●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 ●● ● Jan 20 [00:04] techrights-bot #Watchy Pebble-like Smartwatch with E-paper display, ESP32 processor launched for $45 https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/19/watchy-pebble-like-smartwatch-with-e-paper-display-esp32-processor/ [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Watchy Pebble-like Smartwatch with E-paper display, ESP32 processor launched for $45 [00:04] vZS1_2 MinceR: lol [00:05] techrights-bot #eu #privacy https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/8919e38db7496393.jpg [00:07] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:16] Ariadne Elastic i guess is the new SCO [00:17] Ariadne sad! [00:26] vZS1_2 The search tool? [00:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.30 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.61 [00:46] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:47] *mmu_man_ is now known as mmu_man [00:52] Ariadne yeah ok [00:52] Ariadne elastic is definitely the new SCO [00:52] Ariadne http://distfiles.dereferenced.org/gov.uscourts.cand.347725.1.0.pdf [00:52] Ariadne read paragraphs 27 and 28 here [00:52] Ariadne the "copied" code is not remotely the same, and then in paragraph 28 they perjure themselves [00:52] Ariadne what a goddamn trainwreck [00:54] vZS1_2 "Elastic is the creator of the Elastic Stack suite of products that is centered on the popular and powerful Elasticsearch search and analytics engine. Leading companies and organizations like Cisco Systems, Facebook, and NASAs Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology use and depend upon Elasticsearch. " [00:54] vZS1_2 What is advertising doing in a legal document? ● Jan 20 [01:04] kingoffrance "cannot do open wifi" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mme2Aya_6Bc [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I'm Afraid I Can't Do That, Dave. - HAL in "2001" - YouTube [01:26] Ariadne http://distfiles.dereferenced.org/gov.uscourts.cand.347725.33.0.pdf [01:26] Ariadne their response [01:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.40 [01:41] vZS1_2 There's an index of proceedings here: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16154366/elasticsearch-inc-v-floragunn-gmbh/ [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elasticsearch, Inc. v. Floragunn GmBH, 4:19-cv-05553 CourtListener.com [01:42] Ariadne yeah [01:42] Ariadne the rest of it isn't terribly interesting (at least, i don't see any reason to give PACER any more money right now) [01:43] Ariadne however, floragunn's elasticsearch security product predate's elastic's, which i know directly because i used to manage an ES cluster in 2013 using their ESP project (which later became search guard) ● Jan 20 [02:07] vZS1_2 Better get some shut-eye before the birds start chirping. Catcha yall later. [02:07] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [02:17] DaemonFC[m] https://www.npr.org/2021/01/19/958542403/union-pushing-keystone-xl-faces-racial-discrimination-suit [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Union Pushing Keystone XL Faces Racial Discrimination Suit : NPR [02:17] DaemonFC[m] Canada pushing the planet roaster pipeline. US walking away from it. 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Subquestion: why the name fez? Surely it does the opposite of zef and should be named as such." https://deathbyperl6.com/faq-zef-ecosystem/ #rakulang #perl [04:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deathbyperl6.com | faq: zef ecosystem death by Perl 6 [04:12] techrights-bot "fez is a utility for interacting with the zef ecosystem. you can think of it as the opposite of zef. zef downloads distributions and installs them and fez uploads making them available to zef." https://deathbyperl6.com/fez-zef-a-raku-ecosystem-and-auth/ [04:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deathbyperl6.com | fez|zef - a raku ecosystem and auth death by Perl 6 [04:17] techrights-bot This is not a "Linux" issue, this is an unpatched software issue for software that's not even Linux but installed on top of GNU/Linux https://securitybrief.co.nz/story/check-point-uncovers-live-linux-attack-urges-users-to-take-action [04:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-securitybrief.co.nz | Check Point uncovers live Linux attack, urges users to take action [04:20] techrights-bot #WireGuard Is Now Available For #pfSense - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WireGuard-pfSense-Introduced #BSD #UNIX [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WireGuard Is Now Available For pfSense - Phoronix [04:22] techrights-bot "Welcome to the second developer interview following the introduction of the new Showcase page! This week, we've interviewed Monolith of Minds about their latest game Resolutiion." https://godotengine.org/article/godot-showcase-monolith-of-minds-resolutiion [04:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Godot Showcase - Resolutiion developer Monolith of Minds talks about their experience [04:24] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [04:26] techrights-bot "For me it's probably one of the most exciting open-world survival games (next to Valheim) supported on #GNU #Linux ." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/steampunk-survival-game-volcanoids-has-a-huge-combat-upgrade [04:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steampunk survival game Volcanoids has a huge combat upgrade | GamingOnLinux [04:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.70 [04:29] techrights-bot Compact i.MX8M Plus module ships with full Linux BSP and Starterkit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146656 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact i.MX8M Plus module ships with full Linux BSP and Starterkit | Tux Machines [04:33] techrights-bot #AstroSlide 5G slider phone specs and shipping date get finalized http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146482#comment-27861 #gnu #linux [04:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding Astro Slide 5G smartphone ships in June, has a physical keyboard, and promises Linux support | Tux Machines [04:35] techrights-bot Simple-Mail Qt library 2.3 released https://dantti.wordpress.com/2021/01/19/simple-mail-qt-library-2-3-released/ #qt #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware [04:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dantti.wordpress.com | Simple-Mail Qt library 2.3 released Dantti's Blog [04:37] techrights-bot #Snort 3 #freesw #IntrusionPrevention System Released with Major New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146655 #GNU #Linux [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snort 3 Open-Source Intrusion Prevention System Released with Major New Features | Tux Machines [04:39] techrights-bot "Comparing Spinnaker vs. Jenkins can help enterprises make the right tooling decision for their CI/CD pipelines, but the proper lens might just be one that views them in tandem. Explore each tool's features for building and deploying applications, and why enterprises should use them together." https://searchitoperations.techtarget.com/tip/Evaluate-Spinnaker-vs-Jenkins-for-CI-CD [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchitoperations.techtarget.com | Evaluate Spinnaker vs. Jenkins for CI/CD [04:42] techrights-bot #socialcontrolmedia is dying http://coyote.works//posts/OOMRepeats20210119/ [04:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Consolidating Positions [04:43] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [04:46] techrights-bot Games: Bugs Under #Ubuntu , Godot Showcase (Resolutiion), and Volcanoids http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146658 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Bugs Under Ubuntu, Godot Showcase (Resolutiion), and Volcanoids | Tux Machines [04:48] techrights-bot "Im wondering whether there are any rights of publicity or false-light issues associated with using someones likeness in your patent application." #patent #patents #fb #facebook https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/patent-violate-publicity.html [04:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Can a Patent Violate Rights of Publicity? | Patently-O [04:49] techrights-bot "This error and more specifically its footer Powered by Tengine stirred up my interest and so I started looking for more information about this unknown to me web server." http://knowledgebasement.com/introduction-to-tengine-web-server/ [04:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | Introduction to Tengine Web Server | [04:53] techrights-bot GNOME 40 Will Now Handle XWayland On-Demand By Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [04:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 Will Now Handle XWayland On-Demand By Default | Tux Machines [04:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [04:56] techrights-bot Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in #eBPF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660 #Linux #Kernel [04:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines [04:59] techrights-bot Open Hardware: #Arduino , #EasyOS for the Pi. and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146661 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Arduino, EasyOS for the Pi. and More | Tux Machines ● Jan 20 [05:02] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146662 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [05:06] techrights-bot BSD: WireGuard in #pfSense and #PulseAudio in #FreeBSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146663 #UNIX #BSD [05:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BSD: WireGuard in pfSense and PulseAudio in FreeBSD | Tux Machines [05:07] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [05:08] techrights-bot "We showcase a tool that will change your Linux game. Plus our thoughts on the recent Btrfs FUD, a bunch of feedback, and a handy pick." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/143992/harder-butter-faster-stronger-linux-unplugged-389/ [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Harder Butter Faster Stronger | LINUX Unplugged 389 | Jupiter Broadcasting [05:24] *tr_guest|33835 (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has joined #techrights [05:24] *tr_guest|33835 has quit (Client Quit) [05:25] *akechi (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has joined #techrights [05:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.55 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.96 [05:41] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [05:43] psydroid Intel <3 Linux too, as we know now [05:48] schestowitz__ It loves it, but does not know how to convey and express that love :0D [05:49] schestowitz__ Intel loves control [05:49] schestowitz__ and the control and market power is in gnu/linux now [05:49] schestowitz__ so it has no choice but to fake "love" [05:49] schestowitz__ BTW, seems like 12 hours down the line we're been throttled again [05:49] schestowitz__ you spend 3 hours redoing the network [05:50] schestowitz__ testing the line all the way to the cabinet [05:50] schestowitz__ changing equipment etc. [05:50] schestowitz__ and at first it's fast again, then capped [05:50] schestowitz__ I am not 99% sure it's down to capping [05:50] schestowitz__ and they will never want to admit it [05:50] *akechi has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [05:55] Ariadne if its bursty and stuttery then its deprioritization [05:55] schestowitz__ that's what it is [05:55] schestowitz__ like a burst of traffic [05:55] schestowitz__ then steps for a few secs [05:55] Ariadne im thinking about starting a groklaw type blog [05:55] schestowitz__ then resumes [05:56] schestowitz__ Ariadne: groklaw is back onlone [05:56] schestowitz__ last week [05:56] schestowitz__ after 2.5 months [05:56] Ariadne yes but groklaw isnt covering cases *now* [05:56] Ariadne like elastic suing everyone and their dog [05:56] Ariadne :) [05:57] Techrights-sec Quite likely. It is also possible that they just move capacity around to the [05:57] Techrights-sec most recently "solved" case. [05:57] Techrights-sec Groklaw is still missing most of the comments. The [05:57] Techrights-sec static site version has only the folded threads. [05:58] schestowitz__ Ariadne: if you do such a blog, we can collaborate and help boost its presence [05:58] schestowitz__ I think people will come back to blogging [05:58] schestowitz__ http://coyote.works//posts/OOMRepeats20210119/ [05:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coyote.works | Consolidating Positions [05:58] Ariadne having been in both technical and policy roles i have a good understanding of all of the angles [05:58] schestowitz__ and RSS too, I hope [05:59] Ariadne techrights is good from an advocacy angle, but we lack analysis [05:59] Ariadne thats what groklaw really was good at ● Jan 20 [06:00] schestowitz__ it had access to people [06:00] Ariadne and i think we are going to need that more than ever as all the tech bubble pops and everyone starts suing each other [06:00] schestowitz__ not necessarily geeks but lawyers [06:00] schestowitz__ like Mark Webbink [06:01] Ariadne im not a lawyer obviously but i have a decent amount of paralegal experience [06:02] Ariadne elastic vs floragunn is a really concerning case [06:02] schestowitz__ yes, I noticed [06:02] schestowitz__ OSI commented also [06:02] schestowitz__ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27857 [06:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27857 ) [06:03] schestowitz__ we sued ES in the NHS [06:03] Ariadne elastic v floragunn is probably more concerning than elastic v aws [06:03] schestowitz__ a lot [06:03] schestowitz__ *used [06:03] schestowitz__ not sued [06:03] schestowitz__ BTW, as you can see above, TM has some ddos-like issues [06:03] Ariadne floragunn is an independent developer which primarily makes FOSS plugins for ES [06:03] schestowitz__ e.g. over 10k reqs per minute [06:03] schestowitz__ that has not happened for like a week [06:03] schestowitz__ started about an hour ago [06:04] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) [06:04] Ariadne elastic may have actually ripped off one of their plugins and then turned around and sued them about it [06:04] schestowitz__ BTW, re legal issue [06:04] schestowitz__ eng told us yesterday afternoon that changing ISPs would not help [06:04] schestowitz__ except maybe Virgin as ISP [06:04] schestowitz__ but... [06:04] schestowitz__ still, I suspect that BT just lacks the overall bandwidth [06:05] schestowitz__ we can joke that it's due to brexit or covid [06:05] schestowitz__ Ariadne: do you use ES? [06:05] Ariadne i dont know how openreach works [06:05] schestowitz__ as recently as yesterday I was doing some ES support for NHS [06:05] Ariadne i do not personally but some of my customers do [06:05] schestowitz__ Ariadne: it's just an openwashing veneer for BT [06:05] schestowitz__ A lot of places you phone turn out to be just BT [06:05] schestowitz__ with another name [06:06] Ariadne amazing [06:06] schestowitz__ ES is very good [06:06] schestowitz__ but.. [06:06] schestowitz__ not the whole licensing thing [06:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [06:06] Ariadne ES used to be 100% apache2 [06:06] Ariadne floragunn makes apache2 plugins for ES that compete with elastic proprietary plugins [06:06] Ariadne elastic suing floragunn to shut that down [06:07] Ariadne claiming they stole code from elastic [06:07] schestowitz__ There are no blogs left to do analysis of FreeSW issues, legal issues [06:07] schestowitz__ almost none [06:07] schestowitz__ except law firms marketing themselves [06:07] Ariadne even though ive been supporting installs with floragunn plugins since 2013 [06:07] Ariadne so clearly thats nonsense [06:08] Ariadne [00:07] There are no blogs left to do analysis of FreeSW issues, legal issues [06:08] Ariadne right exactly [06:08] Ariadne thats what i think i can contribute [06:09] schestowitz__ There used to be a few except groklaw [06:09] schestowitz__ like guest writers in IDG [06:09] schestowitz__ Andrew something, I forgot his name [06:09] schestowitz__ even Phipps occasionally, and he has mostly vanished [06:09] schestowitz__ a lot of media in general has died [06:09] schestowitz__ it's good that we started self-hosting more things [06:10] schestowitz__ seeing the general trend of censorious things [06:10] schestowitz__ I can say the "F" word in videos [06:10] schestowitz__ in youtube if you offend someone they file a complaint [06:10] schestowitz__ and then you can have the video taken down, issued a warning, deplotformed or 'demonetised' [06:10] schestowitz__ so people start self-censoring [06:10] schestowitz__ Google is in it for control and money, nothing else [06:12] Techrights-sec :q [06:12] Techrights-sec The threads at Groklaw ought to be expanded and only then saved as static. [06:12] Techrights-sec But it is probably way too late. [06:14] techrights-bot Seeing that the #BT situation is NOT improving after 16 days and about 20 hours DOWN THE DRAIN, I'm going to treat this as a "personal project" to expose what they do to their so-called 'customers'. I've paid them as much as car costs in the past decade. [06:25] schestowitz__ Ariadne: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2021/01/2021-01-14-mpa.md [06:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmca/2021-01-14-mpa.md at master github/dmca GitHub [06:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.66 [06:33] *akechi (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has joined #techrights [06:33] *akechi has quit (Client Quit) [06:37] *akechi (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has joined #techrights [06:39] akechi as a maintainer what do you get from switching from github [06:40] akechi You increase the friction of people to contribute [06:40] akechi now you have to deal with running you own servers if you self host [06:40] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:40] akechi And the risks aren't really that concerning [06:41] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [06:43] schestowitz__ akechi: you could say the same about many things [06:44] schestowitz__ what do you get out of having toilets at home? You could use public facilities instead. [06:44] schestowitz__ Why buy a server? You can rent space in clown computing [06:44] schestowitz__ Why buy a phone? there are public phone booths and they're being regularly maintained [06:44] schestowitz__ why waste money adding a kitchen to a home? [06:45] akechi I mean most people use aws or some other cloud [06:45] schestowitz__ You could dine out instead [06:45] schestowitz__ car... taxi [06:45] schestowitz__ many other examples [06:45] schestowitz__ akechi: yes, not a good practice [06:45] schestowitz__ ask those whom aws deplatformed [06:45] schestowitz__ or rips off [06:45] schestowitz__ clown is not cheaper [06:45] schestowitz__ and in github you get nothing for free [06:45] schestowitz__ the costs are just hidden [06:45] akechi I dare you to build your own storage with the same reliablity and scaling as S3 [06:46] akechi let me know how much it'll cost you [06:46] akechi With github the benefits outweight the costs [06:47] akechi you get exposure, which is critical of an open source project [06:47] schestowitz__ no [06:47] schestowitz__ this is a fallacy [06:47] schestowitz__ and microsoft fakes it [06:47] schestowitz__ as does social control media [06:47] schestowitz__ many dummy accounrs [06:47] schestowitz__ for illusion of scale [06:47] akechi I mean there's real people Isee [06:47] akechi filing issues [06:47] akechi making PRs [06:47] schestowitz__ the biggest freesw project, linux, does not need shithub [06:47] schestowitz__ other projects get that outside Microsoft [06:47] akechi pretty impressive of microsoft to hire people to try out my software [06:48] akechi and file bugs [06:48] akechi I thank them for their service [06:48] schestowitz__ that's like saying that because people "like" things in Twitter it's impractical not to be "on" Twitter [06:48] schestowitz__ now I am beginning to think you're just trolling [06:48] schestowitz__ Microsoft is attacking GitHub [06:48] schestowitz__ or its users [06:48] schestowitz__ it's not there to help [06:48] schestowitz__ it did not buy it to help [06:49] kingoffrance ^ [06:49] akechi every big project not using github has a foundation behind it [06:49] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [06:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [06:49] akechi more or less [06:49] schestowitz__ so use github [06:49] schestowitz__ and good luck [06:49] schestowitz__ come back when things upset you the way whatsapp does [06:49] akechi I mean yeah [06:49] akechi then you can swtich [06:50] schestowitz__ Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists who want it back with huge profits. And whatever Microsoft pays for it, they will want it back too. Who pays in the end? The users. FYI: Blender has its code on http://git.blender.org and developer services on http://developer.blender.org we already host our own services since 2002. About users paying: I dont [06:50] schestowitz__ mean the freemium model. I believe that in due time @github services slowly degrade to losing control and ownership of your work. [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.blender.org [06:50] schestowitz__ -blender chief [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | Home [06:50] schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/tonroosendaal/status/1003590417848455168 [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists - who wan https://t.co/RYfRCMBtob [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@tonroosendaal: Why was Blender not on @github? Simple: Github already accepted $350M (at least) from venture capitalists - who wan https://t.co/RYfRCMBtob [06:50] akechi blender foundation has tons a backers [06:50] akechi they can afford to do this stuff [06:50] akechi they have offices and a dozen full time staff [06:50] schestowitz__ they also use peertube [06:50] schestowitz__ youtube is a similar threat [06:51] schestowitz__ more gnu/linux vloggers try to move off it [06:51] akechi what do you think the genius plan microsoft would have for github [06:51] schestowitz__ you cannot grow is you depend on google managing your 'followers' or 'subscribers' etc [06:51] schestowitz__ you are at the mercy is a FOR-PROFIT entity [06:51] akechi the reason it was bought was to create a funnel for cloud [06:51] schestowitz__ akechi: read the above [06:52] schestowitz__ you clearly have not studied why Microsoft bought shithub [06:52] akechi If they lose users the that destorys the value [06:52] schestowitz__ it's not altruism [06:52] akechi of course not [06:52] schestowitz__ and saying it's "Free" is like saying "FB is FREE!" [06:52] schestowitz__ or "service" [06:52] schestowitz__ they're all disservices [06:52] schestowitz__ there's no "cloud" [06:52] schestowitz__ you mean server hosting [06:52] schestowitz__ and you begin to answer your own question [06:53] schestowitz__ they leverage these things to upsell and push proprietary software [06:53] schestowitz__ to developers and users [06:53] schestowitz__ those are overpriced [06:53] schestowitz__ and they will turn up the heat [06:53] schestowitz__ anyway [06:53] schestowitz__ bbl [06:53] schestowitz__ this debate is not useful [06:53] schestowitz__ read the link I gave above [06:53] akechi yeah i read it [06:53] akechi it's not very informative [06:54] akechi I don't expect my free samples at costco to have dog shit in them [06:54] schestowitz__ false analogy [06:54] akechi Because I know they want ensure I actually buy the product [06:55] schestowitz__ shithub is immaterial [06:55] schestowitz__ it's not a physical product [06:55] akechi what does that mean [06:55] schestowitz__ it's leverage [06:55] akechi what [06:55] schestowitz__ and a digital trap [06:55] akechi buddy you should up what software is [06:55] akechi look up* [06:55] schestowitz__ github is not software [06:55] schestowitz__ you don't install it [06:55] akechi but like how's it a trap [06:55] schestowitz__ you can't change it [06:56] akechi What would be the master plan [06:56] schestowitz__ it's a site [06:56] akechi explain it to me [06:56] akechi in detail [06:56] schestowitz__ and FB is not software either [06:56] schestowitz__ anyway [06:56] schestowitz__ bbl [06:56] schestowitz__ this is a waste of time tbh ● Jan 20 [07:04] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146664 [07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:05] akechi anyways as a final challenge I recommend you build your own message broker, storage, l7 load balance, and autoscaling set of servers [07:05] akechi with 5 9s uptimes [07:05] akechi in a month [07:05] akechi and see how that turns out [07:06] akechi you may find that people using aws and gcp for a reason [07:10] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146665 [07:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:14] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [07:15] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146666 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [07:17] techrights-bot Devices: #Watchy , #RaspberryPi , and #Linksys http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146667 #GNU #Linux [07:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Watchy, Raspberry Pi, and Linksys | Tux Machines [07:18] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146668 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [07:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [07:19] akechi so do you read like 1000 blog posts a day [07:19] techrights-bot January 20th, 2017 http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Newcastle [07:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Newcastle [07:20] *akechi has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [07:24] techrights-bot Links 20/1/2021: #WireGuard for #pfSense and New US President http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/wireguard-for-pfsense/ [07:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/1/2021: WireGuard for pfSense and New US President | Techrights [07:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.03 [07:29] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/irc-log-190121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [07:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 | Techrights [07:36] schestowitz__ [07:20] <-- akechi (490bb546@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.11.181.70) has left this server (Quit: Connection closed). [07:36] schestowitz__ he got bored [07:36] schestowitz__ didn't even realise he or she was using a web portal [07:36] schestowitz__ so likely a recipe for trolling [07:36] schestowitz__ and time-wasting [07:42] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [07:43] psydroid IP from Washington [07:43] schestowitz__ some pro-Microsoft troll [07:43] schestowitz__ maybe even employee [07:43] schestowitz__ anyway, didn't realise until after s/he'd left [07:44] schestowitz__ could waste a lot less time otherwise [07:44] psydroid I just read the conversation and realised it from the very beginning [07:44] psydroid they don't like what's happening to them now [07:46] schestowitz__ yes, I suppose so [07:46] schestowitz__ anyway, more github censorship [07:47] schestowitz__ not sure it merits a post [07:47] schestowitz__ as it's becoming the 'new normal' [07:47] schestowitz__ MAFIAA owns shithub [07:47] schestowitz__ and removes any project that /CAN/ be used for infringement [07:47] schestowitz__ a [07:47] schestowitz__ freesw purge [07:48] schestowitz__ Microsoft's response is, "LOL, go for it!" [07:48] schestowitz__ and then it issues lousy blog posts saying it stands for developers [07:48] schestowitz__ anyway, I hope they bleed users [07:51] techrights-bot New #malware from #google ... now version 88 https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2021/01/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_19.html #chrome [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromereleases.googleblog.com | Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop [07:52] psydroid no users, no money [07:52] psydroid c-73-11-181-70.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [07:52] techrights-bot #qt : we don't care about #freesw anymore https://www.qt.io/blog/problem-with-open-source-downloads only #ProprietarySoftware can be downloaded now [07:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Problem with Open-source Downloads [07:52] psydroid I can see a few more occurrences in the logs searching on google [07:53] psydroid so MS is keeping a watch on what's going on here [07:53] schestowitz__ not surprising [07:53] psydroid it's not just google [07:53] schestowitz__ anyway, let them [07:53] schestowitz__ but let's not waste time on such trolls [07:53] psydroid identify and ignore [07:53] schestowitz__ [06:47] pretty impressive of microsoft to hire people to try out my software [07:53] schestowitz__ That's what an employee would say [07:55] psydroid I make sure to fork every project I want to do something with and take it out of Shithub [07:56] psydroid if enough people did this, there wouldn't be much left on it after a while [07:57] techrights-bot #VirtualBox 6.1.18 Released with Full Support for #Linux Kernel 5.10 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146669 #freesw #oracle (yes, that one) [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VirtualBox 6.1.18 Released with Full Support for Linux Kernel 5.10 LTS | Tux Machines [07:58] schestowitz__ psydroid: interesting idea [07:58] schestowitz__ you could export and fork every shithub project [07:58] schestowitz__ putting it elsewere [07:58] schestowitz__ *where [07:58] schestowitz__ and find a way to take developers there [07:58] schestowitz__ it's legal [07:59] schestowitz__ and original devs might not be happy, but it makes a point ● Jan 20 [08:01] psydroid yes, indeed [08:03] schestowitz__ I wonder what they can try next [08:03] schestowitz__ mjg59 is here [08:03] schestowitz__ looking for dirt [08:03] schestowitz__ and doing Microsoft/GAFAM apologism [08:03] schestowitz__ they already tried pushing my boss to fire me [08:03] schestowitz__ they also bribed him [08:03] schestowitz__ didn't work [08:04] psydroid that's why I'm eagerly awaiting the FSF decentralised repository software, we could do this in large numbers and essentially take over those projects by merely forking them [08:05] schestowitz__ is it decentralised? [08:05] schestowitz__ I thought fsf was working on its gitlab instance or deriv [08:06] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:09] psydroid if it isn't decentralised, that's a bit of a shame [08:09] psydroid because I think it should be [08:09] schestowitz__ there's this thing called git [08:09] schestowitz__ which is sort of decentralised [08:09] schestowitz__ with email [08:10] schestowitz__ the p2p git efforts, I heard aren't exactly reliable and stable [08:10] psydroid yes, so I have been thinking that "issues" could be checked into git as well [08:11] psydroid a git code repository with a companion issues repository [08:12] schestowitz__ those are separate things [08:12] schestowitz__ not everything needs to be a wiki or git repo [08:12] schestowitz__ ticketing systems are more suitable [08:12] schestowitz__ you would not use a wiki or git commit to track a complaint [08:14] psydroid it would be optional [08:14] psydroid I would prefer a decentralised ticketing system [08:23] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:28] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.80 [08:40] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [08:41] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [08:57] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 20 [09:05] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:09] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:10] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:26] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.53 [09:35] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:52] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[10:17] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.10.9, 5.4.91, and 4.19.169 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146670 #kernel #linux [10:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.9, 5.4.91, and 4.19.169 | Tux Machines [10:18] techrights-bot Starting Element Messenger Web, Desktop and Phone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146671 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Starting Element Messenger Web, Desktop and Phone | Tux Machines [10:22] techrights-bot Help safeguard your Linux #server from attack with this REST API http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146673 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Help safeguard your Linux server from attack with this REST API | Tux Machines [10:23] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146674 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [10:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.78 ● Jan 20 [11:02] -NickServ-acer-box______!~acer-box@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:a59b:9069:768a:e3bf has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [11:02] *acer-box______ (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [11:03] *acer-box____ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:08] techrights-bot You'd think that after paying #BT more than 4,000 pounds in a single decade they'd not disconnect you a dozen times in two weeks (all computers), throttle your connection etc. Yesterday I wasted 3 hours rebuilding everything. And it's still faulty at their end. [11:18] *inky has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:19] *inky (~inky@141.136.78.143) has joined #techrights [11:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.95 [11:50] *kingoffrance has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:53] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890::9667) has joined #techrights [11:59] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 20 [12:13] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:15] *inky (~norayr@141.136.78.143) has joined #techrights [12:18] techrights-bot Our 16-day #BT ordeal has already wasted DAYS worth of work. Just now... I've had to wait half an hour on the line... merely to request a callback... when I've not received yet. I think they throttle people very badly after #brexitShambles [12:20] vZS1_2 #strongandstable [12:20] techrights-bot #BT has not convinced me that what I wrote in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/ and http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/ is not correct. They escalated the issue, but they're not resolving it. They just try to waste time, causing customer fatigue. [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive British Telecom Cannot Blame Coronavirus For Its Awful Customer Care and Various Face-Saving Lies Disguised as Support [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BT [12:22] techrights-bot As I don't wish to write any more blog posts about #BT (I'd rather do articles and videos about important leaks #techrights has received), I'll just post the occasional factual rants in #socialcontrolmedia and keep a tally of the damage caused/lost time/lost work [12:24] techrights-bot BT stats for 2021: 2 days of functional connection, 17 days of dysfunctional connection (nothing changed at our end). Massive throttling (like 5-fold decrease) started a day or two before lockdowns, they're disconnected all our machines more than a dozen times. [12:25] techrights-bot BT stats for 2021: 2 visits from #openreach engineers, both confirming there's nothing wrong with the line itself. Router (or hub) changed, it wasn't the culprit at all (as I insisted all along). Line fine, hub fine, the issue is at BT's side for sure. [12:26] techrights-bot #BT stats for 2021: more than 5 hours on the telephone, about a dozen different people (mostly managers). Refusing about 5 times to answer a simple question about capacity issues and throttling. Common theme/saying: "there's nothing we can do..." [12:27] techrights-bot #BT stats for 2021: on at LEAST 3 occasions promises of a callback were not fulfilled. In some cases, to make matters worse, those broken promises were from high-level managers. It seems like they have no real resolution, tried to close the ticket (complaint) 3 times, only to reopen it later. They aim for targets/quotas. [12:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.70 [12:29] techrights-bot #BT would be wise not to turn customers into determined foes, which is basically what's happening at the moment. One technical person with grievances and spare time (afforded partly by lockdowns) can severely hurt their reputation. Based on the facts alone. [12:33] vZS1_2 Might we worth asking a neighbour for Wifi access just to upload the videos. [12:34] schestowitz__ our nice neighbour left [12:34] schestowitz__ the other ones are not nice [12:34] schestowitz__ or rather, we were warned not to interact with them [12:35] schestowitz__ the less interaction, the better as they're grumpy [12:35] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: now I rush the videos again, which I don't want to do [12:35] schestowitz__ and voip does not work at all [12:35] schestowitz__ you pay BT 4-5 grand in 10 years [12:36] schestowitz__ and they cannot sustain service for something like voip... on 2021 [12:37] vZS1_2 Work with what you have. Just cut down on the size of each post, data wise. [12:37] vZS1_2 If there's anything particularly important, just stick to images and text. [12:37] schestowitz__ That's what I do [12:37] schestowitz__ BT is to me like a "project" [12:37] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [12:37] schestowitz__ I was there before, 6 years ago... [12:38] vZS1_2 And for the most urgent stuff, plaintext still works. [12:38] schestowitz__ I am 'thankful' in a sense... that I have a connection at all [12:38] schestowitz__ if we had none (altogether), it would be chaotic, for the job and other things [12:40] vZS1_2 How's the download rate atm? [12:48] schestowitz__ enough for coarser videos [12:49] schestowitz__ I sometimes wonder... [12:49] schestowitz__ how many different IP addresses connect to IPFS? [12:49] schestowitz__ or, put another way, how many concurrent connections? [12:49] schestowitz__ (please note I do not blame ipfs and it's unlikely the culprit as 1) it ran ok for months 2) sometimes for several hours all is well) [12:50] vZS1_2 `$ ipfs swarm peers | wc -l` [12:50] schestowitz__ I noticed that in the hub's port forwarding rules there were something added to the pi which I never added myself [12:50] schestowitz__ ipfs swarm peers | wc -l [12:50] schestowitz__ 865 [12:51] vZS1_2 It fluctuates frequently [12:51] schestowitz__ how would you interpret that? number of peers? [12:51] vZS1_2 yeah [12:51] schestowitz__ could that slow down/harm up/down capacities [12:51] schestowitz__ ? [12:51] schestowitz__ like I said, it was not an issue until weeks ago [12:52] vZS1_2 Not really, unless you have very low bandwidth to begin with. We're talking just a few bytes being exchanged per peer. [12:52] vZS1_2 And peers drop in and out all the time [12:52] schestowitz__ seems like 1gb up per day [12:52] schestowitz__ 2 down [12:52] schestowitz__ that's not much compared to something like HD over DRM crap [12:53] vZS1_2 Yep. It's tiny. [12:53] schestowitz__ or uploading of some youtube videoss [12:53] schestowitz__ it's not hard to do 30GB per day down [12:53] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [12:53] vZS1_2 If you watch a few YouTube videos in 1080p, you're already downloading a quite a few GB. [12:53] schestowitz__ and number of peers should not impact it [12:53] schestowitz__ could it be the number of peers? [12:53] schestowitz__ Are all those LIVE connections? [12:53] vZS1_2 Not that I've noticed [12:53] schestowitz__ live but idle? [12:54] vZS1_2 I haven't looked into the details but I think they get kicked for being idle [12:54] schestowitz__ another datapoint: [12:54] schestowitz__ yesterday, like last time the engineer was here [12:54] schestowitz__ the router was power-cycled [12:55] schestowitz__ after that ipfs resumed straight away [12:55] schestowitz__ yet the connection worked fine for about half a day [12:55] schestowitz__ is it possible that number of peers grew over time to the point of suffocating the line? [12:55] vZS1_2 Nah, that won't happen. There's a limit on peers, by default. [12:55] schestowitz__ or, should I temporarily put ipfs daemon down to see what happens? [12:56] schestowitz__ or no point trying? [12:56] schestowitz__ maybe some sessions are 'racing' for the upstream pipe [12:56] vZS1_2 There's an upper bound for peers set in ~/.ipfs/config [12:57] vZS1_2 Under Swarm.ConnMgr.HighWater [12:57] schestowitz__ "LowWater": 600, [12:57] schestowitz__ "HighWater": 900, [12:57] vZS1_2 Yeah. Same as mine. That's the default [12:57] schestowitz__ yeah, you beat me to it [12:57] schestowitz__ let me try to reset the service [12:57] schestowitz__ see what happens... [12:58] schestowitz__ hmm.. [12:58] schestowitz__ you know what? [12:58] schestowitz__ now my uploads seem faster [12:58] schestowitz__ a lot faster [12:59] schestowitz__ so maybe this was the culprit all along [12:59] vZS1_2 Like I said, it depends on how much bandwidth you have to begin with. [12:59] schestowitz__ maybe I should lower the limits? [12:59] schestowitz__ what should I set it to instead? [12:59] vZS1_2 I wouldn't go lower than 500 for High ● Jan 20 [13:00] schestowitz__ yes, connection a lot faster now [13:00] schestowitz__ let's try 500 [13:00] vZS1_2 You'll need to restart the daemon, I think. [13:00] vZS1_2 After changing the config [13:00] schestowitz__ yeah [13:00] schestowitz__ btw, is killall the way to do it? [13:00] schestowitz__ The way it starts is inelegant [13:00] vZS1_2 simple kill suffices [13:01] schestowitz__ so maybe I can lower it and maybe stop it while you serve copies if there are uploads [13:01] vZS1_2 Yeah. I was going to suggest the same [13:01] vZS1_2 I seed a lot of torrents and have IPFS on 24/7 [13:01] schestowitz__ wife and I: [13:01] schestowitz__ (right now) [13:01] schestowitz__ they probably lowered the capacity [13:01] schestowitz__ as bw remained the same [13:01] schestowitz__ so in January they capped it [13:01] schestowitz__ last month bw was the same [13:02] schestowitz__ brb, will reconfigure [13:02] vZS1_2 Some days I upload hundreds of GB of data. lol [13:03] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XXII: Bubbles and Buzzwords, No Substance at Intels Internet of Things (IoT) Group (IOTG) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/intel-iot-edge-iotg/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [13:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXII: Bubbles and Buzzwords, No Substance at Intels Internet of Things (IoT) Group (IOTG) | Techrights [13:03] schestowitz__ she keeps saying... [13:03] schestowitz__ all those conferences and stuff [13:03] schestowitz__ so it's BT that changed [13:03] schestowitz__ now... [13:04] schestowitz__ assuming it's the 'culrit' [13:04] schestowitz__ should I still chase BT to bring back old capacity? [13:05] schestowitz__ restarted ipfs [13:05] schestowitz__ observation: [13:05] schestowitz__ number of peers grows quickly [13:05] schestowitz__ 100 within less than a minute [13:05] schestowitz__ so that might not explain why it can take a day or half a day to slow down the whole connection [13:05] schestowitz__ now 300 peers [13:06] schestowitz__ I set limit to 500 [13:06] schestowitz__ in/out rates about the same [13:06] vZS1_2 shouldn't make too much difference. Most peers are just requesting CIDs [13:07] schestowitz__ how accurate are those stats?/ [13:07] schestowitz__ I mean, can you reliably say those are the in/out totals? [13:07] schestowitz__ just so I can confront BT over it... [13:07] vZS1_2 Yeah. I would trust the logging. [13:07] schestowitz__ now 514 peers [13:07] schestowitz__ so it jumped back up very fast [13:07] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:08] schestowitz__ OK, so vZS1_2, pursue BT further? [13:08] vZS1_2 It goes over the max every now and then. But it will go down after the daemon "checks" again [13:08] vZS1_2 Yeah. You still shouldn't have lower capacity [13:08] schestowitz__ mind you, during nighttime when I add CID by cron jobs the slowdowns have no meaningful effect on me [13:09] vZS1_2 Pinning on your node shouldn't really use much data at all [13:09] vZS1_2 So that sounds reasonable [13:09] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:09] vZS1_2 Especially since we're dealing with plaintext files [13:12] techrights-bot Linux at Home: Digital Music Production with Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146675 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux at Home: Digital Music Production with Linux | Tux Machines [13:13] schestowitz__ oh, one more POINT :-) [13:13] schestowitz__ in the evenings it used to get a lot faster [13:13] schestowitz__ and ipfs still ran as usual [13:13] schestowitz__ the graphs here in irc show ipfs activity was largely the same [13:13] schestowitz__ so something in the ISP/pipe changed [13:13] schestowitz__ i.e. BT [13:14] techrights-bot The video above is continuation of the previous part about a document full of superficial buzzwords (not technical jargon anywhere), in effect recommending to managers that they blindly follow trends and cargo cults (such as #ClownComputing ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/intel-iot-edge-iotg/ [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXII: Bubbles and Buzzwords, No Substance at Intels Internet of Things (IoT) Group (IOTG) | Techrights [13:17] techrights-bot Referring to #patent litigation by #patentTrolls as "Crown Jewels" (to lawsuits fanatics and profiteers maybe) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/the-crown-jewels-of-uk-patent-cases/ JUVE is hilarious http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | The Crown Jewels of UK patent cases - JUVE Patent [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [13:18] techrights-bot #epi #fakepatents https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/pinsent-masons-and-ms-digitalprint-win-invalidity-action-on-sealing-technology/ these people don't mind the EPO issuing lots of garbage patents if they profit from billing to toss them out, too [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Pinsent Masons and MS Digitalprint win invalidity action on sealing technology - JUVE Patent [13:19] schestowitz__ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611100558557#c3490417049742011138 [13:19] schestowitz__ " [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [13:19] schestowitz__ Attentive Observer) [13:19] schestowitz__ Nothing is inexorable at the EPO but the will of its head. But heads come and go, and before coming to such far reaching changes at the EPO, a Diplomatic Conference or at least a Conference of ministers of the Contracting States responsible for patent matters should be called, cf. Art 4a EPC. [13:19] schestowitz__ The duty of the president is to urgently call such a conference as since the entry into force of the EPC 2000 in 2007, at least two conferences should have taken place and the next one should be in preparation. [13:19] schestowitz__ By the way Art 10(2,b) EPC provides that unless this Convention provides otherwise, he [the president] shall prescribe which acts are to be performed at the European Patent Office in Munich and its branch at The Hague respectively. I cannot see there that he has the power to dematerialise acts as fundamental in the patent procedure as OP. [13:19] schestowitz__ Art 10(2,a) might allow the president to take all necessary steps to ensure the functioning of the European Patent Office, including the adoption of internal administrative instructions and information to the public, but Art 10(2,a) has to be read in conjunction with Art 10(2,b). [13:19] schestowitz__ With examining and opposition divisions distributed all over the Contracting states, and OP being no more than virtual, as the staff not residing in Munich or The Hague but can be anywhere over Europe, the president does not seem to be up his duties! [13:19] schestowitz__ Who will inform the AC of this? [13:19] schestowitz__ What applies to the first instance applies as well to the boards, but I am sure that should necessity arise, the EBA could come up with another very convenient dynamic interpretation. [13:19] schestowitz__ " [13:21] techrights-bot "It is the attempt for representatives firms not located in Munich to get a piece of this cake! No more no less! See the CIPA paper." #CIPA #corruption #EPO #lobbying #EPC (being violated FOR PROFIT) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611097955253#c8447565069040293101 [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [13:24] vZS1_2 I accidentally deleted some gtags(1) files. Need to regenerate. GDI. [13:24] techrights-bot "The #CJEU has set a near impossible bar for meeting grounds for appeal in trademark cases, counsel say, who are split on the impact of the changes" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q69dz76jxnnp/the-impossible-task-cjeu-appeals-becoming-extinct [13:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | The impossible task: CJEU appeals becoming extinct | Managing Intellectual Property [13:27] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: aha [13:28] schestowitz__ well, I habitually back up that homedir to my laptop and then several external HDDs [13:28] schestowitz__ and all the stuff, inc. key binaries, is in the homedirs, so restoring service ought not be so hard [13:28] schestowitz__ I just hope more people will mirror our CIDs over time [13:28] schestowitz__ as I might suspend the service while I do heavy things like uploads of VOIP [13:28] schestowitz__ real-time tcp-ip [13:29] schestowitz__ bbl [13:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.96 [13:29] schestowitz__ going to record something [13:31] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [13:52] vZS1_2 I have to generate new gtags(1) files for global(1) every time I update some repositories (for the latest commit). [13:52] vZS1_2 I just wiped a new one by accident. [13:53] vZS1_2 I don't bother backing up because they only take a few minutes to generate. [13:53] vZS1_2 Waste of space as the files generated are in the 100MB+ size range. [13:53] vZS1_2 Would rather just wait a few minutes to regenerate [13:54] vZS1_2 I try to only use 120 GB SSDs. The enforced austerity means that I think carefully about the space I use. [13:54] vZS1_2 usually have much less for embedded work anyway [13:59] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: killing ipfs definitely speeds up the uploads [13:59] schestowitz__ so I suppose I can suspend it each time I upload something [13:59] vZS1_2 Yeah, sounds reasonable. [13:59] schestowitz__ at least until BT clarifies why the change [13:59] schestowitz__ until then ● Jan 20 [14:00] schestowitz__ it definitely was NOT necessary before [14:00] schestowitz__ same traffic levels from ipfs [14:00] schestowitz__ this next video is 180mb in sizwe [14:00] vZS1_2 That's the nice things about P2P [14:00] vZS1_2 Load sharing is trivial [14:00] vZS1_2 s/things/thing/ [14:00] schestowitz__ yup [14:00] schestowitz__ thanks for sharing [14:00] vZS1_2 anytime [14:02] vZS1_2 And the nice thing is that we just worry about one daemon with a CLI [14:02] vZS1_2 Troubleshooting and automation is simple [14:02] vZS1_2 "Modern web" is far from it. [14:02] vZS1_2 We don't even worry about port forwarding with IPFS [14:03] vZS1_2 Think about it. How much effort goes into running an HTTP-based system. [14:03] vZS1_2 server, load-balancer, etc. [14:03] vZS1_2 It's creating artificial work [14:03] vZS1_2 "Fake work" [14:04] vZS1_2 Especially when all you want to do it share some files [14:04] vZS1_2 s/do it/do is/ [14:04] vZS1_2 P2P is way better for filesharing [14:04] vZS1_2 HTTP systems should stick to hypertext [14:07] vZS1_2 FTP is also perfectly adequate for a centralised model of filesharing. I still use it. [14:07] vZS1_2 But P2P, imo, has sharing built into design way better. [14:08] schestowitz__ I hope it catches on [14:08] vZS1_2 P2P is doing great. GIAFAM hate it. That's why they smear everything P2P. [14:08] vZS1_2 IPFS is only one form of P2P, after all. [14:09] vZS1_2 For alpha software, IPFS works pretty well. [14:10] vZS1_2 Hasn't crashed once for you [14:10] vZS1_2 BitTorrent is also doing great [14:10] vZS1_2 The goal is to get more people to use P2P. [14:10] vZS1_2 In all its forms [14:11] vZS1_2 Fight the stigma [14:12] vZS1_2 P2P is empowerment, in a way. People share their computing resources and data. This is the antithesis to the infrastructure monopoly that keeps GIAFAM alive. [14:13] vZS1_2 So individually, we might not be able to afford huge server farms, but collectively, we can still build great internet systems. [14:17] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [14:27] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/a6d825d18aaa2d1b.jpg [14:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.25 [14:48] MinceR (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/3cb65e09cdf5761f.mp4 [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Jan 20 [15:11] techrights-bot Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part V: How #FSF Secrecy Ended Up Insulting People, Alienating Trans Developers http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/fsf-secrecy/ #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part V: How FSF Secrecy Ended Up Insulting People, Alienating Trans Developers | Techrights [15:11] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2012215 [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5114884) [15:11] schestowitz__ vZS1: this is reproducible: [15:12] schestowitz__ I can now say with confidence that disabling ipfs speeds up the connection, esp. upstream (which was always more limited on ADSL/copper), but still no explanation as to why BT started capping it like that at the start of the year (days later) [15:12] *Digit has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:12] Techrights-sec How much of the bandwidth was IPFS? I imagine not a lot. [15:12] schestowitz__ per say, 1gb up, 2gb down [15:13] schestowitz__ per day, 1gb up, 2gb down [15:13] Techrights-sec That's really very little. So the capping may be retaliatory? [15:13] schestowitz__ that's what I was thinking. Applied all of a sudden, to a protocol with encryption and swarms. [15:14] Techrights-sec With bursty throttling, perhaps they are searching for end points. [15:15] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:15] schestowitz__ I can only make guessed. The manager was supposed to phone me... I'm still waiting and will inquire about this as there's no excuse for such a change (no capping like this before) [15:17] vZS1_2 I doubt they are deliberately scanning for particular protocols. [15:17] techrights-bot I am starting to wonder if #BT #throttling on our connection (or capping, or periodic suspension of packets) has more to do with #surveillance (given times of day) than anything BT level. Not BT but GCHQ? [15:19] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: main query for them is, as before, why the sudden change? [15:19] schestowitz__ If anything, we've used LESS in the past fortnight [15:19] vZS1_2 I suspect it's just lack of capacity [15:19] schestowitz__ less videos, less sockets [15:19] vZS1_2 "load shedding" [15:19] schestowitz__ to try to 'help' the connection [15:19] schestowitz__ I've just re-enabled ipfs [15:19] schestowitz__ as the upload is finished [15:20] vZS1_2 It's done with the power grid in some countries [15:20] schestowitz__ but now my connection will sort of suck [15:20] schestowitz__ they need to phone me (management) [15:20] vZS1_2 They just cut the power otherwise there isn't enough to go around [15:20] schestowitz__ yes, there's one called GPL [15:20] vZS1_2 And it happens on a schedule [15:20] schestowitz__ in Africa [15:20] schestowitz__ I keep seeing it in news searches [15:20] schestowitz__ lots of outages there [15:20] schestowitz__ things we take for granted [15:20] vZS1_2 Yep. ISPs do it all the time [15:20] schestowitz__ the "first world problem" is, not lack of Internet but capped [15:21] vZS1_2 They just don't publicise. [15:21] schestowitz__ and it seems we might be on their "list" [15:21] vZS1_2 Customer service say "technical issues" [15:21] schestowitz__ "nothing we can do" [15:21] schestowitz__ they said it many times [15:21] schestowitz__ and later sent out two engs [15:21] schestowitz__ and a new "Smart" Hub [15:21] schestowitz__ which solved nothing at all [15:21] schestowitz__ just gave me hours of work (setup) [15:22] vZS1_2 BT are known to have vastly oversold wrt their capacity [15:22] schestowitz__ I will confront and report [15:22] schestowitz__ btw, did you say ofcon will grow fangs only in March? [15:22] schestowitz__ The page is dated March 2020, not 2021 [15:22] vZS1_2 Was it? [15:22] vZS1_2 Guess I misread [15:23] vZS1_2 It does indeed say March 2020 [15:24] vZS1_2 "From 20 March 2020, if you cant get a download speed of 10 Mbit/s and an upload speed of 1 Mbit/s, you can request an upgraded connection. " [15:24] schestowitz__ So what to tell them...? [15:25] vZS1_2 Are you getting your 1Mb/s upload? [15:25] vZS1_2 and 10Mb/s download? [15:26] schestowitz__ No. [15:26] schestowitz__ 800 something up [15:26] schestowitz__ BUT... [15:26] schestowitz__ with ipfs turned on nowhere near that [15:26] schestowitz__ maybe less than a tenth that [15:26] schestowitz__ so something clearly is going on [15:27] schestowitz__ either by all the hubs, which isn't likely, or BT, which is more likely because all that changed 2.5 weeks ago [15:27] schestowitz__ like they 'flipped a switch' [15:28] vZS1_2 Best way to monitor this is to actually analyse the bandwidth usage of your devices [15:28] vZS1_2 ipfs stats bw [15:28] vZS1_2 and every other thing you have running [15:28] schestowitz__ for the pi I assume it's just stale/inactive ssh sessions [15:29] schestowitz__ +ipfs [15:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.75 [15:29] schestowitz__ and you say the totals are in there, in the cli [15:29] schestowitz__ so we're talking about total of no more than 3.5gb per day (up+down combined) [15:29] schestowitz__ or 100gb a month [15:29] vZS1_2 I mean more the actual Mb/s across all your active programs [15:30] vZS1_2 Well, it would be Kb/s, at your current state [15:30] schestowitz__ irc clients don't add up to much [15:30] schestowitz__ either way, in 2021 the issue would be DRMflix [15:30] schestowitz__ not stuff like SSH sessions and IRC [15:30] schestowitz__ those are live connections, but very low b/w [15:31] vZS1_2 Yeah [15:31] schestowitz__ I don't even browse the Web much [15:31] schestowitz__ I read the news as rss or in a text editor, usually kate [15:31] vZS1_2 My ipfs daemon is at 9.8kB/s in and 5.5kB/s out. [15:31] vZS1_2 That's barely anything [15:32] schestowitz__ it's about twice that at my end [15:32] schestowitz__ you can see from the irc bit [15:32] schestowitz__ *Bot [15:32] schestowitz__ anyway, I'll do another inteleaks part now [15:32] schestowitz__ knowing I can speed up the uploads [15:33] schestowitz__ rianne says... [15:33] schestowitz__ Monday morning [15:33] schestowitz__ when it started [15:33] schestowitz__ 4th of January I think [15:34] schestowitz__ the lockdown was announced [15:34] schestowitz__ after the weekend [15:34] schestowitz__ new year, new brexit, new lockdown [15:34] schestowitz__ and I suppose BT did something [15:34] schestowitz__ around 8am Monday [15:34] CrystalMath well [15:34] CrystalMath the lockdown preduces a HUGE stress on the ISPs [15:34] schestowitz__ "they throttled it because they cannot meet the demend" [15:34] schestowitz__ "student connections" [15:34] CrystalMath the stress is yuge so they throttled it bigly [15:35] schestowitz__ "there's office now... that's more traffic.. . conferences... BT is going to explode... so they throttle 'small house'... I don't know how they select" [15:35] schestowitz__ (quoting rianne) [15:35] schestowitz__ we are a "low priority" [15:35] schestowitz__ unless I told them I'm depositing an ofcom complaint [15:35] CrystalMath so much for net neutrality [15:35] schestowitz__ then it was immediately escalated to "Executive Team" [15:35] schestowitz__ and they phones ME, not me chasing THEM [15:36] vZS1_2 Just go ahead and file the Ofcom complaint, if it keeps going on. [15:36] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: well, we need to expose all this [15:36] schestowitz__ and report [15:36] vZS1_2 They have to meet the minimal contractual agreement, or you get a refund. [15:36] schestowitz__ I will keep asking them for admissions [15:36] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I got a refund only for this month [15:36] schestowitz__ and a new hub [15:36] schestowitz__ which i did not ask for [15:37] schestowitz__ I opposed it, saying it would be total waste of time [15:37] DaemonFC[m] An hour and a half until Trump isn't the president anymore. [15:37] schestowitz__ yay [15:38] schestowitz__ I mentioned this in the latest post [15:38] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: let's lobby and push on this issue [15:38] CrystalMath i miss Trump, specifically his first year [15:38] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I will bring that overt to TR soon [15:38] schestowitz__ we can do a good series, I have plenty of notes and matrial [15:38] schestowitz__ something about lockdowns and IPS obligations [15:38] schestowitz__ *ISP [15:39] vZS1_2 Sounds like a plan [15:39] schestowitz__ thanks [15:40] schestowitz__ "we have the banks... the gov... Paul Scholes... David Beckham... and a bunch of 'chavs' in Manc" [15:40] schestowitz__ "who to slow down?" [15:40] CrystalMath no matter how much i try to make Biden funny, it doesn't really work [15:40] schestowitz__ and so we end up with class system for packets [15:40] schestowitz__ and they still charge people.... for less [15:40] CrystalMath he has some of that Reagan-like dementia charm [15:41] schestowitz__ brb [15:41] CrystalMath send a text to the word united [15:42] CrystalMath idk, to me hate just can't be funny, and all the hate against white working class americans just makes me sad [15:43] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: useful to display number of peers (average swarm side) in the bot? [15:43] vZS1_2 Depends. Doesn't really make much sense, unless you know what they're doing. [15:44] CrystalMath Trump was fun because he was a populist, he appealed to the people [15:44] CrystalMath Biden just doesn't have that, he only appeals to large corporations [15:44] CrystalMath it's really sad [15:44] techrights-bot "Although inauguration day is not a nationwide federal holiday, it is a holiday for non-essential federal employees who work in the Washington DC Area." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/inauguration-day.html [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Inauguration Day | Patently-O [15:45] CrystalMath ofc populism has its downsides [15:48] techrights-bot CentOS is gonebut #RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:50] techrights-bot CentOS is gonebut #RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [15:51] techrights-bot Having just uploaded this introductory video, we delve into the backstory or the real reason the #FSF sank into somewhat of a crisis with the #trans community almost half a decade ago http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/fsf-secrecy/ #freesw #transparency [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers Part V: How FSF Secrecy Ended Up Insulting People, Alienating Trans Developers | Techrights ● Jan 20 [16:03] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.40 [16:43] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/aa787fa2f042acd9.jpg [16:47] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [16:48] techrights-bot Getting to know Kyeong Sang Kim, #RedHat general manager for Korea http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146677 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting to know Kyeong Sang Kim, Red Hat general manager for Korea | Tux Machines [16:50] techrights-bot #LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 Is Available For Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146678 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 Is Available For Testing | Tux Machines [16:51] techrights-bot A farewell to #SabayonLinux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146679 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Gentoo [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A farewell to Sabayon Linux | Tux Machines [16:51] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146680 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:52] techrights-bot Phoned #BT midday to request urgent callback. Had to wait for half an hour to do just that. And they never got back to me. Awful service, bad service too. False promises. [16:54] techrights-bot #Ubuntu Now Runs on Apple [sic] Silicon... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27862 [16:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines [16:56] techrights-bot #RedHat introduces free #RHEL for small production workloads http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27863 #ibm #monopoly [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines ● Jan 20 [17:20] techrights-bot "A string of pseudo-populist conservative movements have reverted to the same agenda of tax cuts and deregulation." https://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/the-not-so-strange-death-of-right-populism [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dissentmagazine.org | The Not-So-Strange Death of Right Populism | Dissent Magazine [17:20] MinceR that has yet to happen here [17:21] schestowitz__ populist [17:21] schestowitz__ someone here says Trump is populist [17:22] schestowitz__ very populist tax breaks for oligarchs [17:22] schestowitz__ populist attacks on USPS [17:22] schestowitz__ how very populist [17:25] MinceR that works in uhmerica [17:25] MinceR "the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" [17:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.51 [17:34] techrights-bot This is great. #BT has just phoned back, belatedly. I got a manager from the "Executive Team" to openly admit (albeit begrudgingly and hesitantly) that because many people now work from home they're overrun by requests. She now escalates to "wholesale" to review "caps" on our line. [17:34] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: ^^^^^ [17:34] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/529/ [17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [17:35] MinceR it only took BT a year to notice that people are working from home a lot more? [17:35] Techrights-sec Keep ratcheting up [17:35] schestowitz__ MinceR: exactly [17:36] MinceR then again, digi (aka RDS) apparently had issues with the same [17:36] MinceR sometimes it still slows down to a crawl [17:37] Techrights-sec They were probably betting they could get by indefinitely without expanding. [17:37] schestowitz__ It's a lot cheaper... until the public becomes aware, complains, and there's a little scandal about "strong and stable" Brexit Telecom [17:37] MinceR that's what humans believe in general [17:37] MinceR exponential expansion under finite resources [17:39] techrights-bot TIL: you can get #BT to admit it cannot cope with #COVID19 (lockdown) Net traffic levels. They're not expanding the infra. It's a lot cheaper... until the public becomes aware, complains, and there's a little scandal about "strong and stable" Brexit Telecom [17:40] techrights-bot In March 2020 (start of #covid19 lockdown in #uk nationwide) #ofcom set standards for #internet speeds. #bt has not been keeping up with/to standards and regulations. [17:41] schestowitz__ MinceR: hard to even make voip calls [17:41] schestowitz__ in 2021 [17:41] schestowitz__ virtually impossible if we run thw 'wrong thing [17:41] schestowitz__ like ipfs [17:50] techrights-bot "Perhaps though, the time is ripe to check out Godot Engine since it's free and open source." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/yoyo-games-developer-of-gamemaker-studio-sold-for-10m [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YoYo Games developer of GameMaker Studio sold for $10M (updated) | GamingOnLinux [17:52] MinceR there are plenty of free game engines [17:52] MinceR like cube, cube2 and its derivatives, various id engines and their derivatives (including darkplaces and daemon) [17:54] techrights-bot "In our Innards section, we talk about the first 24 hours with #LinuxMint 20.1" https://mintcast.org/2021/01/20/mintcast-352-5-one-night-with-ulyssa/ #gnu #linux [17:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | mintCast 352.5 One Night with Ulyssa mintCast ● Jan 20 [18:10] techrights-bot #InteLeaks Part XXIII: Intel Paying for Bogus Research Insights Which Merely Seek to Justify #Outsourcing to #Microsoft and Imposing Microsofts #ProprietarySoftware on #FreeSoftware Developers http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/killing-gitlab-for-microsoft/ [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXIII: Intel Paying for Bogus Research Insights Which Merely Seek to Justify Outsourcing to Microsoft and Imposing Microsofts Proprietary Software on Free Software Developers | Techrights [18:12] techrights-bot In 2021 we began publishing insider material from Intel, exposing some of the rot and the deception/distortion of public record. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks #intel #leaks #gnu #linux #deletegithub [18:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [18:14] techrights-bot Public Like Comment [18:26] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [18:28] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/531/ [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [18:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.86 [18:43] *Blukunfando has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:52] vZS1 Had a strong feeling it was "load shedding" by BT. [18:53] vZS1 Because that's far more plausible than the alternatives [18:54] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/XlH1yRi.mp4 [18:56] Ariadne well, there is virgin as an alternative, but cable isn't much better than dsl ● Jan 20 [19:02] vZS1 she leaked that the FSF, in the 2000s, rejected a transgender woman from getting a job there on the grounds that she is ugly, and would upset the rest of the employees (paraphrased). [19:02] vZS1 schestowitz__: too many quotes [19:03] vZS1 s/"she/she/ [19:04] vZS1 It would be interesting to know exactly how that decision got approval in the first place [19:05] vZS1 Do they have 12-year-olds making hiring decisions at the FSF? [19:16] DaemonFC[m] If the United States was many other countries in the world, Donald Trump wouldn't be swiftly thrown out of office for his assault on our constitutional form of government. [19:16] DaemonFC[m] He would have suspended the constitution, and rewritten it, and never left. [19:17] DaemonFC[m] 4 years is bad, but many countries get one really bad guy and they're finished. He never does leave. The entire country is corrupted by one man, forever. [19:18] DaemonFC[m] A bad president can do a lot of damage. He's powerful. But everything does come to an end. [19:19] DaemonFC[m] 4 years was intended to give the voters a chance to decide if they wanted to let the president cement their agenda. In the case of Trump, he didn't get the entire thing done. Much of it fell apart while he was still in office due to severe administrative incompetence and a willingness to not follow the basic legal framework for making regulations. [19:20] DaemonFC[m] Yet more of it will be undone over the next 4 years, including over a dozen major pieces of it today alone. [19:21] DaemonFC[m] President Biden has targeted over a dozen major visible Trump agenda items that will be terminated today to show that there's a new sheriff in town. Including that illegal "national emergency" that stole money from VA hospitals and stuff to build shoddy border fencing. [19:21] DaemonFC[m] It was called "Imperial behavior" because that's exactly what it was. [19:22] DaemonFC[m] Congress needs to pass immediate reforms that stop future presidents from behaving in this manner. I don't think that Joe Biden plans to thumb his nose at Congress and govern with fake national emergencies much anyway, so it may be reformed. [19:23] DaemonFC[m] Even with more Republicans, Congress wasn't happy at all about that "emergency". Both chambers passed disapproval legislation (which Trump vetoed). They had majorities to terminate it, but not veto-proof majorities. [19:24] DaemonFC[m] The whole thing shined a spotlight on how ridiculous the emergency law is. Illegal immigration drops to a 50 year low. "EMERGENCY EMERGENCY!!! STEAL MONEY FROM VETERANS' HOSPITALS!". [19:26] DaemonFC[m] I really do think new legislation is coming on this. Post-Watergate, Congress passed many laws to deal with the behavior that Richard Nixon displayed. I think there will be post-Trump legislation that increases the power of Congress. [19:26] DaemonFC[m] It's not as hard to pass those laws as you'd think in times like this, because both parties see it as a potential check on the other one. [19:27] DaemonFC[m] If there can be a national emergency on the border wall, there can be one on the climate, or healthcare, or anything else. Allowing the president to upend an entire system and legislate from the White House. [19:28] vZS1 Apart from the fact that sleepy Joe is a plutocrat [19:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.05 [19:33] vZS1 https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/biden-big-tech-antitrust-renata-hesse/ [19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Big Tech Critics Alarmed at Direction of Biden Antitrust Personnel [19:35] DaemonFC[m] "Sleepy Joe" didn't really stick. [19:36] vZS1 *shrug* [19:36] DaemonFC[m] Trump had a difficult time coming up with any sort of attacks that stuck, because no matter what he could have cooked up, Trump was dirtier and it would have brought up his own misconduct at the same time. [19:36] DaemonFC[m] With much more credible women (multiple) saying he sexually assaulted them. [19:37] vZS1 You can get away with it as long as you don't expose the surveillance and espionage state [19:38] vZS1 Pardoning war criminals helps too [19:41] vZS1 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-blackwater-pardons-iraq-shooting-b1778052.html [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Trump pardons Blackwater contractors jailed for massacring civilians in Iraq | The Independent [19:46] DaemonFC[m] He never pardoned Julian Assange though. [19:46] DaemonFC[m] Did he? [19:46] Ariadne no [19:48] DaemonFC[m] Nobody is going to. Sucks to be him. He was a Russian pawn to destabilize our country and all he gets is a life of trying to dodge arrest that will happen eventually. [19:50] DaemonFC[m] From trying to sneak out of the Ecuadorian embassy in some luggage to a British jail where he'll eventually be turned over. [19:50] DaemonFC[m] He's being held on remand and even if they do let him out (they won't) they're going to hold onto his passport. [19:51] DaemonFC[m] Fighting extradition just gives him more time in prison. [19:51] DaemonFC[m] The appeals court is going to overturn the trial judge. [19:52] DaemonFC[m] The ruling that he may attempt suicide in an American prison is legally ridiculous. [19:52] DaemonFC[m] Anyone may try to commit suicide in any prison. What are we going to do? Not send anyone to prison because of that? [19:54] DaemonFC[m] This is what you get in the UK too apparently. Judges making rulings up with no legal underpinnings. [19:54] vZS1 Clearly, exposing war crimes and evidence of destabilising of other countries is worse than massacring civilians. [19:55] DaemonFC[m] I doubt prison in the UK is so much better that a suicidal person wouldn't do it there. [19:56] DaemonFC[m] They'd just wait until they were in an American one. Oh, that judge is really clever.... [19:58] DaemonFC[m] I don't know why people are shocked that Epstein killed himself in prison. [19:59] DaemonFC[m] Girls he raped are still suing his estate. Absolutely no difference on the legal front vs. if he was still alive. [19:59] DaemonFC[m] You're poor and do that to a 13 year old, you're branded. You'll never work or have an apartment again even if they ever do let you out of prison. [19:59] DaemonFC[m] If you're rich, it's a matter of how much money makes it go away. It's civil law. ● Jan 20 [20:00] DaemonFC[m] They finally put him in prison almost two decades after everyone around him knew he should have been there. [20:01] DaemonFC[m] Even at that, he's a rarity among rich sex offenders in that it ever happened. [20:13] techrights-bot Intels preference for #Microsoft #monopoly (an imposed/top-down decision) was seemingly certified by so-called consultants and analysts from the outside rather than the inside, basically manufacturing a false perception of consent after managers had already made up their minds http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/killing-gitlab-for-microsoft/ [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXIII: Intel Paying for Bogus Research Insights Which Merely Seek to Justify Outsourcing to Microsoft and Imposing Microsofts Proprietary Software on Free Software Developers | Techrights [20:15] CrystalMath i'm really disappointed that Trump didn't pardon Assange [20:16] techrights-bot

Last week, I explained my thoughts on why the Parler takedown from AWS didn't bother me that much -- considering that there were many other cloud and webhosting solutions out there. Yet Parler has quickly discovered that many other providers aren't interested in hosting the company's cesspool of garbage content either. As I pointed out, at some point, some element of that has to be on Parler for attracting such an [20:16] techrights-bot He will be sleepy on antimonopoly https://theintercept.com/2021/01/18/biden-big-tech-antitrust-renata-hesse/ [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Big Tech Critics Alarmed at Direction of Biden Antitrust Personnel [20:20] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [20:20] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [20:22] schestowitz__ [19:02] schestowitz__: too many quotes [20:22] schestowitz__ Fixed [20:25] techrights-bot From private sector into a judge... :/ https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/uk-high-court-appoints-james-mellor-as-ip-specialist-judge/ [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | UK High Court appoints James Mellor as IP-specialist judge - JUVE Patent [20:26] techrights-bot #upc is an enemy of #democracy and #teamUPC is a bunch of seditious fanatics looking to profit from #patentTrolls and #litgation chaos http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/20/the-upc-and-democracy/ [20:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The UPC and Democracy - Kluwer Patent Blog [20:28] schestowitz__ All Hands on Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just #Patents , From All https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/01/20/all-hands-on-deck-ensuring-innovation-not-just-patents-from-all/ by Josh Landau of #ccia [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | All Hands on Deck: Ensuring Innovation, Not Just Patents, From All - Patent Progress [20:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.53 [20:29] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: These "techrights-bot" messages would do well as RSS items for TR. [20:30] techrights-bot Hugely corrupt #epo seems to be putting #litigation ahead of #science again... the Office got hijacked by a cabal of criminals who merely serve #patent maximalists https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210120.html [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO and CIPO make their PPH fast-track programme permanent [20:31] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: for something so short? [20:31] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: you can already get that as RSS [20:32] schestowitz__ https://joindiaspora.com/public/schestowitz.atom [20:32] vZS1_2 These are the kinds of things I expect TR to keep me up-to-date about. [20:32] vZS1_2 So being short doesn't matter. I can just look up further. [20:33] techrights-bot "Some clients may not be concerned about the fact that VICOs reduces the effectiveness of their representative's oral submissions to the EPO (and hence potentially reduces the persuasiveness of their oral arguments)" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611149975537#c4305224231689360185 [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat [20:33] vZS1_2 Thanks for the URL. [20:33] vZS1_2 Still recommend putting it into TR. Readers will have interest as it's OT. [20:33] vZS1_2 (On Topic) [20:34] techrights-bot There is no patent attorney who understands the invention, the literature, and the underlying scientific complexities better than the inventor. There is no patent attorney who knows the commercial situation better than the applicant. [20:34] vZS1_2 Perhaps as a separate feed though, to make sure TR's own pieces don't get mixed up. [20:34] vZS1_2 Otherwise you might end up losing people because of the sheer volume [20:35] techrights-bot Iancu Says Goodbye, Urges Commitment to American Innovation Renaissance [20:36] techrights-bot The New Humanitarian | Rethinking Humanitarianism podcast: Aids climate challenge https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/podcast/2021/1/20/rethinking-humanitarianism-climate-change #thenewhumanitarian [20:36] vZS1_2 Separate from the TR "originals" and TuxMachines. [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Rethinking Humanitarianism podcast: Aids climate challenge [20:37] vZS1_2 I just noticed you have TM posts in the diaspora feed as well. [20:37] techrights-bot "emerging issues that are likely to drive new humanitarian needs... This list is informed by our reporting from humanitarian hotspots around the globe more than 70 countries in 2020" https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/feature/2021/01/20/ten-humanitarian-crises-trends-to-watch [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Ten humanitarian crises and trends to watch in 2021 [20:40] *inky_ (~norayr@141.136.78.143) has joined #techrights [20:40] techrights-bot #iancu did not "resign" per se; he evacuated or he pressed the ejection button of his plane, knowing #biden (and team) would sack his arse because he was a #trump -installed mole for bad people and #litigation profiteers http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights [20:42] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [20:44] techrights-bot "For a company as big as Valve (and the likes of ZeniMax), they won't be losing any sleep over fines that for them will most likely be a drop in the ocean." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/valve-and-others-fined-by-the-european-commission-for-geo-blocking [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve and others fined by the European Commission for 'geo-blocking' | GamingOnLinux [20:46] techrights-bot "Plenty of communication breakdowns, shouting and laughing all bundled in together" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/play-the-charming-co-op-construction-game-unrailed-free-for-a-few-days-plus-big-sale [20:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play the charming co-op construction game Unrailed! free for a few days plus big sale | GamingOnLinux [20:50] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Trump didn't pardon any of those nuts from the 6th. [20:50] DaemonFC[m] Not even Insurrection Karen, the realtor from Texas who flew in on a private jet. [20:51] techrights-bot Games: GameMaker Studio, #Aveliana and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146681 #GNU #Linux #Games [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GameMaker Studio, Aveliana and More | Tux Machines [20:51] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: don't just tell me... :) [20:52] schestowitz__ [20:33] Thanks for the URL. [20:52] schestowitz__ np [20:52] schestowitz__ thanks for the suggestion [20:52] schestowitz__ making another RSS feed for it, locally hosted, would not offer anything not already in joindiapora, I think [20:52] schestowitz__ I just had a 2-hour nap, trying to catch up with news [20:53] schestowitz__ the videos take longer to make than I originally estimated, but I will improve the workflow over time. Right now I can make almost a video per post and storage is not an issue. I can imagine uploads would be capped uk-wide now, not only us [20:56] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [20:58] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 20 [21:00] vZS1_2 Sleepy Joe already got 1 big celebrity endoresement from George R. R. Martin. [21:00] vZS1_2 s/endoresement/endorsement/ [21:01] vZS1_2 https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2021/01/20/a-new-hope/ [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-georgerrmartin.com | A New Hope | Not a Blog [21:01] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146683 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:02] vZS1_2 "He said all the right things." [21:03] vZS1_2 Appointing big tech shill to a leading anti(trust/monopoly) post. [21:03] vZS1_2 It's okey guys. He said all the right things! [21:03] vZS1_2 Disappointed by GRRM. [21:03] MinceR maybe his expectations were low to begin with :> [21:04] psydroid his war-mongering words were all the right things? [21:04] psydroid in that case, yes, he did [21:05] vZS1_2 GRRM has been hard on Cheeto Hitler buy soft on Sleepy Joe. [21:05] vZS1_2 s/buy/but/ [21:05] DaemonFC[m] I think we should go back to castration for most sex offenders if they want out on parole. [21:06] DaemonFC[m] You let them out, they're still a pervert. They hurt more people. [21:06] vZS1_2 "But if anyone can solve them, I think it is Biden. He is experienced, intelligent, and above all compassionate." [21:06] techrights-bot Links 20/1/2021: #LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 and the #RHEL Contingency http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-contingency/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/1/2021: LibreOffice 7.1 RC2 and the RHEL Contingency | Techrights [21:07] vZS1_2 Compassionate, as long as you are commiting war crimes for his buddies. Expose any of it and you're a "high-tech terrorist". [21:07] schestowitz__ I think we can all agree that on ISSUES WE COVER (TR) Biden is the lesser evil (than Trump) [21:07] DaemonFC[m] It's great to hear the crowd shout Madam Vice-President. After Trump's administration was 86% men and 90% white. It didn't look like America at all. It was almost as white as a Klan meeting, and there were no important jobs that women or non-white men got. [21:07] schestowitz__ so today we sort of face lesser challenges [21:08] DaemonFC[m] Ben Carson spent four years at HUD specifically to do nothing for people who needed housing and give Trump a token black man to point at. [21:08] schestowitz__ In terms of antitrust, Biden is as troublesome http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [21:08] vZS1_2 "It was almost as white as a Klan meeting" that's because a lot of them are probably Klansmen/sympathisers [21:08] schestowitz__ too many tech companies in this admin, and only big tech companies [21:09] DaemonFC[m] Worse than nothing. Spent so much redoing his office furniture that it could have been housing vouchers for 50 low income families for an entire year. [21:09] DaemonFC[m] Nothing wrong with the old furniture. He just wanted different furniture in his HUD office, where he did nothing to help people with housing. Out of all the agencies that got sabotaged, HUD was perhaps the worst. [21:10] DaemonFC[m] You had a black guy running HUD and figuring out ways to deny housing to other black people. [21:10] vZS1_2 The USA is so satisfied with "not Trump" that sleepy Joe can get away with selling off more of the public to the highest bidder. [21:10] DaemonFC[m] HUD serves cities, while a lesser known and better funded program called USDA Rural Development Rent Subsidies serves poor white people in rural areas. [21:11] DaemonFC[m] It's like segregated drinking fountains for housing assistance, and the HUD ones don't even work. [21:12] vZS1_2 DMCA, UPA nonsense is likely to get a lot worse under Biden. Also let's not forget Biden was VP during the litigation that loved to cite the Espionage Act against journalists. [21:12] vZS1_2 Journalist = "High-tech terrorist" [21:13] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146685 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [21:14] vZS1_2 Biden is an enemy of everything TR stands for. [21:16] DaemonFC[m] The president is "king-like" but only for a time, and not quite as powerful. [21:16] DaemonFC[m] Some of the same legal concepts apply. [21:16] techrights-bot #Linux on the #Apple #M1 takes another step closer with #Ubuntu working thanks to Corellium http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27867 [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux Machines [21:18] vZS1_2 s/UPA/UPC/ [21:18] techrights-bot Extensions in #Firefox for #Android Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146684 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Extensions in Firefox for Android Update | Tux Machines [21:20] techrights-bot #LinuxMint 20.1 is a desktop anyone can love http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146682 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 20.1 is a desktop anyone can love | Tux Machines [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:22] schestowitz__ [21:14] Biden is an enemy of everything TR stands for. [21:22] schestowitz__ Trump more so! [21:22] schestowitz__ That's why I used relativism [21:22] vZS1_2 They're both terrible [21:22] schestowitz__ yes [21:23] vZS1_2 One pushed things so far to the right that people are jubilant with another plotocrat slightly less to the right [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shifted to the Right | Techrights [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/26/biden-transition-team/ [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/ [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/biden-riaa-and-mpaa/ [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Trump is Out. Now Its Time to Pressure the Biden Administration/Transition Team on Software Freedom Issues. | Techrights [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | But at Least Hes Not Donald Trump or George Bush | Techrights [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just for the Record(ing Industry): Joe Biden is an Enemy of Freedom and of Software Freedom | Techrights [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/assange-in-the-eyes-of-biden/ [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Joe Biden (or Vice President at the Time): Journalists Are Like Terrorists Who Conspire If/When They Expose US War Crimes and Government Corruption | Techrights [21:23] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [21:24] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/biden-challenges-ahead/ [21:24] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/software-freedom-reforms/ [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Biden Won The US Election, But the Challenges Ahead Have Only Just Begun | Techrights [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Mr. Biden Emerges as Preliminary/Tentative Winner | Techrights [21:24] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/bribing-for-bailouts/ [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Already Bribing the Likely Next US President (Having Also Paid the Trump Campaign) to Ensure Microsoft Can Get Away With Crimes and Receive Bailouts from Taxpayers | Techrights [21:24] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: maybe I will do a quick video about this.. [21:24] schestowitz__ or these [21:24] vZS1_2 Sounds like a good idea. [21:24] vZS1_2 People need to keep this administration under close scrutiny. [21:25] vZS1_2 Because we have Trump lite in the White House [21:25] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [21:26] vZS1_2 Biden is an ICE and PRISM enabler. [21:26] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/09/17/not-about-russia/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/social-control-media-misinformation/ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/ [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 Elections: No, Its Not About Russia | Techrights [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media Ought Not Influence Election Outcomes (But It Does, Oftentimes Based on Misinformation, No Quality Control) | Techrights [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Oligarchs Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights [21:26] DaemonFC[m] I doubt that the patent situation will get worse. The Supreme Court was resisting the urge to do that even though Trump was pushing for worse patents. [21:27] DaemonFC[m] The 2008 Democratic National Convention required Silverlight to stream it. [21:28] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/04/2020-election/ [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 Election Like 2016 Election Serves to Show Social Control Media is Disinformation Machine, a Growing Threat to Democracies | Techrights [21:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.66 [21:32] vZS1_2 schestowtiz__: More of the same pattern that we've spoken about https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/africa/uganda-election-internet-intl-hnk/index.html [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uganda elections: A lesson for other authoritarians that controlling the internet works - CNN [21:35] vZS1_2 The USA has been propping up Museveni for decades now. [21:37] vZS1_2 I've seen at least half a dozen instances of countries that turn the internet off during "elections" so that people can't communicate with outsiders. [21:38] vZS1_2 It's a big problem because rigged systems and things like ballot stuffing can't be exposed in real-time [21:41] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: I will do an index of posts on this [21:41] schestowitz__ Not sure about wiki page though [21:51] techrights-bot Recent Techrights Articles About #President #JoeBiden http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ #Techrights [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recent Techrights Articles About President Joe Biden | Techrights [21:52] techrights-bot #RedHat Seeks to Soothe #CentOS Linux Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27868 #ibm [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gonebut RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux Machines [21:53] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146687 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/20/#latest [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:55] techrights-bot #Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146686 #GNU #Linux [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs | Tux Machines [21:59] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726430.jpg ● Jan 20 [22:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.26 [22:36] techrights-bot Linux Foundation: "Let them eat coupons..." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146651#comment-27870 see http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define Support | Techrights [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [22:40] MinceR (audio:unimportant) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726104.mp4 [22:40] techrights-bot Daniel Stenberg: I've outsourced all #curl development to #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft :/ because who needs project autonomy anyway? https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/20/bye-bye-svn-haxx-se/ #deletegithub [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bye bye svn.haxx.se | daniel.haxx.se [22:41] techrights-bot #microsoft trolls are trolling us in #techrights #irc over #deletegithub so you know they feel the pinch ;-) [22:42] techrights-bot For the second time this week a site called #linuxtechlab pushed #apple Mac crap, so you know the site is not really about "LINUX" https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-deal-with-the-most-common-mac-errors/ [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Deal With the Most Common Mac Errors - LinuxTechLab [22:43] techrights-bot #HowTo Generate Random Numbers in #GNU #Linux or #Unix https://www.ultralinux.org/post/how-to-generate-random-numbers-in-unix/ #ultralinux | [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ultralinux.org | How To Generate Random Numbers in Unix [22:48] techrights-bot Building your own Network Monitor with #PyShark - Linux Hint https://linuxhint.com/building-your-own-network-monitor-with-pyshark/ #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux [22:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Building your own Network Monitor with PyShark Linux Hint [22:50] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146688 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:54] techrights-bot #IBM Panics and Resorts to Customer Retention Tactics With #RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-and-the-centos-contingency/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Panics and Resorts to Customer Retention Tactics With Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Techrights [22:55] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [22:55] schestowitz__ Instead of writing yet more stuff about the latest US president, lets look back at what we wrote in recent weeks/months http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ #biden #politics #tech #analysis [22:57] techrights-bot The @uspto is now headless after #trump mole resigns to avoid getting sacked https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/temporary-uspto-leadership.html #iancu was terrible: http://techrights.org/wiki/Andrei_Iancu [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | New (Temporary) USPTO Leadership | Patently-O [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights [22:58] techrights-bot http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights ● Jan 20 [23:00] techrights-bot "Google was the most sued business" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q635qnbrhqb5/district-court-2020-rankings-top-plaintiffs-defendants-and-firms according to site funded for #propaganda of #litigation #profiteers [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | District court 2020 rankings: top plaintiffs, defendants and firms | Managing Intellectual Property [23:01] techrights-bot Those are still #clinicalTrials rather than #Vaccines and this one already withdrew one experiment after many people had died https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143633/Brazil-Authorizes-OxfordAZ-and-Sinovac-Vaccines [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143633/Brazil-Authorizes-OxfordAZ-and-Sinovac-Vaccines ) [23:02] techrights-bot #SoftwarePatents need to die. All of them. They were never supposed to be granted in the first place as #swpats are not legal. Can #ptab finish them all off? https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/20/3000-for-cedar-lane-technologies-prior-art [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $3,000 for Cedar Lane Technologies Prior Art Unified Patents [23:03] techrights-bot #IBM frees #RHEL but with limitations that can restrict growth of small companies (or subject them to financial barriers, originally unforeseen) http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/rhel-and-the-centos-contingency/ #redhat #gnu #linux [23:04] techrights-bot Apachetop says #techrights traffic was 8TB in the past 2 weeks. It's an all-time high. [23:05] techrights-bot #Deskreen needs to #deletegithub because it's #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly of ANTI-Free software #microsoft https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/01/deskreen-makes-any-device-with-web.html [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Deskreen Makes Any Device With A Web Browser A Second Screen For Your Computer - Linux Uprising Blog [23:08] kingoffrance its funny how x gets reinvented [23:08] techrights-bot #Krita 4.4.2 Released With Over 300 Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146636#comment-27871 #kde #gnu #linux [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.2 Released | Tux Machines [23:11] techrights-bot " #Standards are boring. Satisfied users may not want to migrate to other boards the market tries to sell them." https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2021/01/20/standards-are-boring/ [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl | Standards areboring Marcin Juszkiewicz [23:12] techrights-bot Too many #apple hipsters at #mozilla ? https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/01/porting-firefox-to-apple-silicon/ [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Porting Firefox to Apple Silicon - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [23:13] techrights-bot #qt6 is #ProprietarySoftware (as per release plan), so better stay at #qt 5 and maybe wait for a proper #freesw fork with LTS too? https://www.kdab.com/getting-your-3d-ready-for-qt-6/ [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Getting your 3D ready for Qt 6 - KDAB - KDAB on Qt [23:14] techrights-bot "Amid all the conversation about Signal, and the debate over decentralization, one thing has often not been raised: all of these things require an Internet connection." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10205-roundup-of-secure-messengers-with-off-the-grid-capabilities-distributed-mesh-messengers [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Roundup of Secure Messengers with Off-The-Grid Capabilities (Distributed/Mesh Messengers) | The Changelog [23:15] techrights-bot "Amid all the conversation about Signal, and the debate over decentralization, one thing has often not been raised: all of these things require an Internet connection." https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10205-roundup-of-secure-messengers-with-off-the-grid-capabilities-distributed-mesh-messengers [23:15] MinceR better switch to a less horribly bloated toolkit from qt (and gtk) [23:18] schestowitz__ MinceR: I have used both [23:18] schestowitz__ as a developer [23:18] schestowitz__ I would not again [23:18] MinceR so have i [23:18] schestowitz__ because of maintenance [23:18] schestowitz__ you write a progra [23:18] schestowitz__ it works [23:18] schestowitz__ it compiled [23:18] schestowitz__ on your system [23:18] schestowitz__ once upon a time [23:18] schestowitz__ then came a new version [23:18] schestowitz__ so you needed to rewrite [23:18] schestowitz__ again [23:18] schestowitz__ and again [23:18] schestowitz__ same for php and python [23:18] schestowitz__ but worse with those toolkits [23:18] vZS1_2 This is why I like C. At least it's stable. [23:18] schestowitz__ in qt's case, even the license is changing [23:19] vZS1_2 Bash as well [23:19] vZS1_2 Very stable [23:19] schestowitz__ so you may not be able to run your program again without major code rewrites [23:19] schestowitz__ and that never ends [23:19] psydroid I never even started [23:19] schestowitz__ even your binary dynamically or statically linked would no longer run [23:19] vZS1_2 More people should program in GNU Bash. It's a great glue language. [23:19] schestowitz__ it is [23:19] schestowitz__ I favour it because my old programs still work [23:19] vZS1_2 It's my favourite programming language [23:20] vZS1_2 Because it works [23:20] vZS1_2 It's reliable [23:20] vZS1_2 It's stable [23:20] schestowitz__ it has just changed much since the 80s or maybe 70s if the unix one is still there [23:20] MinceR i prefer python and lisp [23:20] vZS1_2 And Bash actually enhances UNIX philosophy. It's built to work with files, at its core. [23:21] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726058.jpg [23:21] vZS1_2 There's a great advantage to programming with your shell [23:21] MinceR (and yet the last program i wrote was in bash) [23:22] techrights-bot OMG LOL. Shilling 'only' 209.99 (from Bezos) something you could get for like a TENTH that price https://popey.com/blog/2021/01/xiaomi-redmi-airdots-s-review/ [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Xiaomi Redmi AirDots S Review [23:23] vZS1_2 "|", ">", "<", ">>", "<()", ">()". These things are all amazing for "modular" programming [23:23] vZS1_2 Building complex tools out of simple ones [23:23] techrights-bot Learn #JavaScript by writing a guessing game | https://opensource.com/article/21/1/learn-javascript #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #programming [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Learn JavaScript by writing a guessing game | Opensource.com [23:23] *tr_guest|30854 (a2d8a3b9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.216.163.185) has joined #techrights [23:24] techrights-bot #qt is becoming #ProprietarySoftware (again) and combining it with prisoner-of- #microsoft #rustlang is not a good plan for #kde (IMHO) https://carlschwan.eu/2021/01/20/efficient-custom-shapes-in-qtquick-with-rust/ [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-carlschwan.eu | Efficient custom shapes in QtQuick with Rust [23:25] vZS1_2 Composability is the superior way to program [23:25] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:26] techrights-bot New release: #VLC 3.0.12 #Vetinari - VideoLAN https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/3.0.12.html #videolan [23:26] vZS1_2 That's why the hyper-specialised UNIX tools are still around. And all these new ones fade in and out of obscurity; they try to do too much and fail being _great_ at anything. [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.videolan.org | VLC 3.0.12 Vetinari - VideoLAN [23:27] schestowitz__ will systemd still be around in 20 years? [23:27] vZS1_2 Idk [23:27] MinceR probably not [23:27] schestowitz__ given what IBM has been doing lately, I doubt it [23:27] schestowitz__ they kill the goose [23:27] schestowitz__ for some lousy pair of balls [23:27] MinceR maybe if Backdoors11 will be the new "Linux" and integrates systemd [23:28] techrights-bot "Its been a tough and stressful year for many of us, and we are all in need of some care and attention" https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/article/3118430/self-care-trends-around-world-nelson-mandelas-one-people [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Self-care trends from around the world, from Nelson Mandelas one-people philosophy to cow cuddling and taking a hay bath | South China Morning Post [23:29] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 10.86 [23:29] techrights-bot #gnomefoundation Molly de Blanc: #Inauguration Pie http://deblanc.net/blog/2021/01/20/inauguration-pie/ [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deblanc.net | Inauguration Pie | Life on M [23:30] techrights-bot Use #RaspberryPI as FM Radio transmitter - peppe8o https://peppe8o.com/use-raspberry-pi-as-fm-radio-transmitter/ #peppe8o #gnu #linux [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Use Raspberry PI as FM Radio transmitter - peppe8o [23:31] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - James Bruton demonstrates the Coanda effect with an Arduino-controlled rig https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/20/james-bruton-demonstrates-the-coanda-effect-with-an-arduino-controlled-rig/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog James Bruton demonstrates the Coanda effect with an Arduino-controlled rig [23:33] techrights-bot #Renesas RZ/G2L MPUs Feature Cortex-A55 & Cortex-M33 Cores for AI http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146686#comment-27872 "for AI applications = #marketing rubbish. HEY HI. [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Renesas adds to RZ/G2 line with three Cortex-A55 SoCs | Tux Machines [23:34] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat in action: "As many users have noticed, you cannot install all the software you want on your computer via gnome-software. This restriction has been imposed by the developer" https://rbuj.wordpress.com/2021/01/20/gnome-software-jailbreak/ [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rbuj.wordpress.com | GNOME Software Jailbreak | Robert Antoni Buj Gelonch [23:35] techrights-bot Roles, h'uh, what are they good for? | Jesse Shy http://blogs.perl.org/users/jesse_shy/2021/01/roles-huh-what-are-they-good-for.html #perl #programming [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Roles, h'uh, what are they good for? | Jesse Shy [blogs.perl.org] [23:35] vZS1_2 schestowtiz__: btw, a lot of these "techrights-bot" posts are pretty off topic for being here. They should go in TM instead. [23:36] vZS1_2 Like Arduino and RPI blog posts. Not really about Technological Rights. [23:37] techrights-bot This blog post serves to highlight how deeply entrenched and entangled #rustlang has become inside #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware trap https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/01/15/rustdoc-performance-improvements.html #deletegithub [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Rustdoc performance improvements | Inside Rust Blog [23:37] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: right, good point [23:37] schestowitz__ where do you set the threshold or relevance? [23:37] vZS1_2 Whereas this rust proprietary one is on topic. So stuff like that is the only stuff we should see here [23:37] schestowitz__ I don't post politics into here, but... [23:37] schestowitz__ OK, I will try to split apart better [23:38] vZS1_2 I don't think we need strict filter [23:38] schestowitz__ though it was never clear what fits in and what does not [23:38] vZS1_2 But some filter is required [23:38] vZS1_2 Right now we get everything from TM here too [23:38] schestowitz__ #boycott-novell has everything in it [23:38] schestowitz__ politics included [23:40] techrights-bot #qt : we make our #freesw download a second-class citizen now https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Open-Source-Cloud-Failure if #ProprietarySoftware comes first, then it needs forking or avoiding IMHO (I used Qt before) [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Qt Open-Source Downloads Temporarily Offline Due To Severe Hardware Failure - Phoronix [23:41] techrights-bot Sergio Villar Senin: #Flexbox Cats (a.k.a fixing images in flexbox) https://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2021/01/20/flexbox-cats-a-k-a-fixing-images-in-flexbox/ #gnome #freesw #igalia [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Flexbox Cats (a.k.a fixing images in flexbox) Virtual Reality [23:41] CrystalMath i think the 4 years of Trump were pretty good years [23:41] CrystalMath the US largely left Syria and Afghanistan [23:41] MinceR you'll get over it [23:42] techrights-bot #Oracle #Linux 8: Containers made easy with short training videos https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/oracle-linux-8%3A-containers-made-easy-with-short-training-videos they can take advantage of #ibm being dumb about #centos [23:42] CrystalMath MinceR: well i feel like rough times and angry yelling and pretty much ahead [23:42] *schestowitz__ won't even bother... sigh [23:43] CrystalMath i think the main goal of any sane person should be to elminate america's roll as the world leader [23:43] CrystalMath *role [23:43] CrystalMath and we must keep on fighting to make sure that america falls from this title [23:44] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [23:44] schestowitz__ "As part of GNU, Guix aims to bring freedom to computer users all over the world, no matter the languages they (prefer to) speak." Unless they're RMS. Then you try to banish him/them, #guix https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2021/adding-translations-to-guix-website/ [23:44] MinceR yeah, russia will be so much better as world leader ...oh wait [23:44] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: on that we can agree [23:44] schestowitz__ MinceR: false dichotomy [23:44] schestowitz__ or "China" [23:44] MinceR jyna [23:45] schestowitz__ let countries have it their own way [23:45] schestowitz__ esp. small countries [23:45] vZS1_2 There is no world leader. There are world owners [23:45] MinceR it would be better to not have countries at all [23:45] vZS1_2 Plutocrats [23:45] schestowitz__ which are labeled "rogue" and "banana" [23:45] schestowitz__ ask the Greek [23:45] MinceR they fuck everything up [23:45] MinceR if you expect humanity to not fuck everything up, you aren't paying attention [23:45] schestowitz__ Evangelicals want to US to be World Ladder [23:45] CrystalMath MinceR: i believe in local governance, so there should definitely be countries [23:45] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:46] MinceR i prefer more local governance [23:46] MinceR i.e. anarchism [23:46] CrystalMath well if that's an option [23:46] MinceR https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/934/770/0e3.jpg [23:47] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [23:47] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [23:48] DaemonFC[m] Evangelicals would win every election if the Republicans weren't so stupid and corrupt that they destroy our economy if you give them a few years. [23:49] MinceR but then they wouldn't be evangelicals [23:49] techrights-bot #Little ee is an affordable, #openhardware current & magnetic field probe (Crowdfunding) https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/20/little-bee-affordable-open-hardware-current-magnetic-field-probe/ [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Little Bee is an affordable, open hardware current & magnetic field probe (Crowdfunding) [23:50] DaemonFC[m] A few of them kindly put God off to the side when they lose their own jobs, and marginally attached voters wake up for a moment and remove the president. [23:50] DaemonFC[m] That's exactly what happened here. [23:51] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: https://www.noobslab.com/2021/01/things-to-keep-in-mind-before.html [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Things to Keep in Mind Before Implementing AI in Your Business - NoobsLab | Eye on Digital World [23:51] schestowitz__ do you have the HEY HIs? [23:51] schestowitz__ notice the image too [23:51] schestowitz__ HEY HI [23:51] DaemonFC[m] Biden will probably win re-election. I mean, it's obviously not guaranteed, but most presidents who win once can win twice, and Democrats have only lost the popular vote once (2004) since 1988 [23:51] MinceR saying HI in the HAY? [23:51] MinceR http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fallon-haay.gif [23:52] DaemonFC[m] It's very hard to pick off an incumbent president. Even a very bad one. [23:52] MinceR the popular vote doesn't really matter as long as the system is as broken as it is [23:52] vZS1_2 Biden's rhetoric isn't encouraging either. He talks about giving everybody "a fair shot". This whole "American dream BS". [23:52] DaemonFC[m] The fact that Biden managed tells us just how bad things got under Trump. [23:52] vZS1_2 That's why they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it. [23:52] vZS1_2 -George Carlin [23:53] MinceR exactly [23:53] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: It's unusual to win the popular vote and not the electoral college. [23:53] vZS1_2 And boy are they all asleep for sleepy Joe himself. [23:53] techrights-bot ...only if you consider the journal itself to be "productivity" https://opensource.com/article/21/1/open-source-journal [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why keeping a journal improves productivity | Opensource.com [23:53] MinceR DaemonFC[m]: and yet iirc every time that happens, a "republican" candidate wins presidency [23:53] DaemonFC[m] It's happened a few times in hundreds of years, but twice this century. [23:53] DaemonFC[m] Well, it's because of a realignment going on, MinceR [23:53] DaemonFC[m] It's not going to just keep happening over and over again. [23:54] techrights-bot Well you look different: #Apache #CloudStack 4.15 lands with new UI, improved access control S https://devclass.com/2021/01/20/cloudstack-4_5/ #devclass #freesw [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Well you look different: Apache CloudStack 4.15 lands with new UI, improved access control DEVCLASS [23:54] DaemonFC[m] Arizona and Georgia are rapidly getting to the point where they're lost to the Republicans. Wisconsin and Michigan are steaming mad about the economy and unlikely to forget soon about USMCA. [23:55] DaemonFC[m] I think the time has come for Democrats to stop trying to win Florida and look to shoring up Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin. [23:55] techrights-bot #Odroid Go Goes Super - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/odroid-go-goes-super/ #boilingsteam #games #sbc [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Odroid Go Goes Super - Boiling Steam [23:55] DaemonFC[m] The media markets there are cheaper and it should be easier to hold. [23:56] techrights-bot Extensions in Firefox for Android Update | Mozilla Add-ons Blog https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/01/20/extensions-in-firefox-for-android-update/ #Mozilla #WWW #FreeSW #Firefox #Internet [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Extensions in Firefox for Android Update | Mozilla Add-ons Blog [23:57] vZS1_2 Odoroid have some pretty good boards. They've done a lot of work to make SBCs more accessible. [23:57] *tr_guest|30854 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [23:58] DaemonFC[m] I'm thrilled we'll have the first Press Briefing momentarily and I don't have to worry about what bombs and lies whoever the Press Secretary this week will throw. [23:59] techrights-bot #PlannedObsolescence https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/hp-pavilion-linux-modern-distros.html #gnu #linux #hp #graphics [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | My 10-year-old HP Pavilion doesn't boot modern distros anymore