●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 18, 2021 ●● ● Sep 18 [00:01] techrights-news Another part of the #geminiProtocol capsule of #techrights rewritten in #perl instead of bash. Git keeps a history of older implementations, akin to prototypes gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ [00:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 51.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.21 swarm size (avg): 260.23 [00:02] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 51.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.21 swarm size (avg): 260.23 [00:04] activelow MinceR: and fill vehicles with "bio" fuel produced from wheat [00:04] DaemonFC https://www.pcmag.com/news/dominos-begins-making-autonomous-pizza-deliveries-in-houston [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Domino's Begins Making Autonomous Pizza Deliveries in Houston | PCMag [00:04] schestowitz-TR2 yuppie shite [00:04] schestowitz-TR2 go away with your "hey hi"... [00:04] schestowitz-TR2 I want customer service... :- [00:04] activelow this is their "ideal", to cut down rain-forests to plant palm oil trees and sugar, to fuel their cars with [00:05] activelow and then drink "fair trade" coffee because this supposedly saved the rain forest [00:05] schestowitz-TR2 and 'dolphin safe' fish [00:05] schestowitz-TR2 because killing fish is OK [00:05] schestowitz-TR2 but not mammals like dolphins [00:06] schestowitz-TR2 and never mind if that label became a hoax as they don't comply [00:06] schestowitz-TR2 they just slap it on every can for marketing [00:06] MinceR well, if they kill dolphins, they'd better eat them too [00:07] schestowitz-TR2 maybe they send them to japan [00:08] schestowitz-TR2 or somewhere in a place where it's legal or rules are not enforced [00:17] techrights-news #microsoft does not dominate. It doesn't dominate things but it buys things that are dominant using fake money (shares that are x10 higher their original/real worth) to basically get to tell us that they "lead" the market, e.g. in #git and #javascript [00:19] techrights-news Due to #github being a cancer that threatens to kill the original (git) we should boycott #npm and maybe #nodejs by extension. They're unfit for purpose and help monopoly, not to mention #nsa in the "supply chain" (PRISM etc). #deletegithub [00:20] techrights-news #microsoft made it hard to use #git by infecting everything on the Web with the cancer trying to swallow Git. No wonder Torvalds hates Microsoft #github ... [00:25] DaemonFC Dolphin Pizza [00:26] DaemonFC Delivered by a robot. [00:26] schestowitz-TR2 Orderedover alexa [00:26] schestowitz-TR2 alexa sudo make me a dolphin [00:26] DaemonFC Hungry. Grilled cheese. Grill me a cheese! [00:30] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:31] *activelow is not in the mood for cheese [00:31] activelow btw. the court sent me another letter i shall consent again, without the court recognising the posted evidence [00:32] activelow so they insist to decide *without* compensation of legal expenses, and without recognising evidence [00:33] activelow seems to me they prepare for an argument such as consent was given and no more evidence was required [00:34] activelow and instead decide upon based on a formal procedure instead of recognising evidence, which a court exists for to decide upon based on facts and compliance with law [00:35] activelow so they rather follow a procedure, including "microsoft teams", an compliance with a procedure didn't require any evidence to decide upon based on facts [00:35] activelow and [00:35] activelow schestowitz-TR2: no idea how i should respond to this [00:35] activelow i have an idea already [00:36] activelow because they insist on a statement of mine, i'll argue it was already given with evidence provided to decide upon, and ask instead while none of my questions were answered [00:37] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/maskless-san-francisco-mayor-bucks-health-order-at-nightclub [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Maskless San Francisco mayor bucks health order at nightclub | WGN-TV [00:46] *alextee (~alextee@mk58ykzayey9s.irc) has joined #techrights [00:51] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [00:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, It's undermining the narrative. [00:58] DaemonFC They require everyone else to show vaccine cards and wear masks. [00:58] DaemonFC Then you catch them in the French Laundry without a mask. [00:59] schestowitz-TR2 it's pointless ● Sep 18 [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 as I predicted here [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 the billBC calls it "illegal raves" [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 or similar [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 when people just -- GASP -- have a party at home [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 "mate, I got some booze and music, wanna come over?" [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 the club won't benefit from all this [01:00] schestowitz-TR2 they only became a lot less attractive [01:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.75 swarm size (avg): 260.18 [01:32] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [01:37] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:40] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanar@user/lockeanarchist) has joined #techrights [01:40] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanarchist@dbx7zd6rdshfe.irc) has joined #techrights [01:53] schestowitz-TR2 I've made several enhancemnts to ipfs @ gemini, details in git and respective pages, hopefully yhe cron job will handle these ok [01:57] techrights-news "Ive always dealt with depression, so writing stories and songs without any audience in mind helped me get through a lot in my younger years. I love the writing process, from research to final draft." https://tedium.co/2021/09/17/writing-advice-learning-from-failure/ [01:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Tedious Advice: Why My Failed Comedy Music Career Was a Secret Success [01:59] techrights-news "Many people find themselves working in confined spaces every day, whether it be in sewer systems, drains, or other tight spots. These areas come with their own unique risks to life and limb that must be carefully considered in order to avoid disaster." https://hackaday.com/2021/09/17/retrotechtacular-the-dangers-of-confined-spaces/ [01:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retrotechtacular: The Dangers Of Confined Spaces | Hackaday ● Sep 18 [02:01] techrights-news I've just made several enhancements to #ipfs @ #geminiSpace . Some background: Techrights (and Other Technology-Centric Sites) More Robust to Censorship by Setting Up More IPFS Nodes http://techrights.org/2020/11/28/adopting-ipfs/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/11/28/adopting-ipfs/ [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Help Make Techrights (and Other Technology-Centric Sites) More Robust to Censorship by Setting Up More IPFS Nodes | Techrights [02:10] schestowitz the proxy we use https://git.vulpes.one/gopherproxy/ [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.vulpes.one | gopherproxy - gopherproxy [02:12] schestowitz https://git.vulpes.one/gopherproxy/diff/README.md [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.vulpes.one | gopherproxy - gopherproxy [02:12] schestowitz "port is a fork of [https://github.com/prologic/port](https://github.com/prologic/port)." [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://github.com/prologic/port ) [02:13] schestowitz MIT licence [02:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 80.21 swarm size (avg): 260.14 [02:14] schestowitz https://git.vulpes.one/gopherproxy/tree/LICENSE [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.vulpes.one | LICENSE - gopherproxy - gopherproxy [02:21] DaemonFC schestowitz, Well, there are noise ordinances and violent crime to think about. [02:21] DaemonFC Generally, clubs are set aside and noise insulated, and if fights break out there are bouncers and cops. [02:22] DaemonFC You get "house party" in Chicago that's just a code word for black people getting together for a superspreader event that pisses off the neighbors and ends in a mass shooting. [02:23] DaemonFC It's not a wine tasting. [02:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, The car has had so many oil leaks and stuff going on that it's filthy everywhere under the hood. [02:27] DaemonFC Might go out tomorrow while I'm replacing that cabin air filter with some soapy water and paper towels and try to get some of the gunk off. [02:34] *job (~job@3rrpmnn2ptczg.irc) has joined #techrights [02:34] techrights-news "using a distribution from 2001 on the internet isn't much fun because nothing works anymore (apart from security issues inherent with running software that old)" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170921.html#tSep%2017%2017:38:42 [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:36] techrights-news #uk has an UNOFFICIAL "no #surveillance at home" levy http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170921.html#tSep%2017%2020:35:04 [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, The guy who runs ToastyTech is still putting up new web pages made in Netscape 4. [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170921.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:36] DaemonFC They still work because of quirks mode. [02:37] DaemonFC You can definitely just fall back to an old version of HTML/CSS. [02:37] DaemonFC Even non-standard stuff, but that's not a great idea. [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170921.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:38] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-170921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-170921.txt Read the log now... [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-170921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-170921.txt Read the log now... [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 17, 2021 [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-09-17.txt ● Sep 18 [03:01] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:06] *job (~job@3rrpmnn2ptczg.irc) has joined #techrights [03:13] activelow https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550815 [03:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Ooof. If I'm reading that thread correctly, Linus wanted to leave in a bug that ... | Hacker News [03:13] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 244264 total Total pages: 37437 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 3 months 10 days ago [03:13] schestowitz-TR2 "Ooof. If I'm reading that thread correctly, Linus wanted to leave in a bug that would probably allow a local attacker (or maybe even a remote attacker) to execute arbitrary code in the kernel, just to avoid the risk of breaking userland code that did questionable thing that happened to work before by fixing it." [03:14] schestowitz-TR2 What is Torvalds' position on that Azure 'bug' (door)? [03:14] schestowitz-TR2 is the LF allowing him to formulate an opinion? [03:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.6 GB TotalOut: 404 MB [03:14] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 95.23 swarm size (avg): 260.13 [03:15] activelow https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=19be0eaffa3ac7d8eb6784ad9bdbc7d67ed8e619 [03:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [03:16] activelow another one from Maestro himself "This is an ancient bug that was actually attempted to be fixed once (badly) by me eleven years ago in commit 4ceb5db9757a" [03:17] techrights-ipfs-bot QmVJRjPH1YsZzKy3abfyBSCWdBy7Pfm7cEB8d1g1cQQyfd [03:17] activelow the tty one from Alan Cox broke some kdesu(sudo) related stuff, again some security related thing [03:18] activelow some years later FuzixOS was announced, by the one resigning over the dispute [03:19] activelow although i arrived at considering FuzixOS for other reasons: free/open/documented hardware [03:20] schestowitz-TR2 test [03:20] schestowitz-TR2 I'm making a CLI tool [03:21] activelow introducing race conditions with tty handling is most horrible, then it broke some su related stuff, and it seems Alan wanted this to be discussed in public willing to resign over it [03:23] activelow i mean, this "bug" was introduced into a RC development kernel branch, not released, and the developer could have simply reverted the commit, instead escalated and resigned [03:24] DaemonFC https://www.kevin-indig.com/growth-memo/an-early-impression-of-neeva-the-ad-free-search-engine/ [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kevin-indig.com | An early impression of Neeva, the ad-free search engine Kevin Indig [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 techrights-news test [03:24] DaemonFC Advertising really does warp your world view. [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 it does [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 that's the goal [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 it would not be considered viable if it had no effect [03:24] DaemonFC But fake news is more damaging. [03:24] DaemonFC Like NPR pushing the narrative that the vaccines are more impressive than they really are. [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 imilar tactics [03:24] schestowitz-TR2 ads lie, too [03:25] DaemonFC And that we're beating COVID, when we're not. [03:25] schestowitz-TR2 yes, well, NPR is paid to do thhis [03:25] schestowitz-TR2 billBC too [03:26] schestowitz-TR2 testing [03:27] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/09/17/1038258578/britain-eu-metric-imperial-measurements [03:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Shops In The U.K. Could Ditch The Metric System Under A New Proposal : NPR [03:28] DaemonFC Seems like it would benefit the older people. Maybe Boris's voters. [03:29] techrights-news If you STILL send your VM to #microsoft #azure you should be sacked https://www.esecurityplanet.com/cloud/attackers-exploit-azure-omigod-flaw/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/16/microsoft-azure-bug-doors/ [03:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attackers Exploit OMIGOD Flaw in Azure Despite Microsoft Fixes | eSecurityPlanet [03:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure and Back/Bug Doors in GNU/Linux: Fool Me Once (Shame on You) / Fool Me Twice (Shame on Me) | Techrights [03:43] DaemonFC "Replacing struts used to be a dangerous job for a DIYer. You had to compress the spring and remove the strut while praying the spring wouldnt let go and take out an eye or a limb." [03:43] DaemonFC LOL [03:43] DaemonFC Yeah, these quick struts are great stuff. [03:43] *blitzed has quit (Quit: +++ATH0&D2 NO CARRIER NO CAREER) [03:44] DaemonFC "Youll have to get an alignment done afterward (about $100), but youll still save about $300 by doing the job yourself." [03:44] DaemonFC The shop that replaced mine on the front did a free alignment afterwards and said don't worry about it. [03:45] DaemonFC I noticed on the way out that the new struts had my car sitting about an inch higher and the steering wheel had to be turned left a bit to go forward. Probably let the old ones goo too long. [03:45] schestowitz-TR2 seems like the subject changed... [03:46] *activelow resigned over the tty code posted on LKML [03:46] DaemonFC Machines are horrible, aren't they? [03:46] activelow normally such a problem, tty, has to be documented first, with sequence diagrams for example, and then implemented [03:46] DaemonFC I suppose at least it's an old car and most of the stuff that happens is at least diagnosable because it's a mechanical, not software, issue. [03:47] activelow it is impossible, for me, to know why and how a potentially security critical race condition was introduced into tty layer [03:47] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Kia will reflash your computer because that will stop the metal shavings in your engine from causing it to blow up. Somehow.... [03:48] DaemonFC Hey, it's cheap for them. There's still thermite in there that might go off, but hey. That's a you problem. [03:48] techrights-news #Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155754#comment-31018 [03:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS Released with BootHole Patches, Latest Security Updates | Tux Machines [03:49] schestowitz-TR2 tail is being so weird [03:50] schestowitz-TR2 it's like it can only pipe its output through to one program but not a chain [03:54] activelow another one, how is it possible. is it too much to ask from kernel and hardware: video=HDMI-A-1:1280x720 [03:54] activelow the monitor can do it, kernel can do it, and hdmi-out is known to support 4K even, but fails with 720p @50|@60; rockchip another one [03:55] *blitzed (~blitzed@vnxqxiuvnzmtg.irc) has joined #techrights [03:56] activelow and, they're growing again: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-property-real-estate-boom-covid-pandemic-bubble-11594908517 [03:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The $52 Trillion Bubble: China Grapples With Epic Property Boom - WSJ ● Sep 18 [04:05] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, September 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:06] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:08] schestowitz-TR2 OK, I found what the issue was [04:15] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [04:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.31 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 108.10 swarm size (avg): 260.10 [04:18] techrights-news Top 5 Open-Source #eLearning Platforms for Linux https://www.tecmint.com/open-source-elearning-platforms-for-linux/ [04:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Top 5 Open-Source eLearning Platforms for Linux [04:19] techrights-news #intel continues to prop up #microsoft #monopoly while ruining things for #linux (all the time) https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-alder-lake-has-a-special-treat-for-windows-11-users-but-linux-may-be-left-in-the-lurch-4158585 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UEFI http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | Intel Alder Lake has a special treat for Windows 11 users, but Linux may be left in the lurch [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - Techrights [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [04:22] *activelow (~activelow@5hv7hhq6j3x48.irc) has joined #techrights [04:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:26] techrights-news #WSL is a sick joke https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/17/windows_subsystem_for_linux_malware/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ #wsl2 [04:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Yes, of course there's now malware for Windows Subsystem for Linux The Register [04:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights [04:27] techrights-news [Meme] #Microsoft Loves Linux Bug/Back Doors http://techrights.org/2021/09/17/back-doors-wsl/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/17/back-doors-wsl/ [04:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Microsoft Loves Linux Bug/Back Doors | Techrights [04:29] techrights-news LHS Episode #429: The Weekender LXXVIII https://lhspodcast.info/2021/09/lhs-episode-429-the-weekender-lxxviii-2/ #gnu #linux [04:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #429: The Weekender LXXVIII | Linux in the Ham Shack [04:30] techrights-news Linux Plumbers Conference: Get ready for LPC 2021! https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/09/17/get-ready-for-lpc-2021/ [04:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | Get ready for LPC 2021! Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 [04:30] techrights-news COM-HPC module unleashes up to 80-core Arm edge server SoC https://linuxgizmos.com/com-hpc-module-unleashes-up-to-80-core-arm-edge-server-soc/ #gnu #linux [04:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/com-hpc-module-unleashes-up-to-80-core-arm-edge-server-soc/ ) [04:32] techrights-news FOSS Patents: #China extends hand to #EU over standard-essential #patent enforcement, prefers dialog over escalation: judges from three jurisdictions spoke at today's Renmin University conference http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/09/china-extends-hand-to-eu-over-standard.html #fosspatents [04:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: China extends hand to EU over standard-essential patent enforcement, prefers dialog over escalation: judges from three jurisdictions spoke at today's Renmin University conference [04:33] techrights-news "On September 16, 2021, the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) issued a final written decision in Unified Patents, LLC v. Ideahub Inc. holding all challenged claims of U.S. Patent 9,641,849 invalid and denied the motion to amend." #ptab #uspto #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/9/17/d17j77focl9ryrteentgb7iub6ghq8 [04:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Ideahub patent held unpatentable Unified Patents [04:34] techrights-news Freedom to Vote ActFor Capitalist Parties Only https://howiehawkins.us/freedom-to-vote-act-for-capitalist-parties-only/ #corruption #fakeDemocracy [04:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Freedom to Vote ActFor Capitalist Parties Only | Howie Hawkins for our Future [04:36] techrights-news No, there is no recovery. Except for few monopolies that take all the pieces. The vaccines aren't as effective as was promised to us. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/european-shares-subdued-as-china-data-disappoints-2021-09-15 [04:37] techrights-news " #Glaukos (NYSE:GKOS) announced today that it entered into a settlement with #Ivantis to terminate a three-year-old patent infringement lawsuit." https://www.massdevice.com/ivantis-to-pay-60m-in-patent-litigation-settlement-with-glaukos/ [04:38] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:38] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [04:38] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [04:41] techrights-news Why only #china h Review #fraud is RAMPANT in the West. #amazon as a "shop" is mostly #astroturfing and junk/misinformation https://liliputing.com/2021/09/amazon-has-removed-goods-from-600-chinese-merchants-for-review-fraud.html [04:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon has removed goods from 600 Chinese merchants for review fraud - Liliputing [04:44] techrights-news xkcd: Rover Replies https://xkcd.com/2517/ #xkcd [04:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Rover Replies [04:45] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155771 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [04:48] *m___ (~Adium@x8ttdubu5g2js.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [05:03] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [05:03] *activelow (~activelow@g3izecpprtp7g.irc) has joined #techrights [05:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.40 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.95 swarm size (avg): 260.08 [05:16] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [05:59] *job has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 18 [06:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.98 swarm size (avg): 260.06 [06:43] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:44] *activelow (~activelow@5z2uahnzy3nww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:45] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) ● Sep 18 [07:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 121.91 swarm size (avg): 260.03 [07:47] *immibis_ (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [07:47] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [08:04] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:06] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:13] *immibis_ (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.76 swarm size (avg): 260.02 [08:14] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [09:08] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 57.70 swarm size (avg): 260.00 [09:28] *m___ (~Adium@x8ttdubu5g2js.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [10:07] *job (~job@3rrpmnn2ptczg.irc) has joined #techrights [10:15] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/09/18/irc-log-170921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/18/irc-log-170921/ [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, September 17, 2021 | Techrights [10:17] techrights-news [Old] #KenShirriff #OpenHardware Reversing Sinclair's amazing 1974 calculator hack - half the ROM of the HP-35 http://files.righto.com/calculator/sinclair_scientific_simulator.html [10:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-files.righto.com | Reversing Sinclair's amazing 1974 calculator hack - half the ROM of the HP-35 [10:17] techrights-news NEWS #Pine64 #OpenHardware September update: Hurdles and Successes https://www.pine64.org/2021/09/15/september-update-hurdles-and-successes/ [10:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pine64.org | September update: Hurdles and Successes | PINE64 [10:20] techrights-news NEWS #BusinessInsider #Licensing #freesw What is open-source software? Understanding the non-proprietary software that allows you to modify its code https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-open-source-software [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | What Is Open-Source Software? Here's What You Need to Know [10:22] techrights-news NEWS #DanielMiessler Its Time for Vendor Security 2.0 https://danielmiessler.com/blog/its-time-for-vendor-security-2-0/ [10:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | It's Time for Vendor Security 2.0 - Daniel Miessler [10:22] techrights-news NEWS #SimonHrupEskildsen Napkin Problem 16: When To Write a Simulator https://sirupsen.com/napkin/problem-16-simulation/ [10:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sirupsen.com | Napkin Problem 16: When To Write a Simulator [10:23] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #Python Use virtual environments to install third-party Python programs from #PyPI https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/VenvsForPrograms [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/VenvsForPrograms [10:24] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:25] techrights-news NEWS #Salon #Health #FB #Facebook Mark Zuckerbergs bad week: Senators demand answers after expos reveals #Instagram is toxic for kids https://www.salon.com/2021/09/17/mark-zuckerbergs-week-senators-demand-answers-after-expos-reveals-instagram-is-for-kids/ [10:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mark Zuckerbergs bad week: Senators demand answers after expos reveals Instagram is toxic for kids | Salon.com [10:25] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [10:26] techrights-news NEWS #Teleport #ProprietarySoftware Anatomy of a Clown Infrastructure Attack via a Pull Request https://goteleport.com/blog/hack-via-pull-request/ #deletegithub #microsoft [10:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goteleport.com | How to attack cloud infrastructure via a malicious pull request | Teleport [10:27] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Man who unlocked nearly 2 million #ATandT phones gets 12 years in prison https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/17/22679359/man-unlocked-att-phones-sentenced-prison-fraud [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Man who unlocked nearly 2 million AT&T phones gets 12 years in prison - The Verge [10:28] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance The spying that changed Big Tech https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/the-spying-that-changed-big-tech/86289499 [10:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | The spying that changed Big Tech, IT News, ET CIO [10:28] techrights-news NEWS #SeattleTimes Human rights advocates decry #Apple , #Google decision to pull #Navalny app as Russia voting begins https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/human-rights-advocates-decry-apple-google-decision-to-pull-navalny-app-as-russia-voting-begins/ #putin bosses GAFAM more than Biden does ^_^ [10:29] techrights-news NEWS #ChronicleOfHigherEducation #Censorship On Why Im Leaving Academe https://www.chronicle.com/article/on-why-im-leaving-academe [10:29] techrights-news NEWS #Texas #PressFreedom #Dallas Journalist #BarrettBrown Went to the U.K. Now, He Wants Asylum. https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-journalist-barrett-brown-went-to-the-uk-now-he-wants-asylum-12402844 [10:30] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:42] schestowitz this is a gear explanation of the issue I have been having since last night: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/154861/why-does-tail-f-tail-fail-to-produce-any-output [10:43] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [10:43] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [10:53] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Copyrights #Copyright #Instagram Beats Photographers Suit Over Embed Feature https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/instagram-beats-embed-suit-1235015852/ [10:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Instagram Beats Users Suit Over Embed Feature The Hollywood Reporter ● Sep 18 [11:00] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trademark Judge In Scouts #BSA #Trademark Case Says He's Going To Rule In Scouts BSA's Favor On Summary Judgement https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210916/10462847576/judge-scouts-bsa-trademark-case-says-hes-going-to-rule-scouts-bsas-favor-summary-judgement.shtml [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Judge In Scouts BSA Trademark Case Says He's Going To Rule In Scouts BSA's Favor On Summary Judgement | Techdirt [11:06] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Litecoin #Walmart Hoax Easily Exploits A Lazy U.S. Press https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210914/06504947559/litecoin-walmart-hoax-easily-exploits-lazy-us-press.shtml [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Litecoin Walmart Hoax Easily Exploits A Lazy U.S. Press | Techdirt [11:08] *m___ (~Adium@x8ttdubu5g2js.irc) has joined #techrights [11:13] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Broadband #internet How #California s Broadband Infrastructure Law Promotes Local Choice https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/how-californias-broadband-infrastructure-law-promotes-local-choice [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | How Californias Broadband Infrastructure Law Promotes Local Choice | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:14] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Sir Clive Sinclair, 1940-2021 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/sir-clive-sinclair-1940-2021/ [11:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Sir Clive Sinclair, 1940-2021 - Raspberry Pi [11:15] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@4azthyqfbpik6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] DaemonFC https://mspoweruser.com/mozilla-is-testing-setting-bing-as-the-default-firefox-search-engine/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook [11:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla is testing setting Bing as the default Firefox search engine - MSPoweruser [11:15] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [11:15] schestowitz-TR2 that would be mozilla's final death [11:16] techrights-news We might need to prepare to #boycottMozilla https://mspoweruser.com/mozilla-is-testing-setting-bing-as-the-default-firefox-search-engine/ #mozilla #firefox [11:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla is testing setting Bing as the default Firefox search engine - MSPoweruser [11:17] DaemonFC https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/09/15/whats-up-with-sumo-september-2021/ [11:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Whats up with SUMO September 2021 The Mozilla Support Blog [11:17] DaemonFC Fx Search experiment: [11:17] DaemonFC From Sept 6, 2021 1% of the Desktop user base will be experimenting with Bing as the default search engine. The study will last into early 2022, likely wrapping up by the end of January. [11:19] techrights-news #Mozilla Hires From #Microsoft for Mozillas Board http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ [11:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozillas Board | Techrights [11:20] techrights-news I'm ready to call for a #mozilla boycott if this happens. "From Sept 6, 2021 1% of the Desktop user base will be experimenting with Bing as the default search engine. The study will last into early 2022, likely wrapping up by the end of January." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/09/15/whats-up-with-sumo-september-2021/ [11:20] techrights-news #Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ [11:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights [11:22] techrights-news #Facebook #Microsoft and Other #Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save #Mozilla http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [11:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [11:23] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:27] techrights-news Of note: this would not be the first time #mozilla consider sucking Steve and Bill off. 2014: http://techrights.org/2014/11/28/microsoft-firefox/ 2010: http://techrights.org/2010/03/16/windows-and-avg-vs-google/ [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Will Relay Firefox User Input (Even Keystrokes) to Microsoft and the NSA Through Yahoo in the US | Techrights [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Does Microsoft Tinker With the Search Bar in Firefox? | Techrights [11:33] schestowitz x https://text.npr.org/1037845545 [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | You Can Scrap The Password For Your Microsoft Account And Sign In With An App [11:33] schestowitz # NPR still shills for Bill [11:33] schestowitz paid by bill [11:33] schestowitz and microsoft [11:37] techrights-news #businessinsider spreads some disinformation: "Some may require anyone who modifies a program to release the new code without compensation. 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The latter is sometimes #freesw whereas the former just #openwashing so read as #proprietarySoftware + false marketing [11:43] techrights-news #businessinsider is enemy of #freesw and #linux http://techrights.org/2021/06/28/torvalds-disinfo-el-reg/ [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Media is Trolling Linus Torvalds Again But Torvalds Responds | Techrights [11:44] techrights-news #businessinsider Holding Linus Torvalds Accountable for Things He Has Nothing to Do With http://techrights.org/2021/06/27/blaming-torvalds/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Holding Linus Torvalds Accountable for Things He Has Nothing to Do With | Techrights [11:50] techrights-news NEWS #Tor #torproject New Alpha Release: Tor 0.4.7.1-alpha https://blog.torproject.org/tor-0.4.7.1-alpha-released [11:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Alpha Release: Tor 0.4.7.1-alpha | Tor Blog ● Sep 18 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 67.65 swarm size (avg): 259.98 [12:27] techrights-news #facebook #fb https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-facebook-files-11631713039?mod=series_facebookfiles [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Facebook Files - WSJ [12:28] techrights-news #justinedamond https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/16/us-court-overturns-conviction-of-police-officer-who-shot-justine-damond [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | US court overturns murder conviction of police officer who shot Justine Damond | Justine Damond shooting | The Guardian [12:29] techrights-news iophk: "how many are sw patents, and does the rest of the world really want to go that route?" https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Telecommunication/China-accounts-for-40-of-6G-patent-applications-survey https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/09/17/1010211 [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-asia.nikkei.com | China accounts for 40% of 6G patent applications: survey - Nikkei Asia [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | China Accounts for 40% of 6G Patent Applications: Survey - SoylentNews [12:30] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [12:36] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights [12:39] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [12:48] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [13:13] *inky (~inky@46.162.254.222) has joined #techrights [13:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 87.75 swarm size (avg): 259.96 [13:14] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Yout Files Refocused Lawsuit Against #RIAA to Have #YouTube -Ripping Service Declared Legal https://torrentfreak.com/yout-files-refocused-lawsuit-against-riaa-to-have-youtube-ripping-service-declared-legal-210917/ [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yout Files Refocused Lawsuit Against RIAA to Have YouTube-Ripping Service Declared Legal * TorrentFreak [13:14] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #RIAA and #Rightscorp Counter Renewed 'False and Fraudulent' DMCA Notice Claims https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-and-rightscorp-counter-renewed-false-and-fraudulent-dmca-notice-claims-210917/ [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RIAA and Rightscorp Counter Renewed 'False and Fraudulent' DMCA Notice Claims * TorrentFreak [13:16] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:34] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Broadband #Internet Data Again Shows That U.S. Broadband Is Painfully Mediocre https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210913/08270247553/data-again-shows-that-us-broadband-is-painfully-mediocre.shtml [13:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Data Again Shows That U.S. Broadband Is Painfully Mediocre | Techdirt [13:36] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Appeals Court Says The #FirstAmendment Protects #Minnesota Woman's Right To Be Super-Shitty About Nearby Islamic School https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210905/16220047509/appeals-court-says-first-amendment-protects-minnesota-womans-right-to-be-super-shitty-about-nearby-islamic-school.shtml [13:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Says The First Amendment Protects Minnesota Woman's Right To Be Super-Shitty About Nearby Islamic School | Techdirt [13:38] DaemonFC Complaining about an Islamic school being nearby isn't illegal. [13:39] DaemonFC Also, laws against recording the public in a public place are generally not legal. [13:39] DaemonFC Unless you can prove that someone is stalking a particular person and means to do them harm. [13:40] DaemonFC Further, even if you gave total deference to the city ordinance... What would happen if the city itself put up a camera and happened to record those children in a park? [13:40] DaemonFC Would it be simply yet another case of the government flouting its own laws with no consequence? [13:41] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #PETA Sues #NIH And HHS Directors For Blocking Comments With 'PETA' And '#StopAnimalTesting' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210912/18013047551/peta-sues-nih-hhs-directors-blocking-comments-with-peta-stopanimaltesting.shtml [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PETA Sues NIH And HHS Directors For Blocking Comments With 'PETA' And '#StopAnimalTesting' | Techdirt [13:48] techrights-news #ibm #layoffs "Eventually this RSU Trade Union site should probably be posting some information about these RAs in #Spain " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cRwyyMx#replies [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | RAs starting today at Spain -- Ol!! - post regarding IBM layoffs [13:54] techrights-news This week in KDE: so many Wayland improvements, and more! 72 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [13:55] techrights-news 9 Best #FreeSW Command-Line Image Compression Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155773 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Best Free and Open Source Command-Line Image Compression Tools | Tux Machines [13:55] techrights-news #GIMP 2.10.28 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155775 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.10.28 Released | Tux Machines [13:56] techrights-news Why my public library chooses GNU/Linux and #freesw http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155774 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why my public library chooses Linux and open source | Tux Machines [13:56] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155776 #Linux #TuxMachines [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:56] techrights-news #GIMP 2.10.28 Released with Improvements and Bug Fixes, New Script-Fu Function http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155777 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.10.28 Released with Improvements and Bug Fixes, New Script-Fu Function | Tux Machines ● Sep 18 [14:16] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:16] *inky_ (~inky@46.162.254.222) has joined #techrights [14:28] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155778 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:44] techrights-news Links 18/9/2021: GIMP 2.10.28 Released and Azure Remains Back Doored http://techrights.org/2021/09/18/gimp-2-10-28/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/18/gimp-2-10-28/ [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/9/2021: GIMP 2.10.28 Released and Azure Remains Back Doored | Techrights [14:45] techrights-news #Ampere Altra and Open Hardware/Modding http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155779 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ampere Altra and Open Hardware/Modding | Tux Machines [14:45] techrights-news Todays Leftovers and Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155780 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today's Leftovers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:45] techrights-news #Kernel: #Intel Being Intel and Linux Plumbers Conference http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155781 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Intel Being Intel and Linux Plumbers Conference | Tux Machines [14:49] techrights-news #malware to protect malware https://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/413974-microsofts-expensive-security-add-ons-for-office-365-are-basically-ransomware-software-ceo.html #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mybroadband.co.za | Microsofts expensive security add-ons for Office 365 are basically ransomware software company CEO ● Sep 18 [15:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 57.70 swarm size (avg): 259.94 [15:20] techrights-news #KDE Sees Another Big Batch Of Plasma Wayland Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155772#comment-31020 [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: so many Wayland improvements, and more! | Tux Machines [15:35] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155782 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:42] techrights-news "Sadly I have had to disable comments in my previous blog because there is a being [that probably passes by human if you look at them] that started with insults, continued with more insults and then graduated to physically threaten me." https://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2021/09/psa-dont-insult-or-physically-threaten.html [15:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tsdgeos.blogspot.com | TSDgeos' blog: PSA: Don't insult or physically threaten people to try to convince them you are right [15:43] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:45] techrights-news Google extends right-to-be-forgotten to app permissions on older Android devices https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/17/google_app_permissions_android/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google extends right-to-be-forgotten to app permissions on older Android devices The Register [15:46] techrights-news "As reported at the start of August, #AMD and Valve have been working on #Linux CPU performance/frequency scaling improvements with the Steam Deck being one of the leading motivators." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-P-State-XDC2021 [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD + Valve Focusing On P-State / CPPC Driver With Schedutil For Better Linux Efficiency - Phoronix [15:46] *job (~job@3rrpmnn2ptczg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:47] techrights-news #TGIQF The quiz about the 30th Linux birthday http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154866#comment-31021 [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux Machines [15:49] techrights-news Microsoft boosters find the audacity to badmouth "Linux" because Microsoft's attack on Linux (WSL is attack on GNU/Linux) is defunct https://betanews.com/2021/09/18/new-malware-uses-windows-subsystem-for-linux-as-an-attack-vector/ [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | New malware uses Windows Subsystem for Linux as an attack vector [15:50] techrights-news What is Proton? | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/news/what-is-proton #techradar | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/18/#latest [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is Proton? | TechRadar [15:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:51] techrights-news Running the #AWSY benchmark in the #Firefox profiler " Paul Bone https://paul.bone.id.au/blog/2021/09/18/how-to-profile-awsy/ [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.bone.id.au | Running the AWSY benchmark in the Firefox profiler Paul Bone [15:53] techrights-news #Firefox could come to #Ubuntu 21.10 in Snap format http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155736#comment-31022 [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical to Push More Snaps in Ubuntu | Tux Machines [15:55] techrights-news #LibreOffice 8.0 New tabbed interface layout available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155783 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 8.0 New tabbed interface layout available | Tux Machines [15:56] techrights-news #redhat subscription alternative | Local Repo https://unixcop.com/redhat-subscription-alternative-local-repo/#respond [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redhat subscription alternative | Local Repo - Unixcop [15:57] techrights-news Neptune 15 v2 from Juno is a #GNU #Linux #Gaming Laptop with 240 Hz Display https://linuxiac.com/juno-neptune-15-v2/ #linuxiac [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Neptune 15 v2 from Juno is a Linux Gaming Laptop with 240 Hz Display [15:59] techrights-news IBM's IWB: Our Judgements Are Often Flawed https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/09/why-our-judgements-are-often-flawed-and-what-to-do-about-it.html [15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Why Our Judgements Are Often Flawed and What to Do About It ● Sep 18 [16:01] techrights-news Top 20 #freesw solutions for #Photographers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155784 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 20 Open-source solutions for Photographers | Tux Machines [16:01] *job has quit (connection closed) [16:03] techrights-news Improving the New York Times line wrap balancer https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/text-wrap-balance.html #nyt #nytimes [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Improving the New York Times line wrap balancer [16:04] techrights-news " #KDE Frameworks provides a cross-platform notification API, and with a proposed change still in review this would also become directly usable from QML." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/09/18/kf5-notifications-in-qml.html [16:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | Using KNotifications in QML [16:09] techrights-news #ipkat : "This comment has been removed by a blog administrator." [16:10] MinceR (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/775764.mp4 [16:16] *CrystalMath (~coderain@8dtt6ax4pi39y.irc) has joined #techrights [16:17] DaemonFC The Census Bureau says the population of Waukegan is falling by about 0.74% per year. [16:17] DaemonFC Working out to over 600 people per year for the past 3 years. [16:17] DaemonFC And almost 4,500 since 2010. [16:18] techrights-news Amy Sandys seems to be under the impression that copy-pasting press releases from gangsters who hijacked the EPO is "journalism"... https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/latest-news-on-ip-and-coronavirus-in-europe/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Latest news on IP and coronavirus in Europe - JUVE Patent [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [16:20] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:20] techrights-news Apple M1 USB Type-C Linux Support Code Sent Out For Testing - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M1-USB-Type-C-Linux #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/18/#latest [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple M1 USB Type-C Linux Support Code Sent Out For Testing - Phoronix [16:24] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@gq9n6gb4brfk8.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] techrights-news #Plasma 5.23 Anniversary Edition Beta available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155785 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.23 Anniversary Edition Beta available for testing | Tux Machines [16:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:53] techrights-news "In Germany, Google claims that Sonos infringes its patents. As such, Google demanded that Sonos cease and desist." https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/sonos-withdraws-pi-application-against-google-in-hamburg/ [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Sonos withdraws PI application against Google in Hamburg - JUVE Patent [16:58] techrights-news Games: Proton, Neptune 15 v2, and VR http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155786 [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton, Neptune 15 v2, and VR | Tux Machines ● Sep 18 [17:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 13.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 99.41 swarm size (avg): 259.90 [17:14] *inky (~inky@46.71.170.253) has joined #techrights [17:16] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:19] *inky_ (~inky@46.162.254.222) has joined #techrights [17:21] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [17:33] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [17:39] *activelow (~activelow@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] *inky (~inky@46.162.254.222) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [18:00] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@gwjmme686y6vi.irc) has joined #techrights [18:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, So that hit and run down in one of the suburbs a few months ago was an 18 year old driver. He went home and talked to his parents over several days about how to handle it. [18:04] DaemonFC They're both lawyers. [18:05] DaemonFC He eventually turned himself in, after they found a lawyer for him. It's looking like a plea deal to suspended license and a few years of home confinement. [18:05] DaemonFC Of course, he killed the pedestrian, and then fled, but when your parents are rich lawyers, who cares about the specifics? [18:05] DaemonFC They probably golf with the judge. [18:07] DaemonFC My lease is almost up. Have to talk to the landlord soon about renewing it. [18:07] DaemonFC I can't see why he wouldn't. We haven't broken the two deadly sins of renting an apartment. Trashing the place or falling behind on the rent. [18:07] DaemonFC Landlords don't tend to care about much else other than not trashing the place and making sure to pay rent. [18:08] DaemonFC Those people in the two apartments down the hall, one of them is letting his cats piss everywhere. [18:08] DaemonFC You can smell it in the hall. It mixes nicely with Eu de Cheap Cigar, coming from the one across from him. [18:09] DaemonFC Whatever that woman is in there smoking smells so bad it was pouring out of my bathroom ceiling fan and the medicine cabinet. [18:09] DaemonFC I had to tape them both off to keep (most of) it out. [18:10] DaemonFC It was just hit you in the face bad when you opened the door. [18:10] DaemonFC I don't know what sort of sensory pleasure anyone could get from smoking something that godawful. [18:11] DaemonFC It's like those cigarettes in 1984. The cheap ones that The Party let the Proles have after they ruined the economy dumping all of its production into endless wars. [18:11] DaemonFC Victory Cigarettes [18:11] DaemonFC MinceR, That's...Illinois in a word. [18:11] DaemonFC Orwellian [18:12] DaemonFC Waukegan is down to proles bickering over who is smoking next door and the landlord who mowed over their Comcast line. [18:12] DaemonFC schestowitz, The landlord seems to have whacked at least one other tenant's Comcast line. [18:12] DaemonFC They solved the problem same way I did. Replace it with 5G internet. [18:13] DaemonFC It stands to reason that if you want another lease, you won't take your landlord to small claims court, even if he's wrong. [18:13] DaemonFC So the easiest solution is to just replace the home internet with something wireless so that can't happen again. [18:22] MinceR 18 191040 < DaemonFC> I don't know what sort of sensory pleasure anyone could get from smoking something that godawful. [18:22] MinceR nicotine plus some sort of harmala alkaloid (MAO inhibitor) [18:22] MinceR it can be unpleasant and it's still addictive [18:22] MinceR one of the most addictive drugs out there [18:23] DaemonFC So they say. [18:23] DaemonFC I've smoked some cigarettes but never became addicted to them. [18:23] DaemonFC They definitely have a psychoactive effect on me, but I couldn't see myself not being able to function without more of them. [18:24] DaemonFC Now, coffee on the other hand. [18:24] DaemonFC You want to see me cursing and shouting at people and just generally in a foul mood. [18:24] DaemonFC No coffee. [18:24] DaemonFC MinceR, It's interesting too, because they apparently function in much the same way, and are addictive in much the same way. [18:25] DaemonFC MinceR, In fact, I drank a small cup the other day to steel myself for court so I wouldn't look tired or whatever in case I had to testify. [18:26] DaemonFC But it ended up being a giant nothingburger. In fact, after those two shitheads failed to appear and the state abandoned its case, about the only thing I did get to say was "Thank you, your honor, and you have a very nice day.". [18:27] DaemonFC If the police didn't observe anything and the only witness the state has, has nothing to gain or lose by not coming to court, and in fact probably won't go to court, call the bluff. [18:27] DaemonFC Hell to the yeah! [18:27] DaemonFC It's one of the only winning plays in traffic court, is if someone vital to the state's case doesn't make it. [18:28] DaemonFC At first glance, the easiest way to deal with the ticket, sending a check for $164 to the court, is actually your worst possible move. [18:28] DaemonFC Demand trial. If anyone shows up, negotiate for court supervision. [18:29] DaemonFC Because on top of the $164, even if you drive a rustbucket with minimum insurance, that ticket will cost you another $1,000 over the next 5 years in insurance once they get wind of it, and they always do. [18:29] DaemonFC And it's a strike on your driving record. [18:30] DaemonFC So if two more things happen that year, THEN you need a lawyer to handle a DMV reinstatement case AFTER the mandatory three month suspension. At which point, you'll probably drive for the 90 days anyway because you still have places to be and there's no public transit. [18:30] activelow anyhow, topic? [18:31] DaemonFC This is horrible, and a lot of it is tech. [18:31] DaemonFC The state has a database now where they ping all of the insurance companies in the state to see if you're insured with one of them. [18:31] DaemonFC If they don't hear back, you have to prove you are insured, or else. [18:31] DaemonFC 20-30 years ago, this wouldn't have been feasible. [18:32] activelow you mean car insurance? [18:32] DaemonFC Yes. And I'm not excusing uninsured motorists. They're a problem. [18:33] DaemonFC But also, a problem with a system like this is that it nabs innocent people who just don't get the letter in the mail, and then they get pulled over without a valid license plate and that's the first they hear of it. [18:35] DaemonFC Also tech....The robocallers have already figured out a way past the FTC's mandated SHAKEN/STIRRED technology. [18:35] DaemonFC We stopped getting so many robocalls for about a few weeks there, and they're at it again. [18:36] DaemonFC Sometimes the T-Mobile Scam Shield app stops them. They try to call you like 10 times in a row, back to back. [18:37] DaemonFC Government doesn't solve problems. Government is the problem. [18:37] DaemonFC For every 1 thing they do that benefits me, they do 9 other things that take away 10 times as much as the benefits. [18:37] DaemonFC Then they say "We're so great, we helped you! With the benefits!". [18:40] DaemonFC https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-landlord-says-tenants-must-get-covid-19-vaccine-or-move-out/ar-AAO7EJX [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Florida landlord says tenants must get COVID-19 vaccine or move out [18:40] DaemonFC I said this would happen. schestowitz ^ [18:43] DaemonFC https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/science-prevailed-in-fda-advisers-rejecting-covid-19-boosters-for-everyone/ [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/science-prevailed-in-fda-advisers-rejecting-covid-19-boosters-for-everyone/ ) [18:43] DaemonFC errr [18:43] DaemonFC https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/science-prevailed-in-fda-advisers-rejecting-covid-19-boosters-for-everyone/ar-AAOAe6I?li=BBnb7Kz [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Science prevailed in FDA advisers rejecting COVID-19 boosters for everyone [18:43] DaemonFC First they said the vaccines were near bulletproof, now they're saying they never said that, and that everyone always knew they were just to take the edge off when you get COVID. [18:45] activelow from the beginning argument was this DaemonFC : *everyone* will be exposed to it, and spreading shall be slowed to avoid hospital collapse [18:46] DaemonFC Right, so they shut everything down and did immense and irreparable damage to the economy. [18:46] activelow until today, none of the vaccines are explicitely recommended, in germany, regardless of what fake news and political propaganda spread [18:46] DaemonFC Didn't slow it down much. Gave up halfway in, reopened what was left. [18:47] activelow the public data isn't trustworthy anyway, because "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" was reported for 2018 already, which isn't accounted for at all [18:47] DaemonFC I think what might interest schestowitz is the reason the FDA Advisory Panel said they can't broadly recommend booster doses. [18:47] activelow nor could "the virus" sufficiently explain why hospitals almost collapsed 2018 already [18:48] DaemonFC They blamed Pfizer for not giving them enough efficacy data to go over, and they said the results from Israel don't either. [18:48] activelow *none* of the vaccines are explicitely recommended, only if "specific medical conditions" indicate any vaccine [18:48] activelow with one exception, which was as a precaution against pneumonia pneumokokke vaccination was recommended 2020 already, which Angela Merkel received march 2020. [18:49] gustaf hospitals in Germany almost collapsed in 2018? [18:49] gustaf guess I missed that [18:49] activelow yes gustaf! [18:49] MinceR 18 194345 < DaemonFC> First they said the vaccines were near bulletproof, now they're saying they never said that, and that everyone always knew they were just to take the edge off when you get COVID. [18:49] MinceR depends on the variant [18:50] MinceR they got very good numbers when testing on early variants [18:50] MinceR and then things got worse [18:50] activelow and the vaccines agitated for now are neither recommended, nor their approval status sufficiently qualified (CureVac research results!!!) [18:50] DaemonFC Now they say that the Moderna vaccine is holding up better than the Pfizer one. [18:51] DaemonFC They say that this could be because it includes more mRNA in each of the doses, which is also apparently why each dose can make you sicker than the Pfizer one. [18:51] DaemonFC The Pfizer one is FDA approved. [18:51] DaemonFC No other vaccine is. [18:52] activelow DaemonFC: but it isn't explicitely recommended! only if "specific medical conditions" indicate it. [18:52] DaemonFC The US federal government recommends it to everyone over 12. [18:52] activelow in germany [18:53] DaemonFC With a later third dose for people over 65 or who are immunocompromised. [18:53] gustaf huh this site says 4 vaccines are approved... https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/country/germany/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-covid19.trackvaccines.org | Germany COVID19 Vaccine Tracker [18:53] gustaf also around 50M people have 2 vaccine shots in Germany [18:54] activelow the recommendation in germany was, to loosely cite the head of the "vaccination commission": physicians and pharma companies will not be held accountable, no liabilities [18:54] gustaf Pfizer approved in the EU in Dec 2020 [18:54] gustaf which Is good coz I have 2 shots from it [18:54] activelow and "recommendation" means this: the vaccines can be applied, but they are NOT mandatory, and only if "specific medical condititions" indicate it [18:55] gustaf no need to the stick if the carrot is "free vaccine that protects against a deadly disease" [18:56] activelow and it is NOT verified the vaccine protected anyone, because it was/is *impossible* to verify because vaccinated were NOT tested for natural immunity!!!!!!! [18:56] gustaf Swedish vaccine rate is in the high 70s , our reward: restrictions lifted [18:56] activelow gustaf: political cash grabbing propaganda scam [18:56] gustaf lol [18:56] activelow the recommended precaution was pneumokokkes [18:56] gustaf maybe in Germany [18:56] activelow netherlands too discussed it [18:56] gustaf nothing about that here [18:57] activelow anyhow, the pneumokokke vaccines are not subject to patents to my knowledge, nor are these any innovation [18:57] activelow and there wasn't any "start ups" seeking cash grabbing at stock exchange [18:57] gustaf isn't pneumococces a bacteria not a virus [18:58] activelow yes! [18:59] MinceR so what is a vaccine against a particular bacteria supposed to do against a particular virus? [18:59] activelow MinceR: prevent severe pneumonia! [18:59] MinceR ...caused by the bacteria ● Sep 18 [19:00] MinceR won't do shit about severe pneumonia caused by SARS-CoV-2 [19:00] activelow wrong [19:00] activelow a weakened immune system is the problem [19:00] activelow and immunity required [19:01] activelow and, it wasn't me who recommended anything, i only allowed to *read*, and noticed Angela Merkel received pneuomokokke vaccination as *precaution* against the pandemic [19:02] activelow besides, "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" was reported 2018 already!!! [19:03] activelow i do NOT deny vaccination, I am vaccinated, i deny the experimental covid shots; it isn't at least clear *which* vaccine is talked about [19:03] gustaf I googled "hospital criis Germany 2018" and got no results [19:03] activelow gustaf: aerzteblatt.de, rki.de [19:03] activelow it was reported regularly, long before the corona spook [19:04] gustaf I'd probably remember the health system of the largest economy in the EU almost collapsing [19:04] activelow anyway, I even called a "vaccination center" in germany and asked which vaccines are applied: neither CureVac nor Pneumococces - which is a SCANDAL! [19:05] activelow gustaf: overloaded with patients, many arriving at emergency receiption although these should have seen a regular medic [19:05] gustaf I got one hit from DW feom 2018 which mentioned *staffing* would be an issue in the future [19:05] activelow gustaf: do not question the credibility of my argument [19:05] activelow if you do the discussion is ended [19:06] activelow if you deny evident facts there is nothing remaining to talk about [19:06] gustaf I am researching the facts that you state [19:06] activelow before the corona propaganda spook the fatalities were accountd for as seasonal flu [19:06] gustaf unfortunately I do not read German so I must rely on translations [19:06] activelow in both USA and Germany record pandemic data was reported, 2018 already [19:08] activelow it was a prologonged trend for at least a decade every year hitting another record of fatalities [19:08] activelow anyhow, if vaccination should benefit public health, then vaccination centers should have offered pneumokokkes vaccination, curevac, among others [19:08] activelow together with medical advice [19:08] activelow and reviewing the vaccination status [19:10] gustaf I must say Germany has handled this crisis quite well [19:10] gustaf kudos [19:10] activelow instead some miracle tinctures were *enforced* to benefit shareholders at stock exchange [19:10] activelow not at least verifying if those experimental tinctures applied could pose a threat to both vaccinated and unvaccinated [19:11] activelow they didn't at least PCR test vaccinated to verify if the experimental startup vaccines benefit anyone or posed a threat [19:12] gustaf everyone I know has been vaccinated since early Spring [19:12] gustaf no ill effects [19:12] activelow maybe because the pandemic had spread already and vaccinated were immune already? [19:12] gustaf doubt ot [19:12] activelow first herd immunity? then vaccinate? [19:13] gustaf as risk groups voluntarily isolated themselves [19:13] activelow what a nonsense [19:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 86.75 swarm size (avg): 259.88 [19:14] activelow if at all vaccination had been necessary *before* any pandemic, not *after* spreading for three years [19:14] gustaf it does not explain the high correlation between low vaccine rates and high hospitilzaionts/deaths in the USA [19:14] activelow since record pandemic in 2018 in germany Karneval was celebrated another two years! with crowded soccers stadiums [19:15] activelow and three years later vaccination should prevent or protect anyone from an infection? three years later? [19:15] activelow what a nonsense [19:16] activelow gustaf: it cannot explain it because vaccination probably isn't univariately related to fatalities [19:17] MinceR (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/777759.mp4 [19:21] DaemonFC Americans work 137 more hours per year than Japanese workers, 260 more hours per year than British workers, and 499 more hours per year than French workers. [19:21] DaemonFC That sounds like hell to me. [19:22] DaemonFC People say the Japanese get depressed about how overworked they are and commit suicide. [19:22] DaemonFC I can't imagine how 137 more hours per year on top of that would help. [19:23] DaemonFC The US has more than a few aspects of a third world country for the bottom half. [19:23] gustaf https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_ge1ftWYAcNJFH.jpg [19:23] DaemonFC schestowitz, I have to discourage Mandy from using PTO time to take vacation days. [19:24] DaemonFC Because then Walmart takes your PTO hours and uses it to pay you instead of holidays when the store is closed and you couldn't possibly be there working even if your schedule would have had you there. [19:24] DaemonFC They eliminated holiday pay as part of freeing up cash for the hourly raises. [19:25] DaemonFC Overall, you come out ahead vs. the system before. [19:25] DaemonFC I mean, like some of the stuff they cut was a quarterly bonus that was like $400-500 if you didn't have any call offs. [19:25] DaemonFC So sometimes you'd get it, sometimes not. [19:26] DaemonFC Assuming a perfect attendance record and with the holiday pay each year, you weren't much worse off at the $13 an hour than you were at the $16 an hour. [19:28] DaemonFC They also made "tweaks" to the PTO accumulation. Everyone used to earn it at the same rate, but they tweaked it so you only earn half as much per pay period on your first year as the old rate, then 75% on year 2, then 100% on year 3. You have to make it to year 4 to start earning PTO faster than the old setup, but they have 40% turnover every year. [19:28] DaemonFC They do a lot of things to generate good PR for themselves, but it's really just taking it out of one pot, putting it in another. [19:29] MinceR gustaf: lol [19:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:39] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:39] schestowitz Patent and Trademark Office [19:39] *activelow (~activelow@kjquitvzjebrk.irc) has joined #techrights [19:42] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/777438.jpg [19:45] *activelow has quit (Quit: another reboot) [19:51] techrights-news #Missing Standard Apps on elementary OS and Guide To Install Them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155787 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Missing Standard Apps on elementary OS and Guide To Install Them | Tux Machines [19:52] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155788 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:53] techrights-news Stable Kernels: 5.14.6, 5.13.19, and 5.10.67 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155789 #GPL #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.14.6, 5.13.19, and 5.10.67 | Tux Machines [19:55] *activelow (~activelow@yytfysqumc55n.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [20:00] techrights-news Almost a dozen German language Gemini capsules https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007133.html [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] German Language Gemini Community in feddit.de [20:01] techrights-news "Most clocks these days have ditched the round face and instead prefer to tell time through the medium of 7-segment displays. h is bringing the round face to digital clocks with his time-keeping piece, MakeTime." https://hackaday.com/2021/09/18/unique-clock-doubles-as-a-development-board/ [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unique Clock Doubles As A Development Board | Hackaday [20:03] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/R1HQ2YI [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Allow me to show you my kitties! - Album on Imgur [20:04] techrights-news Software #patent #litigation profiteers in #Europe still looking for ways around the law https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1111556/using-file-prevalence-to-inform-aggressiveness-of-behavioral-heuristics-non-technical #swpats [20:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Using File Prevalence To Inform Aggressiveness Of Behavioral Heuristics: Non-technical - Intellectual Property - Germany [20:05] techrights-news Submarines are useless and a waste of money. They're just a white elephant anyway in 2021. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-16/french-furious-at-biden-for-cutting-them-out-of-submarine-deal [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [20:07] techrights-news You should not need a so-called 'phone' to do this... https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/make-3d-printed-selfie [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | How to Make a 3D Printed Selfie With Your Phone | Tom's Hardware [20:12] techrights-news That's not what the licence is or says https://infotechlead.com/software/oracle-java-17-released-under-a-free-to-use-license-68671 [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oracle Java 17 released under a free-to-use license - InfotechLead [20:13] techrights-news #java #gpl licence noted in https://analyticsindiamag.com/oracle-releases-java-17-heres-all-the-latest-updates/ https://devclass.com/2021/09/17/java-17-adds-features-for-safe-concise-code-oracle-changes-jdk-licensing-looks-to-shorten-time-between-lts-releases/ [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | Oracle Releases Java 17, Heres All The Latest Updates [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Java 17 dons features for safe, concise code; Oracle changes JDK licensing, pushes for more frequent LTS releases DEVCLASS [20:14] techrights-news What the press release said https://www.streetinsider.com/PRNewswire/Oracle+Releases+Java+17/18937429.html #oracle #java [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | Oracle Releases Java 17 [20:15] techrights-news "Oracle this week made Oracle JDK available for free, for personal, commercial and production use, including quarterly security updates, for a limited time." https://www.fudzilla.com/news/53548-oracle-makes-jdk-free [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com | Oracle makes JDK free [20:16] techrights-news "Since the previous #JDK 11 LTS released three years ago, over 70 JEPs have been implemented." https://it-online.co.za/2021/09/16/oracle-releases-java-17/ [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-it-online.co.za | Oracle releases Java 17 - IT-Online [20:20] techrights-news #gpl software "creating jobs" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/551425035/allaboutapps-disclosed-a-list-of-top-drupal-web-development-companies-in-2021 #drupal [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | AllAboutApps Disclosed a List of Top Drupal Web Development Companies in 2021 - EIN Presswire [20:22] techrights-news Why the Future of #Database Management Lies In #freesw https://www.toolbox.com/tech/data-management/articles/open-source-data-management/ #toolbox | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/18/#latest [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.toolbox.com | NO TITLE [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:22] gustaf https://twitter.com/PoorlyAgedStuff/status/1425207830722879488?s=20 [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PoorlyAgedStuff: https://t.co/wHTUe0yudD [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PoorlyAgedStuff: https://t.co/wHTUe0yudD [20:28] techrights-news #wipo admitting mistakes? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tm3zjptpr5qk/wipo-proof-to-end-in-2022-after-poor-demand see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | WIPO Proof to end in 2022 after poor demand | Managing Intellectual Property [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights [20:31] techrights-news Automated translation: World Free Software Day: why it is celebrated today and what are the advantages of these programs https://marketresearchtelecast.com/world-free-software-day-why-it-is-celebrated-today-and-what-are-the-advantages-of-these-programs/158872/ [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | World Free Software Day: why it is celebrated today and what are the advantages of these programs - Market Research Telecast [20:33] techrights-news Still seeing quite a few "new" articles about #linux #kernel turning 30 years almost a month ago http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154866#comment-31024 [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux Machines [20:35] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mxduvgnfsfagg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:40] schestowitz gustaf: dafaq? [20:40] schestowitz I knew he was an idioy [20:40] schestowitz but not also a chronic liar [20:41] schestowitz in the US the anti-vaxxers are sort of religious, leaning to evangelical church [20:41] schestowitz I'm talking about real anti-vaxxers [20:41] schestowitz people who reject the covid-19 stuff are not (but can be) anti-vaxxers [20:41] schestowitz maybe 5% of them are, depending on the country [20:42] schestowitz and with Pence we already know that many Trump and right-wing base are the same group that opposes all vaccines on some pointless ground [20:42] schestowitz but that tweet also show how they try to divide the matter along wing grounds [20:42] schestowitz not education or religion [20:42] schestowitz this is why the US is so hopeless [20:43] schestowitz for now, let them sink deeper in debt as they bomb more countries and subsidize large corporations at taxpayers' expense [20:51] *techrights_guest|43 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:51] *mib_egzfia (~519aac55@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:55] activelow ironically, in support of vaccination the corona spook vaccination must be battled [20:57] activelow experimental miracle tinctures distributed in "vaccination centers" *without* medical advice, vaccination without testing for immunity first, unverifiable risks and benefists [20:59] activelow recommended vaccines are *not* offered, vaccination status not verified, instead in those vaccination centers different miracle tinctures are offered to push shareholder value at stock exchange ● Sep 18 [21:00] activelow btw. in germany religious psycho sects such as catholic and protestant church control politics and and media; and they pushed the corona incitement and propaganda spook [21:02] activelow furthermore the lockdown and vaccination campaign was ignited almost two years too late, since "deadliest pandemic in 30 years" was reported 2018 already, and germans continued celebrating karneval, crowded soccer stadiums, as if it never happened, 2018 [21:03] activelow if the pandemic spread for three years, and everyone was exposed already anyway, specificially in crowded cities, vaccinating a population which probably developed immunity already is nonsense [21:04] activelow this isn't an opinion, these are *FACTS* [21:04] activelow undeniably evident [21:05] activelow instead it seems due to their imaginative powers politics and news and media think a pandemic begins by the power of their words spoken, and a pandemic ends when they announced it [21:05] activelow no testing was conducted in 2018, hence a pandemic never happened at that time [21:05] activelow and three years later when government announces this all are cured [21:06] activelow completely arbitrary propaganda and agitation [21:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 121.26 swarm size (avg): 259.86 [21:20] schestowitz-TR2 you keep referring back to 2018 [21:20] schestowitz-TR2 there were no lock-downs [21:20] gustaf I've tried to google a bit and afaics there's no excess mortality in 2018 [21:21] schestowitz-TR2 had there been no lock-downs in germany (never might masks, distance etc.), how many would have died, not just of covid but denial of access to hospital [21:21] schestowitz-TR2 missed appointments, scans for cancer etc. [21:21] schestowitz-TR2 gustaf: in winter the number of flu deaths vary a lot [21:21] schestowitz-TR2 also in the uk [21:21] schestowitz-TR2 some winters ago we had crowded hospitals [21:21] gustaf yep, Sweden too [21:22] schestowitz-TR2 covid is worse than flu [21:22] schestowitz-TR2 let me show you a graph [21:22] gustaf some people think that a lot of the deaths from Covid happened to people who did not die in the mild flu season of 2018/19 [21:22] gustaf schestowitz-TR2: not disagreeing [21:22] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/15/wales-and-england-excess-deaths/ [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Wales and England Excess Deaths, by Week [21:22] schestowitz that's 2018, 19, 20, 21 [21:22] schestowitz you can compare the winters [21:23] schestowitz-TR2 after covid surges it's off the sharts [21:23] schestowitz-TR2 you're talking about something like 10,000 (!!!) extra deaths PER WEEK [21:23] schestowitz-TR2 just in England and Wales [21:24] schestowitz-TR2 not inc. Northern Ireland and Scotland [21:24] schestowitz-TR2 you'd have a shortage of coffin supplies if you did not cremate [21:25] activelow gustaf: WRONG [21:25] gustaf but the problem with covid isn't mortality per se, it's that it clogs up ERs and ICUs [21:26] activelow i am citing *official* RKI and aerzteblatt.de data!!! [21:26] gustaf with all respect activelow you totally misread sanctions against that chip maker you keep talking about [21:26] activelow and it was cited as "deadliest pandemic in 30years" by german medical journal [21:26] gustaf ok link me [21:27] gustaf so I can google translate [21:27] activelow aerzteblatt.de [21:27] gustaf dude that's a HUGE site [21:27] DaemonFC I doubt taking a third dose of the Pfizer vaccine will do me any long term harm. [21:27] gustaf I don;t know enought German to search it [21:27] activelow i even posted the specific URL to the german protester movement [21:27] DaemonFC But things did kind of get weird for a while. [21:27] gustaf just give me an URL [21:27] gustaf yeah I'm not going to read protester stuff [21:28] DaemonFC It turned out to be stranger after-effects than the second dose. [21:28] DaemonFC And some took weeks to subside. [21:28] gustaf just link me a url from aerzteblatt [21:28] gustaf and I can run it through google [21:29] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: world's lab wants to make it obligatory next [21:29] activelow just because lies and propaganda are repeated infinitely doesn't mean it is true [21:29] schestowitz-TR2 so you cannot even places without that shot that even FDA says is not acceptable [21:29] activelow truth is deadliest pandemic was reported 2018 already. end of discussion [21:29] activelow if you do not admit facts then it is useless to waste any more minute [21:29] schestowitz-TR2 except maybe for obscenely bizarre situation [21:30] schestowitz-TR2 like super-high-risk subjects [21:30] gustaf activelow: I will not take your word for it without some sort of corroborating info [21:30] gustaf I have never heard of this [21:30] schestowitz-TR2 US FDA says no to US company [21:30] gustaf that 2018 was excess mortality in Germany [21:30] gustaf so I require proof [21:30] activelow sorry gustaf: i remember debates on freenode where i posted the official links to medical journal and RKI on several occasions [21:30] gustaf ok [21:30] activelow and then got banned even from the channel, because of citing *official* data from that time [21:31] gustaf what channel was that? [21:31] MinceR who made aerzteblatt.de and RKI the ultimate arbiters of truth? [21:31] schestowitz-TR2 but "world's lab" acts as if US FDA has no clue and US BigCompany is right regardless, and that 30-year secret unsealed contracts seems to have some obigations [21:31] activelow gustaf: got the logfiles, not worth the time to dig out now [21:31] gustaf you need ot triangulate the truth MinceR [21:31] gustaf activelow: if you find the time later I would appreciate it [21:31] MinceR also, what was the pathogen according to them that caused this "deadliest pandemic" in 2018? [21:32] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: even places of worship [21:32] activelow same with vaccine recommendations and research results: undeniably evident, CureVac, Pneumokokke vaccine recommendation, it was even reported Merkel received her's in march 2020 already as a precaution against pneumonia [21:32] schestowitz-TR2 unlikes any other country that I know of [21:32] activelow evidence, facts, simply ignored, and instead distraction and dis-information [21:32] schestowitz-TR2 religious congregations of more than 50 people? Next they're demand "BOOSTER" [21:32] schestowitz-TR2 which the FDA denies approval of [21:32] MinceR what merkel's people guessed in march 2020 is not necessarily the best knowledge today [21:33] activelow MinceR: unspecific [21:33] schestowitz-TR2 merkel said she would expected 2/3 of the population to gey covid-19 evenmtually [21:33] activelow maybe first check the facts and then decide what is best knowledge and what isn't [21:33] schestowitz-TR2 I think it was before Germany studies on long-term effects on nerves, cardic [21:34] schestowitz-TR2 never mind the long-known lung issues [21:34] activelow the most recent and credible research results were the CureVac ones: "insufficient for approval", together with an explanation WHY that is [21:34] activelow i posted the dw.com url several times here [21:34] MinceR also, iirc no vaccines were available against SARS-CoV-2 back then [21:34] MinceR so it should surprise no one that merkel didn't get one of those [21:34] schestowitz-TR2 if I want to see many covidiots in one place I turn on a football games, as I did earlier today (Man City drew). Maybe 1 in 100 wore a mask. [21:35] MinceR activelow: i've checked plenty of facts and your attitude makes me uninterested in continuing this "debate" [21:35] activelow wrong, you haven't [21:36] techrights-news Assessing the number of German servers or German-speaking servers in #geminispace this afternoon/evening https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007134.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007136.html [21:36] activelow MinceR: Lauterbach and Kekules argued in 2018 *no tests* were taken from hospitalized patients with flu symptoms, because of costs, although testing was indicated [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] German Language Gemini Community in feddit.de [21:36] MinceR right, because i didn't read the Ultimate Arbiters of Truth, conveniently only available in german [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] German Language Gemini Community in feddit.de [21:37] MinceR also, you might want to get off that high horse before you fall and break your neck [21:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Now NPR admits the nurses resigning is a big problem. [21:37] DaemonFC They tried to trivialize it before. [21:37] DaemonFC Make it seem rare. [21:37] schestowitz-TR2 NPR... [21:37] schestowitz-TR2 Funded by Microsoft and Epstein's CFF [21:37] schestowitz-TR2 *BFF [21:38] DaemonFC They lied about the effectiveness of the vaccines. [21:38] schestowitz-TR2 not just NPR [21:38] DaemonFC Then they shamed anyone who wouldn't sign up to be a part of the alpha test. [21:38] activelow pardon? i am not the one posting propaganda and agitation on shitbook and shitter any of the miracle tinctures protected anyone [21:38] schestowitz-TR2 to me, this was always the key thing. let the data spell out efficacy [21:38] DaemonFC Now they admit it's not so great and people are resigning if they can to avoid taking them. [21:38] schestowitz-TR2 moderna said 95% [21:38] activelow nonetheless I am certain sharholders did benefit since the vaccination propaganda spook was ignited [21:38] schestowitz-TR2 then viagracompany changed 94% to 96% iirc [21:39] schestowitz-TR2 pure marketing [21:39] schestowitz-TR2 nobody independent even checked those claims [21:39] DaemonFC Well, they were saying 93% with Moderna at first, then they said 89% 120 days in. [21:39] schestowitz-TR2 later they went higher than 96% [21:39] DaemonFC Then they said 95% with Pfizer at first and 77% at 120 days in. [21:39] activelow and i might add it wasn't billG funded research which benefit, CureVac stocks crashed since when they reported credible research results [21:39] schestowitz-TR2 and fatality numbers sort of dispute this now [21:39] DaemonFC So if anyone was going to need another dose, probably Pfizer. [21:40] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: who checks those numbers? [21:40] activelow while "BionTech" headquarterd "An der Goldgrube" street (cash grabbing street being the translation of this), stocks exploded [21:40] schestowitz-TR2 Nobody. They can make those up. [21:40] schestowitz-TR2 For "shareholders' value" [21:40] schestowitz-TR2 pot-mouthing the Chinese and Russian one is OK, but theirs is golden? [21:40] schestowitz-TR2 maybe they're all not so great [21:41] activelow their vaccine couldn't at least be verified since vaccinated were not tested for immunity *before* vaccination, and since 2018 reported record fatalities already vaccinating two years later seems moot if the pandemic had spread for years, uncontained, no lockdown, Karneval celebrated with millions [21:41] activelow problem is none of the vaccines could be verified reliably, this is the problem [21:42] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: my dad is very upset, as he got a jab and it doesn't look to have improved things, they just keep pushing more and more and more jabs [21:42] schestowitz-TR2 and he gets lots of text messages menacing him into more doses [21:43] schestowitz-TR2 this is how they'll lose the battle [21:43] schestowitz-TR2 even the covid-vaccinated are starting to become fed up [21:43] schestowitz-TR2 because the results they see are unsatisfactory and they feel like "they keep pushing more to us" [21:43] schestowitz-TR2 I said it for months [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 when you mention third jabs people are becoming more reluctant to take first and second [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 based on gov. data they're run out of people willing [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 only 10-20k per day still get a first [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 mostly very young people they 'push' this to [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 for 2nd dose it's higher than this [21:45] activelow and it isn't recommended either, only if "specific medical preconditions" indicate it [21:45] DaemonFC That's where I am now. [21:45] schestowitz-TR2 also, mentioning "variants" or "mutants" makes people feel like they're getting "yesterday's product" [21:45] schestowitz-TR2 buyers' remorse [21:45] activelow "vaccination commision" only argued insofar medics and pharma were not held accountable for their miracle tincture this time [21:46] activelow it couldn't at least be verified those experimental vaccines did not pose a risk to either vaccinated or unvaccinated [21:46] activelow if experimental vaccines are pushed [21:46] activelow meaning, vaccinated potentially pose a *risk* [21:47] activelow while it couldn't at least be verified the vaccines had any benefit because vaccinated were *NOT TESTED for immunity BEFORE* vaccination [21:47] schestowitz-TR2 it's "criminal" to give this to children because 1) it won't save their lives 2) it won't prevent them contracting/spreading it 3) side effects, if any, will last longer and harm them for many years [21:47] schestowitz-TR2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Thalidomide - Wikipedia [21:47] schestowitz-TR2 west german [21:47] schestowitz-TR2 made a ton of babies without limbs [21:47] schestowitz-TR2 took them years to figure out this was the culprit [21:48] schestowitz-TR2 and it had already spread to other countries [21:48] activelow Gruenthal [21:49] DaemonFC They are making more people hesitant by pitching boosters. [21:49] schestowitz-TR2 "The total number of embryos affected by use during pregnancy is estimated at 10,000" [21:49] DaemonFC It makes it sound as if the first two doses have worn off entirely in people who took them at the beginning of this, when that's not the case at all. [21:50] schestowitz-TR2 "The birth defects caused by thalidomide led to the development of greater drug regulation and monitoring in many countries" [21:50] activelow DaemonFC: CureVac research results "insufficient for approval" [21:50] activelow they reported a dozen of mutations [21:51] activelow and this doesn't account for the dozens of pneumokokke strains causing pneumonia, anti-biotic resistent [21:51] *qa_ has quit (connection closed) [21:51] activelow similar problems with the pneumokokke vaccine, which requires to target dozens of strains [21:51] *qa_ (~qa@fa9xe2vquf842.irc) has joined #techrights [21:51] activelow anti-biotics abuse was reported for decades too, mass animal farming etc. [21:52] activelow and now a magic miracle wonder tincture shall cure it? [21:53] DaemonFC I hate the word "tincture" [21:53] DaemonFC Usually, when you hear it, it's some crackpot pitching homeopathic placebos and expensive shower head water filters. [21:54] DaemonFC Actually, a lot of the people pitching it aren't crackpots. They just have to sound like they are. [21:54] DaemonFC It's client management. [21:55] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, ^ [21:55] schestowitz-TR2 ha [21:55] DaemonFC My mom bought into those expensive shower head water filters. [21:55] techrights-news GIMP 2.10.28 is Here as a Bugfix Release, Version 2.10.26 Was Skipped http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155777#comment-31026 [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMP 2.10.28 Released with Improvements and Bug Fixes, New Script-Fu Function | Tux Machines [21:56] MinceR (no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/777365.mp4 [21:56] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: sounds like BS [21:56] schestowitz-TR2 like dewormers for covid-19 [21:56] DaemonFC I told her "Let's see, a little bit of carbon.....Enough for maybe three or four Brita filters.....Brita filters do 40 gallons of drinking water and make it taste better.....You go through 40 gallons of shower water in 7 or 8 minutes....". [21:56] DaemonFC "So a filter every 3 showers?" [21:56] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: maybe it filters out WORMS in the water :-D [21:56] schestowitz-TR2 filter sieve [21:57] DaemonFC No, what happens is they have hard water in Huntington and so she calls me to come pry it back out after it's been so clogged up it doesn't spray anymore. [21:58] DaemonFC It's like the 20 minutes or so I'll need to spend tomorrow replacing this cabin air filter on my car. [21:58] DaemonFC Most cars before the early 2000s didn't even have them. [21:58] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: he won [21:58] DaemonFC And the reason why they added them is so the air would smell a bit better, at least until you forgot to change it and it would eventually plug up and fry the blower. [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 cars pick up lots of fumes from cars ahead [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 and air pollution kills each year more than covid-19 does [21:59] DaemonFC Yeah, I can only imagine what this is going to look like. [21:59] *activelow pukes [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 but only in east asia seem to be aware and put masks on [21:59] DaemonFC That engine air filter I pulled out was pretty black. [21:59] activelow have they grinded old car wheels into my tobacco now and waste water residue? ● Sep 18 [22:00] DaemonFC If a car has been driven in an area with a lot of soot or dirt, then the filter will become black. [22:00] schestowitz-TR2 dent filter [22:00] DaemonFC If the car has sat there more than being driven, then eventually it'll turn yellow. [22:00] schestowitz-TR2 *denyfilter [22:01] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I think I can safely say the clunking problem is solved. [22:01] schestowitz-TR2 $800 later? [22:01] DaemonFC Probably those worn out struts that I had replaced because the car was bouncing around and sounded awful wore out the ball joints too. [22:01] DaemonFC That's what they were bouncing up and down on. [22:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, It's basically a full front end rebuild at this point. [22:02] DaemonFC The only thing that's original is the Constant Velocity Joints. [22:02] techrights-news Give Boring Video Cinematic Color Grading With LUTs - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YRlhH1wT8lY #video #invidious [22:02] DaemonFC And even then, those needed new grease and boots. [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Give Boring Video Cinematic Color Grading With LUTs - Invidious [22:03] DaemonFC The engine itself will outlast most of its gaskets. [22:04] DaemonFC I'd be very wary of anyone who would promote an "engine flush" on an engine like this. Or any engine really, but especially like this. [22:04] DaemonFC Austin wasn't very smart. [22:05] DaemonFC He had a van with 273,000 miles on it and some guy at Jiffy Lube said get an engine flush, and they billed him $150 for it. [22:05] DaemonFC After that, he was losing a quart of oil every week in an engine that wasn't leaking any before. [22:06] techrights-news Some of the 'alternatives' are also #Microsoft and also #proprietarysoftware. Rather awful list... https://www.itsfoss.net/visual-studio-code-alternative/ [22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dont like Visual Studio Code? Try these 5 Alternatives Apps - itsfoss.net [22:06] DaemonFC Best to just let sleeping dogs lie. After a while, all of that gunk and crap that they say the stuff will clean off is spackling over cracks in the engine's seals and piston rings and gaskets. [22:06] DaemonFC And if you try cleaning it out, you'll be sorry. [22:07] DaemonFC In fact, it's not at all uncommon to run those through and then get engine lights that you can't get to turn back off short of a full rebuild, and then you can't pass emissions and get your plates. [22:07] DaemonFC :) [22:07] DaemonFC Hard carbon can be a problem, but it actually does help sometimes. [22:09] techrights-news #Microsoft boosters find the audacity to badmouth "Linux" because Microsoft's attack on Linux ( #WSL is attack on GNU/Linux) is defunct https://www.tomshardware.com/news/researchers-find-windows-subsystem-linux-malware [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Researchers Find Malware Hiding in Windows Subsystem for Linux | Tom's Hardware [22:10] MinceR is the "hiding" malware called "Windows"? [22:10] techrights-news Serious Warning Issued For Millions Of #Apple #iPhone Useds https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/09/18/apple-iphone-warning-security-wifi-ssid-new-iphone-hack/ [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Serious Warning Issued For Millions Of Apple iPhone Users [22:11] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: EXACTLY [22:11] DaemonFC MinceR, It's kind of funny really, that something that's just filthy and gross is all that's standing between you and the car being too expensive to be worth repairing. [22:11] MinceR :> [22:11] DaemonFC And that those quickie lube places ruin people's cars to get $100 from them that day. [22:12] techrights-news #DRM Driver Posted For HEY HI Processing Unit - Initially Focused On #Mediatek SoCs - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DRM-AI-APU-RFC #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DRM Driver Posted For AI Processing Unit - Initially Focused On Mediatek SoCs - Phoronix [22:13] DaemonFC I might need to get a dehumidifier. [22:14] DaemonFC It gets kind of sticky down here even though it isn't hot. [22:14] DaemonFC Maybe just drying out the air would save some of my money from Communist Edison. [22:17] techrights-news The Truth they are not telling you about Themes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155790 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GNOME [22:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Truth they are not telling you about Themes | Tux Machines [22:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I'm transitioning over to Vivaldi. [22:18] DaemonFC Where Mozilla is going is certainly no better. [22:18] techrights-news #EasyEffects (Formerly PulseEffects) Apply Audio Effects to #PipeWire Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155791 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyEffects (Formerly PulseEffects) Apply Audio Effects to PipeWire Apps | Tux Machines [22:18] DaemonFC Defaulting to Bing is truly weird given how they had to reverse engineer a new scheme in Windows 11 that prevents applications from becoming the overall default for multiple things at once. [22:18] MinceR :> [22:19] DaemonFC Presumably this will make it even more of a pain in the ass to use foobar2000 or VLC or LibreOffice. [22:19] schestowitz-TR2 vivaldi is proprietary [22:19] schestowitz-TR2 move to falkon [22:19] MinceR it's not like they ever cared about what is right or weird since the SJWs took over [22:19] schestowitz-TR2 vivaldi also spies [22:19] DaemonFC Spies? [22:19] schestowitz-TR2 prove me wrong [22:19] DaemonFC Well, you said they did. [22:20] schestowitz-TR2 it's proprietary [22:20] schestowitz-TR2 opera=china [22:20] schestowitz-TR2 same person who made vivaldi [22:20] DaemonFC Anyway, back to COVID, I think there's multiple problems with the public campaigns. [22:20] schestowitz-TR2 no, not back to covid [22:20] schestowitz-TR2 stay on tech [22:20] DaemonFC There's a huge amount of misinformation, but it's also being fueled by information overload and conflicting information from official sources. [22:21] DaemonFC So they're certainly not helping by not putting out comprehensible facts and figures that don't wobble back and forth every day. [22:22] DaemonFC Ironically, I think it's the "information" fueling the misinformation, including the preventable "shooting ourselves in the foot" thing of Biden saying we'd have boosters by September 20th only to be embarrassed by the FDA panel. [22:23] MinceR maybe "covid" _is_ tech :> [22:23] DaemonFC Dad thinks it's germ warfare and then Trump tried to save us from the evil Chinese people with the vaccines. [22:24] DaemonFC But now the vaccines don't work, you see, and it's all Biden's fault for allowing those disgusting Mexicans in. [22:24] DaemonFC With the mutant strains that China is getting in here via them. [22:24] DaemonFC The Felta Variant [22:25] DaemonFC Of course, the Mexicans are celebrating the Mexican Independence Day by flooding our streets with gridlock and throwing trash everywhere. [22:25] DaemonFC I was trying to drive through it and there were paper plates and plastic bags and beer bottles all over the street. [22:26] DaemonFC Nothing like going out of your way to make people who were sympathetic pissed off at you.... [22:26] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [22:26] schestowitz-TR2 how is this ontopic? [22:27] DaemonFC Felta is on Facebook. [22:27] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: it's a virus [22:27] DaemonFC Along with all of his "friends". [22:27] schestowitz-TR2 scientology [22:27] DaemonFC The place just gets more toxic by the minute. [22:27] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I know, right? [22:27] DaemonFC He needs more auditing down at the religious technology center. [22:27] techrights-news Mike Gabriel: X2Go, Remmina and X2GoKdrive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155792 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mike Gabriel: X2Go, Remmina and X2GoKdrive | Tux Machines [22:28] techrights-news The 8 Best Wireless #PenetrationTesting Tools for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155793 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 8 Best Wireless Penetration Testing Tools for Linux | Tux Machines [22:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, They say they have a time machine. [22:28] DaemonFC I thought about invading and demanding to use it. [22:28] DaemonFC With their timey wimey stuff, I could go back and fix a few things. [22:29] DaemonFC Just Back to the Future my entire life and I'm some Buttcoin Billionaire. [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: rianne and I have just watched a documentary about wombats. That's as much about "tech" as covid is [22:29] DaemonFC Owns all of California. [22:30] DaemonFC Well, it is impossible to tell if anyone ever develops a time machine and uses it, right? [22:30] DaemonFC As soon as they're successful you have no memory of the timeline they just erased. [22:31] DaemonFC That's like sci-fi 101. Maybe that's how Andrew Lee happened. [22:32] MinceR schestowitz-TR2: yes, but it might be an artificially developed version, hence, "tech" :> [22:32] DaemonFC Alternate Lee just stormed the Religious Technology Center including all of those Tom Cruise clones from Oblivion, and got to the time machine. [22:33] DaemonFC MinceR, I still can't figure out why the Church of Scientology bankrolled Battlefield Earth. [22:33] DaemonFC That was one of the biggest box office bombs ever. [22:33] MinceR because lrh wrote it, duh [22:34] MinceR and so they all believe it to be brilliant [22:35] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:38] DaemonFC Scientology is illegal in Germany. [22:39] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lion-autocracy [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Lion Autocracy [22:39] DaemonFC In fact, they investigated Microsoft because a Scientology-backed company wrote the defrag program in Windows 2000. [22:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2008/04/20/scientology-microsoft/ [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Government Delegate Compares Microsoft Methods to Scientology Cult | Techrights [22:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/microsoft-as-a-cult/ [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Like a Cult, According to Former Microsoft Insider | Techrights [22:41] *activelow (~activelow@b4jjzquhwb7y2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:45] techrights-news Gemini specification revision history https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007140.html the specs are now in the hands of the community; Solderpunk is involved a lot less. Less is more. #geminiProtocol [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [spec] Specification revision history [22:46] techrights-news "It is difficult to avoid killing civilians in a war, but how difficult depends on the way the fighting is done. When fighting with swords, it's not hard to see whether someone is a soldier. With air strikes, it is not easy to avoid mistakes, as #Nigeria has discovered." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#18_September_2021_%28Bonding_over_wars%29 [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [22:47] techrights-news #Eritrean and #Tigray forces killed and raped refugees - HRW https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/exclusive-hrw-eritrean-tigrayan-forces-killed-raped-refugees-2021-09-16/ [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE: Eritrean and Tigrayan forces killed and raped refugees - HRW | Reuters [22:48] techrights-news "That obtaining the list requires a warrant is a step forward, but there needs to be other limits on launching a "fishing expedition" against people simply for being on the list. Either some limit on the data they can get, or some other grounds to suspect an individual, or both." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#18_September_2021_%28US_thug_departments_acquiring_tracking_data%29 [22:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [22:48] techrights-news #SparkyLinux 2021.09 is out. I'm waiting for their site to have a notice. #debian #gnu #linux #poland [22:50] techrights-news Retro https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-access-bbses-linux-using-telnet/ #bbc #gnu #linux [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Access BBSes in Linux Using Telnet [22:50] techrights-news Retro https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-access-bbses-linux-using-telnet/ #bbs #gnu #linux [22:51] techrights-news #Sioyek : A PDF Reader For Researchers?? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=w9gm6Me7tLM #video #pdf [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Sioyek: A PDF Reader For Researchers?? - Invidious [22:54] techrights-news Why oh why did Brad Linder redirect the RSS feed of "Linux Smartphones" to another another which -- inter alia -- pushes #microsoft #proprietarySoftware and malicious stuff? [22:54] techrights-news Repurposing the #VFD unit from an old Epson POS display using Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/09/18/repurposing-the-vfd-unit-from-an-old-epson-pos-display-using-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Repurposing the VFD unit from an old Epson POS display using Arduino | Arduino Blog [22:56] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:56] techrights-news The well-proven shots that are not large-scale #clinicalTrials and are generally very effective (old people here are advised to take these before winters) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/us/flu-shot-covid.html [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | It's Time to Get a Flu Shot - The New York Times [22:58] techrights-news Corrupt #EPO has put its head in the "clown", just like confidential data https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210917.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO holds cloud event for IP offices [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights ● Sep 18 [23:00] techrights-news Funny that #EPO mentions #EUIPO , which is its #EU #corruption pipeline https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210917a.html details in http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO welcomes new trainees, bids farewell to graduates [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XX Top Jobs at EUIPO for Compliant Baltic Officials? | Techrights [23:05] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155794 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:06] techrights-news Audiocasts/Videos: GNU World Order, Sioyek, LUTs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155795 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Videos: GNU World Order, Sioyek, LUTs | Tux Machines [23:06] XRevan86 YouTube blocked videos with smartvote information on the Navalny's channel on the territory of Russia. [23:06] schestowitz-TR2 of course [23:07] techrights-news Report suggests UKIPO-EPO dual filings for #softwarepatents https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tm5vch2vz5p2/this-week-in-ip-ukipo-calls-for-feedback-pearson-sues-chegg-in-textbook-case-and-more #epo crimes spreading outside the #eu too. #swpats @zoobab [23:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: UKIPO calls for feedback, Pearson sues Chegg in textbook case, and more | Managing Intellectual Property [23:08] XRevan86 Gone from Google Docs also. [23:08] XRevan86 they removed them for violating terms and conditions [23:08] techrights-news "Pete and Stephan discuss the Constitutionality of Biden's #vaccine #mandate and then get into discussions about Hoppe's plan for local politics and how it can fight against overreach by the Feds." Not the vaccine #patent waiver? https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol357-free-man-beyond-the-wall-ep-631-with-pete-quinones-bidens-mandate-and-getting-to-a-hoppean-framework/ [23:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL357 | Free Man Beyond The Wall Ep. 631 with Pete Quiones: Bidens Mandate and Getting to a Hoppean Framework [23:10] techrights-news #genetics = no #patents or #monopolies in the way of patients in need http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/16/japan-the-ip-high-court-has-clarified-that-the-japanese-bolar-exemption-covers-clinical-testing-for-not-only-generic-but-also-innovator-drugs/ [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Japan: The IP High Court has clarified that the Japanese Bolar exemption covers clinical testing for not only generic but also innovator drugs - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:10] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: Google violates terms and conditions [23:10] schestowitz-TR2 for starters, it helps bomb a lot of people [23:12] *alextee (~alextee@r8gpgvx5ypb7i.irc) has joined #techrights [23:12] techrights-news #epo #crime #europe #eu #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ [23:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 88.30 swarm size (avg): 259.83 [23:16] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/09/18/the-freest-platform-on-the-web [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [23:25] schestowitz-TR2 :( [23:25] schestowitz-TR2 BTW, no response from them in twitter [23:25] schestowitz-TR2 maybe I'm a putin agent to them [23:26] techrights-news #ProprietarySecurity Issues http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155796 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Security Issues | Tux Machines [23:27] techrights-news #Kernel: Graphics and Linux M1 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155797 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Graphics and Linux M1 Support | Tux Machines [23:27] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [23:28] *mib_egzfia has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:28] *techrights_guest|43 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:33] techrights-news Links 18/9/2021: LibreOffice 8.0 Plans and Microsoftcosm Uses WSL to Badmouth Linux http://techrights.org/2021/09/18/libreoffice-8-0-plans/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/18/libreoffice-8-0-plans/ [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/9/2021: LibreOffice 8.0 Plans and Microsoftcosm Uses WSL to Badmouth Linux | Techrights [23:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not even on Twitter? Ugh [23:34] schestowitz-TR2 nothing. [23:34] schestowitz-TR2 they're write-only [23:34] schestowitz-TR2 like me in twitter [23:34] schestowitz-TR2 passive [23:35] XRevan86 Just as they are with e-mail. [23:40] schestowitz-TR2 not even acknowledging they receive what you type [23:41] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, eventually they always solve this eventually [23:41] schestowitz-TR2 now it's 6 weeks of b0rkedness, which is a lot longer than usual [23:41] XRevan86 Better late than never. But better soon than late. [23:42] techrights-news Pavel Durov joins #apple and #google in giving #putin a blow job by censoring any potential opposition https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/09/18/the-freest-platform-on-the-web [23:43] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:44] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: they are invisible to us [23:44] schestowitz-TR2 we read news over text files [23:44] schestowitz-TR2 their site is not light [23:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: I will just have to return to going there and see what's up manually. [23:45] XRevan86 which I now do when I know something fscked up happened in Russia [23:46] schestowitz btw, gemini is scarcely adopted by Russians [23:46] schestowitz barely any Russian-speaking capsules [23:47] schestowitz I would have imagined otherwise given geek culture there [23:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: Gopher was never a thing in Russia. [23:48] XRevan86 So interest in that kind of thing is lower. [23:48] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:48] XRevan86 But people still can't forget FidoNet :) [23:48] techrights-news Funny #Animal Photos in Comedy Wildlife #Photography Awards https://www.insider.com/funny-animal-photos-comedy-wildlife-photography-awards-2021-9 #insider [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insider.com | Funny Animal Photos in Comedy Wildlife Photography Awards [23:51] techrights-news "In Silverthorne, Colo., as her herd of goats graze along a bucolic hillside, Lani Malmberg wonders how much more the land can take. In 2020, Colorado experienced the largest three wildfires in its history." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/business/wildfires-goats-prevention.html [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Why Goats Became the Unconventional Weapon Against Wildfires - The New York Times [23:55] techrights-news Those are #patents that ought not exist in the first place because they obstruct competition and harm innovation http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/15/standard-essential-patents-in-italy-a-review-of-the-existing-case-law-part-ii/ [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Standard Essential Patents in Italy: a review of the existing case law (Part II) - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:56] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:58] *alextee (~alextee@5rriqyq9db4rq.irc) has joined #techrights