●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, February 19, 2024 ●●
● Feb 19
[00:02]	DaemonFC	Very normal....
[00:02]	DaemonFC	You know. leaving testicles in a refrigerator.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Not even your fridge, but the ex-boyfriend's and then wanting the testicles in the jar of formaldehyde back months later (after getting out of jail).
[00:03]	DaemonFC	And then the ex-boyfriend is such a weirdo that he (1) allowed the testicles in the refrigerator with food and (2) kept them there.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I usually leave my testicles all over the place.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	I never can remember where I put them. They come off and then they go back on later, I mean, why else would you keep them in a jar?
[00:04]	DaemonFC	:D
[00:05]	DaemonFC	I have to be very careful which jar I keep them in because I also have a jar with the night guard for my teeth in a jar of mouthwash and you don't want to get the two confused.
[00:06]	MinceR	OK
[00:06]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The news is truly dead, but can be funny sometimes.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	The Detroit News reported, "Kingsley, who clutched a small black comfort dog throughout the hearing, said the March 23, 2022 surgery at Henry Ford Hospital cost $20,000, although she said because she's disabled, the state footed the bill."
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Of course it did.
[00:09]	MinceR	comfort dog, premium dog, luxury dog
[00:09]	DaemonFC	https://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/IN/IN.html
[00:09]	TR Bot	 Eugenic Sterilizations in INDIANA
[00:09]	DaemonFC	No irony there, MinceR
[00:09]	DaemonFC	The government in Indiana was so progressive that it stopped _compulsory_ sterilization of "idiots and the mentally ill" in 1974.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> This graph illustrates the changing patterns of the rate of sterilization in Indiana. In the beginning period (1907-1930) and at the end (1960-1983) there were few sterilizations, but during some of the years between (mostly 1933-1950) there was a large number of sterilizations, with only a mild increase from 1950-60, after which there were very few.  For the period 1933 to 1950, a total of 1672 sterilizations were performed, which averages to 98 
[00:11]	DaemonFC	sterilizations per year.  The periods with the highest number of sterilizations were 1933-1938, when 443 people were sterilized, and 1944-1950, with 603 sterilizations.  In the 1933-1938 period about 90 people were sterilized per year, and the sterilization rate was about 3 people sterilized per 100,000 residents per year. The period 1944-1950 had a rate of about 100 sterilizations per year, and the sterilization rate per resident per year was also 
[00:11]	DaemonFC	about 3 (StatsIndiana).
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> Passage of Laws
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> Indiana was the first state to pass a compulsory sterilization law, with the law coming into effect in 1907 (Stern 2007, p. 7).  After this law was struck down in 1921 by the Indiana Supreme Court, there was an attempt to pass a new sterilization law in 1925 which sought to reinstitute eugenic sterilization in Indiana through the creation of a state eugenicist, but this effort was defeated in the Indiana Legislature (Lantzer and Stern 2007, pp. 9-10). 
[00:11]	DaemonFC	 Shortly thereafter, the legislature succeeded in passing a second law in 1927.  This law was expanded in 1931, and eventually repealed in 1974 (Baldanzi et al).
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> Groups Identified in the Law
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> The first law, in 1907,  targeted:  confirmed criminals, idiots, imbeciles, and rapists (Stern 2007, p. 9).  The second law, in 1927, was somewhat more limited, confined to the Insane, feeble minded or epileptic (Stern 2007, p.29). There was thus a shift in emphasis, from the mentally ill and serious criminals to only the mentally ill.  Both laws were specifically designed to target those housed 
[00:11]	DaemonFC	within state institutions, not those in the general population (Stern 2007, pp. 9, 29). 
[00:12]	DaemonFC	----
[00:12]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Apparently "confirmed criminals" got a break in 1927, but it was still fine to strap down any "mentally ill" people and snip them.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	It was not that difficult to wind up in a "State institution", because you could end up in there for anything, including being gay, or "female hysteria" (PMS)
[00:13]	DaemonFC	They also tended to put anyone who said they were a Communist in a mental hospital, because only crazy people wanted Communism.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	This is completely different from the USSR putting reformists in the mental institutions for being so crazy they wanted reform.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Only crazy people want something different than the assholes in charge.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:16]	DaemonFC	> Instead it represented the legalistic culmination of at least two decades of steady development of ideas about criminality, degeneracy, hyper-sexuality, and the primacy of heredity in determining personality and familial traits.  When Indianas eugenic sterilization measures was passed, many considered it little more than just another aspect of societys efforts to combat poverty and disease.  It was perceived that the dregs of society 
[00:16]	DaemonFC	were reproducing themselves at a rapid rate compared to the rest of society, and it was vital to use all the tools at hand, including eugenic sterilization, to prevent those posing the greatest threat to the state from propagating those like themselves (Stern 2007, p. 13).  Extended family studies such as the Tribe of Ishmael, done in the late 19th century, supposedly proved that certain family groups were posing undue burdens on the state through 
[00:16]	DaemonFC	irresponsible living and high birth rates (as such people were more likely to spend time in jail and be on public relief) (Stern 2007, p. 15).
[00:16]	DaemonFC	---
[00:16]	DaemonFC	This is Nazism.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	Adolf Hitler said he liked what Indiana was doing.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	The studies Indiana cited, the junk science, was exactly the same as what the Nazis in Germany cited.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	There was really no widespread disagreement with Hitler in the US.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Almost 40% of the House of Representatives openly praised Hitler well into 1941.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	And for some reason stopped that on December 7th.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Almost half of the elected officials in the US Congress wanted to ally the US with Nazi Germany.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	And then they ran and hid when that was no longer tenable, but they were still in Congress.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	For a very long time.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Strom Thurmond was still in the Senate until he died in the 2000s.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	So that's not that long ago that the last of that crop was gone.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	> Even after the first law was struck down for lack of due process, eugenics itself did not die in Indiana.  Better babies contests and eugenics presentations at county and state fairs helped maintain public interest in the ideas of human heredity (Stern 2007, p.22). 
[00:20]	DaemonFC	"Better Babies" was a thing clear into the 1980s.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	The local papers had a "Baby book." and my picture was in one of them.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	And a woman from the Sears Catalog department wanted my mother to put me in their catalog for toddler clothing.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	They had certain "ideas" about what "better babies" meant. And it was always white. You never saw a black baby in a baby book or a Sears catalog.
[00:22]	MinceR	you could order a baby from a catalog?
[00:23]	DaemonFC	The models for the clothing sections, to demonstrate the clothing.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	Today you see all kinds of races in the clothing models.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	But in the 1980s they were all white.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	> As seen in the laws explicit statements, those with various degrees of mental disability were targeted for sterilization, though the rural poor often ended up as targets as well.  Poor whites from Kentucky and Tennessee were often singled out as disproportionately degenerate as well, especially those living in the back country (Stern 2007, p. 20).  These groups were not only outsiders, but had been left behind by the developmental forces sweeping 
[00:23]	DaemonFC	Indiana in the early 20th century.  Their social stagnation could easily be characterized as due to innate inferiority compared to the rest of the state (Stern 2005, p. 13). Another group that was also targeted by Indiana's sterilization laws were the  Ishmaels, a local community whom lived in Indiana (Stern 2005, p.15). In Stern's book, its mentioned how Oscar Mcculloch, observes this tribe and concluded they were subhuman, referring them as "devil 
[00:24]	DaemonFC	grass" since they were burdening the state of Indiana due to their way of living (Stern 2005, p. 16). The studies done on the group known as the Tribe of Ishmael by eugenic researchers helped show society why compulsory sterilization regulation was needed for degenerative families to preserve society and rid them of all defective traits (Deutsch 2009, p. 7).
[00:24]	DaemonFC	----
[00:24]	DaemonFC	Indiana didn't have many Blacks or other minorities back then, and it still doesn't, aside from some Chicago spillover and Indianapolis.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	So the Eugenicists took what they could get and targeted "lesser" white people.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	Since this directly defies the Liberal Agenda of saying the victims are always minorities, they don't discuss the Indiana Eugenics program much.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	When there are no minorities, the "mongrel races" become other White people.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	Whites will turn on themselves like wolves always looking for something inferior to find and castrate, even if it's each other.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	The left cozying up with "Palestinians" is just really odd until you consider that the majority of the Holocaust Denial movement has always been the left.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	At universities and places like that. This isn't even new.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	The term "modern state of Israel" is a misdirection.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	There was never a legitimate Palestine.
[00:40]	TR News	Lehmer random number generator gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/02/18/lehmer-prng.gmi
[00:41]	DaemonFC	They were living on land stolen from the Israelis by the Romans and given to their enemies. The Romans called it "Palestine" to further harass the Jews by naming their land which was stolen after the Philistines. 
[00:42]	TR News	"The next thing I'd like to mention is the new #geminiprotocol hashtag on Mastodon. The old one was took over by Google and their new Bard-like brand. I'm observing that the new hashtag is fully working now and people are writing there." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
[00:42]	DaemonFC	When the British gave it back, the partitioning plan left most of the land in the hands of the people who stole it, and Israel took some more of its own land back right away.
[00:43]	TR News	In the name of sustainablity, I bought a power meter gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2024/02-18-in-the-name-of-sustainablity-i-bought-a-power-meter.gmi
[00:43]	DaemonFC	After the Nazi oppression of the Jews, it became obvious that the Jews needed their own homeland because they had historically been persecuted wherever they went.
[00:43]	DaemonFC	Even before the Romans.
[00:44]	TR News	Reconfiguring NNCP gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2024/202402/20240218-reconfiguring-nncp.gmi
[00:44]	DaemonFC	The antisemitic Left is more like the Nazis than they'll ever admit.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	By throwing in with Muslim Arabs, they're just continuing what Hitler himself would have done.
[00:45]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D846.jpg
[00:45]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1196.jpg
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Hitler and the Arabs would have agreed on what to do about transgender people too.
[00:46]		*#techrights :You're not a channel operator
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[00:47]	DaemonFC	Would an alliance between Hitler and the Arabs to exterminate the Jews, Gays, Trans, and Gypsies, among others have lasted? Absolutely not.
[00:48]	DaemonFC	He tolerated the Japanese because he needed to assemble a collection of Fascist States to try to take over the world.
[00:48]	DaemonFC	But he would have turned on them.
[00:48]		*You are now known as schestowitz
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*mjg59@*.irc
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*linux*@*.irc
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*cubexyz*@*.irc
[00:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Seriously?
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*@mt2sa93cw8e5a.irc
[00:48]		*schestowitz removes ban on *!*baronhk*@*.irc
[00:49]	schestowitz	you ban too much
[00:49]	schestowitz	and people complain
[00:49]	DaemonFC	When is the last time anything good came from Mibbit?
[00:49]	DaemonFC	Who complains?
[00:49]	DaemonFC	The person who threatened me this morning?
[00:49]	Guest90	ftr, i oppose what daemonFC did
[00:49]	Guest90	ad the kick last night
[00:49]	DaemonFC	There's only one thing "arkanian" has done and that's attempts to provoke.
[00:49]	Guest90	i said it on the record after I had woken up
[00:49]	DaemonFC	We all know why that is.
[00:49]	Guest90	you can come back
[00:50]	Guest90	this was done without consulting anyone
[00:50]	Guest90	to "settle scores"
[00:50]	DaemonFC	You banned 3 of those.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	The baronhk one was an imposter.
[00:50]	schestowitz	ages ago
[00:50]	DaemonFC	If anyone is logging in using that, it's to spam terrorist shit.
[00:50]		*schestowitz removes channel operator status from DaemonFC
[00:51]	schestowitz	we need to not overuse bans
[00:51]	schestowitz	foor now
[00:51]	schestowitz	*for
[00:51]	schestowitz	you saw a threat
[00:51]	schestowitz	where there was none from what I saw
[00:51]	DaemonFC	There was an implied threat there.
[00:51]	schestowitz	anyway...
[00:51]	DaemonFC	And I know who that is.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	And you do too.
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Anyway, the point was to get under my skin.
[00:52]	schestowitz	yes
[00:52]	schestowitz	but still
[00:53]	DaemonFC	There's only two people who might possibly complain and MinceR has had to k-line the crap out of this ircd to try to keep a lid on them.
[00:53]	TR News	"Here's a test post just to make sure I know how everything works. " gemini://jentu.smol.pub/helloworld
[00:53]	DaemonFC	I add two lines to a channel ban.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	Who complains?
[00:53]	TR News	Rainbow Island: Amiga music VS Arcade music gemini://cesco.smol.pub/2024-02-09-rainbow-island-music-amiga-vs-arcade
[00:54]	schestowitz	some of thesse bans are from august
[00:54]	schestowitz	and are not relevant anymore
[00:54]	schestowitz	so i just emptied that list
[00:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: I think Mibbit will continue being a problem.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	We've talked about that, and it was a problem about a few weeks ago, and I plugged it to shut him up.
[00:55]	MinceR	the website still points people to mibbit
[00:55]	DaemonFC	MinceR: This is just shit design.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Putting everyone behind the same IP address.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	IRC Cloud at least gives everyone a unique user id so they have to go through the trouble of signing up again and creating another email account for it.
[00:56]	schestowitz	* schestowitz removes ban on *!*cubexyz*@*.irc
[00:56]	DaemonFC	I can hardly be blamed for the fact that Mibbit should have a better way to handle abuse than ban everyone using Mibbit!
[00:56]	MinceR	as far as i could tell, that doesn't slow spammers down much either
[00:56]	schestowitz	mark was with us since 1+ years agoi\
[00:56]	schestowitz	no need for such a ban
[00:56]	schestowitz	even if some imposter was there last year
[00:56]	MinceR	the stalker you saw a short while ago registered a lot of irccloud accounts to try to get into another channel
[00:57]	DaemonFC	arkanian?
[00:57]	DaemonFC	Thank you for killing that.
[00:57]	DaemonFC	There went his VPS money for this month.
[00:57]	MinceR	no, before
[00:57]	DaemonFC	We'll see what he uses next.
[00:57]	MinceR	the gypsy
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[00:57]	DaemonFC	So there's another one now?
[00:58]		*includeals (~includeal@bl21-236-167.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights
[00:58]	DaemonFC	The Mibbit problem came back a few weeks ago, schestowitz
[00:59]	TR News	Biden bailouts https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intels-chips-act-award-package-exceeds-dollar10-billion-payout-expected-within-two-weeks-report
[00:59]	TR Bot	 Intel's CHIPS Act award package exceeds $10 billion, payout expected within two weeks: Report | Tom's Hardware
[00:59]	DaemonFC	We're just going to keep seeing that for as long as Mibbit is available.
[00:59]	schestowitz	then we can restore that rule
● Feb 19
[01:00]	DaemonFC	Because he'll just use it behind a VPN and get Mibbit's address, hurl abuse at everyone, and then Mibbit won't even know who it is.
[01:00]	schestowitz	but there were outdated rules there
[01:00]	schestowitz	like cubexyz
[01:00]	DaemonFC	Isn't he dead or something?
[01:00]	schestowitz	almost all the bans by you
[01:00]	TR News	House cleaners find two of the world's first desktop PCs in random boxes defective chip maker Intel 8008-powered Q1 PC has 16KB of memory, 800 kHz CPU https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/house-cleaners-find-two-of-the-worlds-first-desktop-pcs-in-random-boxes
[01:00]	TR Bot	 House cleaners find two of the world's first desktop PCs in random boxes Intel 8008-powered Q1 PC has 16KB of memory, 800 kHz CPU | Tom's Hardware
[01:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: I took action to prevent abuse of various kinds and I purged most of the bans as soon as MinceR k-lined the offender.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	The bans were just there to deal with specific problems temporarily.
[01:01]	TR News	 (NEW):  Open Hardware/Modding: USB-NeoHub, SunFounder GalaxyRVR Mars Rover, and Raspberry Pi http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_USB_NeoHub_SunFounder_GalaxyRVR_Mars_Rove.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_USB_NeoHub_SunFounder_GalaxyRVR_Mars_Rove.gmi 
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: USB-NeoHub, SunFounder GalaxyRVR Mars Rover, and Raspberry Pi
[01:01]	TR News	 (NEW):  9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 18th, 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_February_18th_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_February_18th_2024.gmi 
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 18th, 2024
[01:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The people running the LibreWolf chats are exactly the same sort of people that work at Mozilla.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	The politics are the same. Basically the only reason there is a LibreWolf is because almost everyone is disgusted by all of the junk and spyware.
[01:03]	TR News	Controversial benchmarking website goes behind paywall Userbenchmark now requires a $10 monthly subscription https://www.tomshardware.com/software/controversial-benchmarking-website-goes-behind-paywall-userbenchmark-now-requires-a-pound10-monthly-subscription
[01:03]	TR Bot	 Controversial benchmarking website goes behind partial paywall Userbenchmark now requires a $10 monthly subscription [Update] | Tom's Hardware
[01:03]	TR News	Hong Kong govt uses 2019 protests to justify new security legislation without fully learning from them https://hongkongfp.com/2024/02/18/hong-kong-govt-uses-2019-protests-to-justify-new-security-legislation-without-fully-learning-from-them/
[01:03]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong gov't uses 2019 protests to justify new security legislation
[01:04]	DaemonFC	Mozilla hasn't really bent the curve much on funding. If Google pulls the plug, they'll have 14% of their current revenue.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	That's only marginally better than the 10% they would have had without all this garbage and spyware and to get that, they pissed off a lot of users into leaving.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	So it's ultimately self-defeating.
[01:04]	TR News	The ultimate lighting system for model railroaders https://blog.arduino.cc/2024/02/17/the-ultimate-lighting-system-for-model-railroaders/
[01:04]	TR Bot	 The ultimate lighting system for model railroaders | Arduino Blog
[01:05]	DaemonFC	Then by making it clear that donated money will go to fraudsters registering businesses at UPS stores, there's not much incentive to donate.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	They couldn't be better at self-sabotage if they tried.
[01:05]	TR News	Marco Arena's series on SObjectizer https://cukic.co/2024/02/17/marco-sobjectizer/index.html
[01:05]	TR Bot	 Marco Arena's series on SObjectizer | Ivan uki
[01:05]	DaemonFC	Gecko is getting to be a real nightmare.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	More of Goanna is having to be "self-implemented code", especially in CSS rules.
[01:06]	DaemonFC	That's good and bad. Bad in that you can't just pluck code you want from upstream. Good, in that some of that code is badly written and having to rewrite it anyway means you can do that one right.
[01:07]	TR News	"Enthusiast Seeks Keycap Designer For Alphasmart NEO" https://hackaday.com/2024/02/17/enthusiast-seeks-keycap-designer-for-alphasmart-neo/ | Source: Hackaday
[01:07]	TR Bot	Seeks Keycap Designer For Alphasmart NEO | Hackaday
[01:07]	DaemonFC	Some of the bugs in Firefox's engine are just not being fixed and my guess is that they're either there because Chrome is broken too and not being fixed, or developers just special case known Firefox bugs.
[01:08]	TR News	"I was considering going all-in on a custom Raspberry-Pi-based solar tracking system" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/photographing-2024-total-solar-eclipse
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Photographing the 2024 Total Solar Eclipse | Jeff Geerling
[01:09]	TR News	"The economy is roaring"?? What planet are you on??? https://www.businessinsider.com/economy-layoffs-why-keep-hearing-about-tech-media-job-cuts-2024-1?r=US&IR=T
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Why Do We Keep Hearing About Layoffs Amid a Roaring Economy?
[01:10]	TR News	The national debt is roaring. Inflation is roaring.
[01:10]	TR News	Novato video game maker to lay off 86 employees https://www.marinij.com/2024/02/18/novato-video-game-maker-to-lay-off-86-employees/ The economy is roaring!
[01:10]	TR Bot	 Novato video game maker to lay off 86 employees
[01:12]	TR News	~100 more Microsoft layoffs https://www.marinij.com/2024/02/18/novato-video-game-maker-to-lay-off-86-employees/
[01:16]	TR News	The Curse of Capital Management https://two-wrongs.com/the-curse-of-capital-management
[01:16]	TR Bot	 The Curse of Capital Management
[01:16]	TR News	James Valleroy: snac2: a minimalist ActivityPub server in Debian https://jvalleroy.me/wordpress/?p=67
[01:16]	TR Bot	a minimalist ActivityPub server in Debian jvalleroy.me
[01:17]	TR News	A Terminal Status Bar updated https://www.tumfatig.net/terminal-status-bar-updated/
[01:17]	TR Bot	 TuM'Fatig - A Terminal Status Bar updated
[01:17]	TR News	woofV populate rootfs https://bkhome.org/news/202402/woofv-populate-rootfs.html
[01:17]	TR Bot	 woofV populate rootfs
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[01:19]	TR News	"how firmware became the glue of computing." https://tedium.co/2024/02/17/firmware-computer-bios-history/
[01:19]	TR Bot	 Firmware History: Halfway Between Hardware And Software
[01:19]	TR News	(Updated) Banana Pi teases RK3588-powered Single Board Computer with dual 2.5GbE https://linuxgizmos.com/updated-banana-pi-teases-rk3588-powered-single-board-computer-with-dual-2-5gbe/
[01:19]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/updated-banana-pi-teases-rk3588-powered-single-board-computer-with-dual-2-5gbe/ )
[01:19]	TR News	How to Disable IPv6 in GNU/Linux https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-ipv6-in-linux/
[01:19]	TR Bot	 How to Disable IPv6 in Linux - Make Tech Easier
[01:20]	TR News	Emborg Front-End to BorgBackup https://www.linuxlinks.com/emborg-front-end-borg-backup/
[01:20]	TR Bot	- Front-End to BorgBackup - LinuxLinks
[01:20]	TR News	Android 15 Developer Preview released Whats New? https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/17/android-15-developer-preview-released-whats-new/
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Android 15 Developer Preview released - What's New? - CNX Software
[01:20]	TR News	Linux: Limit Concurrent Users on Your Server with SSH https://thenewstack.io/linux-limit-concurrent-users-on-your-server-with-ssh/
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Linux: Limit Concurrent Users on Your Server with SSH - The New Stack
[01:21]	TR News	Major tech players work with 'Linux' Foundation to improve the mapping universe https://siliconangle.com/2024/02/17/major-tech-players-work-linux-foundation-improve-mapping-universe/
[01:21]	TR Bot	tech players work with Linux Foundation to improve the mapping universe - SiliconANGLE
[01:21]	TR News	RunC Container Escape Flaws Grant Attackers Host Access https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/runc-container-escape-flaws
[01:21]	TR Bot	Container Escape Flaws Grant Attackers Host Access | LinuxSecurity.com
[01:22]	TR News	Use Cockpit as Virt-Manager alternative to manage KVM VMs https://linux.how2shout.com/use-cockpit-as-virt-manager-alternative-to-manage-kvm-vms/
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[01:28]	TR News	Latest two false narratives in media: all tech layoffs (or layoffs in general) are signs of "greatness" of "HEY HI" - whatever that is; the layoffs are happening despite a booming economy (the only thing up is debt, inflation, interest rates). Years ago they said "great resignation" and "quiet quitters".
[01:29]	TR News	Oligarchs-owned media will never say the system is failing because it is owned and controlled by the system. Blame-shifting is the "business model"...
[01:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The economy is RAWRing.
[01:29]	DaemonFC	Praise the Biden!
[01:29]	DaemonFC	Praise him!
[01:29]	DaemonFC	:)
[01:29]	schestowitz	it does
[01:30]	schestowitz	according to Business Insider
[01:30]	schestowitz	it beggars belief
[01:30]	schestowitz	that there are many layoffs
[01:30]	schestowitz	those companies don't drown in debt
[01:30]	schestowitz	they just... imagine this
[01:30]	schestowitz	Oligarchs-owned media will never say the system is failing because it is owned and controlled by the system. Blame-shifting is the "business model"...
[01:30]	schestowitz	oops
[01:30]	schestowitz	https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
[01:30]	TR Bot	 United States Government Debt
[01:30]	schestowitz	^ correct paste
[01:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: So Pale Moon probably has more of a future than SeaMonkey does based on what I've observed.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	But the overall situation is bad.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	The only browser project without a bunch of toxic SJWs and spyware and adware does seem to be Pale Moon.
[01:32]	TR News	US national debt doubled since 2016 election. Put another way, US borrowed in less than 8 years more than it borrowed since the beginning of the US.
[01:33]	DaemonFC	I think the work is funded all by donations and that start page.
[01:33]	TR News	Maybe Biden can blame "Brexit" for the debt crisis in the US.
[01:33]	DaemonFC	I'm absolutely certain that the anti-NoScript nonsense is because he doesn't want his startup page that's paying him to break.
[01:35]	DaemonFC	Pale Moon is only noticeably slower than Firefox without NoScript blocking most of the scripts the page doesn't even really need. Even then the difference isn't night and day.
[01:35]	DaemonFC	Firefox just has to have a lot of processes to run the garbage on all your CPUs.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=30686&sid=d12086f4d5eea3a9e8ee69a73e14457a
[01:36]	TR Bot	 What's the position re: Widevine in Basilisk? - Pale Moon forum
[01:36]	DaemonFC	"Widevine (whatever left of it anyway) has been dropped from the platform a month ago. It will never be supported."
[01:37]	DaemonFC	> Re: What's the position re: Widevine in Basilisk?
[01:37]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by athenian200 2023-12-20, 02:49
[01:37]	DaemonFC	> Well, the reason why some parts of the forum say that it was supported, is that at one point it was true... after forking from Firefox and while there was still a lot of overlap in the codebase, there was a brief period of time where Widevine actually worked in Basilisk. This was before the current maintainer took over.
[01:37]	DaemonFC	> It should also be noted that dropping of Widevine support was not really by choice. Google simply wouldn't give us a license to use it, and we would have had to do a lot of work to get our EME stuff up to the level where it could even use Mozilla's copy of Widevine illegitimately (in a way that would likely require the user to have Firefox installed as well to work). The current maintainer inherited that problem from us, and decided he wasn't likely 
[01:37]	DaemonFC	to have a solution either, so the plan of dropping EME went forwards.
[01:38]	DaemonFC	> Re: What's the position re: Widevine in Basilisk?
[01:38]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by Moonchild 2023-12-20, 14:06
[01:38]	DaemonFC	>     athenian200 wrote: 
[01:38]	DaemonFC	>     2023-12-20, 02:49
[01:38]	DaemonFC	>     Google simply wouldn't give us a license to use it 
[01:38]	DaemonFC	> Google has made it clear in no uncertain terms they will not license WideVine to any true FOSS client.
[01:38]	DaemonFC	https://blog.samuelmaddock.com/posts/google-widevine-blocked-my-browser/
[01:38]	TR Bot	 Samuel Maddocks Blog | I tried creating a web browser, and Google blocked me
[01:39]	MinceR	why would they even want to support EME?
[01:39]	MinceR	it's hostile to the users and to the browser developers
[01:39]	MinceR	only the likes of NETFUCKS and crApple benefit from it
[01:40]	DaemonFC	I think his point was mostly that they couldn't even if they wanted to so they just removed the code that was there.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	No Web browser which is actually open source has Widevine.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Because Google won't license it.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Firefox is not open source. It benefits greatly from openwashing and that it's "open core".
[01:41]	DaemonFC	You actually go to fork it and you can't really do anything with it involving "premium content". So then your users, which have been told that they should value convenience more than freedom, go use Chrome or something, and the Web dies a little more that day.
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[01:46]	DaemonFC	There is no Rust in Pale Moon or Basilisk.
[01:46]	DaemonFC	I'm not real sure what the major difference with Basilisk is.
[01:46]	DaemonFC	They say they use GCC 11 to compile it. Pale Moon says GCC 9.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	Basilisk might just be slightly edgier than Pale Moon on certain things.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	https://old.reddit.com/r/palemoon/comments/i4b690/basilisk_vs_pale_moon/
[01:48]	TR Bot	 Basilisk vs. Pale Moon : palemoon
[01:48]	DaemonFC	> []mgF0z 2 points 3 years ago 
[01:48]	DaemonFC	> It's usually things like trademarks and logos... Firefox used to be called ice weasel on Debian until Mozilla and Debian kissed and made up...
[01:48]	DaemonFC	Until Debian had its brains scooped out by Microsoft and IBM people and licked Mozilla and Google's asses and shipped Widevine.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	Fixed that for you.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	:)
[01:53]	DaemonFC	https://www.howtogeek.com/335712/update-why-you-shouldnt-use-waterfox-pale-moon-or-basilisk/
[01:53]	TR Bot	 Why You Shouldn't Use Firefox Forks Like Waterfox, Pale Moon, or Basilisk
[01:53]	DaemonFC	This didn't age well.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	It was obvious that using ESR 52 to keep XUL wasn't a solution that would work for more than a year.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	Web browsers are pretty evil now. "We can't force you to update right away, but we can make your life miserable if you don't."
[01:55]	DaemonFC	"Even if you don't completely trust some of Mozilla's business decisions, your browser is just too important to be left to a small community of enthusiasts."
[01:55]	DaemonFC	Well, Firefox is getting smaller all the time. They've had like four rounds of layoffs now I think.
[01:56]	DaemonFC	Although the last one sounded like mostly unproductives.
[01:57]	DaemonFC	"More importantly, basing a browser on such old code makes security patches harder. Pale Moon's developer tries to keep up with Firefox security patches, but he's maintaining old code that Mozilla has abandoned. Mozilla reportedly has over a thousand employees, while Pale Moon has one primary developer, trying to maintain a huge amount of code that's becoming increasingly outdated."
[01:57]	DaemonFC	1. Mozilla cut the number of Firefox developers in half.
[01:57]	DaemonFC	(To raise CEO pay.)
[01:58]	DaemonFC	2. Not all Mozilla employees work on Firefox, or Gecko, or anything important to Firefox. At least hundreds of them work on this side crap involving the spyware and adware, and a "social network" with less than 600 users, and a LLM.
[01:59]	DaemonFC	3. There's like 8 people working on UXL (Goanna) and they seem to do good work.
[01:59]	DaemonFC	4. Anything that was more difficult to maintain than it was worth was removed. When nobody as interested in the Mac port, the code for the Mac port was removed, although much was later put back in when someone wanted to maintain it.
● Feb 19
[02:00]	DaemonFC	Point is, the tree is pruned if there's not enough interest in a feature.
[02:01]	DaemonFC	5. Mozilla Security gives Pale Moon access to the inside details of Mozilla security holes after a version of Firefox ships with the patches, so it's not like Pale Moon devs have to figure out where they all are.
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[02:02]	DaemonFC	(In fact, many don't apply to Pale Moon or are just merged as Defense-in-Depth because that code isn't really used in the same way as it is in Gecko, but it's patched anyway in case similar vulnerabilities are possible.)
[02:03]	DaemonFC	6. Mozilla adds a giant vulnerability to Windows. Since Windows doesn't have an updater, Mozilla adds a system service. This service has been hijacked to install malware on Windows. Pale Moon doesn't update in this manner on Windows.
[02:03]	DaemonFC	7. Mozilla's e10s led to a lot of bugs that were exploitable, but only because of e10s.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	Firefox isn't a labor of love.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	You bring them Web compatibility problems like sites saying come back in Chrome or Edge because of UA sniffing, and Mozilla doesn't do anything, for years on end.
[02:05]	DaemonFC	Their Web Compat people might as well be Lennart Poettering. If you bring them bugs, they insult you and leave the bugs.
[02:05]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
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[02:07]	DaemonFC	This is really some troll who is all butthurt that some people don't like Mozilla.
[02:08]	DaemonFC	The Web is hurting because it's basically Mozilla, Apple, Google (an ad company), and things that make Google Chrome a little different (the biggest one being ran by a tech bruh).
[02:08]	schestowitz	mozilla looks into "web monetisation"
[02:08]	schestowitz	look that up
[02:08]	schestowitz	to me, this is bad
[02:08]	schestowitz	because moz was a foundaation
[02:09]	schestowitz	and now it's just an AOL
[02:09]	schestowitz	I don't want a web that prioritises business interests
[02:09]	schestowitz	as opposed to publications, communities etc.
[02:09]	DaemonFC	Pale Moon is a fork of Mozilla Central from when Mozilla was actually a tech company trying to make the Web better.
[02:09]	schestowitz	but Baker got used to 7 million dollars a year
[02:09]	DaemonFC	It's a fork of the "last good" copy of Mozilla Central.
[02:09]	schestowitz	over 500,000 bucks in the bank every month
[02:10]	schestowitz	so good luck explaining to her why ordinary people's priorities are
[02:10]	DaemonFC	Right, AOL wasn't even this bad.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	They were funding the development of an engine that implemented Web standards that at least anyone could use and understand.
[02:10]	schestowitz	i remember 90s web
[02:10]	schestowitz	bored.com
[02:10]	schestowitz	howstuiffworks.com
[02:10]	schestowitz	it was a different time
[02:11]	schestowitz	no "like" buttons"
[02:11]	schestowitz	no Googlle
[02:11]	schestowitz	you would go to hubs
[02:11]	schestowitz	or reputable sources
[02:11]	schestowitz	no "trump sez"
[02:12]	schestowitz	so the 90s generation grew up relatively ok
[02:12]	schestowitz	and we were not always online
[02:12]	DaemonFC	https://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/IN/IN.html
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Eugenic Sterilizations in INDIANA
[02:12]	DaemonFC	Anyway, Indiana Nazis
[02:12]	DaemonFC	I hate Indiana Nazis.
[02:12]	schestowitz	didn't carry mobile phone everywhere for worthless "notifications"
[02:13]	schestowitz	from beijing/xi or zuck
[02:14]	DaemonFC	The legislature that had tried to square the circle came back a couple decades later and said we needed to neuter people to protect us from idiocy and mental illness.
[02:14]	DaemonFC	I love government. MinceR ^
[02:14]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:14]	arkanian	thanks Guest90 / Roy
[02:14]	arkanian	ill try not to bother him anymore, i'm still k-lined though
[02:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: A New Left has emerged.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	And it has all sorts of "tenets" that are appropriated from, all over the place.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	Including Nazism.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	But it's a very schizophrenic Nazi movement.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	They adopt a lot of the tactics.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Some of the beliefs.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	The Democrats are basically just Nazis that humor "LGBT" for the votes.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	An increasing amount of the Party's supporters are in fact mentally ill.
[02:17]	DaemonFC	In a very self-defeating way.
[02:17]	DaemonFC	They attack Jews, who are the only people in the Middle East who have gay rights.
[02:17]	DaemonFC	And the New Left supports the Palestinians, who are terrorists who kill gays and trans people.
[02:17]	DaemonFC	This makes basically no sense at all.
[02:18]	DaemonFC	If you are in Israel (non-"Palestine") you get your marriage recognized. You walk over into Gaza and tell them you're a gay interracial married couple of atheists, you get executed.
[02:18]	DaemonFC	And so you have two choices and the "LGBT" picked the murderous savages.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	The mess in Gaza is something that I'm not even interested in.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	I have no idea why I should care if there is a "genocide" or not, when there's nobody there who wouldn't murder me if I walked into Gaza.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	Gaza definitely never had the sodomy law (which was inherited from the British) repealed.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	The West Bank technically did while it was under Jordanian rule.
[02:21]	schestowitz	back to tech
[02:21]	DaemonFC	But it's still a very touchy subject there because the Palestinian Authority (not Hamas, which rules Gaza, or did), makes promises with Israel and then lets the Palestinians that live there do the thing they agreed to not do.
[02:21]	schestowitz	i am working on
[02:21]	schestowitz	"Almost 1,000 Microsoft Layoffs in California, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act"
[02:21]	schestowitz	any input on that, DaemonFC ?
[02:22]	DaemonFC	They agree to protect holy sites, then let the civilians burn and loot and ravage them.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	They say being gay isn't illegal, so the civilians will kill you and nobody will stop them.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	[2/18/24 8:21 pm] <schestowitz> any input on that, DaemonFC ?
[02:23]	DaemonFC	California has been falling apart for years.
[02:23]	DaemonFC	John was in SF months ago.
[02:23]	DaemonFC	He said it was a ghost town then.
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Before tens of thousands of additional layoffs.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	The whole place is a "Mecca", but not of tech, of fraud.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	It's "tech fraud" I suppose.
[02:24]	MinceR	most of "tech" is fraud
[02:24]	DaemonFC	We're seeing business cycles now where the economy is allegedly tech but then it all falls apart when the business cycle ends due to interest rates or something.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	The Fed has one big policy tool and when something else goes wrong in the economy and needs to be addressed, like generalized inflation or a housing crisis, it raises interest rates.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	And "tech startups" that were under no pressure to make money suddenly can't get cheap rounds of funding and the weaker ones die off first.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	How bad it gets for them depends on a lot of things, but mostly whether the Fed Funds rate stays where it is, and for how long.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	If the Fed is serious about returning inflation to 2%, then rates will stay higher for at least another year.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	Maybe not as high as they are now, but certainly not "loans that are basically interest-free" for years.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	They usually don't stop until there's a stock market crash.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	Then they ease back.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	The speculative type of investments that only make sense in a zero interest environment are mostly not going to survive this.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	Hell, Powell is talking about a "manageable" sting of bank failures.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	So what does that tell you?
[02:29]	DaemonFC	JP Morgan (Jamie Dimon) has gone to them and said "Feed me MOAR BABIES!" and by that I of course mean, make more banks fail, socialize the losses, and sell the rest to us.
[02:31]	schestowitz	draft?
[02:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: I wonder if First Citizens won't be one of the next to go.
[02:31]	schestowitz	<arkanian> ill try not to bother him anymore, i'm still k-lined though
[02:31]	DaemonFC	They got what was left of SVB, and they're continuing a lot of the risky investments.
[02:31]	schestowitz	MinceR: can you undo that?
[02:31]	schestowitz	i didn't see a threar
[02:32]	MinceR	sure
[02:32]	schestowitz	*threat
[02:32]	MinceR	schestowitz: done
[02:32]	Guest90	try now
[02:32]	DaemonFC	Making accusations of stalking.
[02:32]	Guest90	i took ops away from daemonfc
[02:32]	DaemonFC	For going through the state business records, which are open records.
[02:32]	Guest90	as I didn't agree with what he had done
[02:32]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: it's the typical thing
[02:32]	DaemonFC	To see if there's something of public interest to who Mozilla is dealing with.
[02:32]	schestowitz	like, you criticise a person
[02:33]	schestowitz	"oh, it's because it's a lady"
[02:33]	schestowitz	"oh, it's because it's a Jew"
[02:33]	schestowitz	"oh, it's because it's a trans person"
[02:33]	schestowitz	"oh, it's because it's a young person"
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Yeah, and that's why nobody even touches it when there's a scam going on.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	It's easier to just not talk about it.
[02:33]	schestowitz	it's how you discourage exploring facts
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Because the scammer will always be "a person type you can't say anything about".
[02:33]	schestowitz	seinfeld did an episode about it
[02:33]	schestowitz	"Uncle Leo"
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Uncle Leo?
[02:34]	schestowitz	look that up
[02:35]	DaemonFC	I have no interest in bothering anyone. If I do decide if there's a story to be found here, I would of course redact anything even though anyone else could just use open records. I mean it's kind of dumb to run a scam and put down your apartment on the LLC form.
[02:35]	DaemonFC	There's no requirement to redact that but I don't feel comfortable copying it as-is.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	I'll probably just let it go though.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	Lunduke got attention on the problem.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	Mozilla is frittering away cash on scammers and bullshit artists.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Money that could have paid laid off Firefox programmers.
[02:37]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Almost_1_000_Microsoft_Layoffs_in_California_This_Year_Accordin.shtml
[02:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights Almost 1,000 Microsoft Layoffs in California This Year, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act
[02:37]	schestowitz	draft
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Pale Moon doesn't have money to throw at scammers and bullshit artists and capital waste.
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[02:38]	TR News	Techrights Almost 1,000 Microsoft Layoffs in California This Year, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Almost_1_000_Microsoft_Layoffs_in_California_This_Year_Accordin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Almost_1_000_Microsoft_Layoffs_in_California_This_Year_Accordin.gmi 
[02:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights Almost 1,000 Microsoft Layoffs in California This Year, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act
[02:39]	DaemonFC	"discloses"
[02:39]	DaemonFC	disclosures?
[02:40]	schestowitz	fixed
[02:40]	DaemonFC	Looks okay other than that.
[02:40]	DaemonFC	But yeah, even the meat byproducts of the tech industry are almost gone.
[02:41]	DaemonFC	You know, they do so little work that benefits anyone else when they're gone.
[02:41]	DaemonFC	It's just wasted money and socialized losses.
[02:41]	schestowitz	yes
[02:41]	schestowitz	eventually they move to some forest
[02:41]	schestowitz	and become unproductive
[02:41]	MinceR	firecocks programmers can't get much good done with leadership this bad
[02:41]	schestowitz	the false projection was,
[02:41]	schestowitz	study CS a decade back
[02:41]	DaemonFC	I've moved my default browser to Pale Moon.
[02:42]	schestowitz	and work in "IT" for the next 40 years
[02:42]	DaemonFC	Default E-Mail is still SeaMonkey Mail.
[02:42]	schestowitz	it was a bubble
[02:42]	DaemonFC	I'm moving "Web App Garbage" over to Ungoogled-Chromium.
[02:42]	schestowitz	40 years is a very long time
[02:42]	schestowitz	from what I see and hear, they don't work40 hours a week
[02:42]	MinceR	was it really a bubble or did our species merely fail to advance our technology significantly?
[02:42]	schestowitz	the 40-year mortgages are getting worse
[02:43]	schestowitz	the interest rates
[02:43]	schestowitz	so they work more and more
[02:43]	schestowitz	for fear of sacking
[02:43]	MinceR	there's hardly anything we do that doesn't depend on IT
[02:43]	schestowitz	in an industry where nott many openings exist
[02:43]	schestowitz	and they the layoffss are implemented regardless of perforemance
[02:43]	schestowitz	more about which department or project you are on
[02:43]	schestowitz	not how hard you work
[02:44]	schestowitz	MinceR: i think consolidation
[02:44]	schestowitz	many outsourced email to afam
[02:44]	schestowitz	which means, schools and unis don't have admins
[02:44]	schestowitz	just suits who "call Google"
[02:44]	MinceR	it's not just email
[02:44]	schestowitz	yes
[02:44]	MinceR	we have microcontrollers in most of our stuff
[02:44]	schestowitz	i gave just one example
[02:45]	MinceR	tons of administration gets done on computers
[02:45]	MinceR	governments tend to rely on IT to interface with subjects
[02:45]	schestowitz	we used to have admin dept in I.S.B.E.
[02:45]	schestowitz	before gradual outsourcing
[02:45]	schestowitz	some outsource to JIRA
[02:45]	schestowitz	and dropbox
[02:45]	MinceR	we have lots of computers in our vehicles
[02:46]	schestowitz	so the internal "IT" systems get deprecated
[02:46]	schestowitz	and they pay "rents"
[02:46]	MinceR	phones without computers are practically gone
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[02:46]	schestowitz	MinceR: yes, but more tech does not mean more tech jobs
[02:46]	schestowitz	few companies can manage more
[02:46]	schestowitz	remotely even
[02:47]	schestowitz	like Gmail
[02:47]	schestowitz	look up what% of email is now google
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[02:47]	schestowitz	that used to be  millions of relays
[02:47]	schestowitz	not the lion's share is few companies
[02:47]	schestowitz	that employ not many people
[02:47]	schestowitz	and say "clown is down" when things don't work
[02:48]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/o/2022/12/28/andy-farnell-on-british-universities/
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[02:48]	MinceR	that's just administration
[02:48]	MinceR	what about software development?
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[02:52]	schestowitz	<MinceR> what about software development?
[02:52]	schestowitz	that still exists
[02:52]	schestowitz	but lots of reuse
[02:53]	schestowitz	int he 90s you wrote programs
[02:53]	schestowitz	not you just glue things
[02:53]	schestowitz	seems like sirius is not just CEO and one geek
[02:53]	schestowitz	maybe one admin somewhere
[02:53]	schestowitz	but it's basically a joke at this stage
[02:53]	schestowitz	everyone left
[02:54]	schestowitz	more so after rianne and I had left
[02:54]	schestowitz	then almost everyone left
[02:54]	schestowitz	we hardlly did development anymore
[02:54]	schestowitz	as I covered in the series
[02:54]	schestowitz	and those who did programming were underpaid
[02:55]	schestowitz	an issue that goes nearly  a decade back
[02:56]	schestowitz	colleagues were tolerating this so long as:
[02:56]	schestowitz	1) the work atmosphere was ok
[02:56]	schestowitz	2) the company was not lying about _everything_
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[02:59]	schestowitz	seems many were out of luck
[02:59]	schestowitz	as they had saved nothingh
[02:59]	schestowitz	and could not choose to leave
[02:59]	schestowitz	some guy called salman said the other day,
[02:59]	schestowitz	his friends struggle financially
[02:59]	schestowitz	and it impacts their personal lives
[02:59]	schestowitz	so he does not want to marry
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[03:00]	schestowitz	seems like a common sentiment after 2008 and more so 2020
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[03:09]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> They got what was left of SVB, and they're continuing a lot of the risky investments.
[03:09]	schestowitz	many other banks  are on the brink
[03:09]	schestowitz	just waiting for a trigger event
[03:10]	schestowitz	then more bailouts
[03:10]	schestowitz	then more inflation
[03:10]	schestowitz	like bush till obama won the election
[03:10]	schestowitz	then everything sagged
[03:10]	schestowitz	all at once
[03:10]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> And so you have two choices and the "LGBT" picked the murderous savages.
[03:10]	schestowitz	Muslims in general abhor LGBT
[03:11]	schestowitz	even muslims who live in the US
[03:11]	schestowitz	but they cannot speak about this as openly
[03:11]	schestowitz	if you see lgbt people online  siding with hamas
[03:11]	schestowitz	it's not because they adore muslims
[03:11]	schestowitz	usually just an excuse for some "jew bashing"
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[03:15]	TR News	Hungary: GNU/Linux up to 4% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hungary/#monthly-200901-202402
[03:15]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Hungary | Statcounter Global Stats
[03:15]	DaemonFC	Nobody thought Treasuries were especially risky until they were.
[03:15]	DaemonFC	SVB was managed by people who didn't understand interest rate and liquidity risks.
[03:16]	DaemonFC	One does not simply purchase Treasuries longer than 1 year in a low interest environment.
[03:16]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:16]	DaemonFC	Stupid fucking idiots run a bank.
[03:16]	TR News	Same in Singapore, touching 5% for GNU/Linux https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/singapore/#monthly-200901-202402
[03:16]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Singapore | Statcounter Global Stats
[03:17]	DaemonFC	They were extremely conservative in that they bought Treasuries. They took a lot of risk in Treasuries by locking in long terms at practically no interest.
[03:17]	DaemonFC	I get it, parking cash, sure. Berkshire does it.
[03:17]	DaemonFC	But they have billions and billions in T-Bills.
[03:18]	TR News	OS Platform Statistics: GNU/Linux at 4% https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
[03:18]	TR Bot	 OS Statistics
[03:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: I've been seeing a lot of "transgender Muslim" stories in the news.
[03:18]	DaemonFC	Well, a couple anyway.
[03:18]	admfubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2024/02/16/the-copia-institute-tells-the-ninth-circuit-that-the-district-court-got-it-basically-right-enjoining-californias-age-design-law/
[03:18]	TR Bot	Copia Institute Tells The Ninth Circuit That The District Court Got It Basically Right Enjoining Californias Age Design Law | Techdirt
[03:18]	DaemonFC	One was the one that violated the protection order to try to get the balls in the jar out of her ex-boyfriend's refrigerator.
[03:18]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: probably _ex_ muslim
[03:18]	schestowitz	they reject islam
[03:18]	DaemonFC	The other was a Trans Lifeline person who suicided.
[03:18]	DaemonFC	No!
[03:19]	schestowitz	but some live in a country that is muslim majority
[03:19]	DaemonFC	They said they converted to Islam as a trans person.
[03:19]	schestowitz	so they cross-dress
[03:19]	DaemonFC	I don't know how.
[03:19]	schestowitz	but cannot do all the    surgery stuff
[03:19]	schestowitz	we had one here
[03:19]	schestowitz	bnchs
[03:19]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> They said they converted to Islam as a trans person.
[03:20]	schestowitz	that's like conveting to judaism to join hamas
[03:20]	schestowitz	it makes no sense
[03:20]	schestowitz	islam has zero tolerance towards trans
[03:21]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> But they have billions and billions in T-Bills.
[03:21]	schestowitz	back to economics
[03:21]	schestowitz	not sure why you brought up those subjects
[03:21]	schestowitz	the banks will collapse again
[03:21]	schestowitz	but like in 2008, it starts with a chain reaction
[03:21]	schestowitz	as one folds
[03:21]	schestowitz	and then the chain does not hold
[03:21]	schestowitz	seE:
[03:22]	schestowitz	https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-21/swiss-brace-for-credit-suisse-bailout-costing-them-13-500-each
[03:22]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[03:22]	schestowitz	https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerland-puts-up-260-billion-francs-credit-suisse-rescue-documents-2023-03-20/
[03:22]	TR Bot	( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerland-puts-up-260-billion-francs-credit-suisse-rescue-documents-2023-03-20/ )
[03:22]	schestowitz	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65009996
[03:22]	TR Bot	 Credit Suisse: Bank rescue damages Switzerland's reputation for stability - BBC News
[03:22]	schestowitz	so the average worker pays for the greed
[03:22]	schestowitz	pays how?
[03:22]	schestowitz	inflation?
[03:22]	schestowitz	mortgage?
[03:22]	schestowitz	austerity
[03:22]	schestowitz	they pay
[03:22]	schestowitz	one way or another
[03:22]	DaemonFC	Islam considers trans people abominations to be put to death. It's quite adamant about that.
[03:23]	schestowitz	while the bankers take BONUSES
[03:23]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/18/asia_tech_news_roundup/
[03:23]	TR Bot	 India buys a third of the world's wearable devices The Register
[03:23]	DaemonFC	I don't consider trans people to be abominations worthy of death. That's way way way too far.
[03:23]	DaemonFC	But if I was a Muslim, they would never say shit about it.
[03:23]	DaemonFC	Which I find odd.
[03:23]	schestowitz	https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerlands-secretive-credit-suisse-rescue-rocks-global-finance-2023-03-21/
[03:23]	TR Bot	( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerlands-secretive-credit-suisse-rescue-rocks-global-finance-2023-03-21/ )
[03:23]	schestowitz	https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/switzerlands-secretive-credit-suisse-rescue-rocks-global-finance-2023-03-21/
[03:23]	schestowitz	https://www.theguardian.com/business/2008/oct/16/ubs-creditsuisse
[03:23]	TR Bot	 Switzerland unveils bank bail-out plan | UBS | The Guardian
[03:23]	schestowitz	https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/16/banks-credit-suisse-svb-bailout-joe-biden-taxpayer-money
[03:23]	TR Bot	 Unlike 2008, Credit Suisse and SVB havent been saved by governments. But lets not make bailout a dirty word | Jens Hagendorff | The Guardian
[03:24]	DaemonFC	Islam is the major enemy on this planet of a lot of people.
[03:24]	DaemonFC	Christians, Jews, Atheists, Gays, Trans, lots of people who Islam considers enemies and worthy of death.
[03:24]	schestowitz	humans are
[03:24]	schestowitz	not the religion
[03:24]	schestowitz	ask MinceR 
[03:24]	DaemonFC	So we should at least agree Islam is very bad stuff.
[03:25]	schestowitz	it is more brutal
[03:25]	schestowitz	compared to the average
[03:25]	schestowitz	that's why it spreads so well
[03:25]	DaemonFC	Yeah, the banks are a mess.
[03:25]	DaemonFC	Biden, Powell, Yellen, they rushed in and covered it up by abusing the Deposit Insurance Fund to cover uninsured deposits.
[03:25]	schestowitz	i am going to cover gnu/linux today
[03:25]	schestowitz	as there is a lack of analysis
[03:26]	DaemonFC	But the next banks will fail before the DIF is replenished thanks to this.
[03:26]	schestowitz	in fact, a lack of everything
[03:26]	schestowitz	thee blogs rot away
[03:26]	schestowitz	we need to dig deeper and deeper in recent years
[03:26]	schestowitz	OMGJoey is shallow
[03:26]	DaemonFC	Only covering insured deposits should be a hard rule.
[03:26]	schestowitz	phoronix is... LKML and github linkbait+ads
[03:26]	DaemonFC	But they were more concerned with whether tech completely unraveled and exposed the economy as having no clothes before the election.
[03:27]	DaemonFC	So they covered these bad banks to protect tech nonsense.
[03:27]	schestowitz	it doesn't
[03:27]	schestowitz	they delay
[03:27]	schestowitz	till november
[03:27]	DaemonFC	Yes.
[03:27]	DaemonFC	They hope.
[03:27]	schestowitz	anyway, backlog
[03:27]	schestowitz	backfile
[03:27]	DaemonFC	They hope they can move shit around until it's too late to fall apart while voters can still throw Biden out.
[03:27]	schestowitz	some people stockpile
[03:28]	DaemonFC	Then we get another 4 years of misery and can't punish the administration because it all "looked fine" when people were voting.
[03:28]	schestowitz	I bought vitC supplements yesterday to last about 3 years
[03:28]	DaemonFC	They'll probably get us $2.50 a gallon gas for like a month like they always do.
[03:28]	schestowitz	those are getting ridiculously expensive
[03:28]	schestowitz	as does fruit
[03:28]	DaemonFC	They want people in a good mood and then it all hits the fan.
[03:28]	DaemonFC	That's what they do with elections.
[03:28]	schestowitz	in the main chains you not get about 3 apples for a pound
[03:28]	DaemonFC	Then nobody remembers and they all fall for it again.
[03:28]	schestowitz	or oranges
[03:28]	schestowitz	some shops sell more per pound, buut they "shrinkflate"
[03:29]	schestowitz	fewer fruit, smaller fruit, increase in price
[03:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The State I live in has the worst finances in America.
[03:29]	DaemonFC	They sent us $50 "tax rebate checks" before the last election so Pritzker would win.
[03:29]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> That's what they do with elections.
[03:29]	schestowitz	2008
[03:29]	DaemonFC	Butter people up with their own money. Raise taxes right after the election.
[03:29]	schestowitz	bush put plaster on
[03:29]	schestowitz	mccain lost
[03:29]	schestowitz	economy sank
[03:30]	DaemonFC	That's all the government does with transfer payments.
[03:30]	DaemonFC	Make you feel good while they need your vote.
[03:30]	DaemonFC	Then hang you out to dry next month.
[03:30]	schestowitz	that is why the issue won't  be solved
[03:30]	schestowitz	they aim for elections
[03:30]	schestowitz	bids for big events
[03:30]	schestowitz	world cup, olympics..
[03:30]	schestowitz	run up debt
[03:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: MARISOL complained that we got "stimulus checks" and they made too much money, then demanded I give her ours.
[03:31]	schestowitz	state and national
[03:31]	schestowitz	"reinvigorate" the economy
[03:31]	DaemonFC	She feels entitled to everything. She tries to control everyone around her.
[03:31]	schestowitz	paying it back  will be another leader's issue
[03:31]	schestowitz	and then the next
[03:31]	schestowitz	and the next after that
[03:31]	schestowitz	so they try to impress people
[03:31]	schestowitz	by borrowing and spending
[03:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: she used to come in where Mandy went to school and eat his lunch.
[03:32]	DaemonFC	Like, drove to another city just to eat his sandwich or something I made for him.
[03:32]	schestowitz	lol
[03:32]	schestowitz	she sounds rich
[03:32]	schestowitz	3 cars
[03:32]	schestowitz	if two break down
[03:32]	schestowitz	she can use the third
[03:32]	DaemonFC	One day, he brought lunch for himself, and some chicken noodle soup I made that had been in the fridge for like 6 days.
[03:32]	DaemonFC	He fed her the soup.
[03:32]	schestowitz	to drive out to take DaemonFC-made snacks
[03:33]	schestowitz	she has no plates left
[03:33]	schestowitz	needs mandy's
[03:33]	schestowitz	she ran out of "ammo"
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Throws them all at Mark.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Puts more on "Mark's" credit card.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Throws them again.
[03:33]	schestowitz	yesterday I built a cabinet
[03:34]	schestowitz	it was sold cheaply, flat packed
[03:34]	schestowitz	i know why cheaply
[03:34]	schestowitz	slight imperfections
[03:34]	schestowitz	i think the metal cutter did not function correctly
[03:34]	schestowitz	so I had to extend a few screw holes forcibly
[03:34]	schestowitz	but it's shiny and new
[03:35]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: re mandy:
[03:36]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality
[03:36]	TR Bot	 Crab mentality - Wikipedia
[03:36]	schestowitz	this is what marisol does to you
[03:36]	schestowitz	if you are relatively happy
[03:37]	schestowitz	or stress free
[03:37]	schestowitz	she will try to tear you down
[03:37]	schestowitz	and because rianne and I are happy and do well
[03:37]	schestowitz	there are some "crabs" working constantly to harass and commit crimes
[03:37]	schestowitz	anyway, I will do the next part later today
[03:37]	schestowitz	the monday series 
[03:38]	schestowitz	i limit this to once per wek
[03:38]	schestowitz	i.e. less than 2% of the TR article
[03:38]	schestowitz	so we can focus on the real things
[03:38]	schestowitz	"Crab mentality, also known as crab theory,[1][2] crabs in a bucket[a] mentality, or the crab-bucket effect, is a way of thinking best described by the phrase "if I can't have it, neither can you""
[03:38]	schestowitz	"The metaphor is derived from anecdotal claims about the behavior of crabs when they are trapped in a bucket: while any one crab can easily start to climb out,[4] it will nonetheless be pulled back in by the others, ensuring the group's collective demise"
[03:39]	schestowitz	"The analogous theory in human behavior is that members of a group will attempt to reduce the self-confidence of any member who achieves success beyond others, out of envy, jealousy, resentment, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings, in order to halt their progress.[8][9][10][11] Similar concepts are embodied in the English phrase "tall poppy syndrome" in Australia and New Zealand and in the Law of Jante, an informal code of condu
[03:39]	schestowitz	ct observed in the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Sweden and Norway. "
[03:39]	schestowitz	that's marisol in  a nutshells
[03:39]	schestowitz	societies that are like this perish
[03:39]	schestowitz	lack of cooperation
[03:40]	schestowitz	and too much coveting, envy
[03:40]	schestowitz	even accusing people or "rape" where none existed
[03:40]	schestowitz	and backpedalling when people find out it is libel
[03:40]	schestowitz	https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Crab%20Culture
[03:40]	TR Bot	 Urban Dictionary: Crab Culture
[03:40]	schestowitz	"The rising sensation of the urge to pinch someone. Often times very violently."
[03:41]	schestowitz	don't be a crab
[03:41]	schestowitz	cooperate, collaborate
[03:41]	schestowitz	of collectively suffer
[03:42]	schestowitz	opposite of "ubuntu"
[03:42]	DaemonFC	I won't touch Ubuntu for a lot of reasons.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Mostly incompetence.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Snap has managed to cause another security issue.
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[03:42]	schestowitz	wb
[03:43]	schestowitz	don't fight
[03:43]	schestowitz	just keep distance
[03:43]	arkanian	thanks schestowitz 
[03:43]	DaemonFC	The media says "Linux". But you can't get to this situation without Snap and Command Not Found.
[03:43]	arkanian	I won't fight :)
[03:43]	TR News	"For those who haven't read my first gem log, I started learning to program last year, and my first language was JavaScript. During that time, I was fumbling in the dark with the language. Looking back, I'm glad it was javascript because I _cannot_ imagine writing in Rust before reading the documentation thoroughly." gemini://vagabond.sh/log/posts/2024-02-18-rust-progress.gmi
[03:43]	schestowitz	https://effectiviology.com/crab-mentality/
[03:44]	TR Bot	Mentality: When People Pull Down Those Who Get Ahead Effectiviology
[03:44]	schestowitz	"Crab mentality is a phenomenon where people react negatively, in terms of their thoughts, statements, or actions, to those who get ahead of them, even though they dont expect there to be direct benefits to doing so. For example, crab mentality can cause someone to discourage or sabotage their friend who is starting to do well at school, simply because theyre bitter about struggling with their own studies."
[03:44]	schestowitz	happens in africa also
[03:44]	schestowitz	where they really adopt the concept of ubuntu they can get ahead
[03:44]	schestowitz	and build a barn/village
[03:45]	schestowitz	midrosoft is antithetical to all this
[03:45]	schestowitz	it does not try to improve
[03:45]	schestowitz	it just try to sabotage the alternatives, since the 1980s if not 70s
[03:45]	schestowitz	"One example of crab mentality is someone who spreads malicious rumors in their workplace about a coworker who is up for a promotion, even though they dont benefit from spreading these rumors."
[03:45]	arkanian	schestowitz: is ubuntu where the distro got its name?
[03:45]	schestowitz	"Another example of crab mentality appears in a study that examined students behavior in situations where crab mentality is an accepted norm. Specifically, the researchers found that when students expect to be bullied for having higher-than-average achievement in school, they are more likely to do badly on exams, likely to ensure that their grades wont stand out. Accordingly, when the student rankings were made private, which mad
[03:45]	schestowitz	e it more difficult to discover what grade each student got, the students exam performance improved."
[03:46]	schestowitz	arkanian: it started this way
[03:46]	schestowitz	shuttleworth as debian dev from south africa
[03:46]	schestowitz	and they built a community very fast
[03:46]	schestowitz	many volunteers
[03:46]	schestowitz	later they would cut them off
[03:47]	schestowitz	and chose corporate partners instead. raspi is doing something similar now.
[03:47]	arkanian	I used ubuntu until unity became the default and I've been using debian ever since
[03:47]	schestowitz	"    Crab mentality can harm the performance of the people that its being directed against, and can also hurt them in other ways, such as by causing them to feel isolated.
[03:47]	schestowitz	    Crab mentality can hinder the ability of individuals within groups to work together, and hinder the ability of different groups to collaborate with each other.
[03:47]	schestowitz	    Crab mentality can make the general group environment much more unpleasant.
[03:47]	schestowitz	    Crab mentality can cause the people who have it to waste time doing things that dont benefit them.
[03:47]	schestowitz	    Crab mentality can amplify negative emotions, such as greed and jealousy, among the people who have it.
[03:47]	schestowitz	    Crab mentality can cause people to act in a way that is socially undesirable, and consequently to push other people away."
[03:48]	schestowitz	"The first step to avoiding a crab mentality is to recognize the fact that youre displaying it, or that youre about to do so. You can do this by going over the common signs of crab mentality, but the main key thing to consider is whether your thoughts, statements, or actions involve discouraging or sabotaging someone for no good reason."
[03:48]	schestowitz	"Once you realize that you have crab mentality, you should try to resolve the underlying issues that are causing you to display it in the first place. For example, if your issue is that you suffer from the zero-sum bias, which means that you tend to assume that other peoples accomplishments necessarily detract from your own, you can try to slow down and consider whether this is actually the case."
[03:49]	schestowitz	"Finally, in some cases, the best long-term solution is to simply distance yourself from people who display crab mentality. This isnt always an option, for example if your colleagues are the ones displaying crab mentality and changing jobs isnt currently an option, but it is something that you can do in some cases, such as when it comes to your circle of friends.'
[03:49]	schestowitz	we had crabs in Sirius
[03:49]	schestowitz	always sucking up to the CEO
[03:49]	schestowitz	even to the point of burning others
[03:50]	schestowitz	seems like a typical scenario in every company
[03:50]	schestowitz	"Crab mentality is often described as being particularly characteristic of certain cultures, and especially Philippine culture. In this context, its sometimes also referred to using similar terms, that are based on the Filipino Tagalog language, such as kanya-kanya syndrome, talangka [crab] mentality, isip talangka [thinking like a crab], and utak talangka [crab brain]."
[03:51]	DaemonFC	I liked Ubuntu at first.
[03:51]	schestowitz	"To deal with crab mentality in others, you can either try to reduce this mentality directly, by using similar methods as you would use to avoid crab mentality in yourself, or you can focus on your own mindset and actions instead, for example by realizing that peoples crab mentality is driven primarily by their own issues, rather than by anything that you did."
[03:51]	DaemonFC	It didn't really become truly enshittified until 2011 or so.
[03:51]	schestowitz	mono?
[03:51]	schestowitz	by default?
[03:51]	schestowitz	tomboy...
[03:51]	schestowitz	(alex graveley)
[03:51]	schestowitz	later microsoft
[03:52]	schestowitz	microsoft threw team mono under the bus a couple of years ago
[03:52]	schestowitz	they had become a liability
[03:52]	schestowitz	naked parties, strangling women..
[03:53]	arkanian	alex graveley wrote tomboy?
[03:53]	schestowitz	yes
[03:53]	schestowitz	poorly
[03:53]	schestowitz	hub later rewrote it as gnote
[03:53]	DaemonFC	Unity.
[03:53]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/o/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/
[03:53]	TR Bot	 Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VIII Mr. Graveley's Long Career Serving Microsoft's Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHub's GPL Violations Machine)
[03:53]	DaemonFC	Then the Shopping Lens that was spyware.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	Snaps.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	I mean it just didn't suddenly go bad. Now, you can run it with KDE and they're not breaking it by patching applications for Unity anymore.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	But that doesn't mean they're doing nothing bad.
[03:54]	schestowitz	Snaps are about control
[03:54]	schestowitz	same issue with flathub
[03:55]	schestowitz	they want to convert the control into money
[03:55]	DaemonFC	Flatpak isn't _as_ bad.
[03:55]	schestowitz	somehow
[03:55]	schestowitz	flatfak is free software
[03:55]	DaemonFC	Snap is totally proprietary.
[03:55]	schestowitz	you can make your own hub
[03:55]	schestowitz	cannot with snap
[03:55]	DaemonFC	A client side that doesn't do anything without a single implementation that they won't document on the server is not Free.
[03:56]	schestowitz	security issues also
[03:56]	schestowitz	every year
[03:56]	darwin	software bloat continues as I can no longer compile nodejs on my 64GB RAM Ryzen 9 3950X server and such projects are making the claim 64GB RAM is 'low-end' and expecting PCs people compile on have 128GB or maybe 256+GB or as much as HP Z workstations (several TB?)
[03:56]	schestowitz	new issue every year
[03:56]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: I was one of the people rooting for the "Free Software Only" option in Ubuntu.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	They did that and then they took it away again.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	It still had proprietary firmwares, but I end up with those anyway.
[03:56]	schestowitz	with dpkg, apt, apt-get etc. the flaws are not common
[03:57]	darwin	i see dependency Hell on Debian-based OS to this day
[03:57]	darwin	they claimed it went away after the 1990s but never really did
[03:57]	schestowitz	more wifi devices now work without the blobs
[03:57]	DaemonFC	I figured that it would be there even if not as a default that someone could choose not to have any non-Free packages when the system rebooted.
[03:57]	schestowitz	not all, but more
[03:57]	DaemonFC	I actually think the situation got worse with WiFi.
[03:57]	DaemonFC	I was running Broadcom with Free Firmware well over a decade ago.
[03:58]	schestowitz	depends on OEM
[03:58]	DaemonFC	They wrote Free Firmware for it because the other option was strip it out of a Windows XP driver and violate the license on that.
[03:58]	schestowitz	darwin: it can never be pefect
[03:58]	DaemonFC	When OEMs make non-Free Firmware redistributable, it always kills the Free replacement work.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	Because people lose interest because now the hardware works.
[03:59]	schestowitz	also depends, if they can retain good developers and maintainers
[03:59]	DaemonFC	I was happier that at least I could run a major device without the proprietary firmware.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Even if I had others that were not Free.
● Feb 19
[04:00]	DaemonFC	I didn't use Tomboy.
[04:00]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: in the case of wifi, a bigger issue is the router
[04:00]	schestowitz	or hub
[04:00]	schestowitz	few people use free software on it
[04:00]	schestowitz	not even us
[04:00]	DaemonFC	If I had a distribution that installed Mono software, I purged all of it as soon a I was booted into the system.
[04:00]	schestowitz	it also replaces the underlying OS each time you reboot
[04:01]	schestowitz	it is like they bootstrap it over the network now
[04:01]	DaemonFC	.Net is poorly made, and Mono copies poor design because you have to in order to be compatible with it.
[04:01]	schestowitz	and so it can take 3 minutes to reboot
[04:01]	schestowitz	since a decade back
[04:01]	schestowitz	.NET generally failed
[04:01]	DaemonFC	On Windows, there is a parade of versioning spew for .Net and if you remove any version of it, nothing that needs that version will work.
[04:01]	schestowitz	it never replaced Java
[04:01]	schestowitz	nor did c#
[04:02]	schestowitz	or ASP stuff
[04:02]	DaemonFC	So you have some pretty old version that are still available in the "Windows Features".
[04:02]	schestowitz	ASP is very rare on the Web now
[04:02]	schestowitz	you know it's there when it is there
[04:02]	schestowitz	as it avertises itself
[04:02]	schestowitz	.aspx in pages
[04:02]	darwin	what's considered a high-end amount of workstation RAM these days?
[04:02]	schestowitz	but it's like 1% of sites
[04:02]	DaemonFC	darwin: 32 GB is pretty big.
[04:02]	darwin	i think Rust and KDE were saying this also
[04:02]	schestowitz	darwin: 64
[04:02]	DaemonFC	16 is typical.
[04:02]	darwin	that 64GB is low-end
[04:02]	darwin	you can't compile some of these things with that much anymore
[04:03]	schestowitz	this machine is 2
[04:03]	darwin	maybe if you reduce threads
[04:03]	schestowitz	almost all our machines are 2
[04:03]	DaemonFC	You can compile things that need more than 16 with 16.
[04:03]	darwin	64GB was high-end in 2006 when I got a Tyan K8QSD Pro which could run CoreBoot
[04:03]	DaemonFC	But you have to resort to hackery as far as memory management or else it gets very painful, if you're compiling Chromium or Android or something.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	But Pale Moon doesn't even have Rust.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	So I'm a happy camper.
[04:03]	darwin	good
[04:03]	DaemonFC	Even SeaMonkey has some Rust.
[04:04]	schestowitz	your os will have rust
[04:04]	schestowitz	in the kernel
[04:04]	schestowitz	but it's a binary file
[04:04]	schestowitz	so you won't notice
[04:04]	DaemonFC	It seems that instead of giving up and making Rust a requirement, Goanna is implementing CSS features themselves now.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	Using C++ that was never in Gecko.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	So fuck stylo.
[04:05]	DaemonFC	I just don't think there will be that many less CVEs in Firefox.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	It's a sprawling base of code and Rust keeps getting emergency fixes for itself.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	And all the Rust code in there is a lot newer.
[04:06]	arkanian	I have 16GB and that's not enough to compile Android
[04:06]	DaemonFC	And 88% of Firefox is still the old C++ Gecko code.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	And after the three rounds of Mozilla layoffs, who will write more?
[04:07]	schestowitz	baker
[04:07]	DaemonFC	Maybe some small modules, but they were picking off the easy stuff before the layoffs.
[04:07]	schestowitz	the lizard wrangler
[04:07]	DaemonFC	So how many of those are left?
[04:08]	schestowitz	rust was a vanity project supported by Google
[04:08]	schestowitz	Golanf never became very big
[04:08]	DaemonFC	Calling Goanna "Just an old version of Firefox" is clearly inappropriate. SeaMonkey is more like what they're trying to get you to imagine Pale Moon as.
[04:08]	schestowitz	they also hired mr python and mr perl
[04:08]	DaemonFC	"Browsing with Firefox 52 forever."
[04:09]	schestowitz	variousl lnguages they made failed
[04:09]	schestowitz	and soon forgotten
[04:09]	DaemonFC	Pale Moon actually loads a lot of "modern" sites SeaMonkey doesn't.
[04:09]	schestowitz	those are probably not sites
[04:09]	DaemonFC	SeaMonkey is whatever's left of the Suite, based on Firefox 52, with 6,500 patches that nobody has cleanly documented what they are.
[04:09]	schestowitz	but nett addresses
[04:09]	schestowitz	or web addresses
[04:10]	DaemonFC	And those patches are not even cleanly separated to add one thing at a time.
[04:10]	schestowitz	for running some JS program and WASMisms
[04:10]	DaemonFC	It's a total mess.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	All of the documentation is what someone talked about on Libera Chat and then didn't write down.
[04:10]	schestowitz	company sends you email [sic]
[04:10]	schestowitz	the email is not email
[04:10]	schestowitz	it's a web page
[04:10]	schestowitz	inside an email enclosure
[04:11]	schestowitz	it links to "site"
[04:11]	schestowitz	the site is not a web page
[04:11]	schestowitz	it just fetches proprietary program
[04:11]	schestowitz	tested with some other proprietary programs
[04:11]	schestowitz	or OSPS
[04:11]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/23/All_Modern_Web_Browsers_Are_OSPS_Proprietary_in_Open_Clothing.shtml
[04:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights All "Modern" Web Browsers Are OSPS (Proprietary in 'Open' Clothing)
[04:12]	DaemonFC	SeaMonkey was just "the suite" and then Mozilla grew disinterested in it, then hostile towards it, and breaking things just to hurt them.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	Then said "Get off our lawn!"
[04:13]	DaemonFC	The whole reason for Firefox was "People are too stupid to use an Internet Suite."
[04:13]	DaemonFC	"Here, use Thunderbird. Now you can load Gecko again to handle your E-Mail."
[04:14]	DaemonFC	Then "Firefox and Thunderbird are using dozens of processes each, which all load another copy of everything!"
[04:14]	DaemonFC	Then "Nobody really needs Thunderbird because everyone uses GMail so we'll put that under a subsidiary called MZLA and start SeaMonkeying them too."
[04:15]	schestowitz	now they turn it into app
[04:15]	schestowitz	and make "partnership" with an "app" company
[04:15]	schestowitz	i forgot its name
[04:16]	schestowitz	letter-numeric something
[04:16]	schestowitz	probably furnishing their userbase is the goall
[04:16]	schestowitz	or the business model
[04:16]	schestowitz	to convert thunderbird users into some "app"
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Here's what I said about Brave:
[04:21]	DaemonFC	> Brave is just getting to be completely ridiculous. First it was crypto crap, which you should turn of because their partners are really shady. Then they added IPFS, which is......turning into a great way for criminals to operate. Then they added NFTs. Now they have a chatbot, but not just any chatbot. One you can pay $24.95 a month for. Don't know why you would.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	> Maybe it will come with an "AI Waifu".
[04:21]	DaemonFC	> Of course, this will eventually be another thing Mozilla tries to hamfist into Firefox to be compiled out by the forks.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	> Mozilla's won't be edgy because an "AI Waifu" is not politically correctu.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=30826&sid=d12086f4d5eea3a9e8ee69a73e14457a
[04:26]	TR Bot	 Basilisk 2024.02.03 Released! - Pale Moon forum
[04:26]	DaemonFC	> Re: Basilisk 2024.02.03 Released!
[04:26]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by athenian200 2024-02-06, 13:39
[04:26]	DaemonFC	>     sosolidshoe wrote: 
[04:26]	DaemonFC	>     2024-02-06, 13:29
[04:26]	DaemonFC	>     Yeah I'm not savvy enough to understand why it's broken or why Moonchild is over it, but I'm not browsing naked and I'm not learning a whole new addon when NS works fine everywhere else it's available. Time to move on. Thanks for responding. 
[04:26]	DaemonFC	> Well, the fact is, WebExtensions are so locked down and limited that extensions like NoScript can't really reach into the browser internals deeply enough to cause damage on other browsers. That's why it seems to "work better" on other engines, because it just isn't the same extension at all anymore. In fact, extensions like NoScript are basically the reason why XUL was killed off in the first place by Mozilla. (Not the only one, obviously, but a big 
[04:26]	DaemonFC	one).
[04:26]	DaemonFC	> But here, XUL gives extensions a lot of power, and NoScript uses that power irresponsibly. Mozilla decided getting rid of XUL entirely was the way forward, we just decided on refusing to support NoScript instead. That said, that's an MCP policy, and it's not actually clear where Basilisk comes down on this issue. If someone else, like say Basilisk-Dev, wants to try and patch things up to avoid NoScript crashes, then we will take the patches as long as 
[04:26]	DaemonFC	they don't hurt anything else. We just aren't interested in writing them or trying to support an extension as busted as NoScript, and resent entitled users demanding fixes for an extension that we have told them repeatedly not to use, for years.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	> "The Athenians, however, represent the unity of these opposites; in them, mind or spirit has emerged from the Theban subjectivity without losing itself in the Spartan objectivity of ethical life. With the Athenians, the rights of the State and of the individual found as perfect a union as was possible at all at the level of the Greek spirit." -- Hegel's philosophy of Mind
[04:26]	DaemonFC	---
[04:27]	DaemonFC	I would like to see where there are "NoScript crashes" in the XUL version.
[04:27]	schestowitz	"sosolidshoe"
[04:27]	DaemonFC	The developer was caught doing some seedy things involving Adblock Plus at one point.
[04:27]	schestowitz	seedy?
[04:28]	DaemonFC	Yeah, during the XUL days.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	He reached into Adblock Plus and shoved whitelists for his own ads on his sites.
[04:29]	DaemonFC	Then if the user noticed and removed them, they just came back the next time they restarted Firefox.
[04:29]	schestowitz	that was their business model
[04:29]	DaemonFC	:)
[04:29]	schestowitz	pay us to ublock you
[04:29]	DaemonFC	At that point, I don't think it was.
[04:29]	schestowitz	the word or sland seedy is new to me
[04:29]	schestowitz	*slang
[04:29]	schestowitz	and i know it's not like "cum-stained sweatpants" troll
[04:30]	DaemonFC	https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seedy
[04:30]	TR Bot	Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
[04:30]	schestowitz	anyway, sometimes projects are like this
[04:30]	schestowitz	someone enters
[04:30]	schestowitz	not for code
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> seedy
[04:30]	schestowitz	or project reach
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> adjective
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> s-d 
[04:30]	schestowitz	or awareness
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> seedier; seediest
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> Synonyms of seedy
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> 1
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> : containing or full of seeds
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> a seedy fruit
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> 2
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> : inferior in condition or quality: such as
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> a
[04:30]	schestowitz	see debian with bully de blanc
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> : shabby, run-down
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> seedy clothes
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> b
[04:30]	schestowitz	what did she contribute?
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> : somewhat disreputable
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> a seedy district
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> a seedy lawyer
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> c
[04:30]	schestowitz	some people enter orgs
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> : slightly unwell : debilitated
[04:30]	DaemonFC	> felt seedy and went home early
[04:30]	DaemonFC	Pushing people around.
[04:31]	DaemonFC	Non-Contributing Developer of Debian.
[04:31]	schestowitz	to promote a political cause inside a technical project
[04:31]	DaemonFC	:)
[04:31]	schestowitz	first thing to come is CoC
[04:31]	schestowitz	it does not govern technical work
[04:31]	schestowitz	but things like pronouns
[04:32]	schestowitz	"my cat is they"
[04:32]	schestowitz	"prove me wrong" (meme)
[04:34]	DaemonFC	I don't know. Define "Good" software.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	In some ways, Pale Moon is worse than Firefox, in other ways better.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	It's got a bunch of tabs open right now and using less than 1 GB of RAM.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	I haven't seen Firefox do that lately.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	http://photos.historical-markers.org/Indiana/Marion-County/IN-49_2007_1-1907-Indiana-Eugenics-Law
[04:39]	TR Bot	 IN-49.2007.1 - 1907 Indiana Eugenics Law
[04:39]	DaemonFC	They missed Gonad's family.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Somehow.
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Everyone down to his Great Grandchildren are paupers, criminals, and public masturbators.
[04:40]	DaemonFC	I can't imagine that his ancestors weren't.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/indianas-pro-life-anti-eugenics-law-struck-down-by-federal-judge/
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Indianas Pro-Life Anti-Eugenics Law Struck Down by Federal Judge
[04:42]	DaemonFC	Doesn't really matter much.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	Abortion is illegal in Indiana now.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	https://eu.thestarpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/2016/03/09/sadly-indiana-pioneered-eugenics/81495768/
[04:42]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://eu.thestarpress.com/story/opinion/columnists/2016/03/09/sadly-indiana-pioneered-eugenics/81495768/ )
[04:43]	DaemonFC	"In 1905, the legislature prohibited marriage licenses for imbeciles, epileptics and those of unsound mind. "
[04:44]	DaemonFC	It's not banned anymore, but a lot of States allow you to file for an annulment if you find out your spouse is crazy within 90 days or so.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	"Money back guarantee!"
[04:48]	DaemonFC	"Why was Indiana first? A Hoosier doctor, Harry Clay Sharp, pioneered the vasectomy as a safer, less painful alternative to castration. Sharp performed the operation on about 225 prisoners at the Indiana Reformatory in Jeffersonville before the state had a law allowing it. The 1907 law is in some ways a reaction to Harry Sharp, Lantzer explains."
[04:48]	DaemonFC	LOL
[04:48]	DaemonFC	He provided his services to all the men of an entire prison.
[04:49]	DaemonFC	Now men are going "I can't afford kids!" and running to a vasectomy doctor with $3,000 in their hand going "TAKE IT! TAKE IT!!!"
[04:51]	DaemonFC	> Eugenics sputtered along for the next several years. In 1927, the U.S. Supreme Court reviewed a Virginia law, which authorized sterilization of inmates suffering from insanity, idiocy, and epilepsy, among other traits. The law had been written with procedural protections so it might pass constitutional muster. In upholding the law, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes famously wrote, Three generations of imbeciles are enough. 
[04:51]	DaemonFC	> The ruling in Buck vs. Bell led to an immediate rise in forced sterilizations across the country, and prompted Indiana to write a new law with a guaranteed appeals process. 
[04:51]	DaemonFC	"Eugenics lost favor in the 1940s and 1950s, due to Nazi Germanys barbaric practices and the United States reawakened awareness of individual rights. By then, an estimated 65,000 people had undergone sterilization nationwide with California most aggressive at 20,000. Indianas 2,400 paled by comparison."
[04:52]	DaemonFC	----
[04:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Of course California was aggressive with Eugenics.
[04:52]	DaemonFC	They have some of the worst vagrancy laws in America.
[04:52]	DaemonFC	And they're trying to get the Republicans on the Supreme Court to let them criminalize homelessness again.
[04:53]	DaemonFC	They have a lot of nerve complaining about a 6-3 Republican majority and then going and asking the Republicans for this.
[04:54]	DaemonFC	They want to hurry up and get that before any of the Republicans have a chance to die or something and they aren't as likely to get it.
[04:54]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-texas-came-to-rival-new-york-as-a-finance-hub-145712336.html
[04:54]	TR Bot	 How Texas came to rival New York as a finance hub
[04:54]	DaemonFC	My guess is that it's because Texas doesn't have the Department of "Financial Services".
[04:55]	DaemonFC	It's regulation shopping.
[04:56]	DaemonFC	Banks can go to Texas and there won't be much in the way of State banking supervision.
[04:56]	DaemonFC	The feds are a lot slower to react to things than NY DFS.
[04:56]	DaemonFC	So the banks want to go to Texas and have years and years to get away with more crimes and funny business and funny business that should be crimes with less regulators breathing down their necks.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	> The office of the state's attorney general, Ken Paxton, is currently reviewing anti-firearm policies of JPMorgan and Bank of America as well as environmental, social, and governance policies of other banks.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	> The state has a law in place barring certain government contracts with companies that have anti-gun business practices.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	I don't do business with Chase for a lot of reasons.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	They ate some bad loans though.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	The problem with Texas isn't that they're trying to protect our Second Amendment rights.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	That's a very important right.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	The problem with Texas isn't that they're trying to repel an invasion that Biden is ignoring.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	They shouldn't have to but it's good that they do what they can.
[04:59]	DaemonFC	The problem with Texas is that like most States, they support "Constitutional Rights" that the governing party likes, and its own interpretation of them, and not others.
● Feb 19
[05:07]	DaemonFC	The good news is that NoScript XUL is open source.
[05:07]	DaemonFC	So someone could clean it up and better adapt it to Pale Moon.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	But as long as it works probably nobody will.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	The good news is it works well enough.
[05:13]	TR News	Techrights Freeloading Patent Monopolies in Europe (Typically Granted to Non-European Corporations) While the 'EPO Mafia' is "Frontloading" http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Freeloading_Patent_Monopolies_in_Europe_Typically_Granted_to_No.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Freeloading_Patent_Monopolies_in_Europe_Typically_Granted_to_No.gmi 
[05:13]	TR Bot	 Techrights Freeloading Patent Monopolies in Europe (Typically Granted to Non-European Corporations) While the 'EPO Mafia' is "Frontloading"
[05:23]	TR News	Techrights [Meme] All Quiet On The Munich Front http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Meme_All_Quiet_On_The_Munich_Front.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Meme_All_Quiet_On_The_Munich_Front.gmi 
[05:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] All Quiet On The Munich Front
[05:24]		*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
[05:26]	TR News	"I've written before about how people's soon to expire TLS certificates" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/TLSCertsSomeStillManual | Source: University of Toronto
[05:26]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/TLSCertsSomeStillManual
[05:26]	TR News	"Before I get into the why of this post, let me give you its what . . ." https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2024/02/using-lightning-css-hugo-back-workaround/ | Source: Bryce Wray
[05:26]	TR Bot	LightningCSS withHugo: backto theworkaround | BryceWray.com
[05:27]	TR News	"This philosophy I transfer to pretty much everything in life." https://arjenwiersma.nl/posts/my-computing-environment/ | Source: Arjen Wiersma
[05:27]	TR Bot	 My computing environment | Arjen Wiersma
[05:27]	TR News	"I dropped a light/dark theme toggle into the navigation of my site" https://coryd.dev/posts/2024/adding-a-light-dark-theme-toggle/ | Source: Cory Dransfeldt
[05:27]	TR Bot	 Adding a light/dark theme toggle Cory Dransfeldt
[05:28]	TR News	"It's that time of the year again." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20240218142251 | Source: Undeadly
[05:28]	TR Bot	 OpenBSD -current moves to 7.5-beta
[05:28]	TR News	"In 2020, I stole @gonzalos idea for a status bar using only XTerm and stock OpenBSD tools." https://www.tumfatig.net/terminal-status-bar-updated/ | Source: TuMFatig
[05:28]	TR Bot	 TuM'Fatig - A Terminal Status Bar updated
[05:29]	TR News	Open Hardware: "In my previous post, I thought I had both BBCs fully working and almost complete." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2024/02/18/bbc-micro-restoration-part-3/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
[05:29]	TR Bot	 BBC Micro: Restoration part3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[05:29]	TR News	"Chocolate is fundamentally finicky to print, and not just in traditional 3D printing ways." https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/17/24074150/cocoa-press-3d-printed-chocolate | Source: The Verge
[05:29]	TR Bot	 I printed chocolate on a 3D printer and ate it - The Verge
[05:30]	TR News	"In todays installment of 8-bit Software Fun" https://rubenerd.com/8-bit-software-fun-starting-with-a-commodore/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[05:30]	TR Bot	8-Bit Software Fun: Starting with a Commodore
[05:30]	TR News	"This blog will explore how computer vision and an embedded machine learning (ML) image classification model can be deployed to an Arm" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/machine-learning-powered-ev-charger-availability-detection-with-raspberry-pi-pico-w/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[05:30]	TR Bot	 Machine Learning-powered EV charger availability detection with Raspberry Pi Pico W - Raspberry Pi
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[05:33]	TR News	"Last night, I fired up my Amiga 2000 020 and started running through some of the demos" https://bytecellar.com/2024/02/17/qd-enjoying-some-demos-on-the-amiga-2000/ | Source: Byte Cellar
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Q&D: Enjoying Some Demos on the Amiga 2000 - Byte Cellar
[05:34]	TR News	"RISC-V Assembly Language Programming: Unlock the Power of the RISC-V Instruction Set" https://smist08.wordpress.com/2024/02/16/risc-v-assembly-language-programming/ | Source: Stephen Smith
[05:34]	TR Bot	 RISC-V Assembly Language Programming | Stephen Smith's Blog
[05:34]	TR News	"The servomotors in the CADC are unlike standard motors." http://www.righto.com/2024/02/bendix-cadc-servomotor-tachometer.html | Source: Ken Shirriff
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Inside the mechanical Bendix Air Data Computer, part 5: motor/tachometers
[05:34]	TR News	"The amount of traffic we get isnt that crazy." https://alexcabal.com/posts/standard-ebooks-and-classic-web-tech |
[05:35]	TR Bot	 How Standard Ebooks serves millions of requests per month with a 2GB VPS; or, a paean to the classic web - Alex Cabal
[05:36]	TR News	"As usual I got a TON of great answers and learned about a bunch of very popular git config options" https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/02/16/popular-git-config-options/ | Source: Julia Evans
[05:36]	TR Bot	 Popular git config options
[05:36]	TR News	"Just a quick recap: the strategy pattern is a design approach" https://rednafi.com/go/strategy_pattern/ | Source: Redowan Delowar
[05:36]	TR Bot	 Strategy pattern in Go | Redowan's Reflections
[05:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: It's almost impossible to follow Firefox development anymore anyway.
[05:50]	DaemonFC	They've switched to a lot of proprietary things.
[05:51]	schestowitz	github and?
[05:52]	TR News	"We live in the future now. It is OK to use Unicode everywhere." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2024/02/internationalise-the-fediverse/ | Source: Terence Eden
[05:52]	TR Bot	 Internationalise The Fediverse Terence Edens Blog
[05:52]	DaemonFC	Google.
[05:53]	DaemonFC	Matrix. (Might as well be proprietary. Only works in "modern" browsers and forces the user to pick a central server which bans other servers.)
[05:53]	DaemonFC	(If you use another server, you may not be able to use matrix.org rooms.)
[05:53]	DaemonFC	"Fediverse Crap"
[05:54]	DaemonFC	Matrix.org sez "Anyone we don't agree with is a Nazi who molests kids. No we can't back that up. Oh look, a squirrel!" :P (I jest.)
[05:58]	DaemonFC	That's basically how Fediverse moderation works.
[05:58]	DaemonFC	Just accuse it of something really bad then no more federation.
[05:59]	DaemonFC	So now you need 3-4 copies of Element on several different servers in multiple browser tabs.
[05:59]	DaemonFC	It's a cute idea, but fragile and difficult people building fediverse software that's more about censorship and control means it'll never really be viable.
● Feb 19
[06:01]	DaemonFC	Parler says it'll be in the Play Store and Apple store again soon.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	Which must mean that they've "made agreements".
[06:01]	DaemonFC	This is how the State makes sure that platforms that don't censor political speech can't get users.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	They have Apple and Google throw them out of the store.
[06:02]	DaemonFC	Then their potential to gain users is finished because the best you can do is an Android sideload, and you have to tell your users how to do that.
[06:03]	TR News	"This ad campaign driven approach to do business has been bothering me for quite some time." https://brainbaking.com/post/2024/02/25percent-creating-75percent-hustling/ | Source: Wouter Groeneveld
[06:03]	TR Bot	 25% Creating, 75% Hustling | Brain Baking
[06:03]	DaemonFC	Most of the January 6th people organized using Twitter and Facebook.
[06:03]	TR News	"I turn the self view off not because Im overly self-conscious about my appearance" https://tangiblelife.net/we-were-never-supposed-to-see-our-own-faces-this-much | Source: Steve Ledlow
[06:03]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://tangiblelife.net/we-were-never-supposed-to-see-our-own-faces-this-much )
[06:03]	DaemonFC	Very few (less than 2%) had a Parler account.
[06:03]	TR News	"So why change again? Mainly speed, whatever I do with Wordpress some things are a little slow." https://mark.hysted.com/and-back-to-hugo/ |
[06:03]	TR Bot	 and back to Hugo
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Parler got blamed for everything and ran out of the app stores and lost their hosting providers, even though the riot would have been mostly unchanged had it not existed at all.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	And Facebook and Twitter went on without any real changes.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Parler's connection to January 6th is mainly a red herring concocted by the Democrats and specifically to protect Facebook and Twitter from the fallout by blaming something almost nobody has even heard of.
[06:06]	TR News	"If you want to find the closest place near you where you can experience totality" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/photographing-2024-total-solar-eclipse | Source: Jeff Geerling
[06:06]	TR Bot	 Photographing the 2024 Total Solar Eclipse | Jeff Geerling
[06:06]	TR News	"genetically analyzing the DNA in authenticated samples of his hair." https://www.sciencealert.com/dna-from-beethovens-hair-reveals-surprise-some-200-years-later | Source: Science Alert
[06:06]	TR Bot	From Beethoven's Hair Reveals Surprise Some 200 Years Later : ScienceAlert
[06:08]	TR News	"Unique Quick Response (QR) code, embedded in every question paper in this years Madhyamik" https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/kolkata-news/how-qr-codes-helped-authorities-detect-moles-during-wb-class-x-board-exams-101708253292911.html | Source: Hindustan Times
[06:08]	TR Bot	 How QR codes helped authorities detect moles during WB class X board exams | Kolkata - Hindustan Times
[06:08]	TR News	"Byjus rapid decline has put a big dampener on that excitement." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/the-netflix-model-may-just-save-indias-online-learning-apps/articleshow/107794157.cms | Source: India Times
[06:08]	TR Bot	 Online learning apps India: The Netflix model may just save Indias online learning apps - The Economic Times
[06:09]	TR News	"such small payouts" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/a-celebrity-dies-and-new-biographies-pop-up-overnight-the-author-ai/articleshow/107808121.cms | Source: India Times
[06:09]	TR Bot	 Artificial intelligence: A celebrity dies, and new biographies pop up overnight. The author? AI - The Economic Times
[06:14]	DaemonFC	I use a meta engine (SearXNG) to make censorship filters less effective, but the truth is that the Demonrat Left has gotten so good at replacing real people with phonies, and uncomfortable truths with lies, misinformation, and propaganda, using their big tech companies to do it, that there's hardly anything on the Web left to hide.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	It's either illegal or Google won't show it to you.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	And if someone would show it to you, they've already lost their hosting.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	Because the Demonrats can't live in a world with truth.
[06:15]	DaemonFC	They have to clear it out. Everywhere it is. Everywhere real people talk to each other is under attack or has already been destroyed.
[06:16]	DaemonFC	They can't live in a world where real people who have actual knowledge can congregate and talk to each other. Because if there is anywhere like that, then CNN, MSDNC, and their other crap won't ever be loud enough to shout over the voice of reason.
[06:17]	TR News	 (NEW):  Asus Expands Tinker Board 3N Series with 3N Plus and 3N Lite Variants http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Asus_Expands_Tinker_Board_3N_Series_with_3N_Plus_and_3N_Lite_Va.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Asus_Expands_Tinker_Board_3N_Series_with_3N_Plus_and_3N_Lite_Va.gmi 
[06:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Asus Expands Tinker Board 3N Series with 3N Plus and 3N Lite Variants
[06:17]	DaemonFC	Wired already let some idiot who spoke in favor of a child molester write an op-ed denouncing and announcing the death of a certain Web forum.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	They came back almost immediately, but the article on Wired is still there.
[06:18]	TR News	"That doesn't always mean that AI-generated fakes are mistaken for the real thing." https://futurism.com/the-byte/trump-dad-ai | Source: Futurism
[06:18]	TR Bot	 Trump's Dad Resurrected Via AI to Tell Son He's a Disgrace
[06:18]	TR News	"The difficulty is, people do not realise" https://futurism.com/the-byte/ai-destroy-humankind-yudkowsky | Source: Futurism
[06:18]	TR Bot	 AI May Destroy Humankind in Just Two Years, Expert Says
[06:19]	TR News	"Crabapple, the artist who took a stand against image generators" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/17/humanitys-remaining-timeline-it-looks-more-like-five-years-than-50-meet-the-neo-luddites-warning-of-an-ai-apocalypse | Source: The Guardian UK
[06:19]	TR Bot	 Humanitys remaining timeline? It looks more like five years than 50: meet the neo-luddites warning of an AI apocalypse | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Seven of Nine tone of voice: "My body is sufficiently masculine."
[06:21]	DaemonFC	How'd I do it? Gift from God. Not literally, just lucky I guess.
[06:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  Review: Drauger OS 7.6 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Review_Drauger_OS_7_6.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Review_Drauger_OS_7_6.gmi 
[06:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Review: Drauger OS 7.6
[06:23]	DaemonFC	" Note that the packaging says "KEEP OUT OF REACH OF PARENTS". This is a home-made substance, sold specifically to minors to inject directly into their bodies without their parents consent."
[06:23]	DaemonFC	Well that's disconcerting.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	That and the anime character on the box.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	I think this may not be a real pharmaceutical company and I wonder where they are getting this stuff from.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	Also, if you're getting this in the mail and it has not been FDA approved and a doctor didn't prescribe it, and it is a drug, then that just violates more laws than I care to think of.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	But unapproved drug, crimes involving the mail and inter-state commerce, and child abuse.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	Do they take crypto? Of course they do. Yet more proof that this is FDA-regulated and from a doctor. :P
[06:25]	DaemonFC	And the same people make fun of getting Ivermectin like this...
[06:27]	TR News	"Computer scientists affiliated with the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)" https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/17/ai_models_weaponized/ | Source: The Register UK
[06:27]	TR Bot	 AI models can be weaponized to hack websites on their own The Register
[06:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Biden vs. Trump is, well, uniquely horrible.
[06:28]	DaemonFC	Although polls do show RFK Jr. hurting Biden worse.
[06:28]	TR News	"the most likely outcome is AI that does not do what we want" https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/ | Source: Time
[06:28]	TR Bot	Only Way to Deal With the Threat From AI? Shut It Down | TIME
[06:28]	DaemonFC	He seems to be peeling away the anti-vaxxers, which are mostly Democrats.
[06:28]	DaemonFC	They were anti-vaxxers, real anti-vaxxers, well before COVID.
[06:29]	DaemonFC	It's a well established fact that the Left has a lot more nutjobs who are opposed to _all_ vaccines than the Right does.
[06:29]	DaemonFC	But it's a real problem nonetheless, and not totally partisan.
[06:29]	TR News	"India's success in the global AI race depends on open data, open compute, and open models." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/experts-urge-govt-to-invest-in-open-data-compute-for-ai-leadership/articleshow/107782457.cms | Source: India Times
[06:29]	TR Bot	 artificial intelligence: Experts urge govt to invest in open data, compute for AI leadership - The Economic Times
[06:30]	DaemonFC	Unfortunately, the fact that Democrats tend to get fake college degrees make it a problem of the "educated" (the fake degrees) and the "uneducated" (people who didn't take on $100,000 in student loans to get a fake degree) (fake means useless, btw)
[06:30]	TR News	"Google searches are declining in quality" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/ready-to-go-beyond-google-heres-how-to-use-new-generative-ai-search-sites/articleshow/107788590.cms | Source: India Times
[06:30]	TR Bot	 ai search: Ready to go beyond Google? Here's how to use new generative AI search sites - The Economic Times
[06:30]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: only 100k?
[06:30]	schestowitz	are you sure?
[06:30]	schestowitz	set aside redbrick
[06:31]	schestowitz	and take stare unis
[06:31]	DaemonFC	You know, I worked with one of those "I took on loans and went to college and blah blah." people and he tried to get all preachy with me and I said, "Just because you were stupid enough to go six figures in debt to work in this dump doesn't mean you get to lecture me about shit, pal."
[06:31]	schestowitz	tuition, cost of living x 4
[06:31]	DaemonFC	He made less than I did.
[06:31]	schestowitz	it might be 100k+ interest job to exist while studying
[06:31]	DaemonFC	The only way those losers ever planned to pay their debt back is IBR and then die owing nearly all of it.
[06:32]	TR News	 (NEW):  A Complete Guide to Lubuntu Default Apps and Their Purposes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/A_Complete_Guide_to_Lubuntu_Default_Apps_and_Their_Purposes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/A_Complete_Guide_to_Lubuntu_Default_Apps_and_Their_Purposes.gmi 
[06:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines A Complete Guide to Lubuntu Default Apps and Their Purposes
[06:32]	DaemonFC	Biden making it "official" that the debt is the problem of everyone else BEFORE they're dead is the only difference.
[06:32]	TR News	"AWS Nitro Enclaves are locked-down virtual machines with support for attestation." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2024/02/16/a-few-notes-on-aws-nitro-enclaves-images-and-attestation/ | Source: Trail of Bits
[06:32]	TR Bot	 A few notes on AWS Nitro Enclaves: Images and attestation | Trail of Bits Blog
[06:32]	TR News	"Reddit will let an unnamed large AI company have access to its user-generated content platform" https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/17/24075670/reddit-ai-training-license-deal-user-content | Source: The Verge
[06:32]	TR Bot	 Reddit has a new AI training deal to sell user content - The Verge
[06:33]	TR News	"The initial proposal doesn't cover the impersonation of private individuals, however." https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/16/ftc_ai_fakes/ | Source: The Register UK
[06:33]	TR Bot	 FTC asks the public if they'd like AI fakes protection The Register
[06:34]	TR News	Windows TCO: "That's when I started transitioning to more traditional Linux sysadmin work." https://matduggan.com/tech-support-stories-part-2/ | Source: Mat Duggan
[06:34]	TR Bot	 Tech Support Stories Part 2
[06:35]	TR News	"The reason I say that we live in a dumb home is that Ive purposely avoided smart home" https://tangiblelife.net/dumb-home | Source: Steve Ledlow
[06:35]	TR Bot	 Dumb Home - Tangible Life
[06:35]	TR News	"Dave's AirPods were found on another part of the island" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/airport-baggage-theft-ontario-jamaica-wedding-1.7117706?cmp=rss | Source: CBC
[06:35]	TR Bot	 A wedding party had their suitcases ransacked. They want Sunwing to take responsibility | CBC News
[06:36]	TR News	"the Amazons iconic rainforest are nearing an irreversible "tipping point"" https://futurism.com/the-byte/amazon-rainforest-collapse | Source: Futurism
[06:36]	TR Bot	 Amazon Rainforest Set for Collapse, Scientists Warn
[06:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Anyway, my take on it is if it's not illegal I have the right to read anything I want.
[06:36]	DaemonFC	So I find what's going on with the deplatforming deeply offensive.
[06:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  5 Best Free and Open Source Tox Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Tox_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Tox_Clients.gmi 
[06:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 5 Best Free and Open Source Tox Clients
[06:37]	TR News	"According to a Tech Transparency Project report, the terror group affiliates were given blue check marks" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elon-musk-slammed-verifying-terrorist-accounts-x-1723477 | Source: International Business Times
[06:37]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Slammed For Verifying Terrorist Accounts On X | IBTimes UK
[06:37]	DaemonFC	It's like JK Rowling arguing that nobody who bought her book when it accidentally went on sale had the right to read it.
[06:37]	DaemonFC	There's no enforcement mechanism with a paper book if someone doesn't want you to read it.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	With a "DRM copy" they just reach in and delete the book.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	And they can stop you from reading it until they change their mind.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	So the only way they have the power over you is when they can pull the plug.
[06:39]	TR News	"TikTok has vigorously defended itself, saying in part that it has never shared data" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/us-divided-on-tiktok-ban-even-as-biden-campaign-joins-the-app-ap-norc-poll-shows/articleshow/107788009.cms | Source: India Times
[06:39]	TR Bot	 tiktok ban: US divided on TikTok ban even as Biden campaign joins the app, AP-NORC poll shows - The Economic Times
[06:39]	TR News	"The president of the United States is now on TikTok." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/02/what-the-president-is-doing-on-tiktok/677496/ | Source: The Atlantic
[06:39]	TR Bot	 What the president is doing on TikTok - The Atlantic
[06:40]	TR News	"Donald Trump, widely known for stiffing his creditors" https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/02/16/never-forget-who-donald-trump-really-is/ | Source: Counter Punch
[06:40]	TR Bot	Forget Who Donald Trump Really Is - CounterPunch.org
[06:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Yes, the country will become unglued either way the election goes.
[06:42]	DaemonFC	Biden is very corrupt and does all sorts of illegal things.
[06:43]	DaemonFC	It's just the latest flavor of "I'm the fucking President. Who will stop me?"
[06:44]	TR News	"Roughly 80% of this microplastic comes from washing clothes." https://phys.org/news/2024-02-australians-microplastics-farms.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[06:44]	TR Bot	 Australians are washing microplastics down the drain and it's ending up on farms
[06:44]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30781
[06:44]	TR Bot	 Any Reason to Enable gconf in 2024? - Pale Moon forum
[06:45]	TR News	"It's happening faster and faster... as we lose ice" https://futurism.com/the-byte/bill-nye-world-warning | Source: Futurism
[06:45]	TR Bot	 Bill Nye Issues Warning for the World
[06:45]	DaemonFC	The Pale Moon Forum is pretty amusing.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30781
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> Re: Any Reason to Enable gconf in 2024?
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by athenian200 2024-01-25, 15:21
[06:45]	DaemonFC	>     Pentium4User wrote: 
[06:45]	DaemonFC	>     2024-01-25, 15:13
[06:45]	DaemonFC	>     How is GTK-2 related to NPAPI?
[06:45]	DaemonFC	>     Don't the GTK-3 builds support NPAPI?
[06:45]	DaemonFC	>     I use them and they show the plugins section (I can't test it because I don't have any NPAPI plugins installed). 
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> They do. That is because we build the GTK3 builds against GTK3 for the main application, but still have the GTK2 libraries in there solely for plugin support, carefully separated from the main application itself. Because the Linux plugins are all, unfortunately, built against GTK2 (if they don't find GTK2, a handful of them can fall back to Xlib, which is even less desirable). This is not a problem for Mac and Windows, but it is a huge one on Linux.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> So yes, Mozilla figured a clever trick to make it possible to run GTK2 plugins on a GTK3 version of the browser, with the main problem being that the GTK2 libraries (or at least their headers) are needed to make it work.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> Building on a system without GTK2 at all means we have to disable NPAPI. But NPAPI itself should work on a GTK3 system as long as the Pale Moon binaries themselves were built on a system with GTK2 libraries, at least in theory. That is, GTK2 isn't a runtime requirement for NPAPI, but rather a build-time requirement.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> Anyway, none of this is related to GConf, because that's related to integration with GNOME and its forks, not with the core toolkits.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	> To be perfectly clear, I only build Epyrus with GTK3, and it has never had an official GTK2 version. That annoys a lot of people, but I saw no point in introducing a GTK2 build to a new application. That actually puts me in a unique position to test disabling GConf on GTK3 builds, because it's very unlikely to affect anything there. Whereas it's a lot more unclear what would happen for people still on GTK2.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	----
[06:45]	DaemonFC	Xlib, even more undesirable than GTK.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	Ouch.
[06:47]	DaemonFC	To be fair, they did finally make NPAPI support a compile-time option.
[06:47]	DaemonFC	I don't know who is putting NPAPI plug-ins in a Web browser in 2024.
[06:47]	DaemonFC	This will be less tenable in the future, of course.
[06:47]	DaemonFC	But I mean, look how long it took even Fedora to drop GTK 1.
[06:48]	DaemonFC	Although supposing that you can keep the GTK 2 headers around and most plug-ins are happy with that in the build environment, it should be able to support most NPAPI plug-ins indefinitely.
[06:50]	TR News	 (NEW):  Microchip announces the PolarFire SoC Discovery Kit, a low-cost devkit for Linux and real-time applications http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Microchip_announces_the_PolarFire_SoC_Discovery_Kit_a_low_cost_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Microchip_announces_the_PolarFire_SoC_Discovery_Kit_a_low_cost_.gmi 
[06:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microchip announces the PolarFire SoC Discovery Kit, a low-cost devkit for Linux and real-time applications
[06:51]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30243
[06:51]	TR Bot	 UXP Development Priorities - Pale Moon forum
[06:51]	DaemonFC	> Re: UXP Development Priorities
[06:51]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by FranklinDM 2023-09-04, 09:15
[06:51]	DaemonFC	>     dbsoft wrote: 
[06:51]	DaemonFC	>     2023-09-04, 06:38
[06:51]	DaemonFC	>     Implement min()/max()/clamp() CSS functions:
[06:51]	DaemonFC	>     ... 
[06:51]	DaemonFC	> I was planning to work on this once I'm done removing Stylo from UXP, but had problems due to lack of free time, unfortunately.
[06:51]	DaemonFC	----
[06:51]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:52]	DaemonFC	> Re: UXP Development Priorities
[06:53]	DaemonFC	> Unread post by RealityRipple 2023-09-07, 09:18
[06:53]	DaemonFC	> Luckily most the even newer stuff being churned out is... let's say "not going to be implemented". Did you know someone wants to add full MIDI device support? :lol:
[06:53]	DaemonFC	---
[06:53]	DaemonFC	Safari doesn't have it and has rejected it, so it's not in Webkit.
[06:53]	DaemonFC	Mozilla said it was a security problem without widespread usage potential among users, then put it in and enabled it for everyone by default.
[06:53]	TR News	 (NEW):  elementary OS 8 Enters Early Access, Heres Whats Planned http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/elementary_OS_8_Enters_Early_Access_Here_s_What_s_Planned.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/elementary_OS_8_Enters_Early_Access_Here_s_What_s_Planned.gmi 
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines elementary OS 8 Enters Early Access, Heres Whats Planned
[06:53]	DaemonFC	Google invented it.
[06:54]	DaemonFC	In my copy of Brave, Web access to MIDI devices is one of the APIs I've removed from Web content.
[06:54]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of bad APIs from Google that are more likely to be a security disaster than useful for the user, and quite a few that can only be used to construct spyware.
[06:55]	TR News	"The California bill was developed in significant consultation" https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2024/2/16/24074360/artificial-intelligence-california-regulation-openai-google-chatgpt-existential-risk | Source: Vox
[06:55]	TR Bot	California state legislation takes on powerful AI models - Vox
[06:55]	TR News	"We know many species can live at much colder or warmer temperatures than humans." https://phys.org/news/2024-02-20c-optimal-temperature-life-earth.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[06:55]	TR Bot	 20C seems the optimal temperature for life on Earth to thrive: What this means in a warming world
[06:56]	TR News	"Given the huge problem-solving potential of artificial intelligence (AI)" https://theconversation.com/ai-has-a-large-and-growing-carbon-footprint-but-there-are-potential-solutions-on-the-horizon-223488 | Source: The Conversation
[06:56]	TR Bot	 AI has a large and growing carbon footprint, but there are potential solutions on the horizon
[06:58]	TR News	"The video shows a herd of elephants quenching their thirst by drinking water" https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/elephant-family-bonds-over-water-trough-in-tamil-nadu-forest-heartwarming-scene-captured-on-camera-101708255346194.html | Source: Hindustan Times
[06:58]	TR Bot	 Elephant family bonds over water trough. Heartwarming scene captured on camera | Trending - Hindustan Times
[06:58]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=28217
[06:58]	TR Bot	 Has Pale Moon ever discovered and patched vulnerabilities unknown to Mozilla? - Pale Moon forum
[06:58]	DaemonFC	One of the useful "meat byproducts" of Chrome is the fuzz testing stuff Google has put out that's suitably generic to be used for other browsers.
● Feb 19
[07:04]	TR News	"We have been used to hearing that free and open source software and enterprise environments in Big Business" https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2022/09/open-source-in-enterprise-environments.html | Source: BSDly
[07:04]	TR Bot	 That grumpy BSD guy: Open Source in Enterprise Environments - Where Are We Now and What Is Our Way Forward?
[07:04]	TR News	"Here are some ideas that might explain why capital management takes over an orgasination: [...]" https://two-wrongs.com/the-curse-of-capital-management | Source: Chris
[07:04]	TR Bot	 The Curse of Capital Management
[07:06]	TR News	"I work for a pretty large Computer Science department" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/OutsourcedWebCMSSensible | Source: University of Toronto
[07:06]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/OutsourcedWebCMSSensible
[07:22]	TR News	Techrights Perjury: Axel Beckert (ETH Zurich) & Debian lying and scapegoating http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Perjury_Axel_Beckert_ETH_Zurich_Debian_lying_and_scapegoating.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Perjury_Axel_Beckert_ETH_Zurich_Debian_lying_and_scapegoating.gmi 
[07:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights Perjury: Axel Beckert (ETH Zurich) & Debian lying and scapegoating
[07:33]	TR News	Techrights WIPO UDRP Decision 2022-1524 explained http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/WIPO_UDRP_Decision_2022_1524_explained.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/WIPO_UDRP_Decision_2022_1524_explained.gmi 
[07:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights WIPO UDRP Decision 2022-1524 explained
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[07:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: There's a rebate $129 back if you spend more than $599 at Dell.
[07:42]	DaemonFC	They're all discounting in one way or another.
[07:43]	schestowitz	600?
[07:43]	schestowitz	on a PC?
[07:43]	schestowitz	what is it, HEY HI laptop?
[07:43]	schestowitz	i got my HP brand new for 205 pounds
[07:43]	schestowitz	weeks later it was even cheaper
[07:44]	schestowitz	but too late for me
[07:44]	schestowitz	it was 24 months ago
[07:44]	TR News	"A 2023 study showed that the vast majority of academic experts are in agreement" https://phys.org/news/2024-02-disinformation-threatens-global-elections.html | Source: Omicron Limited
[07:44]	TR Bot	 Disinformation threatens global elections: How to fight back
[07:45]	TR News	"Pro-Russian social media users have been widely circulating what looks like a Euronews report" https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20240215-why-pro-russian-accounts-are-sharing-a-fake-video-of-french-farmers-and-manure | Source: France24
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Why pro-Russian accounts are sharing a fake video of French farmers and manure
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[07:47]	TR News	 (NEW):  Errands: A Simple and Elegant To-Do Companion for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Ready_to_take_charge_of_your_errands_with_a_desktop_Linux_app.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Ready_to_take_charge_of_your_errands_with_a_desktop_Linux_app.gmi 
[07:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Errands: A Simple and Elegant To-Do Companion for Linux
[07:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The longer you go without buying a computer, the more of an upgrade the next one is.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	So it's not like anyone should be really hot to buy.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	You go another year, you get a better one for the same price.
● Feb 19
[08:01]	schestowitz	yes, that was always the case
[08:01]	schestowitz	regardless of when
[08:01]	schestowitz	of you get the same PC as the year before for clearance price
[08:09]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/economic-cost-crumbling-mental-health-060000220.html
[08:09]	TR Bot	 The economic cost of our crumbling mental health has finally become clear
[08:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: You've "just" entered a recession.
[08:10]	DaemonFC	Just now.
[08:10]	DaemonFC	Congratulations!
[08:10]	schestowitz	yes, I always joke aboutn iot
[08:10]	schestowitz	the media here does this too
[08:10]	schestowitz	it goes like this random shuffle
[08:10]	schestowitz	1) the economy will enter recieion if [...]
[08:11]	schestowitz	2) we MIGHT be entering [recession/slowdown]
[08:11]	schestowitz	3) ukraine|covid||brexit to blamme for   [recession/slowdown]
[08:11]	schestowitz	4) [glorified person] says UK may have entered a recession
[08:11]	DaemonFC	The Eternal Munger?
[08:11]	schestowitz	5) next year there is a prospect of biritish recession
[08:11]	DaemonFC	:)
[08:12]	schestowitz	the lasy I saw yesssterday at the stall
[08:12]	schestowitz	she said
[08:12]	schestowitz	"they say it's becausde of brexit"
[08:12]	schestowitz	and that we MIGHT enter a recession
[08:12]	schestowitz	i told her that was years ago
[08:12]	schestowitz	and it goes back to 2008
[08:12]	schestowitz	we never bounced back
[08:12]	schestowitz	and she accepted my arguments
[08:12]	schestowitz	she is about 65
[08:12]	DaemonFC	The EU is getting worse and worse all the time.
[08:12]	schestowitz	not just EU
[08:12]	schestowitz	the world
[08:12]	schestowitz	even east asia
[08:12]	schestowitz	look at japan
[08:13]	schestowitz	Geramny became a "bigger" edconomy
[08:13]	schestowitz	whatever it is they "measure"
[08:13]	schestowitz	there are firestarters there
[08:13]	schestowitz	korea, taiwan, south china sea
[08:13]	schestowitz	forget about tibet
[08:13]	schestowitz	or HK
[08:13]	schestowitz	they are "done"
[08:13]	schestowitz	africa hasseveral wars aat the moment
[08:14]	schestowitz	some not even domestic
[08:14]	schestowitz	anyway, biab
[08:15]	TR News	"On February 18, Pussy Riot activists held a memorial protest for Alexey Navalny in Berlin." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/02/18/pussy-riot-activists-hold-memorial-protest-for-navalny-opposite-russian-embassy-in-berlin | Source: Meduza
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Pussy Riot activists hold memorial protest for Navalny opposite Russian Embassy in Berlin Meduza
[08:15]	TR News	"laid flowers at the Solovetsky Stone in Moscow" https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/02/18/u-s-ambassador-to-russia-lynne-tracey-lays-flowers-in-moscow-for-alexey-navalny | Source: Meduza
[08:15]	TR Bot	 U.S. Ambassador to Russia Lynne Tracey lays flowers in Moscow for Alexey Navalny Meduza
[08:15]	TR News	"Organizations that receive the undesirable classification are banned from operating in Russia" https://cpj.org/2024/02/russia-bans-freedom-of-expression-group-article-19-as-undesirable/ | Source: CPJ
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Russia bans freedom of expression group Article 19 as undesirable - Committee to Protect Journalists
[08:16]	TR News	"a letter from The New York Times, the Guardian, Le Monde, El Pais and DER SPIEGEL" https://scheerpost.com/2024/02/18/an-open-letter-from-editors-and-publishers-publishing-is-not-a-crime/ | Source: Scheerpost
[08:16]	TR Bot	Open Letter from Editors and Publishers: Publishing is Not a Crime ScheerPost
[08:17]	TR News	[Old] "Holding governments accountable is part of the core mission of a free press in a democracy." https://www.nytco.com/press/an-open-letter-from-editors-and-publishers-publishing-is-not-a-crime/ | Source: New York Times
[08:17]	TR Bot	 An Open Letter from Editors and Publishers: Publishing is Not a Crime | The New York Times Company
[08:17]	TR News	"UK government could deport Assange before his legal team has the opportunity to file proceedings" https://michaelwest.com.au/last-chance-for-julian-assange-it-is-time-for-albanese-to-put-his-words-into-action/ | Source: Michael West Media
[08:17]	TR Bot	 Last chance for Julian Assange. It is time for Albanese to put his words into action. - Michael West
[08:17]	TR News	"Julian Assange will make his final appeal this week to the British courts to avoid extradition." https://scheerpost.com/2024/02/18/chris-hedges-julian-assanges-final-appealchris-hedges/ | Source: Scheerpost
[08:17]	TR Bot	Hedges: Julian Assanges Final Appeal ScheerPost
[08:19]	TR News	"Unlike Qatar, Saudi Arabia feels it has leverage and does not need to pay attention to activists and others." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/02/18/first-qatar-now-saudi-arabia-time-for-activists-to-rethink/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
[08:19]	TR Bot	 First Qatar, Now Saudi Arabia: Time for Activists to Rethink - Modern Diplomacy
[08:19]	TR News	"Indian authorities compelled Dougnac, a former South Asia correspondent for multiple international news organizations" https://cpj.org/2024/02/french-journalist-vanessa-dougnac-leaves-india-after-journalism-permit-revoked/ | Source: CPJ
[08:19]	TR Bot	 French journalist Vanessa Dougnac leaves India after journalism permit revoked - Committee to Protect Journalists
[08:25]	TR News	"It is hard to take this seriously after Apples bad-faith effort to comply with the DMA." https://www.manton.org/2024/02/16/apple-is-lying.html | Source: Manton Reece
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Manton Reece - Apple is twisting the truth
[08:26]	TR News	"Although Camrons experience might sound like a strange one" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/02/16/camron-ordered-to-pay-51000-for-using-copyrighted-photo/ | Source: Digital Music News
[08:26]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2024/02/16/camron-ordered-to-pay-51000-for-using-copyrighted-photo/ )
[08:27]	TR News	sportswashing: "First Qatar, Now Saudi Arabia: Time for Activists to Rethink" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/02/18/first-qatar-now-saudi-arabia-time-for-activists-to-rethink/
[08:34]	TR News	"This is a full list of all Lubuntu default applications (or list of Lubuntu components)" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2024/02/a-complete-guide-to-lubuntu-default-apps-and-their-purposes.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[08:34]	TR Bot	 A Complete Guide to Lubuntu Default Apps and Their Purposes
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[08:40]	TR News	"BitTorrent is often characterized as a decentralized file-sharing technology." https://torrentfreak.com/bitmagnet-allows-people-to-run-their-own-decentralized-torrent-indexer-locally-240218/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[08:40]	TR Bot	Allows People to Run Their Own Decentralized Torrent Indexer Locally * TorrentFreak
[08:41]	TR News	Countdown To Day X https://thedissenter.org/countdown-day-x-passage-time-assange-case/ | Source: The Dissenter
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Countdown To Day X: Passage Of Time In Assange's Case
[08:41]	TR News	"my colleagues seemed shocked at the emergence of so many antivax physicians" https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2024/02/19/physicians-are-their-own-worst-enemies-with-respect-to-misinformation/ |
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Physicians are their own worst enemies with respect to misinformation - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[08:43]	TR News	How to make many antivaxers: grant loads of patents to very rich companies, say they can leapfrog clinical trials, then use government power to force people to take them (implicit consent; take it or lose your job!)
[08:48]	parsifal	DaemonFC: about the price of computers and parts for them, in general for the majority of goods USA is not EU, and not in favor of EU, for example a 1TB SD card costing ~100$ cost me 300, when you multiply that by 3, because I needed three units, the things get very serious.
[08:49]	DaemonFC	I pulled some SSDs out of the dumpster yesterday.
[08:49]	DaemonFC	I'm considering taping them together and making a RAID array out of them with BtrFS.
[08:50]	TR News	Techrights The Cyber|Show: Inscrutable (Proprietary) Systems - British Post Office - Part 2 http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/The_Cyber_Show_Inscrutable_Proprietary_Systems_British_Post_Off.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/The_Cyber_Show_Inscrutable_Proprietary_Systems_British_Post_Off.gmi 
[08:50]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Cyber|Show: Inscrutable (Proprietary) Systems - British Post Office - Part 2
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[08:51]	parsifal	DaemonFC: lucky guy ;) and about the price expression of my new laptop and the three external monitors from last year when I upgraded after 10 years of using my previous laptop I don't want to remember at all...\_( )_/
[08:55]	TR News	Tech Companies Sign Accord to Combat AI-Generated Election Trickery https://www.securityweek.com/tech-companies-sign-accord-to-combat-ai-generated-election-trickery/
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[08:55]	TR Bot	Companies Sign Accord to Combat AI-Generated Election Trickery - SecurityWeek
[08:56]	TR News	How To Install Symfony Framework on Rocky GNU/Linux 9 https://idroot.us/install-symfony-framework-rocky-linux-9/
[08:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install Symfony Framework on Rocky Linux 9 - idroot
[08:56]	TR News	How To Install OpenSSL on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-openssl-debian-12/
[08:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install OpenSSL on Debian 12 - idroot
[08:56]	TR News	How To Install Hypnotix on Manjaro https://idroot.us/install-hypnotix-manjaro/
[08:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install Hypnotix on Manjaro - idroot
[08:56]	TR News	How To Install Homebrew on Fedora 39 https://idroot.us/install-homebrew-fedora-39/
[08:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install Homebrew on Fedora 39 - idroot
[08:58]	TR News	How to Enable JPEG-XL (.jxl) Image Support in Ubuntu 22.04/20.04 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/02/enable-jpeg-xl-support-ubuntu/
[08:58]	TR Bot	 How to Enable JPEG-XL (.jxl) Image Support in Ubuntu 22.04/20.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[08:59]	DaemonFC	So far I've only lost one key on this laptop and Microsoft was nice enough to provide a spare (swap left ctrl with Windows).
[08:59]	TR News	Ubuntu Studio opens Wallpaper Competition for Next 24.04 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/02/ubuntu-studio-wallpaper-competition/
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Studio opens Wallpaper Competition for Next 24.04 | UbuntuHandbook
● Feb 19
[09:01]	TR News	Jon Chiappetta: New Samsung S90C OLED Green Screen Of Death https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2024/02/18/new-samsung-s90c-oled-green-screen-of-death/
[09:01]	TR Bot	 New Samsung S90C OLED Green Screen Of Death | Jon's FOSS Blog
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[09:02]	TR News	Microsoft is the Establishment That Intends on Ruining the Lives of the Working Class https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Microsoft_is_the_Establishment_That_Intends_on_Ruining_the_Live.shtml
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft is the Establishment That Intends on Ruining the Lives of the Working Class
[09:03]	TR News	[Meme] Germany Efficiency at the EPO https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Meme_Germany_Efficiency_at_the_EPO.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Germany Efficiency at the EPO
[09:03]	TR News	[Meme] EPO is Holding It Wrong https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Meme_EPO_is_Holding_It_Wrong.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] EPO is Holding It Wrong
[09:03]	TR News	Microsoft 'News' Sites: All Those Tech Layoffs (Microsoft #1 in Tech Layoffs Last Month) Are Due to Buzzwords We Promote https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Microsoft_News_Sites_All_Those_Tech_Layoffs_Microsoft_1_in_Tech.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft 'News' Sites: All Those Tech Layoffs (Microsoft #1 in Tech Layoffs Last Month) Are Due to Buzzwords We Promote
[09:03]	parsifal	DaemonFC: why don't you use an external keyboard? I've been doing that for as long as I can remember, except when I'm not using the machine outside.
[09:03]	TR News	Susan G Kleinmann, MIT Lincoln Laboratory & Debian women role model (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Susan_G_Kleinmann_MIT_Lincoln_Laboratory_Debian_women_role_mode.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights Susan G Kleinmann, MIT Lincoln Laboratory & Debian women role model
[09:03]	TR News	EPO as Tower of Babel (No Formality Officers) (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/EPO_as_Tower_of_Babel_No_Formality_Officers.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights EPO as Tower of Babel (No Formality Officers)
[09:03]	DaemonFC	I suppose I could.
[09:03]	TR News	Almost 1,000 Abusive Monopolist Microsoft Layoffs in California This Year, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Almost_1_000_Microsoft_Layoffs_in_California_This_Year_Accordin.shtml
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Techrights Almost 1,000 Microsoft Layoffs in California This Year, According to Official Pages Tied to Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act
[09:06]	parsifal	<how to install Hypnotix in Majaro>why install Hypnotix in Majaro when mpv or SMPlayer do the same job only better
[09:10]	DaemonFC	Okay, I just knocked all the crumbs out of the keys.
[09:10]	DaemonFC	That was pissing me off.
[09:11]	parsifal	^LOL!
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[09:13]	DaemonFC	https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwgntv.com%252Fnews%252Fchicagocrime%252Fanti-semitic-graffiti-found-in-logan-square%252F
[09:13]	TR Bot	 NewsWaffle: WGN-TV gemi.dev
[09:13]	DaemonFC	Democrat City full of peace, love, and understanding.
[09:14]	DaemonFC	And by that I mean shootings, drugs, and "Death to the Jews" graffiti sprayed on people's houses.
[09:14]	DaemonFC	Yep, just one big happy family.
[09:14]	DaemonFC	"Chicago police were not able to provide a description of the individual involved"
[09:15]	DaemonFC	I don't know if that's because they don't know or because "You can't say that."
[09:15]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[09:16]	DaemonFC	https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwgntv.com%252Fnews%252Fmedical-watch%252Fsyphilis-in-newborns-what-pregnant-women-need-to-know%252F
[09:16]	TR Bot	 NewsWaffle: WGN-TV gemi.dev
[09:16]	DaemonFC	"Syphilis in newborns: The help available to pregnant women to slow the troubling trend"
[09:16]	DaemonFC	Hmm, infospeak division must not have gone over that one very well.
[09:16]	DaemonFC	Certainly they mean pregnant people who chestfeed.
[09:17]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[09:18]	TR News	 (NEW):  BSD: OpenBSD and grumpy BSD guy http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/BSD_OpenBSD_and_grumpy_BSD_guy.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/BSD_OpenBSD_and_grumpy_BSD_guy.gmi 
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines BSD: OpenBSD and grumpy BSD guy
[09:20]	TR News	 (NEW):  Open Hardware: Retro, Raspberry Pi, RISC-V, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Open_Hardware_Retro_Raspberry_Pi_RISC_V_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Open_Hardware_Retro_Raspberry_Pi_RISC_V_and_More.gmi 
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware: Retro, Raspberry Pi, RISC-V, and More
[09:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  Web and Free Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Web_and_Free_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Web_and_Free_Software.gmi 
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Web and Free Software
[09:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  Tech Support Stories Part 2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Tech_Support_Stories_Part_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Tech_Support_Stories_Part_2.gmi 
[09:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Tech Support Stories Part 2
[09:27]	TR News	Thomas Depierre on open source in Europe https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/02/18/episode-416-thomas-depierre-on-open-source-in-europe/
[09:27]	TR Bot	 Episode 416 Thomas Depierre on open source in Europe Open Source Security
[09:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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[09:32]	TR News	Techrights Links 19/02/2024: Terrorists in Twitter and Julian Assange Verdict Imminent http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Links_19_02_2024_Terrorists_in_Twitter_and_Julian_Assange_Verdi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Links_19_02_2024_Terrorists_in_Twitter_and_Julian_Assange_Verdi.gmi 
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 19/02/2024: Terrorists in Twitter and Julian Assange Verdict Imminent
[09:33]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 19/02/2024: NNCP, Rust, and More http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Gemini_Links_19_02_2024_NNCP_Rust_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Gemini_Links_19_02_2024_NNCP_Rust_and_More.gmi 
[09:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 19/02/2024: NNCP, Rust, and More
[09:43]	DaemonFC	Okay, that was cat hair and a fingernail under the Shift key.
[09:43]	DaemonFC	That explains that.
[09:45]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_Q
[09:45]	TR Bot	https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=F1O9_RVik_Q
[09:45]	TR Bot	invidious.baczek.me | Down Perisocope XO Pascal bullies Buckman for a disorderly Galley - Invidious
[09:47]	DaemonFC	Cleaning out my laptop keyboard...
[09:50]	DaemonFC	I just gave my cat the thyroid pill she spit out last night. I grabbed another one out of the bottle and then went looking for the one she spit out on the carpet.
[09:50]	DaemonFC	Those things are 28 cents each. She tries to walk off or spit it out and they're surprisingly hard to find for a pink pill.
[09:54]	DaemonFC	I know that's not a lot of money but she does need to take them. I was finding them all over the house before I started making sure she really took it before I let her go.
[09:54]	DaemonFC	I mainly have to go looking right away so my other cat doesn't come along and eat it.
[09:54]	DaemonFC	And I know her... She might.
[09:55]	DaemonFC	You say why would she do that. I don't know. Why would she eat plastic bags?
[09:55]	DaemonFC	Why would she pick tangles out of her fur and eat those and then choke and throw them back up on the carpet?
[09:56]	DaemonFC	I try to get them all, but it's difficult with a long hair.
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[10:14]	TR News	Ready Player GNU/Linux | LINUX Unplugged 550 https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-11875
[10:16]	TR News	Russian courts sentence dozens to jail for commemorating Putin critic Navalny https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240218-russian-courts-sentence-dozens-detained-at-events-commemorating-alexei-navalny
[10:16]	TR Bot	 Russian courts sentence dozens to jail for commemorating Putin critic Navalny
[10:20]	TR News	Why pro-Russian accounts are sharing a fake video of French farmers and manure https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20240215-why-pro-russian-accounts-are-sharing-a-fake-video-of-french-farmers-and-manure
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Why pro-Russian accounts are sharing a fake video of French farmers and manure
[10:36]	TR News	Darktable 4.6.1 Released, New Documentation & Various Fixes https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/02/darktable-4-6-1-released/
[10:36]	TR Bot	 Darktable 4.6.1 Released, New Documentation & Various Fixes | UbuntuHandbook
[10:39]	TR News	Most Wanted Man Pleads Guilty in Cyberattack That Upended Vermont Hospital https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/cyberattack-vermont-hospital-guilty.html
[10:39]	TR Bot	 Most Wanted Man Pleads Guilty in Cyberattack That Upended Vermont Hospital - The New York Times
[10:43]	TR News	Microsoft: Our Bing Thing Does "Hey Hi" Now. Asia: Meh. We'd Rather Use Russia's Yandex. https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/Microsoft_Our_Bing_Thing_Does_Hey_Hi_Now_Asia_Meh_We_d_Rather_U.shtml
[10:43]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft: Our Bing Thing Does "Hey Hi" Now. Asia: Meh. We'd Rather Use Russia's Yandex.
[10:44]	TR News	Russian Arrests of Navalny Mourners Lead to Fears of Big Crackdown https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/world/europe/russia-arrests-navalny-memorials.html
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Russian Arrests of Navalny Mourners Lead to Fears of Big Crackdown - The New York Times
[10:45]	TR News	 (NEW):  LXQt 2.0 to Rely Entirely on Qt6, Qt5 Support Concluded http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/LXQt_2_0_to_Rely_Entirely_on_Qt6_Qt5_Support_Concluded.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/LXQt_2_0_to_Rely_Entirely_on_Qt6_Qt5_Support_Concluded.gmi 
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LXQt 2.0 to Rely Entirely on Qt6, Qt5 Support Concluded
[10:46]	TR News	telegram https://meduza.io/en/news/2024/02/18/over-10-000-users-report-disruptions-on-telegram-with-38-percent-of-complaints-coming-from-moscow | Source: Meduza
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Over 10,000 users report disruptions on Telegram, with 38 percent of complaints coming from Moscow Meduza
[10:47]	TR News	Steven Pritchard: Data Recovery with Open-Source Tools (part 1) https://blog.stevecoinc.com/2024/02/data-recovery-with-open-source-tools.html
[10:47]	TR Bot	 SteveCo: Data Recovery with Open-Source Tools (part 1)
[10:49]	TR News	5 Open Source Log Monitoring and Management Tools for GNU/Linux https://www.tecmint.com/best-linux-log-monitoring-and-management-tools/
[10:49]	TR Bot	 5 Best Open-Source Log Management Tools for Linux in 2024
[10:55]	TR News	How to Install and Configure FreeNginx on GNU/Linux (Ultimate Guide) https://linuxtldr.com/installing-freenginx/
[10:55]	TR Bot	 How to Install and Configure FreeNginx on Linux (Ultimate Guide)
[10:55]	TR News	Tbmk: A Tool to Bookmark Frequently Used Commands in GNU/Linux https://linuxtldr.com/installing-tbmk/
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Tbmk: A Tool to Bookmark Frequently Used Commands in Linux
[10:56]	TR News	Nload: Monitor GNU/Linux Network Traffic and Bandwidth Usage https://linuxtldr.com/installing-nload/
[10:56]	TR Bot	 Nload: Monitor Linux Network Traffic and Bandwidth Usage
[10:56]	TR News	NetHogs: Network Bandwidth Monitoring Tool in GNU/Linux https://linuxtldr.com/installing-nethogs/
[10:57]	TR Bot	 NetHogs: Network Bandwidth Monitoring Tool in Linux
[10:57]	TR News	BlazBlue Entropy Effect Reviewed on the Steam Deck https://boilingsteam.com/blaz-blue-entropy-effect/index.html
[10:57]	TR Bot	 BlazBlue Entropy Effect Reviewed on the Steam Deck
[10:59]	TR News	Building an Archive of My First Blog https://kevquirk.com/building-an-archive-of-my-first-blog
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Building an Archive of My First Blog | Kev Quirk
[10:59]	TR News	Three New Sparky 2024.02 Rolling Special Editions Released https://linuxiac.com/three-new-sparky-2024-02-rolling-special-editions-released/
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Three New Sparky 2024.02 Rolling Special Editions Released
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[11:00]	TR News	Done: A Beautiful To-Do Lists App for GNOME Desktop https://linuxiac.com/done-gnome-to-do-lists-app/
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Done: A Beautiful To-Do Lists App for GNOME Desktop
[11:00]	TR News	BBC Micro: Restoration part 3 https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2024/02/18/bbc-micro-restoration-part-3/
[11:00]	TR Bot	 BBC Micro: Restoration part3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[11:04]	TR News	 (NEW):  7 Features That Make Ubuntu 24.04 LTS Cool http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/7_Features_That_Make_Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_Cool.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/7_Features_That_Make_Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_Cool.gmi 
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 7 Features That Make Ubuntu 24.04 LTS Cool
[11:05]	TR News	Fedora vs. Ubuntu: Which More Secure, Faster & More User-Friendly? https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-projects/fedora-vs-ubuntu
[11:05]	TR Bot	 Fedora vs. Ubuntu: Which More Secure, Faster & More User-Friendly? | LinuxSec...
[11:06]	TR News	Sparky 2024.02 Special Editions https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-2024-02-special-editions/
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Sparky 2024.02 Special Editions SparkyLinux
[11:09]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[11:10]	TR News	Anaconda Web UI on Fedora 40WKS KVM Guest deployed via Fedora-WKS-Live-x86_64-40-20240217.n.0.iso https://dbaxps.blogspot.com/2024/02/anaconda-web-ui-on-fedora-40wks-kvm.html
[11:10]	TR Bot	 Openstack RDO && KVM Hypervisor: Anaconda Web UI on Fedora 40WKS KVM Guest deployed via Fedora-WKS-Live-x86_64-40-20240217.n.0.iso
[11:12]	TR News	New 'Prosthetic' Hacks The Brain to Recall Specific Memories https://www.sciencealert.com/new-prosthetic-hacks-the-brain-to-recall-specific-memories
[11:12]	TR Bot	'Prosthetic' Hacks The Brain to Recall Specific Memories : ScienceAlert
[11:13]	TR News	Lower house Assange vote gives Albanese cover for inaction https://itwire.com/open-sauce/lower-house-assange-vote-gives-albanese-cover-for-inaction.html
[11:13]	TR Bot	- Lower house Assange vote gives Albanese cover for inaction
[11:14]	TR News	Cybersecurity group reports new national-scale social control media disruption in Pakistan amid ongoing protests over allegations of election fraud https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/02/cybersecurity-group-reports-new-national-scale-social-media-disruption-in-pakistan-amid-ongoing-protests-over-allegations-of-election-fraud/
[11:14]	TR Bot	 Cybersecurity group reports new national-scale social media disruption in Pakistan amid ongoing protests over allegations of election fraud - JURIST - News
[11:15]	TR News	SparkFun launches MicroMod Single Pair Ethernet kit for easier 10BASE-T1L experimentation https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/19/sparkfun-launches-micromod-single-pair-ethernet-kit-for-easier-10base-t1l-experimentation/
[11:15]	TR Bot	 SparkFun launches MicroMod Single Pair Ethernet kit for easier 10BASE-T1L experimentation - CNX Software
[11:15]	TR News	Got Microsoft 'gift', will deliver Microsoft ad (spam 'review') https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/18/beelink-sei12-i7-12650h-mini-pc-review-windows-11-pro/
[11:15]	TR Bot	 Beelink SEi12 i7-12650H mini PC review Part 2: Windows 11 Pro - CNX Software
[11:17]	TR News	Wireshark 4.2.3 Released, (Sun, Feb 18th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30660
[11:17]	TR Bot	 Wireshark 4.2.3 Released - SANS Internet Storm Center
[11:17]	TR News	YARA 4.5.0 Release, (Sun, Feb 18th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30662
[11:17]	TR Bot	 YARA 4.5.0 Release - SANS Internet Storm Center
[11:19]	TR News	Activision reportedly laying off more than 130 people from Ireland branch https://www.gamesindustry.biz/activision-reportedly-laying-off-more-than-130-people-from-ireland-branch
[11:19]	TR Bot	reportedly laying off more than 130 people from Ireland branch | GamesIndustry.biz
[11:21]	TR News	Microsoft Reportedly Set to Cut Even More Jobs https://fandomwire.com/activision-blizzard-reportedly-cut-even-more-jobs/
[11:21]	TR Bot	 After Trouble with the FTC and an Ongoing Lawsuit, Activision Blizzard are Reportedly Set to Cut Even More Jobs
[11:22]	TR News	Shares of Nintendo drop as much as 8.8% as it reportedly delays its next Switch console, the latest bad news for a struggling gaming sector https://fortune.com/asia/2024/02/19/shares-nintendo-drop-reportedly-delays-next-console-swtich-latest-bad-news-gaming-sector/
[11:22]	TR Bot	of Nintendo drop as much as 8.8% as it reportedly delays its next Switch console | Fortune Asia
[11:23]	TR News	Fat tech pay cheques shed up to 40% as slowdown bites https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/c-suite/fat-tech-pay-cheques-shedup-to-40-as-slowdown-bites/articleshow/107801869.cms?from=mdr
[11:23]	TR Bot	 Fat tech pay cheques shed up to 40% as slowdown bites - The Economic Times
[11:25]	TR News	"Microsoft is reportedly set to slash more than a hundred jobs at Activision Blizzards Cork office." https://madrastribune.com/2024/02/19/report-activision-blizzard-expected-to-cut-136-jobs-from-cork-office/
[11:25]	TR Bot	 Report: Activision Blizzard expected to cut 136 jobs from Cork office - The Madras Tribune
[11:26]	TR News	Afghan province orders officials not to photograph living things https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/afghan-province-orders-officials-not-to-photograph-living-things
[11:26]	TR Bot	 Afghan province orders officials not to photograph living things | The Straits Times
[11:40]	TR News	Committee to Protect Journalists calls for investigation into killing of Myanmar journalist Myat Thu Tan https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/02/committee-to-protect-journalists-calls-for-investigation-into-killing-of-myanmar-journalist-myat-thu-tan/
[11:40]	TR Bot	 Committee to Protect Journalists calls for investigation into killing of Myanmar journalist Myat Thu Tan - JURIST - News
[11:40]	TR News	A Year After Microsofters Told Us Surveillance Giant Google Was 'Doomed' Surveillance Giant Google Reaches Peak Usage in Africa (Growing at Bing's Expense) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/18/A_Year_After_Microsofters_Told_Us_Google_Was_Doomed_Google_Reac.shtml
[11:40]	TR Bot	 Techrights A Year After Microsofters Told Us Google Was 'Doomed' Google Reaches Peak Usage in Africa (Growing at Bing's Expense)
[11:46]	MinceR	19 042419 <+DaemonFC> Islam is the major enemy on this planet of a lot of people.
[11:47]	MinceR	if left to their own devices, humans will pick an enemy, the two sides will fight, one will exterminate the other, then they'll pick a new enemy
[11:47]	MinceR	repeat until they can't reproduce anymore
[11:47]	MinceR	19 035306 <+schestowitz> not you just glue things
[11:47]	MinceR	we wish we could just glue things
[11:47]	MinceR	that never worked
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[11:52]	TR News	Techrights Claire M. Connelly, Melissa O'Neill & Debian relationship rumors http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Claire_M_Connelly_Melissa_O_Neill_Debian_relationship_rumors.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Claire_M_Connelly_Melissa_O_Neill_Debian_relationship_rumors.gmi 
[11:52]	TR Bot	 Techrights Claire M. Connelly, Melissa O'Neill & Debian relationship rumors
[11:53]	TR News	KeyTrap algorithmic complexity attacks exploit fundamental design flaw in DNSSEC https://blog.apnic.net/2024/02/19/keytrap-algorithmic-complexity-attacks-exploit-fundamental-design-flaw-in-dnssec/
[11:53]	TR Bot	 KeyTrap algorithmic complexity attacks exploit fundamental design flaw in DNSSEC | APNIC Blog
[11:53]	TR News	Moving local settings for pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf out of PGDATA https://dan.langille.org/2024/02/18/moving-local-settings-for-pg_hba-conf-and-postgresql-conf-out-of-pgdata/
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Moving local settings for pg_hba.conf and postgresql.conf out of PGDATA Dan Langille's Other Diary
[11:54]	TR News	Lazy Reading for 2024/02/18 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2024/02/18/lazy-reading-for-2024-02-18/
[11:54]	TR Bot	 Lazy Reading for 2024/02/18 DragonFly BSD Digest
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[12:02]	TR News	Using the Logitech Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad T650 on OpenBSD https://www.tumfatig.net/logitech-t650-openbsd/
[12:02]	TR Bot	 TuM'Fatig - Using the Logitech Wireless Rechargeable Touchpad T650 on OpenBSD
[12:03]	TR News	Guru: Procedure Driven RPG And Adopting The Pillars Of Object-Oriented Programming https://www.itjungle.com/2024/02/19/guru-procedure-driven-rpg-and-adopting-the-pillars-of-object-oriented-programming/
[12:03]	TR Bot	 Guru: Procedure Driven RPG And Adopting The Pillars Of Object-Oriented Programming - IT Jungle
[12:05]	TR News	8-Bit Software Fun: Starting with a Commodore https://rubenerd.com/8-bit-software-fun-starting-with-a-commodore/
[12:05]	TR Bot	8-Bit Software Fun: Starting with a Commodore
[12:14]	TR News	Put the code in the book https://rubenerd.com/put-the-code-in-the-book/
[12:14]	TR Bot	Put the code in the book
[12:14]	TR News	Music Monday: Liners of the Golden Era https://rubenerd.com/liners-of-the-golden-era/
[12:14]	TR Bot	Music Monday: Liners of the Golden Era
[12:15]	TR News	Setting Up JAVA_HOME on Ubuntu https://tecadmin.net/setting-up-java_home-on-ubuntu/
[12:15]	TR Bot	 Setting Up JAVA_HOME on Ubuntu TecAdmin
[12:15]	TR News	Java StackOverflowError: Causes, Diagnostics, and Effective Solutions https://tecadmin.net/java-stackoverflowerror-causes-diagnostics-and-solutions/
[12:15]	TR Bot	 Java StackOverflowError: Causes, Diagnostics, and Solutions
[12:16]	TR News	An Insiders Guide to Java Virtual Machine Architecture https://tecadmin.net/jvm-architecture/
[12:16]	TR Bot	 Java Virtual Machine (JVM) Architecture Explained
[12:16]	TR News	GNU World Order 552 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_552_ogg.ogg
[12:17]	TR News	DebConf24 Debian Conference to Be Held in South Korea from July 28 to August 4 https://9to5linux.com/debconf24-debian-conference-to-be-held-in-south-korea-from-july-28-to-august-4
[12:17]	TR Bot	Debian Conference to Be Held in South Korea from July 28 to August 4 - 9to5Linux
[12:17]	TR News	9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 18th, 2024 https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-february-18th-2024
[12:17]	TR Bot	Weekly Roundup: February 18th, 2024 - 9to5Linux
[12:18]	TR News	elementary OS 8 Enters Early Access, Heres Whats Planned https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/elementary-os-8-plans-early-access
[12:18]	TR Bot	 elementary OS 8 Enters Early Access, Here's What's Planned - OMG! Ubuntu
[12:19]	TR News	Linux depending on Microsoft GitHub garbage. What could POSSIBLY go wrong down the line? https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Kernel-To-Rust-1.77
[12:19]	TR Bot	Linux Kernel Prepares For Rust 1.77 Upgrade - Phoronix
[12:20]	TR News	Report: Microsoft is laying off almost 140 workers in Ireland https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/report-blizzard-is-laying-off-almost-140-workers-in-ireland
[12:20]	TR Bot	 Report: Blizzard is laying off almost 140 workers in Ireland
[12:24]	TR News	Indias fintech star Paytm totters after being hauled up for lapses, prompting industry concerns https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/india-s-fintech-star-paytm-totters-after-being-hauled-up-for-lapses-prompting-industry-concerns
[12:24]	TR Bot	 Indias fintech star Paytm totters after being hauled up for lapses, prompting industry concerns | The Straits Times
[12:25]	TR News	Freeloading Patent Monopolies in Europe (Typically Granted to Non-European Corporations) While the 'EPO Mafia' is "Frontloading" https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Freeloading_Patent_Monopolies_in_Europe_Typically_Granted_to_No.shtml
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights Freeloading Patent Monopolies in Europe (Typically Granted to Non-European Corporations) While the 'EPO Mafia' is "Frontloading"
[12:25]	TR News	[Meme] All Quiet On The Munich Front https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Meme_All_Quiet_On_The_Munich_Front.shtml
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] All Quiet On The Munich Front
[12:25]	TR News	Kernel prepatch 6.8-rc5 https://lwn.net/Articles/962668/
[12:25]	TR Bot	prepatch 6.8-rc5 [LWN.net]
[12:26]	TR News	Rustifying libipuz: character sets https://viruta.org/rustifying-libipuz-charset.html
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Rustifying libipuz: character sets - Federico's Blog
[12:28]	TR News	European Commission reportedly set to fine Fashion Company Apple $539M for antitrust violations https://siliconangle.com/2024/02/18/european-commission-reportedly-set-fine-apple-539m-antitrust-violations/
[12:28]	TR Bot	Commission reportedly set to fine Apple $539M for antitrust violations - SiliconANGLE
[12:39]	TR News	Cops "playing games" in Zuckerburger instead of acting professionally: "The Sonoma County Sheriff's Office made a Facebook (Farcebook) post about the incident on Feb. 15." https://nypost.com/2024/02/19/us-news/california-k-9-finds-pounds-of-meth-hidden-in-dog-treat-boxes-during-traffic-stop-police/
[12:39]	TR Bot	 California K-9 finds pounds of meth hidden in dog treat boxes during traffic stop: police
[12:39]	TR News	Iustin Pop: New skis , new fun! https://k1024.org/posts/2024/2024-02-18-new-skis-new-fun/
[12:39]	TR Bot	 iustin - New skis , new fun!
[12:40]	TR News	Bidder excluded from power grid procurement over security concerns https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/19.02.2024-bidder-excluded-from-power-grid-procurement-over-security-concerns.a543417/
[12:40]	TR Bot	 Bidder excluded from power grid procurement over security concerns / Article
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[13:46]	TR News	Techrights Sexually Harassing and Intimidating Women, Then Sending "Final Warning" to Silence Them by Further Intimidation http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Sexually_Harassing_and_Intimidating_Women_Then_Sending_Final_Wa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Sexually_Harassing_and_Intimidating_Women_Then_Sending_Final_Wa.gmi 
[13:46]	TR Bot	 Techrights Sexually Harassing and Intimidating Women, Then Sending "Final Warning" to Silence Them by Further Intimidation
[13:53]	TR News	Rainbow Island: Amiga music VS Arcade music gemini://gemini.cesco.it/2024-02-09-rainbow-island-music-amiga-vs-arcade
[13:53]	TR News	Academiology III: Investment gemini://njms.ca/gemlog/2024-02-18.gmi
[13:54]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1196.jpg
[13:54]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D846.jpg
[13:55]	TR News	The making of "Another World" (Delphine, 1991) gemini://cesco.smol.pub/1708340737
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[14:04]	TR News	SpellBinding AEFHRYV Wordo: DWELT gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-02-19.gmi
[14:06]	TR News	 (NEW):  Mozilla Firefox 123 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Mozilla_Firefox_123_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Mozilla_Firefox_123_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.gmi 
[14:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 123 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New
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[14:32]	TR News	"A society in which members of different generations do not interact is a dangerous experiment, said one researcher." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/health/intergenerational-programs-older-younger.html
[14:32]	TR Bot	 Old and Young, Talking Again - The New York Times
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[15:03]	TR News	China urges US to end harassment of Chinese students https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-urges-us-to-end-harassment-of-chinese-students
[15:03]	TR Bot	 China urges US to end harassment of Chinese students | The Straits Times
[15:03]	TR News	For Uyghur family, a legacy of rootlessness https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/refugees-02142024151839.html
[15:03]	TR Bot	 For Uyghur family, a legacy of rootlessness Radio Free Asia
[15:04]	TR News	Enraged N Korean workers in China beat factory manager to death: report https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/nkorean-workers-kill-manager-02192024003047.html
[15:04]	TR Bot	 Enraged N Korean workers in China beat factory manager to death: report Radio Free Asia
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[15:21]	TR News	"Since the crew at [CPSdrone] likes to build underwater drones submarines, in other words they need to 3D print waterproof hulls." https://hackaday.com/2024/02/18/extreme-waterproof-3d-prints/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:21]	TR Bot	Waterproof 3D Prints | Hackaday
[15:24]	TR News	"The TRS-80 Model 100 was released in 1983, featuring an 80C85 CPU that can run at 5 MHz, but only runs at a hair under 2.5 MHz, due to 1:2 divider on the input clock. Why cut the speed in half?" https://hackaday.com/2024/02/18/doubling-the-cpu-speed-of-the-trs-80-model-100-with-a-mod-board/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:24]	TR Bot	The CPU Speed Of The TRS-80 Model 100 With A Mod Board | Hackaday
[15:24]	TR News	Finnish kids less nearsighted than Asian peers https://yle.fi/a/74-20075182
[15:24]	TR Bot	 Finnish kids less nearsighted than Asian peers | Yle News | Yle
[15:31]	TR News	"Theres something magical about a train, whether you call it a railway or a railroad, plenty of us have hankered after our own little piece of line on which to shunt wagons or chuff around our domain." https://hackaday.com/2024/02/18/3d-print-train-wheels-for-garden-railway/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:31]	TR Bot	Print Train Wheels For Garden Railway | Hackaday
[15:33]	TR News	"More and more biomarkers that can help in the early diagnosis of diseases like cancer are being discovered every year" https://hackaday.com/2024/02/18/low-cost-saliva-based-biosensor-for-cancer-detection/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:33]	TR Bot	Saliva-based Biosensor For Cancer Detection | Hackaday
[15:37]	TR News	India offers protesting farmers support prices on corn, cotton, pulses https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/india-offers-protesting-farmers-support-prices-on-corn-cotton-pulses
[15:37]	TR Bot	 India offers protesting farmers support prices for corn, cotton and pulses | The Straits Times
[15:37]	TR News	Over at Tux Machines... https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml
[15:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[15:39]	TR News	5 Best Free and Open Source Tox Clients https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-tox-clients/
[15:39]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source Tox Clients - LinuxLinks
[15:44]	TR News	Microchip announces the PolarFire SoC Discovery Kit, a low-cost devkit for GNU/Linux and real-time applications https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/02/19/microchip-polarfire-soc-discovery-kit-low-cost-devkit-for-linux-and-real-time-applications/
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Microchip announces the PolarFire SoC Discovery Kit, a low-cost devkit for Linux and real-time applications - CNX Software
[15:45]	TR News	TWIL 253: Fedora goes Atomic, COSMIC is Coming, GNU/Linux Kernel Security, Mozilla Refocusing & more GNU/Linux news https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-253/
[15:45]	TR Bot	Fedora goes Atomic, COSMIC is Coming, Linux Kernel Security, Mozilla Refocusing & more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[15:45]	TR News	Could Long Covid Be the Senates Bipartisan Cause? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/opinion/long-covid-research-funding.html
[15:45]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Could Long Covid Be the Senates Bipartisan Cause? - The New York Times
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[15:49]	TR News	 (NEW):  Software Releases and Software in Review http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Software_Releases_and_Software_in_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Software_Releases_and_Software_in_Review.gmi 
[15:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Software Releases and Software in Review
[15:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[15:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[15:52]	TR News	 (NEW):  Audio/Video: GNU World Order, This Week in Linux (TWIL), and LINUX Unplugged http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Audio_Video_GNU_World_Order_This_Week_in_Linux_TWIL_and_LINUX_U.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Audio_Video_GNU_World_Order_This_Week_in_Linux_TWIL_and_LINUX_U.gmi 
[15:52]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audio/Video: GNU World Order, This Week in Linux (TWIL), and LINUX Unplugged
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[15:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[15:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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[15:57]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[15:58]	TR News	"Not tasting notes, no; who do you think I am? No, I didn't start drinking coffee till my mid-twenties, and then not black until my thirties. I'm not a supertaster. I'm known for bad opinions. That is to say, what follows should be considered extremely suspect." gemini://rawtext.club/~winter/gemlog/2024/2-19.gmi
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[16:02]	TR News	Techrights Links 19/02/2024: Microsoft Reportedly Set to Cut Even More Jobs, Air Strikes in Yemen Continue http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Links_19_02_2024_Microsoft_Reportedly_Set_to_Cut_Even_More_Jobs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Links_19_02_2024_Microsoft_Reportedly_Set_to_Cut_Even_More_Jobs.gmi 
[16:02]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 19/02/2024: Microsoft Reportedly Set to Cut Even More Jobs, Air Strikes in Yemen Continue
[16:06]	TR News	"Sponsors of elementary OS now have early access to the next major version of the Ubuntu-based desktop Linux operating system." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/02/elementary-os-8-plans-early-access
[16:06]	TR Bot	 elementary OS 8 Enters Early Access, Here's What's Planned - OMG! Ubuntu
[16:08]	TR News	"Users can change accessiblity options for seeing, hearing, typing, pointing and clicking, as well as zoom right from the Ubuntu Desktop Installer" https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-24-04-lts-desktop-installer-will-be-updated-with-accessibility-features
[16:08]	TR Bot	24.04 LTS Desktop Installer Will Be Updated with Accessibility Features - 9to5Linux
[16:08]	TR News	"Ready to take charge of your errands with a desktop Linux app? Here you go!" https://news.itsfoss.com/errands-to-do-app/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 Errands: A Simple and Elegant To-Do Companion for Linux
[16:09]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNOME Network Displays Adds Support for MICE, Chromecast http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNOME_Network_Displays_Adds_Support_for_MICE_Chromecast.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNOME_Network_Displays_Adds_Support_for_MICE_Chromecast.gmi 
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNOME Network Displays Adds Support for MICE, Chromecast
[16:15]	TR News	136 jobs cut as Microsoft axes 68% of employees in Ireland https://www.pocketgamer.biz/news/83455/136-job-cuts-as-blizzard-to-axe-68-of-employees-in-ireland/
[16:15]	TR Bot	 136 job cuts as Blizzard to axe 68% of employees in Ireland | Pocket Gamer.biz | PGbiz
[16:15]	TR News	Blizzard is laying off over 126 employees from its support center in Ireland https://24ssports.com/blizzard-is-laying-off-over-126-employees-from-its-support-center-in-ireland/
[16:15]	TR Bot	is laying off over 126 employees from its support center in Ireland - 24ssports
[16:16]	TR News	"The massive culling of 1,900 workers by Microsoft looks to have had a significant global impact, as Irelands minister for foreign affairs Michal Martin has confirmed that Blizzard will shed 136 employees from a support center in Cork, which is over half of that offices headcount of 200." https://gamersgrade.com/blizzard-is-laying-off-over-126-people-from-its-support-center-in-ireland/
[16:16]	TR Bot	 Blizzard is laying off over 126 people from its support center in Ireland - Gamers Grade
[16:16]	TR News	Plus 126 people will be laid off in Blizzards support center, which is located on Ireland https://game-news24.com/2024/02/19/plus-126-people-will-be-laid-off-in-blizzard-s-support-center-which-is-located-on-ireland/
[16:16]	TR Bot	 Plus 126 people will be laid off in Blizzard's support center, which is located on Ireland - Game News 24
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[16:19]	TR News	Update to the Tic Hosting Solutions data incident https://www.databreaches.net/update-to-the-tic-hosting-solutions-data-incident/
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Update to the Tic Hosting Solutions data incident
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[16:26]	TR News	 (NEW):  Miracle-WM Is a New Tiling Wayland Compositor Based on Mir http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Miracle_WM_Is_a_New_Tiling_Wayland_Compositor_Based_on_Mir.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Miracle_WM_Is_a_New_Tiling_Wayland_Compositor_Based_on_Mir.gmi 
[16:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Miracle-WM Is a New Tiling Wayland Compositor Based on Mir
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[17:33]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/24021639
[17:33]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
[17:46]	TR News	 (NEW):  KDE Gear 23.08.5 Brings More Bug Fixes for Kdenlive, Falkon, and Other Apps http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/KDE_Gear_23_08_5_Brings_More_Bug_Fixes_for_Kdenlive_Falkon_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/KDE_Gear_23_08_5_Brings_More_Bug_Fixes_for_Kdenlive_Falkon_and_.gmi 
[17:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE Gear 23.08.5 Brings More Bug Fixes for Kdenlive, Falkon, and Other Apps
[17:50]	psydroid2	Microsoft packing up its stuff and moving home from Ireland, straight into the Atlantic
[17:52]	schestowitz	OUCH.
● Feb 19
[18:00]	TR News	"Misfin-server is a misfin server implementation written in golang that I have been working on for many months and am continuing to work on, which can easily be seen by the commits of the repo on Gitlab." gemini://auragem.letz.dev/devlog/20240219.gmi
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[18:11]	TR News	The Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, and New Deal in Oklahoma https://www.okhistory.org/learn/depression2
[18:11]	TR Bot	 What was the Dust Bowl? | Oklahoma Historical Society
[18:11]	TR News	Health crisis worsening https://record.umich.edu/articles/study-shows-burnout-rate-high-among-nurses-in-michigan/
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Study shows burnout rate high among nurses in Michigan | The University Record
[18:15]	TR News	Whats going on with all these video game industry layoffs? https://www.polygon.com/gaming/24074767/video-game-industry-layoffs-explainer
[18:15]	TR Bot	the video game industry is seeing so many layoffs - Polygon
[18:16]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNOME 46: Best New Features http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNOME_46_Best_New_Features.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNOME_46_Best_New_Features.gmi 
[18:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNOME 46: Best New Features
[18:17]	TR News	"Open" HEY HI is in debt and cannot make money. It's not worth 80 billion dollars, it's just another example of Wall Street being a Ponzi scheme enabler for grifters and frauds.
[18:18]	TR News	"Immortals Of Aveum was one of the most high-profile financial flops of last year, almost instantly resulting in severe layoffs at developer Ascendant Studios." https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/19/asda-selling-immortals-aveum-just-1-20305607/amp/
[18:18]	TR Bot	 Asda is selling Immortals Of Aveum for just 1
[18:22]	TR News	In Indonesia GNU/Linux can hit 5% this year https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/indonesia/#monthly-200903-202402 Malsysia also https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/malaysia/#monthly-200903-202402
[18:22]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Indonesia | Statcounter Global Stats
[18:22]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Malaysia | Statcounter Global Stats
[18:41]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux in Iceland: From 1% to 6% in Less Than a Decade http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNU_Linux_in_Iceland_From_1_to_6_in_Less_Than_a_Decade.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/GNU_Linux_in_Iceland_From_1_to_6_in_Less_Than_a_Decade.gmi 
[18:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux in Iceland: From 1% to 6% in Less Than a Decade
[18:59]	TR News	Windows below 15% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/india/#monthly-200901-202402
[18:59]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats
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[19:00]	TR News	And Bing at 1% https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share/all/india/#monthly-200901-202402
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Search Engine Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:08]	TR News	Firefox rebounding in US? https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/united-states-of-america/#monthly-200901-202402
[19:08]	TR Bot	 Browser Market Share United States Of America | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:10]	TR News	GNU/Linux 6% in Cuba? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/cuba/#monthly-200901-202402
[19:10]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Cuba | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:23]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/24021638
[19:23]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
[19:31]	TR News	Techrights GNU/Linux in Egypt: From 0.1% to 6% in 15 Years http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/GNU_Linux_in_Egypt_From_0_1_to_6_in_15_Years.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/GNU_Linux_in_Egypt_From_0_1_to_6_in_15_Years.gmi 
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights GNU/Linux in Egypt: From 0.1% to 6% in 15 Years
[19:32]	TR News	Quarter of staff culled https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/baldurs-gate-3-devs-hit-out-at-industry-wide-lay-offs-3589603
[19:32]	TR Bot	 'Baldurs Gate 3' devs hit out at industry-wide lay offs
[19:46]	admfubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=2004301
[19:46]	TR Bot	 International Nest Aware subscriptions jump in price, as much as 100% | Ars Technica
[19:53]	TR News	Techrights Why Microsoft is Promoting/Hyping Up XBox Vapourware (Hardware That Does Not Even Exist) and 'Store' (or Titles) Instead of Physical Products http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Why_Microsoft_is_Promoting_Hyping_Up_XBox_Vapourware_Hardware_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Why_Microsoft_is_Promoting_Hyping_Up_XBox_Vapourware_Hardware_T.gmi 
[19:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights Why Microsoft is Promoting/Hyping Up XBox Vapourware (Hardware That Does Not Even Exist) and 'Store' (or Titles) Instead of Physical Products
[19:56]	TR News	Microsoft down to 60% on desktops and laptops in South Africa. That's genocide. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/south-africa/#monthly-200901-202402
[19:56]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share South Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:57]	TR News	6% in ethiopia too https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ethiopia/#monthly-200901-202402
[19:57]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Ethiopia | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:59]	schestowitz	admfubar> https://arstechnica.com/?p=2004301
[19:59]	schestowitz	smart homes
[19:59]	schestowitz	not so smart tenants
● Feb 19
[20:01]	TR News	 (NEW):  Calamares 3.3.2 Installer Improves Manual Partitioning and Qt 6 Compatibility http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Calamares_3_3_2_Installer_Improves_Manual_Partitioning_and_Qt_6.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/19/Calamares_3_3_2_Installer_Improves_Manual_Partitioning_and_Qt_6.gmi 
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Calamares 3.3.2 Installer Improves Manual Partitioning and Qt 6 Compatibility
[20:02]	TR News	The kids can't write anymore gemini://qwel.smol.pub/the-kids-cant-write-anymore
[20:03]	TR News	"This community is where they will write. They talk with their parents, their teachers, and other people in everyday life. They only write for friends and social media." gemini://qwel.smol.pub/the-kids-cant-write-anymore
[20:05]	TR News	Kitchen Renovation gopher://circumlunar.space:70/1/~sloum/phlog
[20:06]	TR News	"Why is working with contractors and people who do this kind of work always a flaky mess? If I take a job, we agree on a time, place, and cost and I am there on time doing the job for the agreed upon amount. I just don't get this business model." gopher://circumlunar.space:70/0/~sloum/phlog/counters.txt
[20:31]	admfubar	smart homes for dumb people...
[20:31]	schestowitz	dump homes for smarter people
[20:32]	schestowitz	homes for people
[20:32]	schestowitz	in navalny's russia, people are for homes
[20:33]	schestowitz	in navalny's russia, kyiv shells putin
[20:38]	admfubar	smut homes for horny people. >:)
[20:41]	schestowitz	those are not horns, they are wifi antennas, thankyouveryMOCH!~
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[20:52]	admfubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/02/dont-fall-latest-changes-dangerous-kids-online-safety-act
[20:52]	TR Bot	 Dont Fall for the Latest Changes to the Dangerous Kids Online Safety Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[20:53]	admfubar	cant be considering where they are sticking them....
● Feb 19
[21:00]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/sacked-x-employees-in-africa-finally-get-their-severances-after-a-year-of-being-laid-off-13739438.html
[21:00]	TR Bot	X employees in Africa finally get their severances after a year of being laid off Firstpost
[21:00]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/google-gives-employee-a-300-per-cent-pay-hike-to-stop-him-from-joining-rival-ai-company-13739293.html
[21:00]	TR Bot	gives employee a 300% pay hike to stop him from joining rival AI company Firstpost
[21:01]	admfubar	http://www.firstpost.com/tech/world/after-dissing-apple-vision-pro-meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-now-asking-advertisers-to-ditch-iphones-ipads-13735852.html
[21:01]	TR Bot	dissing Apple Vision Pro, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg now asking advertisers to ditch iPhones, iPads Firstpost
[21:02]	schestowitz	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Google gives employee a 300% pay hike to stop him from joining rival AI company Firstpost
[21:02]	schestowitz	anecdote 
[21:02]	schestowitz	not the norm
[21:02]	schestowitz	tweet-like
[21:02]	schestowitz	clickbait
[21:02]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/explosive-book-claims-elon-musk-bought-twitter-fired-former-ceo-parag-agrawal-for-a-petty-reason-13719702.html
[21:02]	TR Bot	book claims Elon Musk bought Twitter, fired former CEO Parag Agrawal for a petty reason Firstpost
[21:04]	admfubar	http://www.firstpost.com/tech/world/chinese-hackers-infiltrated-critical-us-train-water-systems-ages-ago-lurked-in-shadows-for-5-years-13707442.html
[21:04]	TR Bot	hackers infiltrated critical US infra like train, water systems ages ago, lurked in shadows for 5 years Firstpost
[21:04]	TR News	Techrights [Meme] Not Only XBox is Failing at Microsoft (There's a Comprehensive Cover-up) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Meme_Not_Only_XBox_is_Failing_at_Microsoft_There_s_a_Comprehens.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/19/Meme_Not_Only_XBox_is_Failing_at_Microsoft_There_s_a_Comprehens.gmi 
[21:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Not Only XBox is Failing at Microsoft (There's a Comprehensive Cover-up)
[21:07]	DaemonFC	> [2/19/24 5:46 am] <MinceR> 19 042419 <+DaemonFC> Islam is the major enemy on this planet of a lot of people.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	> [2/19/24 5:47 am] <MinceR> if left to their own devices, humans will pick an enemy, the two sides will fight, one will exterminate the other, then they'll pick a new enemy
[21:07]	DaemonFC	> [2/19/24 5:47 am] <MinceR> repeat until they can't reproduce anymore
[21:07]	DaemonFC	---
[21:07]	DaemonFC	It's like The Sandkings.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	The George R.R. Martin story that got adapted to the pilot of The Outer Limits 1995.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Eventually the two sides developed different colors, and different Gods and started killing each other.
[21:08]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/intel-to-delay-ohio-plant-citing-slowdown-in-demand-for-chips-shares-tumble-13681802.html
[21:08]	TR Bot	to delay Ohio plant citing slowdown in demand for chips, shares tumble Firstpost
[21:08]	DaemonFC	And all it took was for the scientist that was watching them to deprive them of some comfort (enough food to eat).
[21:10]	DaemonFC	It's not completely clear that they viewed him as a God. The other guy (the scientist that was going to shut him down) fell in and got eaten by starving Sandkings and then the ones making a nest in the basement made their mound look like his face.
[21:10]	DaemonFC	But what is clear is that when deprived, they formed two distinct groups and went to war.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	In human society, wars tend to break out under a few conditions.
[21:11]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/extraterrestrial-life-on-mars-nasas-perseverance-rover-may-have-collected-evidence-of-life-on-red-planet-13668262.html
[21:11]	TR Bot	Life on Mars? NASAs Perseverance Rover may have collected evidence of life on Red Planet Firstpost
[21:11]	DaemonFC	There's always religion, but more often it's resource contention and the haves vs. the have nots.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	And when times are tough, you get tough people.
[21:12]	DaemonFC	The disaster the left will soon realize is that they've made life very difficult for a lot of people in this country.
[21:12]	DaemonFC	They've done it deliberately while also deliberately taunting the same people.
[21:12]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/elon-musk-to-be-ousted-from-tesla-ceo-scared-he-might-be-voted-out-13657062.html
[21:12]	TR Bot	Musk to be ousted from Tesla? CEO scared he might be voted out Firstpost
[21:12]	DaemonFC	Calling us names and laughing and forcing us to watch the community morals being destroyed while they parade around all kinds of corruption.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	And there will be a reckoning from it. The only reason the country hasn't torn itself apart yet is that the people who have been stolen from, humiliated, and forced to watch as the government gives all their belongings to invaders and creeps and weirdos, still have an election.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	But if Biden wins there's no telling what could happen.
[21:14]	admfubar	repair??  https://www.firstpost.com/tech/apples-vision-pro-sold-over-180000-units-within-minutes-but-customers-cant-risk-damaging-it-13650182.html
[21:14]	TR Bot	sold over 180,000 units of Vision Pro within minutes, but customers cant risk damaging it Firstpost
[21:14]	DaemonFC	I'm not extreme to the point where I would take part in that.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	But it doesn't take many who are.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Not that we need Canadians commenting on our electoral system.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	We're quite capable of screwing it up ourselves without help from people who have a government that's fucked up and tyrannical in slightly different ways.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	But I will say this much.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Biden and Trump should both be disqualified from the ballot and in prison.
[21:17]	DaemonFC	But out of the two, Trump has at least had a business outside the government.
[21:17]	DaemonFC	Biden has been in government since the 70s. It's impossible to call him anything except a Washington insider who has never known how the private sector works.
[21:19]	DaemonFC	Getting politicians who dodged drafts, have never owned a business, and thinks that government transfer payments "create" things and "invest" (usually in bankrupt green energy companies) is very wrongheaded and we do not need any more of that.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	If the voting public ever realized the truth, being that politicians neither "invest" nor "create", they siphon, we'd be a hell of a lot better off than we are today.
[21:21]	DaemonFC	Even Jimmy Carter was a far more worthy President than Biden. Running a peanut farm and not spending his entire adult life making corrupt back room deals in Washington.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	If there's a dirtier office in the entire universe than Congress, it's Satan's office, which Biden is probably giving him green energy credits for. (Hell is perpetually on fire, from what I've been told.)
[21:24]	MinceR	19 221137 <+DaemonFC> There's always religion, but more often it's resource contention and the haves vs. the have nots.
[21:24]	MinceR	there are so many criteria humans are willing to use as a basis to exterminate each other
[21:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The landlord apparently ran the guy down the hall out of the building.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	He's lived here for years and now the place is empty.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	Making existing tenants unhappy is not a good business strategy, especially when you've really been striking out with new ones.
[21:27]	DaemonFC	He already had to lower the rent he was asking for on the one across the hall 20% after he had already remodeled the entire thing.
[21:27]	DaemonFC	There's some guy living in there now that's always yelling over some video game headset.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	Really foul mouthed.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	Paying less than us even!
[21:28]	DaemonFC	It's like watching the politicians feeding the invaders and criminals from Venezuela while you have to pay into the system to enable it or they threaten you if you don't.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The local Democrats 
[21:32]	DaemonFC	"invest" another $350 million into the illegal Venezuelans living in hotel rooms and eating our porridge.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	What happens if we fail to invest? Well, taxation is theft, and it's mandatory theft, but "investment" sounds better.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Continuing the analogy, the dividend will be more murders, rapes, and organized retail theft.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	These only get prosecuted if you're a Citizen and especially, a White one. So we just get to keep investing and getting the dividends.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Even if they arrest any of them, Catholic Charities will just put them on a bus to California the next day and we'll never see "Juan" again.
[21:34]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> schestowitz: The landlord apparently ran the guy down the hall out of the building.
[21:34]	schestowitz	lol
[21:34]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Then again, as long as the Catholics are giving them bus tickets, it might as well be to California.
[21:34]	schestowitz	fun
[21:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Great news. The government might unfreeze mom's retirement account soon as the embezzler may not have touched that one.
[21:35]	DaemonFC	We'll know more eventually.
[21:35]	schestowitz	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Apple sold over 180,000 units of Vision Pro within minutes, but customers cant risk damaging it Firstpost
[21:35]	schestowitz	'sold'
[21:35]	schestowitz	it's just some webform
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Then the $2,000 she saved for retirement in the last 50 years will finally come right back to her.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Minus the $100 fee for asking for it.
[21:36]	schestowitz	joy.
[21:36]	schestowitz	(not the landlady)
[21:37]	DaemonFC	You know looking back....
[21:37]	DaemonFC	Maybe I should have fucked her when she wanted me to.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	She clearly needed it and was going through some shit at the time.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	A good orgasm really clears the mind.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	Joy was a real trip though.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	Waking up with your landlord standing over you in bed is somethingelse.
[21:39]	TR News	"I went to the el chorro climbing area in spain, lovely, great climbing, had loads of fun (and saw some great vultures, lizards and other wildlife), also went to granada and went in the cathedral, holy crap is it filled with gold, just gold, everywhere... modesty guys? Can kinda see what Martin Luther was talking about." gemini://thilosaur.flounder.online/gemlog/2024-02-19.gmi
[21:40]	TR News	Top of the list: "gemini.techrights.org: 10000 URLs" gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[21:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Joy was clearly obsessing over me.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	And after that incident, it turned really ugly.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	She seems to be socially maladapted.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The hotel manager was really nice at least when I had to live there.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	She said "No, we don't allow cats, but if you tell me they're service animals I'm not allowed to ask what they're for and you can have them."
[21:48]	DaemonFC	So they became emotional support cats because that's actually a state law apparently.
[21:58]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: The radio said a lot of people are returning them saying they're uncomfortable and not useful enough to cost $3,500.
[21:58]	DaemonFC	LOL
[21:58]	DaemonFC	$3,500 is nearly four months rent. Even in this economy.
[21:58]	DaemonFC	So they can have a VR headset for what exactly?
[21:58]	DaemonFC	I think a $10 Google Cardboard can do VR porn.
● Feb 19
[22:02]	DaemonFC	> Successor
[22:02]	DaemonFC	> The success of Cardboard convinced Google to develop more advanced virtual reality hardware and appoint a new chief of virtual reality.[41] Google announced an enhanced VR platform called Daydream at Google I/O on May 18, 2016.[42] The platform's first headset, the Daydream View, was released on November 10, 2016.[43]
[22:02]	DaemonFC	> Google Daydream was not widely adopted by consumers or developers, and in October 2019 Google announced that the Daydream View headset had been discontinued[44] and that they would no longer certify new devices for Daydream.[45] 
[22:02]	DaemonFC	----
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Google Cardboard was probably successful because it didn't cost much.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	But now it's in the google graveyard.
[22:03]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gen-z-treating-employers-bad-121633798.html
[22:03]	TR Bot	 Gen Z are treating employers like bad dates: 93% ghost interviews and 87% have not even shown up for their first day of work
[22:03]	DaemonFC	LOL
[22:04]	MinceR	will google also shut down Google Graveyard?
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Apparently enough Boomers have gone "to the other side of the ledger" to open us up for GenZ bashing.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	> Ghosting isnt just for dating anymore. Now Gen Z are treating their would-be employers like bad dates and not showing up for job interviews or their first day on the job without as much as a phone call.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	> Employment website Indeed surveyed 1,500 businesses and 1,500 working people in the U.K. and found that job ghosting is rife, with 75% of workers saying theyve ignored a prospective employer in the past year.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	> But the youngest generation of workers are by far the worst offenders.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	---
[22:05]	DaemonFC	Walmart fires people by removing them from the schedule and letting them ask Reddit if they've been fired.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	Apparently this is fine.
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[22:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: "Your Flow Finished" -SalesFARCE
[22:09]	DaemonFC	Ahh good, same time next month?
[22:09]	DaemonFC	:D
[22:09]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[22:09]	DaemonFC	A visit from Aunt Flo.
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[22:29]	admfubar	https://papersplease.org/wp/2024/01/23/ids-and-mug-shots-now-required-from-all-corporate-principals/
[22:29]	TR Bot	 IDs and mug shots now required from all corporate principals Papers, Please!
[22:43]	DaemonFC	I've walked out on a job after a day, but only once.
[22:43]	DaemonFC	The place turned out to basically be a sweatshop and it didn't pay much different than the job I already had.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	I told them I'd start on my day off, that way if I didn't like the place I could just hand in my notice at the end of the shift and my other job wouldn't know I'd ever done it.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	There's a lot more risk involved in quitting a job you already have to see if you like the other one better. So I just didn't do that.
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Most employers just walk you into the manager's office and fire you without worrying about how it will disrupt your life. Some now even just take you off the schedule and don't even bother to tell you, or fire you over email.
[22:50]	DaemonFC	They demand two weeks notice, but they never give that to anyone.
[22:50]	DaemonFC	They never say "Oh, we're going to fire you in two weeks. Just letting you know what to expect so you can get your situation sorted with the landlord and all the credit cards and doctor's bills."
[22:51]	DaemonFC	Employment is a predatory relationship where you need them more than they need you. It's like landlords.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	Raise the rent every year. Yell at the guy who painted your entire bathroom instead of just a coat over the mold.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	Steal your deposit on the way out.
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[23:02]	psydruid	I refused to move out of my studio until my deposit was given back to me
[23:03]	psydruid	I even locked the door to my bedroom and kept the key with me, whenever I went out
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[23:09]	psydruid	I think the person is crashing my client again
[23:09]	psydruid	It only happens here
[23:17]	psydruid	and now it's suddenly gone
[23:18]	psydruid	these microshits are annoying as fuck
[23:20]	admfubar	could be worse.. could be a megashit.. ;)
[23:26]	DaemonFC	That small bathroom dehumidifier seems to be helping. It keeps the humidity in the apartment around 45% instead of 60%. But it does it slowly. Doesn't use a lot of electric.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	I just turn on the big one for a while after we shower.
[23:26]	psydruid	mega mega shit thing :)
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Mega mega shit thing?
[23:34]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/m/150df5de-dc41-3272-af21-316ce0807c4e/capital-one-is-buying.html
[23:34]	TR Bot	 Capital One Is Buying Discover Financial
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Wow.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: ^
[23:34]	DaemonFC	I knew Discover was in trouble.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Which is odd.
[23:34]	DaemonFC	After AmEx they're the hardest bank to get a credit card from.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	Capital One is a predatory bottom feeder.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	They lost a lot of money on me and gave me another card.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	Citi won't ever talk to me again.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	I used to call them "Shitty Bank" and that was before the Revlon fiasco.
[23:36]	MinceR	god damn mongorians broke down my shitty wall
[23:37]	DaemonFC	God damn Mongorians gave $700 million to Revlon creditors!
[23:37]	DaemonFC	Whoops, wrong button.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	:P
[23:38]	DaemonFC	MinceR: They "negotiated" with some of the creditors to hand it back.
[23:38]	psydruid	DaemonFC: it's a reference to a techno song from the 90s by Underworld combined with the micro/mega shit remark
[23:38]	DaemonFC	Some of the others say "Well, you prepaid and that's not our fault."
[23:39]	psydruid	in the lyrics it says "mega mega white thing"
[23:39]	DaemonFC	It's like, let's pretend you have all the money you need to pay off your entire mortgage.
[23:39]	DaemonFC	But...
[23:39]	DaemonFC	You want to hold onto it because you signed a mortgage at 2% back when that was a thing.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	You decide to build a CD ladder to make interest payments to you of 5%, but release the money as you need it to pay the mortgage payments.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	But while you were going to do this, you hit the wrong button and accidentally paid the mortgage off.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	Then you threaten them if they don't hand it back. No that's not how it works.
[23:40]	psydruid	and microshit is a reference to the Microsoft moles who apparently still camp here
[23:41]	DaemonFC	Citi wanted to hold onto the money for lots of reasons.
[23:41]	psydruid	Lobsta Inc. is one of those
[23:41]	DaemonFC	Including the fact that Revlon is ultimately responsible for the loan payments, and when Citi prepaid the loans, they assumed the risk that Revlon would screw THEM.
[23:42]	DaemonFC	So they panicked.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-lays-off-thousands-more-210822278.html
[23:49]	TR Bot	 Google Lays Off Thousands More Employees Despite Record Profits One Year After Laying off 12,000 Employees As Workers Begin Worrying AI is Slowly Replacing Them
[23:49]	DaemonFC	> Google has initiated significant layoffs across its various teams, including the Voice Assistant, hardware, engineering and ad sales teams, marking a continuation of the tech industrys trend towards reducing workforce expenses. The layoffs have affected hundreds of employees within the Voice Assistant unit; hardware teams responsible for Pixel, Nest and Fitbit products; and a considerable portion of the augmented reality (AR) team. This move is 
[23:49]	DaemonFC	part of Googles broader effort to streamline operations and align resources with its most significant product priorities.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	> According to The Verge, the total number is in the thousands. 
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Another sweeping round of layoffs at Google.
[23:50]	DaemonFC	Even the ad sales team.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.lajollalight.com/news/education/story/2024-02-16/san-diego-unified-plans-to-issue-teacher-layoff-notices-as-district-seeks-budget-cuts
[23:51]	TR Bot	 San Diego Unified plans to issue teacher layoff notices as district seeks budget cuts - La Jolla Light
[23:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/xbox-embarcer-layoffs-response-not-good/
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