●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, January 18, 2021 ●● ● Jan 18 [00:02] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146584 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:02] psydroid I haven't been able to spot any typos in the last few articles I proofread and commented on [00:02] psydroid or maybe just one yesterday [00:02] schestowitz maybe that's a good thing [00:02] schestowitz I became too paranoid, I think, about typos [00:03] schestowitz seeing that some trolls out there used them to try to discredit the message/article/messenger [00:03] schestowitz to the point of reading the titles 5 times [00:03] schestowitz and new year''s resolution was, keep it down to a saner level [00:04] schestowitz but failing typos, they'll find other excuses to not read or link [00:04] schestowitz some examples in http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/ [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Spot Diversion Tactics (Excuses and Distractions From Articles Not Convenient to the Reader) | Techrights [00:08] psydroid I've told you about my experiences when I linked to articles and they closely match what you said in this one [00:12] psydroid the interesting thing for me is that the less knowledgeable people are about how things in the world of IT and patents work, the more readily they will accept different points of view [00:13] psydroid sometimes I wonder for how long I can handle the brainwashing going on before I decide to go and do something else such as becoming a farmer [00:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.61 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.86 [00:30] schestowitz psydroid: framing is OK when you are young [00:30] schestowitz as you age, your prospects go away [00:30] schestowitz back issue and stuff [00:34] schestowitz psydroid: can you check this for factual errors/typos? http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/ [00:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Oligarchs Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights [00:34] schestowitz it would also be useful to know if this can offend Biden voters [00:34] schestowitz in 2008 I apparently 'offended' some Obama supporters [00:34] schestowitz by asserting he would continue serving corporations the way Bush had done [00:35] schestowitz (and I was right about that, as it turned out in the 8 years that followed) [00:43] DaemonFC[m] There's nothing that can be done to cut Trump off from National Security briefings until Wednesday, but that will be the last one he ever gets. Biden has decided that Trump is too dangerous to receive any more briefings. It's unclear whether the new rule applies only to Trump or if Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Carter will stop receiving theirs. [00:43] DaemonFC[m] We've never had a problem with former presidents leaking things to Russia, but then there's Trump, who broke the Presidential Records Act by having his meeting transcripts with the Russians shredded as he left the room with them. [00:44] techrights-bot The Oligarchs Parties Will Never Choose the Side of #SoftwareFreedom Because #FreeSoftware Cannot Bribe Officials http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [00:44] DaemonFC[m] Different oligarchs, I suppose. [00:45] schestowitz many overlaps [00:45] DaemonFC[m] Tech vs fossil fuels is the biggest one. [00:45] schestowitz same interests [00:45] schestowitz Big Tech is an attempt to perhaps distract from the other [00:45] schestowitz and almost nobody speaks about "big telecom" [00:45] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: My dad is already acting like Trump signed executive orders reducing prescription prices. You can look at a graph of historical prices, and nothing has gotten better under Trump. [00:46] schestowitz stooges of the Kochs talk of "Big Gov" [00:46] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: Trump lies [00:46] schestowitz Carl Farmer is easy to lie to [00:46] DaemonFC[m] Then when I mentioned to dad that Walgreens wanted $120 for some ear drops the other day, he just said "I don't know what medicines you have to take.". [00:46] psydroid "In the days of (the) Obama administration era" is what I would say, but DaemonFC probably knows better if an article should be there [00:46] schestowitz Maybe Carl also thinks Biden is a pedophile [00:46] psydroid it just sounds a bit weird to me without it [00:47] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: The mall is dying. We went to a restaurant that was breaking the law and doing dine-in. [00:47] schestowitz psydroid: thanks, spotted and corrected that typo [00:47] DaemonFC[m] The news in Lake County published a list that was flouting the "health code order" and it was pretty busy there. [00:47] schestowitz they try to survive [00:47] DaemonFC[m] They were doing social distancing, masks, plexiglass.... [00:47] schestowitz more people will defy more orders [00:47] DaemonFC[m] I didn't feel like I was in more danger than I would be at Walmart. [00:48] schestowitz as they just struggle to pay rent and buy food [00:48] schestowitz time for UBI maybe [00:48] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, fuck the Lake County Health Department. [00:48] schestowitz in nations that can afford UBI that covers food, power, water [00:48] DaemonFC[m] They're the reason we were driving past strips of bankrupt businesses all the way over there, where there will be no jobs for people to go back to if this ever does end. [00:49] DaemonFC[m] The economy is dying here and people who actually work for a living are losing their jobs and committing suicide. [00:49] DaemonFC[m] And the government doesn't care about that. [00:50] DaemonFC[m] It does fucking nothing. Shuts things down at random to "protect" us from something that kills one person in the county per day. [00:51] DaemonFC[m] And two-thirds of those are in nursing homes. I'm not in a nursing home. [00:51] techrights-bot #Linux Action News 172 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146583#comment-27837 [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Videos: GNU/Linux News, ONLYOFFICE, LibreWolf, and AwesomeWM | Tux Machines [00:51] DaemonFC[m] They're hoarding all of the vaccines to give to people who are two minutes from midnight anyway. [00:52] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: They say there will be a drive through at the lake county fairgrounds for vaccination next month, but you have to be an essential frontline worker or over 65. [00:52] DaemonFC[m] Maybe Mandy qualifies. [00:53] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/us/inauguration-protests-sunday/index.html [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Protests at state capitols remain small and under heavy police presence after warnings of unrest - CNN [00:53] DaemonFC[m] So far, it's been a few kooks. Pretty quiet, really. [00:53] techrights-bot #FreeSW ('Open Source') #Security Podcast: #RightToRepair Security https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/01/17/episode-254-right-to-repair-security/ [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 254 Right to Repair Security Open Source Security [00:53] DaemonFC[m] Probably because they realize you won't get past 25,000 National Guardsmen. [00:54] techrights-bot #Intel leaks to come every day this coming week. We have maybe a dozen parts left. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [00:54] techrights-bot There appears to be a severe crisis at #Intel ; they cannot recruit scientists (or those whom they recruited are walking away) and as a result the company produces bad products with poor documentation http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/ [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XVIII: Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation | Techrights [00:55] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:55] techrights-bot Remarks on recent and impending #techrights changes; We are not replacing text with video, were just trying to enhance the presentation a bit, especially where visuals help make a point or where browsing through Web sites http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/impending-site-changes/ [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text | Techrights [00:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:56] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:56] techrights-bot Developers and users are increasingly exploring what the #Freesoftware world has to offer; this is actually measurable and it contradicts claims to the contrary http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/ #freesw [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | COVID-19 Has Actually Helped Software Freedom Due to Financial and Spare Time Factors | Techrights [00:57] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:57] techrights-bot The tough reality is that next weeks (or this coming weeks, depending on what Sunday counts as) inauguration ceremony is partly symbolic as all the same and important issues remain largely untouched, for corporations control almost everything of significance http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/ [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Oligarchs Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights [00:58] DaemonFC[m] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/rudy-giuliani-associate-john-kiriakou-trump-pardon [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Giuliani associate told ex-CIA officer a Trump pardon would 'cost $2m report | Rudy Giuliani | The Guardian [00:58] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Trump told his staff to stiff Giuliani on his legal fees as revenge for losing all of the election cases. [00:59] techrights-bot Finger in #gnu #linux don't use #microsoft #windows implementations of it https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-finger-command-abused-by-phishing-to-download-malware/ [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows Finger command abused by phishing to download malware [00:59] DaemonFC[m] Giuliani was apparently charging $20,000 per day. [00:59] schestowitz to leak? ● Jan 18 [01:00] schestowitz [00:52] schestowitz: They say there will be a drive through at the lake county fairgrounds for vaccination next month, but you have to be an essential frontline worker or over 65. [01:00] schestowitz expriment [01:00] schestowitz or clinical trials [01:00] schestowitz some "selected group" [01:00] schestowitz join the experiment for patent monopolies or patent pools [01:00] schestowitz yay [01:00] schestowitz and maybe it'll even work out at the end [01:01] schestowitz data impending [01:01] schestowitz coming soon [01:09] DaemonFC[m] https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/i-looked-at-all-the-ways-microsoft-teams-tracks-users-and-my-head-is-spinning/ [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users and my head is spinning | ZDNet [01:10] DaemonFC[m] Most of it is meaningless out of context, but it apparently assigns people a productivity score for their boss to look at. [01:10] schestowitz Re: iOS market share [01:10] schestowitz > WorldEuropeUSA [01:10] schestowitz > iOS 16.58%16.11%31.43% [01:10] schestowitz > Windows31.73%39.26%29.66% [01:10] schestowitz > Android41.58%32.9%19.86% [01:10] schestowitz > OS X 7.08% 8.98%14.85% [01:10] schestowitz > Chrome 2.65% [01:10] schestowitz > Linux 0.81% 0.86% 0.84% [01:10] schestowitz > [01:10] schestowitz > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202012 [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats [01:10] schestowitz > [01:10] schestowitz > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/europe#monthly-200901-202012 [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Europe | StatCounter Global Stats [01:10] schestowitz > [01:10] schestowitz > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states-of-america#monthly-200901-202012 [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share United States Of America | StatCounter Global Stats [01:10] schestowitz > That might say a lot about the nature of the data they gather, rather than reality itself. [01:10] schestowitz Either way, Microsoft needs to find a business model, a NEW one, or die... [01:10] schestowitz Rebranding Vista10 is not enough. [01:11] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: zdnet is a joke site, linking to AMP makes it yet worse [01:11] *cubeman_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:11] *cubeman_ (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [01:13] *tr_guest|9 (6b4dc70c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.77.199.12) has joined #techrights [01:13] *tr_guest|9 has quit (Client Quit) [01:17] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:18] psydroid Microsoft's business model is moving towards gaming, which is a good thing because it makes it easier to ignore them for serious IT workloads either on the client or the server [01:18] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:18] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:18] psydroid I don't know if that will be enough to sustain them, but that's their problem to solve [01:19] schestowitz xbox lost them billions [01:19] schestowitz and then they wasted billions of jokes like minecraft [01:19] schestowitz no idea why anyone would waste time and money on such utter junk [01:19] schestowitz linkedin is going down the drain too... many layoffs [01:19] psydroid grasping for straws at this point [01:20] psydroid at* [01:22] DaemonFC[m] The Nokia deal was one of their worst though. [01:23] DaemonFC[m] Just a total loss of money. [01:25] DaemonFC[m] It capped off a series of totally forgettable Microsoft phones. [01:27] DaemonFC[m] https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobiledevices/forum/mdapps/what-browser-does-the-kin-twom-use/0cae33f6-6cb2-492b-8a31-f5d23268ad20 [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com | What Browser does the KIN twom use? - Microsoft Community [01:27] DaemonFC[m] " I just got my Kin TwoM. Its user agent string is "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12; en-US; KIN.Two 1.0)" I thought I had read somewhere that it was somewhere in between ie7 and ie8. Pretty disappointing. " [01:27] DaemonFC[m] LOL [01:28] DaemonFC[m] It seems like it could probably only barely render websites when it was released. [01:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 9.55 [01:31] schestowitz google outage? [01:31] schestowitz we are having issues with some client that uses Google Maps for something [01:32] schestowitz The behavious seems sporadic [01:32] schestowitz not an issue I can see at our hand [01:32] schestowitz maybe the Google API [01:32] schestowitz Where can one check the status of pertinent Google disservices? [01:32] schestowitz in real time? [01:36] DaemonFC[m] I doubt they publish that. Why would they? [01:40] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:44] psydroid I can see they are having some problems just by searching for "google down", but it's not their own status page [01:44] schestowitz just got another phone escalation [01:48] mjg59 google.com/appsstatus [01:49] psydroid https://status.cloud.google.com/ [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-status.cloud.google.com | Google Cloud Status Dashboard ● Jan 18 [02:03] *xvx has quit (Quit: xvx) [02:05] schestowitz seems like jboss was at fault [02:06] schestowitz http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/links/openstreetmap-maps-links [02:06] schestowitz "If you want to print out local maps, MyOSMatic is a service to generate maps of cities using OpenStreetMap data. The generated maps are available in PNG, PDF and SVG formats and are ready to be printed." 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[04:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.66 [04:39] DaemonFC[m] Under Trump, the US has experienced the most rapid decline in life expectancy since the USSR disintegrated. [04:40] DaemonFC[m] *in a major country since Russia after the USSR disintegrated, rather [04:45] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [04:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ● Jan 18 [05:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.00 [05:35] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: tell your parents :-) [05:35] schestowitz it would bother then [05:35] schestowitz *them [05:36] DaemonFC[m] Since practically all of it is landing on men over 60 and my dad is 69....you'd think he'd knock off the bullshit. [05:36] schestowitz they would blame their son, the messenger [05:41] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) 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[07:52] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 18 [08:19] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.85 [08:45] Techrights-sec https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/us/mlk-day-of-service/index.html [08:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | MLK Day of service 2021 - CNN [08:50] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [08:57] techrights-bot 42Gears SureMDM Simplifies Setting up Kiosk Mode on Linux Devices https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/42gears-suremdm-simplifies-setting-up-kiosk-mode-on-linux-devices-817220571.html [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | 42Gears SureMDM Simplifies Setting up Kiosk Mode on Linux Devices [08:57] techrights-bot Linux Weekly Roundup: Wine 6.0, Fedora i3 Spin, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146588 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Weekly Roundup: Wine 6.0, Fedora i3 Spin, and More | Tux Machines [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [08:57] techrights-bot Linux 5.11-rc4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146587 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.11-rc4 | Tux Machines [08:58] techrights-bot You Can Now Buy the #PinePhone #Mobian Community Editionc#Linux Phone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146585 [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Buy the PinePhone Mobian Community Edition Linux Phone | Tux Machines [08:59] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:59] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, January 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-171-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:59] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index ● Jan 18 [09:00] techrights-bot Review: #CRUX 3.6.1, #NuTyX 20.12.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146586 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: CRUX 3.6.1, NuTyX 20.12.0 | Tux Machines [09:00] techrights-bot #Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines [09:01] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146590 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:01] techrights-bot #Linux M1 Chip Mac: #Corellium Releases Early Beta of New OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146229#comment-27841 [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Aha! This Project is Working to Bring Linux to Apples ARM-based M1 MacBooks | Tux Machines [09:01] techrights-bot #Chafa 1.6.0: Wider http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146593 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chafa 1.6.0: Wider | Tux Machines [09:02] techrights-bot Rotary #UnSmartphone is a rotary dial phone based on #Arduino , 4G LTE module http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146591 [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rotary Un-Smartphone is a rotary dial phone based on Arduino, 4G LTE module | Tux Machines [09:03] techrights-bot #ClusBerry 9500-CM4 A #RaspberryPi CM4 cluster, industrial style http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146592 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ClusBerry 9500-CM4 A Raspberry Pi CM4 cluster, industrial style | Tux Machines [09:04] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/irc-log-170121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 17, 2021 | Techrights [09:04] techrights-bot Goodbye, #Google (2021) http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.831.4 #GAFAM #monopolies #surveillance #espionage [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | Goodbye, Google (2021) - Goodbye, Microsoft [09:08] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [09:14] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [09:15] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [09:17] techrights-bot Set up a minimal server on a Raspberry Pi | https://opensource.com/article/21/1/minimal-server-raspberry-pi #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [09:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Set up a minimal server on a Raspberry Pi | Opensource.com [09:20] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146594 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [09:23] techrights-bot #Security Auditing Tools For #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146595 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Auditing Tools For Ubuntu | Tux Machines [09:25] schestowitz DaemonFC[m] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80 [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:25] schestowitz I see the experiments are conducted and showing some early findings [09:25] schestowitz 'in vivo' [09:25] schestowitz no testing needed, just spread it to many people, see what happens [09:25] schestowitz allergies, old age... [09:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.18 [09:32] schestowitz I could use some help with https://hpjansson.org/chafa/ [09:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hpjansson.org | Chafa: Terminal Graphics for the 21st Century [09:32] schestowitz an old version of it is in the buster (Debian) repo [09:33] schestowitz there was a release this weekend, which adds support for more unicode chars [09:33] schestowitz that lets 79-chars-wide portrayals of images work better [09:34] schestowitz for daily bulletins I now use: chafa -c none -w 9 -s 78 --symbols all [filename] [09:34] schestowitz but I a sure we can get crisper images than this [09:34] schestowitz examples of what we currently have in http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt [09:35] schestowitz in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146593 there's a mention of new feature for glyphs, but the version I have does not support that [09:35] schestowitz maybe we can get vastly better images somehow, esp. if we get a later version, but need to test how good an output we can get from these in practice [09:36] schestowitz Japan-Korea-China symbols add lots of expressiveness to the visuals that make up an imahe [09:36] schestowitz *image [09:38] Techrights-sec Hmm. Animated images ought to have finite loops. [09:38] Techrights-sec Is chafa in the backports repository? [09:39] schestowitz have not checked, but with apt/aptitude it's easy to check, it's a very handy utility... been looking for something like this for MONTHS [09:40] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [09:40] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:40] Techrights-sec I haven't used it but Gifcurry might be another option for converting [09:40] Techrights-sec video clips to animated PNG or GIF [09:41] schestowitz Those are very different things. This one is for static images in the terminal, with or without colour [09:41] Techrights-sec Also ffmpeg itself: [09:41] Techrights-sec https://linuxhint.com/best_gif_maker_apps_linux/ [09:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Best GIF Maker Apps for Linux Linux Hint [09:43] schestowitz There's an example in the new release note (hours old) and also in today's bulletin, where I test it as part of the script already. I'm sure we can get more crisp images given additional options/glyphs. [09:43] Techrights-sec Oh. Yes, that is different. [09:43] Techrights-sec I wondered about the referfences to unicode... [09:44] Techrights-sec Also 'apt-get source' can be used to grab the source package and [09:44] Techrights-sec then you can download the newest tarball and swap that in and [09:44] Techrights-sec build your own package. It's not too hard even the first time. 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has joined #techrights [11:44] *techrights-bot (~techright@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:44] techrights-bot #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 17th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146597 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 17th, 2021 | Tux Machines [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [11:53] *libertybox (~schestowi@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:53] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [11:53] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 18 [12:25] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [12:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 37.85 [12:46] techrights-bot #BT disconnected us 3 times this morning, an engineer is coming in again tomorrow. What a phenomenal ordeal... over 2 weeks of issues now. About 5 hours on the phone, let aside time wasted on engineer visits, slow connections, restoring connections and sessions... days down the drain [12:48] *Condor has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [12:49] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techrights [12:50] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:54] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [12:56] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [12:56] Techrights-sec Very annoying. Be sure to continue to document every interaction with them. [12:56] *birkoff has quit (*.net *.split) [12:56] *titanbiscuit has quit (*.net *.split) [12:56] *ohama has quit (*.net *.split) [12:57] Techrights-sec It's possible that they might just plain not have the capacity to [12:57] Techrights-sec deliver the bandwidth advertised, nor even more than a tiny fraction [12:57] Techrights-sec of it. [12:59] *vZS1_2 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:59] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-eollhztdgahgofgl) has joined #techrights [12:59] *titanbiscuit (~tbisk@104.200.131.173) has joined #techrights [12:59] *ohama (ohama@cicolina.org) has joined #techrights [12:59] *birkoff has quit (Max SendQ exceeded) ● Jan 18 [13:00] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-esdbyejxmgzopkhw) has joined #techrights [13:00] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [13:00] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [13:00] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [13:00] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-esdbyejxmgzopkhw) has joined #techrights [13:01] schestowitz__ the issue is already escalated to the highest possible tier, AFAIK, and treated almost like emergency at their end. But that alone isn't helping if they cannot figure out what's actually wrong. 2 weeks already... of wasted time. It started 1-2 days before lock-down, so the correlation isn't quite there. Brexit deal? Not sure that's the culprit, either. I've lessened the amount of documenting I do; as I think that at this point it [13:01] schestowitz__ would be of less practical use. 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[13:18] *DaemonFC[m] (daemonfcma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eogyzirorhntklrl) has joined #techrights [13:18] schestowitz__ is it that bad? [13:18] vZS1_2 Yes [13:18] schestowitz__ gentoo also? [13:18] vZS1_2 Even FreeBSD now [13:18] schestowitz__ gnome uses it a lot [13:18] schestowitz__ kde started as well [13:18] vZS1_2 At least in gentoo you can choose to avoid dbus with "-dbus" flag. [13:18] schestowitz__ and kio [13:19] Ariadne dbus is not a great design but i think polkit is far more worrisome [13:19] vZS1_2 I'm in the middle of preparing a RedHat/IBM-free GNU/Linux system and getting rid of dbus is a lot harder than getting rid of systemd [13:19] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I strongly suspect BT is going bonkers [13:19] schestowitz__ no bandwidth [13:19] schestowitz__ they oversell [13:19] Ariadne polkit is basically a root kit [13:19] *amreo[m] (amreomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mbfmppomlvahpsjr) has joined #techrights [13:19] vZS1_2 Get a new ISP [13:20] schestowitz__ same line [13:20] vZS1_2 I don't want anything from Red Hat to get into my new install. [13:20] schestowitz__ unless we get a 4g router [13:20] schestowitz__ I have the number of that, but it's expensive I'm told [13:20] Ariadne i would look into getting an isp run by technical people [13:21] schestowitz__ also not sure how reliable and persistent a connection, set aside long-distance high-intensity connection so maybe more radiation levels [13:21] Ariadne they can investigate your line quality [13:21] schestowitz__ they do tomorrow [13:21] schestowitz__ in less than 24 hours, they booked a visit already [13:21] schestowitz__ second in 5 days [13:21] schestowitz__ they found no issue with the line, I'm quite sure it's just throttling [13:21] vZS1_2 systemd is easy to kick out [13:21] vZS1_2 pam and dbus a lot harder [13:22] vZS1_2 pam even made its way into FreeBSD and NetBSD [13:22] Ariadne pam itself is from sun originally [13:22] vZS1_2 To my knowledge, OpenBSD is the only PAM-free *nix [13:22] Ariadne alpine is pam-free [13:22] vZS1_2 It's practically controlled by Red-Hat [13:22] Ariadne not dbus free though [13:23] Ariadne i guess i should clarify that [13:23] Ariadne alpine has pam but you have to install it if you want it [13:24] Ariadne but if you want to get rid of pam [13:24] Ariadne you should avoid glibc [13:24] Ariadne glibc does not even support shadow passwords without pam [13:25] vZS1_2 I'll probably have to go in steps with my Gentoo config. Doesn't seem like I'll be able to kick everything IBM out in one go. [13:26] vZS1_2 Even Emacs has dbus baked into it now. I didn't even realise. [13:27] vZS1_2 I think Emacs can be compiled without dbus support though [13:27] schestowitz__ emacs is connected to lots of stuff [13:27] schestowitz__ some in shithub [13:27] vZS1_2 I am aware [13:27] schestowitz__ but you can compile without those [13:28] schestowitz__ figosdev looked into it, iirc [13:28] schestowitz__ As did others... [13:28] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: BT is sending another new router [13:28] schestowitz__ like that's magically going to overcome throttling [13:29] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: Ideally, you should use your own router. [13:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.41 [13:29] vZS1_2 A router which you can SSH into. [13:29] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: that too would not solve the issue, I find it hard to believe it would [13:29] vZS1_2 Oh, it's not for the throttling. Just for your convenience. [13:29] vZS1_2 Most routers these days are GUI-only. [13:29] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: the bt home hub can be configured for ssh inwards [13:29] vZS1_2 Which means no automation [13:30] vZS1_2 Just make sure your new router retains that SSH functionality [13:30] schestowitz__ the latest home hub... does it support that [13:30] schestowitz__ they once sent us a new one that broke vpn [13:30] schestowitz__ openvpn [13:30] schestowitz__ ceased to work [13:30] schestowitz__ and other people said online they had experienced the same thing [13:33] vZS1_2 The OpenWrt people are a good bunch to ask, for this kind of stuff. [13:34] *DaemonFC[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [13:34] *amreo[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:35] CrystalMath MinceR: Vladimir Putin has more trust and support in Serbia than in Russia :P [13:35] vZS1_2 They have an IRC on freenode under #openwrt [13:35] CrystalMath MinceR: according to polls [13:37] techrights-bot #RaspberryPi and #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146601 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:39] Ariadne freenode is another problem the FOSS world needs to deal with [13:40] Ariadne it is owned by a private party now [13:40] schestowitz__ someone said PIA [13:40] schestowitz__ is that true? [13:40] vZS1_2 That's not too big an issue. You don't need much bandwidth to self-host an IRC server. [13:40] Ariadne yes, but we need to kick freenode to the curb and actually do that :) [13:40] vZS1_2 Well, do it then. lol [13:41] Ariadne i already did for my projects [13:41] schestowitz__ even gnu and fsf still use freenode [13:41] schestowitz__ network effect [13:41] schestowitz__ and as yet little incentive or reason to boycott it, afaik [13:41] Ariadne yes just like github [13:41] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: what's PIA? [13:41] schestowitz__ unless you need a strictly private irc network [13:41] schestowitz__ private internet access (VPN) [13:42] schestowitz__ Ariadne: but it's proprietary and MS-owned [13:42] vZS1_2 Oh [13:42] schestowitz__ set aside many more scandals [13:42] schestowitz__ wikileaks had its own irc [13:42] schestowitz__ and it didn't stop an fbi moles picking up and leaking out all the logs [13:43] vZS1_2 It's not about privacy [13:43] vZS1_2 It's about reducing infra dependency [13:44] Ariadne its about not having your service interrupted [13:44] Ariadne because some freenode admin decides they dislike you [13:45] techrights-bot Links 18/1/2021: Weekly Summaries and Linux 5.11 RC4 http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/linux-5-11-rc4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/1/2021: Weekly Summaries and Linux 5.11 RC4 | Techrights [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:46] vZS1_2 I've come to the conclusion that source-based systems like Gentoo are the best way to police user freedom [13:46] vZS1_2 You can actively keep the cancer out by refuse to include in your compiles. [13:47] vZS1_2 s/refuse/refusing/ [13:48] schestowitz__ it has always been true [13:48] schestowitz__ but a tradeoff [13:48] schestowitz__ computation time and ease [13:48] schestowitz__ someone suggested today that I compile chafa [13:48] schestowitz__ I did a video about it 2 hours ago, it's STILL uploading [13:48] schestowitz__ 3 hours for 38MB [13:49] schestowitz__ I'm just thankful that I have a connection in general, even if super-slow and interrupted every time they unilaterally decide to "test your line" [13:49] vZS1_2 For my multimedia station, I barely compile anything. [13:49] vZS1_2 That made me a bit complacent [13:49] schestowitz__ having no connection at all is a little hell, esp. as so many things depend on a connection being available [13:50] vZS1_2 I think you underestimate the value of switching providers. [13:50] MinceR CrystalMath: maybe he should move to serbia then [13:50] vZS1_2 BT are known to throttle everyone when they feel like [13:50] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: freenode or Net? [13:50] vZS1_2 ISP [13:50] schestowitz__ this is the first time I have such an issue with them [13:51] schestowitz__ in 10 years [13:51] schestowitz__ I must have paid them like 4000-5000 quid in bills [13:51] vZS1_2 If it goes on for too long, you should consider switching. [13:51] schestowitz__ that's like a car [13:51] vZS1_2 Maybe give them another 6 months [13:51] schestowitz__ that long? [13:51] vZS1_2 That's a reasonable timeline. [13:51] schestowitz__ no, it they don't fix it this week, I shall leave and demand a refund [13:52] vZS1_2 Well, that's probably even better. [13:52] schestowitz__ they get you to pay in advance and then look for excuses to deny refunds [13:52] vZS1_2 You shouldn't tolerate terrible servic [13:52] vZS1_2 When there are so many alternatives [13:52] schestowitz__ historicallt they have a major f-up every 5 years2 [13:52] schestowitz__ 2011, 2015, 2021 [13:52] vZS1_2 Are all your neighbours on BT as well? [13:52] schestowitz__ aside from those major issues, much of the rest was not too bad tbh [13:53] schestowitz__ I think one neighbour uses virgin [13:53] schestowitz__ well, used [13:53] schestowitz__ she left [13:53] vZS1_2 You don't even have 1Mb/s upload [13:53] vZS1_2 That's unacceptable under any provider in the UK [13:53] schestowitz__ I used to have that [13:53] vZS1_2 This isn't some backwater country [13:53] schestowitz__ they restored it last Thursday [13:53] schestowitz__ and then something happened again [13:54] schestowitz__ ipfs does 30 upstream and 60 downtstream a month [13:54] schestowitz__ but that's too little to justify throttling [13:54] schestowitz__ 30gb that is [13:54] vZS1_2 I upload multiple terabytes a month [13:54] vZS1_2 Under Talktalk [13:54] vZS1_2 Never been throttled [13:54] schestowitz__ I heard their support is worse than awful [13:54] schestowitz__ and line keeps dropping [13:54] schestowitz__ maybe region-dependent [13:55] vZS1_2 Maybe the line drops 2 or 3 times a year [13:55] vZS1_2 But not more than that [13:55] vZS1_2 Most ISPs suffer the same [13:55] vZS1_2 They don't advertise it [13:55] schestowitz__ how long for? [13:55] schestowitz__ momentary? [13:55] vZS1_2 about 45 mins, usually [13:55] schestowitz__ forced reboot? [13:55] schestowitz__ ah, see... I did not have such an issue with BT [13:56] schestowitz__ which is what I meant by no downtime [13:56] schestowitz__ I'd rather have a slow connection than none at all (for more than a few minutes) [13:56] schestowitz__ I do all the IRC logging from my PCs here, the server side is used for backup if a home outage is long enough [13:56] schestowitz__ but what you say reaffirms the downtime issues of talktalk [13:57] *psydroid (psydroidma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ifigrydcwaxbvavn) has joined #techrights [13:57] vZS1_2 You shouldn't build anything with the assumption of no downtime [13:57] vZS1_2 Just saying [13:57] schestowitz__ I think there's a good chance that by week's end they'll restore it and it'll stick... given that it's assigned to the Executive Team as a special case [13:57] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I don't, that's why I have server-side fallback [13:58] schestowitz__ in the past MinceR kindly send my by email or other means stuff which was missing from logs [13:58] schestowitz__ cubeman_ also logs it from Canada [13:58] vZS1_2 I've also got a logger coming. But I'm working on system migration first. [13:59] schestowitz__ with ipfs now set up here (and not sure how many mirrors or nodes that pin the cids) it's another reason to lower downtime [13:59] CrystalMath MinceR: Trump actually fared poorly in that pool, even losing to Angela Merkel [13:59] CrystalMath *poll [13:59] CrystalMath and she lost to Xi Jinping :P [13:59] vZS1_2 You've got at least one full IPFS mirror from me [13:59] schestowitz__ thanks! [13:59] schestowitz__ is ti stable now? [13:59] vZS1_2 Let me check [13:59] schestowitz__ you had stability issues ● Jan 18 [14:00] vZS1_2 Yeah. But that's my fauly. Experimenting [14:00] vZS1_2 fault* [14:00] schestowitz__ I planned to overcome dns last night, but ended up adding images to bulletins instead [14:00] MinceR CrystalMath: so russians are more clueful than they're being given credit for? [14:00] schestowitz__ I am still tinkering with image options [14:00] vZS1_2 IPNS only takes a few minutes. Make sure to backup the keys btw. [14:00] schestowitz__ as covered in the video I upload at this moment [14:01] vZS1_2 As long as your keys are backed up you have no worries [14:01] vZS1_2 My ipfs daemon is still up [14:01] schestowitz__ maybe later this week [14:02] vZS1_2 I've got many friends hooked on IPFS now [14:02] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ttyytspgsmrycykm) has joined #techrights [14:02] vZS1_2 They use it instead of sites like Imgur [14:02] vZS1_2 Mostly through the desktop client [14:03] techrights-bot Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/going-from-bad-to-worse-evidence-for-neuro-covid-infections.html "effects in the liver as well as neurological tissues." [14:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections [14:04] vZS1_2 I still encourage use of BitTorrent as a fallback [14:04] vZS1_2 The only issue with BitTorrent is that you still need to use trackers if you're sharing files that have small demand. [14:04] *DaemonFC[m] (daemonfcma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dweufziexuazqvtf) has joined #techrights [14:04] vZS1_2 BitTorrent's DHT is practically unusable for low-demand files. You need a tracker. [14:05] techrights-bot "grace period variances between the five largest patent offices in the worldthose of China, the United States, the Republic of Korea, Japan, and the European Uniondecrease the likelihood of international coordination" https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3724615 [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | A Uniform Grace Period: Promoting International Research and Development Collaboration by Karen Sandrik :: SSRN [14:05] vZS1_2 Whereas the IPFS DHT means even low-demand files are easily found. [14:06] techrights-bot Is Mr. #wallstreet #lobbying against #patent quality, as usual? https://news.bloomberglaw.com/pharma-and-life-sciences/are-patent-judges-unconstitutional-the-arthrex-case-explained #ptab #uspto [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE [14:06] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:06] vZS1_2 Another nice thing about IPFS is that programmers can use it as a pastebin straight from the CLI [14:06] techrights-bot Biden Can Lower Drug Prices Without Congress Doing Anything https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/05/drug-prices-patent-office-generics-biden/ #patents #monopolies #cartel #pricefixing #patent [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Biden can lower drug prices without Congress doing anything - The Washington Post [14:07] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:08] techrights-bot #apple piling up lousy or shallow #patents for when the business collapses and all that's left is #patent ammo (see Blackberry and Nokia) https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2021/01/11/apple-tv-could-have-brilliantly-different-remote-control-patent-reveals/ [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Apple TV Could Have Brilliantly Different Remote Control, Patent Reveals [14:08] vZS1_2 What's a bit concerning is that the IPFS people are spending a lot of resources on some wacky project called Filecoin [14:08] vZS1_2 Instead of fully devoting their time on IPFS they're pursuing this "incentivization". [14:09] vZS1_2 Completely misguided and waste of resources IMO [14:09] techrights-bot "Life Sciences IP" is just fancy crypto-language for #patent #monopolies on #life and #nature -- #patents that are antithetical to the law and to morals https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/2020-highlights-in-canadian-life-4611037/ [14:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2020 Highlights in Canadian Life Sciences IP and Regulatory Law | Smart & Biggar - JDSupra [14:10] techrights-bot When #patents (barons' monopolies) matter a lot more than patients and death is OK... so long as profits grow https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/drug-patent-database-revamp-falls-short-of-tackling-high-costs [14:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE [14:12] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: what is the likelihood that BT caps me due to ipfs? [14:12] schestowitz__ and their algo penalises us? [14:12] *amreo[m] (amreomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nhnisxmtwuaksrmw) has joined #techrights [14:13] techrights-bot "At least 100,000 people have fled their homes in Central African Republic as a rebel coalition calling for the resignation of the president launches attacks around the county" https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2021/01/18/central-african-republic-elections-rebellion-refugees [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Thousands flee rebel attacks in Central African Republic [14:14] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: tbh, I can't really tell. [14:14] vZS1_2 I'm not a BT insider [14:14] vZS1_2 Nor do I know any [14:14] techrights-bot Painting thugs, bullies, patent trolls and profiteers who facilitate monopolies with the "diversity" brush to manufacture consent on the cheap https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q4943p9cqp14/five-ways-ip-firms-furthered-diversity-and-inclusion-last-year [14:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Five ways IP firms furthered diversity and inclusion last year | Managing Intellectual Property [14:17] techrights-bot Nazi Aryanisation of [propagnda term] - and contemporary efforts to restore it http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/nazi-aryanisation-of-intellectual.html [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Nazi Aryanisation of intellectual property - and contemporary efforts to restore it - The IPKat [14:21] techrights-bot These zealots don't care about your health. They only care about #patents on #vaccines as that helps barons steal taxpayers' money... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/ifim-event-year-of-covid-vaccines.html [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | IFIM event: The Year of the COVID Vaccines - The IPKat [14:24] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:25] schestowitz__ [14:14] I'm not a BT insider [14:25] schestowitz__ two thibngs [14:26] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:26] schestowitz__ 1) they mentioned nothing to that effect [14:26] schestowitz__ 2) it had run with similar b/w levels for at least a month prior. An automated capping system would not take time to "activate". [14:26] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: will let you know how I get on [14:26] schestowitz__ they offered compensation, which is admission of guilt [14:26] schestowitz__ it was also escalated very high [14:27] schestowitz__ so it shows they're aware of impending ofcom involvement and try to defuse that [14:27] schestowitz__ as it has merit [14:28] techrights-bot Adding Images as Characters to the Daily Bulletins of Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/daily-bulletins-with-images/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Adding Images as Characters to the Daily Bulletins of Techrights | Techrights [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [14:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.63 [14:30] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:31] vZS1_2 Yes, they are legally obliged to meet every Ofcom regulation. [14:31] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:31] vZS1_2 So keep pushing that avenue. It seems to be working. [14:31] schestowitz__ the way I see it [14:32] schestowitz__ it's like reserves duty, every 5 years, wherein I have to combat them to keep my connection up to standatd [14:32] schestowitz__ as I said, this happens every 5 years or so [14:32] schestowitz__ in between it can be very reliable, calm, almost smooth sailing [14:32] vZS1_2 Yeah. Looks like it. Most wouldn't bother with the trouble. [14:32] schestowitz__ yup! [14:32] schestowitz__ that's what I keep saying [14:32] schestowitz__ and it looks like their original strategy with me [14:32] schestowitz__ but it's getting expensive for them [14:33] schestowitz__ 5 phone hours, inc. with their high-paid managers [14:33] schestowitz__ plus bad publciity [14:33] vZS1_2 Not to mention they are breaking the law [14:33] schestowitz__ possibly 3 separate formal complaints by now, ofcom next [14:33] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I would not put it as you did [14:33] schestowitz__ those are regulations [14:33] schestowitz__ laws and regulations are different terms [14:33] schestowitz__ and the penalties vary [14:34] schestowitz__ they don't meet their side of the contract [14:34] schestowitz__ hence they said they'd refund me this month's bill [14:34] schestowitz__ but the time wasted on this is tremendous, even without counting the time just lost to the low speeds [14:34] vZS1_2 Disruption of work on top of that [14:34] schestowitz__ each time they answer the phone and send en engineer it costs them too [14:35] schestowitz__ so I bring them to wrestle at their own (joint) expense, not only mine [14:35] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: for 2+ weeks now [14:35] schestowitz__ and not just me, wife also [14:35] schestowitz__ she works from home [14:35] psydroid how come they didn't invest more in infrastructure for the past 20+ years? [14:35] schestowitz__ we need to treat Internet now like water supply [14:35] schestowitz__ as people can become unemployed if they lose their Net link [14:35] schestowitz__ and they cannot go elsewhere, it's illegal under Tier 5 [14:36] schestowitz__ psydroid: me? [14:36] schestowitz__ like dual ISP? [14:36] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:36] schestowitz__ very expensive for very little gain [14:36] psydroid schestowitz_, I mean BT [14:36] schestowitz__ oh, BT [14:36] schestowitz__ we were busy brexit means brexit [14:36] schestowitz__ we SHOW em [14:36] schestowitz__ days after brexit deal... BOOM! We lost capacity here [14:37] schestowitz__ you might joke thatg EU punishing us by capping underwater capacity thresholds for not-so-EU-UK [14:37] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:37] schestowitz__ a friend of mine jokes to that effect [14:37] schestowitz__ maybe if we dig deep enough it'll turn out they hide something rather big [14:37] schestowitz__ as they never want to directly answer questions I ask about it [14:37] schestowitz__ even their top managers [14:38] vZS1_2 BT make their money by leverage. They "own" most of the infrastructure. Other providers "rent" it from them.# [14:38] vZS1_2 Nothing to do with research or innovation [14:38] schestowitz__ it means they have advantage, too [14:38] schestowitz__ and being their 'client' can get you dealt with faster [14:39] schestowitz__ like 'open'reach [14:39] schestowitz__ openwash [14:39] vZS1_2 Yeah. Every time I see "open" prefixed to something, I now get immediately suspicious. [14:39] schestowitz__ tbh, they can be OK for 4-5 years, but it's when this type of stuff happens that you can lose a month [14:39] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: they now call open the vaccine [14:40] schestowitz__ the whole passport thing [14:40] schestowitz__ they call it open [14:40] vZS1_2 That's why I always say "Freedom-respecting Software" or "Software Freedom" [14:40] schestowitz__ [19:04] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/tech/coronavirus-vaccine-records-microsoft-salesforce/index.html [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft, Oracle and other tech giants team up Covid-19 vaccine 'passports' - CNN [14:40] vZS1_2 Never "Open" [14:40] schestowitz__ [19:04] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Microsoft, Oracle and and other tech giants Salesforce team up Covid-19 vaccine 'passports' - CNN [14:40] schestowitz__ [19:04] schestowitz: Now they use "open source" to refer to something that's not even about open source software at all. [14:40] schestowitz__ I said last yeat [14:40] schestowitz__ open source is dead [14:40] schestowitz__ osi did not police the brand [14:40] schestowitz__ now it's 101% meaningless [14:41] schestowitz__ let's see if they can kill the FreeSW brand too [14:41] vZS1_2 This is why I am also against "FOSS" [14:41] vZS1_2 The word [14:41] schestowitz__ without alluding to "free" stuff [14:41] schestowitz__ we need to say "Freedom" [14:41] vZS1_2 Exactly [14:41] schestowitz__ harder to bend the latter's meaning [14:41] schestowitz__ I don't say FOSS anymore [14:41] vZS1_2 Freedom should always be used instead of Free [14:41] schestowitz__ gives more letters to the attack on FS than to FS itself [14:42] schestowitz__ notice thqat techrights never uses the OS term [14:42] schestowitz__ it used to, or to give them "equal time" [14:42] schestowitz__ I did some article a week ago on why we should all dump "Open Source" [14:42] schestowitz__ OSI surrendered [14:42] schestowitz__ the GM quit [14:42] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:42] schestowitz__ Now it's run by a bunch of dolls and corporates [14:42] vZS1_2 We should s/Free Software/Software Freedom/ [14:42] schestowitz__ nobody who even codes [14:43] vZS1_2 It's important and needs to be done [14:43] schestowitz__ which I guess is what the openwashing agenda strived for all along [14:43] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:43] schestowitz__ I am doing a post about EPO ATM [14:43] schestowitz__ SHTF [14:43] vZS1_2 "Free Software" is terribly misleading and has been a detriment to the real movement since they used that stupid name. [14:43] schestowitz__ will set aside the Intel series and FSF series for now [14:44] schestowitz__ yes, RMS has regrets [14:44] schestowitz__ but... [14:44] schestowitz__ as we explained, they'd find some other way to extinguish what he coined... if it was just a semantic difference [14:44] schestowitz__ the issue is the concept [14:44] schestowitz__ not linguistics [14:44] schestowitz__ the media now associates coup with "riot" and "free speech" with nazism [14:45] schestowitz__ freedom is what they call armed libertarians with semi-automatic rifles [14:45] schestowitz__ You can control what you call yourself [14:45] schestowitz__ you cannot: [14:45] schestowitz__ 1) control what people call you [14:45] schestowitz__ 2) of what they think of you, which relates to (1) [14:45] vZS1_2 The reality is when someone hears "Free Software" they first think about price. Branding is important [14:45] schestowitz__ the media plays a considerable role [14:45] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: you can bypass that [14:46] schestowitz__ 5 second [14:46] schestowitz__ when I say "free" I mean "it respects your rights and freedom" [14:46] schestowitz__ and there, carry on with the conversation [14:46] vZS1_2 That's entirely unnecessary and you don't need to waste time with explanations if you just went [14:46] schestowitz__ we wrote a lot about it 2019-2020 [14:46] schestowitz__ OSS is based on a lie [14:46] vZS1_2 "Software Freedom Foundation" [14:46] vZS1_2 Fixed [14:46] vZS1_2 No more problem [14:46] schestowitz__ that they overcome the "language" issue [14:47] schestowitz__ that's a corporate red rerring (and was that... all along) [14:47] schestowitz__ *herring [14:47] schestowitz__ it's concern trolling [14:47] schestowitz__ you end up bickering about language [14:47] schestowitz__ not concepts [14:47] schestowitz__ and writing foolish essays about Englishj [14:47] schestowitz__ not privacy, code etc. [14:48] vZS1_2 To most people, the name on the tin matters, believe it or not. [14:48] schestowitz__ like the GNOME Foundation now does... [14:48] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: so alias it [14:48] vZS1_2 I do. I never say "Free Software" [14:48] schestowitz__ "i support free software, by which I mean I support freedom of users and developers to control their computing" [14:48] schestowitz__ it's not really the point imo [14:48] schestowitz__ there are many other facets to discuss [14:48] vZS1_2 I don't use the term "free software" altogether [14:49] schestowitz__ like antimonopoly, which then leads to patents [14:49] schestowitz__ so you entertain all those different angles [14:49] schestowitz__ and call them whatever you want,... the umbrella term isn't what matters most [14:49] schestowitz__ the arguments that go with it matter [14:49] schestowitz__ title versus summarfy [14:49] vZS1_2 To the average joe "I support software freedom" and "I support free software" means two vastly different things. [14:49] schestowitz__ titles matter, but clickbait with no substance beneath it won't stick [14:50] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: you can say either [14:50] schestowitz__ software freedom is also vague to most people [14:50] schestowitz__ they think they're free to buy iphone of android [14:50] schestowitz__ choice [14:50] schestowitz__ not freedom [14:50] schestowitz__ so the old schtick of microsoft is to conflate these two... we gave many actual and present examples over the years [14:51] schestowitz__ they even called whole institutions something "choice"... to lobby and mislead [14:52] techrights-bot Stadia 'State Share' to launch with #HITMAN3 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/stadia-state-share-to-launch-with-hitman-3 #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stadia 'State Share' to launch with HITMAN 3 | GamingOnLinux [14:53] vZS1_2 I support Software Freedoms [14:53] vZS1_2 Which freedoms? [14:53] vZS1_2 4 freedoms. Provide list [14:54] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:56] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [14:57] techrights-bot Wine compat layer devs discuss new Kernel interface to better match Windows NT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27844 [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines [14:59] techrights-bot "So the Linux version sold approximately 340 copies which at their normal price of 7.19 that would be somewhere around 2,444.6 (it went on sale once previously, so likely a bit lower). For a small indie developer, that can make all the difference." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/bytten-studio-say-not-to-sleep-on-linux-in-their-postmortem-for-lennas-inception [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bytten Studio say not to sleep on Linux in their postmortem for Lenna's Inception | GamingOnLinux [14:59] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: see? that goes beyond 2 words already ● Jan 18 [15:00] schestowitz__ and those freedoms might not say much to a lot of people [15:00] schestowitz__ because even things like programs and modifying them are foreign concepts [15:00] schestowitz__ you say "app" now [15:00] schestowitz__ "app your ----" [15:01] vZS1_2 I didn't say that we don't go beyond two words. I'm just saying the original term is bad marketing [15:01] techrights-bot How to steal #freesoftware (and do it badly) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYpZpTCUFA I like the fact Gardiner Bryant says #freesw now ;-) [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to steal free software (and do it badly) - YouTube [15:01] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: it is [15:02] schestowitz__ rms told me he sort of regretted it but it's too late (iirc) [15:02] schestowitz__ some people suggested liberty something [15:02] vZS1_2 Well, at least we aren't forced to say it ourselves [15:03] techrights-bot "Irena Genesis Metal Fury looks awesome too and the developer, White Ninja Studio, aren't ignoring #GNU #Linux either." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/irena-genesis-metal-fury-is-an-upcoming-shoot-em-up-for-the-sega-mega-drive [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Irena Genesis Metal Fury is an upcoming shoot 'em up for the Sega Mega Drive | GamingOnLinux [15:04] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: true [15:04] schestowitz__ geez, I wish I could go back to a functional connection [15:04] schestowitz__ it really impacts what I do and when... cannot be productive so far this year [15:04] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:04] techrights-bot #techrights daily bulletins now have inside them coarse graphics, depicted using characters alone, and the tool used to generate them announced a new release earlier today; we showcase some of its features (in a new video) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/daily-bulletins-with-images/ [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Adding Images as Characters to the Daily Bulletins of Techrights | Techrights [15:06] techrights-bot Monopolists with #patents quipped by hugely corrupt #epo that breaks the law every single day (but it serves oligarchs, so nobody does anything about the EPO's crimes regardless of their severity) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/nokia-intervenes-for-kpn-in-second-dsl-technology-case-against-assia/ [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Nokia intervenes for KPN in second DSL technology case against Assia - JUVE Patent [15:13] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20071336 [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4750805) [15:19] vZS1_2 They did Dumbledore dirty in that new Fantastic Beasts film. 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[15:22] techrights-bot Install #Inkscape 1.0.2 In Ubuntu / LinuxMint / Debian | Tips On UNIX https://www.tipsonunix.com/2021/01/install-inkscape-1-0-2-in-ubuntu-linuxmint-debian/ #tipsonunix [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tipsonunix.com | Install Inkscape 1.0.2 In Ubuntu / LinuxMint / Debian | Tips On UNIX [15:23] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20071230 [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4748183) [15:23] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [15:28] techrights-bot building a simple #KVM switch for 30 https://www.die-welt.net/2021/01/building-a-simple-kvm-switch-for-30eur/ #diewelt | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-building a simple KVM switch for 30 | die-welt.net [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.43 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.68 [15:30] techrights-bot #opensuse uses #jitsi https://news.opensuse.org/2021/01/18/meetup-will-discuss-survey-results-project-improvements/ #suse #gnu #linux [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Meetup Will Discuss Survey Results, Project Improvements - openSUSE News [15:31] techrights-bot Linux Support Is Coming To Allow De-Authorizing #Thunderbolt Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146602 #GNU #Kernel #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Support Is Coming To Allow De-Authorizing Thunderbolt Devices | Tux Machines [15:31] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [15:31] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:34] techrights-bot Games: Stadia, Harvest Days, Lennas Inception and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146603 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Harvest Days, Lenna's Inception and More | Tux Machines [15:35] techrights-bot An introduction to hashing and checksums in Linux | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/hashing-checksums #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | An introduction to hashing and checksums in Linux | Enable Sysadmin [15:36] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:37] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [15:38] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146604 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:42] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [15:43] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:50] *cybrNaut- has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:51] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [15:53] vZS1_2 Saw the article on Chafa. 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The @USPTO could use someone like #MichelleLee again. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/project-proposals-administration.html [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Day One Project: USPTO Proposals for the Biden Administration | Patently-O [17:31] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:31] techrights-bot Create Bootable #USB Using Etcher in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146605 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Create Bootable USB Using Etcher in Linux | Tux Machines [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:33] Techrights-sec https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-day-demands-capitol-rioters-white-supremacists-face-swift-justice-ncna1254489 [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | MLK Day demands that Capitol rioters and white supremacists face swift justice [17:33] schestowitz__ let's hijack mlk to do the very thing which was used to arrest him and get him killed (allegedly) [17:34] techrights-bot So... let's hijack #mlk to do the very thing which was used to arrest him and get him killed (allegedly) https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-day-demands-capitol-rioters-white-supremacists-face-swift-justice-ncna1254489 [17:34] Techrights-sec Many hijack his legacy, or try to hijack it, to advance racism. [17:34] Techrights-sec \ [17:35] schestowitz__ Maybe they should mention what he thought about the military and capitalism ;p) (same for Malala for that matter) [17:36] Techrights-sec "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." [17:36] Techrights-sec That's the opposite of what's happnening on many fronts. [17:36] Techrights-sec Yep. His thoughts on the military and capitalism are usually brushed under [17:36] Techrights-sec the rug. [17:37] schestowitz__ BillByCee https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-44235156 [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Steve Bannon: Martin Luther King would be proud of Trump - BBC News [17:37] Techrights-sec https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/liberation-curriculum/classroom-resources/king-quotes-war-and-peace [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kinginstitute.stanford.edu | King Quotes on War and Peace | The Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute [17:38] Techrights-sec 'This is where we are. "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an [17:38] Techrights-sec end to mankind," and the best way to start is to put an end to war in [17:38] Techrights-sec Vietnam, because if it continues, we will inevitably come to the point [17:38] Techrights-sec of confronting China which could lead the whole world to nuclear [17:38] Techrights-sec annihilation.' [17:39] schestowitz__ BillbyCee as megaphone for racists and misogynists to help rile up the public against anyone but oligarchy [17:41] Techrights-sec Yes BBC is overing for the oligarchy, among other problems it makes worse. [17:41] schestowitz__ I've quit even using Billby for weather and football, I use just the CLI now [17:42] Techrights-sec BTW although you've been busy, did you have a chance to look [17:42] Techrights-sec at the transcript from the video link? [17:42] Techrights-sec https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/how-tech-loses-out [17:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-berthub.eu | How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents - Articles [17:42] schestowitz__ No, I will link to it now [17:45] techrights-bot The age of DELIBERATELY delayed reckonings https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-age-of-deliberately-delayed-reckonings/ #nytimes [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | The age of DELIBERATELY delayed reckonings | Stop at Zona-M [17:46] techrights-bot YOU are the product. https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/with-smart-apps-and-media-you-are-the-product.-even.../ move to #freesw ... you will never regret that, especially in this Orwellian world/society. [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | With "smart" apps and media, YOU are the product. Even... | Stop at Zona-M [17:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2012242 [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5122568) [17:47] techrights-bot To #facebook you are just a disposable product. Not a person. Not an individual. A disposable product to mistreat, abuse, mislead and punish. https://www.theitstuff.com/whatsapp-privacy-policy-2021 [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WhatsApp Privacy Policy 2021 - Account Suspension Date Extended. | TheITstuff [17:51] techrights-bot "Smart" just means it's connected to a microphone with back doors https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/18/cybovac-s31-review-a-smart-robot-vacuum-cleaner-with-visual-slam-support/ [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Cybovac S31 Review - A smart robot vacuum cleaner with visual SLAM support [17:51] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [17:56] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ● Jan 18 [18:02] techrights-bot Visualizing system performance with #RHEL 8 using Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and #Grafana (Part 1) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/visualizing-system-performance-rhel-8-using-performance-co-pilot-pcp-and-grafana-part-1 #RedHat #IBM #Linux [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Visualizing system performance with RHEL 8 using Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and Grafana (Part 1) [18:03] techrights-bot "Self-care is hard. Even before 2020, disconnecting and letting our minds and bodies rest was no picnic" https://opensource.com/article/21/1/self-care [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tips for incorporating self-care into your daily routine | Opensource.com [18:05] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [18:07] techrights-bot #TeamUPC keeps trotting out those lies about UPC being merely "delayed" -- a lie they certainly tell their clients to save face https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/erneut-verzoegerungen-beim-eu-einheitspatent see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/ [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pinsentmasons.com | European Unified Patent Court is delayed again [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court | Techrights [18:11] techrights-bot A Miniature VT102 Running A Miniature #PDP11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146607 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Miniature VT102 Running A Miniature PDP11 | Tux Machines [18:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [18:12] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [18:16] techrights-bot #Haruna Video Player: An Open-Source Qt-based MPV GUI Front-end for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146608 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haruna Video Player: An Open-Source Qt-based MPV GUI Front-end for Linux | Tux Machines [18:17] techrights-bot Upgrading #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146606 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines "Given I work for Canonical, this isnt especially surprising." [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upgrading Ubuntu | Tux Machines [18:19] techrights-bot #KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 (2) | [bobulate] https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/01/18/board2.html #euroquis #gnu #linux #freebsd [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 (2) | [bobulate] [18:20] techrights-bot #GeeXboX 20210117 is out today or yesterday http://www.geexbox.org/ #gnu #linux [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to GeeXboX.org! [18:21] techrights-bot Text Encoding Menu of #mozilla #firefox in 2021 https://hsivonen.fi/encoding-menu-2021/ #language #www #freesw [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hsivonen.fi | Text Encoding Menu in 2021 [18:22] techrights-bot #GCC 11 Is On The Final Stage Of Development With 60+ High Priority Regressions - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-11-Hits-Stage-4 #GNU #freesw [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GCC 11 Is On The Final Stage Of Development With 60+ High Priority Regressions - Phoronix [18:23] techrights-bot #mozilla #firefox "For users who have telemetry [sic] ( #surveillance ) enabled, we collect data about whether the item Automatic was used at least once in given Firefox subsession" "https://hsivonen.fi/encoding-menu-2021/ [18:27] techrights-bot #ncmpcpp featureful #ncurses based #MPD client inspired by #ncmpc http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146610 #Linux #deletegithub [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ncmpcpp featureful ncurses based MPD client inspired by ncmpc | Tux Machines [18:27] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [18:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.01 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.30 [18:33] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.10.8, 5.4.90, 4.19.168, 4.14.216, 4.9.252 , and 4.4.252 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146609 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.8, 5.4.90, 4.19.168, 4.14.216, 4.9.252 , and 4.4.252 | Tux Machines [18:35] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [18:36] techrights-bot Stephen Michael Kellat: Leveraging LaTeX In This Time http://coyote.works//posts/MakeNewspaper20210118/ #latex #tex #typesetting #freesw [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Leveraging LaTeX In This Time [18:40] techrights-bot "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 and some of the applications pre-installed." #gnu #linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6RbuUm9LFw [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 overview | UNITY7 MODERNIZED. - YouTube [18:41] techrights-bot #HowTo install Signal Private Messenger on Linux | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/45311/install-signal-private-messenger-on-linux.htm Not that I trust it. For MANY reasons. #deletegithub #vault7 #wikileaks [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | How to install Signal Private Messenger on Linux | FOSS Linux [18:48] techrights-bot #UBlock Origin and custom filters - Mini tutorial https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ublock-origin-custom-filters.html #dedoimedo #www [18:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | UBlock Origin and custom filters - Mini tutorial [18:50] techrights-bot apt-key Is Deprecated. How To Add #OpenPGP Repository Signing Keys Without It On Debian, #Ubuntu , Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, Etc. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/01/apt-key-is-deprecated-how-to-add.html #gnu #linux [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | apt-key Is Deprecated. How To Add OpenPGP Repository Signing Keys Without It On Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, Etc. - Linux Uprising Blog [18:52] techrights-bot #LinuxintheHamShack Episode #387: Compiling Software Deep Dive https://lhspodcast.info/2021/01/lhs-episode-387-compiling-software-deep-dive-2/ #lhspodcast #gnu #linux [18:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #387: Compiling Software Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack [18:56] schestowitz__ Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/going-from-bad-to-worse-evidence-for-neuro-covid-infections.html "effects in the liver as well as neurological tissues." [18:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections [18:57] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Fake news. Herd immunity! [18:58] *Achylles (~Achylles@177.45.166.106) has joined #techrights [18:58] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: immunity from impeachment [18:58] schestowitz__ herd=GOP [18:58] DaemonFC[m] We've managed to avoid the Orange Man Flu as far as I know. [18:59] DaemonFC[m] How the hell is he orange? Did we ever figure that out? ● Jan 18 [19:00] DaemonFC[m] The doctor who proclaimed that Trump was the healthiest president ever (then admitted Trump dictated the entire letter) died this month. [19:01] DaemonFC[m] But "healthiest president ever" was not even up for debate. Obama went on long jogs. Trump could barely make it down stairs. [19:01] DaemonFC[m] Trump could barely figure out where he was at, slurred his speech constantly. It was scary. [19:02] DaemonFC[m] The news camera recorded him getting off Air Force One and walking aimlessly away from the plane down the runway until someone noticed. [19:02] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146611 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:08] techrights-bot #intel is falling way behind https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=hifive-inventor-kit&num=1 #sifive #riscv #openhardware [19:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SiFive Helping To Teach Kids Programming With RISC-V HiFive Inventor Coding Kit - Phoronix [19:10] techrights-bot Odin is finally pleased so the open-world survival game Valheim releases on February 2 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/odin-is-finally-pleased-so-the-open-world-survival-game-valheim-releases-on-february-2 "Valheim from Iron Gate AB will enter Early Access with #GNU #Linux ..." [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Odin is finally pleased so the open-world survival game Valheim releases on February 2 | GamingOnLinux [19:14] techrights-bot #JingOS arrives as Chinas first Linux Distro, offers #iPadOS -like features and functions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146598#comment-27847 #GNU #Linux [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | JingOS arrives as Chinas first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions | Tux Machines [19:21] techrights-bot #GNURadio 3.9.0.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146612 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Radio 3.9.0.0 released | Tux Machines [19:23] schestowitz__ [19:02] The news camera recorded him getting off Air Force One and walking aimlessly away from the plane down the runway until someone noticed. [19:23] schestowitz__ his physician died this month [19:23] schestowitz__ aged 73, iirc [19:24] schestowitz__ not too healthy for that occupation [19:24] schestowitz__ also used windows xp [19:24] schestowitz__ so the virus issue was long coming [19:27] techrights-bot "The Xtra-PC #Linux USB-Stick might be your solution if you have problems with your old and slow PC. It's a small flash drive stick and it's using Linux OS to boost you PC's operations. Check out now." https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/18/2160154/0/en/Xtra-PC-Reviews-Best-Linux-USB-Stick-Product-Review-by-Rick-Finn.html [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Xtra-PC Reviews Best Linux USB-Stick? - Product Review by Rick Finn [19:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.18 [19:30] techrights-bot Fact check: As #Wikipedia turns 20, how credible is it? https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-as-wikipedia-turns-20-how-credible-is-it/a-56228222 MSM likes it as long as it perpetuates MSM narratives [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fact check: As Wikipedia turns 20, how credible is it? | Europe| News and current affairs from around the continent | DW | 14.01.2021 [19:30] *Achylles has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:31] techrights-bot Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia is from a different era https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2021/01/jimmy-wales-wikipedia-different-era #newstatesman | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newstatesman.com | Jimmy Wales: Wikipedia is from a different era [19:32] techrights-bot #Wikipedia is twenty. Its time to start covering it better. - #ColumbiaJournalismReview https://www.cjr.org/opinion/wikipedia-is-twenty-its-time-to-start-covering-it-better.php #cjr [19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Wikipedia is twenty. Its time to start covering it better. - Columbia Journalism Review [19:38] XRevan86 https://existentialcomics.com/comic/377 [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Zera Yacob - Existential Comics [19:41] MinceR :) [19:48] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XIX: #Intel s Web Experts Seen as #Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/webops-at-intel/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XIX: Intels Web Experts Seen as Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy | Techrights [19:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [19:49] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/3624658a216cb1e6.jpg [19:50] schestowitz__ who are those for? [19:51] MinceR dunno [19:52] schestowitz__ fruit with legs :0 [19:53] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:54] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [19:58] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Wikipedia is under a sustained corruption effort by sockpuppet accounts. [19:58] DaemonFC[m] They pretty much sanitize articles about large corporations, move criticism to pages people won't read or delete it entirely, etc. [19:58] DaemonFC[m] It has been this way for a long time. [19:59] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 18 [20:00] DaemonFC[m] They let "anyone edit it", but they ban IP addresses of Tor exit nodes and VPN servers. [20:00] vZS1_2 Hola [20:00] DaemonFC[m] So if you make any edits, they have logs of who said that. [20:01] vZS1_2 I've long been skeptical of Wikipedia's articles on corporations. [20:01] DaemonFC[m] Not only won't edits tend to last long, but if they're something that the government doesn't like, they'll know who did it. [20:01] DaemonFC[m] They even delete edit history sometimes. [20:01] vZS1_2 There's a lot of places they're saying Linux deliberately, instead of GNU. [20:02] vZS1_2 When the software is 100% GNU and nothing to do with the Linux kernel [20:03] DaemonFC[m] Before that, you had things like Compton's, Britannica, and Microsoft Encarta. [20:04] DaemonFC[m] Those had other problems. [20:04] DaemonFC[m] They were expensive, became outdated quickly, you had to buy updates to stay current, and there were a limited number of articles that paid staff would write. [20:05] DaemonFC[m] Somewhere in my grandmother's house there was a World Book set from like 1954. [20:05] DaemonFC[m] They actually spent money on that from a door to door encyclopedia salesman. [20:06] DaemonFC[m] I'm sure nobody actually read it. Gonad might have had some fall off and klunk him on the head later, but I don't know. I'll add it to Wikipedia. [20:06] vZS1_2 When you have an anyone-can-edit model, you enevitably end up with people bickering over some things. [20:06] vZS1_2 The problem with Wikipedia is that those arguments often get censored [20:06] vZS1_2 vanishes overnight [20:07] schestowitz__ [19:58] They pretty much sanitize articles about large corporations, move criticism to pages people won't read or delete it entirely, etc. [20:07] schestowitz__ yes, I quit caring about editing wikipedia [20:07] schestowitz__ but I often use it as reference for things [20:08] vZS1_2 The problem is particularly bad for us GNU software users [20:08] vZS1_2 Because you have corporate shills fucking up our history [20:08] vZS1_2 It's not like this for, say, the mathematics side of Wikipedia (which is excellent, overall). [20:09] techrights-bot Too many buzzwords in this headline. Buzzwords and hype overload. https://www.iottechtrends.com/5g-limitations-and-what-they-mean-for-iot/ what has happened to actual journalism? [20:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | 5G Limitations and What They Mean for IoT - IoT Tech Trends [20:09] vZS1_2 Subtle places where they openwash things [20:10] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Wikipedia | Techrights [20:12] techrights-bot #wikipedia turns 20, but is damaged http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ #wikileaks has far better accuracy/crecdibility because it offers OFFICIAL source material. Hence it came after attacks (ad hominem, deplatforming etc.) by oligarchs. [20:15] techrights-bot 3 Helpful Networking Projects for Your #RaspberryPi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146613 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3 Helpful Networking Projects for Your Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:15] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - Old keyboard turned into a new childrens learning toy https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/18/old-keyboard-turned-into-a-new-childrens-learning-toy/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog Old keyboard turned into a new childrens learning toy [20:17] techrights-bot "The course of the #RakuLang #Programming Language by #AndrewShitov made it to the top 20 of #HackerNews and spurred quite a few comments. The first associated Grant Report was also published." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/01/18/2021-03-course-topped/ [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.03 Course Topped Rakudo Weekly News [20:18] techrights-bot Basic #Security For Every #GNU #Linux #Server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB81KEMerRI [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Basic Security For Every Linux Server - YouTube [20:18] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [20:19] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: I'm keeping notes of how hard it is to avoid Red Hat in a contemporary GNU/Linux workstation setup. [20:19] vZS1_2 It's pretty infuriating how much they've infiltrated GNU/Linux. [20:19] DaemonFC[m] Eh, it's like colleges. Holocaust denial and their two minutes hate of all those horrible white people. [20:19] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [20:19] vZS1_2 I'm tossing out PAM, systemd, dbus, etc. [20:19] DaemonFC[m] Which ones? Oh, all of them whether they did anything bad or not. [20:19] DaemonFC[m] They're all the same. Totally not racist. [20:20] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146614 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:20] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/7e7b0edf5e75c8ee.jpg [20:20] vZS1_2 It doesn't help that most things in the "free"desktop project are all Red Hat as well [20:20] DaemonFC[m] Most people are just trying to make it through life as unmolested by The State as they can. [20:20] DaemonFC[m] That makes you an extremist now, though. [20:21] DaemonFC[m] They don't stop until you actually do love big brother. [20:22] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: I'm sure there are other anti-RedHat Gentoo users. I'll try to find them and bring them here. We probably share many things in common. [20:22] DaemonFC[m] I was actually stunned in the 90s that Star Trek Voyager of all things was the first place I saw a sort of "open debate" about where the rights of a person end, as it pertains to suicide. [20:23] DaemonFC[m] The Q Continuum asked Janeway to step in and act as a sort of judge to see if one of their own had the right to end his existence. [20:23] DaemonFC[m] He wasn't sick because they don't get sick. He wasn't dying because they don't die. He just felt like he had lived too long and seen too much and was weary of everything. [20:25] DaemonFC[m] There's not even that much you can see in this world, right? Just a limited amount of things to do, especially as poor as The Owners keep everyone, intentionally. [20:26] *cubeman_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:27] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I've started mocking Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc. as "Our benefactors.". [20:27] schestowitz__ Star Trek ?! [20:27] schestowitz__ you are a rich nation [20:27] DaemonFC[m] It's like Half Life 2 where they take over Earth and enslave everyone they've allowed to live. [20:27] schestowitz__ many rich people [20:27] *cubeman_ (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [20:27] schestowitz__ robbing people who work two jobs to make ends meet [20:27] DaemonFC[m] Not really. [20:27] schestowitz__ not a "rich natiom" [20:27] schestowitz__ "rich PEOPLE's nationm" [20:27] DaemonFC[m] There's super rich numbering in the thousands maybe. [20:27] schestowitz__ they control everything [20:27] schestowitz__ inc. the two major parties [20:27] schestowitz__ and the media [20:27] DaemonFC[m] Which own like 80-90% of the wealth. [20:28] schestowitz__ American Dream.. for SOME anyway ;-) [20:28] DaemonFC[m] On a private island with unlimited COVID tests. [20:28] DaemonFC[m] Dosing themselves with as much of the vaccine as they could ever want. [20:28] schestowitz__ [20:27] There's super rich numbering in the thousands maybe. [20:28] schestowitz__ wow, thousands [20:28] schestowitz__ well done [20:28] schestowitz__ one neighbourhood [20:28] schestowitz__ running half a continent [20:28] schestowitz__ and abroad too [20:29] schestowitz__ like super-rich remnants from The British Empire [20:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.28 [20:30] DaemonFC[m] I think I saw something that said about 6,600 Americans own over 80% of the total wealth. [20:30] DaemonFC[m] In a nation of 340 million, iirc. [20:30] DaemonFC[m] The Census figures aren't released just yet. [20:31] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Meanwhile, the state beats Mandy up for his Walmart money. Like MARISOL. [20:31] vZS1_2 Particularly entertaining email from Linus before they castrated him: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/23/657 [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge? [20:31] techrights-bot Running #Windows apps on #GNU #Linux is set to get a major boost http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27849 [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines [20:31] DaemonFC[m] Every time he earns $100, Illinois takes $5 of it before he sees it and $8 of every $100 he spends. [20:32] MinceR that's cheap compared to what hungary does [20:32] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: That's not counting the federal government. [20:32] MinceR :> [20:32] DaemonFC[m] Most Americans lose about 40% of their income to the government, I think. [20:33] DaemonFC[m] In return, we get potholes and dilapidated buildings and no police while the riots are happening. [20:33] techrights-bot Torvalds: "Having looked at the #dbus performance, and come to the conclusion that the reason dbus performs abysmally badly is just pure shit user space code, I am not AT ALL impressed by the performance argument." https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/23/657 [20:33] DaemonFC[m] A state that disarms us so that when the reavers finally turn their attention on our homes and property we have to fend them off with a whiffle bat. [20:35] techrights-bot "It means that any mobster worldwide could do the same to identify a particularly obnoxious, but especially annoying officer investigating his activities." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/whats-the-difference-between-bad-students-and-cops/ [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | What's the difference between bad students and cops? | Stop at Zona-M [20:36] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: The Fed cut off Illinois from getting more loans. [20:37] DaemonFC[m] We have....a matter of months before the state is out of money and unpaid bills pile up again. [20:37] DaemonFC[m] It's more of a religion than a state. [20:37] DaemonFC[m] No matter how much money it gets, they need more. Can't tell you what happened to it. They just need more. [20:40] techrights-bot Improved Battery Reporting For Newer #Logitech Devices Coming To #Linux 5.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146615 #kernel [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improved Battery Reporting For Newer Logitech Devices Coming To Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines [20:41] techrights-bot "Well this is a doozey. Made public a while back was a security vulnerability in many Snap Packages and the Snapcraft tool used to create them. Specifically, this is the vulnerability identified as CVE-2020-27348" https://diddledan.com/2021/01/about-cve-2020-27348/ [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diddledan.com | About CVE-2020-27348 | [20:41] vZS1_2 For IPC we have pipes, UNIX domain sockets, files, etc. We don't need more Red Hat stuffed into GNU/Linux. [20:42] vZS1_2 It is deliberately making the codebase grow larger just so Red Hat (IBM) has control over more of the ecosystem. [20:43] vZS1_2 You can very easily implement your own pub/sub communication method on top of the available IPC primitives. That's essentially what dbus does [20:44] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146616 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:44] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: "ecosystem"? [20:44] schestowitz__ that's what they might call it [20:44] schestowitz__ RMS opposes the term [20:45] schestowitz__ because, iirc, according to him, in a biological ecosystem it's normal to prey on other animals [20:45] schestowitz__ hardly the soothing and vivid image humans like to have of an "ecosystem" [20:45] schestowitz__ where all families are vegetarian or something [20:45] schestowitz__ Red Hat is s shark [20:45] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ [20:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights [20:45] schestowitz__ friend of mine was attending one of the OLF Conferences, on Saturday November 7th, and he happened to find a seat listening to Bob Young of Red Hat. Young was telling a story about how a few years ago he had explained to Richard Stallman that he himself was more committed to Free Software than Stallman was. In his view, Stallman was only ideologically supporting Free Software, while Red Hats entire business model depended upon on [20:45] schestowitz__ it. And through Red Hats commercialization of GNU/Linux, Young had brought open-source/free software into wide-spread corporate acceptance and into the marketplace such that many more people could benefit."\" [20:48] vZS1_2 We should stop spreading the myth that GNU/Linux is successful just because of Red Hat [20:49] vZS1_2 That's a disservice to all the people that contributed over the decades [20:49] vZS1_2 Who have nothing to do with Red Hat [20:50] vZS1_2 What is a problem is Red Hat's control over what seems to be the vast majority of GNU/Linux systems. [20:51] vZS1_2 You will find either one or all of pam, dbus, and systemd on them. [20:52] vZS1_2 Instead of taking good ideas from the BSDs or something like Plan 9, GNU/Linux systems keep getting more and more Red Hat trash stuffed into them. [20:52] vZS1_2 It's terrible and needs to go in the other direction. [20:55] techrights-bot SPAMnil (Swapnil Bhartiya) now doing puff pieces for and with #microsoft employees. #muktware site became the opposite of what it used to be, promoting #ProprietarySoftware and #monopoly ... [20:59] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 18 [21:00] techrights-bot #grammarly is a #keylogger disguised as a feature to be seen as legal. #surveillance #espionage [21:00] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: #Blender 2.91, #Server Security, Linux in the Ham Shack and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146617 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Blender 2.91, Server Security, Linux in the Ham Shack and More | Tux Machines [21:01] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122442 [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5123508) [21:04] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [21:05] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146618 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:10] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [21:11] techrights-bot Devices: Xtra-PC, #Arduino and #InventorCodingKit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146619 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Xtra-PC, Arduino and Inventor Coding Kit | Tux Machines [21:15] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: You can see the term "software freedom" used quite liberally in the Guile project. [21:15] vZS1_2 Example, from "1.3 Guile and the GNU Project" of the Guile Reference manual: [21:15] vZS1_2 " [21:15] vZS1_2 The idea of extensibility is closely related to the GNU projects [21:15] vZS1_2 primary goal, that of promoting software freedom. [21:16] vZS1_2 " [21:16] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146620 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:18] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146621 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:22] techrights-bot Links 18/1/2021: #GNURadio 3.9, #Wikipedia at 20 http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/wikipedia-at-20/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/1/2021: GNU Radio 3.9, Wikipedia at 20 | Techrights [21:22] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: sorry, was distracted [21:22] schestowitz__ posting Daily Links [21:23] schestowitz__ waiting for a 180+mb video to finish uploading [21:23] vZS1_2 Np. Can just read the logs. [21:23] schestowitz__ No need for just the log, I scroll up [21:23] schestowitz__ I see the channels on different screen and get notifications for highlight [21:23] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/4eec5ee97ecef044.png [21:23] schestowitz__ but sometimes ignore things for a bit to avoid split attention [21:24] schestowitz__ MinceR: gets the point across [21:24] schestowitz__ it's against human nature [21:25] schestowitz__ even monkeys have alphamales and tribes [21:26] *cybrNaut has quit (Changing host) [21:26] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@unaffiliated/cybrnaut) has joined #techrights [21:27] schestowitz__ MinceR: and notice the smog [21:28] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146622 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [21:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.43 [21:29] schestowitz__ maybe just fog, looks like winter with not a leaf on any of the trees [21:29] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: BT tries to sell me the BS that the Home Hub is at fault [21:29] schestowitz__ when connection speeds vary so much [21:29] schestowitz__ now it's like 5 times faster than it was all day long [21:29] schestowitz__ must be a miracle [21:30] schestowitz__ maybe the hub just 'starts working' better... magically 5 hours after dark [21:30] vZS1_2 they're just limiting traffic during the day, looks like [21:30] schestowitz__ yup [21:30] schestowitz__ I keep telling them [21:30] schestowitz__ and they don't dent [21:30] schestowitz__ deny [21:30] schestowitz__ I'll keep pressing [21:30] schestowitz__ even if just to make a point [21:30] schestowitz__ my personal blog has like two dozen blog posts about BT [21:31] cybrNaut ethical comparison of US banks and brokerage firms => https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_banks.md https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_brokerages.md [21:31] schestowitz__ there are also few in techrights, but it's too personal for TR [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_banks.md ) [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_brokerages.md ) [21:31] schestowitz__ and I try not to pollute TR with personal issues [21:31] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I will do the nameserver thing soon [21:32] schestowitz__ in the meantime, maybe you want to experiment with image->text [21:32] schestowitz__ I finally found something close to what I was looking for [21:32] cybrNaut sorry bad links [21:32] schestowitz__ by sheer serendipity, a release announcement [21:32] schestowitz__ maybe behind vpn? [21:32] cybrNaut correct links => https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/us_banks.md https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/us_brokerages.md [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm: Information and tools to facilitate ethical consumption of goods and services. - us_banks.md at master - liberethos_paradigm - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm: Information and tools to facilitate ethical consumption of goods and services. - us_brokerages.md at master - liberethos_paradigm - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea [21:32] vZS1_2 Mucking around with Guile atm. [21:33] schestowitz__ I used it ages ago [21:33] schestowitz__ 18 years I think [21:33] vZS1_2 Used what? [21:33] schestowitz__ guile [21:33] vZS1_2 Ah [21:33] vZS1_2 I've got a few ideas for it with my Gentoo install. Just brushing up on the basics. [21:33] schestowitz__ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Guile [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GNU Guile - Wikipedia [21:33] schestowitz__ wow, 1993 [21:33] vZS1_2 It is old [21:34] schestowitz__ almost older than Linux [21:34] schestowitz__ it's a good thing that GNU came to help Linux [21:34] schestowitz__ some times in 2993 :-) [21:34] vZS1_2 It's very noob-friendly [21:34] schestowitz__ 1993 [21:34] vZS1_2 Way more noob-friendly than C [21:34] schestowitz__ rms let old uncle rms start the gnu project alongside linux ;-) [21:34] schestowitz__ I mean lt let... [21:35] schestowitz__ I will do some general purpose articles now [21:35] vZS1_2 I want my Gentoo system to be noob-friendly because I plan on sharing it with GNU/Linux noobs. [21:35] schestowitz__ because I cannot publish EPO, waiting for upload to finish [21:35] vZS1_2 Writing a lot of C code is a great way to scare aware people. [21:35] schestowitz__ gentoo has projects you can work with [21:35] schestowitz__ speak to sabayon, it renamed recently [21:36] vZS1_2 s/aware/away/ [21:36] schestowitz__ lyxer or whatever claudio (?) calls himself [21:36] schestowitz__ it's italian [21:36] *aindilis has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:36] schestowitz__ he makes binaries from gentoo [21:36] vZS1_2 No idea. If I find a relevant group, I'll drop in. [21:36] schestowitz__ even some blobs, afaik [21:36] schestowitz__ don't start it from scratch, you redo what others already do [21:36] schestowitz__ and they need more hands [21:36] schestowitz__ he got a decent server [21:37] schestowitz__ https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Sabayon [21:37] schestowitz__ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sabayon Linux - Wikipedia [21:37] schestowitz__ www.sabayonlinux.org [21:37] vZS1_2 I'm building this for me first so it's going to have to be from scratch. [21:37] schestowitz__ ah, fabio [21:37] schestowitz__ "Fabio Erculiani and Team" [21:38] schestowitz__ wikipedia does not yet mention the rename? [21:38] schestowitz__ or rebrand? [21:38] schestowitz__ odd [21:38] schestowitz__ brb [21:38] vZS1_2 You can't learn something unless you start from scratch [21:38] schestowitz__ you can [21:38] vZS1_2 I disagree [21:39] schestowitz__ by having next to you someone who did it before [21:39] vZS1_2 And not up for debate [21:39] schestowitz__ and using scripts made for it [21:39] schestowitz__ while improving them [21:39] schestowitz__ want from scratch, do LFS [21:39] schestowitz__ and even that might not be low level enough [21:39] schestowitz__ because most of the pieces are already in place [21:39] schestowitz__ like a puzzle [21:40] vZS1_2 Already have systems that are built from kernel. This is more an organised effort, that's why I'm using Gentoo. [21:40] vZS1_2 Those machines don't have any package management. They just have a few programs on them [21:40] vZS1_2 Anyway. Back to work [21:44] schestowitz__ cheers [21:45] schestowitz__ OK, just remember that the "from scratch" argument is endless (and I agree with you) pointless because you could debate some people of particular disciplines making your custom h/w designs and magnets or inodes [21:45] schestowitz__ the reproducible build team with its toolset does interesting and important work [21:46] vZS1_2 That's why you decide which layer of abstraction you start at. From scratch is wrt to that level of abstraction. [21:46] vZS1_2 You don't have the endless descent that way [21:46] vZS1_2 And I've already settled on a level of abstraction (the Gentoo base). I'm not going higher level of abstraction than that. [21:46] vZS1_2 A distro on top of Gentoo is none of my concern [21:46] techrights-bot Things arent rosy at #Intel because the hires arent suitable for the job of documenting and/or presenting #GNU / #Linux -centric products (whose target audience is #Freesoftware developers) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/webops-at-intel/ [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XIX: Intels Web Experts Seen as Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy | Techrights [21:46] vZS1_2 Which is what you recommended [21:47] vZS1_2 Just for clarity ^ [21:47] schestowitz__ http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ offline :/ [21:47] schestowitz__ maybe due to the name change, I don't know... [21:47] vZS1_2 Should have had some redirection in place, at least. [21:47] schestowitz__ just remember who founded gentoo [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 522 @ http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ ) [21:48] schestowitz__ and later funtoo [21:48] schestowitz__ he went to work for Microsoft [21:48] schestowitz__ I think this greatly harmed morale in the community [21:48] schestowitz__ they have not been the same since [21:48] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:48] vZS1_2 Doesn't bother me. [21:49] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611002566513#c6107080106351420184 [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [21:49] schestowitz__ "I was just wondering how the public can view those oral proceedings by video that are made open to the public. Does the EPO provide log-in details? " [21:49] schestowitz__ lol [21:49] schestowitz__ my next article will be about it [21:49] schestowitz__ but need to finish the upload first [21:49] vZS1_2 Gentoo doesn't force choices on people [21:49] vZS1_2 Debian does [21:50] vZS1_2 That's why Gentoo clearly states it's a "meta distribution" [21:50] vZS1_2 It's more a framework for building your own GNU/Linux than something controlled by an upstream team. [21:52] vZS1_2 And it's source-code based not binary package based [21:58] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:59] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/01b181a0ae73fbc0.jpg ● Jan 18 [22:00] vZS1_2 Tbh, if I didn't require some driver support, I'd have used an OS like Plan9. [22:01] MinceR you could still run it in a VM [22:02] vZS1_2 Run what in a VM? [22:04] MinceR Plan9 [22:04] vZS1_2 Ah. I might actually look into that at some point. [22:04] vZS1_2 I've read a lot of the Plan9 documentation and it looks very attractive. [22:04] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [22:05] vZS1_2 It actually adheres to "everything is a file" [22:06] schestowitz__ cubeman_ uses or used it [22:07] techrights-bot "Im keen to get back into the habit of posting Linux release roundups. The last one I wrote was way back in 2019 so its been a while!" https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/linux-release-roundup-kdenlive-20-12-1-bleachbit-4-2-0-libreoffice-7-1-rc [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linux Release Roundup: Kdenlive 20.12.1, BleachBit 4.2.0 & LibreOffice 7.1 RC - OMG! Ubuntu! [22:20] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/449/ [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [22:21] MinceR https://files.catbox.moe/zazfi5.png [22:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.25 [22:41] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/kSTXHwx.png [22:45] techrights-bot Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation ( @FSF ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/fsf-transparency-2021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights [22:50] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 18 [23:14] techrights-bot Sites in Bed With the #EPO and #UPC Covering the 'News Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/sites-in-bed-with-litigants/ #Techrights #EPC #unitarypatent [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sites in Bed With the EPO and UPC Covering the News Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses | Techrights [23:16] vZS1_2 I've found that a lot of the propaganda posts get shafted if they enable comments [23:16] vZS1_2 I saw it in a lot of Financial Times pieces on Assange. Pretty much all the comments were in support of Assange and called out the BS in the piece. [23:17] schestowitz__ yup [23:17] schestowitz__ wait for them to nuke comments [23:17] schestowitz__ or decided they don't like the comments, so "not worth it anymore" [23:18] schestowitz__ they just need to write more "Assange tortures cats" pieces [23:18] schestowitz__ and don't forget "Assange spreads poo" billshit [23:18] schestowitz__ *bullshit [23:18] vZS1_2 And the alternative of censoring comments by deleting all the dissenters [23:19] schestowitz__ they have their own blogs [23:19] schestowitz__ and social control media [23:19] schestowitz__ so that might not work [23:19] schestowitz__ just backfire in some sense [23:19] schestowitz__ encouraging the perception that papers preach, refuse to listen [23:20] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/489/ [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [23:20] vZS1_2 SCM is suffering a mass exodus right now. [23:20] vZS1_2 They're actually losing users. WhatsApp lost a lot recently. [23:21] techrights-bot #vmware is a malicious company. So a malicious person will join #intel https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwebster/2021/01/18/gelsinger-waves-farewell--can-vmware-navigate-the-course-ahead/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/VMware [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Gelsinger Waves Farewell Can VMware Navigate The Course Ahead? [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights [23:22] schestowitz__ I think I will release the mother lode of Intel now [23:23] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.93 [23:35] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [23:42] *inky (~inky@141.136.78.143) has joined #techrights [23:42] DaemonFC[m] Hubbub is that Trump has decided not to try to pardon himself (which would only apply to the list of federal crimes anyway, which aren't even the half of it). Self-pardon is dangerous. Nixon asked for legal advice and got some that said it was off the table due to the fact that nobody can sit in judgment of themselves, and taking a pardon does not absolve you of guilt. It implies guilt. So it could hang him in other [23:42] DaemonFC[m] courtrooms later even if it worked. [23:48] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [23:49] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-173-174.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [23:51] CrystalMath well that's true, but there are lunatics in america that believe russia has the power to affect their elections [23:51] CrystalMath it dates back hundreds of years [23:52] schestowitz__ In Soviet Russia, America affects Russian elections! [23:54] techrights-bot #MobiusFront '83 from Zachtronics now has online and AI multiplayer | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/mobius-front-83-from-zachtronics-now-has-online-and-ai-multiplayer #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mbius Front '83 from Zachtronics now has online and AI multiplayer | GamingOnLinux [23:54] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:55] DaemonFC[m] After the Janus decision from the Supreme Court, apparently the public unions lost 98% of their "fair share" paying non-members, and 6% of their full members as well. [23:55] techrights-bot To reduce or alleviate suspicions and a potential of mistrust the #FSF needs to become more transparent and liberate information (such as the real reason Bradley Kuhn left, as noted in the previous part) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/fsf-transparency-2021/ [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights [23:55] DaemonFC[m] The agency fee payer loss was a bit over 170,000 across the country, but the unions demanded state laws requiring employees to be represented by the union whether they wanted it or not. [23:56] DaemonFC[m] And many don't, because the unions are corrupt and run off with your money. [23:56] techrights-bot It is rather sad that blogs like #IPKat have turned into proponents of abusive #EPO management and #TeamUPC increasingly resorts to lying using pseudonyms (to avert criticism and accountability) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/sites-in-bed-with-litigants/ [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sites in Bed With the EPO and UPC Covering the News Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses | Techrights [23:56] DaemonFC[m] Walmart managed to keep them out. The one that was most likely to organize a Walmart already has closed shop grocery stores in Illinois. [23:56] DaemonFC[m] The workers there don't get anything that the ones at Walmart don't have, except union dues being deducted from their checks. [23:57] DaemonFC[m] That's not even legal in Indiana, unless you want to be a member of the union. [23:57] DaemonFC[m] The SEIU and the UFCW are a couple of bad jokes, honestly. [23:58] DaemonFC[m] You're organizing people who aren't qualified to work anywhere else in a dead economy with a lot of unemployed people. You organize them all, you still have no pull. [23:58] DaemonFC[m] The company can train scabs in a matter of weeks and be open again and the people who brought in the union don't have jobs anymore. [23:59] DaemonFC[m] What you need to do is defeat globalism, and we're not getting that from either major party. Sorry, Charlie.