●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, May 15, 2022 ●●
● May 15
[00:00]	psydruid	Just delete all the HLSDK files
[00:00]	bnchs	but the game depends on them
[00:00]	psydruid	and have someone write compatible headers based on what is actually used in the game
[00:01]	bnchs	yeah that's actually what they suggested
[00:01]	psydruid	new equivalent ones
[00:01]	bnchs	but unfortunately they didn't implement it
[00:01]	bnchs	for some reason
[00:01]	boldc___	the shooter was live streaming
[00:01]	boldc___	just like cs:go
[00:02]	boldc___	twitch tv?
[00:02]	TR News	"Red Hat is a sponsor of The New Stack." Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols writes paid-for puff pieces for sponsors instead of actual journalism https://thenewstack.io/red-hat-embraces-devsecops/
[00:02]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Embraces DevSecOps The New Stack
[00:03]	TR News	Rock Pi 4 Model C+ released with HDMI 2.0 ports, LPDDR4 RAM and M.2 SSD support https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rock-Pi-4-Model-C-released-with-HDMI-2-0-ports-LPDDR4-RAM-and-M-2-SSD-support.619267.0.html
[00:03]	TR Bot	Pi 4 Model C+ released with HDMI 2.0 ports, LPDDR4 RAM and M.2 SSD support - NotebookCheck.net News
[00:03]	boldc___	https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/2022/05/15/62802dfcca4741996a8b4597.html
[00:03]	TR Bot	mass shooter wrote N-Word on his rifle, live streamed his crimes | Marca
[00:05]	boldc___	is N a word?
[00:06]	MinceR	yes
[00:06]	boldc___	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-word
[00:06]	TR Bot	 Nigger - Wikipedia
[00:06]	boldc___	so thats what it is
[00:06]	XRevan86	boldc___: ?-word is a common Anglophone way of saying "?[a-z]+"
[00:07]	MinceR	\bN\b matches N, therefore N is a word
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[00:08]	boldc___	actually i was wondering if it was the Z word
[00:09]	XRevan86	Zombie?
[00:09]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/dined.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-dined#comic )
[00:09]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[00:09]	boldc___	zeck?
[00:10]	MinceR	the first character of the N-word differs from that of the Z-word, therefore they're not the same word
[00:11]	boldc___	N and Z are the drawn the same
[00:11]	MinceR	are they?
[00:11]	boldc___	its a fact
[00:11]	boldc___	at least capitalixed
[00:13]	psydruid	odlaZim iZ NiZoZemske
[00:13]	boldc___	Z is a N tilted 90 angle
[00:14]	boldc___	 im not sure MinceR is yet convinced thou
[00:14]	boldc___	MinceR perfers the FACTS to fit his visions
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[00:20]	TR News	"On this episode of This Week in Linux: Fedora Linux 36, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 (RHEL), NVIDIAs Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules, KDE Connect Released for iOS, NetworkManager 1.38" https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-198/
[00:20]	TR Bot	Fedora 36, RHEL 9, NVidia Open Sourcing, KDE Connect on iOS and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[00:20]	AdmFubar	https://americandragnet.org/
[00:20]	TR Bot	 American Dragnet | Data-Driven Deportation in the 21st Century
[00:20]	boldc___	ibet elon musk is gona buy Twitch.tv next
[00:20]	boldc___	There's a short version of the horrible live stream he posted on Twitch where he is driving up to the supermarket and opens fire as soon as he gets out of the car.
[00:21]	TR News	US surveillance has crept into everything https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/bis_data_governance_design/
[00:21]	TR Bot	 Bank for International Settlements calls for new data rules The Register
[00:23]	boldc___	why do you surveillance when shooters stream them self on the internet?
[00:23]	XRevan86	Z
[00:23]	boldc___	need
[00:25]	boldc___	if anything i think they like it
[00:25]	TR News	El Reg has sunk to this greenwashing garbage https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/amd_power_goal/
[00:25]	TR Bot	 AMD says it's made strong start toward 2025 energy target The Register
[00:26]	TR News	Mass surveillance for everybody? https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/biden_admin_internet_subsidies/
[00:26]	TR Bot	 US deal with ISPs to cap internet costs for low-income users The Register
[00:26]	bnchs	Z is when you flip over a N
[00:26]	bnchs	on it's side
[00:29]	boldc___	https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/ukrainian_credentials_botnet/
[00:29]	TR Bot	 Crook jailed for selling stolen credentials on dark web The Register
[00:29]	boldc___	Touting info on 6,700 compromised systems will get you four years behind bars
[00:30]	schestowitz-TR	when will Microsoft and Gulag execs be arrested?
[00:30]	schestowitz-TR	for illegally "stealing" data?
[00:30]	schestowitz-TR	oh, wait
[00:30]	schestowitz-TR	they aren't subjected to the law
[00:30]	schestowitz-TR	they're "professionals" :-)
[00:31]	boldc___	:)
[00:31]	boldc___	"stealing" data? no its called survailance
[00:31]	schestowitz-TR	when THEY do it
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	wikileaks: we steal secrets (movie)
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	NSA: we do our job
[00:32]	boldc___	think of the pedos
[00:32]	schestowitz-TR	FB: butt out; it's our business
[00:32]	boldc___	the wold is full of them we need survailonce
[00:33]	XRevan86	I wanted to make out a swastika out of Z and N with Unicode, but I don't think Unicode is capable of giving me that.
[00:33]	boldc___	we need iy because of the epsteains of the world
[00:34]	TR News	HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. It's EVERYWHERE. All algos are HEY HI https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/brand-watch-under-spotlight-never-before-companies-turn-ai-get-their-numbers-2022-05-11/
[00:34]	TR Bot	Watch: Under the spotlight as never before, companies turn to AI to get their numbers right | Reuters
[00:34]	schestowitz	https://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
[00:34]	TR Bot	 High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
[00:34]	bnchs	turn to AIE EYE
[00:36]	boldc___	you mean spin bnchs?
[00:36]	bnchs	the AIE EYE
[00:37]	bnchs	it stands for AIE EYE EYEE EYE
[00:37]	boldc___	what is that?
[00:37]	boldc___	is everything okay with you?
[00:37]	activelow	anti-competitive insanity: linux terminfo ... why do arrow-keys and f1..f4 map to the same keyboard codes?
[00:37]	bnchs	no it's AI
[00:38]	activelow	home and end keys are another issue, with mis-matching entries for x11 and console
[00:39]	activelow	another one of toay, which made my sharpen my knive... 
[00:39]	boldc___	how is that even possible?
[00:39]	activelow	ncurses it seems, not only gathers terminfo database according to TERM=<name>, withing this database entry the capabilities and mappings are defined...
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[00:40]	activelow	no, instead the terminal name itself triggers some internal magic with ncurses
[00:40]	boldc___	activelow is using the N word
[00:40]	boldc___	NULL
[00:40]	activelow	meaning if i pass TERM=dvtm or TERM=linux with the exact _same_ terminfo database contents... ncurses does different things
[00:40]	bnchs	ZN
[00:40]	bnchs	NZ
[00:40]	TR News	A new emacs lisp tiny project gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/new-emacs-lisp-project.gmi
[00:41]	activelow	which both: breaks the design principle of terminfo databases (which are screwed since see above), this too breaks applications and ncurses
[00:41]	activelow	the exceptional intellect, who envisioned this, i see a nuke dropping into this shithead
[00:41]	boldc___	activelow do you have the mouse enable on the terminal?
[00:42]	activelow	boldc___: enabled exactly how?
[00:42]	activelow	gpm is active still...
[00:42]	activelow	why?
[00:42]	boldc___	i mean the real terminal with out x
[00:43]	activelow	yes, i am using linux console with dvtm window manager
[00:43]	activelow	and had preferred the functions keys all match as desired... 
[00:43]	boldc___	dvtm window manager is using X or wayland?
[00:43]	activelow	however, i cannot map those keys, because i do need/want to de/re-attach abduco+dvtm with _different_ terminal types
[00:44]	boldc___	i mean the tty?
[00:44]	activelow	boldc___: dvtm is a window manager for console, no X11, no wayland, none of this shit
[00:44]	activelow	although, i do want/need the ability to de/re-attach an abduco+dvtm session with any common terminal emulator
[00:45]	activelow	even when i am not using X11 anymore
[00:45]	boldc___	i didnt knew you could have windows with out X
[00:47]	activelow	not only this boldc___, dvtm seems the best "window manager" i tried in 20years
[00:47]	activelow	too it is the smalles, 47KiB in size, dynamically linked plus ncurses library
[00:47]	boldc___	but its not flowting windows
[00:48]	boldc___	that you drag with mouse
[00:48]	boldc___	https://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/
[00:48]	TR Bot	 dvtm - dynamic virtual terminal manager Marc Andr Tanner
[00:48]	activelow	no, it is designed to integrate well with vi editor, keyboard, and rarely ever mouse
[00:48]	activelow	fixed many issues already btw.; which it seems noone else had done yet
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[00:49]	boldc___	look better then NEW tiling windows manager people like to show off
[00:50]	boldc___	they all use X or wayland
[00:50]	activelow	both X11 and wayland are rubbish
[00:50]	boldc___	i dont see whats the point if you have dvtm
[00:51]	activelow	i will integrate sixel support with it
[00:51]	boldc___	i taking about i3 sway
[00:51]	boldc___	arent they just emulating dvtm?
[00:51]	activelow	dvtm, it's small, 47KiB, furthermore it is a terminal multiplexer, something slightly different to a "window manager"
[00:52]	boldc___	terminal multiplexer sound right name for it
[00:53]	activelow	comparable to tmux, yet i prefer dvtm, one reason being, even tmux which i considred relatively lightweight and efficient, tmux is 10x bigger in size than dvtm
[00:54]	boldc___	but must have more features
[00:54]	activelow	not really
[00:54]	activelow	furthermore tmux was _missing_ important support for a specific feature: sixels
[00:54]	boldc___	yes you talked about it
[00:55]	activelow	there is some wild hacks floating around the internet for tmux-sixel... which are unstable and incomplete... practically not really useful
[00:55]	boldc___	its grafics related
[00:55]	activelow	i think it is possible to fully support sixels with dvtm, on top of yaft
[00:56]	activelow	i hope, far better support than what is available with tmux
[00:56]	activelow	another huge benefit of dvtm is... easy remote shell access with ssh
[00:57]	boldc___	but you can watch picture with it?
[00:58]	boldc___	or movies?
[00:58]	chicksahoy	anything wrong with screen?
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[00:59]	activelow	chicksahoy: similar situation with sixels... and since you ask this implies you are not digging into the source code of such software, i do.
[00:59]	bnchs	chicksahoy, too bloated for him
[00:59]	activelow	dvtm is 4000LoC in total, it is far easier to hack
[00:59]	activelow	just fixed the home and end key mappings..., at least
● May 15
[01:00]	activelow	next one is sixel support with dvtm
[01:00]	chicksahoy	fair enough
[01:00]	activelow	session de/re-attach works too now from-to x11-linux terminal types with a custom terminfo
[01:01]	boldc___	not good enought for baphometos
[01:01]	boldc___	LOL
[01:02]	bnchs	boldc___, not good enough for satan
[01:02]	bnchs	the GNU ritual
[01:04]	boldc___	yhe whatever
[01:07]	boldc___	SixelSixelSixel the number of baphometos
[01:07]	boldc___	makes sense now
[01:09]	bnchs	i wouldn't mind if he was a satanist
[01:09]	boldc___	im against religion
[01:10]	boldc___	religion is for cucus
[01:11]	boldc___	makes sense?
[01:13]	boldc___	bnchs what else are you going to spin at me?
[01:14]	bnchs	you're not a bold c
[01:14]	boldc___	you recon?
[01:17]	boldc___	bnchs is the freaking enquisition
[01:19]	boldc___	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8n4MfhjUc
[01:19]	TR Bot	https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Cj8n4MfhjUc
[01:19]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | Monty Python Spanish Inquisition Part 1 - Invidious
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[01:24]	boldc___	LOL
[01:26]	boldc___	Hmm. Were having trouble finding that site.
[01:26]	boldc___	We cant connect to the server at www.tuxmachines.org.
[01:27]	boldc___	noe it worked...
[01:34]	MinceR	sounds like boldc___ got offended by someone turning his words against himself
[01:34]	MinceR	15 011105 < boldc___> N and Z are the drawn the same
[01:34]	MinceR	how do you tell them apart then?
[01:36]	XRevan86	/2? :)
[01:38]	boldc___	just spin the napkin MinceR
[01:40]	boldc___	i think MinceR doesnt pass the turing test
[01:40]	boldc___	LOL
[01:41]	MinceR	i hope boldc___ at least gets paid for generating noise here
[01:41]	MinceR	otherwise it's just a big waste of resources for everyone
[01:42]	boldc___	i might leave if you paid me
[01:42]	boldc___	LOL
[01:42]	MinceR	i have cheaper ways of making you leave
[01:43]	boldc___	but since this is free software i don't think you can
[01:43]	boldc___	*cheaper * just like you
[01:43]		*psydruid realizes AMD marketing works and people are spending huge amounts of money on processors with mediocre performance/watt stats
[01:44]	MinceR	what should they spend huge amounts of money on instead?
[01:47]	psydruid	they can spend their money on whatever they want
[01:48]	MinceR	that doesn't really answer the question :>
[01:52]	psydruid	I am not the one to tell them what to buy :)
[01:53]	boldc___	do you think that about 50% of Americans now days are racists nazis that spread their hate allover social media and gaming so spin kids to their crap ?
[01:53]	boldc___	i do
[01:55]	boldc___	and its an international thing also
[01:55]	boldc___	and the internet is just enabling them
[01:55]	boldc___	and lots of cops and army spooks are too
[01:56]	psydruid	there are many ways to get a better return on your investment than spending it on $500 8-core processors and $500 graphics csrds
[01:56]	MinceR	i don't think people generally buy computer hardware as a form of investment
[01:56]	MinceR	their rapid deprecation is supposed to be well known
[01:57]	boldc___	does days are gone
[01:57]	boldc___	https://www.tomshardware.com/news/hedt-cpus-disappearing-from-the-market-says-puget
[01:57]	TR Bot	 High-End Desktop CPUs Disappearing from the Market Puget Systems | Tom's Hardware
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[01:59]	XRevan86	Does days are gone but do days be gone doing deeds?
[01:59]	MinceR	lol
[01:59]	boldc___	you lost me there pall
● May 15
[02:00]	XRevan86	The feeling is mutual.
[02:00]	MinceR	lol
[02:01]	activelow	anyway, vim keymappings are a no-brainer, problem is the combination with de/re-attching with different terminal types
[02:02]	activelow	"anti-competitive crap" ... escapes my intellect why function-key codes, home and end etc. do not match and even conflict between terminal types such as linux and xterm
[02:03]	activelow	and with dvtm there is always two terminal types: the lower one dvtm attached to, and the upper one exposed to applications and user i/o
[02:03]	activelow	now... it's working as it should
[02:03]	boldc___	you are supposed to switch keyboards has you change your terminals to match them
[02:04]	boldc___	meakes plenty of sense
[02:04]	boldc___	LOL
[02:05]	activelow	ok, some DEC keyboards got 20 functions keys, yet it isn't enough to count 1..12..20, it must be abcde6..10??13..20
[02:06]	boldc___	they should live stream the nazi pig execution live on twitch.tv
[02:06]	activelow	X11 was a DEC project too, this company is defunct, and 20years later their "innovation" remains a headache
[02:06]	boldc___	in the same channel he used
[02:07]	activelow	recently, to "improve" upon this further, X11 switched to evdev keyboard input, which again changed some keycodes and default mappings
[02:07]	boldc___	and make the users watch it
[02:07]	activelow	this is how systemd sneaked into x11...
[02:08]	boldc___	nizi pig fried with free popcorn
[02:08]	activelow	DEC OpenVMS -> microsoft windows NT... you see
[02:08]	activelow	DEC X11 -> ... same thing
[02:08]	activelow	i'll wipe this crap
[02:09]	activelow	unicode is another story... 
[02:09]	boldc___	hack it off activelow
[02:09]	boldc___	its all extra fat
[02:09]	activelow	because, problem is, i want a LANG=C fallback, and be certain the basic terminal i/o remains intact with dvtm ... and guess what
[02:10]	activelow	it works already... i spare you the details
[02:11]	psydruid	so X11 and Wayland are both on the chopping block
[02:11]	boldc___	MinceR have you tracked down the video of the shooting?
[02:11]	psydruid	might as well nuke the entire codebase
[02:12]	activelow	i won't be using X11 anymore at all (and certainly not systemd-wayland, never)
[02:13]	activelow	however, i must ensure i can attach a terminal from within x11, and need this for testing
[02:13]	MinceR	didn't even try
[02:13]	boldc___	maybe in ircz?
[02:13]	psydruid	I'm wondering what a modern windowing system would look like
[02:13]	activelow	the final stroke to x11 was xterm (and suckless-terminal alike) linking against fontconfig, must-have... it's not optional
[02:14]	MinceR	ircz doesn't mirror videos
[02:14]	activelow	hence i do keep rxvt-2.7 too, which brings me back to the LANG=C fallback non-unicode... which does work already without screwing up
[02:16]	activelow	i was hoping for iso8859 locale, and got flawless terminal output of it, keyboard input is still buggy
[02:16]	activelow	reminder: iso8859 still is a _standard_, and it is not that old
[02:16]	activelow	and it isn't deprecated
[02:17]	activelow	ideally some terminal remained intact, which doesn't need to de/re-encode anything, and just process I/O with iso8859 (or any other)
[02:18]	activelow	not only are some unicode implementations troublesome, too i had to scrape 20year old rxvt-2.7 sources to keep supporting an ISO _standard_
[02:19]	activelow	couldn't get any better... wait... IPv6... 
[02:19]	MinceR	i wonder what ISO/IEC 10646 might be, then
[02:19]	activelow	that's the unicodeone
[02:19]	activelow	unicode
[02:21]	MinceR	yeah, and an ISO _STANDARD_ apparently :>
[02:22]	MinceR	so if your criterion was that you wanted to pay a lot of money for the specs, there it is
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[02:38]	boldc___	hate crime my ass
[02:38]	boldc___	terrorisme
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[02:39]	boldc___	ts only terrorism if its the non whites
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[02:46]	boldc___	why all the soam?
[02:46]	boldc___	spam
[02:46]	boldc___	i read it the 1st time!
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[02:47]	boldc___	wb
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● May 15
[03:05]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1525656343805296640
[03:06]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "In this little clip from Russian state TV, the hostwho is complaining and moaning about the UK's recent sanctions against Putin's relatives and affiliatesnever dares to mention Alina Kabaeva. No state TV host will utter anything that would displease Putin. Always remember that." | nitter
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[03:13]	boldc___	ive see Alina on some irc network
[03:14]	boldc___	do you think one could find the shooting video on IPFS?
[03:15]	boldc___	must be a really short video
[03:15]	boldc___	i think he only last a couple of minutes
[03:15]	IPFS	QmTdhVnRhcX2HJtHu7hvsFB2dPhh13SYWRaYKwBnekmLnn
[03:15]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:38]	DaemonFC	I almost bought a bunch of Dollar Shave Club blades and a starter kit that were on iBotta.
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Then I noticed that people reviewing the system recently say they changed the blades and they're cutting their neck and stuff.
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[04:02]	boldc___	DaemonFC lives a perilous life there's not a day something happens to him
[04:03]	boldc___	have you cut your neck ?
[04:03]	boldc___	im glad you didnt buy them
[04:14]	boldc___	gnomevoice! how cool is that
[04:14]	boldc___	next thing all be bossing my computer around like i do with my smrtphone
[04:19]	DaemonFC	I remember when they started spamming the entire internet about how much Gilette was ripping you off.
[04:20]	DaemonFC	And how great their razors were, and very cheap.
[04:20]	DaemonFC	Now it seems DSC is just like, shitass dollar store quality.
[04:20]	boldc___	so you got the gilette ones?
[04:35]	DaemonFC	I usually do, yeah.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	They're very expensive, but since they did the Mach 3 about 20 years ago I haven't shaved with anything else. Like, every time I try to save a little money I always go back because everyone else's razors snag or cut you.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Walmart has some that say Compare to Mach 3 or Fusion or whatever, and I did.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Out of the box, they feel like the Mach 3s that I toss after a couple of weeks.
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Bic's razors are just as bad, if not worse.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	Schick Xtreme 3 razors aren't too bad.
[04:43]	DaemonFC	If you absolutely have to save a few bucks during a recession or something then that's where you'd go.
[04:45]	boldc___	you dont use shaving machine?
[04:46]	boldc___	it should be cheaper
[04:46]	DaemonFC	An electric?
[04:47]	boldc___	yes
[04:47]	DaemonFC	I had a Norelco for a while that my grandmother got for me.
[04:47]	DaemonFC	They work, but they don't get close enough.
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[04:49]	DaemonFC	\https://www.shaverinsider.com/10-benefits-using-electric-shaver/
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[04:49]	DaemonFC	Most of the points don't make sense.
[04:50]	DaemonFC	I just shave while I'm in the shower. I use liquid hand soap on a wash cloth and go top to bottom, including my hair, and yes it works fine in my hair.
[04:50]	DaemonFC	Then you can just shave while you're in there with the soap that's already on your face anyway;
[04:50]	DaemonFC	"Nothing is more painful or more unsightly! than nicks, cuts, and ingrown hairs. Everyone has experienced the pain of a cut at one point or another."
[04:51]	DaemonFC	Never had any of those with a Mach 3, only with the cheap store brand shit, and Bic.
[04:52]	DaemonFC	Sometimes iBotta will put Venus razors (for women) on rebate and you can stock up on those. If you get a better price, they work just as well as the men's razors. But for the most part they make them pink so they can call them a women's product and charge more.
[04:53]	DaemonFC	The only time I used Venus razors was when I got a stack of $5 off coupons and found them on sale at Kroger and I had so many of them I didn't have to buy razors again for like 5 years. So yeah, but they're basically the Mach 3 with a pink handle.
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[06:32]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, May 14, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[06:43]	TR News	"So we've talked about radio spectrum regulation in some detail, including the topic of equipment authorization" https://computer.rip/2022-05-10-amateur-hour.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
[06:43]	TR Bot	 Computers Are Bad
[06:43]	TR News	"My site is now an HTML & CSS website, just like the old days." https://bjhess.com/blog/2022/HTML-only/ |
[06:43]	TR Bot	Only :: Barry Hess :: bjhess.com
[06:44]	TR News	">It's possible to make NetworkManager ignore devices entirely (also)" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NetworkManagerWhyConsidering | Source: uni Toronto
[06:44]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/NetworkManagerWhyConsidering
[06:44]	TR News	"Deckbuilders" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/deck-builders-round-up/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:44]	TR Bot	Builders Round Up | GamingOnLinux
[06:45]	TR News	"The NanoPi R5S integrates the Rockchip RK3568B2 quad core Cortex-A55 processor (up to 2.0GHz)" https://linuxgizmos.com/friendlyelec-unveils-rockchip-based-nanopi-r5s-sbc-with-gigabit-wan-lan-support-and-hdmi-output/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[06:45]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/friendlyelec-unveils-rockchip-based-nanopi-r5s-sbc-with-gigabit-wan-lan-support-and-hdmi-output/ )
[06:45]	TR News	"Today, we will see one of the post installation steps in Fedora desktop" https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-minimize-and-maximize-buttons-in-fedora/ |
[06:45]	TR Bot	Minimize And Maximize Buttons In Fedora - OSTechNix
[06:46]	TR News	"One of the first thing to do after a fresh Fedora installation is to install multimedia codecs to play audio and video." https://ostechnix.com/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-in-fedora-linux/ |
[06:46]	TR Bot	To Install Multimedia Codecs In Fedora Linux - OSTechNix
[06:46]	TR News	"hyperbolabsd is the closest thing under the fsf umbrella that has any chance (> 0) of moving free software forward, rather than backwards or in circles." https://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130522.html#tMay%2013%2008:59:23
[06:46]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022
[06:47]	TR News	"some people here are worried about "or later" under a failing fsf regime. theres reason in that argument as well." https://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-130522.html#tMay%2013%2009:02:11
[06:47]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 13, 2022
[06:48]	TR News	"Helps you edit a production packet filter configuration and reduces the risk of doing something really bad." https://git.casa/system.git/tree/scripts/sh/pf.sh
[06:48]	TR Bot	 pf.sh\sh\scripts - system.git - System configurations and scripts.
[06:55]	TR News	"When [Adam, HA8KDA] is not busy with his PhD studies, he mentors a group of students interested in engineering." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/14/electronics-and-c-education-with-an-attiny13/ | Source: Hackaday
[06:55]	TR Bot	And C++ Education With An ATTiny13 | Hackaday
[06:55]	TR News	Yesterday, we ran a post on NVIDIAs announcement of open-source drivers for some of its most recent video cards" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/14/who-is-thinking-about-open-source-firmware/ | Source: Hackaday
[06:55]	TR Bot	Is Thinking About Open Source Firmware? | Hackaday
[06:58]	TR News	"The team from the Sensing, Interaction & Perception Lab at ETH Zrich, Switzerland have come up with TapType" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/14/taptype-ai-assisted-hand-motion-tracking-using-only-accelerometers/ | Source: Hackaday
[06:58]	TR Bot	AI-Assisted Hand Motion Tracking Using Only Accelerometers | Hackaday
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[06:59]	TR News	"Leaked screenshots and footage of Riot Games' yet-to-be-released Valorant Mobile seem to be boosting interest in the hotly anticipated title." https://torrentfreak.com/valorant-mobile-leaks-excite-gamers-but-pirate-copies-are-bad-news-220514/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[06:59]	TR Bot	Mobile' Leaks Excite Gamers But 'Pirate' Copies Are Bad News * TorrentFreak
[06:59]	TR News	"Whats the size of an AA battery and can run an ARM Cortex M0+ for six months? Well probably an AA battery" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/14/running-arm-chips-on-algae-power/ | Source: Hackaday
[06:59]	TR Bot	ARM Chips On Algae Power | Hackaday
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[07:02]	TR News	Corporate dictators https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/14/super-immunity-our-fabulously-wealthy-corporate-dictators | Source: Common Dreams
[07:02]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Super Immunity of Our Fabulously Wealthy Corporate Dictators | Ralph Nader
[07:02]	TR News	Biden and patents https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/14/bidens-silence-intellectual-property-waiver-speaks-volumes | Source: Common Dreams
[07:02]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Biden's Silence on an Intellectual Property Waiver Speaks Volumes | Sarah Lazare
[07:03]	TR News	"Between the era of the CD and the eventual rise and domination of streaming music platforms" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/14/minidisc-player-supports-full-data-transfer/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:03]	TR Bot	Player Supports Full Data Transfer | Hackaday
[07:03]	TR News	"I recently discovered that its surprisingly easy to customize the NetBSD boot loader bannerI recently discovered that its surprisingly easy to customize the NetBSD boot loader banner" https://www.cambus.net/customizing-netbsd-boot-banners/ | Source: Frederic Cambus
[07:03]	TR Bot	 Customizing NetBSD boot banners | Frederic Cambus
[07:06]	TR News	"The Null Programming Philosophy (inspired by Hoare's "hack") flips the hierarchy upside down." https://matt-rickard.com/null-programming-philosophy/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[07:06]	TR Bot	 Null Programming Philosophy
[07:07]	TR News	"About 2.5 years after I was hired, Datadog became a publicly traded company." https://blog.balthazar-rouberol.com/cant-enough-be-enough.html | Source: Balthazar Rouberol
[07:07]	TR Bot	 Balthazar - Blog Can't enough be enough?
[07:08]	TR News	"A key aim is to control rising domestic prices." https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/india-bans-exports-wheat-citing-threat-food-security-84714350 | Source: ABC
[07:08]	TR Bot	 India bans exports of wheat, citing threat to food security - ABC News
[07:11]	TR News	"Martin told NBC News he thought he was typing the web address for his cryptocurrency exchange, Coinbase" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/hackers-stole-entire-165000-crypto-account-fbi-says-cant-help-rcna23841 | Source: NBC
[07:11]	TR Bot	 Hackers stole his entire $165,000 crypto account. The FBI says it cant help him.
[07:12]	TR News	"Texas HB 20 strips private online businesses of their speech rights" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23072310/netchoice-texas-social-media-law-supreme-court-appeal | Source: The Verge
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Tech industry appeals the bad Texas social media law to SCOTUS - The Verge
[07:12]	TR News	"The TTC is the Wests response to efforts by China and others" https://www.economist.com/international/2022/05/14/the-war-in-ukraine-is-spurring-transatlantic-co-operation-in-tech | Source: The Economist
[07:12]	TR Bot	war in Ukraine is spurring transatlantic co-operation in tech | The Economist
[07:13]	TR News	"Some of the bills requirements are technically impossible to comply with at present." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/05/13/1052223/guide-ai-act-europe/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[07:13]	TR Bot	 A quick guide to the most important AI law you've never heard of | MIT Technology Review
[07:15]	TR News	"The Internet shouldnt become a battleground." https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/05/two-months-of-war-the-impact-on-the-internets-core/ | Source: Internet Society
[07:15]	TR Bot	 Two Months of War: The Impact on the Internets Core - Internet Society
[07:15]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM crisis? "Netflix didnt immediately" https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/14/23072842/netflix-looking-into-livestreaming-report | Source: The Verge
[07:15]	TR Bot	 Netflix is reportedly looking into livestreaming - The Verge
[07:27]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164860
[07:27]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[07:27]	TR News	Pika Backup 0.4 Released with Schedule Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164861
[07:27]	TR Bot	 Pika Backup 0.4 Released with Schedule Support | Tux Machines
[07:34]	TR News	Barry Kauler on Debian Bookworm-Based EasyOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164862
[07:34]	TR Bot	 Barry Kauler on Debian Bookworm-'Based' EasyOS | Tux Machines
[07:34]	TR News	todays leftiovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164863
[07:34]	TR Bot	 today's leftiovers | Tux Machines
[07:36]	TR News	Links 15/05/2022: Pika Backup 0.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/pika-backup-0-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/pika-backup-0-4/
[07:36]	TR Bot	 Links 15/05/2022: Pika Backup 0.4 | Techrights
[07:37]	TR News	Cheetah a Day Day 588: cuddles! gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D588.jpg
[07:38]	TR News	Snow Leopard a Day gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D231.jpg
[07:39]	TR News	"If anyone has been bothering to keep up with my gemcast and gemlog, there hasn't been a whole lot of activity recently. A lot of things have been happening in the past several months which I think are too various to explain here." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202203140919.gmi
[07:41]	TR News	Get on Board the BeagleBone Black Primer | designnews.com https://www.designnews.com/electronics/get-board-beaglebone-black-primer "Catch this free class on BeagleBone Black, a Linux-based development board based on the TIs AM335x Sitara Cortex-A8 processor."
[07:41]	TR Bot	on Board the BeagleBone Black Primer | designnews.com
[07:43]	TR News	MIPS says first RISC-V chips coming in Q4 2022 - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/mips_riscv_chips/ Source: theregister
[07:43]	TR Bot	 MIPS says first RISC-V chips coming in Q4 2022 The Register
[07:44]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/revil-returns-secureworks-samples/
[07:44]	TR Bot	 New ransomware samples indicate REvil's return researchers The Register
[07:45]	TR News	Judge agrees damages model in Oracle cloud class-action - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/oracle_cloud_sales_case/ Source: theregister
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Judge agrees damages model in Oracle cloud class-action The Register
[07:46]	TR News	LOL. "Trying and failing to update Visual Studio? You aren't alone" ... use a proper, Freedom-respecting IDE, not Microsoft's trash.
[07:49]	TR News	More patents for gAIDS Foundation? https://www.delawarepublic.org/2022-05-09/one-of-the-first-clinical-trials-of-a-new-mrna-vaccine-for-hiv-is-underway
[07:49]	TR Bot	 One of the first clinical trials of a new mRNA vaccine for HIV is underway | Delaware First Media
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[07:52]	TR News	US-Led Seizure of RaidForums May Defy Lasting Effect on Security | TechNewsWorld https://www.technewsworld.com/story/us-led-seizure-of-raidforums-may-defy-lasting-effect-on-security-176650.html Source: technewsworld
[07:52]	TR Bot	Seizure of RaidForums May Defy Lasting Effect on Security | TechNewsWorld
[07:56]	TR News	Stop calling it "SIDELOADING". That's called INSTALLING. https://www.osnews.com/story/134847/android-13s-new-sideloading-restriction-makes-it-harder-for-malware-to-abuse-accessibility-apis/
[07:56]	TR Bot	13s new sideloading restriction makes it harder for malware to abuse Accessibility APIs OSnews
[07:57]	TR News	"So MIPS pivoted to RISC-V architecture. And the companys first chips based on that open instruction set are set to launch later this year. MIPS is promising best-in-class performance, but well likely have to wait until this fall to find out whether the company can deliver on that promise." https://liliputing.com/2022/05/lilbits-mips-pivots-to-risc-v-intel-stagers-desktop-arc-graphics-release-and-google-releases-i-o-pinball.htm
[07:57]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://liliputing.com/2022/05/lilbits-mips-pivots-to-risc-v-intel-stagers-desktop-arc-graphics-release-and-google-releases-i-o-pinball.htm )
[07:58]	TR News	"Amazon" destroying forests https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/virginia_amazon_datacenter/
[07:58]	TR Bot	 Virginians sue to block rural Amazon datacenter construction The Register
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[08:00]	TR News	Clearview needs to be shut down and its executives arrested. It's a miracle that in this world the "professional" thieves get away with anything.... https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/clearview_ai_alcu/
[08:00]	TR Bot	 Clearview AI settles with ACLU on face-recog database sales The Register
[08:01]	TR News	"Netskope said that EXE and DLL files account for nearly half of all malware downloads as malicious actors continue to see Microsoft Windows as a prime target for attacks." https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/malware_attacks_regional/
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Malware attacks getting more regional, claims Netskope The Register
[08:02]	TR News	Far too many US companies operate at a loss and some get bailed out by taxpayers, e.g. Microsoft (stealing from the public) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/palantir_share_price_collapses/
[08:02]	TR Bot	 Palantir CEO: Threat of nuclear conflict 'underestimated' The Register
[08:05]	TR News	"The solution uses a cheap computer development platform Raspberry Pi with a mobile network modem and a wireless internet access point running an Android-based system, micro-HDMI to HDMI cable, and an Ethernet cable." https://www.benzinga.com/tech/22/05/27074735/tesla-refuses-to-integrate-apples-carplay-you-can-do-it-anyway
[08:05]	TR Bot	Motors, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA), Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) - Tesla Refuses To Integrate Apple's CarPlay You Can Do It Anyway | Benzinga
[08:06]	TR News	"That video feed is supplied by a collection of hardware carried inside the vehicle, which is used to run Android. The assembly includes a pair of Raspberry Pi units, with one used for Android and the other using Linux and handling video and connectivity duties." https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/05/09/theres-a-hack-to-add-carplay-support-to-a-tesla
[08:06]	TR Bot	a hack to add CarPlay support to a Tesla | AppleInsider
[08:09]	TR News	Orphaned does not mean malicious https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/ios_android_stores_host_more/
[08:09]	TR Bot	 iOS, Android stores host more than 1.5m 'abandoned' apps The Register
[08:12]	TR News	"Trade groups representing AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and the like decided to withdraw their lawsuit, which had already been coldly received three times in federal courts." https://www.fastcompany.com/90749582/big-isps-finally-gave-up-on-blocking-californias-landmark-network-neutrality-law
[08:12]	TR Bot	 Big ISPs just gave up on blocking net neutrality law in CA
[08:12]	TR News	Promote research through free software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164864
[08:12]	TR Bot	 Promote research through free software | Tux Machines
[08:14]	TR News	Indias battle with Pegasus malware tells a bigger tale of tech laws - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/08/pegasus_india_data_law_controversy/ Source: theregister
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Indias battle with Pegasus tells a bigger tale of tech laws The Register
[08:15]	TR News	"Software has an impact on climate change and we as software engineers can make a difference. By keeping the created carbon emissions in mind and doing what is possible to reduce carbon emissions caused by software, we can contribute to the fight against climate change." https://www.infoq.com/articles/fight-climate-change-software-engineer/
[08:15]	TR Bot	 How to Fight Climate Change as a Software Engineer
[08:17]	TR News	"From bypassing censorship to watching porn, Indians usage of VPNs has been increasing in recent years. Now, whether VPNs comply with the new rule or exit the country, it is the user whose privacy will be at stake." https://restofworld.org/2022/indias-vpn-crackdown-surveillance/
[08:17]	TR Bot	 India orders VPN companies to collect user data - Rest of World
[08:17]	TR News	Raspberry Pi & Machine Learning: All You Need to Know https://all3dp.com/2/raspberry-pi-machine-learning-simply-explained/
[08:17]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://all3dp.com/2/raspberry-pi-machine-learning-simply-explained/ )
[08:19]	TR News	President Zelensky invited us to perform in Kyiv" https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bono-edge-u2-ukraine/
[08:19]	TR Bot	 Bono and the Edge Perform in Ukrainian Bomb Shelter
[08:20]	TR News	Suicides used as an excuse to increase spying https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/300575140/starship-launches-youth-mental-health-app-as-selfharm-among-young-people-spikes
[08:20]	TR Bot	launches youth mental health app as self-harm among young people spikes | Stuff.co.nz
[08:23]	TR News	NVIDIA has open-sourced its Linux GPU kernel drivers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748#comment-33679
[08:23]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines
[08:24]	TR News	Intro to Micronaut: A clown-native Java framework | InfoWorld https://www.infoworld.com/article/3658968/intro-to-micronaut-a-cloud-native-java-framework.html Source: infoworld
[08:24]	TR Bot	to Micronaut: A cloud-native Java framework | InfoWorld
[08:25]	TR News	"Avdi Grimm describes the future of development, which is already here. Get a tour of a devcontainer, and contrast it with a deployment container." https://www.infoq.com/presentations/reproducible-dev-containers/
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Reproducible Development with Containers
[08:26]	TR News	Buzzwords are not skills https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-5-ai-skills-to-land-a-job-in-the-faang-companies-in-2022/
[08:26]	TR Bot	 You are being redirected...
[08:28]	TR News	"This content is sponsored by iTech Solutions." IT Jungle has rapidly become a puff piece dump of IBM, Intel etc. ttps://www.itjungle.com/2022/05/11/groundhog-day-for-malware/
[08:28]	TR News	MAYA-W2 Tri-Radio includes Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.2 and IEEE 802.15.4 support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164865
[08:28]	TR Bot	 MAYA-W2 Tri-Radio includes Wi-Fi 6, Bluetooth 5.2 and IEEE 802.15.4 support | Tux Machines
[08:32]	TR News	Razer's Pricey New Linux Laptop Is for Deepfakes Instead of Headshots http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164690#comment-33680
[08:32]	TR Bot	 The Razer Lambda Tensorbook deep learning laptop is a milestone in pure Linux power | Tux Machines
[08:34]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 14, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/irc-log-140522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/irc-log-140522/
[08:34]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 14, 2022 | Techrights
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[08:48]	matey	activelow   X11 was a DEC project too, this company is defunct, and 20years later their "innovation" remains a headache  this is how systemd sneaked into x11...  DEC X11 -> ... same thing
[08:48]	matey	that makes fuck-all sense
[08:49]	matey	x11 was mit, systemd hasnt snuck into x11
[08:49]	matey	maybe theres a dec/x11 connection but it certainly wasnt a dec product
[08:49]	matey	nonsense
[08:49]	matey	and dec has zero connection to systemd, which is the most crackpot part of the whole thing
[08:51]	matey	systemd and wayland might be an issue
[08:52]	matey	wayland and x11 might be an issue
[08:52]	matey	im 99% certain thats not only trivial to fix, but fixed already
[08:53]	matey	unless youre only watching from gnu/linux... at which point someone should point out that x11 predates (and isnt ruled by) the linux kernel
[08:53]	matey	but by all means remove wayland
[08:53]	matey	its a turd
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[09:06]	matey	activelow   i won't be using X11 anymore at all <- cool, text-only
[09:06]	matey	plus a six-sixel shell by the c shore
[09:12]	TR News	Clearview AI banned from selling its facial recognition software to most US companies https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/clearview-ai-banned-selling-facial-190534404.html
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Clearview AI banned from selling its facial recognition software to most US companies
[09:14]	TR News	Case against Ola Bini has consequences for all of Latin America, says report : Peoples Dispatch https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/05/09/case-against-ola-bini-has-consequences-for-all-of-latin-america-says-report/ "Bini, digital rights activist and friend of Julian Assange may be sentenced to up to 5 years in prison by an Ecuadorian court"
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Case against Ola Bini has consequences for all of Latin America, says report : Peoples Dispatch
[09:16]	TR News	"VPN user data leaked on Telegram." https://thecyberwire.com/newsletters/privacy-briefing/4/89
[09:16]	TR Bot	 Data breach at California State Bar. Pegasus and India's data privacy laws. VPN user data leaked on Telegram.
[09:19]	TR News	ICBM is moaning about talent shortage while laying off some of its most experienced workers https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-10-IBM-Tackles-Talent-Shortage-and-Cybersecurity-Crisis-with-New-and-Expanded-Partnerships
[09:19]	TR Bot	 IBM Tackles Talent Shortage and Cybersecurity Crisis with New and Expanded Partnerships
[09:21]	TR News	Real books, not DRM garbage https://eu.oklahoman.com/story/news/education/2022/05/10/dolly-parton-program-offers-free-books-oklahoma-kids-5-and-under/9718660002/
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Dolly Parton program offers free books to Oklahoma kids 5 and under
[09:22]	TR News	Parroting the lies that this is about protecting children https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/11/23066683/eu-child-abuse-grooming-scanning-messaging-apps-break-encryption-feasr
[09:22]	TR Bot	 New EU rules would require chat apps to scan private messages for child abuse - The Verge
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[09:25]	TR News	It's not a Free software problem; Proprietary software has the exact same peril but it's worse because orphaned work cannot be maintained or fixed, not even audited SOS: Sustainable Open Source
[09:25]	TR News	It's not a Free software problem; Proprietary software has the exact same peril but it's worse because orphaned work cannot be maintained or fixed, not even audited https://thenewstack.io/sos-sustainable-open-source/
[09:25]	TR Bot	 SOS: Sustainable Open Source The New Stack
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[09:27]	TR News	GNU/Linux-based Robot Operating System 2: Design, architecture, and uses in the wild https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.abm6074
[09:27]	TR Bot	( status 503 @ https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.abm6074 )
[09:28]	TR News	"Companies are building software that uses [buzzword] to monitor peoples behavior and interpret their emotions and body language in real life, virtually and even in the [buzzword]. But to develop that [buzzword], they need fake data, and startups are stepping in to supply it." https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-enterprise/synthetic-data-ai-cloud-databases
[09:28]	TR Bot	data companies include Datagen, Mindtech and Synthesis AI - Protocol
[09:29]	TR News	This push towards Microsoft PASSWORD STEALER is hilarious https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/tech/article/Don-t-settle-Here-are-solid-alternatives-for-17166298.php http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Dont settle! Here are solid alternatives for Apples lesser software
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights
[09:30]	TR News	Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols wrote this some days ago https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/not_all_opensource_leaders_are/ after himself participation in shameless campaigns of defamation http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Not all open-source leaders are jerks The Register
[09:30]	TR Bot	 One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights
[09:33]	TR News	CNN now spreads "Bill Gates Fast Facts", in effect whitewashing a very famous criminal, one of the most reviled people in the world, who moreover enabled a child sex trafficker. Later the mainstream media moans about "Fake News" and not having respect from the public... maybe stop protecting high-profile criminals, for a start...
[09:34]	TR News	Pentagon-connected companies that steal money from the taxpayers (de facto bailouts) are harming everybody else https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/rackspace_reorg_considered/
[09:34]	TR Bot	 Rackspace considering selling part of its business The Register
[09:36]	TR News	CIQ raises $26M to promote free alternative to Red Hat Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729#comment-33681
[09:36]	TR Bot	 $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines
[09:37]	TR News	"The authors of a major study on the once critically endangered pink pigeon say boosting the species' numbers is not enough to save it from extinction in the future." https://phys.org/news/2022-05-rosy-pink-pigeon.html
[09:37]	TR Bot	 Not all is rosy for the pink pigeon, study finds
[09:38]	TR News	This is how dumb the population has become https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/may/12/ask-khn-politifact-should-you-worry-about-data-you/
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Should you worry about data from your period-tracking app being used against you?
[09:39]	TR News	Then again, many people apparently buy "Smart" sex toys which connect to BT, Wi-Fi, "smart" 'phone' etc, so I guess "period-tracking app" isn't even the peak of human stupidity
[09:40]	TR News	Ukraine war puts Japan's clean energy transition at risk https://www.ft.com/content/9e59de66-4fe1-4728-8d43-bf5d456ea3f7 "Hiroshima relies on the source for half of its supply."
[09:40]	TR Bot	 Ukraine war puts Japans clean energy transition at risk | Financial Times
[09:42]	TR News	Gulag Search has become more aggressive in pushing everyone to move to a piece of malware called "CHROME". Pop-ups, warnings etc. GET THIS MALWARE OR MISS OUT!
[09:56]	TR News	Today's World Wide Web is not safe as it is littered not with hate but with scams and spam. But the scams are really terrible, pushing junk like "NFT" to people, potentially stealing their money.
[09:57]	TR News	Google works for the NSA. No security professional (a real security person) would take this seriously. https://therecord.media/google-open-source-security-team-openssf/
[09:57]	TR Bot	 Google to create security team for open source projects - The Record by Recorded Future
[09:58]	TR News	Gulag (Google): we worry about Open Source security!!!! [Google engineers slips backdoored encryption into Linux kernel...]
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[10:01]	TR News	Monopolies and oligopolies https://fortune.com/2022/05/13/diversifying-infant-formula-industry-critical-to-preventing-another-shortage-startup-founders-say/
[10:01]	TR Bot	infant formula shortage is caused by corporate monopoly, founders say | Fortune
[10:01]	TR News	I keep hearing about people who get infested with COVID-19 again and again. And it puts them in bed. Even people who got FOUR jabs!
[10:02]	TR News	Yes, you probably ought to stop carrying around a "smart" "phone"; they do lots of bad things, not just like these... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/yes-phones-can-reveal-if-someone-gets-an-abortion/
[10:02]	TR Bot	 Yes, Phones Can Reveal if Someone Gets an Abortion - Scientific American
[10:03]	TR News	Reasons why the tech stock crash may be far from over https://www.ft.com/content/00f6f7de-3d84-419f-bd05-07583a3345c7
[10:03]	TR Bot	 Reasons why the tech stock crash may be far from over | Financial Times
[10:05]	TR News	You should be worried about getting conned into sharing so much personal data https://khn.org/news/article/period-tracking-apps-data-privacy/
[10:05]	TR Bot	 Should You Worry About Data From Your Period-Tracking App Being Used Against You? | Kaiser Health News
[10:07]	TR News	"My brother and I were two and a half years apart in age. We looked VERY similar to each other. For the first month after he died, I felt like I saw him in the mirror when I looked. When were kids, aged 9 and 11 say, I would get so mad when people thought we were twins." gemini://rooster.smol.pub/alike
[10:08]	TR News	"It looks like it stopped accepting new sites about a year ago, but its worth a look there are a few gems. I think 90s internet nostalgia is my biggest guilty pleasure these days." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220514_90s_internet
[10:19]	TR News	A Year With Children 2022 from Guggenheim??????? Which takes bribes and spreads propaganda for Jeffrey Epstein's BFF, Bill Gates??? https://thecitylife.org/2022/05/13/guggenheim-arts-education-program-learning-through-art-presents-a-year-with-children-2022/
[10:19]	TR Bot	 City Life Org - Guggenheim Arts Education Program, Learning Through Art, Presents A Year With Children 2022
[10:20]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Pico vs Zero: The Differences https://all3dp.com/2/raspberry-pi-pico-vs-zero-compared/
[10:20]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://all3dp.com/2/raspberry-pi-pico-vs-zero-compared/ )
[10:21]	TR News	The 5 Best Open Source Android Apps for Productivity https://www.makeuseof.com/best-android-productivity-apps/
[10:21]	TR Bot	 The 5 Best Open Source Android Apps for Productivity
[10:26]	TR News	Facebook deliberately took down Australian government pages during pay-for-news negotiations: report https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/facebook_australia_influence/
[10:26]	TR Bot	 Facebook abused power to influence pay-for-news laws: report The Register
[10:27]	TR News	Most Apple employees are sweatshop employees. The engineers too are treated poorly. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/apple_return_to_the_office/
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Apple's return-to-office plan savaged by staff group The Register
[10:28]	TR News	The huge cost of using Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/02/in_brief_security/
[10:28]	TR Bot	 American Dental Association hit in 'cybersecurity incident' The Register
[10:29]	TR News	Microsoft also lays off Azure staff and shuts down some datacentres; it relies a lot on government bailouts (stealing from taxpayers https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/azure_video_analyzer_retired/
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Microsoft to ax Azure Video Analyzer The Register
[10:30]	TR News	Legacy? Clown is dangerous hype. And they violate privacy. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/11/gds_gets_over_historic_formatting/
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Travel techies Sabre ink deal with Google The Register
[10:30]	TR News	"In an interview this week with The Register, RISC-V International CEO Calista Redmond reckons the buy-in, which comes in the form of paid memberships" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/07/riscv_ceo_seeks_world_domination/
[10:30]	TR Bot	 RISC-V CEO: Winning over giants like Intel key to growth The Register
[10:36]	TR News	SAS announces support for Python - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/sas_python_support/ Source: theregister
[10:36]	TR Bot	 SAS announces support for Python The Register
[10:37]	TR News	Delete Windows and the ransomware will go away too https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771947/how-remove-undetected-ransomware-from-my-windows-pc/
[10:37]	TR Bot	 How remove undetected ransomware from my Windows PC - Ransomware Help & Tech Support
[10:38]	TR News	Microsoft did the same to the Minecraft pioneer https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/jeffrey_snover_said_microsoft_demoted/
[10:38]	TR Bot	 Jeffrey Snover claims Microsoft demoted him for PowerShell The Register
[10:40]	TR News	India will learn the hard way that Uber should be banned. These companies have a very sinister and collectively destructive agenda. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/indian_government_ridesharing_regulation_crackdown/
[10:40]	TR Bot	 India government accuses Uber of hiking up prices The Register
[10:41]	TR News	"passwordless authentication" = surveillance and weaker security, or mostly theatre for convenience's sake. Having a data breach of NOT convenient.
[10:42]	TR News	"Dude, I had "passwordless authentication"... and then someone chopped off my finger" (or stole the "phone")
[10:43]	TR News	It was always hype, branding, and perceived "class"; technically speaking, the competition was better https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/end_of_ipod/
[10:43]	TR Bot	 Apple ends the iPod. Last model sold 'while supplies last' The Register
[10:44]	TR News	While the media obsesses over "Linux" (systemd) bugs that could be exploited, by a local user, Microsoft has these blunders that the media typically shies away from (zero-days, unlike Linux, and far more severe too) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/microsoft_patch_tuesday/
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Microsoft closes Windows LSA hole under active attack The Register
[10:45]	TR News	Spat out my tea at "Microsoft Security Experts" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/microsoft_security_experts/ Microsoft is the OPPOSITE of security http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Microsoft rolls out Security Experts service The Register
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
[10:46]	TR News	With Microsoft, security is NOT a possibility https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/10/cve-2022-26925/
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Microsoft patches Windows LSA spoofing zero-day under active attack (CVE-2022-26925) - Help Net Security
[10:47]	TR News	Microsoft security advice (that would actually work): turn off the computer until we issue a patch for the zero-day remotely-exploitable hole.
[10:48]	TR News	One of these runs GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/mars_helicopter_battery/
[10:48]	TR Bot	 Mars Ingenuity helicopter talking to Perseverance again The Register
[10:49]	TR News	While Bill Gates flies on planes of Jeffrey Epstein and visits Esptein in prison Microsoft continues to abuse women https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/linkedin_settles_department_of_labor/ also see http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/
[10:49]	TR Bot	 LinkedIn settles Dept of Labor charges it underpaid women The Register
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Linked In to Pedophilia | Techrights
[10:50]	TR News	Microsoft loves to publicly brag about protecting women because, just like greenwashing, it makes business (marketing) sense.
[10:52]	TR News	"Legacy" is a new misleading term for "something that works". "Modernisation" or "transformation" means something that works for the Pentagon, e.g. CLOWN computing. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/legacy_it_benefits_delay/
[10:52]	TR Bot	 UK finance minister blames legacy IT for benefits delay The Register
[10:56]	TR News	There's even religion in Gemini now. New: gemini://idiomdrottning.org/biblical-marriage
[10:57]	TR News	"Tools that follow the UNIX philosophy aka smaller, yet better, programs for Linux." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-05-10.gmi
[10:58]	TR News	The Disappearence of Sincere Conversations gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-05-10-2.gmi "The technological advancements have brought good and bad, but are the overwhelming majority of the advantages working for us or against us?"
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[10:59]	TR News	"It is not your job to critique someone who's accomplished something wonderful, based on the size of their sources." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-05-09.lagrange.gmi
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[11:02]	TR News	[pull] drm/msm: drm-msm-next-2022-05-09 for v5.19 - Rob Clark https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/CAF6AEGvJCr_1D8d0dgmyQC5HD4gmXeZw=bFV_CNCfceZbpMxRw@mail.gmail.com/ Source: kernel
[11:02]	TR Bot	 [pull] drm/msm: drm-msm-next-2022-05-09 for v5.19 - Rob Clark
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[11:03]	TR News	"The pgAdmin Development Team is pleased to announce pgAdmin 4 version 6.9. This release of pgAdmin 4 includes 29 bug fixes and new features. For more details please see the release notes." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-4-v69-released-2450/
[11:03]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.9 Released
[11:06]	TR News	Golang v1.18 New Features and Released https://www.markaicode.com/en/golang-v1-18-new-features-and-released/
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Golang v1.18 New Features and Released | Mark Ai Code
[11:06]	TR News	Colorama in Python https://www.markaicode.com/en/colorama-in-python/
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Colorama in Python | Mark Ai Code
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[11:09]	TR News	"Globally we saw nearly every industry go to 100% remote [sic] (HOME) working overnight." https://it.slashdot.org/story/22/05/15/0059224/red-hat-ceo-remote-working-is-just-another-day-to-the-open-source-world
[11:09]	TR Bot	 Red Hat CEO: Remote Working is 'Just Another Day' to the Open Source World - Slashdot
[11:14]	TR News	Microsoft Windows is costing the US taxpayers, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/us-reward-conti-ransomware/
[11:14]	TR Bot	 US offers $15m for help catching Conti ransomware gang The Register
[11:15]	TR News	US judge dismisses Republican efforts to block release of Salesforce emails https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/salesforce_capitol_emails/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/
[11:15]	TR Bot	 Efforts to block release of RNC Salesforce emails dismissed The Register
[11:15]	TR Bot	 The OSIs President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights
[11:15]	TR News	Oligarchs trying to control the public's minds and mouths https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/musk_twitter_ellison/
[11:15]	TR Bot	 Larry Ellison puts up $1b to help fund Musk's Twitter buyout The Register
[11:17]	TR News	Windows TCO: "WhisperGate corrupts an infected Windows system's master boot record" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/us_eu_russia/
[11:17]	TR Bot	 US, EU formally blame Russia for Ukraine data wiper attacks The Register
[11:17]	TR News	Worthless companies. They need to fall another 90% to reach their true value. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/uber_meta_employment_stocks/
[11:17]	TR Bot	 Uber, Meta to reduce hiring as stocks slide The Register
[11:19]	TR News	Linux Foundation: we badmouth Linux security while taking Microsoft cash, just like Zemlin the wife http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights
[11:20]	TR News	Some people still use Windows.... https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/windows_server_update_authentication_errors/
[11:20]	TR Bot	 Windows update breaks authentication for some server admins The Register
[11:23]	TR News	The Zemlin family bags more money from Microsoft than the Linux Foundation bags from Microsoft. http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/
[11:23]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164866
[11:23]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[11:24]	TR News	Jim Zemlin: megalomania http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4
[11:27]	TR News	Proprietar: Apple and Microsoft (Product Shutdowns, Failures) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164867
[11:27]	TR Bot	 Proprietar: Apple and Microsoft (Product Shutdowns, Failures) | Tux Machines
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[11:30]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164868
[11:30]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[11:32]	TR News	After hours of meticulous searching we've come to the conclusion Linus Torvalds has not been "seen" publicly (like an event) for a very long time. His isolation isn't due to COVID-19. He hardly does interviews, either. He got marginalised. http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
[11:32]	TR Bot	 [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
[11:33]	TR News	By entering OSDL and then LF Linux Torvalds has effectively demoted himself. It was a foolish move in hindsight. Look what became of LF over time: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
[11:35]	TR News	Gulag is copying billions it not a trillion images from all over the Web. AMP took that a step further -- Gulag copying text too. Gulag's size and reach is owed to billions of slaves online that are treated as "user" "generated" "content" "creators". It's exploitation taken to the extreme.
[11:39]	mjg59_	schestowitz: Sorry, are you arguing for copyright to be strengthened?
[11:39]	TR News	Today Techrights will focus on EPO
[11:50]	TR News	GNU/Linux in Devices Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164869
[11:50]	TR Bot	 GNU/Linux in Devices | Tux Machines
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[11:52]	TR News	Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164870
[11:52]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and RISC-V | Tux Machines
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[12:01]	matey	how is copyright supposed to be stronger? drm that releases shrapnel and poison gas?
[12:02]	matey	life imprisonment for anyone sharing a netflix password?
[12:03]	matey	none of which would work, theyve had the death penalty for copyright infrigement before (or the equivalent of copyright infrigement) 
[12:03]	matey	that didnt work either
[12:04]	matey	and thats besides the matter of the catholic church letting people know EXACTLY how they felt about the gutenberg printing press
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[12:05]	matey	bible: word of god for the betterment of mankind
[12:05]	matey	also bible: TRADE SECRETS
[12:06]	mjg59_	matey: It's hard to argue that Google shouldn't make use of publicly available content without arguing that copyright should be stronger
[12:06]	TR News	"United States District Judge Beth Labson Freeman has certified an "out of pocket" approach to determining damages incurred by investors as a result of Oracle's alleged false statements about its cloud revenue. Oracle has consistently insisted the case which dates back to 2018 has no merit." https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/oracle_cloud_sales_case/
[12:06]	TR Bot	 Judge agrees damages model in Oracle cloud class-action The Register
[12:06]	mjg59_	Blocking big tech from doing stuff with online material also probably stops anyone else from doing that
[12:06]	matey	matey: It's hard to argue that Google shouldn't make use of publicly available content <- im sure youre referring to a certain type of content, otherwise its a pretty weak argument
[12:07]	mjg59_	Should Google be prevented from indexing images people have put on the public web?
[12:07]	matey	are they following robots.txt?
[12:07]	mjg59_	If so, what would that actually look like and what would the other consequences be?
[12:08]	mjg59_	Yeah they're following robots.txt
[12:08]	matey	then they should be able to index (imo)
[12:08]	matey	i dont necessarily think robots.txt is sacred, but theres an argument to be made for it regardless of copyright status
[12:08]	mjg59_	Yeah but it sounds like Roy disagrees
[12:08]	matey	roys positions change from time to time
[12:09]	matey	sometimes i think theyre more like superpositions
[12:09]	mjg59_	And I'd kind of like to know whether this is a meaningful position or just a reflexive anti-corp position
[12:09]	matey	also for a guy who follows the epo and talks about patents constantly, he seems to not really understand copyright very well
[12:09]	schestowitz	straw man from Gulagman
[12:09]	schestowitz	I argued against Gulag making its own copies
[12:10]	schestowitz	and serving those copies
[12:10]	schestowitz	instead of linking to the originals
[12:10]	schestowitz	which is feasible
[12:10]	mjg59_	Yeah but that's still a discussion about how far copyright should reach
[12:10]	TR News	Programming and Servers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164871
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Programming and Servers | Tux Machines
[12:10]	TR News	Free Sofwtare Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164872
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Free Sofwtare Leftovers | Tux Machines
[12:11]	matey	i dislike google, strongly. im also against creating (or strengthening) laws that fuck over everyone else to "get" google (who will find another way round)
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[12:12]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[12:12]	matey	i mean you can run up to a tank holding a grenade
[12:12]	mjg59_	Regulatory capture is a real thing
[12:12]	matey	but youre going to be fucked, and the tank wont be hurt. you dont have to like the tank to understand this
[12:12]	mjg59_	And Google has the resources to handle it well
[12:12]	matey	<mjg59_> Regulatory capture is a real thing <- it is
[12:13]	matey	id like to know what the problem with google caching images is
[12:13]	matey	also havent they done this forever?
[12:13]	matey	whats changed?
[12:13]	mjg59_	Any argument about Google doing something unethical (which, yes, obv) needs to posit a meaningful way to solve that without fucking everyone else over more
[12:14]	matey	if techrights considered solutions more often, it might result in a better understanding of the problem
[12:14]	matey	its really not a solutions blog, its a problems blog
[12:15]	matey	which is fine of course
[12:15]	matey	i mean you dont HAVE TO talk about solutions to talk about problems
[12:15]	matey	only sometimes it would help you understand the problem better
[12:15]	matey	or when something looks like a problem and it really isnt
[12:16]	mjg59_	Being purely problem-focused risks "Something should be done" and then the something in question makes things worse
[12:16]	matey	i mean there are solutions like "ibm should stop [being dicks]" but later on you find out theyre going to die anyway
[12:16]	matey	so like we dont really "need" a solution that would fix the problems like many years sooner...
[12:17]	matey	well i like solutions
[12:17]	matey	i love (talking about) problems
[12:17]	matey	though once youve given the world a chance to talk about solutions, and they arent, considering possible solutions is a good next step
[12:17]	TR News	Links 15/05/2022: More Azure Shutdowns and Windows Security Blunders Aplenty | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/more-azure-shutdowns/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/more-azure-shutdowns/
[12:17]	matey	unless you dont really care about the problems at all
[12:17]	TR Bot	 Links 15/05/2022: More Azure Shutdowns and Windows Security Blunders Aplenty | Techrights
[12:18]	matey	like if you really care about a problem
[12:18]	matey	and you see no ones fixing it
[12:18]	matey	maybe its YOUR problem, (voluntarily of course).
[12:18]	mjg59_	That's fair
[12:18]	matey	yours to propose a solution for 
[12:18]	matey	i dont mean this in a concrete way
[12:18]	matey	only a philosophical one
[12:18]	mjg59_	But you should still try to understand the wider context of the problem
[12:19]	matey	of course
[12:19]	mjg59_	Not just the way it directly impacts you
[12:19]	matey	without context, a problem 
[12:19]	matey	i mean its like trying to solve the tip of an iceberg
[12:19]	matey	the tip isnt even the real problem
[12:19]	matey	and if you solve it, youve solved nothing
[12:20]	matey	your ship is just as potentially fucked as before
[12:20]	matey	only now you dont even know where the tip is
[12:22]	matey	http://techrights.org/2021/03/09/ibm-and-community/
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Things IBM Can Do to Help the GNU/Linux Community Instead of Trying to Monopolise Almost Everything | Techrights
[12:22]	matey	"IBM needs to recognise that it doesnt exist in a vacuum and a lot of the software it leverages (and profits from) wasnt developed for or by IBM."
[12:23]	matey	what are the odds of that happening?
[12:23]	matey	i mean they might pivot and just become a chain of ice cream parlours
[12:23]	matey	im going to go out on a limb here and say it will never happen
[12:24]	matey	"Perhaps most importantly, IBM should quit lobbying for software patents. Instead, IBM should use its clout to abolish all of those patents."
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[12:25]	TR News	"So as always, we (and several prominent members of the hacking scene) recommend you do not update your console, if you can, and if youre expecting to Jailbreak it eventually." https://wololo.net/2022/05/13/ps4-9-60-and-ps5-5-10-firmware-updates-released-do-not-update-if-possible/
[12:25]	TR Bot	9.60 and PS5 5.10 Firmware updates released, do not update if possible - Wololo.net
[12:25]	matey	on fridays they should let everyone work outdoors and distribute candy and chocolate to passersby
[12:26]	TR News	Proprietary excrement from Microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/04/outlook_safari_bug/
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Outlook bombards Safari users with endless downloads The Register
[12:27]	TR News	Microsoft continues to rip off KDE https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/windows_suggested_actions/
[12:27]	TR Bot	 Windows Insider Dev Channel build brings 'Suggested Actions' The Register
[12:27]	matey	but should we do something to stand up to ibm or have any leverage?
[12:27]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/15/ukraine-authorities-mariupol-steelworks-shelled-with-fire-or-phosphorus-bombs-news "Ukraine authorities: Mariupol steelworks shelled with "fire or phosphorus bombs""
[12:27]	TR Bot	 . 
[12:27]	matey	no need for that
[12:28]	matey	just let them continue taking over until they understand their mistake
[12:28]	TR News	This could be a trademark problem because of KDE. Klipper started in the 1990s. https://all3dp.com/2/klipperscreen-simply-explained/
[12:28]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://all3dp.com/2/klipperscreen-simply-explained/ )
[12:29]	matey	stalin actually had a similar take on what to do about nazis invading russia
[12:29]	matey	first he blew up the fortifications put there SPECIFICALLY to stop them
[12:29]	matey	as a gesture of goodwill!
[12:29]	TR News	Noble and honourable racism... with a suit on https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/ban_china_from_social_media/
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Kick China off social media, says tech governance expert The Register
[12:29]	matey	then, when his own officers came to him saying they were streaming into positions and killing russians all over the place
[12:29]	matey	stalin was like "dont provoke them" 
[12:29]	matey	because it might start a REAL war
[12:30]	matey	this wasnt a war, it was just a nazi invasion.
[12:30]	matey	TIS BUT A SCRATCH!
[12:30]	XRevan86	matey: Excuse me, they didn't declare war, therefore it was a special military operation.
[12:30]	TR News	How to fake "Azure" so-called 'market share' while worsening security https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/azure_ad_update_compliance/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
[12:30]	TR Bot	 Microsoft ushering users toward Azure Active Directory The Register
[12:30]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
[12:30]	matey	noel coward sang "dont lets be beastly to the germans" but stalin was the one who made it a military plan.
[12:31]	matey	 <XRevan86> matey: Excuse me, they didn't declare war, therefore it was a special military operation. <- i do apologise
[12:31]	matey	to both stalin(s) and hitler, my mistake!
[12:31]	DaemonFC	Wired just ran a Bill Gates article that went on and on, more than just a puff piece.
[12:31]	DaemonFC	Sickening.
[12:32]	TR News	The real industry has already moved to the far east, but the dying brand names keep people in the dark about the true origins of the products https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/tsmc_samsung_price_hikes/
[12:32]	TR Bot	 TSMC, Samsung plan price hikes for chip designers The Register
[12:32]	DaemonFC	I remember when Wired was a real news outlet and highly critical of Microsoft in many cases, including announcing that they would quit trying to optimize their website for Microsoft Internet Explorer and write web standards-compliant markup instead....in 2000, when IE had virtually the entire browser market.
[12:33]	TR News	A lot of the industry is a bubble with fake fiscal valuations https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/softbanks_tech_loss/
[12:33]	TR Bot	 SoftBank to stop investing 'randomly' after $13bn loss The Register
[12:34]	TR News	Microsoft: biggest leech on US taxpayers http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[12:34]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[12:34]	DaemonFC	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theregister.com | SoftBank to stop investing 'randomly' after $13bn loss The Register
[12:34]	DaemonFC	They had to merge Sprint with T-Mobile to get out from under that.
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[12:35]	DaemonFC	Softbank lost money every single year for more than a decade on Sprint. They could never make it profitable. A lot of that was a botched merger with Nextel and investments in oddball technologies that had to be decommissioned again very shortly.
[12:35]	TR News	Burning the only planet for fake (man-made, fiction) "money" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/03/crypto_mining_environment/ send them to Mars... they can 'mine' that stuff there till they run out of air
[12:35]	TR Bot	 Don't blame cryptomining, blame the power giants, EPA told The Register
[12:36]	DaemonFC	The way they ran Sprint was fucking ridiculous.
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[12:36]	TR News	It is NOT a service, it's SURVEILLANCE. Similar words, different meaning. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/citrix_daas_google_azure/
[12:36]	TR Bot	 Citrix spreads its DaaS across Google and Azure clouds The Register
[12:37]	DaemonFC	And then after they blew billions of dollars on botched mergers and bad technologies, they fired all their American support workers and outsourced to the Philippines to cut customer service expenses.
[12:37]	TR News	Attorney General Bonta: Californias Net Neutrality Law Is Here to Stay | State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bonta-californias-net-neutrality-law-here-stay Source: oag
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Attorney General Bonta: Californias Net Neutrality Law Is Here to Stay | State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
[12:37]	DaemonFC	When T-Mobile acquired Sprint, they kept the customer service in the Philippines.
[12:38]	TR News	Microsoft resellers a threat to national security https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/11/five_eyes_msp/
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Five Eyes highlight MSPs as potential weak links in supply The Register
[12:38]	DaemonFC	When I was signing up for T-Mobile Home Internet, which I ditched after just 8 months (which was hell), the guy taking my order had dogs barking in the background.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	They had everyone working out of their house because they couldn't get people vaccinated and get things open again.
[12:39]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "In 2014, the FBI attributed the Sony Pictures cyberattack to North Korea, and US law enforcement blamed the 2017 NotPetya attacks on the Russian military. " https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/07/false_flag_attacks/
[12:39]	TR Bot	 Mandiant CEO: False-flag ops a red line for nation-states The Register
[12:39]	DaemonFC	NPR is still running the "unvaccinated avoidable deaths" thing, but their main victim is themselves.
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[12:40]	schestowitz	BillPR
[12:40]	schestowitz	my mom just got COVIF a SECOND time
[12:40]	schestowitz	*COVID
[12:40]	schestowitz	she got two boosters already
[12:40]	schestowitz	but you see? COVID is "dead"...
[12:41]	schestowitz	it just keeps attacking
[12:41]	schestowitz	maybe another placebo will fix it
[12:41]	schestowitz	go on... ANOTHER booster
[12:42]	TR News	NDAs at ICBM https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/ibm_shareholders_nda/
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Shareholders turn the screws on IBM and its gag orders The Register
[12:44]	matey	interesting priorities
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[12:44]	TR News	El Reg boosts "Gartner" as if they're experts rather than frauds who take bribes https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/germany_chipmaker_subsidies/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
[12:44]	TR Bot	 Germany wants to woo more chip manufacturers The Register
[12:44]	TR Bot	 Gartner Group - Techrights
[12:45]	XRevan86	https://kp.ru/daily/27392.5/4586951/ "Russia is not letting Kyiv begin a holodomor in Ukraine"
[12:45]	XRevan86	The audacity of that article title is impressive. Give all the grain to Russia and it will responsibly try to sell it in the Middle East.
[12:45]	TR Bot	 - KP.Ru
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[12:46]	TR News	Microsoft Windows ransomware; they have left out important details https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/in_brief_security/
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Colonial Pipeline faces nearly $1m fine after ransomware The Register
[12:47]	TR News	Windows TCO: "According to the FBI, the three top variants of ransomware that were deployed against critical infrastructure companies last year were Conti, LockBit and REvil/Sodinokibi." https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/farm_machinery_giant_agco_hit/
[12:47]	TR Bot	 Ransomware hits global farm machinery giant AGCO The Register
[12:48]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/RuslanLeviev/status/1525757762256441344 The pincer movement ambition.
[12:48]	TR Bot	 (@RuslanLeviev): ", " | nitter
[12:48]	TR News	It's not about protecting kids and these back doors would only endanger many kids (and adults, too) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/eu_encryption_csam/
[12:49]	TR Bot	 Europe proposes tackling child abuse by killing encryption The Register
[12:49]	TR News	UK gov.: we need to spy on everyone to protect kids and we also pay a lot of money to protect people who prey on kids (like "Prince" Andrew) from prison...
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[12:51]	TR News	Microsoft Windows the final nail in coffin for small university https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/ransomware_dangerous_enough_to_close/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Ransomware the final nail in coffin for small US university The Register
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights
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[12:52]	TR News	These need to be compromised in the first place; unlike Windows, WordPress does not have NSA back doors https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/wordpress-redirect-hack/
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Why miscreants inject JS into compromised WordPress sites The Register
[12:53]	TR News	2022
[12:54]	TR News	Usage of Microsoft Windows is extremely expensive https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/organizations_pay_ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
[12:54]	TR Bot	 Most organizations hit by ransomware would pay if hit again The Register
[12:55]	TR News	x86 a sordid, unmitigated mess http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-0154 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-0153 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-33123 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2021-0190
[12:55]	TR Bot	 CVE - CVE-2021-0154
[12:55]	TR Bot	 CVE - CVE-2021-0153
[12:55]	TR Bot	 CVE - CVE-2021-33123
[12:55]	TR Bot	 CVE - CVE-2021-0190
[12:55]	bnchs	windows is only stable if you have a ton of money to pay ransoms
[12:56]	matey	windows is only stable if you put a shim under one of the legs so it doesnt wobble
[12:57]	TR News	Pangolin8RAT https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/former_ebay_exec_pleads_guilty/ Pangolins killed by China en masse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_critically_endangered_mammals
[12:57]	TR Bot	 Another ex-eBay exec pleads guilty to cyberstalking critics The Register
[12:58]	TR Bot	 List of critically endangered mammals - Wikipedia
[12:58]	matey	 <XRevan86> https://nitter.net/RuslanLeviev/status/1525757762256441344 The pincer movement ambition. 
[12:58]	TR News	This is Microsoft trying to compel Biden and future presidents to BAIL THEM OUT some more https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/12/nuance_healthcare_ai/ as before: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[12:58]	TR Bot	 Nuance helps launch healthcare AI industry group The Register
[12:58]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[12:59]	matey	/me imagines putlin holding his fingers in front of an image of ukraine and going "squish squish squish"
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 8.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 378.45
[12:59]	TR News	Georgetown University glorifies nationalism and xenophobia https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/preserving_semiconductor_chokepoints/
[12:59]	TR Bot	 World needs multilateral chip tech export bans to hurt China The Register
[12:59]	matey	of course my image of putlin is somewhere between napoleon bonaparte and dr. evil
● May 15
[13:00]	matey	hes already got the underground lair.
[13:00]	XRevan86	Several.
[13:01]	matey	i wonder if any of them have a starbucks
[13:01]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "In the financially-motivated "cluster" of attacks, the group is using BitLocker and DiskCryptor to hold victims' documents to ransom." https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/cobalt-mirage-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/
[13:01]	TR Bot	 Report: Iran's Cobalt Mirage attacks US orgs for money, info The Register
[13:01]	TR Bot	 Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights
[13:02]	TR News	Waste of energy. Good riddance. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/asus_q1_2022/
[13:02]	TR Bot	 AsusTeK: Demand for GPUs used to mine crypto 'disappearing' The Register
[13:02]	matey	its plausible enough, one of the big railway stations in russia has a burger king with a sign overhead (soviet architecture) thats larger than probably some of their restaurants
[13:02]	bnchs	former windows developer who worked on autorun, still defends it to this day
[13:02]	matey	how, "it seemed like a good idea the first year it was implemented"?
[13:03]	bnchs	dave plummer
[13:03]	matey	does he know the guy who invented the buffer overflow vulnerability? are they pals?
[13:03]	bnchs	even with the Sony DRM crap
[13:03]	TR News	Outsourcing to proprietary Microsoft GitHub is handing it over to the NSA. This is the OPPOSITE of security. It's a laughing stock. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/cooperative_mutation_flaw_finder/
[13:03]	TR Bot	 Researchers find flaws in Word, PDF script handling The Register
[13:03]	bnchs	he doesn't blame autorun even once
[13:04]	matey	how is kevin mitnick any worse than that guy?
[13:04]	TR News	Beginning of the end of fakecoins? https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001679788/89c60d81-41a2-4a3c-86fb-b4067ab1016c.pdf
[13:05]	bnchs	free kevin!
[13:05]	matey	i mean all they had to do was TURN IT OFF
[13:05]	matey	by default
[13:05]	TR News	Workstation, server, IoT? No worries. Fedora 36 is out all 13 editions of it http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157458#comment-33682
[13:05]	TR Bot	 Fedora Linux 35 Released with GNOME 41, Fedora Kinoite Flavor, and WirePlumber | Tux Machines
[13:07]	TR News	Salesforce incompetence https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31255450
[13:07]	TR Bot	 Heroku resetting passwords for a portion of their users immediately | Hacker News
[13:08]	TR News	Great news for the planet. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/tablet_pc_sales_dip_q1_2022/
[13:08]	TR Bot	 Tablet PC sales dip as consumers consider inflation The Register
[13:09]	bnchs	https://raw.githubusercontent.com/davepl/SafeStrings/master/StringTests.cpp
[13:09]	bnchs	"(c) 2021 Plummer's Software LLC DBA Dave's Garage"
[13:10]	bnchs	"Provided under the GPL Gnu Public License 2.0"
[13:10]	bnchs	that doesn't seem so microsofty
[13:10]	matey	except for the github part
[13:10]	matey	StringTests.cpp <- does it require boost?
[13:10]	bnchs	no it requires M$ extensions
[13:10]	matey	lol
[13:11]	bnchs	microsoft employee crap
[13:11]	matey	theyve taken over open source and the fsf
[13:11]	matey	now theyll try to take over the gpl itself
[13:11]	bnchs	"I don't normally do the Unicode dance anymore, but dealing with Microsoft proprietary stuff, I do it thierway, like so:"
[13:12]	bnchs	you reap what you sow
[13:12]	matey	 but dealing with Microsoft proprietary stuff <- he said this?
[13:12]	bnchs	yes
[13:12]	matey	weird
[13:12]	bnchs	as a comment above the function OurParameterValidationFailureHandler
[13:12]	matey	you think he has multiple personalities?
[13:12]	XRevan86	Probably just meant stuff unique to MSVC and not the C standard.
[13:13]	matey	that makes more sense
[13:13]	bnchs	it's actually related to the microsoft CRT
[13:13]	bnchs	that requires the function payload to be like (wchar_t*, wchar_t*
[13:13]	TR News	Frauds and financial webspam are a thing on the WWW. I recommend Gemini. https://simplywall.st/stocks/fr/diversified-financials/epa-bsd/bourse-direct-shares/news/why-you-might-be-interested-in-bourse-direct-sa-epabsd-for-i
[13:13]	TR Bot	 Why You Might Be Interested In Bourse Direct SA (EPA:BSD) For Its Upcoming Dividend - Simply Wall St News
[13:14]	XRevan86	Yea, MinGW and Clang may be able to munch that.
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[13:14]	TR News	OpenVMS 9.2 hits production status for x86-64 - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/openvms_92/ Source: theregister
[13:14]	TR Bot	 OpenVMS 9.2 hits production status for x86-64 The Register
[13:15]	TR News	MOAR CLOWN. MOAR CLOWN. MOAR CLOWN. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/red_hat_openshift_cloud/
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Red Hat adds more Cloud Services to support OpenShift apps The Register
[13:15]	bnchs	matey: he has a microsoft employee personality
[13:15]	bnchs	where he shills microsoft
[13:16]	bnchs	in the other hand, he has a free as in freedom personality (?)
[13:16]	bnchs	but the former is dominant
[13:16]	TR News	"UNIX" is all caps https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/gm-seeks-leverage-open-source-unix-red-hat-partnership
[13:16]	TR Bot	Seeks to Leverage Open-Source Unix with Red Hat Partnership | designnews.com
[13:16]	bnchs	which is why he uses visual studio and MSVC
[13:17]	TR News	The future is BUZZWORDS.... ANNNNND "Sponsored Jobs". Enjoy your dish of webspam... this is what WWW has been reduced to https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/10/is-the-future-of-work-hybrid/
[13:17]	TR Bot	the future of work hybrid? | VentureBeat
[13:18]	TR News	More centralised, more surveillance, more downtime, far more crappy https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/business_comms_swzd/
[13:18]	TR Bot	 Slack and Teams replacing email for business comms The Register
[13:19]	bnchs	"Raspberry Pi Debugging with Visual Studio"
[13:19]	bnchs	mmmmmmmmmmmm
[13:19]	bnchs	just what i NEEDED
[13:19]	TR News	E-mail is decentralised, cross-platform, and can support E2EE. The "Alternatives" tend to be utter crap shoehorned into organisations by compromising a kakistocracy that runs them. Bribes help, too.
[13:20]	TR News	"Source: This news is originally published by hackaday" and watch what they did to the headline!!! https://technologytimes.pk/2022/05/15/nvidia-releases-drivers-with-openness-flavor/
[13:20]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA RELEASES DRIVERS WITH OPENNESS - Technology Times
[13:20]	bnchs	wtf is this headline
[13:21]	bnchs	drivers with openness
[13:21]	schestowitz-TR	nvidia releases salad with dressing
[13:21]		*XRevan86 checks if this is a translation.
[13:21]	XRevan86	"Of course, theres nuance." <- Oh, people of culture.
[13:21]	TR News	WWW 20 years ago still had some class.
[13:23]	XRevan86	> No relies as much on binary blob code as this one, and yet only semi-ironically, its not that far from where it could technically get RYF-certified. Its just that the objectionable binary blobs are now firmware instead of software.
[13:23]	bnchs	what?
[13:23]	TR News	Sounds like they will use their VC to prop up -- pardon the pun -- Pyramid Schemes (many companies are just that; they attract shareholders based on lies, defrauding them with massively inflated valuations) https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/pyramid_analytics_vc_funding/
[13:23]	TR Bot	 Pyramid Analytics gets $120m VC funding The Register
[13:23]	XRevan86	I think it's safe to say this is not native English speech.
[13:23]	TR News	Hang on a sec. Gulag was founded by a Russian. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/google_blocks_paid_apps_from/
[13:23]	TR Bot	 Google blocks paid apps from Play Store in Russia The Register
[13:25]	XRevan86	Oh, actually, the original text is different.
[13:25]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "The backdoor Windows malware, dubbed DCRat or DarkCrystal RAT, was released in 2018" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/budgetfriendly_dcrat_malware/
[13:25]	TR Bot	 It costs $7 to rent DCRat malware to backdoor your network The Register
[13:25]	XRevan86	> No driver relies as much on binary blob code as this one
[13:26]	TR News	If you outsource to CLOWN computing, that's immediately, an instantaneous security breach https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/10/india_infosec_rules_criticised/
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Industry resists India's data breach reporting requirements The Register
[13:26]	XRevan86	Also it's written by Arsenijs Piugins who appears to be the same person who made "ZeroPhone".
[13:26]	XRevan86	So \_()_/
[13:27]	TR News	How about a more constructive approach like banning Windows and other back-doored software? https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/biden_signs_cybercrime_tracking_bill/
[13:27]	TR Bot	 Biden signs cybercrime tracking bill into law The Register
[13:28]	matey	<bnchs> in the other hand, he has a free as in freedom personality (?) <- i dont think he does
[13:28]	bnchs	yeah i don't think
[13:28]	bnchs	it's gone
[13:29]	TR News	Equating mass surveillance and violation of human rights with "innovation" https://www.nber.org/papers/w30028
[13:29]	TR Bot	 GDPR and the Lost Generation of Innovative Apps | NBER
[13:29]	bnchs	or he never had one
[13:29]	matey	when someone has a microsoft personality, but a free software personality
[13:29]	matey	thats what open source is
[13:29]	matey	its fake freedom designed to co-opt and take over
[13:29]	TR News	Openwashing of a truly sinister and manipulative entity https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/05/bluesky_update/
[13:29]	TR Bot	 What Twitter's open-source arm has been working on The Register
[13:30]	matey	microsoft had to tweak itself to use the same old tactics against competitors when the competitor was free software
[13:30]	matey	thats what the halloween documents were about
[13:30]	matey	everyone should have a look at those, it explains what theyre doing today
[13:30]	matey	and what theyve done
[13:30]	matey	and what dave plumber is doing
[13:31]	TR News	Companies that do not need to fake their market value? https://www.sec.gov/hfcaa https://ir.jd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/jdcom-updates-status-under-holding-foreign-companies-accountable
[13:31]	bnchs	yes like
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act (HFCAA)
[13:31]	TR Bot	 JD.com Updates the Status under Holding Foreign Companies Accountable Act | JD.Com, Inc.
[13:31]	bnchs	dave plummer building the linux kernel
[13:31]	bnchs	IN WSL
[13:32]	TR News	Twitter does even worse things than that, like handing over your 'private' messages https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/weibo_location_services_default/
[13:32]	TR Bot	 China's Weibo tweaks policy to reveal user location data The Register
[13:32]	matey	 <bnchs> dave plummer building the linux kernel <bnchs> IN WSL https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FfvwH93SNUI
[13:32]	TR Bot	 Why Not - Invidious
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[13:32]	bnchs	all of his videos involve microsoft products
[13:33]	bnchs	even though he is a former microsoft programmer
[13:33]	bnchs	he never left microsoft
[13:34]	psydruid	dave plumber
[13:34]	psydruid	mario plumber
[13:34]	psydruid	luigi plumber
[13:34]	matey	micro brothers
[13:34]	bnchs	dave plummer, same guy who got sued for making malware
[13:34]	bnchs	who now makes a youtube channel
[13:34]	bnchs	kinda ironic
[13:35]	TR News	We need China more than China needs us https://www.europeanchamber.com.cn/en/press-releases/3431/china_s_covid_19_policy_and_russia_s_war_in_ukraine_cause_severe_disruptions_to_european_business_in_china
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Chinas COVID-19 policy and Russias war in Ukraine cause severe disruptions to European business in China
[13:36]	TR News	Tobias Mann at El Reg does promotional puff pieces instead of journalism. Fairly new in the team, should do a lot better.
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[13:37]	TR News	Intel is floundering and now blames COVID-19. Even before that Intel was repelling and driving away its valuable staff. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[13:37]	TR Bot	 Intel leaks - Techrights
[13:38]	TR News	Top 10 Best Linux Distributions in 2022 For Everyone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164873
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Top 10 Best Linux Distributions in 2022 For Everyone | Tux Machines
[13:40]	TR News	Proprietary software https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/google_docs_crash/ use LibreOffice of similar...
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Google Docs crashed when fed 'And. And. And. And. And.' The Register
[13:40]	TR News	Merely a slap on the wrist, so it still pays off to lie https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/07/ftc_frontier_internet/
[13:40]	TR Bot	 FTC says Frontier lied about internet speeds, settles case The Register
[13:42]	bnchs	https://medium.com/@500Miles/where-former-microsoft-employees-work-now-and-why-that-matters-9d411d5bd1d4
[13:42]	TR Bot	former Microsoft employees work now (and why that matters) | by 500 Miles | Medium
[13:42]	bnchs	microsoft shill article
[13:42]	TR News	Seriously??? Comparing pandemic lock-downs to the following year? To make exaggerated, optimistic claims? https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/09/infineon/
[13:42]	TR Bot	 Infineon more than doubles profit as chip crunch continues The Register
[13:43]	matey	microshill
[13:43]	TR News	Tesla sues OWN stuff. Elon Musk: FREE SPEECH!!! (After falsely accusing a whistleblower of being a terrorist) https://regmedia.co.uk/2022/05/09/tesla_v_yatskov_complaint.pdf
[13:44]	bnchs	dave plummer may have left microsoft
[13:44]	bnchs	but microsoft has never left him
[13:45]	TR News	kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git - Netdev Group's -next networking tree https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/log/?qt=grep&q=sfc Source: git
[13:45]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git - Netdev Group's -next networking tree
[13:45]	TR News	Make Intel DG2 L1 acceptable latency unlimited https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/helgaas/pci.git/commit/?h=next&id=03038d84ace72678a9944524508f218a00377dc0
[13:45]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/helgaas/pci.git - PCI development
[13:46]	TR News	[PATCH 0/4] Mitigate inconsistent NUMA imbalance behaviour - Mel Gorman https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511143038.4620-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net/ Source: techsingularity
[13:46]	TR Bot	 [PATCH 0/4] Mitigate inconsistent NUMA imbalance behaviour - Mel Gorman
[13:47]	TR News	easy.sfs recompress with LZ4_HC https://bkhome.org/news/202205/easysfs-recompress-with-lz4hc.html
[13:47]	TR Bot	 easy.sfs recompress with LZ4_HC
[13:50]	schestowitz-TR	the former softer
[13:50]	schestowitz-TR	or ex softer
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	has scare quoter in ex or former
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	even after they live they maintain the same religion
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	*leave
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	and same skillset
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	so they push microsoft crap into anything they see
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	because that's what they know
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	and 'former' friends/colleagues know
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	they need a re-education camp
[13:51]	schestowitz-TR	not like china's
[13:52]	schestowitz-TR	something less aggressive
[13:52]	schestowitz-TR	WSL is maybe seen as "way out for them"
[13:52]	schestowitz-TR	but
[13:52]	schestowitz-TR	WSL is an attack on us
[13:52]	schestowitz-TR	tell them to use virtual box
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR	some people from microsot did manage to escape the religio
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR	but those escapeesa re rare
[13:53]	schestowitz-TR	there is subtle "apostasy"
[13:53]	psydruid	something less aggressive like a brain transplant
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[14:01]	schestowitz-TR	a WHAT transplant?
[14:02]	schestowitz	game started https://matchday.mancity.com/fixtures/first-team/2021/west-ham-united-v-manchester-city/
[14:02]	TR Bot	 Mancity - Official Club Website
[14:05]	TR News	Scan Container Images for Vulnerabilities with Grype - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/scan-container-images-for-vulnerabilities-with-grype/ "Grype, an open source package managed by security company Anchore, is a vulnerability scanner for both images and filesystems."
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Scan Container Images for Vulnerabilities with Grype The New Stack
[14:05]	TR News	How to Install Nginx, MariaDB, and PHP (LEMP) on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-nginx-mariadb-php-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
[14:05]	TR Bot	 How to Install Nginx, MariaDB, and PHP (LEMP) on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[14:06]	TR News	Proprietary leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164874
[14:06]	TR Bot	 Proprietary leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:22]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ESVjzf4FzyU
[14:22]	TR Bot	 IT Crowd Football Match - Invidious
[14:33]	XRevan86	https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-15/ukraine-latest-nato-has-frank-talks-with-turkey-on-accession
[14:33]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[14:35]	bnchs	are you a robot?
[14:35]	bnchs	come on are you a BOT?
[14:35]	SomeH4x0r	usermode +B
[14:35]	XRevan86	TechrightsBot-tr is actually a robot.
[14:35]	XRevan86	No argument there.
[14:39]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bAfGSEVCCY4
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Best IT Crowd Bloopers - Invidious
[14:40]	bnchs	well understandable
[14:44]	TR News	Software Patents: "The '208 and 705 patents generally relate to systems using wireless transmission of security code information" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/12/4000-for-cpc-patent-technologies-208-705-prior-art
[14:44]	TR Bot	 $4,000 for CPC Patent Technologies '208 & '705 prior art Unified Patents
[14:45]	TR News	Software Patents: "The '039 patent is generally related to a biometric security card device." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/12/2000-for-cpc-patent-technologies-039-prior-art
[14:45]	TR Bot	 $2,000 for CPC Patent Technologies '039 prior art Unified Patents
[14:47]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LUHxBF5FKjI
[14:47]	TR Bot	 I Am Your Robot (Remastered 2003) - Invidious
[14:50]	TR News	Swatting fake patents is a decent business plan: "Unified Patents Portal now includes foreign opposition data with access to the dockets. At the current moment the data covers the United Kingdom, Germany, European Patent Office, and Japan." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/10/foreign-opposition-data-now-in-portal
[14:50]	TR Bot	 Worlds most comprehensive Opposition data now available Unified Patents
[14:51]	TR News	Precedential No. 13: TTAB Reverses Disclaimer Requriement of "KID" in two Lego Marks Found to be Unitary http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2022/05/precedential-no-13-ttab-reverses.html
[14:51]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: Precedential No. 13: TTAB Reverses Disclaimer Requirement of "KID" in two Lego Marks Found to be Unitary
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[15:42]	TR News	The Latest Propaganda Tactics of Team UPC: Pretending Unified Patent Court Already Exists and Unitary Patents Are Default When If Fact None Even Exists | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/lies-that-threaten-the-eu/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/lies-that-threaten-the-eu/
[15:42]	TR Bot	 The Latest Propaganda Tactics of Team UPC: Pretending Unified Patent Court Already Exists and Unitary Patents Are Default When If Fact None Even Exists | Techrights
[15:52]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/dontletthesungodownonmewasoriginallycalledpleaseletyoursongodownonmebeforesomeonetoldeltonjohnthatitwasntkosher.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-dontletthesungodownonmewasoriginallycalledpleaseletyoursongodownonmebeforesomeonetoldeltonjohnthatitwasntkosher#comic )
[15:52]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[15:59]	TR News	 [Meme] Milan is a Suburb in London | Gemini address: [Meme] Milan is a Suburb in London
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[16:06]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cgV8q0rwUzs
[16:06]	TR Bot	 KhTZ: Ukraine's Most Dangerous Hood - Invidious
[16:07]	matey	yeah i always thought elton john and george michael singing a song with the words "go down on me" was a bit on the nose
[16:07]	TR News	Live Raizo 13.22.05.14 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/
[16:07]	TR Bot	Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin download | SourceForge.net
[16:07]	matey	and maybe the rest of the face as well
[16:07]	TR News	[Meme] Milan is a Suburb in London | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/milan-meme/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/milan-meme/
[16:07]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Milan is a Suburb in London | Techrights
[16:08]	matey	theyre wonderful musicians
[16:08]	matey	i mean in the uk they have pantomime which is full of double entendres like that,
[16:09]	matey	the question is
[16:09]	matey	can they sing it with a straight face?
[16:09]	matey	no wait
[16:10]	matey	i mean elton john has a sense of humour about it, but you have to get him on a good day
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[16:11]	matey	gay men had a huge influence on my taste in music in the 90s
[16:11]	matey	thats sort of a long story
[16:11]	matey	then again to be fair, gay men had a huge influence on a lot of peoples taste in music in the 90s
[16:12]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dGw3w_njQ4g
[16:12]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dGw3w_njQ4g )
[16:13]	matey	couldnt tell you about the preferences of any of them
[16:13]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
[16:13]	TR Bot	 Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby (Official Music Video) - Invidious
[16:14]	matey	"are you gay?" "no, im English"-- austin powers
[16:15]	matey	/me smiles as youtubes bullshit region bullshit... (shhhhh)
[16:15]	matey	/me plays it anyway
[16:16]	matey	i dont understand this video at all
[16:16]	matey	the one they did in the studio is way better
[16:17]	matey	this one looks like an advert (for fuck knows what)
[16:17]	matey	Levi's
[16:17]	matey	Still the best
[16:18]	matey	Coca Cola-- you can get it here but no one drinks it
[16:23]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=42DzIDtMJlY
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Could You Pass The Russian Gopnik Test?! - Invidious
[16:25]	activelow	nice, the sixel support with w3m browser within tmux(patched) is rather good
[16:25]	matey	"do you have sunflower seeds" XD
[16:26]	activelow	got a baseline to test dvtm-sixel support agains
[16:26]	activelow	i mean, if i chose tmux instead of dvtm then i already got everything needed to do scientific work, within terminal _only_
[16:28]	activelow	almost all issues solved: dvtm session de/re-attach accross common different terminal types, session-lock timeout and notification, terminal capabilities fixed, vim is working with TERM=linux-dvtm in both X11 and on framebuffer console
[16:29]	matey	this has got to be the silliest one hes ever made
[16:29]	XRevan86	Oh boy this is surreal.
[16:30]	XRevan86	" , " <- Uh
[16:30]	matey	you couldnt translate that could you
[16:31]	matey	no worries if you cant
[16:31]	matey	(or shouldnt)
[16:31]	XRevan86	"the soldiers think that ye have a good butt"
[16:32]	XRevan86	But the word he used is more informal, and that made it weird.
[16:32]	matey	hes english of course
[16:32]	bnchs	aren't russian soldiers gay?
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[16:32]	matey	"you must steal peoples phones or else you wont have enough money for kvas"
[16:32]	XRevan86	These are Belarusian.
[16:33]	XRevan86	I didn't catch the moment when gopnicks exchanged Jaguar for kvass.
[16:34]	matey	well i think hes having fun, hes teaching a youtube to mug people
[16:34]	matey	youtuber
[16:34]	matey	now hes bumming cigarettes :)
[16:34]	XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_(beverage) "has a reputation for being often abused by gopniki delinquents"
[16:34]	TR Bot	 Jaguar (beverage) - Wikipedia
[16:35]	SomeH4x0r	Skywave: ^ "gopniki" keyword ping
[16:35]	activelow	a minor one remaining, dvtm box-drawing character output with rxvt-2.7 (non-unicode/non-fontconfig) is buggy, otherwise LANG=C terminals are ok with it
[16:35]	activelow	i want to ensure, non-unicode terminals remain intact
[16:36]	activelow	and reminder, the dmux desktop required 32MiB RAM (with considerable headroom remaining to crunch this down further)
[16:36]	matey	i used to know a girl from portugal who was exactly like this in practically every way
[16:37]	matey	we went to a birthday party, it was a long walk there
[16:37]	matey	she stole a flower from nearly every house we passed
[16:37]	matey	then gave them all to the person whose birthday it was
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[16:47]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/15/three-more-conscription-offices-set-afire-in-russia-news "Three more conscription offices set afire in Russia"
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[16:54]	activelow	the relevance of a powerful terminal multiplexer with graphics support is enormous
[16:54]	activelow	given the fact, computers main purpose was scientific work
[16:55]	activelow	and tiny embedded systems supporting most workflows then
[16:55]	activelow	without the need for any typical GUI desktop (gnome,kde,windows etc), without the need for a spyder-ide type software package
[16:57]	activelow	w3m+sixel to navigate www, gnuplot to generate plots from data, TeX authoring... there is even some ffmpeg-sixel support for animated visuals
[16:57]	activelow	within 64MiB RAM min requirements currently
[16:58]	activelow	it is free software, opensource; requires no special hardware support (GPU, cuda, opencl), vendor independent
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 367.18
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[17:01]	activelow	too tired currently, to disect the rebased sixel patch against tmux-3.1, it is only a few lines of code
[17:01]	activelow	however, terminal capabilities support is tricky, and i am tired
[17:02]	activelow	outside x11 i intend to place dvtm on top of yaft framebuffer terminal emulator
[17:03]	activelow	and the dmux desktop environment, which is how i name it, shall support x11/suckless-term, maybe x11/rxvt(with legacy graphics support available), linux-terminal(without graphics then), linux-yaft with graphics
[17:04]	activelow	and of cause, x11/xterm which supports it if compiled with graphics support
[17:04]	activelow	meaning, with ssh a remote dmux-session can be attached with a sufficient choice of terminal emulators
[17:19]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164875
[17:19]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[17:25]	MinceR	(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-13-22-6.jpg
[17:52]	matey	[29~
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	barely legal
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[18:18]	bnchs	matey: what are you doing
[18:18]	matey	bnchs: typing on a keyboard
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[18:26]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[18:35]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple FileMaker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164876
[18:35]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple FileMaker | Tux Machines
[18:35]	TR News	6 Practical and Real-World Applications of Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164877
[18:35]	TR Bot	 6 Practical and Real-World Applications of Linux | Tux Machines
[18:35]	TR News	Chromebooks are the perfect place to teach yourself about Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164878
[18:35]	TR Bot	 Chromebooks are the perfect place to teach yourself about Linux | Tux Machines
[18:36]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164879
[18:36]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:36]	TR News	2022-05-15 Untitled webcomic: gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/comic/untitled.png
[18:37]	TR News	Loopy links gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-05-15_Loopy_links.gmi
[18:38]	TR News	"I've had similar thoughts, I mean, the immediate of 'social' media, designed for engagement has a lot of problems." gemini://text.eapl.mx/re-the-dissappearence-of-sincere-conversations
[18:40]	TR News	"I'd say that the traditional five senses are more like classes of things than distinct things." gemini://the-brannons.com/senses/
[18:56]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/ididitguysimadeastonerjoke.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-ididitguysimadeastonerjoke#comic )
[18:56]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[18:57]	TR News	Trying out Edge Impulse machine learning platform on XIAO BLE Sense board - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/15/trying-out-edge-impulse-machine-learning-platform-on-xiao-ble-sense-board/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
[18:57]	TR Bot	 Trying out Edge Impulse machine learning platform on XIAO BLE Sense board - CNX Software
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[18:57]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR	0/
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR	hi kiki
[18:59]	TR News	Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (19/2022): OpenSUSE on Volla Phone, Phone calls on Nemo Mobile with a caveat, and another Modem Firmware release! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164880
[18:59]	TR Bot	 Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (19/2022): OpenSUSE on Volla Phone, Phone calls on Nemo Mobile with a caveat, and another Modem Firmware release! | Tux Machines
[18:59]	kiki	hi
● May 15
[19:00]	kiki	anyone using wayland and sway ?
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[19:04]	bnchs	no
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	the developers of wayland and sway
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	to identify bugs :-)
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[19:06]	bnchs	i use Xorg, and xfce
[19:06]	DaemonFC	Wayland is now ready to be used daily.
[19:06]	DaemonFC	Most of the problems previously were performance issues regarding XWayland.
[19:06]	DaemonFC	Many of those went away with Intel's rewritten driver that uses Gallium3d.
[19:07]	DaemonFC	There's just not much difference between running even a fairly demanding game on X11 and Wayland in Wine anymore, so I switched back to the Wayland session.
[19:07]	DaemonFC	We're talking less than half a percentage point in fps either way, so if there is a difference it's indiscernible now.
[19:08]	DaemonFC	It was like 10-15% in favor of X11, so I just used it all the time back then.
[19:08]	kiki	so wayland has intel binary blobs ?
[19:09]	DaemonFC	No, the Intel driver does though. The firmware component.
[19:10]	MinceR	being unable to capture or warp the pointer is going to break some games, though
[19:10]	MinceR	especially when running in a window or a multihead setup
[19:10]	DaemonFC	But so does AMD. Nouveau is utter crap and even after Nvidia's new "open source" kernel module, you will still barely have any 3d performance from Nouveau, if it works at all.
[19:10]	MinceR	but i'm sure poettering doesn't play such games
[19:10]	DaemonFC	GNOME has a built in screen capture program now.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	It's part of the screenshot tool that's been merged into the shell. It is no longer a separate application.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	It dumps the screen recording out to a WebM file using AV1.
[19:12]	MinceR	is that the "modularity" i hear so much about?
[19:12]	MinceR	also, i was talking about capturing the pointer, not capturing the screen
[19:13]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/14/sheriffs-office-shares-story-of-complex-scam-that-nearly-cost-lake-county-resident-20000/
[19:13]	TR Bot	 Sheriff's office shares story of 'complex scam' that nearly cost Lake County resident $20,000
[19:14]	DaemonFC	My favorite was when the guy on YouTube let a scammer into a remote desktop that was really Windows 95 running in VirtualBox.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	The scammer didn't realize what Windows 95 was and mostly figured his way around it, but then when he started typing commands, most of it didn't work, with the OS saying that it couldn't find that program.
[19:16]	DaemonFC	His first hint should have been that the GUI was clean, there was one obvious way to do things, and when you clicked on something, nothing unexpected happened.
[19:16]	DaemonFC	Windows hasn't worked like that in over 25 years now, so there's your first clue something is wrong.
[19:18]	DaemonFC	Microsoft doesn't do any usability studies. They basically look at how the Mac and Chromebook GUIs work, and then copy off of that, introducing ads, Bing, and Edge references. The OS hardly works at all on affordable hardware. They fired the QA team a long time ago and switched to "telemetry".
[19:18]	DaemonFC	They actually used to have 5,000 product testers on salary to make sure the software basically worked before it went out.
[19:19]	DaemonFC	They would have found most of the problems that Windows 11 had, and stopped it from going out until those were fixed.
[19:19]	DaemonFC	But "early adopters" get hit with most of the really weird stuff now, and their computer just reports back what happened to them.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	I switched to StarOffice early on due to Office 97 requiring me to install Internet Explorer. It would assume that you had it already on Windows 98, and of course I didn't, and then when the rendering engine wasn't there, half the Office programs didn't work.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	So I found a boxed set of StarOffice at Staples. When the computer rang it up for one penny, I hurried up and bought it and started doing all of my homework assignments in that.
[19:23]	TR News	Patent Granting at the EPO Has Collapsed by 24% Owing to Much-Needed Industrial Action | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/epo-industrial-action/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/epo-industrial-action/
[19:23]	TR Bot	 Patent Granting at the EPO Has Collapsed by 24% Owing to Much-Needed Industrial Action | Techrights
[19:23]	DaemonFC	IE is still in Windows 11, I understand.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	They're burying it so that you can't open it directly, but the entire thing is still there continuing to rot.
[19:26]	TR News	[Meme] Common Sense at EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/lust-for-fees/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/lust-for-fees/
[19:26]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Common Sense at EPO | Techrights
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[19:45]	activelow	DaemonFC> But so does AMD. Nouveau is utter crap <- no, it isn't any better or worse than any other "GPU" within the DRM subsystem
[19:48]	DaemonFC	Work on Nouveau seems to have mostly stopped since the IBM merger with Red Hat.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	Even very basic support for new GPUs takes forever, and the 3d engine never works right.
[19:48]	activelow	last time i tried nouveau, it was stable and fast, with a GT640 known to be supported by it
[19:50]	activelow	however, the entire DRM subsystem is flawed
[19:52]	activelow	kernel exposes /dev/fb0 on top of drm/kms subsystem at least, and within userspace there is that many reasosn to ditch libdrm and mesa entirely, it is moot to discuss
[19:52]	activelow	if you accept non-free commercial rubbish then go for it, libdrm, mesa, opencl etc...
[19:54]	activelow	on kernel-side, without DRM/KMS there isn't framebuffer support remaining for recent GPU, it is only some very old models which provide /dev/fb0 without drm/kms inside kernel
[19:54]	activelow	another explanation, why kernel size blew up, because it isn't possible to remove DRM (direct rendering manager) from kernel without loosing almost all GPU support
[19:56]	activelow	one argument for drm/kms was concurrent access to /dev/fb0, yet i am absolutely sure libsdl1 and libsdl2 for example can vt-switch without drm/kms
[19:59]	activelow	so, although i am using /dev/fb0 fbcon together with libsdl1 for example, i cannot remove drm from kernel
[19:59]	activelow	and meanwhile drm remains, i am not willing to merge any libdrm related, one reason being among many others the buildsystem of libdrm is cluttered with python/meson
● May 15
[20:01]	activelow	on ARM u-boot initializes hdmi output, and with X86 it is vesa vga bios, and i am using vesafb on x86 which allows mode-switching during system boot
[20:02]	activelow	which is worth another rant, switching to FullHD with vesafb
[20:03]	kiki	activelow > do you have any recommendations ?
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[20:10]	TR News	 Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting Out in Public! That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable | Gemini address: Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting Out in Public! That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable
[20:11]	TR News	Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting - Out in Public! - That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/team-battistelli-antagonising-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/team-battistelli-antagonising-upc/
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting Out in Public! That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable | Techrights
[20:11]	TR News	Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting - Out in Public! - That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/team-battistelli-antagonising-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/team-battistelli-antagonising-upc/
[20:13]	TR News	[Meme] Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Cannot Be Reconciled With the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/meme-unitary-patent-and-unified-patent-court-upc-cannot-be-reconciled-with-the-law/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/meme-unitary-patent-and-unified-patent-court-upc-cannot-be-reconciled-with-the-law/
[20:13]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Cannot Be Reconciled With the Law | Techrights
[20:14]	activelow	kiki: recommendations for what?
[20:17]	kiki	Hardware 
[20:18]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164881
[20:18]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[20:18]	kiki	esp regarding laptops 
[20:18]	kiki	or notebooks 
[20:19]	activelow	severe issues with all of them; wouldn't recommend any.
[20:19]	kiki	do you recommend  desktops ?
[20:20]	activelow	raspberry pi seems a least concerning choice among the commonly available options
[20:20]	kiki	I am tired looking for a pure libre setup. 
[20:20]	activelow	i prefer another ARM SBC vendor, because there is some firmware issue with raspberry which i don't accept, if you're not concerned about the VC4 firmware then raspberry pi
[20:21]	kiki	hah , that's what i thought too . It serves good for personnel computing . 
[20:21]	kiki	i meant raspberry
[20:22]	kiki	which is the other ARM ?
[20:22]	activelow	there is some niche vendors for rockchip ARM and allwinner ARM boards, including some laptop with an allwinner chip... which isn't available
[20:23]	activelow	decide for yourself, armbian documents which systems they support, only be aware support may be stuck with some armbian kernel version
[20:23]	kiki	thank you , i will check that out .
[20:29]	XRevan86	https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-14/eu-drafts-plan-for-buying-russian-gas-without-breaking-sanctions cc: activelow
[20:29]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[20:30]	XRevan86	activelow: Ye can see that when I outlined how all this works I didn't lie to you.
[20:31]	MinceR	raspberry pi runs MICROS~1 malware on its GPU
[20:41]	activelow	XRevan86: the rublefication was reported many weeks ago in germany; there _never_ was plans to sanction russian oil and gas imports, never
[20:42]	activelow	what was cut-off recently, is the ukrainian pipeline controlled by the comedian from kiev
[20:43]	XRevan86	activelow: More importantly, this outlines the procedure.
[20:43]	XRevan86	And that the EU doesn't really care about it.
[20:44]	XRevan86	So as I said to you earlier, the relation to rubles is nominal.
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[21:10]	TR News	Fudgie: Official Fedora Budgie Spin in the Works Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164882
[21:10]	TR Bot	 Fudgie: Official Fedora Budgie Spin in the Works | Tux Machines
[21:12]	TR News	As long as Italy is not the UK and London means London proper (not the French town called London) the UPCA is invalid and no matter how much Team UPC (and its puppets in EPO management) may plead, this whole system is bound to implode http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/milan-meme/
[21:12]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Milan is a Suburb in London | Techrights
[21:12]	TR News	8 years ago Benot Battistelli said that the UPC was imminent; now, after 4 years of Antnio Campinos, its still not here and Team UPC speculators say it wont happen this year, either http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/lies-that-threaten-the-eu/
[21:12]	TR Bot	 The Latest Propaganda Tactics of Team UPC: Pretending Unified Patent Court Already Exists and Unitary Patents Are Default When If Fact None Even Exists | Techrights
[21:12]	TR News	The European examiners who deal with patents prefer a system that works for science, for Europe, not for foreign megacorporations that amass millions of low-quality patents and weaponise these to discourage competition http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/lust-for-fees/
[21:12]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Common Sense at EPO | Techrights
[21:13]	TR News	Seeing that the EPOs management routinely violates the law and even the very legal basis of the EPOs existence (it is a monopoly in Europe; no body has the authority to compete against it), the EPOs examiners have embarked on a Work-to-Rule campaign http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/epo-industrial-action/
[21:13]	TR Bot	 Patent Granting at the EPO Has Collapsed by 24% Owing to Much-Needed Industrial Action | Techrights
[21:13]	TR News	Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC)? Impossible. But Team UPC counts on an endless torrent of fake news managing to convince you (and more importantly politicians) otherwise. http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/meme-unitary-patent-and-unified-patent-court-upc-cannot-be-reconciled-with-the-law/
[21:13]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court (UPC) Cannot Be Reconciled With the Law | Techrights
[21:13]	TR News	Daniel X. Thomas and other people who are too old to punish (consequences to their career profoundly minimised owing to seniority) are among those who push back against the Unitary Patent or Unified Patent Court (UPC) http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/team-battistelli-antagonising-upc/
[21:13]	TR Bot	 Even Team Battistelli is Sometimes Admitting Out in Public! That Unified Patent Court (UPC) is Neither Legal Nor Desirable | Techrights
[21:14]	TR News	Bluestar 5.17.7 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
[21:14]	TR Bot	download | SourceForge.net
[21:15]	TR News	Malware? With Easter eggs? That's like a fluffy animal with a sting. https://www.maketecheasier.com/windows10-easter-eggs-and-secrets/
[21:15]	TR Bot	 The Best Windows 10 and 11 Easter Eggs to Seek Out - Make Tech Easier
[21:16]	TR News	Slashdot posting Microsoft propaganda in its "Linux" section tonight, pointing to a Microsoft media mole at ZDNet. Slashdot is hopeless.
[21:24]	TR News	Linux Fanboy Reviews macOS: Feels OLD. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-KYbHJulEo8 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[21:24]	TR Bot	 Linux Fanboy Reviews macOS: Feels OLD. - Invidious
[21:24]	TR News	Top 7 Electron Apps For Windows, Mac and Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IB841O8Hakw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[21:24]	TR Bot	 Top 7 Electron Apps For Windows, Mac and Linux - Invidious
[21:25]	DaemonFC	I switched to Radeon and then to Intel over the Nvidia driver, finally.
[21:25]	TR News	"This is what inspired Wesley Gardner from element14 Presents to design a series of wheelchair modifications that can improve a persons mobility." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/15/motorize-a-manual-wheelchair-with-this-adaptable-electronic-system/
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Motorize a manual wheelchair with this adaptable electronic system | Arduino Blog
[21:25]	DaemonFC	A long time ago there was the argument that you couldn't run any games on Intel, Radeons were an even bigger mess than Nvidia (FGLRX for the Radeons), and there was just no other way to get good performance under *nix systems with your video accelerator.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	But the Radeon open source project and the Intel hardware continuing to improve changed that.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	Today, Nvidia is just a liability as far as wanting things to "just work" and while there is a performance angle, they're also proprietary, and if you use a laptop, it'll cost you twice as much power drain to improve your video performance just a little bit.
[21:27]	TR News	"GNU libiconv 1.17 is released." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10175
[21:27]	TR Bot	 libiconv - News: libiconv 1.17 released [Savannah]
[21:27]	DaemonFC	The Intel Iris Xe can comfortably handle multiple 4K displays and I don't even use it for that most of the time.
[21:28]	TR News	HP cowards or slaves of Microsoft. All the other OEMs adopted proper GNU/Linux as an option. HP helps Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/05/12/2442083/0/en/Z-by-HP-Powers-Today-s-Professionals-to-Create-without-Limitation.html
[21:28]	TR Bot	 Z by HP Powers Todays Professionals to Create without
[21:28]	DaemonFC	I game on it and it doesn't really have a hard time keeping up.
[21:29]	DaemonFC	So I don't understand how Nvidia would benefit me enough to be worth a proprietary driver with lousy hacks and workarounds, crashes, security problems that they don't care about fixing or maybe even put there on purpose.....
[21:29]	TR News	East European Free software dev now in Spain. "They say that Madrid is the city with the longest nights" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/15/europe-trip-journal-entry-12/
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Europe Trip Journal Entry 12: Positive Vibes and Negative Results vanitasvitae's blog
[21:30]	DaemonFC	There was a known critical security hole that they left open for over 2 years a while back and they said they knew about it and it was being exploited, but it would require a major rewrite of their driver to fix it, so they just kept on going.
[21:31]	TR News	[Old] Sailfish OS Tips & Tricks https://www.noureddine.org/articles/sailfish-os-tips-tricks
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Sailfish OS Tips & Tricks
[21:31]	DaemonFC	Even if they open sourced it today, it couldn't go into the kernel aside from the staging tree for years. It would almost certainly be THAT bad.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Not that there is much of a process anymore for QA in the Linux kernel.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	They merged a known bad NTFS driver from Paragon and then immediately, the alleged maintainer stopped responding to emails entirely, and now it's causing problems in the rest of the file system tree.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	It was a code dump. There is literally nobody maintaining this thing.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	And it didn't even take a month for that to happen.
[21:34]	TR News	PSA: Potential libstdc++ hang in std::filesystem::symlink_status gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/05-15-psa-potential-stdlibcpp-hang-filesystem.gmi
[21:35]	TR News	initials do not make for a pseudonym gemini://soviet.circumlunar.space/pjvm/log/000002-not-a-pseudonym.gmi
[21:36]	TR News	postmarketOS v21.12 Service Pack 5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164883
[21:36]	TR Bot	 postmarketOS v21.12 Service Pack 5 | Tux Machines
[21:38]	TR News	"The RetroPie is an operating system that enables your Raspberry Pi to be a retro-gaming machine so you can play retro games on the Raspberry Pi including the arcade and classic PC games." https://linuxhint.com/best-retropie-controllers-2022/ Amazon webspam it seems,
[21:38]	TR Bot	 Best RetroPie Controllers in 2022
[21:38]	TR News	Best Raspberry Pi for Gaming https://linuxhint.com/best-raspberry-pi-for-gaming/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 
[21:38]	TR Bot	 Best Raspberry Pi for Gaming
[21:42]	TR News	Videos: Electron, macOS, and OSU! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164884
[21:42]	TR Bot	 Videos: Electron, macOS, and OSU! | Tux Machines
[21:47]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2022/05/15/1099018706/mcconnell-says-the-senate-will-pass-the-largest-ukraine-aid-package-yet-on-wedne
[21:47]	TR Bot	 McConnell says Ukraine aid will pass the Senate on Wednesday : NPR
[21:48]	DaemonFC	The United States has now spent over $70 billion dollars on weapons packages and over $100 billion when you throw in humanitarian assistance too.
[21:48]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164885
[21:48]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	to the US homeless?
[21:49]	DaemonFC	There's almost no limit to public support for this.
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	oh, wait, no..
[21:49]	DaemonFC	Most people here don't like Putin very much.
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	giving aid to the American homeless does not help sell loads of weaopons
[21:49]	DaemonFC	The UK is giving them a bunch of weapons, and so is most of Europe.
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	your media teaches you to hate the poor too
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	and shame them
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	and blame them
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	for the system
[21:50]	DaemonFC	The Russians deserve worse than what they're getting right now, honestly.
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	it is a "defensive" move
[21:50]	DaemonFC	It's hard to feel sorry for people who try to annex a sovereign country that hasn't done anything to them and murder children and the elderly in the streets because they're losers who can't pick on someone their own size.
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	ukraine does not lob any bombs and missiles into russia
[21:50]	DaemonFC	So fuck Russia.
[21:51]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164886
[21:51]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More | Tux Machines
[21:51]	DaemonFC	Few countries are okay with what Russia does. The only support they got at the UN are failing Socialist and Communist countries that depend on Russian money.
[21:52]	DaemonFC	And even then it was like, 5 countries...small ones. Shitholes, at that.
[21:52]	DaemonFC	People look at the "debt crisis" going on in some South American countries and blame the US banks that loaned them money.
[21:53]	DaemonFC	If I ask a bank for a loan and don't pay them back, there are consequences.
[21:53]	DaemonFC	Why shouldn't there be consequences for Venezuela, or Argentina?
[21:53]	DaemonFC	They have a really shitty government and haven't done anything to push back against it, and as far as the US "sanctions", those aren't even half their problems.
[21:54]	DaemonFC	Their problems are government corruption, mostly.
[21:54]	DaemonFC	And you're starting to see some US states with similar policies going the same way.
[21:54]	DaemonFC	Illinois would have already defaulted on its debt had the Federal Reserve and the federal government not propped it up with "coronavirus money".
[21:55]	DaemonFC	But nothing the state has used 90% of this money on is related to COVID, at all, even indirectly.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	They borrow from a Fed bailout fund that technically any state could have dipped into, but only Illinois did because other states can get better terms in the private banking sector, or don't need the money because there's less corruption and more budget balancing going on, or at least they admit they require tax money to pay for what they want to do.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	Then they use the Fed money to pay off higher interest debt. The debt doesn't go away, it's just owed to the Central Bank at lower interest, and it puts the entire nation at risk for what Illinois does next, and we dodn't even need to wait very long to find that out.
[21:57]	DaemonFC	Because it proceeded to spend it all on vote buying for the upcoming election and corrupt public union contracts, and stuff, which puts them further into the hole.
[21:57]	DaemonFC	*didn't
[21:58]	DaemonFC	It's no wonder all of the illegals from Central and South America and Mexico come to Illinois.
[21:58]	DaemonFC	They'll recognize our political style immediately, having lived under Maduro and others.
[21:59]	DaemonFC	I'm absolutely, and obviously not against immigration. The problem is that our laws are incoherent about that.
[21:59]	TR News	Linux 5.17.8, 5.15.40, 5.10.116, 5.4.194, 4.19.243, 4.14.279, and 4.9.314 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164887
[21:59]	TR Bot	 Linux 5.17.8, 5.15.40, 5.10.116, 5.4.194, 4.19.243, 4.14.279, and 4.9.314 | Tux Machines
[21:59]	DaemonFC	We have people coming here illegally, gaming the system, not being punished at all for it, and even getting welfare.
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[22:00]	DaemonFC	While people who try to apply for benefits get dicked around by harsh green card laws. Very harsh. Too harsh.
[22:00]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Homelessness isn't making a melting pot all around its borders.
[22:01]	DaemonFC	The sooner we get rid of JB Pritzker the quicker we can begin to heal from this.
[22:01]	DaemonFC	All of a sudden with crime exploding due to his "justice reform" he's trying to act tough on crime right before the election with the "organized retail theft" law.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Shows you what their priority is. They're coming for people who steal Oakley sunglasses and making room by letting the murderers and rapists out.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Tough on crime....which bothers rich people.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	And if they deter any of that, it'll just lead to a spike in muggings and carjackings, which they barely seem to work at all.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	<XRevan86> schestowitz: Homelessness isn't making a melting pot all around its borders.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	Most of the homeless people in Lake County seem to be Mexicans.
[22:05]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164888
[22:05]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:05]	DaemonFC	They beg for change at traffic lights and occasionally get hit by cars.
[22:06]	TR News	Fedora, Red Hat, and IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164889
[22:06]	TR Bot	 Fedora, Red Hat, and IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:06]	TR News	OpenVMS 9.2 hits production status for x86-64 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164890
[22:06]	TR Bot	 OpenVMS 9.2 hits production status for x86-64 | Tux Machines
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	homlessness is not a race
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	you are just showing your bigotry
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	no wonder my sister can't wait to leave
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	the people in the US are not pleasant
[22:12]	DaemonFC	Portland.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	She went to Portland.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	No, they're not pleasant. They're Democrats. Lots of crime, taxes, etc. Too scared to leave your house because they're letting the criminals kill everyone out there.
[22:12]	schestowitz-TR	she should have gone where you are, right?
[22:13]	DaemonFC	Now there's a curfew in Chicago because of the shootings this week. I'm sure the murderers who violate the FOID law care about Lightfoot's stupid-ass curfew.
[22:13]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> she should have gone where you are, right?
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR	you are calling other countries "shitholes"
[22:13]	DaemonFC	Absolutely not! Although it's better than Portland.
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR	while going broke in yours 
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR	and much of the worst has a very negative view of the US
[22:13]	schestowitz-TR	except maybe a handful of countries
[22:13]	DaemonFC	Who cares?
[22:14]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, bbl
[22:14]	DaemonFC	When they have solutions for what's going on here, I'll care.
[22:14]	DaemonFC	They don't. They just "hate on the US" because it makes them feel better about all the bullshit going on in their own country, which they have also ruined.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	I'm sure it's popular to hate on the US in Hungary or Russia.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Very popular.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	Wouldn't ever go there, much less live there, but it's very popular to hate on people who have it better than you do.
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[22:15]	TR Bot	 Links 15/05/2022: GNU libiconv 1.17 | Techrights
[22:16]	DaemonFC	Paris is one of the most dangerous cities in the world.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	So they may not shoot you. Okay, have fun getting stabbed.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	They have terrorists there. The UK has terrorists. The London bus bombings.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	It's quite popular for people to hate the UK too, apparently.
[22:17]	DaemonFC	MinceR is right. Humans hate everything, live in Hell, ruin everything so they can make everyone else live in Hell, haven't improved a damned thing./
[22:18]	DaemonFC	When the government announces that it will solve a problem by taking your money it means grab your ankles.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Extreme poverty in the US went up with the "war on poverty", which the government still spends most of the non-defense budget on.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	It turns out that nobody actually takes Medicaid, yet it is somehow still a quarter of the state budget.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	People in Chicago with Medicaid cards are complaining that all the doctors who took Medicaid are not taking it, because the state tries to command healthcare prices, and the doctors respond by going "I'm not spending 30 minutes doing a wellness checkup on your kid for $4.".
[22:19]	DaemonFC	And they stop taking it.
[22:21]	DaemonFC	Here's how crazy Medicaid is.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	I have a budget for absolutely anything that goes wrong with the car, as long as I can find plenty of mechanics that go down from their usual rate of about $175 an hour to $20.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	It's like saying that.
[22:23]	DaemonFC	And all of these countries with free healthcare, anyone who speaks honestly tells you the government runs off with most of your money, runs the system poorly, and they can't get in for years.
[22:23]	DaemonFC	By which time they may be dead, so if they have any money at all, then on top of the taxes they pay for "free healthcare", they buy a plane ticket and also pay for the procedure to actually be done elsewhere.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	I can get on a website right now, and say "I need to see my doctor." and have an appointment that will not be more than 2 weeks from now. Maybe not even a week.
[22:25]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164891
[22:25]	DaemonFC	Because the government isn't ignoring the laws of economics entirely like they do in many countries and trying to pay the doctors nothing, so they all get their diploma and then flee the country to work in the US.
[22:25]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:25]	TR News	No Torvalds yet. Coming soon. https://lkml.org/lkml/last100/
[22:25]	TR Bot	 LKML: Headers for 100 newest messages
[22:25]	DaemonFC	When you hand something to the government, you get three guarantees. It will be done wrong, late, and over budget.
[22:26]	DaemonFC	Once you realize that, you will understand why everything is so fucked up.
[22:26]	DaemonFC	"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
[22:27]	DaemonFC	The states that try to do the most, in the US, are the worst places to live, in the US.
[22:28]	TR News	Getting started with Node-Red on Raspberry Pi https://linuxhint.com/getting-started-node-red-raspberry-pi/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 
[22:28]	TR Bot	 Getting started with Node-Red on Raspberry Pi
[22:28]	DaemonFC	You go somewhere where there's barely a government and they leave people alone and quite manipulating and picking your pocket, your standard of living goes up.
[22:29]	DaemonFC	The social contract in a place like Montana or Nevada is "If you break into my house or try to steal my car, the only thing you're getting is shot.".
[22:29]	DaemonFC	And so the crime is a lot lower.
[22:30]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Mallory (Archer): "Who's there? Well whoever you are, the only thing you're getting from me is holes!.....Uh, I mean I'm going to shoot you!"
[22:30]	DaemonFC	"I will not grill you a cheese!
[22:41]	TR News	"It's not often you need to mess with kernel parameters but when you do instead of using sysctl how about you try out systeroid instead" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v3q707TRIIs
[22:41]	TR Bot	 Systeroid: Best Way To Set Linux Kernel Parameters - Invidious
[22:41]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164892
[22:41]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[22:43]	TR News	Linux Foundation reduced the FOUNDER of LINUX into a weekly release manager and mascot. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pG5bC1Ac2dQ
[22:43]	TR Bot	 You won't believe what the creator of Linux (Linux Torvalds) does now! - Invidious
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[22:45]	TR News	FOSS Patents: Ericsson insists on proving Apple's infringement of three 5G standard-essential patents Apple itself once elected to challenge in Eastern District of Texas http://www.fosspatents.com/2022/05/ericsson-insists-on-proving-apples.html Source: fosspatents
[22:45]	TR Bot	 FOSS Patents: Ericsson insists on proving Apple's infringement of three 5G standard-essential patents Apple itself once elected to challenge in Eastern District of Texas
[22:47]	TR News	Patent maximalists like to cherry-pick cases where "obvious" (invalid) patents are upheld later; they try to 'scandalise' PTAB, still https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1185146/federal-circuit-reverses-ptab-decision-in-amgen-biosimilar-related-ipr-appeal
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Federal Circuit Reverses PTAB Decision In Amgen Biosimilar-Related IPR Appeal - Patent - United States
[22:48]	TR News	Typical marketing spam from Amy Sandys; when she does not disseminate disinformation she wants us to think one low-level worker changing job is actually important news. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/mathys-squire-hires-new-partner-from-hgf/
[22:48]	TR Bot	 Mathys & Squire hires new partner from HGF - JUVE Patent
[22:49]	TR News	There is no such thing as "Intellectual Property (IP) world" except in fiction. Sometimes they even refer to themselves as "community"!! A community... that charges $300 per hour? https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5566af0c-e524-4e20-829a-5b80be5f44c3
[22:49]	TR Bot	Global overview - Lexology
[22:50]	TR News	Patent extremists want computer-generated patent applications to be allowed. Insane! http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/11/only-humans-are-inventors-under-the-patents-act-but-for-how-long/
[22:50]	TR Bot	 Only Humans are Inventors Under the Patents Act, But For How Long? - Kluwer Patent Blog
[22:52]	TR News	"determination of whether or not a generic drug is covered by the originators patents is not open to the public." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/10/japan-problem-of-japans-patent-linkage-system-comes-to-the-surface-by-a-set-of-ip-high-court-decisions/ In a humane society, lives should always become before patents
[22:52]	TR Bot	 Japan: Problem of Japans patent linkage system comes to the surface by a set of IP High Court decisions - Kluwer Patent Blog
[22:53]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6jKlpsjn0UE
[22:53]	TR Bot	 Linus Torvalds said what NOW!? - Invidious
[22:53]	schestowitz	capital N
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[22:55]	XRevan86	Not fun
[22:55]	XRevan86	what is this hair style?
[22:55]	XRevan86	I'm not really into caring for hair styles but this is something.
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[23:01]	schestowitz-TR	need advice:
[23:01]	schestowitz-TR	famous saying
[23:01]	schestowitz-TR	about:
[23:02]	schestowitz-TR	a person's appearance as sign of health
[23:03]	XRevan86	"tougher than they look"? (:
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	I know that saying
[23:03]	schestowitz-TR	what does it mean though re health?
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	it's something you say about people and other animals
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	but not in reference to age
[23:04]	XRevan86	Toughness is kind of health-related.
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	but strength
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	the context here is Torvalds
[23:04]	schestowitz-TR	I show rapid aging
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[23:15]	XRevan86	schestowitz: "time has not been very kind to them"?
[23:15]	schestowitz-TR	ah
[23:15]	schestowitz-TR	that's a good one
[23:17]	schestowitz	XRevan86: http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/half-a-decade-torvalds/
[23:17]	TR Bot	 What a Difference Half a Decade Makes (When Linux Foundation is Having Fun) | Techrights
[23:18]	XRevan86	He is just 52
[23:19]	XRevan86	he does look older than his age
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	he looked OK at 48
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	see top photo
[23:19]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU
[23:19]	TR Bot	https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	his father looks about his age, a tad older
[23:19]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | Discord: The Most Evil Business In The World - Invidious
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	Nils
[23:19]	schestowitz-TR	VERY active as a politician this year
[23:23]	TR News	What a Difference Half a Decade Makes (When Linux Foundation is Having Fun) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/half-a-decade-torvalds/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/half-a-decade-torvalds/
[23:32]	TR News	Fedora: "There is an ongoing outage of our main IAD2 datacenter. All servers may be down. We are working on fixing things. This outage is over and everything should be back online." https://status.fedoraproject.org/2022-05-15-iad2-outage.html
[23:32]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://status.fedoraproject.org/2022-05-15-iad2-outage.html )
[23:41]	DaemonFC	https://www.instructables.com/How-to-Make-a-Laundry-Water-Recycler-Gray-Water-S/
[23:41]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[23:41]	DaemonFC	The idea to use laundry rinse water for the next wash cycle is patented. LOL
[23:42]	DaemonFC	I guess someone should sue me in East Texas for holding the hose over a cheap bucket and then pouring the five gallons I got back into the drum for the next load.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	Now I'm using a mixture of last cycle's rinse water and dehumidifier gray water in my wash cycle.
[23:44]	DaemonFC	You can't use it for much, but it's still clean enough to go through and wash a load of clothes.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I about had a stroke when I saw what Fedders wanted for a replacement air conditioner intake filter.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	They wanted $30 plus shipping for one of those! So I could fix my landlord's air conditioner. So I just went to Walmart and bought one for 89 cents and cut it to fit the intake.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	They're giving away free cans of Microban at Walmart for a promotion so I have like 6 big cans because I pick up groceries and things there constantly.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	I looked on the can and it says it kills mold and fungus and stops them from coming back for a while. I hosed down the bathroom walls (I bleached them the other day.) and let it sit there for a while before whiping them down.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Hopefully with the dehumidifier keeping things under control and most of the mold dead from me going in there and using chemicals on it, it won't be a problem again.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	I actually had to go in there and bleach the walls, and then some spots were so bad I had to go back in with a melamine sponge and carefully sand down the mold, then bleach, then sand, bleach.....
[23:49]	DaemonFC	It's looking pretty good again.
[23:52]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHGJplfaY
[23:52]	TR Bot	https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=WnOHGJplfaY
[23:52]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | Why Olga can't work - Invidious
[23:54]	TR News	Audio: Mark Shuttleworth Targeted Young Males and With Sexy Pictures | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/jeff-waugh-on-mark-shuttleworth/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/15/jeff-waugh-on-mark-shuttleworth/
[23:54]	TR Bot	 Audio: Mark Shuttleworth Targeted Young Males and With Sexy Pictures | Techrights
[23:57]	TR News	Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppArmadillo 0.11.1.1.0 on CRAN: Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/05/15#rcpparmadillo_0.11.1.1.0
[23:57]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box