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● Feb 15
[00:00]	MinceR	the Great Big Anti-Communist Heroes also introduced some Totally Not Communist Price Controls, and that too, predictably, caused prices to increase
[00:01]	MinceR	and as long as the typical oxygen thief only hears the government's lies, they'll keep supporting the government
[00:01]	IsambardPrince	Diocletian's Edict on Maximum Prices
[00:01]	IsambardPrince	Did orban carve it into stone?
[00:02]	MinceR	no, that's physical work
[00:02]	MinceR	he doesn't do work
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_on_Maximum_Prices
[00:02]	TR Bot	 Edict on Maximum Prices - Wikipedia
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, The Edict also came with currency debasement.
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	At the time they changed the coinage from like half gold to like 1% silver.
[00:03]	IsambardPrince	They swore it was still worth the same amount.
[00:03]	IsambardPrince	The more things change... Right?
[00:03]	MinceR	yeah
[00:05]	IsambardPrince	The Environmental Protection Agency is now tweeting about the future of AI.
[00:05]	IsambardPrince	#Fucked
[00:07]	IsambardPrince	Then another tweet about clean air, land, and water. You know, when you run a data center off a big smoking coal plant you get lots of clean air, land, and water, right?
[00:08]	nobody	modern coal power plants got exhaust gas treatment installations though.
[00:08]	IsambardPrince	It's too bad the US doesn't have modern coal plants.
[00:09]	IsambardPrince	We have ones leftover from the 1950s even, which have been granted "waivers" from the more stringent emissions rules from 1990.
[00:09]	IsambardPrince	They spew out all sorts of toxic shit that the Japanese ones don't, and they get less than half as much power output from a given volume of coal.
[00:09]	IsambardPrince	:)
[00:10]	IsambardPrince	The only way it would be worse is if you had a coal plant leftover from the Soviet Union that was still running, probably.
[00:10]	nobody	AfD wants their "nuclear power" "cheap", add to this
[00:10]	IsambardPrince	if we can't figure out how to run energy production, we should outsource it to the Japanese.
[00:11]	IsambardPrince	The Japanese put a lot of effort into efficiency with the power plants.
[00:11]	nobody	well, in a way you do IsambardPrince, because most commodity goods are "made in china" with coal burned there to ship the goods to USA and wherever else
[00:11]	IsambardPrince	Because they have to import their coal, which makes it exorbitantly expensive.
[00:12]	IsambardPrince	So it compels them to make the most of what they import.
[00:12]	nobody	including "solar panels", a ton of coal burned each, that's "renewable" and "environmentally friendly"
[00:12]	IsambardPrince	The Democrats and the Green New Scam.
[00:12]	IsambardPrince	They built Ivanpah just to shut it down after 11 years.
[00:12]	IsambardPrince	Look that up.
[00:12]	nobody	"renewable" is the MOST excessive subsidy fraud and scam in human economic history, indeed
[00:12]	IsambardPrince	A solar collector tower in the desert.
[00:13]	nobody	the entire "climate" dispute is total FAKE, with anyone involved
[00:14]	nobody	the "climate policies" that were implemented by our "environementalists" in germany had the complete opposite effect of environmental protection
[00:15]	nobody	we are burning coal at record amnounts, record _amounts_ of combustion engines on the roads
[00:15]	nobody	record amounts of electronics waste
[00:15]	nobody	the "carbon tax" subsidizes those who waste most energy and resources, and sanctions those who produce most effectively with least amount of energy and resources wasted
[00:16]	nobody	then, they're confusing earnings with spendings, for this scam to flourish, the more energy that got wasted, the better to cash in "carbon tax"
[00:17]	IsambardPrince	https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-alaska-denali/2025/02/13/id/1199063/
[00:17]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-alaska-denali/2025/02/13/id/1199063/ )
[00:17]	nobody	wasting as much energy as possible, that's considered "productive" by our "labor unions" and their mouth pieces (Pistorius)
[00:17]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, A US Senator from Alaska introduced a bill to rename "Mount McKinley" to Denali again. Trump renamed it by executive order last month.
[00:18]	IsambardPrince	We have a 4 billion year old mountain being called McKinley or Denali now depending on the week.
[00:18]	IsambardPrince	:D
[00:18]	MinceR	15 010536 < IsambardPrince> The Environmental Protection Agency is now tweeting about the future of AI.
[00:19]	MinceR	future general AI could save the environment by exterminating humanity
[00:19]	IsambardPrince	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/14/russian-drone-detonates-on-chornobyl-nuclear-plant-containment-shell
[00:19]	TR Bot	 Russian drone detonates on Chornobyl nuclear plant containment shell | Ukraine | The Guardian
[00:19]	MinceR	and yeah, you have a mountain called Denali that authoritarian colonists want to rename after one of their own
[00:20]	MinceR	also, i've heard orange mussolini renamed the only bay he knows about
[00:20]	MinceR	i guess his ignorance saved the state a lot of money
[00:32]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Governor Pritzker responded by issuing a proclamation that Lake Michigan is now Lake Illinois.
[00:32]	IsambardPrince	He said he sent a copy to Google "so they can update their maps".
[00:33]	MinceR	lol
[00:34]	MinceR	that's a weird way to spell Lake America
[00:34]	IsambardPrince	https://wgntv.com/news/national/proposed-bill-looks-to-make-president-trumps-birthday-a-federal-holiday/
[00:34]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://wgntv.com/news/national/proposed-bill-looks-to-make-president-trumps-birthday-a-federal-holiday/ )
[00:34]	IsambardPrince	No, just, no.
[00:34]	MinceR	even though it would be a really simple system
[00:34]	MinceR	every lake in nazi america is called Lake America
[00:34]	MinceR	every gulf on its coastline is Gulf of America
[00:34]	MinceR	and so on
[00:35]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Now they want to make a federal holiday for Dear Leader.
[00:35]	IsambardPrince	While he's still in office.
[00:35]	IsambardPrince	To sign it himself.
[00:35]	MinceR	and sure, America Bay is distinct from America Sound, but it's more difficult to tell America Bay apart from America Bay
[00:35]	MinceR	or America Sound from America Sound
[00:36]	MinceR	IsambardPrince: how's the new face on mount rushmore coming along?
[00:36]	MinceR	maybe they could also replace the face on the statue of liberty
[00:36]	MinceR	maybe call it the Statue of Oppression from now on
[00:37]	IsambardPrince	LOL
[00:38]	MinceR	also paint the whole thing orange
[00:38]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, They closed the Washington Monument.
[00:38]	IsambardPrince	They need to grind it down by about 83% or so and reopen it as Trump's.
[00:38]	IsambardPrince	;)
[00:39]	MinceR	rotfl
[00:55]	IsambardPrince	Now I know what you're thinking...
[00:56]	IsambardPrince	Doesn't one have to be dead to get a federal holiday and a monument?
[00:56]	IsambardPrince	Well, you know what they say....
[00:56]	IsambardPrince	Optimism.
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[00:57]	MinceR	it could be arranged
[00:57]	IsambardPrince	The 95% brain clog from the cholesterol has left him just lucid enough to be the hand that signs Musk's orders.
[00:57]	IsambardPrince	The other 5% on the progress bar is always the worst part. It gets stuck there for a while.
[00:57]	MinceR	if Joe I wasn't such a pussy, he would have taken care of it before handing over the crown
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● Feb 15
[01:05]	nobody	seems not all of the social media accounts of the afghan body builder vanished
[01:05]	nobody	he was known as "afg boy" afghan boy, who established a living as body guard, entrance guard, bouncer
[01:06]	nobody	in city of munich, for the nobility of rich and their luxury outlets
[01:07]	nobody	i mean, i know the typical social surrounding of this, in another bavarian city
[01:07]	nobody	the typical class society
[01:07]	nobody	of posers
[01:08]	nobody	surroudning soccer sports betting bars, fitness studios, gambling slot machines, multi cultural migrant 
[01:08]	nobody	this guy was perfectly "integrated into society" btw.; exactly what party politics agitate for
[01:08]	nobody	although police could find a few references to his religious background
[01:09]	nobody	most of this is overshadowed by particular deficiencies of intellect
[01:10]	nobody	i wouldn't want to judge, but i do know this particular social surrounding
[01:10]	nobody	doesn't make a big difference either, if it was some medics (the "saudi feminist" psychiatrist who smashed a car into christmas market few weeks ago)
[01:10]	nobody	there's a commonality among them, shallowness
[01:11]	nobody	the fact some of those immigrants got attracted by AfD is merely opportunisitc
[01:12]	nobody	"doner kebap is too expensive, close the borders, deport migrants", says the migrant... just some speculation and theory
[01:14]	nobody	"we are tax payers"
[01:15]	nobody	anyway, what remains to be investigated, exactly what had provoked,escalated,triggered this guy to smash a car into labor union protesters
[01:17]	nobody	the body builder himself had not received an order to leave germany back to afghanistan to rebuild his _own_ country
[01:17]	nobody	maybe some of his brothers did, but police said he wasn't connected to any "islamist" group
[01:20]	nobody	even AfD had _not_ sent such a guy back to his homeland, in fact they had welcomed such as a "tax payer"
[01:30]	nobody	i suspect he was gaslighted into terror, but police reported they couldn't have found evidence for it
[01:31]	nobody	if it was done "online" in "social media", it's even more challenging, to identify the origin of any psyop
[01:31]	IsambardPrince	https://wgntv.com/hill-politics/house-republicans-plot-impeachment-against-judges-blocking-trump-doge/
[01:31]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://wgntv.com/hill-politics/house-republicans-plot-impeachment-against-judges-blocking-trump-doge/ )
[01:31]	IsambardPrince	The Republicans plan to impeach judges that rule against Trump.
[01:31]	IsambardPrince	They'd need 17 Democrats in the Senate to go along with it.
[01:31]	MinceR	there are no Republicans
[01:33]	IsambardPrince	I don't know why they'd do this.
[01:33]	IsambardPrince	If they walk the articles over to the Senate, they have to go into an impeachment trial on each judge that could eat up two weeks.
[01:33]	IsambardPrince	Do they want to waste that much Senate floor time?
[01:35]	IsambardPrince	Impeachment is easy. It happens a lot. But removal is a different story.
[01:40]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Someone said they had all their Chase accounts slammed shut after they bought crypto on coinbase.
[01:40]	IsambardPrince	I replied, "Lots of bad things happen with Chase cards. I remember one guy paying for a friend's bankruptcy lawyer and it wasn't even his bankruptcy, with a Chase debit card. Then Chase slammed all of his accounts shut and mailed him a check for his account balance as soon as the word "bankruptcy" appeared on his statement in that transaction."
[01:45]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, There's a perfectly good lake in Florida.
[01:46]	IsambardPrince	Just ripe for the pickings, and we can call it Lake Americachobee.
[01:46]	MinceR	lol
[01:46]	MinceR	you mean Lake America
[01:46]	MinceR	but better hurry up, because it won't be there for long
[01:46]	MinceR	it will just become part of the American Ocean
[01:46]	IsambardPrince	Because they want to drain the swamps?
[01:46]	IsambardPrince	:D
[01:46]	MinceR	(not to be confused with the American Ocean, which is on the other side of America.)
[01:47]	MinceR	no, because most of Florida will be under water
[01:47]	MinceR	it's quite the opposite of draining the swamps
[01:47]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, We're going to rename Hudson Bay too when we expand into Canada.
[01:47]	MinceR	naturally
[01:47]	IsambardPrince	We'll inform Google and threaten to make them donate to the Presidential Library.
[01:47]	MinceR	though i'm not seeing the reason for the holdup
[01:48]	MinceR	declaring that certain countries are now part of your country is the new cool thing
[01:48]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, It's fun watching Trudeau squirm.
[01:48]	IsambardPrince	Making him wonder if we're fucking with him or not.
[01:48]	IsambardPrince	Then it will be our land, and his grave.
[01:48]	IsambardPrince	And he'll say curse your sudden yet inevitable betrayal!
[01:48]	IsambardPrince	And Trump will say "Mine is an evil laugh!"
[01:49]	MinceR	:>
[01:49]	IsambardPrince	And then Brandon will get his corrected birth certificate.
[01:49]	IsambardPrince	And sent to the reeducation camp.
[01:49]	IsambardPrince	With nobody to complain to.
[01:50]	IsambardPrince	So many lakes to rename to Lake America.
[01:50]	IsambardPrince	We'll also have to do something about Nunavut because how do you even say it. It's easier to rename it than find out.
[01:51]	IsambardPrince	I'm thinking "America".
[01:51]	IsambardPrince	And then once we're up there anyway.
[01:51]	MinceR	lol
[01:51]	IsambardPrince	It can now and forever be called.
[01:51]	IsambardPrince	The American Pole.
[01:51]	MinceR	the American Pole of Planet America
[01:52]	MinceR	just to be more specific
[01:52]	IsambardPrince	The South Pole too as soon as we pull out of the Antarctic treaty and see if we can do fracking there.
[01:52]	MinceR	or, more accurately, America 3
[01:52]	MinceR	as in, the 3rd planet orbiting the star called America.
[01:52]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Then we're all living in America.
[01:52]	IsambardPrince	Coca Cola. Sometimes war.
[01:52]	MinceR	:>
[01:53]	MinceR	our compasses will let you know whether you're facing the American Pole or the American Pole. it will be so aladeen!
[01:53]	IsambardPrince	Magnetic north is drifting towards Russia anyway.
[01:53]	IsambardPrince	Or should I say, America.
[01:53]	IsambardPrince	Trump says he wants to get rid of nuclear weapons.
[01:54]	IsambardPrince	That seems like an odd statement coming from him.
[01:54]	MinceR	he could fire them all off at muscovy and communist china
[01:54]	IsambardPrince	I guess Elon doesn't like paying for those either.
[01:54]	MinceR	maybe also at north korea
[01:54]	MinceR	it would certainly do the job.
[01:54]	IsambardPrince	$800 billion dollars to maintain them over the next 15 years.
[01:54]	nobody	IsambardPrince: i think they might not have sufficient control, proliferation concerns
[01:54]	nobody	remember the german nuclear pebble scandal? (Atomkugel-Skandal)?
[01:55]	nobody	a german nuclear research reactor, produced rather many, with excess amounts of nuclear waste
[01:55]	nobody	germans sent an inquiry to washington, if that was of any proliferation concern, and nuclear waste rather be exported from germany to usa
[01:56]	nobody	washington repsonded, meh, nope, no problem, keep the nuclear "waste" for yourself, that was some atomic bomb pebbles
[01:56]	nobody	and a few accounting issues with those, where these had vanished
[01:57]	nobody	IsambardPrince: it's the "wording" almost, instead problems with proliferation, they rather call it disarmament
[01:58]	nobody	those $800 billion are nuclear waste disposal, you know, it's "cheap"
[01:59]	nobody	decomissioning nuclear power reactors is extremely expensive too, even _without_ a nuclear shutdown that germany did
[01:59]	nobody	occasionally one or another facility must be decomissioned and waste disposed safely, for thousands of years
● Feb 15
[02:00]	nobody	in germany our politicians called it "nuclear shutdown", that is _civilian_ nuclear operation is illegal now
[02:00]	IsambardPrince	https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/1il8178/wife_cried_today/
[02:00]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[02:00]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz-pi, Microsoft-related.
[02:00]	nobody	but the waste remains, and military stockpiles too, including those from Trumpistan
[02:00]	IsambardPrince	r/USCIS
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	6 days ago
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	CuriousRabbitIsALion
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	Wife Cried Today
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	I-130 (Family/Consular processing)
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	We filed end of November 2023--married Sep 2023. I'm USC and wife is Pakistani. We talk almost daily via video call and I'm barely handling it. It's easier for me since I work a very demanding job that takes a lot of my focus but my wife is taking online classes and has more time to reflect. Today she just broke down suddenly and it frigging killed me. I feel so helpless. I want to visit her but taking time off right now would be 
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	career suicide especially when so many tech companies are doing layoffs--for context I'm a senior sde at Microsoft and our product is really struggling. I feel so helpless in this situation. Why the hell are spousal applications multi year long when it directly impacts Americans from literally starting their lives. Please help me understand why we aren't protesting these absurd times for SPOUSES for God's sake! Can we petition Trump 
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	to look into this considering his wife also went through a similar process?
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	----
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	Microsoft SDE...product really struggling...would be  "career suicide" to take time off to go see his wife.
[02:01]	IsambardPrince	Work-life balance and other fictions.
[02:02]	IsambardPrince	That pretty much confirms that it's well known inside Microsoft that they'll throw you out like garbage if they think you're not devoting every waking minute to them, and they still might even if you are.
[02:06]	MinceR	i've seen the term "work/meeting/daydreaming about work balance"
[02:07]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I wonder what product he's talking about that's on the verge of failure.
[02:08]	MinceR	i don't know, all the products "developed" at MICROS~1 that i had the misfortune of using were failures
[02:08]	MinceR	in the engineering sense
[02:10]	IsambardPrince	They don't care about that. They care about people paying to use them or being threatened with lawyers for using something else, so they don't.
[02:10]	IsambardPrince	They were Trump before it was cool.
[02:10]	IsambardPrince	:D
[02:10]	MinceR	yeah
[02:24]	IsambardPrince	https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/14/trump-media-djt-earnings-report-2024.html
[02:24]	TR Bot	 Trump Media (DJT) earnings report 2024
[02:25]	IsambardPrince	$400 million in losses.
[02:25]	IsambardPrince	Easily offset. Most of those losses were realized by the MAGAtards.
[02:25]	IsambardPrince	The rest, well, nothing a donation from CNBC for reporting this couldn't fix. To the Presidential Library, of course.
[02:29]	MinceR	:>
[02:29]	MinceR	i really hope that presidential library's going to be shaped like lump's head
[02:30]	MinceR	and orange.
[02:30]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, He heard that Obama's library was attached to a BBC, you know......Big Black College.
[02:30]	MinceR	:>
[02:30]	IsambardPrince	And of course now he wants his to be bigger, and the media (and Mexico maybe) will pay for it.
[02:31]	MinceR	he's no longer confident he can just make Mexico pay for it?
[02:31]	MinceR	what, is he a loser now?
[02:31]	IsambardPrince	"Unlike Meta
[02:31]	IsambardPrince	 and other social media companies, Trump Media management said in the filing they do not believe in using traditional metrics such as the number of active users or average revenue per user. Doing so could potentially divert its focus from strategic evaluation with respect to the progress and growth of its business, according to the filing."
[02:31]	IsambardPrince	---
[02:32]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, We don't need metrics around here. We just need you to know it's beautiful, and amazing, some would say the best.
[02:32]	MinceR	:>
[02:33]	MinceR	all you need is success propaganda
[02:33]	MinceR	like in orbanistan
[02:33]	MinceR	the gypsy king paved the whole way, all the west needs to do is follow
[02:33]	MinceR	and then they, too, could be failed, stinking wrecks like orbanistan!
[02:35]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, You know that with Bank of America's private client, if you deposit $50,001 or more and keep it there, they'll still stick you in the eye on interest and charge you a fee.
[02:35]	IsambardPrince	:D
[02:35]	IsambardPrince	The news sez Warren Buffett dumped more BofA shares.
[02:35]	MinceR	BofA deez shares
[02:35]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, their credit cards are a joke, their bank accounts are a joke, their mortgage division is a joke.
[02:36]	IsambardPrince	Their overhead is horrible.
[02:37]	IsambardPrince	0.01% interest and $8 monthly fee.
[02:37]	IsambardPrince	On a Savings Account.
[02:38]	IsambardPrince	https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/14/trump-immigration-eric-adams-doj-danielle-sassoon.html
[02:38]	TR Bot	 Trump border czar warns New York Mayor Eric Adams on immigration agreement
[02:38]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Eric Adams let ICE into the jail in New York City.
[02:38]	IsambardPrince	In return, Trump had the DoJ drop the public corruption charges.
[02:39]	MinceR	ah, yes, "law and order", as the "republicans" imagine it
[02:40]	IsambardPrince	"Adams promise Thursday to sign an executive order that would permit federal authorities to enter Rikers came just hours after the stunning resignations of six top Department of Justice prosecutors. The prosecutors said they quit rather than carry out a DOJ officials orders that they dismiss criminal corruption charges filed against the mayor."
[02:40]	MinceR	as in, "ignore the law, do whatever the fuck you feel like doing, and order people around"
[02:40]	MinceR	the human species can not go extinct soon enough.
[02:40]	IsambardPrince	The City Council could still impeach him. Or the New York legislature.
[02:40]	IsambardPrince	New York could file its own corruption charges.
[02:41]	IsambardPrince	"In exchange for Adams bribery case being dropped by federal prosecutors, the mayor would allow the Trump administration to carry out immigration enforcement actions in New York City, Sassoon wrote in a letter to Bondi."
[02:42]	IsambardPrince	"Critics of Boves order have warned that by seeking to dismiss the criminal case against Adams without prejudice, meaning that the criminal charges can be refiled at any time, the DOJ is effectively putting the mayor under its thumb.
[02:42]	IsambardPrince	If the prospect of a revived criminal case against Adams is constantly hanging over the mayors head, his ability to act independently, or refuse to do the presidents bidding, would be severely compromised, they say."
[02:42]	IsambardPrince	A corrupt mayor that they control from the White House.
[02:42]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, it's time to impeach this mayor.
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[02:52]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, DOGE got rid of the "non-binary" option on the Federal Aid for Students Application.
[02:53]	IsambardPrince	It ended up on the doge.gov site.
[02:53]	MinceR	i guess if someone lies to them about being male or female, that makes the nazis happy
[02:53]	IsambardPrince	How does this save money?
[02:53]	MinceR	it doesn't
[02:53]	MinceR	it's wanking
[02:53]	MinceR	though i don't know why'd they even be interested in sex.gender
[02:53]	MinceR	s/\./,/
[02:54]	MinceR	do students receive money with their genitals?
[02:54]	MinceR	or do they spend money with their genitals?
[02:54]	MinceR	removing the question could have saved money, but i'm sure the nazis wouldn't have liked that
[02:54]	MinceR	because, as usual, they don't actually give a single fuck about a "small government" or "efficiency"
[02:54]	IsambardPrince	https://www.ed.gov/media/document/dear-colleague-letter-sffa-v-harvard-109506.pdf
[02:55]	MinceR	they care about oppressing people and especially about abusing the state to enforce religious rules on them
[02:56]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, The DoE says that white and "Asian" people have been unfairly discriminated against with DEI.
[02:56]	MinceR	that's probably true
[02:57]	MinceR	it was part of what DIE was for, after all
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	"Department of Government Efficiency
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	@DOGE
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	1h
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	In the last 48 hours, the Department of Education terminated 70 DEI training grants totaling $373M.
[02:59]	IsambardPrince	One trained teachers to engage in ongoing learning and self-reflection to confront their own biases and racism, and develop asset-based anti-racist mindsets."
[02:59]	MinceR	and so, once again, the pendulum swings the other way
[02:59]	MinceR	because hardly anyone is non-racist
[02:59]	MinceR	they either want to promote whites or exterminate whites
● Feb 15
[03:00]	MinceR	because humans are the worst
[03:02]	IsambardPrince	https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hozpifuvbqh2di2e5znzjfu7/post/3li5kak7yqc25
[03:02]	TR Bot	 @urikikaski.bsky.social on Bluesky
[03:24]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, 
[03:24]	IsambardPrince	We economists don't know much, but we do know how to create a shortage. If you want to create a shortage of tomatoes, for example, just pass a law that retailers can't sell tomatoes for more than two cents per pound. Instantly you'll have a tomato shortage. It's the same with oil or gas.
[03:24]	IsambardPrince	 Milton Friedman
[03:24]	IsambardPrince	:)
[03:25]	IsambardPrince	Might want to mail a copy of some of Friedman's stuff to the Gypsy King.
[03:25]	IsambardPrince	Do you suppose someone will have to teach him to read first?
[03:26]	MinceR	i'm not sure if it's even possible to teach him to read
[03:26]	MinceR	they couldn't teach him to speak english for george soros' money, after all
[03:26]	MinceR	and he was young back then
[03:27]	IsambardPrince	https://kyivindependent.com/russian-government-allows-companies-not-to-modernize-power-plants-due-to-lack-of-money-equipment-media-reports/
[03:27]	TR Bot	 Russia abandons modernization of power plants due to lack of money, equipment, media reports
[03:27]	IsambardPrince	"The Russian government approved the modernization project's abandonment of the Nevinnomysskaya Condensing Power Plant in Stavropol Krai, the cost of which had reportedky risen by 454%."
[03:27]	IsambardPrince	LOL
[03:27]	IsambardPrince	In what timespan? If the cost of apartments in Moscow is rising by 20% per month...
[03:28]	IsambardPrince	How fast is the cost of a major infrastructure project going up?
[03:28]	MinceR	it's not a priority anyway
[03:28]	MinceR	stealing ukrainian kids and getting north korean soldiers hooked on pr0n is
[03:29]	IsambardPrince	I guess if there's a Russia 100 years from now they'll still be bothering people using Soviet-era tanks.
[03:29]	IsambardPrince	And running a Soviet-era power grid.
[03:29]	MinceR	i doubt it
[03:29]	IsambardPrince	They don't have money for it. Why?
[03:29]	MinceR	i don't think there will be a muscovy 100 years from now, but if they want to make it, they have to get their shit together in a hurry
[03:29]	IsambardPrince	Oh because they launch ICBMs at Ukraine just to remind people they have them.
[03:29]	IsambardPrince	:)
[03:30]	MinceR	s/stealing/kidnapping/
[03:30]	IsambardPrince	https://kyivindependent.com/russia-buys-acceptance-with-cash-plunging-economy-into-uncertainty/
[03:30]	TR Bot	 Russia buys acceptance with cash, plunging economy into uncertainty
[03:31]	MinceR	well, they won't have future economic woes if they don't have a future
[03:31]	IsambardPrince	"Most troops hail from Russia's most disadvantaged regions places where the prospect of upfront cash is simply too difficult to ignore."
[03:31]	IsambardPrince	America is like this too.
[03:31]	IsambardPrince	Almost our entire military is Hispanic/Latino or Black.
[03:32]	IsambardPrince	It's the only groups that are typically poor enough that the prospect of an enlistedman's pay is appealing.
[03:33]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I scored 86 on the ASVAB test. But they denied my enlistment. They said I still had tubes in my ears from an ear surgery in the 90s.
[03:33]	IsambardPrince	When they saw my test scores on the ASVAB though they were trying to get me to agree to officer training.
[03:33]	MinceR	they don't want cyborg soldiers?
[03:33]	IsambardPrince	Until the physical happened.
[03:34]	IsambardPrince	Then by the time I had an operation to get the tubes out, the Iraq War had broken out.
[03:34]	IsambardPrince	And they were trying to get me to join the National Guard so they could stiff me on pay and VA benefits and put me in a unit where I was more likely to die.
[03:34]	MinceR	:>
[03:35]	IsambardPrince	So that changed my assessment of a military career.
[03:35]	IsambardPrince	I was trying to join the active Army at first and specifically to become a military police officer.
[03:36]	IsambardPrince	I'm glad that didn't happen either.
[03:36]	IsambardPrince	I could have ended up at one of those torture centers guarding prisoners there.
[03:36]	IsambardPrince	Then they wonder why people who survive wars come back and they're not right anymore.
[03:37]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, The recruiters in the US are dirty as hell.
[03:37]	IsambardPrince	They asked if I had a mental disorder. I said yes, bipolar disorder.
[03:37]	IsambardPrince	He said, "No you don't. You get in and then you develop one."
[03:37]	IsambardPrince	"See him? He has ADHD. He got it AFTER he was already in, and now they pay for his medicine."
[03:38]	MinceR	:>
[03:38]	MinceR	Service Guarantees Citizenship
[03:38]	IsambardPrince	He made sure to let me know that as long as you were already in, they couldn't throw you out over that.
[03:39]	IsambardPrince	They could throw you out for being gay back then, but they had Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Investigate, Don't Pursue.
[03:39]	IsambardPrince	So like, unless you were being very open about it in a way nobody could miss, then you were fine.
[03:39]	MinceR	what do they have now?
[03:40]	IsambardPrince	You can be in the military and openly gay, that's the law.
[03:40]	IsambardPrince	But there's no law that says Trump can't throw out the trannies.
[03:40]	MinceR	strange, i thought the nazis would be in a hurry to change that
[03:40]	IsambardPrince	So he's changed the regulation already to declare that they're insane.
[03:40]	IsambardPrince	And the military is throwing them out.
[03:40]	MinceR	sounds like the USSR
[03:41]	IsambardPrince	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_Ask%2C_Don't_Tell_Repeal_Act_of_2010
[03:41]	TR Bot	 Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 - Wikipedia
[03:41]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, It's federal law that says openly gay people can be in the military.
[03:41]	MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
[03:41]	TR Bot	 Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia
[03:41]	IsambardPrince	There's no law that allows trannies.
[03:43]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, You smash the entire area, you kill anything that's got more than two legs!
[03:43]	MinceR	:>
[03:43]	IsambardPrince	(Wonder if there's a two-legged bug.)
[03:43]	MinceR	sure, a bug with all but two of its legs severed
[03:44]	IsambardPrince	Damn it, we blew off all its legs but two!
[03:44]	IsambardPrince	Should we kill it?
[03:44]	IsambardPrince	No, that would be against orders.
[03:44]	MinceR	:>
[03:44]	MinceR	self defense would probably still warrant it
[03:45]	MinceR	or simply that it would be trying pretty hard to interfere with killing the others
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[03:55]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Basically Trump's style this time around is don't blink at them wrong or they'll hurt you real bad.
[03:55]	IsambardPrince	You know, frivolous garbage from the DOJ mostly.
[03:55]	IsambardPrince	Civil rights violations.
[03:55]	IsambardPrince	Fun stuff.
[03:56]	IsambardPrince	Trump's Puppet Mayor of NYC found that out.
[03:56]	IsambardPrince	Trump probably has him in the old Rolodex as "N****r Bitch!" at this point.
[03:56]	IsambardPrince	You know, His Excellency Mayor Eric Adams.
[03:56]	MinceR	:>
[03:57]	MinceR	what's excellent about him?
[03:58]	IsambardPrince	The style of office, you know.
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[03:58]	MinceR	is his office so fancy it merits that description?
[03:58]	IsambardPrince	Like how you have to call crooked judges who wouldn't know the law if it bit them in the ass "Your Honor".
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[03:58]	MinceR	lol
[03:59]	IsambardPrince	Trump isn't wrong that a lot of judges are crooked, and unfair, but he doesn't care if they're crooked and unfair in general. 
[03:59]	IsambardPrince	As long as it doesn't pertain to him.
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[04:10]	MinceR	he needs them to be crooked in his favor
[04:15]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, he was angry when Biden pretty much finished filling up the courts before he left.
[04:16]	IsambardPrince	You'll notice that the Republican judges have not announced any retirements yet even though it's a month into Trump's term?
[04:16]	IsambardPrince	In fact, one of them withdrew his retirement before Biden left and returned to the bench.
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[04:16]	IsambardPrince	I'm betting he wishes he never took this job.
[04:17]	IsambardPrince	Now Trump will eat up 4 yeard of his retirement to avoid being replaced by Trump.
[04:17]	IsambardPrince	There is usually a stampede to retire when a president of the party that nominated those judges is back in office.
[04:17]	IsambardPrince	So far it's been crickets.
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[04:18]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Biden vetoed a bill that would have added 67 judges back in December.
[04:18]	IsambardPrince	Trump would have gotten to appoint most of them.
[04:19]	TR News	"3D Printed Camera You Can Now Download" https://hackaday.com/2025/02/13/a-3d-printed-camera-you-can-now-download-shutter-and-all/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:19]	TR Bot	3D Printed Camera You Can Now Download, Shutter And All | Hackaday
[04:20]	IsambardPrince	42 vacancies.
[04:20]	IsambardPrince	0 pending nominees.
[04:21]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Odd that Trump didn't sign the nominees in January honestly.
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[04:22]	IsambardPrince	The Senate can't even put them on the schedule until they receive that.
[04:22]	IsambardPrince	They've shown no indication that they plan to recess and let Trump recess appoint them all. If they did that, the judges would all expire at the end of next year anyway.
[04:23]	IsambardPrince	And then they could only be re-appointed if the Senate agreed to recess for more than 3 days again.
[04:24]	IsambardPrince	Recess appointments were not intended to be forever. They were meant to let the President appoint officials until the Senate considers them. Until that happens, the judges appointed that way are not lifetime appointments.
[04:24]	IsambardPrince	Trump was demanding recess appointments from the beginning for everything.
[04:24]	TR News	Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin to lay off more than 1,000 employees days after New Glenn rocket debut: 10 points https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-to-lay-off-more-than-1000-employees-days-after-new-glenn-rocket-debut-10-points/amp_articleshow/118249888.cms
[04:24]	TR Bot	 Blue Origin job cuts: Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin to lay off more than 1,000 employees days after New Glenn rocket debut: 10 points - The Economic Times
[04:25]	IsambardPrince	But that creates a risk that the Democrats could regain the Senate in 2026 and Trump's entire cabinet, all his officials, and the judges expire all at once.
[04:25]	IsambardPrince	Then you have an empty government and an uncooperative Senate.
[04:25]	MinceR	for that, there would have to be a free and fair election
[04:25]	MinceR	so i wouldn't worry about that
[04:25]	TR News	Microsoft Confirms End of HoloLens Mixed Reality Hardware https://rcpmag.com/Articles/2025/02/14/Microsoft-Confirms-End-of-HoloLens-Mixed-Reality-Hardware.aspx
[04:25]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Confirms End of HoloLens Mixed Reality Hardware -- Redmond Channel Partner
[04:26]	MinceR	and considering that it's probably the state that called most loudly for democracy before, they might even do away with the entire charade and just not have elections at all anymore
[04:29]	TR News	The Well-Dressed Radio Hacker https://hackaday.com/2025/02/13/what-the-well-dressed-radio-hacker-is-wearing-this-season/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:29]	TR Bot	The Well-Dressed Radio Hacker Is Wearing This Season | Hackaday
[04:30]	TR News	Cute Face Tells You How Bad The Air Quality Is https://hackaday.com/2025/02/13/cute-face-tells-you-how-bad-the-air-quality-is/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:30]	TR Bot	Face Tells You How Bad The Air Quality Is | Hackaday
[04:30]	TR News	"The Miller Effect" https://hackaday.com/2025/02/13/understanding-the-miller-effect/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:30]	TR Bot	The Miller Effect | Hackaday
[04:31]	TR News	Informatica plunges 33% https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/13/informatica-plunges-revenue-miss-blames-internal-issues-says-underlying-business-strong/
[04:31]	TR Bot	plunges 33% on revenue miss, citing 'internal issues,' but says underlying business is strong - SiliconANGLE
[04:32]	TR News	3D Printed Air Raid Siren https://hackaday.com/2025/02/14/3d-printed-air-raid-siren-sounds-just-like-the-real-thing/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:32]	TR Bot	Printed Air Raid Siren Sounds Just Like The Real Thing | Hackaday
[04:33]	TR News	Applied Materials warns of revenue hit from new Chinese chip export restrictions https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/13/applied-materials-warns-revenue-hit-due-new-restrictions-chinese-chip-exports/
[04:33]	TR Bot	Materials warns of revenue hit from new Chinese chip export restrictions - SiliconANGLE
[04:34]	TR News	University to increase tuition 4%, not impacting students on financial aid https://stanforddaily.com/2025/02/13/stanford-expands-financial-aid-to-cover-tuition-for-families-making-up-to-150k/
[04:34]	TR Bot	 University to increase tuition 4%, not impacting students on financial aid
[04:35]	TR News	Best Terminal Applications for Development https://thenewstack.io/best-terminal-applications-for-development/
[04:35]	TR Bot	 Best Terminal Applications for Development - The New Stack
[04:36]	TR News	Stanford assists in filing lawsuit against National Institute of Health https://stanforddaily.com/2025/02/13/stanford-assists-in-filing-lawsuit-against-national-institute-of-health/
[04:36]	TR Bot	 Stanford assists in filing lawsuit against National Institute of Health
[04:38]	lxo	apropos http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/They_Will_Never_Leave_Linus_Torvalds_Alone_Rust_is_Just_Another.shtml so rust is the new systemd?
[04:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights They Will Never Leave Linus Torvalds Alone, Rust is Just Another Way to Cause Instability and Infighting in Linux
[04:38]	TR News	Circuit Board Maker Unimicron Targeted in Ransomware Attack https://www.securityweek.com/circuit-board-maker-unimicron-targeted-in-ransomware-attack/
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[04:39]	TR News	Chinese Cyberspy Possibly Launching Ransomware Attacks as Side Job https://www.securityweek.com/chinese-cyberspy-possibly-launching-ransomware-attacks-as-side-job/
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[04:39]	TR News	Palo Alto Networks Patches Potentially Serious Firewall Vulnerability https://www.securityweek.com/palo-alto-networks-patches-potentially-serious-firewall-vulnerability/
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[04:40]	TR News	Exploitation of Old ThinkPHP, OwnCloud Vulnerabilities Surges https://www.securityweek.com/exploitation-of-old-thinkphp-owncloud-vulnerabilities-surges/
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[04:42]	TR News	Rapid7 Flags New PostgreSQL Zero-Day Connected to BeyondTrust Exploitation https://www.securityweek.com/rapid7-flags-new-postgresql-zero-day-connected-to-beyondtrust-exploitation/
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[04:43]	TR News	APNIC EC election 2025: Value your vote https://blog.apnic.net/2025/02/13/apnic-ec-election-2025-value-your-vote/
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[04:44]	TR News	Rajeesh K Nambiar: The 46th International TeX Users Group Conference, 2025 https://rajeeshknambiar.wordpress.com/2025/02/13/the-46th-international-tex-users-group-conference-2025/
[04:44]	TR Bot	 The 46th International TeX Users Group Conference, 2025 Soliloquies
[04:45]	TR News	The Digital Services Coordinator Database: Tracking DSA investigations into GAFAM https://edri.org/our-work/the-digital-services-coordinator-database-tracking-dsa-investigations-into-big-tech/
[04:45]	TR Bot	 The Digital Services Coordinator Database: Tracking DSA investigations into Big Tech - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[04:45]	TR News	DeepSeek Exposes Major Cybersecurity Blind Spot https://www.securityweek.com/deepseek-exposes-major-cybersecurity-blind-spot/
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[04:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> apropos http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/They_Will_Never_Leave_Linus_Torvalds_Alone_Rust_is_Just_Another.shtml so rust is the new systemd?
[04:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	quite different
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	Wayland: let's do X all over, this time for "security"
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	(they blame "old" code with "old" programming standards)
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	more similar to what happens with rust
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	they say the C code is "old" and "not safe"
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	even if the "new", e.g. wayland, has plenty of holes too
[04:49]	TR News	Why the Convicted Felon Trade Threats Will Place Canadian Digital, Cultural, and Hey Hi (AI) Policy Under Pressure https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2025/02/why-the-trump-trade-threats/
[04:49]	TR Bot	 Why the Trump Trade Threats Will Place Canadian Digital, Cultural, and AI Policy Under Pressure - Michael Geist
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	it helps them that media pundits are not technical people
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they just repeat whatever the GAFAM proxies claim
[04:53]	TR News	Now or never: strengthen GDPR Procedural Rules to hold Big Tech accountable https://www.accessnow.org/press-release/strengthen-gdpr-procedural-rules/
[04:53]	TR Bot	 Now or never: strengthen GDPR Procedural Rules to hold Big Tech accountable
[04:54]	TR News	SolveSpace extrude limitation https://bkhome.org/news/202502/solvespace-extrude-limitation.html
[04:54]	TR Bot	 SolveSpace extrude limitation
[04:55]	TR News	"Thinking Skills" fluff from Microsoft MARKETING, disguised as "study" to create hype and make LLMs garbage seem like "inevitable" https://hackaday.com/2025/02/13/why-ai-usage-may-degrade-human-cognition-and-blunt-critical-thinking-skills/ | Source: Hackaday
[04:55]	TR Bot	AI Usage May Degrade Human Cognition And Blunt Critical Thinking Skills | Hackaday
[04:56]	TR News	A terminal survey https://rubenerd.com/a-terminal-survey/
[04:56]	TR Bot	A terminal survey
[04:57]	TR News	Limits before running Postgres becomes useful https://rubenerd.com/limits-before-running-postgres-becomes-useful/
[04:57]	TR Bot	Limits before running Postgres becomes useful
[04:58]	TR News	I love free software (and openSUSE) https://mschlander.wordpress.com/2025/02/13/i-love-free-software-and-opensuse/
[04:58]	TR Bot	 I love free software (and openSUSE) | The Blog is Hot
[04:59]	TR News	Bits from Debian: DebConf25 Logo Contest Results https://bits.debian.org/2025/02/debconf25-logo-contest-results.html
[04:59]	TR Bot	 DebConf25 Logo Contest Results - Bits from Debian
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[05:00]	TR News	3D bottom swing-arm for custom recumbent trike https://bkhome.org/news/202502/3d-bottom-swing-arm-for-custom-recumbent-trike.html
[05:00]	TR Bot	 3D bottom swing-arm for custom recumbent trike
[05:00]	TR News	New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Clients, including Civ7 and Slender Threads - 2025-02-12 Edition https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2025-02-12-edition/index.html
[05:00]	TR Bot	 New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients, including Civ7 and Slender Threads - 2025-02-12 Edition
[05:01]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed Moves to SELinux https://linuxiac.com/opensuse-tumbleweed-moves-to-selinux/
[05:01]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Moves to SELinux
[05:03]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Did you see the reddit post?
[05:04]	IsambardPrince	Microsoft guy said his division/product is basically failing.
[05:04]	IsambardPrince	And it would be "career suicide" to step away from work to go see his wife.
[05:04]	IsambardPrince	They demand total loyalty, and guarantee you nothing except that you'll be disposed of like trash whenever it becomes convenient.
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	what's the url?
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/1il8178/wife_cried_today/
[05:08]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	"We filed end of November 2023--married Sep 2023. I'm USC and wife is Pakistani. We talk almost daily via video call and I'm barely handling it. It's easier for me since I work a very demanding job that takes a lot of my focus but my wife is taking online classes and has more time to reflect. Today she just broke down suddenly and it frigging killed me. I feel so helpless. I want to visit her but taking time off right now would be 
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	career suicide especially when so many tech companies are doing layoffs--for context I'm a senior sde at Microsoft and our product is really struggling. I feel so helpless in this situation. Why the hell are spousal applications multi year long when it directly impacts Americans from literally starting their lives. Please help me understand why we aren't protesting these absurd times for SPOUSES for God's sake! Can we petition Trump 
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	to look into this considering his wife also went through a similar process?
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	"
[05:08]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Terrified of layoffs.
[05:09]	IsambardPrince	Failing product/division at Microsoft.
[05:09]	IsambardPrince	Senior role, worried they'll zap him if he goes and sees his wife using paid vacation time or something.
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	Thinks you can "petition Trump", and that Trump cares. (apparently)
[05:10]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Says this....basically.... "Vicious company, low morale."
[05:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  Mixing Rust and C in Linux likened to cancer by kernel maintainer https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/06/Mixing_Rust_and_C_in_Linux_likened_to_cancer_by_kernel_maintain.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/06/Mixing_Rust_and_C_in_Linux_likened_to_cancer_by_kernel_maintain.gmi 
[05:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Mixing Rust and C in Linux likened to cancer by kernel maintainer
[05:11]	TR News	New leadership for Asahi Linux https://lwn.net/Articles/1009528/
[05:11]	TR Bot	leadership for Asahi Linux [LWN.net]
[05:11]	TR News	OpenSUSE Tumbleweed switches to SELinux https://lwn.net/Articles/1009522/
[05:11]	TR Bot	Tumbleweed switches to SELinux [LWN.net]
[05:13]	TR News	#040 | S5 | Classic Cybershow, Crew On Deck | Technopoly https://cybershow.uk/media/episodes/tiktok3.mp3
[05:14]	TR News	"Raise Rents on Poor Tenants" https://www.propublica.org/article/affordable-housing-investors-loophole-rent-tenants | Source: Pro Publica
[05:14]	TR Bot	 How Investors Exploit Housing Loophole to Raise Rents on Poor Tenants ProPublica
[05:18]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: SteamOS, Steam Deck, and Steam Games https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Games_SteamOS_Steam_Deck_and_Steam_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Games_SteamOS_Steam_Deck_and_Steam_Games.gmi 
[05:18]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[05:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: SteamOS, Steam Deck, and Steam Games
[05:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: thanks, will mention it later
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[05:22]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], That really bites, you know.
[05:22]	IsambardPrince	He's miserable.
[05:22]	IsambardPrince	His wife is miserable.
[05:22]	IsambardPrince	And he's a professional working at a huge software company.
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	i heard this before
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	same story
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	other people
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	do not see the kids
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the wife
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	stay working till late
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	fear of losing job and then home etc
[05:23]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, and I can tell you this, Roy.
[05:23]	IsambardPrince	He may never see her.
[05:23]	IsambardPrince	Not just because of Trump.
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[05:23]	IsambardPrince	But marriage visas are hard to get, especially from a place like Pakistan. And if you go there and marry and then come back and petition for the visa it can be even worse.
[05:24]	IsambardPrince	Because then they'll wonder if you did that to get around them.
[05:24]	IsambardPrince	And she may even be dealing with the State Department.
[05:24]	IsambardPrince	Which Trump has turned into more of a mess than USCIS in only a month.
[05:25]	IsambardPrince	Sounds like State to me.
[05:26]	IsambardPrince	When I was speaking to an immigration lawyer she said "Be glad he's already here. It's almost impossible to get a marriage visa for someone in the Philippines, and the Department of State is always ahead of USCIS when it comes to the nastiest new regulations."
[05:28]	IsambardPrince	DoS doesn't like marriage stuff because the government views immigration benefits for married people in a rather....skeptical lens.
[05:28]	IsambardPrince	It's so much worse with the DoS because the person you want to marry isn't here, and so their goal becomes like, making sure they don't ever get here.
[05:30]	IsambardPrince	So they basically need to be in the country on some other sort of visa already before you meet them. Then if you meet them here and get married in a US State, then you go directly to USCIS with it and they have fewer grounds to deny it because they have to recognize what our laws have done.
[05:30]	IsambardPrince	But if you planned for that to happen and they find out, you're screwed.
[05:31]	IsambardPrince	Like, you know if you plan for them to be here on vacation or something so you can "meet", that's not going to go well.
[05:35]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Trump signed an executive order ending the use of paper straws in the federal government.
[05:36]	IsambardPrince	I was thinking about writing him to ask if Pam Bondi can file criminal charges against Mondelez executives due to Ritz crackers becoming so full of air pockets instead of cracker that they all break apart and make a mess.
[05:39]	TR News	 (NEW):  LibreOffice goes collaborative and Wasm as ZetaOffice The Register https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/LibreOffice_goes_collaborative_and_Wasm_as_ZetaOffice_The_Regis.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/LibreOffice_goes_collaborative_and_Wasm_as_ZetaOffice_The_Regis.gmi 
[05:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LibreOffice goes collaborative and Wasm as ZetaOffice The Register
[05:41]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[05:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[05:43]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], my home page and blog have finally moved.  I wonder how RSS readers will deal with the redirect I put in place.  will you please let me know if you get any trouble from that?  I hope it will be entirely transparent
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/index.en.rss
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[05:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Hardware, 3-D Printing, and CAD
[05:50]	MinceR	IsambardPrince: lol
[05:52]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Mondelez sounds Mexican. That should be good for some tariffs or something.
[05:52]	MinceR	lol
[05:53]	IsambardPrince	Last time Trump said he would quit eating Oreos because Mondelez moved it to Mexico and fired everyone in Chicago.
[05:53]	TR News	 (NEW):  curl 8.12.1 and Browser Choice< https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/curl_8_12_1_and_Browser_Choice.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/curl_8_12_1_and_Browser_Choice.gmi 
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines curl 8.12.1 and Browser Choice
[05:53]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
[05:53]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], yeah, it gets redirected properly, and the stuff on the other end started out about the same, but I have no clue whether the changes of URLs underneath could confuse existing RSS readers
[05:53]	IsambardPrince	Now he hates Chicago and is threatening our mayor unless he goes in the old Rolodex as "Communist Porch Monkey Bitch" and lets ICE in.
[05:54]	TR News	 (NEW):  Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Debian_and_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Debian_and_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi 
[05:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers
[05:55]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, "Make Ritz crackers not break our we send ICE in....to Mexico. We'll bring you up here and then deport you again, in chains."
[05:56]	IsambardPrince	It really is Mr. Garrison from South Park.
[05:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[05:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[05:56]	IsambardPrince	It's not even a caricature of Trump this time.
[05:56]	TR News	Techrights Links 15/02/2025: University Price Hikes and Copyrights Action Against Slop Companies https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Links_15_02_2025_University_Price_Hikes_and_Copyrights_Action_A.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Links_15_02_2025_University_Price_Hikes_and_Copyrights_Action_A.gmi 
[05:56]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 15/02/2025: University Price Hikes and Copyrights Action Against Slop Companies
● Feb 15
[06:00]	TR News	"There is a void in waiting. Exciting things are coming, and they are coming soon. But still I must wait. Not for long anymore, but time slows down as I wait. I've got my thoughts here. I've got a home full of things I like and things I like to do, but nothing interests me while I wait for what's to come." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2494
[06:01]	TR News	"My partner is visiting her family this weekend, and I would've joined her but I've developed a nasty cold starting on Wednesday. A year or two ago I watched Richard Linklater's "Before Sunrise" for the first time, and as a hopeless romantic, of course fell hard for it." gemini://tilde.club/~winter/gemlog/2025/2-14.gmi
[06:02]	TR News	LE now down to TEN. "2694 (91.4 %) capsules are self-signed, 10 (0.3 %) use the Certificate Authority Let's Encrypt, 244 (8.3 %) are signed by another CA (may be not a trusted one)." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[06:04]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D1206.jpg
[06:04]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1556.jpg
[06:10]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I feel they should check these headlines better.
[06:10]	IsambardPrince	"2 people shot in Philadelphia as city celebrates" on WGN
[06:11]	IsambardPrince	Well, how good could they be? I mean, they both get shot and the city erupts in celebration, right?
[06:13]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I'm watching "Venus Wars" from the library.
[06:14]	IsambardPrince	The cops pull them over and point machine guns at him "Identification!" He says, "I'm not carrying it." Cop says, "Bad decision." I was like, oh, ICE is on Venus in the future.
[06:15]	TR News	Techrights Certificate Authority (CA) Let's Encrypt Now Down to TEN (0.3% of the Whole) in Geminispace https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Certificate_Authority_CA_Let_s_Encrypt_Now_Down_to_TEN_0_3_of_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Certificate_Authority_CA_Let_s_Encrypt_Now_Down_to_TEN_0_3_of_t.gmi 
[06:15]	TR Bot	 Techrights Certificate Authority (CA) Let's Encrypt Now Down to TEN (0.3% of the Whole) in Geminispace
[06:16]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I wish I could hack into the intercom at Midway and O'Hare and just put Administrator Breen from Half-Life 2 on.
[06:17]	IsambardPrince	Welcome to City 17. It's better here.
[06:26]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I posted: "Trump is the mayor of New York City now that he publicly showed that the corruption, bribery, and wire fraud charges against Eric Adams vanished merely for allowing ICE into their jail.
[06:26]	IsambardPrince	Instead of removing Trump's mole, per the Constitution of New York she has the power to suspend his mayoral powers and refer him for impeachment, Governor Kathy Hochul says she'll "wait".
[06:26]	IsambardPrince	For what, exactly? Trump's Department of Injustice got the charges dropped without prejudice, then Tom Homan finished threatening him publicly that if he wasn't 100% compliant with whatever Trump wants to do in NYC, the charges will come back.
[06:26]	IsambardPrince	This is likely a preview of things to come. Pam Bondi inherited the corruption investigation Biden's administration had going, but she can "invent charges" against any other official that doesn't fall into line.
[06:27]	IsambardPrince	There's something like 60,000 federal crimes. So she can pretty much just watch them and take her pick."
[06:31]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Lousy moderation has basically killed FICO Forums.
[06:31]	IsambardPrince	They went from hundreds of active posters to a cadre of maybe 12 people who aren't banned, talking to themselves.
[06:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: did a draft
[06:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	re pakistani msft workers
[06:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	want to check?
[06:33]	IsambardPrince	https://fortune.com/2025/02/14/doge-firings-nuclear-weapons-specialists-energy-department-layoffs-nnsa-elon-musk/
[06:33]	TR Bot	firings: nuclear weapon specialists to be hired back | Fortune
[06:34]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], MElon's sackings were so outrageous that hours later he had to rehire nuclear bomb experts he accidentally got rid of.
[06:34]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, ^
[06:34]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Yeah
[06:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Not_Only_Windows_Surface_and_Hey_Hi_PCs_Microsoft_s_Hardware_Ve.shtml
[06:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights Not Only Windows, Surface, and "Hey Hi" PCs; Microsoft's Hardware Ventures Are a Dumpster Fire; HoloLens Mixed Reality Hardware Now Axed Altogether and Staff is Miserable
[06:36]	TR News	Techrights Not Only Windows, Surface, and "Hey Hi" PCs; Microsoft's Hardware Ventures Are a Dumpster Fire; HoloLens Mixed Reality Hardware Now Axed Altogether and Staff is Miserable https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Not_Only_Windows_Surface_and_Hey_Hi_PCs_Microsoft_s_Hardware_Ve.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Not_Only_Windows_Surface_and_Hey_Hi_PCs_Microsoft_s_Hardware_Ve.gmi 
[06:36]	TR Bot	 Techrights Not Only Windows, Surface, and "Hey Hi" PCs; Microsoft's Hardware Ventures Are a Dumpster Fire; HoloLens Mixed Reality Hardware Now Axed Altogether and Staff is Miserable
[06:37]	IsambardPrince	admits that it's now growing
[06:37]	IsambardPrince	now?
[06:37]	IsambardPrince	:)
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	not
[06:42]	IsambardPrince	Trump wants interest rates to drop, which would finish destroying anyone who saves and has no debt, and it wouldn't save the people who have debt because their rates are either locked in or they have no money and no room to take on more, so it won't help them spend.
[06:42]	IsambardPrince	There's very few people that would benefit from a rate drop back to zero. People wouldn't.
[06:43]	IsambardPrince	It might buy companies who fool investors with a bullshit barrage some time, but it will come straight out of the ass of everyone with savings, or who visits a grocery store.
[06:43]	TR News	"IBM like many companies is controlled by a few active investors. Those investors want a quick buck, not concerned about the long term. ROI in 5 quarters or less was the old saying. Sacrifice the future for the present. RTO is just one line item the investors feed AK." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkz3fakz
[06:43]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkz3fakz )
[06:44]	TR News	"Those same investors also want their other stocks to go up, auto, construction, commercial real estate. If you layoff people today, negative effects on stock price don't occur for at least 5 quarters, but the positive effect is immediate." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkz3fakz
[06:44]	IsambardPrince	When the rates drop to zero, destructive maneuvers like share buybacks become irresistable. 
[06:44]	TR News	"How do I volunteer to be on the Layoff list? 40 Years in, White Male, late 60s, located in Infrastructure. You would think that I would have a bullseye on my back." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jks0yq7m
[06:44]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jks0yq7m )
[06:44]	IsambardPrince	Because you can go private and at the same time enrich the CEO, but it's highly inflationary. It creates no actual value.
[06:44]	TR News	IBM eugenics: "Worse. I disclosed an acquired physical disability in Jan 2023 and was RAd by May same year." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkw27we4
[06:44]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkw27we4 )
[06:45]	TR News	"Kavanaugh almost 37 million with over 143,000 shares. And they have the nerve to say that they are crying the blues" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkknthd2
[06:45]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkknthd2 )
[06:51]	TR News	Techrights Richard Stallman on RISC-V and Free Hardware https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Richard_Stallman_on_RISC_V_and_Free_Hardware.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Richard_Stallman_on_RISC_V_and_Free_Hardware.gmi 
[06:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Richard Stallman on RISC-V and Free Hardware
● Feb 15
[07:09]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], What do you know about Santander Bank?
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	not much
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they have a branch near us
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	i went there once
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe twice
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they don't offer anything good
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	my guess is
[07:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	some spanish people living in the uk choose them
[07:12]	IsambardPrince	https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-fires-over-400-dhs-employees/
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Trump administration fires over 400 DHS employees as mass firings continue - CBS News
[07:12]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], USCIS got hit.
[07:13]	IsambardPrince	400 layoffs spread between FEMA, USCIS, CISA, and others.
[07:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	37 trillions to go
[07:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	not counting business debt
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	like six failing business of "Trump Brands"
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	those layoffs make the country less functional
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	i.e. woerse services for citizens
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	while diminishing US clamour abroad (USAID))
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	the krelmlin issues statmenets praising for it
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you know who'se gaining
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	even some of his voters now complaint
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	but putin the the kremlin congratulate him on these moves
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a shitshow
[07:16]	TR News	Techrights Python and Microsoft: Pandas Should Have Known OpenDocument Format (ODF) and Microsoft Excel Are Different and Competing Things https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Python_and_Microsoft_Pandas_Should_Have_Known_OpenDocument_Form.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Python_and_Microsoft_Pandas_Should_Have_Known_OpenDocument_Form.gmi 
[07:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Python and Microsoft: Pandas Should Have Known OpenDocument Format (ODF) and Microsoft Excel Are Different and Competing Things
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Python_and_Microsoft_Pandas_Should_Have_Known_OpenDocument_Form.shtml
[07:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Python and Microsoft: Pandas Should Have Known OpenDocument Format (ODF) and Microsoft Excel Are Different and Competing Things
[07:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	draft
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[07:26]	TR News	Yesterday I picked up my first two pairs of glasses, probably not something worth sharing with the world, but it turns out writing this phlog has finally turned me into one of these self-important diarying sorts." gopher://aussies.space:70/0/~freet/phlog/2025-02-15.1Four_Eyed.txt
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I really hope that my parents are gone soon.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	I won't be glad they're dead but I will be glad they're gone.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	They're not good people.
[07:27]	TR News	"I don't think I have a paid subscription with any internet service for purely personal use, foreign or otherwise. For subscription services I think it's just: ISP, Domain Registrar/host, VPS host. The first two are Australian companies." gopher://aussies.space:70/0/~freet/phlog/2025-02-15.2RE_Moving_Domains.txt
[07:33]	IsambardPrince	Looks okay.
[07:33]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I told my Dad I won't be glad when he's dead, but I will be glad when he's gone.
[07:33]	IsambardPrince	And for the sake of our country, I hope his generation is gone soon.
[07:34]	IsambardPrince	Because it's sad when someone outlives their usefulness and goes crazy and is only living so that they can say horrible things to people.
[07:35]	TR News	Techrights In Gopher and Gemini Protocol People Abandon Services Based in the United States https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/In_Gopher_and_Gemini_Protocol_People_Abandon_Services_Based_in_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/In_Gopher_and_Gemini_Protocol_People_Abandon_Services_Based_in_.gmi 
[07:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights In Gopher and Gemini Protocol People Abandon Services Based in the United States
[07:35]	IsambardPrince	It's not just him, it's generally the way his generation is. He was particularly bad even for a Boomer. And they couldn't stand to be near him so what does that tell you?
[07:37]	IsambardPrince	It's like the difference between someone with a healthy gut using the restroom before you and you go in there and wave your hand and say "Fwah!" and then there's my Dad, you know, the guy who just goes in there with C-Diff or something and drops ass and paints the walls.
[07:37]	IsambardPrince	That's the difference between a normal Boomer and my father.
[07:38]	IsambardPrince	There's a few of them that are almost respectable, but that generation mostly had a bunch of racists and narcissists.
[07:40]	IsambardPrince	A racist person is a person who paints with a wide brush and tries to make claims that bad is the default setting for an entire race. This is different than shock humor, or just mild stereotyping.
[07:40]	IsambardPrince	And the Boomers are full blown "If it ain't White, it ain't Right.".
[07:41]	IsambardPrince	So, when I say my Dad is racist, that's different than me making jokes about what Trump might call some mayors in his Rolodex, right?
[07:41]	IsambardPrince	He turns "Blacks" into a faceless blob. They "stole" his opportunities (he has millions of dollars and three college degrees) from him, using "affirmative action".
[07:42]	IsambardPrince	And after they stole his opportunities, you see, they decided to live in the inner city and become prostitutes, and drug dealers, because that's what you do after Harvard with the affirmative action. No it makes no sense, don't even try.
[07:42]	IsambardPrince	But that's my dad.
[07:46]	TR News	putin musk
● Feb 15
[08:05]	TR News	Techrights YouTube Layoffs Mean That YouTube is Still Losing a Lot of Money (Net Income or Profit Almost Definitely Negative) https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/YouTube_Layoffs_Mean_That_YouTube_is_Still_Losing_a_Lot_of_Mone.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/YouTube_Layoffs_Mean_That_YouTube_is_Still_Losing_a_Lot_of_Mone.gmi 
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights YouTube Layoffs Mean That YouTube is Still Losing a Lot of Money (Net Income or Profit Almost Definitely Negative)
[08:08]	TR News	GitLab "Cash on Hand" fell below a billion dollars. That's NOT how much money it has in the bank but how much it can pay back if it goes under or becomes insolvent https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GTLB/gitlab/cash-on-hand
[08:08]	TR Bot	 GitLab Cash on Hand 2021-2024 | GTLB | MacroTrends
[08:20]	TR News	Techrights Microsoft Has Only $17,482 Million Left, "Cash on Hand" Sank 40 Billion Dollars in 2 Years https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Microsoft_Has_Only_17_482_Million_Left_Cash_on_Hand_Sank_40_Bil.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Microsoft_Has_Only_17_482_Million_Left_Cash_on_Hand_Sank_40_Bil.gmi 
[08:20]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft Has Only $17,482 Million Left, "Cash on Hand" Sank 40 Billion Dollars in 2 Years
[08:22]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Mandy's invested partially in Microsoft. Not much I can do. Passive fund.
[08:22]	IsambardPrince	It's diversified though. Some small caps, some foreign blend stocks. Real assets. Bonds.
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	The goal is that not everything could go south in a big way all at once.
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	Loading up on Microsoft stock is obviously stupid with the risks they're taking, but these passive funds, that's sort of the fly in the soup, right?
[08:23]	IsambardPrince	Low or no fees, but the trade off is there's some companies in there you would never pick by yourself.
[08:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  Kdenlive 24.12.1 and KDE in "Tech Over Tea" https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/01/13/Kdenlive_24_12_1_and_KDE_in_Tech_Over_Tea.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/01/13/Kdenlive_24_12_1_and_KDE_in_Tech_Over_Tea.gmi 
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Kdenlive 24.12.1 and KDE in "Tech Over Tea"
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Santander now has this online only bank called Openbank.
[08:25]	IsambardPrince	And they're luring people in, I guess, with higher than usual savings rates, but they're variable. 
[08:26]	IsambardPrince	So basically they make no profit on it, the rates are obviously a teaser to help them lure deposits.
[08:26]	IsambardPrince	The rate will likely fall to about what other banks pay later.
[08:27]	TR News	 (NEW):  This Week in Plasma: Post-Release Polishing https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/This_Week_in_Plasma_Post_Release_Polishing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/This_Week_in_Plasma_Post_Release_Polishing.gmi 
[08:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines This Week in Plasma: Post-Release Polishing
[08:39]	darwin	"These f--king billionaires! They need to be put down, you know? Like f--king rabid dogs," Burr continued. "Theyre rabid with f--king greed, and just going out and just dividing everybody"--Bull Burr, 'Monday Morning Podcast'; I'm glad in USA we have the right to incite violence and do hate speech, not rights (nor free speech) anywhere else
[08:40]	IsambardPrince	https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/14/dhs-agents-deportation-not-trafficking/78641666007/
[08:40]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/14/dhs-agents-deportation-not-trafficking/78641666007/ )
[08:40]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], No proofreading in the mainstream media.
[08:40]	IsambardPrince	"Last April, ICE announced a crucial victory in that effort, gaining its own website scrubbed of any links to ICE."
[08:40]	IsambardPrince	They meant to say HSI did.
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's a bit prob
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not so much type
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	or proofreading
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	or changed meaning
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's crazy
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's like saying "Google lays off 20,000"
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	then "oops, we means Microsoft"
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	*meant
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	checking if it's  slo
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	*slo
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	>*slop
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	gptzero sees no slop hints in there
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	"gptzero"
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	re "gptzero"
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The Department of Homeland Security has ordered its entire investigations division - comprised of 6,000 agents - to divert focus on drug dealers, terrorists, and human traffickers and shift priority to the Trump administrations mission of deporting people in the U.S. illegally, USA TODAY has learned.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	The new focus for DHSs Homeland Security Investigations agency (HSI), current and former officials say, is in keeping with recent executive orders signed by President Donald Trump that demand a wholesale shift in federal law enforcement resources toward immigration crackdowns and removal.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	But they warn the shift will undermine high-profile investigations into some of the most dangerous transnational threats Americans face, including Mexican drug cartels smuggling deadly fentanyl across the border from Mexico."
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	i also checked 3 paras that say ICE
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	it says it seems human
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Fake: 0.0%
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	says Sapling
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe some bad writer
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and lack of proper oversight in the newsroom
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	which would otherwise catch the error
[08:55]	TR News	"If there's one thing you can always count on in the Linux world it's that packaging can be a nightmare. The OBS Studio team are not happy with the Fedora folks due to Flatpak problems and threatened legal action." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/fedora-threatened-with-legal-action-from-obs-studio-due-to-their-flatpak-packaging/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:55]	TR Bot	threatened with legal action from OBS Studio due to their Flatpak packaging | GamingOnLinux
[08:55]	TR News	"While Final Fantasy VII Rebirth can work on Linux with AMD GPUs (like Steam Deck), the situation with NVIDIA GPUs has been messy. Open source to the rescue though, again." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/a-workaround-for-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-on-linux-with-nvidia-gpus-has-been-found/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:55]	TR Bot	workaround for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on Linux with NVIDIA GPUs has been found | GamingOnLinux
[08:55]	TR News	"Catching up from a few other interesting bits announced during the PlayStation State of Play February 2025 is Days Gone Remastered. For players on PC, it will just be a DLC." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/days-gone-remastered-announced-coming-to-pc-as-a-dlc-in-april/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:55]	TR Bot	Gone Remastered announced coming to PC as a $10 DLC in April | GamingOnLinux
[08:56]	TR News	"Valve have now revealed the full list of Steam Sales and Festivals that will be happening throughout 2025. So time to fill up that wishlist, mark your calendar and prepare your wallet." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/heres-all-the-steam-sales-and-fests-for-2025/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:56]	TR Bot	all the Steam Sales and Fests for 2025 | GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR News	"TRX, the Tomb Raider I & II: Community Edition open source re-implementation project, has continued advancing and a fresh release of both are out now. With the Tomb Raider II side adding Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/tomb-raider-ii-open-source-re-implementation-adds-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR Bot	Raider II open source re-implementation adds Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR News	 (NEW):  PureOS Crimson Development Report: January 2025 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/PureOS_Crimson_Development_Report_January_2025.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/PureOS_Crimson_Development_Report_January_2025.gmi 
[08:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PureOS Crimson Development Report: January 2025
● Feb 15
[09:02]	TR News	 (NEW):  Fedora threatened with legal action from OBS Studio due to their Flatpak packaging https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Fedora_threatened_with_legal_action_from_OBS_Studio_due_to_thei.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Fedora_threatened_with_legal_action_from_OBS_Studio_due_to_thei.gmi 
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fedora threatened with legal action from OBS Studio due to their Flatpak packaging
[09:02]		*eidos (~eidos@jgbw2hcm6dag8.irc) has joined #techrights
[09:03]	TR News	 (NEW):  SteamOS-like Bazzite Linux has some nice growth thanks to great handheld PC support https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/SteamOS_like_Bazzite_Linux_has_some_nice_growth_thanks_to_great.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/SteamOS_like_Bazzite_Linux_has_some_nice_growth_thanks_to_great.gmi 
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines SteamOS-like Bazzite Linux has some nice growth thanks to great handheld PC support
[09:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi 
[09:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free and Open Source Software
[09:05]	TR News	"Codeberg are a "non-profit, community-led effort that provides Git hosting and other services for free and open source projects" and they've recently had a major problem from what they say are far-right forces engaging in a hate campaign." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/open-source-non-profit-platform-codeberg-suffering-from-hate-campaigns-due-to-far-right-forces/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:05]	TR Bot	source non-profit platform Codeberg "suffering from hate campaigns due to far-right forces" | GamingOnLinux
[09:05]	liberty_box	https://www.ipfire.org/blog/the-official-ipfire-subreddit-is-here
[09:06]	TR Bot	- The Official IPFire Subreddit is Here!
[09:06]	TR News	"KONAMI announced that Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater is going to be launching on August 28th" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/metal-gear-solid-delta-snake-eater-releases-in-august/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:06]	TR Bot	Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater releases in August | GamingOnLinux
[09:06]	TR News	"Another great deal you can grab here with Fanatical's Prestige Collection" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/get-tomb-raider-i-iii-remastered-and-star-wars-bounty-hunter-cheap-in-fanaticals-prestige-collection/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:06]	TR Bot	Tomb Raider I-III Remastered and STAR WARS: Bounty Hunter cheap in Fanatical's Prestige Collection | GamingOnLinux
[09:07]	TR News	IPFire outsources its community or users to Microsoft censors
[09:07]	TR News	"Here's the up to date list of games available on Amazon Prime Gaming for February 14th, and what compatibility you can expect for Linux / SteamOS and Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/get-over-30-games-including-hardspace-shipbreaker-right-now-via-prime-gaming/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:07]	TR Bot	over 30 games including Hardspace: Shipbreaker right now via Prime Gaming | GamingOnLinux
[09:07]	TR News	"If you love deckbuilders you may want to take a look at the just launched Deckbuilder Bonanza Humble Bundle as there's a few treats inside." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/deckbuilder-fans-should-check-out-this-new-humble-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:07]	TR Bot	fans should check out this new Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux
[09:14]	IsambardPrince	https://www.kpax.com/us-news/lgbtq/as-the-military-changes-policy-the-army-will-no-longer-accept-transgender-service-members
[09:14]	TR Bot	 As policy changes, Army announces it will no longer accept trans service members
[09:14]	IsambardPrince	"Beyond the hormonal and surgical medical interventions involved, adoption of a gender identity inconsistent with an individuals sex conflicts with a soldiers commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle, even in ones personal life," the order reads. "A mans assertion that he is a woman, and his requirement that others honor this falsehood, is not consistent with the humility and selflessness r
[09:14]	IsambardPrince	equired of a service member."
[09:17]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Bonanza Humble Bundle, Hardspace: Shipbreaker, TRX, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Games_Bonanza_Humble_Bundle_Hardspace_Shipbreaker_TRX_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Games_Bonanza_Humble_Bundle_Hardspace_Shipbreaker_TRX_and_More.gmi 
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Bonanza Humble Bundle, Hardspace: Shipbreaker, TRX, and More
[09:19]	TR News	"Russian [cryptocurrency] kingpin Alexander Vinnik returns to Russia in swap for Fogel" https://www.axios.com/2025/02/12/marc-fogel-russia-prisoner-swap-trump-putin
[09:19]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2025/02/12/marc-fogel-russia-prisoner-swap-trump-putin )
[09:22]	TR News	"OBS Threatens Fedora Linux With Legal Action" https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/obs-threatens-fedora-linux-with-legal:f
[09:22]	TR Bot	 OBS Threatens Fedora Linux With Legal Action
[09:22]	TR News	"I Have Nothing To Hide" https://odysee.com/@NaomiPrivacyTips:1/i-have-nothing-to-hide:f274
[09:22]	TR Bot	 I Have Nothing To Hide
[09:24]	TR News	pointedly omits mentioning CALEA and CALEA2 https://cyberscoop.com/salt-typhoon-china-ongoing-telecom-attack-spree/ http://techrights.org/n/2025/01/08/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act_CALEA_is_a_Fa.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2025/01/05/Credit_to_Jessica_Lyons_at_The_Register_for_Covering_the_Commun.shtml
[09:24]	TR Bot	Typhoon remains active, hits more telecom networks via Cisco routers | CyberScoop
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Techrights Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) is a Far Bigger Problem Than Some Unintentional Bugs (Not Back Doors) in Software
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Techrights Credit to Jessica Lyons at The Register for Covering the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), Proving That Authorities Do Not Want and Probably Never Wanted Computer Security (Except for Themselves)
[09:27]	IsambardPrince	https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-workers-who-voted-for-trump-doge-rto-buyouts-2025-2
[09:27]	TR Bot	 Trump-Supporting Federal Workers on His Blitz of Cost-Cutting Efforts - Business Insider
[09:27]	IsambardPrince	"I voted for Trump. I wanted to see some positive change," a federal employee of 17 years told Business Insider, adding that they didn't know that change would put them at risk of losing their job.
[09:27]	IsambardPrince	LOL
[09:27]	IsambardPrince	There will be some positive change.
[09:28]	IsambardPrince	Some of those federal workers voted for him and now they get to be the first ones in the bread line.
[09:28]	TR News	"Elon Musks Toxicity Could Spell Disaster for Tesla" https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musks-toxicity-could-spell-disaster-for-tesla/
[09:28]	TR Bot	Musks Toxicity Could Spell Disaster for Tesla | WIRED
[09:29]	TR News	"OpenAIs board unanimously rejects Elon Musks offer to buy the company | The Verge" https://www.theverge.com/news/613571/openai-rejects-elon-musk-purchase-offer http://techrights.org/n/2024/11/15/OpenAI_If_OpenAI_Survives_Another_2_Years_It_ll_be_About_30_Bil.shtml
[09:29]	TR Bot	 OpenAIs board unanimously rejects Elon Musks offer to buy the company | The Verge
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights OpenAI: If OpenAI Survives Another 2 Years, It'll be About 30 Billion Dollars in Cumulative Losses/Debt
[09:38]	TR News	"No Personal Liability For DOGE Yet, But With Two More Lawsuits We Get Closer" https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/14/no-personal-liability-for-doge-yet-but-with-two-more-lawsuits-we-get-closer/
[09:38]	TR Bot	Personal Liability For DOGE Yet, But With Two More Lawsuits We Get Closer | Techdirt
[09:38]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 15/02/2025: Spectacles and "Before Sunset", Moving Domains Out of the US https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Gemini_Links_15_02_2025_Spectacles_and_Before_Sunset_Moving_Dom.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Gemini_Links_15_02_2025_Spectacles_and_Before_Sunset_Moving_Dom.gmi 
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 15/02/2025: Spectacles and "Before Sunset", Moving Domains Out of the US
[09:41]	TR News	"TikTok returns to Apple and Google app stores in the US" https://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/americas/tiktok-returns-to-apple-and-google-app-stores-in-the-us-1861345
[09:41]	TR Bot	 TikTok returns to Apple and Google app stores in the US
[09:41]	TR News	"TikTok returns to Apple and Google app stores in the US" https://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/americas/tiktok-returns-to-apple-and-google-app-stores-in-the-us-1861345 http://techrights.org/n/2024/11/27/When_Social_Control_Media_in_the_European_Union_is_Controlled_b.shtml
[09:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights When Social Control Media in the European Union is Controlled by BRICS
[09:50]	TR News	"The Paris summit on artificial intelligence (AI) organized by France was held on February 10 and 11, 2025." https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2025/02/14/ai-action-summit-accelerating-whatever-the-cost/ | Source: La Quadature Du Net
[09:50]	TR Bot	 AI Action Summit: Accelerating, whatever the cost La Quadrature du Net
[09:52]	TR News	"Having spent nearly $300 million to purchase the US presidency for Donald Trump, Elon Musk now feels entitled to do with it as he pleases." https://fair.org/home/wapo-provides-cover-for-musks-government-takeover/ | Source: FAIR http://techrights.org/n/2025/01/25/The_Fall_of_Corporate_Media_Controlled_by_Oligarchs_Who_Boost_o.shtml
[09:52]	TR Bot	 WaPo Provides Cover for Musks Government Takeover FAIR
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Fall of Corporate Media Controlled by Oligarchs Who Boost (or Are Compelled to Boost) Reckless Lies About the Poor While Normalising Rich People's Crimes
[09:52]	TR News	Associated Press https://fair.org/home/ap-describes-musks-coup-as-penchant-for-dabbling/ | Source: FAIR http://techrights.org/n/2025/01/25/The_Fall_of_Corporate_Media_Controlled_by_Oligarchs_Who_Boost_o.shtml
[09:52]	TR Bot	 AP Describes Musks Coup as Penchant for Dabbling FAIR
[09:52]	TR News	"Critical Race Theory" https://fair.org/home/luke-charles-harris-on-critical-race-theory-2021/ | Source: FAIR
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Luke Charles Harris on Critical Race Theory (2021) FAIR
[09:59]	TR News	"Some federal workers given just 30 minutes to leave amid Trump layoffs"
● Feb 15
[10:10]	TR News	"Without permission or compensation, Cohere uses scraped copies of our articles, through training, real-time use, and in outputs, to power its artificial intelligence service, which in turn competes with Publisher offerings and the emerging market for AI licensing" https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/13/major-publishers-launch-copyright-lawsuit-ai-startup-cohere/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[10:10]	TR Bot	publishers launch copyright lawsuit against AI startup Cohere - SiliconANGLE
[10:10]	TR News	"Note that this fresh copyright does not extinguish any copyright in the component pieces you cant use this process for copyright laundering." https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/02/14/ai-image-gets-a-us-copyright-or-some-of-a-copyright/ | Source: Pivot to AI
[10:10]	TR Bot	 AI image gets a US copyright or some of a copyright Pivot to AI
[10:11]	TR News	"In this article, well look at all these issues." https://smist08.wordpress.com/2025/02/14/more-ai-problems/ | Source: Stephen Smith
[10:11]	TR Bot	 More AI Problems | Stephen Smith's Blog
[10:16]	TR News	"The Guardian has become the latest news publisher to sign a deal with ChatGPT owner OpenAI over content licensing." https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/guardian-openai/ it is basically a settlement http://techrights.org/n/2024/11/15/OpenAI_If_OpenAI_Survives_Another_2_Years_It_ll_be_About_30_Bil.shtml
[10:16]	TR Bot	 Guardian OpenAI deal: Publisher latest to sign licensing agreement
[10:17]	TR News	"The American economy is built on intellectual [sic] property [sic]." https://www.mlive.com/opinion/2025/02/is-that-article-stolen-why-media-companies-are-suing-an-ai-company-opinion.html | Source: Michigan News
[10:17]	TR Bot	that article stolen? Why media companies are suing an AI company | Opinion - mlive.com
[10:25]	TR News	"Sorry folks, turns out it was just a bug, and Apple has now rolled back the Netflix integration. Original story follows " https://www.pcworld.com/article/2609395/netflix-comes-to-the-apple-tv-app-sort-of.html | Source: PC World
[10:25]	TR Bot	comes to the Apple TV app (Update: not so much) | PCWorld
[10:25]	TR News	"Well, I woke up this morning excited about Netflix and I will go to sleep disappointed with them. I have two things to say here and one prediction." https://birchtree.me/blog/netflix-accidentally-gave-us-something-nice/ | Source: Matt Birchler
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Netflix accidentally gave us something nice
[10:25]	TR News	"I havent read all of those books. I certainly wont be downloading all of them. But I am going through the whole list and pulling out the ones worth keeping, so I can run them through the AntiDRMinator and be able to read them anywhere Id like." https://anniemueller.com/posts/painting-yourself-into-a-corner | Source: Annie Mueller
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Painting yourself into a corner - annie's blog
[10:27]	TR News	"There are a few reasons why some Kindle users might miss this feature. Its useful if you dont have access to a Wi-Fi network" https://www.theverge.com/news/612898/amazon-removing-kindle-book-download-transfer-usb | Source: The Verge
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Amazon will stop allowing Kindle book downloads to your PC soon | The Verge
[10:27]	TR News	"As you can imagine, the ancient feature doesn't get much use nowadays, that is, unless you like to break DRM, which is precisely what some in the e-book community use the feature for, downloading their e-books with an older version of DRM that is easy to crack." https://www.androidpolice.com/amazon-closing-kindle-loophole-remove-drm/ | Source: Android Police
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Amazon is closing a Kindle loophole that makes it easy to remove DRM
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[10:30]	TR News	"They call me, they send me voice messages, they leave pamphlets or people tell me" https://www.voanews.com/a/the-danger-zone-in-colombia-s-catatumbo-region-reporting-is-risky-business/7975256.html | Source: VOA News
[10:30]	TR Bot	 The danger zone: In Colombias Catatumbo region, reporting is risky business
[10:40]	TR News	 (NEW):  Does The PCMag Know of Writers Experimenting With Slop Writing? https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Does_The_PCMag_Know_of_Writers_Experimenting_With_Slop_Writing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Does_The_PCMag_Know_of_Writers_Experimenting_With_Slop_Writing.gmi 
[10:40]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Does The PCMag Know of Writers Experimenting With Slop Writing?
[10:47]	TR News	Techrights IDG 'Reviews' of GNU/Linux Now Contain LLM Slop https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/IDG_Reviews_of_GNU_Linux_Now_Contain_LLM_Slop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/IDG_Reviews_of_GNU_Linux_Now_Contain_LLM_Slop.gmi 
[10:47]	TR Bot	 Techrights IDG 'Reviews' of GNU/Linux Now Contain LLM Slop
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[10:50]		*martin (~martin@fbgkeg4k7qdm4.irc) has joined #techrights
[10:55]	TR News	"Tesla sued her for defamation for complaining publicly about the cars brakes" https://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/her-parents-were-injured-in-tesla-crash-she-ended-up-having-to-pay-tesla-damages-1861361 | Source: Deccan Chronicle
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Her parents were injured in Tesla crash, She ended up having to pay Tesla damages
[10:56]	TR News	"But theyre doing so without a list of specific titles or even clear guidance on what books to target." https://taskandpurpose.com/culture/dod-schools-book-removal/ | Source: Task And Purpose
[10:56]	TR Bot	 'Hillbilly Elegy,' 'Kite Runner' among books under review at military schools
[10:56]	TR News	"Journalists wishing to interview an expert outside of the Talibans list of 68 approved speakers had to seek the information ministrys permission." https://cpj.org/2025/02/taliban-ban-domestic-political-and-economic-broadcasts-in-afghanistan/ | Source: CPJ
[10:56]	TR Bot	 Taliban ban domestic political and economic broadcasts in Afghanistan - Committee to Protect Journalists
[10:59]	TR News	"Taiwans National Security Bureau said the number of pieces of false or biased information distributed by China increased 60% in 2024, to 2.16 million from 1.33 million in 2023." https://therecord.media/taiwan-using-ai-to-fight-disinformation | Source: The Record
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Taiwan using AI to fight disinformation campaigns, former minister says | The Record from Recorded Future News
● Feb 15
[11:01]	TR News	"TSMC is investing $65 billion in new factories in the U.S. state of Arizona, a project begun in 2020 under Cheeto's first administration." https://www.voanews.com/a/taiwan-pledges-chip-talks-and-investment-in-bid-to-ease-trump-s-concerns-/7974979.html | Source: VOA News
[11:01]	TR Bot	 Taiwan pledges chip talks and investment in bid to ease Trumps concerns
[11:01]	TR News	"EPIC writes in support of HB 307, the Internet Privacy & Safety Act. For more than two decades" https://epic.org/documents/testimony-for-new-mexico-internet-privacy-safety-act-hb-307/ | Source: EPIC
[11:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://epic.org/documents/testimony-for-new-mexico-internet-privacy-safety-act-hb-307/ )
[11:05]	TR News	"Codeberg reassures users in a statement." https://www.theverge.com/news/612857/codeberg-open-source-code-far-right-forces-spam | Source: The Verge
[11:05]	TR Bot	 Open-source code repository says far-right forces are behind massive spam attacks | The Verge
[11:08]	TR News	"In France, rightsholders have taken legal action to get large VPN providers on board with their pirate site blocking program." https://torrentfreak.com/protonvpn-site-blocking-is-an-attack-on-users-online-freedom-250214/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:08]	TR Bot	Site Blocking Is an Attack on Users' Online Freedom * TorrentFreak
[11:08]	TR News	"Police risk losing societys trust in fight against cybercrime" https://therecord.media/eurpol-chief-cybercrime-law-enforcement-powers-society-trust | Source: The Record
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Police risk losing societys trust in fight against cybercrime, warns Europol chief | The Record from Recorded Future News
[11:08]	TR News	"Its impossible for me to discuss the utility of a thing when I fundamentally disagree with the purpose of it." https://darthmall.net/2025/mia-suzanne-tech-ai-wtf/ | Source: W Evan Sheehan
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Miriam Suzanne: Tech continues to be political - Evan Sheehan
[11:08]	TR News	"And if necessary, we will file a civil suit." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/mexico-threatens-to-sue-google-over-gulf-of-america-listing/articleshow/118221334.cms | Source: India Times
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Google: Mexico threatens to sue Google over 'Gulf of America' listing - The Economic Times
[11:12]	TR News	 (NEW):  Fwupd 2.0.6 Brings Enhanced Features and Bug Fixes https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Fwupd_2_0_6_Brings_Enhanced_Features_and_Bug_Fixes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Fwupd_2_0_6_Brings_Enhanced_Features_and_Bug_Fixes.gmi 
[11:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fwupd 2.0.6 Brings Enhanced Features and Bug Fixes
[11:13]	TR News	"Virtually all companies use Open Source software, making a critical subset of the Open Source ecosystem crucial for everything from watching YouTube videos to working with medical records." https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-4149-why-and-how-companies-should-pay-open-source-maintainers/ | Source: FOSDEM
[11:13]	TR Bot	 FOSDEM 2025 - Why and How Companies Should Pay Open Source Maintainers
[11:13]	TR News	"On 2 Feb 2025, I gave a talk at FOSDEM 2025 on improving the sustainability of the Open Source ecosystem, titled Why and How Companies Should Pay Open Source Maintainers. This page includes information on this talk, as well as ways to submit your own feedback and views on these topics." https://vlad.website/why-and-how-companies-should-pay-open-source-maintainers/ |
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Why and How Companies Should Pay Open Source Maintainers
[11:13]	TR News	"I gave a talk on Why and How Companies Should Pay Open Source Maintainers, in which I drew on the philosophy of economics to explain why companies should pay maintainers, then built on my experience at thanks.dev to suggest an algorithmic way to decide how to split up funds across many projects in a dependency tree." https://opensourcepledge.com/blog/why-companies-should-pay-open-source-maintainers-FOSDEM/ |
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Why and How Companies Should Pay Open Source Maintainers (A talk from FOSDEM 2025) | Open Source Pledge
[11:14]	TR News	debanking https://www.citationneeded.news/crypto-industrys-debanking-smokescreen/ | Source: Molly White
[11:14]	TR Bot	 The crypto industrys debanking smokescreen
[11:14]	TR News	"More iconic even, was the visit to the Transport Museum Shop." https://hacdias.com/2025/02/14/elizabeth-pillow/ | Source: Henrique Dias
[11:14]	TR Bot	 Elizabeth Pillow - Henrique Dias
[11:16]	TR News	Is "Gulf of America" the "Crimea" moment of Mexico? Like with Greenland? The "American Putin" tries to legitimise stealing others' land.
[11:16]	TR News	"The canals predated the railway, and were critical to the success of Britains industrial revolution." https://heliomass.com/posts/2501-the-towpath-beckons-once-again/ | Source: Heliomass
[11:16]	TR Bot	Towpath Beckons Once Again | heliomass.com
[11:16]	TR News	"The trial began on Wednesday and is set to continue for three months, but the short-duration tickets are only available in a limited area near downtown Helsinki." https://yle.fi/a/74-20143746 | Source: YLE
[11:16]	TR Bot	 Helsinki public transport trials '10-minute' tickets | Yle News | Yle
[11:17]	TR News	 (NEW):  FOSDEM 2025 and Financing Free Software Development https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/FOSDEM_2025_and_Financing_Free_Software_Development.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/FOSDEM_2025_and_Financing_Free_Software_Development.gmi 
[11:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines FOSDEM 2025 and Financing Free Software Development
[11:20]	TR News	"The innovative system, designed by Italian engineering firm Aria Santa, features nearly invisible carbon-fiber blades with ultra-quiet motors." https://mihobu.lol/vatican-city-announces-innovative-climate-control-for-sistine-chapel | Source: Michael Burkhardt
[11:20]	TR Bot	 BREAKING: Vatican City Announces Innovative Climate Control for Sistine Chapel - Michael Burkhardt's Whirled Wide Web
[11:21]	TR News	"More surprising to the researchers was that most of the 15 common tree species studied were not gaining any ground in areas where conditions were more favorable, indicating that most tree species likely will not be able to move to more accommodating climates without assistance." https://phys.org/news/2025-02-climate-outpaces-tree-migration-human.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[11:21]	TR Bot	( status 422 @ https://phys.org/news/2025-02-climate-outpaces-tree-migration-human.html )
[11:21]	TR News	"The freeze jeopardizes dozens of projects to conserve wildlife around the world, from imperiled sea turtles in Central America to elephants in Africa. Grant programs from the federal government protect species whose habitats straddle borders" https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/399957/fish-wildlife-service-trump-funding-freeze | Source: Vox
[11:21]	TR Bot	funding freeze: How will wildlife conservation be impacted? | Vox
[11:25]	TR News	"Elon Musks collection of supposed coding geniuses brought in to disrupt government inefficiency" https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/14/doges-genius-coders-launch-website-so-full-of-holes-anyone-can-write-to-it/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:25]	TR Bot	Genius Coders Launch Website So Full Of Holes, Anyone Can Write To It | Techdirt
[11:25]	TR News	"If any of those former officials really believed that Musk was going to run with the opportunity to constructively reform the government" https://www.wired.com/story/plaintext-elon-musk-doge-youth-squad/ | Source: Wired
[11:25]	TR Bot	DOGE Squad Is Squandering a Once-in-a-Lifetime Opportunity | WIRED
[11:33]	TR News	"The doge.gov website that was spun up to track Elon Musks cuts to the federal government is insecure and pulls from a database that can be edited by anyone" https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/ | Source: 404 Media
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Anyone Can Push Updates to the DOGE.gov Website
[11:35]	TR News	"According to app data analytics firm Sensor Tower" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2025/02/13/tiktok-returns-to-app-stores-google-apple/ | Source: Digital Music News
[11:35]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2025/02/13/tiktok-returns-to-app-stores-google-apple/ )
[11:38]	TR News	"But while the news is welcome for both fans of the platform and content creators earning an income from the app, the future of the app is still uncertain in the US" https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/tech/social-media/tiktok-has-finally-returned-to-apple-and-google-app-stores-in-the-us-but-for-how-long | Source: Digital Camera World
[11:38]	TR Bot	 TikTok has finally returned to Apple and Google app stores in the US but for how long? | Digital Camera World
[11:38]	TR News	"TikTok has long faced troubles in the U.S., with the U.S. government claiming that its Chinese ownership and access to the data of millions of Americans makes it a national security risk." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/tiktok-donald-trump-apple-google-chinese-b2698136.html | Source: The Independent UK
[11:38]	TR Bot	 TikTok returns to Apple and Google app stores in the US | The Independent
[11:39]	TR News	"Apple and Google reportedly received the legal assurances they had sought in the form of a letter from U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi." https://siliconangle.com/2025/02/14/tiktok-returns-us-app-stores-following-ban-suspension/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[11:39]	TR Bot	returns to US app stores following ban suspension - SiliconANGLE
[11:39]	TR News	"It was not immediately clear what Trump was referring to when he said "90 days," as his executive order pushed back the ban by 75 days." https://www.dw.com/en/tiktok-returns-to-us-app-stores-weeks-after-trump-delays-ban/a-71602870 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:39]	TR Bot	returns to US app stores weeks after Trump delays ban DW 02/14/2025
[11:43]	TR News	"Alibaba Chairman Joe Tsai said that the Chinese tech company will partner with Apple on AI for iPhones sold in the China market, while speaking at the World Governments Summit in Dubai on Thursday." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/artificial-intelligence/alibaba-chairman-says-firm-will-partner-with-apple-for-ai-features-on-chinese-iphones/articleshow/118206284.cms | Source: India Times
[11:43]	TR Bot	 Alibaba chairman says firm will partner with Apple for AI features on Chinese iPhones - The Economic Times
[11:44]	TR News	"The firm warns that if your CCTV films or captures images of people outside of your property boundary, such as a neighbours garden or home, shared spaces or public areas, then it must be GDPR compliant." https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2013058/warning-issued-anyone-ring-doorbell | Source: Express
[11:44]	TR Bot	issued to anyone with a Ring doorbell | UK | News | Express.co.uk
[11:44]	TR News	"The firm cautions that if your CCTV records images or videos of people outside your property lines, such as a neighbour's yard or home, common areas, or public streets, it must comply with General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) rules." https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-fine-100000-misuse-ring-doorbell-camera-heres-what-you-should-know-1731037 | Source: International Business Times
[11:44]	TR Bot	 UK To Fine 100,000 For Misuse Of Ring Doorbell Camera - Here's What You Should Know | IBTimes UK
[11:44]	TR News	"A new lawsuit sheds light on the Department of Government Efficiencys (DOGE) work at USAID, with some employees alleging that DOGE workers had root access to computer systems containing security clearance data, including foreign contacts for an employee who deploys to conflict zones." https://therecord.media/usaid-staff-accuses-doge-improper-access | Source: The Record
[11:44]	TR Bot	 USAID staff accuses DOGE of jeopardizing safety, accessing security clearance data | The Record from Recorded Future News
[11:45]	TR News	"Texas on Friday announced it is investigating the Chinese AI company DeepSeek for allegedly violating the states data privacy law." https://therecord.media/texas-investigating-deepseek-privacy | Source: The Record
[11:45]	TR Bot	 Texas investigating DeepSeek for violating data privacy law | The Record from Recorded Future News
[11:46]	TR News	"US lawmakers want newly confirmed Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard to back up her tough talk on backdoors. They're urging her to push back on the UK government's reported order for Apple to weaken iCloud security for government access." https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/13/us_demand_uk_apple_backdoor_close/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:46]	TR Bot	 US lawmakers fight UKs Apple iCloud backdoor The Register
[11:46]	TR News	"All large language models, or LLMs the type of AI-driven advanced chatbot made famous by OpenAIs ChatGPT are built by first amassing massive amounts of data, and work in part by collecting what people type into them. DeepSeek, though more efficient than ChatGPT, is no different." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/deepseek-ai-comes-data-safety-concerns-chatgpt-openai-rcna189521 | Source: NBC
[11:46]	TR Bot	 China's DeepSeek AI is watching what you type
[11:46]	TR News	"Surveillance pricing is a growing practice that relies on collecting vast amounts of data from customers, making inferences about customer characteristics, and using those inferences to inform the price each customer pays for productsall to maximize profits." https://epic.org/krogers-surveillance-pricing-harms-consumers-and-raises-prices-with-or-without-facial-recognition/ | Source: EPIC
[11:46]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://epic.org/krogers-surveillance-pricing-harms-consumers-and-raises-prices-with-or-without-facial-recognition/ )
[11:47]	TR News	"The breaches by at least two individuals showcase the recklessness with which DOGE has been ripping through federal agencies and departments. Since President Donald Trump created DOGE through a legally dubious executive order" https://truthout.org/articles/doge-government-website-was-temporarily-alterable-by-pretty-much-anyone/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:47]	TR Bot	 DOGE Government Website Was Temporarily Alterable by Pretty Much Anyone | Truthout
[11:47]	TR News	"Free, local public schools are the U.S. default (making up about 83 per cent of elementary and high school enrolment), but other options include private schools (about 10 per cent), charter schools (about seven per cent) and homeschooling." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/school-choice-vouchers-programs-1.7456537 | Source: CBC
[11:47]	TR Bot	 The U.S. is moving to expand school choice. Could it impact Canada? | CBC News
[11:48]	TR News	"Digital thieves quite possibly Kremlin-linked baddies have been emailing out bogus Microsoft Teams meeting invites to trick victims in key government and business sectors into handing over their authentication tokens, granting access to emails, cloud data, and other sensitive information." https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/15/russia_spies_spoofing_teams/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:48]	TR Bot	 Suspected Russian spies caught spoofing Teams invites The Register
[11:49]	TR News	"And yet it began as a quirky idea by three former PayPal employees Jawed Karim, Chad Hurley and Steve Chen who activated their domain on Valentine's Day 2005, hazy about its direction." https://www.dw.com/en/youtube-from-failed-dating-site-to-pop-culture-juggernaut/a-71561377 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:49]	TR Bot	From failed dating site to pop culture juggernaut DW 02/13/2025
[11:50]	TR News	"The study pointed out that generative AI could create fake news stories about customer money being unsafe or memes mocking security, which could spread on social media through paid ads." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/artificial-intelligence/ai-generated-content-raises-risks-of-more-bank-runs-uk-study/articleshow/118241075.cms | Source: India Times
[11:50]	TR Bot	 AI-generated content raises risks of more bank runs: UK study - The Economic Times
[11:50]	TR News	"34 percent of Gemini, 27 percent of Copilot, 17 percent of Perplexity, and 15 percent of ChatGPT responses were judged to have significant issues with how they represented the BBC content used as a source" https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/12/bbc_ai_news_accuracy/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:50]	TR Bot	 AI summaries turn real news into nonsense, BBC finds The Register
[11:51]	TR News	"Even if Congress were motivated to fight back against Trump and Musk, or against a future president seeking to bulldoze the will of the legislature, the absolute power to command AI agents would make it easier to subvert legislative intent." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2025/02/ai-and-civil-service-purges.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
[11:51]	TR Bot	and Civil Service Purges - Schneier on Security
[11:52]	TR News	"One idea they liked was when I told them: If you understand linear regression, you understand Chat GPT. While this is obviously a simplification, I managed to convince them it is not far from the truth." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2025/02/whats-artificial-intelligence-all-about/ | Source: Rlang
[11:52]	TR Bot	Artificial Intelligence all about? | R-bloggers
[11:52]	TR News	"LLMs often exhibit error reinforcement. When youre trying to get them to solve a tricky problem, sometimes their first mistake stays in the context and pushes them to keep repeating it, no matter what you say." https://www.seangoedecke.com/learning-from-how-llms-think/ | Source: Sean Goedecke
[11:52]	TR Bot	 Lessons on thinking from large language models | sean goedecke
[11:53]	TR News	"Specifically, the group targeted Cisco switches and routers vulnerable to CVE-2023-20198 and CVE-2023-20273, two critical issues in the IOS XE platform that were disclosed in October 2023, after they had been exploited as zero-days." https://www.securityweek.com/salt-typhoon-targeting-old-cisco-vulnerabilities-in-fresh-telecom-hacks/ | Source: Security Week
[11:53]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/salt-typhoon-targeting-old-cisco-vulnerabilities-in-fresh-telecom-hacks/ )
[11:54]	TR News	"RedMike has attempted to exploit more than 1,000 Cisco devices globally. The group likely compiled a list of target devices based on their association with telecommunications providers' networks." https://go.recordedfuture.com/hubfs/reports/cta-cn-2025-0213.pdf |
[11:54]	TR News	"Attackers primarily targeted internet-exposed Cisco network routers over the past couple months, according to Recorded Future." https://cyberscoop.com/salt-typhoon-china-ongoing-telecom-attack-spree/ | Source: Scoop News Group
[11:54]	TR Bot	Typhoon remains active, hits more telecom networks via Cisco routers | CyberScoop
[11:54]	TR News	"In a memo sent Friday to all CISA employees and obtained by WIRED, CISAs acting director, Bridget Bean, said she was ordering a review and assessment of every position at the agency related to election security and countering mis- and disinformation" https://www.wired.com/story/cisa-election-security-freeze-memo/ | Source: Wired
[11:54]	TR Bot	US Election Security Watchdog Forced to Stop Election Security Work | WIRED
[11:55]	TR News	"According to The Drive's sleuthing, it's not a new issue, with the earliest complaints cropping up two years ago. But here's the most baffling part: the owner claims they had already reached 36,000 miles driven in their Jeep" https://futurism.com/jeep-ads-center-console | Source: Futurism
[11:55]	TR Bot	 Jeep Drivers Bombarded With Ads for Extended Warranty on Their Center Console Displays
[11:56]	TR News	"Canadian citizens wouldhave much better medical [care]." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-canada-51st-state-plan-healthcare/ | Source: The Nation
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Trumps 51st-State Plan Would Be a Literal Death Sentence for Canadians | The Nation
[11:56]	TR News	"That is, screens and all the technologies that accompany them are tools to make the world seem more predictable and less uncertain: infinite scroll; autoplay; the always-on live news cycle; the steady drumbeat of notifications" https://aworkinglibrary.com/writing/make-life-possible | Source: Mandy Brown
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Make life possible | A Working Library
[11:57]	TR News	"due to the extraordinary volume of inquiries and outpouring of support." https://www.tmz.com/2025/02/14/luigi-mangione-breaks-silence-first-statement-new-website/ | Source: TMZ
[11:57]	TR Bot	 Luigi Mangione Breaks Silence With New Website
[11:57]	TR News	"The two nurses Ahmed Rashid Nadir and Sarah Abu Lebdeh were stood down after a video shared on social media appeared to show them saying they would refuse to treat Israeli patients, and would "kill them" if they came under their care." https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/muslim-groups-condemn-sydney-nurses-alleged-anti-israeli-remarks/e2c72fcz9 | Source: SBS
[11:57]	TR Bot	 Sydney nurses' alleged anti-Israeli remarks 'abhorrent', Muslim groups say | SBS News
[11:58]	TR News	"Many silent movies were printed on unstable nitrate film stock, which is also highly flammable." https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/intern-finds-only-known-surviving-copy-of-the-heart-of-lincoln-a-silent-film-thought-to-be-lost-to-history-180986041/ | Source: Smithsonian Magazine
[11:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/intern-finds-only-known-surviving-copy-of-the-heart-of-lincoln-a-silent-film-thought-to-be-lost-to-history-180986041/ )
[11:58]	TR News	"All in all, this does not make a USB stick the ideal storage medium for long-term storage of important data certainly not as the only method." https://www.pcworld.com/article/2037550/how-long-does-data-last-on-a-usb-flash-drive-its-complicated.html | Source: PC World
[11:58]	TR Bot	long does data last on a flash drive? | PCWorld
[11:59]	TR News	"This is the 77th edition of People and Blogs, the series where I ask interesting people to talk about themselves and their blogs. Today we have Max Kapur and his blog, maxkapur.com" https://manuelmoreale.com/pb-max-kapur | Source: Manuel Moreale
[11:59]	TR Bot	 P&B: Max Kapur Manu
● Feb 15
[12:00]	TR News	"Most of my working life has been spent working in education, mostly for a K-12 school system in a large, mostly rural county but also for a small, private university." https://louplummer.lol/working-in-a-village/ | Source: Lou Plummer
[12:00]	TR Bot	 Working in a Village | Living Out Loud
[12:00]	TR News	"The aggressive campaign against the civil service parallels a long history of attacks against another type of public sector worker far more familiar to most Americans: teachers." https://www.vox.com/donald-trump/399600/doge-civil-service-teachers-education-government-trump-elon-musk | Source: Vox
[12:00]	TR Bot	Musk is using the anti-teacher playbook against the civil service | Vox
[12:02]	TR News	"The new administration seems unlikely to abandon science in its entiretyresearch into space exploration or artificial intelligence may well continue without friction" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/02/trump-science-data-gender-dei/681698/ | Source: The Atlantic
[12:02]	TR Bot	 The Erasing of American Science - The Atlantic
[12:02]	TR News	"They also needed to design a secondary mission, which in the case of LittleBlueDot included taking photos of the ground below to map it." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/cansat-a-tiny-can-sized-raspberry-pi-powered-satellite/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[12:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/cansat-a-tiny-can-sized-raspberry-pi-powered-satellite/ )
[12:03]	TR News	"Ive been interested in file comparison (diff) algorithms for quite a while. Id assumed for some time that the classical approach, which uses a longest-common-subsequence (LCS) algorithm" https://www.raygard.net/2025/01/28/how-histogram-diff-works/ | Source: Ray Gardner
[12:03]	TR Bot	 How "histogram diff" actually works
[12:03]	TR News	"This is a follow-on to my earlier post explaining the details of how histogram diff works, including a textual description of the algorithm and pseudocode." https://www.raygard.net/2025/01/29/a-histogram-diff-implementation/ | Source: Ray Gardner
[12:03]	TR Bot	 More on "histogram diff", and a working program
[12:04]	TR News	"Recently I was called on to explain the XOR operator to somebody who vaguely knew of its existence, but didnt have a good intuition for what it was useful for and how it behaved." https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/quasiblog/xor/ | Source: Chiark
[12:04]	TR Bot	 XOR
[12:05]	TR News	"Algebraic effects are a convenient abstraction for modelling the interaction between a program and the world. Programs are only a set of instructions." https://crowdhailer.me/2025-02-14/algebraic-effects-are-a-functional-approach-to-manage-side-effects/ |
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Algebraic effects are a functional approach to manage side effects
[12:05]	TR News	"I generate two large, random prime numbers, pp and qq, each of length 1024 bits. I then give you the product n=pqn=pq. Find pp." https://blintzbase.com/posts/cryptography-is-not-based-on-np-hard-problems |
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Why cryptography is not based on NP-complete problems
[12:07]	TR News	"But why? If youve known me for a while, you know a Cluetrain quote is coming!" https://loudpoet.com/2025/02/08/why-keep-blogging-in-2025/ |
[12:07]	TR Bot	 Why keep blogging in 2025? As in guillotine...
[12:08]	TR News	"Hang on, what does that actually mean?" https://andysblog.uk/why-buzzwords-kill-creativity/ | Source: Andy Hawthorne
[12:08]	TR Bot	 Why Buzzwords Kill Creativity | Andy's Blog
[12:09]	TR News	"The table he chose to use as a base is the Vittsj table from Ikea. It has a wooden circular shape on top that the sand rests on. Nguyen created a glass enclosure for the sand that fits on top of this wooden base." https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-dune-weaver-table-draws-images-in-sand-using-magnets | Source: Tom's Hardware
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Dune Weaver table draws images in sand using magnets | Tom's Hardware
[12:09]	TR News	"This is quite a complex product, designed to be an innovative open-source learning tool built around the Raspberry Pi 5 single-board computer." https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-projects/elecrows-raspberry-pi-powered-crowpi-3-educational-kit-offers-plenty-of-scope-for-learning | Source: Tom's Hardware
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Elecrow's Raspberry Pi powered CrowPi 3 educational kit offers plenty of scope for learning | Tom's Hardware
[12:10]	TR News	"The recent AMD processors (Zen 4) provide extensive support for the powerful AVX-512 instructions. AVX-512 (Advanced Vector Extensions 512) is an extension to the x86 instruction set architecture (ISA) introduced by Intel." https://lemire.me/blog/2025/02/14/avx-512-gotcha-avoid-compressing-words-to-memory-with-amd-zen-4-processors/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
[12:10]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2025/02/14/avx-512-gotcha-avoid-compressing-words-to-memory-with-amd-zen-4-processors/ )
[12:11]	TR News	"The table he chose to use as a base is the Vittsj table from Ikea. It has a wooden circular shape on top that the sand rests on. Nguyen created a glass enclosure for the sand that fits on top of this wooden base." https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-dune-weaver-table-draws-images-in-sand-using-magnets | Source: Tom's Hardware
[12:15]	TR News	[Old] "C is quite different, at a fundamental level, from languages like Java and Python." https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/cdescent/ | Source: Chiark
[12:15]	TR Bot	 The Descent to C
[12:15]	TR News	"To learn how optimizing compilers are made, I built one targeting the 6502 architecture. In a bizarre twist, my compiler generates faster code than GCC, LLVM, and every other compiler I compared it to." https://pubby.games/codegen.html | Source: Patrick Jordan Bene
[12:15]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[12:16]	TR News	 (NEW):  Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, AVX-512, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_AVX_512_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_AVX_512_and_More.gmi 
[12:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, AVX-512, and More
[12:16]	TR News	"The second part to my approach is to experiment to see what a potential future for the web looks like where we aren't beholden to the interests of tech megacorps." https://search.technomancy.us/why |
[12:16]	TR Bot	 technomancy search
[12:16]	TR News	[Old] "The UNIX terminal is an integrated development environment. Every single component necessary for software development is present. Unnecessary anti-features are largely not present in the UNIX terminal." https://0x19.org/posts/2021-12-04.php |
[12:16]	TR Bot	 The UNIX Operating System is an IDE
[12:17]	TR News	"Some would-be contributors are very familiar with programming, reading, and writing code, but they may never have opened an issue or sent a pull request. This is a scary first step. Others may have the necessary tech skills, but not the creativity." https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/14/youngsters_in_foss/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:17]	TR Bot	 Why are there so many graybeards in FOSS? The Register
[12:19]	TR News	"This release finally makes the encoder multithreaded! Furthermore, the decoder can now handle chained Ogg FLAC files. As always, a lot of things have been fixed and improved." https://xiph.org/flac/2025/02/11/flac-1-5-0-released.html |
[12:19]	TR Bot	 FLAC - FLAC 1.5.0 released
[12:21]	TR News	Debt of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing, but they have real assets https://finbox.com/NYSE:TSM/explorer/total_debt https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSM/taiwan-semiconductor-manufacturing/cash-on-hand
[12:21]	TR Bot	Complete Toolbox For Investors | finbox.com
[12:21]	TR Bot	 Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Cash on Hand 2010-2024 | TSM | MacroTrends
[12:26]	TR News	"I did one of those terminal surveys! As in, a survey about using terminals, not a survey thats terminal. Some of the answers are below. I didnt include duplicate questions, or ones where the answer is just a yes." https://rubenerd.com/a-terminal-survey/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[12:26]	TR Bot	A terminal survey
[12:27]	TR News	"Fast-forward two years and both Topiary and the Tree-sitter Bash grammar have moved on. As the incumbent Bash grammar was beginning to cause downstream problems from bit rot" https://www.tweag.io/blog/2025-02-13-bashfulness/ | Source: Modus Create LLC
[12:27]	TR Bot	 Bashfulness - Tweag
[12:31]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[12:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[12:32]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security and Windows TCO https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_and_Windows_TCO.gmi 
[12:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO
[12:37]	TR News	Techrights Links 15/02/2025: Erasing of American Science and Tesla SLAPPing Critics https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Links_15_02_2025_Erasing_of_American_Science_and_Tesla_SLAPPing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Links_15_02_2025_Erasing_of_American_Science_and_Tesla_SLAPPing.gmi 
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 15/02/2025: Erasing of American Science and Tesla SLAPPing Critics
[12:39]	TR News	SpellBinding LMOSTUY Wordo: SILKS gemini://tilde.team/~stack/gemlog/2025-02-15.gmi
[12:41]	TR News	PureOS Crimson Development Report: January 2025 https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-crimson-development-report-january-2025/ | Source: Purism
[12:41]	TR Bot	 PureOS Crimson Development Report: January 2025 Purism
[12:42]	TR News	Fwupd 2.0.6 Brings Enhanced Features and Bug Fixes https://linuxiac.com/fwupd-2-0-6-brings-enhanced-features-and-bug-fixes/
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Fwupd 2.0.6 Brings Enhanced Features and Bug Fixes
[12:50]	TR News	"Without further ado, lets get into the beginnings of Open Source." https://dieter.plaetinck.be/posts/open-source-undefined-part-1-the-alternative-origin-story/ |
[12:50]	TR Bot	 Open Source undefined, part 1: the alternative origin story | Dieter's blog
[12:50]	TR News	[Old] "Binary only software distributions do not advance the art. Secreted source code does not benefit the Linux community at large." https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux/c/06y4cr6wr7o/m/fZPOOaIMCCYJ |
[12:50]	TR Bot	 What would people think of binary-only software on Linux?
[12:50]	TR News	"As happens when you write something on the [Internet], people will reply and share their own analyses and disagreements." https://www.alilleybrinker.com/blog/postscript-on-open-source-software-and-corporate-influence/ | Source: Andrew Lilley Brinker
[12:50]	TR Bot	 Postscript on "Open Source Software and Corporate Influence" Andrew Lilley Brinker
● Feb 15
[13:00]	TR News	"With that in mind, I thought Id show you how to use content adapters to dynamically generate pages from CSV data held in a Google Sheet." https://harrycresswell.com/writing/generate-pages-from-google-sheets/ | Source: Harry Cresswell
[13:00]	TR Bot	 Generate pages from Google Sheets using Hugos Content Adapters | Harry Cresswell
[13:02]	TR News	"I say this as a recent(ish) convert, but there are very few situations where a personal project will ever reach the scale where Postgres is necessary. The truth is: [...]" https://rubenerd.com/limits-before-running-postgres-becomes-useful/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[13:02]	TR Bot	Limits before running Postgres becomes useful
[13:02]	TR News	"The thing isjust dont run SQLite server-side in production. Unless you have a really good reason." https://pid1.dev/posts/siren-call-of-sqlite-on-the-server/ |
[13:02]	TR Bot	 Siren Call of SQLite on the Server - pid1
[13:20]	TR News	Techrights Female Nazis and racist Swiss women https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Female_Nazis_and_racist_Swiss_women.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Female_Nazis_and_racist_Swiss_women.gmi 
[13:20]	TR Bot	 Techrights Female Nazis and racist Swiss women
[13:22]	TR News	"The initial goal was to support the (not so) new HTTPS record, which makes it faster to connect to the destination" https://www.ncartron.org/my-website-is-now-sporting-a-shiny-new-https-dns-record.html | Source: Nico Cartron
[13:22]	TR Bot	 My website is now sporting a shiny new HTTPS DNS record!
[13:22]	TR News	"Before Neovim, I used to use Helix, which follows the same editing model as Kakoune. Having experience with both, I must admit that I prefer Helixs selection action editing model. It is a lot more precise and less error-prone to see the selection before taking action upon it." https://pawelgrzybek.com/highlight-yanked-text-in-neovim/ | Source: Pawe Grzybek
[13:22]	TR Bot	yanked text in Neovim | pawelgrzybek.com
[13:25]	TR News	"The new release introduces the ability to specify web search links for custom columns. In more practical terms, when you click on item names in the Book details panel, you can now determine exactly where those links lead." https://linuxiac.com/calibre-7-26-update-brings-enhanced-web-search/ | Source: Linuxiac
[13:25]	TR Bot	 Calibre 7.26 Update Brings Enhanced Web Search, Metadata Fixes
[13:25]	TR News	"To be fair, most casual users of the FLOSS desktop-publishing mainstay arent sniffing around the bug tracker, and for the past few years it sure didnt seem as though much had changed judging by the clunky, dated interface and pixelated icons youd be met with upon launch." https://nathanupchurch.com/blog/scribus-1-7-0-from-strength-to-strength/ | Source: Nathan Upchurch
[13:25]	TR Bot	 Scribus 1.7.0: From Strength to Strength
[13:26]	TR News	"Krita can now be compiled (MR!2306) and run (Mastodon post) with Qt6 on Linux, a major milestone on the long road of porting from the outdated Qt5 framework." https://krita.org/en/posts/2025/monthly-update-23/ | Source: Krita
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Krita Monthly Update - Edition 23 | Krita
[13:26]	TR News	"The Kdenlive team has just rolled out v24.12.2, the second maintenance release in its 24.12 series, including multiple bug fixes, usability improvements, and enhanced compatibility for speech-to-text features." https://linuxiac.com/kdenlive-24-12-2-brings-bug-fixes-and-ui-improvements/ | Source: Linuxiac
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Kdenlive 24.12.2 Brings Bug Fixes and UI Improvements
[13:27]	TR News	<li>
[13:28]	TR News	"Mobile phones and social apps have now totally eroded the boundary between online and offline." https://phys.org/news/2025-02-tech-dating-complicated.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[13:28]	TR Bot	( status 422 @ https://phys.org/news/2025-02-tech-dating-complicated.html )
[13:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  A special Valentine's Day for Devuan! https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/A_special_Valentine_s_Day_for_Devuan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/A_special_Valentine_s_Day_for_Devuan.gmi 
[13:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines A special Valentine's Day for Devuan!
[13:30]	TR News	"The unofficial OBS Studio Flatpak on Fedora Flatpaks is, seemingly, poorly packaged and broken, leading to users complaining upstream thinking they are being served the official package." https://gitlab.com/fedora/sigs/flatpak/fedora-flatpaks/-/issues/39 | Source: GitLab
[13:30]	TR Bot	OBS Studio Flatpak presented as official package (#39) Issues fedora / Special Interest Groups (SIGs) / Fedora Flatpak SIG / Fedora Flatpaks GitLab
[13:31]	TR News	"For those unfamiliar with SELinux (Security-Enhanced Linux), it is a security feature built directly into the Linux kernel that controls what applications and users can access on a system." https://linuxiac.com/opensuse-tumbleweed-moves-to-selinux/ | Source: Linuxiac
[13:31]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Moves to SELinux
[13:32]	TR News	"The Chimera Linux project has announced a new snapshot of the team's independently-developed rolling-release distribution. [..." https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=12358 | Source: Distro Watch
[13:32]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=12358 )
[13:34]	TR News	"One noticeable trend in 6.11 is the introduction of XML/YAML linting across multiple libraries such as Attica, Baloo, Bluez Qt, Extra CMake Modules, and many others." https://linuxiac.com/kde-frameworks-6-11-released/ | Source: Linuxiac
[13:34]	TR Bot	 KDE Frameworks 6.11 Is Out, Heres Whats New
[13:40]	TR News	"In the beginning, which is to say the early days of Bell Labs Research Unix" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OldPATHProfusion | Source: University of Toronto
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OldPATHProfusion
[13:41]	TR News	How To Install Samba on CentOS Stream 10 https://idroot.us/install-samba-centos-stream-10/
[13:41]	TR Bot	 How To Install Samba on CentOS Stream 10 - idroot
[13:42]	TR News	How to Manage Ubuntu Boot Services: List, Start, and Stop Systemd Services at Startup https://net2.com/how-to-manage-ubuntu-boot-services-list-start-and-stop-systemd-services-at-startup/
[13:42]	TR Bot	 How to Manage Ubuntu Boot Services: List, Start, and Stop Systemd Services at Startup
[13:43]	TR News	Linux PDF Merge and Split: How to Combine and Separate PDF Documents https://net2.com/linux-pdf-merge-and-split-how-to-combine-and-separate-pdf-documents/
[13:43]	TR Bot	 Linux PDF Merge and Split: How to Combine and Separate PDF Documents
[13:43]	TR News	How to fix high memory usage in Ubuntu https://net2.com/how-to-fix-high-memory-usage-in-ubuntu/
[13:43]	TR Bot	 How to fix high memory usage in Ubuntu
[13:44]	TR News	How to Convert Texts into 3D Models https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/how-to-convert-texts-into-3d-models
[13:44]	TR Bot	 How to Convert Texts into 3D Models | Tom's Hardware
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[13:47]	TR News	"In this guide, Ill show you how to install and set up ProtonVPN on Debian 12 (Bookworm) with the GNOME desktop environment" https://www.tecmint.com/install-protonvpn-debian/ | Source: TecMint
[13:47]	TR Bot	 How to Install ProtonVPN Client on Debian 12
[13:49]	TR News	"If you are usinganUbuntumachine and want to set upTensorFlow" https://www.tecmint.com/install-tensorflow-on-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint
[13:49]	TR Bot	 How to Install TensorFlow on Ubuntu 24.04
[13:51]	TR News	"At the weekend, a Google engineer proposed raising the default Linux kernel timer frequency from 250 Hz to 1,000 Hz." https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/increased-linux-kernel-timer-frequency-delivers-big-boost-in-ai-workloads | Source: Tom's Hardware
[13:51]	TR Bot	 Increased Linux kernel timer frequency delivers big boost in AI workloads | Tom's Hardware
[13:52]	TR News	"Martins downfall came after a kernel maintainer blocked a Rust contribution, calling the idea of Rust in Linux a cancer, and..." https://tedium.co/2025/02/14/asahi-linux-kernel-rust-drama/ | Source: Tedium
[13:52]	TR Bot	 Rust Drama: The Deeper Tension The Linux Kernel Faces
[13:54]	TR News	"M5Stack recently launched the ASR Unit, which is an offline voice recognition module incorporating the CI-03T AI offline voice module. It is designed for applications that require speech recognition, voiceprint detection, and voice enhancement without relying on cloud-based processing." https://linuxgizmos.com/m5stack-asr-unit-with-ci-03t-for-offline-voice-recognition-in-smart-devices-for-7-50/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[13:54]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/m5stack-asr-unit-with-ci-03t-for-offline-voice-recognition-in-smart-devices-for-7-50/ )
[13:54]	TR News	"This month, Sipeed unveiled the NanoKVM-USB, described as a compact and low-cost device designed to simplify the operation and management of multiple systems." https://linuxgizmos.com/updated-nanokvm-usb-4k-hdmi-loopback-usb-3-0-and-integrated-keyboard-mouse-control/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[13:54]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/updated-nanokvm-usb-4k-hdmi-loopback-usb-3-0-and-integrated-keyboard-mouse-control/ )
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[14:22]	TR News	ECHR rules Ukraine violated privacy rights through covert investigation https://www.jurist.org/news/2025/02/echr-rules-ukraine-violated-privacy-rights-through-covert-investigation/
[14:22]	TR Bot	 ECHR rules Ukraine violated privacy rights through covert investigation - JURIST - News
[14:25]	TR News	RFE/RL Journalist Kuznechyk, Two Others, Released From Prison In Belarus https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-detainees-kuznechyk-mavchuk-tsihkanouskaya-russia-ukraine-trump/33313062.html
[14:25]	TR Bot	 RFE/RL Journalist Kuznechyk, Two Others, Released From Prison In Belarus
[14:31]	TR News	"Two St. Petersburg college students get five days in jail for shouting Ukrainian greeting in a dare" https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/02/14/two-st-petersburg-college-students-get-five-days-in-jail-for-shouting-ukrainian-greeting-in-a-dare | Source: Meduza
[14:31]	TR Bot	 Two St. Petersburg college students get five days in jail for shouting Ukrainian greeting in a dare Meduza
[14:33]	TR News	Like Cheeto and Putler working behind EU and Ukraine's back on "peace", this time OSI and FSF-EEE against FSF https://techrights.org/o/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/
[14:33]	TR Bot	 Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying Open Source is the Same (It's Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier)
[14:35]	TR News	Between Russia and MElon, German Voters Face a Dual Front of Disinformation https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/world/europe/russia-germany-elon-musk-disinformation.html http://techrights.org/n/2024/11/27/When_Social_Control_Media_in_the_European_Union_is_Controlled_b.shtml
[14:35]	TR Bot	 Between Russia and Elon Musk, German Voters Face a Dual Front of Disinformation - The New York Times
[14:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights When Social Control Media in the European Union is Controlled by BRICS
[14:47]	TR News	Promoting the propaganda term "intellectual property" while defaming the person who opposes it https://drewdevault.com/2025/02/13/2025-02-13-On-intellectual-property.html
[14:47]	TR Bot	 A holistic perspective on intellectual property, part 1
[14:47]	TR News	Public Domain https://hackaday.com/2025/02/14/3dbenchy-sets-sail-into-the-public-domain/ | Source: Hackaday
[14:47]	TR Bot	Sets Sail Into The Public Domain | Hackaday
[14:47]	TR News	From Courtroom to Canvas: How an Hey Hi (AI) Copyright Case Could Shape the First Major Hey Hi (AI) Art Auction https://ipwatchdog.com/2025/02/13/courtroom-canvas-ai-copyright-case-shape-first-major-ai-art-auction/id=186034/
[14:47]	TR Bot	 From Courtroom to Canvas: How an AI Copyright Case Could Shape the First Major AI Art Auction
[14:49]	TR News	LibreOffice 25.2: The first week, in statistics https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2025/02/13/libreoffice-25-2-the-first-week-in-statistics/
[14:49]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice 25.2: The first week, in statistics - The Document Foundation Blog
[14:49]	TR News	Moving Away From Certificate Authorities (CAs) Like Let's Encrypt Means Taking Away From the US Government the Power to 'Censor' Sites by Revoking Certificates https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/Moving_Away_From_Certificate_Authorities_CAs_Like_Let_s_Encrypt.shtml
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Moving Away From Certificate Authorities (CAs) Like Let's Encrypt Means Taking Away From the US Government the Power to 'Censor' Sites by Revoking Certificates
[14:50]	TR News	Security updates for Friday https://lwn.net/Articles/1009765/
[14:50]	TR Bot	updates for Friday [LWN.net]
[14:50]	TR News	KDE Ships Frameworks 6.11.0 https://kde.org/announcements/frameworks/6/6.11.0/
[14:50]	TR Bot	 KDE Ships Frameworks 6.11.0 - KDE Community
[14:51]	TR News	Google Seems to Have Just Killed All Instances of Invidious https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/12/Google_Seems_to_Have_Just_Killed_All_Instances_of_Invidious.shtml
[14:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Google Seems to Have Just Killed All Instances of Invidious
[14:51]	TR News	Corrupt Famous Criminal Bill Gates Worming His Way Into Richard Stallman Videos in Google's YouTube https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/13/Corrupt_Bill_Gates_Worming_His_Way_Into_Richard_Stallman_Videos.shtml
[14:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Corrupt Bill Gates Worming His Way Into Richard Stallman Videos in Google's YouTube
[14:52]	TR News	[Video] Richard Stallman Questions and Answers Session in Google's YouTube or Invidious https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/13/Video_Richard_Stallman_Questions_and_Answers_Session_in_Google_.shtml
[14:52]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Video] Richard Stallman Questions and Answers Session in Google's YouTube or Invidious
[14:54]	TR News	Home Depot Lamp Gets A Rainbow Upgrade https://hackaday.com/2025/02/14/home-depot-lamp-gets-a-rainbow-upgrade/ | Source: Hackaday
[14:54]	TR Bot	Depot Lamp Gets A Rainbow Upgrade | Hackaday
[14:55]	TR News	FSF fundraiser about to reach 450,000 dollars, almost exactly a month after reaching 400,000 https://www.fsf.org/appeal
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Free software is an important building block to a free society Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[14:56]	TR News	Using options() to inject a functions internal variable for reproducible testing https://www.r-bloggers.com/2025/02/using-options-to-inject-a-functions-internal-variable-for-reproducible-testing/
[14:56]	TR Bot	options() to inject a functions internal variable for reproducible testing | R-bloggers
[14:57]	TR News	KDE Frameworks 6.11 Is Out, Heres Whats New https://linuxiac.com/kde-frameworks-6-11-released/
[14:57]	TR Bot	 KDE Frameworks 6.11 Is Out, Heres Whats New
[14:58]	TR News	Streamline Your Logs: Exploring Rsyslog for Effective System Log Management on Ubuntu https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/streamline-your-logs-exploring-rsyslog-effective-system-log-management-ubuntu
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Streamline Your Logs: Exploring Rsyslog for Effective System Log Management on Ubuntu | Linux Journal
[14:58]	TR News	Linux Networking Protocols: Understanding TCP/IP, UDP, and ICMP https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-networking-protocols-understanding-tcpip-udp-and-icmp
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Linux Networking Protocols: Understanding TCP/IP, UDP, and ICMP | Linux Journal
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[15:09]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[15:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[15:29]	TR News	Techrights The 'Drunken Plagiarists' Are Harming Journalism About GNU/Linux https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Drunken_Plagiarists_Are_Harming_Journalism_About_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Drunken_Plagiarists_Are_Harming_Journalism_About_GNU_Linux.gmi 
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights The 'Drunken Plagiarists' Are Harming Journalism About GNU/Linux
[15:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: https://sports.yahoo.com/top-five-fastest-premier-league-164500259.html
[15:36]	TR Bot	 Top Five Fastest Premier League Hat-Tricks - Yahoo Sports
[15:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	haaland has competition now
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[15:59]	psydruid	Marmoush is turning Newcastle into marmite
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[16:11]	TR News	Techrights Strong Momentum for the Free Software Foundation (FSF) as Winter Approaches Its End in Boston or in the Northern Hemisphere https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Strong_Momentum_for_the_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_as_Winter_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Strong_Momentum_for_the_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_as_Winter_.gmi 
[16:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights Strong Momentum for the Free Software Foundation (FSF) as Winter Approaches Its End in Boston or in the Northern Hemisphere
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: he should cook the owner of NUFC in a tandoori over and tell Newcastle fans that he left the consulate safely, based on footage of a body fat double
[16:16]	TR News	Yandex way ahead of Microsoft in Asia https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/asia/#monthly-200902-202502
[16:16]	TR Bot	 Search Engine Market Share Asia | Statcounter Global Stats
[16:20]	TR News	Microsoft Bing fell to just 2.3% in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/africa/#monthly-200902-202502
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Search Engine Market Share Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
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[16:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydroid2: James McAtee makes it 4-0
[16:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	"James McAtee makes it 4-0"
[16:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	" GET IN!!"
[16:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	(the tandoori oven)
[16:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=FGEszUASrQA
[16:44]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=FGEszUASrQA )
[16:51]	TR News	Techrights Azure is Turning 17 This Year, Still Losing Money and Staff https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Azure_is_Turning_17_This_Year_Still_Losing_Money_and_Staff.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Azure_is_Turning_17_This_Year_Still_Losing_Money_and_Staff.gmi 
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Azure is Turning 17 This Year, Still Losing Money and Staff
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[17:19]	TR News	Techrights The Cyber Show (C|S) Speaks of the "Rise of the Nerd Reich." https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Cyber_Show_C_S_Speaks_of_the_Rise_of_the_Nerd_Reich.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Cyber_Show_C_S_Speaks_of_the_Rise_of_the_Nerd_Reich.gmi 
[17:19]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Cyber Show (C|S) Speaks of the "Rise of the Nerd Reich."
[17:27]	TR News	Labels gemini://nicholasjohnson.ch/2025/02/14/labels/ "One thing that has helped me get over my autistic shame is realizing that, when other people describe me in a negative light, it's typically because they perceive me as normal, and judge me through that false lens."
[17:28]	TR News	Do Autistic People Make You Uncomfortable? gemini://nicholasjohnson.ch/2025/02/14/do-autistic-people-make-you-uncomfortable/
[17:29]	TR News	"It has been a long time since Lantashi, the elf ranger, has been in action. Last night our Dungeon Master again ran that campaign after a few months hiatus." gemini://lantashifiles.com/gemlog/entries/2025-02-15.gmi
[17:30]	TR News	"Finally got a Lets Encrypt certificate for my AuraGem (and related) websites! Here's the new SIS documentation over HTTPS! :D" gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/clseibold/25429
[17:32]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 15/02/2025: On Autistic People, AuraGem Over HTTPS https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Gemini_Links_15_02_2025_On_Autistic_People_AuraGem_Over_HTTPS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Gemini_Links_15_02_2025_On_Autistic_People_AuraGem_Over_HTTPS.gmi 
[17:32]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 15/02/2025: On Autistic People, AuraGem Over HTTPS
[17:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: i am doing article abour your site
[17:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	want to check a draft to see if it makes sense?
[17:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	ETA 10 mins
[17:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	with or without feedback
● Feb 15
[18:03]	psydruid	https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/trump-has-free-rein-over-dutch-government-data
[18:03]	TR Bot	 Trump has free rein over Dutch government data
[18:04]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], sorry, I'm at a meeting
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	cool
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is a draft http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Alex_Oliva_the_Potential_Successor_of_RMS_Has_a_New_Web_Site.shtml
[18:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights Alex Oliva, the Potential 'Successor' of RMS, Has a New Web Site
[18:06]	TR News	Techrights Alex Oliva, the Potential 'Successor' of RMS, Has a New Web Site https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Alex_Oliva_the_Potential_Successor_of_RMS_Has_a_New_Web_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/Alex_Oliva_the_Potential_Successor_of_RMS_Has_a_New_Web_Site.gmi 
[18:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Alex Oliva, the Potential 'Successor' of RMS, Has a New Web Site
[18:06]		*psydruid hopes mr t & the rest of the a-team royally screw them over
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	royal dutch shell style
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	we can take advantage of all t his
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	not t o say   boycott usa
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	but to boycott gafam
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	because it works for thtese people
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	the gafam collectove
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	these:
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2024/12/18/GAFAM_Kissing_the_Ring_of_the_Mafia_Don.shtml
[18:09]	TR Bot	 Techrights GAFAM Kissing the Ring of the Mafia Don
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	pay GAFAM, then you are sponsoting fascism
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	(but not in these wwords)
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	need to refine our messaging over time
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	e.g.http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/In_Gopher_and_Gemini_Protocol_People_Abandon_Services_Based_in_.shtml
[18:10]	TR Bot	 Techrights In Gopher and Gemini Protocol People Abandon Services Based in the United States
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	tux machines will mention the new site of lxo
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	shortly..
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	let's give this some publicity while it's new and fresh
[18:24]	lxo	schestowitz[TR2], thanks for the kind words.  I suppose 'lex' without A is a typo.
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	wait
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	true
[18:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's ahypermark issue
[18:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	the A is there
[18:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not showing
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can see it to the right of the rms photo
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	it lost its  place
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	changed order
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	now looks ok in falkon
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: mentioned you also a min ago http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Tux_Machines_Software_Stack.shtml
[18:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The Tux Machines Software Stack
[18:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  The Tux Machines Software Stack https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Tux_Machines_Software_Stack.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Tux_Machines_Software_Stack.gmi 
[18:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The Tux Machines Software Stack
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	we'll probably have a  lot more time to write this year
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	less abuse against us
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	never back away from bullies
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	give them a taste of their poison
[18:32]	lxo	what is the footnote about?  was there a note about social media that was removed or something? :-)
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't think so
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's further up
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it relates to:
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/15/The_Cyber_Show_C_S_Speaks_of_the_Rise_of_the_Nerd_Reich.shtml
[18:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Cyber Show (C|S) Speaks of the "Rise of the Nerd Reich."
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy says "social control media"
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	many say it now
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it has really spread far
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	X is worth of mockery
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	just like Facebook
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	it can help people herd or weak people off those
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	*wean
[18:34]	lxo	I reserve social control media to those that control users.  freedom-respecting ones are each just a medium
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	it is a liability
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	trust me
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	i was pulled by trmanco into identica
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	in 2009
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it got worse over time
[18:34]	lxo	snac2 makes it not much different from microblog with integrated rss
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/
[18:34]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media: Where 'Cancel Culture' Thrives
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	the microsofters selectively link to your posts there
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	looking for some "PUBLICATION"
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	to 'cancel' you
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	no context, nothing
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	like pointing to some idiot in IRC log
[18:35]	lxo	right, no different from any blog or web page really
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then trying to say horrible things about me
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	web pages are better done
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	they have linsk and context
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you can cccheck them over
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	also, you control them
[18:36]	lxo	I still can't find what it is that points at the footnote though
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	no "moderator" actions
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	or people mobbing and brigading
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	ask Linus:
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/o/2023/07/01/grateful-for-brigading/ http://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/They_Will_Never_Leave_Linus_Torvalds_Alone_Rust_is_Just_Another.shtml
[18:37]	TR Bot	 The Corporate 'Cancel Culture' Industry Part II: People Who Defamed Linus Torvalds Say Torvalds Was Grateful for It
[18:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights They Will Never Leave Linus Torvalds Alone, Rust is Just Another Way to Cause Instability and Infighting in Linux
[18:37]	lxo	people will quote out of context, and resort to copying bits if need be.  it's not like it makes a difference how you publish.  books have been misquoted too
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	he said brigading
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	like he readd our series in TR
[18:37]	lxo	the problem is not the medium, but the people
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/08/When_It_Comes_to_Social_Control_Media_Linus_Torvalds_is_Channel.shtml
[18:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights When It Comes to Social Control Media, Linus Torvalds is Channeling Techrights
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> people will quote out of context
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	harder
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	for longer the page
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	then you control the narration better
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and people see things in larger chunks
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and cannoot brigade you
[18:38]	lxo	my experience tells me otherwise.  I've seen what they've done to rms's posts on his own web site
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	like hector martin did torvalds last week
[18:38]	lxo	to his speeches too
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	they violated licences in some videooos
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	by cutting them
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's ND
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	non-deriv
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	but they don't care
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	the goalll is to show anger or tooth stuff
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	people make mistakes
[18:39]	lxo	alleging one said things one didn't is even easier than cutting videos, and just as effective
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	but stillll
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	IME:
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	diaspora, twitter, pleroma, minds mastodon
[18:40]	lxo	but I'm not trying to push you into social media or any such thing
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	(and a few more)
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	being in sites like these invvvites trouble
[18:40]	lxo	I'm just reacting autistically to a claim that is objectively incorrect
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	people start seearching for sound bites that are politically incorrect
[18:40]	lxo	being alive and holding opinions invites trouble
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it makess it easy for employers, govsetc. to do the same
[18:41]	lxo	well, expressing opinions, maybe
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	not equally
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, it's true
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	but
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	in 1998 I wrote pages
[18:41]	lxo	you're saying publishing on web sites makes it less accessible to employers, govs etc?
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	and also in early 2000s
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	nobody nitpaicks on those
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	because it's harder
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: yes
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are amish-like
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	they don't know how t o use the web
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	many do not
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	they think in terms like FB, Twitter...
[18:42]	lxo	hey hi is "fixing" that for them ;-P
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are blind to everything elsse
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	i worked in such a company for 12 years
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	hey hi is non-starter
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	it geneerates BS
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then they need to reason about the BS
[18:42]	lxo	I've been misunderstood and misquoted in many different media and in multiple languages.  my experience tells me otherwise
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	liike they pass ssome query
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	it spews out false things
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it doesn't cite any  sources
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	LLMs do not cite sources
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	they cannot
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it turns out to be false
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	then they admi "the machine did it!"
[18:43]	lxo	email, blog posts, having blog posts republished, social media.  everything just as effective
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they look like fools anc cheaters
[18:43]	lxo	"screen prints" don't cite sources either.  that's why misrepresenters resort to that
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: different crowd
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	the "cancel culture" breeds in some places
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not other
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	others
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can ignore emails
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can also ignore other thingss
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you have @handle
[18:44]	lxo	sure, but they won't ignore you
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	then people expect you t o  reply
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like you are a citizen of X-land
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	i wasted much time
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	defending myself
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like 3 hours when naomi wu picked on me
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	and I needed to correct her
[18:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wu
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Naomi Wu - Wikipedia
[18:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Wu's activity on social media has significantly reduced since June 2023, reportedly after receiving a police visit due to her public criticisms of Signal and Chinese keyboard apps"
[18:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	They 'canceled' her
[18:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	after she was trying to cancel many men
[18:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	based on mostly BS
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: on a positive angle
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	contrary to 'cancel'
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	at the end you won't be judged by microiblogging
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	it might not be online anymore
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	people will judge you by work like articles
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	or what you did with the banks in .br
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	my personal ssssite is mostyl stuff i wrote 20 years ago or more
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	before writing more in TR
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	so, at best, posting in social control media is time wasted
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a lot of work going  into things people read one day and not the next
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	excepyt if they search for old "dirt"
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	companies delete entire web  pages all the time
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	because they value only one thing: money
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	and image relates to moneyt
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	they don't care about preservation of info
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	they'd also attack IA for things like Wayback Machine
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	which is, to them, only a liability 
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/01/IBM_Says_That_Half_of_Its_Assets_is_Basically_Pure_Fiction_Good.shtml
[18:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights IBM Says That Half of Its "Assets" is Basically Pure Fiction ("Goodwill")
[18:55]	TR News	"Like many companies, IBM is self-insured with respect to healthcare. That means that all doctors's visits, hospital coverage, etc. are paid directly by the company instead of some insurance firm. However, it also means that the company is sensitive to ongoing healthcare costs. Disabled employees are more likely to cost more in healthcare costs, so that is factored into RA decisions." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkw27we4
[18:55]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jkw27we4 )
[18:56]	TR News	Dictator Funding Freeze Decimates Womens Health Care, U.N. and Others Say https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/world/africa/trump-funding-freeze-womens-health.html
[18:56]	TR Bot	 Trump Funding Freeze Decimates Womens Health Care, U.N. and Others Say - The New York Times
[18:56]	TR News	Louisiana Health Department Says It Will Stop Promoting Mass Vaccination https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/13/us/louisiana-mass-vaccination.html
[18:56]	TR Bot	 Louisiana Health Department Says It Will Stop Promoting Mass Vaccination - The New York Times
[18:56]	TR News	USAID cuts threaten Americas most successful global health campaign https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2025/0214/hiv-aids-campaign-trump-crisis
[18:56]	TR Bot	Trump USAID cuts threaten HIV response around the world - CSMonitor.com
[18:58]	TR News	You can actually change the brain waves involved in depression and anxiety with this trick https://nypost.com/2025/02/14/health/meditation-changes-brain-waves-linked-to-anxiety-depression/
[18:58]	TR Bot	 Meditation changes brain waves linked to anxiety, depression
[18:58]	TR News	Latvian Radio explores radiology certification concerns https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/health/14.02.2025-latvian-radio-explores-radiology-certification-concerns.a587447/
[18:58]	TR Bot	 Latvian Radio explores radiology certification concerns / Article
[18:58]	lxo	it's time wasted depending on how it's used.  conversations on IRC can also be time wasted depending on how they're used.  ditto blogs, vlogs, and emails.  me, I like interacting to develop ideas before rendering them in a more or less final form
[18:59]	TR News	Andy Wingo: tracepoints: gnarly but worth it https://wingolog.org/archives/2025/02/14/tracepoints-gnarly-but-worth-it
[18:59]	TR Bot	 tracepoints: gnarly but worth it wingolog
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: the way irc is different:
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) no hostile people can directly contact you ffrom a hostile network
[18:59]	lxo	now, I *still* can't tell what it is that references the '*' footnote at the bottom of the article.  there's no other '*' in the article.  and the 'no thanks' meme makes that without the context that was presumably deleted very misleading
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[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	unlike mastodon and x etc.
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	the response  does not need many clicks
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	and peeople can come to the rescue if people abuse you
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	oh, i ffoirgot to add the footer at top
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	fixing now
[19:01]	lxo	bullying can take place anywhere.  people in charge of containing unwanted bullying are often bullies themselves, as I have noticed
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	fixed
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	bullyingg:
[19:02]	lxo	it's not the medium.  I've been and seen bullying over private messages and public web pages.  the distinction you're making doesn't seem to hold water, but I guess it relates to your own experiences
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	cannot happen equally everywhere
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you can physically retaliate
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	or there is security
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	the response likewise
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	in twitter you can have toothpickkkkkkkkk arms losers bullying you
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	while hiding in some cabin behind 2 keyboards
[19:03]	lxo	*nod*
[19:03]	lxo	I haven't brought up twitter at any time though
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	but here is the thing
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not all equal
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	fgactors
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	speed of response
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	severity of response
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	social fact ors like,
[19:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	imaginne someone in the queue tell you ,         hey fattie!!!"
[19:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	or similar
[19:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	(happened to me)
[19:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	the other people jump in
[19:04]	lxo	'been bullied at work for taking impopular stances.  and framed for things I never thought, let alone meant.  been bullied for things others read into things I posted publicly, too.
[19:04]	lxo	medium made no difference
[19:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	saying things back or even intervening, not just making faces
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	so that's society vaccining itself againsst bullies
[19:05]	lxo	being in a medium that enables a response can serve the bullies as well as the defense
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they cannot get very far
[19:05]	lxo	it's the surrounding group that makes the call in the end
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	or if someone in a tram or train or place verbally abuses passenger
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	(which happens a lot)
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	in twittr youu press report
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	wait 24 hours
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	bot says nothing wrong
[19:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it's too late anyway
[19:05]	lxo	I have zero experience with twitter, talking about it to me doesn't help
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	mastodon is twitter clone
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	same thing
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	except
[19:06]	lxo	I'm not on mastodon either
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are many 'bays'
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the bays have bridges
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	some bridges get burned
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	" Removed the link to @mastodon.social. Our account was suspended on grounds that are still unclear to us."
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html
[19:06]	TR Bot	 Updates | Stallman Support
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	3 weeks ago
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[19:08]	lxo	yeah, I know about that.  rms's own profile was censored on gnusocial.net too.  that's horrible, but that's a symptom of society.  the medium is freedom-respecting, it doesn't stop people from being bullies
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	look into why tiktok got banned
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	even if the dog shitlers brought it back
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	(Whistler
[19:08]	lxo	because it does unto its users the same that us corporations do
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	it censors, boosts for viral phhony outaages
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	like painting dalai lama as a pedo
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	among other examples
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	they became more naked about being propaganda tools
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	for their owner
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	and now MElon promotes the germany naazi party
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	with the ""better PR"
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	now you have your own site
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	and DNS is the risk
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	to you
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe some datacentre
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	or ISP is you host from home
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the ISP of the host
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	but they are reasonably well protected
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you would not get  deplatformed
[19:11]	TR News	Canonical is UPSELLING Debian https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-can-you-personalize-your-ubuntu-pro-subscription
[19:11]	TR Bot	can you personalize your Ubuntu Pro subscription? | Ubuntu
[19:11]	TR News	Canonical: security patches? THAT IS PREMIUM!
[19:12]	TR News	Also see: Vista 10, made in Redmond. Pay up or get pwned.
[19:12]	lxo	the .br registrar is run by .br government, so there's some risk there, but DNS is the least of my worries WRT deplatforming
[19:12]	TR News	Mark Shuttleworth (MS) took business model lessons from MicroSoft (MS)
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: another is
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	promoting your site via trhird parties
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	as they they hammed away at thge "firehose"
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	esp. if you tell people not to use rss but some "account"
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	which can
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) have THEM banned
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	2) have YOU banned
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	3) go OFFLINE (very common!)
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	in masotodon
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	1) their instance goes down
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	2) your instance goes down
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's chaos
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	in mastodon and pleroma  i lost 3 accounts
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	they shut down
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	even gnusocial...de
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	so why bother anymore?
[19:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you publish one good article you will get more "engagement" than "clicking" on people and "llking" things
[19:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	words matter more than "X became follower of Y"
[19:17]	lxo	it's not like having your own hosting saves one from that.  the cancel patrol can get an entire site blocked.  or prevent someone from having speeches transmitted live, or from speaking at all.  it sucks, but it is what it is.  it's not like mastodon makes them more powerful.  your argument resembles cum hoc ergo propter hoc
[19:17]	lxo	which I suppose makes sense because of its traumatic origin
[19:17]	TR News	Ubuntus Icon Theme Fixing Its Not-So-Obvious Bug https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/02/ubuntus-icon-theme-resized
[19:17]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu's Icon Theme Fixing Its Not-So-Obvious 'Bug' - OMG! Ubuntu
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: if you are a target
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	they can also murder people
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	literally assassinate
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it seldom happens
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	being a target is one thing
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	how they target the target is another
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can make that harder
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	re "the cancel patrol can get an entire site blocked"
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	i saw such attempts
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	blocked where?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	in one mastoodon instance?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	in one web forum?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	all instances?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	all ISPs?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	all countries?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	all hosts?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's very challenging
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	Even the CAs don't yet play that game
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	but  they WILL
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	theeey just keep quiet to hard more people in
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	without causing a panic
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	*herd
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	meanwhile each new version of firefox and    the chro*s iss making it harder to access  sites that
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	do not use some  "trusted" (read: Trump) CA
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	later they will phase out http
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	saaying it's not secure
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	and only https is OK
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	and only HTTPS controlled by MElon-over-GAFAM
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	Gemini does not have this issue
[19:22]	lxo	there's a coordinated moderation crew among fediverse operators that appears to be very vulnerable to false claims
[19:22]	lxo	it can get one cut off from large chunks of the fediverse
[19:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, not a new isue
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	see for example
[19:23]	lxo	I've seen lots of drama over this
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	from 2017:
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/21/mastodon-free-speech/
[19:23]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect Free Speech (Updated)
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[19:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/23/mastodon-is-oppressive/
[19:23]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Mastodon is Actually a Lot Worse Than Twitter When it Comes to Free Speech. Avoid It.
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[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	that was whej mastodon wass new
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	it already had this tribalism
[19:24]	lxo	but this is not software, this is people organizing around machinery that doesn't promote fair judgments
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	and network-wise bans
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	censorship basically
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: it's like EPO
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is no judgment
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is no legal system
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	t here are rules
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	they apply one way
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	from top to bottom
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	Deb Nicholson violated CoCs
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	months ago: http://techrights.org/n/2024/12/07/Dictatorship_Formalised_Python_Software_Foundation_Violates_Its.shtml
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights Dictatorship Formalised: Python Software Foundation Violates Its Very Own Code Of Conduct (COC) or Code Of Censorship
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	also seE:
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	(new)
[19:25]	lxo	snap judgments and no recourse.  I object to that, but it's unfortunately very common in society, and so it becomes very common in media used for social exchange, because it's inhabited and operated by people
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://lunduke.substack.com/p/fedoras-code-of-conduct-200-day-response
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Fedora's Code of Conduct: 200 Day Response Time, Only Protects You if Red Hat Likes You
[19:26]	lxo	it's only a violation if it's against the masters
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	so one can opt out
[19:26]	lxo	fake justice works like that
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not become a victim
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	i spoke to my dad today for 2 hours
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	and one topic was,
[19:26]	lxo	opt out of life in society, presumably
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	avoiding people who caused him stress or  distress
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's the same online
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	why bother playing along with these "master"
[19:26]	lxo	yep.  it's the same people, after all
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	at "best" they go  offline
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: no, that'a aBsssolutism
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	quitting  sociiety etc.
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	straw man
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can limit tyhe expose and risk
[19:27]	lxo	there's no escaping, no running away.  the only way to stand a chance of defeating them is staying there.  if you step away, they will come after you elsewhere
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	for instance,
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	RMS could say, use RSS
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	or, please do not follow me via some         third party
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: you cannot be everywhere all the time
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can try
[19:28]	lxo	one can't limit risk as long as one expresses publicly the opinions that censors wish to ban
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	and die trying
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	witch burrrning is old
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	the witches made gloommy predictions
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they got punished
[19:29]	lxo	not even trying.  you seem to have projected the absolutism argument onto me, but yours is a great example of that
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not an online issue
[19:29]	lxo	exactly
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	but some platforms are the rope and noose
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you can stay away from them
[19:29]	lxo	I don't buy that, but I respect your unfortunate experience.  it's just not mine
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	another risk is,
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	by association in such sites
[19:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	x is in sitey
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	thus, aall there are guilty
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	you post in mindsa
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	and some nazi is there
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	hence, you are "with nazis"
[19:30]	lxo	I see how that works.  some people have criticized me for having had my blog posts replicated on techrights
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's the rhetoric anyway
[19:30]	lxo	blog posts from a site I ran myself, mind you
[19:30]	lxo	running away doesn't work
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	some as taking photos with people you do not know
[19:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	or hang out in a shared site
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	where other users can be really horrible
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	braqzi, example:
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-48121067
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Man City star Ederson denies supporting Tommy Robinson - BBC News
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	*brazil
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://m.allfootballapp.com/news/EPL/Ederson-says-he-doesnt-support-Tommy-Robinson-after-a-photo-with-the-extremist/1341202
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Ederson says he doesn't support Tommy Robinson after a photo with the extremist| All Football
[19:31]	lxo	the solution to bullying is community
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes
[19:31]	MinceR	15 071650 < IsambardPrince> MinceR, I wish I could hack into the intercom at Midway and O'Hare and just put Administrator Breen from Half-Life 2 on.
[19:31]	MinceR	lol
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	and x.com is not a community
[19:31]	lxo	web sites are isolated, not communities, in my perception
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	i know you don't use x
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	mastodon is mmany weird communities
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	and some masters
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	that police them
[19:32]	lxo	yeah, I don't know why you keep on bringing it up
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	the masters are in charge
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	noot those communities
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	they burrn bridges
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	or extort
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	to cause some mods to burn bridges
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	"ban this or else"
[19:33]	lxo	you might as well be talking to be about how life is on other planets.  I've never been there, and I'm never going to be there, so I can't relate it with the present conversation.  i suppose it may be because of your bad experiences there?
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	    "Hey linuxrocks.online, you have a nazi infestation. Considering your instance seems to use only approved registrations, this surely raises about a million red flags."
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://exquisite.social/@thomholwerda/112852648322895829
[19:33]	TR Bot	HP-UX evangelist: "Hey linuxrocks.online, you have a nazi infestatio" - Exquisite.social
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	example
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	they call jews "nazis"
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then say
[19:33]	lxo	yeah, that's how it goes
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	censor them or we will ban the whole instance
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> you might as well be talking to be about how life is on other planets. 
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	there was never life on other planets in our soplar system
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	no evidence
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not even humans
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	we strepped on the moon
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it's not a planet
[19:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a useless dust ball
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	the rich might be doing rocket games in case of nuclear war
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe they reckon theyt can hang out inn orbit for a few months
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	ccccome back after the fallout is settledd
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	then walk into their secret bunkerr somewhere
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	and survive
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	with their "seed vaults" or whatever
[19:36]	lxo	I'm sure there must be life on other planets out there.  the space is too big, and the building blocks for life are so common, and once it gets started it keeps going, that it seems impossible that there's nothing out there
[19:36]	TR News	KDE Frameworks 6.11 Adds Search Providers for Nix Packages, Docker Hub, and More https://9to5linux.com/kde-frameworks-6-11-adds-search-providers-for-nix-packages-docker-hub-and-more
[19:36]	TR Bot	Frameworks 6.11 Adds Search Providers for Nix Packages, Docker Hub, and More - 9to5Linux
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: not near us
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not smart enough to come to us
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	the biggest gov in the world is run b y teens now
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and by "BIG BAALLS"
[19:37]	lxo	I'm not talking moon or mars, I'm thinking of the gazillions of galaxies out there.  I don't care if it's near or far, but the farther it is, the less likely we are to find it, but that doesn't mean it's not there
[19:37]	TR News	Fwupd 2.0.6 Adds Support for HPE Gen10 and Gen10+ Devices Using Redfish https://9to5linux.com/fwupd-2-0-6-adds-support-for-hpe-gen10-and-gen10-devices-using-redfish
[19:37]	TR Bot	2.0.6 Adds Support for HPE Gen10 and Gen10+ Devices Using Redfish - 9to5Linux
[19:37]	lxo	anyhow, this is a tangent of a tangent of a tangent
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, but that too might upset people
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	but maybe not as   much as other topic
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	like the guy we're suing
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	come here to IRC
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	in a tech channel
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	asking sttuff lllllllike,
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	"what is a woman"
[19:38]	lxo	the farther it is, the less it relates to my experience.  it might be interesting from a scientific pov, but it's not relevant to address bullying in our societies
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	in a tech channel
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and calling people "Rapist"
[19:38]	TR News	Calibre 7.26 Open-Source Ebook Manager Is Out with New Features and Bug Fixes https://9to5linux.com/calibre-7-26-open-source-ebook-manager-released-with-new-features-and-bug-fixes
[19:38]	TR Bot	7.26 Open-Source Ebook Manager Is Out with New Features and Bug Fixes - 9to5Linux
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> the farther it is, the less it relates to my experience.  it might be interesting from a scientific pov, but it's not relevant to address bullying in our societies
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	it will get worse
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	as more people sssink intto depression
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	and cannot get  out oif the whole
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	so then, t heir goal  changes
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	they  want to bring others down to their level
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	they cannot accept they are behind in everything
[19:39]	lxo	drag more people into the hole, yeah
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	money, careeer, health etc.
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they try to ruin people
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	and make it a "project"
[19:41]	TR News	Orange Pi AIPro (8T) SBC features a 8 TOPS Huawei Ascend Hey Hi (AI) SoC, runs Ubuntu or openEuler https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/02/14/orange-pi-aipro-sbc-8-tops-huawei-ascend-ai-soc-ubuntu-openeuler/
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Orange Pi AIPro (8T) SBC features a 8 TOPS Huawei Ascend AI SoC, runs Ubuntu or openEuler - CNX Software
[19:41]	lxo	so, that may very well be a reality (I have no reason to doubt it), but you think being a successful blogger/journalist will protect anyone from that any more than publishing vlogs, podcasts, microblogs, newsletters, whatever?
[19:41]	TR News	Go 1.24 Released with Fully Generic Type Aliases Support https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2025/02/go-1-24-released-with-fully-generic-type-aliases-support/
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Go 1.24 Released with Fully Generic Type Aliases Support | UbuntuHandbook
[19:41]	lxo	that seems to assign powers to the medium that it doesn't have, it make no sense to me
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	no, that's not what happens
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	best tto be away from those platforms
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	as they got worse
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	and now one is owned by MElon
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	which is just a reminder
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the fast-growing one is controlled by Maoists
[19:43]	lxo	society got worse.  best to be away from it is what I hear
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's more like political weapons
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	nothing at all to do with communications
[19:43]	lxo	and I disagree
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	society got worse since t he 80s or 90s
[19:43]	lxo	it's been getting worse for some 2M years
[19:43]	lxo	:-)
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	but in the ttech space there is more disruptionnn
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	bevcause of profiling 
[19:43]	lxo	and hey hi is going to make it worse
[19:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	for humans it got better for a while
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	not for all humans
[19:44]	lxo	so, what is the answer?  stay away from society?
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	but for most
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like, it wasn't good to be african for most of the time
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	no, adopt things electivel;y
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	mobile phone? no, thanks, they no longer exist
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	the towers demand new phones
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like 3g or newer
[19:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can still  live a normal liiife without one
[19:45]	lxo	banks and govt do, and it's been a losing battle for me so far
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	"soc med{"? nobody demands it
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	email? maybe.
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	some say creeate something in gmail
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	usually for login purposes
[19:45]	lxo	bullies do email too
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	very poor form of identity management
[19:45]	lxo	stay away from it
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	email is harder for this
[19:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	newsgroups maybe
[19:45]	lxo	(kidding, but that's what your argument sounds like to me)
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	because of the flow
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	in NNTP
[19:46]	lxo	it's not.  it's the same
[19:46]	lxo	because it's not the medium, it's the people
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	NNTP was used against me tooo
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	to hijaccck my name
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	to defame me
[19:46]	lxo	being a target sucks, but they don't care where you publish, they will find it and exploit it against you
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	to threaten me
[19:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	death threats too
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that may mean, NNTP is also not safe
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and IM
[19:47]	TR News	 (NEW):  openSUSE Replaces AppArmor with SELinux on New Tumbleweed Installations https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/openSUSE_Replaces_AppArmor_with_SELinux_on_New_Tumbleweed_Insta.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/openSUSE_Replaces_AppArmor_with_SELinux_on_New_Tumbleweed_Insta.gmi 
[19:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines openSUSE Replaces AppArmor with SELinux on New Tumbleweed Installations
[19:47]	lxo	RSS too
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it scales differently
[19:47]	lxo	you feel different is what I hear
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	RSS is more like many sites
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	connecting to one another
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and people connecting to those sites
[19:47]	lxo	like activitypub
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless you do "planets"
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	activitypub deals with blocks
[19:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	like user@some_instance
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	sites are user@user_site
[19:48]	TR News	Darktable 5.0.1 Released with Various Fixes & New Cameras Support https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2025/02/darktable-5-0-1-released/
[19:48]	TR Bot	 Darktable 5.0.1 Released with Various Fixes & New Cameras Support | UbuntuHandbook
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	you now have your own site
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	if some person wants to complain about you
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	then optons are
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	-employer
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	-dns
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	-host
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	-isp
[19:49]	lxo	rss deals with blocks too.  one can unsubscribe from rss like one can silence or block another user or site, and the server can block a reader as well
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	if hosted from home, then isp but not host
[19:49]	lxo	options are whatever the bully can think of
[19:49]	lxo	there are no limits to this kind of obsession
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	but limit the perimeter
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	and there are technical ways
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	inc. topollogy
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	moglen gave talks about how the network is arranged
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	and how it got centralised
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	and he wzplained why this was so bad
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	*explained
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	he said this in the context of nodes and  topology of seeervers
[19:51]	lxo	there are two kinds of difference you can make WRT them: whether you see what they're saying (e.g., you can mute them to you, but then you won't know what they're saying), and how their threats affect how you behave (e.g. you can self-censor to avoid a threat)
[19:51]	TR News	This is hard, but talking about feedback https://rubenerd.com/this-is-hard-but-talking-about-feedback/
[19:51]	TR Bot	This is hard, but talking about feedback
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: consider the non-online or offline example
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	br goalkeeper
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	trying to be nice to people
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	taking photos with them
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	then t he  far right takes advantage
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	to borrow his creds
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	so he exposed himself
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	to bad association
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	online, there are similar things
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i do not reply to emails much
[19:52]	lxo	surely the answer is not to stop being nice to people
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i learned from 20 eyars ago
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	people say you are connected to people who contact you
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	they troll rms  this way
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	then post to 3chan
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	*4
[19:53]	lxo	*nod*
[19:53]	lxo	so as to isolate the target
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	it works
[19:53]	lxo	the answer is to resist isolation, not join it
[19:53]	lxo	because the best defense is community
[19:54]	TR News	"The chief justice of the Alaska Supreme Court told state lawmakers this week that the court system is taking steps to reduce the amount of time it takes criminal cases to reach trial, a problem highlighted by a recent ProPublica and Anchorage Daily News investigation." https://www.propublica.org/article/alaska-judge-vows-to-curb-pretrial-delays | Source: Pro Publica
[19:54]	TR Bot	 Alaska Judge Vows to Curb Pretrial Delays ProPublica
[19:54]	lxo	the reason the bullies try to incite blocks is to separate targets from community
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: communities if a broad term
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are backstabbers
[19:54]	lxo	the answer is not to separate yourself from community
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	like ggreve become kirschner
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then using "fsfe" to attack the thing it's named after
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	people change
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	orgs change
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	and many thingsss can change
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	people fall out
[19:55]	lxo	bullies will always be there for us, that's never going to change ;-)
[19:55]	lxo	:-(
[19:56]	lxo	that's as sure as life on other planets
[19:56]	MinceR	(cat) (video) (audio:unimportant) https://imgur.com/gallery/HpO59et   =   https://rimgo.pussthecat.org/gallery/HpO59et
[19:56]	TR Bot	cat - Album on Imgur
[19:56]	TR Bot	 the cat - rimgo
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	treacherous communities were very common in wikileaks
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	and people who betrayed julian assannge
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	so many of them
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	almost all except his family and jennifer his barrister
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: i know people who got bullied
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	one lives with me
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	and theyy have their ideas about online bullies
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	having become their target
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can bullyy women apparently if yoou insist you are a woman
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	and try to sound like one
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	but just being visible attrcts bullies
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can report them to the police
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	the police gives tips
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	e.g. block them
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	do not engage in any way
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	even write about the bullies
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	and what they did
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it works
[19:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	eventuallyyy they get bored or flee, or both
[19:58]	lxo	as I said: <lxo> options are whatever the bully can think of <lxo> there are no limits to this kind of obsession
[19:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	true
[19:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	we agree on that
[19:59]	lxo	yes, being visible attracts them.  it would seem that not being visible is the only solution, but it sucks.  community is a better one IMHO
[19:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is the "girl and skirt" analogy
[19:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	no need to go into details
[19:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's the victim-blaming type
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[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	but if you dress up more, then it's less likely to happen
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can say,
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	that lets the abusers  win
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	or so and so
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that still lessens the risk to oneself
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	to troll me to my facee one can come to iirc
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	i got  abuse by email
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	i ignore it
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	some i block
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	some i can report tto the police a
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	a week ago i got extortion
[20:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	funded by microsoft
[20:00]	lxo	what I'm saying is that the notion that web sites are safer than microblogs is an illusion
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	they then sent the exportion in my post box
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	i can ignore that too
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	in irc MinceR  takes out a banhammer
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it sorts  itself out
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	<lxo> what I'm saying is that the notion that web sites are safer than microblogs is an illusion
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	epends
[20:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	1990s : geocities
[20:01]	lxo	it's visibility that attracts, and you can accomplish that on any medium.  I'll start worrying the day I cease to be a target, because that would mean I'm not making any difference
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	then stuff like blogs
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	then aws
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	the kinetics changed
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: if you cease to be a target, you lost
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	because it means you no longer rub a wound
[20:02]	lxo	gossip networks are older than computers
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	thhhe thing to strive for, ime
[20:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	is to make oneself harder to abuse
[20:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	orrr to make the aaaabuse more costyly
[20:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	so people don't bother trying
[20:03]	lxo	as long as your feed is public, which it has to be to make a difference, you're vulnerable and likely a target
[20:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can always leverage some things
[20:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	if the abuse passes a threshold
[20:04]	lxo	like not seeing what they're saying about you?
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"report to MElon (Twitter)" is a bad option
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	darwin triedd
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	he reported actual ISIS accounts
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	they do nothing
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	but they delete accounts for criticising MElon
[20:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	or reporting on Hitler's   butlller Vance
[20:04]	lxo	like allowing their narrative to prevail, undisputed?
[20:04]	lxo	I don't think that works very well
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	it does not work as well if:
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	-you have noo acccount there
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	- you do norreply
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you have aaaaaaaccount there
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	then people wait for a response
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	and assume silence means you have no defence
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	if guulagboy defames me again
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i do not r eply
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's because i cannot reply
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	i am not "there"
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i won't be
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	the way they work is to tease
[20:06]	lxo	people will just as well assume you left because you had no defence
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	and yyyou feeeel the "need" to reply
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	and thhen they drag you onto the cancel brigade
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	their "clique"
[20:06]	lxo	it doesn't have to make sense
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	they have not much power except that "zone"
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	twitter and masto   are not countries
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's just some servers spewing out bits at each other
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	and most people don't see, don't care
[20:07]	lxo	but you could respond on your site, "if you had a defence", and yet you don't, they could (mis)reason
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	people who are in these addictive networks think the world IS that network
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	99% of people are not there
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	not caring
[20:07]	lxo	the web is not a country either
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[20:07]	lxo	the distinction is specious
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	your ssite migyht be 
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	it is YOUR island
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	not you have your own
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	and can change host
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	can change many things
[20:08]	lxo	you had bad experiences there, and that seems to have become associated with the medium in your mind
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	DNS is your anchor
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	but you are a boat
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	we moves from us to uk 1.5 years ago
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	for the first time
[20:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	since 2006
[20:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	could not be better timed
[20:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	we left a year before usa became ussa
[20:09]	lxo	my site will publish what I tell it to publish (because it runs free software), whether it's by editing a file and pushing it onto a repository, getting it onto ikiwiki or snac.  there's no difference whatsoever.  it all turns into rss one way or the other
[20:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	i am on rss
[20:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	over dns
[20:09]	lxo	and it's all public and bullies will be able to see it and use it
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	which is linked to whatever ip you set it to
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	many your 
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	"smart" toaster's IP
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	*maybe
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	so nobody can block me following you
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	except maybemy ISP
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that's very improbable
[20:10]	lxo	or mine
[20:10]	lxo	exactly
[20:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	my ISP does not care about those things
[20:11]	lxo	social media to me is just rss feeds
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	oyt
[20:11]	lxo	it's all the same
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	like i said hours ago
[20:11]	lxo	I can actually subscribe an rss feed
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	in that article about your site
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are not the same
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	they started by advertising themselves that way
[20:11]	lxo	yeah, you keep saying that
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	and twitter DID have rss feeds
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	at the start
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	or some services
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	then twitter cut them off
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	at the api level
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	that was 2018
[20:11]	lxo	but you keep returning to twitter.  why?
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	now twitter and x are apps and webapps
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	since dec 15 2020
[20:12]	lxo	I'm not talking about social control media, I'm talking about media for socializing
[20:12]	lxo	rss feeds
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	socialise in:
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	comments
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	pingbacks
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	trackbacks etc.
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	technorati
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	the old way
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	even email
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	that can work
[20:12]	lxo	posts that people who subscribe my feed will see
[20:12]	lxo	that's all there is
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe it was social 15 years ago
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	now it's not
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	look at tiktok
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	you know why they ban it right?
[20:13]	lxo	that hair splitting doesn't convince me
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	they recognise it's a propaganda machine
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and FB is too
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	but this one is CPC
[20:13]	lxo	dude
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not some person who bows to Trump
[20:13]	lxo	stop changing topics, will you?
[20:13]	lxo	rss feeds
[20:13]	lxo	not mind control media
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	rss feeds are direct
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless via planets
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and many planets let you download opml
[20:13]	lxo	as is the kind of socialization media I'm talking about
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	so you can retrieve the people
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	piecewise, the master of the "planet" cannot hide some from you
[20:14]	lxo	planets are like instances
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	we wrote about planets before
[20:14]	lxo	they can remove anyone they like
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	and others did too
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, planets are risky
[20:14]	lxo	*dislike, better ;-)
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	they also limit scope of coverage
[20:14]	lxo	so, rss feeds
[20:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	by gropupthin
[20:15]	lxo	can you even tell what's the rss feed for my blog from the rss feed for my microblog?
[20:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i cannot publish xyz as some people in the planet might not like it and the owner of the planet will remove me from EVERYBODY"
[20:15]	lxo	I'm considering creating separate feeds per language in merging them from blog and snac
[20:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	germany green party did t hat
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	for germany and en
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	*german
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is an issue though
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	when you create many feeds
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	i did this 20 years ago
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	then people are fr agmented
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you have more to maintain (or merge)
[20:16]	lxo	*nod*
[20:17]	lxo	I'm not sure I'm up for that
[20:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://schestowitz.com/Bookmarks/local_feeds.htm
[20:17]	TR Bot	Schestowitz - Local Feeds
[20:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	" This page was last modified on April 5th, 2005 "
[20:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	that was... a while back P:)
[20:17]	lxo	but the fake distinction between rss feeds from both of these sites annoys me to no end
[20:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	better make one feed
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	a universal one
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	imne
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	ime
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	you might stop working on one
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	and people will assume you stopped writing
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	or you can make two CMSs
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	feed for each
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	then make a sieve
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	to merge them
[20:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	into one universal feed
[20:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	many blogger and  vloggers vanish because one platform owner decidess to kill them off
[20:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	(happens a lot in youtube)
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	then you hardly heard of them ever asgain
[20:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	they lack t he motivation to make high-quality stuff while they start all over again from 0
[20:21]	TR News	Good for him and maybe good riddance. He tried to grab other people with him (like Torvalds) on his way out. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Hector-Martin-Resigns-Asahi
[20:21]	TR Bot	Martin Resigns From The Asahi Linux Project - Phoronix
[20:21]	TR News	rust was always a problem, or a brewing technical debt
[20:21]	lxo	I figured people would prefer per-language feeds.  I name you as an example.  instead of following my entire blog feed, you followed just the english one.
[20:22]	lxo	on the blog I separate posts per language, depending on the extension of the file.  on snac, I'd have to implement something to that effect, or use separate feeds (accounts, hashtags, something)
[20:23]	lxo	I wonder if you could tell my blog from my microblog posts only from the rss though
[20:23]	TR News	But propaganda by LF/GAFAM, inc. Reddit and GitHub, discourages honest debate and fosters self-censorship, for which many people now pay the price. The "rust smugglers" have a political and corporate agenda. It's OK to discuss this.
[20:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	i don't mind PT posts
[20:23]	lxo	I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy some of the things I only post on snac
[20:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	or BR
[20:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	I can skip them fast
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	i had the same rss feed for over 20 years
[20:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	we have over 1000 rss feeds to follow
[20:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	they get fused together
[20:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	glancing at phoronix now through kate the kde text editor
[20:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it's mostly scrolling through text
[20:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	non-0english would get all red
[20:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	due to unknown words (for the dictionary_)
[20:26]	TR News	Plasma 6.3 Now Available http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Plasma-6.3-Now-Available
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Plasma 6.3 Now Available Linux Magazine
[20:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	hours ago i checked old political notes of rms
[20:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	i noticed top of page has only one link
[20:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	it is his rss feed
[20:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	to get to the homepage you must click and scroll down a bit
[20:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	so he decided the priority was to promote rss
[20:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	e.g. https://stallman.org/archives/2024-sep-dec.html#a_times_owner_blocks_harris_endorsement)
[20:27]	TR Bot	 2024: September - December Political Notes
[20:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	first line:
[20:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	" RSS site feed "
[20:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	front page links is at the very botton the footer
[20:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	" Return to Richard Stallman's home page.
[20:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	Please send comments on these web pages to rms@gnu.org. "
[20:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	if they want to leave abusive comments, it limits the scope to his inbox
[20:29]	TR News	Destruction and Distortion of Information, Including Facts About GNU/Linux (Bonus: This is Destroying the Planet) https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/12/Destruction_and_Distortion_of_Information_Including_Facts_About.shtml
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Destruction and Distortion of Information, Including Facts About Linux (Bonus: This is Destroying the Planet)
[20:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: http://schestowitz.com/2025/01/
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[20:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	similar scheme
[20:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	updated throughout the day, purely static
[20:30]	TR News	BetaNews' Managing Editor Wayne William Took Charge of GNU/Linux Articles and His Articles Are Real (He Actually Wrote Them) https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/BetaNews_Managing_Editor_Wayne_William_Took_Charge_of_GNU_Linux.shtml
[20:30]	TR Bot	 Techrights BetaNews' Managing Editor Wayne William Took Charge of GNU/Linux Articles and His Articles Are Real (He Actually Wrote Them)
[20:31]	TR News	They Will Never Leave Linus Torvalds Alone, Rust is Just Another Way to Cause Instability and Infighting in GNU/Linux https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/They_Will_Never_Leave_Linus_Torvalds_Alone_Rust_is_Just_Another.shtml
[20:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights They Will Never Leave Linus Torvalds Alone, Rust is Just Another Way to Cause Instability and Infighting in Linux
[20:31]	TR News	Slopwatch: Anti-Linux Articles Published by Bots, Dominating Surveillance Giant Google News (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/13/Slopwatch_Anti_Linux_Articles_Published_by_Bots_Dominating_Goog.shtml
[20:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights Slopwatch: Anti-Linux Articles Published by Bots, Dominating Google News
[20:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: fake RMS accounts in Twitter https://techrights.org/n/2025/01/29/Nazi_Twitter_aka_X_Became_a_Troll_Site_That_Lets_People_Buy_a_B.shtml
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Techrights Nazi Twitter (aka "X") Became a Troll Site That Lets People Buy a Blue Tick While Its Boss Actively Promotes Neonazi Politicians
[20:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	promoting very nasty things about him
[20:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	not just twitter http://techrights.org/n/2024/11/27/When_Social_Control_Media_in_the_European_Union_is_Controlled_b.shtml
[20:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights When Social Control Media in the European Union is Controlled by BRICS
[20:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://thediplomat.com/2023/05/how-a-ccp-propaganda-campaign-targeted-the-dalai-lama/
[20:33]	TR Bot	 How a CCP Propaganda Campaign Targeted the Dalai Lama The Diplomat
[20:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/tiktok-says-not-spreading-chinese-propaganda-us-says-real-risk-rcna171201
[20:34]	TR Bot	 TikTok says it's not spreading Chinese propaganda. The U.S. says there's a real risk. What's the truth?
[20:34]	TR News	BetaNews' Managing Editor Wayne William Took Charge of GNU/Linux Articles and His Articles Are Real (He Actually Wrote Them) https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/BetaNews_Managing_Editor_Wayne_William_Took_Charge_of_GNU_Linux.shtml
[20:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	lxo: short story is,
[20:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	they did to dalai lama what others do to rms
[20:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	using those platforms
[20:35]	TR News	They Will Never Leave Linus Torvalds Alone, Rust is Just Another Way to Cause Instability and Infighting in GNU/Linux https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/14/They_Will_Never_Leave_Linus_Torvalds_Alone_Rust_is_Just_Another.shtml
[20:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	" "that the social media brigading just makes me not want to have anything at all to do with your approach."" _linus
[20:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/6/1292
[20:35]	TR Bot	 LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.)
[20:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/07/linus_torvalds_rust_driver/
[20:36]	TR Bot	 Linus Torvalds to Hector Martin: 'Maybe the problem is you' The Register
[20:36]	TR News	An 'unfortunate incident' hits latest Ubuntu 24.04 point release https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/an-unfortunate-incident-hits-latest-ubuntu-24-04-point-release
[20:36]	TR Bot	 An 'unfortunate incident' hits latest Ubuntu 24.04 point release | Tom's Hardware
[20:37]	TR News	PCLinuxOS Recent Updates https://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=5914
[20:37]	TR Bot	Updates PCLinuxOS
[20:38]	TR News	Kalba language learning tool https://www.linuxlinks.com/kalba-language-learning-tool/
[20:38]	TR Bot	- language learning tool - LinuxLinks
[20:38]	TR News	Open TV simple IPTV app https://www.linuxlinks.com/open-tv-simple-iptv-app/
[20:38]	TR Bot	TV - simple IPTV app - LinuxLinks
[20:38]	TR News	Slim PHP micro framework https://www.linuxlinks.com/slim-php-micro-framework/
[20:38]	TR Bot	- PHP micro framework - LinuxLinks
[20:40]	TR News	BUT is WAS terrorism! https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/prevent-duty-redefining-terrorism-in-the-wake-of-southport-attacks/
[20:40]	TR Bot	 Prevent Duty: Redefining terrorism in the wake of the Southport attacks | Open Rights Group
[20:40]	TR News	7 Best Free and Open Source GUI Electronic Circuit Simulators https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-gui-electronic-circuit-simulators/
[20:40]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source GUI Electronic Circuit Simulators - LinuxLinks
[20:41]	TR News	greentext create green-text memes https://www.linuxlinks.com/greentext-create-green-text-memes/
[20:41]	TR Bot	- create green-text memes - LinuxLinks
[20:41]	TR News	Flight fast, simple, extensible framework for PHP https://www.linuxlinks.com/flight-fast-simple-extensible-framework/
[20:41]	TR Bot	- fast, simple, extensible framework for PHP - LinuxLinks
[20:42]	TR News	fileobj ncurses based hex editor https://www.linuxlinks.com/fileobj-ncurses-based-hex-editor/
[20:42]	TR Bot	- ncurses based hex editor - LinuxLinks
[20:43]	TR News	Paste69 pastebin tool https://www.linuxlinks.com/paste69-pastebin-tool/
[20:43]	TR Bot	- pastebin tool - LinuxLinks
[20:43]	TR News	Refine tweak various aspects of GNOME https://www.linuxlinks.com/refine-tweak-aspects-gnome/
[20:43]	TR Bot	- tweak various aspects of GNOME - LinuxLinks
[20:44]	TR News	In Other News: $10,000 YouTube Flaw, Cybereason CEO Sues Investors, New OT Security Tool https://www.securityweek.com/in-other-news-10000-youtube-flaw-cybereason-ceo-sues-investors-new-ot-security-tool/
[20:44]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/in-other-news-10000-youtube-flaw-cybereason-ceo-sues-investors-new-ot-security-tool/ )
[20:44]	TR News	19 Best Free and Open Source GNU/Linux Time Tracking Software https://www.linuxlinks.com/timetracking/
[20:44]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source Linux Time Tracking Software - LinuxLinks
[20:44]	TR News	HardV terminal-based flashcard tool https://www.linuxlinks.com/hardv-terminal-based-flashcard-tool/
[20:45]	TR Bot	- terminal-based flashcard tool - LinuxLinks
[20:45]	TR News	Volta JavaScript Tool Manager https://www.linuxlinks.com/volta-javascript-tool-manager/
[20:45]	TR Bot	- JavaScript Tool Manager - LinuxLinks
[20:45]	TR News	Universal ball joint created in SolveSpace https://bkhome.org/news/202502/universal-ball-joint-created-in-solvespace.html
[20:45]	TR Bot	 Universal ball joint created in SolveSpace
[20:46]	TR News	Hey Hi (AI) Action Summit: a missed opportunity for human-rights centered Hey Hi (AI) governance https://www.accessnow.org/press-release/ai-action-summit-a-missed-opportunity-for-human-rights-centered-ai-governance/ Hey Hi (AI) name-dropping, fluff, and red herrings....
[20:46]	TR Bot	 AI Action Summit: a missed opportunity for human-rights
[20:47]	TR News	algorithms always did intelligent things, as guided by intelligent programmers, even before bribed publishers got paid to call everything Hey Hi (AI) and pretend it was the best thing since sliced bread... "pretend innovation"
[20:49]	TR News	PostgreSQL 17.3, 16.7, 15.11, 14.16, and 13.19 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-173-167-1511-1416-and-1319-released-3015/
[20:49]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL 17.3, 16.7, 15.11, 14.16, and 13.19 Released!
[20:50]	TR News	Karl Dubost: Some Ways To Contribute To WebKit and Web Interoperability https://www.otsukare.info/2025/02/14/contribute-webkit
[20:50]	TR Bot	 Some Ways To Contribute To WebKit and Web Interoperability - otsukare
[20:51]	TR News	Canonical may not even exist that long https://www.webpronews.com/ubuntu-maker-canonical-announces-kubernetes-lts/
[20:51]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Maker Canonical Announces Kubernetes LTS
[20:52]	TR News	"The Yaru icon theme in Ubuntu uses 4 different shapes for its app, folder and mimetype (file) icons, with a shape picked based on what works best for the design motif being used." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/02/ubuntus-icon-theme-resized
[20:52]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu's Icon Theme Fixing Its Not-So-Obvious 'Bug' - OMG! Ubuntu
[20:53]	TR News	There's LLM slop in this 'review' https://uk.pcmag.com/mobile-operating-system-2/127069/ubuntu-2004-focal-fossa http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Does_The_PCMag_Know_of_Writers_Experimenting_With_Slop_Writing.shtml
[20:53]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 24.10 (Oracular Oriole) - Review 2025 - PCMag UK
[20:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Does The PCMag Know of Writers Experimenting With Slop Writing?
[20:53]	TR News	"Gupta reports that "Due to an unfortunate incident, it appears that some 24.04.2 images built this week did not include the HWE kernel. To be consistent across all images, we've decided to respin the images and delay the Noble 24.04.2 by a week." https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/an-unfortunate-incident-hits-latest-ubuntu-24-04-point-release
[20:53]	TR Bot	 An 'unfortunate incident' hits latest Ubuntu 24.04 point release | Tom's Hardware
[20:54]	TR News	Ragequit as same ol' 'kamikaze' attack on Torvalds https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/13/ashai_linux_head_quits/
[20:54]	TR Bot	 Asahi Linux head quits, citing kernel leadership failure The Register
[20:55]	TR News	"Asahi Linux, the project bringing a native Linux desktop to Apple Silicon-based Mac computers, has hit some roadblocks with development and hardware support. The projects founder is also retiring." https://www.howtogeek.com/asahi-linux-reorganization-m3-m4-mac-support/
[20:55]	TR Bot	 Asahi Linux Gets a Reboot, Still Working On M3 & M4 Mac Support
[20:55]	TR News	"2025 roadmap includes DisplayPort Alt Mode, DirectX 12, and internal mic support." https://liliputing.com/lilbits-new-apple-hardware-asahi-linux-shakeup-android-16-beta-2-and-amazon-makes-backing-up-kindle-ebooks-tougher/
[20:55]	TR Bot	New Apple hardware, Asahi Linux shakeup, Android 16 Beta 2, and Amazon makes backing up Kindle eBooks tougher, - Liliputing
[20:57]	TR News	"KDE Frameworks 6.11 continues the monthly KDE Frameworks releases with new search providers for KRunner and KRunner-powered search fields, including Docker Hub, Mozilla Developer Network, and Nix Packages." https://9to5linux.com/kde-frameworks-6-11-adds-search-providers-for-nix-packages-docker-hub-and-more
[20:57]	TR Bot	Frameworks 6.11 Adds Search Providers for Nix Packages, Docker Hub, and More - 9to5Linux
[20:58]	TR News	"openSUSE Tumbleweed has changed its default mandatory access control (MAC) system." https://news.itsfoss.com/opensuse-ditches-apparmor/
[20:58]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Ditches AppArmor for SELinux
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[21:00]	TR News	Open Sue! OBS Studio Threatens Fedora With Legal Action https://news.itsfoss.com/obs-studio-fedora-feud/
[21:00]	TR Bot	 Open Sue! OBS Studio Threatens Fedora With Legal Action
[21:01]	TR News	The real issue is, IBM drove out almost all of the Fedora community and also commanded that key Red Hat staff STOPS compiling programs. IBM is ruining Fedora and gives FOSS projects a bad name.
[21:02]	TR News	"Fwupd 2.0.6 has been released today as the sixth maintenance update to the latest fwupd 2.0 release of this open-source Linux firmware update utility for Linux-based operating systems." https://9to5linux.com/fwupd-2-0-6-adds-support-for-hpe-gen10-and-gen10-devices-using-redfish
[21:02]	TR Bot	2.0.6 Adds Support for HPE Gen10 and Gen10+ Devices Using Redfish - 9to5Linux
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[21:02]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed Adopts SELinux as Default Over AppArmor https://www.webpronews.com/opensuse-tumbleweed-adopts-selinux-as-default-over-apparmor/
[21:02]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Adopts SELinux as Default Over AppArmor
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[21:03]	TR News	FAKE article!! SLOP!! https://cybersecuritynews.com/ref7707-hackers-attacking-windows-linux-machines/ https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/04/Anti_Linux_FUD_Sites_cybersecuritynews_com_and_gbhackers_com_Tu.shtml
[21:03]	TR Bot	 REF7707 Hackers Attacking Windows & Linux Machines Using FINALDRAFT Malware
[21:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights Anti-Linux FUD Sites cybersecuritynews.com and gbhackers.com Turn Out to be LLM Slop, Even Plagiarism That Spreads Lies
[21:04]	TR News	Linux is now running inside a PDF because people are amazing https://readwrite.com/linux-is-now-running-inside-a-pdf-because-people-are-amazing/
[21:04]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://readwrite.com/linux-is-now-running-inside-a-pdf-because-people-are-amazing/ )
[21:05]	TR News	"While the Tomb Raider I-III Remastered collection does exist, this project works with the originals and enhances them. You do need to own the games to run through TRX. You can grab them from GOG or Steam." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/tomb-raider-ii-open-source-re-implementation-adds-linux-support/
[21:05]	TR Bot	Raider II open source re-implementation adds Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[21:06]	TR News	FAKE FAKE FAKE https://gbhackers.com/ref7707-hackers-target-windows-linux-systems/ https://techrights.org/n/2025/02/04/Anti_Linux_FUD_Sites_cybersecuritynews_com_and_gbhackers_com_Tu.shtml
[21:06]	TR Bot	 REF7707 Hackers Target Windows & Linux Systems with FINALDRAFT Malware
[21:06]	TR News	"The Art of Unix Programming (TAoUP), by Eric S. Raymond, is not a tutorial or how-to book. Instead, it is a book about the history and philosophy of Unix. But no other book has had a greater influence on my approach to Linux/macOS, or my everyday use of it. Here are just a few of the things it has taught me." https://www.howtogeek.com/this-book-taught-me-must-know-facts-about-linux/
[21:06]	TR Bot	 This Book Taught Me 6 Must-Know Facts About Linux
[21:06]	TR News	"Heck, Bazzite even got a shout out in a recent Marvel Rival's patch note. More and more are taking notice of Linux for gaming, thanks to how actually easy it is to get going now. And a lot of it, of course, thanks to Valve with the Steam Deck making it truly accessible to millions of gamers." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/steamos-like-bazzite-linux-has-some-nice-growth-thanks-to-great-handheld-pc-support/
[21:06]	TR Bot	Bazzite Linux has some nice growth thanks to great handheld PC support | GamingOnLinux
[21:07]	TR News	Asahi Linux lead resigns from Mac-based distro after tumultuous kernel debate https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/asahi-linux-lead-resigns-from-mac-based-distro-after-tumultuous-kernel-debate/
[21:07]	TR Bot	 Asahi Linux lead resigns from Mac-based distro after tumultuous kernel debate - Ars Technica
[21:07]	nobody	schestowitz[TR2]: "Rust's memory safety features"... i think it is mostly compiler/toolchain features, that rust lang depends on
[21:07]	nobody	but too C language can integrate with modern compiler/toolchain features for "memory safety"
[21:07]	MinceR	it seems to mostly depend on the cultists claiming it does things it actually doesn't
[21:08]	MinceR	and on MICROS~1's backing
[21:08]	nobody	this has to be discussed separately, which compiler/toolchain features are desireable for kernel
[21:08]	nobody	not all of those are btw.; for example W^X policy enforcement clashes with POSIX, bounds-checking is performance critical, etc. etc.
[21:09]	nobody	furthermore, kernel security features do exist, which are not at all related to either C language nor the compiler/toolchain chosen
[21:09]	nobody	for example, ASLR can be applied regardless of any, that's what i decided to patch into linux-2.4 kernel maintenance that i picked up
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[21:10]	nobody	MinceR: they're not at least willing to discuss this on technical grounds
[21:10]	nobody	and noones listenting to me anyway
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[21:12]	nobody	in any case, linux kernel cannot be compiled/linked with alternative toolchains
[21:13]	nobody	linux-2.4 was the _last_ version that i could confirm, and that's very interesting because it is completely out of scope of any discussion
[21:13]	nobody	why that would be
[21:13]	nobody	but i am curious, why kernel developers didn't bother with verification against alternative toolchain/compilers
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[21:14]	nobody	there's several, such as PCC, tinycc
[21:14]	nobody	swapping toolchain occasionally too reveals side-effects and bugs, with either compiler or kernel
[21:15]	nobody	btw. since i salvaged a complete(!) system profile for support with tinycc, this implied significant test-coverage for regression testing tinycc itself
[21:16]	nobody	currently i am fully forking against gentoo portage, i can't dispose python yet, but i don't want to keep my tree associated to offical gentoo tree
[21:17]	nobody	for several treasons, beginning with the fact most important builds and versions aren't maintained with gentoo anyway
[21:18]	nobody	and since my profile shrunk down to ~500 ebuilds "only", i rather keep the tens of thousands of others out of my way
[21:18]	nobody	i want to keep critical base system components in maintenance first and foremost, all of it must be sanitized for clean cross-compilation, tinycc support, static linking, linux2 abi etc.
[21:19]	nobody	it's interesting too, given the billions of shitcoins dumped into upstream, they didn't at least manage to keep cross-compilation sane and simple for important packages
[21:20]	psydruid	what prevents W^X enforcement in POSIX?
[21:20]	nobody	psydruid: good question
[21:20]	TR News	 (NEW):  Canonical/Ubuntu: Kubernetes, Icons, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Canonical_Ubuntu_Kubernetes_Icons_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Canonical_Ubuntu_Kubernetes_Icons_and_More.gmi 
[21:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Kubernetes, Icons, and More
[21:21]	nobody	POSIX makes no assumptions about mprotect(WRITE|EXEC) returning EPERM
[21:21]	nobody	in practice this causes administrative hazzle
[21:22]	nobody	currently i've set my policy to WARN which floods my syslog with policy violation messages, which is annoying too
[21:23]	nobody	psydruid: so, what would you do? in practice w^x policies aren't enforced, exceptions administered
[21:24]	psydruid	I would modify the code until it does
[21:24]	nobody	while i think it would be best to inspect software which insists upon WRITE|EXEC and patch it directly
[21:24]	psydruid	but maybe that's too much work
[21:24]	nobody	well, in practice you'd expect rather many processes terminated and or syslog flooded with gibber
[21:25]	nobody	at a point no security violation had occured btw, it's merely a potential weakness, but no security hole itself
[21:26]	nobody	i would prefer w^x policy enforcement (which seems to intersect with concerns of harvard architecture to separate code from data and then apply different permissions)
[21:26]	nobody	but then such a system should be designed for it from the beginning, without exceptions permitted for script interpreters etc.
[21:27]	TR News	 (NEW):  PostgreSQL 17.3, Siren Call of SQLite on the Server, and More on Databases https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/PostgreSQL_17_3_Siren_Call_of_SQLite_on_the_Server_and_More_on_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/PostgreSQL_17_3_Siren_Call_of_SQLite_on_the_Server_and_More_on_.gmi 
[21:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PostgreSQL 17.3, Siren Call of SQLite on the Server, and More on Databases
[21:28]	IsambardPrince	https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/2nd-us-deportation-flight-with-116-indians-lands-in-amritsar/articleshow/118286470.cms
[21:28]	TR Bot	 2nd US deportation flight, with 116 Indians, lands in Amritsar - The Times of India
[21:28]	IsambardPrince	There's a third one for tomorrow with about that many.
[21:29]	IsambardPrince	Trump is prioritizing getting rid of all the Indians with a final removal order because Modi said he'd take all of them, so this clears up space in ICE detention for others.
[21:30]	IsambardPrince	Many of the Indians came through the border with Mexico and their family in India spent about $80,000 that they sold land or borrowed money for, and now the US is sending them right back.
[21:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[21:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  Web Browsers and Web Sites https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Web_Browsers_and_Web_Sites.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Web_Browsers_and_Web_Sites.gmi 
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Web Browsers and Web Sites
[21:31]	IsambardPrince	https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/nyregion/congestion-pricing-hochul-stefanik.html
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Hochul Halts Bill Aimed at Weakening Republican Control of House - The New York Times
[21:32]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/02/15/Programming_Leftovers.2.gmi 
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[21:32]	IsambardPrince	She is also allowing a corrupt mayor who is under the direct control of Trump, in order to keep the corruption charges from coming back, to stay in office.
[21:32]	IsambardPrince	New York apparently wants congestion pricing in NYC more than it wants its own rule of law.
[21:33]	IsambardPrince	https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/14/lazy-gen-z-get-back-office-or-get-new-job-jp-morgan-boss/
[21:33]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/14/lazy-gen-z-get-back-office-or-get-new-job-jp-morgan-boss/ )
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	"The boss of JP Morgan has railed against Gen Z employees who work from home and bull---- bureaucracy at the investment bank in a leaked recording.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	In an rant to the Wall Street giants staff, Jamie Dimon complained of slow decision-making, phone calls going unanswered and younger recruits who were being left behind because of the shift to remote working.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	He criticised zoomers a term for people born between the late 1990s and early 2010s for spending all their time on the video app Zoom instead of physical offices.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	Mr Dimon said: Dont give me this s--- that work-from-home Friday works.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	I call a lot of people on Fridays, and theres not a goddamn person you can get a hold of.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	Ive had it with this kind of stuff.
[21:34]	IsambardPrince	The expletive-laden outburst, revealed in an audio recording obtained by Barrons, followed grumbling by JP Morgan employees about an order to return to the office five days a week."
[21:37]	IsambardPrince	----
[21:38]	IsambardPrince	I knew a banker who worked at Chase.
[21:38]	IsambardPrince	He died in his 20s.
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[21:39]	nobody	died in his 20s? that's unusual.
[21:39]	IsambardPrince	Yes, banking stuff if very stressful.
[21:39]	IsambardPrince	He worked in their investment banking division.
[21:39]	IsambardPrince	It's so demanding you end up abusing substances and going without sleep.
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[21:44]	psydruid	that's why I asked, it has to be built in from the very beginning and not bolted on
[21:45]	TR News	The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity. The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other. Bertrand Russell gemini://thrig.me/blog/2025/02/15/quote.gmi
[21:46]	nobody	psydruid: yes, and that's unrelated to rust, and rust couldn't address the issue anyway
[21:46]	nobody	it would to be interesting, since script interpreters such as python/perl/java etc almost always fail with W^X policies applied
[21:47]	nobody	if such script interpreters could be supported
[21:47]	nobody	it's not my field of expertise, i only got a few theories about this
[21:48]	nobody	and, the current status is script interpreters will violate policies, while those too often expose an attack-surface with web-applications that run atop python/perl/php/java whatever
[21:50]	nobody	and W^X could catch all "buffer overflow malicious code injections" if policies were strict, but they aren't
[21:51]	nobody	at least i got some ASLR back on board with linux-2.4, which i'll have to review when i got time to do so
[21:52]	nobody	anyway, my job placement inquiries were all denied, all of them
[21:53]	nobody	meanwhile EU dumped billions of cash into their helsing.ai rust projects
[21:53]	nobody	that's how i see it
[21:54]	nobody	they got alot of money to smear their rust goo into kernel
[21:54]	nobody	with modern web-browsers their missions seems complete already, firefox doesn't compile without rust
[21:54]	nobody	i don't care anylonger
[21:55]	psydruid	you either get with the agenda and play along or you don't and become unemployed
[21:55]	IsambardPrince	I know that Cody liked his job there.
[21:55]	IsambardPrince	But he was tired a lot from working at Chase.
[21:55]	IsambardPrince	And working in banking like that is like working at a tech company.
[21:55]	IsambardPrince	The only thing he had in his apartment was a mattress with no box spring or frame on the floor, and a small television set.
[21:56]	IsambardPrince	It would have been better to not burn out.
[21:56]	IsambardPrince	https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/02/15/ice-arrests-immigration-deportations/
[21:56]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/02/15/ice-arrests-immigration-deportations/ )
[21:56]	nobody	suicidal substance abuse certainly wasn't worth it. don't mean to be rude
[21:56]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, The human hunt for immigrants is turning into the Russian three day special military operation.
[21:56]	IsambardPrince	:)
[21:57]	IsambardPrince	Arrests have dropped back almost to Biden era levels less than a month in, despite Trump shutting down drug and terrorism investigations and putting IRS agents on immigration enforcement.
[21:57]	IsambardPrince	Now he's pissed and firing people.
[21:57]	MinceR	:>
[21:58]	IsambardPrince	This is just stunning incompetence.
[21:58]	nobody	https://www.dw.com/en/germany-updates-suspected-car-attack-in-munich-injures-28/live-71588368
[21:58]	TR Bot	Munich car 'attack' injures 30, suspect detained DW 02/13/2025
[21:58]	IsambardPrince	And it was so predictable, right? Because you remove the focus from highly targeted raids to net a bunch of criminals, to knocking on doors all day while nobody answers and arresting maybe one person that day.
[21:58]	nobody	a 36year old mother and her 2 year old child a reported dead since this afternoon
[21:59]	nobody	IsambardPrince: it was _not_, because the immigrant had a legal permit to stay, he had a permit to work, he was _the_ type of immigrant that perfectly "integrated into society"
[21:59]	nobody	there wasn't plans to deport him
[21:59]	nobody	there was no criminal record either, nothing
● Feb 15
[22:00]	nobody	currently public tv is trying to construct an "islamist" political background
[22:00]	nobody	while i think, public institutions intentionall provoked and escalated
[22:01]	nobody	this type of immigrant is a "tax payer", and "cheap workforce", that's in particular the type of immigration even AfD agitates for
[22:02]	IsambardPrince	nobody, Yes, even MAGA is fine with some immigrants.
[22:02]	IsambardPrince	They try to build this "ideal immigrant" you know, rich, pays a lot of taxes.
[22:02]	IsambardPrince	They don't really care what's going on in that head of yours if they think you fit that mold.
[22:03]	IsambardPrince	And that just doesn't work, because they let in all sorts of vicious criminals and even sex traffickers that can pass Trump's wealth test and pay taxes.
[22:05]	MinceR	> rich, pays a lot of taxes.
[22:05]	nobody	meanwhile, whenever such terror attacks are reported on tv and radio, the (mostly) migrant mob is speeding and terrorizing the cities with their cars
[22:05]	IsambardPrince	They demonize the ones who are here to put in manual labor and are generally a law abiding type. They let in sex and drug traffickers, horrible people. Pedophiles. And they just don't care, MAGA doesn't care, as long as you pass the Wealth Test.
[22:05]	MinceR	they don't seem to have that category
[22:05]	nobody	that's all "tax payers" too, who could afford such expensive vehicles (not all could, but anyway)
[22:06]	nobody	it's remarkable too, which type of intellectual deficiencies are connected to the sales of german luxury vehicles
[22:06]	nobody	i wouldn't drive any of theirs for that reason alone
[22:07]	nobody	although the immigrant was interrogated for several days by police already, there's nothing conclusive reported yet
[22:08]	nobody	why in particular a type of immigrant that perfectly "integrated into society" to the liking of our party politics smashed a car into labor union protesters
[22:08]	nobody	further protests were announced in other major cities (Berlin and elsewhere), but called off after the attack
[22:09]	nobody	election results  will be announced next sunday in germany
[22:10]	IsambardPrince	Do you approve of Adolf Hitler? Yes/Yes
[22:10]	IsambardPrince	*Men with machine guns stare intently*
[22:10]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, ^
[22:10]	MinceR	:>
[22:12]	IsambardPrince	https://wgntv.com/news/trending/one-in-10-americans-would-never-date-someone-with-credit-card-debt-survey/
[22:12]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://wgntv.com/news/trending/one-in-10-americans-would-never-date-someone-with-credit-card-debt-survey/ )
[22:12]	IsambardPrince	Postpone a wedding over debt?
[22:12]	IsambardPrince	How about not spending $30,000 on a wedding and getting a personal loan to cover it?
[22:12]	IsambardPrince	You're not the royal family. Who are all these people?
[22:13]	MinceR	people who overrate a construction that does nothing other than making leaving their partner more expensive
[22:14]	IsambardPrince	AmEx says apply for the gold card.
[22:16]	IsambardPrince	AfD says "Behinderte und Juden stehlen Ihnen und wollen Ihre Goldkarte."
[22:16]	IsambardPrince	:)
[22:16]	IsambardPrince	If Google Translate got that right.
[22:16]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, It's a metal card alright. I think it actually has some gold in it.
[22:17]	psydruid	Dafr brauchen wir ja kein Google Translate
[22:17]	MinceR	:>
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, AmEx is fucking weird. They gave Mandy PopUp Hell (No sign up bonus for you, you bad boy, you've never paid us interest. We've lost our butts on you!")
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	Then they send a 100,000 MR point welcome offer for a gold card that overrides the pop-up a month later.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I know what probably happened.
[22:23]	IsambardPrince	The computer probably send his customer file off for manual review somewhere and they said "Hmm, well, if he won't pay us interest, he may pay us the annual fee. We'll take a chance there."
[22:23]	MinceR	:>
[22:23]	IsambardPrince	The offer says in the small print that if you have a habit of closing AmEx cards before the first year, then they might freeze your MR points and seize them.
[22:24]	IsambardPrince	So don't close any AmEx cards (or downgrade them) before a year or they may do a freeze n' seize.
[22:27]	nobody	https://abcnews.go.com/International/14-year-killed-4-injured-knife-attack-austria/story?id=118864523
[22:27]	TR Bot	 14-year-old killed, 4 injured in knife attack in Austria - ABC News
[22:28]	psydruid	I posted that on #techpol
[22:29]	IsambardPrince	Knives don't count.
[22:29]	IsambardPrince	Stooopid, only guns kill people, dumb dumb.
[22:29]	IsambardPrince	Give me gum gum.
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	Go to amex
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	r/amex
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	19 hr. ago
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	arbitraryusername314
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	emoji:Platinum:
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[22:42]	IsambardPrince	WSJ: Saks warns suppliers they will have to wait for payments
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Saks is apparently having trouble.
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	I replied, "
[22:42]	IsambardPrince	Well, when you sell $5,000 Burberry pants in a dead economy and you're facing Trump's National Sales Taxes, and mass unemployment starts with the federal government now operating like a bankrupt tech company, they probably are not well positioned to handle the coming years."
[22:44]	IsambardPrince	"A sad realization for everyone, even the ones who decided to leave us mired in this garbage and nonsense is, most aren't prepared, and those in debt certainly are not prepared to handle the next 4 years."
[22:46]	IsambardPrince	"What kind of supplier problems do you suppose they'll have, and it's not just Saks but them too, when they're paying 25-40% in new tariffs and still trying to maintain their margins? It's a problem for every retailer from Dollar Tree and Walmart on up to high end retail.
[22:46]	IsambardPrince	You guys broke it, and you get to keep both pieces, as us people in tech say."
[22:53]	IsambardPrince	https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/02/15/ice-arrests-immigration-deportations/
[22:53]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/02/15/ice-arrests-immigration-deportations/ )
[22:53]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, There's a very good reason why immigration enforcement is breaking down despite Trump's "whole of government" effort.
[22:53]	IsambardPrince	It's called bottlenecking.
[22:53]	IsambardPrince	You can go grab a bigger funnel, but if the chokepoint is past the funnel, it doesn't matter.
[22:54]	IsambardPrince	Hillbillies who don't understand bottlenecking go and buy K&N air filters for their car.
[22:54]	IsambardPrince	The company says it improves horsepower by letting more air in.
[22:55]	IsambardPrince	But the truth is the factory paper filters, which cost only a few bucks, and are disposable, let in nearly all the air the intake can handle, and even if that weren't the case, you have the exhaust pipe, the ccatalytic converter, the muffler.
[22:56]	IsambardPrince	So Trump is trying to make more arrests the same way people try to make their car go chainsaw motherfucker vroom vroom with a K&N air filter.
[22:56]	IsambardPrince	It just doesn't work very well.
[22:56]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz-pi, ^
[22:57]	IsambardPrince	ICE has many bottlenecks.
[22:57]	IsambardPrince	Which include the need for very specialized training to handle immigration law.
[22:57]	IsambardPrince	Limited detention space.
[22:57]	IsambardPrince	A relatively small budget.
[22:57]	IsambardPrince	Few agents.
[22:58]	IsambardPrince	Putting IRS revenue agents on ICE duty doesn't mean they suddenly know Immigration law. They're tax enforcers. They're accountants with guns.
● Feb 15
[23:00]	IsambardPrince	Kristi Noem is in no way qualified to lead the Department of Homeland Security. She's a vicious psychopath who murdered a puppy and called it "worthless". She's not the A-team. She was the governor of a horrible flyover state that everyone who lives there wants to leave. It has the highest suicide rate in the country. She was banished from over a fifth of her own State by Indian tribes who told her she'd be arrested if she came there.
[23:01]	IsambardPrince	She was barely qualified to be the governor of a "small county".
[23:03]	IsambardPrince	Trump hires people so thoroughly incompetent that it's a form of self-sabotage, then he doesn't get his numbers, so he sacks them and replaces them with more idiots. It's like what Putin did. Blame the failures on Shoigu and get rid of Shoigu.
[23:12]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Trump fired 400 people from FEMA yesterday.
[23:13]	IsambardPrince	Today, Kentucky is getting hit with a terrible winter storm and it's causing flooding.
[23:13]	IsambardPrince	I always drive through the snow going "HAH! THESE PEOPLE ARE PUSSIES!!!!!" like that woman in Westworld.
[23:14]	IsambardPrince	During the escape when they find the FN-P90s and start killing all the guards with them.
[23:15]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Lots of foodie credits on the Gold Card I see.
[23:15]	IsambardPrince	Bringen Sie mir die Speisekarte. Ich habe eine Goldkarte.
[23:15]	IsambardPrince	:D
[23:16]	IsambardPrince	Yaaah
[23:16]	IsambardPrince	My dead General. I rarely say this, so please take it to heart. For the moment, I am full.
[23:17]	IsambardPrince	*dear
[23:17]	IsambardPrince	Ugh.
[23:17]	IsambardPrince	Nerus was the funniest thing SG-1 ever had.
[23:17]	IsambardPrince	MORE CHICKEN!
[23:17]	IsambardPrince	Individually frosted CAKES!
[23:17]	MinceR	:>
[23:18]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I got a sales email from KIA of Lincolnwood.
[23:18]	IsambardPrince	They said they wanted to make me a cash offer on the KIA Soul of up to $10,000. 
[23:19]	IsambardPrince	I replied saying that a crackhead stole it and wrecked it since it had no security system, but I could ask CoPart if they still have some of the pieces if they would agree to have a $10,000 check waiting for me at the dealer.
[23:25]	IsambardPrince	https://www.reddit.com/r/amex/comments/1iq375o/charlotte_amex_centurion_lounge_fails_much_of/
[23:25]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[23:25]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, The AmEx Centurion Lounge at the Charlotte, NC airport had about 20 health code violations regarding the food.
[23:25]	IsambardPrince	MARISOL brags about using those Centurion lounges.
[23:25]	IsambardPrince	Hoo hoo! Hoo hoo! Don't eat the clams! Hoo hoo!
[23:26]	MinceR	that's where commanders of the roman military go?
[23:26]	MinceR	i think they're all gone by now
[23:26]	IsambardPrince	American Express has always used a Roman Centurion as their logo.
[23:26]	IsambardPrince	It's on all my AmEx cards.
[23:27]	IsambardPrince	They had the Centurion as an intaglio printjob for security on their traveler's checks back in the day.
[23:28]	IsambardPrince	"Observed raw sausage stored above overnight oats."
[23:28]	IsambardPrince	Well, it's going to be a bad night for whoever eats those overnight oats.
[23:28]	IsambardPrince	:D
[23:31]	IsambardPrince	The humor is if those sausages drip into the oats and someone eats them, they're going to be vomiting and shitting their guts out about 8-10 hours later.
[23:32]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, These places are pitched at bougie people to get them to pay ridiculous annual fees for a credit card.
[23:33]	IsambardPrince	"Observed beef roast being prepared and it was cooked to 110 F."
[23:34]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Beef needs to be cooked to about 165 F in the center to be done.
[23:37]	IsambardPrince	Miserable-Result6702
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[23:38]	IsambardPrince	Aside from getting shut down, I doubt it. People continue to shell out $700 for the card and the lounges are still packed with 1 hour waits.
[23:38]	IsambardPrince	I replied, "Followed by a two hour line for the restrooms? :D"
[23:38]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I liked the first season of Westworld but it went downhill later and got canceled.
[23:38]	IsambardPrince	The attention to detail in the first season was good too.
[23:39]	IsambardPrince	I liked how when the androids who were programmed to be in a simulation of the old west found the FN-P90s.
[23:39]	IsambardPrince	They carried and used them like you would an old repeater rifle.
[23:39]	MinceR	:)
[23:39]	IsambardPrince	It never seemed to dawn on them that they were mag dumping on people in full auto.
[23:40]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Bump stocks are legal again.
[23:40]	IsambardPrince	Federally anyway.
[23:40]	IsambardPrince	The SCOTUS reversed Trump's ATF ban on them.
[23:40]	IsambardPrince	I've used an FN-PS90 with a bump stock on it before.
[23:42]	IsambardPrince	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCx1rgxXVKA
[23:42]	TR Bot	https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=VCx1rgxXVKA
[23:42]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=VCx1rgxXVKA )
[23:44]	IsambardPrince	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etSP0ZQjkkA
[23:44]	TR Bot	https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=etSP0ZQjkkA
[23:44]	TR Bot	( status 502 @ https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=etSP0ZQjkkA )
[23:44]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, It's less accurate but it's legal.
[23:45]	MinceR	nobody would use bump stocks if full-auto was legal
[23:47]	nobody	it's stupid