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*XRevan86 sees OpenWrt 19.07.3 builds starting to be published.May 17 03:14
XRevan86 this will be a good link in a few hours my time machine tells meMay 17 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | OpenWrt Project: OpenWrt 19.07.3 - Service Release - XX May 2020May 17 03:14
XRevan86possibly a dayMay 17 03:15
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cybrNautfellow ethical nerds: when shopping i always add this to my search => "" -- but it's not good enough, because there is,,, etc.  How can I negate all top-level domains?May 17 04:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Every Social Security card says that it belongs to the Social Security Administration and you must return it if they ask for it.May 17 05:08
DaemonFC[m]Then it says if you find a card that isn't yours, please mail it back to them.May 17 05:08
DaemonFC[m]Logically, shouldn't all cards be mailed back to the Social Security Administration?May 17 05:08
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Legally item can have more than 1 owner.May 17 08:32
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: so  Social Security Administration and you can both own the card at the same time.     But in this case it sounds like Social security has greater than 51 percent ownership to the card.May 17 08:34
oiaohmYes it could be stupid like Social Security Administration owns like 99.9 % of the card and you own 0.1% because your name is on it.May 17 08:35
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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: indeedMay 17 14:46
MinceRBackdoors NT >> 17 14:51
MinceRfrom the "saints" of redmondMay 17 14:51
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MinceR 17 17:56
DaemonFC[m]Well, that's disconcerting.May 17 17:56
DaemonFC[m]I woke my laptop up and now my screen is flickering.May 17 17:56
DaemonFC[m]All better now it seems.May 17 17:57
DaemonFC[m]I didn't reboot after updates yesterday because I was downloading something.May 17 17:57
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I hear you can remove GNOME Software.May 17 17:57
DaemonFC[m]I might do that.May 17 17:57
DaemonFC[m]Sitting there taking 500 MB of RAM. WTF.May 17 17:57
MinceR:>May 17 17:57
DaemonFC[m]Some components have gotten much better about memory consumption, but GNOME Software is a big pig. It's annoying too. Apparently installing a LibreOffice update needs a reboot.May 17 17:58
DaemonFC[m]I never use it. I just use dnf update precisely because of that.May 17 17:59
MinceRgnome sucks and it is only getting worseMay 17 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the new lock screen in 3.26....not a fan.May 17 17:59
DaemonFC[m]The old one responded to your typing so you could start entering your passsword before the screen turned on.May 17 18:00
DaemonFC[m]This one waits until screen on to accept typing.May 17 18:00
DaemonFC[m]So while the old one would have gone Password123 hit enter and you're in, for example, this one might think you typed in sword123 because it takes a couple seconds to wake up and accept input.May 17 18:01
DaemonFC[m]---May 17 18:02
DaemonFC[m]Wayland is awful.May 17 18:02
DaemonFC[m]XWayland will be around forever because there's things that Wayland can't do and will never do. So they didn't really replace X, they just moved it to the side and some programs will find it easier to just keep talking to X. Now you have two problems.May 17 18:03
MinceRthey'll proclaim X to be heresy and they'll try to block it via systemdMay 17 18:03
MinceRmaybe also via LinuxMay 17 18:04
MinceR 17 18:10
kingoffrancei dont know enough details, but e.g. weirdx java x server, or tinyx/nanox/whatever they were called are relatively small.    i think lots of x complaints is just people dont want to work on codebases spanning 2-3.x decadesMay 17 18:15
MinceRunderstandableMay 17 18:15
kingoffranceit is just a lot of work i guess to write a full x in a "modern" wayMay 17 18:15
MinceRunfortunately, there's no alternativeMay 17 18:15
kingoffrancebut that would perhaps be a *huge* benefit, even if no immediate gain/paybackMay 17 18:15
MinceRit seems nobody else wants to want to design a windowing system that is as flexible as XMay 17 18:16
MinceRs/to want //May 17 18:16
kingoffranceyeah, thats why people seem to dislike it, but it has lots of stuff people dont seem to ever use/notice nowadays;   whether that is good or bad, it seems very flexibleMay 17 18:16
kingoffrancewhat i mean is, i always wonder how much stuff people are reinventing because they dont know something prior already existed, just wasnt well known, and mightve been "extendable" to add whatever they neededMay 17 18:18
kingoffrancethere seems lots of rarely-used partsMay 17 18:18
kingoffrancei guess, even myself anyways, user i dont think now the full scope of things, so the critics im not sure necessarily have a full picture eitherMay 17 18:19
kingoffrances/even/even the users,/May 17 18:19
DaemonFC[m]Wayland really needed to do a lot more. I understand the "drop the antiquated X11 bullshit that nobody will ever use again" part.May 17 18:25
DaemonFC[m]Breaking the core protocol and then moving that behavior off into a plug-in seems like it would have gone over better.May 17 18:25
MinceRconsidering that even X maintainers don't seem to understand X, i doubt anyone will do this properlyMay 17 18:26
MinceRdesigning waylandows demonstrates a lack of understanding very wellMay 17 18:26
DaemonFC[m]It's unfair to compare it with Windows, really.May 17 18:27
DaemonFC[m]X works more like the display system in Windows in a number of ways.May 17 18:28
MinceRyeah, i guess they allow you to play FPS games on windowsMay 17 18:28
DaemonFC[m]LOLMay 17 18:28
MinceRand to take screenshotsMay 17 18:28
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but the Windows Store wrapper makes it work more slowly.May 17 18:28
MinceROTOH windows loves client-side decorations tooMay 17 18:28
DaemonFC[m]Incidentally, the Windows Store is the same price as buying the game on Steam.May 17 18:28
DaemonFC[m]You can take the game to Mac or Linux with you if you decide to with Steam. Can't do that with the Windows store.May 17 18:29
MinceRi prefer buying games on GOGMay 17 18:29
MinceRno DRM, no need to use bullshit launchersMay 17 18:29
DaemonFC[m]There's Gog Galaxy.May 17 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Required for multiplayer sometimes.May 17 18:35
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MinceRi'll just stick to multiplayer with free software games and engines, thenMay 17 18:48
MinceRthey're better anywayMay 17 18:48
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oiaohmMinceR: the X11 maintainers under standard X11 and that is the problem why they started the move to wayland.May 17 19:58
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: May 17 19:59
oiaohmX11 is like MS windows on the interface on that lots of stuff is done in highly insecure ways.   But client decorations is the way MS windows does it.    So Windows interface is half way between X11 and Wayland. May 17 20:00
MinceRyes, it's much more secure if your windowing system can't do anything you want to use it forMay 17 20:10
DaemonFC[m]Windows has lots of security problems, which is one reason why I fear vote by internet.May 17 20:10
MinceRthough i guess pottery doesn't play games or make screenshots on his multiseat laptopMay 17 20:10
MinceRso those features are obviously unnecessaryMay 17 20:10
DaemonFC[m]What's to stop Pootie Poot from just hijacking a bunch of Windows 10 computers with a botnet and just loading up the forms and clicking "Submit Ballot"?May 17 20:10
kingoffranceeh, it will by secure, you just wont be allowed to vote on anything that might upset certain peopleMay 17 20:10
kingoffrancethat way even if it gets hacked, they are still secureMay 17 20:10
kingoffrance"secure for who?" :)May 17 20:11
MinceRnone of your options will matter :>May 17 20:11
kingoffrance^^^May 17 20:11
MinceR"vote for whichever of the parties we've got in our pockets"May 17 20:11
DaemonFC[m]I'm probably going to vote by mail but I haven't decided yet.May 17 20:26
DaemonFC[m]It seems kind of dumb that states aren't doing all mail elections anyway.May 17 20:27
DaemonFC[m]Do you know how much money it costs to set up polling sites and put election judges there all the time?May 17 20:27
MinceRrunning a state is too costlyMay 17 20:55
MinceRthey should abolish themMay 17 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - ProtagonistMay 17 21:18
DaemonFC[m]All the money that goes into pretending that the voters are in control of anything....May 17 21:33
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DaemonFC[m]I suppose I'll vote for Biden.May 17 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Nobody seriously thinks Trump has a chance in Illinois though. If he won Illinois it would be the mother of all upset elections. Polls can be off, but usually not by 18 points.May 17 22:33
XRevan86Did Trump really say that Puerto Rico cannot be a state in the US, because it has a too large Democrat-supporting population/May 17 22:42
XRevan86It sounded too much even for himMay 17 22:45
XRevan86not only can't he tell apart goals of the country and his own goals, but also goals of the country and goals of his bloody party?May 17 22:45
XRevan86and so much so that he's oblivious to that so much he openly admitted to it!?May 17 22:46
DaemonFC[m]He's not really thrilled that they're US citizens and can move to the states and vote without his sham immigration people finding excuses to rip them off for thousands of dollars and say no.May 17 22:47
XRevan86If that doesn't discredit the US as a Rechtsstaat completely, then I don't know what wouldMay 17 22:48
XRevan86Rechtsstaat is an idea that was sold to me in school that I've been thinking back a lot lately.May 17 22:48
XRevan86as my respect for many institutions in different countries fadesMay 17 22:50
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: About moving to the state and vote – does that make a statistical difference? It's quite an effort.May 17 22:54
DaemonFC[m]Well, about 60,000 of them moved to the states after Hurricane Maria.May 17 22:56
DaemonFC[m]Most of them to Florida.May 17 22:56
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Ah, in that sense.May 17 22:56
XRevan86 oy-vey, apparently that's a very post-USSR thing.May 17 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rechtsstaat - WikipediaMay 17 22:59
XRevan86Maybe it was employed as a replacement for building Communism %)May 17 22:59
XRevan86Well, we're still building something, but now it's a state that respects law and has just institutions and stuffMay 17 23:00
XRevan86Works out great.May 17 23:00
XRevan86Boy humanity is pitiful.May 17 23:01
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