●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 17, 2023 ●● ● Jun 17 [00:06] TR News The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Gemini address: The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It [00:07] TR News The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/the-name-linux-misused-by-people-who-never-even-used-it/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/the-name-linux-misused-by-people-who-never-even-used-it/ [00:08] TR Bot The Name Linux Misused by People Who Never Even Used It | Techrights [00:16] TR News Magic cookies gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2023-06-15-cookies [00:17] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:17] TR News "I recently feel in need of a substantial daily routine change. The type of change that isnt just I wanna read more books or I wanna do more for my hobby or "I will move my workout to the mornings now"." gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/cravingchange [00:17] *techuser (~techuser@bn6gayc6334ay.irc) has joined #techrights [00:18] TR News "But the street and tram isn't the only type of public. There's schools as well, playgrounds, and all that. And that takes me back to when boys also controlled the school experience." gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/inpublic [00:19] TR News "I was hoping that someone would start a FreeBSD subspace here. I just installed 13.2 onto real hardware for the first time in a while. FreeBSD used to be my everyday OS for a few years, and while I had my reasons for walking away I have to say I did miss it." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/s/FreeBSD/2014 [00:19] TR News "I think it would be fun to try running my own instance for private use, but Im not sure I understand exactly how to launch gmcapsule. My brain hasnt been working at full capacity the last couple of weeks, though. So Ill just leave these here for Future Me to take a look at." gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/gemlog/2023-06-18-links.gmi [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] TR News Privacy in Gemini Revisited gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2023/202306/20230616-privacy-in-gemini-revisited.gmi [00:21] TR News "Here is a summary of my progress for writing OpenKuBSD. So far, I've had a few blockers but I've been able to find solutions, more or less simple and nice, but overall I'm really excited about how the project is turning out." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openkubsd-progress-1.gmi [00:24] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [00:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [00:24] TR News (NEW): Station P2S mini-PC offers support for PoE and 4G LTE http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Station_P2S_mini_PC_offers_support_for_PoE_and_4G_LTE.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/16/Station_P2S_mini_PC_offers_support_for_PoE_and_4G_LTE.gmi [00:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Station P2S mini-PC offers support for PoE and 4G LTE [00:27] TR News Murdoch tabloid pushing "TikTok" and "TikTokers" every day lately. PR services for China? https://nypost.com/2023/06/16/cvs-actually-stands-for-something-and-most-people-have-no-clue-after-60-years/ [00:27] TR Bot CVS actually stands for something -- and most people have no clue after 60 years [00:27] TR News Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 8: YouTube, Google, and Alphabet as the Wests Political Opportunists and Enemies of Public Health http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/a-western-gulag-vs-public-health/ [00:27] TR Bot Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 8: YouTube, Google, and Alphabet as the Wests Political Opportunists and Enemies of Public Health | Techrights [00:28] TR News TikTok, Shein and Other Companies Distance Themselves From China https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/15/business/economy/china-business-tiktok-shein.html [00:28] TR Bot TikTok, Shein and Other Companies Distance Themselves From China - The New York Times [00:29] TR News "feel wealthier" is not a thing; they're not https://qz.com/american-millennials-and-genzers-feel-wealthier-than-bo-1850543873 [00:29] TR Bot US Millennials feel wealthier than Boomers [00:29] TR News Pluralistic: Gulag makes millions on paid abortion disinformation (15 June 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/06/15/paid-medical-disinformation/ [00:29] TR Bot Pluralistic: Google makes millions on paid abortion disinformation (15 June 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [00:32] TR News Raising voices on video calls https://rubenerd.com/raising-voices-on-video-calls/ [00:32] TR Bot Raising voices on video calls [00:32] elusive_woman i would suck the unabomber's dick if he were still alive [00:34] TR News "false narratives calling it unsuccessful fail to gain traction on Twitter" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-war-report-counteroffensive-narratives/ [00:35] TR Bot Russian War Report: Anti-Ukrainian counteroffensive narratives fail to go viral - Atlantic Council [00:44] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://federalnewsnetwork.com/technology-news/2023/06/energy-department-among-federal-agencies-breached-by-russian-ransomware-gang/ [00:44] TR Bot A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies | Federal News Network [00:46] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/15/russian-man-arrested-alleged-involvement-lockbit-ransomware-gang/ [00:46] TR Bot man arrested for alleged involvement with LockBit ransomware gang - SiliconANGLE [00:47] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/cl0p-gang-claimed-to-have-hit-many-us-agencies-through-moveit-flaw.html [00:47] TR Bot - Cl0p gang claimed to have hit many US agencies through MOVEit flaw [00:55] TR News Prosecutor Seeks Lengthy Prison Term For Mother Of Chechen Opposition Bloggers https://www.rferl.org/a/chechnya-musayeva-lengthy-sentence-yangulbayev-kadyrov-opposition/32460909.html [00:55] TR Bot Prosecutor Seeks Lengthy Prison Term For Mother Of Chechen Opposition Bloggers [00:56] TR News They are both proponents of back doors rather than security https://www.securityweek.com/cisa-nsa-share-guidance-on-hardening-baseboard-management-controllers/ [00:56] TR Bot NSA Share Guidance on Hardening Baseboard Management Controllers - SecurityWeek [00:57] TR News Barracuda Zero-Day Attacks Attributed to Chinese Cyberespionage Group https://www.securityweek.com/barracuda-zero-day-attacks-attributed-to-chinese-cyberespionage-group/ [00:57] TR Bot Zero-Day Attacks Attributed to Chinese Cyberespionage Group - SecurityWeek [00:57] TR News Fake Security Researcher Accounts Pushing Malware Disguised as Zero-Day Exploits https://www.securityweek.com/fake-security-researcher-accounts-pushing-malware-disguised-as-zero-day-exploits/ [00:57] TR Bot Security Researcher Accounts Pushing Malware Disguised as Zero-Day Exploits - SecurityWeek [00:58] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/us-organizations-paid-91-million-to-lockbit-ransomware-gang/ [00:58] TR Bot Organizations Paid $91 Million to LockBit Ransomware Gang - SecurityWeek [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [01:00] TR News Andy Wingo: parallel futures in mobile application development https://wingolog.org/archives/2023/06/15/parallel-futures-in-mobile-application-development [01:00] TR Bot parallel futures in mobile application development -- wingolog [01:01] TR News Mozilla Thunderbird: Thunderbird for Android / K-9 Mail: May 2023 Progress Report https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/06/thunderbird-for-android-k-9-mail-may-2023-progress-report/ [01:01] TR Bot Thunderbird for Android / K-9 Mail: May 2023 Progress Report [01:03] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/15/clop-moveit-hacking-victims-now-include-department-energy-facilities/ [01:03] TR Bot MOVEit hacking victims now include Department of Energy facilities - SiliconANGLE [01:04] TR News The Top 21 Open-Source Tools for Securing Your Linux Server https://www.fossmint.com/linux-security-tools/ [01:04] TR Bot 21 Best Open-Source Tools for Securing Your Linux Server [01:05] TR News Law firm HWL Ebsworth in a world of pain after Alphv attack https://itwire.com/open-sauce/law-firm-hwl-ebsworth-in-a-world-of-pain-after-alphv-attack.html [01:05] TR Bot - Law firm HWL Ebsworth in a world of pain after Alphv attack [01:06] TR News How to install Wireguard VPN in Debian? https://www.librebyte.net/en/security-and-cryptography/how-to-install-wireguard-vpn-in-debian/ [01:06] TR Bot How to install Wireguard VPN in Debian? | LibreByte [01:08] TR News Corrupt MIT 'press' is still issuing SPAM for 'Microsoft India'... disguised as 'articles' (noting funding) https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/06/15/1074755/deciphering-cybersecurity-mesh-architecture/ [01:08] TR Bot Deciphering cybersecurity mesh architecture | MIT Technology Review [01:10] TR News TTABlog Test: How Did These Three Appeals from Section 2(d) Refusals Turn Out? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/06/ttablog-test-how-did-these-three_15.html [01:10] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTABlog Test: How Did These Three Appeals from Section 2(d) Refusals Turn Out? [01:10] TR News Citus 11.3 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/citus-113-released-2657/ [01:10] TR Bot PostgreSQL: Citus 11.3 Released! [01:12] TR News Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 9: Name Your Poison http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/youtube-should-be-avoided/ [01:12] TR Bot Why You Should Quit YouTube Part 9: Name Your Poison | Techrights [01:15] TR News How to run yugabytedb in docker and docker-compose https://citizix.com/how-to-run-yugabytedb-in-docker-and-docker-compose/ [01:15] TR Bot How to run yugabytedb in docker and docker-compose [01:15] TR News How To Encrypt A Drive In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-encrypt-a-drive-in-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ [01:15] TR Bot To Encrypt A Drive In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Itsubuntu [01:16] TR News How to Install ProcessWire CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 https://linuxhostsupport.com/blog/how-to-install-processwire-cms-on-ubuntu-22-04/ [01:16] TR Bot to Install ProcessWire CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 | LinuxHostSupport [01:18] TR News How to install default Ubuntu 22.04s desktop environment? https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-default-ubuntu-22-04s-desktop-environment/ [01:18] TR Bot How to install default Ubuntu 22.04's desktop environment? [01:18] TR News How to Install Okular on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-okular-on-linux-mint/ [01:18] TR Bot to Install Okular on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable [01:18] TR News How to Install Kdenlive on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-kdenlive-on-linux-mint/ [01:18] TR Bot to Install Kdenlive on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable [01:19] TR News How to Install XWiki on Debian 11 https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-xwiki-on-debian-11/ [01:19] TR Bot to Install XWiki on Debian 11 - RoseHosting [01:20] TR News How to Install Joplin on Linux Mint 21/20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-joplin-on-linux-mint/ [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] TR Bot to Install Joplin on Linux Mint 21/20 - LinuxCapable [01:21] TR News This is malware that steals all your passwords without consent. Do not even install it. https://www.debugpoint.com/how-to-install-edge-ubuntu-linux/ [01:21] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/how-to-install-edge-ubuntu-linux/ ) [01:24] TR News Government Contractors and Corporate Liability for Fraud https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/06/16/corporate-liability-for-fraud/ [01:24] TR Bot Blog Archive Government Contractors and Corporate Liability for Fraud [01:26] TR News Red Hat keeps promoting Microsoft's proprietary spyware instead of competing against that https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/06/15/how-use-ansible-create-vm-azure [01:26] TR Bot How to use Ansible to create a VM on Azure | Red Hat Developer [01:27] TR News PostgreSQL Conference Europe 2023 Call for Papers https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-conference-europe-2023-call-for-papers-2659/ [01:27] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Conference Europe 2023 Call for Papers [01:28] TR News How to Create Users in PostgreSQL https://tecadmin.net/create-users-in-postgresql/ [01:28] TR Bot How to Create Users in PostgreSQL TecAdmin [01:28] TR News CloudNativePG 1.20.1, 1.19.3 and 1.18.5 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1201-1193-and-1185-released-2656/ [01:28] TR Bot PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.20.1, 1.19.3 and 1.18.5 Released! [01:29] TR News PL/Java 1.6.5 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pljava-165-released-2658/ [01:29] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PL/Java 1.6.5 released [01:30] TR News Iran's 'Quantum' Computer is Apparently Powered by an Arm Development Board https://www.tomshardware.com/news/iran-quantum-computer-arm-dev-board [01:30] TR Bot Iran's 'Quantum' Computer is Apparently Powered by an Arm Development Board | Tom's Hardware [01:32] TR News TTAB Issues a "Final Pretrial Conference Assignment Order" in Red Bull Opposition http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/06/ttab-issues-final-pretrial-conference.html [01:32] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTAB Issues a "Final Pretrial Conference Assignment Order" in Red Bull Opposition [01:32] TR News How to Claim Google Class Action Privacy Settlement Money https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/14/technology/google-class-action-settlement-claim.html [01:32] TR Bot How to Claim Google Class Action Privacy Settlement Money - The New York Times [01:36] TR News Hired to steal em all: Man in Japan arrested for stealing 1,500 Pokemon cards worth $11k https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/hired-to-steal-em-all-man-in-japan-arrested-for-stealing-1500-pokemon-cards-worth-11k [01:36] TR Bot Hired to steal em all: Man in Japan arrested for stealing 1,500 Pokemon cards worth $11k | The Straits Times [01:36] TR News (NEW): PostgreSQL Releases and Events http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/PostgreSQL_Releases_and_Events.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/PostgreSQL_Releases_and_Events.gmi [01:36] TR Bot Tux Machines PostgreSQL Releases and Events [01:37] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi [01:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [01:37] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/several_howtos_from_the_day.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/several_howtos_from_the_day.gmi [01:37] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [01:37] TR News (NEW): Blue Recorder - A Simple Video Recording Tool for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Blue_Recorder_A_Simple_Video_Recording_Tool_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Blue_Recorder_A_Simple_Video_Recording_Tool_for_Linux.gmi [01:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Blue Recorder - A Simple Video Recording Tool for Linux [01:37] TR News (NEW): YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software Invidious to Shut Down http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/YouTube_Tells_Open_Source_Privacy_Software_Invidious_to_Shut_Do.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/YouTube_Tells_Open_Source_Privacy_Software_Invidious_to_Shut_Do.gmi [01:37] TR Bot Tux Machines YouTube Tells Open-Source Privacy Software Invidious to Shut Down [01:38] TR News Protecting the Indian Child Welfare Act at the State Level https://www.aclu.org/news/racial-justice/protecting-indian-child-welfare-act-icwa-state-level-brackeen-v-haaland [01:38] TR Bot Protecting the Indian Child Welfare Act at the State Level | ACLU [01:39] TR News Jonathan Dowland: containers as first-class network citizens https://jmtd.net/log/podman_network/ [01:39] TR Bot jmtd log containers as first-class network citizens [01:39] *t0talist has quit (Quit: connection closed.) [01:40] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [01:40] TR News John Goerzen: Using git-annex for Data Archiving https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10516-using-git-annex-for-data-archiving [01:40] TR Bot Using git-annex for Data Archiving | The Changelog [01:44] TR News HMRC: 4 Weeks Have Passed and It Did Not Even Respond to Report of Tax Fraud at Sirius Open Source, a UK Government Contractor http://techrights.org/2023/06/15/hmrc-4-weeks-later/ [01:44] TR Bot HMRC: 4 Weeks Have Passed and It Did Not Even Respond to Report of Tax Fraud at Sirius Open Source, a UK Government Contractor | Techrights [01:44] TR News Police Out of Control (or Oversight) Part 9: Waiting for Godot http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/waiting-for-godot/ [01:44] TR Bot Police Out of Control (or Oversight) Part 9: Waiting for Godot | Techrights [01:44] TR News Recitation of a Previously Unappreciated Mechanism of Action Does Not Overcome Prima Facie Obviousness of Drug Combination https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/06/unappreciated-obviousness-combination.html [01:44] TR Bot Recitation of a Previously Unappreciated Mechanism of Action Does Not Overcome Prima Facie Obviousness of Drug Combination | Patently-O [01:46] TR News Bank windfall profit tax may weaken Lithuanias reputation IMF https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2014397/bank-windfall-profit-tax-may-weaken-lithuania-s-reputation-imf [01:46] TR Bot Bank windfall profit tax may weaken Lithuanias reputation IMF - LRT [01:46] TR News Lobbyists run todays NDPand theyre warping the partys politics https://breachmedia.ca/ndp-lobbyists/ [01:46] TR Bot Lobbyists run todays NDPand theyre warping the partys politics The Breach [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [02:00] TR News Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/government-defrauding-workers-via-contractors/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/government-defrauding-workers-via-contractors/ [02:00] TR Bot Government Contracting/Collaboration With the Private Sector is Neither an Excuse Nor Cover for Defrauding Workers | Techrights [02:02] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1948695 [02:02] TR Bot The US Navy, NATO, and NASA are using a shady Chinese companys encryption chips | Ars Technica [02:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye can't catch up to Russia, Russia doesn't stand still, it constantly devolves. [02:06] schestowitz[TR] that too [02:06] schestowitz[TR] we will also [02:06] schestowitz[TR] as the system becomes less stable, it adapts [02:06] schestowitz[TR] by all means possible [02:07] schestowitz[TR] to avert revolutions [02:09] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D624.jpg [02:09] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D950.jpg [02:11] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/262625 [02:11] TR Bot Putin orders creation of psychiatric institute to study the behavior of LGBT people [02:11] schestowitz[TR] oh dear.. [02:11] schestowitz[TR] SOVIETS were known for this [02:12] schestowitz[TR] diagnosing dissidents as a mental issue [02:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: Actually, this practice is back. [02:12] XRevan86 For a while now. [02:12] schestowitz[TR] you have to be CRAZY to not love putinb [02:13] schestowitz[TR] how can you NOT support PUTIN'S POLICIES? [02:13] schestowitz[TR] What is WRONG with you? [02:13] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/ [02:13] TR Bot [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights [02:13] schestowitz[TR] Jim [Z]emlin [02:14] schestowitz[TR] Operation Zemlin [02:14] schestowitz[TR] Special operation [02:15] TR News Gemini Links 16/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, s/FreeBSD, and Privacy in Gemini Revisited | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/privacy-in-gemini-revisited/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/privacy-in-gemini-revisited/ [02:15] TR Bot Gemini Links 16/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, s/FreeBSD, and Privacy in Gemini Revisited | Techrights [02:19] XRevan86 schestowitz: "you have to be CRAZY to not love putin" <- Be sane like Putin, have the corridors disinfected: https://youtu.be/38Im5_Tc11g [02:19] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=38Im5_Tc11g [02:19] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | . . - Invidious [02:19] XRevan86 That's today, yes [02:20] schestowitz[TR] :/ [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:20] schestowitz[TR] we are copying you [02:20] schestowitz[TR] cannot even report crime here anymore [02:20] schestowitz[TR] unless you have very high level connections [02:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: In Putin's Russia crime reports YOU [02:20] schestowitz[TR] reporting crime is... [02:20] schestowitz[TR] "discrediting the state" [02:21] schestowitz[TR] assange is in prison [02:21] schestowitz[TR] he published information about war crime [02:21] schestowitz[TR] that discredits the state [02:21] schestowitz[TR] so he is a criminal, or something... [02:22] schestowitz[TR] russian military commits war crimes [02:22] schestowitz[TR] mention it and.... "discrediting the military" [02:23] schestowitz[TR] we should just "STFU" [02:23] schestowitz[TR] and hope that t he war crimes don't impact us personally [02:23] schestowitz[TR] and then "live in peace" [02:23] TR News Links 16/06/2023: PL/Java 1.6.5 and Citus 11.3 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/citus-11-3-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/16/citus-11-3-released/ [02:24] TR Bot Links 16/06/2023: PL/Java 1.6.5 and Citus 11.3 Released | Techrights [02:25] schestowitz[TR] devil's advocate: [02:25] schestowitz[TR] why bother? [02:25] schestowitz[TR] you will get in troublke [02:25] schestowitz[TR] just accept the crimes [02:25] schestowitz[TR] in fact, participate in them [02:25] schestowitz[TR] you can become rich [02:25] XRevan86 What is Assange accused of exactly anyway? [02:27] schestowitz[TR] it's like this [02:27] schestowitz[TR] 2008: he is a hero [02:27] schestowitz[TR] he exposes crimes mostly outside US [02:27] schestowitz[TR] 2010: he is controversial [02:27] schestowitz[TR] because he started releasing material on war crimes [02:27] schestowitz[TR] then he is "rapist" [02:28] XRevan86 I mean formally. [02:28] schestowitz[TR] because the girls who chase him make claims [02:28] schestowitz[TR] after the cases are formally withdrawn the US unseals espionmage act "case" [02:28] schestowitz[TR] because he communicated with Manning [02:28] schestowitz[TR] so he in in arbitrary detention in the UK [02:29] schestowitz[TR] manning is doing almost nothing anymore [02:29] schestowitz[TR] so they left her alone [02:30] schestowitz[TR] ellsberg can die from cancer any day now [02:30] schestowitz[TR] (even tomorrow) [02:31] AdmFubar https://www.thedailybeast.com/beware-the-racism-in-the-machine-of-ai [02:31] TR Bot Beware the Racism in the Machine of A.I. [02:31] TR News (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi [02:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest [02:31] TR News (NEW): Programming: Mobile Development and git-annex http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Mobile_Development_and_git_annex.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Mobile_Development_and_git_annex.gmi [02:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming: Mobile Development and git-annex [02:31] TR News (NEW): SUSE and Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/SUSE_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/SUSE_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi [02:31] TR Bot Tux Machines SUSE and Red Hat Leftovers [02:31] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [02:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [02:33] schestowitz[TR] oh [02:33] schestowitz[TR] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/16/daniel-ellsberg-pentagon-papers-whistleblower-dies-at-92 [02:33] TR Bot Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistleblower dies at 92 | Politics News | Al Jazeera [02:33] schestowitz[TR] today [02:33] schestowitz[TR] he died TODAY [02:34] schestowitz[TR] "16 Jun 2023 [02:34] schestowitz[TR] ' [02:34] AdmFubar would this stop his grabbing action?? https://www.alternet.org/trump-approved-miss-univese-transgender/ [02:34] TR Bot approved of ending Miss Universes ban on transgender contestants: report - Alternet.org [02:34] schestowitz[TR] I was about to show an article [02:34] schestowitz[TR] about him expecting to die in 6 months [02:34] schestowitz[TR] and I found this [02:34] schestowitz[TR] Ellsberg HAS jus6t died [02:34] schestowitz[TR] ""Daniel Ellsberg, a whistleblower famed for exposing government deception over the United Statess war in Vietnam and an outspoken opponent of nuclear weapons, has died at the age of 92 from pancreatic cancer. [02:34] schestowitz[TR] The Washington Post was the first to report that Ellsberg died on Friday, citing a statement from his family. [02:35] schestowitz[TR] My dear father, #DanielEllsberg, died this morning June 16 at 1:24 AM, four months after his diagnosis with pancreatic cancer. His family surrounded him as he took his last breath. He had no pain and died peacefully at home, his son Robert said in a Twitter post on Friday. [02:35] schestowitz[TR] so when i said tomorrow I was being optimistic [02:35] schestowitz[TR] he did not make it [02:36] schestowitz[TR] https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2023/mar/04/ellsberg-reveals-he-has-months-to-live/ [02:36] TR Bot Ellsberg reveals he has months to live [02:36] schestowitz[TR] "Ellsberg posted on his Facebook page Thursday that doctors diagnosed the 91-year-old with inoperable pancreatic cancer on Feb. 17 following medical scans. [02:36] schestowitz[TR] " [02:36] schestowitz[TR] did not last 6 months [02:36] schestowitz[TR] 4 [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160623.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160623.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-160623.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-160623.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 16, 2023 [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:46] XRevan86 The U.S. are a puppet of Zelensky. [02:47] XRevan86 (Solovyov forgot that Zelensky's president only since 2019, but who cares) [02:48] MinceR lol [02:48] schestowitz[TR] Russia invaded in 2014 [02:49] AdmFubar https://front.moveon.org/how-moveon-is-working-to-support-the-lgbtq-community/ [02:50] TR Bot How MoveOn Is Working to Support the LGBTQ+ Community [02:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Correct. [02:50] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/06/the-uk-government-with-labour-partys-help-just-took-another-big-step-toward-outlawing-peaceful-political-protest.html [02:50] TR Bot The UK's Tory Government, With Labour's Help, Just Took Another Big Step Toward Outlawing Peaceful Political Protest | naked capitalism [02:50] TR News Windows TCO https://cyberscoop.com/energy-department-cl0p-moveit-cisa/ [02:50] TR Bot Energy Department entities breached as part of massive MOVEit compromise | CyberScoop [02:50] MinceR obviously, Zelensky was also controlling Moscovia, forcing them to invade in 2014 [02:51] XRevan86 MinceR: He baited them in. [02:51] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uax6j9r5apawe.irc) has joined #techrights [02:51] MinceR remember, ruscists keep telling us that putler is not in control of his own actions [02:51] schestowitz[TR] with comedy routines [02:51] MinceR and apparently this is what makes an alleged leader admirable. [02:51] XRevan86 MinceR: There's historical footage: https://youtu.be/HwuYGCUORuE [02:51] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=HwuYGCUORuE [02:51] schestowitz[TR] he had no choice [02:51] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | [Lyrics] The Lion King - The Hula Dance - Invidious [02:51] schestowitz[TR] the "comedian" has "biolabs" [02:51] MinceR so, from these things it would seem to follow that Biden is worthy of admiration for the same reason: being totally controlled by Zelensky. [02:53] XRevan86 Pumba's Zelensky and Timon's Arestovich. [02:53] MinceR Timon brings Timon's Axe to my mind [02:53] MinceR https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Timon%27s_Axe [02:53] TR Bot Axe - The Doom Wiki at DoomWiki.org [02:54] XRevan86 Just because both Timon and Arestovich look good in a dress. [02:54] *XRevan86 doesn't know if there's anyone here who got the joke %). [02:54] MinceR "I'm here for my ballet classes. I should warn you, I look damn good in a tutu." [02:56] XRevan86 MinceR: Where's that from? [02:56] MinceR Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series [02:57] XRevan86 https://politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-to-write-six-figure-column-for-the-daily-mail/ [02:57] TR Bot Boris Johnson lands six-figure Daily Mail column. Good luck getting him to file on time POLITICO [02:57] XRevan86 https://neuters.de/world/uk/boris-johnson-gets-new-job-daily-mail-columnist-2023-06-16/ [02:57] TR Bot Ethics body accuses UK's Johnson of new breach for taking newspaper job without vetting [02:57] XRevan86 That didn't take long. [02:58] XRevan86 MinceR: They have an anime about a card game? [02:58] MinceR yes, they have a manga about a children's card game that didn't exist back when the manga started, and they have an anime adaptation [02:58] MinceR and then they actually created the children's card game [02:58] MinceR and The Abridged Series is a parody of the anime [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [02:59] *XRevan86 checked the first episode of the Abridged Series, and the interlace made me look for which key binding deinterlaces in MPV. [02:59] MinceR lol ● Jun 17 [03:00] MinceR there's a remake of the pilot, which looks and sounds better [03:01] XRevan86 Boris Johnson does not strike me as a journalist type to be honest. 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MakuluLinux [04:04] TR News Linux Action News 297 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-action-news/297/ [04:04] TR Bot Linux Action News 297 | Jupiter Broadcasting [04:05] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I get to go back to the shop tomorrow and tell them that the alignment that I paid for is still wrong. [04:05] schestowitz[TR] lots of money and time wasted tbh [04:05] schestowitz[TR] but enjoy [04:05] schestowitz[TR] mark married marisol [04:05] schestowitz[TR] you married some old car [04:06] TR News Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 16, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives [04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] TR News Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I ran into an article from 1998. [04:08] DaemonFC Thousands of RCA workers losing their jobs in Bloomington. [04:08] DaemonFC The article was about complaints that the union was handing out bibles. [04:09] DaemonFC A lot of people who lost their jobs at RCA killed themselves. [04:09] DaemonFC I'd call anything that helps prevent that good. [04:09] DaemonFC Who is complaining about the union handing out a bible while there's a plant closure? [04:10] TR News phoronix: WSL, Microsoft, Windows, other junk... https://www.phoronix.com/news/CBL-Mariner-2.0.20230609 [04:10] TR Bot Linux Distro Now Ships With NVMe Multi-Path Support, Upgrades More Tools - Phoronix [04:11] TR News There are GOOD reasons why geeks "DO NOT WANT!" Microsoft [04:12] TR News How To Install Yarn on Fedora 38 https://idroot.us/install-yarn-fedora-38/ [04:12] TR Bot How To Install Yarn on Fedora 38 - idroot [04:13] TR News Thomas Lange: 20.000 customized images created by the FAI.me build service http://blog.fai-project.org/posts/faime-20000/ [04:13] TR Bot 20.000 customized images created by the FAI.me build service [04:14] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I remember the plant closures pretty well. [04:14] DaemonFC It was a scary time for everyone that worked there. My dad included. [04:14] schestowitz[TR] yeah [04:14] schestowitz[TR] 2 kids [04:14] DaemonFC He had savings but the only reason he did okay was that the economy was in a recession and the feds extended unemployment out past six months as an emergency. [04:14] schestowitz[TR] kids= you will run out of money very fast [04:15] DaemonFC Yeah. He was lucky that it happened when it did. [04:15] DaemonFC Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the extra money or extra time to find a job. [04:15] TR News Windows https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/16/cyber-spying-campaign-linked-to-china-targeting-agencies-in-hong-kong-and-taiwan-report-finds/ [04:15] TR Bot Cyber spying campaign linked to China targeting agencies in Hong Kong and Taiwan, report finds - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [04:16] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], For many reasons, the plant closures were inevitable. [04:16] DaemonFC Thomson was a very poorly operated French company, half owned by the French government. [04:16] TR News No more Microsoft https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/15/aeg-officially-rebrands-la-live-microsoft-theater-to-peacock-theater/ [04:16] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/15/aeg-officially-rebrands-la-live-microsoft-theater-to-peacock-theater/ ) [04:16] DaemonFC GE had stripped RCA of their profitable businesses like government contracts and handed Thomson a bloated and inefficient consumer sector that could not compete with the Japanese. [04:16] schestowitz[TR] US makes little anymore [04:16] DaemonFC This against a backdrop of "Free Trade" and lower tariffs. [04:17] schestowitz[TR] except marketing, brands [04:17] schestowitz[TR] and weapons [04:17] schestowitz[TR] btw, I have a fight with my freezer today [04:17] schestowitz[TR] due to the unusually hot weather [04:17] schestowitz[TR] lots of ice inside [04:17] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Trying to compete with Sony was difficult on the best of times. [04:17] schestowitz[TR] and i think I got it back undeder control [04:17] schestowitz[TR] without anything spoiling [04:17] DaemonFC But thanks to GE and Thomson, the plants that built the stuff were not upgraded to handle newer TV designs. [04:17] DaemonFC They planned to outsource, not upgrade. [04:18] DaemonFC So once the CRT died, so did the plants. [04:18] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], It still made me upset when David Byrne was on stage recalling 1978. [04:19] schestowitz[TR] i was there for half an hour like a rock climber with a chisel, than cleaning and mopping the floods. Many shards of ice [04:19] DaemonFC He said he got his first royalties from being in the music business and went out and bought a Sony Trinitron TV. He said, "Very small, very expensive, but state of the art then." [04:19] DaemonFC RCA was still a viable business in 1978. [04:19] schestowitz[TR] schestowitz[TR], For many reasons, the plant closures were inevitable. [04:20] schestowitz[TR] they should not be [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:20] schestowitz[TR] it's a choice [04:20] DaemonFC The Trinitron sets had technical problems that Sony never got ironed out, the CRT models anyway. [04:20] DaemonFC At the time, the American TV sets were better. [04:20] schestowitz[TR] the US could promote buying US-made [04:20] DaemonFC Japan's electronics industry wasn't very good. [04:20] schestowitz[TR] nothing racist about it [04:20] DaemonFC I'm not saying that the Japanese shouldn't be allowed to sell TV sets here if they want to. [04:21] DaemonFC But the government should make sure that they can't do things like predatory pricing. [04:21] DaemonFC You know, I mean, back then they should have. [04:21] DaemonFC Nobody makes TVs here now. [04:21] schestowitz[TR] wall street boom is [04:21] schestowitz[TR] 1) ponzi [04:21] DaemonFC There's a lot of Asian companies that get things to retail in the US impossibly cheap. [04:21] schestowitz[TR] 2) rexploitation [04:21] DaemonFC It's because China is dumping public money into their business. [04:21] DaemonFC Eating the losses just to kill us. [04:21] DaemonFC Then the price goes up. [04:22] schestowitz[TR] There's a lot of Asian companies that get things to retail in the US impossibly cheap. [04:22] schestowitz[TR] can make intrnational treaties [04:22] schestowitz[TR] which the big corporations do not want [04:22] schestowitz[TR] to ensure fair pay [04:22] DaemonFC It's not just China. China is who is mainly doing it in this century. [04:22] schestowitz[TR] not workers for 50 cents an hour [04:22] DaemonFC Japan was back then. [04:23] schestowitz[TR] but companies like nike get massive porofit margins this way [04:23] schestowitz[TR] of course it's not good for the average person [04:23] schestowitz[TR] as the prices don't even ecrease [04:23] DaemonFC Everyone panicked and thought Japan would take over everything and become a superpower. [04:23] DaemonFC Then the early 90s happened. [04:24] DaemonFC The United Nations Security Council is fundamentally broken. [04:24] DaemonFC The UK is certainly not a superpower. [04:24] schestowitz[TR] IN in general [04:24] schestowitz[TR] like "democracy" [04:24] schestowitz[TR] where billions of fools decide [04:24] DaemonFC It has very limited means to actually project force, much less influence global policy. [04:24] schestowitz[TR] even people who are headhunters [04:24] schestowitz[TR] "democracy" [04:24] DaemonFC France? LOL [04:24] schestowitz[TR] it works OK in theory [04:24] schestowitz[TR] when there is media [04:24] schestowitz[TR] and the population is well ifnfrorlmed [04:25] schestowitz[TR] democracy in pakistan means there are law that forbid criticising religion [04:25] DaemonFC The whole idea of "permanent members" is broken. [04:25] DaemonFC If you want to go by who can cause a hell of a lot of trouble in the world by throwing weight around, we're down to the United States, Russia, and China. [04:26] DaemonFC Superpowers are better at causing trouble than winning wars. [04:26] DaemonFC When a country wants global stability it means they're not a superpower. [04:27] DaemonFC Superpowers are powerful enough to cause major problems in world politics. [04:27] DaemonFC And sometimes that is the goal. [04:27] DaemonFC Messing up the middle east to prevent a unified Arab state. [04:28] TR News Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Journal Special Edition https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-freebsd-journal-special-edition/ [04:28] TR Bot Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Journal Special Edition | FreeBSD Foundation [04:28] TR News Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Timeline https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-freebsd-timeline/ [04:28] TR Bot Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD FreeBSD Timeline | FreeBSD Foundation [04:28] DaemonFC Supporting insurgencies to contain Communism. [04:28] TR News Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD 30th Anniversary Merchandise https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd-30th-anniversary-merchandise/ [04:28] TR Bot Celebrating 30 years of FreeBSD 30th Anniversary Merchandise | FreeBSD Foundation [04:29] TR News June 2023 Fundraising Update https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/june-2023-fundraising-update/ [04:29] TR Bot June 2023 Fundraising Update | FreeBSD Foundation [04:29] TR News FreeBSD Day Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-day-celebrating-30-years-of-freebsd/ [04:29] TR Bot FreeBSD Day Celebrating 30 Years of FreeBSD | FreeBSD Foundation [04:29] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Be afraid when your country wants peace. It means they're vulnerable. [04:29] DaemonFC Think about it. [04:29] DaemonFC The UK went from being able to stir the shit to only coming out to help us do it and then running off. [04:30] DaemonFC Before you know it, they won't even be able to do that. [04:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], The "royal family" in the military. [04:30] TR News BSD Now 511: Against Innovation https://www.bsdnow.tv/511 [04:30] TR Bot BSD Now 511: Against Innovation [04:31] DaemonFC You can be damned sure they're not putting them near the front. [04:31] DaemonFC It's a PR thing. [04:31] DaemonFC One thing every country in every war has in common. [04:31] DaemonFC You don't send the people you want to keep to the front. [04:32] schestowitz[TR] fake front [04:32] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], It looks to me from this report... [04:32] DaemonFC That Pep Boys was able to adjust the toe back to an acceptable value on both axles. [04:33] DaemonFC But they made the camber on the rear worse than it was. [04:33] DaemonFC I'm not trying for demon camber. [04:36] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Check the other room. [04:36] DaemonFC Anyway, one reason I mentioned that European countries aren't a model for the modern world is state religion. [04:37] TR News Justservice clown patent affirmed invalid by Federal Circuit https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/6/14/justservicenet-final-decision-affirmed-by-federal-circuit [04:37] TR Bot Justservice cloud patent affirmed invalid by Federal Circuit Unified Patents [04:37] DaemonFC Even if they don't force people into it, it shouldn't even be in name only. [04:37] DaemonFC Then "royal families" and "unwritten constitutions". [04:37] TR News MOAR fake patents https://ipwatchdog.com/2023/06/15/federal-circuit-affirms-ptab-finding-claims-blood-pressure-treatment-obvious/ [04:37] TR Bot Circuit Affirms PTAB Finding that Claims for Blood Pressure Treatment are Obvious - ipwatchdog.com | Patents & Intellectual Property Law [04:38] schestowitz[TR] right [04:38] schestowitz[TR] damn, the fridge works like a horse now [04:38] schestowitz[TR] at least it's working [04:38] schestowitz[TR] and i didn't break anything [04:38] schestowitz[TR] extreme weather condition give extra work [04:38] schestowitz[TR] rianne back in 10 days [04:39] TR News Wow! A lot of PATENT 'news' sites are LITERALLY dying. Completely. Some barely publish anything. This is a graveyard. [04:41] TR News Microsoft SPAM in the 'media' to pretend HoloLens is NOT dead. It IS. Wow, media became PR appendage, not press. Bribe-to-say. [04:43] TR News Almost everyone in Europe knows that Ursula von der Leyen is fronting for OLIGARCHY (which is what her family is), NOT the EU [04:44] TR News Turkey... the... north Atlantic nation?? [04:44] DaemonFC von der Slaven? [04:45] TR News Erdogan and Orban are to NATO and EU what Stefano and Josh are to OSI... Microsoft shills [04:47] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: that too [04:47] schestowitz[TR] ladson [04:47] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [04:47] TR Bot Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [04:51] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [04:53] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], San Francisco. Where homeless people "get it". The hose. [04:54] DaemonFC I mean, the city has pretty much created its own homeless problem when people who work for Apple and Google can barely afford to live there. [04:54] schestowitz[TR] just a headsup [04:54] schestowitz[TR] techrights might quit many news feeds [04:54] schestowitz[TR] too low s/n ratio [04:54] schestowitz[TR] too much time wasted [04:55] schestowitz[TR] on things that are "tweets" as news [04:55] schestowitz[TR] or "tiktok" [04:55] schestowitz[TR] the news is dying online [04:55] schestowitz[TR] like the economy, DaemonFC [04:55] schestowitz[TR] news is dying [04:55] schestowitz[TR] you will see many more publishers crashing this year [04:55] schestowitz[TR] and crushing their staff [04:55] schestowitz[TR] then: [04:55] schestowitz[TR] spitify [04:55] schestowitz[TR] netflix [04:55] schestowitz[TR] youtube [04:55] *bagirabot0 (~bagirabot@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [04:55] schestowitz[TR] cannot quite figure things out [04:56] schestowitz[TR] they squash the users [04:56] schestowitz[TR] schestowitz[TR], San Francisco. Where homeless people "get it". The hose. [04:56] schestowitz[TR] home prices crashed there [04:56] schestowitz[TR] see: [04:57] schestowitz[TR] (office space) http://techrights.org/2023/06/16/microsoft-linkedin-closing-offices/ [04:57] TR Bot After Microsoft GitHub Sells (Shuts Down) Key Offices LinkedIn Does the Same | Techrights [04:57] schestowitz[TR] for homes, many on sale [04:57] schestowitz[TR] abundance [04:57] schestowitz[TR] lower prices [04:57] schestowitz[TR] it was a bubble [04:57] schestowitz[TR] even those who took a mortgage [04:57] schestowitz[TR] maybe their home lost like 30% in "value" [04:57] schestowitz[TR] did not check, but possible [04:58] schestowitz[TR] "linux" foundation pays 8 million now for SF 'office' [04:58] schestowitz[TR] per year [04:58] schestowitz[TR] just to rent [04:58] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/06/13/lf-exploitative-behaviour/ [04:58] TR Bot The Real Linux Foundation Part 5: The Annual Cost of the Office Has Jumped to Almost 8 Million Dollars for Just 261 Employees (About $30,000 Per Employee Per Year) | Techrights [04:58] schestowitz[TR] SF si the new manhattan [04:58] schestowitz[TR] a huge bubble [04:58] schestowitz[TR] with many businesses that don't make a dime [04:58] schestowitz[TR] they have "VC" or "angel investors" [04:58] schestowitz[TR] people sinking money into a well [04:58] schestowitz[TR] and hope it'll t urn out well [04:58] schestowitz[TR] sand GOVERNEMNT bailout [04:59] schestowitz[TR] i.e. debt money from you and Mnady [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [04:59] schestowitz[TR] (todo: how much money does 'open' HEY HI lost per year?) [04:59] schestowitz[TR] *los [04:59] schestowitz[TR] *lose ● Jun 17 [05:00] schestowitz[TR] (will be hard to get answer... it's "complicated") [05:00] TR News (NEW): Videos and Audiocasts/Shows: Makulu Max, Linux Action News, and BSD Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Videos_and_Audiocasts_Shows_Makulu_Max_Linux_Action_News_and_BS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Videos_and_Audiocasts_Shows_Makulu_Max_Linux_Action_News_and_BS.gmi [05:00] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos and Audiocasts/Shows: Makulu Max, Linux Action News, and BSD Now [05:00] *bagirabot0 has quit (connection closed) [05:00] *schestowitz[TR] checks how much twittewr debt grew under musk [05:00] schestowitz[TR] as he never made itr profitable [05:01] *bagirabot0 (~bagirabot@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [05:01] bagira boo [05:01] bagira hrm. [05:01] schestowitz[TR] "" [05:01] schestowitz[TR] Twitter Inc. made its second interest payment on the $12.5 billion in debt that Elon Musk used to take the social media giant private last year."" [05:01] schestowitz[TR] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-03/twitter-said-to-make-second-interest-payment-on-musk-buyout-debt#xj4y7vzkg [05:01] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [05:01] schestowitz[TR] not the rigt debt [05:01] schestowitz[TR] still looking [05:01] schestowitz[TR] domino economy [05:02] bagira some kind of field issue [05:02] schestowitz[TR] "According to reports, the first quarterly payment on the $13bn worth of debt used by Musk to buy Twitter must be paid by the end " [05:02] schestowitz[TR] chaff [05:02] *bagirabot0 has quit (connection closed) [05:02] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Everything GM makes eventually makes some weird noise. And 20 years later it still does it and nothing blows up. [05:02] schestowitz[TR] https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-huge-twitter-debt-bill [05:02] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-has-a-huge-twitter-debt-bill ) [05:03] schestowitz[TR] https://www.ft.com/content/25f67d89-2940-43b9-9a42-bfc34d262631 [05:03] TR Bot Subscribe to read | Financial Times [05:03] schestowitz[TR] ok, so it grew since [05:03] schestowitz[TR] fraud musk admits they STILL lose money [05:03] schestowitz[TR] after firing almost everyone [05:03] schestowitz[TR] and before the trials over severance [05:03] schestowitz[TR] so maybe 15 billion in debt over the next couple of years [05:03] schestowitz[TR] it's insolvent in any form but officially.. [05:04] XRevan86 > Looming Twitter interest payment leaves Elon Musk with unpalatable options. Billionaire faces tough choices to meet financial obligations of takeover financed by $13bn debt [05:04] schestowitz[TR] twitter won't exist in a few years [05:04] schestowitz[TR] "The $13bn debt is held by Twitter at a corporate level, with no personal guarantee by Musk." [05:04] schestowitz[TR] https://www.ft.com/content/25f67d89-2940-43b9-9a42-bfc34d262631 [05:05] schestowitz[TR] now the company is PRIVATE [05:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Same link. [05:05] schestowitz[TR] so it might be hard to know just how much money is owed [05:05] schestowitz[TR] TWWT is worth maybe a third of 44bn [05:05] schestowitz[TR] i.e. it's totall worth might be less than what it owes in debt [05:05] schestowitz[TR] insolvent [05:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye say it like it's a bad thing. It will probably be worth less down the road. [05:05] schestowitz[TR] worthless [05:06] schestowitz[TR] liaiity [05:06] schestowitz[TR] "anyone wants this piece of trash?" [05:06] schestowitz[TR] "i'll give it away for free" [05:06] schestowitz[TR] like many diaspora and pleroma/mastodon instance [05:06] schestowitz[TR] they become yokes [05:06] schestowitz[TR] and no takers [05:07] schestowitz[TR] XRevan86: it will be worth less over time [05:07] schestowitz[TR] the train ha sleft, boat has sailed [05:07] schestowitz[TR] the debt is STILL gfrowing [05:07] schestowitz[TR] despite less staff and fewer active users [05:07] schestowitz[TR] now he won't even pay his Gulag "CLOWN" bills [05:07] schestowitz[TR] no wonder [05:07] XRevan86 It will be funny if he rebrands it to X and then that will accelerate the decline. [05:07] schestowitz[TR] he probably doesn't even know if he wants to bother with the darn thing [05:07] schestowitz[TR] offloaded it to some lady with says "Twitter 2.0" [05:08] schestowitz[TR] which seems to be a Twitter where racists and k00ks gett a blue tick [05:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: Honestly, he probably does because it provides him with attention. [05:08] schestowitz[TR] not good attention [05:08] schestowitz[TR] not all attention is good [05:08] schestowitz[TR] he needs to assure shareholderrs [05:08] XRevan86 I mean subscribers and promotion. [05:08] schestowitz[TR] about starlink tesla, boring company [05:09] schestowitz[TR] he used twitter to shore up a fakecoin [05:09] schestowitz[TR] dogge [05:09] schestowitz[TR] doge [05:09] schestowitz[TR] and then came under investigation for pump and dump iirc [05:09] schestowitz[TR] for what he did for about a week [05:09] schestowitz[TR] we are becoming russia [05:09] schestowitz[TR] the regulators hewre [05:09] schestowitz[TR] banks collapsing [05:09] schestowitz[TR] they crack down on fake banks too [05:09] schestowitz[TR] and then that hurts also those who avoid high street banks [05:10] schestowitz[TR] high street banks shut down [05:10] schestowitz[TR] becoming "apps" [05:10] schestowitz[TR] on the "clown" [05:10] schestowitz[TR] (i.e. servers abord) [05:10] schestowitz[TR] no service, no tellers [05:10] schestowitz[TR] no ways to get your money out [05:10] schestowitz[TR] as mortgages cannot be paid anymore [05:10] schestowitz[TR] and so bank runs seem unstoppable [05:10] schestowitz[TR] and then they do a russia on us [05:10] schestowitz[TR] what next? [05:10] schestowitz[TR] Charges for "discrediting the banks"? [05:11] schestowitz[TR] https://gizmodo.com/twitter-elon-musk-debt-interest-social-media-1850050271 [05:11] TR Bot Twitter Begins Paying Interest on Its Massive Debt [05:11] schestowitz[TR] "The initial interest payment, due and presumably paid on Friday, likely cost the company an estimated $300 million," [05:11] schestowitz[TR] The bill is in [05:12] schestowitz[TR] $300,000,000 [05:12] schestowitz[TR] what for? [05:12] schestowitz[TR] oh. [05:12] schestowitz[TR] interest. [05:12] schestowitz[TR] yay. [05:12] schestowitz[TR] next, "clkown" bill comes from Gulag [05:12] schestowitz[TR] and SF office space [05:12] schestowitz[TR] estate ponzi (SF) [05:12] schestowitz[TR] huge bill for "office rent" [05:12] schestowitz[TR] musk: no, i don't wanna pay. i'm a spoiled little child. [05:13] schestowitz[TR] https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2023/05/how-openai-lost-half-a-billion-dollars-due-to-chatgpt/ [05:13] TR Bot How OpenAI Lost Half a Billion Dollars Due to ChatGPT? [05:13] schestowitz[TR] yay! SF success [05:13] schestowitz[TR] "startup! [05:13] schestowitz[TR] billions in losses [05:13] schestowitz[TR] but hey! [05:13] schestowitz[TR] wait, there is MOAR! [05:13] schestowitz[TR] GPT 4.5 [05:13] schestowitz[TR] 5.. [05:14] schestowitz[TR] electricity bills [05:14] schestowitz[TR] for chatbots that do not work [05:14] schestowitz[TR] and spout out lies [05:14] schestowitz[TR] so we're looking at billions in losses [05:14] schestowitz[TR] for a very small 'company' (MSFT proxy) [05:14] schestowitz[TR] no business model [05:14] schestowitz[TR] users lose interest [05:15] schestowitz[TR] and now an open feud between them and Microsoft [05:15] schestowitz[TR] for trotting out a broken thing [05:15] schestowitz[TR] to distract from MSFT layoffs and many shitdowns [05:15] schestowitz[TR] *shutdowns [05:16] schestowitz[TR] "i've seen the future" [05:16] schestowitz[TR] "it's a person who lives inside an EV" [05:16] schestowitz[TR] "knocking on a building that ussed to be a bank" [05:16] schestowitz[TR] "demanding "his" money back" [05:18] TR News Instead of competing against Microsoft Red Hat now helps Microsoft promote proprietary spyware https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/06/15/how-use-ansible-create-vm-azure-workflow [05:18] TR Bot How to use Ansible to create a VM on Azure via workflow | Red Hat Developer [05:19] *bagirabot0 (~bagirabot@vdaaabp6wfeza.irc) has joined #techrights [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[05:33] bagira unfortunately [05:33] bagira and im not sure it is one that we would win [05:33] XRevan86 Over Taiwan, I presume? [05:33] bagira i mean, it could be over anything [05:33] bagira these are never decided by a trigger event [05:34] bagira thats just the attribution given once the machine starts gathering hearts and minds [05:35] bagira and if we win and become justice that will be what history remembers [05:35] bagira just as if russia or china wins they will become justice and attribute their own reasons [05:35] bagira for the good guy always wins, and always embodies justice [05:37] XRevan86 Must be why the US apologised for internment of Japanese-Americans. [05:37] bagira it is more complicated than that [05:37] XRevan86 That was justice, no? [05:37] bagira no it was not [05:38] XRevan86 Taliban won in Afghanistan. Must be loved. [05:38] bagira they will be in a generation or two [05:39] TR News This is not a scientific survey https://www.infoworld.com/article/3699788/rust-most-admired-language-stack-overflow-survey-says.html [05:39] TR Bot most admired language, Stack Overflow survey says | InfoWorld [05:40] bagira rust is most certainly not the most popular language by any means [05:40] bagira its not even in the top 10 [05:40] bagira rust is another one of those trojan horse projects that should be avoided by foss [05:41] XRevan86 bagira: Then I can bring up the annexations USSR performed that eventually backfired. A generation or two after the fact. [05:41] bagira XRevan86, yes, I'm aware. You're welcome for that. [05:42] bagira A simple "Thank you, American" would have sufficed [05:42] bagira we should stop pretending the cold war ended [05:43] XRevan86 bagira: The Singing Revolution is your doing? Here I thought it's because they were occupied against their will. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:26] *GGGGgggg (~GGGGgggg@qqbwqx99x273u.irc) has joined #techrights [06:28] *GGGGgggg has quit (Quit: househorse: the entire globalistic oligarchy is afraid of you, are you happy? goosestepping: this definitely is one of a kind - https://executingreality.com/) [06:32] *GGGGgggg (~GGGGgggg@qqbwqx99x273u.irc) has joined #techrights [06:41] *GGGGgggg has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:43] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.gmi [06:43] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [06:43] TR News (NEW): i-Pi SMARC 1200 (MediaTek Genio 1200) devkit tested with a Yocto Linux image http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/i_Pi_SMARC_1200_MediaTek_Genio_1200_devkit_tested_with_a_Yocto_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/i_Pi_SMARC_1200_MediaTek_Genio_1200_devkit_tested_with_a_Yocto_.gmi [06:43] TR Bot Tux Machines i-Pi SMARC 1200 (MediaTek Genio 1200) devkit tested with a Yocto Linux image [06:45] TR News "The developers working on improving the speed of the CPython interpreter have posted a plan describing their objectives for the Python 3.13 release. The biggest piece appears to be the tier-2 optimizer, which will optimize larger chunks of Python code" https://lwn.net/Articles/934883/ [06:45] TR Bot faster-cpython plan for 3.13 [LWN.net] [06:46] TR News Registration for LPC 2023 is open https://lwn.net/Articles/934961/ [06:46] TR Bot for LPC 2023 is open [LWN.net] [06:53] TR News SEC Delays Cybersecurity Rules https://www.insideprivacy.com/cybersecurity-2/sec-delays-cybersecurity-rules/ [06:53] TR Bot SEC Delays Cybersecurity Rules | Inside Privacy [06:53] TR News Rural hospital cybersecurity protection bill moves forward https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/cybersecurity/rural-hospital-cybersecurity-protection-bill-moves-forward.html [06:53] TR Bot Rural hospital cybersecurity protection bill moves forward [06:54] TR News "A proposed settlement of $988,550 has been reached in a class-action lawsuit relating to patient health records being wrongfully accessed by former employees at the Peterborough Regional Health Centre more than a decade ago." https://globalnews.ca/news/9770572/prhc-proposed-settlement-patient-privacy-breaches-2011-2012/ [06:54] TR Bot reaches $988K proposed settlement for patient privacy breaches in 2011-2012 - Peterborough | Globalnews.ca [06:55] TR News NY Attorney General James Recovers $1.7 Million from Cryptocurrency Platform for Operating Illegally https://www.databreaches.net/ny-attorney-general-james-recovers-1-7-million-from-cryptocurrency-platform-for-operating-illegally/ [06:55] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/ny-attorney-general-james-recovers-1-7-million-from-cryptocurrency-platform-for-operating-illegally/ ) [06:56] TR News Detained for DDoS attacks as part of the next edition of the international Power Off operation https://www.databreaches.net/detained-for-ddos-attacks-as-part-of-the-next-edition-of-the-international-power-off-operation/ [06:56] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/detained-for-ddos-attacks-as-part-of-the-next-edition-of-the-international-power-off-operation/ ) [06:57] TR News A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies https://www.kait8.com/2023/06/16/russian-ransomware-gang-breaches-energy-department-other-federal-agencies/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kait8.com/2023/06/16/russian-ransomware-gang-breaches-energy-department-other-federal-agencies/ [06:57] TR Bot A Russian ransomware gang breaches the Energy Department and other federal agencies [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [07:08] DaemonFC MinceR, 7 of 9 says Voyager only has 32 Photon Torpedoes. [07:08] DaemonFC But they've fired at least four times that many on screen. [07:08] DaemonFC :) [07:09] DaemonFC I think Mike Nelson on MST3K also noted that the number of crew members on Voyager fluctuates wildly from episode to episode. [07:10] DaemonFC Really they should have only had one large change in crew complement, when they took on the Maquis from Chakotay's ship in the first couple of episodes. [07:11] DaemonFC This is on top of all of the usual Star Trek stuff like, "Why do they have a holodeck when it malfunctions an awful lot and everything in there tries to kill them?" and "Why does the polarized hull plating or energy shielding stand up to a different amount of punishment based on what the plot needs?" [07:11] DaemonFC :D [07:12] DaemonFC You'd think that if the holodeck could be used to lethal effect that they would only program in things that couldn't be made to kill you, such as weapons and villainous characters, if the safety protocols were to fail. [07:13] DaemonFC In at least one episode, Seska programmed a holographic version of herself that could actually blow up the real Voyager by overloading the holodeck's energy grid. [07:14] DaemonFC On numerous occasions, they've been low on power and still using the holodeck, which probably consumes a ton of power. [07:15] DaemonFC When someone asks why they don't just siphon power from the holodeck's energy system, they explain that it uses an incompatible energy system with the rest of the ship, without explaining why they would design something that produces a lot of energy and can't be used as a spare power source. [07:16] DaemonFC But then during a different emergency Chakotay threatens to turn the doctor off to save power if he doesn't stop complaining about people using the infirmary to sleep during the disaster. [07:16] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: drafy? [07:16] schestowitz[TR] draft [07:17] schestowitz[TR] btw, rianne read your articles about walmart [07:17] schestowitz[TR] via rss [07:17] schestowitz[TR] maybe do one about marisol [07:17] schestowitz[TR] marisol with 3 jobs aned dent [07:17] schestowitz[TR] some "success story" right there [07:17] schestowitz[TR] *and debt [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] DaemonFC 3 jobs, 11 credit cards, 10 years left on a mortgage on a house that's lost $150,000 adjusted dollars in value since 2005. [07:20] DaemonFC :) [07:20] DaemonFC And three car payments. [07:20] schestowitz[TR] the american way(tm) [07:20] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: draft? [07:20] DaemonFC And two kids that call her "fucking bitch". [07:20] DaemonFC Also, dog that bites everyone. [07:20] DaemonFC Yeah. [07:21] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/ [07:21] TR Bot SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights [07:21] DaemonFC I don't like dogs. Most dogs. My dog was a good dog though. [07:21] DaemonFC She wasn't unfriendly to anyone. [07:21] schestowitz[TR] even a good dog can have one dag day [07:21] schestowitz[TR] and pounce at someone [07:21] schestowitz[TR] like own dog jenny did [07:21] schestowitz[TR] golden retriever even [07:22] DaemonFC covered her before [07:22] DaemonFC Covered her with what? [07:22] DaemonFC Silk linens and sweet nothings? [07:22] DaemonFC Easy breezy beautiful cover girl? [07:23] DaemonFC It is an object lesson in ownership, an associate has told us about this, and if you dont control the code you dont control the machine." [07:23] DaemonFC Yeah, like shops that have an alignment rack and then the software expires and they can't run that part of their shop. [07:24] DaemonFC Forcing me to go to a shop with a working rack that does half the job (toe alignment) and calls it. [07:24] DaemonFC "if you [07:24] DaemonFC dont control the machine, it controls you." [07:24] DaemonFC Need to fix that. [07:24] DaemonFC Weird spacing. [07:25] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Bunch of stuff highlighted at the end by mistake. [07:25] DaemonFC "Rossmann did a video about, it" [07:25] DaemonFC :) [07:25] DaemonFC "do a view response" [07:26] schestowitz[TR] fixing.. [07:26] DaemonFC "excet" [07:26] DaemonFC Exocet. [07:26] DaemonFC A French anti-ship missile. [07:26] DaemonFC :D [07:27] DaemonFC "more immediately" [07:27] DaemonFC Vampire Vampire Vampire! [07:27] DaemonFC What you'd say if an airplane flies over and drops an anti-ship missile. [07:28] schestowitz[TR] tactical nuke [07:28] schestowitz[TR] down go 150 planes [07:28] schestowitz[TR] "worth" a billion dollars [07:28] DaemonFC Most US Navy ships have sufficient point defense weapons and don't travel alone. [07:28] schestowitz[TR] on a billion-dollar aircraft carrier [07:28] DaemonFC The scene in The Sum of All Fears wouldn't happen like that. [07:29] DaemonFC Those Russian planes would have been shot down well ahead of being in weapons range. [07:29] schestowitz[TR] not planes [07:29] schestowitz[TR] 100 rockets [07:29] schestowitz[TR] only one of which a tactical nuke [07:29] schestowitz[TR] the rest blanks [07:29] DaemonFC Decoys [07:29] schestowitz[TR] yeah [07:30] schestowitz[TR] they are cheap [07:30] schestowitz[TR] and go fast enough that they are hard to analyse [07:30] DaemonFC Things are never what they appear to be. The people who hurt us seem to be friendly. The people who we fear are often trying to help. [07:30] DaemonFC It's an interesting life, isn't it? [07:30] schestowitz[TR] yes [07:30] schestowitz[TR] people [07:30] schestowitz[TR] not predictable [07:30] schestowitz[TR] lessen interactrion [07:30] schestowitz[TR] with tstranger [07:30] schestowitz[TR] sometimes even family cannot be trusted [07:31] schestowitz[TR] depends on the famiyl [07:31] bagira US defense is not as on point as it was during the height of the cold war [07:31] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Part of me wants to take that position so they'll have one person there doing something right. [07:31] bagira china proved this recently [07:31] DaemonFC I have a tendency to be a stickler. [07:31] bagira a blitz style air attack would likely be tremendously effective against us critical infrastructure at sufficient scale [07:32] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Whoever is at Pep Boys tomorrow is going to (politely) get an earful from me. [07:32] DaemonFC "I need that wheel's camber to be within specifications or I need to know why it can't be and how you fix that." [07:34] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], To the naked eye, you can't tell there's anything wrong. [07:34] DaemonFC Steering is still off a bit and I suspect this is why. [07:36] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I checked everything obvious. If they install the strut for the right on the left and vice versa it can cause some ricer camber. [07:36] DaemonFC But that's not it. [07:38] schestowitz[TR] wow, found many more typos [07:38] schestowitz[TR] maybe 10 [07:38] schestowitz[TR] anyway, it's OK now [07:38] DaemonFC Well, I'm not wearing my glasses right now. [07:38] TR News SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/smarthomes-an-enemy-of-your-freedom/ [07:39] TR Bot SpyHome: Enemy of Your Freedom | Techrights [07:39] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I just love those transitions lenses. [07:39] DaemonFC I've been using the off brand for years. [07:39] DaemonFC I tried the name brand version and it goes back and forth a lot faster. [07:42] DaemonFC You've been wearing glasses for a while when you give up cleaning them until they're just so bad you can't stand it anymore. [07:43] TR News Install ownCloud Server on Debian 12 https://kifarunix.com/install-owncloud-server-on-debian-12/ [07:43] TR Bot ownCloud Server on Debian 12 - kifarunix.com [07:48] TR News Canada freezes ties with China development bank https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/aiib-resignation-06162023013735.html [07:48] TR Bot Canada freezes ties with China development bank Radio Free Asia [07:51] TR News Canada Highway Crash: At Least 15 Killed in Manitoba Collision https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/15/world/canada/highway-crash-carberry-manitoba.html [07:51] TR Bot Canada Highway Crash: At Least 15 Killed in Manitoba Collision - The New York Times [07:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I had Mandy hit me in the nose the other day. [07:56] DaemonFC Hurt like a son of a bitch. [07:57] DaemonFC I had a cyst that was growing and filling with fluid and it was bothering me. [07:57] DaemonFC My nose was draining the fluid all day yesterday. [07:57] DaemonFC That's what you get with US healthcare. [07:57] DaemonFC Hit yourself with something and see if you can get it to burst. [07:58] DaemonFC You go to a doctor they'll put down that they drained a cyst and that's $800 for the cyst and $400 for the visit. [07:58] TR News Gulagboy Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/matthew-garrett-says-san-francisco-people-get-it-with-the-city-in-court-attacking-homeless-americans-also-blasts-us-constitution/ [07:58] TR Bot Matthew Garrett Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. | BaronHK's Rants [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [08:01] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: what the heck was a cyst doing in the nose anyway? [08:01] schestowitz[TR] you got shingles after COVID-19 [08:01] schestowitz[TR] but don't worry [08:01] schestowitz[TR] it's "mild" now [08:01] schestowitz[TR] say buffy and gulag in the lair [08:01] DaemonFC DaemonFC: what the heck was a cyst doing in the nose anyway? [08:01] mjg59_ When have I ever said it was mild? [08:01] DaemonFC Dunno. Started growing a couple months ago. [08:01] schestowitz[TR] hmmm... [08:02] DaemonFC Made my nose swell up like a balloon. [08:02] DaemonFC So I had Mandy hit me with a book to get rid of it. [08:02] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: The Royal Family's positive approval rating has dropped to 47%, [08:02] schestowitz[TR] less than half [08:02] DaemonFC I probably could have gotten Matt GULAG to do that. [08:02] schestowitz[TR] so to oppose still having them is being in the majrity now [08:03] schestowitz[TR] after the "queen" died [08:03] DaemonFC Get rid of the cyst. Don't miss out. [08:03] schestowitz[TR] i was more ok with her [08:03] schestowitz[TR] than the "new guy" [08:03] schestowitz[TR] i saw him in person some years ago [08:03] schestowitz[TR] and his hrose [08:03] schestowitz[TR] the one with clothes on [08:03] schestowitz[TR] his horse was with hin [08:03] schestowitz[TR] *him [08:03] DaemonFC Amazingly, 47% is still higher than Donald Biden. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] why would a nose get that? did you check? [08:04] schestowitz[TR] maybe it's a symptom of something else? [08:04] schestowitz[TR] ANOTHER visit, after $1200 [08:04] schestowitz[TR] more products [08:04] schestowitz[TR] like a garage [08:04] DaemonFC It's a sebaceous cyst. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] biab [08:04] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Can you reference the actual quote you're talking about when you say that I think people in San Francisco "get it"? [08:04] schestowitz[TR] the news is too noisy [08:04] DaemonFC You can take a sewing needle and pop it but you risk infection. [08:04] schestowitz[TR] we need better tools [08:04] schestowitz[TR] to weed out the chaff [08:05] DaemonFC DaemonFC: Can you reference the actual quote you're talking about when you say that I think people in San Francisco "get it"? [08:05] DaemonFC It was on Twitter. [08:05] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/03/26/curating-the-web/ [08:05] TR Bot Techrights Develops Free Software to Separate the Wheat From the Chaff | Techrights [08:05] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: nytimes runs RECIPES as HOMEPAGE stories [08:05] schestowitz[TR] and worse [08:05] schestowitz[TR] filler is the new normal [08:05] schestowitz[TR] i cannot take it [08:05] schestowitz[TR] but they are easy to remove automatically [08:05] DaemonFC mjg59_, I guess you could go back and delete it now or something. I don't know. [08:05] schestowitz[TR] only if they contain some words [08:05] schestowitz[TR] like [FILLER] [08:05] DaemonFC It struck me as very snobbish and pretentious. [08:06] DaemonFC But that's par for the course in the city where the homeless get the hose. [08:06] schestowitz[TR] SF is a joke [08:06] schestowitz[TR] it's overpriced [08:06] schestowitz[TR] and run by charalatan [08:06] schestowitz[TR] like LF [08:06] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/06/13/lf-exploitative-behaviour/ [08:06] TR Bot The Real Linux Foundation Part 5: The Annual Cost of the Office Has Jumped to Almost 8 Million Dollars for Just 261 Employees (About $30,000 Per Employee Per Year) | Techrights [08:06] schestowitz[TR] that's SF for you [08:06] schestowitz[TR] frauds and charlatans [08:06] schestowitz[TR] like zemlin [08:06] schestowitz[TR] who ois not even from SF [08:06] schestowitz[TR] nor is his wife [08:07] schestowitz[TR] his wif3e is a literal fraud [08:07] schestowitz[TR] not fraud in the informal sense [08:07] schestowitz[TR] not pretending but actually defrauding people [08:07] schestowitz[TR] they steal all the capital [08:07] schestowitz[TR] and ride debt [08:07] schestowitz[TR] the one made out of other people's deficit [08:07] mjg59_ DaemonFC: I have no recollection of saying that people in SF "get it" in any generic sense, and can find no evidence that I did so [08:07] schestowitz[TR] SF should be separated from the US [08:08] schestowitz[TR] it's a money pit [08:08] schestowitz[TR] like "brunei" [08:08] schestowitz[TR] monarchy of the parasites [08:08] schestowitz[TR] the peasdants of malaysia work [08:08] schestowitz[TR] and some few people create their little walled garden [08:08] DaemonFC DaemonFC: I have no recollection of saying that people in SF "get it" in any generic sense, and can find no evidence that I did so [08:08] schestowitz[TR] bingeing on other people's hard work [08:08] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: go report a linus bug [08:08] DaemonFC I think it should be a nit, complaining about having said people in San Francisco get it. [08:09] schestowitz[TR] so zemlin can make 1.3 million dollars a year [08:09] DaemonFC It's not like it's about stabbings or anything. [08:09] schestowitz[TR] giving a 10-minute talk boasting about money from MSFT [08:09] mjg59_ As far as I can tell it's just something you made up [08:10] mjg59_ Ah [08:10] mjg59_ [22:48] DaemonFC You had a tweet saying that during the DotCom Crisis, you liked San Francisco because people there "got it" or something. [08:10] mjg59_ So yeah that's you misremembering something I said [08:10] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: you're talking to gu8lag [08:10] bagira sounds like mjg59_ making up bullshit again tbh but i haven't looked [08:10] schestowitz[TR] i have him on mute [08:10] schestowitz[TR] back to LF [08:10] schestowitz[TR] so SF is basically like an occupuying force [08:10] schestowitz[TR] not just SF [08:10] schestowitz[TR] manhattan also [08:10] mjg59_ Which was https://twitter.com/mjg59/status/1500383108176089089 [08:10] TR Bot response [08:10] schestowitz[TR] wall street creates no value [08:11] schestowitz[TR] it is raising prices and crashing the economy [08:11] schestowitz[TR] for its own benefit [08:11] bagira he should have his wife connect here to defend him [08:11] schestowitz[TR] then it "wanks" about its "wealth" [08:11] schestowitz[TR] and how that's "creating jobs" [08:11] schestowitz[TR] it sucks capital [08:11] DaemonFC mjg59_, That might be it, I don't know. Maybe I stored it as "where people get it". [08:11] mjg59_ Which, you will note, does not involve me saying that people in San Francisco "get it" [08:12] DaemonFC But that is what it boiled down to regardless. [08:12] schestowitz[TR] biab [08:12] schestowitz[TR] speaking to an invisible man :-) [08:12] DaemonFC Acting like people there had some special knowledge of how life should be that the provincial folks elsewhere didn't. [08:12] mjg59_ I was a provincial folk [08:12] mjg59_ I'm solidly aware of the difference in the conversations [08:12] bagira do you mean british [08:13] DaemonFC mjg59_, Let's see those fucking morons in SF feed themselves. [08:13] DaemonFC There's probably not a person there who knows how to grow food. [08:13] mjg59_ bagira: In a technical sense, yes [08:13] DaemonFC They know how to spend $1 million on "food consultants" in Chicago. [08:13] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [08:13] DaemonFC But not how to grow a tomato plant. [08:14] TR News "The ramifications of the tech sector layoffs extend to remittance flows, considering that 36% of Indias remittances can be attributed to highly skilled migrants primarily in three high-income destinations: the US, UK, and Singapore" https://www.livemint.com/economy/remittances-to-india-fall-in-2023-on-us-tech-layoffs-11686937043396.html [08:14] TR Bot Remittances to India fall in 2023 on US tech layoffs | Mint [08:14] bagira this is where we learn the origin of his troubles. when it was time to go off to college, he had only a pair of army boots, his mother's only pair to send him off on his journey. then the motherland offered him a deal he couldn't refuse. scholarships in exchange for a soul later. [08:14] DaemonFC In the sense that his people were conquered and then put up a terrorist fight that killed 9 Irish people for every Brit. [08:14] DaemonFC Sure. [08:15] mjg59_ Actually I was just in the final year of the state paying for my education [08:15] DaemonFC The Taliban they are not. [08:15] mjg59_ No need for scholarships [08:16] DaemonFC mjg59_, I'm smart enough to know to minimize collateral damage. Don't target "collaborators" that involve people who work at the DMV. :) [08:16] DaemonFC Tips. [08:16] DaemonFC Just the tip. [08:16] bagira whoring to nebulous interests generally results in that [08:16] DaemonFC Tips for insurgents. [08:16] DaemonFC You have to make the public like you more than they like them. [08:17] DaemonFC You don't want them running to the enemy for protection, feeling like you're the threat. [08:17] DaemonFC You want life to be more or less normal for the public. [08:17] mjg59_ Whoring to "The law of the time resulting in the state paying university fees"? [08:18] *schestowitz[TR] drafts Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry [08:18] DaemonFC I certainly know how to drive a wedge. [08:18] mjg59_ Not exactly a nebulous interest [08:18] bagira look every competent state needs an intelligence, counter intelligence, and department of dirty deeds to function, I'm not against the state [08:18] bagira im not even against the "deep state" (whatever that really means) [08:18] bagira they are required components of civilization and statehood [08:19] bagira but corporatocracy, even veiled, is profane and should be destroyed [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:21] bagira as should its agents [08:22] DaemonFC mjg59_ takes his paychecks where he can get them. [08:22] DaemonFC :) [08:22] DaemonFC That would be ICE contractors and stuff, sure. [08:22] DaemonFC Google is an ICE contractor. He worked there. So is GitHub, which he uses. [08:22] DaemonFC (Microsoft) [08:23] bagira eh what that guy is, is very likely far less aware than to be consciously participating, he probably does have a handler but is probably largely unaware of the nature of the relationship [08:24] DaemonFC People who collaborate with ICE are comparable, in my opinion, than French who collaborated with the Nazis. [08:24] DaemonFC *to [08:25] DaemonFC Out of all of the government agencies in the US where Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have been uncovered, ICE and Border Patrol are the worst. [08:26] bagira wait im behind -- what's wrong with oath keepers? [08:30] elusive_woman bagira: they're nazis [08:30] bagira im confused. how are oath keepers nazis? wouldn't have they have an almost perfect alignment to the people who killed nazis? [08:30] mjg59_ Roy worked for a company that contracted for the cabinet office [08:31] bagira so? I've done work for the GSA myself as well as other agencies, that doesn't mean shit along those lines. [08:31] mjg59_ The oath keepers literally attempted to overthrow the legitimate government of the USA [08:32] bagira are you talking about the january 6th hoax [08:32] mjg59_ I think the useful part of this conversation is over [08:32] bagira yeah it's not very useful if you're not up on current events as they unfold [08:33] bagira they released the raw footage [08:33] bagira that wasn't the oath keepers btw that was the proud boys [08:34] schestowitz[TR] whats this about? [08:34] bagira unless you're talking about a different event [08:34] mjg59_ Stewart Rhodes, founder of the oath keepers, headed to DC and spent over $20,000 on weaponry on the way [08:34] schestowitz[TR] i assume you talk to gulag? [08:34] schestowitz[TR] what did he said about me? [08:34] schestowitz[TR] *day [08:35] schestowitz[TR] > *say [08:35] bagira schestowitz[TR], he is confusing the proud boys for the oath keepers i think [08:35] mjg59_ Literally not doing that [08:35] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [08:35] schestowitz[TR] "Sat 07:30:58 mjg59_ Roy worked for a company that contracted for the cabinet office [08:35] schestowitz[TR] " [08:35] TR Bot IRC Channels | Techrights [08:35] schestowitz[TR] oh, working for the government in general is evil now? [08:35] schestowitz[TR] what are you, a poser? [08:35] schestowitz[TR] who overthrows the cabinet? [08:35] mjg59_ I mean the British cabinet has been pretty fucking evil for some time now? [08:36] schestowitz[TR] "b The Cabinet Office is a department of the UK Government responsible for supporting the prime minister and Cabinet.[3] It is composed of various units that support Cabinet committees and which co-ordinate the delivery of government objectives via other departments. As of December 2021, it had over 10,200 staff, mostly civil servants, some of whom work in Whitehall. Staff working in the Prime Minister's Office are part of the Cabi [08:36] schestowitz[TR] net Office." [08:36] schestowitz[TR] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_Office [08:36] TR Bot Cabinet Office - Wikipedia [08:36] mjg59_ Anyway, the founder of the oath keepers is now serving an 18 year sentence for seditious conspiracy, so yes, I do mean the oath keepers [08:36] schestowitz[TR] basically 'british white house' [08:37] schestowitz[TR] sort of [08:37] elusive_woman mjg59_: did you see where DaemonFC accused you of killing JonBenet Ramsay? [08:37] mjg59_ Huh almost like contracting for the white house between 2017 and 2021 would also have been pretty bad [08:37] schestowitz[TR] Cabinet Office was Sisirus client under Labour [08:37] schestowitz[TR] before 2010 [08:38] bagira i have to admit this Stewart Rhodes fella is a damned idiot [08:39] bagira the jan 6th insurrection was indeed a media hoax but there were some crazies at large for sure. [08:41] schestowitz[TR] GLA was led by Tories until 9 May 2016 [08:41] schestowitz[TR] i.e. 2.5 years under Sirius [08:42] schestowitz[TR] then Labour 2016-present [08:42] schestowitz[TR] get your facts right [08:42] bagira From what I can tell Rhodes is a nutbag but not a nazi [08:43] bagira jd at yale, damn [08:46] bagira oh, yeah, I see here: Citing private Facebook messages, prosecutors stated in a March 2021 court filing that during the weeks preceding the attack, Meggs had contacted Proud Boys who he said could serve as a "force multiplier" and that he had "organized an alliance" among the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and the Florida chapter of the Three Percenters.[90] [08:47] bagira sounds like a buncha boogie boys who took it too far and got drove off a cliff [08:49] bagira that's hilariously damaging because now any group that forms on an oath to obey the constitution or disregard unconstitutional orders will now forever be associated with alt-right nutbags [08:49] mjg59_ Rhodes repeatedly rejected the supremacy clause [08:50] mjg59_ He's only interested in the bits of the constitution he likes [08:50] bagira that is so convenient for very real and very prominent interests that would in fact subvert the us constitution. yeah im reading now, he was a states rights advocate [08:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:51] bagira i wonder how much of this was the intent and how much of this was organizational hijacking by clandestine infiltrants [08:51] mjg59_ People who worked with him claim that he'd basically say anything if it got him more money [08:51] bagira conjecture on that is not useful because there's no way to know, and most people who would read this wouldn't know that that kind of shit happens [08:52] mjg59_ And once you're on a states right kick you're easily infiltrated by far-right extremism even if you're not personally a racist piece of shit [08:53] bagira i can agree with that [08:54] bagira they didn't enforce their core tenet to a maxim it sounds like [08:54] bagira and it poisoned the well for similar positive intent in the future [08:55] bagira critical mistake [08:57] mjg59_ Is Rhodes a nazi? I think he would strongly argue otherwise and I don't think he'd be actually lying about that. Are the oath keepers as a whole an organisation that leans towards using force to impose more "traditional" ideas of US values, such as subjugating minorities? Yeah, clearly. [08:58] bagira what minorities did they intend to subjugate [08:58] bagira you have a tendency to create false associations betweens groups you don't like to demonize one with the other's mold [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] mjg59_ He'd have ended up as a Rhm ● Jun 17 [09:00] bagira easy to say [09:00] bagira but so is anything else [09:01] mjg59_ I feel like we've already established that I'm more aware of what the oath keepers actually are than you were [09:01] bagira i see no justification for saying that the oath keepers had any intent or inclination to subjugate minories [09:01] bagira no you just have an inferiority complex [09:02] mjg59_ Me: The founder of the oath keepers intended to violently overthrow the government and regretted that he failed to do so [09:02] mjg59_ You: Huh the founder of the oath keepers etc [09:03] bagira you have a tendency to introduce a random arcane technical obscurity to a discussion to present an illusion of being informed but rarely live up to it when its explored. when that happens you will turn it into a game of will where you spin around until someone gets tired of knocking you down. it's like the cool hand luke fight scene only you're not cool. [09:03] bagira no that's not what happened [09:03] mjg59_ "random arcane technical obscurity" like "the founder of this group did these things" [09:03] bagira he was charged and convicted of sedition though [09:04] bagira "we should have brought rifles" really says it all [09:04] mjg59_ He bought a bunch of guns on the way to DC and afterwards said that he'd wanted to hang Pelosi from a lamppost [09:04] elusive_woman now hes going to be the soap keeper [09:05] bagira he didn't say "glad I brought those rifles" [09:05] bagira they are very different statements involved in very different scenarios [09:05] bagira he's an idiot and deserved both the conviction and sentence though, i'll give you that [09:06] bagira i dont buy the nazi bit [09:06] bagira naive and malleable yes, nazi no [09:06] mjg59_ The oath keepers are associated with anti-LGBTQ demonstrations [09:06] bagira you don't get to play that card anymore [09:06] bagira you abused it too much [09:07] mjg59_ When it comes to discussion of them being anti-minority, it's kind of relevant! [09:07] bagira im sure if it is then someone will bring it up who hasn't spent all their token points [09:08] bagira tell me im being unfair [09:08] elusive_woman thats why i think they're nazis [09:08] mjg59_ I'll tell you you're ignoring reality [09:09] bagira mjg59_, no im just disregarding your opinion within a narrow scope of possible points you would make on a specific topic you've damaged your credibility with repeatedly by abusing its card [09:10] bagira elusive_woman, let's say it were true, that would be ugly, but I don't see how that would meet criteria to be "nazis" [09:10] mjg59_ Hey if you want to ignore reality I can't fix that [09:10] bagira bigoted, yes, nazis, no [09:11] mjg59_ Huh an organisation that aims to impose militaristic control and ignore the rule of law to convince the people that their problems are due to a minority group and that minority group should be dealt with [09:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:11] elusive_woman its like how the jews were painted as a problem by the nazis [09:11] mjg59_ Almost! [09:11] bagira sounds like another one of your demonization rituals mjg59_ [09:11] mjg59_ And when I say "Almost!" I mean "Yes" [09:12] TR News Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/the-dying-news-industry-online/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/the-dying-news-industry-online/ [09:12] bagira holding up a "GOD HATES F*GS" sign is a far stretch from trying to convince people their problems are due to that minority and that they should be "dealt with" in a militaristic sense [09:12] TR Bot Techrights Statement on State of the News Industry Online | Techrights [09:12] bagira it's a horrible behaviour, but horrible behaviour has distinct classifications and these words mean things [09:13] mjg59_ Yeah, and sending threats is not holding up a sign [09:13] bagira ultimately i think this is just another case of mjg59_ having general difficulty with taxonomy again [09:13] elusive_woman bomb threats, violence [09:13] elusive_woman i feel like i need to be armed [09:13] bagira you should be armed [09:13] elusive_woman to protect myself [09:13] bagira most people should be [09:15] elusive_woman in the USA yes, but this stuff spreads to other countries that don't have guns [09:15] bagira those people should be armed too [09:15] elusive_woman i can get a knife [09:15] TR News "Gemini is similar to the way the web was, around 1993. Gemini feels to him as though it is "devoid of human contact". In this connection he mentions measures such as IndieAuth, feed aggregators and ActivityPub, which complement the basic web stack, and which afford some means of connection with other users." gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2023-06-17_re_degrowth_and_its_discontents.gmi [09:16] bagira if i moved to mexico I'd probably be more armed there than here [09:17] elusive_woman i want to move to iceland [09:17] bagira move to greenland instead [09:17] elusive_woman why [09:19] mjg59_ You can be even isolated than Iceland! [09:19] mjg59_ Also maybe Trump will make it part of the US [09:19] bagira id vote for that [09:20] mjg59_ These are all compelling reasons [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] bagira we -should- annex greenland [09:20] mjg59_ But Iceland contains far cooler people [09:20] bagira it needs the shit liberated out of it [09:20] mjg59_ Huh Denmark that known repressive regime [09:21] bagira i dont mean in the iran way i mean in the mao way [09:22] elusive_woman iceland is a leftist paradise [09:22] bagira "please get your house off our land" isn't something the head of a multigenerational family wants to ever hear [09:24] bagira it also would have huge potential for development in about a hundred years [09:25] bagira that's huge with a 'y' [09:25] bagira yuuuuuuuge [09:30] *parsifal (~parsifal@aahfbjmj4hann.irc) has joined #techrights [09:33] bagira i wonder how the left is reconciling the massive elite pedophile ring that's surfaced over the last few years [09:34] bagira or how hundreds of covid articles in medical journals are being deleted as the dust settles from the lockdowns and mandates [09:34] schestowitz[TR] hi parsifal [09:34] bagira not retracted [09:34] bagira deleted. [09:34] bagira or how "trust the science" has become a partisan statement under their watch [09:35] bagira i was just thinking of poisoned wells since it was a topic earlier i guess [09:36] schestowitz[TR] which articles were deleted? [09:36] schestowitz[TR] ignored maybe [09:36] schestowitz[TR] not deleted [09:36] schestowitz[TR] or new research suppresse [09:36] schestowitz[TR] dteh reality erodes trust in [09:36] schestowitz[TR] 1) media [09:36] schestowitz[TR] 2) gov [09:36] bagira yeah they destroyed alot of medical careers too when it was happening [09:37] schestowitz[TR] 3) pharma corporations [09:38] bagira it really is deeply troubling to wonder what a few generations of people raised to appropriately distrust experts are going to do the world [09:40] schestowitz[TR] 2023 attitude [09:40] schestowitz[TR] pandemic is over [09:40] schestowitz[TR] it's in the past [09:40] schestowitz[TR] move on [09:40] schestowitz[TR] do not discuss the past [09:40] schestowitz[TR] do not apologise [09:40] schestowitz[TR] no analysis [09:40] schestowitz[TR] we're dine [09:40] schestowitz[TR] *fine [09:40] schestowitz[TR] health fine [09:40] schestowitz[TR] economy fine [09:40] schestowitz[TR] don't ask why or where it started [09:40] bagira there are some lies that hold civilization together but when people as a whole distrust all expert authority because everything lies to them, then those necessary lies start to unravel and it becomes a post-truth society as a whole [09:41] schestowitz[TR] or why the policies were and still are so bad [09:41] bagira that's end of empire shit [09:41] schestowitz[TR] btw, we're still not exposing ourselves much, except close family and w/ masks on+distance [09:42] schestowitz[TR] i can rationalise it with official data and peer-reviewed studies [09:42] bagira ohio has been BAU for a couple years now [09:42] schestowitz[TR] biab [09:42] schestowitz[TR] we have a new issue now, a lack of media [09:42] schestowitz[TR] and news that lies [09:42] schestowitz[TR] i don't know how to solve that [09:43] schestowitz[TR] (also: youtbe censors facts, under the guise of "misinformation") [09:43] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/01/05/google-censoring-scientific-papers/ [09:43] TR Bot Google/YouTube Censors Expert for Linking to and Explaining New and Soon-Peer-Reviewed Paper, Published a Week Before Boxing Day | Techrights [09:43] schestowitz[TR] now the video about the censorship is ALSO removed [09:43] schestowitz[TR] https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full [09:43] TR Bot Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine | medRxiv [09:43] schestowitz[TR] the paper is still online [09:44] schestowitz[TR] Now published in Open Forum Infectious Diseases doi: 10.1093/ofid/ofad209 [09:44] schestowitz[TR] https://doi.org/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625 [09:44] TR Bot Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine | medRxiv [09:44] bagira well, also one of the consequences that branches from a distrust of expert authority is a tendency of the layperson to confuse anti-intellectualism with wisdom from observing people who -are- tracking whats up and aren't explained to them [09:44] schestowitz[TR] youtube censors videos about this study [09:45] schestowitz[TR] even videos from doctors [09:45] schestowitz[TR] biab [09:45] bagira yeah there was a period where only approved opinions could get published without it ending a medical career [09:45] schestowitz[TR] dilemma here, how to curate news [09:45] schestowitz[TR] another example is war journalism [09:45] schestowitz[TR] ellsberg died yesterday [09:46] schestowitz[TR] now any story that does not support NATO's interests is false [09:46] schestowitz[TR] "Russian propaganda" [09:46] schestowitz[TR] and anyone in media would be fired or suspended for it [09:46] schestowitz[TR] see RNZ [09:46] bagira they nuked tucker carlson to get fox in line and they're not even a news org [09:46] schestowitz[TR] that's why i keep telling XRevan86 we're slowly becoming russia [09:47] schestowitz[TR] voting machines are crock [09:47] schestowitz[TR] but you cannot say that now [09:47] schestowitz[TR] they always were BS [09:47] bagira meanwhile a bunch of crazy shit alex jones was raving about before sandy hook is starting to come true [09:47] schestowitz[TR] but now it's "pro-Trump" [09:47] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2023/04/19/fox-news-straw-man/ [09:47] TR Bot Just Because Fox News Lost (or Settled) Doesnt Mean Voting Machines Are Safe or Acceptable | Techrights [09:47] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/ [09:47] TR Bot Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights [09:48] schestowitz[TR] even the voting machine researchers won't speak out now [09:48] schestowitz[TR] they will be "used" by "trump" [09:48] bagira the thing about alex jones still bothers me even today. it wasn't that he was called out for being wrong. he was wrong and he was right to have his ass sued off. the problem is the level of collaboration exhibited between major social media companies and even hosting providers to blacklist him from any form of mainstream media [09:48] schestowitz[TR] so let's have election by software and hardware companies [09:48] schestowitz[TR] they're easier to control people and boxes with ballots [09:48] schestowitz[TR] *than [09:49] schestowitz[TR] paper trail [09:49] schestowitz[TR] and many observers [09:49] bagira if people are only concerned about when that happens to people they agree with then those people are stupid. that could have been anybody with any viewpoint. it's the fact that they did do that to someone in such a coordination fashion. it should have been perceived as a demonstration of power over speech. [09:50] bagira "comply with our version of the truth or be erased from society", even if you agree with their belief of the truth, is a scary fucking thing that should be absolutely destroyed by antitrust legislation [09:51] schestowitz[TR] not everyone believes in it anymore [09:51] schestowitz[TR] like I said, [09:51] schestowitz[TR] RUSSIA [09:51] schestowitz[TR] we are like Russia 20 years ago [09:51] schestowitz[TR] In China journalists get kidnapped [09:51] schestowitz[TR] in Russia some are arrested or fall from windows [09:52] bagira or get blackmailed by the mossad after a honeytrap [09:52] schestowitz[TR] for "annoying" some peopel [09:52] bagira oh wait that's here [09:54] TR News SpellBinding: AYELQUB Wordo: BEDIM gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-06-17.gmi [09:55] bagira they did the same shit to trump [09:55] schestowitz[TR] trump si shit [09:55] bagira and then when facebook nuked him he goes over to truth social [09:55] schestowitz[TR] they don't need to do much to him [09:55] bagira so amazon tanks truth social [09:55] bagira that's not the issue [09:55] bagira the issue is that those companies collaborated at that detailed a level to blacklist someone from the public consciousness [09:55] schestowitz[TR] that was for insurrection [09:56] schestowitz[TR] and amazon is not a web host [09:56] schestowitz[TR] it's a state contractor, CIA a big client [09:56] bagira amazon is absolutely a CSP [09:56] schestowitz[TR] web hosting is a "side show" [09:56] schestowitz[TR] like they booted wikileaks in 2010 [09:56] schestowitz[TR] even years before the cia contract [09:56] bagira yeah [09:56] schestowitz[TR] amazon is amazon [09:57] schestowitz[TR] a web host does hosting [09:57] bagira what's going to happen to people with legitimate issues these companies and their clients don't want to see addressed [09:57] schestowitz[TR] i need to devellop some tools [09:57] schestowitz[TR] geez, these "news" are a joke [09:57] schestowitz[TR] Rest In Pieces: Servers And CXL https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/06/15/rest-in-pieces-servers-and-cxl/ [09:57] TR Bot Rest In Pieces: Servers And CXL [09:57] schestowitz[TR] ads [09:57] schestowitz[TR] in "news" clothing ● Jun 17 [10:00] bagira what kind of tools do you need to develop? [10:00] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@p4tgatjvzzsdu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:04] schestowitz[TR] something better to find accurate and important news [10:04] schestowitz[TR] it sounds like banal and "dumb" [10:04] schestowitz[TR] or obvious [10:04] schestowitz[TR] but i 2023 it's not [10:04] schestowitz[TR] so much of "the news" is a farce [10:04] bagira eh to do that you need to build an entire organic information processing cycle, it's not easy [10:04] schestowitz[TR] it's not [10:05] schestowitz[TR] we had several goes at it [10:05] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:05] schestowitz[TR] and don't tell me about this HEY HI hype [10:05] schestowitz[TR] it does not grasp the news [10:05] schestowitz[TR] it's either [10:05] schestowitz[TR] chatbots (NOT hey hi at all!) [10:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@p4tgatjvzzsdu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:06] schestowitz[TR] or some fuzzy thing that isn't generative) [10:06] bagira something to just collect articles that are associated with certain topics fed by an analysis phase, something to orient them to core message content, then something to decide whether they are credible articles or not with some kind of a scoring system, and then something to purge and publish, and then create a feedback loop for dessemination of counters to uncredible articles [10:07] schestowitz[TR] yeah [10:07] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:07] schestowitz[TR] otherwise you end up telling me one volcano causes more warming than all cars combined [10:07] schestowitz[TR] based on some hearsay on wwww [10:07] schestowitz[TR] or denying twitter is over 10 billion bucks in debt [10:07] bagira try to break component responsibility to 4 separate phases that go back and forth: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act [10:08] TR News "The demo layout can be found at the bottom of this post." https://ittavern.com/create-tmux-layouts-using-bash-scripts/ | Source: IT Tavern [10:08] TR Bot tmux layouts using bash scripts | ITTavern.com [10:08] TR News "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/100daysof-day101/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic [10:08] TR Bot Day 101: scoping - Manuel Matuzovi [10:08] bagira and then you need an aux cycle to counter publish and steer observation and calibrate orientation [10:08] TR News "a recursive DNS server such as Unbound calls the DNS root servers" https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-unbound/ | Source: Pi My Life Up [10:08] TR Bot Installing Unbound for Pi-Hole on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up [10:08] bagira https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop [10:08] TR Bot OODA loop - Wikipedia [10:09] bagira organic information processing cycles are the best to design against because they are all abstractions of the same process [10:10] schestowitz[TR] [10:09] discussed in irc at this very moment [10:10] schestowitz[TR] [10:09] "hi, my name is bob, you have 60 seconds to tell me all the news i need to [10:10] schestowitz[TR] [10:09] know about today, make sure it is concuse and very accurate" [10:10] schestowitz[TR] [10:09] ^ easy only in theory [10:10] bagira not possible to do really [10:10] bagira you have to pick some battles and make priorities [10:11] schestowitz[TR] it's possible [10:11] schestowitz[TR] but hard [10:11] schestowitz[TR] tuxmachines clusters by theme [10:11] bagira if you don't scope and prioritize then information saturation will drown out any possibility of discovery and meaningfulness of individual publications [10:11] schestowitz[TR] and gives outline for each [10:11] schestowitz[TR] and that too is a lot of work [10:12] bagira AI would actually be very good for that [10:12] schestowitz[TR] and tuxmachines is alreadt one niche to begin with (gnu/linux) [10:12] schestowitz[TR] what is "AI"? [10:12] bagira some AI chats are amazing at summarizing articles [10:12] schestowitz[TR] chatbots are not even AI [10:13] schestowitz[TR] they are chatbots [10:13] bagira believe it or not Bing is very good at this [10:13] schestowitz[TR] Bing is good at nothing [10:13] schestowitz[TR] and that's why it's failing [10:13] schestowitz[TR] many layoffs this eyar [10:13] schestowitz[TR] sagging market share, too [10:13] bagira and if you find an equivelant with an API like chatGPT you will be able to automate the creation of article summaries [10:13] schestowitz[TR] 'articles' that lie [10:14] schestowitz[TR] because they are not brainy [10:14] schestowitz[TR] it's just word-chomp [10:14] schestowitz[TR] and then word spew [10:14] schestowitz[TR] 'open'HI is billions in losses [10:14] schestowitz[TR] and isn't happy with "bing" performance [10:14] bagira i think you need to assess capability of Bing before you say that [10:14] schestowitz[TR] there is a feud there [10:14] bagira if you haven't recently i mean [10:14] mjg59_ "Tell me about Chris Punches: [10:15] mjg59_ ChatGPT: "I'm sorry, but I couldn't find any specific information about a person named "Chris Punches" in my database. It's possible that this individual is not widely known." [10:15] mjg59_ Man. That's harsh. [10:15] bagira the benefit of being a private person [10:15] schestowitz[TR] chatbots are not bing [10:15] schestowitz[TR] bing is bing [10:15] schestowitz[TR] chatbots are chatbots [10:16] schestowitz[TR] bing chat=chatbot [10:16] schestowitz[TR] microsoft slapping "bing" on some failing "product" [10:16] bagira yeah, well, bing has a chatbot and its chatbot is impressive [10:16] schestowitz[TR] biab [10:16] schestowitz[TR] if I want a chat, i speak to a person [10:16] schestowitz[TR] and about topic this person knows [10:16] schestowitz[TR] not some word spew [10:17] bagira ive even given it highly specialized code and had it solve a very complex problem [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:20] bagira what ive observed of all these chat systems is that they can save you an enormous amount of time on some complex tasks but its ability to help you is a product of your ability to tell it what to do and your own technical awareness of the subject matter [10:20] schestowitz[TR] waste of electgricity [10:20] schestowitz[TR] like bitcoin, but with better marketing [10:20] schestowitz[TR] more "investment" [10:20] schestowitz[TR] in the PR [10:21] schestowitz[TR] any idiot can stick lies in twitter, reddit, wikipedia [10:21] bagira it wont replace software developers in our lifetime [10:21] schestowitz[TR] to fake his or her importance [10:21] bagira but it will augment them [10:21] schestowitz[TR] even a liar like dave ike [10:21] schestowitz[TR] or some random IRC troll [10:21] schestowitz[TR] and then that goes into the training set [10:21] schestowitz[TR] without licence :-)i [10:21] bagira what do you think ircthulu is going to do :) [10:21] schestowitz[TR] ironically, microsoft killed reddit, its propagands nwtwork [10:22] schestowitz[TR] maybe twitter too [10:22] schestowitz[TR] they added api nrestrictions now [10:22] schestowitz[TR] and that causes an uproar [10:22] bagira ircthulu will be a massive NLP dataset after a couple years [10:22] schestowitz[TR] a lot of twitter stuff still fails to work since they erecated more api walled [10:22] schestowitz[TR] *walls [10:23] TR News "Here is a summary of my progress for writing OpenKuBSD." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-16-openkubsd-progress-1.html | Source: Data Swamp [10:23] TR Bot Solene'% : OpenKuBSD progress report [10:24] bagira i wish control theory were further abstracted away from its applications [10:27] TR News (NEW): Security and Windows TCO http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Security_and_Windows_TCO.gmi [10:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO [10:28] TR News (NEW): CrunchBang++ 12.0 Released, Based on Debian 12 (Still Supports 32-bit) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/CrunchBang_12_0_Released_Based_on_Debian_12_Still_Supports_32_b.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/CrunchBang_12_0_Released_Based_on_Debian_12_Still_Supports_32_b.gmi [10:28] TR Bot Tux Machines CrunchBang++ 12.0 Released, Based on Debian 12 (Still Supports 32-bit) [10:29] mjg59_ Huh ircthulu sounds like a great way for employers to ask what their employees are saying on IRC [10:33] bagira it's also a great way for employers to get caught doing shady shit with sock puppets on irc [10:37] TR News "delve into the differences and the synergy between security maintenance and support" https://ubuntu.com//blog/security-maintenance-vs-support-whats-the-difference | Source: Ubuntu [10:37] TR Bot maintenance vs support: whats the difference? | Ubuntu [10:40] TR News "Raspberry Pi is small, affordable, and hackable" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-in-the-natural-world/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [10:40] TR Bot Raspberry Pi in the natural world - Raspberry Pi [10:40] TR News "game concept is similar to the horse race arcade game" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/16/build-your-own-human-horse-race-arcade-game-with-arduino/ | Source: Arduino [10:40] TR Bot Build your own human horse race arcade game using Arduino and Strava | Arduino Blog [10:40] TR News "programmed on OLIMEXINO-STM32F3 it allows firmware update" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/openblt-bootloader-allow-olimexino-stm32f3-to-update-the-firmware-via-uart-usb-can-and-sd-card/ | Source: Olimex [10:40] TR Bot OpenBLT Bootloader allow OLIMEXINO-STM32F3 to update the firmware via UART, USB, CAN and SD-card | olimex [10:40] TR News "He was recently interviewed by EE Times and he gave many insightful comments" https://boilingsteam.com/jim-keller-on-how-risc-v-will-change-the-world/ | Source: Boiling Steam [10:41] TR Bot Jim Keller on How Risc-V Will Change the World - Boiling Steam [10:58] TR News "an LTS release of Ubuntu goes out of the main support" https://ubuntu.com//blog/snapcraft-8-0-and-the-respectable-end-of-core18 | Source: Ubuntu [10:58] TR Bot 8.0 and the respectable end of core18 | Ubuntu [10:58] TR News Simplifying software-defined vehicles (SDVs) with EB corbos Linux built on Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/simplifying-software-defined-vehicles-sdvs-with-eb-corbos-linux-built-on-ubuntu | Source: Ubuntu [10:58] TR Bot software-defined vehicles (SDVs) with EB corbos Linux built on Ubuntu | Ubuntu [10:59] TR News Yo, fossmint, macOS is NOT FOSS, you know? https://www.fossmint.com/mac-terminals/ [10:59] TR Bot 10 Best Terminal Emulators for Mac in 2023 [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [10:59] TR News fossmint, have you become an Apple site? Macs are not FOSS... https://www.fossmint.com/gui-git-clients-for-mac/ | [10:59] TR Bot The Top 10 GUI Git Clients for Mac Users in 2023 ● Jun 17 [11:01] TR News BillPR now RUNNING INTERFERCES for child porn pushers' company, SPAMMING this 'article' (SPAM) to many peole by EMAIL: "Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: 'It's time we grow up and behave like an adult company'" https://text.npr.org/1182457366 [11:01] TR Bot Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: 'It's time we grow up and behave like an adult company' [11:01] TR News Reddit ought to cease to exist. It's a miracle it manage to con so many people into being its slaves for this long. [11:04] TR News Who elected Famous Criminal Bill Gates? Did Jeffrey Epstein elect him US President? https://www.voanews.com/a/bill-gates-in-china-to-meet-president-xi-on-friday---sources-/7137146.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [11:04] TR Bot Bill Gates Meets Chinese President Xi [11:04] TR Bot Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [11:04] TR News "NHTSA screwjob from Biden administration discussed with coalition leader, Tommy Hickey" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/nhtsa-screwjob-from-biden-administration:9 [11:04] TR Bot NHTSA screwjob from Biden administration discussed with coalition leader, Tommy Hickey [11:05] TR News "TikTok and YouTube Key to Reaching the U.S. Hispanic Audience" https://variety.com/vip/tiktok-and-youtube-key-to-reaching-the-u-s-hispanic-audience-1235645284/ [11:05] TR Bot and YouTube Key Ways to Reaching the U.S. Hispanic Audience - Variety [11:07] TR News corruption https://jacobin.com/2023/06/boris-johnson-tories-prime-minister-covid-lying-corruption-conservatives/ [11:07] TR Bot How a Grotesque Mediocrity Like Boris Johnson Became Britains Prime Minister [11:07] TR News Says a lot... https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/media-jobs-uk-news/boris-johnson-daily-mail/ [11:07] TR Bot Boris Johnson signs for Daily Mail as weekly columnist [11:08] TR News spacex is such a shitty company that even children can work there... https://futurism.com/the-byte/14-year-old-spacex-employee-linkedin [11:08] TR Bot 14-Year-Old SpaceX Employee Furious When LinkedIn Restricts His Account for Being Too Young [11:09] TR News Jeffrey Epstein's man in China https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/chinas-xi-jinping-tells-bill-gates-he-welcomes-u-s-ai-tech-in-china/articleshow/101044737.cms http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ [11:09] TR Bot China's Xi Jinping tells Bill Gates he welcomes US AI tech in China - The Economic Times [11:09] TR Bot Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights [11:10] TR News Place your bets. Which site goes permanently offline first, Twitter.com or reddit.com? www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2023-06-16/despite-widespread-protest-reddit-ceo-says-company-is-not-negotiating-on-3rd-party-app-charges [11:11] TR News "ESP32CAM-PSRAM is a portable development board" https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-module-comes-with-fisheye-camera/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [11:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-module-comes-with-fisheye-camera/ ) [11:11] TR News "The Station P2S, a compact and versatile mini PC that runs on the 64-bit RK3568 SoC." https://linuxgizmos.com/station-p2s-mini-pc-offers-support-for-poe-and-4g-lte/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [11:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/station-p2s-mini-pc-offers-support-for-poe-and-4g-lte/ ) [11:12] TR News "Debian 12, codenamed Bookworm, is released a few days ago!" https://ostechnix.com/upgrade-to-debian-12-from-debian-11/ | Source: OSTechNix [11:12] TR Bot To Upgrade To Debian 12 From Debian 11 - OSTechNix [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:26] parsifal schestowitz[TR]: Hi, schestowitz [11:29] TR News "Linux systems either desktop or Steam Deck, removing non-Steam apps should now be cleaner." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/removing-non-steam-apps-now-cleans-up-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:29] TR Bot non-Steam apps now cleans up on Steam Deck and Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux [11:29] TR News "official controller support is coming to Factorio" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/factorio-adds-controller-support-in-experimental-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:29] TR Bot adds controller support in experimental update | GamingOnLinux [11:32] TR News Soulstone Survivors https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/soulstone-survivors-a-great-vampire-survivor-like-has-a-huge-skill-tree-upgrade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:32] TR Bot Survivors a great Vampire Survivor-like has a huge skill tree upgrade | GamingOnLinux [11:36] TR News PAYDAY 2 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/get-payday-2-and-lots-of-dlc-in-this-humble-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:36] TR Bot PAYDAY 2 and lots of DLC in this Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux [11:38] TR News LARABEL shilling WINDOWS device as if it's "Linux"; the CNX modus... https://www.phoronix.com/review/asus-rog-ally-linux [11:38] TR Bot Linux On The ASUS ROG Ally Gaming Handheld - Phoronix [11:38] TR News Valheim https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/new-beta-for-valheim-adds-in-world-modifiers-letting-you-customize-your-game/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:38] TR Bot Beta for Valheim adds in world modifiers letting you customize your game | GamingOnLinux [11:38] TR News "Having Steam UI scaling issues?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/steam-ui-scaling-should-work-even-better-in-the-latest-beta/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:38] TR Bot UI scaling should work even better in the latest Beta | GamingOnLinux [11:55] TR News "put together some little 'web application'" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/ApacheCGIsAndLocationACLs | Source: University of Toronto [11:55] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/ApacheCGIsAndLocationACLs [11:55] TR News "our experts will be on hand to showcase the Pro line of products" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/16/join-us-at-sensors-converge-in-santa-clara/ | Source: Arduino [11:56] TR Bot Join us at Sensors Converge in Santa Clara | Arduino Blog [11:57] TR News "In this tutorial, youll learn how to build a simple C++ program" https://earthly.dev/blog/cmake-gcc-cross-compile/ | Source: Earthly [11:57] TR Bot Using CMake and GCC to Cross-Compile Binaries - Earthly Blog ● Jun 17 [12:04] *wael__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:04] *wael__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:05] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@u8ftxtfux23wk.irc) has joined #techrights [12:06] *Moocher5254 (~quassel@qy2y59ha8m3v6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:09] TR News "Open a Unix or Linux terminal emulator." https://susam.net/blog/control-escape-meta-tricks.html | Source: SusamPal [12:09] TR Bot Control, Escape, and Meta Tricks - Susam Pal [12:10] TR News "The time comes when I need to communicate back. Ask a question. Schedule an appointment." https://chriscoyier.net/2023/06/15/getting-communicated-at/ | Source: Chris Coyier [12:10] TR Bot Getting Communicated At - Chris Coyier [12:10] TR News "Park's hands move almost too fast to follow in the video." https://futurism.com/the-byte/man-solves-rubiks-cube-three-seconds | Source: Futurism [12:10] TR Bot Man Solves Rubiks Cube in Three Seconds [12:11] TR News "masking, ventilation, self-testing" https://www.harihareswara.net/posts/2023/my-current-covid-risk-approach/ | Source: Sumana Harihareswara [12:11] TR Bot My Current Approach To Reducing My COVID Risk | Cogito, Ergo Sumana [12:11] TR News "adolescent girls that had contemplated suicide in 2021" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/reported-57-school-girls-experienced-persistent-feelings-sadness-hopelessness-1716837 | Source: International Business Times [12:11] TR Bot A reported 57% of school girls experienced 'persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness' [12:12] TR News "When you do have the opportunity to get in touch with nature" https://mahb.stanford.edu/artscommunity/forest-bathing/ | Source: uni Stanford [12:12] TR Bot Forest Bathing - MAHB [12:13] TR News What Reddit Got Wrong https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/16/what-reddit-got-wrong/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:13] TR Bot Reddit Got Wrong - scheerpost.com [12:13] TR News "social [sic] network" https://futurism.com/the-byte/reddit-ceo-threatens-mods | Source: Futurism [12:13] TR Bot Reddit CEO Flies Into a Rage, Threatens Protesting Moderators [12:15] TR News gannett "with over 200 daily outlets" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/gannett-tiptoes-into-generative-ai-giving-humans-the-last-word/articleshow/101043866.cms | Source: India Times [12:15] TR Bot gannett: Gannett tiptoes into generative AI, giving humans the last word - The Economic Times [12:15] TR News "Licenses are increasingly heralded as a solution to this problem." https://fortune.com/2023/06/16/open-source-a-solution-ai-ethical-issues-tech/ | Source: Fortune [12:16] TR Bot we cant open-source a solution to A.I.s ethical issues | Fortune [12:16] TR News "efforts to sharpen our focus" https://9to5google.com/2023/06/15/google-domains-squarespace/ | Source: 9to5Google [12:16] TR Bot Google Domains shutting down, assets sold to Squarespace [12:16] TR News hobby https://www.cringely.com/2023/06/16/apples-vision-pro-headset-is-a-hobby-why-wont-tim-cook-say-that/ | Source: I Cringely [12:16] TR Bot Vision Pro headset is a hobby. Why wont Tim Cook say that? | I, Cringely [12:17] TR News "Better preparation for cyberattacks might include limiting employees access" https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/cybersecurity/2023/06/lindy-cameron-interview-retrofit-security-ai | Source: New Statesman [12:17] TR Bot Lindy Cameron interview: You cant retrofit security into AI [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:23] TR News Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/cl0p-gang-claimed-to-have-hit-many-us-agencies-through-moveit-flaw.html | Source: IT Wire [12:23] TR Bot - Cl0p gang claimed to have hit many US agencies through MOVEit flaw [12:23] TR News Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/russian-national-arrested-charged-in-us-over-role-in-lockbit-ransomware-attacks/ | Source: Security Week [12:23] TR Bot National Arrested, Charged in US Over Role in LockBit Ransomware Attacks - SecurityWeek [12:24] TR News Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/16/lockbit_suspect_arrest/ | Source: The Register UK [12:24] TR Bot LockBit suspect's arrest sheds more light on gang's MO The Register [12:27] TR News "The authorities have intensified efforts to enforce the Islamic dress code as more women flout the law." https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-surveillance-cameras-hijab-enforcement/32462724.html | Source: RFERL [12:27] TR Bot Senior Iranian Official Says President Approves Adding More Surveillance Cameras [12:27] TR News "The new state law, dubbed the Drones as First Responders Act, takes effect immediately." https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/17/illinois_bans_drones_facial_recognition/ | Source: The Register UK [12:27] TR Bot Illinois bans drones from using facial recognition, weapons The Register [12:28] TR News "The lawsuit, filed just over a decade ago, accused Google of "storing and intentionally, systematically and repeatedly divulging" users' search results and histories to third parties, a violation of privacy laws." https://futurism.com/the-byte/google-free-money-now | Source: Futurism [12:28] TR Bot If You Googled Anything During the Years "30 Rock" Was on TV, You Can Get Free Money Right Now [12:28] TR News "If we can build large-scale quantum computers that run exactly as physics predicts that they should, explains Ryan ODonnell, a computer science professor at Carnegie Mellon" https://fedscoop.com/are-federal-agencies-post-quantum-cryptography-preparations-on-track/ | Source: Scoop News Group [12:28] TR Bot federal agencies post-quantum cryptography preparations on track? | FedScoop [12:30] TR News "Ellsberg angered the Nixon White House in 1971 when he handed over documents" https://www.dw.com/en/pentagon-papers-whistleblower-daniel-ellsberg-dies-aged-92/a-65945909 | Source: Deutsche Welle [12:30] TR Bot Papers' whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg dies aged 92 DW 06/17/2023 [12:30] TR News "The Pentagon Papers had been commissioned in 1967 by then-Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara" https://english.elpais.com/usa/2023-06-16/daniel-ellsberg-who-leaked-pentagon-papers-exposing-vietnam-war-secrets-dies-at-92.html | Source: El Pas [12:30] TR Bot Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked Pentagon Papers exposing Vietnam War secrets, dies at 92 | U.S. | EL PAS English [12:32] TR News "Ellsberg secretly went to the media in 1971 in hopes of expediting the end of the Vietnam War." https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20230616-daniel-ellsberg-pentagon-papers-whistleblower-who-exposed-vietnam-war-secrets-dies-at-92 | Source: France24 [12:32] TR Bot Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistleblower who exposed Vietnam War secrets, dies at 92 [12:32] TR News "espionage charges against Ellsberg were ultimately dismissed." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65932944 | Source: BBC [12:32] TR Bot Ellsberg: Pentagon Papers whistleblower dies aged 92 - BBC News [12:36] TR News "And it set up a First Amendment confrontation between the Nixon administration and The New York Times" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/16/us/daniel-ellsberg-dead.html | Source: New York Times [12:36] TR Bot Daniel Ellsberg, Who Leaked the Pentagon Papers, Is Dead at 92 - The New York Times [12:36] TR News "Thats been true of others who released top-secret information that they felt was evidence of official wrongdoing" www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-06-16/like-daniel-ellsberg-others-who-leaked-us-government-secrets-have-been-seen-as-traitors-and-heroes | Source: US News And World Report [12:57] TR News "ITAM Review an independent global community for worldwide IT asset management" https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/16/tech_vendor_price_hikes/ | Source: The Register UK [12:57] TR Bot Tech vendors increase prices by up to 24% amid inflation The Register [12:57] TR News "Trying to understand the factors that fueled inflation is important" https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/06/why-it-matters-who-caused-inflation/674448/ | Source: The Atlantic [12:57] TR Bot Why it matters who caused inflation - The Atlantic [12:58] TR News "The fallout from Bill C-11 has been the subject of several posts this week" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/06/the-bill-c-11-fallout-continues-disney-pauses-original-commissions-in-canada/ | Source: Michael Geist [12:58] TR Bot The Bill C-11 Fallout Continues: Disney+ Pauses Original Commissions in Canada - Michael Geist [12:59] TR News "Debian Day Volunteer Suicide" https://danielpocock.com/demoted-in-death-debian-cabal-final-insult-frans-pop/ | Source: Daniel Pocock [12:59] TR Bot Demoted in Death: Debian cabal's final insult to Frans Pop [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [13:01] TR News "the legislation did not pass unanimously, with the final vote at 499 in favor" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3699311/eu-parliament-approves-ai-act-moving-it-closer-to-becoming-law.html | Source: Computer World [13:01] TR Bot Parliament approves AI Act, moving it closer to becoming law | Computerworld [13:02] TR News "the company has been skipping various payments" https://qz.com/elon-musk-twitter-unpaid-bills-office-eviction-1850546732 | Source: Quartz [13:02] TR Bot Elon Musk starts to face consequences of Twitter's unpaid bills [13:02] TR News "Atlantic Council experts share their genuine intelligence by answering the pressing questions about whats in the legislation and whats next. [...]" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-worlds-regulatory-superpower-is-taking-on-a-regulatory-nightmare-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: Atlantic Council [13:02] TR Bot The worlds regulatory superpower is taking on a regulatory nightmare: artificial intelligence - Atlantic Council [13:04] TR News Disinformation and Gulag https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4050354-google-hosts-profits-from-fake-abortion-clinic-ads-report/ | Source: The Hill [13:04] TR Bot Google hosts, profits from fake abortion clinic ads: report | The Hill [13:04] TR News disinformation and FBI https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/16/john-durhams-disinformation-problem/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler [13:04] TR Bot John Durham's Disinformation Problem - emptywheel [13:04] TR News misinformation https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7zz9z/spotify-rogan-rfk-vaccine-misinformation-policy | Source: Vice Media Group [13:04] TR Bot Spotify Has Stopped Even Sort of Trying to Stem Joe Rogans Vaccine Misinformation [13:05] TR News "Scheduled to debut on June 22, just in time for the upcoming Eid al-Adha holiday," https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/heres-why-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-is-blocked-from-release-in-the-united-arab-emirates-101686919544630.html | Source: Hindustan Times [13:05] TR Bot Here's why 'Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse' is blocked from release in UAE | Hollywood - Hindustan Times [13:05] TR News "Nadims family believes he was targeted in retaliation for his May 2023 series of reports" https://cpj.org/2023/06/bangladeshi-journalist-golam-rabbani-nadim-beaten-to-death-after-reporting-on-local-politician/ | Source: CPJ [13:05] TR Bot Bangladeshi journalist Golam Rabbani Nadim beaten to death after reporting on local politician - Committee to Protect Journalists [13:08] TR News "social media posts" https://cpj.org/2023/06/pakistani-journalists-abroad-face-terrorism-investigations-at-home/ | Source: CPJ [13:08] TR Bot Pakistani journalists abroad face terrorism investigations at home - Committee to Protect Journalists [13:14] TR News "Hong Kong authorities have targeted the pro-democracy advocate and China critic since 2020" https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-urges-release-of-jailed-hong-kong-newspaper-founder-lai/7139335.html | Source: VOA News [13:14] TR Bot EU Urges Release of Jailed Hong Kong Newspaper Founder Lai [13:14] TR News "An Iranian journalist who was jailed last year for conducting an interview with Mahsa Amini's father said Thursday that she has been "terminated" from her position at the newspaper where she had just started working." https://www.voanews.com/a/iranian-journalist-terminated-after-alleging-special-forces-officer-misconduct/7138885.html | Source: VOA News [13:14] TR Bot Iranian Journalist Says Newspaper Fired Her After She Alleged Special Forces Officer Misconduct [13:14] TR News "Assanges Most Critical Moment" https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/16/joe-lauria-assanges-most-critical-moment/ | Source: Scheerpost [13:14] TR Bot Lauria: Assange's Most Critical Moment - scheerpost.com [13:15] TR News "But from the first day on the job, Gwin began to realize that he had made a mistake." https://jacobin.com/2023/06/google-subcontractor-hcl-pittsburgh-unionizing-memoir/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine [13:15] TR Bot One Tech Subcontractors Road to Unionization [13:16] TR News activision saved? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3699310/us-judge-temporarily-blocks-microsofts-activision-deal-at-request-of-ftc.html | Source: Computer World [13:16] TR Bot judge temporarily blocks Microsoft's Activision deal at request of FTC | Computerworld [13:17] TR News "Against that background" https://walledculture.org/digital-business-models-are-changing-what-are-artists-thoughts-hopes-and-fears-in-this-new-world/ | Source: Walled Culture [13:17] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/digital-business-models-are-changing-what-are-artists-thoughts-hopes-and-fears-in-this-new-world/ ) [13:18] TR News "Music creators must now contribute to at least 20% of an album to earn a nomination." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/grammys-bans-ai-only-music-allows-only-human-creators/articleshow/101053255.cms | Source: India Times [13:18] TR Bot Grammys bans AI-only music, allows 'only human creators' - The Economic Times [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:20] TR News Microsoft GitHub = CENSORSHIP of code https://torrentfreak.com/github-takes-down-cloudstream-apk-code-repo-following-mpa-complaint-230616/ | Source: Torrent Freak [13:20] TR Bot Takes Down Cloudstream APK Code Repo Following MPA Complaint * TorrentFreak [13:20] TR News "jadoo" https://torrentfreak.com/ibcap-dish-prevail-in-jadoo-tv-piracy-lawsuit-ceo-held-personally-liable-230615/ | Source: Torrent Freak [13:20] TR Bot Prevail in Jadoo TV Piracy Lawsuit, CEO Held Personally Liable * TorrentFreak [13:39] TR News [Meme] Their Power is Your Wasted Time | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/go-self-host/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/go-self-host/ [13:39] TR Bot [Meme] Their Power is Your Wasted Time | Techrights [13:42] TR News (NEW): This week in KDE: nicer digital signing in Okular http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/This_week_in_KDE_nicer_digital_signing_in_Okular.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/This_week_in_KDE_nicer_digital_signing_in_Okular.gmi [13:42] TR Bot Tux Machines This week in KDE: nicer digital signing in Okular [13:49] TR News Social control media in action https://gizmodo.com/minecraft-dream-youtube-face-mask-online-hate-1850528540 [13:49] TR Bot Minecraft YouTuber Dream Puts Mask Back On Over Online Hate [13:50] TR News (NEW): New YouTube Videos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_YouTube_Videos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_YouTube_Videos.gmi [13:50] TR Bot Tux Machines New YouTube Videos ● Jun 17 [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/matthew-garrett-says-san-francisco-people-get-it-with-the-city-in-court-attacking-homeless-americans-also-blasts-us-constitution/ [16:16] TR Bot Matthew Garrett Says San Francisco People Get it. With the City in Court Attacking Homeless Americans. Also Blasts US Constitution. | BaronHK's Rants [16:17] *mib_px58vt (~d99270dc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:19] *mib_px58vt has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:30] immibis reddit admins force reopen /r/piracy [17:30] immibis probably giving up their s230 or dmca or whatever protections because they are now taking an active role to promote piracy on their platform [17:31] XRevan86 The safe harbour law? [17:31] TR News TikTok is a Chinese Weapon Controlled by a Dangerous Company (ByteDance) and We Must Treat It Like a Chinese Weapon for Our Own Sake | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/tiktok-dangerous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/tiktok-dangerous/ [17:31] TR Bot TikTok is a Chinese Weapon Controlled by a Dangerous Company (ByteDance) and We Must Treat It Like a Chinese Weapon for Our Own Sake | Techrights [17:32] immibis XRevan86: yeah whichever one applies, they probably just lost it [17:34] XRevan86 immibis: Uff, hopefully the Elusive Joe clause will save them. ● Jun 17 [18:04] TR News When We Dont Have Independent Media COVID-19, Nord Stream Etc. Become the Next JFK (a Mishmash of Theories, No Definitive Answers) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/covid-19-blackout/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/covid-19-blackout/ [18:04] TR Bot When We Dont Have Independent Media COVID-19, Nord Stream Etc. Become the Next JFK (a Mishmash of Theories, No Definitive Answers) | Techrights [18:06] TR News Sam Thursfield: Status update, 16/06/2023 https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2023/06/16/status-update-15-06-2023/ [18:06] TR Bot Status update, 16/06/2023 Sam Thursfield [18:11] XRevan86 https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-16/eric-schmidt-buys-ditched-alfa-nero-superyacht-for-67-6-million "Eric Schmidt Buys Abandoned Alfa Nero Superyacht for $67.6 Million" [18:11] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:22] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [18:30] TR News Many Fake Patents Are Still Being Squashed and Patent-Centric Media in Europe is Mostly Sockpuppets of the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/many-fake-patents-and-the-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/many-fake-patents-and-the-epo/ [18:30] TR Bot Many Fake Patents Are Still Being Squashed and Patent-Centric Media in Europe is Mostly Sockpuppets of the EPO | Techrights [18:39] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] AdmFubar https://slashdot.org/story/23/06/17/0018224/gpt-4-generated-pitches-are-3x-more-likely-to-secure-funding-than-human-ones [18:41] TR Bot GPT-4-Generated Pitches Are 3x More Likely To Secure Funding Than Human Ones - Slashdot [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 17 [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:27] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19040465 [19:27] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [19:28] TR News Judges of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Are Resigning Before It Even Starts and Team UPC Sprinkles Candy on This Illegal and Unconstitutional Court (Rigged Kangaroo Court Designed to Authorise the EPOs Abuses Against the EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/upc-crisis/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/upc-crisis/ [19:28] TR Bot Judges of the Unified Patent Court (UPC) Are Resigning Before It Even Starts and Team UPC Sprinkles Candy on This Illegal and Unconstitutional Court (Rigged Kangaroo Court Designed to Authorise the EPOs Abuses Against the EPC) | Techrights [19:39] TR News Links 17/06/2023: Daniel Ellsberg Dies, SparkyLinux 7.0 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/17/sparkylinux-7-0-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/17/sparkylinux-7-0-is-out/ [19:39] TR Bot Links 17/06/2023: Daniel Ellsberg Dies, SparkyLinux 7.0 is Out | Techrights [19:55] TR News (NEW): Windows TCO or Microsoft-Connected Security Breaches http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Windows_TCO_or_Microsoft_Connected_Security_Breaches.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Windows_TCO_or_Microsoft_Connected_Security_Breaches.gmi [19:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Windows TCO or Microsoft-Connected Security Breaches [19:55] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [19:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [19:55] TR News (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi [19:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers [19:55] TR News (NEW): Devices: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_More.gmi [19:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Devices: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and More [19:55] TR News (NEW): Debian: Posthumous Insult, Sparky 7.0, and FAI.me http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Debian_Posthumous_Insult_Sparky_7_0_and_FAI_me.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Debian_Posthumous_Insult_Sparky_7_0_and_FAI_me.gmi [19:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian: Posthumous Insult, Sparky 7.0, and FAI.me [19:56] TR News (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Factorio, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Factorio_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Factorio_and_More.gmi [19:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Factorio, and More [19:56] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [19:56] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [19:56] TR News (NEW): New Application Lists From LinuxLinks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_Application_Lists_From_LinuxLinks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/New_Application_Lists_From_LinuxLinks.gmi [19:56] TR Bot Tux Machines New Application Lists From LinuxLinks [19:58] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi [19:58] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers ● Jun 17 [20:00] TR News REMAINDER IS NOT MODULO gemini://siiky.srht.site/algebra/mod_not_rem.gmi [20:00] TR News world-building in C++ gemini://laniakea.rodoste.de/journal/2023-06-16-c++.gmi [20:01] TR News Communicative Culture gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/06/17/communicative-culture.gmi [20:02] TR News "For me the issue is path of least resistance. Gemini AND http are both quite good TCP based protocols for serving miscellaneous media. While they both have their bundled media type they're really really good at just serving any content while having a fairly robust protocol." gemini://senders.io/gemlog/degrowth-and-bespoke-protocols.gmi [20:02] TR News The Cost of Change gemini://johan.egneblad.se/change.gmi [20:03] schestowitz[TR] "For the sake of keeping this text somewhat short and making a point that is applicable to the real world, I will narrow down the type of software development to the kind I have been doing the most. The kind that is never finished, be it a product that is sold externally or an internal system that is only used by coworkers." [20:03] TR News "I've released a significant update to the GmCapsule server. This version includes a couple of improvements I've been planning to implement for a while." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2023-06_gmcapsule-0.5.gmi [20:04] AdmFubar what will they do if he lives forever? https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/windscribe-changes-its-mind-about-the-lifetime-plans.451755/ [20:04] TR Bot Windscribe changes its mind about the Lifetime plans. | Wilders Security Forums [20:04] TR News Baseball Game - Goldpanners vs. Kingsmen gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230617-0.gmi [20:05] TR News Setting up OpenCL on RK3588 using libmali gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2023/06-17-setting-up-opencl-on-rk3588-using-libmali.gmi [20:05] TR News Really brown your meat gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/recipes/reallyBrownYourMeat.gmi [20:11] *techuser has quit (connection closed) [20:12] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/14011221 [20:12] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [20:16] *techuser (~techuser@hitnw9kfqmb5q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] AdmFubar https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Cb458PRJ43s [23:20] TR Bot Reddit CEO learns going to war with the internet is a LOSING battle - Invidious [23:22] techuser It is no "war with the internet", it is a violation of the boiling frog principle. [23:22] techuser Rapid worsening instead of slow one. [23:23] techuser But who knows, maybe the people then adapt. Or mass-migrate to another platform, making it big and significant risk of repeating the same issues. [23:40] bagira honestly you should let the protester types protest until all of that shit crumbles and they wear out their credibility [23:40] immibis You might have heard that the company that owns Instant Pot has filed for bankruptcy. The makers of Instant Pot did something horribly wrong: they made a really good product that works very well and does not need to be replaced frequently. This means that owners of Instant Pots might only need to buy one and rarely replace it, if at all. [23:40] immibis This is a great success from the perspective of *industry,* in Veblens sense, but terrible for *business.* The makers of Instant Pot failed to sufficiently sabotage their product by, say, building in intentional obsolescence. Maybe they should have used cheaper parts that wear out faster, or installed software that requires regular updates, or deliberately inserted components designed to make it fail. [23:40] immibis But they didnt, and so sales were stagnant. The firm that owns Instant Pot borrowed lots of money in an attempt to make a new version of Instant Pot they somehow hoped to sell to consumers of Instant Pot. It was too much; the firm did not earn enough differential profitsprofits at a faster rate than its competitorsand so the firm is failing, despite the success of the product. [23:41] immibis https://kolektiva.social/@HeavenlyPossum/110559922189025128 [23:41] TR Bot "You might have heard that the company that owns I" - kolektiva.social [23:41] bagira for some reason in this era we think a publicly available service should appear to a fringe audience instead of the general audience actually using it and funding them and that idea needs to air out a little [23:41] immibis Huffman did not create the largest data set of human beings talking about interesting things. Reddits users did. What Huffman owns is a *fence* around those conversations, and he only earns a profit if he can *sabotage* access. [23:42] bagira s/appear/appeal/ [23:55] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)