●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, October 15, 2021 ●● ● Oct 15 [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.38 swarm size (avg): 260.62 [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.38 swarm size (avg): 260.62 [00:02] techrights-news Even #MicrosoftTim seems to grasp that people should be fired or sued for deploying #Microsoft #Windows , more so when #ransom strike https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/googles_virustotal_malware see http://techrights.org/2020/05/31/windows-manslaughter/ [00:02] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/googles_virustotal_malware [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 95% of ransomware malware targets Windows The Register [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Windows Ransomware Must Not be Unspeakable When People Die in Large Numbers Due to That (and Windows Has Intentional Back Doors) | Techrights [00:03] techrights-news #france #epo #unifiedpatentcourt #teamupc #iloat http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-french-connection/ [00:06] techrights-news A Deep Dive Into The Sound Of An Apple II | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/a-deep-dive-into-the-sound-of-an-apple-ii/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Deep Dive Into The Sound Of An Apple II | Hackaday [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/10/15/ [00:06] techrights-news The #JackboxPartyPack 8 is out now with improved Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-jackbox-party-pack-8-is-out-now-with-improved-linux-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [00:06] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-jackbox-party-pack-8-is-out-now-with-improved-linux-support [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Jackbox Party Pack 8 is out now with improved Linux support | GamingOnLinux [00:07] techrights-news Weirdest #FileManager Youve Never Heard Of - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=awBe11Em4p8 #video #gnu #linux [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Weirdest File Manager You've Never Heard Of - Invidious [00:07] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [00:08] techrights-news #Missouri needs to get PWN3D very soon https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/14/far-right-missouri-governor-threatens-criminal-charges-against-reporter-for-telling-the-state-about-a-security-vulnerability/ [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Far-right Missouri Governor threatens criminal charges against reporter for telling the state about a security vulnerability. BaronHK's Rants [00:09] techrights-news Did the #EPO s overseeing body properly tackle #BenotBattistelli s illegal acts, authorised by that very same overseeing body? Dont hold your breath as #AntnioCampinos continues to crack down on staff (maybe #ILOAT will rule on it in 2030) http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-maladministration/ [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Another Maladministration Meeting Comes to an End | Techrights [00:10] techrights-news The #EPO s presidency (led by Frenchmen for nearly 15 years out of the past 18 years; #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos are both French despite their somewhat misleading surnames) is extremely unlikely to even be mildly scrutinised by the French delegates because of a web of #nepotism and #protectionism http://techrights.org/2021/10/14/epo-french-connection/ [00:11] techrights-news #microsoftTim is now #greenwashing #microsoft with misleading headline. Link omitted, but #linuxfoundation does the same: http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights [00:13] techrights-news Lots and lots of #microsoft #googlebombing of the word "Linux" this past week. What's ours is ours and what's yours is ours, too... [00:15] techrights-news Almost 30,000 page requests/day in the past two days over gemini:// in #techrights (just Gemini). If that was to persist, it's like a million pages per month or getting there. #geminiSpace growing fast! [00:18] techrights-news The Compute Module Comes Of Age: Say Hello To The Real Cutting Edge Of #RaspberryPi | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/the-compute-module-comes-of-age-say-hello-to-the-real-cutting-edge-of-raspberry-pi/ #hackaday #gnu #linux [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Compute Module Comes Of Age: Say Hello To The Real Cutting Edge Of Raspberry Pi | Hackaday [00:18] MinceR 15 003515 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: why? [00:18] MinceR to improve one's chances of finding something that others may want to suppress [00:19] MinceR the more engines you use the more difficult it becomes to hide certain sites [00:19] schestowitz-TR I don't know how searx works [00:19] schestowitz-TR but then again [00:19] schestowitz-TR I try to limit my use of web search [00:19] schestowitz-TR if I can do local searches. [00:19] schestowitz-TR e.g. techrights and wikipedia [00:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rgx3zw52mzcp6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:19] schestowitz-TR www is a censorship blackbox or denybox [00:21] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 Review - A risk-free transition release (+flavors) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SXfpbsCXUmE #video #gnu #linux [00:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 21.10 Review - A risk-free transition release (+flavors) - Invidious [00:22] techrights-news The New #Radeon RX 6600: WILL IT LINUX? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kBHImsEFPaw #video #gnu #linux [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The New Radeon RX 6600: WILL IT LINUX? - Invidious [00:23] techrights-news Some more late coverage of latest #Ubuntu release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31375 #gnu #linux [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [00:26] techrights-news This is not even REMOTELY competitive with ARM SBCs https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/13/beelink-u59-celeron-n5095-jasper-lake-mini-pc-to-ship-with-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd/ "The mini PC ships with Windows 10 Pro and supports Ubuntu Linux." So it's coming with MALWARE as OBLIGATORY. Why did #cnx cover this??? [00:26] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/13/beelink-u59-celeron-n5095-jasper-lake-mini-pc-to-ship-with-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd/ [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink U59 Celeron N5095 Jasper Lake mini PC ships with up to 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD - CNX Software [00:28] techrights-news They make is sound like #Ubuntu is supported but any other #GNU / #Linux distro is not https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/ [00:28] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/ [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/signage-player-taps-ryzen-v2000-for-video-wall-displays/ ) [00:31] techrights-news "On the 4th and the 5th of October 2021, the Web & Design team ran a remote Hackathon. The theme of it was to build tools that would make our life easier at Canonical." https://ubuntu.com//blog/top-6-projects-from-our-hackathon [00:31] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/top-6-projects-from-our-hackathon [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 6 projects from our Hackathon | Ubuntu [00:32] techrights-news Mir 2.5, incorporating new features to improve the development of embedded graphic applications | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/mir-2-5-enhancing-digital-signage-and-smart-screen-development #ubuntu | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [00:32] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/mir-2-5-enhancing-digital-signage-and-smart-screen-development [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mir 2.5, incorporating new features to improve the development of embedded graphic applications | Ubuntu [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:40] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:41] techrights-news MS keynote at ClownNativeCon https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-kubecon-na2021 see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [00:41] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-kubecon-na2021 [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical Presence at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon NA: Keynote by Founder/CEO Mark Shuttleworth, Announcement of Ubuntu 21.10 Beta | Ubuntu [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [00:42] techrights-news #gnu #linux as 'go-to' platform for everything. https://ubuntu.com//blog/driving-innovation-in-autonomous-mobile-robots-university-of-hawaii-hits-indy-500 they could choose better distros, but... [00:42] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/driving-innovation-in-autonomous-mobile-robots-university-of-hawaii-hits-indy-500 [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Driving innovation in autonomous mobile robots University of Hawaii hits Indy 500 | Ubuntu [00:44] techrights-news "ICOPs EBOX-IMX8MM embedded computer runs #Android 9 or #Linux on an i.MX8M Mini with up to 4GB LPDDR4 and 64GB eMMC plus 2x GbE, 3x USB, 4x COM, WiFi/BT, and a 12-36V input." https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/ [00:44] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/ [00:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/i-mx8m-mini-based-mini-pc-starts-at-305/ ) [00:46] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:46] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.116.141) has joined #techrights [00:48] techrights-news Connect your space heater to the Arduino Clown and control it via #pentagon #listeningDevices | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/13/connect-your-space-heater-to-the-arduino-cloud-and-control-it-via-alexa/ #Arduino #Hardware [00:48] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/13/connect-your-space-heater-to-the-arduino-cloud-and-control-it-via-alexa/ [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Connect your space heater to the Arduino Cloud and control it via Alexa | Arduino Blog [00:50] techrights-news Respin of #openSUSE Leap Images are Coming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156797 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #SUSE [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Respin of openSUSE Leap Images are Coming | Tux Machines [00:51] techrights-news Implementing form filling and accessibility in the #Firefox #PDF viewer https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/10/14/implementing-form-filling-and-accessibility-in-the-firefox-pdf-viewer/ #mozilla #security [00:51] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/10/14/implementing-form-filling-and-accessibility-in-the-firefox-pdf-viewer/ [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Implementing form filling and accessibility in the Firefox PDF viewer Attack & Defense [00:55] techrights-news #microsoft has one last resort (other than getting bailouts via #pentagon budget): Register as a religion and chase down Microsoft critics for "offence" and #blasphemy [00:58] *techrights_guest|56 (~4e935ecd@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] *techrights_guest|56 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Oct 15 [01:00] techrights-news #mozilla : WE ARE GOOD AT WEB THINGS! Also Mozilla: we've outsourced our Web site to #clownflare (no, we don't know how to set up a server or CDN) [01:01] techrights-news #Monopolies bad. https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/amazon_india_antitrust/ [01:01] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/amazon_india_antitrust/ [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amazon accused of copying merchant products in India The Register [01:03] techrights-news #microsoft has bribed for fake reviews for decades https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/fake_reviews_ftc/ examples: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing [01:03] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/fake_reviews_ftc/ [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | FTC warns that fake reviews will be punished The Register [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights [01:03] techrights-news #theregister also #outsourced itself to the US. Domain says co.uk but the site is served by #Surveillance Giant #clownflare [01:04] techrights-news #Integrity and #Security Issues http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Integrity and Security Issues | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-news #xorgserver 21.0.99.902 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156799 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | xorg-server 21.0.99.902 | Tux Machines [01:06] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:07] techrights-news #linuxfoundation : pay us money so that we can buy media coverage to promote your brand. We'll call this "Linux" "success", but we're in effect a PR company for #monopolies [01:08] techrights-news Missing options: none or landline. https://www.makeuseof.com/best-phones-for-privacy/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 4 Most Secure Phones for Privacy [01:09] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:11] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2pqswvqs968ja.irc) has joined #techrights [01:11] techrights-news This make it sound like a #Python issue, but it is a #ProprietarySoftware issue completely irrelevant tot he #programming language https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-python-based-ransomware-encrypts-vms-quickly/ [01:11] -altlink_1b0/#techrights- Cloudflare: esecurityplanet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-python-based-ransomware-encrypts-vms-quickly/ [01:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Python-based Ransomware Encrypts Virtual Machines Quickly | eSecurityPlanet [01:13] techrights-news #KuberLogic needs to #deletegithub to be taken more seriously https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/10/13/kuberlogic-paas/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | KuberLogic open-source platform turns infrastructure into a managed PaaS - Help Net Security [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [01:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 22.06 swarm size (avg): 260.61 [01:19] *altlink_1b0 has quit (connection closed) [01:19] *altlink_6b2 (~altlink_6b2@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:27] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[02:06] DaemonFC As well as Hosts files. [02:17] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/microsofts-first-windows-11-update-addresses-amd-cpu-scheduling-problems-ends-up-making-them-worse/ [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsofts first Windows 11 update addresses AMD CPU scheduling problems. Ends up making them worse. BaronHK's Rants [02:18] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.88 swarm size (avg): 260.59 [02:22] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:30] betsy Let the record show that I'm saying fuck this place [02:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I think you have an anonymous fan again. [02:34] betsy Nat and Miguel are fucked up for their own reasons, but this place is trash [02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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BBC News [06:44] techrights-news NEWS #MontrealGazette #Surveillance #Privacy Mafia bosses worry for future as 'soft' millennial mobsters prefer texting to pistol-whipping https://montrealgazette.com/news/world/mafia-bosses-worry-for-future-as-soft-millennial-mobsters-prefer-texting-to-pistol-whipping [06:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-montrealgazette.com | Mafia bosses worry for future as 'soft' millennial mobsters prefer texting to pistol-whipping | Montreal Gazette [06:45] techrights-news com [06:45] techrights-news NEWS #ITWire #Surveillance #Privacy Tech industry bodies urge government to revise emergency powers bill https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/tech-industry-bodies-urge-government-to-revise-emergency-powers-bill.html [06:45] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/tech-industry-bodies-urge-government-to-revise-emergency-powers-bill.html [06:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Tech industry bodies urge government to revise emergency powers bill [06:51] techrights-news NEWS #Joinup The French public administration is opening up public data, algorithms and source codes. https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-open-data-and-public-algorithms-france [06:51] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-open-data-and-public-algorithms-france [06:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Open source, open data and public algorithms in France | Joinup [06:51] techrights-news #china #censorship by #microsoft ... now as a "product" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/576821-microsoft-shutting-down-linkedin-in-china-to-offer-new-app [06:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft shutting down LinkedIn in China, to offer new app | TheHill [06:52] psydruid betsy was here [06:52] psydruid https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2021/09/11/the-inconvenient-truth-about-windows-11-malware/ [06:52] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2021/09/11/the-inconvenient-truth-about-windows-11-malware/ [06:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Inconvenient Truth About Windows 11 [06:53] psydruid send in the bribe money [06:53] schestowitz-TR psydruid: ? [06:53] schestowitz-TR what conext? [06:53] schestowitz-TR '11'? [06:53] schestowitz-TR Winder is a Microsoft shill [06:53] schestowitz-TR for about a decader already [06:54] schestowitz-TR without even clicking I know he's be shilling it [06:54] schestowitz-TR *he'd [06:55] psydruid schestowitz-TR, it was linked from a comment in an article you posted from the register about Google finding 95% of malware on Windows [06:55] schestowitz-TR psydruid: oh, I see what you mean now [06:56] schestowitz-TR I scrolled up a bit [06:56] schestowitz-TR if people are attacked for saying Torvalds is not sexist, that means facts are out the windows [06:57] schestowitz-TR psydruid: someone from Microsoft (former) told me about the Google ransom article [06:57] schestowitz-TR so I linked to it [06:57] schestowitz-TR later I saw it in my feeds regardless [06:57] psydruid the main thing I got from this is that Vista 11 is already dealing with malware, so maybe hence the media offensive to make it look as if people may want it [06:58] psydruid but that doesn't seem to be the case [06:58] psydruid lots of people are outright rejecting it [06:58] psydruid and not just threatening but actually moving to GNU/Linux [06:59] psydruid shaming people for not having new enough hardware isn't going to work [06:59] psydruid also TPM is just another faade, it's not going to help ● Oct 15 [07:00] psydruid and when even Vista shills say so, the end is coming [07:01] schestowitz-TR TPM is not news [07:01] schestowitz-TR Vista is not new [07:01] schestowitz-TR and this this PR hardly gained them anything [07:01] schestowitz-TR like I said the other day [07:01] schestowitz-TR based on figures from the Web at least [07:01] schestowitz-TR they blew tons of money [07:02] schestowitz-TR they cannot do this every week [07:02] psydruid I already see the PR dying down [07:02] schestowitz-TR yeah [07:02] schestowitz-TR they then used WSL [07:02] schestowitz-TR WSL.. something 11 [07:03] schestowitz-TR then Windows Store... something WSL [07:03] schestowitz-TR now there are a few smaller googlebombing waves [07:03] schestowitz-TR they pay for it [07:03] schestowitz-TR maybe helped distract from Ubuntu 21.10 [07:03] schestowitz-TR OpenBSD 7.0 [07:03] schestowitz-TR Devuan 4.0 [07:03] schestowitz-TR etc. [07:04] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Censorship House Democrats announce bill to rein in tech algorithms https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/576729-house-democrats-announce-bill-to-rein-in-tech-algorithms [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House Democrats announce bill to rein in tech algorithms | TheHill [07:04] techrights-news NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Censorship Freedom of speech should not be restricted lightly https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/freedom-speech-should-not-be-restricted-lightly [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Freedom of speech should not be restricted lightly | Times Higher Education (THE) [07:04] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Censorship Georgias University System Takes On Tenure https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/us/georgia-university-system-tenure.html [07:04] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/13/us/georgia-university-system-tenure.html [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Georgias University System Takes On Tenure - The New York Times [07:04] techrights-news NEWS #NPR #Censorship Todd Haynes' new film takes us deep into The Velvet Underground https://text.npr.org/1045716558 [07:04] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1045716558 [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Todd Haynes' new film takes us deep into The Velvet Underground [07:08] activelow gnu/linux worked hard to accomodate those who expect vista style software [07:09] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Hollywood and Netflix Signal "Piracy as a Service" (PaaS) as New Threat Vector https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-netflix-signal-piracy-as-a-service-paas-as-new-threat-vector/ [07:09] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-netflix-signal-piracy-as-a-service-paas-as-new-threat-vector/ [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hollywood and Netflix Signal "Piracy as a Service" (PaaS) as New Threat Vector * TorrentFreak [07:09] schestowitz-TR activelow: there was "Linux Vista" [07:09] schestowitz-TR IIRC [07:09] schestowitz-TR But I suppose you collectively refer to all post-XP releases [07:09] activelow my idea is slighlty different, because i think vista style consumerist are unavoidable, and i think it would have been better to keep them out of gnu/linux [07:09] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Hollywood and Publisher Injunctions Lead to New UK ISP Piracy Blocks https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-publisher-injunctions-lead-to-new-uk-isp-piracy-blocks-211014/ [07:09] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-publisher-injunctions-lead-to-new-uk-isp-piracy-blocks-211014/ [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hollywood and Publisher Injunctions Lead to New UK ISP Piracy Blocks * TorrentFreak [07:10] activelow schestowitz-TR: well, i am referring to all WindowsNT (openvms) type systems [07:11] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Should we teach AI and ML differently to other areas of computer science? A challenge https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/research-seminar-data-centric-ai-ml-teaching-in-school/ [07:11] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/research-seminar-data-centric-ai-ml-teaching-in-school/ [07:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Should we teach AI and ML differently to other areas of computer science? A challenge - Raspberry Pi [07:11] schestowitz-TR activelow: ah, OK [07:11] activelow GNU/linux tries to accomodate those who felt comfortable with WinNT, with a result i am not happy with [07:11] schestowitz-TR not sure about it [07:12] schestowitz-TR many distros try to copy OS X, which in turn copies others [07:12] schestowitz-TR and Windows copies KDE a lot [07:12] activelow because, for the reasons i reject WinNT and micorosft, same criteria are valid for any other system [07:12] schestowitz-TR also, iOS and then Android 'copied' Palm OS [07:12] activelow and it is both: particular business habits of microsoft, and particular design principles of operating systems to accomodate consumers [07:13] techrights-news iophk: The press is helping Apple rename installation to "sideloading", in an effort to change public expectations about control of the devices [07:13] schestowitz x https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/how_ntfs_finally_made_it/ [07:13] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/how_ntfs_finally_made_it/ [07:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | How Windows NTFS finally made it into Linux The Register [07:13] schestowitz # useless spam about a useless, outdated file system [07:14] psydruid how NTFS finally made it ... from the cradle to the grave? [07:15] techrights-news #microsofr #censorship for/in #china https://www.ktbs.com/news/business/microsoft-shutting-down-linkedin-app-in-china-amid-scrutiny/article_ecc36684-eb68-542f-abf5-66c292b09279.html [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft shutting down LinkedIn app in China amid scrutiny | Business | ktbs.com [07:15] schestowitz-TR psydruid: wa I don't know anyone who would willingly use that [07:37] psydruid I think I used Teams twice from a browser, but it's basically pushing things that already have free alternatives such as IRC, Jitsi etc. [07:37] schestowitz-TR bundling [07:37] activelow remember their decision concerning Internet Explorer bundled? as if choosing Mozilla had changed anything, the EU decision barely scratched the surface of interests involved [07:37] schestowitz-TR they need to also look into EPO [07:37] schestowitz-TR but they are not going to [07:38] schestowitz-TR activelow: it's political [07:38] schestowitz-TR the handling of it [07:38] schestowitz-TR they just need to keep x people bribed [07:38] schestowitz-TR and they are offthe hook [07:38] activelow if EU had decided, for example, vendor-independent criteria must exist to comply with, otherwise vendors were *forbidden* to supply schools, universities and public institutions [07:39] activelow in fact, even without EU ruling, specific consumer protection among other legisltion might suffice already all IBM Wintel PC microsoft products had to be removed from schools and universities [07:39] activelow so, instead EU "sanctioning" IBM Wintel PC microsoft products, they somehow legitimize this, with an argument implied this problem was dealt with already [07:39] activelow although it hasn't been [07:40] schestowitz-TR EU auths are useless for competiton [07:41] schestowitz-TR at the end we need to drive change without the beurocrats [07:41] schestowitz-TR boycotts are one means [07:41] schestowitz-TR *bureaucrats [07:41] activelow difficulty, boycott exactly whom or what? the malicious products and business habits are common everywhere [07:42] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #ALPR #California Activists Sue Marin County Sheriff for Illegally Sharing Drivers License Plate Data With ICE, CBP and Other Out-of-State Agencies https://www.eff.org/press/releases/california-activists-sue-marin-county-sheriff-illegally-sharing-drivers-license-plate [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | California Activists Sue Marin County Sheriff for Illegally Sharing Drivers License Plate Data With ICE, CBP and Other Out-of-State Agencies | Electronic Frontier Foundation [07:42] psydruid Microsoft perpetuated IBM and DEC's position into the modern era, but we have a chance to beat them and kill the VMS line of operating systems and applications and middleware forever [07:43] activelow no, i think what must be prevented is particular vendors *enforcing* their products onto those who deny them [07:43] psydruid they are only still alive because it's incompatible with anything else out there, making it harder to move software over [07:43] psydruid you have to start somewhere [07:43] schestowitz-TR at least we can recognise the barrier IBM too has become [07:44] schestowitz-TR BTW, you won't see any more thelayoff links here [07:44] schestowitz-TR hopefully never [07:44] schestowitz-TR they went overboard with censorship [07:45] schestowitz-TR so now it's hard for me to know if and when IBM lays off whole teams and groups surgically while glaslighting what's left of the "media" [07:45] schestowitz-TR IBM is openwashing mainframes [07:45] psydruid and the operating system is often the biggest barrier, as applications are intentionally tied to it [07:45] schestowitz-TR when in fact overtime POWER got more proprietary [07:45] schestowitz-TR and IBM still tries to leverage monopoly power [07:45] schestowitz-TR LF does this openwashing [07:45] psydruid "Open"POWER [07:45] schestowitz-TR disguised as "open" and "ethics" [07:46] schestowitz-TR sometimes I wonder if IBM has 2-3 times more power over LF than Microsoft [07:46] activelow problem is, any corporation which played fair has a severe competitive disadvantage [07:46] schestowitz-TR Intel was an OSDL handler and still has tons of power over LF. Intel also works for Microsoft. [07:46] psydruid Raptor is helping them by being useful idiots, even though their intentions may be in principle noble [07:46] schestowitz-TR TALOS [07:47] schestowitz-TR yes, I mentioned that the other day [07:47] schestowitz-TR I can find/locate the context [07:47] schestowitz-TR some people blow tons of money on these things [07:47] schestowitz-TR like they'e finding "Freedom" [07:47] schestowitz-TR and all they get is IBM as their master [07:48] Ariadne talos is joke [07:48] psydruid I found it hilarious when they started selling the systems and I find it hilarious now [07:48] Ariadne openpower is total shit [07:48] Ariadne you can get the same level of openness from ARM [07:48] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: I did not know [07:48] Ariadne """openness""" [07:49] Ariadne risc-v is what we should be pushing [07:49] psydruid ARM assembly also looks much nicer than POWER assembly [07:49] schestowitz-TR a few years ago with pleroma.site you tried to transition to POWER and has IBM reps over [07:49] Ariadne :D [07:49] schestowitz-TR so you would know how performant those things are [07:49] schestowitz-TR I remember them locking up or something [07:49] Ariadne quite performant, when you do not have buggy firmware and defective system board [07:50] schestowitz-TR is what IBM hopes to distract from --> [07:49] risc-v is what we should be pushing [07:50] Ariadne after three (3!) replacements, i finally got a POWER9 machine that actually worked [07:50] schestowitz-TR openMicrosoft [07:50] schestowitz-TR openUEFI [07:50] schestowitz-TR openFSF [07:50] Ariadne tbh UEFI is not that bad [07:50] schestowitz-TR openGNU [07:50] Ariadne okay, it is pretty bad [07:50] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: not uefi itself [07:50] schestowitz-TR but some antifeatures of it [07:50] schestowitz-TR it's also too complex [07:50] schestowitz-TR those things should stay simple [07:50] schestowitz-TR and now network-accessible [07:50] Ariadne the only antifeature is that microsoft is the only default root of trust [07:50] schestowitz-TR *not [07:51] schestowitz-TR and not possible for the OS to modify [07:51] Ariadne but, admittedly, that is a hard one to solve [07:51] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: Windows has bug doors [07:51] Ariadne if you do your security based on PKI anyway [07:51] schestowitz-TR and then they tell us about bootkits [07:51] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:51] schestowitz-TR like a home with a front door wide open bragging about the alarm system [07:51] Ariadne the Apple M1 has totally open secure boot [07:52] Ariadne the way it works is very simple [07:52] Ariadne you just enroll the hash of the next boot payload [07:52] schestowitz-TR m1 is even more restrictive [07:52] Ariadne nah, it's not [07:52] schestowitz-TR for mac os users it has spying 'features' too [07:52] schestowitz-TR so it's another bag of worms [07:52] Ariadne the hardware side is totally fine [07:52] schestowitz-TR also, it pays a company that treats everyone like a pedopile [07:52] schestowitz-TR *phile [07:53] Ariadne it is more "restrictive" in that secure boot is enabled and cannot be disabled, but the end-user may install whatever payload she wishes [07:53] Ariadne so, for example, to run Linux on M1 [07:53] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: I'd rather give money to more modest chip makers [07:53] schestowitz-TR sadly, arm might eventually be nvidia (still) [07:53] Ariadne you install m1n1 bootloader on the machine, and enroll its hash in secure boot [07:53] Ariadne and after that, you're done [07:53] Ariadne never have to touch the system firmware ever again [07:53] schestowitz-TR but you still pay apple [07:54] Ariadne better them than intel/microsoft [07:54] schestowitz-TR like people who buy "mac" PCs for gnu/linux [07:54] schestowitz-TR we need to move towards support of OEMs committed to freedom [07:54] schestowitz-TR some do exist [07:54] schestowitz-TR yes, many use AMD or Intel chips [07:54] Ariadne sure, there's multiple gambits at play here [07:54] schestowitz-TR the more I use non-x86 the more I like it [07:55] schestowitz-TR like my fanless laptop [07:55] Ariadne M1 is a path to getting reasonably free, user-controlled hardware *now* [07:55] Ariadne that is actually performant [07:55] Ariadne and cheap [07:55] *leah (~leah@4mgpjh8254w48.irc) has joined #techrights [07:55] schestowitz-TR only apple can sell these [07:55] schestowitz-TR and by giving money to apple we feed the wrong company [07:55] Ariadne the companies we want to feed aren't making viable kit yet, as riscv64 CPUs aren't there yet [07:56] Ariadne probably in 2022 though [07:56] schestowitz-TR anyway, chip shortage :-) [07:56] Ariadne but for now, if you want fastest possible performance with minimal freedom loss, M1 really is the best bet. it's sad, but it's also the truth [07:56] schestowitz-TR I think I have enough chips at home for now [07:57] schestowitz-TR to last me another decade assuming I can reuse bits [07:57] Ariadne if you do not need performance, then buy libreboot hardware, that's another good option [07:57] schestowitz-TR where can I buy m1 chip? [07:57] Ariadne the only competitive ARM silicon to M1 is by qualcomm, and that is far more locked down [07:58] psydruid it's not about M1, it's about all other companies dropping the ball [07:58] Ariadne ^ [07:58] psydruid if those had competitive chips, we wouldn't be talking about M1 in the first place [07:59] Ariadne exactly, nobody would care about M1 [07:59] schestowitz-TR anyway, paying $1000 for a chip seems unreasonable [07:59] schestowitz-TR I can get 10 arm laptops for that price [07:59] Ariadne you're not paying $1000 for an M1 machine [07:59] Ariadne you can get a mac mini for like $499 [07:59] schestowitz-TR still expensive [07:59] schestowitz-TR and it's "low end" [07:59] Ariadne not for what you get performance wise [07:59] Ariadne nah [07:59] schestowitz-TR by Apple's own standards ● Oct 15 [08:00] Ariadne by their standards, yes [08:00] Ariadne by the rest of the playing field, no [08:00] schestowitz-TR my main laptop was 200 pounds [08:00] Ariadne almost all other ARM silicon that isn't qualcomm is still cortex-a72 crap [08:00] Ariadne some of the chromebooks are cortex-a76 [08:01] schestowitz-TR yes [08:01] schestowitz-TR but... [08:01] Ariadne but mt8172 SoC has a GPU which will never be RE'd because there is no value [08:01] schestowitz-TR for many purposes that is enough [08:01] Ariadne M1 is basically 4x faster [08:01] Ariadne than cortex-a72 [08:01] schestowitz-TR even for video editing if you get enough of them [08:01] Ariadne on a *single* efficiency core [08:01] schestowitz-TR what software do people use? CNN.com? :-) [08:01] schestowitz-TR 'crypto' mining/ [08:02] schestowitz-TR games? [08:02] schestowitz-TR a lot of gpu-intensive stuff [08:02] schestowitz-TR not cpu [08:02] Ariadne yes, and ARM's Mali GPU is shit [08:02] schestowitz-TR and the gameplay sucks [08:02] Ariadne M1 has a decent GPU on the SoC [08:02] Ariadne there's a reason why all these people are hacking on it [08:03] activelow performance/watt it is [08:03] schestowitz-TR for people who put vanilla debian on it [08:03] Ariadne its not because they love apple, but because apple is the only vendor offering anything with compelling economics and performance [08:03] schestowitz-TR but they help apple make sales [08:03] Ariadne and no bullshit secure boot lockdown like qualcomm [08:03] activelow and i do not trust AppleM1, couldn't review firmware/init of it yet, doubt it is free and open [08:03] Ariadne again, apple's "secure boot" is: you enroll the hash of whatever you're booting, and the system firmware checks the hash before chainloading to it [08:03] schestowitz-TR qualcomm and apple both harm us with patents [08:04] schestowitz-TR qualcomm does its own unique bad things, as does apple.. [08:04] schestowitz-TR that's like buying Microsoft 'Surface' for some reason [08:04] schestowitz-TR better not do that at all [08:04] activelow ok, however i do not trust the entire firmware, regardless of securboot implementation details [08:04] Ariadne activelow: that's the entire firmware [08:04] schestowitz-TR "secure boot" is worthless for many reasons [08:04] Ariadne there is nothing like BIOS or UEFI on M1 [08:05] schestowitz-TR notably, those who promote it don't care for security in the first place [08:05] Ariadne the M1 firmware is basically apple's take on uboot [08:05] schestowitz-TR it's about cracking down on computers that let the owners, eeerm, own them [08:05] Ariadne it doesn't even know what USB or wifi or nvme is [08:05] schestowitz-TR and instead dictate what "secure" means [08:05] schestowitz-TR like Apple scanning things [08:05] activelow ok, so there's no free and open u-boot for apple-m1 (not talking about a chainloaded u-boot loader) [08:06] Ariadne well, of course not [08:06] Ariadne but the bootloader is burned into mask rom anyway [08:06] Ariadne it can't be upgraded by anyone [08:06] Ariadne so really M1 meets FSF RYF certification ^_^ [08:06] activelow doubt it [08:06] Ariadne no, really, it does [08:07] schestowitz-TR I personally antagonise "advancement" based on the argument of "new" or "powerful" alone...that's why we ended with "sites" that take up 500MB of RAM [08:07] Ariadne if nobody can upgrade it, then there is no freedom issue, go read the RYF certification guidelines [08:07] schestowitz-TR thunderbird now takes up 1.5GB of RAM to open [08:07] Ariadne it is "just a circuit" as far as FSF is concerned [08:07] schestowitz-TR settles after that [08:07] schestowitz-TR I used to use that on a PC with 32MB or RAM total, for everything inc. OS [08:08] schestowitz-TR [08:06] so really M1 meets FSF RYF certification ^_^ [08:08] Ariadne (but Ariadne, there is a graphical boot menu that you can open on the M1) [08:08] schestowitz-TR I will believe it when I see it [08:08] schestowitz-TR they probably would find many other issues [08:08] Ariadne well, the default OS it comes with obviously does not RYF [08:08] Ariadne but if somebody took M1s, and Asahized them, it would RYF [08:08] schestowitz-TR there is that... [08:09] Ariadne anyway, the stuff you would normally expect in UEFI [08:09] Ariadne on the M1 [08:09] Ariadne is done by the second stage bootloader [08:09] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship Content Moderation Case Study: Tumblr's Approach To Adult Content (2013) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/15203647750/content-moderation-case-study-tumblrs-approach-to-adult-content-2013.shtml [08:09] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/15203647750/content-moderation-case-study-tumblrs-approach-to-adult-content-2013.shtml [08:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Study: Tumblr's Approach To Adult Content (2013) | Techdirt [08:09] Ariadne which is literally a micro MacOS image [08:09] Ariadne stored on emmc flash [08:09] Ariadne you can totally replace that today [08:09] Ariadne if you want [08:09] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trademark #Trademarks Public Backlash Leads Tulsa Park To Stop Bullying Coffee Shop Over Trademark https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211013/09434247741/public-backlash-leads-tulsa-park-to-stop-bullying-coffee-shop-over-trademark.shtml [08:09] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211013/09434247741/public-backlash-leads-tulsa-park-to-stop-bullying-coffee-shop-over-trademark.shtml [08:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Public Backlash Leads Tulsa Park To Stop Bullying Coffee Shop Over Trademark | Techdirt [08:09] Ariadne it is pretty funny honestly [08:10] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: you need Apple to license it [08:10] schestowitz-TR unless they do, m1 is 100% apple [08:10] Ariadne license what? [08:10] Ariadne yes, we agree that m1 is 100% apple cpu [08:10] schestowitz-TR in which case, that's not freedom [08:10] Ariadne just like intel core i7 [08:10] Ariadne is 100% intel cpu [08:10] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: licence of reuse for example [08:10] Ariadne what is your point [08:10] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [08:10] schestowitz-TR m1 is a monopoly [08:10] Ariadne m1 is an implementation of ARM [08:10] Ariadne buy a license from ARM [08:10] Ariadne make your own CPU [08:10] schestowitz-TR make one should [08:10] schestowitz-TR apple's is apple's [08:11] Ariadne yes, just like intel core i7 is intel's [08:11] Ariadne and amd ryzen is amd's [08:11] schestowitz-TR yup [08:11] Ariadne the underlying ISA is licensable though [08:11] schestowitz-TR m1 is not [08:11] schestowitz-TR so you are locked into one vendor [08:11] schestowitz-TR and not an ethical one at that [08:11] Ariadne what? [08:12] schestowitz-TR apple promotes many bad things outside chips [08:12] Ariadne this is like saying that x86 is not open because intel won't license their CPU design [08:12] psydruid Allwinner, Rockchip, Mediatek, Amlogic, Qualcomm ... [08:12] Ariadne there is no shortage of competing ARM chips out there [08:13] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Internet #Broadband Data Caps Mysteriously Disappear When Competition Comes Knocking https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211012/06552747733/broadband-data-caps-mysteriously-disappear-when-competition-comes-knocking.shtml [08:13] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211012/06552747733/broadband-data-caps-mysteriously-disappear-when-competition-comes-knocking.shtml [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Broadband Data Caps Mysteriously Disappear When Competition Comes Knocking | Techdirt [08:13] Ariadne i mean, admittedly, most of them are crappy cortex-a72 derivatives [08:13] schestowitz-TR apple m1: starting point of $500 [08:13] activelow opencores.org documents what's free and opensource, and what's missing [08:13] Ariadne and most of them do not use IOMMUs to properly contain I/O accesses [08:13] schestowitz-TR rasp: starting price around $50 [08:13] Ariadne yes [08:13] schestowitz-TR even less for older models, 35 pouns [08:13] Ariadne and [08:13] schestowitz-TR *pounds [08:13] Ariadne its the same shit [08:14] activelow even if an instruction set architecture ws free and opensource, a full SoC design contains many more components [08:14] Ariadne activelow: yes, and full SoC designs [08:14] Ariadne can be purchased from dozens of vendors [08:14] Ariadne if you don't like M1, go buy a raspberry pi [08:14] schestowitz-TR for $499 I get all my PCs, 4 of them [08:14] Ariadne the performance even on rpi4 won't be anywhere near the same [08:15] Ariadne but if you're not compiling packages all day, i'm sure it will be fine for you [08:15] schestowitz-TR unlike mac "mini", they have 4 screens, too [08:15] Ariadne for people who *are* compiling shit all day [08:15] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: can compile on computation server [08:15] schestowitz-TR some are made as servers [08:15] schestowitz-TR I don't want my desktops to be like servers [08:15] activelow i do compile all day, on a distcc cluster of cortex a53 [08:15] schestowitz-TR it slows them down [08:16] schestowitz-TR it also increases latency a lot [08:16] *Ariadne shrugs [08:16] schestowitz-TR when I re-encode videos I have to nice aggressively [08:16] schestowitz-TR renice also [08:16] Ariadne so, just because you offload tasks to other machines, you don't care how fast those tasks get completed? [08:16] Ariadne is that what you're saying here? [08:16] activelow Ariadne: me? [08:16] schestowitz-TR there are some server setups based on ARM cores with like 100 cores [08:17] Ariadne yes [08:17] schestowitz-TR and they're not very expensive [08:17] Ariadne and those cost [08:17] Ariadne hahahahaha [08:17] Ariadne what? [08:17] schestowitz-TR less than $1000 [08:17] activelow Ariadne: power consumption and costs is what i care about [08:17] Ariadne no [08:17] schestowitz-TR the ARM ones [08:17] Ariadne Altra, with 80 Neoverse N1 cores [08:17] schestowitz-TR psydruid might have a link handy [08:17] Ariadne is 7900 GBP [08:18] Ariadne unless you are talking about the thunderx2 stuff that hyperscalers are dumping on the secondary market [08:18] Ariadne in which case [08:18] schestowitz-TR whatever works [08:18] activelow with the distcc setup i got 16 threads in total, on four tiniest cortex-a53 SBC, with each requiring ~5Watts under full load [08:18] Ariadne trust me, you do not want those thunderx2 machines [08:18] Ariadne they have tons of errata [08:18] schestowitz-TR brb [08:18] schestowitz-TR gym [08:18] psydruid there aren't a lot of affordable options for higher-end ARM boards and systems, sadly [08:18] activelow distcc scalability is limited [08:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.33 swarm size (avg): 260.49 [08:19] activelow however, i've come to conclude, 16 threads at 1.2GHz is alot of processing power for compilation, and this simply must be enough [08:20] psydruid Mac Mini M1 is one of the more affordable ones and that is why a small part of the GNU/Linux developer community flocked to them [08:20] activelow otherwise i cut down elsewhere [08:20] psydruid hopefully more options will become available, either ARM or (better) RISC-V [08:20] activelow and that's one reason why, i've got so many things on my hitlist here, of great free and opensource software [08:21] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:21] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [08:21] Ariadne btw [08:21] Ariadne activelow, the mac mini m1 running as a headless server, uses ~5w [08:21] Ariadne for the entire thing [08:21] Ariadne so you get 8 threads at 3ghz [08:21] Ariadne in ~5w [08:22] activelow awesome, no need to argue [08:22] Ariadne seems to me like distccing that makes more sense [08:22] Ariadne if you can afford the $499 per node anyway [08:22] activelow 8threads at 3ghz are sufficient, no need for distcc then [08:23] Ariadne and i am 100% dead serious about M1 being RYF certifiable [08:25] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) [08:27] Ariadne (this is of course more a criticism of the usefulness of RYF than an assessment of the freedom of the M1 SoC) [08:30] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [08:33] Ariadne oh, i stand corrected, the M1 does have one blob that Linux has to deal with [08:33] Ariadne the broadcom wifi firmware [08:34] Ariadne which is the same old shit every linux has to deal with if they use broadcom wifi :p [08:36] psydruid I don't even use the Broadcom WiFi on my Powermac G5 and prefer to have it connected over Ethernet [08:36] Ariadne well if you dont care then :P [08:36] activelow i prefer no WiFi chip soldered anywhere [08:36] Ariadne linux-libre will work out of the box on M1 ^_^ [08:37] activelow doesn't mean various option roms were free just because linux kernel didn't load them [08:38] activelow anyway, i got no long term plans with neither x86 nor arm anymore [08:38] psydruid I don't even use it on my Orange Pi, but that's because the (crappy) Realtek hardware and the driver aren't ready to be used in any shape or form [08:39] activelow rockchip has the benefit of decent u-boot loader support, i wouldn't depend on this vendor either [08:39] activelow psydruid: if you check the documentation for memory maps, rockchip marks various memory address regions as "reserved"/undocumented, even when a fully opensource and free u-boot loader is deployed [08:39] *techrights_guest|84 (~c877bc95@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:40] techrights_guest|84 Cool article. So what is an alternative...? [08:40] activelow more than 100MiB of memory "reserved"/undocumented [08:41] activelow techrights_guest|84: a fully free and opensource SoC deployed onto FPGA is the alternative [08:41] *techrights_guest|84 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [08:41] activelow which may not necessarily support linux anymore either, and many FPGA boards (Xilinx/Altera and required tooling) are anything but free and open [08:43] activelow and then, if any individual peripheral chip is verified, often some USB controller or similar raise suspicion [08:44] activelow Adafruit/Atmega(AVR RISC) isn't free and opensource, and often deployed to attach flash storage, ftdi usb for jtag debugging or flashing, none of this is free and opensource [08:46] psydruid is there no alternative to FTDI? [08:46] activelow yes, no usb at all, or some usb-controller available on opencores.org, however, no ready-made SoC design exists [08:47] activelow needless to say, deployment onto FPGA is expensive, and i doubt affordable FPGA boards are available (checked already) [08:48] activelow add to this, FPGA boards have limited cells and GPIOs available, i would rather drop the idea of USB entirely, and resort to some FloppyDisk controller for storage, serial line for networking [08:49] activelow long story short, there is always something, some microchip, some firmware, some proprietary tooling [08:50] activelow not at least some serial to vt100 termination (geoff's vt100 or Z80 RC2014 vt100 terminal board) were fully free and open (PIC32, or STM32 with the ones i found) [08:52] psydruid I just see it as free hardware design being at the start of its life cycle, just as free software was 40 years ago [08:52] psydruid we will have to replace parts one by one until we end up with a fully free hardware design [08:53] psydruid there will be threats and lawsuits, but that's the price you pay for valuing freedom over convenience [08:54] activelow i think a clean VT100 was something to think about first, such as replaceing the microchip pic32 or stm32 in the vt100 terminal boards mentioned, with some free and open chip and free software [08:56] activelow VGA graphics out for vt100 termination is a problem, because it requires relatively fast RAM, and relatively high clock speeds, which rules out most FPGA already [08:57] activelow geoff's vt100 or Z80 RC 2014 vt100 terminal boards are a good start to think about what freedom respecting hardware and software are [08:57] psydruid is there any chance of seeing more powerful FPGAs coming out of Lattice Semiconductor? [08:58] activelow lattice offerings are decent, i got one on my list shipped in europe, with 512KiB SRAM available even, but it's clock speed is too slow for VGA output for vt100 termination [08:59] activelow some other VT100 termination project used 7400TTL chips, fully free and open schematics, but it's software was closed source ● Oct 15 [09:00] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:01] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:02] *schestowitz-TR back [09:03] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #FB House Democrats Decide To Hand #Facebook The Internet By Unconstitutionally Taking #Section230 Away From Algorithms https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/10420547749/house-democrats-decide-to-hand-facebook-internet-unconstitutionally-taking-section-230-away-algorithms.shtml [09:03] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/10420547749/house-democrats-decide-to-hand-facebook-internet-unconstitutionally-taking-section-230-away-algorithms.shtml [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-House Democrats Decide To Hand Facebook The Internet By Unconstitutionally Taking Section 230 Away From Algorithms | Techdirt [09:03] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 14, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/irc-log-141021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/irc-log-141021/ [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 14, 2021 | Techrights [09:05] schestowitz-TR [08:33] oh, i stand corrected, the M1 does have one blob that Linux has to deal with [09:05] schestowitz-TR :-) [09:08] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #hk University Of #HongKong Wants To Remove A Sculpture Commemorating #Tiananmen ; To Preserve It, People Have Crowdsourced A Digital 3D Replica https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/08063447745/university-hong-kong-wants-to-remove-sculpture-commemorating-tiananmen-to-preserve-it-people-have-crowdsourced-digital-3d.shtml [09:08] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211014/08063447745/university-hong-kong-wants-to-remove-sculpture-commemorating-tiananmen-to-preserve-it-people-have-crowdsourced-digital-3d.shtml [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-University Of Hong Kong Wants To Remove A Sculpture Commemorating Tiananmen; To Preserve It, People Have Crowdsourced A Digital 3D Replica | Techdirt [09:10] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.132.72) has joined #techrights [09:14] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Surveillance #Privacy Court Says #GoogleTranslate Isn't Reliable Enough To Determine Consent For A Search https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211009/18253847725/court-says-google-translate-isnt-reliable-enough-to-determine-consent-search.shtml [09:14] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211009/18253847725/court-says-google-translate-isnt-reliable-enough-to-determine-consent-search.shtml [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Says Google Translate Isn't Reliable Enough To Determine Consent For A Search | Techdirt [09:16] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #DRM 'Some Things Are Worth Fighting For': 10,000 Unionized #JohnDeere Workers Now on Strike https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/14/some-things-are-worth-fighting-10000-unionized-john-deere-workers-now-strike [09:16] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/14/some-things-are-worth-fighting-10000-unionized-john-deere-workers-now-strike [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Some Things Are Worth Fighting For': 10,000 Unionized John Deere Workers Now on Strike [09:16] techrights-news NEWS #Tor #torproject Tors Bug Smash Fund Year 3: $107K Raised! https://blog.torproject.org/tors-bug-smash-fund-107k-raised [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Tors Bug Smash Fund Year 3: $107K Raised! | Tor Blog [09:17] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons #CC The 2021 CC Global Summit Keynotes Are Here! https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/14/the-2021-cc-global-summit-keynotes-are-here/ also https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/14/reflections-from-the-2021-cc-global-summit/ [09:17] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/14/the-2021-cc-global-summit-keynotes-are-here/ [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | The 2021 CC Global Summit Keynotes Are Here! - Creative Commons [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Reflections from the 2021 CC Global Summit - Creative Commons [09:17] schestowitz-TR :( [09:17] schestowitz-TR clownflare [09:18] schestowitz-TR CC should know better :/ [09:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.46 swarm size (avg): 260.47 [09:19] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Missouri Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting Security Vulnerability https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/missouri-governor-vows-to-prosecute-st-louis-post-dispatch-for-reporting-security-vulnerability/ [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Missouri Governor Vows to Prosecute St. Louis Post-Dispatch for Reporting Security Vulnerability Krebs on Security [09:24] activelow italy fully enforces covid restrictions now: either vaccination, testing or medical approval of recovery are mandatory everywhere [09:25] activelow verified with a QR code on mobile phone, and culture and artists welcome this idea to continue their business [09:25] techrights-news #rms speaks tomorrow in #claret #france https://stallman.org/talks.html #freesw #fr [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman [09:25] activelow well, sure, political opposition from culture and arts... who welcome this [09:26] schestowitz-TR activelow: but they allow testing [09:26] activelow how liberal and anti-fascist they are, culture and arts [09:26] schestowitz-TR and that's not likely enforced to buy essentials such as food [09:26] schestowitz-TR testing is not bad [09:27] schestowitz-TR for flights I think they should also require testing from the vaccinated [09:27] activelow schestowitz-TR: i read some news report this morning already, in some federal state in germany (Hessen) it was legally compliant to deny entrance into supermarket [09:27] schestowitz-TR as testing is more important [09:27] activelow only vaccinated or tested, and a test costs ~25Euros [09:27] schestowitz-TR but anyway, this is mostly ot for this channel while people quote-mine is to distract from the technical writyings [09:28] activelow which isn't enforced yet, however, it is considered legally compliant [09:28] schestowitz-TR testing is likely OK [09:28] activelow and, mobile phone with QR code, as far as the technology of this is concerned [09:28] schestowitz-TR and if they don't mandate "phones" [09:28] activelow the testing is scam to begin with [09:28] schestowitz-TR better than none [09:28] schestowitz-TR at least you can roughly guess who has it [09:29] activelow if they measured fever at the entrance and insist on face mask, ok, maybe, if this qualified as testing [09:29] schestowitz-TR depends where [09:29] activelow spitting slime with a 50/50 chance of false positive/negative isn't any [09:29] schestowitz-TR don't do this for food shopping [09:29] schestowitz-TR mandating masks seems fair to me [09:29] schestowitz-TR masks don't pain people except few [09:30] schestowitz-TR and they can get exemptions, usually people with chronic respiratory problems [09:30] activelow masks at least do not infringe constitutional rights [09:30] schestowitz-TR activelow: you are 40 this year, you def. don't want to get infected with this [09:30] schestowitz-TR it might not kill you, but can turn you inside out [09:31] activelow it isn't clear yet if EU/Germany will escalate with this agenda; italy does escalate [09:32] schestowitz [09:31] activelow: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/12/uk-home-office-eu-mobile/ [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Ongoing Investigation: Does the UK Home Office Force EU Citizens to Carry Around Tracking Devices? [09:32] schestowitz [09:31] thios is more worrisome to me [09:32] schestowitz [09:31] the pressure on people to be de facto RDIFed by 'phone' ownership [09:32] schestowitz [09:32] and all this QR thing also compel them to carry them around all the time [09:32] schestowitz [09:32] this we must oppose [09:32] schestowitz [09:32] it's tyranny of unprecedented proportions, worse than Dehomag [09:33] schestowitz sorry, posted this to the wrong channel [09:38] schestowitz NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | There Can Be No Compromise on #VotingRights https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/14/there-can-be-no-compromise-voting-rights [09:38] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/14/there-can-be-no-compromise-voting-rights [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | There Can Be No Compromise on Voting Rights | Lee Harris [09:39] Ariadne i mean, laptops can read QR codes too [09:39] Ariadne just pull out a thinkpad and go with it [09:40] activelow i'll rather carry along a Z80 SBC instead, with AX.25 radio [09:40] schestowitz-TR gnome has an "app" for token [09:40] schestowitz-TR with flatpak [09:40] schestowitz-TR but still, that raises barriers [09:40] schestowitz-TR rather needlessly [09:43] activelow i departed from Telekom 2005 already, after they implemented "mobile number portability", which wasn't the only reason [09:43] schestowitz-TR what does that term mean? [09:44] activelow nonetheless, with MNP implement in mobile phone signalling, "routing on IMSI" was introduced [09:44] schestowitz-TR to some, at work, it may mean "boss must be able to reach me at all times" [09:44] schestowitz-TR IBM: "you are IBM employee 100% of the time" [09:44] activelow meaning, it isn't the phone-number anymore to route signallig, it is the IMSI since then [09:44] schestowitz-TR phone number is not the only fingerprint [09:45] activelow "mobile number portability" is a signaling protocol extension, to route signalling in circuit switched telco [09:45] schestowitz-TR a decade ago I came to the conclusion that anonymous mobile phone ownership is not possible [09:45] activelow and MNP changed the design fundementally, around year 2005, when *all* calls needed to be triggered into "intelligent network" to "route on IMSI" [09:45] schestowitz-TR so they have, in effect, had already become "Stalin's Dream" [09:47] schestowitz-TR activelow: what are the effects on battery life? [09:47] schestowitz-TR I don't know IMSI [09:47] activelow "international mobile subscriber identity" [09:47] activelow which isn't the phone number to dial (MSISDN) [09:48] schestowitz-TR obviouslyy a russian system :-) [09:48] schestowitz-TR like gps -) [09:49] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch "Smart Borders?" High-Tech Virtual Walls Are Even More Invasive Than Iron Walls https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/14/smart-borders-high-tech-virtual-walls-are-even-more-invasive-than-iron-walls/ [09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Smart Borders?" 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"defence budget" = corporate bailouts, or taxpayers being plundered by oligarchs to maintain and expand wealth and power in the name of "defence" through private contracts [09:57] activelow no, telco protocol signalling isn't some national standard, such as russian, it is international standard, ITU-T/ETSI/ANSI [09:57] schestowitz-TR I was joking ● Oct 15 [10:04] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation Womens March in Brooklyn 2021 https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/womens-march-in-brooklyn-2021/ [10:04] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/womens-march-in-brooklyn-2021/ [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Womens March in Brooklyn 2021 | The Nation [10:05] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Finance Leaked Email Shows #Verizon Pushing Employees to Oppose Corporate Tax Hike https://truthout.org/articles/leaked-email-shows-verizon-pushing-employees-to-oppose-corporate-tax-hike/ [10:05] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/leaked-email-shows-verizon-pushing-employees-to-oppose-corporate-tax-hike/ [10:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Leaked Email Shows Verizon Pushing Employees to Oppose Corporate Tax Hike [10:40] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:40] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:40] techrights-news #HowTo Upgrade to Ubuntu 21.10 From 21.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156801 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Upgrade to Ubuntu 21.10 From 21.04 | Tux Machines [10:40] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] techrights-news Security FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156802 #GNU #Linux [10:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security FUD | Tux Machines [10:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156803 #Linux #TuxMachines [10:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:44] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [10:44] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [10:45] techrights-news #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156804 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:45] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [10:45] techrights-news Excellent System Utilities: Pingnoo traceroute/ping analyser http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156805 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Excellent System Utilities: Pingnoo traceroute/ping analyser | Tux Machines [10:46] techrights-news Devices/Embedded With Android or Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156806 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded With Android or Linux | Tux Machines [10:46] techrights-news Canonical/Ubuntu: Hackathon, Mir, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156807 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu: Hackathon, Mir, and More | Tux Machines [10:47] techrights-news #ArchLinux vs Ubuntu: which to choose? 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[11:19] schestowitz-TR a: because of transport [11:19] schestowitz-TR person: why is transport more expensive? [11:19] schestowitz-TR a: oil [11:19] schestowitz-TR but a year ago prices of energy collapsed [11:19] schestowitz-TR due to lowered demand [11:19] schestowitz-TR so they need to make up their minds [11:20] schestowitz-TR does pandmic reduce or increase energy prices [11:20] activelow not at the scale announced, it is the taxation system surrounding "renewable" agenda which collapses [11:20] schestowitz-TR can't be both.. [11:21] activelow it is enterntaining, when "renewables" are announced as cheap energy supply. only problem: there is no supply with them, it is marginal, if at all. [11:21] schestowitz-TR "LOOK! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE PRICE OF ENERGY, DO NOT BUY IT!!" [11:21] activelow heating with wood pellets has become attractive, with specialized "solar" companies selling them [11:22] activelow here is the next best thing with the "renewable" agenda: with only 20% of wood harvested in germany alot of construction (buildings) could be supplied, but aren't because, lack of wood supply [11:23] activelow how "innovative" they are, with their "renewable" energy agenda [11:24] activelow next epic mistake of them was associating "eco tax" with pension fund, in germany, and if energy taxation system collapses then this poses another threat, not only energy supply, but pensions [11:24] *leah has quit (connection closed) [11:25] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [11:25] techrights-news #billBC (funded by #billgates for #propaganda purposes) doesn't get #poverty ... obsessing over the price of turkey and chocolates... if if everyone can afford these [11:25] schestowitz-TR activelow: what is better? [11:26] schestowitz-TR a lot of current pension funds are tied to fossil fuel "investments" [11:26] schestowitz-TR the whole thing is a scam [11:26] schestowitz-TR I mean many pensions] [11:26] schestowitz-TR speculative and akin to ponzo [11:26] schestowitz-TR *ponzi scheme [11:26] activelow well, fossil fuels aren't scam, nuclear power isn't either, the scam is the "renewable energy" [11:26] activelow because, there is none [11:26] schestowitz-TR maybe NFT... I hereby issue money to myself based on NFT [11:27] schestowitz-TR renewable is mostly a buzzword [11:27] schestowitz-TR like "sustinable" [11:27] schestowitz-TR [00:11] #microsoftTim is now #greenwashing #microsoft with misleading headline. Link omitted, but #linuxfoundation does the same: http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights [11:27] schestowitz-TR we need to reduce pollution [11:27] schestowitz-TR we need to thus use meaningful terms [11:28] schestowitz-TR notably [11:28] schestowitz-TR consumption [11:28] schestowitz-TR overpopulation [11:28] schestowitz-TR recycling [11:28] schestowitz-TR but the corporations do not want that [11:28] schestowitz-TR the rich drive sales [11:28] schestowitz-TR new "technologies" [11:28] schestowitz-TR more gadgets... "green" ones [11:28] schestowitz-TR it's fake [11:28] schestowitz-TR like a lot of fake activism [11:28] schestowitz-TR and fake security [11:29] schestowitz-TR the parallel 'movements' are corporate-led [11:31] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:33] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [11:36] techrights-news #CutefishOS Built on #Ubuntu Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x_5aWxlmImM #video #invidious [11:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | CutefishOS Built on Ubuntu Run Through - Invidious [11:38] techrights-news #KDE Plasma 5.23 Continues the Trend of Incremental Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156772#comment-31381 [11:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.23 Release Brings a Fresh Look with Performance Updates | Tux Machines [11:38] activelow next inteview: "we need eco taxation to subsidize wind turbines and solar panels because we need electricity for heating and mobility and everything", sure. only problem, there is no energy supply available with solar and wind. [11:39] schestowitz-TR solar-powered welding:D [11:39] activelow that's why they obfuscate and falsify all data, because the argument collapses, as soon as it is shown that wind turbines and solar do NOT supply, at whatever costs. energy which does not exist cannot be sold nor consumed nor taxed. [11:40] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #vista Service Pack '11' already in trouble - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/microsofts-first-windows-11-update-addresses-amd-cpu-scheduling-problems-ends-up-making-them-worse/ [11:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsofts first Windows 11 update addresses AMD CPU scheduling problems. Ends up making them worse. BaronHK's Rants [11:43] techrights-news #DuckDuckGo is #snakeOil https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/vivaldi-adblock-is-mostly-adblock-plus-and-ublock-origin/ or much worse: http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Vivaldi Adblock is mostly Adblock Plus and ublock-origin. BaronHK's Rants [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [11:46] techrights-news Corporate #greenwashing rapidly kills the debate about #climate and global warming. The solution isn't to make and sell more "green" things but to consume less, reuse more, reduce population sizes over decades. Corporations and oligarchs don't like that; it reduces their power over the population. [11:47] techrights-news The environment does not care about "the economy" but the ecology (the former is a man-made artificial construct) [11:47] schestowitz-TR activelow: ^ [11:48] activelow schestowitz-TR: noted [11:48] techrights-news [Meme] Linux Foundation is #Greenwashing #Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ #Techrights #Linux #greenwash | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights [11:48] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [11:48] activelow i'm not radical. i think "Vernunft" (reasonable behaviour) had sufficed. [11:49] techrights-news #ibm #redhat : yes, we lay off and lose lots of staff; maybe we just need to use more buzzwords and leverage #covid19 somehow... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/devsecops-lessons-pandemic [11:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | DevSecOps lessons learned during a pandemic | The Enterprisers Project [11:49] activelow maybe energy and resource consumption could be cut down by whatever 50% without any loss of comfort or productivity at all [11:49] schestowitz-TR productivity is relative [11:49] schestowitz-TR a lot of supposed "productivity" is mis-measured [11:49] schestowitz-TR are telemarketers "productivity"? [11:49] schestowitz-TR is marketing in general "productivity"? [11:50] schestowitz-TR Does it improve lives? [11:50] schestowitz-TR like 100,000 brochures in people's mail boxes? [11:50] activelow the "eco green" agenda aimed and productive and competitive business, the industry, science, engineering, which is ruinous [11:50] activelow aimed at [11:50] schestowitz-TR but waut [11:50] schestowitz-TR there are environmentalists [11:50] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.132.72) has joined #techrights [11:50] schestowitz-TR then there are fakes [11:50] schestowitz-TR as with many things in life [11:50] schestowitz-TR like fake activists [11:50] schestowitz-TR and fake 'charities' [11:51] schestowitz-TR don't conflate the two [11:51] schestowitz-TR many people of racial minorities prove their worth by excelling [11:51] schestowitz-TR and make a strong case for equality [11:51] schestowitz-TR not cancelling people for calling their project in git something -> master [11:52] activelow this is an interesting aspect too, language pecularities [11:52] techrights-news TIL Ray Kurzweil works for #Gulag https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/why-digital-transformation-demands-change-leadership-mindset [11:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Why digital transformation demands a change in leadership mindset | The Enterprisers Project [11:53] activelow because, german language has a different meaning for "master", as I said, a master is a craftsman status based on competence, who instructs trainees (not slaves) to become masters themselves, based on competence and skills; this is the one and only meaning of "master" in german language [11:54] schestowitz-TR on origin of the word: [11:54] schestowitz-TR (french iirc) [11:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/23/minds-of-profound-racists/ [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Word Master is Not Problematic in Most Contexts and Its Origin Hasnt a Connection to Slavery | Techrights [11:54] schestowitz I researched this for a bit [11:54] schestowitz conclusion was, [11:54] schestowitz original meaning has NOTHING to do with subjugation [11:55] schestowitz IBM et al might even be DELIBERATELY concern-trolling: http://techrights.org/2020/10/13/ibm-and-masters/ [11:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM: The Word Master is Rude (Except When We Use It Ourselves) | Techrights [11:55] activelow "slave" is derived from schlafen, to sleep... ironic isn't it? [11:55] schestowitz creating some parallel dimension of "ethics" [11:55] schestowitz because dropping their racist Pentagon contracts is not an option [11:56] schestowitz in English slave is a negative connotation [11:56] schestowitz I can understand that [11:56] schestowitz but they never stopped at "slave" [11:56] activelow to correct spelling is schlafen [11:56] schestowitz now the colour black is considered probematic [11:56] XRevan86 activelow: It would be if that were true. [11:56] schestowitz and at some stage you say, "ok, enough!" [11:57] schestowitz XRevan86: any connection to "slav"? [11:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes. [11:59] techrights-news "Judge just approved the settlement [SCOBK-1535]. Lots of rubber stamping still to go. Xinuos still wants it chance to beat a dead horse, so we'll have to see how that goes." #sco #ibm #linux https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/over [11:59] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: freeforums.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/over [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grokthelaw.freeforums.net | Is it - over? | GroktheLaw [11:59] schestowitz-TR IBM so IBM cares about Soviet area now? ● Oct 15 [12:00] schestowitz-TR fwiw, Thomas Watson Jr. collaborated with the Soviets [12:00] schestowitz-TR he was even ambassador there [12:02] techrights-news "The overall build is relatively simple. Audio is acquired via a line-in jack or a microphone, and then piped into an ESP32." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/art-project-fast-and-fouriously-transforms-audio-into-eye-candy/ [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Art Project Fast And Fouriously Transforms Audio Into Eye Candy | Hackaday [12:03] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavs_(ethnonym)#Etymology "The English term slave derives from the ethnonym Slav. In medieval wars many Slavs were captured and enslaved, which led to the word slav becoming synonym to "enslaved person". In addition, the English word Slav derives from the Middle English word sclave, which was borrowed from Medieval Latin sclavus or slavus, itself a borrowing and Byzantin [12:03] XRevan86 e Greek sklbos "slave," which was in turn apparently derived from a misunderstanding of the Slavic autonym (denoting a speaker of their own languages)." [12:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Slavs (ethnonym) - Wikipedia [12:03] techrights-news FPGA Boards Add VGA And HMDI Interfaces To The Original Game Boy | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/15/fpga-boards-add-vga-and-hmdi-interfaces-to-the-original-game-boy/ [12:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FPGA Boards Add VGA And HMDI Interfaces To The Original Game Boy | Hackaday [12:04] activelow in german language: sklave and schlaf is distinguished, it's a pronounciation pecularity again [12:04] *inky (~inky@46.162.224.18) has joined #techrights [12:04] activelow in any case, a masters subordinate isn't a "sklave" in german language, it is a trainee (Lehrling) [12:04] XRevan86 activelow: I'm curious what is the basis for your conclusions. [12:05] XRevan86 activelow: In the English language a master's subordinate is called an apprentice. [12:06] activelow XRevan86: one famous peom, among the most important pieces of literate, in german language is "Der Zauberlehrling", an apprentice, who practices dark magic, and loosing control over the spirits he called for [12:07] activelow and desperately calls for his master to return, to prevent disaster [12:07] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:07] techrights-news Someone should explain the 'new' #mozilla what "hack" means; but they've fired all their good coders (hackers), now it's like #politicalParty https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/hacked-unravelling-a-data-breach/ [12:07] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/hacked-unravelling-a-data-breach/ [12:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Hacked! Unravelling a data breach - The Mozilla Blog [12:07] activelow XRevan86: another one is: Dr. Faust , a science master who signs a pact with the devil [12:07] *psydruid on orja [12:09] techrights-news "At Mozilla, we work towards creating a safe and joyful Internet experience every day" Not really. #drm screws blind people, harms the Web, and confronts #firefox users, who are presumed criminals. Less posing, #mozilla ... go back to your roots. [12:09] psydruid https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/orja#Etymology [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | orja - Wiktionary [12:10] psydruid #mozilla, go and find your roots ... six feet under [12:11] techrights-news All the links here are #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware "apps"; I don't think #mozilla grasps or cares for freedom anymore. http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/10/13/ctcft-2021-10-18-agenda/ [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smallcultfollowing.com | Baby Steps [12:13] techrights-news Oh, crap. #firefox mobile has BEEN OUTSOURCED TO #MICROSOFT ! You need to sign up with #microsoft and use #ProprietarySoftware to participate ... #mozilla is dead to me. https://fnordig.de/2021/10/14/fenix-physical-device-testing [12:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fnordig.de | Fenix Physical Device Testing [12:14] techrights-news #mozilla : subsidiary of #google powered by #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly to produce #drm sandbox for both. #www is dead, even with #firefox [12:16] techrights-news If you value the open Web and #freesw you should regard today's #mozilla and #firefox mostly useless to you, at best a "lesser evil"... at best [12:21] techrights-news #Sideload is a misnomer. Stop using that term. You're demonising the act of people taking control of their own devices which they paid for it. https://www.maketecheasier.com/sideload-apps-android-tv/ [12:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Sideload Apps on Fire TV, Roku, Android TV, Google Chromecast - Make Tech Easier [12:27] techrights-news #OSI is corrupt, so it attracts some of the corrupt like #microsoft and its #linuxfoundation https://www.linux.com/audience/iso-establishes-sbom-standard-for-open-source-development-with-spdx/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ISO [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISO establishes SBOM standard for open source development with SPDX - Linux.com [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ISO - Techrights [12:30] gustaf I guess other forges are ok with "master" ? [12:31] techrights-news Misleading headline because for a very long time #Microsoft has been keely censoring for China's regime https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/linkedin_china_microsoft/ #linkedin #censorship also in http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ [12:31] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/linkedin_china_microsoft/ [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | LinkedIn is shutting down in China over increased censorship The Register [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights [12:31] schestowitz-TR gustaf: other forges do not work for ICE [12:33] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights [12:33] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:35] schestowitz psydruid: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110 [12:35] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110 [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [12:35] schestowitz notice the 'rebound' [12:35] schestowitz two points for two billion dollars in spam? [12:35] schestowitz the WOW! starts now... [12:35] psydruid total failure of a marketing campaign [12:36] techrights-news #Mozilla Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156812 #TuxMachines [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:36] psydruid I have also noticed they have been sending more shills to social media [12:36] techrights-news #GNOME 41 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma 5.23 Is Coming Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156813 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 41 Desktop Lands in openSUSE Tumbleweed, KDE Plasma 5.23 Is Coming Soon | Tux Machines [12:36] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156814 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:36] psydruid "new" ones because previous "nicks"had become tainted [12:37] gustaf all the more reson to change [12:37] schestowitz-TR psydruid: social control media is part of the budget [12:37] schestowitz-TR but bribing bloggers is old [12:37] gustaf I hear from geminispace that Gitlab don't work w/o jabbascript [12:37] schestowitz-TR yeah [12:37] schestowitz-TR or barely [12:38] schestowitz-TR evewn for reasonably simple functionality [12:38] schestowitz-TR not even use input or anything [12:40] techrights-news "The goal of this project is to provide a conservative CSS toolkit which allows you to build web interfaces which are compatible with marginalized browsers like Netsurf and Lynx." https://drewdevault.com/2021/10/15/Status-update-October-2021.html #visurf #drewdevault #www #freesw [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Status update, October 2021 [12:41] techrights-news "Rails programmers have almost always tried to figure out the golden approach to business logic in their applications. From getting better at object-oriented design, to service objects, all the way to entirely new ideas like Trailblazer or leaving Active Record altogether. Heres one more design approach thats clean yet railsy." https://nts.strzibny.name/business-logic-in-rails-with-contexts/ [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Organizing business logic in Rails with contexts [12:41] gustaf tbh it's weird that the gemini standards team isn't using Sr.ht [12:42] gustaf guess not everyone is a raving fan of Drew [12:42] schestowitz-TR gitlab was not always this bad [12:42] schestowitz-TR RMS too said it was getting worse over time [12:42] schestowitz-TR some years ago I could still access gitlab forgres [12:43] schestowitz-TR now they want some "Big Browser" [12:58] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:59] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Oct 15 [13:09] techrights-news "And it's still ugly as hell by default. How difficult is it for KDE devs to create a nice and polished default theme? They invest a lot in bug fixes, new features, new functions etc, but they forget about the interface theme...." https://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2021/10/congrats-kde.html [13:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com | Congrats KDE [13:13] activelow preceeding scheduled coalition talks in germany: "planned mega write-off for digitalization" [13:14] activelow this isn't fixated with a coalition contract yet, and it isn't clear either what the intents are [13:15] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 Available, News and Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31384 [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [13:16] techrights-news Client-side content scanning as an unworkable, insecure disaster for democracy The Register https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/clientside_side_scanning/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [13:16] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/clientside_side_scanning/ [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Client-side content scanning as an unworkable, insecure disaster for democracy The Register [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:16] activelow typically, balance sheet write-offs cut down the rated value of a company, and too lowers taxation, and potential credits granted by banks [13:17] activelow another plan is cutting down "renewable energy" subsidies, to lower electricity costs, which will be marginal given electricity reached ~30ct/kWh in germany, and subsidy-related tax is accounted for with ~3ct/kWh, which is marginal given the fact electricity costs almost doubled [13:18] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #vista Service Pack '11' (or #vista11 for short) is even worse than #vista10 (not that bribed-for media coverage is running dry) https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/windows_11_amd/ [13:18] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/windows_11_amd/ [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | This week's Windows 11 patch didn't fix AMD performance woes The Register [13:18] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.50 swarm size (avg): 260.44 [13:20] psydruid so non-subsidised electricity is paying for subsidised electricity for companies by 5 times [13:20] techrights-news Andy Grove spoke with sick pervert and #famousCriminal #billgates to prop up another #monopoly https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/xbox_sorry_amd/ [13:20] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/xbox_sorry_amd/ [13:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Xbox designer issues Twitter apology to AMD The Register [13:20] psydruid and even then they don't pay market rates [13:22] activelow problem is, the only credible data i had seen indicated "renewable energy" market share is marginal, effectively it is close to nothing. [13:22] techrights-news The "What If" Performance Cost To Kernel Page Table Isolation On AMD CPUs - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=if-amd-kpti&num=1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [13:22] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=if-amd-kpti&num=1 [13:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The "What If" Performance Cost To Kernel Page Table Isolation On AMD CPUs - Phoronix [13:23] activelow and the taxation is justified by "renewable energy", which is taxation of nothing, to backup pension funds (eco tax, german, 1998/1999) [13:24] activelow in parallel they plan to reform social security, replacing unemployment support with some type of generic "citizen basic income" [13:26] activelow given the quality of unemployment services, such as the german employment database spammed and flooded by data scrapers [13:26] activelow i doubt they will cut down there [13:26] techrights-news Moments ago, Sky Noise: 43,000 people who were positive for #covid19 were tested "negative" (PCR). The "whole system seems broken" and number #covid cases in the #uk higher than reported, same for deaths by the way: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/ [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official Figures [13:27] activelow besides i asked for legal support from them, in case some employers didn't behave, and to my surprise such wasn't ever considered by them [13:28] techrights-news Contracts with #borisnaro will soon make "PCR billionaires". Who foots the bill to subsidise these "success" stories? British taxpayers with national insurance fee hikes. [13:32] techrights-news They need to crack down on #Microsoft #Windows , instead; they use their #NSA #backdoors as a ruse to protect #bigbanks https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/ [13:32] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/ [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | White House ransomware summit calls for crypto crackdown The Register [13:33] activelow next plan, "real estate acquisition with cash forbidden"... i am surprised this has been possible, to acquire real estate with cash instead of a registered transaction [13:35] gustaf hehe [13:35] gustaf good money-laundering opportunity [13:35] activelow yes, germany is considered a money laundering heaven, to buy anythin with excess cash, unregistered [13:37] techrights-news #IBM has totally lost direction; this is how they think of Free software]... https://opensource.com/article/21/10/content-marketing-open-source-community #redhat [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reach your open source community with content marketing | Opensource.com [13:38] activelow another one "400.000 new flats", in urban centers, rather late after the migration influx in recent years [13:38] techrights-news Extreme Overclocker Takes #RaspberryPi to 3 GHz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156815 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Extreme Overclocker Takes Raspberry Pi to 3 GHz | Tux Machines [13:38] techrights-news #ProprietaryWeb and #Vista11 Performance Catastrophe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156816 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Web and Vista 11 Performance Catastrophe | Tux Machines [13:39] activelow side note: covid vaccination was supposed to be registered centrally, who had been vaccinated when; and this discrepancy was noted far more vaccine shots were distributed and administered than vaccinations reported [13:39] schestowitz-TR there are stockpiles of these [13:39] schestowitz-TR there is no shortage [13:40] schestowitz-TR US stockpiles like half a billion doses [13:40] schestowitz-TR in "world's lab" it's like 4 times more than there are citizens [13:40] schestowitz-TR so the big companies can sell more than there are people [13:40] schestowitz-TR but in rich countries [13:40] schestowitz-TR they don't care about poor countries [13:40] schestowitz-TR "devaluing" their patent pools [13:40] activelow i suspect this, immigrants required a vaccination status, and received it, but were not reported as vaccinated [13:40] schestowitz-TR it's absurd [13:41] schestowitz-TR but if you oppose this hoard, they might label you "anti-vaxxer" [13:42] techrights-news #Thingiverse Data Leaked - Check Your Passwords | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/thingiverse-data-leaked-check-your-passwords/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thingiverse Data Leaked Check Your Passwords | Hackaday [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:45] techrights-news 10 Things To Do After Installing #Ubuntu 21.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31385 [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [13:47] techrights-news #Microsoft has infiltrated think tanks about #ransomware , so now instead of tackling the #security breaches themselves (which can lead to sabotage or worse) they treat it like a financial transaction issue. http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights [13:47] techrights-news New #PureBoot Feature: Scanning Root for Tampering https://puri.sm/posts/new-pureboot-feature-scanning-root-for-tampering/ #purism #gnu #linux [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | New PureBoot Feature: Scanning Root for Tampering Purism [13:50] techrights-news Printed Piano Mechanism Sure Is Grand | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/printed-piano-mechanism-sure-is-grand/ #hackaday [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Printed Piano Mechanism Sure Is Grand | Hackaday [13:51] techrights-news We need to talk about digital ID: why the World Bank must recognize the harm in #Afghanistan and beyond - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/digital-id-world-bank/ #accessnow [13:51] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-id-world-bank/ [13:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | We need to talk about digital ID: why the World Bank must recognize the harm in Afghanistan and beyond - Access Now [13:52] techrights-news "HIBP's maintainer also claimed that some of the data included poorly encrypted passwords: one he highlighted was an unsalted SHA-1 hash which resolved to the password "test123"." https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/thingiverse_data_breach_228k_email_addresses/ [13:52] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/thingiverse_data_breach_228k_email_addresses/ [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Thingiverse suffers breach of 228,000 email addresses The Register [13:54] techrights-news #Kubernetes becoming increasingly just an #openwashing shim for #proprietarySoftware with back doors https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/anthos_adds_virtual_machine_support/ [13:54] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/anthos_adds_virtual_machine_support/ [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google adds virtual machine support to Anthos The Register [13:55] psydruid https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110 [13:55] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202110 [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats [13:55] techrights-news #dell is still beholden to #microsoft but it does not want to leave #gnu #linux 'money on the table' https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Dell-Inspiron-15-3501-supports-Linux.573012.0.html [13:55] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Dell-Inspiron-15-3501-supports-Linux.573012.0.html [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Dell Inspiron 15 3501 supports Linux - NotebookCheck.net Reviews [13:56] psydruid if this happened in slightly more than a decade, what will it be in the second decade? [13:56] schestowitz-TR Microsoft Fscks Linux [13:56] schestowitz-TR with NTFS [13:56] schestowitz-TR ask SJVN [13:56] psydruid just invent more categories where Vista has no role to play and see its market share go to zero [13:56] psydruid yes, that's why they are so madly in love with Linux [13:57] schestowitz-TR [07:13] [Notice] -altlink_6b2 to #techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/13/how_ntfs_finally_made_it/ [13:57] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Please read IRC | http://about-altlink.go.crimeflare.eu.org [13:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | How Windows NTFS finally made it into Linux The Register [13:57] schestowitz-TR rebrand Windows [13:57] psydruid and with the x86 desktop slowly evaporating they have nowhere to go [13:58] schestowitz-TR then claim to shareholders, this new thing ig GROWING [13:58] schestowitz-TR 40,000% growth in one year [13:59] schestowitz-TR https://lwn.net/Articles/871989/ [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rolling stable kernels [LWN.net] [13:59] psydruid this is like Enron 2.0 [13:59] schestowitz-TR Microsoft Levin [13:59] schestowitz-TR they already have the finger in this pie [13:59] schestowitz-TR in a position one level below greg KH [13:59] schestowitz-TR when they sent Torvalds to therapist with forced apololgy ● Oct 15 [14:00] schestowitz-TR Greg did not defend Torvalds [14:00] schestowitz-TR he's also responsible for putting this Microsoft in his deputy slot [14:00] schestowitz-TR so Linux is at risk now [14:00] psydruid Greg wants to be a Microsoftie [14:00] MinceR at least in spirit, gkh is already a microsoftie [14:00] schestowitz-TR he put a Microsofters as his deputy [14:00] psydruid Greg De Icaza [14:01] MinceR he's a staunch believer in "Throw It In The Kernel" [14:01] schestowitz-TR kdbus [14:01] activelow MinceR: any quote? [14:01] MinceR activelow: he pushed for kdbus and he let ksmbd (or whatever) in [14:02] activelow is it optional? if i can deactivate and remove it then it is less of an issue. so far kernel devs seemed to have been cautious with strong dependencies (except gcc as one major) [14:03] MinceR maybe for now [14:03] psydruid Microsux Linux [14:03] MinceR but why should users and admins be responsible for doing QA on the kernel they run? [14:04] MinceR they were also rather careless with the whole udev thing [14:04] activelow nonetheless, i have no explanation yet why a static kernel image with modules included for arm64 reached the size of 13MiB, and i have removed alot of stuff from kconfig, most device drivers, [14:07] psydruid I have no explanation for it either [14:08] psydruid I just know that back in 2009 I was almost able to build a kernel that was 1 MB for my Sparcstation 5 [14:08] activelow static kernel with modules included? [14:09] psydruid mostly static, yes [14:09] psydruid 2.6.xx [14:10] psydruid I think I didn't even have modules built [14:10] psydruid I think it ended up being 1.1 MB, which was too large [14:10] activelow good point, modules for what... [14:11] psydruid and then I realised that machine probably won't be able to run Linux after 2.6.10 [14:12] psydruid I knew it was constrained hardware already by then, but it was my first experience with the limitations of LInux itself [14:16] activelow i'll verify downgrading to 32bit soon (if possible), should make a comparison easier [14:16] activelow psydruid: by coincidence, are u64 long integer available with arm32? i know arm32 is limited to, well, 32bit address space, but i need u64 long integer. [14:17] psydruid activelow, I don't think so, but I haven't used arm32 that much [14:17] activelow i know, 32bit DEC VAX could process 128bit data types even, general purpose [14:19] psydruid from a few quick searches arm32 doesn't seem to have u64 long integer [14:19] schestowitz-TR just got major doc on epo [14:19] psydruid you are also constrained to 16 registers [14:20] *schestowitz-TR will publish asap [14:25] psydruid but how can OpenBSD then have a 64-bit time_t? [14:25] psydruid I should look into this in a few weeks [14:27] psydruid on 32-bit hardware, I mean [14:32] activelow an ALU with small registers can concatenate those, to process any general purpose integer operation (add, mul, div, shift, xor etc) [14:32] activelow Z80 already, was known to have 4bit ALU, and processed 8bit (or larger), with 16bit address bus, and 8bit data bus [14:33] activelow some recent gcc extension introduced support for 128bit general purpose processing, on 64bit intel/amd systems [14:40] activelow need to check, the east-german Z80 clone was known to have a bug, with the carry-flag, which must be set correctly when bigger data types are required [14:42] activelow i think, 128 data types didn't arrive (only some weird SIMD), because this was required for some crypto (fast and efficient), to xor-shift/rotate on 128bit, meaning de/ciphering operating bitwise, not character-wise/permutation [14:44] techrights-news With EPO #StrikeRegulations Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, #EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside 'Temps' or Casual Workers http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/ [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With EPO Strike Regulations Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside Temps or Casual Workers | Techrights [14:45] schestowitz-TR ^^ [14:45] schestowitz-TR deutschland [14:45] schestowitz-TR anti-workers [14:47] activelow schestowitz-TR: i do not know strike-regulation and laws in detail, i do know however an employer can sue those who strike, and a court can rule a strike being ilegitimate [14:47] activelow in germany [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Oct 15 [15:06] techrights-news #PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156817 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC | Tux Machines [15:13] psydruid Pinephone Pro, that is starting to look better [15:13] *leah has quit (connection closed) [15:13] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [15:17] gustaf same in Sweden [15:17] gustaf "wild strike" [15:17] gustaf the union should let people know a strike is coming [15:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 35.06 swarm size (avg): 260.42 [15:24] psydruid https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-binge-cheap-food-is-over-biggest-chicken-producer-says-2021-10-14/ [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Britain's chicken king says the 20-year binge on cheap food is over | Reuters [15:27] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:27] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [15:31] psydruid moar automation [15:35] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [15:45] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@c9nu4ummhfn7e.irc) has joined #techrights [15:49] psydruid but a steep price for the Pinephone Pro [15:49] psydruid it's moving in the direction of Macbook Pro [15:50] *inky (~inky@178.78.136.212) has joined #techrights [15:56] activelow including tax and shipping ~500Euros? [15:57] activelow not specific to pinephone, i refrain from any such device [15:58] activelow and the development model behind, isn't particularly practical for me [15:58] activelow for example, armbian maintains dozens of patches, and these didn't reach mainline ● Oct 15 [16:00] activelow so, when thinking to git clone any kernel/uboot with rockchip/pinephone support present, chances are something is missing [16:01] activelow no thanks. and it's not as if rockchip didn't sell millions of devices, based on their platform (tv boxes, SBC) [16:01] activelow in the end, download an android image? no thanks. it's not the same as an Apple Mac product, or a windows laptop, however, no thanks. [16:06] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [16:19] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:27] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] *blitzed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:43] *blitzed (~blitzed@hfc9k7cgzrimg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:46] techrights-news #nhs under #borisnaro in 2021: you phone them on a Friday for urgent appointment. They tell you to phone again on Monday; nothing done, nothing booked. #tories squash our health services while charging us more. Death cult. Remember our head of state said "let the bodies pile up high" (and he is still in power). [16:49] techrights-news The wealthy and the greedy keep getting wealthier and greedier (and they use this money to effectively buy our political system) https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-binge-cheap-food-is-over-biggest-chicken-producer-says-2021-10-14/ [16:50] schestowitz-TR psydruid: interesting [16:50] schestowitz-TR billBC reported something similar [16:50] schestowitz-TR if people here shop smarter, they can get heavily discounted food [16:50] schestowitz-TR provided not everyone is doing it [16:51] schestowitz-TR it's a zero-game with almost-expired items [16:51] schestowitz-TR rianne just hunted down very heavily discounted stuff, some 90% off, most 3/4 off [16:53] activelow next interview: "50% electricity is renewable... need more investments"; lies lies lies [16:54] activelow "electricity subsidies fund renewable energy installations", lie. [16:55] activelow renewable market share is practically this: nothing, the installations do not supply energy, and subsidies and taxes for energy since year 2000 summed up to ~1.5bill (us trillion) in germany [16:56] schestowitz-TR "renewable" [16:56] schestowitz-TR let's make energy out of thin air [16:56] schestowitz-TR like we do with money [16:57] schestowitz-TR the public pays, e.g. through inflation [16:57] activelow "social ecological" [16:57] schestowitz-TR then we give fake (non)'Nobel' prizes to banksters [16:57] schestowitz-TR who pretend increase in minimum wage is like a gift from them [16:58] schestowitz-TR when in fact salaries aren't increasing but decreasing, compared to inflation rates [16:58] activelow social democrats demand 12Euros minimum wage now (~15USD) [16:58] gustaf activelow: https://lobste.rs/s/wbuvji/100_mhz_6502#c_gmezde [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | The 100 MHz 6502 | Lobsters ● Oct 15 [17:05] *CrystalMath (~coderain@evm3axadevwze.irc) has joined #techrights [17:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@d72tkjmtrgq7i.irc) has joined #techrights [17:14] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:17] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@c6fh9ws7dky62.irc) has joined #techrights [17:18] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I've even seen "Bill Gates wants to pull CO2 out of the air to make gasoline!". [17:18] schestowitz-TR gn [17:18] DaemonFC If it was cheap or easy to do that, they'd just do that instead of all of this electric car stuff. [17:18] schestowitz-TR does bill do cow farts? [17:18] DaemonFC There's a lot of "legacy" vehicles on the road that only run on gasoline. [17:18] schestowitz-TR buy new ones! [17:18] schestowitz-TR more manufacturing! [17:18] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.75 swarm size (avg): 260.40 [17:19] DaemonFC With what money? [17:19] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you know what bill might say [17:19] DaemonFC I assume Uncle Bill has a plan to pay workers to buy these things. [17:19] schestowitz-TR once then turn 10 they're of no use anymorew [17:19] DaemonFC Mine's nearly 20 years old. [17:20] schestowitz-TR you missed the joke [17:20] DaemonFC Even with repair bills, it's cheaper than buying something new. [17:20] DaemonFC No, I didn't. [17:20] schestowitz-TR maybe if bill's parents were still alive, he'd move to arizona [17:20] schestowitz-TR and say he needs to look after them [17:21] schestowitz-TR his dad has been dead for about a year [17:21] DaemonFC I call him Uncle Bill as in "your creepy uncle", you know, because the media puff pieces try to turn him into a kind man with a reading list. [17:21] DaemonFC He wears turtle neck sweaters and glasses, so can't be that bad. [17:21] schestowitz-TR has naked pool parties at homer [17:21] schestowitz-TR *home [17:21] schestowitz-TR while calling unmasked people "nudists" [17:21] schestowitz-TR I'm sure he wears a mask in his mansion [17:22] schestowitz-TR with all those butlers [17:22] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Did you see my article on Vivaldi trying to pass off their Adblock code as their own and potentially being a GPL violation, and taking source code from both of the major ad blockers for whatever reason? [17:22] schestowitz reference: http://techrights.org/2021/05/11/bill-gates-exposed-2021/ [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Exposed | Techrights [17:23] DaemonFC They know most people who read their blog will never go look at their code. [17:23] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I put that in tuxmachines [17:23] schestowitz-TR soon techrights [17:23] DaemonFC The code dumps are legally required, but most of it isn't Vivaldi's code. [17:23] schestowitz-TR yes, I confronted them about it [17:23] schestowitz-TR years ago [17:23] schestowitz-TR when they were still openwashing it [17:23] schestowitz-TR and I said, NO! it's PROPRIETARY [17:24] schestowitz-TR then they gave up pretending [17:24] DaemonFC I'm going to look at Vivaldi 4.3's code tree and see if they've actually released their email client or not. [17:24] schestowitz-TR great idea [17:24] schestowitz-TR write notes [17:24] schestowitz-TR take screenshots [17:24] schestowitz-TR it's a subject the media never covered afaik [17:29] DaemonFC Exposing their ad blocker was easier. [17:29] DaemonFC Someone uploaded the dumped source tarball into GitHub and I only had to figure out the tree structure. [17:29] DaemonFC But it wasn't their code and frankly it looked like they could have done a cleaner job. [17:29] techrights-news [Meme] #GitHub Isn't Free Hosting, It's All About Control by #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/github-control-by-microsoft/ #deletegithub #proprietarySoftware [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] GitHub Isnt Free Hosting, Its All About Control by Microsoft | Techrights [17:30] DaemonFC Also, since both are under the GPLv3 and they are "conveying" it as a complete work, I believe they are violating that license. [17:30] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: lol, blobs in proprietary microsoft [17:30] schestowitz-TR vivaldi just wants to say, look, we have repo [17:30] schestowitz-TR something "open" [17:30] schestowitz-TR github itself is proprietary [17:30] DaemonFC There's never been any sort of linking exception in either of the extensions because they were intended to be installed into a browser by the user. [17:30] schestowitz-TR controlled by a GPL violation giant [17:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Should I tap Raymond Hill and Wladimir Palant and see if they want to have a look? [17:32] DaemonFC I might post on Reddit asking for clarification by the ubo developers. [17:33] schestowitz-TR Palant = Moz [17:36] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/q8s73p/vivaldi_adblock_a_gplv3_violation_of_ublockorigin/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Vivaldi Adblock a GPLv3 violation of ublock-origin? : uBlockOrigin [17:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It would be hilarious if someone enforces their copyright against Vivaldi and either sues them or invokes the DMCA. [17:38] DaemonFC Or whatever the equivalent of that is in the EU. [17:39] DaemonFC The GPLv3 doesn't say you can "convey" something like this. The only way to make it legal would be to make all of Vivaldi GPLv3 or at least the reast of the source something compatible. [17:39] DaemonFC *rest [17:39] DaemonFC Since they don't even own the copyright on most of it, that would be a problem. [17:40] DaemonFC Does the LGPLv2.1 part of Webcore (from KHTML) have the + option that lets you distribute it under the full GPLv2 or later? [17:41] DaemonFC If not and you're linking into the browser's rendering engine that's a problem. [17:42] DaemonFC If authors would release their code under the default license from the FSF instead of stripping the "+" language out of it, then distributing older code under LGPLv2 wouldn't be an issue. You just clarify you're asserting your right to "upgrade" to the full GPL 2 (or later) and as part of your conveyed work, it's either GPLv2 or 3. [17:43] DaemonFC Or to the LGPLv3, which is also compatible with the GPLv3. [17:43] DaemonFC LGPLv2 ONLY is never compatible with LGPLv3, Apache 2, or GPLv3. And it never can be. [17:44] DaemonFC So what these authors did with their anti-GNU paranoia (which Jamie Zawinski encouraged them to do a long time ago by saying never trust Richard Stallman) is make a large swath of Free Software unwieldy at best and unusable at worst. [17:44] DaemonFC If you want to pair it with something under a later version. [17:45] DaemonFC You end up with an incompatible mismatch and have to resort to torturing the definition of "convey" and "linked" like proprietary software developers. [17:47] schestowitz-TR check who their legal staff are [17:47] schestowitz-TR and maybe contact them [17:48] schestowitz-TR then check if what they tell you is true [17:48] schestowitz-TR if not, we have a problem [17:48] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, They quietly changed my post on Reddit. [17:48] schestowitz-TR Manjaro spins think Vivaldi is OK [17:48] DaemonFC Now it says only me and the mods of /r/uBlockOrigin can see it. [17:48] schestowitz-TR I think it's silly [17:48] schestowitz-TR Firefox sucks [17:48] schestowitz-TR but Vivaldi is likely worse [17:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: reddit is a censorship machine [17:49] schestowitz-TR it's what it does [17:49] schestowitz-TR you are not a reddit client [17:49] schestowitz-TR you don't get to decide what shows up [17:49] schestowitz-TR curation as a business model [17:50] activelow side-note: gentoo defines LICENSE="Vivaldi", not GPL, and requires explicite activation since this license isn't considered @FREE [17:52] activelow if this isn't related to the adblock addon only, vivaldi itself isn't free [17:52] schestowitz-TR systemVivalD [17:52] schestowitz-TR "we follow "open source" principles..." [17:52] schestowitz-TR "there's some code" [17:52] schestowitz-TR "all the coder are from the same cabal" [17:53] schestowitz-TR "but there's some source code loser can play with" [17:53] schestowitz-TR and then open "Issues" in proprietaryshithub [17:53] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:53] schestowitz-TR "we might even fix some' [17:54] techrights-news #Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename is a Jolly Good Choice http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156818 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename is a Jolly Good Choice | Tux Machines [17:54] activelow a proprietary software system is compliant with law, labeling proprietary software as "free" is fraud, fraud is illegal, subject to penal code even [17:55] schestowitz-TR penal code is for poor people [17:55] schestowitz-TR rich people need to do something exceptionally bad [17:55] schestowitz-TR like raping 10 women [17:55] schestowitz-TR if it's a setting present, that too can be brushed aside [17:56] schestowitz-TR because "ELECTION FRAUD" and "DEEP STATE" [17:58] techrights-news Must Read: $399 PinePhone Pro Announced with More Power, 4GB RAM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154536#comment-31386 [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PineNote is a $399 E-ink Tablet that Runs Linux | Tux Machines [17:59] techrights-news Effective Tips To Improve Linux Environment http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156819 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Effective Tips To Improve Linux Environment | Tux Machines [17:59] techrights-news #Kdenlive on TV for a main national Italian broadcaster http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156820 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kdenlive on TV for a main national Italian broadcaster | Tux Machines ● Oct 15 [18:00] *chunky has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:00] *chunky (~chunky@kcmuc6rr58tti.irc) has joined #techrights [18:01] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [18:02] techrights-news Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Released with Flavors Download Links, Mirrors and Torrents http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31387 [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [18:04] techrights-news #LibreOffice 7.2.2 for #Slackware-current is available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156821 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.2.2 for Slackware-current is available | Tux Machines [18:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/somethings-rotten-in-the-state-of-denmark-or-rather-norway-my-post-about-whether-vivaldi-is-a-gpl-violation-was-quietly-knifed-by-the-mods-of-r-ublockorigin-bonus-dont-strip-the-gpl-of-or/ [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Somethings rotten in the state of Denmark (or rather, Norway). My post about whether Vivaldi is a GPL violation was quietly knifed by the mods of /r/uBlockOrigin. Bonus: Dont strip the GPL of or any later version. BaronHK's Rants [18:13] schestowitz-TR interesting [18:14] schestowitz-TR I will read it all later [18:14] schestowitz-TR very long headline [18:15] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156822 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:16] DaemonFC It's a long headline. [18:16] DaemonFC I liked the "something rotten" part. [18:17] DaemonFC Because Denmark is relatively close to Norway, where the GPL violations are going on. [18:18] schestowitz-TR "it's not illegal if you don't get caught.." [18:18] DaemonFC Well, it's pretty stupid to do it in a way where you most certainly will get caught. [18:19] schestowitz-TR we'll do a series on copolit, the gpl violations factory [18:19] DaemonFC And then toss the evidence into a tarball on your own website. [18:22] techrights-news 3 ways to manage RPG character sheets with open source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156824 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3 ways to manage RPG character sheets with open source | Tux Machines [18:26] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/q8hsif/debian_and_lenovo_preinstalls/ [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Debian and lenovo preinstalls? : debian [18:27] DaemonFC BaronHK [18:27] DaemonFC [18:27] DaemonFC just now [18:27] DaemonFC It should be a Debian pre-install over anything from Rat Crap, but at least if it's not Windows, it'll probably be easier to switch it over to Debian without Windows kicking and screaming on the way out as you switch over the settings Windows uses (Fast Boot) to hide its horrendously slow bootup time, which confuses the Intel WiFI chipset when you boot up into Debian, as well as turning off VMD and Secure Boot, which trips up Bitlocker fake [18:27] DaemonFC security on the way out and makes you select something like "restore Bitlocker some other way", holding in the power key, and then pressing in the NOVO button with the end of a floss pick. [18:27] *leah has quit (connection closed) [18:27] DaemonFC Windows _really_ doesn't want to go, and Lenovo helps them with all of these ridiculous uEFI settings. It's hilarious how it can't keep itself running until you want it to leave. [18:27] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [18:28] DaemonFC Then it becomes the vampire squid that just won't let go of your laptop. [18:29] techrights-news 4 more articles and a video about #PinePhone Pro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156817#comment-31391 #gnu #linux [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Pro Linux Smartphone Unveiled with 4GB RAM, Custom Rockchip SoC | Tux Machines [18:30] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/comments/q8nn4r/got_another_copyright_notice_from_my_isp/ [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Got another copyright notice from my ISP. : nordvpn [18:30] DaemonFC BaronHK [18:30] DaemonFC [18:30] DaemonFC just now [18:30] DaemonFC To be fair, their Windows software is hell on Earth. Half of that is because it's spammy, and the other half is because Windows networking sucks. [18:30] DaemonFC It's a lot easier to misconfigure Windows and end up with a VPN leak than it is when you're using their GNU/Linux client. [18:34] DaemonFC BaronHK [18:34] DaemonFC [18:34] DaemonFC just now [18:34] DaemonFC Before I got rid of Windows entirely, I was looking at the Split Tunneling "feature" and said "Oh sure, I'll bet that works great on the Windows network stack.". [18:34] DaemonFC If anyone hasn't read the Wireguard mailing lists about Jason Donenfield reverse engineering Windows networking, it's worth it, even if you have no idea how to read code, because it's immediately clear that it's horribly broken, Microsoft has no idea how to solve a problem, and then they patent some kind of mess that doesn't even work reliably and leaves things like the Windows Firewall susceptible to downgrade attacks. [18:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [18:36] DaemonFC That's what Microsoft is at the end of the day, an unscrupulous law firm with really bad software. [18:37] schestowitz-TR you are not the firstto say this [18:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It's clear that Mozilla has become malware, and is flying apart at the seams. [18:37] schestowitz-TR re msft [18:38] schestowitz-TR moz is agroup of loser now [18:38] DaemonFC Debian 11 will end up with Firefox ESR 91 at some point, which doesn't have the "Suggest" keyloagger, and it'll probably be safe from that for a couple of years as such. [18:38] schestowitz-TR the management [18:38] DaemonFC But long term, Firefox is dead. [18:38] schestowitz-TR lf same [18:38] schestowitz-TR thyet lost the community [18:38] schestowitz-TR and geeksflee [18:38] DaemonFC *keylogger [18:39] schestowitz-TR 2014 ffhad msft keylogger [18:39] schestowitz-TR i was the only person to bemoan it [18:39] DaemonFC Windows is such a pile of shit that Mozilla Updater is effectively a RAT that they installed years ago. [18:39] schestowitz-TR typing one-ganded [18:39] schestowitz-TR handed [18:39] schestowitz-TR coffee break [18:39] schestowitz-TR had headache [18:40] schestowitz-TR maybe lack of sleep [18:40] schestowitz-TR too much work [18:40] schestowitz-TR will do daily links next [18:41] DaemonFC I edited that article about Vivaldi and Reddit. [18:41] DaemonFC I added: "It's really hard to write an ad blocker that works right, much less an entire web browser. Vivaldi admits that their browser engine is Chromium, but they've effectively plagiarized the ad blocker as their own by stamping a "Vivaldi Adblock" brand on it." [18:43] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I don't understand this. [18:43] DaemonFC Reddit says my post can only be seen by me and the mods. [18:43] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:43] DaemonFC But it also says 471 views and 10 likes. [18:43] schestowitz-TR shadowban [18:43] DaemonFC So.....hmmm [18:43] DaemonFC What gives? [18:43] DaemonFC There's obviously not ~500 mods there. [18:44] schestowitz-TR reddit [18:44] schestowitz-TR waste of time [18:45] DaemonFC Pretty much. [18:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I've been getting some hits from the Linux Mint forum about Firefox being malware with a keylogger. [18:45] DaemonFC Most of the chatter on the forum posts have been "I'm not in the US, so doesn't affect me." yet. [18:45] DaemonFC Yet. [18:46] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: censorship is hot [18:46] schestowitz-TR people moan to me about you [18:46] schestowitz-TR even this morning [18:46] schestowitz-TR you know who I mean [18:46] DaemonFC What do they say? [18:46] DaemonFC Oh, Garrett? [18:46] schestowitz-TR we live in a thin-skinned society now [18:46] schestowitz-TR comedians cannot make any joke [18:46] schestowitz-TR it's sexist or racist [18:47] schestowitz-TR or talking about biology [18:47] schestowitz-TR that hurts some people's feelings [18:47] schestowitz-TR even if the comedian is black [18:47] schestowitz-TR doesn't matter [18:47] schestowitz-TR be Greg KH [18:47] schestowitz-TR say nothing [18:47] schestowitz-TR only, yes sir [18:47] schestowitz-TR take down the pants [18:47] schestowitz-TR and say, "yes, Microsoft, that was good!" [18:47] schestowitz-TR That's a good boy [18:47] DaemonFC https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=359227&p=2081259 [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.linuxmint.com | Firefox: Disturbing News - Linux Mint Forums [18:48] schestowitz-TR btw, iirc, Grfeg is in the CoC committee [18:48] schestowitz-TR along with the likes of Intel [18:48] DaemonFC Oh, Chris Rock is one of my favorites. [18:48] DaemonFC He's great. He's black too, you know. [18:48] AdmFubar https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/privacy/361191/is-australia-becoming-a-surveillance-state [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Is Australia becoming a surveillance state? | IT PRO [18:48] schestowitz-TR yes, he's funny [18:48] DaemonFC My favorite is how not to act when you get pulled over by the cops. [18:48] schestowitz-TR he voice adds to it [18:48] schestowitz-TR *his [18:49] DaemonFC Here in Waukegan we had MOAR RIOTS because the cops shot some black guy. You know, just totally minding his own business, with the car in reverse trying to sandwich the cop that shot him between his rear bumper and the front of the squad car. [18:49] DaemonFC Dindu Nuffin! [18:49] DaemonFC He was a good boy! [18:49] schestowitz-TR cops are low level [18:49] schestowitz-TR low level troopers for the rich [18:50] schestowitz-TR they're typically also quite racist [18:50] DaemonFC Have you tried NOT running them over? [18:50] *DaemonFC sips his coffee [18:50] schestowitz-TR because they have to compete for scraps at the bottom [18:50] schestowitz-TR the people they fight with are also poor [18:50] schestowitz-TR it's not a pretty picture [18:50] DaemonFC Pretty much, I mean just take the fucking ticket though. [18:50] schestowitz-TR meanwhile the rich amass all the ac apital [18:50] schestowitz-TR and live in gated communities with no shootings [18:50] DaemonFC The Chris Rock video showed some black guy mouthing off to the cops and then going down on the pavement with a gun at the back of his head. Caption: "NOT A TICKET!" [18:51] DaemonFC :) [18:51] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [18:51] schestowitz-TR anyway, subject change [18:51] schestowitz-TR I'm doing daily links [18:51] schestowitz-TR stick to tech [18:51] schestowitz-TR you're upsetting some people [18:51] schestowitz-TR and it's not necessary [18:51] schestowitz-TR sometimes you upset me too [18:52] schestowitz-TR but I am thick-skinned compared to many [18:52] DaemonFC My point is sure they're awful, but take the goddamned ticket and tell them have a nice day. They know what you mean by that. They leave, you go to court and fight it. [18:52] DaemonFC At least you're alive. [18:52] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/memes-of-the-week-8-27-21-10.jpg [18:52] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/memes-of-the-week-8-27-21-10.jpg [18:53] DaemonFC Have a nice day! After they write you a ticket means "Go die in a fire!" without having to antagonize them outright. [18:54] DaemonFC They're worse than the "street gangs" sometimes. They're heavily armed (with military surplus), they do whatever they want, and they rarely get charged with a crime unless someone manages to film them without getting shot or beaten up and having their phone confiscated and destroyed for doing that. [18:54] DaemonFC We all know that. [18:55] schestowitz-TR back on topic now [18:55] schestowitz-TR I could tell you stories but it would be off-topic [18:56] schestowitz-TR short version: I once argued viciously with cops over the phone and a nearby security guard signalled to me, stop,stop... because he knows you're never supposed to confront them [18:56] schestowitz-TR he said they can accuse me of libel or somethinga [18:56] schestowitz-TR and cops would be presumed to be telling the truth [18:56] schestowitz-TR anyway, back to tech [18:56] schestowitz-TR some pinephone news today [18:56] schestowitz-TR new codename for ubuntu [18:56] schestowitz-TR I am uploadfing a video over an hour long ● Oct 15 [19:07] DaemonFC BaronHK [19:07] DaemonFC OP [19:07] DaemonFC [19:07] DaemonFC just now [19:07] DaemonFC Well, the question has come up before in the context of the Linux kernel. [19:07] DaemonFC Their position is that the kernel exports "symbols" to drivers that are flagged "GPL-only" and ones that anyone can use. The programmers and lawyers decide which parts they feel are something that is "internal" and should be off limits to anything not under a compatible license. [19:07] DaemonFC Unless Vivaldi has changed something dramatically in how the ublock-origin or Adblock Plus code works, I believe it should be using WebRequest API. [19:08] DaemonFC Google's Manifest v3 didn't go over so well because it wanted to set WebRequest API such that extensions can't modify network requests and have to use a "DeclarativeNetRequest" API that has essentially been neutered to set an upper limit on the rules. [19:08] DaemonFC However, since these extensions can use tons and tons of rules, and Vivaldi Adblock reports success loading well over 150,000 rules, I think it's probably still WebRequest. [19:08] DaemonFC Vivaldi said they were not happy with Google's Manifest v3 and were moving ad blocking to an internal feature to safeguard against that. Obviously, if they don't like the limitations on WebRequest, if Google decides to go through with them, Vivaldi can patch them back out and fork ad blocking to keep letting the user load as many rule sets as they like. [19:08] DaemonFC Of course, there are other concerns, like Vivaldi doesn't have a large base of users, and at this point it would basically be them and possibly Firefox not going along with the neutered WebRequest, and are people going to maintain lists for browsers that don't neuter the API? [19:08] DaemonFC Anyway, my point, I suppose, is if Vivaldi is distributing them as if it were two different programs and if they are just using WebRequest, that _might_ be okay as long as they release their modifications to the ad blocker code under the GPLv3. [19:08] DaemonFC However, if they move it, (or already have moved it) to use a special internal API (like Brave-Adblock does, which is okay because Brave wrote their own and licensed it under MPLv2) in the browser that is not generally available to other extensions (because it performs better or something), that's really where *I* would think they'd be in non-compliance. [19:08] DaemonFC But I'm not a lawyer. [19:08] DaemonFC I'm just comparing this to the "Linux" model of "If it's available to everyone, go for it.". [19:09] MinceR lol @ not a ticket [19:10] techrights-news Links 15/10/2021: #Pine64 New PinePhone Pro and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/ubuntu-22-04-lts-codename/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/ubuntu-22-04-lts-codename/ [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 15/10/2021: Pine64s New PinePhone Pro and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Codename | Techrights [19:10] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156825 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:11] techrights-news This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [19:11] schestowitz #IBM /#RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156826 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:11] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156827 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:11] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156828 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:12] DaemonFC Sniffing their description of "Vivaldi Adblock", however, it seems they imply their built-in functionality performs better than an extension. If it uses WebRequest, then how does it perform better? [19:12] DaemonFC See: https://vivaldi.com/features/ad-blocker/ [19:12] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: vivaldi.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vivaldi.com/features/ad-blocker/ [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vivaldi.com | Ad Blocker fast and free, no extensions needed [19:12] DaemonFC I added that just now. [19:15] DaemonFC Also: "Note: They also border on slandering uBlock-Origin just because it's an extension that they don't bundle. Lots of extensions are shady, even if they end up in Google's store, but Raymond Hill seems trustworthy and if you make sure to only install open source extensions, you're probably okay. [19:15] DaemonFC " [19:16] techrights-news #Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156829 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [19:16] DaemonFC "In fact, one of the biggest downsides to Chromium browsers getting extensions from Google's store vs. Firefox add-ons, is that Firefox lists what license you're agreeing to, and Google doesn't." [19:17] DaemonFC "Oh, you paid us five bucks? Yeah, sure do whatever! Toss your Chinese malware in there!" -Google [19:21] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/08/27/brand-new-sentence-08-27-21/ [19:21] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/08/27/brand-new-sentence-08-27-21/ [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | Funny Sentences That Have Never Been Said In Human History [19:23] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/more-discussion-of-vivaldi-adblock-from-my-reddit-account-bonus-browser-extension-store-policies/ [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | More discussion of Vivaldi Adblock from my Reddit account. Bonus: Browser extension store policies. BaronHK's Rants [19:25] DaemonFC schestowitz, I've gone to the people who own the copyrights to the XFS file system. They didn't do anything about a violation I brought them years back. [19:25] DaemonFC It was when SGI still existed. [19:26] DaemonFC Some Windows developer lifted a snapshot of the code out of a Linux kernel and made a Windows Installable File System out of it, and then didn't release all of the source code used, which is impossible because you need the IFS porting kit from Microsoft, and you don't own that, and it isn't open source. [19:27] DaemonFC I sent it to SGI's legal department and they never acted on it. [19:27] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: there are many vivaldi posts [19:27] schestowitz-TR some are short [19:27] DaemonFC I doubt the Windows driver would even work anymore, and even if it did, why in God's name would you trust an XFS partition to it? [19:27] schestowitz-TR aggregating them in one later on can be handy [19:28] DaemonFC Yes, if you want to put them all in one, that might work better. [19:28] schestowitz-TR that's the nature of blogging [19:28] schestowitz-TR many short and disparate pieces [19:28] DaemonFC Blogging about developments in an investigation is.....yeah, like that. [19:28] schestowitz-TR that's why we connect them in wiki clusters [19:28] schestowitz-TR but you need to first finish them and decide the order [19:28] schestowitz-TR not always posting time chronologically [19:29] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: on github I have 15-20 parts [19:29] schestowitz-TR I still don't know about order of issues [19:29] schestowitz-TR but none is time-sensitive [19:29] schestowitz-TR so monday it might start one part per week [19:48] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/til-duckduckgos-headquarters-is-smaller-than-my-apartment/ [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | TIL: DuckDuckGos headquarters is smaller than my apartment. BaronHK's Rants [19:48] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, When they were new, they had a XMPP server at DDG. [19:48] DaemonFC I ended up using it, and then they got rid of it. [19:51] techrights-news [Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO Mafia http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/no-upca/ #upca #upc #teamupc #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO Mafia | Techrights [19:52] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: DDG is a scam [19:52] schestowitz-TR highly advertised though [19:52] schestowitz-TR they pretend to be some small startup [19:52] DaemonFC Very obvious, except superficially maybe. [19:53] schestowitz-TR shoving lots of ads into technical forums [19:54] DaemonFC Bing (Microsoft) [19:54] schestowitz-TR I vomit a litle when I see these [19:54] DaemonFC Google (the Great Satan) [19:54] DaemonFC DDG (Bing) [19:54] schestowitz-TR they pretend it's some forum post by "Hi, I'm gabe" [19:54] DaemonFC Yahoo (Bing) [19:54] schestowitz-TR actually more like a front for "hi, I'm creepy uncle bill" [19:54] DaemonFC Neeva (Ex-Google employees, pay us $60 a year to search for things. It's good, just pay us.") [19:55] DaemonFC Ecosia (We're Bing and plant trees.) [19:55] schestowitz-TR greenwash [19:55] schestowitz-TR never head of them [19:55] DaemonFC Startpage (We're an "Ethical Ads" company and we scrape and pay Google.) [19:55] schestowitz-TR startpage is system1 [19:55] schestowitz-TR which also owned waterfox now [19:56] schestowitz-TR *owns [19:56] schestowitz-TR or mostly owns [19:56] DaemonFC Qwant (Weird French thing with bad results and lots of ads. Seems largely based on Bing. French government fiat says use Qwant at government offices.) [19:57] DaemonFC https://lutris.net/downloads/ [19:57] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: lutris.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lutris.net/downloads/ [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lutris.net | Download Lutris [19:57] DaemonFC Lutris recommends using a Debian repo they host on OpenSUSE build service. [19:57] schestowitz-TR does not say much [19:58] DaemonFC Oh sure, why not? ● Oct 15 [20:01] *mahlon has quit (Quit: PotatoTech) [20:03] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm definitely seeing better throughput with my MTU tweak. [20:03] DaemonFC It turns out that this fucking NOKIA router chokes if you have MTU higher than 1420. [20:04] DaemonFC If you use path MTU discovery, you find out that the router itself is the hop where everything gets fragmented otherwise. [20:05] activelow maybe it isn't the nokia router? [20:06] DaemonFC Cell networks in the US typically don't get along too well with MTU 1500. [20:06] DaemonFC But T-Mobile does Home Internet and then doesn't mention that it won't work well even though that's the default MTU on the three major operating systems. [20:07] activelow MTU is ethernet without any encapsulation anywhere [20:08] activelow and ethernet isn't the only carrier, although, normally the nokia router should transparently handle this, and fragment the ip [20:11] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: sorry, cannot reply much atm. busy with two long epo articles [20:12] techrights-news Uh oh, looks like Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder is going to suck all my time away | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/uh-oh-looks-like-despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-is-going-to-suck-all-my-time-away #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [20:12] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/uh-oh-looks-like-despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-is-going-to-suck-all-my-time-away [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uh oh, looks like Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder is going to suck all my time away | GamingOnLinux [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:13] techrights-news "Blue Mammoth Games announced that later in October that the platform-fighter Brawlhalla will be getting Easy Anti-Cheat. Thankfully, they've put up a Beta for #GNU #Linux users playing it on Steam Play Proton and it works." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/brawlhalla-to-get-easy-anti-cheat-dev-puts-up-beta-with-eac-working-on-linux-with-proton [20:13] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/brawlhalla-to-get-easy-anti-cheat-dev-puts-up-beta-with-eac-working-on-linux-with-proton [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brawlhalla to get Easy Anti-Cheat, dev puts up Beta with EAC working on Linux with Proton | GamingOnLinux [20:14] techrights-news #microsoft #apple and some Microsoft proxies gain more control over #blender3d (yes, that is what they pay for) https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/apple-is-now-funding-blender-development-joining-many-big-names [20:14] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/apple-is-now-funding-blender-development-joining-many-big-names [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple is now funding Blender development joining many big names | GamingOnLinux [20:16] techrights-news #Google is breaking the web to rebuild it in their own image. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P39Buvpzjaw #microsoft has even helped them... shared of overlapping interests, e.g. #drm (EME) [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Google is breaking the web to rebuild it in their own image. - Invidious [20:19] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/brave-web-browser-will-add-bounce-tracking-privacy-protection/ [20:19] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/brave-web-browser-will-add-bounce-tracking-privacy-protection/ [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Brave web browser will add bounce tracking privacy protection [20:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:21] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/999166836523520000.jpg [20:21] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/999166836523520000.jpg [20:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6unmuhzzqbv2c.irc) has joined #techrights [20:24] DaemonFC https://github.com/GSConnect/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect/issues/454 [20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XWayland Clipboard Proxy Issue #454 GSConnect/gnome-shell-extension-gsconnect GitHub [20:24] DaemonFC andyholmes commented on Jun 30, 2019 [20:24] DaemonFC Display does not support owner-change; copy/paste will be broken! [20:24] DaemonFC This is because in GDK's Wayland backend the function gdk_display_supports_selection_notification () always returns false. This shouldn't be related to the problem though. [20:24] DaemonFC I'm guessing the error is not showing up in the log because it's a debug message, which won't be logged until Generate Support Log is activated after GSConnect starts. Give this Zip a shot and see if there are any errors during around GSConnect startup: [20:24] DaemonFC gsconnect@andyholmes.github.io.zip [20:25] DaemonFC It's a misleading message then because there is actually no error. [20:25] DaemonFC But then again, the whole system log gets spammed like this. [20:26] DaemonFC That "Parental Controls" app in GNOME logs that it's hiding apps like the Terminal because no Parental Controls rules have been set up. [20:26] DaemonFC But every app it says it's hiding is visible. [20:28] techrights-news #KDE Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition: Five Biggest Changes! - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/xbJ8zb25JfekRsotmi1EVX #gnu #linux [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition: Five Biggest Changes! - Kockatoo Tube [20:32] techrights-news #Devuan 4.0 'Chimaera' Systemd-Free Distro Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156785#comment-31392 #gnu #linux [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan GNU+Linux 4.0 Chimaera Released for Software Freedom Lovers, Based on Debian Bullseye | Tux Machines [20:38] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156830 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:38] techrights-news What Happens When You Run a Command in GNU/Linux? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156831 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Happens When You Run a Command in Linux? | Tux Machines [20:39] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@x6x2gkvqza8kk.irc) has joined #techrights [20:52] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:56] techrights-news AMD Finally Enabling PSR By Default For Newer Hardware With Linux 5.16 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Linux-5.16-PSR #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [20:56] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-Linux-5.16-PSR [20:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Finally Enabling PSR By Default For Newer Hardware With Linux 5.16 - Phoronix ● Oct 15 [21:01] techrights-news Cluster Scheduler Support Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.16 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-Cluster-Scheduler #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [21:01] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-Cluster-Scheduler [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cluster Scheduler Support Queued Ahead Of Linux 5.16 - Phoronix [21:03] techrights-news #Facebook Should Clarify Terms of Service, Irish #Privacy Regulator Says https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-should-clarify-terms-of-service-irish-privacy-regulator-says-11634290201 [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Should Clarify Terms of Service, Irish Privacy Regulator Says - WSJ [21:04] *m___ (~Adium@ph4anndkq8npe.irc) has joined #techrights [21:04] techrights-news Governments are finding new ways to squash free expression online https://www.economist.com/international/2021/10/16/governments-are-finding-new-ways-to-squash-free-expression-online [21:04] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/international/2021/10/16/governments-are-finding-new-ways-to-squash-free-expression-online [21:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Governments are finding new ways to squash free expression online | The Economist [21:06] techrights-news #openwrt needs to #deletegithub ... these cosmetic changes are not enough to compel or drive mass adoption https://openwrt.org/submitting-patches?rev=1634286765&do=diff note: I know #microsoft has just a mirror of https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/openwrt.git;a=summary [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Submitting patches [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.openwrt.org Git - openwrt/openwrt.git/summary [21:08] techrights-news #Xubuntu 21.10 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156832 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 21.10 released! | Tux Machines [21:12] techrights-news digiKam - digiKam Recipes 21.10.15 released https://www.digikam.org/news/2021-10-13_digikam_recipes_21.10.15_released/ #digikam #kde #gnu #linux #freesw [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digikam.org | digiKam - digiKam Recipes 21.10.15 released [21:14] techrights-news #Microsoft became so irrelevant in Web #servers that it is not even mentioned anymore and most tables don't even list Microsoft (it's miniscule, outside view) https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/10/15/october-2021-web-server-survey.html [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | October 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News [21:22] techrights-news From Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month -- How the EPO is Becoming a #Sweatshop by Patent Examiners' Standards http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-sweatshop/ #epo #patents #europe @zoobab @glynmoody @fosspatents [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month How the EPO is Becoming a Sweatshop by Patent Examiners Standards | Techrights [21:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9zjnn8rwxmz6q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/debian-blocks-vpn-and-tor-users-from-reading-its-wiki/ [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Debian blocks VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. BaronHK's Rants [21:30] schestowitz-TR classy [21:30] schestowitz-TR but.. [21:30] schestowitz-TR maybe tor users abused it [21:30] schestowitz-TR to get revenge [21:30] schestowitz-TR or is that for reading too? [21:31] schestowitz-TR or also editiing [21:31] schestowitz-TR due to spam we limited edits on our own wiki [21:31] schestowitz-TR which used to be open for all to edit [21:33] DaemonFC You can't even read it. [21:34] schestowitz-TR maybe worth a mention in the blog [21:34] schestowitz-TR seems odd [21:35] schestowitz-TR it's not like they can abuse the wiki [21:35] schestowitz-TR unlike, say, irc server [21:35] schestowitz-TR or blog with comments [21:35] DaemonFC 1,600+ views on the Vivaldi GPLv3 thing on Reddit. [21:35] DaemonFC Seems like maybe others can read it, but it still says mods and me only. [21:36] schestowitz-TR which "sub"? [21:36] schestowitz-TR sometimes the mods have conflict of interest [21:36] schestowitz-TR like working for the company the sub is about [21:37] schestowitz-TR in which case, maybe you exposed something vivaldi is fearful of [21:40] DaemonFC r/uBlockOrigin [21:43] schestowitz-TR who are the mods? [21:45] techrights-news The brand "Linux" is still bring spammed abuse by some supposed "artist" who goes by the name "Linux". Where #linuxfoundation when #trademark enforcement is in order? Afraid to sue someone trans? [21:46] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/about/moderators/ [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The original uBlock project [21:47] techrights-news Thomas Claburn in #theregister spreads #propaganda for #facebook and others. THIS IS NOT END-TO-END!!! This is mass #surveillance but they're spamming and misusing the term "E2E". They mislead the public into being spied on (without knowing it). https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/whatsapps_backups_encryption/ [21:47] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/14/whatsapps_backups_encryption/ [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | WhatsApp's got your back(ups) with encryption for stored messages The Register [21:48] techrights-news "We have our script that sets up the system... now we make our script to automatically make our desktop the best looking one out there!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DwGXMLy0uwU [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Live - Time to Rice and Make the Best Looking Desktop - Invidious [21:48] DaemonFC I'm refreshing my Debian Live USB stick to 11.1. [21:48] DaemonFC I did this every now and then on Fedora just in case. [21:49] DaemonFC They had a lot of update churn and if you used the original release ISO you basically had to re-download the entire OS again anyway through dnf update. [21:50] techrights-news #ibm #redhat #clownwashing "Bare metal clowns are gaining a lot of momentum in the telecommunications industrybut why? What is a bare metal clown, and what are the benefits of using it? In this post, we answer these questions and more." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-bare-metal-cloud-powering-telecommunications-industry [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How bare metal cloud is powering the telecommunications industry [21:51] schestowitz https://lwn.net/Articles/872710/rss [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/872710/rss ) [21:51] schestowitz "[$] Possible changes to Debian's decision-making processes" [21:51] schestowitz new [21:51] DaemonFC There's a lot of odd errors in my GNOME logs. [21:51] DaemonFC Most seem to be non-fatal and not the result of anything I've done. (They happen in the live USB, which would be all Debian's fault.) [21:51] DaemonFC It looks sort of tacky. [21:52] techrights-news #canonical is naming #ubuntu #linux #kernel packages after #microsoft https://lwn.net/Articles/873056/rss Azure = EPIC failure. http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Friday [LWN.net] [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights [21:52] DaemonFC 1,700 views [21:52] DaemonFC Whoa. [21:52] DaemonFC Racking them up fast. [21:52] DaemonFC I'm the top post on the sub right now. [21:52] schestowitz-TR good [21:52] DaemonFC Maybe I'll get some reply from gorhill. [21:53] DaemonFC If Vivaldi is violating his license, they need to be poked in the eye. [21:55] techrights-news Software testing - a 32-year-old message https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/software-development-qa-message.html #dedoimedo #programming [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | Software testing - a 32-year-old message [21:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:56] techrights-news Automated bibisect to find source of a bug - #LibreOffice Development Blog https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/10/14/automated-bibisect-to-find-source-of-a-bug/ #documentfoundation [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.blog.documentfoundation.org | Automated bibisect to find source of a bug - LibreOffice Development Blog [21:57] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:57] techrights-news Next batch of videos from the LibreOffice Conference 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/10/15/next-batch-of-videos-from-the-libreoffice-conference-2021/ #documentfoundation #opendocument #freesw #libreoffice #odf [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Next batch of videos from the LibreOffice Conference 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog [21:59] XRevan86 Rosbalt is now deemed a foreign agent. [21:59] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/how-attackers-hack-humans [21:59] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/edge-articles/how-attackers-hack-humans [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | How Attackers Hack Humans [21:59] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: So are you ;-) [21:59] XRevan86 For some reason the Russian government is determined to make every feed in my feed reader a "foreign agent". ● Oct 15 [22:00] schestowitz-TR sooner or later even Putin's chef will be a foreign agent [22:00] schestowitz-TR for causing bad publicity [22:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: "Putin's chef" is a nickname that Prigozhin has. [22:01] XRevan86 Quite a notorious figure. [22:01] techrights-news #raspberrypi Issue #373 - Robotic tickles https://www.raspberrypi.com/weekly/robotic-tickles/ [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.com | Raspberry Pi Weekly Issue #373 - Robotic tickles [22:01] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: does he make good food? [22:01] schestowitz-TR Can I taste? [22:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://newsweek.com/1380178 [22:02] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: newsweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsweek.com/1380178 [22:02] schestowitz-TR In Saudi Arbia, chef cooks journalist... [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | 'Putin's Chef' Yevgeniy Prigozhin, Accused of Poisoning Preschool Children, Allegedly Tried to Bribe Parents to Drop Lawsuit [22:02] XRevan86 (2019) [22:03] XRevan86 Navalny's ally Lubov' Sobol' got heavily sued by him for investigating this. [22:03] techrights-news Institutional capture by an IP (litigation) Mafia is nearly complete; with illegal so-called (anti) Strike Regulations out the door, theyre quickly moving on to another plan, or so it seems on the surface http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/stirling-and-pan-european-seal-programme/ [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With EPO Strike Regulations Belatedly Ruled Unlawful, EPO Management May be Lowering the Salary Even Further by Introducing Outside Temps or Casual Workers | Techrights [22:03] schestowitz-TR Is Navalny's ally Lubov' Sobol' Navalny's chef? [22:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: [22:04] schestowitz-TR do chefs have chefs? [22:04] schestowitz-TR for when they want to sit down for a nic dinners? [22:04] *leah has quit (connection closed) [22:04] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@qfxzr8qtzwh3k.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] schestowitz-TR like a barber's barber.. [22:04] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [22:05] schestowitz-TR dentists' dentists [22:05] schestowitz-TR what about prostitutes? [22:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Those definitely don't need any additional services. [22:05] schestowitz-TR do prostitutes pay for other prostitutes? [22:05] schestowitz-TR so you ask your barber: [22:06] schestowitz-TR "who cuts your hair?" [22:06] schestowitz-TR "is s/he any good?' [22:06] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/australia-to-tackle-ransomware-data-breaches-by-deleting-stolen-files/ [22:06] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/australia-to-tackle-ransomware-data-breaches-by-deleting-stolen-files/ [22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Australia to tackle ransomware data breaches by deleting stolen files [22:07] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: ah [22:07] schestowitz-TR [13:47] #Microsoft has infiltrated think tanks about #ransomware , so now instead of tackling the #security breaches themselves (which can lead to sabotage or worse) they treat it like a financial transaction issue. http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights [22:07] schestowitz-TR [13:32] They need to crack down on #Microsoft #Windows , instead; they use their #NSA #backdoors as a ruse to protect #bigbanks https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/ [22:07] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/15/ransomware_summit_cryptocurrency_crackdown/ [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | White House ransomware summit calls for crypto crackdown The Register [22:09] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: Australia being dense as usual [22:09] schestowitz-TR they also expressed willingless to grant a patent to a bot [22:09] schestowitz-TR inventor on the 'puter ;-) [22:09] schestowitz-TR "hey hi" [22:11] techrights-news Deleting #GitHub isnt a political statement but a pragmatic decision, seeing how #Microsoft routinely misuses its control over GitHub to manipulate the market http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/github-control-by-microsoft/ [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] GitHub Isnt Free Hosting, Its All About Control by Microsoft | Techrights [22:11] DaemonFC Oh nice. [22:11] DaemonFC Lutris seems to be stuck on checking for runtime updates. [22:11] techrights-news A longish video about the dreadful situation at the EPO, where staff is being robbed and #EPO funds get funnelled into some dodgy #stockmarket investments (a clear violation of the institutions charter) http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-sweatshop/ [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | From Competitive (Top-Level, High-Calibre, Well-Paid) Jobs to 2,000 Euros a Month How the EPO is Becoming a Sweatshop by Patent Examiners Standards | Techrights [22:12] techrights-news With flagrant disregard for court rulings (or workarounds to dodge actual compliance) it seems clear that todays #EPO management is allergic to justice and to judges; European #Patents perish at unprecedented levels in national European courts and it should be kept that way http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/no-upca/ [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Protecting European Patent Courts From EPO Mafia | Techrights [22:13] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [22:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7ednhvrxt2zag.irc) has joined #techrights [22:14] techrights-news LHS Crew: latest on #gnu #linux https://lhspodcast.info/2021/10/lhs-episode-435-the-weekender-lxxx-2/ [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #435: The Weekender LXXX | Linux in the Ham Shack [22:15] techrights-news Michael Meeks: "A day of gut-wrenching TDF administrative angst; draining." What happened? #libreoffice [22:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I really hate computer software in general. [22:15] DaemonFC The whole smash. I mean, open source stuff tends to be better than Microsoft, but it's hard to not be. [22:16] DaemonFC Debian is just a packager, like other distributions, and when they bring in GNOME, they get the bugs straight outta GNOME, and it logs its bugs to the system log, and some of them are just kind of an embarrassment, like "This is ugly and seems trivial. Why don't they fix it?". [22:16] DaemonFC KDE has those too. [22:17] DaemonFC Every Event Viewer I bring up (that's what Windows calls it) logs bugs in the OS. All over the OS. [22:17] DaemonFC The Windows event viewer logged tons of them, of course. [22:17] DaemonFC So it's obviously pretty messed up and as long as it isn't visible to the user, they don't seem to care at all, and they don't care much if it is. [22:18] DaemonFC They have this app called Feedback Hub. When I saw it in Windows 10, I started reporting feedback, but nobody from Microsoft ever responded. [22:19] DaemonFC Then it turned into a den of "COVID vaccines are the new world order, Trump won the election, and Joe Biden drinks the blood of children", in area for feedback on Windows components. [22:19] schestowitz-TR :-) [22:21] techrights-news "What you shouldnt publish on Steam" there's a new line that states "Applications built on blockchain technology that issue or allow exchange of cryptocurrencies or NFTs". https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/valve-banning-games-that-allow-exchanging-cryptocurrencies-or-nfts [22:21] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/valve-banning-games-that-allow-exchanging-cryptocurrencies-or-nfts [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve banning games that allow exchanging cryptocurrencies or NFTs | GamingOnLinux [22:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I have a reader in Hong Kong that seems to come back and read something every day. [22:22] techrights-news " #GDQuest , a well-known name in the free and open source Godot Engine land has launched a new crowdfunding campaign aiming to get you to go from zero to hero with #Godot #programming ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/check-out-this-crowdfunding-campaign-to-learn-godot-engine-from-gdquest [22:22] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/check-out-this-crowdfunding-campaign-to-learn-godot-engine-from-gdquest [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Check out this crowdfunding campaign to learn Godot Engine from GDQuest | GamingOnLinux [22:22] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the baron? [22:22] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [22:24] DaemonFC Yes. [22:24] techrights-news #LibreOffice Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156833 #tdf #freesw #TuxMachines [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:25] DaemonFC I started using that a long time ago because I watched the 1984 version of Dune and while I've always thought it was a terrible movie, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen made me laugh hysterically. [22:25] DaemonFC It also got me to read the book, which was great. It's not the best selling sci fi book of all time for no reason. [22:26] schestowitz-TR ah, yes, that's the reference [22:26] DaemonFC The movie was just completely stupid from beginning to end, but the Baron was at least funny. [22:26] schestowitz-TR today I think our gemini capsule will serve 30k pages [22:26] schestowitz-TR I think all-time high [22:26] schestowitz-TR downside is, it's starting to slow down our home network [22:27] schestowitz-TR even at 10k per page, that adds up [22:27] schestowitz-TR 10KB [22:27] schestowitz-TR plus the TLS stuff [22:27] DaemonFC I'm not sure anyone will ever do the book quite right. [22:27] techrights-news #Games: Dystopian Army Builder, Hellraid DLC, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156834 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Dystopian Army Builder, Hellraid DLC, and More | Tux Machines [22:28] DaemonFC The Sci-Fi Channel miniseries and the sequel were quite good, if a bit dry. [22:28] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: can you read a detailed post of ours? [22:28] DaemonFC Again, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen stole the show. But he did in all of the books too. [22:28] DaemonFC Yeah. [22:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XIII: Battistellis Iberian Facilitators Spain | Techrights [22:29] schestowitz thanks. [22:30] *schestowitz will read baronkh posts in the meantime [22:42] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: is it ok to merge the two vivaldi posts? [22:42] DaemonFC Yeah [22:42] schestowitz-TR I will thing how to fuse them [22:43] schestowitz-TR reddit post second [22:43] techrights-news The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XIII: #Battistelli s Iberian Facilitators #Spain http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ #epo #corruption #es @zoobab [22:48] DaemonFC Sorry, NordVPN keeps wanting to give me servers that are overloaded. [22:49] DaemonFC Article looks okay. [22:49] schestowitz-TR thanks! [22:50] schestowitz-TR github :/ [22:53] schestowitz-TR ahaha [22:53] schestowitz-TR IBM-paid NPR [22:53] schestowitz-TR yes, IBM controls the media a lot [22:53] schestowitz-TR more than most companies I know, except maybe Microsoft [22:53] schestowitz-TR sometimes they control the media by proxy, e.g. LF [22:54] schestowitz-TR Big Blue Liars. [22:55] DaemonFC I'm downloading Vivaldi's latest source code dump. [22:56] DaemonFC See if it has anything interesting when I go through it. [22:59] schestowitz-TR I did not find any errors or typos [22:59] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) ● Oct 15 [23:00] techrights-news Post About Whether Vivaldi is a #GPL violation Was Quietly Knifed by the Mods of /r/uBlockOrigin in #Reddit http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/vivaldi-and-gpl/ #Techrights #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/vivaldi-and-gpl/ [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Post About Whether Vivaldi is a GPL violation Was Quietly Knifed by the Mods of /r/uBlockOrigin in Reddit | Techrights [23:00] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.117.129) has joined #techrights [23:03] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It's apparently been visible again to others for a while now. [23:03] DaemonFC It got the attention of the author, who said he didn't see the code I was referring to. [23:03] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [23:03] DaemonFC I pointed him to the ThirdParty subfolder. [23:04] DaemonFC It's going to be a while before I can look at the code from Vivaldi 4.3. [23:04] DaemonFC It's almsot 2 GB and that's very large for a web browser. [23:04] DaemonFC Too large. [23:04] activelow sick [23:05] activelow to remain fair counting lines of code is necessary too, and compare this against any other reference [23:06] DaemonFC Opera 3.62 (binary form) was 1.38 MB, and that was installed. [23:06] DaemonFC You actually could run it from a floppy disk. [23:07] schestowitz DaemonFC: "Web browsers" [23:07] schestowitz I prefer uppercase [23:07] schestowitz like "Internet [23:07] DaemonFC An entire Linux kernel tarball is 1/20th the size of Chromium. [23:07] activelow floppy disk is relevant as a reference to envision this [23:08] DaemonFC And that has to run dozens of architectures of CPU, tens of thousands of devices (more)? [23:08] DaemonFC It has to do a lot of stuff, and a stinking web browser is 20 times that big. [23:08] schestowitz "DuckDuckGo quite easy" -> DuckDuckGo quite easily [23:08] DaemonFC ahh [23:09] DaemonFC Where was this? [23:10] DaemonFC The problem with running NordVPN on T-Mobile is mostly that each one of them has throttling policies in place for when their networks get congested. [23:11] DaemonFC It avoids them having to add capacity. [23:11] schestowitz-TR the rest is perfect [23:11] DaemonFC You never know which one is doing it, but if you disconnect from the VPN it's less likely, because then only T-Mobile's policy is in effect. [23:11] schestowitz-TR and covers all the important "bases", I thin [23:11] schestowitz-TR *think [23:11] schestowitz-TR I've linked to our catalogue of issues with DDG [23:12] schestowitz-TR it's accessed hundreds of times each day, still [23:12] DaemonFC I'll fix that. [23:13] schestowitz-TR btw [23:13] schestowitz-TR recently, according to microsoft tim, ddg was frontiong for microsoft's anti-google lobby [23:13] schestowitz-TR in the euw [23:13] schestowitz-TR *wu [23:13] schestowitz-TR which might be revealing of their tue purpuse [23:13] schestowitz-TR envious microsoft has long done that in the eu [23:14] techrights-news #DuckDuckGo s HQ is Smaller Than My Apartment http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/dodgyduckgo/ #Techrights #privacy #microsoft #google | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/dodgyduckgo/ [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | DuckDuckGos HQ is Smaller Than My Apartment | Techrights [23:15] techrights-news #Debian blocks #VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/15/debian-blocks-vpn-and-tor-users-from-reading-its-wiki/ #privacy [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Debian blocks VPN and Tor users from reading its Wiki. BaronHK's Rants [23:16] techrights-news The EPOs Antnio Campinos is an Academy of overt nepotism; what Benot Battistelli did mostly in #France Campinos does in #Spain and #Portugal , severely harming the international image of these countries http://techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ #Techrights #GNU | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/15/epo-iberian-facilitators/ [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XIII: Battistellis Iberian Facilitators Spain | Techrights [23:17] techrights-news Basics Of Remote Cellular Access: Watchdogs | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/14/basics-of-remote-cellular-access-watchdogs/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/15/#latest [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Basics Of Remote Cellular Access: Watchdogs | Hackaday [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [23:18] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I think the whole point of DuckDuckGo is to trick people into using Bing because it doesn't have the Microsoft stench all over it. [23:18] DaemonFC That was the point of their Yahoo Deal. [23:18] techrights-news #microsoft is #googlebombing "Linux" again with #openwashing and old spam. #deletegithub [23:19] DaemonFC It redirects people to Bing search results and makes money for Microsoft. DuckDuckGo may not be using Microsoft's ads network, but they have to pay them royalties to get Bing's search results. [23:19] techrights-news #microsoft won't let a single day pass by without #linux news being linked to Microsoft's #proprietarySoftware while #zemlin and his Sunshine Boys bag a big salary and grin at #billgates [23:19] DaemonFC If they really were interested in doing better than this, they'd be directing more money into improving the "duckduckbot" so that they didn't need Microsoft at all. [23:20] schestowitz-TR I wonder who funds DDG [23:20] schestowitz-TR that alone makes you wonder [23:20] schestowitz-TR or what bill they pay for hosting [23:20] DaemonFC Well, they can afford to be in the major browsers. [23:20] schestowitz-TR maybe it's free given some secret deal [23:20] DaemonFC Safari was the first. [23:20] schestowitz-TR worth digging intoi [23:21] DaemonFC Then Firefox, then Chrome, then Vivaldi. [23:21] schestowitz-TR also qutebrowser [23:21] DaemonFC Google has reasons to offer them in there because of antitrust. [23:21] schestowitz-TR lots of idiotic gnu/linux distros wrongly assume this is OK [23:21] DaemonFC They can say you don't have to use Google Search just because you use Chrome. [23:21] schestowitz-TR or they take money from those lying charlatans [23:21] schestowitz-TR so where does this money all come from? [23:21] DaemonFC Meanwhile, Chrome is reporting everything about you to Google AND to DuckDuckGo now. [23:21] DaemonFC So that's not better. [23:21] schestowitz-TR couple dipping [23:21] schestowitz-TR *double [23:22] DaemonFC By default, Chrome sync uses your Google password, which means they can decrypt it and start crawling everything in it. [23:22] schestowitz-TR yes, it's terrible [23:22] DaemonFC Vivaldi Sync forces you to have your Vivaldi account _and_ a separate password to decrypt the data client-side. [23:23] schestowitz-TR people now think it's normal to "upload" their passwords [23:23] schestowitz-TR "it's safe! They're BIG companies! Trust the big boyz" [23:23] schestowitz-TR my stupid employer did this [23:23] schestowitz-TR worse [23:23] schestowitz-TR we once had staff that send passwords around in plain text email [23:24] schestowitz-TR using gmail! [23:24] schestowitz-TR or to a gmail account [23:24] DaemonFC At least Vivaldi doesn't use your Vivaldi Account password for the sync data! [23:24] DaemonFC If the server got attacked, then the people doing it could decrypt everything with the same password. [23:24] schestowitz-TR data sync should not leave your own network [23:25] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the company might not even tell you when that happens [23:25] schestowitz-TR or Jon might sell to china again [23:25] DaemonFC Only some complete bonehead would do it where the sync and account passwords are the same. [23:31] DaemonFC Adblock Plus and uBlock-Origin are in the Vivaldi 4.3 source bundle. [23:31] DaemonFC Some of the Calendar code is. [23:32] DaemonFC The email code doesn't seem to be there. [23:33] DaemonFC amazing_grace.mp3 [23:33] techrights-news Is this site being paid to promote this #microsoft #windows trash? No other explanation for such a post. :/ Come on, Jean-Luc... https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Mini-PCs/PN-PB-series/Mini-PC-PN41/ [23:33] -altlink_6b2/#techrights- Cloudflare: asus.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.asus.com/Displays-Desktops/Mini-PCs/PN-PB-series/Mini-PC-PN41/ [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mini PC PN41Mini PCsASUS Global [23:33] DaemonFC That's in the source bundle? [23:33] DaemonFC A 7.3 MB MP3 of Amazing Grace? [23:34] DaemonFC It's from Chromium. [23:34] DaemonFC It's under third_party/libaom/fuzz/av1_dec_fuzzer_corpus/legacy_streams [23:34] schestowitz-TR it is considered racist now [23:34] schestowitz-TR which I can sort of understand [23:35] DaemonFC They used that song in one of the movies that MST3K satirized. [23:35] schestowitz-TR some renditions of it are good [23:35] psydruid Jean-Luc Van Damned [23:35] DaemonFC Tom Servo sang "This song is in the public domain. That's why we used it 12 times!". [23:35] schestowitz-TR Jean-Luc Van Icaza [23:36] DaemonFC Jean-Claude Gosh Darn. [23:36] DaemonFC Geez, at least get it right. :) [23:36] psydruid [23:36] psydruid Microsoft did the world a huge favour actually [23:36] schestowitz-TR Jean-Claude Siegal [23:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I can't seem to find that news article. [23:37] DaemonFC Maybe in the Archive? [23:37] schestowitz-TR no idea... [23:37] psydruid If Vista 11 makes all hardware from before 2018 obsolete and sometimes even newer [23:37] DaemonFC That Texas child molester that told the cops he got his CP trove off of Bing. [23:37] psydruid What is the point of sticking with x86? [23:37] DaemonFC They tried to sweat it out of him like he had a dealer, and it was Microsoft. [23:37] schestowitz-TR can't recall such a thing [23:37] schestowitz-TR but... [23:37] schestowitz-TR I can find related articles [23:37] schestowitz-TR in boinboing [23:37] schestowitz-TR about how bing gives CP [23:38] schestowitz-TR and then suggests more to you [23:38] DaemonFC I think those people should just be shot. [23:38] schestowitz-TR "you gotta be careful" [23:38] schestowitz-TR you know? [23:38] schestowitz-TR "well, he's dead" [23:38] DaemonFC I mean, the state will ruin most of them in court to where they'll never do anything again except go to prison. [23:38] DaemonFC Why not just put them out of our misery or on a chain gang somewhere? [23:38] schestowitz-TR I had a friend in the gym who thought the same [23:39] schestowitz-TR that convicted pedos should be executed [23:39] schestowitz-TR I responded by saying, what about murderers? [23:39] schestowitz-TR She said pedophiles were worse [23:39] DaemonFC I'd say executed or lifetime in prison and sentenced to hard labor. [23:39] DaemonFC No medical care. [23:39] schestowitz-TR and had her explanation as to why [23:39] DaemonFC They die whenever they fall over. [23:40] schestowitz-TR mental sickness is one thing [23:40] schestowitz-TR but, according to her, this has many victims [23:40] DaemonFC That's not a mental illness. [23:40] schestowitz-TR and they cannot help themselves [23:40] schestowitz-TR repeeated crime being a matter of time [23:40] DaemonFC It's a sexual preference that is 100% predatory. [23:40] schestowitz-TR she was abused as a kid, but not sexually afaik [23:40] DaemonFC I don't think we ought to show them much mercy. [23:41] schestowitz-TR "Well, he's dead" [23:41] DaemonFC There are crimes I get, like, you come home and you find your spouse in bed with someone else, so you shoot both of them. Those people should go to prison for a while and the goal should be punishment and reform. [23:41] DaemonFC You can't reform a chomo. [23:41] DaemonFC People have tried everything. [23:42] schestowitz-TR how is his name pronnounced? [23:42] schestowitz-TR bear in mind, I don't watch TV? [23:42] schestowitz-TR *pronounced [23:42] schestowitz-TR I read that as Italian [23:42] schestowitz-TR Coo-omo [23:43] DaemonFC Cuomo? LOL [23:43] schestowitz-TR Reminds me of the "no-homo" jokes in youtube [23:43] schestowitz-TR I think it's made by gays [23:43] schestowitz-TR the ones that have a sense of humour anyway [23:43] schestowitz-TR not very thin-skinned ones [23:46] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: how is that pronounced? [23:46] schestowitz-TR from what I saw, Ballmer has his own inner-Andrew [23:47] kingoffrance quo-moe ? is that wrong? [23:47] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [23:47] kingoffrance i dont think ive heard anything else [23:48] schestowitz-TR I thought quomo [23:48] DaemonFC kwaay moe [23:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: ryan, what do you make of that ballmer video? [23:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4 [23:50] DaemonFC The one with him sweating from his armpits and jumping up and down like an idiot? [23:50] schestowitz-TR no, this new one [23:50] schestowitz-TR he and gates [23:50] schestowitz-TR noi geniuses [23:50] schestowitz-TR but confirmed perverts of sorts [23:50] DaemonFC That's.... [23:51] DaemonFC creepy [23:51] schestowitz-TR can't there be more sane tech execs? [23:51] DaemonFC Maybe you should ask mjg59 about that. [23:51] DaemonFC Next time he says something under a pseudonym in the middle of the night. [23:52] schestowitz-TR well, I'd rather ignore the troll [23:52] schestowitz-TR but anyway [23:52] schestowitz-TR I notice much deflection [23:52] schestowitz-TR like the RMS thing in 2019 [23:52] DaemonFC I'm trying to track down that old Windows Adventure game. [23:53] DaemonFC It was a Windows 3 port of Colossal Cave Adventure. [23:53] DaemonFC I think it was the first time I ran into the GNU GPL. Oddly, I had no idea what it meant. [23:53] DaemonFC But I don't recall seeing any source code included on the Galaxy of Games CD. [23:53] schestowitz-TR major uproad over a poorly worded mailing list post in mit [23:53] schestowitz-TR coverup over money from gates and epstein plus thier tight connection [23:53] schestowitz-TR we know who amplified the signal and who distracted from it [23:55] schestowitz-TR when is that game from? [23:55] techrights-news #OpenSSH, Squid, PostgreSQL Update in #Tumbleweed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156835 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSSH, Squid, PostgreSQL Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines [23:56] MinceR 15 230142 < schestowitz-TR> XRevan86: does he make good food? [23:56] MinceR spices it all wrong [23:56] MinceR way too much polonium [23:56] schestowitz-TR spaghetti polognese [23:56] MinceR lol [23:57] schestowitz-TR one wrong molecule [23:57] schestowitz-TR spoils the borth [23:57] schestowitz-TR *broth even [23:57] MinceR Too Many Cooks... [23:57] schestowitz-TR keep the doctor away [23:57] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8 [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Too Many Cooks | Adult Swim - YouTube [23:58] schestowitz-TR yes, I know [23:58] techrights-news #Kernel: Paul E. Mc Kenney and New Stuff in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156836 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Paul E. Mc Kenney and New Stuff in Linux | Tux Machines [23:58] schestowitz-TR there's also "too many chiefs and not enough indians in this place..."