●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 19, 2021 ●● ● Jul 19 [00:00] brabo/fn just try [00:00] phanes/fn i dont need to [00:00] phanes/fn you're coming at yourself [00:00] brabo/fn no [00:00] brabo/fn because you think you have my name already [00:00] brabo/fn which you do not [00:00] phanes/fn i am not afraid of you [00:00] phanes/fn you don't have the resources to hurt me [00:00] brabo/fn that is funny [00:00] phanes/fn i did meet alot of wonderful people finding out who you are though [00:00] Noisytoot if you're correct about brabo's identity, you've already said it in a publicly logged channel [00:00] brabo/fn are you a professional clown or just dabbing your feet? [00:01] brabo/fn noisytoot: and he doxed an innocent person [00:01] phanes/fn the folks at autistici.org in particular are a great and benevolant organizations doing some neat things for people [00:01] brabo/fn which is.. nice? [00:01] brabo/fn phanes: i know [00:01] brabo/fn half of a/i are friend [00:01] phanes/fn i know [00:01] phanes/fn i think you have misprofiled your adversary, silvius [00:01] phanes/fn instead lets work this out [00:01] phanes/fn and then that wont matter [00:01] brabo/fn so you figured out my email, and did not even bother to email me about your proclaimed gripe? [00:02] brabo/fn phanes: hah [00:02] brabo/fn just try man [00:02] phanes/fn just try what? [00:02] brabo/fn or make this go away by apologizing [00:02] phanes/fn will that result in my ownership of the nick? [00:02] brabo/fn a public apology would open the door to some conversation. the outcome of that i cannot guarantee. [00:03] phanes/fn i'd be willing to make mitigating statements to facilitate that once i have confirmed ownership. [00:03] phanes/fn i can commit to that, even. [00:03] brabo/fn you did the first aggression. apologie if you want to have a grown up conv. [00:03] phanes/fn i dont want a war. i just want you to stop. [00:03] brabo/fn *apologize [00:03] brabo/fn and i want you to apologize before we can have a grown up conv [00:03] phanes/fn I look forward to hearing your acceptance of my terms. [00:03] brabo/fn to me, to my colleague, and publicly [00:04] brabo/fn phanes: your terms mean jack shit to me if you do not apologize. [00:04] brabo/fn am i being clear? [00:04] phanes/fn Ok, well, sorry it didn't work out. [00:04] phanes/fn I did try. [00:05] brabo/fn you did not try, you tried to reverse the situation, are unwilling to apologize for your transgressions, and now try to spin it like i am the person unwilling to resolve this civilly. [00:05] brabo/fn that is not trying, that is manipulative behaviour [00:06] phanes/fn yes you did have my nick dropped so that you could anchor my identity, and you did assume that nick to be able to register it, impersonating me in the process. these are things you did absolutely do, and they were done out of spite because i kept the doors open while your friends tried to burn the place down. [00:06] phanes/fn these are not new revelations [00:06] brabo/fn i did not [00:06] brabo/fn again with the false accusations [00:06] phanes/fn you did, and its so obvious i dont know why you deny it [00:06] brabo/fn i did not [00:06] brabo/fn and i do not even have the power to drop someones nick of nickserv of any irc network [00:06] phanes/fn you had jess drop it [00:06] phanes/fn this occured in may [00:06] brabo/fn so, want to maybe stop making false accusations? [00:06] brabo/fn i did not have jess do anything [00:07] brabo/fn so, want to maybe stop making false accusations? [00:07] phanes/fn i made a perfectly reasonable proposal that benefits both of us [00:07] brabo/fn you say you want peace but you keep up the false accusations, so.. [00:07] brabo/fn and i did tto [00:07] brabo/fn *too [00:07] phanes/fn you drop nick, i reclaim, i go clean up your mess [00:07] brabo/fn apologize and then maybe we can talk [00:07] brabo/fn no [00:07] brabo/fn that is extortion you manipulative asshat [00:08] phanes/fn do you have counter-terms [00:08] brabo/fn i made them, [00:08] brabo/fn *apologize* [00:08] brabo/fn and then maybe we can talk as grown ups, once you act like one. [00:08] brabo/fn own your mistake [00:08] phanes/fn im sorry, i missed them somewhere in the text. there would need to be more firmness in that given your behaviour so far. [00:08] brabo/fn well, my behaviour is only due to yours :p [00:09] brabo/fn do not twist this [00:09] phanes/fn ah yes i made you do those things on libera as me [00:09] brabo/fn act like an adult, own your fuckup. [00:09] brabo/fn i did not do anything on libera as "you" [00:09] brabo/fn so stop that BS [00:09] phanes/fn i cannot help but sense that this path is one to justice [00:09] brabo/fn yeah sure. i can serve that. [00:10] phanes/fn sorry bero brabant, your terms are inadequate and only serve you with no benefit in return. [00:11] XRevan86 phanes: What did brabo do as phanes on Libera? Any examples whatsoever? [00:11] phanes/fn XRevan86 I'm holding onto my cards for later events. [00:11] phanes/fn Just in case. [00:11] brabo/fn and here i was thinking that a reasonable person would be capable of apologising for transgressions. and i mean, definately if there was something they wanted from the other party.. [00:12] brabo/fn 01:11:31 < tr-bridge> [XRevan86/tr] phanes: What did brabo do as phanes on Libera? Any examples whatsoever? [00:12] brabo/fn nothing [00:12] XRevan86 So right now all this is bare talk. [00:12] brabo/fn he is just making more false accusations [00:12] brabo/fn that seems to be his style [00:12] Noisytoot phanes of leenode trying to get my irl identity [00:12] Noisytoot he can't have it i took his nickname [00:12] Noisytoot * brabo is now known as phanes [00:12] Noisytoot i am a little wanker and trying to incorrectly dox this brabo person for regging my nickname on libera [00:12] Noisytoot * phanes is now known as brabo [00:12] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:12] phanes/fn If he drops the nick, it'll be a moot point and he'll get what he wants. Lets see if he has the self control to do it. [00:12] brabo/fn character assassination without any proof. [00:12] Noisytoot I think that's the only thing brabo did as phanes [00:12] Noisytoot in ##moshpit [00:12] brabo/fn phanes: well, that was AFTER you contacted my colleague with your slander, right? [00:12] brabo/fn so, blame yourself for that one ;) [00:13] XRevan86 Noisytoot: Yea, that was transparent mocking. [00:13] *phanes/fn puts on a song and pours a few fingers of a nice balvenie [00:13] Noisytoot phanes: You would be more effective if you didn't try to dox brabo (and just asked for the nick) [00:14] brabo/fn noisytoot: that was fair game after him contacting a colleague of mine with slanderous accusations and naming an unrelated person (oh i am sure he was not trying to dox! can be seen from his savvy about a/i and shit!) [00:14] phanes/fn This was attempted. [00:14] brabo/fn phanes: like a toddler does. [00:14] XRevan86 There's something I don't understand: brabo, why did ye register "phanes" in the first place? [00:14] brabo/fn but this won't go away because you hope it will ;) [00:14] phanes/fn And for the record, the intent in tracking him down was to ask him directly without the veil of his anonymous ragemonster persona. [00:14] brabo/fn XRevan86: because i wanted to. [00:14] brabo/fn do i need more reasons? [00:14] phanes/fn And that's what got you here. [00:14] brabo/fn does he hold a copyright or trademark or so? [00:15] XRevan86 brabo: Where did ye see it? What's your connection to being phanes? [00:15] brabo/fn XRevan86: i wanted to have this nick. i have no connection to this Dad/bagira being [00:15] phanes/fn I think he thought I might not be accustomed to dealing with aggressive people or could catch me offguard and get what he wants, like maybe he's used to dealing with people with low T levels or something. [00:16] XRevan86 brabo: It's not a random string of characters, there's are stories behind nicknames. [00:16] brabo/fn all i want is a fucking apology for your transgressions you twat. [00:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:16] phanes/fn And all I want is my identity back. [00:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@qs85vf9e4niec.irc) has joined #techrights [00:16] phanes/fn I propose a trade. [00:16] XRevan86 brabo: Why though? Why not "ares" or "ladycow"? [00:16] brabo/fn your identity. can you prove to me this is *your* nickname? like, a trademark filing or so? [00:17] brabo/fn phanes: and i propose you apologize and then maybe we can talk like adults do. [00:17] XRevan86 "hellfiregod", one can think of lots of nicknames. [00:17] phanes/fn Wrong track. [00:17] brabo/fn instead of this backhanded lowlife contacting colleagues with false accusations and wrong names [00:17] brabo/fn you could at any time have contacted me [00:18] phanes/fn I don't need to have a legal trademark on an identity I've had for years. You knew what you were doing when you did it. [00:18] brabo/fn and we could have had a civil conv. [00:18] brabo/fn but not this way dude. [00:18] phanes/fn then perhaps be less of an aggressive twat when behind an almost anonymous alias [00:18] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [00:18] brabo/fn instead you are contacting colleague of mine, asking here. you knew where to find me. you're not *that* dumb. [00:19] phanes/fn no it was deliberate, there is a way to handle people who try to attack you with underhanded methods through anonymouys personas [00:19] phanes/fn that always involves unmasking them [00:19] brabo/fn phanes: well, do aggressive actions like you did, you get the same. i am like a mirror. [00:19] phanes/fn because that's the real source of their invulnerability [00:19] phanes/fn we both know that [00:19] brabo/fn and i tell you, you failed at that, and you have 0 chance at succeeding at that. [00:19] phanes/fn you wouldn't try so hard to bury your real name if you didn't [00:19] brabo/fn i do not have to try to bury it even dude. [00:20] XRevan86 brabo: Let me ask a simpler question: did ye have knowledge of phanes/fn when registering that nickname on Libera? [00:20] brabo/fn it is nowhere. [00:20] phanes/fn he did he had been banned several times that day for trolling on freenode [00:20] phanes/fn he was BOILING mad about the freenode/libera split [00:20] phanes/fn and was with that crowd that was directing their anger at the volunteers and staff at freenode trying to keep the doors open while his friends tried to burn it down [00:20] brabo/fn well i think we have a case of disagreeing perspectives here. imho you lot were trolling the communities on freenode ;) [00:21] XRevan86 How is my question "a perspective"? [00:21] brabo/fn i was boiling mad about you twats swooping in, pretending to be there to save us all, when that was far from the truth [00:21] brabo/fn and the proof root/rasengan talked about so much? still have to see it, you know.. [00:21] phanes/fn i have documented my struggle to clean up freenode for years [00:21] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [00:21] phanes/fn publicly [00:22] XRevan86 Noisytoot: I think brabo just confirmed phanes' accusation. [00:22] brabo/fn phanes: you are trying to take a sidepath [00:22] phanes/fn unless you presume to say that i forged a narrative since 2017 in anticipation of freenode being acquired [00:22] phanes/fn that would be an enormous amount of work btw [00:22] brabo/fn this conv is about you making false accusations of me impersonating you towards a colleague of mine [00:22] phanes/fn i believe that you did [00:22] brabo/fn and i say: where is the fucking proof? [00:23] XRevan86 brabo: Ye took the nickname phanes while knowing phanes/fn is known by it on IRC. [00:23] phanes/fn your reaction here is a good indicator [00:24] phanes/fn oh hey i found a bookmark of a thread of me in 2012 talking about the problems i came on freenode to clean up [00:24] phanes/fn saving that one for later [00:25] phanes/fn in any case i think we may be on a bad track here, getting him to admit his part is something we could expect of a fully developed adult; i would press instead to say that the most amicable path is for us to say what we're willing to do to make a bridge here instead of burning one down [00:26] phanes/fn what i am willing to do is (in my mind) cover up for you to your colleague -- that is conditional on you releasing the nick and ensuring a transition to an email that i own [00:26] brabo/fn phanes: cover up for me? you think he doesn't know the truth after i said: ah this is one leenode staffers? [00:26] phanes/fn im not a staffer [00:27] brabo/fn you think he stayed here after you lot took over and made it clear people aren't welcome? [00:27] brabo/fn oh you got ditched fast! i wonder why. [00:27] phanes/fn ok then it sounds you like you dont want or need whatever it is you're demanding to block transition of my identity to me [00:27] brabo/fn anyway. you know where to find me. i do suggest to not dally on that apology ;) [00:28] XRevan86 phanes: I think this discussion can be used as evidence that brabo wasn't acting in good faith when taking the nickname. If the Libera staff is willing to read through all the mutual nonsense to get to the point. [00:28] brabo/fn i just want an apology before we can talk like grownups [00:28] brabo/fn as i said [00:28] phanes/fn XRevan86 I agree, and I apologize for using this channel as the stage for it to be pulled to. I needed it to be somewhere very public. [00:28] brabo/fn XRevan86: how so? what did i say that proves i was acting in bad faith? are you a sock? [00:28] phanes/fn That way he can't challenge the log of it. [00:28] brabo/fn phanes: bull shit. you could have contacted me at any time [00:29] brabo/fn as an adult [00:29] phanes/fn just needed people to see what i was dealing with [00:29] brabo/fn instead you went kindergarten shit [00:29] phanes/fn i researched you ahead of time because im not an idiot [00:29] brabo/fn sure [00:29] brabo/fn oh [00:29] brabo/fn so what did you find on me? me, bero, as you think? [00:29] XRevan86 brabo: Ye dodged a direct question while indirectly replying to it positively. [00:30] XRevan86 "i was boiling mad about you twats swooping in, pretending to be there to save us all, when that was far from the truth" this is admission to having prior knowledge about phanes. [00:30] brabo/fn XRevan86: which question did i dodge, and how is that worse than contacting someones colleague to flat out make false accusations? [00:30] phanes/fn i found a bright autist with a lot of talents, and none of those talents involved people. You are very angry, to the point of being hijacked and its compromising your ability to analyse both your environment and the position you are in, in this adversarial model, which you constructed. [00:30] brabo/fn XRevan86: that says exactly what it says, anything else is your mind ;) [00:30] brabo/fn phanes: blabla ;) [00:31] brabo/fn is that what you found? i am amazed! [00:31] phanes/fn your contributions to very many projects has been prolific, selfless, and impressive [00:31] brabo/fn which contributions? [00:31] brabo/fn i have never been prolific [00:31] brabo/fn way too lazy for that [00:32] XRevan86 brabo: Going beyond figuring out the direct nickname thing is also work. [00:32] XRevan86 But at least we established that. [00:33] phanes/fn well aside from unicore-mx and frosted i found a ton of repos across scattered gitlabs, github alternatives, and github itself with contributions by you using a number of email addresses, looks like you weren't really trying to tie it all together as one showcaseable work either. Not alot of devs work like that, for some its all resume padding. [00:33] brabo/fn XRevan86: that statement i do not understand [00:33] brabo/fn phanes: because i was not trying to make a resume. [00:33] phanes/fn I agree with that [00:33] phanes/fn and drew a similar conclusion [00:33] brabo/fn i do not need to. [00:33] XRevan86 brabo: The question dodged is whether ye knew phanes/fn goes by that nickname when reserving it on Libera. [00:33] phanes/fn he did [00:34] XRevan86 phanes: I don't need your answer to that. [00:34] phanes/fn he was banned several times prior to that by me for his trolling [00:34] brabo/fn XRevan86: do forgive me for not always spotting when you hilight me, the bridge makes the hilight fail. [00:34] brabo/fn and did i know? yes. i did. did i like the nick? yes, i did. did i impersonate him for regging and not using it? i did not. [00:34] phanes/fn sure ya did [00:34] XRevan86 Actually, the highlight should work regardless unless the client is picky about the circumstances. [00:35] phanes/fn it does [00:35] brabo/fn well, will you produce the proof of that phanes or will you just keep trumping your way through saying shit like rasengan did too? [00:35] phanes/fn you have misprofiled [00:35] brabo/fn seriously [00:35] brabo/fn show us [00:35] XRevan86 brabo: I hope ye don't like my nick. [00:35] brabo/fn show us when i impersonated you [00:36] brabo/fn if you have these logs, show em [00:36] MinceR well, irssi has a kind of highlight that only works if the term is the first word of the message [00:36] brabo/fn else, admit you don't [00:36] *inky (~inky@46.36.118.167) has joined #techrights [00:36] phanes/fn i am holding onto some cards but you would have had to in order to register the account [00:36] MinceR it also has one that works anywhere [00:36] XRevan86 MinceR: That *is* picky. [00:36] MinceR :> [00:36] brabo/fn MinceR yeah but i have it set to detecting it anywhere in the line [00:36] phanes/fn giving you an oportunity to try to pre-empt an exposure is not the path forward here [00:36] brabo/fn just these bridge messages, seems to fuck up somewhere [00:36] brabo/fn phanes: show the cards or admit you're lying [00:37] phanes/fn i think instead that my original course of action is unchanged without some compromise on your part. you tried to play rigid and aggressive and it was both expected and ineffective. [00:38] phanes/fn you can keep running make or you can fix the bug [00:38] brabo/fn phanes: so no proof to backup your claim of me using the nick phanes to impersonate you? how surprising! [00:38] brabo/fn i did not see that one coming! [00:38] XRevan86 Well, we do have confirmation that brabo totally did squat the nickname, the next thing to figure out if he actually used it. [00:38] phanes/fn this is not internet court [00:38] phanes/fn this is a negotiation you entered to prevent action on my part [00:38] brabo/fn XRevan86: oh i will admit to squatting it. while i was not (yet) using it. totally fair. [00:39] brabo/fn see? [00:39] phanes/fn i am not vulnerable or incfluenceable to this strategy [00:39] brabo/fn i can admit to things. but i did not impersonate you using the nick. [00:39] brabo/fn so you say i did [00:39] brabo/fn show us. [00:39] phanes/fn our negotiations have failed [00:39] brabo/fn or stfu [00:39] XRevan86 And back to phanes: did ye have to doxx him? Why was that necessary? Venegance? [00:40] brabo/fn phanes: we were not yet talking like grown ups cause you cannot admit you fucked up [00:40] brabo/fn XRevan86: he did not. he doxed an innocent unrelated person. [00:40] brabo/fn i mean, fucking low [00:40] brabo/fn and stoopid [00:40] phanes/fn XRevan86 - well it does provide options, but the intent is that when dealing with any "anonymous" aggressor, instead of fighting the anonymous alias you need to unmask their false persona or they will continue without a recourse in place to deter them. [00:41] phanes/fn i have some experience dealing with "brabos" [00:41] brabo/fn phanes: and i inform you: you failed and doxxed an inncocent not-even-bystander in the process [00:41] XRevan86 phanes: But if the transgression is a quantifiable "took the nick", just go to the PMs and then staff. [00:41] phanes/fn brabo, i dont believe that [00:41] brabo/fn phanes: then you are truly stupid [00:41] brabo/fn lol [00:41] brabo/fn but keep thinking i am this person [00:41] brabo/fn by all means [00:42] brabo/fn i don't mind. he should mind, and he'll know about this tomorrow too. [00:42] XRevan86 phanes: Like, for me to make my judgement I did not use any of that supposedly-them information. [00:42] phanes/fn XRevan86: Libera staff have ignored the issue because they're the ones who dropped the registration for the sole purpose of allowing him to do it [00:42] brabo/fn NO ONE dropped it [00:42] brabo/fn i was on libera 1 min after open and regged it [00:42] phanes/fn thank you for coming far enough to admit that [00:42] brabo/fn you weren't there, you had no time to be there and have it regged and go off [00:42] XRevan86 phanes: When did ye register it? [00:42] brabo/fn so stop [00:42] brabo/fn he did not [00:42] brabo/fn he's just spouting more lies [00:43] phanes/fn XRevan86 it was about a week after libera launched when i registered i think [00:43] brabo/fn he has 0 proof of any of his claims [00:43] phanes/fn i'd have to check logs tbh [00:43] brabo/fn he hasn't managed to produce 1 bit of proof [00:43] brabo/fn phanes: i regged it minutes after libera opened [00:43] brabo/fn so a week later? right! [00:43] phanes/fn in any case he's so caught up denying his intent that he's not realized he's admitted to the act, while still somehow trying to make the effort to address it as victimizing him [00:43] phanes/fn not a typical response indeed [00:44] brabo/fn your made up timelines are a bit fucked to be believable [00:44] brabo/fn i admit grabbing the nick [00:44] brabo/fn i object to you slandering me by claiming i used it to impersonate you [00:44] brabo/fn there is a difference you know, and if you were halfway intelligent you'd see the diff too [00:44] phanes/fn so, again, what i suggest is a transfer of ownership preceded by a little social cleanup on my part to smooth things over and let you grow from this [00:45] XRevan86 Ye do both realise that the nick registration date is public information? [00:45] brabo/fn and i suggest: apologize [00:45] phanes/fn i dont need your validation to be intelligent [00:45] XRevan86 phanes was registered on Libera on 2021-05-23 21:04:04 UTC [00:46] phanes/fn there we have it [00:46] brabo/fn yes, and? [00:46] XRevan86 4 days after brabo was registered. [00:46] brabo/fn oh did it even take me 4 days? [00:46] brabo/fn well, then it was 4 days [00:47] brabo/fn those 2 weeks was basically like 3 or 4 days all in all [00:47] *XRevan86_ (~root@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [00:47] brabo/fn so, forgive me for being off on how fast i grabbed it [00:47] brabo/fn it was unregged [00:47] *XRevan86_ (~root@meowr.ru) has left #techrights [00:48] brabo/fn i did not speak to any staff about dropping it [00:48] brabo/fn i took it, just like that [00:48] phanes/fn for full transparency, since i have nothing to hide, I've grepped for all the posts on freenode my client was aware of that involved the nick "brabo" in may: https://paste.silogroup.org/huyujazavo.apache [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.silogroup.org | hastebin [00:48] brabo/fn so the accusations of me asking staff to drop it to reg it, false. and i am honestly waiting on this holy promissed proof of me using it to impersonate this fellow :p [00:49] phanes/fn that should solidify establishing his malicious motive [00:49] brabo/fn all the posts on freenode? [00:49] phanes/fn the ones that my client saw [00:49] brabo/fn well most of them are on reddit since may [00:49] XRevan86 Well, that timeline actually adds up. [00:49] brabo/fn but how does this provide any proof about me impersonating you? :p [00:49] XRevan86 brabo did register roughly when Libera.Chat was announced. [00:49] XRevan86 and then it's just 4 days after that [00:50] phanes/fn i was on there like a week prior i think [00:50] XRevan86 > it was about a week after libera launched when i registered i think [00:50] brabo/fn tbh i don't think i even slept in those 4 days [00:50] brabo/fn thanks to the nice "saving" of freenode by the clown prince [00:50] phanes/fn in any case its proven the guy knew who i was [00:50] phanes/fn knew the identity existed and was established [00:50] brabo/fn i did not deny that [00:50] phanes/fn and was angry at the freenode staff [00:50] XRevan86 phanes: Yes, we've established that brabo totally did squat it. [00:50] brabo/fn but uhm, you are trying to build a case around 0 proof here [00:50] phanes/fn had been banned multiple times for his outbursts and displayed anger over it [00:50] brabo/fn when did i impersonate you? [00:51] phanes/fn don't need any, this is a negotiation [00:51] brabo/fn that was the slanderous accusation you made [00:51] brabo/fn to a fucking colleague of mine [00:51] XRevan86 phanes: But the "Libera staff dropped my nick" thing is not confirmed. [00:51] brabo/fn and you try to say i am aggro [00:51] XRevan86 brabo's story here is more consistent. [00:51] brabo/fn that was a hostile act [00:51] phanes/fn then perhaps you should consider that your behaviour has consequences and adjust it accordingly in the future after cleaning this up [00:51] brabo/fn where is the proof of your slander? [00:51] phanes/fn dont need any, this is a negotiation [00:51] XRevan86 Of course, instead of talking about solid points, we could just throw turds at each other. [00:52] brabo/fn this is not [00:52] brabo/fn XRevan86: and he did, and i want an apology if he wants to talk like adults [00:52] phanes/fn then you don't get what you want, bero [00:52] XRevan86 but could ye please go do that in -social or something? [00:52] brabo/fn phanes: hehe bero [00:52] brabo/fn this is simply too funny [00:52] phanes/fn you sound more angry than amused tbh [00:52] brabo/fn i told a friend today some lame ass was trying to dox me [00:53] brabo/fn his reaction: loud laughing "good luck" [00:53] phanes/fn yet here we are [00:53] brabo/fn k. who you mentioned doesn't know. he's a colleague ;) [00:53] phanes/fn see the problem with behaviour like this is it becomes serial [00:53] XRevan86 phanes: At least I got brabo to admit his lie, what about yours? [00:53] phanes/fn i have lied about nothing [00:53] phanes/fn i do not lie [00:54] brabo/fn XRevan86: my lie? the misremembering of the date i regged the nick? i never denied squatting it either. [00:54] XRevan86 phanes: brabo registered the nick just 4 days after the announcement of Libera. [00:54] brabo/fn i said i regged it because i wanted it [00:54] brabo/fn which is true [00:54] XRevan86 brabo: Ye did deny squatting it. Ye said ye just liked it, all innocent-like. [00:55] brabo/fn i did not deny it [00:55] brabo/fn i said i wanted it [00:55] brabo/fn which is and was true [00:55] brabo/fn you can all fill in motivations and intent, and assume things [00:55] XRevan86 ye made people believe ye're just an uninvolved person [00:55] phanes/fn im not lying, i at one point had registerd both the bagira nick and the phanes nick on libera to prevent this scenario [00:55] phanes/fn because i knew the kind of people i was dealing with [00:55] brabo/fn to outright lay false accusations at ones colleague based on your own internalization of those though? naah. [00:56] phanes/fn what i didn't expect was for the libera staff to be involved in assisting [00:56] XRevan86 phanes: When? [00:56] phanes/fn it would have had to have been before that chronologically [00:56] XRevan86 phanes: Maybe ye have the registration letter? [00:57] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:57] brabo/fn XRevan86: if anyone wants any full no secrets disclosure, i'll give it in a heartbeat. but the history is not the issue here. the issue is him not even bothering to talk to me, contacting a colleague on linkedin making false accusations, and naming an unrelated person as me and fishing for confirmation. [00:57] brabo/fn that is just not ok. [00:57] brabo/fn me squatting a nick? hey, grow up. this is the internet. [00:57] phanes/fn i believe it was on 5/19 but i can't find the letter, i might have used a throwaway email on that [00:58] *inky (~inky@46.36.118.167) has joined #techrights [00:58] XRevan86 a throwaway email? that might just be reason enough to drop it [00:58] brabo/fn phanes: well, then you have nothing to back that up. now maybe backup your impersonating accusation? [00:58] phanes/fn nope, not internet court; if you get what you want it's through giving what i want. [00:59] brabo/fn ok people: let's get this straight: this guy is willing to contact colleagues to make accusations but when asked publicly to back those up, he won't [00:59] brabo/fn i SO believe this guy right here, incredible! [00:59] phanes/fn i dont rely on the opinions of others or defer to external judgment on things, i form my own beliefs based what i observe and work from that. ● Jul 19 [01:00] phanes/fn it serves me well and i have no intention of changing that [01:00] *XRevan86 doesn't know how that's even relevant. [01:00] MinceR there was some talk of manually dropping accounts using "temporary" e-mail accounts on libera [01:00] brabo/fn phanes: saying that almost makes it sound like you are a reasonable person who can also show proof claimed to be there when asked [01:00] phanes/fn don't care [01:00] phanes/fn want it? buy it. [01:01] brabo/fn buy proof of me impersonating you to then show it? naah. your refusal and reaction make it clear there was no proof to begin with ;) [01:01] brabo/fn thank you for playing [01:01] XRevan86 MinceR: I can believe that. When I heard that, I immediately saw that as a possibility. [01:01] phanes/fn let's move this to PM. We've bugged these people enough and I got what I needed from drawing you here with this. [01:01] brabo/fn phanes: pm? [01:01] brabo/fn well [01:01] phanes/fn sure [01:01] brabo/fn apologize [01:01] phanes/fn want it? buy it. [01:02] brabo/fn audience, thank you for watching this show of: how can i dig a hole for myself to fall into. see you next installment! [01:02] XRevan86 But people like phanes don't take responsibility for their own actions, it's someone else who's to blame for that one's account was dropped. Proof? They have motive or something! [01:03] phanes/fn he's already admitted to doing it and with malicious intent [01:03] brabo/fn XRevan86: i actually have a lot more of an issue with the contacting a colleague with fasle accusations part. [01:03] XRevan86 And brabo squatted a nickname, acted in bad faith, and just refuses to own up to it. Could say the same. [01:03] phanes/fn i dont need popular opinion on this either [01:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.55 swarm size (avg): 286.01 [01:04] brabo/fn XRevan86: refused to own up to what? seriously, i have not been dishonest. i did not use any "evidence" i did not produce. [01:04] XRevan86 And now these two arrogant persons are having a fight to death. [01:04] phanes/fn no i dont do those [01:05] phanes/fn too much energy [01:05] XRevan86 figuratively speaking [01:05] brabo/fn XRevan86: seriously? contacting a coworker.. this is not arrogance talking. this is self defence. [01:05] phanes/fn im sorry that your anonymous reputation manipulation resulted in blowback [01:05] brabo/fn if you have loonies spouting lies to everyone around you, how do you think your life is going to go? [01:06] phanes/fn i dont think they're lies [01:06] XRevan86 brabo: phanes is like a bulldoser, but retribution in general ye had coming. [01:06] brabo/fn you don't think, earlier you had proof. which one is it, really? :p [01:07] phanes/fn this is not internet court [01:07] brabo/fn so you can only say things you know to not be true, and then cannot back it up because they weren't true? [01:07] phanes/fn that's a dumber, more convenient narrative than our current situation but i understand that it's all you have to work with [01:07] XRevan86 brabo: Ye did mess with phanes, and the only argument here is whether he responded to the provocation appropriately. [01:08] brabo/fn phanes: if that is all you give us.. [01:08] phanes/fn im not terribly concerned about that because it is an ongoing problem [01:08] brabo/fn XRevan86: no, that is not the argument at all actually ;) [01:08] XRevan86 phanes: I do want to see that registration email. [01:09] phanes/fn i dont really care [01:09] phanes/fn my terms are simple [01:09] brabo/fn XRevan86: and i want to see proof of me impersonating him. that was the slanderous accusation he made towards a colleague of mine [01:09] phanes/fn my solutions are rewarding and meet demand [01:09] XRevan86 phanes: No wonder ye have so many friends. [01:09] phanes/fn im not here to make friends [01:10] brabo/fn pity on you. i am everywhere to make friends [01:10] phanes/fn oh clearly [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:10] phanes/fn CLEARLY this man is a social extravert [01:10] phanes/fn ROFL [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] brabo/fn yes, clearly if you do what you did, you will get the happy friendly reception [01:10] phanes/fn im sorry man, its rude to laugh at you like that, but WTF why do you think that about yourself [01:11] XRevan86 I will not discuss this any further, I doubt anyone else will either, so feel free to move this to private messages. [01:11] brabo/fn because if people do not do shit to piss me off, i am that ;) [01:11] brabo/fn but you did [01:11] phanes/fn i have offered that many times; also i apologize again for hijacking your channel with this [01:11] XRevan86 Ye are both aggressive and annoying, no one cares. [01:11] brabo/fn he had all the chances to PM me before doing what he did [01:12] brabo/fn public apology or game on [01:12] XRevan86 -social is also publicly logged, go there. [01:12] XRevan86 #boycottnovell-social [01:12] phanes/fn buy it or leave it, im going to go do something more important now [01:12] phanes/fn make sure and get the last word so it looks like you didn't back down [01:13] XRevan86 Why did I make an effort to understand the situation? [01:14] XRevan86 That was not rewarded at all. [01:14] brabo/fn XRevan86: you could also try to not skip the core of it :p [01:16] XRevan86 brabo: The core of it is that ye both did something to upset each other. [01:17] phanes/fn if the dude just gives my nick back i'll let it go [01:18] XRevan86 phanes: The dude is upset with how ye brought his coworker into all this and wants an apology. [01:18] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [01:18] phanes/fn he's gonna be even more upset when realizes that this isn't the final destination for these kinds of unmaskings then [01:19] phanes/fn particularly when he realizes there is no meaningful recourse [01:19] XRevan86 phanes: That's a bit too much for just reserving your nick. [01:19] phanes/fn Then perhaps he should rethink his position. [01:19] XRevan86 phanes: Your allegations that he used it have not been confirmed at all. [01:19] brabo/fn XRevan86: and i simply saying: after going there, i want an apology. or show the proof of your accusation. [01:20] brabo/fn and indeed not, cause like trump, he has proof! he's sooper dooper cereal! [01:20] XRevan86 phanes: Nor that he was in cahoots with the staff to obtain it. [01:20] brabo/fn but showing it now would be inconvenient [01:23] *inky (~inky@46.36.118.167) has joined #techrights [01:23] brabo/fn XRevan86: and having a disagreement online, it happens. if he'd have contacted me and talked to me, anything positive could have happened. he did not. he went there, not contacting me, no intent of contacting me, but laying false accusations about me, and fishing for confirmation that what his botched dox job gave him was correct, to a coworker [01:23] brabo/fn i say: me being upset about that is fair [01:24] XRevan86 brabo: Right, I understand that point. [01:24] phanes/fn i suspect you'll die mad about it without a concession on your part [01:24] phanes/fn (hopefully very old) [01:24] brabo/fn phanes: it is super cute how you imagine yourself that important [01:24] phanes/fn who said i was important [01:24] brabo/fn also telling [01:25] XRevan86 It does look like phanes cannot back up his words. [01:25] *phanes/fn shrugs [01:25] phanes/fn stay tuned [01:25] XRevan86 "don't care" is not that. [01:26] brabo/fn XRevan86: and thus confirming my position of desiring an apology before we can talk as adults [01:26] brabo/fn he fucked up [01:26] brabo/fn and, in a serious way too [01:26] phanes/fn yes i totally fucked up by not apologizing to you when you stepped in my bear trap [01:26] brabo/fn you totally fucked up by your own actions earlier [01:26] brabo/fn and your false accusations [01:27] phanes/fn they aren't false accusations and i have only done introductory work on this [01:27] brabo/fn i understand that you really have no shame [01:27] brabo/fn but please, don't make that anyone elses problem [01:27] phanes/fn this is a path not a destination [01:27] brabo/fn blabla [01:27] phanes/fn and you have the steering wheel [01:27] XRevan86 phanes: Why is it hard to back up the "brabo used the phanes nickname to impersonate me" thing? [01:28] XRevan86 if ye have reasons to believe that, present them [01:28] phanes/fn XRevan86 I've gotta go collect logs [01:28] brabo/fn it is hard, because there is 0 proof [01:28] XRevan86 go do that then, I'll wait [01:28] phanes/fn I'm sorry why do you think I need to prove anything to you [01:28] brabo/fn he published something https://linux.silogroup.org/ [01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.silogroup.org | surro-linux Official blog of SURRO Linux [01:28] brabo/fn that someone was using nick bagira to impersonate him [01:28] brabo/fn but i do not have the reg for bagira [01:28] brabo/fn only for phanes [01:28] brabo/fn which i did not use [01:28] brabo/fn he is conflating things [01:29] phanes/fn that is actually accurate I do need to fix the nick in the blog post [01:29] brabo/fn and thinking i am the imposter, and that i am this unrelated person, etc [01:29] brabo/fn phanes: ah right [01:29] brabo/fn you so fucked up that blog post on your projects site [01:29] brabo/fn right [01:29] brabo/fn may 30th [01:29] brabo/fn you were already confused, and it was so important people were aware.. [01:30] XRevan86 "bagira" is a solo account registered on 2021-05-19 23:47:25 UTC [01:30] brabo/fn i know it was regged before i regged phanes [01:30] brabo/fn yes, i checked it [01:31] brabo/fn and the nicks i did reg, i did for squatting [01:31] brabo/fn not for using them [01:31] brabo/fn or impersonating them [01:31] brabo/fn you can give me all the flak you want for that [01:31] brabo/fn but i did not impersonate anyone [01:31] brabo/fn and phanes knows i did not [01:31] brabo/fn he just wants the nick [01:31] phanes/fn post updated to reflect accuracy [01:32] brabo/fn and goes about it very aggressively [01:32] brabo/fn and gets a response to that. surprise surprise. [01:33] phanes/fn annnnnnyway i said i was going to drop it in here, and then didn't. you know what my purchase price is. don't wait to see if you can take the heat, there's a point of no return for these kinds of things. [01:33] *phanes/fn tootles out [01:33] brabo/fn It has been brought to my attention that someone on the Libera network is impersonating me on Libera.Chat using the nick bagira. [01:34] XRevan86 Can we put that conversation on hold until phanes collects The Logs? [01:34] XRevan86 I'll go to sleep, good night. [01:34] brabo/fn phanes: purchase price. that statement is priceless. i ask for an apology for a very real transgression. you say you have proof what you said was true, but inconvenient to produce. and then you keep saying "buy" "my purchase price". rich. hilarious. [01:41] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [01:45] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [01:49] brabo/fn i just realize the irony of destroying manufactured realities on IRC in relation to this nonsensical blabla from phanes in response to my concerns about his acts! ● Jul 19 [02:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 34.50 swarm size (avg): 286.03 [02:17] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [02:18] *activelow (~activelow@p27wcf5sipg4i.irc) has joined #techrights [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180721.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180721.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, July 18, 2021 [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[03:31] *bradchaus (~bchadwick@4pjad2wvr9yr4.irc) has joined #techrights [03:50] brabo/fn . [03:51] brabo/fn huh, the /topic for #brabo on leenode is set to: "Identity reveal for Brabo" [03:51] brabo/fn keep trying i say [03:51] Ariadne what does any of this shit have to do with techrights ? [03:52] phobos/fn nothing [03:53] brabo/fn the only connection is that here, publicly, phanes/bagira inquired about me, after a failed attempt to contact a coworker of mine trying to falsely accuse me, and faultily trying to dox me [03:54] brabo/fn he chose the venue [03:54] phobos/fn so... it has nothing to do to with #techrights [03:54] brabo/fn ask phanes [03:55] brabo/fn i did not choose this venue [03:55] phobos/fn Ariadne asked you. You haven't been able to provide any explanation why your ramblings belong here. Perhaps ##arguments would be a better place [03:55] brabo/fn if you grep, he said things when he was still going as "Dad" [03:55] Ariadne the question was directed at both you and phanes [03:56] brabo/fn i have stated my purpose long ago [03:56] Ariadne your purpose of having this here? [03:56] Ariadne it takes two to tango. tango somewhere else [03:56] brabo/fn i hear you. and i am not the one who chose to tango here. [03:57] Ariadne you choose to respond to it [03:57] brabo/fn would you not? [03:57] brabo/fn all things being equal? [03:58] Ariadne no, i would not. that's the thing about trolling, they only have power if you let them [03:58] brabo/fn and if everyone ignores the troll and not call them out for what they are, what happens? [03:59] brabo/fn kum ut troll. kum ut unt die. [03:59] Ariadne maybe we should turn the bridge off [03:59] brabo/fn or maybe moderation, done properly, would help. just sayin' ● Jul 19 [04:00] Ariadne if it were up to me, i would ban both of you :) [04:01] brabo/fn i won't say that'sd be an unfair judgement. i do say, me speaking out, i can, i do not have to fear repercussions. [04:03] *isak (~isak@wk8nad45q6kek.irc) has joined #techrights [04:04] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.60 swarm size (avg): 286.08 [04:09] phanes/fn I don't answer to you Ariadne. [04:09] Ariadne nobody cares who you answer to [04:09] phanes/fn [Ariadne/tr] the question was directed at both you and phanes [04:10] phanes/fn Flex denied, choke on your dinner. [04:10] Ariadne man, i cannot wait until all of this is decomissioned [04:43] AdmFubar https://www.accessnow.org/indian-government-nso-pegasus-spyware/ [04:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Democracy under attack: Indian governments alleged abuse of NSO Pegasus spyware - Access Now ● Jul 19 [05:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.16 swarm size (avg): 286.07 [05:15] techrights-news Another persons interpretation of Valves strategy and motivations/ambitions A Longtime Readers Thoughts About Valve and Steamdeck (and What That Means to GNU/Linux) http://techrights.org/2021/07/18/steamdeck/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/18/steamdeck/ [05:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Longtime Readers Thoughts About Valve and Steamdeck (and What That Means to GNU/Linux) | Techrights [05:16] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, July 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [05:17] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:31] techrights-news #Linux 5.14-rc2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153517 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc2 | Tux Machines [05:44] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153518 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [05:45] techrights-news #Systemd Has Never Been An Init System https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txg6JvqMjfk #kernel #linux #ibm #redhat [05:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Systemd Has Never Been An Init System - YouTube [05:46] techrights-news "Xargs is an important shell utility to know because it allows you to execute to pass standard input as an argument to another command. While many command line programs allow standard input to be used as a parameter (things like grep..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp7jLi_kgPg [05:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xargs Should Be In Your Command Line Toolbag - YouTube [05:46] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/07/19/mass_misuse_of_nso_pegasus_spyware_alleged/ [05:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Amnesty International and French media protection org claim massive misuse of NSO spyware The Register [05:48] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:51] techrights-news WARP-V: A #RISCV CPU Core Generator Supporting MIPS ISA - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/07/19/warp-v-a-risc-v-cpu-core-generator-supporting-mips-isa/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [05:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | WARP-V: A RISC-V CPU Core Generator Supporting MIPS ISA - CNX Software [05:58] techrights-news This Week In Tok: New Features And UI Improvements And Janet Got Tired Of Writing A Cool Title For Every Weekly-ish Post http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153519 [05:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Week In Tok: New Features And UI Improvements And Janet Got Tired Of Writing A Cool Title For Every Weekly-ish Post | Tux Machines [05:58] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 19 [06:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 53.46 swarm size (avg): 286.04 [06:04] techrights-news Videos/Shows: Open Source Security, Xargs, and Systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153520 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [06:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: Open Source Security, Xargs, and Systemd | Tux Machines [06:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [06:05] techrights-news #RISCV #Hardware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153521 #TuxMachines [06:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:06] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/07/tax-cuts-wsj/ [06:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WSJ likes more money in taxpayers hands only when theyre wealthy hands - Alternet.org [06:07] techrights-news Review: #rlxos 2106 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153522 [06:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: rlxos 2106 | Tux Machines [06:08] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/07/forthcoming-book-highlights-the-hoary-tradition-of-outfoxing-history/ [06:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New books highlight how Zuckerberg and Trump align with the 'hoary tradition' of 'outfoxing history' - Alternet.org [06:09] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/07/gop-2653811907/ [06:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The GOP has become the death wish party - Alternet.org [06:09] techrights-news Latest on Steam Games and SteamOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153479#comment-30312 [06:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck and Netflix | Tux Machines [06:11] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/07/extreme-heat-wave/ [06:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Extreme heat waves are putting lakes and rivers at risk - Alternet.org [06:12] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/07/refused-vaccine-died/ [06:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Texas man who called vaccines 'poison' dies from COVID-19 after spending 17 days on a ventilator - Alternet.org [06:12] techrights-news #Security and Proprietary Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153523 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines [06:14] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [06:14] techrights-news #Linux Plumbers Conference: #GNU Tools Track Added to Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 https://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/blog/2021/index.php/2021/07/18/gnu-tools-track-added-to-linux-plumbers-conference-2021/ [06:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplumbersconf.org | GNU Tools Track Added to Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 Linux Plumbers Conference 2021 [06:20] techrights-news #Overpopulation bill in #india https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/07/19/bbi-kenyan-supreme-court-u-p-population-bill-south-africa-suli-deals-it-rules-2021-sedition-law-and-danish-siddiquis-death/ [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | BBI Kenyan Supreme Court, U.P. Population Bill, South Africa, Suli Deals, IT rules 2021, Sedition Law and Danish Siddiquis death. Experiences in the community [06:20] techrights-news GNU #Binutils 2.37 has been released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153524 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Binutils 2.37 has been released | Tux Machines [06:21] techrights-news "Its hard to believe, but we are now half-way through Google Summer of Code. Wow, does time fly. 6 weeks ago Kalendar let you view events from your local and online accounts now, it does a lot more than that!" https://claudiocambra.com/2021/07/18/bzzt-your-12-oclock-is-next-on-your-schedule-kalendar-week-6-gsoc-2021/ [06:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-claudiocambra.com | *BZZT* Your 12 oclock is next on your schedule Kalendar week 6 (GSoC 2021) Claudio Cambra [06:43] techrights-news Links 19/7/2021: Linux 5.14 RC2 and GNU Binutils 2.37 http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/gnu-binutils-2-37/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/gnu-binutils-2-37/ [06:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/7/2021: Linux 5.14 RC2 and GNU Binutils 2.37 | Techrights [06:44] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153525 [06:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [06:59] techrights-news #Devuan 4.0-alpha is out https://www.devuan.org/ #gnu #linux [06:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Welcome to devuan.org | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System ● Jul 19 [07:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.20 swarm size (avg): 286.03 [07:04] techrights-news ROCK 3A SBC brings M.2 slots for NVMe SSD, WiFi 6 to Raspberry Pi form factor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153526 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROCK 3A SBC brings M.2 slots for NVMe SSD, WiFi 6 to Raspberry Pi form factor | Tux Machines [07:07] techrights-news Theresa May: Brexit means Brexit. Borisnaro: COVID means COVID. Coming soon: quarter million infections a day. [07:10] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153527 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:12] techrights-news Why does this #Maine legislator use Linux? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubOjujvDiFg [07:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why does this Maine legislator use Linux? - YouTube [07:12] liberty_box/fn https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57881979 [07:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Horse racing: Thousands of racehorses killed in slaughterhouses - BBC News [07:20] techrights-news Ultra App Kit 1.1 Released As New Cross-Platform UI Toolkit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153528 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ultra App Kit 1.1 Released As New Cross-Platform UI Toolkit | Tux Machines [07:21] techrights-news Open Source Video Transcoder HandBrake Releases Version 1.4.0, Supports 10 & 12 Bit Encoding Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153529 [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Video Transcoder HandBrake Releases Version 1.4.0, Supports 10 & 12 Bit Encoding Now | Tux Machines [07:24] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153530 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:58] techrights-news NEWS #InfoSecHandbook We update our content and website https://infosec-handbook.eu/news/2021-07-18-ish-updates/ [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-infosec-handbook.eu | We update our content and website InfoSec Handbook your friendly and open-minded InfoSec community [07:59] techrights-news NEWS #FreeBSD #BSD A Look at Profiling: FreeBSD Sort https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/a-look-at-profiling-freebsd-sort/ [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freebsdfoundation.org | A Look at Profiling: FreeBSD Sort | FreeBSD Foundation [07:59] techrights-news NEWS #IProgrammer #OpenHardware A Low Cost Hackable Watch https://www.i-programmer.info/news/83-mobliephone/14726-a-low-cost-hackable-watch.html [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | A Low Cost Hackable Watch ● Jul 19 [08:00] techrights-news NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Science European Research Council bans journal impact factor from bids https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/european-research-council-bans-journal-impact-factor-bids [08:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | European Research Council bans journal impact factor from bids | Times Higher Education (THE) [08:01] techrights-news NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Education MIT digital learning dean quits as #edX sale backlash grows https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/mit-digital-learning-dean-quits-edx-sale-backlash-grows [08:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | MIT digital learning dean quits as edX sale backlash grows | Times Higher Education (THE) [08:02] techrights-news NEWS #NCCGroupResearch #ProprietarySoftware Detecting and Hunting for the Malicious #NetFilter Driver https://research.nccgroup.com/2021/07/16/detecting-and-hunting-for-the-malicious-netfilter-driver/ [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-research.nccgroup.com | Detecting and Hunting for the Malicious NetFilter Driver NCC Group Research [08:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.76 swarm size (avg): 286.02 [08:04] techrights-news NEWS #BBC #Surveillance #Privacy Pegasus: Spyware sold to governments 'targets activists' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57881364 [08:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Pegasus: Spyware sold to governments 'targets activists' - BBC News [08:04] techrights-news NEWS #Vox #Surveillance #Privacy From Macys to Ace Hardware, #facialrecognition is already everywhere https://www.vox.com/2021/7/15/22577876/macys-ace-hardware-fight-for-the-future-facial-recognition-artificial-intelligence-stores [08:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-From Macys to Ace Hardware, facial recognition is already everywhere - Vox [08:19] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Developer on Twitch Creates Neat Tool to Prevent #DMCA Notices https://torrentfreak.com/developer-on-twitch-creates-neat-tool-to-prevent-dmca-notices-210718/ [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Developer on Twitch Creates Neat Tool to Prevent DMCA Notices * TorrentFreak [08:20] techrights-news "Hey, I made a gemini chatroom if anyone wants to check it out! It's very simple right now and just stores messages in a file and reads the file. Heres the link" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006936.html [08:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini chatroom [08:21] *aggi has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:23] *danielinux has quit (Changing host) [08:23] *danielinux (sbnc@wolfssl/developer/danielinux) has joined #techrights [08:24] techrights-news I have just testing this and it works. With 'ii' I could probably build an IRC client over gemini:// in a few hours https://git.sr.ht/~ysu/gemini-chatroom [08:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.sr.ht | ~ysu/gemini-chatroom - sourcehut git [08:25] techrights-news Logging format for Gemini servers https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006937.html [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Logging format for Gemini servers [08:25] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Surveillance #Privacy Data Leak Exposes Global Surveillance Plot Targeting Journalists and Dissidents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/18/data-leak-exposes-global-surveillance-plot-targeting-journalists-and-dissidents [08:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Data Leak Exposes Global Surveillance Plot Targeting Journalists and Dissidents | Common Dreams News [08:27] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/irc-log-180721/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/irc-log-180721/ [08:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, July 18, 2021 | Techrights [08:33] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:35] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [08:35] techrights-news "I had a chance to sit down with Maine State Representative Grayson Lookner, representing Maine's 37th legislative district." https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxGamer:f/grayson:f [08:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Why does this Maine legislator use Linux? ● Jul 19 [09:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 50.16 swarm size (avg): 285.96 [09:10] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@p82f9yc4ghq5c.irc) has joined #techrights [09:10] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [10:11] techrights-news "I keep hitting this over and over throughout my career, which started in the 90s." http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/07/16/1827228#1157422 [10:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Google Engineer Who Criticized Company in Viral Comics on Why He Finally Quit - SoylentNews [10:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:12] techrights-news "Imagine now a cashless society, and one where all such sales data were linked together: total information on every individual." @glynmoody https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/106596561824980656 [10:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "The check-out - https://glanglish.blogspot.com/20" - Mastodon [10:13] techrights-news At least some in the LGBT world recognise that not tolerating the intolerant is necessary https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/07/14/taliban-afghanistan-gay/ [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pinknews.co.uk | Taliban judge suggests gay men will face death [10:14] techrights-news Virginity tests to be banned over risk of honour killings https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/virginity-tests-to-be-banned-over-risk-of-honour-killings-05b8wc5b2 [10:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Virginity tests to be banned over risk of honour killings | News | The Times [10:15] techrights-news All religions can be criticised. Violence should not end this. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/19/kurt-westergaard-danish-cartoonist-muhammad-cartoon-dies-aged-86 [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Kurt Westergaard, Danish cartoonist behind Muhammad cartoon, dies aged 86 | Denmark | The Guardian [10:16] techrights-news #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ... even #windows fanatics are upset https://www.thurrott.com/windows/253366/microsofts-printing-nightmare-continues [10:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/windows/253366/microsofts-printing-nightmare-continues ) [10:16] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/surgeon-general-murthy-deeply-concerned-unvaccinated-covid-1198773/ [10:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Murthy: 'Deeply Concerned' About Dangers Posed By Unvaccinated Adults - Rolling Stone [10:18] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia = NOT a place to get informed https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/17/22581683/facebook-biden-remarks-covid-19-vaccine-misinformation [10:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook pushes back against Biden remarks on COVID-19 misinformation - The Verge [10:19] techrights-news LOL. "Support the Guardian". They want people to DONATE to them while they take MILLIONS from this guy (to do #reputationlaundering for him) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [10:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [10:25] techrights-news Seems like someone is falsely reporting me to Twitter (again?), based on an email sent to me. #socialcontrolmedia is a waste of time... most of the time. [10:26] schestowitz someone reported me as suicidal :-) [10:26] schestowitz To Twitter [10:26] schestowitz No idea what it's about [10:26] schestowitz as I'm happy as ever [10:26] schestowitz so I deduce it might be a troll or concern troll [10:27] schestowitz Ariadne: the quality of Twitter is going downhill [10:32] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia is devolving more and more into the #socialcontrol aspects of such platforms. These are no longer places to post but for powerful people to herd "the masses". Treat them accordingly. [10:34] Ariadne its okay schestowitz [10:34] Ariadne call for help [10:34] Ariadne at least all they do is send an email [10:34] Ariadne instead of sending cops to your house [10:34] schestowitz but still [10:35] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [10:35] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:35] schestowitz it is a false positive [10:35] Ariadne true [10:35] Ariadne well [10:35] schestowitz I am guessing they did this because some people in the past moaned about suicides with preceding signs [10:35] Ariadne i have had friends where it wasn ot a false positive [10:35] Ariadne and people sent cops [10:35] Ariadne to their house [10:35] schestowitz in the US it ends in shootings sometimes [10:35] Ariadne i feel like sending cops [10:36] Ariadne to a suicidal person's house [10:36] Ariadne is not helpful [10:36] schestowitz but in the UK, I can think of no such stories [10:36] schestowitz the cops they send here are peace officers,. unarmed [10:37] schestowitz maybe because I mentioned overpopulation? [10:37] schestowitz or maybe ranted about UPC? [10:43] activelow sadly the influence of social control media cannot be avoided, never registered with any except a facebook test account more than 10years ago which wasn't used ever [10:43] schestowitz I am doing a post about http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/ [10:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | Techrights [10:45] activelow even after de-registration with confirmation mail 10 years ago facebook is sending emails with contact requests, didn't touch this in over a decade and still am being annoyed [10:47] activelow and politics prominently discuss politicians being harassed there, instead of questioning such social control media couldn't at least operate in compliance with constitution (privacy of post and telecommunications, illegal mass surveillance) [10:52] schestowitz it's turned into "hey hi" [10:53] schestowitz wherein population control (mind/mental) is done by programs [10:53] schestowitz like they already do stock markets [10:53] schestowitz in some cases, the miscalculations lead to discrimination [10:53] schestowitz but they really don't care [10:53] schestowitz we're just statistics to them [10:54] activelow "garbage in garbage out" [10:54] schestowitz you cannot even appeal twitter decisions, as Ariadne found out yesterday [10:54] schestowitz they say "delete" [10:54] schestowitz ant they are are sort of blackmailing to delete [10:54] Ariadne its ok [10:54] schestowitz like the authorities in china do when you post "bad" things [10:54] Ariadne Pleroma is gonna get a huge boost [10:55] schestowitz I hope so [10:55] Ariadne i'm going to add the ability to Pleroma to link your twitter and use it as a twitter client [10:55] schestowitz with pleroma it is easier to isolate garbage [10:55] schestowitz not bad, isolate [10:55] Ariadne thus silently migrating your twitter friends over to fediverse [10:55] schestowitz *not ban [10:56] schestowitz like,if you are not interested in some king of 'community' [10:56] Ariadne in the same way we silently migrated the users off freenode [10:57] schestowitz like,if you are not interested in some king of 'community'*kind [10:57] schestowitz this keyboard is still awful 2 weeks down the line [10:59] activelow anyway, recently political debate focused on harassement, with the intention to justify illegal mass surveillance ● Jul 19 [11:01] activelow and although i deny any participation with social control media their toxic influence prevails: such as when harassements are cited this portrays men as aggressive offenders in general, even those who reject facebook for example, and mass surveillance affecting those too who deny to participate in social control media entirely [11:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.66 swarm size (avg): 285.93 [11:04] schestowitz if everybody was passive in it, the harm would be curtailed [11:04] schestowitz and, in fact, more people would go back to blogging [11:09] activelow doubt it, at least in german politics the debate is framed as if the rubbish posted on facebook and twitter was the relevant representation of the population almost exclusively [11:09] kingoffrance "someone reported me as suicidal" lol. not at you, or them, or that its funny, but yeah it is trolls like people who try to send swat team to someones house [11:10] kingoffrance ppl wont believe it until they bump into one [11:10] kingoffrance such psychopaths do exist [11:10] kingoffrance likely projection [11:11] kingoffrance i assure you, i've met them in real life :) [11:12] schestowitz There should be severe penalties for that [11:12] kingoffrance i am speculating, but i totally believe it is what i mean [11:13] kingoffrance type of gaslighting even [11:13] kingoffrance just means you are doing good reporting :) [11:13] kingoffrance somebodies feathers are ruffled :) [11:13] kingoffrance *body's [11:16] schestowitz twitter needs to check [11:17] schestowitz if it's empty and baseless [11:17] schestowitz I cannot think of what culd trigger it [11:17] schestowitz *could [11:21] kingoffrance its attempt at character assasinatino is my bet [11:21] kingoffrance just like telling everyone they are "autistic" etc. [11:21] kingoffrance you had a link a few months ago [11:23] schestowitz I've just shown this to the wife and she says it's probably a suicidal erson reportingh me , i.e. projectiobn [11:24] schestowitz about "autistic", people who boosted Microsoft tried it pon me ages ago [11:24] schestowitz it's getting harder for them to do if you produce videos and stuff [11:24] schestowitz RMS foolishly penned an apology [11:24] schestowitz to people who just want him to disappaear [11:24] schestowitz as if they would be understanding and then leave him alone [11:24] schestowitz it was an own goal [11:24] kingoffrance well, it sucks, but thats what they want yes, to make ppl disappear [11:25] schestowitz this false report of suicidalness is new to me [11:25] schestowitz it's different from death threats/wishes [11:25] schestowitz which I got plenty of [11:25] schestowitz maybe that can affect the targets's credit scoe or somethinhg, not sure... [11:26] schestowitz about 17 years ago people stole my name and posted about how I supposed had gender-changed [11:26] schestowitz and then provoked me using those fake posts [11:26] schestowitz then used my reaction to those forgeries to paint me as rude [11:27] activelow documents of mine had been tampered with, records falsified, not social control media in this case, public institutions it was [11:27] activelow including threats of incarceration by officials from munich [11:28] schestowitz speaking of munich, [11:29] schestowitz wanna proof-read my article? [11:29] schestowitz covers munich [11:30] activelow read it already [11:30] schestowitz re the transgender libel, they knew I was very low-tempered and thick-skinned [11:30] schestowitz so they used a combination of libel and identity theft [11:30] schestowitz activelow: no, a new one [11:30] schestowitz draft: http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/decapitating-movements/ [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Monopolies Cannot Decapitate a Movement | Techrights [11:30] activelow looking forward to it schestowitz [11:31] schestowitz published for typos catching, suggestions [11:38] activelow couldn't spot any typo yet [11:39] schestowitz thanks, I found one [11:39] techrights-news Monopolies Cannot Decapitate a Movement http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/decapitating-movements/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/decapitating-movements/ [11:40] schestowitz we have an article coming from a former Softer [11:40] schestowitz about how Microsoft is a national security threat [11:41] schestowitz dog barking outside, cannot record [11:41] schestowitz shut windows not an option in heatwave [11:42] techrights-news #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: July 18th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153531 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: July 18th, 2021 | Tux Machines [11:43] techrights-news #HandBrake 1.4 Open-Source Video Transcoder Adds Support for Native 10- and 12-Bit Encodes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153532 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HandBrake 1.4 Open-Source Video Transcoder Adds Support for Native 10- and 12-Bit Encodes | Tux Machines ● Jul 19 [12:10] techrights-news Struggling to write and make videos in this kind of weather... [12:12] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [12:14] techrights-news "A well-deserved rant against the current state of the Web, well-written and with many fine points we will all agree with. But the conclusion will surprise many of you: instead of Gemini, he suggests PDF." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006940.html [12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Deurbanising the Web [12:15] techrights-news Place your bets, ladies and gents. How many dead people today due to Borisnaro policies? I reckon 70k new #covvd19 cases/day by Friday... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/18/the-united-kingdom-lacks-responsible-leadership/ [12:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The United Kingdom Lacks Responsible Leadership [12:19] techrights-news Despite the theft or the mass plunder of projects (e.g. #GitHub takeover), even at the expense of billions of dollars (with ongoing losses, both financial and logistical), we keep coming back again and again like a hydra http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/decapitating-movements/ [12:23] techrights-news #UPC threatens all of them. https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144560/Smaller-Pharma-Firms-Boost-EU-Innovation-Presence [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144560/Smaller-Pharma-Firms-Boost-EU-Innovation-Presence ) [12:25] techrights-news #SoftwarePatents pushed using buzzwords and unadulterated garbage https://www.bananaip.com/ip-news-center/ai-inventions-and-patents/ #heyHi #swpats [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AI Inventions and Patents | BananaIP Counsels [12:26] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/carpmaels-ransford-sued-for-missed.html?showComment=1626638213001#c5375878804288753484 [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Carpmaels & Ransford sued for missed appeal deadline - The IPKat [12:26] schestowitz "I totally agree. It must have been unbearably stressful for those involved in both the human error (docketing) and the negligence case. After 30 odd years in the job I question the sanity of any private practice attorney who says they are not burnt out. Those involved have all my sympathy and more. I hope the damages award is negligible. ' [12:27] techrights-news "After 30 odd years in the job I question the sanity of any private practice attorney who says they are not burnt out. Those involved have all my sympathy and more. I hope the damages award is negligible." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/06/carpmaels-ransford-sued-for-missed.html?showComment=1626638213001#c5375878804288753484 [12:34] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@t4isndj2qm3zi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:34] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:51] *cbrtrnx[m] has quit (Quit: Bridge terminating on SIGTERM) [12:54] *cbrtrnx[m] (~cbrtrnxma@2001:470:69fc:105::3f7a) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [13:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.40 swarm size (avg): 285.89 [13:08] techrights-news Chat Over Gemini:// and Potentially #IRC or Document Drops http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/advancing-gemini/ #Geminiprotocol ##GeminiSpace #internet [13:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chat Over Gemini:// and Potentially IRC or Document Drops | Techrights [13:16] techrights-news #Handbrake 1.4 Released with Apple M1 Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153533 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Handbrake 1.4 Released with Apple M1 Support | Tux Machines [13:18] techrights-news Rock 3A Offers Faster M.2 Storage in Raspberry Pi Form Factor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153526#comment-30313 [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROCK 3A SBC brings M.2 slots for NVMe SSD, WiFi 6 to Raspberry Pi form factor | Tux Machines [13:20] techrights-news Today we take a look at means of communication over gemini:// or something thats akin to Gemini apps; the protocol is sufficiently open-ended for some useful things that dont overcomplicate or contribute to useless bloat http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/advancing-gemini/ [13:32] techrights-news [Meme] Web Sites and Capsules: Not Mutually Exclusive or Binary Choices http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/gemini-and-http/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/gemini-and-http/ [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Web Sites and Capsules: Not Mutually Exclusive or Binary Choices | Techrights [13:33] gustaf Gemini!? How about... PDF?! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27880905 [13:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | We are drowning in churn and noise. I am fighting by switching this site to PDF | Hacker News [13:43] MinceR :) [13:43] MinceR finally the site can be broken also due to adobe's ineptitude [13:43] techrights-news Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Docs Editors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153534 [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Docs Editors | Tux Machines [13:43] MinceR "portable" document format [13:44] schestowitz this was laughed at [13:44] schestowitz [12:14] "A well-deserved rant against the current state of the Web, well-written and with many fine points we will all agree with. But the conclusion will surprise many of you: instead of Gemini, he suggests PDF." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006940.html [13:49] *CrystalMath (~coderain@nn8a3bpkhv5gc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] activelow headache, confusing a document format with www protocols. PDFs are not tampering-resistent, and when served by http/ftp/.. their origin isn't guaranteed to remain online either [13:53] schestowitz I am doing a meme about it atm [13:54] activelow besides PDF isn't the best document format to choose from either. RFCs are written in plain ASCII easily printed on a 9pin matrix-printer if desired [13:58] gustaf if forced to choose I'd choose PDF over Gemini becasue I care about typography [13:59] activelow i'll create some gemini ebuilds for gentoo soon, and probably will choose gemini for my blog (after i evaluated html static site generators recently) ● Jul 19 [14:00] gustaf I've been running a blog using Markdown and static generation for decades now [14:01] activelow i want to maintain the blog content with git, used ikiwiki before since it integrates nicely with git, gemini seems simpler [14:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/pdf-versus-web.jpg [14:02] gustaf lol schestowitz [14:02] gustaf too true [14:02] gustaf activelow: use Markdown , or AsciiDoc, or w/e [14:02] gustaf then generate beatiful readable HTML [14:03] gustaf but I've already made my feelings about Gemini known [14:04] activelow besides ikiwiki i had noted Pelican static site generator on my list recently, if gemini made my blogging simpler i'll not look back to http/html [14:05] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153535 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:05] activelow must easily be maintained with git, easy authoring, and output rendered ideally is printed nicely on 9pin matrix printer; chances are gemini integrates nicely into the workflow [14:07] activelow gemini design probably simplifies output rendering, and printing bitmap images from gemini probably spares the hazzle of layout rendering, 9pin matrix printers requires some bitmap format conversion only for a clean output [14:08] activelow not sure yet about scientific authoring with gemini, if this includes mathematical formulas, and if/how TeX typesetting is possible [14:09] gustaf no [14:09] gustaf you can render DVI/PS/PDF and link to it [14:10] gustaf it's a farce that HTML is still lacking good math/tech typesetting [14:10] activelow or render some TeX maths formula into bitmap, as a proof of concept [14:10] activelow for good reasons i maintain 9pin/24pin matrix printing support here with lprng [14:11] gustaf you can't have inline images in Gemini [14:11] activelow i had seen gemini content from techrights which contained bitmap/images, i'll review this anyway [14:11] gustaf ah ok [14:12] schestowitz logo maybe [14:12] schestowitz but some clients do not support it [14:12] activelow yes [14:12] schestowitz the bulletins have images as unicode art [14:12] gustaf there's an interesting discussion about this very case on Lobste.rs but the site is down ATM [14:12] activelow ideally output rendering is simple and correct with both digital screen client, and 9pin matrix printer [14:12] schestowitz draft: http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/short-downtime/ [14:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Planned Maintenance Tomorrow Morning (Short Downtime, Impacting Gemini Only) | Techrights [14:12] schestowitz typos likely [14:15] activelow search-index integration and search engine frontend was another todo, used xapian-omega with ikiwiki, then recoll inexexer, and the elasticsearch coding i did for DLR supplier [14:16] activelow i'll see how this is accomplished in gemini space soon [14:20] techrights-news Planned Maintenance Tomorrow Morning (Short Downtime, Impacting Gemini Only) http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/short-downtime/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/short-downtime/ [14:23] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153536 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [14:24] psydroid_ https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1417085393762099200 [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marcan42: Disgusting. @workedntheory from Muse Group (MuseScore, Audacity) *continues* to personally threaten a Chinese expat https://t.co/vuqF09SgHU [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marcan42: Disgusting. @workedntheory from Muse Group (MuseScore, Audacity) *continues* to personally threaten a Chinese expat https://t.co/vuqF09SgHU [14:25] techrights-news Scalpers are already trying to make some quick cash with the #SteamDeck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/scalpers-are-already-trying-to-make-some-quick-cash-with-the-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [14:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scalpers are already trying to make some quick cash with the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [14:27] techrights-news Godot 4.0 with Vulkan getting closer to Alpha http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153509#comment-30314 [14:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: ScummVM, Godot, and GNU/Linux in Consoles | Tux Machines [14:29] techrights-news OpenLoco for Chris Sawyer's Locomotion has an important update out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/openloco-for-chris-sawyers-locomotion-has-an-important-update-out but #deletegithub ... it's #ProprietarySoftware and an attack on #freesw http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenLoco for Chris Sawyer's Locomotion has an important update out | GamingOnLinux [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [14:30] techrights-news #TRBot sounds like the #TechRights Bot we've had for many years in #IRC https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/an-interview-with-the-developer-of-trbot-for-running-your-own-twitch-plays-like-event [14:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An interview with the developer of TRBot for running your own Twitch Plays like event | GamingOnLinux [14:41] techrights-news Official #GNU #Linux support for The Lightbringer is now confirmed | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/07/official-linux-support-for-the-lightbringer-is-now-confirmed MinceR the Lightbringer? [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Official Linux support for The Lightbringer is now confirmed | GamingOnLinux [14:44] techrights-news #Games: Steam Deck, OpenLoco, and Much More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153537 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, OpenLoco, and Much More | Tux Machines [14:45] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153536 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:46] techrights-news #SuckLess https://thenewstack.io/how-to-make-tech-interviews-suck-less/ [14:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | How to Make Tech Interviews Suck Less The New Stack [14:47] techrights-news "Tech interviews can be performative at best and exclusionary at worst, writes Jennifer Riggins, with stress-inducing whiteboard tests, for example, favoring the most charismatic candidates rather than the most qualified." [14:50] *mib_nm0i61 (~414e17bd@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] techrights-news gemini:// and http:// (or https://) can work just fine in conjunction; more Web sites ought to realise that its worth the effort (porting over to gemini:// which is not hard at all) http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/gemini-and-http/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/gemini-and-http/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: (or https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// (or https://) ) [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Web Sites and Capsules: Not Mutually Exclusive or Binary Choices | Techrights [14:55] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153538 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:55] techrights-news Impending network upgrades (optical fibre at home) will cause some disruptions, loss of productivity and a short downtime tomorrow, but hopefully this will be the last of it all http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/short-downtime/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/short-downtime/ [14:56] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] techrights-news LOLLLL!!!! https://www.maketecheasier.com/microsoft-recommends-disable-print-spooler/ #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Microsoft Recommends Users Disable Print Spooler to Avoid Exploit - Make Tech Easier [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [14:59] *mib_nm0i61 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) ● Jul 19 [15:01] techrights-news Yo, Microsoft, there is a severe bug with printing jeopardising our ENTIRE COMPUTER! Microsoft: what do you need a printer for ANYWAY? Disable the thing. Throw it away. [15:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 36.35 swarm size (avg): 285.87 [15:11] techrights-news #ibm #redhat peddling #buzzwords as usual https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/7/artificial-intelligence-ai-strategy-how-develop [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Artificial Intelligence (AI) strategy: 10 questions to ask about yours | The Enterprisers Project [15:14] techrights-news #Microsoft Has Found Another Flaw In The #PrintSpooler Service https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/microsoft-has-found-another-flaw-in-the-printspooler-service-7188451.html http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [15:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.moneycontrol.com | Microsoft Has Found Another Flaw In The PrintSpooler Service [15:17] techrights-news #Fedora 35 Approved For Third-Party Repo Changes, More Optimal Encryption Default - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-35-More-Changes #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora 35 Approved For Third-Party Repo Changes, More Optimal Encryption Default - Phoronix [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:18] techrights-news Apps for daily needs part 2: office suites - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/apps-for-daily-needs-part-2-office-suites/ #Fedora #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linuxmagazine | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Apps for daily needs part 2: office suites - Fedora Magazine [15:21] techrights-news Toughened up DAQ system runs Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153539 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Toughened up DAQ system runs Linux | Tux Machines [15:22] techrights-news The Importance Of Thermald On Linux For Modern Intel Tiger Lake Laptops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153540 [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Importance Of Thermald On Linux For Modern Intel Tiger Lake Laptops | Tux Machines [15:22] techrights-news #Devuan 4.0 Alpha Builds Updated For Debian 11 Stripped Of systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153541 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devuan 4.0 Alpha Builds Updated For Debian 11 Stripped Of systemd | Tux Machines [15:24] techrights-news Coming soon: worst Sunday-Monday #covid19 figures #uk saw in 6 months http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/18/the-united-kingdom-lacks-responsible-leadership/ [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The United Kingdom Lacks Responsible Leadership [15:25] techrights-news Meet Clapper: A Sleek Looking Linux Video Player for Minimalists http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153484#comment-30315 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Don't Miss: Clapper is My New Go-To Linux Video Player | Tux Machines [15:29] techrights-news #ibm is still bruised by what it did to #redhat and #rhel ... when it decided to kill off #centos and merely sent people away from RHEL base https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/expanding-red-hat-enterprise-linux-choices-research-and-academia [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Expanding Red Hat Enterprise Linux choices for research and academia [15:30] techrights-news #ibm shilling #dnf at the expense of the market leader for #gnu #linux packaging https://opensource.com/article/21/7/dnf-vs-apt [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux package managers: dnf vs apt | Opensource.com [15:31] techrights-news It's over now. #NeuroFedora https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2021/07/19/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-19-july-1300-utc.html [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 19 July 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog [15:35] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware Glory http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153542 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Glory | Tux Machines [15:35] techrights-news #Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153543 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:40] Librarian 01:59 < Guest90> ...This channel is just an anti-Techrights cesspool, hijacked by enemies of Techrights... [15:40] Librarian < Guest90> most people are not against Techrights [15:40] Librarian < Guest90> but still, it is not an officlal channel [15:40] Librarian So, which is it, Guest90? Are we enemies of Techrights, or not against Techrights? [15:40] Librarian Why don't you just make something up, as a pure fiction? [15:41] Librarian That's as good as being technically right, isn't it? Just making up falsehoods is better than saying something you can back with evidence, I'm sure. [15:42] Librarian Guest90: the real difference is that, in this channel, we can discuss tech rights as *supporting* other rights, like speech rights, economic rights, and human rights. [15:43] Librarian In your "official" tech rights channel, you silence people for attempting to stand up for speech rights, economic rights, and human rights. [15:43] Librarian So your tech rights are useless. It's just to whine about Microsoft and IBM. [15:45] techrights-news Links 19/7/2021: Handbrake 1.4 Release and Devuan 4.0 Alpha http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/devuan-4-0-alpha/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/07/19/devuan-4-0-alpha/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/7/2021: Handbrake 1.4 Release and Devuan 4.0 Alpha | Techrights [15:45] techrights-news Why does this #Maine legislator use Linux? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153544 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why does this Maine legislator use Linux? | Tux Machines [15:46] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153545 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:46] Librarian Guest90: here is a sample of the kinds of people who infest your "official" techrights channel, in contrast to the speech-rights/economic-rights/human-rights tech rights we can support here: [15:46] Librarian 09:57 < immibis> Librarian: i believe dark skin is caused by an accumulation of toxins that also impede brain function. don't you think this theory holds some water? [15:47] Librarian Guest90: in your "official" channel, you support people like this, and also ariadne who screams death wishes at anyone she disagrees with. ● Jul 19 [16:07] techrights-news Meson 0.59 Build System Adds First Class Cython, Wine Resource Compiler Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Meson-0.59-Build-System #deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [16:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meson 0.59 Build System Adds First Class Cython, Wine Resource Compiler Support - Phoronix [16:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [16:13] techrights-news Tim Lauridsen: Clapper A GNOME media player http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153484#comment-30316 [16:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Don't Miss: Clapper is My New Go-To Linux Video Player | Tux Machines [16:16] techrights-news The JingPad A1 is a Feature-packed, Flagship Level Linux Tablet?! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/152315#comment-30317 [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for the JingPad A1 Linux tablet begins | Tux Machines [16:20] techrights-news All of those would be generic and hence totally crap https://medevel.com/budibase/ [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Budibase: A no-code platform that turns idea into apps in a blaze [16:23] techrights-news #southafrica crisis https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/oped/comment/state-capture-is-the-original-sin-that-saw-s-africa-go-to-the-dogs-3478228 [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theeastafrican.co.ke | State capture is the original sin that saw S. Africa go to the dogs - The East African [16:23] techrights-news #HospitalRun : an open-source clinical practice solution for low resources environment http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153546 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HospitalRun: an open-source clinical practice solution for low resources environment | Tux Machines [16:25] techrights-news The real solution is to replace ChromeOS with a "real" #GNU #Linux distro rather than the trap made by Google https://chromeunboxed.com/chrome-os-91-broke-linux-heres-the-workaround/ [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | Chrome OS 91 broke Linux, heres the workaround [16:28] techrights-news A beefy Linux 5.14-rc2 and light at the end of the tunnel for Paragon's NTFS driver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153517#comment-30318 [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc2 | Tux Machines [16:30] techrights-news Misleading crap; they target weak passwords ("SSH brute-forcer written in Golang") rather than #Linux but #thehackernews seems to be pushing #Microsoft 's #propaganda line instead https://thehackernews.com/2021/07/researchers-warn-of-linux-cryptojacking.html [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Researchers Warn of Linux Cryptojacking Attackers Operating from Romania [16:32] techrights-news At the moment millions of Windows machines are being hijacked for Microsoft holes that it failed to patch, the media rarely mentions the real culprit. #Microsoft is a dangerous cult that bribes the media. [16:33] XRevan86 The crazy people haven't spoken, were they banned? [16:34] techrights-news Top 7 Linux Questions from #Java Interviews - LinuxTechLab https://linuxtechlab.com/top-7-linux-questions-from-java-interviews/ #linuxtechlab | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top 7 Linux Questions from Java Interviews - LinuxTechLab [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:43] techrights-news #redhat / #ibm sees academic institutions fleeing #centos for something IBM does not control, possibly not even #rhel based http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153543#comment-30320 [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:44] techrights-news NVIDIA 470.57.02 Graphics Driver Brings Support for RTX 3070/80 Ti GPUs, DOOM Eternal Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153547 [16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 470.57.02 Graphics Driver Brings Support for RTX 3070/80 Ti GPUs, DOOM Eternal Fixes | Tux Machines [16:45] techrights-news #ubuntu was in the business name https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/news/news-of-looting-ceo-qhawe-sithole-sends-shockwaves-across-sa-00f9b3c1-e899-4a0b-a9df-6cdeb70467cd [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iol.co.za | News of looting CEO Qhawe Sithole sends shockwaves across SA [16:47] techrights-news This issue here is not Linux; this seems like a black PR campaign https://www.oodaloop.com/briefs/2021/07/19/linux-variant-of-hellokitty-ransomware-targets-vmware-esxi-servers/ [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oodaloop.com | OODA Loop - Linux Variant of HelloKitty Ransomware Targets VMware ESXi Servers [16:50] techrights-news hot o tarnish the name #Linux using something that's not related to it (while at the same time not naming Windows when #Windows is, in fact, at fault) https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/95680-linux-version-of-hellokitty-ransomware-targets-vmware-esxi [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.securitymagazine.com | Linux version of HelloKitty ransomware targets VMware ESXi | 2021-07-19 | Security Magazine [16:55] techrights-news Another #github and #microsoft infestation in #linux #kernel ... with #google backing and funding it https://lwn.net/Articles/863459/ [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A GPIO driver in Rust [LWN.net] [16:55] techrights-news Anti-Linux FUD/Misinformation and Security Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153548 [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Anti-Linux FUD/Misinformation and Security Patches | Tux Machines [16:56] *mib_031q7b (~414e17bd@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [17:01] techrights-news Stable Kernels: 5.13.3, 5.12.18, 5.10.51, and 5.4.133 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153549 #kernel #linux [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.13.3, 5.12.18, 5.10.51, and 5.4.133 | Tux Machines [17:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153550 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.85 swarm size (avg): 285.84 [17:05] techrights-news Ultra App Kit Released https://www.ultraengine.com/community/blogs/entry/2672-ultra-app-kit-released/ [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ultraengine.com | Ultra App Kit Released - Leadwerks Company Blog - Ultra Engine Community - Game Engine for VR [17:06] techrights-news #VoiceTurn is a voice-controlled turn signal system for safer bike rides | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/07/19/voiceturn-is-a-voice-controlled-turn-signal-system-for-safer-bike-rides/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/07/19/#latest [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | VoiceTurn is a voice-controlled turn signal system for safer bike rides | Arduino Blog [17:07] *mib_031q7b has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:12] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153551 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:12] techrights-news Leap Gains Maintenance Update Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153552 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #OpenSUSE #SUSE [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leap Gains Maintenance Update Improvements | Tux Machines [17:16] gustaf maybe they're asleep [17:17] techrights-news How much of these are paid for? The likes of #IBM and #Microsoft love bribing for such PR badges. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/awards-roll-call-march-july-2021 [17:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Awards roll call: March to July 2021 [17:17] schestowitz gustaf: who are? [17:19] techrights-news March Networks' New GNU/Linux-Based VMS Scales to Support 3,000 IP Cameras on a Single Server https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/march-networks-new-linux-based-vms-scales-to-support-3-000-ip-cameras-on-a-single-server-301336533.html [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | March Networks' New Linux-Based VMS Scales to Support 3,000 IP Cameras on a Single Server [17:20] Librarian This is an endorsement of bitcoin for economic freedom. Just like when the US and USSR embassies agreed to communicate using One-Time-Pad encryption, we learn what technologies are most trusted by how we communicate with our enemies. [17:20] gustaf I'm guessing XRevan86 is referring to the catfight between phanes and some other person [17:20] Librarian https://www.forbes.com/sites/martinrivers/2021/07/18/got-bitcoin-will-buy-intel-us-government-offers-cryptocurrency-bounty-in-radical-new-approach-to-fighting-cybercrime/ [17:21] XRevan86 yes [17:21] XRevan86 bagira was going to give some proof of his words and simply never did. [17:22] schestowitz it was totally off topic [17:24] *mib_lg71n2 (~414e17bd@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:25] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153553 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:25] *phanes/fn stretches [17:25] techrights-news Andreas Schneider: Improved cmdline UX in upcoming Samba 4.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153554 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Andreas Schneider: Improved cmdline UX in upcoming Samba 4.15 | Tux Machines [17:27] techrights-news #Kodachi 8.7 is out https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/ #gnu #linux [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digi77.com | Linux Kodachi 8.7 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization [17:35] cbrtrnx[m] What technologies cannot be really trusted, just shows this messed up Pegasus story: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jul/18/viktor-orban-using-nso-spyware-in-assault-on-media-data-suggests android and iOS phones both affected. On iOS they use an iMessage vulnerability, so the user doesn't have to click on anything. [17:38] Librarian Sounds remensicent of this little historical episode: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher [17:45] *mib_lg71n2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:50] cbrtrnx[m] Yes, seems to be the same kind of mess... nso, hacking team (italy), candiru, finfisher and so on... Apparently big business. 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[19:44] activelow which limits the use cases somehow. otherwise gemini had the huge benefit output transformations could remain very simple (for 9pin matrix printer and screen output at console/framebuffer or within GUI), with predictable formatting and layout [19:46] activelow initially i'll refrain from fully integrating my workflow into gemini, could implement some gemini client, and output transformations. not sure yet. [19:49] activelow gemini search engine is another issue to review, how gemini is indexed globally and by whom. [19:52] gustaf it's small enough for "anyone" to run a crawler I think [19:53] gustaf activelow: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/005326.html [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Math Notation in Gemini? [19:55] gustaf ok looks like MathJax actually works for HTML now... but requires JavaScript [19:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [19:57] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [20:01] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:17] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/06/13/ff5b20d72f5bd413.png [20:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [20:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [21:00] AdmFubar https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/the-pegasus-leak-what-you-need-to-know-right-now-9819351.html [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Pegasus leak: What you need to know right now- Technology News, Firstpost [21:03] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 40.15 swarm size (avg): 285.81 [21:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [21:31] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [21:47] MinceR https://telex.hu/direkt36/2021/07/19/pegasus-nso-hungary-viktor-orban-cyberweapon [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telex.hu | Telex: Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbn were targeted with Pegasus, a powerful Israeli cyberweapon [21:50] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [21:57] *tr_guest|15665 (~459208de@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:57] *tr_guest|15665 (~459208de@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has left #techrights ● Jul 19 [22:12] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:13] *psydroid_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:14] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/07/19/samsung-shuttering-original-smartthings-hubs/ [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Samsung Shuttering Original SmartThings Hubs | Hackaday [22:14] psymin was the website redesigned or is it broken? :D [22:14] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.115.172) has joined #techrights [22:28] psydruid I see a lot of Microsoft boosters trolling about the fact that Nvidia has released a demo video with a game that has been ported to GNU/Linux on ARM SoC from Nvidia. After the news about Valve's Steam Deck this must be another major reason for concern. [22:34] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:34] schestowitz psydruid: Hackaday? [22:34] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:34] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:35] *acer-box____ (~acer-box@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:35] *asusbox (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [22:36] *acer-box__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:36] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:36] psydruid schestowitz, Tweakers, so in Dutch [22:36] AdmFubar oh... Happy "Freedom Day" roy ;) [22:37] schestowitz Brisnaro day [22:38] psydruid I haven't taken a look at international media in English yet, but the lack of native games and overall immaturity of Proton for GNU/Linux gaming is the next goalpost they have moved to [22:39] psydruid it's a tactic to always make Windows look better than the turd it actually is [22:39] schestowitz What you refer to as Microsoft rolls... [22:39] schestowitz might iin fact be paid-fopr PR [22:39] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights [22:39] psydruid yes, I am aware of that [22:40] psydruid which is why I always try to debunk their misinformation, when I come across it [22:40] psydruid but nowadays more people see through it and react unfavourably [22:43] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/16/something_for_the_weekend/ [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | The lights go off, broadband drops out, the TV freezes and nobody knows why (spooky music) The Register [22:44] schestowitz psydruid: maybe that's the onyly way they can stil;l 'compete' [22:47] psydruid yes, from where I am there is just no way for them to compete [22:48] psydruid if they lose the home market, they will have to retreat to the business market [22:48] psydruid where they will also be replaced over time [22:49] psydruid this is why they have been buying up so many game studios over the years [22:49] psydruid a normal software company has no interest in games, but they are trying to be everything to everyone [22:55] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:57] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:58] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [23:02] *XFaCE has quit (Quit: Retiring completely for now ("Automatic for the people, thanks for all the fish")) [23:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:04] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [23:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:10] schestowitz Is #Microsoft a National Security Threat? http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [23:10] schestowitz just published [23:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [23:29] *liberty_box (~liberty@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc) has joined #techrights [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)