●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 18, 2023 ●● ● Feb 18 [00:06] morena as bonus you can imagine in some terminal links are not clickable [00:07] morena and even, one has not lifetime for reading every second another article [00:07] TR News AMD Grabs Over 30% CPU Market Share As Intel Continues To Decline https://wccftech.com/amd-grabs-over-30-percent-market-share-with-epyc-cpus-intel-continues-to-decline/ Source: WCCF Tech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//wccftech.com/amd-grabs-over-30-percent-market-share-with-epyc-cpus-intel-continues-to-decline/ [00:07] TR Bot AMD Grabs Over 30% CPU Market Share As Intel Continues To Decline [00:08] TR News Apple doesn't want you developing hobby apps - Bennett Notes https://www.bennettnotes.com/notes/why-does-apple-restrict-hobby-development/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bennettnotes.com/notes/why-does-apple-restrict-hobby-development/ [00:08] TR Bot Apple doesn't want you developing hobby apps Bennett Notes [00:09] TR News ChatGPT is a data privacy nightmare. If youve ever posted online, you ought to be concerned https://theconversation.com/chatgpt-is-a-data-privacy-nightmare-if-youve-ever-posted-online-you-ought-to-be-concerned-199283 Source: The Conversation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theconversation.com/chatgpt-is-a-data-privacy-nightmare-if-youve-ever-posted-online-you-ought-to-be-concerned- [00:09] TR Bot ChatGPT is a data privacy nightmare. If youve ever posted online, you ought to be concerned [00:10] TR News ChatGPT Is Ingesting Corporate Secrets - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/chatgpt-is-ingesting-corporate-secrets.html Source: Bruce Schneier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/chatgpt-is-ingesting-corporate-secrets.html [00:10] TR Bot Is Ingesting Corporate Secrets - Schneier on Security [00:11] immibis Apple is a cult. If you bought it you deserved what you got. [00:12] TR News Why I'm not the biggest fan of Single Page Applications - Manuel Matuzovi https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/single-page-applications-criticism/ Source: Manuel Matuzovic | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.matuzo.at/blog/2023/single-page-applications-criticism/ [00:12] TR Bot Why I'm not the biggest fan of Single Page Applications - Manuel Matuzovi [00:13] TR News Modularizing React Applications with Established UI Patterns https://martinfowler.com/articles/modularizing-react-apps.html [00:13] TR Bot Modularizing React Applications with Established UI Patterns [00:14] TR News The Heisenbug lurking in your async code - Textual https://textual.textualize.io/blog/2023/02/11/the-heisenbug-lurking-in-your-async-code/ [00:14] TR Bot The Heisenbug lurking in your async code - Textual [00:15] TR News How C++23 changes the way we write code - Timur Doumler - Meeting C++ 2022 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QyFVoYcaORg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QyFVoYcaORg [00:15] TR Bot How C++23 changes the way we write code - Timur Doumler - Meeting C++ 2022 - Invidious [00:15] TR News The Real C++ Killers (Not You, Rust) | HackerNoon https://hackernoon.com/the-real-c-killers-not-you-rust Source: Hacker Noon | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hackernoon.com/the-real-c-killers-not-you-rust [00:15] TR Bot Real C++ Killers (Not You, Rust) | HackerNoon [00:16] TR News Simple Physics-based Flight Simulation with C++ | Jakob Maier https://www.jakobmaier.at/posts/flight-simulation/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.jakobmaier.at/posts/flight-simulation/ [00:16] TR Bot Simple Physics-based Flight Simulation with C++ | Jakob Maier [00:17] TR News Re: Factor: Proquint https://re-factor.blogspot.com/2023/02/proquint.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//re-factor.blogspot.com/2023/02/proquint.html [00:17] TR Bot Re: Factor: Proquint [00:18] TR News Fixing Too much WIP. too much WIP means too many things | by Jason Yip | Jan, 2023 | Medium https://jchyip.medium.com/fixing-too-much-wip-ba4d254048a3 Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jchyip.medium.com/fixing-too-much-wip-ba4d254048a3 [00:18] TR Bot Fixing Too much WIP. too much WIP means too many things | by Jason Yip | Jan, 2023 | Medium [00:19] TR News Retrospectives Antipatterns https://martinfowler.com/articles/retrospective-antipatterns.html [00:19] TR Bot Retrospectives Antipatterns [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:20] TR News (NEW): FOSS communities: You dont need to yell http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/FOSS_communities_You_don_t_need_to_yell.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/FOSS_communities_You_don_t_need_to_yell.gmi [00:20] TR Bot Tux Machines FOSS communities: You dont need to yell [00:24] immibis schestowitz[TR]: is this server hosted in Germany? [00:24] schestowitz[TR] no [00:24] schestowitz[TR] i know where you are going with this.. [00:24] schestowitz[TR] (techpol) [00:25] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D507.jpg [00:25] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D839.jpg [00:27] TR News Brendan Gregg: USENIX SREcon APAC 2023: CFP http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2023-02-17/srecon-apac-2023.html [00:27] TR Bot USENIX SREcon APAC 2023: CFP [00:27] immibis Oh just wondering. It has no impact on whether I'm required to file a criminal complainr. [00:27] schestowitz[TR] the state of germany is already aware [00:28] TR News Salih Emin: ucaresystem core 4.4.0 : Now published for Ubuntu Kinetik and Lunar https://utappiablog.wordpress.com/2023/02/17/ucaresystem-core-4-4-0-now-published-for-ubuntu-kinetik-and-lunar/ [00:28] TR Bot ucaresystem core 4.4.0 : Now published for Ubuntu Kinetik and Lunar Utappia [00:29] DaemonFC ChatGPT is dismissive of the DEA deal with the Sinaloa Cartel. [00:29] DaemonFC Even though the deal is well documented and written about at length in Wikipedia. [00:29] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: i noticed something [00:29] schestowitz[TR] some of the media,m [00:29] schestowitz[TR] no longer bribed, [00:29] schestowitz[TR] is now berating the chatbot [00:29] schestowitz[TR] real articles [00:29] schestowitz[TR] critical too [00:29] schestowitz[TR] not only puff pieces [00:30] schestowitz[TR] we're still expanding our scope of view for articles [00:31] TR News Universities controlled by oligarchies. Do we WANT that??? https://record.umich.edu/articles/school-of-education-named-to-honor-marsal-familys-gift/ [00:31] TR Bot School of Education named to honor Marsal familys gift | The University Record [00:32] DaemonFC Yeah, so now that the paid shit is out of the way, the stories come out. [00:32] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23010565 [00:32] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23010565 [00:32] *psydruid thinks the Wintel PC industry will completely disappear at some point, so bye bye Lenovo and others [00:32] psydruid including gulagtraitors [00:32] TR News CNN hypocrisy https://www.cnn.com/collections/fox-news-intl-021723/ [00:32] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.cnn.com/collections/fox-news-intl-021723/ ) [00:33] TR News 'Propaganda network': See reporter's reaction to damning Fox News texts https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/02/17/fox-news-talent-executives-court-documents-darcy-vpx-cnntm.cnn [00:33] TR Bot News stars privately trashed election fraud claims, according to court documents | CNN Business [00:33] TR News CNN attack helicopter https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/02/17/ukraine-helicopter-fighting-front-line-aviator-kiley-pkg-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn [00:33] TR Bot you're frightened you should stay home': CNN flies with Ukrainian attack helicopter | CNN [00:34] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:34] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:34] DaemonFC ChatGPT denies that there are deals between the Sinaloa Cartel and the DEA even though the Wikipedia article about the Cartel lists the DEA's deals, with citations, and it's both former Cartel members and former agents that exposed the deals. [00:34] DaemonFC When you confront GPT with it, it says this isn't evidence and years have gone by without further accusations. [00:34] DaemonFC So I guess we're good then. ChatGPT, which has been programmed to lie + defend Big Government, the cops, and mega-corporations says it's a lie. [00:36] TR News nytimes propaganda with LOADED headline: "Why a Strong Economy Is Making Stock Investors Jittery". "Strong Economy"???!?! Seriously?????? [00:37] TR News What Fox News Says When Youre Not Listening https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/opinion/fox-news-dominion.html [00:37] TR Bot Opinion | What Fox News Says When Youre Not Listening - The New York Times [00:37] DaemonFC yan Alcaraz [00:37] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:37] DaemonFC The DEA is much more concerned with siphoning off drug money than it is about dismantling cartels and shutting down sex trafficking rings that use children as young as 9 or 10 and pimp them out. [00:37] DaemonFC The government has abandoned major American cities to drugs and sex traffickers in exchange for focusing on grabbing as much of the cash flowing back down as possible. They don't want all of the cash because then the activity generating the cash for the government would cease. So they turn a blind eye. [00:38] TR News No, a chatbot is not search at all. Stop relaying this misinformation. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/podcasts/the-daily/the-online-search-wars-got-scary-fast.html [00:38] TR Bot The Online Search Wars Got Scary. Fast. - The New York Times [00:41] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:41] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:41] DaemonFC So what's happening is that the US and state governments are fine with all of the Cartel activity. [00:41] DaemonFC The murders, the drugs, the social rot, the underage sex trafficking rings, as long as it can seize say, half the cash going back down. [00:41] DaemonFC So police really function less like law enforcement and more like criminals that are extorting the criminals with a ~50% tax on the profits of drug overdoses, people who are forced to endure being raped over and over again as minors, just total carnage. [00:42] TR News Fox stars privately bashed election fraud claims the network pushed https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/fox-news-dominion-election-fraud [00:42] TR Bot Fox stars privately bashed election fraud claims the network pushed [00:42] TR News How big companies like Tesla and Starbucks are fending off unionization https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/how-big-companies-tesla-and-starbucks-fend-off-unionization [00:42] TR Bot How big companies like Tesla and Starbucks are fending off unionization [00:43] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:43] DaemonFC @DaemonFC@mstdn.social [00:43] DaemonFC The law enforcement never wins the "War on Drugs" because the cash grab would end. The need for a giant government power grab would end. [00:43] DaemonFC Instead of putting the Cartel people in prison, the American police spend very nearly all of their enforcement efforts against some Black and Brown people they pull over for a "burned out tail light" that turn out to have a dime bag. They save their viciousness for the victims. They take it all out on people who should be in hospitals getting better. [00:43] TR News Lies about unemployment https://www.axios.com/2023/02/17/rock-bottom-jobless-claims-might-be-overstated [00:43] TR Bot JPMorgan examines how severance packages impact jobless claims data [00:45] TR News "evident that Microsoft is more interested in maintaining their profit margins than conserving resources" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/02/16/windows-and-xboxs-greenwashing-tactics-fail-to-address-real-energy-and-security-issues-why-gnu-linux-and-nintendo-offer-better-alternatives/ [00:45] TR Bot Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives | BaronHK's Rants [00:45] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:45] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:45] DaemonFC Hollywood putting out cop-a-ganda like End of Watch is to make people think that the police are out there risking their lives taking on violent criminals and shutting them down, even though that's not what they do. [00:45] DaemonFC In real life, those two cops wouldn't be going after the Sinaloa Cartel, they'd be ignoring them entirely, growing fat sitting on the side of the road chasing down speeders for tickets. [00:45] DaemonFC They plan to grow fat on a pension. They're not action heroes. [00:47] TR News The langpack PETs are gone https://bkhome.org/news/202302/the-langpack-pets-are-gone.html [00:47] TR Bot The langpack PETs are gone [00:51] TR News Feds are sending medical experts to Ohio toxic train wreck site as residents safety concerns simmer https://kentwired.com/92328/world-nation/feds-are-sending-medical-experts-to-ohio-toxic-train-wreck-site-as-residents-safety-concerns-simmer/ [00:51] TR Bot Feds are sending medical experts to Ohio toxic train wreck site as residents safety concerns simmer Kent Wired [00:51] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: gov. cares abour your health [00:51] schestowitz[TR] it also cares about perception [00:51] schestowitz[TR] and corporate profits [00:51] schestowitz[TR] those are not compatible with health [00:51] immibis Governments do not care about health. [00:51] schestowitz[TR] never [00:51] schestowitz[TR] or job figures [00:53] TR News New Protections for Food Benefits Stolen by Skimmers https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/02/new-protections-for-food-benefits-stolen-by-skimmers/ [00:53] TR Bot New Protections for Food Benefits Stolen by Skimmers Krebs on Security [00:53] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:53] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:53] DaemonFC Fox News Channel got the rights to COPS and continues to produce because conservatives are a bunch of stinking assholes who get their sick kicks watching racist police officers stick guns in people's faces. [00:53] DaemonFC Sadly, this show continues to be produced because they consider it a way to "own the libs". [00:53] DaemonFC The cops cause social problems that far exceed what they clean up. A life can be ruined over a misdemeanor and society will pay greatly because the police fucked around and caused a snowball effect. [00:54] TR News How to setup Linux Apache Mysql Python server https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-linux-apache-mysql-python-server [00:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-linux-apache-mysql-python-server ) [00:55] TR News How to install tar.gz file on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-tar-gz-file-on-linux [00:55] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-tar-gz-file-on-linux ) [00:57] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [00:57] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [00:57] DaemonFC The ways society pays for the cops overreacting to misdemeanors takes many forms, from reduced earnings for the defendant leading to lower tax revenue + use of welfare programs, to causing the person to give up and commit larger crimes, either because they've lost control of their life anyway or need money, all the way up to suicide, which also has a social cost in Dollar and other terms. [00:57] DaemonFC The media never reports how many people walked in front of Metra due to what a court just did to them. [00:59] TR News Troubleshooting the Disk Full Error on Linux Systems https://linuxconfig.org/troubleshooting-the-disk-full-error-on-linux-systems [00:59] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/troubleshooting-the-disk-full-error-on-linux-systems ) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] TR News Solving the Segmentation Fault Error on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/solving-the-segmentation-fault-error-on-linux [00:59] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/solving-the-segmentation-fault-error-on-linux ) ● Feb 18 [01:00] TR News Fixing the Cannot Open Display Error on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/fixing-the-cannot-open-display-error-on-linux [01:00] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/fixing-the-cannot-open-display-error-on-linux ) [01:03] TR News Install Portainer Docker UI Web Interface on Ubuntu 22.04 https://linuxhint.com/install_portainer_docker_ui_ubuntu/ [01:03] TR Bot Install Portainer Docker UI Web Interface on Ubuntu 22.04 [01:04] TR News Setup Docker Private Registry on Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/setup_docker_private_registry_ubuntu/ [01:04] TR Bot Setup Docker Private Registry on Ubuntu [01:05] TR News Install and Use Rancher on Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/install_rancher_ubuntu_docker_containers/ [01:05] TR Bot Install and Use Rancher on Ubuntu [01:05] TR News How to Boost FPS in Linux? https://linuxhint.com/boost-fps-linux/ [01:05] TR Bot How to Boost FPS in Linux? [01:06] TR News Setting up Kali Linux on AWS EC2 https://linuxhint.com/kali_linux_aws_ec2/ [01:06] TR Bot Setting up Kali Linux on AWS EC2 [01:06] TR News How to Install Docker on Debian 11 (Bullseye): The Easy Way https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-docker-on-debian-11-bullseye/ [01:06] TR Bot How to Install Docker on Debian 11 (Bullseye): The Easy Way [01:08] TR News List of Git GUI applications for Linux https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-git-gui-applications-for-linux [01:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-git-gui-applications-for-linux ) [01:08] TR News Linux GUI text editors https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-text-editors [01:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-text-editors ) [01:08] TR News Linux GUI network managers https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-network-managers [01:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-gui-network-managers ) [01:09] TR News Brittany Day feeding microsoft propaganda sites again https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/readline-crime-exploiting-a-suid-logic-bug [01:09] TR Bot Crime: Exploiting a SUID Logic Bug | LinuxSecurity.com [01:10] TR News Linux Performance Optimization: Tools and Techniques https://linuxconfig.org/linux-performance-optimization-tools-and-techniques [01:10] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-performance-optimization-tools-and-techniques ) [01:10] TR News Graphical user interface (GUI) applications for managing MySQL https://linuxconfig.org/graphical-user-interface-gui-applications-for-managing-mysql [01:10] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/graphical-user-interface-gui-applications-for-managing-mysql ) [01:10] morena anyway [01:10] morena I would like to know that one thing I asked already [01:11] morena maybe somebody can answer [01:11] morena the reason why techrights.org does use cert [01:11] TR News Funny BSD Pictures https://lunduke.substack.com/p/funny-bsd-pictures [01:11] TR Bot Funny BSD Pictures - by Bryan Lunduke [01:12] schestowitz[TR] don't use https for techrights [01:12] schestowitz[TR] uses http [01:12] schestowitz[TR] *use [01:12] morena yes, any reason behind that? [01:12] schestowitz[TR] if you insist on https, don't believe your browser lying [01:12] morena no, I don't [01:12] morena I want to know just a reason for that [01:13] morena bc. it's pretty rare today [01:13] morena almost like a rebelion ;/ [01:13] TR News navigating futures https://mahb.stanford.edu/artscommunity/navigating-futures/ [01:13] TR Bot navigating futures - MAHB [01:14] TR News 14 Open Source Free First-Person Shooter FPS Games for Linux, Windows, and macOS https://medevel.com/open-source-free-fps-games/ [01:14] TR Bot 14 Open Source Free First-Person Shooter FPS Games for Linux, Windows, and macOS [01:14] morena oh shit [01:15] TR News Croc: Easily Share Files Between Computers https://medevel.com/croc-share-files/ [01:15] TR Bot Croc: Easily Share Files Between Computers [01:15] schestowitz[TR] you can read about it [01:15] schestowitz[TR] we covered the subject a lot around 2021 [01:18] morena where? pretty hard to navigate that site [01:18] schestowitz[TR] most sites are like thaat [01:18] schestowitz[TR] if they become large enough [01:18] morena yes [01:18] schestowitz[TR] search the site for "let's encrypt" [01:18] schestowitz[TR] for starting point [01:18] morena okay, thanks [01:19] morena now just to find search shit there ;/ [01:19] schestowitz[TR] LE is controlled by http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation [01:19] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [01:19] TR News Peso at strongest level against the dollar since 2018 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/peso-at-strongest-level-against-the-dollar-since-2018/ [01:19] TR Bot Peso at strongest level against the dollar since 2018 [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] morena oaky site search found nothing, there is google search lol [01:20] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/index.php?s=let+encrypt [01:21] TR Bot Let Encrypt | Techrights [01:21] morena ye probably let's broke it with ' [01:22] morena but more things are broken there, but that's okay ;/ [01:22] DaemonFC Let's Encrypt is a ruse to make it seem like nobody has any reason to use HTTP anymore and that will let browser vendors eventually refuse to connect to HTTP sites. [01:22] morena most website are [01:22] morena ye [01:22] DaemonFC Then they can decide who they give certificates to and get the "undesirables" off the Web entirely. [01:22] morena interesting how almost everyone copy [01:22] morena and just fall for that cert scam [01:23] DaemonFC It'll be easier to control who can be on the Web that way because if the certificate doesn't come with a major Web browser, it's useless. [01:24] TR News How to tackle multiple tasks at once on Ubuntu 22.04 https://net2.com/how-to-tackle-multiple-tasks-at-once-on-ubuntu-22-04/ [01:24] TR Bot How to tackle multiple tasks at once on Ubuntu 22.04 [01:25] schestowitz[TR] morena: you can use gemini:// [01:25] schestowitz[TR] self-signed is OK in gemini [01:26] schestowitz[TR] the www is waning anyway [01:27] schestowitz[TR] see the stats in netcraft [01:27] schestowitz[TR] more sites perish than get created [01:27] schestowitz[TR] and the traffic is moving down [01:27] schestowitz[TR] a lot is just peopple feasting on drm [01:27] schestowitz[TR] companies that operate at a loss [01:27] schestowitz[TR] to send people propaganda [01:27] schestowitz[TR] binging on things like youtube for hours [01:27] schestowitz[TR] ads and junk [01:27] schestowitz[TR] *binge-ing [01:28] schestowitz[TR] or controlled (by Muks, Saudis) 'activism' in twitter [01:28] schestowitz[TR] Musk and others changed the type of control [01:28] schestowitz[TR] but it's still fake, fake, fake [01:28] schestowitz[TR] steering public rage [01:28] schestowitz[TR] based on some nefarious, private agenda [01:30] TR News One Rupert Murdoch outlet trying to distract from the real scandal in the other outlet (Fox) https://pagesix.com/2023/02/17/megan-fox-found-texts-and-dms-in-machine-gun-kellys-phone/ [01:30] TR Bot Megan Fox found suspicious texts, DMs on MGKs phone before feud [01:30] DaemonFC https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/browsers [01:30] TR Bot How to choose a browser for everyday use? [01:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [01:31] TR News Russia to introduce digital identity cards https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/17/russia-to-introduce-digital-identity-cards/ [01:31] TR Bot Russia to introduce digital identity cards OffGuardian [01:31] DaemonFC https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/mozilla [01:31] TR Bot Mozilla - Devil Incarnate [01:31] DaemonFC https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/firefox [01:31] TR Bot Firefox Spyware Watchdog [01:31] psydruid the www brought to you by Vint Cerf, Tim Berners-Lee and Al Gore [01:31] DaemonFC https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/mozilla [01:31] psydruid and taken away from you by greedy corporations [01:32] schestowitz[TR] can't wait for the www to die off [01:32] schestowitz[TR] faster [01:32] schestowitz[TR] it's already waning [01:32] schestowitz[TR] we don't get web pages [01:32] psydruid infested by gulagmoles [01:32] schestowitz[TR] we get many scripts instead [01:32] schestowitz[TR] the browser became sandbox or vm for js [01:32] psydruid I only use the web when I have to [01:32] schestowitz[TR] then webasdsembly [01:32] schestowitz[TR] and other junk [01:32] schestowitz[TR] *webassembly [01:33] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: same here [01:33] schestowitz[TR] i scrape off onto kate [01:33] schestowitz[TR] and read the news in kate [01:33] schestowitz[TR] thanks to rss [01:35] TR News (NEW): LinuxConfig on GNU/Linux Development Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/LinuxConfig_on_GNU_Linux_Development_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/LinuxConfig_on_GNU_Linux_Development_Tools.gmi [01:35] TR Bot Tux Machines LinuxConfig on GNU/Linux Development Tools [01:36] schestowitz[TR] we'll add some code to git soon [01:36] schestowitz[TR] it's work in progress [01:38] psydruid I don't even see what's special about YouTube [01:38] DaemonFC I frequently use Brave in Tor Mode even though it's not perfect because Tor Browser is trash. [01:39] psydruid they are only special because a big networking backbone [01:39] DaemonFC Underneath it is a VPN set to use a European server in a GDPR country. [01:39] DaemonFC I mean, basically you want to give an attacker as many things to untangle as you can. [01:39] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: in the beginning.. [01:39] schestowitz[TR] there was GoogleVideo [01:39] psydruid But with gigabit fibre in homes you can run your own media server [01:39] schestowitz[TR] and another company, YouTube [01:39] schestowitz[TR] no ads [01:40] DaemonFC I wouldn't rely on just the Tor Network or just a VPN or just HTTPS-Only. [01:40] schestowitz[TR] barely JS and blloat [01:40] schestowitz[TR] they used flash [01:40] DaemonFC But using all three is better. [01:40] psydruid I know about both of them [01:40] morena ye web becomes annoying [01:40] DaemonFC Because it gives you some privacy even if someone compromises the others. [01:40] morena somehow found I hate to leave nice terminal - lovely plain text and open firefox [01:41] DaemonFC The more resources an attacker has to spend to compromise your privacy the less they'll probably even bother to do it. [01:41] schestowitz[TR] i mostly use terminal and text editor [01:41] morena also find something becomes nightmare, searchengine are now just propaganda, many results vanished [01:41] DaemonFC Unless you're just some major criminal or pain in the ass, probably nobody bothers. [01:41] DaemonFC So it's "threat modeling". [01:41] psydruid the same is true for search engines [01:41] schestowitz[TR] yes, even gulag.com got a lot worse [01:41] schestowitz[TR] it's designed to sell ideas and products [01:41] schestowitz[TR] not to inform people [01:41] morena ye [01:41] schestowitz[TR] so i mostly avoid it [01:42] schestowitz[TR] wikipedia got astroturfed a lot [01:42] morena I remember it was relatively okay in the past [01:42] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I use the Ononoki.org searx. [01:42] DaemonFC It's fast, it's more reliable than the others. [01:42] schestowitz[TR] in many domains the articles became worse than useless [01:42] psydruid distributed search engines should be a thing [01:42] schestowitz[TR] they became poliitical and corporate propaganda [01:42] morena but now every month/year is worse and worse, always get just the same shitty popular sites as results [01:42] schestowitz[TR] institutional brainwash [01:42] DaemonFC I fiddled with it. It's a mix of DuckDuckGo, Brave, and Google. [01:42] morena ye [01:42] DaemonFC Sometimes one doesn't respond, but you get results from the others. [01:42] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: yesterday I saw duckduckgo ad at a a bus stop! [01:43] schestowitz[TR] never saw physical ads for them before [01:43] schestowitz[TR] not here anyway [01:43] DaemonFC My goal is mainly so that there are different Censorship models. [01:43] schestowitz[TR] sponsored by microsoft [01:43] schestowitz[TR] bing masked [01:43] morena then find something just ai generated crap ;/ millions words about search term, no answer or any usefull info [01:43] DaemonFC They're not all in lockstep with each other and most Censors mainly focus on Google. [01:43] schestowitz[TR] don't use search engines much [01:43] schestowitz[TR] they are overused [01:43] DaemonFC Because you take care of your Google problem, there went 94% of the Web users. [01:43] psydruid and gulag should just go away and die together with microsoft and the rest of the mafia [01:43] DaemonFC They won't see that thing you just hid. [01:43] schestowitz[TR] i grew up on webcrawler and altavista [01:43] schestowitz[TR] those failed [01:43] schestowitz[TR] thewn there were web directories like dmoz [01:44] schestowitz[TR] then stumbleupon [01:44] DaemonFC I used to be a heavy user of Yahoo. [01:44] schestowitz[TR] before social control media tookk off [01:44] schestowitz[TR] or bored.com [01:44] DaemonFC GeoCities, Mail, Search, YIM. [01:44] schestowitz[TR] then you could gets tortiies and ANSWERS in folrums [01:44] schestowitz[TR] inc. usenet [01:44] schestowitz[TR] no need for search engines [01:44] DaemonFC By 2008 or so, Yahoo was basically thoroughly finished. [01:44] schestowitz[TR] human knowlege, not "hey hi" [01:44] DaemonFC They still had some money. [01:44] schestowitz[TR] *dge [01:44] DaemonFC By the time they paid Mozilla for default status I was like WHAT THE FUCK? [01:44] psydruid altavista.digital.com [01:44] DaemonFC Yahoo!? [01:44] DaemonFC Who even uses this? [01:45] schestowitz[TR] micreosoft [01:45] *h4unt3d has quit (Quit: connection closed.) [01:45] schestowitz[TR] it was microsoft spying on you [01:45] schestowitz[TR] via firefox [01:45] schestowitz[TR] in us and uk [01:45] schestowitz[TR] yahoo became just a front end for microsoft [01:45] psydruid of course altavista was just a demo for them to see how their systems would hold under load [01:45] psydruid in a time when x86 hardware was crap [01:45] schestowitz[TR] the www was never very very useful [01:46] schestowitz[TR] but in the 90s it was not a propaganda model [01:46] schestowitz[TR] now it's worse than just propaganda [01:46] DaemonFC Brave is like, the best Chromium browser. [01:46] schestowitz[TR] it's also censorship and surveillance [01:46] schestowitz[TR] it's like "big brother" [01:46] DaemonFC You still have to neuter a lot of bad stuff by hand. [01:46] schestowitz[TR] try falkon [01:46] schestowitz[TR] it's not bad either [01:46] DaemonFC But it's like lemonade when you only have lemons. [01:46] psydruid how long until they eee gemini wholesale? [01:46] morena ye, but one can still make nice web [01:46] schestowitz[TR] and you don't need to trust eich's ilk [01:46] morena simple, not broken like your ;/ [01:47] schestowitz[TR] gemini [01:47] morena and webring to connect with good resources [01:47] psydruid they'll never be content with letting the web just die [01:47] DaemonFC I guess if Falkon is in Flatpak and I don't have to spew KDEshit all over my GNOME. [01:47] schestowitz[TR] my personal site is still in a webring [01:47] psydruid microsoft tried a few years ago, they may try again [01:47] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: if you don't use kate, you are missing out [01:47] schestowitz[TR] and maybe konsole too [01:48] psydruid and there are still no gemini browsers in distributions [01:48] schestowitz[TR] they don't take all of kde [01:48] schestowitz[TR] not in recent distros [01:48] DaemonFC Firefox is turning into like, Windows 11. [01:48] morena no gemini browser in distro? hah [01:48] psydruid which is weird [01:48] schestowitz[TR] psydruid: in debian and ubuntu there is an emacs mod [01:48] schestowitz[TR] it's not great [01:48] morena that has to be really amazing distro [01:48] schestowitz[TR] i have it installed [01:48] DaemonFC It's like half as fast as Chromium, not fully compatible with the sites I need, uses way too much RAM and CPU to do what it does. [01:48] DaemonFC And it's a privacy mess ran by a user-hostile organization that fired most of the people who were actually improving it. [01:49] DaemonFC If you MUST use a Gecko browser, LibreWolf ships a better default configuration to start from. [01:49] psydruid schestowitz[TR]: what about shipping Lagrange and Kristall? [01:49] schestowitz[TR] not yet [01:49] psydruid that shouldn't be too hard [01:49] schestowitz[TR] but lagrange is in flathub [01:49] schestowitz[TR] and some french-vietnamese-canadian guy packaged it for fedora [01:49] psydruid it's been 3 years now [01:50] schestowitz[TR] iirc, voidlinux and openbsd still have gemini clients in their repos [01:50] psydruid it may take another 7 years [01:50] morena yes openbsd has, like amfora, bombadillo, castor and one other gui I think [01:50] schestowitz[TR] Lagrange and Kristall have appimages [01:50] psydruid I believe it's being kept out of repositories on purpose [01:50] schestowitz[TR] by who? [01:51] morena kristall too [01:51] psydruid distribution developers [01:51] schestowitz[TR] but why? [01:51] psydruid undesirable technologies [01:52] TR News Zig Bits 0x1: Returning slices from functions https://blog.orhun.dev/zig-bits-01/ [01:52] TR Bot Orhun's Blog [01:52] DaemonFC Firefox is not even all that much less terrible than Chrome anymore. [01:52] DaemonFC Just stock Chrome v. Firefox. [01:52] morena well at least it's still configurable in about:config [01:52] psydruid why can openbsd do it but debian can't? [01:53] morena debian does not have gemini browser? [01:53] psydruid it's not in the repositories, as far as I know [01:53] TR News Enrico Zini: Monitoring a heart rate monitor http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2023/debian/monitoring-a-heart-rate-monitor [01:53] TR Bot Monitoring a heart rate monitor [01:54] morena interesting [01:54] morena but debian is corporate crap anyway so [01:54] psydruid sure [01:54] morena but they have [01:55] morena just checked [01:55] morena all I mentioned [01:56] psydruid I just need to wait to get new storage before I install freebsd and/or openbsd alongside debian [01:56] psydruid I expect to need debian less and less over time [01:57] morena or use their testing if you really need debian [01:57] morena or is not stable enough? [01:57] psydruid and that's basically my final involvement with gnu/linux [01:57] morena yes ;/ [01:57] morena good move ;/ [01:57] psydruid no, I don't really need gnu/linux [01:58] psydruid I had all of these operating systems running on my hardware, but had to remove them due to storage limitations [01:58] morena so [01:58] TR News Jonathan McDowell: First impressions of the VisionFive 2 https://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/2023/02/visionfive-2-impressions.html [01:58] TR Bot First impressions of the VisionFive 2 [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [01:59] DaemonFC Some of his comments about Brave are extreme. [01:59] psydruid in one or two instances hard drives also died [01:59] TR News Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 236 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-236-released/ [01:59] TR Bot diffoscope 236 released [01:59] DaemonFC You can turn off the Rewards platform and all the other self-promoting shit and "privacy preserving analytics" and the browser works perfectly fine. ● Feb 18 [02:00] morena you probably download too much porn? [02:00] psydruid no, it's a lot of source code and virtual machines [02:01] psydruid and learning materials [02:01] DaemonFC You can never download too much porn. It's like Ron White said. Once you've seen one of them naked you kind of want to see them all. [02:01] DaemonFC I about died. [02:03] DaemonFC https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/11/google-mozilla-blacklist-gabs-dissenter-browser-extension/ [02:03] TR Bot Google, Mozilla Blacklist Gab's 'Dissenter' Free Speech Browser Extension [02:04] DaemonFC "This Brave fork was whipped out in literally a few days in response to the recent wave of censorship from Twitter, Facebook, Mozilla etc. Its claim to fame is being integrated with the Dissenter extension (banned from Firefox's and Chrome's extension stores (archive)) which allows you to comment on any article from any website, bypassing their censorship policies. Quite handy. To use it, however, you need to sign up for their social network, [02:04] DaemonFC which requires ReCaptcha (devs have dismissed the issue (archive)). Then, to post a comment, you of course have to share the site you're on with Dissenter, which - if used extensively - could build quite a profile of your browsing history." [02:04] DaemonFC LOL [02:06] DaemonFC Yeah, there's that. I like the concept of discussing whatever you want about a Web page with a plug-in but I'm not going to identify myself and let them build a profile. [02:08] DaemonFC ". Their site is also cloudflared, which means all your history and comments will be shared with the evil tech giant (archive), MITMing from the shadows." [02:08] DaemonFC LOL [02:09] DaemonFC Sounds like Google and Mozilla banning this thing did people a favor. [02:09] DaemonFC "Used to use a custom engine and was highly praised by the users, but after switching to Blink (Chrome engine) it dropped most of its features and left waves of dissatisfied users. A few years later it was bought by a Chinese company which put the final nail in its coffin. Forget about its bullshit marketing talk such as Now with a built-in ad blocker, battery saver and free VPN. Opera heavily spies on you (archive), including on your whole [02:09] DaemonFC browsing history. Integrated by default with spyware platforms such as Facebook, WhatsApp (owned by FB), and Telegram (apparently insecure according to the cryptographers). The VPN is very likely a Chinese honeypot and uMatrix outclasses all adblockers. Though it has some nice features like mouse gestures and automatic currency conversion, there's not much reason to use nuOpera over the other Chrome forks. Avoid." (Opera) [02:09] DaemonFC Yes, I used to love Opera. [02:10] DaemonFC I used it quite often. [02:10] DaemonFC Now I won't even install it. It's pointless. There's a million Chromium browsers that just use some additional unique spyware. [02:10] DaemonFC Microsoft even has one. [02:11] DaemonFC "The above cannot be disabled even if you're a programming ninja - because Vivaldi's source code is unavailable! Their New Tab page is filled with various partners' websites by default, including violators such as YouTube and Amazon - though you can fortunately remove those." [02:11] TR News Gunnar Wolf: We are GREAT at handling multimedia! https://gwolf.org/2023/02/we-are-great-at-handling-multimedia.html [02:11] TR Bot Gunnar Wolf We are GREAT at handling multimedia! [02:11] DaemonFC It keeps restoring those bookmarks even if you remove them. [02:11] DaemonFC Next time you get an update. [02:13] DaemonFC Pale Moon has gotten fucking ridiculous with the banning of extensions based on the whim of the developers. [02:13] DaemonFC And then scaring the crap out of the user by acting like it was the extension's fault. [02:13] TR News "So, there you go. Life in the terminal is still improving here in 2023, its great to see." https://exple.tive.org/blarg/2023/02/17/modern-problems-require-modern-solutions/ [02:13] TR Bot Modern Problems Require Modern Solutions | blarg [02:13] TR News Spidermonkey Development Blog: SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 110-111) https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2023/02/16/newsletter-firefox-110-111.html [02:13] TR Bot SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 110-111) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine [02:14] TR News Pluralistic: Google's chatbot panic (16 Feb 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/16/tweedledumber/ [02:14] TR Bot Pluralistic: Googles chatbot panic (16 Feb 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [02:14] DaemonFC "A contributor created a backup of Mozilla's XUL docs (that they want to delete in December 2020) and got dubbed an insect (archive) for it by Tobin, the other main developer." [02:15] DaemonFC Tobin was a real head case. [02:15] TR News HTTP request smuggling bug patched in HAProxy https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/http-request-smuggling-bug-patched-in-haproxy [02:15] TR Bot HTTP request smuggling bug patched in HAProxy | The Daily Swig [02:15] DaemonFC Even MC eventually got rid of him. [02:15] schestowitz[TR] mc? [02:16] TR News Named Booleans prevent C++ bugs and save you time https://raymii.org/s/blog/Named_Booleans_prevent_bugs.html [02:16] TR Bot Booleans prevent C++ bugs and save you time - Raymii.org [02:16] TR News Right of Access to Court Records Applies Even Absent Any Current "Substantial Public Interest in This Case" https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/17/right-of-access-to-court-records-applies-even-absent-any-current-substantial-public-interest-in-this-case/ [02:16] TR Bot Right of Access to Court Records Applies Even Absent Any Current "Substantial Public Interest in This Case" [02:16] TR News Public University Committee Members' Names Aren't Protected by the Right of Expressive Association https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/17/public-university-committee-members-names-arent-protected-by-the-right-of-expressive-association/ [02:16] TR Bot Public University Committee Members' Names Aren't Protected by the Right of Expressive Association [02:17] TR News Rupert Murdoch Called Trump's Stolen-Election Fantasy 'Really Crazy Stuff.' Fox News Promoted It Anyway. https://reason.com/2023/02/17/rupert-murdoch-called-trumps-stolen-election-fantasy-really-crazy-stuff-fox-news-promoted-it-anyway/ [02:17] TR Bot While Fox News Promoted Trump's Election Lies, Rupert Murdoch Called Them 'Crazy' [02:18] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: https://rubenerd.com/caught-covid/ [02:18] TR Bot Caught Covid [02:18] schestowitz[TR] same as you [02:18] schestowitz[TR] similar age too [02:19] TR News Amazon will ask employees to spend at least three days a week in the office https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/17/amazon-will-ask-employees-spend-least-three-days-week-office/ [02:19] TR Bot will ask employees to spend at least three days a week in the office - SiliconANGLE [02:19] TR News siliconangle conflating search with chatbot in ANOTHER piece of Microsoft SPAM [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:20] TR News "orchestrating a multibillion-dollar crypto asset securities fraud" https://siliconangle.com/2023/02/17/sec-charges-kwon-terraform-labs-fraud-collapse-terrausd/ [02:20] TR Bot charges Do Kwon, Terraform Labs with fraud over the collapse of TerraUSD - SiliconANGLE [02:21] TR News Publishers that continue to post spam for Microsoft (to help distract from MICROSOFT LAYOFFS) discredit themselves. [02:22] TR News Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/16/latest-updates-stanford-president-under-investigation-for-research-misconduct/ [02:22] TR Bot Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct [02:23] TR News What my failed sell-out attempts have taught me https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/15/what-my-failed-sell-out-attempts-have-taught-me/ [02:23] TR Bot What my failed sell-out attempts have taught me [02:24] morena oh shit covidmaniac [02:26] schestowitz[TR] ruben? [02:27] morena you [02:36] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [02:36] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [02:36] DaemonFC The man in Texas who invented the "sue everyone over abortion" law is targeting public libraries now. [02:36] DaemonFC In his new draft, anyone who doesn't like a library book in Texas can sue. [02:36] DaemonFC This is how the far-right terrorists win. They make it impossible to run a library because everyone is suing everyone else over every book, then it shuts down and children can't read. [02:36] DaemonFC Libraries are a very Marxist concept and it's a wonder how conservatives and copyright promoters have allowed them to go on this long. [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[03:05] TR News #KeepItOn in Nigeria: social media, internet must stay connected during elections https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-nigeria-elections/ [03:05] TR Bot #KeepItOn in Nigeria: social media, internet must stay connected during elections - Access Now [03:05] TR News Open letter: the government of Nigeria must keep the internet and social media platforms open and secure during the 2023 general elections and beyond https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-nigeria-elections-open-letter/ [03:05] TR Bot Open letter: the government of Nigeria must keep the internet and social media platforms open and secure during the 2023 general elections and beyond - Access Now [03:05] DaemonFC MinceR, schestowitz[TR] I still haven't owned a car with Gasoline Direct Inject. [03:06] MinceR i have one [03:06] DaemonFC I was planning to hold off on that until there was no other choice. [03:06] schestowitz[TR] what are the downsides? [03:06] DaemonFC Serious problems from carbon fouling are much harder to arrive at with MPFI/SFI. [03:06] schestowitz[TR] ime, it gets worse over time [03:06] schestowitz[TR] we used to actually get serviced at the station [03:07] MinceR it also sounds worse (clicky noise) [03:07] MinceR (at least when idling) [03:07] schestowitz[TR] i didn't have tto bother with the oil-soaked handles [03:07] DaemonFC The direct spray pattern leads to more accumulation of carbon deposits in the combustion chamber. [03:07] schestowitz[TR] and I paid cash [03:07] DaemonFC Then you get knocking and pinging and paying mechanics to tear the engine up and blast it out. [03:07] MinceR afaik it's more that with port injection, the carbon fouling would get washed off [03:07] DaemonFC Yes. [03:07] MinceR but with direct injection, the gasoline doesn't get to that part at all [03:07] MinceR Toyota has something that does both for both advantages [03:08] DaemonFC Because of the port injection, the gasoline (in liquid state) actually cleans up its own deposits to some extent. [03:08] schestowitz[TR] so the engines too get worse, still? [03:08] DaemonFC Yep! [03:08] schestowitz[TR] undere the guise of..? [03:08] MinceR yeah [03:08] DaemonFC Better power and fuel economy with GDI, until it gets crapped up. [03:08] MinceR Toyota isn't even selling Land Cruisers anymore with V8-s [03:08] DaemonFC Then you're shelling out repair money to deal with carbon fouling. [03:08] MinceR they have a twin turbo V6 instead, which is, according to Scotty, less reliable [03:08] MinceR which is a disgrace [03:08] schestowitz[TR] meh [03:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], If you get a GDI, I'd recommend buying Techron in bulk. [03:09] MinceR but i suspect they couldn't avoid it due to government interference [03:09] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: say I bought a car this weekend [03:09] DaemonFC Tossing it in every 3-4 tanks and running that tank down before refilling. [03:09] schestowitz[TR] I assume it would have to be "modern" [03:09] schestowitz[TR] and cost a lot [03:09] schestowitz[TR] how long will it last? [03:09] MinceR depends [03:09] schestowitz[TR] and how much to service/maintain? [03:09] DaemonFC Depends on a lot of things, including the brand. [03:09] MinceR a BMW will probably burn down in less than 3 years [03:09] DaemonFC Honda still makes good cars. [03:09] MinceR i suspect a Toyota could still keep going for 20 years [03:09] DaemonFC But the good or decent car company list has gotten down to Honda nad Toyota. [03:10] DaemonFC *and [03:10] schestowitz[TR] only 20 years? [03:10] schestowitz[TR] and then junkyard? [03:10] MinceR not sure [03:10] DaemonFC The Buick still runs. [03:10] schestowitz[TR] rianne's dad still ride a car nearly 30 years old [03:10] MinceR i don't know the full history of my Carina which didn't work so well after 20 years [03:10] schestowitz[TR] *rides [03:10] DaemonFC It needed a lot of attention though. [03:10] DaemonFC Including a brake overhaul including the ABS parts. [03:10] MinceR yeah, i don't really feel like giving a car a lot of attention [03:11] schestowitz[TR] that's what scares me [03:11] schestowitz[TR] I can afford any car [03:11] schestowitz[TR] atm [03:11] schestowitz[TR] but they take up a ton of time and moneyh [03:11] schestowitz[TR] paperwork and cleaning alone can be an hour per week [03:11] schestowitz[TR] not counting all the other stuf [03:11] DaemonFC I went to flush out the radiator and ended up with no heat. [03:11] DaemonFC Because there was so much crap that it plugged the heater core. [03:12] morena ye, that was the main issue when I had a car [03:12] DaemonFC Then there was shit floating around in the overflow tank already again! [03:12] DaemonFC So I had to have the dealership do a Blue Devil procedure on it. [03:12] morena too much time, money, energy spent on fucking car [03:12] schestowitz[TR] they shoiuld make cars very simple [03:12] schestowitz[TR] like bicycle [03:12] DaemonFC To dissolve the gunk in acid and then flush it with water a few times and put in new coolant. [03:12] schestowitz[TR] I can prepare and repair a bike fast [03:12] DaemonFC It's still nice and orange. [03:12] schestowitz[TR] no "take is back from the garage" [03:12] DaemonFC Blue Devil must be good stuff. [03:13] MinceR well, BEVs can be very simple [03:13] schestowitz[TR] in 2013-2023 i only needed bike serviced once [03:13] MinceR but the battery technology is questionable [03:13] schestowitz[TR] that involved me taking out the shweel [03:13] DaemonFC They make a head gasket sealer compound too. [03:13] schestowitz[TR] and bringing it in to a shop to replace the inner tube on the spot [03:13] MinceR i doubt there's an internal combustion engine that is itself not a lot more complex than an entire bike [03:13] DaemonFC Head gaskets are so expensive to do right that a lot of people turn to mechanic in a bottle shit to spackle over what's left of the one that's still in there. [03:13] MinceR (human-powered bike, that is) [03:13] DaemonFC With any luck it'll hold up for several years and you might be done with the car anyway. [03:14] MinceR i doubt even a BEV can be as simple as a human-powered bicycle [03:14] schestowitz[TR] you alsoi don't get parking tickets for a bike [03:14] DaemonFC You can get tickets regarding a bike. [03:14] MinceR you also get killed much more easily on a bike [03:14] schestowitz[TR] but the point is, mechanical cars are easier to repair [03:14] schestowitz[TR] and modular [03:14] MinceR what is a "mechanical car"? [03:14] DaemonFC $500 for riding it on the sidewalk to get away from the Mexicans with no insurance that hit and run. [03:14] DaemonFC :) [03:14] schestowitz[TR] no electric [03:14] DaemonFC Mmmmm, decisions decisions. [03:15] DaemonFC Am I right, MinceR? [03:15] MinceR not sure about the reliability of those [03:15] schestowitz[TR] headlighyts - modular [03:15] schestowitz[TR] headlights [03:15] schestowitz[TR] you come to the store [03:15] schestowitz[TR] "sir, i need a pair of new headlights [03:15] MinceR wait, no electric or just no electronic? [03:15] MinceR i'm not sure how you can get a non-electric ignition system [03:15] schestowitz[TR] takes headlights out of box, replaces existing ones [03:15] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: modular battery [03:15] MinceR but even if it's supposed to be non-electronic, that would have plenty of moving parts that cause unreliability [03:15] schestowitz[TR] for lights [03:16] schestowitz[TR] engine is not electronic anyhow [03:16] MinceR the engine control unit is electronic [03:16] schestowitz[TR] and proprietary [03:16] morena like old cards [03:16] morena cars [03:16] MinceR ignition control that doesn't rely on a spinning contact in a box to make your spark plugs work is also electronic [03:17] schestowitz[TR] they car make cars you can repair at home [03:17] schestowitz[TR] or buy poarts for [03:17] schestowitz[TR] in ebay [03:17] schestowitz[TR] even second hand [03:17] MinceR depends very much on the part supply [03:17] MinceR which is running out [03:17] schestowitz[TR] that won't happen [03:17] schestowitz[TR] they pass laws to even ban repairing your own car [03:17] schestowitz[TR] it's a fucking price-fixing cartel [03:17] schestowitz[TR] for 4 four 'sofa' seats in a chasis they charge over 20,000 pounds [03:18] schestowitz[TR] because it comes with 6 glass winders, 2 side mirrors, an engine and some 3 mm laywer os allow/tin [03:18] schestowitz[TR] *alloy [03:18] MinceR also, i'm not sure if you really want to do all the things manually that would be controlled by the ECU [03:18] schestowitz[TR] they can do the MOT [03:19] schestowitz[TR] check the car runs ok [03:19] schestowitz[TR] once a year [03:19] morena but still [03:19] schestowitz[TR] the components can be good [03:19] morena the main issue is traveling [03:19] schestowitz[TR] and you get to choose them [03:19] morena which is waste for no reason [03:19] schestowitz[TR] let's face is, when you buy xar x it's not all x [03:19] schestowitz[TR] they get components [03:19] MinceR adjusting ignition timing, adjusting the amount of fuel you let through while idling [03:19] schestowitz[TR] like an engine of a "lesser" mercedes [03:19] MinceR (you'd have a carburetor since ignition systems are electronic...) [03:19] schestowitz[TR] made in some eastern european mercedes factory [03:19] schestowitz[TR] and branded for various other car "brands" [03:20] MinceR s/ignition/injection/ [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[03:22] morena it's all big corpos worldwide [03:22] morena not matter where they have factories [03:22] schestowitz[TR] many cars use german components [03:23] schestowitz[TR] not even made in germany [03:23] schestowitz[TR] some even use mirrors of another brand [03:23] schestowitz[TR] but they don't tell you thatg [03:23] MinceR that's fine, some of their components are fine [03:23] schestowitz[TR] you're meant to think of it as "integrated" experience" [03:23] MinceR it's just that when they design a car, they go "hold my beer" [03:23] schestowitz[TR] remember how much cars cost in the 90s? [03:23] schestowitz[TR] I still remember [03:23] MinceR and they stack up all the complications they can think of, just to flex [03:23] schestowitz[TR] the prices seem to have quadrupled since [03:23] schestowitz[TR] also for fixing stuff [03:24] schestowitz[TR] and the cars barely improved [03:24] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr53h0hv8hI [03:24] TR Bot https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=kr53h0hv8hI [03:24] TR Bot invidious.flokinet.to | How to Start and Drive 1928 Ford Model A Tudor Sedan - Invidious [03:24] schestowitz[TR] you could buy a laptop [03:24] schestowitz[TR] put that inside an old car [03:24] schestowitz[TR] voila! "modern" car [03:24] morena ye [03:24] schestowitz[TR] and you can easily repair the laptop [03:24] schestowitz[TR] you can even - gasp- take it from the car home [03:25] schestowitz[TR] and load some extra songs on it or whatnot [03:25] MinceR in that video, you can see how tricky it is just to start a simple car without electronics :> [03:25] schestowitz[TR] howw about cars with batteries? [03:25] MinceR this one apparently has an electric starter though [03:25] schestowitz[TR] the chemistry in the batteries is just an energy source [03:25] MinceR you could even have one that doesn't [03:26] schestowitz[TR] like kids' toy cars [03:26] schestowitz[TR] you could make a one-person car that weighs like 500KG [03:26] schestowitz[TR] electric [03:26] schestowitz[TR] fortified kids' car [03:26] MinceR and would disintegrate in a light collision :> [03:26] morena ;/ [03:26] MinceR remember, the streets are full of functionally blind people in large cars [03:27] schestowitz[TR] because you share a road with savages [03:27] MinceR indeed [03:27] schestowitz[TR] like budapestian taxi drivers [03:27] MinceR yeah, the taxi drivers are some of the most dangerous ones [03:27] schestowitz[TR] tthey "own" the road [03:28] schestowitz[TR] and roll down the window to shout at people [03:28] MinceR and slalom between lanes [03:28] MinceR including lanes that don't even go the same way [03:28] TR News News Roundup: Deliberate Lies https://www.americanoversight.org/news-roundup-deliberate-lies [03:28] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/news-roundup-deliberate-lies ) [03:29] TR News In the Documents: Emails Between Pennsylvanias Butler County Commissioners and Prominent Election Denial Group https://www.americanoversight.org/in-the-documents-emails-between-pennsylvanias-butler-county-commissioners-and-prominent-election-denial-group [03:29] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/in-the-documents-emails-between-pennsylvanias-butler-county-commissioners-and-prominent-election-denial-group ) [03:29] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: yeah, that kills good drivers [03:29] schestowitz[TR] head on [03:30] schestowitz[TR] some people value only their own life [03:30] DaemonFC https://i.redd.it/1rc9ni2d8uia1.jpg [03:30] MinceR some people don't even value their own life [03:30] DaemonFC I don't. [03:30] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: lol [03:30] DaemonFC I'm alive because of guilt. [03:30] MinceR i'm alive because of inertia [03:31] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: that makes a stigma though [03:31] schestowitz[TR] probably some racist trumpsters spread this [03:31] MinceR stigmas are easy to come across [03:31] DaemonFC If I shot myself, who would take care of Mandy? Do you think anyone who blows $100 in the Apple store when you're not watching is going to pay their rent? [03:31] schestowitz[TR] i'm alive because my heart pulsates :-) [03:32] MinceR one of the most popular human pastimes: finding reasons to look down on other people [03:32] schestowitz[TR] technically [03:32] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: ego [03:32] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: "commies" use doordash? [03:32] MinceR also dealing with one's own inadequacy and misfortune [03:32] MinceR "well, at least my skin isn't dark..." [03:32] schestowitz[TR] to the trump voters, anything that's not trust is communist russia [03:32] schestowitz[TR] but trump was the one shaking hands with putler [03:33] MinceR "well, at least i'm male and have no gender dysphoria..." [03:33] schestowitz[TR] AFTER he had invaded crimea [03:33] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Mom, who hasn't seen this, was talking about younger people where she works using Doordash every day when there's restaurants across the street. [03:33] schestowitz[TR] class signalling [03:33] MinceR schestowitz[TR]: also, you're going to be less safe in a car without ABS [03:33] DaemonFC She said she's looked at Doordash and Uber Eats and even though they say $0 delivery, they always add fees and stuff or the menu items are all more expensive. [03:33] schestowitz[TR] meanwhile we buy foods 90% off original price [03:33] schestowitz[TR] and don't worry what "friends" "might think" [03:34] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], We eat out quite a bit but I've never used Uber Eats. I used Doordash once. [03:34] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: smaller cars would help [03:34] DaemonFC My chicken arrived cold but I didn't complain because the lady was driving a rustbucket and had her kids in the back seat. [03:34] schestowitz[TR] in case of collisoopn [03:34] MinceR doubtful [03:34] DaemonFC I just never used Doordash again and removed it from my phone. [03:34] schestowitz[TR] cars became far too heavy and tall [03:34] schestowitz[TR] it kills a lot of people [03:35] schestowitz[TR] *collision [03:35] MinceR with ABS you have a better chance of _avoiding_ a collision [03:35] MinceR in some cases [03:35] schestowitz[TR] it also creates more blind spots for drivers [03:36] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: people ought to learn how to cook [03:36] schestowitz[TR] you can make lots of food [03:36] schestowitz[TR] in one go [03:36] schestowitz[TR] in a home with multiple people it pays off more [03:36] schestowitz[TR] though deliveries get cheaper per unit... in quantity [03:36] schestowitz[TR] but it's not so much the laziness [03:36] schestowitz[TR] but the "class" thing [03:36] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0imK2TaNUk [03:36] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=z0imK2TaNUk [03:37] schestowitz[TR] people sit in restaurants and get "served" [03:37] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=z0imK2TaNUk ) [03:37] schestowitz[TR] then they want to have everything delivered warm [03:37] schestowitz[TR] in cardboard boxes [03:37] schestowitz[TR] they would be better off putting something inside the oven at home [03:37] schestowitz[TR] also better for the environment [03:37] schestowitz[TR] less travel, less materials [03:38] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: the people who spread such a 'meme' probably have no student loan [03:38] schestowitz[TR] because they never went to college [03:42] TR News "He also notes the lack of transparency on the part of the NIH in the work they were minimally funding in the Wuhan Institute of Virology" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/insight-impact/in-the-news/metzl-on-fox-news-discussing-the-need-to-investigate-the-origins-of-covid/ [03:42] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/insight-impact/in-the-news/metzl-on-fox-news-discussing-the-need-to-investigate-the-origins-of-covid/ ) [03:45] TR News Control 8 relays with the Raspberry Pi Pico using PicoRelay8 or Pico-Relay-B https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/02/16/control-8-relays-with-the-raspberry-pi-pico-using-picorelay8-or-pico-relay-b/ [03:45] TR Bot Control 8 relays with the Raspberry Pi Pico using PicoRelay8 or Pico-Relay-B - CNX Software [03:46] TR News Wikimedia wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Heres whats at stake. https://cyberscoop.com/wikimedia-nsa-supreme-court-surveillance/ [03:46] TR Bot wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Here's what's at stake. | CyberScoop [03:46] TR News FBI says cyber incident at New York field office contained https://cyberscoop.com/fbi-new-york-cyberattack/ [03:46] TR Bot says cyber incident at New York field office contained | CyberScoop [03:48] TR News After apparent hack, data from Australian tech giant Atlassian dumped online https://cyberscoop.com/atlassian-hack-employee-data-seigedsec/ [03:48] TR Bot apparent hack, data from Australian tech giant Atlassian dumped online | CyberScoop [03:48] TR News US government launches strike force to combat Chinese and Russian technology threats https://cyberscoop.com/justice-department-commerce-strike-force-cfius-china-russia/ Microsoft Windows needs to be culled [03:48] TR Bot government launches 'strike force' to combat Chinese and Russian technology threats | CyberScoop [03:48] TR News Hacks, leaks and wipers: Google analyzes a year of Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine https://cyberscoop.com/hacks-leaks-and-wipers-google-analyzes-a-year-of-russian-cyberattacks-on-ukraine/ And again, Microsoft Windows needs to be culled [03:48] TR Bot leaks and wipers: Google analyzes a year of Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine | CyberScoop [03:57] TR News Sweetwater schools internet outage disrupts student learning and could last all week https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/education/story/2023-02-16/sweetwater-schools-systems-outage-week [03:57] TR Bot Sweetwater schools systems outage expected to last all week - The San Diego Union-Tribune [03:58] TR News FBI got pwn3d: "FBI officials believe the incident involved an FBI computer system used in investigations of images of child sexual exploitation, two sources briefed on the matter told CNN." https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/17/politics/fbi-cyber-incident-computer-network/index.html [03:58] TR Bot FBI says it has 'contained' cyber incident on bureau's computer network | CNN Politics [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [03:59] TR News "After the data breach was discovered on Friday, an investigation into the matter found that several passwords belonging to Grade 7 students in the district had been posted to a shared Google Classroom during the 2020-2021 school year. After this document was found, it was immediately removed." https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/mountpleasant/schools/data-breach-reported-at-mount-pleasant-central-school-district/856998/ [03:59] TR Bot Data Breach Reported At Mount Pleasant Central School District | Mount Pleasant Daily Voice ● Feb 18 [04:00] TR News GoDaddy got cracked and kept quiet about it https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/godaddy-hackers-stole-source-code-installed-malware-in-multi-year-breach/ [04:00] TR Bot GoDaddy: Hackers stole source code, installed malware in multi-year breach [04:01] TR News BD issues cybersecurity alert for hacking risk found in Alaris infusion pump software https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/bd-issues-cybersecurity-alert-hacking-risk-found-alaris-infusion-pump-software Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/bd-issues-cybersecurity-alert-hacking-risk-found-alaris-infusion-pump-software [04:01] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/bd-issues-cybersecurity-alert-hacking-risk-found-alaris-infusion-pump-software ) [04:02] TR News "Spains National Court has agreed to the extradition to the U.S. of a British citizen who allegedly took part in computer attacks including the hacking in 2020 of Twitter accounts of public figures such as Joseph Biden, Barack Obama and [Famous Criminal] Bill Gates" https://thepublicsradio.org/article/spain-orders-extradition-of-british-alleged-hacker-to-us [04:02] TR Bot Spain orders extradition of British alleged hacker to U.S. [04:08] TR News Techrights Bulletin for Friday, February 17, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives [04:08] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:08] TR News Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [04:08] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [04:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [04:09] DaemonFC DaemonFC: the people who spread such a 'meme' probably have no student loan [04:09] DaemonFC because they never went to college [04:10] DaemonFC Back to the movie (true story) I was watching last night. [04:10] DaemonFC The first victim got into the guy's car because she was trying to get to court on time to save her child from Ohio Social Services. [04:10] DaemonFC They took the kid away because her boyfriend hit him, and she relied on the boyfriend for financial reasons because she had no High School Diploma. [04:11] DaemonFC The movie showed her trying to get a job at a laundromat but they wouldn't hire her because of not having the HSD. [04:11] MinceR Hybrid Synergy Drive? [04:11] MinceR oh, High School Diploma. [04:11] DaemonFC So indirectly, she became the first victim of Ariel Castro and lost her son because of not passing high school. [04:11] TR News Layoffs Hit Motown Records Amidst Capitol Music Group Restructuring https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/layoffs-hit-motown-records-amidst-capitol-music-group-restructuring/ [04:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/layoffs-hit-motown-records-amidst-capitol-music-group-restructuring/ ) [04:11] DaemonFC I fail to see why you would need high school to fold laundry and count out small change at a laundromat. [04:12] DaemonFC It's just another way shit rolls downhill. [04:12] TR News Streaming = YOU OWN NOTHING! You're a slave of some evil company https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/spotify-music-listeners-us-report/ [04:12] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/spotify-music-listeners-us-report/ ) [04:12] DaemonFC The person running the business has a college degree, so everyone under her will have a High School Diploma, even though you can fold clothes and count out change and iron things without one. [04:12] DaemonFC It's all about power and control. [04:12] TR News ARIA Fires Back Against TikToks Song Restrictions in Australia: An Attempt to Downplay the Significance of Music https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/tiktok-australia-test-pushback/ [04:12] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/17/tiktok-australia-test-pushback/ ) [04:13] TR News Top Justice Department Official Advises Against Using TikTok: We Need to Be Very Concerned https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/tiktok-justice-department-comments/ [04:13] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/tiktok-justice-department-comments/ ) [04:14] DaemonFC The next person who walks in might have passed high school and end up being the WORST employee you've ever had. [04:14] DaemonFC While the one that you turned away might never have even taken a sick day. [04:14] TR News MAYBE YouTube will even make money one day.... https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki-stepping-down/ [04:14] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/16/youtube-ceo-susan-wojcicki-stepping-down/ ) [04:15] DaemonFC High School doesn't mean shit these days. [04:15] DaemonFC It really doesn't. [04:15] TR News Roblox Reports Nearly $1 Billion Net Loss in 2022 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ [04:15] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/ ) [04:15] DaemonFC I lied to get my GED and said I dropped out when I was 16, but honestly I didn't. [04:15] DaemonFC It was all fucking around and not even going to school after about 15 or so. [04:15] DaemonFC The truancy officer was about to take my parents to court. [04:15] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: many companies operate at a loss [04:16] schestowitz[TR] this is FakeEconomy as I call it. [04:16] DaemonFC Then I take a test in half the allotted time and do great on it and bam! [04:16] DaemonFC GED. [04:16] schestowitz[TR] it grows... in debt [04:17] DaemonFC The score I got on the GED proves that I knew at least as much as someone who graduated high school with about an A- in everything but math and a B+ in 1989. [04:17] DaemonFC So, not bad for someone who skipped three years. [04:17] TR News HTML phishing attachment with browser-in-the-browser technique, (Thu, Feb 16th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29556 [04:17] DaemonFC There are a lot of people floating around out there that are a lot dumber than me. [04:17] TR Bot InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center [04:17] DaemonFC And many of them have student loans and no career. [04:18] DaemonFC Because they let someone talk them into spending $40,000 plus interest to study political science or something. [04:18] morena if company want be profitable most of the time it has scam people [04:18] morena or do some harmful things [04:18] TR News Companies that suck and hire bad people won't appreciate any of the work of the good people. That latter group, the good people, would sooner or later give up on contributing anything. Some would also leave. [04:18] schestowitz[TR] morena: usually [04:18] DaemonFC I mean, who wants a degree in something where, at best, they float from city to city working for the local mayor's campaign every now and then? [04:18] schestowitz[TR] or overcharge clients [04:19] schestowitz[TR] like charge them a lot for a simple job [04:19] schestowitz[TR] by lying to them [04:19] morena ye [04:19] schestowitz[TR] honest people can compensate for it [04:19] morena bc. all other scam around, you can't survive usually if you do it like a human [04:19] schestowitz[TR] by quantity [04:19] schestowitz[TR] they will get people returning [04:19] schestowitz[TR] and paying little at a time [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:20] morena whole clown world is build on shit [04:20] TR News Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/two-ways-us-patent-office-could-do-better-examination [04:20] TR Bot Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination | Electronic Frontier Foundation [04:21] TR News engadget still behaving like a Microsoft SPAM ENGINE. Skipping! [04:21] DaemonFC Yeah, most people running a company have no idea what anyone there really does. [04:22] DaemonFC Google has so many employees it's like the population of a decent sized city. [04:22] DaemonFC It becomes unmanageable. People burrow into large organizations and hide. [04:23] TR News And why is this news? It's NOT news, it's SPAM - typical media in 2023. "Writing" or "reposting" (or computer-generated "content") what PAYS, not what's actually important and relevant. [04:23] morena more managers and bosses then workers ;/ [04:23] morena everyone filling excell sheets [04:23] schestowitz[TR] bosses to boss the bosses [04:23] morena for somebody above [04:23] schestowitz[TR] who are bossed by "executives" [04:23] schestowitz[TR] who do nothing all day [04:24] morena and asking for it from somebody bellow ;/ [04:24] schestowitz[TR] hire PR people to be bossed [04:24] schestowitz[TR] to draft "statements" for the "executives" [04:24] schestowitz[TR] then pushed into corrupt media [04:24] schestowitz[TR] accounting will bribe the media [04:24] schestowitz[TR] marketing department will write the 'article' [04:25] schestowitz[TR] "we are GREEN DIVERSE OMG!! WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY BUT HIRE NOBODY HERE;0:" [04:25] morena and new gamechanger - features out of microsoft is born ;/ [04:25] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source [04:25] TR Bot Sirius Open Source - Techrights [04:25] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/ [04:25] TR Bot [Meme] Almost Nothing Gets Done at the Office (Management Pretending to be Busy) | Techrights [04:26] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/ [04:26] morena also hirring now it's like take one cripple, one trans, one black, one ukrainian no matter they can't do shit [04:27] TR News Oh, crap! It's worse. Engadget has become almost a LITERAL spam farm (add a pig or kaban). A lot of the links are fake. They're spam too. The site only runs some skeleton crew, much like CNET... [04:28] TR News Engadget: ignore all the shopping.yahoo.com linkfarming/spamfarming, we still pretend to be a news site! [04:29] morena oh spam [04:29] morena good that you mentioned it [04:29] TR News engadget is DONE! Stick a fork in it. Spamfarming, posting SPAM for Microsoft (obviously paid-for hype campaign). Not much reporting left. [04:30] schestowitz[TR] morena: you called the above "spam" [04:30] schestowitz[TR] just because you didntt fancy it [04:31] TR News Ubuntu Security: Best practices for securing your system https://www.fosslinux.com/100675/ubuntu-security-best-practices-for-securing-your-system.htm [04:31] TR Bot Ubuntu Security: Best Practices for Securing Your System [04:32] TR News Engadget is STILL posting Microsoft spam. Maybe time for a boycott then. Not much of value left there... [04:33] TR News Bulgarian police find 18 people dead in abandoned truck carrying migrants https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230217-bulgarian-police-find-18-people-dead-in-abandoned-truck-carrying-migrants [04:34] TR Bot Bulgarian police find 18 people dead in abandoned truck carrying migrants [04:35] morena schestowitz[TR]: ye spaming main channel with 1000 links in day is spam ;/ [04:35] TR News Nigeria: Protests at banks and ATMs break out amid cash scarcity concerns https://observers.france24.com/en/africa/20230217-nigeria-naira-cash-scarcity-protests-banks-election [04:35] TR Bot Nigeria: Protests at banks and ATMs break out amid cash scarcity concerns [04:35] morena but it's your choice to kick out any user who want to talk here [04:35] schestowitz[TR] morena: no, 100-200 [04:35] morena oh only [04:35] schestowitz[TR] we don't kickm out people [04:36] morena who will survive that links invade? [04:36] morena people usually come to irc talk [04:36] morena not for rss feed [04:37] morena and if some idiot sometime want that, he usually make #channel-news [04:37] morena where bot spam crap [04:37] morena nobody is interested in it [04:38] morena but it's there for sake of it [04:38] schestowitz[TR] look, you've come to a 15-y-o network/channel [04:38] schestowitz[TR] and you make complaints [04:38] schestowitz[TR] seeing who will come and who will leave [04:38] morena 15 year old? [04:38] schestowitz[TR] you were here less than 2 days [04:38] schestowitz[TR] yes, this goes back to 2008 [04:38] morena and still 4 users with 25 nicks? [04:38] morena that's probably the reason [04:38] morena that spam I mentioned ;/ [04:39] schestowitz[TR] you measure the wrong thing [04:39] morena so I come as light ;/ [04:39] schestowitz[TR] and you have no irc network of your own [04:40] morena so after 15 years you was enlightened [04:40] morena by 2 days user [04:40] morena use your free will and best of you now ;/ [04:40] schestowitz[TR] you barely enlightened me on anything [04:40] schestowitz[TR] you reject vaccines [04:41] morena of course [04:41] schestowitz[TR] saying they attack bodies [04:41] morena I am not an brainwashed idiot [04:41] schestowitz[TR] ok, whateva' [04:41] morena ye [04:41] TR News Hong Kong govt deregisters pro-democracy union that called for protest ahead of security law https://hongkongfp.com/2023/02/17/hong-kong-govt-deregisters-pro-democracy-union-that-called-for-protest-ahead-of-security-law/ [04:41] TR Bot Hong Kong gov't deregisters pro-democracy union that called for protest ahead of security law - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [04:42] TR News January arrivals in Hong Kong just 7 per cent of 2019 figures https://hongkongfp.com/2023/02/17/january-arrivals-in-hong-kong-just-7-per-cent-of-2019-figures/ [04:42] TR Bot January arrivals in Hong Kong just 7 per cent of 2019 figures - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [04:45] TR News US Senator Calls for Human Rights Defender Visa Category https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/02/17/us-senator-calls-human-rights-defender-visa-category [04:45] TR Bot US Senator Calls for Human Rights Defender Visa Category | Human Rights Watch [04:48] TR News This will compel companies to hire even fewer women https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/spain-approves-first-menstrual-leave-law-in-europe/ [04:48] TR Bot Spain approves first menstrual leave law in Europe - JURIST - News [04:50] TR News German constitutional court declares police use of automated data analysis unconstitutional https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/german-constitutional-court-declares-police-use-of-automated-data-analysis-unconstitutional/ [04:50] TR Bot German constitutional court declares police use of automated data analysis unconstitutional - JURIST - News [04:55] TR News How to Install and Use NeoVim [Vim-based] Text Editor https://www.linuxshelltips.com/neovim-text-editor/ [04:55] TR Bot How to Install and Use NeoVim As an IDE for Developers [04:55] TR News How to Install Ubuntu 22.04 LTS {Step by Step} with Screenshots https://www.linuxteck.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-22-04-lts-step-by-step/ [04:55] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxteck.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-22-04-lts-step-by-step/ ) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [05:06] DaemonFC Student loans. Like Al Bundy's car. [05:06] DaemonFC No gas, no upholstery, and six more payments. [05:09] TR News (NEW): LibreOffice, SamNet Vinterkonferensen, OSI Still Selling Out to Microsofters, and FOSS Weekly is Out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/LibreOffice_SamNet_Vinterkonferensen_OSI_Still_Selling_Out_to_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/LibreOffice_SamNet_Vinterkonferensen_OSI_Still_Selling_Out_to_M.gmi [05:09] TR Bot Tux Machines LibreOffice, SamNet Vinterkonferensen, OSI Still Selling Out to Microsofters, and FOSS Weekly is Out [05:09] TR News (NEW): Clonezilla Stable 3.0.3-22 supports multiple LUKS devices, Linux Kernel 6.1.11-1, and more http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/y.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/y.gmi [05:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Clonezilla Stable 3.0.3-22 supports multiple LUKS devices, Linux Kernel 6.1.11-1, and more [05:09] TR News (NEW): The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/The_Best_Terminal_Emulators_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/The_Best_Terminal_Emulators_for_Linux.gmi [05:09] TR Bot Tux Machines The Best Terminal Emulators for Linux [05:11] TR News privacy abuse in media https://michaelwest.com.au/higgins-claims-diary-details-leaked-to-the-media/ [05:11] TR Bot Higgins claims diary details leaked to the media - Michael West [05:12] TR News Savers need to keep pressure on banks: RBA https://michaelwest.com.au/savers-need-to-keep-pressure-on-banks-rba/ [05:12] TR Bot Savers need to keep pressure on banks: RBA - Michael West [05:18] TR News "Today I was looking at my system logs and happened to notice that I didn't rotate my gemlog this year. A while ago I made it so the index file only shows entries from the current year in order to prevent the index from becoming too long." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202302180804.gmi [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:20] TR News "This is the ninth in a planned series of posts (well, tenth if you count the announcement) where I'll share my experience writing smolver, my Gemini server software, written in Swift." gemini://ainent.xyz/devlog/smolver/2023-02-17-smolver-development-log-part-9.gmi [05:24] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [05:24] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [05:29] TR News Still growing: "There are 3141 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 2318 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [05:31] TR News Dislosure absent. The author is paid by ICBM to constantly shill ICBM for over a decade already. https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/02/17/ibm-builds-an-ai-supercomputer-on-the-cheap-in-its-cloud/ [05:31] TR Bot IBM Builds An AI Supercomputer On The Cheap In Its Cloud [05:32] TR News Many of today's press articles are, for all intents and purposes, just advertisements that aren't labelled as such [05:33] TR News (NEW): This Past Week in GNOME and Sam Thursfield's Status Update http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_Past_Week_in_GNOME_and_Sam_Thursfield_s_Status_Update.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_Past_Week_in_GNOME_and_Sam_Thursfield_s_Status_Update.gmi [05:33] TR Bot Tux Machines This Past Week in GNOME and Sam Thursfield's Status Update [05:33] TR News (NEW): ucaresystem core 4.4.0, Croc, and Free/Libre FPS Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/ucaresystem_core_4_4_0_Croc_and_Free_Libre_FPS_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/ucaresystem_core_4_4_0_Croc_and_Free_Libre_FPS_Games.gmi [05:33] TR Bot Tux Machines ucaresystem core 4.4.0, Croc, and Free/Libre FPS Games [05:34] TR News PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-jdbc-4254-released-2599/ [05:34] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released [05:36] TR News While BillBC (BBC) takes bribes from Bill Gates to advance its agenda and cover up his crime... instead of informing people who pay TV Licensing. https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/tim-davie-licence-fee/ [05:36] TR Bot Tim Davie licence fee comments met with fury in commercial sector [05:36] TR News Channel 5 agrees second payout in a year over Cant Pay? 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Americans trust in news continues to decline, says new survey https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/americans-trust-in-news-continues-to-decline-says-new-survey/ [05:37] TR Bot Americans' trust in news falling: new survey [05:38] TR News Certified Qt Safe Renderer 2.0 is released https://www.qt.io/blog/certified-qt-safe-renderer-2.0-is-released [05:38] TR Bot Certified Qt Safe Renderer 2.0 is released [05:39] TR News Make systemd better for Podman with Quadlet https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/quadlet-podman [05:39] TR Bot Make systemd better for Podman with Quadlet | Enable Sysadmin [05:40] TR News How to use new container events and auditing features in Podman 4.4 https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/podman-container-events-auditing [05:40] TR Bot How to use new container events and auditing features in Podman 4.4 | Enable Sysadmin [05:43] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/17/23604906/microsoft-bing-ai-chat-limits-conversations [05:43] TR Bot Microsoft limits Bing chat to five replies to stop the AI from getting real weird - The Verge [05:43] DaemonFC LOL [05:43] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [05:43] schestowitz[TR] haha, it's expensive to run [05:44] schestowitz[TR] and no business model [05:44] schestowitz[TR] other than chaff/ads/spam [05:44] schestowitz[TR] like they did this month when layoffs were raging [05:44] schestowitz[TR] linked, azure, github [05:44] schestowitz[TR] layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs... [05:44] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI STFU STFU STFU! [05:45] schestowitz[TR] so much hype for fuckign CHATBOTS [05:45] DaemonFC No more than 50 questions per day. Or 5 in a session. [05:45] schestowitz[TR] like it's the best thing since sliced bread and METAVERSE (VR) [05:45] DaemonFC They have to wipe it after 5 so that it doesn't fall apart. [05:45] schestowitz[TR] andf you need to log in and you give them evertything you type [05:46] schestowitz[TR] privacy nightmare [05:47] TR News Voice of Democracy seeks way to restore broadcast license https://www.rfa.org/english/news/cambodia/vod-reinstate-02172023163743.html [05:47] TR Bot Voice of Democracy seeks way to restore broadcast license Radio Free Asia [05:48] DaemonFC "Microsoft warned earlier this week that these longer chat sessions, with 15 or more questions, could make Bing become repetitive or be prompted / provoked to give responses that are not necessarily helpful or in line with our designed tone. Wiping a conversation after just five questions means the model wont get confused, says Microsoft." [05:49] DaemonFC "Microsoft is still working to improve Bings tone, but its not immediately clear how long these limits will last. As we continue to get feedback, we will explore expanding the caps on chat sessions, says Microsoft, so this appears to be a limited cap for now." [05:49] DaemonFC LOL [05:49] DaemonFC They'll never fix it and the media and Microsoft will just reach a point where they don't talk about it again. [05:49] DaemonFC "Bings chat function continues to see improvements on a daily basis, with technical issues being addressed and larger weekly drops of fixes to improve search and answers. Microsoft said earlier this week that it didnt fully envision people using its chat interface for social entertainment or as a tool for more general discovery of the world." [05:49] DaemonFC Oh sure. [05:50] DaemonFC Two weeks later, I'm still on the "wait list". [05:50] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Now it tells me.... [05:50] DaemonFC To get off the Wait List, download Microsoft Edge. [05:51] DaemonFC I wonder if I can fool it with an Edge UA. [05:51] TR News Defending against HEY HI Lobbyists https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/02/defending-against-ai-lobbyists.html [05:51] TR Bot against AI Lobbyists - Schneier on Security [05:52] TR News Replace/remove ProprietaryJunk from SAP https://www.suse.com/c/ransomware-attacks-part-4-sap-applications/ [05:52] TR Bot to protect your SAP applications from Ransomware attacks | SUSE Communities [05:53] schestowitz[TR] To get off the Wait List, download Microsoft Edge. [05:53] schestowitz[TR] what next, sextortion? [05:53] schestowitz[TR] "to talk to shitGPT some more, upload a dick pic" [05:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Yeah, UA for Edge 110 works. [05:56] *schestowitz-pi has quit (connection closed) [05:56] *techrights[sec] has quit (connection closed) ● Feb 18 [06:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [06:01] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], I got it to say Microsoft harms society. [06:01] DaemonFC Want a screenshot? [06:02] DaemonFC https://i.postimg.cc/X463HTjT/Screenshot-from-2023-02-18-00-00-56.png [06:03] *schestowitz-pi (~pi@rbnv8qskr8rgw.irc) has joined #techrights [06:04] *tokwe (~tokwe@rbnv8qskr8rgw.irc) has joined #techrights [06:07] *tokwe has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:08] *techrights[sec] (~tokwe@rbnv8qskr8rgw.irc) has joined #techrights [06:11] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: yes, thanks [06:12] DaemonFC You can access it by spoofing your browser's user agent to say it's Edge. [06:12] DaemonFC Including on Firefox. [06:12] DaemonFC It's not very useful. [06:13] DaemonFC The results are crap and they're mainly using it to get Edge on people's computers. [06:13] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: the second one is very saniitised [06:13] schestowitz[TR] the first screenshot is mostly plagiarised [06:13] schestowitz[TR] just some panguage model parsing an existing page or pages [06:13] schestowitz[TR] and gets things wrong [06:13] schestowitz[TR] better to: [06:13] schestowitz[TR] link to the F* page [06:13] schestowitz[TR] instead of trying to guess [06:14] schestowitz[TR] Edge is a password stealer [06:14] schestowitz[TR] so they use vapourware and hype to entice people to [06:14] schestowitz[TR] -enter personal info [06:14] schestowitz[TR] that microsoft then "owns" [06:14] schestowitz[TR] as per the eula [06:14] schestowitz[TR] -get brainwashed [06:14] schestowitz[TR] -hand over lots of passwords [06:14] schestowitz[TR] NSA <3 Edge [06:15] DaemonFC Edge is already on every Windows system. [06:15] DaemonFC But few people use it even there. [06:15] schestowitz[TR] "microsoft harms society"... 50% for reasons to do with technobabble HEY HI [06:15] schestowitz[TR] not even with substance [06:15] schestowitz[TR] and self-censored BS [06:16] schestowitz[TR] this is a propaganda model, not an alternative to a search engine [06:16] DaemonFC It refuses to criticize Windows. [06:16] DaemonFC It just says it's not comfortable continuing that conversation and it's still learning. [06:16] schestowitz[TR] it says: LEARN MORE: MICROSOFT REDDIT.COM [06:16] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft--sponsored censorship machine as a source [06:16] schestowitz[TR] about Techrights [06:16] schestowitz[TR] which is gags, suppresses etc. [06:17] schestowitz[TR] aaaanyway, truly rubbish "product" [06:17] schestowitz[TR] way to distrtact the shareholders [06:17] schestowitz[TR] as the core business dies off [06:17] schestowitz[TR] including "the clown" (azure) [06:18] schestowitz[TR] based on the screenshot, microsoft now has a section for "CHAT" [06:18] schestowitz[TR] now "SEARCHG" [06:18] schestowitz[TR] and yet the media conflates the two [06:18] schestowitz[TR] and insinuates one replaces the other [06:18] schestowitz[TR] that's BS [06:18] schestowitz[TR] wolfram tried to pull this off more than a decade ago [06:18] schestowitz[TR] it went nowhere [06:18] schestowitz[TR] so now they issue more vapourware mentioning woldframd and this microsoft gimmick [06:18] schestowitz[TR] to squeeze one brand to hype another [06:19] TR News (NEW): More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.gmi [06:19] TR Bot Tux Machines More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:27] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/ [07:27] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/ ) [07:31] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:55] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [08:07] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:11] *techuser (~techuser@xxhnq53u6ui2i.irc) has joined #techrights [08:12] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [08:19] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 17, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/02/18/irc-log-170223/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/02/18/irc-log-170223/ [08:19] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 17, 2023 | Techrights [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:21] TR News "As users interact with the bot, some have reported that it can be unreliable and exhibit traits such as obstinacy, mood swings, and irritability." https://www.ghacks.net/2023/02/16/bing-is-broken-microsofts-new-ai-is-insulting-and-gaslighting-users/ [08:21] schestowitz[TR] AdmFubar: hence the hype [08:22] schestowitz[TR] if they just rolled it out without hype [08:22] schestowitz[TR] it would be a giant meh [08:22] schestowitz[TR] and nobody would touch it again [08:22] schestowitz[TR] i like cory doctorow's take on this [08:22] schestowitz[TR] as if we're meant to replace actual search and actual web pages [08:22] schestowitz[TR] with a f*ing chatbot [08:22] schestowitz[TR] no way, jose [08:23] schestowitz[TR] it did help secure the share price [08:23] schestowitz[TR] shareholders thinking this is "the future" [08:23] schestowitz[TR] while microsoft lays off so many in critical divisions [08:23] TR News One City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/one-city-builder-games-tale-shows-just-how-wide-open-the-dmca-process-is-for-abuse/ [08:23] TR Bot City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse | Techdirt [08:26] TR News MIT technology review propping up "meteverse" vapourware just days after posting a ton of spam for 'Microsoft India' and weeks after absolutely flooding the site with Microsoft's HEY HI SPAM. MIT technologyreview = MARKETING, not science!!! Sold out. Worthless! [08:27] TR News CHAT BOT is NOT search!!!!!!!! https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/02/16/1068695/chatgpt-chatbot-battle-search-microsoft-bing-google/ [08:27] TR Bot The ChatGPT-fueled battle for search is bigger than Microsoft or Google | MIT Technology Review [08:29] TR News When you have nothing meaningful to write, always fall back on HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI... OCEANS HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. WOWOWOWOWOWO! https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/02/chatgpt-introduces-subs-googles-bard-stumbles-on-launch-and-microsoft-teams-guns-for-zoom-with-ai-smarts-the-state-of-consumer-ai/ [08:29] TR Bot ChatGPT introduces subs, Google's Bard stumbles on launch and Microsoft Teams guns for ZOOM with AI smarts. The state of consumer AI - Techzim [08:32] TR News France: Lower House Starts Last Day Of Debate On Pension Reform https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/France-Lower-House-Starts-Last-Day-Of-Debate-On-Pension-Reform-20230217-0006.html [08:32] TR Bot France: Lower House Starts Last Day Of Debate On Pension Reform | News | teleSUR English [08:32] TR News The US is World's Biggest Spy Power: Wang https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/The-US-is-Worlds-Biggest-Spy-Power-Wang-20230217-0005.html [08:32] TR Bot The US is World's Biggest Spy Power: Wang | News | teleSUR English [08:34] TR News French Workers Occupy Small Towns to Reject the Pension Reform https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/French-Workers-Occupy-Small-Towns-to-Reject-the-Pension-Reform-20230216-0005.html [08:34] TR Bot NO TITLE [08:50] TR News Lenovo Eyes Job Cuts Due to Weakened PC Market https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lenovo-job-cuts-weak-pc-market [08:50] TR Bot Lenovo Eyes Job Cuts Due to Weakened PC Market | Tom's Hardware [08:51] TR News AMD's Ryzen Master Has a High Severity Vulnerability, Update Available https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amds-ryzen-master-has-a-high-severity-vulnerability-patch-available [08:51] TR Bot AMD's Ryzen Master Has a High Severity Vulnerability, Update Available | Tom's Hardware [08:53] *psydruid fully supports the demise of Lenovo and AMD [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [09:00] schestowitz[TR] whoa; some banks here now give over 4% annually to savers in interest rates [09:00] schestowitz[TR] never saw such high rates even before [09:00] schestowitz[TR] inflation in action [09:01] schestowitz[TR] borrowers must be suffering [09:01] schestowitz[TR] mortgages and all [09:01] TR News (NEW): This week in KDE: a smooth release of Plasma 5.27 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_week_in_KDE_a_smooth_release_of_Plasma_5_27.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/This_week_in_KDE_a_smooth_release_of_Plasma_5_27.gmi [09:01] TR Bot Tux Machines This week in KDE: a smooth release of Plasma 5.27 [09:02] TR News (UPDATED): More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/08/More_GPL_Violations_and_Upcoming_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_T.gmi [09:02] TR Bot Tux Machines More GPL Violations and Upcoming Free Software Foundation (FSF) Talk by Richard M. Stallman [09:02] mjg59_ Mortgage rates are where they were in 2008 [09:02] TR News (NEW): TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/TuM_Fatig_Adding_variable_tiling_width_ratio_and_gaps_to_XFCE_x.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/TuM_Fatig_Adding_variable_tiling_width_ratio_and_gaps_to_XFCE_x.gmi [09:02] TR Bot Tux Machines TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4 [09:03] mjg59_ In recent history, pre-2008 the only time they were lower was between 2002 and 2005 [09:04] mjg59_ Savings account interest rates were also ~4% in 2008 [09:04] mjg59_ So "never saw such high rates even before" is just untrue [09:06] schestowitz[TR] prove it [09:06] schestowitz[TR] 2008 did not have 4% [09:06] schestowitz[TR] 4% is this month https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa [09:06] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa ) [09:06] schestowitz[TR] 2000 you'd struggle to see 3% [09:06] mjg59_ https://www.finder.com/uk/inflation-vs-savings [09:06] TR Bot inflation rate vs savings account rates - Finder UK [09:07] schestowitz[TR] pre-'online' banking [09:07] mjg59_ "2008: 5.09%" [09:11] mjg59_ Did I prove it? 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News [09:25] TR News Workers Under Attack (and How Fear is Leveraged to Suppress Unionising, Whistleblowing, Dissent) http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/video-suepo-microsoft-layoffs/ [09:25] TR Bot Workers Under Attack (and How Fear is Leveraged to Suppress Unionising, Whistleblowing, Dissent) | Techrights [09:26] TR News Sirius Open Source Pensiongate (Sirius Financial Crisis): Company May Have Squandered/Plundered the Pensions of Many People http://techrights.org/2023/02/17/sirius-ponzi/ [09:26] TR Bot Sirius Open Source Pensiongate (Sirius Financial Crisis): Company May Have Squandered/Plundered the Pensions of Many People | Techrights [09:26] TR News Who Will Assess the Performance of the Corrupt EPO? Nobody. Its Above Scrutiny. http://techrights.org/2023/02/16/lscth-on-performance-report/ [09:26] TR Bot Who Will Assess the Performance of the Corrupt EPO? Nobody. Its Above Scrutiny. | Techrights [09:26] TR News Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives http://techrights.org/2023/02/16/microsoft-greenwashing-tactics/ [09:26] TR Bot Windows and XBOXs Greenwashing Tactics Fail to Address Real Energy and Security Issues: Why GNU/Linux and Nintendo Offer Better Alternatives | Techrights [09:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [09:28] TR News TTAB Affirms Genericness Refusal of the Color Dark Green for Medical Examination Gloves http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/02/ttab-affirms-genericness-refusal-of.html [09:28] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTAB Affirms Genericness Refusal of the Color Dark Green for Medical Examination Gloves [09:28] TR News TTAB Sustains Section 2(d) Opposition to RAMEN HOOD & Design for Asian-Themed Restaurant Services http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/02/ttab-sustains-section-2d-opposition-to.html [09:28] TR Bot The TTABlog: TTAB Sustains Section 2(d) Opposition to RAMEN HOOD & Design for Asian-Themed Restaurant Services [09:28] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: You asked me to prove my claim, I presented evidence, you didn't check your argument? [09:30] TR News (NEW): What does ChatGPT mean for the open source community http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/What_does_ChatGPT_mean_for_the_open_source_community.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/What_does_ChatGPT_mean_for_the_open_source_community.gmi [09:30] TR Bot Tux Machines What does ChatGPT mean for the open source community [09:30] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.gmi [09:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [09:30] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [09:34] TR News Milseading headline. UK cannot ratify. https://www.bristowsupc.com/news/breaking-news-upc-countdown-begins/ [09:34] TR Bot Breaking News: UPC Countdown Begins - Bristows UPC [09:34] TR News UPC is an overt violation of the law; who are they to talk about conduct? They are criminals. https://www.bristowsupc.com/news/upc-code-of-conduct-for-representatives/ [09:34] TR Bot UPC Code of Conduct for representatives - Bristows UPC [09:37] TR News Why ChatGPT Caused Microsoft Stock to Stumble Today https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/02/16/why-chatgpt-caused-microsoft-stock-to-stumble/ [09:38] TR Bot ChatGPT Caused Microsoft Stock to Stumble Today | The Motley Fool [09:39] TR News And the shares fell. This is no Gulag killer. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/16/23602335/microsoft-bing-ai-testing-learnings-response [09:39] TR Bot Microsoft says talking to Bing for too long can cause it to go off the rails - The Verge [09:40] TR News Microsoft: February updates break some Windows Server 2022 VMs https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-february-updates-break-some-windows-server-2022-vms/ [09:40] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-february-updates-break-some-windows-server-2022-vms/ ) [09:43] TR News Crackers "are deploying a new malware named 'Frebniss' on Microsoft's Internet Information Services (IIS) that stealthily executes commands sent via web requests." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-backdoor-microsoft-iis-servers-with-new-frebniis-malware/ [09:43] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-backdoor-microsoft-iis-servers-with-new-frebniis-malware/ ) [09:47] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [09:47] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [09:47] TR News (NEW): Proprietary Failures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Failures.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Failures.gmi [09:47] TR Bot Tux Machines Proprietary Failures [09:48] *Lantizia (~Lantizia@iax5ascti3hak.irc) has joined #techrights [09:48] schestowitz[TR] wb [09:48] Lantizia o/ [09:48] schestowitz[TR] how was heart fs day? [09:48] Lantizia crap [09:48] schestowitz[TR] ah [09:48] schestowitz[TR] fsf mentioned it [09:49] schestowitz[TR] in the fsf blog [09:49] Lantizia but only because it's silly running it on Valentines Day in the UK [09:49] Lantizia at least we now get to say we won't do it any other year :) [09:49] schestowitz[TR] it always insinuates geeks cannot have a love life [09:49] Lantizia which was partly why I went along with it [09:49] schestowitz[TR] and instead worship and get "hard" on code [09:49] schestowitz[TR] which i thought was belittling [09:49] Lantizia yes it does - I thought that [09:49] schestowitz[TR] or self-harming [09:50] schestowitz[TR] "oh, you poor baby, don't you have a g/f?" [09:50] schestowitz[TR] "no, i love code" [09:50] Lantizia in anglo/irish/american spheres it just doesn't work... but from what I hear on the continent they don't care about Valentines Day that much [09:51] Lantizia but still - it's a silly choice of date [09:51] schestowitz[TR] people forgot about the odf day [09:51] schestowitz[TR] for years already [09:51] Lantizia we got free pizza at least [09:51] schestowitz[TR] document freedom day or whatever [09:51] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: You didn't respond to me [09:51] Lantizia or at least it will be free if they expense me :) [09:52] schestowitz[TR] pizza is mosty wheat and water [09:52] Lantizia you're mostly water :P [09:52] mjg59_ Pizza is largely flour and water, the flour doesn't need to be wheat-based [09:52] mjg59_ Why do you keep making confident assertions that just aren't true [09:53] Lantizia this? https://www.documentfreedom.org/ [09:53] TR Bot Document Freedom Day - Home [09:53] Lantizia maybe that'll work for the first meeting of 2024 [09:53] Lantizia we're only trying to do 3 a year at this point, one at the start of the year, one in the middle, one near the end [09:54] Lantizia schestowitz[TR], I got an answer from FSFE btw on that Microsoft money question [09:54] schestowitz[TR] it was not the biggest sscandal [09:55] schestowitz[TR] it probably was not a lot of money [09:55] schestowitz[TR] they are mostly-gulag inc. funded [09:55] schestowitz[TR] biggest sponsor for over a decade [09:55] schestowitz[TR] fsf also took some gulag inc. money [09:55] schestowitz[TR] but not to the tune of top sponsor for so long and this money is not then biggest scandal [09:56] schestowitz[TR] in fact, the sponsorhip angle can distract from the bigger blunders [09:56] schestowitz[TR] but when ggreve was in charge they were trustworthy [09:56] Lantizia so you're going to throw mud elsewhere now and not even ask what their reply was? [09:56] schestowitz[TR] orgs go unhinged when founders depart [09:56] schestowitz[TR] or get mrgainalised [09:56] schestowitz[TR] see EFF [09:56] schestowitz[TR] and OSI [09:56] schestowitz[TR] OSI is a joke now [09:57] Lantizia yes that seems to be what you do... all talk and no listening :) [09:57] schestowitz[TR] Lantizia: their response would interest me [09:57] mjg59_ Are you saying ESR was a valuable part of OSI [09:57] schestowitz[TR] if you can publicly share it [09:57] Lantizia did you even think to ask them? [09:57] schestowitz[TR] iirc, you shared a screenshot [09:57] schestowitz[TR] as it was liekly private [09:57] schestowitz[TR] no, not ESR [09:57] schestowitz[TR] Perens and Phipps [09:57] schestowitz[TR] Phipps is not in the top role there anymore [09:58] mjg59_ Phipps stayed involved for a long time [09:58] schestowitz[TR] Lantizia: what have they said about microsoft funding? [09:58] mjg59_ Organisations shouldn't rely on their founders to maintain their mission [09:59] TR News Red Hat on CIO role: 4 ways to do more with less https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/cio-role-4-ways-do-more-less [09:59] TR Bot CIO role: 4 ways to do more with less | The Enterprisers Project [09:59] Lantizia basically that the sponsorship being talked was in the context of the legal conference (which makes sense as that is what the article is about) and not their general sponsorship/donor list [09:59] TR News Workplace culture: 4 key priorities for 2023 https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/workplace-culture-4-key-priorities-2023 [09:59] TR Bot Workplace culture: 4 key priorities for 2023 | The Enterprisers Project [09:59] mjg59_ You already disliked OSI while Phipps was still involved [09:59] mjg59_ So don't pretend this is down to founder involvement [09:59] schestowitz[TR] read what I wrote about thewm [09:59] schestowitz[TR] over the years ● Feb 18 [10:00] schestowitz[TR] MS-PL was one issue [10:00] schestowitz[TR] that was partly Asay's fault [10:00] schestowitz[TR] Phipps actually antagonised Microsoft back then [10:00] Lantizia so Microsoft, Ericcson, and Toyota haven't opted to be listed publicly (I think it is opt-in not opt-out, which is good) on the main FSFE donors page... but since they advertise at the legal conference anyway, it was hardly news worthy that they were sponsoring that specific event, so they thanked them [10:00] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: I got around to your [10:00] schestowitz[TR] link [10:00] Lantizia which seems fine to me!? [10:00] schestowitz[TR] was on mumble with my dad (on holiday atm) [10:00] Lantizia no mystery, no conspiracy... [10:01] schestowitz[TR] so cash isa had high rates before, but you could only add 6500 per person (iirc) per year [10:01] schestowitz[TR] Lantizia: let me check is that's true [10:01] Lantizia well I said I'd get back to you, done that [10:02] Lantizia I don't like not keeping to my word [10:02] Lantizia but I think I'm done here :) my head may explode otherwise [10:02] schestowitz[TR] ffii and others poke about that Microsoft funding [10:02] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: Where does that page mention ISAs? [10:04] schestowitz[TR] Lantizia: yes, that's what it was: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/fsfe-microsoft.jpg [10:04] schestowitz[TR] but as I said earlier, for a good reason, it's not the thing I'd focus on if criticising fsfe [10:05] schestowitz[TR] it was never a big blunder [10:05] Lantizia not sure why you keep sourcing the screenshot... it hasn't changed... https://fsfe.org/news/2020/news-20200415-01.en.html [10:05] TR Bot Free Software Legal and Licensing Workshop 2020 cancelled due to COVID-19 outbreak - FSFE [10:05] schestowitz[TR] it happened AFTER they had done somethings [10:05] schestowitz[TR] |*some thingg [10:05] schestowitz[TR] inc. months earlier [10:05] schestowitz[TR] against fsf [10:05] schestowitz[TR] they are after the fsf's money [10:05] schestowitz[TR] and johns complained about them [10:05] schestowitz[TR] imposters [10:06] schestowitz[TR] I think we may need to make a wiki page for fsfe [10:06] schestowitz[TR] and enumerate the issues [10:07] TR News Soft skills: How well-rounded IT pros can push your business forward https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/2/soft-skills-push-your-business-forward [10:07] TR Bot Soft skills: How well-rounded IT pros can push your business forward | The Enterprisers Project [10:08] TR News Nope, the UK cannot ratify it. So it remains illegal. http://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2023/20230217.html [10:08] TR Bot EPO - The Unitary Patent is to become a reality [10:08] mjg59_ I'm not aware of any of the complaints about FSFE involving an attempt to redirect FSF sponsorship [10:09] schestowitz[TR] the FSF did not say this publicly [10:10] Lantizia schestowitz[TR], just use wikipedia [10:11] Lantizia if its true, relevant, and you can cite your sources... it should stick [10:11] TR News "Here a couple of patches I wrote to enable those two features for Xfwm4" https://www.tumfatig.net/2023/adding-variable-tiling-width-ratio-and-gaps-to-xfce-xfwm4/ | Source: TuMFatig [10:11] TR Bot TuM'Fatig - Adding variable tiling width ratio and gaps to XFCE xfwm4 [10:11] Lantizia if it isn't - then it isn't worth saying [10:11] schestowitz[TR] Lantizia: no, they manipulate wikipedia [10:11] schestowitz[TR] that's another scandal actually [10:11] Lantizia "they" :P [10:11] schestowitz[TR] how they make wikipedia their marketing page [10:11] Lantizia bye bye now :P [10:11] schestowitz[TR] by copying from their site [10:11] *Lantizia (~Lantizia@iax5ascti3hak.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving) [10:13] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsfe-fellowship/ [10:13] TR Bot Pocock on Resigning as the FSFE Fellowships Representative | Techrights [10:14] schestowitz[TR] the fsfe page in wikipedia was candidate for deleition [10:14] schestowitz[TR] for breach of rulkes [10:14] schestowitz[TR] self-marketing [10:14] mjg59_ You just drove your source to quit [10:14] schestowitz[TR] source? [10:14] schestowitz[TR] not a source [10:15] mjg59_ Cool. What's your argument against interest rates on savings accounts in 2008 being higher than they are now? [10:15] schestowitz[TR] for small amounts 20 years ago you could not get high interest rates [10:15] schestowitz[TR] 2% was considered "OK" [10:16] schestowitz[TR] when esadvings were introduced it was about 3 [10:16] mjg59_ You're just wrong here? [10:17] mjg59_ Provide evidence [10:17] TR News "Looks like everything is made of clouds and farts now, so we cannot be out of it we need to keep up on the trend." https://x61.sh/log/2023/02/20230217T112354-nextcloud_openbsd.html | Source: GonzaloR [10:17] TR Bot 0x61 - /var/log [10:17] TR News "helloSystem is a desktop system for creators with a focus on simplicity, elegance, and usability." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/02/hellosystem-new-promising-macintosh-like-free-desktop-os.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [10:17] TR Bot helloSystem: A New, Promising Macintosh-like Free Desktop OS [10:17] mjg59_ Guess you're not going to provide evidence [10:18] TR News Remember This? https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5982 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [10:18] TR Bot This? - News - SparkFun Electronics [10:19] schestowitz[TR] the evidence is my own experience [10:19] schestowitz[TR] savers who are students [10:19] schestowitz[TR] and don't have much to "save" [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:20] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: So point at the evidence of the numbers you cite [10:20] TR News "In layman's terms, GDB lets you peek inside a program while the program is executing" https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-debug-c-programs-in-linux-using-gdb/ | Source: HowTo Forge [10:20] TR Bot How to Debug C Programs in Linux using gdb [10:20] TR News "Voice commands are a contactless, hands-free, natural way to interact with devices, equipment" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/16/instantly-understand-40-languages-with-speech-recognition-engine/ | Source: Arduino [10:20] TR Bot Instantly understand 40+ languages, with Speech Recognition Engine | Arduino Blog [10:21] TR News "The trouble arises when we treat chatbots not just as search bots" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/02/google-microsoft-search-engine-chatbots-unreliability/673081/ | Source: The Atlantic [10:21] TR Bot Bing and Google's chatbots are a disaster - The Atlantic [10:21] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: would need to open the storage area [10:21] schestowitz[TR] and would not do this for you [10:21] TR News "Turns out the Bing AI is bizarre and that is making quite the waves at the moment." https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2023/2/17/the-killing-ai/ | Source: Armin Ronacher [10:21] TR Bot I Think AI Would Kill my Wife | Armin Ronacher's Thoughts and Writings [10:22] schestowitz[TR] natwest and barclays did not offer high int. rates back then except for rich people with home and all [10:23] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: Ok so you refuse to provide evidence [10:24] TR News "Computers represent strings using bytes. Most often, we use the Unicode standard to represent characters in bytes." https://lemire.me/blog/2023/02/16/computing-the-utf-8-size-of-a-latin-1-string-quickly-avx-edition/ | Source: Daniel Lemire [10:24] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2023/02/16/computing-the-utf-8-size-of-a-latin-1-string-quickly-avx-edition/ ) [10:24] TR News "The term interoperability holds different meanings for different people." https://medcitynews.com/2023/02/3-conditions-that-must-be-met-to-make-interoperability-a-reality/ | Source: Med City News [10:24] TR Bot 3 Conditions that Must be Met to Make Interoperability a Reality - MedCity News [10:25] TR News "The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (NIBBB), a group that launches small, lightweight balloons equipped with GPS trackers, transmitters and antennas" https://www.voanews.com/a/unidentified-object-downed-by-us-may-belong-to-hobbyists/6968519.html | Source: VOA News [10:25] TR Bot Unidentified Object Downed by US Could Belong to Hobbyists [10:26] TR News "The best way to reduce it, as China has shown, is to model pollution, share data and plan controls over the vast expanse in which the smog circulates." https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/02/17/how-to-save-two-million-lives-a-year | Source: The Economist [10:26] TR Bot to save two million lives a year | The Economist [10:26] TR News "This CO2 monitor performs two functions: it shows anyone nearby the CO2 levels in the area and it uploads that data over LoRaWAN to a central hub that can track the levels across many locations. A school could, for example, put one of these CO2 monitors in every classroom." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/17/small-mkr-wan-1310-powered-device-monitors-co2-levels-in-classrooms/ | Source: Arduino [10:26] TR Bot Small, MKR WAN 1310-powered device monitors CO2 levels in classrooms | Arduino Blog [10:27] TR News "Some psychologists point to social media, whereas others blame school shootings; others chalk it up to changes in parenting. Climate-change activists say its climate change." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/02/the-tragic-mystery-of-teenage-anxiety/673076/ | Source: The Atlantic [10:27] TR Bot The Tragic Mystery of Teenage Anxiety - The Atlantic [10:28] TR News Proprietary software https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-limit-use-text-messages-two-factor-authentication-paid-subscri-rcna71305 | Source: NBC [10:28] TR Bot Twitter to limit use of text messages for two-factor authentication to paid subscribers [10:28] TR News Proprietary software failing to do basic things https://www.deccanchronicle.com/technology/in-other-news/090223/some-twitter-users-are-unable-to-post-told-theyre-over-daily-li.html | Source: Deccan Chronicle [10:28] TR Bot Some Twitter users are unable to post, told theyre over daily limit [10:29] TR News Windows TCO https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2023/02/smaller-companies-facing-cybersecurity-insurance-headwinds-equifax-executive/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [10:29] TR Bot Smaller Companies Facing Cybersecurity Insurance Headwinds: Equifax Executive Broadband Breakfast [10:29] TR News Windows TCO https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/17/cyber-security-concerns-a-threat-to-indias-national-security/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy [10:29] TR Bot Cyber Security Concerns: A threat to India's National Security - Modern Diplomacy [10:32] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: searched for natwest savings 2000/2001/2002/2003 [10:32] schestowitz[TR] not a historian [10:32] schestowitz[TR] but those e-savings accounts were not 4% [10:32] schestowitz[TR] search results are spammy [10:33] TR News "In the first case, a man was duped of Rs 71,000 when he surfed the Internet to find the number of a hospital." https://telanganatoday.com/beware-while-searching-for-phone-numbers-on-internet | Source: India [10:33] TR Bot Beware while searching for phone numbers on Internet - Telangana Today [10:34] TR News "The Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act requires the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to submit an annual report to Congress regarding HIPAA complaints" https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3863724-reported-hipaa-complaints-and-breaches-shot-up-from-2017-to-2021-hhs/ | Source: The Hill [10:34] TR Bot Reported HIPAA complaints and breaches shot up from 2017 to 2021: HHS | The Hill [10:34] TR News "The Supreme Court will meet on Friday to decide whether to review a case challenging the legality of the National Security Agencys surveillance program that hoovers up Americans internet traffic as it flows in and out of the U.S" https://cyberscoop.com/wikimedia-nsa-supreme-court-surveillance/ | Source: Scoop News Group [10:34] TR Bot wants the Supreme Court to hear case over NSA surveillance.Here's what's at stake. | CyberScoop [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [11:13] TR News Programming Wordle gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/rgu/phlog/20230217.txt [11:15] TR News CDEIKTW Wordo: BEAUS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-02-18.gmi [11:18] TR News "Load shedding has been the reality every day since the start of 2023, according to a local tracker." https://allafrica.com/stories/202302170079.html | Source: All Africa [11:18] TR Bot When Energy Crises Leave Us in the Dark, But Life Has to Go On - allAfrica.com [11:18] TR News "Few technologies defined the 20th century more than the car." https://www.economist.com/international/2023/02/16/throughout-the-rich-world-the-young-are-falling-out-of-love-with-cars | Source: The Economist [11:18] TR Bot the rich world, the young are falling out of love with cars | The Economist [11:18] TR News [Old] The War on Cars https://thewaroncars.org/about/ | [11:18] TR Bot About The War on Cars [11:18] TR News In the Western world they like to say cars mean freedom as they get you places; but what if you have to be 5 or 10 years a slave in some corporate cage just to cover the cost of car ownership of a lifetime (age 17-70)? [11:19] TR News "After pedestrian travel came automobiles (15%), buses (11%) and then bicycles (9%), according to the survey" https://yle.fi/a/74-20018549 | Source: YLE [11:19] TR Bot E-scooters more popular than taxis, but walking still rules in Helsinki | News | Yle Uutiset [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:25] schestowitz[TR] important: [11:25] schestowitz[TR] Title Topic Deadline Action [11:25] schestowitz[TR] Draft Act [11:25] schestowitz[TR] Digital Services Act implementing regulation [11:25] schestowitz[TR] Digital economy and society [11:25] schestowitz[TR] 16/03/2023 Published for feedback [11:25] TR Bot Have your say [11:28] TR News "accurately identify every order, cancellation, modification" https://reason.com/2023/02/17/the-sec-is-starting-a-massive-database-of-every-stock-trade/ | Source: Reason [11:28] TR Bot The SEC Is Starting a Massive Database of Every Stock Trade [11:28] TR News "The social media company closed its offices in New Delhi and Mumbai, leaving only one remaining office in Bengaluru" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3863457-musk-shuts-down-two-india-twitter-offices-report/ | Source: The Hill [11:28] TR Bot Musk shuts down two India Twitter offices: report | The Hill [11:28] TR News "We are at an advanced stage of finalising a plan for a second data centre in Ireland with a third party service provider" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/data-center/tiktok-planning-2-more-data-centers-in-europe-amid-data-security-concerns/98032069 | Source: India Times [11:28] TR Bot Tiktok Europe: TikTok planning 2 more data centers in Europe amid data security concerns, CIO News, ET CIO [11:29] TR News "A Broadcom spokesperson said it was common for acquisitions of this size to extend their deal deadline." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/vmware-broadcom-extend-merger-close-deadline-by-three-months/98032276 | Source: India Times [11:29] TR Bot VMware, Broadcom extend merger close deadline by three months, CIO News, ET CIO [11:29] TR News "Bao Fan, the chairman and chief executive of China Renaissance investment bank, has gone missing, the firm said Friday." https://www.dw.com/en/chinese-tech-billionaire-bao-fan-goes-missing-company/a-64737175 | Source: Deutsche Welle [11:29] TR Bot tech billionaire Bao Fan goes missing: company DW 02/17/2023 [11:29] TR News "The Chinese billionaire chairman of investment bank China Renaissance has gone missing" https://www.dawn.com/news/1737638/chinese-tech-billionaire-goes-missing-company | Source: Dawn Media [11:29] TR Bot tech billionaire goes missing: company - Business - DAWN.COM [11:30] TR News "Denying that the layoffs were done randomly, Alphabet and Google CEO Sundar Pichai had said earlier that he is deeply sorry" https://telanganatoday.com/google-india-hands-over-pink-slips-to-over-400-employees | Source: India [11:30] TR Bot Google India hands over pink slips to over 400 employees - Telangana Today [11:30] TR News "Gulag India layoffs come just a few weeks after the parent company Alphabet Inc. announced that it would sack close to 12,000 employees" https://www.outlookindia.com/business/tech-layoffs-google-india-lays-off-453-employees-across-departments-report-news-262825 | Source: Outlook India [11:30] TR Bot Google India Lays Off 453 Employees Across Departments: Report [11:31] TR News Twitter dying very rapidly https://www.outlookindia.com/business/after-mass-layoffs-at-twitter-elon-musk-shuts-two-of-three-twitter-india-offices-report--news-262849 | Source: Outlook India [11:31] TR Bot After Mass Layoffs At Twitter, Elon Musk Shuts Two Of Three Twitter India Offices: Report [11:31] TR News "Gulag has reportedly laid off 453 employees in India as part of its global move to reduce its headcount by 12,000." https://qz.com/google-lays-off-india-staff-and-twitter-shuts-offices-1850126277 | Source: Quartz [11:31] TR Bot Google lays off staff and Twitter shuts two offices in India [11:31] TR News "Alphabet Inc, the parent company of Gulag, announced the sack of 12,000 employees" https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/google-india-sacks-453-people-from-various-operations/article66518295.ece | Source: TheHinduBusinessLine [11:31] TR Bot Google India sacks 453 people from various operations - The Hindu BusinessLine [11:35] TR News "The Nexta channel, which ran via a messaging app, gained popularity as a way to share news and information in 2020 during the contested reelection of President Alexander Lukashenko" https://www.voanews.com/a/trial-begins-for-belarusian-blogger-grabbed-off-diverted-flight-/6968202.html | Source: VOA News [11:35] TR Bot Trial Begins for Belarusian Blogger Grabbed Off Diverted Flight [11:37] TR News "Daniel Ortegas regime stripped another 94 people of their Nicaraguan nationality on Wednesday." https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-02-16/ortega-strips-94-other-nicaraguans-of-their-nationality-among-them-writers-sergio-ramirez-and-gioconda-belli.html | Source: El Pas [11:37] TR Bot Ortega strips another 94 Nicaraguans of their nationality, including writers Sergio Ramirez and Gioconda Belli | International | EL PAS English Edition [11:38] TR News "CPJ senior researcher Yeganeh Rezaian knows firsthand what happens when Iranian officials gain access to personal devices." https://cpj.org/2023/02/irans-seizure-of-detained-journalists-devices-raises-fears-of-fresh-arrests-convictions/ | Source: CPJ [11:38] TR Bot Irans seizure of detained journalists devices raises fears of fresh arrests, convictions - Committee to Protect Journalists [11:45] TR News "CNN's Donie O'Sullivan speaks with a Twitch streamer who was horrified to learn her likeness was being used in 'deepfake' pornography - a tactic being used as a method of online targeted harassment." https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/02/16/deepfake-pornography-harrassment-osullivan-pkg-lead-vpx.cnn | Source: CNN [11:45] TR Bot Video: How 'deepfake' pornography victimizes women online | CNN Business [11:45] TR News "Police use of automated data analysis to prevent crime in some German states was unconstitutional" https://www.voanews.com/a/german-court-rules-police-use-of-crime-fighting-software-is-unlawful-/6965666.html | Source: VOA News [11:45] TR Bot German Court Rules Police Use of Crime-Fighting Software is Unlawful [11:51] TR News "you'll have noticed many articles on the comet with the green tail" https://opensource.com/article/23/2/open-source-planetarium | Source: OpenSource.com [11:51] TR Bot from the web browser with an open source planetarium | Opensource.com [11:52] TR News "There are several reasons to restrict an SSH user session to a particular directory, especially on web servers" https://www.tecmint.com/restrict-ssh-user-to-directory-using-chrooted-jail/ | Source: TecMint [11:52] TR Bot Restrict SSH User Access to Home Directory Using Chrooted Jail [11:53] TR News "This week has provided many openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots focusing on hardware, graphics, desktop environment and more" https://news.opensuse.org/2023/02/17/mesa-disk-xfce-up-in-tw/ | Source: OpenSUSE [11:53] TR Bot Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News [11:53] TR News "16 NextCloud apps I use everyday!" https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/16-nextcloud-apps-i-use-everyday!:2 Feed reader mentioned at 01:45 [11:53] TR Bot 16 NextCloud apps I use everyday! [11:58] TR News "DOJ takes aim at John Deere" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/doj-takes-aim-at-john-deere:e [11:58] TR Bot DOJ takes aim at John Deere [11:59] TR News "Seven States Push to Require ID for Watching Porn Online" https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=23/02/15/165245 [11:59] TR Bot Seven States Push to Require ID for Watching Porn Online - SoylentNews ● Feb 18 [12:01] TR News Won't work https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11765213/Roald-Dahls-books-REWRITTEN-remove-offensive-language-create-world-no-one-fat.html [12:01] TR Bot Roald Dahl's books REWRITTEN to remove 'offensive' language to create world where no one is 'fat' | Daily Mail Online [12:07] schestowitz[TR] good news [12:08] schestowitz[TR] former colleague making progress on the pension prove [12:08] schestowitz[TR] *probe [12:08] schestowitz[TR] not escalating a bit [12:08] schestowitz[TR] *now [12:08] schestowitz[TR] but this means no Part 3 this weekend [12:08] schestowitz[TR] need more time [12:11] TR News "The URVE Board Pi is a Single Board Computer based on the 4-core Rockchip RK3566." https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-based-sbc-features-poe-connector-and-m-2-sata-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [12:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-based-sbc-features-poe-connector-and-m-2-sata-support/ ) [12:15] TR News "the company kept pretending things were going ok" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170223.html#tFeb%2017%2023:57:42 [12:15] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 17, 2023 [12:16] TR News Is BillBC worthy of raids? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160223.html#tFeb%2016%2000:03:17 [12:16] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, February 16, 2023 [12:18] TR News "Today we've seen an update for two translation layers. Wine has development release 8.2 available" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/wine-8-2-released-and-new-steam-proton-experimental-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:18] TR Bot 8.2 rolls out along with a new Proton Experimental update | GamingOnLinux [12:18] TR News "2K sent out a press release today confirming a number of things including a new Civilization game is onthe way." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/a-new-civilization-game-is-in-development-and-xcom-designer-leaves-firaxis/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:18] TR Bot new Civilization game is in development and XCOM designer leaves Firaxis | GamingOnLinux [12:18] TR News "Zero Wing along with other shoot 'em up classics Out Zone, Twin Cobra and Truxton from Toaplan and Bitwave Games have their brand new PC releases out." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/02/all-your-base-are-belong-to-us-zero-wing-and-other-classics-hit-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:18] TR Bot Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing (and other classics) hit Steam | GamingOnLinux [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:28] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cbcfptirpkfqa.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [13:11] TR News Social distancing is the new "bunker". Keeping away, e.g. in simpler islands, is way to assure safety. [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:23] TR News "right to repair" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/more-details-on-how-tech-lobbyists-lobotomized-nys-right-to-repair-law-with-governor-kathy-hochuls-help/ | Source: Techdirt [13:23] TR Bot Details On How Tech Lobbyists Lobotomized NYs Right To Repair Law With Governor Kathy Hochuls Help | Techdirt [13:23] TR News patent https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/two-ways-us-patent-office-could-do-better-examination | Source: EFF [13:23] TR Bot Two Ways The U.S. Patent Office Could Do Better At Examination | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:24] TR News "Perhaps unsurprisingly to anyone who has been paying attention to the conversation around generative AI" https://creativecommons.org/2023/02/17/fair-use-training-generative-ai/ | Source: Creative Commons [13:24] TR Bot Fair Use: Training Generative AI - Creative Commons [13:29] TR News Anatomy Of A Fake CO2 Sensor https://hackaday.com/2023/02/18/anatomy-of-a-fake-co2-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday [13:29] TR Bot Of A Fake CO2 Sensor | Hackaday [13:29] TR News "If you are a retrocomputer fan" https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/quantum-interconnects-get-faster/ | Source: Hackaday [13:29] TR Bot Interconnects Get Faster | Hackaday [13:42] TR News Anti-Union Fanaticism https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/nikki-haley-unions-gop-2024/ | Source: The Nation [13:42] TR Bot Nikki Haley's Anti-Union Fanaticism Is Wild Even for a Republican | The Nation [13:53] TR News Murdoch lied.. intentionally... for MONEY https://truthout.org/articles/fox-news-worried-that-fact-checking-trumps-big-lie-would-hurt-ratings/ | Source: TruthOut [13:53] TR Bot Fox News Worried That Fact-Checking Trumps Big Lie Would Hurt Ratings - Truthout [13:53] TR News fossforce does meta posting a lot... but better than fossforce being inactive for 6 months like before https://fossforce.com/2023/02/top-five-reads-on-foss-force-for-week-ending-february-17-2023/ | Source: Unicorn Media [13:53] TR Bot Top Five Reads on FOSS Force for Week Ending February 17, 2023 - FOSS Force ● Feb 18 [14:02] TR News child labour https://www.commondreams.org/news/child-labor-meatpacking-packers | Source: Common Dreams [14:02] TR Bot 'Egregious': DOL Finds US Meatpacking Plants Illegally Employed 100+ Children [14:16] TR News Price-fixing cartel https://www.commondreams.org/news/warren-porter-egg-prices | Source: Common Dreams [14:16] TR Bot Warren and Porter Demand Answers From Big Egg Over 'Massive Spike' in Prices [14:16] TR News teachers https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/estate-tax-to-raise-teacher-pay | Source: Common Dreams [14:16] TR Bot Opinion | The Richest Americans Need to Be Taught This Serious Lesson About Teachers | Common Dreams [14:17] TR News sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-derailments-wall-street | Source: Common Dreams [14:17] TR Bot Echoing Workers, Sanders Says Train Derailments Stem From Wall Street Greed [14:18] *h4unt3d (~h4unt3d@itjt94x9fhigg.irc) has joined #techrights [14:18] TR News crypto https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/hackaday-podcast-206-busted-crypto-killed-the-queen-kicads-new-clothes-peer-inside-the-sol-20/ | Source: Hackaday [14:18] TR Bot Podcast 206: Busted Crypto Killed The Queen, Kicads New Clothes, Peer Inside The Sol 20 | Hackaday [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:27] TR News "Free Market" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/qa-naomi-oreskes/ | Source: The Nation [14:27] TR Bot America's Toxic Romance With the Free Market | The Nation [14:28] TR News "ilmmakers have obtained a subpoena to reveal the identities of Redditors who commented on piracy [sic]-related topics" https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-request-identities-of-reddit-users-to-aid-piracy-lawsuit-230218/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:28] TR Bot Request Identities of Reddit Users to Aid Piracy Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [14:28] TR News "In late 2020, major academic publishers Elsevier, Wiley, and American Chemical Society, filed an application to have Sci-Hub blocked" https://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-founders-high-court-creativity-fails-to-dismiss-publishers-lawsuit-230217/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:28] TR Bot Founder's High Court Creativity Fails to Dismiss Publishers' Lawsuit * TorrentFreak [14:30] TR News Social security https://truthout.org/articles/mike-pence-calls-for-privatizing-social-security-in-fox-news-interview/ | Source: TruthOut [14:30] TR Bot Mike Pence Calls for Privatizing Social Security in Fox News Interview - Truthout [14:35] TR News wage theft https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-and-warren-grill-uss-largest-grocer-on-reports-of-rampant-wage-theft/ | Source: TruthOut [14:35] TR Bot Sanders and Warren Grill USs Largest Grocer on Reports of Rampant Wage Theft - Truthout [14:36] TR News unions being busted https://truthout.org/articles/these-workers-were-fired-after-union-activity-heres-how-they-got-un-fired/ | Source: TruthOut [14:36] TR Bot These Workers Were Fired After Union Activity. Heres How They Got Un-Fired. - Truthout [14:37] TR News People being such price-fixing cartels would ba arrested in a properly-functioning market https://truthout.org/articles/warren-demands-answers-on-soaring-egg-prices-as-top-producers-profits-skyrocket/ | Source: TruthOut [14:37] TR Bot Warren Demands Answers on Soaring Egg Prices as Top Producers Profits Skyrocket - Truthout [14:37] TR News layoffs https://truthout.org/articles/disney-the-place-where-dreams-of-mass-layoffs-come-true-for-investors/ | Source: TruthOut [14:37] TR Bot Disney: The Place Where Dreams of Mass Layoffs Come True for Investors - Truthout [14:39] TR News Tatyana Usmanova https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/02/18/andrei-pivovarov-former-director-of-open-russia-was-transferred-from-a-krasnodar-jail-his-whereabouts-have-been-unknown-for-a-month | Source: Meduza [14:39] TR Bot Andrei Pivovarov, former director of Open Russia, was transferred from a Krasnodar jail. His whereabouts have been unknown for a month. Meduza [14:40] TR News No battery https://hackaday.com/2023/02/17/hack-lets-intel-macbook-run-without-a-battery/ | Source: Hackaday [14:40] TR Bot Lets Intel MacBook Run Without A Battery | Hackaday [14:41] TR News wisconsin https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/wisconsin-city-decides-its-ok-to-eavesdrop-on-private-conversations-in-its-city-hall/ | Source: Techdirt [14:41] TR Bot City Decides Its OK To Eavesdrop On Private Conversations In Its City Hall | Techdirt [14:42] TR News "a gay Chechen man detained at the Domodedovo Moscow airport after returning to Russia from the Netherlands" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/02/17/i-am-a-man-and-will-soon-get-married-gay-chechen-man-arrested-in-russia-records-patriotic-videos-likely-under-duress | Source: Meduza [14:42] TR Bot I am a man, and will soon get married: Gay Chechen man arrested in Russia records patriotic videos, likely under duress Meduza [14:42] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:44] TR News New project: "GeschTAp" - the story telling telephone. gemini://home.plueschbit.de/minilog.gmi [14:48] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:50] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] TR News Gonzalez and Taamneh cases https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/next-week-the-supreme-court-could-destroy-everything-good-about-the-internet/ | Source: Techdirt [14:54] TR Bot Week, The Supreme Court Could Destroy Everything Good About The Internet | Techdirt [14:54] TR News "Weve had no shortage of posts at Techdirt on the problems of fraud and abuse in the current DMCA takedown process" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/one-city-builder-games-tale-shows-just-how-wide-open-the-dmca-process-is-for-abuse/ | Source: Techdirt [14:54] TR Bot City Builder Games Tale Shows Just How Wide Open The DMCA Process Is For Abuse | Techdirt [14:54] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [14:55] TR News "Nearly five centuries later, the social and political considerations of Shakespeare's oeuvre continue to offer insights" https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/17/shakespeare-and-the-politics-of-the-21st-century-the-chris-hedges-report/ | Source: Scheerpost [14:55] TR Bot and the Politics of the 21st Century | The Chris Hedges Report - scheerpost.com [14:56] TR News Take away their patents https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/17/sanders-excoriates-unprecedented-greed-of-big-pharma-during-pandemic/ | Source: Scheerpost [14:56] TR Bot Excoriates 'Unprecedented' Greed of Big Pharma During Pandemic - scheerpost.com [14:56] TR News "Thanks to drug legalization, theres a new drug corridor that Kansas law enforcement is taking advantage of" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/kansas-state-police-facing-multiple-lawsuits-for-pretextual-traffic-stops/ | Source: Techdirt [14:56] TR Bot State Police Facing Multiple Lawsuits For Pretextual Traffic Stops | Techdirt [14:57] TR News "Lots of people have really strange ideas about what defamation entails." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/02/17/some-guy-thinks-a-legal-doc-websites-failure-to-report-on-his-settlement-is-somehow-defamatory/ | Source: Techdirt [14:57] TR Bot Guy Thinks A Legal Doc Websites Failure To Report On His Settlement Is Somehow Defamatory | Techdirt [14:59] *techuser (~techuser@avx4ym7peju6s.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [15:01] TR News Some Lapland filling stations fear fuel shortage https://yle.fi/a/74-20018401 [15:01] TR Bot Some Lapland filling stations fear fuel shortage | News | Yle Uutiset [15:02] TR News Minister Lintil admits WhatsApp account wasn't hacked, still denies sending Sanna Marin meme https://yle.fi/a/74-20018333 [15:02] TR Bot Minister Lintil admits WhatsApp account wasn't hacked, still denies sending Sanna Marin meme | News | Yle Uutiset [15:02] TR News Mail delays loom as Posti workers join transport strikers https://yle.fi/a/74-20018267 [15:02] TR Bot Mail delays loom as Posti workers join transport strikers | News | Yle Uutiset [15:07] TR News Chinas Top Tech Banker Is Missing? Heres What That Means https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-s-top-tech-banker-is-missing-here-s-what-that-means [15:07] TR Bot Chinas top tech banker is missing? Heres what that means | The Straits Times [15:08] TR News Vulkan 1.3.241 out, but it needs a Free software development platform, not proprietary software prison controlled by the biggest enemy, Microsoft [15:11] TR News "Patents From the confirmation of Kathi Vidal as Director of the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) to the Western District of Texass standing order attempting to break up Judge Alan Albrights monopoly on patent lawsuits..." https://www.patentprogress.org/2023/02/an-up-and-down-year-at-the-uspto/ [15:11] TR Bot An Up and Down Year at the USPTO - Patent Progress [15:12] TR News Better question: will a person who serves the people rather than oligarchs and corporations take over? Identity politics misses the point. Oligarchy (Conde Nast in this case) shifts the focus. https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/is-a-woman-ever-going-to-win-the-white-house [15:12] TR Bot Is a Woman Ever Going to Win the White House? | The New Yorker [15:15] TR News Kubuntu Focus Team Releases New Mini Desktop http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Kubuntu-Focus-Team-Releases-New-Mini-Desktop [15:15] TR Bot Kubuntu Focus Team Releases New Mini Desktop Linux Magazine [15:16] TR News Working from home attracts people from big cities to the suburbs https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html [15:16] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html ) [15:17] TR News Housing prices to fall and rents to rise: PTT https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22977-housing-prices-to-fall-and-rents-to-rise-ptt.html [15:17] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22977-housing-prices-to-fall-and-rents-to-rise-ptt.html ) [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[15:22] *Moocher5254 (~quassel@i7sfqsqsuqk4i.irc) has joined #techrights [15:23] TR News (NEW): Games: Wine 8.2 Released, All Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Games_Wine_8_2_Released_All_Your_Base_Are_Belong_to_Us_Zero_Win.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Games_Wine_8_2_Released_All_Your_Base_Are_Belong_to_Us_Zero_Win.gmi [15:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Wine 8.2 Released, All Your Base Are Belong to Us Zero Wing, and More [15:23] TR News (NEW): Proprietary Issues: Twitter, Microsoft, and Facebook http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Issues_Twitter_Microsoft_and_Facebook.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Proprietary_Issues_Twitter_Microsoft_and_Facebook.gmi [15:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Proprietary Issues: Twitter, Microsoft, and Facebook [15:25] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22122548 [15:25] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/22122548 [15:29] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino, Raspberry Pi Pico, and SparkFun http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Open_Hardware_Arduino_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_and_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Open_Hardware_Arduino_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_and_SparkFun.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware: Arduino, Raspberry Pi Pico, and SparkFun [15:30] TR News (NEW): PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/PostgreSQL_JDBC_42_5_4_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/PostgreSQL_JDBC_42_5_4_Released.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Tux Machines PostgreSQL JDBC 42.5.4 Released [15:32] TR News Deploy MongoDB in a Container, Access It Outside the Cluster - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/deploy-mongodb-in-a-container-access-it-outside-the-cluster/ Source: The New Stack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thenewstack.io/deploy-mongodb-in-a-container-access-it-outside-the-cluster/ [15:32] TR Bot Deploy MongoDB in a Container, Access It Outside the Cluster - The New Stack [15:34] TR News "The future of enterprise Linux boot processes"??? - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/17/systemd_253/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2023/02/17/systemd_253/ [15:34] TR Bot systemd 253: The future of enterprise Linux boot processes The Register [15:36] TR News git status Side Effects https://blog.trueelena.org/blog/2023/02/17-git-status-side-effects/index.html [15:36] TR Bot Valhalla's Things git status Side Effects [15:37] TR News (NEW): IBM and Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/IBM_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/IBM_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi [15:37] TR Bot Tux Machines IBM and Red Hat Leftovers [15:38] TR News LibreELEC 11.0-beta2 is out [15:44] TR News 40+ Best Open Source Android Apps https://itsfoss.com/open-source-android-apps/ [15:44] TR Bot 40+ Best Open Source Android Apps [15:45] TR News Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 https://blog.strits.dk/plasma-mobile-5-27-plamo-gear-23-01-0/ [15:45] TR Bot Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 [15:47] TR News How to install EndeavourOS Cassini Neo - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HzwZIMWS4o0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/HzwZIMWS4o0 [15:47] TR Bot How to install EndeavourOS Cassini Neo - Invidious [15:47] TR News Nobara Project 37 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wN3w-IMTFEo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/wN3w-IMTFEo [15:47] TR Bot Nobara Project 37 Quick Overview #shorts - Invidious [15:49] TR News Heroic Games Launcher https://sparkylinux.org/heroic-games-launcher/ [15:49] TR Bot Heroic Games Launcher SparkyLinux [15:52] TR News (NEW): Debian bookworm in soft freeze http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_bookworm_in_soft_freeze.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_bookworm_in_soft_freeze.gmi [15:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian bookworm in soft freeze [15:54] TR News (NEW): Gnome Console adds Overview Page to show All Open Tabs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Gnome_Console_adds_Overview_Page_to_show_All_Open_Tabs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Gnome_Console_adds_Overview_Page_to_show_All_Open_Tabs.gmi [15:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Gnome Console adds Overview Page to show All Open Tabs [15:55] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/Nearsighted-Voodoo-Priest.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/08/02/don-martin-the-nearsighted-voodoo-priest ) [15:55] TR Bot Don Martin: The Nearsighted Voodoo Priest | Mad Magazine [15:58] TR News Where is php.ini? Find the Correct PHP Configuration File https://tecadmin.net/where-is-php-ini/ [15:58] TR Bot Where is php.ini? Find the Correct PHP Configuration File TecAdmin ● Feb 18 [16:02] TR News How to Set Up Deep Learning Architecture on Ubuntu 22.04 https://www.cloudbooklet.com/how-to-set-up-deep-learning-architecture-on-ubuntu-22-04/ [16:02] TR Bot to Set Up Deep Learning Architecture on Ubuntu 22.04 - Cloudbooklet [16:04] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/07 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2023/02/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2023-07/ [16:04] TR Bot openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2023/07 Dominique a.k.a. 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[16:13] TR News Embedded Linux and Yocto training courses now available in Italian https://bootlin.com/blog/embedded-linux-and-yocto-training-courses-now-available-in-italian/ [16:13] TR Bot Linux and Yocto training courses now available in Italian - Bootlin's blog [16:14] TR News Using Type::Params Effectively https://blogs.perl.org/users/toby_inkster/2023/02/using-typeparams-effectively.html [16:14] TR Bot Type::Params Effectively | Toby Inkster [blogs.perl.org] [16:16] TR News
  • How to Remove Stacer from Ubuntu Linux

    Stacer is a free & open-source Linux system monitoring software with a beautiful GUI. The primary purpose of using this software is to get metrics data of the system to analyze its performance and resource usage. [16:16] TR Bot How to Remove Stacer from Ubuntu Linux - Linux Shout [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:20] TR News Management Priorities for Highly Turbulent Times https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2023/02/priorities-for-ceos-in-turbulent-times.html [16:20] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Management Priorities for Highly Turbulent Times [16:21] TR News Begone GTK4, Long Live The New King GTK5 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dPnhAS5_xQE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dPnhAS5_xQE [16:21] TR Bot Begone GTK4, Long Live The New King GTK5 - Invidious [16:22] TR News Adorable model trolley livens up a garden https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/02/17/adorable-model-trolley-livens-up-a-garden/ [16:22] TR Bot Adorable model trolley livens up a garden | Arduino Blog [16:26] TR News (UPDATED): Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Mesa_Disk_Encryption_Xfce_Packages_Update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Mesa_Disk_Encryption_Xfce_Packages_Update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi [16:26] TR Bot Tux Machines Mesa, Disk Encryption, Xfce Packages Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED) [16:26] TR News (NEW): Clonezilla Live 3.0.3 Disk Cloning Tool Adds Support for Multiple LUKS Devices, Linux 6.1 LTS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_3_Disk_Cloning_Tool_Adds_Support_for_Multip.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/17/Clonezilla_Live_3_0_3_Disk_Cloning_Tool_Adds_Support_for_Multip.gmi [16:26] TR Bot Tux Machines Clonezilla Live 3.0.3 Disk Cloning Tool Adds Support for Multiple LUKS Devices, Linux 6.1 LTS [16:26] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [16:26] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [16:27] TR News (NEW): VisionFive 2: A Raspberry Pi Like Moment for RISC-V http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/VisionFive_2_A_Raspberry_Pi_Like_Moment_for_RISC_V.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/VisionFive_2_A_Raspberry_Pi_Like_Moment_for_RISC_V.gmi [16:27] TR Bot Tux Machines VisionFive 2: A Raspberry Pi Like Moment for RISC-V [16:27] TR News (NEW): Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Plasma_Mobile_5_27_PlaMo_Gear_23_01_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Plasma_Mobile_5_27_PlaMo_Gear_23_01_0.gmi [16:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Plasma Mobile 5.27 + PlaMo Gear 23.01.0 [16:29] TR News 16 NextCloud apps I use every day! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MlLrcpXBB_A | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MlLrcpXBB_A [16:29] TR Bot 16 NextCloud apps I use every day! - Invidious [16:30] TR News US launches strike force to monitor tech export law violations https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/us-launches-strike-force-to-monitor-tech-export-law-violations.html [16:30] TR Bot - US launches strike force to monitor tech export law violations [16:31] TR News Framework now offers 2TB SSDs for the Steam Deck. But you'll have to do the leg work. (Deck News) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wx7He3uAFbQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Wx7He3uAFbQ [16:31] TR Bot Framework now offers 2TB SSDs for the Steam Deck. But you'll have to do the leg work. (Deck News) - Invidious [16:32] TR News mount-img asks read-only or read-write https://bkhome.org/news/202302/mount-img-asks-read-only-or-read-write.html [16:32] TR Bot mount-img asks read-only or read-write [16:32] TR News Writing Javascript without a build system https://jvns.ca/blog/2023/02/16/writing-javascript-without-a-build-system/ [16:33] TR Bot Writing Javascript without a build system [16:34] TR News How to install MariaDB on Fedora 37 https://unixcop.com/install-mariadb-fedora/ [16:34] TR Bot How to install MariaDB on Fedora 37 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [16:35] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [16:35] TR News PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.19.0, 1.18.2 and 1.17.4 Released! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1190-1182-and-1174-released-2598/ Source: PostgreSQL | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1190-1182-and-1174-released-2598/ [16:35] TR Bot PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.19.0, 1.18.2 and 1.17.4 Released! [16:41] TR News How to Install Microsoft Fonts on Linux Mint 21 or 20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-microsoft-fonts-on-linux-mint/ [16:41] TR Bot to Install Microsoft Fonts on Linux Mint 21 or 20 - LinuxCapable [16:41] TR News How to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-metasploit-framework-on-ubuntu-linux/ [16:41] TR Bot to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable [16:41] TR News How to Install Oracle Java 17 on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-17-on-ubuntu-linux/ [16:41] TR Bot to Install Oracle Java 17 on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable [16:41] TR News How to Install Jellyfin Media Server on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-jellyfin-media-server-on-ubuntu-linux/ [16:41] TR Bot to Install Jellyfin Media Server on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable [16:42] TR News Wine development release 8.2 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS https://www.wine-reviews.net/2023/02/wine-development-release-82-is-now.html [16:42] TR Bot Wine Reviews : Wine development release 8.2 is now available for Linux FreeBSD and macOS [16:45] TR News Data Quality https://xkcd.com/2739/ [16:45] TR Bot Data Quality [16:46] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [16:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [16:46] TR News (NEW): 1.3 About Screen Contest celebrating 20 years of Inkscape http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/1_3_About_Screen_Contest_celebrating_20_years_of_Inkscape.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/1_3_About_Screen_Contest_celebrating_20_years_of_Inkscape.gmi [16:46] TR Bot Tux Machines 1.3 About Screen Contest celebrating 20 years of Inkscape [16:47] TR News LibreOffice Dark Mode: Manual switch to enable/disable coming in 7.5.1 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/02/17/libreoffice-dark-mode-manual-switch-to-enable-disable-coming-in-7-5-1/ [16:47] TR Bot LibreOffice Dark Mode: Manual switch to enable/disable coming in 7.5.1 - The Document Foundation Blog [16:48] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [16:49] TR News Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for January 2023 https://internetfreedom.in/https-internetfreedom-in-digital-transparency-report-for-january-2023/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/https-internetfreedom-in-digital-transparency-report-for-january-2023/ [16:49] TR Bot Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for January 2023 [16:49] TR News Read our public brief on the draft Digital Personal Data Protection Bill, 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/read-our-public-brief-on-the-draft-digital-personal-data-protection-bill-2022/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/read-our-public-brief-on-the-draft-digital-personal-data-protection-bill-2022/ [16:49] TR Bot Read our public brief on the draft Digital Personal Data Protection Bill, 2022 [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [17:03] TR News "That is not an issue with feeds. Its an issue with feed viewers." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-feeds-are-a-dark-pattern [17:04] TR News Evangelicals & Climate Change gemini://idiomdrottning.org/evangelicals-and-climate-change [17:04] TR News Lightweight data monitoring using rrdtool gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/rrdtool-light-monitoring.gmi [17:05] TR News Introduction to nftables on Linux gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nftables.gmi [17:06] TR News [Cheatsheet] Fossil version control system gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/fossil-scm.gmi [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:21] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/funny-pictures-1-12-23-14.jpg [17:24] TR News Links 18/02/2023: Wine 8.2 Released and Celebrating 20 Years of Inkscape | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/02/18/20-years-of-inkscape/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/02/18/20-years-of-inkscape/ [17:24] TR Bot Links 18/02/2023: Wine 8.2 Released and Celebrating 20 Years of Inkscape | Techrights [17:25] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi [17:25] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [17:25] TR News (NEW): Videos: NextCloud, GTK, Nobara Project 37 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Videos_NextCloud_GTK_Nobara_Project_37.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Videos_NextCloud_GTK_Nobara_Project_37.gmi [17:25] TR Bot Tux Machines Videos: NextCloud, GTK, Nobara Project 37 [17:58] *jkl has quit (Quit: Gone.) ● Feb 18 [18:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: It might be a good idea to ban activelow. [18:01] XRevan86 The guy is the closest thing to a Nazi I've ever talked to. [18:02] MinceR yes, nazis are shockingly close to being nazis [18:03] XRevan86 MinceR: They are, aren't they? [18:03] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [18:11] morena ladies [18:12] morena how many spammy links I miss? [18:12] MinceR nobody will count that for you [18:12] MinceR if you want to know, you get to count it or to write a script that does it for you [18:14] morena ye [18:14] morena only god know how many were clicked and read [18:15] MinceR which god [18:15] morena by these 2 random users [18:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mtbzms9232f2q.irc) has joined #techrights [18:15] morena svarog [18:15] MinceR :) [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:23] morena I would like to understand that thing with that spam [18:23] morena I somehow can't get it [18:30] MinceR i don't know, but it's much nicer when it's interspersed with constant whining about it [18:35] Moocher5254 did anyone mention me? [18:39] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [18:39] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [18:39] DaemonFC I missed this. [18:39] DaemonFC Last year, KFC had to apologize because a "bot" sent a push message to people in Germany urging them to have "cheesy fried chicken" in celebration of Kristallnacht. [18:39] MinceR :) [18:39] DaemonFC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63499057 [18:39] TR Bot apologises after German Kristallnacht promotion - BBC News [18:40] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/One-Fine-Dat-at-the-Construction-Site.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/26/don-martin-one-fine-day-at-the-construction-site ) [18:40] TR Bot Don Martin: One Fine Day at The Construction Site | Mad Magazine [18:54] DaemonFC https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser/linux/-/issues/345 [18:54] TR Bot 'leaking' info about visited URLs to systemd journal (logs) - privacy concerns (#345) Issues LibreWolf / Browser / Linux GitLab [18:54] DaemonFC Uh, alrighty then... [18:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], ^ [18:57] DaemonFC Ryan Alcaraz [18:57] DaemonFC @DaemonFC [18:57] DaemonFC Today in LOL@FAILFOX, Failfox clone LibreWolf is leaking your browsing history into systemd-journald on Linux, where it gets saved into the system log. [18:57] DaemonFC Then the developer responded without reading the issue, and conflated it with some Windows problem where "hiding browser activity from the OS can look like malicious software". [18:57] DaemonFC Most people never use antivirus software on Linux because it's almost impossible to end up with a virus unless you do something really dumb. [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [19:06] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:08] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:18] morena ... beyond repair [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:58] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/M096P048.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/19/don-martin-the-indignant-husband ) [20:58] TR Bot Don Martin: The Indignant Husband | Mad Magazine [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Feb 18 [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:43] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://apina.biz/183339.mp4?mode=sfw [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/183339.mp4 ● Feb 18 [22:11] TR News Gemini Capsule on Pico W gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/pico-w.gmi [22:12] TR News More Fountain Pens gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/stug/phlog [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6genp7raa9gh8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:27] DaemonFC https://www.firstpost.com/world/uk-mulls-no-sick-leave-for-workers-in-bid-to-boost-economy-12164872.html [22:27] TR Bot UK mulls no sick leave for workers in bid to boosteconomy [22:27] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], Boost the economy. [22:27] schestowitz[TR] :L-o [22:28] schestowitz[TR] during covid? [22:28] *h4unt3d has quit (Quit: connection closed.) [22:30] DaemonFC Post-COVID! [22:30] DaemonFC Which is now, you know. [22:30] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/SCENES-WED-LIKE-TO-SEE.jpg ( https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/07/12/don-martin-still-more-fairy-tale-scenes-wed-like-to-see-rapunzel ) [22:30] TR Bot Don Martin: Still More Fairy Tale Scenes We'd Like to See (Rapunzel) | Mad Magazine [22:32] DaemonFC gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kxan.com%2Fnews%2Fnational-news%2Fman-run-over-killed-while-allegedly-trying-to-steal-catalytic-converter%2F [22:33] DaemonFC "A man was killed when he was run over by the driver of a car from which he was allegedly trying steal a catalytic converter in Southern California. [22:33] DaemonFC Just before 6 p.m. Tuesday in Palmdale, Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department deputies found a man lying on the ground near a four-by-four Ford Excursion and another smaller vehicle next to it, the department said in a press release. [22:33] DaemonFC Investigators said the driver of the Ford had been asleep in her vehicle when she awoke to the sound of a man sawing off her vehicles catalytic converter. She immediately put her car in reverse, the LASD said. [22:33] DaemonFC After she felt a bump like she ran something over, she stopped her vehicle and called 911 for help, the release said. [22:33] DaemonFC The man was taken by ambulance to a local hospital, where he was declared dead. [22:33] DaemonFC The three people, a man and two women, who accompanied the deceased man in the smaller vehicle were arrested by deputies." [22:33] DaemonFC Yeah, sawing off a catalytic converter makes a lot of noise. [22:33] DaemonFC You should go after a hybrid car. [22:34] DaemonFC The catalytic converters have more precious metals in them so they'll get you several times what a normal one would. [22:34] DaemonFC If you're going to take risks you might as well get $1,500 instead of $100. [22:35] DaemonFC https://www.mlive.com/news/2023/02/northern-michigan-man-blows-up-beaver-dam-with-explosives-floods-neighbors-properties.html [22:35] TR Bot Michigan man blows up beaver dam with explosives, floods neighbors properties - mlive.com [22:37] TR News French pension reform bill passes to Senate as tense parliament session ends https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230218-french-pension-reform-bill-passes-to-senate-as-tense-parliament-session-ends [22:37] TR Bot French pension reform bill passes to Senate as tense parliament session ends [22:37] DaemonFC "CO Liestenfeltz was able to locate the area where the dam was destroyed and found several .308 rifle casings which were recovered as evidence. The officer also noticed the water level had dropped dramatically resulting in there being less water upstream and more downstream where it eventually leveled out. [22:37] DaemonFC CO Liestenfeltz was then able to make contact with the property owner, who admitted to using a large block of Tannerite to blow up the dam. The suspect allegedly said they did not think about what would happen as quickly as it did when the dam was removed. [22:37] DaemonFC The rifle used to shoot the Tannerite was also seized as evidence. The Montmorency County Prosecutors Office will now decided if a charge of removing a beaver dam without a permit will be formally filed against the suspect." [22:38] DaemonFC To be fair, the beavers didn't get a permit to build it. [22:38] TR News Two weeks, alive under rubble https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20230218-turkey-syria-death-toll-tops-45-000-three-found-alive-13-days-after-quakes [22:38] TR Bot Turkey-Syria death toll tops 45,000; three found alive 13 days after quakes [22:39] DaemonFC He should have recovered his own shell casings and not answered the door or talked to the cop. [22:39] DaemonFC They'd never have been able to prove anything. [22:41] schestowitz[TR] immibis: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20230217-french-court-convicts-far-right-militants-over-macron-assassination-plot [22:41] TR Bot French court convicts far-right militants over Macron assassination plot [22:41] schestowitz[TR] your concerns noted and shared [22:41] DaemonFC https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/seven-states-push-to-require-id-for-watching-porn-online/ [22:41] TR Bot Seven states push to require ID for watching porn online | Ars Technica [22:42] DaemonFC VPN [22:42] TR News SMILE: Progress and collapse gemini://oberdada.pollux.casa/gemlog/2023-02-18_smile.gmi [22:42] MinceR indeed [22:42] DaemonFC But not every state agrees that rushing to require age verification is the best solution. Today, a South Dakota committee voted to defer voting on its age verification bill until the last day of the legislative session. The bills sponsor, Republican Jessica Castleberry, seemingly failed to persuade the committee of the urgency of passing the law, saying at the hearing that "this is not your daddy's Playboy. Extreme, degrading, and violen [22:42] DaemonFC t pornography is only one click away from our children." She told Ars that the bill was not passed because some state lawmakers were too easily swayed by powerful lobbyists. [22:43] DaemonFC Oh no, not the children! [22:43] DaemonFC There's no evidence that children seeing porn is more of a problem now than it was 25 years ago. [22:44] TR News Tesla lies reprinted by Engadget. How about check the facts instead of parroting? https://www.engadget.com/tesla-denies-firing-new-york-workers-retaliation-union-activity-060322521.html [22:44] TR Bot denies firing New York workers in retaliation for union activity | Engadget [22:45] TR News SEC charges Terraform Labs over alleged 'multi-biillion dollar' crypto fraud https://www.engadget.com/sec-charges-terraform-and-ceo-with-fraud-145347680.html [22:45] TR Bot charges Terraform Labs over alleged 'multi-biillion dollar' crypto fraud | Engadget [22:48] Sompi the 486 server is now migrated to ST-DOS, so now its operating system is 100% written by myself [22:48] schestowitz[TR] oh [22:48] schestowitz[TR] from scratch? [22:48] schestowitz[TR] or integrated? [22:49] Sompi http://486servu.dy.fi [22:49] TR Bot Samin 486-palvelin [22:49] TR News Internal review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents Alzheimers research, colleagues allege https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/internal-review-found-falsified-data-in-stanford-presidents-alzheimers-research-colleagues-allege/ [22:49] TR Bot Review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents research, colleagues allege [22:49] Sompi I wrote the DOS kernel, and the TCP/IP stack, and the multitasking system on top of the DOS kernel [22:50] TR News Stanford president criticizes Daily report on alleged research falsification as replete with falsehoods https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/stanford-president-criticizes-daily-report-on-alleged-research-falsification-as-replete-with-falsehoods/ [22:50] TR Bot Stanford president criticizes Daily report on alleged falsification [22:51] DaemonFC https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/17/ohio-rail-disaster-biden-officials-00083461 [22:51] TR Bot officials weighing civil penalties in Ohio's toxic rail disaster - POLITICO [22:52] TR News NOPE: Josh Hawley's Social Control Media Ban Will Make Kids More Depressed https://reason.com/2023/02/16/josh-hawley-social-media-ban-ages-16-facebook-instagram-twitter-youtube/ [22:52] TR Bot Josh Hawley's Social Media Ban Will Make Kids More Depressed [22:52] DaemonFC Pete Buttfuck didn't respond to the chemical bomb train for over a week. [22:52] TR News Review: Mastodon Decentralizes Social Media https://reason.com/2023/02/17/review-mastodon-decentralizes-social-media/ [22:52] TR Bot Review: Mastodon Decentralizes Social Media [22:53] schestowitz[TR] holding companies accountable sends the "wrong message" to companies [22:54] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:54] DaemonFC I heard that most porn sites are ignoring the Louisiana age verification law. [22:54] DaemonFC Pornhub is the only one complying with it, and a VPN gets around it. [22:54] schestowitz[TR] Louisiana: the internet is forr pr0n [22:55] DaemonFC 7 more states are considering the same law. [22:55] DaemonFC This is unfortunate. [22:55] TR News Migrant hotels in NYC killing business, causing layoffs: merchants https://nypost.com/2023/02/18/nyc-business-owners-say-migrant-shelters-are-killing-sales/ [22:55] TR Bot NYC business owners say migrant shelters are killing sales [22:56] DaemonFC It's like they have no idea what a VPN or Tor are. [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Feb 18 [23:02] TR News Chatbots are NOT search engines can CANNOT replace search engines. The media should quit lying for Microsoft. Yes, Microsoft is giving up on search. It lost. It lays off the staff, too. THAT's the actual news. [23:02] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/ohio-train-derailment-chernobyl.html [23:02] TR Bot Chernobyl 2.0? Ohio Train Derailment Spurs Wild Speculation. - The New York Times [23:03] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR], "Chat with Bing" is totally useless. [23:03] DaemonFC Lost interest immediately. [23:03] schestowitz[TR] as I said at the start [23:03] schestowitz[TR] and doctorow later said the same [23:03] schestowitz[TR] you want relevant pages [23:03] schestowitz[TR] not a chatbot [23:03] DaemonFC https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/18/how-to-keep-twitter-secure-two-factor/ [23:03] TR Bot to keep your Twitter secure without giving Elon Musk any money TechCrunch [23:04] DaemonFC LOL [23:04] Sompi Google's search results also now always include some AI-generated answers to questions that I didn't asks, and the answers are always wrong because the AI does not understand contexts. :/ [23:04] Sompi ask* [23:04] MinceR sounds like the next step in search engines getting worse and worse is finally here :> [23:06] TR News V Shell GNOME Extension Lets You Fine-Tune the Shell UX - OMG! Linux https://www.omglinux.com/v-shell-gnome-extension-is-impressive/ Source: OMG! Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.omglinux.com/v-shell-gnome-extension-is-impressive/ [23:06] TR Bot V Shell GNOME Extension Lets You Fine-Tune the Shell UX - OMG! Linux [23:06] DaemonFC I don't see those because I don't use Google directly. [23:08] MinceR uninstalling gnome finetunes the shell "UX" better [23:09] TR News (NEW): Linux Mastodon App Tokodon Gets Big Update http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Linux_Mastodon_App_Tokodon_Gets_Big_Update.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Linux_Mastodon_App_Tokodon_Gets_Big_Update.gmi [23:09] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Mastodon App Tokodon Gets Big Update [23:09] schestowitz[TR] https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/18/how-to-keep-twitter-secure-two-factor/ [23:10] schestowitz[TR] do not use it [23:10] schestowitz[TR] Twitter does realise that making 2FA a payers-only feature not only discriminates against the poor but also blows cover/anonymity (banks) in places where this means life or death... [23:10] DaemonFC You can still use 2FA, but only with authenticator programs. [23:11] DaemonFC My guess is that he's trying to cut the expense of sending a bunch of texts. [23:11] TR News Article or SPONSORED SPAM???? https://www.computing.co.uk/sponsored/4073391/secure-hybrid-environment-microsoft-server-2022 [23:11] TR Bot Secure your hybrid working environment with Microsoft Server 2022 [23:12] TR News Many news sites became FORMER news sites [23:12] immibis always have been [23:12] TR News No, GNU/Linux does NOT need PowerShell! https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/tutorial/How-and-why-PowerShell-Linux-commands-differ-from-Windows [23:12] TR Bot and why PowerShell Linux commands differ from Windows | TechTarget [23:13] immibis DaemonFC: It's a problem for people who don't want children to have any idea what genitals do, or how to recognize they're being raped [23:13] immibis linux powershell is python [23:14] TR News Targeting bad passwords? Unpatched packages? Or "Linux"? https://www.makeuseof.com/new-mirai-malware-variant-targets-iot-devices-and-linux-servers/ [23:14] TR Bot New Mirai Malware Variant Targets IoT Devices and Linux Servers [23:15] TR News How to Test APIs and Web Apps From the Linux Terminal With HTTPie https://www.makeuseof.com/test-apis-and-web-apps-from-linux-terminal-with-httpie/ [23:15] TR Bot How to Test APIs and Web Apps From the Linux Terminal With HTTPie [23:16] DaemonFC Sex is like smoking cigarettes or something. [23:16] DaemonFC You enjoy it for a few minutes and then it's gone and you want another one. [23:17] DaemonFC Most vices don't being any satisfaction that goes on for very long. [23:17] TR News Get the dimensions of image using the terminal in Linux https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/337 [23:17] TR Bot Get the dimensions of image using the terminal in Linux, Linux Terminal [23:18] techuser Can sex robots fix the issue? And what is the reason for people to have sex with another individual instead of to masturbate? [23:19] DaemonFC Well, some of the differences are positive and some are negative. [23:19] DaemonFC Ideally it's a social experience, and it's different. The downsides are it can backfire and be socially awkward, or the person can turn out to be dangerous, or you could get a disease or get someone pregnant. [23:19] TR News fudzilla seems to be dying. hardly any new stories. [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-02-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] DaemonFC Many people just go bar hopping and that leads to issues. [23:20] DaemonFC Or an app. [23:20] DaemonFC It's an incorrect strategy. [23:20] DaemonFC You typically don't meet anything good on an app. [23:21] DaemonFC It's like opening a portal to Hell. [23:22] DaemonFC Every physical senation is sort of like that. Pain can be very bad, but it's mostly "in the moment". [23:22] DaemonFC Later you just note how bad you remember it being, but you don't actually feel the pain again just by thinking about it. [23:22] TR News "EP grant numbers for 2022 are down to 81.762, another 24.8% decrease." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/ [23:22] TR Bot Quality at the EPO One Modest and one Serious Proposal - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:23] TR News "Another, separate comment. You mentioned artificial intelligence. It goes without saying that the management of the EPO is interested in artificial intelligence, if is very fashionable at the moment." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/ [23:23] DaemonFC Sex works like that, hopefully not pain, but you sort of notate whether you liked it or not but can't recall the specifics. [23:23] DaemonFC So you do it again. [23:23] DaemonFC It's sort of like a sensation amnesia. [23:24] TR News "France does not examine novelty or inventive step. Check the instructions for the examiners published at the INPI web site. If they did, they would need vastly more examiners than what they presently have." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/ [23:24] DaemonFC You do it again to remember exactly what it was like, then you forget. [23:24] DaemonFC Robots? Well, I guess that's one way to live your life. [23:25] DaemonFC MinceR, The neighbor was practicing his guitar again. [23:25] DaemonFC So I turned the Bose up and put Twilight Zone by Golden Earring on a loop. [23:25] TR News "You must be a friend of Zoobab." https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/02/14/quality-at-the-epo-one-modest-and-one-serious-proposal/#comment-41011 [23:25] TR Bot Quality at the EPO One Modest and one Serious Proposal - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:27] techuser IMHO apps are better than bars. Bars are for drinking, dating apps are for dating. [23:27] DaemonFC Not Grindr. [23:27] DaemonFC There's some real freaks of nature on Grindr. [23:27] DaemonFC When Stephen Fry recommended it I about spit out my coffee. [23:27] techuser At least can address the harassment issue. [23:27] DaemonFC Like he's on live TV recommending a gay hookup app. [23:28] DaemonFC My point is that sex with random trash is bound to be a disappointment. [23:28] DaemonFC Regardless of what you think it'll be at the time. [23:28] DaemonFC But people today are so hollow and cynical. [23:29] DaemonFC Cynical, I get that. [23:29] DaemonFC But what I can't stand are stupid people. [23:30] techuser What is the difference between "trash" and "not trash"? [23:30] DaemonFC Stupid and one-dimensional sort of go hand in hand as one-dimensional is a failure of the imagination. [23:30] DaemonFC What is the difference between "trash" and "not trash"? [23:30] DaemonFC Meh, skeevy. Fucks around. On drugs, so on. [23:30] DaemonFC Nasty cigarettes. [23:31] DaemonFC Some sort of criminal. (I mean actual criminal.) [23:32] DaemonFC When I say criminal, I mean they have court for something every month because they shirk all of their obligations and they're not even smart enough to hide their shit from the police. [23:32] DaemonFC Associating with the wrong people? You won't ever pull them up. They'll pull you down. [23:33] DaemonFC Set some standards. Say "If I can't do at least THIS well, I won't bother.". [23:33] DaemonFC I wish I had done that sooner. [23:33] DaemonFC It would have spared me some real psychos and assholes. [23:35] DaemonFC I hope the technology to replace human partners with machines that simulate the positives arrives at some point. [23:36] DaemonFC Lots of people end up in toxic and abusive relationships because of the human need to not be alone. [23:36] TR News Stress Wrnings: Be aware of your resources https://cphpost.dk/2023-02-18/opinion/stress-warnings-be-aware-of-your-resources/ [23:36] TR Bot Stress Wrnings: Be aware of your resources - The Post The Post [23:36] techuser Many humans are stupid to even use condoms, would they use more complex tech? [23:36] DaemonFC Just having some positive feedback instead of "I'm tired! I have a headache! I don't like this food you cooked me! I told you ten times to take out this trash!" [23:37] DaemonFC I mean, like nag nag nag. [23:37] DaemonFC That's the worst of it, I think. Some people just like to hear themselves complain and they trick you into a relationship, have kids with you, then you never get a moment's peace. [23:37] techuser I don't get how are sex and marriages meant to be related. Religions? Abolish them, they are harmful. [23:38] DaemonFC The government punishes people for not getting married. [23:38] DaemonFC Things like higher taxes. [23:39] DaemonFC Many humans are stupid to even use condoms, would they use more complex tech? [23:39] DaemonFC We all have things we're really bad at. [23:39] DaemonFC But yeah, most of the disasters going on go back to overpopulation. [23:39] DaemonFC People not bothering to fix a mess and handing it to their kids again. [23:40] DaemonFC I was talking to the podiatrist this morning and he mentioned nuclear power of all things and those molten salt reactors Bill Gates was talking about. [23:40] DaemonFC I mentioned a list of reasons why they're too dangerous and unreliable, and we have reactor designs that could go into use right now that are extremely safe. [23:41] techuser I know a brainwashed teenager who wants to have biological kids. [23:41] DaemonFC Gates wants molten salt because he owns a company that has patents on it. [23:41] DaemonFC He can milk the government for money regardless of if we ever get any power out of one or not. [23:41] TR News Can the Mac Mini (M2, 2023) run Linux? https://www.xda-developers.com/mac-mini-m2-2023-run-linux/ Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.xda-developers.com/mac-mini-m2-2023-run-linux/ [23:41] TR Bot Can the Mac Mini (M2, 2023) run Linux? [23:41] DaemonFC I mentioned the CANDU reactor as the one I think we should be using. [23:41] DaemonFC With a brief description of it. [23:42] DaemonFC He asked if it still used Uranium. I said, yeah but it doesn't need to be as enriched and it doesn't produce a lot of waste. It needs heavy water, but we should be able to come up with plenty of that. [23:42] DaemonFC He asked what heavy water was, so I explained deuterium oxide. [23:43] TR News Exploiting long-patched vulnerabilities that aren't even in Linux https://www.csoonline.com/article/3688570/new-mirai-botnet-variant-v3g4-targets-linux-servers-iot-devices.html [23:43] TR Bot New Mirai botnet variant V3G4 targets Linux servers, IoT devices | CSO Online [23:43] DaemonFC I actually appreciated that episode of Stargate SG-1 where they run into Space Nazis (basically) who are losing a war and need a supply of heavy water from Earth. [23:43] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [23:44] MinceR :) [23:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:44] DaemonFC Hammond realizes (thanks to O'Neill) what they are and denies it even though they lose the war and we don't get their cool toys, and his superiors are not amused by this. [23:45] DaemonFC Remember they replaced Hammond for an episode and the guy they replaced him with caused a near-catastrophe on his first day on the job. [23:46] DaemonFC They wanted someone who would take shortcuts to design new weapons and he did, and he ended up destroying an entire planet (uninhabited) and almost took Earth along with it. [23:46] DaemonFC I know a brainwashed teenager who wants to have biological kids. [23:46] DaemonFC Most people do. [23:46] DaemonFC They consider leaving kids behind as their "legacy". [23:47] DaemonFC Their legacy then ends up being constant work to feed something that says "I hate you!" every day and is being brought home by the cops. [23:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:48] MinceR overpopulation, what a legacy [23:49] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: it wasn't always like this [23:49] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: go back 100 years [23:49] schestowitz[TR] some governments suppoorted parents [23:49] schestowitz[TR] financial benefits of sorts [23:50] schestowitz[TR] and kids helped parents [23:50] MinceR here they pay people to reproduce, effectively [23:50] techuser Hope overpopulation results in eventual self-destruction. The least evil if the humans can't understand otherwise. [23:50] schestowitz[TR] in some cultures this still happens [23:50] MinceR 8 billion isn't enough, apparently [23:50] MinceR i'm with techuser [23:50] schestowitz[TR] yes, let me find you a link [23:50] schestowitz[TR] sent by email days ago [23:50] MinceR it will involve lots of suffering, but apparently that's what most humans desire [23:51] DaemonFC That's what happened with my cousins. [23:51] schestowitz[TR] https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/16/aging-populations-and-great-power-politics-the-problem-is-for-the-elites-not-the-masses/ [23:51] schestowitz[TR]

    We recently got new data showing that China?s population shrunk last year. It is now projected to see its population continue to decline through the rest of this century.

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    This is being portrayed as a disaster for China. A similar disaster has already hit Japan, South Korea, Italy and many other wealthy countries. People in these countries are having fewer kids than they did in prior decades. Unless they make up for their low birth rates with high rates of immigration, they will see declining populations, which we are supposed to believe is a terrible disaster. In fact, althoug [23:51] schestowitz[TR] h declining populations may be a problem for political leaders who want to be more important in international politics, they are not bad news for the people of a country.

    [23:51] TR Bot Populations and Great Power Politics: the Problem is for the Elites, Not the Masses - CounterPunch.org [23:51] DaemonFC They always adopt and they get problem kids that drug users abandoned or something. [23:51] DaemonFC And it's just bad blood. [23:51] MinceR or problem kids who were born human [23:51] schestowitz[TR] not a new observation btw [23:52] schestowitz[TR] but a new one, again [23:52] DaemonFC You know? You can take them away from the parents and they may never know their parents, but then they're having behavior problems, getting arrested for the same shit the parents did. [23:52] schestowitz[TR] new person = new future [23:52] DaemonFC No matter how well you try to raise them. [23:52] schestowitz[TR] new future = lifetime of labour [23:52] schestowitz[TR] labour = capital [23:52] schestowitz[TR] capital = debt [23:52] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [23:52] schestowitz[TR] so you can issue more debt off of newly-born humans [23:52] schestowitz[TR] and we know who profits from debt or where the dmoney created will go to [23:52] DaemonFC Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. All of these lead to the Dark Side of the Force. [23:52] *Now talking on #techrights [23:52] DaemonFC Yes, yes. [23:52] *ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights [23:52] *rabbipires (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [23:52] schestowitz[TR] likely offshore bank accounts of rich people [23:52] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [23:52] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [23:53] *lightbringer (~mincer@freenode/user/lightbringer) has joined #techrights [23:53] MinceR oh, no, the side where you get cool powers that do something and also get to learn spells? [23:53] *rabbipires is now known as rowbee [23:53] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [23:53] MinceR or alchemy, or whatever [23:53] DaemonFC Force lightning. [23:53] MinceR also the side where you end up if you keep using Force Slam on evildoers [23:53] DaemonFC Yeah, Palpy managed to get so good at Force Lightning that he could blast ships out of the orbit of a planet with it. [23:54] TR News Ober 90% of Phoronix articles this year are of no importance at all. [23:54] MinceR (from experience :> ) [23:54] DaemonFC That tells you something, right? [23:55] TR News a lot of phoronix is now lyrical gitlog or github log (links to Microsoft proprietary prison) [23:55] DaemonFC He could have killed Luke Skywalker quickly and he'd have been done with it. [23:55] schestowitz[TR] DaemonFC: rianne was reciting you last night [23:55] schestowitz[TR] "can you imagine having kids? because i can't" [23:55] MinceR "Your overconfidence is your weakness." [23:55] DaemonFC By taking his time to torture him, he ended up dying himself because Vader saw an opportunity. [23:55] DaemonFC "Your overconfidence is your weakness." [23:55] DaemonFC Your faith in your friends is yours! [23:55] MinceR :> [23:56] *Adran (~adran@freenode-tf0oar.j78q.vhn8.esuooj.IP) has joined #techrights [23:56] DaemonFC DaemonFC: rianne was reciting you last night [23:56] DaemonFC "can you imagine having kids? because i can't" [23:56] DaemonFC Context? [23:56] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [23:56] TR News (UPDATED): Canonical Announces General Availability of Real-Time Ubuntu Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/14/Canonical_Announces_General_Availability_of_Real_Time_Ubuntu_Ke.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/14/Canonical_Announces_General_Availability_of_Real_Time_Ubuntu_Ke.gmi [23:56] TR Bot Tux Machines Canonical Announces General Availability of Real-Time Ubuntu Kernel [23:57] schestowitz[TR] the figures from the gov here [23:57] schestowitz[TR] seems a single kid costs more than 2 adults [23:57] schestowitz[TR] effectively doubling cost of living [23:57] schestowitz[TR] for couples [23:57] schestowitz[TR] so you must work until you are quite old [23:57] schestowitz[TR] and work hard [23:58] schestowitz[TR] the latest figures say that childcare is 900 pounds a month just for childcare outside home(like, if you work), per month [23:58] schestowitz[TR] two kids, 1800 [23:58] schestowitz[TR] plus bills on top [23:59] schestowitz[TR] if it was a car, you'd say [23:59] schestowitz[TR] "ok, then sell the car" [23:59] schestowitz[TR] but kids are not a car [23:59] schestowitz[TR] many people reportedly sell their pets [23:59] MinceR kids are not as useful as a car [23:59] schestowitz[TR] surge in calls to animal charities [23:59] schestowitz[TR] as people give up the pets, cannot afford them anymore [23:59] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: and kids often means you need a car