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| DaemonFC[m] | I think things will slow down with the virus a lot after it finishes burning itself out in the south. | Jul 18 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The stupid is always on parade down there and this isn't any different, and all of the most badly affected states are down there where the "heat just kills this thing dead" according to Trump. | Jul 18 00:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 43% of total cases in the US happened in the last 2 weeks. | Jul 18 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/white-house-states-hot-spots-task-force/index.html | Jul 18 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Task force report says 18 states in coronavirus 'red zone' should roll back reopening - CNNPolitics | Jul 18 00:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 95% of this flare up is happening in the states that tripped over themselves to do what Trump told them to do. | Jul 18 00:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Black people only know one level of volume on a stereo. | Jul 18 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Hear it from the space station." | Jul 18 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Are you sorry that slavery happened?" | Jul 18 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Getting sorrier by the minute! | Jul 18 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump has sent federal who knows what into Portland dressed up in camo to attack protesters. | Jul 18 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an election stunt. It has absolutely no chance of calming down the protests. If anything, it will make them worse. | Jul 18 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He doesn't care because he's nowhere near the shitstorm he's provoking. | Jul 18 00:25 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually he'll have them so pissed off again that they'll be looting because it's racist to say they're looting even though they're the ones who destroyed several city blocks in Waukegan by raiding a family-owned grocery store followed by Ross Dress for Less and a Popeyes. | Jul 18 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't forget Boost Mobile! They didn't. | Jul 18 00:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | By not getting it under control they're giving Trump an opening to come in with federal police and poking the bear to make himself look "strong unnnnngh" to all of the rednecks in Indiana. | Jul 18 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceRSays this virus isn't killing enough people fast enough. | Jul 18 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's two groups it's killing, mostly. Republicans and blacks. | Jul 18 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's because, as a group, they're more similar to each other than what it looks like on the surface. | Jul 18 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tendency to be opinionated, ignorant, loud, violent, and dumpy. | Jul 18 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, it's not really shocking me that when you hear "Person shoots store employee for asking them to wear a mask." the perp is either black or wearing a MAGA hat. | Jul 18 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: We need to pin a medal on the Coronavirus, honestly. The only ding I'm giving it on job performance is not going fast enough. | Jul 18 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the Republicans didn't treat the black people so badly, then the blacks would be overwhelmingly Republican. | Jul 18 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Many of them go to church and are very superstitious. So homophobic that if you are black and gay you keep it to yourself. | Jul 18 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You do gay shit in private and don't call it gay. Don't wear a condom because that makes it gay! | Jul 18 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've heard that from them! | Jul 18 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, what what..... You know? | Jul 18 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Protecting yourself from HIV "makes it gay". What is, the logic, there? | Jul 18 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Speculate. | Jul 18 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, the Democrats have been equally bad for black people because they don't much like them either, but they keep it to themselves. | Jul 18 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If there are black elected Democrats, most of them have money and don't have very much in common with the people who voted for them. | Jul 18 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/966744/patenting-simulation-methods-in-europe-the-hearing-of-the-enlarged-board-on-g-119-held-on-15-july-2020 | Jul 18 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Patenting Simulation Methods In Europe: The Hearing Of The Enlarged Board On G 1/19 Held On 15 July 2020 - Intellectual Property - European Union | Jul 18 00:36 | |
| schestowitz | zoobab: by Lara Sibley (Marks & Clerk), software patents boosters | Jul 18 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: The people who're more likely to be pro-Putin are the ones who are the least fortunate in this country. | Jul 18 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can admit that most white people are dumb as shit and believe in fairy tales. | Jul 18 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | It's ironic but also makes sense. | Jul 18 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just like, you know, pick a poison really. | Jul 18 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "It's ironic but also makes sense"> That's what's going on here too. The only thing worse than a Democrat is a Republican. | Jul 18 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :/ | Jul 18 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I'm making an analogy here :) | Jul 18 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | > Many of them go to church and are very superstitious. So homophobic that if you are black and gay you keep it to yourself. | Jul 18 00:39 |
| XRevan86 | Literally the mentality of most poor people. | Jul 18 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both parties try to appeal to (different) ignorant losers who have nothing and a tendency towards recidivism. | Jul 18 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "Literally the mentality of most "> Not really sure why anyone would care if another person is gay or not. | Jul 18 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that preemptive accusations of homophobia, racism, misogyny, etc. are made by people who are just using it as a crutch. | Jul 18 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Fear of different people. | Jul 18 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, this "senior software engineer at Microsoft" who is somehow both making millions of dollars there _and_ being oppressed for being black, at the same time. | Jul 18 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | that they'll ruin society or something | Jul 18 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | Break the Institution of Family | Jul 18 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | That's what Putin tries to sell anyway | Jul 18 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | That society is holding by Values, and deviants ruin them. | Jul 18 00:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it'll be over 70k today | Jul 18 00:43 |
| schestowitz | no "thiel effect" yet? | Jul 18 00:43 |
| schestowitz | or maybe only hospitals reporting deaths are impacted by that | Jul 18 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He backed away from that. | Jul 18 00:44 |
| *schestowitz uploads IRC logs | Jul 18 00:44 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So I think people who are most susceptible to all kinds of -phobia are people with the most basic primal view on society. | Jul 18 00:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: oh, good | Jul 18 00:44 |
| schestowitz | I was starting to worry about number manipulations getting too blatant | Jul 18 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | And that's the demographic that the United Russia and the Republican Party of the US are banking on. | Jul 18 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "DaemonFC: So I think people who "> Most people are ignorant assholes. The people who blast their stereo and sling dope are just a bit more obvious because they're annoying. | Jul 18 00:46 |
| MinceR | also known as the majority | Jul 18 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Depends on a place. | Jul 18 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of what Trump is doing is so off putting that he's not polling well with Independents, and not especially well with Republicans either. | Jul 18 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A candidate who can't get to 85% within their own party in the polls is not doing well. | Jul 18 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Moscow and St. Petersburg are the most protestful regions in Russia. The poorer, the less oppositional. | Jul 18 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | and the farther from the political centre | Jul 18 00:48 |
| schestowitz | St. Petersburg is not poor | Jul 18 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: These two cities are practically the only metropoleis of Russia. | Jul 18 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | so I of course meant every other city | Jul 18 00:52 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Jul 18 00:52 |
| schestowitz | St. Petersburg is only "lesser" compared to Finland in the region | Jul 18 00:53 |
| schestowitz | afaik, even better than estonia | Jul 18 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | Support for Putin ought to be higher in Saratov than in St. Petersburg is my point. | Jul 18 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I read about the protests | Jul 18 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Meduza seems to have a high opinion of that city | Jul 18 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I think it's still stationed in Riga | Jul 18 00:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Khabarovsk? | Jul 18 00:54 |
| schestowitz | though I don't hear much about its founder, I think she prefers to keep a low profile | Jul 18 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | Used to be the "capital" of Far East until 2018 | Jul 18 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | Quite a coincidence than it lost that status after United Russia failed there. | Jul 18 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | It also failed in Vladivostok, but then a miracle happened and it didn't. | Jul 18 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like how fast it went from "Remdesivir will save everyone!" to "It doesn't do very much. Also, we're out of Remdesivir!". | Jul 18 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86is busy hacking the vaccine research. | Jul 18 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm with Trevor Noah on this. I don't care how the Russians get ahold of it, because if they start vaccinating people there, this ends sooner. | Jul 18 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although cheating off the United States "which has the worst Coronavirus disaster in the world, is like copying off that kid in class who was drawing dicks on all of the desks". | Jul 18 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | New Orleans is the mother of all shitholes. | Jul 18 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When Hurricane Katrina hit and the feds dumped them on Houston, the crime went way up and never came back down again. | Jul 18 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mike Pence wrote a few weeks ago that "There is no Coronavirus Second Wave." on the White House website. | Jul 18 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hope someone saved that. It won't be there soon. | Jul 18 01:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/07/breaking-ag-e-advises-cjeu-to-rule-that.html?showComment=1594919795895#c6516012293727416578 | Jul 18 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: AG Øe advises CJEU to rule that, under the InfoSoc Directive, platforms like YouTube and Uploaded are not liable for making available infringing user-uploaded content - The IPKat | Jul 18 02:29 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Oh dear. The ECJ threatening to drift yet further from principle. Printers are liable for copyright infringement, because they make copies, even if someone else asked them to. Webhosts make copies of content (reproduction right) at the request of uploaders and then make them available to the public (communication to the public right) for their own commercial reasons. This is why they need the Article 14 eCommerce Directive exemption. | Jul 18 02:29 |
| schestowitz | The uploader is (at least) inducing that primary infringement and possibly infringing the reproduction right by making a copy on the platform´s system (before it is transcoded into another copy by the platform). | Jul 18 02:29 |
| schestowitz | Thought experiment: if the uploader dies, but the file continues to be streamed on YouTube, is there no longer an act of making available? Obviously not - it is a continuing tort. Most of these alleged problems would seem less pressing if people understood the role of indemnities in allocating liability. | Jul 18 02:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86The Russian Brony who is stealing Trump's mythical Coronavirus vaccine that will appear right after the election in such quantities! Believe Trump! It'll totally be here. Millions of doses. You'll get tired of all the doses! | Jul 18 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, but those Russians and their cyberattacks. | Jul 18 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They want this thing! | Jul 18 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right after the election the vaccine will "hit a snag" and won't be there. | Jul 18 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article244314437.html#storylink=readnext | Jul 18 02:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Frbc.ru%2Frbcfreenews%2F5f0ebde89a79478051177947 | Jul 18 02:35 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Discord, DoorDash, Postmates, Minecraft, Google, Grindr, Spectrum and | Jul 18 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | countless other websites crashed for some people as Cloudflare | Jul 18 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | glitched, news outlets report." | Jul 18 02:36 |
| MinceR | they should let go of their cancerflare addiction | Jul 18 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | @Shopify is down! My store is unreachable! I’m losing million of dollars every minute in potential sales! — William Shatner (@WilliamShatner) July 17, 2020 | Jul 18 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Grindr went down. | Jul 18 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | > I’m losing million of dollars every minute in potential sales! | Jul 18 02:36 |
| XRevan86 | Change the DNS record? | Jul 18 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Every minute, there's a loss of potentially millions in STDs. | Jul 18 02:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 18 02:36 |
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| XRevan86 | I know DNS can be a pain if TTL is too high, but um, not so much to warrant this. | Jul 18 02:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Rick & Morty were playing Minecraft. | Jul 18 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rick: "So let me get this straight. You build stuff to mine with and mine stuff to build with? Did fucking Jerry make this game?". | Jul 18 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://rickandmorty.fandom.com/wiki/Jerry_Smith | Jul 18 02:39 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: And then he loved it | Jul 18 02:40 |
| XRevan86 | Probably counts as an ad | Jul 18 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's an open source alternative to minecraft. | Jul 18 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | Minetest/Mineclone, yes | Jul 18 02:41 |
| schestowitz | minetest is one | Jul 18 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is it any good? | Jul 18 02:41 |
| schestowitz | looks ok | Jul 18 02:41 |
| schestowitz | i don't get the hype | Jul 18 02:41 |
| schestowitz | those games look ugly | Jul 18 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Minetest is a bit basic | Jul 18 02:41 |
| schestowitz | like things I played in the 90s | Jul 18 02:41 |
| XRevan86 | MineClone is a mod for it, which is alpha | Jul 18 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, if people are going to play it, it's better that there's an open source clone than Microsoft making money on it. | Jul 18 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The website to check if Discord was down was also down, because they were both on Cloudflare. | Jul 18 02:43 |
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| schestowitz | 86)2078/2020/07/14/watchtroll-keith-bergelt/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | 90)2044/2020/07/15/twitter-in-2020/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 91)2038/2020/07/16/epo-cancer-inside-eu/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 92)2017/2020/07/12/microsoft-and-de-icaza/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 94)2010/2020/07/15/irc-log-140720/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 95)2008/2020/07/13/curl-eee/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 96)2004/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 98)1982/2020/07/12/irc-log-110720/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | 99)1979/2020/07/12/cleaning-the-code/ | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: clownflare is broken | Jul 18 02:51 |
| schestowitz | And I could not be happier | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | any time it happens I'm totally vidicated | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | at work | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | online | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | I've long rejected all this clown computing outsourcing | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | your server works 100% fine | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | but the services are down | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | *vindicated | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | because of some third party | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | which is dumb | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | they increase their systems' complexity | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | unless it's a redundant array or fallback | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | but it is not | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | you assume clownflare will always have vastly better availability than your own | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | which is not necessarily the case | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | sometimes their caches are also f'ed | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | and out of date | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | to to different regions they will serve different files | Jul 18 02:52 |
| *XRevan86 hasn't seen a working cloudfront cache in years. | Jul 18 02:52 | |
| schestowitz | or no files at all | Jul 18 02:52 |
| schestowitz | imagine what it looks like when they don't transmit css files at all | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | worse than no images | Jul 18 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's being used only as "DDoS protection" these days. | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | the sites become barely readable until you flush or override cache or something | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: yes | Jul 18 02:53 |
| XRevan86 | i.e. as a third-party reverse proxy / load balancer | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | and lowering traffic | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | i.e. outsourcing the hosting | Jul 18 02:53 |
| schestowitz | and then they start charging you | Jul 18 02:54 |
| schestowitz | ISP or webhost creep | Jul 18 02:54 |
| schestowitz | they become like a webhost | Jul 18 02:54 |
| schestowitz | in the name of "DOSS protection" | Jul 18 02:54 |
| schestowitz | *DDOS | Jul 18 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're a Certificate Authority now. | Jul 18 02:55 |
| schestowitz | clownflare? | Jul 18 02:55 |
| schestowitz | wow | Jul 18 02:55 |
| schestowitz | who pays them for certs? | Jul 18 02:55 |
| schestowitz | it's obviously that as publicly-traded firms their loyalty is to their regime | Jul 18 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Now I just had to check if Shopify uses their certs, and they do | Jul 18 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | that explains everything | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | CAs like LetsEncrypt also make me raise a brow | Jul 18 02:56 |
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| schestowitz | it's like startcom and china, except the US version | Jul 18 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Element" (Riot) was down too. | Jul 18 02:56 |
| XRevan86 | so dependent they simply can't detach themselves from cloudflare temporarily | Jul 18 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cloudflare certificate. | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | good | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe they will learn a lesson | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | some clients of ours use clownflare | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | I hope it crashes and burns on them | Jul 18 02:56 |
| schestowitz | and then they ask us to deploy varnish or something, instead... | Jul 18 02:57 |
| XRevan86 | or træfik or haproxy or nginx | Jul 18 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Cloudflare offers an "I'm Under Attack" mode for customers | Jul 18 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | experiencing cyberattacks. Cloudflare claims this can mitigate advanced Layer 7 attacks by presenting a JavaScript computational challenge which must be completed by a user's browser before the user can access a website.[45]" | Jul 18 02:58 |
| schestowitz | Right now we're seeing what sites were dumb enough to have outsourced things to clownflare in the name if being available and robust, only to go offline because of a service they have zero control over | Jul 18 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which makes it annoying to use Tor. Which is the point, I'm sure. | Jul 18 02:58 |
| schestowitz | yup | Jul 18 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | Their captchas are somehow even more annoying than Google's | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | serves some agenda rather well | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | but... | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't know much about the roots of CF | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | founder and all | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | could be interesting | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | like the very dodgy roots of DDG | Jul 18 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It is, there's drama | Jul 18 02:59 |
| schestowitz | (iirc, DaemonFC[m] still uses the ddg scam) | Jul 18 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: What search engine do you use? | Jul 18 03:00 |
| schestowitz | some searx instance | Jul 18 03:00 |
| schestowitz | they keep falling offline, then I move to the next in line | Jul 18 03:00 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if they log and sell data | Jul 18 03:00 |
| schestowitz | if they do, well... what else is left to use? | Jul 18 03:00 |
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| schestowitz | let me check cf roots | Jul 18 03:01 |
| schestowitz | can we trust them telling their own history? https://www.cloudflare.com/our-story/ | Jul 18 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Our Story | Cloudflare | Jul 18 03:01 | |
| schestowitz | "All Systems Operational" https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ | Jul 18 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cloudflarestatus.com | Cloudflare Status | Jul 18 03:01 | |
| XRevan86 | https://wired.com/story/lee-holloway-devastating-decline-brilliant-young-coder | Jul 18 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Devastating Decline of a Brilliant Young Coder | WIRED | Jul 18 03:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/15/cloudflare-has-a-third-cofounder-lee-holloway-whos-credited-with-making-the-company-what-is-today/ | Jul 18 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cloudflare, in its IPO filing, thanks a third co-founder: Lee Holloway – TechCrunch | Jul 18 03:02 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I remember that one | Jul 18 03:02 |
| schestowitz | https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/15/cloudflare-has-a-third-cofounder-lee-holloway-whos-credited-with-making-the-company-what-is-today/ | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | "Cloudflare, a third co-founder who began the company with its higher-profile CEO, Matthew Prince, and its COO, Michelle Zatlyn, is little known outside the company for a very different reason. As Cloudflare states in an S-1 IPO filing that it made public today, “Tragically, Lee stepped down from Cloudflare in 2015, suffering the debilitating effects of Frontotemporal Dementia, a rare neurological disease.”' | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | It's basically a CDN | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | now they expand to more things | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | "Cloudflare did not respond today to questions about Holloway, but Prince and Zatlyn, in a section of the filing addressed to potential shareholders, credit Holloway as the “genius who architected our platform and recruited and led our early technical team.” In fact, they write, when picking a code name for the company’s IPO, they chose “Project Holloway” to honor his contribution, because the “technical decisions Lee made, | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | and the engineering team he built, are fundamental to the business we have become.”" | Jul 18 03:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Lee and his friends would cart their computers to each other's houses to play games together. He became curious about the machines themselves and started learning computer science, first in high school, then at a local community college and UC Santa Cruz, where an unlikely set of circumstances connected him with Matthew Prince. | Jul 18 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Then a young entrepreneur, Prince was pursuing an idea for an antispam software tool when he encountered Arthur Keller, a UC Santa Cruz computer science professor. Keller and his students had already worked out a very similar concept. Prince and Keller agreed to share a patent, along with Keller's students. One of those students was Lee, and Prince hired him on the spot. “I had no idea this school project would turn into something | Jul 18 03:04 |
| schestowitz | much bigger,” Lee later said in a video interview with a group called Founderly. | Jul 18 03:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 03:04 |
| schestowitz | I want to know where they worked beforehand and what on | Jul 18 03:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they've also been in the spotlight for hosting terrorist and CP websites. | Jul 18 03:04 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Kind of inevitable in their line of, err, work. | Jul 18 03:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +74,987 today. Another record. | Jul 18 03:05 |
| *schestowitz uses https://searx.feneas.org/ and finds too little info of use | Jul 18 03:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searx | Jul 18 03:05 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: congrats! | Jul 18 03:06 |
| schestowitz | next stop 100k | Jul 18 03:06 |
| schestowitz | israel moves into lockdown today, gyms shut and all | Jul 18 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nah. | Jul 18 03:06 |
| schestowitz | for just 1.5k cases a day | Jul 18 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll spare themselves the embarrassment by curbing testing. | Jul 18 03:06 |
| schestowitz | us cruising on with 75k | Jul 18 03:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Defaults to Bing | Jul 18 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Waukegan's test site was moved by the state of Illinois to a "more central location". | Jul 18 03:06 |
| schestowitz | because what's a thousand dead people in freezer-trucks a day anyway? | Jul 18 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | Though not exactly "defaults". Is Bing the only option in Searx these days? | Jul 18 03:07 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: oh.. | Jul 18 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That location, of course, is where it's inconvenient for the people who actually need testing to get to. | Jul 18 03:07 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: how do you know/can tell? | Jul 18 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, there's DDG there too, ticked off | Jul 18 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://searx.feneas.org/preferences | Jul 18 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searx | Jul 18 03:07 | |
| XRevan86 | and Qwant, Startpage, Yandex | Jul 18 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | ah, found Google, it's ticked | Jul 18 03:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Sorry, it's Google & Bing | Jul 18 03:08 |
| schestowitz | I see google enabled | Jul 18 03:08 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I see both | Jul 18 03:08 |
| schestowitz | so now what you said at first | Jul 18 03:08 |
| XRevan86 | Didn't see it at first. | Jul 18 03:09 |
| schestowitz | they get page titled wrong | Jul 18 03:09 |
| schestowitz | they shot url breadcrumbs | Jul 18 03:09 |
| schestowitz | a bug or misconfig I assume | Jul 18 03:09 |
| schestowitz | *show | Jul 18 03:09 |
| *schestowitz used to use scroogle for many years until google killed it | Jul 18 03:09 | |
| XRevan86 | Yea, I also used it. | Jul 18 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroogled | Jul 18 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Scroogled - Wikipedia | Jul 18 03:10 | |
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| schestowitz | on "spying cloudflare" I see only puff pieces | Jul 18 03:10 |
| schestowitz | on how CF supposedly fights for your privacy | Jul 18 03:10 |
| schestowitz | which is hilarious spin | Jul 18 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Bing for Schools initiative" | Jul 18 03:10 |
| schestowitz | they suck up data from other countries | Jul 18 03:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :/ | Jul 18 03:11 |
| schestowitz | and facilitate snooping on packets relayed via the US | Jul 18 03:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Hitler with Puppies Foundation | Jul 18 03:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of dumb to use a non-LTS distribution really. | Jul 18 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just involves constantly having to upgrade software and potentially bring in lots of new bugs. | Jul 18 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The six month releases of Ubuntu are basically beta tests for the next LTS. | Jul 18 03:18 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18598041 | Jul 18 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Number of #covid19 deaths will pass 600k in about an hour. US again broke the universal record for cases per day (75k). All of #europe combined was under 9k for that day. | Jul 18 03:27 | |
| schestowitz | 5,555 deaths worldwide | Jul 18 03:27 |
| schestowitz | special number | Jul 18 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Half the income for the S&P 500 companies comes from outside the US, much of it from Europe. | Jul 18 03:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With Europe's economy in the toilet, it is impossible that the S&P 500 could "really" be where it's at. | Jul 18 03:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 18/7/2020: Monado Work, Wine 5.13 Release, and Social Events at GUADEC 2020 http://techrights.org/2020/07/17/social-events-at-guadec-2020/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/5853b18f-ef48-4b2d-9d4f-6a3278c75230] | Jul 18 03:29 | |
| schestowitz | maybe it's propped up by more national debt | Jul 18 03:30 |
| schestowitz | which I assume is over 25,000 billion dollars now | Jul 18 03:30 |
| schestowitz | I remember worrying when it was over 10,000 | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | around the time Obama was coming to Office | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Before Bush it wasn't as alarming | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | let me check | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | Remember that after causing public panic the oligarchs looted the treasury | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | up to 4 trillion dollars | Jul 18 03:31 |
| schestowitz | to save shareholders | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | as if a bad investment needs insurance from taxpayers | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | instead of saying, "oops! Sorry! Bad investment. You lost your money'" | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | So airlines looted the taxpayers | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | bought back their stock | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | to bring back the money to shareholders | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | staff then sacked | Jul 18 03:32 |
| schestowitz | but the shareholders was 'insured' by the public | Jul 18 03:33 |
| schestowitz | which will pay with austerity and the collapse of the nation's economy | Jul 18 03:33 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt | Jul 18 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 1942-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Historical | Jul 18 03:33 | |
| schestowitz | wow, the debt ballooned to almost 27 trillion in just one year | Jul 18 03:34 |
| schestowitz | if trump has another term, he can do his seventh bankruptcy | Jul 18 03:34 |
| schestowitz | but of a nation, not his companies, which looted the taxpayers under his watch | Jul 18 03:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18598067 | Jul 18 03:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US national debt cannot be repaid. The nation was looted by its oligarchs, more so under #covid19 (about 4 trillion dollars looted from the taxpayers) https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt | Jul 18 03:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, now there's going to be another bill where you get $1,200 maybe and they get trillions. | Jul 18 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I don't feel guilty over my bankruptcy. | Jul 18 03:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They looted us out of so much that they can afford to eat it. | Jul 18 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what leading this country like Nancy and Donald does. | Jul 18 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone sees what goes on and this "Do whatever you can get by with." takes root. | Jul 18 03:38 |
| schestowitz | Nanny Pesoski | Jul 18 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know? "They stole trillions and they deserve mass bankruptcy now.". | Jul 18 03:39 |
| schestowitz | And Nanny Donald | Jul 18 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks don't care about bankruptcy. | Jul 18 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They just go to Congress and get it all back, from the taxpayers. | Jul 18 03:40 |
| schestowitz | anyway, we're only a tad better off here | Jul 18 03:40 |
| schestowitz | more solidarity, I think, but still rather unequal | Jul 18 03:40 |
| schestowitz | Watch the borrowings here https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt | Jul 18 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United Kingdom Public Sector Net Borrowing | 1993-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Jul 18 03:40 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "39,488" bankruptcy filings in IL-ND for 2019 | Jul 18 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How is the count going up? It's almost doubled in the last month even though it hasn't been 2019 for a while now. | Jul 18 03:42 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt | Jul 18 03:42 |
| schestowitz | "The UK reported a GBP 54.5 billion budget deficit in May of 2020 compared to a GBP 5 billion gap a year earlier and higher than expectations of a GBP 47.3 billion shortfall. It is a new record budget deficit due both to the introduction of public health measures and from new government policies to support businesses and individuals during the coronavirus pandemic. Excluding public sector-owned banks, borrowing was GBP 55.2 billion, | Jul 18 03:42 |
| schestowitz | roughly nine times more than in May 2019, and also the highest borrowing ever. Borrowing in April to May 2020 is estimated to have been GBP 103.7 billion, GBP 87 billion more than in the same period last year, the highest borrowing in any April to May period on record. Borrowing in April 2020 was revised down by GBP 13.6 billion to GBP 47.8 billion, largely because of stronger than previously estimated tax receipts and National | Jul 18 03:42 |
| schestowitz | Insurance contributions and lower expenditure than previously estimated associated with the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme." | Jul 18 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Some days this week had 100 filings. | Jul 18 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's still going up. | Jul 18 03:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18598076 | Jul 18 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Go here, press "MAX", start panicking https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt | Jul 18 03:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: next week or the week after we close the office | Jul 18 03:43 |
| schestowitz | the company's HQ | Jul 18 03:43 |
| schestowitz | we'll all be remote workers | Jul 18 03:43 |
| schestowitz | which is perhaps expected | Jul 18 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Apparently, 3dFX almost got involuntarily Chapter 7'd. | Jul 18 03:44 |
| schestowitz | the office was a financial burden on us, little benefit to it | Jul 18 03:44 |
| schestowitz | we're distributing among us all the items in the Office | Jul 18 03:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their creditors saw that they had some assets left and didn't believe that the company could go on, so they sold themselves to Nvidia. | Jul 18 03:44 |
| schestowitz | although we're too far away to go and take it... travel would cost more than what the items are valued | Jul 18 03:44 |
| schestowitz | I think that at least here the gov. TRIED to support businesses and not just a few oligarchs | Jul 18 03:45 |
| schestowitz | the US is always a step ahead, far more corrupt | Jul 18 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. This unemployment crisis is getting worse by the week and the government thinks they can manufacture approval for Trump by lying to everyone when they all know what's happening to their families. | Jul 18 03:45 |
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| schestowitz | Germany's 2 years of paying back debt undone in 2 months https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/government-debt | Jul 18 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | Germany Public Debt | 1995-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Historical | Chart | News | Jul 18 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ignore msm | Jul 18 03:46 |
| schestowitz | they lie about unemployment | Jul 18 03:46 |
| schestowitz | they also did under obama | Jul 18 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, which is why he's denying BLS lies. | Jul 18 03:46 |
| schestowitz | it's the oligarchs trying to calm down the 'masses' | Jul 18 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden was part of his administration. | Jul 18 03:46 |
| schestowitz | by giving them false expectation of imminent prospects | Jul 18 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he admits they lie, it implicates their nominee as well as Trump. | Jul 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | and repeating trump lies about economy back to normal by year's end | Jul 18 03:47 |
| schestowitz | it never came back to normal after 2007 | Jul 18 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hard to figure out where that lands, exactly. Probably Democrats get hit worse because Republicans don't care about anything else Trump does that's illegal and corrupt. | Jul 18 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's waving around the invasion of Portland as a trophy while the fucking stupid idiots running that state don't interfere at all. | Jul 18 03:48 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/poland/government-debt | Jul 18 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | Poland Government Debt | 1998-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Historical | Chart | Jul 18 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | one trillion in debt | Jul 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | and edging up sharply now | Jul 18 03:50 |
| schestowitz | country of almost 40 million people | Jul 18 03:51 |
| schestowitz | poverty there must be fast increasing | Jul 18 03:51 |
| schestowitz | though they handled covid19 relatively well | Jul 18 03:51 |
| schestowitz | no data on japan | Jul 18 03:51 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/government-debt | Jul 18 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | TRADING ECONOMICS | 300.00 INDICATORS | 196 COUNTRIES | Jul 18 03:51 | |
| schestowitz | but their debt is notoriously vast | Jul 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | canceling the Olympics can't have done them any good, either | Jul 18 03:52 |
| insmodppa | Japan is immensely corrupt and sweeps everything under the carpet, no surprise there. | Jul 18 03:52 |
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| schestowitz | last I saw, japan has like 10 trillion in debt | Jul 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | and people said, don't worry | Jul 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | it's OK because <some bullshit> | Jul 18 03:52 |
| schestowitz | like a "magic" economy | Jul 18 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll just have to sell more Nintendos. | Jul 18 03:53 |
| schestowitz | they never recovered from the way they started | Jul 18 03:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they make it all in China | Jul 18 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, pretty much. | Jul 18 03:53 |
| schestowitz | even taiwan makes it all in mainland china | Jul 18 03:53 |
| schestowitz | same issue as in the US | Jul 18 03:53 |
| schestowitz | they became dependent on cheap foreign labour | Jul 18 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They take failure pretty seriously in Japan it seems. | Jul 18 03:54 |
| schestowitz | and their own people work like 100 hours a week | Jul 18 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of suicide. | Jul 18 03:54 |
| schestowitz | some to their death | Jul 18 03:54 |
| schestowitz | not compared to east europe | Jul 18 03:54 |
| schestowitz | but japan has suicide cults, they say.. | Jul 18 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy who did that weird Nintendo console with the ray tracing that flopped walked out in front of a bus or something. | Jul 18 03:54 |
| schestowitz | if you lived in a shoebox you work 100 hours a week to pay rent for, you too would reconsider your very existence | Jul 18 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was apparently a "fad" of killing yourself with Hydrogen Sulfide gas. | Jul 18 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "if you lived in a shoebox you wo"> Yeah. Been there. | Jul 18 03:55 |
| schestowitz | hmm | Jul 18 03:55 |
| schestowitz | us had cheap food, at least | Jul 18 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Close. 70 hour weeks certain places, barely paying the bills. | Jul 18 03:56 |
| schestowitz | here too not many rely on food banks yet... but that might be changing | Jul 18 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This time so much bad stuff happened so fast that it was a bankruptcy. | Jul 18 03:56 |
| schestowitz | to starve here you need to really be in a really bad state | Jul 18 03:56 |
| insmodppa | http://disposableworkers.com/ | Jul 18 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-disposableworkers.com | Japan's Disposable Workers | Jul 18 03:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I told my mom about that suicide forest and she was like "DEMONS!". | Jul 18 03:57 |
| schestowitz | insmodppa: this site barely works with Firefox | Jul 18 03:59 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: born-again magaist | Jul 18 03:59 |
| schestowitz | there are some articles about the mental effects of this downturn | Jul 18 04:00 |
| schestowitz | another is, people not eating enough or eating improperly into obesity | Jul 18 04:00 |
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| schestowitz | due to depression and carelessness about the future | Jul 18 04:00 |
| schestowitz | hey, it's not like people's dating life si thriving | Jul 18 04:00 |
| schestowitz | yesterday i spoke on the phone for half an hour with someone who's kid (about 3 y-o now) makes it very hard to work remotely | Jul 18 04:01 |
| schestowitz | and imagine he had to feed 3 people | Jul 18 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The virus has pretty much destroyed everything. | Jul 18 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Grindr is still up because they're gross. | Jul 18 04:01 |
| schestowitz | from a small apartment, not even an office | Jul 18 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they're going to risk HIV and shit they don't care about COVID. | Jul 18 04:01 |
| insmodppa | schestowitz: I had to disable styles to view the images on that website. | Jul 18 04:02 |
| schestowitz | no data for china https://tradingeconomics.com/china/government-debt | Jul 18 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | TRADING ECONOMICS | 300.00 INDICATORS | 196 COUNTRIES | Jul 18 04:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I barely buy anything except food and to pay rent. | Jul 18 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've even figured out how to cut into my personal grooming expenses. | Jul 18 04:03 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt | Jul 18 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | Russia Government Debt | 2008-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Historical | Chart | Jul 18 04:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Government Debt in Russia increased to 12760 RUB Billion in the first quarter of 2020 from 12564.70 RUB Billion in the fourth quarter of 2019." | Jul 18 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'd say anxiety about the future is a lot of that. | Jul 18 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I'm feeling that way I can't imagine others don't. | Jul 18 04:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yup, makes sense | Jul 18 04:04 |
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| schestowitz | there are many far worse off then you | Jul 18 04:04 |
| schestowitz | your spouse is still a breadwinner | Jul 18 04:04 |
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| schestowitz | *then | Jul 18 04:04 |
| schestowitz | *>than | Jul 18 04:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe will reverse-mortgage or remortgage the home on the cheap | Jul 18 04:05 |
| schestowitz | anything to get by another year | Jul 18 04:05 |
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| schestowitz | senior citizens will leave nothing to their indebted kids | Jul 18 04:05 |
| schestowitz | unless they die with covid19 and have no medical bills to pay | Jul 18 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. | Jul 18 04:05 |
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| schestowitz | then the kids can 'liquidate' the parents' homes, on the cheap (who's buying houses now anyway?) | Jul 18 04:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By shutting down the ACA exchanges, Trump added a lot to the 5.2 million more who have no health insurance now. | Jul 18 04:06 |
| schestowitz | the firm we bought the house through started spamming us 2 weeks ago | Jul 18 04:06 |
| schestowitz | and again today | Jul 18 04:06 |
| schestowitz | they dumped their whole email database | Jul 18 04:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll avoid medical care at all costs and then possibly just limp into the ER where they have to be seen, exposing other people who are there for a heart attack or something. | Jul 18 04:06 |
| schestowitz | even with wrong associated named | Jul 18 04:06 |
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| schestowitz | and put everyone on a spammer mailing list... like almost a decade... so they're really THAT deseparate | Jul 18 04:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "even with wrong associated named"> schestowitz: I've been getting some weird account takeovers, so nothing important afaik. | Jul 18 04:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I scrambled all my passwords with one time random passwords. | Jul 18 04:07 |
| schestowitz | I had to "unsubscribe"... from something they subscribed me to because 7 years ago I gave them my email | Jul 18 04:07 |
| schestowitz | insurance companies do GREAT now | Jul 18 04:08 |
| schestowitz | https://truthout.org/articles/housing-activists-unite-to-fight-mass-evictions-and-defund-police/ | Jul 18 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Housing Activists Unite to Fight Mass Evictions and Defund Police | Jul 18 04:08 | |
| schestowitz | I am trying to find the article about insurance companies | Jul 18 04:08 |
| schestowitz | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/15/economy-still-deep-recession-millionaire-trump-adviser-complains-600-week-boost | Jul 18 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | It's a Pandemic, But Millionaire Trump Adviser Complains $600-Per-Week Boost in Unemployment Benefits Is Too Generous | Common Dreams News | Jul 18 04:09 | |
| schestowitz | I can't find it, but it doesn't matter | Jul 18 04:09 |
| schestowitz | Occupy WS (OWS) will be peanuts compared to what's coming | Jul 18 04:09 |
| schestowitz | people evicted or on the verge of it would stage big protests and make no concessions | Jul 18 04:09 |
| schestowitz | https://tradingeconomics.com/france/government-debt | Jul 18 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | France General Government Debt | 1995-2019 Data | 2020-2022 Forecast | Historical | Jul 18 04:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Government Debt in France decreased to 2380.10 EUR Billion in the fourth quarter of 2019 from 2414.70 EUR Billion in the third quarter of 2019." | Jul 18 04:10 |
| schestowitz | Interesting they managed to lower it | Jul 18 04:10 |
| schestowitz | but no data since covid | Jul 18 04:11 |
| schestowitz | so they might not be providing any | Jul 18 04:11 |
| schestowitz | one can extrapolate from press reports and such.. | Jul 18 04:11 |
| schestowitz | their debt ballooned to about 3 trillion dollars since Macron the Rothschild wunderking took over | Jul 18 04:11 |
| schestowitz | *kind | Jul 18 04:12 |
| schestowitz | Spain debt https://tradingeconomics.com/spain/government-debt | Jul 18 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | Spain General Government Debt | 1990-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | Historical | Jul 18 04:12 | |
| schestowitz | compare that to US | Jul 18 04:12 |
| schestowitz | US is like 20 times higher a national debt | Jul 18 04:12 |
| schestowitz | with 6 times or so the population | Jul 18 04:12 |
| schestowitz | will they sell off USAF for money to pay off the debt? :-D | Jul 18 04:13 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt | Jul 18 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of countries by external debt - Wikipedia | Jul 18 04:15 | |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt | Jul 18 04:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of countries by public debt - Wikipedia | Jul 18 04:15 | |
| schestowitz | belgium debt is 103.184 of GDP | Jul 18 04:16 |
| schestowitz | % wise | Jul 18 04:16 |
| schestowitz | US 107.785& | Jul 18 04:16 |
| schestowitz | % | Jul 18 04:16 |
| schestowitz | so basically the US owes more than it's worth | Jul 18 04:16 |
| schestowitz | Yemen 141.014% | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | but it's ruined by war | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | even famine | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | UK 87.029% | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | so still owe less than the value of the economy | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | as per 2017 | Jul 18 04:17 |
| schestowitz | Whoa!! | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | Japan 236.388% | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | worst in the world | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | so they owe like 2.5 times what their economy is worth | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | Greece 181.906% | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | second worst | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | with austerity | Jul 18 04:18 |
| schestowitz | their olympic parade could not have helped, unneeded spendings | Jul 18 04:19 |
| schestowitz | Italy 131.454% | Jul 18 04:20 |
| schestowitz | no wonder they entertained austerity | Jul 18 04:20 |
| schestowitz | doomed like Greece | Jul 18 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Portugal 125.619% | Jul 18 04:20 |
| schestowitz | (IMF< 2017) | Jul 18 04:20 |
| schestowitz | 110.864% in Singapore | Jul 18 04:21 |
| schestowitz | I thought they'd not be deep in debt, given all the banking stuff there... | Jul 18 04:21 |
| schestowitz | UK is 29th | Jul 18 04:21 |
| schestowitz | HK 0.055% | Jul 18 04:22 |
| schestowitz | very different from singapore | Jul 18 04:22 |
| schestowitz | http://poweredbyorange.com/10-countries-with-the-lowest-debt-available/ | Jul 18 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-poweredbyorange.com | 10 Countries with the Lowest Debt Available - Powered by Orange | Jul 18 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | "Botswana has a debt to GDP ratio of 12.84 percent with a population of 2.3 million people. Landlocked in southern Africa, in 2009, Botswana accepted $7 million from the United States government helping them to reduce their debt while committing to increased conservation efforts. Since then, Botswana has produced stable fiscal policies despite overexploitation of resources having a major effect on the country." | Jul 18 04:23 |
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| schestowitz | so few countries 'live within their means' | Jul 18 04:24 |
| schestowitz | so many still borrow to broaden so-called 'opportunities' | Jul 18 04:24 |
| schestowitz | and in japan they already work themselves to death | Jul 18 04:24 |
| schestowitz | and to debt | Jul 18 04:24 |
| schestowitz | as if they can even pay that back in full | Jul 18 04:24 |
| schestowitz | what if all this 'investment' or borrowings for 'growth' lead to bankruptcy? Then they sell the country to the lenders | Jul 18 04:25 |
| schestowitz | China did that in Africa | Jul 18 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, some still get a raise in Illinois because the minimum wage bill is still kicking in. | Jul 18 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where it was legal, Burger King cut employee pay 50 cents an hour during the pandemic. | Jul 18 04:25 |
| schestowitz | causing whole countries to default on debt China knew they would be incapable of paying back | Jul 18 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Awful. | Jul 18 04:25 |
| schestowitz | then they took over their whole public infra | Jul 18 04:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: still not capping CEO pay | Jul 18 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Chicago made horrible deals to sell off its parking meters and the Skyway to a bank. | Jul 18 04:26 |
| schestowitz | because they totally control the political establishment at state and national level | Jul 18 04:26 |
| schestowitz | even international levels, such as wto | Jul 18 04:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh no, they'll never cap that. They have to stiff people who are making close to minimum wage 5% of their pay. | Jul 18 04:26 |
| schestowitz | to these people it's a big diff | Jul 18 04:27 |
| schestowitz | lie, whether they eat bread or pasta | Jul 18 04:27 |
| schestowitz | or whether they can afford a second kid | Jul 18 04:27 |
| schestowitz | *lie->like | Jul 18 04:27 |
| schestowitz | +9,608 in California | Jul 18 04:28 |
| schestowitz | so it's becomign big in the west coast too now | Jul 18 04:28 |
| schestowitz | tx+fl: 20k+ | Jul 18 04:28 |
| schestowitz | 122 deaths in CA | Jul 18 04:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: We've been eating a lot of pasta dishes. | Jul 18 04:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's cheap and easy to add some fish or chicken and some cheap vegetables to. | Jul 18 04:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't bought any beef in over a month. | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Germany has just 3 deaths same day | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | beef is risky | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | esp. if you touch is raw | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | and if it's not packed hermeticaly | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | and if it's not packed hermetically | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | anyway, stop eating animals | Jul 18 04:30 |
| schestowitz | this is why we get these viruses in the first place | Jul 18 04:31 |
| schestowitz | us will soon be 7th worst in the world for covid deaths/capita | Jul 18 04:32 |
| schestowitz | chile racing with them | Jul 18 04:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My hearing is much better than average, especially for my age. | Jul 18 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard a woman screaming and almost called the police. | Jul 18 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Turns out Mandy is watching a horror movie in the other room on his earbuds. | Jul 18 04:33 |
| insmodppa | schestowitz: "causing whole countries to default on debt China knew they would be incapable of paying back" <- They wrote off those loans: https://web.archive.org/web/20200623121014/https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1190846.shtml | Jul 18 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | China suspends debt repayment for 77 developing nations, regions - Global Times | Jul 18 04:35 | |
| schestowitz | Leeds is baaack https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53449068 | Jul 18 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Championship: Leeds United promoted to Premier League after 16-year absence - BBC Sport | Jul 18 04:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | What about that economic minister in Germany that killed himself because the virus was going to be so bad? | Jul 18 04:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: why is mandy watching his sister? | Jul 18 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Good one. | Jul 18 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His sister is a real piece of work. | Jul 18 04:36 |
| schestowitz | insmodppa: article removed? | Jul 18 04:37 |
| schestowitz | globaltimes so might be a PR stunt | Jul 18 04:37 |
| schestowitz | maybe referred payments | Jul 18 04:37 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can always sell off some shoeracks for plastic with water in it | Jul 18 04:38 |
| schestowitz | "The move shows that China is actively assuming its global responsibility " | Jul 18 04:38 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jul 18 04:38 |
| schestowitz | not propaganda for cpC at all | Jul 18 04:38 |
| schestowitz | It's like reading Microsoft press releases | Jul 18 04:38 |
| insmodppa | Yeah, Global Times is a government news outlet whose servers suck. Couldn't access it so I had to use archive.org. There are a number of articles from last month, you can find it on search. | Jul 18 04:39 |
| schestowitz | "global responsibility" | Jul 18 04:39 |
| schestowitz | ask countries with parts like islands annexed by CHina about this "global responsibility" | Jul 18 04:39 |
| schestowitz | also ignoring ICC rulings | Jul 18 04:39 |
| schestowitz | this is very north korea-like reporting | Jul 18 04:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXxvEPqhVVw | Jul 18 04:40 |
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| insmodppa | Articles from a bunch of different news outlets, I mean. | Jul 18 04:40 |
| schestowitz | Commie Funk | Jul 18 04:41 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/07/16/european-commission-would-welcome-swift-german-ratification-of-unified-patent-court-agreement/#comments | Jul 18 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | European Commission would welcome swift German ratification of Unified Patent Court Agreement - Kluwer Patent Blog | Jul 18 04:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | The last thing the EU Commission wants is to re-open the can of worms that it created by not providing robust entry and exit of membership of the system, and by not really providing a flexible mechanism relating to the seat of the courts, instead relying, as usual, on a political compromise (one might be so unkind to say, “as usual”). The statement from a French commissioner is therefore totally unsurprising, given that France was | Jul 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | the first country/major user of the UPC system to ratify. I do find that the comms unit adding on a Covid-crisis hanger as some sort of justification crass in the extreme, as it clearly indicates that the Commission will use anything it can to try and justify its position. | Jul 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | It would be nice, for once, if the legal issues surrounding the UPC (and there are several) could actually be sorted out before the whole things gets ratified and dragged screaming into existence, but of course, that would take another umpteen years of negotiating and horsetrading… | Jul 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 04:49 |
| schestowitz | also: | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | ' | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | One can only agree with Concerned Observer when he says that Mr Breton “uses carefully selected language to make statements that, whilst not strictly untrue, are highly misleading”, I would simply add that Mr. Breton has a devil’s brass. One could also say that he takes his desires for reality. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | His reply is beyond comprehension. He denies the mere fact that UK has not yet informed the UPCA member states of its withdrawal of the UPCA. I doubt that the UK will do so in the next months. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | As the UPCA does not provide an exit clause, exit can only be done according to the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VLCT). | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Mr Tilmann has suggested that a declaration under Art 25(2) VLCT would be enough for UK to withdraw from the UPCA. Serious doubts are allowed, as Art 25(2) VLCT presupposes a provisional application of the UPCA. How is a provisional application possible when UK is still in it, but does not want to participate? | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | In the explanatory notes to the new ratification bill, the Ministry of Justice speaks about a common declaration of the UPCA member states under Art 31(3) VLCT. In view of the arduous negotiation which lead to the split of the Central Division over three locations, and the desire of Italy to get the London Section, it borders on political naivety to think that the UPCA member states will agree on the workload of the London Section to | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | be “provisionally” transferred to Paris and Munich. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | If the UK withdraws from the UPCA, Art 56(2) VLCT will apply. According to this article the UK would remain for 12 months member of the UPCA. How does Mr Breton envisage the functioning of the UPCA, with the London Section open when the UK is still in the UPCA, but does not want to participate? | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Contrary to what Jan Van Hoey thinks, Boris has no reason to pull the plug and send any notification to the EU secretariat. By keeping a foot within the UPCA and one foot outside, he is in the advantageous position of paralysing the whole UPCA and the entry in activity of the UPC. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | This gives the UK legal industry time to prepare a system which can enter in direct competition with the UPC. This has been mentioned a few time by members of the UK legal industry and has provoked panic among the supporters of the UPC. They want to be quicker as the Brits and are prepared to take any risk in this endeavour. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | A corrected, not to say a honest version, of Mr Breton’s statement could look like this: | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | The UP will only be an effective tool for big businesses lobbying for instance via Business Europe to protect their inventions on the European market at a competitive price, as big business can save the fees they would need to pay if they wanted to validate in all member states of the UPCA, which beside a few exceptions is not the case as the average number of validations in UPCA member states is very modest. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | The UPC will only offer the possibility to these big businesses to enforce their patents at a European Union level with the help of large internationally active lawyers firms as only the big business are in a position to afford the corresponding lawyer fees. The UPC will not enhance legal certainty as it is simply adding another lawyer of case law onto existing case law as it will never be valid for all EU member states. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | The case law of the UPC could even be diverging from the case law of the boards of appeal of the EPO in matters of validity, but we do not care as we think that the role of the boards of appeal of the EPO will dwindle once the UPC has been established and its case law becomes the leading case law in Europe. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | That an opposition procedure before the EPO is way cheaper as a nullity procedure before the UPC is irrelevant as the big businesses we support can afford the costs of proceedings before the UPC. That SMEs would even have difficulty to foot the costs of procedures before the EPO is just an aside. They get some fee reductions and they should be happy with what we give them. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | It might at a glance help reducing costs on the official fee side, but certainly not on the lawyer’s fee side. It will not further boost innovation in Europe, as it opens a single door allowing a centralised attack on European industry as the number of patents granted to companies residing in UPCA member states is only a third of all the patents granted by the EPO. The prime beneficiaries of the UPC are the big businesses represented | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | by Business Europe which have deep enough pockets to foot the bill. US trolls are eagerly waiting to launch frontal attacks on European Industry. | Jul 18 04:50 |
| schestowitz | It will be key for the economic recovery following the COVID pandemic only in the fertile imagination of those wanting to push the UPCA at any cost as it serves their direct interests. Any explanation about the beneficial effect of the UPCA for the recovery following the COVID pandemic has not been justified in the slightest, but we urge you to accept it because we say so. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | We have given up mentioning SMEs as beneficiaries of the UPC as it is a blatant lie which has been clearly demonstrated in academic studies. Now we want to brutally push the UPC through and we do not care about those who will be left behind. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | The Commission knows very well that the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the European Union does necessarily affect the ratification process of the UPCA in Germany, but we prefer to ignore it as it is against the interest of those lobbying for the UPC, like Business Europe and internationally acting lawyer’s firms. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | The United Kingdom signed and ratified the United Patent Court Agreement when it was still an EU Member State and in its capacity of Member State. The United Kingdom has ceased to be an EU Member State and, therefore, will not participate in the unitary patent system after the end of the transition period, given that participation in that system, including the UPCA, is only open to EU Member States. This is the only point which is true | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | in my statement. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | We prefer to carefully ignore the fate of the London Section of the Central Division that is the presence in a non-UPCA Member State of a jurisdiction refusing to accept supremacy of EU law. We simple hope that the other UPCA member states will swallow without any reaction the trick thought of by distinguished lawyers lobbying for the UPC that is to “provisionally” transfer the duties of the London Section to either Paris or Munich | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | at our convenience. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | The Commission would welcome a swift ratification of the UPCA by Germany, as it would allow us to do what we wanted to do from the beginning that is to create a fait accompli which might be difficult to undo. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | That we take the risk to end up in a total legal mess is irrelevant as our only aim is to have something at hand for the benefit of big businesses represented by Business Europe and the lawyers supporting them. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | That the CJEU might be of different opinion is also irrelevant as we do what we think fit for our allies. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | To sum it up, Mr Patrick Breyer is a spoilsport who should have kept quiet and not bring up embarrassing questions. For this he deserves the reply he got. We do what we want and as a former German chancellor uttered once: basta! | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | It might be worth mentioning that the former president of the EPO, Mr Breton and the actual president of Business Europe are good friends, the first two being even in the same French political party. That might explain a lot. It is certainly not forbidden to have good friends, but at this level its leaves a strong unpleasant feeling. No need to expand. | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | corruption | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | exported from EPO to EU | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | what a disgrace | Jul 18 04:51 |
| schestowitz | and they could contain it by targeting the EPO earlier, zoobab | Jul 18 04:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Capital One managed to leak millions of customer details out through Amazon' Clown Computing system last year. | Jul 18 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no consequences so it happens all the time. | Jul 18 05:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suspect that next week will be bad, but at this point, what else is new.... | Jul 18 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About 6,000 Americans died of the Coronavirus this week and all we get to hear about is how it's the common cold and anyone who is trying to get out of the way is a pussy. | Jul 18 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's that right-wing fake macho crap and they're getting themselves killed with it. | Jul 18 05:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To quote Kosh from B5, "They are a dying people. We should let them pass.". | Jul 18 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't take this thing seriously even though it can and likely will kill off half a million of their generation for doing such a great job and sticking us with Trump on the way out. | Jul 18 05:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That's their reward. They have their reward. | Jul 18 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I never got how "Christians" could ignore every part of their bible so completely. | Jul 18 05:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It says that when you pray, basically you're supposed to keep it to yourself in a private place, and here you have all of these carnival churches where they're rolling around on the floor shouting nonsense. | Jul 18 05:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing they seem to do is make a fool out of themselves and show the world how uncharitable and mean-spirited they are. Anyway, yeah, that's Mandy's sister for you right there. | Jul 18 05:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since the church isn't from America, most of the church people here would say they're in a "weird cult". They say that about each other an awful lot, you know. | Jul 18 05:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing that Maricel has to look forward to if there is a God to answer to about your sins with Jesus standing there next to him is how utterly contemptible she is and how she lived her life in utter reprobation. Reprobation is a concept in Christianity that would almost explain someone like Maricel. | Jul 18 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're so wicked that their soul is corrupt and they are quite literally incapable of doing anything except more evil acts every day they walk the Earth. | Jul 18 05:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitzcan't get over water off a truck, like that's the most idiotic thing those people are doing over there. | Jul 18 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I figured out how to get my personal grooming expenses down to about 10 cents a day. | Jul 18 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I even cut out shaving cream and started using the lather from that dollar store value size body wash for shave foam. | Jul 18 05:39 |
| schestowitz | 10 cents a day is a lot | Jul 18 05:40 |
| schestowitz | razor blades of good brands but commoditised are about 20p each here | Jul 18 05:40 |
| schestowitz | and they can last up to a month unless you overshave | Jul 18 05:40 |
| schestowitz | soaps are even cheaper | Jul 18 05:41 |
| schestowitz | but anyway, the water bills would amount to more | Jul 18 05:41 |
| schestowitz | soap can sometimes be about as effective as shaving foam, depending on type | Jul 18 05:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I use those Great Value knock offs of the Mach 3 razor. They seem to work just as well. | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | and for skin not oversensitive you might not need foam at all | Jul 18 05:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I remember being fascinated when those triple blade razors hit the shelves. | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | but those are small expenses compared to food | Jul 18 05:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they have them with 6. :/ | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | gimmicks | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | you would be better off buying 3 with 2 on each | Jul 18 05:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems like the added benefit trails off fast after 2 or 3. | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | and maybe even shave both sides at the same time with triples | Jul 18 05:42 |
| schestowitz | Bic does one | Jul 18 05:43 |
| schestowitz | one very sharp one | Jul 18 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of what they sell for $1 in the Dollar Tree isn't even worth $1. | Jul 18 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, you can get 7 trash bags, but they all tear. | Jul 18 05:43 |
| schestowitz | anyway, let's talk about tech, not hygiene, it's offtopic | Jul 18 05:44 |
| schestowitz | you don't need trash bags | Jul 18 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ah, sorry. I was reading an investment article. | Jul 18 05:44 |
| schestowitz | you can reuse bags from other things for trash | Jul 18 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were doing what happens in any crappy economy to sing the praises of the dollar store. | Jul 18 05:45 |
| schestowitz | you blow $10,000 on a car and then worry about 10 cents spent on shaving? | Jul 18 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So on one hand they're telling people get ready for a V shaped recession where everything comes roaring back, then they tell the investors to dig in and start looking for "value". | Jul 18 05:45 |
| schestowitz | dollar store = "made in china" slave labour sweatshop gateway | Jul 18 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They hide the second part behind paywalls so you won't casually stroll in and see it. | Jul 18 05:46 |
| schestowitz | you reap the benefit of extreme exploitation | Jul 18 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm considering opening an investment account when this bankruptcy discharges. | Jul 18 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I did really well managing John's account. I could probably just go back to that and bring in some extra income. | Jul 18 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "you blow $10,000 on a car and th"> Well, this year so far it's cost me about $300 in repairs and other than that just....gas really. | Jul 18 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $300 including that second vacuum line that's busted a leak. :/ | Jul 18 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It beats those fucking Uber drivers that scam you. | Jul 18 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They accept the ride and then just sit there hoping you get impatient and cancel so they get five bucks. | Jul 18 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Uber won't let you leave a "Hey this guy cheated me!" so they could be scamming people day in and day out and nobody will know, except Uber, which does nothing. | Jul 18 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "you reap the benefit of extreme "> I wouldn't say there's much benefit to be had there. It's a really sad place to shop. Investors might like to take a shot at it if they think the economy will be bad for a long time. | Jul 18 05:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard that Netflix stock sank even though they had 8% growth in subscribers. | Jul 18 05:53 |
| schestowitz | -1-2 years ago I heard netflix was losing money | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | like uber | Jul 18 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That one kind of threw me. I also heard that they are canceling inactive subscriptions themselves, although I don't know why they would. | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | but I didn't look into it | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | for many of these companies growth means "more people" | Jul 18 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is there a business upside to canceling paying customers for being inactive? | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | never mind of each additional person is a financial liability | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | i,.e. growing loss | Jul 18 05:54 |
| schestowitz | until 2018, iirc, twitter lost money each year | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | yay, success! | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | with ipo and massive "market cap" | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | "what do you guys do?" | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | "we lose lots of money... but we have many users" | Jul 18 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Microsoft and Apple stock is sinking again too. | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | what's the name of that movie company that went under and sold tickets? | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | I forgot, there must be many | Jul 18 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guess the layoffs didn't appease the investors. | Jul 18 05:55 |
| schestowitz | and then people realised they had spent money at the expense of VCs' cash | Jul 18 05:56 |
| schestowitz | when the VCs drove off the whole thing went under | Jul 18 05:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "what's the name of that movie co"> Moviepass | Jul 18 05:56 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Jul 18 05:56 |
| schestowitz | techdirt did some good articles about it | Jul 18 05:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they had a lot of problems, including their cards not working at the theater when you got there. | Jul 18 05:56 |
| schestowitz | netflix might still be similar | Jul 18 05:56 |
| schestowitz | streaming is not cheap | Jul 18 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There is no way that Moviepass could work. | Jul 18 05:57 |
| schestowitz | even if isps and their subscribers foot the packet/switching bills | Jul 18 05:57 |
| schestowitz | netflix still needs to run many storage servers and send lots of data from expensive datacentres | Jul 18 05:57 |
| schestowitz | electricity bills there are high | Jul 18 05:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The theater is charging a certain price per ticket and if your monthly fee is like 2-3 tickets and you have people go to the movies 3-4 times a week because they're paying for it anyway as a subscription... | Jul 18 05:57 |
| schestowitz | so they get a few bucks for sending you like 10 GB of streams, maybe 100gb for HD | Jul 18 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comcast dealt with Netflix. | Jul 18 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They throttled them so badly that it stopped working basically. | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | then they pay vat | Jul 18 05:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then forced them to sign a "co-hosting agreement". | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | and pay bills | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | and pay the movie "studios" | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | "content creator" | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | so for like $5 movie maybe they make a buck | Jul 18 05:58 |
| schestowitz | and the bills sending you all this data, plus manhours/manpower (apparently "sexist" words now)... | Jul 18 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You think Comcast is just going to let 2-3 million cable customers slip away from them and binge watch Netflix? Nuh uh. | Jul 18 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2-3 million per year that is. | Jul 18 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So basically like they lost 30% of their subscribers since 2010, and they make up for it by ridiculous fees and extorting streaming companies. | Jul 18 05:59 |
| schestowitz | in 2003 we had issues where I lived because of iptv | Jul 18 05:59 |
| schestowitz | chinese students mostly | Jul 18 05:59 |
| schestowitz | streaming chinese tv networks to their dormss | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | which wasn't illegal | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | but it was a burden on the then-underdeveloped networks | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | with lower cross-continental capacity | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | it slowed the whole network down for everybody | Jul 18 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy gets a kick out of that South Park episode where they make fun of Chinese people. | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | now they stream hd | Jul 18 06:00 |
| schestowitz | who needs hd on a screen just 1080p? | Jul 18 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "As you can see, we are Chinese people ourselves. Bing bong ching chong!". | Jul 18 06:01 |
| schestowitz | city buffet | Jul 18 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | City Wok. | Jul 18 06:01 |
| schestowitz | there's actually a chinese buffet here called that | Jul 18 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Chinese guy pronounces it "Shitty Walk". | Jul 18 06:01 |
| schestowitz | we dined there a lot | Jul 18 06:01 |
| schestowitz | shitty buffet | Jul 18 06:01 |
| schestowitz | covid must have doomed them | Jul 18 06:02 |
| schestowitz | people even reuse spoons | Jul 18 06:02 |
| schestowitz | when they pick things onto their plate | Jul 18 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Chinese restaurant is open again, but no buffet. | Jul 18 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just takeout. | Jul 18 06:02 |
| schestowitz | not good to also leave food exposes like this for people to pick when there's a bad virus | Jul 18 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, Denny's is next door serving up omelets and COVID and nobody cares because they're not Asian. | Jul 18 06:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "not good to also leave food expo"> The whole "It's just like the flu." bullshit will not die over on the far-right. | Jul 18 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So none of them take it seriously until they're cram packed into a ventilator ward. | Jul 18 06:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | From what I can tell, COVID-19 seems to kill about 4% or so of those who get it, but since they restrict testing (especially in red states where it would be embarrassing that they screwed up so badly and there's nothing they can really do about it now while saving face) and they lie about their death tolls (in red states like Florida), who knows? | Jul 18 06:08 |
| schestowitz | probably | Jul 18 06:08 |
| schestowitz | not all countries count the same thing in the same way | Jul 18 06:09 |
| schestowitz | some countries let people rot at home | Jul 18 06:09 |
| schestowitz | suffocate on their own phlegm | Jul 18 06:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, this might just be the "Spanish Flu" all over again. | Jul 18 06:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US is lying about it less than some so we look like the big disster. | Jul 18 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *disaster | Jul 18 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine how the spread and death rates would be different. I guess in Turkmenistan.... No COVID, at all, but you have to wear a mask because "dust". | Jul 18 06:10 |
| schestowitz | that flu came from the us, that's the consensus | Jul 18 06:11 |
| schestowitz | us flu is more like it | Jul 18 06:12 |
| schestowitz | it just came to neutral spain | Jul 18 06:12 |
| schestowitz | where many people 'got' it from us troops | Jul 18 06:12 |
| schestowitz | seems like US will soon be the prime spreader of covid-19 | Jul 18 06:12 |
| schestowitz | whereas china claims to have contained it domestically | Jul 18 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, probably not. | Jul 18 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone is locking the door until it burns itself out in the US. | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | europe already views us travelers like dangerous lepers | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | afaik, leprosy isn't infectious or barely | Jul 18 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, say goodbye to your tourism. | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't work like that, people need food | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | and many people handle the food | Jul 18 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of Europe is so decadent and artsy fartsy I have no idea how those faggots even have an economy outside tourism. | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | farmers, delivery, shops | Jul 18 06:13 |
| schestowitz | if 30% of people have covid-19, it'll be in the food and the packaging of food | Jul 18 06:14 |
| schestowitz | soon also in water supplies | Jul 18 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt that COVID-19 from the water will be much of a thing. | Jul 18 06:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I certainly hope that if it is, some arrive by truck to a certain unpleasant woman. | Jul 18 06:15 |
| schestowitz | marcian? | Jul 18 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maricel? Yeah. | Jul 18 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The politician nurse. | Jul 18 06:15 |
| schestowitz | Martian | Jul 18 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rides a desk while telling us she's a Healthcare Hero. | Jul 18 06:15 |
| schestowitz | I had a friend who said he was a surgeon | Jul 18 06:16 |
| schestowitz | he was a liar | Jul 18 06:16 |
| schestowitz | he was a nurse | Jul 18 06:16 |
| schestowitz | in the surgery room | Jul 18 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's a Nurse Navigator. | Jul 18 06:16 |
| schestowitz | or so we suspect, he'll never admit it | Jul 18 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At a cancer hospital. | Jul 18 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, the hospital is making cutbacks. | Jul 18 06:16 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jul 18 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I know a certain overpaid piece of shit who could use a pink slip. | Jul 18 06:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That'll bring her latte sipping days to an end. | Jul 18 06:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Severe administrative bloat is one of the problems that makes for million dollar ER bills and such. | Jul 18 06:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no reason to get rid of it when they can always make the bill higher. It's like a bloated piece of software made by a company that's in cahoots with another company that wants to sell hardware on a cycle. | Jul 18 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I would only ever invest in things that I can actually understand. Not some burn and churn thing that is so laughable that they'll never make money. | Jul 18 06:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea how these things go on for so long. Moviepass was just egegious because there was no way it could possibly make money. | Jul 18 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hollywood bleeds movie theater owners of most of their ticket sales, so there's no wiggle room to work out some sort of a deal for discounted rates on the backend. | Jul 18 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Moviepass was the most insane business model since those free ISPs in the 90s/early 00s. | Jul 18 06:31 |
| psydread | > There's no reason to get rid of it when they can always make the bill higher. It's like a bloated piece of software made by a company that's in cahoots with another company that wants to sell hardware on a cycle. | Jul 18 06:34 |
| psydread | like Microsoft and Apple? | Jul 18 06:34 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Jul 18 06:39 |
| psydread | I saw this video of someone getting Vista 10 running on an RPi4 and realised that MS will never promote or officially support this because it would completely devalue the Vista 10 model and make incumbent hardware partners such as Intel/AMD/Qualcomm very unhappy | Jul 18 06:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were offering "free" Windows 10 on ARM licenses to people with Pis, right? | Jul 18 06:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not sure how that would be really useful. | Jul 18 06:40 |
| psydread | that was Windows 10 IoT | Jul 18 06:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | OpenMW is kind of interesting. | Jul 18 06:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Porting a AAA game to conceivably anything you want to compile it for. | Jul 18 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Morrowind is 18 years old though. | Jul 18 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why Bethesda doesn't really care. At best, it makes them a few bucks now and then on Gog. | Jul 18 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm thinking a small computer could handle something like that now though just because of how old the game is. | Jul 18 06:42 |
| psydread | this is full Windows 10 on ARM with all of the spyware included and people are putting so much time and effort into it like you would expect from the addicts they actually are | Jul 18 06:42 |
| psydread | Actually I think that model of reverse engineering and/or porting (formerly closed) games is what could immensely help Linux | Jul 18 06:44 |
| psydread | yes | Jul 18 06:44 |
| psydread | but when I look at game engines like OpenRA I am wondering "why .NET/C#" | Jul 18 06:46 |
| psydread | unless the original was also written using those, but it's still less than ideal | Jul 18 06:46 |
| psydread | I tried to build ET Legacy for ARM64 a few months ago, but the code was full of assumptions for i386, which prevented it from completing the build | Jul 18 06:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So, Image Packaging System in Solaris has a concept of delivering files on "shelves".The most common executable file format in *nix systems is ELF.So IPS gives you ELFs on shelves. | Jul 18 07:23 |
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| scientes | it doesn't matter if you pay for it | Jul 18 10:57 |
| scientes | it is still non-free software | Jul 18 10:57 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/RR6doOO.jpg | Jul 18 11:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Abandonment of shopping carts creates jobs %) | Jul 18 11:46 |
| *XRevan86 finally opened up the broken monitor and everyone's suspicion was correct: two capacitors got puffed. Really should've done it before making a trip to the radio store became a bad idea. | Jul 18 11:50 | |
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| MinceR | it also creates congestion | Jul 18 12:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: More jobs! | Jul 18 12:05 |
| *XRevan86 does always return carts. | Jul 18 12:06 | |
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| *MinceR does too | Jul 18 12:13 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2018/10/10/the-cockpit | Jul 18 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - The Cockpit | Jul 18 12:53 | |
| schestowitz | nice cart theory analogy | Jul 18 12:53 |
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| oiaohm | I am really happy I am not in Victoria Australia right now. There daily case numbers for covid-19 is getting close to beat the daily numbers when all states of Australia were cleaning house | Jul 18 12:59 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/678193.jpg | Jul 18 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: do you want your account syndicated in boycottnovell-social? | Jul 18 14:20 |
| schestowitz | it's fediverse compatible, still, afaik | Jul 18 14:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm not sure what you mean by that. | Jul 18 14:21 |
| XRevan86 | ah, with viera? | Jul 18 14:21 |
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| schestowitz | yes | Jul 18 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I am doing a post about irc | Jul 18 14:41 |
| schestowitz | and I realised when twitter killed its apis | Jul 18 14:41 |
| schestowitz | we never really bothered looking at who's in fedivrse for us to archive here | Jul 18 14:41 |
| schestowitz | right now it's me and kaniini | Jul 18 14:42 |
| schestowitz | who uses another account now after leaving pleroma project | Jul 18 14:42 |
| XRevan86 | Well, I rarely post anything of value. Despite trying to be social, something's stopping me. | Jul 18 14:42 |
| schestowitz | is it usually english? | Jul 18 14:49 |
| schestowitz | btw, social control media has nothing to do with social | Jul 18 14:49 |
| schestowitz | it is often antisocial, so it's just a misnomer | Jul 18 14:49 |
| schestowitz | it's like calling cigarettes "diet | Jul 18 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, I almost never write in Russian. | Jul 18 14:55 |
| schestowitz | do you want to be added? | Jul 18 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I know of nobody else (I'm sure there are) who are in fediverse and here also | Jul 18 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: DaemonFC[m] had a Mastodon account | Jul 18 14:57 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't mind being added | Jul 18 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | It's just that I'm mostly useless %) | Jul 18 15:00 |
| schestowitz | ok, cool. what address? username@domain? | Jul 18 15:00 |
| XRevan86 | xrevan86@loadaverage.org | Jul 18 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: I think it would be good to add to viera at boycottnovell-social regulars from here who are on fediverse. Can we add the above for starters? | Jul 18 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | And I don't think that viera speaks OStatus, so I don't think that'll work either way, until GNU social picks up the slack and I can safely add AP that is. | Jul 18 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Also, maybe your newer account at fediverse? | Jul 18 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I thought they were compatible | Jul 18 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: OStatus and AP are very different. | Jul 18 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | IIRC how Ariadne explained it, viera subscribes to an AP inbox. | Jul 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Jul 18 15:06 |
| XRevan86 | For OStatus you should instead get an Atom feed (or receive it via WebSub). | Jul 18 15:07 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: https://mastodon.social/@BaronHK | Jul 18 15:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ryan Alcaraz (@BaronHK@mastodon.social) - Mastodon | Jul 18 15:32 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: aha | Jul 18 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: can we add the above to viera at -social? | Jul 18 15:35 |
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| XRevan86 | https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_original/0/1/8/9014810.jpg | Jul 18 17:00 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140027 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e771c60-3288-47e3-af44-0963d5d301aa] | Jul 18 17:03 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Weekly Roundup: Applications, Distros, and News - July 18, 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140026 [https://pleroma.site/objects/306cf25f-829f-403d-93c1-d4d39f14d688] | Jul 18 17:05 | |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/4EAKF6u.mp4 | Jul 18 17:05 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jul 18 17:10 |
| schestowitz | seems dangerous | Jul 18 17:10 |
| schestowitz | suffocation risk | Jul 18 17:10 |
| schestowitz | but people would even put their pets INSIDE DRAWERS to go "VIRAL" on social control media | Jul 18 17:11 |
| MinceR | cats don't need to be put there, they climb in on their own just fine :> | Jul 18 17:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140028 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4f49ee07-947f-40e6-a6b4-e84227c2db10] | Jul 18 17:21 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 5.13 development release is up, here’s the highlights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140009#comment-25854 [https://pleroma.site/objects/65b89da4-ac35-4eea-a6a7-65136902485f] | Jul 18 17:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Politics, Linux Gaming Guide and New Titles http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140029 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd521252-c6ad-4b8f-9326-7103a3b6771f] | Jul 18 17:29 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #KDE Developers Beating The Summer Heat By Fixing Up Recent Regressions http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140025#comment-25855 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c74a86bc-9a28-4667-b115-f46340e5a7bf] | Jul 18 17:31 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's interesting that it creates a job from people not returning their carts. | Jul 18 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or that robots haven't taken that over. | Jul 18 17:53 |
| MinceR | (no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/683432.mp4 | Jul 18 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Robot is online! 16 hours into mission! Destroy shopping carts! Destroy! Destroy! | Jul 18 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a robot to sweep, mop, and wax the floors there now. | Jul 18 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart will figure out how to make $15 minimum wage work, for the people it hasn't figured out how to get rid of. That's why they're beta testing stores with no cashiers. | Jul 18 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll have to put more money into customers not ripping them blind though. | Jul 18 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some companies ripped self-checkouts back out and said it was for "customer service", but what really happened was they were saving $9-10 an hour on the cashier and losing $50 more per hour in theft. | Jul 18 18:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Knowing Walmart, they probably have some sort of behavior detection software going in. | Jul 18 18:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 18 18:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was always amused at how they were right on the edge with technology when I was there. Not necessarily the best stuff, but way ahead of other retail. | Jul 18 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, Walmart was putting in Linux stuff while others were still running POS systems on DOS. | Jul 18 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was plenty of Windows too, but on the client end. That Novell-Microsoft deal had shadows of Walmart all over it. | Jul 18 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart was complaining to Microsoft that Windows Server didn't work well enough for them on the backend, and asked them for official support for some kind of Linux setup there. Shortly after the Novell-Microsoft deal, Walmart deploys a bunch of SLES on the backend. | Jul 18 18:12 |
| psydread | and instead of improving Windows Server so Walmart could use it, it imploded and faded from the marketplace | Jul 18 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they have robots walking around in the store, cleaning the floors, counting product on the shelf..... | Jul 18 18:14 |
| psydread | that's Microsoft innovation at its best | Jul 18 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's menial stuff, but they used to be in for hours of payroll every day on that. | Jul 18 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm surprised that the ban in more Novell deals made it into the third GPL. | Jul 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *on | Jul 18 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If that happened today, Microsoft would hust be all don't run, we are your friends! The FSF would say "Okies!". | Jul 18 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft, Apple, and Google have worked especially hard to avoid the GPL3. | Jul 18 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft hasn't avoided it entirely because WSL distributions have to go through their store, which means they are conveying the software. | Jul 18 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you replace the GPL3 stuff in a Linux distribution it'll destroy compatibility, but I'm sure someone is working on that. | Jul 18 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | On the surface, it makes absolutely no sense to replace or version lock working software with something that truly sucks and is full of bugs, but Apple did it. | Jul 18 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They break compatibility with working software on the Mac all the time so if your application is more than a couple years old, forget about it. Why do their systems appeal to "developers", much less Red Hat/Fedora people? | Jul 18 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Breaking compatibility gratuitously is probably the second worst thing an OS can do apart from crashing and burning all the time. So I'd say Mac OS is slightly better than Windows if you don't care about compatibility. | Jul 18 18:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm fairly sick and tired of Fedora screwing around with their kernel. It's mostly an upstream kernel, but bringing in new versions all the time unfortunately does impact userspace eventually, and even if it doesn't, Intel can't pick a goddamned lane on all of this Security Mitigation Theater. They'll happily break power management on my GPU for a whole cycle before admitting it's impossible to repair and turning i | Jul 18 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | back on. Things like that. | Jul 18 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I edited Wikipedia the other day to point out that there's no way that Oracle's "Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel" can guarantee Red Hat Compatibility, or that userspace will even remain unaffected when they rebase on a newer upstream kernel for UEK. | Jul 18 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The whole goddamned article was a sickening advertisement for Oracle. | Jul 18 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they can guarantee 100% compatibility with the Red Hat Kernel, why would they include a Red Hat Compatible Kernel. | Jul 18 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Ours is a Red Hat Compatible Kernel, but here's a Red Hat Compatible Kernel!" | Jul 18 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Red Hat doesn't break out patches and it has so many and changes so often that even attempting to figure out what they've done is an exercise in futility. | Jul 18 18:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Without knowing what they've patched, there's no way you could possibly guarantee that yours works exactly the same in any particular way, much less on thousands of items. | Jul 18 18:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Red Hat found a way to comply with the GPL and sabotage it. I think Techrights talked about that. | Jul 18 18:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | AFAIK, Ubuntu still says what they patched and break them out, so that's a big plus. | Jul 18 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You might have dozens or hundreds of patches to go through, but there is a patch. | Jul 18 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Distributions that trawl in new kernel series all the time get to be a real nuisance. | Jul 18 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it wasn't for Intel's driver tree being a real shithole full of radioactive waste and zombie bits, you wouldn't have to worry that a new kernel would come through that's more broken than it was before, too much anyway. | Jul 18 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a lot of people in there now who have no idea what they're doing and post-hardware release updates at a certain point are "Don't touch that, you'll just make it worse!". | Jul 18 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Moronix still pushes Intel, it seems. His own benchmarking shows that with the latest Linux distributions a year later, it turns out that the AMD counterparts to last year's Intel stuff is overall, quite a bit faster in the end. | Jul 18 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was one of the people who called foul on the Intel mitigations as they were piling up. | Jul 18 18:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of people were all like "Fuck this. We'll just camp out on old kernels forever!". | Jul 18 18:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "They really need a global switch to opt out of all of this and restore the old default behavior at the OS level. There's going to be tens of thousands of CVEs that have absolutely nothing to do with Intel on top of all the problems with Intel, and if you want to make sure that there's a lot of wormable Intel users out there, not doing an opt out switch in new kernels is how you get ants.". | Jul 18 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Companies making Linux products or using it internally are like that sometimes. There's probably someone out there making new hardware on a Linux 2 kernel. | Jul 18 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Another thing I saw in the ZFS on Linux code that made me go "LOL" other than the Solaris Porting Layer, was that it supports kernels all the way back to 2.6.32. No real Linux file system does that because Linux 2.6.32 is not the kernel that those drivers are shipping in. To really support kernels that old in your module, you're going to need a lot of special case stuff and your driver code will get sloppy and hard t | Jul 18 18:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | debug properly. | Jul 18 18:43 |
| MinceR | well, it's easy for ZFS because it reinvents everything | Jul 18 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Canonical is making a huge mistake in "supporting" or "encouraging" people to use this instead of BtrFS. It's going to be their latest nightmare that goes on for several years and then flies apart, whether Oracle ever sues them or not. | Jul 18 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ZFS on Linux code is just ugly and it's being maintained by a bunch of slobs. But of course you want this monster managing your "enterprise" setups. | Jul 18 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook is obviously big enough that if ZFS on Linux was going to work out better than BtrFS for them, they could have roped it in and used it internally, but they went with BtrFS instead. They're evil, but it appears that the people making their IT decisions are not completely stupid. | Jul 18 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "well, it's easy for ZFS because "> Actually, I saw the 0.8.x release notes fly by. They do support Linux Direct I/O now. So this thing is a frankendriver. It'll grab onto something native to Linux when they say "Hey, that's neat!". | Jul 18 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's already a GPL violation, so what the hell!? | Jul 18 18:49 |
| kingoffrance | i dunno, i didnt like it ever coming to bsd .. if your FS needs 1G+ RAM, something is the matter | Jul 18 18:50 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, for performance, sure | Jul 18 18:51 |
| kingoffrance | but if it wont run at all with <1 or 4G ? | Jul 18 18:51 |
| kingoffrance | something is the matter | Jul 18 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Direct I/O, iirc, was a part of the IRIX porting layer that XFS used to have. It got moved over into Linux generically along with some other stuff, and that IRIX layer went away eventually. | Jul 18 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "i dunno, i didnt like it ever co"> It runs fine with low RAM. | Jul 18 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had OpenSolaris on a laptop with a total of 1 GB of RAM. | Jul 18 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was running the full GNOME 2 desktop and it was obviously on ZFS. | Jul 18 18:52 |
| MinceR | > if your FS needs 1G+ RAM, something is the matter | Jul 18 18:52 |
| MinceR | this. | Jul 18 18:52 |
| kingoffrance | bsd i think you can, but you have to tweak stuff | Jul 18 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you turn on scrubbing it'll need more RAM. (Scrubbing was the thing, right?) | Jul 18 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, on a laptop you would not turn scrubbing on. | Jul 18 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it worked okay. | Jul 18 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | OpenSolaris ran okay on that laptop. About the same as Linux really. | Jul 18 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I only really needed it for basic tasks like playing MP3s and running Firefox and an office suite, so OpenSolaris wasn't worse as a desktop system for me. | Jul 18 18:54 |
| psydroid | I ran the first release of Solaris 10 with ZFS on a Pentium III with 512 MB RAM, I think | Jul 18 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of the ZFS problems are those ZFS on Linux idiots trying to use it on Linux. | Jul 18 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was not designed for that, and on top of non-native driver, you have kernel developers sabotaging it too. | Jul 18 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously, if it's a Linux file system under the GPL, why would they actively sabotage it? | Jul 18 18:55 |
| psydroid | that's my opinion too, on Linux you use native Linux filesystems and on Solaris/Illumos you use ZFS | Jul 18 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you're much safer with BtrFS there. | Jul 18 18:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I edited the article about the CDDL again. | Jul 18 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It said, "Like the MPL the CDDL includes a patent grant to the licensee from all contributors ("patent peace")." | Jul 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | ah yes, sun's "we're afraid of Linux" license. | Jul 18 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I added, "However, in section 2.1(d), the patent grant is lost if the code implementing a patented feature is modified.[8]" | Jul 18 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | Oracle can't change it or won't change it? | Jul 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | sounds awfully proprietary to me | Jul 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | like the cisco blob | Jul 18 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, wait, they did change it | Jul 18 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | to EULA | Jul 18 19:04 |
| XRevan86 | Thanks, Oracle, awesome as always | Jul 18 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "This effectively undermines the open source nature of the CDDL as it pertains to those segments of code." | Jul 18 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: How long do you think that this will last? | Jul 18 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say if you're using "open source" software released without patent rights, or in a way where you lose those patent rights, and the source of the software is infamous for sung people, then you're an idiot. | Jul 18 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *suing | Jul 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | indeed, unless you live and use it in a jurisdiction where those patents are unenforceable :> | Jul 18 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CDDL is a horrible software license. It's not just anti-GPL. It's full of legal gimmicks and chicanery that leave victims exposed to a lawsuit from Oracle even if they haven't violated the license. | Jul 18 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't just be concerned about actively developing something under this license. I would be concerned about distributing software released under the license, even if the distribution was definitely not infringing on the license itself. | Jul 18 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's only slightly better in the case of patents than MIT/BSD style licenses. | Jul 18 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You get a license as long as you don't modify the code. Which makes it open source and dangerous to modify until the patents expire, at the same time. Nifty, huh? | Jul 18 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since Oracle immediately killed OpenSolaris upon taking over Sun, I believe the last open source (CDDL) code for ZFS is like from 2010 or something, so Solaris 11 has this different ZFS, and we don't know what happens when you toss a file system back and forth now because the code and features have diverged for 10 years. | Jul 18 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although, this also means that any patents in OpenZFS that Oracle has, are definitely from no later than 2010. | Jul 18 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is turning into another "UFS", where everyone said "Hey, that's neat, but we're adding a feature!" and then it turns into this mess where there's almost no chance of anything better than read-only compatibility if you mount it in another OS that also has "UFS". | Jul 18 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The point of everyone doing their own UFS features during the UNIX Wars was to create compatibility problems, that resulted in more vendor lock-in. | Jul 18 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you don't know that just because the file system is ZFS that you won't go try to mount it on Solaris or something and it goes "Okey dokey!" and immediately corrupts it the first time it writes something. | Jul 18 19:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: There are internet debates on what the Terminator would have done had it killed Sarah Connor. I responded to one years ago and said "Kill all the Sarah Connors. When it was done with Los Angeles, it would expand to the rest of the US, on a mission to kill all of the Sarah Connors it could find.". | Jul 18 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was in read-only mode making it a drone that could only think as much as the mission of "We don't know anything except you need to kill every Sarah Connor you can find.". | Jul 18 19:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, it made no attempt to do so quietly, so that would have eventually drawn too much attention. Remember that it did kill an entire police station and cause them to do a "manhunt". Eventually they would have found it and realized that no amount of small arms fire was stopping it. Eventually they'd blow it up with some RPGs or something and reverse engineer the pieces. | Jul 18 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the "reverse engineering leads to Skynet paradox" was probably part of Skynet's plan somehow. | Jul 18 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | "we need to go deeper" | Jul 18 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Destroying it may not have changed the timeline. Destroying it in the press machine might have been the plan all along and it just didn't know that. | Jul 18 19:27 |
| MinceR | deepah! | Jul 18 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | into the lava pit | Jul 18 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 13:31, July 18, 2020 Daemonfc talk contribs 26,031 bytes -11 →CDDL'd ZFS into GPL'd Linux kernel: Really? Do we have to say what's wrong with this title? undo Tag: 2017 wikitext editor | Jul 18 19:32 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w | Jul 18 19:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EAT DA POO POO - YouTube | Jul 18 19:47 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: is that a macbook? appropriate | Jul 18 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks like a particularly bad Saturday for COVID numbers. | Jul 18 19:53 |
| MinceR | probably | Jul 18 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 500 dead already and not even 2 PM yet. | Jul 18 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: This thing has singlehandedly become the #1 killer of Americans and at the same time you're a pussy and a "Democratic Pig" if you wear a mask. | Jul 18 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Stupid people doing stupid things. | Jul 18 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They spent like $8 trillion on "9/11" which killed 2,800 people and that was the end of it pretty much. | Jul 18 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That totally wasn't an over-reaction at all. | Jul 18 19:55 |
| XRevan86 | Those United States of America, the land of the free, the land of democratic pigs | Jul 18 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | and republican swine | Jul 18 19:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The United States had a far more competent president in the last season of Lexx than it does in 2020. | Jul 18 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Hm, I don't remember… | Jul 18 19:57 |
| XRevan86 | The thing I remember best out of Season 4 was how Xev ate people | Jul 18 19:57 |
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| MinceR | uhmerica had a far more competent president in idiocracy than it does in 2020 | Jul 18 19:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comacho? | Jul 18 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jul 18 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And actually fun | Jul 18 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | For a clown Trump is strangely unfunny | Jul 18 20:00 |
| MinceR | yes, Camacho | Jul 18 20:00 |
| XRevan86 | and smarter | Jul 18 20:01 |
| *XRevan86 didn't like Idiocracy while watching, but thinks that it's reference value is far greater than it's value as a film. | Jul 18 20:02 | |
| XRevan86 | * its | Jul 18 20:03 |
| XRevan86 | though maybe it's because I didn't see just how real it is while watching it | Jul 18 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | HEVC just doesn't seem to be worth it, really. | Jul 18 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | AVC was "good enough". | Jul 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A huge leap from xvid and all those other crappy MPEG-4 ASP codecs. | Jul 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not a huge leap in processing resources. | Jul 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't believe there's still xvid rips going up. | Jul 18 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Holy broken codec from 1999, Batman! | Jul 18 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that AVC is going to turn into the MP3 of video. | Jul 18 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone but Apple has refused HEVC on the web and this VVC thing is going to go nowhere. | Jul 18 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Netflix might stream it to Apple devices, but other than that it's finished before it's even out there. | Jul 18 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With HEVC, the patent holders managed to use their patents to sabotage their own codec. | Jul 18 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is it more efficient than AVC? Kind of. You might, in reality, get a 20% improvement, with a 50-60% increase in decode requirements, and a patent mess like you wouldn't believe. | Jul 18 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I think pirates and Apple are the only ones interested in HEVC. | Jul 18 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why hardware is supporting it. The patent holders are double dipping you if you license AVC and HEVC. | Jul 18 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You have to license the AVC patents that apply to HEVC all over again. Fun! | Jul 18 20:13 |
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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zylfDrErcLrwQrjSBqbnGivA > | Jul 18 20:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I tweaked the Adblock Plus article. | Jul 18 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A community of advertisers has decided that the Taboola chumbucket is an Acceptable Annoyance! | Jul 18 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "You can always just turn it off!" | Jul 18 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many of the ads that are whitelisted do not respect Do Not Track and do track the user. | Jul 18 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Added: "Most of the whitelisted "Acceptable ads", including Google's Adwords, do not respect the user's Do Not Track choices and do, in fact, track the user.[82]" | Jul 18 20:42 |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/freudeity | Jul 18 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Freudeity | Jul 18 20:50 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "That's not a crash, that's just Linux being awful at handling low memory conditions." -Michael Catanzaro (GNOME developer) in a bug report. | Jul 18 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Have you tried not gorging your desktop on RAM and creating an out of memory situation? Of course you haven't. | Jul 18 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | KDE typically takes up 1-2 GB less RAM to do everything I was doing, and it's not real noticeable usually on a system with 16 GB of RAM. | Jul 18 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But there's still people out there buying 4 and 8 GB systems or using older ones today. | Jul 18 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | GNOME has completely left them behind. | Jul 18 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just guzzles the RAM. It's almost as bad about that as Windows. | Jul 18 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I open a lot of applications and browser tabs, so sometimes I was hitting 9-10 GB of actual RAM used (not counting the disk cache). | Jul 18 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's nice that this turns back the clock. | Jul 18 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll take 1-2 more GB of RAM before things start hitting the swap file. | Jul 18 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things are actually worse with EarlyOOM in some ways. | Jul 18 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of the problem that it seems to be trying to solve can be better solved by adjusting vm.swappiness | Jul 18 21:17 |
| MinceR | 18 221302 < DaemonFC[m]> Have you tried not gorging your desktop on RAM and creating an out of memory situation? Of course you haven't. | Jul 18 21:19 |
| MinceR | that is not the gnome way | Jul 18 21:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This swap on zram with EarlyOOM is the biggest contrivance I've ever seen. | Jul 18 21:20 |
| MinceR | how can a DE possibly be "modern" if it can run a computer more than 1 year old? | Jul 18 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will add needless complexity, make assumptions that do not hold up, and for what? | Jul 18 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that they can get rid of some swap space that's hardly noticeable? So they don't have to put their libraries and desktop on a diet? | Jul 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | so that they beloved god daemon and DE can gobble up all the RAM they can get without being killed by the OOM killer | Jul 18 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When you run out of RAM you'll just be fucked and the system might not fall over dead, but it'll start attacking and closing your programs with unsaved work, and it will waste some RAM it could actually use. | Jul 18 21:22 |
| MinceR | so that poettering and his pals don't have to learn how to program | Jul 18 21:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it actually special cases all of systemd and the GNOME Shell no matter what kind of a leak they've sprang. | Jul 18 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of killing them and bringing it up with a fresh copy. | Jul 18 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Under X11, you can kill the Shell and a fresh copy pops up and your applications go on working, but not with Wayland. | Jul 18 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we can toss the "It's more reliable." argument right there. When the Shell goes down, it's taking you with it. | Jul 18 21:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | " Of course that all has to be set up by your distro to give you a chance | Jul 18 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | at surviving a low memory situation; otherwise, it's expected that your | Jul 18 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | desktop will hang and you'll have to hold the power button." | Jul 18 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | :/ | Jul 18 21:26 |
| MinceR | waylandows was designed to be non-modular | Jul 18 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Failure is not an option. It's expected. | Jul 18 21:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | This sounds like one of those ridiculous "We saw the Mac and some Chromebooks doing it.". | Jul 18 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Possibly, but even they aren't hogging RAM like GNOME does. | Jul 18 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Adblock Plus has a history of bad code, memory hogging, and security issues that leads me to suspect that they have no idea what they're doing aside from backstabbing users with paid exceptions to their ad filters. | Jul 18 21:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They refrained from doing anything terribly unsavory until they built up a huge userbase. | Jul 18 21:32 |
| MinceR | aren't there plenty of forks of ABP with the "acceptable ads" "feature" removed already? | Jul 18 21:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just use ublock-origin. Even with the Acceptable Ads turned off, I have a lot of concerns over the code quality of Adblock Plus. | Jul 18 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Who needs even them? | Jul 18 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-under-scrutiny-for-laying-off-1900-employees-2020-7 | Jul 18 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Airbnb is under scrutiny for how the company laid off 1,900 employees - Business Insider | Jul 18 21:40 | |
| XRevan86 | I assume it survives the same way OpenOffice does | Jul 18 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1,900 Airbnb layoffs. | Jul 18 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | through the sole power of the brand | Jul 18 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Company with a culture of trust and loyalty." | Jul 18 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the one that shoved people into a filthy substandard rental that would fail inspection if it was a hotel and exposed the owner to tenants who destroyed everything in the unit without compensation. | Jul 18 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | * with culture of a trust | Jul 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is like Uber for short term rentals. | Jul 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's completely falling apart. schestowitz | Jul 18 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Once the regulation started, it was the beginning of the end for this gig economy bullshit. Especially with COVID 19 making people apprehensive of each other and with less need to travel anyway. | Jul 18 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would be better if Airbnb went under. Then the people marketing rentals on it would turn them into apartments and there'd be more competittion between landlords for people who actually live in that city. | Jul 18 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The freaks of nature who were abusing their "hosts" will find that hotels have stronger legal protection against them. | Jul 18 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fucking parasites at this "tech" company will have to find something else to do. | Jul 18 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "When the pandemic struck, one of the hardest-hit tech companies was | Jul 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Airbnb, the short-term-rental startup that saw its valuation nearly halved in April, seemingly overnight." | Jul 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So sad. Alexa, play Desposito. | Jul 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In a May direct address to the company via livestream, CEO Brian Chesky announced 1,900 of Airbnb's 7,500 employees were being laid off. The company cut $800 million from its marketing budget, 490 freelancers, and swaths of other teams, including its safety team, according to a story by Erin Griffith of The New York Times." | Jul 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Safety team? The company that let "hosts" not put Carbon Monoxide detectors in their units had a safety team? | Jul 18 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The decision to cut the safety team, which is in charge of handling violent situations, has come under scrutiny, according to The Times, especially in light of a shooting at a Halloween party hosted at an Airbnb rental in October." | Jul 18 21:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I clicked through and it was in California. The other majority-minority shithole where someone opens up on a house party with an AR-15 because someone insulted them on Facebook. | Jul 18 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Still, employees weren't convinced. Some said they wondered why certain teams, such as the safety division, were cut, while others weren't. Others said it was outrageous that the company couldn't trim more perks, like rented office plants, according to The Times." | Jul 18 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The rented office plants had more seniority than the safety team, I guess.. | Jul 18 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It's not surprising that Airbnb has taken this approach to layoffs, as the company has been forced to change gears. Fewer people are traveling, and many popular Airbnb destinations across Europe have barred citizens of countries that have been hit hard by the coronavirus from entering its borders, including Americans. These decisions will likely leave a long-lasting impact on the global tourism industry." | Jul 18 21:50 |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/MFDvWfE.mp4 | Jul 18 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At least Europe gets to disrespect us while missing out on all of our tourism money, which is 40% of the total economy in some regions. | Jul 18 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not like you need 40% of your economy I guess. | Jul 18 21:51 |
| MinceR | if europeans needed all of their economies, they wouldn't have elected christian fundamentalists into positions of power | Jul 18 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody will miss 40% of their GDP. They can do what America does and have the "news" tell them the stock market is terrific. | Jul 18 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: About the only thing I haven't cut the budget on is I refuse to buy the absolute cheapest cat food. | Jul 18 21:53 |
| MinceR | :3 | Jul 18 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the cats still get Iams for now, but I'm wondering if the stuff Aldi sells is okay. It still says Chicken as the first ingredient, followed by Chicken byproduct meal. Those $10 bags-o-shit start out with corn. | Jul 18 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm certain that for $29 a bag Iams is probably not using human-grade chicken as the "chicken", but at least you get to ingredient #3 before there's "corn". | Jul 18 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people are like "Yeah, but the byproduct is ground bones, beaks, feathers, etc. | Jul 18 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "So, uhhh, the cat wouldn't be eating those if they attacked and ate a chicken? | Jul 18 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy told me about living in Manila, they had some cats and they ate rodents that they found. | Jul 18 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could hear the cat going "Crunch crunch crunch.". | Jul 18 21:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 18 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "So can you please tell this blogger that the cat didn't raise its paw and say 'Excuse me? Can one of you please shave and de-bone this rat?". | Jul 18 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Is this rat organic and farm to table?" | Jul 18 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like the cats better than my sister in law. They haven't "evolved" to max out a credit card they took out in their husband's name while he wasn't paying attention to get water off of a truck. | Jul 18 22:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 18 22:00 |
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| kingoffrance | seen editorial: my cat puts more care into cleaning his litter box than they seem to care about handling corona | Jul 18 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom is the kind of white person who would eat the wrapping on a tamale while saying "How authentic!". | Jul 18 22:38 |
| MinceR | sounds racist | Jul 18 22:42 |
| XRevan86 | sounds corny | Jul 18 22:43 |
| *XRevan86 looks at a photo: oh hey, looks slightly like a cabbage roll. | Jul 18 22:44 | |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Mahshi_koromb.jpg | Jul 18 22:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Tamales_mexicanos_navidad2004.jpg though maybe not really | Jul 18 22:46 |
| XRevan86 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Mississippi_tamale.jpg hm | Jul 18 22:46 |
| XRevan86 | > Tamales are generally wrapped in corn husks or plantain leaves before being steamed, with the choice of husk depending on the region. | Jul 18 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: What's the point of the wrapping? Is it for soaking? | Jul 18 22:48 |
| XRevan86 | in the juices | Jul 18 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it holds it together while you steam it. | Jul 18 23:31 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Well, holding together can be done in many different ways | Jul 18 23:33 |
| XRevan86 | I am wondering if there's a practical purpose to this, like flavour | Jul 18 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably just what they had and it's cheap. | Jul 18 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hormel has "canned tamales" with wax paper. | Jul 18 23:34 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] <MinceR> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w | Jul 18 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EAT DA POO POO - YouTube | Jul 18 23:38 | |
| schestowitz | "This video contains content from Current TV LLC, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." | Jul 18 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Geo-blocked? | Jul 18 23:38 |
| schestowitz | or altogether removed? | Jul 18 23:38 |
| schestowitz | [19:47] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- EAT DA POO POO - YouTube | Jul 18 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Accessible for me | Jul 18 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | > Unavailable in GB, GG, IE, IM, IT, JE | Jul 18 23:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So, just traditional stuff, O.K. | Jul 18 23:39 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 18 23:39 |
| MinceR | accessible here | Jul 18 23:39 |
| XRevan86 | > Family friendly? Yes | Jul 18 23:40 |
| XRevan86 | Invidious show some interesting information from the available video metadata | Jul 18 23:40 |
| schestowitz | The title is a bit of a bait | Jul 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It amazes me that people are piled up to get into Little Caesars every day. | Jul 18 23:42 |
| schestowitz | why does youtube service title for some videos/address and now to others? | Jul 18 23:42 |
| schestowitz | I assume it's a format thing | Jul 18 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | Baby Jesus, Little Caesar | Jul 18 23:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Airbnb treats its own people like it treats people in general | Jul 18 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some lady on Doordash ordered a ton of food and then the driver was shouting fuck you at the staff. | Jul 18 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very professional. | Jul 18 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Murica | Jul 18 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I ate the whole damned pizza. | Jul 18 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Maybe the bot is being geoblocked… | Jul 18 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do that every few months. It's just complete garbage that you're in the mood for sometimes. :/ | Jul 18 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They know what they are, and it's why they refuse to get rid of the $5 pizza. It's amazing that despite minimum wage skyrocketing and inflation and everything there's still a Dollar Tree and Little Caesars sticking to price points established 20 years ago. | Jul 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How do they do it? | Jul 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There can't possibly be a profit margin at $5. I remember in 2009 a store owner in Georgia (a very red and low wage state) said he was only making 57 cents on each one, but corporate demanded that they keep it. | Jul 18 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They must be losing money on it now. Especially in Illinois. | Jul 18 23:47 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: maybe | Jul 18 23:47 |
| schestowitz | or rate-limited | Jul 18 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've seen people like Doordash Karen have meltdowns like that before though. | Jul 18 23:47 |
| schestowitz | I used to assume it was a JS thing, but never bothered checking | Jul 18 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll order like 50 of them and complain that it's taking so long. | Jul 18 23:48 |
| schestowitz | our office, the main office, is closing down later this month | Jul 18 23:48 |
| schestowitz | after more than 20 years | Jul 18 23:49 |
| schestowitz | we'll all be remote workers | Jul 18 23:49 |
| schestowitz | even admin and management | Jul 18 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The manager was quite annoyed with "Doordash Karen". He said, "These people are buying stuff that makes us money. I've got staff that's working on pizzas that make us a nickel each.". | Jul 18 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She continued, "Well, I've been waiting here for fuckin' half an hour!". With her child, who was not wearing a mask. | Jul 18 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Apps and demands to make everything cheaper collide. | Jul 18 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hardly ever see anyone go in there and just order one of these things. They come out with like 5 or 10 or 20. It's.....what are they doing? | Jul 18 23:51 |
| MinceR | if you think the title was a bait, try this version >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIg | Jul 18 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eat Da Poo Poo AUTOTUNE REMIX - YouTube | Jul 18 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you have a guy in back making these things and you have to sell them at the price established in 2000 otherwise your trashy customers have a meltdown. Then he can't afford to feed his family because if they raise the price 50 cents their customers disappear. | Jul 18 23:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "if you think the title was a bai"> Yeah, the churches are moving on to blacker pastures, as it were. | Jul 18 23:53 |
| MinceR | they moved ages ago | Jul 18 23:53 |
| MinceR | at least the kiddie-fuckers | Jul 18 23:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: My Linux Kernel Didn’t Support My Bluetooth Adapter, So I Patched It http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140031 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5cb1149-6553-4e95-8eae-11e5e98ad40e] | Jul 18 23:53 | |
| MinceR | hence the overpopulation problems of africa | Jul 18 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their flashy bag of tricks and excuses for everything fall flat on educated people. | Jul 18 23:53 |
| MinceR | well, they're in luck | Jul 18 23:54 |
| MinceR | educated people are going the way of the dodo | Jul 18 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It's Uganda | Jul 18 23:54 |
| MinceR | in these New Dark Ages | Jul 18 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yep. | Jul 18 23:54 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140032 [https://pleroma.site/objects/acf01eb6-a8ef-4392-baf1-7eadbc13ec0b] | Jul 18 23:54 | |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Uganda | Jul 18 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | LGBT rights in Uganda - Wikipedia | Jul 18 23:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The funny part is they're dealing with the most burned out and nihilistic generation ever who is far too concerned with their immediate life problems to care if the neighbor is fucking someone in the wrong hole. | Jul 18 23:55 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: More #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140034 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd06a9d2-38de-45d8-ad4c-792ce3ac663a] | Jul 18 23:55 | |
| XRevan86 | "in the wrong hole" – finally something will be done about oral | Jul 18 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Being a homophobe is sort of a 'first world problem" you'd think. | Jul 18 23:56 |
| MinceR | don't you mean "gunshot wounds"? | Jul 18 23:56 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: it isn't | Jul 18 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Because in the third world it's not considered a problem to be one? | Jul 18 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's one of those things where caring about what someone else is doing with their penis is a luxury because you got bored from having such an easy life. | Jul 18 23:56 |
| MinceR | it was very much "hip" and "cool" in the middle east in the bronze age | Jul 18 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Again, Uganda | Jul 18 23:56 |
| MinceR | that's why it's in the favorite fable of these people | Jul 18 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Russians seem to be homophobic. I'm sure not all of them, but United Russia is the most homophobic political party I've ever seen in a developed country. | Jul 18 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not really a political party as much as it is an organized crime syndicate. | Jul 18 23:57 |
| MinceR | i have no doubt the "republicans" are trying to catch up though | Jul 18 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that's the way things have become here too. | Jul 18 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Russians are generally uncomfortable with public display. However, religious nutcases are not like that. | Jul 18 23:58 |
| MinceR | maybe they could stop publicly displaying their religion, then | Jul 18 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really depends on where you are here. Once the court ruling came down on Indiana they just tossed their hands up and complied with it and didn't really care very much. | Jul 18 23:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Indiana government wasn't tired of losing though, so it spent $1.5 million more appealing it and lost. | Jul 18 23:59 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Updated Debian 9: 9.13 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140033 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d3264a0b-e9d9-4424-97a7-33554989b7bc] | Jul 18 23:59 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Kinda don't, crosses are worn under shirts | Jul 18 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | except for religious nutcases | Jul 18 23:59 |
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