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XRevan86https://redd.it/d1ttzpSep 13 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Oracle is going after companies using Virtualbox Extension Pack with download logs and their office IP. Oracle copying the old Torrenting lawsuits for its free for home user licenses that exclude businesses. : sysadminSep 13 00:57
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XRevan86> I keep seeing postgres... Tbh... 6 years ago, postgres was dated and no one used it. What happened? Does postgres support PL/sql?Sep 13 01:01
XRevan866 years ago I chose postgres for my VPS with email and XMPPSep 13 01:01
XRevan86Coincidence? I think not!Sep 13 01:01
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XRevan86(that the rise of postgres coincided with me using it :))Sep 13 01:02
XRevan86To be serious, a big contribution is probably Sun MySQL becoming Oracle MySQL. Not to say anything bad about MariaDB, just that this is a likely factor.Sep 13 01:08
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XRevan86And then there are SQL compatibility issues, lack of partial indices, that it's impossible to index more than 3072 bytes in a row (with the new file format, it used to be 764 bytes)…Sep 13 01:14
XRevan86Not that PostgreSQL doesn't have its fair share of disadvantages: forking for each connection, full migration with each upgrade, lack of modular storage enginesSep 13 01:23
XRevan863072 is quite a lot, really. But this restriction has a consequence: a symbol in utf8 can take an unknown amount of octets.Sep 13 01:37
XRevan86So we have stuff like utf8mb3 and utf8mb4 and manual migration.Sep 13 01:37
XRevan86And the old restriction of 764 will haunt for quite a while, because the old row format Compact is still totally useable.Sep 13 01:39
XRevan86As a result, a hardcoded size for indexable strings: varchar(191)Sep 13 01:52
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schestowitzlurk twiceSep 13 04:25
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schestowitzannnd.. it's goneSep 13 04:25
DaemonFC[m]Almost everything Oracle gets ahold of needs to be forked.Sep 13 04:39
DaemonFC[m]They're not an open source company.Sep 13 04:39
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schestowitzsystemd filling up /tmp more quickly than before, likely due to volume, so now flushed twice per week on TRSep 13 05:04
schestowitzcrontab: installing new crontabSep 13 05:04
schestowitz5 06 * * 1,4 /root/clear-archive.shSep 13 05:04
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MinceR13 020111 <+XRevan86> > I keep seeing postgres... Tbh... 6 years ago, postgres was dated and no one used it. What happened? Does postgres support PL/sql?Sep 13 07:34
MinceRmaybe people realized that mysql is shitSep 13 07:34
MinceRyou don't need modular storage engines if you have one good storage engine :>Sep 13 07:34
XRevan86MinceR: Well, there are different applications, like for MyRocks:  ssh root@loadaverage.org -p10022 -t Sep 13 07:35
XRevan86oopsSep 13 07:35
XRevan86https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/myrocksSep 13 07:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MyRocks - MariaDB Knowledge BaseSep 13 07:36
XRevan86now that's an unfortunate thing to paste somewhere %)Sep 13 07:36
XRevan86but not too muchSep 13 07:36
MinceR:)Sep 13 07:37
schestowitzMyRocks... LOLSep 13 07:38
schestowitzAlmost as bad as Micro-SoftSep 13 07:38
MinceR:>Sep 13 07:38
XRevan86It's My + RocksDB, apparently.Sep 13 07:38
schestowitzMyRocks sucks dickSep 13 07:38
XRevan86MySQL, MyISAM, that sort of thing.Sep 13 07:38
schestowitzBadly namedSep 13 07:39
XRevan86schestowitz: For a moment there I thought you actually tried it…Sep 13 07:39
schestowitznopeSep 13 07:40
schestowitz[07:36] <XRevan86> now that's an unfortunate thing to paste somewhere %)Sep 13 07:41
schestowitzThat's why I though along the lines of urban languageSep 13 07:41
schestowitzwhat happens when MyRocks is getting down(time)?Sep 13 07:41
XRevan86schestowitz: You mean, is it durable?Sep 13 07:42
schestowitzif it can be remountedSep 13 07:43
schestowitza whole CLUSTER of 'emSep 13 07:43
schestowitzthere's a cluster of MyRocks in the sperm banksSep 13 07:43
XRevan86I haven't actually tried it, I only provided it as an example of what benefits having different storage engines can have compared to having only one generic one.Sep 13 07:44
schestowitzI think we use innodbSep 13 07:44
*XRevan86 is starting to suspect he's missing a pun here %).Sep 13 07:45
XRevan86schestowitz: Makes sense. InnoDB is good enough for 99% of cases.Sep 13 07:45
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rocks#Noun okay, now I get itSep 13 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | rocks - WiktionarySep 13 07:47
*XRevan86 didn't know about this slang at all.Sep 13 07:50
XRevan86neither of those three meaningsSep 13 07:50
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/LSXunUF.jpgSep 13 07:50
XRevan86MinceR: "l" got dropped? So cockneySep 13 07:51
MinceRyeah   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHCII-G_aNMSep 13 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Cocaine - YouTubeSep 13 07:51
XRevan86MinceR: There's definitely an L thereSep 13 07:52
XRevan86L and W can sound similiar in closed positions, so the brain can adjust to W.Sep 13 07:54
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFoWTBZAGMESep 13 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Michael Caine talks about how his name can be misheard - The Graham Norton Show 2017: Preview - YouTubeSep 13 07:54
XRevan86speech comprehension is fuzzy after allSep 13 07:54
schestowitz> The role of Saudi Arabia continues to be edited out of the 9/11 history.Sep 13 07:56
schestowitzIt's not like Bush is  connected to the mastermind's family :-)Sep 13 07:56
XRevan86MinceR: that's a good story :DSep 13 07:57
schestowitzI didn't know...Sep 13 07:58
XRevan86"L and W can sound similiar in closed positions, so the brain can adjust to W." – but if a person speaks with a row/roll merger, then that's not necessary. Like the Cockney accent.Sep 13 07:59
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schestowitz>>>> Over the past two days I've mentioned thrice in comments and posts thatSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>>> CentOS 8 not arriving (maybe IBM's fault) is a warning sign.Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> It's possible but I'm way too far removed from CentOS and Fedora to evenSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> get a hint of what's actually going on.  The strange delay of CentOS 8Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> is getting noticed a bit.  My suggestion would be to try Devuan 2 ifSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> CentOS 8 is not ready by December.  FreeBSD and Ubuntu both also haveSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> very long support cycles.  But the former is to radical a change and theSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> latter I do not trust any more, M$ seems to have almost finished doingSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>>> them in.Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz>> Maybe they will buy them at the end. Maybe HP will. Maybe VMware. OrSep 13 08:45
schestowitz>> Amazon...Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz> M$ has set computing back more than 40 years now by all the damage theySep 13 08:45
schestowitz> have done and continue to do.Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz> Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz> Whichever company buys Canonical won't matter much, none will help it doSep 13 08:45
schestowitz> well.  However the weak state in which it has fallen into has beenSep 13 08:45
schestowitz> caused by microsofters on the inside as a result of several bad calls inSep 13 08:45
schestowitz> hiring 10 years ago by top Canonical staff including Mark.Sep 13 08:45
schestowitz10 years ago we had 3-D on the desktop?Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzNow?Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzNothing.Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzStagnant. Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzWe have 'apps'Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzWe have 'snaps'Sep 13 08:45
schestowitzYuck.Sep 13 08:45
XRevan86IIRC, with CentOS 7 the same thing happened.Sep 13 08:45
XRevan86except it was independent back thenSep 13 08:46
MinceR(audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/31/09b779e165ae1a17.mp4Sep 13 08:46
schestowitzhopefully not a prototype of a real thingSep 13 08:50
XRevan86https://wiki.debian.org/LTSSep 13 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | LTS - Debian WikiSep 13 08:50
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XRevan86https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended oh my goodnessSep 13 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | LTS/Extended - Debian WikiSep 13 09:15
XRevan86there's a third-party repo for Debian Wheezy that still pushes updatesSep 13 09:15
XRevan86that's some impressive necromancySep 13 09:16
XRevan86Which means that Wheezy has been supported in one way or another for 6 years now.Sep 13 09:17
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schestowitzhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-authenticator-on-android-gets-cloud-backup-and-recovery/  Sep 13 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Authenticator on Android gets cloud backup and recovery | ZDNetSep 13 09:41
schestowitzlolSep 13 09:41
schestowitzspyingSep 13 09:41
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cubexyzthe 3d desktop was slower thoughSep 13 18:41
cubexyzinteresting idea but it was unnecessarily complexSep 13 18:42
r_schestowitzyeah,. parts of it remainedSep 13 18:47
r_schestowitzthe practical onesSep 13 18:47
cubexyzthere was that linux port of fsnSep 13 18:51
cubexyzI think it was called fsvSep 13 18:51
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MinceRmost of what remained isn't practicalSep 13 18:59
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r_schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lucasces/status/1172566553923072001Sep 13 19:47
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