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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: your fan has a message to you: | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > I'd rather smack myself with a fish (don't worry about the fish, it's | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > not the sort of thing I'm likely to actually do) than pick on Ryan twice | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > in one season, but why is he riding rms while HE falls for the oldest | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > trick in the book? | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > Biden is a FASCIST. I'd sooner vote for Forrest Gump. IF Hawkins can | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > spell his name, he's overqualified. Biden takes credit for the PATRIOT | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > ACT-- realistically or otherwise. | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > I get that Ryan wants "Law and Order". That's obvious. | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > I almost don't blame him, though he's not going to get Law and Order, | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > he's going to get facism which is Lies and Disorder-- with promises that | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > the escalating violence won't affect HIM. | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > If rms doesn't want to vote for the lesser of two goddamned Hitlers, | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > that's nothing to pick on him for, for fuck's sake. I fucking hate | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > election season. Everybody (even people you really like) proves they're | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > an idiot just like everybody else, and then a year later we act like | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > nothing happened. That's probably the only reason we aren't at (civil) | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > war right now. RULE BRITANNIA! | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > But it's silly anyway, because the office of president is fake-- you | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > always get the government. Just like in Hitchhiker's, the job of the | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > President is to buzz around and pick up (shag) hitchhikers, while the | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > de/construction contractors go about the business of running the | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > country/foreign policy/war. It's a joke, but your funniest staff member | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > isn't in on it. So much for "use their own rules against them!" He may | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > run circles around the credit card companies, but he's still a sucker | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | > for the DNC. | Sep 17 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Re: Democracy | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > Imagine what democracy could have done for the Jonestown Massacre: | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "Alright folks, here are your choices! Red KOOL-Aid or Blue!" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "What's the difference?" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "The Blue KOOL-Aid has slightly less cyanide!" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "OH, BLUE PLEASE!" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "I'D LIKE BLUE!" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > "DON'T DRINK THE *RED* KOOL-AID! IT'S BAD!" | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Sep 17 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | > That's right, it is! | Sep 17 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't really like Biden. I just know where this is heading with Trump and I don't know what will happen with Biden exactly. | Sep 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In this case, I'd rather have uncertainty than know for sure what continues to happen to immigrants and stuff with 4 more years of Trump. | Sep 17 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A stupid wall that comes out of whatever funds Trump raids (what will it be next?). | Sep 17 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mass sterilizations in ICE detention centers. | Sep 17 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A rogue immigration agency that keeps coming up with more fees and nastier policies. | Sep 17 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We know this keeps getting worse under Trump. Some of it might get rolled back under Biden. | Sep 17 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As much as I despise the rioters and looting considering that I live in the middle of it, literally (Chicago and Kenosha), I'm more horrified by nameless police officers in military fatigues coming out under Trump's control. | Sep 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anything, I'd welcome the actual National Guard for a while if it was Governor Pritzker in control of it. | Sep 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The federal government should never be local law enforcement, ever. | Sep 17 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The low Fed rates are probably here to stay for a long time, but they have an idea that Trump's appointees will never approve. Anti-recession bonds that would kick in and pay Americans directly if a recession happens. | Sep 17 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Temporary UBI that Congress has no control over. It just happens. | Sep 17 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that's an idea that Biden might put people at the Fed who will implement. | Sep 17 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could probably vote for Howie Hawkins if I wanted to. I'm in Illinois, and Trump isn't going to win here, but the fact is I just don't like Howie Hawkins or Jill Stein. | Sep 17 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not only can they not win, they have ties to the Russians and the Republican Party. | Sep 17 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I vote for Libertarians and Greens downballot sometimes if there's no Republican running. | Sep 17 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Indiana one year, there was no Democrat challenging Richard Lugar for the US Senate seat. | Sep 17 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the Libertarian candidate got 18% of the vote. | Sep 17 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That shows you there's a lot of people out there who would vote for the Libertarian Party if it was a two way election and they were the other candidate. | Sep 17 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But when you throw in a Republican and a Democrat, then the Libertarian gets maybe 1% of the vote. | Sep 17 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most people aren't willing to throw the election to the side that will be furthest from what they want purely to "Make a statement." that literally nobody flipping cares about. | Sep 17 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anything, people like me are even more pissed off at the Green Party because Hillary Clinton wouldn't have been ripping women's ovaries out and trying to deport all the legal immigrants. | Sep 17 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So again, fuck the Green Party. | Sep 17 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So far, only one state has instant runoff voting in federal elections. | Sep 17 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: That's just how FPTP voting dooms people to vote "strategically". It's a rigged system that happily gives the wheel to the minority vote. | Sep 17 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's Maine and it only has 4 electoral votes. | Sep 17 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm madder than hell about Trump. Madder than I've ever been about any president doing anything, honestly. | Sep 17 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | And so the voters have to try to predict what candidate closer to their liking will be picked up by the others. | Sep 17 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 2004 when I voted for John Kerry and he didn't win, I at least accepted that that was the system. I didn't like the wars or anything, but Bush didn't make the domestic situation unlivable. | Sep 17 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's policies have made it extremely unpleasant to live in the US. I mean, understatement, right? | Sep 17 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 500,000 people risk eviction immediately. | Sep 17 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | I'm very annoyed by this basic thing, because, for some bloody reason, these kinds of "democratic elections" keep happening while obviously punishing democratic principles. | Sep 17 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | Another reason why I rant about this is to make peace with that picking the lesser evil is fundamentally flawed, unfair and undemocratic. The system is working exactly as intended, that is the choice every time, and there's nothing an individual voter can do about it except getting better at predicting the outcome. | Sep 17 01:01 |
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| XRevan86 | Electing a third candidate on a larger scale than a local community is such a hard task it requires something close to a national uprising. | Sep 17 01:04 |
| Chaekyung | https://youtu.be/b2mnbyRgXkY?t=18851 "IRC was too scary for me" | Sep 17 01:05 |
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| XRevan86 | That's not literally impossible but requires cooperation of the people on a massive scale, like when protests make regimes go away. | Sep 17 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | Because if there's a successful awareness campaign then everyone will know that everyone will try the third candidate, and it will become the second candidate just from that. | Sep 17 01:07 |
| Chaekyung | kind of hard to see your perspective at all XRevan86 | Sep 17 01:08 |
| Chaekyung | What if there were 5 or 10 equal candidates, not just one? | Sep 17 01:09 |
| Chaekyung | European countris do not have a to-faced one-party system like the US | Sep 17 01:09 |
| Chaekyung | governments are usually made up of coolitions of 3-4 parties because none of them get more than like 20-30% on their own | Sep 17 01:10 |
| Chaekyung | You can have elections with 20 parties no problem | Sep 17 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | Chaekyung: I mean elections when one person gets elected based on their percentages compared to the other candidates individually | Sep 17 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | Parliament elections have other tricks, but I only know of one that the Russian State Duma has. | Sep 17 01:12 |
| kingoffrance | for another possibilitily, theres a variant can be added to most types of things, where if "none of the above" wins you start over with new candidates | Sep 17 01:12 |
| kingoffrance | that has potential to drag out i guess... | Sep 17 01:12 |
| kingoffrance | i could also see that being used to keep someone past their term maybe... | Sep 17 01:13 |
| kingoffrance | so it does have other issues | Sep 17 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: That can also be FPTP, doesn't really matter. | Sep 17 01:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 01:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [01:10] <Chaekyung> governments are usually made up of coolitions of 3-4 parties because none of them get more than like 20-30% on their own | Sep 17 01:14 |
| schestowitz__ | US has no concept of coalitions | Sep 17 01:14 |
| schestowitz__ | we have that in the UK at least | Sep 17 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | 30% – psychopath, 29% – some dude, 19% – none of the above | Sep 17 01:14 |
| Chaekyung | schestowitz__: you in the UK? | Sep 17 01:15 |
| schestowitz__ | yes | Sep 17 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | In fact, it can worsen the effect by having more of an appeal. | Sep 17 01:15 |
| Chaekyung | Then you get why I see the US system as very strange | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it is | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | exceptionally so | Sep 17 01:16 |
| Chaekyung | two parties are, to me, just bizarre | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | people are told to measure success by number of billionaires | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | oligarchs | Sep 17 01:16 |
| Chaekyung | also having "debates" where they talk about zero real issues is odd | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | who loot their own country | Sep 17 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | Chaekyung: Doesn't the UK also has the same problem? | Sep 17 01:16 |
| schestowitz__ | and their two-party system has Ryan voting for "lesser evils" | Sep 17 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | * schestowitz__, Chaekyung: | Sep 17 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | XRevan86: there are two dominant parties | Sep 17 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | but they tend to get around 80% of the vote | Sep 17 01:17 |
| schestowitz__ | in the US it's like 98% | Sep 17 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz__: I mean, the problem that a minority vote can still give a victory. | Sep 17 01:17 |
| MinceR | https://6dollarshirts.com/image/cache//data/designs/cthulhu2020/cthulhu2020-t-shirt-navy-truenavy-swatch-400x400.jpg | Sep 17 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | When electing a Prime Minister and such. | Sep 17 01:18 |
| Chaekyung | That's another difference between US and the US XRevan86. We don't have no Prime Ministers doing Executive Orders | Sep 17 01:18 |
| MinceR | https://i.etsystatic.com/13357682/r/il/f0d027/1129059181/il_570xN.1129059181_wk2w.jpg | Sep 17 01:19 |
| Chaekyung | The Prime Minister can talk, and that's about it. Want something actually put into law? Go through the very long process like anyone else | Sep 17 01:19 |
| XRevan86 | I guess that's something a monarch can do I suppose | Sep 17 01:19 |
| Chaekyung | The Prime Minister can't just declare that something is law willy nilly | Sep 17 01:19 |
| MinceR | https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.647748163.7210/flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.u2.jpg | Sep 17 01:20 |
| Chaekyung | monarch's haven't had any real power for centuries | Sep 17 01:20 |
| Chaekyung | they are merely symbols at this point | Sep 17 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | Chaekyung: I heard that this is self-constraining | Sep 17 01:20 |
| MinceR | https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.522778638.4669/fpp,small,lustre,wall_texture,product,750x1000.jpg | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | afaik the monarch of the UK does have real power, they just don't tend to use it | Sep 17 01:21 |
| MinceR | so people forget what the monarch can do | Sep 17 01:21 |
| XRevan86 | Queen: Execute order 66. | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 01:22 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4pbfT5pupc | Sep 17 01:24 |
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| kingoffrance | emperor > monarch i believe | Sep 17 01:29 |
| kingoffrance | king has kingdoms, emperor has empire(s) ? | Sep 17 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: I don't think there's a proper distinction. | Sep 17 01:30 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, i believe this has been disputed as well over the centuries | Sep 17 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | And an emperor is a monarch. I thought you wrote "king". | Sep 17 01:30 |
| kingoffrance | amongst kings and emperors i mean | Sep 17 01:30 |
| kingoffrance | "sure you run the empire, i run my little area" | Sep 17 01:31 |
| kingoffrance | local perogative as it were | Sep 17 01:31 |
| kingoffrance | they might claim allegiance while still having "veto" in a sense | Sep 17 01:31 |
| XRevan86 | local perogative – dukes and stuff | Sep 17 01:31 |
| kingoffrance | that too | Sep 17 01:32 |
| kingoffrance | layers of "localities" | Sep 17 01:32 |
| kingoffrance | or particular areas of law outside of physical locations | Sep 17 01:32 |
| kingoffrance | or across them | Sep 17 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | I guess there can be a monarch/king of a non-sovereign state under an emperor. | Sep 17 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Sep 17 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | "i am the state" | Sep 17 01:33 |
| XRevan86 | a vassal king, so to speak | Sep 17 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | yes | Sep 17 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | theoretically america said "we are the state" | Sep 17 01:33 |
| kingoffrance | so this did not end, was extended | Sep 17 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | or joint | Sep 17 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | which is why executive orders get interesting, supposedly they are not law but have "force of law" | Sep 17 01:34 |
| XRevan86 | But still even when the UK was a proper empire, it wasn't ruled by an emperor or empress. | Sep 17 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | but if them, or legislature, does something "unconstitutional" ...until it gets to a "supreme court" (state, maybe feds too) ...your only recourse is "act as though it did not exist" | Sep 17 01:34 |
| kingoffrance | so in a sense you get people doing their own "executive orders" based on "conscience" until a court decides what goes, and even then... | Sep 17 01:35 |
| XRevan86 | so there still isn't a proper distinction, except that a non-sovereign emperor is just nonsense. | Sep 17 01:35 |
| kingoffrance | i am speaking metaphorically of course, but effect-wise i dont think thats a stretch | Sep 17 01:35 |
| MinceR | "i am the senate!" | Sep 17 01:37 |
| kingoffrance | yep | Sep 17 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | When Peter I of Russia decided that he isn't just tsar but an emperor, it was literally just a semantic change. | Sep 17 01:38 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is an empire now. Why? I like the branding. | Sep 17 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, dict says caesar implies emperor, but i believe thers different kinds of caesars too, or multiple potential powers | Sep 17 01:39 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: Yet the perception is that tsar == king | Sep 17 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | you can always just king of kings [...] or emperor of emperors [...] and recurse | Sep 17 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | like an exponent perhaps | Sep 17 01:40 |
| kingoffrance | king^3 | Sep 17 01:40 |
| XRevan86 | An emperor of emperors is not a saying I'd take seriously. | Sep 17 01:41 |
| MinceR | a god-emperor of gods, then? | Sep 17 01:42 |
| kingoffrance | you arent wrong MinceR | Sep 17 01:43 |
| XRevan86 | The Great Duke, the first duke of equals. | Sep 17 01:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 01:44 |
| kingoffrance | i would say strictly speaking executive orders could never be law only equity (compelled performance) | Sep 17 01:48 |
| kingoffrance | it gets into positive law i guess and whether "the state" can be a victim, or "the community" etc. | Sep 17 01:48 |
| kingoffrance | but equity i guess you could say has "force of law" | Sep 17 01:49 |
| kingoffrance | if a court orders someone to do or refrain from doing something, i believe that is not law but "force of law" | Sep 17 01:49 |
| XRevan86 | > Both emperors and kings are monarchs, but emperor and empress are considered the higher monarchical titles. Inasmuch as there is a strict definition of emperor, it is that an emperor has no relations implying the superiority of any other ruler and typically rules over more than one nation. Therefore a king might be obliged to pay tribute to another ruler,[4] or be restrained in his actions in some u | Sep 17 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | nequal fashion, but an emperor should in theory be completely free of such restraints. However, monarchs heading empires have not always used the title in all contexts—the British sovereign did not assume the title Empress of the British Empire even during the incorporation of India, though she was declared Empress of India. | Sep 17 01:50 |
| kingoffrance | this of course would be applied to particular people, not broadly across a swarth | Sep 17 01:50 |
| kingoffrance | and for particular cases | Sep 17 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | From Wikipedia on "Emperor". | Sep 17 01:50 |
| kingoffrance | so my suspicion tells me they are right to call it "force of law" they just conveniently refrain from saying "its equity" | Sep 17 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | So that should explain why "emperor of emperors" is nonsensical. | Sep 17 01:51 |
| kingoffrance | makes sense, its supposed to be the top-most -- head -- capital -- supreme | Sep 17 01:51 |
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| XRevan86 | Now "gods" is a funny one, and sometimes the word is even used for what I'd normally call a mythical creature or spirit. | Sep 17 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | As "lesser gods" | Sep 17 01:52 |
| XRevan86 | So that word in no way implies supremacy, therefore a god of gods can be a thing. | Sep 17 01:53 |
| MinceR | yeah, i forgot "overgod" :> | Sep 17 01:53 |
| kingoffrance | in that sense, or equity, i would say executive orders are not taking over legislature per se (see following) -- but hijacking of judiciary. maybe a bit of both -- compelled performance. you could say judge-made law is "common law" too. except this case the "judge" + executor + legislature is the president. point being, i would say it is hijacking of judicial + possibly legislature too | Sep 17 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | or at least, is hijacking of judicial just as much as legislature | Sep 17 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | since equity normally is for particular cases, and done by a judge -- not legislature | Sep 17 01:56 |
| kingoffrance | the lines are blurry of course | Sep 17 01:56 |
| kingoffrance | its like broadly-applied equity IMO | Sep 17 01:56 |
| kingoffrance | a non-sequitor in a way | Sep 17 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder why executive orders are a thing, seem to be standard practice in republics. Can't really judge by Russia as it's a super-presidential republic (and anyway Putin doesn't need executive orders anyway, anymore at least). | Sep 17 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | s/swarth/swath/ | Sep 17 02:03 |
| kingoffrance | i am the state -> we are the state we are the revolution -> i am the revolution (one of the napoleons) we are the gods -> i am the god i feel there is a we are the daemons -> i am the system daemon joke in here | Sep 17 02:11 |
| kingoffrance | of course, the 4th is perhaps variant of the 3rd, "daemon" | Sep 17 02:12 |
| *kingoffrance ducks and covers | Sep 17 02:13 | |
| *XRevan86 failed to understand the point. | Sep 17 02:14 | |
| kingoffrance | arity seems to swing back and forth | Sep 17 02:14 |
| kingoffrance | people seem to get caught up in "novelty" but form this POV, its merely changing of who has particular powers, pre-existing | Sep 17 02:17 |
| kingoffrance | *from | Sep 17 02:17 |
| kingoffrance | thus, from this POV, there is nothing new -- just new arrangements | Sep 17 02:17 |
| kingoffrance | well IMO it is a blind spot of americans, they will say exec. orders are bad because they "didnt want a king" (ignoring the fact they wanted joint kinghood distributed, who then delegate outwards) | Sep 17 02:31 |
| kingoffrance | half-truth -- they wanted multiple kings (a non-sequitor to the prior system) | Sep 17 02:31 |
| kingoffrance | and now with the new arrangement, single king is a non-sequitor | Sep 17 02:32 |
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| kingoffrance | what i would say is theres no such thing as an emperor of emperors? well, there was no such thing as kings of the king. but they did it anyways -- that didnt stop them. | Sep 17 02:51 |
| kingoffrance | the power or right of "who is a non-sequitor" got shifted around :) | Sep 17 02:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "30% – psychopath, 29% – some dud"> United Russia and Guest Parties. | Sep 17 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know who else had "guest parties"? The Nazis. | Sep 17 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had "elections" where it was the Nazi and also a Nazi, but under some other "party". | Sep 17 05:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they still rigged it. | Sep 17 05:11 |
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| MinceR | the commies simply didn't let anyone other than their own candidates run at the "elections" | Sep 17 11:09 |
| MinceR | kingoffrance: systemd is the god daemon (see also: god class) | Sep 17 11:10 |
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| schestowitz | process 0 | Sep 17 11:24 |
| schestowitz | aka 1 | Sep 17 11:24 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-02-21 | Sep 17 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gut Feeling - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-02-21 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Sep 17 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/09/11/preparatory-committee-the-unitary-patent-system-can-be-functional-in-a-near-future/ | Sep 17 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Preparatory Committee: The Unitary Patent system can be functional in a near future - Kluwer Patent Blog | Sep 17 12:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | From the IPCopy article: | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | “The UPC Agreement does not have any withdrawal provisions but the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties does provide mechanisms for withdrawal from treaties with no withdrawal provisions. Whether the UK’s withdrawal is currently effective may be unclear however and may require amendment of the Protocol to the Agreement on the UPC on provisional application.” | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | Which article of the VCLT do they refer to? | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: is that you? | Sep 17 12:20 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: these kluwer comments read like you | Sep 17 12:21 |
| schestowitz | esp. this username/nym | Sep 17 12:21 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/KlJHbcS.mp4 | Sep 17 12:32 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: can I reproduce the press release? | Sep 17 12:41 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: some corrections to English | Sep 17 12:57 |
| schestowitz | para 1: "carries the risk of violating multiple international agreements" | Sep 17 12:57 |
| schestowitz | "We would like to see the UPCA being renegotiated" | Sep 17 12:58 |
| schestowitz | "Experts are also divided" | Sep 17 12:59 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: ^ | Sep 17 12:59 |
| schestowitz | "the question of whether the CJEU will" | Sep 17 13:00 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the rest reads fine | Sep 17 13:04 |
| schestowitz | well done, good statement | Sep 17 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I liked it | Sep 17 13:04 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: the final sentence is polite deterrence | Sep 17 13:04 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-02-23 | Sep 17 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hard Work Is The Key - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-02-23 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Sep 17 13:17 | |
| zoobab | https://ffii.org/open-letter-to-the-bundesrat-on-the-unitary-patent-tomorrow-germany-will-be-asked-to-violate-multiple-international-agreements/ | Sep 17 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffii.org | Germany will violate 3 international agreements with the Unitary Patent, says FFII | FFII | Sep 17 13:23 | |
| zoobab | what should I change? | Sep 17 13:24 |
| zoobab | divided | Sep 17 13:29 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: all the above | Sep 17 13:44 |
| schestowitz | you can find the corrected version reposted by us | Sep 17 13:44 |
| schestowitz | I made no edits other than the above | Sep 17 13:44 |
| schestowitz | "bare" is a word you used and may have meant to use another, I wasn't use | Sep 17 13:45 |
| schestowitz | *sure | Sep 17 13:45 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/688885.jpg | Sep 17 14:06 |
| smnthermes | Lol | Sep 17 14:09 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1306577214364962817 | Sep 17 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Germany Would Violate 3 International Agreements With the Unitary Patent, Says FFII #patents #Law #Europe #Germany… https://t.co/Ws2HsQ51tb | Sep 17 14:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: Germany Would Violate 3 International Agreements With the Unitary Patent, Says FFII #patents #Law #Europe #Germany… https://t.co/Ws2HsQ51tb | Sep 17 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | "Germany Would Violate 3 International Agreements With the Unitary Patent, Says FFII #patents #Law #Europe #Germany #Deutschland #Bundesrat #Petition #UnitaryPatent #Gesetz" | Sep 17 14:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1306570854877351936 | Sep 17 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: António Campinos Fools Nobody at the EPO Anymore #patents #Europe #Memes #mask https://t.co/UkR4elVmAi | Sep 17 14:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/09/17/the-mask-slipped-off/ ) | Sep 17 14:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1306570478673440776 | Sep 17 14:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: EPO Gradually Becomes a Set of Private Corporations (Some Aren’t Even European and Work Against Europeans) #patents… https://t.co/jZmHlYJWog | Sep 17 14:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: EPO Gradually Becomes a Set of Private Corporations (Some Aren’t Even European and Work Against Europeans) #patents… https://t.co/jZmHlYJWog | Sep 17 14:27 | |
| schestowitz | "EPO Gradually Becomes a Set of Private Corporations (Some Aren’t Even European and Work Against Europeans) #patents #Europe #EU" | Sep 17 14:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "Religion is fading more quickly in the United States than in any other nation, according to a forthcoming research book." https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/16/watching-religion-die/ " | Sep 17 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watching Religion Die - CounterPunch.org | Sep 17 14:33 | |
| MinceR | nice, but then why are the religious fundamentalists not losing support? | Sep 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Sep 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | need to see the book | Sep 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | and what facts it is based on | Sep 17 14:35 |
| schestowitz | I suppose polls/surveys | Sep 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | megachruches can be converted into firing ranges | Sep 17 14:36 |
| schestowitz | that's their thing, ain't it? | Sep 17 14:36 |
| MinceR | looks more like they're just saying it was even more benighted than it is now | Sep 17 14:36 |
| MinceR | also, maybe they're counting them wrong | Sep 17 14:36 |
| MinceR | perhaps it's like The Better Angels Of Our Nature: observing a temporary improvement and predicting it to keep going just on the cusp of it reversing hard | Sep 17 14:39 |
| kingoffrance | well the only choices officially allowed are: | Sep 17 14:52 |
| kingoffrance | 1) trump is god | Sep 17 14:52 |
| kingoffrance | 2) you are a commie atheist heretic | Sep 17 14:52 |
| kingoffrance | so its not surprising | Sep 17 14:53 |
| kingoffrance | state religion is on the rise | Sep 17 14:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 17 14:55 |
| kingoffrance | they really leave no choice except this is heaven on earth ("worldly kingdom") else you are on the "dark side" | Sep 17 15:07 |
| kingoffrance | they are proud of this inversion | Sep 17 15:07 |
| kingoffrance | dont smirk MinceR :) | Sep 17 15:07 |
| kingoffrance | im deadly serious :) | Sep 17 15:07 |
| kingoffrance | remember the wizard questing cartoon? | Sep 17 15:09 |
| kingoffrance | its kind of like that | Sep 17 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | [14:53] <kingoffrance> state religion is on the rise | Sep 17 15:24 |
| schestowitz | and cults like qanon | Sep 17 15:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/0Rightonq32/status/1306504046677614593 | Sep 17 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@0Rightonq32: @schestowitz Nothing can stop the Great Awakening. Not even Dr. Roy. #qanon | Sep 17 15:24 | |
| schestowitz | got this some hours ago | Sep 17 15:24 |
| schestowitz | I get loooons like these every day in Twitter | Sep 17 15:24 |
| schestowitz | swapping between superstitions | Sep 17 15:26 |
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| kingoffrance | well i saw a great thing recently | Sep 17 15:32 |
| kingoffrance | https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/09/citigroup-closely-tied-to-the-clintons-had-a-senior-v-p-outed-as-a-qanon-promoter-a-conspiracy-group-that-reviles-the-clintons/ https://wallstreetonparade.com/2020/09/citigroup-was-having-a-helluva-bad-year-now-a-citi-senior-vp-has-been-outed-as-the-man-behind-a-qanon-conspiracy-website/ | Sep 17 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wallstreetonparade.com | Citigroup, Closely Tied to the Clintons, Had a Senior V.P. Outed as a QAnon Promoter, a Conspiracy Group that Reviles the Clintons | Sep 17 15:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wallstreetonparade.com | Citigroup Was Having a Helluva Bad Year – Now a Citi Senior VP Has Been Outed as the Man Behind a QAnon Conspiracy Website | Sep 17 15:32 | |
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| MinceR | lol | Sep 17 15:33 |
| kingoffrance | makes you wonder if stormy daniels "trump is a clinton puppet" (paraphrase) was more than just mean-spirited | Sep 17 15:33 |
| kingoffrance | not to get too far off | Sep 17 15:33 |
| kingoffrance | just kind of destroys the "populism" angle | Sep 17 15:33 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/688922.jpg | Sep 17 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | I cast "doubt" | Sep 17 15:34 |
| XRevan86 | (way too many Czech zharts lately on the Internets lately, am I missing something?) | Sep 17 15:37 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Sep 17 15:37 |
| XRevan86 | s/lately // | Sep 17 15:38 |
| kingoffrance | whats a zhart? | Sep 17 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: schërz | Sep 17 15:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/żart | Sep 17 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | żart - Wiktionary | Sep 17 15:39 | |
| XRevan86 | * der Scherz | Sep 17 15:40 |
| kingoffrance | well american "awakenings" is kind of eternal september -- so that "shifting to lowbrow, emotional worship that is less admirable." is spot-on IMO -- and has a long history too | Sep 17 15:41 |
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| XRevan86 | "joke" in Polish/Ukrainian/Belarusian/Russian(dial.) and almost Czech | Sep 17 15:43 |
| zoobab | "Error establishing a database connection" | Sep 17 15:43 |
| zoobab | http://techrights.org/2020/09/17/unitary-patent-vs-international-agreements/ | Sep 17 15:43 |
| zoobab | use static website generators :-) | Sep 17 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | zoobab: and it's back | Sep 17 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Germany Would Violate 3 International Agreements With the Unitary Patent, Says FFII | Techrights | Sep 17 15:44 | |
| zoobab | not here | Sep 17 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | but pretty slow, I think it's exhausted MariaDB max connections | Sep 17 15:44 |
| zoobab | lol | Sep 17 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz, Ariadne: ^ | Sep 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: something is scraping the whole site | Sep 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz | I think it should work now | Sep 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz | I noticed that | Sep 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz | and it's not easy to block | Sep 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz | unless I block all past years temporarily | Sep 17 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/thread-pool-in-mariadb/ this is still an option | Sep 17 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thread Pool in MariaDB - MariaDB Knowledge Base | Sep 17 15:46 | |
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| XRevan86 | There's also ProxySQL, but that's overkill. | Sep 17 15:49 |
| XRevan86 | (can be used like pgbouncer for PostgreSQL) | Sep 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | varnish might do | Sep 17 15:49 |
| zoobab | used it | Sep 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | we used to use varnish as user-facing | Sep 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | not anymore | Sep 17 15:49 |
| zoobab | ah | Sep 17 15:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This is a lot like that, but for DBMS connections. | Sep 17 15:49 |
| schestowitz | tessier had a dedicated varnish machine | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | for multiple sites | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: when you could access the site it did about 600 simultaneous requests | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | it might be ok for tuxmachines | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | but wordpress is a lot more bloated in our case, unlike drupal | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | so it struggled north of 300 | Sep 17 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I saw no clear pattern like the DDOS of this morning | Sep 17 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | except the thread pool is not an external thing | Sep 17 15:51 |
| schestowitz | as this one did not attack the heavy pages, just lots and lots of different pages from more than 10 years aog | Sep 17 15:51 |
| schestowitz | *ago | Sep 17 15:51 |
| schestowitz | and I sit in the sun, so my monitoring fu is weak | Sep 17 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's just something that scales better when there are more and more connections. | Sep 17 15:52 |
| schestowitz | htop and nmon were all red | Sep 17 15:52 |
| zoobab | someone should get an answer from the UK side as well | Sep 17 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | like switching from mpm_worker to mpm_event, I suppose | Sep 17 15:52 |
| schestowitz | and I did not see it, the brightness is too high here right now | Sep 17 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: there's also mytop | Sep 17 15:52 |
| zoobab | regarding point 2 | Sep 17 15:52 |
| zoobab | 2. The UK is still listed as a “negotiating state” of the Agreement according to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) | Sep 17 15:52 |
| schestowitz | mytop? | Sep 17 15:52 |
| schestowitz | for mysql | Sep 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz | but I don't care about db level | Sep 17 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The DB level is what got clogged just now. | Sep 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz | it would likely add overhead if I strap monitoring to mariadb | Sep 17 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It works out of the box %). | Sep 17 15:53 |
| schestowitz | cpu bars with colours are enough | Sep 17 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | and it's bundled too, so you can even run it right now | Sep 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz | I use apachetop | Sep 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz | it tells me more | Sep 17 15:54 |
| schestowitz | and also static pages | Sep 17 15:55 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Do you still use mpm_prefork? | Sep 17 15:58 |
| XRevan86 | Because I can't see how that would be in any way helpful except for having traffic constraints in check | Sep 17 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | unless Apache httpd is bad at processing requests, which would be the case if you still used mpm_prefork… | Sep 17 16:00 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: viera has gone down | Sep 17 16:01 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: techrights.org just took about 20 seconds to load. | Sep 17 16:01 |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://files.catbox.moe/m5yc9i.mp4 | Sep 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz | it's slow now, XRevan86 | Sep 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz | partly because I linked to it twice | Sep 17 16:02 |
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| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Plasma 5.20 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142226 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.20 Beta | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Tumbleweed Snapshots bring updated Inkscape, Node.js, KDE Applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142225 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tumbleweed Snapshots bring updated Inkscape, Node.js, KDE Applications | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Qt Creator 4.13.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142224 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt Creator 4.13.1 released | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Geary Email Client Now Supports Plugins, Improves Server Compatibility http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142223 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geary Email Client Now Supports Plugins, Improves Server Compatibility | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Between Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and deepin 20 Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142222 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Between Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and deepin 20 Releases | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Slimbook Essential Linux laptops unveiled from â¬499 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142196#comment-26442 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Slimbook Essential is a Surprisingly Affordable Linux Laptop | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Games 3.38 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142184#comment-26440 | Sep 17 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.38 Desktop Environment Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines | Sep 17 16:36 | |
| schestowitz | ➬ | Sep 17 16:36 |
| schestowitz | (while viera down, ping Ariadne) | Sep 17 16:36 |
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| Ariadne | sorry I am at a trans clinic atm | Sep 17 16:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/north-carolina-is-already-rejecting-black-voters-mail-in-ballots-more-often-than-white-voters/ | Sep 17 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-North Carolina Is Already Rejecting Black Voters’ Mail-In Ballots More Often Than White Voters’ | FiveThirtyEight | Sep 17 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Too stupid to vote. | Sep 17 20:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "failed to fill out the witness information" | Sep 17 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it says "Witness has to sign here." you don't leave it blank. | Sep 17 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're acting like ability to follow simple instructions is a high bar to voting or something. | Sep 17 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The reason I tend not to make mistakes on official forms is because I make sure I understand the rules before I start filling it out. | Sep 17 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Illinois, it's not really that hard to fill out a mail in ballot. When it says pick one, you pick one (or leave the section blank if you don't want to vote for that office), if it says pick 2 or 3, you can vote for up to 2 or 3 or however many it says. You sign and date it, you put it in the inner envelope, sign the back of that envelope and seal it, and put it in the outer envelope to mail it. | Sep 17 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You have to wonder who can't understand this and how the hell they're even alive. | Sep 17 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard someone complain that Ohio is making people put a stamp on the return envelope. | Sep 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois does that too. | Sep 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said "People in their 20s might not understand that mail needs a stamp.". | Sep 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The outer envelope says "Place First Class Stamp here". | Sep 17 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Black people may not understand what sign here means. Young people may not know what a stamp is.". | Sep 17 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sounds condescending to me. | Sep 17 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Almost racist too. | Sep 17 20:43 |
| Ariadne | the democrats are racist in a different way | Sep 17 21:19 |
| Ariadne | they assume blacks are helpless and that the democratic party is there to save the day | Sep 17 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois is only putting first class postage on ballots this year because it was a way to spend federal election money from the CARES Act. | Sep 17 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pritzker is trying to pass a graduated income tax system and the rich are panicking because instead of the 4.95% flat rate, they may end up in brackets that go all the way up to 7.99%. | Sep 17 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not really going to affect them much, but they don't like paying taxes. Shoving the state's expenses on those who can least afford it is a game to them. | Sep 17 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically making poor people pay to fund the police who beat and kill them. | Sep 17 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the graduated tax rate is really an "Okay, you want it? You pay for it!" opportunity. The police really hate responding to calls from poor neighborhoods. Like, they don't even care when kids are being molested. It's just another day another dollar to them. schestowitz got FOIA stuff from the Rick Jones case and the wording of the detective proves that. | Sep 17 21:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ariadne: https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/elgin-courier-news/ct-ecn-carpentersville-man-charged-illegal-gun-st-0911-20200909-aidfccxv7nda7hq23pxg6w5m24-story.html | Sep 17 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Carpentersville man charged after illegal gun found in his possession in Elgin, officials say - Chicago Tribune | Sep 17 21:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | An Illinois "gun sanctuary county" (one where the prosecutor says the FOID law is illegal and they'll never charge it) charged a black man with every gun offense there is springing from having a gun without a FOID card. | Sep 17 21:36 |
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| Ariadne | lol | Sep 17 21:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | “If people have applied for their FOID card, even if it is expired, if they’ve applied for it, their FOID card, for all intensive purposes valid for the entirety of the disaster proclamation up to 18 months after the proclamation,” Sgt. Fraser said. | Sep 17 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "intensive purposes" | Sep 17 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Sep 17 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh the police are so SMART. | Sep 17 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The Illinois State Police agree FOID applications should be processed quickly and within the statutory guidelines. Financial instability brought on by the lack of a budget in the prior administration greatly impacted the processing of FOID applications by the Firearms Services Bureau. Gov. Pritzker's budget and the fiscal assurance it brings will allow the ISP to continue efforts to hire at least 32 additional | Sep 17 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | analysts and invest in technology upgrades. This year alone, FSB processed 65,969 new FOID applications....broader legislative remedies to streamline and modernize the FOID process will be necessary to meet statutory timelines. We look forward to working with all interested parties and members of the general assembly to reach those solutions," said ISP. | Sep 17 21:39 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Illinois State Police blamed the last governor and praised Governor Pritzker. The police as part of the Pritzker campaign. Nice. | Sep 17 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, at least it's not just Trump doing that. | Sep 17 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "At a minimum, a new FOID application must go through 42 steps before a determination is made." | Sep 17 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They issued mine while I was out on bail for a weapons offense. | Sep 17 21:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ariadne: I contacted that news site in Peoria asking if they wanted to interview me since the State Police issued me a FOID while I was on bail and then didn't revoke it until January even though I was disqualified by court order in August. | Sep 17 21:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd like to embarrass the state police. | Sep 17 21:47 |
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| schestowitz | "From $50 a month I can buy my long-suffering wife a nice dinner and afford an occasional trip to the shooting range." | Sep 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | how very ESR | Sep 17 22:09 |
| schestowitz | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8758 | Sep 17 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | My SubscribeStar account is live | Armed and Dangerous | Sep 17 22:09 | |
| schestowitz | do they have the dinner AT the shooting range? http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8758 | Sep 17 22:09 |
| Ariadne | haha ESR is broke | Sep 17 22:15 |
| Ariadne | I love it | Sep 17 22:16 |
| Ariadne | people should fund other work instead of his. | Sep 17 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | > Sex, software, politics, and firearms. Life's simple pleasures… | Sep 17 22:16 |
| psydroid | https://www.uniklinik-duesseldorf.de/ueber-uns/pressemitteilungen/detail/krankenhaus-derzeit-nur-sehr-eingeschraenkt-erreichbar-patientenversorgung-eingeschraenkt | Sep 17 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uniklinik-duesseldorf.de | Krankenhaus derzeit nur sehr eingeschränkt erreichbar – Patientenversorgung eingeschränkt ǀ UKD | Sep 17 22:17 | |
| psydroid | https://www.uniklinik-duesseldorf.de/ueber-uns/pressemitteilungen/detail/it-ausfall-an-der-uniklinik-duesseldorf | Sep 17 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uniklinik-duesseldorf.de | IT-Ausfall an der Uniklinik Düsseldorf ǀ UKD | Sep 17 22:17 | |
| Ariadne | sex and firearms can be pleasurable | Sep 17 22:18 |
| Ariadne | the problem isn't that ESR is a gun enthusiast | Sep 17 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why shouldn't you be? | Sep 17 22:18 |
| Ariadne | the problem is that ESR says shit like "kill protesters because they are 'lootijg'" | Sep 17 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats who voted to ruin Illinois and are now living in the riots are submitting 3 times as many FOID applications as normal. | Sep 17 22:19 |
| psydroid | a patient died due to IT systems being unavailable as a consequence of a ransomware attack, so the patient had to be moved to another hospital and it was already too late | Sep 17 22:19 |
| *XRevan86 is so used to a peaceful life that is intimidated by this much interest in projectile death. | Sep 17 22:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good. Maybe they'll bag some losers that the government will never deal with and they won't rob, rape, and commit arson anymore. | Sep 17 22:19 |
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| XRevan86 | but from what DaemonFC[m] tells, life in the US is a lot more interesting | Sep 17 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | more eventful on a daily basis | Sep 17 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | May you live in interesting times is supposed to be a Chinese curse. | Sep 17 22:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | State governments are forming panels with each other with health experts to provide guidance in place of the CDC. | Sep 17 22:28 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/688778.jpg | Sep 17 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | Wine is 99% water. We need to go deeper. | Sep 17 22:57 |
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| XRevan86 | (actually, probably less, because alcohol) | Sep 17 22:57 |
| XRevan86 | Apparently around 85% | Sep 17 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | This ability can be very valuable in an energy industry. | Sep 17 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | [22:18] <Ariadne> the problem is that ESR says shit like "kill protesters because they are 'lootijg'" | Sep 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | He did say that | Sep 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | ESR is mentally unsatable | Sep 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | though he was always rather unstable imho | Sep 17 23:14 |
| schestowitz | fits the stigma | Sep 17 23:14 |
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