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[00:10] matey matey: selling their houses to fucking aquaman is a meme. <- thanks
[00:10] matey /me isnt cool anymore
[00:11] matey never wasm but hey
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[00:14] DaemonFC Someone got on Walmart, hacked into some lady's account, and ordered a bunch of shit.
[00:15] DaemonFC I called Walmart and asked if there was anything shipping to my address, this was on Tuesday (after some woman from a private number called me and complained that someone was ordering things to my house).
[00:15] DaemonFC Walmart told me nothing was coming.
[00:15] DaemonFC Yesterday, I got a package, and it was an inflatable pool toy. Today I got a package, and it was a 100 pound TV stand.
[00:16] DaemonFC I keep calling to complain. The police won't take a report from me about what's going on. FedEx won't take the item back unless I pay the return shipping. Walmart the store says "Not our problem. Call Walmart.com". Walmart.com says to just keep it or donate it and that the woman who was defrauded will have to work this out with her bank, but they won't pay to have the items returned.
[00:17] DaemonFC It's pretty clear that I was never supposed to know this was going on. They figured they'd wait and snatch them off my doorstep and if the police showed up, they'd be here questioning me.
[00:18] DaemonFC DaemonFC claims democrat-run cities have failed. I say, if they have failed then why the fuck are people willing to pay $2,500 per month to move there?
[00:19] DaemonFC Once they get the green light to work from home, they move to a red state and then their boss goes "Hey, wait a minute! We're paying you a higher salary so you can deal with the bullshit cost of living in Chicago!".
[00:19] matey if they have failed then why the fuck are people willing to pay $2,500 per month to move there? <- because aquaman defaulted on the home loan
[00:20] DaemonFC "Come back here! How will we support the decision to have an army of middle managers, a $4,000 coffee machine, and office space in the Sears Tower if you're in West Virginia enjoying wide open spaces, no crime, clean air, and low rent?".
[00:20] matey loved the video
[00:23] matey presumably some parts are undergoing gentrification while others are simply becoming a shithole
[00:23] matey daemonfc: if you could live anywhere, where would you go?
[00:24] matey lets assume that an armed base on the moon is an option
[00:25] matey if you're in West Virginia enjoying <- already that does not sound like west virginia
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[00:42] Snap[$] this channel is about everything but linux
[00:42] Snap[$] LOL
[00:46] Snap[$] good to know that Motocross Madness 2 doesn't crash anymore on new wine version :>
[00:47] Snap[$] might make the game way too easy
[00:48] Snap[$] if you dont crash anymore :>
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[00:57] MinceR (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/816873.mp4
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[00:57] immibis DaemonFC: You dodged the question.
[00:59] Snap[$] mp4 is usually porn
[00:59] Snap[$] why do i keep hiting wayback machine?
[00:59] MinceR there's a porn-specific container?
● Mar 18
[01:00] Snap[$] yes mp4
[01:00] MinceR altlink_587 recommends wayback machine to get around crimeflare
[01:00] Alternative link https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/152
[01:01] MinceR is it more porn-specific than other versions of mpeg?
[01:01] Snap[$] im no porn expert
[01:02] Snap[$] mp4 is apple sinfull format
[01:02] Snap[$] container
[01:03] MinceR well, crApple is a member of the MPEG LA cartel
[01:06] Snap[$] h265 as good quality thou
[01:07] Snap[$] https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
[01:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: winehq.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease:
[01:07] TR Bot content type. Ignoring.
[01:07] Snap[$] ???
[01:07] Snap[$] my mom told me i should had installed ubuntu instead
[01:08] Snap[$] this is gona take all night :>
[01:08] DaemonFC daemonfc: if you could live anywhere, where would you go?
[01:08] DaemonFC Sorry, I went to the police station.
[01:08] DaemonFC Had them write out a report on this.
[01:09] Snap[$] your full of shit
[01:09] DaemonFC I live down the street from them.
[01:10] DaemonFC I just wanted to be on the record saying what exactly happened.
[01:10] DaemonFC In case anyone files a complaint later, so it doesn't look like all of these packages from Walmart got dumped in here and I never said anything about it.
[01:11] DaemonFC I told them that Walmart says they can't take it, Walmart.com told me to keep them or donate them or throw them away and it's between their customer and her bank, about the lady that called me from the private number, and so on.
[01:11] Snap[$] how much did you pay?
[01:11] DaemonFC Nothing.
[01:11] DaemonFC They ordered an inflatable pool toy and a TV stand.
[01:12] DaemonFC It's like maybe $160 worth of stuff.
[01:12] DaemonFC $150 TV stand and a $10 pool toy.
[01:12] Snap[$] so what prevents people just flodding the police with reports?
[01:12] DaemonFC Well, if you go down there and talk to them and ask them to give you a report number, they'll take a report.
[01:12] DaemonFC But normally they don't take reports over the phone.
[01:13] Snap[$] so its just like linux tick system
[01:13] Snap[$] ticket
[01:13] DaemonFC If they have to, they'll give you a report number.
[01:14] DaemonFC It's just that usually people don't want one unless they've suffered an insurable loss.
[01:14] DaemonFC Most likely what will happen is she'll file a chargeback with her bank, who will give her the money.
[01:14] DaemonFC So she won't care.
[01:14] DaemonFC Then the bank will take the money from Walmart.
[01:14] DaemonFC So her bank won't care.
[01:15] DaemonFC Then Walmart already told me that they locked her account and forced her to secure it.
[01:15] DaemonFC I told them they should force everyone onto 2FA in the first place because then you couldn't make your password "password123".
[01:15] DaemonFC Shitty e-commerce site. They must not really care about fraud.
[01:15] Snap[$] was that your password?
[01:16] DaemonFC I don't have a password on my Walmart account.
[01:16] DaemonFC They send me a one time code to my phone instead.
[01:16] DaemonFC It's like 8 digits and it only works for 1 minute and then it expires.
[01:16] Snap[$] so how did you get robed?
[01:16] DaemonFC And you have to generate a new one.
[01:17] DaemonFC I didn't.
[01:17] DaemonFC Someone shipped the package to me with the intent to run off with it.
[01:17] Snap[$] but you got the package?
[01:17] DaemonFC Yeah.
[01:17] DaemonFC What was I supposed to do? Leave it out there so they'd succeed and do it again?
[01:18] Snap[$] so how the the rober got your 8 digit code?
[01:18] DaemonFC They didn't.
[01:18] DaemonFC They got my name and address and put it on her account.
[01:18] DaemonFC Then they placed an order with her account and shipped it to me.
[01:19] DaemonFC I think Walmart did manage to stop one of the items.
[01:19] Snap[$] so she validate the purchase with her 8 digit code?
[01:19] DaemonFC Because she told me there were three items.
[01:19] DaemonFC I just don't remember what the next one is supposed to be.
[01:19] DaemonFC Snap[$], Probably she uses an iPhone and couldn't spell 2FA.
[01:20] DaemonFC That is how The Fappening happened.
[01:20] Snap[$] so iphones are less secure?
[01:20] DaemonFC They have a really shitty security mechanism.
[01:20] DaemonFC The only software allowed to run is from the App Store.
[01:21] DaemonFC Yet, Apple doesn't have a human read the source code.
[01:21] DaemonFC So malware has made it into the App Store, and there is no defense-in-depth.
[01:21] DaemonFC So once it gets on the phone somehow (security hole or App Store) it can do whatever it wants on the phone.
[01:21] Snap[$] they have access to the source code?
[01:22] DaemonFC Usually. They run a binary through an automated system that sees if it does anything suspicious and flags it for further review.
[01:23] Snap[$] so they dont
[01:23] DaemonFC If it gets stuck in further review, often the developer doesn't hear anything from Apple for months.
[01:23] DaemonFC Then it either gets accepted or rejected.
[01:23] DaemonFC They do, but they don't want to allocate manpower to inspecting source code.
[01:23] DaemonFC So unless their smoke testing uncovers something suspicious, they usually look no further into it.
[01:24] DaemonFC Which makes it easy to slip in dormant code that does nothing while it's being tested, and then activates later, after it's in the store.
[01:26] Snap[$] friday 13?
[01:26] DaemonFC Epic really embarrassed Apple with that.
[01:27] DaemonFC They not only sneaked in dormant code that Apple missed, it was an entire competing payment system.
[01:28] DaemonFC The Play Store on Android is the official store, has had a lot of malware incidents, including banking trojans.
[01:28] DaemonFC F-Droid is operated by volunteers, open source software only. I'm not aware of any malware making it in. It also has reproducible builds.
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[01:29] Snap[$] F-Droid foesnt have Epic games :<
[01:30] Snap[$] so thats what epic fail comes from?
[01:30] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/meta-ftc-documents-subpoena
[01:30] TR Bot v. Facebook: Meta subpoenas Twitter, Snap, Reddit - Protocol
[01:31] Snap[$] meta is going to sell the data to the GOP
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[01:33] AdmFubar they will sell to the highest bidder
[01:33] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/ftc-algorithm-data-model-ai
[01:33] TR Bot order to delete AI algorithms will have consequences - Protocol
[01:33] Snap[$] to the highest bidder?
[01:34] Snap[$] to everyone that pays
[01:35] Snap[$] to the highest bidder 1st then one week later the the second highest bider and so on
[01:36] Snap[$] what ever works best to maximize profits
[01:42] Snap[$] damn apt key
[01:42] Snap[$] they trying to become apple?
[01:43] Snap[$] wine should update debian key stuff
[01:43] Snap[$] or debian should update wine package
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[02:35] AdmFubar this is just as bad as having a body image issue.... https://restofworld.org/2022/south-korea-star-ratings-trouble/
[02:35] TR Bot Delivery apps obsession with star ratings is ruining lives - Rest of World
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[03:00] AdmFubar https://threatpost.com/staff-think-conti-group-legit-employer-podcast/178903/
[03:00] TR Bot Think Conti Group Is a Legit Employer Podcast | Threatpost
[03:00] AdmFubar https://threatpost.com/russia-ransomware-payouts-avoid-sanctions/178854/
[03:00] TR Bot May Use Ransomware Payouts to Avoid Sanctions | Threatpost
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[05:58] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[05:58] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index
[05:58] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, March 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[05:58] TR Bot Bulletin Archives
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[06:02] TR News "The tool (and service) to configure and enforce resource limits is the rctl(8) command and the /etc/rc.d/rctl service. The service(8) itself is very simple and just applies resource limits that are configured in the rctl.conf(5) file which is located in /etc/rctl.conf." https://klarasystems.com/articles/controlling-resource-limits-with-rctl-in-freebsd/
[06:02] TR Bot Controlling Resource Limits with rctl in FreeBSD | Klara Inc.
[06:02] TR News "A previous series of articles followed the restoration of a SPARCstation IPX, noting how Sun UNIX workstations were a much-coveted object of geek desire" https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/restoring-a-tadpole-sparcbook-3-part-1-introduction
[06:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: rs-online.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/restoring-a-tadpole-sparcbook-3-part-1-introduction
[06:03] TR Bot Restoring a Tadpole SPARCbook 3 Part 1: Introduction
[06:03] TR News "Would you like to use Sequoia sq from your script?" https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2022/03/02/202203-sq-json-1/
[06:03] TR Bot Blog - sq JSON: first sketch
[06:04] TR News He recognized his very unique fact patterns, Marc Hankin, Berkovitzs attorney, said in an interview with The Washington Post. He found what he believes to be evidence that one or more students were seeking and receiving help actually during the exams last spring. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/17/chapman-university-professor-lawsuit-copyright-cheating/
[06:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/17/chapman-university-professor-lawsuit-copyright-cheating/
[06:04] TR Bot Chapman University professor David Berkovitz suing students for copyright infringement after finding test questions on Course Hero - The Washington Post
[06:05] TR News Ubuntu revamp its logo after 12 years Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162686
[06:05] TR Bot Ubuntu revamp its logo after 12 years | Tux Machines
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[06:06] TR News "Now, heres the caveat. This integration is very much in the early stages of development. Ive kicked the tires and found it to be far from ready for production environments." https://www.techrepublic.com/article/nextcloud-gains-rocket-chat-support-further-elevate-platform-business-heights/
[06:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/nextcloud-gains-rocket-chat-support-further-elevate-platform-business-heights/
[06:06] TR Bot gains Rocket.chat support to further elevate the platform into business heights | TechRepublic
[06:07] TR News "In delivering his judgement on Thursday afternoon, Justice Robert Beech-Jones declared the results in the three council areas void." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-17/ivote-revote-ordered-supreme-court-judgement/100917050
[06:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: abc.net.au | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-17/ivote-revote-ordered-supreme-court-judgement/100917050
[06:07] TR Bot Supreme Court orders re-vote after iVote crash in NSW local government elections - ABC News
[06:07] TR News Proprietary software https://www.innovationaus.com/three-nsw-council-election-results-scrapped-due-to-digital-voting-issues/
[06:07] TR Bot Three NSW council election results scrapped due to digital voting issues
[06:10] TR News Openwashing. "The Graph Foundation agreed [PDF] it would no longer claim specific versions of ONgDB, its Neo4j Enterprise Edition fork, are a "100 percent free and open" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/court_open_source/
[06:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/court_open_source/
[06:10] TR Bot Court says non-open 'open source' code is false advertising The Register
[06:11] TR News "The feature is powered by Azure Cognitive Services and is available for Edge users on Windows, Linux, and Mac. Android and iOS aren't included, at least for the time being." https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-edge-can-now-auto-generate-image-descriptions-improving-accessibility
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[06:11] TR Bot Microsoft Edge can now auto-generate image descriptions, improving accessibility | Windows Central
[06:12] TR News "Why it matters: Facial recognition systems solve thorny identification problems for government agencies and businesses, but they also raise concerns over bias and privacy, particularly since the U.S. lacks strong data regulations." https://www.axios.com/facial-recognition-staying-power-government-irs-10701d9f-3553-43c2-a55e-d064625c1970.html
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[06:12] TR Bot Face recognition's staying power
[06:12] TR News "In the hearing, MEPs and guest speakers will discuss the current state of GDPR implementation and enforcement in three thematic panels." https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25177/hearing-gdpr-implementation-enforcement-and-lessons-learned
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[06:12] TR Bot Hearing: GDPR implementation, enforcement and lessons learned | News | European Parliament
[06:13] TR News "35 civil society organisations, including European Digital Rights (EDRi), the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), the German Bar Association and the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ)" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/mass-surveillance-and-attack-on-encryption-civil-society-protests-against-eu-chat-control-plans/
[06:13] TR Bot Mass surveillance and attack on encryption: Civil society protests against EU chat control plans Patrick Breyer
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[06:24] darwin why does Mozilla have to lie about the term 'refresh Firefox,' (and previously probably 'refresh Thunderbird') when that's not what it means, but that it's going to erase user's entire profile? Often (since most not technically-inclined) it took them extreme difficulty or they had a technician friend setup, then what Mozilla lies about wastes all those people's time...
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[06:27] CrystalMath there's an interesting paradox there
[06:27] CrystalMath the programs that have a builtin option to clear the entire configuration are always the ones that need it the least
[06:31] matey mozilla needs to refresh the entire organisation
[06:31] matey i think google set a $upercookie
[06:31] matey but thats no surprise-- google invented the supercookie
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[06:44] TR News Lies from Russian media https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/598707-national-guard-refutes-russian-state-media-claims-that-tennessee
[06:44] TR Bot Guard refutes Russian media claims that Tennessee guardsmen killed in Ukraine | TheHill
[06:45] TR News "information-war" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/17/countering-russian-propaganda-efforts-ukraine/
[06:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/17/countering-russian-propaganda-efforts-ukraine/
[06:45] TR Bot The many ways people counter Russian propaganda - The Washington Post
[06:45] TR News https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-digital-ministry-war/
[06:45] TR Bot Digital Ministry Is a Formidable War Machine | WIRED
[06:45] TR News state in a smartphone https://www.wired.com/story/ukraine-digital-ministry-war/
[06:46] TR News What next? Doxing? https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/19/russian-propagandists-turn-on-pro-western-traitors
[06:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/19/russian-propagandists-turn-on-pro-western-traitors
[06:46] TR Bot propagandists turn on pro-Western traitors | The Economist
[06:46] TR News "the information that was being spread wasn't true, and that anyone who witnesses any conflicts should immediately contact the police." https://news.err.ee/1608534097/raadio-4-editor-in-short-russian-language-media-landscape-is-in-chaos
[06:47] TR Bot Raadio 4 editor: In short, Russian-language media landscape is in chaos | News | ERR
[06:47] TR News "Volodymr Zelensky appears behind a podium, telling Ukrainians to put down their weapons." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60780142
[06:47] TR Bot Deepfake presidents used in Russia-Ukraine war - BBC News
[06:48] TR News "Conspiracy theories first surface in the right-wing swamplands and spread through social media channels." https://www.salon.com/2022/03/17/putins-invasion-of-ukraine-exposes-the-fox-news-qanon-feedback-loop/
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[06:48] TR Bot invasion of Ukraine exposes the Fox News-QAnon feedback loop | Salon.com
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[06:48] TR News "None of this rhetoric is new. For years, the Kremlin has discussed creating a domestic Russian internet" https://medium.com/dfrlab/russias-domestic-internet-talk-isn-t-new-but-it-s-ramping-up-a1fe8c24779
[06:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/dfrlab/russias-domestic-internet-talk-isn-t-new-but-it-s-ramping-up-a1fe8c24779
[06:48] TR Bot domestic internet talk isnt new but its ramping up | by @DFRLab | DFRLab | Mar, 2022 | Medium
[06:49] TR News Sanctions that backfire https://www.vice.com/en/article/epx8bw/russia-tiktok-censorship
[06:49] TR Bot TikToks Censorship in Russia Is Giving Putin Exactly What He Wants
[06:50] TR News "As has been reported, former US president Barack Obama's administration considered whether it could bring criminal charges against Assange and WikiLeaks for publishing classified information." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/australian-politicians-must-act-to-save-assange-before-it-is-too-late.html
[06:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/australian-politicians-must-act-to-save-assange-before-it-is-too-late.html
[06:50] TR Bot - Australian politicians must act to save Assange before it is too late
[06:51] TR News Social control media https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/11/tiktok-star-allegedly-shot-dead-by-brother-in-honour-killing-16256393/
[06:51] TR Bot TikTok star allegedly shot dead by brother in honour killing | Metro News
[06:53] TR News "manufacturers restrict access to the software tools needed to repair broken tractors" https://uspirg.org/feature/usp/deere-headlights Digital Restrictions (DRM)
[06:54] TR Bot Deere in the Headlights | U.S. PIRG
[06:54] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) like these should be avoided from the start. Owns what you buy, stop renting. https://www.theverge.com/22983315/netflix-password-account-sharing-test-streaming
[06:54] TR Bot Why Netflix is starting to crack down on password sharing - The Verge
[06:54] TR News Digital Restriction (DRM) shows its true cost ttps://text.npr.org/1087133199
[06:54] TR News Copyrights suppressing music creation. No winder music got so bad... https://variety.com/2022/music/news/dua-lipa-levitating-lawsuits-explained-1235204715/
[06:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/music/news/dua-lipa-levitating-lawsuits-explained-1235204715/
[06:54] TR Bot Lipa 'Levitating' Lawsuits Explained: Musicologists Weigh In - Variety
[06:55] TR News "The music industry, in little more than 20 years, has gone through two technological shocks linked to digitization" https://techxplore.com/news/2022-03-firms-music.html
[06:55] TR Bot An information shock is needed to make firms understand that music is changing
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[07:06] TR News Hosted by Microsoft GitHub = HUGE mistake. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/pro-ukraine-protestware-pushes-antiwar-ads-geo-targeted-malware/
[07:06] TR Bot Pro-Ukraine Protestware Pushes Antiwar Ads, Geo-Targeted Malware Krebs on Security
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[07:08] TR News "HB 389 was introduced by Rep. David Eastman (R-Mat-Su) and is co-sponsored by Rep. Ronald Gilham (R-Kenai/Soldotna)." https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/03/17/alaska-may-end-its-compliance-with-the-real-id-act/
[07:08] TR Bot Alaska may end its compliance with the REAL-ID Act Papers, Please!
[07:09] TR News Teaching real computing to people https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/research-report-teaching-programming/
[07:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/research-report-teaching-programming/
[07:09] TR Bot 170 research papers about teaching programming, summarised - Raspberry Pi
[07:10] TR News Corrupt WIPO thinks it 'owns' the Internet https://torrentfreak.com/wipos-pirate-site-blocklist-expands-to-4042-active-domain-names-220317 see http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
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[07:10] TR Bot Pirate Site Blocklist Expands to 4,042 Active Domain Names * TorrentFreak
[07:10] TR Bot WIPO - Techrights
[07:10] TR News 'Ringleaders'? Sounds like a suitable name for the copyright cartel's leaders. https://torrentfreak.com/two-more-ringleaders-of-torrent-site-asgaard-sentenced-in-denmark-220317/
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[07:10] TR Bot More 'Ringleaders' of Torrent Site 'Asgaard' Sentenced in Denmark * TorrentFreak
[07:14] TR News UK: Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Nearly 2 Months, Over 20,000,000 Infections http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/18/over-20000000-uk-infections/
[07:14] TR Bot Blog Archive UK: Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Nearly 2 Months, Over 20,000,000 Infections
[07:15] TR News "For years, Chinese American dissidents in New York have suspected that Chinas powerful and ubiquitous intelligence services had infiltrated their ranks and were tracking their every move." https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-charges-defendants-with-harassing-and-spying-on-chinese-americans-for-beijing
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[07:15] TR Bot DOJ Charges Defendants With Harassing and Spying On Chinese Americans for Beijing ProPublica
[07:16] TR News "social media influencers" = spammers https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/other-people-clothes-calla-henkel/
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[07:16] TR Bot Can a Thriller Capture the Feeling of Being Watched? | The Nation
[07:18] kingoffrance "why does Mozilla have to lie about the term 'refresh Firefox,' (and previously probably 'refresh Thunderbird') when that's not what it means, but that it's going to erase user's entire profile?" that sounds like they got infected by the microsoft reboot/reinstall
[07:18] kingoffrance it corrupts itself every x period, needs to be reborn periodically lol
[07:18] kingoffrance move fast and break things
[07:19] matey well it breaks things
[07:19] matey i dont think anyone can accuse mozilla anything of "moving fast"
[07:19] kingoffrance lol
[07:19] kingoffrance lee too. the tree of mozilla must be refreshed with the blood of users
[07:20] matey /me snrks
[07:20] kingoffrance it seems to be going around anyways lol
[07:20] TR News Cracking Down on Russian Oligarchs Means Cracking Down on U.S. Tax Havens https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/17/cracking-down-on-russian-oligarchs-means-cracking-down-on-u-s-tax-havens/
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[07:20] matey usually i lol, that was my first snrk online since the 1990s
[07:20] TR Bot Down on Russian Oligarchs Means Cracking Down on U.S. Tax Havens - CounterPunch.org
[07:20] matey it was a real one
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[07:21] matey the tree of mozilla should be chopped down and used as mozilla firewood
[07:23] kingoffrance if (from day or two ago) the w3c online validator disappeared...then how does anyone know they are writing standard html/css/etc. ?
[07:24] kingoffrance there is/was command-line programs i believe
[07:24] kingoffrance are they still maintained?
[07:24] kingoffrance that seems like a big story
[07:25] matey in all the years that thing has existed i thought it was a farce
[07:25] kingoffrance how so? that companies just make their "extensions" anyways and ignore it?
[07:25] kingoffrance or that noone validates 100%?
[07:26] matey probably more the latter
[07:26] matey but also the whole idea that it could be so convoluted, that people would get bragging rights just for a page that "officially" worked
[07:27] matey and most of all
[07:27] matey if a tag wasnt supported... it didnt do anything. big deal! thats whats cool about html
[07:27] matey so lets say you have a browser that only supports anchor tags
[07:28] matey okay, you dont need a fancy official thing to tell you if your anchor tags are written properly
[07:28] matey i mean lets take this outside of html for a minute
[07:28] matey imagine getting an openoffice document-- theyre entirely made of xml
[07:28] TR News Boycott Amazon https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-pans-jeff-bezos-as-amazon-workers-walk-out-over-low-pay/ https://fair.org/home/communities-should-not-pay-amazon-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/
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[07:28] TR Bot Sanders Pans Jeff Bezos as Amazon Workers Walk Out Over Low Pay
[07:29] TR Bot 'Communities Should Not Pay Amazon. It Should Be the Other Way Around.' - FAIR
[07:29] matey imagine if every openoffice document had a little badge at the bottom that said 100% valid odt!
[07:29] matey thats ridiculous. thats how i felt every time i saw a website with one of those badges
[07:29] matey without the badges i doubt id have found the validator so ridiculous
[07:30] TR News The underlying PLATFORM is NOT trustworthy. "In 2021, we announced three new Tor Board Members: Alissa Cooper, Desigan Chinniah, and Kendra Albert. We shared our plans to build a VPN like service to help mobile users connect their apps through Tor, starting with Android" https://blog.torproject.org/tor-media-2021/
[07:30] TR Bot Tor in the News, 2021 | The Tor Project
[07:30] matey the web is a complete mess anyway, the badges didnt work, it was a fad
[07:30] kingoffrance yeah, its back to user agent sniffing aka "best viewed in " badges
[07:30] matey we have that anyway
[07:30] kingoffrance covert badges, but same thing
[07:30] matey i mean tor browser pretends its from another os, why not
[07:31] matey if the badges did their job, they might make sense. first they made everything standard
[07:31] matey then they made the standard hopelessly bloated
[07:31] matey now the standard is meaningless and next to useless
[07:32] matey no gemini validator-- not needed
[07:32] matey /me considers putting 100% valid plaintext at the bottom of every text file
[07:33] matey no gemini validator <- i should hasten to add no OFFICIAL validator
[07:33] TR News Starbucks attacks society. Stop paying it anything. https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-brought-former-ceo-howard-schultz-back-to-union-bust-workers-say/
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[07:33] TR Bot Starbucks Brought Former CEO Howard Schultz Back to Union Bust, Workers Say
[07:33] matey theres probably a dozen, its a good joke
[07:34] matey kingoffrance: html was always destined to be calvinball. what are the OFFICIAL rules of calvinball?
[07:34] kingoffrance id have to look up that word
[07:35] matey you dont know calvin and hobbes?
[07:35] TR News DRM giant https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/john-deere-has-9-lawsuits-against-them:4
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[07:35] TR Bot John Deere has 9 lawsuits against them: farmers see blood in the water
[07:35] matey its basically you in newspaper comic form
[07:35] kingoffrance Calvin remarks, "Sooner or later, all our games turn into Calvinball,"
[07:35] matey hobbes is the tiger
[07:36] matey hes actually a stuffed toy but we see him more often through the mind of calvin
[07:36] TR News "enemies of all humor" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160322.html#tMar%2016%2021:18:48
[07:36] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, March 16, 2022
[07:36] TR News Julian Assange Denied Permission to Appeal US Extradition Decision at Supreme Court - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/03/15/1447213
[07:36] TR Bot Julian Assange Denied Permission to Appeal US Extradition Decision at Supreme Court - SoylentNews
[07:40] kingoffrance lol im perfectly stable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_Eye_Nebula im just old school http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=cat indestructible
[07:40] TR Bot Cat's Eye Nebula - Wikipedia
[07:40] TR Bot cat
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[07:43] TR News Maybe time to boycott Netflix and use some real service, which lets you keep what you paid for? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/17/netflix-starts-cracking-down-harder-on-password-sharing/
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[07:43] TR Bot Starts Cracking Down Harder On Password Sharing | Techdirt
[07:46] TR News Spy cities. IMHO, they should prosecute people and corporations that push this agenda. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/drawing-the-line-are-smart-cities-compatible-with-human-rights-and-privacy/
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[07:46] TR Bot Drawing the Line: Are Smart Cities Compatible with Human Rights and Privacy?
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[07:47] TR News Worse and most expensive? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/17/no-u-s-broadband-isnt-miraculously-getting-cheaper/
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[07:47] TR Bot U.S. Broadband Isnt Miraculously Getting Cheaper | Techdirt
[07:50] TR News "The EU police agency has completely restructured its information systems. German authorities are by far the main users for storage and query. Through a parliamentary question, the successor of Palantir software at Europol is now known." https://digit.site36.net/2022/03/17/information-systems-at-europol-fishing-the-data-lake-with-a-new-dragnet/
[07:50] TR Bot Information systems at Europol: Fishing the data lake with a new dragnet Matthias Monroy
[07:52] kingoffrance matey, only formalism can overcome formalism, rule of alchemy :)
[07:53] matey and only simplicity can overcome bloated nonsense
[07:54] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/irc-log-170322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/irc-log-170322/
[07:54] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 17, 2022 | Techrights
[07:54] matey validation badges on websites were like fining rocks for sliding down a mountain
[07:54] matey and here we are
[07:56] TR News " The excuse for this attack on basic human rights is the same one we have seen used repeatedly in the U.S. over the last few years: crimes against children. This is the same excuse that sponsors of the anti-encryption EARN IT Act used in 2020, and again earlier this year." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/eff-tells-eu-commission-dont-break-encryption
[07:56] TR Bot EFF Tells E.U. Commission: Don't Break Encryption | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[07:58] TR News "The various for the children moral panic bills about the internet are getting dumber." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/17/minnesota-pushing-bill-that-says-websites-can-no-longer-be-useful-for-teenagers/
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[07:58] TR Bot Pushing Bill That Says Websites Can No Longer Be Useful For Teenagers | Techdirt
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[08:01] TR News "Ridiculous, unhinged, anti-internet legislation is a bipartisan affair." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/17/california-legislators-introduce-bill-to-blame-internet-companies-for-kids-liking-their-products/
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[08:01] TR Bot Legislators Introduce Bill To Blame Internet Companies For Kids Liking Their Products | Techdirt
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[08:10] TR News Linux Candy: Emote - modern popup emoji picker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162687
[08:10] TR Bot Linux Candy: Emote - modern popup emoji picker | Tux Machines
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[08:23] TR News "Please pull the following updates for 5.18-rc1. Since 5.17, there have been a few important changes to the RNG's crypto, but the intent for 5.18 has been to shore up the existing design as much as possible with modern cryptographic functions and proven constructions" https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220317232804.931702-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/
[08:23] TR Bot [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 5.18-rc1 - Jason A. Donenfeld
[08:25] TR News Gammath SPOT version 2.5 (beta) released on 17 March 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT https://pypi.org/project/gammath-spot/2.5/
[08:25] TR Bot Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
[08:25] TR Bot gammath-spot PyPI
[08:25] TR News FreeBSD 13.1-BETA2 Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162688
[08:25] TR Bot FreeBSD 13.1-BETA2 Now Available | Tux Machines
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[08:29] kingoffrance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUj1EZwpJY someone linked that in another channel...
[08:29] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5IUj1EZwpJY
[08:29] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Only Unbreakable Law - Invidious
[08:30] kingoffrance i mean, it seems people are either "all in" or "all out"
[08:30] kingoffrance he was the guy who also did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRE7HIO3vk
[08:30] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kZRE7HIO3vk
[08:30] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Thirty Million Line Problem - Invidious
[08:32] kingoffrance none of that is directly web related ... but if you beileve "the law" it all affects it
[08:32] kingoffrance TLDR: hardware complexities (or interfaces) will manifest on top
[08:32] kingoffrance it is actually quite interesting: linux/bsd/etc. is fragmented? try hardware
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[08:35] matey patents make everything nice and complicated
[08:36] matey then we have standards as a bandage on top of those (im not implying that standards serve no other purpose)
[08:36] schestowitz-TR profitable for some
[08:36] matey but its like walking around on two severely wounded legs
[08:37] matey at least theyre bandaged
[08:37] matey the whole thing is nuts
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[08:48] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162689
[08:48] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[09:19] kingoffrance the 2nd part of first video is great ...5 volume controls lol
[09:29] kingoffrance 47:00 explains so many things...
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[10:31] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162690
[10:31] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[10:52] TR News "The addons.mozilla.org (AMO) external API has offered add-on developers the ability to submit new add-on versions for signing for a number of years, in addition to being available to get data about published add-ons directly or internally inside Firefox." https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/03/17/new-api-for-submitting-and-updating-add-ons/
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[10:52] TR Bot A new API for submitting and updating add-ons | Mozilla Add-ons Community Blog
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[12:24] TR News These are also a privacy problem https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/why-vaccine-cards-are-so-easily-forged.html
[12:24] TR Bot Vaccine Cards Are So Easily Forged - Schneier on Security
[12:26] TR News "Russia is continuing to wield internet disruptions as part of its escalating attacks on Ukraine." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
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[12:26] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Ukraine-Russia conflict - Access Now
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[12:30] bnchs so i woke up
[12:30] bnchs to a malicious npm package
[12:30] bnchs that was updated to corrupt files if the user was in russia
[12:30] bnchs or beluras
[12:30] bnchs belarus*
[12:30] bnchs node-ipc > peacenotwar
[12:31] schestowitz-TR npm is full of it
[12:31] schestowitz-TR that's Microsoft
[12:31] schestowitz-TR we need to say Microsoft NPM
[12:31] schestowitz-TR I heard they were forced to sell to Microsoft
[12:31] schestowitz-TR due to their financial condition
[12:31] schestowitz-TR and now the NSA gets to control a lot of JS "supply chain"
[12:32] bnchs https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/peacenotwar
[12:32] TR Bot - RIAEvangelist/peacenotwar
[12:32] bnchs "This code serves as a non-destructive example of why controlling your node modules is important. It also serves as a non-violent protest against Russia's aggression that threatens the world right now. This module will add a message of peace on your users' desktops, and it will only do it if it does not already exist just to be polite."
[12:32] bnchs wow okay
[12:32] bnchs this is why i don't use nodejs
[12:32] SomeH4x0r bnchs: if their IP was. Proxies.
[12:32] bnchs this is like that loveletter VBS macro
[12:32] SomeH4x0r at least it does not spread
[12:33] bnchs no it does
[12:33] SomeH4x0r I mean, from infected computers
[12:33] bnchs through dependencies
[12:33] bnchs vue.js users are affected because vue.js depends on node-ipc
[12:33] bnchs node-ipc depends on "peacenotwar"
[12:34] schestowitz-TR lol, what a cluster fsck
[12:34] TR News Games: Black Geyser, REAVER, Steam Deck, Star Traders: Frontiers, GOG Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162691
[12:34] TR Bot Games: Black Geyser, REAVER, Steam Deck, Star Traders: Frontiers, GOG | Tux Machines
[12:34] bnchs of course this is why i don't wanna touch nodejs with a 10 kilometer pole
[12:34] SomeH4x0r NO FUCK OFF WITH YOUR DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION
[12:34] schestowitz-TR "hey, Microsoft, what do you do all day?"
[12:35] schestowitz-TR Microsoft: "certainly NOT reviewing what we distribute"
[12:35] SomeH4x0r They offended me when they banned Russia and Belarus already
[12:35] bnchs also yes
[12:35] SomeH4x0r they don't care whom they cancel
[12:35] bnchs this module assumes that you have windows
[12:35] SomeH4x0r they just follow directions
[12:35] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: tehe opposition in Russia
[12:35] bnchs "var Desktops = `${homedir}/Desktop/`; var OneDrive = `${homedir}/OneDrive/`; var OneDriveDesktops = `${homedir}/OneDrive/Desktop/`;"
[12:36] schestowitz-TR I'm sure driving Putin's opposition to starvation and poverty will help
[12:36] schestowitz-TR Putin is not starving
[12:36] schestowitz-TR [21:18] SFC sounds like it is joining anti-Free software trolls now https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/
[12:36] TR Bot Copyleft Won't Solve All Problems, Just Some of Them - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[12:36] bnchs this is what happens when you abstract away software freedoms
[12:36] schestowitz-TR so now team "cancel RMS" is saying we should do more bans
[12:37] schestowitz-TR to appease a bunch of trolls
[12:37] schestowitz-TR they are not standing for ethics
[12:37] schestowitz-TR but for control
[12:37] bnchs it places a WITH-LOVE-FROM-AMERICA.txt in your desktop, onedrive and onedrive's desktop
[12:38] bnchs with NO OS CHECK, to see if it's actually windows
[12:38] bnchs just places the file to onedrive automatically
[12:38] schestowitz-TR 'one'drive=NSA
[12:39] bnchs there's warnings from everyone telling developers not to join the "cyberwar"
[12:39] bnchs they don't listen, all they do is ruin their reputation
[12:40] kingoffrance they want a world war
[12:40] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO: "Emotet is malware that infects computers by hiding in malicious emails. The malware is hidden in Microsoft Word and Excel files." https://www.maketecheasier.com/emotet-malware-emails-irs/
[12:40] TR Bot Emotet Malware Sending Emails Disguised as IRS - Make Tech Easier
[12:40] bnchs https://snyk.io/blog/peacenotwar-malicious-npm-node-ipc-package-vulnerability/
[12:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: snyk.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://snyk.io/blog/peacenotwar-malicious-npm-node-ipc-package-vulnerability/
[12:40] TR Bot Alert: peacenotwar module sabotages npm developers in the node-ipc package to protest the invasion of Ukraine | Snyk
[12:41] bnchs the node-ipc developer wrote obsfucated code in their module that overwrites all the files in the computer with a heart emoji if the geolocation of the network interface currently used returns russia
[12:41] bnchs "obsfucated" as in encoded in base64
[12:41] bnchs npm developers turned into malware devs
[12:42] schestowitz-TR haha, well...
[12:43] schestowitz-TR they work for a malware company
[12:43] schestowitz-TR microsoft
[12:43] schestowitz-TR but worry not
[12:43] schestowitz-TR the media will place blame
[12:43] schestowitz-TR it will blame "LINUX"... for GETTING malware... from Microsoft
[12:43] bnchs of course this didn't help the war at all
[12:43] bnchs it only ruined the developer's reputation
[12:43] schestowitz-TR it will blame "Software"... for GETTING deps... from Microsoft
[12:43] bnchs and the package's reputation
[12:43] schestowitz-TR Microsoft will then SAVE THE DAY
[12:43] bnchs now they say "node-ipc is a malicious package."
[12:43] schestowitz-TR Microsoft will later REMOVE the malwarew!!
[12:43] SomeH4x0r *devilopers
[12:43] schestowitz-TR "Thank you, Microsoft!"
[12:44] bnchs i bet vue.js is planning to make their own node-ipc
[12:44] bnchs because this dev is obviously unstable
[12:44] schestowitz-TR veryStableGenius();
[12:45] bnchs programmers sabotaging russians will only get their program classified as malware
[12:45] bnchs have fun spending years getting back your reputation
[12:45] TR News Its not over until its over: sanctions must stop Telenors sale to the Myanmar military - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/sanctions-telenor-sale-to-myanmar-military/
[12:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/sanctions-telenor-sale-to-myanmar-military/
[12:45] TR Bot Its not over until its over: sanctions must stop Telenors sale to the Myanmar military - Access Now
[12:50] bnchs it's actually quite funny now
[12:51] bnchs the developer (Brandon Nozaki Miller/RIAEvangelist) went on full-damage control mode
[12:51] bnchs after CVS documented his shit
[12:51] bnchs CVE*
[12:53] bnchs https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-23812
[12:53] TR Bot NO TITLE
[12:53] bnchs https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/node-ipc/issues/233
[12:53] TR Bot Issue #233 RIAEvangelist/node-ipc GitHub
[12:53] bnchs https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/node-ipc/issues/236
[12:53] TR Bot package should never try to do unrelated things. Issue #236 RIAEvangelist/node-ipc GitHub
[12:53] bnchs absolutely blasted by the community
● Mar 18
[13:01] TR News Hardly a real community. Commandeered largely by Microsoft by proxy. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/03/18/nodejs-community-update
[13:01] TR Bot Node.js community update | Red Hat Developer
[13:02] TR News #HowTo beautify your Java applications | https://opensource.com/article/22/3/beautify-java-applications
[13:02] TR Bot to beautify your Java applications | Opensource.com
[13:03] TR News The criminals from Microsoft are still at it https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-faces-eu-antitrust-complaint-about-its-cloud-computing-business-2022-03-17/ taking advantage of a lack of law enforcement http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/
[13:03] TR Bot faces EU antitrust complaint about its cloud computing business | Reuters
[13:03] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights
[13:04] kingoffrance " Minnesota Pushing Bill That Says Websites Can No Longer Be Useful For Teenagers" i find it interesting, where was this imaginary period the web was considered useful? it was dragged kicking and screaming, same way wikipedia was not "real"
[13:04] bnchs lol
[13:05] bnchs websites can no longer be useful for teenagers
[13:05] bnchs i wonder who ruined that
[13:05] TR News Microsoft crap creeping into Mesa at a level others than DX https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15439
[13:05] TR News Microsoft crap creeping into Mesa at a level other than DX https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/15439
[13:05] TR Bot Adding rusticl (!15439) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
[13:05] bnchs it's definitely not social media nahhh thats good
[13:05] TR News Enrico Zini: Context-dependent logger in Python http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2022/python/context-dependent-logger-in-python
[13:05] TR Bot Context-dependent logger in Python
[13:08] TR News LOLIN C3 Mini ESP32-C3 board is compatible with Wemos D1 Mini shields - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/18/lolin-c3-mini-esp32-c3-board-compatible-wemos-d1-shields/
[13:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/18/lolin-c3-mini-esp32-c3-board-compatible-wemos-d1-shields/
[13:08] TR Bot LOLIN C3 Mini ESP32-C3 board is compatible with Wemos D1 Mini shields - CNX Software
[13:09] TR News 1.51-inch transparent OLED display works over GDI or SPI interface - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/18/1-51-inch-transparent-oled-display-works-over-gdi-or-spi-interface/
[13:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/18/1-51-inch-transparent-oled-display-works-over-gdi-or-spi-interface/
[13:09] TR Bot 1.51-inch transparent OLED display works over GDI or SPI interface - CNX Software
[13:09] kingoffrance well as messed up as the web is....the alternative was aol, walled gardens. thats kind of what i mean, that crowd was never pushing "the web" in the first place.
[13:13] TR News "Driving away from the police, and quite drunk, she decided to come off a dirt-track and escape into a field. This didn't work, as the police just drove into the field after her, and cornered her car." gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/legend2.gmi
[13:14] TR News What do you self host? gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-18-re-what-do-you-self-host-.gmi
[13:15] kingoffrance were it a few years earlier, facebook might well be called e-yearbook .
[13:15] TR News "I feel like those people demonstrating against COVID19 measures here in Switzerland. I think they are wrong, but it's their right to disagree. Sadly, Nazis are joining all activities that promote distrust in the state, and so we have demonstrations for this and that" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-03-18_Self-proclaimed_association_and_the_pain_it_brings
[13:17] TR News Six capsules short of 2,250 gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[13:30] kingoffrance maybe the takeaway is: social media platform with more than 1,000,000 account holders operating in Minnesota is prohibited from using a social media algorithm to target user-created content at an account holder under the age of 18.
[13:31] kingoffrance adults are fair game to be brainwashed
[13:31] kingoffrance that will be "legal"
[13:31] bnchs brandon miller is gonna get his ass shredded
[13:31] bnchs in jail
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[13:41] immibis that sounds way too broad
[13:42] immibis maybe it's necessary, but hopefully not
[13:42] immibis you want platforms to be allowed to show soccer content to people who like other soccer content
[13:44] kingoffrance eh, im not advocating anything. im just failing to see where "morals" fit in
[13:44] kingoffrance one day you are magically old enough to be a target
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[13:45] kingoffrance re: few days ago ""therefore, there is no such thing as a design group which is both organized and unbiased""
[13:45] kingoffrance re: whether anon or transparent "peers" produce better research/papers
[13:45] kingoffrance s/better/less biased/
[13:46] kingoffrance conway says there is no less biased :D
[13:47] TR News Proprietary Software, Openwashing, and Microsoft Monopoly Abuse Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162692
[13:47] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162693
[13:47] TR News Internet/Web: TinyCP, Firefox, and Tor Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162694
[13:48] TR Bot Proprietary Software, Openwashing, and Microsoft Monopoly Abuse | Tux Machines
[13:48] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:48] TR Bot Internet/Web: TinyCP, Firefox, and Tor | Tux Machines
[13:50] kingoffrance Exceptions. User-created content that is created by a federal, state, or local government or by a public or private school, college, or university is exempt from this section.
[13:50] kingoffrance its really just a rules for thee and not for me card
[13:50] TR News Links 18/3/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta 2 and Openwashing Goes to Court | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/freebsd-13-1-beta-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/freebsd-13-1-beta-2/
[13:50] TR Bot Links 18/3/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta 2 and Openwashing Goes to Court | Techrights
[13:50] kingoffrance it you PPP you are fine.
[13:50] kingoffrance non-PPP will be slaughtered
[13:50] TR News todays hardware leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162695
[13:50] TR Bot today's hardware leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:51] bnchs kingoffrance, oh wow
[13:51] bnchs so basically a echo chamber for government
[13:51] bnchs and schools
[13:52] kingoffrance yes, nothing new :D
[13:52] bnchs yes i would definitely like this
[13:52] kingoffrance lol
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[13:58] kingoffrance it seems a lot like the carnegie unit "in the future, a merit-based system may be considered" (paraphrase wikipedia)
[13:58] kingoffrance they just dont want non-approved actors influencing children
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[14:21] bnchs kingoffrance, so turn everything into a echo chamber only for the gov and schools
[14:22] kingoffrance which high-paying jobs will depend on
[14:22] kingoffrance is why i say "slaughter"
[14:24] mimorek kingoffrance: I just watched "The Only Unbreakable Law". I can now sort of forgive myself for having such a hard time understanding software. ;)
[14:25] bnchs forgiving yourself?
[14:26] mimorek Yes. I think so.
[14:34] bnchs i think the problem with github copilot isn't just GPL
[14:35] bnchs it's also source code licensed under non-commerical license (examples: snes9x, genesis plus GX, valve's source SDK)
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[14:54] immibis bnchs: how would you approach the problem?
[14:55] bnchs license filter
[14:55] SomeH4x0r what did I miss?
[14:55] SomeH4x0r what problem, I mean
[14:56] bnchs github copilot and github projects with non-commerical license
● Mar 18
[15:04] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance
[15:04] immibis bnchs: the social control media problem
[15:04] bnchs oh
[15:04] bnchs immibis, explain the problem?
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[15:12] immibis bnchs: bad people put fake news on social media. Dumb people believe it and then commit a fascism
[15:13] bnchs no fix for that
[15:13] immibis so just give up and accept the fascist insurrection?
[15:14] bnchs it's darwinism if you can't tell a glowie between a real person
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[15:15] bnchs__ you can't babyproof social media
[15:16] bnchs__ because it will make dumb people even dumber
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[15:18] bnchs__ immibis, what do you think
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[15:26] schestowitz bnchs__: better to just avoid it
[15:26] schestowitz my life improved a lot since abandoning it
[15:26] bnchs__ yeah
[15:26] bnchs__ i don't use social medi
[15:26] schestowitz I can focus on longer taks
[15:26] schestowitz no notifications etc.
[15:27] schestowitz *tasks
[15:27] schestowitz today I added lots of stuff to git and improved the setup
[15:27] schestowitz our IRC logs have been quite largely lately
[15:28] schestowitz irc is not social control media, the networks are more integrated and not a noise machine with "trending" and "viral"
[15:28] bnchs__ git?
[15:29] bnchs__ oh i wanna ask you about the gemini git interface
[15:29] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/
[15:29] schestowitz the code for git over git is in git
[15:29] bnchs__ it should have a option to get files seperately as raw
[15:29] bnchs__ like a "Download raw file"
[15:29] bnchs__ link
[15:29] schestowitz yeah, good idea
[15:29] schestowitz easy to implement
[15:30] schestowitz let me check
[15:32] schestowitz-TR are you good at bash
[15:32] schestowitz-TR ?
[15:33] bnchs__ well kinda
[15:34] schestowitz check out gemini-git-update.sh
[15:34] schestowitz this part:
[15:34] schestowitz find "$d" -type f -not -name index.gmi \
[15:34] schestowitz -printf '## %p\n\n```\n' \
[15:34] schestowitz -exec cat {} \; \
[15:34] schestowitz -printf '\n```\n'\
[15:34] schestowitz >> "$d"index.gmi
[15:35] schestowitz it currently concatenates all the files in the dir
[15:35] schestowitz and adds a heading to each
[15:35] bnchs__ well do you provide a way to download the file?
[15:35] schestowitz we can output them all to their own file
[15:35] schestowitz or link to them
[15:35] bnchs__ like a URL (gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/[...]/raw)
[15:35] bnchs__ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/test.php/raw
[15:37] schestowitz the problem is file types, e.g. gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Gemini/gemini-git-sloc.sh
[15:38] schestowitz try:
[15:38] schestowitz amfora_1.7.2_linux_64-bit gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Gemini/gemini-git-sloc.sh
[15:38] schestowitz alfora does not care about file types
[15:38] schestowitz but graphical clients would choke
[15:39] schestowitz hence we create an index as gemtext with all the code in it, as raqw
[15:39] schestowitz hence we create an index as gemtext with all the code in it, as raw
[15:39] bnchs__ well
[15:40] bnchs__ that's another implementation-defined thing
[15:40] schestowitz-TR we could rewrite all the code files as .gmi files
[15:40] bnchs__ i'm pretty sure a sane client would prompt download if another MIME type was encountered
[15:40] schestowitz-TR and then add ''' at start and end (not those quotes by slanted ones)
[15:40] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: do we have many inacne clients
[15:41] schestowitz-TR even the web browsers act weight if you point to a shell script
[15:41] schestowitz-TR some suggest downloading it
[15:41] schestowitz-TR like falkon does
[15:41] bnchs__ in HTTP, that's mostly a server problem
[15:41] bnchs__ insane servers report HTML mime type for shell files or binary files
[15:41] bnchs__ so browsers choke aswell
[15:44] bnchs__ i like how people consider github's code search as a "feature"
[15:44] bnchs__ it doesn't even work in big codebases
[15:44] bnchs__ and medium codebases
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[15:56] TR News EPO Union: It is Now Time to Make a Political Statement and Go on Strike! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-publication-strike/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-publication-strike/
[15:56] TR Bot EPO Union: It is Now Time to Make a Political Statement and Go on Strike! | Techrights
[15:57] TR News WITHOUT even announcing it, they've SHUT DOWN their VALIDATOR after almost two decades. To they take corporate money from bullies like Microsoft while shutting down actual services that were useful! https://www.w3.org/
[15:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: w3.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.w3.org/
[15:57] TR Bot World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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[16:02] immibis it's darwinism when one person makes themselves suffer. it's civilizational darwinism when 30% of the population makes 100% suffer
[16:02] immibis our species has failed natural selection
[16:08] TR News This is partly a lie. "Validation Services" have been inaccessible for weeks to Falkon. I think W3C is now blocking "unknown" browsers, i.e. Web browsers not controlled by the W3C's sponsors. https://status.w3.org/
[16:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: w3.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://status.w3.org/
[16:08] TR Bot W3C Status
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[16:11] TR News Holy CRAP! Looks like W3C has in fact OUTSOURCED.... to CLOWNFLARE!!! Which silently blocks my browser because it is NOT malware. W3C has gone the way of the dodo and does NOT understand the Web.
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[16:27] immibis $bad_thing is when organizations pay for ddos protection
[16:31] schestowitz-TR clounflare operates at a loss
[16:31] schestowitz-TR and gives it to some for "free"
[16:31] schestowitz-TR for now
[16:31] schestowitz-TR they will tighten the grip
[16:31] schestowitz-TR then demand money
[16:31] schestowitz-TR like vimeo did
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[16:47] TR News This coming Tuesday the EPO staff goes on strike, and as we last noted yesterday, they have a lot to be angry about (its not about money but about upholding the law) http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-publication-strike/
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[17:03] TR News Richard Stallmans LibrePlanet Talk From 5 Years Ago | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/rms-libreplanet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/rms-libreplanet/
[17:03] TR Bot Richard Stallmans LibrePlanet Talk From 5 Years Ago | Techrights
[17:18] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162696
[17:18] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[17:20] DaemonFC history #techrights
[17:20] DaemonFC Shit
[17:20] schestowitz-TR tell the serve
[17:20] schestowitz-TR the ircd
[17:20] DaemonFC There we go.
[17:20] schestowitz-TR :-D
[17:20] DaemonFC I slept in. I did not sleep well yesterday. Now I'm all bleary eyed.
[17:23] immibis schestowitz-TR: they can turn off clownflare
[17:23] immibis if the capitalist upper class wants to give you free shit, take it
[17:23] schestowitz-TR :)
[17:23] schestowitz-TR they should know better
[17:23] schestowitz-TR for weeks I was unable to check validity
[17:23] schestowitz-TR and thought it had gone offline
[17:45] TR News An Alliance of Hate and Intolerance | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/lf-osi-sfc-attacking-fsf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/lf-osi-sfc-attacking-fsf/
[17:45] TR Bot An Alliance of Hate and Intolerance | Techrights
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[17:51] DaemonFC The COVID vaccine was "free", this time.
[17:51] DaemonFC It won't be next time.
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[17:52] DaemonFC It's going to turn into some annual shit show like the flu shot where it doesn't actually work very well, but people take it anyway, and never enough to really suppress the "COVID season" much.
[17:58] DaemonFC If it costs even $30, most people will just skip it because it costs money.
[17:59] DaemonFC Jamie Zawinski said he wanted to have CVS do a mobile flu shot clinic at the DNA Lounge one year but then he found out that they "aren't really free" except with insurance, and it costs like $30 without your insurance card, and "most people don't have their insurance card on them at a night club".
[17:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.71
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[18:00] DaemonFC What amazed me was he thought that a private company was going to come out and give 200-300 flue shots away "for free" when the sign clearly says, at the pharmacy Free* *(with most insurance plans).
[18:00] DaemonFC *flu
[18:00] DaemonFC I guess living in San Francisco fries your brain even more than I thought.
[18:03] DaemonFC These shots are like $30 with GoodRX for that matter, and they're maybe $40-50 without.
[18:03] DaemonFC So they don't just send a nurse or pharmacy tech out there to give them away.
[18:03] DaemonFC They consider them easy money.
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[18:13] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/utah-zoo-sued-for-reported-peacock-attacks-on-kids/
[18:13] TR Bot Utah zoo sued for reported peacock attacks on kids | WGN-TV
[18:13] DaemonFC The videos show the parents laughing while their kids tormented the birds with sticks.
[18:14] DaemonFC Now they're suing because the birds attacked due to the provocation.
[18:14] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/afternoon-meme-dump-23-memes-90.jpg
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[18:21] bnchs helloo
[18:22] bnchs "
[18:22] bnchs International Red Cross recommends that all persons have an emergency survival kit with multiday supplies of the most essential items. This is in case of any natural or man-made crisis resulting in a need for evacuation or a major disruption of day-to-day services. "
[18:22] bnchs unfortunately not everyone has that
[18:22] bnchs they expect the gov to step in
[18:22] bnchs and fight them
[18:22] DaemonFC The US is lucky enough that the logistics of a Russian (conventional) invasion would be impossible for Putin to pull off.
[18:23] DaemonFC And a nuclear one would be responded to immediately, causing Russia to be utterly destroyed as well.
[18:23] bnchs yes everyone should have an emergency survival kit
[18:23] bnchs but people think they don't need one
[18:23] DaemonFC Putin is frustrated that Russian ground troops aren't making much progress and are dying en masse.
[18:24] DaemonFC So he now has the Russian Navy sitting on the Black Sea lobbing expensive cruise missiles into Ukraine.
[18:24] DaemonFC Those things generally cost more than what the target they hit is worth.
[18:24] DaemonFC A Tomahawk cruise missile usually runs about a million and a half dollars per missile.
[18:25] DaemonFC Today Putin fired four cruise missiles at an airport outside Lviv.
[18:25] bnchs how does he pay for them?
[18:25] bnchs with taxes i guess right?
[18:25] DaemonFC Good question.
[18:26] DaemonFC Three cruise missiles were reported shot down earlier today in the Eastern part of Ukraine.
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[18:26] DaemonFC They're going through a bunch of stuff that they already had before the war broke out, which will not be easy to replace quickly.
[18:27] DaemonFC They expected minimal losses and then to move on and invade the rest of Europe once they'd established forward bases.
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[18:32] bnchs npm has such a dependency hell
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[18:32] bnchs holy crap lots of parting and joining messages
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[18:32] immibis internet must have netsplitted
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[18:33] XRevan86 I'm still around.
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[18:34] immibis bnchs: he just takes confiscates foreign currency so that the incidence of all sanctions falls on people other than him
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[18:34] bnchs oh that makes sense
[18:34] immibis besides, he already has the missiles. why pay for something you already have? did he buy them on layby?
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[18:35] bnchs i wanna talk about brandon nozaki miller (aka the asshole who put malware in his nodejs module that was used by vue.js)
[18:36] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights
[18:36] immibis the digital equivalent of randomly spraying bombs on a country that's invading you
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[18:36] bnchs it was flawed
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[18:37] bnchs first of the malware payload depended on a outdated IP geolocation database
[18:37] immibis piping-hot take: if it affects you, you deserve it for using javascript
[18:37] TR News EPO Staff Representatives Warn Delegates of the Council That Campinos is Now Outsourcing the EPO, Just Like He Did EUIPO, in Very Clear Violation of Fundamental Rules | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-outsourcing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-outsourcing/
[18:37] TR Bot EPO Staff Representatives Warn Delegates of the Council That Campinos is Now Outsourcing the EPO, Just Like He Did EUIPO, in Very Clear Violation of Fundamental Rules | Techrights
[18:37] bnchs second, retard went on 100% damage control after getting a CVE vulnerability on his ass
[18:37] bnchs third, he made his own wikipedia page
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[18:39] bnchs it's only a matter of time before he gets doxed
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[18:40] bnchs https://nitter.net/electricCowboyR
[18:40] TR Bot Brandon Nozaki Miller (@electricCowboyR) | nitter
[18:40] bnchs someone cracked his twitter
[18:40] bnchs only a matter of time before he gets DOXED
[18:40] schestowitz-TR never heard of him
[18:41] bnchs schestowitz-TR, brandon miller is the guy who developed node-ipc
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[18:41] bnchs today, he inserted a malware that overwrites your files with a heart emoji if it detected that your geolocation was russia
[18:41] schestowitz-TR using 'code' as a vehicle for sabotage
[18:41] schestowitz-TR how 'cool'
[18:42] bnchs then he rewrote the commit history
[18:42] bnchs to erase evidence that he did
[18:42] bnchs then he went on damage control
[18:42] immibis either you believe in sabotage or you don't. The fact that code is involved seems irrelevant.
[18:42] schestowitz-TR should be prosecuted
[18:42] immibis you can also complain about the poor targeting
[18:43] bnchs also he made node-ipc depend on his own package (peacenotwar) which of course
[18:43] bnchs makes a file in your desktop
[18:43] bnchs unity, vue.js complained about this
[18:43] schestowitz-TR I hope russia flies him to siberia and glasses him there
[18:43] immibis seems like two separate actions then. First making the desktop thing, then deciding that wasn't enough and going full nuclear
[18:43] bnchs he's definitely not going scott-free
[18:43] DaemonFC Who cares if the Russians get their computers wiped?
[18:43] DaemonFC Sounds pretty funny to me.
[18:43] bnchs someone already doxed him LOL
[18:44] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: not funny at all
[18:44] schestowitz-TR ad it hurts people who don't support putin
[18:44] schestowitz-TR maybe even opposition leaders
[18:44] schestowitz-TR putin doesn't pull packages from microsoft
[18:44] schestowitz-TR he's now THAT dumb
[18:44] schestowitz-TR (not
[18:44] bnchs schestowitz-TR, should i post link here?
[18:45] immibis not everyone in the russian government is putin
[18:45] schestowitz-TR don't mind..
[18:45] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/15/funny-dungeons-dragons-memes-03-15-22/
[18:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/15/funny-dungeons-dragons-memes-03-15-22/
[18:45] TR Bot Funny Dungeons & Dragons Memes According To A Guy Who Actually Plays D&D (30 Pics)
[18:45] bnchs https://doxbin.com/upload/BrandonNozakiMiller/raw
[18:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: doxbin.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://doxbin.com/upload/BrandonNozakiMiller/raw
[18:45] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://doxbin.com/upload/BrandonNozakiMiller/raw )
[18:45] schestowitz-TR immibis: seems political activism is sabotage now
[18:45] schestowitz-TR "for the lols"
[18:45] bnchs this is fully detailed
[18:45] bnchs including the part where he cheated on his wife
[18:45] bnchs this is the power of just one day
[18:46] XRevan86 Why do people think that GeoIP is reliable?
[18:46] immibis by the way here is a script that shows a message to russian-language users, although I am no good at writing english and the russian is auto-translated: https://immibis.com/russia_war_popup.html
[18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-immibis.com
[18:46] XRevan86 It cannot give 100% accuracy.
[18:46] immibis this is not sabotage at all, it just puts an interstitial page on first access to your website. posting it here in case anyone wants it on theirs
[18:46] bnchs i guess this is what happens
[18:46] bnchs when you fuck with your own source code
[18:46] MinceR XRevan86: because it's magic :>
[18:46] bnchs and fuck with people
[18:47] SomeH4x0r it is just an annoyance
[18:47] immibis schestowitz-TR: sabotage is a relatively extreme form of activism, to be used when milder forms have failed
[18:47] immibis remember the 4 boxes of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo
[18:47] SomeH4x0r > your army is invading Ukraine | "
[18:48] SomeH4x0r "and what the fuck? I just want to see the fucking website, I don't care about whoever and whatever else"
[18:48] SomeH4x0r fuck these pop-ups
[18:48] bnchs yeah fuck anti-russian crap
[18:48] SomeH4x0r websites must contain *relevant* stuff, and not waste people's time
[18:48] bnchs it's like they repeat it for the millionth time
[18:48] SomeH4x0r way to many banners and other shit
[18:48] SomeH4x0r *too
[18:49] XRevan86 MinceR: I have a friend in Ukraine that uses VPN now because she's affected by all these GeoIP blocks as well for some reason.
[18:49] immibis you realize there's an information blackout in russia. Every random place that says "no war" is an opportunity to slip through the blackout
[18:49] XRevan86 GeoIP \_()_/
[18:49] MinceR :(
[18:50] MinceR i bet those blocks don't affect terrorussian propaganda at all
[18:50] XRevan86 Why would they?
[18:50] XRevan86 immibis: Ye realise the people who are going to see these messages are the least likely to be in the blackout?
[18:50] MinceR because the people who wanted them thought they would
[18:51] XRevan86 A babushka in Zaryupinsk is not going to pull npm dependencies.
[18:52] bnchs just imagine the average russian web developer
[18:52] bnchs "i'm just gonna make a vue.js website"
[18:52] bnchs "where did my files go"
[18:53] immibis XRevan86: that's why they have to go in as many, widespread, places as possible
[18:53] XRevan86 immibis: https://t.me/uniannet/39473 this is more effective
[18:53] TR Bot Telegram: Contact @uniannet
[18:53] immibis btw even if you see it as propaganda... russia proved that propaganda works
[18:54] bnchs besides it's not like this happens everyday in NPM
[18:54] bnchs supply chain attacks
[18:54] bnchs NPM is full of supply chain attacks
[18:54] immibis XRevan86: what does it say?
[18:54] immibis must be a stock exchange with the ticker
[18:55] immibis so it's probably just saying it's down for maintenance (because must suppress truth)
[18:55] XRevan86 immibis: How many Russian army casualties, a Telegram channel link and "glory to Ukraine".
[18:56] XRevan86 They kind of screwed up because they used the total number of casualties and called it "deaths".
[18:56] XRevan86 But that's not the point.
[18:58] XRevan86 Regardless, the people in IT are immersed in information, they are not going to be affected by this kind of message.
[18:58] immibis yup so if you have a recipe site, put it on the recipe site
[18:58] XRevan86 But they might get annoyed by it, and especially by malware.
[18:58] immibis if you sell socks, put it on the sock store
[18:59] XRevan86 immibis: People who are going to read recipes in English same story.
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[19:00] XRevan86 immibis: And it's impossible to buy socks abroad at this point.
[19:01] XRevan86 There's a reason why the Kremlin's targeting resources in the Russian language: it's because the casual person is only going to read stuff in Russian.
[19:03] XRevan86 And indeed there are more and more European resources that started writing articles in Russian about the war, and RKN subsequently blocked them.
[19:05] TR News From the official talks description: Announcement of the 2016 Free Software Award winners (and more) by Richard Stallman http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/rms-libreplanet/
[19:05] TR Bot Richard Stallmans LibrePlanet Talk From 5 Years Ago | Techrights
[19:06] TR News The corporate front groups and Microsoft-funded organisations (LF, OSI, SFC) are attacking the FSF and the uploaded image below is real, except the text; it seems clear that Microsoft money is very costly as it dooms organisations, turning them against their original goals or purported mission http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/lf-osi-sfc-attacking-fsf/
[19:06] TR Bot An Alliance of Hate and Intolerance | Techrights
[19:06] DaemonFC NPM obviously can't be trusted.
[19:06] DaemonFC Today it's an attack on Russia. What will it be next time?
[19:06] TR News he sharks who are gutting Europes second-largest institution say they wish to deliver high-quality patents while they do the exact opposite, more so in violation of the European Patent Convention, as usual http://techrights.org/2022/03/18/epo-outsourcing/
[19:06] TR Bot EPO Staff Representatives Warn Delegates of the Council That Campinos is Now Outsourcing the EPO, Just Like He Did EUIPO, in Very Clear Violation of Fundamental Rules | Techrights
[19:06] bnchs well
[19:06] bnchs i guess in this case it was intentional
[19:07] bnchs and in this case, the dev got doxed
[19:07] XRevan86 I think it's perfectly O.K. for a project to express solidarity and call for peace, but that's not an excuse to make malware.
[19:07] bnchs also wanna talk about how he cheated on his wife
[19:07] bnchs behind her back
[19:08] bnchs he signed up to a couple of adultery sites and even paid 50$ to one
[19:08] XRevan86 Meanwhile, the judge that's going to give a verdict to Navalny, got a promotion from Putin.
[19:09] DaemonFC "npm, Inc. is a company founded in 2014, and was acquired by GitHub in 2020."
[19:09] XRevan86 Maybe that means he will be pardoned (not).
[19:09] DaemonFC No mention of Microsoft anywhere by name.
[19:09] bnchs the only good thing he made was a dominos pizza library for node.js
[19:10] bnchs if you can count a API wrapper
[19:10] DaemonFC Does is apply the $7.99 coupon for any large three topping carryout?
[19:11] bnchs will he get arrested for adultery
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[19:11] bnchs and maybe computer fraud
[19:11] DaemonFC Adultery is a criminal offense in Illinois.
[19:12] DaemonFC Nobody has been arrested for it since 1997.
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[19:12] DaemonFC But she had the charges dropped.
[19:12] DaemonFC The liberals think it's "enlightened" to let someone make a mockery out of their marriage vows, I suppose.
[19:14] bnchs tyrone will heart his ass
[19:14] bnchs maybe overwrite his rectum
[19:19] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo6MU_YfSbA
[19:19] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mo6MU_YfSbA
[19:19] TR Bot yewtu.be | Beautiful fluffy cat and her friends at the park are so cute - Invidious
[19:20] bnchs EU CHAT CONTROL LAW!!!
[19:20] bnchs The new "Chat Control" law, will enforce on-device scanning of every message sent in the internet. How do people not care about this?
[19:20] bnchs https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/messaging-and-chat-control/
[19:20] TR Bot Chat Control Patrick Breyer
[19:20] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1842161
[19:20] TR Bot Proposed law in Minnesota would ban algorithms to protect the children | Ars Technica
[19:21] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1842161
[19:23] bnchs schestowitz, you're glad UK brexited
[19:23] schestowitz-TR no
[19:23] bnchs what?
[19:24] AdmFubar geniuses! they're just geniuses! https://arstechnica.com/?p=1842075
[19:24] TR Bot Reviewers panned Apples Studio Display webcam, but a software fix is coming | Ars Technica
[19:24] immibis DaemonFC: the conservatives think marriage is "enlightened"
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[19:39] TR News Ubuntu 22.04 Lets You Pick A Custom Accent Colour Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162697
[19:39] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 Lets You Pick A Custom Accent Colour | Tux Machines
[19:39] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162698
[19:39] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[19:43] bnchs i just realized how insane rust devs are
[19:43] bnchs https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/74127
[19:43] TR Bot "whitelist" by tamird Pull Request #74127 rust-lang/rust GitHub
[19:43] bnchs https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/45418
[19:43] TR Bot "gender" from code of conduct, keep only "gender identity and expression" by Manishearth Pull Request #45418 rust-lang/rust GitHub
[19:43] bnchs https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/26107
[19:43] TR Bot difference by ChrisJefferson Pull Request #26107 rust-lang/rust GitHub
[19:43] bnchs https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/25681
[19:43] TR Bot -> [they] in Dining Philosophers by steveklabnik Pull Request #25681 rust-lang/rust GitHub
[19:44] bnchs this is just making me write in C more
[19:46] TR News The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/the-kudu-laptop-what-system76-does-best/
[19:46] immibis did you know anti-SJWs are at least as bad as SJWs?
[19:47] TR Bot The Kudu Laptop: What System76 Does Best - Boiling Steam
[19:47] schestowitz-TR what does this term even mean?
[19:47] schestowitz-TR and what are its orgiins?
[19:47] bnchs social justice warriors
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[19:48] TR News "I didn't write for a few months. I was relatively busy with work, and then the war broke which impacted me even though I'm not from Ukraine. I find it hard to concentrate on things related to work or even day to day tasks are hard because I keep thinking about people during war, their house is bombarded, they become refugees" gemini://tilde.team/~steve/blog/2022-03-18.gmi
[19:48] schestowitz-TR bnchs: I meant deeper than this
[19:48] bnchs yes
[19:48] immibis in this case SJWs = the kind of people who go out of their way to change "he"/"she" to "they", and anti-SJWs = the people who are triggered by the existence of SJWs
[19:49] bnchs it's worse that i
[19:49] bnchs actually use a 1-bit variable for sex
[19:49] bnchs (male/female)
[19:49] TR News "Erin was experimenting with old fashioned web technology and discovered you can just serve files with a regular web server, like straight from a directory, and these web servers are like free and super easy to set up." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/51-the-file-startup.gmi
[19:50] bnchs so i don't have to deal with non-binary gender and shit
[19:51] schestowitz-TR that's not related to tech anyway
[19:51] schestowitz-TR but it's a way to poison and troll projecta that are technical
[19:52] bnchs yes
[19:52] schestowitz-TR as it riles up people of all religions, and women too
[19:52] schestowitz-TR so let's get back on topic
[19:52] bnchs the whole thing is meant to cause infighting
[19:52] TR News 5 more cpasules to 2,250 gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[19:53] TR News This is very bad for Microsoft and for Windows, DRM notwithstanding https://boilingsteam.com/google-confirmed-steam-is-coming-to-chromeos-finally/
[19:53] TR Bot Google Confirmed Steam is Coming to ChromeOS. Finally! - Boiling Steam
[19:53] bnchs i hope microsoft isn't gonna damage control on this
[19:53] TR News "Home Wind released into Early Access recently as a free city-builder, although not really like many others as it takes a much more relaxed approach. Tested on Linux with Proton 7, it works perfectly." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/home-wind-is-a-free-minimalist-relaxing-and-cozy-city-builder/
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[19:53] TR Bot Wind is a free minimalist, relaxing and cozy city builder | GamingOnLinux
[19:54] bnchs wow home wind a proprietary windows game
[19:54] bnchs test with proton
[19:54] TR News "While Elgato continue to ignore the Linux market, developers from around the community end up creating applications to fill the gap. Now there's Boatswain, which allows Linux users to control Elgato Stream Deck devices." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/boatswain-is-a-new-stream-deck-compatible-app-for-linux
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[19:54] TR Bot is a new Stream Deck compatible app for Linux | GamingOnLinux
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[19:55] immibis who cares about chromeos?
[19:55] schestowitz-TR gulag
[19:56] schestowitz-TR they demoted crouton
[19:56] schestowitz-TR and natives OSes
[19:56] immibis bnchs: what happens if an intersex person wants to use your software?
[19:56] schestowitz-TR now they push crostini
[19:56] schestowitz-TR so they can control the whole "DE"
[19:56] bnchs chromeos is just gulag walled garden
[19:57] bnchs immibis, intersex?
[19:57] schestowitz-TR galliumOS I installed once
[19:57] schestowitz-TR the hardware makes it hard toi even boot into it
[19:57] schestowitz-TR you need to open up machines and remove screws
[19:58] schestowitz-TR I think there used to be some external switch
[19:58] immibis bnchs: you can't represent male, female and intersex in one bit
[19:58] schestowitz-TR and they increasingly remove such abilities
[19:58] bnchs immibis, what about 2 bits
[19:58] bnchs 00 = male 01 = female 10 = intersex
[19:58] immibis bnchs: try: male, female, other, prefer not to say. That's a pretty typical set
[19:58] schestowitz-TR tech has no gender
[19:58] schestowitz-TR people who focus on etch ignored genders
[19:58] schestowitz-TR but can recognise bad code and trolls
[19:58] bnchs other?
[19:59] schestowitz-TR no matter what
[19:59] schestowitz-TR anyway, back on topic
[19:59] immibis other including intersex, robots, aliens, etc
[19:59] bnchs this is sex not gender
[19:59] schestowitz-TR can we get back on topic?
[19:59] bnchs hmmm
[19:59] bnchs schestowitz-TR, ok ok
[19:59] schestowitz-TR you are falling into traps
[19:59] schestowitz-TR and we need to focus on tech
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[20:00] TR News Games: System76, Stadia, and Steam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162699
[20:00] TR Bot Games: System76, Stadia, and Steam | Tux Machines
[20:00] bnchs yes because gender/sex should now be a string
[20:00] AdmFubar ah the cloud... https://arstechnica.com/?p=1842076
[20:00] TR Bot Server issues lock Gran Turismo 7 owners out of single-player races | Ars Technica
[20:00] bnchs well whatever
[20:01] TR News
[20:01] TR News Debian interns: Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware for code and.... "You can connect with me on linkedin" x| https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Career-Interests
[20:01] TR Bot Career Interest!
[20:01] bnchs AdmFubar, modern video games really be like that
[20:01] bnchs gone are the days where you can play a game offline
[20:01] bnchs the game has to phone home
[20:02] TR News BUT... in this case Outreachy did result in some GitLAB https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Outreachy-Wrap-up
[20:02] TR Bot Outreachy-And it's a wrap!
[20:05] AdmFubar :)) https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-claim-to-breach-transunion-south-africa-with-password-password/
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[20:05] TR Bot Hackers claim to breach TransUnion South Africa with 'Password' password
[20:06] bnchs this is your brain on nesquik water
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[20:08] immibis bnchs: string works
[20:09] bnchs immibis, yes but wastes memory
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[20:14] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-15-22-1.jpg
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[20:14] TR News They try hard to bring "log4j" into headlines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162680#comment-33097
[20:14] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:15] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162700
[20:15] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:16] TR News Openwash loses in court http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162676#comment-33098
[20:16] TR Bot Openwashing and Misuse of Brands: 'Linux' Foundation, OSI, and SFC | Tux Machines
[20:17] TR News BS buzzwords from ICBM, trying to break what already works in the name of "modernising" or "transforming". "Over the past three years, no single trend has influenced the world around us more than digital transformation." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/digital-transformation-6-requirements-success
[20:17] TR Bot Digital transformation reality check: 6 requirements for success | The Enterprisers Project
[20:18] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: I feel like you should express some interest into what attracts people who want to say transphobic stuff to this channel in the first place
[20:18] TR News ICBM has driven away tons of Red Hat staff, including countless managers and executives; they're no experts when it comes to retention. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-hiring-7-tips-attract-and-retain-passionate-high-performing-talent
[20:18] TR Bot IT hiring: 7 tips to retain passionate, high-performing talent | The Enterprisers Project
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[20:20] bnchs mjg59_, what?
[20:20] TR News Letter to U.S. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus https://www.accessnow.org/letter-us-government-internet-access-russia-belarus-ukraine/
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[20:20] TR Bot Letter to U.S. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus - Access Now
[20:23] TR News Gulag is a COMPETITOR of LibreOffice, so this funding can raise some questions https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/18/build-up-your-skills-and-learn-exciting-new-things/
[20:23] TR Bot Build up your skills, and learn exciting new things! - The Document Foundation Blog
[20:25] TR News IBM emeritus Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Impact of Open Source on the EU Economy https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/03/impact-of-open-source-on-the-european-community.html
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[20:25] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Impact of Open Source on the EU Economy
[20:26] bnchs i know this is unrelated to tech, but i don't hate transgender people, just the unethical and barberic surgeries
[20:26] bnchs and the doctors that profit out of it
[20:27] SomeH4x0r what is wrong with the surgeries?
[20:27] bnchs they rely on doing irreversible damage to the body
[20:27] schestowitz-TR they are consensual
[20:28] schestowitz-TR unlike circumcision and FGM
[20:28] bnchs basically manipulate and push the person into thinking that they're trans
[20:28] bnchs and then they take the surgery
[20:28] schestowitz-TR but that's off topic anyway
[20:28] SomeH4x0r better than suicide, I think
[20:28] bnchs and when they see the end-result, they feel like a sucker
[20:28] schestowitz-TR zero connection to tech
[20:28] schestowitz-TR adrenaline rush for trolls
[20:29] bnchs ok
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[20:43] DaemonFC I wonder how diverse Mr. Goolag's employer is.
[20:43] DaemonFC He has a history of working for ones that are 90% male and close to 100% white.
[20:43] bnchs anyway i'm thinking
[20:44] bnchs how do you put GNU/Linux on a cyber-cafe?
[20:44] bnchs all the free cyber-cafe management software like mkahawa have been abandoned for a decade
[20:44] bnchs and uncompilable without some modifications
[20:45] MinceR develop a new one, or update an old one :>
[20:45] bnchs yes
[20:49] bnchs but i feel like it's gonna need some work
[20:50] bnchs like modifiying the display manager to not accept guest login without authenication from the cyber-cafe server
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[21:17] chicksahoy mjg59_: thank you for your support of the trans community
[21:18] chicksahoy SomeH4x0r: thanks for your support too
[21:18] SomeH4x0r no problem
[21:18] chicksahoy schestowitz-TR: thank you too :)
[21:19] chicksahoy SomeH4x0r: :)
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[21:19] chicksahoy i don't like the idea that i've been brainwashed and the surgery was a success
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[21:20] bnchs well ok
[21:20] SomeH4x0r IMHO some surgery is better than nothing. But the information about the possible issues needs to be provided too.
[21:21] chicksahoy SomeH4x0r: i got three manuals to read before i did it (Canada)
[21:21] SomeH4x0r as some trans people want to change their sex as much as possible
[21:21] bnchs but i don't like the doctors profitting out of it
[21:22] SomeH4x0r I don't like either
[21:22] chicksahoy they should be paid something for their amazing work, they are doing a job
[21:23] chicksahoy although i'd say they probably get paid way too much
[21:23] chicksahoy i think it was 40k for my surgery, not quite sure because the government paid for it
[21:23] bnchs i would say it would be too risky
[21:23] bnchs you know what they say "if it aint broke, then don't fix it"
[21:24] SomeH4x0r it is broken though
[21:24] chicksahoy yeah it is broken
[21:24] bnchs yeah
[21:24] chicksahoy i didnt want a male sex organ and im much happier without it
[21:24] chicksahoy sure there were risks but its worth it
[21:25] bnchs i guess i really don't know what gender dysphoria feels like
[21:25] chicksahoy being able to wear a skirt without a buldge makes me so happy
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[21:26] bnchs but what i especially don't like
[21:26] bnchs is where it turns unethical
[21:26] bnchs like pushing surgeries for kids
[21:26] chicksahoy they dont, thats a myth
[21:27] chicksahoy kids get puberty blockers
[21:27] bnchs well... wait what??
[21:27] chicksahoy medication that prevents puberty
[21:27] bnchs well that's a bit weird
[21:27] chicksahoy i wish i had puberty blockers, less body hair omg
[21:28] bnchs just shave lol
[21:28] chicksahoy its a lot worse tho
[21:28] chicksahoy i had to get laser hair removal on my face a bunch of times
[21:29] SomeH4x0r I consider reproduction to be unethical
[21:29] chicksahoy SomeH4x0r: fair enough, 7 billion people on earth
[21:29] chicksahoy i wonder how many people will be on earth in 2030
[21:29] bnchs tbh i do like my male sex organ
[21:29] SomeH4x0r hope it all ends in the Global Thermonuclear War
[21:30] bnchs all i know is that if you're doing it voluntarily then good luck to you
[21:30] chicksahoy bnchs: thanks
[21:31] MinceR https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-start-fixing-a-bug-and-discover-all-the-hidden-bugs-behind
[21:31] TR Bot When I start fixing a bug and discover all the hidden bugs behind | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
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[21:32] SomeH4x0r children are what remained of legalized slavery
[21:33] SomeH4x0r need to ban parenting
[21:33] MinceR just ban reproduction
[21:33] bnchs SomeH4x0r, well if thats the case
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[21:33] bnchs what would you do with the semen stored in your balls
[21:34] SomeH4x0r no idea
[21:34] immibis bnchs: you think non-trans people are being pushed into being trans for profit?
[21:34] bnchs immibis, sometimes i do think that
[21:35] immibis mjg59_: it's the fact they don't get immediately banned
[21:36] bnchs immibis, if you ban people for having different opinions, then you might aswell change the name
[21:37] bnchs anyway this is not related to tech
[21:37] immibis X inevitably causes Y. Y is bad. Change X or no?
[21:37] bnchs we need to go back
[21:37] XRevan86 Linux causes Kernel Panics
[21:39] bnchs i already fell into the trap
[21:39] MinceR i support changing Linux
[21:39] bnchs of speaking my opinion in this topic
[21:39] MinceR we could start with kicking out the corporate parasites and their CoC
[21:43] bnchs i'm sorry for making techrights look bad by falling into non-tech topics
[21:43] immibis free speech is a tech thing and a rights thing
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[21:52] bnchs mjg59_: it's the fact they don't get immediately banned
[21:52] bnchs you can find that in reddit
[21:52] bnchs but if you wanna turn techrights IRC into reddit
[21:53] bnchs then be my guest
[21:53] MinceR
[21:53] XRevan86 bnchs: To compete with freenode? :)
[21:53] DaemonFC basically manipulate and push the person into thinking that they're trans
[21:54] DaemonFC That's what Texas is investigating.
[21:54] DaemonFC Pressuring children into thinking they're trans and getting irreversible surgery when they're like 5.
[21:54] bnchs if you want users to be banned for thinking wrongly
[21:54] bnchs rather than convincing them
[21:54] chicksahoy DaemonFC: they dont get surgery that young
[21:54] bnchs then it will only make it worse
[21:54] DaemonFC They get hormones and then they'll be screwed up.
[21:55] DaemonFC Eventually many will say "I was brainwashed by my parents into taking forced medicine and now I have boobs and stuff.".
[21:55] bnchs chicksahoy, well i hope
[21:55] bnchs like that kid who "turned" into a queer
[21:55] bnchs desmond?
[21:56] chicksahoy DaemonFC: they get puberty blockers, hormones are for adults
[21:56] DaemonFC This all goes along with destroying the right to refuse unwanted and unnecessary medical care.
[21:56] DaemonFC When you're a kid, your parents are the state.
[21:56] DaemonFC So if they want you to take puberty blockers, is that right?
[21:57] chicksahoy parents arent forcing this on kids
[21:57] chicksahoy the kids come out on their own
[21:57] DaemonFC They have authority over you for like, a few years, and then you have to clean up whatever mess they make for you and live your life somehow later.
[21:57] bnchs i think puberty blockers for kids were banned on some state
[21:57] bnchs and a country
[21:57] DaemonFC This isn't really any different than forcing kids on Ritalin.
[21:58] chicksahoy in reality its probably the opposite, transphobic parents not letting their kids go on puberty blockers
[21:59] DaemonFC Doubtful.
[21:59] DaemonFC Anyway, kids don't know what they want.
[21:59] DaemonFC You ask a kid who should be president, it's whatever their parents said, most likely.
[21:59] bnchs chicksahoy, it's probably because they don't wanna rush it too fast
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[22:00] bnchs like kids can change their mind all the time
[22:00] DaemonFC Up to a certain age, most of them don't really make their own decisions or have opinions about things.
[22:00] chicksahoy i know what i wanted when i was a kid, i knew my parents were dumbfucks
[22:00] SomeH4x0r fuck the "future". A lie parents tell to children, maybe because of brainwashing.
[22:00] DaemonFC My parents weren't as bad as they are now.
[22:00] bnchs chicksahoy, well if you really wanted to know what you wanted
[22:00] DaemonFC I chalk it up to a steady diet of Fox News and Facebook, and a healthy dose of cognitive decline.
[22:00] SomeH4x0r almost 18 years after I was born, a war escalated in Ukraine, and I could actually get hit by a bomb in a few weeks
[22:01] SomeH4x0r and the damned "future" is gone
[22:01] DaemonFC and the damned "future" is gone
[22:01] DaemonFC I'm about to be 38 and I'm utterly horrified about what's happening in the world.
[22:01] DaemonFC I could live another 50 years with whatever the outcome is of what's going on now.
[22:01] chicksahoy russia is scary
[22:01] MinceR a bright, human-free future beckons
[22:01] SomeH4x0r my parents think I'm going to become a "successful" programmer. Just two brainwashed individuals.
[22:02] SomeH4x0r I don't actually have motivation for anything, they thought about programming just because I was using my computer all the time, for typical (or a bit not) user activities
[22:02] chicksahoy i cant drink coffee or smoke pot anymore because i get too paranoid about russia and their nukes
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[22:04] bnchs i got tcp killed
[22:05] bnchs now i wanted to say that the parents don't think their kids can think wisely
[22:05] XRevan86 "russia is scary" <- I'm also afraid.
[22:05] chicksahoy red scare 2.0
[22:06] bnchs i don't care about russia and shit
[22:07] XRevan86 I care a lot.
[22:08] bnchs the world should not be taken seriously
[22:08] XRevan86 There is no exit from a submarine.
[22:09] bnchs i treat the world as if it's a big comedy show
[22:09] immibis bnchs: into a place where transphobes aren't attracted to?
[22:09] bnchs immibis, what?
[22:10] immibis bnchs: "turn this into reddit" = "turn this into a place transphobes aren't attracted to"?
[22:10] bnchs no
[22:10] bnchs i meant a place that bans people for wrongthink
[22:10] bnchs rather than convincing and having a discussion with them
[22:11] immibis what do you think about people who aren't amenable to being discussed with?
[22:11] bnchs i try to be open-minded
[22:15] TR News Donenfeld: Random number generator enhancements for Linux 5.17 and 5.18 https://lwn.net/Articles/888413/
[22:15] TR Bot Random number generator enhancements for Linux 5.17 and 5.18 [LWN.net]
[22:15] TR News "The random number generator has undergone a few important changes for Linux 5.17 and 5.18, in an attempt to modernize both the code and the cryptography used. The smaller part of these will be released with 5.17 on Sunday" https://www.zx2c4.com/projects/linux-rng-5.17-5.18/
[22:15] TR Bot Random number generator enhancements for Linux 5.17 and 5.18
[22:16] TR News "CRI-O has released a security update addressing a critical vulnerabilityCVE-2022-0811in CRI-O 1.19. A local attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected Kubernetes environment as well as other software or platforms that use CRI-O runtime containers." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/03/18/cri-o-security-update-kubernetes
[22:16] TR Bot CRI-O Security Update for Kubernetes | CISA
[22:18] TR News Would Proposed Tech Regulations Foster Foreign Information Warfare? - Disruptive Competition Project https://www.project-disco.org/competition/031822-would-proposed-tech-regulations-foster-foreign-information-warfare/
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[22:18] TR Bot Would Proposed Tech Regulations Foster Foreign Information Warfare? - Disruptive Competition Project
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[22:19] TR News Coding in a war zone: A Ruby developer's life in Kharkiv - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/ruby_ukraine_zverok/
[22:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/ruby_ukraine_zverok/
[22:19] TR Bot Coding in a war zone: A Ruby developer's life in Kharkiv The Register
[22:20] TR News xxxxxMicrobel once again running ads/spam for AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-ryzen-server&num=1 follow the money... http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
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[22:20] TR Bot Makes A Compelling Case For Budget-Friendly Ryzen Dedicated Servers - Phoronix
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[22:23] TR News Regulatory compliance at scale with Red Hat Insights https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/regulatory-compliance-scale-red-hat-insights ICBM is upselling GNU/Linux; pay us or face security problem...
[22:23] TR Bot Regulatory compliance at scale with Red Hat Insights
[22:23] DaemonFC https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/google-accused-of-systemic-bias-black-employees-lawsuit-rcna20695
[22:23] TR Bot Google is accused in lawsuit of systemic bias against Black employees
[22:23] DaemonFC mjg59_ presumably benefited from white privilege at Google.
[22:24] TR News Boston University sees success with new educational tools built with Red Hat OpenShift Data Science https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/boston-university-sees-success-new-educational-tools-built-red-hat-openshift-data-science they outsourced to Amazon, just like ICBM and Fedora
[22:24] TR Bot Boston University sees success with new educational tools built with Red Hat OpenShift Data Science
[22:24] DaemonFC According to the lawsuit, security at Google stopped black employees often and demanded to see their ID and questioned them about what they were even doing there.
[22:24] bnchs i don't want techrights to turn into anti-wrongthink
[22:24] DaemonFC It also pays them less and offers few opportunities for a promotion.
[22:24] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I don't have CS degree :-) but am white
[22:24] DaemonFC According to a complaint seeking class-action status, Google maintains a racially biased corporate culture that favors white men, where Black people comprise only 4.4% of employees and about 3% of leadership and its technology workforce.
[22:25] schestowitz-TR but that's not on topic anyway
[22:25] DaemonFC Matt Goolag's former employer becomes a millstone around his neck.
[22:25] schestowitz-TR those companies make up for reality
[22:25] schestowitz-TR by making marketing and brochures that are gender- and race-balanced
[22:25] schestowitz-TR e.g. 50% female
[22:25] schestowitz-TR when in their eng teams they're like 99% mala
[22:25] schestowitz-TR and in general maybe 90% male
[22:26] DaemonFC It's interesting that Mr. Goolag didn't complain about this while he was there.
[22:26] schestowitz-TR so the footage and bribed-for marketing creates fictional reality
[22:26] DaemonFC "Take the paychecks Matt, and here's some more Secure Boot stuff from Microsoft and the NSA!"
[22:26] schestowitz-TR ICBM/Red Hat and Microsoft do so a lot
[22:29] bnchs can we go back to tech
[22:29] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS61nn1h2IM
[22:29] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lS61nn1h2IM
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[22:29] bnchs i feel like we derailed a bit
[22:29] DaemonFC This reminds me of a Voyager Borg episode.
[22:29] schestowitz-TR we did
[22:29] schestowitz-TR although the latter issue is not entirely "off"
[22:29] bnchs yeah
[22:29] DaemonFC Someone questions Seven about why the Borg didn't assimilate any Kazon.
[22:29] schestowitz-TR it's about tech companies faking their tolerance
[22:29] schestowitz-TR so they can then shame US about such thing
[22:29] DaemonFC She replies that the Kazan were deemed unworthy of assimilation.
[22:29] schestowitz-TR while distracting from themselves
[22:29] DaemonFC The Borg snubbed them because it would put them further away from their goal of perfection.
[22:30] schestowitz-TR it's how companies troll and destabilize communities
[22:30] schestowitz e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/
[22:30] TR Bot IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights
[22:31] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-war-nigerian-students-trapped-in-kherson/a-61165474
[22:31] TR Bot war: Nigerian students trapped in Kherson | Africa | DW | 17.03.2022
[22:31] DaemonFC I'm thinking it was an acknowledgment that the first couple of seasons should have had a better villain than Klingons with no honor engaging in various counts of piracy in the Delta Quadrant.
[22:31] DaemonFC That's obviously what they were looking for with the "Kazon". A Delta Quadrant analogue to the Klingons.
[22:32] DaemonFC But the whole thing quickly turned into a trope that could be considered a racist stand in about black stereotypes.
[22:32] *techrights_guest|51 (~3241819c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
[22:32] techrights_guest|51 Thank you for your article on DDG....I had a sneaking suspicion it was too good to be true!
[22:33] DaemonFC "Look at them, they're so stupid and incompetent. About the only thing they can do is hijack other people's vessels and figure out how to press some of the buttons while they go looting."
[22:33] techrights_guest|51 Any other suggestions for effective privacy browsers?
[22:33] MinceR tor browser, maybe
[22:34] DaemonFC The Kazon were never shown doing much of anything except tribal infighting with each other about which one of them had more ships and women.
[22:34] TR News Is Linux Foundation paying spamfarms now? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162576#comment-33099
[22:34] techrights_guest|51 isnt that darkweb?
[22:34] TR Bot Linux Foundation Marketing Fluff | Tux Machines
[22:34] DaemonFC They couldn't even figure out how to deal with Voyager, which was one ship, without Seska filling them in on combat tactics.
[22:35] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162701
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[22:35] TR News Devs of new filesystem try for Linux kernel again Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162702
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[22:35] bnchs techrights_guest|51, thats what the media calls it
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[22:35] techrights_guest|51 oh k..lol
[22:35] schestowitz-TR techrights_guest|51: gemini :D
[22:36] MinceR it can also access the public web
[22:36] bnchs it's simply a network of free and anonymous websites
[22:36] schestowitz-TR or tor browser :-)
[22:36] DaemonFC Maybe you could compare the Kazon-Nistrim with the Russian attack on Ukraine. Perhaps never has an invasion turned into such a disaster for the aggressor except for the Six Day War.
[22:36] techrights_guest|51 thank u ;)
[22:36] bnchs but it gets associated with criminals
[22:36] DaemonFC Putin even has to copy Trump now. With the rallies.
[22:36] bnchs criminals using the tor browser are simply a side-effect of the freedom tor browser gives you
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[22:37] DaemonFC He's having "Russia is fantastic!" rallies where they bus in some sycophants to cheer for Putin while he reads prepared speeches.
[22:37] schestowitz-TR that's like saying people who reject postcards and use envelopes are criminals
[22:37] DaemonFC They're very smart Russians that go to these, you know.
[22:37] techrights_guest|51 gemini looks interesting
[22:37] bnchs schestowitz-TR, yes
[22:37] DaemonFC They figured out a very complex chant.... It goes....."Russia! Russia! Russia!".
[22:37] XRevan86 DaemonFC: They might even not get fired from their state-owned jobs!
[22:37] DaemonFC It must have taken them weeks to come up with that.
[22:37] XRevan86 Lots of benefits
[22:38] techrights_guest|51 got it! thnx for advice
[22:38] TR News Upgraded free software push for school IT resources http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162681#comment-33100
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[22:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm swapping out my internet trash can.
[22:38] DaemonFC I've had to turn it on and off so many times the button broke.
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[22:39] DaemonFC DaemonFC: They might even not get fired from their state-owned jobs!
[22:39] DaemonFC With their state paychecks.
[22:39] DaemonFC Which can buy all three bags of sugar left in Russia.
[22:40] activelow don't forget, the Russian and Ukrainian pipelines last were reported to operate at 100% to supply EU with gas
[22:40] DaemonFC I've wondered why Ukraine hasn't dug down to the gas pipes that travel from Russia to Europe and blown them up yet.
[22:40] TR News A whole SEA of BUZZWORDS https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15561/what-is-agent-based-gitops-and-how-does-it-differ-from-ci-cd/
[22:40] TR Bot What Is Agent-Based GitOps and How Does It Differ From CI/CD? CloudSavvy IT
[22:40] activelow DaemonFC: $$$
[22:40] DaemonFC To force Putin to stop selling them gas if they won't stop buying it themselves.
[22:41] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That gas has already been paid for.
[22:41] bnchs ci/cd?
[22:41] MinceR maybe they don't want to alienate the europeans
[22:41] DaemonFC According to the maps I've seen, there's three major pipes from Russia traveling underneath Ukrainian territory.
[22:41] MinceR continuous integration/delivery
[22:41] DaemonFC I'd have arranged to dig and then blow them up.
[22:41] TR News 9 Stunning Icon Themes for Linux to Refresh Your Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162703
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[22:41] XRevan86 DaemonFC: yes, without Nordstream-2 Ukraine is essential
[22:42] activelow XRevan86: who paid what for? Ukraine ows Putin a mountain of cash, 25billion was some of the last reports
[22:42] DaemonFC They can deduct it from the reparations he owes them now.
[22:44] activelow btw. i still think every building which caught fire had to be investigated, what caused it, and by whom. doubt it will ever be discussed, what it was.
[22:44] TR News "Chrome OS Flex is a NEW and superfast, Linux-based operating system created by Google. It is a web-first system meaning it focuses on working with web applications." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=avYrlLaMkeg
[22:44] TR Bot Chrome OS Flex | Everything You Need To KNOW! - Invidious
[22:45] XRevan86 activelow: Yanukovich-debt is not something Ukraine considers paying.
[22:45] TR News LOLOL. Moving from X to BuzzwordX. This is... "IT"... a whole lot of crap hijacked by charlatans and marketing people. https://www.fosslife.org/moving-it-operations-devops
[22:45] TR Bot Moving from IT Operations to DevOps
[22:45] XRevan86 That bribe money was never used to help Ukraine in the first place.
[22:46] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/11 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/03/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-11/
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hes an opportunist
[23:04] schestowitz-TR this.
[23:04] matey but he didnt set out to destroy the party-- i think kuhn was also sincere, but hes been corrupted (not by bribes, by his own ambitions)
[23:04] schestowitz-TR he needs to distinsuish himself
[23:04] schestowitz-TR but he squishes himself
[23:04] schestowitz-TR he won't replace RMNS
[23:04] matey right
[23:04] schestowitz-TR as many people thought he was a decade ago
[23:04] schestowitz-TR *would
[23:05] matey the funny thing is, people DO this sort of thing, and it seems too outlandish to be possible
[23:05] schestowitz-TR I really should not type while sipping coffee
[23:05] matey no one would sell out their own movement to become the leader of it
[23:05] schestowitz-TR lots of typos, also if I stand up
[23:05] matey but this happens
[23:05] schestowitz-TR matey: I think I know who you are
[23:05] schestowitz-TR you mentioned "chicksahoy"
[23:05] schestowitz-TR The timing was interesting
[23:06] schestowitz-TR it was some sort of agent provocateur
[23:06] matey you mentioned "chicksahoy" <- i was responding to a question from someh4x0r
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[23:06] schestowitz-TR which I think shows they are worried about something we said
[23:06] schestowitz-TR so they try to manufacture a distraction from it
[23:06] schestowitz-TR to beat a straw man over the head
[23:06] matey schestowitz-TR: i dont know who chicksahoy is
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[23:06] schestowitz-TR it's a troll
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[23:06] schestowitz-TR someone pointed that out to me, thinking the same as me
[23:07] schestowitz-TR the spectacle was quite remarkable
[23:07] matey i know who ahoy is
[23:07] schestowitz-TR how very obvious the objective was
[23:07] schestowitz-TR but anyway, that same topic keeps getting interjected
[23:07] schestowitz-TR never by long timers
[23:07] schestowitz-TR only by new people
[23:07] matey what same topic?
[23:08] schestowitz-TR it started happening last year
[23:08] schestowitz-TR matey: the one that is sure to piss off everyone and is 0% related to tech
[23:08] matey that doesnt narrow it down for me
[23:08] matey i can think of a few
[23:09] matey trans rights (which i support) daemonfcs racism (which is a mixed bag, hes married to a gay minority) and a bunch of things stallman was lynched for
[23:09] matey so i dont know which of these youre referring to
[23:10] schestowitz-TR you had the finger at the right thing
[23:10] schestowitz-TR which I'd rather move on from
[23:10] schestowitz-TR re bkuhn
[23:10] schestowitz-TR and sandler
[23:10] matey youd rather move on from the thing about kuhn?
[23:10] schestowitz-TR they used fsf as a springboard
[23:10] schestowitz-TR emoglen sued them iirc
[23:10] matey yes
[23:10] matey over trademark abuse
[23:10] schestowitz-TR yeah
[23:11] schestowitz-TR to me it seemed fair that he SUED
[23:11] matey though i think he was willing to overlook the trademark similarities
[23:11] schestowitz-TR I mean, the similarity
[23:11] matey but when they started attacking him
[23:11] schestowitz-TR never mind the acronym
[23:11] matey kuhn basically ripped off sflc, which he used to work for
[23:11] matey he had similar issues with the fsf
[23:11] matey and when taken to task for it, he joined a lynch mob against rms
[23:11] schestowitz-TR today I published an RMS talk from 5 years ago
[23:11] matey yeah i saw it
[23:12] schestowitz-TR in min 1-2 IIRC he mentioned moglen
[23:12] schestowitz-TR gives him tons of credit for the movement
[23:12] matey moglen is the coauthor of the gpl
[23:12] matey at least gpl3 but i think with the original gpl rms was the author and moglen just finessed it a bit
[23:12] schestowitz 2 hours ago, LWN: https://lwn.net/Articles/888453/
[23:12] TR Bot Copyleft Won't Solve All Problems, Just Some of Them [LWN.net]
[23:12] schestowitz LWN does amplify FSF to be fair
[23:12] matey either way, rms and mogel are the coauthors of the gpl
[23:13] schestowitz but SFC is some sort of protestant resistance
[23:13] schestowitz with low blows
[23:13] matey im not sure if the fsf is worth amplifying anymore. i dont only speak for myself either
[23:13] schestowitz and I don't think that advances software freedom
[23:13] matey sfc is corrupt
[23:13] schestowitz sfc is not corrupt
[23:13] matey an organisation that leads with lies is a disservice and should have its charter revoked
[23:13] schestowitz it is very problematic
[23:13] matey we dont have to agree
[23:13] schestowitz I can think of more corrupt institutions
[23:13] matey problematic is kuhns favourite word
[23:13] schestowitz osi and lf became miles worse
[23:13] schestowitz sfc is provoking
[23:13] matey its an understatement
[23:14] matey sfc is not far behind
[23:14] schestowitz yeah
[23:14] schestowitz getting there
[23:14] DaemonFC I just bought a chest freezer.
[23:14] schestowitz LWN: "Over on the Software Freedom Conservancy blog, Bradley M. Kuhn considers the question of the interaction between copyleft and the "ethical source" effort that seeks to use copyleft-like licensing to bring about additional changes"
[23:14] matey if osi is the trojan army and fsf is the city then sfc is the horse
[23:14] schestowitz they already hired some anti-Linus trolls
[23:14] DaemonFC I can only ever just barely get my regular freezer to close and it's so annoying.
[23:14] matey at least in terms of evil by degree
[23:14] schestowitz and even anti-RMS
[23:14] schestowitz and you know which companies they got paid by
[23:14] DaemonFC I'd like to stock up on more food. It seems like people are panic buying freezers.
[23:14] matey my only interest in what lwn says is if they support this ethical source farce or they dont
[23:15] DaemonFC The price on Amazon has doubled lately.
[23:15] TR News Jasems Ekosphere: KStars v3.5.8 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162707
[23:15] matey brb
[23:15] TR Bot Jasem's Ekosphere: KStars v3.5.8 Released | Tux Machines
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[23:15] DaemonFC It hasn't done that at the Home Depot, yet.
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[23:15] matey you were saying
[23:15] DaemonFC Putin is telling Russians not to panic about food shortages.
[23:15] DaemonFC I'll bet that helps.
[23:16] DaemonFC The Moscow Times showed pictures of Russian store shelves. Barely any food left on them.
[23:16] TR News The criminals from Microsoft attack Linux. Of course they had to. Can't leave us alone. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/microsoft-announce-xbox-cloud-gaming-for-steam-deck-with-edge
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[23:16] TR Bot announce Xbox Cloud Gaming for Steam Deck with Edge (Beta) | GamingOnLinux
[23:16] DaemonFC When there were gaps on the shelves in the US, Trump said don't panic, and within an hour everyone in Waukegan rushed Walmart and there was absolutely no food left at all.
[23:16] DaemonFC None.
[23:16] DaemonFC Not a bag of beans.
[23:16] DaemonFC Not a loaf of bread.
[23:16] DaemonFC Not a box of spaghetti.
[23:16] DaemonFC Nothing.
[23:17] DaemonFC Same thing throughout the country.
[23:17] matey sfc attacked rms-- that was an attack on the movement itself
[23:17] DaemonFC Aldi started rationing, limiting people to like 2 meat items per shopping trip, four cans of vegetables, one loaf of bread, a gallon of milk.
[23:17] matey now kuhn is using sfc to attack the fsd
[23:17] DaemonFC It was absolutely horrible.
[23:18] matey the entire concept of ethical source can only be written in crayon. legally its one of the stupidest ideas on earth
[23:18] activelow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes
[23:18] TR Bot RussiaUkraine gas disputes - Wikipedia
[23:18] matey so either kuhn is an idiot, or hes attacking free software with nonsense.
[23:18] matey deliberately.
[23:19] schestowitz-TR remember who funds them
[23:19] schestowitz-TR and why
[23:19] schestowitz-TR or what for
[23:19] matey ethics should be fought for with something other than licenses-- because all youll get from ethical licenses is bad ethics and useless licenses and nonfree software
[23:19] matey yeah who funds them matters
[23:19] activelow minor correction, it isn't clarified how much cash it is. business model: buy for 50, sell for 250.
[23:19] matey though if they stop fundning them, kuhn doesnt go back to having integrity
[23:20] matey hes blown any chance of being trusted as leader by anyone with common sense
[23:20] matey anyone trusting him now is one of these: an idiot, an opportunist, or someone who just doesnt care about ethics or honest
[23:20] matey but one of those
[23:21] matey or maybe theyre not paying attention. lets be entirely fair.
[23:21] DaemonFC The closest thing we've ever had to a Communist-style famine happened under Donald Trump.
[23:21] DaemonFC I hope nobody forgets that quickly.
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[23:22] DaemonFC It was hard to find ANYTHING to eat for about 6 weeks.
[23:22] TR News Truly bizarre idea from an IBM-funded shill, Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/03/18/why-nvidia-should-acquire-suse/
[23:22] TR Bot Why Nvidia Should Acquire SUSE
[23:22] DaemonFC Then for months you didn't necessarily find all the ingredients you needed to make a particular meal, but weren't in immediate danger of starvation at least.
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[23:23] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I had to get creative for a long time with what to make fo dinner, but I got us by.
[23:23] DaemonFC I had a wall of canned goods in the motel room we were living in. 2020 was awful.
[23:23] schestowitz-TR kevingranade: copyleft.conf
[23:23] schestowitz-TR * matey
[23:24] schestowitz-TR error: conf file missing integrity
[23:24] schestowitz-TR please try remove line 1: microsoft token
[23:24] matey i dont doubt that microsoft has a hand in this
[23:24] schestowitz-TR gulag also
[23:24] schestowitz-TR and slaesforce
[23:24] matey that too
[23:24] schestowitz-TR the ice companies
[23:24] matey definitely
[23:25] schestowitz-TR ice ice baby kuhn
[23:25] matey my only quibble is whether kuhn could ever be trusted again
[23:25] schestowitz-TR ethics
[23:25] schestowitz-TR fuck off, brad
[23:25] schestowitz-TR taking ice money
[23:25] matey i wouldnt trust him again if we all lived to be 100
[23:25] schestowitz-TR and telling me about ethics
[23:26] schestowitz "In his view, copyleft and ethical software are not really compatible, even though many in free-software world (including Kuhn) are highly sympathetic to the goals, especially in light of the recent invasion of Ukraine by Russia."
[23:26] schestowitz https://lwn.net/Articles/888453/
[23:26] TR Bot Copyleft Won't Solve All Problems, Just Some of Them [LWN.net]
[23:26] schestowitz "Ethical"...
[23:26] schestowitz corporations can embrace this if it helps attack FS
[23:27] schestowitz then they will dump "ethical" too
[23:27] schestowitz they eats their own trolls, eventually..
[23:27] matey fucking over the fsd isnt going to help ukraine, anyone that thinks so is high
[23:27] matey open source eats their own
[23:27] TR News SUSE/OpenSUSE Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162708
[23:27] TR Bot SUSE/OpenSUSE Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:28] matey and sfc is using open source tactics
[23:29] schestowitz-TR "open"..
[23:29] schestowitz-TR ."source"
[23:29] schestowitz-TR (sometimes)
[23:29] schestowitz-TR sometimes open
[23:29] matey twisting things around in an opportunistic fashion to dislodge obstacles to their own ascension
[23:29] schestowitz-TR sometimes source
[23:29] schestowitz-TR some of it
[23:29] schestowitz-TR pinky promise
[23:29] schestowitz-TR ukraine shows how countries that use Windows get burned
[23:29] schestowitz-TR literally
[23:29] schestowitz-TR sjvn is 90% turncoat now
[23:29] matey ukraine should absolutely use free software
[23:29] schestowitz-TR pushing this diea that micreosoft is security auirthority
[23:30] schestowitz-TR that looks to 'save' ukraine
[23:30] matey if they use "ethical source" it will (like github) only lead back to microsoft again
[23:30] schestowitz-TR in zdnet
[23:30] DaemonFC XRevan86, Probably the safest will be the police, because the government needs them to protect itself from the people it is failing. Some things are the same everywhere. Right?
[23:30] matey s/ethical source/hypocritical farce/
[23:30] matey hypocritical source
[23:31] matey sjvn is 90% turncoat now <- whats the other 10? useless to both sides?
[23:31] matey 90% turncoat and 10% useless
[23:32] matey or 100% useless to free software
[23:32] DaemonFC Freezers actually don't add much to your electric bill.
[23:32] DaemonFC Maybe $3 a month.
[23:32] schestowitz-TR yes, I said hypocritical
[23:32] DaemonFC Cheap hedge against the stores running out of food.
[23:32] schestowitz-TR in the video today
[23:32] matey if i liked him less, i would say hes the kuhn of the tech press
[23:32] schestowitz-TR sjvn occasionally writes something good
[23:32] matey but i like kuhn even less than sjvn
[23:32] schestowitz-TR like recommending something community
[23:32] matey sjvn occasionally writes something good <- maybe he has a ghostwriter, or just forgets to sell out sometimes
[23:32] schestowitz-TR a lot of his posts are "Drone" posts
[23:33] schestowitz-TR obligatory puff pieces for his owners and clients
[23:33] schestowitz-TR (zdnet's)
[23:33] XRevan86 DaemonFC: There's also the National Guard, but yea.
[23:33] schestowitz-TR lf, oin, icbm, microsoft...
[23:33] DaemonFC DaemonFC: There's also the National Guard, but yea.
[23:33] DaemonFC For some reason, our government hesitates to bring out the National Guard when there are riots.
[23:33] DaemonFC They're content to let the police handle it.
[23:33] DaemonFC It makes it look like things are more under control I guess.
[23:34] DaemonFC When you bring out the military, usually what ends up happening is that they start killing people, and then it leads to even more of an uprising.
[23:34] matey if putin destroyed zdnet i doubt one important story would be missed
[23:34] DaemonFC The cities are burned.
[23:34] DaemonFC More damage than if you let the police deal with it.
[23:34] matey granted id rather he stop his reign of terror, but as long as hes on one we can be hypothetical
[23:34] DaemonFC You can see the scars of the riots in the 1960s in Chicago.
[23:35] DaemonFC They brought out the National Guard to put down black people rioting in Chicago and Detroit.
[23:35] DaemonFC It didn't go well.
[23:35] DaemonFC Most of the places where there's no building there, but you can tell there used to be, burned down in the riots.
[23:35] DaemonFC The National Guard coming in escalated the violence.
[23:35] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: don't go there..
[23:36] XRevan86 DaemonFC: There haven't been riots, but Putin is determined to crush any protest as if it's the most vicious riot ever.
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[23:36] DaemonFC What ends up happening is that there's tit-for-tat exchanges and people die.
[23:36] DaemonFC DaemonFC: There haven't been riots, but Putin is determined to crush any protest as if it's the most vicious riot ever.
[23:36] DaemonFC There were more lootings than "riots" in 2020 here.
[23:37] DaemonFC Trump blustered about sending in the military, but never did.
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[23:37] DaemonFC He hid inside an underground bunker and the press made fun of him for doing it.
[23:37] matey funnily enough there was a powerful gang in russia in the 1990s
[23:37] matey they handled things like restaurants typically-- a bit like the mafia
[23:37] TR News "Registration for DebConf22 is now open. The the 23rd edition of DebConf will take place from July 17th to 24th, 2022 at the Innovation and Training Park (ITP) in Prizren, Kosovo, and will be preceded by DebCamp, from July 10th to 16th." https://bits.debian.org/2022/03/debconf22-registration-and-call-for-proposals-are-open.html
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[23:38] matey one day they finally killed a journalist, and that was what finally got the goverment to break the gang up
[23:38] DaemonFC People were comparing it to the last days of Hitler.
[23:38] DaemonFC Underground in a bunker losing his mind.
[23:38] matey or so i understand, im sure its not quite as simple as that
[23:38] matey today you can open a restaurant without being shaken down
[23:38] DaemonFC Hitler could have gotten out of Germany had he left immediately.
[23:38] matey you only have to worry about putler now
[23:39] DaemonFC He could have bribed people to get him to South America with a bunch of other Nazis. Taken a bag of cash with him.
[23:39] DaemonFC Not German Marks obviously.
[23:39] DaemonFC There's a conspiracy theory that says that's what happened.
[23:40] DaemonFC And so that people wouldn't go looking for him, he had a body double murdered and burned instead.
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[23:40] schestowitz-TR [23:39] There's a conspiracy theory that says that's what happened.
[23:41] schestowitz-TR GBI documents mentioned this too
[23:41] schestowitz-TR they did not say that it happened
[23:41] schestowitz-TR but that it was rermoately plsusiblke
[23:41] schestowitz-TR iirc, the soviets got to his body first
[23:41] matey schestowitz-TR: you know who kuhn REALLY reminds me of
[23:41] matey more and more
[23:41] schestowitz-TR so fbi and OSS (pre-CIA/NSA) had no way to be certain what had happened
[23:41] matey looking at this crap: https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/17/copyleft-ethical-source-putin-ukraine/
[23:41] TR Bot Copyleft Won't Solve All Problems, Just Some of Them - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[23:41] schestowitz-TR and then came operation papercliup
[23:41] matey this is like "linux sucks" except its "copyleft sucks"
[23:42] schestowitz-TR hahaha
[23:42] schestowitz-TR yes, you are on to something
[23:42] matey seriosuly hes such a troll
[23:42] schestowitz-TR let's attack this thing I claim to love
[23:42] schestowitz-TR but hide it just enough
[23:42] matey the thing is
[23:42] schestowitz-TR as a "joke"
[23:42] schestowitz-TR of "for humour"
[23:42] matey he probably DOES love copyleft
[23:42] matey just in a really fucked up way
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[23:42] schestowitz-TR btw, lunduke self-nuked
[23:42] schestowitz-TR what did the mostn damage was,
[23:43] matey i hope he used a real nuke
[23:43] schestowitz-TR him going on covid rants
[23:43] matey and far enough away from civilians of course
[23:43] schestowitz-TR there is fallout
[23:43] schestowitz-TR anywaty, he isolated himself
[23:43] schestowitz-TR not much fallout
[23:43] matey lunduke will be back
[23:43] matey hes like china
[23:43] schestowitz-TR he deleted ltos of his accounts, even his writings and videos
[23:43] matey if you stop watching, it only gets worse
[23:44] matey his website is still up, surely
[23:44] schestowitz-TR techrights is a longtime survivor of these things
[23:44] schestowitz-TR they tried many times to cancel
[23:44] schestowitz-TR about 6 anti-Techrights web sites set up over the years
[23:44] schestowitz-TR reddit troll armies
[23:44] schestowitz-TR impersonstors etc
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[23:44] schestowitz-TR and yet we're still here
[23:45] matey even rms is still here
[23:45] matey hes just too quiet
[23:45] schestowitz-TR wikileaks got 'canceled' around 2017
[23:45] schestowitz-TR rms cannot be very prominent atm
[23:45] immibis matey: AGPL seems to address unbridled capitalism in practice, corporations don't even want to touch it with long sticks
[23:45] matey didnt wikileaks attack its own founder though?
[23:45] schestowitz-TR but he's still appreciated by the fsf board
[23:45] schestowitz-TR they just cannot say such stuff publicly as much anymore
[23:45] matey matey: AGPL seems to address unbridled capitalism in practice, corporations don't even want to touch it with long sticks <- immibis yes it does seem that way
[23:46] schestowitz-TR matey: no, wikileaks never attacked assange
[23:46] matey gpl used to accomplish that (still does to some degree)
[23:46] immibis btw the thing about irrelevant topics is that people with these opinions only talk in bad faith and will take over any venue that allows them
[23:46] matey matey: no, wikileaks never attacked assange <- not even some of them?
[23:46] schestowitz-TR some moles like "balls" who were inside wikileaks attacked assange
[23:46] schestowitz-TR and of course sigi the pedo from iceland
[23:46] immibis the old saying is that if you let nazis into your bar, soon you have a nazi bar
[23:46] schestowitz-TR he turned out to be an fbi mole
[23:46] matey btw the thing about irrelevant topics is that people with these opinions only talk in bad faith <- i dont agree, i believe there are exceptions
[23:46] matey immibis: but where it starts to become serious policy discussion (like with sfc right now) i agree
[23:47] matey and libreplanet too
[23:47] matey libreplanet is the avenue through which all this stuff marches straight into the fsf
[23:47] schestowitz-TR fwiw, the fsf colletively never attacked rms
[23:47] matey it will be its downfall
[23:47] schestowitz-TR only a few people in the board did
[23:47] schestowitz-TR they are no longer in the fsf
[23:47] schestowitz-TR mattl is also gone
[23:47] matey the fsf colletively never attacked rms <- thats true, but in a way that is almost untrue (its a technicality)
[23:48] matey they are no longer in the fsf <- i dont believe this, i dont think the evidence even shows it to be true
[23:48] schestowitz-TR they have no substantial hold on the FSF anyway
[23:48] schestowitz-TR they ruined themselves, too
[23:48] schestowitz-TR they thought being splinter groups would help them
[23:48] matey some of them will be back, mark my words.
[23:49] schestowitz-TR gnu guix brushed them aside
[23:49] schestowitz-TR (last year)
[23:49] matey that isnt even remotely true
[23:49] schestowitz-TR and mister googlgl-goo is trying to become a teacher now
[23:49] matey no one who betrayed rms via guix is gone
[23:49] schestowitz-TR because he had no credibility in the community
[23:49] schestowitz-TR only in sfc
[23:49] immibis matey: i don't think people talking about the SFC are nazis. people talking about black people being criminals are most likely proto-nazis
[23:49] matey and mister googlgl-goo <- this one is beyond my ability to guess who it is
[23:49] schestowitz-TR which is bascially in "cashing in" mode now (Salesforce, Gulag, Microsloth)
[23:50] schestowitz-TR matey: in guix they were 'demoted'
[23:50] matey matey: i don't think people talking about the SFC are nazis <- nor do i
[23:50] schestowitz-TR and it was made to seem wilful
[23:50] schestowitz-TR because it's better 'optics'
[23:50] matey matey: in guix they were 'demoted' <- ive seen zero evidence of this
[23:50] matey on the contrary, more recently ive seen the same people heading guix publicly
[23:51] matey where does it say they were demoted?
[23:51] matey the same people are still at the top / front / whatever
[23:51] schestowitz-TR go to their site
[23:51] schestowitz-TR some person called "ephraism" iirc was made a lead
[23:51] matey gnu.org/software/guix ?
[23:51] matey guix.org ?
[23:51] schestowitz-TR I will find it.
[23:52] schestowitz https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2022/gnu-guix-maintainer-rotation/
[23:52] TR Bot GNU Guix maintainer rotation 2022 Blog GNUGuix
[23:52] matey some person called "ephraism" iirc was made a lead <- my feeling is, this is similar to nat friedman stepping down from github
[23:52] schestowitz "For some time already, Ludovic and Marius have voiced their desire to step down from the Guix maintainers collective"
[23:52] matey its still github
[23:52] schestowitz yes, but not a new issue
[23:52] schestowitz "Efraim has demonstrated traits we value for a co-maintainer, such as good communication and collaboration abilities, values that align well with those of the GNU project and overall a person you'd like to hang out with at FOSDEM :-)."
[23:52] schestowitz I know nothing about him
[23:52] matey Efraim has demonstrated traits <- good to know, ill look into him
[23:53] schestowitz https://ci.guix.gnu.org/jobset/guix-master
[23:53] TR Bot guix-master
[23:53] matey of course gnome did the same thing
[23:53] schestowitz in-house CI
[23:53] matey and gnome always comes back for another backstab later
[23:53] matey no matter how many people step down
[23:53] schestowitz btw, mcgovern out
[23:53] schestowitz bully db out
[23:53] matey yeah i know
[23:53] schestowitz and their OSI sidekick
[23:53] matey and ballmer is gone from microsoft
[23:53] schestowitz carlo et al are chained by microsoft
[23:53] matey the angle i look at it from was this
[23:54] schestowitz and his friend stefanpo
[23:54] matey when neil and molly used gnome to attack free software
[23:54] schestowitz they are orgs in disarray
[23:54] matey the organisations did nothing
[23:54] schestowitz miles worse than fsf after the... aftermath
[23:54] matey when the worst leaders and traitors stepped down
[23:54] matey they quietly went back to business as usual
[23:54] schestowitz they are like russian tanks
[23:54] matey thats not good enough
[23:54] schestowitz fsf is kiev
[23:54] schestowitz and microsoft is pution
[23:54] schestowitz sending in armored vehicles and tanks
[23:54] schestowitz only to go up in flames
[23:55] schestowitz the metaphor involved dealth violence
[23:55] schestowitz so I would not 'meme' it
[23:55] matey gnome will never stop attacking us-- they even attack other free software projects
[23:55] schestowitz "the putin" (microsoft) thought it would be a quick triumph over fsf
[23:55] matey completely unrelated to neil and molly, theyre just really bad
[23:55] schestowitz and underestimated the pushback
[23:55] schestowitz ibm is in it too
[23:56] schestowitz and gulag of course
[23:56] schestowitz people are NOT dumb enough
[23:56] matey roy you write about reputation washing, greenwashing, openwashing
[23:56] schestowitz their lies-filled letter backfired
[23:56] matey this is resignationwashing
[23:56] schestowitz and said NOTHING about the real issues
[23:56] schestowitz matey: yes, that too
[23:56] schestowitz resignationwashing\
[23:56] schestowitz I like that
[23:56] matey what if kuhn steps down from sfc?
[23:56] schestowitz miguel de icazas is a recent one
[23:56] schestowitz 49 year old
[23:56] schestowitz to "spend time with family"
[23:57] schestowitz piff off
[23:57] schestowitz his kid is like 12 and goes to school
[23:57] schestowitz what's miguel going to do all day? eat cheetos?
[23:57] matey with his family
[23:57] matey little britain had a running sketch with a disgraced politician who kept giving speeches about spending more time with family
[23:57] schestowitz kuhn is one of two
[23:57] matey its such a cliche
[23:58] matey yeah and sandler
[23:58] schestowitz his brooklyn area sidekick has not much face-saving
[23:58] schestowitz except the "not being male" thing
[23:58] matey might as well throw in deb too
[23:58] DaemonFC If you resign you get a bigger severance package.
[23:58] schestowitz though I like her talks
[23:58] DaemonFC If we fire you, well....
[23:58] schestowitz DaemonFC: usually the opposite
[23:58] schestowitz so you try hard to compel them to fire you
[23:58] matey hitler turned nasty before his rise to power
[23:58] schestowitz and then pay compensation
[23:58] schestowitz depends wherew
[23:59] matey stalin turned nasty WITH his rise to power
[23:59] matey gradually
[23:59] matey as a result of it
[23:59] matey he wasnt a great guy to start with
[23:59] schestowitz linus is camera-shy
[23:59] matey but he wasnt a monster
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[23:59] schestowitz I will give you a chalolenge
[23:59] schestowitz find me the last time mtorvalds did a full interview with the press
[23:59] schestowitz I can barely think of us
[23:59] schestowitz not just answering one question over emil
[23:59] matey but the government became more important than its own purpose
[23:59] schestowitz but a full, proper interview