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No 'second chances'. #patent agenda of blackmail artists. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=b8a0b60b-3298-4ca5-88b9-2713a2db3473 [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The amendment before the EPO of a patent subject to ongoing litigation - Lexology [01:04] techrights-bot #ForwardPharma shows how #fakePatents at the #EPO ruin companies https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/12/2157514/0/en/Forward-Pharma-Announces-Rescheduling-of-the-EP2801355-Appeal-Hearing-to-September-6-2021-due-to-COVID-19-Restrictions.html see https://techrights.org/2018/05/08/when-granting-patents-in-error-forward-pharma-and-boa-ptab/ [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Forward Pharma Announces Rescheduling of the EP2801355 Appeal Hearing to September 6, 2021 due to COVID-19 Restrictions Nasdaq:FWP [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forward Pharma an Example of the Devastating Effect of Granting Patents in Error A Problem Appeal Boards Must Correct | Techrights [01:04] techrights-bot Links 14/1/2021: Wine 6.0, Debian 11 Freeze, and Alpine Linux 3.13 http://techrights.org/2021/01/14/alpine-linux-3-13/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/1/2021: Wine 6.0, Debian 11 Freeze, and Alpine Linux 3.13 | Techrights [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:05] techrights-bot #fox #mushroom #bird https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/19/a058e22cd108a42d.jpg [01:05] techrights-bot ECS LIVA: ARM versions of mini-PCs introduced that run Android and Ubuntu natively http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146272#comment-27799 #gnu #linux [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ECS Liva Q1A is a 2.9 inch mini PC that runs Android or Ubuntu | Tux Machines [01:06] techrights-bot "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Garuda KDE Dr460nized 210107 and some of the applications pre-installed." 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Seemed appropriate. [02:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [02:31] *ellewolfe (~ellewolfe@2601:602:9a00:1450:e0f8:d16b:662a:bacb) has joined #techrights [02:41] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140121.txt Read the log now... [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 14, 2021 [02:41] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140121.txt Read the log now... [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 14, 2021 [02:41] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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[02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 14, 2021 [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-14.txt ● Jan 15 [03:00] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 37 GB TotalOut: 17 GB [03:00] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:01] techrights-ipfs QmWWQQtzHgRQEoj3GYorKvsrkrB7pJfG38CtzeYh4bA1tz [03:14] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [03:14] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:18] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/business/biden-stimulus-debt-trump/index.html [03:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US debt surged by $7 trillion under Trump. It will go much higher under Biden - CNN [03:18] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: A "recovery" with a million more lost jobs last week. [03:19] DaemonFC[m] "Need MOAR STIMULUS! ANIMAL SPIRITS!!!!!1111" [03:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [03:21] DaemonFC[m] Then there's another call for 50, 75, and 100 year government bonds. [03:25] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/microsoft-oracle-salesforce-join-effort-to-develop-covid-19-vaccination-digital-passport [03:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce join effort to develop COVID-19 vaccination digital passport | Fox Business [03:34] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Mom's lucky she's about to retire. [03:34] DaemonFC[m] COVID has killed about 15% of the nursing home population in most states. [03:34] DaemonFC[m] Nursing turns out to not be the job of the future. [03:34] DaemonFC[m] Demand rolls back to where it was about 6 years ago in just 10 months. ● Jan 15 [04:14] *randomgry (~test@unaffiliated/gryllida) has joined #techrights [04:14] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:16] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:18] *randomgry is now known as gry [04:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [04:20] *acer-box__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [04:21] -NickServ-acer-box__!~acer-box@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [04:21] *acer-box__ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights ● Jan 15 [05:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [05:38] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) [05:49] *Digit (~user@fsf/member/digit) has joined #techrights [05:54] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, January 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [05:54] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:55] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [05:57] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 15 [06:00] techrights-bot 2 trillion dollars deficit per year. And over half of that goes to the Empire/Military https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/business/biden-stimulus-debt-trump/index.html [06:00] techrights-bot #billgates and #microsoft as #socialcontrol profiteers in the wake of #covid19 https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/microsoft-oracle-salesforce-join-effort-to-develop-covid-19-vaccination-digital-passport [06:09] techrights-bot Oppose Certification of the ES&S #ExpressVote XL Voting [sic] Machine https://howiehawkins.us/oppose-certification-of-the-ess-expressvote-xl-voting-machine/ #ProprietarySoftware [06:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Oppose Certification of the ES&S ExpressVote XL Voting Machine | Howie Hawkins for President | Angela Walker for Vice President [06:12] techrights-bot WhatsApp New Policy And the Backlash From Common People Will Cooldown http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/whatsapp-new-policy-and-the-backlash-from-common-people-will-cooldown #deleteFacebook #WhatsApp #surveillance [06:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | WhatsApp New Policy And the Backlash From "Common" People Will Cooldown [06:17] techrights-bot Announcing #Istio 1.8.2 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.8.x/announcing-1.8.2/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly [06:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.8.2 [06:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [06:23] techrights-bot Help Quit #WhatsApp http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146496 #surveillance #facebook #fb [06:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Help Quit WhatsApp | Tux Machines [06:24] techrights-bot "Need some suggestions? Here's a few games I consider essential purchases for a #GNU #Linux gamer..." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/bomber-crew-free-humble-winter-sale [06:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get a free copy of Bomber Crew during the Humble Winter Sale | GamingOnLinux [06:34] techrights-bot Linux 5.12 To Allow Disabling #Intel Graphics #Security Mitigations - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-512-i915-Mitigations-Knob #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [06:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 To Allow Disabling Intel Graphics Security Mitigations - Phoronix [06:36] techrights-bot Debian 'Bullseye' enters final phase before release as team debates whether it will be last to work on i386 architecture http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146487#comment-27805 #debian #gnu #linux [06:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bullseye freeze | Tux Machines [06:37] techrights-bot "I (and Socorro and Tecken) got re-orged into the Data Org." #mozilla #surveillance #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware https://bluesock.org/~willkg/blog/mozilla/socorro_2020_h2.html [06:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bluesock.org | Socorro Engineering: Half in Review 2020 h2 and 2020 retrospective | Will's Blog [06:39] techrights-bot #mozilla tries to mislead and confuse the public into thinking #firefox stands for #privacy and while it was likely true in that past this is no longer the case. Obfuscation campaign of PR. [06:40] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:41] techrights-bot #ericsson : let's say a bunch of garbage about #freesw #security while we give #patents for #patentTrolls to attack Free software https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2021/1/open-source-security-software [06:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source software security in an ICT context - Ericsson [06:46] techrights-bot #russia admits that its #covid19 #vaccine is basically "trial"; the West is far too arrogant to call its #clinicalTrials just that... instead telling us we have effective #vaccination already [06:49] techrights-bot #Kafka destination improved with template support in syslog-ng https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/kafka-destination-improved-with-template-support-in-syslog-ng #syslog-ng [06:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kafka destination improved with template support in syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [06:51] techrights-bot "Customer Happiness Team" but I have heard some not-so-happy stories about #system76 (maybe isolated incidents, maybe not) https://blog.system76.com/post/640308272336896000 [06:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog Behind the Scenes of System76: Customer Happiness... 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[08:20] schestowitz just tested, but it is buggy [08:20] schestowitz reverting back [08:20] schestowitz trying to fix and change that [08:29] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:49] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:51] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Jan 15 [09:01] techrights-bot #Proton 5.13-5 Fixes World Sounds in Cyberpunk 2077, Improves #Fallout76 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146498 #GNU #Linux [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proton 5.13-5 Fixes World Sounds in Cyberpunk 2077, Improves Fallout 76 and More | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, January 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/15/irc-log-140121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, January 14, 2021 | Techrights [09:10] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [09:17] schestowitz we think the issue might be a hybrid of charsets [09:17] schestowitz which xchat, the logger, does not cope with well in its Buster build, unlike xchat-gnome [09:17] schestowitz all very peculiar, but we'll figure this out eventually [09:20] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [09:24] techrights-bot Another Linux #Kernel Vulnerability Was Patched in All Supported #Ubuntu Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146499 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another Linux Kernel Vulnerability Was Patched in All Supported Ubuntu Releases | Tux Machines [09:38] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [09:39] schestowitz I think we've isolated the culprit [09:42] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [09:42] techrights-bot The #voting machines #cartel in the US is rigged, utter shite, and #proprietarySoftware with back doors (not a new problem). Now they'll just accuse people of supporting insurrection when these people call them out on unfit-for-use machines. #microsoft [09:51] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 minutes: IPFS upstream, 60 minutes: [09:53] techrights-bot #HowTo Install Privacy-friendly #Whatsapp Alternative Signal in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Privacy-friendly Whatsapp Alternative Signal in Linux | Tux Machines [09:55] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [09:56] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 15 [10:38] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [10:51] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: IPFS upstream, 60 mins: ● Jan 15 [11:01] schestowitz http://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol312-libertarianism-in-brief-response-to-anarchy-rising/ [11:01] schestowitz ": Intellectual Property, Ron Paul vs RonPaul.Com, Aaron Swartz, Corporatism. " [11:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL312 | Libertarianism in Brief: Response to Anarchy Rising [11:03] techrights-bot The #copyright #cartel goes after poorer countries as well http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/royalty-distribution-in-nigeria-must.html [11:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Royalty distribution in Nigeria: Must collective management organisations distribute royalties only to members whose works were used? - The IPKat [11:05] techrights-bot #Wine 6.0 Released, Download Your Copy Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27806 [11:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [11:08] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [11:08] techrights-bot How #freesw builds distributed trust http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source builds distributed trust | Tux Machines [11:08] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:10] techrights-bot tomboy-ng Simple Note-Taking Application for Desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146501 [11:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | tomboy-ng Simple Note-Taking Application for Desktops | Tux Machines [11:12] techrights-bot 5 reasons why you should develop a Linux #container strategy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 reasons why you should develop a Linux container strategy | Tux Machines [11:15] techrights-bot #Wine 6.0 is out with better #Direct3D support and other improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27807 #gnu #linux [11:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [11:24] techrights-bot #BeagleV : An Affordable #RISCV Computer Designed to Run #GNU #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431#comment-27808 [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux Machines [11:25] schestowitz LOL! [11:25] schestowitz https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10x-microsofts-cloud-powered-chrome-os-competitor-inches-closer/ [11:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10X: Microsoft's 'cloud-powered' Chrome OS competitor inches closer | ZDNet [11:25] schestowitz clown [11:25] schestowitz who the f would want THAT? [11:25] schestowitz they might subsidise it for the spying [11:25] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:26] techrights-bot #microsoft #windows is unsuitable for production systems. It is just for toying around. WINTENDO. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-10-bug-corrupts-your-hard-drive-on-seeing-this-files-icon/ [11:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows 10 bug corrupts your hard drive on seeing this file's icon [11:27] techrights-bot Partners Feel Betrayed, Taken Aback By Microsofts Direct Calls To Customers https://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/partners-feel-betrayed-taken-aback-by-microsoft-s-direct-calls-to-customers [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crn.com | Partners Feel Betrayed, Taken Aback By Microsofts Direct Calls To Customers [11:27] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:27] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:38] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:42] *tr_guest|95843 (d82d35aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.45.53.170) has joined #techrights [11:42] *tr_guest|95843 (d82d35aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.45.53.170) has left #techrights [11:43] *tr_guest|86169 (d82d35aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.216.45.53.170) has joined #techrights [11:44] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:45] *aindilis` (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [11:45] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146504 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [11:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [11:49] *habaner0 (~user@104.244.77.112) has joined #techrights [11:51] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: IPFS upstream, 60 mins: [11:51] techrights-bot #awk in a nutshell https://opensource.com/article/21/1/learn-awk [11:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Learn awk by coding a "guess the number" game | Opensource.com [11:51] *tr_guest|86169 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [11:51] schestowitz very strange [11:54] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: IPFS upstream, 60 mins: [11:56] techrights-bot 3 plain text note-taking tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146501#comment-27809 #freesw [11:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | tomboy-ng Simple Note-Taking Application for Desktops | Tux Machines ● Jan 15 [12:00] techrights-bot Josef Strzibny: Working with decimals in #Elixir https://nts.strzibny.name/decimals-in-elixir/ #programming [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Working with decimals in Elixir [12:01] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: IPFS upstream: [12:09] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:13] schestowitz vZS1_2: seems like we're being throttled again [12:13] schestowitz 24 hours later [12:13] schestowitz I wonder if IPFS upsets something at their end [12:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: IPFS upstream: [12:17] techrights-bot What my #GNU #Linux adventure is teaching me about our possible future http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146505 [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What my Linux adventure is teaching me about our possible future | Tux Machines [12:23] techrights-bot UPC boosters in 'journalist' clothing -- that is what JUVE has become https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/uk-patent-boutiques-must-be-bold-about-closer-links-with-europe/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | "UK patent boutiques must be bold about closer links with Europe" - JUVE Patent [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [12:24] techrights-bot "UPC faces more delay" is a lie; #UPC will never materialise, but UPC boosters carry on spinning and lying https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q3wtpcppq2bx/this-week-in-ip-samsung-top-ptab-petitioner-upc-faces-more-delay-michael-jordan-wins-in-china [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: Samsung top PTAB petitioner, UPC faces more delay, Michael Jordan wins in China | Managing Intellectual Property [12:26] techrights-bot "There is no mention of the UKs continued participation in the Unified Patent Court (UPC)" is misleading as there's no UPC and there never will be. https://www.keystonelaw.com/keynotes/what-the-uk-eu-trade-deal-means-for-intellectual-property-rights [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.keystonelaw.com | What the UK-EU trade deal means for intellectual property rights : Keystone Law [12:28] techrights-bot "Readers of our blog will know that the Unitary Patent System has had a chequered and controversial past." Because it's illegal? And unconstitutional? And promoted using lies, bribes, lobbying... https://thelens.slaughterandmay.com/post/102gom5/superhero-status-the-european-commission-and-its-ip-action-plan [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thelens.slaughterandmay.com | Superhero status?: the European Commission and its IP Action Plan, Dr Catherine Cotter [12:30] techrights-bot #teamUPC does not like being called out on its #upc lies because there are so many of them that it's embarrassing. #grifting #fraud #corruption [12:31] psydroid Putting lipstick on a pig that still loses your data because there has been little to no development on core operating system features themselves [12:31] vZS1_2 schestowitz: My guess is as good as yours. No data. [12:31] schestowitz they should try "X Enterprise Premium Peo" [12:35] techrights-bot Daniel Stenberg: Food on the table while giving away code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Daniel Stenberg: Food on the table while giving away code | Tux Machines [12:35] schestowitz https://anarc.at/blog/2021-01-13-new-phone/ [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | New phone: Pixel 4a - anarcat [12:35] schestowitz "I'm sorry to announce that I gave up on the Fairphone series and switched to a Google Phone (Pixel 4a) running CalyxOS." [12:39] techrights-bot Open-Source #Nouveau Driver Now Supports #NVIDIA Ampere - But Without 3D Acceleration - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nouveau-Ampere-Modesetting #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [12:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open-Source "Nouveau" Driver Now Supports NVIDIA Ampere - But Without 3D Acceleration - Phoronix [12:41] techrights-bot Portable and reproducible #kernel builds with #TuxMake https://lwn.net/Articles/841624/ [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Portable and reproducible kernel builds with TuxMake [LWN.net] [12:43] techrights-bot Bootstrappable builds https://lwn.net/Articles/841797/ #programming [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bootstrappable builds [LWN.net] [12:47] techrights-bot "It will become possible to submit kernel patches without touching an email client" https://lwn.net/Articles/840632/ will #linuxfoundation outsource #linux to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware prison? http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/ [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some unlikely 2021 predictions [LWN.net] [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsofts New Mole Inside Linux Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsofts Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights [12:48] techrights-bot The incredibly corrupt #linuxfoundation is a misnomer because it works more for #microsoft than it works for #linux and one just needs to see where it directs it financial resources http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [12:50] techrights-bot "SEGGERs entire portfolio of J-Link software is now available for #Linux on ARM, for both 32-bit and 64-bit platforms." https://www.embedded-computing.com/news/seggers-complete-j-link-software-now-available-for-linux-on-arm [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.embedded-computing.com | SEGGER's Complete J-Link Software Now Available for Linux on ARM [12:52] techrights-bot Coming in #glibc 2.33: Reloadable nsswitch.conf https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/01/15/coming-in-glibc-2-33-reloadable-nsswitch-conf/ [12:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Coming in glibc 2.33: Reloadable nsswitch.conf - Red Hat Developer [12:55] techrights-bot Kernel: Linux 5.11, #TuxMake , #Linux 5.12, and #NVIDIA "Nouveau" Driver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146507 [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 5.11, TuxMake, Linux 5.12, and NVIDIA "Nouveau" Driver | Tux Machines [12:58] techrights-bot "The board is passively cooled by its enclosure acting as a heatsink, and ships with Linux by default, although were not being told which distribution, possibly Ubuntu 20.04." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/13/zimaboard-intel-apollo-lake-sbc-and-micro-server/ [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | ZimaBoard Intel Apollo Lake SBC and micro server goes for $69.99 and up (Crowdfunding) [12:59] techrights-bot "Inkplate 10 also supports Peripheral Mode which allows you to control the display from another board such as #RaspberryPi or #Arduino via commands sent over a UART or USB connection." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/15/inkplate-10-esp32-e-paper-display-offers-faster-refresh-rates/ [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Inkplate 10 ESP32 e-Paper display offers faster refresh rates (Crowdfunding) ● Jan 15 [13:01] techrights-bot #Algolia Search in #Jekyll https://www.unixtutorial.org/jekyll-algolia-search/ #freesw #cms [13:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixtutorial.org | Algolia Search in Jekyll [13:03] *DVulgaris has quit (Quit: Catch you later.) [13:04] techrights-bot #Mozilla : #RustLang , #Socorro , and Healthier #Internet (Openwashing) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146508 [13:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Rust, Socorro, and 'Healthier' Internet (Openwashing) | Tux Machines [13:05] psydroid Partnering with Microsoft is like making a deal with an alligator not to be eaten by it [13:06] vZS1_2 Microsoft "Partner" = "prisoner" [13:06] schestowitz "I'm friend with bully ->" [13:06] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [13:06] vZS1_2 Git already uses Azure pipelines for its development, so they've infiltrated quite deep. [13:07] vZS1_2 Safe to say Linus is also a MSFT drone now [13:07] techrights-bot The State of #VirtualReality on #Linux https://boilingsteam.com/the-state-of-virtual-reality-on-linux/ [13:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | The State of Virtual Reality on Linux - Boiling Steam [13:08] techrights-bot Mozilla's post doesn't go FAR ENOUGH! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oLX2fTo6s #mozilla #firefox #censorship #MitchellBaker [13:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla's post doesn't go FAR ENOUGH! - YouTube [13:08] vZS1_2 Note how Linus refused to update the GPL version of Linux from v2 to v3. [13:13] techrights-bot #Proton 5.13-5 is now up bringing in some of the experimental changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146498#comment-27813 #gnu #linux [13:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proton 5.13-5 Fixes World Sounds in Cyberpunk 2077, Improves Fallout 76 and More | Tux Machines [13:13] schestowitz [13:06] Git already uses Azure pipelines for its development, so they've infiltrated quite deep. [13:13] schestowitz Git project itself?! [13:13] schestowitz link? [13:13] vZS1_2 Yeah [13:14] schestowitz oh, no [13:14] schestowitz github as infiltration vector [13:14] schestowitz into git itself [13:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [13:15] techrights-bot "Proton 5 now ships with the Steam for Linux client, and it introduces improved performance, support for DX12 and much more." https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2021/01/15/valve-is-planning-something-special-for-linux-gaming-in-2021/ [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Valve Is Planning Something Special For Linux Gaming In 2021 [13:15] schestowitz yay, finally solved the irc issue [13:15] schestowitz too long a message [13:16] vZS1_2 >schestowitz link? [13:16] vZS1_2 Look in git/ci/. Just grep for "azure". [13:16] schestowitz Did they add support for it? [13:16] schestowitz or does that come into the core? [13:16] schestowitz I know some Microsoft shill now 'develop' git [13:16] vZS1_2 That's the CI they use. [13:16] schestowitz from shithub [13:16] schestowitz but it's not developed on Microsoft servers [13:17] vZS1_2 It's not a part of git itslef but git development uses Azure. [13:17] vZS1_2 It's in the repo. They can't hide it. [13:17] schestowitz all of them? [13:17] schestowitz or just some? [13:17] vZS1_2 The git CI pipeline uses Azure for the upstream. [13:17] vZS1_2 So that would be all of them [13:18] schestowitz but it's not eventually stored there [13:18] vZS1_2 Directly or indirectly, doesn't matter. [13:18] schestowitz it does kind of matter [13:18] schestowitz when they release git they give a github URL [13:18] schestowitz i.e. Microsoft [13:18] schestowitz that's an old issue [13:18] vZS1_2 I'm just saying that Git has a dependency on Azure now for its CI. [13:18] schestowitz and that some of them were bought by Microsoft as part of the attack on Git [13:19] vZS1_2 It's been like this for a while. [13:19] schestowitz yeah [13:19] vZS1_2 But most people don't actually look at source code of the tools they use [13:19] schestowitz I am aware [13:19] schestowitz tell me when they want to put Linux AND git themselves on shithub [13:20] vZS1_2 It's worse than being on GitHub [13:20] vZS1_2 Because GitHub can be used as a pull-only mirror [13:20] vZS1_2 Git has a _dependency_ on Azure. [13:20] vZS1_2 No Azure, Git CI breaks. [13:20] vZS1_2 That's the point I'm trying to get across [13:21] techrights-bot I'm told (and am being shown) that #microsoft is increasingly taking over #git itself, having taken over the attack on Git (E.E.E.), known as #github #azure (surveillance) is now plugged into Git as CI Maybe time to dump Git soon? [13:21] vZS1_2 Nobody is going to dump Git [13:21] vZS1_2 That's just ridiculous [13:22] schestowitz they said the same re svn and cvs [13:22] schestowitz things always change [13:22] schestowitz maybe every decade or so [13:22] vZS1_2 Yeah but not this quickly [13:22] schestowitz something more exciting and light will turn up [13:22] schestowitz some will adopt it for "difference" [13:22] schestowitz and more will follow [13:22] schestowitz BSDs maybe [13:22] vZS1_2 This has long-term repurcussions [13:22] vZS1_2 Is what I'm trying to say here [13:23] vZS1_2 Because the world will stay on Git for a good while [13:23] vZS1_2 Otherwise it wouldn't be such a big deal [13:23] vZS1_2 It would be like saying GCC has a _dependency_ on Azure for CI. [13:23] techrights-bot Games: #BomberCrew , #PrisonArchitect #GoingGreen and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146509 #GNU #Linux [13:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Bomber Crew, Going Green and More | Tux Machines [13:23] vZS1_2 Nobody will dump GCC any time soon. [13:24] schestowitz they want to dump RMS [13:24] schestowitz first E [13:24] schestowitz then second [13:24] schestowitz next, the last E, GCC becomes integrated into ShiteHub and something like Azure [13:24] schestowitz "Microsoft loves GNU" [13:25] vZS1_2 Which is why you need to raise awareness [13:25] vZS1_2 Because these are tools that are central to everybody. They won't go away. [13:25] vZS1_2 So infiltrating them is a big deal. [13:26] schestowitz the idea is to attack them, if you're Microsoft [13:26] schestowitz put people off [13:26] schestowitz don't need to stay with tthem [13:26] schestowitz take over, destory, move on [13:26] schestowitz Novell, Yahoo!, Nokia... [13:26] vZS1_2 Yeah. [13:26] schestowitz that's how Microsoft tries to maintain dominance in s/w [13:26] schestowitz and IBM helps them sometimes [13:27] vZS1_2 Which is why I'm saying that Linus is a MSFT drone [13:27] vZS1_2 Even if he doesn't want to admit it himself [13:28] vZS1_2 Slyly putting in more dependencies onto MSFT [13:28] techrights-bot Wow. #JUVE became a #lobbying site (UPC) and part-time SPAM site. Moments ago: "Venner Shipley strengthens biotech practice with Withers & Rogers hire" (pure spam, marketing, non-news) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [13:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [13:28] schestowitz [12:48] The incredibly corrupt #linuxfoundation is a misnomer because it works more for #microsoft than it works for #linux and one just needs to see where it directs it financial resources http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [13:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [13:29] vZS1_2 CI is one of the most important parts of development. So the fact that Git uses Azure for CI is bad news. [13:29] schestowitz vZS1_2: I'd blame ipfs for the BT throttling if I only set up ipfs this month [13:29] schestowitz but it's 2 months later [13:29] schestowitz very odd, surely a BT capacity crisis or policy change [13:29] schestowitz will give it 2 more days and escalate again Monday if it does not improve [13:29] schestowitz rinse, repeat [13:30] schestowitz still uploading a video from 4 hours ago [13:30] schestowitz 15mb/hour [13:30] vZS1_2 You have the right as a paying customer. [13:31] vZS1_2 You should have 1Mb/s, as a minimum, for upload. [13:32] schestowitz They keep saying "we don't guarantee upload speeds" [13:32] schestowitz I noticed that download speeds too have slown down [13:32] vZS1_2 Come March, they can't say that anymore. :) [13:32] schestowitz but when they want to, like yesterday, suddenly no caps [13:32] vZS1_2 Ofcom REGULATIONS. [13:34] vZS1_2 They rate-limit depending on traffic patterns. [13:34] techrights-bot "SmartThings" means #surveillance and #espionage 'things' (like #police or spies in some other countries controlling 'your' vehicles'. Laura Tucker keeps promoting spying stuff, sometimes paid-for fluff https://www.maketecheasier.com/auto-tech-moving-forward-samsung-smartthings-more/ [13:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Auto Tech Moving Forward with Samsung, SmartThings, and More - Make Tech Easier [13:34] vZS1_2 All ISPs do this. [13:34] vZS1_2 Some take it further than others. Which is why BT lost its market dominance. [13:35] vZS1_2 Virgin, TalkTalk, etc. took over. [13:35] vZS1_2 Now there are even newer providers that focus on smaller areas. [13:36] vZS1_2 We have quite a few here. [13:36] vZS1_2 Virgin, BT, TalkTalk, Plusnet, O2. [13:36] vZS1_2 Many more that I forgot [13:36] techrights-bot Stripped-down #RaspberryPi 3B+ SBC powers YARH.IO Micro 2 DIY handheld PC https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/14/stripped-down-raspberry-pi-3b-sbc-powers-yarh-io-micro-2-diy-handheld-pc/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [13:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Stripped-down Raspberry Pi 3B+ SBC powers YARH.IO Micro 2 DIY handheld PC [13:37] vZS1_2 Back to what I was saying earlier, though. Git's CI has relatively new dependencies like Docker and Azure CI. [13:38] techrights-bot #cbs sites #zdnet and #techrepublic are now extended #marketing agencies for the #microsoft -controlled 'linux' foundation and I'm 99% sure they get paid for this [13:39] schestowitz Docker is as bad? [13:39] vZS1_2 Not really. I wouldn't say Docker is bad. [13:40] vZS1_2 Also, Git CI uses Ubuntu containers. [13:40] schestowitz need to know the capacity to which the Microsoft PRISM servers are used [13:40] schestowitz maybe they can be bypassed [13:40] schestowitz maybe added by some salaried MS staff [13:40] schestowitz and used just by them [13:41] vZS1_2 You'd have thought Git CI would use something lighter like Apline. [13:41] schestowitz https://latesthackingnews.com/2021/01/03/new-golang-worm-targets-windows-and-linux-systems-to-mine-monero/ [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latesthackingnews.com | New Golang Worm Targets Windows And Linux Systems To Mine Monero [13:41] schestowitz Media moles exist too [13:42] vZS1_2 They run various mix-and-match containers. [13:42] vZS1_2 Not just 1 uniform image [13:42] techrights-bot Current status of #EasyOS on the Pi4 https://bkhome.org/news/202101/current-status-of-easyos-on-the-pi4.html #Raspi #gnu #linux [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Current status of EasyOS on the Pi4 [13:42] vZS1_2 Also, there's musl in the Git CI. [13:43] vZS1_2 A skeptic could say they might be trying to reduce dependencies on GNU software. [13:43] schestowitz ubuntu is better known than alpine or gentoo [13:43] schestowitz Canonical got a bunch of volunteers too, for a decade, to boost that brand [13:43] schestowitz is git glv2? [13:44] schestowitz gpl [13:44] vZS1_2 Yep [13:45] psydroid Are there any alternative git clients? [13:46] psydroid A friend of mine told me to study the git data structures, maybe he was prescient as to what was coming [13:46] vZS1_2 What do you mean by "alternative git clients"? [13:47] vZS1_2 Git comes packaed as a single binary. I just use the CLI for Git. No other "client" on top of that. [13:47] vZS1_2 which git [13:47] vZS1_2 "/usr/bin/git" [13:48] vZS1_2 s/packaed/packaged/ [13:48] schestowitz maybe wrappers [13:48] schestowitz not even 'suites' like shithub [13:48] psydroid Different codebases to the software available from git-scm.com [13:49] schestowitz or github with a webserver [13:49] vZS1_2 There are mirrors for the source code [13:49] vZS1_2 What I was saying is that the CI they use is Azure. So when you send a patch, even if you don't interact with Azure in any way, that patch gets tested via Azure. [13:50] techrights-bot Article by Michael Larabel about #proton release and #valve needs to #deletegithub to avoid being 'slave' of #microsoft #proprietarySoftware traps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146498#comment-27815 [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proton 5.13-5 Fixes World Sounds in Cyberpunk 2077, Improves Fallout 76 and More | Tux Machines [13:50] vZS1_2 I wouldn't hold my breath for businesses leaving ShitHub any time soon. It's a cost-saving strategy, for them. [13:51] vZS1_2 Saves costs in many ways. [13:51] psydroid I thought what you were saying was that there was a hardcoded dependency on Azure servers in the git source code [13:51] vZS1_2 Nope. It's the CI, not the core of Git itself. [13:52] vZS1_2 Just wanting to highlight MSFT infiltration. [13:52] schestowitz that's why I wanted clarity [13:53] schestowitz it's infiltrated already [13:53] schestowitz the devs and staff [13:53] psydroid But even then it's more of the same undesired and unnecessary injection of dependencies on Microsoft infrastructure [13:53] schestowitz and github links (proprietary, monopoly) in git release emails [13:53] schestowitz for years now [13:53] psydroid Ton Roosendaal saw it coming from afar [13:53] vZS1_2 >psydroid But even then it's more of the same undesired and unnecessary injection of [13:54] schestowitz it's like git openly advertises the attack on git [13:54] vZS1_2 That's pretty much the main issue here [13:54] schestowitz or rather promotes the thing looking to undermine git [13:54] vZS1_2 ShitHub is probably going to get merged into Azure in the coming years. [13:55] vZS1_2 They failed to get as many people as they wanted onto Azure [13:55] vZS1_2 So they bought ShitHub instead [13:55] vZS1_2 This is MSFT MO. [13:55] vZS1_2 Just buy the competition [13:57] vZS1_2 They want to buy Linux and Git as well. Looks like they're succeeding. [13:57] techrights-bot #CarbonPlayer desktop media player http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146510 #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware atrap [13:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Carbon Player desktop media player | Tux Machines [13:58] vZS1_2 Seems like IBM and MSFT are locked in battle for who gets to dictate the future of Linux. [13:58] psydroid Parasites that keep looking for new hosts for their own survival [13:59] vZS1_2 Indeed. This is parasitic behaviour. ● Jan 15 [14:00] schestowitz yup [14:00] schestowitz so we need to call them out [14:00] schestowitz they cannot make some sorts of move if that leads to an exodus [14:00] schestowitz like many centos replacements [14:00] schestowitz or github alternatives [14:00] vZS1_2 Yeah. [14:00] vZS1_2 Fortunately for us, this is still all GPL. [14:00] schestowitz they build up the lock-in [14:00] schestowitz the raise the exit barriers [14:01] schestowitz to frighten companies that wish to remove the shackles [14:01] schestowitz OOXML before that [14:01] schestowitz UEFI 'secure boot' [14:01] schestowitz facilitated by a redhat troll who's now lurking in IRC [14:01] schestowitz looking for dirt to discredit us with [14:01] schestowitz git can also be forked [14:01] schestowitz libreoffice exists [14:02] schestowitz oracle could not kill mysql either [14:02] schestowitz because mariadb was born [14:02] schestowitz and on bsd camp we had psql already [14:02] schestowitz those alternatives, or variants, make it hard to kill the competition [14:02] schestowitz but the diversity matters [14:02] schestowitz not all this fake 'diversity' [14:02] vZS1_2 It's their propaganda that needs pulling through the mud. [14:02] schestowitz technical diversity [14:03] schestowitz too many projects that cannot be easily destroyed in one fell swoop with "M&A" [14:03] psydroid Whenever I mention barriers to exit, people seem not to (want to) understand [14:03] psydroid https://www.eweek.com/it-management/technologys-barriers-to-exit [14:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Technologys Barriers to Exit [14:03] schestowitz their strategy is expensive [14:03] schestowitz they bought skype [14:03] schestowitz 8 billion, iirc [14:03] schestowitz remove or screwed/skewered linux support [14:03] schestowitz then brought it 'back', almost... barely [14:03] vZS1_2 Don't forget the money they make from things like "vaccines". [14:03] schestowitz "microsoft loves linux!" [14:03] vZS1_2 It goes beyond I.T.. [14:04] psydroid even though Sun was a proprietary company too, they made it relatively easy to exit from Solaris to Linux [14:04] schestowitz [07:03] x https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/epic-cerner-and-other-health-it-heavy-hitters-join-forces-vaccine-credential-initiative [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.healthcareitnews.com | Epic, Cerner and other health IT heavy hitters join forces for Vaccine Credential Initiative | Healthcare IT News [14:04] schestowitz [03:25] schestowitz: https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/microsoft-oracle-salesforce-join-effort-to-develop-covid-19-vaccination-digital-passport [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbusiness.com | Microsoft, Oracle, Salesforce join effort to develop COVID-19 vaccination digital passport | Fox Business [14:04] schestowitz disgursting [14:04] psydroid Microsoft is the opposite of this [14:04] schestowitz bill was always about money [14:04] schestowitz first his failed company [14:04] schestowitz bankrupt [14:04] schestowitz then the copyright (images/stock) one [14:04] schestowitz then Microsoft [14:04] schestowitz he's no tech [14:04] schestowitz just a man who bribes then media to build up a Musk-like CULT [14:05] vZS1_2 Musk built a Gates-like CULT, more like. [14:05] schestowitz he can't even hire geeks [14:05] schestowitz they just buy companies [14:05] schestowitz then rebrand them [14:05] schestowitz much of MS Office is bought companues [14:06] schestowitz "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing." [14:06] schestowitz --Arno Edelmann, Microsoft's European business security product manager [14:06] schestowitz Anyone still remembers OneCare? [14:06] schestowitz Yes, pronounced wanker... [14:06] schestowitz Many people lost sight of how many dead Microsoft products there arre [14:06] schestowitz they get money from the Pentagon budget and taxpayers' loans [14:07] schestowitz 7.8 TRILLION DOLLAR in MOAR loans under Trump [14:07] vZS1_2 I was reading that the EU is putting pressure on members to reject the Russian vaccine. [14:07] schestowitz in less than 4 years! [14:07] schestowitz Microsoft employees are hungry and homeless http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/ [14:07] vZS1_2 Even though the Russian vaccine is more credible than Pfizer's product. [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights [14:07] schestowitz vZS1_2: politics [14:07] schestowitz hegemony [14:07] schestowitz +bribes [14:07] vZS1_2 Yeah [14:07] schestowitz +dirt campaigns [14:07] vZS1_2 Gates bribes [14:07] schestowitz facilitated by back doors [14:08] schestowitz "bad politicians" [14:08] vZS1_2 Buffet bribes [14:08] schestowitz and 'EUropean' media bribed by Gates, e.g. EURActiv [14:08] schestowitz marketing wrapped up as 'news' [14:08] schestowitz they need to kick out those oligarchs [14:08] schestowitz but won't [14:08] schestowitz because the regulators are captured already [14:08] schestowitz we need more leaks [14:08] schestowitz EPO leaks have helped a lot [14:09] vZS1_2 The Russian vaccine is the only trial I am satisfied with. I'm not convinced by any of the others. [14:09] vZS1_2 Lack of transparency. [14:10] vZS1_2 They did a 40,000+ trial for Sputnik V in December. Results should be out relatively soon. [14:10] vZS1_2 And it costs a lot less than the Pfizer "vaccine". [14:12] techrights-bot Raspberry Pi: #EasyOS , #YARHIO , Proprietary Blobs and Inkplate http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146512 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: EasyOS, YARH.IO, Proprietary Blobs and Inkplate | Tux Machines [14:12] schestowitz vZS1_2: I rewrite their vaccine [14:12] schestowitz as clinical trial [14:13] schestowitz as a hashtag even [14:13] schestowitz just to remind people what this is [14:13] schestowitz Gates-funded media like BBC keep using the V word like it's on par with measles and polio or flu vaccines [14:13] schestowitz despite lack of actual evidence (as yet) [14:13] schestowitz BTW [14:13] schestowitz in case you did not hear in social control media [14:13] schestowitz a colleague of mine got hospitalised with COVID last night [14:14] schestowitz ambulance afaik [14:14] vZS1_2 The PR for Sputnik V clearly uses the word "trial" over and over again. Whereas for the Pfizer trials, they make the spin seem like they've got a fully tested vaccine already. [14:14] schestowitz I had to cover him, he's only my age, apparently COVID positive for at least 2 weeks now [14:14] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:14] schestowitz vZS1_2: as if, IF ONLY we could make enough of it fast, and YOU BUY IT, problem solved [14:14] schestowitz the COVID virus spreads like 10-100 times faster than this vaccine does [14:15] schestowitz even for one "dose" (repeat clients) [14:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [14:15] schestowitz [22:47] schestowitz: Moderna was bragging that as soon as they had the Coronavirus genome from China, they developed this thing in "two days". [14:15] schestowitz He now says it's here to stay [14:15] schestowitz buy doses for decades to come, make Bill and chums trillionaires [14:16] schestowitz Gates: "twenty to one return" [14:16] schestowitz it was always about money to him [14:17] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/gates-and-covid/ [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When it Comes to Bill Gates and Vaccination, Critics Need to Focus on Monopoly and Profits at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [14:17] schestowitz trying to find the video where Gates says it out loud on TV [14:17] vZS1_2 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04530396 [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clinical Trial of Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of Gam-COVID-Vac Vaccine Against COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov [14:18] vZS1_2 We should have the trial results for Sputnik V by the 1st of May 2021. [14:19] schestowitz it's somewhere around http://techrights.org/category/bill-gates/page/2/ [14:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates | Techrights - Part 2 [14:19] schestowitz I posted that video twice even [14:19] schestowitz vZS1_2: i read about a mini study on western vaccines [14:19] schestowitz 20 people [14:19] schestowitz I mentioned it here [14:19] schestowitz digital giggle [14:19] schestowitz 20 people [14:19] schestowitz no specificity re age groups [14:20] schestowitz so "grandma took vaccine, feels happy" stories become: [14:20] schestowitz "we administered it to half a classroom, no body died" [14:20] schestowitz "my uncle smoke and lived to be 85" [14:20] schestowitz thank you for smoking! [14:20] schestowitz [14:20] "we administered it to half a classroom, no body died" [14:21] schestowitz nobody died... YET [14:21] schestowitz (been a week ;-) ) [14:21] schestowitz people aren't told critical skills [14:21] schestowitz and media encourages this stupidity [14:22] schestowitz I don't want to do articles about vaccination because the monopolies weaponise the term "anitvaxx" [14:22] schestowitz against any critic [14:22] psydroid that means it's safe to use [14:22] vZS1_2 We don't really even need articles. [14:22] vZS1_2 Just sharing some links and discussions is enough [14:23] schestowitz https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/01/13/rfk-jr-doesnt-like-being-called-antivacine-and-antimask/ [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-respectfulinsolence.com | RFK Jr. doesn't like being called antivacine and antimask - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [14:23] schestowitz this is 2 days old [14:23] schestowitz TV Licensing issuing threats now [14:23] schestowitz for not responding to their nonsense letters [14:24] schestowitz do I need to spend 20 years replying the same way over and over again? [14:27] vZS1_2 The problem we have is [14:27] schestowitz took me 2 minutes just not to do the "notv" thing [14:27] vZS1_2 "I heard on BBC that the vaccine works. Better get it ASAP." [14:27] schestowitz it used to take one minute [14:27] schestowitz they threaten to come here [14:27] schestowitz it's faster to fill out this form than to do to the door [14:27] schestowitz *go to [14:27] schestowitz vZS1_2: self-fulfilling prophecy [14:27] schestowitz "many people take it" [14:28] schestowitz "so it must be good" [14:28] schestowitz "many people use Windows" [14:28] schestowitz "Microsoft made Bill rich" [14:28] schestowitz "he must be smart" [14:28] schestowitz "Windows must be the best" [14:28] schestowitz "most popular" [14:28] schestowitz (not widely used) [14:28] schestowitz most people eat bread [14:28] schestowitz so it's the best food [14:28] schestowitz blash blah [14:28] schestowitz BBC [14:28] schestowitz marketing company [14:28] schestowitz funded by taxpayers [14:28] schestowitz for Gates grifting [14:29] vZS1_2 Yep [14:29] schestowitz btw, Guardian does the same with and for Bill [14:29] schestowitz it is grotesque [14:29] schestowitz And then they ask me for money [14:29] schestowitz like NPR does [14:29] vZS1_2 The guardian is less of a problem than the BBC [14:29] schestowitz "listener-supported" [14:29] schestowitz to the tune of a millionth of what "uncle bill{" gives [14:29] schestowitz then NPR publicily mocks Gates critics [14:29] schestowitz "public service" [14:30] schestowitz vZS1_2: no the guardian is worse [14:30] schestowitz because it pretends to be "left" [14:30] schestowitz or "progressive" [14:30] *inky (inky@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/norayr) has joined #techrights [14:30] schestowitz to attract and then mislead what's left of rational and compassionate people [14:30] vZS1_2 Guardian is the hipster outlet [14:30] schestowitz then telling those people some oligarchs "aren't so bad" [14:30] schestowitz Ford [14:30] schestowitz Rockefeller [14:30] schestowitz Gates [14:30] schestowitz all pay the 'guardian' [14:30] schestowitz the "good" oligarchs [14:31] schestowitz maybe it's risky for them to also take Kocj money [14:31] schestowitz Koch [14:31] schestowitz the way TechDirt/Masnick did [14:31] schestowitz because 'guardian' likes it when people think it is "green" [14:31] schestowitz and it's constantly greenwashing Gates [14:31] schestowitz who invests in companies like SHell [14:31] schestowitz so both BBC and 'guardian' need shunning [14:33] vZS1_2 Btw, before I head off: there was a relatively recent shutdown of Google Clown Print [14:33] vZS1_2 I think ~20 Dec 2020 [14:33] vZS1_2 I remember the PR about how this was going to "revolutionise" printing. [14:34] vZS1_2 I guess Google Clown Print turned into vapour. [14:35] vZS1_2 I found this on a post-it under my desk. [14:35] vZS1_2 I forgot to bring it up [14:39] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146513 [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:39] vZS1_2 psydroid But even then it's more of the same undesired and unnecessary injection of [14:39] vZS1_2 woops [14:39] vZS1_2 wrong buffer [14:39] vZS1_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Print [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Google Cloud Print - Wikipedia [14:40] vZS1_2 testpsydroid But even then it's more of the same undesired and unnecessary injection of [14:40] vZS1_2 gdi [14:40] vZS1_2 There we go. [14:40] vZS1_2 Cold hands. [14:41] psydroid I never understood what Google Cloud Print was about and now it doesn't exist anymore anyway [14:42] vZS1_2 It was for people that couldn't be bothered to configure their network printer [14:42] vZS1_2 Or incapable of doing so [14:42] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:44] vZS1_2 Back in early Google Cloud Print days (2010), setting up a printer for GNU/Linux was a non-trivial task for most. [14:45] vZS1_2 Even on Windows, with all the different UIs, it was a nightmare for many. [14:45] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [14:46] vZS1_2 And, it was another "feature" for Google Chrome browser. [14:46] schestowitz [14:34] I guess Google Clown Print turned into vapour. [14:46] schestowitz something clown [14:46] schestowitz it'll always take over [14:46] schestowitz clowns are no fad [14:47] schestowitz browser as an OS [14:47] schestowitz just ignore all the bgentoo and devices drivers and stuff [14:47] schestowitz and don't use it where there's no wifi [14:47] vZS1_2 lol [14:47] schestowitz you don't need an ethernet port, either [14:47] schestowitz or CD ROM [14:48] schestowitz that might help you replace the browserOS [14:48] vZS1_2 Tell that to the govs. [14:48] vZS1_2 They've taken the bait hook line and sinker. [14:48] vZS1_2 Several schools bought hundreds of Chromebooks [14:48] schestowitz only terrorists install their own OS [14:48] schestowitz today SO [14:48] schestowitz tomorrow IED [14:48] schestowitz today OS [14:49] schestowitz You have enough "choice" already [14:49] schestowitz all GAFAM [14:49] schestowitz all PRISM [14:49] schestowitz all US [14:53] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:54] techrights-bot Links 15/1/2021: #GStreamer 1.18.3 and #Proton 5.13-5 http://techrights.org/2021/01/15/proton-5-13-5/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/1/2021: GStreamer 1.18.3 and Proton 5.13-5 | Techrights [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:57] psydroid FATA MORGANA = Facebook Apple Tencent Alibaba Microsoft Oracle (Republican) Google Amazon Netflix (America) ● Jan 15 [15:04] schestowitz lol [15:04] schestowitz psydroid: I need your help [15:05] schestowitz input [15:05] schestowitz on next inteLeak [15:05] schestowitz I recorded it 5 hours ago [15:05] schestowitz took that long to upload the video [15:05] schestowitz and BT have 30-minute waiting time on the support line, so maybe no fix to it unless next week, but I digress [15:05] schestowitz psydroid: any takes on accessibility at Intel? [15:05] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:06] schestowitz InteLeaks Part XV: Intel is Blind to Blind and Colour-Blind People [15:14] psydroid schestowitz, not really anything beyond what you already mentioned in your last video, but I can give my input on the new article and video [15:15] psydroid what I do think is harmful is to put more importance into sticking with certain proprietary tools over accommodating your actual employees and customers [15:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [15:16] *inky (~inky@141.136.78.3) has joined #techrights [15:16] psydroid I worked at several companies that were so tied into the Wintel paradigm that they just couldn't see a better way of doing things if it hit them in the face [15:18] psydroid and dealing with these proprietary tools as a free software person can and does take its toll on you [15:18] schestowitz cheers, hang on [15:18] schestowitz can I quote the above btw? [15:18] schestowitz am drafting it still [15:18] schestowitz nearly there now [15:19] psydroid sure, maybe I should have been a bit more careful and/or polite with my words, but it looks OK to me [15:19] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ljwqugooccinbszd) has joined #techrights [15:21] schestowitz hang on [15:21] psydroid I'm not one to beat about the bush, though [15:25] schestowitz almsot tgere... [15:25] schestowitz it will have typos for sure [15:26] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/01/15/accessibility-at-intel/ [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XV: Intel is Blind to Blind and Colour-Blind People | Techrights [15:26] schestowitz beats them over the head re priorities [15:26] schestowitz pls read through... [15:26] schestowitz I can add more sentences [15:26] psydroid I am going to do so now [15:32] psydroid btw, Intel tried to hire me for a job at the Data Centre Group from my job at an Oracle/Microsoft data-centric company [15:33] schestowitz i found some typos already [15:33] psydroid it was always Oracle and SQL Server on Windows that were causing us problems [15:34] schestowitz same here [15:34] schestowitz crashes [15:34] schestowitz licences causing shutdowns [15:34] schestowitz at the midst of big jobs [15:34] schestowitz but those are rare [15:34] schestowitz like 1% of the machines [15:35] psydroid "coluor blindness" [15:38] schestowitz yeah, refresh page [15:38] schestowitz I made many fixes [15:38] schestowitz like 10 :s [15:40] techrights-bot [15:40] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146516 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:41] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XV: #Intel is #Blind to Blind and Colour-Blind People http://techrights.org/2021/01/15/accessibility-at-intel/ #accessibility #leaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [15:43] schestowitz yuck, planet fedora https://iranzo.github.io/blog/2021/01/14/be-lazy-automate-github-actions-for-static-blogging/ [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iranzo.github.io | Be lazy, automate: GitHub actions for staticblogging [15:43] schestowitz be lazy, outsource to Microsoft [15:43] schestowitz and proprietary software [15:44] techrights-bot #nature relaying Chinese regime agenda https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79310-1 [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | Facial recognition technology can expose political orientation from naturalistic facial images | Scientific Reports [15:45] psydroid Intel is also trying to parasitise on other institutions and companies, as last week someone in another channel mentioned the company being involved with quantum computing without being aware it is actually universities and academics doing most of the work [15:46] techrights-bot #crispr monopolists who pursue #patent #monopolies on life and nature get 'happy stories' told about their 'innovation' (messing around with what already existed for millions of years) https://www.salon.com/2021/01/13/dna-hard-drives-scientists-hide-a-coded-digital-message-in-bacterial-dna/ [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DNA hard drives? Scientists hide a coded digital message in bacterial DNA | Salon.com [15:48] techrights-bot Very disapponting, planet #fedora ... yeah, "be lazy" ... outsource to #Microsoft (and #proprietarysoftware traps of the #monopoly ) https://iranzo.github.io/blog/2021/01/14/be-lazy-automate-github-actions-for-static-blogging/ also see http://techrights.org/2020/06/19/microsoft-hosted-fedora/ [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2 Years After Microsoft Hijacked GitHub for Monopoly Fedora Still Has Well Over 100 Projects in Microsofts GitHub (Not Even Counting Red Hats and Systemd) | Techrights [15:48] DaemonFC[m] https://hispanicnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/waukegan-mayor-sam-cunningham-in-illinois-facing-criminal-investigation-for-sexual-assault-and-harassment/ [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hispanicnewsnetwork.wordpress.com | Waukegan Mayor Sam Cunningham In Illinois Facing Criminal Investigation For Sexual Assault And Harassment | Hispanicnewsnetwork's Blog [15:48] DaemonFC[m] I just got back from voting for the other guy. [15:49] DaemonFC[m] Waukegan Police had an officer assisting ICE in violation of state law, and when the investigation started last year, that officer resigned and apparently was not replaced at that position. [15:49] schestowitz psydroid: interesting, I thought only IBM did this [15:50] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Every single year he talks about two things. A casino that's never going to happen, and several miles of contaminated lake front that nobody wants to develop or it would have happened. [15:51] schestowitz casino? [15:51] schestowitz you already have wall streets [15:51] DaemonFC[m] Now, those are also very good ways for the economy and taxes to recover after the Coronavirus, don'tcha know. [15:51] schestowitz with odds stacked up in favour of owners of the country [15:51] schestowitz who inside-trade and tax everything there [15:52] DaemonFC[m] The obvious thing to do right now is budget cutting because it's obvious that no help from the feds is coming, the state is cutting Local Government Grants, and tax hikes will hurt the economy more. [15:52] techrights-bot #nature relaying Chinese regime agenda https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79310-1 [15:52] DaemonFC[m] Illinois just passed a 618 page Police Reform bill. [15:52] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [15:53] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19880431 [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 21.04 To Expand The Use Of Phased Package Updates - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-21.04-Phased-Updates #Phoronix #GNU #Linux [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Ubuntu 21.04 To Expand The Use Of Phased Package Updates - Phoronix [15:53] DaemonFC[m] Among other things it ends cash bail (although judges can remand a defendant facing violent felony charges), and requires all police in the state to wear body cameras, and ends collective bargaining with police unions on any topic but wages. [15:53] schestowitz "The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trumps time in office." [15:53] schestowitz https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump [15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That Itll Weigh Down the Economy for Years ProPublica [15:54] schestowitz yesterday [15:54] DaemonFC[m] The police unions were understandably pissed and tried to stop it, which is why it was introduced, passed, and signed within 2 days. [15:54] schestowitz so, how much richer did the American super-rich get in the past 4 years? [15:54] DaemonFC[m] It also ends "prison gerrymandering". [15:54] DaemonFC[m] Under the new state law, prisoners will be counted in a future Census based on their last address before going to prison. [15:55] DaemonFC[m] Which is a clever way to take some representation away from Republicans. [15:55] DaemonFC[m] If you have a prison with 20,000-30,000 prisoners there in a county it can really skew the maps. [15:56] DaemonFC[m] It also provides that if someone has less than 4 months remaining on a sentence, that they have to be released to serve the rest of it on probation. [15:56] CrystalMath schestowitz: in the past year, a lot [15:56] CrystalMath thanks to lockdowns [15:56] DaemonFC[m] The state's looking to cut the budget and give Democrats more seats in government in a police reform bill, but it does make a lot of changes that will make the police more accountable. [15:57] DaemonFC[m] Such as ending qualified immunity. [15:57] techrights-bot #swpats #deletegithub #HarfBuzz #monopoly #FreeType https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-34-FreeType-HarfBuzz [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 34 Planning For Better Font Rendering By Enabling HarfBuzz In FreeType - Phoronix [15:57] DaemonFC[m] It makes cops personally liable for misconduct. It also turns police chokeholds into a crime. [15:57] CrystalMath i hate the font rendering in freetype past 2.8.3 [15:57] CrystalMath i have my own fork [15:57] CrystalMath which i locally call gutentype [15:57] CrystalMath it has only one change to the code, and i keep it up to date [15:58] DaemonFC[m] And it requires that cops who commit any felony or any from a list of specific misdemeanors be disqualified and fired immediately. [15:58] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: good [15:58] DaemonFC[m] How would this bill be controversial? [15:58] techrights-bot #Xfce 4.16 Desktop Lands in #openSUSE Tumbleweed, Download Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146511 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce 4.16 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, Download Now | Tux Machines [15:58] techrights-bot #Intel does not seem to grasp very basic concepts associated with #accessibility ; nevertheless, Intel shamelessly tries painting itself as woke and a justice warrior (policing speech while overlooking much-needed practical work) http://techrights.org/2021/01/15/accessibility-at-intel/ [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XV: Intel is Blind to Blind and Colour-Blind People | Techrights [15:59] DaemonFC[m] I don't see why we couldn't have an open debate on this other than that police unions would have gone to the public and misled them and lied to them about what was in it. [15:59] DaemonFC[m] And now it's on the law books and "deal with it". ● Jan 15 [16:00] DaemonFC[m] Oh, it also bans new purchases of military hardware for the police, of certain types. [16:00] DaemonFC[m] No more grenade launchers and tanks, for example. [16:01] DaemonFC[m] I think they passed it quickly in part because Trump could still auction off "surplus" military hardware from Iraq and Afghanistan and the legislature didn't want that finding its way into Illinois police departments. [16:01] CrystalMath the police need to understand that they must risk their lives, it's their job; they can't just kill people out of fear [16:01] DaemonFC[m] There's one Chicago suburb that had an MRAP (an IED-resistant vehicle) and they put it in city parades until they got a new mayor who was like "Nope, not doing that anymore.". [16:02] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, the new law is obviously designed to make overt hostility against the public less palatable. [16:03] *aindilis` has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:03] DaemonFC[m] Everyone fears the police. Nobody sees the police as protectors. They get pulled over and they hope it's a traffic ticket and not the last day of their life. [16:04] DaemonFC[m] But some people get away with sassing the police and living to tell about it, but certainly not black and brown people. [16:04] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [16:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [16:18] DaemonFC[m] https://www.dailyherald.com/business/20210114/four-gurnee-area-restaurants-to-defy-indoor-dining-ban- [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyherald.com | Four Gurnee-area restaurants to defy indoor dining ban [16:24] DaemonFC[m] The Lake County Health Department is like the COVID-19 Stasi. [16:26] XRevan86 https://i.imgur.com/sU1ugYS.jpg [16:54] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Jan 15 [17:06] DaemonFC[m] https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2020/06/01/hundreds-of-looters-descend-on-waukegan-businesses-rioters-attack-police-officers/ [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Hundreds of looters descend on Waukegan businesses; rioters attack police officers [17:06] DaemonFC[m] I'm still pretty angry about that. [17:07] DaemonFC[m] Nobody made them smash up businesses and take their stuff, most of which you don't even need. [17:07] DaemonFC[m] And the people doing this are total losers. [17:07] psydroid do any of you have information and perhaps links about NTFS corruption bugs going back 20-30 years ago? [17:07] DaemonFC[m] Not only do they not work and not pay taxes and not only are they living in some welfare nest somewhere, it's not even enough. [17:08] DaemonFC[m] They have to go out and ruin businesses that are hiring people and paying taxes, and vandalize public property that people who work and pay taxes are going to have to pay to replace. [17:08] DaemonFC[m] There's no part of this where Elon Musk pays his taxes or doesn't pay his taxes. [17:08] psydroid I was telling someone about my main reason for moving to GNU/Linux with ext3 and this person is basically questioning my experience and reality and laying the blame with me [17:09] DaemonFC[m] Running chkdsk /f has always been risky. [17:09] DaemonFC[m] There were corner cases where it corrupted NTFS in Windows 2000 and XP. It's never been entirely safe to try to repair a file system with it. [17:10] psydroid Windows 2000 basically ate a 2 GB partition containing my documents for university [17:10] DaemonFC[m] Ext3 will eventually hit the year 2038 bug, I guess. [17:10] psydroid this was what triggered me to get rid of it everywhere [17:10] DaemonFC[m] Not really a bug. It was pretty short sighted to make a new file system in 2000 that had a limit of 2038. [17:12] DaemonFC[m] I was running into articles talking about Microsoft beginning to back off Microsoft Account login insistence with Windows 10. [17:13] DaemonFC[m] They moved too far too fast. Not everyone wants a Microsoft Account. It's not even very useful because the only thing that doesn't work without one is the Windows Store, which people ignore anyway. [17:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [17:15] psydroid they will force it with Windows 10x, but do they really expect a different outcome now? [17:16] psydroid it's as if they are fooling themselves now [17:23] psydroid you don't even need to activate it now and the only thing you can't do is personalisation [17:23] psydroid which is not big deal at home, I suppose [17:34] schestowitz bribery is expensive [17:34] schestowitz there's not much you can do [17:34] schestowitz if you rely on bribing people to maintain market share [17:34] schestowitz case of point: IIS [17:34] DaemonFC[m] I'm wondering why it seems to be a theme in the Asian world where representative democracy isn't only not a thing, but they don't even have the window dressings of one. [17:34] schestowitz even godaddy eventually put all those parked domain on apache or similar [17:36] DaemonFC[m] North Korea, the Philippines, the People's Republic of China, Vietnam.... I mean, those are the norm. The exception is a government that has elections and where the people are at least mostly free, and with Japan it's because of a Constitution that was imposed on them at the end of the most horrendous war in history. [17:36] schestowitz [17:34] I'm wondering why it seems to be a theme in the Asian world [17:37] schestowitz Half the world [17:37] DaemonFC[m] Here in Illinois, the state has been historically plagued by public corruption for most of its existence, which got particularly bad in the mid to late 20th century. [17:37] schestowitz US=4% of the world [17:37] DaemonFC[m] Mike Madigan was a holdover from that era who is finally out of the spotlight and has no more political power than any other state representative (for now...might be in prison soon). [17:38] schestowitz Maybe the corruption just became more visible [17:38] schestowitz in the 'olden days' journalism lacked access to the same data and sources [17:39] DaemonFC[m] I'm not sure what to say about what's going on right now. I think the corruption is letting up, but the debt burden of waste, fraud, abuse, and politicians making promises the state could never pay up on is going to ruin us anyway. [17:39] schestowitz debt is a confidence thing [17:39] schestowitz the belief one can pay back [17:39] schestowitz so you hand over debt [17:39] schestowitz but... [17:39] DaemonFC[m] The Police Reform Bill has finally more or less broken the police unions as a major power in state politics. So I would call that "less corrupt" than before. [17:40] schestowitz we used to have monarchs [17:40] schestowitz in a lot of ways we used to be worse off [17:40] DaemonFC[m] But their pensions are still too large and they can negotiate for more money and benefits. [17:40] schestowitz we just need to strive for transparency, it's the last thing people in positions of power want [17:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I'm thinking that the end of Qualified Immunity in the reform bill and the Janus decision might cause cops to start backing away from the unions. [17:41] schestowitz cops are used [17:41] schestowitz and they are used by the rich [17:41] schestowitz they pick up some of the same thugs they sent abroad to kill people [17:41] schestowitz and whose mind they either ruined [17:42] DaemonFC[m] They can still get a union rep to deal with things as far as their misconduct goes with the city employment, but they're completely exposed to lawsuits from the public now in a personal capacity, and there will be nothing they can do about the body cameras recording all of it. [17:42] schestowitz or hand-picked based on obedience and desperation [17:42] schestowitz anyway, bbl [17:42] schestowitz it is kind of OT anyway... [17:42] DaemonFC[m] Do you figure that personal exposure to misconduct lawsuits will change much of anything? [17:42] DaemonFC[m] Up until now, they never had to worry. The city sells crooked cop bonds and just pays off the victims. [17:43] DaemonFC[m] I think they'll have some skin in the game if the first thing that gets taken is their bank account, possessions, and pension. [17:44] DaemonFC[m] True it won't amount to the millions the city has to pay out, but losing all their own stuff first may put them on better behavior. [17:44] techrights-bot #KaOS Linuxs First ISO Release in 2021 Adds #Linux #Kernel 5.10 LTS and #Qt 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146517 [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KaOS Linuxs First ISO Release in 2021 Adds Linux Kernel 5.10 LTS and Qt 6 | Tux Machines [17:45] DaemonFC[m] Plus it'll be kind of hilarious, right? I mean. The standard for convicting a cop of a crime is unanimous jury of 12, but to win a civil lawsuit, it's at least 7 of 12. [17:45] DaemonFC[m] It's easier to lose stuff than to be convicted of a crime. [17:46] DaemonFC[m] It had the same data and sources, but it just didn't go public with a lot of it. [17:47] DaemonFC[m] There's all kinds of evidence that Illinois' electoral votes were stolen by Kennedy. [17:47] DaemonFC[m] Nixon didn't launch lawsuits, although he could have. He just more or less let it go and came back later. [17:48] techrights-bot So-called 'journalism' in which only litigation profiteers (lawyers) are asked, but nobody else, as if no other stakeholders exist https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q47dy9rn7bcc/lawyers-mexico39s-new-damages-court-faces-rough-start [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Lawyers: Mexico's new damages court faces rough start | Managing Intellectual Property [17:49] techrights-bot "Unified is pleased to announce the PATROLL crowdsourcing contest winner, Preeti Dua, who received a cash prize of $1,500 for her prior art submissions for U.S. Patent 10,198,779." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/15/1500-awarded-for-blyncsy-prior-art [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $1,500 Awarded for Blyncsy prior art Unified Patents [17:50] techrights-bot "The '779 #patent generally relates to contact tracing of contagions and is currently being asserted against companies using this technology for the current #Covid19 #pandemic ." #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/15/1500-awarded-for-blyncsy-prior-art [17:51] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I read that "billions" of dollars worth of bitcoin are lost due to people who forgot their password. [17:51] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, let's lose our password to a bitcoin drive with $300 million dollars in it. Sure why not. Just means you'll be poor and get to work the rest of your life with no retirement like everyone else. Forgot password... [17:52] techrights-bot Dusseldorf Regional Court stands by CJEU referral of #patent licensing questions, #Nokia 's interlocutory appeal goes up to #Dusseldorf Higher Regional Court http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/01/dusseldorf-regional-court-stands-by.html [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Dusseldorf Regional Court stands by CJEU referral of patent licensing questions, Nokia's interlocutory appeal goes up to Dusseldorf Higher Regional Court [17:52] DaemonFC[m] Anyway, just evidence (as if we needed more) that life has a tendency to make idiots rich and then they lose all of the money somehow. [17:55] techrights-bot #GenodeOS Planning For #PinePhone Bring-Up, Better GPU Support In 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146518 [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Genode OS Planning For PinePhone Bring-Up, Better GPU Support In 2021 | Tux Machines [17:57] techrights-bot There's a powerful new #Linux #gaming laptop on the scene http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146438#comment-27816 [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook reveal the Ryzen 7 and RTX 3070 powered Titan | Tux Machines [17:59] techrights-bot #Ghacks Technology News [sic] doing #microsoft spam now, calling #marketing from liars and crooks "leaks". They're not leaks, they're PR spam. ● Jan 15 [18:00] schestowitz 'Leaks' https://www.ghacks.net/2021/01/14/first-screenshot-and-video-of-windows-10x-for-single-screen-devices-leaked/ ^ DaemonFC[m] [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | First screenshot and video of Windows 10X for single-screen devices leaked - gHacks Tech News [18:00] schestowitz so-called 'leaks' [18:00] schestowitz Leaked by Microsoft's PR dept :-) [18:02] techrights-bot #BeagleV is a #RISCV single board PC for $150 or less http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431#comment-27817 #gnu #linux [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux Machines [18:06] psydroid memory leak, security leak, braind drain [18:06] psydroid everything is made possible by Windows 10x [18:06] psydroid brain* [18:06] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [18:08] techrights-bot Pushing more #surveillance #espionage and state/corporate #spying under the veil/guise of "safety" and "health" (that's the trend now) https://www.iottechtrends.com/ces-connected-healthcare-in-post-pandemic-era/ #ces [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | CES 2021: Connected Healthcare in a Post-Pandemic Era - IoT Tech Trends [18:08] *CrystalMath is now known as CrystalCat [18:14] techrights-bot "The SBC is pre-installed with #GNU #Linux and supports #OpenWrt , #LibreELEC , Android, Windows, and the open source pfSense firewall software." http://linuxgizmos.com/apollo-lake-maker-board-with-dual-gbe-and-dual-sata-starts-at-70/ [18:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Apollo Lake maker board with dual GbE and dual SATA starts at $70 [18:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [18:17] techrights-bot "Intentionally or not, the WRT54G was hiding something fundamental on the routers firmware: Software based on Linux." https://tedium.co/2021/01/13/linksys-wrt54g-router-history/ #freesw too [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | WRT54G History: The Router That Accidentally Went Open Source [18:18] techrights-bot Project Zero: Introducing the In-the-Wild Series https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2021/01/introducing-in-wild-series.html #googleprojectzero [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-googleprojectzero.blogspot.com | Project Zero: Introducing the In-the-Wild Series [18:21] techrights-bot #Xfce , #KDE Packages Flood This Weeks Tumbleweed Snapshots http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146511#comment-27818 #gnu #linux [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce 4.16 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, Download Now | Tux Machines [18:23] techrights-bot #Lenovo #IdeaPad 3 - #Vista10 and #GNU #Linux experience a week later http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146519 [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo IdeaPad 3 - Windows and Linux experience a week later | Tux Machines [18:25] techrights-bot #Distrowatch is Not a Measure of Popularity http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146520 #GNU #Linux [18:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distrowatch is Not a Measure of Popularity | Tux Machines [18:28] techrights-bot The Performance Of 3ClearLinux vs. #Fedora vs. #Ubuntu Over 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146521 #GNU #Linux [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Performance Of Clear Linux vs. Fedora vs. Ubuntu Over 2020 | Tux Machines [18:30] techrights-bot "After a lot of hard work by its maintainer Alexandre Viau and others, the decentralized communication platform #Jami (earlier known as Ring)" http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Latest_Jami_back_in_Debian_Testing__and_scriptable_using_dbus.html [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.skolelinux.org | Petter Reinholdtsen: Latest Jami back in Debian Testing, and scriptable using dbus [18:31] techrights-bot "PSI is the Pressure Stall Information subsystem for #Linux that is included in kernels 4.20 and above" https://etbe.coker.com.au/2021/01/12/psi-cgroup2/ [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | PSI and Cgroup2 etbe - Russell Coker [18:32] *CrystalCat is now known as methCAThenone [18:33] DaemonFC[m] Anyway, if it seems like the world is not fair and that success and money land on people seemingly at random who don't deserve it, it's because that's exactly what's going on. [18:33] techrights-bot YANUB: yet another (nearly) useless blog: Taking advantage of #Ruby in QSoas https://vince-debian.blogspot.com/2021/01/taking-advantage-of-ruby-in-qsoas.html #gnu #linux #vincedebian [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vince-debian.blogspot.com | YANUB: yet another (nearly) useless blog: Taking advantage of Ruby in QSoas [18:34] DaemonFC[m] Each one of my cousins had half a million in life insurance money after their mom died. Granted it's not how most people would prefer to stumble onto half a million, but it's half a million. [18:34] DaemonFC[m] She wanted them to be financially set, but she wasn't considering who she was actually leaving it to. [18:34] DaemonFC[m] Within a year, it was all gone and they were back in bankruptcy court pleading poverty. [18:35] DaemonFC[m] And just one of the things that happened to it, was they paid some shade tree mechanic almost $3,000 to work on one of their cars and then when they ended up taking it to the dealer later, found out that he was doing electrical work with duct tape and stereo wires. [18:36] DaemonFC[m] If I had gotten half a million I would have socked some of it away. Enough to cover 10 years of basic living expenses. Invested the rest. Probably be just fine for as long as I'm going to live. [18:37] DaemonFC[m] This is what happens when money lands on truly incompetent people, as it often does. [18:38] techrights-bot Discover #Fedora #Kinoite : a Silverblue variant with the #KDE Plasma desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146522 #GNU #Linux [18:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Discover Fedora Kinoite: a Silverblue variant with the KDE Plasma desktop | Tux Machines [18:38] DaemonFC[m] They didn't do anything good. They probably can't even do anything they clearly remember. All gone. [18:39] DaemonFC[m] You can usually tell who has money and who doesn't. [18:39] DaemonFC[m] They people who look like they do, don't. The people who look like they don't, do. [18:40] DaemonFC[m] Keeping up appearances is something that will ruin you before anything else does. [18:40] DaemonFC[m] It's worse than medical bills or car repair. [18:41] DaemonFC[m] What did it get them? Nobody to flaunt it to anymore. Everyone's running for the hills from COVID and it's a situation unlikely to change for a few years. [18:41] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat trying to rekindle community or volunteer contributions to #fedora "project"/"community" (what they did to #centos did NOT help) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/join-us-design-team-sessions-live/ [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Join Us: Design Team Sessions Live! Fedora Community Blog [18:42] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Taxpayers had to pay $100,000 so that the Secret Service could rent a studio apartment near the Kushners to use as a toilet. [18:43] DaemonFC[m] So that he could do the very important daily tasks such as advising Trump that we didn't need a COVID plan because it was a Democrat City Problem. [18:43] techrights-bot 10 reasons to develop #Quarkus applications on #RedHat #OpenShift - Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/01/15/10-reasons-to-develop-quarkus-applications-on-red-hat-openshift/ [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | 10 reasons to develop Quarkus applications on Red Hat OpenShift - Red Hat Developer [18:43] DaemonFC[m] Without having to let the officers use one of their 7 bathrooms. [18:43] schestowitz I read about that [18:43] schestowitz wait... [18:43] DaemonFC[m] The French started cutting people's heads off for things like this, you know. [18:44] schestowitz Jared and Ivanka Arent Sharing Toilets With People Whove Agreed to Die for Them https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-kushner-secret-service-toilet-1114636/ [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Taxpayers Have Paid $100k So Jared and Ivanka's Secret Service Can Pee - Rolling Stone [18:44] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: this mafia lacks heads [18:44] schestowitz they think with their arse [18:44] schestowitz and the mafia don thinks and speaks with his anusmouth [18:45] DaemonFC[m] Georgia taxpayers had to cough up like a million bucks so they could reaffirm twice that Trump lost the election. [18:45] DaemonFC[m] I mean, what do you want? It's not THEM paying for it. :) [18:45] DaemonFC[m] And even if he hadn't won Georgia, Biden would still have had 20 more electoral votes than he needed./ [18:45] schestowitz funny how GOP loses a hardcore bible state [18:45] schestowitz "Red state", "redneck state" [18:45] DaemonFC[m] They lost TWO of them. [18:45] schestowitz I guess one way o rally 90% of blacks to vote is call them names [18:46] DaemonFC[m] And another vote from Nebraska. [18:46] schestowitz Lebron, Kaepernick [sic], shithole countries... [18:46] DaemonFC[m] Hehehe, yeah. Got em right where you want em, don't you Don? [18:46] DaemonFC[m] ;) [18:46] schestowitz guess who sings in ainauguration [18:46] schestowitz Jennifer Lopez [18:47] schestowitz Puerto Rican [18:47] DaemonFC[m] If we're very lucky they remember long term what the Republican Party really thinks about them.\ [18:47] schestowitz but many latinx like her [18:47] schestowitz also lady gaga [18:47] schestowitz popular among lgbtq community [18:47] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, Trump's inaugural was weird and full of trolling. [18:47] schestowitz which trump viciously attack for no good reason [18:47] DaemonFC[m] "You can't always get what you want." [18:48] DaemonFC[m] I was listening to that and going "The fuck.....". [18:48] schestowitz inauguration sort of spits on "proud boys" [18:48] DaemonFC[m] Hey, at least the troops will be entertained. [18:48] schestowitz trump inauguration promises "American carnage" would end [18:48] schestowitz it started big time last year [18:49] schestowitz I didn't imagine it would hit perhaps 420k dead by inauguration [18:49] schestowitz March will be a million excess deaths, I think [18:49] DaemonFC[m] The virus mostly kills bitter old shut-ins that are the people who were trying to push gay marriage bans in 2004, Roy. [18:49] schestowitz more than died in WW2 on the US side [18:49] DaemonFC[m] So that issue isn't going to get more popular. [18:49] schestowitz +US [18:49] schestowitz +UK [18:49] schestowitz brb [18:50] DaemonFC[m] The Supreme Court probably won't make a move on it because businesses don't give a shit. [18:50] schestowitz I want to 'clean' my rss feed ahead of the weekend, I work 1-9am tonight [18:50] DaemonFC[m] The Republicans on the courts don't have to appeal to voters who went moon mad. [18:50] DaemonFC[m] So they're better than the "elected" ones. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Just one thing on the primary ballot today. Candidates for Waukegan mayor. [18:51] DaemonFC[m] That ICE thing should be a major scandal in a city where like 35% of the population is either from Mexico or just 1-2 generations away from it. [18:52] schestowitz ICE is a bush thing, right? [18:52] DaemonFC[m] I just don't know where the whole thing will land. White voters will probably break for Miguel Rivera if they have been watching Sam Cunningham for the past 4 years. [18:53] DaemonFC[m] I can't imagine he won over too many people in the white/hispanic voter groups by his tepid response to the riots and looting, his cooperation with ICE, and the sexual assault on that poor woman. [18:54] DaemonFC[m] Ran out in front of her car and then forced himself on her (a kiss anyway) in front of her husband. I mean, like wtf. [18:54] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146523 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:54] DaemonFC[m] Guy should have gotten out and beaten the fuck out of Cunningham. [18:54] DaemonFC[m] I can't imagine a jury being angry about that. [18:54] methCAThenone or at least say something [18:55] DaemonFC[m] They used to be part of INS. [18:55] DaemonFC[m] INS split up into USCIS, ICE, and CBP. [18:55] methCAThenone (i don't support physical altercations when a verbal one would suffice) [18:55] DaemonFC[m] No, if someone grabs my spouse and kisses them, they're getting a beat down from me. [18:55] DaemonFC[m] Whether the cops are called or not. [18:57] methCAThenone he could have said something before that happened [18:57] DaemonFC[m] He just didn't do anything. [18:57] DaemonFC[m] His wife went to the Waukegan police and reported it and they refused to investigate the mayor. [18:58] DaemonFC[m] So she had to go to the state police! [18:58] methCAThenone kinda sad, leaving her alone with the pressure [18:58] DaemonFC[m] The police here in Waukegan are absolute shit. [18:58] DaemonFC[m] Just sit back and watch all the crime happen. [18:58] methCAThenone better than murdering people though [18:59] DaemonFC[m] "Hundreds" of looters smashing and stealing this summer. [18:59] DaemonFC[m] 16 arrests. [18:59] techrights-bot False advertising by #Xiaomi : "the company now refers to it as a WiFi 6 Enhanced router instead, just to make sure everybody is confused" https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/13/xiaomi-mi-ax6000-wifi-6-enhanced-router-sells-for-92-in-china/ [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Xiaomi Mi AX6000 WiFI 6 "Enhanced" Router sells for $92 (in China) ● Jan 15 [19:00] DaemonFC[m] The prosecutor we had was cutting deals with them or dropping charges anyway. [19:00] DaemonFC[m] It's gotta be demoralizing I guess when you do bring him a few and he won't do anything about it. [19:01] DaemonFC[m] Like, why bother with the risk of your job when the prosecutor won't do anything. Replaced him in the election though. Time will tell how serious the new one was about his plan to go after violent criminals I guess. [19:01] DaemonFC[m] That's what's going on here. A perfect example was a home invasion where two brothers got shot and killed by the guy renting a room in the basement. [19:02] DaemonFC[m] The news totally didn't report that both of the invaders had a serious litany of criminal charges going back to the moment they turned 18 around 2000 or so. [19:02] DaemonFC[m] The lesson is if the consequences are a joke, and they keep being a joke, you get more and more crime. They do worse things later because nothing happened the last time. [19:05] techrights-bot #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146524 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:07] techrights-bot " #LibreOffice engineering consultancy and LibreOffice powered by #CIB will remain an important part in CIBs portfolio" https://blog.allotropia.de/2021/01/14/cib-spins-off-allotropia/ [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.allotropia.de | CIB spins off new allotropia software GmbH allotropia software blog [19:14] techrights-bot "MacOS, or #GNU #Linux with a GUI application, and DAB Embedded also provides Python and C++ SDKs for developers who need to implement automated testing for instance." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/15/usb2io-high-speed-interface-explorer-tool-combines-intel-cyclone-10-fpga-and-stm32h7-mcu/ [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | USB2IO high-speed interface explorer tool combines Intel Cyclone 10 FPGA and STM32H7 MCU [19:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [19:15] techrights-bot Mesa's #RADV ACO Adds Support For Rapid Packed Math - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-ACO-Rapid-Packed-Math #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [19:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa's RADV ACO Adds Support For Rapid Packed Math - Phoronix [19:19] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [19:19] *methCAThenone is now known as CrystalMath [19:20] *Digit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:20] techrights-bot #Rav1e -- like #RustLang -- needs to #deleteGithub to be taken more seriously. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rav1e-0.4-Released #microsoft #proprietarySoftwaare [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rav1e 0.4 Released For Faster Rust AV1 Encoding - But Still Is Quite Slow - Phoronix [19:21] techrights-bot Intel "Compute Walker" Support Lands For Xe HP In Linux Drivers - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Compute-Walker #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux #Gallium3D #Vulkan [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel "Compute Walker" Support Lands For Xe HP In Linux Drivers - Phoronix [19:22] psydroid how many months after the hardware started shipping? [19:23] techrights-bot "About a year ago, Ondej Mchal single-handedly rewrote Toolbox in Go, making it massively easier to work on the code compared to the previous POSIX shell implementation" https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2021/01/14/toolbox-after-a-gap-of-15-months/ [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debarshiray.wordpress.com | Toolbox After a gap of 15 months | Debarshi's den [19:23] schestowitz psydroid: Intel? [19:23] schestowitz [18:59] "Hundreds" of looters smashing and stealing this summer. [19:24] schestowitz During summer and autumn American billionaires got a trillion dollars richer [19:24] schestowitz meanwhile US debt rose 8 trillion [19:24] schestowitz and 4 trillion during last year alone [19:24] psydroid schestowitz: yes, support for the Xe GPU that DaemonFC has in his new laptop [19:24] schestowitz so the looting isn't a bunch of poor people grabbing "made in Bangladesh" items [19:24] schestowitz those are worth, all combined, well less than a billion [19:25] schestowitz and you lose sight of grifting at the TRILLIONS [19:25] schestowitz maybe you watch too much CNN, Fox, and MSN etc. [19:25] DaemonFC[m] Congress kept handing Trump money even knowing full well who he'd give it to and that it wouldn't go to COVID relief. [19:25] schestowitz psydroid: Pooh the Bear GPU [19:26] schestowitz MAGA = I take lots of debt to fake prosperity [19:26] schestowitz sums up his whole career [19:26] schestowitz like Bernand Madoff [19:26] schestowitz pretend to be rich [19:26] schestowitz with money you do not actually have [19:27] schestowitz and if you pull this off, maybe you will actually become rich in the process and can conceal the deficit... or seek bailout or file 6 bankruptcies to annul debts [19:27] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Smashing up small businesses to steal stuff is a very serious crime. [19:27] DaemonFC[m] And to trivialize it by pointing at Bezos and Musk is like, whataboutism. [19:27] schestowitz I keep hearing people who assert Biden can just print much more money to keep the country afloat [19:27] schestowitz who will be the borrowers? [19:28] schestowitz GDP is lower than national debt [19:28] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: those are crimes of "property" [19:28] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, soon debt will be twice what GDP is. [19:28] DaemonFC[m] Like Japan. [19:28] schestowitz designed to protect "land owners" [19:28] schestowitz the rich [19:28] DaemonFC[m] It didn't take long to get from 100% to 200% either. [19:28] schestowitz Japan isn't doing well [19:28] schestowitz overworked, stress, low births, suicide [19:28] DaemonFC[m] Probably less than 5 years honestly. Definitely less than 10. [19:28] schestowitz you pick the worse example, Japan [19:29] schestowitz USA ... number 2! [19:29] schestowitz In debt/gop ratio [19:29] DaemonFC[m] That about sums it up here too, Roy. [19:29] schestowitz debt-saddle 'credit' card nation [19:29] DaemonFC[m] Illinois banned guns so well that people just walk out in front of trains. [19:29] schestowitz at least Japs can find a job in their country [19:29] DaemonFC[m] How do you stop that? [19:29] DaemonFC[m] In 2018, 60-some people suicided by train in all of Illinois. [19:29] schestowitz they even import labour from overseas to make up for lack of labour in some sectors [19:29] DaemonFC[m] 2019, 168 people did it. Coronavirus still wasn't a thing. [19:30] DaemonFC[m] What do you think 2020 was? [19:30] DaemonFC[m] Haven't seen the number yet. Certainly won't be an improvement. [19:30] schestowitz the person behind "ethical licences" almost did iot [19:31] DaemonFC[m] In a state of 13 million people, 168 walking in front of trains is not large in comparison, I guess, but it's almost tripled in the span of a year, and both numbers were pre-virus. [19:31] schestowitz changed mind at last minute, according to her (him at the time) [19:31] schestowitz One Assange lawyer did it [19:31] schestowitz about 2 or 3 years ago [19:31] DaemonFC[m] Metra is turning into the Suicide Forest of Illinois. [19:31] schestowitz after release from hospital, iirc [19:32] schestowitz why not just jump off a bridge or something? [19:32] schestowitz why train? [19:32] *Digit (~user@fsf/member/digit) has joined #techrights [19:32] schestowitz it's not hard to kill oneself quite painlessly given heights [19:32] DaemonFC[m] Why go to a forest and hang yourself, and why that particular one? [19:32] DaemonFC[m] People are weird. [19:32] schestowitz hanging is more painful [19:32] schestowitz also harder to do right [19:33] Digit knot to the side, drop fast, snaps neck, rather than suffocates. [19:33] schestowitz you need to know how to make the noose properly if you get seriously injured, survive, get embarrassed and put on suicide watch [19:33] Digit brain damage too, if you get that wrong. [19:33] schestowitz Frank Sinatra tried to kill himself several times, even by putting his head in the oven, which is unbelievably stupid [19:33] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, I was reading only 8% in the US are successful. [19:33] DaemonFC[m] Seems there's an awful lot of botching it and/or cry for help in there. [19:34] schestowitz jumping off a building or bridge is easier [19:34] schestowitz pain free [19:34] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I guess it's just what's closer and easier. [19:34] schestowitz also a few moments of bungee thrill, I guess [19:35] Digit nothing high enough around here for that. going for a long swim out into the ocean seems more viable. [19:35] schestowitz that's the thing [19:35] DaemonFC[m] Many people in Chicago don't have cars and it's actually not easy to get out on the ledge of a tall building. [19:35] Digit what a weird conversation to walk into. n_n [19:35] schestowitz now they put fences in bridge [19:35] schestowitz and in tall buildings they know the appeal of suicide [19:35] schestowitz so they shut top floor, even bold windows shut [19:35] Digit wim hof method first. [19:35] DaemonFC[m] Chicago Tribune and other sites reported on each instance of that when I moved here. [19:35] DaemonFC[m] Now they don't. [19:36] schestowitz it's bad PR for business and residents when many go splat on the ground there [19:36] DaemonFC[m] Maybe they figured they were encouraging copycats and that's why Metra was having trouble. [19:36] schestowitz happened in EPO [19:36] schestowitz during working hours (Dutch branch) [19:36] schestowitz and those who lack the courage to make the jump can just get drunk [19:37] schestowitz [19:35] what a weird conversation to walk into. n_n [19:37] Digit headbutting oncoming 60mph traffic was how i intended to go, before i discovered cannabis (only tried it because i was gonna die anyway, i thought). cannabis gave me the space to think through my problems. & made me realise they'd been lying to us. [19:37] schestowitz That's DaemonFC[m] [19:37] schestowitz he derails the topic [19:37] schestowitz which is an issue [19:37] DaemonFC[m] schestowitzmentioned overwork, depression, and suicide in Japan. [19:37] schestowitz Digit: glad you turned around [19:38] DaemonFC[m] Those are the problems on the ground that's caused by a dead economy in lots of debt. [19:38] Digit praise the herb. [19:38] schestowitz better stoned than dead [19:38] schestowitz yesterday I heard that due to lockdowns the homeless hear turn against themselves and one got stabbed last week [19:38] *Blukunfando has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [19:38] DaemonFC[m] People who advocated for policies that would have avoided this in the US were called crazy and are now being deplatformed from Facebook. [19:38] schestowitz they are out in sub-zero cold with no money given, no support, no hope, maybe catching covid too [19:39] DaemonFC[m] Facebook didn't even release a statement about what Ron Paul actually did to get banned. [19:39] DaemonFC[m] I found that pretty interesting. [19:39] schestowitz they banned Paul?! [19:39] schestowitz Ron is the nicer one [19:39] Digit 8 auto-immune conditions, a dozen psychelogical/personality disorders, a dozen more physical ailments... lots of "fun". cannabis was my first activism topic, before free software. :) [19:39] DaemonFC[m] "YOU VIOLATED THE CODE OF CONDUCT!" [19:39] DaemonFC[m] Which one? [19:39] DaemonFC[m] "THE CoC!!! BEAT IT!" [19:39] DaemonFC[m] Yep. [19:39] schestowitz beat the coc? [19:40] schestowitz sounds odd [19:40] DaemonFC[m] No, beat it. [19:40] schestowitz he did [19:40] schestowitz and got banned [19:40] DaemonFC[m] As in get out of here you damned bum. [19:40] DaemonFC[m] Stop asking why we banned you. [19:40] schestowitz public exhibitionist [19:40] Digit *cringe* [19:40] DaemonFC[m] It's like Reddit now. [19:40] schestowitz Reddit is going downhill [19:40] schestowitz conde nast, its own, is firing [19:40] DaemonFC[m] "You were banned by 'the moderators' because 'reasons'." [19:41] schestowitz someone who used to Microsoft, highlighted this to me [19:41] Digit reminds me... i saw a fediverse remake/alt of reddit recently.... .... forgot the name... [19:41] schestowitz Ars is mostly dead now [19:41] schestowitz Wired is reposting [19:41] schestowitz Reddit might be last to go [19:41] schestowitz people don't want physical magazines anymore [19:41] schestowitz it's not even considered safe [19:41] schestowitz that's how conde nasty made money [19:41] DaemonFC[m] Reddit got a major boost from porn once Apple assaulted Tumblr. [19:42] schestowitz Reddit cracks down on it also [19:42] DaemonFC[m] Even though Reddit has the exact same stuff on it that Apple said was unacceptable on Tumblr, Reddit has an iOS app. [19:42] schestowitz all those platforms are censorship machines [19:42] schestowitz they want more users, inc. qanon loons [19:42] schestowitz then they get them [19:42] schestowitz and that drive away the sane people [19:42] schestowitz then they ban them [19:43] schestowitz and they're left with nothing [19:43] schestowitz not the sane [19:43] schestowitz not the insane, either [19:43] schestowitz and they shut down [19:43] DaemonFC[m] I don't think the QAnon nutcases were as prevalent on Reddit. [19:43] schestowitz CrystalMath says gab is now overrun by qanon [19:43] schestowitz minds is sometimes feeling like that, too [19:43] DaemonFC[m] The Donald or whatever they called it got banned, but only had 56,000 members. [19:43] Digit lemmy. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy :) federated reddit alternative in the making. :) [19:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - LemmyNet/lemmy: Building a federated alternative to reddit in rust [19:43] schestowitz github [19:43] schestowitz seems wrong [19:44] schestowitz wrong premise [19:44] Digit yeah. n_n better than nuthin. [19:44] schestowitz any project that starts afresh as Microsoft-hosted is doomed to fail [19:44] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: QAnon reminds me of that sci fi convention that my dad used to go to in Indianapolis. [19:44] schestowitz esp. the ones that claim to be for "Free speech" or "security" or "privacy" [19:44] DaemonFC[m] It had to change hotels all the time because it brought in freaks and weirdos and kept getting kicked out. [19:44] Digit most irritating thing about reddit... 6 months and you cant discuss that anymore. n_n way to fasc. :3 [19:45] DaemonFC[m] For several years in a row they used to book the Adam's Mark Hotel, which was very nice. [19:45] DaemonFC[m] And then after they got kicked out of that one, it got worse and worse. [19:47] techrights-bot #HowTo Install Linux Mints Cinnamon Desktop in Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146525 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Linux Mints Cinnamon Desktop in Ubuntu | Tux Machines [19:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:48] techrights-bot #PinePhone #Mobian Edition Is Coming on January 18, Powered by Debian Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146526 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Mobian Edition Is Coming on January 18, Powered by Debian Linux | Tux Machines [19:49] techrights-bot #NLG Demands Immediate Structural Change in Wake of #Impeachment and Attempted #Coup https://www.nlg.org/nlg-demands-immediate-structural-change-in-wake-of-impeachment-and-attempted-coup/ [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nlg.org | NLG Demands Immediate Structural Change in Wake of Impeachment and Attempted Coup | National Lawyers Guild [19:52] techrights-bot Security-Oriented #AlpineLinux 3.13 Releases First Clown Images With Other Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146474#comment-27819 #gnu #linux [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine Linux 3.13 Released with Official Cloud Images, Linux 5.10 LTS, and PHP 8.0 | Tux Machines [19:54] Digit :3 :) ;3 :D https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1354 i hope you dont mind, schestowitz, i quoted you. [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Host Code Elsewhere than M$ Github Issue #1354 LemmyNet/lemmy GitHub [19:54] techrights-bot Devices/Embedded Products With GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146527 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded Products With GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [19:55] DaemonFC[m] https://reason.com/2021/01/14/massive-illinois-police-reform-bill-ends-cash-bail-limits-deadly-force-mandates-body-cameras-and-makes-it-easier-to-dump-crooked-cops/ [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Massive Illinois Police Reform Bill Ends Cash Bail, Limits Deadly Force, Mandates Body Cameras, and Makes It Easier To Dump Crooked Cops Reason.com [19:55] DaemonFC[m] Nice. It gets rid of "resisting arrest" as the only charge. [19:55] Digit https://join.lemmy.ml/join/ lol @ "lemmygrad". nice pun. [19:55] DaemonFC[m] They like doing that. They go to arrest you for something, the charge gets dropped, but oh look, you "resisted". [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-join.lemmy.ml | Lemmy - A link aggregator for the fediverse [19:56] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: which is why it's best to just keep away from cops [19:56] schestowitz "am I free to go now?" [19:56] schestowitz "am I detained?" [19:56] schestowitz "no? So I can go.." [19:56] schestowitz gives them less to latch onto [19:57] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, people stick around and talk for some reason, when they don't even have to. [19:57] schestowitz Digit: good, that might have some away [19:57] schestowitz when more people say the same thing [19:57] schestowitz *some sway [19:58] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: some years ago police (I think) knocked on my door [19:58] schestowitz seeking testimony about a neighbour [19:58] schestowitz who had abused his partner [19:58] schestowitz then I thought, what's in it for me to testify? [19:58] schestowitz I just heard a shout, that's all [19:59] schestowitz and he can seek vengeance against me if I testify [19:59] schestowitz I live nearby, they can't really hide who gave a testimony [19:59] schestowitz he got evicted months later [19:59] schestowitz I never opened the door [19:59] schestowitz the police never spoke to me [19:59] schestowitz they don't care for protection of sources ● Jan 15 [20:00] schestowitz I once gave them a testimony [20:00] schestowitz and they dropped me off near the scene of a crime I was witness to [20:00] schestowitz nothing to do with me [20:00] schestowitz and I think the thugs were then going after me for speaking to the cops [20:00] schestowitz I phoned up the police [20:00] schestowitz and they didn't care [20:01] schestowitz I wrote about it publicly afterwards [20:01] schestowitz 2006: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/07/21/providing-evidence/ [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Providing Evidence to the Police [20:01] schestowitz more examples in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/04/14/police-protection/ [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Why I Believe British Police Serves and Protects Only Itself (and Maybe the Rich/Powerful) [20:05] techrights-bot #HowTo install Garuda #KDE Dr460nized 210107 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2OFJj9IUqA #Video #GNU #Linux [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Garuda KDE Dr460nized 210107 - YouTube [20:09] DaemonFC[m] What's in it for you if you testify? [20:09] DaemonFC[m] Well, if you watched him beat someone's face in as domestic abuse, I suppose a clean conscience because he would clearly deserve to go to jail. [20:10] DaemonFC[m] But as far as if it was pure speculation and you just tell them you don't like him very much or heard some commotion, I suppose not. [20:13] techrights-bot #HowTos [20:13] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146528 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:14] schestowitz they had enough evidence already, DaemonFC[m] [20:14] schestowitz the girl was alive [20:14] schestowitz other neighbours heard the dispite [20:14] schestowitz and he (Michael, IIRC) would likely not deny it happened [20:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [20:15] schestowitz but just downplay it [20:15] schestowitz she made a scene by going to the hallway and say something like "you punched me in the fucking face" [20:15] schestowitz as if to announced what happened to other people [20:17] DaemonFC[m] Downplaying something that other people are testifying about is still a mistake. [20:18] schestowitz later a letter to him was wrongly put in my box [20:18] schestowitz so I knew the police had a serious case on him [20:19] schestowitz If this country, if or when you have a criminal record, finding a job is hard [20:19] schestowitz they always check up criminal background [20:19] schestowitz and it's a bad idea to lie [20:19] schestowitz so it's chasing you for many years, punishment is very costly that way, even for as little as shoplifting [20:19] techrights-bot #KeePassXC 2.6.3 Released with Argon2id, XML2 Support [PPA] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146529 #GNU #Linux #Security [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KeePassXC 2.6.3 Released with Argon2id, XML2 Support [PPA] | Tux Machines [20:20] schestowitz so instead of putting you in prison for many years [20:20] schestowitz living off taxpayers [20:20] schestowitz they make sure you pay a high price [20:20] schestowitz so there's a big fear and deterrence against committing any crimes at all [20:30] techrights-bot "This release contains bug fixes to improve robustness. This release note describes whats different between Istio 1.8.1 and #Istio 1.8.2" https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.8.x/announcing-1.8.2/ #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.8.2 [20:31] techrights-bot New builds of #Fedora 33 https://jbwillia.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/f33-20210114-updated-live-isos-released/ #ibm #redhat #gnu #linux [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | F33-20210114 updated Live isos released | Jbwillia's Weblog [20:33] techrights-bot #openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/02 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/01/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-02/ #dominiqueLeuenberger #suse #gnu #linux [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/02 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) [20:36] DaemonFC[m] You don't have to tell them here. [20:36] DaemonFC[m] They can only do a criminal background check after they offer you the job. They can take it back, but they have to tell you that was why. [20:36] DaemonFC[m] At least in Illinois. [20:36] techrights-bot Now that conferences are dead (banned) the cash cow of #linuxfoundation (other than hefty corporate bribes) is ocer. So it's trying to reinvent itself as a certification hub. [20:38] DaemonFC[m] "Conferences" [20:39] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: The pandemic exposed a lot of bullshit, didn't it? [20:39] DaemonFC[m] People getting on planes and going to some other country for a conference, like it was 1990 or something. [20:39] DaemonFC[m] Hell, even then they could do conference calls. [20:40] techrights-bot "The Linux Foundation sponsored this post." #thenewstack : we take bribes to publish fluff for you, sign up today! https://thenewstack.io/review-of-container-to-container-communications-in-kubernetes/ [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Review of Container-to-Container Communications in Kubernetes The New Stack [20:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: At least 10 million people with active COVID-19 in the US that we know of. [20:42] DaemonFC[m] That's enough for 160,000 dead and to infect 16 million more people. [20:42] DaemonFC[m] Not even close to being extinguished. [20:43] DaemonFC[m] No evidence that the vaccine is even starting to slow down the spike. [20:44] *Digit unpauses dr john bergman video, from slide ending with comparing "with" vs "from" [20:45] schestowitz [20:43] No evidence that the vaccine is even starting to slow down the spike. [20:45] schestowitz wrong objective [20:45] schestowitz some people get very rich [20:45] schestowitz they get truckloads of taxpayers' money (debt) added to their bank accounts [20:45] schestowitz to send some juice, without even syringes [20:46] schestowitz and billie gates, likely to be dead in less than 20 years, can jerk himself off with bank statements from his Cayman Island account [20:46] schestowitz [20:39] People getting on planes and going to some other country for a conference, like it was 1990 or something. [20:47] DaemonFC[m] WHO and the Pope accused the US of "vaccine hoarding". [20:47] schestowitz Last time I was to a conference I think it was in Virginia [20:47] schestowitz and it was more like tourism [20:47] schestowitz in DC area [20:47] DaemonFC[m] We don't even have 1% of our population vaccinated yet. [20:47] schestowitz then some boring talks I didn't care for [20:47] DaemonFC[m] What the hell can they accuse us of hoarding? [20:47] schestowitz they can get more from "mother Russia" [20:47] schestowitz they also have trias [20:47] schestowitz trials [20:48] schestowitz except they actually call it that [20:48] schestowitz unlike USians giants that control the media [20:48] schestowitz or buy puff pieces [20:49] techrights-bot WRATH: Aeon of Ruin launching along with Linux support this Summer, third update out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/wrath-aeon-of-ruin-launching-along-with-linux-support-this-summer-third-update-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [20:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WRATH: Aeon of Ruin launching along with Linux support this Summer, third update out now | GamingOnLinux [20:51] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: If their concern was producing as much as possible they would agree on one vaccine that was the best and then make all companies with manufacturing capacity produce the same vaccine. [20:51] techrights-bot "Want to get involved? They need #GNU #Linux testing too (the Beta is Steam only, other stores when ready)." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/beamdog-need-your-help-to-test-enhanced-editions-of-icewind-dale-and-baldurs-gate [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beamdog need your help to test Enhanced Editions of Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate | GamingOnLinux [20:51] DaemonFC[m] That would also get rid of this ridiculous system where you have to take both shots from the same company. [20:52] DaemonFC[m] Even if that one has production problems and the others don't. [20:53] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: 5-6 months ago I would have been angry at these restaurants that are defying the indoor dining ban. [20:53] schestowitz to keep prices high [20:53] schestowitz remember: [20:53] schestowitz scarcity means more demand [20:53] schestowitz which means commanding prices [20:53] schestowitz so they don't want "too much" [20:53] DaemonFC[m] But now it's clear that nobody is going to get this under control before lots of businesses go under permanently. [20:53] schestowitz like Rolex [20:54] schestowitz throttle production to maintain artificially high prices [20:54] schestowitz some "designer" items are being burned [20:54] schestowitz to prevent them going into the "cheap" hands [20:54] schestowitz and "Devalue" the BRAND [20:55] schestowitz https://www.rt.com/uk/506443-boris-gates-pharma-vaccines-military/ [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BoJo hosts Bill Gates & pharma bigwigs to plot Covid-19 vaccine deployment as UK military preps for biggest effort since WWII RT UK News [20:55] schestowitz https://www.rt.com/op-ed/487026-bill-gates-white-house-covid19/ [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Bill Gates using his philanthropy for the good of the universe or as a power grab exercise, with one eye on the White House? RT Op-ed [20:55] schestowitz He's one of the more sinister robber barons [20:55] schestowitz most keep a low profile [20:56] schestowitz he spends money try to paint himself as a Saint [20:56] schestowitz it belatedly backfires on him (last year) [20:56] schestowitz people catch up with what was really happening all those years [20:56] schestowitz inc. his investments https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [20:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [20:57] Digit and it's FRIGHTENINGLY effective. really triggers my stultophobia when people chirp enthusiastic about him as their saviour. ... like they never heard his ex-collegues warn how ruthless and dangerous he is. [20:57] schestowitz people who lose everything during covid times realise it really was badly rigged all along http://techrights.org/2020/10/25/donald-trump-and-bill-gates/ [20:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Donald Trump Helped Bill Gates Increase His Wealth by More Than 50%, Especially During the Pandemic | Techrights [20:57] schestowitz Digit: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2020 [20:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [20:57] schestowitz lots in there [20:57] schestowitz just this one year [20:58] schestowitz kudos to DaemonFC[m] for helping me with the police docs ● Jan 15 [21:01] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Tim Cook met with Trump at his "business roundtable". [21:01] DaemonFC[m] Got rewarded by Trump calling him Tim Apple. [21:01] Digit i'm sure there's a cooked-apples / apple-sauce joke in there. [21:02] DaemonFC[m] As for the Windows 10 X leak, yes Microsoft itself releases those. It's impossible how development builds of Windows have "leaked out" since before Windows XP. [21:02] DaemonFC[m] There's even a Neptune buiild out there somewhere. It was going to be Windows 2000 Home Edition. [21:03] techrights-bot The OTHER thing we should never accept by ANY political leader https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-other-thing-we-should-never-accept-by-any-political-leader/ [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | The OTHER thing we should never accept by ANY political leader | Stop at Zona-M [21:03] DaemonFC[m] There was a Windows 2000 Professional Upgrade license that would install over Windows 98 or use a Windows 98 installation disc as proof that you previously had a copy. [21:04] Digit reactos might be interesting... in a world where M$ genuinely embrace foss, without any intention of extend+extinguish; in a world where economics empower rather than coerce. [21:04] DaemonFC[m] It wasn't exactly a big secret that they wanted people on NT. Windows 9x was a gigantic mess and horrendously obsolete and unstable, and it was really meant to be a bridge so that DOS applications kept running correctly. [21:05] techrights-bot #CentOS Hyperscaler Effort Approved With Backing From #Facebook , #Twitter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146398#comment-27821 [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Facebook, Twitter Proposing CentOS Hyperscale SIG With Newer Packages + Other Changes | Tux Machines [21:05] DaemonFC[m] It would be entirely possible to do everything important Windows does in an operating system with 1/5th of the on disk footprint. [21:06] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft leaves garbage laying around even years after anything can use it. [21:06] techrights-bot #AMD Sends In More "New Stuff" For #Radeon Graphics With Linux 5.12 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Linux-5.12-Round-2 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Sends In More "New Stuff" For Radeon Graphics With Linux 5.12 - Phoronix [21:06] DaemonFC[m] They removed syskey.exe finally because tech support scammers were using it to lock people out of the computer. [21:06] XRevan86 DaemonFC[m]: 1/20th [21:06] DaemonFC[m] I don't think ReactOS ever bothered to implement it. [21:07] DaemonFC[m] syskey.exe has never been secure. [21:08] DaemonFC[m] In addition to using weak cryptography that is known to be NSA backdoored, it never protected the entire system, and then there was a major bug in it that was exposed almost immediately, which they had to patch. [21:09] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft recommends Bitlocker now. It's rather telling that none of the criminals out there encrypt a drive with it, isn't it? [21:09] techrights-bot Games: WRATH: Aeon of Ruin, #RocketShipment , Source 2, #Beamdog http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146530 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: WRATH: Aeon of Ruin, Rocket Shipment, Source 2, Beamdog | Tux Machines [21:09] DaemonFC[m] It's maybe a "I lost a business laptop." solution. [21:10] DaemonFC[m] Not "We're under attack by a nation state or the police are digging for evidence." solution. [21:11] DaemonFC[m] The safest place to store information is in your head. [21:12] DaemonFC[m] Anything on a storage device is potentially exposed because any encryption scheme will have bugs or backdoors. [21:13] DaemonFC[m] If the state gives up and cuts you loose after a while, it's almost certainly not because they can't get at your data. It's that they don't want to admit they can and how they did it just because of your case. [21:13] techrights-bot "Our favorite #GoogleDocs killer with markdown support has a big update. We explain how we host it and why we love it."https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/143947/google-docs-replacement-self-hosted-36/ [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Google Docs Replacement | Self-Hosted 36 | Jupiter Broadcasting [21:14] DaemonFC[m] They let nobodies go sometimes so they don't spook their bigger targets. [21:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [21:15] techrights-bot Graphics: Latest From #Intel and #AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146531 #Graphics #Linux #TuxMachines [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Latest From Intel and AMD | Tux Machines [21:16] psydroid https://www.quora.com/Why-can%E2%80%99t-Microsoft-make-software-of-the-same-quality-as-Google [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why cant Microsoft make software of the same quality as Google? - Quora [21:17] schestowitz [21:12] Anything on a storage device is potentially exposed because any encryption scheme will have bugs or backdoors. [21:17] schestowitz or bug doors [21:17] psydroid I was reading through the first response and things look even worse than I thought they were [21:17] schestowitz most back doors from big companies meet that criterion [21:17] schestowitz their so-called 'mathematicians' (flunkies of math grads) figure out how to make BAD maths [21:18] schestowitz and then come up with bad crypto schemes that only seem decent on the surface [21:18] schestowitz or are OK but badly implemented [21:18] psydroid Not that I am a big fan of Google, but "shipping is a feature" must be the worst of Microsoft criteria for software [21:18] schestowitz then they work with companies like Microsoft [21:18] schestowitz to help them 'enhance security' [21:18] schestowitz they mean national security [21:18] schestowitz i.e. back doors [21:20] mjg59 Bitlocker's encryption scheme is straightforward and well studied [21:20] mjg59 It's also been reimplemented [21:20] schestowitz is this trustworthy? https://www.insideradvantagegeorgia.com/including-mac-and-linux-mozilla-vpn-is-now-available-across-all-os/ [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Including Mac and Linux, Mozilla VPN is now available across all OS- Insideradvantagegeorgia [21:20] schestowitz I mean, mozilla... [21:20] schestowitz come on... mozilla?! [21:20] schestowitz mjg59: it has back doors [21:20] schestowitz microsoft admits it [21:20] schestowitz more than one [21:21] schestowitz mjg59: stop promoting junk [21:21] mjg59 The encryption itself is very clearly not backdoored [21:21] mjg59 If any backdoor exists, it's at the UI level [21:21] schestowitz you score own goals when you talk [21:21] mjg59 But that doesn't help you if all you have is an encrypted disk [21:22] mjg59 Oh, and obviously if you let Microsoft back up the encryption key, Microsoft have the encryption key [21:23] mjg59 So, uh, don't do that [21:23] MinceR i'm sure they'll ask you whether you want to [21:23] MinceR and totally obey your choices [21:23] mjg59 They do, yes [21:23] MinceR like in all the rest of their software [21:23] psydroid how can we know it does what it claims to do without source code being available? [21:23] *DVulgaris has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [21:23] MinceR like the settings they say they'll just ignore if you're not running "Enterprise" [21:23] mjg59 The same way you know what it does if you *do* have source code available [21:23] MinceR and like the settings they say they'll just turn back on anyway [21:23] mjg59 You inspect its behaviour [21:24] MinceR microshit is so loyal to its users^Whostages [21:24] MinceR almost as loyal as they are to the NSA [21:24] mjg59 Sufficiently competent backdoors in the source code are harder to find than just watching what the code does [21:24] MinceR oh, now we're at the "it's useless to have the source code anyway" level [21:25] Digit i recall reading a portion of a (iirc) microsuck/fuckmicrosoft article, called (iirc, something like) "backdoors, hidden backdoors, really hidden backdoors, really really hidden backdoors" [21:25] MinceR "just buy Backdoors10, keep paying, obey the mafia and shut up" [21:25] mjg59 No, source code is extremely useful if the author is acting in good faith [21:25] techrights-bot #KaOS 2021.01 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146517#comment-27824 #kde #gnu #linux [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KaOS Linuxs First ISO Release in 2021 Adds Linux Kernel 5.10 LTS and Qt 6 | Tux Machines [21:25] mjg59 If you want to change the behaviour of something then that's massively easier with the source code [21:25] MinceR the redmond mafia has yet to act in good faith even once [21:25] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [21:25] mjg59 Well yes, that's my point [21:25] mjg59 If Microsoft were backdooring their OS, the source code wouldn't help you find that [21:26] schestowitz latest clickbai BS from zdNYET: https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-fixes-screensaver-bypass-discovered-by-two-kids/ [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Mint fixes screensaver bypass discovered by two kids | ZDNet [21:26] schestowitz complete with provocation in a photo [21:26] MinceR they started a "business" stealing the code and resources of others and grew into a mafia that decides whether you're allowed to boot your OS on your "PC" [21:26] schestowitz wtf? some people cite this as source like it's a site that's not an advertising platform [21:27] *Digit adds zdnet.com to his someonewhocares hosts file [21:27] schestowitz MinceR: I think we waste our time here [21:27] schestowitz we only serve to reaffirm what we know about mjg59 [21:27] schestowitz rianne said I should consider doing a video on the dnet crap [21:28] schestowitz cimpanu trolling [21:28] Digit echo chamber wasting time? yeh. i get that impression with nearly every chan i'm in. gotta get more out-reaching. [21:28] schestowitz but it would only give it more visibility, I replied... and it's clearly designed to provoke [21:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [21:29] schestowitz screensaver 'hacks' are a joke [21:29] schestowitz they typically allude to complete physical access [21:29] schestowitz keyboard, disk, electric cable [21:29] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Watching Schindler's List. [21:29] schestowitz many machines are set up to log in when reboot [21:29] schestowitz so once reboot (or rebooted) you bypass the screensaver/lock screen [21:29] mjg59 The screensaver is absolutely a security boundary [21:29] DaemonFC[m] The guy says, "I'm sure you'll do fine after you get the contracts. In fact, the worse things get I'm sure the better you'll do.". [21:29] schestowitz this is so awfully bad 'reporting' [21:29] DaemonFC[m] Seems to be the case with Pfizer and Moderna under COVID. [21:30] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: ICE [21:30] mjg59 And being able to bypass authentication is a legitimate security issue [21:30] schestowitz sigh [21:30] schestowitz tty1, killal screen whatever [21:31] schestowitz *killall [21:31] schestowitz or ssh to it [21:31] mjg59 How do you log in to tty1? [21:31] mjg59 Or ssh in? [21:31] schestowitz reboot [21:31] schestowitz tty1 [21:31] schestowitz depends on distro [21:31] schestowitz anyway....... [21:31] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Yes, the way Trump was running ICE it was like the beginning of the German harassment of the Jews and early days of "camps". [21:31] mjg59 Ok, so you reboot and now you're staring at a prompt asking you for the disk unlock key [21:31] DaemonFC[m] Not mass executions right away, you know. [21:31] Digit sorry, reboot? cant just ctrl+alt+f1? what did i miss? [21:32] mjg59 ctrl+alt+f1 gives you a login prompt [21:32] DaemonFC[m] They thought they'd live, as second class citizens maybe. Or internment for the duration of the war. [21:32] techrights-bot #Mozilla Performance Blog: Performance Sheriff Newsletter (December 2020) https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2021/01/15/performance-sheriff-newsletter-december-2020/ #firefox [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Performance Sheriff Newsletter (December 2020) Mozilla Performance [21:32] DaemonFC[m] Then that's totally not what happened next. [21:32] techrights-bot #Librem14 Update: Shipping Starts in February with Extended Battery https://puri.sm/posts/librem-14-update-shipping-starts-in-february-with-extended-battery/ #pureos #gnu #linux [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Librem 14 Update: Shipping Starts in February with Extended Battery Purism [21:33] DaemonFC[m] Trump's people who are now resigning a few days ahead of Trump's term being over with had plans to escalate things far worse than now if he got a second term. [21:33] Digit sounds like terrorism. [21:34] DaemonFC[m] They alluded to a "major plan" on "immigration". Not just bans and raids, but I'm almost certain that mass murder would have began to unfold as well. [21:34] DaemonFC[m] You have to ease into it. [21:34] DaemonFC[m] Right? You get in and you don't totally run the court system right away. Takes years. [21:34] DaemonFC[m] You have to degrade the system into a dictatorship. [21:35] DaemonFC[m] At the rate he was getting judges confirmed his appointments are nearly a third of the federal judiciary after just 4 years. [21:35] DaemonFC[m] Give him a few more and see what the courts would uphold. Just about anything he wanted to do, I'd imagine. [21:36] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146532 #GNU #Linux [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:37] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: they try to remain employable [21:37] schestowitz in poltics [21:37] schestowitz tweaking the record in the last fortnight [21:37] DaemonFC[m] It all turned to shit on the people who worked for him, you know. [21:38] DaemonFC[m] They deserve to never get good employment again. [21:38] DaemonFC[m] One of them admitted that and said the only reason they hadn't resigned was they didn't know when they'd get employment after this and it was the only way to cash out their vacation time. [21:38] techrights-bot US passes 400,000 #covid19 death toll today, a lot faster than I imagined months ago. Based on my readings, 1,000,000 in EXCESS deaths by March. [21:39] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: There's some that were actually impressed with Trump, but it's nobody that's in a position to stay in fancy hotels or hire the thugs and criminals out of his former administration. [21:39] Digit unsurprising if true, given the advice given, contrary to established sound medical/health practices. but tricky to fathom, given the bribes and corruption rife throughout. [21:40] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I was reading that Biden gets to decide if the Trump hotel in DC even is allowed to stay open. [21:40] DaemonFC[m] Government property and the lease says he can be booted out if he's under investigation for anything. [21:40] DaemonFC[m] But it's already losing money, and after foreign governments quit booking things there as bribery, it's not going to get better. [21:41] schestowitz https://truthout.org/articles/qanon-congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-threatens-joe-biden-with-impeachment/ [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | QAnon Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene Threatens Joe Biden With Impeachment [21:41] schestowitz yesterday [21:41] DaemonFC[m] And all of the banks Trump was doing cut him off and told him to deposit his money someplace else. [21:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Any member can introduce articles of impeachment, but this won't even get a hearing. [21:42] DaemonFC[m] It's something for her voters in the district to read about and nothing more. [21:42] techrights-bot #KDE Agustn Benito Bethencourt: Improve your software product delivery process performance using metrics (II) https://toscalix.com/2021/01/15/improve-your-software-product-delivery-process-performance-using-metrics-ii/ #programming [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improve your software product delivery process performance using metrics (II) Toscalix [21:43] schestowitz SJVN oh gawd [21:43] schestowitz https://linuxsecurity.com/news/hackscracks/solarwinds-defense-how-to-stop-similar-attacks?rss [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | SolarWinds defense: How to stop similar attacks. [21:43] schestowitz fell from grace so fast [21:43] schestowitz not linking directly to zdnyet here [21:43] schestowitz LF boosting [21:43] schestowitz and Microsoft apologism [21:44] Digit tis troubling how much gets thrown out with the muddying psyop that is qanon. likely loadsa babies thrown out with the bathwater by association. [21:44] DaemonFC[m] It might be better to insist that Trump keeps the contract for the hotel. [21:45] techrights-bot "The system runs a #Yocto -based #GNU #Linux ... on the dual-core, 1.3GHz/1.8GHz Atom x5-E3930, which has a low 6.5W TDP." http://linuxgizmos.com/din-rail-net-appliances-supply-four-gbe-ports/ [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | DIN-rail net appliances supply four GbE ports [21:45] DaemonFC[m] He has to pay the government to lease the building. If they throw him out it may be empty for years. It's a money pit that's more of a curse to have at this point. [21:45] DaemonFC[m] What do you think, schestowitz? [21:46] DaemonFC[m] While he was in office it worked out quite nicely for him which is why he never moved to terminate the contract. [21:46] DaemonFC[m] Why would you when foreign governments are booking empty rooms to slip cash to you? [21:46] schestowitz [21:44] tis troubling how much gets thrown out with the muddying psyop that is qanon. likely loadsa babies thrown out with the bathwater by association. [21:46] DaemonFC[m] As an ex-president they won't, but he's so narcissistic that he won't terminate his own contract before he leaves. [21:47] schestowitz yes, qanon is helpful to Gates and others [21:47] schestowitz as anything they touch they discredit [21:47] DaemonFC[m] It would be admitting the end was here for his brand. [21:47] schestowitz even the legit stuff, the signal [21:47] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: his brand might be good in Poland [21:47] schestowitz and places that favour autocrats [21:48] schestowitz elsewhere it's a synonymous for corruption and far right [21:48] schestowitz some "brand", eh? [21:48] schestowitz most famous Austrian is Hitler [21:48] schestowitz not Arnold the steroid pump [21:48] DaemonFC[m] His selfishness got many people killed. Trying to subvert lockdowns and downplay the virus so that people would book some hotel rooms. [21:48] schestowitz over 4000 dead again today [21:48] schestowitz based on what I saw yesterday [21:48] schestowitz at around this time it's 2.5k [21:48] schestowitz by day's end 4k [21:49] schestowitz same tomorrow [21:49] schestowitz sunday and monday easing up as the counters take the weekend off [21:49] DaemonFC[m] The official death toll in the US went over 400,000 a few hours ago. [21:49] DaemonFC[m] But that's the official one. [21:49] schestowitz so maybe another 20k dead by inauguration, at least 15k more [21:50] schestowitz excess deaths is what counts [21:50] schestowitz covid imperils access to health [21:50] Digit it's so effective, many times i have to explain that because i disbelieve establishment scams, does not make me a far-right nutjob, and i show them my political compass results that peg me nearer bakunin in the libertarian left. even my uncle needed explained i'm not a drumpff supporter. that really blew my mind. [21:50] schestowitz never mind suicides, obesity, malnutrition etc. [21:50] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, it's killing everyone in Fort Wayne, Indiana every month at this rate. [21:50] DaemonFC[m] Just, directly. [21:50] schestowitz the hospitals reach capacity [21:50] schestowitz and send people back home [21:50] schestowitz to die there [21:50] DaemonFC[m] I grew up in a town in Indiana of about 5,500 people. [21:51] schestowitz or to grow their tumours a bit more [21:51] DaemonFC[m] The Coronavirus kills almost that every day now. [21:51] schestowitz until the tumours are "big enough" for ER [21:51] schestowitz Huntington? Must be different place... smaller [21:52] schestowitz Manchester is about half a million people [21:52] schestowitz Greater Manchester about 4 times that much, IIRC [21:52] DaemonFC[m] It's called Gas City, it's a little town near Marion. [21:52] schestowitz Gacity [21:52] DaemonFC[m] It was founded as Harrisburg, Indiana, but there was a large deposit of natural gas found there in the late 19th century. [21:53] Digit many think these problems are new, like we'll be in a magic paradise of working democracy and legit healthcare once rid of drumpf and/or the current vaccine/covid scam/situation. madness. delusional madness. surely part of the psyop ploy to placate an angry populace. [21:53] schestowitz yeag [21:53] schestowitz with you on this [21:53] schestowitz *yeah [21:53] DaemonFC[m] The population surged over a few years and it was all over because of idiotic drilling techniques and torches that they lit to advertise an "unlimited" amount of natural gas. [21:53] schestowitz i have natural gas [21:53] DaemonFC[m] It went on for a while, but then things caved in apparently due to void collapse. [21:53] schestowitz but not enough [21:53] DaemonFC[m] Trapped most of the gas. Not worth recovering. [21:54] schestowitz fracking costs lots [21:54] schestowitz to extract so little [21:54] schestowitz liquids, truck, drilling [21:54] schestowitz they lose tons of money [21:54] schestowitz iirc, state sponsors this scam [21:54] schestowitz it never made any sense at all, they started doing it here too [21:54] schestowitz so many business pretend to be worthy [21:54] schestowitz even if all they even do it lose money [21:55] schestowitz and suck money from the state to keep on going [21:55] schestowitz it's incredible that tesla is value so highly though it barely ever made a profit [21:55] Digit maddening, that industries can get together, and even individual corporations/monopolies so big, and eliminate the competition, suppressing technologies that would empower and emancipate everybody, so instead we become disempowered slaves dependent on their toxic inferior crap. [21:55] schestowitz and not many people buy cars now, certainly not at 35k apiece [21:55] Digit ~ and that's textbook how M$ rose to power. [21:55] schestowitz Digit: oh. YOU CANNOT SAY SLAVE NOW [21:56] schestowitz you offend people [21:56] schestowitz I hereby, on behalf of our CoCstittuion, BAN YOU! [21:56] schestowitz I started saying "slave" more [21:56] schestowitz in relation to companies that try to ban the word [21:56] schestowitz like shithub, Intel... [21:56] schestowitz to express the sorts of things they do to people [21:57] Digit we never needed combustion for about 140 years. we never needed rockets for at least 90 years. could have had free energy for everybody. never needed cotton dependence, opiates, timber, half of all pharma, on and on for all the things cannabis does. [21:57] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: It wasn't really much of a place, but there wasn't really any crime to speak of. [21:57] schestowitz they limit conversations on behalf of mythical groups it supposedly offends [21:57] schestowitz so mailing lists get 'sanitised''... COZ COC [21:57] schestowitz and you cannot criticise corporations anymore [21:57] schestowitz that would offend women or minorities\ or something [21:57] *Digit remembers advice for today "5 guys sitting around grumbling, isnt gonna work out." n_n [21:57] schestowitz BTW, women are the majority in this planet [21:58] DaemonFC[m] When you get big cities in big states with lots of welfare programs, all kinds of bad things happen. [21:58] schestowitz 30 trillion debt [21:58] schestowitz IIRC, we have 2 here [21:58] schestowitz 2 trillion [21:58] Digit schestowitz: yeah, is that just because they live longer and do less potentially lethal stuff? or is there a birthrate bias to females too? just wondering [21:59] schestowitz national gdp was like 3 times that or 4 times, depending what and when you check [21:59] DaemonFC[m] Consider what happened to this country after the "war on poverty". [21:59] schestowitz lasty I check, us gdp fell to about 23 trillion [21:59] DaemonFC[m] The government's broke. [21:59] DaemonFC[m] The people are broke. [21:59] schestowitz but they measure that based on oligarchy alone [21:59] DaemonFC[m] Lots of human garbage that takes up space and has kids that shoot at each other by the time they're 12. [21:59] schestowitz wall street up -> oligarchs richer -> GDP up without accounting for how it's distributed among the "capita" ● Jan 15 [22:00] schestowitz [21:58] schestowitz: yeah, is that just because they live longer and do less potentially lethal stuff? or is there a birthrate bias to females too? just wondering [22:00] schestowitz suicides, accidents, wars [22:00] schestowitz and then you have longevity as a factor [22:00] schestowitz in some countries they toss out or abort females [22:00] schestowitz china one of them [22:00] DaemonFC[m] Nobody in their right mind wanted to be near a big city, Roy. [22:00] *grover (~grover@161.35.231.164) has joined #techrights [22:00] schestowitz but they won't admit this officially.. too censorious [22:00] DaemonFC[m] Not 30 years ago. Not 10 years ago. Not now. [22:01] Digit GDP, a madness, a flawed measure, even before they included the F.I.R.E sector. explodes exponential madness with that included. now it's like theives stole more, crooks extorted more, people got more in debt, so gross domestic product is up. [` ]_[` ] [22:01] DaemonFC[m] They're a magnet for people who produce nothing and crime on each other. [22:01] DaemonFC[m] And if you get too close, you'll be their next victim. [22:01] schestowitz "The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trumps time in office." https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That Itll Weigh Down the Economy for Years ProPublica [22:01] schestowitz yesterday [22:01] schestowitz at this pace, 20 trillion a decade [22:01] schestowitz that's like the total GDP [22:02] schestowitz 250+ years [22:02] schestowitz who will pay that back? [22:02] schestowitz and who to? The plutocrats? [22:02] Digit what's that thing... debt jubilee? all that talk of the great reset... might as well be wiping the slate clean, just like religious texts and fight club prophecied. n_n [22:02] DaemonFC[m] Some people dis others for having a Social Security check or something. [22:02] schestowitz a few hundred of families with total wealth around 15 TRILLION? [22:02] DaemonFC[m] At least they're not gunning down the neighborhood and robbing people. [22:03] schestowitz Digit: but covid, you cannot even publicly assemble now [22:03] schestowitz they can arrest you [22:03] Digit at the turn of last century, the rothschild empire was said to be 200 trillion. so much squandered potential. [22:03] DaemonFC[m] Smashing windows and taking things from people who earn a living. [22:03] schestowitz [22:02] At least they're not gunning down the neighborhood and robbing people. [22:03] schestowitz Not yet [22:03] Digit schestowitz: the very plan. just as the pressure for a revolution was brewing. [22:03] schestowitz just wait till the gov. cheques stop coming and only the neighbour has a loaf in the fridge [22:03] Digit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMLDhe7zxw [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-David Graeber on Democracy - YouTube [22:04] schestowitz Digit: it's not that much [22:04] schestowitz or [need citation] [22:04] schestowitz even if inflation-adjusted [22:04] Digit no idea what we dont see. [22:04] schestowitz many descendants, maybe tens of billions each [22:04] Digit the runaway tech in black projects for example. [22:05] schestowitz same for the Fords [22:05] Digit whole nations owned, in their portfolio included in that number, i'm given to understand. [22:05] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: It was the welfare state that caused this mess. [22:05] schestowitz WB and IMF [22:05] DaemonFC[m] You should see Huntington, Indiana. Lots of $15-20 an hour job postings. [22:05] schestowitz some of the fringe group try to lay it all one family [22:06] schestowitz it's convenient if they want some "Jewish" scapegoat [22:06] DaemonFC[m] Then on the Facebook group it's strangers asking if you'll give them your TV because their husband is unemployed or co-sign a car loan for them. [22:06] Digit even the budget hole in usa's military+etc is... what... 30 trillion? 50 trillion? 90 trillion? [22:06] schestowitz liek they do Soros [22:06] DaemonFC[m] The mooch factor is really high with these people. [22:06] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: 1.1. trilliona year [22:06] schestowitz but increased in recent years [22:06] DaemonFC[m] Meanwhile, the McDonalds is open based on when they can get staff members to show up. [22:06] schestowitz maybe 1.3 trillion by now [22:07] schestowitz much funnelled via contracts to private firms like LockMart, Amazon, Microsoft, IBM... [22:07] schestowitz so it's a sort of stimulus for the rich [22:08] schestowitz I guess Pentagon budget inflated-adjusted would be like 50 trillion since WW2 [22:08] Digit and so much vaster wealth destroyed than is stolen. that's what irks the most. destroying something like $7 for every $1 stolen. just to have more than another. ignorant to the vast more they could have, if they embraced synergy. [22:08] schestowitz money down the drain [22:08] schestowitz for US corporations to dominate the world by intimidation, bombing, espionage [22:08] schestowitz Germany's rearmament rendered it more broke [22:09] schestowitz and then it ended up in rubble [22:09] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I might show up at a city council meeting about the buildings that Mayor Cunningham has left standing that are drawing gangs and shit. [22:09] schestowitz because idiots had nothing left to lose, could barely buy even food [22:09] DaemonFC[m] Gary, Indiana has been using the National Guard to demolish buildings. [22:09] schestowitz while Hitler and chums made tanks and rockets [22:09] DaemonFC[m] Maybe we can do that here. [22:09] Digit anyhoo, ima take a break from our echo-chamber grumblings n see what practical things i can attend to. ;D l8rs peeps. :) [22:09] schestowitz ok [22:10] DaemonFC[m] Maybe they were holding off until they could dole out some no bid contract to someone who knows the mayor. That's how government actually works, it seems. [22:10] schestowitz yeah [22:10] schestowitz kickbacks [22:10] schestowitz GCHQ Manchester wasting 80,000 quid on a TV set https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3UD-0FqC18 [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DAWN GCHQ RAID AND HOMELESS MAN STABBED TO DEATH - YouTube [22:10] DaemonFC[m] They're talking about turning the abandoned hotel on Green Bay Road into a senior apartment complex. [22:10] schestowitz "yo, mate, you sell TVs? [22:10] schestowitz "I will buy one for 80k [22:10] schestowitz then you give me $10,000, CASH, down the local pub [22:10] schestowitz very common ^^ [22:11] schestowitz and yet lack of proper journalism lets them off the hook [22:11] schestowitz trump did that at a scale of trillions [22:11] schestowitz [22:10] They're talking about turning the abandoned hotel on Green Bay Road into a senior [22:12] DaemonFC[m] I've been having good luck at the polls this year. [22:12] DaemonFC[m] Everyone I voted for has won. [22:12] schestowitz what will be left of them (after COVID) [22:12] schestowitz many nursing homes too will have "vacancies" [22:12] schestowitz for staff and "clients" [22:12] DaemonFC[m] Pretty much. [22:12] DaemonFC[m] So much for "nursing shortage". [22:12] schestowitz some get ill and must self-isolate [22:12] schestowitz and miht never come back to work [22:12] DaemonFC[m] Something that kills 100 retirement homes full of either residents or people who would have been in a few years every day. [22:13] schestowitz not worth the pay [22:13] schestowitz give THEM a payrise [22:13] schestowitz Sanders has said that for half a year [22:13] schestowitz they're not just to be called "heros" [22:13] schestowitz S*heroes [22:13] schestowitz PAY them [22:13] DaemonFC[m] Seems to me like nursing work is a bubble that just popped. Right now, they need them because so many are sick with COVID at once. [22:13] DaemonFC[m] When things settle down, many are going to have trouble just finding work at all. [22:14] schestowitz maybe they can reorganise them as on-site morgues [22:14] schestowitz the way things are going [22:14] schestowitz nursing homes are greenhouses for COVID [22:14] DaemonFC[m] SNL was joking about old people dying in nursing homes back in March. [22:14] schestowitz so if you can house grandpa, go ahead, give them their space [22:14] DaemonFC[m] Seems pretty repulsive now, come to think of it. [22:14] schestowitz sending them to densely populated retirement housing it too risky [22:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [22:15] schestowitz pension firms don't have to pay out much [22:15] schestowitz worked well for them [22:15] schestowitz when will retirement age be lowered? [22:15] DaemonFC[m] By the time this blows over, at least a third of the people in the nursing homes will be dead, and there will be another million people who would have needed one soon but don't now because those people are dead. [22:15] schestowitz you know, to meet declining thresholds for life expectancy/longevity [22:15] schestowitz They never reduce the ages [22:16] schestowitz only increase [22:16] schestowitz so your pension if like copyright terms [22:16] schestowitz always drifting further and further away from you [22:16] schestowitz until you "rest in peace" [22:16] schestowitz with no payouts [22:18] schestowitz Wow, these speakers never code [22:18] schestowitz https://opensource.org/node/1098 [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | LCA: Catch Talks by OSI Staff and Community | Open Source Initiative [22:18] schestowitz a bunch of 'activists' [22:18] schestowitz the ones who talk about injustice and stuff [22:18] schestowitz but don't do open source [22:18] schestowitz OSI is technically unsuitable for its job [22:18] schestowitz wth? [22:19] schestowitz maybe after the drinks they can raise money for Biden [22:19] schestowitz and call that "open source" [22:19] schestowitz corporatism [22:20] techrights-bot How many of these #OSI speakers ever wrote code or did Open Source? https://opensource.org/node/1098 see http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/why-osi-is-defunct/ [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 is the Year When the Open Source Initiative Became (More Officially) Defunct | Techrights [22:20] DaemonFC[m] CNBC is calling on Biden to raise the retirement age. [22:21] techrights-bot #mozilla : we fire #firefox staff (not the CEO who pockets MILLIONS in salaries every few months) and we keep people who develop #surveillance on #microsoft servers https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/01/15/this-week-in-glean-proposals-for-asynchronous-design/ [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | This Week in Glean: Proposals for Asynchronous Design Data@Mozilla [22:23] schestowitz [22:20] CNBC is calling on Biden to raise the retirement age. [22:23] schestowitz Corporations don't want to pay workers [22:23] schestowitz and they weaponise the media [22:23] schestowitz so people live just to work [22:23] schestowitz maybe 2 jobs at once, if they can still find these [22:23] schestowitz beggars and oligafchs [22:24] schestowitz feudalism disguised as "BUT HER COVID!" [22:25] DaemonFC[m] Yes, you can tell that this is not meant for the consumption of most of the public. [22:25] DaemonFC[m] Which either has to work or need a job and can't have one. [22:25] techrights-bot "the last community edition of the #PinePhone , an update on the Quartz64 single board computers, and with some good news regarding #PineTab and #Pinebook Pro production." https://www.pine64.org/2021/01/15/january-update-happy-new-gear/ [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pine64.org | January Update: Happy New Gear! | PINE64 [22:30] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: we are screwed here also. BUT... [22:30] schestowitz I put the numbers together, and compared to the US, for example, well... nowhere as bad [22:30] schestowitz neither socially nor financially [22:31] schestowitz the US society is deeply divided and heavily armed [22:31] DaemonFC[m] Well, on the how screwed are we report, the UK is pretty screwed too. [22:31] schestowitz we saw last year it's always near boiling point [22:31] schestowitz no riots here or plots to dethrone the authorities [22:31] DaemonFC[m] The lockdown that's going on there will eventually be required here thanks to that damned mutant strain. [22:31] DaemonFC[m] Or eventually we'll have 9,000 people every day dying instead of like 4,000. [22:31] schestowitz you just have no lockdown [22:32] schestowitz to conceal the severity of things [22:32] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, they've accepted that the shit lands where it lands. [22:32] schestowitz but the longer you wait, the more you will pay [22:32] DaemonFC[m] Nice, right? [22:32] schestowitz financially we can still pay people to not work [22:32] schestowitz for now [22:32] schestowitz not sure for how much longer [22:33] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I'm expecting about a million more dead here by the end of this year. [22:33] schestowitz by March [22:33] schestowitz inc. people with cancers that go undetected [22:33] DaemonFC[m] The vaccine rollout is a complete joke. [22:33] schestowitz plus obesity, depression etc. [22:33] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: it's not to them [22:33] schestowitz THEY MAKE LOADS OF MONEY [22:33] schestowitz at all levels [22:33] schestowitz kickbacks, sales, orders... [22:34] schestowitz politicians selling "hope" [22:34] schestowitz "change' [22:34] DaemonFC[m] Lots of money, very little product going out. [22:34] schestowitz "change for the public" [22:34] schestowitz "here's a dime" [22:34] DaemonFC[m] Who knows if you're better off getting it or not getting it? [22:34] schestowitz "use this change wisely... buy rice" [22:34] schestowitz covid is international [22:34] schestowitz at some point poor countries will stop exporting their crops too [22:34] schestowitz they look after their own people first [22:35] schestowitz freight is already slowing and expensive [22:35] schestowitz not many shipping cars and oil around [22:35] schestowitz so the cost of food shipping can go up [22:35] schestowitz fuel for boats is cheaper, but they cannot make full use of capacity [22:36] schestowitz and it doesn't scale when many vessels you have just part at the bay/port doing nothing [22:36] schestowitz at work we track vessels [22:36] schestowitz for protection of undersea cables and stuff [22:36] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Yeah, and the government keeps this insane ethanol blending mandate going on through this. [22:36] schestowitz one could collect data from the DB on number of vessels in motion [22:37] schestowitz I am sure it decreased [22:37] DaemonFC[m] Ethanol was never going to be the replacement for fossil fuels. It's just a boon for corn states. [22:37] schestowitz yeah, corrupt [22:37] schestowitz gates profits from it [22:37] schestowitz grifting [22:37] schestowitz taxpayers subsidise Gates [22:37] DaemonFC[m] The USS Nimitz being told to go home then back to Iran. [22:37] schestowitz in yet another scam [22:37] DaemonFC[m] Who knows. May have to start a war in the last 3 days of Trump's term. [22:37] schestowitz it won't work [22:37] schestowitz the generals will veto [22:38] schestowitz he has no sway left [22:38] DaemonFC[m] You think that the generals would refuse at this point? [22:38] schestowitz if you asked me 2 weeks ago, I'd say that yes, it's a risk [22:38] schestowitz now he needs to be impeached at least for the record [22:38] schestowitz and not acquitted [22:38] *huggi has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:38] DaemonFC[m] They need to hold off on sending it to the Senate. [22:38] schestowitz Moscow Mitch is procrastinating [22:38] schestowitz they won't reconvene to oust the nazi [22:38] *huggi (sid80718@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wumabghmaqxuhwjy) has joined #techrights [22:38] DaemonFC[m] There's more important business that must be done RIGHT NOW. [22:39] DaemonFC[m] The impeachment can wait for 3-4 months. [22:39] schestowitz maybe another reason to start a way [22:39] DaemonFC[m] But they're so stupid they'll get in their own way and then the Republicans who voted to throw out our election will just vote it down. [22:39] schestowitz to delay the impeachment pipeline [22:39] MinceR maybe they need a bit of motivation in the form of another siege [22:39] schestowitz it'll happen [22:39] schestowitz maybe on Jan20th [22:39] schestowitz I think they should do a small ceremony indoors [22:40] schestowitz the secret services and all are armed [22:40] DaemonFC[m] I agree we need everyone on record because the people who support this are going to vote Republican no matter what. [22:40] schestowitz and many are with the fascists [22:40] schestowitz it's too risk, could be another jfk [22:40] schestowitz the loons are already detishising it [22:40] DaemonFC[m] The people who don't are going to be put off if their Senator can't take a stand against Trump even after he's already gone. [22:40] schestowitz *too risky [22:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: If they want the next Democratic president (Harris) to win 2024 in a sweep of like 40+ states, they would kill Biden. [22:41] DaemonFC[m] They'd be smarter to just wait him out and vote in 2024. [22:41] DaemonFC[m] But they're not smart people. [22:41] DaemonFC[m] And it only takes a single nutcase. [22:41] DaemonFC[m] They won't defeat Biden with violence. [22:42] techrights-bot "It's time to check out the two desktop environments built for the latest release of #LinuxMint 20.1 - MATE and Cinnamon!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeJe6l_fmbE #gnu #linux [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Minimalist vs Modern - Linux Mint 20.1 - YouTube [22:42] DaemonFC[m] They may turn him into a martyr. They might enrage the public against the Republican Party. [22:42] DaemonFC[m] It would backfire on their cause way more than it's worth. [22:42] DaemonFC[m] If they were smart, they would see that. [22:43] schestowitz who is they? [22:43] schestowitz can be a he [22:43] DaemonFC[m] Right wing nutjobs. [22:43] schestowitz some idiot with qanon and a long-range rifle [22:43] DaemonFC[m] They're everywhere. [22:43] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: If it helps, we had almost this level of right wing chatter in 2008. [22:43] schestowitz these ceremonies were always too dangerous [22:43] schestowitz they're like a concert [22:43] DaemonFC[m] I was worried about President Obama. [22:44] DaemonFC[m] It seems like they're going to keep Biden much safer because they realize the level of danger now. [22:44] schestowitz some politicians died this way, I think Assad in Egypt [22:44] DaemonFC[m] How couldn't they? [22:44] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Did you notice Trump inciting the mob....from behind bulletproof glass a half a foot thick? [22:44] DaemonFC[m] Real big man. [22:44] DaemonFC[m] Man of the people. Beloved by all. [22:45] DaemonFC[m] Knows he can't even trust his own supporters. [22:45] schestowitz Sadat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hrEP5bf9Q [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WAVY Archive: 1981 Assassination of Anwar Sadat - YouTube [22:45] DaemonFC[m] It was comical to even watch that. [22:45] DaemonFC[m] He's hiding behind an IED-resistant shield telling them to go raise hell. [22:45] DaemonFC[m] Then my mom's like "It was antifa!". [22:46] DaemonFC[m] I said, "They had cameras on the crowd from the Trump rally to the raid on the Capitol.". [22:46] schestowitz I think google youtube now bans the raw footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_RuvQOFeeo [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6th October 1981: Egyptian President Anwar Sadat assassinated - YouTube [22:46] schestowitz they just show photos [22:46] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I'll tell you what watching that reminded me of. [22:47] schestowitz your mom is nuts [22:47] DaemonFC[m] That movie Little Nicky where the guy's saying "Soon I will be your new Satan and you will see things more horrible than you could possibly imagine!". [22:47] DaemonFC[m] With Rudy Giuliani as one of the demons, obviously. [22:47] MinceR 15 234434 < DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Did you notice Trump inciting the mob....from behind bulletproof glass a half a foot thick? [22:47] DaemonFC[m] Half expected Adam Sandler to show up and hand Rudy a bucket of Popeyes. [22:47] MinceR well, there's a reason they call him Bunker Bitch [22:49] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Rudy Giuliani's mannerisms are just comical. Like, he acts like you'd expect some kind of imp that crawled out of hell to act. [22:50] techrights-bot #WhiskerMenu 2.5.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145879#comment-27825 #gnu #linux [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whisker Menu 2.5 Released | Tux Machines [22:50] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Some RWNJ site was talking about how awful it was that 1 in 11 pregnancies in Israel ends in abortion. [22:51] DaemonFC[m] I was like, "Yeah, killing babies, smoking marijuana....Gay bars all over the place. These truly are people chosen of God. Keep sending them my money!". [22:51] MinceR :> [22:52] techrights-bot #PinePhone #Mobian , #Librem 14, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146533 #GNU #Linux [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Mobian, Librem 14, and More | Tux Machines [22:53] *grover has quit (Excess Flood) [22:53] DaemonFC[m] Maybe if we tell them there's like all kinds of Jews here, Illinois can get $6 billion from the feds too. [22:53] DaemonFC[m] I can never tell with the far right. [22:54] schestowitz many abortions might be fetuses that would never survive as babies [22:54] schestowitz or have severe defects [22:54] DaemonFC[m] Jews are evil monsters who are robbing us blind with the banks and they're also God's chosen people who we need to send billions of dollars to, and gee wouldn't it be nice to tour the Holy Land. [22:54] schestowitz if that's still P-C term to use [22:54] DaemonFC[m] Maybe a stop over to the abortion clinic/dispensary/gay bar. [22:55] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: the theory and the paradox goes like this: [22:55] schestowitz "Jews are scum and vastly inferior" [22:55] schestowitz "but they also control everything" [22:55] schestowitz if they're vastly inferior and all, the latter cannot follow [22:55] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, how does that work? [22:56] schestowitz so the suggestions go like, must be inferiority complex [22:56] DaemonFC[m] And if they've really managed to control things so tightly that it's interfering with the person's life, then they're diabolical but the person making the accusation would be of inferior intellect at least. [22:56] schestowitz there are all those "too few jews in the NBA" [22:57] schestowitz which is to highlight the idea that "too many jewish bankers" stuff is BS [22:57] schestowitz but you're talking about crowds like GAB and Parler here [22:57] DaemonFC[m] "too many jewish lawyers" too [22:57] schestowitz they also believe lots of other nonsense [22:57] DaemonFC[m] I've hired three lawyers in the last two years and none of them were Jews. [22:57] DaemonFC[m] How does that work? [22:58] schestowitz if you receive higher edu, you would work as something that pays better [22:58] schestowitz maybe they should also say "too many blacks working in [manual labour job]" [22:58] DaemonFC[m] If they can make my case in court I really don't give a damn about anything else. [22:59] schestowitz but that does not seem to bother that crowd [22:59] schestowitz they just want to push down others, based on identity politics [22:59] schestowitz watch white cops meeting a black in a Mercedes [22:59] schestowitz they lose their larbles [22:59] schestowitz marbles [22:59] schestowitz "he rides a better cars than me... AND HE's BLACK! FUCK >THIS< SHIT!" [22:59] schestowitz and then they brutalise them ● Jan 15 [23:00] MinceR someone found worse cars than mercedes? :> [23:00] schestowitz glorified brand and status symbol [23:00] schestowitz some use tesla for greenwashing [23:00] schestowitz and to seem "smart' [23:00] schestowitz "EV [23:00] schestowitz they made a buzzword for it [23:00] *siel has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [23:01] schestowitz AV [23:01] schestowitz "autonmous" [23:01] schestowitz coming soon: autonmous football [23:01] *siel (~siel@unaffiliated/motley) has joined #techrights [23:01] schestowitz watch robots kicking about.. [23:01] MinceR autonomous cockroach [23:04] CrystalMath again, another really horrible idea [23:04] *amreo[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [23:04] CrystalMath more computers in cars = the government disabling them remotely [23:04] schestowitz This one does show some of the scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDoIigsxEg [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Egypt (Assassination of President Sadat), The Palestinians In Lebanon, Lebanon: The Missile Crisis - YouTube [23:04] schestowitz but on television they once showed the actual hit, like in JFK [23:05] schestowitz youtube is rewriting history [23:05] schestowitz by removing videos that help better understand it [23:05] schestowitz US hegemony in action [23:05] schestowitz we "protect" you from seeing what happened [23:05] schestowitz if there's no gore, then too [23:05] schestowitz he just falls off when shot, iirc [23:05] schestowitz that, in turn, can lead to more theories [23:06] MinceR you're lucky if they settle for just disabling them remotely [23:06] schestowitz like "x did not get shot", could "not find evidence" [23:06] MinceR and not, say, running them into someone they want dead [23:06] schestowitz Google is disgusting [23:06] schestowitz an employs increasingly disgusting people [23:06] schestowitz maybe not the case 20 years ago [23:08] schestowitz Google employs power-hungry people [23:08] schestowitz who buckle for those in power to share that power [23:08] CrystalMath MinceR: that too [23:09] CrystalMath i just wasn't creative enough [23:09] schestowitz USTube [23:09] schestowitz You=US [23:11] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146534 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:13] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 45 mins: IPFS upstream: [23:15] techrights-bot OSS Leftovers and Mostly #Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146535 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSS Leftovers and Mostly Openwashing | Tux Machines [23:15] psydroid are people who go to work for Google disgusting or do they become disgusting over time? did they ever have morals in the first place or do innately immoral people go to work there? [23:16] psydroid this is what I sometimes ask myself [23:16] MinceR or perhaps they merely changed their hiring practices [23:16] MinceR also, they attract different sorts of people since they gave up the whole "don't be evil" thing [23:16] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146536 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:17] schestowitz [23:15] are people who go to work for Google disgusting or do they become disgusting over time? did they ever have morals in the first place or do innately immoral people go to work there? [23:17] schestowitz it's more intricate, I think [23:17] schestowitz Google doesn't rely on job applications [23:17] schestowitz it hunts people [23:17] schestowitz if they suit their cult [23:17] schestowitz not people who form unions and blow whistles [23:18] schestowitz they hired 'by mistake' 'too many' of those [23:18] schestowitz so they won't consider people who are sceptical of authority [23:18] psydroid a friend of mine refused a job at Google he got offered straight out of university, probably because he saw what I couldn't see until a few years ago [23:18] schestowitz which year [23:18] schestowitz they tried to hire me thrice [23:19] schestowitz way back when I was a student [23:19] psydroid I think it was 2011/2 [23:19] schestowitz it was already suffering from bad image by then [23:19] schestowitz 2000 it was hip [23:20] schestowitz The Google of Brin and Meyer etc. [23:20] schestowitz early and humble beginnings [23:20] schestowitz scholars [23:20] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [23:21] schestowitz not some evil pentagon thing with "diversity" 'front end' to disguise and obscure all this [23:21] *ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights [23:26] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146537 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/15/#latest [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:26] *amreo[m] (amreomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ouohhregkfhmspyk) has joined #techrights [23:28] techrights-bot The End of ZaReason CentOS Linux 8 End of Life Moved from 2029 to 2021, Stream Takes Over New CentOS Replacement Lineups Spring Up Raspberry Pi OS Updates Out Experimental Elementary OS on the Rasp [23:30] schestowitz top photo [23:30] schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Covid-19 in the UK: How many coronavirus cases are there in your area? - BBC News [23:30] schestowitz typical pfizer marketing [23:30] schestowitz old lady getting jab from young nurse [23:30] schestowitz as if that alone can give hope [23:30] schestowitz 1280 more deaths [23:35] schestowitz so now about 4% of the British population received just a first doze [23:35] schestowitz expensive [23:35] schestowitz and we know who profits from it [23:35] schestowitz we don't even know those doses work [23:35] schestowitz or to what extent [23:35] schestowitz and too few received them [23:35] schestowitz could be money down the drain [23:35] schestowitz https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [23:37] techrights-bot Only about 4% of the British population received just a >first< "dose" of the #clinicalTrials (expensive, we PAY to be experimented on) and we know who profits from it; we >still< don't even know those doses work or to what extent (never mind risks); could be money down the drain https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [23:40] DaemonFC[m] GM [23:40] techrights-bot "Heres your report of what has happened in Fedora this week." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-program-update-2021-02/ #fedora #ibm #redhat [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora program update: 2021-02 Fedora Community Blog [23:41] techrights-bot "super accessible since you can play it on pretty much anything that can run some simple graphics in a browser window." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/familiarsio-is-a-mmo-monster-catching-game-where-the-creaturs-have-permadeath [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Familiars.io is a MMO monster catching game where the creatures have permadeath | GamingOnLinux [23:42] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: who owns Mercedes now? [23:42] DaemonFC[m] Contemptible people like mjg59 who the FSF gave a Free Software Award. They pass them out like Nobel Peace prizes, which go to terrorists and warmongers. The FSF hands awards to people who set back Free Software by years and decades. [23:42] schestowitz Daimler [23:42] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mercedes-Benz - Wikipedia [23:42] DaemonFC[m] Who legitimize DRM and people being totally locked out of their computers. [23:43] schestowitz FSF gave an award to de Icaza (Microsoft) [23:43] schestowitz and to re Raadt, who reciprocated by attacking RMS [23:43] schestowitz They keep attacking RMS [23:43] schestowitz he staffed the FSF poorly , imho [23:43] schestowitz I will do some articles about it in the weekend [23:44] DaemonFC[m] At least Theo de Raadt's projects produce Free Software. [23:44] schestowitz FSF is a basketcase of sorts [23:44] DaemonFC[m] Not blobs that have to be signed by Microshit to make your computer start up. [23:44] schestowitz and a cautionary take in how NOT to run such an org [23:44] DaemonFC[m] A system that's so flaky that if you install Ubuntu and Fedora in the wrong order, Fedora won't boot. [23:45] schestowitz they should rename shim "SHIT" [23:45] schestowitz MinceR: ^ [23:45] schestowitz because it enables shit [23:45] schestowitz on the first or thousandth milisecond you turn on the machine [23:45] MinceR :> [23:45] MinceR not specific enough [23:45] schestowitz turn computer on [23:45] schestowitz "Microsoft, is THIS OK?" [23:45] schestowitz "pretty please?" [23:46] MinceR the alleged computer [23:46] schestowitz box [23:46] schestowitz better name [23:46] DaemonFC[m] Garret isn't just a traitor like Icaza, or a troll like Theo (who actually does produce Free Software). He's a pretentious asshole as well. [23:46] schestowitz you are boxed [23:46] DaemonFC[m] Everyone else on the list of people who got a FSF award at least only damaged the community and the cause in a single way. [23:46] schestowitz An hour ago: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/celebrating-the-fsf2019s-35th-anniversary-stories-from-the-licensing-and-compliance-lab [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Celebrating the FSFs 35th anniversary: Stories from the Licensing and Compliance Lab Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [23:47] techrights-bot FSF: "In 1985, in the GNU Manifesto, FSF founder Richard Stallman (RMS) wrote"https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/celebrating-the-fsf2019s-35th-anniversary-stories-from-the-licensing-and-compliance-lab [23:48] DaemonFC[m] They haven't completely erased him yet? [23:48] CrystalMath schestowitz: btw, The_Donald people have created a no-politics zone called communities.win [23:48] techrights-bot #microsoftTim talks to #drupal founder https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/15/20_years_of_drupal/ see http://techrights.org/2008/11/09/bribe-for-vista-7-review/ [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 20 years of Drupal: Founder Dries Buytaert on API first, the end of breaking compatibility, and JavaScript bloat The Register [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tim Anderson Received Bribe for Vista 7 Review | Techrights [23:48] CrystalMath schestowitz: they seem to be focusing more on getting revenge on big tech than anything trump-related [23:48] CrystalMath so i reiterate: golden opportunity [23:49] CrystalMath they're even promoting mastodon.social [23:49] CrystalMath which is not free speech [23:49] DaemonFC[m] I was listening to Christian news on the radio. [23:49] CrystalMath just to get back at big tech [23:49] CrystalMath this is perfect for the free software movement [23:49] DaemonFC[m] They are furious at tech companies right now and the host even lied about what Section 230 is. [23:49] MinceR i'm not sure about this being "perfect" [23:49] CrystalMath exactly, we have the same enemies now [23:50] MinceR temporarily [23:50] CrystalMath i didn't say the opportunity can't slip [23:50] MinceR and dump's followers have proven themselves to be easily duped [23:50] DaemonFC[m] Until their focus turns to something else. [23:50] DaemonFC[m] They'll rant and rave about it and in 4 years they'll have forgotten all about this when absolutely nothing changes. [23:50] MinceR even the reasons for having those particular enemies are different [23:51] techrights-bot Linus #Torvalds Decides To Land #NVIDIA RTX 30 "Ampere" Support In Linux 5.11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146538 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Decides To Land NVIDIA RTX 30 "Ampere" Support In Linux 5.11 | Tux Machines [23:51] CrystalMath MinceR: not really, after all, censorship is bad to us too [23:51] MinceR CrystalMath: to us, censorship practiced by his vladness is also bad [23:51] DaemonFC[m] They don't like the tech companies because insane conspiracy theories that are more dangerous to Americans than ISIS is are being "canceled". [23:52] DaemonFC[m] And we don't like them because they're the surveillance state and require a non-Free platform. [23:52] MinceR CrystalMath: and to us, dumbFuckBook and cambridge analytica helping the Moscovian Candidate dupe people is also bad [23:52] techrights-bot Converting from #CentOS Linux 8 to second-class #IBM experiment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba2ytp_8x7s [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Converting from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream - YouTube [23:52] MinceR they don't like the tech companies because they were bitten by them once [23:52] CrystalMath MinceR: there's no way even one of these people thinks facebook helped Trump [23:53] MinceR that's part of the problem [23:53] CrystalMath and if they did, i suggest we hide that fact, so that facebook remains their target [23:53] DaemonFC[m] If 230 gets repealed, what happens is MORE censorship. [23:53] MinceR lol [23:53] MinceR i'll just stay away from them [23:53] DaemonFC[m] Because if someone posts some crazy talk that leads to violence, then the company gets sued. [23:53] CrystalMath DaemonFC[m]: some of them are aware of that [23:53] techrights-bot #Debian Michael Prokop: Revisiting 2020 https://michael-prokop.at/blog/2021/01/16/revisiting-2020/ #gnu #linux [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michael-prokop.at | mikas blog Blog Archive Revisiting 2020 [23:54] DaemonFC[m] I'm absolutely not in favor of Section 230 getting repealed because it's also going to increase calls to get rid of the DMCA safe harbor clause as well. [23:54] CrystalMath i think maybe section 230 needs some changes [23:54] CrystalMath but not a full repeal [23:55] DaemonFC[m] Once that's gone, companies will go out of their way to block access to anything they think may be infringing. You think they police files based on hash values NOW..... [23:55] CrystalMath i would have it state than only an unmoderated website is safe from what its users post [23:55] CrystalMath that would then turn it around [23:55] CrystalMath twitter would be forced to stop moderating [23:55] techrights-bot "Among the easily installable and ad-free apps within the #PureOS store is Dictionary. This is a simple tool that lets you search through numerous online or local dictionaries and translation sources." https://puri.sm/posts/app-spotlight-dictionary/ #gnu #linux [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | App Spotlight: Dictionary Purism [23:55] CrystalMath or face charges for everything they have illegal [23:55] DaemonFC[m] Pretty much the entire web will need to be replaced at this point. [23:55] MinceR CrystalMath: that would probably get turned into something where all users _must_ provide ID [23:56] MinceR and they'd go after the users for everything they say [23:56] CrystalMath MinceR: i don't see why? [23:57] MinceR because people are going to be butthurt about offensive speech and privacy violations [23:57] techrights-bot Kind reminder: whatever "followers" you have in #twitter one day they will all be lost, either because they sign off or the site goes offline for good (which will happen, it's just a question of when). Same for #facebook #youtube etc. [23:57] DaemonFC[m] Yes, and it would be interesting to see how many people sign up for Fuckerberg book and Shitter when it demands their state ID or driver's license and their social security card. [23:58] CrystalMath MinceR: they already are [23:58] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: This Galaxy S20 has been the most irritating phone ever. [23:58] DaemonFC[m] It constantly spams your notifications to sign up for Cloud shit. [23:58] MinceR CrystalMath: and that's why there would be a push to be able to punish someone for it [23:58] techrights-bot Corporatists and corporate writers will always be paid vastly more than public interest advocates and real journalists. The salaries should be the opposite of credibility badges. Who pays? And why? [23:58] MinceR DaemonFC[m]: samsung phones really went to shit since samsung decided to copy crApple, didn't they? [23:58] CrystalMath MinceR: so, with section 230 no longer protecting the company, they could go after the company [23:59] CrystalMath close them down [23:59] MinceR CrystalMath: then nobody would run a service letting users post [23:59] MinceR the ability to comment has already disappeared from many sites [23:59] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [23:59] CrystalMath really?