●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 18, 2022 ●● ● Sep 18 [00:02] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367937/ [00:03] thighest_hubris_crills Bill Gates testing out a beta version of Windows on a laptop and it melted <- obviously youve seen the 98 demo [00:03] TR Bot Zelenskyy: We might pursue diplomatic means to take back Crimea | Ukrainska Pravda [00:03] thighest_hubris_crills with the blue screen [00:03] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367942/ [00:03] TR Bot 59 bodies exhumed in Izium, most showing signs of violent death ? Kharkiv Oblast Military Administration | Ukrainska Pravda [00:06] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, yeah actually lol [00:06] starstreak it was also funny when someone threw a pie in his face [00:06] mixling it is an important difference, WHY oil/gas business with Russia is sanctioned: because "EU trading hub" seeks 999.999% surplus margins, this is my "Theory" [00:06] mixling and who the benefitiaries were [00:07] XRevan86 Yea, there's nothing happening in the world right now, so there must be some weird reason. [00:07] MinceR no, it's sanctioned (if it's sanctioned) because your fuhrer uses the profits to fuel his genocide of ukrainians [00:07] XRevan86 And Scholz was peddling Nord Stream 2 before February 2022, I wonder why that didn't get through some lobby got to him? [00:07] MinceR (also to buy explosives to blow up europe's biggest nuclear power plant with, when the wind blows your way) [00:08] MinceR (but i'm sure that you won't get radiation poisoning if your faith is pure and strong enough) [00:08] XRevan86 MinceR: Ye are so on the nose, ye ruined my perfectly planned sarcasm %). [00:09] mixling MinceR: you rather enjoy NATO mars rockets hit your living quarter? [00:09] XRevan86 That sounds plausible. [00:10] XRevan86 And with mixling saying that, it's probably a rocket from Mars. [00:10] mixling i am no expert with NATO weaponry, ask the suppliers and customers who are involved: Ukraine, USA, and "madame president Uschi" of EU heaven of peace [00:11] MinceR mixling: afaik NATO's rockets don't use orcish guidance systems [00:11] XRevan86 mixling: I know ye mean M270A1, just made a joke. [00:13] starstreak Bill Gates: https://i.imgur.com/xDFiat1.png [00:15] MinceR https://www.darthsanddroids.net/solo/solo155.html [00:15] TR Bot Darths & Droids [00:19] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [00:19] XRevan86 MinceR: There are only two options in life: 1. either Putin gets to do what he pleases; 2. or ~~ Telegram ~~ a GMLRS is going to land on your roof. [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:21] XRevan86 MinceR: Ye or I may not see the connection and think that this is false dichotomy, but this is just because we are not as smart as aggi. [00:21] *clonak has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:23] MinceR :> [00:27] DaemonFC MinceR"except the ones who are dead" [00:28] DaemonFC But there's no sense crying over every mistake. [00:28] DaemonFC You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake. [00:32] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: I actually do moderate on room on Matrix.org. [00:32] DaemonFC I throw out anyone who starts arguing about "trannies" or "rape apologists" or anything else I don't want to hear about. [00:33] DaemonFC The room quickly goes back to people discussing things instead of being provoked into stupid arguments by people like mjg59_ . [00:33] XRevan86 CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-16-09-17 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1571273803774271488 ) [00:33] TR Bot Sitrep for September 16 Telegraph [00:33] TR Bot (en) (@CITeam_en): "September 16 sitrep: What we know of the attack on the Russian town of Valuiki; DPR commander warns of personnel outflow as Russia sends (more) conscripts to the border; Exhumations at Izyum mass graves continue, with evidence of executions emerging https://te.legra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-16-09-17"|nitter.it [00:33] XRevan86 > the Russian forces are completely abandoning the Kharkiv region. [00:33] XRevan86 And so we get the first occupational administration in exile. [00:34] DaemonFC LMAO [00:35] DaemonFC Yeah, I heard that the people who collaborated are fleeing across the border before Ukrainian officials can re-establish administrative control. [00:35] DaemonFC Good idea. [00:35] DaemonFC Backing the wrong side and having it go well for a couple of months there followed by a public hanging. :) [00:36] DaemonFC "n addition, Freuding commented on the actions of the Russians. When withdrawing from the battlefield, it is accepted practice to destroy the equipment which a retreating force is unable to take with it. The Russian army, in contrast, abandoned a huge quantity of equipment which would be sufficient to equip an entire brigade." [00:36] mixling XRevan86: some reports were, Putin may release prisoners to fight [00:36] XRevan86 DaemonFC: There was a report that not everyone with the Russian (internal) "passport" issued on Ukrainian territory could enter Russia. [00:37] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Don't know the details of that unfortunately. [00:37] mixling last time Russia did this, was Yugoslavia; a documentary showed, how this ended. [00:37] XRevan86 mixling: That's wrong, prisoners are already released to fight and there are already PoWs. [00:38] DaemonFC "Ukrainian war trophies are still being counted. During the past day, another 10 tanks and 26 armored vehicles were found. " [00:38] mixling many of those heavy tanks were probably outdated equipment [00:38] DaemonFC XRevan86: So why aren't the Russians blowing up the tanks and APCs before they go? [00:39] MinceR they probably don't care [00:39] XRevan86 mixling: https://theins.press/en/news/255089 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/16/if-you-didn-t-follow-instructions-they-shot-you [00:39] TR Bot Putin's chef Prigozhin recruits 150 inmates to Wagner PMC in one swoop [00:39] TR Bot NO TITLE [00:39] MinceR they're probably demoralized [00:39] XRevan86 DaemonFC, MinceR: It's a good valid question. [00:40] MinceR their government doesn't exactly support them, afaik [00:40] MinceR they don't get proper clothing, they don't get proper food [00:40] XRevan86 The running hypothesis is that the strict chain of command crushes initiative and the superiors didn't organise orderly retreat. [00:40] DaemonFC Yes, but they'll be ordered back eventually and then there's dozens more tanks that they'll be on the business end of. [00:40] DaemonFC So you'd think that they would just go ahead and destroy it before they leave with that thought in mind. [00:40] MinceR they're goners anyway [00:41] MinceR also, the russian government likes to use non-russian ethnicities in this war [00:41] MinceR they don't care about those people [00:41] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This was messed up just like everything else in this war. [00:41] DaemonFC It's actually worse for the Russians if they are leaving behind Soviet-era tanks and stuff. [00:41] mixling XRevan86: didn't have Russian military a capable air-force? [00:41] MinceR i'm sure they had one, some time before 1990 [00:41] DaemonFC Those are the ones that the Ukrainians are best trained on anyway because they use them. [00:41] mixling if Putin wanted to, had not this air-force taken action? [00:42] XRevan86 mixling: Good point. Read the sitrep :). [00:42] MinceR putler's underlings probably stole the money that was meant to be spent on maintaining that equipment as well [00:42] DaemonFC "The Russian Cossacks who fought as part of the BARS-15 detachment returned to Orenburg. Of the original detachment (probably 20 men), one was killed and four were wounded. Of those who returned, only three decided to extend the contract." [00:42] XRevan86 > The general noted that the Aerospace Forces of Russia allocated 550 aircraft to the entire operation which, according to NATO doctrine, should be carrying out up to 1200 sorties per day. [00:42] XRevan86 > However, in reality Russian aircraft are only carrying out up to 300 combat missions per day and only 10% of these are directed towards supporting ground troops. [00:42] XRevan86 > General Christian Freuding links this problem not only to Ukrainian air defense operations, but also to Russian problems with logistics and aircraft maintenance. [00:43] DaemonFC MinceR: Even if the Ukrainians can't ultimately use it, they can break them down for spare parts. [00:43] DaemonFC So they are still worth "something". [00:43] DaemonFC Like if I can't get a replacement part for my Buick I can go see if there's one in the junkyard I can take the part I need off of. [00:43] DaemonFC I've had a lot of cars like that. [00:44] XRevan86 MinceR: "also, the russian government likes to use non-russian ethnicities in this war" <- Not really, it's more that the more far removed a place is from the political/economical centre (Moscow and St. Petersburg), the more likely they're to end up at this war. [00:44] DaemonFC Something breaks and there's no way to fix it with a new part. [00:44] DaemonFC But there's plenty in a junkyard. [00:44] mixling i think, there isn't interest in escalating to the scale of what Russian military was capable of, with their air-force. [00:44] XRevan86 MinceR: And the pooper the easier it is to lure people in with military salaries. [00:44] mixling and a handful of fighter jets deploying payload, sufficed, to end this quickly. [00:45] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [00:45] XRevan86 mixling: I failed to parse that. [00:46] mixling XRevan86: i say, a nuclear military force such as Russia, may have ended this conflict in a few days. [00:46] mixling however, they don't [00:47] XRevan86 mixling: How charitable that Russia isn't suiciding over this. [00:48] mixling i think, it isn't supposedly missing military capabilities, which prolong this. [00:48] XRevan86 mixling: Also if Russia actually had an organised modern military, it would've won already. [00:49] XRevan86 mixling: So that should give some food for thought about whether Russia has an organised modern military. [00:49] XRevan86 MinceR: There is a telling example of that from July: https://youtu.be/hGZKD9eBoZw [00:49] TR Bot https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=hGZKD9eBoZw [00:49] TR Bot not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=hGZKD9eBoZw ) [00:49] XRevan86 "Russian state TV: Grieving parents buy new car with 'coffin money' after son was killed in Ukraine" [00:50] mixling XRevan86: what's the morale among russian military? [00:50] XRevan86 MinceR: The trick is, this news report was not shown in Moscow and St. Petersburg. [00:50] MinceR XRevan86: what about the chechens? [00:51] MinceR "what Russian military was capable of," -- probably also known as "jack shit" [00:51] XRevan86 mixling: Unprecedented amount of Refuseniks. [00:51] MinceR i wonder whether they even managed to maintain their nuclear weapons [00:51] MinceR nuclear warheads don't last forever [00:51] XRevan86 MinceR: I heard mixed reports about the Kadyrovs. [00:52] XRevan86 But mostly they got infamous for being the TikTok army force. [00:52] XRevan86 They chased the clout a lot. Haven't seen memes with them in a while though, don't know what's up with that. [00:52] mixling and i would raise another question: what's the exit strategy? [00:53] mixling even when, negotiate, some less russians going on holidays in crimea... then what? [00:53] mixling shiny happy people everywhere? [00:53] DaemonFC XRevan86But mostly they got infamous for being the TikTok army force. [00:53] MinceR :> [00:53] XRevan86 mixling: There is no exit strategy. [00:53] CrystalMath it is quite demoralizing to realize that your government cares so much about ukrainians that they try to protect ukraine's civil infrastructure, while also telling people to go kill them... [00:54] MinceR 18 015257 < mixling> and i would raise another question: what's the exit strategy? [00:54] DaemonFC I noticed that. Like, they drove around in military vehicles and then never did much of anything. [00:54] MinceR putler's? [00:54] CrystalMath Kadyrov should be president of russia [00:54] MinceR probably shooting himself in the head [00:54] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I liked the traffic light shooting one. [00:54] mixling MinceR: anyone's, including EU and whoever whish-thinked to pro-long re-labeled energy supplies could be bargained with 999.999% surplus margins [00:55] *badet0s (~badet0s@2a02:6ea0:c859:1::a01d) has joined #techrights [00:55] XRevan86 The enemy traffic lights shall not pass! [00:55] MinceR oh, i think if the west dared, they could get those fossil fuels much more cheaply [00:55] MinceR 18 015441 < XRevan86> DaemonFC: I liked the traffic light shooting one. [00:55] MinceR too much Doom Eternal? [00:55] mixling MinceR: minor mistake, EU re-labeled nuclear and gas as sustainable green whatever [00:56] MinceR mixling: what does that have to do with your fuhrer's war? [00:56] mixling as long as they got their trade-margins funneled into their pockets... it's green renewable [00:56] XRevan86 MinceR: https://youtu.be/_tHA0faUDr0 [00:56] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=_tHA0faUDr0 [00:56] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | TikTok- - Invidious [00:56] MinceR (i mean, it's the game that's full of "shoot it when it turns green") [00:56] mixling MinceR: EU depends on him [00:57] XRevan86 MinceR: haha [00:59] *Errr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 159.65 [00:59] immibis_ mixling: not a mistake, done to increase oligarch money [00:59] *Errr (~err@rcmcei2p3396g.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [01:00] XRevan86 mixling: Ye know what, I can recommend you a book that I think ye will find interesting. [01:00] XRevan86 https://theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/they-turned-us-into-savages-russian-soldier-describes-start-of-ukraine-invasion [01:00] TR Bot They turned us into savages: Russian soldier describes start of Ukraine invasion | Ukraine | The Guardian [01:01] XRevan86 It's called ZOV by Pavel Filatyev. [01:01] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [01:04] mixling meanwhile, hedonist proles celebrate octoberfest, germany, 2022 [01:05] mixling no more lock-down, no more covid [01:06] XRevan86 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1560037073784127488.html Apparently this is the best there is about ZOV in English. [01:06] TR Bot Thread by @ChrisO_wiki on Thread Reader App Thread Reader App [01:08] XRevan86 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/media/master/zov-en.txt Oh hey. [01:08] XRevan86 https://czmyt.substack.com/p/zovpdf-machine-translation-to-english [01:08] TR Bot ZOV.pdf Machine Translation to English - Czmyt's Pubs [01:08] XRevan86 mixling: There ye go. [01:11] XRevan86 Not a journalist, not a Ukrainian, first-hand experience from a Russian soldier. [01:12] MinceR which is the best translation of those? [01:12] XRevan86 And bear in mind, this is about the part of the February Mongoose Leap that went best: the invasion of Kherson. [01:12] XRevan86 MinceR: Hard to say. The last two links are the same translation. [01:13] MinceR hm [01:13] XRevan86 The Twitter thread processed the text and is not the original. [01:14] MinceR then the txt has some problems with it [01:14] MinceR the first "It" is missing, then there's an extra "For" after 33 [01:14] XRevan86 But it has illustrations, so that's a big pro. [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:21] MinceR yeah, the illustrations are nice [01:31] *techrights_guest|17 (~bb66d71b@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:33] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/17/7367921/ cc: DaemonFC, MinceR [01:33] TR Bot Occupiers are preparing retreat routes in Kherson Oblast, they have sunk 9 wagons ? General Staff | Ukrainska Pravda [01:35] *techrights_guest|17 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:38] XRevan86 At least some attempts to prepare an exit strategy are made. [01:39] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/09/culture-has-lost-the-ability-to-grasp-the-present.html [01:39] TR Bot Culture Has Lost the Ability to Grasp the Present | naked capitalism [01:41] *Errr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:42] *Errr (~err@rcmcei2p3396g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:42] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Regarding music, in the 90s we've reached the point when any sound can be synthesised, that could be why it's harder to surprise people with music. [01:44] XRevan86 "We remain trapped in the 20th century." <- Meanwhile starstreak is generating https://i.imgur.com/xDFiat1.png for lols. [01:47] XRevan86 Also there was no Putin as President in the 20th century so clearly the people of the past didn't understand true love towards one's President. [01:47] XRevan86 I pity them. [01:49] mixling XRevan86: what was the military objectives? [01:49] XRevan86 mixling: Clarify? [01:49] mixling Russian troops arrived in the cities, then what? [01:49] starstreak XRevan86, :3 [01:49] mixling Camping holidays for some month and years? [01:50] XRevan86 mixling: The objective of the Mongoose Leap was to jumpscare Ukraine, occupy it and change the regime. [01:51] mixling A regime change had been easier, if the Ukraine pipeline business was terminated, by Russia, which didn't occur. [01:52] XRevan86 mixling: It was supposed to happen within a wekk. [01:52] XRevan86 week [01:52] MinceR it's almost as if orcland needed the money for the fossil fuels [01:52] mixling Nordstream2 construction finished, that's two pipelines there. Another one in Poland. [01:52] mixling if Russia intended regime change, they had to disconnect the Ukrainian pipeline supply with russian gas. [01:52] XRevan86 We have to focus here, because the objectives of different phases of this war have been different. [01:53] mixling which Putin didn't to my knowledge. [01:53] XRevan86 They're shifting while Russia's reassessing its capabilities. [01:53] XRevan86 mixling: In what world would that have changed anything on a scale of a week? [01:53] DaemonFC I was going over the IRCv3 implementation in SeaMonkey. [01:53] MinceR the orcs are moving the goalposts in hopes of avoiding having to admit defeat [01:53] DaemonFC The patches come from the "Ambassador" fork. [01:54] mixling XRevan86: one week? less than 24hours i guess. [01:54] XRevan86 mixling: Ukrainian economy is not 100% transit. [01:55] XRevan86 If we're talking about what's happening right now, then the transit is still going because: 1. Ukraine does want the money; 2. Putin and Orban have an arrangement and so Druzhba is piping gas to Hungary. [01:57] XRevan86 I don't really remember and don't know how to double check but I think that Germany is Druzhba-less because the pipes are split in Belarus to go into different directions (per the map I shared earlier), and the pipeline that goes to Liepzig was probably just severed there in Belarus. [01:58] XRevan86 If I stumble upon information about that I'll check it out, I'm curious about how that could possibly be justified. [01:59] mixling XRevan86: time will tell. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 156.15 [01:59] mixling with this, they can't hide the truth. [01:59] mixling and i do follow german news reports daily. ● Sep 18 [02:00] mixling germany cannot prolong a winter season, without continued reliable supply of oil and gas. [02:00] XRevan86 MinceR: "it's almost as if orcland needed the money for the fossil fuels" <- Naturally, but apparently there are more important things than this income. [02:00] XRevan86 MinceR: The pipeline is absolutely a political instrument, and the revenue is sacrificed for the greater bad. [02:02] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [02:02] mixling let me say one more thing about this, if Russia decided to cut all gas supplies to anyone in EU/Germany, even then i wouldn't blame Putin for this [02:03] XRevan86 It wasn't initially, and Russia has got a lot of revenue from selling gas/petroleum for the first few months. [02:04] XRevan86 Russia already did, except Putin bought Orban's loyalty with gas. [02:05] mixling this has nothing to do with loyalty [02:05] XRevan86 It absolutely does. [02:05] mixling it's just reasonable and responsible for any president to negotiate contracts [02:06] XRevan86 mixling: Germany is trying to. [02:06] immibis_ mixling: wtf does "prolong a winter season" mean [02:06] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/us-moving-closer-letting-americans-file-taxes-online-and-free-2022-9 [02:06] TR Bot US Moving Closer to Letting Americans File Taxes Online for Free [02:06] mixling in particular with heavy industry investments, which require decades of work and stability etc... [02:06] mixling oil/gas, that's not some quick shitcoin business [02:06] DaemonFC It takes me about 5 hours to figure out our "simple" taxes, and that's with the software doing most of the forms and calculations for me and with me providing the informational forms and answering questions, most of which don't apply. [02:07] XRevan86 mixling: The math is incredibly simple: Putin wants to scare Ukraine's allies into giving up. [02:07] XRevan86 That's the only hope he has at this point. [02:07] mixling immibis_: no russian gas, and german industry won't survive another winter [02:07] immibis_ mixling: no german money, and russia as a country won't survive until summer [02:08] mixling immibis_: wrong, EU/germany won't [02:08] immibis_ and why do you suppose industry uses more gas in winter than in summer? [02:08] immibis_ industrial uses for gas surely don't care [02:08] XRevan86 Scaring with nukes doesn't work, so he's doing it by cutting gas. It hurts Russia a lot, but Putin's war demands it. [02:08] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, ever watch Event Horizon? [02:08] immibis_ mixling: and nobody will survive anything, not in capitalism, nor in dictatorship [02:08] mixling 60% of the energy is consumed by industry, 40% by households, rough estimates [02:09] thighest_hubris_crills i did [02:09] immibis_ mixling: imagine being so woke that you think it's okay to genocide a race in order to continue burning dinosaurs [02:09] mixling even if households do reduce gas/electricity consumption, they cannot compensate for industrial production requirements if gas supplies terminate [02:09] immibis_ gas supplies have terminated. [02:09] thighest_hubris_crills it wasnt really my thing, but it featured one of the actors from my favourite movies. no, not sam neill [02:09] immibis_ you don't need to write "if" [02:09] mixling currently government says private household consumption reduced, would save the plant and climate and whatnot propaganda rubbish [02:09] thighest_hubris_crills s/movies/movie/ [02:10] mixling with electricity, i had seen data 80% industry 20% households [02:10] thighest_hubris_crills james spader! lol (not him either, thats just funny) [02:10] immibis_ mixling: I take it you are shorting euros? [02:10] mixling same with this, and much electricity is produced from gas-electrification in heat-power-coupling plants operated with gas [02:10] mixling immibis_: i say euros or dollars are rubles are irelevant [02:10] thighest_hubris_crills the guy who threw himself out the airlock before being pulled back in was also in undercover brother [02:10] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, i love the young James Spader, not the more current one [02:11] starstreak he didn't age well [02:11] mixling energy, which doesn't exist, cannot be neither sold, nor consumed nor taxed nor anything [02:11] thighest_hubris_crills well we are talking about the young one anyway [02:11] immibis_ mixling: If you think Europe will collapse you could be a millionaire in your favourite currency [02:11] immibis_ ...if you're right. [02:11] thighest_hubris_crills he certainly didnt age predictably [02:11] immibis_ (otherwise you lost your life savings) [02:11] immibis_ mixling: the saying "put your money where your mouth is" exists for a reason [02:12] mixling immibis_: i haven't got no money to put anywhere [02:12] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, he was amazing in The Practice and Boston Legal. My two fav legal shows. [02:12] thighest_hubris_crills the practice was pretty good [02:12] immibis_ mixling: then you are the weakest link, goodbye [02:12] thighest_hubris_crills never watched boston legal [02:12] AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/newsom-signs-childrens-online-safety-bill-into-california-law/ [02:12] TR Bot Newsom signs childrens online safety bill into California law [02:13] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, boston legal had James Spader and William Shatner as lawyers :D [02:13] immibis_ mixling: maybe if you start being less wrong about things you can make correct bets that make money [02:13] thighest_hubris_crills how the fuck did calista flockhart end up with harrison ford [02:13] thighest_hubris_crills how the fuck did william shatner end up playing a lawyer [02:14] mixling i do not gamble immibis_ [02:14] thighest_hubris_crills /me imagines matlock doing coke and pretty much achieving the same effect [02:14] mixling yet maybe you could explain to me, how Uniper and VNG filed bancruptcy, although energy prices exploded [02:15] mixling how would such energy providers file bancruptcy if prices exploded to sell their energy? [02:15] mixling immibis_: bet on it [02:15] mixling that's not a shitcoin problem, energy which doesn't exist cannot be sold nor consumed nor taxed nor anything [02:15] immibis_ mixling: because they promised to sell it at a certain price, but they didn't get promises to buy it at a certain price [02:16] immibis_ or if they did, the promises were from russia [02:16] mixling they haven't nothing to sell [02:16] immibis_ that is an example of a bed bet wiping out your life savings. [02:16] immibis_ mixling: of course they do! They could get it hand delivered in propane cans by oompa loompas. [02:16] XRevan86 Promises from Putin's Russia are not worth much. [02:16] immibis_ nah. putin would never break a promise to not invade ukraine [02:17] immibis_ since putin would never break a promise and he promised not to invade, I can conclude he didn't invade [02:17] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, XD [02:17] mixling XRevan86: you're mistaken, that's not russian gas they sell, it's "renewable" "alternative supplier" "eu trading hub" energy [02:17] immibis_ mixling: they sell gas and the customer does not care where they get the gas [02:18] immibis_ they promised to sell gas, they did not sell gas, therefore they are bankrupt. [02:18] *immibis_ is now known as immibis [02:19] mixling so, Putin was watching this, seeing how those companies sold all those magic energy out of thin air, EU politicians argueing they don't need russian gas [02:19] mixling ok then, pipelines are expesnive to operate... close them. [02:19] immibis mixling: define need [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:20] mixling immibis: that's political arguments, evil ruskies, fossil killing the climate all this, and it's all Putin's fault of cause [02:20] immibis mixling: define need [02:20] immibis no, any crisis is fully germany's fault, reaping what it sowed [02:21] mixling particular interests in germany, of those who resold "alternative supplier" "renewable" energy with 999.999% surplus margins, in germany, not russia [02:21] XRevan86 It's not Putin's fault that Germany shut down nuclear power plants just to get dependent on Russia. [02:22] immibis mixling: your rants do not make sense, please make them make sense [02:22] mixling it's not germany's fault either, it was "Alliance90/greens", atlantic bridge minions mainly who agitated for this [02:22] XRevan86 This is done, now something should be done to rectify the situation. [02:22] immibis have you tried an ideal diode bridge? [02:22] starstreak Linucks [02:22] thighest_hubris_crills linux surface [02:23] mixling simple: remove constitutional enemies from government, in germany, first and foremost "Alliance90/greens" and any "atlantic bridge" affiliates [02:23] XRevan86 immibis: Ironically, today mixling makes more sense than on his bad days. [02:23] thighest_hubris_crills a tux surface [02:23] mixling this too, should end war quickly, bet on it, and this won't happen XRevan86 [02:23] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: Pretty much all the Facebook ads I see now are advertising buckets of end of the world food. [02:23] mixling because guess whose pockets are filled with shitcoins by this? [02:23] starstreak thighest_hubris_crills, attack surface [02:23] immibis the previous three sentences made especially little sense [02:23] immibis is it now a bad day? [02:23] starstreak DaemonFC, thats because FB thinks you're crazy [02:24] DaemonFC They're wrong, of course. [02:24] starstreak lol ok [02:24] DaemonFC A person who cuts their penis off and sets themselves on fire is crazy. [02:24] DaemonFC mjg59_ attributes their suicide to Kiwi Farms. [02:25] immibis oh great, DaemonFC is a Nazi now... [02:25] starstreak immibis, yeah he is [02:25] starstreak immibis, just blocked him AGAIN lol [02:25] immibis the world's only economically-left Nazi [02:25] XRevan86 immibis: He's saying that if the German government is replaced with someone like Orban, then Putin would have no resistance in Ukraine and he'd quickly conquer and end the war with victory. [02:25] starstreak immibis, hes a republican now [02:25] immibis XRevan86: well that's obviously correct [02:25] XRevan86 immibis: Not exactly. [02:25] immibis or at least partially [02:26] immibis it would have to be Germany and Poland and Lithuania and so on. [02:26] XRevan86 Ukrainians are a stubborn bunch. [02:26] immibis they could even be convinced to ally with Russia in exchange for gas [02:27] XRevan86 Odds are such action would turn the war into a positional war for many years. [02:27] mixling XRevan86: this is _not_ what i am saying [02:27] mixling XRevan86: i am saying there is benefitiaries, you had not know existed [02:28] mixling and their methods and lies [02:28] XRevan86 mixling: Okay, then your words are even less coherent than I thought. [02:28] mixling as the root cause of evil of all this [02:28] immibis mixling: for example, Republicans benefit from high gas prices [02:28] XRevan86 mixling: Are they in the room with us right now? [02:29] DaemonFC I didn't say kill the men who cut their penis off. [02:29] mixling immibis: it is _not_ gas prices, those didn't change, the contracts with russia were long-term ones [02:29] DaemonFC I said I don't agree that this changes one's gender. [02:29] DaemonFC And that setting oneself on fire says a lot about their mental health. [02:29] mixling the "EU trading hub" prices, where "alternative suppliers" sold russian gas relabeled as "renewable" [02:29] XRevan86 mixling: No one gives a shit about those contracts when Russia doesn't actually deliver. [02:30] mixling XRevan86: russia did deliver, according to contracts, it was EU show sanctioned those. [02:30] immibis mixling: German companies have no choice except to buy gas at other market prices or to go bankrupt [02:31] mixling it is "Alliance90/Greens" who deny Nordstream 2 operation [02:31] immibis mixling: Isn't it odd how you rant about the energy not existing and then when you're wrong, suddenly you say it does exist? [02:31] XRevan86 Gazprom has long-term contracts, and the Budapest memorandum forbids Russia from claiming territory of Ukraine. [02:31] mixling immibis: if there isn't any gas, they cannot buy nor sell any [02:31] XRevan86 So clearly nothing wrong can possibly be happening, there are contracts. [02:31] immibis mixling: not from russia [02:31] immibis mixling: You literally just said they could get it from russia [02:32] immibis DaemonFC: what is gender? [02:32] mixling immibis: why then, if those pipelines are closed, do various other "alternative" suppliers disappear all of the sudden? [02:32] mixling what did those "alternative" suppliers sell? [02:32] XRevan86 mixling: "russia did deliver, according to contracts" <- There's no war according to contracts. [02:32] immibis DaemonFC: can severe harassment such as real-life stalking and death threats affect someone's mental health? [02:32] mixling or buy? [02:32] immibis mixling: what suppliers? [02:33] mixling immibis: Uniper and VNG filed bancruptcy while they could sell their energy at record prices [02:33] XRevan86 mixling: The EU did not sanction those. [02:33] DaemonFC immibisDaemonFC: what is gender? [02:33] mixling that's only two of them, and there's more details to this, "renewable" energy, that's their favorite one to re-label and cheat [02:33] DaemonFC An immutable trait. [02:33] XRevan86 immibis: Russia says "lift the sanctions or no gas for you", it means the sanctions *in general*. [02:34] immibis mixling: what energy? [02:34] DaemonFC immibisDaemonFC: can severe harassment such as real-life stalking and death threats affect someone's mental health? [02:34] DaemonFC Sure, but they haven't proved that was actually happening. [02:34] immibis mixling: How many gas drills do Uniper and VNG operate? [02:34] mixling immibis: there isn't none. exactly. [02:34] immibis DaemonFC: other than the people doing the harassment saying they were doing it? [02:34] immibis DaemonFC: " [Gender is] an immutable trait." <- oh that's the definition? So my gender is 180cm? [02:35] XRevan86 mixling: Russia chooses not to deliver. [02:35] DaemonFC Gender cannot be changed by cutting off your dick and taking horse estrogen. [02:35] XRevan86 Those contracts mean jack shit. [02:35] DaemonFC Sorry, Charlie. [02:36] immibis DaemonFC: Is my gender 180cm? [02:36] DaemonFC It turns a man into a really bizarre Eunuch. [02:36] immibis DaemonFC: or maybe my gender is light skin? That's an immutable trait. [02:37] immibis gender is defined as "an immutable trait", skin colour is an immutable trait, therefore skin colour is a gender. Right? [02:37] DaemonFC I'm a man. There's no changing it. [02:37] DaemonFC Refusal to accept reality and hating oneself instead leads to poor mental health. [02:38] DaemonFC Which contributes to becoming suicidal. [02:38] DaemonFC That's why "Trans People" have like a 60% higher rate of suicide. [02:38] XRevan86 immibis: Not to agree with DaemonFC, but that's like saying that if "const int a = 0, b = 1;", then a and b are the same. [02:38] thighest_hubris_crills if skin colour is immutable, tanning beds will never work [02:38] DaemonFC It's an extreme form of self-rejection. [02:38] immibis XRevan86: if your *definition* of a is "a constant integer" then yes, b is a [02:39] immibis DaemonFC: What is gender? [02:39] XRevan86 immibis: Um, they're clearly two separate constants. [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[02:40] immibis XRevan86: And "an immutable trait" clearly isn't the definition of "gender" [02:41] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-170922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-170922.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 17, 2022 [02:41] DaemonFC Err, Trans Women I meant to say. [02:41] immibis DaemonFC: Gender is a combination of which things? [02:41] XRevan86 immibis: Ah, I see. [02:41] DaemonFC You can cut off a man's dick, you can put lipstick on him. [02:41] DaemonFC But he'll never get pregnant. [02:42] DaemonFC You can do some sort of expensive and bizarre invasive surgery to make something that resembles a vagina. 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[02:44] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:45] XRevan86 immibis: "Klinefelter syndrome right?" <- I think it's called Swyer syndrome. [02:46] XRevan86 There's also the reversed (XX men) one: de la Chapelle syndrome. [02:46] DaemonFC I already told Roy how I felt about "Trans" people the other day when he even mentioned that a lot of gay men don't like having them around and are not comfortable around them. [02:47] DaemonFC He wasn't wrong. [02:47] DaemonFC It's like not _as_ bad as having NAMBLA try to crash you. [02:47] XRevan86 DaemonFC: So what's your opinion on Swyer syndrome? [02:47] DaemonFC And that's about the nicest thing I can say about them. [02:47] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis [02:47] TR Bot XY gonadal dysgenesis - Wikipedia [02:47] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Is a person with it a man or a woman? [02:48] immibis DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions. [02:48] immibis [[[DaemonFC is banned from this channel due to rambling. Hang up the phone and try again later.]]] [02:49] XRevan86 https://healthjade.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Swyer-syndrome.jpg [02:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://healthjade.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Swyer-syndrome.jpg ) [02:49] XRevan86 There's an example of such man. [02:49] immibis clownflare [02:50] XRevan86 Not hard to look up. [02:50] DaemonFC So they agree that's a disease right? [02:50] DaemonFC Just asking. [02:51] XRevan86 It's not even diagnosed in many cases. [02:52] XRevan86 So ye can imagine in how much dis-ease these people are. [02:52] DaemonFC Outside of some freak of nature disease..... [02:52] immibis DaemonFC: What is gender? [02:54] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That's a corner case, but it showcases just how diverse sexuality can get, even to a point where XY for a woman is not challenged by anyone. [02:54] XRevan86 No surgeries, nothing, straight from birth. [02:56] XRevan86 DaemonFC: So maybe, just maybe, ye are oversimplifying the concept with your layman understanding of sexuality, and annoying people who have a different experience. [02:56] DaemonFC Other than some sort of disease, there are two genders. [02:57] immibis DaemonFC: What is gender? [02:57] immibis You said there are two of them. But what is it? [02:57] DaemonFC Male or Female. [02:57] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "Outside of some freak of nature disease....." <- Could ye even tell though? That could be anyone (who's infertile). [02:58] DaemonFC Of course, if you listen to mjg59_ and his type, Male is worse because if you're a White Male, you're already 9/10ths of the way towards being a sex predator. Unless you work for Microsoft, and then he'll leave you alone. [02:58] immibis DaemonFC: What is a gender? How do I know if something is a gender? [02:58] DaemonFC XRevan86DaemonFC: "Outside of some freak of nature disease....." <- Could ye even tell though? That could be anyone (who's infertile). [02:58] XRevan86 immibis: Gender is masculine, feminine and neutral (: [02:58] DaemonFC A real woman who is infertile is still a real woman. She either has a disease, has gotten sterilized, or has gone through menopause. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 178.91 [02:59] DaemonFC A man who gets his dick cut off and then self-immolates is mentally ill. [02:59] immibis XRevan86: You are overloading DaemonFC's very limited brainpower by saying anything more complex than a short question [02:59] immibis DaemonFC: Stop rambling and answer the questions. [02:59] DaemonFC immibisDaemonFC: What is a gender? How do I know if something is a gender? [02:59] XRevan86 DaemonFC: How do ye tell a woman scientifically? ● Sep 18 [03:00] DaemonFC You almost always can tell by looking. It's not "scientific" perhaps. [03:00] DaemonFC There are some men who can be very convincing in drag. [03:00] DaemonFC But most of them can't. [03:00] mixling gender is defined a "social construct", not biological [03:00] mixling as [03:00] starstreak im glad i blocked him again [03:00] DaemonFC 95% of the time, a "Trans" person will look absolutely nothing like the gender they are masquerading as. [03:00] immibis DaemonFC: I can look at skin colour and tell that skin colour isn't a gender? How do I know? [03:01] DaemonFC Not even close, 95% of the time. [03:01] immibis Is the number 5 a gender? [03:01] DaemonFC So again, not scientific, but a good general rule. [03:01] mixling if you follow this definition or not, that's another question [03:01] XRevan86 DaemonFC: What if your rule is different from another person's rule? [03:01] DaemonFC If I pretended to be a woman it wouldn't be a very good act. [03:02] DaemonFC You'd see right away that I was 255 pounds and 6 foot 4 inches tall. [03:02] DaemonFC There's not many women that just tower over you. [03:02] DaemonFC Also, my voice. [03:02] DaemonFC It just would not happen. I would not be fooling anyone. [03:02] DaemonFC But there's some liberals who would be all like "That's a woman!". [03:02] DaemonFC "She's very brave!" [03:03] immibis XRevan86: see, DaemonFC is unable to understand how to stop rambling and answer questions. [03:03] DaemonFC It's like that. [03:04] immibis probably doesn't even understand what I just said. [03:04] DaemonFC Also, if I cut my dick off, I'd just be a Eunuch, not a woman. [03:04] immibis poor thing [03:04] DaemonFC So that's not it either. [03:04] immibis where's the IRC extension that allows you to slap someone in a face if they go on a stupid rant for 3 minutes? [03:04] XRevan86 DaemonFC: I am curious, are ye aware of such a thing as a clitoris? [03:04] DaemonFC My body would never produce the same hormones as a woman, even without testicles. [03:04] DaemonFC So I'd have to take horse hormones. [03:05] DaemonFC Then my voice wouldn't be right. It would just be WEIRD. [03:05] DaemonFC Like Keith's. [03:05] DaemonFC In 1994, Keith came by to drop off some birthday presents for my cousins. Dressed as a woman. [03:06] DaemonFC I opened the door and I was like "WTF IS THIS SHIT!!!?" at like 10, I mean, there's no explaining this to a 10 year old who is even kind of in their right mind, which is why the liberals want to brainwash kids with drag queens at the library. [03:07] XRevan86 immibis: I think he skipped class on anthropology. [03:07] AdmFubar https://eyeondesign.aiga.org/we-spoke-with-the-last-person-standing-in-the-floppy-disk-business/ [03:07] TR Bot We Spoke With the Last Person Standing in the Floppy Disk Business Eye on Design [03:07] DaemonFC And I'm sure "WTF IS THIS SHIT!?!?" was all over my face, like "Whoa!". "I don't know what I'm looking at, but this is bad. Real bad. I've seen some stuff man. I've seen some shit!". [03:07] mixling form a biological perspective, in animal kingdom, it is more often males who are more colorful and expressive with their behaviour [03:07] mixling to impress females, to mate with [03:07] mixling *from [03:07] DaemonFC So I go find my mom and I'm like "Mom! Uncle Keith's here......and he's dressed like a woman.". [03:07] immibis XRevan86: he skipped the ability to read and write coherently [03:08] DaemonFC XRevan86immibis: I think he skipped class on anthropology. [03:08] DaemonFC I don't think I care. [03:08] mixling almost always, if sexual dimorphism includes attractive coloration, it's males who got them, in nature [03:08] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Read on female biology. [03:09] immibis DaemonFC: You don't know what gender is. [03:09] DaemonFC If I was interested in female biology, I probably wouldn't be gay. [03:09] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Women also have a "dick", it's just very small. [03:09] mixling females, mostly signal their reproductive cycle, without excessive coloration or behaviour [03:10] mixling with females it's mostly health only which attracts [03:10] XRevan86 So cutting one's "dick" off is not proper wording. [03:10] mixling with males it's coloration, excessive behaviour and whatnot [03:10] mixling besides health and strength [03:10] DaemonFC A man who is in a normal state of mental health wants to keep his dick and usually wishes that there was a way to make it bigger than it is. [03:10] DaemonFC A man who wants to cut it off is mentally ill. [03:10] XRevan86 DaemonFC: So does that mean ye are not interested in women in the most literal sense? [03:10] DaemonFC Most people with a dick will protect that before they protect any other body part. It's like, built-in programming. [03:11] DaemonFC You protect your nuts before anything else. [03:11] XRevan86 That's the most fragile part of the body [03:11] DaemonFC It transcends politics, nationality. However you say it in Russian, if I throw a baseball and you think it's going to hit you and it's too late to catch it, you probably protect your balls. [03:12] mixling insofar, cosmetics and excess coloration, among human females, is a gendered social habit, it's not natural when they're doing it [03:12] XRevan86 mixling: Every animal is different. [03:12] mixling in a biological sense, a drag queen, is the natural state of male behaviour [03:12] DaemonFC mixlingin a biological sense, a drag queen, is the natural state of male behaviour [03:12] mixling to attract females however, not males [03:12] XRevan86 There's no umbrella that explains sexual behaviour of every creature on this planet. [03:13] DaemonFC Hey, I'm all for some males dressing up, maybe, as a sex kink. But it's not something to parade around in front of children. [03:13] immibis DaemonFC: Men are attracted to women. [03:13] DaemonFC Or in public for that matter. [03:13] XRevan86 immibis: Hm, then maybe DaemonFC is a woman. [03:13] immibis DaemonFC: Men are attracted to women or they have a mental illness - in your words. [03:13] DaemonFC I didn't say that. [03:14] DaemonFC It's a mental illness to not want to remain intact. [03:14] DaemonFC :) [03:14] XRevan86 A freak of nature kind of a woman but there's nothing wrong with that. [03:14] immibis DaemonFC: It's a mental illness to not want to fuck the opposite sex. [03:14] DaemonFC Be happy with what you are. You're not going to change it. [03:14] DaemonFC Being gay didn't require me to go have cosmetic surgery. [03:15] immibis DaemonFC: It does require you to perform mentally ill sick acts. [03:15] immibis DaemonFC: Putting your dick in a man's butt is mental illness. [03:15] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Ye are probably using your body parts not as they are biologically intended, no? [03:15] DaemonFC XRevan86DaemonFC: Ye are probably using your body parts not as they are biologically intended, no? [03:15] DaemonFC Whenever I can. [03:15] immibis DaemonFC: A man's butt will never be able to get pregnant. [03:15] DaemonFC immibisDaemonFC: A man's butt will never be able to get pregnant. [03:15] DaemonFC That's the best part. [03:16] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Is your anus a vagina? [03:16] DaemonFC God knows how many bastards I'd have with how many people by now. [03:16] DaemonFC Ugh. [03:16] immibis DaemonFC: If I pretended my butt could make babies it wouldn't be a very good act. [03:16] immibis DaemonFC: 95% of the time, a "anus" will look absolutely nothing like the vagina it is masquerading as. [03:16] immibis In very nearly every case where you look at a gay couple, you can tell that they're actually not a couple. [03:16] DaemonFC I know that. [03:17] immibis A real couple can normally get pregnant unless there's something physically very wrong with them or they've gone through menopause or had a tubal ligation. [03:17] DaemonFC The anus part, that is. [03:17] DaemonFC immibisA real couple can normally get pregnant unless there's something physically very wrong with them or they've gone through menopause or had a tubal ligation. [03:17] DaemonFC Human pair bonding by itself doesn't have to have anything to do with wanting children. [03:17] immibis Sex is between a man and a woman. [03:17] DaemonFC Many straight people don't want them and will go to any length to avoid it, including murder (abortion) if they screw up. [03:18] XRevan86 DaemonFC: The Constitution of Russia disagrees. [03:18] DaemonFC The Constitution of Orcland is irrelevant. [03:18] immibis Sex cannot be made by putting your dick in a butt and calling yourself a couple. [03:18] immibis Refusal to accept reality and hating oneself instead leads to poor mental health. [03:18] immibis It's an extreme form of self-rejection. [03:18] immibis Gay couples never have children. [03:18] DaemonFC XRevan86: I doubt Russia will annex Illinois. [03:19] XRevan86 immibis: Or maybe it's masturbation with another person's butt. [03:19] DaemonFC If they managed to get here I'd kill as many as I could before I let them take over my country. [03:19] immibis A man who pretends their man friend is a fuckable woman is crazy. [03:19] DaemonFC I can only imagine how the Ukrainians feel. [03:19] immibis DaemonFC: Acknowledge your mental illness [03:19] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Exactly like that. [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:20] DaemonFC I think that "Trans" people are mentally ill, but I don't see why people would want to harass them about it. [03:20] immibis DaemonFC: "Gay" people are mentally ill [03:21] DaemonFC Picking on mentally ill people is hitting "below the belt". [03:21] XRevan86 immibis: If Kiwi Farms were to dox and troll DaemonFC a further right straight version of him would say "damn right". [03:21] immibis XRevan86: indeed [03:21] DaemonFC I doubt they would. [03:21] immibis DaemonFC: Why? You're mentally ill [03:22] DaemonFC I actually keep throwing out a guy from my Matrix room who keeps coming back under different accounts and posting anti-Trans and anti-Semitic memes. [03:22] DaemonFC It's really annoying. [03:22] DaemonFC A Nazi would say "find all of the Trans people and dig them out of their homes and shoot them", and I definitely don't support this. [03:23] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Also, it's not just Russia's Constitution, it's also Poland's. [03:23] DaemonFC Or anything like that. [03:23] DaemonFC I don't even agree with forcing them to go see a psychiatrist. [03:23] DaemonFC I don't think that many people should be forced to see a psychiatrist though, to be honest. [03:24] DaemonFC Maybe people who are dangerously psychotic. [03:24] immibis DaemonFC: Your sexual deviance is dangerously psychotic. Keep it away from children. [03:25] DaemonFC Like, "This guy could boil over and kill people.". The state curiously failed to bring Crimo III in front of a psychiatrist even though it expelled him from school for threatening to murder his classmates, and found a kill book complete with red ink for blood. [03:25] DaemonFC So if they're not even going to make him see a psychiatrist, why would they force anyone else to? [03:25] XRevan86 immibis: Especially gay men kissing. [03:26] XRevan86 A lot of traditionalists will explain that this is the worst thing in the world and children should be shielded from that. [03:26] DaemonFC I'm fairly certain that in most of Russia, Trans people would be in risk of being beaten to death. [03:26] DaemonFC And the cops wouldn't even care. [03:27] XRevan86 I know some. Still alive. [03:27] DaemonFC I'm amazed that such a backwards place even is a country. [03:27] DaemonFC Having a lot of gas and oil turns petty thugs into world powers. [03:28] XRevan86 The homophobia is increasing though as the propaganda keeps painting LGBT as Europe's attempt to destroy Russia, a foreign influence and an external enemy. [03:29] mixling XRevan86: i do follow the the typical feminist gaga propaganda here, who hijacks the "gender" definition from another perspective [03:29] XRevan86 Homophobia is a tool of manipulation. [03:29] mixling and yes, this flavor of "gender" equality is harmful to any society where it flourishes [03:29] mixling i should have put "equality" into quotes too [03:32] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 132850 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42630 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 14 days ago [03:32] mixling although i am not homosexual, i praise every day i must not tolerate this type of "feminism" in my household [03:32] XRevan86 DaemonFC: This tool is used not just in Russia. Hungary "protects traditional values" as well. [03:33] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 42 GB TotalOut: 11 GB [03:33] XRevan86 And I don't know if Orban actually gives a shit or if that's a populist stunt as well. [03:33] XRevan86 mixling: Don't know what that means. [03:34] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:34] mixling with "gender" defined as "social construct", the feminist position undermines _all_ other _necessary_ social contract [03:34] mixling such as, _real_ higher education pays better than none thereof, that's absent in feminist gaga wonderland [03:35] XRevan86 Is that the Slippery Slope fallacy? [03:35] mixling higher education and hard work to achieve it, that's worth nothing anymore [03:35] XRevan86 Haven't seen that in use for a while. [03:36] mixling however, from the feminist position, the entire "gender" debate is a completely different one [03:36] mixling to what DaemonFC seems concerned with [03:37] mixling another hint: "women's rights", thats propaganda bullshit [03:37] mixling it is, only "human rights" [03:37] mixling whatever the "feminist" gaga propaganda boils up, such as women weren't educated in afghanistan, one example, many boys aren't either [03:38] mixling in the "feminist" gaga wonderland, those afghan boys don't exist [03:38] mixling just an example [03:38] DaemonFC Like I said, all men are criminals according to the left. [03:38] DaemonFC If nothing else, of thoughtcrime. [03:38] XRevan86 There's no "blackface", it is only "othercolourface". [03:41] XRevan86 Everything specific is propaganda, only the general terms are true. [03:41] AdmFubar https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-voice-epic-apple.html [03:41] TR Bot US gets a voice in Epic battle with Apple [03:41] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [03:42] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@284476bwssjiq.irc) has joined #techrights [03:42] XRevan86 Another hint: "child labour" is propaganda bullshit. It is only "labour for everyone". [03:43] mixling XRevan86: just listen to the feminist gender gaga, with them it's only poor little girls [03:45] XRevan86 immibis: I hope no one takes out of context what we wrote today mocking bigoted arguments. [03:47] mixling i got a proposal for "madame president ursula", to resell geneder-equal gas at the "european trading hub" [03:48] mixling irony with this, it's men's work, who build pipelines and refineries, and there won't be no supply no more for their "social ecological justic" and "gender equality" [03:48] mixling "we are 50%, we want 50%"... guess how much 50% of nothing is? [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 177.68 ● Sep 18 [04:16] DaemonFC Is Pale Moon an actual browser or a rotting Firefox fork? [04:19] mixling it's re-labeled spyware made in usa. [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:23] AdmFubar Star light, star bright, [04:23] AdmFubar First starlink I connect to tonight, [04:23] AdmFubar I wish I may, I wish I might, [04:23] AdmFubar Have this wish of low latency, I wish tonight. 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With Linux, one need to actually take over a system somehow https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/09/14/you-never-walk-alone-sidewalk-backdoor-linux-variant/ [07:49] TR Bot never walk alone: The SideWalk backdoor gets a Linux variant | WeLiveSecurity [07:57] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:57] TR News (NEW): Introducing master_me, a mastering plugin for live broadcasting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Introducing_master_me_a_mastering_plugin_for_live_broadcasting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Introducing_master_me_a_mastering_plugin_for_live_broadcasting.gmi [07:57] TR Bot Tux Machines Introducing master_me, a mastering plugin for live broadcasting [07:58] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.gmi [07:58] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [07:58] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [07:59] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 158.46 ● Sep 18 [08:01] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@284476bwssjiq.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) 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[08:53] TR News "We first wrote about Luxonis DepthAI module for Raspberry Pi based on the Intel Myriad X AI accelerator in 2019" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/18/luxonis-oak-d-series-2-usb-and-poe-cameras-integrate-3d-depth-and-ai-for-robotics-applications/ [08:53] TR Bot Luxonis OAK-D series 2 USB and PoE cameras integrate 3D depth and AI for robotics applications - CNX Software [08:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:54] TR News "Maybe youre sleeping poorly and want to get up in the middle of the night to read in the living room. Instead of shouting at Google or Siri to turn on the lamp, youd rather quietly click a button." Listening devices are NOT substitutes https://staceyoniot.com/what-we-can-learn-about-buttons-from-the-hue-tap-dial-switch/ [08:54] TR Bot What we can learn about buttons from the Hue Tap Dial switch - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [08:54] *l0de has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:54] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [08:55] TR News Mass surveillance devices with you as their operator and feet. Informant for Pentagon. https://staceyoniot.com/why-smart-glasses-are-on-the-cusp-of-being-a-gamechanger/ [08:55] TR Bot Why smart glasses are on the cusp of being a gamechanger - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [08:56] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [08:58] *l0de (sid31830@ilkley.irccloud.com) has joined #techrights [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 84.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.50 ● Sep 18 [09:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [09:05] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [09:06] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [09:07] TR News How we monitor the temperature of our machine rooms https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/MachineRoomTempMonitoring [09:07] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/MachineRoomTempMonitoring [09:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [09:08] TR News How feedback helps you become a better speaker - Gregory Hammond https://gregoryhammond.ca/blog/how-feedback-helps-you-become-a-better-speaker/ Source: Gregory Hammond | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gregoryhammond.ca/blog/how-feedback-helps-you-become-a-better-speaker/ [09:08] TR Bot How feedback helps you become a better speaker - Gregory Hammond [09:08] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights [09:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:24] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [09:25] TR News Migrating my Jekyll website to Codeberg Pages https://afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/ Source: Andre Franca | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/ [09:25] TR Bot reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/migrating-my-jekyll-website-to-codeberg-pages/ ) [09:26] TR News Disconnecting is becoming increasingly difficult https://afhub.dev/disconnecting-is-becoming-increasingly-difficult/ [09:26] TR Bot reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/disconnecting-is-becoming-increasingly-difficult/ ) [09:27] *techuser (~techuser@cxkaa3wjkjdy8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [09:29] TR News More surveillance. More things to push back against. https://staceyoniot.com/a-level-set-on-matter-and-its-future/ [09:29] TR Bot A level set on Matter and its future - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [09:29] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:29] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:29] *Noisytoot_ (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [09:29] TR News C's malloc() and free() APIs are reasonable APIs for C https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/CMallocFreeDecentAPI [09:29] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/CMallocFreeDecentAPI [09:33] TR News Clown computing https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/13/u-haul-data-breach/ [09:33] TR Bot U-Haul reports data breach, customers' info exposed - Help Net Security [09:34] TR News When your NAS is too "smart" https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/12/cve-2022-27593/ [09:34] TR Bot Thousands of QNAP NAS devices hit by DeadBolt ransomware (CVE-2022-27593) - Help Net Security [09:35] TR News "This is the eight time this year that Apple fixes a zero-day vulnerability in the operating systems powering their Macs and iPhones." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/13/cve-2022-32917/ [09:35] TR Bot Apple fixes actively exploited zero-day in macOS, iOS (CVE-2022-32917) - Help Net Security [09:37] TR News This is primarily a Microsoft Windows problem https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/18/week-in-review-uber-hacked-qnap-nas-devices-under-attack-5-kali-linux-books-to-read-this-year/ [09:37] TR Bot Week in review: Uber hacked, QNAP NAS devices under attack, 5 Kali Linux books to read this year - Help Net Security [09:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:38] TR News "Lets start with a summary of functionality, and then enumerate some simple techniques to detect and evade userland rootkits" https://gru.gq/2022/09/17/userland-rootkits-are-lame/ | Source: TheGrugq [09:38] TR Bot Userland Rootkits are Lame [09:39] TR News "Your life is generally easier if the external machine E is not directly reachable from the Internet" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/IPTunnelsAndRouting | Source: uni Toronto [09:39] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/IPTunnelsAndRouting [09:39] TR News "But that doesnt explain why dots at the end are useful or important" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/09/12/why-do-domain-names-end-with-a-dot-/ | Source: Julia Evans [09:39] TR Bot Why do domain names sometimes end with a dot? [09:40] TR News "If youre not familiar, ETags are HTTP response headers that are basically used to identify a specific version of a resource." https://austingil.com/apache-gzip-etags-edge-compute/ | Source: Austin Gil [09:40] TR Bot Fixing Obscure Bugs: Apache, GZip, ETags, & Edge Compute [09:40] TR News "Shortly after I started HTMHell a similar thing happened." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/button-baader/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic [09:40] TR Bot Buttons and the BaaderMeinhof phenomenon - Manuel Matuzovi [09:41] TR News "Last week I started playing Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe. It's a game from 1994 that still receives updates, mods, music, maps..." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-17-another-oldie-but-goldie-openttd.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal [09:41] TR Bot Another Oldie but Goldie: OpenTTD - Bjrn Wrmedal [09:44] TR News "But what are the details? What is the background? What hardware inspired the development of that MS-DOS precursor" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/quick-and-dirty-the-story-of-86-dos | Source: Bryan Lunduke [09:44] TR Bot Quick and Dirty: The story of 86-DOS & MS-DOS [09:45] TR News "I really wanted the name of this article does not sound dramatically but I was not able to invent any other title" https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/09/14/freebsd-cope-with-wifi-fuckup/ | Source: Vermaden [09:45] TR Bot FreeBSD Cope with WiFi Fuckup | [09:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] TR News "Were pleased to announce that as of today Arduino IDE 2.0 has moved to stable and is available for download." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/14/its-here-please-welcome-arduino-ide-2-0/ | Source: Arduino [09:46] TR Bot Its here: please welcome Arduino IDE 2.0 | Arduino Blog [09:46] TR News "the concept of smart storage" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/13/transform-the-way-you-organize-your-home-with-arduino/ | Source: Arduino [09:46] TR Bot Transform the way you organize your home with Arduino | Arduino Blog Smart storage [09:46] TR News "a CLOWN-centric automation to open the garage." https://staceyoniot.com/adding-smarts-to-a-garage-door-isnt-always-ideal/ | Source: Stacey on IoT [09:46] TR Bot Adding smarts to a garage door isn't always ideal - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [09:47] TR News "As the name implies, this is a xylophone that plays itself" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/15/auto-xylophone-features-hand-wound-solenoids/ | Source: Arduino [09:47] TR Bot Auto Xylophone features hand-wound solenoids | Arduino Blog [09:48] TR News "The question at the time was whether the 7600 actually had ROM in it" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/09/confirmed-mos-76007601-pong-chip-is.html | Source: Old VCR [09:48] TR Bot Old Vintage Computing Research: Confirmed! the MOS 7600/7601 Pong chip is a true microcontroller [09:49] TR News "Kids are cruel, we all know that, and the smallest thing can hold a lot of weight with them." https://kevquirk.com/why-dont-we-have-a-smartphone-for-teenagers/ | Source: Kev Quirk [09:49] TR Bot Why Don't We Have a Smartphone for Teenagers? - Kev Quirk [09:51] TR News "What would be some interesting or useful verbs to add to HTTP's vocabulary?" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/some-new-http-verbs/ | Source: Terence Eden [09:51] TR Bot Some new HTTP verbs Terence Edens Blog [09:52] TR News "The short list is that I (still) use Foxy Gestures, uBlock Origin, uMatrix (which is still not quite dead), Cookie AutoDelete" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/Firefox104AddonsUnchanged | Source: uni Toronto [09:52] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/Firefox104AddonsUnchanged [09:54] TR News "Experts from different parts of the country, including Manoj Kumar Diwakar from Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi" https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/patiala/workshop-on-open-source-software-begins-432437 | Source: The Tribune IN [09:54] TR Bot Workshop on open source software begins at Punjabi University : The Tribune India [09:54] TR News "We are excited to announce our team will be traveling to Amsterdam for The Things Conference on September 22nd-23rd" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/16/the-things-conference-2022-catch-up-with-us-and-all-things-lorawan/ | Source: Arduino [09:54] TR Bot The Things Conference 2022: catch up with us and all things LoRaWAN | Arduino Blog [09:55] TR News "we often see the odd company or organization trying to forward an unorthodox definition of the open source." https://drewdevault.com/2022/09/16/Open-source-matters.html | Source: Drew DeVault [09:55] TR Bot The phrase "open source" (still) matters [09:56] TR News "The third use is what some people proposed as the solution to how malloc() and free() affect C APIs in the case of gethostbyname()" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/CFreeGivesReturnFreedom | Source: uni Toronto [09:56] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/CFreeGivesReturnFreedom [09:57] TR News "This left us with one clear path: trying to patch over the `ring` FFI code with pure Rust versions." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6521 | Source: Bunnie Huang [09:57] TR Bot Fully Oxidizing `ring`: Creating a Pure Rust TLS Stack Based on `rustls` + `ring` bunnie's blog [09:58] TR News "Scala CLI, which is newer, does more, and can embed Ammonite;" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/13/scripting-with-scala/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu [09:58] TR Bot Scripting with Scala - Alexandru Nedelcu [09:58] TR News "he Tornado.cash team saved its users funds by exploiting the vulnerability to drain the funds from the mixer" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/09/15/it-pays-to-be-circomspect/ | Source: Trail Of Bits [09:58] TR Bot It pays to be Circomspect | Trail of Bits Blog [09:58] TR News "This metaphor for building software as a form of translation really strikes a cord with me." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/building-software-as-translation/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [09:58] TR Bot Building Software Together as a Type of Translation - Jim Nielsens Blog [09:59] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Sep 18 [10:01] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:02] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [10:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights [10:05] TR News "Now, this of course has no where near the functionality build into the h-m-m tool by Nader K. Rad" https://unixsheikh.com/tutorials/poor-mans-mind-mapping-tool-with-just-the-terminal.html | Source: Unix Sheikh [10:05] TR Bot Poor mans mind mapping tool with just the terminal [10:05] TR News "Ive been using Zsh on-and-off for a very long time (15+ years), but I still occasionally learn something new about it." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/15/reload-zsh-configuration/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [10:05] TR Bot Reload Zsh Configuration - (think) [10:06] TR News "Basically, depending on its argument take does one of 3 things: [...]" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/16/oh-my-zsh-fun-with-take/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov [10:06] TR Bot Oh My Zsh: Fun with Take - (think) [10:06] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/irc-log-170922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/irc-log-170922/ [10:06] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 17, 2022 | Techrights [10:07] TR News "Anything that is in the world when youre born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/have-i-reached-the-douglas-adams-inflection-point-or-is-modern-tech-just-a-bit-rubbish/ | Source: Terence Eden [10:07] TR Bot Have I reached the Douglas Adams Inflection point (or is modern tech just a bit rubbish)? Terence Edens Blog [10:07] TR News "This sounds pretty abstract, so let us start with a concrete example, the superlens." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/the-new-meta-materials-for-superlenses.html | Source: Sabine Hossenfelder [10:07] TR Bot Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The New Meta-Materials for Superlenses and Invisibility Cloaks [10:07] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:08] TR News "The Schoko Computer is a general-purpose computer featuring the Lattice ECP5 FPGA which can be configured as a RISC-V SoC capable of running Linux." https://linuxgizmos.com/schoko-computer-equipped-with-lattice-fpga-and-runs-on-linux/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:08] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/schoko-computer-equipped-with-lattice-fpga-and-runs-on-linux/ ) [10:09] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [10:10] TR News "Need some more Total War in your gaming library? Humble has a reasonably good selection available in the Total War Classics Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/humble-has-a-whole-lot-of-total-war-classics-in-this-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:10] TR Bot has a whole lot of Total War Classics in this bundle | GamingOnLinux [10:10] techuser iirc Humble Bundle used to be better [10:11] TR News Traveling? Drinking? Exercising? If you do, be VERY careful what you share online OSINT tools! https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/traveling-drinking-exercising-if-you-do,:5 [10:11] TR Bot Traveling? Drinking? Exercising? If you do, be VERY careful what you share online OSINT tools! [10:11] schestowitz[TR] techuser: yes [10:11] schestowitz[TR] they betrayed gnu/linux [10:12] TR News About Us - We are OSINTCurio.us https://osintcurio.us/aboutus/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//osintcurio.us/aboutus/ [10:12] TR Bot Us We are OSINTCurio.us [10:12] techuser I don't remember if they had anything about DRM-Free [10:12] techuser but even if they did, it was already fucked up in Humble Introversion Bundle then [10:13] techuser and at later point some Steam-only bundle appeared [10:14] TR News windows tco https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/uber-has-been-hacked:d [10:14] TR Bot Uber Has Been Hacked [10:14] TR News iophk: an approach to countering DRM https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/16/0331241#1272114 [10:14] TR Bot HP Continues to Pay for Abruptly Blocking Third-Party Ink from its Printers - SoylentNews [10:17] TR News UEFI http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170922.html#tSep%2017%2001:34:55 [10:17] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 17, 2022 [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:20] TR News BillPR takes money from the world's biggest puller, Bill Gates, while moaning about others https://text.npr.org/1121983842 | Source: BillPR [10:20] TR Bot As farmers split from the GOP on climate change, they're getting billions to fight it [10:21] TR News "A longer period of exposure to blue light was linked to the early onset of puberty in female rats" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22214-excessive-smartphone-use-linked-to-earlier-puberty-onset.html | Source: Helsinki Times [10:21] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22214-excessive-smartphone-use-linked-to-earlier-puberty-onset.html ) [10:21] TR News "Overcoming big pharmas profit motive has been achieved before, however" https://theconversation.com/the-big-barriers-to-global-vaccination-patent-rights-national-self-interest-and-the-wealth-gap-153443 | Source: The Conversation [10:21] TR Bot The big barriers to global vaccination: patent rights, national self-interest and the wealth gap [10:22] TR News "the technical interview parables have been a huge influence on me." https://xeiaso.net/blog/sleeping-the-technical-interview | Source: Xe's Blog [10:22] TR Bot Sleeping Through the Technical Interview - Xe [10:23] TR News "The spectrum of online discourse: one hand, humanities arent science enough to be worthwhile." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/on-the-benefits-of-humanities-in-software/ | Source: Buttondown [10:23] TR Bot On the benefits of humanities in software engineering Buttondown [10:23] TR News "I was planning on writing in detail my thoughts on the Apple event, and the products that were announced." https://chrishannah.me/thoughts-on-the-apple-event/ | Source: Chris Hannah [10:23] TR Bot Thoughts on the Apple Event [10:23] TR News "Now, researchers seem to have cracked the code. By reverse-engineering the communications between a Tesla Model Y and its credit card key" https://jalopnik.com/teslas-hackers-have-found-another-unauthorized-access-v-1849535920 | Source: GO Media [10:23] TR Bot Teslas Hackers Have Found Another Unauthorized Access Vulnerability [10:25] TR News VPNs https://invisv.com/articles/relay.html | [10:25] TR Bot Why VPNs are Wrong and MPRs are Right [10:25] TR News "I promised a travelogue, and here we go." https://computer.rip/2022-09-11-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-1.html | Source: Computers Are Bad [10:25] TR Bot Computers Are Bad [10:26] TR News "After our time milling around the Mercury cafeteria, it was back aboard the coach to enter the test site proper." https://computer.rip/2022-09-13-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-2.html | Source: Computers Are Bad [10:26] TR Bot Computers Are Bad [10:26] TR News "I said up front that the NNSS remains in use for several different purposes, although the level of activity today is not nearly as high as it once was." https://computer.rip/2022-09-15-the-nevada-national-security-site-pt-3.html | Source: Computers Are Bad [10:26] TR Bot Computers Are Bad [10:28] TR News Confidentiality lost https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/09/you-cant-make-secure-payments-in-the-metaverse/ | Source: Terence Eden [10:28] TR Bot You cant make secure payments in the Metaverse Terence Edens Blog [10:30] TR News "He plays the guardian of public morals and apparently also finds it funny to humiliate or expose girls because of their clothes or appearance." https://medforth.biz/austria-turkish-youtube-guardian-of-public-morals-causes-a-stir-in-vienna/ | Source: Medforth [10:30] TR Bot Austria: Turkish YouTube guardian of public morals causes a stir in Vienna Allah's Willing Executioners [10:33] TR News [Old] "Great Lakes waters are composed of numerous aquifers (groundwater) that have filled with water over the centuries, waters that flow in the tributaries of the Great Lakes" https://www.michigan.gov/egle/about/organization/water-resources/submerged-lands/levels-background | Source: The State of Michigan [10:33] TR Bot Background Information on Lake Levels in the Great Lakes [10:33] TR News [Old] "In the drought-stricken West, some people are turning toward the Great Lakes and asking, what if we could bring some of that water out here?" https://www.wmuk.org/wmuk-news/2022-01-11/why-the-water-in-the-great-lakes-should-not-be-for-sale-according-to-one-michigan-author | [10:33] TR Bot Why the water in the Great Lakes should not be "for sale", according to one Michigan author [10:33] TR News "Nestls extraction and sale of Michigan groundwater have been consistently challenged by water conservation advocates." https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Michigans-groundwater-and-the-public-trust-doctrine?ArticleID=4451 | [10:33] TR Bot Michigans groundwater and the public trust doctrine [10:34] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:34] TR News "As the spyware inquiry committee prepares for its fact-finding mission to Poland 1921 September, MEPs condemn the Polish authorities lack of cooperation with their visit." https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220915IPR40601/statement-of-pega-coordinators-on-polish-authorities-refusal-to-cooperate | Source: European Parliament [10:35] TR Bot Statement of PEGA Coordinators on Polish authorities refusal to cooperate | News | European Parliament [10:35] TR News "It doesn't rely on untrustworthy fickle humans that youve paid to tell you what you want to hear." https://gru.gq/2022/09/17/quantified-failure/ | Source: TheGrugq [10:35] TR Bot Quantified Failure [10:35] TR News [Old] "For context, Windows 11 was announced in June 2021 and officially released a few months later in October. But a full rollout to all compatible devices took many months" https://www.techadvisor.com/article/745965/will-there-be-a-windows-12.html | [10:35] TR Bot Windows 12: Everything we know so far | Tech Advisor [10:37] TR News "I am going to show you how I fixed no bootable device found error after installing Ubuntu in Acer laptops." https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/ | Source: Its FOSS [10:37] TR Bot [Fixed] "No Bootable Device" Error After Installing Ubuntu [10:38] TR News "undermining the Islamic religion" https://www.africanews.com/2022/09/14/morocco-jail-upheld-on-appeal-for-blogger-accused-of-undermining-islam-lawyer/ | Source: Africa News [10:38] TR Bot jail upheld on appeal for blogger accused of "undermining Islam" - lawyer | Africanews [10:38] TR News "electronically attacking religion" https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/moroccan-blogger-sentenced-jail-over-attacking-islam | Source: TheNewArab [10:38] TR Bot Moroccan blogger sentenced to jail over 'attacking Islam' [10:38] TR News "In videos of the protests posted on social media, police officers can be seen dispersing the demonstrators" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-death-sentence-protests-security-prevents/32031934.html | Source: RFERL [10:38] TR Bot Iranian Security Forces Prevent Relatives From Protesting Death Sentences [10:38] TR News "In a follow-up video, Jaelyn said she met up with the woman who fired her to get a written explanation to send to a lawyer" https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/nurse-on-onlyfans-fired-due-to-coworkers-watching-her-videos-at-work/ | Source: NYPost [10:38] TR Bot Nurse on OnlyFans fired due to co-workers watching her videos at work [10:41] TR News "CCs deep engagement with the SDGs comes from two of our fundamental beliefs: First, that the 17 SDGs identify the worlds biggest challenges" https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/17/cc-at-un-globalgoalsweek-2022/ | Source: Creative Commons [10:41] TR Bot CC at UN #GlobalGoalsWeek 2022 - Creative Commons [10:52] TR News Disinformation https://truthout.org/articles/right-wing-disinformation-campaigns-are-imperiling-access-to-trans-health-care/ | Source: TruthOut [10:52] TR Bot Right-Wing Disinformation Campaigns Are Imperiling Access to Trans Health Care [10:53] TR News Greenwashing https://truthout.org/articles/oil-companies-claim-theyre-going-green-but-their-investments-show-otherwise/ | Source: TruthOut [10:53] TR Bot Oil Companies Claim They're Going Green But Their Investments Show Otherwise [10:53] TR News "A lot of people had a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I. This was a home computer built into a keyboard that needed an external monitor or TV set." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/trs-80-model-ii-lives-again/ | Source: Hackaday [10:53] TR Bot Model II Lives Again | Hackaday [10:53] TR News Internet Of Animals https://hackaday.com/2022/09/18/tiny-gps-logger-for-the-internet-of-animals/ | Source: Hackaday [10:53] TR Bot GPS Logger For The Internet Of Animals | Hackaday [10:54] TR News Defending whistleblowers https://thedissenter.org/house-of-representatives-passes-whistleblower-protection-bill-access-to-jury-trials/ | Source: The Dissenter [10:54] TR Bot House Passes Bill Granting Whistleblowers Court Access [10:54] TR News ESP32 https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/diy-haptic-enabled-vr-gun-hits-all-the-targets/ | Source: Hackaday [10:54] TR Bot Haptic-Enabled VR Gun Hits All The Targets | Hackaday [10:57] TR News Gulag https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/17/4-billion-eu-antitrust-fine-beats-google/ | Source: Scheerpost [10:57] TR Bot a Major Reversal of Fortunes Google Gets Slapped Down Hard By Europes Top Regulatory Court scheerpost.com [10:58] TR News Moscow Times https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/17/moscow-times-journalist-detained-in-belgorod-on-suspicion-of-spying-for-ukraine | Source: Meduza [10:58] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:58] TR News "foreign agent" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/17/maksim-galkin-declared-a-foreign-agent | Source: Meduza [10:58] TR Bot NO TITLE [10:59] TR News Whistleblowers https://shadowproof.com/2022/09/17/house-pass-bill-grants-whistleblowers-access-jury-trials/ | Source: Shadowproof [10:59] TR Bot House Passes Bill Granting Whistleblowers Access To Jury Trials [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.00 ● Sep 18 [11:00] TR News "The piracy liability trial between several major record labels and Internet provider Grande is scheduled to start this fall." https://torrentfreak.com/isp-hopes-to-defeat-record-labels-piracy-liability-claims-at-trial-220917/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:00] TR Bot Hopes to Defeat Record Labels' Piracy Liability Claims at Trial * TorrentFreak [11:00] TR News "3D printing bearings with an FDM printer can be an iffy endeavor" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/3d-printable-bearings-that-actually-work-no-cad-tweaking-required/ | Source: Hackaday [11:00] TR Bot Printable Bearings That Actually Work, No CAD Tweaking Required | Hackaday [11:00] TR News "3D printers are good for a lot of things, but making parts for power transmission doesnt seem to be one of them." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/3d-printed-strain-wave-gearbox-turns-up-the-torque/ | Source: Hackaday [11:00] TR Bot Printed Strain-Wave Gearbox Turns Up The Torque | Hackaday [11:04] *Noisytoot_ is now known as Noisytoot [11:08] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mumw5xsbhyj8c.irc) has joined #techrights [11:08] TR News "When the power goes out, it goes without saying that all the lights and sockets in a house stop working." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/17/the-cpsc-says-plug-to-socket-not-plug-to-plug-please/ | Source: Hackaday [11:08] TR Bot CPSC Says Plug To Socket, Not Plug To Plug, Please | Hackaday [11:20] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:24] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights [11:51] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi [11:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [11:51] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [11:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [11:51] TR News (NEW): Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics Bundle http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.gmi [11:51] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics Bundle [11:51] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [11:51] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [11:52] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_leftovers.gmi [11:52] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [11:52] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware and Gadgets With GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Open_Hardware_and_Gadgets_With_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Open_Hardware_and_Gadgets_With_GNU_Linux.gmi [11:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware and Gadgets With GNU/Linux [11:52] TR News (NEW): Proprietary Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Proprietary_Software_Leftovers.gmi [11:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Proprietary Software Leftovers [11:53] TR News Links 18/09/2022: Adobe Collapses 17% in a Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/adobe-collapses/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/adobe-collapses/ [11:53] TR Bot Links 18/09/2022: Adobe Collapses 17% in a Day | Techrights [11:57] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● Sep 18 [12:06] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: Best economy ever! [12:06] DaemonFC Facebook down two-thirds. [12:06] DaemonFC Ad companies down 80%. [12:06] schestowitz[TR] 90% already? [12:06] schestowitz[TR] it was almost $400 [12:06] schestowitz[TR] then 180 or 160 when I checked [12:07] schestowitz[TR] is it less than $100 now? [12:07] schestowitz[TR] sounds like there "might" be "recession" [12:07] schestowitz[TR] or "market correction" for longstanding bubble [12:07] schestowitz[TR] tesla has a new hole ripped\ [12:09] DaemonFC The investment news is now panicking that the stock market could be down another 26% by the time the inflation is stamped out. [12:10] DaemonFC Of course that's not true.It'll be much worse. [12:10] schestowitz[TR] yeah [12:10] schestowitz[TR] WHO officials seem to have become like Wall STreet 'analysts' [12:11] schestowitz[TR] now WHO says covid end "in sight" [12:11] schestowitz[TR] like, wait [12:11] schestowitz[TR] eradicating it? [12:11] schestowitz[TR] no [12:11] schestowitz[TR] they mean giving up on the fight [12:11] schestowitz[TR] too many lies abound [12:11] DaemonFC We're stuck with it. It's the Cold/Flu/COVID season now. [12:12] DaemonFC And people who are allegedly intelligent, like Jamie Zawinski and Richard Stallman, act as though if a few more people wore their masks, COVID would go away forever. [12:12] schestowitz[TR] spoke to my dad about it for an hur today [12:12] schestowitz[TR] my mom got infected 3 times [12:12] DaemonFC The masks would maybe slow it down a little bit. [12:12] schestowitz[TR] no, you are wrong [12:12] DaemonFC But that's all. [12:12] schestowitz[TR] Jamie Zawinski and Richard Stallman caution about spreading it [12:12] schestowitz[TR] because we can slow down the spread [12:12] schestowitz[TR] and it buys us tiome [12:13] DaemonFC Time for what? [12:13] schestowitz[TR] to better understand the issue and develop solutions [12:13] schestowitz[TR] and medical treatments [12:13] schestowitz[TR] and TEST them [12:13] schestowitz[TR] 3 eyars of covid-19 next month [12:13] schestowitz[TR] 3 years is not a lot [12:13] schestowitz[TR] in understanding diseases [12:13] schestowitz[TR] and making mitigation for them [12:13] schestowitz[TR] my dad just got the flu shot [12:13] schestowitz[TR] those are effective [12:14] schestowitz[TR] flu might be no worse then covid-19 [12:14] schestowitz[TR] the difference is, [12:14] schestowitz[TR] we already gave tens of billions of flu shots [12:14] schestowitz[TR] and there was a lot of time to study them [12:14] schestowitz[TR] *worse than [12:14] schestowitz[TR] so with old people gettingh flu shots 1 or 2 times per year [12:14] DaemonFC I would say flu is not necessarily worse. [12:14] schestowitz[TR] the death rates are not in in 5 [12:14] DaemonFC Well, now they want a new mRNA flu shot. [12:14] schestowitz[TR] *1 in 5 [12:15] DaemonFC More patents, not necessarily more effective. [12:15] schestowitz[TR] yeah, patents [12:15] DaemonFC Watch flu shots go the way of insulin. [12:15] schestowitz[TR] I said the same [12:15] schestowitz[TR] capitalism wants to bury some pensioners anyway [12:15] DaemonFC They go from $20 to "nobody makes that one anymore. The new one is $300.". [12:15] schestowitz[TR] take away their pension capital [12:15] schestowitz[TR] for spculation [12:16] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: Medicare covers flu shots 100% like it covers most vaccines. Mom won't take them. [12:16] DaemonFC She ends up sick with something multiple times a year. [12:16] schestowitz[TR] because she is ignorant [12:16] DaemonFC I would suggest not going near her unless you have your shots. [12:16] schestowitz[TR] and hangs out with other religious ignoramus [12:17] schestowitz[TR] a nurse who rejects flu shots [12:17] schestowitz[TR] news at midnight [12:17] DaemonFC It's not uncommon, actually. [12:17] schestowitz[TR] in the us [12:17] DaemonFC It's just that most don't work for the Catholic Church and their employer can fire them if they refuse. [12:18] DaemonFC The Catholics pay extra to put Grandma in a religious home, where all the nurses are skipping their vaccines and bringing God knows what into work and between patient rooms with them. [12:18] DaemonFC "Here's twice as much money. Please kill mom 7 years too soon. Thanks!" [12:19] schestowitz[TR] she died for the daughter's sins [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:20] TR News GStreamer gets the Microsoft infection, too https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/cerbero/-/merge_requests/915 [12:20] TR Bot Add support for building Cargo-C recipes for native builds (!915) Merge requests GStreamer / cerbero GitLab [12:22] TR News SteamDeck - Automount External drives - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=j5sci66hs0k | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/j5sci66hs0k [12:22] TR Bot SteamDeck - Automount External drives - Invidious [12:23] TR News "This project is a continuation of Ingo Weinholds original Ham project, which paused development in 2013. Over the course of the GSoC period, I completed the evaluation portion of Ham, which converts a Jam build system into a series of commands to run." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/dominicm/2022-09-10_gsoc_2022_ham_final_report/ [12:23] TR Bot [GSoC 2022] Ham: Final Report | Haiku Project [12:24] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mumw5xsbhyj8c.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) [12:24] TR News GSoC 2022 Final Report: Improving the Calendar Application https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/harshitsharma/2022-09-12_gsoc_2022_final_report_improving_the_calendar_application/ [12:24] TR Bot GSoC 2022 Final Report: Improving the Calendar Application | Haiku Project [12:24] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mumw5xsbhyj8c.irc) has joined #techrights [12:26] TR News "GraphQL decouples the frontend team's data needs from the teams managing the API and data layers." https://matt-rickard.com/graphql-trades-complexity [12:26] TR Bot GraphQL Trades Complexity [12:28] TR News "My fellow Americans, I regret to inform you that our beloved health insurance industry has done a major fuckery. I know this is hard to believe, given the probity and honor we associate with our fine insurance companies, but the evidence is incontrovertible." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/10/big-data/#malicious-compliance [12:28] TR Bot Pluralistic: 10 Sep 2022 American healthcare did a fuckery, the White House has a plan for Big Tech big-data Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [12:29] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mumw5xsbhyj8c.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) [12:29] TR News "In our next book, Chokepoint Capitalism, Rebecca Giblin and I set out to shatter the false binary that creative workers can only choose between rooting for Big Tech or Big Content, as if one flavor of monopolist will be better for us than the other." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/12/streaming-doesnt-pay/#stunt-publishing [12:29] TR Bot Pluralistic: 12 Sep 2022 Spotify is a ripoff, a Spotify exclusive Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [12:31] *starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 147.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 128.20 ● Sep 18 [13:09] TR News No evidence that depression is caused by low serotonin levels, finds comprehensive review | UCL News - UCL University College London https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-caused-low-serotonin-levels-finds-comprehensive-review [13:09] TR Bot No evidence that depression is caused by low serotonin levels, finds comprehensive review | UCL News - UCL University College London [13:10] TR News "They found that nearly 400 officers 400 rushed to the school, but it took them more than an hour to confront the gunman." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/19/uvalde_elementary_shooting_texas_abbott_funerals [13:10] TR Bot Nearly 400 Officers Raced to Uvalde School Shooting. Why Did It Take 77 Minutes to Confront Gunman? | Democracy Now! [13:12] TR News "Mukunda Rao makes it clear in his book that contrary to what is widely believed, Indias spiritual history is not all about Brahmanical beliefs, Sanskrit literature, the Upanishads, and the Gita, or even the caste system." https://thewire.in/books/book-review-india-spiritual-masters-mukunda-rao [13:12] TR Bot Maverick, Free and Believers in Hindu-Muslim Unity: How India's Spiritual Masters Fought Orthodoxy [13:12] TR News One Third of Developing Country Women Become Teen Mothers | News | teleSUR English https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/One-Third-of-Developing-Country-Women-Become-Teen-Mothers-20220705-0002.html Source: teleSUR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.telesurenglish.net/news/One-Third-of-Developing-Country-Women-Become-Teen-Mothers-20220705-0002.html [13:12] TR Bot NO TITLE [13:18] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:22] TR News Adding review support to Breakfast and Coffee | James' Coffee Blog https://jamesg.blog/2022/09/11/review-breakfast-and-coffee/ Source: James G | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jamesg.blog/2022/09/11/review-breakfast-and-coffee/ [13:22] TR Bot Adding review support to Breakfast and Coffee | James' Coffee Blog [13:24] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:24] TR News "It's what I love about the story of the web. Individuals across the globe following their passions, finding each other in those passions, and fostering the birth of something new from their disparate stories all enabled by great software whose output is something we construct together." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/building-together/ [13:24] TR Bot Building Together - Jim Nielsens Blog [13:25] TR News "Design is about purpose and intent. To answer, Is this good design? We must also answer: good for who?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/good-design/ [13:25] TR Bot Good Design - Jim Nielsens Blog [13:26] TR News The Innovator's Paradox https://matt-rickard.com/the-innovators-paradox [13:26] TR Bot The Innovator's Paradox [13:27] TR News [Old] Social Media Is Warping Democracy - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/social-media-democracy/600763/ Source: The Atlantic | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/12/social-media-democracy/600763/ [13:27] TR Bot Social Media Is Warping Democracy - The Atlantic [13:28] TR News Against federal guidance, states plan to expand highways | Grist https://grist.org/transportation/against-federal-guidance-states-plan-to-expand-highways/ Source: Grist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//grist.org/transportation/against-federal-guidance-states-plan-to-expand-highways/ [13:28] TR Bot Against federal guidance, states plan to expand highways | Grist [13:31] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [14:05] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22081711 [14:05] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/r9gG6bb.jpg created on 2022-08-17 02:20:31.667493 [14:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [14:14] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [14:15] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [14:15] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@tkbibjhmbkvb8.irc) has joined #techrights [14:19] TR News "I flirted with IPFS off and on since about 2015, and as of this summer, I've been using it heavily" gemini://the-brannons.com/tech-and-conscience/ [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] TR News "About 15 years ago, I dabbled with Freenet. I stopped pretty quickly, because with the way that Freenet works, you have no control over what is hosted or exchanged using your resources. The hard drive space and network connectivity dedicated to Freenet may well be used for storing or transmission of kiddy porn without one's knowledge." gemini://the-brannons.com/tech-and-conscience/ [14:24] TR News (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi [14:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest [14:24] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [14:24] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [14:24] TR News (NEW): 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 41.0 BETA released. http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/4MLinux_Releases_4MLinux_41_0_BETA_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/4MLinux_Releases_4MLinux_41_0_BETA_released.gmi [14:24] TR Bot Tux Machines 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 41.0 BETA released. [14:26] TR News Surveillance with positive slant https://finnstats.com/index.php/2022/09/17/the-role-of-data-science-in-preventing-fraud/ [14:26] TR Bot Role of Data Science in Preventing Fraud finnstats [14:31] TR News Saturn Elephant - The 'Reorient' transformation https://laustep.github.io/stlahblog/posts/ReorientTransformation.html Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//laustep.github.io/stlahblog/posts/ReorientTransformation.html [14:31] TR Bot Saturn Elephant - The 'Reorient' transformation [14:33] TR News "R is primarily designed for statistical computing and graphics, and thats where Ive spent most of my time in R. This includes developing an R package, exSTRa, for my PhD. R isnt an ideal language for video games, without native support for reactive programming. Though where theres computing, there are games." https://tankard.id/post/review-of-games-written-in-r/ [14:33] TR Bot A Review of Games Written in R on CRAN | Dr. Rick Tankard [14:34] TR News R Markdown Lesser-Known Tips - Tricks #4: Looks Better, Works Better - RStudio https://www.rstudio.com/blog/r-markdown-tips-tricks-4-looks-better-works-better/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rstudio.com/blog/r-markdown-tips-tricks-4-looks-better-works-better/ [14:34] TR Bot Markdown Lesser-Known Tips & Tricks #4: Looks Better, Works Better - RStudio [14:35] TR News "Have you made a split-plot field experiment? Have you repeated such an experiment in two (or more) years/locations? Have you run into troubles, because the reviewer told you that your ANOVA model was invalid?" https://www.statforbiology.com/2022/stat_lmm_2-wayssplitrepeated/ [14:35] TR Bot The broken bridge between biologists and statisticians | Multi-environment split-plot experiments [14:37] TR News Survival of the Richest https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn "The super-rich attendees at the conference were obsessed with "The Event" civil unrest, environmental collapse, some other end-of-the-world scenario" [14:37] TR Bot Pluralistic: 13 Sep 2022 Survival of the Richest Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [14:38] TR News "Four years later, Rushkoff has turned his experience with the wealthy, the technology-addled, and the selfish-solutionist wing of Silicon Valley into a book called Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires. 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The 747 was heading to Malta when the engine cowling fell from the jet, crashing down into the property of a local resident." https://simpleflying.com/parts-of-air-atlanta-icelandic-boeing-747-fall-on-belgian-house/ [14:39] TR Bot Parts Of Air Atlanta Icelandic Boeing 747 Fall On Belgian House [14:40] TR News bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe" |nitter.it https://nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105 | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105 [14:40] TR Bot poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe"|nitter.it [14:45] immibis mixling: what is gender? [14:52] mixling immibis: by definition, not my opinion, a "social construct" [14:52] TR News "Bombardier said it will end production of Learjet aircraft later this year, allowing it to focus on its more profitable Challenger and Global aircraft families." https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/bombardier-announces-the-elimination-of-1-600-positions-and-end-of-the-learjet-1.5304555 [14:52] TR Bot Bombardier to cut 1,600 jobs in move to reduce costs and consolidate work | CTV News [14:53] TR News Amend 3.6 Released https://jcs.org/2022/09/12/amend [14:53] TR Bot Amend 3.6 Released - joshua stein [14:56] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2208175 [14:56] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fg82vktf2ih91.jpg created on 2022-08-17 01:08:22.651353 [14:58] schestowitz[TR] immibis: a way to derail irc channels [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 143.20 [14:59] TR News "Sr. Engineer at a Drunk state" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/09/software-engineering-realities/ [14:59] TR Bot 101 software engineering realities you must be aware of (especially as a junior engineer) ● Sep 18 [15:01] mixling immibis: why do you ask? [15:02] TR News "I've also struggled with depression and anxiety, had three different therapists, and tried multiple different anxiety and depression medications. And I've adopted three cats, met and married my wife, and had two kids with her." https://ntietz.com/tech-blog/going-to-recurse-center/ [15:02] TR Bot I'm taking a sabbatical and attending Recurse Center! | nicholas@web [15:03] TR News Is this the madness that comes with monarchy - or is it the disdain thats over the top? - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/abc-media-monarchy-reporting/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/abc-media-monarchy-reporting/ [15:03] TR Bot Is this the madness that comes with monarchy - or is it the disdain that's over the top? - Michael West [15:10] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:12] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights [15:13] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/18/kyrgyzstan-reports-36-people-killed-in-clashes-with-tajikistan-news "Kyrgyzstan reports 36 people killed in clashes with Tajikistan" [15:13] TR Bot . [15:14] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/18/famous-russian-singer-alla-pugacheva-asks-to-include-her-on-foreign-agent-list-alongside-her-husband-tv-presenter-maxim-galkin-news "Famous Russian singer Alla Pugacheva asks to include her on foreign agent list alongside her husband, TV presenter Maxim Galkin" [15:14] TR Bot . [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:26] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:40] XRevan86 https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/17/police-fire-tear-gas-at-rally-after-iranian-womans-funeral [15:40] TR Bot Protests at funeral of Iranian woman who died in police custody | Women News | Al Jazeera [15:42] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Install Oracle VirtualBox in Fedora Linux [Tutorial] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Fedora_Linux_Tutorial.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Fedora_Linux_Tutorial.gmi [15:42] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Install Oracle VirtualBox in Fedora Linux [Tutorial] [15:44] TR News Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/ [15:44] TR Bot Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights [15:45] immibis mixling: you seem to be about as confused as DaemonFC [15:45] TR News AZLOSUE Wordo: MAIMS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-18.gmi [15:47] mixling immibis: why? confused how? [15:47] immibis mixling: same way as DaemonFC [15:48] mixling immibis: which why? [15:48] immibis but you got it right the second time so I may have misunderstood the situation [15:48] immibis and yes, this flavor of "gender" equality is harmful to any society where it flourishes i should have put "equality" into quotes too [15:50] mixling immibis: this is a partial quote, missing exactly what i said [15:51] schestowitz[TR] immibis: this is not even remoately on topic [15:51] schestowitz[TR] so better to drop it and move to tech [15:58] TR News The Linux Foundation = Fraud. Open Source On-Ramp @ OSS NA 2022... keynotes by VMware and Microsoft. ● Sep 18 [16:13] *techrights_guest|46 (~61787e88@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:13] *techrights_guest|46 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:36] TR News Happiness is the Highest Form of Health - Dalai Lama | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/ [16:36] TR Bot Happiness is the Highest Form of Health Dalai Lama | Techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 51.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 142.81 ● Sep 18 [17:01] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=hu&tl=en&u=https://szabadeuropa.hu/a/32036752.html "Viktor Orbn gave a closed speech about EU falling apart, territorial loss of Ukraine and a Fidesz government until 2060" [17:01] TR Bot 2060-ig tart Fidesz-kormnyzsrl is beszlt Ktcsn Orbn Viktor [17:01] XRevan86 MinceR: What the actual fsck [17:02] XRevan86 The guy keeps surprising me. [17:04] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/09/18/7367983/ [17:04] TR Bot Occupiers report new attack on POW camp in Olenivka, Ukrainian prisoner of war dies | Ukrainska Pravda [17:08] TR News After Jim Zemlin Told Us We Should Respect Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/ [17:08] TR Bot After Jim Zemlin Told Us We Should Respect Microsoft | Techrights [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:20] TR News My Raktajino headcanon gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220918-my-raktajino-headcanon.gmi [17:22] TR News "Gemini proxies of a few local news sources" gemini://hoagie.space/proxy [17:24] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [17:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [17:25] TR News [PATCH RFC v3] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO - Jason A. Donenfeld https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220916125916.652546-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/ [17:25] TR Bot [PATCH RFC v3] random: implement getrandom() in vDSO - Jason A. Donenfeld [17:26] TR News 214: Linux Plumbers Conference, Fedora, Kdenlive Fundraiser, Linux Malware and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-214/ Source: Tux Digital [17:26] TR Bot Linux Plumbers Conference, Fedora, Kdenlive Fundraiser, Linux Malware and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [17:27] TR News Kdenlive 22.08.1 released - Kdenlive https://kdenlive.org/en/2022/09/kdenlive-22-08-1-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kdenlive.org/en/2022/09/kdenlive-22-08-1-released/ [17:27] TR Bot Kdenlive 22.08.1 released - Kdenlive [17:29] TR News [PATCH mm-unstable v15 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220918080010.2920238-1-yuzhao@google.com/T/#m1a5008481fbbd0f1d5cc0355d69f36e709d08725 Source: [17:29] TR Bot [PATCH mm-unstable v15 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework [17:31] TR News Android dominates Africa (by far; Windows is estimated at 17% market share) http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/africa-trends/ [17:31] TR Bot Africa As a Sign of Things to Come Internationally | Techrights [17:32] TR News Mr. Torvalds is turning 53 on December 28th; his health took a turn for the worse after he was blackmailed into making an unnecesssary apology and the Linux Foundation sent him to humiliating treatment (therapy) that he had been forced to take as a condition for returning to his own project http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/health-torvalds/ [17:32] TR News Jim Zemlins wife, who does not like Linux, is connected to Microsoft and is engaging in securities fraud, is a blunder and a conflict of interest for the Linux Foundation, which also told us to "respect Microsoft"; all these people care about is money http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/ [17:36] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [17:50] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:50] *CrystalMath (~coderain@p8uxmcktikkdi.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 18 [18:00] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:06] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:07] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:10] *horseface has quit (connection closed) [18:10] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] *horseface_ (~horseface@f3w522c2pdase.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:17] *horseface (~horseface@zisfjvu4z99eq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:17] *horseface_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:20] *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 143.90 ● Sep 18 [19:04] *thighest_hubris_crills has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:09] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:48] TR News (NEW): #HowTo Install VirtualBox Guest Additions in Fedora Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_VirtualBox_Guest_Additions_in_Fedora_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/How_to_Install_VirtualBox_Guest_Additions_in_Fedora_Linux.gmi [19:48] TR Bot Tux Machines How to Install VirtualBox Guest Additions in Fedora Linux [19:55] TR News Setting up FreshRSS on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-freshrss/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-freshrss/ [19:55] TR Bot Setting up FreshRSS on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up ● Sep 18 [20:00] TR News InfoWorld (IDG) is propaganda site of Microsoft. Their writers are longtime Microsoft operative. They even have a WHOLE section called "ENTERPRISE MICROSOFT". This isn't media, it is marketing spam. [20:01] TR News Gemini's founder: "I am kind of burned out on writing more or less exclusively about my "big picture" thoughts on ideas at the intersection of computing technology and environmental sustainability." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/solderpunk/gemlog/franken-peugeot-updates.gmi [20:04] TR News "And we have [Collaborative Directory of Geminispace] announced. What are the most modern achievements in the internet directories business? It seems that there aren't many of them, and we are still in the '90s." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-09-18-The-best-way-to-organize-the-catalog.gmi [20:07] TR News "We cover events and user groups that are running in Chile. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-chile/ [20:07] TR Bot Around The World: Chile - LinuxLinks [20:14] TR News (NEW): 10 Fun Free and Open Source First Person Shooter Games: Part 2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/10_Fun_Free_and_Open_Source_First_Person_Shooter_Games_Part_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/10_Fun_Free_and_Open_Source_First_Person_Shooter_Games_Part_2.gmi [20:14] TR Bot Tux Machines 10 Fun Free and Open Source First Person Shooter Games: Part 2 [20:15] TR News "Bill likes his new job. We received a lot of feedback from listeners trying Linux for the first time." https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp430 [20:15] TR Bot Going Linux Shownotes [20:16] TR News SUSE is my new distribution (new job) https://danigm.net/suse.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//danigm.net/suse.html [20:16] TR Bot SUSE is my new distribution (new job) [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:20] *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:21] TR News Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/hideo-kojima-the-steam-deck-tgs-2022-podcast/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/hideo-kojima-the-steam-deck-tgs-2022-podcast/ [20:21] TR Bot Hideo Kojima Trying out the Steam Deck at the TGS 2022, and His New Podcast called Brain Structure - Boiling Steam [20:33] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/today_s_howtos.3.gmi [20:33] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [20:33] TR News (NEW): OSMC's September update is here with Debian 11 (Bullseye) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/OSMC_s_September_update_is_here_with_Debian_11_Bullseye.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/OSMC_s_September_update_is_here_with_Debian_11_Bullseye.gmi [20:33] TR Bot Tux Machines OSMC's September update is here with Debian 11 (Bullseye) [20:34] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-microsoft-can-get-your-passwords-via-web-browsers-spellcheck/ [20:34] TR Bot Google, Microsoft can get your passwords via web browser's spellcheck [20:35] schestowitz[TR] even worse [20:35] schestowitz[TR] Microsoft grabs it via EDGE [20:35] schestowitz[TR] all of them [20:35] schestowitz[TR] gabs [20:35] schestowitz[TR] not CAN grab [20:35] schestowitz[TR] grabs [20:35] mixling or the UEFI usb stack does [20:35] schestowitz[TR] it's one massive espionage ioperation [20:36] schestowitz[TR] gulag was exposed in snowedne elaks as giving nsa access toi passwoprds in the clown [20:36] mixling micros~1 threadx rtos (IoT clown, Azure) too got an usb protocol stack implemented [20:37] mixling microsft claims, threadx rtos is the most widely deployed operating system globally: 4billion [20:38] TR News Kdenlive 22.08.1 (UPDATED) 17:27 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Kdenlive_22_08_1.shtml [20:38] TR Bot Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08.1 (UPDATED) [20:38] TR News White space, punctuation, Whitespace and Forth gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-09-18_White_space__punctuation__Whitespace_and_Forth.gmi [20:40] TR News September 18, 2012: wedding. September 18, 2022: modest celebration with a small cake. Wedding anniversary. Back to work now... [20:43] TR News [PATCH 0/5] Enable a few DSA 2.0 features - Fenghua Yu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220917161222.2835172-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com/ Source: Thread | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220917161222.2835172-1-fenghua.yu@intel.com/ [20:43] TR Bot [PATCH 0/5] Enable a few DSA 2.0 features - Fenghua Yu [20:44] XRevan86 https://theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/18/mahsa-amini-dozens-injured-in-iran-protests-after-death-in-custody [20:44] TR Bot Mahsa Amini: dozens injured in Iran protests after death in custody | Iran | The Guardian [20:44] TR News "I had asked both Conservancy and FSF members to call in to help with that discussion there was what felt like a shouting match. It was the first time I felt an in-person event was worse than an email discussion. Hopefully people will calm down" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/09/18/sourceware-infrastructure-conservancy-gnu-toolchain-at-cauldron/ [20:45] TR Bot Mark J. Wielaard Blog Archive Sourceware Infrastructure / Conservancy / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron [20:47] TR News "We are aware that several presentations will be given at Cauldron this weekend proposing new ways to support the Sourceware project and the GNU Toolchain packages hosted there." https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html [20:47] TR Bot Sourceware / GNU Toolchain at Cauldron [20:47] TR News "The FSF has been a fiscal sponsor to the GNU Toolchain for several years (and continues to be), and has been grateful to have Sourceware providing development infrastructure using free software. Unfortunately, we won't have staff present at Cauldron, but we are keeping up with the development of the various proposals and talking with people involved" https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html [20:48] TR News "We want Sourceware and the GNU packages it hosts to have stable homes and strong futures in freedom. We expect the conversations in the next few days to be open and transparent and involving the community, and look forward to discussing the best way(s) forward in the coming weeks." https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018843.html [20:50] TR News (NEW): Shows and Videos: Going Linux, This Week in Linux, SteamDeck http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_This_Week_in_Linux_SteamDeck.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_This_Week_in_Linux_SteamDeck.gmi [20:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Going Linux, This Week in Linux, SteamDeck [20:50] TR News (NEW): Free Software: Hugo Roy, Sourceware, NextCloud, and More (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/09/Free_Software_Hugo_Roy_Sourceware_NextCloud_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/09/Free_Software_Hugo_Roy_Sourceware_NextCloud_and_More.gmi [20:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Free Software: Hugo Roy, Sourceware, NextCloud, and More (UPDATED) [20:53] TR News projects that primarily use email. [...]. project on github" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/~mark/sourceware/sourceware.md [20:53] TR News The attack on GNU and FSF continues. "At Red Hat we are trying to push CI testing upstream. [...] Younger generation has trouble contributing to projects that primarily use email. [...]. project on github" https://gnu.wildebeest.org/~mark/sourceware/sourceware.md [20:55] MinceR 18 180150 < XRevan86> MinceR: What the actual fsck [20:55] MinceR just the usual ruscist fantasies [20:55] MinceR i thought you'd become used to it by now [20:55] XRevan86 MinceR: I mean, I am used to, but it's like if a 2017 myself would get dunk into 2022 all at once. [20:56] XRevan86 It's all about the intensity. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 47.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 97.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 149.41 ● Sep 18 [21:00] XRevan86 MinceR: The guy's not just a cynical autocrat, he's a genuine Putinist. [21:03] schestowitz[TR] "This seems like a great idea; SFC is well known for helping free software projects run more smoothly. I hope they make this happen!" [21:03] schestowitz[TR] keith packard [21:03] schestowitz[TR] not a fsf fan [21:03] schestowitz[TR] https://lwn.net/Articles/906663/ [21:03] TR Bot seeking support from the Software Freedom Conservancy [LWN.net] [21:07] starstreak this is supposed to be a painting of linus: https://i.imgur.com/LpdOVwx.png [21:09] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: can someone explain to me Sourceware? [21:09] schestowitz[TR] and gcc [21:10] schestowitz[TR] maybe even activelow will know [21:10] schestowitz[TR] seems like they're taking control of gcc via sfc [21:14] mixling i only saw SFC mentioned with Matthew Garret, and licensing dispute over Toybox userspace [21:15] schestowitz[TR] same grou [21:15] schestowitz[TR] the coup folks [21:15] mixling arrived at toybox (instead of GPL licensed variants), because of _technical_ criteria [21:15] schestowitz[TR] ok, I will posta drraft [21:15] schestowitz[TR] tell me if it makes senses [21:15] mixling as far as i am concerned, i would prefer toybox over GNU coreutils/util-linux/busybox, even when toybox was GPL [21:16] mixling while some corporations (Google), chose toybox for political reasons: "no GPL in userspace", which is none of my concerns [21:17] mixling similar situation with gnu-toolchain (gcc/binutils) and gnu-buildsystem (autotools/automake), i don't want to use because of quality problems GNU/SFC/FSF have [21:17] MinceR 18 220956 < schestowitz[TR]> MinceR: can someone explain to me Sourceware? [21:17] MinceR i don't know it [21:18] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ [21:19] TR Bot Splinter Group SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights [21:19] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: does it make sense? [21:19] schestowitz[TR] my interpretation of it? [21:19] AdmFubar which sourceware? [21:19] MinceR \_()_/ [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] schestowitz[TR] SFC tries to replace FSF [21:20] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@zx4r4gr9htgby.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] schestowitz[TR] by sucking up to GAFAM [21:20] schestowitz[TR] controlled oppositoopn [21:20] schestowitz[TR] with the "f" word thrown in [21:21] mixling won't solve any of the quality issues GNU-software has [21:21] mixling same with linux-kernel, i am far more concerned with it's software quality, than where it's git repository is hosted [21:22] DaemonFC Richard Stallman is a poor judge of character. He gave a Free Software Award to mjg59_for collaborating with Microsoft to lock us out of our PCs while defaming OpenBSD and Theo de Raadt because the GNU branding isn't all over the place in their FOSS operating system [21:22] schestowitz[TR] and taking GAFAM money [21:24] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: There's less GAFAM money now because of the stock crash. [21:24] DaemonFC Hopefully this cripples them badly. [21:27] DaemonFC They played around with investor money and now they fire people [21:27] TR News Splinter Group SFC (Already Sued by Moglen/SFLC) is Not Really Against Microsoft GitHub, It Helps IBM/Red Hat Outsource GNU to GitHub Using the Same Excuses Microsoft Used When Lobbying for Kernel.org to Move to Proprietary GitHub | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/18/mark-j-wielaard-and-sourceware/ [21:28] schestowitz[TR] They played around with investor money and now they fire people [21:28] mixling another detail, SFC B. Kuhn authored various Perl6 software... fyi i decided to roll-back perl to v5.8 (year 2003) [21:28] schestowitz[TR] wait [21:28] schestowitz[TR] you missed a key part [21:28] schestowitz[TR] many fo those employees were ther investors [21:28] schestowitz[TR] they gave them a salary [21:28] schestowitz[TR] and that was tied to the stock [21:28] schestowitz[TR] so if the stock falls 50% [21:28] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: The alleged business model of DotCom Bubble 2.0 was basically the same as DotCom Bubble 1.0. It went on longer due to the Fed being more willing to play along and the ad industry sharpening their tools so they would know how to target people more efficiently. [21:28] DaemonFC But it's still going SPLAT. [21:28] schestowitz[TR] then the workers can lose half their savings [21:29] schestowitz[TR] I told you [21:29] schestowitz[TR] they bbuy back their own share [21:29] schestowitz[TR] take bailouts [21:29] schestowitz[TR] and fake their value using staff's money (salaries) [21:29] schestowitz[TR] it's a self-feeding loop [21:29] schestowitz[TR] Enron did not end [21:29] schestowitz[TR] it became the norm [21:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: I was telling you about the Retirement SAVERS Credit. [21:30] DaemonFC You can lose up to 75% of your investment and not "lose", because your employer match and the IRS step up to subsidize doing it. [21:31] schestowitz[TR] btw, rms is not the one deciding the fsf awards [21:31] schestowitz[TR] there is a committee [21:31] schestowitz[TR] they also gave deb icaza an award [21:31] schestowitz[TR] and de raadt [21:31] schestowitz[TR] and bkuhn [21:31] schestowitz[TR] before sfc attacked rms again [21:31] schestowitz[TR] give sfc man award [21:31] mixling as an outsider to USA and their cartells, i see this: GPL and non-GPL corporate entities hack and slay each other with technical sabotage and legal actions taken against each other [21:31] schestowitz[TR] 2 weeks pass, he attacks you again [21:32] starstreak this is supposed to be RMS: https://i.imgur.com/HSdHxXE.png [21:32] schestowitz[TR] that award needs to be abolished [21:32] mixling and what arrives on my desk finally, is a giant mountain of chaotic clusterfuck [21:32] DaemonFC Theo de Raadt has done actual things to improve "Linux" security. [21:32] DaemonFC mjg59_ just stuffs it with Microsoft crap like a Thanksgiving turkey [21:33] mixling which is software quality often, i am not willing anymore to accept for private use [21:33] schestowitz[TR] hisa rgument with rms was not about gnu logos [21:33] schestowitz[TR] it was about philosophy and licensing iirc [21:33] DaemonFC mjg59_ is more of a narcissist than Theo and with less actual accomplishments to back any of it up. [21:33] mixling didn't Theo too receive an award... ? [21:33] schestowitz[TR] yes [21:34] schestowitz[TR] also de icaza [21:34] DaemonFC They would have given him one sooner. [21:34] schestowitz[TR] this whole award is a major embarassment [21:34] DaemonFC Except politics. [21:34] schestowitz[TR] like a quarter of the awards go to enemies of the fsf [21:34] DaemonFC I think RMS himself stepped in and delayed Theo's. [21:34] mixling yes, theo too received an FSF award [21:34] DaemonFC Many people who got the Free Software Award in the earlier days deserved it. [21:35] DaemonFC Now it's just a bunch of Transexuals, mjg59_, and lawyers. [21:35] DaemonFC Oh, and very predictive of how close to Microsoft's orbit you are. [21:35] mixling and i see, Alan Cox too received it, and terminated with Linux Kernel develoment [21:37] DaemonFC They dole it out to saboteurs and people who make it obvious that nobody even bordering on normality need apply. [21:37] DaemonFC Oh, and lawyers, because lawyers write a lot of Free Software! [21:38] mixling my argument is another one: the fact competent software developers who dedicate their entire life to free software, and see it wrecked finally by corporate slaying [21:38] mixling this makes it worse, not any better those who deserved an award received it [21:39] DaemonFC You have to be very careful when hiring anyone who is a member of a minority group, because if you go to fire them later for performance reasons or because they are going against the goals of your organization, they'll scream it's because of discrimination. [21:40] TR News "This post marks the ending of my GSoC'22 journey with GNOME. I worked on the database migration and managing user model for the GNOME Health Application. Let's take a deep dive into the project." https://dev.to/amankrx/gsoc-2022-with-gnome-final-report-2hf7 [21:40] TR Bot GSoC 2022 with GNOME: Final Report - DEV Community [21:40] DaemonFC Then they wonder why it's so much harder for them to find a job even though literally nobody cares that they're trans or something. [21:40] DaemonFC It's hard because nobody wants the "press" about "he fired me because I was trans!". [21:41] mixling DaemonFC: how are your tranny problems related to any of this? [21:42] DaemonFC Well, I'm saying that people attacked Stallman for being "anti-trans" because he had to fire like one person who happened to be "trans" and it wasn't even about that. [21:42] DaemonFC So what do they expect? Hiring managers see them and they see that and they go "We'll call you." when they otherwise maybe would have been hired. [21:42] DaemonFC It's affirmative action in general though. This is what it does. [21:42] TR News DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.05: New Web Browser Ladybird, Plasma for TV and More https://debugpointnews.com/weekly-roundup-22-05/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//debugpointnews.com/weekly-roundup-22-05/ [21:42] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://debugpointnews.com/weekly-roundup-22-05/ ) [21:43] DaemonFC It locks minorities out of job opportunities because everyone knows what happens when you have to fire like one person and they make it all about race or being trans or something. [21:43] schestowitz[TR] being woman too [21:43] schestowitz[TR] (btw) [21:43] schestowitz[TR] a lot more common [21:44] DaemonFC So hiring managers hang up a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion sign and you hardly see any black people or trans people there. [21:44] schestowitz[TR] lawsuits over discrimination [21:44] DaemonFC Just the minimum to say they have some. [21:44] schestowitz[TR] you don't need to go as far as tiny niche [21:44] mixling which is a 50% chance to hit [21:44] schestowitz[TR] women getting hired into a workplace with many men can becomne a risk [21:45] schestowitz[TR] but anyway, this is a bit far astray and off topic [21:45] schestowitz[TR] it's not a tech issue [21:45] schestowitz[TR] it happens in every sector [21:46] DaemonFC Yeah, my car insurance agent is a black guy. GEICO has a DEI policy, but they don't care who their agents are because they're not employed. [21:46] DaemonFC They're contractors. [21:46] DaemonFC No risk. [21:46] schestowitz[TR] in many sectors men are a tiny minority [21:46] *starstreak loves pandoc [21:47] TR News AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux https://wccftech.com/amd-brings-ray-tracing-support-in-its-open-source-vulkan-graphics-drivers-for-rdna-2-gpus-in-linux/ Source: WCCF Tech [21:47] TR Bot AMD Brings Ray Tracing Support In Its Open-Source Vulkan Graphics Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs In Linux [21:50] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/qe72kVk.mp4 [21:51] starstreak gnome 43 has a negative change :( [21:51] starstreak https://149366088.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/nautilus-43-options-840x507.jpg [21:52] starstreak "open in console" instead of "open in terminal", i don't want to use gnome console because you can't change the font size or configure anything. i want to use gnome terminal. [21:56] XRevan86 https://blog.ablaze.one/2425/2022-09-17/ [21:56] TR Bot Floorp Browser v.10.5.0 Release Notes | ABlog [21:57] XRevan86 More weirdness in this world. [21:59] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 18 [22:07] DaemonFC Most GNOME releases have a negative change. [22:07] DaemonFC They don't want to support features so the code gets ripped out and they don't care how many people say they were using that. [22:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: I've added Pale Moon to my Web browser collection. [22:08] DaemonFC It seems a little bit more capable of dealing with recent Web site updates than SeaMonkey, and still supports XUL extensions. [22:09] DaemonFC So you _can_ install a fork of ChatZilla called Ambassador. Which is where ChatZilla in SeaMonkey is getting most of its patches to stay current anyway. [22:09] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@3xbzx5irvrpcs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:09] techuser hi [22:09] *highest_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed) [22:09] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:09] *highest_cubist_thrills (~highest_cubist_thri@3xbzx5irvrpcs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:22] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/18/fedora-pushing-firmware-updates-directly-from-microsoft-which-ban-grub-bootloaders-that-they-dont-like/ [22:22] TR Bot Fedora pushing firmware updates directly from Microsoft which ban GRUB bootloaders that they dont like. | BaronHK's Rants [22:23] MinceR 18 225128 < starstreak> gnome 43 has a negative change :( [22:23] MinceR yes, it's gnome [22:23] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2]: Disabling LVFS stops Microsoft from pushing dbx updates. [22:24] MinceR > you can't change the font size or configure anything. [22:24] MinceR that's the "modern" way [22:24] DaemonFC AFAICT, there's nothing else on my computer that is getting updates through LVFS, so it seems to be a Microsoft backdoor and not much else in my case. [22:24] MinceR if you don't like it, don't use a "modern" UI. [22:31] mixling finally tagged the gcc47 profile, tested again, some cross-compilation paths succeed, which these do again [22:31] mixling had to patch and hack some builds, for tcc-toolchain, which wasn't compatible anymore [22:31] mixling and, the tcc-toolchain distro devdrop with aarch32 userspace, too works [22:32] mixling finally, next week i will try to repair any libc compiling with tcc-toolchain, and linux-2.4 kernel for x86(64) [22:33] mixling a nice side-effect, of c++ removal and the roll-back strategy to something barely acceptable as free software [22:33] mixling no need to bother with any of the "innovation" and "news" [22:34] mixling with linux-2.4, i'll test first, if this kernel successfully boots with an AMD/lenovo laptop from year 2013 [22:35] mixling another nice side effect, if it doesn't, some hardware from year 2008 won't be expensive [22:36] DaemonFC The idea of letting some idiot like mjg59_ decide what runs on my PC is too offensive to even think about. [22:36] DaemonFC His head is so far up Microsoft's ass it's impossible to say where they end and he begins. [22:37] mixling it's two distros essentially: 1) gcc-4.7 c-only toolchain profile and 2) tcc-toolchain [22:37] highest_cubist_thrills gnome has both kinds of music [22:37] highest_cubist_thrills country, AND western [22:37] mixling gcc47 remains frozen/archived for all eternity as it is [22:38] mixling with tcc-toolchain, which is the _final_ target to proceed with, i decided to remove _all_ GNU autotools/automake and anything which depends on this [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills actually i should rephrase that [22:38] highest_cubist_thrills i dont hate listening to frank sinatra [22:38] mixling guess how much remains then? [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills but in the epic rap battle, freddie mercury said his music was "like a soundtrack to a vasectomy" [22:39] highest_cubist_thrills and thats what gnome has [22:40] highest_cubist_thrills except without it serving any useful purpose, because at least a vasectomy is functional [22:40] mixling GNOME just isn't the type of software i want [22:40] MinceR well, vasectomy removes functionality, which is very "modern" [22:40] mixling i mean, almost 30 years ago, when MICROS~1 introduced win311, this was the first thing i removed [22:40] starstreak I don't want Files to launch Gnome Console :( [22:40] starstreak Otherwise I love gnome [22:40] mixling i _always_ hated this type of software [22:40] MinceR stop using Files? [22:40] highest_cubist_thrills youre so weird [22:41] starstreak Files is awesome tho [22:41] MinceR yeah, i can see that [22:41] MinceR it's so "awesome" you can't even pick what terminal emulator you want to open [22:41] mixling and how is GNOME any different to win311, with it's design? or any better than win311? how much progress is it since then? [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills that i could get around [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills id delete gnome console and copy another term into the same name [22:41] starstreak hmmm [22:41] highest_cubist_thrills one of my favourite "you should never do this, stop it" tricks [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills i never configure a window manager [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills its usually trivial [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills i cannot be bothered [22:42] starstreak i might replace gnome [22:42] starstreak enlightenment looks good [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills i rename the default one [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills then i copy the window manager i want to the same name [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills and then its done [22:42] starstreak theres also KDE [22:42] mixling another win311++ [22:42] highest_cubist_thrills now i can think of reasons not to do it this way [22:43] highest_cubist_thrills none of which apply to my uses [22:43] starstreak i hate gnome now! i better wipe arch linux and install freedos/win311 [22:43] MinceR don't get too used to KDE, they've already capitulated to Gnome OS [22:43] starstreak MinceR, in what way? [22:43] highest_cubist_thrills i use david icke os btw [22:43] MinceR they announced KDE5 would depend on cancerd [22:43] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, Reptilian Linucks? [22:43] MinceR afaik it does "support" cancerd, though for now you probably have the option to run it on other OS-es [22:43] highest_cubist_thrills gnuanderthals vs reptilinux [22:44] starstreak is cancerd = systemd? [22:44] MinceR yes [22:44] starstreak i still like systemd [22:44] MinceR that's your problem [22:44] starstreak lol [22:44] MinceR systemd inflexibly insists on broken behavior just like gnome does [22:44] highest_cubist_thrills systemd is a disturbing kink [22:44] mixling dbus cannot easily be removed from QT, and KDE does need it, always, everywhere [22:44] highest_cubist_thrills like people who want to be lightly tortured with a cheese grater [22:44] MinceR dbus is also broken by design [22:44] starstreak maybe there will be a gnome extension that lets me use gnome terminal instead of console [22:44] highest_cubist_thrills but its their right, its just disturbing [22:45] mixling MinceR: broken how? [22:45] MinceR unless gnome decides it's part of their "brand" [22:45] MinceR see also people trying to change the look of the panel [22:45] highest_cubist_thrills systemd and gnome are like jim and pam [22:45] highest_cubist_thrills they were literally made for each other, its GOING to happen after enough seasons [22:45] MinceR mixling: it's designed so that clients can't deal with the server being restarted -- by design, you're supposed to reboot to restart dbugs [22:45] highest_cubist_thrills actually let me rephrase that [22:45] highest_cubist_thrills theyre like kelly and ryan [22:45] MinceR this might be OK on a toy OS like windows [22:45] mixling ls -lah /usr/bin/dvtm [22:45] MinceR but it does not belong on a server or a workstation [22:45] highest_cubist_thrills no matter how much you try to intervene, the worst possible outcome is going to happen [22:45] mixling file size 280K [22:46] starstreak ill probably end up switching to KDE [22:46] MinceR of course, on cancerd, you're supposed to reboot all the time anyway [22:46] starstreak gotta reboot for kernel updates anyway [22:46] DaemonFC I actually got banned from Libera Chat again, basically for saying Tor is a giant honeypot. [22:46] MinceR Gnome OS has functionality to reboot for updates that don't need rebooting [22:46] MinceR all the better to emulate windows [22:47] DaemonFC And even the people who the prosecutors dismiss charges against are not safe because most of them have committed crimes that have no statute of limitations, so the government is free to pursue charges again as long as they're still alive. [22:47] MinceR and when you're dying i'll be still alive [22:47] DaemonFC So as soon as the browser vulnerabilities the FBI doesn't want to disclose now are no longer relevant, it still has the ability to go after those people if it wants to. [22:47] MinceR and when you're dead i'll be still alive [22:47] highest_cubist_thrills say youre fed up with arch amd gnome and that youre headin out to hollywood [22:47] starstreak there is an extension that will let me open gnome-terminal from Files [22:48] MinceR lol [22:48] highest_cubist_thrills girl youve given me that line so many times it starts to feel like hearing bad lucks good [22:48] mixling btw, those 280K for dvtm terminal multiplexer, that's statically linked, the entire "window manager" of mine [22:48] starstreak the extension lets you choose a terminal [22:48] MinceR i wonder how many gnome releases will it take to break that extension [22:48] mixling /usr/bin/yaft, thast another 270K, and this too includes some unifcode font-set [22:48] MinceR and not have it updated ever again [22:48] highest_cubist_thrills the extension lets you choose a terminal <- thats some kde 4 shit right there [22:48] MinceR yeah [22:48] highest_cubist_thrills when they started doing that i was done [22:48] MinceR KDE jumped the shark with 4.0 [22:48] MinceR it also nuked the fridge [22:48] highest_cubist_thrills i think they did more than jump it [22:49] highest_cubist_thrills i think they did some other things to that shark [22:49] mixling yaft, statically linked, including unicode font, to show russian hieroglyphs, 270K [22:49] MinceR :> [22:49] starstreak my friend uses the extension to launch xfce4-terminal from Files [22:49] highest_cubist_thrills things roy would never approve of in a comic or fanfic [22:49] MinceR i don't think russians use hieroglyphs [22:49] starstreak KDE 4 was nice [22:49] highest_cubist_thrills things there would be an sjw brigade about on neocities [22:49] XRevan86 starstreak: What is this "GNOME Console" ye are speaking of? [22:49] MinceR it was "modern" [22:49] highest_cubist_thrills PROSHIP IS NOT OKAY!!!1111 [22:49] MinceR it was shiny, broken and feature-poor [22:49] mixling oh, i forgot something to include into the frozen/archived gcc47 profile: vis editor [22:49] starstreak XRevan86, its a new terminal emulator that was released with Gnome 42 [22:50] highest_cubist_thrills i don't think russians use hieroglyph <- they dont want you to know what theyre doing [22:50] highest_cubist_thrills its all going on in the bunker [22:50] mixling Vim has grown really fat... i'll miss some features of vim plugins available, when using vis editor [22:50] MinceR i know what they're doing [22:50] MinceR i've learned a bit of russian [22:50] XRevan86 Is "hieroglyph" defined as "non-Latin"? [22:50] MinceR afaik hieroglyph is a particular kind of ideographic writing [22:50] mixling yes, i'll relax another day tomorrow, and replace Vim with vis... not sure yet if vis editor suffices, it should [22:51] MinceR just use a magnet, a needle and a steady hand [22:51] starstreak acme or gtfo [22:51] highest_cubist_thrills the egyptians werent ideos, they were just crazy [22:51] XRevan86 > A hieroglyph (Greek for "sacred carvings") was a character of the ancient Egyptian writing system. Logographic scripts that are pictographic in form in a way reminiscent of ancient Egyptian are also sometimes called "hieroglyphs". [22:51] MinceR or use emacs and M-x butterfly [22:51] mixling vis editor, was written by the same developer, who implemented dvtm, m. a. tanner [22:52] highest_cubist_thrills /me was disappointed when he found out M-x butterfly wasnt a sex move [22:52] MinceR :> [22:52] MinceR i use M-x spook a lot more anyway [22:52] highest_cubist_thrills i wonder if theres a club in boston where they have an emacs themed dungeon [22:52] highest_cubist_thrills i mean it already abuses your fingers [22:52] XRevan86 starstreak: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/blob/2.74.0/gio/gdesktopappinfo.c#L2657-L2702 So that's concerning. [22:52] TR Bot gio/gdesktopappinfo.c 2.74.0 GNOME / GLib GitLab [22:52] highest_cubist_thrills just take it from there [22:53] mixling i'll certainly need a day or two, to adapt to yet another editor variant [22:53] XRevan86 GNOME Console is not in the list. [22:53] XRevan86 So they hardcoded it elsewhere. [22:53] highest_cubist_thrills i would use emacs if i had three hands [22:53] DaemonFC We have no idea how the US government unmasks Tor users, but since the largest attack surface other than maybe social engineering, is the Tor Browser, which is basically Firefox. [22:53] starstreak XRevan86, prurigro has an extension that lets you pick a terminal [22:53] DaemonFC And the biggest attack surface in Firefox is Active Content, which includes codecs and JavaScript. [22:53] highest_cubist_thrills actually the key combos are only my second biggest gripe about emacs [22:54] mixling DaemonFC: i wouldn't trust firefox a minute, even when all cookies, javascript etc. were disabled [22:54] DaemonFC If you turn the Security Slider to the Safest setting, you're undoubtedly better protected. Tor claims it ships without these protections because it wants users to have more "Web features". [22:54] highest_cubist_thrills it has the least intuitive arrangement / management of buffers that ive ever seen in anything, ever [22:54] DaemonFC But once you go past static site content, you're really not that secure anymore, so what's the point of the Tor bundle in this configuration? [22:55] mixling i keep w3m/lynx/links and mask the user-agent string [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills if someone had said "what should we call this editor" emacs would be called "what the hell am i doing" [22:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills to me [22:55] DaemonFC Once you use Tor -and- disable Active Content, Clownflare really starts fucking with you. [22:55] highest_cubist_thrills id use vim, but yknow, github [22:55] DaemonFC That's how you know you're onto something, right? [22:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:56] highest_cubist_thrills /me has vi but only uses it in emergencies [22:56] mixling highest_cubist_thrills: would be curious about a seccond opinion on vis-editor [22:56] mixling i had not tried it yet [22:56] mixling however, will try, to fully remove Vim and replace it with tivs [22:56] mixling with vis [22:57] highest_cubist_thrills using vi isnt a sin, its a penance <- rms [22:57] highest_cubist_thrills but emacs isnt an editor, its a kink [22:57] mixling vis editor integrated into dvtm terminal multiplexer... it's modular [22:58] MinceR 18 235526 < highest_cubist_thrills> if someone had said "what should we call this editor" emacs would be called "what the hell am i doing" [22:58] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, nano is hosted on savannah [22:58] MinceR EMACS stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift [22:58] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lFzdqlZGcw8 [22:58] TR Bot Patrick MacNee & Honor Blackman - Kinky Boots - Invidious [22:58] highest_cubist_thrills highest_cubist_thrills, nano is hosted on savannah <- yeah but the author is a traitor [22:58] MinceR emacs isn't an editor, it's an operating system [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills at least it doesnt use systemd yet [22:59] mixling i refrain from EMACS for the following reasons: the dependency graph, emacs and dependencies is HUGE [22:59] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, oh because of the cancel rms thing? [22:59] mixling it's grown too fat [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills because of the cancel rms thing [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills i only emailed a couple traitors about that [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills the author of nano was one of them [22:59] highest_cubist_thrills it wasnt a nice email [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 64.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 160.18 ● Sep 18 [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills it also wasnt long winded. which no one would believe, but its true nonetheless [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills short and to the point: go fuck yourself [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills long winded: and this is why... [23:00] starstreak lol [23:00] highest_cubist_thrills i was short and to the point [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills the other guy was todd someone from openbsd and sudo [23:01] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/cash-advance-apps-vs-payday-loans-which-is-better/ [23:01] TR Bot Cash advance apps vs. payday loans: Which is better? | WGN-TV [23:01] DaemonFC I answered: The universe where Biden wasn't passing trillion dollar spending bills every week and stealing 25% of your savings/earnings just to buy the same stuff as last year. [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills he was the only openbsd guy on the list [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills netbsd and freebsd had more [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills debian had the most [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills gnome was up there [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills roy said no, gnome foundation [23:01] mixling GNU could be renamed to this GNU is NOT POSIX: GNOPIX [23:01] highest_cubist_thrills but there was shitloads of gnome, more than gnome foundation [23:02] starstreak im not going to stop using software because of that [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills most people wouldnt [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills but i dont want their shit [23:02] starstreak fair enough [23:02] starstreak thats your freedom [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills its bad enough i have to use tor and gnupg [23:02] highest_cubist_thrills thats your freedom <- it was, when things were still modular [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills but now they try to glue everything into a blob like systemd and gnome [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills at least arch isnt like that [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills i mean their init is [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills but arch is like [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills if you cut its leg off [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills now its just arch-without-a-leg [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills arch is like honey badger [23:03] highest_cubist_thrills and honey badger dont care [23:03] starstreak i was ready to switch to englightenment or kde because of gnome 43, but there is a plugin that lets me switch terminals in Files [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills a plugin :) [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills fuck this world lol [23:04] starstreak lol [23:04] starstreak i love gnome [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills whhyyyyyy [23:04] MinceR why rename GNU? it's dead anyway [23:04] starstreak i dont know, because its like macOS [23:04] highest_cubist_thrills heh heh [23:06] starstreak you know why my options were enlightenment or KDE? [23:06] starstreak wayland support [23:06] highest_cubist_thrills why rename GNU? it's dead anyway <- ex parrot / blobbix [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills wayland support <- XD [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills misanthrope os [23:07] starstreak lol [23:07] highest_cubist_thrills i hate humanity, thats why i made this distro [23:08] starstreak enlightenment is good because its lightweight and flashy af [23:08] highest_cubist_thrills in theory i agree [23:08] highest_cubist_thrills in practice, i dont even want window management [23:08] starstreak ahh i do [23:08] highest_cubist_thrills i just want software to get off my lawn [23:08] starstreak ok boomer :P [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills rofl [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills boomer os [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills its just emacs and a pair of jumper wires [23:09] MinceR lol waylandows [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills what are the jumper wires for [23:09] starstreak i thought boomer os was debian/devuan stable [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills youll figure it out [23:09] MinceR lol @ enlightenment being lightweight [23:09] highest_cubist_thrills debian stable is an oxymoron now [23:10] starstreak MinceR, maybe not as lightweight as fvwm or icewm [23:10] highest_cubist_thrills there is only sid [23:10] MinceR even the wm-s early gnome and kde used were faster than enlightenment [23:10] highest_cubist_thrills when someone says "i like gnome" you can expect them to also say things like "enlightenment is lightweight" [23:10] MinceR yeah [23:10] highest_cubist_thrills which is true, if gnome is not an abomination [23:11] mixling GNOME is the Win311 of GNU/Linux [23:11] highest_cubist_thrills but i have no beef with enlightment, i just think its funny [23:11] MinceR no, gnome is the macos gui of systemd/linux [23:11] starstreak lol [23:11] starstreak i loved macos [23:11] highest_cubist_thrills honestly, id rather use macos than systemd or gnome [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills but i dont want a mac [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills those things are garbage now [23:12] starstreak i want an M2 Mac Mini [23:12] starstreak Linus Torvalds runs a M2 Macbook Air with Fedora on it [23:12] highest_cubist_thrills torvalds is an idiot [23:13] starstreak https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-talks-rust-on-linux-his-work-schedule-and-life-with-his-m2-macbook-air/ [23:13] TR Bot Torvalds talks Rust on Linux, his work schedule and life with his M2 MacBook Air | ZDNET [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills exactly [23:13] starstreak I would run macOS on it [23:13] starstreak cuz i love it [23:13] highest_cubist_thrills /me tsks [23:13] starstreak lol [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills if britney and i got married, the whole thing would consist almost exclusively of her saying "look what i installed, its so cool" [23:14] MinceR torvalds is a hostage [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills and me going "tsk" [23:14] starstreak lol [23:14] starstreak "look what I made in iMovie" [23:14] highest_cubist_thrills /me covers his eyes [23:15] mixling there's that much money at stake [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills no id watch it, its just this text on my screen... [23:15] starstreak i had a college project where i had to make a movie and i learned how to do it in 2 days with iMovie with zero video editing experience [23:15] mixling whom of the industry pioneers could speak out load without fear for their live? [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills imovie is good that way [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills holy shit did i say that [23:15] highest_cubist_thrills but seriously though [23:15] starstreak lol [23:16] starstreak i tried kdenlive and no [23:16] starstreak its garbage [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills no i wasnt kidding [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills well it has kde in it [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills so thats a dealbreaker [23:16] starstreak lol [23:16] starstreak openshot was garbage too [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills mono i think [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills even worse than kde [23:16] starstreak python actually, and python is garbage [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills ahhhh [23:16] highest_cubist_thrills well, python 3 is [23:17] starstreak python 2.x and 3.x [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills youre going nuclear on the trolling here [23:17] starstreak im not trolling when i say python is garbage [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills why is it garbage [23:17] starstreak the syntax [23:17] DaemonFC Under Biden, this country is backsliding into something you hear about people in Europe complaining about. Like, what their margarine and coffee ration is for the week. [23:17] highest_cubist_thrills whats wrong with the syntax [23:18] starstreak whitespace enforcement? wtf [23:18] MinceR can you form whole arguments at all? [23:18] starstreak why is there no "go fmt" equivalent [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills can you form whole arguments at all? <- she has way more fun not doing so [23:18] DaemonFC If he's not gone soon, or at least if his party doesn't lose control of Congress and stop passing trillion dollar climate and welfare packages with money we don't have every week, we're screwed. [23:18] highest_cubist_thrills no one needs to explain trolling to mincer [23:18] starstreak ok maybe python isn't garbage, i just don't like it for stylistic reasons [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills why is there no "go fmt" equivalent <- i am not familiar with go fmt [23:19] starstreak go fmt will format your code to make it more readable [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills though at a guess, go did not exist in the 1990s [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills when python development started [23:19] mixling DaemonFC: even then, this isn't an excuse to wreck the entire tech industry [23:19] highest_cubist_thrills and contrary to popular belief, python does not integrate every single idea it can find on reddit, only 99% of them [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills go fmt will format your code to make it more readable <- obviously with python 3 that is impossible [23:20] starstreak lol [23:20] DaemonFC "Welfare" is basically code for dumping a lot of money on people who don't even work so they'll have more kids to get more money from the government. [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills being unfamiliar with go im not sure what you consider readable [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills also you have a lot of opinions about code for someone who doesnt code much [23:20] DaemonFC It's not what people think it is if they know nothing about the system. Like, a little help while they go look for employment. [23:20] highest_cubist_thrills which is fine, but amusing [23:21] MinceR hy improves the syntax of python [23:21] MinceR but i prefer common lisp [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills /me is not entirely in love with python syntax anyway [23:21] starstreak is "its not golang" a good reason? [23:21] starstreak LOL [23:21] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, https://i.imgur.com/ixDYXaj.jpg [23:21] DaemonFC The government does nothing to help single and unmarried people because it considers them useless except to soak with all of the taxes to cover people who do nothing but get pregnant all the time. [23:21] highest_cubist_thrills is "its not golang" a good reason? <- not entirely [23:22] DaemonFC Single people without any kids always get fucked the worst by government. [23:22] starstreak someone on discord told me golang was trash because it wasn't rust [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills thats nonsense [23:22] starstreak XD [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills not being rust is a feature [23:22] DaemonFC Even getting married lets you up for a little bit of air because one spouse usually earns a lot less than the other and the average tax bill goes down a bit. [23:22] starstreak everyone has their fav language [23:22] DaemonFC But mostly, the only people doing well are the ones popping out units. [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills if someone tells me rust is great, i offer to tell them about the book of mormon [23:22] highest_cubist_thrills thats a fair fight [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills hello, my name is elder white, and i would like to share with you this most amazing book! [23:23] MinceR 19 002126 < starstreak> is "its not golang" a good reason? [23:23] MinceR lol no generics [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills you can, read all about it now-- its a book about our lord and savior jesus crhist! [23:23] starstreak MinceR, generics were added in 1.18 [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills jesus crhist-- no one tells you about THAT guy [23:23] DaemonFC Things are getting so bad I told a research center that I was interested in a paid study on an experimental blood pressure medication. [23:23] MinceR not being rust is a feature, but so is not being go [23:23] highest_cubist_thrills hes very similar to the christian one [23:24] MinceR starstreak: great, maybe someday it will become a usable language [23:24] DaemonFC It doesn't pay a hell of a lot. Like $1,200. But that's money that can keep things going for a little while. [23:24] MinceR and in general, not being a hipster language is a feature [23:24] highest_cubist_thrills /me covers mouth while laughing [23:24] MinceR and more important, not being a bondage-and-discipline language [23:24] DaemonFC MinceR: Hipsters can also like old stuff that has fallen out of favor. [23:24] MinceR they usually don't [23:24] DaemonFC Vinyl records? [23:25] DaemonFC CRT televisions? [23:25] MinceR dunno about the CRTs [23:25] starstreak i also noticed something in vscode, when I save a .go file it runs go fmt on the code [23:25] starstreak i had some messy code that got fixed when i hit save [23:25] XRevan86 "go fmt" <- Uh like autopep8? [23:25] MinceR why let you edit your own code at all? [23:26] MinceR they obviously know better [23:26] mixling vis-editor, based on plan9... inferno OS [23:26] mixling why was this named inferno? [23:27] starstreak mixling, nice :D [23:27] starstreak i like plan9/inferno [23:27] mixling research *nix [23:27] highest_cubist_thrills starstreak: fixed https://i.ibb.co/tCKWLY0/ixDYXaj.jpg [23:28] starstreak highest_cubist_thrills, lol [23:28] highest_cubist_thrills /me had to pull out the old 2mp camera from the same bin [23:28] starstreak a 20 year old camera lol [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills this digital camera is so old, you have to take the card out of it and send it in the post to be processed [23:29] highest_cubist_thrills then they send the photos back on a cd rom [23:29] starstreak i have a nice 10MP canon digital camera but it eats batteries [23:30] mixling and there's still some sources and software floating around, which isn't GNU, which isn't BSD [23:30] starstreak my phone has a better camera [23:30] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: https://i.ibb.co/tCKWLY0/ixDYXaj.jpg <- https://youtu.be/BP-1mHpZ5ag?t=160 [23:30] TR Bot NO TITLE [23:30] mixling MIT licensed... no clue, isn't RMS from MIT? [23:31] mixling however, RMS promotes the GNU monstrosities, not some niche MIT stuff [23:31] highest_cubist_thrills friendship is magic :) [23:31] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: Nope, it's the new one %). [23:31] highest_cubist_thrills wow [23:31] highest_cubist_thrills never seen it [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills it looks like they got animators on a tighter budget [23:32] mixling and all the others, GNU/FSF/SFC/GNOME whoever... often distros don't bundle some MIT-licensed things at all [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills or theyre going for something retro [23:32] mixling catgirl irc client, is one such goodie [23:32] highest_cubist_thrills because its definitely lost visual depth [23:33] mixling dvtm terminal multiplexer, yaft terminal [23:33] XRevan86 After the (pretty decent) film they're airing two series: one simple and short on YouTube for free and the other will be 3D Maya and will air soon. [23:33] mixling that's all neat software [23:33] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: So that's the simple free one. [23:33] highest_cubist_thrills i havent followed this show since the divorce [23:33] DaemonFC mixling: The tech industry should be ruined. [23:33] highest_cubist_thrills but there will always be a place in my heart for twilight sparkle, however many wings and horns and shit she grows [23:34] DaemonFC Ruined to the point that all the crap is cleared out of the system, like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, and Matthew Garrett. [23:34] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: It's not that great, but they've put a good song in there suddenly :) [23:34] DaemonFC And then someone will rebuild you know. [23:34] DaemonFC The knowledge of how to make cheap MIPS or ARM CPUs that run what the user tells it to won't be lost. [23:34] mixling DaemonFC: quality software does exist still, however the niche is extremely small nowadays [23:34] DaemonFC It'll be cheap as dirt. Someone in Taiwan will make them. [23:34] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: "however many wings and horns and shit she grows" <- Considering that the new series is "distant future" odds are she's dead :P [23:35] XRevan86 Unless she's immortal. [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills yes, talk about nazis and eugenics and white flight, but we draw the line at brony conspiracies [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills Unless she's immortal <- i mean [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills okay [23:35] highest_cubist_thrills but they still make new films about alan turing. [23:35] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: Right, but she definitely won't grow any new appendices after that. [23:36] highest_cubist_thrills granted hes at least twice as important as twilight sparkle. [23:36] mixling somehow, i think, it's better to keep out certain people and mindset, who enjoy their comfort among GNU/FSF/SFC/GNOME etc. [23:36] highest_cubist_thrills but she definitely won't grow any new appendices after that <- thats okay, it was getting a bit much [23:36] highest_cubist_thrills i mean if she needs any more of them its probably only for slashfics [23:36] mixling to avoid them wrecking the last remaining little pieces there is [23:36] highest_cubist_thrills PROSHIP IS NOT OKAY! [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills fucking neocities :) [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills /me draws a unicorn horn and wings on alan turing [23:37] highest_cubist_thrills based! [23:38] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:39] highest_cubist_thrills https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xmo1oDgQmhM [23:39] TR Bot Princess Unicorn | Official Commercial - Invidious [23:39] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: "thats okay, it was getting a bit much" <- Reminded me of https://youtu.be/vWIJPe912ic [23:39] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=vWIJPe912ic [23:39] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | Alicorn Day - Invidious [23:40] starstreak Ronnie!!!! [23:40] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: I'm sure Princess Unicorn knows how to defend herself. [23:42] highest_cubist_thrills I'm sure Princess Unicorn knows how to defend herself. <- buzzfeed was selling them at events because she also has a tazer mode [23:42] mixling apropos MIPS... i am yet not aware of any opensource-hardware which could be fully deployed to an FPGA, includign USB1, ethernet, VGA [23:43] mixling to boot linux-2.4, and the package set of mine compiled with a sane toolchain, such as tcc [23:43] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: "yes, talk about nazis and eugenics and white flight, but we draw the line at brony conspiracies" <- No matter how much we can talk about the magical land of Equestria the one living in an imaginary world would still be aggi :) [23:44] mixling i mean, if a MIPS SoC on FPGA, operated at 100MHz or something, with 256MiB DRAM, that's affordable and available with FGPA, although not cheap [23:44] highest_cubist_thrills /me still thinks ergodan sounds like a product only dentists can buy [23:44] *techuser (~techuser@6v8cjbvydcdre.irc) has joined #techrights [23:44] mixling and it could suffice, for some *nix development system, self-hosting, to compiler/bootstrap itself [23:44] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: ergo dan :D [23:44] highest_cubist_thrills jeph jaques voice: hi, ergo dan [23:45] mixling and currently, there isn't any tested toolchain other than tcc, to consider with such an opensource system [23:46] mixling and GNU/FSF/SFC won't convince me, running gcc or llvm on an opensource hardware SoC deployed to FPGA was desireable [23:46] mixling but they're that much freedom activists, they probably know better than me [23:47] *techuser has quit (connection closed) [23:47] mixling tcc doesn't support MIPS (no blame intended), it just rules out another candidate [23:47] mixling of an opensource hardware SoC [23:48] mixling with ao486, there is other problems, including the fact i486 isn't particularly efficient when deploying to FPGA [23:49] mixling and currently this is the only interesection of opensource hardware and tcc-toolchain support i am aware of: x86 [23:49] *techuser (~techuser@6hizd2epjzzqw.irc) has joined #techrights [23:50] mixling in the end, what is it worth, an x86 operating at a few dozen MHz, with a few MiB of RAM... this is insufficient with tcc-toolchain even [23:52] mixling what was the latest hot shit GNU/FSF promoted instead? UEFI? [23:52] mixling i mean, the ao486 got some bochs/seabios based 100% opensource BIOS [23:52] techuser wasn't FSF against Secure Boot just a few years ago? [23:54] mixling what are they occupied with all day long at GNU/FSF/SFC whoever? [23:54] techuser promoting "join us now and share the software" [23:54] techuser it is a cult [23:54] highest_cubist_thrills XRevan86 <- Reminded me of <- poor alicorn princess twilight sparkle [23:54] mixling with the man-power and brains behind GNU/FSF, they could have promoted an opensource hardware support approach anytime [23:54] techuser they don't really care [23:55] highest_cubist_thrills me wonders if her powers can shut down github [23:55] XRevan86 highest_cubist_thrills: If they can, she has a moral obligation to do so. [23:55] highest_cubist_thrills ill fix her dresses [23:55] highest_cubist_thrills /me has never seen twilight sparkle in a dress but lets give the benefit of the doubt here [23:56] highest_cubist_thrills /me can sew at like xp 1 level [23:57] highest_cubist_thrills slightly better than playing mlp:fim and leaving something in front of the screen and hoping for the best [23:57] highest_cubist_thrills "i hope raritys in this one" [23:57] highest_cubist_thrills idea: mpl xfiles crossover [23:58] highest_cubist_thrills dear smoking man... [23:58] highest_cubist_thrills today i found some mushrooms in the magical forest [23:58] highest_cubist_thrills there were little green men trying to tell me something [23:58] highest_cubist_thrills it turned out they just needed a friend [23:59] mixling anyway, i'll postpone libc and kernel with tcc-toolchain another few days, and cope with vis-editor next [23:59] mixling this will simplify my life a little more, to know, a decent vi editor variant exists