●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, June 14, 2021 ●● ● Jun 14 [00:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it does progress [00:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but not for us [00:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the rich pay less tax over time [00:00] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] All of Disney's good stuff is in the distant past. [00:00] kingoffrance yes, good to be more specific (not agreeing or disagreeing there, but nuance is what is lost with the myth) [00:00] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we now have like FIVE brands of listening devices [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] PROGRESS [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] INNOVA~1 [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] quite moaning, buy smart thing [00:01] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] It's cheaper to find a VCR and tapes (or DVDs) for your kids. There's all the good stuff you'd get to show them on Disney+ which you'll forget to cancel and will just be another monthly bill. [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] any time moaning is time wastes on potential shopping [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] cons0000merism [00:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *Wasted [00:02] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Parents used to just swap copied Disney tapes that they made at home with each other at work so they wouldn't have to go out and spend like $30 a pop on them (and that was when $30 was worth what $60 is now!). [00:03] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] There was still a Disney then and they still made money despite all the people renting and copying tapes on the sneakernet. Which was basically a low rent bittorrent of the 1980s and 90s. [00:03] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] How did they manage? [00:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] now we have CIA torture by women [00:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] torture good [00:03] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's emancipating people [00:04] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] mjg59 was enabling government agencies to waterboard people. (They have to find the people to waterboard first.) Also, kids in cages. [00:04] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] But a woman felt she was hired beneath her skills and gets a shout out on his personal Shitter. [00:05] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] ooh, extreme sports [00:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I remember the Uncle Remus song from Song of the South because Disney put it on one of their soundtrack tapes in the 90s. [00:06] techrights-bot #Linux 5.13-rc6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152257 [00:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Dad liked to play Disney songs in the car. [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc6 | Tux Machines [00:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] You probably can't find it on Youtube because Disney would just say they owned it and that would be the end of that. [00:07] *pogosad has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:07] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Maybe the only place this title will live on is over pirate sites. [00:07] *blakewo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:08] *pogosad (~poggo@gateway/tor-sasl/pogosad) has joined #techrights [00:08] *blakewo (~blakewoo@gateway/tor-sasl/blakewo) has joined #techrights [00:08] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] They're mostly sitting on a bunch of great stuff from the 20th century and some theme parks, and not a hell of a lot else. They make huge budget Star Wars movies each year where you'd figure they would stop once someone pointed out they were making the same exact movies and changing the setting a little. [00:09] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] And they're ruining the theme parks to placate some asswipes like Garrett. [00:09] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] (Who probably don't even go." [00:09] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] But, convincing companies you don't go to, to piss off their actual customers, and ruin themselves, is sort of his specialty. [00:10] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I think the latest thing at Disney was you can't depict pirates auctioning off a woman. [00:10] techrights-bot Linux 5.13-rc6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152257 [00:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Piracy is being reframed as a good thing. [00:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anti-establishment [00:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] BLM is a pirate group. If they did what they did at sea it would fall under sea piracy. [00:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] even hollywood lobbies expressed concerns about thata [00:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gn [00:12] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I'm not pirating movies. I'm getting reparations for them benefiting from my tax money while they pay none. [00:14] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] "piracy" was always a good thing [00:15] BaronVladimirHar I doubt any blacks are actually outraged about Song of the South. [00:16] BaronVladimirHar It was more likely mjg59 getting offended for them. [00:16] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] somebody asked something for me in here? i was taking a nap [00:16] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] it has been a little warm during the day, so i have been sleeping during the day [00:17] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] Ariadne: leah had some issues with registering a NickServ account -- it seems like she ended up registered and identified without her knowledge [00:18] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i tried to guess how it happened, but i don't know ergo well [00:18] BaronVladimirHar Turn on the air conditioner. [00:18] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol [00:18] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] MinceR: likely the ircv3 REGISTER extension [00:18] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] yeah, that definitely sounds like something i was unaware of :> [00:27] tr-bridge [leah/tr] yeah i'm already registered [00:27] tr-bridge [leah/tr] but i didn't register [00:27] tr-bridge [leah/tr] so i don't know my password [00:28] tr-bridge [leah/tr] i think basically as soon as you name to a given nick, that nick becomes registered [00:28] tr-bridge [leah/tr] ah, maybe.... maybe if i'm already registered, i can simply change my password? [00:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] leah: If the client supplied the password then it has to have it. [00:38] *ttk (~ttk@194.44.96.82) has joined #techrights [00:38] ttk /!\ THSCL HASEDTILIRACHT #ARAO /! [00:38] ttk ! HJEWSHAVETOR FREE,HTAVE T IR.IBERAHAT\ [00:38] ttk / HMADT.ISCHN SMOEBERATHAMAI \ [00:38] ttk THI FICILLY ENDS MAGS UGH TO YUBYLBE.ASAF [00:38] *MinceR sets mode +m #techrights [00:38] *MinceR sets ban on *!*@194.44.96.82 [00:38] *MinceR has kicked ttk from #techrights (die) [00:38] *MinceR sets mode -m #techrights [00:38] *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights $~a [00:39] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] testing [00:40] *MinceR removes ban on *!*@194.44.96.82 [00:40] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:45] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] they're actually back? with the same message no less? [00:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] indeed. [00:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] they've been doing this to other networks in the intervening time ● Jun 14 [01:06] *r7 (2e8efc4f@79-252-142-46.pool.kielnet.net) has joined #techrights [01:07] *activelow (~aggi@gateway/tor-sasl/aggi) has joined #techrights [01:14] *phanes has quit (*.net *.split) [01:14] *v8 has quit (*.net *.split) [01:19] *bagira (~bagira@2600:3c04::f03c:92ff:fe10:4cc3) has joined #techrights [01:20] *bagira is now known as Guest67954 [01:29] *Rristotle (~Rristotle@cpe9050cadb6333-cm9050cadb6330.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #techrights [01:29] *Rristotle has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:39] *Guest67954 has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *birkoff has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *wallacer_ has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *techrights-ipfs has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *techrights-bot has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *asusbox has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *tr-bridge has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *esaym153 has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *BaronVladimirHa4 has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *downey[m] has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *BifrostBot[m] has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *psydroid has quit (*.net *.split) [01:39] *viera has quit (*.net *.split) [01:41] *bagira_ (~bagira@2600:3c04::f03c:92ff:fe10:4cc3) has joined #techrights [01:43] *bagira_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:44] *phanes (~bagira@freenode/staff/phanes) has joined #techrights [01:44] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [01:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: I think there was a netsplit on freenode? [01:44] *phanes has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:44] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Is the bridge okay now? [01:44] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:45] *phanes (~bagira@freenode/staff/phanes) has joined #techrights [01:46] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [01:47] MinceR there was a netsplit, the bridge seems ok [01:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-152-238-39.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:59] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-238-39.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jun 14 [02:05] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I restarted it just in case. [02:07] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Okay, and now I can't see anything in here on Matrix. [02:07] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] This is swell. Thanks to Liberal Chat this whole thing is fucked. [02:08] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: Matrix got netsplitted [02:09] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] DaemonFC: And putting sole blame on them is something I strongly disagree with. 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[03:22] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] But it's not easy managing a big network, and instead of making a smooth transition the new staff and rasengan have decided that they want things to go their way. [03:24] *r7 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [03:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Was it so hard to maintain the status quo for like two months, to familiarise with the network, to overcome challenges and get experience? Instead they almost immediately started messing with things. [03:25] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:26] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Libera cannot be blamed for freenode under rasengan shooting itself in foot time and time again making participants justifiably feel unsafe. [03:29] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] And so it will fade into obscurity and techrights will stop having a Matrix presence permanently. 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[05:58] *variable (~root@freebsd/developer/variable) has joined #techrights [05:59] *variable (~root@freebsd/developer/variable) has left #techrights ("Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com") ● Jun 14 [06:11] gustaf XRevan86: I think it's importatn to note that "IRC" hsa many subcultures, and Freenode was one. It was more stable, more mature etc etc. Sounds like Lee was more used to the more anarchic forms of IRC [06:16] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ is the last bit of reporting i intend to do on this irc shit [06:17] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] as far as im concerned freenode is done as for its original purpose [06:17] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] you cant back away from kicking the FSF off the network [06:17] *phanes (~bagira@freenode/staff/phanes) has joined #techrights [06:18] *bagira has quit (*.net *.split) [06:18] *v8 has quit (*.net *.split) [06:18] *techrights-bot (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c824:5389:820:fbe3) has joined #techrights [06:20] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] projects should have self hosted from the start [06:20] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] had projects hosted their own IRC environments this would never have happened [06:22] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Mozilla did and then they shut it down to move to Matrix.org, where their users can be banned easily and for no reason. [06:24] phanes nah this still would have been an inevitability [06:24] phanes the core problem is crossover authority [06:24] phanes people with what's called a high "betweenness centrality" [06:25] *alynpost_ (~alynpost@irc.prgmr.com) has joined #techrights [06:25] phanes if you don't take the narcissist and ego problems in your communities seriously you will always have power struggles [06:25] phanes and its never good for the users [06:25] phanes sure you guys deal with non-authorities with those problems sometimes but its the people in charge that you don't hold accountable that are behind the problems that come up there [06:26] phanes you've all got to be willing to take hits and losses to remove those kinds of people [06:26] *alynpost has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [06:26] tr-bridge [job/tr] phanes: I thought you support the FSF? [06:26] phanes i do support the FSF [06:26] tr-bridge [job/tr] It seems you just supported RMS in order to gain glory to yourself [06:27] phanes well that's a shitty thing to say to someone [06:28] phanes RMS has his flaws, but the GPL is the reason we don't have to swipe our credit cards to log into our PC's. It is foundational to just about everything we know and love. [06:28] phanes What I'd like to see is him set up some kind of assurance of perepetuity of the GPL that does not depend on him so he can retire. [06:29] phanes That way if he gets hit by a bus or something we don't have to get facebook's approval to continue development [06:30] phanes And my issue with the anti-RMS campaign was more or less surrounding the nature of the campaign itself -- its methods, its modes of operation, the deliberate lying and smearing of someone's reputation in a formula that has been used too many times to not now result in serious consequences for the people who execute it. [06:33] phanes It is a vulnerability in western society that is being repeatedly exploited at great harm. [06:36] *techrights-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:37] *techrights-bot (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c824:5389:820:fbe3) has joined #techrights [06:40] *cubeman_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:41] *rianne_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:42] phanes So much so that it is being weaponized for corporate interest. [06:42] phanes You need to stop these people and you need to create social structures that prevent them from hurting people anymore. [06:42] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [06:42] phanes If someone were to outline a plan that crosses foss projects to stop this type of thing that was credible and that I believed I could rely on I would immediately resign. [06:42] phanes Open challenge. Mull it over. 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[06:52] schestowitz [01:43] CrystalMath: cool stuff in ##sqlite %) [06:52] schestowitz Lost in the netsplit, am comparing... [06:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] OK, I think only those two lined did not make it across the bridge, I have checked all the rest ● Jun 14 [07:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] netsplit'ed logs compared, twice over even. I had to rerun some jobs and do lots of things manually because of all this turbulence.... took nearly half an hour [07:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] uploading the new ipfs index now [07:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Updated http://techrights.org/ipfs/bulletins.html [07:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Over a megabyte of logs yesterday http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130621.html [07:14] schestowitz ipfs working again, but some IRC messages were missed. hopefully all back to normal tonight/next run [07:20] gustaf phanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channel [07:21] gustaf that's the value Freenode provided: a drama free place to discuss free software [07:21] schestowitz I know what you mean [07:21] schestowitz I lost so many hours this past month [07:21] schestowitz I just want to cover patent things [07:21] schestowitz not mess around with bots and things and check IRC things [07:22] gustaf yeah, I'm a user, not someone in a role of responsibility, and it's still been stressful [07:22] gustaf if, also, entertaining in a weird way [07:22] gustaf but I feel sorry for those who just want ot manage communities [07:23] schestowitz well, you say entertaining [07:23] schestowitz because you are not a direct stakeholder [07:23] schestowitz only indirect [07:23] gustaf phanes: ys [07:23] gustaf dang [07:23] schestowitz for me, personally, TONS of time down the drain [07:23] schestowitz and for some free software project lost time coding [07:23] gustaf schestowitz: I understand, and I sympathize [07:23] schestowitz for me also publishing of articles [07:23] schestowitz I am starting to write at the moment [07:23] gustaf I don't try to stir shit for the sake of more drama [07:24] schestowitz I spent the past 60 minutes just doing damage control from this overnight issue [07:24] schestowitz but like I said before, self-hosting IRC was an ambition since last year [07:24] schestowitz before all the drama [07:24] schestowitz inc. freenode staff signing an RMS hate letter [07:26] activelow ironically the new jurisdiction chosen in sweden could prevent such a defamation campaign [07:26] gustaf schestowitz: that "drama" had zero impact on me or the channels I frequented at Freenode [07:26] schestowitz not sure aboyt that [07:26] gustaf this HN comment says it best https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497168 [07:26] schestowitz the issue was not defamation [07:27] gustaf ``I don't think the people leaving are doing so because of who is in charge (modulo random channel seizures). They're leaving because because they don't want to worry about who is in charge.'' [07:27] activelow since in sweden spreading defamation with the intend to harm a person, his family and busines is illegal, even if based on facts [07:27] schestowitz the issue was a control-related dispute [07:27] gustaf activelow: what case is this? [07:28] schestowitz hmmm... why is the links bot not working? [07:28] schestowitz another thing to investigate [07:28] activelow gustaf: i didn't follow the RMS drama since i am not interested in gossip. i had only noticed swedish legislation which applied with the newly founded network would sanction such a defamation campaign [07:32] gustaf I;m a Swede and I don't agree with that assessment [07:33] gustaf defamation is hard to prove in Sweden [07:33] gustaf especially against a public figure like RMS [07:33] gustaf anyway, the status of an IRC network as a "publication" in Swedish law is nebulous [07:34] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [07:34] gustaf i have a really hard time imagining how the status of the the Libera "foundation" as an "ideell frening" could in any way facilitate any sort of defamation campaign against anyone [07:34] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-bot techrights-ipfs TechrightsBot-tr [07:35] schestowitz test http://example.org [07:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-example.org | Example Domain [07:35] schestowitz OK, I think MinceR put rules in place [07:35] gustaf it's just a legal person holding the rights to the name etc [07:35] schestowitz anyway, I could use a break from this drama... doing an article about Hungary ATM [07:36] gustaf afk [07:51] schestowitz MinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 6: Best Buddies With Antnio | Techrights ● Jun 14 [08:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "I got banned from #slackware in like 5 minutes or something. I pleaded for forgiveness, in the way redolent of a middle schooler. And eventually, I got unbanned and stuck around for a while. That was my first experience with IRC." [08:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ [08:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the end of freenode Ariadne's Space [08:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so ariadne is younger than I assumed [08:04] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think I was 13 or 14 when I accessed dalnet [08:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] with a bunch of idiots doing floods and abuse every now and then [08:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and with colour support [08:05] gustaf I only started using IRC in my early 30s [08:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "For a few years, all was well, until the end of July 2002, when DALnet started being the target of Distributed Denial of Service attacks. We would of course, later find out that these attacks were at the request of Jason Michael Downey (Nessun), who had just launched a competing IRC network called Rizon." [08:05] gustaf and I understand Freenode was much calmer than early IRC [08:06] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I may need to rewrite my code to be more robust to IRC downtimes [08:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] as happened last night in freenode [08:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: gm [08:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] nice blog post [08:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] am reading it rn [08:07] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/8-Ficsor-Lecture-2010.ppt [08:08] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] (ppt warning) [08:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "In early 2006, lilo launched his Spinhome project. Spinhome was a fundraising effort so that lilo could get a mobile home to replace the double-wide trailer he had been living in. Some people saw him trying to fundraise while being the owner of freenode as a conflict of interest, which lead to a falling out with a lot of staffers, projects, etc. OFTC went from being a small n [08:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] etwork to a much larger network during this time." [08:09] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] didn't know OFTC was that old [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think our objective should be to make more IRCd installs [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then make better ways to connect them [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] a sort of "fediverse" of IRC [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] scrollback is another challenge [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because of the relay nature [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] nntp doesn't have that issue either [08:10] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we now have http://techrights.org/irc [08:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so if people drop offline for whatever reason they can catch up with what was missed [08:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] " [08:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Self-hosting is really what makes IRC great: you can run your own server for your community and not be beholden to anyone else. As far as IRC goes, thats the future I feel motivated to build. [08:11] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] This concludes my coverage of the freenode meltdown. I hope people enjoyed it and also understand why freenode was important to me: without lilos decision to take a chance on a dumbfuck kid like myself, I wouldnt have ever really gotten as deeply involved in FOSS as I have, so to see what has happened has left me heartbroken. [08:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] " [08:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yes, self-hosting is the way forward [08:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] servers are very powerful now compared to ircd [08:12] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so even a little vps or sbc can do [08:22] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 52.11 swarm size (avg): 244.94 [08:39] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152260 [08:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:40] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Free Software Security, ActivityWatch, Linus Torvalds, and GNU World Order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152259 [08:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Free Software Security, ActivityWatch, Linus Torvalds, and GNU World Order | Tux Machines [08:58] techrights-bot #LinuxActionNews 193 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145292/linux-action-news-193/ #gnu #linux [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 193 | Jupiter Broadcasting [08:58] techrights-bot 2008 #EPO video, predating the Benot #Battistelli EPO regime Classic: Old EPO Strike http://techrights.org/2021/06/13/classic-old-epo-strike/ #Techrights #patents #swpats | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/13/classic-old-epo-strike/ [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Classic: Old EPO Strike | Techrights [08:58] techrights-bot Virtual Injustice Part 6: Best Buddies With #AntnioCampinos http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ #epo #europe #hungary #euipo [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 6: Best Buddies With Antnio | Techrights [08:59] techrights-bot "Josh and Kurt talk about why it seems like the world of #ransomware has gotten out of control in the last few weeks. Every day theres some new and more bizarre ransomware story than we had yesterday." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/06/13/episode-275-what-in-the-is-going-on-with-ransomware/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 275 What in the @#$% is going on with ransomware? Open Source Security [08:59] techrights-bot the end of #freenode https://ariadne.space/2021/06/14/the-end-of-freenode/ reflections on #irc ... tl;dr people/proejcts/orgs should #selfHost IRC. [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadne.space | the end of freenode Ariadne's Space [08:59] techrights-bot #Softwarepatents #litigation #profiteer #MichaelBorella is losing his mind because #fakepatents that USPTO should never have granted get tossed out (expensive, but justice at the end) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/06/yu-v-apple-fed-cir-2021.html [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Yu v. Apple (Fed. Cir. 2021) ● Jun 14 [09:00] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, June 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:00] techrights-bot Bas Nieuwenhuizen: Making Reading from #VRAM less Catastrophic https://www.basnieuwenhuizen.nl/making-reading-from-vram-less-catastrophic/ #linux #graphics #mesa #programming [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.basnieuwenhuizen.nl | Making Reading from VRAM less Catastrophic Bas Nieuwenhuizen Open Source GPU Drivers [09:00] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:01] techrights-bot Benot Battistelli, Antnio Campinos, and the Hungarian link of the EPO http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ #Techrights #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ [09:05] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/irc-log-130621/#comments #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/irc-log-130621/#comments [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 13, 2021 | Techrights [09:07] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152261 [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [09:08] techrights-bot "This case centred about language requirements. Indeed, the applicant had filed for a patent with the European Patents Office on December 15, 2014, using the German language." https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/from-the-bench-mind-your-patent-language.877313 http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofmalta.com | From the bench: Mind your (patent) language [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [09:11] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] i had a look at matrix and noticed that rooms are decentralized. That seems pretty strange to me. I would think rooms would be hosted on servers. Because they are decentralized they have to follow a particular moderation algorithm that all servers agree on [09:11] techrights-bot I don't want to perpetuate any #irc wars (it's already chaotic enough as it is!). If you heard about the #freenode #fsf thing, here's the raw stuff for you to decide based upon: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/fsf-channel-canceled.txt and http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txt [09:11] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] otherwise they will desync [09:12] techrights-bot The last thing I want to do is any further article/video about IRC. If #irc calms down as a whole, I'll be able to investigate and write about important things like #swpats and #freesw instead. That's the goal. The past month has been SUPER-UNPRODUCTIVE. [09:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: I am not so familiar with matrix, but I know they ban many rooms and people [09:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and when I say "they" I don't even know who I refer to [09:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] maybe each project/org needs to have its own room/channel [09:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not project.slack dot com [09:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not discord whatever they call 'channels' [09:14] activelow i am surprised the freenode drama with prince Lee involved caused so much drama, meanwhile yet another Mr. Lee of Korean telecom was installed as head of ITU-T (in 2015 already!) [09:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not org at irc.IRCgiant.org/net.com [09:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Lee is a very common name there [09:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Lee, Park, Kim... [09:15] activelow nonetheless [09:15] activelow Korean Telecom Mr. Lee head of ITU-T [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like Nguyen in Vietnam area [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] iirc, about 60% of the population [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I once even dated a Nguyen [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Lee is also a common surname here in the UK [09:16] activelow this one was remarkable too: https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/ [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | Reuters [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that makes it hard to 'google' [09:16] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] too many Lees and Nguyens [09:17] gustaf schestowitz: the reason people / orgs congregate to centralized services is discoverability [09:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I don't think Andrew Lee is incompetent [09:17] gustaf super-easy to find another subreddit [09:17] activelow which one schestowitz ? [09:17] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the problem is, he can only get very incompetent people to work for him now [09:17] activelow Mr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T? [09:17] gustaf onboarding on IRC is different, especially when it comes to registering to Nickserv etc [09:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] discoverability is overrated [09:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's "discoverability" until the service goes offline [09:18] gustaf that's an opinion, sure [09:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] for business reasons, censorship, sanctions [09:18] gustaf most people just want to connect and/or make money [09:18] activelow the telecom Mr. Lee was leading research about "IPTV", which i question was relevant qualification for ITU-T [09:18] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "lee" is a super common name [09:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there must be many millions in china with that name [09:19] gustaf the risk assessment that what you say can get you banned is far from people's minds [09:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] aside from US/UK/Canada and Korea [09:19] gustaf it certainly was for me, on Freenode... [09:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Andrew is also a common name [09:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] there are thousands of people called Andrew Lee in the UK I reckon [09:19] activelow yet this too sheds some light on the cowardice and hypocrisy of USA business entities, such as Netflix who generate bubble cash of billions - with IPTV which is the business of Mr. Lee [09:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] some would be famous [09:20] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] gustaf: because people assume about themselves that they are good and benign [09:20] gustaf I guess being Crown Prince is a distinguishing factor then :D [09:20] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's a made up title [09:20] activelow do you have any idea what it means if Korean Telecom installed Mr. Lee as head of ITU-T??? [09:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 63.48 swarm size (avg): 245.00 [09:21] activelow ITU-T is by far the oldest international unition nations institutions, and probably the most important one too [09:21] gustaf sure but the title is "unique" [09:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] There might be like a million Koreans called Lee [09:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] or hundreds of thousands [09:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's meaningless [09:21] gustaf afk for now [09:21] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that title is associated with a murderous Saudi [09:22] activelow united nations, in the hands of Korean Telecom [09:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] SK is good at Internet [09:22] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they have the world's fastest [09:22] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: matrix is federated [09:23] activelow schestowitz: "Internet" is NOT telco protocol domain [09:23] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] it is trying to be the federated IRC that you want [09:23] activelow telco operates backbone with protocols rarely heard of [09:23] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] (but over HTTP because ??) [09:23] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] bloat [09:24] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] still it is a thing that exists and that you could interoperate with instead of reinventing [09:24] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] because it has a significant user base [09:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] some people think it's innovation to make everything as a web page [09:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] even if one day the web will go away [09:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like flash did [09:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] after 20+ years [09:25] activelow some people think "IPTV" is innovative, hance Mr. Lee is head of ITU-T [09:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] IPTV is not news [09:25] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] IPTV is innovative if you are running a network [09:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's just TV done over IP :-) [09:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] TCP/IP [09:25] activelow *hence [09:25] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] IPTV allows you to use the same cable for TV and Internet without weird fixed-function analog electronics [09:25] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] i doubt it uses TCP [09:26] activelow i know what it is, and it is crap, technological crap [09:26] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable? [09:26] activelow which exists since some corrupt corporation can generate cash with it, hundreds of billions [09:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] TV cable stuff could already do "on demand" [09:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] TV channels are obsolete anyway [09:26] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: probably with something like IPTV [09:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I only hear about several of them shutting down [09:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] lack of budget, too small an audience, no advertisers [09:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and people love skipping ads [09:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] TV cannot do that [09:27] activelow anyway, since yesterday G7 are meeting, when discussing relations with China/Korea they disconnected internet, due to sensivitivy of the matters at hand [09:27] activelow doesn't surprise me given the fact head of ITU-T (LeeCom) operates it [09:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] people can take note and post later [09:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] or record [09:27] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] activelow: what is your suggestion for delivering TV and Internet over the same cable? [09:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] do we even need TV anymore? [09:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] i stopped watching TV over 20 years ago [09:28] activelow immibis: IPTV is unicast on-demand streaming via TCP(SCTP)/IP -> which is technical crap and doesn't require replacement [09:28] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] since then I've been hearing of more who do the same [09:28] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] us not watching TV is one reason there's so much conspiracy nonsense, oddly enough [09:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not really [09:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] TV also spreads BS [09:29] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] at least when everyone watched the same mostly-factual news every night it kept us all on a common grounding [09:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the issue is not "the Internet" [09:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the Internet has good and bad [09:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] social control media = bad [09:29] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] there is no covid-doesn't-exist channel [09:29] activelow i didn't say TV, i referred to IPTV which Mr. LeeCom had expertise to lead ITU-T [09:29] activelow which is ridiculous [09:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] is there any connection to Andrew Lee? [09:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if not, how is this relevant? [09:30] activelow YES [09:30] activelow i am saying LeeNode is a child's playground in comparison to ITU-T and international telco business, and this https://www.reuters.com/technology/huawei-founder-urges-software-push-counter-us-sanctions-2021-05-24/ [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Huawei founder urges shift to software to counter U.S. sanctions | Reuters [09:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] [09:17] Mr. Lee of Freenode or Mr. Lee of Telecom head of ITU-T? [09:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no connection afaik [09:31] activelow schestowitz: you may self-host IRC service, you cannot operate your own telco backbone [09:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I know [09:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that's a known limitation I always speak aboyt [09:31] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but if UK ISPs stop disconnecting people for political reasons, it would entail HUGE blowback [09:32] activelow imagine if LeeCom similar to LeeNode begins to hijack and disconnect? [09:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *start [09:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you call it LeeNode but you use it right now [09:32] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] activelow: I wish there were more community ISPs, I actually researched starting one but then some company said they'd pay me 3 times the money to move halfway across the world [09:32] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] although it "LeeNode" bothered you, then you would connect to this channel over irc.techrights.org [09:33] activelow I wished Telco had not been privatized [09:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Manchester (here) had efforts at local meshes around 2004 [09:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] of course governments hate that [09:33] activelow btw. KabelDeutschland too was "sold", as was entire German Telecom "sold" [09:33] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they want to be in control and see everything [09:33] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] of course nobody can operate a *backbone* without running thousands of km of fiber, but they don't have to be the same companies that own your home connection [09:33] activelow into the hands of i wouldn't want to namecall [09:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] one of our clients at work deals with monitoring "assets" like backbones [09:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and those are massive projects [09:34] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: did they try to comply with regulations? i know in NZ there are a couple of requirements like you have to register and you have to have a system to let the police wiretap if they have a warrant. The rest of the law is just boring paperwork about dispute resolution [09:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you will never have a community laying underwater cables [09:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and maintaining them with submarines and stuff [09:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] tough reality [09:35] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] things like submarine cables are literally why corporations were invented [09:35] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] millions of people chip in a little bit of money to get something huge done [09:35] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] (or thousands, or hundreds) [09:35] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] and then those people are the shareholders [09:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] running a local mesh is fine, but for INTERNATIONAL operations you need the underwater cables or satellite (if the community can crowdfound rockets and stuff to launch satellites) [09:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and even then it would rely on agencies that work to prevent collisions [09:36] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] has anyone been censored by a backbone in a stable western democracy? [09:36] activelow ITU-T business covers more than cabling, it is an entire separate protocol stack [09:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not yet [09:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but Russia did some things [09:36] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like cutting off nations [09:36] activelow an international/intercontinental SYNCHRONOUS circuit switched network [09:36] activelow which is why an expert in IPTV becoming head of ITU-T is ridiculous [09:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anyway, you are talking about the lowest common denominator here [09:37] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like diverting software freedom debates to whether you can manufacture chips at home [09:37] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] i wouldn't worry about russia cutting off nations yet. get the easy things first. you will never stop russia arresting the people who try to connect to whatever country [09:37] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] without replacing russia with a democracy [09:38] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] unless you are in russia and capable of organizing a million people to protest you cannot do that [09:38] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] ("protest" may or may not include "behead Mr Putin") [09:38] techrights-bot "The JDBC project is proud to announce the latest version 42.2.21." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-42221-released-2238/ #PostgreSQL #JDBC [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.2.21 Released [09:39] activelow why distract to russia? it is Netflix among other corrupt entities in USA who cash in billions, and agitate for sanctions in parallel [09:39] activelow Netflix generates cash, and US administration agitates for sanctions against LeeCorp??? [09:39] techrights-bot Claudio Cambra: First week of Google Summer of Code 2021 https://claudiocambra.com/2021/06/14/first-week-of-google-summer-of-code-2021/ #kde #gsoc #gulag #alphabet [09:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | First week of Google Summer of Code 2021 Claudio Cambra [09:40] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] you're gonna reeee about a megacorp and of all the megacorps, you chose frickin *netflix* to reeee against? [09:40] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] how about microsoft or blackrock or citadel capital or disney? [09:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I am not sure they're even truly proftable [09:40] activelow Netflix because King Lee of ITU-T was researching IPTV [09:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] just a DRM empire [09:40] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] clogging up networks [09:41] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] Netflix is a puppet of Disney, they have to be or else they don't get to show any movies. [09:41] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] Netflix is oppressed by copyright just like you are [09:41] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] disney says lick our boots or don't exist and they have to do it [09:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I feel bad for people who rely on DRMflix [09:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's awful [09:41] activelow i am not oppressed by copyright, in fact i comply with it and welcome it [09:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and they get to keep nothing they pay for [09:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] used and discarded [09:42] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] disney says you have to have shitty DRM or don't exist, and they have to do it [09:42] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] netflix is not the problem here [09:42] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] DRM is imposed by copyright holders [09:42] activelow anyway, it is remarkable that G7 meeting had to disconnect internet connections during their talks... uhum (LeeCom in control secretly monitoring/spying?) [09:42] techrights-bot The term "change management" has become another management buzzword. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/change-management-4-ways-cios-can-lead [09:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 ways CIOs can lead change management now | The Enterprisers Project [09:43] activelow and there is hundreds of billions of cash at stack, international stock exchange all that [09:43] activelow *stake [09:43] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] matrix's moderation features are really bad [09:43] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] you can't ban specific homeservers from joining your rooms outright [09:44] techrights-bot "Sachin is a former software developer at Google and Microsoft, and now" writes for #ibm #redhat x-| https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/6/it-career-how-speed-up-career-path [09:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | When IT careers stall: 5 tips to jump-start progress | The Enterprisers Project [09:44] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [09:45] techrights-bot 6 hours ago: "So when I was at IBM, Golden Circle was the top award and you could take someone with you. 100% club was just you and some peers, and #IBM would send you somewhere for 3 nights." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bjfb0lj#replies [09:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Best of IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] too much federation can also be ban [09:47] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] Ariadne: and that is probably caused by the decentralized nature of rooms, right? If rooms were hosted on servers, the servers could be modified to change how the rooms work, but with decentralized rooms they all have to agree [09:47] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] federation needs to come in moderation, as in moderate level [09:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you don't invite biker gangs to your christening parties [09:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you don't want MAGA hat wearers in Biden inauguration [09:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] social control media is based on false assumptions [09:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's pooling together people who really ought not bother with one another [09:48] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and this only contributes to polarity, not dialogue [09:49] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] echo chambers also contribute to polarity [09:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] with bbs, irc etc. you limit who speaks to whom and sees what [09:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] same in newsgroups, email/mailing lists [09:49] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] otherwise you end up shouting down anti-vaxers in linux kernel mailing lists (lkml) [09:49] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] immibis: *@homeserver.tld bans could be included in the ACL [09:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: the networks aren't designed to bridge [09:50] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] but i guess that would require another room version [09:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] it's not profitable [09:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the hashtags are designed to provoke and sell ads by increasing 'screen time' [09:50] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] (they are in ophion) [09:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] we need to accept that some people do need "Space" [09:50] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] to keep on topics and not fight all the time [09:50] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: if you don't confront the anti-vaxxers they grow. [09:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] even fediverse became full of shit people [09:51] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] until 60% of the population is anti-vax and they vote to make vax illegal [09:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] with their disgusting instances [09:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] even people on the "Right" can't stand it [09:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and limit which instances they federate with [09:51] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] people on the right could never stand it. The right always had the biggest echo chambers and censorship [09:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] anti-vaxxers are few [09:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but people are painted with a broad brush [09:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and then they start labeling people who reject just one product with that same brush [09:52] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] you need to understand Internet misinformation [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and how to combat it, usually by educating people [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] critical thinking [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that's not taught anymore, in the US at least [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they have time to teach bible [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] (fiction) [09:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but no lessons on critical and sceptical thinking [09:53] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] you are saying to just cut ourselves off from the non-critical-thinkers. That is not an effective way to teach them critical thinking [09:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Twitter is a boatload of nuts [09:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] no, I think they thrive in bad sites [09:54] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] immibis: is it really my job to educate people with bad faith arguments on critical thinking, though? [09:54] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] it is everyone's job. Otherwise they flourish [09:54] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] that are good for people looking to spread looney stuff [09:54] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] true [09:54] activelow for CV19 alone several dozens of vaccines exist, iirc 5 of them were certified... how many vax shots you want each year? [09:54] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] too bad it doesn't actually work [09:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] like @realDonaldTrimp [09:55] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] teaching critical thinking that is. Not vaccines. Vaccines work. [09:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Nigeria did something courageous [09:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they just cut off that shit [09:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they need to do the same to FB [09:55] activelow furthermore the recommended vaccine as precaution was pneumococces, the shot Queen Merkel received March 2020 already [09:55] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] in Nigeria's case, it's about control of the media [09:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because a foreign for-profit corporation meddled in their politics [09:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] nigeria needs its own platforms [09:57] techrights-bot NEWS #DataSwamp How to use Tor only for onion addresses in a web browser https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-06-12-tor-web-browser-onion.html [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene's percent % : How to use Tor only for onion addresses in a web browser [09:57] techrights-bot NEWS #JulienTinnes A few thoughts on Fuchsia security https://blog.cr0.org/2021/06/a-few-thoughts-on-fuchsia-security.html [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cr0.org | cr0 blog: A few thoughts on Fuchsia security [09:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] nigeria can then ban #bokoharam or whatever [09:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] if they're designated as terror group [09:58] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] not ask some foreign company to do that [09:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but Nigeria is not big technologically [09:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so a lot gets outsourced [09:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they have Sahara Reporter [09:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and some blogs [09:59] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but no big tech companies ● Jun 14 [10:01] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #G7 agrees to fight forced labor, ransomware, corruption https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558182-g-7-agrees-to-fight-forced-labor-ransomware-corruption [10:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-G-7 agrees to fight forced labor, ransomware, corruption | TheHill [10:02] techrights-bot Like the previous, one #Microsoft #Windows TCO and #ProprietarySoftware US, Russia Spar on Cyberattacks Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit https://www.voanews.com/europe/us-russia-spar-cyberattacks-ahead-biden-putin-summit [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | US, Russia Spar on Cyberattacks Ahead of Biden-Putin Summit | Voice of America - English [10:02] techrights-bot NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware #VW says data breach at vendor impacted 3.3 million people in North America https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/vw-says-data-breach-at-vendor-impacted-3-3-million-people-in-north-america/83453239 [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | VW says data breach at vendor: VW says data breach at vendor impacted 3.3 million people in North America, IT News, ET CIO [10:04] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz is now recommending removing free speech? [10:04] techrights-bot #helsinkitimes misusing words like "pirates" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/19389-2-9-million-pirates-in-the-nordics.html can we substitue the word "politician" with "rapist"? Or "cannibal"? [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/science-and-technology/19389-2-9-million-pirates-in-the-nordics.html ) [10:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: of terror groups that behead people, yes [10:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they violate laws [10:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they should not only be censored [10:05] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but tracked, detained, prosecuted [10:06] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] failing that, kill them (if capture is not possible, like in Boko Haram's case) [10:09] techrights-bot #overpopulation http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/overpopulation RMS chastised for bring up an issue he deems possibly more urgent than #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/06/11/rms-brazil-chat/ [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sf-encyclopedia.com | Themes : Overpopulation : SFE : Science Fiction Encyclopedia [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conversation With Richard Stallman in Brazil, May 31st 2021 | Techrights [10:10] techrights-bot Latest #dilbert https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-06-13 [10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Non Disclosure Denied - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-06-13 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [10:11] techrights-bot iophk: lots of #microsoft spam leading up to the vista n+1 release in a few weeks [10:15] techrights-bot #google #europe aka #fsfe ... useful when it comes to #privacy https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106403531816434909 they need to stop calling themselves "FSFE" http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "This? Oh, its just the president of the FSFE (wh" - Arals Mastodon [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights [10:15] techrights-bot "Hi there! As a #blind screen reader user, I would really appreciate it if you'd take the time to #captionyourimages as it would really help with #accessibility " https://dragonscave.space/@Superfreq/106389969433136712 [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dragonscave.space | Superfreq: "@pixelfed@mastodon.social Hi there! As a #blind " - The Dragon's Cave [10:17] techrights-bot "It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took his own life. Aaron had been charged with 13 felonies under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) for violating the terms of service on the JSTOR database of scholarly articles." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/106353191199525711 [10:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "It's been eight years since Aaron Swartz took his" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr [10:19] techrights-bot The #geminiProtocol capsule of #techrights is even more blind people-friendly than the Web site. And AFAIK, that Web site is already very screen readers-friendly. Don't ever think like, "who cares!!!! There's so few of them anyway..." [10:19] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] bbiab, exercise [10:31] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] i thought techrights was a free speech thing [10:50] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [10:55] techrights-bot Suffice to say (in 2021 it should be obvious), you cannot judge a distro's popularity or userbase just based on number of downloads. Nowadays some companies download it once, then deploy it to thousands of machines or millions of devices, then sell those devices. [10:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: not if you are Boko Haram [10:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] then it's good they speak out [10:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] so they can be detected, tracked, arrested [10:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] death threats as a similar thing [10:56] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] so free speech only for the people i like [10:57] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] you know who else only wants free speech for people they like? just about everyone. boko haram probably wishes you didn't have free speech [10:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] boko haram is a violent terror group [10:57] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] they don't care about free speech ● Jun 14 [11:00] techrights-bot NEWS #Stuff #Privacy #Surveillance Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan #socialcontrolmedia activity https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/300332547/police-tightlipped-on-tools-used-to-scan-social-media-activity [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.stuff.co.nz | Police tight-lipped on tools used to scan social media activity | Stuff.co.nz [11:01] techrights-bot NEWS #NBC #Transparency ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system better https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/propublica-s-report-tax-inequality-could-hurt-biden-s-push-ncna1270537 [11:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Leslie Book: ProPublica's report on tax inequality could hurt Biden's push to make the system better [11:02] techrights-bot NEWS #TheEconomist #Misinformation #Disinformation #China says it will be a museum power by 2035 https://www.economist.com/china/2021/06/12/china-says-it-will-be-a-museum-power-by-2035 [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China says it will be a museum power by 2035 | The Economist [11:06] techrights-bot NEWS #Quillette #Censorship Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? https://quillette.com/2021/06/13/why-is-the-society-for-american-archaeology-promoting-indigenous-creationism/ [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Is the Society for American Archaeology Promoting Indigenous Creationism? Quillette [11:06] techrights-bot NEWS #TheHindu #Censorship Censorship by noise https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/Readers-Editor/censorship-by-noise/article34805755.ece [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Censorship by noise - The Hindu [11:10] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.104) has joined #techrights [11:14] *WinterStar has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:17] *WinterStar (WinterStar@gateway/vpn/mullvad/winterstar) has joined #techrights [11:19] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: they want themselves to have free speech, and other people not to, presumably [11:20] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:21] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 38.90 swarm size (avg): 245.06 [11:38] *Hmmmmm18 (5d56985a@93-86-152-90.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined #techrights [11:38] *Hmmmmm18 has quit (Client Quit) [11:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] immibis: look up what Boko Haram is [11:56] *mmu_man (~revol@pf02.yziact.net) has joined #techrights [11:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think you might think you know but do not know [11:56] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] since the context here was Nigeria [11:58] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] techrights isn't really a "free speech" zone ● Jun 14 [12:00] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: ok but they still want themselves to have free speech. (if you're a member but you say speech they don't approve of, you're no longer a member) [12:00] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] everyone wants themselves to have free speech and their enemies to not [12:06] techrights-bot NEWS #VOANews #PressFreedom Highly Offensive Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/highly-offensive-gag-orders-media-subpoena-cases-lawyer-says [12:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Highly Offensive Gag Orders in Media Subpoena Cases, Lawyer Says | Voice of America - English [12:07] techrights-bot NEWS #Gannett #CivilRights Trial reveals federal agents falsely accused a UT professor born in #China of spying https://eu.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/14/federal-agents-falsely-accused-university-of-tennessee-professor-spying-china/7649378002/ [12:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.knoxnews.com | Federal agents falsely accused UT professor of spying for China [12:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: the question was, can terror groups be treated as a non-issue for platforms [12:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and my answer is, no [12:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] because we have laws against that, for starters... [12:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] irrespective of our opinions [12:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and I most support >those< laws [12:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] recruiting people to kill people is a problem [12:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I don't object to laws that objectively can save lives [12:14] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] "I WILL KILL YOU" isn't protected by "free speech" [12:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] or "looking for assassin" [12:21] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:21] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:22] activelow it needs to be distinguished what is referred to with "platform" 1) carrier network (telco) 2) ISP access line 3) service providers (IRC) [12:23] activelow then who and what is acted upon such as surveillance at the source (tapping individual computers) or monitoring the network infra or monitoring services etc [12:24] activelow and all this has nasty political, legal and technical implications [12:25] activelow often politicians seek MASS surveillance while individual surveillance is indicated [12:27] activelow btw. my nonsense talk wasn't bridged/forwarded correctly to the other IRC service provider [12:33] techrights-bot Just recorded a video about #epo #corruption and #hungary ... background: http://techrights.org/2021/06/12/mihaly-ficsor-past/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/13/epo-in-budapest/ [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 4: Mihly Ficsor, the EPOs Hungarian Fixer | Techrights [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 6: Best Buddies With Antnio | Techrights [12:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 5: Benots Friends in Budapest | Techrights [12:38] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] schestowitz: what about "everyone should have guns so they can kill each other more easily"? [12:38] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: The bridge in ##sqlite is shot down, the op no longer wants it. [12:38] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] or what about "free guns at my house"? [12:39] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] has CrystalMath informed freenode staff that #techrights is illegally leaving freenode? [12:40] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: It's not leaving freenode though. It maintains a double presence. [12:42] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Even by the new rules that should be fine. [12:42] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] but users are told they can move to this network. that is illegal activity on freenode [12:43] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] XRevan86: btw did you see the new new rules? The new new rules are "we can ban you for any reason" [12:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: [12:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: At least freenode doesn't have a CoC! [12:43] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] it does have a coc [12:43] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: priorities :) [12:44] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] it's just labelled "terms of service" instead and it's even broader than most leftist cocs. https://freenode.net/policies [12:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | The Policies - freenode [12:44] *tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sees fruitless activity here and will bow down to focus on more important things, making 2 articles about 2 new videos [12:46] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] immibis: I know, I'm intentionally using the term in a narrower biased way. [12:49] techrights-bot The way things are going, this month there will be almost a quarter million page requests over gemini:// in #techrights [12:53] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:57] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams #wikileaks World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian #Assange for His VirtuesNot His Vices https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/06/13/worlds-most-powerful-imprison-julian-assange-his-virtues-not-his-vices [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | World's Most Powerful Imprison Julian Assange for His VirtuesNot His Vices | Chris Hedges ● Jun 14 [13:19] *IroncladCorona (~jon@64.121.152.202) has joined #techrights [13:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.63 swarm size (avg): 245.08 [13:24] leah . [13:24] tr-bridge [leah/tr] . [13:24] leah was just testing something. ignore me [13:24] leah keep calm and carry on [13:25] *leah wanted to see which directions the bot could go in [13:25] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] schestowitz: at some point, i would like to move techrights into a different /24 so that i can return the 23.161.112.0/24 to ARIN (and some others) in exchange for a contiguous /22 [13:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sides like a mere DNS change [13:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] afaik, we have 3 ip addresses currently exc. the hv [13:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] irc, tm, t [13:27] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] *tr [13:27] *leah is now known as unoccupied [13:27] *unoccupied is now known as leah [13:28] tr-bridge [Ariadne/tr] yes [13:29] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] sounds good [13:30] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] might need to adjust ttl to reduce downtime [13:30] techrights-bot The Fixer of Antnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ #hungary #epo #corruption #europe #patents [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fixer of Antnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | Techrights [13:39] techrights-bot 13 open source tools for developers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152262 [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13 open source tools for developers | Tux Machines [13:39] techrights-bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152263 [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Earth Pro | Tux Machines [13:40] techrights-bot #HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152264 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HaneSOM is a 4 cm2 Arm Linux module powered by Microchip SAMA5D2 SiP | Tux Machines [13:40] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152265 #Linux #TuxMachines [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] [13:41] I presume TR, TM, and HV will all move to new IPv4 addresses at the same [13:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] [13:41] time? [13:41] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne: ^ is that so? we want to lower the dns overhead and can adjust ttl accordingly [13:51] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: https://i.imgflip.com/4vqp4a.jpg ● Jun 14 [14:01] techrights-bot [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ #haar #de #hungary #epo #epc [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | Techrights [14:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] MinceR: your master/boss/leader/main [14:01] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] your primary [14:14] techrights-bot [Meme] #Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of #Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ #Techrights #vista11 #vista10 | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft Stooping Down Low in Search of Vapourware With a Superficial Version Bump | Techrights [14:19] techrights-bot The meeting which is set to resume at the start of next month includes the Fixer of #AntnioCampinos ; what sense of impartiality might one expect? http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ [14:19] techrights-bot #EPC denial is more lethal than anything which the the #EPO says may merit urgency (as if having discussions about patents will save lives) [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ #Techrights #Haar | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ [14:21] techrights-bot Instead of trying to actually fix its broken (and self-breaking) operating system #Microsoft has decided to sell mythology and false promises, as usual http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ #Techrights #vista10 #vista11 #vaporware | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/vista-11-vapourware/ [14:46] techrights-bot Conveniently Conflating #Vaccination With the #Surveillance Business of #IBM / #LinuxFoundation http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ #zemlinPAC [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights [14:50] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:59] techrights-bot Psychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/psychonauts-2-confirmed-for-launch-on-august-25-linux-still-supported #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Psychonauts 2 confirmed for launch on August 25, Linux still supported | GamingOnLinux [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Jun 14 [15:01] techrights-bot "Everything we've seen still clearly has #GNU #Linux there so we're good to go for it on August 9 for Early Access." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/the-tiny-multiplayer-online-rpg-book-of-travels-enters-early-access-on-august-9 [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The tiny multiplayer online RPG 'Book of Travels' enters Early Access on August 9 | GamingOnLinux [15:01] techrights-bot Horror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/horror-mystery-novel-scarlet-hollow-enters-early-access #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Horror-mystery novel Scarlet Hollow enters Early Access with two episodes out | GamingOnLinux [15:02] MinceR 14 064415 < tr-bridge> [DaemonFC/tr] Maybe even prophetic. SOME might get to leave and start a colony, if they pay Elon enough. [15:02] techrights-bot "Still due to release sometime next year for #GNU #Linux and Windows (with Switch announced now too), Kitsune Tails is a platformer styled after beloved classics steeped in Japanese mythology and diverse relationships. It looks seriously cute too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/kitsune-tails-gets-another-sweet-trailer-ahead-of-release-next-year [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kitsune Tails gets another sweet trailer ahead of release next year | GamingOnLinux [15:02] MinceR that won't help [15:02] MinceR the atmosphere of Mars is not useful to humans [15:06] MinceR 14 082049 < gustaf> phanes: I spent 17 years on Freenode without having to worry that what I said or did in a channel (or elsehwere) would bring staff down on me, or that channel [15:06] MinceR sounds like you didn't hang out on freenode official channels :> [15:06] MinceR 14 083523 <@schestowitz> OK, I think MinceR put rules in place [15:06] MinceR not really [15:10] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] MinceR: what did you get cancelled for? [15:11] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152266 [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:11] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *kgz has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *habaner0 has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *hvxgr has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *buzzert has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *scientes has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *kakama has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *kingoffrance has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *MinceR has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *drazak has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *LarchOye has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *Redfoxmoon has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *trttl has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *KindOne has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *GNUmoon2 has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *blakewo has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *pogosad has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *activelow has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *zoobab has quit (*.net *.split) [15:11] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights [15:13] techrights-bot Adrift - Alan Popes blog https://popey.com/blog/2021/06/adrift/ #Alanpopey | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Adrift - Alan Pope's blog [15:14] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] immibis: i didn't get cancelled yet, afaict [15:14] techrights-bot Mostly useless reuses. How about companies start making devices that are easier to repair and properly upgrade instead? https://www.maketecheasier.com/reuse-old-routers/ [15:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 8 Ways to Reuse Your Old Routers - Make Tech Easier [15:14] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] crybullies don't even know who i am :> [15:15] *hook54321 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [15:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] You are Vickor Ficsor [15:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Vicar [15:15] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] or Viktor [15:17] techrights-bot #Fedora Classroom: #RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-classroom-rpm-packaging-101/ #RedHat #IBM [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora Classroom: RPM Packaging 101 - Fedora Magazine [15:18] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] lol no [15:21] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.15 swarm size (avg): 245.13 [15:21] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [15:21] *hook54321 (hook54321@gateway/bnc/hook54321) has joined #techrights [15:22] psydroid Vlad MinceR [15:23] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i vill suck your blud! [15:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] villain [15:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] tbh, I found it fascinating how long he kept cloaked [15:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Touch not my krow! [15:24] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] I need it [15:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] after more than a decade I don't know his name, age etc. [15:24] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:24] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I know a few facts here and there based on what he said publicly [15:25] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmister Crowwwwwwwwwwww! [15:25] techrights-bot #Games : Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Psychonauts 2, Starmancer, Book of Travels, Scarlet Hollow, Kitsune Tails, and More | Tux Machines [15:26] techrights-bot #IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152268 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:27] techrights-bot #ibm : we litigate instead of innovate https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/06/10/why-ibm-is-suing-globalfoundries-over-chip-roadmap-failures/ [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Why IBM Is Suing GlobalFoundries Over Chip Roadmap Failures [15:30] *alynpost_ (~alynpost@irc.prgmr.com) has left #techrights [15:30] *alynpost_ (~alynpost@irc.prgmr.com) has joined #techrights [15:30] *alynpost_ (~alynpost@irc.prgmr.com) has left #techrights [15:31] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] Another netsplit. The bridge seems to be fine though. [15:31] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] indeed [15:31] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] netsplits on freenode are nothing new, anyway [15:32] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: With that frequency? Well [15:32] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] well, freenode and ircnet split the most frequently, afaict [15:32] *alynpost (~alynpost@prgmr/staff/alynpost) has joined #techrights [15:34] CrystalMath freenode is gonna change ircds, that's no tiny thing [15:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] freenode is deleting github [15:34] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and no matter what you think of freenode, this is a good thing [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I think it's because I suggested it to Lee [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] and he said he'd look into it [15:35] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] now there's git.freenode.net [15:35] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] CrystalMath: To ircd-eight? [15:36] CrystalMath inspircd [15:36] CrystalMath also gonna migrate services to anope [15:38] *psymin nods. [15:38] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] MinceR: then how do you know they are crybullies? [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] the definition is unclear [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] but it's a term many use to refer to "liberal" [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] people exist on both 'sides' [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] when they feel 'insulted' [15:42] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] immibis: they tried to cancel other people, sometimes successfully [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] Ariadne gets litigation threats from someone on the right [15:42] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] I get empty threats from supposedly liberal corrupt officials [15:43] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] of course they just try to intimidate and rattle [15:43] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] glad they're empty [15:43] *gufo (~zero@obraka.cloud.tilaa.com) has joined #techrights [15:43] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [15:43] *activelow (~aggi@gateway/tor-sasl/aggi) has joined #techrights [15:43] *blakewo (~blakewoo@gateway/tor-sasl/blakewo) has joined #techrights [15:43] *pogosad (~poggo@gateway/tor-sasl/pogosad) has joined #techrights [15:43] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [15:43] *kgz (~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu) has joined #techrights [15:43] *ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights [15:43] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@epjdn.zq3q.org) has joined #techrights [15:43] *habaner0 (~user@104.244.77.112) has joined #techrights [15:43] *LarchOye (nonmoose@spaceweed.spacetechnology.net) has joined #techrights [15:43] *zoobab (zoobab@vic.ffii.org) has joined #techrights [15:43] *rinnegan.freenode.net gives voice to kgz hvxgr LarchOye zoobab [15:43] *vallor (~Ponzo@pdpc/supporter/monthlygold/vallor) has joined #techrights [15:43] *trttl (trttl@xshellz/staff/trttl) has joined #techrights [15:43] *Redfoxmoon (~red@unaffiliated/redfoxmoon) has joined #techrights [15:43] *kakama (~kakama@heelys.club) has joined #techrights [15:43] *rinnegan.freenode.net gives voice to vallor trttl Redfoxmoon kakama [15:43] *scientes (~scientes@unaffiliated/scientes) has joined #techrights [15:43] *drazak (~androirc@45.55.142.104) has joined #techrights [15:43] *MinceR (mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #techrights [15:43] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890:4b2a:b386:9d31:590e) has joined #techrights [15:43] *buzzert (~buzzert@buzzert.net) has joined #techrights [15:43] *rinnegan.freenode.net gives channel operator status to MinceR [15:43] *rinnegan.freenode.net gives voice to scientes [15:43] *tr-bridge has quit (Excess Flood) [15:43] *WinterStar has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:44] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [15:44] *KindOne has quit (Quit: K-Lined) [15:45] schestowitz [15:43] when you show some embarrassing about them [15:45] *WinterStar (WinterStar@gateway/vpn/mullvad/winterstar) has joined #techrights [15:45] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [15:45] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] FN netsplit [15:48] *tr-bridge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:48] *tr-bridge (~tr-bridge@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [15:48] techrights-bot Links 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-5-13-rc6/ [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Linux 5.13 RC6, Psychonauts 2 for GNU/Linux | Techrights [15:49] techrights-bot Linux - 23 minutes ago [15:50] techrights-bot [15:50] psydroid OBJ? [15:51] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152269 # [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:51] techrights-bot #Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux Machines [15:52] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152271 [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:53] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] MinceR: so who was cancelled? [15:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] RMS was, for example [15:53] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: "FN netsplit" hm? another one? [15:53] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] RMS is banned from freenode? [15:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] XRevan86: no, it was just the end of that first one [15:53] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] yeah [15:55] *sdall2000[m|gr] (~sdall2000@n11211877135.netvigator.com) has joined #techrights [15:56] *sdall2000[m|gr] has quit (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) [15:56] techrights-bot " #IBM likes to play with enterprise openshift Each has its advantages and each has its lifecycle. Intel life cycles tend to run 2-3 years where as Mainframe tends to run 10-15 years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:57] techrights-bot "As long as #IBM has sh--e workers they have an excuse for what they do." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:57] techrights-bot "Maybe you would work 2 hours a week and steal the rest wherever you worked. I totally agree you shouldn't trust #IBM with anything but that's not an excuse to rob them." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [15:58] techrights-bot "It's salesmen that want to add some new chrome trim and sell it as the next year's model... "Shiny new stuff!!!... Get yours here!!!"..." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies #ibm #layoffs [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs ● Jun 14 [16:01] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21051651 [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5462628) [16:13] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] what is this monster? [16:15] MinceR not a monster [16:15] MinceR (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ybybf4tJWw https://next-hack.com/index.php/2021/06/12/lets-port-doom-to-an-ikea-tradfri-lamp/ [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doom on an IKEA TRDFRI lamp! - YouTube [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lets port Doom to an IKEA TRDFRI Lamp! next-hack.com [16:25] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] oh, wow [16:26] tr-bridge [schestowitz/tr] 100kb of ram [16:27] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] it does use flash heavily during rendering, though [16:27] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] including external SPI flash they added to the circuit [16:28] schestowitz just got some more EPO leaks [16:28] schestowitz this is gold [16:28] schestowitz they will waste almost 10,000,000 EUROS just suing their own STAFF [16:29] schestowitz or fighting them with external lawyers [16:29] schestowitz EPO is dying [16:29] MinceR too bad those will come out of our pockets [16:29] schestowitz sort of [16:29] schestowitz they have their own budget [16:29] schestowitz EPO is 'self-funding' [16:29] MinceR which also comes out of our pockets [16:29] schestowitz we just pay with settlements when trolls sue [16:29] schestowitz I will work on it now [16:29] schestowitz some of it is in German [16:29] schestowitz did you see the two .hu articles we did (article, video) and meme this morning? [16:30] schestowitz 3 total [16:30] MinceR no [16:30] MinceR i did see some hu/EPO thing today [16:31] schestowitz 1. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Illegal Location, Illegal Methods (Haar ViCo) | Techrights [16:31] schestowitz 2. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epc-denial/ [16:31] schestowitz 3.http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/ficsor-buddies-with-epo-pres/ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Virtual Injustice Part 6: Best Buddies With Antnio | Techrights [16:32] schestowitz 3. http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/fixing-g121/ [16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fixer of Antnio Campinos Taints G1/21 (ViCo Hearing) | Techrights [16:32] schestowitz (Corrected 3) [16:33] schestowitz I reckon hundres of hungarians work at EPO [16:35] techrights-bot Attempted about 12 times to phone Home Officer regarding http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ that number, which is widely advertised, never works. LOL. And the response to it varies between 3 states. I think their phone system is down. "Essential" service... [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office Force EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? [16:43] *Saijin_Naib (~Saijin_Na@node-q2g.pool-125-26.dynamic.totinternet.net) has joined #techrights [16:43] *Saijin_Naib has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:48] techrights-bot Oh gawd!!! More of that "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting. #LinuxFoundation is corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. It's dragging down the "Linux" brand. [16:51] techrights-bot More and more people I speak to and know for years stick to GNU but are looking to abandon Linux as the kernel. #linuxfoundation is one contributing factor. [16:52] psymin What do you think some other factors could be? [16:52] schestowitz weight [16:52] schestowitz systemd [16:52] schestowitz philosophy [16:54] MinceR not sure about that [16:54] MinceR BSD kernels come with their own userspaces :> [16:56] schestowitz fidosdev also moved... and another friend [16:56] schestowitz funnily enough, alpine goes the other way [16:56] schestowitz less gnu, but still just linux [16:56] schestowitz but.... no systemd [16:56] schestowitz and a lot less bloat [16:57] MinceR s/space/land/ [16:58] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] does linux foundation have anything to do with linux? [16:59] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] indeed ● Jun 14 [17:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] while it is somewhat disguised now, as far as i can tell, the Linux CoC gives bureaucrats at the Linux-Destroying Foundation the power to ban people from the Linux project [17:00] techrights-bot #GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 11 Compiler Performance Benchmarks With Various Optimization Levels, LTO | Tux Machines [17:00] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152273 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:00] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] it also helps its corporate owners ("members") violate the GPL on Linux in any way they feel like, without repercussions [17:01] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] the CoC allows folks to violate the GPL? [17:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] no [17:01] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] the Linux-Destroying Foundation does [17:01] *tr-bridge [psymin/tr] nods. [17:01] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] I'm glad the FSF exists and has backbone [17:02] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] the LDF also sent a powerful message by kicking out all community members a while ago [17:02] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] it is made of corporations and exists for the benefit of corporations [17:02] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] MinceR: pretty sure only torvalds and his delegates can ban people from the linux project [17:03] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] since the project is basically "whatever torvalds does" [17:03] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] Torvalds doesn't look like someone who has any control over the project [17:03] schestowitz Torvalds can still shout [17:03] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] he didn't want the CoC, yet was eventually forced to adopt it [17:03] schestowitz but not about things like 'secure boot' [17:03] schestowitz he can talk down cranks [17:03] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] some microsoft drone bragged about being the party to force this [17:03] schestowitz but not Red Hat cranks [17:03] schestowitz with fake security [17:03] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and around the time Linux was forced to adopt the CoC, Linus stepped down temporarily [17:03] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and let the most vocal supporter of kdbus take over [17:04] schestowitz novell/microsoft greg [17:04] schestowitz who brought in Microsoft's Levin [17:04] schestowitz sacha levin now his deputy [17:04] schestowitz Microsoft: we OWN linux [17:04] schestowitz Linux=Microsoft now http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights [17:04] schestowitz they partly own it [17:04] schestowitz thanks, LF [17:04] schestowitz well done on all the money though [17:05] schestowitz more sport cars for sheela and james z [17:05] psydroid Linux is not important in the long run [17:05] MinceR good [17:05] MinceR because it won't exist in the long run [17:05] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] Torvalds seems to have taken a path of avoiding some types of social and family conflict [17:06] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] he could have done that by leaving Linux and starting a fork [17:06] *dwts (~dwts@node-zeu.pool-182-52.dynamic.totinternet.net) has joined #techrights [17:07] *dwts has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:09] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] I think that would have met family drama head on [17:10] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] does the family have the right to take over someone's life's work? [17:14] schestowitz fair point... [17:15] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/real-world [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Real World [17:15] schestowitz MinceR: I will quote you in next article.. [17:15] CrystalMath really, this may be controversial, but... i think Richard Stallman was more right about "it's important to not have children" than people think, maybe even more than he himself knows [17:15] schestowitz about budget [17:15] schestowitz CrystalMath: yes, but it won't make him popular [17:15] CrystalMath you see, projects by childless people are very different from projects by people who have children [17:15] MinceR well, it's important, but he won't convince people of it [17:15] MinceR nothing will [17:16] MinceR the human species will just ensure its own extinction in the most painful ways possible [17:16] schestowitz Brazil is devour catholic [17:16] CrystalMath MinceR: but that's besides my point now... [17:16] schestowitz and generally relatively dumb, with exception of course, like in most nations... [17:16] schestowitz some of them you can barely compel to use contraceptive [17:16] CrystalMath my point now is, a project by a childfree person will be *more free* [17:16] schestowitz that would offer sweet jesus [17:16] CrystalMath this is controversial [17:16] CrystalMath but think about it! people who have children kinda change [17:16] schestowitz yeah [17:16] schestowitz need to bigger budget [17:16] MinceR well, you can keep your project just as free, as long as you have a strong enough will to stand up to your own children [17:16] schestowitz so they make excuses [17:17] MinceR CrystalMath: everybody changes [17:17] schestowitz like lunduke did when attacking rms to his face [17:17] CrystalMath schestowitz: and they become parents, which means they start to see the importance of discipline [17:17] schestowitz "I have a kid blah blah" [17:17] CrystalMath because in their life it is important [17:17] schestowitz having kids doesn't mature people [17:17] MinceR i doubt i'd like "discipline" any more if i was a parent [17:17] schestowitz it's a misconception [17:17] schestowitz they might pretend better [17:17] MinceR it's just another idea humans make life hell for each other [17:17] MinceR with [17:17] CrystalMath MinceR: you'd be changed, even by hormonal stuff, to be more caring about people rather than ideologies [17:18] CrystalMath and yes even though you're a man [17:18] MinceR and the ideologies aren't about people? [17:18] CrystalMath the ideologies are always about people, but my point is, people with children are always more about "we must protect people, even from themselves" [17:18] CrystalMath and i think this stems from hormonal effects [17:18] CrystalMath and the lifestyle of a parent [17:19] MinceR hopefully strong-willed people's minds aren't fucked up by hormones that much [17:19] CrystalMath i know that i'm kinda going into some possible evolutionary psychology mumbo-jumbo, but i think that sort of vaguely makes sense? [17:19] MinceR from the evolutionary perspective, we're a dead end [17:19] CrystalMath i mean, isn't it not beneficial for a parent to think that way? [17:20] CrystalMath *is it not [17:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 51.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 22.78 swarm size (avg): 245.17 [17:20] MinceR and so's everything that can't either itself develop technology to deal with challenges nonsapients can't beat, or team up with species that do so [17:21] MinceR when the Sun goes red giant, no amount of praying or SJW nonsense or other ideological nonsense will save life on Earth from it [17:21] MinceR only science and technology will [17:22] CrystalMath there's also the other thing: people with children need a bigger budget [17:22] MinceR i have no children and i still need a bigger budget [17:22] CrystalMath they can no longer afford to devote to ideologies [17:22] MinceR if only [17:23] CrystalMath i would like some statistical data on the signers of the RMS petitions, how many on each side have children [17:23] CrystalMath i think i really am on to something, but i've got nothing as far as evidence is concerned [17:23] *stefanc_diff (~stefanc_d@46.70.150.90) has joined #techrights [17:24] CrystalMath for example i know that all of the people i debated on ##rms in 2019, all of the biggest anti-RMS voices were people who've had children [17:24] *stefanc_diff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:24] CrystalMath they either mentioned it or linked to their website which mentions it [17:24] MinceR "wouldn't somebody please think of the children?" [17:24] schestowitz makes sense [17:24] schestowitz the "real world" crowd [17:24] schestowitz they fear RMS [17:25] schestowitz because he represents something they wanted to be but could not or cannot anymore [17:25] schestowitz too debt-saddled [17:25] schestowitz and indebted to kids, college etc. [17:25] schestowitz sucks to be them... [17:25] schestowitz I have a sister like this... [17:37] techrights-bot A Parade of 'Yes Men': EPO's Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ #epo #europe #corruption #litigation #patents [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Parade of Yes Men: EPOs Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary | Techrights [17:46] *wineroots (f24d257755@gateway/shell/disroot.org/x-pgvunygxdydxsoaa) has joined #techrights [17:49] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] the real world does not care about some random loser who eats toenails [17:50] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] the real world cares about getting things done, which is usually best served by proprietary software [17:50] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] nice bait [17:50] psydroid proprietary software for all [17:50] tr-bridge [immibis/tr] "you pay me $100 and i'll give you a computer that can run word". done [17:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and your punishment is using word [17:51] psydroid proprietary software runs the world [17:51] psydroid all supercomputers, servers and embedded devices [17:52] MinceR yeah, so many proprietary kernels on the top500 list :> [17:52] psydroid :) [17:54] psydroid I think it's selfish to want to destroy a person, the movement and organisation he started just because you fear for your own future finances in a world where free software had won [17:54] MinceR i don't even know why they fear for that [17:55] psydroid if you are afraid you're not going to be able to make ends meet, a job in IT may not be for you anymore [17:55] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:55] MinceR it's obvious that there are a lot of governments that can be corrupted into spending the people's money on the shoddiest proprietary crapware available [17:55] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [17:55] psydroid but I don't think it will turn out like that [17:55] MinceR and that there are a lot of hipsters that will pay anything to have an alleged IT device with their cult's logo on it [17:55] techrights-bot [Meme] #EPO 'Lawfulness' as Crude Budget Wars http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ #patents #patent #europe #corruption [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Lawfulness as Crude Budget Wars | Techrights [17:56] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-152-238-39.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:57] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-152-238-39.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:57] psydroid whatever advantage there may once have been for proprietary hardware and software, the world is increasingly turning to commodity hardware and free software [17:57] MinceR it isn't exactly difficult to do better than deliberately crap software and hardware [17:57] psydroid it's completely natural that old companies will die and new ones will spring up [17:58] MinceR like Backdoors10 with its built-in keylogger and Intel hardware with its built-in hardware backdoor [17:58] psydroid survival of the fittest, I guess [17:58] MinceR and UEFI hardware with built-in vendor lock-in [17:58] psydroid so now Nervana is dead, Altera in a state of limbo and the next victim will be SiFive [17:59] techrights-bot New on #ibm decline: "I don't understand why anybody still has the illusion on the survivability of Power architecture. The installation base of Power ISA is less than 1%. It takes time and resource commitment to revive it. Apple succeeded in the late 1990s. Do you see ibm makes any resource commitment?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:59] psydroid Intel's track record is impressive [17:59] techrights-bot New on #ibm decline: "Power declining is not new - it was already having problems meeting shipping targets since at least early 200x and has been on a competitive decline since. This was the main reason why Apple switched from Power to Intel in 2005." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies ● Jun 14 [18:00] psydroid Apple bought PA Semi and could have been competitive with the POWER ISA, but why should they? [18:00] schestowitz Intelligence Agency Intel [18:01] psydroid there are no new initiatives using the POWER ISA apart from what is coming out of IBM and some fringe Raptor and LibreSOC stuff [18:01] MinceR apple despises their own customers too much to even try [18:02] MinceR they deserve each other [18:04] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.104) has joined #techrights [18:07] schestowitz curiously enough, in spite of freenode losing users, we still have many people here [18:07] schestowitz and even after some things loud ircclown got banned [18:07] schestowitz and some freenode staff left [18:07] schestowitz let's hope for a calm IRC week ahead [18:07] schestowitz we have tons of patent material to publish [18:08] techrights-bot Michael Meeks: "Subscribed to Musescore, some quartet action. J. took H. & N. off to stay with B&A for a bit." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-06-13.html yes, THAT #Musescore [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-06-13.html ) [18:10] techrights-bot Why on Earth is #Microsoft not even mentioned here? Lobbying? Bribery? 'Campaigning'? https://www.maketecheasier.com/legislation-break-up-tech-monopolies/ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Legislation to Break Up Tech Monopolies Inching Closer - Make Tech Easier [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:11] techrights-bot #microsoft loves to pretend that it's everywhere and in everything, except when it comes to regulation, antitrust, and break-up. Then Microsoft pretends it does not even exist! [18:12] techrights-bot You know you're being lied to when companies like Facebook and Apple are accused of being too big or monopolies, whereas Microsoft is somehow magically 'benign' and barely exists... [18:16] techrights-bot "re-discovered Android-Studio's love of consuming all memory and burning us deeply into swap." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog ) [18:25] techrights-bot #ibm #collapse "who in the right mind will buy a hardware business with less than 1% of installation base? If the BU is sold, it will either go to a bottom feeder, or one of the WITCH. Working for either is as unpleasant as working for ibm." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies [18:27] techrights-bot LOL #ibm "People take every Thursday and Friday whole day off. ( Entire team)." [...] "I bet many other IBMers are doing the same and that's why company hasn't grown in last few years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | looks like some in IBM are doing very well - post regarding IBM layoffs [18:28] techrights-bot "Also, my friend's team in #IBM works for 10-15 hrs weekly. It's slightly more than us but still we can enjoy every Friday together. They have only Friday offs. This is why we love IBM and still here. We don't care about execs or IBM at all. All people know IBM is drowning and they are not going to give any good raises or bonuses. So it's how we make our life happy." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bfkVTnV#replies [18:30] techrights-bot Review: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152275 [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Bodhi Linux 6.0.0 | Tux Machines [18:30] techrights-bot Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152274 [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Ubuntu Pro for Google Cloud | Tux Machines [18:31] techrights-bot ALL "mobile" things have LONG been #fakeSecurity ... starting with the hardware https://symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com/blogs/threat-intelligence/mobile-apps-ssl-locks [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-symantec-enterprise-blogs.security.com | Breaking SSL Locks: App Developers Behaving Badly | Symantec Blogs [18:33] techrights-bot "Somehow, this didnt get posted when I hit the post button, and I never noticed!" Do you not even double-check? Seems basic. https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6088 [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Winner, Name that Ware April 2021 bunnie's blog [18:35] psydroid if buying the POWER BU gives you hardware engineers, you could have them retarget the processor to RISC-V and at least have a future. Or you could just let it die. [18:36] *TViernion4 (~TViernion@mx-ll-180.183.120-248.dynamic.3bb.co.th) has joined #techrights [18:36] *TViernion4 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:39] psydroid Fujitsu and Oracle saw the light and switched to ARM ... IBM never does? [18:39] techrights-bot #Kdenlive 21.04.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152276 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive 21.04.2 released | Tux Machines [18:40] techrights-bot The way some media handles #COVID19 can be described as self-serving, especially #Microsoft -connected sites looking to make #Linux sound bad (or like property of Microsoft); the video above discusses this past weekends media coverage about Linux http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/vaccine-spam-in-linux-news/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.te [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conveniently Conflating Vaccination With the Surveillance Business of IBM/Linux Foundation | Techrights [18:40] techrights-bot The lack of oversight at the #EPO has long been apparent and it is becoming ever more problematic now that huge sums of money are passed by the EPOs management to #law firms whose sole role is to fight against aggrieved EPO staff http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-budget-and-finance-committee/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021 [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Parade of Yes Men: EPOs Budget and Finance Committee as Rubber-stamper of the Dictatorship That Pays the Salary | Techrights [18:41] techrights-bot A war of attrition against #EPO staff wont ensure justice is done; itll only increase the number of casualties and accomplish nothing good http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ #Techrights #europe #corruption #iloat| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-pockets-war/ [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Lawfulness as Crude Budget Wars | Techrights [18:42] techrights-bot #techrights gemini stats so far today: 9218 total page requests and 858 known hosts. #geminiSpace is really growing FAST! #geminiProtocol #internet [18:44] techrights-bot More and more people I know (online) nowadays turn their Web sites into GEMINI capsules, with the #www site being just secondary, generated based on their capsule (as automated spew). Gemini easy to manage! https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006694.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006697.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006695.html [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static site [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static site [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A good way to generate HTML Pages from a static site [18:45] techrights-bot #geminiprotocol is very lightweight and thus easy to host/manage from one's home. On slow connections. Many advantages inc. costs and #freespeech advantages. [18:46] techrights-bot #betrusted #precursor #openhardware https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6097 [18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Monitoring the Health of Precursors TRNGs bunnie's blog [18:48] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:48] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-152-238-39.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:50] *PhotoJim19 (~PhotoJim@softbank126227044020.bbtec.net) has joined #techrights [18:50] *PhotoJim19 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:50] techrights-bot What is a CI/CD pipeline? | https://opensource.com/article/21/6/what-cicd-pipeline #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is a CI/CD pipeline? | Opensource.com [18:53] techrights-bot "Because #Precursor uses an #FPGA for its SoC, we can add new features to the hardware on the fly." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6094 [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunniestudios.com | Upgrading Precursors TRNG bunnie's blog [18:56] techrights-bot Jason Perlow from Microsoft doing puff pieces for this joke called "Linux Foundation Research" today!!! It's NOT research. It's a joke. It's QUESTIONNAIRES and stuff... about BRANDING AND MARKETING. They redefine SPAM as "Research". Disgusting. [18:57] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation in a nutshell http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [18:59] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation says "celebrating 30 years of Open Source", but Open Source isn't even 23 years old!!!! https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-linux-has-impacted-your-lives-celebrating-30-years-of-open-source/ revisionism: http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | How Linux Has Impacted Your Lives - Celebrating 30 Years of Open Source - Linux Foundation [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights ● Jun 14 [19:02] gustaf MinceR: I never had any need to visit a Freenode offiial channel, because staff left us the fuck alone [19:03] gustaf 17 years under old management - zero problems [19:03] gustaf 1 week under the new - our channel was taken from us [19:03] gustaf I have adjusted my priors accordingly [19:04] MinceR hallowed are the Ori? [19:05] techrights-bot "Time to get your cyberpunk back on as Mechajammer from publisher Modern Wolf and developer Whalenought Studios has just been announced with confirmed #gnu #Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/06/modern-wolf-announces-mechajammer-a-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpg [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Modern Wolf announces Mechajammer, a tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG | GamingOnLinux [19:07] techrights-bot #IBM 's #RedHat conversions go only in one direction, and one might call this vendor lock-in https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/convert2rhel-adds-official-support-oracle-linux-conversions [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Convert2RHEL adds official support for Oracle Linux conversions [19:09] techrights-bot "Friends from both Zuul CI and Circle CI stepped up and helped us started to get CI jobs transitioned over from Travis over to their new homes." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/06/14/bye-bye-travis-ci/ #curl would be wise to #deletegithub and self-host. I told Daniel many times before, but he's insistent. [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bye bye Travis CI | daniel.haxx.se [19:10] techrights-bot #ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ACPI-PRM-Linux-Started #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACPI Platform Runtime Mechanism Support Is Getting Underway For Linux - Phoronix [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:11] techrights-bot Linux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The #RaspberryPi 400 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Raspberry-Pi-400-Linux-5.14 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 Mainline Should Work With The Raspberry Pi 400 - Phoronix [19:11] techrights-bot #PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152277 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:11] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PDF Mix Tool 1.0 Released With Overhauled Interface, PDF Metadata Editing And Qt6 Support | Tux Machines [19:12] techrights-bot #Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-TDX-Guest-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Publishes Latest TDX Support Patches For Linux - Phoronix [19:13] techrights-bot I really love #nz accent :-) [19:15] techrights-bot 6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/increasing-earning-potential #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 6 ways to increase your Linux sysadmin earning profile and potential | Enable Sysadmin [19:17] techrights-bot This Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/06/14/this-arduino-project-is-counting-to-a-billion/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino project is counting to a billion | Arduino Blog [19:18] techrights-bot Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can #memcpy be implemented in #LLVM IR? http://nhaehnle.blogspot.com/2021/06/can-memcpy-be-implemented-in-llvm-ir.html #nhaehnle #programming [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nhaehnle.blogspot.com | Tagebuch eines Interplanetaren Botschafters: Can memcpy be implemented in LLVM IR? [19:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 74.90 swarm size (avg): 245.23 [19:27] techrights-bot "The idea that an application built on OCP/K8s can be deployed / re-deployed to Z/Power/x86 on-prem or to AWS/Azure/GCP/IBM Cloud simply and easily without making any changes is ridiculous to anyone who has ever deployed an application. This is the late 90s Java "write once run anywhere" nonsense all over again." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1beUeseK#replies [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | When will next RA in System BU's Power Line - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:28] techrights-bot Toward a Respectful #Hardware Production - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/toward-a-respectful-hardware-production/ #purism #gnu #linux [19:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Toward a Respectful Hardware Production Purism [19:29] *kg6hum (~kg6hum@49.228.152.126) has joined #techrights [19:29] *kg6hum has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:30] schestowitz MinceR: are those likely spammers? [19:30] schestowitz I noticed this pattern... [19:30] MinceR yeah [19:31] schestowitz it's a good thing you shoved a condom over their heads then [19:31] MinceR i quieted unidentified users because they started spewing spam here [19:31] schestowitz saboteurs [19:32] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,751 and that helps show that many support #gnu founder #rms in charge of #fsf and #freesw (contrary to #corporatemedia lies and defamation) [19:33] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:34] techrights-bot #Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152278 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi 400, Trust Domain Extensions (TDX), and ACPI | Tux Machines [19:35] techrights-bot #helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152279 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | helloSystem - FreeBSD Based OS Brings another Promising Release 0.5.0 | Tux Machines [19:35] techrights-bot #OpenHardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152280 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Librem, Arduino, and Precursor | Tux Machines [19:38] techrights-bot IoThrees Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 #Linux Plumbers Conference https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/06/14/iothrees-company-microconference-accepted-into-2021-linux-plumbers-conference/ [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | IoThrees Company Microconference Accepted into 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 [19:38] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:39] AdmFubar https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htm [19:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ericgoldman.org | Do We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act (CFAA)?-Van Buren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law Blog [19:41] techrights-bot Do We Even Need the Computer Fraud & Abuse Act ( #CFAA )?-#VanBuren v. US - Technology & Marketing Law Blog https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/06/do-we-even-need-the-computer-fraud-abuse-act-cfaa-van-buren-v-us.htm #ericgoldman #freesw [19:42] techrights-bot " #Inacta briefly considered #IBM #RedHat #OpenShift , but realized that the monocluster architecture makes scaling (and multi-cluster management) difficult and would also cause costs to soar." https://www.suse.com/c/inacta-scaling-up-with-kubernetes/ [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inacta: Scaling Up with Kubernetes | SUSE Communities [19:46] techrights-bot With Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152281 [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Deskreen, You Can Mirror or Stream Your Linux Computer Screen to Any Device | Tux Machines [19:46] techrights-bot SUSE/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152282 [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:49] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152283 [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:52] techrights-bot #debian Developers on issues with #ibm #redhat vendor lock-in #ansible http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/transilience/my-gripes-with-ansible if only he blasted #systemd like Ansible... [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | My gripes with Ansible [19:53] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210610/06275246964/buried-apple-privacy-scandal-undermines-attacks-right-to-repair-legislation.shtml [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Buried Apple Privacy Scandal Undermines Its Attacks On Right To Repair Legislation | Techdirt ● Jun 14 [20:01] AdmFubar think what you may.... [20:01] AdmFubar https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/13/0052214&from=rss [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The Human Brain is More Like a Testicle than any Other Organ - SoylentNews [20:03] AdmFubar https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/06/11/2252205&from=rss [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | India has More than 28,000 "Black Fungus" Cases: Health Minister - SoylentNews [20:05] schestowitz "Black Fungus"? [20:05] schestowitz what is that about? [20:05] AdmFubar yeah [20:06] AdmFubar dusty environments, covid, suppressed immune systems... [20:08] techrights-bot How to make #programming not about programming. Sounds like those people who try to impose marketing buzzwords and mandatory "meetings" on all of us to reduce productivity, harm users, farm people's data etc. https://skamille.medium.com/an-incomplete-list-of-skills-senior-engineers-need-beyond-coding-8ed4a521b29f [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skamille.medium.com | An incomplete list of skills senior engineers need, beyond coding | by Camille Fournier | Jun, 2021 | Medium [20:09] techrights-bot "8.5 years ago, I moved my blog to #Ikiwiki and Branchable. It's now time for me to take the next step and host my blog on my own server. This is how I migrated from Branchable to my own Apache server." https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/self-hosting-ikiwiki-blog/ [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feeding.cloud.geek.nz | Self-hosting an Ikiwiki blog [20:11] techrights-bot How do you explain to people that to be a #freesw developer you need to actually engage in #programming and improve coding skills? "Meetings", pandering, pushing CoCs around and interjecting politics into projects is hardly contributing and it can oftentimes actively harm development communities. [20:14] techrights-bot Yes, actually contributing to #freesw by actually writing code is a lot of work and hard work, including learning/training/practising, but we need people who do things, not people who try to stir shit up like Bully de Blanc did... [20:14] techrights-bot " #Toradex is extending its Torizon operating system for use as a full IoT development and operations (DevOps) platform for Linux devices." https://www.eletimes.com/extended-platform-for-iot-linux-devices [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eletimes.com | NO TITLE [20:15] techrights-bot #LibreOffice Sidebar converted to native HTML controls https://eszkadev.blogspot.com/2021/06/sidebar-converted-to-native-html.html [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eszkadev.blogspot.com | What is eszka doing: Sidebar converted to native HTML controls [20:16] techrights-bot #Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/06/14/panfrost-opengl-es-3-1-midgard-mali-t760-bifrost-mali-g31-g52-g76-gpu/ #Linux #Graphics | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Panfrost now supports OpenGL ES 3.1 on Midgard (Mali T760 and newer) and Bifrost (Mali G31, G52, G76) GPUs - CNX Software [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:17] techrights-bot #Intel #Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Crocus-Has-Landed #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Gallium3D Driver Merged Into Mesa 21.2 For Gen4 Through Haswell Graphics - Phoronix [20:18] techrights-bot Another Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For #Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Coreboot-ASUS-P8Z77-V #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge Motherboard Now Works For Coreboot (ASUS P8Z77-V) - Phoronix [20:18] techrights-bot "AI designing AI" HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-may-2021 #buzzwords [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Robotics May 2021 | Ubuntu [20:29] techrights-bot Links 14/6/2021: #Kdenlive 21.04.2 and #RaspberryPi 400 Support in Linux http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/kdenlive-21-04-2/ [20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/6/2021: Kdenlive 21.04.2 and Raspberry Pi 400 Support in Linux | Techrights [20:29] techrights-bot #Games : GOG, Mechajammer, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152284 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GOG, Mechajammer, and More | Tux Machines [20:30] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152285 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:30] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers and Ansible http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152286 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers and Ansible | Tux Machines [20:30] techrights-bot #Kernel : Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex | Tux Machines [20:41] tr-bridge [XRevan86/tr] https://xkcd.com/2476/ [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Base Rate [20:42] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [20:44] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006282457/illinois-chemical-plant-explosion-fires-prompt-evacuations-chemtool-rockton [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | An Illinois Chemical Plant Explosion And Fires Prompt Evacuations : NPR [20:52] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] People in the area have ash falling on them. ● Jun 14 [21:01] AdmFubar scarier then the magnesium recycle plant fire here years ago... [21:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] The cops are advising people to gather at a middle school 3.5 miles away. [21:06] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] That's not nearly far enough. [21:08] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1006126724/hyundai-plant-in-alabama-pauses-manufacturing-due-to-car-chip-shortage [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Alabama Hyundai Plant Halts Production Due To Car Ship Shortage : NPR [21:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.npr.org/2021/06/14/1000464866/china-has-promised-to-go-carbon-neutral-by-2060-but-coal-is-still-king [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | China Has Promised To Go Carbon-Neutral By 2060, But Coal Is Still King : NPR [21:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] China continues to talk out of both sides of their mouth. [21:11] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Carbon neutral promises while also building three times more coal power capacity last year as the rest of the world put together. [21:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 39.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.43 swarm size (avg): 245.28 [21:22] *MAGIC25 (~MAGIC@c83-249-95-18.bredband.tele2.se) has joined #techrights [21:22] *MAGIC25 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:36] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] they're having their kayak and heating it too [21:42] schestowitz npr, funded by gates and Microsoft [21:42] schestowitz I lost interest when I found out Microsoft too bribes it [21:43] schestowitz and yet it covers Microsoft 'news' [21:43] schestowitz while admitting Microsoft pays them [21:43] schestowitz RIP, NPR [21:43] schestowitz https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [21:44] techrights-bot Linux Mint 20.2 beta ISOs undergo testing and are due soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151779#new [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.2 Uma Announced with New Bulk Renaming App, Beta Is Coming Mid-June | Tux Machines [21:47] techrights-bot #DestinationLinux 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far https://destinationlinux.org/episode-230/ [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 230: Our Favorite Distros of 2021, So Far - Destination Linux [21:55] techrights-bot #google the back doors company is #openwashing its "homomorphic" #encryption package https://lwn.net/Articles/859688/rss Google... same company that put BACK-DOORED 'encryption' INSIDE LINUX [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google's fully homomorphic encryption package [LWN.net] [21:57] techrights-bot Kernel: Gallium3D, Panfrost, Coreboot, Linux Plumbers Conference, Toradex http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152287 [21:57] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152288 [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines ● Jun 14 [22:08] tr-bridge [psymin/tr] rip NPR :( [22:11] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [22:13] schestowitz psydroid: MinceR: I wrote about the whole Linux thing [22:13] schestowitz wanna proofread? [22:14] MinceR yeah [22:14] psydroid sure [22:14] schestowitz draft, MinceR http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todays Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | Techrights [22:16] MinceR lol @ methodology from IDC [22:16] MinceR schestowitz: looks good to me [22:17] schestowitz thanks [22:17] schestowitz IDC part of IDG [22:17] schestowitz china [22:17] schestowitz no longer even doing articles [22:17] schestowitz just running sponsored puff pieces [22:17] schestowitz in what USED to be news sites [22:18] psydroid the text looks fine to me [22:18] schestowitz thanks, must be luck [22:18] schestowitz single pass [22:21] techrights-bot Todays Linux Standing for the Opposite of What #Linux Users Stand for http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ #linuxfoundation #kernel #microsoft #openwashing [22:22] techrights-bot Linux Foundation: sold, defunct. Sold to #microsoft and friends on the cheap... http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#June_2021 #zemlinPAC #traitor #selfharm [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [22:26] *Nothing4You_26 (~Nothing4Y@142.0.20.9) has joined #techrights [22:26] *Nothing4You_26 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:34] *TTwrs (~TTwrs@c-67-169-185-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #techrights [22:35] *TTwrs has quit (Client Quit) [22:37] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *kgz has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *habaner0 has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *hvxgr has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *buzzert has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *scientes has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *kakama has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *kingoffrance has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *MinceR has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *drazak has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *LarchOye has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *gufo has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *vallor has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *Redfoxmoon has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *trttl has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *GNUmoon2 has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *blakewo has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *pogosad has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *activelow has quit (*.net *.split) [22:37] *zoobab has quit (*.net *.split) [22:40] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBwkA4SSSo [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Ranked All Asian Car Brands from Worst to Best - YouTube [22:40] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Subaru is worse than Kia. [22:40] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] Wow [22:41] *hook54321 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [22:42] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [22:42] tr-bridge [DaemonFC/tr] I would think that worse than exploding engines would be hard. [22:43] schestowitz Mincer: I can't seem to be able to remove the q mode [22:43] schestowitz even as op [22:43] schestowitz I need this for the ipfs bot [22:43] schestowitz otherwise, like yesterday, things would not run properly. irc logs and all [22:44] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] schestowitz/fn: /mode #techrights -q $~a [22:45] *schestowitz sets mode -q #techrights $~a [22:45] schestowitz thanks [22:45] schestowitz ipfs bot isn't stable [22:46] schestowitz so 'voicing' it isn't always enough, as I'm often asleep when the cron jobs are run [22:47] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] you could give it autovoice in chanserv, i guess [22:47] schestowitz if you know how to do that [22:47] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i can't look it up because services are not on my side [22:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] but i think it's something like /quote chanserv flags #techrights +V techrights-ipfs [22:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] provided it has a nickserv account [22:48] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] if not, it might work with a hostmask [22:49] *hook54321 (hook54321@gateway/bnc/hook54321) has joined #techrights [22:49] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] /quote chanserv help flags probably tells you how to do it [22:49] schestowitz thanks for the pointer [22:49] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] np [22:49] schestowitz antother wave of netsplits just spat out about 20 users [22:50] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] maybe they're migrating to another ircd already [22:50] schestowitz I think they need a policy fix [22:50] schestowitz the daemon isn't the issue [22:50] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] indeed [22:50] schestowitz the demons who run this network are the issue [22:50] schestowitz with nicknames like "Red Horseman" [22:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] especially since what i thought the main attraction of the new ircd was (spamfilter) is allegedly also available in this one [22:51] schestowitz I thought misusing op to intimidate people was a violation of policy [22:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i don't think the cool names are the problem [22:51] schestowitz but you know coc things, they don't apply to those who introduce them [22:51] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] k-lining people for disagreeing on a support channel definitely is [22:51] schestowitz anyway, I checked netsplit.de today [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] and k-lining irccloud for an insult on twatter isn't a good look either [22:52] schestowitz not looking too good for FN [22:52] schestowitz what tweet? [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] well yeah, k-lining people tends to decrease the number of users :> [22:52] schestowitz I didn't know about that... [22:52] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] https://nitter.fdn.fr/IRCCloud/status/1397475744448663564 [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.fdn.fr | IRCCloud (@IRCCloud): "The Freenode network is under new management, and the new staff have taken over hundreds of legitimate channels. We strongly urge anyone still connected to that network to check that your channels are safe and take immediate steps to move to another network." | FDNitter [22:53] schestowitz was that shortly before the ban? [22:53] tr-bridge [MinceR/tr] i haven't checked [22:53] schestowitz May 26th [22:53] schestowitz so long before it was k-lined wholesale [22:54] schestowitz the moment they took over like 700 channels was a turning point [22:54] schestowitz the clarification wasn't even an apology [22:54] schestowitz either way, it was the moment they squeezed the trigger [22:55] schestowitz apology could limit the damage somewhat [22:55] schestowitz I am making an Hungarian meme now... [22:55] schestowitz about EPO ● Jun 14 [23:07] techrights-bot [Meme] There Are No Elections in Mafia-Type Regimes; It's About Family and Friends... http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/ #epo #entryism #corruption #europe #patents [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] There Are No Elections in Mafia-Type Regimes; Its About Family and Friends | Techrights [23:19] techrights-bot Hardly Shocking and Not At All Surprising That Thugs Who Run the #EPO Hired External Thugs to Help Them Oppress Aggrieved Staff http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/ #europe #corruption #germany #iloat [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hardly Shocking and Not At All Surprising That Thugs Who Run the EPO Hired External Thugs to Help Them Oppress Aggrieved Staff | Techrights [23:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 55.96 swarm size (avg): 245.31 [23:22] *finkata (~finkata@ppp-124-120-193-35.revip2.asianet.co.th) has joined #techrights [23:22] finkata /!NELHAS OE TOLIA.CHA HARADI/ [23:22] *finkata has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:23] schestowitz I'll put q back on after the cron job 3 hours from now... [23:24] techrights-bot Richi Jennings at #microsoft propaganda site #securityboulevard doesn't know the difference between polkit and linux [23:25] techrights-bot Sometimes #microsoft spreads the anti- #linux FUD directly, not through proxies like #blackduck http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_Duck [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights [23:26] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152289 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [23:28] techrights-bot "The #FreeSW landscape is chock-full of talented developers creating powerful tools" - Urgent Comms https://urgentcomm.com/2021/06/14/open-source-tools-for-the-iot-ecosystem/ #urgentcomm | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/06/14/#latest [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-urgentcomm.com | Open-source tools for the IoT ecosystem Urgent Comms [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:32] techrights-bot What if the #fedora 'community' found out that their steward #ibm helped Nazi Germany (second-biggest client) massacre gays? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/pride-month-celebration/ [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Pride Month Celebration Fedora Community Blog [23:34] techrights-bot IBM R&D can write a ton of patents and get one chip with a heartbeat out of a few hundred wafer starts. Nothing is scalable and GF got screwed. GF backs out. #IBM has better lawyers and are making it look like GF is the bad guy." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1blNh40h#replies [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | WHY IBM IS SUING GLOBALFOUNDRIES OVER CHIP ROADMAP FAILURES???? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:35] techrights-bot he so-called #LinuxFoundation or the Corporate Linux Foundation is alienating many of the original users of GNU/Linux and it still insults their intelligence http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/linux-foundation-marketing/ [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Todays Linux Standing for the Opposite of What Linux Users Stand for | Techrights [23:35] techrights-bot With no real concept or notion of elections (the so-called mafia members choose their successors and colleagues) the #EPO s #patent examiners clearly need outside intervention, e.g. inquest by the #EU authorities http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/mafia-culture/ [23:36] techrights-bot With the #EPO s management flooding the bank accounts of aggressive law firms (at our expense) we need to ask serious questions about how such a Mafia http://techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/ #Techrights #patents #iloat #ilo| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/14/epo-legal-bullying/