●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 15, 2021 ●● ● Aug 15 [00:00] kingoffrance snowden leaks said israel wasnt sharing enough with u.s. [00:00] kingoffrance so, same today i guess [00:00] activelow USA/five-eyes are imposing mass surveillance globally [00:02] activelow Germany is not a member of "five-eyes", and mass surveillance violates german constitution [00:02] activelow besides, german agencies themselves insist on mass surveillance too [00:04] kingoffrance anyways, in that sense, five eyes almost perhaps is a transfigured cia, next level up (although how authority flows, no idea) [00:04] kingoffrance just one level of "centralizing" up again [00:04] kingoffrance centralize across countries now [00:07] kingoffrance theres probably distinction between "gathering data" who "processes/evaluates" it etc. [00:07] kingoffrance so analogy probably fails there [00:07] kingoffrance for collection i think is in the ballpark [00:08] kingoffrance maybe a distinction between collection/coordinate but perhaps that line is blurry [00:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:08] kingoffrance like the businesses. we spy on noone. our partners do :) [00:10] kingoffrance does any of that matter? i dont know. but laws might be someone collects, someone else coordinates, someone else evaluates, someone else is authorized to act on that info. [00:10] kingoffrance so they can all deny eachother "we dont collect" "we dotn coordinate" "we dont evalulate" "we dont act" [00:10] kingoffrance even if they are all connected, they can deny eachother like that [00:11] kingoffrance and say they are within the scope of the particular thing they are supposed to be doing [00:11] techrights-news #Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [00:11] kingoffrance anyways, i think you need big picture view to see whatever [00:15] techrights-news Debian GNU/Hurd 2021 released! https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2021/08/msg00040.html #debian #gnu #freesw [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian GNU/Hurd 2021 released! [00:21] psydruid fortunately these companies are being spied on so we know that we should avoid their products [00:22] kingoffrance i think its been said cia took over oss too, which was more military. so the "keyboard warrior" versus "act on information" dialectic was perhaps there right at the start. take anything i say with grain of salt, just things people say, i do not follow such things [00:22] kingoffrance re: where they supposed to originally only coordinate data, or do other things [00:22] kingoffrance *were [00:23] kingoffrance all i am saying is, there is a long history no doubt [00:24] psydruid which is why I am removing (and writing) their products out of my life [00:25] kingoffrance and like businesses, one agency might merge with another etc. [00:25] techrights-news #Ardour 6.9 Digital Audio Workstation Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154485#comment-30550 [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ardour 6.9 Open-Source DAW Released with All-New Plugin Manager, Many Improvements | Tux Machines [00:25] kingoffrance take on additional roles, whatever [00:27] kingoffrance snowden talked of espionage for businesses of course too [00:31] activelow i enjoyed "best of both worlds", the eastern apparatus and the western one [00:32] activelow i would describe it as a clusterfuck of party politics, business interess, corruption and sabotage of opponents, which is ruinous to a healthy society wherever this flourishes, as it does in germany nowadays [00:32] activelow soviet union collapsed, not within a few days or weeks, nonetheless it did [00:38] techrights-news Wine 6.15 Released! How to Install it in Ubuntu 20.04/21.04/18.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154484#comment-30552 [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.15 Announcement | Tux Machines [00:42] kingoffrance lol yes thats how i see things clusterfuck lol lines are all blurred [00:42] kingoffrance e.g. private/public partnerships [00:43] kingoffrance i think for corruption blurred lines is an asset, not a liability [00:43] kingoffrance thats the point lol make sure it is blurry lol [00:44] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:47] techrights-news Looks like #outreachy now pays blogs for its promotion (which seems like a waste of money TBH) https://news.itsfoss.com/outreach-21-winter/ [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | $6,000, Remote, Open Source Internship from Outreachy is Open for Application - It's FOSS News [00:47] techrights-news 16 Popular Free And Open Source UML tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154504 [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 16 Popular Free And Open Source UML tools | Tux Machines [00:48] techrights-news Linux Native vs Proton - IT DOESNT MATTER! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VjBjJguDy1A #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Native vs Proton - IT DOESN'T MATTER! - Invidious [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:49] psydruid call a in inferior technology low-quality and butthurt cultists come after you to tell you you are wrong and don't know what you're talking about [00:50] techrights-news #JavaScript #Programming: New Manuals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154505 [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JavaScript Programming: New Manuals | Tux Machines [00:50] psydruid only they know what is right and what you should use [00:52] techrights-news Vieb: More Than Just A Vim Inspired Browser - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6DPDExXs77Q #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Vieb: More Than Just A Vim Inspired Browser - Invidious [00:52] techrights-news Three Incredibly Useful Command Line Tools (shuf, sort, uniq) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=31hGtM4s5JE #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Three Incredibly Useful Command Line Tools (shuf, sort, uniq) - Invidious [00:56] techrights-news Productivity management with a twist a rotary time tracker that uses magnets! | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/14/productivity-management-with-a-twist-a-rotary-time-tracker-that-uses-magnets/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Productivity management with a twist a rotary time tracker that uses magnets! | Arduino Blog [00:58] techrights-news #gnu #linux distro #Bluestar 5.13.10 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net ● Aug 15 [01:01] techrights-news #grep 3.7 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | grep-3.7 released | Tux Machines [01:01] techrights-news Linux Release Roundups http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Release Roundups | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.93 swarm size (avg): 272.78 [01:08] techrights-news New Videos: Command Line, Vieb, and Native Gaming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos: Command Line, Vieb, and Native Gaming | Tux Machines [01:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:11] techrights-news #Ogre 13 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ogre 13 released | Tux Machines [01:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:27] MinceR the only clients on the other side of the bridge are me, ChanServ and tr-bridge [01:27] MinceR oops, wrong, i was looking at the wrong window [01:27] MinceR nvm [01:29] schestowitz-TR ok [01:29] XRevan86 MinceR: Yea, we should at least have phobos in there. [01:29] schestowitz-TR I guess you meant the failing network [01:30] *schestowitz-TR checks LC [01:30] MinceR i looked at #techbytes by mistake [01:30] schestowitz-TR down to 24 there, with almost no activity in days [01:30] schestowitz-TR safe to say this is the only place where it's all consolidated [01:30] schestowitz-TR some time soon our server physically travels [01:31] schestowitz-TR so downtime for a couple hours [01:31] XRevan86 (01:22:37) MinceR: https://ircz.de/p/21071373 [01:31] XRevan86 (01:23:23) XRevan86: MinceR: Guess the country. [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5673280) [01:31] XRevan86 psydruid: Can ye do it? :) [01:31] XRevan86 The current state of affairs with freenode: https://youtu.be/84gmKIKTk40 [01:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Electric Light Orchestra - It's Over (Official Video) - YouTube [01:32] schestowitz-TR tbh, as I said before, there is an upside to it [01:32] schestowitz-TR as we've long planned to become independent from FN [01:32] schestowitz-TR but tessier, cube, zoobab etc. did not migrate with us [01:32] schestowitz-TR maybe they will one day [01:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: Thing is, I don't know if they're even there on the other side. [01:33] XRevan86 Probably not. [01:33] schestowitz-TR zoobab is on LC [01:33] schestowitz-TR cube is back in the 1990s :-) [01:33] schestowitz-TR tessier possibly stopped irc altogether [01:35] XRevan86 cubexyz's been personally notified, so I don't know what's the hold up. [01:35] psydruid XRevan86, Ukraine? just a guess :) [01:36] schestowitz XRevan86: old habits, I guess [01:36] XRevan86 psydruid: Nailed it :). [01:38] schestowitz-TR :-) [01:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: I wonder how his habits cope with a connection error. [01:45] schestowitz-TR we shall see, given that freenode is dead [01:45] schestowitz-TR he was given all the info he needed [01:59] psydruid was killing freenode his main objective or just a side-effect? ● Aug 15 [02:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.55 swarm size (avg): 272.76 [02:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:35] schestowitz psydruid: side effect I think [02:35] schestowitz it's not what Lee had in mind [02:35] schestowitz he didn't think ahead [02:35] schestowitz and it ruined him and his ventures [02:35] schestowitz maybe at one point it became a matter of spite and exploitation alone [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 14, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-140821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-140821.txt Read the log now... [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 14, 2021 [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-14.txt [02:45] XRevan86 Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. [02:48] schestowitz-TR yeah [02:48] schestowitz-TR we said something along those lines [02:48] schestowitz-TR the two can become indistinguishable [02:48] schestowitz-TR btw, lee is younger than me [02:49] schestowitz-TR I moreover can say he's being immature [02:49] schestowitz-TR who subsidises him? Maybe relatives... [02:50] AdmFubar https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/14/afghanistan-taliban-us-troops sounds a lot like corporate america.. [02:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Why is Afghanistan falling to the Taliban so fast? | Daniel L Davis | The Guardian [02:50] MinceR the Empire of Joseon, of course. [02:51] *blitzed (~blitzed@v2r39fy99bgr6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:52] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: interesting analogy [02:53] AdmFubar with emphasis on the anal part.... [02:54] AdmFubar () [02:56] schestowitz-TR oncology [02:58] AdmFubar Heat waves and murder hornet... what more can you ask for in NW USA.... maybe some soylent green? [02:58] AdmFubar https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/13/murder-hornet-sighting-washington-state [02:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Washington state confirms first live murder hornet sighting of the year | Washington state | The Guardian [02:59] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 15 [03:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:03] AdmFubar Douglas Adams was thinking ahead of his time!, You plastic pal that is fun to be with! [03:03] AdmFubar https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/13/elliq-robot-companion-seniors [03:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | ElliQ is 93-year-old Juanitas friend. Shes also a robot | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.53 swarm size (avg): 272.74 [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 113988 total Total pages: 37071 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 6 days ago [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.8 GB TotalOut: 428 MB [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:12] techrights-ipfs-bot QmfBw8KjEL4jUBLnCDfDMTME9vkCdKPKjn6wFninkuMEkV [03:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [03:31] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:37] schestowitz-TR [02:50] the Empire of Joseon, of course. [03:37] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of some deep-pocketed expats [03:37] schestowitz-TR who might be using lee in their quest for political power grab [03:38] schestowitz-TR "here, have 50 million dollars to buy yourself puff pieces about some joseon thing" [03:38] schestowitz-TR "call yourself a tech genius" [03:38] schestowitz-TR "pia was operating at massive losses afaik" [03:38] schestowitz-TR "don't worry, ride our money like uber..." [03:39] schestowitz-TR alex lee's shells game the same [03:39] schestowitz-TR I doubt it profits [03:39] schestowitz-TR it just buys lots of media puff pieces [03:39] schestowitz-TR and pays vloggers/'influencer' [03:39] schestowitz-TR then they push thie joseon narrative [03:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: That's a pretty big hypothesis without anything to back it up. [03:46] schestowitz-TR I know [03:47] schestowitz-TR but I said it's just a guess/hunch [03:47] schestowitz-TR because I fail to see who would otherwise bankroll all this [03:47] XRevan86 Well, he ran some business', so having money is not weird. [03:48] schestowitz-TR right, but business loans too need evidence of growth [03:48] schestowitz-TR Ar-iadne published some court docs [03:48] schestowitz-TR they kept under the wraps their actual performance [03:48] schestowitz-TR like sub growth [03:48] XRevan86 And now he has his hands on a Joseon Empire and thinks he put it into some good use. [03:49] schestowitz-TR and operating expenses may have vastly outrun actual revenue [03:49] schestowitz-TR to income would be negative [03:49] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: that crackpottery I have another theory about [03:49] XRevan86 VPN is a lucrative business, so is bitcoin. [03:49] schestowitz-TR first, I saw no papers [03:49] Despatche shame people feel a need to run an irc network as a business [03:49] schestowitz-TR remember the bitcoin crackpots [03:49] XRevan86 * he can put [03:49] schestowitz-TR like that Aussie who claimed he invented BitCOin [03:50] schestowitz-TR I could look up his name, it's a very common name [03:50] schestowitz-TR if they can claim something or make claims to fame [03:50] schestowitz-TR like so-called 'inventor' of email [03:50] schestowitz-TR then they can buy fake media coverage [03:50] schestowitz-TR and then uses that as 'evidence' of something that may in fact be false [03:50] schestowitz-TR it's hard to be a heir of something 100+ years ago [03:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm starting to doubt that he has anything on him other than approval from Yi Seok. [03:51] schestowitz-TR because it's like 4 generations up [03:51] schestowitz-TR which means maybe hundreds of people can make similar claims to a supposed throne [03:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: Right, there are two pretenders actually, because there's no direct lineage. [03:52] schestowitz-TR right [03:52] schestowitz-TR so we seem to agree on that [03:52] Despatche starting to? did you ever actually believe he had any real claim at any point? [03:52] schestowitz-TR but the media puff pieces can help get loans [03:52] schestowitz-TR for a supposedly "good" business [03:52] schestowitz-TR that makes losses [03:52] XRevan86 Despatche: Well, the way he worded things, it seemed like he had stuff on him. [03:52] schestowitz-TR and then get a home morgage backed on that bubble [03:53] schestowitz-TR a certain bernie (not sanders) build a pyramid scheme like that [03:53] schestowitz-TR ponzi more specifically [03:53] XRevan86 Despatche: Because even being an heir to the Yi dynasty doesn't mean that the Joseon Empire is suddenly back. [03:53] schestowitz-TR pyramid is a more generic term [03:53] Despatche XRevan86: afaik everyone who pulls stunts like this does that though [03:53] XRevan86 so I thought that maybe he has a government-in-exile on him in some form [03:54] schestowitz-TR he told me he didn't even know about it [03:54] XRevan86 But maybe not, and that government is truly fully gone. [03:54] schestowitz-TR until years ago [03:54] Despatche the only reason we don't have the entire population of south korea telling him to fuck off is because... honestly... i doubt anyone there even knows or cares that any of this is happening. lol [03:54] schestowitz-TR you'd think maybe one's parents might mention such a thing? [03:54] XRevan86 Despatche: He said to schestowitz that some lawyers told him that the treaties might hold up. [03:55] schestowitz-TR he paid the lawyers [03:55] schestowitz-TR they want business [03:55] Despatche well of course he did, again, people who pull stunts like this will tell you they're speaking the truth [03:55] schestowitz-TR that's what lawyers do [03:55] Despatche and yes lawyers [03:55] XRevan86 But if the treaties are signed with the Joseon Empire, and there's nothing left of that government, then why would that be the case? [03:55] schestowitz-TR "i can win the case for you, just hire me" [03:55] Despatche because the treaties probably don't exist and the entire thing is made up [03:55] schestowitz-TR "did you have an accident in the past 3 months?" [03:55] Despatche because people love to do that [03:56] XRevan86 Despatche: It doesn't even matter if the treaties are real or not. [03:56] XRevan86 if the party they're signed with is gone [03:56] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright [03:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Craig Steven Wright - Wikipedia [03:56] schestowitz " [03:56] schestowitz Craig Steven Wright [03:56] schestowitz BornOctober 1970 (age 50) [03:56] schestowitz Brisbane, Australia [03:56] schestowitz NationalityAustralian [03:56] schestowitz Alma materCharles Sturt University [03:56] schestowitz OccupationComputer scientist [03:56] schestowitz Websitewww.craigwright.net [03:56] schestowitz Craig Steven Wright (born October 1970)[1] is an Australian computer scientist and businessman. He has publicly claimed to be the main part of the team that created bitcoin, and the identity behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. These claims are regarded as false by much of the media and the cryptocurrency community [03:56] schestowitz " [03:56] schestowitz He got a whole wikipedia article about him [03:56] schestowitz because of a false claim [03:57] schestowitz same for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai#Other_actions [03:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Shiva Ayyadurai - Wikipedia [03:57] schestowitz "In January 2017, Harder threatened the Diaspora Foundation with legal action unless it removed three posts by Roy Schestowitz that Harder alleged were "defamatory" towards Ayyadurai.[91] (The Diaspora Foundation is part of the Free Software Support Network, which is in turn run by Eben Moglen and the Software Freedom Law Center.)[91]" [03:58] XRevan86 Even if he manages to establish a government, I'd be a different government just incidentally ruled by the same dynasty (contested) and bearing the same name. [03:58] XRevan86 And the successorship of the Joseon Empire will remain with ROK and DPRK. [03:58] Despatche if he attempts to establish any sort of government along these lines, i'm pretty sure both koreas would come out to crush this guy [03:59] XRevan86 Despatche: He's already trying. [03:59] schestowitz-TR this is why it's a fantasy [03:59] schestowitz-TR they would not let some us-born us citizen take over two nations [03:59] schestowitz-TR because of some alleged paper [03:59] XRevan86 Despatche: But, being a genius that he is, role of territory is played by a flippin' IRC network. [03:59] schestowitz-TR "well, we love our country... BUT THIS DUDE has some copies of some papers, so hereby we resign!" ● Aug 15 [04:00] Despatche it's funny because [04:00] Despatche the us and the uk have actual papers saying the us is still supposedly owned by the uk [04:00] schestowitz-TR the irc network was vast but vulnerable [04:00] Despatche but those will likely never be enforced unless the entire world state changes overnight [04:00] schestowitz-TR after its founder died it was in the hands of one person, christel [04:00] schestowitz-TR based on paper [04:00] schestowitz-TR and she could be promised when she was in dire need of money [04:00] schestowitz-TR so lee bought her [04:01] XRevan86 Despatche: Just like Andrew Lee owned freenode but said that he'll never get involved? :) [04:01] schestowitz-TR freenode was on shaky foundations basically [04:01] Despatche nah [04:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: It really was. [04:01] schestowitz-TR he managed to exploit that [04:02] schestowitz-TR many people, many projects [04:02] schestowitz-TR on very weak foundations [04:02] schestowitz-TR which is something we said last year [04:02] schestowitz-TR and looked to move away after 12 years [04:02] Despatche more like if lee had some actual ownership of freenode that basically everyone (including him) has basically forgotten about and that he can't realistically do anything with because the entire freenode userbase would come after him irl and toss him into the nearest lake [04:02] schestowitz-TR we also worried about privacy aspects at the time [04:02] schestowitz-TR I knew A-iadne for 10+ years, online [04:02] schestowitz-TR I knew no freenode staff (except in name) [04:03] Despatche which, sadly, is not what happened. it should have been what happened, though [04:03] schestowitz-TR and some of them were poorly vetted [04:04] XRevan86 Despatche: Well, I think the community overall did good in this situation. [04:04] XRevan86 And left Andrew Lee https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/__# [04:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wiktionary.org | [04:05] Despatche sure, but the fact that this could even happen is much more important than the solution we ended up with [04:05] XRevan86 beside a broken trough [04:06] Ariadne Despatche: which is why leaders in the free software community moved quickly to contain this shitshow to just being freenode [04:06] Despatche aye [04:07] Ariadne he tried to buy into other projects more critical to the free software supply chain, like fosshost [04:07] schestowitz-TR oh, did he? [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.35 swarm size (avg): 272.71 [04:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: There was an agreement between leenode and fosshost, yes [04:08] schestowitz-TR I saw that [04:08] schestowitz-TR but it said agreement [04:08] schestowitz-TR with no actual details [04:08] Ariadne an agreement after a large sum of money was transferred [04:08] schestowitz-TR you can see in the chat he mentioned that [04:08] schestowitz-TR he even tried to suggest putting techrights on fosshost [04:08] schestowitz-TR which I declined [04:09] schestowitz-TR lots of poo-poo from this guy [04:09] schestowitz-TR he tried to hire Ariadne [04:09] Ariadne i dont care about his politics btw [04:10] schestowitz-TR I do actuallu [04:10] Ariadne i think people should not be able to flash a bunch of money and gain positions of control over infrastructure that is critical to the free software community [04:10] schestowitz-TR crackpots appeal to him [04:10] schestowitz-TR in EPO criminals attract criminals [04:10] schestowitz-TR in politics, crackpots appeal to other crackpots [04:10] schestowitz-TR and charlatans/fakers [04:10] schestowitz-TR because they offer them hope and allure [04:10] schestowitz-TR role models of sorts [04:11] XRevan86 Ariadne: If by politics ye mean "right-winginess" then neither do I, it's weird how some people just need to shove everything into an epic battle of the wings. [04:11] XRevan86 I.e. left-wing Libera and right-wing Andrew Lee [04:11] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: it's not right wing [04:11] schestowitz-TR it's crackpots who relate to the right [04:11] schestowitz-TR hiring crackpots and scams [04:11] Ariadne i know several of the libera staff to be right wing [04:11] schestowitz-TR getting on board with them [04:11] *Ariadne shrugs [04:11] schestowitz-TR promoting them [04:11] schestowitz-TR it's not a wing thing [04:12] schestowitz-TR but the appeal to charlatans [04:12] schestowitz-TR like Trump [04:12] XRevan86 Ariadne: Yea, I'm just looking at Twatter's search periodically, and perspectives sometimes raise my eyebrow. [04:13] activelow sorry to interrupt, Trump simply represented charlatanry which is the rule, he did so only with his special, uhm, esteem [04:13] kingoffrance you have a unibrow? :D [04:13] Ariadne btw we are moving some servers out of the cabinet that the techrights server is in [04:13] XRevan86 kingoffrance: * my one eyebrow of which I have two [04:13] Ariadne nothing should go down but never know [04:14] XRevan86 Andrew Lee's politics in terms of his attempts to become an emperor that's entertaining stuff. [04:15] XRevan86 And his leniency towards conspiracy theories is just sad. [04:15] XRevan86 "left-wing" just doesn't offer good enough conspiracy theories. [04:15] Ariadne people who think themselves to be smart have a tendency to lean toward conspiracy theories [04:15] Ariadne there is a paper or two on it [04:16] Despatche xrevan86: yes, it's weird how humans overwhelmingly prefer to split into no more or less than two diametrically opposing camps, almost as if we're programmed to. weird, and frustrating [04:16] kingoffrance ^ [04:16] kingoffrance people have even told me thats why you have wings, human brain works that way [04:17] Despatche not to be confused with that left brain right brain nonsense, mind [04:17] kingoffrance that wont stop them :) [04:17] kingoffrance people will say anything for "politics" [04:18] activelow if there is some left and right, or polarity, then djt was the short circuit [04:18] XRevan86 Despatche: I don't think that's the case, I think that's a cultural thing. [04:19] XRevan86 Or rather, this particular thing, trying to frame literally every thing into a fight between left- and right- [04:20] kingoffrance well, its just more clusterf***. private/public partnerships makes everything both [04:20] kingoffrance if theres no private, everything is political [04:20] XRevan86 In Russia there are some attempts to frame the world in terms of Western culture and Eastern culture, with Russia being on the rift and needing to choose its path in one direction or the other. [04:22] XRevan86 It doesn't really stick though, because it's just way too abstract and no one really cares. But it pops up here and there. [04:22] Despatche "western culture" most associate with the british and western europe, but what is "eastern culture"? is it the middle east? east asia? southeast asia? [04:22] XRevan86 Despatche: China [04:23] XRevan86 Despatche: It's a very oversimplified worldview based on influence from the Golden Horde. [04:23] activelow it is, the language domains: English dominating the minor rest of the world [04:23] Despatche hmm. though, now that i say that, capitalism is also considered a major part of "western culture", and there sure is a lot of that in "eastern" countries... [04:24] XRevan86 Despatche: The concept is dated. [04:24] activelow russian isn't at least a mandatory language of the EPO [04:25] XRevan86 activelow: Would be weird considering that Russia is not a member. [04:26] XRevan86 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/European_Patent_Organisation.png [04:28] activelow bulgaria, czechs, slovenia, slovakia, croatia, poland... all of them eastern germanic dialect realm (slavic) [04:28] XRevan86 eastern germanic? what? [04:28] CrystalMath XRevan86: joseon is pretty consistently above 1,300 now [04:28] activelow yes, russian is eastern germanic [04:28] CrystalMath XRevan86: but yeah growth is very very slow [04:28] XRevan86 activelow: What a story, Mark. [04:30] CrystalMath activelow: not all indoeuropean languages are germanic [04:30] XRevan86 activelow: I don't want to ruin your day, but Proto-Slavic is not a descendant of Proto-Germanic. [04:30] CrystalMath you could say they're all some kind of variant of persian, based on where they originated, but that would also be wrong [04:30] activelow XRevan86: it is the SAME language root [04:30] CrystalMath activelow: yes but siblings are not parents of each other [04:30] CrystalMath proto-germanic and proto-slavic share a common ancestor [04:31] CrystalMath but they are not equal to each other, nor descended from each other [04:31] activelow proto-germanic and proto-slavic is the exact same thing [04:31] CrystalMath not really [04:31] CrystalMath they were somewhat different languages, with their own different dialects [04:31] XRevan86 They are *very* different. [04:31] CrystalMath not as different as german and russian today [04:31] CrystalMath but yeah [04:31] activelow not the language root: wulfila bible [04:32] CrystalMath XRevan86: you could see some similarities for sure [04:32] CrystalMath slavic and germanic languages got more different as they aged [04:32] CrystalMath but if you go backwards in time they bome more similar [04:32] XRevan86 CrystalMath: boroda and beard are pretty similiar-looking words [04:32] CrystalMath yeah [04:32] CrystalMath s/bome/become/ [04:33] XRevan86 But the Gothic language is not something an ancient Slav could even try to understand. [04:33] CrystalMath generally no, yeah [04:33] XRevan86 and activelow got into his head that it's the common ancestor [04:33] CrystalMath it was not mutually intelligible [04:33] CrystalMath there was a point [04:33] CrystalMath where baltic and slavic languages were similar enough [04:33] XRevan86 The point is called Proto-Indo-European, and then Proto-Balto-Slavic [04:34] CrystalMath to be understood, and this was only a few thousand years ago [04:34] CrystalMath maybe even only 1 thousand years ago [04:34] CrystalMath PIE was ~5kya (kya = kiloyears ago) [04:35] XRevan86 activelow: Let's look at the verb "to have": English: "to have", (High) German: "haben", Gothic (wulfila bible): "haban" [04:35] CrystalMath possibly 5-8 [04:35] XRevan86 activelow: Now Proto-Slavic: "jmti" [04:35] activelow that's bulgarian [04:35] CrystalMath no [04:35] CrystalMath that's not bulgarian :P [04:35] XRevan86 activelow: Bulgarian: "imam" [04:36] activelow Odin. [04:36] XRevan86 activelow: Is that a reply to something? [04:37] activelow anyway, distraction. [04:37] XRevan86 activelow: I'm sorry for crushing you so hard, but what ye've said about Slavic languages is not just wrong, it has no connection to reality whatsoever. [04:37] activelow it was intended as an answer to the question of east and west [04:38] AdmFubar https://autosaveisforwimps.substack.com/p/cutting-edge-personal-comms-tech [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-autosaveisforwimps.substack.com | Cutting-edge personal comms tech has literally nothing to say for itself - by Alistair Dabbs - Autosave is for wimps [04:38] schestowitz [04:15] people who think themselves to be smart have a tendency to lean toward conspiracy theories [04:38] schestowitz Emphasis on "think" [04:38] schestowitz Because they overcompensate for something [04:38] Ariadne right [04:39] schestowitz Lee is "Shrewd" [04:39] schestowitz but not smart [04:39] XRevan86 oh hey, Slavic liti (to heal) is related to the word "leech" [04:39] XRevan86 the more ye know [04:39] schestowitz CrystalMath: part 12 will say something good about Serbia [04:40] schestowitz Monday publication [04:40] kingoffrance (seen on bill maher other day) its like people have either a 4 second or 4 hour attention span (podcasts). conspiracy is indistinguishable from "people dont read" :/ [04:40] AdmFubar https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-pledges-open-source-ai-alongside-crypto-donation-drive-210809/ [04:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub Pledges Open Source & AI Alongside Crypto Donation Drive * TorrentFreak [04:40] XRevan86 also to the word "religion", which is not as fun. [04:41] Despatche s/shrewd/shrude imo [04:41] schestowitz CrystalMath: do you know her? http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Branka-Totic.png [04:42] XRevan86 activelow: Also, Eastern Germanic is just not a thing, the descendants of Proto-Germanic are High, Low and Central Germans. [04:43] XRevan86 although those are more like areas of influence rather than a strict division, as usual with languages. [04:45] schestowitz 'Anglo-Saxon' [04:46] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Germanic_languages okay, actually, I was wrong [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | East Germanic languages - Wikipedia [04:47] activelow XRevan86: i think the article is full of mistakes. for example i suspect people travelled from south to north, not the other way round [04:48] XRevan86 activelow: Ye also thought that Slavic languages are part of it, so not much credibility, sorry. [04:49] activelow since persian conquests, late bronce age collapse, and dark ages following [04:49] CrystalMath schestowitz: no, not really [04:49] CrystalMath schestowitz: part 12 of what? [04:50] schestowitz CrystalMath: http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/deputy-minister-dui-sword-falling/ [04:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part X: A Fall Guy For the Deputy Minister? | Techrights [04:51] CrystalMath activelow: but anyway, even if slavic people and germanic people aren't exactly siblings, we're still cousins :) [04:51] schestowitz CrystalMath: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/state-capture.png http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/macedonia-doyen.jpg [04:51] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So are, for instance, Celts. [04:51] CrystalMath yes [04:53] CrystalMath XRevan86: if you go further back, ultimately, a third of all europe, and then all white people in europe, and then everyone, really [04:54] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's called *Indo*-European [04:54] XRevan86 for a reason [04:54] CrystalMath right [04:54] CrystalMath does iran count as europe? hmm [04:54] CrystalMath maybe too far [04:54] CrystalMath so i should have said eurasia [04:54] XRevan86 "and then everyone, really" I can contest that too [04:55] schestowitz-TR Turkey and Iran share a border [04:55] schestowitz-TR Turkey is considered Asia/Europe [04:55] XRevan86 It's not a guarantee that all languages share a common ancestor. [04:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: ah, but i meant people [04:55] schestowitz-TR so if Iran invades Turkey again, maybe Persians can apply for EU membership :-) [04:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Well, sure, we're all the same species. [04:55] CrystalMath i'm not sure about the nostratic hypothesis either [04:56] CrystalMath that all languages come from just one [04:56] XRevan86 It's called a hypothesis for a reason :) [04:56] CrystalMath there are some signs of it, but it's very far from proven [04:56] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid_Empire [04:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Achaemenid Empire - Wikipedia [04:56] schestowitz Turkey was "Persian" [04:57] schestowitz they got as far as today's macedonia [04:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Right. It's easy to imagine people just evolving languages for all of history from the same root, but there's a hitch: someone in prehistoric times could construct a language and get it adopted and there's no way to know. [04:59] *job (~job@ybkcke5px5fx2.irc) has joined #techrights [04:59] XRevan86 And that's just one thing that could happen. ● Aug 15 [05:02] activelow 500BCE the "old testament" was known to be re-written by persians, and a transition known as yahwism disappearing and judaism emerging then [05:03] activelow germanic language roots are at least 500 years older than 500BCE, that's why some of the yahwist origin can be understood [05:03] activelow and people settled from south to north [05:04] activelow so, the ancestors carried an older language and cultural heritage northwards, where it was conserved, and appeared later [05:04] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:04] Ariadne the maintenance window is completed for now [05:05] activelow this is how i explain why rune alphabet is more primitive than the greek one, because it is older, it is the ancestry alphabet which supposedly dissappeared during the "dark ages" [05:05] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: thanks for the headsup! [05:06] schestowitz-TR we have some really explosive reports on Europe this month and next month [05:06] XRevan86 In what way are runes more primitive than the Greek alphabet? [05:07] activelow good question, maybe they aren't. at least greek alphabet more closely resembles modern latin one than older runes. [05:08] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210811/10300747342/rockstar-begins-war-modders-gta-games-totally-unclear-reasons.shtml [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rockstar Begins A War On Modders For 'GTA' Games For Totally Unclear Reasons | Techdirt [05:08] activelow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age#/media/File:Solvognen-00100.jpg [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bronze Age - Wikipedia [05:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 121.16 swarm size (avg): 272.63 [05:09] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210812/23570947352/apples-new-scanning-tools-raising-more-concerns-even-inside-apple.shtml [05:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's New Scanning Tools Raising More Concerns, Even Inside Apple | Techdirt [05:10] XRevan86 activelow: Ye really should read Wikipedia on the topic, it may become immediately obvious that runes stole stuff from Latin that wasn't present in the Greek alphabet (but was in Phoenician). [05:11] XRevan86 So ironically runes are closer to "Modern" Latin than the Greek alphabet. [05:14] XRevan86 activelow: Also "dark ages" are more primitive than Ancient Greece therefore happened before? [05:15] AdmFubar oohhh what could go wrong here... [05:15] AdmFubar https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/13/025242&from=rss [05:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Michael Bloomberg Join Forces to Mine for Raw Materials in Greenland - SoylentNews [05:15] schestowitz-TR two a-holes [05:16] schestowitz-TR greenwashing in greenland [05:16] XRevan86 (I know things are not that simple but just for the sake of argument) [05:17] AdmFubar ? two? I counted 3..... checks fingers again... [05:17] schestowitz-TR make it 3 then.. [05:17] schestowitz-TR anyway, the public is onto them [05:18] schestowitz-TR biden's largest funding source was 'mike' bloomberg [05:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ [05:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [05:18] schestowitz-TR just send them to space [05:18] schestowitz-TR leave them there [05:19] schestowitz-TR they're extracting and hoarding everything [05:19] schestowitz-TR they then have the audacity to label themselves climate champions [05:19] schestowitz-TR it only enboldens climate change sceptics [05:19] schestowitz-TR when people like Gore and Gates, the largest polluter, claim to carry the flag [05:22] activelow XRevan86: it is said scripture and artifacts from late bronace age collapse disappeared in greece and ties cut, when instead some artifacts were found in the north, such as the danish sun wagon [05:23] schestowitz "Today is my final day as an employee of #Mozilla Corporation." https://dblohm7.ca/blog/2021/08/13/all-good-things/ [05:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dblohm7.ca | All Good Things - Aaron Klotzs Software Blog [05:24] schestowitz w t f? [05:24] schestowitz https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/best-tweets-week-of-august-8/ [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Fall Plans vs. the Delta Variant, Deciphering Gen Z's use of emojis, Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp, and more are on this week's Top Shelf [05:24] schestowitz what does this have to do w/ firefox/moz? [05:24] XRevan86 activelow: Tut ne est' pravdy v slovakh tvojikh, druzhe. [05:34] AdmFubar you have to use a browser to see them...at least from the links they provide.. [05:43] XRevan86 activelow: That's a sentence that's virtually the same between Proto-Slavic and Russian. Since Proto-Slavic is a descendant of Eastern Germanic, ye should have no troubles understanding it without translation as well no problem. [05:45] XRevan86 psydruid can vouch for it being legit :) [05:48] Despatche crazy that someone can join mozilla post-firefox 4 and leave it. but for me, firefox 3 feels like a year ago [05:49] activelow created a gentoo ebuild for firefox 3.6 some month ago, and succeeded with it compiling against latest gentoo testing branch [05:50] activelow the javascript engine of firefox 3.6 was more secure than any later [05:52] *activelow departs the kingdom of schestowitz for some sleep [05:52] activelow XRevan86: dobra noc [05:52] schestowitz-TR 'kingodom' [05:52] schestowitz-TR feifdom [05:53] schestowitz-TR ROY-AL Schestowitz [05:53] schestowitz-TR Crown Prince of GNU LOL [05:59] schestowitz-TR we have kingoffrance here too ● Aug 15 [06:00] schestowitz-TR and XRevan86, the Saint of Saint Petersburg [06:00] AdmFubar If you thought norovirus was fun wait till you try this! https://www.snopes.com/ap/2021/08/13/27-people-aboard-carnival-cruise-test-positive-for-covid-19/ [06:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-27 People Aboard Carnival Cruise Test Positive for COVID-19 | Snopes.com [06:00] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: scopes? [06:01] schestowitz-TR oh year [06:01] schestowitz-TR they are a failing site [06:01] schestowitz-TR I suppose you heard about the takeover [06:01] schestowitz-TR now they just run AP stuff [06:01] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: I know it's OT but: [06:02] schestowitz-TR there's no better way to avoid covid-19 than to avoid proximity to people [06:02] schestowitz-TR masks have limited effect, better used than now used, same for gloves [06:02] schestowitz-TR there are many vaccines out there now [06:02] schestowitz-TR better use one if your work exposes you to people [06:02] schestowitz-TR cruise at this stage is madness [06:03] schestowitz-TR shows that business takes priority over safety [06:03] schestowitz-TR airlines also... signs of desperation... as if mass testing and shots will make it go away this summer [06:04] schestowitz-TR wishful thinking spread by our Pry Minister and corporate medioa [06:05] schestowitz-TR even some large coporations finally admit workers cannot return to the office until next year at the earliest [06:05] schestowitz-TR where this was attempted there were big waves, resurgence [06:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.30 swarm size (avg): 272.56 [06:10] schestowitz-TR Hubris Boat [06:11] schestowitz-TR "All 27 were vaccinated, had mild or no symptoms, and were in isolation, according to the statement." [06:11] AdmFubar there was no takeover I am aware of... just the flailing of the one of the founders [06:12] schestowitz-TR let me find it [06:13] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes [06:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Snopes - Wikipedia [06:15] schestowitz maybe you mean https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/deansterlingjones/snopes-cofounder-plagiarism-mikkelson [06:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | The Co-Founder Of The Fact-Checking Site Snopes Was Writing Plagiarized Articles Under A Fake Name [06:16] AdmFubar I don't see anything mention about being acquired by another party [06:17] schestowitz-TR let me check my notes [06:17] schestowitz-TR from years ago [06:17] schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1426462364736663557 [06:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NEWS #TheHill #Snopes suspends co-founder after #plagiarism discovered https://t.co/AwDF7wohjr [06:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Snopes suspends co-founder after plagiarism discovered | TheHill [06:17] schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1091711822514794496 [06:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #snopes has partnered with the #stasi and the site's new owners are partisan groups; not what the site was original https://t.co/8qxIrfCbIH [06:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #snopes has partnered with the #stasi and the site's new owners are partisan groups; not what the site was original https://t.co/8qxIrfCbIH [06:18] schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1048744512573661184 [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Banksy Artwork Self-Destructs Just After $1.4 Million Sale https://t.co/rQZqSBi5kz #snopes is now a "news" site... [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Banksy Artwork Self-Destructs Just After $1.4 Million Sale | Snopes.com [06:18] schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1026971552661815296 [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Snopes reaffirms its transition into partisan spin site, not fact-checking site https://t.co/ApyrL8btOo [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Is It 'Censorship' for Platforms to Delete InfoWars Content? Not According to InfoWars. | Snopes.com [06:18] schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1018400470145142784 [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #snopes has become partisan crap, no? It's reposting AP, which was proven to have rigged to election in Clinton's f https://t.co/fKTI3KGnEM [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #snopes has become partisan crap, no? It's reposting AP, which was proven to have rigged to election in Clinton's f https://t.co/fKTI3KGnEM [06:18] schestowitz OK, so it was mostly about rebranding or reinventing as "news" sites [06:19] schestowitz corporate media loudspeakers basically [06:19] schestowitz for the rich and powerful [06:19] schestowitz around 3 years ago [06:19] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/schestowitz/status/966672882427482112 [06:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () (@schestowitz): "#snopes is no longer a fact-checking site, it has "News -> Political News" and it's not neutral https://www.snopes.com/2018/02/21/social-media-platforms-tighten-rules/" | nitter [06:19] AdmFubar so they are not owned by a third party then [06:19] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/schestowitz/status/960708419928969217 [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () (@schestowitz): "#snopes now reprinting #ap Odd. Is it still a fact-checking site or just an extension of MSM now? https://www.snopes.com/2018/02/05/british-judge-rule-assange-bid-get-warrant-dropped/" | nitter [06:20] Despatche wise man once told me no sacred cows [06:20] schestowitz 2017: https://nitter.eu/schestowitz/status/938715840731545600 [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () (@schestowitz): "Today in #copyright is for #censorship #snopes and #dmca https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20171201/17580638721/snopes-debunks-fake-youtube-video-videos-creator-responds-with-bogus-dmca-notice.shtml If they don't rectify these #laws then forget about them" | nitter [06:20] AdmFubar don't say that in india..... [06:20] AdmFubar ;) [06:20] schestowitz :-) [06:21] schestowitz https://twitter.com/JulianAssange [06:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/JulianAssange ) [06:22] schestowitz "Account suspended' [06:22] schestowitz "Twitter suspends accounts which violate the Twitter Rules" [06:22] schestowitz Classy [06:22] AdmFubar it is their sandbox... so it is their rules [06:22] schestowitz https://twitter.com/wikileaks/ still in tact [06:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/ ) [06:23] schestowitz https://nitter.eu/schestowitz/status/652090310470815744 [06:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Dr. Roy Schestowitz () (@schestowitz): "The "NASA gave us Teflon" myth needs to go down the ashtray of Snopes along with "Columbus discovered America" (attacked and occupied it)" | nitter [06:35] *phobos (~phobos@2tmjqat7v55jn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:40] *kingoffrance has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:55] *sepsinn has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 15 [07:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 46.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 95.38 swarm size (avg): 272.49 [07:48] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Aug 15 [08:01] *ybaumy4 has quit (Quit: The Lounge - 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Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M1-Linux-August-2021 "https://asahilinux.org/2021/08/progress-report-august-2021/ #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reverse Engineering & Bring-Up Of Linux On The Apple Silicon M1 Continues - Phoronix [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-asahilinux.org | Progress Report: August 2021 - Asahi Linux [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [09:09] techrights-news #ASUS Laptop Platform Profile Support Under Review For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASUS-Platform-Profile-Linux #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASUS Laptop Platform Profile Support Under Review For Linux - Phoronix [09:10] techrights-news Imagine becoming Deputy Minister for #Justice after issuing threats to people who expose #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/illegal-proposals-dui/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/illegal-proposals-dui/ [09:11] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [09:12] techrights-news The party #politics which led to the disappearance of one enabler of #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos ; another delegate recently emerged at the EPOs Administrative Council http://techrights.org/2021/08/14/deputy-minister-dui-sword-falling/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/14/deputy-minister-dui-sword-falling/ [09:12] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, August 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:13] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:14] techrights-news "Today is my final day as an employee of #Mozilla Corporation." https://dblohm7.ca/blog/2021/08/13/all-good-things/ #firefox #www [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dblohm7.ca | All Good Things - Aaron Klotzs Software Blog [09:15] techrights-news #mozilla, what does this have to do w/ #firefox /moz? https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/best-tweets-week-of-august-8/ also, #twitter is not accessible with #freesw anymore [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Fall Plans vs. the Delta Variant, Deciphering Gen Z's use of emojis, Sarah Paulson as Linda Tripp, and more are on this week's Top Shelf [09:15] techrights-news "In terms of new content, its been a pretty calm period for Firefox after the #MR1 release, with less than 50 strings added over the last 6 weeks." #firefox #mozilla https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2021/08/13/l10n-report-august-2021-edition/ [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | L10n Report: August 2021 Edition | Mozilla L10N [09:16] techrights-news #github is the next #freenode and any moment spent there with you and/or your project entrenches and increases technical debt. #deletegithub -- the sooner, the better off you and your project/s will be. Don't be a #microsoft tenant. [09:16] techrights-news When Corrupt Officials Are Put in Charge of Law, Justice, and Patent-Granting Institutions http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/corrupt-officials-power-consolidation/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents #macedonia [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Corrupt Officials Are Put in Charge of Law, Justice, and Patent-Granting Institutions | Techrights [09:17] techrights-news [Meme] The MaceDoyen http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/meme-the-macedoyen/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents #macedonia [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The MaceDoyen | Techrights [09:18] techrights-news An introduction to #eBPF and where it shines https://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/tip/An-introduction-to-eBPF-and-where-it-shines [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchitoperations.techtarget.com | An introduction to eBPF and where it shines [09:19] techrights-news #eBPF now #monopolied -led http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154440#comment-30555 [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Openwashing Monopolies Again | Tux Machines [09:19] techrights-news Schedule a task with the GNU/Linux at command | https://opensource.com/article/21/8/linux-at-command #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Schedule a task with the Linux at command | Opensource.com [09:20] techrights-news Crater: Free Self-hosted personal Invoicing and expanse manager https://medevel.com/crater-invoicing/ Very strange licence: https://craterapp.com/license #openwashing with #proprietarySoftware #github ... [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Crater: Free Self-hosted personal Invoicing and expanse manager [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-craterapp.com | License - Crater [09:20] techrights-news Dirk Eddelbuettel: x13binary 1.1.57-2 on CRAN: Packaging Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/08/12#x13binary_1.1.57-2 [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [09:21] techrights-news "After nearly two years, the RApiDatetime package on CRAN has received an update, followed-up a quick bug fix." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/08/14#rapidatetime_0.0.5_and_0.0.6 [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [09:22] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/irc-log-140821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/irc-log-140821/ [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 14, 2021 | Techrights [09:23] techrights-news Doyen in the region" of #Balkan nations seems to be commandeering quite a few #EPO voters; What if #eljkoTopi was like an ambassador or a proxy for more than just #Croatia h http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/meme-the-macedoyen/ [09:24] techrights-news Another quick video about a worrisome trend; strongmen and #thugs have basically captured positions of power a situation which in turn rewards other strongmen and thugs, putting at risk those who expose their wrongdoing http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/corrupt-officials-power-consolidation/ [09:29] techrights-news NEWS #OpGuides #bloat #photography Low Bandwidth Images https://opguides.info/posts/lowbandwidthimages/ [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opguides.info | Low Bandwidth Images | Opinionated Guides [09:29] techrights-news NEWS #RubenSchade #OpenHardware Thinking about a reversible sleeper PC https://rubenerd.com/reversible-sleeper-pcs/ [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Thinking about a reversible sleeper PC [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #BBC Who is #TikTok s masked vigilante? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-58195065 [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Who is TikToks masked vigilante? - BBC News [09:34] techrights-news NEWS #SecurityWeek #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft Confirms (Yet Another) #PrintNightmare Flaw as #Ransomware Actors Pounce https://www.securityweek.com/microsoft-confirms-yet-another-printnightmare-flaw-ransomware-actors-pounce [09:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Confirms (Yet Another) PrintNightmare Flaw as Ransomware Actors Pounce | SecurityWeek.Com [09:37] *kingoffrance (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [09:51] techrights-news NEWS #Vice #Politics The Congresswoman Behind #FOSTA Is Coming for #OnlyFans https://www.vice.com/en/article/4avpe3/ann-wagner-fosta-onlyfans-csam-doj-letter [09:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | The Congresswoman Behind FOSTA Is Coming for OnlyFans [09:52] techrights-news NEWS #JacobinMag #Censorship #PayPal and the ADL: A Match Made in Censorship Hell https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/paypal-adl-anti-defamation-league-partnership-censorship-foxman-greenblatt-israel-zionism [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | PayPal and the ADL: A Match Made in Censorship Hell [09:52] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Censorship #Cancelculture has plenty of culture left to cancel https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/567862-cancel-culture-has-plenty-of-culture-left-to-cancel [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cancel culture has plenty of culture left to cancel | TheHill [09:53] techrights-news NEWS #BBC #PressFreedom Sarah Rainsford on# Russia : 'I've been told I can't come back - ever' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58213845 "The reality is that they don't want people like that here" [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Sarah Rainsford on Russia: 'I've been told I can't come back - ever' - BBC News [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright #Twitch Finally Gets Around to Telling Streamers Why Theyre Banned https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/11/twitch-streamers-banned-content-disclosure/ [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/11/twitch-streamers-banned-content-disclosure/ ) [09:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 15 [10:02] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #GTA #Rockstar Begins A War On Modders For 'GTA' Games For Totally Unclear Reasons https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210811/10300747342/rockstar-begins-war-modders-gta-games-totally-unclear-reasons.shtml [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rockstar Begins A War On Modders For 'GTA' Games For Totally Unclear Reasons | Techdirt [10:06] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #InternetArchive Wants Publishers' Sales Data to Show Digital Library Doesn't Hurt Sales https://torrentfreak.com/internet-archive-wants-publishers-sales-data-to-show-digital-library-doesnt-hurt-sales-210814/ [10:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Internet Archive Wants Publishers' Sales Data to Show Digital Library Doesn't Hurt Sales * TorrentFreak [10:06] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:19] techrights-news "I find that to be a horrible strawman" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/rant-discrediting-steve-wozniak-to:e [10:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Rant; discrediting Steve Wozniak to justify a throwaway society [10:27] techrights-news The screeching voices are coming from inside the house, #Apple https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-screeching-voices-are-coming-from:d #rossmanngroup [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | The screeching voices are coming from inside the house, Apple. [10:33] techrights-news #Debian Edu 11 Bullseye Released as a Complete Linux Solution for Schools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154518 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Edu 11 Bullseye Released as a Complete Linux Solution for Schools | Tux Machines [10:57] techrights-news Links 15/8/2021: New Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd, Ogre 13, and grep 3.7 http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/debian-gnu-hurd-and-linux/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/debian-gnu-hurd-and-linux/ [10:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/8/2021: New Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd, Ogre 13, and grep 3.7 | Techrights [10:58] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154519 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines ● Aug 15 [11:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 111.23 swarm size (avg): 272.31 [11:11] techrights-news #freeSW "that is free to access, use, and change without restrictions, plays a central role in the development and use of artificial intelligence (AI)" https://www.brookings.edu/research/how-open-source-software-shapes-ai-policy/ [11:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brookings.edu | How open-source software shapes AI policy [11:13] techrights-news "San Francisco-headquartered Glific an open-source, two-way communication platform for NGOs" https://yourstory.com/socialstory/2021/08/glific-open-source-platform-ngo-whatsapp-chatbots/amp [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yourstory.com | How this San Francisco-headquartered open-source platform is providing a chatbot to NGOs [11:15] techrights-news #TeamUPC keeps pretending that #UPC can miraculously come into existence without #UK ratifying (which it cannot). #patents #europe [11:16] techrights-news Pretty ridiculous calling a week after a misleading and meaningless propaganda term rather than substantial things like laws http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/ip-week-sg-2021.html [11:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | IP Week @ SG 2021 - The IPKat [11:16] techrights-news FOSS Patents: Today is the first anniversary of app developers' D-Day: #FreeFortnite -- #Apple will lose if it doesn't change course and present real solutions http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/08/today-is-app-developers-d-day.html #fosspatents [11:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Today is the first anniversary of app developers' D-Day: #FreeFortnite -- Apple will lose if it doesn't change course and present real solutions [11:19] techrights-news #Debian 11 "bullseye" is officially out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502#comment-30558 [11:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [11:21] techrights-news Wine 6.15 is out seeing more PE library conversions, work for the GDI syscall interface http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154484#comment-30559 [11:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.15 Announcement | Tux Machines [11:24] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@wfwhi72m8iav6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:24] DaemonFC https://www.wane.com/news/indiana/indiana-agency-struggling-with-unemployment-appeals-backlog/ [11:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indiana agency struggling with unemployment appeals backlog | WANE 15 [11:25] DaemonFC Indiana's unemployment appeals system has over 17,000 people waiting for a ruling. Some of them have been waiting since this whole mess began. [11:25] DaemonFC That's not even a particularly large state. [11:25] DaemonFC If the state rules in their favor, they get all of their back benefits, but by then they'll have probably lost everything. [11:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:36] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:40] techrights-news #KDE Connect iOS Design Overview: From Material to Cupertino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154520 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Connect iOS Design Overview: From Material to Cupertino | Tux Machines [11:41] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you are also unemployed from Indiana [11:41] schestowitz-TR just be sure not to be incited against them [11:41] schestowitz-TR some of the media certainly fancies that narrative [11:41] DaemonFC https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/as-taliban-tighten-their-grip-kabul-airport-only-way-out/2590419/ [11:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcchicago.com | As Taliban Tighten Their Grip, Kabul Airport Only Way Out NBC Chicago [11:42] schestowitz-TR "the economy is FINE... people are just LAZY" [11:42] DaemonFC While many people are going to be in deep shit when the Taliban takes Kabul in a week or so, the rich are getting out with "carpets and TV sets" on airplanes. [11:44] techrights-news 7 New Features in the Newly Released Debian 11 Bullseye Linux Distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502#comment-30560 [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [11:46] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154521 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [11:46] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the biden plan is another Kissinger [11:46] schestowitz-TR b-52s [11:47] schestowitz-TR outrageous [11:47] schestowitz-TR as if there's any arruracy in those [11:47] DaemonFC I haven't seen any Biden plan on Afghanistan. [11:47] schestowitz-TR the only "carpet", to borrow your metaphor [11:47] schestowitz-TR will be carpet-bombing [11:47] schestowitz-TR to say they "did something" [11:47] schestowitz-TR bloodbath on the ground where the US cannot see it [11:47] DaemonFC He yanks all of the soldiers out and then sends 5,000 of them back in, in a panic, to evacuate the embassy, after 2 months, when what everyone knew would happen, happened. [11:47] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: read up on the Biden plan [11:48] DaemonFC Over the last two months, as more of Afghanistan fell to the Taliban, he kept saying they could defend themselves, and there were absolutely no parallels to the Vietnam War. [11:48] DaemonFC And now it's literally just Kabul and Chinook helicopters lifting people and cargo out of our embassy. [11:49] DaemonFC None? Really? Let's see. Lots of people died. Both went on for 20 years. Lost both of them. Helicopter embassy evacuation at the end.... [11:50] DaemonFC All the way up to the end, the US insisted that the government it left behind could win without us there when they couldn't win with us there helping them. [11:50] techrights-news What on Earth is this? #JUVE hardly pretends to be anything but a #marketing firm for #litigation giants, basically treating the hiring of single individuals like major news (just promotions/commercials) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/kilburn-strode-bolsters-semiconductor-expertise-with-mathys-squire-partner/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [11:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Kilburn & Strode bolsters semiconductor expertise with Mathys & Squire partner - JUVE Patent [11:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [11:51] schestowitz-TR [12:03] NEWS #CounterPunch #Biden Must Call Off the B-52s Bombing Afghan Cities https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/13/biden-must-call-off-the-b-52s-bombing-afghan-cities/ [11:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden Must Call Off the B-52s Bombing Afghan Cities - CounterPunch.org [11:51] DaemonFC He's not wrong though. Unless we were willing to stick around indefinitely or do total war, then this was impossible. [11:51] schestowitz-TR [12:01] NEWS #CounterPunch Bomber #Biden Sends B-52s in Tantrum over #Taliban Advance https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/13/bomber-biden-sends-b-52s-in-tantrum-over-taliban-advance/ [11:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bomber Biden Sends B-52s in Tantrum over Taliban Advance - CounterPunch.org [11:51] schestowitz-TR [14:15] NEWS #CommonDreams #Afghanistan Opinion | Biden Must Call Off the B-52s Bombing Afghan Cities https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/08/11/biden-must-call-b-52s-bombing-afghan-cities [11:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Biden Must Call Off the B-52s Bombing Afghan Cities | Medea Benjamin [11:52] DaemonFC " On paper, the Afghan National Army has 180,000 troops, but in reality most are unemployed Afghans desperate to earn some money to support their families but not eager to fight their fellow Afghans. The Afghan Army is also notorious for its corruption and mismanagement." [11:53] DaemonFC On paper, Saddam Hussein had a very large army. [11:53] DaemonFC They were more loyal to him than the Afghan Army is to the alleged government that's there now. [11:53] DaemonFC They actually stood and fought, and still didn't do very well against us. [11:53] schestowitz-TR it was air war [11:53] DaemonFC The government in Iraq now is not in much danger of an outright collapse. [11:54] schestowitz-TR US doesn't fight [11:54] schestowitz-TR it just drops bombs [11:54] schestowitz-TR that's not fighting [11:54] schestowitz-TR like sniper cowards [11:54] schestowitz-TR sniping from afar [11:54] schestowitz-TR no risk to them [11:54] DaemonFC Why would you give the enemy an advantage when you don't have to? [11:54] DaemonFC That's not a good idea. [11:54] schestowitz-TR air war is just destruction [11:55] DaemonFC It worked. Saddam's Army was quickly obliterated. [11:55] schestowitz-TR if you want to liberate a place dropping a lot of bombs is not the way [11:55] DaemonFC Google Highway of Death, and that's one incident. [11:55] DaemonFC All that Soviet crap burned out on the ground. [11:55] schestowitz-TR bbiab [11:55] DaemonFC Did him a lot of good, right? [11:55] DaemonFC Most of his Air Force defected to Iran. [11:56] DaemonFC Although some of it stayed behind and fought and got shot down. (Soviet crap, again.) [11:56] DaemonFC There was some ground fighting, but our stuff was much better. [11:57] DaemonFC I mean, we're talking stuff that's 40-50 years ahead of the export version of something they bought off of Russia. [11:57] techrights-news #TeamUPC very well knows about the many barriers to the #UPC and focuses only on Germany; we've been there many times before for over 5 years and it always ended in tears https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t40kbwbp3219/germany-gives-green-light-to-upc [11:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Germany gives green light to UPC | Managing Intellectual Property [11:58] DaemonFC So Saddam had an "army", and it was "big", but it doesn't work. You know, you're not up against another army that's using things from the 50s-70s that were made in Russia to begin with, under a Russian policy that it's better to swarm with these things and expect heavy losses. [11:58] schestowitz-TR Iraq was not liberated [11:58] schestowitz-TR same for Libya [11:58] schestowitz-TR still a mess with their "GNU" [11:58] schestowitz-TR US ruins everything it 'liberates' [11:59] schestowitz-TR only weapons companies win [11:59] schestowitz-TR taxpayers fall deeper into debt [11:59] schestowitz-TR many people die abroad [11:59] schestowitz-TR vets commit suicide in droves [11:59] DaemonFC There tends to be two lines of thought in military tactics. You can go with a high tech and expensive piece of equipment that will win almost every engagement, but would sting if you did manage to lose it. [11:59] schestowitz-TR sad story, dying empire [11:59] DaemonFC Or you can do what the Russians do. [11:59] schestowitz-TR and yet, US loses wars [11:59] DaemonFC Churn out a bunch of crap and expect heavy losses using a "swarm and overwhelm" strategy. [11:59] schestowitz-TR nothing good accomplished ● Aug 15 [12:00] DaemonFC Any particular loss doesn't set you back much because it was cheap and you have lots of people who are expendable. [12:00] DaemonFC The UK went from an empire to an island. [12:00] DaemonFC And from an island to an island that may yet be split 3 different ways. [12:00] techrights-news Get ready for the next 3 parts about EPO votes being captured; What if #eljkoTopi was more than just a bulldog (to staff)? http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/meme-macedonian-state-capture-control-from-afar/ #Techrights #topicip #corruption #balkan | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/meme-macedonian-state-capture-control-from-afar/ [12:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Macedonian State Capture (Control From Afar) | Techrights [12:01] DaemonFC It's much further along the state of decay than we are. [12:01] DaemonFC Two decades maybe? [12:01] techrights-news Didn't last long: Back 4 Blood no longer working on Linux with Proton | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/didnt-last-long-back-4-blood-no-longer-working-on-linux-with-proton #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/15/#latest [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Didn't last long: Back 4 Blood no longer working on Linux with Proton | GamingOnLinux [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:02] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I am not defending GB empire [12:02] DaemonFC There's still hope for the US. [12:02] schestowitz-TR the point is, we typically pick on vulnerable and weak countries in the West [12:02] schestowitz-TR not Russia or China, for example... [12:02] DaemonFC I don't see an internal collapse like that being politically possible. [12:02] schestowitz-TR and then flex our muscles like bullies [12:02] schestowitz-TR after ethnically cleaning some islanders with spears and rocks [12:02] DaemonFC There's unquestionably nothing in our system of laws that allows for that. [12:03] DaemonFC It can't be put up for any sort of vote, legally. [12:03] schestowitz-TR When was the last time US picked on a strong nations? Germany? ONLY BELATEDLY [12:03] schestowitz-TR after ships were sunk by uboats and UK asked for help [12:03] DaemonFC That leaves only one way the US could fall apart, and that would be from internal war. [12:03] DaemonFC I don't see things as being that unstable, or even close. [12:04] schestowitz-TR that happened this year [12:04] schestowitz-TR internal wars like Jan 6th [12:04] DaemonFC The US has survived worse bouts of economic recession and inflation than this. [12:04] DaemonFC Those were a bunch of clowns who knew that if they did anything, they'd be crushed. [12:05] DaemonFC They're being charged with misdemeanors. The government doesn't even take them seriously enough to argue for prison time. [12:05] techrights-news #OpenRazer 3.1 Released With Support For More #Razer Devices - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenRazer-3.1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [12:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenRazer 3.1 Released With Support For More Razer Devices - Phoronix [12:05] DaemonFC Nobody died. [12:05] DaemonFC Except for one of them who was shot by a police officer. [12:06] DaemonFC The news keeps trying to say like 5-6 died, but it's counting one police officer who died of unrelated medical problems, and some who later committed suicide. [12:06] DaemonFC And the frightening part of this is that the police were mostly on the side of the protesters. Which is unsurprising, really. [12:06] techrights-news #Valve puts up a #SteamDeck trailer and the head of Xbox seems to really like it | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/valve-puts-up-a-steam-deck-trailer-and-the-head-of-xbox-seems-to-really-like-it #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux [12:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve puts up a Steam Deck trailer and the head of Xbox seems to really like it | GamingOnLinux [12:06] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you obsess about death tolls [12:06] DaemonFC Instead of investigating the police, Congress is throwing more money at them, which is a mistake. [12:07] schestowitz-TR the political rot in the US seems unprecedented [12:07] schestowitz-TR the civil war was over slavery [12:07] DaemonFC Yeah, with media hyperbole, it does. [12:07] schestowitz-TR this one is a bunch of defected minds and derelicts [12:07] DaemonFC Those people are a bunch of sad losers who, honestly, most of them are crazy too. [12:07] schestowitz-TR and a PRESIDENT egging them on [12:07] DaemonFC They should be locked away. We've always had people like that. [12:08] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: not in the WH [12:08] DaemonFC By locked away, I mean most need to be in a mental institution. [12:08] schestowitz-TR both your parents vote for this [12:08] DaemonFC They won't be around much longer. [12:08] DaemonFC And honestly, did you see anyone much younger than 50 there? [12:08] DaemonFC 50 was kind of the low end, wasn't it? From the pictures, from the arrests? [12:08] *i\o (trttl@192.99.249.220) has joined #techrights [12:09] *spazzz (~spazz@urifce6zxwtdi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:09] DaemonFC This isn't something where a youth movement that's going to be around for a very long time is seeking to overthrow things. [12:09] DaemonFC This is some old people who have no real support outside of their own group and will be lost to attrition. [12:09] DaemonFC Not viable. [12:10] DaemonFC And most of these people would be more fucked than I would be if the government collapsed. [12:10] DaemonFC You get old, and the government stops taxing you and starts doing shit for you. [12:10] DaemonFC They picked a hell of a time to overthrow it, wouldn't you say? [12:11] DaemonFC Here, let's pay taxes for decades and then knock over the government a year before the Social Security and Medicare and free license plates and bus passes and senior apartments. [12:11] DaemonFC Although, I digress. Nobody accused them of being smart. [12:12] techrights-news "very interesting recent German decision, which has tackled the application of such exclusive right in the context of linking within online image sharing service #Pinterest ." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/guest-post-german-court-copyright.html #de #germany #copyright #copyrights [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] German court: copyright infringement by re-pin on Pinterest - The IPKat [12:12] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: anyway, better backpedal to tech [12:12] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It seems old people are the only group the government is interested in doing any favors for. [12:12] DaemonFC The rest are to be mercilessly exploited and strip mined of all of their earnings potential until the day they turn 67. [12:13] DaemonFC I've heard one possible explanation for this. [12:13] DaemonFC Blacks don't tend to turn 67..... [12:13] techrights-news "I dont understand how a lack of #patent protection would work in some parts of the economy, pharmaceuticals for example. Prices are inflated. Okay, what were the incentives for these companies to extend large amounts of capital? Okay, well, I think I know where youre going. Ive heard this." https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol022b-libertarian-legal-theory-5b-qa-2011/ [12:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL022b | Libertarian Legal Theory: Property, Conflict, and Society, Lecture 5b: Q&A (Mises Academy, 2011) [12:14] DaemonFC The way Social Security is set up, you throw money into a pit not knowing if you'll live to get a single red cent back out of it. [12:14] DaemonFC My aunt died in a car accident after paying Social Security tax for 40 years. [12:14] DaemonFC Nobody gets to have that back. [12:15] DaemonFC Then politicians squander most of it by diverting it into lost wars and pork spending. [12:16] techrights-news Another new referral to rigged and corrupted court that is basically ruled by gangsters who shamelessly break all the laws http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/new-referral-to-eba-on-use-of-post.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | New referral expected to the EBA on the use of post-published data to support inventive step - The IPKat [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [12:16] DaemonFC Then say, "Welp, you need to wait until you're 70 now!". [12:16] DaemonFC There's a reason they'll never "shut down" Social Security. [12:16] DaemonFC You can always lie about people living longer and the "need" to make them wait longer to claim it. [12:16] DaemonFC Meanwhile, you just rip them blind and divert all of it to other stuff. [12:17] DaemonFC I imagine this goes on in your country too, yes? [12:17] DaemonFC Even Germany does it. [12:18] DaemonFC My grandparents got a fantastic deal from Social Security. They claimed it at 65 because the government said people would only live to be about 67, then my grandfather lived to be 72 and my grandmother is almost 90 now and still alive. [12:18] DaemonFC The government is all wise, all knowing, and all perfect. [12:19] DaemonFC Now the scales have to be balanced because they were off by a couple of decades. Whoops. [12:19] DaemonFC They say Social Security has actuaries, but what it actually had were meddling politicians with clown makeup running it that wanted votes. [12:20] DaemonFC Insurance companies have actuaries, and none of them would or could fuck things up this bad. [12:20] techrights-news The #UPC does not even exist but the #propagandamill of the #EPO , bribed by EPO to promote UPC nonsense, uses #Monsanto / #Bayer as a source. This is corrupt 'media'. https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/pharma-should-make-good-use-of-the-upc-the-beginning-says-bayers-head-of-ip http://techrights.org/2020/03/08/iam-campinos-interview/ [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Pharma should make good use of the UPC from the beginning, says Bayers head of IP | IAM [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM Works (Lies) for Corrupt EPO Management and for Team UPC, Now Behind Paywalls (Possibly to Limit Critics Access, Lowering Scrutiny and Fact-Checking) | Techrights [12:22] techrights-news #Patent #litigation profiteer and #softwarepatents zealot #MichaelBorella (not a coder) is still attacking anything that evokes common sense; some people think all the world needs is more #lawsuits https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/on-the-nature-of-prior-art-in-the-35-usc-101-inquiry.html [12:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: On the Nature of Prior Art in the 35 U.S.C. 101 Inquiry [12:24] techrights-news IAM as megaphone of people who corrupted courts (subverted the law consciously) just to attract more #litigation 'business' https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/albright-interview-august-2021-motions-transfer http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | I have heard what the Federal Circuit has to say on motions to transfer, says WDTX's Albright | IAM [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [12:27] techrights-news #analyticsindiamag in totally and utterly clueless cheerleading for bot #patents , clearly failing to grasp what a blow it is to the very legitimacy of the whole #patent system and the narrative it has been pushing https://analyticsindiamag.com/in-a-first-an-invention-by-ai-granted-a-patent/ [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | In A First, An Invention By AI Granted A Patent [12:28] schestowitz "Whatever the final outcome, as a prospect looking for IP representation I would take note of the publically shared litany of intrinsic errors in their case management processes that allowed this to happen. I would also give them a wide berth, even 8 years down the line. If Carpmaels survive the outcome, this is a still a PR disaster for them and their business. " [12:28] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/carpmaels-ransford-sued-for-missed.html?showComment=1627559674790#c8878904934436857556 [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Carpmaels & Ransford sued for missed appeal deadline - The IPKat [12:29] techrights-news "I would also give them a wide berth, even 8 years down the line. If Carpmaels survive the outcome, this is a still a PR disaster for them and their business." #patent #patents #epo http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/carpmaels-ransford-sued-for-missed.html?showComment=1627559674790#c8878904934436857556 [12:31] techrights-news Can we please stop calling everything "Hey Hi"? This buzzwords theatre is getting out of hand... https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f00605ba-cf14-45d1-855e-2f9c68dc617b [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vietnam: Trouble arises in legal documents on intellectual property rights related to AI - Lexology [12:33] techrights-news Media should stop repeating #teamUPC lies. #UPC is doomed. No, it is not for #Germany to decide on it; #UK left the EU, so this is doomed legally [12:36] techrights-news #Nokia still made products, based on #Linux , before criminals from #Microsoft infiltrated the company like an aggressive #cult and turned Nokia into this zombie https://www.phonearena.com/news/nokia-lawsuit-oppo-patent-infringement_id133504 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Nokia [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nokia suing Oppo over patent infringement in several countries - PhoneArena [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nokia - Techrights [12:38] techrights-news Those same misnomers again... a misleading and meaningless propaganda term rather than substantial things like laws https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/uic-law-virtual-seminar-on-mediation-and-arbitration-in-intellectual-property-disputes.html [12:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: UIC Law Virtual Seminar on Mediation and Arbitration in Intellectual Property Disputes [12:40] techrights-news Craig Thompson at #watchtroll now admits that #swpats suck and do a lot of harm in an article, " #HEVC Royalty Stacking and Uncertainty Threaten VVC Adoption"... see http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HEVC Cartel is Not News, Only the Names of Backers and the Costs Are New | Techrights [12:43] techrights-news "Almost all strings in Apps for #GNOME are translatable now. You can check the apps-for-gnome module translation status over at Damned Lies. Be aware, that all app-specific strings will not appear in the apps-for-gnome module!" https://blogs.gnome.org/sophieh/2021/08/15/apps-for-gnome-on-its-mark/ [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Get set: Apps for GNOME on its mark Sophie's Blog [12:43] techrights-news Mike Gabriel: Chromium Policies Managed under Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154523 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mike Gabriel: Chromium Policies Managed under Linux | Tux Machines [12:49] techrights-news #Games: Proton, OpenRazer, Valve http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154522 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton, OpenRazer, Valve | Tux Machines [12:59] techrights-news "The unwarranted complete destruction of our economy and multiple deaths of innocent people in KZN and parts of Gauteng points to an ANC that has no regard for the welfare of our nation." https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/opinion/letters/2021-08-13-sa-must-dump-failed-marxist-ideas/ [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sowetanlive.co.za | SA must dump failed Marxist ideas ● Aug 15 [13:00] techrights-news Funny how people interject "Marxism" into everything they do not like, including equality [13:03] techrights-news Poor gentoos https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/08/weather/antarctica-climate-change-cnnphotos/ [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Antarctica is changing. The impact could be catastrophic [13:05] techrights-news By all means, do not miss the irony of #cnn warning us about #climatechange while at the same time hailing as a hero the world's MOST POLLUTING person while occassionally #greemwashing him for his #GMO #monopolies drive. Yes, this guy: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [13:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [13:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 83.36 swarm size (avg): 272.26 [13:08] techrights-news Naughty "GPL"... doing drugs https://www.law360.com/whitecollar/articles/1412625/sec-says-hemp-co-pe-firm-reaped-11m-through-scalping [13:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SEC Says Hemp Co., PE Firm Reaped $11M Through Scalping - Law360 [13:14] techrights-news livescore-cli is now broken and no patch since my birthday, so I don't suppose they intend to fix it or #deletegithub ... I am guessing the data source has 'moved' the goalposts, so the program became useless again [13:16] techrights-news Someone ought to make a gemini capsule with live football scores and tables. That oughtn't be hard to accomplish with a little scraping. Maybe I'll have a go at it myself some quiet weekend... [13:17] techrights-news "Example: When I was on windows 10 I used notepad and now that I am on Linux mint I use xed to write the actual page content of my capsules." People moving to #gnu #linux https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006996.html [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Discussion][Workflow] What do you use to write and upload to your capsules? [13:18] techrights-news "I keep my capsule in a bare git repository on the Raspberry Pi from which I serve it. I can also SSH into the Pi from outside my home network, so I can clone, pull from, and push to the repository using any device with git (I use Termux for this on my phone)" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007002.html [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [Discussion][Workflow] What do you use to write and [13:19] schestowitz https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007007.html [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 9 [13:19] schestowitz " [13:19] schestowitz Ive only just begun my foray into Gemini so im interested to see other [13:19] schestowitz workflows. Im currently writing my capsules (as with most everything else) [13:19] schestowitz in emacs and uploading via tramp. Ive been writing a very simple and [13:19] schestowitz probably unnecessary static site generator for table of contents and [13:19] schestowitz header/footer generation. I have an old T60 with 9front on it that I intend [13:19] schestowitz to use soon writing with acme [13:19] schestowitz " [13:22] techrights-news One important search engine for #geminiSpace called gus.guru has died and it is dead for months now, so I don't suppose it's coming back. Alternatives in gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/ [13:27] techrights-news Congrats to "European Patent Office (EPO)" for making it into the "shitlist" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~kasper/shitlist.gmi #epo #patents #europe #corruptopn [13:29] schestowitz livescore-cli seems like abandonare [13:30] schestowitz needs to be forked Congrats to "European Patent Office (EPO)" for making it into the "shitlist" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~kasper/shitlist.gmi #epo #patents #europe #corruptopn [13:30] schestowitz oops, wrong url [13:30] schestowitz needs to be forked https://github.com/codeezer/livescore-cli/issues/14 [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Traceback when trying to run livescore Issue #14 codeezer/livescore-cli GitHub [13:30] schestowitz if anyone fancies some python programming [13:30] schestowitz I saw the code, it's not pretty [13:35] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows in action https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/bork/ [13:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Come fly with me. But first we need to find a boot device The Register [13:36] techrights-news #ibm once made things of actual value https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/12/ibm_pc_40_anniversary/ [13:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Beige Against the Machine: The IBM PC turns 40 The Register [13:38] techrights-news #Accenture : BUY #Microsoft ! Ohhhh, crap!! https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/12/accenture_lockbit_ransomware/ [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Lockbit ransomware attack didn't affect ops, claims Accenture amid lurid payoff rumours The Register [13:38] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:40] techrights-news Senate for banksters, bailing out rogue banks, but... https://www.coindesk.com/against-the-us-senates-heavy-handed-crypto-provision #bribery -led policy [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Against the US Senates Extreme Crypto Provision | CoinDesk - CoinDesk [13:43] techrights-news #microsoftTim on #Elasticsearch https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/elasticsearch_python_client_change/ and you know they don't give a damn when they use #proprietarysoftware of thugs from #Microsoft to manage their code, basically choosing a #monopoly of #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Elastic amends Elasticsearch Python client so it won't work with forks then blocks comments The Register [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights [13:45] techrights-news But #apple works for the government already, e.g. NSA PRISM https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/apple_csam_faq/ [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple responds to critics of CSAM scan plan with FAQs, says it'd block governments subverting its system The Register [13:47] techrights-news When it comes to "Open Source" projects, you know they don't give a damn (e.g. about #softwarefreedom ) when they use #proprietarysoftware of thugs from Microsoft to manage their code. #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [13:51] *spazzz is now known as spazz [13:51] *i\o has quit (Changing host) [13:51] *i\o (trttl@user/io/x-8562675) has joined #techrights [13:52] *i\o is now known as citoyen [13:52] techrights-news "Is everyone else seeing a mass exodus of colleagues? I work in C&CS and every week I see someone leave. I hope it gets bad enough where even AK realizes its going downhill" #ibm #layoffs #exodus https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Mass exodus - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:52] techrights-news "I gave notice this past week ... it's not even the money ... I just couldn't take the toxic work environment at #IBM anymore." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L [13:54] techrights-news #ibm to workers: PAPERS, PLEASE https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ibm-allow-only-fully-vaccinated-223506073.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | IBM to allow only fully vaccinated to return to U.S. offices from September 7 [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights [13:56] techrights-news "Seeing the widespread stupidity of my anti-vax colleagues, not to mention the upvotes they get, I no longer wonder why #IBM is circling the drain." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckezhiq#comment_form [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM to allow only fully vaccinated to return to U.S. offices from September 7 - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:57] techrights-news #ibm looking to PROFIT from #covid19 by removing #humanrights https://thepointsguy.com/news/ibm-digital-health-pass/ see http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [13:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thepointsguy.com | 4 things to know about the IBM Digital Health Pass [13:58] techrights-news "There is no innovation at #IBM anymore... you are at the wrong company. Not to mention that you will most likely get laid off at some point!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cjGibRU [13:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The excitement is gone - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:59] DaemonFC https://politicalwire.com/2021/08/15/taliban-enters-kabul/ [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalwire.com | Taliban Enters Kabul [13:59] techrights-news " #Ibm will soon have to beg for people to come work here if they don't fix their idiotic pay structure." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L#replies [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Mass exodus - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:59] DaemonFC Took them a week. [13:59] DaemonFC There was absolutely no will by the "National Army" to fight them, at all, for anything. ● Aug 15 [14:00] DaemonFC Probably today or tomorrow, definitely sometime this week, the Taliban will execute the "President" of Afghanistan. [14:00] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: very far off topic [14:00] DaemonFC President of a few city blocks at this point. [14:00] schestowitz-TR let's return to tech [14:01] techrights-news "When I started in #IBM in the eighties, it was the largest company in the world by market cap. Now it is only a fraction the size of number 100 in that list. I think, it is soon over. Somebody will take IBM out of it's misery, on way or the other." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cjV9dxS#replies [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBMs Fall From World Dominance - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:03] techrights-news Well, it is widely known (and proven) by now that the Enlarged Board of Appeal (EBA) of the #EPO is a rigged court ruled by criminals from the Office, not #judges https://www.frkelly.com/library/double-patenting see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Double Patenting | FRKelly [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [14:04] psydruid IBM is a low-quality company producing low-quality IT solutions [14:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:05] techrights-news #uk : "Over time there has been an increasing tendency to pursue #patent protection in #China and in the USA. There has been a decline in the number of applications published in Japan." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/analysing-the-global-filing-activities-of-uk-patent-applicants [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Analysing the global filing activities of UK patent applicants - GOV.UK [14:05] psydruid now I'm looking forward even more to plastering this all over the internet [14:06] psydruid it brings out the worst in boosters of such companies [14:06] techrights-news "UK-based applicants use the IPO more than the EPO" https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-changing-profile-of-users-of-the-uk-patent-system #EPO is #corruption http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The changing profile of users of the UK patent system - GOV.UK [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [14:07] techrights-news "This month, Chinese government authorities and courts announced new measures to implement the patent linkage system, a key feature of the new Patent Law. They specified the rules for challenging the marketing authorisation of a patented drug both at the administrative and judicial levels." https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/china-ip-newsletter/china-ip-newsletter-july-2021 [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China IP Newsletter (July 2021) - GOV.UK [14:07] psydruid remember children, don't use EPO [14:08] schestowitz-TR psydruid: IBM was not always this bad [14:08] schestowitz-TR they used to have high reputation [14:08] schestowitz-TR now they can barely hire [14:08] schestowitz The Eleventh Circuit affirmed the decision of a federal district court in Florida granting EWC P&T LLC summary judgment in its action for violation of the Anti-Cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act against an individual who registered the domain names europawaxcenter.com and euwaxcenter.com. EWC P&T LLC runs the nationwide beauty brand European Wax Center and holds the trademark European Wax Center. https://news. [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: news; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://news ) [14:08] schestowitz bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/case-trademarks-summary-judgment-11th-cir-2 [14:09] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [14:09] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:09] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:11] DaemonFC https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/14/us/covid-vaccine-third-shot-booster.html [14:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | U.S. Preparing Plan to Offer Vaccine Boosters, Perhaps By Fall - The New York Times [14:12] DaemonFC The US underestimated the extent of anti-vaccine movements and bought so many doses that we're doing boosters now without actually knowing if they're safe, effective, or even necessary. [14:12] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21384393 [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "That's enough to vaccinate half the world each year. Of course, other countries should make #vaccine factories too." But #patent #monopolies prevent that. #patents #monopoly https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#14_August_2021_(RNA_vaccine_expansion) [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:13] superkuh The correct booster to follow intramuscular would be an intranasal. [14:13] DaemonFC Theoretically if you are going to do boosters, you'd give them to old people. [14:13] superkuh Doing another intramuscular will, again, help hospitalization, but it won't stop the spread. [14:13] schestowitz DaemonFC: the "world's lab" may be going back into lockdown next month [14:13] DaemonFC Their immunity to things tends to wear off faster. [14:13] schestowitz and already doing a round of third shot [14:14] superkuh http://superkuh.com/blog/2021-07-27-1.html [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superkuh.com | NO TITLE [14:14] schestowitz the experiment failed to impress for long... [14:14] schestowitz DaemonFC: old people or front liners [14:14] schestowitz or both [14:14] schestowitz "world's lab" wants to force it on everyone [14:14] schestowitz the third one [14:14] schestowitz even after less than 5 months [14:15] DaemonFC "The U.S. is now averaging about 650 deaths a day, increasing more than 80 percent from two weeks ago and going past the 600 mark on Saturday for the first time in three months." [14:15] DaemonFC https://politicalwire.com/2021/08/15/u-s-pandemic-death-toll-rises-again/ [14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalwire.com | U.S. Pandemic Death Toll Rises Again [14:16] superkuh Imagine if there were no vaccinations at all. At this point with delta, etc, we'd really be fucked. [14:16] DaemonFC Eh, shitter's full. [14:16] techrights-news "There are only 7 intranasal sars-cov-2 vaccinations undergoing early phase 1/2 trials right now and of them only 2 are using a sane design" http://superkuh.com/blog/2021-07-27-1.html [14:17] DaemonFC At this point, the only people dying really didn't get the vaccine and said "My body has an immune system! I'm healthy!". [14:17] DaemonFC They've convinced my mom that the vaccine either isn't safe or doesn't work, or both. [14:18] DaemonFC So she's not going to take it. [14:18] superkuh Mostly. But 5% (ie, 95% protective) of 350 million is 17,500,000. [14:18] DaemonFC Hopefully she's not the next one stuffed into the broom closet of a makeshift COVID ward. [14:18] DaemonFC Indiana hospitals are doing that now. [14:18] schestowitz [14:17] At this point, the only people dying really didn't get the vaccine and said "My body has an immune system! I'm healthy!". [14:18] schestowitz this is false [14:18] schestowitz most UK deaths are fully vaccinated afaik [14:18] schestowitz but they don't give full data on this [14:18] superkuh Most people in the UK are fully vaccinated. [14:19] schestowitz so you rely on what hospital staff says [14:19] DaemonFC The US never authorized the AZ vaccine. [14:19] DaemonFC Said it wasn't good enough to use. [14:19] schestowitz but that's because it's mostly elderly people [14:19] DaemonFC So the UK sent it out because it's what they have. [14:19] DaemonFC And now "vaccinated" people die. [14:20] schestowitz because of their age [14:20] DaemonFC Because they got something that was 57% effective against original COVID and that was before we have god only knows what going around now. [14:20] schestowitz in their age group the vaccination rates are high [14:20] schestowitz anyway, back to tech :-) [14:20] DaemonFC 57% to begin with is bad, but then it mutates and nobody knows. [14:21] DaemonFC I remember that ClamWin antivirus program everyone was laughing at. [14:21] DaemonFC It had a detection rate of about that much in known malware samples. [14:22] DaemonFC I had it installed anyway because it didn't do automatic scanning. I just asked it for a second opinion sometimes. [14:22] schestowitz my computer is vaccinated [14:22] schestowitz it doesn't have Windows [14:22] schestowitz or proprietary software [14:22] schestowitz Buster repos only allowed [14:22] DaemonFC They could still compile something nasty and slip it in. [14:23] schestowitz we need to try to move more people to gemini:// [14:23] schestowitz DaemonFC: what gemini client do you like? [14:23] DaemonFC Or install a firmware that opens up a vulnerability, but your computer won't work without it. [14:23] schestowitz firmware is another can of worms a [14:23] DaemonFC lagrange seems to work fine. [14:23] schestowitz and its harms are relatively smaller [14:23] schestowitz though it is harder to avoid [14:23] schestowitz DaemonFC: same here [14:24] schestowitz white or deny theme? [14:24] schestowitz I changed to white [14:24] schestowitz didn't like the default deny tones [14:24] DaemonFC Well, I set my Windows theme to deny. [14:24] schestowitz they say it "saves energy" [14:24] DaemonFC But some applications are allow anyway, because they aren't modern enough to be covered by the deny theme. [14:24] schestowitz but the energy is mostly spent on other things [14:24] schestowitz even for mobile devices [14:27] techrights-news "In 2019, nearly 14 000 patent applications were filed with the European Patent Office (EPO)" so that's just monopolies that mostly prevent progress and competition -- i.e. something not to be celebrated. https://investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com/investing/pandemic-provokes-acceleration-of-healthcare-innovation/ [14:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com | Pandemic provokes acceleration of healthcare innovation - Investors' Corner [14:29] techrights-news #EPO keeps interjecting itself into #greenwashing campaigns as if yet more #patent #monopolies will somehow save the planet; also EVs aren't the solution, just a "lesser evil" https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/no-turning-back-from-evs-2021-08-09 [14:31] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:33] techrights-news " #DABUS (which stands for device for the autonomous bootstrapping of unified sentience) is an AI system created by Stephen Thaler, a pioneer in the field of AI and programming." #patents for bots will not advance anything, they just make a mockery of the #patent system and judges got 'rick-rolled' https://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital/meet-dabus-the-worlds-first-ai-system-to-be-awarded-a-patent/85149000 [14:34] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:34] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [14:36] techrights-news "The Berlin startup builds technology specifically designed to accelerate open-source RDBMS PostgreSQL in particular its analytical performance as co-founder and CEO Thomas Richter told The Register last year." https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/12/servicenow_adds_to_acquistion_spree/ [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Where's the nearest exit? ServiceNow continues on acquisition spree with interior mapping startup Mapwize The Register [14:37] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia and crims https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/weibo_pr_director_arrested/ [14:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | PR director at Chinese Twitter analogue Weibo detained on bribery and fraud charges The Register [14:39] techrights-news "I've said this before, but if Market Share is an important metric, then they must target corporate demands" https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/08/11/firefox_91/ [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.theregister.com | Firefox 91 introduces cookie clearing, clutter-free printing, Microsoft single sign-on... so where are all the users? The Register Forums [14:40] techrights-news "I think #Firefox should do a bold move and include Ad Blocker enabled by default. Millions of people will suddenly start to feel their computers work better and they'll stop being distracted by manipulative ads trying to sell them things they don't want or need." https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/08/11/firefox_91/ [14:41] techrights-news A choice between #Surveillance Empires? Choose #freesw for better #taiwan autonomy. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/12/taiwan_president_interview/ [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Taiwan president pokes the bear by saying the nation needs to lessen its supply chain dependency on China The Register [14:46] techrights-news No, they are not. Two foolish or gullible jurisdictions have foolishly decided to accept that bots are "inventors" but large #patent offices rejected this lunacy https://www.ensafrica.com/news/detail/4616/patents-inventors-can-be-inhuman [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ENSafrica - News - Patents: inventors can be inhuman [14:48] techrights-news #Australia #courts have basically made themselves look utterly foolish, but the #patent #litigation giants love it; more frivolous lawsuits and Invalid #Patents (IPs) https://www.mondaq.com/australia/patent/1099574/australian-federal-court-says-an-ai-can-be-the-inventor [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Australian Federal Court Says An AI Can Be The Inventor - Intellectual Property - Australia [14:50] techrights-news All this "Hey Hi" hype is unmasking #patent #law firms as nothing but opportunists who reject #science and invention; they just want lots of lousy #patents for a chaotic state of affairs (lawsuits). 2.0?? Whaaa?? https://www.minterellison.com/articles/patents-in-the-age-of-ai [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eInventor 2.0 Patents in the age of AI - Post - MinterEllison [14:51] techrights-news Can my dog also apply for a #patent in #southAfrica and #australia and if not, why not? [14:55] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #fun https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/756695/pc-getting-hard-freezes-after-part-upgrades-no-bsod/ [14:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | PC getting hard freezes after part upgrades, no BSOD - Windows Crashes and Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Help and Support [14:57] techrights-news "The Open Library Foundation is a community of open source projects. Tom Cramer, Associate University Librarian and Director of Digital Library Systems and Services at Stanford University, is the President of the Open Library Foundation Board." http://www.itnewsonline.com/PRNewswire/The-Open-Library-Foundation-Adds-Three-Board-Members/775826 [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnewsonline.com | The Open Library Foundation Adds Three Board Members [14:59] techrights-news Did the sheep consent to being monopolised by their butcherers, based on their place of death? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/gower-peninsula-lamb-flies-flag-for.html [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Gower Peninsula lamb flies the flag for Britain as the first new product to be registered under the post-Brexit GI scheme - The IPKat [14:59] psydruid https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-real-motivation-behind-systemd.html [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unixsheikh.com | The real motivation behind systemd ● Aug 15 [15:01] techrights-news "The 1836 #Patent Act added the caveat that no #patents should issue on an invention previously described in any printed publication. That language has carried through the various major patent #law overhauls" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/publication-documents-available.html [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Printed Publication: Documents Made Available only to Customers | Patently-O [15:02] schestowitz-TR psydruid: written and updated ages ago [15:02] schestowitz-TR did some place link to it [15:02] schestowitz-TR originally written before IBM took over [15:03] schestowitz-TR "my problem with systemd today is that it has turned into a kind of Trojan horse. It is an attempt by Red Hat to change the world of Linux in order to better serve their corporate interests." [15:03] schestowitz-TR https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-real-motivation-behind-systemd.html [15:03] psydruid schestowitz-TR, in another chat, it's nothing new to us [15:05] techrights-news When #microsoft #outlook and #exchange cause lost mail (which is a lot of the time) https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/08/inbound-important-technology.html [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Inbound Important Emails that go Unread due to Technology Fails: Another Case | Patently-O [15:07] techrights-news #GNU Health: #GNUHealth emergency response in #Haiti https://meanmicio.org/2021/08/15/gnu-health-emergency-response-in-haiti/ #freesw [15:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meanmicio.org | GNU Health emergency response in Haiti | MeanMicio [15:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 79.46 swarm size (avg): 272.23 [15:09] DaemonFC MinceR, Scott Adams (Dilbert) makes an appearance in B5. [15:09] DaemonFC He hires Mr. Garibaldi to find his megalomaniacal dog and cat who are plotting to take over the galaxy. [15:11] techrights-news #Grep 3.7 Released To Fix "Extreme Performance Degradation" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154506#comment-30562 [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | grep-3.7 released | Tux Machines [15:12] techrights-news "Ready to party and play some rather silly games? The Humble Jackbox Summer Party Bundle went up and it has good #GNU #Linux support for the big packs and a few of the standalone games too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/the-humble-jackbox-summer-party-bundle-is-live [15:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Humble Jackbox Summer Party Bundle is live | GamingOnLinux [15:13] techrights-news What domain name to use for your home network https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/homenet-domain-name.html [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | What domain name to use for your home network [15:15] MinceR DaemonFC: lol [15:21] techrights-news #Kraft Version 0.97 https://tagfrei.wordpress.com/2021/08/15/kraft-version-0-97/ #kde #freesw [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tagfrei.wordpress.com | Kraft Version 0.97 | Mach den Bro-Tag frei(er) mit freier Software [15:23] techrights-news how to #OpenSource #weather forecast in #privacy respecting ways that actually work! :) 100% Open Source #Android Weather App https://dwaves.de/2021/08/15/how-to-open-source-weather-forecast-in-privacy-respecting-ways-that-actually-work-100-open-source-android-weather-app/ [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- how to Open Source weather forecast in privacy respecting ways that actually work! :) 100% Open Source Android Weather App | dwaves.de [15:39] techrights-news False dichotomy as both companies attack #privacy https://www.thestreet.com/tech/news/appleprivacyjdm081021 [15:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com | Buy Google Stock as Apple Privacy Shtick Bombs - Markman on Tech [15:41] techrights-news WTH? https://www.telegraphindia.com/health/free-thai-herbal-therapeutic-teas-soon-in-india-to-help-with-the-coming-covid-19-surge/cid/1825882 [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraphindia.com | Free Thai Herbal Therapeutic Teas Soon In India To Help With The Coming COVID-19 Surge - Telegraph India [15:42] techrights-news #Google 'contemplated buying some or all of Epic' https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/google_vs_epic_games/ [15:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The sideloader weeps tonight: Unsealed court docs claim Google said 'install friction' would drastically limit' Epic's reach The Register [15:46] techrights-news You know what they say... small dick, big yacht. This #microsoft co-founder was a parasite just like #billgates https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/paul_allen_yacht/ also a #patentTroll http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interval [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | You can now live life like Paul Allen on Microsoft cofounder's luxury yacht for '1m a week' The Register [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Interval - Techrights [15:48] techrights-news "Hearts of Athletes is seeking to enroll athletes both with and without COVID-19. The goal of the study is to identify the prevalence of myocarditis, a type of heart inflammation found among some patients dealing with COVID-19" https://www.sporttechie.com/duke-university-to-study-covid-19-impact-on-athlete-health [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sporttechie.com | Duke University to Study COVID-19s Impact on Athlete Health [15:52] techrights-news War on anonymous payments https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-senate-infrastructure-bill-passed-170840524.html https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/us_cryptocurrency_regulations/ [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | The US Senates infrastructure bill passed with a privacy problem for crypto [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | US senators reach last-minute compromise on cryptocurrency regulations as infrastructure bill vote looms The Register [15:53] techrights-news Media that helps promote the lie that only pedophiles need #privacy https://www.vox.com/recode/2021/8/10/22617196/apple-ios15-photo-messages-scanned [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Apples iOS 15 will scan iPhone photos and messages - Vox [15:56] XRevan86 FBI, open up! We're only making a routine check on illegal materials in every home, sorry for any inconvenience. [15:56] *CrystalMath (~coderain@545c5sgzzu4s6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:56] *schestowitz-TR opens door [15:57] schestowitz-TR "just don't open my medicine cabinet" [15:57] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:58] *XRevan86 takes all suspicious capsules from the medicine cabinet for inspection. [15:59] techrights-news "There's an evolution in charger technology going on right now; gallium nitride (GaN) technology promises smaller and more efficient chargers than the older all-silicon designs." http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-08-15-15-57_baseus_65w_usb_charger.html Speaking of GaN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Shane_Todd [15:59] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Death of Shane Todd - Wikipedia [15:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://youtu.be/NehCz5yt64A [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- - , , .avi - YouTube ● Aug 15 [16:00] techrights-news #china #singapore and the #us ... or what seems like #assassination that nobody wants to admit or talk about https://www.justice4shanetodd.com/ [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justice4shanetodd.com | Shane Todd Murder [16:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] techrights-news "Although the SPF confiscated Dr. Todds two computers, his cell phone, and his diary, his parents found Shanes external hard drive in his Singapore apartment which led them to believe Shane was murdered." #singapore #china #sg #cn https://www.justice4shanetodd.com/ [16:02] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: what does that say? [16:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: "it's all clear: heroin, marijuana, crack" [16:03] techrights-news Not too shockingly, #microsoft propaganist Lawrence Abrams is now promoting #wsl which reaffirms the position #wsl2 eta. ARE ATTACKS on #gnu #linux ... just look who's promoting it! [16:05] techrights-news Thankfully, however, #wsl and #wsl2 are dying. Even the staff has moved on. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ #vista10 #microrosoft #antiLinux [16:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights [16:06] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: next up: home "smart" meters with "sniff" sensors [16:06] schestowitz-TR just in case... for your own protection [16:06] schestowitz-TR after they add microphones to these [16:06] schestowitz-TR to optimise energy or something... [16:06] schestowitz-TR and cameras too [16:06] schestowitz-TR to know if you're home [16:06] schestowitz-TR to "lower your bills" [16:13] techrights-news Wrong question. Should coders manage? The answer is yes, as managers need to be technical though they're hard to find in companies like #IBM that favour MBAs over actual talent. https://www.redhat.com/en/compiler-podcast/should-managers-code [16:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Compiler: Should Managers Code? [16:15] techrights-news "nothing against new grads but lot of teams using #ibm tools/technology has ramp up time of 1-2 years for example. It doesn't make sense to not give experienced people who are more productive atleast same amount of money as new grads." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L#replies [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Mass exodus - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:17] techrights-news "Sound like the same people pushing the #IBM tools that dont work on everyone." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckezhiq#replies [16:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM to allow only fully vaccinated to return to U.S. offices from September 7 - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:18] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Nope, no one's "executing" Afghanistan's president, because he ran away. [16:19] DaemonFC Oh wow. He fled. LOL. [16:19] DaemonFC Probably be coming here, I suppose. [16:19] DaemonFC Shows what this "government" was all along, as if there was any doubt. [16:20] techrights-news So-called 'security' and so-called 'intellectual property' https://www.seattletimes.com/business/technology/apple-drops-intellectual-property-lawsuit-against-maker-of-security-tools/ [16:20] XRevan86 He resigned, transitioned power to a "provisional government" and fled. [16:22] techrights-news So-called "safety of the community." Strikes again... https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/perl_foundation_cat_hiatus/ [16:22] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:23] techrights-news Those who attacked the #FSF over alleged "safety" were referring to the risk of -- OH MY GOD!! -- RMS interrupting someone to correct that someone. 'Safety'... [16:23] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Well, that action at the end I'd consider sensible, because there was no reason for him to kill himself staying. [16:24] XRevan86 Accomplishing nothing as Taliban's already won at this point. [16:24] techrights-news Artsy or pseudo-scientific elements in #trademark #law https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/survey-evidence-in-trademark-proceedings [16:26] XRevan86 But also: enjoy the fruits of having a dysfunctional corrupt army. [16:27] techrights-news A chain of meaningless buzzwords like #HeyHi and "Life Sciences" to justify #monopolies for mere bots https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/artificial-intelligence-as-the-inventor-4642300/ see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/ [16:28] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [16:37] techrights-news "A year and a half ago, a small biotech launched out of Laval, Quebec to one-up beta blockers for the treatment of a rare heart condition that often goes undiagnosed." https://endpts.com/a-canadian-startup-refuels-to-take-on-a-rare-cardiac-condition-that-many-patients-dont-realize-they-have/ [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-endpts.com | A Canadian startup refuels to take on a rare cardiac condition that many patients dont realize they have Endpoints News [16:38] XRevan86 https://twitter.com/credlandaudio/status/1426894034187001861 another person trying to contact "freenodestaff" on Twatter. The navet. [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@credlandaudio: @freenodestaff - hey folks - you've changed something and it's now impossible to work out how to connect to freenod https://t.co/bmBCjmpWiR [16:39] techrights-news #openwashing of #Autodesk #proprietarySoftware https://www.shootonline.com/node/89469 [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HPA Engineering Excellence recipients include Arch Platform, Autodesk, The Foundry, Mo-Sys Engineering | SHOOTonline [16:40] XRevan86 Ariadne: As a person that never used the platform, the Follow button looking like it's actionable look more intuitive to me. [16:40] Ariadne XRevan86: both should be actionable [16:40] XRevan86 Ariadne: Well, they are, but it makes sense to me, that "Following" looks more passive. [16:41] techrights-news #joomla sued over nonsense https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/365891/american-airlines-sues-software-provider-web-host.html [16:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mediapost.com | American Airlines Sues Software Provider, Web Host Over Phishing Site 08/12/2021 [16:41] CrystalMath shouldn't it be joseonstaff? [16:42] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I don't think it's possible to change that. [16:43] CrystalMath they could make a new account [16:43] CrystalMath a new beginning, a new genesis [16:43] schestowitz-TR juche [16:43] schestowitz-TR or year zero [16:43] XRevan86 CrystalMath: They abandoned this one, do ye think they want another one? [16:43] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_zero [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Year zero - Wikipedia [16:45] techrights-news P-C police https://whnt.com/video/team-usa-paintballer-fired-for-%E2%80%98fat-shaming%E2%80%99-teen-hospitalized-with-covid-19/6882162/ [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Team USA paintballer fired for fat-shaming teen hospitalized with COVID-19 WHNT.com [16:49] techrights-news #apple is no partner. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/10/apple-drops-corellium-lawsuit/ [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Apple drops lawsuit against Corellium in confidential settlement - The Washington Post [16:51] techrights-news Several times in one day #CBS was #openwashing #Facebook for some utterly useless code that wouldn't even be mentioned if it weren't for grip on the media https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/facebook-shares-its-time-card-atomic-clock-tech-to-speed-internet-services/ [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook shares its Time Card atomic clock tech to speed internet services - CNET [16:51] CrystalMath XRevan86: perhaps not [16:53] techrights-news "The visceral pushback to Sen. Rob Portman's reporting requirements isn't about avoiding taxes it's about protecting digital liberties." https://www.coindesk.com/congresss-misstep-on-crypto-reporting-surveillance-free-speech [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Crypto Tax Fight Is About Free Speech | David Z. Morris - CoinDesk [16:54] CrystalMath XRevan86: hmm, not quite up to date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode [16:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freenode - Wikipedia [16:54] CrystalMath they say "was an IRC network" but also "are accessible", also it should mention joseon.kr [16:54] Ariadne which flavor of flavor-aid will andrew be using for the revolutionary suicide? [16:54] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's hard to adapt a decades-old article on something that changed it nature completely. [16:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:56] CrystalMath schestowitz: interesting, in the talk page for this article, they are discussing using techrights.org as a source to fix the article [16:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:56] CrystalMath so they're debating techrights.org validity [16:56] techrights-news Patents were never meant to be for bots, so this is a humiliation for the patent systems and patent courts in two less important countries https://thenextweb.com/news/backlash-against-grant-patent-to-ai-system-syndication [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Backlash grows against decision to grant patent to AI system [16:56] CrystalMath it would be nice if wikipedia accepted techrights.org citations [16:58] techrights-news No, they always help their own business and would even lie to clients (e.g. about #UPC ) just to enable more invoicing on #patent disservices https://www.eip.com/us/updates/article/ask_the_experts_can_a_patent_attorney_help_your_business [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ask the Experts: Can a patent attorney help your business?, EIP | Patent Attorneys and Litigators [16:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] XRevan86 > For all we know there is a bug that Freenode is working to fix, and the network will settle on some (admittedly odd) form of login and return to whatever form it's in these days. [16:59] XRevan86 Cute. ● Aug 15 [17:00] CrystalMath wishful thinking [17:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:00] techrights-news Calling bots "Hey Hi" to exaggerate the importance of some computer programs and make them seem worthy of #monopolies https://lifesciences.dlapiper.com/post/102h4gq/australian-court-determines-that-an-artificial-intelligence-system-can-be-an-inve #patents #patent [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifesciences.dlapiper.com | Australian Court determines that an Artificial Intelligence system can be an inventor for the purposes of patent law, Nicholas Tyacke, Alexandra de Zwart [17:01] XRevan86 Anyway, I understand Wikipedia's troubles, it's hard to classify all this. [17:01] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: wikileaks is gamed by corporations and their army of PR firms [17:02] schestowitz-TR to which we're no friends [17:02] schestowitz-TR oops [17:02] schestowitz-TR I means wikipedia [17:02] schestowitz-TR *meant [17:02] schestowitz crap like this http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [17:02] schestowitz wikipedia is good for some things, with caveats [17:02] schestowitz the rich buy their own image there [17:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Wikipedia | Techrights [17:04] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:04] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Historical relevance and contemporary irrevelance combined with increasing wackiness is an annoying combination. [17:04] CrystalMath i guess it's hard to keep up with the changes [17:06] techrights-news A hotbed of #patenttrolls with lots of abstract (invalid) #patents and lenient courts https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-invents-103-patents-granted-for-week-of-july-27/ #swpats #softwarepatents [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Dallas Invents: 103 Patents Granted forWeekofJuly27 Dallas Innovates [17:06] CrystalMath XRevan86: i guess one solution would be to say freenode shut down, and that two networks rose from the people who used to run it [17:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The probably is that formally that's not what happened. [17:07] XRevan86 * the problem [17:07] CrystalMath hmm..... [17:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 101.91 swarm size (avg): 272.20 [17:08] CrystalMath XRevan86: i guess, yes, i don't think it's entirely clear either [17:09] CrystalMath in a way, new freenode was shut down server by server, but Joseon inherited its database [17:09] schestowitz-TR haha [17:09] schestowitz-TR what was left of it [17:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "in a way" [17:09] schestowitz-TR after lee pol pot's year zero [17:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: or you can look at it like, there was a "new genesis" and freenode classic was shutdown (rasengan said so) [17:10] XRevan86 CrystalMath: freenode was also shut down June 15th. [17:10] CrystalMath and then new freenode is a different network but it changed its name to Joseon [17:11] CrystalMath XRevan86: so you could say, the old freenode was renamed "freenode classic" and then shut down [17:11] techrights-news "Eagan, Minn.-based national distributor Capitol Sales has shut down. The company is referring all inquiries to its legal team." https://www.cepro.com/business-support/distributors-reps/capitol-sales-distribution-shuts-down/ [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cepro.com | Capitol Sales Distribution Shuts Down - CE Pro [17:11] CrystalMath a new network called "freenode" started but it was renamed to "Joseon" [17:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: All of that is interpretations. [17:11] CrystalMath XRevan86: yeah but it can be interpreted from rasengan's own words [17:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: freenode.net is still a thing and it points to Joseon. [17:11] CrystalMath hmm, yeah [17:11] schestowitz-TR foir now [17:12] schestowitz-TR maybe soon it'll redirect to some looney site [17:12] schestowitz-TR about imperialfamily or joseon.empire [17:12] XRevan86 * joseon.kr [17:12] isak wonder if they will ditch the freenode completely completely and go full joseon [17:12] schestowitz-TR no idea who people still go along with the k00k [17:12] schestowitz-TR after all he had said and done [17:12] isak err freenode brand [17:12] schestowitz-TR freenode as a name quickly because a liability [17:13] schestowitz-TR not a value brand [17:13] XRevan86 isak: That would be consistent, but so far things haven't been very consistent. [17:13] schestowitz-TR so they might rebrand and wipe again and again like blackwater/xe/akademi [17:14] techrights-news Gogi promotes art for #activism in #education https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/878494-gogi-promotes-art-for-activism-in-education #thenews #pk [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenews.com.pk | Gogi promotes art for activism in education [17:15] techrights-news "As is well known, Indias literacy rate at 76 per cent compares poorly with China, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam, all of which have achieved near total adult literacy levels" https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/national/i-day-special-pandemic-hit-children-need-better-education/article35913876.ece [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindubusinessline.com | I-Day Special | Pandemic-hit children need better education - The Hindu BusinessLine [17:15] XRevan86 isak: Also notice how when one visits freenode.net there are two huge buttons: Knowledge Base and Share Links, the second one points to bbs.freenode.net, which has been abandoned. [17:16] XRevan86 Half the links in the footer are also borked. [17:16] schestowitz-TR is gitlab still up? [17:16] XRevan86 That's the level of consistency. [17:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes, but actually no. [17:17] schestowitz-TR not maintained? [17:17] XRevan86 Whatever is maintained is hidden from the public. [17:17] XRevan86 The link in the footer points to a private repository. [17:17] techrights-news Researchers Claim #Facebook Threatened To Sue Them Unless They Shut Down Project https://www.tampafp.com/researchers-claim-facebook-threatened-to-sue-them-unless-they-shut-down-project/ [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tampafp.com | Researchers Claim Facebook Threatened To Sue Them Unless They Shut Down Project [17:18] schestowitz-TR camera-shy [17:20] isak XRevan86 seems like everything is rushed, they had chit also, the chit was taken down after a week or two. then came irc.com that switched to freenode from snoonet or whatever, then added remotes, and now this joseon stuff [17:20] isak doesn't seem very well executed "plan" all in all that just result in more confusion [17:20] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [17:21] XRevan86 isak: Yes. And IRC.com's involvement here is also unclear. [17:21] XRevan86 The applications are abandonware, the SSO could've easily been elsewhere. [17:22] XRevan86 Pretty pointless stuff. [17:23] *isak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:26] XRevan86 What was the goal? Did Andrew Lee hope that if he clamps all his brands together that they'll join into one mega-brand? [17:27] XRevan86 Though more realistically he probably just changed his plan halfway several times. [17:27] techrights-news "E-goliath's subsidiary drops 'draconian' contract terms that absorbed personal work, demanded license rights" https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/amazon_game_contracts/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon Game Studios to its own devs: All your codebase doesn't belong to us The Register [17:27] XRevan86 And now it's a big dump of half-finished projects. [17:29] techrights-news #ibm #frontGroup #ipo pushing for #patent maximalism. Another reason to shun IBM. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/ipo-webinar-on-pandemic-remote-and-hybrid-work-arrangements-for-those-with-disabilities.html https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/ipo-webinar-on-arbitration-and-mediation-in-the-us-and-china.html [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Pandemic, Remote, and Hybrid Work Arrangements for Those with Disabilities [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Arbitration and Mediation in the U.S. and China [17:30] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: alternative storyline [17:30] schestowitz-TR 1. lee grows up with low esteem [17:30] schestowitz-TR 2. lee joins irc [17:30] schestowitz-TR 3. lee is told as an adult about some old papers [17:30] schestowitz-TR 4. lee still acts all infantile [17:31] schestowitz-TR 5. lee ride some mt gox wave [17:31] schestowitz-TR 6. brands himself as edgy [17:31] schestowitz-TR 7. starts pia [17:31] schestowitz-TR 8. edgy internet users riding lee's vc money [17:31] schestowitz-TR 9. or bitcoin imaginary money [17:31] schestowitz-TR 10. lee buys a bunch of worthless junk, like a domain irc.com [17:31] schestowitz-TR (I reckon for maybe a grand) [17:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: "alternative storyline" I thought of https://hostingadvice.com/blog/freenode-supports-open-innovation/ there for a second. [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.hostingadvice.com/blog/freenode-supports-open-innovation/ ) [17:32] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [17:32] schestowitz-TR a domain irc.com does not have much practical value [17:32] schestowitz-TR 11. lee wants to "invest" in irc [17:32] schestowitz-TR 12. lee finds out after some years with freenode he cannot 'monetise' it [17:32] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, that's nostalgia [17:32] schestowitz-TR my irc usage goes way back [17:33] schestowitz-TR anyway, 13. staff freaks out. mortified by the plans, it clones freenode [17:33] schestowitz-TR 14. lee also panics [17:33] schestowitz-TR 15. lee gets paranoid, feels insults, becomes angry [17:33] schestowitz-TR then logic ends [17:33] schestowitz-TR and we have a mess [17:34] superkuh Huh. So it wasn't cancel culture after all. /s [17:34] schestowitz-TR I did not say it was [17:34] superkuh You did. [17:34] schestowitz-TR he said it was [17:34] schestowitz-TR where? [17:34] schestowitz-TR he used the term [17:34] superkuh You know what? I keep giving you chances and you keep lying. I'm done. I'm done with all this. This is stupid. [17:34] *superkuh has quit (Quit: the neuronal action potential is an electrical manipulation of reversible abrupt phase changes in the lipid bilayer) [17:34] schestowitz-TR ok, whatever [17:35] XRevan86 http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ "Weve noticed that the very same people who worked super-hard to cancel both Stallman and Torvalds campaign against Lee." maybe that? [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights [17:36] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights [17:36] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/03/14/cancel-culture-and-freesw/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Culture and the Handbook for Destroying the Free Software Movement | Techrights [17:36] CrystalMath oh that's not over [17:36] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/12/10/rms-cancel-culture/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Culture as Thoughtpolice Creep | Techrights [17:37] schestowitz maybe he thought of "The Panic Over Freenode Isnt Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate" [17:37] CrystalMath cancel culture still exists in free software [17:37] schestowitz that was earlier on [17:37] schestowitz May 19th [17:37] CrystalMath cancel culture still needs to be fought against [17:37] schestowitz haha, "super" canceled me ;-) [17:37] CrystalMath also i mean [17:38] CrystalMath most stuff they said about Lee was false [17:38] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/25/cancelled-in-wikipedia/ [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Wikipedia is Controlled by Corporations and Mobs, It Needs to Be Cancelled | Techrights [17:38] CrystalMath their conspiracy theories were very broad [17:38] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/cancel-mobs-meme/ [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Cancel Mobs | Techrights [17:38] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/debian-project-censorship/ [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Culture in Debian Project | Techrights [17:38] XRevan86 CrystalMath: This is a good example of "cancel culture" the term being used against people who are defending themselves against an aggressor. [17:39] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/03/19/cancel-culture-as-assassination/ [17:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Against All Superficiality Cancel Culture is About Assassination, Not Empathy or Love | Techrights [17:39] schestowitz I cannot see where I called freenode "cancel" [17:39] schestowitz XRevan86: RMS is an aggressor? [17:39] XRevan86 schestowitz: Andrew Lee [17:41] techrights-news Why would any sane person defend endless #monopolies with #evergreening h https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t2m24jvyhr9t/how-patent-evergreening-plays-out-in-india [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | How patent evergreening plays out in India | Managing Intellectual Property [17:43] techrights-news #BoltonLLP still promoting their fantasy that's UPC, even if the UK left the EU, leaving the #UPC to rot https://www.stevens-bolton.com/site/insights/articles/life-sciences-a-to-u-is-for-unified-patent-court #stevensbolton [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stevens-bolton.com | Life Sciences A to Z - U is for Unified Patent Court - Stevens & Bolton LLP [17:45] techrights-news #WIPO is extremely corrupt, but it keeps using vulnerable groups for PR stunts http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/wipo-and-international-day-of-worlds.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | WIPO and the International Day of the Worlds Indigenous Peoples - The IPKat [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights [17:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf look at the screenshots since page 10. [17:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: So we know that since Christel resigned the freenode staff was planning a reorganisation, and we know that freenode had a big problem with how it was organised before. [17:48] schestowitz-TR I see.. [17:48] schestowitz-TR post mortem type [17:48] CrystalMath XRevan86: a lot of things Lee did at freenode were in fact planned before [17:48] XRevan86 This is one of the things that freaked Andrew Lee out. [17:48] CrystalMath i found articles from 2018, that mention BBS, jobs, the BNC, etc... [17:49] CrystalMath not remotes though [17:49] XRevan86 CrystalMath: He said to tomaw (also screenshots around this PDF) that he has ideas. [17:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: but christel had a lot of these ideas [17:49] CrystalMath only she didn't want solanum [17:49] CrystalMath i don't think she'd want InspIRCd [17:49] XRevan86 So indeed, despite his promise to be hands-off, he had a Vision. [17:49] CrystalMath i guess she just would have stuck with charybdis [17:50] CrystalMath XRevan86: tomaw was the one who asked for the domains first [17:50] CrystalMath even though he's not the owner [17:51] schestowitz-TR was lee really the owner? [17:51] schestowitz-TR it was like a legal hack [17:51] schestowitz-TR ask christel to set something up [17:51] schestowitz-TR hire her [17:52] schestowitz-TR become "sponsor" [17:52] schestowitz-TR very cheap takeover, too [17:52] schestowitz-TR with unpaid staff [17:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: He was on the board of directors after 2017. [17:52] schestowitz-TR does that require just money? [17:52] schestowitz-TR how did he get into board foundation? [17:52] schestowitz-TR I guess money [17:53] schestowitz-TR he's not using gnome or gnu/linux [17:53] schestowitz-TR same issue as in LF [17:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Yea, but later that was done was adding 2FA. It's evident that was a lot of worry about the domain, it is crucial after all. [17:55] XRevan86 * all that was done [17:55] techrights-news "On appeal, the Federal Circuit has rejected that claim construction and vacated for reconsideration. According to the opinion, the PTAB erred in delving into the extrinsic evidence since the intrinsic evidence was clear, even though entirely silent as to the gimbal issue." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/giving-meaning-silence.html [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Giving Meaning to Silence (Claim Construction) | Patently-O [17:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: the second factor was not given to the owner [17:58] MinceR > freenode had a big problem with how it was organised before. [17:58] MinceR it still does, all of the Toxic Three do [17:58] techrights-news "The Federal Circuit reversed, in an opinion by Judge Newman joined by Judge Moore; Chief Judge Prost provided a lengthy, comprehensive dissent." https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/glaxosmithkline-llc-v-teva-pharmaceuticals-usa-fed-cir-2021.html [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: GlaxoSmithKline LLC v. Teva Pharmaceuticals USA (Fed. Cir. 2021) [17:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: This is the part I don't understand and I have conflicting data on. tomaw had a separate account, and 2FA evidently cannot be set on a whole organisation. ● Aug 15 [18:00] CrystalMath i really want to email christel and ask her if she wants to start a new network [18:00] CrystalMath for FLOSS [18:01] techrights-news #OpenAI now boosting #proprietarySoftware #monopoly and #GPLViolations ... so much for "open" https://www.infoworld.com/article/3629469/openai-offers-api-for-github-copilot-ai-model.html #openwashing [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenAI offers API for GitHub Copilot AI model | InfoWorld [18:02] XRevan86 CrystalMath: And then she'll resign. [18:02] techrights-news #Palantir abandons any attempt at curating nice-guy image with 'Global Information Dominance Experiments' The Register https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/palantir_global_information_dominance/ #theregister [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Palantir abandons any attempt at curating nice-guy image with 'Global Information Dominance Experiments' The Register [18:03] XRevan86 > the second factor was not given to the owner [18:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I really need clarification on that. [18:03] techrights-news Signs of #COVID19 Scams and Fraud https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-related-scams-to-look-out-for-5197056 #verywellhealth [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.verywellhealth.com | Signs of COVID Scams and Fraud [18:03] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:03] XRevan86 Like I've been saying seen May. [18:04] XRevan86 The people that bother to reply said that it was a requirement to have 2FA set, which adds up with what I gathered about how Gandi operates. [18:04] XRevan86 * that bothered to reply [18:05] techrights-news Re-volting: #AMD Secure Encrypted Virtualization undone by electrical attack The Register https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/amd_secure_encrypted_virtualization/ #theregister [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Re-volting: AMD Secure Encrypted Virtualization undone by electrical attack The Register [18:07] techrights-news Can mainstream media quit this whole "Hey Hi" hype and speak about the underlying issues, such as spying? https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/08/11/artificial-intelligence-big-tech-regulation-monopoly-antitrust-google-apple-amazon-facebook/ [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | Policymakers Must Regulate Big Techs AI Dominance [18:08] Despatche *Policymakers Must Regulate Big Tech [18:08] techrights-news #freesw Drives IoT and Edge Computing Adoption https://www.rtinsights.com/open-source-drives-iot-and-edge-computing-adoption/ [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Drives IoT and Edge Computing Adoption - RTInsights [18:09] Despatche time to kill open source then [18:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: she wouldn't resign, because this time we would carefully choose staff [18:11] CrystalMath if you have any sort of furry creature on your social media, you can't be staff, simple solution [18:11] CrystalMath then the problem will not reoccur [18:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Sure, because we know why she resigned. [18:11] CrystalMath Ariadne confirmed it even here [18:11] CrystalMath but i was told by jess anyway [18:12] techrights-news #China stops networked vehicle data going offshore under new #infosec rules https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/china_networked_car_rules/ [18:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | China stops networked vehicle data going offshore under new infosec rules The Register [18:12] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Can ye quote? [18:12] CrystalMath XRevan86: the staff wanted to oust "the cabal" (a small group that included christel) [18:12] Ariadne good [18:12] CrystalMath jess said 4 people [18:12] Ariadne fuck christel [18:12] CrystalMath were in the cabal [18:12] CrystalMath i think the cabal was good for freenode [18:13] techrights-news "In what is one of the most unique legal battles in the industry, a U.S. federal judge has sided with one mans legal effort to keep his tokens, despite having mined them by exploiting a bug in the system" https://coingeek.com/court-rules-man-who-exploited-bug-to-mint-14m-in-icx-tokens-can-legally-pursue/ [18:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court rules man who exploited bug to mint $14M in ICX tokens can legally pursue - CoinGeek [18:13] CrystalMath XRevan86: i'd like the cabal to run a new network, with better staff [18:13] Ariadne yeah, its good for somebody who threatens to k-line entire projects for granting commit privileges to christel's enemies to be in charge [18:14] Ariadne you talk about christel being good for free speech, but threatening projects for giving commit privs to people she dislikes is also fine? [18:14] Ariadne haha, what hypocrisy [18:14] CrystalMath i still don't quite know what happened there [18:14] Ariadne its very simple [18:14] CrystalMath the project was charybdis [18:15] CrystalMath right? [18:15] Ariadne i gave commit privileges to somebody christel had a beef with [18:15] techrights-news "The #AllStars tool allows software maintainers to automatically check specific facets of their project, such as security policy." https://www.itprotoday.com/testing-and-quality-assurance/google-releases-tool-help-developers-enforce-security but it encourages reliance on NSA-connected #GitHub , so no real #security assured [18:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Google Releases Tool to Help Developers Enforce Security | IT Pro [18:15] CrystalMath was this freenode's github, or yours? [18:15] Ariadne christel said she would k-line everyone involved in charybdis if we did not revert that decision [18:15] Ariadne *mine* [18:15] *XRevan86 likes how instead of facts he reads about more opinions everyone has. [18:15] CrystalMath XRevan86: detective work is hard [18:16] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ye said previously that it's likely that Andrew fired Christel. [18:16] Ariadne everything that happened with freenode goes back to that exact moment where she threatened the charybdis project by the way [18:16] XRevan86 Ariadne: Now CrystalMath puts a diametrally different statement in your mouth, and there's no problem with that expressed. [18:17] Ariadne XRevan86: it is definite that andrew fired christel [18:17] CrystalMath Ariadne: that doesn't add up with what jess told me [18:17] Ariadne CrystalMath: it is also definite that freenode's own staff wanted christel gone [18:17] CrystalMath well not me, she told the whole channel, #libera on freenode classic [18:17] Ariadne *both* are true [18:18] CrystalMath why did Andrew fire Christel? [18:18] XRevan86 Ariadne: Having a beef with someone and forcing them to resign are two different things. [18:18] Ariadne to "save IRC" [18:18] XRevan86 One doesn't automatically explain the other. [18:19] Ariadne XRevan86: i think that andrew forced christel to resign, but i also think that the libera team were putting pressure on her too for other reasons [18:19] Ariadne well, similar reasons [18:20] XRevan86 Ariadne: Being confronted from two fronts is indeed resignation material. [18:21] Ariadne the talking points andrew made about freenode's state of affairs prior to his takeover were talking points discussed in the charybdis community since christel threatened the project in 2018 [18:21] XRevan86 But notice how different this is from the original statement. [18:21] Ariadne no, i think andrew fired christel [18:21] Ariadne 100% i do [18:21] Ariadne because last year he said he was going to "solve the freenode problem" in my testnet [18:22] XRevan86 > the staff wanted to oust "the cabal" (a small group that included christel) [18:22] Ariadne but i also think the libera team wanted to oust christel [18:22] Ariadne it is possible for both to be true [18:22] techrights-news #Debian 11 Bullseye Released! Kernel 5.10, exFAT, Modern Printers Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502#comment-30560 [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [18:22] XRevan86 This one, that paints things from just one perspective. [18:22] CrystalMath Ariadne: jess told me that they succeeded at ousting christel [18:22] CrystalMath so did they convince Andrew Lee to fire her? [18:22] Ariadne *I* convinced Andrew to fire her [18:22] *XRevan86 coughs. [18:22] CrystalMath oh, hmm [18:23] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154524 #TuxMachines [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:23] CrystalMath yeah that ties up that loose end [18:23] Ariadne *independently* of whatever the freenode staff were doing [18:23] Ariadne and i wasn't actively trying to [18:23] schestowitz-TR oh, wow [18:24] Ariadne the topic came up, and then he said he would "take care of the problem", and then a few months later, christel disappears and he starts talking the same points people in the charybdis/ophion community made last year about the situation [18:24] Ariadne the idea to fire her clearly came from those conversations [18:25] Ariadne and if she doesn't like it, she shouldn't have threatened projects who gave commit privileges to her enemies [18:26] Ariadne the talking point of how freenode staff can end somebody's career with a k-line? we were talking about the chilling effect of christel's behavior [18:27] XRevan86 Boy Andrew is full of shit. [18:28] Ariadne andrew just parrots whatever people tell him [18:28] XRevan86 The staff bullied her to resign, right. [18:28] Ariadne maybe they did [18:28] Ariadne i mean, i wasn't there [18:28] Ariadne but i suspect it was at least andrew bitching about how she threatened projects *he liked* [18:29] XRevan86 Ariadne: If he is the primary actor here he doesn't get to make that accusation. [18:29] Ariadne on top of whatever the staff were doing [18:29] Ariadne at the very least, he was part of the dogpile [18:29] Ariadne but i am quite certain that he fired christel [18:30] Ariadne because in february, he said explicitly that the issues with freenode are being solved [18:31] Ariadne and he understood that we meant that christel should go [18:32] XRevan86 Ariadne: Now it makes sense why Christel doesn't want to talk about it. [18:32] Ariadne yes, she was *fired* [18:33] Ariadne but atheme has wanted her gone since 2018 when she threatened the charybdis project [18:33] Ariadne and as many freenode staffers were members of atheme, it is unsurprising that they would be moving to oust christel internally too [18:33] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154525 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:34] Ariadne and, it is no secret that atheme has wanted her gone since 2018 [18:35] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, indeed [18:35] Ariadne so i would say that at least some of the freenode staff were pressing her to resign [18:35] Ariadne since 2018 [18:35] schestowitz-TR took months for us to make more sense of it all [18:36] Ariadne didn't take me months, i knew what was up from day 1 :p [18:36] XRevan86 Ariadne: Well, ye just dropped a truthbomb, so yea :) [18:36] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: the person who defamed you in freenode around that time [18:36] schestowitz-TR is that connected? [18:36] schestowitz-TR and also registered a domain with your name? [18:36] Ariadne which person who defamed me in freenode? [18:36] Ariadne oh [18:36] schestowitz-TR mass spamming [18:36] schestowitz-TR for months or weeks at least [18:36] Ariadne that? that was zeekill [18:36] Ariadne unrelated [18:37] schestowitz-TR MinceR and I had to lower access to the channel to mitigate [18:37] Ariadne as for tomaw becoming head of staff, it was the obvious choice [18:37] schestowitz-TR it was round the time I already worried about big network being spam magnets [18:38] schestowitz-TR for small networks it can be simpler to cope, or not attract that in the first place (lowered incentive) [18:38] Ariadne tomaw represented the staffers who were also atheme members when negotiating with christel [18:38] Ariadne e.g he was 'shop steward' [18:38] XRevan86 Anyway, to me the most important bit is that Andrew tried to paint a narrative where he is all hands-off and the evil staffers tried to bully a poor innocent Christel, and he just had to step in and bring them to justice. [18:38] schestowitz-TR yes, a lie [18:38] Ariadne yeah no that wasn't the case at all [18:38] Ariadne christel needed to go [18:38] schestowitz-TR Andrew Lie [18:39] schestowitz-TR Andrew Li [18:39] Ariadne you can't threaten projects with k-lines [18:40] Ariadne i mean, i don't know if andrew fired christel or not, but i think it is likely [18:40] Ariadne very likely [18:40] Ariadne i would put money on it [18:40] schestowitz-TR sometimes it's like this [18:40] schestowitz-TR jump or I push [18:40] Ariadne i think andrew and tomaw made a deal to get rid of christel [18:40] Ariadne and then the deal went south [18:40] schestowitz-TR easily to get another job is you jump [18:41] Ariadne over the 2FA thing [18:42] Ariadne i have reasons to think that, namely i encouraged andrew to talk to the atheme people, including tomaw [18:42] XRevan86 I get that tomaw wanted to reserve the domain to freenode, but I'm pretty sure the 2FA thing was a compromise to at least make it secure against password brute-forcing. [18:42] schestowitz-TR 2fa is not good [18:42] schestowitz-TR for many reasons [18:42] schestowitz-TR I can point to many articles [18:42] Ariadne it depends on what the second factor is [18:43] schestowitz-TR yes [18:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: Please keep in mind that the 2FA in question is TOTP. [18:43] schestowitz-TR like ssh key [18:43] schestowitz-TR top of the pop? [18:43] schestowitz-TR :-) [18:43] Ariadne TOTP is fine [18:43] Ariadne as long as there is brute force protection on the server side [18:43] schestowitz-TR in uk-land it's a tv show [18:43] schestowitz-TR or platform [18:43] XRevan86 Ariadne: Right. [18:43] Ariadne the "2FA" where they text you a code to your phone [18:43] Ariadne is not fine [18:44] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154526 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:44] Ariadne because you can steal people's phone numbers [18:44] Ariadne and then you control their second factor [18:44] XRevan86 Ariadne: And then some mobile operations are scammy. [18:44] techrights-news #Apple M1 PCIe Driver Under Review For The Linux Kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154527 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apple M1 PCIe Driver Under Review For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines [18:44] schestowitz-TR it's like username reuse [18:45] schestowitz-TR wrongly assumes a person is a number in the carrier space [18:45] schestowitz-TR like fingerprints being something you can't hide or even change [18:45] XRevan86 In Russia there were many instances when employees of mobile operators stole money from YooMoney and such by hijacking the SMS. [18:45] Ariadne anyway, [18:45] Ariadne most likely tomaw and andrew made a deal to get christel out [18:46] Ariadne which is actually a good thing [18:46] Ariadne because christel is bad actually [18:46] schestowitz-TR I never understood the lio -christel connection [18:46] schestowitz-TR *lilo [18:47] schestowitz-TR never asked, either [18:47] Ariadne well, in 2005, atheme was created as a result of freenode's development team deciding to collectively organize [18:47] schestowitz-TR "you were always afraid to ask...." [18:47] Ariadne christel at that time was a freenode staffer (a level1 helper) [18:48] Ariadne after some dust settled, time moved on and things were mostly alright [18:48] Ariadne then christel was nominated to be secretary of PDPC [18:49] Ariadne she leaked to atheme that lilo had been cooking the books at PDPC [18:49] Ariadne so, we published the real books [18:49] Ariadne as well as the fake ones [18:49] Ariadne it turned out the IRS became very interested in this [18:49] techrights-news "I setup webthings.io on a #RaspberryPi with a #ZigBee adapter. In my work at Mozilla a few years ago, I wrote my own Python package to assist in controlling IoT devices (starting at: Things Gateway Series 2), so it was easy to throw together a rule." https://www.twobraids.com/2021/08/rotten-chicken-structural-pattern.html [18:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.twobraids.com | Rotten Chicken & Structural Pattern Matching [18:50] Ariadne so, lilo was being audited [18:50] Ariadne and was in the process of stepping down, actually, from PDPC [18:50] schestowitz-TR irs hates free software [18:50] schestowitz-TR some have said so [18:50] Ariadne then he had an accident [18:50] schestowitz-TR very suspicious of it [18:50] Ariadne and passed away [18:51] schestowitz-TR I remember the day [18:51] Ariadne now, in retrospect, it may have been that christel just made up a fake set of second books to back her allegations [18:51] gustaf o_OO [18:51] Ariadne and knowing her pattern of behavior, i would not be surprised to find out that she did [18:51] schestowitz-TR 3 eyes? [18:52] Ariadne anyway, she wound up in control of PDPC because she was at that time a member of atheme, and lilo made her secretary because he wanted to say that we had representation on the board :P [18:53] Ariadne its pretty boring, really [18:53] techrights-news #blowhard #watchtroll now bashing #biden for doing something right (as usual): "Biden Executive Orders Approach to SEPs Sells Out American Small Businesses and Innovators"; see also http://techrights.org/2020/11/06/watchtroll-own-goal/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Patent Maximalists: We Love Criminals and Rapists as Presidents | Techrights [18:53] Ariadne other than the whole "PDPC budget leak" scandal, which in retrospect may have been 100% bullshit [18:59] Ariadne CrystalMath: as for libera being left or right wing, given that it was primarily created by the atheme side of freenode's staff, and that atheme has traditionally been an apolitical organization (except when advancing the concept of personal digital autonomy, of which software freedom is a component), i don't think that you have to worry about them banning you for being right wing [18:59] CrystalMath Ariadne: i didn't say i was right-wing :P i'm not that far in that direction [18:59] CrystalMath i am a little i guess ● Aug 15 [19:00] CrystalMath but only because individual freedom is right-wing now [19:00] MinceR lol [19:00] CrystalMath i have no interest in "family values" or stuff like that [19:00] Ariadne atheme supports individual freedom [19:00] CrystalMath the problem is that my friends already got k-lined [19:00] MinceR how does individual freedom fit into hijacking the state to force one's own religion on others? [19:00] MinceR "left-wing" and "right-wing" are both cancer [19:00] Ariadne agreed [19:01] CrystalMath MinceR: no i mean the very idea of freedom of the individual is considered right-wing now [19:01] CrystalMath not that all right-wing people support it :P [19:01] Ariadne no it's not [19:01] CrystalMath but i believe in it at all costs, though [19:02] MinceR it seems to me both wings try to use the concept to advertise themselves [19:02] MinceR fraudulently [19:02] Ariadne ^ [19:02] MinceR "left wing" often calls itself "liberal" [19:02] MinceR "right wing" often calls itself "libertarian" and/or "anarcho-capitalist" [19:03] MinceR actual liberty is ignored [19:03] MinceR bigotry and religious fundamentalism are pushed instead [19:03] CrystalMath anyway, libera.crap already had staff say that antivax opinions will lead to k-lines [19:04] CrystalMath they already k-lined my friends for far less [19:04] MinceR classy way to handle antivax [19:04] MinceR also very convincing [19:05] Ariadne what is 'antivax opinions' ? [19:05] MinceR "oh well, if they silence people expressing such an opinion, then that proves such opinions to be wrong" [19:05] CrystalMath most of the non-staff people there are terrible, almost every channel is sick with hatred against RMS [19:05] CrystalMath it's the entire toxic open source world [19:05] Ariadne if it is "covid vaccine gives you 5G that bill gates uses to track you" [19:05] CrystalMath Ariadne: i believe it was just a link to some mRNA skepticism [19:05] Ariadne that should be k-lined [19:06] CrystalMath Ariadne: see, it shouldn't [19:06] Ariadne imo [19:06] CrystalMath it's false [19:06] CrystalMath but it shouldn't be k-lined [19:06] MinceR Ariadne: why, can it not be countered with well documented facts? [19:06] Ariadne well not k-lined [19:06] CrystalMath Ariadne: you are not for individual freedom [19:06] Ariadne but somebody should be calling this person on their shit [19:06] MinceR yes they should [19:06] CrystalMath Ariadne: it was on a private channel [19:06] CrystalMath libera.crap staff sit on every channel though [19:06] Ariadne sounds bad [19:07] CrystalMath jess is again on 200+ channels [19:07] CrystalMath including #winapi [19:07] CrystalMath which is bridged to EFNet now [19:07] CrystalMath (it might be ##winapi i'm not sure) [19:07] MinceR well, if they keep k-lining people from illibera for disagreeing with staff, they're only hurting illibera with that [19:08] CrystalMath i know [19:08] MinceR apparently shrinking irc networks via mismanagement is "hip" and "cool" now [19:08] CrystalMath that's why i said i totally agree with them :P [19:08] Ariadne maybe i should start a real network [19:08] MinceR :> [19:08] CrystalMath good people should be removed from libera.crap [19:08] Ariadne pissnet is funny, but its not a real network [19:08] CrystalMath only terrible people should be there [19:08] CrystalMath so that we know what to avoid [19:08] Ariadne fwiw i think some libera staff are not particularly great choices [19:09] Ariadne the problem with irc networks is that the people who know how to deal with things like spam floods [19:09] schestowitz-TR that's a technical aspect [19:09] Ariadne tend to be somewhat authoritarian when given power [19:10] schestowitz-TR to me, networks of irc should care about the projects under their wing [19:10] Ariadne yes [19:10] schestowitz-TR the latter is more important [19:10] MinceR i can think of 3 who are particularly horrible choices [19:10] Ariadne well, s/projects/communities/ [19:10] schestowitz-TR technical things one can learn [19:10] schestowitz-TR and adapt ti [19:10] schestowitz-TR *to [19:10] Ariadne maybe i should finish ophion [19:11] schestowitz-TR it sounds like an important project [19:11] schestowitz-TR we need something like fediverse but for irc [19:11] schestowitz-TR fediverse is resource hog and slow for interaction [19:11] DaemonFC Indiana ambulance calls are up 44%. [19:11] schestowitz-TR lots of clicking and stuff [19:11] DaemonFC No particular reason, I guess. [19:11] DaemonFC The Hoax, maybe. [19:11] Ariadne ophion allows you to create irc networks where the services database is distributed [19:12] MinceR nice [19:12] schestowitz-TR about time [19:12] MinceR do you still have to trust all the ircd-s in the network? [19:12] Ariadne well, i should clarify, there is no 'services' anymore, it is replaced with ircx [19:12] schestowitz-TR you don't :-) [19:12] schestowitz-TR like with federations [19:12] schestowitz-TR you can ignore rogue ones [19:12] Ariadne MinceR: no, but simply because TS6 is trustless anyway [19:12] MinceR interesting [19:13] MinceR it used to be that a server could just say someone got opped in a given channel [19:13] schestowitz-TR one can set up a spam fediverse instance [19:13] schestowitz-TR or diaspora [19:13] DaemonFC Well, I guess they'll be smarting from that for a while. [19:13] schestowitz-TR you can flush it [19:13] DaemonFC The ambulance to the hospital is roughly $9,000 or more and that's before you're even at the hospital. [19:13] MinceR (also, you could just connect a client with a given nick to an ircd and then link it to the network and remove someone with a collision, but that's been solved a long time ago, afaik) [19:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: off topic [19:13] schestowitz-TR we talk about irc [19:14] Ariadne MinceR: TS6 has some protections against that, it's not perfect [19:14] Ariadne all practical split-riding attacks are solved though [19:14] techrights-news #Openwashing Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154528 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:14] techrights-news #GNU Health: #GNUHealth emergency response in Haiti http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154529 [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Health: GNU Health emergency response in Haiti | Tux Machines [19:14] Ariadne a hostile server can still hack ops [19:15] Ariadne however, [19:16] Ariadne one thing i was working on was a restricted open federation mode [19:16] Ariadne where you could do, for example [19:16] Ariadne /join !irc.techrights.org#techrights [19:16] Ariadne and that kind of link was more restricted [19:16] techrights-news #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154530 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:17] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154531 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:17] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154532 #TuxMachines [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154533 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:18] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:19] techrights-news Links 15/8/2021: Joomla Sued, GNU Health Helps in Haiti http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/joomla-sued/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/joomla-sued/ [19:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/8/2021: Joomla Sued, GNU Health Helps in Haiti | Techrights [19:29] techrights-news Still promoting the totally inane and dangerous idea that bots should be given #monopolies over people https://newstodaynet.com/index.php/2021/08/10/editorial-patent-intelligence/ #patent ##monopoly #patents [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newstodaynet.com | Editorial: Patent intelligence - News Today | First with the news [19:31] techrights-news Great idea. More #monopolies for #narcotics . Maybe they'll start arresting people over patents instead of #drug use and #lawyers will line their pockets. https://www.streetinsider.com/Newsfile/Green+Globe+Intl.+Signs+LOI+to+Acquire+Patent+to+Make+Marijuana+Paper/18789677.html #patents [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Green Globe Intl. Signs LOI to Acquire Patent to Make Marijuana Paper [19:33] techrights-news #googlenews has added yet another mass #plagiarism site, which it is rewarding. #swordstoday sigh. Google News became so awful in recent years... [19:34] CrystalMath Ariadne: pylink tries to do something like that [19:34] CrystalMath a kind of partial link [19:35] Ariadne yes, same idea [19:35] CrystalMath but maybe the IRC protocol should just be like that, allowing partial linking [19:35] CrystalMath maybe to allow two clients with the same nick [19:35] CrystalMath calling them nick/server [19:36] CrystalMath only when they're not on your server though, and if they're not unique [19:36] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21070977 [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5662246) [19:36] MinceR maybe just make all namespaces hierarchical or key-based :> [19:43] schestowitz MinceR: Viktor Orban mentioned in next techrights article [19:43] MinceR i'm holding out for a live feed of his execution [19:44] schestowitz we cannot deliver... [19:44] schestowitz but you will see one gory scene [19:44] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Macedonian-Parliament.png [19:44] schestowitz Zoran Zaev (top centre) and Radmila ekerinska (top right) [19:44] MinceR :> [19:45] schestowitz "The intense domestic political power struggle - which at times degenerated into open violence as on "Bloody Thursday" - ended with the ousting of Gruevski who ultimately absconded to seek asylum in Viktor Orban's Hungary in November 2018." [19:45] schestowitz "you're a criminal?" [19:45] MinceR ah, viktor's favorite axe murderer [19:45] schestowitz "ME TOO!" [19:45] MinceR no, wait, that was someone else [19:46] schestowitz Orban: "WHICH ONE of them?" [19:46] spazz that axeman was from azerbaijan [19:47] spazz iirc [19:48] Ariadne CrystalMath: although pissnet was a joke, i think it does prove that it is possible to have a loose federation of servers with a distributed account database and channel acl system [19:48] MinceR yeah ● Aug 15 [20:10] techrights-news An #EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XI: Captured States in the EUs Waiting Room http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/captured-balkan-states/ #Techrights #Corruption #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/captured-balkan-states/ [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XI: Captured States in the EUs Waiting Room | Techrights [20:31] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@am3it2qkjrkgg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:32] DaemonFC Someone is prying open our mailboxes, so I called the police per the landlord. [20:32] DaemonFC I don't know what good it'll do. They can't catch a cold, but they can do a psychic reading from across town to divine whether I failed to yield, apparently. :P [20:34] DaemonFC Ah, it's a great little town. [20:34] *tr_guest|77134 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:34] DaemonFC Welfare queens on mart carts stealing entire TV sets. No cops. [20:34] DaemonFC Looting. No cops. [20:35] DaemonFC Arson and vandalism. No cops. [20:35] schestowitz-TR off topic [20:35] DaemonFC I start my car. Here comes the Farmer Squad. [20:35] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: #techpol pls [20:35] *tr_guest|77134 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [20:58] techrights-news Wow! So all the #microsoft boosters are now pushing #wsl so you definitely know it's an ATTACK on #gnu #linux and if #MSPoweruser tells you to do something, DO NOT! So good that #wsl2 basically dies. That attack is failing. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights ● Aug 15 [21:00] techrights-news Also, #micosoft has weaponised #OpenAI against #gpl ... in effect now shamelessly encouraging people to commit #GPLviolations and make GPL/copyleft enforcement harder. Repeat after me: #GITHUB IS AN ATTACK ON SOFTWARE FREEDOM. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:04] techrights-news #israel will keep coming up with endless ways to make the world hate it. Hoarding vaccine doses, bombing civilians, now the #cracking tools it sells to dictators. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/13/un_wants_surveillance_tech_sales_moratorium/ [21:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | United Nations calls for moratorium on sale of surveillance tech like NSO Group's Pegasus The Register [21:06] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21070959 [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5660995) [21:06] techrights-news They could instead conserve/save a lot of energy by putting the displays at a shorter distance away https://edscoop.com/emory-u-boosts-virtual-learning-wall-sized-student-displays/ [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Emory U. boosts virtual learning with wall-sized student displays | EdScoop [21:18] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:26] techrights-news What Is the #Fediverse and Can It Decentralize the Web? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154534 [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is the Fediverse and Can It Decentralize the Web? | Tux Machines [21:43] Ariadne schestowitz: i am considering setting up a loosely federated network based on the ophion technology, if techrights wants to be involved in it :P [21:43] schestowitz-TR sounds good, sure [21:44] schestowitz-TR we can do articles and videos to explain it [21:47] techrights-news "I don't know what you do in any software development where new grads can write production quality ready code better than 'a good chunk of my team' unless your team is not development." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L#replies [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Mass exodus - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:47] techrights-news "Any government foolish enough to depend on this, will be depending on IBM's infamous scalability, uptime, and tech support." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckezhiq#replies [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM to allow only fully vaccinated to return to U.S. offices from September 7 - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:49] techrights-news "C&CS is an org that serves two purposes: it allows #IBM to inflate its externally reported Cloud numbers; and it provides a few execs with huge empires." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cjuefVA#replies [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Cloud vs Cloud and Cognitive Software - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:51] techrights-news When Nations Are Dens of Nepotism and #Corruption, Just Like the #EPO http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/abandoning-lawfulness/ #Techrights #Europe #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/abandoning-lawfulness/ [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Nations Are Dens of Nepotism and Corruption, Just Like the EPO | Techrights [21:52] psydruid Microsoft's empire is falling apart at an alarming (to them) rate, so they have to do something. Nothing works anyway. I would rather have them commit suicide, but some people are trying to postpone the inevitable for completely selfish reasons [21:52] schestowitz-TR yes, wsl, shithub... [21:52] schestowitz-TR failing efforts [21:52] schestowitz-TR afaik, they still lose loads of money on aAZUNE [21:52] schestowitz-TR and shithub too [21:52] schestowitz-TR they hide it by shuffling money between buckets [21:52] schestowitz-TR same thing IBM does [21:52] schestowitz-TR they have this in common [21:53] schestowitz-TR bezos strole their lunch [21:53] schestowitz-TR Gates is likely facing some sort of legal action soon [21:53] schestowitz-TR maybe sealed [21:53] schestowitz-TR and is busy trying to paint himself as CLIMATE HERO and/or VACCINE SAVIOUR [21:53] schestowitz-TR both for PROFIT, of course... [21:53] MinceR (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/07/19/c46ab7133e69d2c2.mp4 [21:53] schestowitz-TR let them eat patents... [21:54] MinceR gates should become an hero [21:54] MinceR that would totally work [21:55] schestowitz MinceR: a crocodile never came.. :/ [21:56] psydruid The man who would be king, but turned out to be a frog instead [21:56] schestowitz-TR frogs are harmless [21:56] schestowitz-TR to humans anyway [21:56] schestowitz-TR ofensive allegory [21:56] psydruid Gates will be harmless some day too [21:56] schestowitz-TR his dad is dead since last year [21:56] schestowitz-TR after years with dementia [21:57] schestowitz-TR let's hope the son won't live that long [21:57] schestowitz [15:46] You know what they say... small dick, big yacht. This #microsoft co-founder was a parasite just like #billgates https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/09/paul_allen_yacht/ also a #patentTroll http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interval [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | You can now live life like Paul Allen on Microsoft cofounder's luxury yacht for '1m a week' The Register [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Interval - Techrights [21:58] kingoffrance https://www.theonion.com/bill-gates-grants-self-18-dexterity-20-charisma-1819564339 he was always chaotic evil, he could only be dark king [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Bill Gates Grants Self 18 Dexterity, 20 Charisma [21:59] techrights-news #openwashing https://www.aerospacetestinginternational.com/news/data-acquisition/united-electronic-industries-announces-solutions-stack-aligned-with-the-open-group-face-technical-standard.html [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aerospacetestinginternational.com | United Electronic Industries announces solutions stack aligned with the Open Group FACE technical standard | Aerospace Testing International [21:59] techrights-news #racist #ibm still uses #racism (Watson) to market its #clownComputing https://www.streetinsider.com/Business+Wire/EdCast+Announces+New+MyGuide+Features+Using+IBM+Cloud+and+Watson+Technologies+to+Power+its+Intelligent+Digital+Adoption+Solution/18802080.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ ● Aug 15 [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | EdCast Announces New MyGuide Features Using IBM Cloud and Watson Technologies to Power its Intelligent Digital Adoption Solution [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [22:02] techrights-news #LinuxFoundation has basically sold the #linux brand to #monopolies of #ProprietarySoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154440#comment-30564 [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation Openwashing Monopolies Again | Tux Machines [22:03] kingoffrance quote Gates is widely considered to be primed for the Kingship. Certainly his campaign could be crushed if he made a mistake, [22:03] techrights-news #openwashing again https://ssir.org/articles/entry/open_social_innovation [22:03] kingoffrance so, he was set for dark king, but he made mistakes [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ssir.org | Using Open Social Innovation to Solve Society's Greatest Challenges [22:05] Ariadne > eBPF for Windows [22:05] Ariadne why? [22:05] techrights-news A further explanation of why North #Macedonia and other countries in the region arent being accepted into the #EuropeanUnion http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/captured-balkan-states/ #Techrights #EPO #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/captured-balkan-states/ [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part XI: Captured States in the EUs Waiting Room | Techrights [22:06] Ariadne like seriously [22:06] Ariadne i don't get it [22:06] psydruid checkbox item [22:06] techrights-news Abandonment of lawfulness seems to be something that the #EPO and #Balkan states have in common http://techrights.org/2021/08/15/abandoning-lawfulness/ #Techrights #Corruption #Europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/15/abandoning-lawfulness/ [22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Nations Are Dens of Nepotism and Corruption, Just Like the EPO | Techrights [22:06] psydruid "we have eBPF too, so you don't need anything else" [22:08] psydruid vapourware strategies [22:08] *phobos (~phobos@2tmjqat7v55jn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:08] XFaCE psydruid: Could be EBPF in WSL so it could be "technically" Windows [22:08] XFaCE The same way running a Unix in a virtual machine on Windows makes it POSIX [22:09] Ariadne cross platform rootkits [22:09] Ariadne its the new hotness [22:09] Ariadne i bet the script kiddies will love it [22:09] Ariadne prototype your malware on windows ebpf [22:09] Ariadne deploy on linux VMs [22:10] Ariadne write once, root everywhere [22:11] schestowitz now they sell wsl as "throw your linux container" here [22:11] schestowitz "please don't leave vista 10(+1)" [22:11] schestowitz "we'll give you a +2 soon" [22:12] schestowitz maybe they can do with mozilla did to google [22:12] schestowitz firefox version inflation every 4 weeks [22:12] schestowitz to keep up with chrome number [22:12] XFaCE schestowitz: can you believe we'd live long enough to see Windows copy OS/2 tactics (Windows OS/2)? [22:12] schestowitz every monthly patch teuesday? new version [22:12] XFaCE Wait Windows already was a copy of OS/2 n/m [22:12] schestowitz Windows 50 by end of 2022 [22:13] XFaCE schestowitz: *Vista 50 [22:13] schestowitz that too [22:13] schestowitz they hate that word [22:13] schestowitz it's a shattered brand [22:13] schestowitz they spent billions on that brand [22:13] schestowitz and it became synonymous with failures like WinFS [22:13] schestowitz clusterfucks [22:13] XFaCE And Cairo [22:13] schestowitz ah, that too LOL [22:14] schestowitz they love hijacking our brands [22:14] schestowitz cairo, now MAUI [22:14] schestowitz Miguel de Dreckaza hijacked it [22:14] XFaCE Cairo... which became some nebulous collection of technologies in Windows NT 4 maybe [22:14] schestowitz from OTHER Mexican devs who make a gnu/linux distro, nitrux [22:14] schestowitz they were as mad as hell! [22:14] XFaCE schestowitz: Let's face it though, this behaviour started as far back as the 80s with Xenix and later OS/2 [22:15] schestowitz yes [22:15] schestowitz openxml is antoher [22:15] schestowitz sounds like openoffice [22:15] XFaCE MS-DOS is a stepping stone to single user Xenix... oh just kidding OS/2 is the future. [22:15] schestowitz dozens of other examples [22:15] schestowitz we documented many [22:15] schestowitz it's intentional [22:15] schestowitz also some distro names [22:15] XFaCE Oh just kidding Windows NT is the future but MS-DOS upgrades in the interim [22:16] XFaCE Oh just kidding Windows is now bundled with DOS and hacked together to resemble a robust OS [22:16] schestowitz they know what they do [22:16] schestowitz it is deliberate and malicious [22:16] schestowitz they hijack distro names [22:16] schestowitz and call some lousy component in Windows that [22:16] XFaCE a few vapourware products is one thing [22:16] schestowitz when people search for the distro they get windows crap [22:16] Ariadne i just do not understand why so many people are enthusiastic about participating in a voluntary rootkit [22:16] XFaCE but almost every 5 years... [22:17] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [22:17] schestowitz Ariadne: pentesting? [22:17] Ariadne but like why windows of all things [22:17] Ariadne NT already has really good tracing [22:17] schestowitz remember chakra? [22:17] schestowitz guess who stole te brand? [22:17] schestowitz the distro then languished [22:18] *koo6 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:18] XFaCE for a decade MS co-opted HTML standards [22:18] XFaCE took several years after to repair the damage [22:18] XFaCE *web standards [22:19] XFaCE schestowitz: on a simlar topic IBM/Red Hat affiliated "communities" admitted in 2019 (IIRC) that VSC was proprietary [22:19] schestowitz-TR microsoft: we call our OWN things whatever tried to replace OUR things [22:19] schestowitz-TR they keep doing it [22:19] XFaCE after all those years of gaslighting [22:19] schestowitz-TR and they get away with it [22:19] schestowitz-TR because we don't register trademarks and enforce these [22:20] schestowitz-TR but they lawyer us up [22:20] schestowitz-TR call something "lindows" [22:20] XFaCE Specifically the Eclipse Foundation [22:20] schestowitz-TR get lawyered up [22:20] XFaCE schestowitz-TR: or use the term Win32 [22:20] XFaCE or variations of [22:21] schestowitz-TR wait till Microsoft misappropriates "MINT" [22:21] schestowitz-TR or whatever else becomes popular and poses a risk [22:21] schestowitz-TR Vista 12 codename "FEDORA" [22:22] schestowitz-TR maybe they'll also adopt a penguin logo [22:22] schestowitz-TR or a gentoo [22:22] schestowitz-TR to confuse people [22:22] XFaCE schestowitz-TR: Apple QuickTime already did that [22:23] Ariadne quacktime [22:24] schestowitz-TR XFaCE: penguin? [22:24] psydruid I didn't know QuickTime was still around [22:25] MinceR QuakeTime > QuickTime [22:25] XFaCE schestowitz-TR: back in the 90s [22:25] XFaCE 1997 or so [22:25] XFaCE https://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/81/Quicktime-logo.gif [22:25] XFaCE schestowitz-TR: in re: VSC proprietary [22:25] XFaCE https://searchsoftwarequality.techtarget.com/news/252499276/Eclipse-Foundation-aims-open-VS-Code-registry-at-Microsoft [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchsoftwarequality.techtarget.com | Eclipse Foundation aims open VS Code registry at Microsoft [22:26] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21070857 [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5658598) [22:26] techrights-news #monopolies trying to alter #patent #law in #scotus because they can afford it https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/fintiv-supreme-court.html [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | NHK-Fintiv at the Supreme Court | Patently-O [22:26] XFaCE schestowitz-TR: ""The VS Code binary itself is free, but not OSS [open source software], as Microsoft adds proprietary things to the build -- like telemetry -- when VS Code is shipped," he said. The free and open source software (FOSS) version of VS Code without the telemetry is called VSCodium. Yet even with VSCodium, developers can't build a full VS Code clone because some of the best parts of the lightweight code editor are not free or open source." [22:26] XFaCE Suddenly when other corporate affiliates say it, the previously stated arguments made become valid. [22:27] XRevan86 MinceR: Someone photographed CrystalMath? [22:27] techrights-news It certainly looks like #Bristows is still manipulating #KluwerPatentBlog for its #TeamUPC propaganda; #UPC cannot come into force because #UK is out... [22:29] techrights-news When #patent blogs become shameless #selfpromotion for those who run them and also pay #DennisCrouch for his shilling in #PatentlyO https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/mbhb-ptab-practice-update.html [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: MBHB PTAB Practice Update [22:31] techrights-news LOL. #apple is da best!! "their solutions can be as simple as just shutting down and powering up your computer." https://www.maketecheasier.com/no-camera-available-mac-os-x/ [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Camera Not Working or Available on Mac? Heres How to Fix It - Make Tech Easier [22:31] CrystalMath XRevan86: i don't get it :P [22:32] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye know, the COVID freedom thing. [22:32] CrystalMath heh :P [22:34] schestowitz XRevan86: Taft is a longtime Microsoft shill/booster [22:34] schestowitz hardly hiding it [22:34] schestowitz CrystalMath: respect our freedom NOT to have it [22:34] schestowitz as XRevan86 put it last year [22:34] schestowitz football stadiums full now [22:35] schestowitz with many COVIDiots thinking it's all behind us [22:35] schestowitz COVIDiots = the overconfident people who assume jab = I'm invulnerable [22:36] techrights-news #sature Uh oh! #Microsoft has their hands on the #SteamDeck ! #short - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BpPMzflM7QM #video #invidious [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Uh oh! Microsoft has their hands on the Steam Deck! #short - Invidious [22:37] sears_hardware when ever someone claims they are "apolitical" that's a big red flag that they are some kind of extremist xd [22:37] CrystalMath schestowitz: can you also be free from air? free from food? [22:37] CrystalMath you can't be free from nature [22:38] sears_hardware i thought covidiot meant people who assume they are invulnerable without the jab [22:38] CrystalMath so nature must be accepted as our ruler [22:38] sears_hardware have i been promoted? [22:38] CrystalMath we need to bow down to ti [22:38] CrystalMath *t [22:38] techrights-news "Predator-OS is a free and open-source secure Linux distro that is ideal for penetration testing, ethical hacking and digital forensics, but is also a great option for any user looking to improve his or her privacy and anonymity online with a security-centric, hardened OS." https://linuxsecurity.com/features/security-spotlight-experience-enhanced-privacy-security-with-predator-os [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Security Spotlight: Experience Enhanced Privacy & Security with P. [22:38] CrystalMath *it [22:38] sears_hardware nature doesn't care if you bow [22:38] sears_hardware nature only cares if you stuff your mouth with food [22:38] sears_hardware you could even take nutrients intravenously if you prefer [22:38] CrystalMath sears_hardware: i mean we have to accept it [22:38] CrystalMath as it is [22:38] CrystalMath if there's a virus, there's a virus [22:38] sears_hardware no but there's a point here [22:38] CrystalMath if you get it, you get it [22:38] schestowitz-TR sears_hardware: both can be covidiots [22:38] sears_hardware nature does not care if you "bow" [22:38] CrystalMath if you don't, you don't.. [22:39] sears_hardware nature does not demand a certain type of compliance [22:39] sears_hardware nature is flexible [22:39] CrystalMath sears_hardware: well i didn't mean literally [22:39] sears_hardware no but thi sis important [22:39] sears_hardware people say "oh nature works this way therefore you must do X" [22:39] sears_hardware but that's not true [22:39] sears_hardware nature works this way and that gives you choices [22:39] sears_hardware nature doesn't care what choice you make [22:39] sears_hardware nature doesn't demand you choose X, or that you choose Y [22:39] sears_hardware only that you choose X or Y [22:40] Ariadne CrystalMath: i think that COVID is nature's way of giving humanity an IQ test [22:40] techrights-news Michael Larabel: and now it's time for some commercials or infor-mmecials? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=silverstone-tp04&num=1 [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SilverStone TP04 M.2 SSD Cooling Review - Phoronix [22:40] Ariadne you will either be an idiot and get COVID and then possibly suffer complications, or you will be smart and take steps to avoid COVID exposure [22:40] techrights-news Slashdot covers #debian release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154502#comment-30565 [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [22:42] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it's worse [22:42] CrystalMath Ariadne: true, but someone here did correctly say that some people may get it innocently [22:42] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it punishes the poor [22:42] schestowitz-TR in two ways [22:42] schestowitz-TR 1. poor countries lack access to the patents and production [22:42] CrystalMath ulltiamtely nature doesn't really IQ test us, it just reduces our numbers sometimes [22:42] CrystalMath with floods, viruses, bacteria, parasites, tigers [22:42] CrystalMath hurricanes [22:42] CrystalMath tsunamis [22:42] schestowitz-TR 2. in rich countries the poorer people lack physical separation from other people and sanitation iw reose too [22:43] schestowitz-TR so covid is a wealth test [22:43] CrystalMath none of those are avoidable, he right way to "bow to nature" is to accept these things [22:43] schestowitz-TR more so than iq test [22:43] CrystalMath *the right way [22:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:44] activelow a german epidemiologist argued *everyone* will catch an infection (Lauterbach) [22:45] activelow even vaccination will not prevent this, it was only argued it supposedly prevented "severe conditions" [22:45] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:46] activelow which, i doubt can be verified, if vitamin intake, healthy nutrition, hygiene had a similar effect and a vaccination being unnecessary, don't know [22:46] techrights-news Dennis Crouch, with money in his pocket from #patent #litigation firm, promotes #patent extremism and the front group; academia too is being severely compromised by these #lobbyists and lawyers https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/quarterly-journal-editorial.html #AIPLA [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | AIPLA Quarterly Journal Editorial Board | Patently-O [22:46] CrystalMath over long periods of time you may notice that nature is eliminating more of the people that are not the smartest / strongest, but that's only on a global scale and only on long time periods, in the local scale, misfortune is seemingly entirely random [22:46] CrystalMath i don't question nature's wisdom, cause i know there isn't any, there's just no point to life at all [22:47] CrystalMath nihilism is the answer [22:47] sears_hardware CrystalMath: i'm pretty sure that at least some people have the option to move out of the path of an oncoming hurricane [22:47] sears_hardware so no idea where you got "entirely" random [22:47] activelow CrystalMath: don't think so, it isn't necessarily the brightest specimen of the population who survive a collapsing civilization or pandemic [22:47] CrystalMath sears_hardware: yeah, run from a hurricane straight into sudden pancreatic cancer... [22:47] CrystalMath activelow: oh, sure, pandemics are way too short term for that [22:47] CrystalMath activelow: i mean over millions of years [22:47] techrights-news A hired gun and liar of #TeamUPC , Charlotte Kilpatrick, is stepping down. Lying isn't easy when people call you out on it. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t35q48d48qqj/reflections-of-two-years-covering-intellectual-property #patents #upc [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Reflections of two years covering intellectual property | Managing Intellectual Property [22:47] CrystalMath activelow: then you can see evolution [22:48] CrystalMath and natural selection [22:48] CrystalMath on the short term scale it's impossible to see [22:48] activelow CrystalMath: germany was transformed into somethign completely different, in a few decades [22:48] CrystalMath rather we just die for no reason, as we live for no reason [22:49] activelow anyway, sorry for interrupting [22:49] CrystalMath the best way is to just accept the pointlessness of everything [22:49] CrystalMath what will be, will be [22:50] techrights-news Tons of people have left #managingip in recent years because being megaphones of #EPO crooks and #UPC liars isn't emotionally settling. [22:51] techrights-news Oh, gosh. Will they ever stop calling every computer program "Hey Hi" for hype factor's sake? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t31f3j967996/ai-authorship-where-do-we-go-from-here #india #copyright [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | AI authorship: where do we go from here? | Managing Intellectual Property [22:52] schestowitz CrystalMath: fight for something [22:52] schestowitz instead of standing for nothing [22:52] schestowitz pointlessness is playing computers all day lonmg [22:52] schestowitz or waking up just to get drunk/stones [22:52] schestowitz that's pointlessness [22:52] schestowitz and it can also be expensive and shoitens the life by a lot [22:53] XFaCE schestowitz: pointlessness is also wallowing in a sea of self-interest narcissism. [22:53] schestowitz Well, I smiled a bit about bill gates [22:53] schestowitz not the pie on the face moment [22:53] schestowitz but when I read he had fainted over the epstein news [22:54] XFaCE Didn't mean you, meant more of another behaviour to avoid [22:54] schestowitz I expect some sealed indictment if I were to make a good guess [22:54] XFaCE and you aren't a narcissist [22:54] schestowitz I know you didn't mean that [22:54] schestowitz techrights has many articles about narcissists [22:54] XFaCE just making sure, text ambiguity after all [22:54] schestowitz and explanation of how narcissist think and operate [22:55] MinceR 15 233528 <~schestowitz> COVIDiots = the overconfident people who assume jab = I'm invulnerable [22:55] MinceR there are other kinds of covidiots too [22:55] XFaCE Twitter has proven to amplify narcissistic tendencies quite effectively [22:55] MinceR like the ones who refuse to get vaccinated because they believe it contains a remote control chip or whatever [22:56] XFaCE schestowitz: the thing about the narcissist is it's a path of self-destruction path, as the narcissist will eventually be brought down by a stronger narcissist [22:56] XFaCE *-path [22:56] MinceR or they believe it contains the equivalent of a retrovirus [22:56] MinceR or CRISPR [22:57] techrights-news DOOM on a desk phone, and much MORE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154486#comment-30566 [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DOOM On A Desk Phone | Tux Machines [22:57] schestowitz Also divisive misinformation ---> [22:55] Twitter has proven to amplify narcissistic tendencies [22:58] schestowitz MinceR: some of them believe even nuttier things [22:58] schestowitz about mixed breeds with aliens or reptiles [22:58] schestowitz btw, some idiots are breeding pigs for organ harvesting [22:58] schestowitz putting human dna in them [22:58] MinceR interesting ● Aug 15 [23:00] schestowitz it's not succeding [23:00] schestowitz they keep trying [23:00] schestowitz and piglets suffer, then die young [23:00] schestowitz rianne sent me a video from aussie national tv [23:01] schestowitz she says covid is nice comeback for that [23:03] techrights-news What #orban land and corrupt #epo management have in common https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1096980/introduction-to-biological-deposits-at-the-european-patent-office-and-under-the-budapest-treaty [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Introduction To Biological Deposits At The European Patent Office And Under The Budapest Treaty - Intellectual Property - European Union [23:04] techrights-news In a democratic and functioning society it would be considered a God-like miracle that #epo management has not been detained, prosecuted and arrested just yet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [23:06] techrights-news There is no such thing as "IP teams" because "IP" is a misleading misnomer and this 'article' is filed under "Patents" so they very well it; #patents are not property https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t32mfw6j19ns/performance-reviews-how-to-get-the-most-from-an-ip-team [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Performance reviews: how to get the most from an IP team | Managing Intellectual Property [23:09] techrights-news Among those "1,8 billion websites" [sic] many are utter bloat and shit that spies on people and scams people. The #www needs to go away. It cannot be fixed anymore. Too late. Move gradually to something like #geminiProtocol https://www.modernghana.com/news/1096724/on-its-30th-anniversary-the-internet-now-has.html [23:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.modernghana.com/news/1096724/on-its-30th-anniversary-the-internet-now-has.html ) [23:11] techrights-news #google has mostly hijacked the #www through a #WebBrowser #monoculture (same thing #microsoft used to have), piggybacking free/libre s/w devs. #googleNews and search also became near monopolies and they serve plagiarism, e.g. #Bestgamingpro (they reward knockoffs) [23:13] techrights-news British sites hijacked by #law firms that lie about #patents for personal gain. Imagine #oil companies writing to explain to you #climatechange ... https://www.businessweekly.co.uk/blog/business-weekly-guest-blog/necessity-mother-invention [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessweekly.co.uk | Necessity the mother of invention? | Business Weekly | Technology News | Business news | Cambridge and the East of England [23:15] techrights-news #patent systems never looked this awful. #patents on #covid19 leave millions of people to die needlessly and now they try to tell us that giving #monopolies to bots is acceptable. https://theconversation.com/if-machines-can-be-inventors-could-ai-soon-monopolise-technology-165604 [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | If machines can be inventors, could AI soon monopolise technology? [23:17] techrights-news Of course this author, who works for a giant #litigation firm, won't tell readers (clients) that the Enlarged Board Of Appeal is a compromised, rigged court that's controlled by #criminals https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1101546/enlarged-board-of-appeal-to-consider-the-doctrine-of-plausibility see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Enlarged Board Of Appeal To Consider The Doctrine Of Plausibility - Intellectual Property - UK [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [23:18] techrights-news Given the awful quality of today's European #Patents , this does not deserve a press release https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/07/29/2271226/0/en/Kane-Biotech-Receives-Decisions-to-Grant-for-Two-European-Patents-Providing-Broad-Protection-of-coactiv-Technology-for-Wound-Care-Skin-Infections-and-Personal-Care-Formulations.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/ [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Kane Biotech Receives Decisions to Grant for Two European [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights [23:18] Despatche "Thaler received title because he owned and controlled DABUS, its code, and he possessed DABUS output: the invention." [23:18] Despatche lmao [23:18] Despatche this reads like "ai can invent and hold patents but they cannot be sued" [23:19] schestowitz-TR it's a farce [23:19] schestowitz-TR but the patent lawyers don't wish to admit it [23:19] schestowitz-TR they try to figure out how to make money from all this... [23:20] schestowitz-TR scratching their heads ... HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [23:20] schestowitz-TR maybe I should send a patent application signed by mickey mouse toi South Africa and Australia [23:20] schestowitz-TR see if or why they deny it [23:22] XFaCE maybe I should send a patent application signed by mickey mouse toi South Africa and Australia [23:22] Despatche i like how it's very specifically south africa and australia too [23:22] XFaCE for a design patent OF mickey mouse [23:24] psydruid Mickeysoft Mouseware [23:24] techrights-news #SouthAfrica and #Australia : when the #patent system and #patents or patent law GO SOUTH. [23:26] MinceR 16 001846 < Despatche> this reads like "ai can invent and hold patents but they cannot be sued" [23:26] MinceR wow, the next level [23:26] MinceR beyond corporations, that is [23:28] schestowitz MinceR: aussie judges http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/woke-orban.jpg [23:29] Despatche i mean, corporations are already a single individual demanding hundreds/thousands to work for them for scraps [23:29] Despatche getting rid of the humans and replacing them with ai is ez [23:29] Despatche butlerian jihad soon pls [23:29] techrights-news "Not everybody can snag $190k at 5YOE so congrats. IBM's still likely not going anywhere as a result. Most engineers don't qualify for top pay. I'm curious what area you are in." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ch7GvbR#replies [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is still just good enough to prevent me from leaving - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:30] techrights-news "Okay I guess I'm on the rare side then. I work on a half-decent product (IMO) and my team does well but the lack of motivation around here really sucks. I'm sorry if you aren't being paid fairly while I am being paid my personal market rate (could be higher but its all good)." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ckVW91L#replies [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Mass exodus - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:30] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@prm89ktp9i3xg.irc) has joined #techrights [23:32] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:33] techrights-news #Pine64 news roundup: PinePhone Keyboard goes on sale in September, Ubuntu Touch 20.04 is coming, and visual voicemail arrives http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154535 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pine64 news roundup: PinePhone Keyboard goes on sale in September, Ubuntu Touch 20.04 is coming, and visual voicemail arrives | Tux Machines [23:33] techrights-news #PineNote is a $399 E-ink Tablet that Runs Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154536 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PineNote is a $399 E-ink Tablet that Runs Linux | Tux Machines [23:34] techrights-news #HowTo play The #TalosPrinciple on #GNU #Linux https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/talos-principle-linux/ [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to play The Talos Principle on Linux [23:37] techrights-news "The life of a Linux user can be a bit difficult. Sometimes you have to or want to run Windows." NO, it is the being run over by Windows that's difficult. The sooner you dump Windows completely, life gets simpler on many levels. https://hackaday.com/2021/08/05/linux-fu-the-windows-x11-connection/ [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Fu: The Windows X11 Connection | Hackaday [23:39] techrights-news Departure of head of state (alleged head of state) of #afghanistan confirms what many Afghans already knew; he was all along somewhat of a puppet, with occupied Afghanistan a 'satellite state'; not that Taliban death cult is any better... [23:41] MinceR http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/holder-of-the-foundation [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scp-wiki.wikidot.com | Holder Of The Foundation - SCP Foundation [23:41] techrights-news US corporations outsource all the production, so why won't US empire try to also outsource the fighting and then sell ($) weapons to the 'contractors'? Or some "foreigners" who kill one another... sooner or later they will stop participating. Any country invaded by US turns into chaos, not democracy. [23:42] techrights-news #PostgreSQL Weekly News: "Security releases 13.4, 12.8, 11.13, 10.18, 9.6.23, and 14 Beta 3 released Please upgrade ASAP. The 9.6 series will stop getting fixes on November 11, 2021. Plan major version upgrades now." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-weekly-news-august-15-2021-2282/ [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Weekly News - August 15, 2021 [23:52] techrights-news What does one expect Dennis Crouch, funded by #patent litigation firms, to say about assertions that #patents harm #innovation in many areas? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/patents-negative-innovation.html [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Patents, Lock-In and Negative Innovation | Patently-O [23:54] techrights-news Conflating #innovation with #patents as usual https://investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com/investing/pandemic-provokes-acceleration-of-healthcare-innovation/ #patent #monopolies #epo http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investors-corner.bnpparibas-am.com | Pandemic provokes acceleration of healthcare innovation - Investors' Corner [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPOs Management Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights [23:55] techrights-news #Patents are not ownership and #DennisCrouch as a lecturer would know it, but he's taking kick-backs from #patent #litigation firms which sell lies and mislead legislators https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/ownership-opinion-judgments.html [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Patent Ownership and No Opinion Judgments | Patently-O [23:57] techrights-news Crouch continues to moan about non-scandals to obstruct justice http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ #patents #ptab #cafc #patent #law [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights