●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 17, 2022 ●● ● Oct 17 [00:00] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I did 3 quick blog posts on vocid-19 i australia today [00:00] DaemonFC Walmart's policy on vaccine side effects being "at your own risk and you have to use PPTO hours" is stupid, even for the company. [00:00] schestowitz[TR] 17% rise in deaths this year [00:00] schestowitz[TR] in first 6 months [00:01] reptilian_thrills weve replaced the 17% rise in deaths with folgers crystals [00:01] reptilian_thrills lets see if anyone notices [00:01] DaemonFC If you get COVID, they have to put you on an excused leave of absence for 5 days through Sedgewick, and if it gets severe, they have to start paying out Short Term Disability, which could go on for up to six months. [00:01] DaemonFC It all depends on how your doctor feels about your ability to work. [00:01] DaemonFC So they play with fire. [00:01] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:02] reptilian_thrills but they wont notice, because folgers crystals are the same as placebo [00:02] DaemonFC They risk having to pay an employee who is sick with Long COVID for months or even a year (LTD) at 60% of their pay rate if it goes that way. [00:02] reptilian_thrills its placebo coffee [00:02] MinceR No its becky [00:02] DaemonFC When they could have just given them time off to account for a vaccine. [00:03] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:03] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@2qgtgt44enunu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:03] DaemonFC For every employee who skips the vaccine and gets Long COVID, they could have paid the entire store to take two days off for vaccine side effects. [00:03] MinceR s/N/n/ [00:03] DaemonFC So this makes no sense even for the company. [00:03] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:04] DaemonFC That's in addition to what it costs their group plan to treat the COVID. [00:04] DaemonFC And potential life insurance payouts to their surviving family if they die. [00:05] DaemonFC I mean this quickly adds up. There's no cost that is worth a single human life in dollars, if you ask most people, but economists have a funny way of being able to assign dollar value to the damndest things. [00:05] schestowitz libera: -Shelob/Wallops- We just released a blog post highlighting some new and upcoming features of the network. If you are a chanop, the new features may be of particular interest to you. [00:05] DaemonFC Not having the COVID vaccine days policy in place and discouraging boosters, Walmart will end up paying thousands of dollars out in benefits per dollar it saved by saying "Just skip the vaccine and go to work!" to everyone. [00:06] DaemonFC It's stupid. It shouldn't even be legal. [00:06] psydruid rust is cool because it uses llvm [00:06] DaemonFC So? You can use LLVM with C. [00:06] MinceR and with C++ [00:06] reptilian_thrills {ibm, llvm} :( [00:07] psydruid and llvm requires a lot of ram to build itself [00:07] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-4qorus.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [00:07] reptilian_thrills llvm requires a lot of ram to build itself <- its been a long road, gettin from there to here [00:07] psydruid it makes you want to have 16 GB in your system [00:07] DaemonFC Yeah, a compiler that builds itself followed by crashing while building the new compiler, followed by the debugger coming up and trying to make sense of it all, and then crashing, and being debugged by a debugger gets a little bit meta. [00:08] DaemonFC Thanks Apple! [00:08] reptilian_thrills wil wheaton: "i think i have that medal around somewhere for being the most hated person in star trek if the guy who wrote the enterprise theme song wants it" [00:08] psydruid and laugh at the poor people who are stuck with much less than that [00:08] reptilian_thrills SOARING SO HIGH, ABOVE THE WORLD! NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD FEEL SO FREE [00:08] reptilian_thrills IM ONE WITH THE BIRDS, AND MAGIC IS ALL I SEE! [00:08] psydruid that's modern computing for you, you poor sobs! [00:08] *Techrights-sec has quit (Connection closed) [00:08] DaemonFC Compilers are hell. [00:09] starstreak i liked enterprise [00:09] DaemonFC Many projects "handle" them simply by holding back on some ancient compiler that they know works. [00:09] reptilian_thrills me too [00:09] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-4qorus.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [00:09] reptilian_thrills i didnt call it enterprise though, i called it tpol [00:09] MinceR Yeah, never thought id be in the air / Im just a fluffy cute Teddy Bear / Lord Satan, look at me! Oh, Whoa! / Never thought id feel so well / It'd be funny if somebody fell / Hey, whats that burning smell? / Oh, its your mother playing card games in hell [00:09] starstreak lol [00:09] DaemonFC Every time you bump the compiler and rebuild the OS with it, you'll get more bugs that you can't anticipate. [00:10] reptilian_thrills tpol on a spaceship in spandex [00:10] reptilian_thrills that was rick bermans working title [00:10] *psydruid is going to start a compiler building enterprise [00:10] DaemonFC Compiling SeaMonkey with Clang 15..... [00:10] reptilian_thrills enterprise compilers are awesome [00:10] DaemonFC "I too like to live dangerously!" [00:10] reptilian_thrills helenah has a rig that can run one (maybe two of them) [00:10] *Techrights-sec has quit (Connection closed) [00:11] DaemonFC You couldn't have Austin Powers movies today. [00:11] reptilian_thrills that thing is amazing. a setup like that should have a spaceship built around it [00:11] reptilian_thrills and tpol. in spandex. at the helm [00:11] reptilian_thrills our helm [00:11] reptilian_thrills were going to need a bigger boat [00:11] DaemonFC I mean, could you imagine the jokes like Ivana Humpalot or Alotta Fagina or Robin Swallows. [00:11] reptilian_thrills i felt bad for chip until he basically scored with tpol though [00:12] reptilian_thrills because i always thought he looked like bush jr [00:12] TR News Microsoft AstroTurfing - first page update in SEVEN years http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=AstroTurfing&diff=16761&oldid=prev [00:12] TR Bot AstroTurfing - Techrights [00:12] reptilian_thrills and that made the show harder to watch [00:12] TR News Wikipedia is being manipulated and is becoming a Public Relations machine; today we take a closer look into the cover-up that comes after Nat Friedman, Miguel de Icaza, and their close friend Alex Graveley leaving Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/ [00:12] TR Bot Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHubs First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | Techrights [00:12] DaemonFC The whole list of character names was basically just one giant shitpost that was there to make you groan more than laugh. [00:12] reptilian_thrills i kept waiting for tony blair to show up [00:12] starstreak reptilian_thrills, i also love discovery [00:12] reptilian_thrills never watched it [00:12] starstreak its really good [00:12] reptilian_thrills i dont have a tv, and im not big on torrents [00:13] starstreak i noticed [00:13] starstreak i have a tv hooked up to my laptop, i watch shows and chat with people [00:13] reptilian_thrills i used to use a tv for reading books [00:13] reptilian_thrills i read several of cory doctorows books that way [00:13] starstreak i dont have the patience for books [00:13] reptilian_thrills it was a big tv, it was free, i literally picked it up off the sidewalk [00:13] starstreak i listen to audiobooks while i play diablo 3 [00:14] reptilian_thrills well id put the book as html from txt [00:14] reptilian_thrills then id load it in a browser at a font that was like an inch tall [00:14] schestowitz[TR] I do that with techrights [00:14] reptilian_thrills then id scroll through using the mouse, with the tv about 5 feet away [00:14] reptilian_thrills so i was watching the books on tv [00:14] schestowitz[TR] not TV [00:14] reptilian_thrills and its a very fast way to read-- much faster than paper [00:14] schestowitz[TR] audio is slow for reding [00:15] schestowitz[TR] and harder to absorb [00:15] DaemonFC Someone activated Garrett last night and he went on a really bad fit about someone "insulting" his "partner". [00:15] reptilian_thrills audio is slow for reding <- then id load it in a browser at a font that was like an inch tall [00:15] reptilian_thrills audio is fine if your audio FONT is an inch TALL roy [00:15] DaemonFC You know if I felt so strongly about someone that I was willing to go on and on for hours cursing at someone for insulting them, I'd be married to them. [00:15] schestowitz[TR] I mean 'readingg' [00:15] schestowitz[TR] text->audio-> listening [00:15] reptilian_thrills ... [00:16] reptilian_thrills /me reboots roy and sees if it fixes it [00:16] schestowitz[TR] I tried it almost 20 years agio [00:16] schestowitz[TR] with some journal papers [00:16] schestowitz[TR] it's hard to figure out the paper [00:16] schestowitz[TR] with a voice sythesiser [00:16] schestowitz[TR] reading a paper works a lot better [00:17] schestowitz[TR] that was 2003 [00:17] DaemonFC I grabbed a bunch of cheap carpet remnants and spent last night putting them together. [00:17] schestowitz[TR] I was a phd student who tried to 'read' the papers while doing chores [00:17] DaemonFC Now it looks like we have proper carpeting instead of something you'd throw over your back porch. [00:17] schestowitz[TR] but you can barely absorb the concepts in the paper [00:17] schestowitz[TR] with a voice [00:18] schestowitz[TR] things that are written for ... well, reading, are made for reading [00:18] schestowitz[TR] podcasts assume people see no text [00:18] schestowitz[TR] and so the pauses and all are different [00:18] schestowitz[TR] and you can say some words more slowly [00:18] reptilian_thrills things that are written for ... well, reading, are made for reading <- ill keep that in mind when SETTING the FONT on the BROWSER [00:18] reptilian_thrills /me thinks roy is proving that text doesnt work either [00:18] schestowitz[TR] those are two different things [00:19] reptilian_thrills it would be funny if explaining this in "audio" was more effective [00:19] starstreak hearing a book lets my imagination focus on the imagery [00:19] reptilian_thrills /me holds a sign outside roys place that says "YOURE NOT EVEN A TV" [00:19] schestowitz[TR] ok, your batner mood is on [00:19] TR News (NEW): Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 6.1 Release Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linus_Torvalds_Announces_First_Linux_Kernel_6_1_Release_Candida.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linus_Torvalds_Announces_First_Linux_Kernel_6_1_Release_Candida.gmi [00:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 6.1 Release Candidate [00:19] reptilian_thrills no, its just youre responding to thinks that werent said. [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] reptilian_thrills once again [00:20] reptilian_thrills it wasnt audio [00:20] *horseface (~horseface@wzvf36jz97vw2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:20] reptilian_thrills and you dont get it. [00:20] reptilian_thrills and text isnt working for you, despite what you just said [00:20] dope_dealer whos got the skrilla [00:20] reptilian_thrills i was just talking about tech, ironically [00:20] schestowitz[TR] reptilian_thrills: I was responding to starstreak [00:21] schestowitz[TR] you said how you read [00:21] reptilian_thrills well, thats fine [00:21] reptilian_thrills my bad then [00:21] *dope_dealer gives some dope to reptilian_thrills [00:21] reptilian_thrills maybe later dope_dealer [00:21] schestowitz[TR] and the convention of books from txt to html to high font browser rendering [00:21] schestowitz[TR] to which I responded, I do the same in TR [00:21] schestowitz[TR] I write the posts in kate [00:21] schestowitz[TR] pure text, with some basic masrkupo [00:21] reptilian_thrills well i obviously need to make the font on irc bigger [00:22] schestowitz[TR] then it goes into wordpress, then blow up the fonts and read while standing or whatnot [00:22] starstreak sometimes i like to lay down, close my eyes and listen to an audiobook and just let my imagination run wild [00:22] starstreak i also like to listen to books when i go for a walk [00:22] reptilian_thrills and just let my imagination run wild <- my imagination doesnt run, it walks carefully and probably just sits and reads a book [00:28] TR News IPFS in Techrights turns 2 shortly (later this month). The site turns 16 next month. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ipfs/ [00:29] TR News Get the weather in a Web browser? That's a 200MB program. Same can be done with Gemini at less than 1MB. gemini://caolan.uk/cgi-bin/weather.py/wxfcs/352509 gemini://auragem.space/weather/imperial/location?manchester [00:30] TR News Gemini may exceed 3000 capsules by year's end gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ [00:33] DaemonFC https://imgur.com/a/gjzWVLv [00:33] TR Bot The magic of the Internet [00:33] DaemonFC There's the COVID trend for the local sewage system over the past four months. [00:34] DaemonFC COVID is spiking again as of around the time I took us for the bivalent booster. [00:34] TR News 200k deaths later parts of the UK refuse to report any further deaths. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England [00:34] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England ) [00:35] reptilian_thrills ive been to the future and starstreak only uses cp/m [00:35] reptilian_thrills because she got tired of modern things [00:35] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: shut the toilet lid when flushing [00:35] reptilian_thrills she doesnt even use package managers anymore, she just pokes software directly into ram [00:35] schestowitz[TR] we still wash groceries and quarantine [00:35] schestowitz[TR] until there are more answers [00:36] schestowitz[TR] reptilian_thrills: colleagues like these break systems [00:36] schestowitz[TR] impulisvely adding "news" things [00:36] schestowitz[TR] and causing stable systems to become erratic [00:37] reptilian_thrills to be fair, she doesnt complain about instability much [00:37] reptilian_thrills granted its sheer luck, since shes using systemd [00:37] schestowitz[TR] "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/88032.html [00:37] TR Bot liam_on_linux | "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth [00:38] reptilian_thrills but for someone using a rofl release distro she seems to have it running ok [00:39] reptilian_thrills i think rolling release distro is a perfectly good option for people who want the latest software and i always have [00:39] reptilian_thrills the thing is, i dont personally have that much faith in development [00:39] reptilian_thrills so i prefer things that have been fucked with at a minimum [00:40] reptilian_thrills obviously having the latest versions should be an option-- i dont think its a virtue, but options are (sometimes) a virtue [00:40] TR News Eyesore: all the files here.. PROPRIETARY Microsoft formats. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2022 [00:40] TR Bot Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics [00:40] starstreak none of my stuff crashes [00:40] reptilian_thrills none of my stuff crashes <- yeah, credit where credit is due [00:41] reptilian_thrills personally i have seen (first hand) the kind of breakage that systemd causes [00:41] reptilian_thrills its ridiculous, thats why i call it out [00:42] reptilian_thrills but its also true that starstreak doesnt have these problems-- or at least, hasnt complained about them recently [00:42] reptilian_thrills and if you take systemd out of the equation, the point is that rolling release (in fairness) doesnt always mean instability [00:42] TR News Impressive 10% for GNU/Linux. Who needs a new PC when you can download Garuda? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202210 [00:42] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats [00:42] reptilian_thrills i dont trust it, i dont want it-- but if it works, it works [00:43] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], So COVID cases rose by 500% between 9/24 and 10/11 in Beach Park, which is next to Waukegan. [00:43] reptilian_thrills at least some of what people say about rolling release is prejudice [00:43] reptilian_thrills but before i was too sure id ask mincer, because hes good at examples of breakage [00:43] schestowitz[TR] it does not spike linearly [00:43] schestowitz[TR] but biden "pandemic is over" [00:43] reptilian_thrills i havent run an arch based distro in years [00:43] DaemonFC We got vaccinated with the bivalent booster on 10/6 (me) and 10/9 (Mandy). [00:43] schestowitz[TR] let me check death totals in USA [00:43] DaemonFC Mandy says "No wonder lots of people are calling in and coming in wanting tests all of a sudden.". [00:44] schestowitz[TR] who tracks it rthere? [00:44] schestowitz[TR] cdc? [00:44] schestowitz[TR] no [00:44] DaemonFC Because I showed him the sewage data. [00:44] reptilian_thrills usa sucks but its dying [00:44] DaemonFC They're hiding it, schestowitz[TR] [00:44] reptilian_thrills inb4 pseudoscience [00:44] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [00:44] DaemonFC They know nobody except a "crank" like me would look at the sewage data. [00:44] schestowitz[TR] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm [00:44] TR Bot State and National Provisional Counts [00:45] DaemonFC There's a surge going on in Beach Park right now, but things are only just starting to rise in Waukegan. [00:45] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@i88c3cyrsxag6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:45] DaemonFC Which means I timed the booster exactly right. [00:46] DaemonFC If we get "good" level of protective antibodies from it, it should be good enough to "avoid hospitalization or death" for like 8-10 months. [00:46] schestowitz[TR] only goes up to march 2022 [00:46] schestowitz[TR] 7 months ago [00:46] DaemonFC And the worst of the surge should be over by about March. [00:46] schestowitz[TR] and back to jan 2021 [00:46] DaemonFC Yeah, we're seeing this October to March thing with COVID, with the worst months being January and February. [00:47] DaemonFC It's moving along like flu and cold season does. [00:47] schestowitz[TR] I'm going to ODF it [00:47] DaemonFC Usually January and February are peak flu in Illinois. [00:47] DaemonFC The "experts" like to tell you to wait for the end of October for a flu shot, but this year it's picking up about a month early. [00:48] DaemonFC So flu season may run through March, but the ideal timing of the flu shot is "now" if you can, before you get caught up in this December mess. [00:48] schestowitz[TR] can you find me csc data for 2018-2020? [00:48] schestowitz[TR] death totals? [00:48] schestowitz[TR] they seem to 'hide' it [00:48] DaemonFC They don't want panic. [00:48] DaemonFC Remember? Trump said it. [00:49] schestowitz[TR] " Page last reviewed: July 20, 2022" [00:49] schestowitz[TR] i'll try internet archiuve/.wayback machine [00:49] schestowitz[TR] https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000*/https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm [00:49] TR Bot Wayback Machine [00:50] DaemonFC My grandmother is a weird one. [00:50] DaemonFC She always took two flu shots. [00:50] DaemonFC One in September and one in January. [00:50] schestowitz[TR] 2019 [00:50] schestowitz[TR] https://web.archive.org/web/20200714210636/https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm [00:50] TR Bot State and National Provisional Counts [00:50] DaemonFC I told mom "They make high dose shots for the elderly. Why not just get one of those and be done with it?". [00:51] DaemonFC When you get old, nothing wants to work right anymore. [00:51] DaemonFC So you need to give them a dosage that's like 40% higher to make sure they have sufficient flu immunity. [00:51] DaemonFC They've known this for a while now. [00:52] DaemonFC The flu is usually an extreme danger to babies and the very old. [00:52] DaemonFC Mom skips her flu shot every year and gets the flu instead. [00:52] DaemonFC She goes "Oh, those don't work.". [00:53] DaemonFC I said, "Well, I've gotten the flu shot every year since 2006 and I haven't had the flu since I lived with you and dad and you wouldn't get my vaccinated and you brought it home from the hospital every winter. [00:54] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [00:54] DaemonFC I mean, they were a couple of idiots who had no business being married, much less entrusted with kids. [00:54] DaemonFC But there are no rules for how can be a parent when you're an opposite-sex couple. [00:54] DaemonFC So on the medical front, it's been a lot of playing catch up with vaccines I should have gotten at a much younger age when I had good health insurance and didn't. [00:55] DaemonFC Because of those two. [00:55] DaemonFC And suddenly in the past 10 years I've had decent health coverage again and said "Hey, they pay for these, so here's $1,000 worth of vaccines that I should have gotten in childhood.". [00:55] DaemonFC They let me get chickenpox even though there was a vaccine for that too. [00:56] DaemonFC Dad didn't give a fuck and mom's an antivaxxer. [00:56] DaemonFC The only vaccines I remember getting were the ones where Indiana wouldn't let you into public school if you didn't have. [00:56] DaemonFC And they didn't have all this religious bullshit back then, or I wouldn't have gotten those either. [00:57] DaemonFC They had "Either you take care of your kids or you go to jail and we'll take care of your kids for you.". [00:57] DaemonFC That's what they had back then. [00:57] DaemonFC Times were better. [00:57] DaemonFC Now the entire country is going straight to hell, schestowitz[TR] [00:58] DaemonFC It's not the place I grew up in at all. Idiots, total idiots are running it. The inmates have taken over the asylum. [00:58] DaemonFC I mean, like more people were religious back then and we didn't have all these vaccine exemption laws. [00:59] DaemonFC Because even though it's gone from like 92% religious to like 76%, the 76% have shifted into some really creazy shit, man. [00:59] DaemonFC So they're more dangerous now than they've ever been before. [00:59] schestowitz[TR] uploading data [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 88.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.18 [00:59] DaemonFC I mean, back then it was are you Catholic, Wesleyan, or Methodist. [00:59] DaemonFC Now it's are you Pentecostal or Baptist? ● Oct 17 [01:00] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@6gcm9uav88pgc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:02] TR News CDC Data: US Deaths About 25% Higher This Winter Than Last Winter Before COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/17/cdc-data-on-us-deaths/ [01:02] TR Bot Blog Archive CDC Data: US Deaths About 25% Higher This Winter Than Last Winter Before COVID-19 [01:02] schestowitz[TR] you can double-check my numbers [01:03] DaemonFC My second cousin is one of the assistant pastors at the church we all used to go to, apparently. [01:03] schestowitz[TR] linked to the source of the data [01:03] DaemonFC I haven't seen any of them in years. [01:03] schestowitz[TR] and sadly they don't break down deaths by age groups [01:03] schestowitz[TR] would be interesting to see the increase among younger people [01:03] DaemonFC Noah Farmer is the pastor. I wonder how John and Carrie are doing. Those were the ones that were always in trouble. [01:03] schestowitz[TR] in UK my age group saw 10% increase in deaths [01:04] schestowitz[TR] 25% is not about covid purely [01:04] schestowitz[TR] just says a lot about people's survival rate [01:04] schestowitz[TR] like, if they survived but barely [01:04] schestowitz[TR] supluss of almost 200k people in just 3 months [01:04] DaemonFC Yeah, it went down a bit from 2018-209. [01:04] schestowitz[TR] in 2022 [01:04] DaemonFC *2019 [01:04] schestowitz[TR] biden: [01:04] schestowitz[TR] pandemic is over [01:05] DaemonFC And then 2020, 2021, and 2022 were like whoa. [01:05] schestowitz[TR] but even 2022 [01:05] schestowitz[TR] dont' expect 2023 to be back at 2019 levels [01:05] schestowitz[TR] people's bodies are messed up [01:05] schestowitz[TR] the "new normal" [01:05] schestowitz[TR] good for pension providers [01:06] schestowitz[TR] fewer people redeem the money [01:06] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Then mom acts like I'm Charles Manson for asking Mandy to take a vaccine. [01:06] DaemonFC We'll see how she likes getting COVID over and over until "That wasn't much." turns into lung disease. [01:06] schestowitz[TR] same as my mom [01:06] schestowitz[TR] she said to me [01:07] schestowitz[TR] repeatedly, [01:07] schestowitz[TR] "I'm living" [01:07] schestowitz[TR] orwant to staart living again [01:07] schestowitz[TR] I tell her [01:07] schestowitz[TR] no [01:07] schestowitz[TR] you will die [01:07] schestowitz[TR] and faster [01:07] schestowitz[TR] dying faster is not living [01:08] schestowitz[TR] staying at home a couple of years to live a couple of years longer is worth it [01:08] schestowitz[TR] brb, finishing work after a 4th night in a row [01:11] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Next year, I'm just going to plan ahead and ask Mandy to be taken off the schedule at work for a couple days. [01:11] DaemonFC That way he doesn't have to cover them with anything. [01:12] DaemonFC They're saying new vaccine every year now. [01:12] DaemonFC Which looks very likely. [01:12] schestowitz[TR] it'll be interesting to see cdc figures next winter/year [01:12] schestowitz[TR] january 2023 is near [01:12] schestowitz[TR] if the numbers don't improve, the pandemic is staying and still killing a lot [01:12] schestowitz[TR] ignore "excess mortality" [01:12] schestowitz[TR] the definition is typically 5-year average [01:13] schestowitz[TR] so they average over prior pandemic years [01:13] schestowitz[TR] https://web.archive.org/web/20180625181344/https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm [01:13] TR Bot Products - Vital Statistics Rapid Release - State and National Provisional Counts [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 2017 data [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 2016: [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 246,000 [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 230,000 [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 244,000 [01:14] DaemonFC My doctor isn't a bullshitter. [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 2017: [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 263,000 [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 234,000 [01:14] schestowitz[TR] 251,000 [01:14] DaemonFC She advised me to take the updated booster. [01:15] DaemonFC If I come across a doctor who I feel is a bullshit artist or doesn't give a fuck, I just move on and try another one. [01:15] DaemonFC There's only one down at the Health Department who isn't a quack/bullshit artist. [01:15] DaemonFC And I nudged Mandy into requesting her. [01:15] DaemonFC I've been very happy with her. Hope she never leaves. [01:16] DaemonFC They had to fire his last doctor (quack) for "reasons we can't discuss with you". [01:16] DaemonFC How terrifying is that? [01:16] schestowitz[TR] 27.2% higher than 2016 [01:16] DaemonFC She's the one that nuked him with statin drugs. [01:16] schestowitz[TR] I will update my post [01:16] DaemonFC I started cutting them in half. [01:17] DaemonFC And when he got in with the one he's seeing now she said, "I agree with Ryan. You don't need what you were taking. Half's good. Your numbers are great.". [01:17] DaemonFC It's amazing what people let unqualified doctors do to them. [01:17] DaemonFC He was going around going "Ouch ouch ouch, my joints hurt!" and when I cut his pills, it stopped. [01:18] DaemonFC And then his new doctor goes "Yeah, that's probably why.". [01:18] DaemonFC And his old one smiled and told me "Oh, Lipitor doesn't do thaaaaat!". [01:18] DaemonFC I'm on a statin too. Crestor. [01:19] DaemonFC The drug companies tell the doctors to start with 10 mg. I asked to start with 5 mg. My LDL-C came down 48% at the minimum dose! [01:19] DaemonFC There's a lot of people out there running around popping twice as much of their statin drug as they need and wondering why they have memory loss and joint pain and shit. [01:19] DaemonFC And it's their idiot doctor. [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] DaemonFC These are POWERFUL drugs. [01:20] starstreak cocaine is a hell of a drug [01:20] DaemonFC And at their minimum doses, they cover the needs of like 90% of the patients out there. [01:20] reptilian_thrills yeah i put my feet up on his couch! [01:21] DaemonFC Crestor is so powerful that at 5 mg, you know, you can barely even see the damned pill. [01:21] reptilian_thrills "why did i mess up his couch? so he could get a new one" [01:21] DaemonFC And it packs a punch. It lowers cholesterol more than Lipitor 20 mg. And it was designed that way so they could market it that way. [01:21] DaemonFC Do you have patients who have cholesterol that's hard to control? [01:21] DaemonFC Our 5 is better than their 20. [01:21] DaemonFC And Lipitor was the same. Our 20 is better than their 40. [01:22] schestowitz[TR] new normal: massive deterioration of global health [01:23] schestowitz[TR] except in china. it's not reporting :D [01:23] DaemonFC It reminds me of that Star Trek: TNG episode where an entire barter economy had been devised around a drug that one planet produced as their sole product, and the other planet needed to treat a disease. The drug cured the disease, but it also had a narcotic side effect. [01:23] schestowitz[TR] mortality rates or life expectancy improved for decades [01:23] DaemonFC So this planet producing it decided that instead of helping the other planet, they'd just continue refining the drug until you could pack enough for the whole other planet in a few boxes. [01:23] frog the deterioration of health doesn't affect everyone as sort of a social justice measure [01:23] schestowitz[TR] not the curse goes the other way, steeply [01:23] schestowitz[TR] *curve [01:23] frog lower income groups, die earlier [01:24] schestowitz[TR] that too [01:24] schestowitz[TR] but it was always like that [01:24] DaemonFC You could tell how the economies were going on both planets. [01:24] DaemonFC The drug dealer planet was well dressed, well educated, fat and lazy. [01:24] DaemonFC And the planet depending on the drugs were poor and agrarian, wearing beat up overalls. [01:25] DaemonFC Going "Please give us more!". [01:25] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [01:25] schestowitz[TR] this us data is more shocking than I expoected [01:25] DaemonFC That episode nailed the red state opioid epidemic in like 1987, and nobody paid any attention to it until like 2010? [01:25] schestowitz[TR] still looking at the spreadsheet [01:25] schestowitz[TR] us economy was crap even in 2016 [01:26] schestowitz[TR] that's the trump year [01:26] frog schestowitz[TR]: i still consider the mono-causal approach to COVID and vaccination irritating, and inappropriate, to explain any mortality data [01:26] schestowitz[TR] and 202k more people died in jan-mar this year [01:26] schestowitz[TR] (than back then) [01:26] DaemonFC Trump said it was all fake at the 2016 debate and that if interest rates went up even a little bit it would all come flying apart. [01:26] DaemonFC Nobody listened. [01:26] DaemonFC Nobody wanted for Trump to be right sometimes. [01:26] starstreak a broken clock is right twice a day [01:27] DaemonFC We're not out of the woods on the hyperstagflation era. [01:27] DaemonFC Not by a long shot. [01:27] DaemonFC As long as Biden and the Democrats can keep inflating the money supply, this will keep getting worse. [01:27] starstreak inflation is part of the great capitalist conspiracy, not Biden [01:27] DaemonFC And student loan repayments were having a deflationary effect. [01:28] DaemonFC Now that they're going to be "forgiven", the economy will overheat again, triggering more rate hikes, and fewer jobs. [01:28] DaemonFC Pausing student loan repayments this long was a terrible mistake, and forgiving them is a worse one. [01:28] DaemonFC It ensures that the Fed rate hikes will go on into the double digits. [01:29] schestowitz[TR] "Without a real strategy to regulate rents, President Biden lacks a real strategy to fight inflation" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/13/rent-too-damn-high-biden-pressured-act-housing-costs-fuel-inflation | Source: Common Dreams [01:29] TR Bot 'Rent Is Too Damn High': Biden Pressured to Act as Housing Costs Fuel Inflation [01:29] schestowitz[TR] techrights-news> "Median rent across the country is over $2,000 for the first time ever. And people simply cant afford it." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/11/activists_call_biden_address_rent_crisis [01:29] TR Bot As Rent Soars & Evictions Spike, Will Biden Address Housing Crisis with Same Urgency as Gas Prices? | Democracy Now! [01:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], We can't move. If we do, we'll be stuck paying $1,200 a month for a place this size anywhere else in town, if we can even get in at all. [01:30] DaemonFC That would be so much worse than $925. [01:30] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [01:30] DaemonFC We'd have to go live in "North Chicago" (which is actually right beside Waukegan and makes Waukegan look like the Emerald City in comparison. lol). [01:31] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], MARISOL shops at the Walmart all the time now with the GHETTO PEOPLE. [01:31] DaemonFC Everyone's getting knocked down, apparently. [01:31] DaemonFC From where they were. [01:32] DaemonFC OH, and EGGS, schestowitz[TR] [01:32] DaemonFC The eggs are up another $7 per 60. [01:32] DaemonFC They went from like $6 for 60 of them in 2020, to $17 for 60 of them now. [01:33] DaemonFC The price of eggs has nearly tripled in two years. [01:33] DaemonFC So my dad was right. We're there now. [01:33] schestowitz[TR] sounds like ripoff, DaemonFC [01:33] DaemonFC Biden's running a special on eggs. Pay for three dozen, but only get a dozen. [01:33] schestowitz[TR] for about $1000 or 900$ you get this: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/125585699#/media?channel=RES_LET&id=media16&ref=photoCollage [01:34] TR Bot 2 bedroom apartment for rent in Ashton Old Road, Manchester, Greater Manchester, M11 [01:34] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], The 60 count is the cheapest, per egg. [01:34] schestowitz[TR] next to a decent part of town [01:34] DaemonFC It's 8 cents more per egg in the dozen count. [01:34] DaemonFC So like 60 are actually $17.28 right now. [01:34] schestowitz[TR] The price of eggs has nearly tripled in two years. [01:34] DaemonFC So like $17.68 if you buy 60 by the dozen. [01:34] schestowitz[TR] many people just don't buuy them anymnore [01:34] schestowitz[TR] until they almost expire [01:35] schestowitz[TR] and then we take them :-) [01:35] starstreak linucks btw [01:37] schestowitz[TR] later today we carry about 25 KG in coins [01:39] frog grocery stores don't stockpile regular plant oil anymore (sunflower or rapeseed) [01:39] frog only at excess prices, which increased +300% in a few weeks 1euro/liter to 4euro/liter since february [01:40] frog doesn't make a relevant dent in my budget, nonetheless, it makes me think, what's going on with this [01:40] TR News Linux and WordPress now have the SAME latest version number: 6.0.2. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/166581519416722@kroah.com/ [01:40] TR Bot Linux 6.0.2 - Greg Kroah-Hartman [01:40] frog because plant oil to can be used with diesel combustion engines, or they are shipping this globally elsewhere [01:41] schestowitz[TR] x4 seems obscene [01:41] frog to afghanistan or wherever they ran out of supplies [01:41] schestowitz[TR] here it's about 80% increase [01:41] schestowitz[TR] in a year [01:41] frog the bottle i bought recently sold for 2Euro/liter rapeseed oil, same price as diesel fuel at the petrol station [01:42] frog however, there is rarely any remaining for sale [01:42] frog often margharine (~2.50/Kg) is out of stock too, in two grocery stores here... wondering what's going on [01:43] frog i have another suspicion, and theory about this [01:43] frog regardless of the price, i consider this a very dangerous trend [01:44] TR News Josh Bressers: Episode 345 Cheap hacking devices turn security upside down https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/16/episode-345-cheap-hacking-devices-turn-security-upside-down/ [01:44] TR Bot Episode 345 Cheap hacking devices turn security upside down Open Source Security [01:45] TR News Unix/Linux Command Syntax Convention - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N-oJGE_Wd2w | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/N-oJGE_Wd2w [01:45] TR Bot Unix/Linux Command Syntax Convention - Invidious [01:46] frog most sausages and meat products, which i like to eat during winter season, are very expensive, and very low quality [01:46] frog recently i found, a sausage contained 25% drinking water and cellulose to thicken this, and the price for this sausage was rather high, and they cheat with another 25% [01:47] *frog has quit (connection closed) [01:47] TR News iTWire - Oppo takes next logical step, launches first tablet in Australia https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-takes-next-logical-step,-launches-first-tablet-in-australia.html Source: IT Wire [01:47] TR Bot - Oppo takes next logical step, launches first tablet in Australia [01:47] *frog (~frog@acq5qqvgi8e2a.irc) has joined #techrights [01:47] frog weird [01:48] frog anyway, sausage quality is rather low nowadays; in comparison to what my grandmother cooked herself, without cellulose, and too better quality meat [01:50] frog they didn't keep pigs anymore, they only went to the farmer and had it butcher for them, to produce sausage themselves, and conserved it in glasses [01:50] frog ed [01:50] frog what is sold in grocery stores nowadays, even when labeled as a type of sausage, is nowhere near real farmer's quality often [01:51] frog conserved meat, is particularly low quality, too much fat, to heavily grinded, to few spices, too much salt, disgusting [01:51] TR News (NEW): Shows/Videos: Manpages, Security, GNU, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Shows_Videos_Manpages_Security_GNU_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Shows_Videos_Manpages_Security_GNU_and_More.gmi [01:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Shows/Videos: Manpages, Security, GNU, and More [01:52] TR News (NEW): Review: ravynOS 0.4.0 and Lion Linux 3.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Review_ravynOS_0_4_0_and_Lion_Linux_3_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Review_ravynOS_0_4_0_and_Lion_Linux_3_0.gmi [01:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Review: ravynOS 0.4.0 and Lion Linux 3.0 [01:52] frog sometimes i was watching youtube videos, east-german cooking until 1990, some of which is for fun and nostalgia, and too the memories food was better quality [01:54] frog same with cookies, and cake, self-made one, even when grandma added some industrial pudding or little vanilla aroma, they didn't safe on ingredients [01:54] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D731.jpg [01:54] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D386.jpg [01:55] frog and fresh fruits from the garden, many east-germans had a little garden, even in the cities, where they spent most of their free time during summer [01:56] frog which was amazing for children too, even when the typical soviet housing wasn't luxurious, the weekend-life in the garden communities was great [01:56] schestowitz[TR] AGGIculture [01:56] schestowitz[TR] anyway, gn [01:56] frog sleep well [01:56] schestowitz[TR] ty [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 130.16 ● Oct 17 [02:01] frog the garden-community life too was heavily regulated, just like many other aspects of soviet life-style [02:03] frog any garden owner had to comply, 75% of the garden soil had to be used for farming, even when it was only a tiny garden, some tomatoes, strawberries, no more than a few square meters for barbeque space with gras, no asphalt or stone [02:04] frog there was even some democratic elections, for the supervising body of gardening, who will inspect rules are complied with, which they did regularly [02:07] *frog has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:07] *frog (~frog@gyqjhgtvpaygy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:08] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:08] frog i mean, if i had a choice, i would dispose the modern comfort of remote heating and internet, and travel back in time to heat with coal instead [02:09] frog at least, this was affordable, and warm during winter [02:09] frog quality of commodity goods was decent too, and most of it, made in germany, not made in china [02:10] frog problem with this was, scarcity, it was often difficult to buy any goods, almost all of it was produced domestically [02:11] frog which is interesting too, with some documentaries, when any electronics part was missing in east germany, this had to be produced domestically too [02:11] frog this fundementally changes the perspective, onto the modern tech industry, and their volatile global supply chains [02:13] frog you simply couldn't order any part from anywhere, you had to produce it yourself, in coordination with industry and universities, and the political committees [02:13] dope_dealer frog: you are one crazy nigga [02:13] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:16] frog it's contradicting, because east-german economy was in trouble, nonetheless high-tech was still produced domestically [02:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [02:17] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [02:17] frog even the Brits ordered some computers from east-germany for evaluation (some early z80 type system from Erfurt) [02:18] frog the Epson matrix type printers, were produced in east-germany too, and resold with different branding elsewhere [02:18] frog i think, the matrix printers were developed and produced in east-germany, and then production moved to Asia and appeared in western stores [02:19] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 83 GB TotalOut: 22 GB [03:03] DaemonFC Situation normal! [03:04] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:06] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], One thing is that the people at the top of the government don't care. [03:06] DaemonFC They're all vaccinated and get the best care anyway if they do get sick. [03:07] DaemonFC They spent most of the worst parts of this saying reopen the economy because the people of the working age population were unlikely to die from it. [03:07] DaemonFC To them, the nursing home age population is a drag on the economy and pressure to do something about Social Security. [03:07] DaemonFC So they're not real worried about if they die or not. [03:08] DaemonFC They don't much like anyone on Social Security, but the ones in long term care are costing the government the most, by far. [03:10] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [03:10] DaemonFC https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/311934852_547443170523468_699479813173865667_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=8ahB5riAh2cAX_tOhq-&_nc_oc=AQnBVoLBk47E-tHdTqltSqO0lMIv7kQNUJFeP8gt8d7x4Q9HQ5sVmE0c8EwPcxXb-Vc&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT-rirDKZnf2eeZ8iaVIRvHGftkNNVy-B3F1AjTUm9zz7w&oe=635177BE [03:11] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@a3xpmjae2sk3u.irc) has joined #techrights [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[03:21] DaemonFC The images were uploaded and disseminated on the messaging application Discord, the complaint showed. [03:21] DaemonFC It was not known how investigators were first alerted to the crime." [03:21] DaemonFC It's not known that Discord turned him over to the cops? Wow. :) [03:23] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/16/man-arrested-after-allegedly-burglarizing-church-in-beach-park-stealing-copper-piping/ [03:23] TR Bot Man arrested after allegedly burglarizing church in Beach Park, stealing copper piping [03:23] DaemonFC Somehow, people with this face find somewhere to live while landlords snub me. [03:25] DaemonFC "Davila also had two active warrants, one out of Georgia and another out of Pennsylvania. One of the warrants is extraditable and Potkonjak ordered Davila held without bond on that warrant. [03:25] DaemonFC " [03:27] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/14/200k-bond-for-repeat-retail-theft-suspect-who-allegedly-escaped-police-custody-in-waukegan/ [03:27] TR Bot $200K bond for repeat retail theft suspect who allegedly escaped police custody in Waukegan [03:27] DaemonFC "He made suicidal statements while in custody and paramedics were called to evaluate him. [03:27] DaemonFC Longmire had his handcuffs in the front due to a dislocated shoulder, Katris said. [03:27] DaemonFC As officers were walking him to the ambulance, he allegedly broke free and ran away. [03:27] DaemonFC He was found minutes later and was taken back into custody, Katris said." [03:28] DaemonFC "Prosecutors said he jumped over fences and ended up in the backyard of a home, which was owned by a Zion police sergeant." [03:28] Helenah 23:10:48 reptilian_thrills | helenah has a rig that can run one (maybe two of them) [03:28] Helenah lol [03:30] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/14/500k-bond-for-convicted-felon-on-parole-found-with-stolen-gun-drugs-in-lake-county/ [03:30] TR Bot $500K bond for convicted felon on parole found with stolen gun, drugs in Lake County [03:30] DaemonFC The gun, a Springfield Armory XD 45 handgun, was determined to have been stolen out of Alabama. [03:30] DaemonFC The handgun had a fully loaded magazine and a laser sight, DeRosa said. [03:30] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kF1TsOkJeA [03:30] TR Bot https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=3kF1TsOkJeA [03:30] TR Bot youtube.076.ne.jp | The Terminator 1984 Wrong Sarah Connor HD Clip 6 23 - Invidious [03:31] *reptilian_thrills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:44] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@hrazuzhsbr4rk.irc) has joined #techrights [03:49] DaemonFC https://news.northeastern.edu/2022/06/10/yankee-candle-reviews-and-covid-19-trends/ [03:49] TR Bot What Yankee Candle Reviews Reveal About COVID-19 Trends - News @ Northeastern [03:57] DaemonFC https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=chicken%20soup&geo=US [03:57] TR Bot ( status 429 @ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=chicken%20soup&geo=US ) [03:59] DaemonFC https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=monkeypox [03:59] TR Bot ( status 429 @ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=monkeypox ) [03:59] DaemonFC Nobody searching for Monkeypox anymore. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 137.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 111.43 ● Oct 17 [04:08] DaemonFC https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=firefox [04:08] TR Bot ( status 429 @ https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=firefox ) [04:09] DaemonFC Interest in "Firefox" down to virtually nothing in the US by Google search. [04:09] DaemonFC 5% as many searches as June 2008, when it peaked. [04:19] chunky i use firefox [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:57] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 122.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 100.86 ● Oct 17 [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:42] DaemonFC https://i.redd.it/ctmzl6h81yt91.png [05:42] DaemonFC Canada's government currently advises its citizens to take more caution when traveling to the UK than to the US. [05:44] DaemonFC https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states [05:44] TR Bot Travel advice and advisories for United States (USA) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 55.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 198.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 72.48 ● Oct 17 [06:05] *horseface (~horseface@4u9546nay3hv6.irc) has joined #techrights [06:13] *horseface has quit (Quit: PING TIMEOUT!!! >9000 FOR SURE!!!) [06:13] *danielinux has quit (*.net *.split) [06:13] *danielinux (sbnc@danielinux.default.trexotech.uk0.bigv.io) has joined #techrights [06:15] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/Anticonsumption/comments/y5lqzl/check_out_the_shrinkflation_hereso_much_extra/ [06:16] TR Bot Check out the shrinkflation hereso much extra trash to trick the consumer : Anticonsumption [06:16] DaemonFC Helenah, Chips. [06:16] Helenah DaemonFC: Chips [06:17] DaemonFC 2/3rds of the bag is trash filled with air. [06:17] DaemonFC Like I was saying. [06:17] *horseface (~horseface@4u9546nay3hv6.irc) has joined #techrights [06:18] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/y55ufs/these_used_to_be_a_6pack_now_we_get_41_yay/ [06:18] TR Bot These used to be a 6-pack. Now, we get 4+1 (yay!) : shrinkflation [06:18] DaemonFC They stole a battery out of a 6 pack and say 4 pack with a bonus one. [06:19] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/y52xks/safety_meeting/ [06:19] TR Bot Safety meeting : shrinkflation [06:19] DaemonFC A 12 pack of condoms is now 10. [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:21] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/y2n7ui/worlds_finest_chocolates/ [06:21] TR Bot Worlds Finest Chocolates : shrinkflation [06:21] DaemonFC I used to sell these to raise money for cub scouts. [06:22] DaemonFC They were four times bigger in 1996 and you could buy one for $2. [06:22] DaemonFC Looks like they stole 3/4ths of it, but lowered the price to $1? [06:22] DaemonFC Weird. [06:24] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/shrinkflation/comments/y1nzdz/hellofresh_10_oz_meat_package/ [06:24] TR Bot HelloFresh 10 oz Meat Package : shrinkflation [06:24] DaemonFC 10 ounce package of HelloFresh ground beef only has 6.84 ounces in it, including the plastic vacuum pack wrapper. [06:43] *phanes watches the poors get mad about how big the meat is in the ration portions [06:43] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [06:44] Helenah o.o [06:47] phanes they are not so hungry yet, but, they might become so, and if they do they will surely eat us [06:48] phanes the rich of tomorrow are learning about the supply chains of today [06:49] phanes i think we'll see an emergence of merchant traders to fill that gap and i think it'll create billionaires [06:49] phanes an old world merchant model [06:50] phanes on the bright side this will show a resounding re-emergence along the way, and by trend, of a revived, social morality [06:50] phanes it will have to [06:51] phanes or we will descend into history [06:52] phanes not the fake kind where karen is screaming about being confused for a man, but the real kind where neighbors tend to each other as parts of a community and stand against the malevolence that has dominated our current age [06:56] phanes we need to revise the reward model for behaviours [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 71.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 120.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 43.93 ● Oct 17 [07:01] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@cxkaa3wjkjdy8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:02] phanes reptilian_thrills, https://imgur.com/2DU9Q7Z.png [07:19] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:23] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:23] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [07:23] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:23] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:25] TR News (NEW): Create your own private cellular data network with Ukama (Crowdfunding) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Create_your_own_private_cellular_data_network_with_Ukama_Crowdf.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Create_your_own_private_cellular_data_network_with_Ukama_Crowdf.gmi [07:25] TR Bot Tux Machines Create your own private cellular data network with Ukama (Crowdfunding) [07:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:30] TR News "So what you need is to get a new set of Linux Kernel Firmware blobs and upack that in /lib/firmware." http://aigarius.com/blog/2022/10/16/ryzen-7000-amdgpu/ | Source: Aigars Mahinovs [07:30] TR Bot 7000 amdgpu boot hang | Aigarius Blog [07:30] TR News "are harming maintainability, but not deliberate." https://berk.es/2022/09/06/frameworks-harm-maintenance/ | [07:30] TR Bot Using a Framework will harm the maintenance of your software [07:31] TR News "Because our servers have different amounts of swap configured, I'm going to look at both how much swap space has been left free and how much swap space has been used." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OurServerSwapSpaceUsage | Source: uni Toronto [07:31] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OurServerSwapSpaceUsage [07:31] TR News "tee(1) duplicates standard output, letting you preview output and write it to a file." https://rubenerd.com/the-wonderful-tee-command/ | Source: Ruben Schade [07:31] TR Bot The wonderful tee(1) command [07:32] TR News "This small one liner lets you generate an OpenSSL self signed certificate with both a common name and a Subject Alternative Name (SAN)." https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/OpenSSL_generate_self_signed_cert_with_Subject_Alternative_name_oneliner.html | Source: Remy Van Elst [07:32] TR Bot generate self signed certificate with SAN in one command (subject alternative name) - Raymii.org [07:32] TR News "Over the following few sections, we will show you how to install and run the latest version of Netdata on your Raspberry Pi" https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-netdata/ | [07:32] TR Bot Running Netdata on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up [07:32] TR News "The customary 0% to 100% measure is really a measure of how much of the machine you're using and how much you have left." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/CPUUtilizationTwoViews | Source: uni Toronto [07:32] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/CPUUtilizationTwoViews [07:32] TR News [Old] "I find myself constantly running into small issues when trying to setup existing Jekyll projects on new Linux systems." https://tdarb.org/blog/fresh-jekyll-linux.html | Source: Bradley Taunt [07:32] TR Bot / Setup Jekyll from Scratch on a New Linux System [07:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:33] TR News [Old] "I might have attacked the overall Linux desktop experience in favor of macOS a little harshly in this post" https://tdarb.org/blog/linux-love.html | Source: Bradley Taunt [07:33] TR Bot / The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love [07:34] TR News "With over 100 applications available in the Snap Store, KDE is by far the biggest publisher of snaps around." https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-long-arm-of-kde | Source: Ubuntu [07:34] TR Bot long ARM of KDE | Ubuntu [07:34] TR News "Watch this TedEd lesson by Henry Richardson, directed by Anna Benner, to learn about the US Power Grid and the 7,300+ plants that comprise it and how renewable energy factors in." https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/10/16/learn-about-the-us-power-grid-the-worlds-largest-machine/ | Source: Adafruit [07:34] TR Bot Learn About the US Power Grid, the Worlds Largest Machine Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers! [07:35] TR News "When sizing replacement A/C units, remember that in the United States manufacturers only reported the ASHRAE BTU cooling capacity until 2017 (this is a nice explanation)." https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/10/ir-controlling-new-air-conditioner-in.html | Source: Old VCR [07:35] TR Bot Old Vintage Computing Research: IR-controlling the new air conditioner in the vintage server room [07:36] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [07:36] TR News "See, theres a certain type of intellectual who criticizes the powers that be yet lives in a way that is dependent upon them. The tenured professor of philosophy who decries the gatekeeping of knowledge yet publishes her papers in a prestigious journal inaccessible to the public" gemini://jhpotter.srht.site/gemlog/militanta.gmi [07:37] TR News Whales are fish gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fruit-and-fish [07:38] TR News New Fractal Images: - Mandelbrot 0001 gemini://gem.librehacker.com/fractals/mandelbrot/mand0001.png [07:39] TR News "The data is replicated from the Primary database to the Standby or Secondary databases." https://earthly.dev/blog/set-up-postgresql-db/ | Source: Earthly [07:39] TR Bot How to Set up a Postgresql Database Replication for Optimization and High Availability in a Django Application - Earthly Blog [07:39] TR News "One of my favorite Postgres features is Full Text Search (FTS). Search is a common requirement of applications." https://supabase.com/blog/postgres-full-text-search-vs-the-rest | [07:39] TR Bot Postgres Full Text Search vs the rest [07:40] TR News "To illustrate the idea of simple linear regression, we will use a very straightforward dataset." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/10/simple-linear-regression-in-r-3/ | Source: Rlang [07:40] TR Bot Linear Regression in R | R-bloggers [07:40] TR News "1. The goals of your mission are: Statistical evaluation or application" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/10/difference-between-r-and-python/ | Source: Rlang [07:40] TR Bot between R and Python | R-bloggers [07:40] TR News "This is a simple sync.Locker implementation in Go for learning purposes." https://blog.fredrb.com/2022/10/16/go-concurrency-simple-lock-impl/ | Source: Frederico Bittencourt [07:40] TR Bot Concurrency in Go: simple lock implementation | Fredrb's Blog [07:41] TR News "Throughout my career of designing and developing software I have run into this exact issue far too often." https://tdarb.org/blog/avoid-featurism.html | Source: Bradley Taunt [07:41] TR Bot / Avoiding Featurism [07:41] TR News "Ive been playing around with some examples to better understand how Gos memory model behaves on concurrent programs." https://blog.fredrb.com/2022/10/15/go-concurrency-shared-memory/ | Source: Frederico Bittencourt [07:41] TR Bot Concurrency in Go: shared memory | Fredrb's Blog [07:42] TR News "IF ELSE- ELSE IF Statement in R, A developers best tool when trying to return output based on a condition is an if-else statement." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/10/if-else-else-if-statement-in-r/ | Source: Rlang [07:42] TR Bot ELSE- ELSE IF Statement in R | R-bloggers [07:43] TR News "I often use the AWS Command Line Interface to create or modify AWS assets, typically in the context of a bash shell script." https://www.madboa.com/blog/2017/12/08/aws-filtering/ | Source: Paul Heinlein [07:43] TR Bot AWS Filtering in bash [07:43] TR News Microsoft TCO https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/14/microsoft-365-message-encryption-found-leak-structural-information-messages/ | Source: Silicon Angle [07:43] TR Bot 365 Message Encryption found to leak structural information in messages - SiliconANGLE [07:44] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://locusmag.com/2022/10/baker-taylor-ransomware-attack/ | Source: Locus Magazine [07:44] TR Bot Baker & Taylor Ransomware Attack Locus Online [07:45] TR News DailyFail distracts from Bill Gates and co https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11319119/Ghislaine-Maxwell-pays-tribute-dear-friend-Prince-Andrew-Florida-prison-walls.html [07:45] TR Bot Ghislaine Maxwell pays tribute to 'dear friend' Prince Andrew from behind Florida prison walls | Daily Mail Online [07:45] TR News smh revisionism regarding sweden https://www.smh.com.au/national/it-s-horrible-lawyer-jen-robinson-on-the-toughest-part-of-working-for-assange-20220726-p5b4ln.html [07:45] TR Bot Jennifer Robinson: Human rights lawyer for Julian Assange, Amber Heard, and West Papuan freedom fighters [07:45] TR News "Jim Hall (Jim): GNOME has lots of great desktop features. What are some of the new features in GNOME 43?" https://opensource.com/article/22/10/whats-new-gnome-43-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [07:45] TR Bot new in GNOME 43? | Opensource.com [07:47] TR News "While XML (Extensible Markup Language) is a human-readable markup language, you'll more likely find XML files unstructured enough to give you headaches!" https://linuxhandbook.com/pretty-print-xml/ | Source: Linux Handbook [07:47] TR Bot Pretty Print XML in Linux Command Line [07:48] TR News "Humble has two big bundles you might be interested in taking a look at." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/days-of-the-devs-2022-bundle-is-live-plus-a-paradox-interactive-dlc-build-your-own-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:48] TR Bot of the Devs 2022 Bundle is live, plus a Paradox Interactive DLC build your own bundle | GamingOnLinux [07:48] TR News "GB Operator excites the collector in me, giving you a small device to plug into your PC or Steam Deck, allowing you to play real Game Boy cartridges." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/play-real-game-boy-cartridges-on-steam-deck-linux-with-gb-operator/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:48] TR Bot real Game Boy cartridges on Steam Deck / Linux with GB Operator | GamingOnLinux [07:48] TR News "Two bits of big NVIDIA news for you today one confirmed and one not so confirmed, which concerns a double-cancellation with the RTX 4080 12GB and a 4090 Ti / Titan." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/nvidia-qunlaunchingq-the-rtx-4080-12gb-apparently-4090-ti-cancelled-due-to-melting/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [07:48] TR Bot "unlaunching" the RTX 4080 12GB, apparently 4090 Ti cancelled due to melting | GamingOnLinux [07:50] TR News 2016 and 2017 figures show that compared to 2016 (202,000 deaths fewer than 2022) there is a 27.2% increase. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/17/cdc-data-on-us-deaths/ [07:50] TR Bot Blog Archive CDC Data: US Deaths About 25% Higher This Winter Than Last Winter Before COVID-19 (Updated) [07:51] TR News "In this guide, we take a look at the 32 most used Firefox add-ons to enhance your productivity in Linux desktops." https://www.tecmint.com/firefox-add-ons-productivity/ | Source: TecMint [07:51] TR Bot Best Firefox Add-ons to Improve Productivity in Linux [07:51] TR News ""In this guide, we will take a look at the mkdir command which is used to create a directory. https://www.tecmint.com/mkdir-command-examples/ | Source: TecMint [07:51] TR Bot How to Create Directories in Linux Using mkdir Command [07:51] TR News paywall :( https://doctorow.medium.com/unspeakable-8c7bbd4974bc [07:51] TR Bot Unspeakable. Big-Tech-as-cop vs. abolishing Big Tech | by Cory Doctorow | Oct, 2022 | Medium [07:51] TR News Why did he suspect a COVID surge was coming? He followed the digital breadcrumbs https://text.npr.org/1128692167 [07:51] TR Bot Why did he suspect a COVID surge was coming? He followed the digital breadcrumbs [07:52] TR News microsoft itself is a blunder https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/how-a-microsoft-blunder-opened-millions-of-pcs-to-potent-malware-attacks/ [07:52] TR Bot How a Microsoft blunder opened millions of PCs to potent malware attacks | Ars Technica [07:53] TR News Defaults https://matt-rickard.com/defaults [07:53] TR Bot Defaults [07:53] TR News grandforksherald blocked by javascript https://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/letters/letter-censorship-of-books-is-never-a-good-idea [07:53] TR Bot Letter: Censorship of books is never a good idea - Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, East Grand Forks news, weather & sports [07:54] TR News iophk: twitter is a /disinformation/ channel and not an appropriate recommendation in any field or context https://statsandr.com/blog/how-to-keep-up-to-date-with-the-latest-r-news/ [07:54] TR Bot How to keep yourself updated with the latest R news? - Stats and R [07:54] TR News "Billion-dollar entertainment industry companies often complain about widespread copyright infringement." https://torrentfreak.com/extreme-weather-videographer-faces-copyright-infringement-hurricane-221016/ | Source: Torrent Freak [07:54] TR Bot Weather Videographer Faces Copyright Infringement Hurricane * TorrentFreak [07:55] TR News "This past week, Beelink released the GTR6 mini PC which is built around the powerful Ryzen 6900HX processor from AMD." https://linuxgizmos.com/ryzen-9-based-minipc-supports-quad-displays-with-8k60hz-resolution/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [07:55] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/ryzen-9-based-minipc-supports-quad-displays-with-8k60hz-resolution/ ) [07:55] TR News "Ebikes are slowly taking the place of many cars, especially for short trips." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/ebike-charges-in-the-sun/ | Source: Hackaday [07:55] TR Bot Charges In The Sun | Hackaday [07:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], In the midst of COVID, people who couldn't smell a Yankee candle should have suspected COVID immediately. [07:57] DaemonFC These aren't those cheap shitty candles that have no scent at all and burn down in a few hours. [07:57] DaemonFC Though it's much better to put them on a candle warmer. [07:57] DaemonFC They can go on and on for weeks if you use a warmer instead of lighting the wick. [07:58] DaemonFC You can smell a Yankee Candle. They have excellent quality control. [07:58] schestowitz[TR] so says NPR [07:58] DaemonFC If you suddenly can't, you know you're in trouble. [07:58] schestowitz[TR] I also linked to that yesterday [07:58] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] schestowitz[TR] it "smelleD" like an ads [07:59] schestowitz[TR] *ad [07:59] TR News "Hardly noticed by the general public, the Advocate General (AG) of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) has issued an opinion, aiming to limit one of the last potential avenues for users to enforce their privacy rights under the GDPR." https://noyb.eu/en/alarming-court-justice-may-severely-limit-enforcement-europeans-privacy-rights | Source: NYOB [07:59] TR Bot Alarming: Court of Justice may severely limit enforcement of Europeans privacy rights [07:59] TR News "Finally, universal human rights set the boundaries for state action." https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/chatcontrol.pdf | [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 124.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 71.96 ● Oct 17 [08:00] TR News "A 270-page Franklin dossier was released in September following Freedom of Information Act requests by the Detroit Free Press and other news media outlets after the singers 2018 death." https://eu.freep.com/story/entertainment/music/brian-mccollum/2022/10/16/aretha-franklin-fbi-angela-davis/69565588007/ | Source: Gannett [08:00] TR Bot Angela Davis reacts to FBIs Aretha Franklin tracking: I was shocked [08:00] TR News "The company's so-called RPlate can be equipped with GPS and allows users, including employers, to track a vehicle's location and mileage." https://text.npr.org/1129305660 | Source: NPR [08:00] TR Bot California drivers can now sport digital license plates on their cars [08:00] DaemonFC it "smelleD" like an ads [08:00] DaemonFC Could be. [08:01] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I did a Google trend search for chicken soup. [08:01] DaemonFC It spiked with each surge of COVID and it's on the way up right now. [08:01] TR News "The digital plates will be able to display different emergency messages" https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-12/digital-license-plate-california-here-is-how-to-get-one-for-your-car-reviver | Source: Los Angeles Times [08:01] TR Bot Californians can now get a digital license plate for their car. Here's how - Los Angeles Times [08:01] TR News "These tracking technologies give people a false sense of security" https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-uneasy-use-for-apples-airtags-tracking-a-loved-one-with-dementia-11665794986?mod=pls_whats_news_us_business_f | Source: The Wall Street Journal [08:01] TR Bot Uneasy Use for Apples AirTags: Tracking a Loved One With Dementia - WSJ [08:01] TR News "The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) paused its use of artificial intelligence and facial recognition software in 2020" https://jacobin.com/2022/10/canada-mass-surveillance-facial-recognition-democracy-privacy/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine [08:01] DaemonFC The search term "fever" was highest in the past 7 days in the deep south and in red states in general. [08:01] TR Bot Mass Surveillance Is Bad News for Privacy and Democracy [08:02] schestowitz[TR] soar throat is a common symptom atm [08:02] schestowitz[TR] sore [08:02] schestowitz[TR] a.5 [08:03] TR News "Its been a LONG time since the last update. Since then, we put in an application for planning permission and got refused." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/10/15/solar-farm-update-we-finally-have-planning-permission/ | Source: Positech Games [08:03] TR Bot Solar Farm update: We finally have planning permission! Cliffski's Blog [08:03] TR News "Just Stop Oil accepts donations in cryptocurrency" https://text.npr.org/1129322429 | Source: NPR [08:03] TR Bot Who is Just Stop Oil, the group that threw soup on Van Gogh's painting? [08:04] TR News We gave our elephant family some extra-large pumpkins to stomp on and chomp on, said Steve Lefave https://www.oregonzoo.org/news/2022/10/squishin-accomplished-elephants-smash-giant-pumpkins | [08:04] TR Bot Squishin' accomplished! Elephants smash giant pumpkins | Oregon Zoo [08:04] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Well, if they're having spikes like this in the wastewater in an increasing number of Illinois cities nearby, then.... [08:04] DaemonFC It's not going to stay out of Waukegan. [08:05] DaemonFC We're probably looking at a week or two and then we're in the same boat as Beach Park. [08:05] schestowitz[TR] here, at some points 1 in 12 people have covid-19 [08:05] schestowitz[TR] at a given timer [08:05] schestowitz[TR] winter usually [08:05] schestowitz[TR] instead of like a in 10k [08:05] schestowitz[TR] like 2 years ago [08:05] DaemonFC Nothing controls the spread in Waukegan. It actually hit Waukegan harder than Chicago or New York when the first wave happened. [08:06] DaemonFC Nobody was listening to the government and staying inside. [08:06] DaemonFC They were throwing house parties. If someone asked them to wear a mask, they'd shoot that person, or at least punch them. [08:06] TR News "In a paper titled Chat Control or Child Protection?" https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/13/clientside_scanning_csam_anderson/ | Source: The Register UK [08:06] TR Bot Client-side scanning to detect child abuse material harmful The Register [08:06] DaemonFC It's a city full of thugs and gangs. [08:06] TR News "The log referenced drafts of a 13 May email to the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) - the American regulator which enforces the law against market manipulation." https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63254883 | Source: BBC [08:06] TR Bot Musk under federal investigation over Twitter deal - BBC News [08:06] TR News "On 10 October 2022, EU Commissioner for Home Affairs, Ylva Johansson, addresses the European Parliaments Civil Liberties (LIBE) Committee about the proposed EU Child Sexual Abuse Regulation (2022/0155)." https://edri.org/our-work/johanssons-address-to-meps-shows-why-the-csa-law-will-fail-the-children-meant-to-benefit-from-it/ | Source: EDRI [08:06] DaemonFC I'm sure they ran right out and got vaccinated and boosted. :P [08:06] TR Bot Johansson's address to MEPs shows why the CSA law will fail the children meant to benefit from it - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [08:07] DaemonFC By the time there was a vaccine, I think Mandy and I were the only people in Waukegan that hadn't already had COVID. [08:07] TR News [Old] "There apparently was a Russian troll operation that aimed at exacerbating divisions" https://www.investigativeproject.org/9260/the-new-york-times-linda-sarsour | Source: IPT [08:07] TR Bot The New York Times, Linda Sarsour, and Misinformation :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism [08:07] DaemonFC You should have heard everyone at that motel walking past the door and hacking and wheezing. [08:07] TR News "I think it's really important from a very early age that we understand that there is no free good here." https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63207771 | Source: BBC [08:07] TR Bot technology poses major risk - GCHQ Chief - BBC News [08:07] DaemonFC It was SCARY. [08:08] schestowitz[TR] I'm sure they ran right out and got vaccinated and boosted. :P [08:08] schestowitz[TR] yeah, because those vaccines top the spread [sarcasm] [08:08] schestowitz[TR] *stop [08:08] DaemonFC As soon as there were any vaccine appointments in Illinois, I got us in. Downstate of course, because the government has to pretend they're not a bunch of retards down there denying that COVID even exists at all. [08:09] TR News Censorship https://www.nepalitimes.com/banner/un-censures-censors/ | [08:09] TR Bot UN censures censors | Nepali Times [08:09] DaemonFC I got to talking to the people in line in Pekin, Illinois and at least half of us were from Chicago or the suburbs. [08:09] DaemonFC And we were all 200 miles downstate getting a COVID shot. [08:09] DaemonFC Fucking moron Pritzker sent shots they didn't want down there. [08:09] TR News "Weve had a couple more data points over the past week demonstrating the dangers to democracy posed by the seemingly tight interplay between the worlds rising authoritarian leaders" https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/10/17/india-modi-censorship-misinformation-facebook-meta/ | Source: Crickey [08:09] TR Bot Facebook denies empowering Indian government's censorship [08:09] TR News "This censorship extends to WeChat, the dominant messaging app with over 1.2 billion global users, the majority of whom live in China." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/16/1061713/wechat-accounts-begging-tencent-beijing-protest/ | Source: MIT Technology Review [08:10] TR Bot WeChat users are begging Tencent to restore their accounts after a Beijing protest | MIT Technology Review [08:10] TR News "Similarly, we must point out the unacceptable lack of implementation of the recommendations made by the landmark Public Inquiry into Caruana Galizias assassination and the exclusion of structured public consultation" https://www.indexoncensorship.org/2022/10/where-is-the-sense-of-urgency/ | Source: Index On Censorship [08:10] TR Bot Where is the sense of urgency? - Index on Censorship Index on Censorship [08:10] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Amusingly, Pritzker made "vaccine equity" even worse by doing that. [08:10] TR News "Nils Melzer, United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture reveals judicial, political, media cultures built to persecute and demonise Assange in his book The Trial of Julian Assange." https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/due-process-law-deceitful-farce-ask-julian-assange | [08:10] TR Bot Due process in law a deceitful farce: ask Julian Assange | Green Left [08:11] DaemonFC People from Chicago who had a car (mostly white and at least lower middle class) hopped in and got vaccinated while everyone else had to wait for months. [08:11] TR News "The engine driving the lynching of Julian is not here on Pennsylvania Avenue." https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ | Source: Salon [08:11] TR Bot justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com [08:11] TR News "The fight to free Julian" https://www.dw.com/en/documentary-ithaka-the-fight-to-free-julian-assange/a-63441770 | Source: Deutsche Welle [08:11] TR Bot Ithaka: The fight to free Julian Assange | Film | DW | 15.10.2022 [08:12] TR News "He faces 175 years if he is extradited for his publishing work." https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/julian-assange-meps-wikileaks-belmarsh-prison-ecuadorian-embassy-b1032472.html | Source: Evening Standard UK [08:12] TR Bot Julian Assange makes final shortlist for human rights award | Evening Standard [08:12] TR News "The campaign to free Julian Assange takes on intimate dimensions in this documentary portrait of an elderly mans fight to save his son." https://connachttribune.ie/galway-alliance-against-war-to-screen-new-film-on-julian-assange-this-evening/ | [08:12] TR Bot Galway Alliance Against War to Screen new film on Julian Assange this evening Connacht Tribune Galway City Tribune: [08:12] TR News "Meaning: It is highly likely that ZDNet is being paid, in some way, for sending new customers to NordVPN." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/advertising-is-killing-tech-journalism | Source: Bryan Lunduke [08:12] TR Bot Advertising is killing Tech Journalism - by Bryan Lunduke [08:13] TR News "wrongfully disclosed this dossier first to Mr. Solomons employer" https://www.reuters.com/legal/former-wsj-reporter-says-law-firm-used-indian-hackers-sabotage-his-career-2022-10-15/ | Source: Reuters [08:13] TR Bot WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career | Reuters [08:18] TR News (NEW): Lubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Lubuntu_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Lubuntu_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.gmi [08:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Lubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features [08:18] TR News (NEW): Games: Days of the Devs 2022 Bundle, Game Boy, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Games_Days_of_the_Devs_2022_Bundle_Game_Boy_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Games_Days_of_the_Devs_2022_Bundle_Game_Boy_and_More.gmi [08:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Days of the Devs 2022 Bundle, Game Boy, and More [08:18] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_howtos.gmi [08:18] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [08:19] TR News "The Capitalist system has separated labor from ownership and reduced the workers to a condition of wage slavery." https://jacobin.com/2022/10/eugene-debs-genius-freedom-socialism/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine [08:19] TR Bot Eugene V. Debs: Socialism Will Free Workers From Private Tyranny [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:20] TR News "The union victory follows a vote to unionize an Apple store in Towson, Maryland, in June." https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/apple-workers-oklahoma-vote-unionize-2nd-labor-win-91552758 | Source: ABC [08:20] TR Bot Apple workers in Oklahoma vote to unionize in 2nd labor win - ABC News [08:21] TR News Sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/16/sanders-advice-democrats-running-midterms-talk-about-economy | Source: Common Dreams [08:21] TR Bot Sanders' Advice to Democrats Running in Midterms: 'Talk About the Economy' [08:22] TR News capitalism https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/16/the-chris-hedges-report-dr-gabor-mate-on-trauma-addiction-and-illness-under-capitalism/ | Source: Scheerpost [08:22] TR Bot Chris Hedges Report: Dr. Gabor Mat on Trauma, Addiction and Illness Under Capitalism - scheerpost.com [08:25] DaemonFC https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/money-report/this-23-year-old-pays-1100-a-month-in-rent-to-live-in-an-apartment-the-size-of-an-average-parking-spot [08:25] TR Bot This 23-Year-Old Pays $1,100 a Month in Rent to Live in an Apartment the Size of an Average Parking Spot NBC Chicago [08:25] DaemonFC They act like stories such as this are cute. [08:25] DaemonFC For $1,100 you should have an apartment that's at least 700 square feet. [08:27] DaemonFC "Man lives in walk-in closet, pays more than a mortgage on a house in Indiana. LOL!" [08:27] DaemonFC But at least he's in New York where all the public masturbators will shove him in front of the train. [08:28] DaemonFC People "get it" there because nobody has time to be transphobic when they have to watch out that the person next to them doesn't shove a knife in their back. [08:28] DaemonFC mjg59_ approves [08:29] *phanes hides mjg59_'s victim whistle [08:32] TR News Automatic Flag Waver https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/automatic-flag-waver-lets-you-show-your-loyalty-without-getting-tired/ | Source: Hackaday [08:32] TR Bot Flag Waver Lets You Show Your Loyalty Without Getting Tired | Hackaday [08:33] TR News Right to Housing https://truthout.org/articles/activists-across-the-country-are-making-the-right-to-housing-a-reality/ | Source: TruthOut [08:33] TR Bot Activists Across the Country Are Making the Right to Housing a Reality [08:33] phanes i kind of get the whole "my girlfriend who is a biological woman and prefers dick in her actual vagina is a man" thing because his masculine identity is completely inverted. i wonder if there's something wrong with his dick. [08:33] TR News Restoring A 1956 Radio https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/everything-you-wanted-to-see-about-restoring-a-1956-radio/ | Source: Hackaday [08:33] TR Bot You Wanted To See About Restoring A 1956 Radio | Hackaday [08:34] TR News "Youd think that now that the 2022 Cyberdeck Contest is wrapped up, wed stop writing about it. Sorry, but no there were so many great entries that we just cant help but keep focusing on them." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/2022-cyberdeck-contest-a-wrist-worn-deck-with-a-hybrid-interface/ | Source: Hackaday [08:34] TR Bot Cyberdeck Contest: A Wrist-Worn Deck With A Hybrid Interface | Hackaday [08:34] DaemonFC "Yes, it's true.....this man has no dick." -Peter Venkman, Ghostbusters (1984) [08:35] phanes either that or he's trying really hard to keep the poly door closed so is just like "ok honey, whatever you say, you're a man" [08:36] TR News "In the world of hardware hacking, you sometimes spend a ridiculous amount of time debugging a problem, only to find a simple solution that was right in front of you the whole time." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/cutting-a-wearable-display-in-half-is-harder-and-simpler-than-it-seems/ | Source: Hackaday [08:36] TR Bot A Wearable Display In Half Is Harder And Simpler Than It Seems | Hackaday [08:37] phanes i still stand by my statement. that is a man in a heterosexual relationship with a woman, and is relying on trans community codices to create potentiality for victimhood to obscure their actual malicious activity of making up lies about people [08:37] TR News "Computers are, after all, frighteningly complex state machines" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/16/fourteen-legged-cell-carries-natures-tiny-computer/ | Source: Hackaday [08:37] TR Bot Cell Carries Natures Tiny Computer | Hackaday [08:39] DaemonFC Now, at the risk of being sorry I asked (or visualized) this, how do you know it's dick/vagina going on in there? Did he make statements to this effect? [08:40] phanes matt garrett is clearly putting his dick in lovecruft's vagina to engage in heterosexual intercourse [08:40] phanes beyond that, "their identities" are just cultural devices [08:42] DaemonFC https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/27/asia/china-zero-covid-policy-intl/index.html [08:42] TR Bot China zero-Covid policy: Censors scrub internet after senior official's speech on timeline for Beijing | CNN [08:42] DaemonFC This "Zero COVID Policy" in China is amusing to watch. [08:42] schestowitz[TR] that causes shortags [08:42] schestowitz[TR] and hurts "the west" [08:42] schestowitz[TR] *shortages [08:42] DaemonFC Mostly because they obviously don't have "Zero COVID" or they wouldn't have to keep locking down regions with 30 million people in them. [08:43] schestowitz[TR] so be amused all you want [08:43] DaemonFC I'm amused. [08:43] phanes i see folks that do shit like that as absolutely horrible because the trans community actually exists and has serious social problems to work out, so, when folks like that come around and start trying to exploit it like some published CVE it detracts from the trans communities' very serious struggles [08:43] DaemonFC The companies that outsourced our jobs there are finally getting their comeuppance. [08:43] schestowitz[TR] yeah [08:43] schestowitz[TR] exactly [08:43] schestowitz[TR] they are also tightly packed [08:43] schestowitz[TR] like workers' bedroom [08:44] schestowitz[TR] 8 or 10 in a room [08:44] schestowitz[TR] like pinoys in singapearan apartments [08:44] schestowitz[TR] it's hard to contain the spread [08:44] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], You noticed that they rush to get out of China and don't come back now. [08:44] schestowitz[TR] when your resisdents live like sardines [08:44] DaemonFC Some jobs go to other Asian countries that at least aren't Communist and hopefully make life there a bit better. [08:44] DaemonFC The Philippines gets some. [08:44] DaemonFC Others come back here. [08:44] phanes the dumb shits who aren't tracking closely enough too, will take anyone highlighting that as "denying that trans people exist" or "denying someone their trans status" when they very clearly are exploiting it to obscure their horrible behaviour using social protections that are foring [08:44] DaemonFC China is hurting itself long term to spite us for a few years. [08:44] phanes *forming [08:45] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: those other countries cannot do high-tech [08:45] DaemonFC Things will settle down and China will be cut off from revenue and explaining to their youth why there's no jobs and a lot of empty cities none of them can live in that are falling apart due to neglect. [08:45] mjg59_ Yeah people habitually have gender-conforming surgery and take hormones to obscure their past [08:45] schestowitz[TR] what jobs aree you thinking of? plastics? [08:46] schestowitz[TR] i read that young chinese are rebelling [08:46] schestowitz[TR] the promise of jobs broken [08:46] DaemonFC mjg59_, Did they grow him a penis in the same lab you escaped from? [08:46] schestowitz[TR] so they want another regime [08:46] mjg59_ Who does "him" refer to? [08:47] DaemonFC so they want another regime [08:47] DaemonFC They're pissed and they have every right to be pissed. [08:47] schestowitz[TR] now I see we're totally on topic :/ [08:47] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I can find articles [08:47] schestowitz[TR] but I just posted a link to the xi speech [08:47] schestowitz[TR] it's complicated [08:47] schestowitz[TR] like, the west tries to ban chinese produycts [08:47] phanes schestowitz[TR], i think it's an important aspect of how this walking turd has gotten away with his lying bullshit for so long [08:47] schestowitz[TR] even if they're on par with western brands [08:48] schestowitz[TR] in terms of quality and functionality [08:48] DaemonFC even if they're on par with western brands [08:48] schestowitz[TR] some are [08:48] DaemonFC Most of them aren't, unless we've lowered the quality standards and outsourced it there. [08:48] schestowitz[TR] of course a lot of the world won't pay attention to nsa and gchq recommendation [08:48] schestowitz[TR] so there will be a FUD campaign [08:48] DaemonFC There are some Chinese car tires that are no worse than the models of Goodyear that they sell for about the same price at Walmart that are also made in China. [08:48] Helenah Erm... [08:49] Helenah phanes, schestowitz[TR], What are you both talking about? :3 [08:49] schestowitz[TR] it's like the milk and cow... now china has its own cows [08:49] schestowitz[TR] they bred cows [08:49] schestowitz[TR] and can make decent products [08:49] schestowitz[TR] so we tell people their cows make poison or something.. [08:49] mjg59_ Helenah: Phanes is talking about how my partner isn't actually trans despite having had surgery and taking hormones [08:49] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Name brand tires don't mean anything because the executives here were stupid enough to send production there. [08:49] DaemonFC Lower their standards, and bring in shitty tires. [08:49] schestowitz[TR] "don't drink their milk" [08:49] DaemonFC So the Chinese flood the market with their own "brands" and now the American companies have no pitch. [08:50] phanes Helenah, in short, mjg59_ has like 10 years of history of making up horrible lies about people, and has over thge years taken refuge in the trans community to try to posture as victims from anyone calling it out. no such confirmation surgery has taken place. [08:50] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: this won't end well [08:50] Helenah mjg59_: That's not what I saw when reading the scrollback... [08:50] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Probably not. [08:50] DaemonFC I won't buy anything except the cheapest tires anymore. [08:51] schestowitz[TR] either way, I read from XRevan86 that Liz Trump might be out soon [08:51] mjg59_ Helenah: https://twitter.com/isislovecruft/status/1144313465189744640 [08:51] TR Bot i look a wreck but at least im having surgery shortly https://t.co/rq4k7O6KCV [08:51] TR Bot i look a wreck but at least im having surgery shortly https://t.co/rq4k7O6KCV [08:51] phanes he is a man, who lies about people, who is engaged to a woman, who lies about people, and has heterosexual sex with said woman using conventional parts, and will hide behind transphobia labels to anyone calling out his or her history [08:51] schestowitz[TR] that'll be fastest ever [08:51] schestowitz[TR] in brtiish history [08:51] DaemonFC I actually bought a set of generic car tires from Pep Boys in 2019, put 40,000 miles on them, which is what they were rated for, and they still had 80% of the tread life on them when I gave the car back to mom. [08:51] mjg59_ Oh yeah no argument that I'm a man [08:51] mjg59_ But my partner isn't a woman [08:52] DaemonFC Around these parts, I wouldn't run them below 30%, personally, especially in the run up to winter. [08:52] mjg59_ And phanes is currently lying about them not having had surgery [08:52] DaemonFC But that's actually, better than I was expecting for what I paid. [08:52] mjg59_ Which is ironic, given his assertion that I'm a habitual liar [08:52] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: I can still use my 90s applicance [08:52] schestowitz[TR] they might even last another 20 years [08:52] schestowitz[TR] i don't need china for my food [08:53] phanes yeah, i don't buy it. it would feed perfectly into both of your MOs to have all of that just be attention-seeking drama. [08:53] DaemonFC I try to buy as little as possible anyway. [08:53] schestowitz[TR] because cars became "smart" many are now partly made in china [08:53] schestowitz[TR] not even asembled here [08:53] schestowitz[TR] and no chinese brands [08:53] mjg59_ phanes: You've been told that your claim is untrue, but you continue to make it anyway [08:53] DaemonFC It's like, why go looking to spend money? Sooner or later some disaster will happen and you'll spend a lot more than you care to then. [08:53] mjg59_ phanes: So, uh, is this you engaging in defamation? [08:53] schestowitz[TR] we hardly have facilities and knowledge to make them here [08:54] schestowitz[TR] no graduates to do it, not for these salaries anyway [08:54] DaemonFC Matt GULAG's employer says it may last another year. [08:54] DaemonFC He's got a $3 million mortgage. [08:54] mjg59_ (I don't) [08:54] schestowitz[TR] so the west is trying to 'partition' china with taiwan [08:54] DaemonFC And the jobs outlook in the Bay Area isn't great. [08:54] schestowitz[TR] twaiwan uses imported cheap labour too [08:54] mjg59_ (Job situation is actually just fine for people with my skillset) [08:54] DaemonFC Sure Matt. [08:54] phanes mjg59_, go ahead and rack up those lawyers if you think it's defamation [08:54] schestowitz[TR] It's like, why go looking to spend money? Sooner or later some disaster will happen and you'll spend a lot more than you care to then. [08:54] DaemonFC Total blood bath out there. [08:55] schestowitz[TR] I was walking by a car shop yesterday [08:55] DaemonFC Go looking when there's thousands more like you that need one too. [08:55] phanes i know you won't because you absolutely are aware of what happens when you do [08:55] schestowitz[TR] and thought, how much does a modern car cost now? [08:55] schestowitz[TR] 50k yet? [08:55] schestowitz[TR] the pound is depreciated and the car parts suffer shortages [08:55] schestowitz[TR] 50k for a "decent" one? [08:55] DaemonFC and thought, how much does a modern car cost now? [08:55] DaemonFC 50k yet? [08:55] mjg59_ phanes: Yeah uh didn't you claim I defamed you? Didn't you claim you were going to send me a certified letter? Did you actually end up doing so or engaging in any other legal action against me? [08:55] DaemonFC Dollars? For a decent one? [08:55] schestowitz[TR] and theen 5 a year for maintenance? [08:55] DaemonFC You have trouble buying a Buick for under $60,000 now. [08:55] DaemonFC And that's the entry level model. [08:55] schestowitz[TR] wow [08:56] Helenah phanes: Whose a man? I'm confused. [08:56] mjg59_ phanes: If the definition of "Engaged in defamation" is "Getting sued", then I have clearly never engaged in defamation [08:56] schestowitz[TR] I remember when they sold preowned mercedes for 10k [08:56] Helenah mjg59_ is a man or lovecruft? [08:56] schestowitz[TR] looking like new [08:56] mjg59_ Helenah: I'm a man. He asserts that my partner is a woman, which they aren't. [08:56] phanes mjg59_, look, im just saying, you're a habitual liar, who is engaged to a habitual liar (that has also been caught, like you, multiple times) and that the entire gender thing feeds into you mo to such a degree that the entire configuration is questionable at best [08:56] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: doesn't matter, back to tech stuff [08:56] Helenah I'm confused [08:56] Helenah So are they are woman or aren't they? [08:56] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Yeah [08:56] mjg59_ phanes: If that's what you need to justify telling lies about my partner to yourself, go for it [08:56] Helenah agreed [08:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Unless you have $60,000 plus tax and interest to buy one, don't even bother the nice salesman. [08:56] Helenah this is driving my head insane [08:56] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: and of course many sold them due to cost of maintenance [08:56] mjg59_ Helenah: No, they're not a woman [08:56] DaemonFC Just move along now, get. [08:57] schestowitz[TR] german cars are expensive to repair [08:57] phanes mjg59_, i dont give a fuck about your feelings at this point [08:57] schestowitz[TR] but those cars are 90% status symbol [08:57] mjg59_ phanes: Where do my feelings enter into this? [08:57] Helenah mjg59_: Idk what they are though. [08:57] phanes you have ruined any good faith available to you [08:57] Helenah I'm just confused... [08:57] mjg59_ Helenah: They're non-binary [08:57] Helenah Okies [08:57] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Well, the Buick division is still higher than average for quality control. [08:57] DaemonFC But the market as a whole has sunk. [08:57] schestowitz[TR] yes, but [08:57] DaemonFC So really, it won't be that reliable in several years. [08:57] mjg59_ Helenah: And have had surgery to that effect, and take hormones to that effect [08:57] schestowitz[TR] that costs you more than linearly more [08:58] mjg59_ Helenah: But phanes continues to misgender them, despite having been told this [08:58] schestowitz[TR] car twice as good, 4 times the price [08:58] phanes biological woman has sexual monogomous relationship with man, may or may not have had surgery, continues to have same with same man, it's kind of obvious what's going on there and all of it is DSM-registered [08:58] DaemonFC Yeah, so people buy a cheap KIA for $25,000 and run it til the wheels fall off, schestowitz[TR] [08:58] schestowitz[TR] some old clunker has many issues, but you can pay for it [08:58] Helenah mjg59_: So why are they using the term "transphobic" if they're non-binary? Transphobia applies to transgender people, not non-binary people, not cisgender people, not sexualities. [08:58] schestowitz[TR] and it impresses nobody [08:58] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Mine still looks okay. [08:59] DaemonFC It's had some mechanical issues I've been having the shop work through, but it's behaving now. [08:59] mjg59_ Helenah: Someone who is assigned a binary gender at birth but is in fact non-binary is trans [08:59] DaemonFC Man, that braking system was a complete mess. [08:59] Helenah But you said they're not trans... o.O [08:59] phanes lol [08:59] mjg59_ Helenah: I didn't say they're not trans? [08:59] Helenah This gender stuff confuses me... :D [08:59] schestowitz[TR] the us made it hard not to owna car [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 182.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 88.61 [08:59] Helenah You said they're not a woman... [08:59] phanes it is literally a victimhood blanket to deny anything resembling accountability or vulnerability [08:59] schestowitz[TR] it's hard to get places... city planning and public transport [08:59] Helenah and that they're non-binary... [08:59] Helenah and how you argue they're trans... [08:59] Helenah make up your mind! [08:59] Helenah :/ [08:59] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I only live 40 miles north of downtown Chicago. [08:59] mjg59_ Helenah: I mean when someone has literally had surgery to ensure their body conforms to their gender, that's pretty clear evidence of being trans ● Oct 17 [09:00] DaemonFC And the bus comes once an hour. [09:00] DaemonFC 7 AM to 11 PM. [09:00] schestowitz[TR] chicago, the most envious city :-) [09:00] DaemonFC Half that on Sundays, and stops at 6 PM! [09:00] schestowitz[TR] but I mean, for groceries and stuff [09:00] DaemonFC You can't depend on PACE buses for shit. [09:00] reptilian_thrills i admit this is confusing. afaik nonbinary overlaps with trans, i have no qualms there [09:00] DaemonFC But Metra is different. [09:00] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Can we talk about tech? This gender stuff is... idk... lol it's a damn burning ring of fire... [09:00] schestowitz[TR] I recentyly started buying food at a shop around the corner from us [09:00] DaemonFC They'll get you to the city and back. If you commute into Chicago, they're fine. [09:00] schestowitz[TR] found the time to find good deals there [09:01] Helenah Sparks arguments it seems... :( [09:01] reptilian_thrills ive never heard of nonbinary surgery, but either way my definition of trans doesnt require surgery, im not a transmedicalist [09:01] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: we're talking about cars [09:01] schestowitz[TR] the rest are two men fighting [09:01] schestowitz[TR] and not for the first time [09:01] reptilian_thrills well mjg is one of the most confrontational people ive ever met [09:01] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I don't live in a super convenient place in town. [09:01] DaemonFC The rent is lower than average. [09:01] reptilian_thrills though despite that hes not being impolite [09:01] phanes if there weren't social stigmas for criticism around it, it wouldn't even be a factor in his dynamic [09:01] Helenah I'm cisgender and my own definition of transgender is it doesn't require surgery or hormones, reptilian_thrills. [09:01] schestowitz[TR] you can make up rent difference with walking and taxi [09:02] schestowitz[TR] as long aas you: [09:02] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I like the Mazda MX5 :3 [09:02] reptilian_thrills i wasnt implying anything [09:02] reptilian_thrills about your position [09:02] schestowitz[TR] 1) live close to work [09:02] schestowitz[TR] 2) work from home [09:02] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I never said you were... [09:02] phanes it'd be a gay black woman if that made his crowd sympathetic [09:02] reptilian_thrills :( [09:02] Helenah I'm more agreeing with your definition... [09:02] reptilian_thrills :) [09:02] schestowitz[TR] communiting to work is the most annnoying thing, and they don't even pay you for it [09:02] reptilian_thrills :( <- 6th finger [09:02] schestowitz[TR] all this communiting to get to a desk you don't like, surrounded by people who dopn't like you much [09:02] reptilian_thrills ... [09:03] reptilian_thrills i never said you said i ever was :D [09:03] mjg59_ My workmates liked me just fine [09:03] mjg59_ Maybe Roy's just hard to like [09:03] reptilian_thrills they wouldnt dare not like you :) [09:03] phanes except the ones you've lied about mjg59_ [09:03] phanes those ones do not like you just fine [09:03] schestowitz[TR] was not talking about myself at all [09:03] phanes that you've found refuge in a den of sociopaths and narcissists is not boon [09:03] mjg59_ phanes: You literally just lied about my partner [09:03] Helenah Oh boy... [09:04] schestowitz[TR] never worked in an office where I'm employed [09:04] reptilian_thrills roy is... roy [09:04] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I'm sorry, I'm not talking about cars now... too difficult with all this. lol [09:04] Helenah Most of the conversation in here is gender politics... [09:04] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: we have this "theory" about people who dislike techrights trying to saturate the channel with nonsense [09:04] Helenah Why can't people just be themselves?! [09:04] reptilian_thrills theres a couple reasons for that [09:04] schestowitz[TR] we recwently got rudely named accounts here [09:04] reptilian_thrills maybe 3 reasons [09:04] phanes mjg59_, no, one is calling out horse shit, and the other, what you do, is systematically lie about people in a context that will lynch them through vulnerable communities, and you need to destroy yourself over it [09:04] schestowitz[TR] and saying the n***** word [09:04] reptilian_thrills one reason, to be sure, is that mjg is here [09:05] schestowitz[TR] which is strange as we're a private irc network [09:05] reptilian_thrills that cant be ruled out [09:05] schestowitz[TR] and those accounts had nothing of value to add [09:05] mjg59_ Helenah: They absolutely should be allowed to be themselves, but part of being themselves is not having other people misgender them [09:05] reptilian_thrills another reason is that roy overreacts to the topic so much that people troll him for it [09:05] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: With phanes it's something different, he's openly admitted to requiring justice and that's what he's doing, he feels he needs justice with mjg59_. [09:05] Helenah Isn't that right, phanes? [09:05] Helenah So as long as mjg59_ doesn't give it, phanes will continue day after day with him... [09:05] *phanes nods [09:05] reptilian_thrills and a third is that loads of trans and non-binary people chat here either way [09:06] reptilian_thrills so it keeps coming up [09:06] phanes it will indeed never end and escalate to nosebleed levels in an adaptive manner that will eventually outpace his ability to hide behind vulnerable communities [09:06] mjg59_ phanes: Just to be clear, you asserted that my partner did not receive gender-confirmation surgery? [09:06] reptilian_thrills mjg of course is the reason roy overreacts [09:06] schestowitz[TR] baib [09:06] schestowitz[TR] *biab [09:06] reptilian_thrills but that doesnt mean he doesnt overreact [09:07] reptilian_thrills mjg: this is the only tech issue <- not his actual position [09:07] phanes mjg59_, i was not and am not still, under the belief that said confirmation surgery has taken place, and honestly I doubt that it isn't some PR stunt to draw a blanket from the trans community for your systematic abuse of your peers [09:07] Helenah phanes: Thing is, does this process need to be performed in front of everybody else? [09:07] reptilian_thrills roy: this is not a tech issue! <- missing the point entirely [09:07] mjg59_ phanes: If you were to be provided with evidence that said surgery had taken place, would this mean that you had been lying? [09:07] phanes mjg59_, no it would just complicate my assertion tbh [09:08] reptilian_thrills everyone else: something about ukraine <- i dont blame them [09:08] Helenah Like... can the process not be performed within a PM? [09:08] reptilian_thrills no, pm is totally rude, its better to have a flamewar in public [09:08] mjg59_ phanes: Ok! That's super helpful - so are there situations in which you can make an assertion that could potentially damage someone, but do so under the belief that what you're saying is true? [09:09] phanes mjg59_, what i would prefer instead of gory surgery documentation is that you focus on your own behaviour that has stirred said ire [09:09] reptilian_thrills this is a LOCAL channel for LOCAL people, well have no trouble here! [09:09] phanes mjg59_, you can try to hide behind victim labels but it won't do you any good [09:10] mjg59_ phanes: Because it feels like what you're saying right now is that if you say something that you believe to be true, then even if it turns out it isn't, it's not a lie [09:10] mjg59_ phanes: And if it's not a lie then by definition it's not defamatory [09:10] phanes mjg59_, right, as it turns out, words mean things even if you don't want them to [09:11] mjg59_ phanes: Literally everything you've mentioned about me on your website is something I absolutely believe to be true [09:11] phanes you're like 10 years too early to try to bend truth definitions with someone like me [09:11] phanes they are lies [09:11] phanes they are deliberately lies [09:11] mjg59_ Well, no, they're not lies [09:11] phanes they are lies crafted with a broader purpose [09:11] mjg59_ You might argue that they're untrue [09:11] Helenah I feel like you are trying to embarress and shame mjg59_ and fair enough, there's a reason to continue the argument in this channel BUT... BIG BUT.... other people can not talk tech as you are hogging smaller tech conversations with bigger arguments... [09:11] Helenah mjg59_: ^ [09:11] Helenah phanes: ^ [09:11] mjg59_ But for them to be lies, I'd need to be knowingly expressing something untrue [09:12] phanes whatever purpose you are chasing with those lies, mjg59_, may be something you believe to be nobler pursuits than plain truth, but they are lies when you say them, and you know they are lies when you say them. [09:12] mjg59_ And you asserting that I'm lying is, in fact, untrue [09:12] mjg59_ There's room to argue about whether what I said is true or not! [09:12] Helenah Are you guys going to answer me? One thing I do NOT like is being blatantly ignored, I do NOT appreciate it, and I find it rather rude! [09:12] phanes nah that's just the chickenshit copout you've constructed trying to springboard off a technicality about your partner's surgically altered genitals [09:12] mjg59_ But I would need to *know* it wasn't true for it to be a lie [09:13] phanes you do know they aren't true [09:13] mjg59_ Helenah: I'll stop discussing it in this channel once phanes stops misgendering my partner [09:13] reptilian_thrills what is the question? im reading the channel but i dont know what the question is [09:13] phanes and you did when you said those things [09:13] mjg59_ phanes: Yeah uh good luck proving that given I believed them to be true when I said them (and, in fact, still believe them to be true) [09:13] phanes i dont need to prove it, i just need to believe it [09:14] mjg59_ Oh! So believing something to be true *is* sufficient? [09:14] mjg59_ That's cool [09:14] mjg59_ We can both say that what we're expressing is what we believe to be true [09:14] phanes only when that belief is real instead of some fabrication you've constructed to avoid accountability [09:14] phanes no [09:14] phanes what you do is not what you believe is real [09:14] Helenah mjg59_: That's flawed, because phanes misgenders your partner, you feel it's right to disrupt everyone else. That's like destroying peoples lives in a "Black Lives Matter" protest because the Government is racist... [09:14] phanes what you do is plan out entire strategies for telling lies about peopel that sometimes destroys them [09:15] mjg59_ Helenah: Roy can moderate his channel as he pleases [09:15] phanes you don't do it in some pursuit of justice, you do it because you're a shit human being [09:15] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi [09:15] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [09:15] phanes you'll never have that on me [09:15] mjg59_ phanes: Who have I destroyed? [09:15] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [09:15] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [09:15] phanes you would have to change both of our internal experiences to have that on me [09:15] phanes you can't be me [09:15] TR News (NEW): Devices: Phones, Tablets, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Devices_Phones_Tablets_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Devices_Phones_Tablets_and_More.gmi [09:15] TR Bot Tux Machines Devices: Phones, Tablets, and More [09:16] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi [09:16] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [09:16] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Seems like while you at the same time lay down laws, you still allow #techrights to be turned into #politics [09:16] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: It's actually not a fair thing to do. [09:16] Helenah I was told to move on from my topic yesterday. [09:16] schestowitz[TR] I don't "allow" [09:16] Helenah And today? This gets allowed to happen. [09:17] schestowitz[TR] I don't ban [09:17] schestowitz[TR] did you see me back anyone? [09:17] Helenah But you ARE allowing it otherwise you'd do something about it... [09:17] Helenah I didn't say the solution was a ban... [09:17] schestowitz[TR] or ban anyone? [09:17] schestowitz[TR] I meant ban [09:17] mjg59_ Yeah he allows all the transphobia and racism too [09:17] schestowitz[TR] but did not concentrate [09:17] Helenah Infact ban as first resort is bad... [09:17] reptilian_thrills I was told to move on from my topic yesterday. And today? This gets allowed to happen. <- this channel runs on whims and double standards [09:17] schestowitz[TR] I just want to focus on articles, not all these hissy fits [09:17] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I see. [09:17] phanes there's no transphobia happening here, that's just matt blowing a whistle because he's found himself in a moral corner [09:17] mjg59_ phanes: You just asserted that I'd destroyed people, so you should be able to name them [09:18] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: yesyerday you debated age of consent [09:18] phanes mjg59_, https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/ [09:18] TR Bot Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew [09:18] schestowitz[TR] it's a very toxic topic that trolls later use to discredit [09:18] schestowitz[TR] and I said [09:18] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Yet your kind words aren't solving these hissy fits... maybe set the channel +m and lay down some stuff to say, make people listen. [09:18] schestowitz[TR] you had said so yourself [09:18] mjg59_ phanes: Which of those people has been destroyed? [09:18] schestowitz[TR] about how people accuse of rape and pedophilia [09:18] schestowitz[TR] biab [09:18] reptilian_thrills as [09:18] schestowitz[TR] I need to do daily links [09:18] reptilian_thrills as [09:18] reptilian_thrills as [09:18] reptilian_thrills as [09:18] Helenah reptilian_thrills: I agree, this is double standards. [09:19] reptilian_thrills oops [09:19] reptilian_thrills not intentional [09:19] reptilian_thrills funny but not intentional [09:19] mjg59_ phanes: Are you claiming that me calling Kevin Kofler a dick destroyed him? [09:19] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: You realise how exhausting my decency is? I could've ignored you yesterday and continued on my topic but I took the exhausting route of moving on from that topic and having to deal with double standards of other people left to continue on their trajectory. [09:20] phanes mjg59_, ive already clarified on that entry many times. are you incapable of ingesting that information or are you lying about that too? [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: no, I did ry to change ther subjkect [09:20] schestowitz[TR] talked about cars and tech [09:20] schestowitz[TR] and china supply chain shortages [09:20] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I had to say it, I had to bring my "decency" into this, I clearly am a minority here. [09:20] reptilian_thrills came for the tech, stayed for the gender pronoun wars [09:20] mjg59_ phanes: Can you point to the clarifications? Are they in the room now? [09:21] reptilian_thrills i think gender pronouns are important of course [09:21] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Yep I really joined here for the tech... [09:21] phanes mjg59_, moreso, who is your audience? do you think you'll convince me somehow to forget the explanation I provided on that entry, or is this a continuation of some influence effort to dispel someone holding you accountable for your decades of malicious behaviour towards your peers? [09:21] Helenah After joining, the impression was multi-topic... [09:21] reptilian_thrills its multi-topic [09:21] mjg59_ phanes: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2022-07-08/ literally contains no explanation [09:21] TR Bot TAODB [09:21] Helenah And then I get told it's about tech... how confusing is that? [09:21] reptilian_thrills not confusing at all, once you realise how it works [09:21] mjg59_ Helenah: Yeah Roy just makes shit up [09:21] mjg59_ Helenah: There is no topic here [09:21] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I really like you but this one aspect "how you deal with the channel", I do not like about you. [09:21] schestowitz[TR] we're leaving the home soon, I want to finish Daily Links [09:22] schestowitz[TR] and this channel becoming about sex organs is not help;ing [09:22] schestowitz[TR] because later people whose bad deeds are exposed point to IRC [09:22] Helenah You might as well let me talk about whatever I want because I am going to fall into a trap of doing it, you know? [09:22] schestowitz[TR] and say, l;ook! my corruption is not real... because this site had this intolerant chat thing [09:22] Helenah You are promoting the behaviour, it will rub off on everyone else. [09:22] Helenah and it has rubbed off on everyone else. [09:22] Helenah It's clear as day. [09:22] Helenah You can't deny it. [09:22] phanes schestowitz[TR], don't point to the traps [09:22] mjg59_ Urgh this idea that discussion of gender is bad, rather than the idea that toleration of transphobia is bad [09:23] schestowitz[TR] techrights does not cover this [09:23] schestowitz[TR] it's as remote as posssible fro tech [09:23] schestowitz[TR] *from [09:23] mjg59_ Roy objects to discussion of certain topics because it results in certain channel regulars exhibiting amazing levels of intolerance [09:23] phanes transphobia is any conversation you don't like that involves transgender identities [09:23] phanes so gfy [09:23] reptilian_thrills roy is particularly sensisitive to the discussion of trans issues because he thinks mjg is here in bad faith [09:23] Helenah Oh so today it's as remote as possible from tech but yesterday you asked me to speak of tech. [09:23] schestowitz[TR] reptilian_thrills: THINNKS? [09:24] mjg59_ He won't actually do anything about those people, he'll just ask that the topic not be discussed because otherwise he'd look bad [09:24] reptilian_thrills i WOULD assume mjg is here in bad faith, except roy gives him great reasons to be here [09:24] schestowitz[TR] he sends me threatening letters [09:24] mjg59_ Yeah you did actually repeatedly lie about me in ways that I had to report to my employers [09:24] Helenah reptilian_thrills: Yep I questioned why I had to move off my topic yesterday suspecting a hidden agenda based on previous conversation and I got my answers. [09:24] TR News Links 17/10/2022: Linux 6.1 RC1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/linux-6-1-rc1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/linux-6-1-rc1/ [09:24] TR Bot Links 17/10/2022: Linux 6.1 RC1 | Techrights [09:24] Helenah Indeed they didn't say to me what they actually think. [09:24] Helenah :/ [09:24] Helenah Such dishonesty. [09:25] schestowitz[TR] stratetgic ass-covering does not make SLAPP OK [09:25] reptilian_thrills my parsers giving me warnings about possible sarcasm and im having trouble figuring out which parts are negating others [09:25] schestowitz[TR] anyway, I'll be posting on topic [09:25] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Who are you referring to? [09:25] schestowitz[TR] if people want to follow, fine [09:25] reptilian_thrills either way i said the other day, you have to be columbo to make sense of this place [09:25] phanes mjg59_, if you have to warn your employers about multiple people very determined to expose your bad behaviour then consider the possibility that your perspective on your bad behaviour is not in alignment with reality and that you need to seek therapy to address whatever is causing you to harm people in the actions being exposed [09:25] schestowitz[TR] don't want to police topics [09:25] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: Look, I already said, I can't follow because the tech conversations are smaller than the damn arguments... [09:26] schestowitz[TR] Helenah: mjg59_ sent me and my wife threatening letters [09:26] reptilian_thrills as long as pure chaos works, this place is alright [09:26] mjg59_ I sent nothing to his wife [09:26] schestowitz[TR] and it was NOT about tech [09:26] schestowitz[TR] you did [09:26] phanes schestowitz[TR], he sent your wife letters? why? i did not hear about this [09:26] mjg59_ I didn't? [09:26] mjg59_ To the best of my knowledge it was addressed to you [09:26] reptilian_thrills I sent nothing to his wife <- when roy was making shit up about me, he started adding little random bits and pieces like pull requests [09:26] mjg59_ If it was addressed to your wife then I apologise, that was not what I instructed [09:26] Helenah schestowitz[TR]: I'm going to say no more, it's best to let things marinate sometimes but I do hope it clicks. [09:26] reptilian_thrills it was like improv [09:27] TR News IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 16, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/irc-log-161022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/irc-log-161022/ [09:27] mjg59_ And I will bring that up with my lawyer [09:27] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 16, 2022 | Techrights [09:27] mjg59_ I had zero intention of involving her with the issue [09:27] reptilian_thrills like first i said/did x but that was bullshit [09:27] reptilian_thrills then it was x and y but y was also bullshit [09:27] reptilian_thrills but they were sort of vaguely connected [09:27] reptilian_thrills and that would be repeated now and again [09:27] TR News Going Linux #431 Welcome to Linux! Pt5 - Adding Software to Ubuntu Mate https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp431 [09:27] TR Bot Going Linux Shownotes [09:28] reptilian_thrills but each generation would be a little more elaborate and have new details (which were fabrications) [09:28] phanes only a shit human being would target someone's family though [09:28] mjg59_ phanes: Yeah, which is why I didn't [09:28] phanes and then write it off as not knowing about it too, ive seen this so many times [09:28] schestowitz[TR] to be clear, my wife is A LOT more angry at mjg59_ than I am [09:28] phanes you are such a piece of garbage, ive seen no evidence that you shouldn't just completely destroy yourself [09:28] TR News Cowsay - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ATgip7yzisA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ATgip7yzisA [09:28] TR Bot Cowsay - Invidious [09:29] TR News As The Web Grows Bigger, It Seems Smaller - Invidious

Read on [09:29] TR Bot As The Web Grows Bigger, It Seems Smaller - Invidious [09:29] phanes every single person calling you out on it is "deluded" and "misunderstanding the techniciality" that you aren't just a regular, run of the mill piece of shit that too many people listen to [09:29] TR News "Linus Tech Tips blows it again, and we clean up. Plus, we push System76's updated Thelio Workstation to the breaking point." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8931 [09:30] phanes so do us all a favor and just end all of this -- both for the people you've hurt and for the people you will inevitably hurt if you are allowed to continue [09:30] mjg59_ phanes: Man you know there was a point where I felt like maybe you were going to find some fundamental part of my personality I was unaware of that would actually reveal I was awful, but instead the more time you spend on this the more it turns out you're just an idiot [09:31] phanes an idiot that has run circles around you every step of this journey [09:31] phanes you can't outclass me [09:31] phanes you keep trying [09:31] phanes you keep failing [09:31] phanes you'll never win that [09:31] phanes but what you can do is grow [09:31] mjg59_ Dude I actually just don't care [09:31] phanes and if you can't grow i have plenty of options for you to explore [09:32] phanes mjg59_, that's kind of the problem [09:32] TR News (NEW): Videos/Shows: Web, Cowsay, Going Linux, and Linux Unplugged http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Videos_Shows_Web_Cowsay_Going_Linux_and_Linux_Unplugged.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Videos_Shows_Web_Cowsay_Going_Linux_and_Linux_Unplugged.gmi [09:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Web, Cowsay, Going Linux, and Linux Unplugged [09:32] mjg59_ Every time you communicate with me you end up providing more evidence for people to discount your position [09:32] phanes you see, normal people, when they spend decades hurting people and start getting called out on it by multiple people tracking it, actually feel something [09:32] phanes you don't care -- and that says more than i could ever [09:32] mjg59_ Can you point to the "multiple people" [09:33] phanes mjg59_, this isn't a courtroom. those people are documented in the site you are exposed and tracked on, and some others are here [09:34] TR News 20 Linux egrep Command Examples https://www.tecmint.com/egrep-command-examples/ [09:34] TR Bot 20 Useful egrep Command Examples in Linux [09:34] mjg59_ Ok noted that you're making unsupported assertions there [09:34] phanes you can pretend not to be aware of that, like you have done repeatedly in this process, but no one tracking these dialogs will not take away that you are deliberately pretending not to notice [09:34] TR News Filipe Rosset: Fedora rawhide fixed bugs 2022/09 https://ro7bit.wordpress.com/2022/10/16/fedora-rawhide-fixed-bugs-2022-09/ [09:34] TR Bot Fedora rawhide fixed bugs 2022/09 ::: ro7bit ::: [09:34] *psydruid has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [09:34] mjg59_ Most people grow out of "I'm winning because I say I'm winning" by the time they're a teenager [09:34] mjg59_ But you're 37? [09:35] mjg59_ Show me some external metrics that show you're winning and I'll care [09:35] phanes that's an assertion you made on my behalf [09:35] phanes something you keep doing, by the way [09:35] phanes like [09:35] phanes if you can't get me to say something [09:35] TR News Lack of disclosure. ICBM pays this site for all these puff pieces. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/17/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-24-number-42/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/17/some-power-systems-hardware-tweaks/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/17/in-the-ibm-i-trenches-with-cloudfirst/ [09:35] TR Bot IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 24, Number 42 - IT Jungle [09:35] TR Bot Some Power Systems Hardware Tweaks - IT Jungle [09:35] TR Bot In The IBM i Trenches With: CloudFirst - IT Jungle [09:35] phanes you'll just lie on my behalf and say it for me [09:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [09:36] mjg59_ Show me some external metrics that show you're winning and I'll care [09:36] phanes im not convinced that your personality disorder will allow you to care [09:36] mjg59_ Everyone I currently care about has been shown your website and Roy's assertions and has let me know they don't care [09:37] MinceR 17 095925 < schestowitz[TR]> the us made it hard not to owna car [09:37] MinceR so did orbanistan [09:37] phanes mjg59_, that shouldn't even be a factor [09:37] phanes that it is for you shows you're just profoundly missing the point to the height of demonstrating a fundamental flaw in your perception [09:38] mjg59_ Ok [09:38] mjg59_ So, let's check back in a year, and if anything bad has happened to me as a result of your work, I'll admit you win [09:38] phanes it shouldn't matter if the people close to you care -- it should matter whether you are doing the right things or not -- and this is clearly not part of your framework [09:38] mjg59_ Cool? [09:39] phanes ^ this demonstrates everything i've been saying [09:39] MinceR Are We Cool Yet? [09:39] mjg59_ See the thing you fundamentally fail to understand, perhaps because you have some sort of empathy disorder, is that I obviously don't believe that I've done any wrong things [09:39] mjg59_ And you have made zero effort to convince me of the wrongness of anything I've done [09:39] mjg59_ Because you see it as a fundamental truth [09:39] phanes mjg59_, its not a lack of empathy on that part -- i agree that you don't believe you did anything wrong because you have NPD and will rewrite history to moralize yourself [09:39] mjg59_ Because, well, I have actually no fucking idea it's pretty weird [09:40] reptilian_thrills See the thing you fundamentally fail to understand, perhaps because you have some sort of empathy disorder, is that I obviously don't believe that I've done any wrong things [09:40] reptilian_thrills RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded [09:40] phanes mjg59_, things like this work themselves out, and, from what i can tell, it already is [09:40] mjg59_ Cool! Then in a year it should have worked itself out, right? [09:40] phanes you misunderstand my goal. it's not purely to get you to admit wrongdoing. [09:40] phanes although that would be the best course [09:41] phanes i have dealt with many people with your disorder [09:41] reptilian_thrills RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded <- agree with the pot that the kettle is black however [09:41] phanes i have reasonable outcome expecations [09:41] phanes *expectations [09:42] phanes you do not have to see it for it to happen [09:43] phanes you have a blind spot [09:43] mjg59_ Can you define what you successfully outing me as a defamer looks like for my personal or professional life [09:43] phanes Well sure I can. [09:44] reptilian_thrills looks like for my personal or professional life <- i can. it looks like nothing at all [09:44] reptilian_thrills the people you work for are sympathetic to you [09:44] reptilian_thrills and your actions [09:44] reptilian_thrills maybe not all the time, but with regards to this [09:44] reptilian_thrills or they dont care at all [09:44] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: Eh if I wanted a new job it might have impact [09:44] phanes he's focused on population subset B, don't get him thinking too much about it [09:44] reptilian_thrills perhaps [09:44] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: So that would be a potentially measurable metric [09:44] reptilian_thrills idk im pretty cynical at this point [09:45] reptilian_thrills So that would be a potentially measurable metric <- otoh perhaps youre exaggerating this for devils advocate [09:45] reptilian_thrills idk [09:45] phanes he's slithering around for a potential external redress that he doesn't know will backfire spectacularly on him yet [09:46] mjg59_ phanes: In what period of time do you expect it to backfire spectacularly? [09:46] phanes mjg59_, in what period of time will you be writing those letters? [09:46] TR News (NEW): Void Linux New Images! (October 2022 Edition) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Void_Linux_New_Images_October_2022_Edition.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Void_Linux_New_Images_October_2022_Edition.gmi [09:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Void Linux New Images! (October 2022 Edition) [09:46] phanes a hornlock of wills will not suit you here [09:47] phanes you'll have to either cheat or grow [09:47] phanes demonstrate your character [09:47] mjg59_ phanes: If I say that I'm never writing those letters, does that mean it'll never backfire spectacularly? [09:47] mjg59_ Or does that mean it'll happen earlier? [09:48] mjg59_ Just give me a date range [09:48] phanes mjg59_, nah [09:48] mjg59_ Coward [09:48] TR News Youre invited to the Fedora Linux 37 Release Party! https://fedoramagazine.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-37-release-party/ [09:48] TR Bot Youre invited to the Fedora Linux 37 Release Party! - Fedora Magazine [09:49] phanes i will say this, though. im locked on for a long, long time. consider cutting off that ankle. [09:49] mjg59_ I am 100% ok with you devoting your life to ineffectually bringing me down and, as a result, spending less time harassing other people [09:49] phanes i dont need to bring you down [09:49] phanes you've already done that to yourself [09:50] mjg59_ Yeah reality disagrees [09:50] TR News Drowning in BUZZWORDSOPS ttps://opensource.com/article/22/10/open-source-devops-tools https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/17/if-you-arent-automating-testing-you-arent-doing-devsecops/ Red Hat: staff flees, let's distract from substance [09:50] TR Bot If You Arent Automating Testing, You Arent Doing DevSecOps - IT Jungle [09:50] phanes oof. man i do not want to be in the room when you realize where you're really at these days. [09:51] mjg59_ Where am I really? [09:51] mjg59_ Again, this seems like an opportunity for you to provide a measureable metric [09:51] phanes you are in a circle of people with the same moral defect, an echo chamber that lies about people, and everyone outside of it, which constitutes all of your remaining available opportunity, knows what you are and are associated with [09:51] schestowitz[TR] bbl, got to carry 25kg of coins :-) [09:52] mjg59_ Uh-huh. [09:52] mjg59_ That circle of people is the set of people who want to employ me and the set of people who want to spend social time with me? [09:53] phanes i on the other hand can literally walk to the lobby of any gathering and immediately find opportunity because i have the skillsets you pretend to have and the trust you pretend to have [09:53] phanes no [09:53] phanes you're fried already [09:53] mjg59_ Cool, get a job with my employer [09:53] MinceR https://apina.biz/191701.jpg?mode=sfw [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191701.jpg [09:53] phanes that's got nothing to do with me [09:53] phanes you can "make a living" at this point, but your shine is long faded [09:53] MinceR he had shine? [09:54] phanes you spent it on people like ted, me, and some others [09:54] mjg59_ Ok! So, if I make more money in future, does that mean you were wrong? [09:54] phanes no [09:54] mjg59_ Ok! So, if companies want to hire me for a more senior position in future, does that mean you were wrong? [09:54] phanes i think your defense mechanisms are interfering with your ability to process the english language [09:54] reptilian_thrills Ok! So, if I make more money in future, does that mean you were wrong? <- be sure to adjust for inflation [09:55] phanes if we write in gaelic will it get through your emotional hijacking [09:55] mjg59_ What does my faded shine mean in the real world [09:55] mjg59_ This doesn't seem like a hard question [09:55] MinceR 17 105448 < mjg59_> Ok! So, if companies want to hire me for a more senior position in future, does that mean you were wrong? [09:55] phanes it's all right here: https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/ [09:55] TR Bot Index of /database/Garrett, Matthew [09:55] MinceR it means there's more free software to attack still :> [09:56] phanes right in your blind spot [09:56] MinceR pow! right in the kisser! [09:57] mjg59_ My faded shine is a website that includes me calling Kevin Kofler a dick as an example of me engaging in defamation [09:57] phanes fwiw i regularly turn down offers from the big 5 after going through their recruiting processes [09:57] phanes i dont -want- to work at a big 5 [09:57] phanes he's doing that thing where he's misrepresenting a detail as the totality of criticism against his malicious trends [09:58] phanes hasn't worked well for you matt [09:58] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big5 [09:58] TR Bot Big5 - Wikipedia [09:58] mjg59_ Honestly amplifying my belief that Kevin Kofler is a dick probably makes me more employable [09:58] reptilian_thrills My faded shine is a website that includes me calling Kevin Kofler a dick as an example of me engaging in defamation <- this is actually poetic [09:58] phanes it's his only trick [09:58] mjg59_ I've never met anyone who didn't believe Kevin Kofler is a dick [09:59] phanes "officer i did not rear end that car because their tags are expired" [09:59] reptilian_thrills i dont even know who that is [09:59] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: A dick [09:59] reptilian_thrills odds are hes a dick [09:59] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: Better if you don't know tbh [09:59] reptilian_thrills som people get called dicks unfairly [09:59] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 17 [10:00] reptilian_thrills but if we are talking about odds then [10:00] mjg59_ I thought he was a dick 15 years ago, I still do [10:00] phanes nah he didn't even know the name until like 2 years ago when he thought he might be able to escape his current environment he made toxic by trying to become relevant to fedora and leeching off that [10:01] phanes many of his opportunities are closed off so tearing someone down is his only potential inlet in a perpetual cycle of toxicity [10:02] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [10:03] phanes maybe he can jerk off ben cotton enough to let him have diplomatic immunity in that community [10:07] mjg59_ Yeah I'd literally never heard of Kevin Kofler despite being employed to work on Fedora [10:08] mjg59_ You know I worked for Red Hat, right [10:08] mjg59_ Because it's very easy to discover that [10:08] phanes i dont care who youve worked for [10:08] phanes you're garbage [10:08] mjg59_ So I knew who Kevin Kofler was 15 years ago [10:09] mjg59_ And you saying I didn't is a li [10:09] mjg59_ Why do you keep lying about me [10:09] phanes again, words mean things, and you don't decide what those words mean [10:09] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:09] mjg59_ nah he didn't even know the name until like 2 years ago [10:09] phanes again, words mean things, and you don't decide what those words mean2 [10:09] mjg59_ Except I did, so that wasn't true [10:10] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [10:11] phanes my whole main point there is that this was yet another instance of you trying to insert yourself back into the next in a series of communities by attacking someone and using that as your springboard into it so that you can generate more supply [10:11] mjg59_ Huh https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/msg02447.html is me mentioned in a discussion with Kevin in 2010 [10:11] TR Bot FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call forfeedback) [10:11] phanes you don't "know" kevin [10:11] mjg59_ You said I didn't "know the name" [10:12] mjg59_ And yet here's evidence of me interacting with him from 12 years ago [10:12] phanes so, this is where you learn what hyperbole is [10:12] mjg59_ Are you saying that your assertion wasn't 100% true? [10:12] reptilian_thrills Are you saying that your assertion wasn't 100% true? <- hes so good at this. its like a tech support script. [10:13] mjg59_ Did I know Kevin's name more than 2 years ago? Obviously yes. [10:13] phanes i am saying that hyperbole is not meant to be taken strictly, in that you probably have known the name, but that documented instance had nothing to do with that, and that you were using an opportunity to smear someone to try to insert yourself into a community so that you can do more of the same [10:13] mjg59_ Did you claim I didn't? Evidence says yes. [10:13] phanes you can lawyer around on it but you can also go fuck yourself for twisting words around [10:13] reptilian_thrills its not just tech support companies. pickup artists use scripts like that. and even some therapists do now. [10:14] reptilian_thrills theyll give patients scripts to use to interact with people [10:14] mjg59_ reptilian_thrills: I deliberately went on a date years ago with someone who promised to neg me and it was surprisingly effective! I've absolutely made sure to avoid doing that [10:15] phanes he loses at this literally every single time and still persists, ive got to give his delusion of superiority some credit for persistence [10:15] mjg59_ phanes: k let me know when something happens to me in the real world [10:15] phanes bc here i am shitfaced and he's still not getting a win [10:15] phanes like im almost passed out and your bullshit angling doesn't work [10:15] reptilian_thrills it was surprisingly effective! <- i watched two neighbours seduce each other this way [10:16] phanes you are so bad at this [10:16] reptilian_thrills they seemed to hate each other and then two hours later... well anyway [10:16] mjg59_ Huh [10:16] mjg59_ You still haven't defined what a win is [10:17] mjg59_ Write that down and I'll care [10:17] mjg59_ Your obvious counterargument is that you don't care whether I care [10:17] phanes on a brighter note, a strong parallel, i've noticed that alot of people with NPD are exceptionally gullible to their own rhetoric styles, which is really educational about what their intent is when they do this stuff [10:17] mjg59_ In which case, why do you keep responding to me [10:17] mjg59_ Anyway this is all on you I'm going to bed now [10:18] phanes you just keep telling yourself that [10:18] reptilian_thrills Anyway this is all on you I'm going to bed now <- the coup dgrace [10:18] MinceR hi going to bed now, i'm dad [10:18] reptilian_thrills hi going to bed now, i'm dad <- i spoke too soon :D [10:18] mjg59_ And I guess given it's like almost 4:20 where you are and you're shitfaced that I hope the hangover isn't too bad [10:18] reptilian_thrills it's like almost 4:20 where you are and you're shitfaced that I hope the hangover <- if its 4:20 that wont cause a hangover [10:19] phanes its 5:20 out here [10:19] reptilian_thrills its its 5:00 somewhere THAT might cause a hangover [10:19] mjg59_ Oh, you're further east that I thought [10:19] mjg59_ My apologies [10:19] mjg59_ Anyway yeah what he said [10:19] phanes i have some serious sleep problems so weekends are rough [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:20] mjg59_ Well shit I do have sympathy for you there [10:20] phanes no you dont [10:20] mjg59_ Booze probably doesn't solve it [10:20] phanes you don't experience those emotions, you emulate them and express them [10:20] mjg59_ No, I've had sleep issues in the past and it wasn't fun [10:20] mjg59_ Sigh [10:20] mjg59_ You have a specific model of me [10:21] phanes an accurate one [10:21] mjg59_ Well, obviously I disagree [10:21] mjg59_ But [10:21] phanes that's expected [10:21] phanes there are zero cases of rehabilitated NPD [10:21] phanes none of them acknowledge they have the disorder [10:21] mjg59_ A useful exercise for you would be to consider what it would take to convince you that your model was wrong [10:21] phanes starting writing those letters [10:22] mjg59_ Because if you can contrue no scenario where you'd believe your model is wrong, that's not a good sign [10:23] phanes that's not my problem, that's your problem [10:23] mjg59_ I am rubber, you are glue [10:23] MinceR lol [10:24] reptilian_thrills I am rubber, you are glue <- this cant be in the script [10:24] mjg59_ How appropriate. You fight like a cow. [10:24] phanes to his credit i was just about to mention the startling lack of infantilization behaviours [10:25] mjg59_ Hey dude you're the one who's getting shitfaced to deal with his sleeping issues [10:25] phanes now that i think about it though i think for cluster B's that might be bedroom behaviour, which often won't translate to conflict navigation [10:25] mjg59_ Maybe you have some work to do on yourself there [10:26] phanes nah you're inventing scenarios based on shreds of details you picked up again [10:26] phanes im not kevin koefler im someone who actually bites back [10:26] *scientes38 (~d589edb6@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:26] scientes38 XRevan86, cyrillic doesn't seem to have a clear numerology like the English version of Latin [10:27] mjg59_ Yeah I've already had the experience of a dog with no teeth gumming my leg [10:27] scientes38 in which the numerology is criticical simply because English's Latin orthography fucking sucks [10:27] scientes38 but the letters still have names, unlike Georgian [10:27] scientes38 which use the (correct, to be arrogant) sound-only names for letters [10:28] phanes mjg59_, if you'd like to test that theory, we could always fly out to the midwest somewhere to meet and resolve our differences in a style reserved to an older world [10:28] mjg59_ Name the place and I'll be there [10:28] mjg59_ Well [10:28] mjg59_ Provide the time as wel [10:28] scientes38 "The letters also had numeric values, based not on Cyrillic alphabetical order, but inherited from the letters' Greek ancestors. " [10:29] mjg59_ We can have seconds, right? [10:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:29] scientes38 I did notice that greek legacy that Latin also has [10:29] phanes we could make a youtube event of it, sell tickets to that time you got your arse kicked by chris punches [10:29] scientes38 with the order [10:29] scientes38 which actually even goes back earlier than the greek (or at least written greek, contrasting to Homer) [10:30] mjg59_ phanes: Works for me. Find a venue? [10:31] phanes mjg59_, while i'd enjoy it, that's not a track you want to go down. plus no gaurantee you'd show based on last night's little integrity slip. [10:32] reptilian_thrills i was never on irc until 2000 something [10:32] *mib_de5vp6 (~d589edb6@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:33] reptilian_thrills using some dos-based client [10:34] *scientes38 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:37] reptilian_thrills wild [10:37] reptilian_thrills i know a lot of this but not in such a coherent timeline [10:39] MinceR https://apina.biz/191674.jpg?mode=sfw [10:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191674.jpg [10:40] phanes MinceR, in all fairness those are beautiful works of art [10:40] MinceR i'm not bothered by it [10:41] MinceR but the drama is amusing [10:42] reptilian_thrills Undernet is a lot worse than Libera, believe me when I say this. It consists of a group of committees who keep watch on everything, one of those committees will check the list of channels you're in against a "list of bad channels" and if you are seen to be in those bad channels then the X bot ban you from the other channels that you're in. <- at one point libera was more like this [10:42] reptilian_thrills So they're a Government in themselves and they're dictating the shit out of people. <- the main freedom people want [10:42] reptilian_thrills is the freedom to tell other people what to do [10:42] MinceR :> [10:43] MinceR undernet also has subpar services [10:43] phanes that's the truth [10:43] phanes imagine if f/oss just was everyone focused on the product [10:43] phanes we'd be living on MARS by now [10:55] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDaH_DDEXMA [10:55] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=RDaH_DDEXMA [10:55] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=RDaH_DDEXMA ) [10:58] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 125.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 90.31 ● Oct 17 [11:15] *mib_de5vp6 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:19] *Helenah hands over a sloppy joe to MinceR [11:19] *Helenah hands over a sloppy joe to phanes [11:19] *Helenah hands over a sloppy joe to mjg59_ [11:20] *Helenah hands over a sloppy joe to schestowitz[TR] [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[14:26] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@22agg6qj8dxhg.irc) has joined #techrights [14:29] XRevan86 https://neuters.de/technology/parler-be-acquired-by-kanye-west-2022-10-17/ [14:29] TR Bot Kanye West to buy social media app Parler [14:29] starstreak its going to be weird if fedora 37 comes out with gnome 43 and arch still runs on gnome 42 [14:35] TR News (NEW): Best File manager for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Best_File_manager_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Best_File_manager_for_Linux.gmi [14:35] TR Bot Tux Machines Best File manager for Linux [14:37] TR News (NEW): Save your personal data on Linux with Pika Backup http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Save_your_personal_data_on_Linux_with_Pika_Backup.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Save_your_personal_data_on_Linux_with_Pika_Backup.gmi [14:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Save your personal data on Linux with Pika Backup [14:37] schestowitz[TR] social control media is worthless [14:37] schestowitz[TR] that's why many shut down [14:37] schestowitz[TR] or sell desperately [14:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [14:41] starstreak except facebook, the one social network i'd like to see fall [14:41] starstreak but at the same time its the place i get most of my memes [14:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 155.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 106.70 ● Oct 17 [15:04] TR News "i've been puzzling over this setup for a while now. its been a dream of mine to launch an X session directly into tomo's desktop shell. NOW YOU CAN! i'm using wmiv as my default shell until tomo shell is ready to take over as a desktop environment." gemini://sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/posts/2022-10-16-tomo-desktop-environment/ [15:05] TR News "I'm very much reaping what I've sown here and I'm truly grateful that everything is so amicable despite that. 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[15:19] starstreak i herd openSUSE has gnome 43 already [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:38] TR News "The EPO Patent Quality Charter came into force on 1 October, replacing the previous quality policy which the EPO published in 2013." https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/legal-commentary/dissatisfied-industry-users-push-back-against-epo-quality-measures/ [15:38] TR Bot Dissatisfied industry users push back against EPO quality measures - JUVE Patent [15:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:43] TR News "The significant feature of Linux is its transparency and openness to change. But users pay for it with the standardization of the command process." https://net2.com/12-linux-basic-health-check-commands-for-monitoring-performance/ [15:43] TR Bot 12 Linux Basic Health Check Commands for Monitoring Performance [15:43] *phobos (~phobos@y3gt7a5mvaxm6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:44] TR News (NEW): Zynq UltraScale+ SoM with up to 12GB RAM targets LiDAR applications http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Zynq_UltraScale_SoM_with_up_to_12GB_RAM_targets_LiDAR_applicati.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Zynq_UltraScale_SoM_with_up_to_12GB_RAM_targets_LiDAR_applicati.gmi [15:44] TR Bot Tux Machines Zynq UltraScale+ SoM with up to 12GB RAM targets LiDAR applications [15:46] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:48] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu but rolling but also stable! That's what Rhino Linux aims to be http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Ubuntu_but_rolling_but_also_stable_That_s_what_Rhino_Linux_aims.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Ubuntu_but_rolling_but_also_stable_That_s_what_Rhino_Linux_aims.gmi [15:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu but rolling but also stable! That's what Rhino Linux aims to be ● Oct 17 [16:00] TR News (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Terminal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Terminal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Terminal.gmi [16:01] TR Bot Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Terminal [16:07] TR News Surveillance base station. GAFAM+NSA https://www.maketecheasier.com/apple-developing-ipad-smart-home-hub-or-dock/ [16:07] TR Bot Apple Developing an iPad Smart Home Hub or Dock - Make Tech Easier [16:16] TR News "We need to increase the power of one of the Copr VMs. The machine needs to be rebooted, so we expect a several minutes outage. This will affect the copr-backend machine, so RPM repositories will be down." https://status.fedoraproject.org/2022-10-17-copr-backend-reboot.html [16:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://status.fedoraproject.org/2022-10-17-copr-backend-reboot.html ) [16:18] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:19] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Android_Leftovers.gmi [16:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:22] TR News (NEW): Tails 5.5 is out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Tails_5_5_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Tails_5_5_is_out.gmi [16:22] TR Bot Tux Machines Tails 5.5 is out [16:23] *techuser (~techuser@6gcm9uav88pgc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:27] schestowitz[TR] hi, techuser [16:27] techuser hi [16:28] schestowitz[TR] did you lose power? [16:28] techuser no [16:28] schestowitz[TR] mattepo said you had ben on other irc networks [16:28] starstreak linucks [16:29] techuser I only appeared on IKTeam and TWISTED IRCs to tell people that I don't have access to my laptop for a while. [16:32] *dope_dealer does a lot of drugs [16:33] techuser dope_dealer: come to TWISTED IRC probably [16:33] techuser its admin talks about drugs [16:33] techuser irc.executingreality.com/+6697 #winning [16:33] techuser also maybe irc.stardust.cx/+6697 #stardust also has some drugs users [16:33] techuser StardustNetwork [16:34] dope_dealer sweet [16:34] *dope_dealer gives some dope to techuser [16:34] dope_dealer the first one is free [16:35] TR News SC issues notice in petition against internet shutdowns https://internetfreedom.in/sc-decides-to-hear-challenge-against-internet-shutdown-orders-in-j-k-in-a-petition-by-private-school-association-of-j-k/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation [16:35] TR Bot SC issues notice in petition against internet shutdowns [16:37] TR News Meet us at Kubeflow Summit 2022 | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/meet-us-at-kubeflow-summit-2022 Source: Ubuntu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/meet-us-at-kubeflow-summit-2022 [16:37] TR Bot us at Kubeflow Summit 2022 | Ubuntu [16:43] TR News Bad advice. They basically tell you to install proprietary Microsoft spyware and vendor lock-in on a platform that already has many decent code editors which are also Free software and respect privacy. https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-vs-code-on-fedora-linux/ [16:43] TR Bot How to Install VS Code on Fedora Linux: A Step-by-Step Guide [16:43] schestowitz[TR] dope_dealer: are you here for tech rights or for trolling? [16:45] TR News That dancing robot is CREEPY. Reacting to your BAD (and great) Steam Deck boot movies. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r88JLj-WChY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/r88JLj-WChY [16:45] TR Bot That dancing robot is CREEPY. Reacting to your BAD (and great) Steam Deck boot movies. - Invidious [16:49] TR News Ubuntu bug fix anniversary | Just Jeremy https://jeremy.bicha.net/2022/10/17/ubuntu-bug-fix-anniversary/ Source: Jeremy | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jeremy.bicha.net/2022/10/17/ubuntu-bug-fix-anniversary/ [16:49] TR Bot Ubuntu bug fix anniversary | Just Jeremy [16:52] dope_dealer schestowitz[TR]: im here for tech rights [16:53] dope_dealer i love the up to date links and information [16:54] schestowitz[TR] good [16:57] TR News (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu: Bug Fixing, Kubeflow, VeraCrypt, and and vGPUs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Bug_Fixing_Kubeflow_VeraCrypt_and_and_vGPUs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Canonical_Ubuntu_Bug_Fixing_Kubeflow_VeraCrypt_and_and_vGPUs.gmi [16:57] TR Bot Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Bug Fixing, Kubeflow, VeraCrypt, and and vGPUs [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 112.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 84.15 ● Oct 17 [17:00] TR News PHP 8.2 Preparation Tasks https://wiki.php.net/todo/php82 coming soon [17:00] TR Bot PHP: todo:php82 [17:01] MinceR (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Stalker-911900121 [17:01] TR Bot by FurLined on DeviantArt [17:02] *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:03] TR News The typical malicious clickbait from Simon Sharwood https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linus_Torvalds_Announces_First_Linux_Kernel_6_1_Release_Candida.shtml [17:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Linus Torvalds Announces First Linux Kernel 6.1 Release Candidate [17:04] phanes mjg59_, as much as I hate to admit it, I owe you and your fiance a sincere apology on something. I made an assumption and did not realize that Agora had undergone confirmation surgery. I apologize for assuming that this was an extension of your tendency to hide behind vulnerable communities, and if they are aware of my ugly comments, please extend my apologies to them for that. While I dislike both of you for good reasons, the assumptions I [17:04] phanes expressed were toxic, assumptive, and ultimately harmful to others going through the same journey. [17:04] TR News Best Privacy - Security Tools For Linux - Latest Hacking News | Cyber Security News, Hacking Tools and Penetration Testing Courses https://latesthackingnews.com/2022/10/17/best-privacy-security-tools-for-linux/ [17:04] TR Bot Best Privacy & Security Tools For Linux - Latest Hacking News | Cyber Security News, Hacking Tools and Penetration Testing Courses [17:05] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [17:06] starstreak ok so i rebooted for linucks 6.0.2 and checked my memory usage, looks like gnome + keybase use 1.9GB [17:06] TR News Porting Slate to Qt for WebAssembly https://www.qt.io/blog/porting-slate-to-qt-for-webassembly Source: Qt | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/porting-slate-to-qt-for-webassembly [17:06] TR Bot Porting Slate to Qt for WebAssembly [17:06] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:07] TR News Mozilla Firefox 106 https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/106.0/ [17:07] TR Bot Directory Listing: /pub/firefox/releases/106.0/ [17:10] TR News (NEW): [KDE/Nate Graham] On hiring, and fundraising to make it more biggerer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/_KDE_Nate_Graham_On_hiring_and_fundraising_to_make_it_more_bigg.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/_KDE_Nate_Graham_On_hiring_and_fundraising_to_make_it_more_bigg.gmi [17:10] TR Bot Tux Machines [KDE/Nate Graham] On hiring, and fundraising to make it more biggerer [17:11] *parsifal (~parsifal@8vte7vm6885eu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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CNX: we published this spam because someone paid us to, not because it is relevant. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/17/robobeats-interactive-music-robot-doubles-as-bluetooth-speaker/ [17:37] TR Bot roboBeats - Interactive music robot doubles as Bluetooth speaker (Sponsored) - CNX Software [17:40] MinceR lol @ Agora's surgery [17:51] TR News GCC: Initial Meteorlake Support https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commit;h=fd206f0e95fb6f41b96eaaaab1dc0c30378e5e08 [17:51] TR Bot Git - gcc.git/commit ● Oct 17 [18:02] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:04] *Noisytoot has quit (Connection closed) [18:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:06] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [18:07] TR News Links 17/10/2022: Tails 5.5 and Mozilla Firefox 106 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/mozilla-firefox-106/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/mozilla-firefox-106/ [18:07] TR Bot Links 17/10/2022: Tails 5.5 and Mozilla Firefox 106 | Techrights [18:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [18:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [18:07] TR News (NEW): Security and Microsoft Tax Evasion http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_and_Microsoft_Tax_Evasion.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_and_Microsoft_Tax_Evasion.gmi [18:07] TR Bot Tux Machines Security and Microsoft Tax Evasion [18:07] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22080960 [18:07] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/qk64w9agshg91.jpg created on 2022-08-09 18:41:55.732669 [18:10] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Connection closed) [18:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:16] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [18:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [18:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [18:19] AdmFubar https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent [18:19] TR Bot How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher ProPublica [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:27] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:27] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@kuh9gcuv8xu84.irc) has joined #techrights [18:28] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [18:42] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [18:42] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@awtezbru2rbma.irc) has joined #techrights [18:54] *betsy (~igloo@uiaw66cn9dd3w.irc) has joined #techrights [18:57] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:58] AdmFubar https://techxplore.com/news/2022-10-fog-reveal-legal-scholar-app.html [18:58] TR Bot What is Fog Reveal? A legal scholar explains the app some police forces are using to track people without a warrant [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 147.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 95.56 [18:59] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [18:59] *betsy (~igloo@uiaw66cn9dd3w.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 17 [19:01] *gde33 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:03] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [19:08] *betsy (~igloo@7wr3w5yufjxvq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:10] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [19:12] phanes MinceR, eh, sometimes I'm wrong too. I make adjustments when I realize it. I acknowledge my personal failure in that, but continue to assert that they are both gigantic pieces of dog shit. [19:13] phanes Not just regular dog shit either. The kind of dog shit that gets made when a dog spots another dog's turd out on a walk, and eats it, and then makes it into a new dog turd for the cycle to repeat. [19:14] phanes We're talking twice-shat dog shit. [19:15] phanes Dues ex Excrementus [19:16] MinceR lol [19:18] phanes That said, I was 100% wrong to express the assumption that they had not undergone what was likely a painful journey of gender transition. [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:32] starstreak attack surface btw [19:36] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [19:42] starstreak I'm watching "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and it was one of the first movies I saw as a kid. I remember thinking cartoons were real because of it. Now, only Alex Jones fits the bill as a cartoon character. [19:43] XRevan86 https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1582006631394869250 Well, shit. [19:43] TR Bot Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Look at @YouTube protecting Russian propagandists. They've deleted 60 of my videos this morning. For those who preferred to watch and share my videos from there, sorry about that. Try to watch as soon as I post, because YouTube is likely to delete, to protect the Kremlin's image."|nitter.it [19:43] phanes check out cool world if you like that genre starstreak [19:43] starstreak oh yeah! [19:44] *starstreak downloads [19:48] starstreak there was a really bad cool world video game for snes ● Oct 17 [20:00] TR News "Ok, so, I've basically resolved myself to quit this job and do something else. There's nothing for me here, and I'm not interested in dealing with my boss anymore." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1666015289 [20:01] TR News There's No Such Thing as a Rodent gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/fish.gmi [20:02] TR News Morning Photos 2022-10-17 (Fairbanks, AK, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221017-0.gmi [20:02] TR News Curatorial thinking, free speech gemini://oberdada.pollux.casa/gemlog/2022-10-17_curatorial_thinking.gmi [20:18] AdmFubar https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-17/uk-discusses-blackout-planning-with-data-center-operators [20:18] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:20] TR News Even Patent Maximalists Across Europe Are Dissatisfied With the European Patent Offices Shameless Race to the Bottom (Illegal European Patents) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-in-trouble/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-in-trouble/ [20:20] TR Bot Even Patent Maximalists Across Europe Are Dissatisfied With the European Patent Offices Shameless Race to the Bottom (Illegal European Patents) | Techrights [20:25] mjg59_ phanes: Thanks, I appreciate you apologising for making a clearly factually incorrect assertion [20:26] TR News [Meme] The F***ing Precedent | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-precedent/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-precedent/ [20:26] TR Bot [Meme] The F***ing Precedent | Techrights [20:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@pupsf4x2uvcgu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:36] dope_dealer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpes_ImFPnM [20:36] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=wpes_ImFPnM [20:36] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=wpes_ImFPnM ) [20:37] DaemonFC Okay, so the fender is in, the paint matches this time. [20:37] DaemonFC It's not that stupid military gray that they tried to pull on us last time. [20:37] DaemonFC RockAuto. :P [20:38] DaemonFC I'm trying to keep the car all one color. :) [20:38] DaemonFC It looks good except for the driver side fender is just bubbling up. No break through yet, but it's definitely rust going on under there that's just not going to be fixed. [20:39] DaemonFC I figured sanding it down, filling it with bondo, and painting it would work, but.... [20:39] DaemonFC It looked perfect for two months and then the paint started to go bad again. Something happened and there's some cavitation and the repair just didn't hold. [20:40] DaemonFC I wouldn't have normally bought a car that had that much rust on a fender except that the rest of the car is in fairly good shape, excepting that brake mess that I had to work through. [20:41] DaemonFC It just passed 58,000 miles and it's a 2008. For the most part, it looks like it's only 2-3 years old. [20:41] DaemonFC Like someone got dinged not terribly bad a time or two and took it through the wash for a couple years. [20:42] DaemonFC Nothing makes you more pissed off than buying a brand new car and your first payment for 6 years has just gone into the bank, and...... [20:42] DaemonFC You get door dinged by someone in a rust bucket that followed you out to the edge of the parking lot for some reason. [20:43] DaemonFC mjg59_, I hate California. Tesla is one of the reasons. Everyone who drives one is a piece of shit. [20:43] DaemonFC They cut you off and break all of the traffic laws and such. [20:43] DaemonFC I got revenge on one of them coming back up from vacation. [20:43] DaemonFC They tried to zoom past me in a lane that turned into an exit ramp and get back out in front. [20:44] starstreak Did you sign them up for 1000s of mailing lists? [20:44] DaemonFC So I trapped them behind my Buick and an Impala behind me by speeding up and then slowing down to close distance so they couldn't get back in. [20:44] DaemonFC So they had to get on the off ramp heading towards Indiana or crash into the rain buckets. [20:44] DaemonFC So they chose the Indiana off ramp. [20:45] DaemonFC Hope they were at 100% when they set out because there's no charging stations for the piece of shit. [20:45] dope_dealer road rage because of the car they drive? you sound like the piece of shit [20:46] starstreak ^ [20:46] phanes mjg59_, you're welcome, you twice shat dog turd [20:46] DaemonFC We have signs that warn against pissing off Chicago drivers on the freeway. [20:47] DaemonFC A lot of them will just pull out a gun and start shooting at your car. [20:49] DaemonFC road rage because of the car they drive? you sound like the piece of shit [20:49] DaemonFC They're all very aggressive. [20:49] DaemonFC Nobody likes Tesla drivers. [20:50] DaemonFC They peel out in front of you and pass using the emergency lane and stuff. [20:50] DaemonFC Get right up on your bumper. [20:50] DaemonFC They're worse than a teenager in a Honda. [20:51] TR News (NEW): Stable Kernels: Linux 5.10.149 and Linux 5.4.219 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Stable_Kernels_Linux_5_10_149_and_Linux_5_4_219.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Stable_Kernels_Linux_5_10_149_and_Linux_5_4_219.gmi [20:51] DaemonFC Electric cars have a lot of torque and horsepower, usually, but that's where the good part ends. [20:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Stable Kernels: Linux 5.10.149 and Linux 5.4.219 [20:51] DaemonFC The battery packs are extremely unreliable and they cost more than an entire gasoline-powered car to replace. [20:51] DaemonFC And they tend to die every 5-6 years, and then you find out that it's 50/50 as to whether you can even get another one. [20:52] DaemonFC So you may have car payments for a year on something that needs a $20,000 battery. [20:52] DaemonFC It's an impossible choice about whether to even bother fixing a car like that because if they make the battery and you pay to have them put it in, you have a car that's 5-6 years old that has other stuff waiting to go bad like bam bam bam bam bam. [20:53] DaemonFC And so you're just as well off to take the loss and start over at this point. [20:53] DaemonFC So they're a toy for rich people that Biden is propping up with my taxes. [20:54] DaemonFC Electric cars are Hell. It isn't just the battery. It's the software, it's the level of knowledge required to work on it (expensive labor hours), sensors, software..... [20:54] phanes yeah they've almost reached a point where open and flagrant, widespread disregard of the restrictions being passed on vehicles would be appropriate [20:54] DaemonFC It's not like you're going to go down and tell the shop give me the $99 brake pads if you're broke and you just need the car to stop. [20:55] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], had an entire series about this where he quoted me talking about these things. [20:55] DaemonFC Even the gas powered cars are getting pretty bad. [20:55] DaemonFC But electric? No way! [20:55] phanes the government spends too much time and resources making decisions for the private sector [20:56] DaemonFC There's only two reasons why you may need to replace an entire gas tank. Someone drilled the tank to get your gas or it rusted and you can't get it to stop leaking now. [20:56] DaemonFC And it's never $20,000 like one of these damned batteries. [20:56] DaemonFC That's a lot of gas. :) [20:56] DaemonFC If all someone did was drill it, you might get away with patching it using JB Weld or something. [20:56] phanes or someone filled your tank with plastic beads [20:57] DaemonFC It's cheaper than an entire gas tank. [20:57] DaemonFC phanes, Those modern cars are a much more attractive target for vandals who want your catalytic converter. [20:58] DaemonFC They'll get 3-6 times as much money going after a hybrid car than mine. [20:58] DaemonFC I've never had a catalytic converter stolen because I tend to drive older model cars where they'd have to dismantle a bunch of shit to get at it and they'd get like $80 in the end. [20:59] DaemonFC It's much easier to go after a Prius with a sawzall for 3 minutes and get $350. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 113.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.33 ● Oct 17 [21:00] DaemonFC You're going to make a hell of a lot of noise so you want to swoop in and get out before the police respond. [21:00] DaemonFC Which means if it's going to take you longer than a few minutes, don't bother. [21:00] DaemonFC Most of these people doing catalytic converter thefts wouldn't be out there doing this if there were any jobs for them or they didn't already have a criminal record. [21:01] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [21:01] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [21:01] DaemonFC It's only going to get worse and worse the longer Biden's in office doubling the unemployment rate in a deliberate recession. [21:01] DaemonFC The shit rolls downhill eventually. [21:01] DaemonFC When the mjg59_ people get fired from their fake job at the cash furnace..... [21:02] DaemonFC They stop going to Starbucks eventually. [21:03] DaemonFC The Fed is pretty much done accomodating all of these bubble companies like Aurora. [21:03] DaemonFC So they have whatever money they had on hand plus revenue, but his employer burns 10 times their revenue every year. [21:03] DaemonFC So they don't have long to live. [21:03] DaemonFC In the course of a year, there's enough revenue to cover operations for about a month. [21:04] DaemonFC So, sooner or later the CEO comes out and announces "layoffs to keep the winning going". [21:04] DaemonFC If he can take another 6 months to plow it into the ground, he can bank another bonus, you know. [21:04] DaemonFC Winning. [21:05] DaemonFC That's all it is now. Tending to the corpse and begging Microsoft to pay too much for it. [21:06] DaemonFC mjg59_ is at a job where he deserves to fail. [21:06] DaemonFC The whole company exists to make drivers obsolete. So it's an attack on millions of workers. [21:06] DaemonFC It's worse than if he took the job at Netflix doing DRM. [21:07] TR News The ILOs Tribunal Decided That the Appeals Committee (ApC) at the European Patent Office (EPO) is Flawed and Staff Can Take Action | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/clock-at-iloat-is-ticking/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/clock-at-iloat-is-ticking/ [21:07] TR Bot The ILOs Tribunal Decided That the Appeals Committee (ApC) at the European Patent Office (EPO) is Flawed and Staff Can Take Action | Techrights [21:07] phanes honestly the DRM gig might distract him from making the whole UEFI thing any worse [21:07] DaemonFC There's not very many good paying jobs left for people who couldn't go to college and trucking is one of them. [21:07] DaemonFC And Aurora wants to take that away and give it to software that inevitably causes more accidents. [21:08] DaemonFC Software has bugs. It's not intuitive. [21:08] DaemonFC When I'm driving my car I have to instinctively interpret many variables very quickly, including the odds of everyone else on the road doing anything that can conceivably happen. [21:08] DaemonFC So you can't have this software + humans on the road. [21:09] DaemonFC You'd need an integrated system to manage it all, and that makes it vulnerable to malware or state-sponsored murder. [21:09] schestowitz[TR] Software has bugs. It's not intuitive. [21:09] schestowitz[TR] I'd frame it differently [21:09] schestowitz[TR] since I ahve direct experience in this are [21:09] DaemonFC You can't install a RAT into my brain and force me to crash the Buick. [21:09] phanes not yet anyway [21:09] schestowitz[TR] the issue is the non-deterministic nature of the problem domain [21:09] DaemonFC It's air gapped. It doesn't run foreign software. [21:10] schestowitz[TR] you deal with -- as you say -- a plastic bag flying in the wind [21:10] schestowitz[TR] pets and animals [21:10] schestowitz[TR] humans in various scenarios [21:10] phanes BCI is advancing at a jogger's pace [21:10] schestowitz[TR] like running at you asking for help [21:10] schestowitz[TR] for a car to figure out what goes on in the mind of people is hard [21:10] schestowitz[TR] like, figuring out some person is crazy [21:10] schestowitz[TR] based on the clothes and gait andf gestures [21:10] DaemonFC The only situations where I've been in a car accident, a computer program couldn't have done any better. [21:11] DaemonFC A computer program would have expected that guy who was drunk and ran the red light to stop. [21:11] schestowitz[TR] there are many other issues [21:11] schestowitz[TR] like, you cannot drive into a cliff [21:11] schestowitz[TR] if you are sane, you will have strong implusive resistance to that [21:11] DaemonFC A computer program that uses cameras wouldn't have seen a jogger behind trees while the car was coming down a steep hill and on gravel road. [21:11] schestowitz[TR] a computer program doesn't value your life [21:11] DaemonFC No, it doesn't. [21:12] DaemonFC A computer might be told that these are the rules of the road. [21:12] phanes neither do the people writing AI-based solutions [21:12] DaemonFC But most humans disregard the rules. [21:12] schestowitz[TR] it's like vertigo [21:12] DaemonFC If they want to go drinking and then drive their car, they do. [21:12] schestowitz[TR] even baby animals have vertigo [21:13] DaemonFC Rules don't matter if they're ignored. [21:13] schestowitz[TR] if you lack that, you won't pass on your egenes for long [21:13] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I volunteered on the Mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana's campaign in 2015. [21:13] DaemonFC A week ago, he got pulled over by the police and charged with DUI and endangering a human life while driving drunk. [21:13] DaemonFC He's already pleaded guilty. We'll see what happens. [21:13] DaemonFC Now I feel bad. [21:14] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2017/02/08/immunity-and-impunity-euipo/ [21:14] TR Bot Immunity of the Intellectual Property Office of the European Union Causes Outrage in Spanish Media | Techrights [21:14] schestowitz[TR] if he worked as president of euipo or epo [21:14] DaemonFC I put in effort so a guy who I now know is a drunk driver is the mayor of a major city. [21:14] DaemonFC He'll get preferential treatment in court. [21:14] schestowitz[TR] he would get away with drinking, driving, and crashing the car while drunk [21:14] phanes heheh i should run for mayor of a small town out here [21:15] schestowitz[TR] cambridge? [21:15] schestowitz[TR] or maine something, not mass [21:15] phanes huh? im in ohio [21:15] schestowitz[TR] ah [21:15] DaemonFC There's rules and there's rules. [21:15] DaemonFC The cop probably wouldn't have pulled him over but after he rolled the window down and the stop was initiated... [21:15] schestowitz[TR] if the peasants found out, they'd bbbe infuriated [21:16] DaemonFC There would have been a major scandal if it didn't proceed. [21:16] DaemonFC So they'll slap him on the wrist to say he was punished just like anyone who goes to court. [21:16] TR News (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.1 RC1 Arrives with Initial Rust Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Kernel_6_1_RC1_Arrives_with_Initial_Rust_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Kernel_6_1_RC1_Arrives_with_Initial_Rust_Support.gmi [21:16] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.1 RC1 Arrives with Initial Rust Support [21:16] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: maybe he should have had a butler [21:16] schestowitz[TR] and personal driver [21:16] DaemonFC If it came out that the police pulled him over drunk and let him go, the City Council there would almost certainly impeach the mayor. [21:16] schestowitz[TR] like the fallman dick allen jones [21:16] DaemonFC They still might. [21:17] DaemonFC It remains to be seen how badly this damages him in next year's election. [21:17] DaemonFC Maybe if he gets it out of the way it won't be a major talking point or he can explain himself. [21:17] DaemonFC He wins that city by being Catholic in a very Catholic city. [21:18] DaemonFC What passes for large cities in the Midwest tend to have major Catholic populations. [21:18] DaemonFC But in the rural areas, it's almost all Protestants. [21:19] DaemonFC They don't like each other very much but there's a sort of dtente. [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] DaemonFC It's sort of they tell each other's children "Those are horrible sinners and don't go anywhere near them, and they're not actually Christians." but there's not violence in the streets or anything. [21:20] DaemonFC Many states still have anti-Catholic amendments in their Constitutions. [21:20] DaemonFC But the Supreme Court is dismantling that. [21:21] DaemonFC The day that the Protestant majorities feared is here. [21:21] DaemonFC The Catholics are building schools and hospitals. [21:21] DaemonFC They now control 1/7th of all hospital beds in the US. [21:22] DaemonFC I told mom that I don't trust my medical care to a Catholic medical system. [21:22] *mib_e5r4gd (~70c9aada@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:22] DaemonFC How can you even call yourself a doctor and then refuse medical care based on superstitions that you know are false? [21:23] DaemonFC You'd think that eight years of post-secondary education would be enough to dispel fucking Catholicism. [21:30] TR News (UPDATED): Linux Fixes WLAN Flaw http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Linux_Fixes_WLAN_Flaw.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Linux_Fixes_WLAN_Flaw.gmi [21:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Fixes WLAN Flaw [21:34] TR News Admitting this is not a review but a bribe. Crystal Crowder has become a purveyor of misinformation for profit: "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by GiiKER." https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/giiker-super-blocks/ [21:34] TR Bot GiiKER Super Blocks Review - Make Tech Easier [21:36] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Choose the Best Laptop to Install Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/How_to_Choose_the_Best_Laptop_to_Install_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/How_to_Choose_the_Best_Laptop_to_Install_Linux.gmi [21:36] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Choose the Best Laptop to Install Linux [21:37] TR News (NEW): 10 Free and Open Source Subtitle Editors for Linux in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/10_Free_and_Open_Source_Subtitle_Editors_for_Linux_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/10_Free_and_Open_Source_Subtitle_Editors_for_Linux_in_2022.gmi [21:37] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Free and Open Source Subtitle Editors for Linux in 2022 [21:37] TR News Alien: Isolation Challenge Missions 1-3 | Live Stream Highlights - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IabtsATi90o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/IabtsATi90o [21:37] TR Bot Alien: Isolation Challenge Missions 1-3 | Live Stream Highlights - Invidious [21:38] TR News I wrote an Entire Book with Free and Open-Source Software - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ecMKIHAVwKA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ecMKIHAVwKA [21:38] TR Bot I wrote an Entire Book with Free and Open-Source Software - Invidious [21:38] TR News "In the forty-first episode of the WordPress Briefing, peek into the upcoming WordPress 6.1 release with our host, Josepha Haden Chomphosy, and the releases Editor Triage Lead, Nick Diego." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/10/episode-41-wordpress-6-1-sneak-peek-with-special-guest-nick-diego/ [21:38] TR Bot Episode 41: WordPress 6.1 Sneak Peek with Special Guest Nick Diego WordPress News [21:39] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Xubuntu 22.10 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5Ts2Z60O4xI [21:39] TR Bot Xubuntu 22.10 overview | elegance and ease of use. - Invidious [21:41] starstreak Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates making out: https://i.imgur.com/pVkDQ6B.jpg [21:42] TR News Will Linux Survive After Linus Torvalds Dies? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eL7BqWDCd8Q | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/eL7BqWDCd8Q [21:42] TR Bot Will Linux Survive After Linus Torvalds Dies? - Invidious [21:42] techuser it will [21:42] techuser but it is already rotting [21:43] techuser it doesn't matter who manages its development [21:43] techuser some corporations will take it [21:44] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:44] starstreak and they'll be all corporationy [21:44] TR News "The article doesnt say how the hacking tool got installed into cars. Were there crooked auto mechanics, dealers, or something else?" Of course they don't say. Lousy 'reporting'... https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/hacking-automobile-keyless-entry-systems.html [21:44] TR Bot Automobile Keyless Entry Systems - Schneier on Security [21:46] TR News (NEW): Kdenlive 22.08.2 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Kdenlive_22_08_2_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Kdenlive_22_08_2_released.gmi [21:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08.2 released [21:47] TR News (NEW): Videos/Shows: Linus, Xubuntu, WordPress, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Videos_Shows_Linus_Xubuntu_WordPress_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Videos_Shows_Linus_Xubuntu_WordPress_and_More.gmi [21:47] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Linus, Xubuntu, WordPress, and More [21:51] TR News Juno offering Linux-powered tablet PC The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Juno_Tablet_is_a_Linux_tablet_with_an_Intel_Jasper_Lake_process.shtml [21:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Juno Tablet is a Linux tablet with an Intel Jasper Lake processor for $429 and up [21:52] TR News Microsoft TCO - Medibank says access to some systems restored after breach https://itwire.com/security/medibank-says-access-to-some-systems-restored-after-breach.html "Medibank was initially hosted by Telstra, first on Linux and Apache, and later moved to Microsoft's Internet Information Server." [21:52] TR Bot - Medibank says access to some systems restored after breach [21:56] TR News GnuPG 2.3.8 released [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/911467/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/911467/ [21:56] TR Bot 2.3.8 released [LWN.net] [21:57] TR News Some of the largest clients or customers of the EPO (yes, the EPO views itself and behaves like a for-profit corporation*) are publicly complaining http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-in-trouble/ [21:57] TR Bot Even Patent Maximalists Across Europe Are Dissatisfied With the European Patent Offices Shameless Race to the Bottom (Illegal European Patents) | Techrights [21:57] TR News Lowering the patent quality as much as Antnio Campinos does isnt just unprecedented but also illegal http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/epo-precedent/ [21:57] TR Bot [Meme] The F***ing Precedent | Techrights [21:58] TR News Decision [by ILO] on internal appeals at the EPO is being utilised to overturn wrong decisions, overseen by unqualified and vengeful managers instead of proper processes http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/clock-at-iloat-is-ticking/ [21:58] TR Bot The ILOs Tribunal Decided That the Appeals Committee (ApC) at the European Patent Office (EPO) is Flawed and Staff Can Take Action | Techrights ● Oct 17 [22:02] TR News Surveillance device. Cult of Steve Blows has managed to make body spying devices "cool" and "fashionable". https://itwire.com/mobility/analyst-says-attach-rate-for-apple-watch-highest-in-1h-2022.html [22:02] TR Bot - Analyst says attach rate for Apple Watch highest in 1H 2022 [22:03] TR News Emulating Double Precision on the GPU to Render Large Worlds https://godotengine.org/article/emulating-double-precision-gpu-render-large-worlds [22:03] TR Bot Godot Engine - Emulating Double Precision on the GPU to Render Large Worlds [22:03] TR News (UPDATED): Windows 11 22H2 cant keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Windows_11_22H2_can_t_keep_up_with_Linux_6_0_and_Ubuntu_22_10_o.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Windows_11_22H2_can_t_keep_up_with_Linux_6_0_and_Ubuntu_22_10_o.gmi [22:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Windows 11 22H2 cant keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X (UPDATED) [22:06] TR News Release Notes for Open 3D Engine 22.10.0 - Open 3D Engine https://www.o3de.org/docs/release-notes/22-10-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.o3de.org/docs/release-notes/22-10-0/ [22:06] TR Bot Release Notes for Open 3D Engine 22.10.0 - Open 3D Engine [22:07] TR News GCC Compiler Patches Arrive For Intel Meteor Lake - Sierra Forest CPUs https://wccftech.com/gcc-compiler-patches-arrive-for-intel-meteor-lake-sierra-forest-cpus/ Source: WCCF Tech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wccftech.com/gcc-compiler-patches-arrive-for-intel-meteor-lake-sierra-forest-cpus/ [22:07] TR Bot GCC Compiler Patches Arrive For Intel Meteor Lake & Sierra Forest CPUs [22:08] TR News "Elizabeth Mattijsen has published an introduction into the Raku Programming Language by means of the grep functionality, called Dont fear the grepper!" https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/10/17/2022-42-grep-no-fear/ [22:08] TR Bot 2022.42 Grep no Fear Rakudo Weekly News [22:09] TR News "This month Ive done a lot of cleanup and bugfixing in wlroots, especially in the DRM backend, the Vulkan renderer and screencopy protocol implementation. There are still a few DRM backend bugs which need to be ironed out, but were getting there!" https://emersion.fr/blog/2022/status-update-46/ [22:09] TR Bot Status update, October 2022 emersion [22:10] TR News VESA Releases DisplayPort 2.1 Specification - VESA - Interface Standards for The Display Industry https://vesa.org/featured-articles/vesa-releases-displayport-2-1-specification/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//vesa.org/featured-articles/vesa-releases-displayport-2-1-specification/ [22:10] TR Bot VESA Releases DisplayPort 2.1 Specification - VESA - Interface Standards for The Display Industry [22:10] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22100356 [22:10] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/5khrx5vwpn951.jpg created on 2022-10-03 16:35:27.309832 [22:11] TR News libcamera v0.0.1 https://git.libcamera.org/libcamera/libcamera.git/tag/?h=v0.0.1 [22:11] TR Bot libcamera/libcamera.git - libcamera official repository [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:24] TR News Dima Kogan: gnuplot output in an FLTK widget http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/10/17_gnuplot-output-in-an-fltk-widget.html [22:24] TR Bot gnuplot output in an FLTK widget [22:25] TR News Clown computing is a bubble and companies go out of business, looking to be salvaged by anyone gullible enough or ambitious enough https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/17/nutanix-for-sale-and-the-only-buyer-might-be-a-big-cloud/ [22:25] TR Bot Nutanix For Sale, And The Only Buyer Might Be A Big Cloud [22:27] TR News Expensive hype https://containerjournal.com/features/kubecost-adds-saas-edition-to-control-kubernetes-costs/ [22:27] TR Bot Kubecost Adds SaaS Edition to Control Kubernetes Costs - Container Journal [22:28] TR News Hype benefiting from buzzwords https://containerjournal.com/features/why-kubernetes-would-benefit-from-a-paas/ [22:28] TR Bot Why Kubernetes Would Benefit From a PaaS - Container Journal [22:30] TR News Spam disguised as 'article' https://linuxsecurity.com/features/choosing-the-right-remote-access-solution-for-your-linux-environment see https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Advertising_is_killing_Tech_Journalism.shtml [22:30] TR Bot Choosing the Right Remote Access Solution for Your Linux Environmen... [22:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Advertising is killing Tech Journalism [22:30] TR News blog.ipfire.org - Global PKI considered harmful: A plaidoyer for using DANE https://blog.ipfire.org/post/global-pki-considered-harmful-a-plaidoyer-for-using-dane Source: IPFire Official Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.ipfire.org/post/global-pki-considered-harmful-a-plaidoyer-for-using-dane [22:31] TR Bot - Global PKI considered harmful: A plaidoyer for using DANE [22:34] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [22:34] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [22:38] TR News If you are using 'kubectl', you are probably doing it wrong https://www.nethopper.io/post/youre-doing-it-wrong | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nethopper.io/post/youre-doing-it-wrong [22:38] TR Bot If you are using 'kubectl', you are probably doing it wrong [22:40] TR News define-er-syntax* gemini://idiomdrottning.org/define-er-syntax [22:40] TR News (NEW): Games: Godot and Open 3D Engine http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Games_Godot_and_Open_3D_Engine.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Games_Godot_and_Open_3D_Engine.gmi [22:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Godot and Open 3D Engine [22:41] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [22:41] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [22:41] TR News (NEW): Linux/Graphics: libcamera, Vesa, and DRM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Graphics_libcamera_Vesa_and_DRM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Graphics_libcamera_Vesa_and_DRM.gmi [22:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux/Graphics: libcamera, Vesa, and DRM [22:41] TR News (NEW): Clown Computing and Kubernetes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Clown_Computing_and_Kubernetes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Clown_Computing_and_Kubernetes.gmi [22:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Clown Computing and Kubernetes [22:42] TR News SAP 'validated' (marketing) by SAP. That's how it feels like SUSE shills SAP these days. Proprietary software pusher. https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-rke-2-is-validated-with-sap-data-intelligence-3-3/ [22:42] TR Bot Rancher RKE 2 is validated with SAP Data Intelligence 3.3 | SUSE Communities [22:46] TR News Links 17/10/2022: Kdenlive 22.08.2, Libcamera 0.0.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/17/libcamera-0-0-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/17/libcamera-0-0-1/ [22:46] DaemonFC Okay, I washed the car, topped off the tires, and cleaned the junk out. [22:46] TR Bot Links 17/10/2022: Kdenlive 22.08.2, Libcamera 0.0.1 | Techrights [22:47] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Programming_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Programming_Leftovers.2.gmi [22:47] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 206.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 92.73 ● Oct 17 [23:09] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@m5xis46sftpfi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:09] *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed) [23:09] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22100319 [23:09] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ajzngxmndyq91.jpg created on 2022-10-03 06:32:12.685472 [23:09] *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@nbnsvpfizihkw.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] DaemonFC To get through the warranty period, you have to come by the dealership in your electric car once a year so they can battery throttle you and set it to lie and say it's doing fine in there. [23:15] DaemonFC Then right after the 5 year warranty ends, one day your car won't start. [23:15] DaemonFC $20,000 battery and they can't get it. [23:15] DaemonFC But they have a fine new car over here and the financing will be great. [23:15] DaemonFC Don't worry about the last one. They'll take it off your hands. [23:15] DaemonFC You don't want that old thing anymore. [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:30] *thelounge26 (~thelounge@gi9bzw5u6i9sy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] techuser hi [23:32] thelounge26 Hello, techuser