●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 ●● ● Jul 19 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] britney i like lynx but my two main e-mail accounts are with protonmail and tutanota and they require javascript to do e2e encryption [00:00] elephant i've spend the last weeks to fix more than 100 issues when cross-compiling with GNU/FSF autotools involved, for example [00:00] phanes so [00:01] phanes wtf is the deal with daniel pocock [00:01] elephant i mean, when i see the GNU/FSF license banner anywhere... this triggers clinical psychosis [00:01] phanes every time ive talked to him he's been lucid but i dont understand his campaigns or their utility, or what the history is there [00:04] elephant i need to review the gigatron ttl, seems this is the last remaing system [00:04] elephant z80 is still useful, because it's cheap and introductory literature exists... [00:05] elephant gigatron control language, native assembly etc. that's not easy [00:05] elephant and given the situation surrounding compilers, GCC, to name that one again, i am not willing to rely on any of this any longer [00:05] elephant nor linux kernel, any of the BSD, none of this [00:06] britney elephant, what OS do you use? [00:06] elephant linux compiler.h somewhere: #if IBM GCC #elif MAPPLE CLANG #else #message "not endorsed by pentagon made in usa" #endif [00:07] elephant britney: currently i still got linux kernel, with some custom c-only toolchain system profile, fiddled together with gentoo [00:07] britney freebsd kinda reminds me of gentoo [00:07] elephant *BSD aren't acceptable for me, because llvm/clang [00:08] elephant if OpenBSD continued with PCC, maybe then, with llvm/clan and gcc they are out alike [00:09] elephant and gentoo got many issues too, cross-compiling anything outside their @system set (which doesn't at least include their own release management tooling, catalyst, because it fails cross-compile) [00:09] DaemonFC https://i.redd.it/d8z5h1xy4ec91.jpg [00:10] elephant meaning, the entire free software stack is practically wrecked [00:10] phanes yeah pretty much [00:11] XRevan86 DaemonFC: That doesn't mean "PowerShell 4", right? [00:11] phanes if LFS dies, there will likely not be another gcc/libc/gnu distro not based on another ever again [00:11] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:12] DaemonFC No. [00:12] phanes crosstool-ng is just a wrapper for that toolchain and their docs and usage are just as ambigious as gcc's is for that purpose [00:12] elephant phanes: aboriginal linux was another such approach, the developer had left some remarks on the mailing lists, why he quit [00:13] elephant because, GNU toolchain issues, GPL3 (not sure why that's a problem), aboriginal is dead too [00:13] MinceR https://voidlinux.org/packages/?arch=x86_64&q=gcc [00:13] TR Bot Enter the void - Packages [00:13] phanes nobody knows how to cross-compile a sysroot anymore [00:13] bnchs i'm thinking of using openBSD [00:13] MinceR i see OpenRISC (or1k) here [00:13] bnchs is it good? [00:13] MinceR re 19 003018 < elephant> GNU/FSF, their #1 project, GCC, targets specific vendors [00:13] elephant bnchs: it can't be much worse than GNU/Linux [00:14] MinceR C++ is a multiparadigm language, it supports OOP, and it support non-OOP as well [00:15] bnchs elephant: i mean it doesn't suffer from the problems GNU/Linux has now [00:15] MinceR s/rt /rts / [00:16] elephant MinceR: i considered migrating the c-only toolchain profile to the void package management system, because, it's written in C at least [00:16] elephant however, it's too much work [00:17] MinceR not the point [00:17] elephant and regardless of the package management, cross-compilation is a nightmare [00:17] MinceR also irrelevant [00:18] MinceR if you have an OpenRISC system to build binaries on, you can do so with GCC [00:18] MinceR if you don't, you'll need to cross-compile or bootstrap somehow [00:18] elephant i want to remove GCC, fully remove it [00:18] MinceR and you can cross-compile with GCC [00:18] MinceR yeah, you want to remove GCC because it "targets specific vendors", even though it demonstrably doesn't [00:19] MinceR suit yourself [00:19] elephant i am done with GCC/GNU/FSF... ideally there wasn't any single piece of software from them remaining anywhere [00:20] elephant as far as GCC is concerned, simply name one vendor who published their Verilog/HDL and a self-hosting system for development could be maintained [00:20] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2207093 [00:20] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/h0aiua64wb991.png created on 2022-07-09 00:46:56.354320 [00:20] elephant MinceR: i can tell you how many there are: 0, Null, Nothing [00:21] elephant this is what j-core.org tried to accomplish, with their turtle board... see how this ended... [00:21] MinceR https://openrisc.io/ [00:21] TR Bot OpenRISC - OpenRISC [00:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:21] XRevan86 https://bellingcat.com/news/2022/07/18/donbas-doubles-the-search-for-girkin-and-plotnitskys-cover-identities [00:21] TR Bot Doubles: The Search for Girkin and Plotnitsky's Cover Identities - bellingcat [00:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:22] MinceR https://riscv.org/ [00:22] TR Bot RISC-V International [00:23] MinceR https://j-core.org/ [00:23] TR Bot J-core Open Processor [00:23] MinceR "Current linux, gcc, binutils, and musl-libc versions support j-core out of the box." [00:23] elephant _CURRENT_ [00:23] elephant this is the GCC compiler versions written in C++ [00:23] MinceR oh right, you demand that they do software development with a time machine [00:24] elephant good luck, and have fun, porting a gcc compiler natively onto a J-core board, and do "free software" with this [00:24] elephant a single core system, clocked at who knows 400MHz, and compile GCC itself at least [00:24] elephant tell me when you're done, in 10 years [00:25] elephant with FPGA and open-source/free software tooling for this - j-core.org - dicussed it, the FPGAs with J2 deployed onto won't clock higher than 10MHz or something [00:26] elephant some lattice ICE ECP5, don't remember precisely [00:26] elephant or you may pick some overpriced Xilinx/Altera and play with some Wintel PC nearby to do the magic [00:27] elephant all this is f*** and screwed at that many levels, no way, there isn't anything free as in free remaining [00:27] elephant not with GNU/FSF/Linux IBM Wintel Pentagon whoever [00:30] elephant if however, this is the idea, at least the c++ cancer was removed, this will cut down compile-time 90% already [00:31] elephant the next, if the GCC horror was wiped (not to mention Mappel LLVM), if GCC was fully replaced with TinyCC, this improved another 90% down with compilation times of some useful software [00:32] MinceR code would probably run faster on a 400MHz J-core if it was compiled with optimizations enabled :> [00:32] elephant then, and only then, free software can be deployed onto some hardware (with opensource Verilog/HDL) which could barely be considered free as in free [00:32] elephant MinceR: not "run" some code, i talk about development on and with free software on free hardware [00:32] MinceR right, you never run code, you only compile it and then throw it away [00:33] elephant pardon? what's free software supposed to be? software whose sources i review and write and compile? or some binary shit fiddled together on IBM Wintel PC? [00:37] MinceR the idea is that you can write it, review it, build it and use it [00:38] elephant yes, and? what GNU/FSF IBM Wintel Pentago advertise don't keep up to anything promised. [00:38] elephant have fun with g++ on a j2 turtle board cloced at 200MHz with 256MiB RAM or similar [00:38] elephant see for yourself, how much "free software" remains then... almost nothing [00:40] elephant as a cornerstone, a rule of thumb, no C++ anywhere, not a single line of it... [00:40] elephant and this was sabotaged too, it's not some new idea, this was how it was supposed to be, to stay safe with some parts of what was supposed to be "free" as in free [00:42] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:43] MinceR i'm pretty sure i used C++ in a 120MHz Pentium with gcc [00:44] MinceR (or djgpp) [00:45] elephant and what? Intel didn't publish any Verilog/HDL for any later than their i8080/8086 (or Zilog Z80), meaning you got some compiler and no appropriate hardware with Verilog/HDL available [00:45] elephant otherwise, i doubt a GCC of the pentium era can emit for RISC-V, OpenRISC or anything [00:47] elephant this pentium 120MHz isn't only proprietary malicious, it's too outdated, slow and inefficient [00:47] MinceR that's the point [00:47] MinceR the open cores you're dissing are more powerful than that CPU [00:48] elephant TinyCC added some support for RISC-V already, although i cannot say anything with certainty, except, TinyCC couldn't compile linux kernel 5.10 [00:49] elephant so, here we got, an efficient compiler, free as in free and opensource, with appropriate hardware supported, yet this is what GNU/Linux does: [00:49] elephant #if IBM GCC #elif MAPPLE CLANG #else #message "not endores by IBM Wintel Pentagon made in usa" #endif [00:50] britney elephant, people call me a lunatic [00:50] elephant besides, typically, modern hardware, is stuffed with other crap, such as proprietary/closed USB, HDMI, Ethernet [00:51] elephant any other than USB1 isn't known to me as being free as in free, Ethernet 10Mbps (maybe 100), not aware of HDMI being open [00:53] elephant MinceR: which open core had i been dissing? there simply isn't any free support for anything. [00:53] elephant you'll always reach a dead end, and even if you succeeded with any of this, let's say within 2 years of work... [00:54] elephant i bet, chances are, this is what you'll find with suppliers "out of stock", next advertisement, free software with a termination cycle of 2 years at most [00:54] elephant buy the next best shit, again [00:55] MinceR afaik displayport is open [00:55] MinceR their connectors are a pain to use, though [00:56] elephant sorry britney, no clue why anyone would say this [00:56] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/mybody1.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-mybody#comic ) [00:56] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [00:58] britney elephant, probably because of my website: https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/ [00:58] TR Bot Cerberus Investigations [00:58] britney i talk about reptilians and neanderthals running the world [00:58] britney elephant, what kind of computer do you use? [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [01:01] elephant britney: what do you want to know? currently i got two boxes powered on: a cortex a53 and a cortex A72/a53. [01:02] britney elephant, i was curious because u were dissing intel [01:03] elephant i hate them all, the entire made in usa corrupt cartell [01:04] britney why do you hate america so much? [01:05] elephant didn't say america [01:05] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fZZqDJXOVg [01:05] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6fZZqDJXOVg [01:05] TR Bot yewtu.be | If You Don't Like America, Then You Can Get Out - South Park - Invidious [01:05] britney MinceR, +1 [01:06] elephant and it is rather specific, who and what i hate about them, and their minions acting arround the globe elsewhere too [01:07] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/19/windows-is-still-just-a-poorly-debugged-set-of-device-drivers/ [01:07] TR Bot Windows is still just a poorly debugged set of device drivers. BaronHK's Rants [01:07] DaemonFC I went on to talk about SJVN and ZDNet. [01:07] DaemonFC I said Microsoft is using him as "Backup Dr. Pizza". [01:08] DaemonFC "Theyve turned SJVN at ZDNet into Backup Dr. Pizza. [01:08] DaemonFC Hes been spewing the same type of anti-GNU/Linux and pro-Microsoft bullshit that Peter Bright was at Ars Technica, before Bright/Dr. Pizza got convicted for trying to rape two children under 10. [01:08] DaemonFC Although Im certainly not accusing SJVN of being a perverted monster, I am accusing him of being where Microsoft went after Dr. Pizza to get their stuff published. I cant imagine what SJVNs job must be like. [01:08] DaemonFC It reminds me of Bob Arcter in A Scanner Darkly, being forced to read the DEAs drug war propaganda, being fed his lines through an earpiece, and the agent tells him to just say the shit. Or Kevin Spaceys character in American Beauty, bemoaning being a whore for the advertising industry while it sucks out his soul. [01:08] DaemonFC While Pizza/Bright was a willing co-conspirator of Microsofts due to being a very bad person, I think SJVN is just trying to make it to retirement. So it may not be fair to compare their reasons to collaborate with Microsoft, but the result is the same. Microsofts propaganda is still being published. [01:08] DaemonFC Does anyone read ZDNet anymore? I cant remember the last time I did. It was going downhill so fast that I havent seen anything about them that Roy Schestowitz hasnt highlighted about them in a while. Sad! " [01:08] MinceR i suspect displayport connectors would still work fine with those annoying teeth ripped out though [01:11] britney ZDNet was always trash [01:12] elephant micros~1 offers binary malware, gnu/fsf offer opensource/free software how they call it, and both target malicious hardware vendors [01:12] elephant in any case, this is what you'll end up with: a non-free system, which is controlled by IBM Wintel Pentagon USA. [01:14] elephant seems to me, the micros~1 vs linux narrative is perpetuaged to distract and deflect from the fact, with regards to freedom, there isn't any to be had with "made in usa" [01:14] MinceR do it with russian hardware and a russian C++ compiler, then [01:14] MinceR and a russian OS [01:15] elephant MinceR: to my knowledge, the Elbrus CPU from the russians seems to be an Itanium clone (not sure) [01:15] elephant why should i use that? [01:15] elephant and i haven't got any schematics or reliable information at all [01:16] elephant TTL7400 series parts and gigatron seems the last remaining, and this is 50years old tech to be had, as free as in free [01:17] XRevan86 "seems to be an Itanium clone" <- It's not. [01:18] elephant it shares the VLIW design of IA64... [01:18] britney elephant, you could always try designing your own processor [01:19] elephant i think the gigatron is a better start than doing everyting from scratch [01:19] XRevan86 elephant: Some generations of AMD Radeon's are VLIWs, so what? [01:20] MinceR VLIW existed well before the Itanic [01:20] elephant elephant> and i haven't got any schematics or reliable information at all [01:20] elephant why bother with this? [01:20] MinceR 19 021526 < elephant> why should i use that? [01:20] MinceR follows from all the anti-USA posturing and the pro-putler propaganda [01:20] XRevan86 MinceR: So much so VLIW is in Elbrus since the 80s. [01:21] XRevan86 Clearly copied from the 2000s Intel processors. [01:21] MinceR the Z80 is usian, the 7400-series is usian [01:23] XRevan86 I know a person that can help with finding information on Elbrus, but I can't be bothered, this discussion is not serious anyway, and Elbrus is a secretive thing. [01:23] MinceR :> [01:24] elephant btw. if i followed the idea with TTL7400 series chips, the datahseets from TI were worth having a look at, if the internal circuitry of those is documented [01:24] elephant down to logic gate level [01:25] elephant keeping the transistor level out of scope for now [01:25] elephant and with the gigatron ttl, i don't know yet, if the native assembly inside their ROM can be deciphered [01:26] XRevan86 Also, to address the elephant in the room, is elephant activelow? [01:26] *XRevan86 scrolled back. [01:26] XRevan86 Never mind. [01:26] XRevan86 I got my answer. [01:30] XRevan86 The attempts at anonymising are just as productive as it would have been if Terry Davis tried to hide his identity but kept complaining about CIA racial diversity. [01:31] XRevan86 There's not a single person on this earth who talks about the things he talks about. [01:31] elephant "let's pray for the souls of the poor linux atheists and their gay lord leader mr. torvalds" [01:32] elephant a year later, I cannot withould laughout [01:35] MinceR lettuce spray. [01:35] XRevan86 I linked to a Bellingcat investigation above, the significance of it is that it shows that the people behind the 2014 insurgence in Donbas were not just related to FSB but directly involved with it. [01:42] elephant and, if i digged deep down to logic gate level, including ICs such as TTL7400 fiddled together: danger of digital hazards [01:42] XRevan86 MinceR: ray men [01:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [01:44] elephant hazards (timing variances) can kill an entire design and years of work invested into this [01:45] elephant could be another reason why, some of the free/open hardware designs cannot be clocked above a few MHz, not sure [01:47] elephant meaning, it could work at 5MHz, and then, why not, clock this up to 50MHz or 100MHz... bam.... crash, even if the silicon could do it [01:47] elephant a digital circuit timing hazard can ruin the entire design [01:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [01:49] elephant because, the gigatron design is, admittedly, slow, it's real slow, slow realtime that is [01:50] elephant this device couldn't terminate vt100 at 640x480 16 colors, doubt it [01:58] *elephant (~elephant@5adyqrxsr3hiq.irc) has left #techrights (enjoy your freedom) [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [02:03] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [02:08] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [02:31] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], LOL NO! 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Then we will be discussing water cooling your Linux laptop." https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-287/ [04:16] TR Bot Customizing Your Terminal to be a 1337 h@x0r - Destination Linux - TuxDigital [04:17] TR News Move this custom robotic arm through a touchscreen interface | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/move-this-custom-robotic-arm-through-a-touchscreen-interface/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/move-this-custom-robotic-arm-through-a-touchscreen-interface/ [04:17] TR Bot Move this custom robotic arm through a touchscreen interface | Arduino Blog [04:17] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, July 18, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:17] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:18] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:18] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:24] TR News "Dale Harvey implemented an experimental Quick Actions feature in the Address Bar" https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/07/18/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-120/ [04:24] TR Bot These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 120 Firefox Nightly News [04:25] TR News XigmaNAS 13.1.0.5.9244 (beta) is out, based on BSD https://xigmanas.com/xnaswp/ [04:25] TR Bot XigmaNAS [04:25] TR News Curtail is an Awesome Image Compressor Tool for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167398 [04:25] TR Bot Curtail is an Awesome Image Compressor Tool for Linux | Tux Machines [04:35] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: hi [04:35] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Arse Technica replaced Peter Bright with "Ars Staff" on all of his articles, but they are still there. [04:35] DaemonFC Hello [04:35] schestowitz[TR2] yes, I have not mentioned zdnet in a while [04:35] schestowitz[TR2] because they don't publish much [04:35] TR News Windows is Still Just a Poorly Debugged Set of Device Drivers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ [04:36] TR Bot Windows is Still Just a Poorly Debugged Set of Device Drivers | Techrights [04:36] schestowitz[TR2] from http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022 [04:36] TR Bot ZDNet - Techrights [04:36] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/zdnet-is-dying/ [04:36] TR Bot ZDNet is Dying | Techrights [04:36] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/06/28/zdnet-shilling/ [04:36] TR Bot Steven Vaughan-Nichols: Mouthpiece for Jim Zemlin, Salaried by (or via) ZDNet | Techrights [04:36] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/zdnet-fail/ [04:36] TR Bot ZDNet Has Failed | Techrights [04:37] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: it shoulds say "Arse staff" [04:37] schestowitz[TR2] or "kid arse-fscking staff" [04:39] TR News "Although Im certainly not accusing SJVN of being a perverted monster, I am accusing him of being where Microsoft went after Dr. Pizza to get their stuff published. I cant imagine what SJVNs job must be like." http://techrights.org/2022/07/18/windows-as-device-drivers/ [04:42] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I found an article in a British news site about a Pakistani immigrant meeting a 14 year old boy on Grindr. [04:43] DaemonFC He said, "I'll pay you for favors.". [04:43] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:44] DaemonFC When the boy got there, they drove to a part in the guy's car where the guy started having unprotected sex with him, and then 10 minutes later, the boy asked him to stop, so the guy just kept going and threw the kid 20 GBP when he was done and said there'd be "more cash next time". [04:44] DaemonFC So the kid went home and told his parents what happened, and the guy ended up getting convicted. [04:44] DaemonFC Didn't go on for a decade or two because he wasn't rich you know. [04:44] DaemonFC Epstein was throwing $20s at 'em and he still managed to stay a free man for a long time. [04:45] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], It's unfortunate that Ars Technica would rather continue to profit from "Dr. Pizza" than take his articles down. [04:46] DaemonFC They probably still have to pay him something when people read them. [04:47] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], How did Microsoft Peter manage to write 939 articles? [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] those are Microsoft articles [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] published via monstere [04:47] DaemonFC Yeah. [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] Arse uses themto profit [04:47] DaemonFC Ghost writing. [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] e.g. wikipedia links [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] planted by Microsoft [04:47] schestowitz[TR2] hgow Muiicrosoft LOVES giot.. [04:48] schestowitz[TR2] before buying github [04:50] schestowitz[TR2] http://news.tuxmachines.org/ [04:50] TR Bot NO TITLE [04:51] DaemonFC Brian Paul deserved his Free Software Award. [04:51] DaemonFC What happened to people who deserved one receiving one? [04:52] DaemonFC How the hell did it end up being Matthew Garrett and Karen Sandler? [04:52] DaemonFC They can't find anyone on the planet that did something useful? [04:54] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Tor released a major Tor Browser update. [04:54] DaemonFC It now detects when Tor is blocked and prompts the user to use a Tor Bridge. [04:54] DaemonFC Previously, it just left them to wonder what was wrong, or to already know how to fix it. [04:55] DaemonFC I wonder why that went on for so long. [04:58] DaemonFC https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/02/linux-has-2000-new-developers-and-gets-10000-patches-for-each-version/ [04:58] TR Bot Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version | Ars Technica [04:59] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], The Linux Foundation was barely ahead of a patent troll in number of patches to the Linux kernel. [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [05:01] schestowitz[TR2] ssl added https://news.tuxmachines.org/ [05:01] TR Bot NO TITLE [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] self-signed, 10 years [05:06] TR News BBS with Gemtext Frontend (idea) gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220718.gmi [05:06] phanes self-signed only works for non-public networks [05:07] TR News [nonsystemd] NetworkManager, dbus and display managers require manual intervention https://www.parabola.nu/news/nonsystemd-networkmanager-dbus-and-display-managers-require-manual-intervention/ [05:07] TR Bot Parabola GNU/Linux-libre - News: [nonsystemd] NetworkManager, dbus and display managers require manual intervention [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] you can bypass Gulag warning you [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] don't let them swallow all the "trust" [05:08] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [05:08] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, by default it'll serve over port 80 [05:18] phanes eek [05:19] phanes also its kind of bullshit to publish a private message correspondence without the other party's permission. I assume you didn't know better. [05:20] phanes i had contingencies to rely on that worked out well but you could have blown my campaign [05:26] DaemonFC Well shit. Walmart doesn't carry Korean chili pepper flakes anymore. [05:26] DaemonFC Had to go to Amazon. [05:27] DaemonFC you can bypass Gulag warning you [05:27] DaemonFC FAILfox too. [05:29] phanes im confused about the utlity of that [05:31] DaemonFC I have some Gochujang sauce. [05:31] DaemonFC I wonder if I can use that instead of "Korean hot pepper paste". [05:31] DaemonFC I'm trying to make budae jjigae. [05:40] DaemonFC Hmm, and Walmart is out of jalapeno peppers too. Guess I'll just use serrano peppers. [05:40] DaemonFC :/ [05:40] DaemonFC Man, this "supply shortage" is bullshit. [05:43] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC> FAILfox too [05:43] schestowitz[TR2] That's Gulag also [05:56] DaemonFC Yeah. [05:56] DaemonFC A reanimated corpse with Google's hand up the ass. [05:56] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.sat24.com/en/forecastimages [05:56] TR Bot forecast Weather Europe, Satellite Weather Europe, Weather Forecast, Rainfall, Clouds, Sun in Europe - SAT24.com [05:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I've been browsing in Lynx when I can get away with doing it. [05:57] DaemonFC I've been trying to figure out how to make "Ignore Cookies" stick. [05:57] DaemonFC It only wants to allow cookies or ask each time. :/ [05:57] DaemonFC Cookies don't make much sense if you can't log into anything really anyway [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] right [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] but they sell data [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] so you are iMPLICITLY logged in [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] then they cann compare cookies with other sites [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] and figure out your real id\ [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] even if you just read some random news sites [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] they know who are arew [05:58] schestowitz[TR2] bbl [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [06:24] DaemonFC http://toastytech.com/guis/win11.html [06:24] TR Bot Windows 11 Screen Shots [06:24] DaemonFC It finally happened. [06:25] DaemonFC "the task bar no longer allows an option to to have ungrouped icons like earlier versions of Windows did" [06:25] DaemonFC LOL [06:25] DaemonFC That's pretty dumb. [06:26] DaemonFC "There is a weather "widget" on the task bar, right where the start menu should be, so everyone is going to click it. And look what it does. This seeming innocuous weather widget is a gateway to mindless clickbait shit." [06:28] DaemonFC Pressing print screen gives you an ad for OneDrive. [06:28] DaemonFC That actually happened to me in Windows 10. [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:39] *Redfoxmoon_ (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [06:41] psydruid > i'm pretty sure i used C++ in a 120MHz Pentium with gcc [06:41] psydruid > (or djgpp) [06:41] psydruid My first PC had a Pentium 200 MMX with 32 MB of RAM, which I later upgraded to 256 MB of RAM and gave to my sister. I used it for writing code for almost 4 years and never had the idea it was particularly slow. [06:41] psydruid Of course the next computer after that was 6 times faster, but that was still considered normal during those days. [06:41] *Redfoxmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:48] psydruid > [notice] baronhk.wordpress.com | Windows is still just a poorly debugged set of device drivers. BaronHK's Rants [06:48] psydruid I always say that Windows is a collection of APIs pretending to be an operating system, because it's much better if you let Linux or BSD handle the bare metal [06:49] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [06:50] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights [06:55] AdmFubar youalso can no longer move the task bar to any edge os the screen... it can pnly be at the bottom [06:58] psydruid > MinceR: to my knowledge, the Elbrus CPU from the russians seems to be an Itanium clone (not sure) [06:58] psydruid Elbrus was far ahead of Itanium and survives until today, which can't be said about Itanium. Intel could probably devise a new ISA, but they've managed to screw up so many times now that they'd better stick with (poisoning) RISC-V. 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:31] *KiKi has quit (connection closed) [09:33] phanes in all fairness to that one, he was socially admonished briefly for it, not for the action's moral disposition but because it compromised their PR effort and detracted from their credibility, and actually had some people around who knew jack shit about how that stuff works [09:37] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [09:37] *Now talking on #techrights [09:37] *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. 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Now I have reached to middle of my outreachy internship. This blog post will throw some light on my journey till now" https://dev.to/redoca2k/outreachy-mid-way-blog-post-3nck [10:03] TR Bot Outreachy: Mid way blog post - DEV Community [10:04] Ariadne i would just like to say that i hate JunOS [10:05] TR News Qt is now misframing the subject of software freedom by pretending it's about "Ability to Modify... Source Code" https://www.qt.io/blog/can-i-modify-qt-source-code [10:05] TR Bot The Ability to Modify the Qt Source Code - Does it Matter? [10:05] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: they recently had severe security bugs [10:05] schestowitz[TR2] https://thehackernews.com/2022/07/juniper-releases-patches-for-critical.html [10:05] TR Bot Juniper Releases Patches for Critical Flaws in Junos OS and Contrail Networking The Hacker News [10:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/14/juniper-networks-releases-security-updates-multiple-products-1 [10:06] TR Bot Juniper Networks Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA [10:06] Ariadne yes [10:06] Ariadne i know [10:06] Ariadne i was patching [10:06] Ariadne > The Ability to Modify the Qt Source Code - Does it Matter? [10:06] Ariadne matters to me [10:07] schestowitz[TR2] right, but they belittle it [10:07] schestowitz[TR2] as qt became "closed source" [10:07] Ariadne isn't it great that we are stuck with a toolkit that is not really FOSS, and a toolkit that is maintained by GNOME [10:08] Ariadne sure makes me glad i moved on from maintaining desktop apps [10:09] schestowitz[TR2] audacious moved to qt [10:09] Ariadne i know, i ported it [10:09] Ariadne because GTK3 pissed me off [10:09] schestowitz[TR2] winamp-style UI feels non-qt [10:09] schestowitz[TR2] maybe old version [10:09] Ariadne that got ported to qt later [10:10] schestowitz[TR2] I worked with gtk and qt [10:10] schestowitz[TR2] but different points in time [10:10] TR News CrowPi L Raspberry Pi 4 laptop review - Part 1: Unboxing and teardown Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167401 [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] "Audacious was originally based on the X Multimedia System (XMMS) via its [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] GTK+ 2.x port Beep Media Player (BMP). Audacious has changed quite a bit [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] since its first release, however, and little XMMS/BMP code remains." [10:11] TR Bot CrowPi L Raspberry Pi 4 laptop review - Part 1: Unboxing and teardown | Tux Machines [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] "The Audacious project began in 2005 under the leadership of William Pitcock [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] (nenolod)." [10:12] Ariadne ah your version is old [10:13] schestowitz[TR2] yes, they still package old builds [10:13] schestowitz[TR2] kde neon [10:13] schestowitz[TR2] ltestr [10:13] schestowitz[TR2] *latest [10:19] Ariadne new infrastructure (ampere) is basically physically set up [10:19] Ariadne we should figure out how to rebuild techrights on it [10:19] Ariadne so i can decommission the x86 stuff [10:19] Ariadne :D [10:19] schestowitz[TR2] we've started with tuxmachines [10:19] schestowitz[TR2] git, apache, ssl [10:20] Ariadne https://cache.treehouse.systems/media_attachments/files/108/670/564/056/447/354/original/ee63c722e9a29f01.png [10:20] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/07/15/google-follows-suit-with-microsoft-on-ampere-arm-instances/ [10:20] TR Bot Google Follows Suit With Microsoft On Ampere Arm Instances [10:21] Ariadne new machines [10:21] schestowitz[TR2] https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-for-google-clouds-arm-based-t2a-virtual-machines [10:21] TR Bot Ubuntu for Google Clouds Arm-based T2A virtual machines | Ubuntu [10:21] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167402 [10:21] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:21] Ariadne yep same hardware as those guys [10:21] TR News Links 19/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.1.1 and Ubuntu 21.10 End of Life | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/ubuntu-21-10-end-of-life/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/ubuntu-21-10-end-of-life/ [10:21] TR Bot Links 19/07/2022: Qubes OS 4.1.1 and Ubuntu 21.10 End of Life | Techrights [10:22] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [10:22] schestowitz[TR2] afaIK, THEY'RE LIKE 10,00 USD [10:22] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@jawmghtt3yqu6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:22] schestowitz[TR2] OOPS, CAPS. 10,000 [10:23] schestowitz[TR2] wow, 160 cpu cores? [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] aarch64 [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] "Linux misery" [10:24] schestowitz[TR2] "take me out of this misery" [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] cpu scaling from 1ghz to 3.3 [10:25] *schestowitz[TR2] checks the raspi clock speed [10:26] schestowitz[TR2] 0.6 to 1.5 [10:26] schestowitz[TR2] ghz [10:26] schestowitz[TR2] cotex a72 [10:26] schestowitz[TR2] *cortex [10:34] TR News Geniatechs SBC taps Rockchip SoC and runs on Android 11 & Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167403 [10:34] TR Bot Geniatechs SBC taps Rockchip SoC and runs on Android 11 & Debian | Tux Machines [10:36] TR News The Benot Battistelli- and Antnio Campinos-elevated Frenchman, who insiders believe will push illegal software patents to make anther bubble, has a parallel career http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/razik-the-man-of-letters/ [10:36] TR Bot The EPO Bubble Part VII A Multifaceted Man of Letters | Techrights [10:37] TR News The den of nepotism and despotism, led by Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos (shown above), is in denial about the direction in which its heading (burning laws, constitutions and treaties for a short-term money-grebbing expedition) http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-terminator-meme/ [10:37] TR Bot [Meme] Bubble Schwabble | Techrights [10:38] TR News 6 Best Free and Open Source C++ Static Site Generators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167404 [10:38] TR Bot 6 Best Free and Open Source C++ Static Site Generators | Tux Machines [10:39] TR News Microsoft is poor man's ALMOST-Email https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-investigates-ongoing-exchange-online-outlook-outage/ [10:39] TR Bot Microsoft investigates ongoing Exchange Online, Outlook outage [10:39] TR News Microsoft is all about the sharing. Choosing Microsoft means sharing all your data with crackers. [10:40] TR News You install the latest NSA back doors and your system breaks https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-patch-tuesday-update-has-broken-another-really-important-software [10:40] TR Bot Patch Tuesday update has broken another really important software | TechRadar [10:41] TR News Legislative Brief on Digital Rights for Monsoon Session 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-monsoon-session-2022/ Source: internetfreedom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/legislative-brief-monsoon-session-2022/ [10:41] TR Bot Legislative Brief on Digital Rights for Monsoon Session 2022 [10:43] psydroid2 Microsoft's poor man's malware doesn't even work on ARM, other than Windows Server and 10/11 with a limited set of applications that just doesn't cut it [10:44] psydroid2 and there Ampere stuff only hits like 200W per CPU in comparison with the latest Intel and AMD stuff that is going into hundreds of watss [10:44] psydroid2 the* [10:44] schestowitz[TR2] you said 700w even [10:44] schestowitz[TR2] for some systems with GPUs [10:44] schestowitz[TR2] the very old, first computers took a lot of power also [10:44] psydroid2 yes, it's crazy [10:44] schestowitz[TR2] but it's understandabble [10:45] schestowitz[TR2] considered how they propagated signals [10:45] schestowitz[TR2] pre-semiconduectors [10:46] psydroid2 in the modern era x86 has become the equivalent of an SUV [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] because "games" [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] and "web" [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] CNN with 30 domains queries [10:47] schestowitz[TR2] for a 3-paragraph article of text [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] and 3 fonts [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] one proprietary font for the headlinea [10:48] schestowitz[TR2] and then a couple more..., for god-knows-what.. [10:48] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167405 [10:48] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights [10:59] DaemonFC I have a Microsoft email address that's so old, it goes back to before they bought Hotmail. [10:59] DaemonFC It still works. ● Jul 19 [11:00] DaemonFC Before they bought Hotmail, you could log in with damned near anything, as long as it supported cookies. [11:00] DaemonFC Now it's one of those horrific spaghetti code Web apps, and if it doesn't like what it thinks your browser is, you get a fallback site that looks like the "Windows Live Mail" era. [11:01] schestowitz[TR2] email address is not an asset [11:01] schestowitz[TR2] esp. if the doamin is not yours [11:01] schestowitz[TR2] some isp of spying firm [11:09] TR News Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ [11:09] TR Bot Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights [11:13] *matey (~matey@s3gpcdb5iajbw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:14] matey did mjg ever work for salesforce? [11:25] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [11:27] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:28] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [11:34] mjg59_ matey: Nope [11:34] mjg59_ Dated someone who worked for a company salesforce acquired, I think that's the closest I got [11:36] *matey has quit (connection closed) [11:53] TR News "The team behind Asahi Linux have announced that the distribution runs on the M1 Ultra" https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/453074-asahi-linux-runs-on-apple-m2-machines.html | Source: South Africa [11:53] TR Bot Asahi Linux runs on Apple M2 machines [11:53] TR News "The team behind Asahi Linux have announced that the distribution runs on the M1 Ultra" https://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/453074-asahi-linux-runs-on-apple-m2-machines.html | Source: South Africa [11:54] TR News "Although it's been one of the leading distros for over 20 years Debian..." https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/disentangling_the_debian_derivatives/ | Source: The Register UK [11:54] TR Bot Disentangling Debian derivatives to discern your default The Register [11:55] TR News Education https://blog.archive.org/2022/07/08/internet-archive-seeks-summary-judgment-in-federal-lawsuit-filed-by-publishing-companies/ | Source: Internet Archive [11:55] TR Bot Internet Archive Seeks Summary Judgment in Federal Lawsuit Filed By Publishing Companies - Internet Archive Blogs ● Jul 19 [12:03] TR News Openwashing is a lying strategy https://analyticsindiamag.com/is-microsofts-vs-code-really-open-source/ | [12:03] TR Bot Is Microsoft's VS Code really open source? [12:03] TR News Surveillance https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ice-dhs-privacy-location-data-aclu-1384797/ | Source: Rolling Stone [12:03] TR Bot DHS, ICE Buying Up Massive Troves of Cell Phone Location Data -- ACLU - Rolling Stone [12:03] TR News "The chilling incident is among a series of violent threats recently that have targeted political figures and comes amid a shifting landscape in which the share of partisans who think violence is sometimes justified to achieve political ends has grown significantly." https://thehill.com/regulation/3561521-growing-support-for-political-violence-raises-alarms/ | Source: The Hill [12:03] TR Bot Growing support for political violence raises alarms | The Hill [12:04] TR News "As the country becomes more racially diverse, younger, forward thinking and pluralistic, the American right wing is attempting to force the country back to the 19th century and the Gilded Age." https://www.salon.com/2022/07/18/joe-walshs-maga-warning-if-is-indicted-expect-major-violence/ | Source: Salon [12:04] TR Bot Walsh's MAGA warning: If Trump is indicted, expect "major violence" | Salon.com [12:06] TR News "Demand and supply." https://www.computerworld.com/article/3667373/why-tim-cook-is-concerned-about-coding-skills.html | Source: Computer World [12:06] TR Bot Tim Cook is concerned about coding skills | Computerworld [12:06] TR News CISA: Microsoft apologists and boosters https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3564438-cisa-announces-launch-of-london-bureau/ | Source: The Hill [12:06] TR Bot CISA announces launch of London bureau | The Hill [12:07] TR News "In a remarkable brief filed on July 7 in their ongoing lawsuit" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/internet-archive-lawsuit-libraries/ | Source: The Nation [12:07] TR Bot You Cant Buy These Books | The Nation [12:09] TR News Uber should not even exist. It needs to be wiped and its executives prosecuted. https://thehill.com/homenews/3564753-uber-to-pay-millions-to-settle-lawsuit-for-overcharging-customers-with-disabilities/ | Source: The Hill [12:09] TR Bot Uber to pay millions to settle lawsuit for overcharging customers with disabilities | The Hill [12:09] TR News "Uber has settled with the Department of Justice" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/18/23268757/uber-disabled-riders-wait-waiver-lawsuit-settlement-ada-wheelchair | Source: The Verge [12:09] TR Bot Uber will pay over $2 million to disabled riders after federal settlement - The Verge [12:09] TR News "Two U.S. Senate Democrats active in internet issues are working on a bill" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/u-s-senate-democrats-plan-bill-aiming-to-restore-net-neutrality/92970319 | Source: India Times [12:09] TR Bot Net neutrality: U.S. Senate Democrats plan bill aiming to restore 'net neutrality', CIO News, ET CIO [12:10] TR News "Net Neutrality and Broadband Justice Act" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/18/23268767/net-neutrality-broadband-internet-democrats-ajit-pai-fcc-gigi-sohn | Source: The Verge [12:10] TR Bot Democrats prepare bill that would codify net neutrality - The Verge [12:10] TR News "Lawmakers plan to introduce the bill in coming weeks" https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/18/democrats-plan-sweeping-net-neutrality-bill-fcc-majority-stalls/ | Source: The Washington Post [12:10] TR Bot Democrats plan sweeping net neutrality bill as FCC majority stalls - The Washington Post [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [12:10] TR News Netflix shows Digital Restrictions (DRM) is dead end https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3564556-netflix-braces-for-critical-earnings-call-after-challenging-year/ | Source: The Hill [12:10] TR Bot Netflix braces for critical earnings call after challenging year | The Hill [12:13] TR News DoD wants to ban people "disloyal" to Pentagon? The US Military Wants To Understand The Most Important Software On Earth - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/07/17/1443218 Source: soylentnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/07/17/1443218 [12:13] TR Bot The US Military Wants To Understand The Most Important Software On Earth - SoylentNews [12:15] TR News "Some of the key areas that have witnessed great changes include:" https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-in-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint [12:15] TR Bot How to Install Latest Wine in Ubuntu Linux [12:15] TR News "Wine 7.0 is finally released and it comes with an array of numerous enhancements" https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-on-ubuntu-and-linux-mint/ | Source: TecMint [12:15] TR Bot How to Install Wine on Debian, Ubuntu and Linux Mint [12:15] TR News "Recently, the Wine team proudly announced the stable release of 7.0 and made available" https://www.tecmint.com/install-wine-in-rhel-centos-and-fedora/ | Source: TecMint [12:15] TR Bot How to Install Wine on RHEL-based Linux Distributions [12:16] TR News "Exanima is an unforgiving 3D isometric RPG set in an original dark, low fantasy world." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/exanima-gets-vastly-improved-linux-and-steam-deck-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:16] TR Bot gets vastly improved Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux [12:16] TR News "Tesla and Steam? It's coming and it sounds like it's progressing nicely with a demo to come soon" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/tesla-to-demo-steam-for-more-in-car-gaming-soon-using-linux-proton/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:16] TR Bot to demo Steam for more in-car gaming soon using Linux & Proton | GamingOnLinux [12:16] TR News "There is another open source software available called PlayOnLinux that uses Wine" https://www.tecmint.com/playonlinux-install-windows-software-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint [12:16] TR Bot PlayOnLinux Run Windows Software and Games in Linux [12:19] TR News "Point Rescue Arcade is a game that very much leans into the experience you might have had" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/relive-memories-of-going-to-the-arcade-in-point-rescue-arcade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:19] TR Bot memories of going to the arcade in Point Rescue Arcade | GamingOnLinux [12:20] TR News "ownCloud is free and open-source software written in PHP thats used for data synchronization and file sharing." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-owncloud-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting [12:20] TR Bot to Install ownCloud on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting [12:20] TR News "KDE Plasma is the graphical workspace environment that is created by KDE for Linux systems." https://vitux.com/how-to-install-kde-plasma-on-debian/ | Source: Vitux [12:20] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://vitux.com/how-to-install-kde-plasma-on-debian/ ) [12:21] TR News "Fully playable but they're not done yet." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/fheroes2-game-engine-for-heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-gets-even-more-ai-upgrades/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:21] TR Bot game engine for Heroes of Might and Magic II gets even more AI upgrades | GamingOnLinux [12:23] TR News "It is crucial to monitor the availability of your website if you do not want your readers/customers to go away." https://linuxhandbook.com/downtime-monitoring-services/ | Source: Linux Handbook [12:23] TR Bot 9 Best Free Website Downtime Monitoring Services [12:23] TR News "The find command in Linux is an excellent tool to find files and directories based on given criteria." https://linuxhandbook.com/find-exec-command/ | Source: Linux Handbook [12:23] TR Bot Find Exec Command in Linux: 9 Useful Examples [12:27] DaemonFC Jesus! [12:27] DaemonFC I just looked at the price of potatoes. :/ [12:27] DaemonFC They've almost doubled. [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:30] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [12:31] TR News "Sleeper Games have revealed their latest game with Swirl W@tch" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/swirl-wtch-is-a-blindly-vibrant-upcoming-stealth-action-rogue-lite/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:31] TR Bot W@tch is a blindly-vibrant upcoming stealth-action rogue-lite | GamingOnLinux [12:31] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: we got some half price yesterday [12:32] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/07/16/former-substitute-teacher-in-algonquin-pleads-guilty-to-sending-sexually-explicit-message-to-student/ [12:32] TR Bot Former substitute teacher in Algonquin pleads guilty to sending sexually explicit message to student [12:32] TR News "Want to get rid of the whine that certain models of Steam Deck have with their fan?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/ifixit-have-the-steam-deck-fan-in-stock-if-youre-in-the-us/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:32] TR Bot have the Steam Deck Fan in stock if you're in the U.S. | GamingOnLinux [12:33] TR News Hellpoint: Blue Sun https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/souls-like-game-hellpoint-blue-sun-major-expansion-dlc-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:33] TR Bot game Hellpoint: Blue Sun major expansion DLC is out now | GamingOnLinux [12:34] TR News Observing Sound Waves Up Close gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1081 [12:35] *CParadoxum___ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:35] TR News "At lunch I met 3 Polish-speaking young women, one from Germany, one from somewhere else in Poland, and one from Biaystok. They seem very nice if a little insular, i.e. they are more comfortable speaking Polish to each other rather than English to the rest of us, and I cant blame them." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1658220533 [12:36] DaemonFC Hey!!! ChatZilla is back. :) [12:36] TR News "Thrive is a free and open source science-based game about evolution, currently allowing you to swim around as a little cell and attempt to survive." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-gets-procedural-maps-better-gameplay/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:36] TR Bot source evolution sim Thrive gets procedural maps, better gameplay | GamingOnLinux [12:38] TR News "The Heroic Games Launcher for Epic Games and GOG on Linux has a huge new Beta release" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/heroic-games-launcher-adds-gog-cloud-saves-epic-overlay-support-anti-cheat-helpers/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:38] TR Bot Games Launcher adds GOG Cloud Saves, Epic Overlay support, anti-cheat helpers | GamingOnLinux [12:39] TR News "Wine 7.13 rolled out just before the weekend rolled in" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/wine-713-rolled-out-recently-continuing-the-pe-conversion/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:39] TR Bot 7.13 rolled out recently continuing the PE conversion | GamingOnLinux [12:39] SomeH4x0r s/anti-cheat/rootkit/ [12:40] TR News Top 10 Features of Linux Mint 21 "Vanessa" [Featured] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167406 [12:40] TR Bot Top 10 Features of Linux Mint 21 "Vanessa" [Featured] | Tux Machines [12:40] schestowitz[TR2] SomeH4x0r: right :-) [12:41] TR News CentOS, which IBM does not want anymore (except as another Fedora), is being left behind as we move everything to Alpine http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/site-migration-alpine/ [12:41] TR Bot Site Migration Has Begun | Techrights [12:41] TR News "Dead Cells is the absolutely brilliant game from Motion Twin and Evil Empire." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/dead-cells-has-an-exciting-roadmap-ahead-as-its-far-from-finished/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:41] TR Bot Cells has an exciting roadmap ahead as it's far from finished | GamingOnLinux [12:42] TR News "There's been a lot of talk about the Steam Deck and SD Cards lately around hot swapping and apparently bricked SD Cards" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/hot-swapping-sd-cards-on-steam-deck-is-okay-but-valve-plans-improvements/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [12:42] TR Bot swapping SD Cards on Steam Deck is okay but Valve plans improvements | GamingOnLinux [12:42] TR News "This SBC implements the Rockchip RK3566 which is a four core Cortex-A55 processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [12:42] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ ) [12:43] TR News "This year SCALE, the community-focused Southern California Linux Expo, is back" https://fossforce.com/2022/07/scale-returns-celebrate-20th-birthday/ | Source: Unicorn Media [12:43] TR Bot SCaLE Returns to Celebrate Its 20th Birthday July 28-31 - FOSS Force [12:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:46] *DaemonFC (~chatzilla@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights [12:47] TR News "Explain it to me like I'm five." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/event-driven-architecture-coloring-book | Source: OpenSource.com [12:47] TR Bot architecture explained in a coloring book | Opensource.com [12:48] TR News "I've written, used, and seen a lot of loose scripts in my career." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/bootstrap-python-command-line-application | Source: OpenSource.com [12:48] TR Bot your Python script into a command-line application | Opensource.com [12:48] TR News "Who wants to create their first UI app?" https://opensource.com/article/22/7/code-first-react-app | Source: OpenSource.com [12:48] TR Bot your first React UI app | Opensource.com [12:49] TR News "The aid group Oxfam International estimated Monday that a mere two weeks of wealth gains recently secured by global food billionaires would be enough to fully fund the United Nations' multibillion-dollar effort to combat hunger in East Africa" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/just-two-weeks-food-billionaire-wealth-gains-could-fund-anti-hunger-effort-east | Source: Common Dreams [12:49] TR Bot Just Two Weeks of Food Billionaire Wealth Gains Could Fund Anti-Hunger Effort in East Africa [12:51] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [12:53] *DaemonFC_ (~chatzilla@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights [12:53] schestowitz[TR2] wanna see draft? [12:54] *DaemonFC_ is now known as DaemonFC [12:54] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: you might know more [12:54] schestowitz[TR2] abnout us law [12:54] DaemonFC sure [12:54] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ [12:54] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIV Using Microsoft Money as Get Out of Jail Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights [12:55] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.13 [SeaMonkey 2.53.13/20220708150114]) [12:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights [12:56] DaemonFC Strangler? [12:56] DaemonFC What did he do? [12:56] schestowitz[TR2] click [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [13:00] TR News Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIV Using Microsoft Money as Get Out of Jail Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ [13:04] TR News Games: Stesm, Heroic Games Launcher, and Free Sofwtare Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167407 [13:04] TR Bot Games: Stesm, Heroic Games Launcher, and Free Sofwtare | Tux Machines [13:04] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@jawmghtt3yqu6.irc) has joined #techrights [13:06] DaemonFC https://news.sky.com/story/new-research-suggests-gonorrhoea-is-why-we-have-grandparents-12654862 [13:06] TR Bot Gonorrhoea is why we have grandparents, research suggests | Science & Tech News | Sky News [13:06] DaemonFC Ah yes, the oldest and bestest democracy on Earth. I'd recognize it anywhere! [13:07] schestowitz[TR2] weird headline [13:07] schestowitz[TR2] obv. clickbait [13:07] schestowitz[TR2] sky [13:07] schestowitz[TR2] almost murdoch [13:08] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Did you see that woman on Sky yesterday blasting pop music so the guy she was interviewing couldn't talk about global warming and the heat wave in the UK killing hundreds or thousands of people. [13:09] DaemonFC I also learned "there was a heat wave in 1976, so global warming has been blown way out of proportion". [13:09] DaemonFC Idiocracy UK [13:09] DaemonFC Welcome to Costco. I love you! [13:09] schestowitz[TR2] it is common sense [13:10] schestowitz[TR2] like I said, sky is a joke [13:11] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [13:18] DaemonFC https://abcnews.go.com/US/houston-tv-station-loses-power-discussing-blackouts-air/story?id=86811735 [13:18] TR Bot Houston TV station loses power while discussing blackouts on air - ABC News [13:18] DaemonFC ERCOT. That's "Reliability Council" you know. :) [13:18] DaemonFC Good old ERCOT, keeping the grid on. [13:19] DaemonFC Musk probably worked out some deal where the Tesla factory gets all the power routed to it while people bake or freeze to death. [13:21] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [13:21] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [13:21] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [13:21] DaemonFC IBM says it will be 92 today. [13:22] DaemonFC Chilly Weather on Gemini says 86. [13:22] MinceR 19 140728 < schestowitz[TR2]> almost murdoch [13:22] DaemonFC "Electric Reliability Council of Texas" [13:22] MinceR the best kind of murdoch! [13:23] DaemonFC Pray they don't make it more reliable I guess. [13:23] MinceR (except for "not murdoch", i guess) [13:23] DaemonFC Who knew it got hot in Texas in July? [13:23] DaemonFC Texas in October is like Illinois in July. [13:24] schestowitz[TR2] mancity is in texas now [13:24] schestowitz[TR2] new video: [13:24] DaemonFC You have to wait until December or January to go to Texas and be comfortable. [13:24] DaemonFC Then it's usually between 60-75. [13:24] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/training-18-july-hard-work-in-houston-63793782 [13:24] TR Bot Training: Hard work in Houston [13:24] schestowitz[TR2] ice baths [13:24] DaemonFC Fuck cold showers. [13:25] DaemonFC AIR CONDITIONER MOTHERFUCKER! [13:25] DaemonFC (Samuel L. Jackson voice) [13:25] DaemonFC I don't know how it stays this humid in my apartment. [13:26] DaemonFC That dehumidifier and the air conditioner must remove 3 gallons of water per day, and it's not even a big apartment. [13:27] DaemonFC It gets truly miserable in here without the dehumidifier going. [13:27] DaemonFC It can get up to 90% relative humidity and then the walls start sweating. [13:28] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], My air conditioner still uses R-12. [13:28] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: I've opened both doors [13:28] schestowitz[TR2] I'm outside withput being outside [13:29] schestowitz[TR2] but tomorrow is cools down a lot (already) [13:29] DaemonFC Probably costs a lot to run your air conditioner because it's Europe. [13:30] schestowitz[TR2] most of us dopn't have a/c [13:30] DaemonFC Unfortunately, the idiots who don't know anything about anything have taken over the US too. [13:30] schestowitz[TR2] except maybe france, spain.. [13:30] schestowitz[TR2] italy [13:30] DaemonFC Do you want coal? Nope! Okay, how about a nuclear plant? Nope! [13:30] DaemonFC Here's a bunch of wind. Wind stops blowing. Power goes out during heat wave. [13:30] TR News "an online service known as 911 has sold access to hundreds of thousands" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/07/a-deep-dive-into-the-residential-proxy-service-911/ | Source: Krebs On Security [13:30] TR Bot A Deep Dive Into the Residential Proxy Service 911 Krebs on Security [13:31] TR News India vs encryption https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/eff-and-partners-urge-indian-government-keep-end-end-encryption-alive | Source: EFF [13:31] TR Bot EFF and Partners Urge the Indian Government to Keep End-to-End Encryption Alive | Electronic Frontier Foundation [13:31] DaemonFC I have no idea why everything is so expensive in Europe. [13:31] DaemonFC I wonder if it's just all the taxes from the corrupt politicians. [13:31] SomeH4x0r cuddlybear66 did install HoloIRC, but then it turned out not to display channel messages [13:31] DaemonFC That can certainly make a difference in how expensive a US state is to live in. [13:32] DaemonFC Take Illinois, California, and New York. Crooked politicians taking all your money and pissing it down a rat hole. [13:32] DaemonFC You never see it again. Your life gets no better. [13:33] DaemonFC I doubt Governor Pritzker is going to survive this election, or if he does it'll be by a couple percent. [13:33] DaemonFC Everyone in the US is pissed right now. [13:34] MinceR 19 143141 < SomeH4x0r> cuddlybear66 did install HoloIRC, but then it turned out not to display channel messages [13:34] MinceR who needs that in IRC? :> [13:34] DaemonFC https://morningconsult.com/2022/07/13/recession-outlook-us-economy-data/ [13:34] TR Bot Are We in a Recession? 2 in 3 Voters Say Yes - Morning Consult [13:35] schestowitz[TR2] define "Recession?" [13:35] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], The media narrative is there's no reason for there to be a recession in the US other than "people believing there will be one". [13:35] DaemonFC That may well make one worse, but there's one regardless. [13:35] schestowitz[TR2] whose media? [13:35] schestowitz[TR2] "well he's dead" bill? [13:35] *CrystalMath (~coderain@jphct4zj8vt3w.irc) has joined #techrights [13:35] DaemonFC Two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth is the usual definition of a recession. [13:36] DaemonFC We're already there. [13:36] DaemonFC -1.9 and -1.6, according to the BLS. [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] so steal savers' money [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] make them "investors" [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] and force them to "investt" in GAFAM [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] to prop up share prices [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] more gambling [13:36] schestowitz[TR2] taller pyramid [13:37] DaemonFC The screaming is also "It's all the fault of the poors for not fucking enough.....MAKE MORE KIDS!". [13:38] DaemonFC Which is the real reason abortion was overturned. [13:38] MinceR lol [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] "get a THIRD job!" [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] bill g worked 3 jhobs [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] lolita elexpress flights [13:38] MinceR bill g worked? [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] PR for jeff [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] and microsoft board [13:38] schestowitz[TR2] ioh, that 'charity' [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] no, that's just for bring nmedia [13:39] MinceR i thought he just ripped people off and bossed others around [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] so they don't focus on some of his 'jobs' [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] he got many 'jobs' [13:39] MinceR oh, and spewed bullshit in the media [13:39] DaemonFC Past-tense? [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] they try to make it present [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] billl gates says [13:39] DaemonFC He'll be spewing bullshit in the media until he dies. [13:39] DaemonFC Billshit. Bill Sez. [13:39] schestowitz[TR2] bill gates said, well, he's dead [13:40] schestowitz[TR2] he pays the media to do this [13:40] DaemonFC In his mind, the fact that Epstein is dead changes something? [13:40] TR News The Great Leveler https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/18/great-crisis-21st-century-hijacked-democracies-propaganda-and-rebellions | Source: Common Dreams [13:40] TR Bot Opinion | The Great Crisis of the 21st Century: Hijacked Democracies, Propaganda, and Rebellions | Jorge Majfud [13:41] TR News The "Great Reset" should have them in a firing line? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/just-27-billionaires-have-spent-90-million-buy-gop-congress-report | Source: Common Dreams [13:41] TR Bot Just 27 Billionaires Have Spent $90 Million to Buy GOP Congress: Report [13:42] schestowitz[TR2] class abortion [13:42] DaemonFC The fact that Biden really hasn't changed anything AND thought he'd just sneak an anti-abortion Republican judge onto the federal bench, why does Communist Dreams even care which party wins now? [13:42] schestowitz[TR2] pro-choice [13:43] schestowitz[TR2] s Communist Dreams" does care [13:43] MinceR "i still do, but i used to, too." [13:43] schestowitz[TR2] "Communist Dreams" is upset at Bioden [13:43] schestowitz[TR2] and said all along he'd suck [13:43] schestowitz[TR2] and still it was a priority to get Trump OUT [13:44] schestowitz[TR2] "Communist Dreams supported Sanders [13:45] DaemonFC Getting Trump out may have caused harm. [13:45] DaemonFC By putting Biden in there and allowing the Trump supporters to call him a liberal, guess what.... [13:46] DaemonFC People now see Biden=Liberal and don't like what's going on. [13:46] schestowitz[TR2] liberal who gave patrior act ;-) [13:47] TR News "Broadband internet is a necessity, not a luxury" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/18/advocates-welcome-new-push-incredibly-important-net-neutrality-bill | Source: Common Dreams [13:47] TR Bot Advocates Welcome New Push for 'Incredibly Important' Net Neutrality Bill [13:47] TR News "considers" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/19/biden-considers-declaring-climate-emergency-amid-heat-apocalypse | Source: Common Dreams [13:47] TR Bot Biden Considers Declaring Climate Emergency Amid 'Heat Apocalypse' [13:47] schestowitz[TR2] maybe in 10 years they will "seriously consider" [13:49] TR News "What do you do with those old Android or iPhone phones and tablets?" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/quick-hack-the-phone-to-stream-deck-conversion/ | Source: Hackaday [13:49] TR Bot Hack: The Phone To Stream Deck Conversion | Hackaday [13:54] DaemonFC https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20930 [13:54] TR Bot ROS 0.4.14 LiveCD flagged by Windows Defender - ReactOS Forum ● Jul 19 [14:00] TR News Commodore recycled https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/the-commodore-64-smartwatch-can-now-sync-with-your-commodore-64-desktop/ | Source: Hackaday [14:00] TR Bot Commodore 64 Smartwatch Can Now Sync With Your Commodore 64 Desktop | Hackaday [14:00] schestowitz[TR2] it is defending windows [14:00] schestowitz[TR2] from alternatives to windows [14:01] TR News Hackaday starts publishing sponsored SPAM https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/print-your-own-drill-guide-without-a-linear-bearing/ | Source: Hackaday [14:01] TR Bot Your Own Drill Guide Without A Linear Bearing | Hackaday [14:02] *superkuh has quit (Changing host) [14:02] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [14:05] TR News "did not seem to perturb the leaders of some of the richest countries in the world. They still insist on not interfering in the global food market, though the skyrocketing prices have already pushed tens of millions of people below the poverty line" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/19/the-rise-of-brics-the-economic-giant-that-is-taking-on-the-west/ [14:05] TR Bot Rise of BRICS: The Economic Giant that is Taking on the West - CounterPunch.org [14:06] TR News "Very few retrocomputing projects are anything other than a labor of love." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/modular-z80-really-racks-up-the-retrocomputer-cred/ | Source: Hackaday [14:06] TR Bot Z80 Really Racks Up The Retrocomputer Cred | Hackaday [14:19] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@582xrhwbmd33y.irc) has joined #techrights [14:33] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:38] TR News Ubuntu 21.10 Has Reached End-of-Life, Upgrade Now! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167408 [14:38] TR Bot Ubuntu 21.10 Has Reached End-of-Life, Upgrade Now! | Tux Machines [14:38] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@2cs75akapmwvi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:39] TR News 14 Best Free and Open Source Linux System Monitoring Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167409 [14:39] TR Bot 14 Best Free and Open Source Linux System Monitoring Tools | Tux Machines [14:39] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167410 [14:39] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:41] TR News More unions https://truthout.org/articles/house-staffers-in-8-offices-file-to-form-first-ever-congressional-unions/ | Source: TruthOut [14:41] TR Bot House Staffers in 8 Offices File to Form First-Ever Congressional Unions [14:42] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:49] TR News "On Dec. 31, 2020, a 40-year-old man named Leon Casiquito walked into Kelly Liquors on Route 66 in Albuquerque and tried to shoplift a bottle of tequila." https://www.propublica.org/article/two-cities-took-different-approaches-to-pandemic-court-closures-they-got-different-results Pro Publica sponsor: Epstein's enabler! http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/ [14:49] TR Bot Two Cities Took Different Approaches to Pandemic Court Closures. 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ProPublica [14:49] TR Bot Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel | Techrights [14:50] TR News "Senator Ron Wyden and Representative Anna Eshoo are urging the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to take action against abusive and deceptive practices" https://torrentfreak.com/us-lawmakers-want-ftc-to-crack-down-on-overpromising-and-dishonest-vpns-220718/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:50] TR Bot Lawmakers Want FTC to Crack Down on Overpromising and Dishonest VPNs * TorrentFreak [14:50] *psymin_ (~psymin@69.146.8.222) has joined #techrights [14:50] TR News Clownflare as censor/chokeoint: "An Italian court has ordered Cloudflare to block three torrent sites on its public DNS resolver" https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-cloudflares-dns-resolver-1-1-1-1-to-block-pirate-sites-in-italy-220719/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:50] TR Bot Orders Cloudflare's DNS Resolver 1.1.1.1 to Block Pirate Sites in Italy * TorrentFreak [14:53] *psymin has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:54] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:54] *psymin_ has quit (Client Quit) [14:54] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [15:01] TR News "overproduced marketing videos" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/the-metaverse-could-change-the-world-if-we-could-stop-getting-in-its-way/ | Source: Techdirt [15:01] TR Bot Metaverse Could Change The World, If We Could Stop Getting In Its Way | Techdirt [15:03] TR News "propaganda mills like Fox News" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/u-s-consumers-pay-1600-annually-for-cable-tv-channels-they-dont-watch/ | Source: Techdirt [15:03] TR Bot Consumers Pay $1,600 Annually For Cable TV Channels They Dont Watch | Techdirt [15:03] TR News "open source license requirements" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/ortur-laser-will-go-open-source/ | Source: Hackaday [15:03] TR Bot Laser Will Go Open-Source | Hackaday [15:04] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:04] TR News "harmful content and protecting freedom of speech. 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Its been awhile" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/18/ring-cops-can-still-obtain-recordings-without-warrants-or-user-consent/ | Source: Techdirt [15:26] TR Bot Cops Can Still Obtain Recordings Without Warrants Or User Consent | Techdirt [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:50] TR News Links 19/07/2022: Microsoft is Offline Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/microsoft-offline-again/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/microsoft-offline-again/ [15:50] TR Bot Links 19/07/2022: Microsoft is Offline Again | Techrights ● Jul 19 [16:01] TR News Openwashing, Proprietary Microsoft, and Security Woes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167411 [16:01] TR Bot Openwashing, Proprietary Microsoft, and Security Woes | Tux Machines [16:01] TR News Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167412 [16:01] TR Bot Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:01] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167413 [16:01] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:01] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167414 [16:01] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [16:02] TR News SpellBinding: ABPKNOE Wordo: CHAFF gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-19.gmi [16:03] TR News The person behind Copilot is a highly perverted strangler and he was supported by Microsoft despite Microsoft knowing what he had done. Today we merely present some more evidence and we shall soon show how Microsoft handled the situation (it dealt with this as a routine, not a crisis, and kept paying the mobster/monster). http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/get-out-of-jail-with-microsoft/ [16:03] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXIV Using Microsoft Money as Get Out of Jail Card After Suffocating Women | Techrights [16:17] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:25] *bnchs (~bnchs@tmwh5kj2c9t3q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:51] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [17:11] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [17:11] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [17:30] XRevan86 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.56 [17:30] TR Bot 0.3.56 PipeWire / pipewire GitLab [17:41] bnchs lol [17:41] bnchs please block these sites on your dns provider [17:43] SomeH4x0r what sites? [17:46] schestowitz[TR2] gitlab fr the JS mess? [17:47] XRevan86 bnchs: FDO? [17:49] bnchs somehow my messages didn't get sent, i was making fun of the italian ISPs telling cloudflare to block torrent sites [17:51] XRevan86 bnchs: The message that did get sent came across as anti-PipeWire. [17:54] bnchs awkward [17:56] schestowitz[TR2] PipeWire is now connected to Microsoft [17:56] schestowitz[TR2] through PA [17:57] *matey (~matey@idg739xmgc2wa.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 19 [18:00] XRevan86 schestowitz: LibreOffice has been connected to Microsoft since day one, through Microsoft Office. [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] no [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] through go-oo [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] novell [18:01] XRevan86 They implement Microsoft's formats. [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] But OOOo was in danger because of the first O [18:01] schestowitz[TR2] oracle [18:01] phanes fuck oracle [18:02] matey and the second one [18:02] matey phanes, read the tso thing [18:02] matey unbelievable [18:02] TR News Jack Wallen , why are you promoting Microsoft crap? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/install-minecraft-server-ubuntu/ [18:02] TR Bot to install a Minecraft server on Ubuntu Server 22.04 | TechRepublic [18:02] matey (read = i read) [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] the w in sjw [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] is not what people think [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] it's warriors aainst social causesna [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] and they do injustice [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] some of the time [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] or most of the time it seems [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] the ones who wear the brand on their sleeve [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] by picking on the wrong targets\ [18:03] schestowitz[TR2] a [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] when it backifres [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] thye put off a lot of people [18:04] schestowitz[TR2] who would otherwise be spympathetic to actual social... justice [18:04] matey who doesnt like an inquistition? [18:04] matey who would otherwise be spympathetic <- or otherwise ARE sympathetic [18:05] matey but not to a fucking inquisition [18:05] matey when mjg advises you to word something differently [18:05] matey what he means is hes going to engage in character assassination later [18:06] matey its more of a threat than advice [18:06] XRevan86 Quite a turn from PipeWire implementing the PulseAudio interfaces. [18:06] matey of course i had a similar experience with you but [18:06] matey theres a nuance [18:07] matey its certainly not what you think it is [18:12] phanes matey: im not worried about that guy. ive been running circles around him the whole way through. anything he does to retaliate will backfire on him because lacks executive planning capabilities. [18:12] matey because lacks executive planning capabilities <- i dont think thats so [18:12] matey anything he does to retaliate will backfire on him <- that MAY be so [18:13] matey lacks executive planning <- i think its more accurate to say hes reactionary [18:13] matey i imagine he has a fair bit of executive planning skills [18:13] matey which may get short-circuited by being reactionary (sometimes) [18:13] matey which isnt the same [18:14] matey and underestimating an opponent never helps, even if you have it in the bag [18:14] phanes ive got alot of experience with with people like that, he's not the most dangerous by any means [18:15] phanes malicious certainly [18:15] matey i wasnt implying he was your worst nightmare [18:16] phanes i tipped him off to the feedback cycle so he's now in the corner staring [18:16] matey more to the point, what i said about being reactionary applies to a number of people like him [18:16] phanes it does yeah [18:16] matey and if its better not to underestimate your opponent, its better still not to underestimate a swath of them [18:16] matey but fwiw, i imagine you spend more time on strategy than i do [18:17] phanes some people need an army. some people are an army. [18:17] matey sometimes an army helps even if you are one [18:17] matey now you have two armies [18:17] phanes lol [18:17] matey i dated someone from the same place mjg hails from [18:18] matey she saw the american "army of one" posters [18:18] matey she thought they were hilarious [18:18] phanes what like army recruiting posters? [18:18] matey yeah [18:18] phanes yeah those are a riot [18:19] matey i mean ive got family in the armed forces [18:19] matey but they have a sense of humour too [18:20] matey and not everyone who signs up fails to become disillusioned [18:22] phanes idk, i think it might be good for some people when they're very young [18:22] phanes to in the armed forces [18:22] phanes *go [18:23] phanes man i hate this keyboard, it jams up constantly [18:23] matey military experience can be useful [18:23] matey it can also be expensive [18:26] XRevan86 CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-16-17-07-18 [18:26] TR Bot Dispatch for July 16-17 Telegraph [18:26] XRevan86 CIT: https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-18-07-19 [18:27] TR Bot Dispatch for July 18 Telegraph [18:27] bnchs hi matey [18:27] XRevan86 Wow, they've started translating to English. [18:27] bnchs you haven't been to digdeeper in a long time [18:27] *psydroid2 is proud of being called a scumbag the first time he went to Belfast [18:28] XRevan86 Conflict Intelligence Team are one of the better OSINT. [18:29] phanes I was trying to get into one of their partner groups but I can never find it [18:29] phanes Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:31] matey is proud of being called a scumbag the first time he went to Belfast <- theyre all proud scumbags afaict [18:31] matey i like most of them [18:32] XRevan86 phanes: Partner groups? [18:33] matey you haven't been to digdeeper in a long time <- i found nothing there [18:33] matey dd was alright [18:33] matey the guy [18:33] matey i dont stick around like im mining for bitcoin [18:33] matey if theres a reason, i stay-- if not, i go [18:34] matey i couldnt find anything [18:34] matey perhaps i missed one [18:35] phanes XRevan86: Yes, the Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team. Highly sought after, but difficult to locate. [18:35] phanes i think they mostly serve as negotiation points [18:35] matey part of the issue is i live in the future-- the present doesnt exite me [18:36] matey my associates also live in the future [18:36] matey metaphorically speaking [18:36] matey i DO love older tech [18:37] matey but even in the 80s i was thinking about dynamic typing, fpgas, files stored on chips [18:37] matey things that were more rare (or didnt exist yet) at the time [18:37] TR News You can liquid cool this Linux laptop to let the GPU soar http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167254#comment-34385 [18:37] TR Bot TUXEDO Aquaris Announced as First Water Cooling System for Linux Laptops | Tux Machines [18:37] matey i predicted a number of technologies. theyre all like the old tech, just a little bit different [18:37] matey i didnt see usb coming. but usb sticks? yes [18:37] matey i didnt see mp3 coming. but i did predict flac [18:38] matey i code and i dont have blue hair [18:38] bnchs matey: yeah glad you didn't come [18:38] matey though i actually like blue hair [18:38] matey not that particular hue though (when hers was blue) [18:39] matey matey: yeah glad you didn't come <- wow, did something happen [18:39] TR News How to use Docker from a Linux host system to escalate to root gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/use-docker-to-become-root.gmi [18:40] matey sorry to hear that [18:40] matey aww [18:40] matey fuck, me too [18:40] XRevan86 phanes: I suspect that's a joke, but I don't really get it. [18:41] matey ive left a lot of places right before tshtf [18:41] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/253288 [18:41] TR Bot Russia's No. 1 tennis player Daria Kasatkina comes out as gay [18:41] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/253306 [18:41] TR Bot Russian fighter jet taken down by friendly fire near Alchevsk. The air defense unit was targeting HIMARS missiles [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] did tghomas lord from fsf just die? [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] does he go by "tom laaaord" also? [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] or different person? [18:42] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/former-russian-regional-official-appointed-head-of-russian-occupied-territories-in-ukraines-zaporizhzhia-region-news "Former Russian regional official appointed head of Russian-occupied territories in Ukraines Zaporizhzhia region" (part of a larger trend) [18:42] TR Bot . [18:42] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/russian-mp-ukraine-conducted-experiments-to-turn-its-soldiers-into-vicious-and-deadly-monsters-news "Russian MP: Ukraine conducted experiments to turn its soldiers into vicious and deadly monsters" %) [18:42] TR Bot . [18:43] TR News The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167415 [18:43] TR Bot The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam | Tux Machines [18:43] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/resident-of-ukraines-hostomel-locates-his-airpods-in-russia-after-russian-forces-pulled-out-of-the-region-his-wifes-sex-toy-was-also-stolen-news "Resident of Ukraines Hostomel locates his AirPods in Russia after Russian forces pulled out of the region. His wifes sex toy was also stolen" [18:43] TR Bot . [18:43] matey did tghomas lord from fsf just die? <- i dont know but if hes dead id trust him more [18:43] matey does he go by "tom laaaord" also? <- why would he do that [18:43] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/19/a78344 [18:43] TR Bot North Korean Builders to Help With Donbas Reconstruction Russian Ambassador - The Moscow Times [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] I always see thomas lord [18:43] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/19/mayor-over-10000-people-held-at-filtration-camps-in-mariupol-news "Mayor: over 10,000 people held at filtration camps in Mariupol" [18:43] TR Bot . [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] he supported RMS and us, too [18:44] matey he was on the lieplanet mailing list a few weeks ago [18:44] matey he supported RMS and us, too <- you said that about sjvn [18:44] matey i called him before you did [18:44] matey your information is out of date [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] he was an early fsf staff [18:44] matey so was kuhn [18:45] matey lord is an opportunist. hes a little bit two faced [18:45] *earthling (~earthling@bbhzxabdqb954.irc) has joined #techrights [18:45] matey i dont know if hes a lot two-faced [18:45] matey or how important it is [18:45] matey but i wont ever trust him [18:45] matey i know he said supportive things [18:45] TR News 5 tips for securing SSH on your Linux servers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167416 [18:45] TR Bot 5 tips for securing SSH on your Linux servers | Tux Machines [18:45] matey doesnt matter. opportunists "friend" people all the time [18:45] matey you have to smile at novell, etc [18:46] matey im not saying hes evil or even on the wrong side [18:46] matey i dont know what side hes on [18:46] matey im not sure he knows either [18:46] matey some people ARENT in it because they give a shit [18:46] matey theyre in it because theres coffee and donuts, or whatever [18:47] matey "more people will come if they think we have punch and pie" [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837 [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] it's; him [18:47] TR Bot Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily Planet [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] about 55 years old [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] " [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] He died unexpectedly this week of a massive brain hemorrhage. [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] " [18:48] matey i take it back, maybe he was ill [18:48] matey im not doing it because im worried how it looks, i call it like i see it, always do [18:48] matey but if he just died maybe that explains some of the things he said recently [18:48] matey so im discounting them [18:49] matey thats fair [18:51] matey its possible he had a stroke before this [18:51] schestowitz[TR2] matey: lord was the anti-kuhn [18:51] schestowitz[TR2] he was publcily firing back to deb icaza and chums [18:51] matey good to know [18:51] matey i dont know if id take your word for it, but it could be true [18:52] matey a stroke can make people a lot more susceptible to public opinion, actually [18:52] matey so if he was arguing before [18:52] matey and had a stroke before his death [18:52] matey he could start parroting some things people said [18:52] matey ive kwown people who became that way following such an event [18:52] matey thats the benefit of the doubt [18:53] matey it caught me off guard because i thought he was on our side [18:53] TR News Tom Lord RIP Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167417 [18:53] TR Bot Tom Lord RIP | Tux Machines [18:53] matey but im not going to put too much weight on a sudden (apparent) about face from a dying man [18:54] matey its possible his death came out of nowhere but often these things have some similar event that precedes them [18:54] matey a heart attack before heart attack, a stroke before a stroke [18:54] matey so im willing to put my suspicions aside entirely [18:55] matey might as well [18:56] matey there was one thing worth mentioning [18:57] matey a long time ago, there was some interview about him and the fsf [18:57] matey it was weird-- it was intriguing no matter what you think of either party [18:57] matey /me imagines someone tapping his larynx [18:58] matey "boop" [18:58] TR News Temperature records today in UK. We're past 40. Midlife climate crisis. [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] matey maybe lieplanet killed him ● Jul 19 [19:00] matey they do take loyalty to the extreme [19:00] schestowitz[TR2] not the time for jokes [19:00] schestowitz[TR2] he died young [19:00] matey if he was against this bullshit [19:00] matey he would not mind a joke at their expense [19:00] schestowitz[TR2] search thomas lord in techrfights [19:00] matey ive already read many mentions of him in techrights [19:01] matey thats why i always assumed (and i guess, will assume) he was on our side [19:01] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [19:02] matey one of the last things he said was that people upset about lieplanets continuing bullshit against stallman constituted "hero worship" [19:02] matey thats what im overlooking in light of events [19:03] matey i take issue with that, but i already explained what i think about it in light of events [19:03] matey they didnt cancel stallman to cancel stallman [19:03] matey they did it to stop him and his followers [19:04] matey they didnt cancel torvalds to cancel torvalds either [19:04] matey they did it to stop him from having a voice against the upcoming bullshit [19:04] matey and to stop tso from becoming king instead of gkh [19:04] matey so i take serious issue with this "hero worship" bullshit [19:04] matey no matter who it comes from [19:04] matey its just an excuse to rewrite history, which is the open source way [19:05] matey open source gets creative with facts and history to paint people who fight for freedom as unimportant [19:05] matey it is an extremely scummy enterprise [19:05] matey standing up to such bullshit is not "hero worship" [19:05] matey its preventing people from rewriting history for the sake of corporate hegemony [19:07] matey stalin said his third international opponents were nazi sympathisers [19:08] matey all while he signed a pact with hitler and told his armies to stand down against invasion [19:08] matey its amazing how similar that is to whats going on in free software [19:08] matey but such opportunistic treachery has many historical examples [19:08] matey people throw fights while looking heroic [19:09] matey its incredible what people will do [19:09] matey mincer says its because humans suck [19:09] matey many do at least [19:10] matey its clear that most of the good ones are engaged at the moment [19:10] matey or otherwise engaged [19:10] matey or waiting for something [19:10] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:12] schestowitz https://nitter.it/thomas_lord/status/1174433645110513664 [19:12] TR Bot Lord (@thomas_lord): "Sure, let's talk about Bushnell, @migueldeicaza. For context, let's begin here: a variety of powerful people at MIT - none of them RMS - knowingly and enthusiastically sold out the institution to a millionaire pedophile and eugenicist, and attempted to cover it up."|nitter.it [19:14] Ariadne oh my god [19:14] earthling would RMS want to stand up and say: "see this, this is the GNU compiler collection, i am proud of this, it's 'free software'" [19:14] Ariadne micros~1 wants to do SBOMs of office in the next version [19:14] phanes < Ariadne> oh my god <-- becky, look at her butt? [19:15] Ariadne this is going to be hilarious [19:15] earthling and Torvalds: "amazing, we got a kernel here, which supports everything, first and foremost malicious hardware to run video games glorifying terror and murder" [19:15] Ariadne it's just going to be [19:15] Ariadne word.exe depends on [list of proprietary shit you will never see] [19:15] Ariadne what a self-own [19:16] TR News NSO Groups Pegasus Spyware Used against Thailand Pro-Democracy Activists and Leaders https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/nso-groups-pegasus-spyware-used-against-thailand-pro-democracy-activists-and-leaders.html [19:16] TR Bot Groups Pegasus Spyware Used against Thailand Pro-Democracy Activists and Leaders - Schneier on Security [19:16] phanes Ariadne: all of that code is visible in the CLR though isn't it? I haven't checked but assume it would be [19:16] phanes it's all managed code [19:16] Ariadne i'm sure there are proprietary bits [19:18] phanes .NET: It's so good we don't use it, because it exposes all of our proprietary secrets if we do. [19:19] TR News Public Knowledge Urges Committee To Support American Data Privacy and Protection Act - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-committee-to-support-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ Source: publicknowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-committee-to-support-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act/ [19:19] TR Bot Public Knowledge Urges Committee To Support American Data Privacy and Protection Act - Public Knowledge [19:19] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167418 [19:19] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:20] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167419 [19:20] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:20] phanes earthling: gcc is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. just a bunch of old dudes arguing about shit these days instead of fixing their damned project structure and compilation scaffolding [19:22] Ariadne what? [19:23] Ariadne gcc 12 has the most complete implementation of C++23 [19:23] Ariadne clang++ is very behind [19:24] bnchs msvc is still behind on C implementation [19:24] bnchs like if you wanna compare implementations, msvc probably has the worst one [19:28] Ariadne i am just responding to "gcc is dead" [19:28] Ariadne seems to be quite alive to me [19:29] bnchs yeah gcc is still alive [19:32] phanes Ariadne: btw, are you close with lovecruft/reichwein or is your association with garrett? [19:36] Ariadne i wasn [19:37] Ariadne 't aware that my social connections were open to your scrutiny [19:37] phanes no scrutiny intended, just curious about what the connection is there [19:37] Ariadne there isn't one [19:37] phanes i mean [19:37] phanes i dont buy it, but ok [19:38] Ariadne i really do not care what you 'buy' or do not buy [19:39] phanes that's a given, i'd imagine indifference to being called a liar would be a natural defensive development at this point [19:39] phanes "mental armor" as it were [19:40] *phanes has quit (You have been banned from this server) [19:40] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: if you don't like it, you can find new hosting [19:41] Ariadne i am not going to tolerate harassment [19:42] *phanes (~root@rhcesj5kae73u.irc) has joined #techrights [19:43] *phanes has quit (You have been banned from this server) [19:58] MinceR looks like i missed today's drama :> [19:59] Ariadne i mean, i was fine with him being here until he decided to pick a fight [19:59] bnchs what happened ● Jul 19 [20:00] MinceR 19 191332 < matey> i imagine he has a fair bit of executive planning skills [20:00] MinceR one does not need a lot of executive planning skill to just be a stooge for MICROS~1 [20:00] Ariadne still looking forward to MICROS~1 releasing SBOMs for office [20:01] Ariadne this is going to be hilarious [20:02] MinceR 19 192938 < phanes> Conflict Liaison Intelligence Team [20:02] MinceR great acronym [20:02] bnchs sometimes, banning is needed [20:02] XRevan86 MinceR: Oh. [20:02] XRevan86 I should've caught that. [20:02] *schestowitz[TR2] back [20:04] TR News Linux Memory Statistics - Dropbear https://dropbear.xyz/2022/07/19/linux-memory-statistics/ Source: dropbear | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dropbear.xyz/2022/07/19/linux-memory-statistics/ [20:04] TR Bot Linux Memory Statistics Dropbear [20:04] Ariadne i mean, bluntly, i do not have any association with any of the people on phanes' doxing website [20:05] Ariadne outside of friend-of-friend acquaintances [20:05] TR News Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs - Geeky Gadgets https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/asahi-linux-m2-apple-macs-19-07-2022/ Source: geeky-gadgets | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.geeky-gadgets.com/asahi-linux-m2-apple-macs-19-07-2022/ [20:05] TR Bot Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs - Geeky Gadgets [20:05] bnchs sometimes, you gotta need rules [20:05] schestowitz[TR2] to put it one way [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] mjg came here looking for a fight [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] so did phanes [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] neither is here to be helpful [20:06] bnchs lol mjg? [20:06] bnchs what did he say [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] they can find with each other elsewhere [20:06] Ariadne in this case i responded with z:line because that's what he understands [20:07] Ariadne i'll probably remove it later [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] he died not come here with techrights in mind [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] he's just stalking mjg [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] he came here IMing me [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] I relased what he told me [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] that's what hje was here for [20:08] Ariadne well, for future reference, /quote help uban [20:09] Ariadne is apparently how you ban people on here [20:09] Ariadne at least it worked above :D [20:09] Ariadne i was just going to blackhole him at the network border [20:09] MinceR i could list it with dline, apparently [20:09] Ariadne oh it has /dline? [20:09] Ariadne weird [20:09] MinceR apparently uban is an interface to kline and dline [20:10] MinceR and possibly other stuff [20:10] Ariadne what a time to be alive [20:10] MinceR :) [20:10] Ariadne IRC has invented even more ways to ban people [20:11] TR News Rocky Linux 9 and Rocky Linux 8 Optimized for Google Cloud Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/comment/reply/167237 [20:11] TR Bot Rocky Linux 9 Officially Released with GNOME 40 Desktop, Improved Security | Tux Machines [20:11] TR News The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167420 [20:11] TR Bot The 6 Best Linux Camera Apps to Get the Most Out of Your Webcam | Tux Machines [20:12] TR News Zorin OS 16.1 Lite Review - Lightweight Linux ep. 2 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npxFFV9fisw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/npxFFV9fisw [20:12] TR Bot Zorin OS 16.1 Lite Review - Lightweight Linux ep. 2 - Invidious [20:12] TR News openSUSE 15.4 Quick overview #linux #openSUSE #Shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F0dPh9P7b4g | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/F0dPh9P7b4g [20:12] TR Bot openSUSE 15.4 Quick overview #linux #openSUSE #Shorts - Invidious [20:12] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: gemini links for videos ^ [20:13] schestowitz[TR2] those work and let you download over gemini:// pretocoll [20:13] schestowitz[TR2] *protocol [20:13] MinceR nice [20:13] Ariadne new boxes are all set up btw [20:13] Ariadne when you are done developing your new stuff [20:13] Ariadne we can rebuild it on the ARM machines [20:13] XRevan86 Wow, a video that tells nothing worth knowing. [20:14] Ariadne https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/108675592201048186 all i have to say about the phanes bs [20:14] TR Bot Ariadne Conill: "grumble" - Treehouse Mastodon [20:14] MinceR well, there's nothing interesting about any opensuse release, especially after 12.2 [20:15] Ariadne OBS is kinda cute [20:15] TR News Trying sd-boot and unified kernel images in a KVM virtual machine https://www.berrange.com/posts/2022/07/19/trying-sd-boot-and-unified-kernel-images-in-a-kvm-virtual-machine/ Source: berrange | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.berrange.com/posts/2022/07/19/trying-sd-boot-and-unified-kernel-images-in-a-kvm-virtual-machine/ [20:15] TR Bot Daniel P. Berrang Blog Archive Trying sd-boot and unified kernel images in a KVM virtual machine [20:15] Ariadne though written in perl [20:15] Ariadne in 2020 [20:15] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne: we started a second git server on there [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] one dedicated to tuxmachines [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] git@tm.org [20:16] Ariadne kk [20:16] Ariadne those new containers are still x86_64 tho [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] it's mostly perl [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] the new cms [20:16] XRevan86 Ariadne: It's mostly Ruby. [20:16] Ariadne we will replace them with aarch64 ones later [20:16] Ariadne XRevan86: oh is it? [20:16] Ariadne i glanced at the sources [20:16] Ariadne all i saw was perl :D [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] the developer loves alpine so far btw [20:16] schestowitz[TR2] I asked today [20:17] schestowitz[TR2] the commands are not hard to learn [20:17] Ariadne well, having ergonomic tools is part of software freedom imo [20:18] XRevan86 Ariadne: Weird. But there is Perl involved, but it's the older stuff. [20:18] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2207149 [20:18] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/86cum8zz6ya91.jpg created on 2022-07-14 02:53:13.799919 [20:19] TR News Asahi Linux now supports M2 Apple Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167377#comment-34388 [20:19] TR Bot Asahi Linux adds support for Macs with M2 chips | Tux Machines [20:21] *phanes (~root@aiqfbwy62wvtw.irc) has joined #techrights [20:21] Ariadne you know phanes, i was considering removing the bans [20:21] Ariadne but you continue to evade [20:22] phanes you get so mad when people call you a liar, i wonder why [20:22] TR News This is developed for bloat, waste of power, and back doors, not low energy, price etc. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/19/nano-u12p-an-8k-digital-signage-player-powered-by-an-intel-alder-lake-processor/ [20:22] TR Bot Nano-U12P - An 8K digital signage player powered by an Intel Alder Lake processor - CNX Software [20:22] TR News Get connected to your Nano with the Screw Terminal Adapter https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/get-connected-to-your-nano-with-the-screw-terminal-adapter/ [20:22] TR Bot Get connected to your Nano with the Screw Terminal Adapter [20:23] phanes i didnt even know she was an netop here lol [20:23] Ariadne phanes: no, i get mad when you come here to collect intelligence for your doxing/stalking/whatever project [20:23] phanes Ariadne: no light you cast on me has any impact [20:23] TR News "Commercial" here means nonfree https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.5-released [20:23] TR Bot Commercial LTS Qt 6.2.5 Released [20:24] Ariadne phanes: what is your purpose for being here, then? [20:24] TR News The Sustainability Impact of Technical Debt https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/sustainability/how-reducing-technical-debt-improves-sustainability Source: datacenterknowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.datacenterknowledge.com/sustainability/how-reducing-technical-debt-improves-sustainability [20:24] TR Bot The Sustainability Impact of Technical Debt | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry [20:25] phanes So what was your involvement in the appelbaum thing? I think we talked about it before, I can't recall what your version was. [20:26] Ariadne what involvement? [20:26] phanes correct [20:26] Ariadne i said that some of the people who posted on the website were metamours, and i see no reason to disbelieve their claims based on personal observation of ioerror's behaviour [20:27] phanes metamours? I'm not familiar with this term [20:27] TR News [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: relaxed TLB flushes and other optimi. - Nadav Amit https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220718120212.3180-1-namit@vmware.com/ Source: vmware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220718120212.3180-1-namit@vmware.com/ [20:27] TR Bot [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: relaxed TLB flushes and other optimi. - Nadav Amit [20:27] Ariadne phanes: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/metamour [20:27] TR Bot metamour - Wiktionary [20:27] TR News [RFC] Function Multi Versioning on Arm https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-July/239134.html Source: gcc | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-July/239134.html [20:27] TR Bot [RFC] Function Multi Versioning on Arm [20:28] phanes metamours to you? [20:28] Ariadne one was [20:28] Ariadne a couple of others had a higher degree of separation [20:28] *Ariadne shrug [20:28] TR News [PATCHv5 00/13] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220712231328.5294-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220712231328.5294-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ [20:28] TR Bot [PATCHv5 00/13] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov [20:28] phanes so who ran the website? [20:28] Ariadne no idea [20:29] TR News Huawei to introduce HarmonyOS 3.0 on July 27 - GSMArena.com news https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_to_introduce_harmonyos_30_on_july_27-news-55096.php Source: gsmarena | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.gsmarena.com/huawei_to_introduce_harmonyos_30_on_july_27-news-55096.php [20:29] TR Bot to introduce HarmonyOS 3.0 on July 27 - GSMArena.com news [20:29] phanes what about peter todd? know any of those folks? [20:29] Ariadne presumably somebody who had complaints about him :) [20:29] Ariadne nope [20:30] phanes i would like to know more about [20:30] phanes the social network links surrounding the appelbaum thing [20:31] phanes not just who was involved but how they were connected to each other [20:31] Ariadne well i'm sure 20 minutes on polycul.es doing some old fashioned OSINT work will help you figure it out [20:32] TR News Asahi Linux Now Supports Mac Studio and M2 MacBooks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167377#comment-34389 [20:32] TR Bot Asahi Linux adds support for Macs with M2 chips | Tux Machines [20:32] Ariadne in the meantime, this is techrights, not sexrights [20:33] MinceR lol [20:33] Ariadne also, i should note, you're still banned [20:33] XRevan86 Today is all about OSINT. [20:33] TR News "In this video we take a closer look at the upcoming MakuluLinux GameR Build, due in the next few weeks..." http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2022/07/19/makululinux-gamer-build-preview/ [20:33] TR Bot GameR Build Preview MakuluLinux [20:34] phanes ive been banned for 20 years lol [20:34] SomeH4x0r what ban? [20:34] Ariadne this server has not existed for 20 years [20:34] Ariadne in fact, it only exists because your previous boss decided to go dickswinging [20:34] phanes that was glorious [20:35] phanes and deserved, i might add [20:35] Ariadne yeah i am sure you enjoyed mass-akilling the #fsf channel [20:35] phanes not just deserved but warned about for years [20:35] Ariadne sure, freenode's governance problems were nothing new [20:35] XRevan86 So now everything's mostly as before, except IRC shrank a little bit. [20:35] XRevan86 and some names have changed [20:36] phanes look, they had plenty of opportunities to adjust and decided an authoritarian response would work [20:36] MinceR i would hope that more than just names have changed [20:36] phanes like years of opportunities [20:36] phanes mst brokered peace for some of those years and then they renegged on their agreement [20:37] phanes being fair doesn't mean being weak [20:37] Ariadne anyway [20:38] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/fsf-channel-canceled.txt [20:38] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/freenode-takes-control-of-fsf-channel.txt [20:38] phanes so whats the deal here, are you providing hosting for roy [20:38] Ariadne yeah for years now [20:39] TR News "The Rust team has published a new point release of Rust, 1.62.1. Rust is a programming language that is empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software." https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/07/19/Rust-1.62.1.html [20:39] TR Bot Announcing Rust 1.62.1 | Rust Blog [20:39] Ariadne phanes: so, you got an answer to your question, what other business do you have here [20:39] phanes well it's a good arrangement, the watchdogs dont bark if you're the one bringing the food out [20:40] Ariadne i think schestowitz[TR2] and i have called each other's bullshit plenty of times phanes [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] phanes causes trouble [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] I learned this a year ago [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] when I first saw the nick [20:41] phanes i do cause trouble sometimes :D [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] why do it here? [20:41] phanes what i can promise though is that when i do, i do it for something i believe in [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] mjg was muted here for a year [20:41] phanes i am guided by a framework [20:41] schestowitz[TR2] after he was trying to cause a lot of trouble [20:42] schestowitz[TR2] I just want to publish information [20:42] SomeH4x0r evil bans [20:42] phanes i want information to mean something [20:43] TR News "The Fedora Community in Panama recently celebrated the release of Fedora Linux 36. Our last in-person event was back in December 2019. Thank you to all the organizers, participants, and attendees who made the Fedora Explorer Day 36 event possible." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-explorer-day-panama/ [20:43] TR Bot Fedora Explorer Day - Panam! Fedora Community Blog [20:43] XRevan86 phanes: Go haunt Russian propaganda. [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] you used the term "sword of truth" [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] weird term [20:43] schestowitz[TR2] pen mightier than the sword? [20:43] phanes the pen is mighter than the sword [20:43] TR News 3 infrastructure principles every IT leader should follow | The Enterprisers Project https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/infrastructure-principles-every-it-leader-should-follow Source: enterprisersproject [20:43] TR Bot 3 infrastructure principles every IT leader should follow | The Enterprisers Project [20:44] phanes and truth is an immutable image [20:44] TR News Digital transformation = complexity https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/digital-transformation-initiatives-start-now Source: enterprisersproject | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/digital-transformation-initiatives-start-now [20:44] TR Bot Digital transformation: 4 initiatives to start this week | The Enterprisers Project [20:44] Ariadne is it stored on the blockchain ? [20:44] XRevan86 Whoever will come to us with a sword, from a sword will perish? [20:45] TR News syslog-ng Store Box SQL source - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-store-box-sql-source Source: syslog-ng | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-store-box-sql-source [20:45] TR Bot Store Box SQL source - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [20:45] mjg59_ phanes: If your focus is the truth, why did you change https://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ to be about "Jerry Thibodeau" rather than yourself? [20:45] TR Bot The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement [20:46] phanes mjg59_: your pile-on effort has failed. you missed your chance. [20:46] mjg59_ phanes: It feels like you're now making false accusations about someone as a result [20:46] phanes no it doesn't [20:47] TR News Videos: MakuluLinux, openSUSE, ajnd Zorin OS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167421 [20:47] TR Bot Videos: MakuluLinux, openSUSE, ajnd Zorin OS | Tux Machines [20:47] phanes i know you're desperate to make it go away but you were given clear terms [20:47] phanes and they were fair [20:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167422 [20:47] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:47] mjg59_ Did Courtney attack the reputation of "Jerry Thibodeau"? [20:47] mjg59_ Or is this a false claim about her? [20:48] Ariadne who the fuck is courtney [20:48] phanes the mistake you keep making is you pivot from where you are and not where you're going [20:48] mjg59_ Ariadne: Phanes's ex-fiance [20:48] Ariadne oh right [20:48] Ariadne now i remember [20:48] Ariadne some advice [20:48] TR News How to install Rocky Linux 9.0 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E7Xh4DLjJFo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/E7Xh4DLjJFo [20:48] TR Bot How to install Rocky Linux 9.0 - Invidious [20:48] Ariadne life is too fucking short for whatever this bullshit is [20:49] phanes especially when there are consequences [20:49] MinceR 19 214444 < XRevan86> Whoever will come to us with a sword, from a sword will perish? [20:49] MinceR live by the sword; trip and fall on your sword; die by the sword. [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] Ariadne> life is too fucking short [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] Thomas Lord just died [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] aged 56 [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] he did so much [20:50] Ariadne see, exactly [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] I didn't even know jyst how much [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] until he died [20:50] schestowitz[TR2] back in the 90s [20:50] MinceR is he the tla guy? [20:50] Ariadne yeah [20:50] MinceR i see [20:50] MinceR he died young [20:51] earthling TLA? [20:51] Ariadne "tom lord's arch" [20:52] Ariadne later GNU Arch [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] he supported us [20:52] Ariadne later GNU Bazaar [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] andrew project [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] fsf staff [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] https://nitter.it/thomas_lord/status/1174433645110513664 [20:52] TR Bot Lord (@thomas_lord): "Sure, let's talk about Bushnell, @migueldeicaza. For context, let's begin here: a variety of powerful people at MIT - none of them RMS - knowingly and enthusiastically sold out the institution to a millionaire pedophile and eugenicist, and attempted to cover it up."|nitter.it [20:53] Ariadne phanes: you seem to have a lot of trauma in your life, and i hope you are able to heal someday [20:53] TR News Rocky Linux 9 Comes With New Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167237#comment-34390 [20:53] TR Bot Rocky Linux 9 Officially Released with GNOME 40 Desktop, Improved Security | Tux Machines [20:53] Ariadne best of luck [20:53] phanes if i thought you were able to experience empathy i'd believe you mean that [20:54] phanes that you know anything [20:54] TR News Touch-sensitive steering for a RatCar | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/touch-sensitive-steering-for-a-ratcar/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/07/19/touch-sensitive-steering-for-a-ratcar/ [20:54] TR Bot Touch-sensitive steering for a RatCar | Arduino Blog [20:55] TR News Fedora / Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167423 [20:55] TR Bot Fedora / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:55] TR News Visualising Bubbles (15001922) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/visualising-bubbles/ Source: publicdomainreview | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicdomainreview.org/collection/visualising-bubbles/ [20:55] TR Bot Visualising Bubbles (15001922) The Public Domain Review [20:55] Ariadne phanes: I'm sure folks like mst will be glad to vouch for my ability to empathise with others, including overempathisation [20:55] phanes what's up w/ fedora these days anyway, they're doing some dumb shit with systemd again [20:56] TR News CISA released Security Advisory on MiCODUS MV720 Global Positioning System (GPS) Tracker https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/07/19/cisa-released-security-advisory-micodus-mv720-global-positioning [20:56] TR Bot CISA released Security Advisory on MiCODUS MV720 Global Positioning System (GPS) Tracker | CISA [20:56] TR News "This advisory contains mitigations for Use of Hard-coded Credentials, Improper Authentication, Cross-site Scripting, and Authorization Bypass Through User-controlled Key vulnerabilities in the MiCODUS MV720 GPS tracker." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-200-01 [20:56] TR Bot MiCODUS MV720 GPS tracker | CISA [20:56] phanes Ariadne: that someone needs to explain to you the difference between experience and your projected image of experience kind of makes this a hard conversation to navigate without you being offended [20:57] TR News "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could allow unauthorized access, upload malicious files, and cause a denial-of-service condition." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-193-01 [20:57] TR Bot Dahua ASI7213X-T1 (Update A) | CISA [20:57] phanes if you had 2000 people vouch for your internal experience it wouldn't mean anything [20:57] Ariadne phanes: i think it is more that you have biases against me because i did not like what your previous boss did with freenode [20:57] Ariadne but, that's fine :) [20:58] phanes i have difficulty with [20:58] phanes alot of the decisions that were made [20:58] TR News Not because Microsoft has changes, only due to massive blowback https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/19/microsoft_store_policy/ [20:58] TR Bot Microsoft tweaks Store policy for open source once again The Register [20:58] Ariadne and yet, you gleefully roleplayed as one of the four horseman of the apocalypse as #fsf was closed down forcefully [20:58] Ariadne fascinating [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 19 [21:00] phanes yes i recall several leaders at the fsf resigning shortly after due to a convergeance of pressures between that and other things, it was a weird time [21:01] phanes so soon aftrer the stallman drama too [21:01] phanes its almost like [21:01] phanes there was some guiding force behind all of it [21:01] TR News A look back in celebration of Inkscape contributors & milestones in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164931#comment-34391 [21:01] TR Bot What youll find inside Inkscape version 1.2 | Tux Machines [21:01] *phanes shrugs [21:01] phanes who knows [21:01] Ariadne are you taking credit for disrupting operations at the FSF or something? [21:02] phanes im on friendly terms with the fsf as it is today [21:02] phanes so im not really tracking you [21:02] TR News Apple only adopted it because it's afraid of the GNU General Public Licence https://foursixnine.io//blog/osx/homebrew/zsh/2022/07/13/In-case-your-zsh-completion-is-broken-on-OSX-with-homebrew.html [21:02] TR Bot In case your zsh completion is broken on OSX with homebrew | foursixnines lair [21:03] Ariadne 3:01 PM there was some guiding force behind all of it [21:03] phanes it really does seem like that looking back [21:03] Ariadne fascinating [21:07] Ariadne but seriously, you should probably find a therapist to talk about your trauma [21:07] TR News "Currently I am working on a Web-of-Trust implementation for the OpenPGP library PGPainless. This work will be funded by the awesome NLnet foundation through NGI Assure. Check them out! NGI Assure is made possible with financial support from the European Commissions Next Generation Internet programme." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/07/19/creating-a-web-of-trust-implementation-certify-keys-with-pgpainless/ [21:07] TR Bot Creating a Web-of-Trust Implementation: Certify Keys with PGPainless vanitasvitae's blog [21:08] phanes that stuff just does not work on me [21:08] TR News Cirq Turns 1.0 | Gulag Open Source Blog https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/07/Cirq-Turns-1.0.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.googleblog.com/2022/07/Cirq-Turns-1.0.html [21:08] TR Bot Cirq Turns 1.0 | Google Open Source Blog [21:08] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167424 [21:08] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:09] TR News [PATCH net-next V3 0/3] Introduce and use NUMA distance metrics - Tariq Toukan https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220719162339.23865-1-tariqt@nvidia.com/ Source: nvidia | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220719162339.23865-1-tariqt@nvidia.com/ [21:09] TR Bot [PATCH net-next V3 0/3] Introduce and use NUMA distance metrics - Tariq Toukan [21:09] phanes you'd think my rivals over the years you gathered information from about me would have at least given you some actionable intel [21:09] Ariadne phanes: well, regardless, i hope you find something that does work on you to solve it [21:09] Ariadne what rivals? [21:09] phanes shit, garrett did a better job [21:09] TR News AOCL 3.2 Released https://developer.amd.com/amd-aocl/ [21:09] TR Bot AMD Optimizing CPU Libraries (AOCL) - AMD [21:09] Ariadne i hate to tell you but i'm not terribly interested in you [21:10] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:10] Ariadne since the whole freenode shitshow, i've given approximately zero amount of thought about you honestly [21:11] phanes for that im glad, but you certainly did enjoy the cesspool that encouraged you to go over and "clean up" (aka use as a trojan soapbox) [21:11] TR News The Steam Deck Reaches a New Milestone with 4000 Games (Playable or Verified) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167367#comment-34392 [21:11] TR Bot Steam Deck hits over 4,000 titles marked either Verified or Playable | Tux Machines [21:11] TR News Perl Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers and Permutation Rankings http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/07/perl-weekly-challenge-174-disarium-numbers-and-permutation-rankings.html [21:11] Ariadne but things like https://punches-pawloski-fiasco.blogspot.com/ are clearly the work of a traumatized individual [21:11] TR Bot Weekly Challenge 174: Disarium Numbers and Permutation Rankings | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org] [21:11] TR Bot The Truth about the Punches-Pawloski Engagement [21:11] phanes yes, 15 years or so ago was a rough period in my life [21:12] Ariadne it seems to have shaped how you view the world though [21:12] phanes you're not smart enough to wrap around how i view the world [21:12] Ariadne textbook coping response [21:13] TR News YaST Development Report - Chapter 5 of 2022 | YaST https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-07-19/yast-report-2022-5 Source: yast | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-07-19/yast-report-2022-5 [21:13] TR Bot YaST Development Report - Chapter 5 of 2022 | YaST [21:13] Ariadne anyway, i have to get back to doing work now. these workloads are not going to migrate themselves. [21:14] *phanes shrugs [21:14] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/PBFguestcombined_04.jpg ( https://explosm.net/comics/pbfguestcombined#comic ) [21:14] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [21:15] schestowitz[TR2] record temperatures here today [21:15] schestowitz[TR2] all-time highs [21:15] schestowitz[TR2] and we listen to xmas music [21:15] TR News MicroOS Desktop Use to Help with ALP Feedback Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167425 [21:16] TR Bot MicroOS Desktop Use to Help with ALP Feedback | Tux Machines [21:16] TR News Security patches and GPS Fiasco Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167426 [21:16] phanes "good will baiting" [21:17] TR Bot Security Patches and GPS Fiasco | Tux Machines [21:17] TR News "In addition to his climate and housing activism, he spent several years volunteering with students at Longfellow Middle School as part of the Writer Coach Connection program." https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837 [21:17] TR Bot Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily Planet [21:17] phanes we got a heat wave too [21:18] earthling am i mistaken, i remember phanes was associated with www.counterpunch.org ? [21:18] schestowitz[TR2] no [21:18] schestowitz[TR2] www.counterpunch.org is left-leaning [21:18] schestowitz[TR2] real left [21:18] earthling no what ? [21:19] schestowitz[TR2] so it's opposite to his beliefs [21:19] phanes im like right smack dab in the middle of the political compass [21:19] earthling no clue then why it crossed my mind... [21:21] schestowitz[TR2] www.counterpunch.org seems to e having issues lately [21:21] schestowitz[TR2] ramping up the paywall [21:21] phanes unless im being baited with good will hunting memeology and then i can turn into ronald reagan pretty good [21:21] schestowitz[TR2] and no weekend edition this past weekend [21:21] schestowitz[TR2] and that's rare [21:22] phanes the usa is in a credibility crisis [21:22] phanes among others [21:23] TR News An introduction to the Linux graphics stack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167427 [21:23] TR Bot An introduction to the Linux graphics stack | Tux Machines [21:23] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167428 [21:23] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tseqi6giwme3s.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] TR News Hallo Geminispace! gemini://gmi.derschwarzestrahler.at/gemlog/hallo_welt.gmi [21:27] Ariadne schestowitz[TR2]: what are your thoughts on gemini? i am thinking about moving to a static site, and am pondering just building a static site generator that generates both HTML and Gemini pages [21:28] schestowitz[TR2] this is what we do with tuxmachines [21:28] schestowitz[TR2] there is ite DB [21:28] schestowitz[TR2] that stores the pertinent content from which it exports to static html files [21:28] schestowitz[TR2] and to gemtext later [21:29] phanes almost nobody uses gemini, it's obscure [21:29] schestowitz[TR2] theeeeeeeeeee db helps when youuu want to edit a page and need to locate by date, title etc. [21:29] Ariadne phanes: it seems kind of cute though [21:29] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:29] schestowitz[TR2] phanes: techrights served 16,490 pages over gemini sicne midnight today [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] phanes schestowitz[TR2]: that's fucking incredible but i dont see the utility if almost no one uses the platform being published to [21:30] XRevan86 Is anyone being harmed by it? [21:30] phanes i didnt say it was bad, i just said i dont understand the utility of it [21:30] TR News Devices: Nano-U12P and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167429 [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] phanes: try it [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] I get weather off it [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] git is managed by us in gemini [21:31] Ariadne i think its basically meant to be an artistic statement [21:31] TR Bot Devices: Nano-U12P and Arduino | Tux Machines [21:31] Ariadne about how the web has lost its way [21:31] phanes tell ya what, ill give it a try if you switch to a proper ca chain :D [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] it does github mirroring, youtube [21:31] SomeH4x0r fuck this worsening shit [21:31] SomeH4x0r "proper CA chain" I mean [21:31] schestowitz[TR2] phanes: only about 10% of gemini uses L.E. [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] about 85% is self-signed [21:32] phanes so then you see the problem [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 8.8% let;''s encrypt [21:32] SomeH4x0r the problem is that you trust the evil companies because you were told to trust them [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 8.9.2% self-signed [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] 89.2 [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] SomeH4x0r: it can become a censorship mechanism [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] as browsers become more "strict" [21:33] SomeH4x0r I'm almost sure it will [21:33] phanes oh no, certainly not, but, i do know that peoples' browsers do, and if my goal is exposure, I know I need to use them [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] tor browser is not https-only by deefault [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] with CA, obviously [21:33] SomeH4x0r we have https://hstspreload.org [21:33] TR Bot HSTS Preload List Submission [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] tor browser also comes with microsoft bing [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] aka DDG [21:33] SomeH4x0r and TLD preloads [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] because DDG (Microsoft () paid Tor [21:33] SomeH4x0r preloaded HSTS will become more and more spread [21:34] SomeH4x0r and then it will be censorship [21:34] TR News Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167430 [21:34] TR Bot Free, Libre, and Open Source Software | Tux Machines [21:34] schestowitz[TR2] you ask them about it in irc [21:34] schestowitz[TR2] they instantly ban you [21:34] SomeH4x0r delete the Let's Encrypt certificate on the IRC [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] some clients are too dependent on CAs [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] with browser we link to http [21:35] SomeH4x0r such clients are shit and shouldn't be used [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] if the browser insists on https, it is there [21:35] schestowitz[TR2] but google firefox and google* chrom* would complain a little [21:36] SomeH4x0r https:// is fine, I tell people about it, as well as tell them to ignore the warning while it is still a warning and not an error [21:36] TR Bot not resolve host: is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// is ) [21:36] XRevan86 In what world HSTS is like censorship? [21:36] SomeH4x0r it will become censorship once it is enforced for everything [21:36] XRevan86 It literally cannot be enforced for everything. [21:36] SomeH4x0r no "trusted" certificate = not going to work at all [21:36] phanes i think he's implying CA's will arbitrarily revoke for sites who do things they don't like [21:36] SomeH4x0r correct. Revoke and/or not issue [21:36] XRevan86 That's not what HSTS means. [21:36] schestowitz[TR2] http://news.tuxmachines.org/ [21:36] TR Bot [21:36] schestowitz[TR2] https://news.tuxmachines.org/ [21:36] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/ ) [21:37] schestowitz[TR2] 403 [21:37] schestowitz[TR2] because self-signed [21:37] schestowitz[TR2] for 3650 days [21:37] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/19/apple_butterfly_settlement/ [21:37] TR Bot Apple to pay $50m settlement for rotten butterfly keyboards The Register [21:37] SomeH4x0r it doesn't really matter what it means, it will be enforced to do evil [21:37] schestowitz[TR2] i think he's implying CA's will arbitrarily revoke for sites who do things they don't like [21:37] phanes in all fairness pki is such a poorly standardized thing that pretends to be well standardized [21:37] schestowitz[TR2] clownflare did this 5 years ago [21:38] phanes every, literally every CA uses a different signing and endowment process [21:38] phanes pki is a clusterfuck that only continues to exist because the core premise is sound [21:38] TR News Links 19/07/2022: RIP, Thomas Lord, Well Miss You! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/rip-thomas-lord/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/19/rip-thomas-lord/ [21:38] TR Bot Links 19/07/2022: RIP, Thomas Lord, Well Miss You! | Techrights [21:39] SomeH4x0r there is CA/B Forum to standardize it [21:39] SomeH4x0r also, most websites probably use either Let's Encrypt or Cloudflare [21:39] SomeH4x0r the other CAs may eventually disappear [21:40] phanes SomeH4x0r: you should read Eric Fromm's "Escape from Freedom" [21:40] SomeH4x0r techrights is a honeypot in this regard [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] thw web is being swallowed [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] most protocols [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] and they make up new protocols [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] and then few companioes swallow everythung [21:41] SomeH4x0r putting a clownflared