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| Ariadne | [15:59] <da8e00schestowitz> is Ariadne aware? | Nov 15 00:02 |
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| Ariadne | aware of what? | Nov 15 00:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure you know | Nov 15 00:02 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/14/drm-loves-centralisation/ | Nov 15 00:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] DRM Loves Wintel/Microsoft/Centralisation/Monopoly | Techrights | Nov 15 00:03 | |
| Ariadne | I have no plan to put Holika on github even though it won't have the L3 key | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | mass decapitation | Nov 15 00:03 |
| Ariadne | I'm not stupid :) | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | they move on | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | from youtube-dl | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | with its URL look-up | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | fake DRM | Nov 15 00:03 |
| schestowitz | to other forms | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | dmca takedowns mutating fast | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | we need to evolve and spread to adaprt | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | not by clicking fork in proprietary github | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | but distributed development | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | like gnu used to be | Nov 15 00:04 |
| Ariadne | although even still Holika should be DMCA safe since it's for enabling interoperability | Nov 15 00:04 |
| schestowitz | like I said | Nov 15 00:05 |
| schestowitz | these things aee evolving | Nov 15 00:05 |
| schestowitz | we should too | Nov 15 00:05 |
| schestowitz | there's something in the air | Nov 15 00:05 |
| schestowitz | github is at the centre | Nov 15 00:06 |
| schestowitz | they no longer need to explain themselves | Nov 15 00:06 |
| schestowitz | and the media stopped caring | Nov 15 00:06 |
| MinceR | DMCA bans interoperability in some cases, iirc | Nov 15 00:06 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter what it does | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | what it alleged is what matters | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | as it seems compliance is done blindly, i.e. censorship | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | same for google url takedowns | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | they don't even check | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | sometimes it's not feasible | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | make demand and bam it's gone | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | see megaupload | Nov 15 00:07 |
| schestowitz | didn't just play to their tune | Nov 15 00:08 |
| schestowitz | now extradited like some bali bomber or something | Nov 15 00:08 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2173/ | Nov 15 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Trained a Neural Net | Nov 15 00:08 | |
| CrystalMath | but schestowitz, you are the media, and you do care | Nov 15 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | so it's not all the media | Nov 15 00:16 |
| MinceR | "I am the Senate!" | Nov 15 00:17 |
| schestowitz | "And so's ma wifey" | Nov 15 00:18 |
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| zjmc_ | It sounds better in Latin "Ego senatus" :) I forgot all my Latin, had to use a translation site | Nov 15 00:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 15 00:25 |
| MinceR | Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. | Nov 15 00:25 |
| XRevan86 | Az yesm' tsar' | Nov 15 00:25 |
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| XRevan86 | zjmc_: I don't know Latin but shouldn't it be "ego senatus est"? | Nov 15 00:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kodachi 7.6 โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144377 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0e9d2cdf-9083-4354-a914-7c66e90b210c] | Nov 15 00:29 | |
| zjmc_ | I have no idea, I just used a web site | Nov 15 00:29 |
| zjmc_ | but I was expecting est to be last | Nov 15 00:29 |
| XRevan86 | GT claims it's "Ego senatum" | Nov 15 00:29 |
| zjmc_ | That is where I got it from | Nov 15 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | Here there's no need for a to be, because it's an accusative | Nov 15 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | Az/Ya senatom | Nov 15 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | except what sense does that make? | Nov 15 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | and another question is how do I translate that to English literally? :D | Nov 15 00:31 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming Leftovers โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144378 [https://pleroma.site/objects/127678c3-c687-41f6-8104-b930a5c28d5b] | Nov 15 00:33 | |
| CrystalMath | i mean that techrights is a part of the media | Nov 15 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | i get my news from techrights | Nov 15 00:34 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices/Embedded: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, STM32 โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144379 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2c43196c-d4da-4228-8eb8-0626e6be21eb] | Nov 15 00:40 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBMโs IWB on โSocial Responsibility of Businessโ and Fedora (Red Hat) in โCommunityโ Clothing โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144380 [https://pleroma.site/objects/932c2fe7-6954-49c9-9e1f-63bb14398e4b] | Nov 15 00:45 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs ๐๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐๐๐๐ก๐ข๐ง๐๐ฌ Leftovers โข ๐๐ฆ๐ฉ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144381 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9c55958f-5a43-4ab2-877c-d506774ea96a] | Nov 15 00:49 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 15/11/2020: Linux App Summit 2020, SlackEX Linux Release, and Kodachi 7.6 โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/14/kodachi-7-6/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/d9a6012b-fed2-433d-87f6-e5d2bf6ffa1d] | Nov 15 00:58 | |
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| *XRevan86 backported fonts from Android 11, still can't see the fancy "tuxmachines" on Android. | Nov 15 02:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would consider Github as maybe a mirror. You can't depend on it as a primary hosting site. | Nov 15 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm leaning towards system76 for my next laptop. Who knows when that will be though. | Nov 15 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Coreboot is a strong positive factor. | Nov 15 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No uEFI at all except as an optional decoy to get Windows to work if you're interested in that at all. | Nov 15 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/14/politics/federal-judge-daca-rules-chad-wolf/index.html | Nov 15 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal judge says new DACA rules are invalid - CNNPolitics | Nov 15 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump has sidestepped Congress even though his own party was in control of the Senate, in order to get extreme new Immigration rules in place, but federal courts are ruling that Chad Wolf wasn't the legal head of DHS and all of his actions are invalid and void. | Nov 15 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "McConnell spokesman Doug Andres told CNN on Thursday that there are no scheduling updates or guidance "at the moment" in regards to his confirmation." | Nov 15 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No point. Whoever gets confirmed would be in there for less than 10 weeks and their new regulation wouldn't be finalized before Biden gets in and cancels it. | Nov 15 03:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm really happy about the Debian 10 container in Chrome OS. | Nov 15 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it's an obvious solution for all of the power users who saw them as glorified netbooks and balked at paying $1,000 for a Pixelbook. | Nov 15 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/11/13/21564650/illinois-driver-facilities-closing-through-early-december-covid-19-dmv | Nov 15 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chicago.suntimes.com | Illinois coronavirus: Driver facilities closing through early December - Chicago Sun-Times | Nov 15 03:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm glad I hurried up and renewed our cards before this happened. | Nov 15 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We would never have gotten down there in time with all the documentation they want. | Nov 15 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pritzker said several communities have been defying orders in the past months and if they keep doing so, he said he'll take more extreme measures. | Nov 15 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "With many community leaders choosing not to listen to the doctors, we are left with not many tools in our toolbox to fight this. The numbers don't lie," Pritzker said. "If things don't take a turn in the coming days we will quickly reach the point when some form of mandatory stay-at-home order is all that will be left. With every fiber of my being, I do not want us to get there but right now, that seems like where w | Nov 15 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | are heading." | Nov 15 03:40 |
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| cybrNaut | Apple is monitoring every app than OS X user execute, and when => https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ | Nov 15 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sneak.berlin | Jeffrey Paul: Your Computer Isn't Yours | Nov 15 04:15 | |
| CrystalMath | so much for Apple II making the world nothing like 1984 | Nov 15 04:24 |
| CrystalMath | as they said in the ad | Nov 15 04:24 |
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| CrystalMath | someone needs to Make Apple Great Again! | Nov 15 04:24 |
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| aindilis | Hi folks | Nov 15 04:32 |
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| aindilis | anyone interested in a software system of dossiers automatically extracted from text about people/groups inimical to free/libre software? | Nov 15 04:39 |
| aindilis | The idea is to automatically build a Knowledge Base / Graph about entities from text and then do inference such as Social Network Analysis, etc. | Nov 15 04:42 |
| aindilis | This text processing research area is usually called Knowledge Base Population / Construction (KBP/KBC). | Nov 15 04:45 |
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| aindilis | Here is an early take on it: http://iral.cs.umbc.edu/Pubs/FLAIRS06-AutomatedPopulationOfCyc.pdf | Nov 15 04:57 |
| aindilis | And here is what it looks like today: https://github.com/limanling/uiuc_ie_pipeline_fine_grained | Nov 15 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - limanling/uiuc_ie_pipeline_fine_grained: A script to run fine-grained entity, relation and event extraction | Nov 15 04:57 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/illinois-company-builds-coronavirus-killing-robots-for-hospitals-worldwide/2371921/ | Nov 15 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcchicago.com | Illinois Company Builds Coronavirus-Killing Robots for Hospitals Worldwide โ NBC Chicago | Nov 15 05:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I already knew Apple refused to sign any bittorrent program. | Nov 15 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it involves overriding all of the built-in security just to get a bittorrent program on the machine. I'd be surprised if the user is even allowed to do that once the transition to ARM is complete. | Nov 15 05:48 |
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| schestowitz | aindilis: github? | Nov 15 05:52 |
| aindilis | true | Nov 15 05:53 |
| schestowitz | [02:55] <DaemonFC[m]> Coreboot is a strong positive factor. | Nov 15 05:54 |
| schestowitz | And then you install proprietary browsers | Nov 15 05:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Meh. | Nov 15 06:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The uEFI firmware is notoriously unreliable and poorly built. | Nov 15 06:19 |
| schestowitz | what is all that for then? | Nov 15 06:28 |
| schestowitz | You want coreboot | Nov 15 06:29 |
| schestowitz | but I doubt you can much for the freedom aspects | Nov 15 06:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: fun point apple OS sends signatures of all running programs to there servers for yes or no approval. | Nov 15 06:45 |
| mjg59 | Untrue | Nov 15 06:45 |
| oiaohm | mjg59: https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ Its not untrue its true for the version of Mac OS that runs on the ARM versions. | Nov 15 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sneak.berlin | Jeffrey Paul: Your Computer Isn't Yours | Nov 15 06:47 | |
| mjg59 | oiaohm: The article is incorrect | Nov 15 06:48 |
| oiaohm | I have not seen correction. | Nov 15 06:48 |
| mjg59 | The query includes the developer's signing certificate | Nov 15 06:48 |
| mjg59 | Not the binary hash | Nov 15 06:49 |
| mjg59 | https://blog.jacopo.io/en/post/apple-ocsp/ | Nov 15 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jacopo.io | Does Apple really log every app you run? A technical lookย โย Jacopo Jannone - blog | Nov 15 06:49 | |
| schestowitz | it's bad enough that it phones home | Nov 15 06:49 |
| schestowitz | it'll extend over time | Nov 15 06:49 |
| schestowitz | that cert can help guess what's running | Nov 15 06:49 |
| mjg59 | Sure, there are cases where you can infer what's being run | Nov 15 06:50 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 15 06:50 |
| mjg59 | But the claim that it's sending the signatures of all running programs is incorrect | Nov 15 06:50 |
| schestowitz | and you can blacklist by dev name | Nov 15 06:50 |
| schestowitz | so you are being pedantic | Nov 15 06:50 |
| schestowitz | while the general, overall message is true | Nov 15 06:50 |
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| schestowitz | not sure if there's a name for this | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | a pattern of logic fallacy | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | where you nitpick a little thing | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe 2% of a message | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | prove a little inaccuracy | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | then you say the whole thing is "false" | Nov 15 06:51 |
| schestowitz | there must be a word for that | Nov 15 06:51 |
| mjg59 | Does MacOS submit the signature of every binary you run? No, it does not. That's not being pedantic. | Nov 15 06:52 |
| schestowitz | I'm not looking for a fight with you, but | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | [06:48] <mjg59> oiaohm: The article is incorrect | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | That's a blanket statement | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | assuming what you asserted is true | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | and what you cited is NOT "incorrect" (double negation) | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | you cannot just write off the original article entirely | Nov 15 06:53 |
| schestowitz | that would be unfair | Nov 15 06:53 |
| mjg59 | The original article makes several claims. Some are accurate, some are inaccurate. | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | and that would be characteristic is "concern trolling" of sorts | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | that term isn't apt | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | "concern trolling" | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | but I noticed this pattern | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/ | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/ | Nov 15 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Spot Diversion Tactics (Excuses and Distractions From Articles Not Convenient to the Reader) | Techrights | Nov 15 06:54 | |
| schestowitz | it's partly covered here | Nov 15 06:54 |
| mjg59 | I pointed to an article that contains what are, as far as I can tell, only accurate claims | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | and it's why I carefully reread (second time) what I post | Nov 15 06:54 |
| schestowitz | some people might even use a typo as an excuse to discredit the message | Nov 15 06:55 |
| mjg59 | And which gives the reader the information they need to verify the claims | Nov 15 06:55 |
| schestowitz | "oh, look, he spelled that name not correctly, ignore entire article!" | Nov 15 06:55 |
| schestowitz | [06:48] <mjg59> oiaohm: The article is incorrect | Nov 15 06:55 |
| schestowitz | Better say: | Nov 15 06:55 |
| schestowitz | the article is correct, except part xyz | Nov 15 06:55 |
| schestowitz | where it's not entirely false, just inaccurate | Nov 15 06:56 |
| schestowitz | some guessing is needed sometimes | Nov 15 06:56 |
| schestowitz | the companies don't give away their dark secrets | Nov 15 06:56 |
| mjg59 | In this case it's actually extremely straight forward to determine what's being sent | Nov 15 06:56 |
| schestowitz | unless you do "parrot journalism" | Nov 15 06:56 |
| oiaohm | The system is still setup to send signatures based on developer key on all applications for yes/no approval that if this hardens more this will make it tricker to run third party installed applications. | Nov 15 06:56 |
| schestowitz | you sometimes need to approximate | Nov 15 06:56 |
| mjg59 | It's RFC 6960 | Nov 15 06:56 |
| schestowitz | anyway, time-wasting | Nov 15 06:57 |
| mjg59 | oiaohm: You already can't run unsigned applications on MacOS without a lot of effort | Nov 15 06:57 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Nov 15 06:57 |
| mjg59 | *This* isn't the problem there | Nov 15 06:57 |
| schestowitz | it is too | Nov 15 06:57 |
| mjg59 | It's that Apple have created an entirely locked down ecosystem | Nov 15 06:57 |
| kingoffrance | muddying the waters maybe schestowitz | Nov 15 06:57 |
| mjg59 | The OCSP verification does nothing to prevent unsigned applications from being run | Nov 15 06:58 |
| mjg59 | Because the entire signing framework has already blocked them unless the user does multiple non-obvious things | Nov 15 06:59 |
| kingoffrance | also forest for trees, or spirit versus letter etc. | Nov 15 06:59 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 15 07:00 |
| mjg59 | If Apple disabled this entire feature you'd still have the same level of difficulty in running unsigned software and Apple would still find it just as easy to block unsigned software | Nov 15 07:00 |
| schestowitz | I stopped responding | Nov 15 07:00 |
| kingoffrance | yeah sorry missed the bbl at first, didnt mean to ping you | Nov 15 07:01 |
| kingoffrance | tunnel vision too | Nov 15 07:03 |
| schestowitz | it's easy to refute | Nov 15 07:04 |
| schestowitz | but pointless | Nov 15 07:04 |
| schestowitz | he's not here to be convinced | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | and there are better aspects to discuss | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | either way, nice to see a poster giving credit to RMS and Cory Doctorow | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | we know Apple will be these things more oppressive over time | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | (as Apple does) | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | and more companies may follow suit | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | once it's considered "normal" | Nov 15 07:05 |
| schestowitz | iOS is spreading to general-purpose desktops/laptops the restrictions of so-called phones | Nov 15 07:06 |
| schestowitz | I don't know who this Jeff is | Nov 15 07:06 |
| schestowitz | but he seems to 'get' it | Nov 15 07:06 |
| schestowitz | and his post went 'viral' | Nov 15 07:06 |
| schestowitz | highlight concerns that can help us in the free software community | Nov 15 07:06 |
| schestowitz | not only among geeks but the general public that experiences woes-ome restrictions | Nov 15 07:07 |
| schestowitz | *woe-some | Nov 15 07:07 |
| schestowitz | I think Apple 'helps' us | Nov 15 07:07 |
| schestowitz | in the sense that it shows how oppressive computers can get, not just expensive | Nov 15 07:07 |
| schestowitz | and it brings more people to our fold | Nov 15 07:07 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > https://apnews.com/article/sound-beaming-noveto-no-headphones-38327ae5fe116080a5eaf2374eb0f5c8 | Nov 15 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apnews.com | New device puts music in your head โ no headphones required | Nov 15 07:08 | |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > <https://apnews.com/article/sound-beaming-noveto-no-headphones-38327ae5fe116080a5eaf2374eb0f5c8> | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > Noveto expects the device will have plenty of practical uses, from | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > allowing office workers to listen to music or conference calls without | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > interrupting colleagues to letting someone play a game, movie or music | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > without disturbing their significant others. | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > The lack of headphones means itโs possible to hear other sounds in the | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > room clearly. | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > The technology uses a 3-D sensing module and locates and tracks the ear | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > position sending audio via ultrasonic waves to create sound pockets by | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > the userโs ears. Sound can be heard in stereo or a spatial 3-D mode that | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | [06:27] <schestowitz> > creates 360 degree sound around the listener, the company said. | Nov 15 07:08 |
| schestowitz | yay! INNOVA~1 | Nov 15 07:08 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://hackaday.com/2019/02/14/creating-coherent-sound-beams-easily/ The ultrasound bit you can do as diy hardware. | Nov 15 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Creating Coherent Sound Beams, Easily | Hackaday | Nov 15 07:58 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the special bit in those noveto headphones is the targeting. | Nov 15 07:58 |
| schestowitz | iophk: "The US Senate race for Georgia is still up in the air. The best Biden can do is a tie. If he fails to secure both seats, he will have a minority in th US Senate and Moscow Mitch can obstruct more or less every last effort. We won't know until January and until then there will be a real battle using massive amounts of both disinformation and money." https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/georgia-senate-warnock-ossoff/ | Nov 15 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Joe Bidenโs Presidency Depends on Georgia | The Nation | Nov 15 07:59 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I have done up ultrasound to give 5.1 in a room with all the speakers at the front of the room. Yes focused beam to the back of room. | Nov 15 07:59 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: one reason you don't see as many projects self-hosting any more is because they've fallen for the various marketing myths made by the centralisation efforts of GAFAM | Nov 15 08:09 |
| schestowitz | clown computing | Nov 15 08:10 |
| schestowitz | it's "the future" | Nov 15 08:10 |
| schestowitz | back to mainframes and stuff | Nov 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | because it's "cool" | Nov 15 08:11 |
| schestowitz | and all the "smart" CTOs/CIOs "do it" | Nov 15 08:11 |
| vZS1 | But let them do their marketing. We're being the change we want to see in the world. (: | Nov 15 08:17 |
| schestowitz | many have remorse | Nov 15 08:18 |
| schestowitz | seeing how things change in situ | Nov 15 08:18 |
| schestowitz | things they don't like | Nov 15 08:18 |
| schestowitz | and cannot reject | Nov 15 08:18 |
| schestowitz | like "new versions" | Nov 15 08:18 |
| vZS1 | If people want to, they can always migrate. The issue is more a refusal to do the work and spend the resources | Nov 15 08:19 |
| vZS1 | And, often. A lack of courage to make the shift | Nov 15 08:19 |
| schestowitz | or to learn | Nov 15 08:20 |
| vZS1 | That as well | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | a lot boils down to "oursourcing' | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | to the "big boys" | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | "we don't worry about that... until later" | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | like a data breach | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | or service shutdown | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | which we oppose and can do nothing about | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Google is about to shut down some more things | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | not just because of the pandemic | Nov 15 08:20 |
| schestowitz | emails were circulated about it days ago | Nov 15 08:21 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to even keep track.. hundreds of shut down "Services" already | Nov 15 08:21 |
| vZS1 | The main thing is all the various types of resource debt traps they fall into: technical, infra, skills, knowledge, design, etc. | Nov 15 08:21 |
| schestowitz | because they cannot figure out how to make them profitable | Nov 15 08:21 |
| schestowitz | they believe it's "low risk" to outsource | Nov 15 08:22 |
| schestowitz | because the other party knows how to maintain X | Nov 15 08:22 |
| vZS1 | But developers typically don't have the strategic foresight to evaluate those things | Nov 15 08:22 |
| schestowitz | but that other party can shut down X contrary to your interest | Nov 15 08:22 |
| schestowitz | it's cheaper in the short term to oursource | Nov 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz | and worry about the rest later | Nov 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz | provisioning and learning takes time | Nov 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz | many news sites perished | Nov 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz | because of reliance of unmaintained things | Nov 15 08:23 |
| schestowitz | so they went offline | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | old CMSs | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | that no longer support X version Y | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | or some outside parties that went bankrupt | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | making them too expensive to keep online | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw became "too expensive" I suppose | Nov 15 08:24 |
| schestowitz | for the volunteer efforts to keep it repaired and going | Nov 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz | so they became static pages | Nov 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz | then altogether dead | Nov 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz | broken, essentially offline | Nov 15 08:25 |
| schestowitz | 7 years later just a fossil site in IA | Nov 15 08:25 |
| vZS1 | I know projects that serve billions of requests that run on very low powered hardware. | Nov 15 08:25 |
| vZS1 | I have worked on a few myself | Nov 15 08:25 |
| vZS1 | Just a tiny cabinet in the basement with broadband | Nov 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw was done by a relatively old lady | Nov 15 08:26 |
| vZS1 | People think clown computing is cheap until they start to see the bills | Nov 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz | and it's not helping when the sole person who cares most about the work is | Nov 15 08:26 |
| scientes | vZS1, static pages are like that | Nov 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz | 1) non-technical | Nov 15 08:26 |
| scientes | but you still need bandwidth | Nov 15 08:26 |
| schestowitz | 2) too old to care or to stick around to keep the work available | Nov 15 08:27 |
| scientes | and that means avoiding the evil over-priced players like amazon | Nov 15 08:27 |
| scientes | scaleway still offers unlimited bandwidth, although their prices went up | Nov 15 08:27 |
| vZS1 | For groklaw, that could honestly run on an old laptop with WordPress | Nov 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz | [08:26] <vZS1> People think clown computing is cheap until they start to see the bills | Nov 15 08:27 |
| scientes | wordpress is horrible | Nov 15 08:27 |
| vZS1 | Perfectly adequate | Nov 15 08:27 |
| scientes | and is constantly hacked | Nov 15 08:27 |
| schestowitz | as much as one or more people's annual salary | Nov 15 08:27 |
| vZS1 | With broadband | Nov 15 08:28 |
| scientes | just use a static page | Nov 15 08:28 |
| scientes | smart people use static web sites | Nov 15 08:28 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there are a lot of ways of self hosting static and not having bandwidth trouble if you are willing todo deals with devils like cloudflare. | Nov 15 08:28 |
| scientes | no, CDNs are evil | Nov 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz | scientes: if those sites are archived, barely changed anymore | Nov 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz | BTW, Linux Counter is dead | Nov 15 08:28 |
| scientes | if you site is static the internet should cache it | Nov 15 08:28 |
| schestowitz | days ago I noticed it had just been hijacked (their domain) | Nov 15 08:28 |
| scientes | it is the internet's fault that caching is not a thing | Nov 15 08:29 |
| schestowitz | by some German site | Nov 15 08:29 |
| scientes | cause the http protocol works fine with caching | Nov 15 08:29 |
| vZS1 | One big issue is developers today don't know anything about hardware | Nov 15 08:29 |
| scientes | decelopers today don't know anything about anything | Nov 15 08:29 |
| schestowitz | there's vested interest in keeping sites hard to maintain | Nov 15 08:29 |
| scientes | if you ask me | Nov 15 08:29 |
| schestowitz | it helps the monopolies | Nov 15 08:29 |
| scientes | ^^^^^^^ | Nov 15 08:29 |
| scientes | vested interests | Nov 15 08:29 |
| schestowitz | even for static sites they need to do cert renewal | Nov 15 08:30 |
| scientes | that's why the web cant cache | Nov 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | and must let every one expire after x months | Nov 15 08:30 |
| scientes | because if the web could cache there would be no need for YouTube | Nov 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | so if you add no new stories at all, you still spend many hours keeping track of certs and stuff, hardware upgrades, new versions of frameworks that are not compatible with old stuff | Nov 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | so you hire engineers | Nov 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | unless you are one | Nov 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | and spend thousands dollars | Nov 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | just to keep OLD stuff online | Nov 15 08:31 |
| scientes | schestowitz, agreed they keep it difficult | Nov 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | fossil stuff that fewer and fewer people have an interest in... over time | Nov 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | so you go offline eventually... the cost outweighs the benefit | Nov 15 08:31 |
| scientes | there is VERY little available on the internet | Nov 15 08:31 |
| scientes | most stuff never even got onto the internet | Nov 15 08:31 |
| scientes | you have to go to libraries | Nov 15 08:31 |
| vZS1 | Hardware is becoming cheaper | Nov 15 08:31 |
| scientes | vZS1, but less and less is available | Nov 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't last forever | Nov 15 08:32 |
| vZS1 | It's becoming easier to self-host | Nov 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | and cheap hardware is RAIDed | Nov 15 08:32 |
| scientes | vZS1, not really | Nov 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | go teach people hwo to back up and use puppet etc. | Nov 15 08:32 |
| scientes | vZS1, the situation is basically the same it was 10 years ago | Nov 15 08:32 |
| scientes | the only that changed is letsencrypt | Nov 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | now their "big browsers" "SHAME" sites without certs | Nov 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | and derank them | Nov 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | even if there's no login form or anything | Nov 15 08:33 |
| scientes | schestowitz, that is a google take-over thing | Nov 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | mozilla helps them | Nov 15 08:33 |
| vZS1 | This is the thing. Stop worrying about search engines | Nov 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft also (I think) | Nov 15 08:33 |
| vZS1 | Build real community | Nov 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Apple... not sure, never tried | Nov 15 08:33 |
| scientes | end-to-end encryption is used to solidify the "platform" | Nov 15 08:33 |
| vZS1 | People who actually share your things with people they know | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | and then they tell you it is for your benifit (privacy) | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | but you have no fucking privacy | Nov 15 08:34 |
| vZS1 | And interact with you | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | I am so tired of companies lying that they care about privacy | Nov 15 08:34 |
| vZS1 | In the long run, that's healthier for a project | Nov 15 08:34 |
| schestowitz | nope, they harvest your data, then sell it | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | Apple is the worst | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | they lie, and then they lie, and then they lie | Nov 15 08:34 |
| schestowitz | "Apple iPhone is privacy" | Nov 15 08:34 |
| schestowitz | the billboard here tell me | Nov 15 08:34 |
| scientes | and "privacy" is the reason you can't use the web without encryption | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | news sites | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | https | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | but | Nov 15 08:35 |
| vZS1 | Building real community is how to keep a project alive | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | 30 trackers | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | over https | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | and your data sold | Nov 15 08:35 |
| scientes | ^^^^^ | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | now, "THAT'S Privacy" --Aple | Nov 15 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Apple | Nov 15 08:36 |
| scientes | and yet they say it for your PRIVACY | Nov 15 08:36 |
| scientes | and that is why you can't have http | Nov 15 08:36 |
| scientes | and dns-over-https | Nov 15 08:36 |
| vZS1 | Don't fall for the marketing gimmicks | Nov 15 08:36 |
| vZS1 | SEO won't help you | Nov 15 08:36 |
| schestowitz | SEO=quacks | Nov 15 08:36 |
| schestowitz | the neo-era witchcraft | Nov 15 08:36 |
| schestowitz | and snakeoil | Nov 15 08:37 |
| vZS1 | "Discoverability" won't help you | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | RSS helps | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | search >can< help | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | in some contextx | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | we use search a lot to find stories for tuxmachines, but mostly RSS feeds | Nov 15 08:37 |
| vZS1 | RSS is good but even then, it's limited. | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | some feeds are in aggregation sites and in directories | Nov 15 08:37 |
| schestowitz | so they still need to be "discovered" somehow | Nov 15 08:37 |
| vZS1 | What's more important is being devoted to your product and audience | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | just being "on the Web" does not even guarantee a search engines will "see" you and then "list" you | Nov 15 08:38 |
| scientes | schestowitz, firefox for android (non-beta) does not have about:config | Nov 15 08:38 |
| vZS1 | And having high quality standards | Nov 15 08:38 |
| vZS1 | And having patience | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | not always enough | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | I know many great bogs | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | blogs | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | that almost nobody knows abour or read | Nov 15 08:38 |
| schestowitz | and that lack of audience kills them | Nov 15 08:38 |
| vZS1 | They need to work on distribution | Nov 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz | as they stop bothering to spend loads of time researching stories | Nov 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz | it's a chicken-egg thing | Nov 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz | for some stories you can spent a whole day... if you are guaranteed some level or readership | Nov 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz | otherwise, sites will perish | Nov 15 08:39 |
| schestowitz | quality down -> no audience- > offline | Nov 15 08:39 |
| vZS1 | You need to know how to funnel people to see your stuff in a way that's sustainable | Nov 15 08:40 |
| vZS1 | That takes time | Nov 15 08:40 |
| schestowitz | true | Nov 15 08:40 |
| vZS1 | And is just as important, strategically, as the product you offer | Nov 15 08:41 |
| vZS1 | If you don't have both, you will flop | Nov 15 08:41 |
| schestowitz | we can afford it thanks to hardware made available to us by suppoortive geeks | Nov 15 08:41 |
| schestowitz | in tech this is possible | Nov 15 08:41 |
| schestowitz | not in other domains | Nov 15 08:41 |
| vZS1 | Yep | Nov 15 08:41 |
| schestowitz | say... | Nov 15 08:41 |
| schestowitz | you have a nutrition suite | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | your reader may not be geeks | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | so you end up paying AWS $1000 a month | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | for hosting | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | at bezos' mercy | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | unless you're lmmrcola or something... | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | mercola | Nov 15 08:42 |
| vZS1 | I don't think that's true though. There are many hosted alternatives | Nov 15 08:42 |
| schestowitz | you will have to work hard just to pay the bills | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | no time to run the site | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: they don't know of these | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | they use the clown | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | and overpay | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | it's over=provisioned | Nov 15 08:43 |
| schestowitz | it's over-provisioned | Nov 15 08:43 |
| vZS1 | There are companies tripping over each other to provide e-commerce solutions and hosted WordPress | Nov 15 08:44 |
| vZS1 | I'm doing some writing on this on the future, actually. For people that aren't techy | Nov 15 08:44 |
| schestowitz | they're not cheap | Nov 15 08:44 |
| schestowitz | if you need dedicated | Nov 15 08:44 |
| vZS1 | There are cheap ones | Nov 15 08:44 |
| schestowitz | I inquired 2 years ago | Nov 15 08:44 |
| schestowitz | would cost 10k quid for 3 years | Nov 15 08:44 |
| scientes | "e-commerce solutions" | Nov 15 08:45 |
| vZS1 | I don't know where you're looking | Nov 15 08:45 |
| vZS1 | But that's ridiculous | Nov 15 08:45 |
| schestowitz | I checked US and UK | Nov 15 08:45 |
| schestowitz | for dedicated | Nov 15 08:45 |
| schestowitz | they offer that as "managed service | Nov 15 08:45 |
| scientes | and WordPress is horrible | Nov 15 08:45 |
| schestowitz | to upsell | Nov 15 08:45 |
| scientes | all the pressure is to "platforms" | Nov 15 08:46 |
| scientes | both on web and android | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | only solace I get is, | Nov 15 08:46 |
| scientes | which only raises the costs to 'NON'-players | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | all this mess, | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | wordpress, clown... | Nov 15 08:46 |
| vZS1 | You can get a dedicated wordpress solution for as little as ยฃ10/month. There are e-commerce solutions like Etsy that offer affordable solutions as well. | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | it means many sites that 'compete' will perish | Nov 15 08:46 |
| scientes | its all about walled-garden delusions | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | they make bad choices | Nov 15 08:46 |
| scientes | instead of producing value | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | without proper consulation | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | only "SEO" advice | Nov 15 08:46 |
| schestowitz | and some hipsters with "clown" heads | Nov 15 08:47 |
| scientes | vZS1, whenever uses that word "solution" I run the other direction | Nov 15 08:47 |
| vZS1 | That's the thing. Education is needed. And it's on the way. | Nov 15 08:47 |
| scientes | <---- "solution" Me --->>>> | Nov 15 08:47 |
| schestowitz | "solution" = sausage factory | Nov 15 08:47 |
| schestowitz | I said that on the TV 11 years ago | Nov 15 08:47 |
| schestowitz | that's how Novell sold its proprietary crap | Nov 15 08:47 |
| vZS1 | I've been consulting many independent creators like artists and craftspeople. | Nov 15 08:47 |
| scientes | SAP | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | it obscures what they offer/sell | Nov 15 08:48 |
| vZS1 | Getting a good idea of where they lack education | Nov 15 08:48 |
| scientes | SAP is the only company that managed to convince people a "in-memory database" is a thing | Nov 15 08:48 |
| scientes | people that have not taken a single computer science class | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | many of those classes are bad | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | esp. nowadays | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | scientes: recently, for work, | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | we did an LF course | Nov 15 08:48 |
| schestowitz | "101" | Nov 15 08:48 |
| scientes | of course they are, but you can get a decent one on Coursera | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | a lot of the terms changed | Nov 15 08:49 |
| scientes | the stanford one | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | buzzwords and laughable abstractions | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | they don't even teach people basics like network stacks, memory, cpu | Nov 15 08:49 |
| vZS1 | Anyway. I'll be working away on all this. Someone needs to do it. | Nov 15 08:49 |
| scientes | but seriously...."in-memory database" | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | many are taught "AWS" | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | i.e. a GUI | Nov 15 08:49 |
| schestowitz | which changes all the time | Nov 15 08:49 |
| scientes | how stupid do they think we are? | Nov 15 08:49 |
| vZS1 | I've put on my earmuffs to all the negativity | Nov 15 08:49 |
| vZS1 | I'm putting TR on IPFS. That's just one of many things I'm doing. | Nov 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Nov 15 08:50 |
| scientes | oh wow coursera got alot woorse | Nov 15 08:50 |
| vZS1 | Yw | Nov 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | yesterday the scripts worked perfectly | Nov 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | I double-checked | Nov 15 08:50 |
| scientes | it got infected by all the for-profit university non-sense | Nov 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | soon I will stop manual checks | Nov 15 08:50 |
| vZS1 | I've updated the scripts | Nov 15 08:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe if for 1 weeks I spot no issues | Nov 15 08:51 |
| vZS1 | I'll log in today and set up the new stuff | Nov 15 08:51 |
| schestowitz | then I'll chain together the scripts, not having to check manually after each step | Nov 15 08:51 |
| vZS1 | I'm just about to check if my new cron setup is working | Nov 15 08:51 |
| vZS1 | The one where I implemented logging | Nov 15 08:51 |
| schestowitz | today we will post about half a dozen articles about EPO, with internal documents in them | Nov 15 08:51 |
| scientes | oh god coursera is evil | Nov 15 08:52 |
| scientes | you can't even link to their web-site | Nov 15 08:52 |
| scientes | that is what I hate most about HTML-gay | Nov 15 08:52 |
| scientes | Version Gay | Nov 15 08:52 |
| schestowitz | today I tried linking to an image | Nov 15 08:52 |
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| schestowitz | HotLink "protection" | Nov 15 08:52 |
| schestowitz | they literally block a request for an image from their servers | Nov 15 08:52 |
| schestowitz | very few sites still do that | Nov 15 08:53 |
| vZS1 | Yep | Nov 15 08:53 |
| schestowitz | when I used cpanel in 2003 I saw that as an option | Nov 15 08:53 |
| scientes | schestowitz, not as bad as lazy-loading images on blogs | Nov 15 08:53 |
| scientes | that waste your time | Nov 15 08:53 |
| schestowitz | they 'save bandwidth' where it actually hurts their site | Nov 15 08:53 |
| schestowitz | like people who link to them\ | Nov 15 08:53 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and the only reason they do that is because Amazon over-charges them for bandwidth, and then concinces them they are getting a good price | Nov 15 08:53 |
| schestowitz | aha | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | well, eventually I grabbed an image from wikipedia | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | and linked to that insted | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | it would be better if I could use the site's own feature image | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | but cannot hotlink | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | this is self-harming | Nov 15 08:54 |
| scientes | all those "cloud" services are 95% marketing | Nov 15 08:54 |
| schestowitz | targeting clown CIOs | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | lawyers do the same | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | "let us worry about it for you" | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | just pay us 10 grand | Nov 15 08:55 |
| scientes | schestowitz, it is also because people are using windows, so Amazon sells Linux and pretends it is them | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | and "peace of mind" | Nov 15 08:55 |
| scientes | and people go WOW, I can do so much! | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | that's "clown computing" pattern of marketing | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | we offer "SO-lu-hen" | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | "shen | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | and let's talk about billing later | Nov 15 08:55 |
| schestowitz | when you exceed the introductory ties | Nov 15 08:56 |
| scientes | they also force you to have open-ended credit card liability | Nov 15 08:56 |
| scientes | all the "cloud" services do that | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | then we can facilitate installment payments ;-) | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | "credit' | Nov 15 08:56 |
| scientes | they act like drug-dealers | Nov 15 08:56 |
| scientes | ...hehe, when do you get your pay check? | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | aha | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | when people are making ends meet | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | barely | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | been there | Nov 15 08:56 |
| schestowitz | someone who lived with me a few weeks | Nov 15 08:57 |
| scientes | land-lords do the same thing | Nov 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | and avoided paying her share of rent | Nov 15 08:57 |
| scientes | I've been to London, it is the same homeless problem as the US | Nov 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | London is expensive | Nov 15 08:57 |
| scientes | and the politicians are responsible for the problem | Nov 15 08:57 |
| schestowitz | but in LA I heard they have 50,000 homeless | Nov 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | nothing near to that here | Nov 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | like communes of trailer parks and tents | Nov 15 08:58 |
| scientes | yeah, but I saw it---I was in PERU and they don't have that problem | Nov 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | it'll get worse under Biden | Nov 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Trump is golfing while COVID spreads like fire | Nov 15 08:58 |
| scientes | lots of beggers, few homeless | Nov 15 08:58 |
| schestowitz | necessitating urgent lockdown | Nov 15 08:58 |
| scientes | the politicians never cut the fat of the parasites | Nov 15 08:58 |
| scientes | like the land-lords | Nov 15 08:59 |
| scientes | because they are the parasites | Nov 15 08:59 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: the logging works. (: | Nov 15 09:01 |
| scientes | California actually had a initiative to allow governments to set maximum rent | Nov 15 09:01 |
| scientes | and cool the bubble | Nov 15 09:01 |
| scientes | which would have collapsed in 2008 had the banks not been nationalized | Nov 15 09:01 |
| vZS1 | I'll log into the Pi later today to set everything up | Nov 15 09:04 |
| vZS1 | Will ping you when I'm done | Nov 15 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz | I made a full backup of the accoung yesterday | Nov 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz | pi>laptop>external HDD overnight | Nov 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz | 4TB drive | Nov 15 09:07 |
| schestowitz | in case the naked ip devices gets fried or something | Nov 15 09:08 |
| vZS1 | That's a lot of storage | Nov 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz | I need to do soldering on it | Nov 15 09:08 |
| schestowitz | when we end lockdown | Nov 15 09:08 |
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| schestowitz | lots of assembly still required, I was sent extensions for it | Nov 15 09:08 |
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| vZS1 | Do you have the backup on a cron job? | Nov 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 15 09:09 |
| vZS1 | Ah okay | Nov 15 09:09 |
| schestowitz | I would need to put private keys | Nov 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz | and you have access to that account to | Nov 15 09:10 |
| schestowitz | *too | Nov 15 09:10 |
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| vZS1 | I have a few systems that I manually back up as well. Semi-manual. I've written scripts for them but I just execute the scripts manually | Nov 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Finishing work now..., 9am was working since 1am | Nov 15 09:11 |
| schestowitz | ok, free now | Nov 15 09:19 |
| schestowitz | I'll do articles in a bit | Nov 15 09:19 |
| schestowitz | while posting political things read in-between | Nov 15 09:19 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: here's the thing | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | I have 4 steps now | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | 1. generate IRC logs after midnight | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | those come from the local laptop | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | 2. then, generate the text bulletins | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | it uses curl+wget | Nov 15 09:20 |
| schestowitz | and must be run when server load is low, to avoid missing articles | Nov 15 09:21 |
| schestowitz | 3. add 5 new objects to IPFS from raspi | Nov 15 09:21 |
| schestowitz | 4. update html and text index for IPFS@techrights | Nov 15 09:22 |
| schestowitz | I can chain together 1 and 2, 3 and 4 | Nov 15 09:22 |
| schestowitz | but not all 4 as they're run from different machines | Nov 15 09:22 |
| schestowitz | and if any of the steps fails, the ones that follow will do something wrong/incomplete | Nov 15 09:22 |
| schestowitz | so I might make that more verbose in the command line, to highlight issue if they occur | Nov 15 09:22 |
| schestowitz | *issues | Nov 15 09:23 |
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| schestowitz | Pfizer CEO Dumped $5.6 Million in Stock on Day of Encouraging #Vaccine News https://truthout.org/articles/pfizer-ceo-dumped-5-6-million-in-stock-on-day-of-encouraging-vaccine-news/ โPfizer , for example, spent $139bn (ยฃ112bn) on share buybacks.โ http://techrights.org/2019/10/14/the-stupidest-policy-ever/ | Nov 15 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Pfizer CEO Dumped $5.6 Million in Stock on Day of Encouraging Vaccine News | Nov 15 09:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | โThe Stupidest [Patent/Tax] Policy Everโ | Techrights | Nov 15 09:39 | |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I'm making a new git repo in my account that does the ipfs updating automatically. | Nov 15 10:54 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: some how I am not supprised. Australia has currently 6 different possible suppliers of a Vaccine. Soon we should be hitting 7 days without any detectable community spread. | Nov 15 11:24 |
| oiaohm | Just because you have a encouraging vaccine does not mean you will not have insane competition pushing the price down if it works. | Nov 15 11:25 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I've set up the automation in a Git repo called ipfs_bot | Nov 15 11:27 |
| vZS1 | It's in my home directory | Nov 15 11:27 |
| vZS1 | There's a cron job running as well. | Nov 15 11:27 |
| vZS1 | Everything will be logged in /var/log/syslog | Nov 15 11:28 |
| vZS1 | Individual scripts start with their own TRACE_ID (which is just sha256 sum of a timestamp) | Nov 15 11:29 |
| vZS1 | Logging for individual scripts* | Nov 15 11:29 |
| vZS1 | So you can just grep for the TRACE_ID to find log lines that are related. | Nov 15 11:30 |
| vZS1 | I've set up the cron job to run hourly. Don't change anything in that repo | Nov 15 11:31 |
| vZS1 | I'll monitor it for a day or two to make sure everything is working projekt | Nov 15 11:31 |
| vZS1 | s/projekt/properly | Nov 15 11:32 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: you don't need to worry about pinning stuff anymore. That repo and cron job will take care of it for you. Just push updates to techrights.org/ipfs/txt, and the rest will take care of itself. | Nov 15 11:35 |
| oiaohm | https://people.com/home/ring-recalls-350000-doorbells-caught-fire/ Not just a security threat. | Nov 15 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ring Recalls Over 350K Doorbells After Some Catch Fire | PEOPLE.com | Nov 15 12:38 | |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 15 12:45 |
| MinceR | the bmw of doorbells | Nov 15 12:46 |
| MinceR | or the iphone of doorbells | Nov 15 12:46 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: excellent! | Nov 15 12:59 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I don't have privs to check /var/log/syslog but you should be able to handle things from here. | Nov 15 13:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Ring doorbells are for people who are paranoid. | Nov 15 15:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just get an insurance policy. They don't have to be really expensive. | Nov 15 15:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even with cameras everywhere, the Chicago Police don't actually solve many break ins. | Nov 15 15:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't work the cases, but the cameras can spy on you and that's not good. | Nov 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | at least the smart fire alarm might work | Nov 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | does that too catch on fire? | Nov 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | oh, here: | Nov 15 15:17 |
| schestowitz | it a smart fire alarm catches on fire | Nov 15 15:18 |
| schestowitz | does it detect itself? | Nov 15 15:18 |
| schestowitz | and, does it still work well enough to detect ITSELF being on fire? | Nov 15 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Let that sink in... and then sink the fire alarm i water | Nov 15 15:18 |
| schestowitz | ^ too many typos | Nov 15 15:19 |
| schestowitz | but many still possible to folow | Nov 15 15:19 |
| schestowitz | *llow | Nov 15 15:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I said something about Ring on Facebook and that was part of the delusional rant about how I supposedly wanted their dog to bite me, from the in-laws. | Nov 15 17:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They acted like I was some kind of chiseler who was casing them for some sort of robbery or pratfall lawsuit. | Nov 15 17:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was very insulting. | Nov 15 17:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're just extremely paranoid. They have cameras in every room in their house even though there's really nothing a thief would want anywhere in sight. | Nov 15 17:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their furniture even looks like it came out of a thrift shop (like they bought junk and it has 10 years or more of wear on it). | Nov 15 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they feel like they need cameras everywhere. | Nov 15 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I made a remark to Maricel at one point. | Nov 15 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Oh nobody in Indiana has a security system. If someone breaks in you shoot them and there's not going to be a big investigation into whether the people who meant to do you harm were a victim or something.". | Nov 15 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She was talking about Indiana like only a bunch of rubes would live there. | Nov 15 17:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, Ring doorbells don't deter crime at all, but if you know you'll be shot....Let's jsut say there's not too many break ins where I'm from.". | Nov 15 17:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's one thing where the Republicans are absolutely right. Shoot them and they'll never hurt anyone again. | Nov 15 17:10 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m] agrees with republicans only when it's something ultra violent or evil | Nov 15 17:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the Democrats spent half as much time trying to solve crime as they do coming up with justifications for why those black people saw fit to take your car at gunpoint, we'd all be a lot better off. | Nov 15 17:11 |
| CrystalMath | just like every other US democrat :P | Nov 15 17:11 |
| CrystalMath | the part of america that i hate is DaemonFC[m] and people like DaemonFC[m] | Nov 15 17:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I'm widely hated by both sides just because I don't fall in line on every single policy position. | Nov 15 17:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say that economically, I'm fairly progressive, and socially I lean towards Libertarianism. | Nov 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think those indoor smoking ban laws are fine, because if you want to go do something stupid, great. 20 feet from the door. Because that's the point where it's affecting you and not everyone else. | Nov 15 17:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I voted for Bernie Sanders twice in the Democratic primary. | Nov 15 17:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I never supported Trump at all. Ever. | Nov 15 17:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know what's wrong with black people? Well, plenty, but you want to know what's really wrong with them? | Nov 15 17:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They supported right-wing Democrats who called them Super Predators and said throw away the key or just blast them with a shotgun. | Nov 15 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of the guy who would have given them pretty much everything they could ever want. | Nov 15 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump went right for the throat with that, both times. You know that, right? | Nov 15 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He played the Clinton Super Predator clip over and over. | Nov 15 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He called out Biden for the Crime Bill and a bunch else. | Nov 15 17:16 |
| CrystalMath | i believe in individualism (economic and social) but i'm not a racist at all | Nov 15 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | i think black people are the same inside as white people, or asians | Nov 15 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | i think we're all the same inside | Nov 15 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | except we're also full of differences in thinking | Nov 15 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | but these are individual differences | Nov 15 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | it's not possible to group them really | Nov 15 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: In the US there's this cultural weirdness. But DaemonFC[m] appealing to that is annoying. | Nov 15 17:18 |
| CrystalMath | especially not tie them with physical features | Nov 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but they just vote for the people who did the really fucked up shit that made a complete mess. | Nov 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then because they did that, I ended up voting for Biden because it was that or Donald Trump. | Nov 15 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The media was looking for justification for picking Biden. They said Sanders would have been down a couple points vs Biden in Michigan and Wisconsin. We'll never know if that's true or not. | Nov 15 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Sanders did a lot better in other states, like Ohio and Iowa. | Nov 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he may well have won everything Biden did and then some. | Nov 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody ever brings up that possibility. | Nov 15 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | Primaries are not a democratic procedure anyway. | Nov 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No they're not. | Nov 15 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And what went down in Illinois was just fucked up in so many ways. | Nov 15 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The "STAY IN YOUR HOUSE" "Oh, we'll have a primary, in-person, right this very minute." primary was a complete scam. | Nov 15 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only good part about that is that it seems it may have been the end of Dan Lipinski in Congress. | Nov 15 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Marie Newman won IL-3, and she was endorsed by Sanders and Richard Stallman. | Nov 15 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state didn't put voting booths in nursing homes for obvious reasons. | Nov 15 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So all of those old fucks who kept around that damned DINO were caught off guard and many didn't end up voting. | Nov 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that's what it took to get rid of him. | Nov 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The media is fixated on the Democrats losing a net of 5 House seats. | Nov 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'd say it's effectively more like 4 because Lipinski was voting with the Republicans most of the time from a strongly Democratic district. | Nov 15 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's just no reason to entertain that. The Republicans are very good at whipping their party into voting together. | Nov 15 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And in a close vote, having someone like Lipinski lingering might cost us something. | Nov 15 17:24 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: good job on the EPO coverage. I just read the latest RSS item. | Nov 15 18:17 |
| schestowitz | cool | Nov 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | dozens more on the way | Nov 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe three to four dozen | Nov 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | do you want to help me proofread? | Nov 15 18:34 |
| schestowitz | the next/upcoming one? | Nov 15 18:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/11/15/epo-appeals-committee-and-malfunctioning-of-the-epo-apc/ | Nov 15 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representatives Explain Why the Appeals Committee is Flawed and Transparency is Lacking | Techrights | Nov 15 18:43 | |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: busy with the fam atm | Nov 15 19:49 |
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| aindilis | well I managed to get that information extraction pipeline working, to resolve names to entries in a knowledge base, and extract relations and events they are part of. | Nov 15 20:29 |
| aindilis | it took 2 days + > 30GB to install | Nov 15 20:29 |
| aindilis | I will post some sample output here | Nov 15 20:29 |
| aindilis | This is it run on the wikipedia page for the movie Aladdin 2019: https://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/en_full.cs | Nov 15 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Nov 15 20:31 | |
| aindilis | we're doing an informal counter-propaganda project (and this is one tool we're looking into) if anyone is interested in joining up | Nov 15 20:32 |
| schestowitz | sounds interesting, was it not done before? | Nov 15 20:33 |
| aindilis | well I'm sure the US govt is doing it | Nov 15 20:33 |
| schestowitz | and calling it "hey hi" | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe palantir etc. | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | facebook also | Nov 15 20:34 |
| aindilis | yeah, those types | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | they do lots of social graphs and sell those | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft gets free, direct access | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | FB+Microsoft are a tie-up | Nov 15 20:34 |
| aindilis | (we're trying to monitor right-wing propaganda with it) | Nov 15 20:34 |
| aindilis | This is sort of the endgame: https://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/ComprehensiveTKBInCyc.pdf | Nov 15 20:34 |
| schestowitz | that assumes no pseudonyms and such | Nov 15 20:35 |
| schestowitz | unless you interpolate from "open source intel" | Nov 15 20:36 |
| schestowitz | like looking for aliases and names shares across the Web | Nov 15 20:36 |
| aindilis | (I've wanted to make a distributed intel-agency in a box for citizens) | Nov 15 20:36 |
| schestowitz | RecordedFutures | Nov 15 20:36 |
| aindilis | interesting | Nov 15 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorded_Future | Nov 15 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Recorded Future - Wikipedia | Nov 15 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | "The company received initial funding from Google and In-Q-Tel, as reported in a July 2010 introduction to Recorded Future published by Wired.[2] " | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | CIA and Google | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | as if it's the same | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | makes one wonder | Nov 15 20:38 |
| aindilis | no astonishment here | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | hi Google, hi CIA, thanks for the money | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | now let's go mine some IRC channels | Nov 15 20:38 |
| schestowitz | and bitbuckets | Nov 15 20:38 |
| aindilis | heh yeah | Nov 15 20:38 |
| aindilis | well I'll keep you posted on this project. I've been trying to get KBP/KBC going for forever (like at least 2008), I think I finally got a workable system going *today* | Nov 15 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 450 employees now | Nov 15 20:39 |
| schestowitz | sponsored by CIA and Google | Nov 15 20:39 |
| aindilis | I'm trying to democratize this stuff | Nov 15 20:40 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: http://current.workingdirectory.net/posts/2020/cacert/ | Nov 15 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-current.workingdirectory.net | Being your own Certificate Authority | Nov 15 20:51 | |
| vZS1 | Nice quick tutorial for beginners | Nov 15 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: chaining the scripts now | Nov 15 22:22 |
| vZS1 | Good stuff | Nov 15 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I will use sshpass now | Nov 15 22:47 |
| schestowitz | will test at midnight | Nov 15 22:52 |
| schestowitz | if everything at my local laptop can be done with one click only | Nov 15 22:52 |
| schestowitz | later will do the same on the pi-side | Nov 15 22:52 |
| schestowitz | one step at a time for now, to avoid complicating the debugging | Nov 15 22:52 |
| vZS1 | I'm asleep when you usually update the CID index | Nov 15 22:55 |
| vZS1 | But I'll check to make sure the setup I did today is working | Nov 15 22:55 |
| vZS1 | If you check syslog, you should see the hourly log entries from my bot | Nov 15 22:56 |
| schestowitz | idea: | Nov 15 22:56 |
| schestowitz | updates several times per day for index of text | Nov 15 22:56 |
| schestowitz | so they grow over time | Nov 15 22:56 |
| schestowitz | until 5am | Nov 15 22:56 |
| schestowitz | trouble is, some expect that to be for "yesterday" | Nov 15 22:57 |
| vZS1 | My bot checks the index hourly, so that shouldn't be an issue | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | though they can grow cumulatively | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | like | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | /txt being "past 24 hours" | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | now cid index | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/txt | Nov 15 22:57 |
| schestowitz | or... | Nov 15 23:00 |
| schestowitz | make that yesterday+so far today | Nov 15 23:00 |
| vZS1 | I wouldn't mess with the url | Nov 15 23:00 |
| schestowitz | like a sliding window | Nov 15 23:00 |
| vZS1 | It would break automation downstream | Nov 15 23:00 |
| vZS1 | If you want different indices, use a new URL | Nov 15 23:00 |
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| schestowitz | yeah, I guess that would complicate archiving | Nov 15 23:02 |
| schestowitz | let's see how many requests for it | Nov 15 23:02 |
| vZS1 | You get at least 24 from me every day | Nov 15 23:03 |
| vZS1 | Because my Pi requests hourly | Nov 15 23:03 |
| schestowitz | 16,660 the past week for ipfs | Nov 15 23:03 |
| schestowitz | 6,652 for /txt | Nov 15 23:04 |
| schestowitz | txt-archives 833 | Nov 15 23:04 |
| vZS1 | So 2380 per day, for IPFS CID index | Nov 15 23:05 |
| schestowitz | yes | Nov 15 23:05 |
| schestowitz | when did we start? | Nov 15 23:05 |
| vZS1 | A lot of that is probably scheduled bots like I have | Nov 15 23:05 |
| vZS1 | I don't remember | Nov 15 23:06 |
| vZS1 | Look at the oldest CID | Nov 15 23:06 |
| schestowitz | what other improvements can be made? | Nov 15 23:06 |
| schestowitz | I will need to change the scripts a bit after the server moves (when Ariadne is next around) | Nov 15 23:07 |
| vZS1 | 26 October | Nov 15 23:07 |
| schestowitz | that's for plain text files | Nov 15 23:07 |
| vZS1 | Bulletin | Nov 15 23:07 |
| schestowitz | those predate the pi arriving :-) | Nov 15 23:07 |
| vZS1 | Ah | Nov 15 23:07 |
| schestowitz | I thought we might do gopher | Nov 15 23:07 |
| schestowitz | but gopher would do nothing against centralisation | Nov 15 23:08 |
| schestowitz | just culling bloat and stuff | Nov 15 23:08 |
| schestowitz | not even great for privacy | Nov 15 23:08 |
| vZS1 | I think we're good now | Nov 15 23:08 |
| vZS1 | No need for feature creep | Nov 15 23:08 |
| schestowitz | I very much doubt people would use sftp or bbs for their reading | Nov 15 23:08 |
| vZS1 | Keep it simple and stupid | Nov 15 23:08 |
| schestowitz | so those are hypothetical options for protocols to support | Nov 15 23:08 |
| vZS1 | Focus on giving us content now | Nov 15 23:09 |
| vZS1 | Distribution problem is solved | Nov 15 23:09 |
| schestowitz | The idea is to reach an audience without bad practices | Nov 15 23:09 |
| schestowitz | like javascript and css | Nov 15 23:09 |
| schestowitz | rss has always been there | Nov 15 23:09 |
| schestowitz | atom/xml | Nov 15 23:09 |
| schestowitz | now we have text over http | Nov 15 23:10 |
| schestowitz | ipfs | Nov 15 23:10 |
| schestowitz | irc does not contain the actual contents | Nov 15 23:10 |
| schestowitz | just link to it | Nov 15 23:10 |
| vZS1 | I pin your full index so if your Pi goes down, at least you know mine is serving | Nov 15 23:10 |
| schestowitz | which necessitates a Web browser | Nov 15 23:10 |
| schestowitz | do you know anything or anyone still using bbs? | Nov 15 23:11 |
| vZS1 | I think a friend of mine in the US also pins your full index | Nov 15 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I hear they exist | Nov 15 23:11 |
| schestowitz | but no idea how many | Nov 15 23:11 |
| vZS1 | BBS? | Nov 15 23:11 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 15 23:11 |
| schestowitz | still possible to run those | Nov 15 23:11 |
| vZS1 | Please define | Nov 15 23:11 |
| schestowitz | serving a site over bbs | Nov 15 23:12 |
| schestowitz | connect to address, get stream of data | Nov 15 23:12 |
| schestowitz | not sure bbs even supports unicode lol | Nov 15 23:12 |
| schestowitz | it would be a salad of bad character | Nov 15 23:12 |
| schestowitz | for "smart" quotes and stuff | Nov 15 23:12 |
| schestowitz | unless prefiltered | Nov 15 23:12 |
| vZS1 | Oh | Nov 15 23:14 |
| vZS1 | Bulletin | Nov 15 23:14 |
| schestowitz | let's research | Nov 15 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I have spare time | Nov 15 23:14 |
| vZS1 | I don't think supporting anything else is a wise use of resources | Nov 15 23:15 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system | Nov 15 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bulletin board system - Wikipedia | Nov 15 23:15 | |
| vZS1 | We already have a distribution system | Nov 15 23:15 |
| schestowitz | uses telnet | Nov 15 23:15 |
| schestowitz | we do, yes.. | Nov 15 23:16 |
| schestowitz | but I thought, maybe for fun | Nov 15 23:16 |
| schestowitz | though telnet is not secure | Nov 15 23:16 |
| schestowitz | I would not install telnet on a machine that's not a honeypot | Nov 15 23:16 |
| vZS1 | I'd focus more on getting readers to pin your stuff | Nov 15 23:16 |
| vZS1 | That's the next step | Nov 15 23:16 |
| vZS1 | To prevent censorship and make the content more accessible | Nov 15 23:17 |
| schestowitz | https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/bbs/list/brief/ | Nov 15 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telnetbbsguide.com | Brief | Telnet BBS Guide | Nov 15 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: ok, yeah, I give up on this telnet route anyway | Nov 15 23:17 |
| schestowitz | as soon as I realise what it takes in 2020 to mess around with bbs | Nov 15 23:17 |
| vZS1 | I can write a makefile that configures a Techrights ipfs mirror | Nov 15 23:18 |
| vZS1 | Based on the work I've done for you | Nov 15 23:18 |
| vZS1 | To make the bot accessible to non-programmers | Nov 15 23:19 |
| vZS1 | Who still use Linux | Nov 15 23:19 |
| vZS1 | GNU/Linux | Nov 15 23:19 |
| vZS1 | Or BSD even | Nov 15 23:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I know the citidel/ux software does support Unicode but there site has become mega broken. BBS software some of it support unicode. | Nov 15 23:22 |
| vZS1 | But basically, you should remind your readers every now and then that all the bulletins and logs are available on IPFS | Nov 15 23:23 |
| vZS1 | Advertise the TR IPFS CID index on the front page of the site | Nov 15 23:24 |
| vZS1 | Start weaning yourself off wordpress | Nov 15 23:25 |
| vZS1 | It's not sustainable | Nov 15 23:25 |
| vZS1 | Too much heavy infrastructure required | Nov 15 23:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BBS_software#Unix_and_compatible fairly much all the Unix based BBS software had UTF-8 support. Of course this could cause those on dos using dial up in a major nightmare. | Nov 15 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of BBS software - Wikipedia | Nov 15 23:26 | |
| vZS1 | Don't waste your time with alternatives | Nov 15 23:28 |
| vZS1 | You've already got something that works in IPFS | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | I was merely curious | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | finished reading | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | it's not worth it | Nov 15 23:29 |
| vZS1 | I know | Nov 15 23:29 |
| vZS1 | Just saying | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | nostalgia only | Nov 15 23:29 |
| vZS1 | Give us the writing we really need | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | we've mentioned the desktop client | Nov 15 23:29 |
| schestowitz | let me try something like it.. | Nov 15 23:30 |
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| vZS1 | I'm heading to bed now. Look forward to today's bulletin | Nov 15 23:31 |
| schestowitz | ok | Nov 15 23:34 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 15 23:34 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: going forwards I do kind of agree going away from dynamic generation where possible does reduce down reduce down security problems and increase serving options. | Nov 15 23:36 |
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| oiaohm | Of course lot of sites cannot be 100 percent static. | Nov 15 23:37 |
| schestowitz | oh, wow, those bbs servers still work | Nov 15 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and debian already has telnet installed | Nov 15 23:37 |
| oiaohm | Some countries by dialup to bbs is still in active usage. | Nov 15 23:39 |
| oiaohm | Its tech people think that only old movie thing yet its a current day thing as well. | Nov 15 23:39 |
| schestowitz | just connected to a bunch of telnet servers | Nov 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | many are still alive | Nov 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/bbs/list/brief/ | Nov 15 23:41 |
| schestowitz | anyhoo | Nov 15 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telnetbbsguide.com | Brief | Telnet BBS Guide | Nov 15 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | back to earth, let me try my ipfs client | Nov 15 23:41 |
| oiaohm | Most have got rid of their phone lines. | Nov 15 23:42 |
| oiaohm | Most have migrated to one of the ones that runs on Linux. | Nov 15 23:42 |
| schestowitz | can it not be emulated? | Nov 15 23:43 |
| schestowitz | https://blog.infura.io/an-introduction-to-ipfs/ | Nov 15 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.infura.io | An Introduction to IPFS (Interplanetary File System) | Infura Blog | Tutorials, Case Studies, News, Feature Announcements | Nov 15 23:47 | |
| schestowitz | "During Infuraโs four-plus years, we have worked to provide developers with a simplified access path to Ethereum and IPFS. By setting up the first public IPFS APIs and Gateway alongside our Ethereum API, we built a foundational Web3 development suite for building decentralized applications. By supporting IPFS as part of our infrastructure offering, weโve enabled the storage of documents, art assets, music, videos, social network | Nov 15 23:47 |
| schestowitz | information, photos, and more for thousands of users, not to mention distributed, secure storage for the front-end of some of the earliest Dapps. Our IPFS service supports pinning and accessing pinned content directly via the Infura API and allows users to access data pinned across the IPFS network via the Gateway. Currently, we host over 74 million unique objects and handle over 4.5 TB of data transfer per day. ' | Nov 15 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | sad that ipfs does so much promotion for proprietary software github | Nov 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | even in its documentation | Nov 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | they preach dweb | Nov 15 23:55 |
| schestowitz | and moving away from monopolies | Nov 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | but then host everything on Microsoft servers, proprietary, centralised | Nov 15 23:56 |
| schestowitz | makes no sense, a bit of an own goal | Nov 15 23:56 |
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