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DaemonFC[m]Mandy's getting tired of me making recipes that lean heavily on beans, rice, various mixed vegetables, and chicken and turkey.Aug 17 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Oh lots of spaghetti and mac and cheese with kale.Aug 17 00:00
DaemonFC[m]I have so many spaghetti recipes there's probably few ways I haven't done it lately because I'm getting buried alive with it.Aug 17 00:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The government is quietly dumping lots more money into the food industry lately so that people don't notice what's going on.Aug 17 00:04
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: my normal problem is me getting to heavy with the combination of sammon, rice and canned vegetables. Aug 17 00:04
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oiaohmYes me lazy single bowl clean up microwave recipe.Aug 17 00:05
DaemonFC[m]My mom was telling me about when I was about 6 years old and my dad wanted ham and beans one night, but her slow cooker was broken.Aug 17 00:06
DaemonFC[m]So she told him how to cook them in a stockpot and she said "Turn it to high and wait for it to boil then turn it on low to simmer it for a few hours.".Aug 17 00:07
DaemonFC[m]She said he turned it on high and walked away from it and she came back home and there was smoke all over the house. She had to throw the entire pot away because the beans had turned into cement at the bottom of the pan after the water all boiled away.Aug 17 00:08
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DaemonFC[m]I guess I could relate to Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf where he said he got the wrong parents. Lister asks him whose he got, and he says "The wrong parents. My parents.".Aug 17 00:11
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: My dad is affiliated with the Church of Scientology.Aug 17 00:12
DaemonFC[m]He's a total skinflint but he's written them some eye watering checks for "auditing".Aug 17 00:12
DaemonFC[m]Between him and those people that are half a notch up from snake handlers that all got the Coronavirus at mom's church, again......Wonder I survived at all.Aug 17 00:13
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: Like, he'll be sitting there carving a new hole in his belt with his pocket knife while he's handing Scientology another $1,000.Aug 17 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Great. I think my MDR-7506s have a kink in the wires.Aug 17 00:16
DaemonFC[m]I will not get Bluetooth headphones. NEVER!Aug 17 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Total mess. I can't imagine Apple managed to get it right if nobody else has.Aug 17 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Walmart has some headphones with Active ****** Canceling technology.Aug 17 00:19
DaemonFC[m]Maybe I can finally get some sleep.Aug 17 00:19
DaemonFC[m] 17 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-15-Year-Old Girl Was Sex Trafficked, Exposed in Videos on Pornhub, Then Forced to Have Abortion | LifeNews.comAug 17 00:41
DaemonFC[m]"He said Pornhub is the thirty-fourth most popular website visited in United States, and there likely are many more abuses going on there."Aug 17 00:41
DaemonFC[m]34th most popular website in the United States......means someone is using a Christian nation.Aug 17 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Could it be.....EVERYONE?Aug 17 00:41
DaemonFC[m]TRIGGEREDAug 17 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Bing is the second most popular search engine and probably doesn't get as many unique visitors.Aug 17 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Also, curiously, only a few news articles spoke of how easy it was to run into CP on Bing up to just a couple of years ago.Aug 17 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Even though Microsoft has PhotoDNA, and almost none of this stuff was less than 10-20-30 years old.Aug 17 00:43
DaemonFC[m]So it was certainly hashed and they could have filtered it if they wanted to.Aug 17 00:43
schestowitzAriadne: 17 00:43
schestowitzdoneAug 17 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Free Software Movement is Falling for Too Many Old Tricks | TechrightsAug 17 00:43
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DaemonFC[m]I suspect the only reason they kept it up was so that they could report anyone who clicked on it.Aug 17 00:45
DaemonFC[m]The cops were probably making too many arrests to ever really want it to end.Aug 17 00:45
DaemonFC[m]The theory isn't that far out there. The government of Australia kept a Tor hidden service up for a year, improved capacity, and added more abuse images and videos, and then baited people to install Adobe Flash so it would report their IP to the police.Aug 17 00:46
DaemonFC[m]IIRC, the FBI arrested over 130 people in the US based on tips from the Australian government.Aug 17 00:46
DaemonFC[m]So the state itself is facilitating the abuse of minors and the distribution of abuse materials in order to justify massive new police power over the internet.Aug 17 00:47
DaemonFC[m]It's a cynical ploy.Aug 17 00:47
kingoffranceDaemonFC[m], just google "elastic belt" if you are feeling cheap, e.g. woven/stretch/braided   Aug 17 00:47
kingoffrancei guess thats what they are calledAug 17 00:48
kingoffrance*google imagesAug 17 00:48
DaemonFC[m]My dad just wears suspenders. He always looks pretty dumpy. Aug 17 00:48
schestowitzI thin this one is related to Jim 17 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Oral history interview with Richard A. ZemlinAug 17 00:49
DaemonFC[m]Someone called him a white Steve Urkel for how he dressed. Aug 17 00:49
schestowitz 17 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Latest on IBM Z, Power Systems & More | IBM Systems Media | IBM Systems MediaAug 17 00:51
schestowitz"Zemlin says this project is near and dear to his heart because his family has a ... a mainframe engineer and his grandfather was a founder of Cray Research."Aug 17 00:51
schestowitz"My grandfather was one of the founders of Cray Research." Jim ZemlinAug 17 00:52
schestowitz headquartered in Seattle, Washington.Aug 17 00:52
schestowitzFounded: 1972, Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, United StatesAug 17 00:53
schestowitz"Seymour Cray began working in the computing field in 1950 when he joined Engineering Research Associates (ERA) in Saint Paul, Minnesota. There, he helped to create the ERA 1103. ERA eventually became part of UNIVAC, and began to be phased out. He left the company in 1960, a few years after former ERA employees set up Control Data Corporation (CDC). He initially worked out of the CDC headquarters in Minneapolis, but grew upset by Aug 17 00:53
schestowitzconstant interruptions by managers. He eventually set up a lab at his home town in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, about 85 miles to the east. Cray had a string of successes at CDC, including the CDC 6600 and CDC 7600. "Aug 17 00:53
schestowitzWikipediaAug 17 00:53
schestowitz 17 00:54
schestowitz"Zemlin worked for several computer firms before joining Control Data (CDC) to develop software for the CDC 1604. He discusses the establishment of a software group and the simultaneous development of a service bureau in the San Francisco Bay area. He mentions the software group under Seymour Cray that developed the FORTRAN compiler for the 1604 and the group built up by Richard Gunderson. Software development at CDC was originally Aug 17 00:54
schestowitzunder the direction of George Hanson. Later Frank Mullaney oversaw software development before Clair Miller was hired to head software development specifically. Zemlin points out that early software was conceived of as applications. Zemlin considers CDC's attempts to limit their support to system software and compares the policies of CDC with those of International Business Machines. He discusses training a force of outside analysts Aug 17 00:54
schestowitzthat was developed to provide support for specific customers and subsequently became part of the marketing organization. Zemlin discusses a number of specific projects, including the development of the ALGOL compiler at Oak Ridge. He also discusses the development of two forms of documentation for CDC software: external specifications, and internal maintenance specifications."\Aug 17 00:54
schestowitzMaybe this is the son?Aug 17 00:54
schestowitzWife died months agoAug 17 00:55
schestowitz 17 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Virgina Zemlin 1932 - 2020 - ObituaryAug 17 00:55
schestowitz"Virginia "Ginny" Zemlin died at age 88 on April 16, 2020 in Portola Valley, CA . Ginny was born Jan 27, 1932 in Fort Wayne, Indiana to Harry and Hilda Miller. Harry Miller was a family physician, and Hilda an RN. They moved to McComb, Ohio, where they built the family home and a town hospital on the same lot. As the oldest of four children, Ginny enjoyed doing house calls with her dad, and even helped him deliver a baby. An Aug 17 00:55
schestowitzaccomplished flutist, she graduated with a degree in music from the Ohio State University. While there, she met her future husband Richard A. Zemlin, a mathematics PhD student. "Aug 17 00:56
schestowitzBased on the age, that's Jim's grandma, quite likelyAug 17 00:56
schestowitz"Due to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic, there will be no services at this time."Aug 17 00:56
schestowitz"Due to the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic, there will be no services at this time." I think this is Jim's grandmother, based on what he said about his grandfather role in Cray Research. Aug 17 00:57
schestowitz"Ginny is predeceased by her parents, husband Richard and brother James Miller, and survived by her two children Paul Zemlin and Lynn Trimble-Zemlin, son-in-law Lee Trimble, honorary daughter Beth Weil, two grandsons, Ryan Zemlin and Greg and his wife Crystal Zemlin, sisters Lynn Miller and Harriet Fire and many loving nieces, nephews and friends. "Aug 17 00:58
schestowitzdoes not mention a JamesAug 17 00:58
schestowitz"honorary daughter"?Aug 17 00:58
schestowitzWhat is that?Aug 17 00:58
DaemonFC[m]No clue.Aug 17 00:59
DaemonFC[m]"The Court sentences the Defendant to: three years of probation consisting of three yearsAug 17 00:59
DaemonFC[m]on both counts one and two, to run concurrently under the usual terms and conditions and theAug 17 00:59
DaemonFC[m]special conditions; no fine; no restitution; and $200.00 special assessment. "Aug 17 00:59
schestowitz1998 interviewAug 17 00:59
schestowitzthey're connected to IBM maybeAug 17 00:59
schestowitz 17 00:59
schestowitzMaybe IBM influence put Jim in charge of LFAug 17 01:00
DaemonFC[m]LOL Wow. That's the sentence for filming about 300 porn videos under duress of the victim, rape, and sex trafficking?Aug 17 01:00
schestowitz 17 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Cray, Seymour [WorldCat Identities]Aug 17 01:01
schestowitz'"Oral history interview with Richard A. Zemlin by Richard A Zemlin( ) ... As an extra bonus, he told the history of his company, Cray Research, Inc."Aug 17 01:01
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: which case?Aug 17 01:01
DaemonFC[m]USA v. Garcia as it pertains to GirlsDoPorn.Aug 17 01:02
DaemonFC[m]He took a plea bargain.Aug 17 01:02
schestowitzCray Research was founded by Seymour Cray, Aug 17 01:02
schestowitzis Jimmy fool of BS?Aug 17 01:02
DaemonFC[m]He was the male porn actor in all of the videos.Aug 17 01:02
schestowitzMaybe his grandfather was not really, as he put it "one of the founders of Cray Research."Aug 17 01:02
DaemonFC[m]They have a felony arrest warrant out for the owner, Michael Pratt.Aug 17 01:03
schestowitzSource: Linux MagazineAug 17 01:03
DaemonFC[m]He skipped bail and fled the country.Aug 17 01:03
DaemonFC[m]They want him on sex trafficking and production of underage pornography.Aug 17 01:03
DaemonFC[m]He filmed a scene where he had sex with a woman who used a fake ID.Aug 17 01:03
DaemonFC[m]She turned out to be 16.Aug 17 01:03
DaemonFC[m]It's....happened before, in the industry.Aug 17 01:04
schestowitz 17 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Connections: Podcast: Open source past, present, and future with the Linux Foundation's Jim ZemlinAug 17 01:04
schestowitz"Jim:  I grew up in the computing industry, to some degree. My father was a computer programmer growing up. My grandfather was a programmer, oddly. He was also one of the founders of the company called Cray Research, and that's just been part of my blood."Aug 17 01:04
DaemonFC[m]I'm not aware of them pressing charges like this if they can document that they got duped by a fake ID.Aug 17 01:04
DaemonFC[m]A few of the videos are still circulating on various porn sites.Aug 17 01:05
DaemonFC[m]While they're illegal, every time they take them down, someone else uploads it with a different title.Aug 17 01:05
schestowitz"Gordon:  You started out in Linux. "Aug 17 01:05
schestowitzLOLAug 17 01:05
schestowitzhe does not even use it!Aug 17 01:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: One I'm aware of that does keep coming back is a Cobra video with Sean Paul Lockhart in it.Aug 17 01:06
DaemonFC[m]Of course, the owner of the company was brutally murdered and then had his house burned down with his dead body in it.Aug 17 01:06
DaemonFC[m]A lot of these porn studios have a dramatic ending, but that was bizarre even for them.Aug 17 01:06
DaemonFC[m]You know, you do 300 videos and all you want to do is pay a little bit more than gas money, eventually shit happens.Aug 17 01:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: From the civil litigation that GDP spawned, apparently women were tricked into flying to California to do a scene. They were typically not told what it would really be used for and were not allowed to have a copy of the contract.Aug 17 01:08
DaemonFC[m]They were told they'd get round trip airfare and like usually a few thousand dollars, and then it would be a 30 minute shoot.Aug 17 01:08
DaemonFC[m]But then what happened was more like, they were prevented from leaving the room, like the door would be barred from the other side.Aug 17 01:09
schestowitzsounds typicalAug 17 01:09
schestowitzeven when it is stagedAug 17 01:09
schestowitzchange subject anywayAug 17 01:09
schestowitzthis isn't techAug 17 01:09
DaemonFC[m]The shoot would go on for "hours" then they tossed a couple hundred bucks at em and told them to get lost.Aug 17 01:09
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, "OMG it's on the internet and someone who knows me saw it and told everyone and my life is ruined!".Aug 17 01:10
DaemonFC[m]Hey schestowitz Aug 17 01:13
schestowitzcan we talk about tech instead of porn?Aug 17 01:13
DaemonFC[m]Richard Allen Jones is in federal court records.Aug 17 01:13
schestowitzcan you fetch it?Aug 17 01:13
DaemonFC[m]Looks like he filed bankruptcy a year after if it's the same guy.Aug 17 01:14
schestowitzhis case is on recordsAug 17 01:14
schestowitzin kings countyAug 17 01:14
schestowitzwhat's the city/address?Aug 17 01:14
schestowitzmaybe legal bills finished himAug 17 01:14
schestowitzand being unable to find a job, with the name in the news and allAug 17 01:14
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Aug 17 01:14
schestowitzRichard Allen JonesAug 17 01:15
schestowitz17525 80th Ave NEAug 17 01:15
schestowitzApt 101Aug 17 01:15
schestowitzKenmore, WA 98028-6603Aug 17 01:15
schestowitzSSN / ITIN: xxx-xx-6029Aug 17 01:15
schestowitzcan you look up any correlated data?Aug 17 01:15
schestowitzor age?Aug 17 01:15
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Aug 17 01:16
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Aug 17 01:16
schestowitzKenmore is the UK:,+Aberfeldy/@56.5868881,-4.0048484,9z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4888bcb6c3ad4d4f:0xba19f00340f84e84!8m2!3d56.5871951!4d-3.994938Aug 17 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google MapsAug 17 01:17
schestowitznor far from kirkland, redmong and bellevueAug 17 01:18
schestowitza short drive awayAug 17 01:18
DaemonFC[m]Do you want me to get his filing and see where he lists his employer?Aug 17 01:18
schestowitzThis one seems differentAug 17 01:18
schestowitz15-11808-CMA Richard Allen JonesAug 17 01:18
schestowitzCase type: bk Chapter: 7 Asset: No Vol: v Judge: Christopher M AlstonAug 17 01:18
schestowitzDate filed: 03/25/2015 Date of last filing: 07/13/2015Aug 17 01:18
schestowitzDebtor discharged: 07/02/2015Aug 17 01:18
schestowitzDate terminated: 07/13/2015Aug 17 01:18
schestowitzsure, get any infoAug 17 01:18
schestowitzpeople wonder where he is nowAug 17 01:18
schestowitzbk Chapter = bankruptcy?Aug 17 01:19
schestowitzthe year after the trialAug 17 01:19
DaemonFC[m]He owned a 1995 Chevy Blazer.Aug 17 01:19
schestowitzat the time?Aug 17 01:20
schestowitzdoubt he'd move to an old car like thatAug 17 01:20
schestowitzwe have his car info in SPD FOIAAug 17 01:20
schestowitzcan we guess the age based on creditors?Aug 17 01:20
DaemonFC[m]He owed student loans and a lot of tax debtAug 17 01:21
DaemonFC[m]Listed employer: Hilton Garden Inn BothellAug 17 01:21
DaemonFC[m]Employed there for 8 months when he filed.Aug 17 01:21
schestowitzI read that as Brothel at firstAug 17 01:22
schestowitzwhy would an engineer with pedo trial months earlier and probation work for a hotal?Aug 17 01:22
schestowitzhotel?Aug 17 01:22
schestowitzor why would a 55 year old still pay student debt?Aug 17 01:22
schestowitzmaybe a poor person in his 30sAug 17 01:23
schestowitzin the hospitality sectorAug 17 01:23
schestowitzand an old carAug 17 01:23
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Aug 17 01:23
schestowitzmanufactured when he was 10Aug 17 01:23
DaemonFC[m]He had a criminal case in Seattle.Aug 17 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Docket Number 12-1-04294-9Aug 17 01:23
schestowitzSeattleAug 17 01:23
schestowitzKing County Aug 17 01:23
schestowitzsame person?Aug 17 01:24
schestowitzhow do we know it's the same person?Aug 17 01:24
DaemonFC[m]Put in that docket and it might pull him up in state court.Aug 17 01:24
schestowitzwe have him on docketAug 17 01:24
schestowitzI gave you the link before, let me bring that againAug 17 01:24
schestowitz 17 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part IX: Arrest for Pedophilia Made, Conviction (Guilty Plea) Affirmed, and Search Conducted While the Pedophile Was at the Home of Bill Gates | TechrightsAug 17 01:25
schestowitzyou want to link unique IDs, not only namesAug 17 01:25
schestowitzaddresses are uniqueAug 17 01:25
schestowitzThis is the trial history: 17 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part VII: Guilty Verdict in Case of Pedophilia (Staff at the Mansion of Bill Gates), But Where Was the Mainstream Media? | TechrightsAug 17 01:26
schestowitzJune 2015 it endedAug 17 01:26
schestowitzbankruptcy the month after?Aug 17 01:26
schestowitz[01:18] <schestowitz> Debtor discharged: 07/02/2015Aug 17 01:26
schestowitzCase setting Dec 2014Aug 17 01:26
schestowitzso legal bills for that longAug 17 01:27
schestowitzand prior one might imagine...Aug 17 01:27
DaemonFC[m]12-1-04294-9Aug 17 01:28
DaemonFC[m]Case Title:Aug 17 01:28
DaemonFC[m]07/19/2012Order for Warrant - ORDER FOR WARRANT $40,000Aug 17 01:28
schestowitzHUB testing June 2015Aug 17 01:28
schestowitzHIVAug 17 01:28
DaemonFC[m]What am I looking at here?Aug 17 01:28
schestowitz2012?Aug 17 01:29
schestowitzthat can't be rightAug 17 01:29
schestowitzhe was only caught and put under warrant req in 2013Aug 17 01:29
schestowitzbut could be a repeat offender, stranger things have happenedAug 17 01:30
schestowitzhe also had unlicensed pistolAug 17 01:30
schestowitzor unregistered, whatever you call it over there...Aug 17 01:30
DaemonFC[m]He had a no contact order.Aug 17 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Felony case.Aug 17 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Order not to possess a firearm.Aug 17 01:30
DaemonFC[m]But the firearm order was dismissed in 2020 it says.Aug 17 01:31
schestowitzwhere?Aug 17 01:31
schestowitzlinks, screenshots?Aug 17 01:31
schestowitzalso, is it the same person?Aug 17 01:31
*DaemonFC[m] posted a file: 15-11808-CMA-1.pdf (687KiB) < >Aug 17 01:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: ^Aug 17 01:35
DaemonFC[m]It references another felony criminal case.Aug 17 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Also, he claims he had like $2700-ish seized for the first case and that he owed another government unit almost $8,000.Aug 17 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Appears to be primary sources of debt were government fines.Aug 17 01:36
DaemonFC[m]But he threw some minor student loan debt of like $4,000-ish in and a few other small things.Aug 17 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Student loans are from 2008-2009 it says.Aug 17 01:38
DaemonFC[m]Mostly to the University of Phoenix Online.Aug 17 01:38
schestowitzSigned "Ricj Jones"Aug 17 01:38
schestowitzNot "Dick"Aug 17 01:38
schestowitzHe called himself RickAug 17 01:38
schestowitzIt might be himAug 17 01:38
DaemonFC[m]Looks suspicious to me.Aug 17 01:38
DaemonFC[m]That's why I said something.Aug 17 01:38
schestowitzbut why would he study in age 40+?Aug 17 01:38
DaemonFC[m]Some people do.Aug 17 01:39
schestowitzsearch this area and universityAug 17 01:39
DaemonFC[m]Maybe after being sentenced by the court he was in terrible debt from two felony cases inside of a couple years and having to take a job that was beneath him.Aug 17 01:39
schestowitzsee if there's another person you can see with same name..Aug 17 01:39
DaemonFC[m]So he went ahead and filed bankruptcy.Aug 17 01:39
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The first felony case went on well past the CP arrest.Aug 17 01:40
DaemonFC[m]In fact, it says his lawyer bailed on him in the first case.Aug 17 01:40
schestowitz"Minor Appliances20."Aug 17 01:40
schestowitzLOLAug 17 01:40
kingoffrancethats surely the univ of phoenix that most ppl considered as worthless right?    not judging here, i went to c.c.  "like high school but with cigarettes" -- jimmy kimmel IIRC   --     just in case schestowitz might not know these minutia of americaAug 17 01:40
schestowitzYou know what joke we could makeAug 17 01:40
DaemonFC[m]<kingoffrance "thats surely the univ of phoenix"> University of Phoenix is basically an expensive diploma mill.Aug 17 01:40
kingoffranceyeahAug 17 01:40
kingoffrancethats the one ive heard ofAug 17 01:41
DaemonFC[m]Only a stupid asshole would sign up for classes there.Aug 17 01:41
schestowitzmy aunt told me 20 years agoAug 17 01:41
kingoffrancewell ppl who dont know better but strange someone eyond a certain ageAug 17 01:41
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: questionAug 17 01:42
DaemonFC[m]YeahAug 17 01:42
schestowitzall the above info you gave is from this pdf?Aug 17 01:42
schestowitzor is there more?Aug 17 01:42
DaemonFC[m]There's more if I want to pay for it.Aug 17 01:42
schestowitz"Hospitality, Hotel Management"Aug 17 01:43
schestowitzWhy would a pedo (convicted) engineer work such a job?Aug 17 01:43
schestowitzthrows me off the scent tbhAug 17 01:43
schestowitz"iled 03/25/15 "Aug 17 01:44
*DaemonFC[m] posted a file: 15-11808-CMA-2.pdf (55KiB) < >Aug 17 01:44
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: His income for the last 6 months at time of filing was $0.00Aug 17 01:45
DaemonFC[m]He had no reported income.Aug 17 01:45
schestowitz"ing County Case No 63-33435King CountyUnknown500 4th Ave Rm 311Seattle, WA  98104-2337Case Number: 12-1-04294-9 SEA"Aug 17 01:45
schestowitzCan you link the cases from their IDs?Aug 17 01:45
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: are those the two docs we have so far?Aug 17 01:46
schestowitzor are there more?Aug 17 01:46
schestowitzwe must be 101% sure it is himAug 17 01:46
DaemonFC[m]I can access anything he filed at the bankruptcy court.Aug 17 01:46
schestowitzanything we publish that turns out to be untrue would damage/discredit anything previously publishedAug 17 01:46
schestowitzlet's pick more clues, like date of cases, bail etc.Aug 17 01:47
schestowitzit would be VERY exclusive if we report on what happened "after"Aug 17 01:47
schestowitzit would also confirm Gates sacked himAug 17 01:47
schestowitzFrom Seattle PDAug 17 01:48
schestowitzThe form, we haveAug 17 01:48
schestowitz"Jones, Rick"Aug 17 01:49
schestowitzNever RichardAug 17 01:49
schestowitzDate of offense: jan 2014Aug 17 01:49
*DaemonFC[m] posted a file: 15-11808-CMA-6.pdf (34KiB) < >Aug 17 01:49
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schestowitzKenmore "richard allen jones"Aug 17 01:51
schestowitzleads to 17 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ )Aug 17 01:51
schestowitzone aged 70Aug 17 01:51
schestowitzit gives full addresses tooAug 17 01:52
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:52
schestowitz Richard Jones  |  Kenmore, WashingtonAug 17 01:52
schestowitzAge: 45Aug 17 01:52
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:52
schestowitzI think this is the one you look atAug 17 01:52
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:53
schestowitzAddresses:Aug 17 01:53
schestowitz    17525 80th Ave NE Apt 101, Kenmore, WA ; 12418 110th Ln NE Apt G102, Kirkland, WA ; 13221 97th Ave NE Apt F106, Kirkland, WA Aug 17 01:53
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:53
schestowitz"Richard Allen Jones17525 80th Ave NEApt 101Kenmore, WA 98028−6603"Aug 17 01:53
schestowitzso the ages are like 10 years apartAug 17 01:53
schestowitzso it's likely another person altogetherAug 17 01:54
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, different sack of shit.Aug 17 01:54
DaemonFC[m]Same name, same area.Aug 17 01:54
schestowitz 17 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEAug 17 01:54
schestowitzThis one lists some of the same peopleAug 17 01:54
schestowitzbut it's good to know it's just a "near hit"/"close miss"Aug 17 01:54
DaemonFC[m]So, wrong guy?Aug 17 01:54
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:55
schestowitzRelatives:Aug 17 01:55
schestowitz    David Jones, Larry C Jones, Rex Dale JonesAug 17 01:55
schestowitz"Aug 17 01:55
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: probablyAug 17 01:55
schestowitzthe addresses matchAug 17 01:55
schestowitzbut the ages do notAug 17 01:55
schestowitzand Kerri/Kerrie is not mentionedAug 17 01:55
schestowitzor the mother, maybe Pamela JonesAug 17 01:56
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Aug 17 01:56
schestowitznot Groklaw'sAug 17 01:56
DaemonFC[m]Well, I thought I was onto something, but I wasted some PACER credits.Aug 17 01:56
DaemonFC[m]I was mostly on there to see if anyone had objected to my bankruptcy and to see what the outcome of the trial for GDP people were.Aug 17 01:56
DaemonFC[m]That was an incredibly light sentence.Aug 17 01:56
schestowitzor maybe he flew a plane with Jeff, came back 10 years youngerAug 17 01:56
schestowitzall those "transhumanism" freaks...Aug 17 01:56
DaemonFC[m]The more I look into GDP, the more bizarre it gets. Garcia was also straight up accused of locking the back door to his SUV and raping one of them and begging her to be his girlfriend before dropping her off where he was supposed to go.Aug 17 01:57
DaemonFC[m]Buy you can only charge what there's evidence for.Aug 17 01:57
schestowitzI saved the PDFs regardlessAug 17 01:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Oh, you can only imagine what kind of shit Rick Jones has done that nobody will ever know about.Aug 17 01:58
schestowitzmaybe it'll come out one dayAug 17 01:59
schestowitzjust like Rich himselfAug 17 01:59
schestowitzsome people we exposed before reached out to us directly by emailAug 17 01:59
schestowitzfor "their side of the story" or similarAug 17 01:59
DaemonFC[m]In my experience thoughts lead to actions. Aug 17 01:59
DaemonFC[m]There was a pedophile trying to bait me on AIM in 1998.Aug 17 01:59
schestowitzI posted an index in the morningAug 17 01:59
schestowitzGates has many questions to answer, which he refuses to answerAug 17 02:00
DaemonFC[m]I think I mentioned that. His name was Joe Schaffer or something. Might have the spelling wrong.Aug 17 02:00
schestowitzsee here 17 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | What is Known for a Fact (Not Speculation) About Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Rick Allen Jones | TechrightsAug 17 02:00
schestowitzin case you did not see it alreadyAug 17 02:00
schestowitzI will keep an eyeAug 17 02:00
schestowitzsome other people keep an eye with us... and we collaborate on that Aug 17 02:00
DaemonFC[m]There's a Ricky Allen Jones in Washington Bankruptcy Court.Aug 17 02:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Bankruptcy court seems to lose stigma during recessions and then when things are "well" again the stigma comes back.Aug 17 02:04
schestowitzsounds unrelatedAug 17 02:04
schestowitzhe never goes by ricjyAug 17 02:04
schestowitzrickyAug 17 02:04
schestowitznot even in his filesystemAug 17 02:04
DaemonFC[m]How many people can really be "shamed" if everyone has to do it at once?Aug 17 02:04
schestowitzsame with unemployment nowAug 17 02:04
schestowitzsympathy rather than presumption of laziness or "crim"Aug 17 02:04
DaemonFC[m]18 bankruptcy filings in IL-ND on a Sunday, Roy.Aug 17 02:05
DaemonFC[m]Bad week ahead maybe. There's usually like 2.Aug 17 02:05
DaemonFC[m]Most lawyers are off on Sunday and are not filing them.Aug 17 02:05
DaemonFC[m]So 2-3 because most people file with a lawyer.Aug 17 02:05
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schestowitzI am going to post some Linux news nowAug 17 02:07
schestowitzthanks anyway, for looking into potential lead in the Jones enigmaAug 17 02:07
schestowitzsome people I speak to think it's highly relevant to whether or not to dig deeper into the Epstein issueAug 17 02:07
schestowitzwe don't even know how long for Rich worked for BillAug 17 02:07
schestowitzit says nowhere in the SPD papersAug 17 02:07
DaemonFC[m]He might have been a "contractor"Aug 17 02:08
DaemonFC[m]You know, the 1099 thing.Aug 17 02:08
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm kind of amused that the Richard that filed bankruptcy did it without serious credit card debt.Aug 17 02:09
DaemonFC[m]If you put taxes on the bankruptcy, they're not usually wiped out, or mostly survive. Same with student loans.Aug 17 02:09
DaemonFC[m]If I was him I would have cash advanced the credit cards.Aug 17 02:09
DaemonFC[m]They can't prove what you did with the cash.Aug 17 02:09
DaemonFC[m]Pay off the taxes or the student loans that aren't going away, wait 180 days, and then file bankruptcy on the credit cards.Aug 17 02:10
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DaemonFC[m]Trustees can suspect you cash advanced the cards to pay priority debt, but they can't prove it because there's no direct link.Aug 17 02:11
DaemonFC[m]You might have gone out and bought groceries. Who knows?Aug 17 02:11
DaemonFC[m]They're not going to waste their time.Aug 17 02:11
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Ariadnewelp schestowitz is telling people what they think hahahahaAug 17 02:23
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schestowitzAriadne: context?Aug 17 02:35
schestowitzThis?  >>[02:07] <schestowitz> some people I speak to think it's highly relevant to whether or not to dig deeper into the Epstein issueAug 17 02:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Reddit warned me.Aug 17 02:44
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DaemonFC[m]For telling the /r/linux moderators to go fuck themselves in a private message as a "question about my ban".Aug 17 02:44
schestowitz 17 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: Thanks for the repost @schestowitz! ...never know when Medium will get tired of my shit 🤣Aug 17 02:47
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schestowitz"Aug 17 02:47
DaemonFC[m]So I replied to my ban message again to add "As many times as you like, with a rusty fork.".Aug 17 02:47
schestowitz ...never know when Medium will get tired of my shit Aug 17 02:47
schestowitz🤣Aug 17 02:47
schestowitz"Aug 17 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Former Microsoft Employee Explains the Deception, Lies, and ‘Philanthropy’ of Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein | TechrightsAug 17 02:47
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DaemonFC[m]They don't even list the moderators, schestowitz Aug 17 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux, GNU/Linux, free software...Aug 17 02:47
schestowitz 17 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@stautistic: Yo @ABC / @HalleyFreger when are you going to publish the findings of your FOIA request to the FAA for #BillGates j… 17 02:48
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schestowitz""Aug 17 02:48
schestowitzYo @ABCAug 17 02:48
schestowitz / @HalleyFregerAug 17 02:48
schestowitz when are you going to publish the findings of your FOIA request to the FAA for #BillGates jets? Or has the FAA not satisfied your request yet? I got questions Aug 17 02:48
schestowitz🤣Aug 17 02:48
schestowitz"Aug 17 02:48
schestowitzReddit is Conde NasttAug 17 02:48
schestowitzThey work a lot with Microsoft, DaemonFC[m]Aug 17 02:48
schestowitzit's a lost causeAug 17 02:48
schestowitzlet them rotAug 17 02:48
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 17 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Humour] Things You Can’t Say on Reddit | TechrightsAug 17 02:49
schestowitz 17 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Condé) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | TechrightsAug 17 02:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Detecting and Undoing/Reversing Censorship of Microsoft Critics at Reddit | TechrightsAug 17 02:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Don't break the site – Reddit HelpAug 17 02:50
DaemonFC[m]It's against their ToS to remove ads and fingerprinting attack scripts.Aug 17 02:50
schestowitztheir site is bloatedAug 17 02:51
schestowitzin my browser it won't even render properlyAug 17 02:51
schestowitzseveral of themAug 17 02:51
schestowitzso they can't even make a site that renders a BLOODY LINK+comments rightAug 17 02:51
schestowitzinfinitely scroll and other crapAug 17 02:52
schestowitzit's trying to be facebookAug 17 02:52
DaemonFC[m]I had free healthcare for a year there. Yup.Aug 17 03:01
DaemonFC[m]I sat on all my medical bills and tacked them onto the bankruptcy in the end.Aug 17 03:01
DaemonFC[m]My psychiatrist probably should have sent me my copay bills from 2016-present.Aug 17 03:02
DaemonFC[m]Maybe he will now.Aug 17 03:02
schestowitzwhat's "there"?Aug 17 03:02
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Ariadnethe 37kb wall of textAug 17 03:09
schestowitzAriadne: ah, that's figosdevAug 17 03:09
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The mods on /r/linux made it so I can't message them for 28 days.Aug 17 04:34
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schestowitzhi, jagadeesAug 17 07:29
schestowitzthanks, I'll add thisAug 17 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 'A national disgrace': Holes in DNA databases leave crimes unsolved for decadesAug 17 07:53
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DaemonFC[m]"The break finally came when Roelfs and his colleagues turned to genetic genealogy, a technique that allowed them to expand their search to direct-to-consumer DNA websites."Aug 17 08:09
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, don't. Don't do this. If they ever need to DNA match you for a crime, they'll just look at this.Aug 17 08:10
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DaemonFC[m]"Black people are far more likely than white people to have their DNA profiles collected and stored in government databases — a reflection of a justice system that disproportionately targets people of color, researchers say."Aug 17 08:11
DaemonFC[m]DNA isn't collected for misdemeanors, but if you beat a cop with a skateboard during a protest, they will get your DNA.Aug 17 08:12
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schestowitzblack people were also more likely to be slavesAug 17 08:12
schestowitzyou overlook the purpose of this whole systemAug 17 08:12
schestowitzand its biasesAug 17 08:12
DaemonFC[m]"In 2015, Henslick was caught during a traffic stop with pot and cocaine, according to court records."Aug 17 08:13
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that someone made him do that because he was black too.Aug 17 08:13
schestowitzThe police exists to "PROTECT PROPERTY OWNERS"Aug 17 08:13
DaemonFC[m]Why do people get caught with drugs during traffic stops? Because they're a stupid piece of shit.Aug 17 08:14
schestowitzBlack people were historically "PROPERTY" of colonists who views themselves as "PROPERTY OWNERS" of "negros"Aug 17 08:14
DaemonFC[m]It's called the plain sight rule!Aug 17 08:14
schestowitz*viewedAug 17 08:14
schestowitzor maybe officer's biasAug 17 08:14
DaemonFC[m]If the cop sees drugs because you left them on top of the passenger seat, guess what.Aug 17 08:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If you are driving around with drugs and an illegal handgun, there's a cloaking device.Aug 17 08:15
DaemonFC[m]Put it under the seat.Aug 17 08:15
DaemonFC[m]Using this SEAT, you can obstruct the cop's vision of the illegal shit. Aug 17 08:15
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Also, by following traffic laws and having a current vehicle registration and driver's license, you minimize chances of police interaction to begin with.Aug 17 08:16
DaemonFC[m]And if you do slip up, they'll probably just give you a warning or a small fine and leave.Aug 17 08:16
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: People who get stopped and the cop finds guns and drugs and stuff.....Aug 17 08:19
DaemonFC[m]No sympathy.Aug 17 08:19
DaemonFC[m]Also, there's always time for manners. Especially when you're breaking the law.Aug 17 08:20
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: you seem to suggest that non-dumb criminals deserve empathyAug 17 09:10
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They deserve more respect than the ones who get caught.Aug 17 09:10
DaemonFC[m]Mostly because a smart criminal avoids pissing people off and thereby drawing attention to themselves.Aug 17 09:11
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: mehAug 17 09:17
schestowitzyou got caught more times than I can rememberAug 17 09:17
schestowitzso based on that logic, no sympathy warrantedAug 17 09:18
schestowitzAnd of course not getting caught depends on not having leads and eagerness to prosecute/pursueAug 17 09:18
schestowitzusually wealthy while old men have more connectionsAug 17 09:18
schestowitzand are more alike police chiefsAug 17 09:18
schestowitzso they're less likely to get caught also for reasons of solidarity and whatnot..Aug 17 09:19
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz For felonies, no.Aug 17 18:03
DaemonFC[m]They only put your DNA in CODIS over felonies.Aug 17 18:03
DaemonFC[m]Even then, not all felonies in all states.Aug 17 18:03
DaemonFC[m]Some also require felony conviction, while some only require a felony arrest.Aug 17 18:03
DaemonFC[m]Also, this guy was black in Illinois so the judge kept ordering him to do it and he just ignores the judge and nothing happens.Aug 17 18:04
DaemonFC[m]In Indiana, they just strap your ass down and take it.Aug 17 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Really, it's a story about how Illinois fucked up because it's being ran by PC babies.Aug 17 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Arrest warrants are weird like that too. In theory, another state can refuse to hand you over due to a misdemeanor arrest warrant. What actually ends up happening is they'd call Illinois and say hey do you want this guy, and they go "Pass. We'll just wait and get him if he ever comes back to Illinois and gets pulled over.", usually. Aug 17 18:08
DaemonFC[m]With felonies, other states are obligated to turn you over. Also, if they don't, the federal government can go in there and arrest you and hand you to the state that accused you.Aug 17 18:09
DaemonFC[m]During Bush, the Social Security Administration tried a program where they would match the names and stuff of people with warrants and cut off their Social Security until the warrant was closed as a way to pressure them to surrender themselves.Aug 17 18:10
DaemonFC[m]They got sued and court order to stop doing that, because they mismatched hundreds of innocent people with a similar name and terminated their Social Security and told them to go clear a warrant that they didn't have.Aug 17 18:11
DaemonFC[m]So if you're on Social Security benefits and get a misdemeanor arrest warrant, theoretically, you're not under as much pressure to come back to that state and surrender yourself as someone who needs to find a job.Aug 17 18:12
DaemonFC[m]As long as you can find a slumlord who doesn't care (they're everywhere) you'll probably evade the warrant until you die.Aug 17 18:12
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If it seems that Lake County has an awful lot of really old warrants that are for people over 65, that's why. They'll never be able to serve those as long as they don't come back to Illinois.Aug 17 18:13
DaemonFC[m]It would be a pain in the ass because they could theoretically be detained for a few hours any time they get pulled over for a traffic violation in their home state.Aug 17 18:14
DaemonFC[m]If their home state participates in the compact to not renew your driver's license if you don't clear your out of state warrants, that might work. But both states would have to be in the compact, and they would have to still be driving a car. Aug 17 18:15
DaemonFC[m]How much they haunt you depends on what it's for. John paid his traffic fines recently. Who knows.Aug 17 18:16
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: DHS didn't get back to you. No, and they probably won't.Aug 17 18:16
DaemonFC[m]"That DNA matched a 1983 rape — and linked him to more than two dozen others attributed to the pillowcase rapist, authorities said."Aug 17 18:17
DaemonFC[m]Going back to your story.Aug 17 18:17
DaemonFC[m]He committed all his crimes in blue states where they just have a ton of crime.Aug 17 18:18
DaemonFC[m]Someone posted FBI stats on Zerohedge the other day.Aug 17 18:18
DaemonFC[m]If you excluded black people, the United States would be about as safe as New Zealand.Aug 17 18:18
DaemonFC[m]Even with our existing laws.Aug 17 18:18
DaemonFC[m]The thing driving the violent felony count up are a bunch of big cities, lots of black people, judges and cops that don't do shit.Aug 17 18:19
DaemonFC[m]Trump can play into that because for once he doesn't even have to lie about something.Aug 17 18:19
DaemonFC[m]They might charge it, and then Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx......She drops 30% of felonies before they even get to arraignment.Aug 17 18:20
DaemonFC[m]Her predecessor dropped 18%.Aug 17 18:20
DaemonFC[m]So Chicago changed. Kim Foxx and Lori Lightfoot got in and violent crime goes through the roof. They're going to have their worst year since 1992 for sure, maybe going back into the 1980s. But even before the Coronavirus, it was getting worse as soon as Fox and Lightfoot came in.Aug 17 18:21
DaemonFC[m]It's so bad that all of these liberal douche people are horrified at the thought of going outside in expensive neighborhoods and have self-imposed a de facto 6 PM curfew on themselves while they decide whether to flee the city or not.Aug 17 18:22
DaemonFC[m]The big cities's a repeat of the 1970s. Could get there. They'll have their city, finally, and they won't like what happens to it without people there who pay taxes which "get spread around".Aug 17 18:24
DaemonFC[m]“People would stare at us like, ‘What do you mean there are guys in prison who didn’t have their DNA taken?” Wade recalled.Aug 17 18:27
DaemonFC[m]"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help!"Aug 17 18:27
DaemonFC[m]Every Law and Order episode has that aha moment when CODIS comes to the rescue.Aug 17 18:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I guarantee you if they put these looters they're arresting in CODIS and run a cross check, they'll find that they raped and killed people on cases that went cold.Aug 17 18:30
DaemonFC[m]It's not like most of them just suddenly decided to turn to a life of crime because they didn't have a trunk full of Gucci.Aug 17 18:31
DaemonFC[m]That "take what I want and what are you gonna do about it" mentality.....yeah, some of them are obviously rapists if the state bothers to check. Probably won't.Aug 17 18:31
DaemonFC[m] "Hansford said the harsh charges for anti-racism protesters amounted to “suppression tactics”, and pointed to the mostly white, frequently rightwing, often armed groups who demonstrated outside statehouses in April to protest against lockdown orders."Aug 17 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Felony charges against BLM protesters are 'suppression tactic', experts sayAug 17 18:33
DaemonFC[m]Yes, I remember that time when gun rights activists went and started attacking the cops with bricks, skateboards, glass bottles...whatever they had. ;)Aug 17 18:33
DaemonFC[m]Oh wait. They go there and wave some signs around and leave.Aug 17 18:34
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DaemonFC[m]You throw a brick at the police and complain about the arrest? How?Aug 17 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Are these people fucking stupid?Aug 17 18:34
DaemonFC[m]"Amid civil unrest in Ferguson following the police killing of Michael Brown, Josh Williams, then 18, was arrested for stealing a bag of potato chips and setting fire to a trash can.Aug 17 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Williams was charged with offenses including first-degree arson and second-degree burglary, and prosecutors pushed for a 15-year sentence, despite Williams having no criminal record. In December 2015 he was sentenced to eight years in prison, where he remains today."Aug 17 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, "Don't call it a riot when it's black people!".Aug 17 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Also, being charged with arson and theft after you stole something and set something else on fire.Aug 17 18:36
DaemonFC[m]How racist.Aug 17 18:36
DaemonFC[m]The same exact laws apply to everyone.Aug 17 18:36
DaemonFC[m]If I stole something and set another thing on fire in front of a cop, during a riot.....Aug 17 18:37
DaemonFC[m]Probably the same thing would happen to me. MSDNC would be nowhere in sight.Aug 17 18:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Microsoft did use their partnership with NBC to promote this agenda. Aug 17 18:38
DaemonFC[m]You know what's fucking insulting to black people?Aug 17 18:38
DaemonFC[m]Claiming that they're so incompetent that they can't possibly be held to account for breaking the law.Aug 17 18:38
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DaemonFC[m]The police bring the prosecutor arrests. The prosecutor drops the charges. You don't think that makes white people pissed off? To see that people are being let off the hook after destroying a city because of the color of their skin?Aug 17 18:41
DaemonFC[m]So much for Martin Luther King Jr. saying let a man be judged for the content of his character. Aug 17 18:41
DaemonFC[m]People who rape and murder and steal and set fire to things should face exactly the same swift retribution as anyone else.Aug 17 18:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Ask yourself why Microsoft wanted to steer a major news outlet to throw gasoline on the fire of racial resentment.Aug 17 18:42
DaemonFC[m]If London was burning down due to violent agitators, I believe you might suddenly have bad feelings towards the group doing it.Aug 17 18:43
DaemonFC[m]If you were afraid to leave your home because pedophiles and heroin addicts were sleeping in the park next door. Aug 17 18:44
DaemonFC[m]San Francisco is finally emptying out.Aug 17 18:44
DaemonFC[m]They lost 5% of the city population since April....permanently. Aug 17 18:44
DaemonFC[m]5% in an entire decade is considered extreme population loss, probably caused by bad public policy.Aug 17 18:45
DaemonFC[m]5% in 5 months..... What is that?Aug 17 18:45
DaemonFC[m]ZeroHedge mocks the city, easy to do.Aug 17 18:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Zillow Exposes Dramatic Exodus Out Of San Francisco Real Estate | Zero HedgeAug 17 18:47
DaemonFC[m]"With more people telecommuting than ever due to the COVID-19 pandemic, it appears that the allure of cramped, expensive urban housing, poo-covered sidewalks and homeless people shooting up in Starbucks has worn off."Aug 17 18:47
DaemonFC[m]"Meanwhile, both urban and suburban markets nationally are seeing homes sell more quickly than they were in February, while "most areas have seen price cuts decelerate relative to February, and slightly more so in the suburbs," according to the report."Aug 17 18:48
DaemonFC[m]Probably the only thing holding up high rents is.....try to get a bank....any bank, to give you a mortgage right now.Aug 17 18:48
DaemonFC[m]So I just don't see a lot of these homes selling, because most people get 30 years of payments because they can't afford that amount all at once.Aug 17 18:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm old enough right now that even were it somehow possible to get started on home ownership, I'd be 66 if I ever paid the mortgage off.Aug 17 18:50
DaemonFC[m]I'll have no heir to will the house to when I die.Aug 17 18:50
DaemonFC[m]That's before we get to the asides of upkeep, utilities, interest, property taxes, and the uncertainty of being tied down to one place and hoping I can sell. Potentially at a loss. Then I'd have to file bankruptcy again maybe.Aug 17 18:51
DaemonFC[m]You might be in for the duration. Had my parents (or at least my dad) kept that house we moved into in 1993, they'd be paying mortgage payments today, and for another 3 years.Aug 17 18:52
DaemonFC[m]However, in 1993, the landscape was much different. Grant County, IN appeared to be a booming middle class area with 2-3% unemployment.Aug 17 18:52
DaemonFC[m]So decisions you make don't necessarily hold. Not for 10 years (dad got laid off from the engineering dept at Thomson in 2000), or 20 years (the housing crisis), or 30 years (COVID-19 collapse).Aug 17 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Signing finance paperwork in anything is a red flag that you're probably doing something that you ought not to.Aug 17 18:54
DaemonFC[m]10 years in and there wouldn't have been a job in the entire county that my dad wasn't overqualified for.Aug 17 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Even when we lived there in the 90s, things went wrong with the house that needed immediate repairs.Aug 17 18:57
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I can't believe that so many people are roped into the idea of owning a home.Aug 17 18:58
DaemonFC[m]If human lifespans doubled it would be justifiable. Aug 17 18:58
DaemonFC[m]If there was relative economic stability. When's the last time that happened?Aug 17 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump 'enthusiastic' over unproven coronavirus therapeutic, MyPillow creator says - CNNPoliticsAug 17 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Trump pushing unproven quack therapy pitched by the CEO of a company who makes pillows.Aug 17 19:01
DaemonFC[m]This happened in the movie "Contagion". The guy selling "forsythia extract". It's very disturbing that this is being pitched from infomercial-style pressers from Trump.Aug 17 19:06
DaemonFC[m]Even more disturbing is that any news outlet is interested in repeating it in anything but a scandalous tone. Aug 17 19:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: MSN News with AIAug 17 19:21
DaemonFC[m]Country gripped with crisis, wall to wall.Aug 17 19:21
DaemonFC[m]"Here's how to use a TikTok hack to order a Pokemon Go Frappucino at Starbucks!"Aug 17 19:21
DaemonFC[m]"Your favorite pizza topping may be experiencing a shortage."Aug 17 19:22
DaemonFC[m]"College kids start off the year with a huge party."Aug 17 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Yes, yes!!!Aug 17 19:25
DaemonFC[m]MSN has discovered our secret plan. Pokemon Go frappucinos and Pepperoni Pizza while throwing COVID-19 parties!Aug 17 19:25
DaemonFC[m]You know, it's mostly old people who aren't taking the mask law seriously in Illinois.Aug 17 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Nobody talks about that.Aug 17 19:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla cuts 250 jobs, says Firefox development will be affected | Ars TechnicaAug 17 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla severance package is full base pay through December 31st.Aug 17 19:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Nearly 4 months. IBM gives you a month and walks you to the door.Aug 17 19:34
DaemonFC[m]So even though they're broke, Mozilla gives 4 times as much to laid off employees.Aug 17 19:35
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DaemonFC[m]“Living within our means”Aug 17 19:37
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that's what politicians say to cushion the blow when they mean downward spiral.Aug 17 19:37
DaemonFC[m]"Those contracts don't provide guaranteed payouts. When contacted by Ars, a Mozilla spokesperson said that "Firefox's revenue is subject to the overall trend of the search market and our product performance, versus a guaranteed payment.""Aug 17 19:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, and Google just signed a new contract with Mozilla right as the layoffs were announced.Aug 17 19:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Facebook Messenger starts taking over Instagram Direct messages | Ars TechnicaAug 17 19:44
DaemonFC[m]Facebook finds another way to put Facebook Messenger on your phone if you didn't want it.Aug 17 19:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ISIS allegedly ran a COVID-19 PPE scam site | Ars TechnicaAug 17 19:47
DaemonFC[m]ISIS took advantage of Trump bringing the biggest Coronavirus disaster on the planet to the United States to scam Americans by selling face masks that never arrived in the mail.Aug 17 19:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NSA and FBI warn that new Linux malware threatens national security | Ars TechnicaAug 17 19:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Look at this shit. Then nowhere in the article does it mention that only Linux 3.7 and older are affected. Aug 17 19:53
DaemonFC[m]"Red Hat® is a registered trademark of Red Hat, Inc."Aug 17 19:56
DaemonFC[m]YeeeehehehehehehehehheheheeeeAug 17 19:56
DaemonFC[m]Yes, the US government had the OutlawCountry malware that targeted RHEL as part of Vault7.Aug 17 19:56
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kingoffranceim not sure i see how that malware is getting in. rootkit. > 3.7 has better digital signature-type things to ensure only valid kernel modules get loaded.   i dont see the exploit how this gets in a system in the first place.   at least not from that article.Aug 17 20:38
kingoffrancei mean, not downplaying it, not upplaying it, but makes me wonder if ppl are just installing crap from random sourcesAug 17 20:38
kingoffrancenot blaming the user either ...just that article i dont see how it gets in in the first placeAug 17 20:39
kingoffranceam i missing a local user -> root escalation in that article?Aug 17 20:40
kingoffrances/local/nonroot/Aug 17 20:41
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DaemonFC[m]You have to be a kernel module to do a lot of things that used to be achievable as the root user with Kernel Lockdown.Aug 17 20:49
DaemonFC[m]But the FBI report says the kernel module doesn't load with Secure Boot on.Aug 17 20:49
kingoffrancethat sounds like what i used to see "it doesnt work" "turn off selinux"  Aug 17 20:50
kingoffrance"should we set it up to work with this app?"  "yes, that would be best"     that last step is imaginaryAug 17 20:50
DaemonFC[m]The FBI report suggests that with Secure Boot on, the malware couldn't do much even if you have a vulnerable kernel.Aug 17 20:50
DaemonFC[m]Which is also unlikely.Aug 17 20:50
kingoffranceive never seen that hypothetical last step in practiceAug 17 20:51
DaemonFC[m]It can do whatever root isn't restricted from.Aug 17 20:51
DaemonFC[m]In the traditional UNIX model, root having direct access to manipulating parts of the kernel was just a byproduct of it being mostly unrestricted.Aug 17 20:52
DaemonFC[m]But it has always been a user.Aug 17 20:52
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