●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 14, 2021 ●● ● Aug 14 [00:00] DaemonFC There's actually two different thresholds. One for $35 tickets and one for $150. Obviously, they want to send out more $150, but the $35 ones are useful too. [00:00] activelow wouldn't it be easist to avoid fines to comply with speed limit? [00:00] DaemonFC They're a nuisance and not worth spending all day going downtown to fight about it when 4 out of 5 times you lose. [00:00] DaemonFC wouldn't it be easist to avoid fines to comply with speed limit? [00:01] DaemonFC The cameras went in because the company behind them, Redflex, was bribing the decision makers in the city government. [00:01] DaemonFC Some people went to prison over that iirc. [00:01] activelow for installing speed meters? [00:02] DaemonFC Mayor Lightfoot promised during her campaign that she would end the camera bootings and stop going after people's licenses for not paying the tickets, because the program was "inherently racist". [00:02] DaemonFC Then she turned around and ramped up the program instead once she was in. [00:03] DaemonFC It turned into a major revenue source for the city, even though most of the cameras are in places where safety isn't an issue. [00:03] activelow no need to comment on that, but a speed meter measures the velocity of a car, not the genome sequence [00:03] DaemonFC Including one that's between two cemeteries which both have 12 foot walls around them. [00:03] DaemonFC Then there's the red light cameras. [00:03] MinceR well, she did turn out to be racist [00:03] DaemonFC The city took 25% of the yellow time away to issue more tickets, and now there are 11% more accidents at those intersections. [00:03] MinceR so it makes sense that she would want an "inherently racist" program to continue :> [00:04] activelow does the yellow time reduction prevent a safe full stop, when cars do not exceed speed limit? [00:06] activelow this can be measured and quantified too, without genome sequencing involved of cause: reaction time, time to break and distance passed at maximum and minimum speeds etc. [00:08] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:10] activelow in cities, often, even when maximum 30Km/h are permitted only, those 30Km/h are too fast in various places [00:11] activelow and i had noticed, since i am living in a city, even 30Km/h max do not prevent speeding. many idiots go full throttle from 0 to 30Km/h every few meters with a full stop at the next crossroad [00:12] activelow most of the time i cannot open the window, even during night time 4o'clock in the morning, i counted 4 speeders in 30 minutes, with their noise, and air pollution [00:20] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [00:20] *Snuupy4 (~Snuupy@user/snuupy) has joined #techrights [00:20] *Snuupy has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [00:20] *Noisytoot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:20] *Snuupy4 is now known as Snuupy [00:20] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [00:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:36] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot [00:46] *inky__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:46] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.137) has joined #techrights [00:51] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/07/19/94530553a6a9bb49.jpg ● Aug 14 [01:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 89.65 swarm size (avg): 273.31 [01:19] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:24] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:46] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I just realised something: there's absolutely no way I didn't set mlock on before changing the user modes, because I was checking out NickServ's options before I changed the modes. [01:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [02:02] x_ " just put everything on Zoom and no public participation. Stream-only." yeah, politicians like this, then you can just cut off the mic of any "constituents" [02:02] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [02:02] *kingoffrance polymorphs [02:02] CrystalMath joseon crossed 1,300 today [02:02] CrystalMath but currently at 1,280 [02:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I wonder how many of them are just enjoying the show. [02:04] CrystalMath we got a support question today [02:04] CrystalMath on a channel [02:06] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's actually interesting how even Apache OpenOffice is still downloaded and used by an unaware public, but Joseon can only get that. [02:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 80.75 swarm size (avg): 273.26 [02:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I take it ye didn't direct them to a proper channel to ensure that IRC stays useful to them, right? [02:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: there is no proper channel [02:10] CrystalMath at least not IRC [02:11] CrystalMath but i did tell them the only way to reach the developers, because this is a feature request (github.com) [02:22] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21071373 [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5673280) [02:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:23] XRevan86 MinceR: Guess the country. [02:23] MinceR russia [02:24] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:24] XRevan86 MinceR: That's highly offensive, this is Ukraine :P [02:24] MinceR lol [02:24] MinceR i couldn't see any ukrainian-specific characters [02:25] XRevan86 yea, there aren't any, this could pass as Russian but the use of "" here is highly colloquial [02:25] MinceR :) [02:25] XRevan86 " " [02:25] XRevan86 * [02:25] MinceR the "" part already looks colloquial to me [02:26] MinceR (there's no "" in there) [02:26] XRevan86 MinceR: Ah, that it's not ""? [02:27] MinceR yeah [02:27] XRevan86 True, it uses personal language, that's indeed pretty unofficial-looking. [02:28] XRevan86 but that doesn't count as colloquial, rather it's just out of place [02:28] MinceR :) [02:29] XRevan86 "Informal", that's the word. [02:29] MinceR yeah [02:30] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [02:31] XRevan86 This particular difference in preposition use is something I have no grasp on. [02:31] kingoffrance re: Could you pass an open source vocabulary quiz? - TechRepublic LF-connected sites working overtime to maintain this illusion #GNU never existed and does not exist <-- that sounds about right. make it seem like a quiz to EEE [02:31] XRevan86 Ukrainian also has the preposition "" with the same meaning, but sometimes [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-130821.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 13, 2021 [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130821.txt Read the log now... 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[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 13, 2021 [02:40] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-13.txt [02:42] XRevan86 MinceR: I'm curious if psydruid will be able to tell :). [02:44] XRevan86 Also GT translates that as " ". [02:44] XRevan86 to Serbian [02:44] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [02:45] XRevan86 Though it also translates as " " depending on the preposition. Never mind, it fails. [02:45] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #techrights [02:45] XRevan86 CrystalMath: How'd ye say "park by the rules" in Serbian? [02:46] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [02:47] AdmFubar had a storm come by and the power dropped out long enough to shut everything down [02:47] XRevan86 AdmFubar: oups [02:47] MinceR here i have 1 circuit that either has a short or the breaker is broken [02:48] MinceR and of course no electricians are willing to work anymore in hungary [02:52] AdmFubar looks like it is time to repair it yourself....:/ [02:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: err... "parkirajte pravilno" i guess? [02:56] CrystalMath in what context? literally parking a car? [02:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: not "correctly" but "under rules" [02:57] CrystalMath XRevan86: "po propisima" is probably best [02:57] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Then "", O.K. [02:58] CrystalMath yeah there's quite some similarities between ukranian and serbian [02:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Heh, Russian: " ", Ukrainian: " ". ● Aug 14 [03:00] CrystalMath ah [03:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:04] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I kind of expected the Joseon's website to be up after the migration of the IRC network. The relationship between the three brands is becoming increasingly more confusing. [03:05] XRevan86 Where does IRC.com end and freenode, where does freenode end and Joseon begin? [03:06] MinceR you mean where are the boundaries between irc.com, freenode and joseon :> [03:06] XRevan86 yes [03:06] XRevan86 It looks like a big mush. [03:07] CrystalMath well it's simple... freenode is IRC [03:07] MinceR and what does _that_ mean? [03:07] CrystalMath and... freenode is also official territory of the joseon empire [03:07] XRevan86 MinceR: I think that was a joke. [03:07] kingoffrance are you implying its not decentralized :) [03:07] CrystalMath MinceR: i don't see how it can be any clearer [03:07] MinceR if i only connect to IRCsource, am i not using IRC or am i using freenode without knowing it? [03:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 34.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 117.78 swarm size (avg): 273.20 [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 110343 total Total pages: 37063 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 5 days ago [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.6 GB TotalOut: 426 MB [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:10] *job (~job@z6bqehv8hmay2.irc) has joined #techrights [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot QmaFyToU47jF5UkU2CTtva1HKGz8X6fJ9MiRnoN9EVF2PR [03:13] XRevan86 My gosh it's chilly in here. [03:13] MinceR must be nice [03:13] *XRevan86 is shivering. [03:13] XRevan86 while in bed [03:14] MinceR it's over 26 C in here [03:14] DaemonFC does the yellow time reduction prevent a safe full stop, when cars do not exceed speed limit? [03:14] MinceR i don't know exactly because the thermometer i use here would be powered via mains and there's no power in that circuit now [03:14] DaemonFC 1.5 seconds warning that it's about to turn red and you'll get a ticket. [03:15] XRevan86 14 outside, didn't measure inside. [03:15] DaemonFC Speed limit 40. [03:15] DaemonFC Slam the brakes and someone rear ends you. [03:15] MinceR 23 C outside [03:15] DaemonFC That's usually how it goes. [03:15] XRevan86 MinceR: I have to admit, it is better than when it was 32 [03:16] MinceR the thermometer that's working off batteries has a clock in it with a DCF77 receiver, but it loses the signal every day [03:16] XRevan86 Makes one regret not having air conditioning. [03:16] MinceR i should have ordered one with no clock in it, provided i could order one [03:17] MinceR there's no AC here, and even if there was, it probably wouldn't be able to function over the shitty wiring and equipment we have here [03:17] MinceR which nobody will fix [03:17] MinceR and my apartment is also a dump [03:17] MinceR i'll have to leave the country and rent an apartment if i want to live under civilized conditions [03:17] XRevan86 MinceR: Civilised conditions are overrated. [03:19] MinceR not really [03:20] *XRevan86 didn't actually mean it. [03:20] MinceR :> [03:21] XRevan86 MinceR: Ye already have dual citizenship, why not just relocate [03:21] XRevan86 to Joseon [03:21] MinceR lol [03:21] MinceR it's impossible to relocate to joseon, as it has no territory [03:21] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/toddler-fires-gun-kills-mother-during-zoom-video-call-in-florida/ [03:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Toddler fires gun, kills mother during Zoom video call in Florida | WGN-TV [03:22] XRevan86 MinceR: It has virtual territory, what are ye talking about [03:22] DaemonFC I replied: "A member of the Zoom call dialed 911 when the mother, Shamaya Lynn, 21, appeared to be in need of help." [03:22] DaemonFC She got shot and "appeared to be in need of help". Yeah, that's usually what happens when you get shot. Very good reporting. Quit leaving loaded guns for your children to find. [03:22] DaemonFC "whether or not any charges will be filed against the owner of the gun" [03:22] DaemonFC Left there by the slam piece or was it actually the father? Chicago wants to know. [03:22] MinceR unless you mean Joseon Minjujuui Inmin Gonghwaguk, where i definitely don't want to go [03:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Nah, the Empire. [03:22] MinceR i'd need a time machine to go there [03:22] MinceR and there are nicer times to go to [03:23] XRevan86 MinceR: Maybe Lee can arrange something in the Imperial Family office for a loyal subject of his Empire. [03:23] MinceR i'm not a loyal subject of anyone [03:24] XRevan86 MinceR: Right, a local then [03:24] MinceR that's impossible, given the lack of territory [03:25] XRevan86 The fairy tale narrative I'm trying to construct is attacked with nit-picking. [03:25] MinceR well, that's kind of why it's a fairy tale narrative [03:25] MinceR it conflicts with facts [03:26] XRevan86 MinceR: Andrew Lee will show you all when he applies this virtual territory under international law [03:26] MinceR ooh [03:26] MinceR i can hardly wait [03:26] XRevan86 Same :) [03:26] MinceR states deserve to be knocked down a peg or two anyway [03:27] XRevan86 MinceR: Yea, they'll be undermined by an equivalent of a Minetest server. [03:28] MinceR could be worse [03:28] MinceR it could be a microsoft minecraft server [03:28] MinceR if they fail to be undermined, that's no surprise [03:28] MinceR if they are undermined, all the better for most of us [03:28] XRevan86 Some kids were charged with terrorism for threats to bomb FSB in Minecraft. [03:28] MinceR :> [03:29] XRevan86 Virtual territory is serious business, yes. [03:30] DaemonFC International Laws are my favorite. [03:30] DaemonFC :) [03:31] DaemonFC We all know that every country abides by treaty obligations, both to the letter and the spirit in which they were intended. [03:31] XRevan86 Honestly if he has combined blockchain with something like Minetest it would've been a more fun project to look at than whatever Joseon/freenode/IRC.com is. [03:31] DaemonFC Especially Russia and China. [03:31] XRevan86 * had [03:31] MinceR oh yeah [03:32] MinceR just like hungary abides by their obligations as a member of the EU [03:32] DaemonFC Trump was basically tearing them all up as fast as he could go "Well they're not abiding by it.". Then you asked for proof, and it never happened. [03:32] MinceR https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-minecraft [03:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowyourmeme.com | "In Minecraft" | Know Your Meme [03:34] XRevan86 > Because of this, the true spread can be hard to find [03:34] XRevan86 Also it's easy to come up with independently. 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[03:52] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 14 [04:00] AdmFubar https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nvidia-linux-drivers-causing-random-hard-crashes-and-now-major-security-risk-still-not [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Nvidia Linux drivers causing random hard crashes and now a major security risk still not fixed after 5+ months | Linux Journal [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 74.38 swarm size (avg): 273.17 [04:08] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:23] *birkoff (birkoff@birkoff.thunderirc.net) has joined #techrights [04:23] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [04:23] *birkoff (birkoff@user/birkoff) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [05:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [05:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 52.58 swarm size (avg): 273.12 [05:09] psydruid I was looking at prices of new x86 hardware yesterday and saw that there are no more low-price options left other than buying used systems and boards [05:20] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [05:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [06:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 28.95 swarm size (avg): 273.09 [06:21] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [06:54] activelow psydruid: what is the "low price" budget? [06:54] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:56] psydruid activelow, I was looking at boards up to 100 [06:56] psydruid I found a few [06:57] psydruid but those mostly use older chips [06:57] activelow board without case and power supply? [06:57] psydruid yes [06:57] psydruid a case and power supply will make things quite a bit more expensive ● Aug 14 [07:00] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:02] activelow psydruid: seems to be true prices for Atom ITX boards have increased [07:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 45.10 swarm size (avg): 273.07 ● Aug 14 [08:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 57.80 swarm size (avg): 273.03 [08:19] *hgc has quit (Quit: Ping timeout 2fh30j) [08:19] *hgc (~hgc@ush2egwiyrsas.irc) has joined #techrights [08:24] *hgc has quit (Quit: Ping timeout 2fh30j) [08:24] *hgc (~hgc@ush2egwiyrsas.irc) has joined #techrights [08:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:53] *hgc has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.0.1) [08:54] *hgc (~hgc@ush2egwiyrsas.irc) has joined #techrights [08:55] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, August 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:55] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:56] techrights-news An #EPO Administrative Council Expos Part IX: There Are Indications of a Violation of the Law http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/epo-ac-violation-of-the-law/ #patents #europe #soip #corruption [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part IX: There Are Indications of a Violation of the Law | Techrights [08:57] techrights-news [Meme] North #Macedonia is the Same as #Germany http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/north-macedonia-in-map/ #europe #corruption #epo [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] North Macedonia is the Same as Germany | Techrights [08:58] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154487 #Linux #TuxMachines [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines ● Aug 14 [09:01] techrights-news This week in KDE: bugfixes and UI improvements galore http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: bugfixes and UI improvements galore | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154489 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.75 swarm size (avg): 273.01 [09:08] activelow sure, North Macedonia too has to be treated fair with regards to European Patents, even if it is a small country. [09:08] activelow no idea what the voting rights and which effect votes have. [09:10] schestowitz-TR it's problem NOT of voting RIGHTS [09:10] schestowitz-TR but of voting weight [09:11] schestowitz-TR imagine s tiny town in Germany having the same say as Berlin with x100 the population [09:11] activelow good question btw. since it is a basic principle of EU, smaller minority members may not simply be overruled by big nations. that's democracy, minorities and their interests are represented, recognised, and not simply overruled by bigger size. [09:11] schestowitz-TR in terms of European Patents, Germany is like x10,000 Macedonia [09:13] activelow "germany", difficult to say, since germany itself too is a federal state consisting of 16. [09:13] activelow don't know whom Macedonia, and their language, is federated with, greece, bulgaria, romania? [09:14] techrights-news NEWS #DanLangille How I took my name servers offline by adding a new hostname https://dan.langille.org/2021/08/13/how-i-took-my-name-servers-offline-by-adding-a-new-hostname/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | How I took my name servers offline by adding a new hostname Dan Langille's Other Diary [09:14] schestowitz-TR activelow: it's independent [09:14] schestowitz-TR speaks bulgarian [09:14] schestowitz-TR some speak albanian [09:15] schestowitz "Sentiments among ethnic Albanians of North Macedonia are traditionally strongly pro-EU." [09:15] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_North_Macedonia_to_the_European_Union [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Accession of North Macedonia to the European Union - Wikipedia [09:15] activelow btw. the recent reform of the voting system in germany too is concerned with smaller regions and how these are represented with direct delegate mandates (cannot explain all the details, in principle there is a conflict of interests always) [09:15] techrights-news NEWS #QuirksMode #WebBrowsers Breaking the web forward https://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2021/08/breaking_the_we.html [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quirksmode.org | Breaking the web forward - QuirksBlog [09:17] techrights-news NEWS #JonUdell #sql #programming pl/python metaprogramming https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/08/13/pl-python-metaprogramming/ [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | pl/python metaprogramming Jon Udell [09:21] activelow hopefully macedonia doesn't abuse it's overrepresented powers. this seems to be the issue anyway, how such overrepresentation is prone to corruption, if at all. [09:21] activelow and if it occured, don't know, if and how corruption can be taken down. [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #FoodTank #GMO #monopolies #Africa Faith Leaders Call on The #GatesFoundation to Drop African Green Revolution https://foodtank.com/news/2021/08/african-faith-leaders-call-on-the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation/ [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foodtank.com | African Faith Leaders Call on The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to Drop African Green Revolution Food Tank [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #IATP #Health #colonialism #billgates #greed New #AGRA Reports Offer Little Evidence to Justify Continued Donor Support https://www.iatp.org/documents/new-agra-reports-offer-little-evidence-justify-continued-donor-support [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iatp.org | New AGRA Reports Offer Little Evidence to Justify Continued Donor Support | IATP [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #SAFCEI #Africa #billgates #greed Press Release: African Faith Communities Tell #GatesFoundation , Big Farming is No Solution for Africa https://safcei.org/press-release-african-faith-communities-tell-gates-foundation-big-farming-is-no-solution-for-africa/ [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-safcei.org | Press Release: African Faith Communities Tell Gates Foundation, Big Farming is No Solution for Africa | SAFCEI [09:24] schestowitz-TR Techrighs wrote a LOT about this AAAAGGGGESSS ago [09:24] schestowitz-TR where was the MSM? [09:24] schestowitz-TR taking bribes from pervert Bill [09:26] activelow btw. macedonian language (2 million people) seems to be associated with bulgarian (7 million people), and maybe some of those regional entities could be federated to coordinate some of their common interest? [09:27] techrights-news NEWS #NLTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Police removed 218,000 photos from #facialrecognition database last year https://nltimes.nl/2021/07/23/police-removed-218000-photos-facial-recognition-database-last-year [09:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nltimes.nl | Police removed 218,000 photos from facial recognition database last year | NL Times [09:28] schestowitz-TR activelow: albanian-macedonians [09:28] schestowitz-TR and albania [09:29] activelow schestowitz-TR: checked it a moment ago, albania is a seperate language realm again it seems, not unrelated to bulgaria, greece or any other [09:31] activelow the macedonian speakers could federate and coordinate with bulgaria to represent their interests in EU. similar to what german *federal* states do, unify to represent common interests instead of posing as individual national entities of Bavaria or Saxony and the others (except Austria). [09:41] activelow 60% of the albanian vocabulary is latin origin, so maybe albania could coordinate with romania as a somehwat related language realm? [09:44] activelow then the representation could be bulgaria+macedonian and romanian+albanian as federated democratric entities based on common language roots, instead of some duchy kingdoms and balkan family clans overrerepresented 10000:1 [09:49] activelow this is a fundemental issue. in principle legal and business entities must correctly identify beforehand any further legal proceeding can be discussed. instead of declaring a kingdom of schestowitz with inhabitants of techrights nation claming representation at EPO as a nation state ● Aug 14 [10:04] techrights-news NEWS #ITWeb #Politics SITA rules out open source, seeks bespoke solution for #DMRE https://www.itweb.co.za/content/P3gQ2MGxOmgqnRD1 No open-source solutions will be considered, and the end product (intellectual [sic] property [sic]) must the owned by the department. [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | SITA rules out open source, seeks bespoke solution for DMRE | ITWeb [10:12] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #DigitalRestrictions #Netflix isnt the savior #Nollywood needs https://www.theverge.com/22621845/netflix-nigeria-nollywood-streaming-films [10:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Netflix isnt the savior Nollywood needs - The Verge [10:13] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #SoftwarePatents #swpats A judge has ruled that #Google infringed on Sonos patents https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/13/22623977/sonos-google-patent-lawsuit-itc-judge-initial-ruling-infringement [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | A judge has ruled that Google infringed on Sonos patents - The Verge [10:13] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #SoftwarePatents #swpats #Google Infringed on Patents Owned by Sonos, a Trade Judge Says https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/technology/google-sonos-patents.html [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Google Infringed on Sonos Patents, Judge Says - The New York Times [10:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:15] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:18] techrights-news Early last year some of the enablers of #EPO Presidents #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos got in serious trouble in their home country; we look closely at the details http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/epo-ac-violation-of-the-law/ [10:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part IX: There Are Indications of a Violation of the Law | Techrights [10:20] techrights-news A very important reminder that, however counter-intuitively, at the Administrative Council of the #EPO the vote of #NorthMacedonia carries the same weight as #Germany s ; #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos have taken advantage of it http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/north-macedonia-in-map/ [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] North Macedonia is the Same as Germany | Techrights [10:27] schestowitz x https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Download Ubuntu Desktop | Download | Ubuntu [10:27] schestowitz # promoting WeaSeL and ubuntu guest VMs on legacy hosts [10:27] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:34] activelow i think the issue is the incorrect identification of "north macedonia" as a nation state, instead of a federal entity of it's association to Romania and Bulgaria [10:36] activelow although north macodenia is a distinct federal entity, it should not misrepresent as an indpendent nation state at the EPO [10:37] activelow instead, north macedonia should federate with it's associates, similar to what "free states" of saxony and bavaria do as the "federal republic of deutschland [10:37] activelow " [10:38] activelow the "free state of saxony" does not claim national authority and representation at the EPO with an ilegitimate overrepresentation [10:39] activelow and the "free state of saxony" with a particular german language dialect has twice as many inhabitants as north macedonia, and doesn't claim national authority at the EPO [10:41] activelow schestowitz: this is the key to understanding, that north-macedonia seems to follow medieval age tradition of duchy-kingdoms instead of modern democratic federal nation states, but claims democratic representation nonetheless [10:41] activelow if north macedonia insists on democratic representation then it should do so as the "free state of saxony" does, as a federated member with it's allies: bulgaria and romania [10:42] activelow while saxony is federated with Germany [10:44] activelow and, if north macedonia does not correctly identify as legal entity of a federated region then it's representation at EPO itself is ilegitimate [10:45] activelow "free state of saxony" does not declare "independence" either for it's vote 16x times as heavy as it would as a federated member of Deutschland [10:47] activelow if EPO cannot at least recognise the legal principle of the correct identification of legal subjects, then it's entire organization is structurally corrupted [10:56] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Police Visit Pirate IPTV Suppliers' Homes to Serve Cease-and-Desist Notices https://torrentfreak.com/police-visit-pirate-iptv-suppliers-homes-to-serve-cease-and-desist-notices-210813/ [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Police Visit Pirate IPTV Suppliers' Homes to Serve Cease-and-Desist Notices * TorrentFreak [10:56] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Court Orders #RomUniverse to Destroy Pirated Nintendo Games and Stay Offline https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-romuniverse-to-destroy-pirated-nintendo-games-and-stay-offline-210813/ [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Orders RomUniverse to Destroy Pirated Nintendo Games and Stay Offline * TorrentFreak ● Aug 14 [11:01] schestowitz-TR activelow: it is corrupted on many levels [11:01] schestowitz-TR and further corrupted by the germany goverment [11:02] schestowitz-TR with its so-called consumer protection and 'justice' ministry [11:02] schestowitz-TR it's a circus [11:02] schestowitz-TR germany's goverment is knowingly complicit [11:02] schestowitz-TR for personal gain [11:03] schestowitz-TR at the expense of the nation's status/reputation [11:04] techrights-news NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Belarus blacklists blocked media outlet Tut.by and new publication Zerkalo.io as extremist https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/13/belarus-blacklists-blocked-media-outlet-tut-by-and-new-publication-zerkalo-io-as-extremist [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [11:07] activelow tend to agree when i read my response letter to court. and the "german" court made a similar mistake, to not at least insist on correct identification of legal subjects involved with the correct company name and address of each. [11:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.38 swarm size (avg): 272.98 [11:08] activelow since this is what caused the legal conflict, that some companies and traders did not correctly identify, and then claiming no correct invoice was necessary anymore based on dubious and fraudulent arguments [11:09] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@aws6v58dihrxk.irc) has joined #techrights [11:09] activelow and then, even insist on a case dealt with at court, diverting responsibility towards each other as it serves them best [11:10] activelow while I insist on correct invoice, and the court and "judge" even followed the reasoning since no clear identification of legal subjects was possible no invoice was necessary [11:10] activelow this was a "german" judge deciding [11:10] DaemonFC https://www.wane.com/community/health/coronavirus/indiana-hospital-creating-patient-beds-in-offices-storage-areas-due-to-covid-19-surge/ [11:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indiana hospital creating patient beds in offices, storage areas due to COVID-19 surge | WANE 15 [11:12] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: some people still insist it's not worse than a flu... [11:13] DaemonFC Many people do. [11:14] schestowitz-TR fewer over time [11:14] schestowitz-TR because they die [11:15] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch The Only Way to End the #Pandemic https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/13/the-only-way-to-end-the-pandemic/ [11:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Only Way to End the Pandemic - CounterPunch.org [11:15] DaemonFC activelow, I have no idea what to tell you. Most people who have had a few dealings with the police or the courts don't even want to approach them whem they're the victim of a crime. [11:16] DaemonFC You may think you're in there telling them all about this horrible thing that happened to you, and they're in there writing down a false narrative that flips it around on you. [11:16] DaemonFC They do whatever they feel like doing, so it's not safe to have any dealings with them. [11:16] activelow yes, and i got documented evidence now, signed by a "german" judge [11:17] DaemonFC That Breaking Bad episode where Walt was trying to negotiate with the neo-Nazi gang to spare Hank's life? [11:17] DaemonFC Hank refuses to beg and turns to Walt and says, "You're the smartest guy I know, and you're too dumb to see. They made up their mind five minutes ago.". [11:18] DaemonFC That's how the police operate. Like the neo-Nazi gang in that scene. [11:18] DaemonFC They have their mind made up early on and they don't say anything and they keep listening in case you say anything that they're interested in. [11:18] DaemonFC But wherever this is heading, that's where it's going fairly early on. [11:19] DaemonFC You're not going to talk your way out of it. [11:19] DaemonFC And they'll put at least the damaging parts down in their little report. Leaving out anything you said that may help you. Maybe lying to make their case stronger. [11:20] DaemonFC Dealing with them doesn't help you. All you can really do is not draw attention and hope they're so busy being a pox on somebody else that you're not worth their time. [11:22] DaemonFC The mechanism of the state is that they worry about their own power, protecting the strong from the weak, and being mean to people who can't do much about it, mostly randomly. [11:22] schestowitz-TR resonates... [11:22] DaemonFC That third part has a purpose too. If they can keep people afraid, that's good for them. [11:23] DaemonFC The civil court proceedings are interesting. It always benefits lawyers. [11:23] DaemonFC Overall, it benefits lawyers no matter how it goes in there. You win, they win, overall, the lawyers win out over everyone. [11:24] DaemonFC Take a divorce case. Both people get a lawyer. [11:24] DaemonFC Even if one person makes off with 2/3rds of the marital estate, both the lawyers still get paid. [11:24] activelow I'll not proceed at this court or with any lawyer [11:24] DaemonFC What do they care who "wins"? [11:24] activelow if facts and evidence are not recognised, and basic legal principles ignored then it is futile [11:24] DaemonFC That's how my mom and dad got divorced. [11:25] activelow DaemonFC: well, i explained too i cannot conduct legal business anymore, without an "legal security" [11:25] activelow any [11:25] DaemonFC They were paying lawyers $500 an hour to stand there and argue for 3 hours over who got a dining room set that could have been replaced for under $800. [11:25] activelow i asked for a correct invoice to pay [11:25] activelow this didn't require any lawyer or court [11:26] DaemonFC The lawyers walk off with $3,000 over an $800 dining room set just so my mom and dad could argue bitterly in front of a judge about it. [11:26] schestowitz-TR I see... [11:27] DaemonFC Lawyers love marriage. The more marriage, the more divorce. The more divorce, the more irrational clients they have who hate each other so much at that point that they'll spend any amount of money trying to screw the other one a little harder. [11:28] DaemonFC In the last divorce, mom threw her attorney's fees into her bankruptcy and her ex-husband just didn't pay his and had one more person suing him and then standing in line to dock his paychecks. [11:29] DaemonFC Lawyers operate like some kind of criminal. "Oh half up front and half later.". [11:29] DaemonFC Well, she paid the half up front part. [11:30] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [11:30] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [11:30] DaemonFC It was still more money than the guy should have gotten for the actual "work". [11:30] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [11:30] DaemonFC But that's how things go with lawyers. [11:31] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.162.157) has joined #techrights [11:31] DaemonFC About 7-8 hours of actual court time and responding back and forth to some letters and drawing up a complaint. [11:31] DaemonFC $5,000 up front, $5,000 later. Why not? [11:32] DaemonFC These lawyers are onto something "Gray Divorce" is a phenomenon now. Demand for lawyers is red hot. The nest is empty and these people who have hated each other for decades but left it simmering on the back burner are splitting up. [11:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, In theory, when you hire a lawyer, there's a bar that imposes ethical requirements on them, alongside the court, to require them to represent your side of things as well as possible and to avoid conflicts of interest. [11:34] DaemonFC In fact, you rarely hear of a lawyer being disciplined, much less disbarred. [11:34] DaemonFC Maybe 1-2% of them will be over the course of a career, which is pretty low for a profession that's up there with used car salesman. [11:36] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The cops came out to a house in Huntington, Indiana a few days ago. [11:36] DaemonFC They had to call in a SWAT team from Fort Wayne, complete with the tank. [11:36] DaemonFC The guy ended up shooting himself in the head (died on the scene). [11:37] DaemonFC Turns out that all they wanted him on was failure to pay child support. In Indiana that can be a low level felony now. There's more felonies there than there were before the Republicans solidified their control over the government. They made corrupt deals with private prison companies to maintain higher prison occupancy rates. [11:38] DaemonFC Anyway, even though it was a felony, it was the lowest level, so he could have pleaded down to a misdemeanor of some sort and at that point they don't want you that bad because they'll have to stick you in a county jail largely at their expense. [11:39] DaemonFC Anyway, the pro-life party reformed the code, and a man committed suicide over failure to pay support. They'll probably be getting a lot of money out of him now. [11:39] DaemonFC Putting men in jail for failure to pay support was always stupid. [11:40] DaemonFC They always had other options like putting a lien on your property, garnishing wages, and intercepting tax returns. [11:40] DaemonFC If it piles up so high that you still owe when you draw Social Security, they can take that too. [11:41] DaemonFC One of the reasons I said "I'm glad I'll never have kids." is that it puts a fascist out of control police state in control of one more major part of your life. [11:41] DaemonFC It's just not worth it. [11:42] DaemonFC Not only do you need to find a million dollars laying around somewhere (growing on trees, maybe), but if you screw up, you'll have everything from police to judges to social workers crawling out the wazoo. Not worth it. [11:42] DaemonFC And I think people are seeing that now. (Lowest population growth in America since the Depression.). [11:43] DaemonFC Sometimes they release the army of darkness on you because you let your child walk the dog in the front lawn. [11:43] DaemonFC I mean, who needs that when you can't even find child care while you're at work, or afford it? [11:45] DaemonFC https://www.wane.com/news/washington-dc/biden-administration-launches-plans-to-combat-inflation/ [11:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden administration launches plans to combat inflation | WANE 15 [11:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, So inflation is officially a "problem" now. [11:49] DaemonFC 5.4%. I don't know who they think they're fooling. [11:50] DaemonFC The price to eat at the Chinese restaurant is up over 25% in the course of a year. [11:50] DaemonFC That's easy to keep track of because everyone who goes to eat at a buffet pays the same price. [11:56] activelow DaemonFC: i kept record of inflation since east-germay 1990 and meanwhile two currency swaps in germany: prices for a bun increased 15x in 30years (more than ~1000%) inflation for a hotdog bun sized biscuit [11:57] DaemonFC Welp.... schestowitz-TR Today I Learned something new about Leona Helmsley, the "Queen of Mean". [11:57] DaemonFC She disinherited some of her family from the will and left it to her dog instead. [11:57] DaemonFC Which is something I figure my dad will do unless he leaves it all to Scientology or the guy who says a spaceship is coming for him and Jan. [11:58] DaemonFC But they successfully challenged the will because she was "not of sound mind" when she wrote it. [11:58] DaemonFC Maybe I should start taking screenshots of dad's Facebook wall. [11:59] activelow that's roughly 10% annually for 30years price increase of a bun, although east-german price structure was altered which makes it difficult to compare [11:59] activelow officially inflation is below 2% in germany ● Aug 14 [12:00] DaemonFC If the judge rules against me, I can always say, "Well, then nobody should get the money because they didn't die.". Judge: "What do you mean?". Me: "Well, in accordance with their beliefs, their spirits went on to live in a Dyson Sphere somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse." [12:04] DaemonFC And if the judge demands proof that they are on a Dyson Sphere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse, I can pull out the old chestnut that religious people always use. "Prove they aren't.". [12:05] DaemonFC You can't prove they aren't because you can't go around searching all of space for them, and it's unlikely that our technology ever would allow for it. Therefore I win. [12:07] techrights-news Old: Gathered evidence of why #systemd sucks | systemd-free linux community https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2020/01/05/294/ #sysdfree [12:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | Gathered evidence of why systemd sucks | systemd-free linux community [12:08] DaemonFC https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2021/04/19/345/ [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | startpage.com waterfox browser and w3m text browsing gstatic.com | systemd-free linux community [12:08] DaemonFC Vivaldi is pushing Startpage now, schestowitz-TR [12:09] schestowitz-TR they are system1-owned [12:09] DaemonFC Pitching "privacy", although their browser still defaults to Bing. [12:09] schestowitz-TR same for waterfox [12:09] schestowitz-TR surveillance companies [12:09] DaemonFC Which is at least as creepy as Google. [12:09] schestowitz-TR spying while lying about "privacy" [12:09] schestowitz-TR same malicious firm [12:10] DaemonFC All these forks of Chrome and nobody can implement the one feature I want, which is to stop all of these godfuckingdamned autoplay videos that shout at me because I wanted to READ a news article. [12:10] DaemonFC Usually while I'm listening to an MP3 or watching a movie. [12:11] DaemonFC There's a clumsy hack, which is to install NoScript and then allow JavaScript everywhere, but don't allow anything that's not a "trusted" site to play video, and make that the only restriction. [12:11] DaemonFC It works, but it's not ideal. [12:12] DaemonFC With "modern" software taking away all of the user's preferences and pissing on the user, and just not being very well written, clumsy hacks are all we have left. [12:12] *Techrights-sec has quit (connection closed) [12:12] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:14] DaemonFC I love how with Chrome, Edge, Vivaldi, and Brave, I'll just be listening to a movie or something on my TV and surround system and then a page will load and CNN is all "GOVERNOR CUOMO RESIGNED TODAY BECAUSE HE WAS GRABBING WOMEN BY THE PUSSY! HERE'S CUOMO IN YOUR FACE! HEY ASSHOLES< I'M RESIGNING BECAUSE I LOVED ALL OF YOU IN INAPPROPRIATE WAYS AND YOU COULD APPRECIATE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!11111111". [12:15] DaemonFC *couldn't [12:15] DaemonFC But I mean, it's like. Fuck. I hate web videos. [12:15] DaemonFC 99% of them are just fucking shit you don't want to see or hear, and so Google made them mandatory. [12:16] DaemonFC Like, it literally had a a "block autoplay" feature and then they removed it. [12:16] schestowitz-TR yeah [12:16] schestowitz-TR I noticed that [12:16] schestowitz-TR maybe paid to remove it [12:16] activelow i am blacklisting various DNS hosts, privoxy adblocker, and almost all advertisements are gone [12:17] activelow for 4 years i rarely notice any [12:17] DaemonFC Even Mandy got so annoyed by Youtube ads that he had me install F-Droid on his Samsung tablet to get NewPipe. [12:17] DaemonFC Every 30 seconds, you've got a Liberty Mutual ad with that fucking ostrich in your face because you wanted to know where the air filter is at on your car. [12:18] activelow youtube is defunct with my old non-rust mozilla, javascript deadlocks, gladly since adblocking youtube was not possible (although some time ago privoxy even did this reliably) [12:19] schestowitz-TR [12:17] Even Mandy got so annoyed by Youtube ads that he had me install F-Droid on his Samsung tablet to get NewPipe. [12:19] schestowitz-TR maybe you missed it, but less than a week ago we did a script [12:19] DaemonFC When I was a teenager and I was complaining about how slow it was to load image-heavy websites on my dial up connection, the lady down at the ISP recommended the Lynx browser. [12:19] schestowitz-TR it converts youtube urls to something else [12:19] DaemonFC When it was dial up, the big nuisance was jpegs that were bigger than the content. [12:20] schestowitz-TR now it's also js frameworks [12:20] schestowitz-TR even FONTS [12:20] DaemonFC Now it's hundreds of MB of video on top of dozens of MB of scripts and crap, half of which are only there to track you and run ads. [12:20] schestowitz-TR they have you download a whole glyphs library... for ONE WEB PAGE [12:20] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: do you read techrights over gemini? [12:21] schestowitz-TR or not yet? sometimes? [12:21] DaemonFC No, in the web browser. [12:21] DaemonFC I was poking around with Vivaldi some more the other day. [12:21] DaemonFC The new email client is pretty nice. [12:21] DaemonFC You can tell they did a lot of work on that. [12:21] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:22] DaemonFC A lot of sites complain about your ad blocker though, with the built-in one. [12:22] schestowitz-TR Vivaldi is not trustworthy [12:23] schestowitz-TR not just because it is proprietary [12:23] DaemonFC I noticed IBM Weather Channel demands it to be turned off or else you "must" buy a "Premium Weather" account from them. [12:23] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Not just weather! PREMIUM WEATHER! [12:23] schestowitz-TR lol [12:23] schestowitz-TR get it from the cli like I di [12:23] DaemonFC Would you like your weather without ads and in 15 minute intervals? [12:24] schestowitz-TR it ruins in a loop every 20 mins [12:24] activelow i arrived at dead end with browsers: mozilla and rust, chromium based ones are bloated in size i am not willing to download the sources for (1.5GiB every few days), and webkit failed to compile last time i tried [12:25] activelow the only rudimentary modern browser remaining is some non-rust mozilla, which fails often with youtube due to javascript deadlocks, but at least renders 99% of modern sites correctly [12:25] schestowitz-TR you should bypass youtube [12:26] activelow yes, mostly do, youtube-dl if desired, but this requires regular updates [12:26] activelow which are not worth the effort for most of the youtube nonsense [12:26] schestowitz VIDEO=$(echo $URL | sed 's/https:\/\/www\.youtube.com/https:\/\/yewtu\.be/') [12:26] schestowitz URL=$(echo $VIDEO | sed 's/https:\/\/youtube\.com/https:\/\/yewtu\.be/') [12:27] activelow with the proxied site my mozilla reported video could not be rendered due to missing codec, meanwhile youtube does render videos if javascript doesn't deadlock [12:27] activelow i think the javascript deadlocks are related to the advertisements on youtube [12:28] activelow nope, not codec itself "No compatible source was found for this media." [12:28] activelow no idea, irelevant [12:28] activelow browsers are dead end [12:32] activelow techrights videos are rendered nicely [12:33] schestowitz-TR activelow: to spying, the JS [12:33] schestowitz-TR to measure or check what the viewer does [12:33] schestowitz-TR video watches viewer [12:34] schestowitz-TR aka "big data" aka "analytics" aka "AdTech" [12:34] *job has quit (connection closed) [12:35] activelow it is both, a technical plague, and violation of consitutional right of "protection of the secrecy of telecommunications" [12:37] *job (~job@z6bqehv8hmay2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:42] *psydroid__ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [12:42] *psydroid_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:45] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Climate Activists Target Banks' #Greenwashing in Nationwide #DefundLine3 Protests https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/13/climate-activists-target-banks-greenwashing-nationwide-defundline3-protests [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Climate Activists Target Banks' Greenwashing in Nationwide #DefundLine3 Protests | Common Dreams News [12:55] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:55] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:58] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) ● Aug 14 [13:00] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.83.153) has joined #techrights [13:01] DaemonFC https://abc7chicago.com/10948302 [13:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abc7chicago.com | Cook County changes drug test policy after assistant public defender applicants' job offers rescinded over marijuana use - ABC7 Chicago [13:01] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I posted: "Now when you get a public defender to sleep through your trial, it may be because they're high. I would just like to be the first to congratulate Illinois on this landmark reform." [13:02] DaemonFC What a shit show. Now you can finally have Frito Pendejo for the defense. [13:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.11 swarm size (avg): 272.91 [13:11] *inky (~inky@37.252.83.153) has joined #techrights [13:14] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/why-cant-i-find-some-products-at-the-grocery-store/ [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Why cant I find some products at the grocery store? | WGN-TV [13:15] DaemonFC "Shortage of workers at all levels of the supply chain." Unemployment pays 25% more than work and deadbeats who don't pay their bills can no longer be thrown out or have their utilities switched off. [13:15] DaemonFC I wonder what the problem here is. [13:15] DaemonFC I've skipped out on a few creditors. The landlord and the electric company have never been among them. [13:16] DaemonFC Because I'm smart enough to know that I'll probably need a place to live when the dust settles and the landlord can enforce evictions again. And I would like a place to live more than an 80" TV. [13:16] DaemonFC When there's a stack of bills and it goes "Rent, food, Electric, Car Repair, hospital bill from 4 years ago....". [13:17] DaemonFC The lowest priority is the hospital. That's just a hypothetical there. [13:17] DaemonFC If someone has to be screwed, it should be the one that is in a position to do the least harm to you if you don't pay up. [13:18] DaemonFC It's basic triage. [13:19] techrights-news EPO, Europes Second-Largest Organisation, as a Hub of Corrupt #Politics http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/epo-breeds-corrupt-politics/ #europe #epo #corruption #patents [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO, Europes Second-Largest Organisation, as a Hub of Corrupt Politics | Techrights [13:19] DaemonFC If there's a disaster and people are badly injured and some are dying, and you have half as many doctors and paramedics as you need in order to respond to it, you figure out who will definitely live, who will definitely die, and focus your efforts on the cases that could go either way. [13:20] techrights-news #cat https://diaspora-fr.org/uploads/images/2e6a76ce21158b22b28d.jpg via Hissam [13:20] DaemonFC Not having enough money to pay your debts works much the same way. You figure out which things you will die without, which things will cause you do go homeless, which things would be a nuisance if you don't pay but you'll be alright, and which ones can't take much action at all. [13:20] DaemonFC And you go from there. [13:21] schestowitz how many in US are now homeless? [13:21] schestowitz I think we have tons of safety nets here to prvent it [13:21] DaemonFC Well, many people have their landlord so pissed off at them over back rent that while he can't give them the boot now, he won't sign a new lease. [13:21] schestowitz whereas The US has tent cities and people living in their cars [13:21] DaemonFC So as soon as he can evict, he will evict. [13:22] DaemonFC I mean, many are people who could pay and just don't because they'd rather go to Disney and the lease being up for renewal in three months is all of 90 days from now. [13:22] DaemonFC The rent is probably going up $45 a month because that's how he's advertising them now. [13:23] DaemonFC We have to suffer because some asshole is spending all their money toking the reefer while the unpaid rent piles up. [13:23] DaemonFC It's amazing how they have unlimited money for flat screens and marijuana and nothing for rent. [13:24] DaemonFC Is it not? [13:24] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: mind if we go back to tech? [13:24] schestowitz-TR I am trying to come up with article and video topics [13:24] schestowitz-TR this weekend's news will be slow [13:24] DaemonFC The state reports that marijuana sales are booming. [13:24] schestowitz-TR ok [13:24] schestowitz-TR whatever [13:24] schestowitz-TR it's not our focus [13:24] DaemonFC The economy is shit, hyperinflation, but they're selling more dope than ever. [13:24] DaemonFC Dope is for dopes. [13:24] DaemonFC So it follows. [13:25] schestowitz-TR I worry a bit about war on cash [13:25] schestowitz-TR some places here would not accept cash anymore [13:25] schestowitz-TR I could, in theory, protest peacefully [13:25] schestowitz-TR with a banner [13:25] schestowitz-TR nothing police can do as long as I don't raise the voice [13:25] DaemonFC Some places here only accept cash, or charge you 4% more to use a credit card. [13:25] schestowitz-TR "public disturbance" [13:25] schestowitz-TR very vague new laws [13:25] DaemonFC Restaurants are quickly losing their patience with credit cards. [13:25] schestowitz-TR worse than "antisocial behaviour" [13:25] DaemonFC The fees to fund these rewards programs are really pissing them off. [13:26] schestowitz-TR interesting! [13:26] schestowitz-TR So in some places it's the exact opposite [13:26] schestowitz-TR anyway, here they use corona as an excuse [13:26] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Well, that Mexican place, El Famous Burrito, is cash only. [13:26] schestowitz-TR but serve you food they prepare by hand [13:26] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's good news [13:26] schestowitz-TR I didn't know about such places [13:28] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Summer at the Raspberry Pi Store with The Centre for Computing History https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-store-summer-2021/ [13:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Summer at the Raspberry Pi Store with The Centre for Computing History - Raspberry Pi [13:29] DaemonFC They keep prices down by just accepting cash. No debit even, so no card readers at all. [13:29] DaemonFC There's an ATM there. [13:29] DaemonFC Many banks are now giving you a "ATM fee reimbursement" allowance each month. I think Ally was one of the first to do that. [13:29] DaemonFC Back when I shut all my accounts down at Wells Fargo and went online, Ally was doing unlimited fee reimbursement. [13:30] DaemonFC But now it's "up to $10 per statement cycle". They don't charge any, but others might. [13:30] DaemonFC So $10 gets you like 2-3 uses of most other ATMs, or you can use an AllPoint ATM or some others they have no fee agreements with. [13:30] schestowitz-TR we take thousands per year [13:30] DaemonFC I've parked a lot of our money in online savings or treasury bonds. [13:31] schestowitz-TR to avoid touching the ATMs or having their locations track us too much [13:31] DaemonFC With what's going on lately, not getting any interest at all is no longer acceptable. [13:31] schestowitz-TR you can ask for bigger sums inside the branches [13:31] DaemonFC Inflation has gone from a minor persistent nuisance to a major pain in the ass. [13:32] DaemonFC No savings product is going to beat inflation, but many at least slow it down a little. [13:32] schestowitz-TR yeah [13:32] schestowitz-TR got water bill today [13:32] DaemonFC Maybe things normalize somewhat soon. [13:32] schestowitz-TR up by a lot [13:32] schestowitz-TR like 20% [13:33] schestowitz-TR (partly because we don't go to the gym since May, so no showers away) [13:33] DaemonFC Yeah, there's a lot of reasons our rent might go up. The landlord is dealing with bums who won't pay, the city likes to waste money because it's the government, so there goes your water bill through the roof. [13:33] schestowitz-TR inflation here affects also food [13:33] DaemonFC Inflation in general. He wants a certain real profit and has to raise rates because of that. [13:34] schestowitz-TR that can backfire [13:34] schestowitz-TR anyway, back to tech aspects [13:34] schestowitz-TR I appreciate you said some places reject cards [13:34] schestowitz-TR and insist on cash [13:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I got his repair guy in here to fix the leaky toilet tank. [13:34] schestowitz-TR that is actually very encouraging news [13:34] schestowitz-TR we need to rewards places like these [13:34] schestowitz-TR they hold away the bad tide [13:34] schestowitz-TR and you can tell them you choose them BECAUSE they accept bcash [13:35] schestowitz-TR or anonymous clients [13:35] DaemonFC Those waste a ton of water. I can't stand the government. It makes a killing off of leaky toilets because it spends almost no money delivering the water and then charges a fortune for it. [13:35] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you might be better off with a valve [13:35] schestowitz-TR and shut it off when it is not used [13:35] DaemonFC You don't even know that your bill is accurate because "smart" meters can be buggy and there's no actual mechanical dial in there to prove what you used if you have to go to court. [13:36] schestowitz-TR would be cheaper than a plumber in the long run [13:36] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: "smart" meters are for dumb people [13:36] schestowitz-TR who are tricked by threats [13:36] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [13:36] schestowitz-TR and fines [13:36] schestowitz-TR but we pay fines already [13:36] schestowitz-TR annual price hikes for not having one [13:36] DaemonFC Communist Edison gets Illinois to pass laws making them mandatory. [13:36] schestowitz-TR so if you phone they you protest [13:37] DaemonFC They say it "lowers carbon emissions and saves you money". [13:37] schestowitz-TR and they might eventually get the point that customers are pissed off [13:37] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: what lowers carbon emissions? PRODUCING the gadget? [13:37] schestowitz-TR how does it save money? Whose? [13:37] schestowitz-TR the workers they lay offs [13:37] schestowitz-TR so no actual person checks the meter except you? [13:38] schestowitz-TR they also outsource things to "apps" and "sites" [13:38] schestowitz-TR so you become their employe [13:38] schestowitz-TR they give you some GUIs [13:38] schestowitz-TR it''s the same with "self" check-ouy [13:38] schestowitz-TR "be our staff" [13:38] schestowitz-TR avoid the longer queue [13:39] schestowitz-TR if he queue is long you ask ask, "why are so few people in the tills?"| [13:39] schestowitz-TR or, "you need to hire more staff" [13:39] schestowitz-TR people nearby who also stand in line can relate [13:39] schestowitz-TR they know why they avoid these machines [13:40] schestowitz-TR Aldi is starting to push people to "machines" now [13:40] schestowitz-TR they have psychological methods [13:40] schestowitz-TR "ARE YOU PAYING WITH CARD"? [13:40] schestowitz-TR "ARE YOU PAYING WITH CASH"? [13:40] schestowitz-TR they just try to get your attention and get you off the actual queue [13:40] schestowitz-TR you can reply tactfully [13:41] schestowitz-TR "I want actual service" [13:41] schestowitz-TR "You need more people at the tills" [13:41] schestowitz-TR something along those lines [13:42] schestowitz-TR it has more impact if you leave the items in protest and leave [13:42] schestowitz-TR only as a last resort [13:42] schestowitz-TR if they get rude about it [13:43] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Paying People $2,000 To Pretend Binding Arbitration Is Good https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210810/11154147336/us-chamber-commerce-paying-people-2000-to-pretend-binding-arbitration-is-good.shtml [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Chamber Of Commerce Paying People $2,000 To Pretend Binding Arbitration Is Good | Techdirt [13:45] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #hbr Now It's #Harvard Business Review Getting #Section230 Very, Very Wrong https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210812/16294647350/now-harvard-business-review-getting-section-230-very-very-wrong.shtml [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Now It's Harvard Business Review Getting Section 230 Very, Very Wrong | Techdirt [13:46] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright #Copyrights Why Companies Keep Folding to Copyright Pressure, Even If They Shouldn't https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210811/08252047340/why-companies-keep-folding-to-copyright-pressure-even-if-they-shouldnt.shtml [13:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Companies Keep Folding to Copyright Pressure, Even If They Shouldn't | Techdirt [13:48] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Privacy #Surveillance Apple's New Scanning Tools Raising More Concerns, Even Inside #Apple https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210812/23570947352/apples-new-scanning-tools-raising-more-concerns-even-inside-apple.shtml [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's New Scanning Tools Raising More Concerns, Even Inside Apple | Techdirt [13:50] DaemonFC how does it save money? Whose? [13:50] DaemonFC One way, they say, is that it enables "voltage optimization" to your house. [13:51] DaemonFC https://www.explainthatstuff.com/voltage-optimisation.html [13:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.explainthatstuff.com | Voltage optimization: How it works - Explain that Stuff [13:51] DaemonFC It makes sense. [13:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Those little portable washers only use a few dollars of electric per YEAR. [13:52] schestowitz-TR by spying? [13:52] schestowitz-TR they 'study' you [13:52] schestowitz-TR "for better experience" [13:52] DaemonFC Otherwise I have to use the landlords, which randomly bleach your clothes and then the dryer that leaves them soaking wet. [13:52] schestowitz-TR this is the old BS [13:53] DaemonFC Doesn't do anything except make you stand there all day putting quarters in it. [13:53] schestowitz-TR miniscule benefit to excuse gathering data on what people do in their homes [13:54] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The interesting bit here is I can mostly run this laptop off solar, at least during the day. [13:54] DaemonFC It can charge off either of the USB type C ports. [13:54] schestowitz-TR laptops don't take much power [13:54] activelow it is waste water treatment which is expensive, often, and not the fresh water supply [13:54] schestowitz-TR boilers do [13:54] DaemonFC Those cell phone solar chargers hook up to it and provide most of the power they need. [13:55] DaemonFC So at least during the day you can plug one in and it will dramatically boost your battery life. [13:56] schestowitz-TR activelow: they break it down to make it seem cheaper [13:56] schestowitz-TR to the client it does not matter [13:57] schestowitz-TR I don't get to tell them how much to "take" of the water I use [13:58] activelow thinking about it: fresh water consumption can be measured relatively easy. what people dump into wastwater and sewage system isn't easily, uhm, quantified. ● Aug 14 [14:02] DaemonFC Lenovo laptops have a battery setting that only works in Windows afaik. [14:02] DaemonFC It only has it charge up to 65% when you have it plugged in. [14:03] DaemonFC You can flip that off in Vantage and let it fully charge. [14:03] schestowitz DaemonFC: this is a photo of you https://i.imgflip.com/4vqg8r.jpg [14:03] DaemonFC If you're going to wipe Windows and install Linux, you want to turn off this feature and make sure it's off and the battery can charge to 100 first, otherwise you won't be able to fix this from Linux later. [14:04] DaemonFC Supposedly, only letting the battery charge to 65 prolongs its service life. [14:04] DaemonFC Battery replacements are not cheap. [14:04] DaemonFC So it makes sense that if you can extend the usable life of the battery another year or two.... [14:06] activelow DaemonFC: almost forgot, checked german regulation for traffic light "yellow-phase" regulations [14:07] DaemonFC There should be 2.5 seconds according to the NHTSA, and Illinois has cut it to less than 1.5 to write more tickets. [14:07] activelow 70Km/h 5s, 60Km/h 4s, 50 Km/h 3s [14:07] DaemonFC Which has caused more accidents at those lights. [14:07] DaemonFC "For safety!" [14:08] DaemonFC At the lights without them, they never fucked with the yellow light time, so you either have time to get through or stop smoothly. [14:08] DaemonFC At first, I thought it may just be me when I pointed out to John that the camera lights in Chicago had less yellow light time. [14:08] DaemonFC Then I found out that the issue came up in a lawsuit against the city. [14:09] activelow DaemonFC: with 1.5s yellow-phase maximum safe velocity (which isn't a linear function, quadratic) would be ~30Km/h maximum [14:09] DaemonFC Part of the complaint was that accidents went up by 11% because of the reduced yellow time in order to let the city write more fines. [14:09] activelow if Illinois maximum speed is more than 30Km/h in conjunction with 1.5s then it probably would violate german safety regulations for traffic lights [14:09] DaemonFC Yes, and the speed limit on those roads is often more than twice that. [14:10] DaemonFC 35-40 miles per hour with 1.5 seconds of yellow. [14:11] activelow 40mp/h is roughly 60Km/h iirc, which requires 4s yellow-phase [14:11] DaemonFC Yeah, and you get 1.5. [14:12] DaemonFC Less than half the amount of time you need to sop safely according to German regulations and a full second less than what the federal government recommends in the United States. [14:12] DaemonFC *stop [14:12] activelow yes, as a rough estimate [14:12] DaemonFC There's nothing "safe" about these cameras. [14:13] DaemonFC In fact, villages install them on US 12 or something so they mostly ticket people who aren't even living in the town. [14:13] DaemonFC So the theory goes, if few of the victims can vote there or conveniently return to contest the ticket, the problem is solved on your end. :) [14:14] activelow on the opposite, speeding and terror by idiots is equally unjust, remembering my decades of cyclist experience in cities [14:14] DaemonFC When you start putting a bunch of them in the city itself and pissing off city residents, someone may come along and offer to remove the cameras if they win the election. [14:15] activelow or the fact i couldn't at least open my windows neither day or night anymore due to speeding noise and air pollution [14:15] DaemonFC The first rule of politics is you need to learn how to be a complete scumbag while also depriving the other side of the "hero of the people" argument. [14:15] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [14:16] DaemonFC Former Mayor Cunningham didn't learn that one and now he's Former Mayor Cunningham. [14:18] DaemonFC Bill Gates got away with a lot of things forever. Paying the media to cover him favorably. [14:19] DaemonFC Wearing turtlenecks and posing for pictures with black children in Africa. Fake grin. [14:19] DaemonFC He had a "reading list" like Oprah! [14:19] DaemonFC Turtlenecks and eyeglasses. Very non-threatening. [14:19] DaemonFC Raises your perceived IQ, even. [14:19] DaemonFC Even if it's not deserved. [14:21] DaemonFC It's not what you say, it's how you say it. [14:22] DaemonFC One reason why it's so hard for people to sympathize with "black culture" is because of that "degenerate" form of English they made up for rap music and stuff. [14:22] DaemonFC When nobody outside your own race knows what you're saying, it's already hard to relate. [14:24] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/08/13/1027352362/murder-hornet-asian-giant-live-first-spotted-in-washington-state [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | 1st Live Asian Giant 'Murder Hornet' Of 2021 Spotted In Washington State : NPR [14:24] DaemonFC Democrats: Trump racialized the Coronavirus. [14:24] DaemonFC Also Democrats "ASIAN" murder hornets invade America! [14:25] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/08/14/1027683435/taliban-launch-an-assault-on-a-northern-city-after-seizing-a-province-near-the-c [14:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Taliban Launch An Assault On A Northern City After Seizing A Province Near The Capital : NPR [14:26] DaemonFC Democrats: Afghanistan will be fine! [14:26] DaemonFC Democrats 2 weeks later: "If you're an American, get out now! Burn everything in the embassy before it's overrun! The Taliban are 7 miles south of Kabul!" [14:27] DaemonFC Biden sent 3,000 US soldiers back in to cover the retreat from our embassy. [14:27] DaemonFC So much for the pictures of Afghan women getting their rights and freedoms under the puppet government. [14:27] activelow Afghanistan has another problem: most of the population fleeing doesn't have legit afghan passport [14:28] DaemonFC How would you get one when 90% of the country isn't even under government control now? [14:28] activelow two decades after Nato military presence to establish order in this country [14:29] activelow not sure afghanistan is a muslim country, their historic religion was zoroastrian; and if or how this affects, uhm, cultural identity in afghanstian [14:32] gustaf the non-Muslim minority have been under lots of pressure [14:33] gustaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuristan_Province [14:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nuristan Province - Wikipedia [14:33] MinceR 14 101050 < schestowitz-TR> it's problem NOT of voting RIGHTS [14:33] MinceR the problem is that people get to vote on who will rule _other_ people [14:33] MinceR i.e. democracy [14:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, So some 18 year old suburb kid ran over a 63 year old woman. [14:39] DaemonFC Then went home and told his parents, who are both lawyers, who got him a lawyer, and then he turned himself in. [14:39] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: see EPO: [14:39] DaemonFC You know it's America when you'll be in more trouble for stopping at the scene of an accident and calling the police on yourself than getting the hell out of there and lawyering up first. [14:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2017/02/08/immunity-and-impunity-euipo/ [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Immunity of the Intellectual Property Office of the European Union Causes Outrage in Spanish Media | Techrights [14:40] schestowitz father a lawyer [14:40] schestowitz now EPO president [14:40] schestowitz also recently allocated 6 million euros to lawyer up his own staf [14:40] schestowitz fighting them in court [14:41] DaemonFC schestowitz, The cheat code in GTA V to reduce your wanted level is LAWYERUP. [14:41] DaemonFC Or you can dial the numbers for that on your cell phone. [14:42] DaemonFC The game shuts off achievements for the rest of the session if you cheat, but if you've beaten the game already and just want to run around invincible killing the police and stuff and then clear your wanted level, it works. [14:43] DaemonFC The single player campaign isn't _that_ hard. The police encounters in the missions are all scripted events. [14:46] schestowitz-TR does GTA have "OJ" ode? [14:46] schestowitz-TR *mode [14:47] DaemonFC Well, the police start out at like 1 star by just following you and maybe ramming your car every now and then. [14:47] DaemonFC At 2 they start shooting, I think. [14:47] DaemonFC I think at 3 is when they call in a helicopater and that starts shooting at you and reporting on your position. [14:48] DaemonFC 4 is SWAT teams and the FBI start showing up all over the place and with heavier weapons. [14:48] DaemonFC 5 is the military. [14:48] DaemonFC 3 is when it starts getting pretty hard to ditch them. [14:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: wanna read a 'poem'? [14:49] DaemonFC You have to figure out how to shoot down the helicopter while the squad cars are also after you and then hide before another one comes. [14:49] schestowitz-TR it's about tech companies [14:49] schestowitz-TR still draft [14:49] DaemonFC In normal play, the game certainly doesn't reward random lawbreaking like the politicians say it does. [14:50] DaemonFC If the police arrest or kill you, you lose a bunch of your money and they confiscate all your weapons. [14:52] DaemonFC You can get into a situation where you need to buy back good weapons to progress in the game and you don't have enough money to do that with, so you have to grab whatever you can again. [14:52] DaemonFC The game normally doesn't dump you into a serious firefight with nothing. [14:52] DaemonFC Otherwise it would be impossible to win. It just gets much harder. [14:53] DaemonFC DaemonFC: wanna read a 'poem'? [14:53] DaemonFC Sure [14:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Market Racism | Techrights [14:53] schestowitz might make more sense if you did "tech" job like phony shills we both know [14:57] DaemonFC "Come back to the office with lowered pay [14:57] DaemonFC Theres nothing you can even say" [14:57] DaemonFC Come back with the vaccine papers or don't bother coming back at all. [14:58] schestowitz-TR yes [14:58] schestowitz-TR I was gonna say... [14:58] schestowitz-TR but it would make me sound like I oppose vaccination [14:58] DaemonFC Mom says if they do start demanding it, she'll resign. [14:58] schestowitz-TR they offer incentives now [14:59] DaemonFC I said it was unlikely they'd just demand it right away. They'd probably give everyone two or three months, so just work for that long and then resign. [14:59] schestowitz-TR get [some prize/money/advantage] for proof of jab [14:59] schestowitz-TR some companies say, you can stay at home if no jab [14:59] DaemonFC Three months is three more months her Social Security check grows when she claims it. [14:59] schestowitz-TR but it backfires [14:59] schestowitz-TR as it basically rewards people who do not get vaccinated [14:59] schestowitz-TR they get a better working condition ● Aug 14 [15:00] schestowitz-TR I heard CNN fired people over it [15:00] schestowitz-TR but... CNN and BillBC [15:00] schestowitz-TR so maybe there was a lot more to that story than they claim [15:00] schestowitz-TR the "no jab, no job" papers [15:00] psydruid I called Microsoft Azure a "low-quality cloud" and then cult members called me out for being wrong and that they had never experienced any outages etc. [15:00] schestowitz-TR they also said you would not be able to fly without it [15:00] schestowitz-TR hat scared many people [15:01] schestowitz-TR turns out it was false, as a negative test with proof should suffice to [15:01] psydruid I wonder if they are creating their own realities where everything Microsoft does is perfect [15:01] schestowitz-TR plus quarantine [15:01] schestowitz-TR psydruid: LOTS of reports of azure downtime [15:01] schestowitz-TR office 360 is coined by us [15:01] schestowitz-TR ages ago [15:01] psydruid yes [15:01] schestowitz-TR some copied it [15:02] schestowitz-TR and for the same reasons [15:02] DaemonFC Also, every time there's a massive data breach in Azure, it was "The customer configured it wrong!". [15:02] psydruid I think this kind of PR is borderline misleading people who wouldn't bother if they knew the reality of Azure [15:02] schestowitz-TR psydruid: maybe that person is mirosoft isv/reseller [15:02] schestowitz-TR they fight for their paycheck [15:02] psydruid schestowitz-TR, yes, ganging up on me for telling the truth [15:02] psydruid multiple people [15:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights [15:03] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: Canonical did not even fire back [15:03] schestowitz-TR it lost is tongue [15:03] schestowitz-TR with Microsoft's pecker in MS's mouth [15:03] schestowitz-TR Mark Shuttlecock [15:03] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/family-leaves-frontier-airlines-flight-after-employee-tells-2-year-old-to-mask-up/ [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Family leaves Frontier Airlines flight after employee tells 2-year-old to mask up | WGN-TV [15:03] DaemonFC This "pandemic" has turned peons who normally have little authority into bullies and thugs. [15:04] schestowitz-TR that too [15:04] schestowitz-TR but some lost their job [15:04] DaemonFC Like the Lake County Health Department going around and fining restaurants that opened without permission for being a "nuisance". [15:04] schestowitz-TR no office => fewer bosses required [15:04] schestowitz-TR I feel bad for eateries [15:04] schestowitz-TR I would not go there now [15:04] schestowitz-TR far too many cases [15:05] schestowitz-TR with east out help out in august 2020 we had about 500 cases a day [15:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I sent them a letter. The Health Department. [15:05] schestowitz-TR in the whole of uk [15:05] schestowitz-TR wales, eng, ni, and scot [15:05] schestowitz-TR now it's like 35k a day [15:05] schestowitz-TR 70 times more [15:05] DaemonFC I said "You want to know who's a nuisance to the public? You're a fucking public nuisance. Fine yourselves.". [15:05] schestowitz-TR out of the question to even go to a shopping centre or food stores with many people in it [15:05] schestowitz-TR covid can be airorne [15:05] schestowitz-TR aerosols [15:06] DaemonFC The one thing they can't do is escape the hate mail. [15:06] DaemonFC You can't get rid of them but you can make them cringe at the thought of opening their letters. [15:06] schestowitz-TR masks have very limited use when people breathe out all around you, not even sneezing or emitting droplets [15:07] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the worry to them is, if they do not enforce, more will follow [15:07] schestowitz-TR so they need to put their boot down [15:07] schestowitz-TR to deter others [15:07] schestowitz-TR or else cases will surge [15:07] schestowitz-TR you cannot dine out with a mask on [15:07] schestowitz-TR unless you make holes in the mask or have a straw somewhere [15:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 35.91 swarm size (avg): 272.90 [15:07] schestowitz-TR also, the food needs hands to handle [15:08] DaemonFC We went out to one of the restaurants that was open anyway. [15:08] DaemonFC There's nothing on the books that lets them fine the customers. [15:08] schestowitz-TR you cannot just magically put food in a machine and fly it into a plate on the table [15:08] psydruid schestowitz-TR, [15:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: Ivanka: START SOMETHING NEW [15:08] schestowitz-TR Ivanka was no cook or chef [15:08] schestowitz-TR she probbaly never cooked in her life [15:09] schestowitz-TR toast with butter does not count as cooking [15:09] schestowitz-TR tell the restaurant owner to stay programming :-_) [15:09] schestowitz-TR START SOMETHING NEW [15:09] techrights-news Free Market #Racism http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Market Racism | Techrights [15:10] techrights-news Free Market #Racism http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ [15:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:11] schestowitz psydruid: empty message? [15:11] schestowitz or some invisible emoji? [15:11] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [15:11] psydruid oops [15:11] psydruid I accidentally pressed enter [15:12] DaemonFC "For people living in Afghanistan, particularly women, LGBTQ folks, and non-Muslims, "anarchy and warlords" is probably better than the Taliban, but not by much." [15:12] DaemonFC Homosexuality is illegal in Afghanistan in areas controlled by the supposed government. [15:12] DaemonFC But it's been very difficult to enforce because it actually goes on all the time. [15:12] DaemonFC The Taliban actually do cut people's heads off if they find out about this. [15:13] schestowitz taliuban: give me head [15:14] DaemonFC In fact, old man on teenager is quite common there too. [15:14] DaemonFC There's the law and there's what happens. Same as anywhere else, really. [15:15] techrights-news #rossmanngroup guest https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/an-honest-conversation-with-willie-cade:0 [15:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | An honest conversation with Willie Cade; grandson of John Deere engineer & patentholder [15:15] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi [15:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bacha bazi - Wikipedia [15:15] DaemonFC The Taliban will shoot people for this. [15:15] psydruid In Pakistan people also go to Quetta in Balochistan to do these same things [15:16] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: US troops partiipated in it [15:16] DaemonFC Doesn't surprise me, but....source? [15:16] schestowitz-TR according to wikileaks-published diplomatic cables, iirc [15:17] schestowitz-TR you can look that up [15:17] schestowitz-TR I don't want to [15:17] schestowitz-TR the search phrases are unsavoury [15:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:17] DaemonFC "The Taliban considered it incompatible with Sharia law.[20] Both bacha bazi and homosexuality carried the death penalty,[13] with the boys sometimes being charged rather than the perpetrators.[20]" [15:17] DaemonFC How can you blame a child for this? For being victimized by some old pervert? [15:18] MinceR just human things [15:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:18] MinceR also, religion [15:20] DaemonFC New Intel Bluetooth driver. "Windows 11" support. [15:21] MinceR setup dialog has rounded corners? [15:22] phobos/jn Yeah... they are using a kde 4.3 theme [15:22] phobos/jn big deal... well... I guess it is to windows users who are used to such nice things [15:23] phobos/jn aren't* [15:24] phobos/jn http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_A3bDTdsdVYQ/TBf5JiXsW-I/AAAAAAAAAE4/B85ngWhfh80/s1600/oxygen-demo.png [15:28] techrights-news #hungary #censorship https://www.voanews.com/europe/hungarian-booksellers-fear-self-censorship-decree-curbs-sale-lgbtq-themed-books [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Hungarian Booksellers Fear Self-censorship as Decree Curbs Sale of LGBTQ-Themed Books | Voice of America - English [15:28] schestowitz-TR phobos they always copy KDE [15:29] techrights-news Faking and pandering to women https://www.cracked.com/article_30974_11-ways-the-tech-industry-pretends-to-support-women.html not even paying them properly http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-11 Ways The Tech Industry Pretends To Support Women | Cracked.com [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Market Racism | Techrights [15:30] phobos/jn Current users on the network: 1302 Max: 1316 [15:30] techrights-news Deep and profound #corruption at the EPO remains untackled; one might even say that the #EPO has basically become like a hub of political corruption http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/epo-breeds-corrupt-politics/ #Techrights #Europe #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/epo-breeds-corrupt-politics/ [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO, Europes Second-Largest Organisation, as a Hub of Corrupt Politics | Techrights [15:30] phobos/jn Before long, Andrew will be back at a 100k, right? [15:31] phobos/jn ;) [15:31] schestowitz-TR he gave up [15:31] MinceR no, he'll be back at "millions"! [15:31] schestowitz-TR everything he touches breaks [15:31] schestowitz-TR even PIA [15:31] phobos/jn What were his other ventures? [15:31] schestowitz-TR the lenders will foreclose [15:32] schestowitz-TR phobos: some fraudulent and failing mt gox 'live' [15:32] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmafy_v8g8 [15:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Carl Sagan - Millions, Billions and Trillions. All the illions from Cosmos and in order. - YouTube [15:32] phobos/jn I'd look it up but I can't remember his last name [15:32] schestowitz-TR and with all those digital 'coins' losing value it cannot be good [15:32] phobos/jn he is that important to me [15:32] schestowitz-TR MinceR: I know that [15:32] schestowitz-TR I have it downloaded [15:32] MinceR :) [15:32] XRevan86 The psychological milestone of 1300 citizens has been crossed today? [15:33] phobos/jn looks like it [15:33] schestowitz-TR maybe faked [15:33] schestowitz-TR at this scale it is very cheap to fake [15:33] phobos/jn that number is what /lusers gave me a minute ago [15:33] schestowitz-TR 1300 lusers ;-) [15:34] schestowitz-TR luseds [15:34] schestowitz-TR used [15:34] schestowitz-TR and lusing [15:34] schestowitz-TR and lee [15:34] schestowitz-TR or l0de [15:34] schestowitz-TR social outcasts [15:35] techrights-news The large corporations and corporate media conveniently ignore the most large-scale #racism out there, instead moaning about their victims being intolerant and fussy http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/racism-projection/ [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Market Racism | Techrights [15:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: Come on, we all know that the first 1300 are the hardest. [15:37] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [15:37] phobos/jn https://www.campus.sg/meet-the-young-korean-crown-prince-technopreneur-andrew-lee-campus-sg/ [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet the Young Korean Crown Prince, Technopreneur Andrew Lee | campus.sg | Campus Magazine [15:37] phobos/jn That tries to paint him in a good light and explain why he became crown prince [15:37] schestowitz-TR maybe paid-for article [15:37] schestowitz-TR his brother loves buying puff pieces [15:37] phobos/jn I'm wondering [15:38] schestowitz-TR for shells gane [15:38] schestowitz-TR *game [15:38] schestowitz-TR since years ago [15:38] phobos/jn still interesting though... covers a little of the dynasty history [15:38] schestowitz-TR the modus is buying puff pieces and ads [15:38] schestowitz-TR and placements [15:38] schestowitz-TR I never heard of campus.sh [15:38] schestowitz-TR *sg [15:39] schestowitz-TR it is not a high-profile site [15:39] schestowitz-TR for all we know, it might be a paid ad [15:39] schestowitz-TR Shiva the fraud did the same [15:39] schestowitz-TR to pretend he invented email [15:40] schestowitz-TR later they link to those planted 'articles' as 'evidence' [15:41] phobos/jn "In 2018, Yi Seok declared Andrew Lee, a distant relative, to be the Korean Crown Prince, although Andrews connection to the Jeonju clan have not been documented." [15:41] XRevan86 phobos: Still doesn't explain why Andrew Lee was the chosen one. [15:42] phobos/jn Drugs. [15:42] XRevan86 phobos: I don't mean to himself, I mean to Yi Seok. [15:42] phobos/jn They were high when they picked Andrew's name out of the hat [15:43] XRevan86 Why was his name in the hat? :) [15:43] phobos/jn because they had no idea what the hell they were doing being that high [15:43] phobos/jn good an explanation as any ;) [15:44] activelow almost missed it: https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [15:45] XRevan86 This link's been everywhere. [15:47] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [15:48] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.179.58) has joined #techrights [15:52] DaemonFC Record numbers of guns being sold. [15:52] DaemonFC Coincidence: Record numbers of stories about loaded guns found by kids who shot one of their parents with it. [15:53] gustaf literally makes no sense [15:55] DaemonFC I'm going to get a biometric gun safe if I do buy a gun. [15:56] DaemonFC 1. It makes it impossible for anyone to argue that someone else has "reasonable access" to my guns due to some reckless indifference on my part. [15:56] DaemonFC 2. It drastically decreases the chance someone picks up my own gun and shoots me with it. [15:57] DaemonFC I think there might be more danger of having a gun in the house than not, honestly. [15:57] DaemonFC Many people don't have the presence of mind to consider that and then end up being shot by their own gun. [15:58] DaemonFC Either because their kids find it or because they have an argument with their spouse and the spouse picks it up and shoots them. [15:58] DaemonFC I mean, after you're dead they can say whatever they want to the police. [15:59] DaemonFC Beat themselves up, say they had to shoot you because you were beating on them. [15:59] DaemonFC They can do whatever. [15:59] DaemonFC It's just dangerous to have a gun in the house when there's other people there. ● Aug 14 [16:00] DaemonFC Especially kids or a spouse with an unstable personality. [16:00] DaemonFC I'm sure that if Mark ever thought about buying a gun for home defense the thought of Maricel blowing her top and shooting him instead of throwing dishes crossed his mind. [16:00] phobos/jn I recommend a dp-12 [16:01] phobos/jn https://stdgun.com/dp-12/ [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stdgun.com | Shotguns - DP-12 - Page 1 - Standard Mfg. Co. LLC [16:01] techrights-news "I see that Poettering has hit the news again with another "I want to make your system mine and not yours" pile of crap." https://icosahedron.website/@Truck/106748946554584334 [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-icosahedron.website | Sir Garbagetruck: "Systemd's latest foray into making computers some" - Icosahedron [16:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:02] phobos/jn I'm glad I don't have any of his crap installed [16:03] DaemonFC MinceR, Garibaldi: "Sure, I'll just go up there and ask him to leave, and then assuming he doesn't frag me just for kicks, I'll tell you how that went." -B5 [16:04] DaemonFC I like how B5 starts off with such misdirection. [16:04] DaemonFC Especially by leading the viewer to see the Vorlons as benevolent jsut because Kosh is good. [16:05] techrights-news "Was chuffed to find this obscure video in which the people involved in banning software patents in NZ were thanked by the main champion for this law change, former MP Claire Curran" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106741640931252599 #swpats #nz http://techrights.org/2016/06/06/shelston-ip-and-aj-park/ [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "Was chuffed to find this obscure video in which t" - Mastodon - NZOSS [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Shelston IP and AJ Park Help Foreign Corporations Occupy Australia and New Zealand With Software Patents | Techrights [16:05] techrights-news "SA Gov prohibits free open source ERP solutions for tender in contravention of own policy to promote open source and small business" https://mastodon.social/@danie10/106742715836172586 #freesw [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Danie van der Merwe : "SA Gov prohibits free open source ERP solutions f" - Mastodon [16:14] techrights-news "Things I will be doing if #Apple goes ahead with its plans to violate the sanctity of your devices" https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106747585916038891 [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Things I will be doing if Apple goes ahead with i" - Arals Mastodon [16:15] techrights-news "It's time to decentralize the internet, again: What was distributed is now centralized by Google, Facebook, etc" https://mastodon.social/@danie10/106742277872086312 move to #geminiProtocol and #geminiSpace -- they're a GREAT start! [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Danie van der Merwe : "It's time to decentralize the internet, again: Wh" - Mastodon [16:21] DaemonFC https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0517681/goofs [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Babylon 5" Racing Mars (TV Episode 1997) - Goofs - IMDb [16:22] DaemonFC "Captain Jack's accent switches back and forth from heavily Australian, to slightly British, to very American with almost every other sentence." [16:22] DaemonFC That might not be a production goof. [16:23] techrights-news Call for testing: #OpenSSH 8.7 https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2021-August/039508.html #ssh #openbsd #bsd | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/14/#latest [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.mindrot.org | Call for testing: OpenSSH 8.7 [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:23] DaemonFC The character had a Drakh keeper parasite attached to him, controlling his actions, but later one of the other characters said that he kept doing things to try to warn them something wasn't right. [16:23] techrights-news "The Bill & Melinda Gates foundation, in cooperation with the Rockefeller foundation, have pushed countless African farmers into monoculture, chemical agents, proprietary seeds, and other high-input/output methods, resulting in 30% *more* food insecurity" https://kosmos.social/@raucao/106748160946834697 [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ru Cao : "The Bill & Melinda Gates foundation, in cooperati" - kosmos.social [16:23] DaemonFC Like wearing a heavy coat even though it was warm. [16:24] DaemonFC Switching between very different accents a lot could be something that the Keeper wouldn't notice, but he would hope the others would quickly pick up on. [16:25] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:26] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.137) has joined #techrights [16:26] psydruid Poettering is the most prominent GAFAM mole, praise be upon him [16:26] *CrystalMath (~coderain@545c5sgzzu4s6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] schestowitz-TR GIAGAM? [16:29] schestowitz-TR *FAM [16:29] schestowitz-TR or GIIAFAM is we count Intel too (still) [16:30] DaemonFC I'm not really happy about how this episode treats gay marriage. [16:30] schestowitz-TR GOIAIFAM for Oracle [16:30] psydruid we count them all [16:30] DaemonFC On one hand, it admitted that in the future it would eventually be legal. Jack arranges for forged travel documents and identicards for Dr. Franklin and Marcus, as a married couple. [16:31] DaemonFC But then they immediately start joking about it back and forth, mockingly, the rest of the trip. [16:32] DaemonFC Nothng truly vicious, but TV was mostly past this by the late 90s, so it stood out even then. [16:33] DaemonFC Also interesting. President Clark's regime on Earth is right-wing, authoritarian, and fascist, but gay marriage is apparently not a problem. [16:34] DaemonFC Even though the political right lost the issue, they keep picking. If other social issues are any indicator, this may very well not be over for them, even 50 years from now. [16:35] DaemonFC Their politicians don't make it a huge issue anymore because half the party no longer cares and the other half is still violently opposed to gay rights. [16:35] DaemonFC It's not clear that picking a side gains them anything with their base, but it may alienate swing voters. [16:37] DaemonFC Put another way, about a quarter of the US population is not past this issue and won't accept defeat. It's not actually clear what would happen under right-wing fascism at this point. So maybe "Clark's" government really doesn't care. [16:38] DaemonFC JMS is Russian, and a lot of this show is from his point of view. [16:39] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:39] CrystalMath DaemonFC: hmm, well they predicted right [16:39] DaemonFC I guess at the time, that would be a Russia just coming out of Communism, with a bungled shock therapy program under Yeltsin that nearly destroyed everything, and set the stage for Putin. [16:39] CrystalMath they predicted that the right would be okay with gay marriage [16:39] XRevan86 https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10308021/officers oh, some interesting dates here [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREENODE LIMITED - Officers (free information from Companies House) [16:40] DaemonFC Most economies that are coming out of Communism move too far, too fast. [16:41] XRevan86 1. Andrew Lee was appointed a year after incorporation; 2. Christel resigned March 16th; 3. but the termination happened April 26th. [16:42] techrights-news The #EPO 's Extraordinary #Gerrymandering Landscape and Belated Introduction to Goran #Gerasinmovski http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/gerrymandering-epo/ #europe #patents [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Extraordinary Gerrymandering Landscape and Belated Introduction to Goran Gerasinmovski | Techrights [16:42] DaemonFC Many remaining economies calling themselves Communism are actually nothing of the sort. It's an autocratic single-party regime that represses its citizens and perverts the economy with state intervention, sure, which comes close. [16:42] DaemonFC But in practice, China is operating a lot like America did before the labor movement and during the Roaring Twenties. [16:44] DaemonFC There wasn't much government-backed speculation going on at the time in the US, but workers were exploited quite badly and the Fed was letting loose plenty of capital that was being invested unwisely. [16:44] DaemonFC And in some ways, 100 years later, we're back to that. [16:44] DaemonFC DoorDash paying some black guy $2 to drive his own car 10 miles to take you your McDonalds. [16:45] DaemonFC The Fed setting the Funds Rate at 0.00. [16:45] DaemonFC Apps, "AI".... [16:45] DaemonFC Uber. [16:45] DaemonFC Speculators are good at gambling with other people's money into things that are so new that there are no regulations yet. [16:46] DaemonFC Then it all falls apart and they do something a little different next time. [16:46] DaemonFC It's becoming increasingly clear that Uber isn't viable. [16:47] DaemonFC It's more expensive than a cab now, and why risk getting Jack the Ripper for your Uber driver at twice the cost of a cab after waiting there for an hour? [16:49] techrights-news [Meme] #Patents on Magic http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/swpats-on-magic/ #swpat #swpats #epo #patent [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Patents on Magic | Techrights [16:58] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154491 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines ● Aug 14 [17:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:00] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:01] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [17:01] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:03] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:22] XFaCE schestowitz: MinceR: I did a Roy-esque thing recently. [17:37] DaemonFC I need to alter this recipe. I hate cilantro. [17:37] DaemonFC It tastes like Irish Spring bath soap. [17:42] *Now talking on #techrights [17:42] *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [17:42] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 [17:43] *Now talking on #techrights [17:43] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org [17:43] *Topic for #techrights set by superkuh!~superkuh@user/superkuh at Thu May 20 20:25:47 2021 [17:50] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [18:17] DaemonFC Mandy finally leaned on his HR person and got her to quit saying download an app. [18:17] DaemonFC They put down his gender wrong. [18:19] DaemonFC I said "Just stay in there and don't leave until they fix it. They caused the problem, they can fix it. If Doctor Frank-N-Furter from The Rocky Horror Picture Show can make you a man, so can the lady in HR. [18:19] techrights-news First reboot today in half a year. [18:19] DaemonFC I was on speaker and I heard other people in the room laughing. [18:22] DaemonFC Ariadne, Yeah, these car insurance companies are all a bunch of bums. [18:22] DaemonFC Trust me. Not my first barbecue. [18:22] DaemonFC Just because I have some money doesn't mean I want to give it all to them. That's why I have some money. [18:23] DaemonFC It's all about trying to hang onto some here and some there while people try to deceive you. [18:23] DaemonFC And all of these lawsuits flying around about deception are just the cost of doing business for these folks. [18:23] DaemonFC Make an omelet, break some eggs. [18:24] DaemonFC As long as they make a million times more money than they lose to the lawsuits, they're fine with being sued. [18:25] DaemonFC Apple pretty openly violated the patents that caused this latest round, and it violated them openly because it can pay the troll to go away. [18:25] DaemonFC First off, it's not clear that they would be sued, but now that they are sued, they can settle this and get a license. [18:26] DaemonFC 10 patents all told, apparently. [18:29] techrights-news #NanoPi R2C is a cheaper dual GbE mini router with YT8521S Gigabit Ethernet PHY http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NanoPi R2C is a cheaper dual GbE mini router with YT8521S Gigabit Ethernet PHY | Tux Machines [18:29] techrights-news Best Free #Android Apps: Voice Audiobook Player minimalistic audiobook player http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154493 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free Android Apps: Voice Audiobook Player minimalistic audiobook player | Tux Machines [18:32] techrights-news #KDE Frameworks 5.85 Improves the Breeze Icon Theme for Xfce Users, Performance Improvements - 9to5Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154490 [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.85 Improves the Breeze Icon Theme for Xfce Users, Performance Improvements | Tux Machines [18:33] techrights-news The #EPC and labour regulations, or the fundamental rules of the #EPO , have long been ignored if not aggressively trampled upon; its getting more important to understand who is allowing this and why http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/gerrymandering-epo/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/gerrymandering-epo/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Extraordinary Gerrymandering Landscape and Belated Introduction to Goran Gerasinmovski | Techrights [18:34] techrights-news Gross misuse of buzzwords and hype continues to facilitate a rogue and unlawful agenda, such as the #EPO granting European #softwarepatents that courts are rejecting http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/swpats-on-magic/ #Techrights #swpats #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/swpats-on-magic/ [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Patents on Magic | Techrights [18:36] techrights-news Gross misuse of buzzwords and hype continues to facilitate a rogue and unlawful agenda, such as the #EPO granting European #softwarepatents that courts are rejecting http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/swpats-on-magic/ #Techrights #swpats #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/swpats-on-magic/ [18:36] techrights-news #Debian 11 Is Releasing This Weekend With Many Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154494 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11 Is Releasing This Weekend With Many Improvements | Tux Machines [18:37] techrights-news #elementaryOS 6 Odin Is Beautiful, Yet Could Be Better http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154495 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementaryOS 6 Odin Is Beautiful, Yet Could Be Better | Tux Machines [18:48] techrights-news Lets Install #ArchLinux By The Books - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cllbNhktoM0 #video #invidious [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | LinuxLet's Install Arch Linux By The Books - Invidious [18:49] DaemonFC schestowitz, What would be ironic is mjg59_ helping all these companies trap people on Windows and Mac OS and proprietary phone systems. [18:49] *inky (~inky@188.115.255.160) has joined #techrights [18:49] DaemonFC Then being caught by all of these new "file scanners" himself doing something he's not supposed to be doing. [18:50] DaemonFC I think you alluded to him being a freak. He said he loves Windows. Let's hope he doesn't have anything naughty for Defender to report on. [18:50] DaemonFC Because now that Apple's doing it, Microsoft either will be or already does. [18:51] DaemonFC schestowitz, Speaking of "defender", that's what they call a really incompetent lawyer that gets assigned to indigents by the court so it can run a conviction rocket docket. [18:52] DaemonFC To make things doubleplusbad for you, they give the prosecution unlimited resources to convict and then make the Public Defender's office deal with 90% of the defendants with a third as much money. [18:52] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [18:53] DaemonFC It's like Medicaid only with criminal defense lawyers. Nobody decent will take your case for what it pays, unless they view it as "charitable", or they're filling in some gaps in their private case load, or they're fresh out of law school. [18:54] DaemonFC So in some cases, they may mean well, but they'd still be under-equipped. [18:54] DaemonFC In the same sense, Microsoft said their goal with Windows Defender was to provide a "basic level" of antivirus protection. [18:55] DaemonFC They never said it would be any good. They said it would be a "minimum level" of protection from viruses. From what I understand, it usually detects things, but obviously not always. And nobody could. Even in the best of the circumstances, you're not on an even playing field with the bad guys. [18:56] techrights-news Best Linux Distributions that Look Like macOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154496 #GNU #Linux #TuxMa [18:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Distributions that Look Like macOS | Tux Machines [18:56] DaemonFC They have the advantage of striking any time they like, with something you've never seen before, and only after "testing" it with all of the major players in the antivirus industry. [18:56] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://chines.org/node/154497 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chines.org [18:56] DaemonFC Especially Defender because it's guaranteed to be there. [18:57] XFaCE schestowitz: MinceR: Was tried of the habit of using a phone as a clock, since it was both inconvenient and overkill (and of course the other factors of a smartphone), so I now have a watch that has a timesync that uses simple radio signals [18:57] DaemonFC I use virustotal a lot before I run things. [18:57] DaemonFC You stand a much better chance of avoiding malware if you ask 40+ engines for an opinion rather than relying on just one. [18:58] DaemonFC The antivirus industry actually cooperates a lot, but you still have engines that detect new malware sooner than the rest. [18:58] techrights-news #Debian Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154494#comment-30544 [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 11 Is Releasing This Weekend With Many Improvements | Tux Machines [18:59] DaemonFC Maybe I'll try Debian 11. [18:59] DaemonFC They do weird shit though, like with the firmware and not emphasizing live installers. [18:59] DaemonFC That's pretty dated, and with the firmware it's a very WTF situation because either your computer works or it doesn't [18:59] DaemonFC If it's going to be a brick without the firmware, why would you run an OS with no firmware. ● Aug 14 [19:02] DaemonFC I say this without the obvious groaning associated with the term thanks to the Democrats, but Fedora has been "mostly peaceful" lately on my older laptop. [19:03] DaemonFC https://heyjackass.com/ [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chicago Crime, Murder & Mayhem | Criminal Infographics | HeyJackass! | Illustrating Chicago Values [19:03] DaemonFC Chicago is amazingly even more violent this year than last year. [19:04] DaemonFC There's already been 24 murders more than same time last year. [19:04] DaemonFC What doesn't change is that the victim and the offender are young black men roughly 90% of the time. [19:13] DaemonFC No activity at all on Musepack. I always thought that on technical merit, it should have easily beaten out Ogg Vorbis. [19:13] DaemonFC Lower CPU and drastically lower memory requirements, and better results. It would have made an obvious choice for 2000s era hardware players that just couldn't handle Vorbis. [19:14] DaemonFC I guess as long as ffmpeg is around, it lives. [19:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:17] techrights-news KDE Sees More Improvements To Plasma, Konsole, Breeze This Week - Phoronix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154488#comment-30545 [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: bugfixes and UI improvements galore | Tux Machines [19:19] phobos/jn definite change from the days when one of their main people flat out said they didn't need users [19:19] phobos/jn s/their/KDE's main developers [19:19] phobos/jn s/their main people/KDE's main developers [19:19] phobos/jn damn autocorrect [19:20] phobos/jn ;) [19:20] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.137) has joined #techrights [19:22] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:26] techrights-news #KDE Frameworks 5.85.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154490#comment-30546 [19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.85 Improves the Breeze Icon Theme for Xfce Users, Performance Improvements | Tux Machines [19:28] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154498 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:29] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@u629ghbttrwzu.irc) has joined #techrights [19:30] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/us-brokers-warned-of-ongoing-phishing-attacks-impersonating-finra/ [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | US brokers warned of ongoing phishing attacks impersonating FINRA [19:31] AdmFubar here is progress... they will tell you spam is coming but not actually stop it.. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-teams-will-alert-users-of-incoming-spam-calls/ [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft Teams will alert users of incoming spam calls [19:31] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@2tmjqat7v55jn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:32] DaemonFC English is a funny language. [19:32] DaemonFC I don't know of another one where you invest your money with someone called a "broker". [19:32] DaemonFC :) [19:32] DaemonFC bbl [19:32] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsofts-azure-sdk-site-tricked-into-listing-fake-package/ [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft's Azure SDK site tricked into listing fake package [19:34] AdmFubar https://www.accessnow.org/apple-encryption-expanded-protections-children/ [19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Access Now urges Apple to restore trust by rolling back plans to circumvent end-to-end encryption on its devices - Access Now [19:35] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] techrights-news Links 14/8/2021: Wine 6.15 and Ardour 6.9 Released http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/ardour-6-9-released/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/ardour-6-9-released/ [19:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/8/2021: Wine 6.15 and Ardour 6.9 Released | Techrights [19:46] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154499 #TuxMachines [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:46] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: Arch Linux, GNU/Linux Freedom, and LHS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Arch Linux, GNU/Linux Freedom, and LHS | Tux Machines [19:47] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154501 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:53] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:56] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #techrights [19:56] *openJ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [19:57] *Ariadne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:59] *Ariadne (~sid506515@zmgg7ft3mzjri.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [20:00] *openJ (sid276354@id-276354.charlton.irccloud.com) has joined #techrights [20:00] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/samsung-leader-jay-y-lee-released-from-prison-on-parole/ [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsungs leader is out of jail, allowing US factory plans to move forward | Ars Technica [20:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 33.35 swarm size (avg): 272.87 [20:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 33.35 swarm size (avg): 272.87 [20:02] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/school-mask-battles-rage-on-as-more-children-fall-ill-fill-hospitals/ [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | School mask battles rage on as more children fall ill, fill hospitals | Ars Technica [20:08] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/googles-new-nest-display-wants-to-watch-you-while-you-sleep/ [20:08] AdmFubar the comments are great [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Googles new Nest display wants to watch you while you sleep | Ars Technica [20:36] AdmFubar homebrew ic's https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7E8-0Ou69hwScPW1_fQApA [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sam Zeloof - YouTube [20:42] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:44] *sepsinn has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:44] *phobos (~phobos@2tmjqat7v55jn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:45] phobos Is there an ssl enabled port on this server? [20:45] phobos like 7070 for most networks [20:47] gustaf 6697 is SSL [20:54] phobos thanks [20:54] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:56] *phobos (~phobos@2tmjqat7v55jn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 14 [21:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 23.58 swarm size (avg): 272.85 [21:30] *blitzed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:35] AdmFubar https://citizenlab.ca/2021/04/bill-c-11-explained/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Bill C-11 Explained - The Citizen Lab [21:35] AdmFubar https://citizenlab.ca/2021/04/canadas-proposed-privacy-law-reforms-are-not-enough-improving-organizational-transparency-and-accountability-bill-c11/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | Canadas Proposed Privacy Law Reforms Are Not Enough: A Path to Improving Organizational Transparency and Accountability - The Citizen Lab [21:44] activelow does canadian constitution protect "secrecy of telecommunications"? [21:44] activelow "Bill C-11 would not adequately address issues of meaningful consent, de-identification, or data mobility" [21:45] activelow this is a typical argument of data scrapers, any consent could terminate constitutional rights, which is wrong. [21:46] activelow if any such entity spies then this violates secrecy of telecommunications, which is a severe infringement at constitutional level. [21:46] AdmFubar that is the point of the article [21:51] MinceR XFaCE: unfortunately, my wrists won't tolerate a watch [21:53] MinceR lol @ Doctor Frank-N-Furter [21:54] MinceR 14 195905 < DaemonFC> Maybe I'll try Debian 11. [21:54] MinceR what a difference from windows 11. [21:59] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/iot/fragattacks-foil-2-decades-of-wireless-security/d/d-id/1341595 [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | FragAttacks Foil 2 Decades of Wireless Security ● Aug 14 [22:02] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/brooklyn-tech-students-uncovered-a-nyc-schools-data-breach/ [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Brooklyn Tech students uncovered a NYC schools data breach. [22:52] *psydroid__ has quit (connection closed) ● Aug 14 [23:00] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/14/sweary_four_word_map/ [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Tired: What3Words. Wired: A clone location-tracking service based on FOUR words and they are all extremely rude The Register [23:00] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@r5aj2wcsu64uc.irc) has joined #techrights [23:05] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/amd_secure_encrypted_virtualization/ [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Re-volting: AMD Secure Encrypted Virtualization undone by electrical attack The Register [23:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.10 swarm size (avg): 272.81 [23:20] kingoffrance re: spying well it depends how things are defined in laws https://abcnews.go.com/US/americas-top-spy-james-clapper-made-mistake-lie/story?id=37003608 [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | America's Top Spy James Clapper: 'I Made a Mistake But I Did Not Lie' - ABC News [23:20] kingoffrance spying they might define as content, not metadata, etc. [23:20] kingoffrance so when asked are you "spying?" they say "no" because its just metadata [23:20] kingoffrance which can then be handed off to spies lol [23:21] kingoffrance so we dont spy...we just feed other spies lol [23:21] kingoffrance that is u.s., but is 5 eyes/anywhere else any different? [23:21] kingoffrance and, this perhaps some ppl say is even why 5 eyes etc. [23:22] kingoffrance we cant spy on you, our partners in other countries can though [23:22] activelow german constitution translates "secrecy of telecommunications", which includes "metadata" are protected as telecommucations too [23:22] kingoffrance and share it with us etc. [23:22] kingoffrance ok, that is good then [23:23] activelow it is true, typically specific laws are defined which are derived from higher order constitution, and must be complient with the constitution itself [23:23] kingoffrance so theres no domestic spying that way. its just our foreign partners who shre with us [23:23] activelow if at all, the constitution permits then, with regards to both content and metadata, *lawful* interception only [23:24] kingoffrance and same thing with businesses/corporations...no no no we dont spy. we talk to our partners in the business world [23:24] activelow and *lawful* interception depends on heavy criminal intent of the one spied upon [23:24] activelow in any case, data scraping and mass surveillance are violating the constitution, the german one at least [23:25] kingoffrance i mean, gov can always say we never spy. we merely talk to our business partners [23:25] kingoffrance that people voluntarily do business with etc. [23:25] kingoffrance and they give us data lol [23:26] kingoffrance no spying lol [23:26] activelow sure, telecommunicatons distinct "source surveillance", and "transmission surveillance", among other technical details [23:27] activelow in case some violate the constitution in germany, whoever it was, and if no alternative action is possible, the german constitution permits force against those who violate the constitution [23:28] activelow "resistence" [23:29] activelow although, in the current state, this translates to martial law [23:31] activelow since "constitutional state" (Rechtsstaat) is abandoned [23:33] phobos Its supposed to be illegal in the USA. At least it was. Intelligence agencies, by their founding charter, were prohibited from spying on US citizens unless they had a warrant authorizing such activities. The burden of proof was heavy. [23:34] phobos Then the so called patriot act was passed which suddenly allowed spying on both legal residents and citizens alike under certain circumstances and a much reduced burden of proof for warrants [23:35] phobos Now, to by pass a lot of the laws, they have the post office running a black office doing the spying for some of these agencies to get around the charter and other laws [23:36] activelow spying on foreign citizens most often is related to "industrial espionage" as an act of "economic warfare", which too is outside the realm of "civil law" already, and implies martial law if no alternative remains [23:37] phobos The USA has been in a form of martial law since 9/11. Its just not declared. Some cities and towns have mandatory curfews, police are authorized to run check points, blah blah blah [23:37] phobos Its not been 'The Land of The Free' for some decades now [23:37] DaemonFC https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-removing-cannon-lake-driver-linux?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=tomsguide&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Intel Ironically Removes Cannon Lake Graphics Driver That Wasn't Needed Anyway | Tom's Hardware [23:37] phobos Bin Laden's escapades put some people on a hair trigger [23:39] phobos Isn't intel the company that accidentally posted charts about 7th gen cpus being planned with the ability to communicate with cell towers to phone home? [23:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:43] phobos https://www.theregister.com/2020/05/13/us_spying_laws/ [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Now there's nothing stopping the PATRIOT Act allowing the FBI to slurp web-browsing histories without a warrant The Register [23:43] phobos Sorry... didn't mean to crash the convo [23:43] activelow you didn't [23:50] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:56] kingoffrance well i dont follow such things, but hollywood loves the imagery. cia was supposed to centralize . then they started doing covert missions etc. so some ppl say *that* is derogation from original authorization [23:56] kingoffrance the majority of reality is probably some guy in an office, pouring through reports [23:57] kingoffrance yes, patriot act no doubt made it worse [23:57] kingoffrance point being: centralize other things -> start collecting yourself maybe -> start acting on information again, i dont follow, just showing the trajectory [23:57] kingoffrance i dont know all the different agencies/etc. [23:59] kingoffrance or all the history, etc. [23:59] kingoffrance but yes, they were originally "collect it all" in sense of "coordinate all the other data from the prior agencies" [23:59] activelow another distinction is missing: mass surveillance or individual surveillance [23:59] kingoffrance some ppl say different agencies dont trust eachother or like to share [23:59] kingoffrance another reason perhaps why that was original plan