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XRevan86 | https://redd.it/d1ttzp | Sep 13 00:57 |
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Oracle is going after companies using Virtualbox Extension Pack with download logs and their office IP. Oracle copying the old Torrenting lawsuits for its free for home user licenses that exclude businesses. : sysadmin | Sep 13 00:57 | |
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XRevan86 | > I keep seeing postgres... Tbh... 6 years ago, postgres was dated and no one used it. What happened? Does postgres support PL/sql? | Sep 13 01:01 |
XRevan86 | 6 years ago I chose postgres for my VPS with email and XMPP | Sep 13 01:01 |
XRevan86 | Coincidence? I think not! | Sep 13 01:01 |
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XRevan86 | (that the rise of postgres coincided with me using it :)) | Sep 13 01:02 |
XRevan86 | To be serious, a big contribution is probably Sun MySQL becoming Oracle MySQL. Not to say anything bad about MariaDB, just that this is a likely factor. | Sep 13 01:08 |
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XRevan86 | And then there are SQL compatibility issues, lack of partial indices, that it's impossible to index more than 3072 bytes in a row (with the new file format, it used to be 764 bytes)… | Sep 13 01:14 |
XRevan86 | Not that PostgreSQL doesn't have its fair share of disadvantages: forking for each connection, full migration with each upgrade, lack of modular storage engines | Sep 13 01:23 |
XRevan86 | 3072 is quite a lot, really. But this restriction has a consequence: a symbol in utf8 can take an unknown amount of octets. | Sep 13 01:37 |
XRevan86 | So we have stuff like utf8mb3 and utf8mb4 and manual migration. | Sep 13 01:37 |
XRevan86 | And the old restriction of 764 will haunt for quite a while, because the old row format Compact is still totally useable. | Sep 13 01:39 |
XRevan86 | As a result, a hardcoded size for indexable strings: varchar(191) | Sep 13 01:52 |
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schestowitz | lurk twice | Sep 13 04:25 |
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schestowitz | annnd.. it's gone | Sep 13 04:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Almost everything Oracle gets ahold of needs to be forked. | Sep 13 04:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're not an open source company. | Sep 13 04:39 |
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schestowitz | systemd filling up /tmp more quickly than before, likely due to volume, so now flushed twice per week on TR | Sep 13 05:04 |
schestowitz | crontab: installing new crontab | Sep 13 05:04 |
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MinceR | 13 020111 <+XRevan86> > I keep seeing postgres... Tbh... 6 years ago, postgres was dated and no one used it. What happened? Does postgres support PL/sql? | Sep 13 07:34 |
MinceR | maybe people realized that mysql is shit | Sep 13 07:34 |
MinceR | you don't need modular storage engines if you have one good storage engine :> | Sep 13 07:34 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, there are different applications, like for MyRocks: ssh root@loadaverage.org -p10022 -t | Sep 13 07:35 |
XRevan86 | oops | Sep 13 07:35 |
XRevan86 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/myrocks | Sep 13 07:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MyRocks - MariaDB Knowledge Base | Sep 13 07:36 | |
XRevan86 | now that's an unfortunate thing to paste somewhere %) | Sep 13 07:36 |
XRevan86 | but not too much | Sep 13 07:36 |
MinceR | :) | Sep 13 07:37 |
schestowitz | MyRocks... LOL | Sep 13 07:38 |
schestowitz | Almost as bad as Micro-Soft | Sep 13 07:38 |
MinceR | :> | Sep 13 07:38 |
XRevan86 | It's My + RocksDB, apparently. | Sep 13 07:38 |
schestowitz | MyRocks sucks dick | Sep 13 07:38 |
XRevan86 | MySQL, MyISAM, that sort of thing. | Sep 13 07:38 |
schestowitz | Badly named | Sep 13 07:39 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: For a moment there I thought you actually tried it… | Sep 13 07:39 |
schestowitz | nope | Sep 13 07:40 |
schestowitz | [07:36] <XRevan86> now that's an unfortunate thing to paste somewhere %) | Sep 13 07:41 |
schestowitz | That's why I though along the lines of urban language | Sep 13 07:41 |
schestowitz | what happens when MyRocks is getting down(time)? | Sep 13 07:41 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: You mean, is it durable? | Sep 13 07:42 |
schestowitz | if it can be remounted | Sep 13 07:43 |
schestowitz | a whole CLUSTER of 'em | Sep 13 07:43 |
schestowitz | there's a cluster of MyRocks in the sperm banks | Sep 13 07:43 |
XRevan86 | I haven't actually tried it, I only provided it as an example of what benefits having different storage engines can have compared to having only one generic one. | Sep 13 07:44 |
schestowitz | I think we use innodb | Sep 13 07:44 |
*XRevan86 is starting to suspect he's missing a pun here %). | Sep 13 07:45 | |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Makes sense. InnoDB is good enough for 99% of cases. | Sep 13 07:45 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rocks#Noun okay, now I get it | Sep 13 07:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | rocks - Wiktionary | Sep 13 07:47 | |
*XRevan86 didn't know about this slang at all. | Sep 13 07:50 | |
XRevan86 | neither of those three meanings | Sep 13 07:50 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/LSXunUF.jpg | Sep 13 07:50 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: "l" got dropped? So cockney | Sep 13 07:51 |
MinceR | yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHCII-G_aNM | Sep 13 07:51 |
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XRevan86 | MinceR: There's definitely an L there | Sep 13 07:52 |
XRevan86 | L and W can sound similiar in closed positions, so the brain can adjust to W. | Sep 13 07:54 |
MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFoWTBZAGME | Sep 13 07:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Michael Caine talks about how his name can be misheard - The Graham Norton Show 2017: Preview - YouTube | Sep 13 07:54 | |
XRevan86 | speech comprehension is fuzzy after all | Sep 13 07:54 |
schestowitz | > The role of Saudi Arabia continues to be edited out of the 9/11 history. | Sep 13 07:56 |
schestowitz | It's not like Bush is connected to the mastermind's family :-) | Sep 13 07:56 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: that's a good story :D | Sep 13 07:57 |
schestowitz | I didn't know... | Sep 13 07:58 |
XRevan86 | "L and W can sound similiar in closed positions, so the brain can adjust to W." – but if a person speaks with a row/roll merger, then that's not necessary. Like the Cockney accent. | Sep 13 07:59 |
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schestowitz | >>>> Over the past two days I've mentioned thrice in comments and posts that | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>>> CentOS 8 not arriving (maybe IBM's fault) is a warning sign. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> It's possible but I'm way too far removed from CentOS and Fedora to even | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> get a hint of what's actually going on. The strange delay of CentOS 8 | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> is getting noticed a bit. My suggestion would be to try Devuan 2 if | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> CentOS 8 is not ready by December. FreeBSD and Ubuntu both also have | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> very long support cycles. But the former is to radical a change and the | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> latter I do not trust any more, M$ seems to have almost finished doing | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >>> them in. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >> Maybe they will buy them at the end. Maybe HP will. Maybe VMware. Or | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | >> Amazon... | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > M$ has set computing back more than 40 years now by all the damage they | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > have done and continue to do. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > Whichever company buys Canonical won't matter much, none will help it do | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > well. However the weak state in which it has fallen into has been | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > caused by microsofters on the inside as a result of several bad calls in | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | > hiring 10 years ago by top Canonical staff including Mark. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | 10 years ago we had 3-D on the desktop? | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | Now? | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | Nothing. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | Stagnant. | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | We have 'apps' | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | We have 'snaps' | Sep 13 08:45 |
schestowitz | Yuck. | Sep 13 08:45 |
XRevan86 | IIRC, with CentOS 7 the same thing happened. | Sep 13 08:45 |
XRevan86 | except it was independent back then | Sep 13 08:46 |
MinceR | (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/31/09b779e165ae1a17.mp4 | Sep 13 08:46 |
schestowitz | hopefully not a prototype of a real thing | Sep 13 08:50 |
XRevan86 | https://wiki.debian.org/LTS | Sep 13 08:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | LTS - Debian Wiki | Sep 13 08:50 | |
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XRevan86 | https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended oh my goodness | Sep 13 09:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | LTS/Extended - Debian Wiki | Sep 13 09:15 | |
XRevan86 | there's a third-party repo for Debian Wheezy that still pushes updates | Sep 13 09:15 |
XRevan86 | that's some impressive necromancy | Sep 13 09:16 |
XRevan86 | Which means that Wheezy has been supported in one way or another for 6 years now. | Sep 13 09:17 |
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schestowitz | https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-authenticator-on-android-gets-cloud-backup-and-recovery/ | Sep 13 09:41 |
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schestowitz | lol | Sep 13 09:41 |
schestowitz | spying | Sep 13 09:41 |
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cubexyz | the 3d desktop was slower though | Sep 13 18:41 |
cubexyz | interesting idea but it was unnecessarily complex | Sep 13 18:42 |
r_schestowitz | yeah,. parts of it remained | Sep 13 18:47 |
r_schestowitz | the practical ones | Sep 13 18:47 |
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cubexyz | I think it was called fsv | Sep 13 18:51 |
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MinceR | most of what remained isn't practical | Sep 13 18:59 |
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