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[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[01:53]	DaemonFC	So I found out Walmart actually isn't paying for COVID leave.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	They complained about how much it was costing them during the Omicron surge and got rid of it in March.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	No wonder people hide it and come in and work.
[01:55]	geert	I suggest you try not to trust the resulting 'top dog positioning' within society under influence of malicious monetary /economic design/application
[01:55]	geert	I suggest you better try not to trust*
[01:56]	geert	currently effects of malicious monetary/economic design/applications structurally involve 'top of the bill mentality' moving FROM 'top dog positions'
[01:58]	geert	so that does pretty much result to less reliable pharmaceutical/healthcare development and also less reliable investor/entrepeneur positions
[01:58]	geert	these companies are not there to serve whats sometimes referred to as 'the little man'
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● Nov 17
[02:05]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/politics/senate-vote-same-sex-marriage/index.html
[02:05]	TR Bot	marriage: Senate clears procedural step on bill | CNN Politics
[02:05]	DaemonFC	"The Senate on Wednesday cleared a key procedural hurdle toward historic passage of the bipartisan bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage, voting 62-37 to break a filibuster."
[02:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], I told Mandy don't bother using PPTO if they're not going to point him though.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	I can just declare this week as a loss of income on our taxes.
[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:21]	geert	what i get to consider kind of astonishing, is that from the stance 'governing', 'taxation' etc. public management does NOT need to decide how people get to live together, via what TYPE.
[02:21]	geert	so i guess marriage should be better outside government 'decisive' reach
[02:21]	geert	besides state of law management should be about maximization of 'equality'
[02:23]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/walmart-covid-leave-policy-doesnt-pay-employees-if-they-get-covid/
[02:23]	TR Bot	 Walmart COVID Leave Policy doesnt pay employees if they get COVID. | BaronHK's Rants
[02:36]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/yx4ia2/i_just_calculated_the_price_of_milk_in_the_uk_has/
[02:36]	TR Bot	 I just calculated the price of milk in the UK has gone up 50% in a year. The ONS says inflation is 11.1%. Turns out they partially base that number on such essential products as cat collars, men's formal jackets, boats and "Nanny fees". : LateStageCapitalism
[02:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], ^
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-161122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-161122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-161122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-161122.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 16, 2022
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-161122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-161122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-161122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-161122.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 16, 2022
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-161122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-161122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-161122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-161122.txt
[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 16, 2022
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-161122.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-161122.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-161122.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-161122.txt
[02:42]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 16, 2022
[02:42]	DaemonFC	Republicans: Abortion is illegal. Wouldn't want to deny you all the experience of $60 cans of individually anti-theft wrapped infant formula.
[02:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, It was about $12 a can when my mom had my brother in 1993, and it was a bigger can.
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[02:43]	DaemonFC	But she won't acknowledge that there are really bad problems today with having children.
[02:44]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-11-16.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-11-16.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:45]	DaemonFC	She had some formula to return to the grocery store because my brother had started eating solid and semi-solid food, and the woman got all hateful with her and said "I am so tired of you WIC moms coming in here and trying to get cash for this!".
[02:45]	DaemonFC	Which is actually pretty funny, looking back. Mom wasn't on WIC, but at least she got the experience of being humiliated in front of the entire town doing their groceries as if she was poor.
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[02:48]	geert	quite sad misery with them 'fellows' to try humiliate another person based on such criteria
[02:56]	AdmFubar	and so will everyone else  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/16/musk-twitter-reduce-time-handover
[02:56]	TR Bot	 Musk testifies he will reduce time at Twitter and eventually hand over reins | Twitter | The Guardian
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[03:02]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   173677 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43476      Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 3 months 13 days ago
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[03:04]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:08]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/yx0ami/dnf_search/
[03:08]	TR Bot	 dnf search : linuxmasterrace
[03:12]	AdmFubar	https://www.thedailybeast.com/fallen-ftx-crypto-billionaire-sam-bankman-frieds-wild-admission-in-new-interview?source=articles&via=rss
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Fallen FTX Crypto Billionaire Sam Bankman-Frieds Wild Admission in New Interview
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, November 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
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[04:11]	TR News	"It feels like the era of the original giants is coming to an end. The network effect will surely keep Twitter and Facebook around for years to come in one form or another, but in November 2022, the old monolithic platforms are fracturing." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-11_mastodo.gmi
[04:12]	TR News	SCO vs Linux. "I use the RECAP plugin, which is available here: free.law/recap Uploads actually go to the RECAP archive, which I imagine is where courtlistener fetches them from." https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/390/xinuos-deja-all-over-again
[04:12]	TR Bot	 Xinuos - It's deja vu all over again | GroktheLaw
[04:13]	TR News	Feature Comparison https://xkcd.com/2699/
[04:13]	TR Bot	Feature Comparison
[04:16]	TR News	Trying my best to explain why note application are better than file systems, badly. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2vMp1XKBbM0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/2vMp1XKBbM0
[04:16]	TR Bot	 Trying my best to explain why note application are better than file systems, badly. - Invidious
[04:17]	TR News	"I loved space as a kid. I grew up during the space shuttle program, which looking back on it I don't think I appreciated how cool it was." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-11-16-artemis-i.gmi
[04:18]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D415.jpg
[04:18]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D757.jpg
[04:19]	TR News	"I haven't been able to update the gemini version of this blog for the past few months because of some bug causing new posts to not be added to the `index.gmi` file." gemini://milddermatographia.com/post/gemini-fix/index.gmi
[04:20]	TR News	Hike: Brienzer Rothorn gemini://milddermatographia.com/post/hike-brienzer-rothorn/index.gmi
[04:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[04:20]	TR News	"The Perl Food::Ratio module calculates ratios of ingredients and groups of ingredients, and allows the measurement to be recalculated based on a given weight for a given ingredient" gemini://thrig.me/blog/2022/11/16/ultima-ratio-coquorum.gmi
[04:22]	TR News	"A list of 10 things you can do after installing Fedora 37 Workstation Edition. This is a curated list specifically for the Fedora 37 release." https://www.debugpoint.com/10-things-to-do-fedora-37-after-install/
[04:22]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/10-things-to-do-fedora-37-after-install/ )
[04:25]	TR News	AlmaLinux 9.1 Release Notes https://wiki.almalinux.org/release-notes/9.1.html#installation-instructions
[04:25]	TR Bot	 9.1 | AlmaLinux Wiki
[04:28]	TR News	 (NEW): AlmaLinux 9.1 - Now Available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/AlmaLinux_9_1_Now_Available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/AlmaLinux_9_1_Now_Available.gmi 
[04:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines AlmaLinux 9.1 - Now Available
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: ^
[04:34]	TR News	Walmart COVID Leave Policy doesn't pay employees if they get COVID. | BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/walmart-covid-leave-policy-doesnt-pay-employees-if-they-get-covid/ Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer) | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/walmart-covid-leave-policy-doesnt-pay-employees-if-they-get-covid/
[04:34]	TR Bot	 Walmart COVID Leave Policy doesnt pay employees if they get COVID. | BaronHK's Rants
[04:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Rocky Linux 8.7 Available Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Rocky_Linux_8_7_Available_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Rocky_Linux_8_7_Available_Now.gmi 
[04:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Rocky Linux 8.7 Available Now
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[04:41]	TR News	Bodhi 7.0.0-alpha2 is out https://bodhilinux.boards.net/ https://www.bodhilinux.com/ https://bodhilinux.boards.net/thread/1263/bodhi-linux-7-alpha
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Home | Bodhi Linux Forums
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Bodhi: The Enlightened Linux Distribution
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Bodhi Linux 7.0 alpha | Bodhi Linux Forums
[04:42]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos/Shows: Ardour, FlightGear, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Videos_Shows_Ardour_FlightGear_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_and_Mor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Videos_Shows_Ardour_FlightGear_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_and_Mor.gmi 
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Ardour, FlightGear, The Linux Link Tech Show, and More
[04:42]	TR News	 (NEW): Distribution Release: ALT KWorkstation 10.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Distribution_Release_ALT_KWorkstation_10_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Distribution_Release_ALT_KWorkstation_10_1.gmi 
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Distribution Release: ALT KWorkstation 10.1
[04:43]	TR News	RebornOS 2022.11.13 is out https://www.rebornos.org/
[04:43]	TR Bot	 Home - RebornOS
[04:48]	TR News	21 Best Things To Do After Installing Fedora Linux 37 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-things-to-do-after-installing-fedora/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-things-to-do-after-installing-fedora/
[04:48]	TR Bot	 21 Best Things To Do After Installing Fedora Linux 37
[04:52]	TR News	FOSSlife Team helps promote the lie that Microsoft is the king and spokesperson of what it is attacking. GitHub is proprietary software, it's an affont to Open Source, it doesn't speak for it. https://www.fosslife.org/state-open-source-strong-says-github-report
[04:52]	TR Bot	 The State of Open Source Is Strong, Says GitHub Report
[04:52]	TR News	FOSSlife Team basically celebrates Microsoft market share and proprietary market capsule, i.e. the very opposite of FOSS.
[04:54]	TR News	The numbers from Microsoft are highly misleading; for example, people who quit or deleted their GitHub accounts are still being counted.
[04:55]	TR News	Mixed messaging from the "open source" crowd: we like open, so we celebrate Microsoft, proprietary software, ICE, and GPL violations
[04:55]	TR News	"Just like last year, I'm doing a dev release of Perl, this time version 5.37.6." http://blogs.perl.org/users/max_maischein/2022/11/live-streaming-the-release-of-perl-5376.html
[04:55]	TR Bot	streaming the release of Perl 5.37.6 | Max Maischein [blogs.perl.org]
[04:56]	TR News	"As sponsors, we are proud to support an event that truly desires to engage all levels of open source knowledge; there are even workshops for children to dabble in!" https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/seizing-knowledge-at-capitole-du-libre.html
[04:56]	TR Bot	 Seizing knowledge at Capitole du Libre
[04:57]	TR News	Nothing says "open" like... Amazon? https://sfconservancy.org/news/2022/nov/16/omotola-sca-award/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/outreachy-funding/
[04:57]	TR Bot	 Outreachy employee Omotola wins award - Software Freedom Conservancy
[04:57]	TR Bot	 Diversity Funding From Enablers of Adolf Hitler (Not a Joke, Not Even Funny) | Techrights
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[04:59]	TR News	When Microsoft front group OSI (and Microsoft shill Stefano Maffull) does not promote proprietary GitHub and GPL violations it is posting as "open"; it also deplatforms critics in Twitter https://blog.opensource.org/how-osi-got-to-mastodon/
[04:59]	TR Bot	 How OSI got to Mastodon - Voices of Open Source
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[05:00]	TR News	OSI Might be Using COVID-19 to Report Their Critics to Twitter (for Suspension) http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/osi-censorship/
[05:00]	TR Bot	 OSI Might be Using COVID-19 to Report Their Critics to Twitter (for Suspension) | Techrights
[05:01]	TR News	 (NEW): Wayland: i3 to Sway migration http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Wayland_i3_to_Sway_migration.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Wayland_i3_to_Sway_migration.gmi 
[05:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Wayland: i3 to Sway migration
[05:01]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[05:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[05:02]	TR News	Digitize your old slides with a modern DSLR camera | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/17/digitize-your-old-slides-with-a-modern-dslr-camera/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/17/digitize-your-old-slides-with-a-modern-dslr-camera/
[05:02]	TR Bot	 Digitize your old slides with a modern DSLR camera | Arduino Blog
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[05:03]	TR News	OSI speaks for Open Source like Microsoft speaks for Open Source. OSI speaks for Microsoft. http://techrights.org/2022/11/03/osi-attacks-free-software/
[05:03]	TR Bot	 Open Source Initiative (OSI) Continues to Cover Up for Microsofts GPL Violation Machine (Spiced Up as HI) | Techrights
[05:05]	TR News	A report from the 2022 Image-Based Linux Summit [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/912774/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/912774/
[05:05]	TR Bot	report from the 2022 Image-Based Linux Summit [LWN.net]
[05:05]	TR News	Better CPU selection for timer expiration [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/913568/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/913568/
[05:05]	TR Bot	CPU selection for timer expiration [LWN.net]
[05:14]	TR News	 (NEW): LWN on Linux Kernel: Performance, Timers, and 2022 Image-Based Linux Summit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/LWN_on_Linux_Kernel_Performance_Timers_and_2022_Image_Based_Lin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/LWN_on_Linux_Kernel_Performance_Timers_and_2022_Image_Based_Lin.gmi 
[05:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LWN on Linux Kernel: Performance, Timers, and 2022 Image-Based Linux Summit
[05:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[05:20]	TR News	 (NEW): Security and DRM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Security_and_DRM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Security_and_DRM.gmi 
[05:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and DRM
[05:21]	TR News	 (NEW): Fedora/Red Hat: F37 Election Nominations, 21 Best Things To Do After Installing Fedora Linux 37, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Fedora_Red_Hat_F37_Election_Nominations_21_Best_Things_To_Do_Af.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Fedora_Red_Hat_F37_Election_Nominations_21_Best_Things_To_Do_Af.gmi 
[05:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fedora/Red Hat: F37 Election Nominations, 21 Best Things To Do After Installing Fedora Linux 37, and More
[05:21]	TR News	StarFighter Linux Linux laptop goes up for pre-order with Intel or AMD and QHD or 4K display options - Liliputing https://liliputing.com/starfighter-linux-linux-laptop-goes-up-for-pre-order-with-intel-or-amd-and-qhd-or-4k-display-options/ Source: Liliputing
[05:21]	TR Bot	Linux Linux laptop goes up for pre-order with Intel or AMD and QHD or 4K display options - Liliputing
[05:22]	TR News	net2.com used to cover GNU/Linux. Now it's 90%+ webspam.
[05:23]	TR News	Obligatory webspam (marketing) from Sam Varghese? Seems like an ad, not reporting. https://itwire.com/people-moves/cx-firm-cyara-appoints-two-executives-in-push-for-global-growth.html
[05:23]	TR Bot	- CX firm Cyara appoints two executives in push for global growth
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[05:24]	TR News	"Arduino has recently announced the Opta micro PLC with industrial IoT capabilities adding yet another solution to the Arduino Pro family." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/17/arduino-opta-micro-plc-industrial-iot-applications/
[05:24]	TR Bot	 Arduino Opta is a micro PLC for industrial IoT applications - CNX Software
[05:31]	TR News	 (NEW): Why Decentralised ID Wont Work http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Why_Decentralised_ID_Won_t_Work.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Why_Decentralised_ID_Won_t_Work.gmi 
[05:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Why Decentralised ID Wont Work
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[05:32]	TR News	 (NEW): Arduino: New Product and New DSLR Project http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Arduino_New_Product_and_New_DSLR_Project.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Arduino_New_Product_and_New_DSLR_Project.gmi 
[05:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Arduino: New Product and New DSLR Project
[05:32]	reptilian_thrills	roy should get a tattoo of tux
[05:32]	TR News	 (NEW): Madeline Peck: 11/16/22 Status Update [on Fedora Design/Artwork] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Madeline_Peck_11_16_22_Status_Update_on_Fedora_Design_Artwork.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Madeline_Peck_11_16_22_Status_Update_on_Fedora_Design_Artwork.gmi 
[05:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Madeline Peck: 11/16/22 Status Update [on Fedora Design/Artwork]
[05:37]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR], oh thats cool :)
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[05:39]	NoseAndy	My Nose has seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
[05:39]	NoseAndy	My Nose has seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
[05:39]	TR News	Links 17/11/2022: Rocky Linux 8.7 and AlmaLinux 9.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/almalinux-9-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/almalinux-9-1/
[05:39]	TR Bot	 Links 17/11/2022: Rocky Linux 8.7 and AlmaLinux 9.1 | Techrights
[05:39]	NoseAndy	My Nose has seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
[05:40]	NoseAndy	His nose will conquor all!
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[05:41]	TR News	 (NEW): Microsoft Front Groups and Proponents of Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Microsoft_Front_Groups_and_Proponents_of_Entrapment_Microsoft_G.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Microsoft_Front_Groups_and_Proponents_of_Entrapment_Microsoft_G.gmi 
[05:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microsoft Front Groups and Proponents of Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub)
[05:41]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[05:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[05:43]	TR News	Open Harassment Period gemini://jdcard.com/blog/2022-11-16T17-20.gmi
[05:46]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi 
[05:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
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[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:23]	TR News	 (NEW): Valve Releases New Stable Steam Client Update with New Big Picture Mode http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Valve_Releases_New_Stable_Steam_Client_Update_with_New_Big_Pict.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Valve_Releases_New_Stable_Steam_Client_Update_with_New_Big_Pict.gmi 
[06:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Valve Releases New Stable Steam Client Update with New Big Picture Mode
[06:26]	TR News	"SSH is a well-known mechanism for accessing remote computers in a secure way" https://lwn.net/Articles/913971/ | Source: LWN
[06:26]	TR Bot	certificates for SSH authentication [LWN.net]
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[06:26]	TR News	"Using the viewport unit vh in desktop browsers is usually straight-forward" https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day38/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[06:26]	TR Bot	 Day 38: vh, svh, lvh, and dvh - Manuel Matuzovi
[06:26]	TR News	"We provide a multi-building wireless network to the department" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/WirelessLivenessMonitoring | Source: uni Toronto
[06:26]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/WirelessLivenessMonitoring
[06:26]	TR News	"Yeah no, there are a lot of them. Frustratingly many, in fact." https://prefetch.eu/blog/2022/website-adventures-generators/ |
[06:26]	TR Bot	 Adventures in making this website: static site generation | Prefetch
[06:27]	TR News	"Someone recently told me a project isnt real until you do a retrospective" https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/lpl/ | Source: Hillel Wayne
[06:27]	TR Bot	 Let's Prove Leftpad Hillel Wayne
[06:27]	TR News	"Im a big believer in the value of aggregation" https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/lets-prove-leftpad-content-aggregation/ | Source: Buttondown
[06:27]	TR Bot	 Let's Prove Leftpad; Content Aggregation Buttondown
[06:27]	TR News	"Fedora 37 is out today." https://www.talospace.com/2022/11/fedora-37.html | Source: Talospace
[06:27]	TR Bot	 Fedora 37
[06:28]	TR News	"Recently I was doing some benchmarking on my Ubuntu 22.04 PC" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/ubuntus-settings-wont-open-after-setting-cpu-performance | Source: Jeff Geerling
[06:28]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu's settings won't open after setting CPU to 'performance' | Jeff Geerling
[06:29]	TR News	"All of these smart devices have Operating Systems, regardless of how much or how little of them are exposed to the user." https://klarasystems.com/articles/the-role-of-operating-systems-in-iot/ | Source: Klara
[06:29]	TR Bot	 The Role of Operating Systems in Iot - Klara Inc.
[06:29]	TR News	"A long long time ago on a server far away there was a website called Board-DB" https://blog.brixit.nl/finding-an-sbc/ | Source: Martijn Braam
[06:29]	TR Bot	 Finding an SBC
[06:29]	TR News	"The researchers trained the robot with 4,000 clones of it in a simulator" https://www.scs.cmu.edu/news/2022/visual-locomotion |
[06:29]	TR Bot	 A Low-Cost Robot Ready for Any Obstacle
[06:30]	TR News	"This approach might seem rudimentary, but it is quite effective." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/11/17/digitize-your-old-slides-with-a-modern-dslr-camera/ | Source: Arduino
[06:30]	TR Bot	 Digitize your old slides with a modern DSLR camera | Arduino Blog
[06:31]	TR News	Chrome is just malware, created by a Pentagon-backed espionage conglomerate. Don't use it. https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/mastodon-users-vulnerable-to-password-stealing-attacks | Source: Port Swigger
[06:31]	TR Bot	 Mastodon users vulnerable to password-stealing attacks | The Daily Swig
[06:31]	TR News	"Whats interesting about this history is how each step asked: how do we fix whats inadequate with our current situation?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/remix-alternate-timeline-of-web-dev/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
[06:31]	TR Bot	 Remix and the Alternate Timeline of Web Development - Jim Nielsens Blog
[06:32]	TR News	"How to make a connected scatter plot in R?" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/11/how-to-make-a-connected-scatter-plot-in-r/ | Source: Rlang
[06:32]	TR Bot	to make a connected scatter plot in R? | R-bloggers
[06:32]	TR News	"Let me tell you how it was to ship a product out to half a million people back in 1999." https://arjenwiersma.nl/posts/20221116-deployment-anxiety/index.html | Source: Arjen Wiersma
[06:33]	TR Bot	 Deployment anxiety
[06:33]	TR News	"It's time for me to leave GitHub behind and move to another forge." https://ntietz.com/blog/moving-off-github/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
[06:33]	TR Bot	 I'm moving my projects off GitHub | nicholas@web
[06:33]	TR News	"After stumbling upon Gautham's APE Python port and seeing how far along the Cosmopolitan Libc has come along" https://computoid.com/posts/Perl-is-Actually-Portable.html |
[06:33]	TR Bot	is Actually Portable | Computoid
[06:33]	TR News	"RStudio has been emphasising that its commercial products are bilingual for both R and Python for many years." https://analyticsindiamag.com/is-python-slowly-eating-r-the-reason-why-rstudio-became-posit/ | Source: AIM
[06:33]	TR Bot	 Is Python Slowly Eating R? The Reason Why RStudio Became Posit
[06:34]	TR News	analyticsindiamag = Microsoft boosters; intentionally avoids mentioning microsoft https://analyticsindiamag.com/the-rise-of-indian-witch-and-the-fall-of-us-faang/
[06:34]	TR Bot	 The Rise of Indian WITCH and the Fall of US FAANG
[06:36]	TR News	iophk: wolt is a "gig economy" assault on a living wage; technically it is an illegal operation but convinces key politicians to leave it alone by playing up various fallacies https://blog.wolt.com/engineering/2022/11/10/optimizing-ssr-memory-usage-on-wolt-com/
[06:36]	TR Bot	 Optimizing SSR Memory Usage on wolt.com - Wolt Blog
[06:37]	TR News	Poor Waltons... https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/walmart-covid-leave-policy-doesnt-pay-employees-if-they-get-covid/
[06:37]	TR Bot	 Walmart COVID Leave Policy doesnt pay employees if they get COVID. | BaronHK's Rants
[06:38]	TR News	iophk: the payback against journalists might be an additional reason for the decrease in reporting https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-investigated-journalists-for-insider-trading-stalking-1234630795/
[06:38]	TR Bot	 DOJ Investigated Journalists for Insider Trading, Stalking and Worse Rolling Stone
[06:38]	TR News	'Linux' Foundation is increasingly behaving like Microsoft offshoot! https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/11/16/microsoft-security-guidelines-for-open-source-software-adopted-by-openssf.aspx
[06:38]	TR Bot	Security Guidelines for Open Source Software Adopted by OpenSSF -- Redmondmag.com
[06:39]	TR News	With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[06:39]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
[06:39]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The Paxlovid seems to have helped.
[06:39]	DaemonFC	Mandy's doing better today.
[06:39]	TR News	Police: At least 2,000 Finnish victims of international crypto scam | News | Yle Uutiset https://yle.fi/a/3-12677899 Source: YLE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yle.fi/a/3-12677899
[06:39]	TR Bot	 Police: At least 2,000 Finnish victims of international crypto scam | News | Yle Uutiset
[06:40]	DaemonFC	My insurance covered a pile of COVID tests for me. I plan to monitor myself over the next week or so.
[06:40]	TR News	BAD: RTL Today - More Today!: Want more of us and the radio crew? We're now on TikTok! https://today.rtl.lu/entertainment/news/a/1983070.html
[06:40]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - More Today!: Want more of us and the radio crew? We're now on TikTok!
[06:41]	TR News	As if Twitter and Facebook weren't a problem; they single out tiktok because... "CHINA!" https://www.cbsnews.com/video/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-united-states-60-minutes/
[06:41]	TR Bot	 TikTok in China versus the United States | 60 Minutes - CBS News
[06:41]	TR News	[And society will be better off] Amazon Will Reportedly Lay Off 10,000 Employees - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/11/16/1228238 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/11/16/1228238
[06:41]	TR Bot	 Amazon Will Reportedly Lay Off 10,000 Employees - SoylentNews
[06:41]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: tests are not prevention
[06:42]	DaemonFC	No, they're not. But....
[06:42]	DaemonFC	They can tell me if I need to drive down to a test and treat center and get some Paxlovid.
[06:42]	DaemonFC	Put the fire out before it really gets going.
[06:43]	TR News	TecMint posting utter junk; site deteriorates https://www.tecmint.com/high-paying-it-skills/
[06:43]	TR Bot	 10 Most High-Paying IT Skills To Master This Year
[06:43]	TR News	Though it still RE-runs good old things every now and then: "grep is a powerful file pattern searcher that comes equipped on every distribution of Linux." https://www.tecmint.com/12-practical-examples-of-linux-grep-command/ | Source: TecMint
[06:43]	TR Bot	 How to Use Grep Command in Linux [12 Useful Examples]
[06:45]	TR News	"The Bible is now available on Steam" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/thousands-of-years-later-the-bible-has-arrived-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:45]	TR Bot	of years later, The Bible has arrived on Steam | GamingOnLinux
[06:45]	TR News	"flight simulator from Laminar Research that's currently in Early Access and has full GNU/Linux support" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/advanced-flight-simulator-x-plane-12-set-to-fully-release-in-december/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:45]	TR Bot	flight simulator X-Plane 12 set to fully release in December | GamingOnLinux
[06:46]	schestowitz[TR]	who decided that Paxlovid is some sort of covid meds now?
[06:47]	TR News	"Need some more games? Fanatical have put up a fresh 'Slayer Bundle' where you pick from various games and get a great price on them too" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/fanatical-has-a-nice-build-your-own-bundle-with-some-good-choices/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:47]	TR Bot	has a nice build your own bundle with some good choices | GamingOnLinux
[06:47]	TR News	"Rusted Warfare is a great RTS for people who love the classics." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/retro-inspired-rts-rusted-warfare-adds-shaders-new-units-and-other-huge-upgrades/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:47]	TR Bot	inspired RTS Rusted Warfare adds shaders, new units and other huge upgrades | GamingOnLinux
[06:48]	TR News	"With Godot Engine 4.0 slowly approaching release" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/godot-engine-4-0-gets-a-movie-maker/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:48]	TR Bot	Engine 4.0 gets a Movie Maker | GamingOnLinux
[06:49]	TR News	"Future Tech Pack is the next small DLC for Prison Architect" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/future-tech-pack-to-bring-more-gadgets-to-prison-architect/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:49]	TR Bot	Tech Pack to bring more gadgets to Prison Architect | GamingOnLinux
[06:50]	TR News	"To setup an account on Librem One, visit librem.one and create an account, to set up a matrix.org account" https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-setup-encrypted-chat-on-librem-devices/ | Source: Purism
[06:50]	TR Bot	 How to Setup Encrypted Chat on Librem Devices Purism
[06:50]	TR News	"Epic Games announced that Unreal Engine 5.1 is now available" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/unreal-engine-51-rolled-out-with-plenty-of-linux-improvements/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:50]	TR Bot	Engine 5.1 rolled out with plenty of Linux improvements | GamingOnLinux
[06:50]	TR News	"Lets start with the basics." https://ubuntu.com//blog/apache-kafka-service-design-for-low-latency-and-no-data-loss | Source: Ubuntu
[06:50]	TR Bot	Kafka service design for low latency and no data loss | Ubuntu
[06:50]	TR News	"ProtonUp-Qt is a simple and easy to use application that helps you install various compatibility layers on Steam Deck and Linux desktop" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/11/protonup-qt-version-275-released-for-easy-ge-proton-installs/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:50]	TR Bot	version 2.7.5 released for easy GE-Proton installs | GamingOnLinux
[06:53]	TR News	"Great news for Fedora users! Fedora 37 has been released!!" https://ostechnix.com/upgrade-to-fedora-37-from-fedora-36/ | Source: OSTechNix
[06:53]	TR Bot	To Upgrade To Fedora 37 From Fedora 36 - OSTechNix
[06:54]	TR News	ICBM takes Free software and turns it into marketing BS with "INNOVATION". "Where do people come together to make cutting-edge invention and innovation happen?" https://opensource.com/article/22/11/open-source-innovation | Source: OpenSource.com
[06:54]	TR Bot	open source powers innovation | Opensource.com
[06:55]	TR News	To us, it's Freedom. To ICBM, it's free-cost labour, i.e. slaves. No wonder many volunteers left Fedora.
[06:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: The Bible, X-Plane 12, Slayer Bundle, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Games_The_Bible_X_Plane_12_Slayer_Bundle_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Games_The_Bible_X_Plane_12_Slayer_Bundle_and_More.gmi 
[06:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: The Bible, X-Plane 12, Slayer Bundle, and More
[06:56]	TR News	"It is estimated that 0.671.35 billion adolescents and young adults worldwide could be at risk of hearing loss from exposure to unsafe listening practices" https://text.npr.org/1137075615 | Source: NPR
[06:56]	TR Bot	 More than 1 billion young people could be at risk of hearing loss, a new study shows
[06:57]	TR News	"In a turn of events that has surprised many, Remix, a startup that develops open-source web frameworks was acquired by e-commerce website Shopify on October 31, 2022." https://analyticsindiamag.com/why-did-an-e-commerce-website-buy-js-framework-remix/ | Source: AIM
[06:57]	TR Bot	 Why did an E-commerce Website Buy JS Framework Remix?
[06:58]	TR News	"It was a reminder of the absurdity of the fake ID phenomenon" https://www.michigandaily.com/statement/the-real-fake-ids-of-umich/ | Source: uni Michigan
[06:58]	TR Bot	 The real fake IDs of UMich
[06:58]	TR News	"This is not what happened at all. Newspaper proprietors were able to make enormous savings by sacking a lot of typesetters and compositors" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/11/16/microchips-with-everything-an-unpalatable-taste-of-the-future/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[06:58]	TR Bot	 Microchips with everything - an unpalatable taste of the future - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
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[07:00]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Seems to turn it around.
[07:00]	DaemonFC	Cheaper than the monoclonal antibodies, probably more effective.
[07:00]	DaemonFC	They don't like to use those anymore.
[07:00]	DaemonFC	Very expensive.
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], Seems to turn it around.
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	source?
[07:03]	DaemonFC	Seen it several times now.
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	where?
[07:03]	DaemonFC	Family.
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	journals?
[07:04]	DaemonFC	Seems like everyone but me has tested positive for COVID.
[07:04]	TR News	"In their version of TikTok, if you're under 14 years old" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tristan-harris-social-media-political-polarization-60-minutes-2022-11-06/ | Source: CBS
[07:04]	TR Bot	 Industry ethicist: Social media companies amplifying Americans' anger for profit - CBS News
[07:04]	TR News	"Its almost like [Chinese company Bytedance] recognize[s] that technologys influencing kids" https://theglobalherald.com/news/tiktok-in-china-versus-the-united-states-60-minutes/ |
[07:04]	TR Bot	 TikTok in China versus the United States | 60 Minutes - The Global Herald
[07:04]	DaemonFC	I don't know. I was sick for like one night and part of a day then it sort of went away but I never tested positive.
[07:04]	DaemonFC	I tested negative again tonight.
[07:04]	DaemonFC	Weird.
[07:04]	TR News	"Now they dont ship that version of TikTok to the rest of the world" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/nov/9/tiktoks-china-founded-parent-working-addict-americ/ | Source: The Washington Times
[07:04]	TR Bot	 TikTok's China-founded parent working to addict American kids, says anti-social media activist - Washington Times
[07:13]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> I don't know. I was sick for like one night and part of a day then it sort of went away but I never tested positive.
[07:13]	schestowitz[TR]	so you took medication without any illness
[07:13]	schestowitz[TR]	not good
[07:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9.1 Adds Native Firefox Support on GNOME on Wayland Sessions http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_9_1_Adds_Native_Firefox_Support_on_GNO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_9_1_Adds_Native_Firefox_Support_on_GNO.gmi 
[07:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9.1 Adds Native Firefox Support on GNOME on Wayland Sessions
[07:15]	TR News	"threat to our youth online" https://therecord.media/fbi-director-warns-of-potential-chinese-govt-exploitation-of-tiktok/ | Source: The Record
[07:15]	TR Bot	 FBI Director warns of potential Chinese govt exploitation of TikTok - The Record by Recorded Future
[07:16]	TR News	China blocks Facebook. US does not block TikTok. Seems possible China has a better grasp of what social control media is for and what it really does.
[07:17]	TR News	Court sentences Chinese spy to 20 https://text.npr.org/1137220742 | Source: NPR
[07:17]	TR Bot	 Court sentences Chinese spy to 20 years for trying to steal U.S. trade secrets
[07:19]	TR News	"Great Filter" https://futurism.com/the-byte/nasa-scientists-aliens-destroyed-themselves | Source: Futurism
[07:19]	TR Bot	 NASA Scientists Suggest The Reason We Haven't Found Aliens Is They All Killed Themselves
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:20]	TR News	"Lithium-ion batteries show signs that they need to be replaced if they get hot" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/us/lithium-ion-ebike-battery-fires.html | Source: New York Times
[07:20]	TR Bot	 Lithium-Ion Batteries in E-Bikes and Other Devices Pose Fire Risks - The New York Times
[07:20]	TR News	"This has been a long process because just when I started to ask a company to install one, UK electricity prices went absolutely insane" https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/11/16/i-finally-have-a-home-battery/ | Source: Positech Games
[07:20]	TR Bot	 I finally have a home battery! Cliffski's Blog
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[07:21]	TR News	"Paypal-like service already has 150,000 cryptocurrency users in Mexico" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/business/digital-payment-giant-mercado-pago-enters-cryptocurrency-market-in-mexico/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
[07:21]	TR Bot	 Mercado Pago enters cryptocurrency market in Mexico
[07:21]	TR News	"Sheer chaos has surrounded Elon Musks takeover of Twitter over the past few weeks." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/16/technology/personaltech/twitter-exodus.html | Source: New York Times
[07:21]	TR Bot	 How to Prepare for Life After Twitter - The New York Times
[07:22]	TR News	"The coveted Twitter blue tick the new monetisation model for Twitter might be a big win for the company, but has managed to single-handedly bring massive losses to the tune of billions of dollars for companies like Eli Lilly and Company" https://analyticsindiamag.com/twitter-blue-tick-fiasco-eli-lilly-lockheed-martin-others-lose-billions/ | Source: AIM
[07:22]	TR Bot	 Twitter Blue Tick Fiasco: Eli Lilly, Lockheed Martin & Others Lose Billions
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[07:24]	TR News	Misinformation: "Which is why during Sundays nights mass shooting at University of Virginia" https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/11/16/three-things-the-early-bird-got-wormed/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
[07:24]	TR Bot	 Three Things: The Early Bird Got Wormed - emptywheel
[07:24]	TR News	"By some estimates, about a quarter of people who recover from COVID-19 develop symptoms connected to long COVID." https://adf-magazine.com/2022/11/doctors-warn-against-false-information-on-covid-19s-impact-on-immune-system/ | Source: ADF
[07:24]	TR Bot	 Doctors Warn Against False Information on COVID-19s Impact on Immune System - Africa Defense Forum
[07:24]	TR News	Misinformation: "An image that has circulated widely on social media falsely says 15,000 protesters have been sentenced to death." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/misinformation/iran-protesters-death-sentencing-viral-verify-iran-rcna57261 | Source: NBC
[07:24]	TR Bot	 False claim about Iran protester executions goes viral with help from celebrities and politicians
[07:26]	TR News	"ability to access and analyze a quarter of all medical insurance claims in the U.S." https://www.propublica.org/article/united-healthcare-change-acquisition-claims-records | Source: Pro Publica
[07:26]	TR Bot	 What Will UnitedHealths New Trove of Claims Data Mean for Consumers? ProPublica
[07:27]	TR News	Pro Publica moaning about "subminimum wages" while bagging bribes from Famous Criminal Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/missouri-sheltered-workshops-pay-subminimum-wages
[07:27]	TR Bot	 What to Know About Sheltered Workshops in Missouri ProPublica
[07:27]	TR News	"The creator of a popular Tibetan language video-sharing app abruptly announced on Thursday he was shutting it down for financial reasons" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/video-sharing-app-11152022155836.html | Source: RFA
[07:27]	TR Bot	 Popular Tibetan video-sharing app to be shut down Radio Free Asia
[07:28]	TR News	BOYCOTT Qatar World Cup https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-63655870 | Source: BillBC
[07:28]	TR Bot	 Qatar World Cup: TV 2 Denmark reporter forced off air - BBC News
[07:28]	TR News	Musk killing activists, sometimes literally https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/11/hrw-musk-ownership-of-twitter-appears-outright-alarming-for-human-rights-free-speech/ | Source: JURIST
[07:28]	TR Bot	 HRW: Musk ownership of Twitter appears 'outright alarming' for human rights, free speech - JURIST - News
[07:28]	TR News	"Real-time NetBlocks metrics show that social [control] media and communications platforms Twitter" https://netblocks.org/reports/social-media-restricted-in-turkey-after-blast-in-taksim-istanbul-7yNnr0yq | Source: Netblocks
[07:28]	TR Bot	 Social media restricted in Turkey after blast in Taksim, Istanbul - NetBlocks
[07:30]	TR News	"All Quiet on the Western Front" https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/nazi-ban-all-quiet-western-front-film-why-lessons-anti-war-film/ | Source: BBC
[07:30]	TR Bot	Nazis Banned 'All Quiet On The Western Front': The 1930 Film's Legacy | HistoryExtra
[07:30]	TR News	"While still under heavy surveillance in 1998" https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-dissidents-mourn-death-of-top-official-turned-critic/6838156.html | Source: VOA News
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Chinese Dissidents Mourn Death of Top Official Turned Critic
[07:30]	TR News	Everything gets called "misinformation" these days https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2022/11/16/prasad-whines-about-the-misinformation-police-hilarity-ensues/ |
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Dr. Vinay Prasad whines about the "misinformation police." Hilarity ensues. - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[07:31]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> so you took medication without any illness
[07:31]	DaemonFC	I didn't.
[07:31]	DaemonFC	You have to test positive to get Paxlovid.
[07:32]	DaemonFC	So until Mandy is better, I'm going to keep testing in case I need it.
[07:32]	TR News	"Who Do We Want to Own Our Neighborhoods?" https://fair.org/home/who-do-we-want-to-own-our-neighborhoods/ | Source: FAIR
[07:32]	TR Bot	 'Who Do We Want to Own Our Neighborhoods?' - FAIR
[07:32]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM) http://blog.archive.org/2022/11/15/digital-books-wear-out-faster-than-physical-books/ | Source: Internet Archive
[07:32]	TR Bot	 Digital Books wear out faster than Physical Books - Internet Archive Blogs
[07:32]	DaemonFC	I think mjg59_ might actually be able to explain what happened to me. Abortive infection or something?
[07:32]	TR News	"Tax-exempt funding programs would include middle-mile grants" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/11/senators-push-bill-to-make-broadband-grants-non-taxable-by-year-end/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
[07:32]	TR Bot	 Senators Push Bill to Make Broadband Grants Non-Taxable By Year-End : Broadband Breakfast
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	he is not a medical doctor (nor am I)
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	but you should not self-medicate
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. if you don't know what you have and if you have anything
[07:34]	TR News	"Anti-piracy coalition ACE has set its aim on several new targets." https://torrentfreak.com/ace-takes-aim-at-9anime-soap2day-flixtor-other-high-profile-piracy-targets-221116/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[07:34]	TR Bot	Takes Aim at 9anime, Soap2day, Flixtor & Other High-Profile Piracy Targets * TorrentFreak
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	companies and pharmacies (also companies) are eager to sell more and more stguff
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	but not over-the-counter stuff is limited for a reason
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	like fools who 'self-medicate'
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	or get "high" on legal drugs in large doses
[07:35]	TR News	"In August, an Indian court ordered domain registrars including NameCheap, Tucows, Dynadot, and Sarek Oy to disable several pirate site domains." https://torrentfreak.com/registrars-failed-to-disable-pirate-site-domains-judge-orders-immediate-action-221116/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[07:35]	TR Bot	Registrars Failed to Disable Pirate Site Domains, Judge Orders Action * TorrentFreak
[07:35]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> esp. if you don't know what you have and if you have anything
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Well, it's a prescription drug.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	I wouldn't take it if I could buy some because it's premature for that, obviously.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	It's meant for people who have a high enough viral load to test positive.
[07:36]	TR News	"That means that people can tailor and better control their experience of social media, and be less reliant on a monoculture sown by a handful of tech giants." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/fediverse-could-be-awesome-if-we-dont-screw-it | Source: EFF
[07:36]	TR Bot	 The Fediverse Could Be Awesome (if we dont screw it up) | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Maybe I would on an RT-PCR, but if it's not even triggering the quick tests, I don't think I'll bother with the RT-PCR.
[07:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I wonder where all those people found doctors that would prescribe them Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine.
[07:37]	DaemonFC	It's like, I have a hard time getting doctors to do anything, even when it's called for.
[07:37]	TR News	Today's EFF does NOT know what's private and secure; it's shilling Microsoft spyware. Be cautious of EFF recommendations: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/mastodon-private-and-secure-lets-take-look if you want privacy, quit ALL social control media.
[07:37]	TR Bot	 Is Mastodon Private and Secure? Lets Take a Look | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[07:38]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: The generic symptoms associated with covid (the cold-like ones) are largely a result of your immune system responding to infection
[07:38]	DaemonFC	Like, John had the flu, they say go home and sleep it off. Wouldn't prescribe Tamiflu. I got ahold of my doctor and she was nice enough to call some in.
[07:38]	TR News	The EFF Has Been Subsumed by Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/29/eff-and-microsoft/
[07:38]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: So yes, it's entirely possible for your immune system to respond in ways that result in symptoms without you having a high-enough viral load to test positive
[07:38]	TR Bot	 The EFF Has Been Subsumed by Microsoft | Techrights
[07:38]	TR News	Dont Waste Your Money on EFF, Its Not Fighting for Its Original Supporters http://techrights.org/2022/10/29/microsoft-enterprise-frontier-foundation/
[07:38]	TR Bot	 Dont Waste Your Money on EFF, Its Not Fighting for Its Original Supporters | Techrights
[07:39]	DaemonFC	<mjg59_> DaemonFC: So yes, it's entirely possible for your immune system to respond in ways that result in symptoms without you having a high-enough viral load to test positive
[07:39]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: But it can definitely also take a couple of days from symptoms appearing to test positivity, so I'd recommend continuing to test
[07:39]	DaemonFC	It was like, you know, nausea. I didn't vomit but I ran to the bathroom a few times in case.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	Chills, muscle aches, a slight headache.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	Then it cleared up.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	It went on for a total of maybe like 16-18 hours?
[07:40]	DaemonFC	Took some tylenol.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	That was Monday night through Tuesday.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	Then by Tuesday evening I felt better.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	I got really really sleepy the last two nights and ended up sleeping about 12 hours each.
[07:41]	mjg59_	It'd probably be worse if you hadn't been boosted
[07:41]	mjg59_	So good choice there
[07:41]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I didn't know exactly how to time the bivalent booster because we're seeing a winter surge every year.
[07:41]	DaemonFC	But you don't know when. So, you do it too early, immunity can fade, too late and you can get sick before you have antibodies.
[07:42]	TR News	"Governments have always targeted free press workers, detained, arrested, murdered them" https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/journalists-protest-government-crackdown-in-front-of-diyarbakir-courthouse-63701 | Source: ANF News
[07:42]	TR Bot	 ANF | Journalists protest government crackdown in front of Diyarbakr Courthouse
[07:42]	DaemonFC	But I ended up timing the bivalent booster about exactly 5 weeks before he got COVID.
[07:42]	TR News	"The new regulation from the Department of Justice effective Nov. 3 directs federal law enforcement to stop issuing warrants and subpoenas against members of the media" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-investigated-journalists-for-insider-trading-stalking-1234630795/ | Source: Rolling Stone
[07:42]	TR Bot	 DOJ Investigated Journalists for Insider Trading, Stalking and Worse Rolling Stone
[07:42]	TR News	"Cameron and Timpone run Metric Media, Locality Labs (formerly Local Labs)" https://computer.rip/2022-11-16-local-newspaper.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
[07:42]	TR Bot	 Computers Are Bad
[07:43]	DaemonFC	I got it on like the 6th of October and he got it on the 9th I think.
[07:43]	DaemonFC	So about 5.5 weeks for me, 5 for him.
[07:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-33550-z
[07:44]	TR Bot	responses to COVID-19 vaccination by demographic and clinical factors in a prospective community cohort study | Nature Communications
[07:45]	DaemonFC	Going by this chart, we probably got this COVID exposure right when our antibody levels from the booster were peaked.
[07:45]	DaemonFC	It's like throwing a dart and hitting the 100 by dumb luck.
[07:46]	DaemonFC	I was timing the booster based on looking at sewage monitoring. And I noticed a sharp and sudden increase in COVID cases over in Beach Park last month.
[07:46]	DaemonFC	Figured it would do that here shortly.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR] calls Walmart SuperSpreaderMart.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	Why not?
[07:47]	DaemonFC	Damn them for this set of policies.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	It makes it hard to get time off, nobody will pay you, they might punish you if you have vaccine side effects, nobody has to wear masks.
[07:48]	DaemonFC	People come in knowingly sick because they can't afford time off.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, I submitted the evidence that he has COVID and was prescribed Paxlovid for it to the company Walmart outsources their "leave of absence" too.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	He was over here. I said, "Sign this.". He goes, "What does it say?". I told him, "Basically that they're authorized to get ahold of that doctor if they want to question them about any of this.".
[07:50]	DaemonFC	Then at 11 PM I got a thing saying that the case examiner had reviewed this.
[07:50]	DaemonFC	!
[07:50]	DaemonFC	So that tells me that the examiner probably isn't in the US.
[07:50]	TR News	Milk substitute companies are totally exploitation shrinkflation in the milk industry. What is THEIR excuse? In 'Free Market' capitalism we're meant to think the government plays no role in crushing price-fixing cartels, arresting perpetrators if necessary?
[07:50]	DaemonFC	Walmart has probably outsourced it to the Philippines or something.
[07:50]	DaemonFC	Why not? They read English.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> People come in knowingly sick because they can't afford time off.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	the worst part
[07:52]	DaemonFC	Yup
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	it's also why paid sick leave exists
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	people are misled by it
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	they think it's employetrs being kind to workers
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it's for employers not to protect workers
[07:53]	DaemonFC	There's nothing wrong with demanding proof you tested positive for COVID to get the sick leave.
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	but to maximaise "productivity"
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	by putting people in penalty boxes
[07:53]	DaemonFC	But they should have to pay you and give the leave once you've done that.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	walmart shot its own foot now
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	with many unable to work
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	I heard the same of police stations here
[07:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yeah, I was there today and so many people out sick, Roy.....
[07:54]	DaemonFC	They couldn't even gather the shopping carts.
[07:54]	DaemonFC	Nobody to do it.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	karma
[07:55]	DaemonFC	Mandy asked for some fruits and some orange juice and stuff. I was limited to what I could carry because I didn't feel like going back outside and digging a cart out of the cart corral.
[07:55]	DaemonFC	What the fuck is even going on?
[07:55]	DaemonFC	They're choking on their own greed.
[07:56]	TR News	Civil Right proponents must BOYCOTT the World Cup. Don't watch it, don't read about it. Boycott it. Tell others to do the same. Hit them where it hurts: the wallet (advertising). Only this way they'll get the message. Enough with the sportwashing. https://www.thenation.com/article/world/human-rights-abuses-qatar-world-cup/ | Source: The Nation
[07:56]	TR Bot	 Will Players Help Raise Awareness About the Horrors Surrounding the World Cup? | The Nation
[07:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yeah, Walmart was worried that it was costing them money for a LOA.
[07:57]	DaemonFC	But now it's costing them more.
[07:57]	DaemonFC	The shelves run out. They have half the cashiers they need.
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR]	so mandy asked you to go siuck into walmark
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR]	lovely
[07:57]	DaemonFC	They have to pay employees overtime to stay and fill orders.
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR]	*mart
[07:57]	DaemonFC	No carts, so customers leave with less stuff.
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR]	that's why I try to go to small stores or big ones only when it's very very quiet
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR]	many cough and wear no mask
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR]	and don't distance unless you give them a face
[07:58]	DaemonFC	They had some people stocking the shelves today, schestowitz[TR] 
[07:58]	DaemonFC	Not many and they were using salaried management.
[07:58]	DaemonFC	It's a complete mess in there.
[07:58]	schestowitz[TR]	"PandemicIsOver"
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR]	";GoBackToSleep"
[07:59]	DaemonFC	I went to pick up some hot chocolate because I've been craving some. And they want you to buy it in K Cups now. 24 cups for $18!!!!!
[07:59]	DaemonFC	I finally found it in pouches. 16 pouches for <$4.
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR]	I bought some natural orange juice
[07:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 80.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR]	tetrapack, third price
[07:59]	DaemonFC	Who buys hot cocoa mix in K Cups? Honestly?
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR]	but anyway, walmart is shooting its own foot
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR]	more foot-shooting and we might see some real competition again
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[08:00]	schestowitz[TR]	their OWN policy makes it superspreadervile
[08:00]	DaemonFC	You know, they just need to get smarter about this.
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR]	*ville
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR]	capitalism vs common sense
[08:00]	DaemonFC	Go back to giving you 5 days off. Go back to paying you for 3 days after a vaccine if you have side effects.
[08:00]	TR News	 (NEW): AlmaLinux 9.1 Released with Security Enhancements and Updated Tools, Based on RHEL 9.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/AlmaLinux_9_1_Released_with_Security_Enhancements_and_Updated_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/AlmaLinux_9_1_Released_with_Security_Enhancements_and_Updated_T.gmi 
[08:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines AlmaLinux 9.1 Released with Security Enhancements and Updated Tools, Based on RHEL 9.1
[08:00]	DaemonFC	They can keep more people at work and they won't lose nearly as much money just not being a total bag of dicks.
[08:01]	TR News	"Despite the legal requirement that warrants only be approved when there is probable cause for a crime" https://reason.com/2022/11/14/police-killed-an-autistic-teenager-then-they-filed-search-warrants-looking-for-past-bad-behavior/ | Source: Reason
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Louisiana Cops Killed An Autistic Teen Then Filed Search Warrants for His School Records
[08:01]	TR News	These companies ran an experiment: Pay workers their full salary to work fewer days https://text.npr.org/1136039542 | Source: NPR
[08:01]	TR Bot	 These companies ran an experiment: Pay workers their full salary to work fewer days
[08:01]	DaemonFC	Nobody wants COVID to be happening, but pretending it isn't happening and forcing people to get in there "or else" isn't the solution.
[08:01]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, ^
[08:02]	DaemonFC	Musk used "return to the office or else" recently.
[08:02]	DaemonFC	"Prove your loyalty! Come back in! Spread it around."
[08:02]	DaemonFC	Service workers are at more risk and it's just the name of the game, but you can at least help them help you.
[08:04]	DaemonFC	I try to stay out of Walmart, even though Mandy works there.
[08:04]	DaemonFC	I try to get all my stuff through online pickup.
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR]	"don't drop thew soap. the floor is covid-drenched"
[08:04]	TR News	"Amid this backdrop, the ministers comments struck a dissonant chord with academics." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/talibans-call-academics-return-met-scepticism | Source: Times Higher Education
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Taliban asks academics to return to Afghanistan | Times Higher Education (THE)
[08:04]	DaemonFC	Because me going in doesn't help matters. He has to go in because he works there. Me going in when I don't have to just creates some more risk.
[08:05]	TR News	[Old] "Chinese officials in public meetings held in Tibets Shigatse prefecture are promoting marriages between Tibetans and Han Chinese" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/marriages-05062020165348.html | Source: RFA
[08:05]	TR Bot	 China Says Marriages Between Tibetans, Chinese Will Strengthen Ethnic Unity Radio Free Asia
[08:05]	TR News	[Old] "During their controversial six-decade-rule of Tibet, Chinas Communist Party leaders have been accused by human rights groups of trying to tame the restive region" https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-promotes-mixed-marriages-in-tibet-as-way-to-achieve-unity/2014/08/16/94409ca6-238e-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html | Source: The Bezos Post
[08:05]	TR News	"Now, China has turned to interracial marriage in an apparent attempt to assimilate Tibetans" https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-promotes-mixed-marriages-in-tibet-as-way-to-achieve-unity/2014/08/16/94409ca6-238e-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html
[08:05]	TR Bot	 China promotes mixed marriages in Tibet as way to achieve unity - The Washington Post
[08:05]	TR News	ICBM eugenics http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/
[08:05]	TR Bot	 The Full Story (With References) of IBMs Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights
[08:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The US Senate has finally taken up the bill to formally codify interracial and same-sex marriage.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	It formally repeals DOMA and asserts that the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution means that each state has to recognize marriages performed in accordance with another state's laws.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	It managed to pick up 12 Republican Senators.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	So they voted 62 in favor of taking up the bill.
[08:07]	TR News	Gulag does it again https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/google-begins-refunding-years-of-stadia-purchases/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:07]	TR Bot	Begins Refunding Years Of Stadia Purchases | Techdirt
[08:07]	DaemonFC	Usually you won't vote yes to debate a bill unless you're probably going to vote yes on the bill.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	So it's most likely going to pass.
[08:08]	DaemonFC	Unless the vote count shifts backwards by 3, then they can vote to end any possible filibuster and pass the bill.
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR]	US is not a race
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR]	hardly even a tribe
[08:08]		*KiKi (~KiKi@4qc3338mpcm6n.irc) has joined #techrights
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR]	more like a corporate colony
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR]	with some people flocking there for "jobs"
[08:08]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	first from europe, later other places
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	this colony is not working out
[08:09]	DaemonFC	It's amazing they took this bill up, not because it's the right thing to do, but because of all of this lobbying.
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	the colony operators cannot provide jobs
[08:09]	DaemonFC	Major corporations don't want the US Supreme Court to reverse Windsor and Obergefell.
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	the workers get pissed off and form factions
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	and fight other factions over work in the colony
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR]	pinoys,. chinese, italian, indian..
[08:10]	schestowitz[TR]	the colony is being abandoned by those who have skills and naturaalisation prospects elsewhere
[08:10]	schestowitz[TR]	the morale in the colomy is low
[08:10]	schestowitz[TR]	and worsening by the month
[08:11]	schestowitz[TR]	some dick with painted orange hair says he stands for "Traditional" colony
[08:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he calls himself "MAGA"
[08:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he got some european descent colony workers to rally for him
[08:11]	DaemonFC	Yeah, things are going very badly here, but apparently not so badly that people are hugely receptive to Trump again.
[08:11]	schestowitz[TR]	they think he will kick out all the "broen people"
[08:11]	DaemonFC	That's what makes it so great. He keep coming back and costing them easily winnable elections.
[08:12]	TR News	"new Twitter under Elon Musk may be facing some big challenges from the FTC" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/if-you-thought-the-ftc-was-going-to-fuck-over-elon-just-wait-until-he-learns-about-the-eu/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:12]	TR Bot	You Thought The FTC Was Going To Fuck Over Elon, Just Wait Until He Learns About The EU | Techdirt
[08:12]	DaemonFC	Then when all of the important races he endorsed in go the other way, he says he has a great track record because he also endorsed a bunch of them that weren't even in dispute.
[08:13]	TR News	"Back in 2020, New York City officials unveiled an aggressive plan to revolutionize broadband in the city." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/nycs-once-bold-broadband-plan-now-a-jumbled-mess-of-half-measures/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:13]	TR Bot	Once Bold Broadband Plan Now A Jumbled Mess Of Half-Measures | Techdirt
[08:13]	DaemonFC	Trump managed to bungle his way to not only two more years of Biden's judges, but.....
[08:14]	TR News	Microsoft ICE! https://thedissenter.org/senate-investigation-doctor-contracted-by-ice-medically-abused-dozens-of-women/ | Source: The Dissenter http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Senate Investigation Confirms Rampant Abuse By ICE Doctor
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
[08:14]	DaemonFC	He freed up the Democrats from having to panic and confirm judges before they lost the Senate, and they're focusing on last minute legislation now because they have some time.
[08:14]	DaemonFC	The judges can wait until the next session, because the House won't be doing a hell of a lot anyway.
[08:15]	TR News	"Less Than Half of Republicans Would Back Trump in 2024" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/donald-trump-presidential-announcement/ | Source: The Nation
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Donald Trump Knows How to Win the Republican Presidential Nomination | The Nation
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[08:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The way this ends, of course, from my pov....
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[08:15]	DaemonFC	Is Trump and DeSantis get into a shit slinging contest.
[08:16]	DaemonFC	It ends up being so drawn out and expensive that it goes on forever and they blow hundreds of millions of dollars attacking each other, and then the one that comes out of it ends up damaged with some of the Republican voters.
[08:16]	TR News	The Nation sucking up to the FRAUD https://www.thenation.com/article/society/not-leaving-twitter-elon-musk/
[08:16]	TR Bot	 Im Not Leaving Twitter. Neither Should You. | The Nation
[08:16]	DaemonFC	Ideally, it would be DeSantis that wins the delegates.
[08:17]	DaemonFC	Because Trump won't just go away and bide his time. He'll keep taking swipes and saying he was cheated and don't vote for that clown.
[08:17]	DaemonFC	What's going on right now is that the GOP could be getting ready for a realyl big schism.
[08:18]	DaemonFC	Many of them are now losing their fear of saying what they really think about Trump.
[08:18]	DaemonFC	He's busy on "TRUTH" social losing his mind over like, the Lt. Governor of Virginia.
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[08:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[08:21]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/irc-log-161122/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/irc-log-161122/
[08:21]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 | Techrights
[08:23]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/nasas-mightiest-moon-rocket-lifts-off-50-years-after-apollo/
[08:23]	TR Bot	 NASAs mightiest moon rocket lifts off 50 years after Apollo | WGN-TV
[08:23]	DaemonFC	"Years of delays and billions in cost overruns." Yeah, it's the government.
[08:23]	DaemonFC	They put some weird people in charge of NASA.
[08:23]	DaemonFC	They're worried about the Chinese "militarizing" the moon?
[08:24]	DaemonFC	How the Hell do you "militarize" the moon?
[08:24]	DaemonFC	Are they going to declare war on the moon men?
[08:24]	schestowitz[TR]	you are missing the point
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	the US is rotting and looking for outside enemy
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	to rally the citizens against "foreiners"
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	not the people who carge them 50 cents per egg
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	price gouging is not china's fault
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	if you tell them to quit blame chinba, they call you commie
[08:31]	DaemonFC	The UK is rotting.
[08:31]	DaemonFC	7 Prime Ministers in just the last few years was it?
[08:32]	DaemonFC	~50 days for the last one?
[08:32]	DaemonFC	In the past decade, Scotland got an independence vote and I think it only failed because they organized it so the entire country could vote on it.
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	less
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	less than 50 days
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	we kick out bad leaders
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or they flee
[08:33]	DaemonFC	Then you get another bad one.
[08:33]	DaemonFC	Prime Minister Restaurant Scheme
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe we can do away with the gov.
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	rely on councils
[08:33]	DaemonFC	That would be better.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	You mean toss the monarchy and limit parliament.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	Put them off to the side where you don't have to deal with them so much in local matters.
[08:35]	TR News	dahmerism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/16/dahmerism-the-highest-stage-of-liberal-identitarianism/ | Source: Counter Punch
[08:35]	TR Bot	The Highest Stage of Liberal Identitarianism - CounterPunch.org
[08:35]	DaemonFC	National governments don't tend to solve local issues efficiently.
[08:35]	DaemonFC	They set policies for an entire nation.
[08:35]	DaemonFC	Regions that don't agree with each other.
[08:35]	DaemonFC	No matter what ends up happening, everyone's angry because something has always just not gone their way.
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	EU
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	working for corporations
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	these days it's becoming more obscene
[08:36]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: I'm glad you were able to get Paxlovid so quickly (even if it was far more of a hassle than it should have been) and I hope Mandy recovers soon
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	that even pro-EU people can become rather cynical
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	EU captured at the highest levels
[08:37]	DaemonFC	Thank you, Matt.
[08:37]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: Nobody should be in a position where they need to make a choice between their job and risking COVID, or risking giving it to others
[08:37]	DaemonFC	It's terrible that we're more worried about losing his job in the middle of a fight with Immigration....potential fight.
[08:37]	mjg59_	It's a huge political failure that we've ended up with people being forced to do that
[08:37]	DaemonFC	I've just filed more papers with them.
[08:38]	DaemonFC	This really could not have come at a worse time.
[08:38]	TR News	austerity https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/11/16/dodging-the-health-care-cost-horror-story-of-the-austerity-gang/ | Source: Counter Punch
[08:38]	TR Bot	the Health Care Cost Horror Story of the Austerity Gang - CounterPunch.org
[08:38]	DaemonFC	But that's more of where my fears are than of severe COVID right now because it doesn't look like it's going in the wrong direction from where it was at on Monday.
[08:39]	DaemonFC	<mjg59_> It's a huge political failure that we've ended up with people being forced to do that
[08:39]	mjg59_	Assuming he's otherwise healthy, the risk of serious outcomes in someone who's recently boosted and who got paxlovid promptly is very low
[08:39]	DaemonFC	Well, we've gone from the Democrats making a big fucking deal of it, to the point of inflicting more harm on everyone, and now they're the Republicans.
[08:39]	DaemonFC	"Get out there! Learn to live with it! Btw, we're not paying for any of this anymore and your employer can do whatever they want with you if you get it!"
[08:40]	DaemonFC	"Thanks for the votes!"
[08:40]	mjg59_	Remember that there is a risk that paxlovid might drive the viral load down enough that he tests negative without the immune system having got fully up to speed yet, which may result in positive tests again afterwards
[08:40]	DaemonFC	<mjg59_> Remember that there is a risk that paxlovid might drive the viral load down enough that he tests negative without the immune system having got fully up to speed yet, which may result in positive tests again afterwards
[08:40]	mjg59_	Ideally we'd be doing paxlovid courses that were longer than 5 days
[08:40]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I was reading like 1-2% get Paxlovid rebound like that.
[08:41]	DaemonFC	It would probably be better to up it to at least a full week of doses.
[08:41]	DaemonFC	I think there'd be little increased risk from the drug itself.
[08:41]	TR News	The Nation jumping the shark. Apologists for Musk, now pushing for nuclear power. :/ "Even before Russia invaded Ukraine, governments should have been investing in nuclear power." https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/nuclear-power-debate/ | Source: The Nation
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Should Governments Reinvest in Nuclear Power to Fight Climate Change? | The Nation
[08:42]	mjg59_	It's a combination of the original approval being based on 5 day courses and it being a lot of hassle to change that, and wanting to cut costs
[08:42]	DaemonFC	Well, remember part of it is an approved HIV drug that's just been repurposed, and so those....people with HIV take those for decades.
[08:42]	DaemonFC	The difference between 5-7 days isn't that much.
[08:43]	DaemonFC	<mjg59_> It's a combination of the original approval being based on 5 day courses and it being a lot of hassle to change that, and wanting to cut costs
[08:43]	TR News	"Climate change" (real) has become a catch-all phrase for dishonest lobbyists, who paint themselves as caring for the planet while doing the exact opposite. Greenwashing is a pandemic.
[08:43]	DaemonFC	Cut costs?
[08:43]	DaemonFC	When have drug makers ever wanted to cut costs for you?
[08:43]	DaemonFC	Usually they're in there saying their new pill for bipolar disorder is out and it's $2,700 a month.
[08:43]	TR News	"During the midterm elections, millions of polling stations operated across the United States" MILLIONS? How many stations are needed PER citizen? https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/poll-workers-harassment-voting-rights-ohio/ | Source: The Nation
[08:43]	TR Bot	 In the War Against Voting, Poll Workers Are on the Front Lines | The Nation
[08:44]	DaemonFC	So everyone rich gets Latuda, and I get something that's been around for 40 years.
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	patents
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	thank patents
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	the manufaccturing costs are the same
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	but you get inferior products
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	because "rprecious patents" or s-called "job creators"
[08:45]	DaemonFC	I have a mind that's very tortured and illogical by nature, and I end up taking medication to try to correct for some of that.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	even pfizer employees rebel against the employer
[08:45]	DaemonFC	And so I live out a lot of my time in malaise and disappointment and a depressive funk.
[08:45]	DaemonFC	And then it doesn't help that every time anyone is mad at me they go to that.
[08:46]	DaemonFC	"Well, you're the one that's crazy. You take pills.".
[08:46]	TR News	Here we go again with "deniers" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/16/midterm-voters-decisively-rejected-election-deniers see http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Midterm Voters Decisively Rejected Election Deniers | Michael Waldman
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights
[08:46]	DaemonFC	I try to keep a check on myself by walking myself through everything and forcing myself to think of what the logical explanation is when my mind drifts off into paranoia or something.
[08:47]	DaemonFC	There are features of this that make me wonder if it doesn't border on schizophrenia. The two are very much alike and I have family history of it.
[08:48]	TR News	"those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/16/raising-interest-rates-and-tightening-monetary-policy-not-answer | Source: Common Dreams
[08:48]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Raising Interest Rates and Tightening Monetary Policy Is Not the Answer | Jayati Ghosh
[08:48]	DaemonFC	A horrible sinking feeling that everyone I interact with is plotting against me or that they can hear everything I'm thinking.
[08:48]	DaemonFC	But at the same time, I know it's not actually happening.
[08:49]	DaemonFC	That's actually one of the possible symptoms of schizophrenia. A fear that people are reading your thoughts or are planting their own thoughts into your mind.
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> A horrible sinking feeling that everyone I interact with is plotting against me or that they can hear everything I'm thinking.
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	similar to sleep paralysis?
[08:50]	DaemonFC	I have sleep paralysis sometimes, yeah.
[08:50]	DaemonFC	I don't know if it's related.
[08:50]	DaemonFC	It usually goes "There's someone that just came into the house and they're in my living room right now and I can't move and they're coming to kill me!".
[08:51]	DaemonFC	"They're standing right there in the door frame just where I can't see. They know I can't move so they're just going to stand there for a minute and look at me."
[08:52]	DaemonFC	"But they're going to kill me! Move, damn you, arm! MOVE!"
[08:52]	DaemonFC	And like, slowly I can wiggle my fingers, and then my hand, and then after a few minutes I can move everything again.
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and then nothing happens -)
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	worst horror movie ever :-)
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	you could just go, oh! sleep paralysis again, I'd better get back to sleep
[08:54]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you'd think so.
[08:54]	DaemonFC	It's like my mind isn't working right while it's going on. It can "sense" someone in the room with me.
[08:54]	mjg59_	Oh yeah it's pretty awful - I'm past the point of there even being any dream explanation for it now
[08:54]	mjg59_	Definitely stress related for me
[08:56]	TR News	"The Ukrainian government mysteriously disappeared online records of its fundraising arrangement with the FTX" https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/16/ftx-partnership-with-ukraine-is-latest-chapter-in-shady-western-aid-saga/ | Source: Scheerpost
[08:56]	TR Bot	Partnership With Ukraine Is Latest Chapter in Shady Western Aid Saga - scheerpost.com
[08:57]	DaemonFC	Well, there's been no shortage of things to cause stress in the past 3.5 years.
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	it is all relative
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	seems every country, even china (certainly russia), is pushed to a brink
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	and the % of people in despair is growing very fast
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	also people on verge of hunger
[08:58]	DaemonFC	We're not quite there yet.
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, it grew five-fold during the pandemic and it's still getting worse
[08:58]	DaemonFC	I've been trying to be careful so that we have some padding.
[08:58]	DaemonFC	I knew eventually we'd get COVID and Walmart would fuck us.
[08:59]		*schestowitz[TR] gets urls
[08:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 80.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[08:59]	DaemonFC	And tell us "Hey, just stay home for a week or two without any money!".
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	https://reliefweb.int/report/world/2022-global-hunger-index-food-systems-transformation-and-local-governance-ende
[08:59]	TR Bot	not resolve host: reliefweb.int; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://reliefweb.int/report/world/2022-global-hunger-index-food-systems-transformation-and-local-governance-ende )
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"The number of hungry people around the world has shot up from 282 million to around 345 million since the beginning of 2022"
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/10/1129522
[08:59]	TR Bot	 World Food Day: Another year of global record hunger looms amid food and climate crisis | | 1UN News
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[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	25% increase in 10 months
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.globalhungerindex.org/ranking.html
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Global Hunger Index Scores by 2022 GHI Rank - Global Hunger Index (GHI) - peer-reviewed annual publication designed to comprehensively measure and track hunger at the global, regional, and country levels
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	be thankful you can still buy apples and oranges
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	some people cannot
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	top in chart: Syrian Arab Rep, South Sudan, Burundi, Somalia
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	around 40%
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	yemsn close to 50%
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	chad used to be 50%
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2000
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	now 'only' 37%
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	Egypt and Malaysia <10%
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	14.8% in philippines
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	used to be 25% in 2000
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	cambodia was 41%
[09:03]	DaemonFC	Governments are more worried about internal security than anything else lately.
[09:03]	DaemonFC	For about 20 years actually.
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	so they need "outside enemy"
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	angola was 65% in 2000
[09:04]	DaemonFC	They started using strange language on us.
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	highest in the whole chart
[09:04]	DaemonFC	Department of "Homeland" Security
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	fighting "disinformation"
[09:04]	DaemonFC	Calling the the Department of Internal Security or something would sound too obvious?
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	fighting ticktok
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	ticktok is "9/11"
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	9/11, hence DHS, hence no tiktok!
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	tiktok did 9/11
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, social control has taken a tumble if twitter and FB collapse
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	but they will find soimething else
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	ways to censor sites for eample
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	and ban ssh, ipfs etc.
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	only clown computing permitted
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	with clown act 2018
[09:06]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, Then the Health Department put a barrier to us getting Paxlovid.
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
[09:06]	TR Bot	 EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
[09:06]	DaemonFC	I asked if his NP could call it in and she said no.
[09:06]	DaemonFC	Have to be seen, and no appointments until it was too late anyway.
[09:07]	DaemonFC	So I asked what to do and the lady managing the office says, "Well, we're just telling people to let it run its course!".
[09:07]	TR News	water https://truthout.org/articles/sheriff-retaliates-against-lawyers-scrutinizing-arrests-of-water-protectors/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:07]	TR Bot	 Sheriff Retaliates Against Lawyers Scrutinizing Arrests of Water Protectors
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: this is not early 2020
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	we already found out in later 2020 people get reinfected
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	so this "run its course" thing is debunked
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	over time we also discover about side effects
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/pandemic-of-sudden-deaths/
[09:08]	TR Bot	Blog Archive An Emergent Pandemic of Sudden Deaths in the UK (People Dying at Home)
[09:09]	TR News	"Teaching assistants are paid $24,000 per year" https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/16/ucs-student-workers-cant-afford-california/ | Source: Scheerpost
[09:09]	TR Bot	Student Workers Can't Afford California - scheerpost.com
[09:10]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it sometimes makes me wonder how they could be that stupid and have a job in healthcare.
[09:10]	DaemonFC	But it is the government.
[09:10]	DaemonFC	They deal with clients who go there because they have shitty insurance or none at all mostly.
[09:10]	DaemonFC	So they're sort of like the doctor's office of last resort.
[09:10]	DaemonFC	So you can't depend on them for anything.
[09:12]	TR News	Microsoft(TM) ICE(R) https://truthout.org/articles/video-footage-shows-asylum-seeker-in-ice-detention-being-force-fed/ | Source: TruthOut http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Video Footage Shows Asylum Seeker in ICE Detention Being Force-Fed
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
[09:12]	DaemonFC	When they mostly deal with things like poor people from Waukegan walking in there with the clap, I mean.....it is what it is.
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[09:13]	DaemonFC	Most of their work deals with infectious disease control for the county/state but they also have a sliding scale doctor's office (takes most insurances too).
[09:13]	DaemonFC	The only reason I think they get funded at all is because the rich don't want there to be a "viral/bacterial" reservoir of poor people who endanger them.
[09:14]	DaemonFC	When it's cancer, well, bye.
[09:14]	DaemonFC	But if it's TB or something, nobody wants that circulating around.
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[09:14]	DaemonFC	Could get them.
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[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	"Go get em boy"
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	wait til, organ harvesting becomes more normnalised
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	with people desperate to get money for food
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	then, more 'chavs' dying means more organs "on the market"
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for the rich to buy
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	like they're cars
[09:21]	TR News	PCB https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/pcb-hotplate-has-integrated-heating-element-traces/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:21]	TR Bot	Hotplate Has Integrated Heating Element Traces | Hackaday
[09:22]	TR News	"Courts are cool with pretextual stops." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/immunity-denied-to-deputies-who-tried-to-turn-muscular-dystrophy-into-reasonable-suspicion/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:22]	TR Bot	Denied To Deputies Who Tried To Turn Muscular Dystrophy Into Reasonable Suspicion | Techdirt
[09:23]	TR News	"So far, the biggest genius idea from Elon Musk for Twitter was to try to make people pay for blue checks." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/elons-big-moneymaker-plan-doesnt-appear-to-be-paying-off/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:23]	TR Bot	Big Moneymaker Plan Doesnt Appear To Be Paying Off | Techdirt
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[09:44]	TR News	147 nuts https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/crazy-bike-frame-made-out-of-147-nuts/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:44]	TR Bot	Bike Frame Made Out Of 147 Nuts | Hackaday
[09:45]	TR News	CP/M https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/is-this-the-smallest-cp-m-machine-ever/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:45]	TR Bot	This The Smallest CP/M Machine Ever? | Hackaday
[09:45]	TR News	NSO Group https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/docs-freed-with-foia-lawsuit-show-fbi-misled-congress-about-plans-for-deploying-nso-spyware/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:45]	TR Bot	Freed With FOIA Lawsuit Show FBI Misled Congress About Plans For Deploying NSO Spyware | Techdirt
[09:46]	TR News	"state television channels are promising to deliver a festive mood to viewers" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/11/16/russian-tv-executive-promises-to-deliver-new-year-s-eve-emotions-no-matter-what | Source: Meduza
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[09:47]	TR News	"30-year-old Aleksey (his name has been changed) from Novosibirsk served in the army around 10 years ago." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/11/16/we-were-just-dodging-bullets | Source: Meduza
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[09:52]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO: "Holden said the Disneyland Team domains were made to help the group steal money from victims infected with a powerful strain of Microsoft Windows-based banking malware known as Gozi 2.0/Ursnif. " https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/11/disneyland-malware-team-its-a-puny-world-after-all/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Disneyland Malware Team: Its a Puny World After All Krebs on Security
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[09:54]	TR News	debt https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/16/massive-mistake-alarm-dems-cast-doubt-lame-duck-debt-ceiling-deal raise ceiling = supply more bailouts to corrupt oligarchs: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[09:54]	TR Bot	 'A Massive Mistake': Alarm as Dems Cast Doubt on Lame-Duck Debt Ceiling Deal
[09:54]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[09:54]	TR News	billionaires in power https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/16/left-beat-money-karen-bass-defeats-billionaire-become-la-mayor | Source: Common Dreams
[09:54]	TR Bot	 'The Left Beat the Money' as Karen Bass Defeats Billionaire to Become LA Mayor
[09:55]	TR News	Pantone is back https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/interview-stuart-semple-on-pantone-freetone-colour-and-open-source/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:55]	TR Bot	Stuart Semple On Pantone, Freetone, Colour, And Open Source | Hackaday
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[09:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Canonical Releases New Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Updates to Fix 16 Vulnerabilities http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Canonical_Releases_New_Ubuntu_Linux_Kernel_Security_Updates_to_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Canonical_Releases_New_Ubuntu_Linux_Kernel_Security_Updates_to_.gmi 
[09:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Canonical Releases New Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Updates to Fix 16 Vulnerabilities
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[10:02]	TR News	Fax Machine https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/will-the-fax-machine-ever-stop-singing/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:02]	TR Bot	The Fax Machine Ever Stop Singing? | Hackaday
[10:04]	TR News	COVID-19 still kills many people, directly and indirectly https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/16/13-senate-dems-join-gop-voting-end-covid-emergency-declaration-kick-millions | Source: Common Dreams
[10:04]	TR Bot	 13 Senate Dems Join GOP in Voting to End Covid Emergency Declaration, Kick Millions Off Medicaid
[10:05]	TR News	ticketmaster price-gouging https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/16/break-ticketmaster-chorus-lawmakers-demands-amid-taylor-swift-fiasco | Source: Common Dreams
[10:05]	TR Bot	 'Break Up Ticketmaster,' Chorus of Lawmakers Demands Amid Taylor Swift Fiasco
[10:06]	TR News	Millennials and Zoomers left with nothing but piles of debt (their parents') that cannot be repaid https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/11/16/note-apology-nations-younger-generations-we-failed-you | Source: Common Dreams
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Opinion | A Note of Apology to This Nation's Younger Generations: We Failed You | Thom Hartmann
[10:06]	TR News	"[Applied Science] wanted to make some metal parts with a lot of holes." https://hackaday.com/2022/11/16/better-sheet-metal-parts-with-chemistry/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:06]	TR Bot	Sheet Metal Parts With Chemistry | Hackaday
[10:07]	TR News	Microsoft ICE! https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/16/senate-report-hearing-confirm-systematic-medical-abuse-migrant-women-ice-detention | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Senate Report, Hearing Confirm 'Systematic Medical Abuse' of Migrant Women in ICE Detention
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
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[10:27]	TR News	It's 2022 and some dumb sites like Spamnil's still use the misleading misnomer "serverless". How repulsive and objectionable that liars and charlatans are treated like the more "repesctable" 'web3' 'bros'.... because corporate media officially recognises their buzzwords. We're in for some painful reckoning when people realise "clown computing" does not exist; it's a ruinous buzzword enshrining a trap.
[10:29]	matteobin	What does serverless should even mean?
[10:31]	matteobin	It's not really without a server. It's managed by someone else.
[10:32]	mjg59_	It means your code isn't tied to a specific server
[10:32]	matteobin	*It does not really mean without a server.
[10:32]	mjg59_	The actual real world distinction is that it means you pay per request, not per minute
[10:32]	matteobin	Yeah, I know, I was just being pedantinc about the word.
[10:33]	matteobin	I think the word serverless is confusing. FaaS or SaaS makes more sense.
[10:33]	matteobin	It's just marketing lingo that does not mean what it should mean.
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[10:35]	reptilian_thrills	hey mincer check it out https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/announcing-pygnutls/
[10:35]	TR Bot	 Announcing PyGnuTLS Technical Blog of Richard Hughes
[10:35]	reptilian_thrills	so thats an old story. its just the story of a python library thats now on github, even though the fsd page doesnt say its github-based (as im sure they dont know, or the page was made before it moved to github)
[10:36]	reptilian_thrills	but the really FUN part is blogs.gnome.org wants access to your html5 canvas data
[10:36]	reptilian_thrills	NICE!
[10:36]	TR News	Git concepts in less than 10 minutes https://opensource.com/article/22/11/git-concepts Dwayne McDaniel teaching Git, NOT GitHub (Microsoft's ATTACK on Git)
[10:36]	TR Bot	concepts in less than 10 minutes | Opensource.com
[10:37]	reptilian_thrills	im trying to look at the source to see why
[10:37]	reptilian_thrills	its got jsquery and loads of shit in it
[10:38]	TR News	Sourav Rudra is RUINING "It's FOSS". Now he's promoting WINDOWS garbage, echoing Microsoft vapourware. Rudra will be that site's downfall. Some other writers seem to have left.
[10:39]	TR News	WSL is a dying team and project. Microsoft now resorts to mindless vapourware to TRY to keep it visible, like mentioned in some titles sometimes...
[10:39]	reptilian_thrills	these are the same people who laugh because you dont want mozilla doing "telemetry" and require "geoclue" and who require /etc/machine-id to be provided to dbus
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[10:42]	schestowitz[TR]	matteobin: http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted.../
[10:42]	TR Bot	 Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights
[10:42]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[10:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[10:44]	TR News	Things To Do After Installing Fedora 37 https://fosspost.org/things-to-do-after-installing-fedora-37/ Source: FOSS Post | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fosspost.org/things-to-do-after-installing-fedora-37/
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Things To Do After Installing Fedora 37
[10:44]	reptilian_thrills	oh it gets better still
[10:45]	reptilian_thrills	/usr/local/lib/systemd/user/at-spi-dbus-bus.service <- hahaha
[10:45]	reptilian_thrills	^ not linucks
[10:45]	reptilian_thrills	also not installed by default. gtk brings that shit in.
[10:45]	reptilian_thrills	gtk is microsoft!
[10:46]	TR News	Open letter: Kazakhstan and ISPs must ensure free, open, and secure internet access throughout the presidential elections - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/open-letter-kazakhstan-presidential-elections/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/open-letter-kazakhstan-presidential-elections/
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Open letter: Kazakhstan and ISPs must ensure free, open, and secure internet access throughout the presidential elections - Access Now
[10:46]	reptilian_thrills	now, what stops running if i dont have /usr/local/lib/systemd/user/at-spi-dbus-bus.service
[10:46]	reptilian_thrills	on a system that cannot even run systemd...
[10:46]	reptilian_thrills	(maybe everything that needs gtk, we will find out...)
[10:46]	TR News	#KeepItOn in Kazakhstan: empower people, uphold democracy - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-in-kazakhstan/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/keepiton-in-kazakhstan/
[10:46]	TR Bot	 #KeepItOn in Kazakhstan: empower people, uphold democracy - Access Now
[10:46]	reptilian_thrills	techrights: apathetic or neutral to the takeover of all software 
[10:47]	reptilian_thrills	rofl
[10:48]	TR News	Podman at the edge: Keeping services alive with custom healthcheck actions | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-edge-healthcheck Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-edge-healthcheck
[10:48]	TR Bot	 Podman at the edge: Keeping services alive with custom healthcheck actions | Enable Sysadmin
[10:48]	reptilian_thrills	shutting down gkrellm
[10:48]	schestowitz[TR]	you will end up like herr sixel
[10:48]	schestowitz[TR]	saying gtk is invalid
[10:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and thus anything with gtk is voided
[10:48]	schestowitz[TR]	even a lot in bsds
[10:49]	reptilian_thrills	you will end up like herr sixel <-  saying gtk is invalid <- youre a fucking idiot roy
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[10:49]	reptilian_thrills	go eat your breakfast you spineless twat
[10:49]	TR News	Oh noes! Shopping 'holiday' Black Friday is coming, which means that in the next 7 days there will be a LOT of WEBSPAM like https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/17/international-black-friday-2022-deals-and-coupons/
[10:49]	TR Bot	 International Black Friday 2022 deals and coupons - CNX Software
[10:49]	reptilian_thrills	you will end up spending the rest of your life lying to your own audience
[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	like youve always done
[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	techrights is all bullshit
[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	youre all bullshit
[10:50]	schestowitz[TR]	take a pill
[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	the only time you tell the truth about anything is to pin a lie to it
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[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	why? how will my taking a pill (youre not that kind of doctor, idiot) stop you from being a compulsive liar?
[10:50]	reptilian_thrills	this is your fucking problem
[10:51]	reptilian_thrills	too bad they dont have pills for being full of shit
[10:51]	reptilian_thrills	you lied to me for years about this
[10:51]	reptilian_thrills	and you still pretend to give a shit about users, freedom or truth!
[10:51]	TR News	"engineering" in the job title, but CxO jobs do not involve doing much https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/11/chief-engineering-officer-day-life
[10:51]	TR Bot	 Chief engineering officer: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project
[10:51]	reptilian_thrills	you dont care about any of those things
[10:51]	reptilian_thrills	and you prove it every day by telling more lies
[10:52]	TR News	"Anyone looking for a new role knows that job-hunting is a job in itself." ICBM fired loads of people lately; the media intentionally does not report most of it. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/11/hack-your-job-search-resume
[10:52]	TR Bot	 Hack your job search: 5 tips to amp up your resume | The Enterprisers Project
[10:52]	reptilian_thrills	you will end up like herr sixel <- youre the german here
[10:52]	reptilian_thrills	i think youre more in danger of becoming a nazi
[10:52]	schestowitz[TR]	gtk is gitlab
[10:52]	reptilian_thrills	after all, you condemn ibm one minute
[10:52]	reptilian_thrills	then you 
[10:52]	schestowitz[TR]	not github
[10:53]	reptilian_thrills	 not github <- this is how stupid you are
[10:53]	mjg59_	reptilian_thrills: at-spi is the accessibility service. It needs a mechanism to obtain information about running applications and their UI and pass that through to accessibility agents, which means it needs some sort of communications bus - dbus makes sense here
[10:53]	reptilian_thrills	you yourself said in this channel that systemd is microsoft
[10:53]	reptilian_thrills	i was just saying that gtk is systemd
[10:53]	reptilian_thrills	DO THE MATH, STATS GENIUS
[10:53]	mjg59_	reptilian_thrills: It was originally written for GTK, but it's also used for Qt and pure Java
[10:53]	reptilian_thrills	mjg: this is good to know of course
[10:54]	mjg59_	And it's been around since ~2001
[10:54]	schestowitz[TR]	I am trying already to movee away from systemd
[10:54]	schestowitz[TR]	inc. the new techrights and tuxmachines servers
[10:54]	reptilian_thrills	i mean, regardless of how you frame this i know i can at least count on better technical details from you than roy
[10:54]	mjg59_	All that service file is doing is ensuring that it starts up when a user launches a session, rather than being tied to the system scope
[10:54]	mjg59_	My first full time Linux job was writing accessibility software
[10:54]	reptilian_thrills	at-spi is the accessibility service. It needs a mechanism to obtain information about running applications and their UI and pass that through to accessibility agents, which means it needs some sort of communications bus - dbus makes sense here <- so i get most of this and have no problem with that
[10:54]	mjg59_	So I've got something of an unfair advantage here
[10:55]	TR News	"Open vSwitch (OvS), an open source tool for creating virtual Layer 2 networks, relies in some use cases on connection tracking. The recent 3.0.0 release of OvS included this patch series to improve multithread scalability, which makes connection tracking more efficient when OvS is run on multiple CPUs" https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/11/17/benchmarking-improved-conntrack-performance-ovs-300
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Benchmarking improved conntrack performance in OvS 3.0.0 | Red Hat Developer
[10:55]	reptilian_thrills	All that service file is doing is ensuring that it starts up when a user launches a session, rather than being tied to the system scope <- okay, but
[10:55]	reptilian_thrills	like i want to be clear, i dont think this file can possibly do any harm
[10:55]	TR News	New features in OpenMP 5.1 and OpenMP 5.2 https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/11/17/new-features-openmp-51-and-openmp-52
[10:55]	TR Bot	 New features in OpenMP 5.1 and OpenMP 5.2 | Red Hat Developer
[10:55]	reptilian_thrills	if i dont want dbus, openbsd doesnt need it
[10:55]	reptilian_thrills	im not worried about a .service file compromising me
[10:55]	mjg59_	dbus is solving a real problem
[10:55]	reptilian_thrills	whats hilarious is that i cant get away from systemd no matter what i do
[10:56]	reptilian_thrills	dbus is solving a real problem <- this doesnt change that ive got service files and if i delete them, some apps will probably stop working
[10:56]	reptilian_thrills	maybe all gtk apps
[10:56]	reptilian_thrills	that may not be important even to devuan
[10:56]	reptilian_thrills	i find it amusing
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[10:56]	reptilian_thrills	it simply means that the web browser for example-- will not work without files related to systemd
[10:57]	TR News	iTWire - Lumen APAC chief says firms should be upfront in acknowledging data breaches https://itwire.com/security/lumen-apac-chief-says-firms-should-be-upfront-in-acknowledging-data-breaches.html Windows TCO
[10:57]	TR Bot	- Lumen APAC chief says firms should be upfront in acknowledging data breaches
[10:57]	reptilian_thrills	how significant is that? idk, i take issue with the monopoly aspect
[10:57]	reptilian_thrills	partly because years ago, gnome people laughed about how id never be able to remove gnome
[10:57]	mjg59_	So that stuff is only used if your desktop environment assumes systemd exists
[10:57]	reptilian_thrills	and some azure guy said the same thing
[10:57]	mjg59_	Accessibility services won't work unless you start at-spi
[10:58]	reptilian_thrills	 So that stuff is only used if your desktop environment assumes systemd exists <- ive deleted .service files before, even on devuan
[10:58]	mjg59_	But even Gnome still supports launching session processes without using systemd
[10:58]	TR News	Apple tight with money... https://itwire.com/strategy/apple-ignoring-requests-to-resume-pay-deal-talks,-union-claims.html
[10:58]	TR Bot	- Apple ignoring requests to resume pay deal talks, union claims
[10:58]	reptilian_thrills	 even Gnome still supports launching session processes without using systemd <- but not without at-spi unless im wrong
[10:58]	mjg59_	Gnome prefers using systemd if it's available (it's a lot easier to tie stuff to the user in ways that make sense - eg, if a user logs in twice, you still only want one pipewire process associated with them)
[10:59]	mjg59_	So the service file is shipped in order to ensure it works if you're using systemd user sessions
[10:59]	mjg59_	But if you're not using systemd user sessions, it has the old-style implementation (which means you get two copies running if you log in twice, but meh)
[10:59]	reptilian_thrills	so im about to see what happens to my web browser if the .service file isnt available
[10:59]	reptilian_thrills	because i know it needs /etc/machine-id
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 80.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[10:59]	reptilian_thrills	otherwise it would not be there
[10:59]	mjg59_	And anything that isn't gnome probably doesn't try to use systemd user sessions at all
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[11:00]	reptilian_thrills	And anything that isn't gnome <- oh if i didnt have a few gtk apps i wouldnt have at-spi installed either
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[11:00]	reptilian_thrills	im trying to phase gtk out but that means no browser
[11:00]	reptilian_thrills	so im being realistic about this
[11:01]	reptilian_thrills	wget goes a long way, but not that long
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[11:01]	reptilian_thrills	then ive got 32 lines of this
[11:01]	reptilian_thrills	/etc/dbus-1/system.d/avahi-dbus.conf :)
[11:02]	mjg59_	That's system-wide dbus conf, not anything systemd related, just in case there's any confusion there
[11:02]	mjg59_	Although if you object to avahi because it's originally written by Lennart, that makes sense
[11:03]	reptilian_thrills	thats a separate issue for the moment :)
[11:03]	reptilian_thrills	i have trouble believing (even if its technically true, which i dont doubt) that system.d has nothing to do with systemd, ONLY because of shit in the past
[11:03]	reptilian_thrills	involving both
[11:04]	mjg59_	It's just the ".d" terminology in the same way as init.d
[11:04]	mjg59_	It's a directory full of configuration fragments
[11:04]	reptilian_thrills	im trying not to become superstitious-- at the same time, i feel im dealing with narcissistic developers (gnome devs) who arent entirely honest about these things. thats not your fault.
[11:04]	mjg59_	In this case, system wide config rather than user session config
[11:04]	mjg59_	/etc/dbus-1/system.d existed for like a decade before systemd showed up
[11:04]	reptilian_thrills	system wide config rather than user session config <- i get what youre saying here
[11:04]	mjg59_	And is Havoc's fault
[11:04]	reptilian_thrills	/etc/dbus-1/system.d existed for like a decade before systemd showed up <- ok THATS a good point
[11:05]	reptilian_thrills	And is Havoc's fault <- *processing*
[11:05]	reptilian_thrills	you must mean pennington
[11:05]	mjg59_	Yeah
[11:05]	reptilian_thrills	signed :)
[11:05]	mjg59_	I don't think Lennart had even started working on Linux stuff at that point
[11:06]	reptilian_thrills	lennart isnt even the original person responsible for all this
[11:06]	reptilian_thrills	he may be the most responsible person, even the biggest douchebag about it
[11:06]	reptilian_thrills	but he didnt start it
[11:06]	reptilian_thrills	 even the biggest douchebag about it <- i mean you never won a pwnie for not giving a shit afaik
[11:08]	reptilian_thrills	/usr/local/lib/systemd/ <- this still needs to be killed with fire
[11:08]	reptilian_thrills	doesnt matter if its harmless, doesnt matter if its an empty folder
[11:09]	reptilian_thrills	i stopped using gnu/linux for two reasons
[11:09]	reptilian_thrills	1. to get away from a kernel that will never be forked
[11:09]	reptilian_thrills	2. to get away from everything part of the systemd monopoly that destroyed gnu/linux
[11:09]	reptilian_thrills	and i wont host a folder called /usr/local/lib/systemd/
[11:09]	reptilian_thrills	so lets see if the browser runs without that
[11:11]	reptilian_thrills	ive got one browser running without it
[11:11]	reptilian_thrills	lets try another
[11:12]	reptilian_thrills	good news
[11:13]	reptilian_thrills	/usr/local/lib/systemd/ can be deleted (im sure a number of people already knew that)
[11:13]	reptilian_thrills	it wasnt too hard to test
[11:14]	reptilian_thrills	ive never seen such a demanding (or intrusive) piece of alleged non-malware since windows
[11:14]	reptilian_thrills	now roy will tell people even openbsd needs systemd, even though i just tested it
[11:15]	reptilian_thrills	of course he also spent months telling people you need to use startx to have a gui, just to spite me
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[11:15]	reptilian_thrills	sure, he obviously thinks all his readers are suckers for him to manipulate
[11:15]	reptilian_thrills	otherwise why would he tell such bullshit to every single one of them
[11:16]	reptilian_thrills	when hes been told over and over by people he knows arent lying that it isnt so
[11:16]	reptilian_thrills	simple: to smear bsd
[11:16]	reptilian_thrills	of course he will deny it every day if he lives to be 200
[11:17]	reptilian_thrills	even though i just tested it <- and i knew it was gtk that (appeared to, and in a way that is 100% removable, bring it)
[11:17]	reptilian_thrills	gtk isnt installed by default
[11:18]	reptilian_thrills	he eats a lot of breakfast
[11:19]	reptilian_thrills	hes a growing boy. needs extra cartilage to grow his nose
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[11:20]	reptilian_thrills	mjg: you know he lied to my personal hero just to get back at me for not writing for him anymore?
[11:20]	reptilian_thrills	ofc i mean he lied to stallman
[11:21]	reptilian_thrills	tried to lump me in with you guys
[11:21]	reptilian_thrills	i would say he would say anything out of spite, hes lied about me, hes lied to stallman, hes lied about openbsd-- all to spite me personally for not being his unpaid BITCH contributor anymore
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[11:22]	reptilian_thrills	but its pretty clear that his spite has certain patterns, either limitations or preferences, or just his personal style
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[11:23]	reptilian_thrills	with you of course, he can just say hes doing to you what you did first, etc
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[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	flase.
[11:23]	reptilian_thrills	funny, he cant do that to me. i mean he can say he can, but ofc he actually cant
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	I published what you posted
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	you namecalled people
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and you want me to defend the namecalling
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	rather than the free speech aspects
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	you made enemies in fsf
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and other places
[11:23]	schestowitz[TR]	espp. with the language
[11:23]	reptilian_thrills	youre changing the subject-- and youre lying about what happened.
[11:24]	schestowitz[TR]	and then you are not happy that I poiint out your views are yours
[11:24]	reptilian_thrills	 you made enemies in fsf <- wrong. they made enemies by attacking stallman
[11:24]	schestowitz[TR]	no, I remember very well what happened
[11:24]	reptilian_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> no, I remember very well what happened <- no, youre a compulsive liar who is deluded into thinking loads of people dont realise this.
[11:24]	reptilian_thrills	youve spent 15 years bullshitting
[11:24]	reptilian_thrills	you think no one noticed?
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[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	youre useful in a useful idiot way
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	thats why you have readers
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	they know youre bullshit
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	not just the shills
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	you say its just the shills
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	its also innocent people you fucked
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	for self-serving reasons-- not karma, not justice
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	say what you will about mjg-- youre not much different than your worse critique of him.
[11:25]	reptilian_thrills	hes on the wrong side
[11:26]	reptilian_thrills	youre not on any side at all.
[11:26]	reptilian_thrills	you pretend youre on the right side
[11:26]	reptilian_thrills	but its just for pageviews, you care about as much about this stuff as rupert murdoch cares who wins the war
[11:26]	reptilian_thrills	its just about having an audience
[11:27]	reptilian_thrills	if you were on the right side, youd have integrity. you dont.
[11:27]	reptilian_thrills	youre a backstabbing, compulsive lying, manipulative exploiter of everyone.
[11:27]	reptilian_thrills	you use people.
[11:27]	reptilian_thrills	constantly.
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	you lied to me LONG BEFORE i made enemies at the fsf.
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	you used me-- got me to do free work under false pretenses.
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	youre a slaver. a user. a liar. 
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	then you wait until you have some excuse
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	oh, you only used me because of what happened two years later...
[11:28]	reptilian_thrills	surely a phd can explain how that works.
[11:29]	reptilian_thrills	if you even are a real phd. definitely the stupidest most know-nothing phd ive ever talked to
[11:29]	reptilian_thrills	ive looked into it. i figure its probably a real doctorate
[11:29]	reptilian_thrills	but i looked into it
[11:30]	reptilian_thrills	after all the other bs you told i thought woo, it would be the ultimate "coup" if that turned out to be fake too
[11:30]		*schestowitz[TR] back from kitchen
[11:30]	reptilian_thrills	2nd breakfast? youre like a hobbit
[11:30]	schestowitz[TR]	no, first
[11:31]	schestowitz[TR]	I see a wall of text
[11:31]	reptilian_thrills	your breakfast is invariable timed to when youre being criticised
[11:31]	reptilian_thrills	how do we even know right before you eat?
[11:31]	reptilian_thrills	 I see a wall of text <- youre so lame.
[11:31]	schestowitz[TR]	no, I point out I'm away if it's in the middle of something
[11:31]	schestowitz[TR]	if I say nothing, it's not in the middle of something
[11:32]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, you've been looking for fights latelyt
[11:32]	reptilian_thrills	heed my words little man-- you take on people you lie to one at a time.
[11:32]	reptilian_thrills	they dont forget
[11:32]	reptilian_thrills	there are legions of people who know youre full of it
[11:32]	schestowitz[TR]	I did not lie to you
[11:32]	reptilian_thrills	most dont care, its a joke to them
[11:32]	reptilian_thrills	 I did not lie to you <- theres another
[11:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and you throw fits over things that are otherwise very minor or subtle
[11:32]	schestowitz[TR]	like with oliva
[11:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or with tom
[11:33]	reptilian_thrills	thats a great deflection, is it enough?
[11:33]	reptilian_thrills	maybe keep trying
[11:33]	schestowitz[TR]	being combative over sementics and such will leave you without companions
[11:33]	reptilian_thrills	hell, give if everything youve got
[11:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and I'm not far from where you are position-wise
[11:34]	schestowitz[TR]	this is why I was baffled when you slammed DT
[11:34]	schestowitz[TR]	just because of one sentenced he uttered 2 years ago
[11:34]	schestowitz[TR]	he has not done that since
[11:34]	reptilian_thrills	this is why I was baffled when you slammed DT <- you were in the other channel, talking to techrights-sec about the EXACT SAME CONCERNS I HAVE
[11:34]	reptilian_thrills	i can point to the logs
[11:34]	reptilian_thrills	yet you lie about it now, knowing no one gives a shit about your logs
[11:34]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah, but I did not shun the whole channel over it
[11:34]	reptilian_thrills	theyre like police camera footage. useless to the public
[11:34]	schestowitz[TR]	DT is otherwise not a bad channel
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	he also published political things I don't agree with
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	that's life
[11:35]	reptilian_thrills	DT is otherwise not a bad channel <- its his personal channel for his videos
[11:35]	reptilian_thrills	the idea of "the whole channel" like theres something else to it is ridiculous
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	there is also another issue
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	blogs are dying
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	the www is depleted
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	I say "dying"
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	but you know what I mean
[11:35]	schestowitz[TR]	some post webspam
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	some post nothing
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	some go offline
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and not many come online
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	same in youtube
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	/me watches the actual point slowly fade into the distance
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	not much "Linux" content anymore
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	they don't eant to be "slaves" of Alphabet
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	sorry, im following you, i was just watching the original point disappear
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	*want
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	the one that was about you
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	now its about google i suppose
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	weird how that happened. go on.
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	it was about DT
[11:36]	reptilian_thrills	of course it was.
[11:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and how quickly you can reject things
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	with OSI, watch how I first communicated with stefano
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	also congratulated him
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	he ha plenty of chance to make a good impression
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	with osi, i rejected phipps before you did
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	then he signed the letter
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	buit he's controlled by Microsoft $
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	then you said you didnt care
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[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and OSI has shown iot has no mind of its own
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it's owned
[11:37]	schestowitz[TR]	by Microsoft and others
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	then later you said... roy the reason im more decisive than you-- is i actually made decisions.
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	you just dance.
[11:37]	reptilian_thrills	you dont decide anything, you stay right on the fence.
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	like you did about systemd for 10 years
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	Phipps was snti-RMS long before the letter
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	he only pretended 
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	now you pretend to care
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	we even leaked a letter
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	where he worked with FSFE behind RMS' back so to speak
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	 Phipps was snti-RMS long before the letter <- yes, he said anti-rms things to me personally 10 years oag
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	ago
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	so phipps was always a "weasel"
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	and he was being ableist as fuck
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	but still you wanted "friends" in osi
[11:38]	schestowitz[TR]	IBM, Sun... then what?
[11:38]	reptilian_thrills	 so phipps was always a "weasel" <- im the one btw who pointed out that weasels are close to minks
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	but youre missing the point again
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	i was the one who decided that before you did
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	youre criticising me for being dismissive, overly critical
[11:39]	schestowitz[TR]	when?
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	but i keep being right.
[11:39]	schestowitz[TR]	years.
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	not always
[11:39]	schestowitz[TR]	I spoke to phipps like 15 yeras ago
[11:39]	schestowitz[TR]	and he sent me important info on Novell
[11:39]	reptilian_thrills	and how quickly you can reject things <- i take a long time to reject things
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	if you see the announcement you assume it was on a whim
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	thats not my problem man
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	thats your assumption
[11:40]	schestowitz[TR]	search techrights for "phipps"
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	a lot of times i can point to how long i took
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	search techrights for "phipps" <- i dont even have to
[11:40]	schestowitz[TR]	where were you in 2007?
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	where were you in 2007? <- earth
[11:40]	reptilian_thrills	whats your point
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	there's a long historty there
[11:41]	reptilian_thrills	2007 is the year i stopped using windows actually
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	same with spamnil and sjvn
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne gave up on them ages ago
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it took me years to also give up
[11:41]	reptilian_thrills	when i said phipps signed the letter
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	because of good things they had done before
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	same for phipps
[11:41]	reptilian_thrills	you said you werent mad at him
[11:41]	reptilian_thrills	later on you fell out over something
[11:41]	reptilian_thrills	better late than never, but what took so long
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	i spoke to phipps about a month ago
[11:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it was about microsoft and osi
[11:42]	reptilian_thrills	/me can still see what youre doing here
[11:42]	reptilian_thrills	i was supposed to forget
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	what am I doing here?
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	after the subject changed a few times
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	what am I doing here? <- being you, as usual
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	you basically say I am too forgiving
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	or dismissive of scandals
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	well you started it
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	and others say the opposite
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	you said i was too hasty to judge
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	that we're too stubborn
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	yeah shills say that
[11:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it escalated when you said gtk was not 'kosher'
[11:43]	reptilian_thrills	i mean you usually blame shills for everything, but that doesnt make them blameless
[11:44]	schestowitz[TR]	and I pointed out that going down that criteria level leads us to "sizel" territories
[11:44]	reptilian_thrills	 it escalated when you said gtk was not 'kosher' <- i said that gtk brings in systemd
[11:44]	schestowitz[TR]	he would, not even run gui, I think
[11:44]	reptilian_thrills	in a very small way
[11:44]	reptilian_thrills	 he would, not even run gui, I think <- openbsd forks x, x doesnt need gtk, i think we are good
[11:44]	schestowitz[TR]	firefox still brings pulseaudio iirc
[11:44]	reptilian_thrills	i already make an exception for gnupg (because what if i didnt) and thats part of the damned coup
[11:44]	schestowitz[TR]	and without gafam+moz browser you cannot feasibly access some "sites"
[11:45]	reptilian_thrills	i mean people need gnupg.
[11:45]	reptilian_thrills	its not a luxury
[11:45]	reptilian_thrills	im sure its life and death sometimes
[11:45]	reptilian_thrills	and its got that license that makes everything magically not fuck users or stallman over
[11:45]	reptilian_thrills	and without gafam+moz browser you cannot feasibly access some "sites" <- thats a problem to be solved
[11:46]	reptilian_thrills	you just wait for these things to die decades later
[11:46]	reptilian_thrills	discouraging boycotts, despite the fact that a boycott is literally how you got here
[11:46]	reptilian_thrills	and you do discourage them, though you wont ever admit it
[11:46]	schestowitz[TR]	breb, popsting sdomething
[11:46]	reptilian_thrills	in a number of ways
[11:47]	schestowitz[TR]	https://opensource.com/article/22/11/modern-linux-commands
[11:47]	TR Bot	commands: Drop these old utilities for modern alternatives | Opensource.com
[11:47]	schestowitz[TR]	no gnu
[11:47]	schestowitz[TR]	use github instead :/
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	gnu libc is ibm btw
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	gnu is so dead
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	i still use gnu wget
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	ibm wget
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	its that or microsoft curl
[11:47]	reptilian_thrills	a problem to be solved
[11:48]	reptilian_thrills	libc should not be controlled by a corporation
[11:48]	TR News	Kosmokaryote, the life thereof: [GNOME] GNOME Files and custom file icons: setting album art on directories! https://blog.kosmokaryote.org/2022/11/gnome-gnome-files-and-custom-file-icons.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.kosmokaryote.org/2022/11/gnome-gnome-files-and-custom-file-icons.html
[11:48]	TR Bot	 Kosmokaryote, the life thereof: [GNOME] GNOME Files and custom file icons: setting album art on directories!
[11:48]	reptilian_thrills	i mean, not a for-profit that engineered the holocaust
[11:48]	reptilian_thrills	but here we are
[11:48]	reptilian_thrills	i wonder what phipps thinks of edwin black really :)
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	edwin deny
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	he denies the edwin
[11:49]	reptilian_thrills	mea culpa
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[11:49]	reptilian_thrills	but lets add words-to-avoid which is one thing i never loved about the fsf
[11:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux commands: Drop these old utilities for modern alternatives
[11:49]	reptilian_thrills	only because other people took it too seriously though
[11:49]	reptilian_thrills	ed deny
[11:50]	reptilian_thrills	oh its fine, im not referring to windows
[11:50]	reptilian_thrills	edwin then
[11:50]	reptilian_thrills	other people <- trisquel
[11:50]	schestowitz[TR]	winston: I got tortured for saying 2+2=4
[11:50]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS: I lost my job for saying "they" is plural
[11:51]	reptilian_thrills	picard (ripping off 1984) THERE ARE-- FOUR LIGHTS!
[11:51]	reptilian_thrills	 RMS: I lost my job for saying "they" is plural <- well he insists on using OTHER gender-neutral pronouns than they...
[11:51]	reptilian_thrills	so you cant even say he refuses to use gender neutral pronouns
[11:51]	reptilian_thrills	he only refuses to use the preferred gender neutral pronoun
[11:52]	reptilian_thrills	i can absolutely see how that can still be an issue
[11:52]	reptilian_thrills	but we are being pretty militant about it
[11:52]	TR News	"The curl project builds on foundations that started in late 1996 with the tool named httpget." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/11/17/considering-c99-for-curl/
[11:52]	TR Bot	C99 for curl | daniel.haxx.se
[11:52]	reptilian_thrills	i absolutely go back and forth on this, because its that kind of issue
[11:53]	reptilian_thrills	but both sides of it piss me off too
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	t's  not about tech
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not about linguistics
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not about biology
[11:53]	reptilian_thrills	its about stallman
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	which he studied or could stury IIRC
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it'ds about trolliing
[11:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and it destracts from the technical work he focuses on
[11:54]	schestowitz[TR]	*detracts and distracts
[11:54]	schestowitz[TR]	this is why yesterday when computing freedom was discussed somehow....
[11:54]	schestowitz[TR]	... the topic became rape
[11:54]	reptilian_thrills	oh i saw
[11:54]	schestowitz[TR]	as if one is connected to the latter
[11:54]	reptilian_thrills	and ofc i was there
[11:54]	reptilian_thrills	but i saw
[11:55]	reptilian_thrills	i mean, rape affects the tech community too
[11:55]	reptilian_thrills	it does
[11:55]	reptilian_thrills	the fact that theres no way to deny that does give the topic a certain kind of power
[11:56]	schestowitz[TR]	next stop: debates about file system became about rape
[11:56]	reptilian_thrills	yeah im still not impressed about that one
[11:56]	schestowitz[TR]	because ext4 dev commented on statistics of rape in the US
[11:56]	reptilian_thrills	i read exactly what tso said
[11:56]	schestowitz[TR]	like 2 decades back or maybe a decade ago
[11:56]	reptilian_thrills	and i read exactly how it was represented
[11:56]	schestowitz[TR]	and he doesn't like Bush II, the war criminal
[11:56]	reptilian_thrills	and i was not impressed
[11:56]	reptilian_thrills	and he doesn't like Bush II, the war criminal <- oh theyre both war criminals
[11:57]	reptilian_thrills	if anything daddy bush is probably the worse one
[11:57]	schestowitz[TR]	too late to punish daddy
[11:57]	reptilian_thrills	fair point
[11:57]	schestowitz[TR]	he got a respctable cia funeral
[11:57]	reptilian_thrills	but lets get history right 
[11:57]	schestowitz[TR]	like jimmy savile
[11:57]	reptilian_thrills	 he got a respctable cia funeral <- a contradiction in terms im sure
[11:57]	reptilian_thrills	not as bad as "a respectable nazi funeral"
[11:58]	reptilian_thrills	ive softened just a little on the nsa btw
[11:58]	reptilian_thrills	oh i still agree with binney they should be indicted
[11:58]	reptilian_thrills	and i still think what theyre doing is criminal
[11:58]	reptilian_thrills	but the organisation as a historical fact bothers me a bit less than it used to 
[11:58]	reptilian_thrills	besides, binney is a hero and hes former nsa himself 
[11:59]	reptilian_thrills	but the organisation as a historical fact bothers me a bit less than it used to <- they made me say this, they beat me with printouts of avahi.
● Nov 17
[12:00]	reptilian_thrills	i said please, at least print out the source for awk or something
[12:00]	reptilian_thrills	but they were relentless
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[12:01]	reptilian_thrills	but the cia was just crap from day 1
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[12:01]	reptilian_thrills	stalin had one, i guess they were jelly
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[12:07]	reptilian_thrills	/me thinks it would be amusing to show what would have happened to the irish peace process if the coup had been in charge of fixing the troubles
[12:08]	reptilian_thrills	obviously ian paisley and gerry adams would have been forced to step down
[12:09]	reptilian_thrills	i suppose mjg can take it from there-- maybe arguing that would have actually helped (maybe it would have)
[12:10]	reptilian_thrills	then again, getting gerry adams to "step down" might have simply led to a free for all like it did in iraq-- or afghanistan-- or the fsf
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[12:12]	reptilian_thrills	one of the problems with this metaphor (i consider it a minor one) is that the troubles had good people on both sides, and both sides were doing the wrong thing
[12:12]	reptilian_thrills	and the idea was to get both to stop
[12:12]	reptilian_thrills	with the fsf, they were good people doing good things (at least they used to) and they were up against corporations being "all corporationy"
[12:13]	reptilian_thrills	they were good people doing good things <- obviously every rule has exceptions, including this one
[12:14]	reptilian_thrills	then again, the troubles had mobs on both sides
[12:14]	reptilian_thrills	sending in a mob to deal with two mobs might just start a mob war between three mobs
[12:14]	reptilian_thrills	im sure the coup doesnt see it that way though
[12:15]	reptilian_thrills	either way, mjg isnt the ian paisley of the coup. sarah mei was.
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[12:16]	reptilian_thrills	id have to check dates to see if its possible shes actually reincarnated from ian paisley
[12:16]	reptilian_thrills	if not tomas de torquemada
[12:19]	reptilian_thrills	i mean i never said (or cared) if shes protestant or catholic, obviously paisley would have denounced torquemada as the antichrist, and imo he would have been close enough on that one
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[12:20]	reptilian_thrills	i dont know if he would denounce mei as the antichrist or simply claim his granddaughter
[12:20]	reptilian_thrills	i do know he liked cheddar cheese and pineapple on a stick
[12:22]	reptilian_thrills	i like that roy did all but admit throwing me under the bus to appease the fsf earlier, but now its my fault
[12:23]	reptilian_thrills	actually, the naughty "insults" i took the fall for were actually repeats of things people from the fsf said about other people from the fsf
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[12:23]	reptilian_thrills	things i said that were said by people roy has defended since then...
[12:24]	reptilian_thrills	so i got thrown under the bus to appease fsf people who were insulted by things other people that roy defended (also from the fsf) said first
[12:24]	reptilian_thrills	in other words, if youre from the fsf, you can say that
[12:24]	reptilian_thrills	but if i repeat those things, roy smears me on behalf of the people who didnt like fsf people saying them.
[12:25]	reptilian_thrills	good job, btw.
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[12:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Mastodon, Web Browsers, Web Servers
[12:25]	reptilian_thrills	if you were paying attention, or had a clue, youd realise you had your OWN organisation divided by the coup, and you went along with it
[12:25]	reptilian_thrills	but that only makes you a sucker
[12:26]	reptilian_thrills	in the long run, the people i insulted left anyway
[12:26]	reptilian_thrills	im sure you got some articles out of appeasing them
[12:27]	reptilian_thrills	you only mention what i said to oliva, and speculate (incorrectly) why
[12:27]	reptilian_thrills	you never mention that oliva apologised to me
[12:27]	reptilian_thrills	i dont think he needed to personally. im just saying, your take on it is one-sided and inaccurate.
[12:28]	reptilian_thrills	no surprise there, it was only a smear.
[12:28]	reptilian_thrills	making dt holy ground just makes it more of a farce
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121220.html
[12:29]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, December 12, 2020
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	Techrights-sec By the way, what about DT?  He was off to a good start with the 
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	 first few episozed but is appear                                   Dec 12 03:08
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	Techrights-sec *ing like he's manipulated or o=therwise falling for 
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	 the M$ trap.                                                       Dec 12 03:08
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	Techrights-sec A lot of people wish to appear reasonable and fear 
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	 that calling M$ out for                                            Dec 12 03:08
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	Techrights-sec being as it is will make them look unreasonable.     Dec 12 03:08
[12:29]	reptilian_thrills	now tell me why its such a big goddamned deal that i didnt feel like watching a youtube vlogger after that?
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	wait, i know: it isnt
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	but you started a big smear campaign against me lasting months (through the holidays) over it
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	it was pure hypocrisy
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	and the BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE between my position and yours was...
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[12:30]	TR Bot	 Links 17/11/2022: Considering C99 for cURL and New Security Updates in Ubuntu | Techrights
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	i stopped watching a guy on youtube?
[12:30]	reptilian_thrills	youre so. full. of. shit.
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[12:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Devices: 'IoT', SBC, Low-Cost Robots, and PCBs
[12:31]	reptilian_thrills	it was pure hypocrisy <- 100% pure, like dove soap
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[12:32]	reptilian_thrills	i stopped watching a guy on youtube? <- like the way you put it though " yeah, but I did not shun the whole channel over it"
[12:32]	reptilian_thrills	the channel is just dt
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	note also that when you made a bfd about me not watching him anymore, i had said
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > Honestly, I lost my excitement when I saw him trash Stallman 
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	 during                                                             Dec 12 08:02
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > cancellation in Sept 2019. I didn't find that video until I'd
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	 been                                                               Dec 12 08:02
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > watching him for a while, or I probably wouldn't have started
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	watching                                                            Dec 12 08:02
[12:33]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > in the first place.                                 Dec 12 08:02
[12:34]	reptilian_thrills	but i guess somehow im the baddie for not watching him and dt is JUST THAT GREAT, by the way-- how many more times did you post dt videos on tr after that?
[12:34]	reptilian_thrills	i know it was at least once, i dont think it was many
[12:34]	reptilian_thrills	pure hypocrisy <- 100% pure
[12:34]	TR News	curious
[12:35]	TR News	"My wife and I went to dinner the other day and we got to talking about our old college relationships. We met at work a few years after we'd both graduated; I think we've always been curious about that younger version of us." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1205
[12:35]	reptilian_thrills	might as well make dt videos mandatory and smear anyone who doesnt watch them like i dunno, ghostbusters 3 or some shit
[12:35]	reptilian_thrills	oh wait, already happened
[12:35]	reptilian_thrills	so first im a misogynist for not watching ghostbusters 3 and liking it
[12:36]	TR News	Emulators in Debian Buster and Bullseye gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2020-07-10-emulators-in-debian-buster.gmi
[12:36]	reptilian_thrills	and then im a baddie for not watching some guy who trashed stallman and <3 microsoft and liking it
[12:36]	reptilian_thrills	or at least-- i could have watched his OTHER videos, even though i didnt want to
[12:36]	TR News	"It's mid-November and we've been working on the mortgage and the renovation since January. It's a journey and we're almost done: the kitchen, pretty much the only missing piece, should arrive some time in December, and the leftovers won't take long" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/new-house.gmi
[12:37]	reptilian_thrills	on some world this is reasonable logic. that world only exists in roys head though
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[12:37]	reptilian_thrills	and then im a baddie for not watching some guy who trashed stallman and <3 microsoft <- but the icing on the cake is that roy stopped  caring about him exactly like i did
[12:37]	reptilian_thrills	only im the bad guy.
[12:38]	reptilian_thrills	crazy how that happens
[12:38]	TR News	"And the last person at dinner (Leo) worked with the 19 year old at a coding education nonprofit for teenagers" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
[12:38]	reptilian_thrills	its almost like theres one set of rules for him and a different set for everyone else
[12:38]	TR News	"One of them was 19 and planning on moving to Mexico to work on open source stuff." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
[12:39]	reptilian_thrills	i wonder how that happens
[12:40]	TR News	"Personally, I seek very little social interaction in the real world; the everyday family life is quite enough." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1205
[12:40]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > But just skip to the 5:00 mark and decide for yourself. This
[12:40]	reptilian_thrills	 isn't a                                                            Dec 12 08:02
[12:40]	reptilian_thrills	> schestowitz > recommendation about your feed, it's just a heads up about my
[12:40]	reptilian_thrills	 own. I                                                             Dec 12 08:02
[12:41]	reptilian_thrills	"But just skip to the 5:00 mark and decide for yourself." <- this was part of a "complete rage" btw
[12:41]	reptilian_thrills	you can practically feel the heat from the scathing flames as i said i didnt feel like watching his videos anymore
[12:42]	TR News	"FreeBSD Q3 2022 status report, Leveraging MinIO and OpenZFS to avoid vendor lock in, FreeBSD on Firecracker platform, How Much Faster Is Making A Tar Archive Without Gzip, Postgres from packages on OpenBSD, Upgrading an NVMe zpool from 222G to 1TB drives, Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/481
[12:42]	reptilian_thrills	but this the stuff tr builds its narratives with
[12:42]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 481: Fiery Crackers
[12:42]	reptilian_thrills	maybe thats why reddit bans it idk
[12:42]	reptilian_thrills	(i think reddit just likes banning things, but idk)
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	reddit did not ban us
[12:43]	reptilian_thrills	hacker news?
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	reddit removes and demotes stories
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	same in hacker news
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	some trolls make noise
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	like ICBM staff
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	and then the editor gets contacted
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	bam
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	no reason provided
[12:43]	reptilian_thrills	ah i guess they only tried
[12:43]	reptilian_thrills	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4a6zxl/mods_can_we_please_ban_techrights/
[12:43]	TR Bot	 Mods, can we please ban techrights? : linux
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like mastodom instabnces
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR]	the admin (god) decides
[12:44]	reptilian_thrills	reddit removes and demotes stories <- precisely why i never go to reddit
[12:44]	reptilian_thrills	 it's like mastodom instabnces <- precisely why i never bother with masturdon
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR]	if many readers and sponsors are ICBM, you don't want to piss them off
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR]	play it safe with prns and memes
[12:44]	reptilian_thrills	 play it safe with prns <- i dont think i want icbm prns
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[12:45]	reptilian_thrills	2 ceos 1 cup
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	mastodon: "i pay for this server... I run this instabce... I moderate"
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"pay for your own if you want to express this view or cover this topic"
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	"you're very welcome... as long as I agree with you"
[12:45]	reptilian_thrills	and then they say censorship is impossible after having done it :)
[12:45]	reptilian_thrills	because there are other computers!
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	i mean, if thats true then internet censorship is impossible
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	it won't federate with them
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	because there are other servers!
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	it won't federate with them <- i know
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	its hilarious
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	tim wilson (gobllin) wmentioned it a decade or more ago
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	in techbytes
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	a hilarious farce
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	inrr elation to diaspora
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and how it didn't at all ensure free speech
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	because pods can ban one another
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	or some centralised blacklist
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	inrr elation to diaspora <- i complained about the same years later
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	which there's no way to get out of
[12:46]	reptilian_thrills	but from first-hand experience
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	email becomes a similar problem
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	with all sorts of centralised blacklists for mail relays
[12:47]	reptilian_thrills	 or some centralised blacklis <- which there's no way to get out of <- run by a stallman canceller
[12:47]	reptilian_thrills	jason somefuck
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	same in freenode
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and oftc
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	same staff
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	same agenda
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	not all the staff
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but consensus is similar
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and thery share their k-files
[12:47]	reptilian_thrills	"free as in speech" :/
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	so ithey don't like your politics, you're not for irc
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	but irc does not federate
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	apparently there are some irc networks for drug users
[12:48]	reptilian_thrills	free software didnt get like this until open source foisted it on them
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	i am not against mastoidon
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	I just say,
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	make people informed about what they get into
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	daemonfc was surprised
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	that he cannot talk about pooh the bear and bill gates
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	in a large instanbce like masotodon.social
[12:48]	reptilian_thrills	ha
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/11/14/repost-of-mastodon-vs-ryan-farmer/
[12:49]	reptilian_thrills	mastodon is crap on a stick
[12:49]	TR Bot	 I Was Already Banned From Mastodon.social After Three Days for Insulting the Chinese Communist Government and Talking About Bill Gates | Techrights
[12:49]	reptilian_thrills	but again, i was hasty
[12:49]	reptilian_thrills	i just happened to be right
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	2017 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/23/mastodon-is-oppressive/
[12:49]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Mastodon is Actually a Lot Worse Than Twitter When it Comes to Free Speech. Avoid It.
[12:49]	reptilian_thrills	(i often take a long time to be hasty)
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/11/21/mastodon-free-speech/
[12:50]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Mastodon is Free Software, But It Does Not Respect Free Speech (Updated)
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	even twitter gave more leeway for "edgy" speech
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	by edgy I mean something like cirticising jihadis
[12:50]	reptilian_thrills	it should be real edgy now
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	which should not be edgy
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	the jihadis are the edgy ones
[12:50]	reptilian_thrills	jihadi shitlords
[12:50]	schestowitz[TR]	jihadis that kill muslims
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	foir being the "Wrong" type
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	MINDS also has a short fuse
[12:51]	reptilian_thrills	or for making prns on reddit
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	but not like mastodon or gnusocial
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	fediverse, both of them
[12:51]	reptilian_thrills	minds is like gab meets facebook meets myspace
[12:51]	schestowitz[TR]	porn n is OK
[12:51]	reptilian_thrills	it was a mess
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	just don't insult jihadis
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	minds was trying to ride the "crypto" train
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and get people to relinquish RealMoney
[12:52]	reptilian_thrills	i joined it to see if "free speech" was turning up anyting useful
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	for bits on a database
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	like buying digital assets (e.g. "sword") in a computer game
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	now thjey call that NFT
[12:53]	reptilian_thrills	nice fucking trick
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	with 'web3-label slant
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"it's on a blaockchain!"
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	irc is also not free speech
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	but there are many disjoint networks
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	oftc and librea.chat are the same staff almopst
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	and freenode is not free speech either
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	the new freenode
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	https://netsplit.de/networks/
[12:54]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[12:54]	reptilian_thrills	free speech isnt free, and if you dont put in your buck o five who will
[12:55]	reptilian_thrills	free speech costs a buck o five
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	newsgroups were more like this, but ISPs had control over the nntp relay
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	usenet was not centralised though
[12:55]	reptilian_thrills	it was like diaspora except it worked
[12:55]	reptilian_thrills	and it was utterly insecure too
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/
[12:56]	TR Bot	Schestowitz - UseNet
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	brb, home chores
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[13:12]	TR News	Twitter: first, consider human rights impacts https://www.context.news/big-tech/opinion/twitter-first-consider-human-rights-impacts Musk abhors human rights; see his stance on Bolivia
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[13:13]	TR Bot	 Data Protection Bill: Rejigged localisation rules in Data Protection Bill to ease worries of Big Tech companies - The Economic Times
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[13:18]	TR Bot	in Twitters Two-Factor Authentication System - Schneier on Security
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[13:22]	TR News	I Made The World's Smallest Server Rack - With UPS and SSD Storage - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/i-made-the-worlds-smallest-server-rack-with-ups-and-ssd-storage/ Source: The DIY Life | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.the-diy-life.com/i-made-the-worlds-smallest-server-rack-with-ups-and-ssd-storage/
[13:22]	TR Bot	 I Made The World's Smallest Server Rack - With UPS and SSD Storage - The DIY Life
[13:22]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[13:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[13:23]	TR News	It's like lots of engineers left or something... https://www.inforisktoday.com/twitter-two-factor-authentication-has-vulnerability-a-20475
[13:23]	TR Bot	 Twitter Two-Factor Authentication Has a Vulnerabilitb
[13:23]	TR News	Maybe Twitter needs to hire some geeks... https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-two-factor-sms-problems/
[13:23]	TR Bot	SMS Two-Factor Authentication Is Melting Down | WIRED
[13:26]	TR News	Qt for surveillance: "Product-led growth puts the product experience, both from a software and a hardware perspective, into the focus of the go-to-market strategy." https://www.qt.io/blog/what-is-product-analytics-for-embedded-devices
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Product-led Growth and Product Analytics, Can There Be One Without The Other?
[13:28]	TR News	"Here's this week drm-misc-next PR. Given we're at rc5 already, it's probably going to be the last for 6.2." https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-November/380192.html
[13:28]	TR Bot	 [PULL] drm-misc-next
[13:28]	TR News	Hans de Goede works for ICBM... works for... MICROSOFT https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5e425476-5f04-23e2-03e0-1f8ea57c1a55@redhat.com/
[13:28]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] platform-drivers-x86 for 6.1-4 - Hans de Goede
[13:29]	TR News	"In the interest of reducing rebase pain in the mean time, this series contains the non-UAPI bits, some of which will be immediately useful." https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/19606
[13:29]	TR Bot	 asahi: Linux porting, part 1 (!19606) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
[13:30]	TR News	Adds a few functions and fine-tunes the GPU hotplug infrastructure to allow the DDX driver to be loaded, if it is configured in the X config file options as "hotplug-driver"." https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=82bf391c933cd14b92f0ac96b7937497353c1b30
[13:30]	TR Bot	 xorg/xserver - X server (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver)
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[13:31]	TR News	"Manifest V3 (MV3) is bringing new user-facing changes to Firefox, including the Unified Extensions Button to manage installed and enabled browser extension permissions (origin controls), providing Firefox users control over extension access to their browsers. The first building blocks of this button were added to Nightly" https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/11/17/unified-extensions-button-and-how-to-handle-permissions-in-manifest-v
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Unified Extensions Button and how to handle permissions in Manifest V3 | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog
[13:31]	TR News	Ramblings of "HEY HI" from ICBM fossils https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/11/from-predictions-to-transformations.html
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Disruptive Economics of AI
[13:32]	TR News	"Open AirGradient is a DIY air quality monitor based on the Wemos D1 mini ESP8266 WiFi IoT board programmed with Arduino and fitted with a range of sensors including an optional Sensirion SGP41 TVOC sensor through a custom PCB designed with EasyEDA." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/17/diy-air-quality-monitor-wemos-d1-mini-esp8266-board-sensirion-sgp41-tvoc-sensor/
[13:32]	TR Bot	 DIY air quality monitor is based on Wemos D1 mini ESP8266 board, Sensirion SGP41 TVOC sensor - CNX Software
[13:33]	TR News	"This is the 106th issue of syslog-ng Insider, a monthly newsletter that brings you syslog-ng-related news." https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/the-syslog-ng-insider-2022-11-4-0-oidc-nightly-sudo
[13:33]	TR Bot	syslog-ng Insider 2022-11: 4.0; OIDC; nightly; sudo; - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
[13:35]	TR News	ICBM rewards voters with NFTs today https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-37 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-42 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-41 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-40 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-39 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i-voted%3A-fedora-38
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:35]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:36]	TR News	ICBM also has NFTs for volunteers/slaves https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-42-change-accepted https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-41-change-accepted https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-40-change-accepted https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-39-change-accepted https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-38-change-accepted https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-37-change-accepted
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
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[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Fedora Badges
[13:39]	TR News	Twitter should be abandoned by everyone. Nobody is at the wheel, but people still get banned for nothing. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63626769
[13:39]	TR Bot	 Astronomer in Twitter limbo over 'intimate' meteor - BBC News
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[13:57]	TR News	"Vue js is a Javascript framework for building user interfaces. It builds on top of standard HTML, CSS, and Javascript, so it is better to know them before diving into Vue js." https://nextgentips.com/2022/11/17/useful-getting-started-guide-in-vue-js/
[13:57]	TR Bot	getting started guide in Vue js NextGenTips
[13:58]	TR News	New Release of Box86 and Box64, with Better Compatibility of X86 and X86_64 Games on ARM Hardware! https://boilingsteam.com/new-release-of-box86-and-box64-with-better-compatibility-of-x86-and-x86_64-games-on-arm-hardware/
[13:58]	TR Bot	 New Release of Box86 and Box64, with Better Compatibility of X86 and X86_64 Games on ARM Hardware! - Boiling Steam
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[14:03]	TR News	BUKSHOT - "Cannonball" (Feat. Crucifix, Jelly Roll, - Demi Demaree) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D4h7ZcHdipc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/D4h7ZcHdipc
[14:03]	TR Bot	 BUKSHOT - "Cannonball" (Feat. Crucifix, Jelly Roll, & Demi Demaree) - Invidious
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[14:17]	TR News	add SFrame spec file https://sourceware.org/git/?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=blob;f=libsframe/doc/sframe-spec.texi;h=41f4ba17d83405ab62d10950248bbfd0300e2d4d;hb=c1c57352f56b802393453cfa76326922fd8da2f9
[14:17]	TR Bot	Git - binutils-gdb.git/blob - libsframe/doc/sframe-spec.texi
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:20]	TR News	Marketing in "survey" clothing; rip apart your systems, do "digital transformation", then become locked in by a vendor https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-global-customer-tech-outlook-2023-security-top-priority-digital-transformation-continues
[14:20]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Global Customer Tech Outlook 2023: Security is the top priority as digital transformation continues
[14:24]	TR News	Red Hat's main site/news section continues to be broken. The RSS feeds have been defunct for weeks. This is a very bad "case study" for what Red Hat is trying to sell.
[14:28]	TR News	 (NEW): Fedora and Red Hat Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Updates.gmi 
[14:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fedora and Red Hat Updates
[14:28]	TR News	 (NEW): Windows is Testing a GNOME-like Dark Mode Switcher. Copy Again? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Windows_is_Testing_a_GNOME_like_Dark_Mode_Switcher_Copy_Again.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Windows_is_Testing_a_GNOME_like_Dark_Mode_Switcher_Copy_Again.gmi 
[14:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Windows is Testing a GNOME-like Dark Mode Switcher. Copy Again?
[14:35]	TR News	 (NEW): 10 Best Linux Educational Software for Your Kids http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/10_Best_Linux_Educational_Software_for_Your_Kids.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/10_Best_Linux_Educational_Software_for_Your_Kids.gmi 
[14:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 10 Best Linux Educational Software for Your Kids
[14:36]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[14:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[16:01]	TR News	https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ neglected by the Rishi regime. Just like last week, 4PM and no update. Last week it was repeatedly delayed 4 TIMES... before update.
[16:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ )
[16:15]	TR News	covid-19 tests in the uk has sunk to new lows and it's winter already. gov strategy: pretend we don't see it
[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:20]	psydruid	https://tedgioia.substack.com/p/academic-publishing-and-the-death
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Academic Publishing and the Death Instinct - by Ted Gioia
[16:25]	schestowitz[TR]	 Academic Publishing  sucks on MANY levels
[16:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it's exploitative
[16:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it was not always like that
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[16:51]	AdmFubar	https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/17/the-doctor-will-fleece-you-now/#pe-in-full-effect
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: 17 Nov 2022 Private equity health-care monopolies are on a profitable killing spree Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[16:52]	TR News	 (NEW): Formatting the code in your patch for LibreOffice http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Formatting_the_code_in_your_patch_for_LibreOffice.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Formatting_the_code_in_your_patch_for_LibreOffice.gmi 
[16:52]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Formatting the code in your patch for LibreOffice
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[16:59]	TR News	Social Control Media is Dying, Long Live Gemini | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/gemini-and-social-control-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/gemini-and-social-control-media/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media is Dying, Long Live Gemini | Techrights
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[17:00]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[17:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[17:44]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22111227
[17:45]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ssz8lmwak2z91.png created on 2022-11-12 09:36:38.274041
[17:57]	TR News	Antnio Im the F***ing President Campinos Arranges Meeting With EPO Staff to Lie About Staff&#8217;s Position and Then Crush the Most Basic Rights of Staff | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/tony-vs-health/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/tony-vs-health/
[17:57]	TR Bot	 Antnio Im the F***ing President Campinos Arranges Meeting With EPO Staff to Lie About Staffs Position and Then Crush the Most Basic Rights of Staff | Techrights
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[18:03]	TR News	[Meme] Herr Professor Doktor Benot Battistelli | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/doktor-battistelli/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/doktor-battistelli/
[18:03]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Herr Professor Doktor Benot Battistelli | Techrights
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[18:16]	TR News	[Meme] The F***ing President at the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/epo-antonio-god/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/epo-antonio-god/
[18:16]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The F***ing President at the EPO | Techrights
[18:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:30]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22111220
[18:30]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/Dsi1ScU.png created on 2022-11-12 06:57:35.717768
[18:31]	TR News	Gemini is a very attractive alternative, and not just to the World Wide Web but also to the farming of users on the World Wide Web as Gemini works very differently http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/gemini-and-social-control-media/
[18:31]	TR News	The Central Staff Committee at the EPO cautions that an EPO policy document constitutes a misrepresentation of the situation at the EPO and instrumentalises the Working Group on Health & Safety Services to introduce further restrictions on the rights of sick employees http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/tony-vs-health/
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[18:40]	TR News	LHS Episode #489: 2CW or not 2CW | Linux in the Ham Shack https://lhspodcast.info/2022/11/lhs-episode-489-2cw-or-not-2cw-2/ Source: Linux in the Ham Shack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lhspodcast.info/2022/11/lhs-episode-489-2cw-or-not-2cw-2/
[18:40]	TR Bot	 LHS Episode #489: 2CW or not 2CW | Linux in the Ham Shack
[18:41]	TR News	SmartOS 20221117 https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
[18:41]	TR Bot	 SmartOS | Joyent
[18:42]	TR News	KDE neon 20221117 https://neon.kde.org/
[18:42]	TR Bot	 KDE neon
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[18:44]	TR News	Sander Vanheule added to openwrt https://openwrt.org/about?rev=1668700450&do=diff
[18:44]	TR Bot	 [OpenWrt Wiki] About the OpenWrt/LEDE project
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[18:49]	TR News	The latest documents from the EPO show that Benot Battistelli and Antnio Im the F***ing President Campinos not only fail to understand the well-being of EPO staff (that can lead to prosecution and arrest); they actively sabotage staffs health in all sorts of ways http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/doktor-battistelli/
[18:49]	TR News	The EPOs Administrative Council keeps putting megalomaniacs/autocrats in positions of power and responsibility, expecting different results or favourable outcomes http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/epo-antonio-god/
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR]	ewwww password stealer:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUvXuJWu6bI
[18:51]	TR Bot	https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=fUvXuJWu6bI
[18:51]	TR Bot	not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=fUvXuJWu6bI )
[18:51]	schestowitz[TR]	was he paid for this?
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[19:00]	TR News	A "Big Telecom" front group https://www.fosslife.org/lf-europe-launches-open-source-telco-project see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/
[19:00]	TR Bot	 LF Europe Launches Open Source Telco Project
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights
[19:01]	TR News	This LF garbage is promoted by Frederic Lardinois, a longtime propagandist of Microsoft. http://techrights.org/2019/11/16/buying-gnu-linux-piecewise/ http://techrights.org/2019/11/11/delete-github/ http://techrights.org/2013/07/29/financial-coverup/
[19:01]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Doesnt Love Linux, It Just Buys Linux | Techrights
[19:01]	TR Bot	 Microsofts Abduction of the Voice of Its Opposition Highlights the Urgency of the Movement/Campaign to Delete GitHub | Techrights
[19:01]	TR Bot	 The Crisis of Microsoft and the Coverup | Techrights
[19:01]	TR News	LF gets promoted by many of the same shills who promote Microsoft. Not a coincidence at all.
[19:02]	TR News	"Burlesquing the Augustan eras fixation on classical tradition, Gay renders practical advice for walking around London into oftentimes absurd verse." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/gay-trivia/
[19:02]	TR Bot	 A Pantomime and Masquerade: *Trivia: or, the Art of Walking the Streets of London* (1716) The Public Domain Review
[19:04]	TR News	Manifest v3 signing available November 21 on Firefox Nightly | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/11/17/manifest-v3-signing-available-november-21-on-firefox-nightly/ Source: Mozilla | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/11/17/manifest-v3-signing-available-november-21-on-firefox-nightly/
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Manifest v3 signing available November 21 on Firefox Nightly | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog
[19:05]	TR News	"This reference page contains all the links to Firefox browser downloads, including stable, beta, and developer editions." https://www.debugpoint.com/download-firefox/
[19:05]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/download-firefox/ )
[19:07]	TR News	Rocky Linux 8.7 Released with Updated Compiler Toolset http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Rocky_Linux_8_7_Available_Now.shtml
[19:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Rocky Linux 8.7 Available Now (UPDATED)
[19:08]	TR News	TLC last longer and are faster but also more expensive https://dwaves.de/2022/11/17/why-tlc-ssds-are-still-better-than-qlc-ssds/
[19:08]	TR Bot	why TLC SSDs are (still) better than QLC SSDs | dwaves.de
[19:12]	MinceR	(cat) https://www.deviantart.com/kotbeber/art/1840-1240-03-936341763
[19:12]	TR Bot	03 by KotBeber on DeviantArt
[19:12]	TR News	"When attempting to open a file using a specific path, the user's password hash is sent to an arbitrary host." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-321-01
[19:12]	TR Bot	 Red Lion Crimson | CISA
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[19:12]	TR News	"Cradlepoint IBR600 NCOS versions prior to 6.5.0.160bc2e are vulnerable to shell escape which enables local attackers with non-superuser credentials to gain full, unrestrictive shell access which may allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-321-02
[19:12]	TR Bot	 Cradlepoint IBR600 | CISA
[19:14]	TR News	Purism adopts the Microsoft lobbying BS, "Big Tech" https://puri.sm/posts/swinging-back-to-open-standards/ distracts from worst culprit: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/
[19:14]	TR Bot	 Swinging Back to Open Standards Purism
[19:14]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights
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[19:23]	TR News	Microsoft Still Desperate to Hijack the Linux Brand (People Forgot WSL Even Exists) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/people-forgot-wsl-even-exists/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/people-forgot-wsl-even-exists/
[19:23]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Still Desperate to Hijack the Linux Brand (People Forgot WSL Even Exists) | Techrights
[19:25]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[19:27]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show how to install Fedora 37." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HGPmdKqbwt8
[19:27]	TR Bot	 How to install Fedora 37. - Invidious
[19:28]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show ho upgrade to Fedora 37 from Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hGBPWt8KHcA
[19:28]	TR Bot	 How To Upgrade To Fedora 37 From Fedora 36. - Invidious
[19:29]	TR News	"I have published a new video on YouTube: Introduction to AWK Delimiters. Please subscribe to my channel if you havent done so yet!" https://www.unixtutorial.org/awk-delimiters-video/
[19:29]	TR Bot	 Video: awk delimiters
[19:31]	TR News	CHROME OS Flex is a BAD operating system - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XYBMdKlYygg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/XYBMdKlYygg
[19:31]	TR Bot	 CHROME OS Flex is a BAD operating system - Invidious
[19:32]	TR News	Why I Hate MOST Linux Distributions Reaction - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YPnkl88nnfg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/YPnkl88nnfg
[19:32]	TR Bot	 Why I Hate MOST Linux Distributions *Reaction* - Invidious
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[19:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[19:33]	TR News	A FreeBSD Cat Alternative? "You Bat there is..." - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H7m2l-0DbfA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/H7m2l-0DbfA
[19:33]	TR Bot	 A FreeBSD Cat Alternative? "You Bat there is..." - Invidious
[19:37]	TR News	Another "MVP" https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/11/17/async-fn-in-trait-nightly.html
[19:37]	TR Bot	 Async fn in trait MVP comes to nightly | Inside Rust Blog
[19:38]	TR News	Microsoft is once again manufacturing fake WSL milestones (like adding another number or a small g) to inject Windows content into Linux sites and searches http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/people-forgot-wsl-even-exists/
[19:39]	TR News	 (NEW): Shows and Videos: FreeBSD Cat Alternative, BSD Now, GNU/Linux Distros, CHROME OS Flex, Linux in the Ham Shack, and What Happened to Budgie http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Shows_and_Videos_FreeBSD_Cat_Alternative_BSD_Now_GNU_Linux_Dist.shtml
[19:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Shows and Videos: FreeBSD Cat Alternative, BSD Now, GNU/Linux Distros, CHROME OS Flex, Linux in the Ham Shack, and What Happened to Budgie
[19:41]	TR News	"The LinuxONE Emperor 4 is IBMs most highly performing, secure, sustainable and open Linux server to date." https://www.expresscomputer.in/videos/govdci-summit/unveiling-of-ibm-linuxone-4-emperor/91925/
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Unveiling of IBM LinuxONE 4 Emperor - Express Computer
[19:42]	TR News	What Is a Linux Hypervisor and What Does It Do? https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-a-linux-hypervisor-what-does-it-do/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/what-is-a-linux-hypervisor-what-does-it-do/
[19:42]	TR Bot	 What Is a Linux Hypervisor and What Does It Do?
[19:42]	TR News	 (NEW): Mozilla: Firefox and Manifest v3 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Mozilla_Firefox_and_Manifest_v3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Mozilla_Firefox_and_Manifest_v3.gmi 
[19:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Mozilla: Firefox and Manifest v3
[19:43]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/nov/17/spacex-employees-file-unfair-labor-practice-charges-elon-musk
[19:43]	TR Bot	 SpaceX employees say they were fired for criticizing Elon Musk in open letter | SpaceX | The Guardian
[19:43]	TR News	"We cover events and user groups that are running in Turkey. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-turkey/
[19:43]	TR Bot	Around The World: Turkey - LinuxLinks
[19:44]	TR News	A sea of HEY HI buzzword salad https://venturebeat.com/ai/snorkel-takes-a-deep-dive-into-data-labeling-and-foundation-ai-models/
[19:44]	TR Bot	takes a deep dive into data labeling and foundation AI models | VentureBeat
[19:51]	DaemonFC	I don't think that my mom realizes that COVID's not necessarily such a big deal anymore if you're vaccinated and take Paxlovid towards the beginning of it. I told her he was going back to work on Sunday and she went all crazy about it.
[19:51]	DaemonFC	And even when I said it was what the CDC and the doctor say to do, she was contradicting me.
[19:52]	DaemonFC	When I kept telling her to shut her mouth and stop giving him bad ideas unless she was going to pay our rent if he lost his job, she finally hung up on me. This is going well.
[19:54]	prurigro	DaemonFC: you don't even have to take anything for it towards the beginning- it's really just not that bad. I went from knowing like 3 people who'd had it to almost everyone I know having it over the course of the summer, and the worst worst symptoms were a cold and loss of sense of smell
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[20:01]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: you are a lot younger than her
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[20:02]	prurigro	schestowitz[TR]: imho if she's old enough and unhealthy enough to be worried about the current variants of covid while being vaccinated, she should also be equally worried about catching the flu
[20:06]	TR News	Open Source Initiative (OSI) Adds Mozilla and Linux Foundation to Its Microsoft-Funded Attack on the GPL/Copyleft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/follow-anti-gpl-money/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/follow-anti-gpl-money/
[20:06]	TR Bot	 Open Source Initiative (OSI) Adds Mozilla and Linux Foundation to Its Microsoft-Funded Attack on the GPL/Copyleft | Techrights
[20:08]	TR News	Open Source Initiative (OSI) Adds Mozilla and Linux Foundation to Its Microsoft-Funded Attack on the GPL/Copyleft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/follow-anti-gpl-money/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/follow-anti-gpl-money/
[20:12]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22111129
[20:12]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/tvnn3eqnhpx91.jpg created on 2022-11-11 10:16:43.303859
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:39]	DaemonFC	Mandy's still testing positive, but it took the T line longer to show up and it's pretty faint.
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[20:40]	DaemonFC	The CDC and the doctor say return to work on day 5 even if it's still positive, and just wear a mask.
[20:40]	DaemonFC	As long as the symptoms are receding by day 5.
[20:40]	DaemonFC	They're basing this on what days they think a patient is shedding the most virus.
[20:58]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Under Walmart's old policy of sending everyone home if they were running a fever, they would have caught Mandy's infection and told him to go home, no points.
[20:58]	DaemonFC	But they got rid of the health checks a long time ago.
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 80.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[21:00]	DaemonFC	https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/cancer-diagnoses-lag-after-screenings-fall-during-pandemic-us-study-finds-2022-11-17/
[21:00]	TR Bot	diagnoses lag after screenings fall during pandemic, U.S. study finds | Reuters
[21:00]	DaemonFC	"In 2020 - the first year of the pandemic - average rates of screening for breast cancer fell by 40%, for cervical cancer by 36%, and for colorectal cancer by 45%, compared to the three previous years, according to an analysis of medical claims data from 306 million adults."
[21:00]	DaemonFC	No problem. If you didn't have all this testing, the cancer would go away.
[21:00]	DaemonFC	;)
[21:00]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, ^
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[21:01]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22111121
[21:01]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ze5nvi2vw2z91.jpg created on 2022-11-11 07:07:33.542892
[21:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Bleeping Computer is now running spam articles about getting "MS Office plus 50 hours of training for $60".
[21:02]	DaemonFC	50 hours of training to use an office program?
[21:02]	DaemonFC	That sounds rather odd.
[21:02]	DaemonFC	Probably the worst part is Excel.
[21:02]	MinceR	50 hours of training to poorly use a very particular version of a particularly poorly designed office suite :>
[21:02]	MinceR	oh, yes, also, only in 1 language
[21:03]	MinceR	excel translates function names because fuck you.
[21:03]	DaemonFC	It also puts math errors in because it's "precise enough" according to Microsoft.
[21:03]	MinceR	and CSV-s are semicolon-separated (possibly only in languages that use decimal commas)
[21:03]	MinceR	because they don't know what commas are in redmond
[21:04]	DaemonFC	Microsoft keeps getting caught with bizarre floating point errors and special casing them so if you enter exactly that formula or equation in it will return the right result.
[21:04]	DaemonFC	:)
[21:04]	MinceR	they fuck up fixed point too
[21:14]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/ai-art-2
[21:14]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AI Art
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[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:40]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: typical bleeping computing
[21:40]	schestowitz[TR]	the owner lawrenac eis a microsoft operative of sorts
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR]	based in london iirc (lawrence)
[21:50]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi 
[21:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[21:50]	TR News	What Is a Linux Hypervisor and What Does It Do http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/What_Is_a_Linux_Hypervisor_and_What_Does_It_Do.shtml
[21:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines What Is a Linux Hypervisor and What Does It Do
[21:52]	TR News	BSD PF firewall has one extra scrub option... - Jons FOSS Blog https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/bsd-pf-firewall-has-one-extra-scrub-option/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/11/17/bsd-pf-firewall-has-one-extra-scrub-option/
[21:52]	TR Bot	 BSD PF firewall has one extra scrub option Jon's FOSS Blog
[21:53]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1898451
[21:53]	TR Bot	 FTX lacked accurate list of bank accounts, failed at basic bookkeeping | Ars Technica
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe b y choice :-=)
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"ma dog ate ma homework"
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[22:06]	TR News	 (NEW): Top Kali Linux tools and #HowTo use them http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Top_Kali_Linux_tools_and_how_to_use_them.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Top_Kali_Linux_tools_and_how_to_use_them.gmi 
[22:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Top Kali Linux tools and how to use them
[22:08]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22111553
[22:08]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/c5plaqj12uz91.jpg created on 2022-11-15 20:02:04.562733
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:21]	AdmFubar	https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2022/11/seduced-by-story-peter-brooks-book-review/672135/
[22:21]	TR Bot	 Beware the 'Storification' of the Internet - The Atlantic
[22:24]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/16/if-you-thought-the-ftc-was-going-to-fuck-over-elon-just-wait-until-he-learns-about-the-eu/
[22:24]	TR Bot	You Thought The FTC Was Going To Fuck Over Elon, Just Wait Until He Learns About The EU | Techdirt
[22:25]	AdmFubar	https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/17/roku-lays-off-200-us-employees-citing-economic-conditions/
[22:25]	TR Bot	lays off 200 US employees, citing economic conditions TechCrunch
[22:27]	TR News	What sane person would put this under Windows??? https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/host-a-subsonic-music-server-on-windows-server/
[22:27]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/host-a-subsonic-music-server-on-windows-server/ )
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[22:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[22:32]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: they all do
[22:32]	schestowitz[TR]	like "inflation"
[22:32]	schestowitz[TR]	my webhost just mentioned it also
[22:32]	schestowitz[TR]	to justify price hikes
[22:32]	schestowitz[TR]	hours ago
[22:36]	AdmFubar	we're laying off staff so we can charge you more money!
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	they need to pay power bill
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	for the... device
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	and pay for food
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	for... I don't know
[22:38]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/starving
[22:38]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Starving
[22:38]	TR News	New Study on Vitamin D and COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/17/vitamin-d-and-covid-19/
[22:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive New Study on Vitamin D and COVID-19
[22:40]	TR News	SteamDeck | What Makes it Awesome for an openSUSE User - CubicleNates Techpad https://cubiclenate.com/2022/11/17/steamdeck-what-makes-it-awesome-for-an-opensuse-user/ Source: CubicleNate | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//cubiclenate.com/2022/11/17/steamdeck-what-makes-it-awesome-for-an-opensuse-user/
[22:40]	TR Bot	 What Makes it Awesome for an openSUSE User CubicleNate's Techpad
[22:41]	TR News	 (UPDATED): Sparky 6.5 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/14/Sparky_6_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/14/Sparky_6_5.gmi 
[22:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sparky 6.5 (UPDATED)
[22:43]	TR News	The Linux Foundation (LF) has joined Microsofts anti-GPL agenda, yet again; As can be seen only hours ago in an LF- and Microsoft-aligned site of LPI, Microsoft-centric lobbying is everywhere, including Linux Foundation Europe http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/follow-anti-gpl-money/
[22:43]	TR Bot	 Open Source Initiative (OSI) Adds Mozilla and Linux Foundation to Its Microsoft-Funded Attack on the GPL/Copyleft | Techrights
[22:48]	TR News	Listening devices (Alexa) cut off. No money in bugging people's homes? More of a service for the cops? https://liliputing.com/lilbits-fedora-37-qualcomms-next-gen-chip-for-ar-glasses-and-amazon-layoffs/
[22:48]	TR Bot	Fedora 37, Qualcomm's next-gen chip for AR glasses, and Amazon layoffs - Liliputing
[22:49]	TR News	Datacenter Can Carry Nvidia Through The Rough Spots https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/11/17/datacenter-can-carry-nvidia-through-the-rough-spots/ Source: The Next Platform | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/11/17/datacenter-can-carry-nvidia-through-the-rough-spots/
[22:49]	TR Bot	 Datacenter Can Carry Nvidia Through The Rough Spots
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[22:52]	TR News	Intel: we'll send Michael some free products and he'll test "Clear Linux" like it's a serious distro someone actually uses (almost nobody does; they buy "marketing" placements) https://www.phoronix.com/review/linux-2022-raptorlake
[22:52]	TR Bot	Six Different Linux Distributions On The Intel Core i9 13900K "Raptor Lake" - Phoronix
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[22:55]	TR News	SpellBinding: EHKMWRO Wordo: THEIR gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-11-17.gmi
[22:55]	TR News	State of my headphone stash Nov 2022 gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-11-17-headphones.gmi
[22:56]	TR News	Some Thoughts On Privacy gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~scientiac/log/some_thoughts_on_privacy.gmi
[22:57]	TR News	Regular Expression Alternation gemini://thrig.me/blog/2022/11/17/regular-expression-alternation.gmi
[22:58]	AdmFubar	https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/11/17/1650221/10000-google-employees-could-be-rated-as-low-performers?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
[22:58]	TR Bot	 10,000 Google Employees Could Be Rated as Low Performers - Slashdot
[22:58]	TR News	Hard user separation with two NixOS as one gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/two-nixos-as-one.gmi
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[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 80.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[22:59]	TR News	Decentralized Infrastructure gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202211/20221117-decenralized-infrastructure.gmi
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[23:00]	TR News	Ubuntu Setup on a ThinkPad gemini://lieba.ch/log/ubuntu-setup.gmi
[23:01]	TR News	"Here is some advice on setting up an ergonomic workstation for very little money." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-11-17.battlestation.gmi
[23:02]	TR News	Pro tip for learning gemini://idiomdrottning.org/study-breaks
[23:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.databreaches.net/meta-fires-employees-and-contractors-for-improperly-accessing-users-accounts-and-selling-them-to-hackers/
[23:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/meta-fires-employees-and-contractors-for-improperly-accessing-users-accounts-and-selling-them-to-hackers/ )
[23:02]	TR News	Star Log 2022-11-16 Evening (Fairbanks, AK, US) Star Log 2022-11-16 Evening (Fairbanks, AK, US)
[23:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], We've been taking 5,000 IU Vitamin D3 since the start of the pandemic.
[23:09]	schestowitz[TR]	:-)
[23:10]	schestowitz[TR]	common sense
[23:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[23:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[23:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Devices: World's Smallest Server Rack, Purism, Open AirGradient, and PacketFilter Appliances http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Devices_World_s_Smallest_Server_Rack_Purism_Open_AirGradient_an.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Devices_World_s_Smallest_Server_Rack_Purism_Open_AirGradient_an.gmi 
[23:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Devices: World's Smallest Server Rack, Purism, Open AirGradient, and PacketFilter Appliances
[23:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/11/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[23:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-11-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:21]	TR News	Links 17/11/2022: Red Hat Satellite 6.12 and Twitters Two-Factor Authentication Breaks Down | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/11/17/two-factor-authentication-breakdown/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/17/two-factor-authentication-breakdown/
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Links 17/11/2022: Red Hat Satellite 6.12 and Twitters Two-Factor Authentication Breaks Down | Techrights
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[23:45]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/northwest-indiana/griffith-man-pleads-guilty-to-stocking-more-than-2600-pounds-of-catfish-into-suburban-lake/
[23:45]	TR Bot	 Griffith man pleads guilty to stocking more than 2,600 pounds of catfish into suburban lake | WGN-TV
[23:45]	psydruid	Microsoft Surface Attack featuring Phoronix
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Pleaded Guilty to putting catfish into a lake where there were already catfish.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	Alrighty then.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/us-extends-covid-public-health-emergency-through-january/
[23:48]	TR Bot	 US to keep COVID public health emergency through January | WGN-TV
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Emergency over. Pandemic over. Walmart on the verge of the local store collapsing due to ~30+% out sick for......some reason.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	It hit the store all at once, pretty much. The employees are clustered together in there giving it to each other, and so I'd imagine we'll be dealing with this for a few more weeks at this store.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/grand-rapids-family-sues-navy-pier-after-boy-8-injured-in-fall/
[23:51]	TR Bot	 Grand Rapids family sues Navy Pier after boy, 8, injured in fall | WGN-TV
[23:52]	DaemonFC	They were encouraging him to continue climbing even though they say that his harness wasn't attached to a safety rope.
[23:52]	DaemonFC	And then when he falls and goes splat they're like "OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!!".
[23:52]	DaemonFC	Right....
[23:58]	XRevan86	https://thetruestory.news/en/stories/54a227df-662c-11ed-8373-531944c53eeb?utm_source=tg&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=tg_promo
[23:58]	TR Bot	 Gaza building fire kills 21 True Story
[23:59]	XRevan86	* https://thetruestory.news/en/stories/54a227df-662c-11ed-8373-531944c53eeb
[23:59]	TR Bot	 Fire at Gaza home kills 21, including 7 children: Report True Story
[23:59]	XRevan86	(I am not registered on Telegram)