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DaemonFC[m]Mom's friend Jose, from Mexico, who likes to say "Well I came here the legal way! Why can't they?" ended up in the hospital with it.Dec 18 00:00
DaemonFC[m]The doctors at the hospital didn't give him any FDA approved treatment even though he ended up in the ICU on a ventilator.Dec 18 00:00
DaemonFC[m]No antibodies (while Secretary Azar says we have so many we don't even know what to do with it all), no remdesivir (even though it's relatively cheap by American standards compared with the hospital bill itself and was FDA approved in like June). Nothing,.Dec 18 00:01
DaemonFC[m]And this is the sort of Mickey Mouse operation that Trump is running which is causing twice as many people to die. Dec 18 00:02
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schestowitz 18 00:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JoyceMarkoll: @InterBang @Smackenziekerr how about that? 18 00:20
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 18 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mid-Michigan sees deadliest 10 days of COVID pandemic | News | themorningsun.comDec 18 00:31
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It seems like just getting the first COVID vaccine shot gives decent protection.Dec 18 00:34
DaemonFC[m]They say the worst side effects tend to happen after the second shot.Dec 18 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Wonder if I should just take the first dose.Dec 18 00:35
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schestowitzwhy only the second?Dec 18 00:35
schestowitzif they don't say why, it makes little senseDec 18 00:35
schestowitzunless the second is differentDec 18 00:35
schestowitznot just in dosageDec 18 00:35
schestowitzthat's like saying alcohol is healthyDec 18 00:35
schestowitzjust don't take another glassDec 18 00:36
schestowitzthen it's not healthyDec 18 00:36
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DaemonFC[m]Well, the study participants say that the first shot gave them a sore arm or something like a normal vaccine.Dec 18 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Then after the second part, they got bad chills, headache, fever, all kinds of stuff.Dec 18 00:37
DaemonFC[m]I think that given what we know, the state of Illinois did the right thing by not holding any of the initial doses back for the second shot.Dec 18 00:38
DaemonFC[m]We don't even know what we'll get, really, because the federal government keeps updating it and going you know what....SURPRISE...It's half of what we told you last time.Dec 18 00:40
DaemonFC[m]So the number keeps jumping around because Pfizer can't even deliver on what they already contracted for the first time.Dec 18 00:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, so it sounded like we were going to get a lot and then the election happened and now they're telling us it's going to be a slow drip of shipments.Dec 18 00:41
DaemonFC[m]It's not going to be anything close to the number of shipments where we'll see the virus numbers start to subside for a very long time.Dec 18 00:42
DaemonFC[m]They're saying most people won't be able to get a vaccine shot until next summer.Dec 18 00:42
DaemonFC[m]And 6 months under a siege like this is an eternity and at this rate there won't be many people who haven't already gotten sick and recovered.Dec 18 00:43
DaemonFC[m]Or died.Dec 18 00:43
DaemonFC[m]Trump isn't really coordinating with the Biden administration and so they're still having access getting the facts as they come in about what day 1 is going to look like.Dec 18 00:43
DaemonFC[m]The only reason the GSA backed down and started the transition is that it was becoming clear that the lady running it was going to be in contempt of Congress pretty soon (which either chamber, by itself, can find you in), and those charges would get delivered to Biden's Attorney General in January and she could go to jail over this.Dec 18 00:45
DaemonFC[m]The Democrats were getting ready to hold House hearings about why the transition hadn't started, and if she stonewalled them, the next step would be Contempt.Dec 18 00:45
DaemonFC[m]The only reason why the House didn't pull out Contempt charges against Trump's administration sooner is because they go to the Attorney General who decides whether to pursue or drop them.Dec 18 00:46
DaemonFC[m]The Republicans found Eric Holder in contempt, and Attorney General Eric Holder dismissed the charge.Dec 18 00:47
DaemonFC[m]But now that the clock is running out, they could have definitely found Miss Piggy in Contempt of Congress and eventually landed her in a jail cell.Dec 18 00:47
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DaemonFC[m]She had her moment playing along with Trump's corrupt election fantasy.Dec 18 00:48
DaemonFC[m]Veteran's Affairs hasn't updated in a few days, schestowitz Dec 18 00:50
DaemonFC[m]So that's interesting.Dec 18 00:50
DaemonFC[m]I suppose that when they do, there will be hundreds of deaths that backed up and weren't reported on at the time.Dec 18 00:50
DaemonFC[m]So the reality is it's worse than what it looks like because they usually report about 50-60 a day.Dec 18 00:51
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Electoral-vote dot com is engaging in some sort of fantasy where the economy comes roaring back next year.Dec 18 00:55
DaemonFC[m]Biden doesn't need to do anything, they say, because the vaccine will save us all and this will blow over and then everyone will buy cars and those trips to Disney World they postponed.Dec 18 00:55
DaemonFC[m]They've gone too far with that.Dec 18 00:56
DaemonFC[m]Trump has fucked everything up so bad that the earliest the economy is going to look halfway decent again is 2022.Dec 18 00:56
DaemonFC[m]It's also become a favorite line that we'll recover faster because this recession is differnt.Dec 18 00:58
DaemonFC[m]They're all different than the last one.Dec 18 00:58
DaemonFC[m]Each time you have a recession you go well shit that was bad, and you start taking steps to make sure that something exactly like that doesn't happen again, but it'll be something else.Dec 18 00:59
DaemonFC[m]It's always something else. The economy changes. People figure out new loopholes to work the system and get ahead of themselves.Dec 18 00:59
DaemonFC[m]We have better laws about corporate accounting scandals because of a series of things like Enron, right?Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFC[m]Companies figure out ways to talk that comply with the law but still leave you wondering what the hell is going on in there.Dec 18 01:00
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft has turned everything into clouds and services and that way they only have to speak very broadly on what's going on.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFC[m]Office is not a service from them to you, it's a service from you to them.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFC[m]You keep the money coming and they don't cut you off from the web app that lets you modify document files.Dec 18 01:02
DaemonFC[m]The most pointless web app ever.Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFC[m]LibreOffice, the entire suite, is 500 MB or so on Windows. Half that if you use NTFS compression on its installation folder.Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFC[m]That's...hardly any space at all and you get a real office program.Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFC[m]For $0.Dec 18 01:03
DaemonFC[m]No product activators and works without an internet connection, and it saves files to storage that you control.Dec 18 01:04
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: It's just not a serious programme. Now Oracle DB is bigger than many databases themselves, now that's serious stuff.Dec 18 01:04
DaemonFC[m]Among other things, it's much harder for people to break into the USB stick or external hard drive where you have your document files.Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Bill Gates ironically once said that measuring productivity by amount of code is like saying you made a better airplane because it weighs more. Dec 18 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Now Windows 10, with three web browsers, five terminals, and two control panels is progress apparently.Dec 18 01:06
XRevan86Reminds me of flash sticks inside HDD cases with a steel bold inside to make it weigh more :).Dec 18 01:06
MinceR"if you couldn't make it good, make it big"Dec 18 01:07
DaemonFC[m]"The Classic Control panel has been removed from Windows 10 20H2."Dec 18 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Except you can still bring it up by using explorer.exe shell:::{BB06C0E4-D293-4f75-8A90-CB05B6477EEE}Dec 18 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Everything is still right there.Dec 18 01:11
MinceRclassic microsoftDec 18 01:11
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DaemonFC[m] 18 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mike Pence could ‘go rogue’ when Congress counts electoral votes, election experts warnDec 18 01:13
XRevan86They cleaned it up, by hiding it better.Dec 18 01:13
DaemonFC[m]He said that while it’s unlikely Pence will “go rouge” by asserting his authority to declare results invalid, “[Pence] doesn’t have to go rogue for there to be a complicated situation.”Dec 18 01:13
XRevan86People noticed it under the rug, so it's in the cellar now.Dec 18 01:13
DaemonFC[m]I also think it's unlikely he'll wear makeup to the event.Dec 18 01:13
XRevan86Except people were pulling it from under the rug and using it.Dec 18 01:15
XRevan86so what's even the point of thatDec 18 01:15
MinceR:)Dec 18 01:15
DaemonFC[m] 18 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | An inmate whose scheduled to be executed just 5 days before Biden takes office tested positive for COVID-19Dec 18 01:15
XRevan86I trust this headline that couldn't spell "who's" right.Dec 18 01:17
MinceRclassic microsoftDec 18 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Now MSN is trying to install a dropper on your computer which changes your browser to Edge, sets the search to Bing, installs their "recommended extensions", and sets MSN news as your homepage.Dec 18 01:19
MinceRunderstandable. all of those are more important than learning english.Dec 18 01:20
XRevan86Didn't they fire everyone and leave everything to the machine learning programme? :)Dec 18 01:21
MinceRcould beDec 18 01:21
XRevan86Except why would a programme mix up homophones.Dec 18 01:21
XRevan86It's kind of dirty to call "whose" and "who's" homophones as "who's" is technically not a word but two words.Dec 18 01:22
DaemonFC[m]VLC is in the Windows Store, but warns that it can't play DVDs or Blu Ray discs and to use the desktop app instead.Dec 18 01:23
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: How to you know all these cursed things?Dec 18 01:24
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DaemonFC[m]MSN republished a lot of full news articles that are hidden behind paywalls.Dec 18 01:28
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Oh, that's pretty good.Dec 18 01:29
XRevan86So, that's the great grammerr that one can expect to find behind a paywall? :)Dec 18 01:30
DaemonFC[m]LOLDec 18 01:31
DaemonFC[m]Maybe after he goes rouge he'll try some of Mother's lipstick as well.Dec 18 01:32
XRevan86He whose gone rougeDec 18 01:33
MinceRRouge Angles of SatinDec 18 01:39
DaemonFC[m]I sent this as an email to my dad.Dec 18 01:42
DaemonFC[m]Trump's "Let the bodies hit the floor." COVID strategy exposed.Dec 18 01:42
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Dec 18 01:42
MinceRautoplaying video, behind a GDPR fake popupDec 18 01:44
MinceRstay classy, cnnDec 18 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, what's odd is that Chromium browsers don't let you disable autoplay on the desktop, but on the phone they usually do.Dec 18 01:45
XRevan86MinceR: Totally not recording you before you give your concent.Dec 18 01:45
DaemonFC[m]It's become the buzzing mosquito times a thousand, isn't it?Dec 18 01:45
DaemonFC[m]Remember that? Flash ad. The buzzing mosquito. Everyone complained about it.Dec 18 01:46
MinceRi don't remember thatDec 18 01:46
MinceRi do remember setting something up so that none of the Trash applets would autoplay thoughDec 18 01:46
DaemonFC[m]Now every goddamned time you open a web page something starts talking and half the time it isn't even about the article you want to read.Dec 18 01:46
DaemonFC[m]Blocking autoplay videos might be the only feature Firefox still has.Dec 18 01:47
XRevan86For some reason every Russian news outlet I visit doesn't do that at all.Dec 18 01:47
MinceRadvertisers are so surprised that ad blocking is popularDec 18 01:47
MinceRhungarian news sites i visit don't tend to do it eitherDec 18 01:48
DaemonFC[m]I had one of the first ad blockers of sorts.Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFC[m]It used the hosts file.Dec 18 01:48, OTOH, loves to put massive unrelated videos on top of pages written by othersDec 18 01:48
DaemonFC[m]It was just a list I maintained.Dec 18 01:48
DaemonFC[m]I later found it being used at the basis for Junkbuster lists and stuff.Dec 18 01:49
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The autoplay videos are such an intrusion. Dec 18 01:50
DaemonFC[m]Chrome used to let you turn it off.Dec 18 01:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | jwz: Mac loses ability to play videoDec 18 02:42
DaemonFC[m]"About once a week, macOS 10.15.7 loses the ability to play video. Press play and it goes super-fast-forward all the way to the end. Scrubbing while paused works, but any attempt to play fails in any app using AVPlayer -- not just QuickTime Player, but also jwztv and even "Notes". VLC works, but obviously that doesn't help me."Dec 18 02:42
DaemonFC[m]One person notes that "coreaudiod" used to do this to him a lot and killing it and letting it respawn fixed the problem.Dec 18 02:43
DaemonFC[m]Very reliable Apple product.Dec 18 02:43
DaemonFC[m]It just works.Dec 18 02:43
DaemonFC[m]Professional grade.Dec 18 02:43
MinceRlolDec 18 02:45
MinceRwhat's his problem with VLC? is it not crap enough?Dec 18 02:45
DaemonFC[m]It bypasses crapaudiod and in so doing manages to work.Dec 18 02:46
DaemonFC[m]Very unhelpful.Dec 18 02:46
MinceRhe could use it to watch videoDec 18 02:46
DaemonFC[m]It's open source and seems to keep working even as macOS falls apart around it.Dec 18 02:46
DaemonFC[m]So it must be bad for some reason.Dec 18 02:46
MinceR:>Dec 18 02:46
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Everything that needs to work works. Playing video is just not one of things.Dec 18 02:47
DaemonFC[m]I do. I'm not even sure what Windows uses to play videos and audio.Dec 18 02:47
DaemonFC[m]Don't really give a shit. I'm sure it's horrible.Dec 18 02:47
DaemonFC[m]Always has been.Dec 18 02:48
XRevan86* one of those things :)Dec 18 02:48
MinceRIt Just Needs More Work.™Dec 18 02:48
XRevan86Since CUPS was abandoned by Apple, I wonder what they're planning to do with printing in macOS.Dec 18 02:49
MinceRmaybe they'll just ship the last version of CUPSDec 18 02:50
MinceRor maybe they'll try to create a new "standard" that is only compatible with crApple productsDec 18 02:50
DaemonFC[m]They sort of dumbed down and semi-hid Windows Media Player.Dec 18 02:50
DaemonFC[m]They also changed the default rip format to mp3.Dec 18 02:50
DaemonFC[m]They added a FLAC and an ALAC encoder.Dec 18 02:51
MinceRstrange, i thought MPEG LA couldn't shake people down for using mp3 anymoreDec 18 02:51
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DaemonFC[m]Added WavPack support but it doesn't recognize APEv2 tags.Dec 18 03:03
DaemonFC[m]I suppose you might be able to use id3v1 since WavPack still supports those, but lolDec 18 03:03
DaemonFC[m]Windows Media Player is clearly abandoned.Dec 18 03:12
DaemonFC[m]"Spam this about 20 times until it says no matching process found and wait a few more seconds, then it will be fixed. It is a known bug in Catalina. sudo killall coreaudiod"Dec 18 03:16
DaemonFC[m]Actually, VLC on Linux has been getting that bad lately.Dec 18 03:17
DaemonFC[m]About 1/20 times it closes and then zombies itself.Dec 18 03:17
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DaemonFC[m]I honestly think that even Windows 10 is less frustrating than a Mac and wonder why anyone would tolerate a Mac, let alone pay more for it.Dec 18 04:39
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scienteswhere did oihim go?Dec 18 05:53
scientesMinceR, they cantDec 18 05:53
scientes 18 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | jwz: Guatemalans set Congress on fire, bring guillotineDec 18 06:08
scientesa fucking guillotineDec 18 06:08
schestowitz[00:55] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Electoral-vote dot com is engaging in some sort of fantasy where the economy comes roaring back next year.Dec 18 06:21
schestowitzIt never came back since 2008Dec 18 06:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | jwz: Snow Crash, Decayscreen editionDec 18 06:37
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: got a query for youDec 18 07:27
schestowitzI am looking for recording with webcam softwareDec 18 07:27
schestowitzhave not done so for nearly a decadeDec 18 07:28
schestowitzcheese is for gnomeDec 18 07:28
schestowitzit's a tad too simpleDec 18 07:28
schestowitzWebcamoid is recommended for Qt here 18 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cheese Alternatives for Linux - AlternativeTo.netDec 18 07:28
schestowitzdo you know of anything else worth trying? I think you were into those sorts of programsDec 18 07:28
schestowitz"for GNU/Linux"Dec 18 07:33
schestowitz 18 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Webcamoid, The ultimate webcam suite!Dec 18 07:33
schestowitzthey even say GNUDec 18 07:33
DaemonFC[m]There was kamoso.Dec 18 07:45
DaemonFC[m]Does that still exist?Dec 18 07:45
schestowitzI saw the name mentionedDec 18 07:46
schestowitzdoes it deal with multiple cameras OK?Dec 18 07:46
schestowitzcheese just gives  a simple toggle buttonDec 18 07:46
schestowitzwebcamoid lets you choose screen 0 and 1, then move between webcam sources, but it seems to be missing keyboard shortcuts for shiftingDec 18 07:47
schestowitz 18 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Are there any webcam app other than kamoso? : kdeDec 18 07:48
schestowitznot sure about QtCAMDec 18 07:48
DaemonFC[m]Never tried to use it like that.Dec 18 07:50
schestowitzOK, I found an alternativeDec 18 08:00
schestowitzI will place the button outside the capture framesDec 18 08:01
schestowitzand then use the mouseDec 18 08:01
vZS1OBS is goodDec 18 08:01
vZS1Works pretty much everywhereDec 18 08:01
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schestowitzah, yes, I forgot about itDec 18 08:24
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scientes 18 09:55
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scientesXRevan86, ^Dec 18 09:56
scientespeople says it reminds them of this: 18 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Papers, Please - DownloadDec 18 09:57
scientesappears to be quite buggy with wineDec 18 10:10
scienteslame I wanted to play itDec 18 10:12
scientes"musical chairs" is the best explanation of the yuppies I have ever readDec 18 11:06
schestowitzzoobab: constitutional complaints coming?Dec 18 11:22
schestowitz  this is bristows, so you can never trust how they frame things, based on their track redordDec 18 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | German Federal Council approves law required for UPC ratification | Latest news | Unified Patent Court and Unitary PatentDec 18 11:22
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DaemonFC[m]Oddly, as much as Mozilla has gone through, Firefox still seems snappier and more responsive on Windows than the incumbent web browser.Dec 18 19:38
DaemonFC[m]It's kind of surprising that Firefox keeps a search deal going with Bing, which is telling people it's unsafe to use Firefox.Dec 18 19:38
DaemonFC[m]<scientes "people says it reminds them of t"> That's how USCIS is.Dec 18 19:49
DaemonFC[m]The rules change every day about who they let in.Dec 18 19:49
DaemonFC[m]Some guy sitting there has to keep up with it as they stamp papers. Dec 18 19:49
DaemonFC[m]Trump issued a flurry of unconstitutional and illegally implemented immigration rules and the courts have gone back and forth knocking them over and putting them back in or knocking them down as it pertains to some people, but not in Illinois, and then nevermind it's in Illinois too now, and now it's struck down again.Dec 18 19:50
DaemonFC[m]No time to appeal it this time and they'd just go away again under Biden even if he managed.Dec 18 19:51
DaemonFC[m]Luckily, it seems he's so tied up ranting and raving about the election while his cabinet is resigning and hitting jobs posting websites, that it's all over except the pardons and January 20th.Dec 18 19:52
DaemonFC[m]The Russians even managed to invade pretty much every high level US government agency and make off with god knows what, and all Trump can do is continue to tweet about his election loss from the shitter.Dec 18 19:52
schestowitzAriadne: can disk space for new techrights be high?Dec 18 19:57
schestowitzwe've been uploading many videos latelyDec 18 19:57
DaemonFC[m] 18 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | With punt, Supreme Court largely ends Trump census plan - Los Angeles TimesDec 18 19:57
DaemonFC[m]The Supreme Court pretty much threw out Trump's plan to exclude undocumented immigrants from the Census.Dec 18 19:57
DaemonFC[m]Google News no longer works properly if I'm on the VPN.Dec 18 19:58
schestowitzuse something elseDec 18 20:14
schestowitzwhat do you search for roughly?Dec 18 20:14
schestowitzunless you debug some rare computer problem, there are other places you can find infoDec 18 20:14
schestowitzRianne asks if you're vegetarianDec 18 20:23
schestowitzsorry, wrong channelDec 18 20:23
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Google has been getting really weird lately.Dec 18 20:58
psydroidit looks like some kind of identity crisisDec 18 21:07
DaemonFC[m]It seems that if you leave the touchpad on while you have a bluetooth mouse connected, there's a lot of lag and jitter with the bluetooth mouse.Dec 18 21:07
DaemonFC[m]So having it turn the touchpad off while the bluetooth mouse is connected seems to solve some of that.Dec 18 21:08
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DaemonFC[m]It seems Windows 10 has problems dealing with a touchpad that's on and a mouse, which causes some sort of strange polling errors.Dec 18 21:40
DaemonFC[m]If you tell it disable the touchpad while the mouse is on, it will be much less aggravating.Dec 18 21:41
DaemonFC[m]It seems the highest speed anything can actually connect to my router at is 144 Mbps, even in N-only mode.Dec 18 21:44
DaemonFC[m]But in mixed-mode Windows was reporting that it was falling back to 130 Mbps.Dec 18 21:44
DaemonFC[m]So by setting it to N-only you can get a little more out of it, but nothing approaching what the router says it's capable of.Dec 18 21:44
DaemonFC[m]I suppose it's still doing everything I need and more though.Dec 18 21:45
DaemonFC[m] 18 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to block autoplaying videos in the new Microsoft Edge web browser - gHacks Tech NewsDec 18 21:49
DaemonFC[m]Looks like Microsoft added Block Autoplay back to Edge Chromium but it's behind an experiment flag.Dec 18 21:50
DaemonFC[m]And it doesn't actually work.Dec 18 21:51
MinceRa failed experimentDec 18 21:55
psydroidlike the entire companyDec 18 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Okay, it works but you have to reboot.Dec 18 21:56
DaemonFC[m]But on CNN and not Fox News.Dec 18 21:56
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tr_guest|38422LSB must be respected.Dec 18 23:04
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vZS1I only try Google when all the other engines fail meDec 18 23:06
vZS1Unless the question is super refined, I end up restoring to GoogleDec 18 23:07
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vZS1Idk if Google is so good just because of sheer scaleDec 18 23:46
MinceRit used to be goodDec 18 23:46
vZS1Google still gives be the best resultsDec 18 23:47
vZS1me*Dec 18 23:47

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