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[00:16]	TR News	 (NEW): VirtualBox 7.0.10 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernels 6.4 and 6.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/VirtualBox_7_0_10_Released_with_Initial_Support_for_Linux_Kerne.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/VirtualBox_7_0_10_Released_with_Initial_Support_for_Linux_Kerne.gmi 
[00:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0.10 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernels 6.4 and 6.5
[00:19]	starstreak	https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nicholas-chapman-gp-coffee-semen-b2359088.html
[00:19]	TR Bot	 Doctor gave woman cup of coffee mixed with his semen | The Independent
[00:19]	DaemonFC	I ended up having Walmart re-balance my driver side front wheel again.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	It spat out a wheel weight today and it bounced off the wheel well.
[00:20]	bnchs	starstreak: some people don't deserve to have a job
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:20]	DaemonFC	So I went up to Zion and asked them to ONLY use ahesives.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	*adhesives
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Yes, mjg59_ fails to acknowledge that Custom Mode actually can't be found by the average user.
[00:20]	bnchs	"Dr Nicholas Chapman denied the charges and claimed he had a rare condition that made him release semen while on the toilet "
[00:21]	DaemonFC	That's a lot of the reason why I just turn "Secure Boot" off and forget about it.
[00:21]	bnchs	i bet the cure to this condition is a bullet to the head
[00:21]	TR News	"I have been sitting on this post, unwritten, stewing around in my head for a while now. Given the recent woke gemidrama, I thought now as good a time as any to finally write this up." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2023-07-18-re-re-free-speech.gmi
[00:22]	TR News	Changing How I Consume Visual Content gemini://gem.saayaa.space/gemlog/2023-07-18-changing-watching-habits.gmi
[00:22]	DaemonFC	https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-NUCs/How-to-install-custom-secure-boot-keys-PK-KEK-db/m-p/693584
[00:22]	TR Bot	 How to install custom secure boot keys (PK, KEK, db)? - Intel Community
[00:22]	DaemonFC	"Looks like I broke my NUC8i7HVK: replaced the keys using Linux efitools, signed my boot efi's and enabled SecureBoot.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Now I cannot even get into the BIOS."
[00:22]	DaemonFC	This must be what Matt GULAG was referring to.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	A broken system that can't even POST is very secure.
[00:22]	starstreak	bnchs, lol
[00:22]	DaemonFC	It can't run anything now.
[00:23]	TR News	Some unnamable juice. gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1480
[00:23]	DaemonFC	Anyway, I was watching some more Predator.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	elusive_woman: "I don't want to loose you."
[00:23]	bnchs	no doubt he was aware of what he was doing
[00:23]	DaemonFC	You know, mom's always complaining about people doing this in an Amazon review or something.
[00:24]	TR News	Tech illiteracy gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2023-07-18-tech-literacy.gmi
[00:24]	starstreak	techrights-news, "everything I don't like is woke"
[00:24]	DaemonFC	This guy did it in a YIM chat with what he thought was an underage boy.
[00:24]	bnchs	i hope this ends up in his criminal records
[00:24]	bnchs	and nobody hires him
[00:24]	DaemonFC	Seems he did want to "loose" him and that's why he ended up in a police station.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	:P
[00:24]	TR News	My Gemini Retrospective gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/my-retro.gmi
[00:24]	bnchs	nobody is gonna hire dr. coffee jizzer
[00:25]	DaemonFC	DrGULAG and DrPizza.
[00:25]	starstreak	lol dr coffee jizzer
[00:25]	DaemonFC	Sitting in a tree.
[00:25]	bnchs	would you like your coffee with extra CUM?
[00:25]	DaemonFC	K-I-S-S-I-N-G
[00:25]	TR News	Consent gemini://idiomdrottning.org/consent
[00:25]	DaemonFC	First comes love (with a 9 year old), then comes marriage (once COVID ends of course), then comes the stabber in a crybully carriage.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	(The waaaahmbulance.)
[00:26]	starstreak	bnchs, daemonfc might enjoy it
[00:27]	DaemonFC	No, I don't enjoy jizz.
[00:27]	bnchs	maybe he'll get hired as a semenologist
[00:27]	TR News	"There is an aforism, a rising tide lifts all boats, made popular by a speechwriter in the JFK administration who snarfed it from the regional New England Council in the early sixties." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/tide
[00:27]	bnchs	the one you don't trust drinks fro
[00:27]	DaemonFC	Don't get the wrong dixie cup.
[00:27]	DaemonFC	That one has to go off to the lab.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	Or maybe it's that one.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	I can't recall.
[00:28]	bnchs	only one way to find out
[00:28]	bnchs	sip from all of them
[00:28]	TR News	Help! The antenna on my textie talkie is broke! gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-18-01-help-the-antenna-on-my-textie-talkie-is-broke.gmi
[00:28]	DaemonFC	I know what you're thinking. Did he fire 6 shots or 5? You know, in all of this confusion I've lost track of that myself. So you have to ask yourself a question.
[00:28]	starstreak	the woman said it was salty and poured it out a bunch of times
[00:29]	DaemonFC	Do ya feel lucky? Huh? Do ya, punk?
[00:29]	starstreak	then eventually took it to the police
[00:29]	bnchs	damn
[00:29]	DaemonFC	The Clint Eastwood diet.
[00:29]	psydruid	when Dr Gevorgyan met Dr Chapman
[00:30]	DaemonFC	Beef Jerky and some Pabst on his front lawn, complaining about the Asian people taking over the neighborhood (Gran Torino).
[00:30]	DaemonFC	Who eventually turned out to be really nice once he got over his prejudice.
[00:32]	starstreak	https://fortune.com/2023/07/07/elon-musk-sues-law-firm-that-led-fight-to-make-him-complete-twitter-takeover-and-charged-90-million/
[00:32]	TR Bot	Musk sues law firm that led fight to make him complete Twitter takeoverand charged $90 million | Fortune
[00:32]	bnchs	lol
[00:33]	bnchs	elon musk never stops being a retard
[00:33]	DaemonFC	Daikatana was definitely the best video game since Superman 64.
[00:34]	starstreak	anonymous declared war on fascism on twitter, elon banned them
[00:34]	starstreak	while he allows many deplorables spread nazism
[00:36]	schestowitz	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nFLYrS1
[00:36]	TR Bot	 I was warned but did not listen. - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[00:36]	schestowitz	"
[00:36]	schestowitz	I was told long ago that Satyas vision was to manage out the US and bring in the HB1s. I dismissed it as a malicious statement with no merit and here we are. The very thing that I was warned against years later is coming to pass before my eyes.
[00:36]	schestowitz	"
[00:37]	bnchs	it's H-1B not HB1
[00:37]	schestowitz	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nERJuoA#replies
[00:37]	TR Bot	 Well... - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[00:37]	schestowitz	"
[00:37]	schestowitz	Its Satyas vision baby..and you ain't in it.
[00:37]	schestowitz	As mentioned in another post.The layoffs are preparation steps to cover for the 3B break fee if the Activision deal does not come through.
[00:37]	schestowitz	https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/microsoft-to-pay-3-billion-breakup-fee-if-merger-falls-apart-says-activision/ar-AA1avBHw
[00:37]	schestowitz	"
[00:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN
[00:37]	DaemonFC	That's actually, not far from the truth.
[00:37]	schestowitz	Satan Nuttela, bnchs  called him
[00:37]	DaemonFC	The H1-B visa is basically slavery.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	It has no path to a green card or citizenship.
[00:38]	bnchs	DaemonFC: it does
[00:38]	DaemonFC	And if you lose the job you have 90 days to find another slave master or leave the country.
[00:38]	bnchs	you have to go get a PERM cert
[00:38]	schestowitz	got some good news re MICROSOFT
[00:38]	schestowitz	doing a quick post...
[00:38]	bnchs	which requires you to open your job up for US citizens for a month
[00:38]	DaemonFC	Matt GULAG is fine with this.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	He got his.
[00:39]	bnchs	and if nobody qualified for it takes it
[00:39]	DaemonFC	Now it can be a bunch of "nasty brown people" that will submit to sexual harassment and rape at Microsoft, and low pay, and keep quiet.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	That's how they like it there anyway.
[00:39]	bnchs	then the H-1B worker passes the PERM cert and can use it to get their green card
[00:39]	DaemonFC	Everyone too terrified to say anything about the manager raping them at the "Christmas party".
[00:39]	DaemonFC	And threatening their visa if they report it.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	Like what happens at Bethesda.
[00:40]	bnchs	uhh actually i did some research on that
[00:40]	bnchs	you can report labor violations and such to the DoL
[00:40]	bnchs	in case you get fired, they'll allow you to adjust your status, or allow you a much longer time
[00:41]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: may  need you to check the draft in a moment, maybe add a remark
[00:42]	bnchs	and if you're paying your foreign workers way less than you should be paying
[00:42]	bnchs	then you'll be paying even MORE in backwages and fees
[00:42]	bnchs	fines*
[00:42]	bnchs	once someone gives an anonymous tip
[00:45]	bnchs	you can't really cheat on this, because the DoL mandates that you pay foreign workers as much as US citizens working the same job
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Microsoft wants a bunch of trapped workers it can pay a lot less too.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	And turning it into a whore house by threatening their visas.....bonus.
[00:45]	starstreak	microsoft will likely be allowed to purchase activision
[00:46]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/microsoft-media-lied-about-layoffs/
[00:46]	TR Bot	 Techrights Was Right: Microsoft Fired More Than 4 Times What the Media Said Last Week | Techrights
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Jeremy Soule is a rapist who worked at Microsoft during the incidents.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	He just slinked away and went dark.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	He's not charged with anything.
[00:49]	schestowitz	typical
[00:49]	schestowitz	his victim was "unworthy"
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Windows is a remaining value product. The thing was built shoddily a long time ago and expanded with ticky tacky throughout the years. It's not surprising you'd be cutting sales and evangelism jobs when the people who are buying more licenses are dwindling and were using it all along anyway and now need it to run legacy applications.
[00:52]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: when firing means deportationm
[00:53]	schestowitz	and financial ruin
[00:53]	DaemonFC	It is not unlike an aging shopping mall from the 70s that started losing anchor tenants and now struggles to keep an Applebee's and a gym.
[00:53]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: will quote?
[00:53]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[00:53]	schestowitz	ok
[00:54]	DaemonFC	It's the same phenomenon that's going on with the mall. They can't use 90% of the space anymore no matter how hard they try.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	So it gets bought out in a dilapidated state by slumlord after slumlord until the city buys it just to demolish it because it's turning into a place for squatters and criminals.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	The market has fundamentally changed.
[00:55]	MinceR	pray i do not alter it any further
[00:55]	DaemonFC	There are alternatives that require little effort and offer more, and people don't have the funds for the eccentricities they used to have.
[00:55]	schestowitz	now doing a post about UEFI
[00:56]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I went to Mall Wart today to have them balance one of my tires, again.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	It chucked another wheel weight.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	So I went shopping for odds and ends and it wasn't so bad really.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	Until I got to a checkout and realized there's only two human cashiers left.
[00:57]	DaemonFC	So I aimed for one of those and it was much more pleasant than a "self-checkout".
[00:57]	starstreak	techrights = infowars
[00:57]	DaemonFC	They put in so many self-checks because they don't want you to feel like you have a choice.
[00:57]	DaemonFC	It's dark psychology.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	So there's all these people here doing unpaid labor for the store they shop at, who could be accused of stealing things that didn't scan.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	And sweating and straining to lift stuff.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	And I'm over there and the lady is scanning and bagging everything for me.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	Richard Stallman said he steers clear of self-checkouts and says "When you use those, you're putting people out of a job." as he goes by.
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jul 19
[01:00]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I'm not being paid by Walmart. They can fuck right off.
[01:00]	DaemonFC	You know. When they want to pay me $15 an hour for the time it takes to bag my goods and pay for them, I'll consider it.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	They don't want to do that. They figure if it takes 6 minutes to bag everything and pay, they save $1.60 in labor by not paying an employee.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	That's all it is. You have thousands of people going through those things, it adds up.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	At least to a bean counter at corporate.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	But studies show that you get more theft than it saves in labor costs.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of reasons for this.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	It's easier to slip past them with something you didn't pay for.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	You don't have to look a person who works there in the eye and know you're stealing.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	So the psychological threshold to start taking things is lower.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	People are less likely to do things they'll feel bad about. I mean, not everyone feels bad about doing things that are objectively wrong. Like, take mjg59_ for example.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	He switched from doing useful work in exchange for money into carrying water for Microsoft.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	What he's doing to the world is worse than going to Walmart and stealing a TV and running out with it.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	It costs everyone in the world who uses a computer something whether they realize it or not.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	There's people who won't knowingly do wrong, there are the people who know it's wrong but it's a paycheck (Matt), and there's people in-between who do wrong but figure out some way why it's not really all that bad in the bigger picture so they can sleep better.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	The people in between are most people.
[01:06]	DaemonFC	Like, there are people who will steal but won't cheat on their spouse. There are people who will dangerously speed but won't shoplift and aren't a pedophile. I mean, everyone does something wrong, and has their limits.
[01:07]	DaemonFC	I mean, you may well find me driving 90 in the 55 but I do have a moral core in most other ways.
[01:07]	DaemonFC	Speeding is "illegal, but not evil".
[01:08]	DaemonFC	It's arguably "dangerous to the community" and therefore against the law, but few would argue that speeding is the moral equivalent of rape.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	I say arguably because the government deliberately sets the speed limit to "old grandma" because it wants to write bigger tickets and make more money.
[01:09]	DaemonFC	So a road where 50 is safe can often have a speed limit of 30.
[01:10]	DaemonFC	So everyone who speeds is effectively "substituting their own sensibility for the priorities of the state". And that alone is something the state does not like one little bit.
[01:10]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/police-refuses-to-enforce-law/
[01:10]	schestowitz	typos?
[01:10]	TR Bot	 2 Weeks Later and the City of London Police Took No Action Against Fraudsters Who Defrauded Their Staff (People Who Worked on Computer Systems of the Mets Overlords) | Techrights
[01:10]	DaemonFC	Once you can go "The government is bullshit, there's nothing even out here to hit. I'm going to do 50 in a 30, fuck them!" where does it end?
[01:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz They enforce one type of law. The one that means large fines.
[01:11]	DaemonFC	And they only do it to people who can't fight back and are unlikely to vote to change things.
[01:12]	DaemonFC	The Waukegan Police are so corrupt that they were basically former Mayor Cunningham's goon squad.
[01:12]	DaemonFC	They would NOT investigate him, so he was raping and groping people and they wouldn't even take the complaints.
[01:12]	starstreak	https://archive.org/details/AlexJonesRichardStallman51809Pt14XAZpqU3jcS4
[01:12]	TR Bot	 Alex Jones: Richard Stallman Interview : InfoWars : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
[01:12]	DaemonFC	One victim asked why and the cop at the desk says, "Why do you think?"
[01:16]	elusive_woman	DaemonFC: you're an idiot, self checkout is better
[01:17]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: this saga could very well go on till next year
[01:18]	schestowitz	cover-up
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I called Discover Bank.
[01:23]	DaemonFC	I reported a security problem with their website with steps to exploit it and how to fix it.
[01:23]	DaemonFC	It would reveal your online banking password to anyone with access to your phone's web browser.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/07/19/i-found-and-reported-a-security-vulnerability-on-discover-banks-mobile-web-site/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 I Found and Reported a Security Vulnerability on Discover Banks Mobile Web Site. | BaronHK's Rants
[01:31]	TR News	Cameo Layoffs Leave Video App With Fewer Than 50 Employees https://www.thewrap.com/cameo-layoffs-50-employees-remain/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 Cameo Layoffs Leave Video App With Fewer Than 50 Employees
[01:32]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: The Argument for UEFI Restricted Boot is Dead
[01:32]	schestowitz	working on it...
[01:33]	schestowitz	26/7 ish there will be disclosure here (obligatory)
[01:33]	schestowitz	https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11014042/filing-history
[01:33]	TR Bot	 SIRIUS OPEN SOURCE LTD filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK
[01:33]	schestowitz	the scandal helps exposure a very large-scale and high-level systemic rot
[01:34]	schestowitz	so this can linger on until next yeaer
[01:34]	schestowitz	the criminals send me emails alreaady
[01:34]	schestowitz	sort of begging
[01:34]	schestowitz	they know what they did 
[01:35]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: draft http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/uefi-restricted-boot-is-monopoly/
[01:35]	TR Bot	 The Argument for UEFI Restricted Boot is Dead | Techrights
[01:37]	starstreak	lol
[01:37]	starstreak	"im a boomer and im too dumb to turn off secure boot"
[01:37]	schestowitz	you cannot
[01:38]	schestowitz	anywa, troll harder
[01:38]	schestowitz	also: apply AGAIN for Microsoft jobs
[01:38]	starstreak	you're the one who works for microsoft
[01:39]	starstreak	they pay you to run a cult and make free software supporters look like lunatics
[01:40]	starstreak	how do you pay your bills when you were fired from sirius for not using zoom? right, microsoft pays you
[01:41]	starstreak	and actually, when i switched from fedora to arch, i had to go into my bios and turn off secure boot, and it let me
[01:41]	starstreak	i have a dell
[01:41]	starstreak	fedora did work on secure boot
[01:42]	DaemonFC	I'm not a boomer.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	That was like 20 years before I was born I think. The tail end of the "boomers" was.
[01:42]	starstreak	fedora even had a cool UEFI logo
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Hell, Traci Lords isn't even technically a boomer.
[01:43]	starstreak	<schestowitz> you cannot
[01:43]	starstreak	bullshit
[01:43]	DaemonFC	And at this point I'd refer to her as a MILF.
[01:44]	DaemonFC	The 1980s was different and that's why nothing terribly serious happened to anyone involved in those incidents.
[01:44]	TR News	The Murdoch Journal (WSJ): "Microsoft and Activision Blizzard Still Committed to $75 Billion Merger, Sources Say". How is that EVEN NEWS??? This is just shallow lobbying.
[01:44]	DaemonFC	Society hadn't "evolved" yet to consider people in their 20s as "infants".
[01:44]	DaemonFC	It's getting there though.
[01:44]	DaemonFC	You can be on your mom and dad's health insurance until you're 26. You can't buy cigarettes until you're 21.
[01:45]	DaemonFC	There's a movement saying nobody under 25 should be able to buy legal weed.
[01:45]	DaemonFC	I mean, it's inching up there. I think it's safe to say that for a lot of purposes 21 is the new 18.
[01:45]	DaemonFC	And it begs the question.
[01:45]	TR News	Amazon lays off more people and inadvertently unveils new strategy to mass fire employees https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/amazon-lays-off-more-people-and-inadvertently-unveils-new-strategy-to-mass-fire-employees-12882372.html
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Amazon lays off more people and inadvertently unveils new strategy to mass fire employees
[01:45]	DaemonFC	Does this mean the US military is recruiting child soldiers?
[01:45]	TR News	The Argument for UEFI Restricted Boot is Dead | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/uefi-restricted-boot-is-monopoly/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/uefi-restricted-boot-is-monopoly/
[01:45]	TR Bot	 The Argument for UEFI Restricted Boot is Dead | Techrights
[01:46]	DaemonFC	Like if you can't smoke or drink until 21 and nobody really has any expectations of you until then, then you're still a child, right?
[01:46]	DaemonFC	So like, the 80s, right?
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[01:47]	DaemonFC	Traci Lords was like 16 and 17.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	They pulled the videos off the shelf, but they didn't take any serious legal action against most of the people involved.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	Hell, one guy in California was even selling the tapes after everyone knew what had been going on through a newspaper ad.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	The local cops busted him and he was convicted, of a Class C Misdemeanor, for selling 26 video tapes of an underage Traci Lords.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	In 1987 I think.
[01:48]	XRevan86	https://youtu.be/tHAmpUyfyy4
[01:48]	TR Bot	https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=tHAmpUyfyy4
[01:48]	TR Bot	invidious.lunar.icu | Did Andrew Tate lie to Tucker Carlson? - Invidious
[01:48]	DaemonFC	A Class C Misdemeanor for selling child porn. A Class C Misdemeanor is like, throwing a McDonalds bag out your car window.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	And that's all he got charged with.
[01:49]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D656.jpg
[01:49]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D982.jpg
[01:49]	XRevan86	https://politico.com/news/2023/07/17/desantis-pac-ai-generated-trump-in-ad-00106695
[01:49]	TR Bot	PAC uses AI-generated Trump voice in ad attacking ex-president - POLITICO
[01:49]	DaemonFC	Matt GULAG thinks I'm Public Enemy #1 because of a Class C Misdemeanor I think.
[01:50]	DaemonFC	He see me rollin'. He hatin'.
[01:50]	TR News	So it's been a month, huh? gemini://laniakea.rodoste.de/journal/2023-07-18-so-its-been-a-month-it-seems.gmi
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[01:51]	DaemonFC	There's no rational person who thinks that there should be serious punishment involved for a Class C Misdemeanor.
[01:51]	TR News	"In this guide, I'd like to share with you how to install Alpine Linux, so it runs entirely from RAM, but using its built-in tool to handle persistency. Perfect setup for a NAS or router, so you don't waste a disk for the system, and this can even be used for a workstation." gopher://dataswamp.org:70/1/~solene/article-alpine-linux-from-ram-but-persistent
[01:51]	DaemonFC	Except maybe people in Singapore.
[01:52]	starstreak	The Argument against UEFI Secure Boot is Lies
[01:52]	DaemonFC	"How do you plead?" Guilty. "Pick up litter for a week and pay a $500 fine."
[01:52]	TR News	Melody Chop Shop gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/07/18/melody-chop-shop.gmi
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[01:53]	TR News	Old Computer Challenge V3 gopher://phlog.z3bra.org/0/old-computer-challenge-v3.txt
[01:53]	DaemonFC	I mean, a lot of people who have ended up picking up trash by the road are never going to throw a McDonalds bag out the window again. And losing $500 kind of sucks.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	So that's enough.
[01:54]	TR News	"Added [Gila2023], which presents zip-zip trees, which claim to offer the balanced depth of a treap or binary search tree that has been constructed with uniform random insertions, while being strongly history independent." gemini://dcreager.net/2023/07/18-reading-log.gmi
[01:54]	DaemonFC	A fair justice system imposes enough punishment to reform the offender and no more. If the offender cannot be reformed, then it escalates until we don't hear about that guy again.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	I mean, there's very few people out there who think that there should be no punishment at all. That wouldn't work very well either.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	The few that think like that are running Illinois now.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	The end of cash bail was upheld.
[01:55]	TR News	ANTENNA DOWNTIME TOMORROW AS WELL gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2023-07-18-antenna-downtime-tomorrow-as-well.gmi "Renovating takes more time than it should"
[01:55]	DaemonFC	Guess what happens next.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	We already have murderers rolling around for years "on bail". They bought their way out with drug money.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	Then they get pinched killing or robbing again.
[01:56]	TR News	EU https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/metas-threads-didnt-launch-in-the-eu-is-that-showing-the-failure-or-success-of-the-digital-markets-act/ | Source: Techdirt
[01:56]	TR Bot	Threads Didnt Launch In The EU: Is That Showing The Failure Or Success Of The Digital Markets Act? | Techdirt
[01:56]	DaemonFC	Imagine what it'll be like when (1) they don't have to pay anything to get out and (2) the state can't even have them remanded to custody unless they can PROVE a threat to an ACTUAL PERSON.
[01:56]	DaemonFC	The standard of "He allegedly killed already and is a danger to everyone." is not good enough in Illinois for a remand anymore.
[01:57]	TR News	GNU Shepherd 0.10.2 released https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2023-07/msg00004.html
[01:57]	TR Bot	 GNU Shepherd 0.10.2 released
[01:57]	DaemonFC	The prosecutor has to go tell the judge "He's planning to kill Jane Smith at 123 Anywhere Place Apartment C in Waukegan, Illinois if you let him go!" or else they just let him go, even though he's already killed and will probably not show up for his trial.
[01:58]	DaemonFC	This is what the Democrats have given us and it starts in two months.
[01:58]	DaemonFC	mjg59_: Do you think this is a good idea?
[01:58]	DaemonFC	starstreak: Do you?
[01:58]	DaemonFC	Do you blame me for voting for Darren Bailey now?
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[02:07]	TR News	Global inflation expectations remain high despite central bank interventions https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/23894-global-inflation-expectations-remain-high-despite-central-bank-interventions.html
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[02:08]	TR News	JUVE, a sponsored propagandist of illegal agenda (pushing for illegal patent 'court'), on the corrupt EPO upholding its own decisions https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/epo-upholds-compugen-patent-for-immunotherapy-cancer-treatment/
[02:08]	TR Bot	 EPO upholds Compugen patent for immunotherapy cancer treatment - JUVE Patent
[02:08]	TR News	Vision Works IP automotive patent challenged https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/7/14/vision-works-ip-automotive-patent-challenged
[02:08]	TR Bot	 Vision Works IP automotive patent challenged Unified Patents
[02:09]	TR News	$2,000 for Jeffrey M. Gross entity, Gametronics, signal control patent prior art https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/7/17/2000-for-jeffrey-m-gross-entity-gametronics-signal-control-patent-prior-art
[02:09]	TR Bot	 $2,000 for Jeffrey M. Gross entity, Gametronics, signal control patent prior art Unified Patents
[02:09]	TR News	EPOs Patent Invalidity and Low Patent Quality Issues Get the Attention of Christian Wichard (Deputy Director General at Germanys Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection) http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/christian-wichard-and-epo/
[02:09]	TR Bot	 EPOs Patent Invalidity and Low Patent Quality Issues Get the Attention of Christian Wichard (Deputy Director General at Germanys Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection) | Techrights
[02:10]	TR News	More Red Flags in Proxima Systems http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/deeper-look-at-proxima-systems/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 More Red Flags in Proxima Systems | Techrights
[02:11]	TR News	GDPR, Greater London Authoritys Web Site (or GLA IT in General), and Data Breaches http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/gdpr-gla/
[02:11]	TR Bot	 GDPR, Greater London Authoritys Web Site (or GLA IT in General), and Data Breaches | Techrights
[02:11]	TR News	[Meme] Truth is Not Tolerated in This Industry (Because Truth Doesnt Look Good) http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/truth-doesnt-look-good/
[02:11]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Truth is Not Tolerated in This Industry (Because Truth Doesnt Look Good) | Techrights
[02:11]	TR News	[Meme] When Obeying Laws Means Making Less Money http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/obeying-laws-and-profits/
[02:11]	TR Bot	 [Meme] When Obeying Laws Means Making Less Money | Techrights
[02:11]	TR News	Tough Times for Invidious and Odysee (LBRY Protocol) http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/fate-of-lbry-protocol/
[02:11]	TR Bot	 Tough Times for Invidious and Odysee (LBRY Protocol) | Techrights
[02:12]	TR News	 (NEW): GNU Shepherd 0.10.2, Meson 1.2, and GNU/Linux Desktop Genome Browsers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/GNU_Shepherd_0_10_2_Meson_1_2_and_GNU_Linux_Desktop_Genome_Brow.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/GNU_Shepherd_0_10_2_Meson_1_2_and_GNU_Linux_Desktop_Genome_Brow.gmi 
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU Shepherd 0.10.2, Meson 1.2, and GNU/Linux Desktop Genome Browsers
[02:12]	TR News	 (NEW): IBM/Red Hat: Lying (Sponsored) Media, AlmaLinux to 'Fork' RHEL, and Fedora Magazine http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/IBM_Red_Hat_Lying_Sponsored_Media_AlmaLinux_to_Fork_RHEL_and_Fe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/IBM_Red_Hat_Lying_Sponsored_Media_AlmaLinux_to_Fork_RHEL_and_Fe.gmi 
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines IBM/Red Hat: Lying (Sponsored) Media, AlmaLinux to 'Fork' RHEL, and Fedora Magazine
[02:12]	TR News	 (NEW): Content Management Systems (CMS): OffSec Chooses Kiwi TCMS and Shirish Agarwal Rants About Cookies in WordPress http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_OffSec_Chooses_Kiwi_TCMS_and_Shi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_OffSec_Chooses_Kiwi_TCMS_and_Shi.gmi 
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Content Management Systems (CMS): OffSec Chooses Kiwi TCMS and Shirish Agarwal Rants About Cookies in WordPress
[02:12]	TR News	 (NEW): My Report From Akademy 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/My_Report_From_Akademy_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/My_Report_From_Akademy_2023.gmi 
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines My Report From Akademy 2023
[02:15]	starstreak	AlmaLinux to 'Fork' RHEL
[02:15]	starstreak	good
[02:17]	starstreak	they can make their own distro instead of just rebranding RHEL for cheapskates
[02:19]	TR News	WOW! Now that the news is out Microsoft laid off OVER A THOUSAND last week Microsoft seems to have Googlebombed with chaff... to push that out of view/visibility
[02:19]	starstreak	OVER NINE THOUSAND!
[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:20]	TR News	All those things aren't even clickable again
[02:20]	MinceR	finally they can remake the same systemd/Linux distro with extra effort instead of just rebranding the distro they already like
[02:21]	TR News	What goes on inside Microsoft and what will all those liars (who last week said over 200+ employees were laid off) do? Will there be follow-up stories to correct what they wrote?
[02:25]	TR News	"From time to time I need to work with web APIs. These normally allow computers to communicate online. But, it might be necessary for people to work with APIs to connect a business to a new service or to automate tasks." gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-07-18-web-api-articles.gmi
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[02:26]	TR News	the internet feels like it's dying gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/fragile2
[02:27]	TR News	"Its weird how the shift from workers vs owners to pluralists vs populists has been presented as this new phenomenon by commentators like Norris and Inglehart, the latter arguing that its because of how the new generation has new values." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/populism
[02:27]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Well, it's mostly going to be the same thing unless IBM changes their policy to hide more of the source code and threaten people who use it.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	Right now the only thing that's really "affected" much is the specific kernel that RHEL itself uses.
[02:28]	TR News	"One is when people use it to shut down others. The difference between I need a break from thinking about this vs you need to give up! You need to stop trying!. The latter is whats not OK." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/doomers-over-the-line
[02:28]	DaemonFC	The entire userspace is still in a public repo.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	So you could technically rebuild the same exact userspace that RHEL uses and run it on top of a kernel you got out of CentOS Stream if you wanted to and you'd have very nearly RHEL anyway.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	This is basically being done for FUD purposes.
[02:29]	TR News	Free Speech gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-04-30-free-speech.gmi "I hesitated to even write this, but it needs said. I did tone it down just a bit, in the interest of legitimate dialogue."
[02:29]	DaemonFC	"Well, it's not THE ACTUAL SAME KERNEL."
[02:29]	MinceR	maybe dehomag will create a tool that puts a distro image together from systemd, Linux, gnome and whatever odd piece they haven't replaced or assimilated yet
[02:29]	DaemonFC	Well, as far as I know the kernel doesn't affect userspace programs very much as a matter of policy, and the CentOS kernel is just a little ahead of RHEL as far as patches that they're not sure about yet.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	But it's still a very conservative and RHEL-like kernel.
[02:29]	MinceR	if they manage to make their tiny minds up on which they want: "every Linux distro should be identical to ours" or "nobody should be able to replicate rHELL"
[02:30]	MinceR	they seem to be confused currently.
[02:30]	psydruid	Demagogue OS
[02:30]	MinceR	or maybe they want everyone to copy fedora, not rHELL
[02:30]	MinceR	i suspect there's not a lot of difference
[02:30]	DaemonFC	RHEL userspace (public repo) plus CentOS Stream kernel = like 99.987% RHEL.
[02:30]	DaemonFC	So the FUD comes from "Yeah but it's not 100%."
[02:31]	MinceR	or maybe they just want to ban everyone else from distributing Linux, just haven't figured out a way to do it
[02:31]	DaemonFC	You don't have to use the rest of CentOS Stream as a base. Just the kernel.
[02:31]	psydruid	last time I tried rHELL it was even worse than any version of FEDora
[02:31]	starstreak	so just use something else
[02:31]	psydruid	they should just ban everyone from using Linux
[02:31]	starstreak	debian.org
[02:31]	DaemonFC	RHEL is sort of an "old Fedora on rails".
[02:31]	psydruid	that should teach those freeloaders
[02:32]	DaemonFC	They drop a lot of features that Fedora has to force you to a KNOWN (to them) configuration.
[02:32]	psydruid	freebsd.org
[02:32]	DaemonFC	That means no KDE desktop or BtrFS.
[02:32]	psydruid	netbsd.org
[02:32]	psydruid	openbsd.org
[02:32]	starstreak	some people think free software means it doesn't cost anything
[02:32]	psydruid	Illumos.org
[02:32]	MinceR	deadian just replicated fedora with a lot of effort
[02:32]	DaemonFC	In 2017, they dropped BtrFS at a technology preview because they felt it was unworkable and unsupportable.
[02:32]	MinceR	windows.org
[02:32]	TR News	Links 18/07/2023: Free Speech and Tech Illiteracy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/tech-illiteracy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/tech-illiteracy/
[02:32]	psydruid	haiku.org
[02:32]	DaemonFC	Those damn Germans ran with it though.
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Links 18/07/2023: Free Speech and Tech Illiteracy | Techrights
[02:32]	DaemonFC	(SUSE)
[02:33]	DaemonFC	But what do you expect from the people who brought you BMW, and YaST?
[02:33]	MinceR	dunno, they had some better products too
[02:33]	schestowitz	yast2
[02:33]	DaemonFC	The Germans have one good product I found for my car.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	That Liqui Moly flush.
[02:33]	MinceR	same for my previous car
[02:33]	DaemonFC	That got all the junk out of the engine that was causing those oil pressure issues.
[02:33]	MinceR	the bosch aerotwin windscreen wiper blades
[02:34]	psydruid	SUSE is more usable on the desktop than anything from Red Bait
[02:34]	DaemonFC	Ask a mechanic who is actually good at what they do what they use in their car.
[02:34]	DaemonFC	Before you attempt to just "pour a bottle of crap" in it.
[02:34]	MinceR	that's a very low bar
[02:34]	psydruid	it's just a shame they are in on the Secure Boot scam
[02:35]	MinceR	every time i attempted to use [open]suse it was a disaster
[02:35]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of really sketchy things at auto parts stores.
[02:35]	DaemonFC	You wouldn't think an air filter could cause transmission damage, would you? K&N does.
[02:35]	psydruid	so I had to remove it even as my backup OS
[02:35]	starstreak	i use arch btw
[02:35]	DaemonFC	You can actually damage the transmission in many GM cars with a K&N oil gauze air filter.
[02:35]	DaemonFC	Sold in every auto parts store, and Walmart!
[02:36]	psydruid	arch is broken by design btw
[02:36]	DaemonFC	You go "How?" There's a GM TSB about it.
[02:36]	starstreak	lmao
[02:36]	DaemonFC	It gets oil all over your MAF sensor then the thing gives an inaccurate reading to the PCM, then it runs the transmission with too little fluid pressure and blows out the gears.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	Whoops.
[02:36]	starstreak	i know a bunch of people use it without problems
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Well, you know, it's always something you never thought was possible, isn't it?
[02:37]	DaemonFC	An air filter, for your engine, that can do thousands of dollars damage to the transmission.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	K&N
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180723.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-180723.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-180723.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-180723.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 18, 2023
[02:38]	DaemonFC	The only thing GM says to do about it is it's not a warranty issue. Bill the customer for any damage. Change it to a PAPER air filter and tell them to pray there was no serious damage done.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	But GM never goes to the customer and says don't do this.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	It's not in ANY owner's manual.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	They don't even have an (official) procedure for cleaning the oil off the MAF sensor.
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[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 18, 2023
[02:39]	DaemonFC	You can usually do it with MAF sensor cleaner, but of course the dealer will say you need a new MAF sensor.
[02:39]	DaemonFC	"I can do that!!!......for money."
[02:39]	TR News	Links 18/07/2023: Meson 1.2 and More Microsoft Layoffs, Amazon Layoffs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/meson-1-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/meson-1-2/
[02:39]	TR Bot	 Links 18/07/2023: Meson 1.2 and More Microsoft Layoffs, Amazon Layoffs | Techrights
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[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, July 18, 2023
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[02:46]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi 
[02:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[02:47]	schestowitz	sniff sniff
[02:47]	DaemonFC	"Get a FREE A/C Quick Check from the Pros" Spam from Pep Boys.
[02:48]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I'm going to give the people who don't know how to use a laser alignment machine with a computer telling them what to do permission to work on my car's air conditioner.
[02:48]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:48]	DaemonFC	I'd probably do less damage to it myself with a $40 kit from Walmart.
[02:49]	TR News	42 Open-source Laravel Packages To Enrich Your Laravel Project https://medevel.com/42-os-laravel-packages/
[02:49]	TR Bot	 42 Open-source Laravel Packages To Enrich Your Laravel Project
[02:49]	DaemonFC	It's actually not that expensive to recharge an air conditioner at a Car-X shop.
[02:49]	DaemonFC	They charge like $90 to recharge an air conditioner.
[02:50]	TR News	Josef Strzibny: Running SASS and Tailwind side by side in Rails https://nts.strzibny.name/running-sass-and-tailwind-side-by-side-rails/
[02:50]	TR Bot	 Running SASS and Tailwind side by side in Rails
[02:50]	starstreak	gemini - for people with really old computers that can't run the modern web with 2gb ram
[02:50]	TR News	40 Open-source Laravel Projects https://medevel.com/33-os-for-laravel-developers/
[02:50]	TR Bot	 40 Open-source Laravel Projects
[02:50]	DaemonFC	If you do it yourself correctly you'll need to know for sure how much freon you're putting in and how much is in there already. Which you can't know even if your kit includes a gauge. It will measure the pressure on the low side port, which if the thing is empty because it leaked out, that's probably(?) okay usually.
[02:50]	DaemonFC	Except that it's not.
[02:50]	TR News	Lingo3D: Open-source 3D Game Development Framework with React https://medevel.com/lingo3d/
[02:50]	TR Bot	 Lingo3D: Open-source 3D Game Development Framework with React
[02:51]	DaemonFC	You still have a leak somewhere and you're supposed to flush the system whenever you evacuate and recharge it.
[02:51]	DaemonFC	So instead of like $40-50 and getting it wrong, pay the $90 and let a mechanic do it.
[02:51]	TR News	No, Spain's environment minister didnt take a private jet to a climate conference https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20230717-no-the-spanish-minister-for-ecological-transition-didn-t-take-a-private-jet-to-a-climate-conference
[02:51]	TR Bot	 No, Spain's environment minister didnt take a private jet to a climate conference
[02:52]	DaemonFC	I've recharged an air conditioner myself before. In 2004 the air conditioner stopped working on my Chevy Corsica and I recharged it and it blew ice cold air again as long as I had the car. A couple more years. Sold it. Dunno how long that charge lasted.
[02:52]	DaemonFC	I got my $20 worth.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	I had a long commute at the time so there was no way I was going to be in a hot car for an hour each way down the interstate.
[02:53]	TR News	"Relentless" heat wave spreads across southern U.S. https://www.axios.com/2023/07/16/brutal-heat-wave-peaks-southwest-records-set
[02:53]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/16/brutal-heat-wave-peaks-southwest-records-set )
[02:54]	TR News	Extreme weather shows how climate is going off the rails https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/heat-waves-extreme-weather-globe-climate
[02:54]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/heat-waves-extreme-weather-globe-climate )
[02:55]	DaemonFC	[Tuesday 8:53:59pm]techrights-news"Relentless" heat wave spreads across southern U.S. https://www.axios.com/2023/07/16/brutal-heat-wave-peaks-southwest-records-set
[02:55]	DaemonFC	I liked the news in the UK while people were dying in the heat.
[02:55]	DaemonFC	"Heat wave be freakin' me out! Heat wave be freakin' me out!"
[02:55]	DaemonFC	They say the US media is trash.
[02:55]	schestowitz	uk has no heat wave
[02:55]	schestowitz	since May or early June
[02:56]	DaemonFC	Not right NOW.
[02:56]	schestowitz	right
[02:56]	DaemonFC	This was like last year or something.
[02:56]	schestowitz	thankfully
[02:56]	schestowitz	perfect temperature this past month
[02:56]	schestowitz	and lots of water
[02:56]	DaemonFC	It's the perfect temperature in my apartment.
[02:56]	DaemonFC	66 degrees fahrenheit.
[02:56]	schestowitz	you might be paying for it
[02:56]	DaemonFC	We can have sexist air conditioning because we're both men.
[02:56]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:57]	schestowitz	don't go there!!
[02:57]	TR News	"Modellingreleased on Tuesday shows renewables construction and installation costs rising by one-fifth on average, but the energy source remains more cost effective than new gas or coal plants." https://michaelwest.com.au/renewable-energy-projects-not-immune-to-inflation-sting/ | Source: Michael West Media
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[02:57]	DaemonFC	The air conditioner picture that said "LOL, show me your tits!"
[02:57]	DaemonFC	That made me laugh.
[02:57]	DaemonFC	Response to the woke trolls.
[02:57]	DaemonFC	Sick burn.
[02:57]	DaemonFC	Men have higher metabilisms.
[02:57]	DaemonFC	metabolisms 
[02:58]	DaemonFC	Anyway...
[02:58]	DaemonFC	Women can put more clothes ON if they're cold.
[02:58]	DaemonFC	What do you want men to do? Go around naked?
[02:58]	DaemonFC	Like DrPizza?
[02:58]	DaemonFC	So we don't overheat?
[02:59]	schestowitz	it is worth for men
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[02:59]	schestowitz	they do better in winter
[02:59]	schestowitz	worse in hot summers
[02:59]	schestowitz	and I'm like 95KG
[02:59]	schestowitz	so to cool down it's harder
[02:59]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I have the dehumidifier set to "comfort". It's usually not running unless I turn off the air conditioner for a while. Then it becomes humid in here, so that turns on and sucks out the humidity so the air conditioner doesn't freeze over when I turn it on again.
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[03:00]	DaemonFC	And I have all kinds of air purifiers.
[03:00]	DaemonFC	So the air quality in here was still very good even while it looked like hell outside because of Canada.
[03:00]	DaemonFC	I love liberals. "We're gonna plant trees to offset duh carbon!"
[03:00]	DaemonFC	Later, all the trees catch fire.
[03:00]	DaemonFC	At once.
[03:01]	DaemonFC	Release the KRAKEN! Errr, carbon.
[03:01]	DaemonFC	I mean, you have to stand in awe of how dumb these motherfuckers are.
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[03:03]	DaemonFC	If they thinned out the forests that are BURNING and spewing all kinds of shit everywhere, and made some furniture and houses and stuff out of the wood, the fires might not be going so badly right now.
[03:03]	DaemonFC	This is what you get with NIMBYs and BANANAs and environmentalists.
[03:04]	TR News	TextToSpeech improvements for Qt 6.6 https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-texttospeech-improvements-in-qt-6.6
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[03:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I'm not sure how many houses were built in a brutalist style.
[03:04]	DaemonFC	That would be kind of cool I think.
[03:04]	DaemonFC	Not a lot of stuff to do. No new roof every 10 years.
[03:04]	TR News	Espressif ESP-SR enables on-device speech recognition framework on ESP32-S3 and ESP32 WiSoCs https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/07/17/espressif-esp-sr-enables-on-device-speech-recognition-framework-on-esp32-s3-and-esp32-wisocs/
[03:04]	TR Bot	 Espressif ESP-SR enables on-device speech recognition framework on ESP32-S3 and ESP32 WiSoCs - CNX Software
[03:04]	starstreak	schestowitz, are you saying climate change is fake too?
[03:05]	DaemonFC	Pour some concrete and reinforce it with steel.
[03:05]	DaemonFC	We got us a house.
[03:05]	schestowitz	are you saying you did not apply for work at Microsoft?
[03:05]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: worse now
[03:05]	schestowitz	how they make homes
[03:05]	schestowitz	and how long they last
[03:05]	DaemonFC	DEI.....Here's the Nazi, here's the person who had a vaginaplasty.....
[03:05]	starstreak	oooooo burn
[03:05]	DaemonFC	See, Microsoft is neurodiverse.
[03:06]	schestowitz	it is now even that
[03:06]	schestowitz	neurodiverse person told us it's fake
[03:06]	schestowitz	but Micrrosoft DOES hire nazis
[03:06]		*starstreak puts aloe vera on herself
[03:06]	schestowitz	*not even that
[03:06]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Cantrell and more.
[03:06]	schestowitz	we published some articles about that 
[03:06]	schestowitz	neurodiverse is a lie
[03:06]	schestowitz	microsoft uses that for marketing
[03:06]	schestowitz	look, we work for nazis
[03:07]	schestowitz	but we have indian CEO
[03:07]	starstreak	so you're saying autism isn't real?
[03:07]	schestowitz	who has no real power
[03:07]	schestowitz	and we made some web page about "neurodiverse" people
[03:07]	schestowitz	which we used to recruit nazis
[03:07]	schestowitz	who stab colleagues
[03:08]	MinceR	19 040438 < DaemonFC> Not a lot of stuff to do. No new roof every 10 years.
[03:08]	MinceR	yeah, i'm not so sure about that
[03:08]	MinceR	i've attempted to live in a concrete box, and it's not really practical
[03:08]	DaemonFC	Communist leftovers?
[03:08]	schestowitz	berlin has those too
[03:08]	MinceR	especially since the comrades decided that insulation was for the decadent west and for the comrades themselves.
[03:08]	schestowitz	to this date
[03:09]	DaemonFC	LOL
[03:09]	MinceR	Berlin also has much less shitty buildings
[03:09]	schestowitz	i know someone whose roof fell due to lack of insulation
[03:09]	schestowitz	the roof was rotting
[03:09]	schestowitz	fell on his head one day
[03:09]	MinceR	but hey, at least they designed the concrete box for their known target audience: the doors are sized so that starving people can fit through.
[03:09]	schestowitz	only part of it
[03:09]	starstreak	<schestowitz> neurodiverse is a lie
[03:09]	schestowitz	had to go to hospital
[03:09]	starstreak	autism isn't real
[03:09]	schestowitz	was in his 70s
[03:10]	schestowitz	building homes cheaply does not mean saving money
[03:10]	schestowitz	starstreak: your have reading comprehension issues
[03:11]	schestowitz	MinceR: depends whether east or west
[03:11]	schestowitz	the east gave us "aggi" activelow
[03:12]	starstreak	climate change isn't real, vaccines are a hoax, nazis deserve free speech, street art is vandalism, woke is bad, democrats evil
[03:12]	starstreak	drugs are bad
[03:13]	schestowitz	lies are bad
[03:13]	schestowitz	try avoiding them
[03:13]	schestowitz	and yes, drugs are bad (the ones you took)
[03:14]	starstreak	you're right wing
[03:14]	schestowitz	you are full of it
[03:14]	DaemonFC	Democrats are evil.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	They're extremely racist and they're globalists.
[03:14]	starstreak	lol techrights is the infowars of the free software community
[03:14]	starstreak	a cult of lunatics
[03:15]	DaemonFC	They put blacks in dire poverty and close their schools then throw them scraps for votes.
[03:15]	MinceR	"games are bad! they make you mad!"
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[03:15]	bnchs	starstreak: irony, alex jones interviewed richard stallman 3 times in infowars
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[03:16]	MinceR	"everyone i don't like is right wing"
[03:17]	schestowitz	bnchs: not irony
[03:17]	schestowitz	i doubt rms made the right call there, though
[03:18]	schestowitz	even a little audience would not be worth the bad association
[03:18]	schestowitz	i guess some idiots would not asserts RMS is "right wing"
[03:19]	MinceR	they'd find some other reason
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[03:21]	schestowitz	RMS supports abortion
[03:21]	schestowitz	that's not only ableist
[03:21]	schestowitz	but also very vewy verwwwy wight wing
[03:22]	immibis	starstreak is the only sane and correct person hrere
[03:22]	schestowitz	a[rp[ps
[03:22]	schestowitz	when I called out Spamnil
[03:22]	schestowitz	he started calling me Trump and stuff
[03:22]	schestowitz	based on nothing
[03:22]	schestowitz	because, to him, anyone he did not like was just Trump
[03:22]	schestowitz	this distracts from real trump supporters
[03:22]	schestowitz	and vaile people
[03:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz Also right wing if he didn't because reasons.
[03:23]	schestowitz	when you start calling everyone "trump"
[03:23]	MinceR	immibis: why should i trust an insane and incorrect person making that assertion?
[03:23]	schestowitz	<immibis> starstreak is the only sane and correct person hrere
[03:23]	schestowitz	right
[03:23]	schestowitz	and we have neandertahls living underground
[03:23]	starstreak	yeah
[03:24]	DaemonFC	Only people who cut their dicks off and scream everyone else is a Nazi are fully sane.
[03:24]	DaemonFC	Maybe even Keith.
[03:24]	schestowitz	anyway, back to tech
[03:24]	XRevan86	Right-wing: "Right to Live", Left-wing: "Right to Choose", Putin wing: "Right to be Chosen to Die".
[03:24]	schestowitz	XRevan86: yours?
[03:25]	schestowitz	with putin you don't even choose
[03:25]	schestowitz	they do conscription 
[03:25]	DaemonFC	"Keith is a given name of Gaelic origin. It means "wood"."
[03:25]	MinceR	putler chooses
[03:25]	DaemonFC	Irony!
[03:25]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I used the passive voice there.
[03:25]	MinceR	or one of his flunkies
[03:25]	schestowitz	Felta 
[03:25]	schestowitz	viking?
[03:26]	schestowitz	going to check the MSFT situation
[03:26]	schestowitz	Microsoft is trying to hide the leaks
[03:27]	schestowitz	lots of layoffs
[03:27]	schestowitz	and each time it's brought up we also get trolled in IRC
[03:27]	schestowitz	not just this summer
[03:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz There have been like 4-5 other Feltas in the entire country since Social Security kept records.
[03:27]	DaemonFC	One of them was my grandfather.
[03:27]	DaemonFC	So that's at least two in my family.
[03:27]	schestowitz	hmmm
[03:27]	DaemonFC	The first record was someone born in 1897 from Social Security.
[03:28]	MinceR	i Felta disturbance in the Force
[03:28]	schestowitz	hm.. could you locate the other two?
[03:28]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's obscure to say the least, but who knows if I could figure out who the others were.
[03:28]	DaemonFC	Maybe they would have been in a released census.
[03:28]	DaemonFC	They take a census every 10 years and they're public records after 70 years I think.
[03:29]	immibis	this channel is constantly trolled by schestowitz and DaemonFC
[03:29]	schestowitz	DaemonFC has been here since 2008
[03:29]	schestowitz	how about you?
[03:29]	DaemonFC	The latest publicly available records are 1950.
[03:30]	starstreak	daemonfc is a nazi tho
[03:30]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: did you not see your dad in person for years?
[03:30]	schestowitz	that would be... weird and sad
[03:30]	DaemonFC	The first publicly released census records I might appear in will be released in 2060 for the 1990 year.
[03:30]	starstreak	DaemonFC: Racism and Transphobia since 2008
[03:30]	DaemonFC	I will be 76 years old.
[03:30]	schestowitz	starstreak: so you would rationalise assulting him
[03:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitzDaemonFC: did you not see your dad in person for years?
[03:31]	DaemonFC	I think the last time I saw my dad was in 2012 or something.
[03:31]	DaemonFC	He doesn't care that I exist.
[03:32]	TR News	Microsoft making a ton of noise right now. Will that distract from the large scale of layoffs it "implemented" silently? IBM did the same.
[03:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I don't think it's personal.
[03:32]	DaemonFC	He also doesn't talk to any of his brothers or sisters.
[03:32]	schestowitz	and your bother?
[03:32]	schestowitz	*brother
[03:32]	DaemonFC	Nope.
[03:32]	schestowitz	hhmmm... bad dad
[03:33]	DaemonFC	He pretty much just does what he wants to do all the time.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Doesn't pay attention to anyone but Jan.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Maybe their cats.
[03:33]	schestowitz	are they married?
[03:33]	schestowitz	no kids, i guess
[03:33]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they got married in 2000 I think.
[03:33]	schestowitz	he learned from the first time
[03:34]	DaemonFC	No.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	Jan is sterile.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	And she hates having kids around because she wanted them and couldn't have them.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	She had lasik eye surgery and it blinded her.
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[03:35]	schestowitz	both eeyes?
[03:35]	DaemonFC	No other doctor would testify against the one at the mall that blinded her but said off the record he blinds a lot of people because he rushes it to get more people through so he can make more money.
[03:35]	DaemonFC	Yep.
[03:35]	DaemonFC	Fucked both of them.
[03:35]	DaemonFC	She said on a good day it's like looking through lace curtains.
[03:36]	DaemonFC	She was a claims adjuster for a health insurance company.
[03:36]	DaemonFC	They fired her because of her disability.
[03:36]	DaemonFC	She didn't get worker's comp.
[03:36]	DaemonFC	They denied her Social Security Disability claim.
[03:36]	DaemonFC	And she's been living off my dad ever since.
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[03:36]	schestowitz	another day in Murica
[03:37]	schestowitz	meanwhile my former boss hide in Washington
[03:37]	DaemonFC	Social Security said there's probably a job for a blind woman so no disability check. Bye.
[03:37]	schestowitz	hides from his ex wives too
[03:37]	schestowitz	made 4 daughters, ran away
[03:37]	schestowitz	stole pension money from his workers, too
[03:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I don't know how far she persisted.
[03:37]	DaemonFC	If she fought it to an administrative law judge or federal court, she would have won after 4-5 years.
[03:37]	schestowitz	capitalism :-)
[03:37]	DaemonFC	So she probably just took no for an answer.
[03:38]	starstreak	suspended Roy cuz he refused to use zoom or answer the phone
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[03:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz Social Security only approves 16% of disability claims on the initial claim.
[03:38]	schestowitz	it is untenable
[03:38]	DaemonFC	You have to have a reconsideration by another DDS, which approves 8% because it's just another person at the same office looking at the same file.
[03:38]	schestowitz	not just think tanks of oligarchs say so
[03:39]	starstreak	"I WONT USE ZOOM! I DEMAND A HUMAN RIGHTS TRIBUNAL!"
[03:39]	schestowitz	they cannot insure what's coming
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Then by the time you get to the ALJ, they'll approve 50-80%.
[03:39]	schestowitz	too many out of work (not just US issue)
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Yes.
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Social Security always says no.
[03:39]	schestowitz	the whole "it's not just here" argument isn't relevant
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Because they find out that no matter how much of a basket case the person is, they'll usually take no and leave.
[03:39]	schestowitz	I am talking abouut Land of the Dreams in isolation
[03:39]	schestowitz	for us, the NHS has perils
[03:39]	DaemonFC	Long before they speak to a judge.
[03:39]	schestowitz	because it is underfunded
[03:40]	schestowitz	and the funding comes from taxes off paychecks
[03:40]	schestowitz	about a quarter of mole of adults here don't work
[03:40]	schestowitz	maybe a third already
[03:40]	DaemonFC	Social Security only says YES on the initial or reconsideration when there is an overwhelming probability they'll be overturned.
[03:40]	DaemonFC	But a lot of people don't know there's a process here.
[03:40]	DaemonFC	So they go away.
[03:40]	DaemonFC	Then the government keeps the money.
[03:41]	schestowitz	and count you as not unemployed
[03:41]	DaemonFC	YES
[03:41]	schestowitz	hence, employed
[03:41]	DaemonFC	They don't care as long as you go away and don't ask them for anything.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	They would rather that you got pissed and went to a mall and shot 10 people over it than win your Disability or Unemployment case.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	That's how evil the American government is.
[03:43]	schestowitz	"free-dumb"
[03:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz If you're already on SSDI you'll probably keep it forever unless you're an obvious fraud case or tell them you think you've gotten better.
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[03:43]	DaemonFC	But their goal is to make it harder to get every year so eventually the ones getting it die and nobody else is on it.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	Then it just won't exist.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	They won't say that, but it's what they are doing.
[03:44]	schestowitz	they know there is an issue
[03:44]	schestowitz	they give weapons to cops
[03:44]	DaemonFC	They're under pressure to cut Social Security Disability, but Congress doesn't want to repeal it and admit there's nothing.
[03:44]	schestowitz	and fight their own population
[03:45]	DaemonFC	So they just make it impossible to win, a bit at a time.
[03:45]	schestowitz	weapons like armoured vehicles
[03:45]	DaemonFC	Until it ceases to exist and yet is still there.
[03:45]	schestowitz	typical
[03:45]	schestowitz	formality only
[03:45]	schestowitz	the patent system can be a lot like it
[03:45]	DaemonFC	Yeah, in the 1990s it was real easy to win a Disability case.
[03:46]	schestowitz	back then the economy was better
[03:46]	DaemonFC	Walk in there with records from a psychiatrist saying you had ADHD and it was making it impossible to work.
[03:46]	schestowitz	now, us economy is just borrow borrow borrow
[03:46]	schestowitz	then bailout microsoft and weapons companies
[03:46]	schestowitz	even send illegal weapons to ukraine
[03:46]	schestowitz	for sale
[03:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz You can still win a Disability case, but the rules get harder every year. But if you're a reconsideration case, they have to use the rules from your initial determination.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	Be it 1990 or 2007.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	And the burden is on them.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	So they send out a mailer and they give up and they focus on people who are trying to claim it now.
[03:47]	schestowitz	Did Jan really need that treatment which blinded her?
[03:47]	schestowitz	i have a friend who had that done
[03:47]	schestowitz	sounded a bit risky to me
[03:47]	DaemonFC	No, it was a vanity thing so she wouldn't have to wear glasses.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	Like most boomers.
[03:48]	schestowitz	all this to avoid some spectacles or contact lenses
[03:48]	DaemonFC	This is why I wear glasses, schestowitz
[03:48]	DaemonFC	For every mom (successful lasik) there's a Jan.
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[03:48]	schestowitz	yeah
[03:48]	schestowitz	nothing wrong with them
[03:48]	schestowitz	i never had them myself
[03:48]	DaemonFC	And they just won't say that because it's $4,000 a patient.
[03:48]	schestowitz	but happy to try when i start needing them
[03:48]	schestowitz	if I got back to driving, i _might_ need glasses
[03:48]	schestowitz	long distance sight is weaker
[03:49]	DaemonFC	The "surgeon" (in the shopping mall!) bilks you out of $4,000, blinds you, and Social Security Disability says fuck off. Go get a job for a BLIND PERSON! JAN!
[03:49]	DaemonFC	That's how LASIK Eye Surgery works.
[03:49]	DaemonFC	All because glasses kind of suck a little bit.
[03:49]	schestowitz	no contact lenses?
[03:49]	schestowitz	these seem harmless
[03:49]	DaemonFC	She could have.
[03:50]	DaemonFC	LASIK isn't covered by vision insurance. It's considered cosmetic surgery.
[03:50]	schestowitz	laser has its places
[03:50]	schestowitz	not eyeballs
[03:50]	DaemonFC	Mandy's vision insurance has a 10% discount for LASIK.
[03:50]	schestowitz	too risky
[03:50]	schestowitz	risk/benefit analysis
[03:50]	DaemonFC	Mom was like 20/400 before LASIK.
[03:50]	DaemonFC	So legally blind.
[03:50]	DaemonFC	LASIK got her to 20/20.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	She went to a place in Indianapolis that had the best equipment and a good success rate.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	Jan went to the shopping mall with Dr. Zed. (Borderlands reference.)
[03:51]	bnchs	DaemonFC: wow that's amazing
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[03:51]	bnchs	but also wtf, "cosmetic surgery"?
[03:51]	starstreak	everyone who disagrees with Roy is a troll, a bot or a microsoft employee
[03:51]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they call it cosmetic because not everyone needs LASIK.
[03:52]	DaemonFC	I'm typing and reading all of this and I'm not wearing my glasses right now.
[03:52]	DaemonFC	But I have prescription glasses.
[03:52]	DaemonFC	I wear them when I'm driving even though I don't legally have to.
[03:52]	DaemonFC	It makes it easier to read traffic signs and stuff.
[03:53]	DaemonFC	STATE OF ILL has a great habit of making street signs really small.
[03:53]	DaemonFC	Also, it makes it less fuzzy when I'm watching a movie or reading a book.
[03:53]	DaemonFC	But I'm hardly blind without them. But I might GO BLIND if I let Dr. Zed go to work on me at the MALL,.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	So, no LASIK. NOPE.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	"Now I'm not one of those what you might call 'real doctors'." -Dr. Zed
[03:54]	schestowitz	small signs, more sales of glasses
[03:54]	schestowitz	conspiracy!!
[03:54]	elusive_woman	rianne is on onlyfans
[03:54]	MinceR	kneel before zed
[03:54]	DaemonFC	Oh my God.....
[03:55]	DaemonFC	"No, Zod."
[03:55]	MinceR	:)
[03:55]	DaemonFC	Porn is a booming industry.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	There's pressure on people who are attractive enough to do it because trying to get a real job is difficult and going to school is too expensive.
[03:56]	TR News	Don't overlook the fact Saudi Arabia partly owns Twitter (and has for over a decade); it has moles inside the sniff out dissidents and it censors the platform for the entire planet https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/07/when-govts-and-citizens-wage-twitter-wars-can-we-learn-anything-from-saudi-arabi/
[03:57]	TR Bot	 When govts and citizens wage Twitter wars - can we learn anything from Saudi Arabia? - Techzim
[03:57]	DaemonFC	So they do piece work on porn sites for a bunch of perverts who are unemployed and getting real pissed off while they accumulate guns.
[03:57]	immibis	the economy is all fucked up. porn is just one instance of it
[03:57]	immibis	in this fucked up economy, i think if you can get easy money doing porn, and you're okay with it, that's a good idea
[03:58]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of disease flying around out there all of a sudden.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	This is the grossest generation ever, honestly.
[03:58]	TR News	You cannot advocate human rights in Twitter because the mere act of posting in Twitter is an affront to human rights.
[03:58]	bnchs	>can we learn anything from Saudi Arabia?
[03:58]	DaemonFC	Condoms and sex ed and public health funding was keeping a lid on the STDs for decades.
[03:58]	bnchs	yes, we can kill people for saying shit
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Then America decided that it wanted to be a disaster like South Africa.
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[03:59]	DaemonFC	Also, what's with the STI thing?
[03:59]	DaemonFC	You can't call it a disease now.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Sexually Transmitted Disease.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	It's not a disease! It's an infection!
[03:59]	schestowitz	ph
[03:59]	schestowitz	oh
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[04:00]	schestowitz	they changed that too?
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Yes, all the public health literature that exists says STI for about 15 years or so.
[04:00]	bnchs	DaemonFC: that would conflict with STanDard LIBrary
[04:00]	schestowitz	renaming it will make it less harmful
[04:00]	DaemonFC	I still call them STDs.
[04:00]	MinceR	19 045850 < bnchs> yes, we can kill people for saying shit
[04:00]	schestowitz	they make up many euphemisms
[04:00]	bnchs	the medical community's looking out for the programming community
[04:00]	MinceR	i thought this was common knowledge already
[04:00]	schestowitz	like for crazy people
[04:00]	schestowitz	you cannot call crazy people "crazy"
[04:01]	schestowitz	it might offend them
[04:01]	schestowitz	so people start talking in lies
[04:01]	schestowitz	and you end up recruting nazis
[04:01]	schestowitz	who stab colleague
[04:01]	schestowitz	in the workplace
[04:01]	schestowitz	"oops, sorry"
[04:01]	DaemonFC	My mechanic said "That's crazy!" when I told him something. I said, "That was a microaggression!.........Only kidding. It is crazy, isn't it?" 
[04:01]	schestowitz	"it's our crazies hiring program"
[04:02]	DaemonFC	We want all sorts of nutbags and lunatics at Microsoft. It's our Nutbag and Lunatic Hiring Program!
[04:02]	DaemonFC	We won't stop until it's nuttier than a goddamn squirrel turd in here.
[04:02]	schestowitz	what's the euphemism for bling people?
[04:02]	immibis	why do you insist on being crazy and then complaining about craziness
[04:02]	DaemonFC	mjg59_: You should apply.
[04:02]	schestowitz	i'm sure there is one
[04:02]	DaemonFC	Help them out.
[04:02]	schestowitz	*blind
[04:03]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: msft can hire some nuts
[04:03]	schestowitz	then peopple get stabbed
[04:03]	schestowitz	then they say the local population is crazy
[04:03]	DaemonFC	They get the point.
[04:03]	schestowitz	and hire from aabroad
[04:03]	schestowitz	imports slaves
[04:03]	schestowitz	on chains that are not visible
[04:03]	schestowitz	like deportation
[04:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz I think it's pretty funny that I reported a security vulnerability to Discover Bank today.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	I blogged about it so there's a written record on the Web of what it is and when I reported it to them.
[04:04]	schestowitz	i ssee
[04:04]	schestowitz	i think euphemisms for blindness are something-sighted
[04:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz She is a mean person.
[04:05]	schestowitz	but blindness does not make you dangerous
[04:05]	schestowitz	unlike craziness
[04:05]	DaemonFC	She pretty much banned my dad from seeing me. Then she blinded herself.
[04:05]	DaemonFC	So she hasn't seen much of anything in the past 20 years.
[04:05]	DaemonFC	You can't tell me that the universe has no sense of irony. 
[04:05]	schestowitz	"i can't see your family/ neigher should you"
[04:06]	schestowitz	so you just see his FB posts
[04:06]	schestowitz	(avoid FB)
[04:06]	DaemonFC	Like it went from "You're not allowed to see your son. Now hold my Auntie Anne's cream cheese pretzel while I go over here and OH GOD I'M BLIND! I'M BLIND!!!!!"
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[04:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz If anything, that was the cost of vanity.
[04:08]	starstreak	<schestowitz> "it's our crazies hiring program"
[04:08]	starstreak	so now autistic people are crazy
[04:08]	DaemonFC	She'll never see anything again, with or without glasses.
[04:08]	DaemonFC	It took away her ability to work.
[04:08]	DaemonFC	The government that she paid into for years told her to fuck off and die.
[04:08]	schestowitz	why pay then?
[04:08]	DaemonFC	And my dad is her meal ticket while she doesn't contribute anything.
[04:09]	schestowitz	if they never let you take the thing you thought you insured for?
[04:09]	schestowitz	insurance companies, pension firms...
[04:09]	schestowitz	they are good at hoarding money
[04:09]	schestowitz	and then at the end they howl for bailouts
[04:09]	DaemonFC	The first thing Social Security checks for is if you have enough work credits. If you don't they can tell you no and that's the end.
[04:09]	schestowitz	because the hoarding was not enough
[04:09]	DaemonFC	No appeals.
[04:09]	DaemonFC	She had enough work credits.
[04:09]	DaemonFC	So they said there was a sedentary job paying at least minimum wage "somewhere".
[04:09]	DaemonFC	For a blind woman.
[04:10]	schestowitz	the us has too many jobs
[04:10]	schestowitz	there are many sites
[04:10]	schestowitz	like proxima systems
[04:10]	schestowitz	they advertise jovbs that do not exist
[04:10]	schestowitz	sirius did that too
[04:10]	schestowitz	it's a sign that says,
[04:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz We have too many jobs. There's even some for a blind woman with severe arthritis.
[04:10]	schestowitz	"we are doing well"
[04:10]	schestowitz	almost every company pretends to have vacancies
[04:10]	DaemonFC	Where they're just going to pay them to do something that a blind arthritic woman can do.
[04:10]	schestowitz	worse that can happen is
[04:10]	DaemonFC	According to Social Security.
[04:10]	schestowitz	people ask
[04:10]	schestowitz	you say "no, try later"
[04:12]	schestowitz	we have an appointment in 2 banks today
[04:12]	schestowitz	(no, not debt)
[04:12]	schestowitz	as you mention social security,
[04:12]	schestowitz	many people made false assumption
[04:12]	schestowitz	hob made false promises
[04:13]	schestowitz	and thus the economy is a bubble
[04:13]	schestowitz	buildings you see around you are just debt
[04:13]	schestowitz	they don't exist 'per se'
[04:13]	schestowitz	they are made using minuses
[04:13]	schestowitz	offset by some offshore bank accounts of robber barons
[04:13]	schestowitz	people who committed crimes, like EPO management, by speculating and gambling away people's pensions
[04:13]	schestowitz	yes, the EPO does this too
[04:14]	schestowitz	they call it "EPOTIF"
[04:14]	schestowitz	EPO staff is furious about it
[04:14]	DaemonFC	Yeah, this new landlord has his head in the clouds if he thinks he'll ever see a profit on this place.
[04:14]	schestowitz	the money set aside
[04:14]	schestowitz	for 50 years from now
[04:14]	schestowitz	it gets stolen
[04:14]	schestowitz	and they say,
[04:14]	immibis	DaemonFC do you have any idea about the economy? It only goes up, even when it should go down.
[04:14]	schestowitz	"don't worry, we'll invest if for you
[04:14]	schestowitz	"
[04:14]	DaemonFC	There's not a case where he profits within his life expectancy on this place.
[04:14]	schestowitz	and then all the money you are SURE you sey aside
[04:14]	schestowitz	BOOMm
[04:14]	schestowitz	GONE
[04:14]	DaemonFC	It's a dump.
[04:14]	schestowitz	and not your own fault
[04:14]	schestowitz	someone stole it
[04:15]	DaemonFC	He spent twice as much as it's worth and it also needs hundreds of thousands of dollars work.
[04:15]	immibis	the value of a dump isn't the dump, it's the space the dump occupies
[04:15]	schestowitz	immibis: article hours ago
[04:15]	schestowitz	in financial media
[04:15]	DaemonFC	immibisthe value of a dump isn't the dump, it's the space the dump occupies
[04:15]	schestowitz	said markets moved up
[04:15]	schestowitz	but revenues are dowqn
[04:15]	schestowitz	put 2 and 2 together
[04:15]	DaemonFC	He's rehabbing the unit across the hall.
[04:15]	schestowitz	the market go up... based on bad news?
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Watch the first person he rents it to tear it all up again.
[04:15]	schestowitz	something doesn't add up
[04:15]	schestowitz	Madoff
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Has dogs pissing on the carpet and chewing it up.
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Jumps out and bites someone.
[04:15]	schestowitz	"I need to borrow money from you?"
[04:16]	schestowitz	"but WHY"
[04:16]	schestowitz	"BECAUSE I AM RICH"
[04:16]	schestowitz	"don't worry"
[04:16]	schestowitz	"I will pay you back, I AM RICH"
[04:16]	schestowitz	(MARISOL)
[04:16]	DaemonFC	Being a landlord isn't a SURE THING.
[04:16]	DaemonFC	He's just moving someone else's money around and praying it works out.
[04:16]	DaemonFC	Or they'll take him to the cleaners and get his building.
[04:16]	schestowitz	it won';t
[04:16]	schestowitz	if it did
[04:16]	schestowitz	mark would not be broke
[04:17]	schestowitz	and FORCED to sell the place
[04:17]	schestowitz	this one he offloaded for a profit at least
[04:17]	schestowitz	but not out of choice
[04:17]	schestowitz	he found an idiot
[04:17]	schestowitz	could pay 1 million
[04:17]	schestowitz	not 2..3
[04:17]	schestowitz	in an economy like this
[04:17]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Mark would have eventually broken down and gone well south of $2 million for sure.
[04:18]	schestowitz	where even current tenants can lose their income/livelihood
[04:18]	schestowitz	and then get "stuck" in there till eviction paperwork
[04:18]	DaemonFC	It had already been on the market attracting zero interest for over 7 months.
[04:18]	DaemonFC	This guy had a hole burning in his pocket.
[04:18]	DaemonFC	Do you know how long it's taking to evict someone right now?
[04:18]	DaemonFC	A minimum of 3-4 months to get a court order then wait until the Sheriff gets to them.
[04:19]	DaemonFC	So once they stop paying figure you're stuck with them for half a year where they won't.
[04:19]	DaemonFC	If you have a tenant that never misses rent, don't fuck with them.
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[04:20]	DaemonFC	Kent found that out.
[04:20]	DaemonFC	Now he loses mom and gains the guy upstairs that stopped paying him and lied about losing his job at the Taco Bell.
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[04:20]	DaemonFC	He told Kent the landlord that he lost his job at Taco Bell. Then mom went to order food at Taco Bell and it was him at the window handing it to her.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Kent has tenants that stop paying him work for free to take it off what they owe him.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	So the Taco Bell guy was outside power washing the building the other day.
[04:22]	immibis	DaemonFC: stop talking and start doing
[04:22]	DaemonFC	There's really nothing wrong with that I guess. He does factor it in at like $12 an hour.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	That's what the local Walmart pays.
[04:23]	DaemonFC	I went over and stained a deck for him and cleaned up after some tenants that trashed a house and moved out.
[04:23]	DaemonFC	Back in 2007 I think.
[04:24]	DaemonFC	I moved into that house he owned in January that year.
[04:24]	DaemonFC	So it was probably around March or April.
[04:24]	elusive_woman	usually houses get trashed if the landlord is a slumlord
[04:25]	DaemonFC	He had me mow the lawn sometimes.
[04:25]	DaemonFC	He had his son that was always in trouble with the law "remodeling" houses and apartments.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	The guy was a real piece of work.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	He did "electrical work" by wrapping live wires in duct tape and tossing them back in the wall.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	He left roofing nails all over the alley way once.
[04:26]	DaemonFC	I had just bought new tires for my Ford Taurus at Walmart and they talked me into the lifetime road hazard plan.
[04:27]	starstreak	immibis, roy says autistic people are crazy
[04:27]	DaemonFC	They ended up having to replace 7 tires out of a set of 4 because of the shit that guy left around.
[04:27]	schestowitz	no, you are lying
[04:27]	schestowitz	get help
[04:28]	DaemonFC	With the way Walmart's "tire balancing" is going, I have to spend half my free time there now having them rebalance them.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	With their alleged tire weights.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	It got so bad I brought in strips of adhesive weights.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	I think they got it right finally, today.
[04:29]	DaemonFC	You super glue the damn things in there and they stay there unless you pry them off.
[04:30]	MinceR	starstreak: https://media.tenor.com/mZZoOtDcouoAAAAM/stop-it-get-some-help.gif
[04:30]	DaemonFC	I'm considering either buying new rims eventually or just moving the ones that are the hardest to properly balance to the rear axle permanently.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	They don't really have to be perfect back there because it's carrying less weight and not steering the car.
[04:31]	TR News	Restaurant association obtains exemption from anti-smoking law https://mexiconewsdaily.com/health/suspension-granted-against-anti-smoking-law/
[04:32]	TR Bot	 Restaurant association obtains exemption from anti-smoking law
[04:32]	DaemonFC	It turns out Walmart will sell you adhesives but they use hammer-in weights that immediately get thrown off the car.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	These things are dangerous.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	They could get thrown off your car at any speed and angle.
[04:32]	TR News	Overbooking is a HUGE scam. Let the scammers pay for it. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/supreme-court-airlines-must-partly-refund-overbookings/
[04:32]	TR Bot	 Supreme Court rules airlines must partly refund overbooked flights
[04:32]	DaemonFC	So you could be driving by and throw one and hit a pedestrian with a metal tire weight that's flying at 40 miles an hour.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Or it could arc and come back down and crack someone's windshield.
[04:33]	TR News	"fully compensate survivors" https://www.propublica.org/article/fema-paid-out-less-than-one-percent-of-claims-new-mexico-wildfire | Source: Pro Publica
[04:33]	TR Bot	 FEMA Has Paid Out Less Than 1% of What Congress Set Aside for Hermits Peak-Calf Canyon Fire Damages ProPublica
[04:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz Remember when they gave the blacks formaldehyde trailers to live in? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
[04:35]	TR News	But the US always has endless money 'for' Ukraine (for military contractors, not for Ukraine, they just send illegal cluster munitions for Ukrainians and Russians to kill one another, civilians included)
[04:35]	DaemonFC	Lou Malnati's sent me a coupon for free Cheese Pizza.
[04:35]		*DaemonFC gives it to mjg59_ as he probably "knows someone" who could use that.
[04:36]	TR News	Turkey sees record-breaking electricity, water consumption amid heatwave https://www.bianet.org/english/society/281631-turkey-sees-record-breaking-electricity-water-consumption-amid-heatwave
[04:36]	TR Bot	 Turkey sees record-breaking electricity, water consumption amid heatwave - english
[04:37]	TR News	Nineteen forest fires erupt in a day in Turkey's south, west https://www.bianet.org/english/crisis/281597-nineteen-forest-fires-erupt-in-a-day-in-turkey-s-south-west
[04:37]	TR Bot	 Nineteen forest fires erupt in a day in Turkey's south, west - english
[04:37]	TR News	Highest-ever increase on fuel taxes sparks outrage in Turkey https://www.bianet.org/english/economy/281594-highest-ever-increase-on-fuel-taxes-sparks-outrage-in-turkey
[04:37]	TR Bot	 Highest-ever increase on fuel taxes sparks outrage in Turkey - english
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[04:38]	TR Bot	 New PC Console Looks Like a Steam Machine, is Smaller Than Xbox Series S | Tom's Hardware
[04:38]	MinceR	how do you build a trailer out of formaldehyde?
[04:39]	MinceR	it would have to be kept below -92C to keep it from melting
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[04:39]	DaemonFC	MinceR: First you really really have to hate n******s like George W. Bush did.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Then you build trailers out of formaldehyde using FEMA.
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[04:39]	TR Bot	 Bash Basics Series #6: Handling String Operations
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Which is the federal program to kill blacks.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	That was the intent of Congress.
[04:41]	TR News	Pretty Print a JSON String in Python https://tecadmin.net/pretty-print-a-json-string-in-python/
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Pretty Print a JSON String in Python TecAdmin
[04:41]	TR News	ESP32-S3 based Arduino Nano ESP32 board supports Arduino and MicroPython programming https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/07/18/esp32-s3-based-arduino-nano-esp32-board-supports-arduino-and-micropython-programming/
[04:41]	TR Bot	 ESP32-S3 based Arduino Nano ESP32 board supports Arduino and MicroPython programming - CNX Software
[04:43]	immibis	FEMA? really? the emergency thing for hurricanes and stuff?
[04:43]	TR News	Books and Zines gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2023-07-18-bookszines.gmi
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[04:46]	TR News	"In 1990 there was an operating system called BeOS developed by Be Inc. BeOS was meant to be a "multimedia" focused alternative to Mac OS and Windows. Unfortunately BeOS failed to gain traction, and Be Inc was acquired by Palm, Inc in 2001. Despite that, BeOS lives on today thanks to the wonderful work of the Haiku project." gemini://alextheuxguy.mooo.com/2023-07-18.gmi
[04:47]	TR News	Bubble v6.0: Atom Feeds, Expanded Help gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/s/Bubble/3241
[04:47]	DaemonFC	immibisFEMA? really? the emergency thing for hurricanes and stuff?
[04:47]	DaemonFC	Yeah, after the hurricane the FEMA shows up and kills any blacks it didn't take care of.
[04:47]	DaemonFC	That's their mandate from Congress.
[04:48]	immibis	isn't that what the cops do all the time?
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Like most federal agencies it takes in billions of dollars and only manages to kill the errant black or two. Yet manages to be funded again next year.
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Absolutely no accountability.
[04:49]	DaemonFC	immibisisn't that what the cops do all the time?
[04:49]	immibis	DaemonFC: we should fire Biden and elect DeSantis instead .
[04:49]	DaemonFC	Yes, but every truly oppressive government needs a multi-vector assault mode for people they don't like.
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[05:02]	DaemonFC	America has turned into a bag of assholes that are incompetent and mostly shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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[05:03]	DaemonFC	Because they're too dumb to actually be allowed to.
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[05:03]	DaemonFC	Obviously nobody in Roy's country voted for Charles the Homeopathy King, with his thoughts on potatoes and modern architecture, and his pedo brother.
[05:03]	DaemonFC	But they did put Sunak in power.
[05:05]	DaemonFC	Buckingham Palace once applied for a grant from a program to help poor people heat their homes because they wanted to use the money to heat an entire PALACE because over $100 million a year isn't enough I guess.
[05:05]	DaemonFC	"Welfare Queen"
[05:06]	DaemonFC	techrights-news"In 1990 there was an operating system called BeOS developed by Be Inc. BeOS was meant to be a "multimedia" focused alternative to Mac OS and Windows. Unfortunately BeOS failed to gain traction, and Be Inc was acquired by Palm, Inc in 2001. Despite that, BeOS lives on today thanks to the wonderful work of the Haiku project." gemini://alextheuxguy.mooo.com/2023-07-18.gmi
[05:06]	DaemonFC	Microsoft said Windows was a multimedia OS, which probably was why clear up until Windows 10 you had to stuff a "pirate codec pack" into it.
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[05:07]	immibis	microsoft is a revenue OS, like everything. Even Linux is a revenue OS, they just found smart ways to allocate the revenue
[05:07]	immibis	linux makes revenues for the developers in ways other than sales
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[05:11]	DaemonFC	I suppose mjg59_ would probably say what's going on with me and Mandy is a "White Messiah trope".
[05:11]	DaemonFC	I mean, if you look hard enough you can kind of see anything you want.
[05:11]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_savior_narrative_in_film
[05:11]	TR Bot	 White savior narrative in film - Wikipedia
[05:12]	MinceR	19 060257 < DaemonFC> America has turned into a bag of assholes that are incompetent and mostly shouldn't be allowed to vote.
[05:12]	MinceR	s/America/Earth/
[05:12]	MinceR	FTFY
[05:12]	DaemonFC	I guess I should call the Buick the Pork Chop Express.
[05:13]	DaemonFC	Some of the movies on this list are the highest grossing and most critically acclaimed ever.
[05:13]	DaemonFC	Some have even been remastered, frame-by-frame in a labor-intensive process that cost as much as some new movies.
[05:13]	DaemonFC	Like Lawrence of Arabia.
[05:14]	DaemonFC	Because people will still buy that edition today.
[05:14]	DaemonFC	I have the 50th Anniversary remaster of Lawrence of Arabia on Blu Ray.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
[05:15]	DaemonFC	We went to see Dial of Destiny the other day.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	Mandy didn't get why I referred to him as Short Round.
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[05:16]	DaemonFC	It's considered stereotypical for white people to be "ignorant" of every possible culture that could possibly exist on the planet.
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[05:16]	DaemonFC	All several thousand of them.
[05:17]	DaemonFC	Including all of the eccentricities, and taboos, and word pronunciations.
[05:17]	DaemonFC	Because all of those non-white people know all of this. Everything about everyone's cultures. They're experts. All of them.
[05:17]	starstreak	immibis, <schestowitz> "it's our crazies hiring program"
[05:17]	DaemonFC	They know all about Indiana, where I'm from.
[05:17]	DaemonFC	And they can pronounce EVERY word in English, properly.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	And everyone knows white culture is evil, both evil and homogeneous.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	There is ABSOLUTELY no difference in being from Indiana or Ireland.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	Which is why I know everything about mjg59_ .
[05:18]	DaemonFC	EVERYTHING
[05:18]	DaemonFC	I even know what brand of toothpaste he uses.
[05:19]	DaemonFC	The Irish really have a thing about breaded pork tenderloin sandwiches.
[05:19]	DaemonFC	You can find them anywhere.
[05:19]	DaemonFC	And they're ALL Protestants, so like, that Catholic v. Protestant thing is Fake News.
[05:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[05:20]	schestowitz	<starstreak> immibis, <schestowitz> "it's our crazies hiring program"
[05:20]	schestowitz	yes, nazis
[05:20]	schestowitz	it's how microsoft hires actual nazis
[05:20]	DaemonFC	They just wanted people to think that there were Troubles so they could have it all to themselves.
[05:20]	schestowitz	who then try to murder non-nazis
[05:20]	DaemonFC	They had Troubles in Ireland.
[05:20]	DaemonFC	Troubles with Tribbles, I think.
[05:21]	DaemonFC	White people are generally held to a higher standard than anyone else.
[05:21]	DaemonFC	You can almost pick a reason out of a hat why any one of us is dumb, provincial, and toxic.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	India has no problems at all.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	They figured everything out. Those brown Indian people did.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	The smog and the brick wall so the rich don't have to see the tent cities is the way life should be.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	And Modi is just the cherry on top of the shit sundae.
[05:23]	DaemonFC	If you criticize them, it's the fault of white people because at some point in history, white people did something.
[05:23]	TR News	Elon Musks Twitter: Everything you need to know, from layoffs to verification https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/18/elon-musk-twitter-everything-you-need-to-know/
[05:23]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk's Twitter: Everything you need to know, from layoffs to verification
[05:23]	DaemonFC	If India is still there and having problems in 2360 they'll still be blaming white British people for the 1960s.
[05:23]	starstreak	i said i applied through their neurodiversity hiring program
[05:23]	DaemonFC	That's how blacks do things in America.
[05:24]	DaemonFC	Point at slavery in the 1800s.
[05:24]	starstreak	neurodiversity = autism type stuff
[05:24]	DaemonFC	If you give them until 2800, they'll still be like they are now and complaining about 1860.
[05:24]	DaemonFC	You have to simply ignore what you see with your own eyes. Like South Africa. A modern country with lots of wealth, until the ANC got ahold of it.
[05:25]	DaemonFC	Now it's pit toilets and electric shortages and hyperinflation/
[05:25]	DaemonFC	Imagine that.
[05:25]	DaemonFC	And of course they're allying themselves with the Russians because paradise.
[05:25]	DaemonFC	I'm not a Nazi. I'm just being honest.
[05:26]	DaemonFC	I'm sick of being blamed for problems that I didn't cause.
[05:26]	DaemonFC	That I had nothing to do with.
[05:26]	DaemonFC	Look at Evanston Illinois.
[05:26]	DaemonFC	They give black people $25,000 each for being there and the people who get $25,000 say that they should get more.
[05:26]	TR News	No, just pushed by IBM, the PROPRIETARY company https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/07/17/0159246/is-wayland-becoming-the-favored-way-to-get-a-gui-on-linux
[05:26]	TR Bot	 Is Wayland Becoming the Favored Way to Get a GUI on Linux? - Slashdot
[05:26]	DaemonFC	Even though $25,000 just got handed to people who don't work by people who do.
[05:27]	DaemonFC	The only thing I'm going to say is that I'm glad that Waukegan is split in thirds, politically.
[05:28]	DaemonFC	Right now nobody has a clear majority where they can just take over the town government and send $25,000 to themselves from other people while our roads fall apart and nobody graduates High School.
[05:28]	DaemonFC	Because that IS what almost happened.
[05:28]	TR News	How to encrypt a file within seconds in Linux! https://systemweakness.com/how-to-encrypt-a-file-in-linux-challenge-with-prize-5e53e28fa890
[05:28]	TR Bot	 How to encrypt a file within seconds in Linux! | by Alopix | | Jul, 2023 | System Weakness
[05:29]	DaemonFC	And what stopped it was that the Hispanic community (and probably a coalition of white voters) grabbed some seats in the town government.
[05:29]	DaemonFC	Because we saw what a hell pit Waukegan was becoming under Cunningham and Friends.
[05:29]	TR News	" Linux-Red Hat wars expand" https://insidehpc.com/2023/07/hpc-news-bytes-sc23-china-tech-export-controls-linux-wars-expand-chiplet-scale-out-quantum/
[05:29]	TR Bot	News Bytes: SC23, China Tech Export Controls, Linux Wars Expand, Chiplet Scale-out, Quantum - High-Performance Computing News Analysis | insideHPC
[05:29]	DaemonFC	The STATE OF ILL POLICE came in and raided Roudell Kirkwood.
[05:29]	DaemonFC	He's out of office and facing 26 felonies now.
[05:30]	DaemonFC	They came in and raided the City Hall and took out a big fat pile of rotting trash.
[05:30]	TR News	"Linux-friendly": how Microsofters blame on "Linux" things that have nothing to do with it https://cybernews.com/security/zimbra-email-zero-day-bug/
[05:30]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://cybernews.com/security/zimbra-email-zero-day-bug/ )
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Politically, Waukegan was on the verge of turning into another North Chicago.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Place is a dump.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	It's a shanty town.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Nothing there.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	(Except crime and empty buildings)
[05:31]	DaemonFC	(The occasional Dollar General.)
[05:31]	TR News	How to Install 32-Bit Linux On An Old Mac https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-32bit-linux-on-mac/
[05:31]	TR Bot	 How to Install 32-Bit Linux On An Old Mac - Make Tech Easier
[05:32]	TR News	Slackware celebrates 30 years in the Linux distribution world https://www.itpro.com/software/open-source/slackware-celebrates-30-years-in-the-linux-distribution-world
[05:32]	TR Bot	celebrates 30 years in the Linux distribution world | ITPro
[05:32]	DaemonFC	It seems like the Democrats don't really care if the place turns into rubble as long as they rule over the rubble and throw money they borrowed from the banks to people who use it to buy illegal guns.
[05:32]	TR News	Joining cargo cults https://www.makeuseof.com/set-up-rust-development-environment-on-linux/
[05:32]	TR Bot	 How to Set Up a Rust Development Environment on Linux
[05:33]	DaemonFC	Like, Chicago and Cook County took a bunch of COVID money from the Feds and threw it all at black people.
[05:33]	DaemonFC	And said, "Now don't you go buying guns and drugs with this!"
[05:33]	DaemonFC	Then they study it and claim "Oh yes, they all went to school and became rocket scientists and bought organic granola at the store."
[05:33]	DaemonFC	"We need this EVERYWHERE!"
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[05:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Solus 4.4 Harmony Released with Secure Boot Support, Linux 6.3, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/08/Solus_4_4_Harmony_Released_with_Secure_Boot_Support_Linux_6_3_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/08/Solus_4_4_Harmony_Released_with_Secure_Boot_Support_Linux_6_3_a.gmi 
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Solus 4.4 Harmony Released with Secure Boot Support, Linux 6.3, and More
[05:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Linux Shells: Bash, Zsh, and Fish Explained http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Linux_Shells_Bash_Zsh_and_Fish_Explained.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Linux_Shells_Bash_Zsh_and_Fish_Explained.gmi 
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux Shells: Bash, Zsh, and Fish Explained
[05:38]	TR News	 (NEW): This beautiful Linux distribution makes it easy to migrate from any OS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/This_beautiful_Linux_distribution_makes_it_easy_to_migrate_from.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/This_beautiful_Linux_distribution_makes_it_easy_to_migrate_from.gmi 
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines This beautiful Linux distribution makes it easy to migrate from any OS
[05:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Vanilla 4.0 release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Vanilla_4_0_release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Vanilla_4_0_release.gmi 
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Vanilla 4.0 release
[05:40]	TR News	Solus Is Back, but Can It Survive Its Troubled Past? https://fossforce.com/2023/07/solus-is-back-but-can-it-survive-its-troubled-past/
[05:40]	TR Bot	 Solus Is Back, but Can It Survive Its Troubled Past? - FOSS Force
[05:47]	TR News	Outsourced to Gulag. Get your proprietary crap to watch Samba? https://lwn.net/Articles/938524/
[05:47]	TR Bot	2023 videos posted [LWN.net]
[05:48]	TR News	Cython 3.0.0 https://cython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/changes.html#major-themes-in-3-0-0
[05:48]	TR Bot	 Cython Changelog Cython 3.0.0 documentation
[05:49]	TR News	No Need to Hack When Its Leaking.. and Leaking and Leaking https://www.databreaches.net/no-need-to-hack-when-its-leaking-and-leaking-and-leaking/
[05:49]	TR Bot	 No Need to Hack When Its Leaking.. and Leaking and Leaking
[05:49]	DaemonFC	Stargate 1994 In the science fiction film, a white Egyptologist and linguist (played by James Spader) and a white military colonel (played by Kurt Russell) rescue a non-white population on an alien planet from their extraterrestrial slavers.[13]
[05:49]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[05:50]	DaemonFC	Oh no.
[05:50]	TR News	Phoenician Medical Center notifying 162,500 patients of attack that disrupted IT systems https://www.databreaches.net/phoenician-medical-center-notifying-162500-patients-of-attack-that-disrupted-it-systems/
[05:50]	TR Bot	 Phoenician Medical Center notifying 162,500 patients of attack that disrupted IT systems
[05:50]	schestowitz	blacklist the movie
[05:50]	schestowitz	it would be crazy not to
[05:50]	DaemonFC	There were black soldiers that went with them and helped liberate the slaves from Ra.
[05:51]	TR News	CalPERS CEO gives update on data hack that exposed Social Security numbers, birth dates https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/calpers-board-gives-data-hack-231457239.html
[05:51]	TR Bot	 CalPERS CEO gives update on data hack that exposed Social Security numbers, birth dates
[05:51]	DaemonFC	And it seemed the natives did fine once they were shown how to use Earth weapons.
[05:51]	schestowitz	earth weapon = gorilla dust
[05:51]	DaemonFC	Which they probably didn't have time to develop themselves under the menacing presence of an alien slaver that never dies.
[05:51]	DaemonFC	And his goons, which had energy weapons.
[05:52]	schestowitz	police do too
[05:52]	schestowitz	tasers and similar
[05:52]	schestowitz	to fry and torture "complaining witnesses"
[05:53]	DaemonFC	Welp, this one ain't complaining anymore.
[05:53]	DaemonFC	Nice job Officer Koon!
[05:53]	TR News	Henry Ford Health confirms data breach affecting 168,000 patients https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2023/07/17/henry-ford-health-confirms-data-breach-affecting-168000-patients/
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Henry Ford Health confirms data breach affecting 168,000 patients
[05:53]	DaemonFC	(Stanley Koon)
[05:54]	schestowitz	you gave me a meme idea
[05:54]	schestowitz	one sec
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● Jul 19
[06:00]	schestowitz	escalatingh tone a bit...
[06:04]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/impunity-greater-london-authority/
[06:04]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Meanwhile in Greater London Authority (London Municipality) | Techrights
[06:07]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: for context:
[06:07]	schestowitz	Borus was  mayor for a few years
[06:07]	schestowitz	most of the trrime Khan (Labour)
[06:07]	schestowitz	for for a period of time Tories
[06:07]	schestowitz	then he became Prime Minister
[06:08]	schestowitz	also, the sirius CEO is Conservative
[06:08]	DaemonFC	Boris and Natasha
[06:08]	DaemonFC	Looking for Moose and Sqvirrel.
[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:24]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/data-breach-rules-not-followed/
[06:24]	TR Bot	 Data Breach in GLA (Greater London Authority, London Municipality) Not Reported, Formality and Forms Insufficient If Rules Not Followed | Techrights
[06:24]	schestowitz	now victims of sex crimes
[06:24]	schestowitz	not just their own workers
[06:24]	schestowitz	GLA burns victims
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[06:33]	TR News	 Data Breach in GLA (Greater London Authority, London Municipality) Not Reported, Formality and Forms Insufficient If Rules Not Followed | Gemini address: Data Breach in GLA (Greater London Authority, London Municipality) Not Reported, Formality and Forms Insufficient If Rules Not Followed
[06:34]	TR News	Data Breach in GLA (Greater London Authority, London Municipality) Not Reported, Formality and Forms Insufficient If Rules Not Followed | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/data-breach-rules-not-followed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/data-breach-rules-not-followed/
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[06:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MakuluLinux 4K Text to Image Generator
[06:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitzmost of the trrime Khan (Labour)
[06:40]	DaemonFC	KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:41]	schestowitz	lol
[06:41]	schestowitz	yes, speaking of star wars
[06:41]	DaemonFC	Star TREK
[06:41]	DaemonFC	The Wrath of Khan
[06:41]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:41]	schestowitz	yeah, got it mixed up
[06:42]	TR News	Father of Linus Torvalds in the news https://svenska.yle.fi/a/7-10038236
[06:42]	TR Bot	Nils Torvalds ppnar fr nytt regeringssamarbete med SDP: Det hnger lite p hur socialdemokraterna frhller sig till samarbete Politik svenska.yle.fi
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[06:44]	TR News	New: Nils Torvalds https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jvsFl1nT6yY
[06:44]	TR Bot	 Meet our Members - Nils Torvalds from Finland - Invidious
[06:45]	TR News	Nils Torvalds: crazies sent my son to see therapists because they couldn't stand the thought their code sucked and wasn't wanted in Linux.
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[06:46]	TR News	Wireshark 4.0.7 Released, (Sat, Jul 15th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30030
[06:46]	TR Bot	 Wireshark 4.0.7 Released - SANS Internet Storm Center
[06:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz If you take the Microsoft DEI policy seriously (they don't) it would look an awful lot like the Rocky Horror Picture Show and a few Nazis in there.
[06:46]	TR News	DShield Honeypot Maintenance and Data Retention, (Thu, Jul 13th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30024
[06:46]	TR Bot	 DShield Honeypot Maintenance and Data Retention - SANS Internet Storm Center
[06:47]	schestowitz	you could make song titles for it
[06:47]	schestowitz	gulagboy: tatatatata tocuh me!!
[06:47]	schestowitz	don't be missing out
[06:48]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=i4G-hjfMR4U
[06:48]	TR Bot	 'Over At The Frankenstein Place/There's a Light' Scene | The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Invidious
[06:48]	schestowitz	they got invited to the home of buffy and gug
[06:48]	DaemonFC	I watched the movie October Sky, sadly.
[06:49]	DaemonFC	I'm disgusted that Hollywood still portrays Wernher von Braun as anything other than a Nazi that got a lot of people killed and had Holocaust victims making rockets that fell on London.
[06:49]	TR News	Loader activity for Formbook "QM18", (Wed, Jul 12th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30020
[06:49]	DaemonFC	They still remove that part when they talk about him.
[06:49]	TR Bot	 Loader activity for Formbook "QM18" - SANS Internet Storm Center
[06:50]	DaemonFC	His bio on NASA.gov just goes he was a member of the Nazi Party and then skips over the rest of the "what he did there" and jumps straight to the US space program.
[06:50]	schestowitz	yes, operation paperclip
[06:50]	schestowitz	US clipped in some actual nazis
[06:50]	schestowitz	that's capitalism for you
[06:50]	schestowitz	microsoft: hire moar nazis
[06:51]	DaemonFC	He was a member of the Nazi Party......Would you like to know more?
[06:51]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[06:51]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Kyhe6MrOtiM
[06:51]	TR Bot	 Wernher von Braun: From Nazis to NASA - Invidious
[06:52]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TbxCVLV_fTw
[06:52]	TR Bot	 Wernher von Braun: Evil Nazi Rocket Scientist Or NASA Hero - Invidious
[06:52]	schestowitz	i am for the stars but i keep hitting london
[06:52]	schestowitz	*aim
[06:52]	DaemonFC	I'm sure the British really were glad he was spared the electric chair.
[06:53]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nW8sC9JA2Is
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Trump deports last Nazi war criminal in US back to Germany - Invidious
[06:53]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun - with intro - Invidious
[06:53]	schestowitz	reputation laundering:
[06:53]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aOmHvoE2rMs
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Dr. Wernher von Brauns Statement on Equal Employment Opportunity - Invidious
[06:54]	schestowitz	U SHOULDKHIRE THE NAZIS TOO!
[06:54]	schestowitz	Inclusion!
[06:54]	schestowitz	Mictrosoft listened
[06:54]	schestowitz	hired nazis
[06:54]	schestowitz	it didn't work out
[06:54]	schestowitz	non-nazis got hurt badly
[06:55]	schestowitz	nasa: he is not a nazi!!
[06:55]	schestowitz	he is a PIONEER!!
[06:55]	schestowitz	He's on team USA!
[06:55]	DaemonFC	Yeah, It's a good thing Trump kicked him out.
[06:55]	DaemonFC	Biden probably wouldn't.
[06:56]	DaemonFC	I mean after they stripped him of his US citizenship, under George W. Bush, he had no right to be here.
[06:56]	schestowitz	Biden did not deport Trump (Drumpf) back to germany
[06:56]	DaemonFC	He should have been deported seconds later.
[06:56]	DaemonFC	It should have happened 20 years ago.
[06:57]	DaemonFC	As soon as we knew what he was and got the paperwork through to renounce the US citizenship he should have been in Germany.
[06:57]	DaemonFC	In prison.
[06:57]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/07/16/haar-dark-historical-shadow/
[06:57]	TR Bot	 EPO Looney Tunes Part 2: The Difficult Legacy and Its Dark Historical Shadow | Techrights
[06:58]	schestowitz	"He even managed to get elected as President of the World Medical Association but a storm of protest forced him to resign before he could take up the position."
[06:58]	schestowitz	"According to two nuns who broke their silence in 1993, Sewering was responsible for the deaths of 900 physically and mentally handicapped children by transferring them from Schnbrunn to the hunger rooms of the Eglfing-Haar clinic. Sewering denied these allegations. However, he was barred from entering the United States"
[06:58]	schestowitz	"it's OK to be nazi" -establishment figure
[06:59]	schestowitz	"just prove you regret what you did"
[06:59]	schestowitz	"jail is for poor people"
[06:59]	DaemonFC	Future to be determined in Germany?
[06:59]	DaemonFC	What future?
[06:59]	DaemonFC	The guy can't even move.
[06:59]	DaemonFC	They had to cart him away on a stretcher.
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[07:00]	schestowitz	Hans Joachim Sewering 
[07:00]	schestowitz	https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1022346/Medal-murder-Germany-honours-Nazi-SS-doctor-linked-deaths-900-children-death-camps.html
[07:00]	TR Bot	 Medal for murder: Germany honours Nazi SS doctor linked to deaths of 900 children in death camps | Daily Mail Online
[07:00]	schestowitz	Germany does punish them
[07:00]	schestowitz	with a medal
[07:00]	DaemonFC	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=njXZUH5hv0w
[07:00]	TR Bot	 Former neo-Nazi removes swastika tattoos after unlikely friendship - Invidious
[07:00]	starstreak	i said i applied through their neurodiversity hiring program
[07:00]	starstreak	neurodiversity = autism type stuff
[07:01]	schestowitz	i will excuse you
[07:01]	starstreak	you changed neurodiversity into crazies and called autistic people nazis who stab people
[07:01]	schestowitz	you didn't know ahat you were doing
[07:01]	schestowitz	by applying to work ina  criminal org :-)
[07:01]	schestowitz	the people microsoft hired are crazy
[07:01]	schestowitz	posting as "neurodiversity"
[07:02]	schestowitz	which is nt "diversity"
[07:02]	schestowitz	it is a euphemism
[07:02]	schestowitz	microsoft hired a violent nut
[07:02]	schestowitz	and the colleagues paid for it
[07:03]	starstreak	who are you talking about
[07:03]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2019/10/20/understanding-autism/
[07:03]	TR Bot	 Guest Post: Understanding Autism for More Complete Inclusion | Techrights
[07:03]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/12/12/exploiting-autistic-people/
[07:03]	TR Bot	 EPO Management Now Exploits Autistic People as White-washing Communication Exercise for an Organization Which Has Breached Fundamental Rights | Techrights
[07:03]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/
[07:03]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights
[07:03]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/10/12/phipps-osi-was-wrong/
[07:03]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallman (FSF) Was Right, Simon Phipps (OSI) Was Wrong | Techrights
[07:03]	schestowitz	in short, you bark up the wrong tree
[07:03]	schestowitz	the corporations love your kind of trolling
[07:03]	schestowitz	and they won't hire you
[07:03]	schestowitz	you work for them for free
[07:03]	schestowitz	by casting critics of corporations as the issue
[07:04]	schestowitz	instead of the _real_ culpritsd
[07:05]	TR News	The Guardian should know. It ruins the lives of people by DEFAMING them. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/18/lives-are-ruined-in-an-afternoon-how-social-media-shaped-the-huw-edwards-story
[07:05]	TR Bot	 TechScape: Lives are ruined in an afternoon social media and the Huw Edwards story | Technology | The Guardian
[07:05]	starstreak	all employers are evil capitalists
[07:07]	TR News	In the case of Julian Assange, The Guardian (Bill Gates-bribed defamation mill) played a role in the arrest, i.e. the attack on all journalists around the world. The Guardian should be dismantled. It is still working for high-profile criminals under the guise of "left"...
[07:08]	TR News	The conclusion of the Huw Edwards saga is, people should avoid social control media. Don't read it, don't write to it. Let it rot and die.
[07:08]	DaemonFC	What makes these LLMs dangerous, really, is that they're not actually generating things. When the state or the company has an interest in having it lie to you in a certain way, then it will do that. I actually had Bing Chat do this to me in an interesting way the other day. I asked it if it could give me a torrent of a really obscure Japanese Sci-Fi movie I watched years ago and liked, and...
[07:08]	DaemonFC	...it's really old. It's like 33 years old. Not terribly profitable anywhere, even in Japan. And it's not even for sale in America, and it said theft of intellectual property was unethical and it wouldn't help me.......and then it gave a citation link that contained the torrent I asked for.
[07:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz ^
[07:09]	schestowitz	Microsoft: use our wares for the torrents
[07:09]	schestowitz	and we'll report you
[07:10]		*birkoff (birkoff@freenode-adfd07.pp8t.eshf.59jtia.IP) has joined #techrights
[07:10]	TR News	Spain Fines Apple and Amazon $218 Million for Elbowing Out Small Retailers https://english.aawsat.com/technology/4439731-spain-fines-apple-and-amazon-218-million-elbowing-out-small-retailers
[07:10]	TR Bot	 Spain Fines Apple and Amazon $218 Million for Elbowing Out Small Retailers
[07:11]	TR News	Controlling network access to ICS systems, (Mon, Jul 3rd) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30000
[07:11]	TR Bot	 Controlling network access to ICS systems - SANS Internet Storm Center
[07:12]	TR News	DShield pfSense Client Update, (Fri, Jun 30th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29994
[07:12]	TR Bot	 DShield pfSense Client Update - SANS Internet Storm Center
[07:12]	TR News	GuLoader- or DBatLoader/ModiLoader-style infection for Remcos RAT, (Thu, Jun 29th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29990
[07:13]	TR Bot	 GuLoader- or DBatLoader/ModiLoader-style infection for Remcos RAT - SANS Internet Storm Center
[07:14]	TR News	banksters as mechanisms of slavery and colonialism https://qz.com/the-g20-isnt-taking-the-debt-of-poor-countries-seriousl-1850648221
[07:14]	TR Bot	 The G20 isn't taking the debt of poor countries seriously
[07:14]	TR News	A South Korean Apology https://reason.com/2023/07/17/photo-a-south-korean-apology/
[07:14]	TR Bot	 Photo: A South Korean Apology
[07:14]	TR News	Polos CH32Vxx 32-bit RISC-V MCU boards starts at $1.99 https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/07/18/polos-ch32vxx-32-bit-risc-v-mcu-boards/
[07:14]	TR Bot	 Polos CH32Vxx 32-bit RISC-V MCU boards starts at $1.99 - CNX Software
[07:15]	TR News	An Internet Champion for Africa: Remembering Pierre Oudraogo https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2023/07/an-internet-champion-for-africa-remembering-pierre-ouedraogo/
[07:15]	TR Bot	 An Internet Champion for Africa: Remembering Pierre Oudraogo - Internet Society
[07:16]	TR News	Chinese chip firm wins trade secrets case against US company https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/chinese-chip-firm-wins-trade-secrets-case-against-us-company.html
[07:16]	TR Bot	- Chinese chip firm wins trade secrets case against US company
[07:17]	schestowitz	Neurodiversity is not even a real word
[07:17]	schestowitz	the dictionaries lack it
[07:17]	schestowitz	except the "modernised" ones
[07:18]	schestowitz	which added it for corporate and political purposes
[07:18]	schestowitz	it's not autism
[07:18]	schestowitz	it's just a broad basket
[07:18]	rylcol	Why not real?
[07:18]	schestowitz	people who typically would not find employment
[07:18]	schestowitz	dyslexia, anxiety etc.
[07:18]	DaemonFC	I used to consider "PC security" that I had Trend Micro and ZoneAlarm on a really really de-bloated Windows 98 that was barely even an OS anymore.
[07:18]	schestowitz	people with anxiety
[07:18]	schestowitz	not PMS
[07:18]	schestowitz	but very chronic anxiety
[07:18]	schestowitz	they can flip out
[07:19]	schestowitz	colleagues would not like it
[07:19]	schestowitz	microsoft tried
[07:19]	schestowitz	the experiment did not pan out well
[07:19]	schestowitz	person who were NOT smart
[07:19]	schestowitz	just asked around for volunteers' help
[07:19]	schestowitz	online
[07:19]	schestowitz	instead of doing his word
[07:19]	schestowitz	*work
[07:19]	schestowitz	then stabbed colleagues
[07:19]	schestowitz	neither smart
[07:19]	schestowitz	nor sociable
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[07:20]	schestowitz	but they keep coming up with buzzwords
[07:20]	schestowitz	to seem "inclusive"
[07:20]	schestowitz	"CHECK"
[07:23]	rylcol	Anyway, more people meaning more issues.
[07:23]	schestowitz	let people work from home
[07:23]	schestowitz	less friction
[07:23]	schestowitz	but they want friction
[07:23]	schestowitz	by bosses
[07:23]	schestowitz	aggressing 
[07:24]	rylcol	Many new people were born and they turn adults each year.
[07:24]	schestowitz	micromanagement they call it
[07:24]	rylcol	Not every person has perfect/standard mental health.
[07:25]	rylcol	I feel anxiety most of the time no matter where I am.
[07:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz Worth pointing out......Joseph Cantrell AND three other Microsoft employees didn't know how to do their job at Azure, and had to go to Stack Exchange undercover and ask questions there.
[07:26]	DaemonFC	That was in his drug diary.
[07:26]	rylcol	I have the same issues socializing online if the conversation is identified as possibly dangerous for real life.
[07:27]	DaemonFC	It seems they paid him to sit around and talk about the puss coming out of his dick from the prostitute and how much they should deport Indians in front of all of his co-workers at Microsoft, leading up to the stabbing.
[07:27]	DaemonFC	Also in the diary.
[07:27]	rylcol	Also can't feel good because I used to think of computers as a mean to escape reality.
[07:28]	DaemonFC	He was scaring people around him and got a coaching by one of his Microsoft managers, but not fired.
[07:28]	DaemonFC	This would have been instant termination at Walmart.
[07:28]	DaemonFC	Can't/doesn't do the job. Talks about his venereal diseases in meetings. Makes racist comments in the breakroom. Lots of drugs. STAB STAB.
[07:29]	DaemonFC	I mean, they would have gotten rid of him before the stabbing.
[07:30]	DaemonFC	mjg59_: "Microsoft is sadly doing fine." Oh yes, this paints the picture of a healthy company that is well managed.
[07:30]	DaemonFC	Doesn't it?
[07:30]	schestowitz	lol
[07:30]	schestowitz	tell gulag to stfu and focus on paying back his debt
[07:30]	schestowitz	and also,
[07:30]	schestowitz	stopm doxing me
[07:30]	starstreak	lmao
[07:30]	DaemonFC	"MY SUPERIOR GERMAN GENES DIDN'T PROTECT ME FROM....THE CLAP!!!!!!"
[07:30]	schestowitz	stop sending me threats
[07:30]	starstreak	<schestowitz> Neurodiversity is not even a real word
[07:30]	starstreak	<schestowitz> the dictionaries lack it
[07:30]	starstreak	<schestowitz> except the "modernised" ones
[07:30]	starstreak	<schestowitz> which added it for corporate and political purposes
[07:30]	DaemonFC	CLAP ON CLAP OFF! THE CLAPPER!
[07:31]	starstreak	thats insane
[07:31]	schestowitz	the media "forgot" cantrell
[07:31]	schestowitz	it's in the courts now for sure
[07:31]	schestowitz	but they won't cover it
[07:31]	DaemonFC	It is.
[07:31]	schestowitz	he's likje another rich allen jones
[07:31]	schestowitz	*rick
[07:31]	DaemonFC	The local news says "Microsoft employee stabbed by stranger."
[07:31]	DaemonFC	Stranger? They both worked there.
[07:32]	DaemonFC	Microsoft has a hiring program that is looking for people like Cantrell.
[07:32]	starstreak	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurodiversity
[07:32]	TR Bot	 Neurodiversity - Wikipedia
[07:32]	DaemonFC	Cantrell himself even named it. In the drug diary. He said he was hired by their Neurodivergent Hiring Program.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	A lot of people eventually get the clap. Usually while they're young.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Then if they're smart they just use condoms.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Like, most people need to be knocked down a couple pegs.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	And eventually most people are.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	Like, when I was a teenager you just went to the doctor and swallowed a few pills and you didn't have it anymore.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	It wasn't some drug resistant monster back then.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	We're entering a post-antibiotic world where you have to be very careful what you do.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	But the 90s and 2000s were not like this.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	So there was more room to let your guard down a little.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	Now there's not.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	I mean, even the microbes evolve and make the future terrible.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	It's not bad enough we're in a debt-addled country without any jobs.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Now a guy can't even go and get the clap anymore and go pssshaw that little thing?
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Meet my friend, CIPRO.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Buh bye!
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Like, I don't want to be in the future (now) for so many reasons.
[07:37]	schestowitz	Cantrell will never work again
[07:37]	schestowitz	maybe he will even kill himself after he does time
[07:37]	schestowitz	Cantrell won't be remembered by MSFT
[07:38]	DaemonFC	He was close to killing himself before Microsoft hired him.
[07:38]	schestowitz	oh
[07:38]	DaemonFC	Hundreds of other companies said no.
[07:38]	schestowitz	in the diary too?
[07:38]	DaemonFC	He was out of food.
[07:38]	starstreak	https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/18/23799266/reddit-app-icons-ugly
[07:38]	TR Bot	 Reddits only free iOS app icons are ugly now - The Verge
[07:38]	DaemonFC	His dog was starving.
[07:38]	schestowitz	suicidal thoughts?
[07:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz You could tell he was getting bad. Like, dire.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	He was depressed and angry and he was feeling ashamed about not even being able to feed his dog. He seems to have really liked his dog.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	(So did Hitler.)
[07:39]	starstreak	https://www.geekwire.com/2023/suspect-in-alleged-stabbing-of-fellow-microsoft-employee-pleads-not-guilty-to-attempted-murder/
[07:39]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.geekwire.com/2023/suspect-in-alleged-stabbing-of-fellow-microsoft-employee-pleads-not-guilty-to-attempted-murder/ )
[07:40]	DaemonFC	Almost everyone pleads not guilty in arraignment court.
[07:41]	DaemonFC	The only people who plead guilty in arraignment court are idiots and horrible people that are feeling so guilty that they know they should be punished severely.
[07:44]	DaemonFC	You plead not guilty, demand a trial, and wait for an offer from the prosecutor.
[07:44]	DaemonFC	Nearly everyone gets an offer because they want rid of it fast and cheap.
[07:45]	DaemonFC	But you're right about Cantrell. Because there's all this evidence, the offer will be severe.
[07:45]	DaemonFC	Not as bad as pleading guilty at an arraignment court or being found guilty at trial, but bad. (For him.)
[07:46]	DaemonFC	He'll probably get like at least 10-15 years in prison before he's paroled.
[07:46]	DaemonFC	If he's smart he'll take it because they'll give him 20-25 if they have to go to trial.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	When he is paroled, they'll probably send him to a halfway house, and give him a list of demands, including drug monitoring.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	They'll help him find a job and keeping the job will be a condition of parole.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	It probably won't be Microsoft.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	It might be a Burger King.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	I mean, he's going to have a bad life.
[07:48]	DaemonFC	They're never going to stop keeping track of him.
[07:48]	DaemonFC	He'll always be a convicted felon.
[07:48]	elusive_woman	what makes him a nazi?
[07:49]	DaemonFC	He cites numerous Nazi viewpoints as his own, almost verbatim. In his diary.
[07:49]	schestowitz	geeekwire is a Microsoft propaganda rag
[07:51]	starstreak	you said that microsoft was supressing the story and their propaganda rag has the story
[07:51]	TR News	Canada's massive wildfire problem is worsening https://qz.com/canadas-massive-wildfire-problem-is-worsening-1850647931
[07:51]	TR Bot	 Canada's massive wildfire problem is getting even worse
[07:52]	TR News	Cybercriminals stole $666 million from cryptocurrency projects in first half of 2022 https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/07/cybercriminals-stole-666m-from-crypto-projects-in-h1-2023/
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Cybercriminals stole $666 million from cryptocurrency projects in first half of 2022 - Techzim
[07:53]	schestowitz	starstreak: it's not the storyu
[07:53]	schestowitz	it's spin
[07:53]	schestowitz	and googlebombing
[07:53]	schestowitz	they did this with last week's layoffs too
[07:53]	schestowitz	i did a whole series about geekwire last year
[07:53]	schestowitz	they burn sourced
[07:53]	starstreak	how is it spin?
[07:53]	schestowitz	turning them in to microsoft
[07:53]	schestowitz	sigh, cya later
[07:54]	TR News	Elon Musk said Twitter's ad revenue has halved https://qz.com/elon-musk-twitter-ad-revenue-50-percent-cashflow-1850646614
[07:54]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk says Twitter ad revenue has halved
[07:55]	TR News	Threads Reaches One-Fifth the Number of Weekly Active Users on Twitter In A Week https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/17/threads-achieves-weekly-active-users-twitter-week/
[07:55]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/17/threads-achieves-weekly-active-users-twitter-week/ )
[07:55]	DaemonFC	Eventually there won't be any more trees left to burn and the government saved the world once again.
[07:56]	TR News	"Chinese officials demand satirical singer-songwriter delete his Twitter account" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/crazy-zhang-07172023151111.html
[07:56]	TR Bot	 From exile, Crazy Zhang' vows to keep putting out hard-hitting music Radio Free Asia
[07:56]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: it's a miracle economy
[07:56]	schestowitz	wall street keeps burning
[07:56]	schestowitz	330 million americans
[07:56]	schestowitz	to go "up"
[07:56]	schestowitz	chewing up the capital
[07:56]	schestowitz	you get empty shopping mals
[07:57]	schestowitz	billie swqeater esptein gets a fourth aircraft
[07:57]	schestowitz	that he does not even use
[07:57]	starstreak	late stage capitalism
[07:57]	schestowitz	not enough kids on board
[07:58]	TR News	DeNazis fires staff, scales back travel as polls dip below 20% https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/desantis-fires-staff-travel-trump
[07:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/desantis-fires-staff-travel-trump )
[07:59]	TR News	So Elon Musk promoting DeNazis was not enough. Maybe Twitter should start endorsing Trump again and make a back room deal in Moscow (I get you elected, you bail Twitter out).
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[07:59]	TR News	Twitters Elon Musk reports negative cash flow, due to 50% drop in advertising revenue https://www.france24.com/en/technology/20230716-twitter-s-cash-flow-still-negative-as-elon-musk-takeover-sees-advertising-plummet
[07:59]	TR Bot	 Twitters Elon Musk reports negative cash flow, due to 50% drop in advertising revenue
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[08:00]	TR News	"e-court-if-cops-are-going-to-digitally-wiretap-a-facebook-account-they-need-a-wiretap-order/">New Jersey Supreme Court: If Cops Are Going To Digitally Wiretap A Facebook Account" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/new-jersey-supreme-court-if-cops-are-going-to-digitally-wiretap-a-facebook-account-they-need-a-wiretap-order/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:00]	TR Bot	Jersey Supreme Court: If Cops Are Going To Digitally Wiretap A Facebook Account, They Need A Wiretap Order | Techdirt
[08:00]	TR News	How To Change Hostname on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/change-hostname-debian-12/
[08:00]	TR Bot	 How To Change Hostname on Debian 12 - idroot
[08:01]	starstreak	<techrights-news> How To Change Hostname on Debian 12
[08:01]	starstreak	thats news?
[08:02]	starstreak	"how to use hostnamectl"
[08:02]	DaemonFC	https://www.axios.com/2023/07/18/north-korea-us-national-custody-dmz
[08:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/18/north-korea-us-national-custody-dmz )
[08:02]	DaemonFC	It's pretty bad when Americans start defecting to North Korea.
[08:02]	TR News	How To Install ExifTool on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-exiftool-debian-12/
[08:02]	TR Bot	 How To Install ExifTool on Debian 12 - idroot
[08:02]	TR News	How To Install 7-Zip on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-7-zip-debian-12/
[08:02]	TR Bot	 How To Install 7-Zip on Debian 12 - idroot
[08:03]	TR News	AQEMU GUI for QEMU compiled in OE https://bkhome.org/news/202307/aqemu-gui-for-qemu-compiled-in-oe.html
[08:03]	TR Bot	 AQEMU GUI for QEMU compiled in OE
[08:04]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[08:04]	TR News	 (NEW): Aetina introduces fanless NVIDIA Jetson Orin embedded box PCs with Ubuntu 20.04 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Aetina_introduces_fanless_NVIDIA_Jetson_Orin_embedded_box_PCs_w.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Aetina_introduces_fanless_NVIDIA_Jetson_Orin_embedded_box_PCs_w.gmi 
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Aetina introduces fanless NVIDIA Jetson Orin embedded box PCs with Ubuntu 20.04
[08:04]	TR News	 (NEW): The systemd Controversy: A Beginner's Guide to Understanding the Debate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/The_systemd_Controversy_A_Beginner_s_Guide_to_Understanding_the.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/The_systemd_Controversy_A_Beginner_s_Guide_to_Understanding_the.gmi 
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The systemd Controversy: A Beginner's Guide to Understanding the Debate
[08:04]	TR News	 (NEW): VirtualBox 7.0.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/VirtualBox_7_0_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/VirtualBox_7_0_10.gmi 
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0.10
[08:05]	TR News	"Social media needs to burn." https://doctorow.medium.com/let-the-platforms-burn-6fb3e6c0d980
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Let the Platforms Burn. The Opposite of Good Fires is | by Cory Doctorow | Jul, 2023 | Medium
[08:07]	DaemonFC	I don't know how there are people who think Elon Musk is a genius.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	He sits down for an interview and he's got nothing. Ever.
[08:07]	DaemonFC	He doesn't even know what he's saying.
[08:09]	schestowitz	smokes pot
[08:09]	schestowitz	it's part of the marketing
[08:09]	schestowitz	like bill and water buckets
[08:09]	schestowitz	and lists of books
[08:09]	schestowitz	they pay for the PR 
[08:09]	schestowitz	to built an image
[08:09]	schestowitz	prowess
[08:09]	schestowitz	even after the epstein thing
[08:09]	schestowitz	bill gates was still "says" and "says"
[08:10]	schestowitz	even after the divorce
[08:10]	schestowitz	he buys such pieces
[08:10]	schestowitz	bribes the publisherd
[08:10]	schestowitz	and they swallow the money
[08:10]	schestowitz	megalomania
[08:10]	schestowitz	and narcissists
[08:10]	schestowitz	bill and melon
[08:10]	schestowitz	bill and melonda gates foundation
[08:10]	schestowitz	bill and melon musk
[08:11]	starstreak	can you show me on the doll where bill gates touched you?
[08:12]	starstreak	"California needs to burn. It needs an orderly bankruptcy. It needs to revive the controlled good fire that kept the land safe and healthy and allowed humans and forests to peacefully co-exist." -Cory Doctorow
[08:12]	starstreak	lol
[08:13]	schestowitz	false quote
[08:13]	schestowitz	not funny
[08:13]	schestowitz	you keep doing it
[08:14]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[08:15]	mjg59_	False quote?
[08:15]	mjg59_	https://doctorow.medium.com/let-the-platforms-burn-6fb3e6c0d980
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Let the Platforms Burn. The Opposite of Good Fires is | by Cory Doctorow | Jul, 2023 | Medium
[08:16]	mjg59_	Appears to be an absolutely accurate quote
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[08:20]	starstreak	thats not a false quote
[08:20]	schestowitz	ah, i see it now there too
[08:20]	schestowitz	i focused at first on socoail media
[08:20]	schestowitz	he then has a go at CA
[08:20]	schestowitz	not canada
[08:21]	schestowitz	he's in london now
[08:21]	schestowitz	he was from canada
[08:21]	starstreak	you posted a link to medium.com, a paywall
[08:21]	schestowitz	california has a ton of homeless people
[08:21]	schestowitz	high rents, endless debt
[08:21]	starstreak	https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/18/urban-wildlife-interface/#combustible-walled-gardens
[08:21]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Podcasting Let the Platforms Burn (18 July 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[08:21]	mjg59_	A thing you can do is put things into a search engine
[08:22]	starstreak	Writer, blogger, activist. Blog: https://pluralistic.net; Mailing list: https://pluralistic.net/plura-list; Mastodon: @pluralistic@mamot.fr
[08:22]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow No trackers, no ads. Black type, white background. Privacy policy: we don't collect or retain any data at all ever period.
[08:22]	TR Bot	 Plura-list Info Page
[08:22]	starstreak	Social Media needs to burn! Check out my mastadon!
[08:23]	schestowitz	[08:05] <schestowitz-pi3> he still uses some 
[08:23]	schestowitz	[08:05] <schestowitz-pi3> what i would do and did: post a pointer to the rss feed/s, say goodbye
[08:23]	schestowitz	[08:05] <schestowitz-pi3> those who care enough will follow 
[08:23]	schestowitz	[08:05] <schestowitz-pi3> pin/stick it
[08:23]	schestowitz	from another channel
[08:24]	schestowitz	"alcohol should be banned"
[08:24]	schestowitz	[sips beer]
[08:28]	TR News	Links 19/07/2023: Bubble 6.0 Released, Posting from Haiku OS | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/posting-from-haiku-os/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/posting-from-haiku-os/
[08:28]	TR Bot	 Links 19/07/2023: Bubble 6.0 Released, Posting from Haiku OS | Techrights
[08:30]	starstreak	lol
[08:30]	starstreak	only insane people use rss these days
[08:32]	schestowitz	in technical area -- no
[08:32]	schestowitz	maybe in something like arts, cooking
[08:32]	schestowitz	people look for the "apps"
[08:35]	TR News	Links 19/07/2023: Vanilla 4.0, Cython 3.0.0, and VirtualBox 7.0.10 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/cython-3-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/cython-3-0/
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Links 19/07/2023: Vanilla 4.0, Cython 3.0.0, and VirtualBox 7.0.10 | Techrights
[08:37]	starstreak	its like usenet or fidonet
[08:38]	starstreak	i remember when i was in grade 8, my teacher saw me on usenet and said "half the people on usenet are insane"
[08:38]	TR News	"Law enforcement agencies often command an outsized portion of city and county budgets." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/if-the-crime-rate-goes-down-after-half-a-cop-shop-quits-what-are-we-even-paying-for/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:38]	TR Bot	The Crime Rate Goes Down After Half A Cop Shop Quits, What Are We Even Paying For? | Techdirt
[08:39]	TR News	5th amendment https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/top-court-in-illinois-says-compelling-password-production-isnt-a-fifth-amendment-violation/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:39]	TR Bot	Court In Illinois Says Compelling Password Production Isnt A Fifth Amendment Violation | Techdirt
[08:39]	starstreak	i checked out usenet a few years ago and noticed 100% were insane
[08:40]	mjg59_	Usenet is just a media distribution network these days
[08:40]	starstreak	it was religious stuff, pro trump stuff, conspiracy theories and spam
[08:40]	mjg59_	There's a few private hierarchies that are high S:N, but otherwise it's a wasteland
[08:40]	TR News	"A Lendlease spokesman on Tuesday confirmed the company will lay off about 740 people." https://michaelwest.com.au/property-giant-lendlease-to-lay-off-740-employees/ | Source: Michael West Media
[08:40]	TR Bot	 Property giant Lendlease to lay off 740 employees - Michael West
[08:41]	starstreak	although alt.binaries is apparently still used for piracy
[08:41]	TR News	<li>
[08:42]	TR News	"I present to you my complete and working guide to installing NixOS on a Raspberry Pi 4." https://mtlynch.io/nixos-pi4/ | Source: Michael Lynch
[08:42]	TR Bot	NixOS on Raspberry Pi 4 mtlynch.io
[08:42]	TR News	"The only way to navigate to it is via keyboard navigation. Hit your Tab button!" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/07/this-link-is-only-available-by-keyboard-navigation/ | Source: Terence Eden
[08:42]	TR Bot	 This link is only available by keyboard navigation Terence Edens Blog
[08:42]	mjg59_	Yeah almost everyone using it is just using it to move large binaries around in an amazingly inefficient way
[08:42]	TR News	"These days, modern versions of su interpret 'su -' as 'su -l' (via)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/SuDashHistory | Source: University of Toronto
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/SuDashHistory
[08:44]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[08:44]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[08:44]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[08:44]	starstreak	LOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whopper_Sacrifice
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Whopper Sacrifice - Wikipedia
[08:45]	starstreak	Burger King had a promotion giving away free whoppers for unfriending 10 people on facebook
[08:46]	TR News	"In this guide, I'd like to share with you how to install Alpine Linux" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-07-14-alpine-linux-from-ram-but-persistent.html | Source: Data Swamp
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : How-to install Alpine Linux in full ram with persistency
[08:46]	TR News	"Apparently, desktop Linux use measures 3.08 percent, lagging about a quarter behind the usage of ChromeOS at 4.15 percent." https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/linux_desktop_debate/ | Source: The Register UK
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Linux has nearly half of the desktop OS Linux market The Register
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[09:10]		*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@rpjmgqtu82ew2.irc) has joined #techrights
[09:12]	starstreak	"640k ought to be enough for anyone" -Roy
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[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[09:31]	starstreak	my internet went out for a few minutes
[09:32]	starstreak	Roy must have been DDoSing me
[09:42]	DaemonFC	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=smipwusr-pU
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Ron Swanson's Government Crash Course | Parks and Recreation - Invidious
[09:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz ^
[09:46]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwe6fV-teo
[09:46]	TR Bot	https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=oQwe6fV-teo
[09:46]	TR Bot	yt.oelrichsgarcia.de | Ron Swanson Loves Capitalism and Libertarianism | Parks and Recreation - Invidious
[09:46]	DaemonFC	"It's what makes our country great. And England okay. And France terrible."
[09:47]	DaemonFC	mjg59_Yeah almost everyone using it is just using it to move large binaries around in an amazingly inefficient way
[09:47]	DaemonFC	Is there any particular reason why you would?
[09:48]	DaemonFC	BitTorrent is more efficient.
[09:57]	DaemonFC	"I call it a turf and turf. This is a 16 ounce sirloin and this is a 24 ounce porterhouse. This is whiskey, and this is a cigar. I'm going to have all of this right now because I am a free American."
[09:57]	DaemonFC	:)
[09:57]	schestowitz	back
[09:57]	schestowitz	did exercise
[09:58]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: american free-dumb
[09:58]	schestowitz	go to the mall
[09:58]	schestowitz	get shot
[09:58]	schestowitz	at random
[09:58]	schestowitz	free-dumb
[09:59]	schestowitz	starstreak: nothing to do with me
[09:59]	schestowitz	from what DaemonFC showed, you're the one sniffing people's clients and such
[09:59]	TR News	"It is now possible to upgrade Linux Mint 21 and 21.1 to version 21.2." https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4550 | Source: Linux Mint
[09:59]	TR Bot	 How to upgrade to Linux Mint 21.2 The Linux Mint Blog
● Jul 19
[10:00]	DaemonFC	schestowitz Get shot by some loser.
[10:00]	DaemonFC	Like Cantrell.
[10:00]	schestowitz	yeah
[10:00]	schestowitz	no way to prevent it
[10:00]	schestowitz	"don't go out"
[10:00]	schestowitz	or they do drive-by shooting
[10:00]	starstreak	i was satirizing you
[10:00]	schestowitz	because of your neighbour
[10:00]	starstreak	you always claim microsoft is DDoSing you
[10:00]	TR News	"The Squirrel Box is a small, remote device that measures key soil metrics, like pH levels, moisture content, ambient conditions" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/07/18/the-squirrel-box-aims-to-bring-trust-to-smart-agriculture/ | Source: Arduino
[10:00]	TR Bot	 The Squirrel Box aims to bring trust to smart agriculture | Arduino Blog
[10:00]	TR News	"This paper presents the Squirrel Box, a robust device for outdoor soil and environmental monitoring, providing data on soil metrics" https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3597512.3600209 | Source: ACM
[10:00]	TR Bot	 
[10:00]	schestowitz	i did not
[10:01]	schestowitz	i saw ddos when it's ddos
[10:01]	schestowitz	i didn't say mibbit was ddos
[10:01]	schestowitz	it was tons of microsoft employees reading about layoffs
[10:01]	schestowitz	as we kept breaking that story
[10:01]	schestowitz	even weeks prior
[10:02]	TR News	"Beyond controlling the geared DC and servo motors" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/07/18/this-remote-controlled-highly-mobile-robot-features-a-4dof-arm-and-an-onboard-camera/ | Source: Arduino
[10:02]	TR Bot	 This remote-controlled, highly mobile robot features a 4DOF arm and an onboard camera | Arduino Blog
[10:02]	TR News	"MiuraKit isnt any one robot, but rather a set of tools and designs that can be combined to build robots and shape-changing interfaces." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/07/18/miurakit-simplifies-pneumatic-robot-design/ | Source: Arduino
[10:02]	TR Bot	 MiuraKit simplifies pneumatic robot design | Arduino Blog
[10:02]	mjg59_	Microsoft employees all choosing to join IRC every two minutes, saying nothing, and then disconnecting
[10:02]	TR News	"Neo6502 Firmware development update. Paul Robson does amazing work, and on top of his super Basic he added Apple ][ compatible mode." https://olimex.wordpress.com/2023/07/18/neo6502-firmware-update-neo6502-prototypes-are-on-the-web-for-developers/ | Source: Olimex
[10:02]	TR Bot	 Neo6502 firmware update! Neo6502 prototypes are on the web for developers! | olimex
[10:03]	starstreak	<schestowitz> it was tons of microsoft employees reading about layoffs
[10:03]	starstreak	lol
[10:03]	mjg59_	They've also all stopped doing so suddenly
[10:03]	DaemonFC	Matt GULAG and his botnet of Windows drones.
[10:03]	TR News	"Ive been doing my email using the Mimestream app for the last six weeks or so, and apparently Im not going back to Gmail-in-the-browser" https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2023/07/18/Mimestream | Source: Tim Bray
[10:03]	TR Bot	 ongoing by Tim Bray Mimestream
[10:04]	starstreak	"i didn't get DDoS'd, it was just thousands of microsoft employees reading my articles"
[10:04]	TR News	Our favourite thing about the weekend was noticing just how many exhibits were powered by Raspberry Pi." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/sneak-peek-inside-the-first-ever-open-sauce-event-in-san-francisco/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Sneak peek inside the first ever Open Sauce event in San Francisco - Raspberry Pi
[10:04]	schestowitz	we had 50 hits/sec or more for one day
[10:05]	mjg59_	If I had a Windows botnet I'd be doing more interesting things with it
[10:05]	mjg59_	But I don't
[10:08]	TR News	"The Cloud Development Kit for Terraform (CDKTF) is an alternative to the traditional HashiCorp Configuration Language (HCL)." https://earthly.dev/blog/iac-terraform-cdk/ | Source: Earthly
[10:08]	TR Bot	 Infrastructure as Code Made Easy: A Beginners Guide to Terraform CDK - Earthly Blog
[10:08]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: interest rates  rose again
[10:08]	schestowitz	some banks give close to 5.5%
[10:08]	schestowitz	even for 2 years
[10:08]	schestowitz	even landlords didn't get this years ago
[10:08]	schestowitz	not even counting repeairs and hassle
[10:08]	schestowitz	the mortgage market is in the sewer
[10:09]	schestowitz	they milk out what they can now
[10:09]	TR News	"Lessons on code quality start in the first few weeks of learning to program [...] But it is so easy to lose sight of why." https://www.pathsensitive.com/2023/07/ | Source: James Koppel
[10:09]	TR Bot	 July 2023 | Path-Sensitive
[10:09]	TR News	"In data analysis and manipulation tasks" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/07/efficiently-finding-duplicate-rows-in-r-a-comparative-analysis/ | Source: Rlang
[10:09]	TR Bot	Finding Duplicate Rows in R: A Comparative Analysis | R-bloggers
[10:10]	TR News	"Python is a high-level general-purpose language that supports classes as part of its built-in object-oriented programming (OOP) paradigm." https://earthly.dev/blog/python-closures-decorators/ | Source: Earthly
[10:10]	TR Bot	 An Introduction To Closures and Decorators in Python - Earthly Blog
[10:11]	TR News	MSFT layoffs then... and now... then: 10,000+ in a month, then thousands each month. Now: 1000+ in ONE WEEK!!
[10:12]	starstreak	Techrights is winning!
[10:14]	schestowitz	no, it is not a sport
[10:14]	starstreak	After many years, your articles are destroying Microsoft.
[10:14]	starstreak	No wonder they got you suspended.
[10:18]	schestowitz	you are just trying to provoke now
[10:18]	schestowitz	anyway, the articles are a case of reporting
[10:18]	schestowitz	and giving a voice to insiders
[10:18]	schestowitz	today we have EPO leaks
[10:18]	schestowitz	we did huge damage to github
[10:18]	schestowitz	many resigned
[10:19]	starstreak	Obviously because of your impressive articles.
[10:19]	schestowitz	there are many factors
[10:19]	schestowitz	reporting for suppressed voices does help
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:21]	DaemonFC	Ron Swanson on Parks & Recreation reminds me of myself.
[10:21]	DaemonFC	mjg59_If I had a Windows botnet I'd be doing more interesting things with it
[10:22]	DaemonFC	What would you use your botnet for?
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[10:22]	TR News	"Still, its worth considering what we lose if our area codes, prefixes, and line numbers are slowly washed away by the sands of time." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/phone-number-technology-infrastructure/674735/ | Source: The Atlantic
[10:22]	TR Bot	 Phone Numbers Are a Perfect Technology - The Atlantic
[10:22]	schestowitz	leet badboy
[10:22]	schestowitz	"anarchist"
[10:22]	schestowitz	works for gulagboy
[10:22]	schestowitz	bombing tents
[10:22]	schestowitz	and caamels
[10:22]	schestowitz	and kids
[10:22]	schestowitz	so l33t
[10:23]	schestowitz	don't miss out
[10:23]	schestowitz	the edge of the knife
[10:23]	schestowitz	just the tip
[10:23]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lHARAJFSgw
[10:23]	TR Bot	https://inv.zzls.xyz/watch?v=7lHARAJFSgw
[10:23]	TR Bot	inv.zzls.xyz | Ron Swanson vs. meditation | Parks and Recreation - Invidious
[10:23]		*schestowitz listens...
[10:24]	TR News	"In-N-Out did not respond to a request for comment" https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/in-n-out-face-masks-not-allowed-where-and-why-rcna94842 | Source: NBC
[10:24]	TR Bot	 In-N-Out Burger bars employees in 5 states from wearing masks to emphasize their 'smiles and other facial features'
[10:24]	TR News	"On the other hand, as Rosa Cohen points out, we must understand demotivation as an emotional state that can have different causes" https://english.elpais.com/society/2023-07-17/children-sophophobia-what-is-it-and-why-does-it-occur.html | Source: El Pas
[10:24]	TR Bot	 Children sophophobia: What is it, and why does it occur? | Society | EL PAS English
[10:24]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: looks like the mayor you helped
[10:24]	schestowitz	with the tasche
[10:24]	starstreak	"Phone Numbers Are a Perfect Technology - The Atlantic" <-- ok boomer lol
[10:25]	TR News	"But the opposite of controlled burns isnt no burns, its out-of-control burns: wildfires." https://doctorow.medium.com/let-the-platforms-burn-6fb3e6c0d980 | Source: Cory Doctorow
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Let the Platforms Burn. The Opposite of Good Fires is | by Cory Doctorow | Jul, 2023 | Medium
[10:26]	TR News	"Its as though we are building engines without understanding the science of combustion" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/world/un-security-council-ai.html | Source: New York Times
[10:26]	TR Bot	 U.N. Officials Urge Regulation of AI at Security Council Meeting - The New York Times
[10:26]	TR News	Wikipedia is gamed to death for years already, well before chatbots https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/magazine/wikipedia-ai-chatgpt.html | Source: New York Times
[10:26]	TR Bot	 Wikipedias Moment of Truth - The New York Times
[10:27]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: the yoga instructor reminds me of Jimmy Zemlin
[10:27]	schestowitz	except he does something
[10:28]	TR News	"I called 1-800-Discover to tell them how to reproduce it and expose the users account credentials" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/07/19/i-found-and-reported-a-security-vulnerability-on-discover-banks-mobile-web-site/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
[10:28]	TR Bot	 I Found and Reported a Security Vulnerability on Discover Banks Mobile Web Site. | BaronHK's Rants
[10:28]	TR News	"Week of Con" https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvjv48/week-of-cone-activist-group-is-protesting-driverless-cars-by-disabling-them-with-traffic-cones | Source: Vice Media Group
[10:28]	TR Bot	 Week of Cone: Activist Group Is Protesting Driverless Cars by Disabling Them With Traffic Cones
[10:29]	TR News	Openwashing https://gizmodo.com/meta-and-microsoft-introduce-open-source-llama-2-ai-1850652165 | Source: Gizmodo
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Meta and Microsoft Introduce Llama 2 AI and It's Open Source
[10:29]	TR News	Openwashing in Microsoft spamsite https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/07/18/1076479/metas-latest-ai-model-is-free-for-all/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Metas latest AI model is free for all | MIT Technology Review
[10:30]	TR News	Openwashing, do not be misld https://english.elpais.com/science-tech/2023-07-18/meta-makes-public-its-chatgpt-rival-llama.html | Source: El Pas
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Meta makes public its ChatGPT rival, Llama | Science & Tech | EL PAS English
[10:32]	starstreak	https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-bids-486-linux-adieu/
[10:32]	TR Bot	Torvalds bids 486 Linux adieu | ZDNET
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[10:32]	starstreak	"At some point, people have them as museum pieces. They might as well run museum kernels."
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[10:34]	TR News	Typo watch: 'Millions of emails' for US military sent to .ml addresses in error https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/us_military_mali_email_typos/ | Source: The Register UK
[10:34]	TR Bot	 'Millions of emails' for US military sent to .ml addresses The Register
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[10:34]	TR News	"This decision does not ban Facebook or Instagram in Norway," Tobias Judin" https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/meta-faces-100k-daily-fine-norway-regulator-privacy-101342705 | Source: ABC
[10:34]	TR Bot	 Meta faces $100K daily fine from Norway regulator over privacy concerns in user advertising - ABC News
[10:35]	TR News	"most noteworthy component of the announcement message about the TikTok-WMG deal" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/warner-music-group-tiktok-deal-july-2023/ | Source: Digital Music News
[10:35]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/warner-music-group-tiktok-deal-july-2023/ )
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[11:06]	psydroid2	my AMD systems from the 2000s are in the museum due to excessive power consumption
[11:06]	psydroid2	the boards at least
[11:07]	schestowitz	HUMMEr of CPUs
[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[11:29]	starstreak	schestowitz, your pentium 4 uses more energy than an athlon
[11:36]	TR News	"With a sepia hue and the smell of a campfire engulfing the East Coast, the immediate effects of human-caused climate change" https://fair.org/home/as-skies-turn-orange-media-still-hesitate-to-mention-whats-changing-climate/ | Source: FAIR
[11:36]	TR Bot	 As Skies Turn Orange, Media Still Hesitate to Mention What's Changing Climate - FAIR
[11:37]	TR News	"The purpose of the activation is the production of maps and data of the affected region" https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1215712/copernicus-system-activated-to-map-burned-areas/ | Source: Greece
[11:37]	TR Bot	system activated to map burned areas | eKathimerini.com
[11:37]	TR News	"In May alone, the mercenaries of the Turkish occupation cut down a total of 2,124 olive and pomegranate trees in the occupied Afrin region" https://anfenglishmobile.com/ecology/ecocide-in-turkish-occupied-afrin-continues-68363 | Source: ANF News
[11:37]	TR Bot	 ANF | Ecocide in Turkish-occupied Afrin continues
[11:37]	TR News	"We're developing a new AI-based drone technology to quickly detect forest fires and provide situational awareness when extinguishing the fires" https://www.dw.com/en/europe-and-canada-are-burning-what-can-we-do-to-prevent-wildfires/a-62725149 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:37]	TR Bot	do we fight wildfires as temperatures rise? DW 07/18/2023
[11:37]	TR News	"According to the company's website, passengers can expect to pay between 60 and 80 euros depending on the day of travel" https://yle.fi/a/74-20041541 | Source: YLE
[11:37]	TR Bot	 German bus firm Flixbus opens new Vaasa to Warsaw route | News | Yle Uutiset
[11:38]	TR News	"Note in particular that traders don't actually believe that USDT is safe" https://blog.dshr.org/2023/07/ny-fed-metastablecoins.html | Source: David Rosenthal
[11:38]	TR Bot	 DSHR's Blog: NY Fed: Metastablecoins
[11:40]	TR News	"The move also follows warnings from cybersecurity researchers about abuses committed using the firms' snooping products" https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/us_sanctions_commercial_spyware/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:40]	TR Bot	 US govt adds European spyware vendors to Entity List The Register
[11:40]	TR News	"He eventually moved to Cyprus, a European Union island nation that has become a favored destination in recent years for surveillance firms and cyberintelligence experts." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/us/politics/spyware-blacklist-israel-us.html | Source: New York Times
[11:40]	TR Bot	 U.S. Blacklists Two Spyware Firms Run by an Israeli Former General - The New York Times
[11:40]	TR News	"So, the Saudi people can use Twitter but so can the government and boy, does the government use Twitter." https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/07/when-govts-and-citizens-wage-twitter-wars-can-we-learn-anything-from-saudi-arabi/ | Source: Zimbabwe
[11:40]	TR Bot	 When govts and citizens wage Twitter wars - can we learn anything from Saudi Arabia? - Techzim
[11:41]	TR News	[Old] "What many did not know is that some of the groundwork for the blockade had already been laid on social media platforms like Twitter." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/7/21/the-fake-twitter-accounts-influencing-the-gulf-crisis | Source: Al Jazeera
[11:41]	TR Bot	 The fake Twitter accounts influencing the Gulf crisis | GCC News | Al Jazeera
[11:41]	TR News	"Bill C-18 made its way through the legislative process" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/07/what-if-it-isnt-a-bluff-the-consequences-of-the-governments-epic-bill-c-18-miscalculation-begin-to-set-in/ | Source: Michael Geist
[11:41]	TR Bot	 What If It Isnt a Bluff?!: The Consequences of the Governments Epic Bill C-18 Miscalculation Begin to Set In - Michael Geist
[11:41]	TR News	"The slow collapse of Twitter has inspired a host of would-be successors." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/twitter-threads-new-suggested-rules/674709/ | Source: The Atlantic
[11:41]	TR Bot	 How to Redeem Social Media - The Atlantic
[11:42]	TR News	"the introduction of democracy into the Arab world in this way is a complete illusion that will lead to anarchy in the Middle East." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/07/18/10-years-later-the-deceptive-results-of-the-arab-spring/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
[11:42]	TR Bot	 10 years later: The deceptive results of the Arab Spring - Modern Diplomacy
[11:43]	TR News	"Authorities in Belarus have arrested a prominent journalist working with the U.S.-funded Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/belarus-arrests-prominent-journalist-continued-crackdown-dissent-101396786 | Source: ABC
[11:43]	TR Bot	 Belarus arrests a prominent journalist in its continued crackdown on dissent - ABC News
[11:43]	TR News	"When asked about the missing chats, a Reddit spokesperson pointed Gizmodo to an announcement the platform made last month" https://gizmodo.com/reddit-just-deleted-every-message-you-sent-before-2023-1850648803 | Source: Gizmodo
[11:43]	TR Bot	 Reddit Just Deleted Every Message You Sent Before 2023
[11:44]	TR News	"The France-based founder of the Gulagu.net human rights group, Vladimir Osechkin, helped Filatyev escape Russia for France in August 2022" https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-paratrooper-war-ukraine-asylum-france/32508741.html | Source: RFERL
[11:44]	TR Bot	 Russian Paratrooper Who Condemned War In Ukraine Gets Asylum In France
[11:45]	TR News	"The buyouts and layoffs come amid a broader reorganization at Penguin Random House" https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/top-editors-penguin-random-house-accept-buyout-offers-101361461 | Source: ABC
[11:45]	TR Bot	 Several top editors at Penguin Random House accept buyout offers, layoffs also underway - ABC News
[11:45]	TR News	"At the blockade, Maile met up with other Native Hawaiian professors who were opposed to the project." https://breachmedia.ca/native-hawai%ca%bbians-take-fight-against-canadian-backed-telescope-to-the-un/ | Source: Breach Media
[11:45]	TR Bot	 Native Hawaiians take fight against Canadian-backed telescope to the UN The Breach
[11:46]	TR News	"Instead of protecting freedom of the press, to which he pledged allegiance at the White House Correspondents Dinner in April" https://www.truthdig.com/articles/julian-assange-is-dangerously-close-to-extradition-for-revealing-us-war-crimes/ | Source: Truthdig
[11:46]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/julian-assange-is-dangerously-close-to-extradition-for-revealing-us-war-crimes/ )
[11:46]	TR News	"This is the first time a publisher has been charged under the Espionage Act for disclosing government secrets." https://scheerpost.com/2023/07/18/julian-assange-is-dangerously-close-to-extradition-for-revealing-us-war-crimes/ | Source: Scheerpost
[11:46]	TR Bot	Assange Is 'Dangerously Close' to Extradition for Revealing US War Crimes - scheerpost.com
[11:46]	TR News	"Burkinab authorities should immediately reverse the suspension of French television news channel La Chane Info (LCI) and stop censoring local and foreign media coverage of the jihadist insurgency in Burkina Faso and the Sahel region" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/07/18/burkina-faso-suspends-third-french-media-outlet-in-under-8-months/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
[11:46]	TR Bot	 Burkina Faso suspends third French media outlet in under 8 months - Modern Diplomacy
[11:48]	TR News	"Australian business and government have joined the global chorus warning about the risks artificial intelligence (AI) poses to humanity." https://jacobin.com/2023/07/artificial-intelligence-working-poor-australia-robodebt-welfare-exploitation/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[11:48]	TR Bot	 AI Is Being Used to Attack the Working Poor
[11:51]	starstreak	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4
[11:51]	TR Bot	 Pentium 4 - Wikipedia
[11:56]	schestowitz	nobody here uses pentium
[11:56]	schestowitz	maybe cubexyz did
[11:56]	schestowitz	not sure if he still uses irc
[11:56]	TR News	 (NEW): Enhancing Your Privacy with Encrypted Emails on /e/OS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Enhancing_Your_Privacy_with_Encrypted_Emails_on_e_OS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Enhancing_Your_Privacy_with_Encrypted_Emails_on_e_OS.gmi 
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Enhancing Your Privacy with Encrypted Emails on /e/OS
[11:57]	starstreak	core2duo?
[11:59]	schestowitz	carrying on spying and sniffing
[11:59]	schestowitz	not sure what your point is
[11:59]	schestowitz	"my cpu is bigger than your cpu"
[11:59]	schestowitz	even the "my home is bigger than yours" lamers are usually scams and liars
[11:59]	starstreak	ctcp version is "spying and sniffing"
[11:59]	schestowitz	they just take a big mortgage
● Jul 19
[12:00]	TR News	"Some influencers are members of SAG-AFTRA, but even those who arent are still beholden to the rules of the strike." https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/sag-aftra-issues-strike-guidance-specifically-influencers-confusion-rcna94747 | Source: NBC
[12:00]	TR Bot	 SAG-AFTRA issues strike guidance specifically for influencers amid confusion
[12:00]	TR News	"SAG-AFTRAs strike formally began this past Friday" https://gizmodo.com/sag-aftra-wga-strikes-support-does-and-donts-faq-1850648707 | Source: Gizmodo
[12:00]	TR Bot	 What You Can Do to Support the WGA and SAG-AFTRA Strikes
[12:00]	starstreak	why did you switch from debian to ubuntu?
[12:01]	schestowitz	i never did
[12:01]	schestowitz	it's a gosh-gallop of lies
[12:01]	schestowitz	stop lying about me so I can carry on catchingg up with links
[12:01]	schestowitz	*gish
[12:01]	starstreak	-schestowitz- VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu
[12:04]	schestowitz	2016 machine
[12:04]	TR News	"She and her coworkers walked out after Amazon retaliated by refusing to accommodate her when she sustained an injury on the job." https://jacobin.com/2023/07/amazon-warehouse-workers-pontiac-michigan-strike-teamsters/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Michigan Amazon Workers Staged a Walkout on Prime Day
[12:05]	TR News	"Yet as insurers demand higher rates and cancel policies amidst intensifying climate risks, theyre actively contributing to those risks." https://jacobin.com/2023/07/homeowners-insurers-exploit-climate-crisis-consumer-protections-deregulation/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Home Insurers Are Exploiting the Climate Crisis to Gut Consumer Protections
[12:05]	TR News	"According to the report, it would cost just over $14 billionapproximately 0.009% of global gross domestic product in 2022" https://www.truthdig.com/articles/un-report-reveals-165-million-people-plunged-into-poverty-in-the-past-three-years/ | Source: Truthdig
[12:05]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/un-report-reveals-165-million-people-plunged-into-poverty-in-the-past-three-years/ )
[12:05]	TR News	"The SAG-AFTRA strike is a significant expansion of the scale and momentum of our struggle." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/writers-strike-update-gondelman/ | Source: The Nation
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Hollywood Bosses Are Trying to Scare Striking Workers Into Folding. They Wont Win. | The Nation
[12:06]	TR News	"In this blog post, well discuss these new proposals, as well as ZONEMD." https://blog.apnic.net/2023/07/18/adding-zonemd-protections-to-the-root-zone/ | Source: APNIC
[12:06]	TR Bot	 Adding ZONEMD protections to the root zone | APNIC Blog
[12:06]	TR News	"There are 800,000 EU-based sellers on Amazon, and they have seen the junk-fees that Amazon charges them skyrocket" https://doctorow.medium.com/how-amazon-transformed-the-eu-into-a-planned-economy-dabc63b15449 | Source: Cory Doctorow
[12:06]	TR Bot	 How Amazon transformed the EU into a planned economy | by Cory Doctorow | Jun, 2023 | Medium
[12:09]	TR News	"Want a little more info on how Vampire Survivors came to be?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/check-out-the-mini-vampire-survivors-documentary/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:09]	TR News	"Game store GOG has launched the Make Classics Last Forever Sale, a good chance for you to pick up some retro beauties with money left to spare." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/pick-up-some-absolute-classic-in-the-gog-make-classics-last-forever-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:09]	TR Bot	out the mini Vampire Survivors documentary | GamingOnLinux
[12:09]	TR Bot	up some absolute classic in the GOG 'Make Classics Last Forever Sale' | GamingOnLinux
[12:09]	TR News	"Set in a dystopian future, Full Void fromOutOfTheBit Ltd is out now with Native Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/cinematic-2d-puzzle-platformer-full-void-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:09]	TR Bot	2D puzzle-platformer Full Void is out now | GamingOnLinux
[12:10]	TR News	"Puzzle game lovers will want to check out Lovux, newly released from developer Mindlabor it's all about smashing glass." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/lovux-is-a-clever-glass-smashing-puzzle-game-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:10]	TR Bot	is a clever glass-smashing puzzle game out now | GamingOnLinux
[12:11]	starstreak	gamingonlinux.com uses tracking links
[12:12]	starstreak	ublock origin has blocked: https://track.adtraction.com/t/t?a=1578845458&as=1636858786&t=2&tk=1&url=http://www.gog.com/en/game/master_of_orion_1_2
[12:12]	TR Bot	Master of Orion 1+2 on GOG.com
[12:13]	TR News	"Cloning is the meticulous process of creating an exact replica of a live Linux server by employing the powerful rsync command-line tool" https://www.tecmint.com/clone-linux-server/ | Source: TecMint
[12:13]	TR Bot	 How to Clone or Duplicate a Linux Server with Rsync
[12:13]	TR News	"Rsync (Remote Sync) is the most commonly used command for copying and synchronizing files and directories remotely as well as locally in Linux/Unix systems" https://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/ | Source: TecMint
[12:13]	TR Bot	 16 Practical Examples of Rsync Command in Linux
[12:14]	TR News	Proxmox Series #1: Installing Proxmox https://linuxhandbook.com/installing-proxmox/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[12:14]	TR Bot	 How to Install Proxmox [Proxmox Series #1]
[12:14]	TR News	Taking Linux Security To The Next Level With OpenSnitch Firewall https://ostechnix.com/opensnitch-application-level-firewall-for-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
[12:14]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/opensnitch-application-level-firewall-for-linux/ )
[12:19]	TR News	SpellBinding: AIUQRSM Wordo: HALTS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-07-19.gmi
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:20]	TR News	As if the Ineffable is Always the More Attractive Choice gemini://thurk.org/blog/602.gmi
[12:22]	TR News	Lupa pages has been broken for nearly a week, no updates made //gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[12:23]	schestowitz	starstreak: in relative terms that domain is light
[12:23]	schestowitz	and we cannot just blacklist every single site that has a tracker
[12:23]	schestowitz	as many of them don't even know they have that
[12:23]	schestowitz	they just install "something"
[12:24]	starstreak	https://www.gog.com/en/game/master_of_orion_1_2
[12:24]	TR Bot	Master of Orion 1+2 on GOG.com
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[12:24]	starstreak	you should try it out, great game
[12:24]	starstreak	it'll run on your computer
[12:26]	TR News	Microsoft is failing and it suffers mass layoffs all the time. For now it's trying to squeeze money out of prisoners... to balance the books https://qz.com/microsofts-new-price-plans-for-ai-are-trying-to-make-ba-1850647481
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is charging fees for some Bing and Office AI tools
[12:29]	schestowitz	i stopped playing games, some of them i found addictive
[12:29]	schestowitz	the best solution is, don't start :-)
[12:29]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Vampire Survivors, GOG, Full Void, and Lovux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Games_Vampire_Survivors_GOG_Full_Void_and_Lovux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Games_Vampire_Survivors_GOG_Full_Void_and_Lovux.gmi 
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Vampire Survivors, GOG, Full Void, and Lovux
[12:29]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[12:30]	TR News	 (NEW): Open Hardware: Squirrel Box, AgriTech, MiuraKit, Raspberry Pi, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Open_Hardware_Squirrel_Box_AgriTech_MiuraKit_Raspberry_Pi_and_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Open_Hardware_Squirrel_Box_AgriTech_MiuraKit_Raspberry_Pi_and_M.gmi 
[12:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware: Squirrel Box, AgriTech, MiuraKit, Raspberry Pi, and More
[12:30]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[12:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[12:30]	TR News	Mozilla and spyware: "How to use Fakespot, the AI tool that helps you detect fake reviews" https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/how-to-use-fakespot/ | Source: Mozilla
[12:30]	TR Bot	 How To Use Fakespot Avoid Fake Reviews
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[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jul 19
[13:14]	psydruid	Hardware shaming is really pathetic, but it's something we have come to expect from Red Crap and Microsoft pushers
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[13:19]	ZedHedTed	oh gosh what did i miss? are they pulling the "your hardware is too old" when it really isn't crap?
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[13:32]	psydruid	http://techrights.org/irc/
[13:32]	psydruid	Earlier today
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[13:38]	ZedHedTed	wow it was wicked active at that time
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[13:45]	psydruid	I didn't really pay attention because I was busy looking at some code, but there will always be older hardware that is just fine to use
[13:46]	psydruid	and never operating systems and application software don't always give a better user experience
[13:46]	psydruid	it's mostly just hardware and software churn with no tangible benefit
[13:47]	ZedHedTed	bad
[13:48]	psydruid	newer*
[13:49]	psydruid	I'm on a laptop from 2016 here and it works just fine, although I notice that some software is getting more bloated and heavier
● Jul 19
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[14:10]	ZedHedTed	my 2012 Asus U56E worked just fine for most tasks even last year
[14:10]	ZedHedTed	if it was worth the effort to replace the thermal paste, it would probably still be fine today
[14:13]	psydruid	I did that with one of my desktops a few years ago
[14:13]	psydruid	I just replaced the thermal paste and it was good to go again
[14:13]	psydruid	the only reason why I'm not using it anymore is that any modern system is much faster while consuming less power
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jul 19
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[15:47]	ZedHedTed	anything w/ less than 2C/4T is probably gonna run very slowly nowadays if, like most users, you need to multitask
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[16:10]		*schestowitz back
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[16:11]	ZedHedTed	yay
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[16:12]	TR News	"Arduino announced yesterday a new development board from the Nano family." https://linuxgizmos.com/arduino-launches-nano-esp32-board-for-20-00/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[16:12]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/arduino-launches-nano-esp32-board-for-20-00/ )
[16:12]	TR News	"The Alp Electronix RP2040-ESP32C3 Dev Board is a versatile and compact development board designed to meet the needs of both hobbyists and developers." https://linuxgizmos.com/dev-board-combines-rp2040-and-esp32-c3-module/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[16:12]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/dev-board-combines-rp2040-and-esp32-c3-module/ )
[16:15]	TR News	"Framework have now put up the modular and customizable Framework Laptop 16 for pre-order featuring the latest AMD Ryzen CPUs and AMD Radeon GPUs." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/the-modular-framework-laptop-16-opens-up-for-pre-orders/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:15]	TR Bot	modular Framework Laptop 16 opens up for pre-orders | GamingOnLinux
[16:15]	TR News	"NVIDIA has released their latest Linux graphics driver update with version 535.86.05. So here's what's new and improved for you." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/nvidia-driver-535-86-05-out-now-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[16:15]	TR Bot	driver 535.86.05 out now | GamingOnLinux
[16:17]	TR News	MySQL high availability made charmingly easy | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/mysql-high-availability Source: Ubuntu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/mysql-high-availability
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[16:17]	TR Bot	high availability made charmingly easy | Ubuntu
[16:18]	TR News	LeakedSource Owner Quit Ashley Madison a Month Before 2015 Hack https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/07/leakedsource-owner-quit-ashley-madison-a-month-before-2015-hack/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[16:18]	TR Bot	 LeakedSource Owner Quit Ashley Madison a Month Before 2015 Hack Krebs on Security
[16:18]	TR News	"Choke Points" https://www.democracynow.org/2023/7/18/john_womack_jr_labor_power_strategy | Source: Democracy Now
[16:18]	TR Bot	 Historian John Womack: Unions Need to Exploit Choke Points in Economy to Grow Working-Class Power | Democracy Now!
[16:19]	TR News	CG, not HEY HI https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/broad-federal-publicity-right-risky-answer-generative-ai-problems | Source: EFF
[16:19]	TR Bot	 A Broad Federal Publicity Right Is a Risky Answer to Generative AI Problems | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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[16:20]	TR News	PRESS Act https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/eff-supports-press-act-protect-journalists | Source: EFF
[16:20]	TR Bot	 EFF Supports the PRESS Act to Protect Journalists | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[16:20]	TR News	"Below, youll find links to actions you can quickly take to contact your lawmaker..." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/you-can-help-stop-these-bad-internet-bills | Source: EFF
[16:21]	TR Bot	 You Can Help Stop These Bad Internet Bills | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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[16:30]	TR News	"Little bothers me more than having to manage passwords, certificates, and wasting time/effort dicking with two-factor authentication schemes - especially the latter because I usually have my phone's radio off because I dislike being interrupted by text messages and/or calls." gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-19-03-dont-step-in-the-gila-monster-shit.gmi
[16:31]	TR News	mrpieceofwork needs a job...: Wednesday: I desperately need a job gemini://rawtext.club/~mrpieceofwork/gemlog/Jul-2023/20230719.gmi
[16:32]	TR News	Pondering conception and such gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-19-02-pondering-conception-and-such.gmi
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[16:32]	TR News	Racing to beat ew0k's plug pull gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-19-01-racing-to-beat-ew0ks-plug-pull.gmi
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[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[17:23]	TR News	Microsoft Whistleblowers Needed for the Public to Know the Full Extent of This Years Layoffs, Plus Temps/&#8217;Permatemps&#8217; and Contractors (Probably Tens of Thousands Made Redundant) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/microsoft-layoffs-four-time-bigger-than-reported/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/microsoft-layoffs-four-time-bigger-than-reported/
[17:23]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Whistleblowers Needed for the Public to Know the Full Extent of This Years Layoffs, Plus Temps/Permatemps and Contractors (Probably Tens of Thousands Made Redundant) | Techrights
[17:26]	TR News	Microsoft Cuts More Staff https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/19/2023-layoff-tracker-microsoft-cuts-more-staff-report-says/?sh=49a82f252232
[17:26]	TR Bot	 2023 Layoff Tracker: Microsoft Cuts More Staff, Report Says
[17:27]	TR News	It should say over 1000 and not repeat the lie about "10,000" earlier this year (it was vastly more)
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[17:28]	TR News	"Satya is a former H1B" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nFLYrS1
[17:28]	TR Bot	 I was warned but did not listen. - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[17:28]	TR News	"OP: SN is bringing over younger, hungriier cheaper H1Bs to replace ya" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nERJuoA
[17:28]	TR Bot	 Well... - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[17:29]	TR News	One hour ago: "Canadians are being replaced by cheaper offshored employees from third world countries; a dollar saved is a dollar earned" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nBcIcxt#replies
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Microsoft confirms fresh round of layoffs, Canadians reportedly affected - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[17:30]	TR News	While ALL costs went UP https://www.seattletimes.com/business/seattle-area-workers-paychecks-shrank-in-2022-why-tech/
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[17:32]	TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
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[17:35]	TR News	'temps' and/or 'permatemps' at Microsoft, who lost their jobs, don't even get counted!
[17:35]	TR News	 (NEW): Awesome Linux Game Tools: NoiseTorch-ng http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Awesome_Linux_Game_Tools_NoiseTorch_ng.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Awesome_Linux_Game_Tools_NoiseTorch_ng.gmi 
[17:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Awesome Linux Game Tools: NoiseTorch-ng
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[17:37]	TR News	 (NEW): Why Understanding Open Source Software Is Important for Aspiring Data Scientists http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Why_Understanding_Open_Source_Software_Is_Important_for_Aspirin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Why_Understanding_Open_Source_Software_Is_Important_for_Aspirin.gmi 
[17:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Why Understanding Open Source Software Is Important for Aspiring Data Scientists
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[17:38]	psydruid	Armenia is still going strong with good old backdoored to the brim Windows XP
[17:39]	psydruid	https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/armenia/#monthly-202007-202307
[17:39]	TR Bot	 Desktop Windows Version Market Share Armenia | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:39]	TR News	"British inflation has fallen by more than expected in June and was its slowest in more than a year at 7.9 per cent" https://michaelwest.com.au/britains-inflation-rate-slows-sharply-to-7-9-per-cent/ | Source: Michael West Media
[17:39]	TR Bot	 Britain's inflation rate slows sharply to 7.9 per cent - Michael West
[17:39]	schestowitz	psydroid2: lol
[17:40]	schestowitz	95% windows https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/armenia/#monthly-202007-202307
[17:40]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Armenia | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:41]	psydruid	yeah
[17:41]	psydruid	but I think they just gave up on desktops and laptops
[17:41]	psydruid	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-202007-202307
[17:41]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:41]	psydruid	whatever was once bought and still works isn't getting replaced
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[17:45]	TR News	"The International Broadcaster Coalition Against Piracy is reporting the completion of a highly successful anti-piracy campaign to protect live cricket" https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-boasts-massive-sports-streaming-disruption-campaign-230718/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[17:45]	TR Bot	Coalition Boasts Massive Sports Streaming Disruption Campaign * TorrentFreak
[17:45]	TR News	"Two photographers who filed a copyright lawsuit against Instagram after their images posted to the platform appeared on BuzzFeed News" https://torrentfreak.com/instagram-not-liable-for-copyright-infringement-over-embedded-images-230718/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[17:45]	TR Bot	Not Liable For Copyright Infringement Over Embedded Images * TorrentFreak
[17:47]	TR News	"We Buy Ugly Houses" https://www.propublica.org/article/behind-the-scenes-of-we-buy-ugly-houses-deal | Source: Pro Publica
[17:47]	TR Bot	 Behind the Scenes of a Deal With a We Buy Ugly Houses Franchise ProPublica
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[17:51]	TR News	Mint 21.2 is desktop Linux without the faff https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/19/mint_212/
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Mint 21.2 is desktop Linux without the faff The Register
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[17:53]	TR News	 (NEW): What Is Ubuntu Pro, and Is It Worth It http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/What_Is_Ubuntu_Pro_and_Is_It_Worth_It.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/What_Is_Ubuntu_Pro_and_Is_It_Worth_It.gmi 
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines What Is Ubuntu Pro, and Is It Worth It
[17:54]	TR News	 (NEW): Best of the Best: Top 10 Ubuntu-Based Linux Distros in 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Best_of_the_Best_Top_10_Ubuntu_Based_Linux_Distros_in_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Best_of_the_Best_Top_10_Ubuntu_Based_Linux_Distros_in_2023.gmi 
[17:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Best of the Best: Top 10 Ubuntu-Based Linux Distros in 2023
[17:55]	TR News	"Sound Of Freedom" https://shadowproof.com/2023/07/18/tried-to-censor-sound-of-freedom-air-horn-my-story/ | Source: Shadowproof
[17:55]	TR Bot	 'Sound Of Freedom' Censorship With An Air HornMy Story
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[18:14]	TR News	Bringing Teams Together (BTT) at the European Patent Office Loathed by the Staff, Based on Internal Survey | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/epo-managers-as-saboteurs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/epo-managers-as-saboteurs/
[18:14]	TR Bot	 Bringing Teams Together (BTT) at the European Patent Office Loathed by the Staff, Based on Internal Survey | Techrights
[18:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:27]	TR News	[Meme] Which Team? A Team of Crooks? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/19/which-team/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/19/which-team/
[18:27]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Which Team? A Team of Crooks? | Techrights
[18:27]	TR News	 (NEW): Stable kernels: Linux 6.4.4, and Linux 6.1.39 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_4_4_and_Linux_6_1_39.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_4_4_and_Linux_6_1_39.gmi 
[18:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Stable kernels: Linux 6.4.4, and Linux 6.1.39
[18:28]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi 
[18:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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[18:43]	TR News	A very dangerous surrender to ByteDance https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/warner-music-group-tiktok-deal-july-2023/
[18:43]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/warner-music-group-tiktok-deal-july-2023/ )
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[18:44]	TR News	Letting Beijing control art and culture intentionally is dangerous https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/tiktok-elevate-launch/
[18:44]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/07/18/tiktok-elevate-launch/ )
[18:45]	TR News	tiktok shilled by Wall Street Times https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/style/pinkydoll-social-media-livestream.html
[18:45]	TR Bot	 PinkyDoll Mesmerized the Internet With Her Imitations of Video Game Characters - The New York Times
[18:46]	TR News	Covid-time pets end up at shelters in Latvia https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/environment/18.07.2023-covid-time-pets-end-up-at-shelters-in-latvia.a516854/
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Covid-time pets end up at shelters in Latvia / Article
[18:46]	TR News	Cremations spiked by more than 70% during China's first COVID-19 wave in Zhejiang https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-cremations-07182023165830.html
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Cremations spiked by more than 70% during China's first COVID-19 wave in Zhejiang Radio Free Asia
[18:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/19/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi 
[18:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
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[19:02]	TR News	What about the US homeless? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/18/world/europe/us-ukraine-aid.html
[19:02]	TR Bot	 The U.S. Announces $750 Million in Aid for Ukraine - The New York Times
[19:03]	TR News	Clownflare itself in an attack. Against many things on the Web. https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/18/cloudflare-report-reveals-disturbing-rise-ddos-attacks-critical-sectors/
[19:03]	TR Bot	report reveals disturbing rise in DDoS attacks against critical sectors - SiliconANGLE
[19:05]	TR News	Lithuanian president calls on Latin America not to be seduced by Russian propaganda https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2037127/lithuanian-president-calls-on-latin-america-not-to-be-seduced-by-russian-propaganda
[19:05]	TR Bot	 Lithuanian president calls on Latin America not to be seduced by Russian propaganda - LRT
[19:07]	TR News	"propaganda and justification of extremist ideology" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/07/18/bill-on-propaganda-and-justification-of-extremist-ideology-introduced-in-russian-state-duma | Source: Meduza
[19:07]	TR Bot	 Bill on propaganda and justification of extremist ideology introduced in Russian State Duma Meduza
[19:10]	TR News	"said that women should give birth as early in life as possible rather than pursuing their education and building careers." https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/07/18/russian-health-minister-says-women-should-give-birth-as-early-as-possible-rather-pursuing-careers | Source: Meduza
[19:10]	TR Bot	 Russian health minister says women should give birth as early as possible rather than pursuing careers Meduza
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[19:22]	TR News	the browser has you gopher://triapul.cz/0/phlog/2023-07-19-the-browser-has-you.txt
[19:23]	TR News	Nasuni says it can restore millions of files hit by ransomware in seconds https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/18/nasuni-says-can-restore-millions-files-hit-ransomware-seconds/
[19:23]	TR Bot	says it can restore millions of files hit by ransomware in seconds - SiliconANGLE
[19:23]	TR News	it can delete Microsoft Windows?
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[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[20:56]	AdmFubar	:)
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[21:09]	DaemonFC	Now the dumpster is missing and there just is no dumpster.
[21:09]	DaemonFC	Operational Improvements
[21:19]	AdmFubar	did you look closely where the dumpster was kept? there might a melted blob of metal where it sat...
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:23]	psydruid	https://www.politico.eu/article/us-economist-fiona-scott-morton-quits-eu-job-emmanuel-macron/
[21:23]	TR Bot	 Top US economist quits EU job after Macron speaks out POLITICO
[21:23]	psydruid	EU lol
[21:28]	DaemonFC	AdmFubardid you look closely where the dumpster was kept? there might a melted blob of metal where it sat...
[21:29]	DaemonFC	Why would there be molten steel where the dumpster was?
[21:29]	DaemonFC	Did superman come by and melt it with his laser eyes?
[21:31]	DaemonFC	I was never really much of a Superman fan anyway. Like, aside from Kryptonite not a lot really stops him.
[21:31]	DaemonFC	He's completely overpowered.
[21:31]	DaemonFC	And they had a lot of weird stuff along the way like a reverse Kryptonite that made him stronger again.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	"Kryptonite radiation can emit through any element except lead. Thus, Superman has a special lead suit to protect himself from the radiation."
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Oh wow, lead suit.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	So like, why does Superman keep getting foiled by Kryptonite when he's Superman and the weight of a lead suit isn't that much for him?
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Like, just fly around in a lead-lined suit just in case and you know maybe kill Lex Luthor instead of handing him to the police.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	He is Kevin Spacey anyway (sometimes) so he deserves it because me too.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	It's pretty clear that Lex Luthor (especially when he's Kevin Spacey) can't be allowed to keep getting away with it/
[21:34]	DaemonFC	And after the UK convicts him he'll just break out of prison again and go after Superman.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	(And Anthony Rapp.)
[21:38]	MinceR	PoundMeToo
[21:45]	DaemonFC	"He raped me!"
[21:46]	DaemonFC	*Stood in a doorway and hit on me is rape.*
[21:46]	DaemonFC	Anthony RAPPE
[21:47]	immibis	in my google takeout is a youtube video with a randomly generated title that I do remember creating, and the video content is a demo of some software stuff that I vaguely remember doing, but the username is cyril (somebody I've never known) and it's running in osx (which I've never had on my computer)
[21:47]	DaemonFC	The very worst that Spacey committed in that incident, according to Rapp's own statements, would be indecent solicitation of a minor, which is a crime, but it's not rape.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	At that point it may have not existed, and if it did was probably a misdemeanor.
[21:48]	immibis	must've been a university group project
[21:50]	DaemonFC	Under Illinois law (which is not where they were) and current revision of the ILCS, Spacey would have committed a Class 3 Felony with 1-3 years of imprisonment. This would have also led to at least 5 years on the sex offender list when he was released from prison.
[21:50]	DaemonFC	But this was almost 25 years ago I think, and in California.
[21:50]	DaemonFC	But realistically even now, in Illinois, Spacey would have taken a plea deal.
[21:51]	DaemonFC	He's rich and can afford a lot of good lawyers, and he can show up and carry himself well in a courtroom.
[21:52]	DaemonFC	The prosecutor would probably agree to come down to Criminal Sexual Abuse as a Class A Misdemeanor.
[21:53]	DaemonFC	They pretty much keep it on the books so rich white people with good lawyers who can behave themselves in court have something to plead down to when they're charged with a felony.
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[21:53]	DaemonFC	Being a rich white person who can behave in court essentially cuts down on your punishment by about 70% all by itself.
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[21:56]	DaemonFC	A lot of the near-universal conviction rate in the US are plea deals and the fact that it largely victimizes non-whites who get the public pretender and go "Oh fuck."
[21:57]	DaemonFC	It's not like the court system could prove half the shit it brings in there. It just goes after people of low status that the state crippled with a bad education and no job and then gives them a shitty lawyer who will fall asleep during the hearing.
[21:58]	AdmFubar	dumpster file.. very hot one..
● Jul 19
[22:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz knows what happened in my case. I had a basically unlimited amount of borrowed money to fight with.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Which episode of Looney Tunes was it where Daffy dives into a bucket of water and blows himself up with dynamite to outdo Bugs Bunny and he's a ghost now and Bugs says "Neat trick, Doc!" and Daffy says "Yeah, but I could only do it once."?
[22:04]	DaemonFC	That's what that felt like.
[22:12]	immibis	thanks to google takeout I find out google has been uploading photos and bookmarks from my phone without my knowledge
[22:13]	immibis	I ask Google: if you've been doing that, *why didn't you download them to my new phone when I got one*?
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[22:28]	DaemonFC	From Chrome?
[22:39]	immibis	yes
[22:41]	DaemonFC	https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1844457
[22:41]	TR Bot	 1844457 - Discover.com login reveals user password in plain text in Firefox for Android
[22:41]	DaemonFC	mjg59_: ^
[22:41]	DaemonFC	:)
[22:42]	DaemonFC	"Since I believe the public has a right to know about security issues that software vendors and Web sites have not fixed, and some vendors just sit on them forever and figure it's not a problem as long as it's not widely known, I have already publicly disclosed this problem on my blog as additional incentive for an investigation and proper and timely fix."
[22:44]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/summit
[22:44]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Summit
[22:46]	DaemonFC	I think that people who find security vulnerabilities should just publicly release them immediately and then tap the vendor/website on the shoulder and go "You might want to fix that." Especially when dealing with Microsoft or Apple.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	Microsoft has a long record of leaving critical CVEs unfixed that were privately reported to them months or years ago.
[22:47]	DaemonFC	Then only fixing them when there's malware on the Web that's already wreaking havoc.
[22:50]	immibis	DaemonFC: that is a good way to get aaron swartzed
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[23:00]	mjg59_	Nah full disclosure is fine if the vendor's being a dick
[23:00]	mjg59_	The Project Zero approach of "Here is a report, here is the disclosure date, we will not negotiate" is an acceptable compromise
[23:01]	immibis	it's only fine because it's the industry norm now thanks to big players like google
[23:01]	mjg59_	I've missed out on bug bounties because the vendor insisted on being able to block disclosure
[23:01]	immibis	otherwise it would still get you aaron swartzed if you disclosed after 90 days - or 365 days - or 99999 days
[23:01]	mjg59_	Not just that, the US codified that certain types of DMCA violations were fine for security research
[23:02]	mjg59_	Otherwise it was an easy mechanism for vendors to fuck with people
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Bug bounties are normally very small compared with just selling them to malware authors.
[23:02]	mjg59_	Reverse engineering our code? You must have violated an effective technical control
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Like 1-2% of what you could make selling them to the bad guys.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	They're a PR stunt.
[23:03]	mjg59_	That's wildly inaccurate
[23:03]	DaemonFC	It's like the government saying "We lost a nuclear weapon and we'll give you $2,000 if you bring it back to us." Meanwhile, some terror group would slip you $20 million dollars.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	You know, so that's a bug bounty program.
[23:03]	mjg59_	The black market value is hugely overstated - a lot of the people who collect these things have sufficient in-house expertise now that buying them on the market isn't necessary
[23:04]	mjg59_	And the payouts from the places that actually matter (like the browser vendors) has increased enough that sure you /might/ make more money on the black market but it's going to be such a pain in the ass why bother
[23:04]	DaemonFC	I've found very few that I would call critical, but I have found some and I've never asked for a CVE.
[23:04]	DaemonFC	And I've always reported them without censoring the bug report.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	Helping someone hide their shit is pretty low.
[23:06]	DaemonFC	I didn't report the bugs that could cause memory corruption and run arbitrary code outside the browser sandbox to help Apple.
[23:06]	MinceR	20 000240 < DaemonFC> Bug bounties are normally very small compared with just selling them to malware authors.
[23:06]	MinceR	what if the bug is _in_ malware, though
[23:06]	MinceR	like windows or systemd
[23:06]	DaemonFC	I did it because I know what China has done to target Webkit.
[23:06]	immibis	mjg59_: the reality is if they don't like you you broke the law, and if they do like you they turn a blind eye
[23:06]	DaemonFC	And they don't hurt Apple. They hurt Chinese people with it.
[23:07]	immibis	it's all power. laws don't matter
[23:07]	DaemonFC	And people who report on the regime.
[23:07]	MinceR	or in the intel management engine
[23:07]	DaemonFC	Well, obviously you can't fix everything.
[23:07]	DaemonFC	You can't find everything.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	Look at the CVE list on every release of Chrome.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	It doesn't average out to be SMALLER now than it was 5 years ago.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	If they were making more progress than they were backsliding then the list would be getting shorter.
[23:08]	immibis	how's the CVE list on Lagrange?
[23:08]	immibis	probably very small
[23:08]	DaemonFC	But they dump a lot of shitty new code in there to do something awful to the user.
[23:08]	DaemonFC	Like FLoC.
[23:08]	immibis	keep in mind that more things get CVEs, though. They could be very theoretical vulnerabilities.
[23:09]	DaemonFC	And then that new code is untested and has more holes.
[23:09]	immibis	they're pushing a thing where sites can cryptographically verify that you're using an unmodified browser on an unmodified phone, and then the website can refuse to show you the page if you're not
[23:10]	MinceR	remote attestation is back?
[23:11]	immibis	google is trying to make it
[23:11]	immibis	then you sue them for anti-trust or something
[23:12]	DaemonFC	Everyone laughs when they see me using one of those fat bicycle tire pumps to air up my car tires.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	I have never had one with a motor that lasted very long.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	Finally I got tired of buying them.
[23:13]	immibis	I thought people usually refilled their tyres at the petrol station. Many of the ones in NZ have free or cheap pressurized air
[23:14]	MinceR	i see gulag really revised their motto
[23:14]	MinceR	it used to be "Don't be evil", now it's just "Be evil"
[23:15]	immibis	that happened a very long time ago
[23:17]	MinceR	in a galaxy very close
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[23:20]	DaemonFC	My dad is still on about "They should round up people with AIDS and send them to camps."
[23:21]	DaemonFC	I usually say, "Nothing bad ever started with 'Let's build camps and put people in them.'".
[23:22]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ lives in a city that had Japanese-Americans rounded up and sent to camps so that White people could steal their homes and businesses while they were "detained".
[23:22]	DaemonFC	Maybe even in one of their houses?
[23:22]	DaemonFC	That's how war criminals do things. They do it and then they don't teach that it happened so that ignorant hipsters don't know and don't care.
[23:23]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ is part of an alien invasion of urban gentrification.
[23:23]	immibis	DaemonFC you think that about transgender people
[23:23]	DaemonFC	They either hose or haul off the inconvenient poor people and take their shit away.
[23:24]	immibis	you think they should round up transgender people and send them to camps..
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Then they say they're a Social Justice Warrior on a company that spreads child porn and employed Peter Bright.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	While mjg59_ sips on his latte professing that he feels offended for you, he sits on a pile of bones.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	immibisDaemonFC you think that about transgender people
[23:25]	DaemonFC	I definitely acknowledge that my country has committed horrific war crimes, some of them while I was in my 20s (so quite recently), and nobody has been punished for them.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	It's all about staggering them out so it never equals the Nazis at any given time, you know.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	Over 40 or 50 years it does, but by then who cares?
[23:27]	MinceR	lol
[23:27]	DaemonFC	So since the 1800s, what the US has done as wartime measures, inclusive, or as reneging on Indian Treaties, has equaled Hitler and the Nazis about 6 times over.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	But it was never in the span of 5 years, so it doesn't matter.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	You just don't tell anyone it happened and they forget, usually within a generation, sometimes sooner.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	There were more bombs dropped on Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia in terms of TNT equivalent, than all of WWII, including the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	That's a lot of bombs. 
[23:29]	DaemonFC	It's a lot of people who were killed that had nothing to do with any war.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	The United States says it recognizes the laws of war but in reality it doesn't. It just does whatever it wants and gaslights about "laws".
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Then it lets mjg59_ in to work for it.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	The US makes up "reasons" why the "laws" don't apply. 
[23:31]	DaemonFC	They're not Prisoners of War, oh no. They're "enemy combatants" and we captured them. Totally not the same thing.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	"Cluster bombs? Oh, we never signed that treaty."
[23:31]	DaemonFC	"We were in bed with the flu while all of civilization signed it."
[23:32]	DaemonFC	They're giving Ukraine cluster bombs now.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Ukraine signed the treaty saying they banned them.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	See how laws work when it's a government?
[23:33]	DaemonFC	Ukraine is disregarding the treaty that it signed because it's no longer convenient.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	The US is givint it cluster bombs that it knows will litter the place with unexploded bombs to clear out the old stuff so it can stockpile new stuff.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	Those things will be going off killing children 70 years from now.
[23:37]	AdmFubar	https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2662289164/
[23:37]	TR Bot	 Twitter 'ghosted' Africa employees without severance pay or benefits: report - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism
[23:39]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: "Ukraine signed the treaty saying they banned them" <- [citation needed]
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[23:40]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: The word "not" is sometimes easy to miss, look more carefully next time.
[23:41]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/19/canada-us-h-1b-visa-work-permit-applications
[23:41]	TR Bot	 Canada recruits high-skilled foreigners in US and gets 10,000 applications | Canada | The Guardian
[23:47]	XRevan86	> schestowitz: Cluster bombs are a shot in the foot for NATO. How much Ukraine "support" money will be funneled to enrich the pockets of rich warlords who sell illegal weapons? What might that do to public support?
[23:47]	XRevan86	Same issue here, they're not illegal. Also not sure how sending stockpiles of ammo is supposed to enrich anyone.
[23:48]	AdmFubar	What???!!!  https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/19/whatsapp-down-2/
[23:48]	TR Bot	outage knocked WhatsApp down | TechCrunch
[23:49]	AdmFubar	https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/18/from-vanmoof-to-vanpoof-how-did-the-e-bike-pioneer-go-bankrupt-even-as-the-market-boomed/
[23:49]	TR Bot	VanMoof to VanPoof! How did the e-bike pioneer go bankrupt, even as the market boomed? | TechCrunch
[23:50]	XRevan86	And I'm going to re-iterate: if the cluster munitions will be used on the frontline, they cannot make the situation worse simply because it is already mined beyond belief.
[23:52]	MinceR	they're also used by the orcs
[23:53]	starstreak	so Roy is pro-russia now?
[23:55]	XRevan86	starstreak: Well, no, he is not, but he does boost pro-Russian narratives when they look plausible to him.
[23:55]	mjg59_	Roy's just not very smart
[23:57]	starstreak	last time i did a ctcp version on the channel, roy was running debian
[23:57]	starstreak	now he runs ubuntu
[23:57]	CrystalMath	you don't have to be pro-russian to realize ukraine is a horrible, criminal, nazi country, and that NATO is the scum of the earth perpetuating evil
[23:57]	starstreak	maybe he works for canonical now
[23:57]	XRevan86	And here's an actual Z-person making an appearance.
[23:57]	CrystalMath	honestly russia has lots of problems
[23:58]	starstreak	lol CrystalMath is a russian troll
[23:58]	CrystalMath	i strongly dislike some of their recent legislation
[23:58]	XRevan86	Weird.
[23:59]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: Not into the Christian Taliban schtick I guess?
[23:59]	CrystalMath	i'm an atheist
[23:59]	CrystalMath	that doesn't mean i would ever be okay with cluster bombs