●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 14, 2022 ●● ● Apr 14 [00:03] matey no if anything it probably encouraged them [00:07] bnchs__ yeah it did encourage them [00:08] bnchs__ i mean even before the stream began, there was a 4chan thread about it [00:09] matey any highlights? [00:09] matey or just stuff thats easy to imagine/guess [00:10] bnchs__ " >CC BY-ND [00:10] bnchs__ What did he mean by this? [00:10] bnchs__ >USE GPL but OH NO you cant make derivative versions of my voice recordings fuck you" [00:11] matey yeah [00:11] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-73.jpg [00:11] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-73.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-73.jpg [00:11] matey well that is nearly the dumbest thing about the fsf [00:12] matey though i have to say, not standing to up systemd and letting github take over the free software world [00:12] bnchs__ "I wasn't even being political and still randomly got banned, probably because my name had "fren" in it. Glad to see that IRC jannies haven't changed. " [00:12] matey might put at third, even if its the reason i stopped giving them money [00:13] matey lol "fren"? [00:13] bnchs__ "QUESTION: should Free Software be licensed as Public Domain instead of GPL so that Black People are not stigmatized with stealing it? " [00:13] bnchs__ this was in the chat history aswell [00:13] matey classy [00:14] matey i think ive heard that one before [00:14] bnchs__ yes, someone posted it in the 4chan thread [00:14] matey do you get "fren" reference? its not one i know [00:14] bnchs__ before posting it in #fsf [00:15] bnchs__ matey: "fren" is like a corruption of "friend" [00:15] matey sure but [00:15] matey ..? [00:15] matey its part of some terrible meme? [00:15] bnchs__ no [00:15] matey okay [00:16] matey lieberans are weird [00:16] matey actually lieber still means free [00:16] matey so lie-berans [00:16] matey or life, my german is sheisse [00:16] MinceR lieberman is an enemy of freedom, though [00:16] matey mincer: very true [00:17] matey him and his kill switch [00:17] bnchs__ "The minetest shilling was nice. Our kids should be playing open source autism simulators. " [00:18] matey i dont know if i can get offended by 4chan talking shit about autism [00:18] matey theyre basically making fun of themselves at that point [00:18] MinceR and his clueless attacks on videogames [00:18] matey he backpedals on this talk about videogames when someone actually asks him about videogames [00:19] bnchs__ " great job /g/ you fucked the irc with your nigger bullshit " [00:19] matey like its something you talk shit about by default but when pressed, you have to be diplomatic [00:19] MinceR :> [00:20] matey too bad he cant shit about github instead! [00:20] matey piss of github users? NO NO NO [00:20] matey take a swipe at gamers? check [00:20] MinceR MICROS~1 is probably one of his donors [00:20] matey i kinda doubt it [00:20] bnchs__ "He used to be even more extreme. Now he's softened his opinions because he was threatened with getting his funding cut. [00:20] bnchs__ Also lurk moar. " [00:20] matey but i feel so cynical, i cant doubt it strongly [00:21] matey He used to be even more extreme. Now he's softened his opinions because he was threatened with getting his funding cut. <- right? [00:21] matey thats not the only reason [00:21] matey he was also attacked by a 3000-strong mob [00:21] matey for weeks/months/years [00:21] bnchs__ "Stallman talks are peak autism, but they are really fun to attend to. If you have never been to one I recommend going, it attracts weird people. " [00:21] matey but its cool, because now we can give them fucking awards [00:22] matey it attracts weird people. <- it used to [00:23] bnchs__ "Goddamn, I respect RMS so much. Are there even any other passionate free software advocates like him? Even many Linux users are mocking him that he's too "strict". I can't even think of the vacuum that will be here after he dies. " [00:23] matey its gonna be so many opportunists [00:23] matey even if someone okay gets in in his place [00:24] matey theyll be out in 6 months [00:24] matey maybe THEY will accept an invitation to something that still stands for freedom [00:24] matey because rms isnt going to [00:25] matey maybe he will live to be 90 though [00:25] bnchs__ ">muh librebooted old ass thinkpads >muh apple walled garden this jew is basically reciting /g/ threads " [00:25] MinceR why waste your attention on imageboards though [00:26] bnchs__ i went on /g/ only this day [00:26] matey heres a chance for leah to run circles around libreboot and show the idea works [00:27] matey lets see what happens [00:27] bnchs__ just to see if there was a thread [00:27] bnchs__ and trolls planning [00:27] matey because libreboot isnt making new machines libre [00:27] matey if osboot can free anything, thats a proof of concept [00:27] matey i mean in the sense of moving something from free-ish to libreboot-free [00:36] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:41] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/Z61q5tV.mp4 [00:41] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Z61q5tV.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/Z61q5tV.mp4 [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 344.46 ● Apr 14 [01:02] matey i think its safe to say now [01:02] matey nothing more is really going to come out of the fsf [01:03] matey "if we had more people" yeah, well, the fsf wants fewer people [01:03] matey no one outspoken [01:03] matey we arent going to get honesty out of lieplanet [01:03] matey we arent going to get strategy because you need (paying) members for that! [01:05] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:05] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [01:05] matey but we will get (copyleft) free culture licenses violated because not being able to remix a speech is more important than the wishes for an artist for you to respect freedom [01:05] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [01:05] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [01:06] matey so if you want libre planet to be libre, wait a few weeks and then do your own libreplanet [01:06] matey and if you want the fsf to fight for your freedom, do your own thing because the fsf... whatever [01:07] matey maybe if enough people do their own thing, eventually they will find a way to organise [01:07] matey which is probably better than waiting another 7 years for the fsf to [01:08] matey fortunately techrights isnt fsf or we would have to follow the safe coc too [01:13] matey /me watches roys version for shits and giggle [01:14] matey why is roy and everything around him white [01:15] matey i mean allow [01:15] activelow the rms talk isn't uploaded yet... [01:16] matey it is [01:16] activelow where? [01:16] matey well, roys copy [01:16] matey ill link [01:16] matey http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/ http://techrights.org/videos/rms-libreplanet-2022.webm [01:16] TR Bot Video of Richard Stallmans Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights [01:16] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [01:16] matey page and video [01:17] matey ive already watched it but this one is loaded with swastikas and racial slurs :) [01:17] bnchs__ thanks 4chan [01:19] bnchs__ why is roy's webcam B&W [01:19] matey probably so it works in gemini [01:19] matey /me cant even guess [01:20] matey roy is VERY VERY VERY allow [01:20] matey at least the sound is good [01:20] bnchs__ lol the stream lag [01:20] bnchs__ in roy's video [01:20] activelow didn't watch videos for month [01:23] MinceR i don't think gemini cares about the details of a video stream [01:23] MinceR it's just a resource that you might be able to download, though you probably don't want to use the gemini protocol for that [01:23] MinceR iirc it can't even resume [01:25] matey i don't think gemini cares about the details of a video stream <- nah i was just joking about oldschool vs b&w [01:26] matey im actually a huge fan of gemini and id be happy if 90% of the web switched to it instead [01:26] matey maybe ore [01:26] matey more [01:29] bnchs__ i wish rms could talk again [01:30] bnchs__ it didn't even last 2 hours [01:30] bnchs__ just 1 hour and 30 mins [01:30] bnchs__ or something [01:30] matey so the talk was an hour [01:30] matey then q&a went on about as long [01:30] bnchs__ they probably had to pack fast, because the trolls were ramping [01:30] matey but the video roy posted is preable / waiting for the video to start [01:31] matey plus he stopped at a&a [01:31] matey i dont really have a problem with this, ive seen the whole thing and im watching it a 3rd time because im very bored [01:32] matey it was this or random youtube shit [01:32] matey ive been busy this week so i dont feel bad [01:32] matey mincer "come get cancelled with us" :) [01:32] bnchs__ also there were tons of references to chuck's feed and seed in #fsf [01:32] bnchs__ usernames and shit [01:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:33] bnchs__ get it because sneed's feed and seed, formeraly chuck [01:33] bnchs__ chuck's fuck and suck [01:33] matey thats an old joke [01:33] matey i think pump up the volume had a guy named "charles u. farley" [01:34] matey "chuck you farley" [01:36] matey this is literally the first time ive seen rms live in any context [01:36] matey while hes actually streaming [01:36] matey and yes, i DID see the two seconds of video where it was actually video [01:37] matey roy was rdosed by rsync [01:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ee9db89a5um3y.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 70.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 401.88 ● Apr 14 [02:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [02:20] bnchs__ gn [02:20] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [02:23] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:35] activelow https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html [02:35] activelow --- "END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS" --- [02:36] activelow end then next, a clause, which is _not_ contained in the license itself: "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs" [02:37] activelow however, this restriction (to prevent linking non-free by whatever defintion) is _not_ mentioned within the GPL2 license terms itself. [02:37] matey end then next, a clause <- thats not a clause, its an explanation [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-130422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-130422.txt [02:41] activelow if i modify any GPL2 licensed library, then without doubt GPL2 applies with copyleft etc,; yet when linking against GPL2 library (without modification to any such GPL2 library or it's header), the license terms are _undefined_ [02:42] matey 2. b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. [02:42] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-13.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-13.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:42] matey linking is considered a derivative. [02:42] matey if all you have to do for it NOT to be a derivative is shove it in a separate file, what good is that? [02:42] activelow 2. b) contradicts "author's rights", which is the author decides upon the license terms of his _own_ work [02:43] matey the author doesnt have a right to determin the license of OTHER works [02:43] activelow and next, linking is an _insufficient_ criteria to decide wether any program is a derivative work or not [02:44] matey if its not sufficient, then there is a giant loophole that makes the license pointless. [02:44] matey as far as authors rights, the author has a right to choose gpl if they want to use the gpl work in their software. [02:44] matey or create a derivative. [02:45] matey they also have a right to not choose gpl, and not have access to the gpl work, [02:45] matey but they dont have the right to relicense the gpl work (and thats also because authors rights includes the rights to choose gpl) [02:45] activelow again, this misses the question if _linking_ suffices to define "derivative work", which it doesn't; linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is insufficient [02:46] matey again, this misses the question if _linking_ suffices to define "derivative work", which it doesn't; linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is insufficient <- so if you choose a license... [02:46] activelow linking against a library does _not_ relicense such library [02:46] matey but it violates the license of that library [02:47] matey which says what terms the library can be used under [02:47] activelow no, a license does _not_ define what a derivative work is, in particular GPL2 which does not explicitey forbid linking proprietary, it simply doesn't [02:47] matey a license does _not_ define what a derivative work is <- but linking is derivative regardless [02:47] matey which does not explicitey forbid linking proprietary <- it forbids non-free derivatives [02:48] activelow which opens a gigantic loophole, for both, undesirable linking, or undesirable sanctioning of it [02:49] activelow and wrong again, it forbids non-free derivatives for a library itself, which is clearly stated within the license, yet it does not explicitely forbid linking into proprietary [02:49] activelow and linking is not a sufficient criteria to define a derivative work [02:50] activelow the loophole being, if the definition of a derivative work was strict, any GPL program couldn't be run on any IBM MS Wintel system (typically compilers/libc add proprietary stuff to achieve this) [02:50] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:51] activelow --- "END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS" --- [02:52] activelow and anything blow this line is not part of the GPL2, including statement such as "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs" [02:52] activelow if this is an explanation, then it could be contained _within_ the GPL2 license terms, yet it isn't. [02:53] activelow *below [02:54] matey the license states what youre able to do [02:54] matey the explaination just makes it easier for people to understand [02:54] matey the other thing that matters is what happens when these things go to court [02:54] matey that cant be included in the license itself [02:54] matey but it affects our understanding of how the license works [02:54] activelow the cornerstone of proof seems to be, GPL2 programs being available for ms windows, which they can't be, without linking into proprietary stuff [02:55] matey if the program is separate, its not derivative [02:55] matey if its linked, its not separate [02:55] matey using gpl software on windows is okay [02:55] matey linking works in two directions [02:55] matey a gpl program can link to the winapi [02:55] activelow "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"; well, it does _not_ forbid it. doesn't it? [02:56] matey the winapi cannot link to a gpl program [02:56] activelow and this "explanation" isn't at least part of the license text itself, to repeat myself [02:56] matey "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs"; well, it does _not_ forbid it. doesn't it? <- same thing in lawyerese. [02:56] matey does not permit = it is not permitted = it is forbidden [02:56] matey remember the default is ALL RIGHTS RESERVED [02:57] matey A R R + does not permit = it is not permitted [02:57] activelow the license terms neither explictely forbid nor permit it [02:58] *psydroid has quit (*.net *.split) [02:58] MinceR if the GPLv2 was written correctly, from its actual terms it already follows that it forbids incorporating the covered program into a proprietary program [02:58] *psydroid (~psydroid@freenode/user/psydroid) has joined #techrights [02:58] MinceR that line is only supposed to explain this to non-jurists [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 333.08 [02:59] activelow the "explanation" is irelevant, because it isn't contained within the license text added to source files [02:59] MinceR indeed [02:59] activelow and the license terms are only clarified upon of what's recognized as a "derivative work"; yet linking into non-free does not suffice as a criteria for a "derivative work" [02:59] MinceR also, afaik they don't give a legal definition for what "proprietary" is anyway ● Apr 14 [03:00] MinceR afaik linking is considered to produce a derivative work, bit IANAL [03:01] activelow imagine this, if i wanted to publish (and only then copyleft enforcement is relevant, simply modifying some source text on my local pc does not enforce copyleft, even whem GPL2 implies differently) [03:01] activelow yet, if i published, i couldn't at least be certain, copyleft remained intact if any of my lib was linked into proprietary, for both technical and legal reasons [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 163551 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40156 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 4 days ago [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. 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[03:13] DaemonFC I decided I couldn't afford another "free" car from mom. [03:14] activelow and if it isn't libc, there is dozens of other headers included, almost certain [03:14] activelow is linking against libc a derivative work, or isn't it? who is a derivative of whom then? [03:18] *alextee has quit (connection closed) [03:19] activelow long story short, linking is a necessary criteria, yet it is _insufficient_; and lgpl2 doesn't address this issue either, to explicitely _forbid_ (not permit) linking with a clear definition this sufficiently defined a derivative work [03:22] activelow if this "explanation" was contained within the license therms, i would feel comfortable with regards to clarity of license terms: "General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs" [03:22] activelow nonetheless, the gpl2 does _not_ contain it [03:22] mjg59_ activelow: That's what the system library exception is for [03:22] mjg59_ It lets you distribute GPLed code for proprietary operating systems [03:23] mjg59_ "However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) wiith the major components (compiler, kernel and so on) of the operating system" [03:24] mjg59_ So there's no conflict in the FSF's assertion about derivation here [03:24] activelow the uncertainty of GPL2 (3?) cannot be removed, as soon as any such piece of GPL software is touched, which is the critical aspect of GPL [03:25] *mimorek has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:25] activelow i do _not_ want any program of mine being available to MS/IBM Wintel [03:26] activelow the only options FSF offers then is: touch none of GPL/LGPL [03:27] mjg59_ When you say that, do you object to the platform on principle or do you object because they're non-free? [03:28] activelow technical qualities of the platform, legal issues, and US politics [03:28] mjg59_ Ok, that sounds like a violation of freedom 0 [03:29] activelow the presence of GPL inside MS/IBM Wintel realm itself is a violation of the license ("incorporation") [03:30] mjg59_ No it isn't [03:32] activelow the advertising clause of BSD was neat, since BSD license must be "advertised", yet advertising requires the permission of the author; and this at least is compatible with "author's rights" [03:33] mjg59_ You're getting very close to a Joerg Schilling interpretation of the GPL, and that did not end well [03:48] activelow i think, the GPL2 (3?) copyleft are _weaker_ than i expected [03:49] activelow GPL2 copyleft in the hands of some free developer are practically ineffective often, given the fact how often documentation of sources are missing, to support some hardware etc. [03:50] activelow and since corporations control alot of what's GPL, it is those corporations who can enforce [03:51] activelow "communities" [03:52] mjg59_ Anyone who contributes to a GPLed project is in a position to enforce, as long as there's no CLA required [03:53] activelow ^ enforce GPL on ones _own_ contribution derivatives, i cannot sue IBM to release BIOS source codes, verilog for x86 (not that i wanted any of this crap on my desk) [03:54] mjg59_ No, because they're not derivatives of any GPLed code [03:54] activelow sure [03:56] mjg59_ GPL was never intended to make proprietary software disappear, and it's not in a position to [03:56] mjg59_ It was intended to ensure that everyone who received a GPLed work had the right to modify it as needed [03:56] mjg59_ And to share those modifications as needed [03:57] activelow which is moot, at a lower level realm of computing [03:57] activelow controlled by, corporations, pentagon, USA, whoever [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 346.28 ● Apr 14 [04:00] activelow that's why, the misnomer of "free software" is perpetuated, intentionally or not, since it is a comfortable arrangement, to imply this is where GPL2 ended, no copyleft enforcement anymore down there [04:01] activelow instead, the _USA_ 1984 semiconductor protection act, as one example [04:10] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [04:11] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:30] *matey has quit (connection closed) [04:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [04:44] *AdmFubar has quit (connection closed) [04:46] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [04:47] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [04:49] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 80.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 301.81 [04:59] AdmFubar for non profits https://opensource.com/article/22/4/civicrm-open-source-crm ● Apr 14 [05:03] AdmFubar what a giant crock this is... 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I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [05:13] TR News "I got a bunch of replies with tools I hadnt heard of, so I thought Id make a list here. A lot of people also pointed at the modern-unix list." https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ | Source: Julia Evans [05:13] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/12/a-list-of-new-ish--command-line-tools/ [05:13] TR Bot A list of new(ish) command line tools [05:14] TR News "But I didnt automate that to save time, I automated it to save focus. I need to think to write out my whole address." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/you-can-automate-more-than-you-think/ | Source: Buttondown [05:14] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: buttondown.email | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/you-can-automate-more-than-you-think/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/you-can-automate-more-than-you-think/ [05:14] TR Bot You can automate more than you think Buttondown [05:14] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/emotion-ai-sales-virtual-zoom [05:14] TR Bot software from Uniphore, Sybill and Zoom detects customer emotions - Protocol [05:14] TR News "In the mid-2000s, an upstart Linux distribution became both the most exciting and the most popular version around: Ubuntu." https://www.makeuseof.com/reasons-fedora-is-new-ubuntu/ | Source: Make Use Of [05:14] TR Bot 5 Reasons Why Fedora Feels Like the New Ubuntu [05:16] TR News MX Linus https://www.makeuseof.com/mx-linux-version-211-wildflower-released/ | Source: Make Use Of [05:16] TR Bot MX Linux Casually Drops Version 21.1, Codenamed "Wildflower" [05:17] TR News "Much of this is obvious; the bit that may not be is that 'focal' is the code name for Ubuntu 20.04." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/AptSourcesManglingEffects | Source: uni Toronto [05:17] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/AptSourcesManglingEffects https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/AptSourcesManglingEffects [05:17] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/AptSourcesManglingEffects [05:18] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [05:18] TR News "I reluctantly connected an ESP32 to a breadboard and wired the SPI flash IC to the ESP's hardware SPI peripheral." https://tbspace.de/esp32biosrecovery.html | Source: Tobias Mdel [05:18] TR Bot tbspace - In a pinch: Flashing a PC BIOS with an ESP32 [05:18] TR News "Were going to make a USB keyboard you can use to enter text quickly and unobtrusively, even in the dark." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/make-a-chord-keyboard-with-raspberry-pi-pico-and-circuitpython/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [05:18] TR Bot Make a chord keyboard with Raspberry Pi Pico and CircuitPython - Raspberry Pi [05:22] AdmFubar https://www.salon.com/2022/04/10/dont-fall-for-this-information-gathering-easter-chocolate-scam/ [05:22] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/10/dont-fall-for-this-information-gathering-easter-chocolate-scam/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/10/dont-fall-for-this-information-gathering-easter-chocolate-scam/ [05:22] TR Bot fall for this information-gathering Easter chocolate scam | Salon.com [05:24] TR News "Ive learned so much from watching other people code." https://earthly.dev/blog/golang-streamers/ | Source: Earthly [05:24] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/golang-streamers/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/golang-streamers/ [05:24] TR Bot Watch People Doing the Thing - Earthly Blog [05:24] TR News "Over a year ago, I left the role of software engineering* behind to become a site reliability engineer* at Honeycomb" https://ferd.ca/errors-are-constructed-not-discovered.html | Source: Fred Herbert [05:24] TR Bot Errors are constructed, not discovered [05:25] TR News "Given a binary tree, a target node and a positive integer K on it, the task is to find the sum of all nodes within distance K from the target node" https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/sum-of-nodes-within-k-distance-from-target/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks [05:25] TR Bot Sum of nodes within K distance from target - GeeksforGeeks [05:25] AdmFubar wounldnt it be better if they fixed the broken and back-doored code??? https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-announces-new-victory-against-organized-botnet-crime [05:25] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-announces-new-victory-against-organized-botnet-crime https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-announces-new-victory-against-organized-botnet-crime [05:25] TR Bot Microsoft announces a new victory against organized botnet crime | Windows Central [05:26] TR News It's been long gone, like fifteen years long gone. Why are you still asking? gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/13.1 [05:26] TR News Just an observation, nothing more gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/13.2 [05:28] TR News "American politics are a complete farce. And unfortunately we are a superpower so this is everyone on the globes problem" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [05:29] TR News Bike vs Bus 1-0 gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-13-bike-vs-bus-1-0.gmi [05:29] schestowitz (Cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D559.jpg [05:29] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D202.jpg [05:30] TR News "both have various issues, one being that many file formats are known by multiple names. MIME is also often overly lengthy, and also names things strangly. for example, the default type for the whole system is "application/octet-stream"." gemini://binarycat.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-04-13_better-filetypes.gmi [05:30] TR News "deep learning algorithm can remove city noise from earthquake monitoring tools, potentially making it easier to pinpoint when and where a tremor occurs." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315982-ai-strips-out-city-noise-to-improve-earthquake-monitoring-systems/ | Source: New Scientist [05:30] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: newscientist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315982-ai-strips-out-city-noise-to-improve-earthquake-monitoring-systems/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315982-ai-strips-out-city-noise-to-improve-earthquake-monitoring-systems/ [05:30] TR Bot Earthquake sensors may be helped by AI that strips out city noise | New Scientist [05:31] TR News "Japans space debris removal company" https://asiatimes.com/2022/04/japan-cosmic-cleanup-firm-is-part-of-space-arms-race/ | Source: Asia Times [05:31] TR Bot Japan cosmic cleanup firm is part of space arms race - Asia Times [05:32] TR News "Lets look at an updated example. You and your team have two weeks to complete a relatively simple bug fix. Realistically, it should only take a few hours" https://www.atlassian.com/blog/productivity/what-is-parkinsons-law | Source: Atlassian [05:32] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: atlassian.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.atlassian.com/blog/productivity/what-is-parkinsons-law https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.atlassian.com/blog/productivity/what-is-parkinsons-law [05:32] TR Bot How to overcome Parkinson's Law [05:32] TR News "How to Use Parkinsons Law to Get More Done in Less" https://www.lifehack.org/articles/featured/how-to-use-parkinsons-law-to-your-advantage.html [05:32] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: lifehack.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lifehack.org/articles/featured/how-to-use-parkinsons-law-to-your-advantage.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.lifehack.org/articles/featured/how-to-use-parkinsons-law-to-your-advantage.html [05:32] TR Bot How to Use Parkinson's Law to Get More Done in Less Time - Lifehack [05:33] TR News "At their best, small non-elite colleges can spur innovative ideas and foster great minds" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/opinion/pressure-pass-mediocre-students-forced-me-out-academia | Source: Times Higher Education [05:33] TR Bot When I had to pass mediocre students, I quit | Times Higher Education (THE) [05:35] TR News "This attempted attack involved a wide variety of malware, according to ESET, including the recently discovered CaddyWiper." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/13/23023854/ukraine-russian-cyber-attack-power-company-substation | Source: The Verge [05:35] TR Bot Ukraine says it stopped a Russian cyberattack on its power grid - The Verge [05:35] TR News Windows TCO https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ | Source: The Record [05:35] TR News Windows TCO https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ | Source: The Record [05:35] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: therecord.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ [05:35] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: therecord.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ [05:35] TR Bot Researchers find new malware variant after stopping attack on Ukrainian energy provider - The Record by Recorded Future [05:37] TR News Windows TCO https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ | Source: The Record [05:37] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: therecord.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://therecord.media/researchers-find-new-malware-variant-after-stopping-attack-on-ukrainian-energy-provider/ [05:37] TR News "For some customers, JIRA and some other Atlassian products have been down for an entire week." https://matt-rickard.com/why-so-many-outages/ | Source: Matt Rickard [05:37] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/why-so-many-outages/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/why-so-many-outages/ [05:37] TR Bot Why So Many Outages? [05:37] TR News "(Significantly, Sony previously came up with $250 million for a 2020 round from Epic Games, which was then valued at a comparatively modest $17.3 billion.)" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/04/11/epic-games-sony-group-investment/ | Source: Digital Music News [05:37] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: digitalmusicnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/04/11/epic-games-sony-group-investment/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/04/11/epic-games-sony-group-investment/ [05:37] TR Bot Epic Games Draws $1 Billion Investment From Sony Music Parent [05:37] TR News "Surprisingly, there is very little history available online about the DOS versions of LapLink, and Im not sure when its parallel cable was actually introduced." https://www.cambus.net/file-transfers-via-the-parallel-port-on-dos-using-laplink/ | Source: Frederic Cambus [05:37] TR Bot File transfers via the parallel port on DOS using LapLink | Frederic Cambus [05:39] TR News "holy grail" https://www.theverge.com/23022611/meta-facebook-nazare-ar-glasses-roadmap-2024 | Source: The Verge [05:39] TR Bot Behind Mark Zuckerberg big plans for AR glasses - The Verge [05:40] TR News [Old] "As a concept for integrating cyberwarfare systems, the US Cyber Command created the Joint Cyber Operations Architecture (JCWA) " https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/03/24/the-development-of-warfare-cyberspace-in-the-united-states/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [05:40] TR Bot The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States - Modern Diplomacy [05:40] TR News [Old] "In August 2021 the US Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) awarded to the cybersecurity firm" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/03/29/the-development-of-warfare-cyberspace-in-the-united-states-part-2/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [05:40] TR Bot The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 2 - Modern Diplomacy [05:41] TR News "The US Army Ground Vehicle Systems Center, in collaboration with Texas-based Southwest Research Institute (SwRI), has developed a new Intrusion Detection System (IDS)" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/04/06/the-development-of-warfare-cyberspace-in-the-united-states-part-3/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [05:41] TR Bot The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 3 - Modern Diplomacy [05:41] TR News "NATO is developing new cloud technologies to establish technical standards in the field and ensure interoperability among Member States." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/04/13/the-development-of-warfare-cyberspace-in-the-united-states-part-4/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [05:41] TR Bot The development of warfare cyberspace in the United States, part 4 - Modern Diplomacy [05:43] TR News "there dont seem to be much objective data available that would either support or invalidate these reports besides a BGP-level view of prefixes" https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28546 | Source: SANS [05:43] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [05:43] TR News "In recent weeks, American officials have warned that Russia could try to expand its cyberwarfare perhaps even by disrupting American pipelines and electric grids" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/politics/ukraine-russian-cyberattack.html | Source: New York Times [05:43] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/politics/ukraine-russian-cyberattack.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/politics/ukraine-russian-cyberattack.html [05:43] TR Bot Ukraine Says It Thwarted a Sophisticated Russian Cyberattack on Its Power Grid - The New York Times [05:45] TR News "Following efforts by the US and others to address cryptocurrency standards" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3656729/following-us-moves-uk-looks-to-regulate-crypto-create-government-token.html | Source: Computer World [05:45] TR Bot US moves, UK looks to regulate crypto, create government token | Computerworld [05:45] TR News "Tesla solar panels and Megapack batteries are being deployed in Texas in order to mine bitcoin with 100 per cent renewable energy." https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tesla-bitcoin-mining-solar-power-b2055453.html | Source: The Independent UK [05:45] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tesla-bitcoin-mining-solar-power-b2055453.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tesla-bitcoin-mining-solar-power-b2055453.html [05:45] TR Bot Tesla to power bitcoin mine with solar energy | The Independent [05:50] TR News "His dream home was not owned by a person but by a tech company." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/13/1049227/house-flipping-algorithms-are-coming-to-your-neighborhood/ | Source: MIT Technology Review [05:50] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/13/1049227/house-flipping-algorithms-are-coming-to-your-neighborhood/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/13/1049227/house-flipping-algorithms-are-coming-to-your-neighborhood/ [05:50] TR Bot House-flipping algorithms are coming to your neighborhood despite the losses | MIT Technology Review [05:50] TR News Microsoft https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/13/23023776/activision-blizzard-sexual-harassment-gavin-newsom | Source: The Verge [05:50] TR Bot California governor has been interfering in Activision Blizzard lawsuit - The Verge [05:55] TR News "We worked with our community to submit comments in this proceeding. Well describe the high notes here." https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/04/routing-security-goes-to-washington/ | Source: Internet Society [05:55] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: internetsociety.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/04/routing-security-goes-to-washington/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/04/routing-security-goes-to-washington/ [05:55] TR Bot Routing Security Goes to Washington - Internet Society [05:58] TR News News Guard are Microsoft boosters and censorship company https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/04/13/how-tiktok-is-being-used-as-propaganda-machinery-during-war-time/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [05:58] TR Bot How TikTok is being used as propaganda machinery during war time - Modern Diplomacy [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 332.48 [05:59] TR News "Former Brown University professor and current president of Heterodox Academy John Tomasi is hoping to see that direction change." https://kjzz.org/content/1771899/former-professor-says-too-many-college-students-are-self-censoring | [05:59] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: kjzz.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kjzz.org/content/1771899/former-professor-says-too-many-college-students-are-self-censoring https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://kjzz.org/content/1771899/former-professor-says-too-many-college-students-are-self-censoring [05:59] TR Bot Former professor says too many college students are self-censoring | KJZZ [05:59] TR News "EU co-legislators agreed in principle on a ban on adverts targeting minors and utilising sensitive data, in the DSA." https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/digital-brief-dsa-fourth-trilogue-dma-diverging-views-frances-fine-for-google/ | Source: Euractive [05:59] TR Bot Brief: DSA fourth trilogue, DMA diverging views, Frances fine for Google EURACTIV.com [05:59] TR News "Reforming Section 230 wont help with content moderation on online platforms, observers said Monday" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/reforming-section-230-wont-help-with-content-moderation-panel-hears/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [05:59] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/reforming-section-230-wont-help-with-content-moderation-panel-hears/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/reforming-section-230-wont-help-with-content-moderation-panel-hears/ [05:59] TR Bot Reforming Section 230 Won't Help With Content Moderation, Event Hears : Broadband Breakfast ● Apr 14 [06:06] TR News "because he will get copyright infringement" https://www.sunherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article260245605.html | [06:06] TR News "Lewis was one of more than 50 gig workers killed while driving for companies like Lyft, Uber and DoorDash since 2017, according to a new report" https://text.npr.org/1091068852 | Source: NPR [06:06] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1091068852 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1091068852 [06:08] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:09] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [06:09] TR News LOL. 1%. "The survey of more than 10 million Microsoft devices by Lansweepers PC management software showed 1.44% now run Windows 11, an increase from the 0.52%" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3657628/more-than-half-of-pcs-cant-upgrade-to-windows-11-report.html | Source: Computer World [06:09] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [06:09] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! 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[06:56] leah i only care about the talk because someone asked him about by policy regarding cpu microcode [06:58] leah he alluded to libreboot lol. but i don't think he'd talk about microcode, because the topic of osboot would come up [06:58] leah and according to his email, he's "not against what i'm doing" :P [06:58] leah the man is ahypocrite [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 340.56 [06:59] leah an absolute hypocrite [06:59] SomeH4x0r having a few people represent the entire free software movement is the reason I wanted to sign anti-RMS letter ● Apr 14 [07:00] leah i have better things to do than listen to this talk [07:00] leah i'll go do that now [07:01] leah rms talks about freedom. i do more for freedom than he does, and i have the courage to tell the truth about microcode, about hardware, etc [07:05] *alextee (~alextee@kzh7t76mzn7gu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:11] psydruid are his own and his family's and friends' positions in the hardware world the reason why he has never wanted to discuss hardware freedom? [07:15] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh#Relationship_to_the_Bible [07:15] TR Bot Epic of Gilgamesh - Wikipedia [07:16] matey having a few people represent the entire free software movement is the reason I wanted to sign anti-RMS letter [07:16] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:16] matey ^ there is no need to smear rms to avoid having a few people representing the entire free software movement [07:17] matey the movement is falling apart on its own [07:17] matey all you need to do is grab a piece and do what you will (hopefully something good) with it [07:17] leah "I don't think what you're doing is horrible." [07:18] leah this is from an email on 25 March 2021, written by rms, regarding osboot [07:18] matey rms talks about freedom. i do more for freedom than he does <- that may be true today, but he created the movement you serve [07:18] leah this is why i call rms a hypocrite [07:18] matey ive spent literally years watching the "state of free software" and ive been focused mostly on its future [07:18] leah he's not privately against osboot. but talks shit about it (merely not by name) by talking about microcode stuff [07:19] matey i recognise leah as a likely key figure (one of many) in that future [07:19] matey we need more people doing things like this. [07:19] leah matey: i want to completely smash that world you're dreaming of, because that world has me or someone else as the "supreme leader" [07:19] leah i don't want supreme leaders [07:19] leah i want a collective. a federation [07:19] matey that world has me or someone else as the "supreme leader <- not at all [07:19] leah we've discussed it before, so there's no need for me to repeat it [07:19] matey i want a collective. a federatio <- ive been talking about a federation for years [07:20] leah oh sorry, i misread [07:20] matey in fact ill explain how and why i started talking about a federation [07:20] leah "one of many" is what you actually wrote [07:20] matey i misread <- no worries at all [07:20] leah "many" is the keyword here [07:20] matey originally i intended to "fork" the fsf [07:20] leah don't bother. let it rot [07:20] matey then i wanted to make my fork easier for other people to fork. [07:20] leah the federation will come [07:20] matey yes [07:20] leah it's already here [07:20] leah someone just needs to put a name on it [07:21] leah i've moved the date for launching fedfree to summer of 2022 [07:21] matey then i decided that people had no interest in forking the fsf [07:21] matey well what youre doing does more to fulfill what ive been talking about than it contradicts it [07:21] matey i never imagined that every "node" would be the same [07:22] matey rather that each would have strengths and weaknesses [07:22] matey and that the federation (the whole) would fuse those together-- like the movement itself is intended to (even the original movement) [07:22] matey but since forking an organisation is boring and no fun, i figured there should be a "lighter-weight option" even years ago [07:23] matey and that these satellite mini-orgs, or "labs" instead of forking an entire org, could join together under "umbrella orgs" which were larger and cared about more mundane organisational tasks [07:24] matey of course this is all probably more elaborate than it needs to be [07:24] matey the real point is federation itself. [07:24] matey and you can see other people (like leah) arriving at this on their own, which suggests even more that its a viable idea. [07:25] matey whats really great about the federation, imo, has two parts [07:25] matey first: the movement gains a future [07:25] matey the fsf doesnt seem to have one [07:25] matey second: the movement does not have to sit under a failing, monolithic org. why repeat that mistake? [07:26] matey of course one of the most important things is that this not turn into open source [07:26] matey most of my more elaborate concerns are about avoiding that sort of course [07:26] matey i consider open source to be bait-and-switch. i want real freedon. [07:26] matey freeddom [07:26] matey and maybe a better keyboard. [07:28] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:30] matey the choice of "lab" for nodes is no mistake. we should be doing research on how to further free software [07:30] matey osboot is doing that kind of research [07:31] matey libreboot is failing (as far as i can tell) as a way to get freedom over boot firmware [07:31] matey osboot is a different approach [07:31] leah have you ever considered the true role gnu has had in free software? [07:31] matey if libreboot is sufficient, we probably dont need osboot. if libreboot is failing, the floor needs to be open to ideas [07:32] leah when you actually look at history, you'll find that there is another community which also gained traction in the 80s and 90s, on a completely different origin, but with the same goal [07:32] matey have you ever considered the true role gnu has had in free software? <- i consider it the original flagship of the movement-- but one that has failed [07:32] matey when you actually look at history <- im very interested in that history [07:32] matey but what are you referring to exactly [07:32] leah BSD predates GNU [07:32] activelow GPL2 (3?) copyleft is too weak [07:33] matey activelow just became a contract lawyer tonight [07:33] leah and BSD's origin is literally unix itself [07:33] matey yes [07:33] matey bsd predates gnu [07:33] leah before linux started, gnu was on the fringes [07:33] matey however there were two people who more than any other, pushed for bsd to become free (theres one other factor i should mention and will) [07:34] matey those people were richard stallman and john gilmore [07:34] activelow gpl copyleft wasn't too weak (both legally and technically) in the beginning, to attract various developers; nowadays it is insufficient [07:34] leah and it's only a historical accident that the distros used gnu [07:34] matey there was one other factor in bsd becoming free [07:34] matey and that account is told be kirk mccusick [07:34] leah i think if gnu and linux never started, bsd would have been the thing everyone uses. and i think libre software would be in about the same position its in now [07:34] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:35] matey a lot of companies wanted bsd to be under a license that allowed them to put it on chips on expansion boards [07:35] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:35] matey so these three factors led to a free/open version of bsd [07:35] matey not i almost never say free/open but here i might as well [07:35] matey 1. companies wanted it 2. stallman pushed for it 3. john gilmore pushed for it [07:36] matey the most free version of bsd by far (in policy and reality) is openbsd, unless you count hyperbola (openbsd-based) [07:36] leah what about netbsd and freebsd? [07:37] matey freebsd imo is the least free of these, in ways i can detail [07:37] leah go on then [07:37] matey netbsd is in the middle but includes non-free drivers [07:37] activelow bsd hasn't got any copyleft clause, stating the obvious; and even with gpl widespread corporations molest devs and users [07:37] matey openbsd comes from netbsd but has a much stricter policy about drivers [07:37] matey hyperbola extends that policy to firmware (openbsd has no interest in doing that) [07:38] matey openbsd isnt a movement, its a project. they dont want to do firmware. [07:38] matey their policy reflects this [07:38] matey but they dont tolerate non-free drivers [07:38] matey freebsd has its package management tied into github. policy documents too. [07:39] matey ive heard they have a policy about free drivers, but i didnt spent 10 fucking years migrating from dos and windows just to get all my "free software" from ibm and microsoft again [07:39] matey monopoly has to die [07:39] TR News Canada https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/canadian-govt-latest-to-decide-us-tech-companies-should-be-punished-for-sending-web-traffic-to-canadian-websites/ | Source: Techdirt [07:39] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/canadian-govt-latest-to-decide-us-tech-companies-should-be-punished-for-sending-web-traffic-to-canadian-websites/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/canadian-govt-latest-to-decide-us-tech-companies-should-be-punished-for-sending-web-traffic-to-canadian-websites/ [07:39] TR Bot Govt Latest To Decide US Tech Companies Should Be Punished For Sending Web Traffic To Canadian Websites | Techdirt [07:39] matey so it matters to me how forkable an os is. freedom 3 in reality, not just on paper [07:39] matey openbsd is the most forkable [07:40] matey i think netbsd is probably the second most forkable [07:40] TR News RIPE does it https://labs.ripe.net/author/leo_vegoda/ripe-code-of-conduct-process/ [07:40] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: ripe.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://labs.ripe.net/author/leo_vegoda/ripe-code-of-conduct-process/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://labs.ripe.net/author/leo_vegoda/ripe-code-of-conduct-process/ [07:40] TR Bot RIPE Code of Conduct Process | RIPE Labs [07:40] matey everybody else seems to want a dick sucking contest with microsoft and ibm, im not interested (personally) [07:40] leah i'm actually against what hyperbola is doing with openbsd btw [07:40] leah i'm against fsdg [07:40] activelow ideally, GPL could prohibit the deployment of any individual peace of free software into IBM Wintel realm; at any level beginning inside firmwares and wherever else [07:40] leah i'm also against proprietary firmware [07:40] activelow *piece [07:40] matey i'm against fsdg <- im not a huge fan of fsdg [07:40] leah but i think removing them solves nothing [07:41] leah in fact, i think that does more harm [07:41] matey i understand and respect your position on this [07:41] leah people won't use your libre OS if their hardware doesn't work [07:41] matey note im presently using openbsd anyway [07:41] leah firmware is unfortunately needed [07:41] leah i want that firmware to be there [07:41] leah *firmware* [07:41] leah not drivers [07:41] matey i really liked using trisquel, back when it was less of a joke [07:41] matey because i was SURE it wouldnt work-- and it did! [07:41] matey but, its a complex issue because [07:42] matey if you look around, we are all fucked on the hardware front, unless we want to be owned by intel forever. [07:42] leah wait what? [07:42] matey and amd is no better [07:42] leah in what way is trisquel a joke now? [07:42] schestowitz-TR [21:26] Rubn is founder of the Trisquel GNU/Linux distribution project and other nonprofits. He has contributes to freedom and privacy oriented Web tools, such as GNU IceCat, GNU LibreJS and JShelter. http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/trisquel-founder-on-lazy-eye/ [07:42] TR Bot LibrePlanet 2022 Talk by Rubn Rodrguez Prez, Founder of Trisquel GNU/Linux | Techrights [07:42] leah my opinion about it has changed over the years, but i can't see that the project has changed at all over the years [07:42] leah they seem to still be doing a decent job, technically, on the OS [07:42] matey in what way is trisquel a joke now? <- im sure my rant about trisquel will be the least interesting part of this to you. would you like to save that part for some other time and focus on the rest? [07:43] leah ok [07:43] matey cheers [07:43] matey but what i mean is [07:43] matey abuot the rest [07:43] TR News microsoft windows tco https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/russian-cyberattack-against-ukrainian-power-grid-prevented.html [07:43] TR Bot Cyberattack against Ukrainian Power Grid Prevented - Schneier on Security [07:43] matey if we want to move past being serfs of x86 [07:43] matey a goal that you, myself and my associates share [07:43] matey trisquels approach probably does not serve that goal. [07:43] matey nor does hyperbolas [07:44] leah trisquel does support arm now [07:44] matey and this is because of the fsdg [07:44] matey trisquel does support arm no <- cool [07:44] leah to be clear, i agree with you [07:44] leah i'm merely being factual [07:44] matey i see linux as a dead end [07:44] matey no i think facts are extremely important [07:44] matey and underrated [07:44] matey so is context, and i think you do justice to both [07:45] matey to be clear, i dont idolise you or anything [07:45] matey i admire what youre doing and i think its important [07:45] matey we need more people doing this sort of thing [07:45] *schestowitz-TR does too [07:45] matey youre setting an example [07:46] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:46] schestowitz-TR (re " i admire what youre doing and i think its important") [07:46] matey when we are looking for examples of people who understand the future of free software [07:46] matey we dont have a lot of examples right now. obviously sam zeloof is fucking important too [07:47] matey what sam zeloof is doing right now is such a big fucking deal he could be one of the more important names of the 21st century [07:47] matey like edison or tesla in the 20th [07:48] *ebin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:49] leah yes, his name matters a lot [07:49] leah more people need to know about sam zeloof and the libre silicon project [07:49] matey of course its what hes actually doing that matters [07:49] matey i actually heard about sam zeloof from you and one other person (you first) the same week [07:49] matey it was so close together i said to the other person "wait, did you tell me about him or did i tell you?" [07:49] TR News EU site blocked by javascript, PDFs updated the other day https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/12979-Civil-liability-adapting-liability-rules-to-the-digital-age-and-artificial-intelligence/public-consultation_en [07:50] TR Bot Have your say [07:50] matey they were just as excited as you or i [07:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:50] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] matey i was a kid when i foresaw fpgas. i compare hearing about sam zeloof to the first time i saw a picture of an fpga on the cover of scientific american [07:51] TR News 3-Letter Agencies Now Focus their Attention Inward - to USA Citizens https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/deepstate:81 Source: RobBraxmanTech [07:51] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/deepstate:81 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/deepstate:81 [07:51] TR Bot 3-Letter Agencies Now Focus their Attention Inward - to USA Citizens [07:51] matey i liked eeproms. seemed like a likely candidate for future computing developments. [07:51] matey "of course these will replace floppies" [07:52] matey i realise theyre not exactly the same as nand flash. theyre certainly close enough for me [07:52] leah matey: you probably heard about sam's work from ariadne first [07:52] matey and i honestly dont know exactly how fpgas work, but whats important is they do what i [07:52] leah she promoted it, and then someone else linked it on a mailing list [07:52] leah and then i saw it [07:52] matey no, i did not hear about sams work from ariadne, even if she talks about him constantly (which i havent noticed but i dont follow her closely) [07:53] matey she promoted it <- thats good [07:53] leah actually i'm a bit fuzzy too [07:53] matey the important thing is that everybody understands that homemade cpus are not 20 years off in the future [07:54] matey they need to consider the implications of this for computing and freedom [07:54] leah anyway, the thing to realize about sam's work is that's how things should have been in the 80s [07:54] leah his work is correcting a mistake [07:54] matey agreed [07:54] leah people think of software in a vacuum [07:54] leah but hardware is the first step [07:54] leah the *first* step [07:54] matey yes, thats a mistake [07:54] leah software comes from hardware [07:54] leah you write software to run on a particular processor [07:54] TR News SJVN at El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/linux_column/ [07:54] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/linux_column/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/linux_column/ [07:54] TR Bot Linux desktop is still the best desktop The Register [07:54] matey ive been saying since 2018: "free software, free culture, free hardware" [07:54] leah or you write a compiler [07:55] leah don't say free [07:55] leah say libre [07:55] leah free is confusing [07:55] leah i try to avoid the word "free" these days [07:55] leah i'll either say freedom-respecting, or libre [07:55] matey im fine with libre [07:55] leah i have to go pack some orders for shipping [07:55] leah i'll be back later [07:55] matey cheers [07:55] leah just had my porridge. now i will have coffee [07:56] leah fun fact about porridge: it's a pain in the ass to do it in the microwave [07:56] matey /me goes to make tea [07:56] leah it always explodes [07:56] leah like a volcano [07:56] matey i just boil water [07:56] matey i dont own a microwave [07:56] matey water boils faster in a pan than a pot [07:56] leah i have nothing to cook porridge with on my stove [07:56] leah just a pot for doing pasta/soup in [07:57] leah could use a pan actually [07:57] matey i do my tea in a pan [07:57] leah pan porridge [07:57] leah matey: do it in water, with just the oats. sprinkle in some cinnamon, and slice up some bananas and cook them with the oats [07:58] matey minus the bananas, plus maple, thats what i do, yes [07:58] TR News Brodie Robertson should know better than to promote criminals' (Microsoft) attack on Free software and on Git itself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbG_mLsbw24 [07:58] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=JbG_mLsbw24 [07:58] leah anyway, laters [07:58] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Explore Github Straight From The Terminal!! - Invidious [07:58] matey cheers [07:58] TR News "Its been a few weeks already that our now former colleague, Mark Dougherty, has decided to venture on a solo mission to create his own Linux dedicated website, called Linux Gaming Central. Now that the site has quite a few articles (and a logo) under its belt, its a good time to feature what you can find on it." https://boilingsteam.com/linux-gaming-central-its-live-check-it-out/ [07:58] TR Bot Linux Gaming Central: it's Live, Check it Out! - Boiling Steam [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 81.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 326.06 [07:59] TR News A compact DIY controller for gaming or robotics | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/14/a-compact-diy-controller-for-gaming-or-robotics/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [07:59] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/14/a-compact-diy-controller-for-gaming-or-robotics/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/14/a-compact-diy-controller-for-gaming-or-robotics/ [07:59] TR Bot A compact DIY controller for gaming or robotics | Arduino Blog ● Apr 14 [08:01] TR News "For years, weve noted how one of the greasier lobbying tactics in telecom is the co-opting of civil rights groups to provide the illusion of broad support for whats often awful policy." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/big-telecom-astroturfers-smear-fcc-nom-gigi-sohn-in-arizona/ | Source: Techdirt [08:01] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/big-telecom-astroturfers-smear-fcc-nom-gigi-sohn-in-arizona/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/big-telecom-astroturfers-smear-fcc-nom-gigi-sohn-in-arizona/ [08:01] TR Bot Telecom Astroturfers Smear FCC Nom Gigi Sohn In Arizona | Techdirt [08:01] leah i'll stick around for a bit while i sip my coffee [08:01] matey pans already on [08:02] leah matey: banana and cinnamon goes great [08:02] TR News "It must be tax season, because here we are yet again talking about Intuit and the companys skullduggery when it comes to offers for free tax filing." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/still-terrible-intuit-hit-by-ftc-lawsuit-over-deceptive-free-tax-filing-advertising-practices/ | Source: Techdirt [08:02] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/still-terrible-intuit-hit-by-ftc-lawsuit-over-deceptive-free-tax-filing-advertising-practices/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/still-terrible-intuit-hit-by-ftc-lawsuit-over-deceptive-free-tax-filing-advertising-practices/ [08:02] TR Bot Terrible: Intuit Hit By FTC Lawsuit Over Deceptive Free Tax Filing Advertising Practices | Techdirt [08:02] leah mix in the cinnamon with the oats and water [08:02] leah slice the banana rigorously. thin slices. mix it in [08:02] leah cook it together, in the pan [08:02] TR News "One of the many symptoms of the many, deep-rooted, law enforcement sicknesses is how often officers decide to help people by harming them" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/eleventh-circuit-strips-immunity-from-deputy-who-saved-a-war-vet-from-self-harm-by-breaking-his-neck/ | Source: Techdirt [08:02] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/eleventh-circuit-strips-immunity-from-deputy-who-saved-a-war-vet-from-self-harm-by-breaking-his-neck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/13/eleventh-circuit-strips-immunity-from-deputy-who-saved-a-war-vet-from-self-harm-by-breaking-his-neck/ [08:02] TR Bot Circuit Strips Immunity From Deputy Who Saved A War Vet From Self-Harm By Breaking His Neck | Techdirt [08:02] leah could always use milk too, but i don't usually buy milk [08:02] TR News Games: Lumencraft, No Mans Sky, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163703 [08:02] TR Bot Games: Lumencraft, No Man's Sky, and More | Tux Machines [08:03] leah banana and cinnamon in porridge. breakfast for champions [08:03] matey i use milk. around here i get shit for it :) [08:03] schestowitz-TR granola! [08:03] leah shit for it? [08:03] schestowitz-TR with tons of sugar! [08:03] leah do you live with vegans? [08:03] matey yeah wannabe vegans in here [08:03] matey no i mean in this channel [08:03] matey its ok, i think its funny [08:03] leah matey: i was vegan for a full year [08:03] leah i did it for science [08:03] schestowitz-TR then want to thailand [08:04] schestowitz-TR *went [08:04] matey im not against people being vegan [08:04] matey but i put milk in my tea [08:04] leah veganism is pointless [08:04] leah that's what i concluded [08:04] leah but: [08:04] leah here in europe and north america, we eat far too much meat and dairy [08:04] leah far too much [08:04] leah we need to eat about 10% of the meat and dairy we currently consume [08:05] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:05] leah i have meat in about 1 in every 8 meals? otherwise, usually beans and lentils or something. or mushrooms and peas [08:05] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [08:05] schestowitz veganishsm [08:05] leah you can get calcium from broccoli [08:05] leah and kale [08:06] leah most of my meat consumption is fish [08:06] leah 1 pint of milk per week. that's the maximum amount of dairy anyone should consume, imo [08:06] leah 1 pint [08:06] schestowitz-TR in brews? [08:06] matey /me drinks his tea [08:07] leah schestowitz-TR: british tea is disgusting [08:07] leah jasmine/green/mint tea is better [08:07] leah (without milk) [08:08] *schestowitz-TR goes to make a teapot [08:08] leah schestowitz-TR: i'm considering reviving my cooking blog [08:08] leah i used to have a cooking section on my blog [08:08] schestowitz-TR "cooking with jasmine" [08:08] leah schestowitz-TR: i've been experimenting ever since living costs went up recently [08:08] leah schestowitz-TR: for the past 2 weeks, i've been spending 0.50 to about 0.80 on food daily [08:08] leah and eating 3 very decent meals daily [08:09] leah at my local morrisons, if you go there at certain times in the day, you get stuff for pennies, close to expiry [08:09] matey close to expiry is great [08:09] leah so i just go there every day. and usually spend less than 1 for the whole day's worth of food [08:10] leah (rice/oats purchased fortnightly) [08:10] leah schestowitz-TR: and i haven't lost weight [08:10] leah and i'm eating well [08:10] leah gonna do a cooking blog, but it'll be named: [08:11] leah How to eat for 1 a day [08:11] schestowitz-TR wow, without bargsins? [08:11] leah no, bargains [08:11] schestowitz-TR [08:09] at my local morrisons, if you go there at certain times in the day, you get stuff for pennies, close to expiry [08:11] schestowitz-TR That's what we do [08:11] leah i've eaten nothing but reduced items for 2 weeks [08:11] schestowitz-TR yes, under a pound a day is doable [08:12] leah got a freezer full of bread [08:12] leah lol [08:12] leah big loafs for 0.06 [08:12] schestowitz-TR but wait, some stuff you cannot get discounted, coffee for example.. [08:12] leah yeah [08:12] schestowitz-TR that's what aldi is for [08:12] leah big 3 jar will last you a month though [08:13] leah 2 weeks if you drink it heavily [08:13] schestowitz-TR moi? no [08:13] leah yeah well [08:13] leah gonna get solar installed here [08:14] matey tea i get is about the same price, lasts 3 months (asian variety, just leaves no bags) [08:14] leah because fuck paying 200 a month on electricity [08:14] TR News "Periodically, we get a glimpse into the financial lives of the ultrarich. A pro athlete signs a huge contract, a tech CEO sells a boatload of shares in their company..." https://www.propublica.org/article/americas-top-15-earners-and-what-they-reveal-about-the-us-tax-system | Source: Pro Publica takes bribes from bill gates though [08:14] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/americas-top-15-earners-and-what-they-reveal-about-the-us-tax-system https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.propublica.org/article/americas-top-15-earners-and-what-they-reveal-about-the-us-tax-system [08:14] TR Bot Americas Top 15 Earners and What They Reveal About the U.S. Tax System ProPublica [08:14] leah i use a lot of electricity [08:14] schestowitz-TR computers? [08:15] schestowitz-TR we have 8 turned on all the time [08:15] matey and equipment [08:15] schestowitz-TR and bill for two, gas inc., under 100 a month [08:15] leah schestowitz-TR: what are they running though [08:15] leah my computers are regularly running stuff [08:15] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:15] matey /me wonders how much juice leahs soldering iron goes through in a month [08:15] schestowitz-TR leah: mostly idle [08:16] leah schestowitz-TR: depending on your tariff though, they still charge you daily, even if you don't use anything [08:16] schestowitz-TR yes [08:16] schestowitz-TR it's a trick [08:16] schestowitz-TR like ISPs with line rental [08:17] leah yep [08:17] matey /me is glad it didnt work out with the one in the uk [08:17] leah so even with solar panels, you still pay some monies for electricity [08:17] leah even if you never dip into mains [08:17] leah one 4k panel will power an average home [08:17] leah including at night (battery backup wired into the panel's supply) [08:18] leah you can get money back for energy you don't use though, that gets fed back into the grid [08:18] matey pay your tarrif with it [08:18] leah (if you have solar) [08:19] leah schestowitz-TR: if you don't have kids and are single, living can be very cheap [08:19] leah schestowitz-TR: the only reason i live by myself is because i run a business here [08:19] leah if i didn't have minifree, i'd go into a shared accomodation [08:19] schestowitz-TR couple without kids is cheaper than single [08:19] leah me and like 5 other people. sharing a house [08:19] schestowitz-TR assuming both work [08:19] leah we'd all just split costs [08:20] leah this is an unpopular opinion but it is a fact also: you can live for <300 a month in the UK [08:20] schestowitz-TR true [08:20] schestowitz-TR I calculated this before [08:20] schestowitz-TR if you share Internet also [08:21] leah yes, shared costs [08:21] leah communal living [08:21] schestowitz-TR that used to be the norm [08:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:21] schestowitz-TR here in manchester library they have exhibits re old houses [08:21] leah if i didn't have minifree, i'd only need a suitcase with clothes, and my laptop and phone [08:21] leah and then i'd live in a commune [08:21] schestowitz-TR and how families would share a lot in common buildings [08:22] schestowitz-TR like a flood or room per >family< [08:22] leah schestowitz-TR: i spend more on coffee and toothpaste than food lol [08:22] schestowitz-TR leah: nomad like is very rms-like [08:23] leah there's a problem though, and it's not my problem, but: [08:23] leah if everyone does what i do, then it would be impossible [08:23] schestowitz-TR but I figured a long time ago that part of stability is minimising the reqs [08:23] leah the way i live depends on others being wasteful [08:23] leah so i'm not really being efficient [08:23] leah i'm just exploiting other people's greed [08:23] matey i'm just exploiting other people's greed <- if everyone did what you did, it would work even better [08:23] schestowitz-TR many geeks exploit misconrehension of tech [08:24] schestowitz-TR and charge people a lot for very very simple tasks [08:24] leah like flashing coreboot on a chip? [08:24] leah :P [08:24] schestowitz-TR if you have practice [08:24] schestowitz-TR like people paying lawyers [08:24] schestowitz-TR to do very simple things [08:24] schestowitz-TR but do they 'right' [08:24] leah speaking of lawyers [08:24] leah i read an interesting article in the guardian the other day [08:24] leah let me pull it up [08:24] schestowitz-TR *them 'right [08:25] leah schestowitz-TR: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/12/barristers-striking-justice-system-legal-aid [08:25] TR Bot Unnecessary and irresponsible? No barristers are striking because justice is being denied | The Secret Barrister | The Guardian [08:25] matey strikes are very popylar right now [08:25] SomeH4x0r someone send me this link on another channel: [08:25] SomeH4x0r *sent [08:25] leah this is from a public defense lawyer [08:25] SomeH4x0r https://i0.wp.com/onlymyenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/What-is-a-Preposition-min.png?fit=850%2C600&ssl=1 [08:25] leah well, here in UK call it legal aid solicitor [08:25] SomeH4x0r the direct link is https://onlymyenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/What-is-a-Preposition-min.png [08:25] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: onlymyenglish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://onlymyenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/What-is-a-Preposition-min.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://onlymyenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/What-is-a-Preposition-min.png [08:26] leah right now if you're in the UK, you can't get legal aid easily [08:26] leah you have to pay for a private lawyer [08:26] SomeH4x0r so, another "alternative" for avoiding Cloudflare [08:26] SomeH4x0r schestowitz-TR: ^? [08:26] schestowitz-TR it can be uploaded somewhere [08:26] leah schestowitz-TR: btw, i think the tories are going to elect a new leader in the summer [08:27] schestowitz-TR but many image cds use clownflare [08:27] schestowitz-TR clownflare loses money [08:27] leah probably liz truss [08:27] schestowitz-TR it operates at a loss to give incentive to people to enter the jail [08:27] schestowitz-TR same as youtube in past years [08:27] leah ok, coffee is consumed [08:27] leah time to get to work [08:27] schestowitz-TR we wrote about liz truss [08:27] schestowitz-TR hang on.. [08:28] leah i actually think she's the least evil of them. her policy about trans people is very troubling, though [08:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [08:28] TR Bot The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights [08:28] schestowitz in relation to the protests [08:29] leah schestowitz: she's the best person to lead the tories though, if they want to win the next general election [08:29] schestowitz-TR she seems ok [08:29] schestowitz-TR we wrote good things about her [08:29] leah if boris is still leader at that time, labour will win [08:29] SomeH4x0r it seems it *does* work with other stuff, though only certain file extensions [08:29] SomeH4x0r e.g. no SVG [08:29] leah schestowitz-TR: and i actually don't want a labour government [08:30] leah right now, under current climate, they'd actually be worse [08:30] matey labour is avoiding a labour government too [08:30] schestowitz-TR the party isn't the only factor [08:30] schestowitz-TR but the system [08:30] schestowitz-TR [22:45] 651 COVID-19 Deaths Reported in the UK Today (63.4% Increase This Past Week Alone) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/13/covid19-death-toll/ [08:30] TR Bot Blog Archive 651 COVID-19 Deaths Reported in the UK Today (63.4% Increase This Past Week Alone) [08:31] schestowitz-TR http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/ [08:31] TR Bot Health [08:31] leah schestowitz-TR: labour would actually cause me to have less money per month. no more. less [08:31] leah but the current tories are bastards [08:31] leah i want a moderate (e.g. liz truss) to lead it, and for them to better fund public services [08:31] matey tories are like wal mart [08:32] matey low prices. they just take it out of something else. [08:32] leah i'd support a more moderate tory government [08:32] leah the one we have right now is hard-right authoritarian garbage [08:32] leah a more libertarian-style tory party would be ideal [08:32] schestowitz-TR borisnaro might be remembered as worse than theresa may [08:33] schestowitz-TR since he took power we've been barely keeping the basic right [08:33] schestowitz-TR on all fronts [08:33] leah i'd vote for them, depending who they have in charge [08:34] schestowitz-TR local election coming [08:34] leah schestowitz-TR: but that depends on a lot of ifs [08:34] leah schestowitz-TR: i'm boycotting it [08:34] schestowitz-TR I just help greens here [08:34] schestowitz-TR where I live tories get fewer votes than greens [08:34] leah yeah don't you have a labour mayor there? [08:34] leah up in manchester [08:34] schestowitz-TR my area of it [08:35] matey SomeH4x0r <- i dont follow what the difference between the two links is supposed to be [08:35] leah schestowitz-TR: ever since corbyn's labour fell apart, i abandoned leftwing politics [08:35] leah i only respected labour when corbyn was in charge [08:35] leah right now, they're no different than the tories [08:35] matey thats true mostly [08:36] leah but at least the tories are honest about who they are and what they stand for [08:36] SomeH4x0r matey: one link is Cloudflare, the other link is an image proxy [08:36] matey oh a proxy [08:36] matey ok cool [08:36] schestowitz-TR leah: ok, i worried that you hated corbyn [08:36] SomeH4x0r it seems it only works on certain file extensions though [08:36] schestowitz-TR what they did to corbyn has a lot in common with the anti-rms uprising [08:37] matey maybe its by mime type [08:37] matey svg is text [08:37] leah schestowitz-TR: i do hate corbyn. what he stands for. he would have been a disaster. but i respect him, because he was honest and no-nonsense about everything [08:37] leah schestowitz-TR: theresa may and priti patel are the main cause of the current authoritarian streak in the conservative government [08:38] leah two really bad home secretaries, enacting draconian laws limiting our freedoms [08:38] schestowitz-TR so you want liz? [08:38] leah i'd argue that the two individuals mentioned are fascists. not tories [08:38] schestowitz-TR i'm all in favour btw [08:38] schestowitz-TR from what I've read of her [08:38] schestowitz-TR I met may in person more than 20 years ago [08:38] leah she's a moderate. liz i mean [08:39] leah she's on the moderate wing of the party [08:39] schestowitz-TR well, if they respect and grasp justice, that's a start [08:39] leah i'm not 100% comfortable with her though because of her policy about trans people [08:39] schestowitz-TR many authoritarians come from business schools [08:39] leah she's opposed to trans teens getting access to care [08:39] leah she thinks you should be at least 16 to get puberty blockers, for instance [08:40] SomeH4x0r just never have children [08:40] schestowitz-TR or a lot fewer [08:40] leah but. i don't think she comes from a position of hatred, just ignorance [08:40] schestowitz-TR we need SOME children [08:40] SomeH4x0r why? [08:40] schestowitz-TR extinction [08:40] leah and i think she could be convinced. with a robust campaign from the trans community [08:40] SomeH4x0r why not? [08:40] matey patel is a monster [08:41] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: ask MinceR [08:41] leah matey: want me to make you hate patel even more? [08:41] matey why not [08:41] schestowitz-TR maybe the cats will want to keep some species of humans in a zoo [08:41] leah matey: priti patel used to be a lobbyist for tobacco companies [08:41] matey heh [08:41] SomeH4x0r children are slaves of the parents. This system needs to be abolished or there will always be such annoyances. [08:42] schestowitz-TR that''s your personal experience [08:42] matey children are slaves of the parents. This system needs to be abolished <- doable [08:42] schestowitz-TR i helped my parents voluntarily [08:42] schestowitz-TR some suggested letting the state take over the kids [08:42] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure i condone this [08:42] SomeH4x0r a siren [08:42] schestowitz-TR many parents ay least love their kids [08:42] matey the state isnt really the answer [08:42] schestowitz-TR states are instrument of the powerful [08:42] matey take care SomeH4x0r [08:43] leah schestowitz-TR: but yes, aside from her policy about trans teenagers, i think liz truss would make a great prime minister [08:43] matey states are instrument of the powerful <- true [08:43] leah schestowitz-TR: kier starmer would be terrible in no10 [08:43] matey leah: do you get a lot of shit from fellow trans activists for this stance? [08:43] leah matey: yes [08:43] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: sad to hear [08:43] leah i've been blocked on twitter, many times [08:43] leah it's why i avoid being political on twitter nowadays [08:44] leah i'm in an extreme minority: [08:44] leah > non-binary [08:44] leah > asexual [08:44] leah > conservative views [08:44] schestowitz-TR leave twitter [08:44] leah most of my kind are leftie [08:44] schestowitz-TR it's BS [08:44] matey yep, youre fucked [08:44] schestowitz-TR and getting worse [08:44] leah schestowitz-TR: i promote my company there [08:44] leah i don't use it for social purposes [08:45] schestowitz-TR there may be better ways to promote the company [08:45] leah matey: conservative lgbt activists do exist in number, though [08:45] schestowitz-TR with same effort levels [08:45] matey oh yeah [08:45] leah matey: did you know the conservative party has more openly lgbt MPs than labour? [08:45] leah it has *more* [08:45] matey former libertarian. we still get along. [08:45] leah 26 at present [08:45] leah 22 in labour [08:45] leah matey: also: [08:45] leah https://www.lgbtconservatives.org.uk/ [08:45] TR Bot LGBT+ Conservatives | [08:45] matey matey: did you know the conservative party has more openly lgbt MPs than labour? <- labour is a fucking farce right now [08:46] leah it's a thing [08:46] matey so it doesnt surprise me [08:46] leah matey: also, TERF / gender-critical crowd has a stronger presence in labour than in the tory party [08:46] matey the world is usually more interesting than one persons views after all [08:46] leah i actually think a labour government would be worse for trans people [08:46] leah *worse* [08:46] leah lol [08:46] matey matey: also, TERF / gender-critical crowd <- yeah, nina paley makes me sad [08:47] matey i used to buy her stuff [08:48] leah that's why [08:48] leah on balance [08:48] leah i think a tory government lead by liz truss is the best thing right now [08:48] TR News "We speak with Starbucks Workers United organizer and barista Jaz Brisack on the growing Starbucks union drive that has swept across 30 U.S. states since she helped successfully organize" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/13/starbucks_workers_united_unionizing_union_drive | Source: Democracy Now [08:48] TR Bot 200 Starbucks & Counting: Barista Jaz Brisack Says Union Busting Cant Stop Worker Solidarity | Democracy Now! [08:48] leah her views come from ignorance, not hatred, and i think she could be turned. with a rigorous campaign from lgbt activists [08:49] leah i distinguish our adversaries like that. i put them in two groups: [08:49] leah * ignorance-based [08:49] leah * hate-based [08:49] matey either way, one would think that being trans doesnt mean giving up your right to a political opinion of your own, eh? [08:49] leah hate-based is people like boris johnson and jacob rees mog [08:49] leah ignorance-based is people like david cameron and liz truss [08:49] matey her views come from ignorance, not hatred, and i think she could be turned <- good stuff [08:49] TR News "The term neoliberalism is often used to condemn an array of economic policies associated with such ideas as deregulation, trickle-down economics, austerity, free markets, free trade" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neoliberalism-gary-gerstle/ | Source: The Nation [08:49] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neoliberalism-gary-gerstle/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neoliberalism-gary-gerstle/ [08:49] TR Bot Has Neoliberalism Really Come to an End? | The Nation [08:49] leah and what you have to realize is: [08:50] leah the person in charge is more exposed to many groups of people [08:50] leah trying to convince the current tory leadership to support us is folly [08:50] mjg59_ leah: Has the party ever apologised for section 28? [08:50] leah that's why i want them to have more moderate leadership, that's more likely to listen to us [08:50] leah mjg59_: not that i'm aware [08:51] leah actually [08:51] leah mjg59_: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/jul/02/david-cameron-gay-pride-apology [08:51] TR Bot David Cameron apologises to gay people for section 28 | David Cameron | The Guardian [08:51] TR News "A bit over 40 years ago the UK and the United Statesfollowed within a few years by most of the rest of western Europeembarked on a radical experiment in governance and economics" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/autocrats-trump-putin-and-le-pen-exploit-failures-neoliberalism | Source: Common Dreams [08:51] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/autocrats-trump-putin-and-le-pen-exploit-failures-neoliberalism https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/autocrats-trump-putin-and-le-pen-exploit-failures-neoliberalism [08:51] TR Bot Opinion | Autocrats Like Trump, Putin, and Le Pen Exploit Failures of Neoliberalism | Thom Hartmann [08:51] leah mjg59_: our history is weird like that though: [08:51] leah > tories oppose rights of an oppressed group [08:51] mjg59_ Oh gosh I missed that [08:51] leah > left/liberal forces liberate us [08:52] leah > former oppressed group becomes first of former oppressed group to become leader... and it's a conservative [08:52] leah tories have had 2 female prime ministers lol [08:53] leah mjg59_: cameron also supported marriage equality [08:53] leah and one of his ministers came out as gay during his time in office, and he congratulated her [08:53] leah (justine greening) [08:53] leah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justine_Greening [08:53] TR Bot Justine Greening - Wikipedia [08:53] mjg59_ Yeah with hindsight various aspects of his social policy were not as bad as I'd expected them to be [08:54] TR News IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/irc-log-130422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/irc-log-130422/ [08:54] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 13, 2022 | Techrights [08:54] leah mjg59_: labour under corbyn would have been great for lgbt people, if it came to power [08:54] leah but starmer is a bastard [08:54] leah a coward [08:54] mjg59_ Oh yeah fuck that dude [08:54] leah being dogged left and right by terfs. and he's giving in to them [08:54] leah boris is a bastard too [08:54] mjg59_ Utterly unprincipled [08:54] matey starmer is a bastard <- yes [08:54] leah i want liz truss to be next tory leader - and i predict she will [08:54] leah mjg59_: current tory leadership chaos will end. tories are good at that [08:54] leah they have a "system" [08:55] leah when a leader goes foul, they chuck that leader [08:55] leah i predict a leadership contest in the summer. and i think liz truss will win [08:55] mjg59_ Yeah the observation that being brutal at throwing out leaders is beneficial for elections is fascinating [08:55] leah mjg59_: there's a group within the tories called Conservative Home that regularly does polls among party members [08:55] leah and their most recent poll around party leadership revealed that liz truss is a favourite among members of the party [08:56] leah and looking at her speeches, the way she conducts herself, i think she'd be effective [08:56] mjg59_ But it's also notable that bad press against potential Boris opponents has tended to show up shortly before bad Boris news [08:56] TR News "Many of us have read about Stirling engines, engines which form mechanical heat pumps and derive motion from the expansion and contraction of a body of air." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/13/home-made-stirling-engines-from-expedient-materials/ | Source: Hackaday [08:56] TR Bot Made Stirling Engines From Expedient Materials | Hackaday [08:56] TR News "We are used to dealing with warping when printing with thermoplastics like ABS, but metal printers suffer from this problem, too." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/13/reducing-warping-in-metal-3d-prints/ | Source: Hackaday [08:56] TR Bot Warping In Metal 3D Prints | Hackaday [08:56] leah mjg59_: the tory party is a well-oiled machine, optimized for winning elections [08:56] leah boris will be out by the end of the summer. i predict it [08:56] leah his time is over [08:56] leah because of the partygate stuff [08:57] mjg59_ Yeah as a political engine they're very effective [08:57] mjg59_ I'll admit that while hating basically 100% of what they stand for politically [08:57] leah mjg59_: but the only one i support to replace him is liz truss [08:58] leah moderate tories are alright. they're the kind of people that are at least somewhat compassionate about others [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 315.96 [08:59] leah anyway ● Apr 14 [09:00] leah mjg59_: you might find this amusing: [09:00] mjg59_ The problem there is that Starmer has basically positioned Labour as the compassionate tory part [09:00] leah ghttps://twitter.com/justinegreening/status/746697259736268800?lang=en [09:00] leah https://twitter.com/justinegreening/status/746697259736268800?lang=en [09:00] TR Bot Today's a good day to say I'm in a happy same sex relationship, I campaigned for Stronger In but sometimes you're better off out! #Pride2016 [09:01] mjg59_ Ha [09:01] leah mjg59_: starmer is a bastard [09:01] leah the blairite wing of the labour party is in power again [09:01] leah in power of the labour party, that is [09:02] leah they're currently stifling free speech within the party, silencing leftwing parts of it [09:02] mjg59_ Urgh if only John Smith hadn't died [09:02] leah they threw out corbyn for example [09:02] leah the anti-semite stuff was a smear campaign imo [09:03] leah that, plus getting corbyn to back 2nd EU referendum [09:03] leah he was doomed lol [09:03] leah the old adage about the left eating its own ass [09:03] leah it always comes true [09:04] leah mjg59_: i respect people who are honest about who they are and what they stand for, even if i disagree with them [09:04] leah so i would have respected a labour government under corbyn [09:04] leah but i would have hated it [09:04] leah similarly, tory government under liz truss would be respectable imo. for the same reason [09:04] TR News "News reports were everywhere that an autonomous taxi operated by a company called Cruise was driving through San Francisco with no headlights." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/13/does-your-programmer-know-how-fast-you-were-going/ | Source: Hackaday [09:04] TR Bot Your Programmer Know How Fast You Were Going? | Hackaday [09:05] leah i respect someone who stands up and says what they believe in, and then fights for that [09:05] matey the real goal of the labour party is a socialist europe [09:05] leah boris on the other hand, doesn't believe in anything. he just wants power [09:05] matey but certainly not under blair and his fakes [09:05] TR News "With conflicts raging over masks, books, and curriculums in the nation's public schools, you'd be forgiven for missing a noteworthy new proposal from the U.S. Department of Education." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/federal-spending-charter-schools-needs-reform | Source: Common Dreams [09:05] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/federal-spending-charter-schools-needs-reform https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/13/federal-spending-charter-schools-needs-reform [09:05] TR Bot Opinion | Federal Spending on Charter Schools Needs Reform | Jeremy Mohler [09:06] leah capitalism but with well-funded schools, hospitals, welfare state and justice system [09:06] leah that's what i want [09:06] matey why capitalism then? [09:06] leah when something is a natural monopoly, it better be run by the state [09:06] matey if you want the other bits [09:06] leah matey: see: natural monopolies [09:06] leah if something inevitably will become a monopoly, the state should run it, as efficiently as possible, free at the point of use, funded by tax [09:07] matey interesting [09:07] leah so, hospitals for example [09:07] leah matey: but that's only very few things [09:07] leah almost everything else imo is fair game [09:07] leah i don't support socialism [09:07] leah i used to. but i became disillusioned when i actually met real socialists [09:07] leah i saw into their hearts and saw what they were [09:07] leah control freaks [09:08] matey <- socialist with a libertarian streak [09:08] matey used to be the other way around [09:08] leah that's what socialism is. an ideology that says "for the people, by the people" but what that means in practise is an authoritarian prick telling you how much money you're allowed to make [09:08] matey but what that means in practise <- yes that happens, its shit [09:08] leah so i say: capitalism but with decently funded public services [09:08] leah and [09:08] leah basically [09:09] leah that's the conservative party [09:09] leah but i'd never vote for them in their current form. the hard-right run it [09:09] leah taken too far, capitalism is also bad [09:09] leah my views sit somewhere between the liberal democrats and the moderate wing of the conservative party [09:10] leah when you think about it, capitalism is the greatest thing ever. but we also have things like nhs, welfare state etc that are also good [09:10] leah look at countries that have done socialism, or are currently doing it [09:10] matey when you think about it, capitalism is the greatest thing ever <- its a step forward from feudalism [09:10] leah they're all poor. their people are starving [09:11] matey a lot of them were inspired by stalin [09:11] matey stalin was EXCELLENT at starving and murdering people [09:11] leah under capitalism, only a few people are poor. the rest are fine. and you protect the lowest in society with welfare [09:11] leah i do support the existence of a well-funded welfare state [09:11] leah and the current tory party is ideologically gutting it, for like, no reason other than sadism [09:12] leah tories in the 90s were much better. under john major's government [09:12] leah welfare was actually well-funded [09:12] matey under capitalism, only a few people are poor <- im far too interested in your tech work to get in a big debate about poltics but i think this is the flaw in your logic [09:12] leah the unemployed had support [09:12] leah (the blair government did increase payouts though) [09:12] matey blair was a mess [09:12] TR News Patents killing millions fopr profit https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/13/rich-nations-big-pharma-still-blocking-early-exit-pandemic-experts | Source: Common Dreams [09:12] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/13/rich-nations-big-pharma-still-blocking-early-exit-pandemic-experts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/13/rich-nations-big-pharma-still-blocking-early-exit-pandemic-experts [09:12] TR Bot Rich Nations, Big Pharma Still Blocking 'Early Exit' From Pandemic: Experts [09:13] matey i was close friends with someone who worked for him [09:13] leah pre-iraq pre-afghanistan, blair was alright [09:13] leah he was basically liberal [09:13] leah liberals are ok [09:13] leah liberal or moderate conservative is ideal [09:13] leah matey: but he was in charge of a party with lots of socialists in it :P [09:14] leah so he got dragged a bit [09:14] matey well i use the term "left opportunists" a lot [09:14] matey im not sure you believe theres a difference between the left and left opportunists. and i can appreciate why anyone might feel that way, having been there many times myself [09:14] matey but the people youre complaining about are left opportunists anyway [09:14] leah ok, define left opportunist [09:14] matey one might say "fake left" [09:15] TR News EFF still not sure if it likes censorship ("misinformation") or not. EFF should urge people to abandon social control media. It would solve many problems. https://www.eff.org/press/releases/human-rights-groups-urge-social-media-platforms-better-protect-free-flow-information | Source: EFF [09:15] TR Bot Civil Liberties Groups Urge Social Media Platforms to Better Protect Free Flow of Information in Crisis Zones | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:15] matey well an opportunist is someone who doesnt really give a shit about the cause [09:15] leah i assume you mean people like liz kendall [09:15] matey but just rides it for their own personal reasons [09:15] matey i mean i dont follow most of the people in uk politics at the moment, its barely even a hobby [09:15] leah are you in the uk? [09:15] matey i get exposed to bits and pieces of it [09:15] matey not anymore [09:15] leah ok [09:15] TR News Social control media is no sacred cow. It's not social. It's not media. We need REAL media back. [09:16] leah schestowitz-TR: at least elon musk isn't joining the board ;) [09:16] leah though he does have a stake in twitter [09:16] schestowitz-TR doesn't matter [09:16] schestowitz-TR twitter is bought and paid for [09:16] schestowitz-TR it's a tool of occupation [09:16] schestowitz-TR and it's about time to jump ship [09:16] matey /me predicted musks stake in twitter [09:17] matey roy said it would collapse, i said it would become a vanity project [09:17] leah mastodon then [09:17] leah run your own mastodon server [09:17] matey roy will still be right eventually [09:17] leah anyway [09:17] leah if i'm right, and the tories elect liz truss as their new leader [09:17] schestowitz-TR twitter is the next "truth social"| [09:17] leah i will be voting for them [09:17] leah in the next election [09:18] leah fuck labour [09:18] leah but if they don't, and the current hard-right administration remains in place, [09:18] leah then i simply won't vote [09:19] TR News "For several years the Identity Project has been engaging with the Port of Seattle over its expansion of automated facial recognition to track travelers at Sea-Tac Airport" https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/04/12/signage-at-new-sea-tac-terminal-flunks-legal-test/ | Source: Papers Please [09:19] TR Bot Facial recognition signage at new Sea-Tac terminal flunks legal test Papers, Please! [09:20] leah mjg59_: tories are holding off for now, because council elections are next month. leadership contest right now would hurt their results [09:21] leah but they also know they'll suffer next month regardless. boris is finished [09:21] matey couldnt happen to a nicer fellow [09:21] matey at least he can get back to his buses [09:22] leah a few more partygate fines, and bad council election results: that will trigger enough discontent within the party, for MPs to write to 1922 committee [09:22] leah and then a leadership contest will be triggered. i predict that it will happen in the summer [09:22] leah (1922 committee is the committee that runs the tory party. the leader answers to it) [09:23] leah labour is fucked. whoever they elect will be more sober minded and serious [09:23] leah labour's only chance to win in 2024 is if boris is still the party leader [09:25] mjg59_ I'd love to think so, and also a lot of the MPs have shown themselves to be pretty craven [09:25] mjg59_ But if I'm wrong, I'll be happy! [09:33] matey /me is watching a video (on youtube) about a prototype version of the old testament which features in no small part a potentially homoerotic sun god [09:34] TR News Patents killing millions of people https://truthout.org/articles/health-experts-covid-vaccine-inequity-is-still-endangering-millions-of-lives/ | Source: TruthOut [09:34] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/health-experts-covid-vaccine-inequity-is-still-endangering-millions-of-lives/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/health-experts-covid-vaccine-inequity-is-still-endangering-millions-of-lives/ [09:34] TR Bot Health Experts: COVID Vaccine Inequity Is Still Endangering Millions of Lives [09:34] matey and its a harvard lecture by someone who has devoted a great deal of his career to the topic [09:34] matey i fucking love the internet [09:35] schestowitz-TR a shame as you will be heartbroken [09:35] schestowitz-TR i am not telling you this because you do not know [09:35] schestowitz-TR you know too well [09:36] TR News Proprietary Worlds and Open Alternatives gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-14-proprietary-worlds-and-open-alternatives.gmi [09:36] matey yes? [09:37] TR News Congratulations Apple! You made a laptop as annoying to use as Microsoft Windows gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/17.1 [09:43] TR News "The ideas that made Unix, hints for writing Unix tools, cron best practices, three different sorts of filesystem errors, LibreSSL 3.5.1 released, taskwarrior to manage tasks, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/450 [09:43] TR Bot BSD Now 450: Unix Tool Writing [09:44] TR News "Stuart Langridge, Jono Bacon, and special guest star Alan Pope present Bad Voltage, in which intelligence is artificial, snaps are un-ned, and art is what you make it" https://www.badvoltage.org/2022/04/14/3x44/ [09:44] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: badvoltage.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.badvoltage.org/2022/04/14/3x44/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.badvoltage.org/2022/04/14/3x44/ [09:44] TR Bot 344: The Loch Dustbinness Monster | Bad Voltage [09:54] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Tidelift, TLLTS, BSD Now, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163704 [09:54] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Tidelift, TLLTS, BSD Now, and More | Tux Machines [09:55] TR News Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163705 [09:55] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:58] TR News This is bollox. Bad advice. Gulag and the US government keeps ALL this data. https://www.maketecheasier.com/prevent-google-tracking-location/ [09:58] TR Bot How to Disable or Automatically Delete Google Location History - Make Tech Easier ● Apr 14 [10:11] TR News "FOSS Linux" has just posted WSL trash. These sites need to understand that WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. It's hardly surprising that Microsoft booster promote this scheme to 'extinguish' GNU/Linux. [10:12] TR News "FOSS Linux", what has happened to you? https://www.fosslinux.com/49812/delete-a-discord-server.htm Discord cannot be deleted, the company keeps everything to possibly sell your data. Discord needs a boycott. [10:12] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: fosslinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fosslinux.com/49812/delete-a-discord-server.htm https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.fosslinux.com/49812/delete-a-discord-server.htm [10:12] TR Bot How to delete a Discord server | FOSS Linux [10:15] SomeH4x0r server? [10:15] SomeH4x0r fucking guild [10:15] schestowitz-TR yeah [10:15] schestowitz-TR words lose their maning [10:16] schestowitz-TR *meaning [10:16] activelow anyone remembers a case, when GNU and/or FSF enforced GPL copyleft? [10:16] schestowitz-TR slaveowners keep rebranding their slaves [10:21] TR News Microsoft TCO (or back doors TCO): "Microsoft has released an advisory to address CVE-2022-26809, a critical remote code execution vulnerability in Remote Procedure Call Runtime Library. A remote, unauthenticated attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/13/microsoft-releases-advisory-address-critical-remote-code-execution [10:21] TR Bot Microsoft Releases Advisory to Address Critical Remote Code Execution Vulnerability (CVE-2022-26809) | CISA [10:22] TR News Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/13/apt-actors-target-icsscada-devices see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Stuxnet [10:22] TR Bot APT Actors Target ICS/SCADA Devices | CISA [10:22] TR Bot Stuxnet - Techrights [10:23] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163706 [10:23] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:23] TR News "Dark mode" has become a form of greenwashing. Just remember to buy another POS device every 3 years? [10:25] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:27] TR News Microsoft, Microsoft, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Kaseya (Windows)... https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/13/cisa-adds-10-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog [10:27] TR Bot CISA Adds 10 Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA [10:28] schestowitz-TR CISA must be run partly by Microsofters [10:28] schestowitz-TR They save face and shift attention to FOSS in a negative light quite a lot [10:29] TR News LoadingMessage component for Kirigami Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163707 [10:29] TR Bot LoadingMessage component for Kirigami | Tux Machines [10:31] TR News Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163708 [10:31] TR Bot Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines [10:58] *inky (~inky@46.36.115.143) has joined #techrights [10:58] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 43.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 316.80 ● Apr 14 [11:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ax7qs2q3ckkci.irc) has joined #techrights [11:07] DaemonFC I'd love to think so, and also a lot of the MPs have shown themselves to be pretty craven [11:07] DaemonFC It's politics, but the Democrat Party in the US is pretty bad. [11:07] DaemonFC We're dealing with a year's worth of inflation every month now and Biden is such an idiot he doesn't know how to fix it and such an asshole he doesn't even care. [11:08] DaemonFC They'd rather lose the election than do anything to help us. [11:08] DaemonFC Unless Donald Trump comes back, Biden is one term and done. [11:09] DaemonFC IF Trump comes back, it's a coin toss really. [11:09] DaemonFC People don't like either one of them but Trump polls ever so slightly worse. [11:14] DaemonFC https://votedanbrady.com/key-issues [11:14] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: votedanbrady.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://votedanbrady.com/key-issues https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://votedanbrady.com/key-issues [11:14] TR Bot Dan Brady - Positions on the Key Issues [11:14] DaemonFC Vote Saxon [11:15] DaemonFC Anyway, yeah, the DMV is pretty horrible. The Currency Exchange gets away with charging more because they get you in and out faster, they never close, and you can get your car title transferred and plates on the car in the middle of the night if you have to. [11:17] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investigates/after-months-of-living-amid-roaches-and-rodents-cha-allows-mom-of-6-to-break-lease/ [11:17] TR Bot After months of living amid roaches and rodents, CHA allows mom of 6 to break lease | WGN-TV [11:18] DaemonFC Meanwhile, CHA leases space to Target and builds $1,800 a month micro apartments for hipsters. [11:25] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:26] TR News 7 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Git Clients Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163709 [11:26] TR Bot 7 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Git Clients | Tux Machines [11:26] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163710 [11:26] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:32] TR News Red Hat (ICBM) "The Great Resignation may be a myth or reality" says a collapsing company. They keep pushing this misleading spin or myth to blame the workers for getting laid off. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/artificial-intelligence-ai-7-key-roles [11:32] TR Bot Artificial intelligence (AI): 7 roles to prioritize now | The Enterprisers Project [11:33] TR News Ben Cotton: Balancing advancement and legacy https://funnelfiasco.com/blog/2022/04/13/balancing-advancement-and-legacy/ spin from ICBM http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ [11:33] TR Bot Balancing advancement and legacy Blog FiascoBlog Fiasco [11:33] TR Bot IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights [11:34] TR News [COPR] Why my patches are missing from custom build https://dingyichen.wordpress.com/2022/04/14/copr-why-my-patches-are-missing-from-custom-build/ [11:34] TR Bot [COPR] Why my patches are missing from custom build | Definite's Extractor [11:35] TR News "When you write source code, you're writing code for humans to read. Computers can't execute source code until the code is compiled into machine language, a generic term referring to any number of languages required by a specific machine." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/jvm-parameters-java-developers [11:35] TR Bot guide to JVM parameters for Java developers | Opensource.com [11:36] TR News My favorite build options for Go | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/go-build-options Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [11:36] TR Bot favorite build options for Go | Opensource.com [11:38] TR News "LINUX" is still a strong brand provided you don't add "Foundation" to it [11:40] TR News "Following The Qt Company's decision to withdraw support for the Russian market, KDAB's geolocation block of its website and Upwork stopping its operations in Russia, there's a likely need of Qt support in the country." http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/04/looking-for-qt-support-get-in-touch.html [11:40] TR Bot Looking for Qt support? Get in touch! | Mardy [11:41] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:41] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:42] TR News Microsoft proxy CompTIA getting webspam and misleading puff pieces from 'FOSS'life https://www.fosslife.org/tech-job-growth-continues-climb [11:42] TR Bot Tech Job Growth Continues to Climb [11:45] TR News "I realized there was some sort of low-hanging fruit I could pick to better tune my WiFi at home. You see, I'm kind of a fraud in WiFi: I only started a WiFi mesh in Montreal (now defunct), I don't really know how any of that stuff works." https://anarc.at/blog/2022-04-13-wifi-tuning/ [11:45] TR Bot Tuning my wifi radios - anarcat [11:45] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163711 [11:45] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:46] DaemonFC https://www.autotrader.com/car-tips/want-a-smoother-ride-change-your-wheel-and-tire-size-213549 [11:46] TR Bot - page unavailable [11:47] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4cyi8scw8uevw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:47] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [11:47] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [11:47] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [11:47] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4cyi8scw8uevw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:47] DaemonFC When I first saw people switching to big rims and smaller tires for them I said "That looks retarded and it can't ride well and without the cheap rubber tire absorbing the shock it all goes straight into the expensive suspension components and wears them out faster. Why would anyone do that?". [11:48] DaemonFC Now OEMs are putting that on as standard equipment and you need to buy new rims if you want away from it. [11:48] TR News Debian: Dirk Eddelbuettel, Antoine Beaupr, and More Apt Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163712 [11:48] TR Bot Debian: Dirk Eddelbuettel, Antoine Beaupr, and More Apt | Tux Machines [11:50] TR News Razer-designed Linux laptop targets AI developers with deep-learning emphasis http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33341 [11:50] TR Bot Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines [11:53] TR News Boing Boing = webspam https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html [11:53] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: boingboing.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html [11:53] TR Bot Six Linux courses that can take you from computer zero to hero quickly | Boing Boing [11:54] TR News "Training Bundle might even make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." WTF?? https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html [11:54] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: boingboing.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html [11:54] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:55] TR News Bill gates: criminals since his teen years. Also: dumpster diver, stealing other people's code. [11:55] TR News Best Raspberry Pi Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163713 [11:55] TR Bot Best Raspberry Pi Projects | Tux Machines [11:56] Techrights-sec yes boingboing has been crap since corey left they shill M$ shift often and [11:56] Techrights-sec loudly [11:57] schestowitz-TR when asking cory in twitter about what BB was doing [11:57] schestowitz-TR he was like, I have nothing to do with these people [11:57] schestowitz-TR very dismissive [11:58] Techrights-sec "make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." [11:58] Techrights-sec what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership? [11:58] Techrights-sec yes he probably feels burned because it was off to a good start while he [11:58] Techrights-sec was there [11:59] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:59] DaemonFC what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership? [11:59] *spazzz is now known as spazz [11:59] DaemonFC North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes? [11:59] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [11:59] schestowitz-TR This is not a BB problem but a WWW problem [11:59] schestowitz-TR far too many sites are becoming like this [11:59] schestowitz-TR moments ago I also mentioned FOSSLife ● Apr 14 [12:01] DaemonFC "Buicks offer a more upscale experience than your average Toyota, Mazda, or Nissan car but not as upscale as BMWs, Jaguars, Audis, Mercedes-Benzes, etc." [12:02] DaemonFC European luxury cars give you a more luxurious interior to sit on while the engine boils itself to death on the side of the road. [12:04] DaemonFC "According to RepairPal, the average annual maintenance and repair cost for a Buick is $608, which is noticeably lower than the $652 across all models and much lower than the costs for a BMW ($968), Mercedes-Benz ($908), and many other makes of luxury cars." [12:04] DaemonFC That's just an average though. When the BMW's cooling system fails, people tend to get rid of the car seeing as how the engine's ruined too the first time it overheats because of plastic and aluminum crap inside. [12:04] DaemonFC So the repair bills stop with the car is 7 or 8 because it's just scrap metal at that point. [12:05] Techrights-sec They are one example of the symptom. [12:05] Techrights-sec I guess buyouts worked for the colleges and universities and now they are turning to the reamining areas where people can self-tea [12:05] Techrights-sec learn in spite of everything else. [12:06] DaemonFC "A reason for this is because Buick is part of General Motors and shares parts with the companys other brands, particularly Chevrolet, which makes the parts needed to make repairs affordable and easily attainable." [12:06] DaemonFC Yes, which increases the size of the aftermarket and makes sure you can still get parts for your Buick! [12:07] DaemonFC In many cases, between 1999 and 2009, the parts are exactly the same between various GM models, including Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, and Pontiac (defunct). [12:07] DaemonFC Even though Pontiac has been gone for years now, you can get parts. [12:07] DaemonFC They're generic. [12:08] DaemonFC If you get some weird car with a limited production run that breaks down all the time, good luck. [12:08] DaemonFC FIAT is now selling less than 50,000 cars per year into the American market, in total, under the FIAT brand. So they're considering packing up and leaving. [12:09] DaemonFC Americans joke about FIAT meaning "Fix It Again, Tony!" because they're so poorly made. [12:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You have to wonder how some of these companies are even in business. [12:10] DaemonFC Who would buy something that is so unreliable and is well known for changing their parts around so much you can never get a good deal on them. [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:11] leah schestowitz-TR: i'm such a twat, i didn't know it was bank holiday friday+monday this month [12:11] leah easter weekend [12:11] leah i hate bank holidays. especially double bank holidays [12:11] DaemonFC Yeah, and IKEA isn't even doing their Easter dinner anymore. [12:12] DaemonFC :( [12:12] leah payments still come in, but i have to explain to my customers why their laptop will take 2 additional business days to ship [12:12] leah because most of my customers are foreigners, who don't have bank holidays [12:12] leah or they do, but on different dates [12:12] DaemonFC because most of my customers are foreigners, who don't have bank holidays [12:12] DaemonFC They don't have Christians in those countries? [12:12] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@q63fhesnpxtc8.irc) has joined #techrights [12:13] leah they do, but they won't take time off from work [12:13] leah due to less workers rights [12:14] leah meh [12:14] leah that's 4 days for me to goof around then [12:14] leah yay [12:16] schestowitz-TR leah: I only remembered a week ago [12:16] leah we should like, be a completely robotic society. just have everything running 24/7, 7 days a week. and 1/7th of workforce has monday and tuesday off. next 1/7th have tuesday and wednesday. etc [12:16] leah that way, twats like me who work every day and don't consider it work, but consider it fun (coreboot is fun) don't get pissed off waiting for stuff to open after being closed for days [12:17] leah but there's a twist. have it all running non-stop but have everyone doing no more than 4 hour shifts. at double the current wages [12:17] DaemonFC https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/13/some-of-the-top-free-apps-on-the-mac-app-store-are-just-bait-for-in-app-purchases-says-developer/ [12:17] TR Bot Mac App Store apps are just 'bait' for in-app-purchases - 9to5Mac [12:17] leah basically make the UK like a borg ship [12:18] leah 1/3 of it operating, the rest of it sleeping, but it's always operating [12:18] DaemonFC And even the Apple fan sites admit that most of the App Store is just bait for dumbshit and dumbshits. [12:18] leah schestowitz-TR: have you ever considered how absurd it is that the country is completely dead, for 12 hours every day? [12:18] leah empty streets [12:19] schestowitz-TR no [12:19] schestowitz-TR streets can be redundant [12:19] schestowitz-TR many drive for no reasons [12:19] schestowitz-TR better use of the space is possible [12:19] leah yeah like the netherlands [12:19] leah their public transport and cycling infrastructure is amazing [12:19] leah schestowitz-TR: but in the netherlands, they have bicycle traffic jams [12:19] leah ever seen those? [12:20] leah you can sometimes actually be stuck in bicycle traffic [12:20] schestowitz-TR lol [12:20] DaemonFC I commented: "Even the Apple fan sites admit that most of the Apps are trash designed to bait people in to waste money, like a roach motel. [12:20] DaemonFC There's no replacement for local computing and Free and Open Source Software." [12:20] leah i'm serious [12:20] schestowitz-TR leah: cycling is no fun near roads [12:20] leah bunch of dutch people swearing on their bikes, waiting to get ahead [12:20] leah it's hilarious [12:20] schestowitz-TR even on cycling lanes [12:20] schestowitz-TR we only cycle on the canal side [12:21] leah i bike it on the roads where i am [12:21] leah next to traffic [12:21] leah but yeah, better infrastructure is needed [12:21] leah cars are stupid [12:21] leah trains and buses are better [12:21] leah plus bicycles [12:21] leah more trains and buses would be my preference [12:21] leah would help disabled people too, who may not be able to drive very easily, and rely on public transport [12:23] leah plus, electric trains have been a thing for a while now [12:23] DaemonFC "Cindy Coffelt [12:23] DaemonFC I used to shop weekly at Wal-Mart but over the last five years I've come to absolutely hate shopping there. I now only go about once a month for a couple of items that I have trouble finding elsewhere." [12:23] leah can run it all on solar and wind power [12:23] leah and btw [12:23] DaemonFC I replied, "At least they're not like Amazon, with Bezos launching himelf into "technically space" while his workers never last more than a month or two and have to pee in bottles, and third party sellers with counterfeit junk." [12:23] leah two countries on earth are known to be very windy: [12:23] leah * pakistan [12:23] leah * UK [12:23] leah both of these countries have some of the best potential for wind energy [12:23] leah wind farms [12:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:25] TR News 158174 | Gemini address: 158174 [12:25] TR News Links 14/04/2022: IBM/Red Hat Arguing Against Legacy Support | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/against-legacy-support/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/against-legacy-support/ [12:25] TR Bot Links 14/04/2022: IBM/Red Hat Arguing Against Legacy Support | Techrights [12:25] TR News Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163714 [12:25] TR Bot Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:25] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163715 [12:25] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:26] schestowitz-TR [12:23] both of these countries have some of the best potential for wind energy [12:27] schestowitz-TR we'd need to abandon cars except food transport etc. [12:27] schestowitz-TR wing generates energy, but some things use it up too fast [12:27] schestowitz-TR *wind [12:28] schestowitz-TR and don't get me started ib "Electric" planes [12:28] schestowitz-TR or space missions [12:28] schestowitz-TR spaceX... powered by batteries :-) [12:29] schestowitz-TR things people concerned for the planet can do: [12:29] schestowitz-TR 1) very rarely fly [12:29] schestowitz-TR 2) never buy a car [12:29] schestowitz-TR 3) don't have kids [12:30] schestowitz-TR 4) recycle, reuse, repurpose etc. [12:30] schestowitz-TR use clothing instead of heating to the extent feasible (some age groups and parts of the world cannot) [12:30] schestowitz-TR things that won't save us: [12:30] schestowitz-TR 1) tech utopia [12:31] schestowitz-TR 2) buying "newer" and "greener" things (more manufacturing) [12:31] schestowitz-TR (1) and (2) are pseudo-solutions touted by capitalists [12:32] schestowitz-TR turning the climate and overpopulation disaster into yet more profits (or "capitalist activity") [12:32] schestowitz-TR double glazing or better insulation can knock off billions of energy bills, over decades [12:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC took is (IMO) too far [12:33] schestowitz-TR he started sleeping in a bag, zipped up [12:33] schestowitz-TR there are way to reuse energy [12:34] schestowitz-TR like putting computers in the same room, then shutting the doors [12:34] schestowitz-TR a lot of excess energy becomes heat, also body heat [12:34] schestowitz-TR several people in the same room means energy sharing [12:34] schestowitz-TR it all sounds radical [12:34] schestowitz-TR and media won't advocate such things, it's too busy "selling" [12:34] schestowitz-TR not teaching [12:35] schestowitz-TR we've not turned on the heating for years [12:35] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [12:35] *activelow (~activelow@4qc3338mpcm6n.irc) has joined #techrights [12:36] schestowitz-TR speaking of energy use [12:36] schestowitz-TR the web also contributes a lot to pollutio [12:36] schestowitz-TR on the client side and server side [12:36] XRevan86 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.50 [12:36] schestowitz-TR they are, at best, greenwashing their act [12:36] TR Bot 0.3.50 PipeWire / pipewire GitLab [12:37] leah schestowitz-TR: how do you avoid your pipes freezing? [12:37] leah if you don't turn on the heat i mean [12:38] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:38] TR News "[I almost used the word on-boarding in the title, but then I realized that's marketspeak and I don't want to use marketspeak as I find the synergism incondusive to the synchronistic harmonizing of perpendicular incentives." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/28.1 [12:38] leah schestowitz-TR: i saw a post from someone once, about sustainable server hosting [12:39] leah basically the dude was running a raspberry pi off of a solar panel [12:39] leah tiny panel [12:39] schestowitz-TR leah: valve [12:39] schestowitz-TR for outdoor pipes [12:39] leah ok [12:39] schestowitz-TR otherwise it bursts a lot [12:40] leah according to the gas man who came recently to check my boiler, the government is ordering the construction of hydrogen infrastructure [12:40] schestowitz-TR keeping water in the pipes warm is not good use of energy [12:40] leah we will have hydrogen in our homes in like [12:40] leah 10 years? [12:40] leah hydrogen boilers [12:40] leah > hydrogen [12:40] schestowitz-TR bam [12:40] leah so their thinking is: [12:40] leah rebuild the pipes really thick, and make damn sure they're well-welded [12:41] leah and make sure the boilers are reliable... yeah, right lol [12:41] schestowitz-TR broken windows theory [12:41] leah i'll make sure to have thermal solar panels long before i let someone put hydrogen in my house [12:41] schestowitz-TR we used from electric showers to ga [12:41] schestowitz-TR gas [12:41] leah that shit is even less safe than regular gas [12:41] schestowitz-TR and now the price of gas goes through the roof [12:42] leah yeha i was gonna ask, how do you shower if you havent turned the heating on in years [12:42] leah was gonna ask if you go cold [12:42] leah cold showers are ok once you get used to them [12:42] schestowitz-TR not in winter [12:42] schestowitz-TR but water heating is another matter [12:42] schestowitz-TR even washing machines need that sometimes [12:42] schestowitz-TR not alway [12:43] schestowitz-TR some can heat that up or do cold washes [12:43] leah i've never understood though why you need gas to heat a home [12:43] leah why can't boilers just be electric? [12:43] schestowitz-TR but with 20 litres you can get a long shower [12:43] leah heating element and just heat water [12:43] schestowitz-TR the temperature differential in summer is small [12:43] schestowitz-TR like 26->35 [12:43] leah like, why do you need gas [12:44] leah electric heaters are more efficient [12:44] schestowitz-TR gas used to be cheaper [12:44] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@dzhffiiy2qznw.irc) has joined #techrights [12:44] schestowitz-TR but there's another facet [12:44] schestowitz-TR like electric heater breaking a lot [12:45] schestowitz-TR and being hard to repair [12:45] schestowitz-TR so you can connect one single boiler to the whole [12:45] schestowitz-TR and then maintain just that one thing [12:51] leah schestowitz-TR: anyway [12:51] leah local jobs [12:51] leah local jobs means people can walk [12:51] leah then you build cycling lanes [12:51] leah i agree with you: roads should be mostly for delivery of goods [12:51] schestowitz-TR tell that to "clown computing" boosters [12:52] schestowitz-TR they don't have any notion of local [12:52] leah ? [12:52] leah well a job on the internet neither is nor isn't local [12:52] leah unless i suppose if you host the servers in your own lab [12:52] schestowitz-TR a lot of jobs can be done from home or walking distance [12:52] schestowitz-TR self-hosting is feasible [12:52] schestowitz-TR but the www is far too bloated [12:52] leah yeah well, i've identified that these things are the cause of global warming: [12:52] schestowitz-TR maybe by design [12:53] leah * meat/dairy indistry. we need to eat like, 90% less of that [12:53] schestowitz-TR and the intention of floating everything to datacentres [12:53] leah * commuting to work by car [12:53] leah * soybean farming [12:53] leah (yes, vegans, looking at you. you're just as bad as meat eaters) [12:53] schestowitz-TR soy needs ruining forests [12:53] schestowitz-TR it causes its own problems [12:53] leah plus like [12:53] leah a few other things [12:54] leah pets are bad too. we breed animals just to have as pets [12:54] schestowitz-TR no [12:54] leah a pet labradour is pretty bad for the planet [12:54] schestowitz-TR companionship is important [12:54] schestowitz-TR pets don't use up muhc energy [12:54] leah but i wouldn't want to take people's pets [12:54] leah and they're not the biggest threat [12:54] leah so... [12:54] schestowitz-TR pets rarely fly [12:55] leah less meat, less milk, less cheese, less cars [12:55] schestowitz-TR you forgot less people [12:55] leah and no soybeans [12:55] schestowitz-TR nobody likes to say that [12:55] leah schestowitz-TR: i was going to say it [12:55] schestowitz-TR haha [12:55] leah but it's pointless to say it [12:55] leah know why? [12:55] schestowitz-TR because it's not politically-correct [12:55] leah nobody will ever listen to it. human nature is to procreate endlessly [12:56] schestowitz-TR people insinuate you want to kill people [12:56] leah schestowitz-TR: no, i don't mind saying it, and i agree [12:56] leah schestowitz-TR: that's the only way to do it. that's why i didn't say it [12:56] leah because i see no way to do it, without endorsing genocide [12:56] schestowitz-TR as you are aware I'm a neo (news) philes [12:56] leah what's what [12:56] schestowitz-TR and this week I saw many items about famine and startvation [12:57] schestowitz-TR also water crisus [12:57] schestowitz-TR neophile = lover of news [12:57] leah i actually think we can have like double or triple the number of human beings [12:57] leah it's totally fine [12:57] leah and i believe it will happen in my lifetime [12:57] leah population 30 billion [12:57] schestowitz-TR there is already a capacity issue [12:58] schestowitz-TR and we're ruining forests [12:58] leah ruining forests to eat meat and dairy [12:58] schestowitz-TR many animals become extinct [12:58] leah also soybeans [12:58] leah meat, dairy and soybeans are in large part why we cut down trees [12:58] leah to make farm land [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 353.93 [12:59] leah i don't know how we would do paper sustainably [12:59] leah how to make paper, that is [12:59] leah and shipping containers are often made from trees too [12:59] leah cardboard i mean ● Apr 14 [13:00] schestowitz-TR it's an x*y*z problem [13:00] schestowitz-TR reduce x [13:00] schestowitz-TR or y [13:00] schestowitz-TR or z [13:01] schestowitz-TR even if you reduce consumption, waste etc. you won't accomplish enough if you double the size of the population every 50-100 years [13:02] leah i'd say covid might be the answer you're looking for, to reduce world population [13:02] leah but so far, it has only gotten rid of about 0.5% of humanity [13:02] schestowitz-TR like MinceR might say, it's not strong enough [13:02] schestowitz-TR and it mostly kills very elderly people [13:02] schestowitz-TR it handicaps others [13:02] schestowitz-TR putting burden on the health systems [13:03] schestowitz-TR *healthcare [13:03] schestowitz-TR leah: and about 10% of businesses, maybe a lot more [13:03] leah ? [13:04] schestowitz-TR so a lot more people are financially helpless now [13:04] leah oh, you mean 10% of businesses shut down [13:04] leah yeah that'll do it then [13:04] leah wipe out the rest with poverty [13:04] leah btw [13:04] schestowitz-TR [07:53] COVID-10 death toll https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/08/1049268/the-download-how-a-zambian-morgue-is-exposing-the-real-covid-toll-in-africa/ [13:04] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/08/1049268/the-download-how-a-zambian-morgue-is-exposing-the-real-covid-toll-in-africa/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/08/1049268/the-download-how-a-zambian-morgue-is-exposing-the-real-covid-toll-in-africa/ [13:04] TR Bot How a Zambian morgue is exposing the real covid toll in Africa | MIT Technology Review [13:04] leah i'm just being scientific here [13:04] leah taking your point to the logical extreme [13:04] leah (methods to reduce world population) [13:04] schestowitz-TR i think it's like drake equation [13:04] schestowitz-TR but for planet earth [13:04] leah how so? [13:05] schestowitz-TR and not for probability, rather than overall utility [13:05] schestowitz-TR rms tried to 'lecture' brazilians on overpopulation last year [13:05] schestowitz-TR it did not go well [13:05] schestowitz-TR not lecture per se [13:05] schestowitz-TR but catholics are in denial about it, just like muslims [13:05] leah oh my god [13:06] leah no pun intended btw, because i wrote it before seeing you add that last line [13:06] schestowitz-TR their religion tells them to play the "numbers game"... to 'win' [13:06] leah have you ever heard a brazillian person be angry, swearing and shouting in portuguese [13:06] schestowitz-TR i know who you mean [13:06] leah there's the stereotype of them being happy, peaceful people, but then you hear cursing in portuguese [13:06] schestowitz-TR he shouted in english [13:06] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:07] schestowitz-TR being happy is getting harder [13:07] leah schestowitz-TR: was that the same lecture where he had a nervous breakdown? [13:07] schestowitz-TR unless you become cynical like george carlin [13:07] leah he tried to speak at a conference in brazil, and spoke in spanish [13:07] leah but nobody understood him, so he got angry [13:08] schestowitz-TR the organisers' fault [13:08] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@nn58qcu3qngy2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:08] leah why would you do that though [13:08] schestowitz-TR but rms could handle it better [13:08] leah speak spanish at a conference in a portuguese-speaking country [13:09] leah anyway, i might celebrate easter this year [13:09] leah with chocolate eggs i mean [13:09] schestowitz-TR "break an egg" [13:09] leah i was craving chocolate last night [13:09] schestowitz-TR I am going to record something in a mo [13:09] leah ok have fun [13:09] leah i'm gonna get back to my things [13:10] leah i'm actually pretty on top of work at the moment. april is usually a slow month [13:10] leah i'm mostly just getting as ahead as possible [13:10] leah because i plan to work on a libreboot release soon. ready for release later this month hopefully [13:11] schestowitz-TR yeah, slow news too [13:11] leah libreboot and osboot. simultaneous releases [13:11] schestowitz-TR I shall take advantage of that [13:11] leah oh? [13:11] schestowitz-TR what you heard.. [13:11] schestowitz-TR very very slow news [13:11] schestowitz-TR journalism is nearly dead [13:12] schestowitz-TR bbiab [13:14] leah i've also noticed slow news lately [13:15] leah anyway [13:17] leah schestowitz-TR: something you might be interested in: [13:17] leah see: #BigPowerOff on twitter [13:17] leah next one is on saturday at 7pm. to take part, you just turn off your electricity for 10 minutes at that time, and then turn it back on [13:18] leah the idea being: if enough people do it, it'll cause a nationwide surge [13:18] leah which could cause real damage to infrastructure [13:18] leah and the idea therefore is: energy companies and the government will be forced to lower prices, or get royally fucked [13:19] leah it's being organized by a group called: [13:19] leah Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) [13:19] leah the organisers are based in sheffield [13:19] leah you could cover that. i think it's a great idea [13:19] leah and i've decided that i will take part [13:19] leah i'm turning off my electricity this saturday, at 7pm. for 10 minutes [13:19] leah that means all my websites will be offline for 10 minutes [13:21] schestowitz-TR ok, recording stopped [13:21] leah in my opinion, they should tell people to do it every day [13:21] leah 3 times daily [13:21] schestowitz-TR i had to stop early due to technial f*up [13:21] leah daily blackouts [13:21] leah by my estimation, 10% of households need to do this, for the action to be effective [13:23] leah schestowitz-TR: spain did it, and it worked [13:23] schestowitz-TR lol [13:23] schestowitz-TR Twitter [13:23] leah energy prices went down [13:23] schestowitz-TR Twitter is NOT for activism [13:23] schestowitz-TR you are NOT in control [13:23] schestowitz-TR Twitter controls you [13:24] leah tell that to spain [13:24] schestowitz-TR MUSK controls YOU [13:24] leah they have cheaper energy bills now [13:24] schestowitz-TR "real damage to infrastructure" [13:25] schestowitz-TR doesn't sound like Luddites [13:25] schestowitz-TR sounds like dumbFucks (Facebook(TM)) deluding themselves into things [13:25] schestowitz-TR you need whisteblowers and stuff [13:25] schestowitz-TR like at EPO [13:25] schestowitz-TR or Wikileaks [13:26] schestowitz-TR vandalising one's own infra isn't conducive [13:26] schestowitz-TR and it mostly helps Twitter's owners [13:26] schestowitz-TR who still control you [13:26] schestowitz-TR they do tons of meddling everywhere [13:26] schestowitz-TR even elections and wars [13:27] schestowitz-TR organising actions in social control media is like lecturing veganism inside a lion's den [13:27] schestowitz-TR eventually the lair's owner will eat you [13:28] schestowitz-TR leah: if you don't mind me changing subjects [13:28] schestowitz-TR I am typing up our strategy and priorities at the moment [13:28] schestowitz-TR with focus on patents [13:28] schestowitz-TR open to insights from yoiu [13:28] leah i don't know much about patent issues [13:29] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:29] schestowitz-TR in libreboot surely you step on a few [13:30] leah nda's [13:30] leah it's nda's that bite me [13:31] leah when i want to know something and the information can only be obtained under nda [13:36] schestowitz-TR I see [13:36] schestowitz-TR akin to Trade Secrets? [13:36] schestowitz-TR those are not the same but related [13:37] schestowitz-TR are you even allowed to say who signs with who? [13:38] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [13:39] leah well, i'm against nda's and don't want to legitimise the practise [13:39] leah so i never sign them [13:40] leah patents don't really come up as often in hardware because you're often not able to do anything with it anyway [13:41] leah but nda's chip documentation is a huge problem [13:48] schestowitz-TR with patents in the mix I guess [13:48] schestowitz-TR usually is it patents, secrecy, or both [13:49] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@6tng9f7cab9ge.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] schestowitz-TR btw re spain [13:50] schestowitz-TR those fools outsourced to US [13:50] schestowitz-TR and to US oligarachsa [13:50] schestowitz-TR and they don't damage only their own griud [13:50] schestowitz-TR but also their own home appliancesa [13:50] schestowitz-TR and neighbours [13:50] schestowitz-TR elaborate sabotage [13:51] schestowitz-TR encouraged by US-owned and Saudi-owned social control media foolfest [13:51] schestowitz-TR amazing [13:54] *CrystalMath (~coderain@ggn387q5i3jba.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 14 [14:03] psydruid so Musk has made an offer to buy Twitter [14:03] TR News Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/epo-propaganda-and-lawlessness/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/epo-propaganda-and-lawlessness/ [14:03] TR Bot Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 1 | Techrights [14:04] schestowitz-TR psydruid: has he? [14:04] schestowitz-TR url? [14:04] schestowitz-TR i hope it's true [14:04] schestowitz-TR I REALLY hope it's true [14:04] schestowitz-TR it'll die faster [14:04] schestowitz-TR like "truth social" [14:04] schestowitz-TR or LeeNode [14:05] schestowitz-TR people don't want to work for charlatans and frauds [14:05] psydruid https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001494730/000110465922045641/tm2212748d1_sc13da.htm [14:05] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: sec.gov | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001494730/000110465922045641/tm2212748d1_sc13da.htm https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001494730/000110465922045641/tm2212748d1_sc13da.htm [14:05] schestowitz-TR thanks [14:05] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001494730/000110465922045641/tm2212748d1_sc13da.htm ) [14:05] schestowitz-TR " [14:05] schestowitz-TR Name of Reporting Person: I.R.S. Identification Nos. of Above Person (entities only): [14:05] schestowitz-TR [14:05] schestowitz-TR Elon R. Musk [14:05] schestowitz-TR " [14:05] schestowitz-TR "Explanatory Note: This statement on Schedule 13D amends the Schedule 13D of Elon Musk (the Reporting Person) that was filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on April 5, 2022, as amended on April 11, 2022 (collectively, the Schedule 13D), with respect to the Common Stock of Twitter Inc. (the Issuer). This amendment to the Schedule 13D constitutes Amendment No. 2 to the Schedule 13D. Capitalized terms used but [14:05] schestowitz-TR not defined herein have the meanings given to such terms in the Schedule 13D. Except as set forth herein, the Schedule 13D is unmodified." [14:06] schestowitz-TR "As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder." [14:06] schestowitz-TR wow [14:13] TR News Microsoft's cloud business targeted by EU antitrust regulators http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424#comment-33342 [14:13] TR Bot EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux Machines [14:13] TR News Krita 5.0.5 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163716 [14:13] TR Bot Krita 5.0.5 released | Tux Machines [14:13] TR News Google Shares Plan to Make Steam Work on Chrome OS with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163717 [14:13] TR Bot Google Shares Plan to Make Steam Work on Chrome OS with Linux | Tux Machines [14:14] TR News SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 is Generally Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163718 [14:14] TR Bot SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.2 is Generally Available | Tux Machines [14:21] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-81.jpg [14:21] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- 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| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/european-putin-office/ [14:56] TR Bot [Meme] Kangaroos in Ukraine | Techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 88.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 342.71 ● Apr 14 [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:05] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:07] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@phgdj3exxtdc4.irc) has joined #techrights [15:10] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [15:11] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@v6shyw7gnk86i.irc) has joined #techrights [15:13] *ebin (~ebin@shs6nqv3fn37q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:15] *Guest91 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:15] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (connection closed) [15:15] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Connection closed) [15:15] *schestowitz_log__ has quit (connection closed) [15:17] *Guest91 (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:b10e:4035:ab6a:de59) 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(connection closed) [15:42] *schestowitz_log__ has quit (connection closed) [15:55] TR News Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 2 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/spurning-science/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/spurning-science/ [15:55] TR Bot Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 2 | Techrights ● Apr 14 [16:05] *bnchs (~bnchs_@160.176.46.67) has joined #techrights [16:05] *bnchs (~bnchs_@160.176.46.67) has left #techrights [16:05] *bnchs_ (~bnchs_@8zuqi94mi347k.irc) has joined #techrights [16:08] bnchs_ hello [16:11] schestowitz-TR 0/ [16:12] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [16:12] bnchs_ NULL [16:13] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@4qc3338mpcm6n.irc) has joined #techrights [16:13] bnchs_ '\0' [16:14] schestowitz-TR it's me waving hello [16:14] schestowitz-TR kde neon isn't as great as I thought [16:14] schestowitz-TR it's acting like some kind of rolling release [16:14] schestowitz-TR which is maybe what it was [16:15] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:15] schestowitz-TR I will test it some more weeks [16:15] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@joseon-fd5vn0.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [16:15] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Changing host) [16:15] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [16:15] schestowitz-TR before giving a more complete 'review' [16:15] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:3599:7469:32d3:9e9b) has joined #techrights [16:15] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:15] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/I-hope-it-doesnt-explode-any-time-soon.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-i-hope-it-doesnt-explode-any-time-soon#comic ) [16:15] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/I-hope-it-doesnt-explode-any-time-soon.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/I-hope-it-doesnt-explode-any-time-soon.png [16:15] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [16:16] bnchs_ yeah i know [16:16] bnchs_ i said NULL because in a char its '\0' [16:19] psydruid I tried KDE Neon when it was first released but it broke itself twice in short succession, so I tried Fedora and then shortly after that Debian [16:27] *bnchs (~bnchs@8zuqi94mi347k.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] *bnchs_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:38] bnchs i like how anti-linux shills always point out that linux is "unusable" [16:38] bnchs or "unstable" [16:39] bnchs they fake stories about how linux is unusable [16:39] bnchs and then refuse to offer any more information [16:39] bnchs like system logs [16:42] bnchs also strawmans [16:46] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [16:47] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 317.96 [16:59] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 14 [17:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hzyndtutd6fti.irc) has joined #techrights [17:15] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZMKcbC0rTs [17:15] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=IZMKcbC0rTs [17:15] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=IZMKcbC0rTs ) [17:15] DaemonFC The Toyota Corolla at 2:55 has a bad serpentine belt. [17:16] DaemonFC The guy should get it replaced. [17:16] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:17] DaemonFC Any time that belt starts squaling, chirping, making any noise whatsoever, take it to a GOOD mechanic, have them inspect the entire drive shaft system for bad/misaligned pulleys and of course noise from any accessories it runs, to see if those need replaced, and even if nothing needs replaced, get yourself a new belt anyway. [17:17] DaemonFC Because chances are there's something wrong with the belt even if the drive system is fine otherwise, and you don't want a belt to snap and leave you stranded somewhere. [17:19] DaemonFC The Buick started chirping yesterday morning when it was wet out. It went away after I drove the car a few blocks. I was going to the shop anyway, had them inspect the drive shaft system and they didn't find anything wrong with those expensive accessories ar pulleys, so I said "Throw the 14 year old belt in the trash and we'll put a new belt on and see if it goes away.". This morning it was even muggier and more humid than yesterday. I started [17:19] DaemonFC the car with the new belt. No noise at all. [17:19] DaemonFC It was belt glazing on the old belt. [17:20] DaemonFC THe rubber had started to break down with heat and age (more age than anything, because they're never supposed to be on there more than 10 year even if you don't have 100,000 miles on the belt yet). [17:21] DaemonFC And when it gets wet, that section of the belt starts getting pulled over some of the pulleys and chirping at you, and if you don't take care of it, your car can even start doing odd things before it goes ahead and snaps. [17:22] DaemonFC Because it's suppose to grip the drive shaft and accessories tightly and turn all of them, and when part of the belt is slipping, it's not running those accessories properly until a good section of the belt gets back over them and starts turning them again. [17:23] DaemonFC The S-Belt is actually a huge improvement on modern cars and the latest one to use several belts in there was Toyota, I think. [17:23] DaemonFC They're known for reliable cars, but there's like 5 belts in there, so when it's belt day, you have some expensive jobs to do. [17:25] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, So I need to get new TPMS sensors in the Buick. [17:26] DaemonFC It was dinging at me when they sold it and it says "SERVICE TPMS SYSTEM" but it's not a huge deal, other than the annoyance and I can't just tell the computer "I don't want to spend any money on that. Shut up.". [17:26] DaemonFC But I think I still got a good deal on the car. [17:27] DaemonFC Carvana is so ridiculous on pricing that even though the cars seem to be okay as a general rule, and they probably fix it up well enough that it's not dinging at you right away, there's still no guarantees that it's had all of its recommended servicing. [17:31] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:32] DaemonFC If they want you to pay $11,000 for a car similar to the one I got for $7,950, you're going to be really hot under the collar if they drop something off that's got a few issues and you're right back into the shop getting those nailed down. [17:34] DaemonFC Right off the bat, I needed a new remote control, a second key, a bunch of service work, a battery. I mean so that's another $1,700 worth of stuff, right? But Carvana drops off a mystery car that costa $11,000 and you might still need to do some of this stuff anyway. [17:36] DaemonFC I'd much rather just buy a car with some quirks for $3,050 less, skip the extra $500 in taxes for having bought it from a dealer that my state would have charged me, and go through some things with a mechanic where it won't cost me half that difference and I get credit card points and coupons along the way. [17:37] DaemonFC like "truth social" [17:37] DaemonFC That flopped big time. [17:38] DaemonFC The problem conservatives at having with their social media is that aside from the Cancel Mob coming after them and forcing them to use their own infrastructure, like software and hosting, there's too many conservative social media sites and it waters down the experience. [17:38] DaemonFC If Gab, TRUTH, and Parler were all like, one thing, and everyone went there, it would do pretty well by user count. [17:40] DaemonFC Back to used cars, the used car market is nuts right now, and you can end up paying as much as I did, or more, for a total piece of crap. [17:40] DaemonFC When I was shoppping around I noticed something. [17:40] DaemonFC $6,000 tends to get you a total rustbucket now, especially at a dealership. [17:41] DaemonFC That's $6,000. When I was a young man you could buy a late model car in decent shape anywhere you wanted to and it was like $2,000 if that. [17:41] DaemonFC And for $2,000 you expected no rust, low miles, nothing huge wrong with it. [17:41] DaemonFC Because when the other guy bought his new car, he got something totally decent for $20,000. [17:42] DaemonFC So if a nice new car is $20,000, you get to sell your used one for $2,000, but when the government starts fucking with the car market and a new car is $60,000-$70,000 out the door, a decent used one won't start at less than $7,000 or so. [17:43] DaemonFC The government crushed a lot of cars like mine in Cash 4 Clunkers in 2009. They ruined a bunch of really good late model American cars and people bought this battery shit from Asia and it's all broken down by now, and the American cars that survived the program can still run fine if they haven't been abused. [17:44] DaemonFC And the program only brought up the average MPG for the US fleet by 1.2 MPG. [17:44] DaemonFC And they destroyed millions of cars that had already been built and all the energy and GHG emissions that had been used to build them were now wasted so they could build another car. [17:44] bnchs they locked the #fsf channel [17:44] bnchs god dang it [17:44] bnchs now i need to be registered [17:44] bnchs i'm pretty sure the trolls triggered them too much [17:45] DaemonFC On LIBERAL Chat? [17:45] bnchs yes [17:45] bnchs 4chan trolls ruin everything [17:46] DaemonFC I'm going back to the shop on Wednesday. [17:46] psymin Which android ebook reader is the most free? :) [17:47] DaemonFC They've got some engine and transmission rebuilds ahead of me. That's fine. A TPMS light is minor stuff. [17:48] bnchs psymin: librera pro [17:50] psymin bnchs, this? https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/ [17:50] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: f-droid.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/ [17:50] TR Bot Librera Reader | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository [17:50] bnchs yeah [17:54] schestowitz-TR I've installed obs studio [17:54] psymin bnchs, "The best way to fully appreciate Librera Reader, however, is to use our restriction-free Librera PRO version from Google Play" [17:54] schestowitz-TR wish I did that in 2020 already [17:54] bnchs psymin: fdroid's version is librera pro [17:55] bnchs probably compiled off their source code [17:55] psymin odd, that quote is from the fdroid page [17:55] DaemonFC I was out in the Buick this morning and that transmission is shifting like a dream. [17:55] bnchs and besides already has no restrictions [17:55] DaemonFC Can't even feel it shifting. [17:56] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@kp95bcc3dm3jy.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 14 [18:17] TR News OBS Studio on KDE neon | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/obs-studio-on-kde-neon/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/14/obs-studio-on-kde-neon/ [18:17] TR Bot OBS Studio on KDE neon | Techrights [18:22] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163720 [18:22] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:25] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@2nu59fp5tq5g2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:26] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] *includeals has quit (*.net *.split) [18:35] bnchs__ libera chat netsplited [18:35] bnchs__ most of the channels are now 0-20 users [18:36] psydroid2 isn't #fsf more like an echo chamber of people who pat themselves on the back a bit too much while doing absolutely nothing fundamental to further free software? [18:37] bnchs__ well they have forced registeration [18:37] *includeals (~includeal@a89-153-106-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [18:37] bnchs__ because of the trolls from yesterday's RMS talk [18:38] psydroid2 I mean in general [18:38] MinceR well, i could say things in #fsf (and rarely i do) but they get ignored anyway [18:38] psydroid2 I've never seen anything there that makes me go "that's insightful" [18:41] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:43] TR News After several days of firefighting against one technical disaster or another we're back to normal; this coming weekend we intend to tackle a lot of misleading journalism and outright fake news (issued to spread lies, by intention) http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/epo-propaganda-and-lawlessness/ [18:43] TR Bot Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 1 | Techrights [18:43] TR News EPO management found the courage or the audacity rather to pretend to be a benevolent force for peace and justice when in reality its a malignant cancer full of corruption and prevalent, unrelenting law-breaking http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/european-putin-office/ [18:43] TR Bot [Meme] Kangaroos in Ukraine | Techrights [18:43] TR News The EPO has spurned science and has chosen politics as a smokescreen instead, mostly as a cover for the operations being designed to promote the interests of multinational monopolists and their patent litigation representatives http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/spurning-science/ [18:43] TR Bot Tackling EPO Propaganda and Lawlessness: Part 2 | Techrights [18:44] TR News Were going to try more advanced video recording software that does more things at once and does not result in a dire need for editing (as that would be extremely time-consuming) http://techrights.org/2022/04/14/obs-studio-on-kde-neon/ [18:52] TR News Yes, the Steam Deck will eventually get Ray Tracing, once the AMD GPU driver matures | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/yes-the-steam-deck-will-eventually-get-ray-tracing-once-the-amd-gpu-driver-matures/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:52] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/yes-the-steam-deck-will-eventually-get-ray-tracing-once-the-amd-gpu-driver-matures/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/yes-the-steam-deck-will-eventually-get-ray-tracing-once-the-amd-gpu-driver-matures/ [18:52] TR Bot the Steam Deck will eventually get Ray Tracing, once the AMD GPU driver matures | GamingOnLinux [18:52] TR News "Soldat 2 entered Early Access in September 2020 but it seems it didn't quite hit the marks players wanted, and failed to find much of an audience. Transhuman Design never gave up on it, and as it turned out they were hard at work to overhaul everything. This huge revamp is out now!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/soldat-2-gets-completely-overhauled-in-a-new-update-out-now/ [18:52] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/soldat-2-gets-completely-overhauled-in-a-new-update-out-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/soldat-2-gets-completely-overhauled-in-a-new-update-out-now/ [18:52] TR Bot 2 gets completely overhauled in a new update out now | GamingOnLinux [18:53] TR News Play Worms 2 on Linux with the Worms 2 Plus patch | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/play-worms-2-on-linux-with-the-worms-2-plus-patch/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:53] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/play-worms-2-on-linux-with-the-worms-2-plus-patch/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/play-worms-2-on-linux-with-the-worms-2-plus-patch/ [18:53] TR Bot Worms 2 on Linux with the Worms 2 Plus patch | GamingOnLinux [18:54] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/BkFGItp.jpeg [18:54] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/BkFGItp.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/BkFGItp.jpeg ● Apr 14 [19:09] TR News "SUSE has a skunkworks distro in development, the transition Debian is struggling with, and some long-awaited improvements to Raspberry Pi OS." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148212/linux-action-news-236/ [19:09] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148212/linux-action-news-236/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148212/linux-action-news-236/ [19:09] TR Bot Linux Action News 236 | Jupiter Broadcasting [19:11] TR News Why I don't use Squarespace or WordPress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C-DXeqUTgA "There are better options, but let's review where these common solutions fall short and what I do to fix them." [19:11] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=5C-DXeqUTgA [19:11] TR Bot y.com.sb | Why I don't use Squarespace or WordPress - Invidious [19:11] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZNP11k3kcY [19:11] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=-ZNP11k3kcY [19:11] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | Kubuntu 22.04 LTS overview | making your PC friendly - Invidious [19:12] TR News Proprietary software (so media won't mention this): "CVSS v3 9.6" (almost 10/10 in severity) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-104-03 [19:12] TR Bot Red Lion DA50N | CISA [19:14] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/industrial-control-system-malware-discovered.html [19:14] TR Bot Control System Malware Discovered - Schneier on Security [19:18] TR News Links 2.26 Minimal Web Browser Brings DNS Over HTTPS and WebP Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163721 [19:18] TR Bot Links 2.26 Minimal Web Browser Brings DNS Over HTTPS and WebP Support | Tux Machines [19:19] SomeH4x0r isn't DNS Over HTTPS a DNS client feature, not web browser? [19:21] TR News 12 Best Vim Plugins To Install In Your Terminal (2022) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163722 [19:21] TR Bot 12 Best Vim Plugins To Install In Your Terminal (2022) | Tux Machines [19:22] TR News Project Zero: CVE-2021-1782, an iOS in-the-wild vulnerability in vouchers https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/04/cve-2021-1782-ios-in-wild-vulnerability.html Source: gulag project zero [19:22] TR Bot Project Zero: CVE-2021-1782, an iOS in-the-wild vulnerability in vouchers [19:22] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: the borwsers are spyware [19:22] schestowitz-TR I would not trust them [19:24] TR News Best 12 Xfce Themes Collection For Linux Distros To Try in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163723 [19:24] TR Bot Best 12 Xfce Themes Collection For Linux Distros To Try in 2022 | Tux Machines [19:25] SomeH4x0r wdym "to try in YEAR"? [19:25] SomeH4x0r does it matter what year it is to choose themes? [19:25] schestowitz-TR updates list [19:26] schestowitz-TR maybe because some people search by year [19:26] schestowitz-TR they don't want to get a page about best distros 12 years ago [19:26] SomeH4x0r best as in what? Taken over by corporations the most? [19:27] SomeH4x0r nonsensical updates wasting resources [19:28] TR News Wait till they find out GNU/Linux distros are technically miles ahead of all versions of Windows Vista, including "11" https://www.maketecheasier.com/more-users-windows-xp-than-windows-11/ [19:28] TR Bot More Users Sticking with Windows XP than Upgrading to Windows 11 - Make Tech Easier [19:28] SomeH4x0r we had less powerful PCs years ago and yet all stuff was functional [19:28] bnchs__ more userssticking with windows XP [19:28] bnchs__ now tell me whats the difference [19:28] SomeH4x0r higher level of resource abuse [19:28] bnchs__ 1. an abandoned, shit version of a OS [19:28] bnchs__ 2. more spyware version in a OS [19:29] TR News It is widely accepted by now that Vista 11 is a failure [19:29] SomeH4x0r why is it "shit"? [19:29] bnchs__ all versions of windows is shit [19:30] bnchs__ but what i was saying, is that it doesn't matter if you "stick" with windows XP [19:30] bnchs__ microsoft can and will backport their spyware [19:30] SomeH4x0r afaik it has just a few updates [19:31] SomeH4x0r though it was de facto supported until 2019, so idk [19:31] bnchs__ maybe i got a good plan for microsoft [19:31] bnchs__ 1) wait until some big security vulnerability comes out [19:31] bnchs__ 2) all windows users are affected [19:31] TR News Mesa VERSION: bump to 22.2-devel for next cycle https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=6a83d94e626bd439bc549326ebbe9f25ca33a19c [19:31] bnchs__ 3) release update for currently "supported" windows versions [19:31] TR Bot mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) [19:31] bnchs__ 4) release update for the "unsupported" versions aswell [19:32] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [19:32] bnchs__ 5) the update has spyware backdoors [19:38] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163724 [19:38] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:38] TR News Games: Steam Deck, Screeps: Arena, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163725 [19:38] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck, Screeps: Arena, and More | Tux Machines [19:39] TR News Experiments in digital oppression, disguised as companies (often subsidised at taxpayers' expense to believe the taxpayers) https://thehill.com/policy/3266930-hillicon-valley-groups-push-tech-to-step-up-on-crises/ [19:39] TR Bot Hillicon Valley Groups push tech to step up on crises | The Hill [19:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:40] TR News Microsoft is repeatedly being bailed out, both by Trump and Biden http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [19:40] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [19:41] TR News Facebooks Ukraine-Russia Moderation Double Standard https://theintercept.com/2022/04/13/facebook-ukraine-russia-moderation-double-standard/ Source: theintercept | omidyar pac [19:41] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/13/facebook-ukraine-russia-moderation-double-standard/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://theintercept.com/2022/04/13/facebook-ukraine-russia-moderation-double-standard/ [19:41] TR Bot Facebooks Ukraine-Russia Moderation Double Standard [19:41] TR News April 14, 2022: Cyberattacks on Ukraine continue https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ Ukrainian public now paying the FULL price for Windows (Microsoft) [19:41] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [19:41] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [19:44] TR News "At first glance, the title of this article may sound like an oxymoron. However, what it highlights is the introduction of a rather useful feature that will enable a far more robust and elegant handling of the /dev/shm implementation inside the snap sandbox." https://ubuntu.com//blog/private-shared-memory-support-for-snaps [19:44] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/private-shared-memory-support-for-snaps https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/private-shared-memory-support-for-snaps [19:44] TR Bot shared memory support for snaps | Ubuntu [19:45] TR News Canonical told the community of Ubuntu, "go to Hell." 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[19:48] TR Bot *Ostentatio Genitalium* in Renaissance Art The Public Domain Review [19:49] TR News My ninth year working at Mozilla https://alxgbsn.co.uk/2022/04/14/my-ninth-year-working-at-mozilla/ Source: alxgbsn [19:49] TR Bot My ninth year working at Mozilla Alex Gibson [19:50] TR News "Were pleased to announce that we have partnered with the Center for Humane Technology, a nonprofit organization that radically reimagines the digital infrastructure." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mozilla-partners-with-the-center-for-humane-technology/ WTH, Mozilla? 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[20:26] TR News Videos: Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163729 [20:26] TR Bot Videos: Kubuntu 22.04 LTS and More | Tux Machines [20:28] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:29] *bnchs (~bnchs@uc3enwfevzauw.irc) has joined #techrights [20:40] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/fried-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/this-is-why-you-shouldnt-mix-chinese-western-foods/ ) [20:40] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/fried-children.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/fried-children.jpg [20:40] TR Bot This is why you shouldnt mix Chinese & Western foods [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 418.71 ● Apr 14 [21:02] *tpmd (~tpm@wv7bucyd4dbcc.irc) has left #techrights [21:08] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:14] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/saddam-hussein-spaghetti.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/the-mother-of-all-lunches/ ) [21:14] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/saddam-hussein-spaghetti.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/saddam-hussein-spaghetti.jpg [21:14] TR Bot The Mother of all Lunches [21:18] *matey (~matey@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [21:23] leah schestowitz: today's item is: potato and leek soup [21:23] matey psydroid2 I've never seen anything there that makes me go "that's insightful" [21:23] SomeH4x0r hi [21:23] leah always a different, random item every day [21:23] matey mmmmmm potatoes [21:23] matey hi someh4x0r [21:24] leah 0.10 for "potato and leak soup kit", serves 4. potatoes and leaks, pre-chopped. expires tonight. cook it and it lasts an extra day [21:24] leah can pad it with rice and lentils to make it last longer [21:24] *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights [21:24] matey psydroid2 psydroid etc: its worse than that. not only is it a circlejerk responsible for very little [21:25] leah schestowitz: seriously, why does anyone pay for anything? [21:25] matey you wont find anyone in there saying much of interest, because a happy little mob would gently nudge them towards the door [21:25] matey then, when everyone with an actual idea has left, they say, as always [21:25] matey JOIN US AND HELP US FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM! [21:25] matey how about no? how about, GO JOIN YOURSELF AND STICK IT UP YOUR BUM! [21:25] matey (just saying) [21:26] matey to be fair, rms said rougly the opposite yesterday. but the damage has already been done. [21:26] matey he said give us ideas so we can put them on the help page [21:26] matey its a bit late for that, the culture has ossified (osi-fied?) [21:26] psydroid2 it seems to be a social circle, not a technical circle anymore [21:27] matey its a mildly (unintentionally) elitist social circle [21:27] matey and theres nothing wrong with being technical. you and leah are BOTH more technical than i am [21:27] matey but neither are elitist. [21:28] matey its not just about you, you, you. and the people in #fsf dont mean it to be. but they just dont get it. [21:28] matey they dont mean it to be a tight little club. they literally cant help it. they would probably love to, if they had any idea how. [21:28] matey why cant they figure it out? they cant seem to reverse engineer a driver for their ears. [21:28] matey pity [21:29] matey even rms has demonstrated this problem (dramatically so) with regards to hardware [21:29] matey that alone is a huge problem, for reasons you and leah both can explain [21:29] matey but also an example of a larger (hearing) problem that rms passes down to his acolytes [21:30] matey and this was sustainable for a few decades, and has now collapsed [21:30] matey leaving any and all who truly care about such a legacy going forward to pick up and do with it what they will [21:31] matey it wasnt my first choice. my first (second, third) choice was for more of the "foundation" to stay intact [21:31] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [21:31] matey but it couldnt, i suppose [21:32] matey i heard from a (libertarian) friend of mine today, named sage, who i told about the rms talk [21:32] matey not THAT sage, of course [21:32] matey she said bummer, but if its worth doing it will go on (with people doing as they see fit) [21:33] matey rms (like others) made one concession to "open source" in his talk yesterday [21:34] matey open source razed the temple and looted its contents, and murdered the high priest [21:34] matey rms is truly beaten [21:35] matey i listened to the talk three times yesterday. i told the chief gnewsance it was meant as a state of the union, but read more like articles of surrender [21:36] matey i know it wasnt intended that way. which makes it all that much sadder [21:37] psydroid2 everything has a beginning and an end [21:37] psydroid2 and then a new cycle starts [21:37] matey and then a new cycle starts <- you took my response, but its alright [21:39] matey i will be one of the people who always sees rms as the founder of all this [21:39] matey however, even with that [21:39] matey ill give credit to those who pushed just as notably early on [21:39] matey like gilmore [21:40] matey lessig stole stallmans ideas, proudly, and was never shy to admit it [21:40] matey i adore him [21:40] matey lessig is the shit [21:40] matey pity cc is even farther from its founder than the fsf is from its own [21:41] matey stallman stole his ideas too. though im not sure he did so deliberately, it certainly wasnt from open source, and i doubt he realises how far from original his idea really was [21:42] matey kingoffrance would probably argue that no idea is original, and i would agree [21:42] matey only sins are original, and even then very very few of them :) [21:43] matey (im mostly thinking of the vatican rag, one of of the funniest and silliest songs ive ever heard) [21:45] matey i dont like torvalds. i really dislike him. hes a schmuck. [21:46] matey however, i still think hes better than gkh and i think if he hadnt been cancelled he would have chosen a better successor (and that was the point) [21:46] matey rms too has lost the opportunity to find a successor. he will support whoever they put in front of them, having little real choice or power. [21:47] matey and he will hope for the best. as if thats all any of us can do. and we will be asked to join him in that. [21:47] matey but just as lessig says the point of elections is to choose from a very small pool of people already selected by primaries controlled by money [21:48] matey the fsf will move into place people not worth our time as stallmans successor [21:48] matey and it will be painfully obvious, but we will still be expected to give our support. [21:48] matey at that point it will be good to remember that the fsf has no real authority [21:49] matey it had cultural relevance, and it will still have historical relevance, and (imo) it betrayed us all several times [21:49] matey mostly by capitulating to its own enemies-- and then asking us to join it in doing so [21:49] matey but, fuck that. [21:50] matey it wouldnt be anything remotely like the first progressive institution to make such a fatal mistake, and become irrelevant as a result [21:50] matey nor does progress end with the end of such institutions [21:50] matey nor do fake things like open source preclude the possibility of non-cynical alternatives [21:51] psydroid2 you have to be willing to make yourself obsolete [21:51] matey just because open source is fake doesnt mean every alternative will be [21:51] psydroid2 as an individual or as an organisation [21:51] matey imagine if the wright brothers had tried to control the apollo mission [21:52] matey "no no, no, you need balsa flaps to make sure the rocket can steer towards its course!" [21:52] matey well i mean, with that level of thrust balsa flaps are probably fucking useless (though im not a rocket scientist) [21:52] matey (neither are the wright brothers) [21:53] matey imagine if einstein had told hawking to go fuck himself, or if we had left relativity up to newton [21:53] matey these are all very important people we owe swaths of scientific progress to [21:53] matey none are small or unimportant [21:54] matey but free software in its present state cant sustain (or even defend) itself [21:54] matey it has failed [21:54] matey and it must go on somehow [21:54] matey trying to stand up to the war on general computing, with the tools the fsf has available [21:55] matey is like trying to figure out quantum mechanics with newtons laws of motion [21:55] matey we must have new strategies-- they wont be entirely unlike the old strategies [21:56] matey but just like you cant put an ancient copy of apache up and then secure it with old versions of security tools [21:56] matey we need bigger upgrades than the fsf can organise [21:56] matey or is willing to organise [21:57] matey and im not arguing for bloat-- im saying that the fsf is a bloated poorly maintained mess [21:57] matey dont fix whats not broken [21:57] matey but fix whatever has failed ● Apr 14 [22:04] psydroid2 scientific development always goes on after branching out in several directions [22:04] matey it has to explore new possibilities [22:05] matey many of which will prove to be dead ends-- but without exploring, youre already at a dead end [22:07] matey the fsfs approach was nearly confucianist in its nature [22:07] matey we have thousands of years of experience with the limitations of such an approach [22:08] matey but we actually hit the limit a few years ago [22:09] matey im not saying it couldnt have gone on longer, it was certainly attacked [22:09] matey but it didnt stand up to it, as much as they put a brave face on everything-- no one is fooled [22:09] matey theyre standing on their own ruins [22:10] matey they refuse to learn from the experience, except to capitulate further, which they were already doing when the attacks started [22:11] matey we learn. we apply. they insist. we ignore. [22:11] matey we have already parted ways with them. [22:13] matey newtons inertia still applies. it drags the divorce out. [22:14] matey we divide up all our things-- thousands of them. the difference from a traditional divorce being that copies are as good as the originals, but we still have to decide what to take with us. [22:15] matey it will be a vaugely similar process if mankind ever makes it out of the solar system [22:16] matey this planet wont sustain us forever even if we learn to stop destroying it [22:16] matey but if we make it that far, we will leave the solar nest [22:17] matey and the sun will explode [22:17] matey and they wont elect a new one [22:22] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/blowing-to-fuck.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/11/hair-so-good-youll-be-saying-wtf/ ) [22:22] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/blowing-to-fuck.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/blowing-to-fuck.jpg [22:22] TR Bot Hair so good youll be saying WTF! [22:23] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oOm_2dGzqp0 [22:23] TR Bot Shaka Zulu vs Julius Caesar. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious [22:23] matey caesar will fall [22:24] matey but not to shaka zulu [22:24] MinceR dundee will fall [22:28] matey dundee will fall https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KDjfLpbfR4o [22:28] TR Bot GLORYHAMMER - The Land of Unicorns (Official Lyric Video) | Napalm Records - Invidious [22:28] MinceR indeed [22:28] matey thanks, i wasnt expecting heavy metal unicorns [22:29] MinceR :) [22:30] matey if jack black ever makes a sequel to school of rock this needs to be in it [22:30] MinceR :> [22:34] matey the points on the corners of the font are too much [22:34] matey im never going to look at the metallica logo the same way ever again [22:34] matey "why are the letters like that?" [22:35] matey "those are unicorn horns" [22:35] matey "oh" [22:35] matey "wait, what?" [22:37] matey "On 22 August 2021, Gloryhammer announced that Thomas Winkler had exited the band.[18] Winkler addressed the situation, stating he was fired via an email that cited the band's reasons for his departure as disagreements on business and organizational matters." [22:38] matey it wasnt that. they just thought his name wasnt metal enough [22:38] matey "oh cmon, what about the fonz? aaaaaaaaaaayy" [22:38] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:52] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/k1f601h.mp4 [22:52] -AltLink_b60/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/k1f601h.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/k1f601h.mp4 [22:55] matey (slightly less metal version) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=17o1OlroNSE [22:55] TR Bot Space Unicorn - Parry Gripp and Brianne Drouhard - Invidious [22:56] matey closer to the beatles when they still sang "yeah yeah yeah" in their lyrics [22:56] matey not so metal [22:57] chunky \m/ METAL AF \m/ [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 331.70 ● Apr 14 [23:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:05] *psydruid saw Megadeth live in concert but not Metallica [23:05] matey you made the right choice [23:05] matey i wont lie, i was never really a megadeth fan [23:06] matey but if i could go back and give a shit about them instead, that would be alright [23:06] matey im not ashamed that i liked metallica. i dont think they actually sucked back then [23:06] matey by the time i was in high school though, i could only laugh and shake my head [23:08] matey the first two cds i bought were weird al and metallicas selftitled (deny) album [23:08] psydruid I don't have any of Megadeth's albums and I do have the older Metallica albums, but I don't really know what they're about anymore these days [23:08] matey i honestly think rock sort of died in the past 15 years or so [23:09] matey the last time i heard a rock band that actually sounded like a rock band, it was anvil (dave grohl was saying how great they were. he was also really smashed) [23:10] matey gloryhammer is more recent, they sound fun at least but when i was listening i was like "shit, i hope theyre not white supremacists" [23:10] matey probably not, if mincer was referencing them [23:10] matey but like thats where we are with rock music sort of... [23:10] matey to be fair i REALLY havent been paying attention, im happy if im wrong [23:10] matey still if i hear anything metal i have no idea what im listening to [23:11] matey i still look like a MIGHT play a bass though [23:11] matey or sell organic smoothies, one of the two. [23:14] psydruid I sort of grew up with rock and metal, but as you said it doesn't seem to really be in vogue anymore [23:14] matey and i dont care whats in, i still like some of the stuff i liked as a little kid [23:14] matey beatles, lennon, phil collins, huey lewis [23:15] matey and i like a lot of electronica [23:15] matey with rock i think its either sincere or its bullshit [23:15] matey and i think most rock is... i dont know what the fuck it is [23:16] matey it went through a really bad patch for a while and i havent picked it back up [23:16] psydruid I listen to all kinds of things these days, as long as I believe it's good music [23:16] matey i blame california. [23:16] matey yeah good music is good music [23:16] matey i fucking hate country, its my least favourite genre 10 times over [23:16] matey even there there are exceptions [23:16] matey i like klezmer, i wasnt expecting that [23:17] matey but i had a friend who played accordion for a klezmer band [23:17] matey what can i tell you [23:17] psydruid I got some klezmer music from Poland when I was living there [23:18] psydruid I haven't listened to a lot of it, though [23:18] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QOrrNM4md8c yes, roundabout [23:18] TR Bot Yes - Roundabout (Original 1971) - Invidious [23:19] MinceR rocktronica [23:19] matey theres a klezmer version of "talk dirty to me" but i like the original better [23:19] *XRevan86 will take this time to listen to Yes Roundabout for no reason whatsoever. [23:19] matey its time well spent [23:20] matey i love bobby mcferrin and reggie watts [23:20] psydruid I used to listen to quite a bit of electronic music but these days mostly for nostalgic reasons [23:20] XRevan86 matey: I absolutely love it. [23:20] psydruid rocktronica is cool [23:21] psydruid oh, yes [23:21] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=344OpaQCAQI [23:21] TR Bot Reggie Watts (Key & Peele outro song) 'I Just Want To' (2009) - Invidious [23:21] matey XRevan86: yes is fucking epic [23:21] XRevan86 It's the part of my music tastes where people say "the heck is this?" [23:21] psydruid always heard that name but never really listened to them [23:22] matey i grew up on british music and "oldies" but not in the uk [23:22] matey the first solo artist i liked was phil collins [23:22] XRevan86 Italian music here. [23:23] matey my favourite song this week is some random accordion song played on a bus by some middle aged man in belarus [23:23] matey if its not that good i wouldnt be able to tell you, im no expert [23:23] psydruid Indian music here and rock, metal and electronica mostly from the 90s [23:24] psydruid so I don't really know much from the 70s and before [23:24] matey i still love counting crows-- though when i teased dfc about finding it in his buicks cd player i was teasing [23:24] matey 90s music had fucking depth [23:25] matey even the pop music (sometimes) [23:25] psydruid that's a good band, I have some of their albums [23:25] matey there was a lot of shit too. i still like aqua :) [23:25] psydruid from the 90s, yes [23:25] psydruid oh :) [23:25] matey i have no pride-- i was a debbie gibson fan. [23:26] matey she cant be all bad, she loves billy joel. [23:27] matey of course no one says anything after that [23:28] matey "the swastika tattoo was one thing, but debbie gibson?" (i made up the tattoo part) [23:29] matey theres a true story, from trent reznor, that sometimes to get pumped up before going on stage he would listen to cece peniston [23:29] matey i remember her. its fucking hilarious. [23:29] matey hes too much [23:31] psydruid haha [23:31] psydruid I know he had something with tori amos [23:33] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q [23:33] TR Bot Focus - Hocus Pocus Live '73 - Invidious [23:35] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22040310 [23:35] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/dd5lwn785wp81.jpg created on 2022-04-03 06:05:22.118991 [23:38] matey i have no idea how much coke you have to do to perform that song, but it cant be healthy [23:44] psydruid Free as a bird => Freebird [23:53] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NSfOB8ANdWU [23:53] TR Bot Gerry Rafferty - Right Down the Line - Invidious [23:56] matey and of course https://yewtu.be/search?q=adrian+belew [23:56] TR Bot adrian belew - Invidious