●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 17, 2022 ●● ● Feb 17 [00:01] bnchs__ "Godot received a $24,000 donation from Microsoft to implement C# as a scripting language in Godot" [00:01] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:01] bnchs__ counting bribes as "donation" [00:01] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:09] *XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 269.70 [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 269.70 [00:10] *altlink_25f has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:11] *tdemin has quit (connection closed) [00:11] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [00:11] *tdemin (~tdemin@q4ekxw9w3cfd2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:13] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:14] MinceR :( [00:14] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:15] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:15] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:15] *XRevan86 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:17] *altlink_25f (~altlink_25f@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] psydroid2 oh, that's why they have that C# crap version [00:17] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22020771 [00:17] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/u4ognwonbsf81.jpg created on 2022-02-07 22:28:16.258054 [00:17] psydroid2 I was already confused so I just built it from scratch [00:17] psydroid2 and I don't have any Mono or .NET installed [00:17] psydroid2 also [00:18] psydroid2 $24,000 is nothing for that kind of work [00:18] psydroid2 are they handing out tips or something? [00:18] MinceR they're buying influence [00:18] *immibis (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-200.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [00:18] MinceR and loyalty [00:23] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [00:23] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:24] XRevan86 This IRC server makes me wish biboumi had auto-reconnect. [00:25] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Maybe we should talk about "Holdup". [00:25] DaemonFC And how there are disturbing signs of potential untoward practices going on behind the curtains. [00:27] *immibis_ (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-200.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [00:27] *immibis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:39] *alextee (~alextee@uwuysj3kprbhs.irc) has joined #techrights [00:44] DaemonFC $24,000? That's it? [00:44] DaemonFC Who accepts $24,000 for that amount of skilled labor? [00:50] bnchs__ so the math library i used had a miscalculation [00:53] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22020618 [00:53] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/zuiwfml8mtf81.png created on 2022-02-06 07:45:00.996665 [00:55] bnchs__ finally pixel perfect 2D drawing in a 3D library [00:59] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 17 [01:00] bnchs__ goodnight [01:01] *bnchs__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:18] TR News #Mozilla uses #DataPrivacyDay to pretend that it still values users' #privacy (it did a long time ago, not it's just posing) https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-secure-data-online/ [01:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/how-to-secure-data-online/ [01:18] TR Bot How to secure your data in less than 10 minutes [01:29] TR News The #WWW is resorting to malware and Web sites are becoming nothing short of #malware https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NOw8FAz-Qyc [01:29] TR Bot Could Crypto Mining Ever Replace Advertising? - Invidious [01:31] TR News Sorting beads the easy way | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/16/sorting-beads-the-easy-way/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [01:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/16/sorting-beads-the-easy-way/ [01:31] TR Bot Sorting beads the easy way | Arduino Blog [01:35] TR News #mozilla does not and cannot speak for #privacy ... it still exploits a reputation it deliberately lost years ago https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/americans-deserve-federal-privacy-protections-and-greater-transparency-into-hidden-harms-online/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla [01:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/americans-deserve-federal-privacy-protections-and-greater-transparency-into-hidden-harms-online/ [01:35] TR Bot Americans deserve federal privacy protections and greater transparency into hidden harms online [01:35] TR Bot Mozilla - Techrights [01:35] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The IRS has a lot of fires raging right now. [01:35] DaemonFC Most of them related to various COVID things going on and underfunding. [01:36] DaemonFC But another that they walked into on their own is ID.me [01:37] TR News Joerg Jaspert: Funny CPU usage - rewrite it in #rustlang https://blog.ganneff.de/2022/02/funny-cpu-usage-rewrite-in-rust.html that leads to a whole bunch of new issues http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ [01:37] TR Bot Funny CPU usage - rewrite it in rust | Ganneffs Little Blog [01:37] TR Bot The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights [01:38] *immibis_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:38] TR News #freebsd new committer: Alfonso S. Siciliano (src) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2022-02-09:1 #bsd #unix [01:38] TR Bot FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project [01:38] *immibis_ (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-200.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [01:40] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-news-now/how-dependent-is-illinois-on-federal-money/ [01:40] TR Bot How dependent is Illinois on federal money? | WGN-TV [01:40] DaemonFC Illinois still gets back less than we pay. [01:40] DaemonFC But we've gone from paying a dollar and getting back 77 cents a few years ago to paying a dollar and getting back 94 cents. [01:41] DaemonFC A lot of that has to do with that constitutional amendment I voted to pass that requires the state to spend transportation taxes on transportation projects, instead of raiding it to pay for welfare and crap. [01:41] TR News Teardown: #Alcatel Telic 1 Minitel Terminal | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/teardown-alcatel-telic-1-minitel-terminal/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latest [01:41] TR Bot Alcatel Telic 1 Minitel Terminal | Hackaday [01:41] TR Bot Index of /2022/02/17/ [01:41] DaemonFC That triggers federal matching funds, and brings more jobs here. [01:42] TR News #Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:42] TR Bot Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick | Tux Machines [01:42] TR News Cardboard; an exciting scrollable tiling window manager Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161550 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:42] TR Bot Cardboard; an exciting scrollable tiling window manager | Tux Machines [01:42] DaemonFC When I votes for it, I broke down Chicago by precinct and I was one of the few that supported it because I lived in South Shore. Like 86% realized the state may have to cut welfare if it funded infrastructure. [01:42] DaemonFC *voted [01:42] TR News It cannot be "Privacy-first" if it targets #android https://medevel.com/fairemail/ [01:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/fairemail/ [01:42] TR Bot FairEmail: a Privacy-first Email client for Android [01:43] DaemonFC But it was massively supported on the north side of Chicago and everywhere else in the state. [01:43] DaemonFC So the measure carried. [01:43] DaemonFC If construction workers don't have jobs, they aren't paying taxes. If they aren't paying taxes, the state revenue goes down and they still have to cut welfare programs because nobody is paying in. [01:44] TR News #Elasticsearch 8 and syslog-ng https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/elasticsearch-8-and-syslog-ng [01:44] TR Bot 8 and syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [01:45] DaemonFC MinceR, The cat's acne is clearing up already. [01:45] DaemonFC I had the vet give me some antibiotic gel for it. [01:46] TR News #Firebird 3.0.9 sub-release is available https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2022/02/firebird-309-sub-release-is-available.html [01:46] TR Bot Mariuz's Blog: Firebird 3.0.9 sub-release is available [01:46] DaemonFC Mom was asking if I really wanted to go in there and have them do that dental cleaning she needs. I said, "What do you mean?". [01:46] DaemonFC She goes, "Well, how old is the cat?". [01:46] DaemonFC I said, "Probably about 8, why?". [01:46] DaemonFC Her cat is 17 out of pure luck. They don't even take it to the vet. [01:47] DaemonFC And they feed it junk. [01:47] DaemonFC Thing would probably live to be my age if they took better care of it. [01:48] DaemonFC The IRS website just plain sucks. [01:48] TR News SIG Node CI Subproject Celebrates Two Years of Test Improvements https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/02/16/sig-node-ci-subproject-celebrates/ [01:48] TR Bot SIG Node CI Subproject Celebrates Two Years of Test Improvements | Kubernetes [01:48] DaemonFC So many people are scrambling to file taxes that the site glitches and sends you to that "Just a moment...." page. [01:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 269.73 [01:51] TR News A Note on D-Bus API Versioning https://blogs.gnome.org/mwleeds/2022/02/16/a-note-on-d-bus-api-versioning/ #gnome [01:51] TR Bot A Note on D-Bus API Versioning Phaedrus Leeds' GNOME Blog [01:52] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Network admins will be familiar with the 0.1 m variety for neat hookups in server cabinets." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/tiny-ethernet-cable-arms-race-spawns-from-reddit-discussion/ [02:01] TR Bot Ethernet Cable Arms Race Spawns From Reddit Discussion | Hackaday [02:02] TR News #Launchpad News: New domain names for PPAs https://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/new-domain-names-for-ppas [02:02] TR Bot Launchpad Blog [02:03] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [02:04] TR News #manubot needs to #deletegithub https://medevel.com/manubot/ #microsoft #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [02:04] TR Bot Manubot: Automated Scholarly Workflow publishing system with Open-source flavor [02:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/manubot/ [02:04] TR Bot Delete Github - Techrights [02:06] TR News "Batteries are amazing. Batteries are horrible. Batteries are a necessary evil in todays world of portable everything. If youre reading this sentence, even if its not on a mobile device, somewhere there is a battery involved." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/when-battery-rebuilds-go-wrong-understanding-bmss-spot-welders-and-safety/ [02:06] TR Bot Battery Rebuilds Go Wrong: Understanding BMSs, Spot Welders, And Safety | Hackaday [02:09] TR News NEWS #WindowsCentral Linux beats Windows 11 when running on the best CPU from Intel https://www.windowscentral.com/linux-beats-windows-11-when-running-best-cpu-intel [02:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/linux-beats-windows-11-when-running-best-cpu-intel [02:09] TR Bot Linux beats Windows 11 when running on the best CPU from Intel | Windows Central [02:10] TR News NEWS #TechRepublic #Slackware Slackware 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick https://www.techrepublic.com/article/slackware-15-is-a-throwback-to-old-school-linux-with-a-modern-kick/ [02:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/slackware-15-is-a-throwback-to-old-school-linux-with-a-modern-kick/ [02:10] TR Bot 15 is a throwback to old-school Linux with a modern kick | TechRepublic [02:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:11] TR News NEWS #Akamai Akamai To Acquire #Linode to Provide Businesses with a Developer-friendly and Massively-distributed Platform to Build, Run and Secure Applications https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode the company you probably did not want to own your machines.... [02:11] TR News NEWS #TheVerge Disney is developing planned communities for fans who never want to leave its clutches https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22937210/disney-residential-communities-storyliving-cotino-planned-town [02:12] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:13] TR News NEWS #TechTarget #ProprietarySoftware Trickbot has infected 140,000-plus machines since late 2020 https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252513466/Trickbot-has-infected-140000-plus-machines-since-late-2020 [02:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252513466/Trickbot-has-infected-140000-plus-machines-since-late-2020 [02:13] TR News NEWS #PCWorld #ProprietarySoftware #vista11 quietly adds subscription info to Settings https://www.pcworld.com/article/613963/windows-11-quietly-adds-subscription-info-to-settings.html http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [02:13] TR News NEWS #PCWorld #ProprietarySoftware #vista11 s update schedule blurs as Microsoft vows continuous innovation https://www.pcworld.com/article/614907/windows-11s-update-schedule-blurs-as-microsoft-promises-continuous-innovation.html [02:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:14] TR News NEWS #Variety #Privacy #Surveillance #Spotify Buys Podcast Analytics Firms #Podsights and Chartable https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-acquires-podsights-chartable-1235184132/ [02:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/spotify-acquires-podsights-chartable-1235184132/ [02:18] TR News NEWS #TheVerge #Energy Why you cant rebuild #Wikipedia with [cryptocurrency] https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22936487/molly-white-web3-is-going-just-great [02:19] TR News NEWS #FOSSForce Neil McGovern Stepping Down as Gnomes Executive Director https://fossforce.com/2022/02/neil-mcgovern-stepping-down-as-gnomes-executive-director/ good riddance http://techrights.org/2022/02/14/goodbye-mcgovern/ [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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Krebs on Security [02:54] TR Bot Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights [02:58] TR News NEWS #NBC #PressFreedom Jury rules against Sarah #Palin in her New York Times #defamation case https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jury-rules-sarah-palin-defamation-case-new-york-rcna16275 [02:58] TR Bot Jury rules against Sarah Palin in her New York Times defamation case [02:58] TR News NEWS #VOANews #PressFreedom Russia-imposed Court in #Crimea Sentences RFE/RL Journalist to Six Years in Prison https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-imposed-court-in-crimea-sentences-rfe-rl-journalist-yesypenko-to-six-years-in-prison/6444162.html [02:58] TR Bot Russia-imposed Court in Crimea Sentences RFE/RL Journalist to Six Years in Prison [02:58] TR News NEWS #ABC #PressFreedom #Pakistan #police arrest media owner after scuffle in capital https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pakistani-police-arrest-journalist-unspecified-charges-82921453 [02:58] TR Bot Pakistani police arrest media owner after scuffle in capital - ABC News [02:58] TR News NEWS #ABC #Internet Prisons, #Water Infrastructure And Broadband: Where States Are Spending Their Pandemic Relief Funding https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/prisons-water-infrastructure-and-broadband-where-states-are-spending-their-pandemic-relief-funding/ [02:58] TR Bot Water Infrastructure And Broadband: Where States Are Spending Their Pandemic Relief Funding | FiveThirtyEight ● Feb 17 [03:02] TR News NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship Content Moderation Case Study: #gulagtube Doubles Down On Questionable 'graphic Content' Enforcement Before Reversing Course (2020) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220216/15250848490/content-moderation-case-study-youtube-doubles-down-questionable-graphic-content-enforcement-before-reversing-course-2020.shtml [03:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220216/15250848490/content-moderation-case-study-youtube-doubles-down-questionable-graphic-content-enforcement-before-reversing-course-2020.shtml [03:02] TR Bot Moderation Case Study: YouTube Doubles Down On Questionable 'graphic Content' Enforcement Before Reversing Course (2020) | Techdirt [03:02] TR News NEWS #AralBalkan #Decentralisation begins at decentring yourself https://ar.al/2022/02/16/decentralisation-begins-at-decentring-yourself/ [03:02] TR Bot Decentralisation begins at decentring yourself Aral Balkan [03:03] TR News NEWS #Techdirt #NASA Says 2nd Gen #Starlink Satellites Will Cause Headaches For NASA, Hubble https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220214/06250748470/nasa-says-2nd-gen-starlink-satellites-will-cause-headaches-nasa-hubble.shtml [03:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220214/06250748470/nasa-says-2nd-gen-starlink-satellites-will-cause-headaches-nasa-hubble.shtml [03:03] TR Bot Says 2nd Gen Starlink Satellites Will Cause Headaches For NASA, Hubble | Techdirt [03:05] TR News 11,305 #covid19 -linked death yesterday (USA 2,802), so anyone who says this thing is nearly over needs reality check. The businesses see people don't have much money to spend, so they don't mind killing several millions more for profit... [03:06] TR News NEWS #Techdirt #Palin Judge And Jury Say Sarah Palin Failed To Prove 'Actual Malice' In #Defamation Case Against The NY Times https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220215/16492748482/judge-jury-say-sarah-palin-failed-to-prove-actual-malice-defamation-case-against-ny-times.shtml [03:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220215/16492748482/judge-jury-say-sarah-palin-failed-to-prove-actual-malice-defamation-case-against-ny-times.shtml [03:06] TR Bot And Jury Say Sarah Palin Failed To Prove 'Actual Malice' In Defamation Case Against The NY Times | Techdirt [03:11] TR News #gulagtube became awful https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/ [03:11] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ ) [03:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxquestions.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ [03:11] TR Bot YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights [03:12] TR News "Youtube's gone the way of television. Back when I was a young 'un, an hour-long TV show was 55 minutes show, 5 minutes commercials. Not it's 44 minutes show, 16 minutes commercials." https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ [03:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxquestions.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/as-i-mourn-what-used-to-be-youtube-4175708107/ [03:12] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [03:21] TR News #billgates -bribed #propaganda apparatus #TheGuardian Explaining vaccine hesitancy by amplifying antivax #disinformation https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/02/16/guardian-explaining-vaccine-hesitancy-by-parroting-antivax-disinformation/ [03:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: respectfulinsolence.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/02/16/guardian-explaining-vaccine-hesitancy-by-parroting-antivax-disinformation/ [03:21] TR Bot The Guardian: "Explaining" vaccine hesitancy by amplifying antivax disinformation - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [03:21] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 236536 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39334 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 weeks 2 days ago [03:21] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. 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[03:25] TR News NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Disaster as "[SCAM] Music Stream" Enrages Artists By Pulling Music From #Gulagtube https://torrentfreak.com/disaster-as-nft-music-stream-enrages-artists-by-pulling-music-from-youtube-220216/ [03:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/disaster-as-nft-music-stream-enrages-artists-by-pulling-music-from-youtube-220216/ [03:25] TR Bot as "NFT Music Stream" Enrages Artists By Pulling Music From YouTube * TorrentFreak [03:25] TR News NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #UploadFilter U.S. #CopyrightOffice Consultation Triggers Massive "Upload Filter" Opposition https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-office-consultation-triggers-massive-upload-filter-opposition-220216/ [03:25] TR Bot Copyright Office Consultation Triggers Massive "Upload Filter" Opposition * TorrentFreak [03:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-office-consultation-triggers-massive-upload-filter-opposition-220216/ [03:25] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:29] TR News 1,720 working gemini sapsules means still about 5 per day in net gain gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [03:29] TR News NEWS #TruthOut #Biden Is Reportedly Requesting Over $770 Billion for Defense for 2023 https://truthout.org/articles/biden-is-reportedly-requesting-over-770-billion-for-defense-for-2023/ graft for #microsoft et al http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [03:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/biden-is-reportedly-requesting-over-770-billion-for-defense-for-2023/ [03:29] TR Bot Biden Is Reportedly Requesting Over $770 Billion for Defense for 2023 [03:29] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [03:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:31] TR News NEWS #EFF Not Just San Francisco: #Police Across the Country are Retaining and Searching #DNA of Victims and Innocent People https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/not-just-san-francisco-police-across-country-are-retaining-and-searching-dna [03:31] TR Bot Not Just San Francisco: Police Across the Country are Retaining and Searching DNA of Victims and Innocent People | Electronic Frontier Foundation [03:31] IPFS QmZHDDpdkiKdpvVjLb94b8X2LhPVMcNQweiDqukj1DyKVT [03:32] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:41] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:42] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:44] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:48] TR News USA has just passed 950k #covid19 -linked deaths. US #corporateMedia does not want people to point out more people die with it in February 2022 than in February 2021, based on official data. Because "open the economy".... [03:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 269.80 ● Feb 17 [04:02] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/dr-tech/where-ai-falls-down-in-cybersecurity [04:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/dr-tech/where-ai-falls-down-in-cybersecurity [04:02] TR Bot Where AI Falls Down in Cybersecurity [04:03] TR News NEWS #Hungary Entire editorial staff of Hungarian news outlet in #Transylvania quits due to political pressure here comes Telex's new project: Transtelex https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/telexs-new-project-transtelex [04:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: telex.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/telexs-new-project-transtelex [04:03] TR Bot Telex: Entire editorial staff of Hungarian news outlet in Transylvania quits due to political pressure here comes Telex's new project: Transtelex [04:03] schestowitz-TR MinceR:^^ [04:03] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: HEY HI [04:03] schestowitz-TR we no longer use algorithms for security [04:03] schestowitz-TR even spamassassin now uses "HEY HI" [04:05] TR News NEWS #EFF #FacialRecognition Privacy Experts to Federal and State Agencies: End Use of Facial Verification Services https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/privacy-experts-federal-and-state-agencies-end-use-facial-verification-services US was always ahead of the curve when it comes to abusing #Privacy [04:05] TR Bot Privacy Experts to Federal and State Agencies: End Use of Facial Verification Services | Electronic Frontier Foundation [04:06] MinceR schestowitz-TR: i've read about it but they were stingy with details [04:06] MinceR like who owned transindex and what they did [04:06] MinceR (i'm guessing they were owned by the same entity as index.hu, but i haven't seen any confirmation of this) [04:06] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, February 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] MinceR (but if so, what were they waiting for?) [04:06] schestowitz-TR is that the hijacked site? [04:07] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:07] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:07] MinceR index.hu was taken over by the communists, yes [04:07] schestowitz-TR communists as in fideath loyalists? [04:07] MinceR 444.hu and telex.hu were both borne off index.hu staffers leaving [04:07] schestowitz-TR why 444? [04:08] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:08] MinceR 444.hu was founded by Peter Uj, who used to be one of the editors-in-chief of index.hu [04:08] MinceR because there were early signs of fideath taking over [04:08] MinceR maybe when index.hu came to be owned by simicska, or simicska got an option for buying it [04:09] TR News NEWS #Techdirt Nonprofit Forced To Delete Thousands Of Court Documents Obtained With A Fee Waiver Because PACER Is Greedy And Stupid https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220212/22004048459/nonprofit-forced-to-delete-thousands-court-documents-obtained-with-fee-waiver-because-pacer-is-greedy-stupid.shtml [04:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220212/22004048459/nonprofit-forced-to-delete-thousands-court-documents-obtained-with-fee-waiver-because-pacer-is-greedy-stupid.shtml [04:09] TR Bot Forced To Delete Thousands Of Court Documents Obtained With A Fee Waiver Because PACER Is Greedy And Stupid | Techdirt [04:09] TR News NEWS #Hungary The Hungarian Academy of Sciences says it is inadmissible for the national drug authority to substitute criminal charges for scientific arguments https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/the-hungarian-academy-of-sciences-says-it-is-inadmissible-for-the-national-drug-authority-to-substitute-criminal-charges-for-scientific-arguments [04:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: telex.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/16/the-hungarian-academy-of-sciences-says-it-is-inadmissible-for-the-national-drug-authority-to-substitute-criminal-charges-for-scientific-arguments [04:09] TR Bot Telex: The Hungarian Academy of Sciences says it is inadmissible for the national drug authority to substitute criminal charges for scientific arguments [04:09] MinceR later simicska had a falling out with orban (G-Day), but index still ended up in fidSS hands [04:10] schestowitz-TR like linux.com with Microsofters [04:15] TR News US regime: we cannot supply masks to 330,000,000 citizens, but we can give 22,000,000,000 dollars in a phony #pentagon 'contract' (bailout) to #microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [04:16] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [04:21] schestowitz Microsoft GitHub because communities can make encrtion and stuff work [10:10] schestowitz-TR [10:10] *encryption [10:10] schestowitz-TR [10:10] harder to mandate back doors [10:10] schestowitz-TR thought is not only about encryption [10:11] schestowitz-TR it is, in genral, about control over people [10:11] schestowitz-TR and the hacker culture is moving in the opposite direction [10:11] schestowitz-TR emancipating and decentralising [10:12] schestowitz-TR Intel has planted a flag in risc-v [10:12] *DarwinElf (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving) [10:12] schestowitz-TR skype came from estonia/sweden [10:12] schestowitz-TR of course nsa had to have that [10:12] schestowitz-TR added to prism as soon as microsoft 'bought' it [10:12] schestowitz-TR took control of the infra [10:12] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:12] schestowitz-TR eliminated p2p [10:12] schestowitz-TR so they can spy on most voip calls worldwide [10:13] darwin what did they plant in risc-v? [10:13] TR News Weird #Phosphor Conversion LEDs Found In Cheap LED String | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/16/weird-phosphor-conversion-leds-found-in-cheap-led-string/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latest [10:13] TR Bot Phosphor Conversion LEDs Found In Cheap LED String | Hackaday [10:13] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [10:14] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161206#comment-32807 [10:14] TR Bot Open Hardware: PySpectrometer on Raspberry Pi and Intel Trying to Tame RISC-V | Tux Machines [10:14] schestowitz as for mozilla (sf area hipsters), they're in bed with gafam [10:14] schestowitz gulag, microsoft, "meta" [10:14] schestowitz they are just pretending there is an "alternative" [10:14] schestowitz they've even managed to break encryption for email in some cases [10:14] schestowitz edge cases [10:15] TR News #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/irc-log-160222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/irc-log-160222/ [10:15] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 | Techrights [10:16] schestowitz-TR [19:35] CISA: the US gov. gives us MILLIONS, and the sole page cited (link) in our not-so-frequent postings is a 404, page not found https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/16/mozilla-releases-security-update-thunderbird [10:16] TR Bot Mozilla Releases Security Updatefor Thunderbird | CISA [10:16] schestowitz-TR [19:34] "Mozilla has released a security update to address a vulnerability in Thunderbird. An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." Didn't look into it, probably some phony "web page" as an 'email' flaw https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/16/mozilla-releases-security-update-thunderbird [10:16] schestowitz-TR (last night) [10:16] schestowitz-TR eff actively attacked email encryptuon also [10:16] schestowitz-TR also sf-based junk [10:16] schestowitz-TR their founder died, another kicked out [10:17] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/11/05/not-the-frontier-anymore/ [10:17] TR Bot EFF Has Been Hijacked, and Just Like Mozilla and the Linux Foundation It Doesnt Fight for What It Was Originally Made to Achieve | Techrights [10:17] schestowitz they are herding people into so-called 'pentagon' so-called 'tech' [10:17] schestowitz-TR phone "apps" [10:17] darwin the attack on encryption has been going on for decades. Recently I even read the biography of Douglas McIlroy, who oversaw/managed the creation of Unix, after discovering/talking about some new eyncryption or decryption in mid-to-late 1900s was visited by 'spooks.' He's still posting on the Gmane Unix heritage newsgroup [10:18] schestowitz-TR they still do this [10:18] schestowitz-TR to people who develop ciphers [10:18] schestowitz-TR trying to buy them off or worser [10:18] schestowitz-TR *worse [10:19] schestowitz-TR gulag put fake encryption inside Linux [10:19] schestowitz-TR until the backlash had that removed months later [10:20] schestowitz-TR they say encryption harms kids [10:20] schestowitz-TR but those who say this are themselves harming kids [10:22] darwin lately Dr McIlroy and others were talking on that newsgroup that another major writer of programs on Unix, actually a woman programmer/scientist, died recently, who wrote a couple command-line calculators, some natural language processing software, and was overseeing some Unix code at some time (even in assembler, assembly, asm) [10:23] schestowitz-TR yes, we mentioned it yesterday [10:23] schestowitz-TR [19:20] "Longtime #Unix developer Lorinda Cherry passed away recently; among other things, she was the creator of the dc and bc utilities still in use today. See this posting from Doublas McIlroy for many more details on her life." https://lwn.net/Articles/885010/ [10:23] TR Bot Cherry RIP [LWN.net] [10:23] schestowitz-TR [18:14] #[TUHS] LorindaCherry Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161535 #UNIX #TuxMachines [10:23] TR Bot [TUHS] Lorinda Cherry | Tux Machines [10:30] TR News Larry Makes 40% More https://assets.amuniversal.com/d2ccdb506a71013a9689005056a9545d #dilbert [10:32] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161562 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:32] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:33] TR News Links 17/2/2022: #CloudReady is Ready (Rebranded), Quality Testing of the Linux Kernel Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/quality-testing-the-linux-kernel/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/quality-testing-the-linux-kernel/ [10:33] TR Bot Links 17/2/2022: CloudReady is Ready (Rebranded), Quality Testing of the Linux Kernel | Techrights [10:35] TR News Cryptography or #security projects that are on #microsoft #github = code that the #nsa controls. There are many different ways GitHub can (and does/will/has managed to) insert back doors, either tailored to a person or to everyone. #deletegithub [10:35] TR News #microsoft #github = #1 enemy of #FreeSW at the moment; controlled by a company subsidised/bailouts out by US Army. [10:36] TR News #microsoft #github = #1 enemy of #FreeSW at the moment; controlled by a company subsidised/bailed out by US Army. http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-enemy/ [10:36] TR Bot The State of Free Software | Techrights [10:37] darwin did you ever find a GNU/Linux or Unix/BSD/IllumOS distribution you felt okay switching to or did they all depend on GitHub/etc. somehow? [10:37] schestowitz-TR no [10:37] schestowitz-TR not much [10:37] schestowitz-TR but [10:37] schestowitz-TR figosdev studied a lot [10:37] darwin the only one on FSF's approved list I ever considered was Dragora [10:37] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Github_Projects_on_Tiny_Core [10:37] TR Bot Github Projects on Tiny Core - Techrights [10:38] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/OctoGNU_timeline [10:38] TR Bot OctoGNU timeline - Techrights [10:38] TR News RMS, 2015: "GitHub does things that are quite bad for free software and is not interested in changing them. If you want to move off Savannah, please pick some other place." http://techrights.org/wiki/OctoGNU_timeline#2015 [10:38] TR Bot OctoGNU timeline - Techrights [10:40] TR News #microsoft shakes the hand of Donald #trump and any other dictator and gets bailed out http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [10:40] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [10:41] TR News #microsoft = crime http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ digital imperialism. [10:41] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [10:42] TR News Jan 2022: #Microsoft Staff Trying to Subvert the Freedom of Gemini (Without Disclosure of the Paymaster) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/01/28/microsoft-and-gemini/ [10:42] TR Bot Microsoft Staff Trying to Subvert the Freedom of Gemini (Without Disclosure of the Paymaster) | Techrights [10:44] TR News #ibm as alternative to #microsoft -- just like Microsoft as alternative to IBM in the 1980s -- does not liberate us. Swapping masters is a fool's errand. [10:44] darwin i took a look at gemini, and it's interesting like gopher was (I'd still consider running either or both if I wanted to host something text-only) but as a graphics/artist person, I prefer WWW, of course, without javascript & etc. (unless absolutely necessary for something else I sometimes use, but don't code myself, like GNU Social or Diaspora) [10:50] schestowitz-TR gemini does graphics too [10:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/01/29/photography-gemini-and-geminispace/ [10:50] TR Bot Photography Hosting in Geminispace With Open/Accessible Internet and Software Freedom | Techrights [10:50] schestowitz gemini://botond.online/en/generative/particle-systems.gmi [10:51] schestowitz gemini://botond.online/en/generative/l-systems.gmi [10:51] schestowitz you just [10:51] schestowitz => myphoto.png [10:51] schestowitz and can add captions to them [10:54] darwin well, that's good, but now I have so much that I always use gallery software now. I used to use zenPHOTO, but it became too complicated/buggy, so I switched to novaGallery ● Feb 17 [11:00] darwin years/decades ago SourceForge was more popular than GitHub, but then SourceForge put some kind of advertising/malware in everyone's archive files, so people migrated to GitHub, which now that owned by Microsoft, I suppose will end up even worse [11:05] schestowitz-TR that's not how it happened [11:05] schestowitz-TR I mean, that one sourceforge debacle isn't why github grew [11:05] schestowitz-TR it did not help [11:05] schestowitz-TR anyway, %-wise github is losing [11:05] schestowitz-TR afaik [11:05] schestowitz-TR people look at alternatives [11:06] darwin good; which ones are growing then? [11:06] schestowitz-TR gitlab to some extent [11:06] schestowitz-TR the company went public [11:06] schestowitz-TR but you don' want gitlab [11:06] darwin i don't know if it's much better or might get bought by something [11:06] schestowitz-TR I looked into it [11:06] *techrights_guest|24 (~a7b3a1ab@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:06] schestowitz-TR we use gemini [11:06] schestowitz-TR hi, techrights_guest|24 [11:07] schestowitz http://techrights.org/gemini/ [11:07] TR Bot Techrights on Gemini | Techrights [11:07] schestowitz http://techrights.org/git/ [11:07] TR Bot Techrights Git (Self-Hosted) | Techrights [11:08] psydroid2 Linus Torvalds did well financially for himself and his family, but at what cost? [11:09] psydroid2 now a whole new generation of people is stuck with an "ecosystem" that is ill and can't be made healthy anymore [11:09] psydroid2 so for humanity as a whole it's becoming a net negative [11:09] schestowitz https://www.osnews.com/story/18600/richard-stallman-dont-follow-linus-torvalds/ [11:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/18600/richard-stallman-dont-follow-linus-torvalds/ [11:09] TR Bot Stallman: Dont Follow Linus Torvalds OSnews [11:09] psydroid2 is that something to be proud of or make it into the history books for? [11:10] schestowitz-TR IDG [11:10] schestowitz-TR original broken already [11:10] schestowitz there is still a COPY in https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/195096/stallman_want_freedom_don_t_follow_linus_torvalds/ [11:10] TR Bot Stallman: If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds - PC World Australia [11:11] schestowitz " I was not a hobbyist, I was a system developer employed at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab. I had little interest in 16-bit microcomputers, because the lab's PDP-10, with a memory equivalent to 2.5 megabytes, was much more fun. Pascal is both weak and inelegant compared with Lisp, our high-level language, and for things that had to be fast, assembler language was more flexible." [11:11] schestowitz "" [11:11] schestowitz "I don't know how I would have reacted at that time if I had seen that memo. My experience at the AI lab had taught me to appreciate the spirit of sharing and free software, but I had not yet come to the conclusion that non-free (proprietary) software was an injustice. In 1976 I did not use any non-free software. It was only in 1977, when Emacs was ported to the non-free Twenex time-sharing system that I started to experience the nastiness of [11:11] schestowitz proprietary software. After that, I needed time to recognize this as an ethical and political issue." [11:12] schestowitz "Copyrights exist, and I have opinions about copyright law. Patents also exist, but patent law is almost completely different from copyright law. My opinions about patent law are also completely different from my opinions about copyright law. Trademark law exists too and it has nothing at all in common with copyright law or patent law. If you want to think clearly about any of these laws, the first step is firmly insisting on treating them as three [11:12] schestowitz different subjects." [11:12] schestowitz "If you say something about "intellectual property," you are trying to generalize about three laws that are totally different. Whatever you say will be a foolish over-generalization, because that term only leads to such. I've decided to avoid that pitfall by never using the term. [See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html for more explanation.]" [11:12] TR Bot Did You Say Intellectual Property? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [11:12] schestowitz this was 15 YEARS ago [11:12] schestowitz he had not altered his position [11:12] *techrights_guest|85 (~a7b3a1ab@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:12] schestowitz the stance is consistent [11:13] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discussion/3320-stallman-if-you-want-freedom-don-t-follow-linus-torvalds/page3#post73329 [11:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/general-discussion/3320-stallman-if-you-want-freedom-don-t-follow-linus-torvalds/page3#post73329 [11:13] TR Bot If you want freedom don't follow Linus Torvalds - Phoronix Forums [11:14] schestowitz "the GPLv3 has _ZERO_ anti-drm clauses or restrictions, and the people who say that simply does not know what they are talking about." [11:14] schestowitz drm and tivoisation have some overlaps [11:14] schestowitz but not the same thing [11:14] darwin in 2004 - '12 I was in university (after college) and the technical writing professor made us write a paper or two that got into the propaganda topic 'intellectual property.' I'd already been aware of FSF/GNU several/many years so was highly critical in my paper and she wrote in red pen 'intellectual property exists!' or something (PhD but didn't really know the laws of it like RMS does) [11:15] schestowitz-TR it's a religion [11:15] darwin Microsoft is a big donor to that university [11:15] schestowitz-TR "IP" [11:16] schestowitz-TR anyway, keep rebutting [11:16] schestowitz-TR it works, eventually [11:16] schestowitz-TR EPO workers stopped saying it [11:16] schestowitz-TR or they put it in scare quotes [11:16] schestowitz-TR as they took have realised it's a BS term [11:17] schestowitz-TR I sometimes wonder who inspired RMS on this topic [11:17] schestowitz-TR surely someone... [11:17] schestowitz-TR Lemley from Stanford blasted this teerm a few years ago [11:17] schestowitz-TR he's like the MOST cited scholar in this domain [11:17] schestowitz-TR and he said it's not property [11:18] schestowitz-TR Kinsella did a book about Intellectual Monopolies [11:18] TR News Good News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro Slax is Still Alive Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161563 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:18] TR Bot Good News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro Slax is Still Alive | Tux Machines [11:20] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: worth doing video+article calling out CNX? [11:20] psydroid2 schestowitz-TR, I think so [11:20] psydroid2 I don't read the Wintel "articles" [11:21] darwin i used Slax when it was Slackware-based; now I'd just use FreeSlack/Freenix/Slackware-live depending if the hardware is open or not [11:21] psydroid2 I know perfectly well what the hardware is capable of from other sites, but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy it [11:21] schestowitz-TR after breakfast I'll record something [11:21] schestowitz-TR so there are the paid-for reviews [11:21] schestowitz-TR the "sponsored" posts [11:21] schestowitz-TR JeanLuc doing some fluff [11:21] schestowitz-TR anything else? [11:22] psydroid2 CNX Software was "our" site where Wintel stuff wasn't prominent [11:22] psydroid2 but if it starts promoting the same stuff it will become less valuable [11:22] schestowitz-TR linux gizmos is still ok [11:22] schestowitz-TR imho [11:22] schestowitz-TR eric brown and rick lehrbaum mever sold out [11:23] schestowitz-TR *never [11:23] psydroid2 all the world's a Wintel box? [11:23] psydroid2 is that what we should get away from it? [11:23] schestowitz-TR if you promote bloated systems [11:23] schestowitz-TR in reality, on "weak" hardware we can now do all we did 10 years ago [11:23] schestowitz-TR browsing, email etc. [11:23] schestowitz-TR even video editing [11:24] schestowitz-TR so unless you are a "gamer" - with so-called "gaming" peripherals - it is moot [11:24] psydroid2 I can do exactly the same things on "weak" hardware [11:24] schestowitz-TR the addition of cores is just more fat on the battery [11:24] psydroid2 as long as I stick to strictly free software [11:24] schestowitz-TR no electron :D [11:24] schestowitz-TR ok, I will record after breakfast [11:25] schestowitz-TR so outline is [11:25] psydroid2 even the electron stuff will run eventually as the "weak" hardware becomes "strong" [11:25] schestowitz-TR sponsored, bribed-for revies, shift to wintel, microsoft fluff like phoronix [11:25] psydroid2 the writing is on the wall for "expensive" Wintel [11:25] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: there we'll have ploooooTONNE [11:25] schestowitz-TR Palladium revisited [11:26] darwin AMD makes more profit than Intel now, but they're basically no better [11:26] schestowitz-TR with support from gulagguy [11:26] schestowitz-TR darwin: yes, they have psp also [11:26] schestowitz-TR and took some of the same staff onboard [11:27] *techrights_guest|85 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [11:27] psydroid2 darwin, we talked about your problems finding a good serial or IPMI connection to manage your server [11:27] psydroid2 it's just something that doesn't exist on x86 without expensive bandaids [11:28] psydroid2 any server should be manageable without graphics in my opinion [11:28] darwin it wasn't for a server, and apparently the hardware doesn't allow those [11:28] schestowitz-TR (let me know if there is another aspect to be covered dre cnx) [11:28] darwin since it's x86(64) [11:28] schestowitz-TR *re cnx [11:28] darwin i mean it would allow it but no BIOS maker added the feature [11:29] psydroid2 and that's because the BIOS is closed and can't be easily replaced with an open firmware [11:29] darwin AMD is just as bad, except certain 2010s AMD-based server system-/logic-/main-/mother-boards that can rune LibreBoot, but apparently there were some disadvantages to running LibreBoot--it didn't actually replace the BIOS and microcode (as I assumed from earlier project called LinuxBios/CoreBoot led to it) just got rid of it. Now my T500 has no BIOS and also I read after a few/several days it will start having errors [11:30] psydroid2 what kind of errors are those? [11:30] psydroid2 all my AMD hardware is from the BIOS era [11:30] darwin the T500s start having some CPU errors after a few days, but I forgot what the description said [11:30] darwin someone on freenode #libreboot told me and/or it's on the website [11:31] psydroid2 in my case it's all AMD AM2 hardware from the late 2000s [11:31] psydroid2 oh, maybe it was leah [11:31] darwin i was going to buy that sort of hardware but I guess because of KDE, I thought it'd be too slow. Even my PC from eight years ago was faster but too slow with KDE [11:31] psydroid2 you also have the microcode mess [11:32] psydroid2 RISC processors don't have microcode, as far as I know [11:32] darwin maybe I meant '0s--can you still get ASUS KGPE D16, etc., anywhere? [11:32] psydroid2 I think Raptor Computing Systems was selling that at the time [11:32] darwin LibreBoot listed at least two similar AMD-based systemboards... I would want the more powerful ones [11:33] psydroid2 but I didn't learn of the company until they were ready to ship their POWER systems [11:34] darwin well that ASUS one doesn't have enough plain PCI slots [11:34] *techrights_guest|24 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [11:36] psydroid2 when I get the time and the tools I will try converting one of my micro-ATX boards to Libreboot [11:36] psydroid2 maybe it's even possible to put u-boot in the flash? [11:53] *u-amarsh04 is still running a 2009 era Asus M3A78 PRO motherboard ● Feb 17 [12:07] schestowitz-TR done video [12:07] schestowitz-TR 37 mins [12:08] *bnchs (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.01 [12:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.01 [12:18] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [12:31] psydroid2 I would have done the same thing with my ASUS and ASRock motherboards [12:32] psydroid2 but I needed a new laptop in 2016, so I bought one that comes with ME and UEFI [12:32] psydroid2 it works reasonably well now [12:32] psydroid2 and then my uncle gave me his laptop too, because it was too cumbersome to get it running well with GNU/Linux [12:33] psydroid2 it turned out to be a defective memory module [12:33] psydroid2 and 2 years ago with the onset of the pandemic I bought 3 used laptops for lighter tasks [12:33] psydroid2 150 in total [12:34] psydroid2 other than that I also bought a used Powermac G5, an Orange Pi and a Sun server in 2017 [12:34] psydroid2 because x86 was only going to be a temporary thing while other hardware would become available [12:34] psydroid2 fortunatately ARM laptops are becoming a thing now [12:35] psydroid2 and hopefully RISC-V will follow soon [12:35] psydroid2 and maybe some day j-core as well [12:36] leah psydroid2: machine check exception? [12:36] leah no wait, you said amd [12:36] leah i'm busy now, but try to catch it next time and show me. just email it to me [12:36] psydroid2 leah, I don't know, I'm not familiar with x86 beyond a little bit of assembly programming I did in the past [12:37] psydroid2 I think it was darwin who ran into that problem [12:37] psydroid2 but I don't mind working with my older board too in the not too distant future [12:37] psydroid2 sure, I'll send you an e-mail when I get to it [12:42] TR News 8 Best #FreeSW Virtual Keyboards Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161564 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:42] TR Bot 8 Best Free and Open Source Virtual Keyboards | Tux Machines [12:43] TR News Tune Your Galaxy Buds With This Open Source Desktop App Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161565 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:43] TR Bot Tune Your Galaxy Buds With This Open Source Desktop App | Tux Machines [12:43] TR News A guide to installing applications on #GNULinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161566 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:43] TR Bot A guide to installing applications on Linux | Tux Machines [12:44] bnchs virtual keyboard on desktop? [12:44] TR News Easily Use Linux Terminal on #Android With These Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161567 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:44] TR Bot Easily Use Linux Terminal on Android With These Apps | Tux Machines [12:44] bnchs i remember using that last time i had a broken keyboard [12:47] bnchs "Linux commands" [12:48] bnchs linux doesn't ship with any commands iirc [12:49] psydroid2 I suppose that whatever commands linus wanted to write was already available from GNU [12:49] psydroid2 so Freax never became more than a kernel [12:49] psydroid2 a kernel for freaks, now more so than ever before [12:50] bnchs also the article just has android terminal emulators [12:50] bnchs which allows you to get access to Android's (not linux) commands [12:50] bnchs or BusyBox if you have that installed [12:51] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:51] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:51] bnchs there's also termux, which is GNU/Linux programs ported to arm android [12:53] psydroid2 I've used Termux before [12:53] psydroid2 it works, but is also limited in some ways [12:53] psydroid2 and the compiler is actually llvm/clang [12:53] psydroid2 even when you install gcc [12:54] psydroid2 or "gcc" [12:54] bnchs really? [12:54] psydroid2 what is more interesting is that such a device could work just fine for development, if you could attach a screen, keyboard and mouse to it [12:54] psydroid2 yes [12:55] bnchs i use termux for remote ssh [12:55] psydroid2 I tried to compile some stuff on it, but it failed [12:55] bnchs or using old phones as servers [12:55] psydroid2 because that was the fastest ARM hardware I had [12:55] psydroid2 that phone's screen broke, so it's out of order now [12:55] bnchs people have more phones than raspberry pi [12:56] bnchs i wish there was a pihole for old phones [12:56] psydroid2 I want to see if I can fully replace the software on such old phones [12:56] psydroid2 but it takes time, especially when it comes to porting drivers to the mainline kernel [12:57] psydroid2 also on some of my older phones the batteries are dead [12:57] bnchs it would be more eco-friendly to use some of the existing devices rather than buying a new raspberry pi [12:57] psydroid2 so I would have to order new ones and hope I didn't break the phones by using the wrong charger [12:58] psydroid2 it would be if we got full access to the hardware [12:58] bnchs yes [12:58] psydroid2 but many phone manufacturers lock bootloaders down and don't give you access to specs, so it becomes much harder than just buying an SBC [12:58] bnchs there's manufactors like HTC that claims to unlock your bootloader [12:58] bnchs but it's just a limited bootloader unlock (you can't modify certain partitions) [12:59] psydroid2 I wanted to do something with an Android TV box that was sitting here unused [12:59] psydroid2 but then it went to a relative, so I don't have it anymore [12:59] bnchs i have a LG G4 that was unofficially unlocked [12:59] bnchs everytime you start it up it says "secure boot error" [12:59] psydroid2 I would like to put mainline u-boot on them ● Feb 17 [13:00] psydroid2 yes [13:00] bnchs but it works afterwards [13:00] psydroid2 I have a Samsung phone here that was used by my mom before, but I really can't do anything with it [13:00] psydroid2 so that is my Android "phone" now [13:00] psydroid2 more like spying device [13:01] bnchs everyone would have servers, if old phones could be turned into a small server like raspberry pi [13:01] psydroid2 I should take some of these older phones apart and study them to find out how they really work [13:01] bnchs i have a old samsung phone that i also unoffically unlocked [13:02] psydroid2 I think there could be a market for replacement boards or services to fully replace the software and disable some of the hardware for people who value privacy and freedom [13:02] psydroid2 Qualcomm+Knox is the "devil" [13:02] bnchs yes [13:02] bnchs it says knox errors in startup [13:02] bnchs but still works [13:02] psydroid2 but maybe I don't know enough about unlocking even such devices [13:03] psydroid2 I haven't been able to replace the software [13:03] psydroid2 let me see what model it is [13:04] bnchs people mostly use their phone for consuming [13:04] psydroid2 Samsung Galaxy J5 SM-J500FN [13:04] bnchs and then they throw it out after it doesn't run their apps anymore [13:04] psydroid2 with very limited storage [13:04] psydroid2 yes [13:04] psydroid2 that's what my mom did [13:05] psydroid2 but I use them in a different way [13:05] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@joseon-hcm.ql1.j9k1p5.IP) has joined #techrights [13:05] psydroid2 I don't install crap and use mostly free software [13:05] psydroid2 so all her old phones are surprisingly capable for me [13:05] bnchs the samsung phone i have is obscure and the custom ROMs were last updated in 2014 [13:05] psydroid2 it's a wasteful industry [13:06] bnchs but the LG phone is still supported with new custom ROMs updates [13:06] psydroid2 but they won't be able to get away with it forever [13:06] psydroid2 new phones have laptop-level specs [13:06] psydroid2 and you don't throw your laptop out every 2-3 years either [13:06] bnchs the lg phone is very powerful [13:06] bnchs even though it was from 2015 [13:07] psydroid2 preventing people from running actually free operating systems on these devices is the biggest crime of all [13:07] psydroid2 excellent hardware (with baseband backdoor) crippled by dodgy software [13:08] bnchs i actually bricked the modem on it once [13:08] psydroid2 if it is possible to create and sell phones, it should also be possible to create and sell PDAs with these same chips [13:08] psydroid2 by accident? [13:08] bnchs yes [13:08] bnchs reflashed it [13:09] bnchs but didn't have audio/microphone or baseband for about a day [13:09] *immibis_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:10] psydroid2 I was thinking that for older devices it may be worthwhile to cripple the modem on purpose and use them as PDAs [13:11] *immibis (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-138-200.89.204.138.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [13:11] bnchs i found it odd that the modem partition was a MS-DOS binary [13:11] psydroid2 especially if they only support older GSM standards that aren't in use anymore [13:11] psydroid2 I don't know much about telecom standards [13:11] psydroid2 yes [13:12] psydroid2 maybe the modem is based on x86? [13:12] psydroid2 I thought it was all MIPS these days [13:12] bnchs it's actually a FAT16 partition [13:13] *ubuntourist has quit (Connection closed) [13:15] psydroid2 I do have a small FAT32 partition on the SD card for my SBC [13:15] psydroid2 with the device tree, the kernel and the u-boot config file [13:15] psydroid2 because I couldn't get it working with ext4 [13:15] bnchs there's also the proprietary camera stacks and shit [13:16] bnchs sometimes there's bug and issues on them [13:16] psydroid2 and didn't bother looking into it further [13:16] bnchs and you can't fix it because the devs are long-gone [13:16] psydroid2 yes, indeed [13:16] bnchs and the company discontinued the product [13:16] psydroid2 if the hardware is worth it, those stacks could be reverse engineered [13:16] psydroid2 but that requires effort [13:17] psydroid2 for Allwinner A64 a lot of support was reverse engineered and mainlined [13:17] psydroid2 some things still don't work, but I'd rather run fully free software and lack some features than run some old and outdated vendor kernel with blobs [13:18] bnchs there's actually some camera issues reported in my phone's custom ROMs [13:18] schestowitz-TR FAT backend [13:18] TR News #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161568 #Linux #TuxMachines [13:18] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:18] bnchs and they had to use workarounds because the issue required modification of the camera stack [13:18] bnchs which of course was proprietary and unknown developers [13:18] psydroid2 HDMI audio output is one of the things that still don't work and the wifi/bluetooth chip doesn't have support in the kernel at all and the out-of-tree driver looks abandoned [13:19] psydroid2 so I don't use the wifi on that device [13:19] psydroid2 yes [13:20] psydroid2 developers of those custom ROMs usually avoid the hard work of reverse engineering things and opening them up for inclusion upstream [13:20] psydroid2 I guess it's the nature of the Android environment [13:20] psydroid2 and it actually doesn't help upstream projects [13:21] psydroid2 it's just a one-off device that gets released and then it's off to the next one [13:24] bnchs let me find the issue [13:25] TR News PULSAR: Lost Colony gets upgrades for Linux and #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/pulsar-lost-colony-gets-upgrades-for-linux-and-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [13:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/pulsar-lost-colony-gets-upgrades-for-linux-and-steam-deck [13:25] TR Bot Lost Colony gets upgrades for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [13:26] TR News Fast-paced brutal FPS ULTRAKILL gets full controller support ready for #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fast-paced-brutal-fps-ultrakill-gets-full-controller-support-ready-for-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux but #DRM ... at least it hurts Windows [13:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/fast-paced-brutal-fps-ultrakill-gets-full-controller-support-ready-for-steam-deck [13:26] TR Bot brutal FPS ULTRAKILL gets full controller support ready for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [13:27] TR News "Total War: #WARHAMMER III has just released although only supported for Windows, with the #Linux release due out "in Early Spring"." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/total-war-warhammer-iii-to-release-for-linux-in-early-spring [13:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/total-war-warhammer-iii-to-release-for-linux-in-early-spring [13:27] TR Bot War: WARHAMMER III to release for Linux 'in Early Spring' | GamingOnLinux [13:31] bnchs https://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/issues_pie/issues/35 [13:31] TR Bot Camera Issue (H815) Issue #35 Suicide-Squirrel/issues_pie GitHub [13:31] bnchs this is the issue [13:31] schestowitz-TR github IS an issue [13:31] schestowitz-TR ;') [13:31] bnchs sorry but they use github [13:31] bnchs In our case i can't fix it ! Issue located in our proprietary camera hal which we use from LG. it's closed source. Issue detected at : E mm-camera-sensor: sensor_pick_fill_expected_data:410ex_w:3840, ex_h:2160,ex_mode:1, ex_fps:30.000000, ex_clk:0, ex_ar: 177 [13:33] bnchs so you have to switch between front and back cam [13:33] psydroid2 we can fix the code and send it upstream or create a project somewhere else [13:33] bnchs "proprietary camera hal" [13:33] psydroid2 but for projects that are already on github it's a bit much to force their hand [13:33] psydroid2 and they won't move anyway [13:33] bnchs the issue is located in the camera HAL [13:34] bnchs which means you have to have access the source code to the camera HAL [13:35] psydroid2 is the image with the binaries available somewhere? [13:35] psydroid2 or those few binaries themselves? [13:35] bnchs https://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge/tree/android-9.0/ [13:35] TR Bot - Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge: Based on a fork from: https://github.com/TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_lge [13:35] bnchs this is the proprietary vendor lge they mix with the ROM [13:38] bnchs https://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge/blob/android-9.0/g4-common/proprietary/vendor/lib/hw/camera.msm8992.so [13:38] TR Bot at android-9.0 Suicide-Squirrel/proprietary_vendor_lge GitHub [13:38] psydroid2 I am cloning it now, first to my Gitlab account and then to my laptop [13:39] bnchs this is the camera module in question [13:39] bnchs that they use currently [13:42] psydroid2 it's an ARM EABI5 binary [13:45] bnchs i'm pretty sure thats not the HAL [13:45] bnchs that's the camera HW module [13:46] schestowitz gemini://kamalatta.ddnss.de [13:46] schestowitz weather in berlin [13:46] schestowitz gemini/gopger [13:46] schestowitz gemini://kamalatta.ddnss.de/wetter.txt [13:46] psydroid2 I've just run arm-linux-gnueabihf-objdump -D on it to obtain some assembly code, but I have no idea what it is supposed to do [13:46] psydroid2 I hate binary drivers [13:47] psydroid2 or drivers that are only available in binary form [13:48] bnchs oh nvm it is [13:48] psydroid2 but maybe we can figure out how to communicate with the camera hardware [13:48] psydroid2 it's just so annoying that they do this to "protect" their "IP" [13:49] bnchs does it have debug symbols [13:49] psydroid2 I don't know [13:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.04 [13:50] bnchs objdump --syms [13:51] psydroid2 no symbols [13:52] bnchs damn [13:52] psydroid2 only lots of unfamiliar (to me) ARM instructions [13:53] psydroid2 is there a way to figure out how to communicate with the camera just by setting some registers? [13:53] bnchs running the SO file with vim [13:54] bnchs i see a bunch of C++ mangled function names [13:54] bnchs and pthread-related functions [13:54] psydroid2 oh [13:54] psydroid2 clear [13:54] psydroid2 oops [13:57] bnchs so there's alot of C++ mangled function names including C functions that the SO module uses [13:57] bnchs such as atoi pthread [13:57] psydroid2 yes, I see those function names [13:59] psydroid2 but how do you deal with garbage like this? ● Feb 17 [14:00] bnchs virtual int32_t qcamera::QCamera3PicChannel::stop() [14:00] psydroid2 I have no experience reverse engineering drivers [14:01] bnchs this is a qualcom camera driver [14:01] bnchs usually they look for a "open source" version of the driver [14:01] bnchs like they did with the IR driver [14:01] psydroid2 and it's a userspace driver, right? [14:02] bnchs it's a subsystem [14:02] psydroid2 and this gets called by applications? [14:03] TR News #Games: Final Vendetta, PULSAR: Lost Colony, More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161569 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:03] TR Bot Games: Final Vendetta, PULSAR: Lost Colony, More | Tux Machines [14:03] bnchs yes [14:03] bnchs but it has a buggy camera2 implementation [14:03] bnchs which crashes open camera [14:04] bnchs https://blog.csdn.net/lintwins/article/details/49783917 [14:04] TR Bot 820msm8996camera hal_lintwins-CSDN [14:04] bnchs someone claims to reverse engineer the camera hal [14:04] bnchs written in chinese [14:04] bnchs but it has pictures [14:05] TR News Wow. For almost a DAY now #lxer dot com is unregistered. Are the admins aware? I'm sure they are. Why is this taking soi long to rectify? [14:05] psydroid2 https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.14/media/v4l-drivers/qcom_camss.html [14:06] TR Bot 24. Qualcomm Camera Subsystem driver The Linux Kernel documentation [14:06] psydroid2 I don't know anything about v4l either [14:06] psydroid2 I don't know if anyone here knows Chinese [14:06] bnchs some of the pictures seems interesting [14:06] psydroid2 but I have a friend who does [14:06] bnchs looks like some internal source code [14:06] bnchs of the camera driver [14:06] psydroid2 a few even [14:06] bnchs or reverse engineered whatever [14:08] bnchs "I have read Qualcomm's camera's v4l2 driver and video codec's driver before, and haven't shared the source architecture diagram. Now first share the source architecture diagram of camera hal. Qualcomm's hal can use hal1 and hal3." [14:09] bnchs the title is "Qualcomm 820 (msm8996) camera hal source code analysis" [14:09] psydroid2 what is this? [14:09] psydroid2 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/camera/+/master/msm8998/QCamera2/HAL3/QCamera3HWI.cpp [14:09] TR Bot msm8998/QCamera2/HAL3/QCamera3HWI.cpp - platform/hardware/qcom/camera - Git at Google [14:10] psydroid2 yours is msm8992 [14:11] bnchs let me take a look [14:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:12] psydroid2 I don't see anything useful here [14:12] psydroid2 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/bt/+/refs/heads/master/msm8992/ [14:12] TR Bot msm8992 - platform/hardware/qcom/bt - Git at Google [14:13] bnchs https://android.googlesource.com/platform/hardware/qcom/camera/+/refs/heads/master/msm8998/Android.mk [14:13] TR Bot msm8998/Android.mk - platform/hardware/qcom/camera - Git at Google [14:13] bnchs "MM_V4L2_DRIVER_LIST += msm8992" [14:14] bnchs so this is some kind of all-in-one source code of the msm camera drivers [14:15] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22020747 [14:15] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/oaj65ma6opf81.jpg created on 2022-02-07 15:26:17.153215 [14:15] *hj88 (~519aa912@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [14:16] *hj88 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:19] psydroid2 so it could be useful [14:24] psydroid2 I don't know how old your phone is and what its specs are but maybe it can run a newer Android/LineageOS build [14:24] SomeH4x0r "it can"? [14:25] SomeH4x0r fuck Android [14:25] bnchs it has support for android 10.0 [14:25] bnchs but really i don't want to [14:25] SomeH4x0r find a device which isn't into this shit [14:25] SomeH4x0r planned obsolescence, fuck it [14:26] psydroid2 well, it would be best to just run GNU/Linux or something else on it [14:26] SomeH4x0r yes [14:26] bnchs postmarketOS [14:27] psydroid2 are the kernel sources available too? [14:28] bnchs https://github.com/Suicide-Squirrel/kernel_lge_h811 [14:28] TR Bot - Suicide-Squirrel/kernel_lge_h811 [14:30] bnchs even though my device is h810, it is h811-compatible [14:31] psydroid2 they should be close enough in practice [14:31] psydroid2 I really dislike that drivers aren't being upstreamed, though [14:33] bnchs recently a lineageOS 17.1 rom was released [14:34] bnchs they had issues with the camera (ofc), but they fixed it (with C knowledge) [14:36] TR News The World of Linux Through the Lens of #ZDNet in 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [14:36] TR Bot The World of Linux Through the Lens of ZDNet in 2022 | Techrights [14:36] TR Bot ZDNet - Techrights [14:38] TR News Top 5 Live Streaming Application for #Ubuntu and Other #GNULinux [2022 Edition] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161570 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:38] TR Bot Top 5 Live Streaming Application for Ubuntu and Other Linux [2022 Edition] | Tux Machines [14:39] bnchs anyway lets get back to tech! [14:47] psydroid2 we are doing tech! [14:47] psydroid2 hardcore tech even [14:48] psydroid2 I actually got back to music a few minutes ago [14:50] bnchs yes ● Feb 17 [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:08] *techrights_guest|40 (~c9f386d3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:09] techrights_guest|40 Hi [15:09] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:10] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:11] techrights_guest|40 RMS our Lord and Saviour [15:11] SomeH4x0r hi [15:12] schestowitz-TR 0/ [15:12] techrights_guest|40 hello there [15:14] *bnchs (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [15:16] schestowitz-TR new here? [15:16] SomeH4x0r do techrights_guests come from some webchat? [15:16] techrights_guest|40 Yeah [15:17] schestowitz-TR yeah, it's a good way to start anyway [15:17] schestowitz-TR to a lot of people the very concept of IRC is outlandish [15:18] techrights_guest|40 I'm writing from the webpage. [15:20] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [15:21] *bnchs (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [15:22] bnchs my messages didn't go through [15:22] bnchs thanks ISP for DNS hijacking and TCP reset attacks [15:23] bnchs how does webchat IRC work, theres no way the browser allows websites to make TCP connections [15:26] TR News The C in #CNXSoftware is Not Community Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ [15:26] TR Bot The C in CNX Software is Not Community | Techrights [15:26] schestowitz-TR bnchs: we could set up our own web relay for m IRC [15:26] schestowitz-TR I looked into 3 or 4 [15:26] schestowitz-TR but the dependencies they bring in are unwanted [15:26] techrights_guest|40 Yeah Mr. Schestowitz, I find it very complicated to use an IRC, but at least it's easy here. [15:27] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@nh322y9esq92w.irc) has joined #techrights [15:27] schestowitz-TR the backend opens a websocket [15:27] schestowitz-TR and there are libs that deal with irc protocol [15:27] bnchs maybe write it for gemini [15:27] schestowitz-TR we have something [15:28] bnchs actually impossible for gemini [15:28] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [15:28] bnchs or very diffcuit [15:28] bnchs there's no textfields in gemini [15:28] schestowitz Latest chat logs for #techrights (updated every 5-10 minutes) [15:28] schestowitz it's not impossible for gemini [15:28] schestowitz I thought about implementing it [15:28] bnchs yes [15:29] bnchs but very hard [15:29] schestowitz gemini takes inputs [15:29] bnchs you would have to type parameters in the URL [15:29] schestowitz but our server software, agate, lacks support for cgi [15:30] schestowitz you could even do irc over ftp [15:30] schestowitz like, you upload a file with a message [15:30] schestowitz then techrights-news detects new file handle [15:31] bnchs yes [15:31] schestowitz and cats(a) it into ii (suckless) [15:31] bnchs but with gemini, it's too user-unfriendly [15:31] bnchs imagine having to type out URLs just to send a message [15:31] schestowitz the above page updates every 5 minutes [15:31] schestowitz so hard to interact [15:31] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/advancing-gemini/ [15:31] TR Bot Chat Over Gemini:// and Potentially IRC or Document Drops | Techrights [15:31] schestowitz it's more like guestbook [15:31] schestowitz or messageboard [15:32] schestowitz not irc [15:32] schestowitz as you need to refresh to see what other people type in [15:32] bnchs gemini is not ready for interactivity [15:32] schestowitz it is not designed for it [15:32] schestowitz there are protocols like titan:// [15:32] schestowitz but that's for uploads etc. [15:32] schestowitz sparten:// also [15:32] schestowitz *tan [15:33] bnchs you know what's better than this [15:33] bnchs instead of downloading a titan or spartan client [15:33] bnchs how about just downloading a IRC client [15:33] schestowitz lagrange supports many protocols [15:33] schestowitz kristall can handle several too, inc. http/s with basic html [15:34] schestowitz irc clients are made for one purpose [15:36] psydroid8 maybe an irc client that looks like lagrange and could be loaded as a plugin [15:37] psydroid8 just to make it fit in but otherwise not depend on gemini [15:38] psydroid8 or kristall or some other application for that matter [15:39] schestowitz-TR wrong approach [15:39] schestowitz-TR let the window manager handle tasks [15:39] psydroid8 the only reason why there are web irc clients is that the web became an application platform [15:39] schestowitz-TR rather than lump everything onto a browser [15:40] schestowitz-TR bolted in like Communicator in Netscape Navigator [15:40] schestowitz-TR which means a flaw in the mail client requires you to get the whole Web browser again [15:40] schestowitz-TR I mean, in Linux it's not like we have one piece of of software doing everything ;-) [15:40] schestowitz-TR that's a systemd problem ;-) [15:41] bnchs wiby's real-time chat website [15:41] bnchs it doesn't depend on javascript [15:41] schestowitz-TR there is this thing called choome OS [15:41] bnchs it uses old HTML shit [15:41] psydroid8 I've never understood why people don't want to download a separate irc client [15:41] schestowitz-TR wherein there's this "everything is webapp" mindset [15:41] psydroid8 unless they are not technically inclined [15:41] schestowitz-TR office suite? spreadsheet? that's a web app! BROWSER! [15:42] bnchs browsers can only handle so much [15:42] psydroid8 in which case you throw them a bone and make it easy to get online [15:42] bnchs there will be a limit [15:42] bnchs like operating systems and virtual machines [15:42] psydroid8 but if you are interested in gemini you probably know enough to use a separate client [15:43] psydroid8 I avoid the browser as much as possible [15:43] psydroid8 maybe that's the "app" mindset, but I'd rather call it the application mindset [15:44] psydroid8 desktop applications that we used before lumping everything into the browser [15:45] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@nh322y9esq92w.irc) has joined #techrights [15:45] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [15:45] schestowitz-TR then they added deskto-side notifications [15:45] schestowitz-TR which means that some rmote site you never heard of can request control over OS-level things [15:46] schestowitz-TR no more browser sandbox [15:46] schestowitz-TR enable mcrophone [15:46] schestowitz-TR enable webcam [15:46] schestowitz-TR get location [15:46] schestowitz-TR get screen size [15:46] bnchs enable screen recording [15:46] bnchs enable webgl [15:46] schestowitz-TR lol [15:46] schestowitz-TR crash computer [15:46] bnchs there's an API for recording your screen [15:47] schestowitz-TR great idea! [15:47] schestowitz-TR activeX 'standardised' [15:47] schestowitz-TR go to web site [15:47] schestowitz-TR popup comes up [15:47] schestowitz-TR "press here to reboot your machine' [15:47] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture [15:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture [15:47] TR Bot Using the Screen Capture API - Web APIs | MDN [15:47] *schestowitz-TR closes eyes [15:48] bnchs ofc this got disabled in user.js hacks [15:48] bnchs returns a NotAllowedError [15:49] *psydroid9 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:50] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_API [15:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_API [15:50] TR Bot Battery Status API - Web APIs | MDN [15:50] bnchs battery API [15:51] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Proximity_Events [15:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Proximity_Events [15:51] TR Bot Proximity Events - Web APIs | MDN [15:51] bnchs motherfucking PROXIMITY API [15:51] bnchs so that you can know when someone is CLOSE TO THE DEVICE [15:51] schestowitz-TR lol [15:51] schestowitz-TR metafox [15:51] schestowitz-TR now we need api to get a 'little' recording [15:51] schestowitz-TR just a little [15:52] schestowitz-TR to know enougn what they might want to buy [15:52] bnchs they're gonna use this for ads [15:52] schestowitz-TR you know, because "ads finance the web", according to mozilla last week [15:52] schestowitz-TR to paraphrase [15:52] SomeH4x0r "buy" newspeak [15:52] SomeH4x0r pay for access [15:52] bnchs "hey you! i know you're looking dumbass" [15:52] SomeH4x0r you "buy", then it gets revoked [15:53] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System_Access_API [15:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/File_System_Access_API [15:53] TR Bot File System Access API - Web APIs | MDN [15:53] SomeH4x0r linking all this shit to accounts, and threatening with COCs and bans [15:53] bnchs FILE SYSTEM API [15:53] SomeH4x0r social credit-like [15:53] bnchs No explaination needed [15:53] bnchs you can access the user's file system [15:53] SomeH4x0r fake AVs claimed to do it decades ago [15:53] SomeH4x0r scanning over the web [15:53] schestowitz https://www.prweek.com/article/1740679/mozilla-meta-collaborate-privacy-preserving-attribution-solution [15:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: prweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prweek.com/article/1740679/mozilla-meta-collaborate-privacy-preserving-attribution-solution [15:53] TR Bot Mozilla and Meta collaborate on privacy-preserving attribution solution | PR Week [15:53] SomeH4x0r now it gets implemented? [15:54] schestowitz https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-preserving-attribution-for-advertising/ [15:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-preserving-attribution-for-advertising/ [15:54] TR Bot Privacy Preserving Attribution for Advertising [15:54] schestowitz "Advertising provides critical support for the Web." [15:54] schestowitz Bombs provide critical support too [15:54] schestowitz like, when you take over a country [15:54] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Barcode_Detection_API [15:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Barcode_Detection_API [15:54] TR Bot Barcode Detection API - Web APIs | MDN [15:54] bnchs Barcode API [15:54] bnchs why????? [15:54] schestowitz exactly! [15:55] schestowitz screw www [15:55] schestowitz it's done [15:55] bnchs this is insane [15:55] schestowitz they standarise all the malicious things [15:55] schestowitz add x [15:55] schestowitz x " provides critical support for the Web."" [15:55] schestowitz means [15:55] schestowitz to MAGMA [15:55] schestowitz Meta, Apple, Gulag, Microsoft, Rotten Apple [15:56] schestowitz I did another video about gemini moments ago [15:56] schestowitz now processing [15:56] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Beacon_API [15:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Beacon_API [15:56] TR Bot Beacon API - Web APIs | MDN [15:56] schestowitz we need to promote gemini [15:56] bnchs "send a request with no response" [15:56] bnchs "used for analytics" [15:56] schestowitz any time still promoting Web sites is time wasted from the POV of a future Internet [15:56] schestowitz esp. if you are within a community that doesn't do "apps" and "likes" [15:56] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:57] bnchs there's a fucking contact picker API [15:57] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium [15:57] TR Bot World Wide Web Consortium - Techrights [15:57] bnchs thankfully it's only implemented in CHROMIUM BROWSERS [15:58] bnchs https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Contact_Picker_API [15:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Contact_Picker_API [15:58] TR Bot Contact Picker API - Web APIs | MDN [15:59] bnchs javascript is the swiss army knife of APIs [15:59] bnchs we should have gone back to mid 2000's javascript ● Feb 17 [16:00] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [16:00] *gullfaxi[m] has quit (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) [16:00] psydroid8 "open source" is in with this agenda [16:01] psydroid8 spy on anyone anywhere anytime using any means [16:01] psydroid8 as long as there is a "business model" [16:01] bnchs i'm pretty sure if you removed all this shitty APIs [16:01] bnchs you could compile the browser in less than 2 hours [16:02] psydroid8 netsurf and falkon are ok browsers [16:02] SomeH4x0r the compile time depends on the hardware [16:02] psydroid8 if you need more then you probably need something different from a browser [16:03] *CrystalMath (~coderain@n5jus4rpyjxu4.irc) has joined #techrights [16:03] SomeH4x0r I'm not sure about Falkon. WebKit is used among a lot "lightweight" web browsers. [16:03] bnchs yes i know [16:03] SomeH4x0r WebEngine/Blink is not OK at all [16:03] psydroid8 it's like abusing spreadsheet for data reporting [16:03] bnchs webkit was used for security vulnerabilities [16:03] psydroid8 GNOME Web is slower than Falkon on my laptop [16:04] techrights_guest|40 And PaleMoon? [16:04] bnchs pale moon is garbage now [16:04] psydroid8 I haven't tried that but isn't the developer of PaleMoon a bit of a jerk? [16:04] bnchs i'm pretty sure you never heard of the story of [16:05] psydroid8 I know the developer of ArcticFox [16:05] bnchs tubby tobian and manchild furry against a russian [16:05] psydroid8 greygandalf on irc [16:05] bnchs the quest against mypal [16:05] psydroid8 rm@gnu.org [16:05] psydroid8 maybe that's something to look into [16:06] bnchs matt tobin* [16:06] psydroid8 I'll try to see what he's up to [16:06] bnchs he got doxxed on kiwi farms [16:06] bnchs after his mypal shenanigians [16:07] techrights_guest|40 Actually i read their forum... [16:08] psydroid8 could the Gecko engine still be isolated into a library? [16:08] bnchs the mypal browser was just a fork of palemoon modified to run on windows xp [16:09] psydroid8 I think at this point Firefox development is more about annoying users into abandoning the browser than about being a good browser in its own right [16:10] techrights_guest|40 And they are very strict about the Licence... (Moonchild and the Team) [16:10] bnchs they should only be strict about their branding [16:10] TR News #RedHat: Moving from a proprietary to an open source culture Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161571 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:10] TR Bot RedHat: Moving from a proprietary to an open source culture | Tux Machines [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.06 [16:10] bnchs when it's someone else's branding, they shouldn't make up license violations and assume bad faith to get them to remove their projects [16:11] techrights_guest|40 bnchs i agree with you. [16:14] bnchs https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/18 [16:14] TR Bot code is not provided Issue #18 Feodor2/Mypal GitHub [16:15] bnchs matt tobian posts, argues about why the source tree is just a bunch of patch files instead of full source code [16:15] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [16:16] bnchs https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/3 [16:16] TR Bot Issue #3 Feodor2/Mypal GitHub [16:16] bnchs big wall of issue [16:16] bnchs moonchild and matt tobian fights against feodor2 [16:17] techrights_guest|40 psydroid8 yeah google pays them to sabotage the browser (Firefox), and now here we are, with a web dominated by Gulag... [16:18] *psydroid2 actually wishes for Firefox to just die at this point [16:18] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22020715 [16:18] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ouype7czrae81.jpg created on 2022-02-07 04:45:52.836599 [16:18] techrights_guest|40 Goddammit [16:18] bnchs palemoon is just copyright trolling [16:19] psydroid2 so forks don't have to chase its codebase all the time [16:19] bnchs and i didn't talk about how they canceled the openBSD port, because the port used system libs [16:19] psydroid2 I have a feeling that its development is only continued to annoy independent developers [16:19] bnchs the community openBSD port* [16:19] psydroid2 "can't have our precious codebase" [16:20] psydroid2 Audacity also did this kind of vendoring of outdated libraries [16:20] psydroid2 and they got away with it for 20 years [16:20] psydroid2 apart from other questionable practices [16:21] bnchs https://www.palemoon.org/history.shtml [16:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: palemoon.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.palemoon.org/history.shtml [16:21] TR Bot Pale Moon - Project History [16:21] bnchs look at the bottom [16:21] bnchs "2021, or: how Open Source ends" [16:22] SomeH4x0r ends? [16:22] bnchs remember this was all because of a russian that decided to fork pale moon to make it support windows XP [16:23] psydroid2 if he wants to do so, let him [16:24] psydroid2 as if anyone sane would still be using windows XP in 2022 [16:24] *techrights_guest|40 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [16:24] bnchs also pale moon attempted to sabotage mypal [16:24] bnchs by blocking them from the pale moon addons site [16:24] bnchs https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/19 [16:24] TR Bot blocked from accessing addons.palemoon.org Issue #19 Feodor2/Mypal GitHub [16:25] psydroid2 I know primarily about the OpenBSD issue [16:25] psydroid2 which isn't an issue, but makes a lot of good sense [16:26] bnchs matt tobin is a big fatass anyway [16:26] bnchs feodor2 forked firefox quantum and ported it to windows xp [16:27] bnchs https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/19492771/152347482-f51058cd-2967-4bc5-80fd-5d269c328774.png [16:27] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:29] psydroid2 microsoft's agenda for planned obsolescence shouldn't coincide with the agenda of free software projects to abandon those platforms microsoft deems obsolete [16:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] bnchs yes [16:31] psydroid2 I was actually having trouble getting some software running on ReactOS 0.4.14 because of that [16:32] bnchs but this is probably because competition [16:32] bnchs pale moon was to be the only pale moon browser [16:32] psydroid2 but I think they use microsoft compilers that drop support for older operating systems [16:32] psydroid2 if you stick to gcc there is no such issue [16:33] psydroid2 didn't the russian developer rename his fork to grizzly bear moon? [16:38] bnchs no [16:38] bnchs swap the first letters in each words in "pale moon" [16:40] psydroid2 that should have done the job [16:41] bnchs male poon [16:43] *techrights_guest|40 (~c9f386d3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:43] schestowitz-TR lol [16:44] schestowitz-TR it is the binary version [16:44] schestowitz-TR i use librewolf [16:44] schestowitz-TR rianne uses it too [16:44] bnchs good [16:44] schestowitz-TR and loves it because it works better than ff performance-wise [16:44] bnchs i laugh at anyone who uses pale moon [16:45] schestowitz-TR i tried gnu icecat around 2005 or 06 [16:45] schestowitz-TR back then konqueror was still a thing [16:45] schestowitz-TR I still use konqueror every day [16:45] schestowitz-TR but the main browser is falkon [16:45] schestowitz-TR sometimes netsuef on the old laptop [16:45] schestowitz-TR *netsurf [16:46] schestowitz-TR I never used pale moon [16:46] schestowitz-TR technically iceweasel was just firefox sans branding afaik [16:47] bnchs you missed nothing [16:47] bnchs creator of pale moon supports cloudflare [16:47] TR News Been fulfilling promise to myself to produce more videos per day, even long ones. Too much stuff on the #www is a waste of time, and the vacuum of actual information can be combated by producing more oneself [16:48] schestowitz-TR clownflare [16:48] schestowitz-TR they hate me [16:48] schestowitz-TR for criticising them [16:48] schestowitz-TR on technical terms [16:48] schestowitz-TR and their workers were maybe instructed to make me insisible [16:48] schestowitz-TR as I am bad for their morale [16:50] bnchs pale moon is nothing but copyright trolls, cloudflare supporters, tor haters [16:51] MinceR failmoon also bans at least one extension [16:51] schestowitz-TR wait, let me ask [16:51] schestowitz-TR a browser does not do cdns [16:51] schestowitz-TR is this about dns? [16:52] schestowitz-TR as 'secure' dns they outsource the spying from your ISP to USA [16:52] schestowitz-TR so you get NSA/Clownflare/Comcast instead of a Moroccan ISP [16:52] schestowitz-TR how is that any safer? [16:52] schestowitz-TR nobody even wants to answer this question [16:52] schestowitz-TR they say, trust us!! [16:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ [16:53] TR Bot Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights [16:53] bnchs the best way is to cache the DNS as much as possible [16:53] bnchs and talk with the DNS server less [16:54] bnchs https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/1743#issuecomment-345993097 [16:54] TR Bot an option to stop trusting Cloudflare certificate Issue #1743 mozilla-mobile/focus-android GitHub [16:54] bnchs https://github.com/yacy/yacy_search_server/issues/314#issuecomment-565932097 [16:54] TR Bot Github Issue #314 yacy/yacy_search_server GitHub [16:54] bnchs moonchild supports cloudflare and hates tor [16:54] bnchs "let them be hostile against tor" [16:54] bnchs "you don't need to use it" [16:57] bnchs programs and DNS resolvers should take DNS responses with a grain of salt [16:57] bnchs and people using the DNS resolvers should be wary of the DNS provider's privacy policy [16:59] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22020650 [16:59] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/1ivuzi95ktf81.png created on 2022-02-06 17:44:00.224937 ● Feb 17 [17:02] TR News Getting Accurate News on the #Internet is Hard; From the Web Its Even Harder Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ [17:02] TR Bot Getting Accurate News on the Internet is Hard; From the Web Its Even Harder | Techrights [17:12] techrights_guest|40 bnchs Like AdGuard DNS or something? [17:15] bnchs checked out adguard DNS [17:15] bnchs greeted with a software-rendered SVG animation [17:15] bnchs that slowed down the browser [17:15] bnchs adguard DNS's website [17:17] bnchs techrights_guest|40 DNS services can only log up to the domain requested, and IP address of whoever requested it [17:18] techrights_guest|40 Oh [17:23] techrights_guest|40 bnchs Interesting [17:23] schestowitz-TR :) [17:25] techrights_guest|40 "happy face intensifies" [17:32] techrights_guest|40 schestowitz-TR lol actually i don't know so much about network's, but i always considering it something very interesting [17:32] techrights_guest|40 to learn. [17:36] bnchs people should assume that DNS service logs everything [17:36] bnchs and take their privacy policy with a grain of salt [17:36] bnchs is what i meant [17:38] psydroid2 what does it take to run your own complete DNS service from home? [17:38] psydroid2 it shouldn't need that powerful hardware [17:38] bnchs the question is: why would we need one [17:39] bnchs DNS is simply asking nameservers for directions until you get to the IP address you wanted [17:39] TR News How to keep #apple and #microsoft awake at night? https://pocketnow.com/install-chrome-os-on-mac-or-pc [17:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: pocketnow.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pocketnow.com/install-chrome-os-on-mac-or-pc [17:39] TR Bot to install Chrome OS on your old Mac or PC - Pocketnow [17:41] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [17:41] techrights_guest|40 bnchs Danm, maybe I should stop using Adguard DNS... or they are trustworthy? [17:41] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] bnchs__ they're as trustworthy as any other DNS services [17:42] SomeH4x0r not "any" [17:42] bnchs__ yes [17:42] SomeH4x0r someone attacked my router in the past by insterting an evil DNS server [17:43] bnchs__ there's some services that obey GDPR [17:43] techrights_guest|40 No TechrightsBot-tr i dont want google shit as my primary OS. [17:43] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTHGsjNX4BY [17:43] TR Bot NO TITLE [17:43] SomeH4x0r techrights_guest|40: they also advertise Steam shit here [17:43] TR News Oh, great. #backdoors in your #graphics handling too. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/intel-confirms-standalone-arc-graphics-due-in-q2-also-project-endgame-this-year go away, #intel http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [17:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/intel-confirms-standalone-arc-graphics-due-in-q2-also-project-endgame-this-year [17:43] TR Bot confirms standalone Arc Graphics due in Q2, also 'Project Endgame' this year | GamingOnLinux [17:43] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [17:44] bnchs__ GDPR requires IP addresses to be obfuscated (replaced with a dummy IP like 127.0.0.1) or removed [17:44] SomeH4x0r and make excuses like "let switchers run this shit on GNU/Linux" [17:44] *immibis_ (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-139-245.89.204.139.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [17:44] bnchs__ because IP address is considered personal info [17:44] TR News #Mechajammer brings tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG pixels to Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/mechajammer-brings-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpg-pixels-to-linux #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [17:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/mechajammer-brings-tactical-cyberpunk-turn-based-rpg-pixels-to-linux [17:44] TR Bot brings tactical cyberpunk turn-based RPG pixels to Linux | GamingOnLinux [17:44] TR News Just get rid of the friggin' ads, #gulag https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-android-privacy-sandbox/ [17:45] SomeH4x0r GamingOnLinux is mostly evil, I think [17:45] TR Bot Google Addresses Ads Privacy with Android Privacy Sandbox - Make Tech Easier [17:45] TR News #Retro x86-based machine emulator #86Box v3.2 brings Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/retro-x86-based-machine-emulator-86box-32-brings-linux-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux [17:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/retro-x86-based-machine-emulator-86box-32-brings-linux-support [17:45] TR Bot x86-based machine emulator 86Box v3.2 brings Linux support | GamingOnLinux [17:46] MinceR does having a kernel controlled by a "foundation" that has google as one of its platinum members count as "google shit"? :> [17:46] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161572 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:46] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:46] MinceR s/platinum/gold/ [17:47] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:47] TR News "Canonical has a big week, why #bcachefs looks like it's taking another step forward, and #ChromeOS Flex for PCs is released." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147687/linux-action-news-228/ [17:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147687/linux-action-news-228/ [17:47] TR Bot Linux Action News 228 | Jupiter Broadcasting [17:47] schestowitz-TR we could make a zemlin meme [17:47] MinceR (on a related note, they can go stick their superheavy webshite where the sun doesn't shine) [17:47] schestowitz-TR with a tooth of gold [17:47] schestowitz-TR and one of platinum [17:47] schestowitz-TR linked to his sponsors [17:47] schestowitz-TR but it would be in bad taste [17:47] schestowitz-TR for people with tooth replacements [17:48] schestowitz-TR such humour would be hard to "chew".../ or "swallow"... [17:48] MinceR maybe they could put a notice on that piece of shit so i can know what sort of supercomputer it needs to run their superbloated javascript that is apparently necessary to render a bunch of static logos [17:48] bnchs__ websites made with weebly are the most heaviest websites i ever seen [17:48] schestowitz-TR what is weebly? [17:49] schestowitz-TR [17:43] No TechrightsBot-tr i dont want google shit as my primary OS. [17:49] bnchs__ weebly is a website builder [17:49] schestowitz-TR me neither [17:49] schestowitz-TR if that weakens Windows, and given crouton and crostini, we might be a step in a better direction [17:50] schestowitz-TR later people can replace google's bastardised 'linux' with a real thing [17:50] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.08 [17:50] bnchs__ not weebly [17:51] bnchs__ i was talking about wix [17:51] bnchs__ their websites are heavy as shit [17:51] TR News We need to detoxify the Internet in order for it to be useful again; at the moment the Web seems like almost a lost cause (for reasons we've noted many times before) and #GeminiSpace already provides a bit of a safe haven Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ #Techrights #WWW #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/news-on-the-internet/ [17:51] TR Bot Getting Accurate News on the Internet is Hard; From the Web Its Even Harder | Techrights [17:52] TR News Obviously nothing happened so far in 2022, except Linux FUD/hysteria; this is part of a longstanding pattern at #ZDNet because theyre being paid by companies with vested interests Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/zdnet-hysteria/ [17:52] TR Bot The World of Linux Through the Lens of ZDNet in 2022 | Techrights [17:52] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: I was gonna mention wix [17:52] bnchs__ they bought out deviantart (which at the time, was pretty lightweight) [17:52] schestowitz-TR look at info on their gpl dispute with wordpress [17:52] bnchs__ and turned it into a big fucking mess [17:52] schestowitz-TR they rip off gpl sofwtare I helped with in its early days [17:52] schestowitz-TR 2004-2007 [17:52] bnchs__ you can't run the site on a phone browser anymore [17:52] bnchs__ it will fucking crash [17:53] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wix.com#Use_of_WordPress_code [17:53] TR Bot Wix.com - Wikipedia [17:53] psydroid2 lol [17:53] schestowitz "" [17:53] schestowitz "In October 2016, there was a controversy over Wix's use of WordPress's GPL-licensed code.[40] In response, Avishai Abrahami, Wix's CEO, published an answer explaining which open-source code was used and how Wix collaborates with the open-source community.[41] However, it was subsequently noted that collaboration with the open-source community was not sufficient under the terms of the GPL license, which requires any code built on GPL-licensed code [17:53] schestowitz to be released under the same license.[42]" [17:53] bnchs__ yes [17:54] TR News The GNU/Linux userbase and the #Freesoftware community (as in, people who do it for ideological reasons, principles such as altruism, fun and sharing rather than purely for money) are being abandoned by the media Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ [17:54] TR Bot The C in CNX Software is Not Community | Techrights [17:55] bnchs__ ofc their transition of deviantart turning to a bloated website wasn't smooth [17:55] schestowitz-TR does deviantart have art yet? [17:55] bnchs__ they added the eclipse (bloated) theme at first [17:56] bnchs__ and allowed users to go back to the old theme [17:56] bnchs__ but then, they forced it on everyone, and removed the old theme entirely [17:56] techrights_guest|40 schestowitz-TR no just porn and furry porn... hahahahaha [17:56] schestowitz-TR haha [17:56] schestowitz-TR yeah [17:56] schestowitz-TR site for deviants on drugs [17:56] bnchs__ it's called (deviant)art [17:56] bnchs__ for a reason [17:57] bnchs__ i used to go to it for openbox themes [17:57] schestowitz-TR more catchy than "Wanking to bunnies" [17:57] schestowitz-TR yes [17:57] schestowitz-TR I was gonna mention [17:58] bnchs__ but then they locked the downloads up for users only [17:58] schestowitz-TR some decent gnu/linux desktop themes and icons were there [17:58] bnchs__ yes [17:58] schestowitz-TR but then came gnome-look and kde's [17:58] schestowitz-TR and those had higher s/n ratio [17:59] bnchs__ i found some cool openbox themes on gnome-look [17:59] bnchs__ but then it linked to deviantart [17:59] bnchs__ and then my CPU fan started blasting [17:59] schestowitz-TR kde's UI now links to these [17:59] schestowitz-TR from the interface [17:59] schestowitz-TR like if you add things, then narrow search by word ● Feb 17 [18:00] schestowitz-TR or ratings etc [18:00] schestowitz-TR they download an xml or similar [18:00] schestowitz-TR and then parse that instead of doing evertything from - well, dug - web browser [18:00] schestowitz-TR *duh [18:00] schestowitz-TR otherwise you need to do many things from the CLI, manually.. [18:00] schestowitz-TR which is an obsttacle I'm glad we overcame [18:01] schestowitz-TR same for fetching new wallpapers [18:01] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161573 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:01] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:02] bnchs__ sad [18:02] bnchs__ i registered on their site just so i could get a theme [18:02] bnchs__ it straight up asked me what am i gonna do on the site [18:02] bnchs__ what was i* [18:02] bnchs__ btw this was a throwaway account [18:10] *lukaso666 has quit (Quit: , !) [18:11] schestowitz-TR I have just caught up with the NSA chat [18:11] schestowitz-TR and then DNS [18:11] schestowitz-TR probably too late to reply to it now [18:11] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: not much benefit running dns from home [18:11] schestowitz-TR the ISP still sees what IP address you connect to [18:12] schestowitz-TR i think with udp and tcp/ip they cannot figure out which "port" [18:12] schestowitz-TR which is mostly an abstract thing [18:12] AdmFubar they should only have gone up to 11 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-warns-chrome-firefox-100-user-agents-may-break-sites/ [18:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-warns-chrome-firefox-100-user-agents-may-break-sites/ [18:12] TR Bot Mozilla warns Chrome, Firefox 100 user agents may break sites [18:12] schestowitz-TR also, smaller sites change dns entries a lot [18:12] schestowitz-TR 2 days ago BT remoately rebooted m,y router [18:12] schestowitz-TR I had to manually alter DNS for gemini to work [18:13] schestowitz-TR so it had downtime (ip mitmatch for a few minutes) [18:13] bnchs__ wtf is firefox 100 [18:13] schestowitz-TR if people ran dns from home downtime would be hours or days long [18:13] bnchs__ did it really reach 100 major versions [18:13] bnchs__ that's why it's always breaking [18:13] schestowitz-TR there was another thing I wanted to respond to but forgot [18:14] schestowitz-TR maybe it was about gdpr or drm [18:14] AdmFubar ff is at 91 or so... it is rapidly approaching 100 [18:14] schestowitz-TR but it's not important, it is an old topic now [18:16] schestowitz-TR 91 for esr [18:16] schestowitz-TR otherwise 97 iirc [18:16] schestowitz-TR or 96 [18:16] schestowitz-TR i wanted to say a bunch of things about how this dns debate is a decoy for mozilla [18:17] schestowitz-TR with their fake 'vpn privacy' they want all your paockets [18:17] schestowitz-TR and they want to be your isp with partners that are super-dodgy [18:17] schestowitz-TR dns is a tiny piece of a puzzle [18:17] psydroid2 what is their financial status? [18:17] schestowitz-TR with certificates you can undermine the isp doing dns imposter attacks [18:18] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: whose? [18:18] psydroid2 any ETA for when they are become insolvent [18:18] psydroid2 Mozilla Corporation and Foundation [18:18] schestowitz-TR I wanted to write tons of things [18:18] schestowitz-TR about things I did not agree with [18:18] schestowitz-TR I was doing exercise while catching up with irc [18:18] schestowitz-TR psydroid2: check irs [18:19] schestowitz https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/200097189 [18:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/200097189 [18:19] TR Bot Mozilla Foundation - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica [18:19] schestowitz-TR 2019 (filed 2020) was last [18:20] schestowitz-TR opening pdf now [18:20] schestowitz-TR whoa!!! [18:21] schestowitz-TR baker at over 4 million dollars as they say.. [18:21] schestowitz-TR it was 2 million befor [18:23] psydroid2 even though I don't like seeing Mozilla go down, they have sealed their fate by siding with the "devil" [18:26] bnchs__ mozilla corporation and foundation seems retarded [18:27] bnchs__ mozilla corporation so that they can do evil shit, foundation so that they can do good shit [18:27] techrights_guest|40 psydroid2 Mozilla Foundation "Internet For Profit Not People" [18:28] techrights_guest|40 And Corporation too. [18:37] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researcher-reverses-redaction-extracts-words-from-pixelated-image/ [18:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researcher-reverses-redaction-extracts-words-from-pixelated-image/ [18:37] TR Bot Researcher 'reverses' redaction, extracts words from pixelated image [18:38] techrights_guest|40 Well, anyways they are not Mozilla anymore, since some assholes successfully fired Brendan Eich (the fucking founder of that foundation/corporation) [18:38] *techrights_guest|40 has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [18:39] bnchs__ brendan eich was a dumbass anyway [18:39] bnchs__ i wouldn't have hired a guy who invented javascript [18:40] TR News #Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ #Techrights #WWW #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ [18:40] TR Bot Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations | Techrights [18:40] schestowitz-TR e^^ [18:41] bnchs__ "increased her salary" [18:41] bnchs__ so you mean giving herself more of the money [18:41] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:41] *techrights_guest|40 (~c9f386d3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] schestowitz-TR I thought you were going to correct that [18:41] schestowitz-TR when you quotsd it [18:42] schestowitz-TR like maybe I should call her "they" or something.. [18:42] schestowitz-TR SF, so who knows.. [18:42] techrights_guest|40 bnchs_ ? [18:42] schestowitz-TR nowadays you can get COC-arsewhipped [18:42] schestowitz-TR for calling a woman "she" [18:42] schestowitz-TR if she decided she is plural [18:43] techrights_guest|40 bnchs_ Why? [18:44] schestowitz-TR (this is not a joke) [18:44] bnchs__ i wouldn't have hire someone who invented a language with so much logic errors (mostly due to it being dynamically typed) [18:44] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/debian-social-contract/ [18:44] TR Bot Scientific Excellence and the Debian Social Contract | Techrights [18:45] schestowitz norbert got in trouble for it [18:45] schestowitz by the anti-harassment [sic] team of Debian [18:45] bnchs__ i'm not that retarded [18:45] schestowitz-TR byw, eich was not fired afaik [18:45] bnchs__ when a post calls her a her, i'll call her a her [18:45] schestowitz-TR he was removed from CEO position, or made to "resign" [18:45] schestowitz-TR he could probably stay in the company [18:46] schestowitz-TR but after such treatment would you even wish to stay? [18:46] schestowitz-TR not defending him [18:46] schestowitz-TR just saying he was not fired [18:46] schestowitz-TR and this upset many firefox users [18:46] schestowitz-TR these past few years they sold users [18:46] schestowitz-TR hence revenue increase [18:46] schestowitz-TR they are selling data and stuff [18:47] schestowitz-TR for money [18:47] schestowitz-TR they used the goodwill [18:47] schestowitz-TR and now 'cash in' on in [18:47] schestowitz-TR and this is not acceptable [18:47] schestowitz-TR the original company would be infuriated [18:48] techrights_guest|40 I know he resign, sorry for my bad English. [18:48] schestowitz-TR now he has a browser for cranksa [18:49] schestowitz-TR with fakecoins [18:49] schestowitz-TR a devout christaian value or whatnot [18:49] bnchs__ javascript is too bloated [18:49] schestowitz-TR they too are a market [18:49] schestowitz-TR the cranks [18:49] bnchs__ i would have perfered early 2000's javascript [18:49] bnchs__ or javascript before 2010 [18:49] psydroid2 or maybe no javascript [18:50] bnchs__ javascript is useful, just don't use it too much [18:50] bnchs__ treat it as a tool [18:50] schestowitz "Blake Ross, one of the original creators of Firefox (it was a fork of the Mozilla Suite, which sort of continues in a badly broken state as Seamonkey.Its no longer packaged by Debian or Ubuntu due to unfixed security flaws), ended up working at Facebook for several years, and then resigning to go work at Uber." [18:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/10/19/firefox-morals/ [18:50] TR Bot Firefox Becomes as Morally Reprehensible as Apple, Facebook, or Uber | Techrights [18:51] techrights_guest|40 schestowitz-TR yeah he resign for the pressure of some woke dumbfucks, but yeah he become lazy and greedy as hell with his new company Brave *and Browser [18:52] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/VlUqWBl.jpeg [18:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/VlUqWBl.jpeg [18:52] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [18:52] *bnchs (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:55] techrights_guest|40 Brave is just another chrome clone with privacy patches and stuff from Ungoogle Chromiun, and yeah, the crypto shit's. [18:57] MinceR and a native ad blocker [18:58] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [18:59] schestowitz-TR and cult of personalities (eich) [18:59] schestowitz "get brace, own the libs!" [18:59] schestowitz *brave [18:59] techrights_guest|40 @MincerR yeah i forget that, haha. ● Feb 17 [19:00] schestowitz-TR MinceR: maybe a 2pac fan? [19:00] schestowitz 2Pac - Only God Can Judge Me - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5gLoEBbZNis [19:00] TR Bot 2Pac - Only God Can Judge Me - Invidious [19:01] schestowitz-TR the www is quickly becoming: [19:01] bnchs own the libraries [19:01] schestowitz-TR 1. nginx [19:01] schestowitz-TR 2. nginc with something behind it, e.g. apache [19:01] schestowitz-TR 3. cdn [19:01] schestowitz-TR plus: [19:01] schestowitz-TR 1. chrome [19:01] schestowitz-TR 2. chromioum for the freedom-=deluded [19:02] schestowitz-TR 3. some kickoff of (2) with flavours [19:02] schestowitz-TR for microsoft or apple or eich lovers [19:02] schestowitz-TR 4. gulag-owned mozilla piece of crap [19:02] XRevan86 "1. nginx" <- Wrong, the containerisation of everything is eating the popularity away from nginx. [19:02] schestowitz-TR 5. kinockoff of (4) [19:02] XRevan86 Things like Caddy are the new hotness. [19:02] schestowitz-TR which contains a lot of the same crap, see (3) [19:03] MinceR schestowitz-TR: more of a fudge fan [19:03] XRevan86 nginx is simply the best no-nonsense server, nothing more to it. [19:03] schestowitz-TR MinceR: right, only fudge can judge me now [19:03] MinceR lol [19:04] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: i run nginx on my sbc now [19:04] schestowitz-TR it powers the gemini proxy/gateway [19:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Sounds like a good idea. [19:04] schestowitz-TR it was originally developed on openbsd [19:04] MinceR https://youtu.be/gRhB2Oiy0Nc?t=290 [19:04] TR Bot NO TITLE [19:04] schestowitz-TR (not my sbc) [19:04] MinceR he can judge you! [19:04] schestowitz-TR Techrights-sec: [19:05] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: the founder of nginx quit [19:05] schestowitz-TR nobody mentioned it [19:05] schestowitz-TR the media is dead [19:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: I heard actually [19:05] schestowitz-TR because you are in that niche [19:05] techrights_guest|40 schestowitz-TR yes, i believed in him (eich), but I see that he is not as good as they said... [19:05] schestowitz-TR db+web+server [19:06] schestowitz-TR msm said nothing [19:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@4n7438vpuhyci.irc) has joined #techrights [19:06] XRevan86 https://opennet.ru/56535 well, I'm subscribed to OpenNET. [19:06] TR Bot ??? ??? ??? ? ????? F5 Network ? ???? ??? NGINX [19:06] schestowitz-TR in russia, OpenNET subscribed to you [19:06] DaemonFC schestowitz, NordVPN's latest "Linux" client doesn't set the killswitch properly on boot. [19:07] DaemonFC You have to turn the killswitch off and on and then reconnect to a server. [19:07] schestowitz-TR PanamaVPN [19:07] schestowitz-TR sounds like a scma [19:07] schestowitz-TR like their banks [19:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: In Linus Tech Tips, OpenNET hacks the BIOS for YOU [19:07] bnchs proprietary software be like [19:07] bnchs who the fuck uses nordvpn unironically [19:08] schestowitz-TR people who think it is nordic [19:08] schestowitz-TR and now just a bunch of frauds like lee, who pretends to be "london" [19:08] bnchs any VPN sponsored by youtubers is shit [19:08] schestowitz-TR money down the "influencers"/.. [19:08] schestowitz-TR i.e.. drain [19:08] schestowitz-TR moral abyss [19:08] schestowitz-TR "first, a word from my sponsors.... [19:09] bnchs https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QBX84qLsjVo [19:09] TR Bot Google Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious [19:09] schestowitz-TR in my description you'll find a sea of links... followed by an actual summary full of typos" [19:09] bnchs i like how his "news" is sandwiched between 2 sponsors [19:09] schestowitz-TR (I get paid for the links, not for typography) [19:10] schestowitz-TR I saw some "privacy" channels that shilll STARTPAGE !! [19:10] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage [19:10] TR Bot Startpage - Techrights [19:10] schestowitz it's a cruel, cynical world out there [19:10] bnchs thats youtube for you [19:10] schestowitz I wanted to say a lot more about mozilla [19:10] bnchs they will shill anything that gives them money [19:10] schestowitz and forgot while cropping the PDFs [19:11] schestowitz that company became pure comedy [19:11] bnchs even if it's something so utterly embarrasing like manscape [19:11] bnchs this guy has both pateron and sponsors [19:11] schestowitz if they had 100,000,000 users and put a bounty of a data (e.g. browsing history) of each at $1 [19:11] schestowitz that's already enough to employ like 1000 well paid engineers [19:11] schestowitz in SF Bay Area [19:11] schestowitz but at what cost to the users... sorry, CUSTOMERS [19:12] schestowitz ? [19:12] schestowitz This is what sums up the company [19:12] schestowitz and why we should help users escape [19:12] schestowitz sadly, thunderbird would suffer [19:12] schestowitz imagine some poor sod in a develping country giving $10 to mozilla FOUNDATION [19:13] schestowitz feeling so garatified [19:13] schestowitz a whole day's salary [19:13] schestowitz and the jaw drops when the sod realises that some corporate lawyer for Gulag and "Meta" adds that $10 to a $3,000,000+ salary (per annum, tax free) [19:13] schestowitz not sure is ironic [19:14] schestowitz or a movie plot for Equalizer 3 [19:15] TR News #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161574 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:15] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:15] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:15] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [19:16] bnchs__ linux experiment: puts sponsors on the video, description, and comment [19:16] schestowitz-TR yes [19:16] schestowitz-TR nick [19:16] schestowitz-TR he got banned [19:16] bnchs__ on what channel [19:16] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155374#comment-30916 [19:16] TR Bot Google/YouTube Bans GNU/Linux Channel "The Linux Experiment", Some More Videos Published | Tux Machines [19:17] schestowitz-TR he was shilling some laptop [19:17] schestowitz-TR his channel can be OK, but too much shilling for my taste [19:17] schestowitz-TR still [19:17] schestowitz-TR like I said the other night in a video, [19:17] schestowitz-TR iot's not OK that gulag shills epstein's enabler bill gates [19:18] schestowitz-TR and that's "OK" [19:18] schestowitz-TR while laptop-peddling Linux channels get banned [19:18] schestowitz-TR says a lot about who runs the gulag [19:18] bnchs__ youtubers shill bill gates, that's OK [19:18] schestowitz-TR yes [19:18] schestowitz-TR bill is GOOD [19:18] schestowitz-TR he pays the gulag [19:18] schestowitz-TR to support women [19:18] schestowitz-TR in the gulag [19:18] schestowitz-TR #gatepartner [19:18] schestowitz-TR (no, he didn't pay me) [19:19] bnchs__ gulag? [19:19] schestowitz-TR google inc [19:19] bnchs__ do you mean he pays the influncers? [19:19] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag:_A_History [19:19] TR Bot Gulag: A History - Wikipedia [19:19] bnchs__ yes i know about gulag [19:19] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/01/01/google-goolag-or-gulag/ [19:19] bnchs__ but #gatespartner videos was actually bill bribing youtubers [19:19] TR Bot In 2022 We Should Quit Calling it Google and Explain What It Has Really Become: Gulag (Goolag) | Techrights [19:20] schestowitz i got siik and tired of them last year [19:20] schestowitz partly because of some sick shill [19:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/ [19:20] TR Bot Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights [19:21] TR News #cisco #proprietarySofrware "A remote attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial-of-service condition." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/17/cisco-releases-security-updates-email-security-appliance [19:21] TR Bot Cisco Releases Security Updates for Email Security Appliance | CISA [19:22] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:22] techrights_guest|40 Bill Gates is mentally disable. [19:23] TR News "A reporter interviews a #Uyghur #humanrights advocate, and uses the Otter.ai transcription app." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/possible-government-surveillance-of-the-otter-ai-transcription-app.html [19:23] TR Bot Government Surveillance of the Otter.ai Transcription App - Schneier on Security [19:24] bnchs__ ".ai" [19:24] bnchs__ meme tld [19:24] TR News #KaliLinux 2022.1 overview | The most advanced Penetration Testing Distribution - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k-J1UG6kttM #video #invidious #gnu #linux [19:24] TR Bot Kali Linux 2022.1 overview | The most advanced Penetration Testing Distribution - Invidious [19:24] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: hey hi [19:26] TR News NSA won't tell you to discard Cisco altogether as #NSA controls #Cisco https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/17/nsa-best-practices-selecting-cisco-password-types [19:26] TR Bot NSA Best Practices for Selecting Cisco Password Types | CISA [19:27] TR News Edit text on Linux with #KWrite and Kate | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/edit-text-linux-kde #FreeSW #GNU #Linux [19:27] TR Bot text on Linux with KWrite and Kate | Opensource.com [19:27] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, NordVPN added something to their Windows client. [19:28] DaemonFC It keeps popping up a box pestering users to go on autopay. [19:28] DaemonFC Meanwhile, they add bugs to the Linux one each release. [19:29] schestowitz-TR they're not adding bugs [19:29] schestowitz-TR they ARE bugs [19:29] schestowitz-TR and you give them all your packets [19:29] schestowitz-TR to panama [19:29] schestowitz-TR and who knows who will get this trove one day [19:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Apparently, the fine from the IRS for not issuing 1099s in a timely fashion is $50 per day per account, to the person who should have issued them. [19:29] bnchs__ DaemonFC: they want autopay for a reason [19:30] DaemonFC From as widespread as this issue seems to be with Holdup, that's going to be some major fines.' [19:30] bnchs__ so that you forget about your VPN subscription and then you realize your bank account is empty [19:30] bnchs__ don't even go on autopay [19:30] bnchs__ ever* [19:30] DaemonFC If the IRS talks to me about a math error or something, my reply is going to be "I did the best I could given that Uphold is in violation of the deadline for issuing 1099 forms.". [19:31] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/cherish-the-use.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/you-dont-know-what-you-got-til-its-gone/ ) [19:31] TR Bot You dont know what you got til its gone [19:31] DaemonFC I think my math is right though. If it isn't, it'll be plus or minus a dollar or two of income, which would not affect my taxes owed anyway. [19:32] TR News #pfSense 2.6 Released, ZFS Is Now the Default File System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161474#comment-32853 [19:32] TR Bot pfSense Plus version 22.01 and pfSense CE version 2.6.0 Software are Now Available | Tux Machines [19:32] DaemonFC Mom said that they got IRS letters all the time when she was with mom and Gonad and Dave. [19:32] techrights_guest|40 TechrightsBot-tr yup, Kali Linux best distro for test anal penetration to your systems and networks. [19:32] TR News Arthur Wesley Dows Floating World: *Composition* (1905 edition) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dow-composition/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain [19:32] TR Bot Arthur Wesley Dows Floating World: *Composition* (1905 edition) The Public Domain Review [19:32] DaemonFC They'd just send out letters saying "We owe you $100. Here." or "You owe us $300. How do you want to pay it?". [19:33] DaemonFC They're almost never interested in pursuing something beyond this level unless it's obvious you were trying to pull some dastardly scheme. [19:33] DaemonFC *with dad [19:33] schestowitz-TR pay with fakecoin [19:33] DaemonFC Of course, she's extremely sloppy on her taxes and she's never not in trouble with the IRS. [19:33] schestowitz-TR for your fakevpn [19:34] DaemonFC But they just slap levies on her and get the money and then same time next year. [19:34] DaemonFC They never send her to prison, and sometimes it's a lot of money too. [19:34] DaemonFC At one point, she owed them over $16,000. [19:34] *bnchs (~bnchs@2msmxnhufithq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:34] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:34] schestowitz KING CPU Michael https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Roadmap-2022-Fin-Day https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OSPray-Studio-0.10 [19:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Roadmap-2022-Fin-Day [19:34] TR Bot Updates Roadmap For Arc Graphics, Sapphire Rapids, Falcon Shores - Phoronix [19:34] TR Bot OSPray Studio 0.10 Open-Source, Interactive Visualization Software Updated - Phoronix [19:34] *techrights_guest|40 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [19:35] bnchs windows would be like cartman saying he doesn't have an anal probe, and then a big ass satellite pops out of his ass [19:35] schestowitz "briefcase with "CORE" on its way, Fatima" [19:35] DaemonFC There's no point in turning over people to the US Attorney when it's just money like this. That costs the government money. If you leave them alone and let them work, you'll get it eventually. [19:36] TR News Of course #intel has outsourced #OSPray to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware ... see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [19:36] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [19:37] TR News Today Larabel runs 'ads' for #intel ... with no connection to Linux. Last paragraph: "More details on today's announcements at Intel.com." Is this an article or ad? Hard to tell anymore... http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [19:37] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [19:38] bnchs https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/28/suicide-hotline-silicon-valley-privacy-debates-00002617 [19:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: politico.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/28/suicide-hotline-silicon-valley-privacy-debates-00002617 [19:38] TR Bot hotline shares data with for-profit spinoff, raising ethical questions - POLITICO [19:39] TR News So #Linode is now owned by a company that spreads FUD about #freesw .... you have my sympathies if you're a Linode client. Consider alternatives... [19:40] bnchs "Those disclosure terms also note that Metas Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp services can access the content of conversations taking place through those platforms. (Before this article was published, Meta confirmed that it has access to that data but says it does not use any of it, except for cases involving risk of imminent harm. After publication, WhatsApp clarified that it and Meta have no access to the contents of messages occurring vi [19:40] bnchs a WhatsApp.)" [19:40] schestowitz bnchs: http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/ [19:40] TR Bot Crisis Text Line, a Charity Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | Techrights [19:41] DaemonFC Stallman is actually wrong about IRS audits. They do focus on wealthy people. [19:41] schestowitz source? [19:41] DaemonFC They also hit up people who claim credits with high percentages of abuse. [19:41] schestowitz propublica claimed the opposite [19:41] schestowitz buyt propublica also took bribes from bill gates [19:41] DaemonFC The EITC, while claimed by people who are poor, is also a highly abused credit. [19:41] schestowitz based on https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [19:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: cjr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [19:41] TR Bot Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [19:42] DaemonFC The IRS says statistically, 46% of all tax returns that claim EITC have some sort of major error on them. [19:42] DaemonFC That's why Congress passed a law that delays your tax return and automagically has the IRS computer calculate if you got the credit right. [19:42] DaemonFC But making over $100,000 also doubles your risk of an audit. [19:43] DaemonFC Since automated EITC audits count as an audit, your risk is relatively severe if you claim EITC that year or make over $100,000. [19:43] DaemonFC The IRS can also audit up to six years back if you made a major misrepresentation of income, which is almost certainly going to affect people with lots of income more often. [19:44] DaemonFC For most people, it's three years. [19:44] DaemonFC So the window of exposure if you make a lot of money is twice as long, with twice the risk of any particular year being called up. [19:44] DaemonFC The IRS doesn't audit a high percentage of returns though. [19:45] DaemonFC In the last decade it went from 1% of all returns in 2010, to about 0.4%-0.5% on average recently, and in 2020 it was 0.25% since COVID chased them out of the office. [19:45] DaemonFC But they're back, so I expect it'll return to normal as soon as they clear the backlog. [19:46] DaemonFC But out of those half a percent or so, a person not claiming the EITC or making a lot of money is probably at a 0.1% chance of any particular year being called up. [19:46] DaemonFC With an exposure of the trailing three years. [19:46] TR News #PipeWire 0.3.46 Released https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/tags/0.3.46 #ibm #redhat [19:46] TR Bot 0.3.46 Tags PipeWire / pipewire GitLab [19:47] DaemonFC Most people who simply make a small mistake or don't claim abusive credits, have very little chance of an IRS audit. It happens. I think Stallman's argument should be that it doesn't happen often enough to keep some people honest. [19:48] TR News #freesw would help the planet https://blogs.fsfe.org/pboddie/?p=2496 see http://techrights.org/2022/01/24/proprietary-is-pollution/ [19:48] TR Bot Some thoughts about technological sustainability Paul Boddie's Free Software-related blog [19:48] DaemonFC If they weren't off trying to implement facial recognition software, I wonder how much of their budget would be freed up. [19:48] TR Bot Proprietary Software is Pollution | Techrights [19:48] *AdmFubar has quit (connection closed) [19:48] DaemonFC schestowitz, Stallman should talk about ID.me and how the IRS is trying to impose that to get at your tax records, and how it can't tell black and Asian people apart. [19:49] DaemonFC That's a major issue going on at the IRS, and it's technology, and it's spyware/surveillance. [19:49] TR News #AccessNow thinks #ZDNet is a legit source??? Maybe it was... 2 decades ago. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [19:49] TR Bot ZDNet - Techrights [19:49] DaemonFC And they can access state license databases whether you have REAL ID or not, so there's pretty much no reason to try to impose it. [19:49] DaemonFC Yet, they do. [19:50] DaemonFC Many of those rioters at the Capitol were tracked down using license databases from states where REAL ID is an option, or outlawed at the state level. [19:50] DaemonFC :) [19:50] TR News #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161575 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:50] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:50] DaemonFC Obviously, the licenses we have are "good enough" to do that. [19:50] DaemonFC So what's with REAL ID? [19:50] DaemonFC bbiab [19:51] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [19:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:53] schestowitz trollling https://lateweb.info/why-is-linux-so-bad-and-window-11-better-in-every-single-way/?pk_campaign=feed&pk_kwd=why-is-linux-so-bad-and-window-11-better-in-every-single-way [19:53] TR Bot Why Is Linux So Bad And Window 11 Better In Every Single Way? [19:53] schestowitz "Going on and maybe in conclusion I want to say that Linux is a unique operating system when you want to make a server or something super secure, but for ordinary people today as a desktop graphical environment Linux just is not worth even for no money." [19:54] schestowitz Taking screenshots of terminal [19:54] schestowitz with ascii art [19:54] schestowitz yeah... gnu/linux is just some ascii stickfigure [19:54] schestowitz real apt [19:54] XRevan86 qpwgraph oh cool. [19:54] schestowitz tempted to say "troll" here [19:57] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161576 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:57] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:58] TR News More Developers Should Use Linux. Not Sure Why They Dont! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161577 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:58] TR Bot More Developers Should Use Linux. Not Sure Why They Dont! | Tux Machines [19:59] TR News "When we need a controller of best choice, Arduino Series is best choise as it has a wide community helping new users. When you use external devices or sensors, you will need to be aware of Arduino Uno Pinout." https://peppe8o.com/arduino-uno-pinout-pins-defining/ [19:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/arduino-uno-pinout-pins-defining/ [19:59] TR Bot Arduino UNO Pinout: PINS Defining [19:59] schestowitz https://www.fosslife.org/meeting-free-days-and-other-tips-productivity [19:59] TR Bot Meeting-Free Days and Other Tips for Productivity [19:59] schestowitz " [19:59] schestowitz Time spent in unnecessary meetings is killing creativity and inspiration for many of us, says Katie Sanders. [19:59] schestowitz This article offers expert advice for clearing your calendar and improving productivity, such as eliminating recurring meetings, keeping meetings short and small, or making an entire day meeting free [19:59] schestowitz " ● Feb 17 [20:00] schestowitz make them all meeting-free [20:00] schestowitz and get rid of the people who organise the meetings [20:00] schestowitz they usually do nothing of value anyway [20:00] schestowitz just draining company budget [20:01] TR News While laying off many workers the CEO of #Mozilla piled up a lot of tax-exempt cash, and it continued to increase in spite of criticism (the above isnt even the latest; it may be a lot more by now) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ #Techrights #www #firefox | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/17/mozilla-salaries/ [20:01] TR Bot Mozilla CEO Increased Her Salary From 2.5 Million Dollars to Over 3 Million in One Year (10+ Times More Than Her Peers Salaries) Despite Poor Performance and They Still Want Donations | Techrights [20:03] TR News "This large pull request hopes to solve segfault at cleanup and problems with multiple charsets in multiple connections to Oracle." http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/02/please-help-test-big-pull-request-for-dbdoracle.html #deletegithub first; don't compel people to create #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (vendor lock-in, spying) accounts [20:03] TR Bot help test big pull request for DBD::Oracle | dean [blogs.perl.org] [20:03] TR News PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL #JDBC 42.3.3 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-4233-released-2410/ #postgresql [20:03] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.3 Released [20:03] bnchs "big pull request" [20:03] bnchs does it use rust [20:03] bnchs i hope not [20:04] TR News How to kill communities: "All complaints, actions, and statistics are anonymized and aggregated to protect the identities of all parties involved." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-community-code-of-conduct-committee-annual-report-for-2021-2406/ http://techrights.org/2020/01/03/linux-kernel-code-of-conduct-committee/ [20:04] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Community Code of Conduct Committee Annual Report for 2021 [20:04] TR Bot The Linux Foundations Linux Kernel Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee is Now Officially Corporate | Techrights [20:07] TR News "Two weeks later, three of four peeps in my home have had it. One person has managed to avoid the virus. While none of us were really sick, its been real slow to entirely recover." https://euroquis.nl//blabla/2022/02/17/delay.html [20:07] TR Bot Some Delays | [bobulate] [20:08] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/life-is-unavailable.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/make-life-available-for-everyone/ ) [20:09] TR Bot Make life available for everyone! [20:09] TR News This Triple-Screen #RaspberryPi Kid's PC Packs a Lot of Tech Into a Custom Walnut Case https://www.hackster.io/news/this-triple-screen-raspberry-pi-kid-s-pc-packs-a-lot-of-tech-into-a-custom-walnut-case-9cc73922796f #gnu #linux [20:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: hackster.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hackster.io/news/this-triple-screen-raspberry-pi-kid-s-pc-packs-a-lot-of-tech-into-a-custom-walnut-case-9cc73922796f [20:09] TR Bot Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi Kid's PC Packs a Lot of Tech Into a Custom Walnut Case - Hackster.io [20:10] *immibis_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:10] *immibis (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-139-245.89.204.139.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.26 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.11 [20:11] TR News #Databases: pgBackRest 2.37, CoC, JDBC, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161578 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:11] TR Bot Databases: pgBackRest 2.37, CoC, JDBC, and More | Tux Machines [20:12] TR News SPAN du jour: "CNXSoft: This is a guest post by Renato Kiss, Product Manager" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/17/iot-device-monitoring-as-a-product-reliability-improvement-tool/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/17/cnxsoftware-partly-compromised/ [20:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/17/iot-device-monitoring-as-a-product-reliability-improvement-tool/ [20:12] TR Bot IoT device monitoring as a product reliability improvement tool - CNX Software [20:12] TR Bot The C in CNX Software is Not Community | Techrights [20:20] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:21] *immibis has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:22] *immibis_ (~hexchat@dynamic-089-204-139-245.89.204.139.pool.telefonica.de) has joined #techrights [20:23] *verbose (~verbose@xm5z894qxaqia.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] *superkuh has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:39] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [20:58] *superkuh has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Feb 17 [21:00] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [21:05] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:08] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:11] AdmFubar big pull request sounds a bit off color... [21:18] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [21:33] *l0de has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:33] *l0de (sid31830@id-31830.ilkley.irccloud.com) has joined #techrights [21:33] *huggi has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [21:35] *huggi (sid80718@joseon/user/huggi) has joined #techrights [21:51] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 75.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 270.13 [21:52] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/Ddb5DQj.jpeg [21:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Ddb5DQj.jpeg [21:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yujf5fje6ygfk.irc) has joined #techrights [21:56] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/nordvpn-merges-with-surfshark-breaks-the-linux-client-again-starts-harassing-windows-users-to-go-on-autopay/ [21:56] TR Bot NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the Linux client again. Starts harassing Windows users to go on autopay. BaronHK's Rants ● Feb 17 [22:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, I laughed at that "tip your landlord" thing. [22:05] DaemonFC No option to even opt-out on the payment site. You have to click Custom Tip and then enter $0.00 every month. [22:05] DaemonFC "Donate more money than the rent to your landlord?" Default: 25% [22:16] *bnchs (~bnchs@2zmaaivhm5w7e.irc) has joined #techrights [22:24] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [22:24] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:29] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/no-conservatives.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/10/i-was-looking-for-a-more-libertarian-drink/ ) [22:29] TR Bot I was looking for a more libertarian drink [22:35] schestowitz MinceR: so no manchin in it [22:36] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:38] TR News Like Father, Like Son: How the #Trudeau Manufacture Crises to Justify Emergency Measures https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/like-father-like-son-how-the-trudeaus-manufacture-crises-to-justify-emergency-measures/ #canada [22:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: unlimitedhangout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/02/investigative-reports/like-father-like-son-how-the-trudeaus-manufacture-crises-to-justify-emergency-measures/ [22:38] TR Bot Like Father, Like Son: How the Trudeaus Manufacture Crises to Justify "Emergency Measures" [22:39] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@gti7y64ngicmn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:39] TR News #Gulag Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QBX84qLsjVo #video #invidious [22:39] TR Bot Google Analytics is illegal, Weird Chrome OS Flex, and Proton 7 - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious [22:40] TR News " #SXIV is an amazing image viewer from the suckless style of apps but it's been left by the way side and abandoned luckily a few devs wanted to keep it around and now with have SXIV the Neo Simple X Image Viewer." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocwuA9Cs8RA [22:40] TR Bot NSXIV: The Only Image Viewer You Need - Invidious [22:42] TR News Modifying expectations! https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Modifying-expectation setting expectation very low by choosing #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #github for #outreachy [22:42] TR Bot Modifying expectations! [22:45] TR News "Many musicians will be familiar with the metronome, a pendulum charged with generating a rhythmic tick to keep ones performance in regular time. With PendulumSynth, [mrezanvari] takes the same basic pendulum but uses it in an altogether different musical way." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/pendulumsynth-ties-music-and-physics-together/ [22:45] TR Bot Ties Music And Physics Together | Hackaday [22:46] TR News #Arduino project: Sending #MIDI Wirelessly With The NRF24L01 | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/sending-midi-wirelessly-with-the-nrf24l01/ [22:46] TR Bot MIDI Wirelessly With The NRF24L01 | Hackaday [22:47] TR News " #camera also supports the Xavier NX dev kit equipped with the similarly Linux-driven #Jetson TX2 NX module." https://linuxgizmos.com/8mp-hdr-cameras-available-in-usb-and-csi-flavors/ [22:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/8mp-hdr-cameras-available-in-usb-and-csi-flavors/ [22:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/8mp-hdr-cameras-available-in-usb-and-csi-flavors/ ) [22:48] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [22:48] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [22:50] TR News #EasyOS cifs-utils fix plus JWM drives menu tweaks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32854 #gnu #linux [22:50] TR Bot EasyOS version 3.4 released | Tux Machines [22:55] TR News "With the proliferation of cheap laser modules, it is really worth scrapping a headlight? Maybe. But it is an interesting look inside of a modern headlight, either way. Weve peeked inside these headlights before. Maybe you can turn those old headlights into an oven." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/high-power-laser-salvaged-from-headlights/ [22:55] TR Bot Laser Salvaged From Headlights | Hackaday [22:55] TR News Videos: NSXIV, Kali Linux 2022.1, Linux Action News, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161579 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:55] TR Bot Videos: NSXIV, Kali Linux 2022.1, Linux Action News, and More | Tux Machines [22:56] TR News Contextual Policies & LAN Protection (ABE Quantum) in NoScript 11.3! https://hackademix.net/2022/02/17/contextual-policies-lan-protection-abe-quantum-in-noscript-113/ #NoScript #mozilla #firefox [22:56] TR Bot Contextual Policies & LAN Protection (ABE Quantum) in NoScript 11.3! [22:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:57] TR News "In a previous article, I showed you how to detect third-party vulnerabilities in Python. This article shows how to scan your #Java code for the same issues." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/find-java-vulnerabilities #programming #security [22:57] TR Bot How to find third-party vulnerabilities in your Java code | Enable Sysadmin [22:58] TR News The Electrifying Debate Around Where #Lightning Comes From | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/the-electrifying-debate-around-where-lightning-comes-from/ #hackaday #science [22:58] TR Bot Electrifying Debate Around Where Lightning Comes From | Hackaday [22:59] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Feb 17 [23:01] TR News "This initiative is working on #CentOS Stream/Emerging #RHEL to make this new distribution a reality. The goal of this initiative is to prepare the ecosystem for the new CentOS Stream." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-february-14th-18th/ [23:01] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update Week of February 14th 18th Fedora Community Blog [23:02] TR News While #vmware runs a #hateCampaign against #linux the #ibm #redhat folks posted this https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-create-vmware-vm-template-red-hat-satellite see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ [23:02] TR Bot How to create a VMWare VM template for Red Hat Satellite [23:02] TR Bot Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against Linux (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | Techrights [23:03] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: MIDI Hacking, Arduino, Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161580 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:03] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: MIDI Hacking, Arduino, Triple-Screen Raspberry Pi, and More | Tux Machines [23:04] psydroid8 proprietary software companies helping other proprietary software companies [23:04] schestowitz-TR yep [23:04] schestowitz-TR redhat: linux not secure [23:05] schestowitz-TR buy support [23:05] schestowitz-TR upgrade to the next rhel [23:05] schestowitz-TR buy security alerts [23:05] schestowitz-TR (upselliing) [23:05] TR News #FPGA Starter Videos To Help Soften That Learning Curve | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/17/fpga-starter-videos-to-help-soften-that-learning-curve/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/17/#latest [23:05] TR Bot Starter Videos To Help Soften That Learning Curve | Hackaday [23:05] psydroid8 they know they have to stand together if they don't want to be annihilated by the free software juggernaut [23:05] TR Bot Social Control Media Posts [23:05] psydroid8 rhel for running oracle [23:06] schestowitz-TR testing: http://lxer.com [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lxer.com [23:06] psydroid8 well no, there is free Oracle Linux for that [23:06] schestowitz-TR i this a dns problem in europe? [23:06] schestowitz-TR or is this domain unregistered everywhere? [23:06] psydroid8 so no revenue for red hat [23:06] schestowitz-TR since more than 24 hours ago? [23:07] psydroid8 seems parked or gone [23:07] schestowitz-TR it suggests they did not renew their domain [23:07] schestowitz-TR ok, the bot above is in trumpland [23:07] schestowitz-TR california [23:07] schestowitz-TR not sure what it got [23:07] schestowitz-TR from here (two PCs) it's always a non-site [23:07] schestowitz-TR parked template [23:08] psydroid8 or did they go out of business? [23:08] schestowitz-TR not sure [23:08] schestowitz-TR something suggests they still posted [23:08] schestowitz-TR so I suspect something more subtle is happening [23:08] schestowitz-TR like out of synch DNS somewhere [23:08] psydroid8 they wouldn't let this slip for 24 hours or more [23:09] TR News "The Raptor Lake processor family is the 13th generation of Intel Core, which is scheduled for launch later this year." https://optocrypto.com/intel-core-raptor-lake-gets-advanced-linux-support/ but #intel loves #nsa and hates #linux based on leaks: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [23:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: optocrypto.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://optocrypto.com/intel-core-raptor-lake-gets-advanced-linux-support/ [23:09] TR Bot Intel Core "Raptor Lake" gets advanced Linux support [23:09] TR Bot Intel leaks - Techrights [23:10] schestowitz-TR psydroid8: they are a big site [23:10] schestowitz-TR I wrote about this publicly several times already [23:11] psydroid8 someone should have picked up on it by now, if they are aware [23:11] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/InCaseYouMisse2/status/1494408024689020940#m [23:11] TR Bot In Case You Missed It (@InCaseYouMisse2): "techrights.org/2020/08/16/bi" | nitter [23:11] schestowitz-TR well, you might say [23:11] schestowitz-TR that I ought not care [23:11] schestowitz-TR as in some sense they are "competition" [23:12] schestowitz-TR but still [23:12] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161581 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:12] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:12] TR News #BlueMail is available in #Zenwalk http://www.zenwalk.org/2022/02/bluemail-is-available-in-zenwalk.html #gnu #linux [23:12] TR Bot Zenwalk GNU Linux: BlueMail is available in Zenwalk [23:13] psydroid8 it's a complete breakdown of advertising supported journalism [23:13] psydroid8 advertisement* [23:13] psydroid8 do we even want that kind of news? [23:13] TR News "This is an update to the original #Dockershim Deprecation FAQ article, published in late 2020." https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/02/17/dockershim-faq/ one day it's there... and then... it's GONE! OSPS. #kubernetes [23:14] TR Bot Updated: Dockershim Removal FAQ | Kubernetes [23:14] psydroid8 you can see what it has led to [23:14] schestowitz-TR does lxer do ads? [23:14] schestowitz-TR I never saw any [23:14] schestowitz-TR let me check lxer from other location... though the sites that I used to exploit for that are long gone [23:14] psydroid8 I don't think so, but I'm not sure [23:15] psydroid8 still what journalism is still left? [23:16] psydroid8 I think geminI aggregators are going to be more useful [23:17] psydroid8 geeks to other geeks, experts to other experts [23:18] schestowitz https://www.ebool.com/alternatives/browsershots [23:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: ebool.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ebool.com/alternatives/browsershots [23:18] TR Bot 14 Browsershots Alternatives & Similar Services - eBool [23:18] schestowitz-TR the site I used about 15 years ago is dea [23:18] schestowitz-TR no business model [23:19] schestowitz https://www.browserling.com/browse/win/7/ie/11/http%3A%2F%2Flxer.com [23:19] TR Bot - Live interactive cross-browser testing [23:20] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [23:22] psydroid8 if it isn't back in a day or so, it's probably dead [23:22] TR News #Valve clarifies how they test Native Linux or Proton for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/valve-clarifies-how-they-test-native-linux-or-proton-for-steam-deck/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [23:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/valve-clarifies-how-they-test-native-linux-or-proton-for-steam-deck/ [23:22] TR Bot clarifies how they test Native Linux or Proton for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [23:22] schestowitz-TR psydroid8: it is more complex than this [23:22] schestowitz-TR as something suggests they still update it [23:22] schestowitz-TR but dns does not point at the right server [23:23] TR News Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 2 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-3-rc-2 #godotengine #deletegithub [23:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-3-rc-2 [23:23] TR Bot Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.3 RC 2 [23:23] psydroid8 cracked or misconfigured dns? [23:23] TR News What sane person would wish to outsource such data to #gulag even for a "discount"? YOU are the product. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/google-nest-thermostat/ [23:23] TR Bot Save $30 on a Google Nest Thermostat - Make Tech Easier [23:24] TR News Retiring #Clutter - Clutter Project https://blogs.gnome.org/clutter/2022/02/16/retiring-clutter/ #GNOME #GNU #Linux #GTK [23:24] TR Bot Retiring Clutter Clutter Project [23:25] bnchs https://github.com/DesktopECHO/Pi-hole-for-Android [23:25] TR Bot - DesktopECHO/Pi-hole-for-Android: Pi-hole + Unbound for Android The DNS Ad-blocker for Raspberry Pi also works great in Android! Linux Deploy image for rooted Android 4.0.3+ ARM devices. [23:25] bnchs pi hole hosting in an android phone [23:26] bnchs the "app" that it uses requires android lollipop (5.0) [23:26] TR News #Slax Proves You Cant Keep a Good Linux Distri http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161563#comment-32855bution Down [23:26] TR Bot Good News! Debian-based Lightweight Linux Distro Slax is Still Alive | Tux Machines [23:27] psydroid8 I wonder how expensive a replacement board for an existing phone would be [23:27] *SkywaveC3 (~SkywaveC3@geta5bxg5ug98.irc) has joined #techrights [23:28] TR News #NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the #GNU #Linux ; client again. Starts harassing #Windows users to go on autopay. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/nordvpn-merges-with-surfshark-breaks-the-linux-client-again-starts-harassing-windows-users-to-go-on-autopay/ #baronhk [23:28] TR Bot NordVPN merges with SurfShark, breaks the Linux client again. Starts harassing Windows users to go on autopay. BaronHK's Rants [23:28] *Skywave has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:28] psydroid8 the thing with phones is that they are produced in the millions, so cost can remain low [23:29] TR News "In this video, we are looking at how to install #Minetest on #ZorinOS 16." #freesw and better than #microsoft #minecraft (IIRC also predates it) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V-PRQ_fjJi4 [23:29] TR Bot How to install Minetest on Zorin OS 16 - Invidious [23:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I called the police on the non-emergency number to file a report. Those energy scammers are back. [23:30] psydroid8 time and effort invested in Minecraft is lost [23:30] DaemonFC Sometimes they just want to do electricity fraud and sometimes they invade your home and steal things and rape women and stuff. [23:32] bnchs minetest was in 2010 [23:32] bnchs about 1 year after minecraft or something [23:32] schestowitz-TR was there a prior incarnation? [23:33] schestowitz-TR or maybe another "craft" thing [23:33] schestowitz-TR such an ugly game [23:33] schestowitz-TR looks like 1990s [23:33] schestowitz-TR why did it catch on? [23:33] schestowitz-TR even duke nuken looks better [23:33] bnchs yes [23:33] schestowitz-TR *kem [23:33] bnchs if you count roblox (2004) and blockland (2003?) [23:35] TR News #KDE or #Krita artist Ken Vermette (kver):"This Saturday (Feb 19th) from 12:00pm to ~4:00pm EST Ill be livestreaming preliminary work on the Plasma 5.25 wallpaper, as well as a brainstorming session for possible directions the Plasma 6 wallpapers could go. Iconography might also be a thing." https://kver.ca/2022/02/streaming-this-saturday/ [23:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: kver.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kver.ca/2022/02/streaming-this-saturday/ [23:35] TR Bot Streaming this Saturday Ken Vermette [23:35] bnchs s/2004/2006/ [23:35] bnchs s/2003/2004/ [23:36] TR News This is an ISC command, not "LINUX" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3649730/using-the-linux-host-command-to-dig-out-dns-details.html [23:36] TR Bot Using the Linux host command to dig out DNS details | Network World [23:36] bnchs "Linux commands" [23:36] bnchs holy shit Linux has no commands [23:36] TR News We are NOT "helping" people by calling "the whole thing" just Linux. We are CONFUSING people. [23:38] TR News #Linux is just a #kernel ; this is #linuxutil (not kernel) https://bytexd.com/linux-whereis-command/ [23:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: bytexd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bytexd.com/linux-whereis-command/ [23:38] TR Bot Whereis Command - ByteXD [23:39] TR News Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/ #Techrights #GNU #FSF #history #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/ [23:39] TR Bot Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | Techrights [23:39] bnchs richard stallman? [23:39] bnchs those commands are linux property [23:39] TR News GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #revisionism | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/ [23:40] TR Bot GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights [23:40] schestowitz-TR bnchs: so RMS stole from torvalds [23:40] schestowitz-TR when torvalds was 13 [23:40] schestowitz-TR he copied Linux work ;0) [23:40] bnchs when RMS was 10 he stole my lunch money and bought a sandwich [23:40] psydroid8 Linux commands and conquers our hearts and minds [23:41] TR News #Games: Mechajammer, 86Box, Godot, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161582 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:41] TR Bot Games: Mechajammer, 86Box, Godot, and More | Tux Machines [23:42] schestowitz-TR "no way this man calkled stallman made Linux" [23:42] schestowitz-TR "because I checked wikipedia and it said Linux was created in Finland" [23:42] schestowitz-TR [that's why RMS asks people to use the correct naming] [23:42] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:43] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:44] TR News "Every few weeks, it seems like I suddenly get the urge to do some bash scripting. And today was one of those days. I was at the office and wanted to listen to some online radio, and I thought: what I need is to create a #dmenu script for this!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZBNrHaHK3gM #gnu #linux [23:44] psydroid8 Linux is a Finnish operating system hijacked by Americans who forcibly inserted GNU elements into it [23:44] TR Bot Bash Script For Listening To Online Radio - Invidious [23:44] psydroid8 rewrite history in America [23:45] schestowitz-TR followed by some ad hominem [23:45] *bnchs (~bnchs@2zmaaivhm5w7e.irc) has joined #techrights [23:45] schestowitz-TR BTW, the other day I linked to the site oif own leblanc [23:45] schestowitz-TR I worked with him in MCC [23:45] schestowitz-TR he was the maker of the first distro [23:45] schestowitz-TR he combined gnu and linux [23:45] schestowitz-TR as a phd student here iirc [23:45] schestowitz-TR no fame for him [23:46] bnchs bill gates also combined msdos and windows [23:46] schestowitz http://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/ [23:46] TR Bot Owen Le Blanc's Home Page [23:49] TR News What's coming in #GoLang 1.18 [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/883602/ #LWN [23:49] TR Bot coming in Go 1.18 [LWN.net] [23:52] psydroid8 is he still there or is that page frozen in time? [23:52] schestowitz-TR frozen [23:52] schestowitz-TR I am surprised this domain still works [23:53] schestowitz-TR that page looked the same when I was about 20 [23:53] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:53] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:54] TR News Raw photo editing with RawTherapee Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161583 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:54] TR Bot Raw photo editing with RawTherapee | Tux Machines [23:54] TR News #PinePhone: trying out a Linux-based smartphone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161584 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:54] TR Bot PinePhone: trying out a Linux-based smartphone | Tux Machines [23:57] MinceR there are many Linux-based smartphones [23:58] bnchs they can't say GNU/Linux [23:58] TR News They're conflating Linux with various tools that have nothing to do with Linux and were not made specifically for that kernel https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-process-management/ [23:58] TR Bot Linux Process Management: The Ultimate Guide [23:58] bnchs it's not in their DNA [23:58] bnchs pinephone is a GNU/Linux phone [23:58] bnchs like android is a Linux-based phone [23:59] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/marinated-cooked-baby.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2019/11/i-remember-when-marinated-cooked-baby-was-only-3-99-a-pound/ ) [23:59] TR Bot I remember when Marinated Cooked Baby was only $3.99 a pound [23:59] psydroid8 If GNU had any sense, it would have been complete years ago [23:59] psydroid8 everyone knows Linux is a dead-end kernel