●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 18, 2022 ●● ● Apr 18 [00:01] TR News Software Patents: "The 942 patent relates to automatic file sharing across a distributed network." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged [00:01] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged [00:01] TR Bot Topia Technology patent challenged Unified Patents [00:04] TR News "The 257 patent relates to transmitting digital content from a mobile apparatus to a wireless output device and has been asserted against Roku." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged [00:04] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged [00:04] TR Bot Flexiworld patent challenged Unified Patents [00:06] *oarion7 has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [00:37] bnchs__ https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011 [00:37] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011 [00:37] TR Bot Security Update Guide - Microsoft Security Response Center [00:39] matey windows has an remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability called updates [00:39] matey which is exploited by microsoft [00:39] matey it hasnt been patched in a decade or more [00:41] matey windows ships with ransomware on fresh install [00:41] matey called drm [00:42] matey there are tools to fix it but theyre illegal [00:50] AltLink_c52c [:R] matey If you want to take the red pill torify everything on your router [00:50] AltLink_c52c [:R] then most of web will suddenly turn hostile to you [00:50] AltLink_c52c [:R] It may be hard to adapt at first if you are addict to those sites [00:50] AltLink_c52c [:R] but you will get used to it after some years later. [00:52] bnchs__ AltLink_c52c, why are you talking? [00:54] TR News "Incidentally, this fact is of course driving the centralization of email, because the one surefire way to ensure your email is not marked as spam is to have it delivered by Google, MS, Apple, etc." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-27-Email-thoughts.txt [00:54] matey /me giggles [00:54] matey it only talks to me, bnchs__ [00:55] matey /me has the magic [00:55] matey matey If you want to take the red pill torify everything on your router <- how is this different from browsing with tor browser in practical terms [00:57] AltLink_c52c [:R] bnchs__, why are you asking? ;-) [00:58] bnchs__ because aren't you supposed to be a bot [00:58] matey turns out the other thing is a bot [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 332.13 ● Apr 18 [01:00] AltLink_c52c [:R] The difference is just-a-browser or all-internet-session. [01:00] AltLink_c52c [:R] Browser /vs/ Everything(chat app, mail, etc) [01:00] matey i think you may overestimate the amount of internet-connected software i use [01:01] AltLink_c52c [:R] Both are bots - it is just.. sometimes the Synth use the Altlink_(4 letters here) account [01:01] matey although i should probably isolate my pdf reader just to be sure :) [01:01] TR News "Sometimes I need to convert some currencies but I don't want to have to go to my web browser luckily though tools like Forx exist to help me do exactly what I need for both fiat and cryptocurrencies." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdqk5Yu61YU [01:01] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=Sdqk5Yu61YU [01:01] TR Bot y.com.sb | Calculate Exchange Rates In The Terminal With ForX - Invidious [01:01] matey someone might know im reading an old sci classic on it [01:01] matey scifi [01:02] matey but actually i think i got that as epub and then unzipped it, so [01:02] TR News Linux 5.18-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163826 [01:03] TR Bot Linux 5.18-rc3 | Tux Machines [01:06] TR News Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163827 [01:06] TR Bot Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux and More | Tux Machines [01:06] TR News postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163828 [01:06] TR Bot postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 4 | Tux Machines [01:09] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:10] schestowitz-TR [00:58] because aren't you supposed to be a bot [01:11] schestowitz-TR bot can be hybrid [01:11] schestowitz-TR I can just echo something > ii path [01:11] schestowitz-TR and the bots would say "something"... [01:12] schestowitz-TR You can see how all the bots work by examining the source coed [01:12] schestowitz http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/ [01:13] TR Bot Gemini Proxy for Techrights [01:33] matey there really isnt enough science (or scientific attitude) in the free software movement [01:33] matey you dont need to throw ethics away to have science. you can start with the 4 freedoms as a requirement, for example [01:33] matey i think its clear enough that if you dont have the 4 freedoms its not free software [01:34] MinceR "upon blind faith they place reliance / what we need more of science!" [01:34] MinceR oops [01:34] MinceR "upon blind faith they place reliance / what we need more of is science!" [01:35] matey "if i had a million dollars, if i had a million dollars, i would buy you a k-car / a nice reliant automobile!" [01:36] matey but i mean, the copyleft / permissive thing is based on theory, and the theory should be something we could test and settle once and for all [01:36] matey this is just the most obvious example (to me) there are other examples where science could help free software [01:37] matey ive heard plenty of theories, and theyre worth considering [01:37] matey we also have a lot more data than we did in 1997 [01:38] matey but it would be nice to have a clearer understanding of the actual effects of gpl vs 3-clause bsd for example [01:39] matey because calling it a "pushover" license not only glosses over the intentions of some projects using it (which isnt really about what the phrase "pushover license" implies) [01:39] matey you might get more people writing a project LIKE GNU under a permissive license [01:40] matey i hate this lack of science on both sides of the argument-- its ASSUMED that people contribute more under a permissive license [01:40] matey id like to see this settled with facts and a broad and detailed assessment [01:40] matey which is either a job that would take a year or more, or a job that would take a dozen or more people [01:40] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [01:41] matey but no ones interested in doing this? [01:41] matey okay, lets just keep up the rah-rah-rah then [01:41] matey i mean there are clearly merits to both. and imo if you have a preference youre entitled to it [01:42] matey so you dont need to justify the choice-- only some of the claims already being made [01:42] matey itd be nice to see how much they hold up under scrutiny / inquiry [01:43] TR News EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/ [01:43] matey im actually doing research tangential to this, which may (eventually) shed some light on this, but a group of 5 people with the right methods could do a better job [01:43] TR Bot EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights [01:44] matey all my research builds several themes together, so any findings i come up with are going to be along several different axes [01:44] matey for example, my data will be useless to anyone who wants to see whether any of this applies to github, since im interested almost exclusively in things that ARENT on github [01:45] matey if its on github, youve already fucked up [01:45] matey solution: move from github [01:45] matey until they do that, im not very interested [01:45] matey people show me new software. its on github. i mostly pretend it doesnt exist [01:46] matey i spent 10 fucking years getting away from microsoft [01:46] matey theyre asking me to go back? fuck no [01:46] matey already left that cult [01:47] matey project on github: "we care about your freedom SORT OF" [01:47] matey youre open source, i get it (gnu project) [01:48] matey the direction copyleft is headed in worries me a little bit [01:48] matey on the one hand, theres (possibly fud) about how its too weak in any hands but those who wrote it to defend it [01:48] matey making it next to useless [01:48] matey on the other, theres "hope" about making it so anyone can defend it... [01:49] matey sounds a like a good thing! [01:49] matey but wait, copyright trolls are a thing [01:49] matey what if microsoft can defend gpl code it didnt write? [01:49] matey and forbid you from using it... [01:50] matey oh, youve been pretty good about including source code, but copyright is nasty, maybe theres some problem with something and [01:50] matey ah, now a lawsuit [01:50] matey if it wasnt for corporations like microsoft this would be an absurdist concern [01:50] matey if it werent for nasty little shits like copyright trolls this would be an absurdist concern [01:50] matey i dont think its absurd at all [01:52] matey this makes me wonder if permissive isnt a little safer at guaranteeing freedom 0 (note please that part of the reason rms went with copyleft is that he got fucked out of his own work using permissive-- back when these issues were MUCH less familiar to the public) [01:52] schestowitz-TR github is declining [01:52] schestowitz-TR copilot also [01:52] matey bullshit [01:52] schestowitz-TR in relative terms [01:52] matey yeah [01:52] schestowitz-TR maybe not absolute terms [01:52] schestowitz-TR but relative [01:52] matey realtive to significant terms [01:52] schestowitz-TR the market is being saturated [01:52] schestowitz-TR see skype in 2012 [01:53] schestowitz-TR versus 2022 [01:53] schestowitz-TR but we need to keep pushing people to RE-consider their code hosting [01:53] matey apples and orangutans [01:53] matey but we need to keep pushing people to RE-consider their code hosting <- yes [01:53] schestowitz-TR many people are hearing of github and start thinking [01:53] schestowitz-TR "err... not sure about this, what are the OTHER options" [01:53] schestowitz-TR and this is what we want [01:54] schestowitz-TR the youtube-dl debacle was good [01:54] schestowitz-TR and recent we showed 2000 other takedown this past year [01:54] matey sourcehut isnt really better though [01:54] schestowitz-TR microsoft obeys like 99% of them [01:54] matey the youtube-dl debacle was good <- i think you overestimate its impact [01:54] matey for one it wasnt the first of its kind [01:54] schestowitz-TR sourcehut is ok for some things [01:54] matey for another, they didnt move [01:54] schestowitz-TR I am not VERY familiar with it [01:54] schestowitz-TR but I checked about 100 projects in it [01:55] schestowitz-TR it's nice and simple [01:55] matey sourcehut, you stop paying they delete your repo [01:55] schestowitz-TR codeberg is... interestingh [01:55] matey they should just archive it. [01:55] matey whats wrong with codeberg? i dont pay it any attention yet [01:55] schestowitz-TR there's no "Free" hosting [01:55] matey i mean if somethings wrong with it i woudlnt know [01:55] schestowitz-TR at least they are HONEST [01:55] schestowitz-TR gulagtube is NOT "free" video hosting [01:55] matey there no free hosting with sourcehut either [01:55] schestowitz-TR many people realise this when it's too late [01:56] matey but sourcehut will delete your repo for non-payment [01:56] schestowitz-TR vimeo as well [01:56] schestowitz-TR sending $10,000 bills to poor orgs and people [01:56] schestowitz-TR matey: joindiapora zaps your account even when you DO pay [01:56] schestowitz-TR I paid every year [01:56] matey lol [01:56] matey diaspora is a farce [01:56] schestowitz-TR and still everything got taken down [01:57] schestowitz-TR I even offered to host the darn thing [01:57] matey fediverse is a scam [01:57] schestowitz-TR but had many second thoughts, without yet knowing how much of a mess the backend wa [01:57] schestowitz-TR *was [01:57] schestowitz-TR even the core diaspora project folks did not wish to maintain it [01:57] matey thats because they lost the best one [01:58] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/ [01:58] TR Bot Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights [01:58] schestowitz-TR it's not a scam either [01:58] matey also they probably looked at what they created and thought "shit, we cant create a flood!" [01:58] schestowitz-TR it's something that had a purpose at one point [01:58] schestowitz-TR and momentum [01:58] matey it's not a scam either <- well, none of the claims it makes are worth shit [01:58] schestowitz-TR but it outlived that purpose [01:58] schestowitz-TR society is moving on [01:59] matey it's something that had a purpose at one point <- no it had a goal [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 367.16 [01:59] matey it never met it [01:59] matey they still make the same bullshit promises [01:59] matey = scam [01:59] matey now im not blaming the original devs for that [01:59] matey just the people who promote it [01:59] matey theyre the ones who make it a scam ● Apr 18 [02:00] matey i mean the california gold rush wasnt a scam, but if you sold people tickets to go there now, it probably would be [02:00] matey lots of people actually got rich, it wasnt an mlm scheme [02:00] matey but i dont figure anyone is likely to have that sort of luck now [02:01] matey im sure any gold-rich land left is owned by someone [02:01] TR News [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/ [02:01] TR Bot [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights [02:02] matey diaspora talked about being able to IMPORT what you could export for like a decade [02:02] matey it takes them a decade to make a feature that was in the ORIGINAL brochure? cmon! [02:02] schestowitz-TR gold is also a "scam" [02:02] matey gold is a commodity. capitalism is a scam. [02:03] matey diamonds are a scam [02:03] matey theyre not worth what you pay for them, at all [02:03] matey the "value" is fucked with in a number of ways [02:04] matey this is why the gold / silver people, as far as i know, never say buy diamonds! [02:04] matey if youre smuggling wealth out of nazi germany, maybe diamonds are good for that :) [02:05] matey diamonds must be profitable if theyre stolen [02:05] schestowitz-TR no [02:05] schestowitz-TR they derive value from the brand they're tied to [02:05] schestowitz-TR de bohr [02:05] schestowitz-TR or whatever [02:05] schestowitz-TR cartier [02:05] matey there you go [02:05] schestowitz-TR a diamond on its own could be 'fake' [02:05] schestowitz-TR i.e. made in a factory [02:06] schestowitz-TR using the same process [02:06] schestowitz-TR but without the "brand" [02:06] matey i think theyre still pretty good at telling which is which [02:06] matey im not a diamond expert [02:06] schestowitz-TR like 'fake' so-called 'designer' bags [02:06] matey i do know their value is tampered with and more artificial than gold or silver [02:06] matey which im not promoting, only comparing [02:07] matey the designer bags, UNLIKE diamonds, more like bitcoin, DO go up in value [02:07] schestowitz-TR bitcoin is fakecoin for some purposes [02:07] schestowitz-TR very spculative [02:07] matey for how long do they go up in value? i mean, markets do come and go [02:07] matey so do stocks [02:08] matey if i bought a designer bag (im not in the market for one) it might outperform a stock with less risk [02:08] schestowitz-TR even when you buy something of value with it, you rely on another speculator taking it [02:08] schestowitz-TR unless the scheme collapses [02:08] matey but for how long? i dont know [02:08] matey yes, if it collapses then its worth whatever a collector... [02:08] matey just like any antique [02:08] schestowitz-TR cory doctorow envies my working Palm PDAs [02:09] matey im sure if he wanted a pda he could get someone to make one for him [02:09] schestowitz-TR some people sold working Macs from the 1980s [02:09] schestowitz-TR before they know Apple would become such an idiotic cult of suckers [02:09] matey if i were cory doctor and i wanted a pda id just go to the hackaday people and say "make me a pda please, i have money" [02:09] schestowitz-TR there's precursor from bunny huang [02:09] schestowitz-TR but it's no original Palm [02:10] matey there must be a "pi pilot" or something [02:10] matey i mean the touchscreens exist [02:10] matey the processors exist [02:10] matey even the batteriest exist [02:11] matey the thing is most people dont want a pda [02:11] matey this is a fact [02:11] schestowitz-TR not the same types [02:11] schestowitz-TR it's like saying [02:11] schestowitz-TR "make me a nintendo" [02:11] matey theyd want it to do more. a pda is mostly an offline device [02:11] matey you could just get a pine phone and never activate the network [02:12] schestowitz-TR and then they cobble together some arm or x86 processor [02:12] matey the palm brand isnt that strong [02:12] matey its got some classic value [02:12] schestowitz-TR and run an emulation layer [02:12] AdmFubar happy zombie jesus day to all! [02:12] matey and then they cobble together some arm or x86 processor <- but this is a good example [02:12] matey nintendo emulators have more of a market than any sort of pda [02:13] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: brainzzz! [02:13] matey there is an actual market for them [02:13] matey nintendo even sells a nintendo emulator! [02:13] matey and i mean its a little mini nintendo using a snapdragon chip [02:13] matey not the original hardware, less than 1/2 the size [02:13] matey emulates the original model [02:14] matey personally i never gave a shit about the 8-bit nitendo. ive certainly used one [02:14] matey we had an atari 2600 [02:14] schestowitz-TR sort of misses the point of sentimental value [02:14] matey sort of misses the point of sentimental value <- only for some [02:15] matey i mean there are two groups, theyre not at war really [02:15] matey its not like mac vs pc [02:15] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:15] matey some want the REALEST REAL REAL THING [02:15] matey for them an emulator is garbage [02:15] matey more people want an emulator that is reasonably close but doesnt look like shit on a wall-sized plasma screen, and the emulators are better for that [02:15] TR News "Josh and Kurt talk about a lot of security vulnerabilities in this months Patch Tuesday. Theres also a new Git vulnerability. This sparks the age old question of how fast to patch? The answer isnt binary, the right answer is whatever works best for you, not what someone tells you is best." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/04/17/episode-319-patch-tuesday-with-a-capital-t/ [02:15] TR Bot Episode 319 Patch Tuesday with a capital T Open Source Security [02:15] matey some are. others are shit of course. [02:16] matey roughly zero want a pda. im not saying those people dont exist [02:16] matey im saying if you want to make a homebrew project and sell it, a pda is a GOOD DESIGN but it probably wont be a viable business [02:16] schestowitz-TR that's just fashionable consumption [02:16] schestowitz-TR media tells people what they "want" [02:16] matey you know who would know more about that than i do? the owner of minifree. [02:16] schestowitz-TR and I don't care for what such media says [02:17] matey and I don't care for what such media says <- nor do i [02:17] matey but i know how many people i know want a pda, and its close to 0 [02:17] matey take myself for example [02:17] matey i had a COUPLE decent pdas [02:17] matey and i had fun playing with them. they were already obsolete when i got them [02:18] TR News The EPO inviting loads of software patents may lead to perceived growth, albeit only at the expense of or to the detriment of the patent applications or European Patents that are actually valid as per the EPC http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/ [02:18] TR Bot EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights [02:18] matey i used one as an mp3 player, a fancy one [02:18] matey the novelty wore off and i never miss the thing [02:18] TR News A couple of years after Benot Battistelli put an end to proper career contracts (rather than 5-year terms without real commitment from the EPO) Antnio Campinos is attacking the pensioners and the staff http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/ [02:18] TR Bot [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights [02:18] matey its just a trinket that doesnt do enough, which is mostly incompatible with the stuff i actually give a shit about [02:19] matey i think thats how most people feel about them [02:19] matey minus the handful of enthusiasts i know must exist [02:19] matey im sure you can find a club, this is not even sarcasm [02:20] psydruid pda user group [02:20] matey if i made it myself im sure id appreciate such a trinket a bit more [02:20] matey still not sure what i would do with it [02:20] matey pug [02:20] matey the thing is, ive carried netbooks around for years at a time before [02:20] matey netbooks are FAR MORE USEFUL to me vs a pda [02:20] matey 100 times over [02:21] matey but how often do i use it? [02:21] matey eh. [02:21] matey i used to take my computer to a coffee shop, the library [02:21] matey sometimes id even bring a monitor! [02:22] matey low power computer, big fucking screen [02:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:23] matey now when i go to the coffee shop i dont stay there [02:23] matey i go outside and drink my coffee [02:23] matey if i have a computer with me i probably dont do anything on it [02:23] matey and if i did, id be wiping the keys down with rubbing alcohol when i got home [02:24] matey along with much of the rest of the thing [02:24] matey 70% is actually great for cleaning lcd (dont use 90, it etches) [02:24] TR News My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/18/work-from-home-setup/ [02:24] TR Bot Blog Archive My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday) [02:25] matey and use isopropyl, dont use that wood shit [02:26] matey /me thinks about people who spend buckets of cash on fancy electronic cleaning products [02:26] matey isopropyl and paper towels / cotton swabs [02:26] schestowitz he's still going: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Templeton [02:26] TR Bot Brad Templeton - Wikipedia [02:27] matey who is he [02:27] schestowitz his site is still pretty much the same as 20 years ago https://www.templetons.com/brad/ [02:27] TR Bot Brad Templeton's Home Page [02:28] matey blogger? [02:28] schestowitz Old: https://www.templetons.com/brad/billg.html [02:28] TR Bot Bill Gates Wealth Index [02:29] matey /me debates making tea [02:29] matey i dont really need it, but its fucking delicious [02:30] matey this must be why decaf was invented (decaf is also a scam) [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:32] matey theres a thing you develop in your 40s that tells you to make responsible decisions about what you eat and drink [02:32] matey i think some people manage to drink or smoke it out of course [02:32] matey "you shouldnt eat this, its just sugar" *lights a cig* "carry on, then!" [02:33] matey i never thought id get this thing, but its telling me to just have oatmeal instead of tea [02:33] matey its like ive been possessed [02:33] matey i should hasten to note i dont actually HEAR it [02:33] matey "there are voices in my head, and they tell me to eat healthy" [02:33] matey "okay buddy, good luck with that" [02:34] matey "as long as thats all they tell you" [02:34] TR News "One of my earliest interactions with this protocol is solidly etched in my memory for all the wrong reasons. Back in 1994 or so I was a young teenager excitedly exploring the internet via various door software made available by my local BBS." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2020-05-13-Finger.txt [02:35] matey of course if i want to just eat 5 chocolate bars right now, theres nothing stopping me [02:36] matey its just that instead, i find myself agreeing with this "thing", like "sure, whatever-- oatmeal is fine" [02:36] matey fuckin weird [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170422.txt [02:36] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 17, 2022 [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[03:02] TR News All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/ [03:02] TR Bot All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights [03:03] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 205396 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40211 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 8 days ago [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 3.0 GB TotalOut: 639 MB [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:07] IPFS QmXiBYqvHTZ9Dm3RPw96UD2o4V4bhgfEZQZj8ds3Wawmnm [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:22] matey will smith has been banned for 10 years from the oscars [03:22] matey is he also banned from lieplanet? [03:25] matey i mean separate-but-equal planet [03:25] matey because there were two this year, but they were both equal [03:26] matey all public fsf events are now lieplanet actually [03:26] matey theyll rebrand as the lsf any day now [03:32] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[04:06] matey i think 1.5 tonnes should be referred to as a "shittertonne" [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 244.38 ● Apr 18 [05:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:29] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:51] *matey has quit (connection closed) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 300.45 ● Apr 18 [06:48] *l0de has quit (*.net *.split) [06:49] AltLink_c52c radscan.CatHub.got= 'Cloudflare infamously provides one-click solution for treating visitors connecting over Tor as second-class citizens' [06:49] *l0de (sid31830@ilkley.irccloud.com) has joined #techrights [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.30 k/sec., IPFS upstream 49.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 389.40 ● Apr 18 [07:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [07:43] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 73.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 234.03 ● Apr 18 [08:03] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, April 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:03] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [08:03] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:03] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:03] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [08:05] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@w2rtns4b5i8dq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:05] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:06] *activelow (~activelow@d4f6rigi2emqn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:08] TR News "Unfortunately, GEM/XM never made it to market. Luckily, we now have the source code for it" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version | Source: Bryan Lunduke [08:08] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version [08:08] TR Bot FreeGEM/XM -- The open source version of the unreleased, multi-tasking GEM [08:10] TR News "The problem that all Unix distributions face sooner or later is that the people using them generally want the platonic ideal version" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions | Source: uni Toronto [08:10] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions [08:10] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions [08:10] TR News "After a long and continuous period of tests and development, we are happy to announce a new release of Hyperbola GNU/Linux" https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/04/16/milky-way-v0-4-release/ | Source: Neritam [08:10] TR Bot Milky Way v0.4 release neritam [08:11] TR News "For the technologically inclined, trying out new operating systems can be an adventure." https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/ | Source: Kim Kommando [08:11] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: komando.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/ [08:11] TR Bot alternative operating system is easier than Windows and Apple - Komando.com [08:12] TR News "While Ubuntu technically came into existence during 2004 it was barely a blip on the radar." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive | Source: Bryan Lunduke [08:12] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive [08:12] TR Bot Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and that's ok) [08:14] TR News "An advisory from developer Damien Miller said the new release, OpenSSH 9.0, switched scp, the secure copy tool which is part of the app" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html | Source: IT Wire [08:14] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html [08:14] TR Bot - New OpenSSH version uses stronger key-exchange mechanism by default [08:15] TR News "That said, Im not sure to what extent this will continue: even if the source code to Firefox and the tooling that supports it is technically open source" https://wrla.ch/blog/2022/04/90-days-out-and-in/ | Source: Wrlach [08:15] TR Bot 90 days out and in [08:16] TR News "The flexible/tinker-able nature of GNU+Linux is one of the reasons I use this over Windows, iOS or MacOS." https://polarhive.ml/blog/how-i-do-my-computing/ | [08:16] TR Bot How I do my computing on GNU/Linux - polarhive [08:16] TR News "So here I am, writing simple APIs for myself with Glitch: request, handler, response" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/having-fun-writing-apis-with-glitch/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [08:16] TR Bot Having Fun Writing APIs With Glitch - Jim Nielsens Blog [08:17] TR News "I threw together a small R package {pubcheck} to check local keys, keys in a character vector, and keys residing in [garbage]" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/ | Source: Rlang [08:17] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r-bloggers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/ [08:17] TR Bot Those SSH Keys Safe | R-bloggers [08:24] TR News Windows TCO: "without any sign, the hard drive or SSD moves south. The problem is that you havent backed up to SpyDrive," https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/ | [08:24] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: technewsinc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/ [08:24] TR Bot How to recover Windows files using Linux Live USB [08:24] TR News Windows TCO: "The flaw in question, CVE-2022-26809, an RPC Runtime Library Remote Code Execution Vulnerability, was given a CVSS rating of 9.8" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html | Source: IT Wire [08:24] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html [08:24] TR Bot - Doubts over mitigation advice for Microsoft remotely exploitable flaw [08:24] TR News Windows TCO: "That combination makes the discovery of the system, dubbed Pipedream by industrial control security experts Dragos" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/ | Source: The Washington Post [08:24] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/ [08:24] TR News "I accidentally deleted half the data in a stupid blunder which I will never forgive myself for" https://blog.bithole.dev/mcmap.html | [08:25] TR Bot Suspected Russian malware's likely target was LNG facilities - The Washington Post [08:25] TR Bot A Census of Minecraft Servers [08:25] TR News Windows TCO: https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/oil-india-cyberattack-ib-central-cyber-security-agencies-join-probe/90903148 | Source: India Times [08:25] TR Bot Ib & Central Cyber Security Agencies Join Probe Into Oil Ransomware Attack, CIO News, ET CIO [08:25] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [08:25] SomeH4x0r .dev domain is affected by actual CA censorship already btw [08:26] TR News IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/irc-log-170422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/irc-log-170422/ [08:26] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 17, 2022 | Techrights [08:26] *Despatche_ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [08:26] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [08:27] TR News "The information requests, which were first reported by the Washington Post, come after backlash to the IRS' plan" https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/house-letter-idme | Source: Protocol [08:27] TR Bot wants records from facial-recognition company ID.me - Protocol [08:28] TR News "Video conferencing apps (VCAs) make it possible for previously private spaces -- bedrooms, living rooms, and kitchens" https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.06128 | Source: arXiv [08:28] TR Bot [2204.06128] Are You Really Muted?: A Privacy Analysis of Mute Buttons in Video Conferencing Apps [08:33] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: can you expand on what you mean by that? [08:33] SomeH4x0r forced HSTS preload (https://hstspreload.org), and so the big browsers will reject anything not signed by CA with no option to proceed [08:33] TR Bot HSTS Preload List Submission [08:34] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@gbgr2jcp6yrt2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:34] SomeH4x0r http:// is forcibly upgraded to https:// as well [08:34] TR Bot not resolve host: is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// is ) [08:34] TR Bot not resolve host: as; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// as ) [08:35] schestowitz-TR censorship agenda in "security" clothing? [08:35] SomeH4x0r yes [08:35] schestowitz-TR CAs can revoke ceritifcates [08:36] TR News "If you have been lucky enough to reach the city center without needing an ambulance or getting a police ticket" https://today.rtl.lu/your-luxembourg/your-voice/a/1899532.html | Source: RTL [08:36] TR Bot RTL Today - Your Voice: The mystery of the disappearing bike lanes [08:36] TR News "Eldorado.gg is a marketplace that gives users access to a wide variety of games with heavily discounted prices and perks" https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4451560 | Source: Taiwan News [08:36] TR Bot Gaming marketplace enables in-game item trading with Dogecoin crypto wallet | Taiwan News | 2022-02-22 16:40:00 [08:36] SomeH4x0r is it possible Let's Encrypt will stop issuing free (price) certificates, at least automatically, after the evil system is fully established? [08:37] SomeH4x0r fuck in-game items. Don't waste money. [08:37] schestowitz-TR the problem is not the price [08:37] schestowitz-TR the problem is that they gain a lot of control [08:37] schestowitz-TR and they're controlled by plutocrats and pentagon companies [08:38] SomeH4x0r I mean so that every webmaster will have to go through a manual validation process just to be able to host a website at all [08:38] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:38] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: it complicates things [08:38] schestowitz-TR so people will end up outsourcing [08:38] schestowitz-TR that leads to centralisation [08:38] schestowitz-TR which in turn helps censorship and propaganda [08:39] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D563.jpg [08:39] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D206.jpg [08:41] TR News "So I can't say a lot at the moment but, well, I have a new job that's going to be combining a lot of math, generative art, and coding for the community college. I'm being hired on part time for now leading into a full-time position as soon as the new position is created." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-17-newjob.gmi [08:42] TR News Microsoft and fraud always find each others: "Activision Blizzard is cooperating with a federal lawsuit and investigation into suspected insider trading" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter [08:42] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/ [08:42] TR Bot Activision Blizzard Cooperating With Investigation Into Alleged Insider Trades The Hollywood Reporter [08:43] TR News "This is gutter politics at its lowest." https://text.npr.org/1093189740 | Source: NPR [08:43] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1093189740 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1093189740 [08:43] TR Bot Fake sexual material targets the only woman running for president in the Philippines [08:49] TR News "Franois spoke on a panel with Karrie Karahalios, a computer science professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast [08:49] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/ [08:49] TR Bot Researcher: Algorithms Cannot Be Blamed for Disinformation, But They Contribute to It : Broadband Breakfast [08:49] TR News "Which is to say Martin uses DNS data but is not as expert as a number of the possible witnesses at trial" https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler [08:49] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: emptywheel.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/ [08:49] TR Bot John Durham Continues to Hide How Michael Sussmann Helped Kill the NYT Story - emptywheel [08:49] TR News "India continues to rank among the top 10 countries to have imprisoned the most number of writers and journalists" https://qz.com/india/2155462/india-ranks-with-china-and-saudi-arabia-for-poor-freedom-of-write/ | Source: Quartz [08:49] TR Bot India ranks with China and Saudi Arabia for poor freedom to write Quartz India [08:50] TR News "Russias independent journalists are taking desperate measures to continue working" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs | Source: The Sunday Times UK [08:50] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs [08:50] TR Bot Censorship forces Russian paper to publish abroad | News | The Times [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 278.43 [08:59] TR News "Speaking on Bloomberg TV, journalist Spencer Soper described problems with the Amazon drone design." https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/ | [08:59] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: retailwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/ [08:59] TR Bot Amazon have to ground its drone program? RetailWire ● Apr 18 [09:01] TR News "What are the options you have for securing your workpiece to the drill press table? [Rex Krueger] shows us that theres plenty" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/drill-press-piece-fastening-101/ | Source: Hackaday [09:01] TR Bot Press Piece Fastening 101 | Hackaday [09:10] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:13] *matey (~matey@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:14] matey well i found the quote at least schestowitz schestowitz-TR [09:14] matey schestowitz-TR fixosdev was pulling his hair out (metaphorically) over anything with github DEPENDENCIES [09:14] matey schestowitz-TR which means almost everything [09:14] matey http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120821.html [09:14] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 12, 2021 [09:14] schestowitz-TR OK, I said metaphorically [09:15] matey well duh [09:15] matey i mean how else is that phrase used [09:15] matey the thing is youre implying that concern over dependencies is absurd or something [09:15] schestowitz-TR no [09:15] matey when really, there are two REALLY GOOD reasons to follow that information [09:16] schestowitz-TR but reading between the lines might lead to such a conclusion [09:16] SomeH4x0r https://kill-9.xyz/guides/distrust_cloudflare is it useful? Does it have any other intermediates? [09:16] TR Bot guides - distrust cloudflare [09:16] schestowitz-TR yes, it's important to understand what happens [09:16] matey if by reading between the lines you mean "intepreting that phrase the way its basically always intended" then sure [09:16] SomeH4x0r hi matey also [09:16] matey hi [09:16] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: clownflare is a dirty bomb [09:16] schestowitz-TR and they lose money [09:16] matey but the two reaslly good reasons are: [09:16] schestowitz-TR so you know they will become evil, very evil, soon [09:16] matey 1. the POINT of course, is that yes, its basically everything [09:17] schestowitz-TR not sure if they'll start charging everyone or something worse [09:17] matey 2. if im trying to recommend the LEAST github-encumbered software, that information helps quantify how encumbered it is or isnt [09:17] matey or if youre trying to predict the projects most likely to move there soon (as projects that have a lot of gh deps often move there eventually) [09:18] matey basically "theyre on gh or theyre not" is not very fine grained [09:18] schestowitz-TR it'll blow up [09:18] schestowitz-TR it already does [09:18] schestowitz-TR but too slowly [09:18] schestowitz-TR if Microsoft tries to manipulate too much, staff and projects walk away [09:18] matey id ask if youre referring to clownflare or gh but since you make the same argument for basically anything negative, theres little pint [09:18] schestowitz-TR if not, they carry on losing money [09:19] matey at which point any project that isnt actively maintained could simply disappear forever. [09:19] schestowitz-TR clownflare and GH are similar in tihis regard [09:19] schestowitz-TR they lose money [09:19] schestowitz-TR they offer a fake, worthless, "service" [09:19] schestowitz-TR and people do not really need them [09:19] schestowitz-TR and if they start charging, people will leave [09:19] matey so even if active projects escape github after its collapse [09:19] matey theyre still going to wipe out decades of history. [09:19] schestowitz-TR right [09:20] schestowitz-TR like Linux pre-git [09:20] schestowitz-TR it's the projects' fault [09:20] schestowitz-TR they chose proprietary software [09:20] schestowitz-TR with NO EXPORT OPTION [09:20] schestowitz-TR except for git tree [09:21] matey when github collapses its going to be a fucking mess [09:21] matey for free software [09:21] schestowitz-TR yes [09:21] schestowitz-TR but... [09:21] matey ive always tried to figure out how much stuff is there [09:21] schestowitz-TR even without Microsoft [09:21] schestowitz-TR remember when Ton from Blender said [09:21] matey based on the fsd id say its more than 50% of our software [09:21] schestowitz-TR >50% might be OK [09:21] schestowitz-TR as it used to be HIGHER [09:22] schestowitz-TR a LOT higher [09:22] schestowitz-TR like 3 years ago [09:22] matey 90% is more than 50% [09:22] schestowitz-TR many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab [09:22] schestowitz-TR they don't fancy microsoft [09:22] SomeH4x0r One evil with Blender I know is that it now requires OpenGL version above the one my device supports, and it didn't in before. [09:22] schestowitz-TR except very dumb or bribed projects [09:22] matey many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab <- well, about that... [09:22] matey every month the fsd gets new links approved [09:23] matey maybe dozens [09:23] matey about half a dozen of which are not github-based [09:23] matey so [09:23] matey the ratio isnt changing like you say, if the fsd is any indicator [09:23] schestowitz-TR how many of these projects are new? [09:24] schestowitz-TR as in, past 3 years? [09:24] matey thats a fair question [09:24] matey probably most, since the links are being updated BUT [09:24] schestowitz-TR it's the "fresh blood" argument" [09:24] matey not all, and not a [09:24] matey well its your: "many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab" [09:24] schestowitz-TR about generations that are "next" having to be judged as "the future" [09:24] matey i think youre sugar-coating this [09:24] schestowitz-TR not really [09:25] schestowitz-TR when I first saw github things more than 10 years ago github was considered benign [09:25] matey ok, let me put it another way: i think youre making up progress that doesnt exist. [09:25] schestowitz-TR and many people saw it like twitter [09:25] schestowitz-TR "yay! free hosting!" [09:25] schestowitz-TR matey: ok, let's look at it from anotrher angle [09:25] schestowitz-TR they lost a lot of staff [09:25] schestowitz-TR even CEO [09:25] schestowitz-TR Windows market share is collapsing [09:26] schestowitz-TR and Azure did not live up to very old promises [09:26] matey mmhmm [09:26] schestowitz-TR they're losing development [09:26] schestowitz-TR and developers [09:26] schestowitz-TR 3 years after buying github where are they? [09:26] schestowitz-TR do people develop more for Windows? [09:26] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:26] schestowitz-TR I heard rumours from near github [09:26] schestowitz-TR that github was failing as the goal was to integrate with azur [09:26] schestowitz-TR to sell subscriptions to clown [09:27] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] TR News "For the electronic badge enthusiast, these last two years have seen something of a famine." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/the-555-gives-the-carolinacon-badge-life/ | Source: Hackaday [09:28] TR Bot 555 Gives The CarolinaCon Badge Life | Hackaday [09:28] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:29] matey the other thing thats bad of course [09:29] matey they chose proprietary software <- [09:29] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [09:29] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] matey the sheer apathy on the part of of so-called "free software" developers [09:30] schestowitz-TR there are many psyche types [09:30] matey 16 by jungs debunked model (i still like it though) [09:30] schestowitz-TR the hardcore free software people aren't the same as FSD [09:30] schestowitz-TR (Directory) [09:31] matey systemd-fsd [09:31] matey thats another thing though [09:31] schestowitz-TR if you look at the core GNU projects, a small proportion of them are themselves fully in github [09:31] schestowitz-TR they depend on some [09:31] matey ive been through a fuckload of gnu projects, looking up github accounts for admins [09:31] schestowitz-TR then you have gulag with quite a few of its own repos [09:31] schestowitz-TR ICBM also [09:31] schestowitz-TR Intel was infiltrated [09:32] schestowitz-TR so instead of in-house gitlab (like it used to be) they outsource to Microsoft [09:32] matey if you look at the core GNU projects, a small proportion of them are themselves fully in githu <- well, i mean [09:32] schestowitz-TR we published leaks to that effect [09:32] matey bison is necessary for a LOT of things [09:33] schestowitz-TR even gnome and kde make their own instances [09:33] matey the most core stuff for gnu is controlled by ibm [09:33] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:33] matey gnome isnt even free software [09:33] schestowitz-TR there, many of the shithubbers are Gulag Summer of Labour interns [09:33] schestowitz-TR and even that is no longer the case, most of them learn the CIs of the projects [09:33] matey sourceware.org [09:34] schestowitz-TR credit to them, at least they made their own instance [09:34] schestowitz-TR eventually [09:34] matey red hat did, ibm bought it [09:34] schestowitz-TR when it comes to distros, it's usually the smaller ones outsourcing [09:34] schestowitz-TR for financial reasons, I guess [09:35] matey and im going to guess sourceware predates the github purchase (2018) if not github itself (2008) [09:35] schestowitz-TR IBM does some of its code hosting internally [09:35] schestowitz-TR some via GNU [09:35] schestowitz-TR some of the older stuff is shithub [09:35] schestowitz-TR but even fedora is changing the direction [09:35] matey when theyre not a hostage in a lawsuit [09:36] matey i mean i dont think fedora sued pocock anymore than fedora has its own building [09:36] matey so they were probably helpless there [09:37] matey or maybe they said to ibm "dad! the mean debian guy is being mean to me, have your lawyers beat him up" [09:37] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/ [09:37] TR Bot Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) | Techrights [09:37] matey there you go [09:38] matey heres something fun https://fsfellowship.news/contact/ [09:38] TR Bot Contact/Mailing list [09:38] matey "You are encouraged to meet other fellows at a free software event or use the Fellowship mailing list" links to https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion [09:38] TR Bot not resolve host: lists.fsfellowship.eu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion ) [09:38] matey dead for like 2 weeks [09:38] matey maybe more [09:39] matey unannounced i think [09:39] matey not saying its a huge loss, just interesting (imo) [09:39] TR News "More than ten years after Megaupload was shut down, the RIAA and MPA are still waiting for their chance to request damages" https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:39] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/ [09:39] TR Bot Megaupload Lawsuits Get Assigned to Ninjavideo Judge * TorrentFreak [09:39] matey first it was public, then it was private, now its not even archived [09:40] matey and no one can join unless... actually im not sure they can join at all [09:41] matey but it was up when he announced the fedora url verdict [09:41] TR News You're Muted... or are You? Videoconferencing Apps May Listen Even When Mic is Off - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/16/0110219 Source: soylentnews [09:41] TR Bot You're Muted... or are You? Videoconferencing Apps May Listen Even When Mic is Off - SoylentNews [09:42] schestowitz-TR you could say it was a failedx experiment like fossforce [09:42] schestowitz-TR which ended up as a PR front for corporationsd [09:42] schestowitz-TR shilling for those it was supposed to be a force against [09:42] matey wait, pocock was a pr front for corporations? [09:42] schestowitz-TR no [09:43] matey oh you mean it simply failed [09:43] SomeH4x0r I doubt computers in their current state can serve for people (not for corporations) no matter what regime there is [09:43] SomeH4x0r they are too complex and have to be manufactured by corporations, which do abuse their privileged position [09:43] matey we need free hardware [09:44] SomeH4x0r also idk if real revolutions are possible anymore because of this. Most people are addicted to their crippled PCs called "smartphones". [09:44] matey people used to think it was impossible to treat alcoholism [09:45] matey that was the medical opinion of the day until alcoholics anonymous was formed [09:46] matey or at least the hard cases [09:46] mjg59_ Pocock set up democratic elections for the transitioning of the fsfellowship to a committee and then refused to give them access to the website [09:46] matey where people start shaking when they come off it [09:46] TR News Its Still Stupidly, Ridiculously Difficult To Buy A Dumb TV - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/16/1052254 Source: soylentnews [09:46] TR Bot Its Still Stupidly, Ridiculously Difficult To Buy A Dumb TV - SoylentNews [09:47] matey Pocock set up democratic elections for the transitioning of the fsfellowship to a committee and then refused to give them access to the website <- im familiar with this [09:47] SomeH4x0r I have a dumb TV but an evil receiver, I guess [09:47] SomeH4x0r because these evildoers removed analog TV [09:48] mjg59_ So I don't think it's fair to claim that fsfellowship.eu was a failed experiment - it was driven by an individual more focused on himself than the community he claimed he represented [09:48] matey "it was driven by an individual more focused on himself than the community he claimed he represented" this is probably a reasonable claim given my experience with pocock [09:48] TR News "Electromagnetic interference problems can be a real headache to debug." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/measuring-electromagnetic-fields-with-just-an-arduino-and-a-piece-of-wire/ | Source: Hackaday [09:48] TR Bot Electromagnetic Fields With Just An Arduino And A Piece Of Wire | Hackaday [09:49] TR News "At their best, laptops are a compromise design" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/laptop-usb-c-charging-hack-lets-you-leave-the-brick-at-home/ | Source: Hackaday [09:49] TR Bot USB-C Charging Hack Lets You Leave The Brick At Home | Hackaday [09:49] matey though its probably true of 95% of the movement at this point [09:49] TR News "The first PCBs we built involved a draftsman laying out large pieces of tape." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/kicad-plugin-gives-your-pcbs-that-handmade-look/ | Source: Hackaday [09:49] TR Bot Plugin Gives Your PCBs That Handmade Look | Hackaday [09:49] matey the main thing holding it together is hubris and wishful thinking [09:49] matey id compare it to iraq post saddam [09:51] matey i believe free software is absolutely necessary, the alternative is people being controlled by tech companies [09:51] matey just that people who really give a shit about that seem to be a small minority [09:53] matey idk if real revolutions are possible anymore because of this <- your concept of a real revolution is probably shaped by misconceptions [09:54] TR News "Tea really is a great thing. When one speaks of self-reliance and homesteading my first thought is "I could never grow enough tea for my own consumption."" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-18-i-guess-i-m-mr-tea.gmi [09:54] matey however thats true for most people [09:55] matey my guess is this has stalled for now http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/ [09:55] TR Bot Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) | Techrights [09:55] TR News "After decades of Ubuntu use, I've replaced my desktop OS with antiX." gemini://tobykurien.com/microblog.gmi [09:57] TR News New Releases of Unifont and GNU Mailutils Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163829 [09:57] TR Bot New Releases of Unifont and GNU Mailutils | Tux Machines [09:57] TR News 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 17th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163830 [09:57] TR Bot 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 17th, 2022 | Tux Machines [09:57] TR News Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163831 [09:57] TR Bot Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines [09:58] TR News Review: postmarketOS on the PinePhone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163832 [09:58] TR Bot Review: postmarketOS on the PinePhone | Tux Machines [09:58] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163833 [09:58] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:58] matey pocock doesnt seem to give a shit about anyone using his mailing list [09:58] matey he hasnt said anything about it, complete radio silence [09:59] matey he runs several websites, its been weeks, he doesnt bother mentioning it ● Apr 18 [10:00] schestowitz-TR matey: yes, fedora has not said much about the self-hosting thing [10:00] schestowitz-TR but I don't suppose it has been abandoned either [10:01] matey it would be tricky for fedora to do anything [10:02] matey whenever they seem to have an idea, ibm says something like "fuck you-- cough cough im sorry, allergies" [10:03] matey i mean its admirable to try to leave github [10:03] matey they should leave ibm too [10:03] matey i suppose theyll have to leave the trademark with ibm, im not sure who owns that one [10:04] matey Note that this agreement is between Red Hat, Inc., which owns the Fedora trademarks and administers them on behalf of the entire community, and the owner or potential owner of a particular domain that uses the Fedora trademark in its name to identify it with the Fedora community, distribution, or Project. [10:04] matey yep. [10:04] matey that figures, since ibm sued pocock over it [10:05] matey i feel confident the project itself didnt instigate that [10:05] matey the fedora logo looks a bit like a couple of nooses now [10:05] matey #fedoradidntkillitself [10:09] matey Ironically, the origins of the name "Red Hat" can be traced to Cornell itself. The company took its name from a red Cornell lacrosse team hat that was owned by founder Mark Ewing's grandfather, Webbink said.-- https://www.computerworld.com/article/2573687/researchers-dispute-red-hat-s-fedora-trademark.html [10:09] TR Bot dispute Red Hat's Fedora trademark | Computerworld [10:09] matey 19-year-old article? [10:11] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [10:14] matey The term "fedora" first emerged in the early 1890s, when it was connected with a play titled Fdora in which the famous cross-dressing actress Sarah Bernhardt wore a creased, soft felted hat. Until the point, soft felt hats were mostly worn by lower- and middle-class men who likely owned only one hat that needed to be multi-purpose. [10:15] TR News "Long term support" Unixes and versions of software in them Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163834 [10:15] TR Bot "Long term support" Unixes and versions of software in them | Tux Machines [10:15] TR News Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and thats ok) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163835 [10:15] TR Bot Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and that's ok) | Tux Machines [10:15] TR News Security and Proprietary Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163836 [10:15] TR Bot Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines [10:15] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [10:17] AltLink_c52c [:R] Speaking of GitHub did you noticed GH started blocking some Tor exits? [10:17] AltLink_c52c [:R] Try opening this link in Tor Browser: https://docs.github.com/en/rest/reference/issues [10:17] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://docs.github.com/en/rest/reference/issues ) [10:17] AltLink_c52c [:R] Title: Microsoft, Body: The request is blocked. [10:17] AltLink_c52c [:R] Rotate the circuit if not blocked. [10:18] schestowitz-TR Tor is criminals, said a company of criminals [10:20] AltLink_c52c [:R] I plant, seed and distribute quite a lot of onionsites. I am a bad bad person you might guess lol [10:21] TR News [10:21] TR News Nice the hostnames https://netsplit.de/networks/status.php?net=freenode [10:21] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:22] TR News Twitter continues to present me with a fake number of impressions. Twitter is FAKE. This hasn't changed since http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/ [10:22] TR Bot Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights [10:23] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HSImTOMYUrM [10:23] TR Bot Miami Sound Machine - Bad Boy 1986 (official video) - Invidious [10:25] matey i had no idea she sang that [10:26] matey /me is pretty sure cats doesnt count as furries, but not completely sure [10:27] TR News In a nutshell, if you spend a lot of time in front of a computer, then investing a little time every week or every month optimising it for ever-changing workflows is worth the investment. Adding additional hardware is also more economic if you value time. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/18/work-from-home-setup/ [10:27] TR Bot Blog Archive My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday) [10:36] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:37] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vghs59im6iux8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:40] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163837 [10:40] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:43] *GNUmoon has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:43] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@vghs59im6iux8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:43] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:47] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [10:50] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@4ebk9724jjdmq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:51] TR News Links 17/04/2022: Linux 5.18 RC3 and postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/linux-5-18-rc3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/linux-5-18-rc3/ [10:51] TR Bot Links 17/04/2022: Linux 5.18 RC3 and postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 4 | Techrights [10:52] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163838 [10:52] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:53] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:53] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@xbduyz4e2h7j6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:54] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Apr 18 [11:05] TR News Linux for Smartphones Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163839 [11:05] TR Bot Linux for Smartphones | Tux Machines [11:05] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163840 [11:05] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [11:06] TR News This minutes-old screenshot shows that only ~3 out of 10 machines accessing Web sites run Windows; there are many caveats here, surely, but the trend is rather telling (tailspin) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/ [11:06] TR Bot All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights [11:12] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:12] *activelow (~activelow@mmg5z3yijp9ug.irc) has joined #techrights [11:23] TR News Archman 2022.04 is out https://archman.org/ [11:23] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: archman.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://archman.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://archman.org/ [11:23] TR Bot Archman GNU/Linux [11:25] TR News Why does CNX push Windows crap? Also, the battery cannot possibly last long. This is a trap. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/ [11:25] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/ [11:25] TR Bot 7-inch tablet with Intel Atom Z3735G processor sells for $55 - CNX Software [11:27] TR News "Has Fedora pulled ahead of Ubuntu? We take a look at the new Fedora 36 and Ubuntu 22.04 releases." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/ [11:27] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/ [11:27] TR Bot Double Distro Details | LINUX Unplugged 454 | Jupiter Broadcasting [11:35] *bnchs (~bnchs@iisy9mynewsni.irc) has joined #techrights [11:55] TR News Well, it would be a mistake for the "main" Linux to use something controlled by Microsoft (criminals) proprietary software https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct [11:55] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct [11:55] TR Bot 15 Lands Support To Randomize Structure Layout, Linux Prepares To Use It - Phoronix ● Apr 18 [12:00] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163841 [12:00] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:03] TR News ICBM effect? "The project is transitioning to community development and support as part of the JBoss Tools project. This article breaks down all the information you need to know along with the future roadmap." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/18/announcement-red-hat-codeready-studio-reaches-end-life [12:03] TR Bot Announcement: Red Hat CodeReady Studio reaches end of life | Red Hat Developer [12:05] TR News Management as a barrier. Ask ICBM... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/middle-management-frozen [12:05] TR Bot Is your middle management freezing progress? 4 ways to empower change | The Enterprisers Project [12:09] TR News Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163842 [12:09] TR Bot Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 375.88 [12:12] TR News Malware on the clown. Well, sophos itself makes malicious software. Now in the clown... https://www.telecompaper.com/news/sophos-upgrades-sophos-cloud-workload-protection--1421321 [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Telecompaper [12:13] TR News Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/JUJV6BEJAXK5LATTSWGRFZDIAVM7KN4J/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ [12:13] TR Bot Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal? - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists [12:13] TR Bot IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights [12:14] TR News 3 open source tools for people with learning difficulties | Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163843 [12:14] TR Bot 3 open source tools for people with learning difficulties | Opensource.com | Tux Machines [12:14] TR News [PATCH v2 0/4] virtio-crypto: Improve performance - zhenwei pi https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220418090051.372803-1-pizhenwei@bytedance.com/ Source: bytedance [12:14] TR Bot [PATCH v2 0/4] virtio-crypto: Improve performance - zhenwei pi [12:15] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:16] TR News AAEON needs to quit using back-doored hardware... https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/pico-tgu4-semi-is-a-tiger-lake-mini-pc-for-robotics-and-industrial-iot-applications/ [12:16] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/pico-tgu4-semi-is-a-tiger-lake-mini-pc-for-robotics-and-industrial-iot-applications/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/pico-tgu4-semi-is-a-tiger-lake-mini-pc-for-robotics-and-industrial-iot-applications/ [12:16] TR Bot PICO-TGU4-SEMI is a Tiger Lake mini PC for robotics and industrial IoT applications - CNX Software [12:18] TR News During the invasion by Russia we saw: 1) how the US can (AND WILL) misuse its control over the Internet. 2) the dangers of centralisation (e.g. the CA "trust" cartel). 3) how dangerous the clown computing lunacy really is. 4) nations should shun proprietary software, for defensive (back doors) and autonomy reasons [12:19] TR News Thinking social control media protects the masses from abuse of power is conventionality forgetting who owns and controls such platforms [12:20] TR News Activists with Microsoft Windows on their PCs will never get far; it's like cops with swords instead of batons http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/putin-loves-windows/ [12:20] TR Bot Putins Russia Loves It When Its Enemies Use Microsoft Windows | Techrights [12:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [12:21] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [12:22] TR News The other FOMO. And fetishists who relish on social CONTROL media are FOMOsexual. "https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/fomo-faster-objects-more-objects-real-time-object-detection-embedded-systems [12:22] TR Bot FOMO (Faster Objects, More Objects) enables real-time object detection on low-end embedded systems - CNX Software [12:22] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [12:23] TR News Activism on social control media is a paradox. Imagine fossil fuel objectors doing a truck convoy to make a point. [12:24] TR News Social control media = herding, sharecropping. [12:56] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [12:56] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 324.60 ● Apr 18 [13:05] psydruid asiatimes.com looks really broken in Falkon and Netsurf, so the site has made great progress over the past few years [13:09] bnchs psydruid, great progress on what [13:10] psydruid bnchs, breaking the web in less popular browsers [13:10] bnchs well thats the thing about modern websites [13:19] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:28] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [13:28] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:32] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:33] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@xysfjgkw9pnje.irc) has joined #techrights [13:36] activelow it isn't "less popular browsers" themselves, it is borken standards compliance, of standards implemented by netsurf, and standards which are _not_ obsolete [13:36] bnchs activelow, it may also have to do with google bribing the W3C [13:37] activelow psydruid: by saying "less popular browsers" you are implying it is the browsers at fault, when instead it is broken standards compliance and the websites which are at fault [13:37] TR News "The first time I heard of Twtxt was when ew0k/BW added it to his Antenna aggregator." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201191641.gmi [13:37] psydruid no, I am not implying *anything* [13:37] TR News "This is not exactly news, but a Gemini group has been officially established on Usenet since what looks like late October. I remember reading about this on the mailing list, but since I have not touched Usenet in ages, I wasn't sure if I should bother." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201021711.gmi [13:37] activelow bnchs: yes, google is one major trouble source [13:37] activelow psydruid> bnchs, breaking the web in less popular browsers [13:38] psydruid they are less used and ignored and instead of that pages are made that work in "popular browers" [13:38] activelow it is standards compliance which was broken, and the web sites, not "less popular browsers" [13:38] TR News There will soon be 1900 known and ACTIVE Gemini capsules, says Lupa... [13:38] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [13:38] psydruid effectively they don't work in anything but chrome [13:39] psydruid but sure, let's continue being pedantic as usual [13:41] psydruid also, whose standards and who sets them? [13:41] activelow it is not pedantic, it is an important difference [13:41] psydruid het is gelul in de marge [13:41] activelow furthermore, playing with firefox-3.6.28 (for various reasons), which too implements those standards which are _not_ obsolete [13:42] activelow firefox is a popular browser, it is standards compliance which is broken [13:42] bnchs google helped locking in the web into their browsers by bribing W3C into implementing EME [13:42] psydruid I don't believe in those standards and compliance with them [13:43] bnchs and the most used DRM in EME is google's widevine [13:43] psydruid it's also important who sets the standards [13:43] activelow by saying "less popular" browsers you are distracting from broken standards compliance, and you are shifting blame onto those browsers [13:43] psydruid and if they can be considered standards at all [13:43] psydruid you know what [13:44] psydruid I'm sodding off and doing something more useful than arguing with you [13:44] psydruid have fun [13:47] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@6byxczt6txq2u.irc) has joined #techrights [13:48] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: wtf) [13:49] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [13:49] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:49] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@v8nadz8adup3w.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] TR News IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/ [13:53] TR Bot IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights [13:54] TR News Each time (EACH TIME) ClownFlare presents you with CAPTCHA challenge it is a failure, a misclassification. It basically deemed you a bot, INCORRECTLY. The same is true for most other CAPTCHA. [13:57] TR News CAPTCHAs aren't just an accessibility nightmare. Each CAPTCHA is a human rights problem. [13:59] SomeH4x0r I think most other CAPTCHAs are shown at the end of many forms always ● Apr 18 [14:02] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163844 [14:02] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [14:03] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@5tp7bay4r63ik.irc) has joined #techrights [14:03] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [14:03] TR News The Steam Deck is "not a flop" says Captain Obvious at The Verge. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k4cYOtAS-GA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [14:03] TR Bot The Steam Deck is "not a flop" says Captain Obvious at The Verge. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious [14:04] TR News "In the twenty-ninth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Executive Director Josepha Haden Chomphosy reminds us of our WordPress roots blogging and discusses the basics of starting your first blog on WordPress." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/episode-29-how-to-make-a-wordpress-blog/ [14:04] TR Bot Episode 29: How to Make a WordPress Blog WordPress News [14:07] TR News 12 Practical Examples of In Command in [GNU coreutils] https://www.ubuntupit.com/practical-examples-of-ln-command-in-linux/ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux [14:07] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntupit.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/practical-examples-of-ln-command-in-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ubuntupit.com/practical-examples-of-ln-command-in-linux/ [14:07] TR Bot 12 Practical Examples of In Command in Linux [14:09] TR News "We confirm that in 2020 and 2021 we observed and notified the government of the United Kingdom of multiple suspected instances of Pegasus spyware infections within official UK networks." https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/uk-government-officials-targeted-pegasus/ [14:09] TR Bot UK Government Officials Infected with Pegasus - The Citizen Lab [14:10] TR News CatalanGate: Extensive Mercenary Spyware Operation against Catalans Using Pegasus and Candiru - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/catalangate-extensive-mercenary-spyware-operation-against-catalans-using-pegasus-candiru/ Source: citizenlab [14:10] TR Bot CatalanGate: Extensive Mercenary Spyware Operation against Catalans Using Pegasus and Candiru - The Citizen Lab [14:10] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, Steam, LINUX Unplugged, and GNU World Order Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163845 [14:10] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, Steam, LINUX Unplugged, and GNU World Order | Tux Machines [14:13] TR News Probably more proprietary snakeoil with back doors. Avoid. https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/ [14:13] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techbuild.africa | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/ [14:13] TR Bot Sophos Launches High Impact Cloud Workload Protection Advancements With New Linux, Container Security Offerings [14:21] TR News How I repurposed an old Raspberry Pi into a travel router Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163846 [14:21] TR Bot How I repurposed an old Raspberry Pi into a travel router | Tux Machines [14:23] TR News cpufreq: intel_pstate: ITMT support for overclocked system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=03c83982a0278207709143ba78c5a470179febee [14:23] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [14:24] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:25] TR News Pay us lots of money for nothing. Diploma mill, "Virtual"... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/digital-credentials-red-hat-certified-professionals see https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Red_Hat [14:25] TR Bot Digital credentials for Red Hat Certified Professionals [14:25] TR Bot Category:Red Hat - WikiLeaks [14:28] activelow neat, pulling in X11/Xorg into the c-only base-system profile, seems ok... testing; gtk2/3 are blocked still (gperf mainly) [14:30] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [14:30] activelow it is gtk -> fontconfig -> gperf mainly, which remains a headache, among others, yet fontconfig/gperf prevent proceeding with gtk any further currently [14:31] activelow anyway, keeping X11 with a c-only base-system profile is a good start [14:33] TR News LXQt 1.1.0 Releases With Theme Updates, Panel Improvements, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/comment/reply/163800 [14:33] TR Bot Release LXQt 1.1.0 | Tux Machines [14:37] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [14:49] TR News Shift Beta 3 Nears Completion, Teaser Video. - MakuluLinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163847 [14:49] TR Bot Shift Beta 3 Nears Completion, Teaser Video. - MakuluLinux | Tux Machines [14:49] TR News The Road to New Xubuntu Docs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163848 [14:49] TR Bot The Road to New Xubuntu Docs | Tux Machines [14:52] TR News Much Awaited New Ubuntu Arrives Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163788#comment-33380 [14:52] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and the Party | Tux Machines [14:53] TR News But Android itself does not respect your privacy, so it is a net negative https://medevel.com/opentracks/ [14:53] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/opentracks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/opentracks/ [14:53] TR Bot OpenTracks is an Android Sport and Exercise Tracker that respects your privacy [14:54] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:55] TR News A phone that does respect your privacy does not connect to a mobile network and uses encryption too, e.g. Tox over Ethernet [14:56] TR News Privacy-respecting phone http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/gnu-jami-talk/ [14:56] TR Bot Lori Nagel Demonstrates GNU Jami for Communications | Techrights [14:56] TR News Booktype: a free, open-source publishing solution for authors and companies https://medevel.com/booktype/ [14:56] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/booktype/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/booktype/ [14:56] TR Bot Booktype: a free, open-source publishing solution for authors and companies [14:58] TR News "The BETA of the new Upgrade Tool is now available for testing. It can be used to upgrade LMDE 4 to LMDE 5." https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4312 [14:58] TR Bot LMDE Upgrade Tool in BETA The Linux Mint Blog [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 209.93 [14:59] TR News "ActivityWatch is an open source, free, privacy-first, cross-platform, and a great alternative to services like RescueTime, ManicTime, and WakaTime." https://medevel.com/activitywatch/ needs to delete Microsoft (criminals) GitHub... [14:59] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/activitywatch/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/activitywatch/ [14:59] TR Bot ActivityWatch is a private open-source automated time tracker ● Apr 18 [15:01] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:02] TR News Atlassian is openwashing and a bit like GitLab. While you can download and locally host some bits (I did JIRA on my own machine), they keep all the crowd jewels proprietary and try to herd users into their "clown", which loses data. [15:03] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Sourcetree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163849 [15:03] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Sourcetree | Tux Machines [15:03] TR News IBM keeps engineering its own blunders (own goals); in the latest example of it, which is rather revealing, IBM considers suspending the misguided plan to abolish BIOS support or assigning the task to a new special interest group (SIG) http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/ [15:03] TR Bot IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights [15:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [15:06] TR News "To remedy to that, ProtonDB introduced a new ratings system since late 2019, asking instead specific questions about what worked/did not work with each game, and deriving a calculated rating based on that." https://boilingsteam.com/protons-recent-push-to-reduce-the-number-of-borked-games/ [15:06] TR Bot Proton's Recent Push to Reduce the Number of Borked Games - Boiling Steam [15:10] MinceR https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/ [15:10] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/ [15:10] TR Bot BOFH and the PFY in the Great Switch Switcheroo The Register [15:11] TR News independently conducted???? Ponemon??? https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/benchmarking-linux-security-latest.html see https://techrights.org/2011/07/10/real-reporting-and-swpats/ and http://techrights.org/2011/07/10/ponemon-paid-for-studies/ [15:11] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/benchmarking-linux-security-latest.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/benchmarking-linux-security-latest.html [15:11] TR Bot Benchmarking Linux Security Latest Research Findings [15:11] TR Bot Journalists Fail to Report Microsoft Racketeering as Microsoft Manages to Shape the News | Techrights [15:11] TR Bot Novell Pays Ponemon Institute, LLC, to Help Generate Fake News | Techrights [15:12] TR News Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163850 [15:12] TR Bot Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool | Tux Machines [15:14] TR News An Introduction to JSON - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/an-introduction-to-json/ Source: thenewstack [15:14] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/an-introduction-to-json/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thenewstack.io/an-introduction-to-json/ [15:14] TR Bot An Introduction to JSON The New Stack [15:16] TR News Not Big, If True: Congresss Proposed Changes Fail to Solve the Fundamental Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/not-big-if-true-congresss-proposed-changes-fail-to-solve-the-fundamental-problems-with-the-jcpa/ Source: publicknowledge [15:16] TR Bot Not Big, If True: Congresss Proposed Changes Fail to Solve the Fundamental Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge [15:16] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163851 [15:16] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:16] TR News Linux Mints New Upgrade Tool Enters Public Beta Testing, Heres #HowTo Use It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163852 [15:16] TR Bot Linux Mints New Upgrade Tool Enters Public Beta Testing, Heres How to Use It | Tux Machines [15:25] TR News Criminals from Microsoft pulling strings again https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/15/microsoft-tried-to-cozy-up-to-newspaper-publishers-who-are-now-claiming-microsoft-is-trying-to-stiff-them/ [15:25] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/15/microsoft-tried-to-cozy-up-to-newspaper-publishers-who-are-now-claiming-microsoft-is-trying-to-stiff-them/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/15/microsoft-tried-to-cozy-up-to-newspaper-publishers-who-are-now-claiming-microsoft-is-trying-to-stiff-them/ [15:25] TR Bot Tried To Cozy Up To Newspaper Publishers Who Are Now Claiming Microsoft Is Trying To Stiff Them | Techdirt [15:26] TR News Microsoft is organised crime. Governments all around the world need to treat it accordingly. The US government actively looks away when presented with evidence of the crimes. [15:26] TR News control [15:26] TR News control [15:27] TR News When you outsource your project to GitHub you willingly give control to criminals... over your own work. [15:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163853 [15:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:29] Techrights-sec github is sharecropping [15:29] Techrights-sec for code [15:31] TR News The original cancel cultures gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-04-14.gmi [15:32] TR News "This is what Paludan wanted to happen. He tricks the media into pushing his false narrative that its all about the book, see how they act just because I wanna burn a book." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/doubling-down-on-paludan [15:33] TR News Is the ancient gophermap concept still a good idea? gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-18-is-the-ancient-gophermap-concept-still-a-good-idea.gmi [15:34] TR News I didn't understand Test Driven Design (and the cost to my career) gemini://spikydinosaur.com/2022/04/18-i-didnt-understand-tdd.gmi [15:36] *activelo1 (~activelow@g9hda3zjbn9hi.irc) has joined #techrights [15:36] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:37] TR News "Who dares implement Core War over Gemini? It would join Astrobotany in the game's department on Geminispace. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi [15:37] *activelo1 has quit (Quit: leaving) [15:37] *activelow (~activelow@c53wmwbdesx7c.irc) has joined #techrights [15:40] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:40] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [15:40] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [15:43] TR News exa: Next-gen listing command in Linux for pro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163854 [15:43] TR Bot exa: Next-gen listing command in Linux for pro | Tux Machines [15:47] *matey has quit (connection closed) [15:51] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood [15:51] TR Bot Firehose of falsehood - Wikipedia [15:58] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) ● Apr 18 [16:01] *includeals (~includeal@a89-153-106-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [16:01] TR News box86 and box64 get Steam Play Proton working much better on Arm devices | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/box86-and-box64-get-steam-play-proton-working-much-better-on-arm-devices/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [16:01] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/box86-and-box64-get-steam-play-proton-working-much-better-on-arm-devices/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/box86-and-box64-get-steam-play-proton-working-much-better-on-arm-devices/ [16:01] TR Bot and box64 get Steam Play Proton working much better on Arm devices | GamingOnLinux [16:02] TR News Free software evolution sim Thrive goes Multicellular in the latest update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [16:02] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/ [16:02] TR Bot source evolution sim Thrive goes Multicellular in the latest update | GamingOnLinux [16:03] TR News "ProtonUp-Qt gives you an incredibly easy way to install compatibility layers on Linux like GE-Proton (formerly Proton GE), Lutris-Wine, Luxtorpeda and more." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/ [16:03] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/ [16:03] TR Bot v2.6.1 adds support for the Heroic Launcher Flatpak | GamingOnLinux [16:05] TR News Kubernetes increases complexity. This can hamper security. https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/ [16:05] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: containerjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/ [16:05] TR Bot Hardening Kubernetes Multi-Cluster Environments - Container Journal [16:06] TR News How to use the Python debugger (pdb) | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/python-debugger-pdb Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux [16:06] TR Bot How to use the Python debugger (pdb) | Enable Sysadmin [16:07] TR News The 'other' EFF https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 [16:07] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 ) [16:07] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: iol.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 [16:08] XRevan86 https://smbc-comics.com/comic/ai-9 [16:08] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AI [16:14] TR News "Happy Friday, everyone --here's what the Apache community has been up to over the past week..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up252 [16:14] TR Bot The Apache News Round-up: week ending 15 April 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [16:15] TR News How to add two numbers using parameterized constructor in java https://linuxhint.com/parameterized-constructor-add-two-numbers/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW [16:15] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/parameterized-constructor-add-two-numbers/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxhint.com/parameterized-constructor-add-two-numbers/ [16:15] TR Bot How to add two numbers using parameterized constructor in java [16:22] activelow awesome... got X11+window-manager+terminal-emulator ready within the c-only base system [16:22] activelow minor issue remaining, with unicode, looks good otherwise [16:22] activelow meaning, this can be fed into TinyCC at some time [16:23] *gooseheaded_ has quit (connection closed) [16:23] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [16:39] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:44] activelow weird export LANG=C did it for now; [16:46] *BzOS (~b910266e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] activelow GTK2/3 are a burden still, because i have no idea yet, how to cope with fontconfig/gperf dependency [16:52] *tpmd (~tpm@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has joined #techrights [16:52] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg [16:52] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg [16:55] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 95.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 336.40 [16:59] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 18 [17:01] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [17:14] TR News Linux Mint Upgrade Tool (mintupgrade) Beta Released. Heres #HowTo Try Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163855 [17:14] TR Bot Linux Mint Upgrade Tool (mintupgrade) Beta Released. Here's How to Try | Tux Machines [17:15] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163856 [17:15] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:15] TR News Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163857 [17:15] TR Bot Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:15] TR News Games: Proton, box86, Thrive, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163858 [17:15] TR Bot Games: Proton, box86, Thrive, and More | Tux Machines [17:15] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163859 [17:15] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:16] activelow anyway, this means, a traditional *nix without any c++ dependency can be maintained, including X11, mplayer, web browser, irc, mail [17:17] activelow if the fontconfig/gperf dependency can be repaired (not sure how yet), then GTK2 (or 3) can remain, including netsurf and various other goodies [17:18] activelow i mean, even RISC OS includes an undesireable c++ compiler, not sure what depends on it, nonetheless, baphos is stricter in this regard [17:19] TR News Links 18/04/2022: Makulu GNU/Linux Shift Beta 3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/makululinux-shift-beta-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/makululinux-shift-beta-3/ [17:19] TR Bot Links 18/04/2022: Makulu GNU/Linux Shift Beta 3 | Techrights [17:20] activelow and gladly i wasn't hitting any cmake dependency so far, which will be another burden, excluding various desireable components, because cmake itself is written in c++ and there isn't any alternative implementation [17:20] BzOS netsurf latest release is from 2 years ago [17:22] activelow i fetched latest git-head, while ago [17:22] activelow and, stability is _good_ [17:23] activelow got an idea how many updates are necessary if c++ dependencies are exluded? rarely any in years, which is exactly what i want. [17:25] activelow and, if GNOME/GTK are wrecked (systemd/dbus/opengl dependencies), at least some ultra-conservative stable system can remain [17:26] activelow some other components are a headache still, which may or may not be necessary: ghostscript/LaTex/texlive [17:26] activelow because, the idea is, such a system _must_ remain capable for scientific work and authoring [17:27] activelow i see Knuth released his original TeX variant with an incompatible license; i'll know soon enough, if it is sufficient for a markdown/tex/html authoring workflow [17:28] activelow postscript is probably gone, yet printing onto 9pin matrix printer wouldn't require postscript [17:29] activelow i must admit, GTK2/3 are desireable, yet as said i have no idea yet, to easily cope with gperf (and who knows what else will be hitting other c++ dependencies, such as cmake) [17:31] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [17:40] XRevan86 https://existentialcomics.com/comic/442 [17:40] TR Bot Presocratic Return Policy - Existential Comics [17:48] MinceR how could anything fade away until only dust remains if change is an illusion? 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[17:52] MinceR :> [17:59] *barto (~barto@2q7w2pvruanrn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:59] barto greetings [17:59] SomeH4x0r hi ● Apr 18 [18:03] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [18:03] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [18:05] SomeH4x0r barto: you can probably run /history #techrights something [18:05] SomeH4x0r something being time value [18:06] SomeH4x0r like 1h [18:06] SomeH4x0r or 1d [18:06] SomeH4x0r or number of lines [18:06] barto sure [18:13] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:24] *CrystalMath (~coderain@jaew66i22wctn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:25] activelow anyway, i'll refine the package set further, which is rather easy now since almost everything undesirable is hitting a minimum acceptance test wall, which is automated [18:26] activelow and even if gtk2/3 were gone for a while, i can happily live with that [18:33] activelow any idea why Knuth TeX isn't maintained inside various distribution trees? [18:33] activelow Knuth license. lol. [18:39] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [18:48] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/novayagazeta_en/status/1516050965354487814 [18:48] TR Bot Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@novayagazeta_en): "Novaya Gazeta. Europe has spoken with the mother of a Russian conscript who got drafted shortly before the war in Ukraine. We have received documents confirming that her son was indeed drafted and that he served in the Russian Navy https://novayagazetaeu.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many?s=r" | nitter [18:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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That's why it attracts a liar, a sociopath... someone who spreads misinformation for self enrichment. ● Apr 18 [20:00] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@6r9fix5u5g9xa.irc) has joined #techrights [20:01] TR News "I'm really only interested in sending the occasional mail to other gophers. (And to be honest, I don't really care if Google blacklists my server.) So if I have some time this weekend I'll implement a system for outbound connections" gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-29-Email-thoughts-2-(reply-to-Tomasino-and-Sean).txt [20:01] TR News Steam Deck was the Steam top seller for the week ending April 17 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [20:01] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/ [20:01] TR Bot Deck was the Steam top seller for the week ending April 17 | GamingOnLinux [20:02] *barto has quit (Quit: gotta go (quit)) [20:02] TR News Linux Mint Releases LMDE Upgrade Tool for Beta Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163850#comment-33382 [20:02] TR Bot Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool | Tux Machines [20:03] TR News "Bottles continues to mature as a way to manage installing applications and games with the compatibility layer Wine. A fresh release is out now showing off some UI improvements and new features." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/ [20:03] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/ [20:03] TR Bot manager app Bottles adds a new Library mode, vkBasalt support | GamingOnLinux [20:10] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wR1ivVX6p7s [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] TR Bot How to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS - Invidious [20:11] TR News "You've probably heard of the "grep" command, but did you know about ripgrep? ripgrep is a "line-oriented search tool" that you can use to quickly find text within files, with additional features." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gywe0ILrvw [20:11] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=1gywe0ILrvw [20:11] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | Awesome Linux Tools: ripgrep (rg) - Invidious [20:12] TR News "SUSE-IT plans a replacement of some network equipment in the Nuremberg Datacenter next Thursday (2022-04-21), between 4PM to 5PM CEST. Actual downtime is planned to be up to 15 minutes." https://progress.opensuse.org/news/120 [20:12] TR Bot Network outage next Thursday, April 21st - openSUSE admin - openSUSE Project Management Tool [20:13] TR News apt vs. apt-get: Whats the Difference on Linux? https://www.howtogeek.com/791055/apt-vs.-apt-get-whats-the-difference-on-linux/ Source: howtogeek [20:13] TR Bot apt vs. apt-get: Whats the Difference on Linux? [20:14] TR News Linux Foundation works for Microsoft, also on openwashing; while Microsoft engages in very serious crimes Zemlin compares Microsoft critics to people who kick puppies [20:15] TR News Microsoft openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163648#comment-33383 [20:15] TR Bot Today's Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines [20:15] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [20:15] TR News Jim Zemlin: shameless opportunist, backstaber, and fraud of a person [20:19] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@55yavjrizyydq.irc) has joined #techrights [20:20] TR News Git is released. LWN and Phoronix link to MICROSOFT GITHUB (an ATTACK on Git!!!) instead of the actual announcement!! And if you search for Git in Wikipedia the second result isn't Git but GitHub, also an attack on Git. [20:20] TR News Git v2.36.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163862 [20:20] TR Bot Git v2.36.0 | Tux Machines [20:21] TR News Letting GitHub control Git is like letting Microsoft control Linux or allowing Bill Gates to babysit your kids [20:22] DaemonFC I just had the tensioner pulley assembly replaced. GM figured it would also be fun to route coolant through it. [20:22] DaemonFC So there's some pipes you need to replace too. [20:23] TR News Linux Plumbers Conference top sponsor is espionage and disinformation giant, Facebook! Again. https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/02/04/cfp-open-microconferences/ [20:23] TR Bot CFP Open Microconferences Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 [20:24] TR News Bash is GNU in this case, not Linux. Linux is just a kernel, dear... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657591/creating-a-quick-calculation-function-on-linux.html [20:24] TR Bot Creating a quick calculation function on Linux | Network World [20:26] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:26] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [20:30] DaemonFC I was driving along this week and noticed the car was squealing like a pig on cold mornings. [20:30] DaemonFC So I had Car-X change the serpentine belt when it was in there getting other stuff done, and then the noise seemed to go away, so I figured belt glazing and then the cold came back and it was squaling like a pig again. [20:30] DaemonFC The tensioner was wearing out. [20:31] DaemonFC Took it up to Chevy and had them deal with that and flush the brakes while it was in there. [20:31] DaemonFC The pedal was just bothering me. Suspected old brake fluid was probably to blame. [20:32] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163863 [20:32] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:33] TR News 10 years of stories behind Guix Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163864 [20:33] TR Bot 10 years of stories behind Guix | Tux Machines [20:34] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg [20:34] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg [20:35] TR News Star Labs Unveils a New Small Format Linux PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163730#comment-33384 [20:35] TR Bot Star Labs Unveil Their First AMD-Powered Mini Linux PC with Coreboot Support | Tux Machines [20:35] DaemonFC If you go looking at used cars, then you know it's a woman's car when you get in and you don't know what any of the fucking buttons are because her fingernails scratched them all off. [20:35] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [20:35] schestowitz-TR you got a relatively old cars [20:35] schestowitz-TR and expensive to repair [20:35] schestowitz-TR over time it seems like I was right [20:35] schestowitz-TR *car [20:36] DaemonFC Yeah, that's why I wasn't SUPER pissed when a tensioner started squeaking. [20:36] DaemonFC I set aside some money for fluid and filter changes right away. [20:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mom gets had. She pays as much in interest and useless car warranty schemes on something that's an obvious piece of shit. [20:37] DaemonFC She goes to some dealer that sees her coming a mile away. [20:37] DaemonFC Knows he doesn't have to give her anything resembling a fair deal. [20:37] schestowitz-TR you pay the price for warning to show off [20:37] DaemonFC She drives off with it and it begins a mile later with a flat tire. [20:37] schestowitz-TR for wanting [20:37] DaemonFC Well, the Impala was getting so old it was something all the time. [20:38] DaemonFC Like, ALL the time. [20:38] DaemonFC Not just age, but mileage. [20:38] TR News Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163865 [20:38] TR Bot Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools | Tux Machines [20:38] DaemonFC Mom didn't even wash it regularly, and she took it to shade tree mechanics, not factory-certified ones that use real parts. [20:38] TR News Games: Steam Deck, Bottles, and SDL2 Changes Mind on Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163866 [20:38] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck, Bottles, and SDL2 Changes Mind on Wayland | Tux Machines [20:38] DaemonFC So she'd get some idiot that always did half (or less) of the job. [20:39] DaemonFC Then stick some part from AutoZone on it. [20:39] DaemonFC The 2003 Impala was the only car she's ever bought that wasn't a piece of shit when she took delivery of it. [20:40] DaemonFC Then she let it go to hell and then she'd financed like 3 more Impalas since then, lost 2 of them to bankruptcy and breakdown almost right off. [20:40] DaemonFC This one is making severe engine noises. [20:40] TR News So youre thinking about migrating to Linux? Heres what you need to know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163867 [20:40] TR Bot So you're thinking about migrating to Linux? Here's what you need to know | Tux Machines [20:40] DaemonFC She's still paying on it and can't file bankruptcy again. [20:40] DaemonFC She had a Malibu she bought from her state senator that was in extremely good condition. [20:40] DaemonFC She wrecked it., [20:41] DaemonFC Then after the insurance company handed her a check, instead of taking the check to a body shop, she drove it for a little while with the side all smashed in, and then gave it to my cousin, who ignored an oil leak and the motor burned up. [20:41] TR News SUSE uses to promote GNU/Linux, not clown computing surveillance traps :/ https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/ [20:41] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/ [20:41] TR Bot Summits Are Back! | SUSE Communities [20:42] TR News "Too many meetings end with a vague feeling among the players that something ought to happen, and the hope that its not their personal job to make it so. [...] ask So whats the next action on this? at the end of each discussion point in your next staff meeting" http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1669 [20:42] TR Bot Whats the next action? [20:42] DaemonFC She takes good cars and just ruins them with neglect, running over curbs, etc. It's a pain in the ass to even look at, schestowitz-TR [20:42] DaemonFC It's worse than Linus Tech Tips with Linux. [20:42] TR News Many Rust resignations lately... https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/04/18/libs-contributors.html [20:42] TR Bot Please welcome Thom and Chris to Library Contributors | Inside Rust Blog [20:43] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, If she had done the required servicing and routine car washes on the 2003 Impala, it would not have that much rust on it and it would be a 500,000 mile car. [20:43] DaemonFC It's just as well GM makes shit now, because it's all going to her anyway. [20:44] DaemonFC Dad and Jan bought a Chevy Equinox, which I can't imagine they're happy with. [20:44] TR News PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.4 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163868 [20:44] TR Bot PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.4 Released | Tux Machines [20:45] DaemonFC He's such a tightwad (and not a great one) that he probably bought the base model and then didn't even talk them down on it. [20:45] DaemonFC And the stupid things are made in Mexico, including the powertrain. [20:45] DaemonFC And I got in one and laughed. It's all cheap plastic in the interior. It's comparable to a Kia. [20:45] DaemonFC Apparently, that's all they have to compete with now, so that's what they do. [20:46] DaemonFC Little dinky pathetic 1 liter engine. [20:46] DaemonFC Touchscreens and all sorts of horrible shit in there. [20:46] schestowitz-TR it is not a racing car [20:46] schestowitz-TR even if it was, there are speed limits [20:46] DaemonFC Yeah, they get _decent_ mileage, but probably severely underpowered. [20:47] schestowitz-TR screens might be ok for entertainment, but it's a waste of device [20:47] DaemonFC Do you think anyone in Illinois goes the speed limit? [20:47] schestowitz-TR if they are not detachable [20:47] DaemonFC Nobody goes under 85 on the freeway even if it says 55. [20:47] schestowitz-TR then you pay for something that hardly ever gets used [20:47] schestowitz-TR and takes up the battery juice [20:47] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm thinking about taking all my insurance over to Farmers.e [20:48] TR News Solutions to Install Newer Apps on Older Ubuntu Versions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163869 [20:48] TR Bot Solutions to Install Newer Apps on Older Ubuntu Versions | Tux Machines [20:48] DaemonFC They're pretty competitive with what I have now if you combine your renter's insurance on the plan. [20:48] DaemonFC Then I can unplug that Pulse thing from Metromile and drive all I want. [20:48] schestowitz-TR you said you would be saving money [20:48] schestowitz-TR not you waste that on vanity [20:48] schestowitz-TR and it takes up your time tsoon [20:48] schestowitz-TR bbl [20:49] DaemonFC You can throw money away keeping a hooptie around too. [20:49] DaemonFC Faster, even. [20:49] DaemonFC Unless you just do like this ghetto trash does. [20:49] DaemonFC Let the thing go to hell and maybe even kill you. [20:49] MinceR what's a hooptie? [20:50] TR News "This is just a quick entry to say thanks to those who have contacted me (emails) or written about [1] their thoughts on blacklisting misbehaving gopher proxies [2]. One thing I hadn't appreciated was that some of you are using these proxies to get around annoying firewalls." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-09-05-Gopher-Proxy-Blacklisting-2.txt [20:50] DaemonFC A dilapidated old car that nobody is servicing. [20:50] DaemonFC It barely runs, it's covered in rust, it sounds like someone is tapping out SOS in morse code when they drive by. [20:51] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The service advisor gave me some good advice on the TPMS sensors. [20:52] DaemonFC He says the tires are already on the car and there's no chance to combine labor, so if the light comes back, the low battery code is on the sensor in the front right tire, so just replace that one and maybe you need new tires or something before the other ones die. [20:52] TR News Photojournals in Gemini. This one updated moments ago gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220418-2022-week-11-15-photos.gmi [20:53] DaemonFC It has new tires, but the budget Chinese brands almost never last as long as top dollar stuff. [20:53] DaemonFC So replacing one sensor now to get the light to stay off and revisiting the situation in a few years when it needs tires again might be the way to go. [20:53] DaemonFC Or just ignoring the light entirely and driving like that and replacing the sensors when I get new tires. [20:54] DaemonFC So far it hasn't come back on. [20:55] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:56] *Despatche_ has quit (connection closed) [20:56] *Despatche_ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [20:58] DaemonFC Turning the tensioner pulley into part of the coolant plumbing system is something so bad only GM could have thought of it. [20:59] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Did I mention that part of the job is replacing coolant pipes that go through the tensioner? [20:59] DaemonFC :) [20:59] DaemonFC I can only surmise that the intention is to create more places for a coolant leak to spring. ● Apr 18 [21:02] DaemonFC GM put ones made of plastic on at the factory. So I had the Chevy dealer replace the factory ones with metal ones. [21:03] DaemonFC The new tensioner will probably be okay for a very long time, but the plastic heating and cooling is something you don't want to risk when it costs $20 to replace. [21:09] TR News Techrights has barely done articles and videos about Gemini lately. Instead, as Gemini is nowadays very active, Techrights links to Gemini many times a day. This thing is here to stay... Gopher has been around for over 31 years (3 decades and more). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol) [21:09] TR Bot Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia [21:10] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-22.jpg [21:10] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-22.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-22.jpg [21:10] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:12] TR News WWW predates Gopher by 2 years. Curiously enough, Gopher was made in the University of Minnesota, the same place where a bunch of idiots vandalised Linux (kernel) until they got caught last year. http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/university-of-minnesota-linux/ [21:12] TR Bot University of Minnesota Has Destroyed Itself (or Its Reputation) by Trying to Destroy Linux and the Credibility of Linux | Techrights [21:14] TR News Jim Zemlin: Ph.D. students submitting defective patches to Linux is bad. Microsoft bribing officials and attacking Linux by blackmail etc. isn't bad. Because those Ph.D. students do not pay my salary, whereas I'm among those bribed by Microsoft. [21:16] TR News If you value privacy and security, you won't use Android https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/mobile-mitm-intercepting-your-android-app-traffic-go [21:16] TR Bot Mobile MitM: Intercepting your Android App Traffic On the Go | Electronic Frontier Foundation [21:17] TR News Software Patents: "The '774 patent relates to allowing or denying migration of virtual machines based on the geographic location of the target host." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/17/ip-edge-entity-invincible-ip-patent-likely-invalid [21:17] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/17/ip-edge-entity-invincible-ip-patent-likely-invalid https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/17/ip-edge-entity-invincible-ip-patent-likely-invalid [21:17] TR Bot IP Edge entity Invincible IP's patent likely invalid Unified Patents [21:17] TR News "Best" as in most aggressive? This whole patent system became obscene. https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/13/lpix-moneyball [21:17] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/13/lpix-moneyball https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/13/lpix-moneyball [21:17] TR Bot LPIX - Moneyball for the Best Prosecution Firms Unified Patents [21:21] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [21:21] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@2x7efkc2if2fa.irc) has joined #techrights [21:22] TR News Huawei added UEFI mirror memory function support to Linux AArch 64 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163870 [21:22] TR Bot Huawei added UEFI mirror memory function support to Linux AArch 64 | Tux Machines [21:25] TR News Best part?!?!? WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux! https://www.osnews.com/story/134045/the-best-part-of-windows-11-is-a-revamped-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ [21:25] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134045/the-best-part-of-windows-11-is-a-revamped-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.osnews.com/story/134045/the-best-part-of-windows-11-is-a-revamped-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ [21:25] TR Bot best part of Windows 11 is a revamped Windows Subsystem for Linux OSnews [21:29] *tpmd (~tpm@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has left #techrights [21:29] schestowitz-TR hi, tp [21:29] schestowitz-TR oops, left, not joined [21:29] schestowitz-TR nm [21:39] activelow seems there is a trivial fix for fontconfig/gperf... as usual... an older version [21:41] activelow and i'll track something else, meson build system, don't appreciate if python is required as a build-time dependency for non-python packages [21:41] activelow make/autotools remain anyway, and this is enough trouble [21:42] activelow even if, the meson variant was any better, many autotools builds remain nonetheless [21:42] activelow and then, python/meson add up yet another bdep and potential trouble source [21:44] DaemonFC My doorbell has been going off all evening. [21:44] DaemonFC Walmart orders. [21:44] activelow at first glance, the removal of various precious packages, such as gimp, may not appeal to some [21:44] DaemonFC It's cheaper to just buy canned food a dozen at a time. [21:45] DaemonFC I've stocked up on some vegetables and canned chicken that I was running low on. [21:45] activelow yet, what's difficult is the cleaning of the dependency tree, and adding a c++ compiler and gimp is far easier than keeping the dependency tree clean inside the base system [21:45] DaemonFC You have to buy things a dozen at a time now to get what the single can price was last year. [21:46] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [21:47] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Two cars under $16k at City Chevrolet. A Kia and a Hyundai. Both pretty old. [21:47] DaemonFC They could literally explode right after you buy them. [21:47] DaemonFC I've never heard of the Buick V6 just exploding for no reason, so that's a plus. [21:48] DaemonFC Well, there is a reason why the Hyundai THETA II engine explodes. [21:48] DaemonFC Apparently accidentally shipping them full of thermite causes the explosions and patching the ECM software "fixes" everything. [21:48] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:50] DaemonFC https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/more-kia-vehicles-recalled-for-fire-risk-a4433944061/ [21:50] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: consumerreports.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/more-kia-vehicles-recalled-for-fire-risk-a4433944061/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/more-kia-vehicles-recalled-for-fire-risk-a4433944061/ [21:50] TR Bot More Kia Vehicles Recalled for Fire Risk - Consumer Reports [21:50] DaemonFC Software patch, check. [21:50] DaemonFC Tell customer to have A, B, C fire extinguisher in the trunk, check. [21:50] DaemonFC "Be aware of your surroundings. Never stand on an active roadway. If youre parked by the side of the road, stay far behind the vehicle to avoid being hit if another car strikes your vehicle." [21:50] DaemonFC Well, it should be easy for them to see you. [21:51] DaemonFC What, with your entire car being a big-ass road flare at that point. [21:53] DaemonFC Then after it happens, KIA Motors Finance will demand payment for the car if you still have a loan, even though KIA is the reason the car went up in flames. [21:54] DaemonFC Well, at least we know what the white farmers in South Africa must feel like after having their land stolen to go fallow while the bank still demands the loan payments. [21:55] DaemonFC "As I stood there, watching the KIA immolate itself, I thought....'Just 10 more payments....10....more payments.'. After a year of riding the city bus, I went to the Toyota dealer. [21:58] DaemonFC The way I see it, interest to a bank is just cash in the trash. [21:58] DaemonFC If you own the car outright, you can skip the interest and maybe afford to maintain it a little better. [21:59] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: not my problem anymore [21:59] schestowitz-TR I'm not a user ● Apr 18 [22:00] TR News How the Free Software Movement Will Build a Better Future Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163871 [22:00] TR Bot How the Free Software Movement Will Build a Better Future | Tux Machines [22:00] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Between interest and useless warranties, mom usually overpays by about $7,000 on each of her cars on that alone. [22:00] TR News 10 People Youve Never Heard of Who Are Destroying Democracy | The New Republic https://newrepublic.com/article/165984/10-people-destroying-democracy "Theyre sowing disruption and disinformation, and they have their eyes on 2024." [22:00] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newrepublic.com/article/165984/10-people-destroying-democracy https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newrepublic.com/article/165984/10-people-destroying-democracy [22:00] TR Bot 10 People Youve Never Heard of Who Are Destroying Democracy | The New Republic [22:01] DaemonFC There is a time value of money, sure, but most car loans are doled out at between 20x and 100x what the bank borrows money at. [22:02] DaemonFC Any repairs you have to make to the car while there's a loan on it put you at risk of repairing the car and having it hauled off by the finance company. [22:02] TR News "Valve continue to cook up plans for more exciting upgrades to the Steam Deck, with Refresh Rate Switching looking like it's on the way. Not ready quite yet with work to do but the idea is great." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/looks-like-the-steam-deck-will-get-refresh-rate-switching/ [22:02] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/looks-like-the-steam-deck-will-get-refresh-rate-switching/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/looks-like-the-steam-deck-will-get-refresh-rate-switching/ [22:02] TR Bot like the Steam Deck will get Refresh Rate Switching | GamingOnLinux [22:03] DaemonFC Once they get it back, they dispose of it fast and cheap and still come after you for the rest. [22:03] DaemonFC It's not uncommon for repos to sell at auction for 1/5th or less of what you still owe, and then the bank claims that all of that was eaten up in repo fees and cleaning it up to auction. [22:04] DaemonFC It's a giant scam. [22:04] TR News You Dont Choose Your Linux Distro. It Chooses You! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jyHo0Jg7Cw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [22:04] DaemonFC And then you have baby boomers stepping in the brand new car scam over and over because they learn nothing. [22:04] TR Bot You Don't Choose Your Linux Distro. It Chooses You! - Invidious [22:04] TR News "Our discoveries including a better diff, a way to replace Snaps with Flatpacks, a command line cheat sheet, help with YAML, and signing PDFs. Plus your feeback about supporting us with crypto nonsense, running Linux on work machines, an esoteric browser, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-173/ [22:04] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 173 Late Night Linux [22:05] TR News xkcd: Family Reunion https://xkcd.com/2608/ Source: xkcd [22:05] TR Bot Family Reunion [22:05] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2608/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2608/ [22:06] TR News "Blockchain Companies" https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/18/north-korean-state-sponsored-apt-targets-blockchain-companies [22:06] TR Bot North Korean State-Sponsored APT Targets Blockchain Companies | CISA [22:07] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you make fun of them [22:08] schestowitz-TR but you too have fallen for dreams [22:08] schestowitz-TR you've hardly had two weeks with the car and already paid an additional 10% [22:08] schestowitz-TR that's like many earPods or whatever they're called [22:09] DaemonFC Yeah, I test drove it on a fairly warm day. [22:09] DaemonFC So it wasn't squealing. [22:09] DaemonFC There's no way this woman didn't hear that when it was really cold outside. [22:09] DaemonFC I'm just lucky it didn't snap a belt with no warning. [22:10] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Car-X seems to be getting worse than it usually was. [22:10] DaemonFC Seems more pressure to get cars in and out. [22:10] DaemonFC So they'll just say they can't hear it and tell you to come back some other day. [22:10] DaemonFC At least the Chevy dealer knows what's going on with the car. [22:11] DaemonFC The fact that they had to go down to Joliet over a stupid tensioner pulley is unsettling though. [22:11] TR News PC is a generic term now https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_the_postpostpc_era-news-53953.php [22:11] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gsmarena.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_the_postpostpc_era-news-53953.php https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_the_postpostpc_era-news-53953.php [22:11] TR Bot the post-post-PC era - GSMArena.com news [22:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, They had to go down 80 miles and back to get a Chevy part for me? [22:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: live and learn [22:13] DaemonFC Well, they had to charge what the book said to, so their problem there isn't exactly my problem. [22:13] DaemonFC The fact that it took them 2 hours to get the part. [22:14] schestowitz-TR and so your purchase is becoming chevy patchwork [22:14] DaemonFC Well, not exactly. [22:14] DaemonFC The Buick Lacrosse is basically a fancy Chevy Impala. [22:14] schestowitz-TR old cars, old parts [22:14] DaemonFC So they share many parts. [22:14] schestowitz-TR with "smart" cars it'll be worse [22:14] schestowitz-TR good luck getting parts from just 10 years ago [22:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You can go into the aftermarket for most stuff all the way back as far as you want to go. [22:15] schestowitz-TR yesterday I walked to 7 stores [22:15] DaemonFC So I'm not terribly concerned just yet. If I absolutely needed to, I could use an auto parts store tensioner instead of a OE one. [22:15] schestowitz-TR saved like 80% [22:16] schestowitz-TR with cars and parking that's harder [22:16] DaemonFC Mechanical parts have a huge aftermarket. [22:16] schestowitz-TR and in manchester city center there's almost nowhere to park [22:16] DaemonFC You can sell so many of the damned things because the Impala and Lacrosse used the same tensioner for like 11 model years. [22:16] DaemonFC And the Impala is a fleet vehicle. [22:17] DaemonFC So lots of people buy those used, right, like old cop cars? [22:17] schestowitz-TR not all cops are old :-) [22:17] DaemonFC The Lacrosse is just an Impala with better suspension and more features and stuff. [22:17] DaemonFC Better interior, trim. [22:18] schestowitz-TR so Lacrosse is a rich fool's product [22:18] DaemonFC Sort of, yeah. [22:18] DaemonFC But luxury cars lose value rapidly. [22:18] TR News "This release contains bug fixes to improve robustness and some additional configuration support. This release note describes whats different between Istio 1.13.2 and 1.13.3." https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.3/ [22:18] TR Bot Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.3 [22:18] DaemonFC But the nice thing about the Lacrosse or Grand Marquis is they were built on top of the Impala or Crown Victoria. [22:18] DaemonFC So you can service the luxury car with mass market parts. [22:19] DaemonFC Can't do that with most luxury cars so you are screwed. [22:19] DaemonFC The Sable was an upmarket Taurus, and so on. [22:19] DaemonFC If you get a luxury car, make sure they built it off something mass market so there's like, opportunities to dig into the aftermarket and leverage scale. [22:20] DaemonFC That way you can keep it going for a long time without any $1,200 MARISOL wheel hub bearings. [22:20] DaemonFC $600 an axle MARISOL brake pads. [22:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Even at the Chevy dealer, which is terribly overpriced for brake pads, it's $249 an axle, and a wheel hub bearing is like $400. [22:21] DaemonFC And so you can take your Buick there and just tell them to service it there if you want, or an independent, and get it for even less. [22:21] TR News "The goal was to have something like Scratchy [1] (my gopher server) but for gemini. Honestly I wasn't expecting this to be very hard at all. The only thing I was unsure of was the TLS aspect." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2020-05-30-Inanity-2:-RAGS-to-Riches.txt [22:21] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163872 [22:21] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:22] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Hell, fuck, you can take the Buick to Midas and get $99 an axle brake pads. [22:22] DaemonFC They won't be top of the line, but they'll work okay. [22:22] DaemonFC Can't do that with a Beemer. [22:22] DaemonFC They have to be BMW brake pads. [22:22] DaemonFC If your mechanic does the job, the only thing you save on is labor. [22:22] DaemonFC He still has to go to a dealer and buy BMW pads. [22:23] DaemonFC So he goes to their parts department and BMW gets you anway. [22:23] DaemonFC *anyway [22:23] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Then there's the $300 BMW oil change. [22:23] DaemonFC And so a bunch of BMW victims noticed BMW using Castrol synthetic and go "Why the fuck am I paying $300 for this guy to pour Castrol in?". [22:24] DaemonFC So they go to Jiffy Lube and have them pour in Castrol Syntec, which is a synthetic oil meant for American cars, and it went ahead and sludged up their BMW engine. [22:24] DaemonFC And they didn't save much money then. [22:25] DaemonFC You can use Euro Castrol in an American car if you want to. [22:25] DaemonFC It won't hurt anything as long as the viscosity is correct. [22:25] DaemonFC But you can't use cheaper synthetic oils meant for an American car in a BMW. [22:25] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:28] *Now talking on #techrights [22:28] *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [22:28] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021 [22:28] *schestowitz (~roy@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:28] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz [22:28] *Now talking on #techrights [22:28] *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ Freenode | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. Official channels are at irc.techrights.org | For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [22:28] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@freenode-18vdut.5mai.fl0c.t29qgt.IP at Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 [22:28] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [22:28] *Now talking on #techrights [22:28] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Unofficial channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org [22:28] *Topic for #techrights set by superkuh!~superkuh@user/superkuh at Thu May 20 20:25:48 2021 [22:29] DaemonFC Jiffy Lube talked this guy I was dating into some dumbass "engine flush" procedure. [22:29] DaemonFC And after they did it and charged him $100, he could not add oil fast enough to the engine. [22:30] DaemonFC And I said, "Your van is a Chrysler and it somehow made it to 375,000 miles, God knows how, without any trouble, and you thought pouring harsh chemicals in it was going to improve something?". [22:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Actually, out of all the things the squealing could have been today, I got off relatively light. [22:31] DaemonFC The only cheaper part it could have been was the idler pulley. [22:32] DaemonFC Everything else is like alternator, air conditioner compressor, water pump.... [22:32] DaemonFC You need to make those expensive parts happy by not killing them with cheaper parts that you're not servicing. [22:32] DaemonFC Like, bad batteries will kill an alternator by overworking it. [22:32] DaemonFC Bad brake fluid will eventually corrode everything. [22:33] DaemonFC And the manufacturer's don't help anything, schestowitz-TR [22:33] DaemonFC They don't mention brake fluid changes at all. [22:33] DaemonFC They're deleting references to "service automatic transmission",. [22:33] *Seaduck- has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:33] DaemonFC So the transmissions die and then they go "Well, that's just the way the news goes. New Impala, sir?". [22:35] *Seaduck- (~seaduck@ys9kag65kxsiu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:41] MinceR 18 232710 < DaemonFC> Yeah, that happens when the engine burns up every 7 years. [22:41] MinceR also when parts are at a brutal markup [22:41] MinceR despite being made as cheaply as possible [22:47] DaemonFC Plastic and ripping half the car apart to get to it. [22:48] DaemonFC The ultimate driving machine! [22:48] DaemonFC *May be in shop on alternating days. [22:49] DaemonFC MinceR, The alternator looks newer than everything else in the engine compartment. [22:49] DaemonFC My guess is someone has changed that recently and nobody logged it. [22:50] DaemonFC There's a couple of "Inspect engine electrical components" in the carfax history, but that can mean anything. [22:50] DaemonFC Including checking the battery health. [22:52] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:52] MinceR :> [22:52] MinceR the ultimate being-repaired machine [22:55] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/Ejb4wqs.mp4 [22:56] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Ejb4wqs.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/Ejb4wqs.mp4 [22:56] *Seaduck| (~seaduck@ys9kag65kxsiu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:56] schestowitz-TR my older machine isn't reliable, I just had to reboot it [22:56] *Seaduck- has quit (connection closed) [22:56] schestowitz-TR crashed due to disk issue it seems, at least came back up [22:57] DaemonFC Jesus Christ..... [22:57] DaemonFC ONE TPMS sensor replaced at Pep Boys is over $250. [22:58] DaemonFC It's $160 at Chevy and $87 at Car-X [22:58] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:58] DaemonFC My God. For the cost of having one replaced at Pep Boys, I could almost get all four done at Car-X. ● Apr 18 [23:00] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ket9pi5gbeqcg.irc) has joined #techrights [23:00] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:00] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:01] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:26] <-- schestowitz_log (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has left this server (connection closed). [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:26] https://itsengine.com/why-are-bmw-oil-changes-so-expensive/ [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:26] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- itsengine.com | Why Are BMW Oil Changes So Expensive? How To Reduce Cost? [23:07] TR Bot Why Are BMW Oil Changes So Expensive? How To Reduce Cost? [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:27] "BMWs are more expensive to maintain than other vehicles." [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:27] Yeah, that happens when the engine burns up every 7 years. [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:27] MinceR, ^ [23:07] schestowitz-TR [22:28] --> schestowitz_log (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined this channel. [23:07] schestowitz-TR pasting due to downtime [23:07] schestowitz-TR nothing critical, but I do try hard to keep the record complete [23:07] schestowitz-TR checked other channels, nothing lost there [23:08] schestowitz-TR my system state restore list is in good shape now, KDE restores a lot of the session regardless [23:08] schestowitz-TR I really should hurry up moving remaining processes away from the flailing machine [23:10] TR News "In addition, vulnerability tests allow IT teams to identify weaknesses before they become an actual problem." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ [23:10] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: esecurityplanet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ [23:10] TR Bot Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools [23:10] TR News "The goal is not to be stealthy but to assess risks from the inside, like how hackers would deploy their attack after breaking into a network." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ [23:10] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: esecurityplanet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/ [23:13] DaemonFC MinceR, One of the people living HERE drives a BMW 3 series. [23:13] DaemonFC It says she got it from "Your Choice Autos". [23:14] DaemonFC That's where I was looking at that police Crown Victoria the other day. The bright red one. [23:14] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I don't tend to drive anything super fancy under the hood. [23:14] DaemonFC Pretty much everything in the Buick is a proven design that GM refined over more than 40 years. [23:15] DaemonFC It is a machine, and machines need to be serviced, but it's hardly the worst car out there. [23:21] TR News "Arch Linux isn't a bleeding edge distro, Gentoo isn't a bleeding edge distro and neither is Void or almost any linux distro because that would be a terrible experience that almost nobody would really want to use." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zj3yPS7nug [23:21] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=7zj3yPS7nug [23:21] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | You Don't Want A Bleeding Edge Linux Distro!! - Invidious [23:22] MinceR "if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it." [23:26] TR News Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163873 [23:26] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT | Tux Machines [23:26] DaemonFC MinceR, I guess I'm going to Discount Tire tomorrow. [23:26] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163874 [23:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:26] DaemonFC They said $63.75 per TPMS sensor. [23:29] TR News parted-3.5 released [stable] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163875 [23:29] TR Bot parted-3.5 released [stable] | Tux Machines [23:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:39] TR News A Simple Way Using Linux to Turn Your Old Laptop into a Security Monitoring Device https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx [23:39] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx ) [23:39] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: publish0x.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx [23:41] TR News The Ultimate Guide to Pacman Commands on Arch Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/getting-started-with-pacman-commands/ Source: makeuseof [23:41] TR Bot The Ultimate Guide to Pacman Commands on Arch Linux [23:43] TR News LHS Episode #463: Pop Goes the Badger http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163873#comment-33385 [23:43] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT | Tux Machines [23:50] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:50] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:51] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/18/tpms-sensor-replacement-in-the-buick/ [23:51] TR Bot TPMS sensor replacement in the Buick. BaronHK's Rants [23:51] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [23:52] *schestowitz-TR refreshes rss [23:54] DaemonFC https://www.howmuchisit.org/tire-pressure-sensor-cost/ [23:54] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: howmuchisit.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.howmuchisit.org/tire-pressure-sensor-cost/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.howmuchisit.org/tire-pressure-sensor-cost/ [23:54] TR Bot Pressure Sensor Replacement Cost | HowMuchIsIt.org [23:54] DaemonFC This article is old, but the price spread still favors Discount Tire. [23:56] *matey (~matey@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:57] matey "source coed" proof that women are welcome in the tech industry [23:58] matey /me doesnt think anyone is really "welcome" in the tech industry, because the tech industry is a fucking plantation [23:59] MinceR more like the wreck of a train that is carrying burning trash [23:59] matey it cant be both?