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| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/251 | Oct 14 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Adorno Returns - Existential Comics | Oct 14 06:10 | |
| superkuh | Wow. You went there. A long point by point comparison of RMS and Jesus. | Oct 14 06:18 |
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| oiaohm | superkuh: https://stallman.org/saint.html | Oct 14 06:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Saint IGNUcius - Richard Stallman | Oct 14 06:21 | |
| superkuh | Yeah, it's a fun joke. | Oct 14 06:22 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1906277 | Oct 14 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 14 06:23 | |
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| schestowitz | lol stock photography | Oct 14 06:56 |
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| jagadees | https://thetech.com/2019/10/03/liberal-outrage-white-supremacy-epstein | Oct 14 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thetech.com | Liberal outrage and white supremacy: the case of Epstein | The Tech | Oct 14 07:18 | |
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| jagadees | Use and throw culture based on lies can't be coming from Free Software philosophy | Oct 14 08:09 |
| jagadees | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/14/use-and-throw-culture-based-on-lies-cant-be-coming-from-free-software-philosophy/ | Oct 14 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Use and throw culture based on lies can’t be coming from Free Software philosophy – neritam | Oct 14 08:09 | |
| schestowitz | jagadees: cheers | Oct 14 08:11 |
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| jagadees | ty | Oct 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz | Michael Moor is Michael Moore | Oct 14 08:12 |
| jagadees | ty i will correct it | Oct 14 08:13 |
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| schestowitz | In Gawker's words: "there's plenty of pictures from gatherings of scientists that Epstein has hosted on his private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands. Here he is with former Microsoft chief technology officer Nathan Myhrvold, for instance. There are also shots of Stephen Hawking hanging out on Epstein's dime." | Oct 14 09:47 |
| schestowitz | Can you give me links/more information about this, please? We've long researched him... <a href="#top">█</a> | Oct 14 09:47 |
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| zoobab | Nathan Myhrvold? | Oct 14 10:06 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | went to pedoville | Oct 14 10:13 |
| schestowitz | I've just done a followup story http://techrights.org/2019/10/14/microsoft-on-thin-ice/ | Oct 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | he's mentioned towards the end | Oct 14 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No Calls to “Remove Gates” From the Board (Over a Real Scandal/Crime), Only to “Remove Stallman” (Over Phony Distraction From the Former) | Techrights | Oct 14 10:14 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: he >might< be a pedo, but based on the context proof is lacking | Oct 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | unlike with gates | Oct 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | he's almost certainly a pedophile based on what he himself wrote | Oct 14 10:15 |
| schestowitz | NY Times published about that on Saturday night | Oct 14 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16235049 | Oct 14 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #billgates is miles worse than Bill Clinton and Cosby | Oct 14 10:17 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/bill-gates/ You need to read the time line here a lot more carefully. Yes Gates is still on the Microsoft board but he is no longer the chairman. The overlap the timelines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein | Oct 14 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Bill Gates - Stories | Oct 14 11:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jeffrey Epstein - Wikipedia | Oct 14 11:21 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: 2008 when Epstein gets charged Bill gates reduces his role in the company. 2014 when victims charges turn up with Epstein the result is Bill Gates no longer Chairman of board who can make executive actions. | Oct 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Stallman being removed from FSF president position is in line with what happened to Bill Gates. | Oct 14 11:23 |
| oiaohm | Of course Bill Gates with Microsoft PR was attempting to avoid being pulled though the media ringer. | Oct 14 11:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: lot of people miss that Bill Gates changes in position inside Microsoft line up with the Epstein criminal cases. | Oct 14 11:27 |
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| schestowitz | [11:27] <oiaohm> schestowitz: lot of people miss that Bill Gates changes in position inside Microsoft line up with the Epstein criminal cases. | Oct 14 16:09 |
| schestowitz | how so? | Oct 14 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Can you line up the timeline? | Oct 14 16:09 |
| schestowitz | he become Board and not CEO ages ago | Oct 14 16:09 |
| schestowitz | *became | Oct 14 16:10 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Bill gates stopped being chairman of the board feb 2014 and came a normal board member. That lines up with the case that shows up latter that year. | Oct 14 16:14 |
| oiaohm | Also June 27, 2008 is when Bill gates pull back from being involved in day to day activities of Microsoft as well. That lines up with what you would expect to have happened after February 6, 2008 Epstein case. | Oct 14 16:15 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: yes 2000 Bill gates stopped being CEO and came Chairman of the board of Microsoft. That really did not change his day to day control of operations that much. | Oct 14 16:16 |
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| oiaohm | USA business law Bill Gates could not hold chairman of the board and be CEO of the company at the same time. | Oct 14 16:16 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically 2000 was a form of promotion. | Oct 14 16:17 |
| oiaohm | 2008 and 2014 were both demotions. | Oct 14 16:17 |
| schestowitz | hmmm | Oct 14 16:18 |
| schestowitz | interesting | Oct 14 16:18 |
| schestowitz | what were the official motivations given to the media | Oct 14 16:18 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Gates transitioned out of a day-to-day role in the company to spend more time on his global health and education work at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Gates continues to serve on Microsoft’s board of directors and as an advisor on key development projects. << that the 2008 one. | Oct 14 16:19 |
| schestowitz | (it's starting to sound more plausible when you put it like that, Sinofsky also left and he's Epstein-connected) | Oct 14 16:19 |
| schestowitz | nothing says "global health" like trafficking kids | Oct 14 16:19 |
| oiaohm | It not like in his position he had to move in 2008 to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. | Oct 14 16:20 |
| oiaohm | Melinda had been managing it quite well without him. | Oct 14 16:20 |
| oiaohm | The 2008 change reasoning does not read solid at all. | Oct 14 16:20 |
| oiaohm | He served as chairman of the board until Feb. 4, 2014. << that is all they say about chairman. | Oct 14 16:21 |
| oiaohm | No reason at all just he stepped down. | Oct 14 16:21 |
| oiaohm | remember board member has no direct operational control for management where chairman did. | Oct 14 16:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically reading that back history it does not read solid at all. So I cannot say that Bill gates was not punished particular when you look at the timeline of events. | Oct 14 16:23 |
| oiaohm | Of course Microsoft managed the media doing the change a lot better. | Oct 14 16:24 |
| schestowitz | links? | Oct 14 16:26 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/bill-gates/ that the Microsoft bill gates write up that have the 2008 and feb 2014 dates and those sections of text I used. | Oct 14 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.microsoft.com | Bill Gates - Stories | Oct 14 16:27 | |
| schestowitz | ok, let me clarify | Oct 14 16:28 |
| schestowitz | I need any links that better explain this connection | Oct 14 16:28 |
| schestowitz | e.g. if shareholders discussed pedophilia as a factor | Oct 14 16:28 |
| oiaohm | that is my problem about those changes. | Oct 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise my sole source is some anon aussie all I know about is that he's a tech, slightly autistic and very tall (I don't even know your name) | Oct 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | can you check dates of these things | Oct 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | sentences, departures | Oct 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | Board meeting minutes etc.? | Oct 14 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we can work in reverse, but it would take lots of digging to prove a correlation so many years later | Oct 14 16:30 |
| oiaohm | That the thing there are no public board meeting minutes and there is no real shareholder discucssion of why those changes. | Oct 14 16:30 |
| oiaohm | Nothing about those leaking is also kind strange. | Oct 14 16:32 |
| schestowitz | well, so good luck guessing | Oct 14 16:33 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather discuss what's known, not speculated | Oct 14 16:33 |
| oiaohm | Its why not to push that bill gates has not been punished to hard. The timelines say something could be hidden their we don't know. | Oct 14 16:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I was not giving you this really to write a piece it more a heads up that there could be something there that could make you look like a jackass if unknown information happens to be a particular way. | Oct 14 16:35 |
| oiaohm | Now asking for clarification on the 2008 and 2014 changes in bill gates position may be a safer move. | Oct 14 16:36 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there are better examples of parties at the top other than bill gates that have not been punished yet with work histories that don't show the possibility of being punished. | Oct 14 16:39 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: Remember its also a speculation that Bill Gates as not punished. The evidence we have access does not say Bill Gates was absolutely punished but the evidence we have access to also does not say he was not punished. | Oct 14 16:45 |
| oiaohm | Speculation gets media into trouble. | Oct 14 16:45 |
| schestowitz | if you want to air this | Oct 14 16:49 |
| schestowitz | (not just in IRC logs) | Oct 14 16:50 |
| schestowitz | then please add some links to make a timeline | Oct 14 16:50 |
| schestowitz | otherwise, while seemingly plausible, there's little in terms of substance to support what you claim happened | Oct 14 16:50 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: problem is there is little in term of substance to Bill Gates got of scott free was well that you pushed in one write up as well. I think it a area that should be just classed as unknown for now. | Oct 14 17:01 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqYKhbyHFtA | Oct 14 19:18 |
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| decnet | .................................... | Oct 14 20:17 |
| schestowitz | ^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h | Oct 14 20:17 |
| decnet | "Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000" | Oct 14 20:17 |
| decnet | https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2019/10/apple-of-2019-is-linux-of-2000.html?utm_source=digg | Oct 14 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nibblestew.blogspot.com | Nibble Stew - a gathering of development thoughts: Apple of 2019 is the Linux of 2000 | Oct 14 20:17 | |
| schestowitz | yup | Oct 14 20:18 |
| schestowitz | I saw it this morning | Oct 14 20:18 |
| MinceR | the year of the macos desktop? | Oct 14 20:18 |
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| scientes | stupid | Oct 14 20:19 |
| scientes | yes, Linux is the only OS that supports any hardware | Oct 14 20:19 |
| decnet | He sounds pissed :] | Oct 14 20:19 |
| scientes | it has been that way for over a decade | Oct 14 20:20 |
| MinceR | the author sounds like he tried to use GNU/Linux without any understanding and that's of course the kernel's fault | Oct 14 20:20 |
| scientes | and will only continue if people continue doing the work | Oct 14 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | I think you misunderstood the post | Oct 14 20:22 |
| schestowitz | he mocks Apple and its fans | Oct 14 20:22 |
| decnet | Who was once said the best way of defeating something was to join it and subvert it from this inside? | Oct 14 20:23 |
| decnet | James Pal .. something? | Oct 14 20:24 |
| decnet | James Plamondon:" I talked about how you’re using the pawns and you’re going to screw them if they don’t do what you want" http://techrights.org/2008/11/15/microsoft-guerrilla-people-monsters/ | Oct 14 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | James Plamondon: Microsoft Guerrilla | Techrights | Oct 14 20:26 | |
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| decnet | https://blog.regolit.com/files/f/MS-Evangelism.pdf | Oct 14 20:29 |
| MinceR | also, did Linux disable USB ports on laptops in 2000 or something? | Oct 14 20:29 |
| decnet | for device in $(ls /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/product); do echo $device;cat $device;done | Oct 14 20:36 |
| decnet | echo suspend | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/level | Oct 14 20:36 |
| decnet | echo on | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/level | Oct 14 20:36 |
| decnet | "Microsoft Joins Academy Software Foundation as a Premier Member" https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press-release/2019/09/microsoft-joins-academy-software-foundation-as-a-premier-member/ | Oct 14 20:37 |
| decnet | “At Microsoft, our mission is to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more, and it’s this mission that drives our commitment to open source,” | Oct 14 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Microsoft Joins Academy Software Foundation as a Premier Member - The Linux Foundation | Oct 14 20:37 | |
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| decnet | As usual what they are really about is co-opting mind-share in the public mind for 'Microsoft Open Source' | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz | techrights covered this several times | Oct 14 20:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe you saw those articles | Oct 14 20:40 |
| schestowitz | and yes, t's sntryism, classic | Oct 14 20:40 |
| decnet | I did, I do read the artiles ! | Oct 14 20:40 |
| schestowitz | you missed the better quote | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | about them buying the seat | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | this is what this money was all about, the sear | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | seat | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | later more was discovered about these | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | but I forgot he details | Oct 14 20:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/10/14/linux-foundation-board-meeting/ | Oct 14 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Board Meeting | Techrights | Oct 14 20:41 | |
| decnet | What's the 'Linux Kernel Mentorship Program' and does it have any relation to Linus Torvalds' Linux Kernel? | Oct 14 20:44 |
| decnet | https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2019/09/the-linux-kernel-mentorship-is-life-changing/ | Oct 14 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Kernel Mentorship is Life Changing - The Linux Foundation | Oct 14 20:44 | |
| decnet | "Before learning of the Linux Kernel Mentorship Program, I was interested in learning how to contribute to the Linux kernel, but didn’t know how and where to start" | Oct 14 20:45 |
| decnet | How about contributing code to the Linux Kernel? | Oct 14 20:45 |
| schestowitz | haha | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | get a degree in CS or similar | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | OR | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | self-taught programming at home | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | join a company that does kernel patches | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | work your way up | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | WIN | Oct 14 20:47 |
| schestowitz | But no... instead let's pay Zemlin and his marketing colleagues for a piece of paper | Oct 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | and if Linus reject your code, call him rude and sexisy | Oct 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | *sexist | Oct 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | eventually, only Linux Kernel Mentorship Program grads will do Linux patches | Oct 14 20:48 |
| schestowitz | and the quality of the kernel will reach new lows | Oct 14 20:49 |
| decnet | "Steps for contributing to the Linux Kernel" .. "send the patch using email .. To know the list of maintainers" | Oct 14 20:49 |
| decnet | https://opensource.com/article/18/8/first-linux-kernel-patch | Oct 14 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steps for contributing to the Linux Kernel | Opensource.com | Oct 14 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | kaniini: same issue as yesterday? | Oct 14 20:50 |
| decnet | So, is "The Linux foundation" totally compromised? | Oct 14 20:50 |
| kaniini | no this is incompetent remote hands | Oct 14 20:50 |
| *schestowitz does not believe in totalities | Oct 14 20:50 | |
| kaniini | i asked about replacing the PDU this evening in a coordinated way and they just went and did it | Oct 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: oh, relief | Oct 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: that thing about crypto mining was alarming | Oct 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: maybe I can even help somehow? | Oct 14 20:51 |
| kaniini | heh | Oct 14 20:52 |
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| kaniini | not really | Oct 14 20:54 |
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| kaniini | as someone just said | Oct 14 20:55 |
| kaniini | I don't pay for remote brains | Oct 14 20:55 |
| kaniini | only the hands | Oct 14 20:55 |
| schestowitz | you mistakenly hired zombies for Halloween... brainzzzz | Oct 14 20:56 |
| schestowitz | kaniini: is viera on the way back? | Oct 14 20:57 |
| kaniini | give me a moment. | Oct 14 20:58 |
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| kaniini | ok it is back | Oct 14 21:00 |
| schestowitz | cheers !! | Oct 14 21:00 |
| kaniini | i should actually write a proper init script for viera | Oct 14 21:02 |
| schestowitz | systemd to the rescured [sic] | Oct 14 21:03 |
| kaniini | then it would just automatically come back | Oct 14 21:03 |
| kaniini | right now, it runs under tmux | Oct 14 21:03 |
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| kaniini | there | Oct 14 21:07 |
| kaniini | now it runs under supervise-daemon(8) | Oct 14 21:07 |
| kaniini | much better :) | Oct 14 21:07 |
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| decnet | What's supervise-daemon(8) in reference to, it's like listening to only one side of the conversation? | Oct 14 21:10 |
| decnet | Good Grief "Linux Foundation Director Uses Mac OSX?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBFlU7Cy3fM | Oct 14 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Director Uses Mac OSX? - YouTube | Oct 14 21:12 | |
| XRevan86 | decnet: kaniini configured a daemon to run under it | Oct 14 21:12 |
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| kaniini | just checking to make sure it will come back on a reboot | Oct 14 21:12 |
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| XRevan86 | and so it has | Oct 14 21:13 |
| kaniini | neat :) | Oct 14 21:13 |
| decnet | kaniini: what comes back, explain! | Oct 14 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | (2012:36) viera left ze room (Remote host closed the connection). | Oct 14 21:13 |
| XRevan86 | (20:13:06) viera entered ze room | Oct 14 21:13 |
| scientes | "ze"? | Oct 14 21:14 |
| XRevan86 | da room | Oct 14 21:14 |
| MinceR | don't misgender ze room :> | Oct 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | auf wiedersehen | Oct 14 21:16 |
| scientes | ahhh, what is with tickets without any luggage! | Oct 14 21:17 |
| scientes | and no option of carry-on | Oct 14 21:17 |
| scientes | who the hell can travel without clothes? | Oct 14 21:17 |
| MinceR | maybe the idea is that you just take a credit card, buy clothes where you go, and throw them in the trash before you go home | Oct 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | wear a big coar | Oct 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | *coat | Oct 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | use layers as secondary sett :-) | Oct 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | or put them in a Duty Free plastic bag LOL | Oct 14 21:19 |
| scientes | no clothes. travel to russia. great idea | Oct 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | nudist Siberian beach in summertime | Oct 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | scientes: sarcasm side... | Oct 14 21:20 |
| schestowitz | some couples travel | Oct 14 21:20 |
| kaniini | are you going to russia to help rig the next US election | Oct 14 21:20 |
| schestowitz | sometimes one can rely on the partner's cargo and doesn't need extra luggage | Oct 14 21:20 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/629307.jpg | Oct 14 21:24 |
| decnet | Have I de-phased into invisibility, like in that episode of Voyager "Distant Origin" | Oct 14 21:24 |
| kaniini | that was TNG | Oct 14 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | That was indeed TNG | Oct 14 21:25 |
| decnet | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_Origin | Oct 14 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Distant Origin - Wikipedia | Oct 14 21:25 | |
| decnet | The two aliens sneek onto the Bridge using a phazing device. | Oct 14 21:26 |
| MinceR | crew remains unphazed. | Oct 14 21:26 |
| decnet | Haaar! | Oct 14 21:26 |
| schestowitz | haar | Oct 14 21:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/ | Oct 14 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Looney Tunes – Part 2: The “Difficult Legacy” and Its Dark Historical Shadow | Techrights | Oct 14 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | arrr arrr arrr | Oct 14 21:27 |
| XRevan86 | I thought about that episode with Ro Laren | Oct 14 21:27 |
| decnet | Speaking of air-travel: if you stayed on the plane, it would be cheaper than the cost of hotel fair at either destination :] | Oct 14 21:28 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Phase | Oct 14 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Next Phase - Wikipedia | Oct 14 21:29 | |
| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/253 | Oct 14 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Utilitarian Calculator - Existential Comics | Oct 14 21:29 | |
| decnet | Star Trek: Voyager last episode broadcast in 2001, that long ago, didn't catch it the first time round, was traveling a lot. | Oct 14 21:31 |
| decnet | Anyone catch 'The Expanse'? | Oct 14 21:32 |
| decnet | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(TV_series) | Oct 14 21:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Expanse (TV series) - Wikipedia | Oct 14 21:32 | |
| XRevan86 | decnet: I have | Oct 14 21:33 |
| XRevan86 | decnet: Good stuff. | Oct 14 21:33 |
| decnet | Yea, there's a lot of derivative stuff in there, but they put it together in interesting ways. | Oct 14 21:35 |
| decnet | Also 'Dark Matter' was good, except they cancelled it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Matter_(TV_series) | Oct 14 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dark Matter (TV series) - Wikipedia | Oct 14 21:39 | |
| XRevan86 | decnet: And it ended on a cliff-hanger. | Oct 14 21:39 |
| decnet | There's an episode in it wherre, if you want to travel they construct a body-double at the other end and download a copy of your mind into it. At the end of the holiday, your new mmories are uploaded into your mind and the body is destroyed. | Oct 14 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | How Dark Matter ended: "We are in deep shit!", then https://youtu.be/sgQtkJIX2zE | Oct 14 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Парам парам пам (Ералаш) - YouTube | Oct 14 21:40 | |
| decnet | Except if the body gets killed, and it also has a limited lifespan. Douglas Adams would of been proud of the scriot :] | Oct 14 21:41 |
| decnet | Correction: "if the body gets killed" then you lose the memories - but no refunds :] | Oct 14 21:43 |
| decnet | This f*****g keyboard is crap and it isn't even old. I want one of those old IBM clunky keyboards! | Oct 14 21:46 |
| MinceR | Cherry MX Blue > buckling sprint | Oct 14 21:47 |
| MinceR | s/nt/ng/ | Oct 14 21:47 |
| *XRevan86 hasn't changed a keyboard in years. | Oct 14 21:47 | |
| XRevan86 | Alas it needs cleaning, permanently | Oct 14 21:47 |
| MinceR | what's permanent cleaning like? | Oct 14 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: A permanent *need* in cleaning | Oct 14 21:49 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 14 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | A week after I cleaned it, it needed cleaning. | Oct 14 21:49 |
| decnet | New series of Mr. Robot back, not that anyone here bares any similarity to 'Elliot Alderson' :] | Oct 14 21:58 |
| decnet | gtg .................. | Oct 14 22:00 |
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| MinceR | https://www.chinalawblog.com/2019/09/chinas-new-cybersecurity-program-no-place-to-hide.html | Oct 14 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chinalawblog.com | China's New Cybersecurity Program: NO Place to Hide | China Law Blog | Oct 14 22:09 | |
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| dyfet | @schestowitz while I did notice you had a story about suse and openstack, I think it misses an additional context, which is "suseexit"; this is the process of opensuse separating itself from suse, something they are doing while there is currently non-hostile ownership, even going so far as to consider dropping the "suse" name from opensuse, as their principle connection remains trademarks. I suspect this plays into the | Oct 14 22:32 |
| dyfet | openstack retreat, though I am not sure how. | Oct 14 22:32 |
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| dyfet | I did find a thread about it on their public mailing list, and in it they are very clear that at least one of the driving motivations is a concern over possible (future) adverse changes in suse ownership; I could understand that clearly. | Oct 14 22:40 |
| dyfet | (any possible), I did not get the impression they believed anything specific was imminent, but given the history...I do get suseexit. | Oct 14 22:43 |
| cubexyz | Plamondon deserves his place on the list of Microsoft jerks | Oct 14 23:21 |
| cubexyz | many other examples of course | Oct 14 23:22 |
| cubexyz | the M$ environment was pretty caustic | Oct 14 23:22 |
| dyfet | Plamondon? | Oct 14 23:24 |
| cubexyz | dyfet, it's kind of old news | Oct 14 23:24 |
| cubexyz | he was a M$ evangelist in the 1990s | Oct 14 23:25 |
| cubexyz | I think decent mentioned him recently | Oct 14 23:25 |
| cubexyz | decnet | Oct 14 23:25 |
| dyfet | Oh, okay...I never knew those people, i think thankfully | Oct 14 23:25 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/list-of-microsoft-jerks.txt | Oct 14 23:26 |
| cubexyz | there's a reader's digest version :) | Oct 14 23:26 |
| dyfet | gotcha | Oct 14 23:27 |
| cubexyz | they would go around to different developers conferences and actively discourage any non-M$ development | Oct 14 23:28 |
| cubexyz | so Mac, Unix, etc, would get this treatment.. very common in the mid-1990s | Oct 14 23:28 |
| dyfet | in the mid 90's i was fairly isolated doing telephony on gnu/linux, so i guess i missed much of that | Oct 14 23:29 |
| cubexyz | yeah the first Halloween document was leaked around oct 1998 | Oct 14 23:30 |
| cubexyz | it was a bad time for computing I'd say | Oct 14 23:30 |
| dyfet | that i do recall | Oct 14 23:30 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: the horrible part is how successful those jerks were at what they were upto. | Oct 14 23:58 |
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