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| immibis | protecting the state at all costs sounds like a fascist thing | Mar 20 00:00 |
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| MinceR | this wouldn't be the only way in which marxism was proven to be wrong | Mar 20 00:00 |
| matey | putin <3 stalin (but probably for real) | Mar 20 00:00 |
| immibis | reminder: tankies are not communists, they are just fascists wearing communist clothes for good optics | Mar 20 00:00 |
| MinceR | putler expressed nostalgia for the USSR | Mar 20 00:00 |
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| matey | protecting the state at all costs sounds like a fascist thing <- its a totalitarian thing. fascism is a product of capitalism. | Mar 20 00:00 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162757 | Mar 20 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That can be attributed to his populism. | Mar 20 00:00 |
| matey | stalins regime was bonapartist | Mar 20 00:00 |
| matey | fascism is totalitarian too | Mar 20 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | When it comes to rhetoric, he's a huge populist. | Mar 20 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 20 00:01 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it does suggest that he wishes he could annex the rest of the eastern bloc though | Mar 20 00:01 |
| matey | putler expressed nostalgia for the USSR <- putlers regime is to stalinism what gemini is to gopher | Mar 20 00:01 |
| matey | sorry gemini, didnt mean it like that | Mar 20 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | A lot of ex-USSR autocrats are like that. Lukashenko's free time was all populism. | Mar 20 00:01 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 00:01 |
| immibis | maybe bonapartism is just fascism before it was called fascism | Mar 20 00:01 |
| techrights-news | Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, AppImages, Going Linux, and Nvidia • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162758 | Mar 20 00:01 |
| techrights-news | Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, AppImages, Going Linux, and Nvidia • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162758 | Mar 20 00:01 |
| matey | maybe bonapartism is just fascism before it was <- no, fascism was already called that | Mar 20 00:02 |
| matey | and bonapartism doesnt turn into fascism (but it does sometimes jump into bed with it) | Mar 20 00:02 |
| matey | again the two are very similar | Mar 20 00:02 |
| matey | the quibble is over accuracy | Mar 20 00:02 |
| immibis | bonapartism: 1852. fascism: 1880 | Mar 20 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, AppImages, Going Linux, and Nvidia | Tux Machines | Mar 20 00:02 | |
| matey | bonapartism: 1852 <- i mean that was the one that the word comes from of course | Mar 20 00:02 |
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| XRevan86 | > The term has been used more generally for a political movement that advocated an authoritarian centralised state, with a strongman charismatic leader based on anti-elitist rhetoric, army support, as well as conservatism. | Mar 20 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | That… is not Putin. | Mar 20 00:03 |
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| techrights-news | "Eight days of news, and still not a lot that's super Linux on Mobile specific. At least there's been another Ubuntu Touch Q&A, another postmarketOS Service Pack, and it looks like that really need to find the time to have a look at Capyloon." https://linmob.net/weekly-update-11-2022/ | Mar 20 00:03 |
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| immibis | TIL Trump is bonapartist | Mar 20 00:03 |
| matey | trump was right wing | Mar 20 00:03 |
| matey | my guess is fascist, but i didnt pay as much attention to trump as others | Mar 20 00:04 |
| immibis | specifically, bonapartist, according to that definition. Authoritarian and centralized? check. Strongman, charistmatic? Check. Anti-elitist rhetoric? check. Army support? no clue. Conservatism? well duh | Mar 20 00:04 |
| techrights-news | "On March 20, 2022 curl turns 24 years old." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/20/curl-is-now-24/ still needs to Delete GitHub http://techrights.org/wiki/Delete_Github | Mar 20 00:04 |
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| immibis | sounds like the only difference from fascism is just anti-elitist rhetoric | Mar 20 00:04 |
| immibis | not even actual anti-elitism | Mar 20 00:04 |
| activelow | fascism = violent force and death penalty; that's one line to be drawm, for definition | Mar 20 00:04 |
| MinceR | not much of a difference in the age when rhetoric changes on a dime :> | Mar 20 00:05 |
| MinceR | or even contradicts itself | Mar 20 00:05 |
| matey | i would be content if people considered (left open) a possibility (any at all) that putin is not fascist per se but in fact something with a great deal of similiartary TO fascism | Mar 20 00:05 |
| techrights-news | Is r/linux a cult of deranged hallucinogen addicts? Are they dangerous? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162759 | Mar 20 00:05 |
| matey | however if thats not possible, i cant say its a pet theory-- its a quibble | Mar 20 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: What Putin has is not really army support. | Mar 20 00:05 |
| MinceR | orban likes to pretend to be with terrorussia and the NATO at the same time | Mar 20 00:05 |
| immibis | matey: that is absolutely a quibble over semantics | Mar 20 00:05 |
| activelow | with the guillotine, death penalty was civilized in france, in comparison to former habits | Mar 20 00:05 |
| matey | <immibis> matey: that is absolutely a quibble over semantic <- its a quibble over accuracy | Mar 20 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is r/linux a cult of deranged hallucinogen addicts? Are they dangerous? | Tux Machines | Mar 20 00:05 | |
| matey | but you can call it semantics | Mar 20 00:05 |
| matey | at any rate it does nothing to me if people call putin a fascist | Mar 20 00:06 |
| matey | i was sure someone asked a question, and i answered it | Mar 20 00:06 |
| matey | if they disagree, thats okay | Mar 20 00:06 |
| techrights-news | Weird ramble, but typical from ultimate edition http://ultimateedition.info/darkness-settles-in/ | Mar 20 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ultimateedition.info | Darkness Settles In. - Ultimate Edition | Mar 20 00:06 | |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't really matter, it's a dictatorship. | Mar 20 00:07 |
| matey | It doesn't really matter, it's a dictatorship <- this is not an idle point | Mar 20 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | maybe fascist, maybe not | Mar 20 00:07 |
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| immibis | it's 2022. fascism is when the government does stuff. | Mar 20 00:09 |
| immibis | fascist communism | Mar 20 00:09 |
| MinceR | >$(date +%Y) | Mar 20 00:09 |
| immibis | capitalism is when microsoft does stuff | Mar 20 00:09 |
| MinceR | i thought capitalism was everything that's bad | Mar 20 00:09 |
| activelow | it's when anyone got more money than you | Mar 20 00:10 |
| matey | turns out deformed communism is bad too | Mar 20 00:10 |
| immibis | on twitter the conservatives are complaining that wellington residents aren't eating at restaurants because of covid | Mar 20 00:10 |
| immibis | turns out there's a minimum quota of avocado toast | Mar 20 00:10 |
| MinceR | well, others having more money than me is bad, hence, capitalism | Mar 20 00:10 |
| MinceR | what, millennials are killing avocado toast now? | Mar 20 00:10 |
| immibis | capitalism is when you have to eat avocado toast, which is the reason you can't have a house | Mar 20 00:10 |
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| immibis | MinceR: yes | Mar 20 00:10 |
| matey | let them eat toast! | Mar 20 00:10 |
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| immibis | or rather, their lack of avocado toast demand is killing businesses | Mar 20 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | Putin's Russia is not really fascist albeit it does share a lot of traits. | Mar 20 00:11 |
| MinceR | apparently there are multiple definitions of "fascist" | Mar 20 00:11 |
| matey | avocado toast is killing the cafe industry (and its illegal) | Mar 20 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Fascism implies a very militarised society. | Mar 20 00:12 |
| immibis | fascism is when millenials won't buy avocado toast | Mar 20 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | Russia is disorder incarnate. | Mar 20 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.investopedia.com/irs-unveils-voice-and-chat-bots-to-assist-taxpayers-5222614 | Mar 20 00:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.investopedia.com | IRS Unveils Voice and Chat Bots to Assist Taxpayers | Mar 20 00:12 | |
| chicksahoy | is this boomerights? | Mar 20 00:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 00:12 |
| matey | it is now that roy turned 40 | Mar 20 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | "It looks like you're screaming and jumping up and down that we put a lien on your car. Want some help?" -Clippy Voice | Mar 20 00:12 |
| chicksahoy | matey: fair enough | Mar 20 00:12 |
| matey | free walking frames are available by the door | Mar 20 00:12 |
| matey | please dont use them in a war. | Mar 20 00:13 |
| chicksahoy | im a 37 year old millenial | Mar 20 00:14 |
| matey | note that debian forbids anyone who wishes to maintain dd status from contributing to projects that will be used by the dept of defence (including ironcically, red hat) | Mar 20 00:14 |
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| matey | but we are making an exception for ukraine because we chose that side as having a right to defend themselves (which i agree with, but this could get very stupid VERY quickly) | Mar 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | red hat inclusive of ANY malicious company | Mar 20 00:15 |
| matey | next time we might decide saudi arabia is in the right, and only canada has no right to defend itself | Mar 20 00:15 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: at least two definitions i've come across do not imply a militarized society | Mar 20 00:15 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ | Mar 20 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Giving Awards to Raytheon Won’t Help Red Hat’s Image | Techrights | Mar 20 00:15 | |
| MinceR | 20 011304 < matey> please dont use them in a war. | Mar 20 00:15 |
| matey | i thought raytheon invented cobol | Mar 20 00:15 |
| MinceR | damn, i was about to weld a walking frame technical. | Mar 20 00:15 |
| matey | mincer youre being unethical, youve received a warning | Mar 20 00:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 00:16 |
| matey | libreplanet is mother, libreplanet is father | Mar 20 00:16 |
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| MinceR | cancel me baby | Mar 20 00:16 |
| matey | ohho, not here, there are more "secluded" channels for that | Mar 20 00:16 |
| matey | microsoft <3 [redacted] | Mar 20 00:17 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: The closest thing Russia has to fascism are an oppressive regime and militarist symbolism. | Mar 20 00:17 |
| matey | and lots of rocks | Mar 20 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: if it was't disorder incarnate, i wouldn't like it :P | Mar 20 00:18 |
| MinceR | microsoft, the cognitive hazard | Mar 20 00:18 |
| matey | there were some trees but pudding sold them all | Mar 20 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | i like to think that i am disorder incarnate | Mar 20 00:18 |
| matey | god the straight line is strong with him | Mar 20 00:18 |
| chicksahoy | CrystalMath: i love ur name | Mar 20 00:18 |
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| MinceR | GeneralDisarray | Mar 20 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The political regime is very centralised however. | Mar 20 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | chicksahoy: thanks :) | Mar 20 00:18 |
| XRevan86 | It just lives by the Orwellian rules of not really touching the prolls. | Mar 20 00:18 |
| chicksahoy | CrystalMath: no prob :) | Mar 20 00:19 |
| matey | XRevan86 i dont think it has to touch them to shoot them per se | Mar 20 00:19 |
| matey | "look if they were standing in the way of the bullet thats their business" | Mar 20 00:19 |
| matey | "i never laid a finger on them" | Mar 20 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What I mean is that the extent of central control begins and ends on power. | Mar 20 00:20 |
| matey | yes it does | Mar 20 00:20 |
| chicksahoy | CrystalMath: have you ever seen breaking bad? | Mar 20 00:22 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What's your opinion on people being crushed for publicly showing disagreement with war? | Mar 20 00:23 |
| matey | when did that happen | Mar 20 00:24 |
| XRevan86 | Err, not literally crushed. | Mar 20 00:24 |
| matey | even non-literally | Mar 20 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/20/irs-gives-giant-middle-finger-to-customers-with-chat-bot-software/ | Mar 20 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | IRS gives giant middle finger to “customers” with chat bot software. – BaronHK's Rants | Mar 20 00:26 | |
| matey | unless youre talking about the newsperson | Mar 20 00:26 |
| matey | that was awesome | Mar 20 00:26 |
| XRevan86 | matey: https://mk.ru/incident/2022/03/18/zhitelya-krasnodara-zaderzhali-za-plevok-v-plakat-s-bukvoy-z.html | Mar 20 00:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mk.ru | Жителя Краснодара задержали за плевок в плакат с буквой Z - МК | Mar 20 00:26 | |
| matey | XRevan86 i thought you were talking about something else entirely | Mar 20 00:27 |
| matey | thanks for the link | Mar 20 00:27 |
| matey | also i havent heard of this one, i was thinking of the person who got fined that was an editor on russian news | Mar 20 00:27 |
| matey | who thankfully is still alive (but probably shouldnt drink tea ever again) | Mar 20 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | matey: There were several news about regular people being found after disrespecting the war publicly. | Mar 20 00:28 |
| XRevan86 | Seems widespread. | Mar 20 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | Next up, XRevan86 turns on the Russian Boob tubesky to hear SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS MADE FROM PEEEEEOPLE! | Mar 20 00:29 |
| matey | thats the sad truth-- you stand up to mass murder in a totalitarian regime your days are likely numbered | Mar 20 00:29 |
| matey | theyre all heroes of course | Mar 20 00:29 |
| matey | Seems widesprea <- i was unaware that the numbers were climbing | Mar 20 00:30 |
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| XRevan86 | The police are happy with fining people left and right. | Mar 20 00:31 |
| matey | the police are never on the side of the people | Mar 20 00:31 |
| matey | even when they are | Mar 20 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> The police are happy with fining people left and right. | Mar 20 00:31 |
| matey | theyre still not | Mar 20 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like Chicago.... | Mar 20 00:31 |
| matey | they will always have the same masters | Mar 20 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Black people seem to just let the fines pile up. | Mar 20 00:32 |
| matey | and they will even believe otherwise themselves | Mar 20 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Any spitting on symbols of war in Chicago? | Mar 20 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | Until they owe the city $30,000 worth of unpaid tickets. | Mar 20 00:32 |
| XRevan86 | Didn't realise this discussion is about black people. | Mar 20 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | "Have you tried slowing down and not parking in a fire zone?" | Mar 20 00:32 |
| techrights-news | "I've been quiet here for a bit, as I've decided to write solely in the gopherspace for the foreseeable future. If you're a fellow gopher, you can find me on a couple of the popular aggregators." gemini://rfmpie.smol.pub/to-gopher | Mar 20 00:32 |
| matey | if you ask daemonfc, antarctica is about black people | Mar 20 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | I got a letter one day from the city and opened it before I realized it wasn't mine. | Mar 20 00:32 |
| matey | or it will be, just wait | Mar 20 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | They were still chasing down some woman for tickets all the way back to 2004 and wanted $3,000 to settle them. | Mar 20 00:33 |
| techrights-news | The Trouble with PowerPoint gemini://tilde.team/~steve/blog/powerpoint.gmi | Mar 20 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's like "What's even the point? They don't pay. You're going to fine them again?" | Mar 20 00:34 |
| matey | they will always have the same masters <- the same mains | Mar 20 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | They just passed another law with the Big Black Cauc(us). | Mar 20 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | No revocation of your driver's license for unpaid fines anymore. | Mar 20 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | They were pulling over so many people for no license that they had to put them in jail at that point. | Mar 20 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Mar 20 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | That doesn't make the state money either, so that had to go. | Mar 20 00:34 |
| MinceR | with DaemonFC, every discussion is about black people lately | Mar 20 00:35 |
| immibis | lately? always | Mar 20 00:35 |
| XRevan86 | How many years is "lately"? | Mar 20 00:35 |
| matey | you know whats fun that schestowitz cant do | Mar 20 00:35 |
| matey | but maybe he can (nope) | Mar 20 00:36 |
| matey | schestowitz cant take what kuhn is saying about a second code of conduct | Mar 20 00:36 |
| matey | look at the fsfs "ethical" requirements | Mar 20 00:36 |
| matey | put 2 and 2 together, and realise that the fsf did what kuhn wanted even before libreplanet did | Mar 20 00:36 |
| matey | you know why? because we have to address the fsf with kid gloves | Mar 20 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | matey: He told DaemonFC to go with this to a different channel, but he's not willing to enforce. | Mar 20 00:37 |
| matey | kuhn wants (maybe) a second code of conduct under the guise of ethical standards (in lieu of shitty non-free licensing) | Mar 20 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | Many-many times. | Mar 20 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | XRevan86 was talking about the police and fines. | Mar 20 00:37 |
| matey | the fsf JUST implemented that in january | Mar 20 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | If they could enforce all of their toothless fines that they impose here, they'd be rolling in money. | Mar 20 00:38 |
| matey | a second code of conduct in the guise of ethical standards | Mar 20 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: I was talking about suppression of speech and free consciousness. | Mar 20 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | We'd go from bankrupt state with Russian credit rating to the biggest surplus in America. | Mar 20 00:38 |
| matey | kuhn doesnt run the fsf, he just wants credit for what they did to the board | Mar 20 00:38 |
| MinceR | well, maybe the SJWs could fuck off, stop poisoning free software and do their own thing | Mar 20 00:38 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't miss them | Mar 20 00:38 |
| matey | MinceR ffs what do you think an sjw is FOR anyway? | Mar 20 00:38 |
| immibis | MinceR: you sound like DaemonFC but about sjws instead of black people | Mar 20 00:38 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, i'm not sure if they could take their corporate benefactors with them | Mar 20 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: he did use other channels on occasions | Mar 20 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | immibis: No, MinceR's fixation is systemd | Mar 20 00:39 |
| MinceR | they don't even seem to like copyleft very much, how would they feel about "ethical" requirements? | Mar 20 00:39 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR: kuhn is asking for something thats already been granted | Mar 20 00:39 |
| MinceR | apparently i have many fixations :> | Mar 20 00:39 |
| matey | this is after i read the whole thing and had a day to think about it. | Mar 20 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | mjg59_ annoys me greatly, in the sense that he's like Arnold Rimmer after the polymorph got him and turned him into a hippie that proposed a leaflet campaign to defeat the polymorph. | Mar 20 00:39 |
| matey | MinceR's fixation is systemd <- no, systemd is a fixture (albeit a broken fixture) | Mar 20 00:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D177.jpg | Mar 20 00:40 |
| schestowitz | gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D535.jpg | Mar 20 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | SJWs just shouldn't be a thing because they're an obstacle to solving problems. | Mar 20 00:40 |
| schestowitz | caged | Mar 20 00:40 |
| MinceR | :3 | Mar 20 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | They give you more problems. | Mar 20 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of fixing the crime, you're not allowed to talk about the crime. Everything is solved at that point. | Mar 20 00:40 |
| matey | systemd will eventually be replaced by 3 seashells | Mar 20 00:41 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What I mean is that MinceR can make a discussion about systemd from almost anything. | Mar 20 00:41 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: you are an obstacle to solving problems | Mar 20 00:41 |
| schestowitz | matey: sheeshtem dee | Mar 20 00:41 |
| matey | XRevan86: to be fair, systemd is incredibly difficult to avoid altogether | Mar 20 00:41 |
| schestowitz | matey: sheeshtem doo doo | Mar 20 00:41 |
| matey | its pretty much everywhere you look | Mar 20 00:41 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/ff/aa/49ffaabc52270b428a6040aee54f0e62.jpg | Mar 20 00:41 |
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| DaemonFC | They should have Mr. Gulag picking up trash on the side of the road as penance for crapflooding Reddit. | Mar 20 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's a big enough cesspit without any extra help. | Mar 20 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | matey: If I bring up package management in Debian, it doesn't mean I want to talk about how that's systemd's fault. | Mar 20 00:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/09/03/rigging-epo-elections/ | Mar 20 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Rigga’ From Riga | Techrights | Mar 20 00:42 | |
| matey | matey: If I bring up package management in Debian, it doesn't mean I want to talk about how that's systemd's fault. <- expecting mincer to not talk about systemd is like expecting daemonfc to not blame systemd on black people | Mar 20 00:42 |
| immibis | it's probably the people in the gulags who are writing the trash. 50 ruble party | Mar 20 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | matey: So that's my idea of a fixation. | Mar 20 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | IBM doesn't have any blacks. | Mar 20 00:43 |
| matey | and its correct, i was just having fun with it | Mar 20 00:43 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Eeeexactly. | Mar 20 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | So systemd is something that you can't blame on blacks. | Mar 20 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Like most of Mr. Goolag's employers, there's either no blacks or just enough to maybe keep the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission away. | Mar 20 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Like lettuce on a one pound hamburger from Hardees, overflowing with cheese. | Mar 20 00:44 |
| techrights-news | #LateStageCapitalism https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/20/irs-gives-giant-middle-finger-to-customers-with-chat-bot-software/ | Mar 20 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | A figleaf. | Mar 20 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | IRS gives giant middle finger to “customers” with chat bot software. – BaronHK's Rants | Mar 20 00:44 | |
| DaemonFC | Goolag is 4% black and it likes keeping them wherever they're at, apparently, which is away from the C level executive bathroom. | Mar 20 00:45 |
| matey | the good news is that fixating on systemd isnt unethical (unlike weaponising a walking frame, which is NEVER okay) | Mar 20 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | But even that's a higher number than IBM. | Mar 20 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Goolag has separate but equal cubicles, you see. | Mar 20 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. Goolag tried to change it to get rid of the whites only drinking fountains, with the union. | Mar 20 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | And then left in frustration when the effort petered out. | Mar 20 00:47 |
| matey | /me quietly adds "dont be evil" to the fsd and sees if any good comes of it | Mar 20 00:47 |
| matey | /me moves it to the debian ethical guidelines and fixes everything | Mar 20 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | matey: true | Mar 20 00:47 |
| MinceR | deadian is probably beyond fixing already | Mar 20 00:47 |
| matey | no disagreement whatsoever | Mar 20 00:47 |
| matey | but its not too late to make it worse | Mar 20 00:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 20 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | Goolag Searches are enhanced. You get a free Klan Rally with every Google One subscription. | Mar 20 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: :D | Mar 20 00:48 |
| matey | actually i do disagree slightly | Mar 20 00:48 |
| matey | id strike "probably" from what you said | Mar 20 00:48 |
| MinceR | that's hardly a disagreement :> | Mar 20 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | In the very progressive city state of San Francisco, nobody will ever accuse them of not being liberals. | Mar 20 00:49 |
| matey | when i say slightly, i really mean it | Mar 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | They're so progressive, in fact, that the mounds of human shit on the sidewalks are because they tax themselves to use public restrooms. | Mar 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Just to make sure the "right people" poop in there. | Mar 20 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not many people know that in the 1970s, there was an organization in Chicago called CEPTIA or the Committee to Eliminate Pay Toilets In America. | Mar 20 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | It got a law passed against pay toilets in Chicago, so Chicago has a lot of problems, but human shit on the sidewalks isn't one of them. | Mar 20 00:51 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: I thought you hated the government telling people to put their poop in the sewer. You should be ecstatic that the government doesn't do that in SF | Mar 20 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | In San Francisco, home of Apple, Google, and Facebook, it's pretty common to live with six other people you don't know and still pay $1,500 a month for your share of the rent on a small apartment, but then when you get outside, you see people unzip their pants and squat and just shit wherever they happen to be. | Mar 20 00:52 |
| MinceR | technically, eliminating _all_ toilets would eliminate all pay toilets | Mar 20 00:52 |
| MinceR | (and in budapest, any sort of public toilet is very rare) | Mar 20 00:52 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: Must be an awesome city if people are willing to pay $1,500 with 6 roommates | Mar 20 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | If you're into scat, you should definitely move to San Francisco. | Mar 20 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | People there "get it". | Mar 20 00:53 |
| immibis | maybe that's why people are willing to pay $1,500 to live with 6 roommates | Mar 20 00:53 |
| MinceR | if you're into dog shit, budapest might be for you | Mar 20 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> (and in budapest, any sort of public toilet is very rare) | Mar 20 00:54 |
| matey | my house in budapest, my gold public pay toilet, my fascist government, my tired hopeless future ooohhooooh oooohhhhooo id leave it all | Mar 20 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Russia will face a public toilet crisis now that McDonald's is leaving the country. | Mar 20 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | I kind of know where all the Jewel-Osco stores are in Chicago. | Mar 20 00:54 |
| matey | give me one non batshit reason that id ever choose to stay | Mar 20 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | And they all have public toilets. | Mar 20 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | So that's why I know where they are. | Mar 20 00:54 |
| MinceR | (as long as you don't mind also having no roads, no parking and no public transport) | Mar 20 00:54 |
| MinceR | matey: lol | Mar 20 00:54 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: I thought you hated the government telling people to put their poop in the sewer. You should be ecstatic that the government doesn't do that in SF | Mar 20 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | It might be mjg59_'s doing that there are driverless cars circling on a residential street that JWZ was complaining about, but I don't recall the name of the company that was responsible for that. | Mar 20 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Residents are complaining that it's dangerous and that their kids may get ran over, but the city is doing absolutely nothing because government. | Mar 20 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | All I do know is that this driverless car meme is a pest. | Mar 20 00:56 |
| matey | that song is probably banned in hungary | Mar 20 00:56 |
| matey | for not making it sound good enough | Mar 20 00:56 |
| chicksahoy | does DaemonFC have some sort of mental illness? | Mar 20 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if he did | Mar 20 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | would you exclude him for it? | Mar 20 00:58 |
| chicksahoy | no | Mar 20 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if you did, what would that say about you? | Mar 20 00:58 |
| chicksahoy | im just curious | Mar 20 00:58 |
| MinceR | hi just curious, i'm dad | Mar 20 00:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | he openly said he does have some conditions | Mar 20 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody really knows. | Mar 20 00:59 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: How should driverless car development happen? | Mar 20 00:59 |
| chicksahoy | that might explain all of his transphobia | Mar 20 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | They call it something else about every decade. | Mar 20 00:59 |
| immibis | or should it just be illegal to invent driverless cars? | Mar 20 00:59 |
| immibis | chicksahoy: definitely yes | Mar 20 00:59 |
| immibis | transphobia itself is a mental illness | Mar 20 00:59 |
| matey | there should be a bot like the altlink bot | Mar 20 00:59 |
| immibis | so is racism | Mar 20 00:59 |
| MinceR | develop an AGI smart enough to improve itself, then hand the job over to it | Mar 20 00:59 |
| chicksahoy | immibis: <3 | Mar 20 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> or should it just be illegal to invent driverless cars? | Mar 20 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | YES | Mar 20 01:00 |
| matey | but it runs s/black/deny/ on everything daemonfc says | Mar 20 01:00 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: should it be illegal to invent horseless carriages? | Mar 20 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i believe in freedom of speech | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | self-driving is BS | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | first, it's not new | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was doable before | Mar 20 01:00 |
| mjg59_ | (No it wasn't) | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | second, it's not good | Mar 20 01:00 |
| MinceR | lol @ s/black/deny/ | Mar 20 01:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Then Putin is your worst enemy. | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then there are the legal aspects | Mar 20 01:00 |
| immibis | matey: "Deny people seem to just let the fines pile up."? | Mar 20 01:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | just because you CAN do something does not mean you SHOULD | Mar 20 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | 1. It puts mjg59_ out of work for a while 2. The self-driving cars are so great that a pedestrian registers as a shopping bag and "Whoops, totally missed a parked police car.". | Mar 20 01:01 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: what do you think about trains? | Mar 20 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | self-driving? | Mar 20 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | there should be someone in there | Mar 20 01:01 |
| MinceR | trains are a lot easier to make self-driving | Mar 20 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for cockpit | Mar 20 01:01 |
| matey | redbot: s/black/deny/ Sat 22:08:06 │ 〖DaemonFC〗 │ Drop the deny people in on them. | Mar 20 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | So that puts the self-driving cars somewhere between your average Chicago driver (IQ 80) as the low anchor and me (never an at-fault accident). | Mar 20 01:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | today's flights are mostly automated, but there's still a captain or more | Mar 20 01:02 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: this seems like enforcing a minimum required amount of labour. Imagine if there was a law saying computers had to be people | Mar 20 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: we need Putin to counterbalance the west | Mar 20 01:02 |
| chicksahoy | DaemonFC: you'll never be at fault for riding a bike | Mar 20 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | since you know, the west also bans RT | Mar 20 01:02 |
| MinceR | flights have centralized control, so, again, that's a lot easier than cars | Mar 20 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | flights are less complex because of low plane density | Mar 20 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and more time to react | Mar 20 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | <chicksahoy> DaemonFC: you'll never be at fault for riding a bike | Mar 20 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: the west cancels people like me constantly | Mar 20 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | No, those are the people who die. | Mar 20 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | The state can't blame you if you're dead....usually. | Mar 20 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Russia banned practically all non-state owned media. | Mar 20 01:03 |
| MinceR | i thought that was the easiest condition to blame people in | Mar 20 01:03 |
| matey | since you know, the west also bans RT <- the west or google? | Mar 20 01:03 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: Are driverless transportation networks entirely off the table? | Mar 20 01:03 |
| MinceR | they can't defend themselves | Mar 20 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: in theory or in practice? | Mar 20 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | is Techrights banned in russia? | Mar 20 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It would have if it were in Russian. | Mar 20 01:04 |
| matey | "please help us translate this article to anything except russian" | Mar 20 01:04 |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: a successful driverless transportation network would be a massive improvement in real terms. | Mar 20 01:05 |
| schestowitz | train can be harder than planes https://www.ppronline.co.uk/blog/2021/09/the-main-types-of-jobs-in-rail | Mar 20 01:05 |
| immibis | and you just want to ban it? | Mar 20 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ppronline.co.uk | The main types of jobs in rail - PPR New | Mar 20 01:05 | |
| MinceR | can russians read ukrainian or belarusian? | Mar 20 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: what did techrights write that's so bad? | Mar 20 01:05 |
| matey | MinceR: some claim to, but i just look at the pictures | Mar 20 01:05 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freight_conductor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railway_industry_occupations | Mar 20 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Freight conductor - Wikipedia | Mar 20 01:06 | |
| MinceR | matey: are you russian? | Mar 20 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of railway industry occupations - Wikipedia | Mar 20 01:06 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The word "war" for one thing. | Mar 20 01:06 |
| matey | MinceR: no, thats why i look at the pictures (and cant tell if they can actually read it or not, i have to take their word) | Mar 20 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: With no prior exposure? Barely. | Mar 20 01:06 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 20 01:06 |
| immibis | it contains the word "software" instead of "softspecial military operatione" | Mar 20 01:06 |
| schestowitz | sanitised language does not help | Mar 20 01:06 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 01:06 |
| schestowitz | in Russia Putin pretends assault and invasion are peacekeeping | Mar 20 01:06 |
| matey | though i figure the "west" probably smuggled a few ukranian readers into russia, i just cant prove it | Mar 20 01:07 |
| schestowitz | and the sensitive fools would defend that | Mar 20 01:07 |
| schestowitz | because shelling an antenna is too much to take.... apparently | Mar 20 01:07 |
| immibis | it helps when you are pushing propaganda | Mar 20 01:07 |
| schestowitz | so we should warn people to not read what actually happens | Mar 20 01:07 |
| schestowitz | or battlezone cremations | Mar 20 01:07 |
| immibis | in the west you will be socially punished if you call it a peacekeeping operation to denazify ukraine | Mar 20 01:07 |
| immibis | for good reasons | Mar 20 01:07 |
| matey | shelling an antenna <- shelling or shilling? | Mar 20 01:08 |
| matey | shell shill for s shilling by the seashore | Mar 20 01:08 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: are you really sure it would ban techrights? | Mar 20 01:08 |
| matey | s shilling <- um, in spain | Mar 20 01:08 |
| schestowitz | shills saying that shelling a mere antenna can traumatise and thus we should self-censor | Mar 20 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | In Putin's Russia footage from Ukraine can put one in jail for discreditation of the Russian army. | Mar 20 01:08 |
| matey | techrights is already banned in certain parts of central america | Mar 20 01:08 |
| activelow | you know the meaning of Menschewiki and Bolschewiki? | Mar 20 01:08 |
| schestowitz | Russia merely "disabled" some antennda in Mariupol | Mar 20 01:08 |
| matey | they denylisted it | Mar 20 01:09 |
| schestowitz | "how did it disable them?" | Mar 20 01:09 |
| schestowitz | "don't ask, son" | Mar 20 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: If techrights were in Russian, absolutely. | Mar 20 01:09 |
| schestowitz | matey: is it banned anywhere? | Mar 20 01:09 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Yes, how is that in any way relevant? | Mar 20 01:09 |
| schestowitz | not that I know of... | Mar 20 01:09 |
| immibis | activelow: one is wikipedia for democrats (little d) and the other is wikipedia for people who enjoy blowing shit up? | Mar 20 01:10 |
| matey | schestowitz it could be shadowbanned | Mar 20 01:10 |
| activelow | der Mensch, german, is the Human; in Russian language the menschewik is the minority. | Mar 20 01:10 |
| schestowitz | shadowbanned? | Mar 20 01:10 |
| schestowitz | what does that mean outside of social control media? | Mar 20 01:10 |
| matey | schestowitz the alternative is admitting that reddit is worse than any part of central america, are we ready to say that? | Mar 20 01:10 |
| immibis | IRC is social control media | Mar 20 01:10 |
| schestowitz | the whole concept of shadowbanned relies on a filtering middleman | Mar 20 01:10 |
| schestowitz | in gulasg search the concept of shadowbanned does not exist | Mar 20 01:10 |
| immibis | a firewall is a filtering middleman | Mar 20 01:10 |
| schestowitz | just delisted or deranked | Mar 20 01:10 |
| immibis | an SSL interceptor is a filtering middleman | Mar 20 01:11 |
| matey | ddleman | Mar 20 01:11 |
| matey | #techrights : 03/20/22 01:10 <schestowitz> in gulasg search <- thats because its shadowbanned | Mar 20 01:11 |
| immibis | but nobody knows or cares about your blog, therefore they won't apply special measures to ensure it appears available | Mar 20 01:11 |
| matey | in stalinist russia the correct term is: | Mar 20 01:11 |
| matey | its | Mar 20 01:11 |
| matey | why cant i say | Mar 20 01:11 |
| schestowitz | IRC is... different | Mar 20 01:11 |
| schestowitz | social control media has "likes" and stuff | Mar 20 01:11 |
| MinceR | matey: spell it out | Mar 20 01:11 |
| schestowitz | IRC predates that | Mar 20 01:11 |
| MinceR | matey: or say it in Igpay Atinlay | Mar 20 01:12 |
| matey | T H E R E A R E FF OO UU RR L I G H T S ! | Mar 20 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: There was a schism in the Social Democratic Party of Russia, those were the two factions. | Mar 20 01:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 01:12 |
| schestowitz | democracy is relative | Mar 20 01:13 |
| schestowitz | a theoretic system | Mar 20 01:13 |
| schestowitz | no country ever fully implemented it | Mar 20 01:13 |
| activelow | democracy = bolschewism | Mar 20 01:13 |
| schestowitz | but at least they have some model system in mind | Mar 20 01:13 |
| matey | democracy = bolschewism <- you are priceless | Mar 20 01:13 |
| activelow | the english say, mob rule | Mar 20 01:13 |
| schestowitz | how weird a compatison... | Mar 20 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Ye are an idiot. | Mar 20 01:13 |
| schestowitz | democracy is not mob rule | Mar 20 01:14 |
| schestowitz | if properly followed (rare, maybe never existed), it would give indirect power to voters | Mar 20 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Congratulations. | Mar 20 01:14 |
| matey | <schestowitz> how weird a compatison <- a bolshevist would agree | Mar 20 01:14 |
| matey | with activelow actually | Mar 20 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Congress_of_the_Russian_Social_Democratic_Labour_Party read this. | Mar 20 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2nd Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party - Wikipedia | Mar 20 01:15 | |
| XRevan86 | And don't embarrass yourself further. | Mar 20 01:15 |
| chicksahoy | someone asks if daemon is mentally ill, and roy speaks up. if daemon acts transphobic, roy doesn't say anything. | Mar 20 01:15 |
| matey | roy has sufficient support from trans free software activists | Mar 20 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | > The congress voted 28–23 in Martov's favour but his support included the 7 Bundists and Economists who would later walk out. This left Lenin's faction in the majority so Lenin called his faction Bolshevik or majoritarian. Martov accepted this, calling his faction Menshevik or minoritarian. | Mar 20 01:16 |
| matey | i dont think anyone is going to get him for being a transphobe, and its not on my to-do list | Mar 20 01:16 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: Do ye understand? | Mar 20 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they should just from the site | Mar 20 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not IRC channel ANYONE can enter | Mar 20 01:17 |
| chicksahoy | matey: i don't think roy is a transphobe | Mar 20 01:17 |
| matey | chicksahoy: neither do i | Mar 20 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | Why would anyone even attempt to spread such nonsense when it's so easy to look upm | Mar 20 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, back on topic | Mar 20 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | too high a % of the chat here is about this totally unrelated thing | Mar 20 01:18 |
| MinceR | transphobe is when the 2 phobes are on the same plane but on opposing sides of the molecule | Mar 20 01:18 |
| XRevan86 | It's even available in English, I didn't have to translate anything from Russian. | Mar 20 01:18 |
| chicksahoy | schestowitz-TR: i was ender2070 | Mar 20 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | I do moderate some Matrix rooms. | Mar 20 01:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | chicksahoy: ah, hi. wb. | Mar 20 01:18 |
| chicksahoy | :) | Mar 20 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | And we've had a rather unpleasant man (I think.) named Aussie Pineapple or something. | Mar 20 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | you were on first ep of techbytes, iirc | Mar 20 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | episode 0 | Mar 20 01:19 |
| chicksahoy | yeah | Mar 20 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | back when fedora was a real community | Mar 20 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | with ambassadors, too | Mar 20 01:19 |
| chicksahoy | i still use fedora | Mar 20 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | He calls for trans people to be put to death and accuses the Jews of running various conspiracies and shit. | Mar 20 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I've banned him so many times I can't even really find anyone in particular on my room's banishment list anymore. | Mar 20 01:20 |
| chicksahoy | i dont think it was episode 0, there was no 0 | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | last year we muted someone in the channel for changing the subject to sexual things | Mar 20 01:20 |
| chicksahoy | episode 1 | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a method | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the discussion was NSA back doors, undermining security | Mar 20 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's typically two kinds that want trans people to die. Someone with the mentality of a 14 year old and Muslims. | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the next moment it becomes some "sex" thing | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | because of the people who help the NSA undermine security | Mar 20 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | So my guess is he's one or the other. | Mar 20 01:20 |
| chicksahoy | DaemonFC: :D | Mar 20 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | trying to change the debatew | Mar 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: we've moved on to other subjects | Mar 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | my disk seems to be rotting away | Mar 20 01:21 |
| matey | national sex agency | Mar 20 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | Matrix is a hotbed of fascism. | Mar 20 01:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to migrate all my critical tasks to another disk/surface | Mar 20 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | No matter how they "moderate it", it's more destructive than productive in my opinion. | Mar 20 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: back doors are good | Mar 20 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you don't agree, you are -ist | Mar 20 01:22 |
| MinceR | rogues do it from behind | Mar 20 01:22 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR thats what she said | Mar 20 01:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:27] <techrights-news> Sadly, when it comes to FB, I happen to be on the same side as Vladimir Putin. Look what you have done, Mark Zuckerberg! https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/14/russia_meta/ | Mar 20 01:22 |
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| DaemonFC | <MinceR> i thought that was the easiest condition to blame people in | Mar 20 01:22 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I never doubted that аctivelow is going for something stupid with that Bolshevik stuff. But it was still very underwhelming somehow. | Mar 20 01:23 |
| mjg59_ | matey: I don't think Roy's transphobic or racist in the slightest, but he tolerates a lot of it happening in spaces he controls | Mar 20 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Putin: platforms I don't like are "terror" something | Mar 20 01:23 |
| matey | mjg59_: he tolerates a lot of things, like people coming to chat in the middle of a lawsuit against him | Mar 20 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | In the US system, if criminal charges are pending and you die, they have to "nolle prosse" them which means you were never found guilty. Thanks to the charade of innocent until proven guilty, you were never alive to parade around in court and then (96% of the time) find guilty. | Mar 20 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | Therefore, legally innocent. | Mar 20 01:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | bbiab | Mar 20 01:24 |
| matey | which i cant comprehend, but unless someone explains the details its difficult to have an opinion (but not difficult to be curious) | Mar 20 01:24 |
| chicksahoy | mjg59_: to be fair, its a busy irc server and its probably hard to read everything | Mar 20 01:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: :) | Mar 20 01:25 |
| chicksahoy | mjg59_: he needs moderators that help fight against transphobia and racism | Mar 20 01:25 |
| matey | /me blames everything on mincer | Mar 20 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Nazi People's Court had about the same conviction rate, oddly enough, as US courts. And the Nazi People's Court was specifically set up to find people guilty who couldn't easily be convicted under rule of law. | Mar 20 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | So if you think there's any sort of fairness in a US courtroom, think again. | Mar 20 01:26 |
| chicksahoy | i use irssi and its a huge pain in the ass to look at history | Mar 20 01:26 |
| matey | log and use an editor? | Mar 20 01:27 |
| MinceR | or use less | Mar 20 01:27 |
| MinceR | (on log files) | Mar 20 01:27 |
| chicksahoy | i could use log files but i don't feel right logging everything | Mar 20 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Also amusingly, the US courts manage the same conviction rate as the Nazi People's Court even though victims of the Nazi court had no rights at all, even to a lawyer, and had usually been tortured into confessing, and the state never pretended anything else happened. | Mar 20 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's amazing. | Mar 20 01:28 |
| matey | maybe write a bot to log selectively | Mar 20 01:28 |
| matey | of course in here, there are more log options than you can imagine | Mar 20 01:28 |
| matey | so you dont even have to log anything | Mar 20 01:28 |
| matey | unless you dont trust the logs | Mar 20 01:29 |
| chicksahoy | fair enough | Mar 20 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I know why the prisons are full in America. | Mar 20 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's because the courts are an illusion. | Mar 20 01:29 |
| chicksahoy | its not that i dont trust logs, i just value privacy | Mar 20 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Shh! | Mar 20 01:29 |
| matey | everything here is logged | Mar 20 01:29 |
| matey | back to 2008 | Mar 20 01:29 |
| chicksahoy | i know | Mar 20 01:29 |
| matey | ok | Mar 20 01:29 |
| chicksahoy | i was probably here back in 2008 | Mar 20 01:30 |
| XRevan86 | chicksahoy: Different nickname? | Mar 20 01:30 |
| chicksahoy | yeah | Mar 20 01:30 |
| chicksahoy | ender2070 | Mar 20 01:30 |
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| DaemonFC | The courts here are not courts of fact. I speak from experience. The judges and prosecutors don't give a damn what happened. The police lie, and it's evidence. | Mar 20 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | And you hire a lawyer and it's not a fact-finding mission, but what kind of motions you can file and things like that. | Mar 20 01:31 |
| chicksahoy | prurigro recommended I come back | Mar 20 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I also have witnessed them give unfair trials to other people, ignore exculpatory evidence, convict them, and send them to prison. | Mar 20 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | It happened to family members even. | Mar 20 01:32 |
| chicksahoy | one of the few people i remember back in the day was DaemonFC | Mar 20 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: If ye admit that ye are very misinformed on the meanings of words, I will take back my insult. | Mar 20 01:32 |
| chicksahoy | DaemonFC has always been racist | Mar 20 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | My cousin's husband ignored the rule of "Never be alone in a room with a woman (who isn't your wife)" rule. | Mar 20 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | He was alone in a room with his ex-wife and she got pissed and then told the cops he molested their daughter, coached the daughter into what to say to CPS, and then had the police arrest him. | Mar 20 01:33 |
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| DaemonFC | When it got to court, nobody cared how credible she was, he wasn't allowed to confront his accuser "because it was a child", and then his attorney was a big fat crook who took it in front of a jury because those are more expensive. | Mar 20 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | And they heard "child" and threw the book at him. | Mar 20 01:34 |
| chicksahoy | right | Mar 20 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have dealings with anyone when there would be children around. And witnessing that shit is largely why. | Mar 20 01:36 |
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| DaemonFC | Welp, there it goes again, but everything else I have works, so it may just be the VPN server being crap. | Mar 20 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | I switched to the Netherlands server. | Mar 20 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Anyway, I just don't trust women fully. I doubt I ever will. | Mar 20 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen too many reasons not to. | Mar 20 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's not that you can necessarily trust men but they don't tend to have this bitter vindictive burn you to the ground sort of willingness to corrupt the system. | Mar 20 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | If they want to cheat on you and move out, they will. | Mar 20 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | If they want to run off to the police and say you hit them, they will (although it happens to straight men too and we all know the state cares more when a woman is an alleged victim). | Mar 20 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | But I've never seen the level of vindictive spitefulness I've seen women engage in. | Mar 20 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the worst it gets on a 10 point scale is a 3 or a 4 with a man, but a woman will dial it up to 11. | Mar 20 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | <chicksahoy> DaemonFC has always been racist | Mar 20 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | A lot of things, actually. | Mar 20 01:43 |
| matey | saturday is links day at techrights | Mar 20 01:43 |
| matey | we have logs, we have links. and we have links, but there are also more links | Mar 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | but do we have rechts? | Mar 20 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose the point where I said "Never again." in trust for women was probably age 15 when after mom cheated on dad and tore down the marriage, she went to court and dragged it out from 1999 to 2013. | Mar 20 01:44 |
| matey | we have mjg59_ | Mar 20 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | Fighting him for the goddamned paper plates. | Mar 20 01:44 |
| matey | techrechts? | Mar 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | I see a lot of people do THAT though. | Mar 20 01:45 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: they are specifically looking for people to be criminals, yet black people are actual criminals (according to you) and get a free pass? | Mar 20 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Pay a lawyer $600 an hour never getting 10% out of their victim what they paid to go to court. | Mar 20 01:46 |
| matey | when romans wanted rights, they pulled them out of their rechtum | Mar 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | <immibis> DaemonFC: they are specifically looking for people to be criminals, yet black people are actual criminals (according to you) and get a free pass? | Mar 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't say there was no real crime. | Mar 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | The police aren't allowed to touch that anymore. | Mar 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | So they go after white people. | Mar 20 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | To invent crimes. Then they pretend to solve them. And then the courts pretend to be courts. | Mar 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | You get the idea. | Mar 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of pretending. | Mar 20 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Then you get clueless Europeans who are lucky enough not to have to witness any of this shit going "What the fuck is wrong with that guy?". | Mar 20 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 20 01:48 |
| matey | /me wonders why latin wasnt called roman, and imagines it was something to do with windows charsets of the day | Mar 20 01:49 |
| matey | centurian! defenetrate him immediately! | Mar 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Because Roman is an app you open to get pills to treat your erectile dysfunction and STDs. | Mar 20 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Therefore, it is copyrighted. | Mar 20 01:49 |
| matey | "i sorry sir, im having trouble rending your text" | Mar 20 01:50 |
| matey | stone dome keyboards are notoriously unreliable as well | Mar 20 01:50 |
| matey | you need a chisel just to get the key down sometimes | Mar 20 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | The US healthcare system is so shitty that you have people drawing their own blood at home to see if they have Syphilis, and mailing it off to an app company to see if they can get pills for that. | Mar 20 01:51 |
| matey | they thought they were clever when they switched to lead domes because its softer than marble | Mar 20 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft had a GPS app patent called "Avoid Ghetto". | Mar 20 01:51 |
| matey | but lead is a conductor, and all they did was short out the keyboard port | Mar 20 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Now they tell us we have to patch out all instances of "black" everywhere we see them. | Mar 20 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Shit. | Mar 20 01:53 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: come on | Mar 20 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | The upstairs neighbors are blasting their stereo. | Mar 20 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | cRap music. | Mar 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | you keep getting back to that topic | Mar 20 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | do you want to read my draft? | Mar 20 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Mar 20 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | I had to go get my earplugs. | Mar 20 01:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/social-control-media-not-missed/ | Mar 20 01:55 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Mar 20 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Life After Social Control Media: A Fortnight Later | Techrights | Mar 20 01:55 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if I can retaliate with my classical music collection. | Mar 20 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Looks okay. | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | glad to see twitter dying in a few years | Mar 20 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I switched to reusable earplugs. Just have to wash them occasionally. | Mar 20 01:58 |
| matey | bought out | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to urge more people to quit | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and to tell others to follow | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | FB is already losing | Mar 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | despite trying to expand, e.g. in Africa | Mar 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | I can't stand that crap. It's awful. It's intolerable. It's like those nasty cigarettes that people get "somewhere" then it finds its way into your apartment. | Mar 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | their "growth" was mostly by infiltrating "new markets" | Mar 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | The same people listening to the cRap music upstairs were the ones gassing us with cheap cigars. | Mar 20 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | Until I taped off the ventilation duct for the bathroom fan. | Mar 20 01:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | now back to tech | Mar 20 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | I gew up on rap and hiphop | Mar 20 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | the quality of the rap got worse | Mar 20 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheaper to make, worse production budgets | Mar 20 02:00 |
| matey | plus mumblerap | Mar 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | higher-budget rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlVYBH3DLIw | Mar 20 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OlVYBH3DLIw | Mar 20 02:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Mase Feat. Blackstreet - Get Ready (Official Music Video) - Invidious | Mar 20 02:01 | |
| schestowitz | they used to have instrumental bands and stuff | Mar 20 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | They figured out that there was no need to appeal to intellect and optimized their investment. | Mar 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | now it's just studio and samples | Mar 20 02:01 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▅▁▂▆▅▄▅▁▂▅▆▇▁▂▃▄█▆▅▂▃▅▃▄▅▆▆▅▄▅▆▇▅▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 27.71 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁█▂▂▁▁█▁▂█▁▃▁▃▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 20.05▕ swarm size (avg): 279.31 ⟲ | Mar 20 02:01 |
| schestowitz | the copyrght cartel did the same to pop btw | Mar 20 02:01 |
| matey | you could do it with 2 turntables and a microphone | Mar 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | some dude or gal with a guitar | Mar 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty much. | Mar 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | ed sheeran or taylor swift | Mar 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz | absolutely awful tunes | Mar 20 02:02 |
| matey | just bs sure to turn up your system | Mar 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Now you pay recurring fees to stream a back catalog. | Mar 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Which is bullshit. | Mar 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | you keep nothing | Mar 20 02:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still use CDs I had as a kid | Mar 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | The fee keeps going up to access something you already had before. | Mar 20 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Just so it won't go away. | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | you said netflix doubled in price in 5 years | Mar 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | YES! | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could barely believe that | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | todday I read about gulag fee hikes | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | last month aws | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | all that clown computing bubble | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag clown loses TONS of money | Mar 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, $11.99 for Ultra HD to $19.99. Then everything else doubled too. | Mar 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's $9.99 a month for one screen in SD now. | Mar 20 02:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | Azure hides it but lays off staff, so you can guess where that's going.. | Mar 20 02:03 |
| matey | or taylor swift <- willow is ok | Mar 20 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Which is what it used to be for 1080p and 2 screens. | Mar 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and Russians now complain that clown computing is risky | Mar 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I hope more nations will heed the warning | Mar 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | SaaaaaaaS... | Mar 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, they have "two months" before they run out of storage and nothing works anymore. LOL | Mar 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Speaking of Software from an aaS..... | Mar 20 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Where did Matt go? | Mar 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | FSF calls it SaaSS | Mar 20 02:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | software substitute | Mar 20 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | which is accurate | Mar 20 02:05 |
| matey | SaaOS | Mar 20 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't give you software | Mar 20 02:05 |
| matey | systemd as an operating system | Mar 20 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | they give you some login screens | Mar 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's not accurate if it has "service" in it. | Mar 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a service for you. | Mar 20 02:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and as soon as you start paying or as soon as your dictator (Putin) decides to invade the nighbour, no more login to 'your' data and 'your' software | Mar 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The gig economy collapses next. | Mar 20 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | Guess what happens with Uber Eats and GrubHub. | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | uber is one example | Mar 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | With gas costing double what it did before Biden. | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, beat me to it | Mar 20 02:06 |
| matey | or as soon as downloading youtube is "unethical" | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | re uber | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, gulagtube | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | vimeo | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | you heard what vimeo did, right? | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | so much for an "alternative" | Mar 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | They still exist? | Mar 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | No, what did they do? | Mar 20 02:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | pay us $10,000 or we delete all your videos... | Mar 20 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "enjoy, losers" | Mar 20 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | $10,000 by Monday or the videos get it! | Mar 20 02:07 |
| matey | /me whispers to daemonfc that chelsea clinton was on the board of vimeo | Mar 20 02:07 |
| matey | its true | Mar 20 02:07 |
| matey | he might have known this already | Mar 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just that | Mar 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | was wickr the other one? | Mar 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | some 'privacy' thing | Mar 20 02:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's fake privacy | Mar 20 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Her mom was on all kinds of "boards" as useless fluff. It's how they slip bribes and say you're employed there. | Mar 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, wait | Mar 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am conflating chelsea clintona dn manning | Mar 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry | Mar 20 02:08 |
| matey | never heard of wickr | Mar 20 02:08 |
| matey | its amazon now | Mar 20 02:08 |
| matey | chelsea clintona dn manning <- opposite ends of the | Mar 20 02:08 |
| matey | reasonable mistake, but very big | Mar 20 02:09 |
| matey | difference | Mar 20 02:09 |
| matey | thats the problem with names i guess | Mar 20 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, They call it a "tech economy" but all it really is, is a dystopia. You have apps "facilitating" all sorts of sketchy interactions that they want no direct liability for. | Mar 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | chelsea in the uk is not synonymous with putin | Mar 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | *now | Mar 20 02:09 |
| matey | i cant imagine what level of bullshit would conflate the two | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: "here, roy, have $50,000,000" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "hire a bunch of staff" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "get some code from somewhere..."" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| matey | one is a whistleblower the other murders whistleblowers | Mar 20 02:10 |
| matey | but okay | Mar 20 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Grindr has patents. | Mar 20 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | They list 7 patents on their app. | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "start enticing people with 'free' stuff... operate at a loss" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "collect as much data as possible" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "no need to profit" | Mar 20 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | How does a gay fuck app have 7 patents? Patents on what? | Mar 20 02:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "love, Wall Street" | Mar 20 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's at least 6 more just like them on the app store. | Mar 20 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | So what patents? | Mar 20 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Saudi Arabia doesn't block Grindr. | Mar 20 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | The cops use it to locate gay men so they can kill them. | Mar 20 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Seems Grindr is trying to make money now by selling their patents to a patent troll. | Mar 20 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | 2020-06-11 | Mar 20 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Assigned to FORTRESS CREDIT CORP | Mar 20 02:14 |
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| schestowitz-TR | fortress is a well known troll | Mar 20 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | This patent is garbage. | Mar 20 02:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22fortress+ip%22&sa=Google+%E2%80%BA&sitesearch=techrights.org&client=pub-2479740519054892&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23999999%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A999999%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A999999%3BALC%3A666666%3BLC%3A666666%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A333333%3BGIMP%3A333333%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2Ftechrights-search.png%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F% | Mar 20 02:17 |
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| schestowitz | 2Fschestowitz.com%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en | Mar 20 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Grindr is attempting to patent the EXACT way their app works, in total. | Mar 20 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Which nobody else would do, obviously. | Mar 20 02:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: so maybe they lack a business model | Mar 20 02:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | other than making databases of gay people | Mar 20 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and their f*ing historu | Mar 20 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and trying to monopolisse that domain | Mar 20 02:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | so no foreign company like tiktok would do the same | Mar 20 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Steven Fry gave them a free commercial. | Mar 20 02:20 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/epo-another-brick-in-the-wall/ | Mar 20 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2 More Days Until EPO Strike, Examiners Unwilling to Become Another Brick in the Wall | Techrights | Mar 20 02:25 | |
| schestowitz | typos? | Mar 20 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.peoplesparity.org/consumer-rights-activists-target-grindrs-new-forced-arbitration-agreement/ | Mar 20 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.peoplesparity.org | Consumer Rights Activists Target Grindr’s New Forced Arbitration Agreement | People's Parity Project | Mar 20 02:25 | |
| schestowitz | anyway, patents are granted by default | Mar 20 02:25 |
| schestowitz | if you cannot prove they should be rejected | Mar 20 02:25 |
| techrights-news | 2 More Days Until EPO Strike, Examiners Unwilling to Become Another Brick in the Wall | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/epo-another-brick-in-the-wall/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/19/epo-another-brick-in-the-wall/ | Mar 20 02:26 |
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| DaemonFC | <schestowitz> if you cannot prove they should be rejected | Mar 20 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously. | Mar 20 02:39 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they seem to work, | Mar 20 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's not a tidy thing | Mar 20 02:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they grab tons of stuff with them | Mar 20 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to figure out how to move thunderbird out of this machine | Mar 20 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | to evacuate about 30 GB of it | Mar 20 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | old mail folders | Mar 20 02:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | this drive is considered in a bad state, can silently corrupt data | Mar 20 02:45 |
| schestowitz | Mar 20 02:40:39 vonick kernel: [212546.988846] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: AER: Corrected error received: 0000:00:1c.3 | Mar 20 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Mar 20 02:40:39 vonick kernel: [212546.988872] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Corrected, type=Physical Layer, (Receiver ID) | Mar 20 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Mar 20 02:40:39 vonick kernel: [212546.988888] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: device [8086:9d13] error status/mask=00000001/00002000 | Mar 20 02:46 |
| schestowitz | Mar 20 02:40:39 vonick kernel: [212546.988898] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: [ 0] RxErr (First) | Mar 20 02:46 |
| techrights-news | 4 more active Gemini capsules to reach 1,800 in Lupa gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Mar 20 02:48 |
| techrights-news | OE and woofQ tarballs for EasyOS 3.4.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162725#comment-33114 | Mar 20 02:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.3 | Tux Machines | Mar 20 02:51 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/169021-john-carmack-thinks-the-steam-machines-biggest-problem-is-linux | Mar 20 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-John Carmack thinks the Steam Machine's biggest problem is Linux - ExtremeTech | Mar 20 02:52 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Mar 20 02:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | old news? | Mar 20 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | The Steam Machine's problem was multiple vendors, multiple specs, and a really really hacked up Debian that they never maintained. | Mar 20 02:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | timbl thinks the issue with the www is, | Mar 20 02:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | not enough JS and shithub ;-) | Mar 20 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | And now they removed Debian as the basis after they fucked it all to hell. | Mar 20 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | And inserted Arch,. | Mar 20 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure that's working out swell. | Mar 20 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | I removed a lot of bloat from my Debian installation. | Mar 20 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly input methods and other internationalization and foreign language crap I'm never going to use. | Mar 20 02:54 |
| techrights-news | Social Control Media is a fad and a bubble; it gives a wrong/false sense of its importance; in the long run, the world won’t be shaped by it (even Donald Trump has had all of his ‘tweets’ permanently purged), it’ll just become more divisive, at least temporarily http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/social-control-media-not-missed/ | Mar 20 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Life After Social Control Media: A Fortnight Later | Techrights | Mar 20 02:54 | |
| techrights-news | Techrights warmly supports and understands EPO staff that wishes to do the job properly, and becoming a semi-automatic machine isn’t the job http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/epo-another-brick-in-the-wall/ | Mar 20 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2 More Days Until EPO Strike, Examiners Unwilling to Become Another Brick in the Wall | Techrights | Mar 20 02:54 | |
| DaemonFC | The Live ISO I guess can be forgiven for shipping with all of that since they have no idea where you would use Debian or who you are. | Mar 20 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | BUT.... | Mar 20 02:54 |
| techrights-news | McCoy Smith on What Software Patents Mean to Free Software (2020) http://techrights.org/2022/03/19/swpats-free-software/ | Mar 20 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | McCoy Smith on What Software Patents Mean to Free Software (2020) | Techrights | Mar 20 02:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Every other distribution asks, then removes the unused bits at the end of the installation process. | Mar 20 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/ti7bv3/instagram_accidentally_being_profound/ | Mar 20 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Instagram accidentally being profound : LateStageCapitalism | Mar 20 02:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | reddit = shit | Mar 20 02:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | some people are fooled into thinking it's a revolutioonary thing | Mar 20 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | they even ban/shadowban systemd critics | Mar 20 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | while the patent company, conde nast, works closely with ICBM | Mar 20 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | *parent | Mar 20 02:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow, I really don't know how to best handle a migration out of this failing box | Mar 20 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | or drive | Mar 20 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe permanently connected external drive | Mar 20 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | one physical drive for OS | Mar 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | one for data | Mar 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | does that even make sense, like... has anyone tried that? | Mar 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | partitioning is not of use | Mar 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | when one disk may be flaky | Mar 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | if the OS breaks, fine | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the data cannot be "reinstalled" | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Available Spare: 100% | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Available Spare Threshold: 5% | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Percentage Used: 111% | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Data Units Read: 81,242,467 [41.5 TB] | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Data Units Written: 167,408,714 [85.7 TB] | Mar 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I could do it the NAS way | Mar 20 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | and work on critical stuff over the LAN | Mar 20 03:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | thunderbird won't be happy with remote .thunderbird | Mar 20 03:03 |
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| DaemonFC | Azure advertisements on Sourceforge. | Mar 20 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | This truly is the circle that Dante didn't explore. | Mar 20 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, They mirror projects that don't choose to host there now. | Mar 20 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, that's nice. | Mar 20 03:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | hmmm... | Mar 20 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | An ad for VxWorks...... | Mar 20 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | (an embedded OS that Cisco replaced Linux with after the GPL lawsuit) | Mar 20 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | I remember running "VxWorks Killer" on my WRT54G. | Mar 20 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | Then when it thought it was bricked, it allowed you to upload a replacement firmware using tftp. | Mar 20 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | I remember doing this and going "I hope this works. I just bought this stupid thing at Walmart.". | Mar 20 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | gemini://rawtext.club/~sloum/geminews/npr/current/6.gmi | Mar 20 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | Daylight Savings Time, whereby a country that allows people to drive 6 mpg pickup trucks to Walmart for groceries and leave them idling in the lot tries to save 0.5% on electricity by making people constantly adjust clocks, leading to car accidents and strokes. | Mar 20 03:35 |
| matey | maybe theyll fix it and make it permanent | Mar 20 03:36 |
| matey | "quit messing with the clocks or theyll get stuck that way" | Mar 20 03:36 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmYTPvdifyTSUV9CuZ5gpuZVC7pHshJvZhZ5niheQb2vzE | Mar 20 03:36 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Mar 20 03:36 |
| matey | i dont know what it says about humanity that you cant fix daylight stupid time without permanently making everything 1 hour later, but i bet it has "stupid" in it | Mar 20 03:37 |
| matey | be glad they dont make people change calendar systems twice a year | Mar 20 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it causes many bugs | Mar 20 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and even if it does not | Mar 20 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it increases development time | Mar 20 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | or maintenance tasks | Mar 20 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for leap years etc. | Mar 20 03:39 |
| matey | "remember this sunday to skip straight to tuesday at midnight" | Mar 20 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have a very suboptimal time systemd | Mar 20 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like my notes, very messy | Mar 20 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am trying to make them tidier overnight today | Mar 20 03:39 |
| matey | we have a very suboptimal time systemd <- thats another thing | Mar 20 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | just separated whistleblower notes rom my main working text files | Mar 20 03:39 |
| matey | in the future when young geeks are talking to old geeks | Mar 20 03:40 |
| MinceR | 20 043700 < matey> i dont know what it says about humanity that you cant fix daylight stupid time without permanently making everything 1 hour later, but i bet it has "stupid" in it | Mar 20 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | need to put these on another machine | Mar 20 03:40 |
| MinceR | you can | Mar 20 03:40 |
| matey | theyll wonder why cant spell system | Mar 20 03:40 |
| MinceR | it's just that people are too stupid to understand what permanent DST means | Mar 20 03:40 |
| matey | <MinceR> you can <- i dislike dst so much im willing to move to a country that doesnt have it | Mar 20 03:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 20 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | ha | Mar 20 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | reason for naturalisation? no dns | Mar 20 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | dst | Mar 20 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | AND DNS | Mar 20 03:41 |
| matey | dns is just as broken as dst | Mar 20 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, it's a 'phonebook' that the US control | Mar 20 03:41 |
| matey | what about other regions? asin and that sort of thing | Mar 20 03:41 |
| matey | "they can break up dns into other regions but its still asin-ine" | Mar 20 03:42 |
| matey | i meant arin though | Mar 20 03:42 |
| *DaemonFC installs NewDotNet on schestowitz-TR's computer and runs off. | Mar 20 03:42 | |
| matey | asin is some amazon thing. ruins the joke too. | Mar 20 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | Remember NewDotNet? | Mar 20 03:43 |
| matey | actually makes a whole new joke possible. | Mar 20 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | It was a browser hijacker? | Mar 20 03:43 |
| matey | not to be confused with gnunet | Mar 20 03:43 |
| matey | which stands for gnunets not newdotnet | Mar 20 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | It slipped into Windows and hooked the DNS resolver and added top level domains that didn't really exist, and you could buy those from NewDotNet and people with hijacked Windows computers could visit your site. | Mar 20 03:44 |
| matey | so its like dns scalping | Mar 20 03:44 |
| matey | also known as dns | Mar 20 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | I remember dad accidentally installed it and I had to dig it back out of his Windows 98 computer. | Mar 20 03:44 |
| matey | /me wonders if wine supports that level of fuckery | Mar 20 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't. | Mar 20 03:45 |
| darwin | Moonchild and Binary Outcast (Captain Tobin, BinOC) of Pale Moon had a split so people are worrying about one of the last good web browsers and BinOC projects like Interlink, one of the last good desktop email clients | Mar 20 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | NewDotNet only worked on Windows 9x as a kernel-mode driver. | Mar 20 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | When installed on Windows NT/2000/XP, it would install as an Internet Explorer Browser Helper Object (ActiveX). | Mar 20 03:46 |
| matey | Moonchild and Binary Outcast (Captain Tobin, BinOC) of Pale Moon had a split <- my guess is that moonchild decided that captain tobin was a "security or stability threat" like everything else he doesnt like | Mar 20 03:46 |
| matey | to be fair, every feature that isnt a security or stability threat in windows gets flagged and quarantined as suspicious by windows dumbfender | Mar 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | hmmm... gimp (gtk) cannot open files from remote machine | Mar 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can fetch over the web, but not over ssh it seems | Mar 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, unless... | Mar 20 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | You want to install LibreOffice? MALWARE MALWARE! ALERT! MALWARE! MAN OVERBOARD! ABANDON SHIP! HIDE YOUR DAUGHTERS! -Windows Defender | Mar 20 03:47 |
| matey | gnomedotnet, the horrible sequel | Mar 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe I can do it via dolphin/filem managers with IOslave | Mar 20 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | kio | Mar 20 03:47 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, this RAT and that Cryptominer are fine. -Also Windows Defender | Mar 20 03:48 |
| matey | HIDE YOUR DAUGHTERS! -Windows Defender <- generally good advice for anyone doing business with microsoft | Mar 20 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, with Bill it's probably hide your son. | Mar 20 03:48 |
| schestowitz | GIMP Message | Mar 20 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | And hide him well if he's under 6. | Mar 20 03:48 |
| matey | oof | Mar 20 03:48 |
| schestowitz | "Location is not mountable" | Mar 20 03:48 |
| DaemonFC | Bill's engineer liked young boys more, it seems. | Mar 20 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | And after age 12, his interest really dropped off. | Mar 20 03:49 |
| MinceR | hide your kids, hide your wife, 'cause they're rapin' everybody out there... | Mar 20 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Arrested in the Gates Mansion. | Mar 20 03:49 |
| matey | i seem to recall | Mar 20 03:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe if mounted as virtual drive over ssh(fs) | Mar 20 03:49 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw | Mar 20 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw | Mar 20 03:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | BED INTRUDER SONG!!! - Invidious | Mar 20 03:50 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/01/03/sick-kinks-balabhadra-alex-graveley/ | Mar 20 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Exposé — Part XIII — Nihilistic Death Cults With Substance Abuse and Sick Kinks | Techrights | Mar 20 03:50 | |
| DaemonFC | Mandy's friend at work was asking me if he'd get in legal trouble over dating a 17 year old. I said, "Well, there's some misdemeanors they could throw at you if they wanted to. Some people might find it a little bit creepy.". | Mar 20 03:50 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/github-copilot-stories.png | Mar 20 03:50 |
| schestowitz | chief of github copilot | Mar 20 03:50 |
| schestowitz | re gimp, i'll need to deal with local files on a flaky HD | Mar 20 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Off the top of my head, they'll get you with whatever they can. Trespassing, traveling to meet a minor, disorderly conduct, and contributing to the delinquency are all popular. | Mar 20 03:52 |
| matey | and you dont want to copy them first? | Mar 20 03:52 |
| schestowitz | same for uploads, but I guess I can periodically store them away on a better drive | Mar 20 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | None of them are sex crimes even if they're the age of consent. | Mar 20 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | The state has a million ways to get you no matter what you do if it wants you bad enough. | Mar 20 03:52 |
| DaemonFC | Disorderly Conduct is a "contempt of cop" offense. | Mar 20 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's usually worded like, "Whoever causes a disturbance, nuisance, annoyance, or engages in any conduct that could alarm a reasonable person or engages in fighting or tumultuous conduct or fails to follow a police order has committed Disorderly Conduct.". | Mar 20 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | So at this point, it's like what _can't_ Disorderly Conduct be? | Mar 20 03:54 |
| DaemonFC | But they got me with it and I ate a shit sandwich and grinned because the alternative was worse. | Mar 20 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | A drumhead in a kangaroo court. | Mar 20 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | You see cops around here adding disorderly conduct to everything. | Mar 20 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | Just because they can. | Mar 20 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Anyway, back to top level domains. | Mar 20 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | With all of these ones they have now it's like Revenge of NewDotNet. | Mar 20 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | There's even a .google | Mar 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | i cannot respond well atm | Mar 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | too many things to think about all at once | Mar 20 03:57 |
| DaemonFC | If they ever go out of business, that'll age well won't it? | Mar 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am offloading processes and files to other machines, very lateral thinking | Mar 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | sourceforge is not credible | Mar 20 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | all outsourcing it risky | Mar 20 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | they lack a business model | Mar 20 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | self-hosting is not expecsive | Mar 20 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what schools ought to teach | Mar 20 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of clown stuff | Mar 20 03:58 |
| DaemonFC | Legal controversy | Mar 20 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | NewDotNet has been implicated as the cause[8] of a controversial 2007 criminal trial which received international media coverage.[9][10] In State of Connecticut v. Julie Amero, a substitute teacher was arrested after students in her 7th Grade class reported that they had seen pornographic images on her computer screen. Amero said the computer would not stop sending pop-ups and that she did not know what to do with the computer. | Mar 20 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | Amero was convicted on four counts of risk of injury to a minor, or impairing the morals of a child, and faced up to 40 years in prison. The state Supreme Court overturned the conviction and ordered a new trial, but Amero instead pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of disorderly conduct and had her Connecticut teaching credentials revoked.[11] A subsequent forensic analysis revealed that the uncontrollable pornographic popups were propagated by | Mar 20 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | NewDotNet.[8] | Mar 20 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://web.archive.org/web/20081202115647/http://blogs.courant.com/rick_green/2008/11/connecticut-drops-felony-charg.html | Mar 20 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Connecticut drops felony charges against Julie Amero, four years after her arrest - Rick Green | CT Confidential | Mar 20 04:01 | |
| DaemonFC | "Amero agreed to plead guilty to a single charge of disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor. Amero, who has been hospitalized and suffers from declining health, also surrendered her teaching license. | Mar 20 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh honey, it's over. I feel wonderful," Amero, 41, said a few minutes after accepting the deal where she also had to surrender her teaching license. "The Norwich police made a mistake. It was proven. That makes me feel like I'm on top of the world." | Mar 20 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | In June of 2007, Judge Hillary B. Strackbein tossed out Amero's conviction on charges that she intentionally caused a stream of "pop-up" pornography on the computer in her classroom and allowed students to view it. Confronted with evidence compiled by forensic computer experts, Strackbein ordered a new trial, saying the conviction was based on "erroneous" and "false information." | Mar 20 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | But since that dramatic reversal, local officials, police and state prosecutors were unwilling to admit that a mistake may have been made -- even after computer experts from around the country demonstrated that Amero's computer had been infected by "spyware."" | Mar 20 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Windows TCO | Mar 20 04:01 |
| DaemonFC | 40 years to life | Mar 20 04:01 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 19, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Mar 20 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Mar 20 04:06 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Mar 20 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Mar 20 04:06 | |
| schestowitz | heh, rms-2013-talk-notes.txt still lying around | Mar 20 04:07 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I saw more blurbs go by about the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children unmasking an internet perv. | Mar 20 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | "an unnamed Internet Service Provider reported him" | Mar 20 04:24 |
| DaemonFC | Seems to always be the operative phrasing. | Mar 20 04:25 |
| gooseheaded | https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf | Mar 20 04:28 |
| gooseheaded | ;-) | Mar 20 04:28 |
| gooseheaded | myh research publication!!! | Mar 20 04:28 |
| gooseheaded | wai | Mar 20 04:28 |
| gooseheaded | https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357700451_The_NOTES | Mar 20 04:28 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: researchgate.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357700451_The_NOTES | Mar 20 04:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.researchgate.net | (PDF) The NOTES! | Mar 20 04:28 | |
| gooseheaded | ;-) | Mar 20 04:28 |
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| gooseheaded | it is that i posted it onto like researchGATE!!! | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | haha | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | ;-) | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | "[my] paper was the most read article from your department!!!" | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | ajjaa | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | no | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | shit | Mar 20 04:29 |
| gooseheaded | haha | Mar 20 04:29 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/nearly-1-6m-illinois-facebook-users-to-receive-397-check-soon-after-appeals-court-upholds-privacy-settlement | Mar 20 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Nearly 1.6M Illinois Facebook users to receive $397 check soon after appeals court upholds privacy settlement | Mar 20 04:36 | |
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| psydruid | > Now instability in Europe, now that makes people worried. | Mar 20 05:08 |
| psydruid | Not everyone may be as worried about that as it may look either. | Mar 20 05:08 |
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| matey | hail to the king | Mar 20 05:50 |
| kingoffrance | "Draugr OS...Does it come with Dragon Priests too" havent used it, but im interested now | Mar 20 06:04 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▅▅▃▃▄▅▂▇▄▇▆▃▁▆▇▅▅▄▆▆▁▂▄▆▅▄▅▅▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁█▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂██▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 26.58▕ swarm size (avg): 279.45 ⟲ | Mar 20 06:05 |
| matey | a gnu/linux with a "terms of service", great | Mar 20 06:08 |
| matey | Follow us online | Mar 20 06:09 |
| matey | Discord Telegramdiscord and telegram | Mar 20 06:09 |
| matey | theyre trying to make a game console under $1000, meanwhile they have suspended draugr on arm "indefinitely" | Mar 20 06:11 |
| matey | so their under-$1000 console will presumably be x86 based | Mar 20 06:11 |
| matey | and theyre making a desktop environment | Mar 20 06:12 |
| matey | "in VERY EARLY alpha stages. Most planned functionality is not yet available" | Mar 20 06:12 |
| matey | and to top it all off, the lead developer is an anti-rms backstabber | Mar 20 06:13 |
| matey | more to the point, linux has no future | Mar 20 06:13 |
| matey | therefore gnu/linux has no future | Mar 20 06:14 |
| matey | because gnu has foolishly tied itself to a backstabber pretender to the throne of a kernel | Mar 20 06:14 |
| matey | why bother being compatible with other kernels, when you can chase syst-ibm-d while it chases its tail? | Mar 20 06:15 |
| matey | so everything gnu is linux and everything linux is microsoft | Mar 20 06:15 |
| matey | lets buy an intel console | Mar 20 06:15 |
| matey | https://github.com/drauger-os-development | Mar 20 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drauger OS Development · GitHub | Mar 20 06:19 | |
| matey | gnu: free software gives you control of your computing, gnu is free software | Mar 20 06:20 |
| matey | also gnu: we are surrendering all control to ibm and microsoft | Mar 20 06:20 |
| kingoffrance | what are you saying, i should make choices based on reality and not surface appearances? | Mar 20 06:21 |
| matey | no, youre too smart to tell you anything (thats both good and bad, i mean it in a mostly neutral way) | Mar 20 06:21 |
| matey | what im saying is that draugr os is a farce, and also that gnu isnt very free at this point (2 separate points, which have some overlap) | Mar 20 06:22 |
| matey | but im not picking on draugr, tell me another distro youre interested in and ill give it the same treatment | Mar 20 06:22 |
| kingoffrance | i was just quoting, it was in my scrollback :D | Mar 20 06:22 |
| matey | no worries | Mar 20 06:23 |
| kingoffrance | prompted> anyone using Drauger OS ? | Mar 20 06:23 |
| matey | if i made a gnu/linux distro today it would be a distro designed specifically to get people to stop using gnu/linux | Mar 20 06:25 |
| matey | ive thought about it, but ive always found something better to do with my time, like tease daemonfc about his racism | Mar 20 06:26 |
| matey | its never going to stop him and yet its somewhat satisfying | Mar 20 06:26 |
| matey | kingoffrance heres an interesting tidbit from the draugros website | Mar 20 06:31 |
| matey | If you are currently (1) living within the People’s Republic of China; (2) a citizen of the People’s Republic of China; (3) a government official or contractor working for the People’s Republic of China; or (4) accessing this website through a Chinese network or VPN; you are expressly FORBIDDEN to access this website, or any website hosted on our network (including but not limited to all subdomains of cygo.network, cygonetwork.com, and draugeros.o | Mar 20 06:31 |
| matey | so citzens of the republic of china (which i presume to mean anyone bor there) are forbidden from accessing draugeros.org | Mar 20 06:32 |
| matey | it reminds me of a line from an old bullwinkle cartoon, boris and natasha are outside a launch site and natasha is reading a sign | Mar 20 06:34 |
| matey | "welcome to cape carnivorous-- all spies must register with personnel officer" | Mar 20 06:35 |
| matey | boris: come on | Mar 20 06:35 |
| matey | natasha: we arent going to register? | Mar 20 06:35 |
| matey | boris: whos going to spy? were just going to sabotage | Mar 20 06:35 |
| matey | when it comes time to get parts for their console, i wonder where they will source them from. | Mar 20 06:38 |
| matey | probably amazon, theyre american i think. | Mar 20 06:38 |
| kingoffrance | lol yes thats like warez sites all fbi agents must leave | Mar 20 06:44 |
| kingoffrance | by not leaving you agree not to arrest me | Mar 20 06:44 |
| matey | the shrinkwrap defence | Mar 20 06:44 |
| matey | like you can just put a sign on your property that says "cops may not trespass" and when they get there theyll be like "well, shit, i guess we have to resign from the force before we can do anything" | Mar 20 06:45 |
| matey | "we didnt think theyd put up a SIGN!" | Mar 20 06:45 |
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| matey | pity is a worthless emotion (its like the douchebag cousin of compassion) but the one group of people i feel actual pity for are the sort who put eulas on gpl software and shrinkwrap licenses on free software websites | Mar 20 06:47 |
| matey | with terms that are impossible to enforce, like they dont miss the point of the whole thing anyway | Mar 20 06:48 |
| matey | its sort of like "i wanted to be a lawyer but i suck at that, so i make video games"-- nothing against making video games. | Mar 20 06:48 |
| matey | "but look at this cool notice i put on my website!" | Mar 20 06:48 |
| kingoffrance | " a government official or contractor working for the People’s Republic of China" that eliminates all the western civilization proud boys | Mar 20 06:50 |
| matey | ironically theres nothing about russia at all, but i suspect thats because the website is neglected in favour of making a neat case for the intel console | Mar 20 06:50 |
| kingoffrance | :) there go the churches | Mar 20 06:50 |
| matey | We make sure all the code we develop is open sourced. Just like how we make sure to be open minded when getting advice (or criticism) from others. We appreciate feedback from our users! | Mar 20 06:51 |
| matey | ^ not you, china! | Mar 20 06:51 |
| matey | /me makes a movie called victor chin, about a russian impersonating a chinese national impersonating a russian spy | Mar 20 06:53 |
| matey | with apologies to the lovely julie andrews | Mar 20 06:53 |
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| matey | kingoffrance if you get bored, do your linguistic thing on "man without a country" | Mar 20 06:59 |
| matey | id ask activelow but i dont think he will :) | Mar 20 06:59 |
| matey | plus we would only find out that it comes from german | Mar 20 07:00 |
| matey | if we do a techrights musical, activelow has to be played by kenneth mars | Mar 20 07:02 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▃▄▅▆▂▃▅▅▅▃▆▃▄▃▄▆▅▄▃▄▄▄▃▆▅▅▆▅▆▃▅▆▃▄▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.11 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁█▂█▁█▁▂▁▁▁▁▁█▁▂▁▁▂▂█▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 79.05▕ swarm size (avg): 279.48 ⟲ | Mar 20 07:02 |
| matey | /me checks wikipedia | Mar 20 07:02 |
| matey | we will have to find the closest thing to kenneth mars | Mar 20 07:02 |
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| kingoffrance | take it to another channel i will tell you matey :D | Mar 20 07:08 |
| matey | oh we are proper today | Mar 20 07:09 |
| matey | um | Mar 20 07:09 |
| matey | thats fine, whats the political one? | Mar 20 07:09 |
| matey | funnily enough this is about free software (im happy to humour you nonetheless) | Mar 20 07:10 |
| kingoffrance | techpol or boycottnovell-social | Mar 20 07:10 |
| matey | techpol it is | Mar 20 07:10 |
| matey | social is NOISEY | Mar 20 07:10 |
| CrystalMath | there's a problem with tor now, tor-resolve fails on sputniknews.com because there's a lot of EU exit nodes | Mar 20 07:14 |
| CrystalMath | i think tor should remove all of its EU exit nodes, it's as good as putting exit nodes in china now | Mar 20 07:14 |
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| CrystalMath | i sincerely hope that i will not see techrights speak in support of censorship | Mar 20 07:33 |
| schestowitz | that site is not available at all? | Mar 20 07:39 |
| matey | what site? | Mar 20 07:39 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: it works if you use a different DNS, but it won't resolve | Mar 20 07:39 |
| CrystalMath | the EU doesn't have a great firewall yet | Mar 20 07:39 |
| techrights-news | Grep Command with Examples • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162760 | Mar 20 07:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Grep Command with Examples | Tux Machines | Mar 20 07:39 | |
| matey | it has a great filter | Mar 20 07:39 |
| techrights-news | "This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard. We shall explain what the object is" https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/03/19/333/ | Mar 20 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sysdfree.wordpress.com | 2021 hardcore list of linux distributions without elogind and other systemd parts | systemd-free linux community | Mar 20 07:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Many thanks to Hrvoje for the write-up and for doing all these tests, and of course to Alexander Bluhm, Alexandr Nedvedicky and others developers for working on parallelizing the network stack." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220319123157 | Mar 20 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Testing parallel forwarding | Mar 20 07:44 | |
| mjg59_ | CrystalMath: The Tor solution is for Sputnik to run a Tor service | Mar 20 07:46 |
| techrights-news | "Developer velocity isn't the whole of developer productivity. I think of developer velocity as post-commit workflow. Once a feature or change set is ready, how much "red tape" is there to get those changes out to customers? But "red tape" isn't just bureaucratic with software." https://matt-rickard.com/developer-velocity/ | Mar 20 07:46 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/developer-velocity/ | Mar 20 07:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Developer Velocity | Mar 20 07:46 | |
| CrystalMath | mjg59_: maybe i'm just worried in advance, but what if the EU starts blocking more and more? | Mar 20 07:47 |
| techrights-news | "Some of our CGIs are purely informational; they present some dynamic information on a web page, and don't take any parameters or otherwise particularly interact with people." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/CGIModuleOurUsage | Mar 20 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/CGIModuleOurUsage | Mar 20 07:47 | |
| matey | then they can suffer the further loss of credibility | Mar 20 07:47 |
| matey | and people will fight it i suppose | Mar 20 07:47 |
| matey | like they do in china | Mar 20 07:47 |
| matey | and pakistan | Mar 20 07:48 |
| matey | and taiwan | Mar 20 07:48 |
| techrights-news | "This article summarizes conversations where participants were asked how they would envision and realize a better internet as it relates to architecture and open standards" https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/15/better-internet-series-architecture-and-open-standards/ | Mar 20 07:48 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/15/better-internet-series-architecture-and-open-standards/ | Mar 20 07:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Better Internet Series: Architecture and Open Standards - Creative Commons | Mar 20 07:48 | |
| mjg59_ | CrystalMath: Tor serves two purposes: some semblance of anonymity for access to internet services, and censorship-resistant hosting via hidden services | Mar 20 07:48 |
| mjg59_ | CrystalMath: If large parts of the internet stop talking to an internet-facing service, Tor can't fix that, and it's not in scope for it to | Mar 20 07:49 |
| CrystalMath | mjg59_: very well, makes sense | Mar 20 07:51 |
| mjg59_ | DNS is, uh, inherently centralised | Mar 20 07:52 |
| mjg59_ | And can also be controlled at the node | Mar 20 07:52 |
| mjg59_ | So | Mar 20 07:52 |
| CrystalMath | it's certainly possible to, let's say, dig @77.88.8.1 sputniknews.com | Mar 20 07:53 |
| CrystalMath | even from an EU address | Mar 20 07:53 |
| CrystalMath | 77.88.8.1 is Yandex's DNS | Mar 20 07:54 |
| mjg59_ | It's extremely difficult to make the internet as is resistant to censorship | Mar 20 07:55 |
| mjg59_ | The EU stuff may not be terribly effective at the moment, but they could enforce stronger restrictions that would be | Mar 20 07:55 |
| mjg59_ | You basically need something like onion services to avoid that | Mar 20 07:56 |
| mjg59_ | So just dropping EU exit nodes would help right now, but there's no guarantee it would in the long term | Mar 20 07:56 |
| mjg59_ | Services that want to be accessible in the face of censorship basically need to run an onion service, but obviously that complicates things because talking about how you're doing that also enables people to circumvent any censorship your state is imposing | Mar 20 07:57 |
| mjg59_ | (Obvious solution: Sputnik tells people to download backdoored Tor binaries, which report people who use those to visit the BBC and so on) | Mar 20 07:58 |
| CrystalMath | is BBC blocked in russia? | Mar 20 08:00 |
| CrystalMath | i know some things are | Mar 20 08:01 |
| techrights-news | "A company spent months re-inventing cron. The stated goal of this system was to free it from the constraints of a 24-hour day, for example, should it ever need to operate off-planet. For bonus points, the new units of time and their intervals were codified into an elaborate type system which compiled away." gemini://perplexing.space/2022/re-the-static-file-startup.gmi | Mar 20 08:01 |
| CrystalMath | yandex DNS resolves bbc.co.uk | Mar 20 08:01 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▆▂▅▄▅▅▃▅▃▁▂▅▅▇▃▆▆▄▅▃▁▅▅▂▅▂▄▅▄▃▄▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁▄▅▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁█▁▂▂▁▁▂█▁▁▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 107.11▕ swarm size (avg): 279.52 ⟲ | Mar 20 08:01 |
| CrystalMath | i'm aware that there is censorship in russia, though | Mar 20 08:02 |
| CrystalMath | it's just, few people fall so low to block major news outlets | Mar 20 08:02 |
| techrights-news | "Last week, to kick off our series of posts about the winners of the fourth annual public domain game jam, Gaming Like It’s 1926, we took a look at Best Adaptation winner The Wall Across The River." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/19/game-jam-winner-spotlight-the-obstruction-method/ | Mar 20 08:05 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/19/game-jam-winner-spotlight-the-obstruction-method/ | Mar 20 08:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Game Jam Winner Spotlight: The Obstruction Method | Techdirt | Mar 20 08:05 | |
| techrights-news | “these vulnerabilities exist in Microsoft Edge" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/microsoft-edge-vulnerable-to-attacks-meitys-cert-in-issues-warning-for-browser-users-advisory-to-stay-safe/90316846 | Mar 20 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft Edge vulnerable to attacks: MeitY's CERT-In issues warning for browser users, advisory to stay safe, CIO News, ET CIO | Mar 20 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO: "ConVal School District said it will be affected by anticipated milk shortages" https://www.securityweek.com/most-hood-plants-after-cyber-event-schools-concerned | Mar 20 08:10 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: securityweek.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/most-hood-plants-after-cyber-event-schools-concerned | Mar 20 08:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Most Hood Plants Up After Cyber 'Event,' Schools Concerned | SecurityWeek.Com | Mar 20 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO: "In fact, often the most damaging cyberoperations are covert and deniable by design." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/opinion/cyberwar-ukraine-russia.html | Mar 20 08:10 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/opinion/cyberwar-ukraine-russia.html | Mar 20 08:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Why You Haven’t Heard About the Secret Cyberwar in Ukraine - The New York Times | Mar 20 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | Zuckerberg espionage tool "Instagram said Thursday it had blocked rapper Kanye West, who now goes by Ye, from using his account for 24 hours for violating the social network's harassment policy" https://today.rtl.lu/entertainment/news/a/1882933.html | Mar 20 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Harassment: Kanye West banned from posting on Instagram for 24 hours | Mar 20 08:13 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO: "The 2021 hack of Colonial Pipeline, the biggest fuel pipeline in the United States, ended with thousands of panicked Americans hoarding gas and a fuel shortage across the eastern seaboard." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/18/1047395/inside-the-plan-to-fix-americas-never-ending-cybersecurity-failures/ | Mar 20 08:17 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/18/1047395/inside-the-plan-to-fix-americas-never-ending-cybersecurity-failures/ | Mar 20 08:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Inside the plan to fix America's never-ending cybersecurity failures | MIT Technology Review | Mar 20 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO: "A cache of 60,000 leaked chat messages and files from the notorious Conti ransomware group provides glimpses of how the criminal gang is well connected within Russia." https://www.databreaches.net/leaked-ransomware-documents-show-conti-helping-putin-from-the-shadows/ | Mar 20 08:17 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: databreaches.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/leaked-ransomware-documents-show-conti-helping-putin-from-the-shadows/ | Mar 20 08:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | Leaked ransomware documents show Conti helping Putin from the shadows | Mar 20 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | "The National Rifle Association (NRA) has confirmed it was the subject of a ransomware attack that took place last October, according to a report from Gizmodo" "https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/19/22986501/nra-confirms-ransomware-attack-hack | Mar 20 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The NRA confirms it was hacked last year - The Verge | Mar 20 08:18 | |
| techrights-news | "A judge on Tuesday threw out motions by the attorney general of the District of Columbia to name Mark Zuckerberg, the chief executive of Meta, as a defendant in a privacy lawsuit" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/technology/zuckerberg-meta-privacy-lawsuit.html | Mar 20 08:21 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/technology/zuckerberg-meta-privacy-lawsuit.html | Mar 20 08:21 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Mark Zuckerberg Won’t Be Named in Meta Privacy Suit, Judge Says - The New York Times | Mar 20 08:21 | |
| techrights-news | SPY TV https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-vpn-for-smart-tv/ | Mar 20 08:22 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnet.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-vpn-for-smart-tv/ | Mar 20 08:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best VPN for Your Smart TV - CNET | Mar 20 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | "It’s been two days since Roskomnadzor blocked Instagram in Russia." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/16/this-destroys-my-five-years-of-hard-work | Mar 20 08:23 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: meduza.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/16/this-destroys-my-five-years-of-hard-work | Mar 20 08:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Mar 20 08:23 | |
| techrights-news | "required to activate Facebook Protect with two-factor authentication by the March 17 deadline." https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/meta-locks-people-out-of-their-accounts-for-not-activating-facebook-protect/ | Mar 20 08:24 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnet.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/meta-locks-people-out-of-their-accounts-for-not-activating-facebook-protect/ | Mar 20 08:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook Locks People Out of Accounts for Not Activating Protect Feature - CNET | Mar 20 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Broadly speaking, open-source intelligence describes the knowledge or insight emerging from focused collection, monitoring and analysis of publicly accessible information" https://theconversation.com/open-source-intelligence-how-digital-sleuths-are-making-their-mark-on-the-ukraine-war-179135 | Mar 20 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Open-source intelligence: how digital sleuths are making their mark on the Ukraine war | Mar 20 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | "TikTok, with its young-skewing active global user base of one billion, would seem a natural next frontier." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/style/tiktok-political-campaigns-midterm-elections.html | Mar 20 08:30 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: nytimes.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/style/tiktok-political-campaigns-midterm-elections.html | Mar 20 08:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How Candidates Are Using TikTok to Secure Younger Voters - The New York Times | Mar 20 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | ‘influence officers’ https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2022/03/17/marine-corps-unveils-influence-officers-for-information-fight/ | Mar 20 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marinecorpstimes.com | Marine Corps unveils ‘influence officers’ for information fight | Mar 20 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | VPN in Russia https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/19/russia-vpn-internet/ | Mar 20 08:31 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/19/russia-vpn-internet/ | Mar 20 08:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Russians are using VPNs to access the truth about Ukraine. It’s leading to fights between friends and families - The Washington Post | Mar 20 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 19, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/irc-log-190322/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/20/irc-log-190322/ | Mar 20 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 19, 2022 | Techrights | Mar 20 08:33 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162761 | Mar 20 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 20 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | "Endless consumption is not the goal, they say, but the problem. And we need a change in our language to help us see that problem and solve it" https://qz.com/2142897/theres-a-backlash-against-the-idea-of-calling-people-consumers/ | Mar 20 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | There's a backlash against the idea of calling people consumers — Quartz | Mar 20 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | "The landing in Togo may come as a surprise since an initial map of the project suggested it would branch out first in Lagos, Nigeria, arguably Africa’s technology hub." https://qz.com/africa/2143897/googles-equiano-cable-is-making-its-first-landing-in-togo/ | Mar 20 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Google's Africa cable Equiano makes its first landing in Togo — Quartz Africa | Mar 20 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | "Ukraine is asking Chinese drone manufacturer DJI to stop doing business with Russia" https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3nkg5/dji-has-the-power-to-control-where-drones-can-fly-ukraine-wants-them-to-use-it | Mar 20 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | DJI Has the Power to Control Where Drones Can Fly. Ukraine Wants Them to Use It. | Mar 20 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | "Amazon on Thursday morning announced that it closed its $8.5 billion acquisition of MGM. But the deal may not be out of the regulatory woods yet." https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/ftc-may-challenge-amazon-mgm-deal-1235208241/ | Mar 20 08:41 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: variety.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/biz/news/ftc-may-challenge-amazon-mgm-deal-1235208241/ | Mar 20 08:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon-MGM Deal Close: FTC Warns It May 'Challenge a Deal at Any Time' - Variety | Mar 20 08:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Paul Hansmeier, one of the convicted attorneys behind the controversial Prenda Law firm, is no longer allowed to file new copyright cases in the District of Minnesota." https://torrentfreak.com/court-prohibits-convicted-lawyer-from-filing-new-copyright-lawsuits-220319/ | Mar 20 08:46 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/court-prohibits-convicted-lawyer-from-filing-new-copyright-lawsuits-220319/ | Mar 20 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Prohibits Convicted Lawyer from Filing New Copyright Lawsuits * TorrentFreak | Mar 20 08:46 | |
| techrights-news | "'Kevin McFree' recently fended off a Watch Tower DMCA subpoena after a judge found that his critical animations were protected under fair use." https://torrentfreak.com/watch-tower-vs-mcfree-nonprofit-defends-critics-fair-use-anonymity-rights-220319/ | Mar 20 08:46 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/watch-tower-vs-mcfree-nonprofit-defends-critics-fair-use-anonymity-rights-220319/ | Mar 20 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Tower vs. McFree: Nonprofit Defends Critic's Fair Use & Anonymity Rights * TorrentFreak | Mar 20 08:46 | |
| techrights-news | "Inflation! Inflation! Everyone’s talking about it, but ignoring one of its biggest causes: corporate concentration." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/19/underlying-problem-isnt-inflation-its-corporate-power-and-greed | Mar 20 08:48 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/19/underlying-problem-isnt-inflation-its-corporate-power-and-greed | Mar 20 08:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Underlying Problem Isn't Inflation—It's Corporate Power and Greed | Robert Reich | Mar 20 08:48 | |
| techrights-news | Vaccine patents kill millions. Almost nobody talks about this anymore... https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/19/activists-say-new-compromise-ip-waiver-covid-vaccines-worse-no-deal | Mar 20 08:49 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/19/activists-say-new-compromise-ip-waiver-covid-vaccines-worse-no-deal | Mar 20 08:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Activists Say New 'Compromise' on IP Waiver for Covid Vaccines Is Worse Than No Deal | Sarah Lazare | Mar 20 08:49 | |
| techrights-news | "If you’re anything like us you’ve been keeping a close eye on the development of RISC-V: an open standard instruction set architecture (ISA) that’s been threatening to change the computing status quo for what seems like forever." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/19/clockwork-devterm-r-01-takes-risc-v-out-for-a-spin/ | Mar 20 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clockwork DevTerm R-01 Takes RISC-V Out For A Spin | Hackaday | Mar 20 08:51 | |
| techrights-news | #precursor crowdfunding https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor/updates/crowdfunding-begins | Mar 20 08:53 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: crowdsupply.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor/updates/crowdfunding-begins | Mar 20 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Precursor - Crowdfunding Begins! | Crowd Supply | Mar 20 08:53 | |
| techrights-news | Every Kind of Fix - Inkscape Developer Update March 19th 2022 - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/iwMF-63ZPj4 | Mar 20 08:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Every Kind of Fix - Inkscape Developer Update March 19th 2022 - Invidious | Mar 20 08:56 | |
| techrights-news | Hackers Target Bank Networks with new Rootkit to Steal Money from ATM Machines ⚓ https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/hackers-target-bank-networks-with-new.html | Mar 20 08:58 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/03/hackers-target-bank-networks-with-new.html | Mar 20 08:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Hackers Target Bank Networks with new Rootkit to Steal Money from ATM Machines | Mar 20 08:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▅▄▅▂▃▄▅▅▂▁▂█▆▆▃▄▃▅▅▇▅▆▇▅▄▅▁▅▂▄▅▅▅▅▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.45 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▅▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 15.56▕ swarm size (avg): 279.55 ⟲ | Mar 20 09:01 |
| techrights-news | The Register uses the Microsoft lobbying propaganda, "Big Tech" (designed to distract from Microsoft's crimes) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/democrat_bills_big_mergers/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ | Mar 20 09:09 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: theregister.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/democrat_bills_big_mergers/ | Mar 20 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | US mulls laws allowing FTC, DoJ to block mergers over $5bn • The Register | Mar 20 09:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights | Mar 20 09:09 | |
| techrights-news | Avnet survey shows chip shortage impacts most designs, increases engineers workload - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/20/avnet-survey-shows-chip-shortage-impacts-most-designs-increases-engineers-workload/ | Mar 20 09:11 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/20/avnet-survey-shows-chip-shortage-impacts-most-designs-increases-engineers-workload/ | Mar 20 09:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Avnet survey shows chip shortage impacts most designs, increases engineers workload - CNX Software | Mar 20 09:11 | |
| techrights-news | Day one reflections for LibrePlanet: "Living Liberation" • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162762 | Mar 20 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Day one reflections for LibrePlanet: "Living Liberation" | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:11 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162763 | Mar 20 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | Rendering Text with Glyphy - Zen and the Art of GNOME • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162764 | Mar 20 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rendering Text with Glyphy - Zen and the Art of GNOME | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | Links 20/3/2022: GNUnet 0.16.2 and Free Software Awards | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/free-software-awards/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/20/free-software-awards/ | Mar 20 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/3/2022: GNUnet 0.16.2 and Free Software Awards | Techrights | Mar 20 09:25 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary Software Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162765 | Mar 20 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:27 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162766 | Mar 20 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:28 | |
| techrights-news | RISC-V and Mobile Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162767 | Mar 20 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V and Mobile Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:28 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162768 | Mar 20 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 20 09:28 | |
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| techrights-news | European Federation of Public Service Unions (EPSU) in Support of the Strike at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/support-by-epsu-for-the-strike/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/20/support-by-epsu-for-the-strike/ | Mar 20 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Federation of Public Service Unions (EPSU) in Support of the Strike at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights | Mar 20 09:58 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▄▅▄▅▂▃▄▅▅▂▁▂█▆▆▃▄▃▅▅▇▅▆▇▅▄▅▁▅▂▄▅▅▅▅▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.45 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▅▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 15.56▕ swarm size (avg): 279.55 ⟲ | Mar 20 10:01 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | 279.58 ⟲ | Mar 20 10:01 |
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| DaemonFC | https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/20/there-are-at-least-8-potential-hitlers-in-congress-right-now-all-republicans/ | Mar 20 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | There are at least 8 potential Hitlers in Congress right now. All Republicans. – BaronHK's Rants | Mar 20 10:19 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | back in 3-4 hours, recording | Mar 20 10:43 |
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| DaemonFC | The last octet of the VPN server IP address is different than what the NordVPN client reports. | Mar 20 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's interesting. | Mar 20 10:46 |
| bnchs__ | yes because | Mar 20 10:46 |
| bnchs__ | either programming bug | Mar 20 10:46 |
| bnchs__ | or intentional | Mar 20 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised that guy on the other side of the building can get a T-Mobile Home Internet signal at all. | Mar 20 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | I saw the pod in his window. | Mar 20 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | He's on the basement floor like us, but the T-Mobile app says the tower is on my side of the building. | Mar 20 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | And yet I have all sorts of connection problems. | Mar 20 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | I can only imagine what being in his unit would be like with the entire building in the way. | Mar 20 10:49 |
| bnchs__ | do you actually see their tower | Mar 20 10:50 |
| bnchs__ | rather than in an app, where they can lie to you | Mar 20 10:51 |
| techrights-news | LMDE 5 “Elsie” released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162666#comment-33115 | Mar 20 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) 5 “Elsie” Is Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Mar 20 10:51 | |
| techrights-news | Lakka 4.0 release • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162769 | Mar 20 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 4.0 release | Tux Machines | Mar 20 10:51 | |
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| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/16/russia-blocks-access-to-bbc-vows-more-media-retaliation-a76964 duh | Mar 20 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Russia Blocks Access to BBC, Vows More Media Retaliation - The Moscow Times | Mar 20 11:33 | |
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| bnchs__ | you block RT | Mar 20 11:46 |
| bnchs__ | i block BBC | Mar 20 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | And DW. And everything else too. | Mar 20 11:50 |
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| infoWAREZ | sup | Mar 20 12:09 |
| infoWAREZ | this IRC as gone to sleep | Mar 20 12:10 |
| infoWAREZ | !list | Mar 20 12:10 |
| infoWAREZ | !warez | Mar 20 12:10 |
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| bnchs__ | infoWAREZ, hi | Mar 20 12:17 |
| infoWAREZ | hello | Mar 20 12:19 |
| infoWAREZ | whats the word? | Mar 20 12:19 |
| bnchs__ | what? | Mar 20 12:21 |
| infoWAREZ | whats going on? | Mar 20 12:23 |
| infoWAREZ | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=what%E2%80%99s+the+word%3F | Mar 20 12:25 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: urbandictionary.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=what%E2%80%99s+the+word%3F | Mar 20 12:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: what’s the word? | Mar 20 12:25 | |
| infoWAREZ | were are you from bnchs? | Mar 20 12:27 |
| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: IRC is exhausted from all the discussion it seems :) | Mar 20 12:38 |
| psydruid | where can I get WaReZ, though? | Mar 20 12:40 |
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| bnchs__ | infoWAREZ, why should i answer | Mar 20 12:44 |
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| infoWAREZ | not here it seems | Mar 20 12:59 |
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| schestowitz-TR | weird | Mar 20 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | finding a network just to ask this? | Mar 20 14:20 |
| techrights-news | "The prices are crazy given how poor Tajikistan is, so it all feels extremely exploitative. Like, US prices for mobile Internet? Who can afford that?" gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202203201140.gmi | Mar 20 14:25 |
| techrights-news | "It's good to have some time on the weekend to have a cup of coffee and surf the small-net at the same time. Small pleasures and rituals." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-03-20-Sunday-coffee.gmi | Mar 20 14:26 |
| techrights-news | "I believe it could pave the way for lighter and smaller computers for everyday use. PDAs, essentially, with smaller and more efficient displays." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-20-how-about-a-t9-bluetooth-keyboard.gmi | Mar 20 14:27 |
| techrights-news | "My favourite programming languages are Perl and Emacs Lisp. Those are the ones I feel familiar with, those are the ones where I can write small tools and get immediate results. So here’s the Emacs Lisp code I use." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-03-20%20Torchbearers%20and%20bodyguards | Mar 20 14:29 |
| techrights-news | "There are 2258 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1804 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Mar 20 14:30 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: not by DNS, it seems, Yandex DNS returns the addresses of those | Mar 20 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Yandex.DNS doesn't follow the blocks. | Mar 20 14:52 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The blocks are done on the DPI level anyway. | Mar 20 14:52 |
| CrystalMath | i see, so i'd need a proxy in russia to test if something is blocked | Mar 20 14:54 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Yes. | Mar 20 14:54 |
| CrystalMath | this retaliation is silly, and reminds me of "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" | Mar 20 14:56 |
| XRevan86 | It's not silly, it's an information blockade. | Mar 20 14:57 |
| CrystalMath | it's not like you could get actual unbiased information on any of these websites | Mar 20 14:58 |
| CrystalMath | i think people need to be smart, and need to understand that when you open a major news website, it's gonna be biased in some way based on where it's coming from | Mar 20 14:58 |
| psydruid | western media? Russian media? | Mar 20 14:58 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: "in some way" <- There is no war by the way. | Mar 20 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Just peace-making. | Mar 20 14:59 |
| psydruid | is the news in Serbia more balanced? | Mar 20 14:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: With that in mind, how do ye evaluate the quality of Russian media? | Mar 20 14:59 |
| CrystalMath | psydruid: in serbia you can find biased media of both kinds, is that better? | Mar 20 14:59 |
| psydruid | CrystalMath, sure | Mar 20 14:59 |
| CrystalMath | some of our newspapers parrot DW, and some others say ukraine attacked russia | Mar 20 15:00 |
| CrystalMath | which would fit our country's general principle of being neutral, i guess | Mar 20 15:01 |
| psydruid | the truth is likely somewhere in the middle | Mar 20 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Every news outlet I've been reading was blocked. Except for those that closed down. | Mar 20 15:01 |
| psydruid | I've been reading Al Jazeera for the past few weeks | Mar 20 15:01 |
| psydruid | some things are never mentioned in the Dutch media, so screw them | Mar 20 15:02 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: There is only room for one position: Putin's. | Mar 20 15:03 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It's as bad as it sounds. Probably worse, because I have a tendency for downplaying. | Mar 20 15:04 |
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| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i can still complain about the EU though, this is its first time doing something like that; russia never had net neutrality | Mar 20 15:16 |
| XRevan86 | "russia never had net neutrality" <- It did. Pepperidge Farm remembers. | Mar 20 15:17 |
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| XRevan86 | Not as law, but there was a wild time when anything was allowed on the Internet in Russia. | Mar 20 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | And then Yelena Mizulina fixed that. | Mar 20 15:19 |
| CrystalMath | 'What are rights? They’re the biggest lack of freedom. I can tell you that the more rights you have, the less free we are. A ban is when the person is free because it says "this is impossible, but with everything else — [you can] do what you want."' - Yelena Mizulina | Mar 20 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | interesting quote :P | Mar 20 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | i don't think i've read anything that ridiculous outside of fiction | Mar 20 15:26 |
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| XRevan86 | Oh, I remember that. Nostalgic. | Mar 20 15:29 |
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| infoWAREZ | does gnu net works in russia? | Mar 20 15:35 |
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| schestowitz-TR | hi techrights_guest|62 | Mar 20 15:36 |
| infoWAREZ | how much memory does systemd uses versos other light init systems? | Mar 20 15:37 |
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| infoWAREZ | hello? | Mar 20 15:41 |
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| infoWAREZ | can you ear me? | Mar 20 15:42 |
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| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: systemd is harder to evaluate, because it does more. | Mar 20 15:42 |
| infoWAREZ | do i need it down stuff behind my back? | Mar 20 15:43 |
| infoWAREZ | doing | Mar 20 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | Cursed be software that does stuff. | Mar 20 15:44 |
| infoWAREZ | i used linux before systemd and it used aroound 130 mb | Mar 20 15:44 |
| MinceR | 20 081448 < CrystalMath> i think tor should remove all of its EU exit nodes, it's as good as putting exit nodes in china now | Mar 20 15:44 |
| MinceR | it would make more sense to let the user pick an exit node | Mar 20 15:44 |
| infoWAREZ | if its doing stuff i really dont need or care yes | Mar 20 15:46 |
| CrystalMath | infoWAREZ: just don't use it | Mar 20 15:46 |
| infoWAREZ | besids i only have 4g ram | Mar 20 15:47 |
| CrystalMath | one of my machines has 2G | Mar 20 15:47 |
| MinceR | cursed be software that does stuff that nobody asked for, and does so poorly and in a hostile manner, yes | Mar 20 15:47 |
| infoWAREZ | i bet that im gona need x software the will pull in systemd as dependency | Mar 20 15:49 |
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| CrystalMath | infoWAREZ: you see, software that depends on systemd is usually far worse than systemd, in my experience | Mar 20 15:50 |
| CrystalMath | unless it can be recompiled | Mar 20 15:50 |
| CrystalMath | in which case, best do that (or use a binary distro that does not have systemd, like devuan or slackware) | Mar 20 15:50 |
| infoWAREZ | devuan debian compatible? | Mar 20 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: Of course. | Mar 20 15:51 |
| infoWAREZ | what about antix? | Mar 20 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: Same. | Mar 20 15:52 |
| infoWAREZ | any of them are rolling distros? | Mar 20 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | Devuan Ceres is. | Mar 20 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | + Devuan testing | Mar 20 15:54 |
| MinceR | void is rolling :> | Mar 20 15:54 |
| infoWAREZ | okay | Mar 20 15:54 |
| infoWAREZ | wich is lighter? | Mar 20 15:54 |
| infoWAREZ | on ram | Mar 20 15:54 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Mar 20 15:55 |
| MinceR | depends on what you run on it | Mar 20 15:55 |
| infoWAREZ | void dev is MIA or something | Mar 20 15:55 |
| MinceR | void is developed by many people | Mar 20 15:55 |
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| infoWAREZ | im good running xfce | Mar 20 15:56 |
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| infoWAREZ | how much ram does void uses after boot? | Mar 20 15:58 |
| infoWAREZ | musl libc? | Mar 20 15:59 |
| infoWAREZ | are you using that? | Mar 20 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | Is it a good time to mention Alpine Linux edge? | Mar 20 16:00 |
| infoWAREZ | is it compatible with gnu libc? | Mar 20 16:00 |
| infoWAREZ | Alpine Linux doesnt have systemd? | Mar 20 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | Indeed not. | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | hmmmm | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | since this is #techrights | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | i'm going to have to say that alpine is literally systemd OS | Mar 20 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: hahaha | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | we love systemd at alpine | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | we have systemd C compiler | Mar 20 16:01 |
| Ariadne | systemd C runtime | Mar 20 16:02 |
| Ariadne | aka glibsystemd | Mar 20 16:02 |
| Ariadne | systemd kernel | Mar 20 16:02 |
| Ariadne | lennart poettering is honorary CEO of alpine | Mar 20 16:02 |
| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: There ye have it, first-hand information on Alpine from Ariadne, a prominent person in the Alpine community. | Mar 20 16:03 |
| Ariadne | i heard the phrase "Alpine GNU/Linux" at this libreplanet stream earlier, and i want to die | Mar 20 16:03 |
| MinceR | i'm using bedrock with void and devuan strata on one machine, and openbsd on another | Mar 20 16:04 |
| MinceR | i rarely look at ram usage | Mar 20 16:04 |
| infoWAREZ | https://www.slant.co/versus/12958/12960/~openrc_vs_runit | Mar 20 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.slant.co/versus/12958/12960/~openrc_vs_runit ) | Mar 20 16:06 | |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: slant.co | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.slant.co/versus/12958/12960/~openrc_vs_runit | Mar 20 16:06 | |
| Ariadne | openrc is total garbage | Mar 20 16:06 |
| Ariadne | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JmmF6Hu1/Screen%20Shot%202022-03-20%20at%2011.06.50%20AM.png | Mar 20 16:06 |
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| Ariadne | lmfao | Mar 20 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What is that? | Mar 20 16:07 |
| Ariadne | from that link | Mar 20 16:07 |
| Ariadne | infoWAREZ just posted | Mar 20 16:07 |
| infoWAREZ | runit Latest ReleaseAugust 10, 2014 | Mar 20 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: ah | Mar 20 16:07 |
| Ariadne | NOT GPL THEREFORE ITS BAD | Mar 20 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | I didn't even look at it, those versus's are worthless apriori. | Mar 20 16:07 |
| Ariadne | i just glanced at it | Mar 20 16:08 |
| Ariadne | and found that one amusing | Mar 20 16:08 |
| infoWAREZ | openrc Latest releaseNovember 29, 2021 | Mar 20 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | A lot of those pros and cons are written in comparison with systemd. | Mar 20 16:08 |
| infoWAREZ | so that very informative! | Mar 20 16:08 |
| MinceR | if your program doesn't try to do everything, chances are it doesn't have to be updated every week | Mar 20 16:09 |
| Ariadne | i can tell you that openrc is very ok | Mar 20 16:09 |
| Ariadne | but alpine wants to get rid of it | Mar 20 16:09 |
| Ariadne | because it is fragile | Mar 20 16:09 |
| infoWAREZ | like im gona use void linux with a init that isnt matained anymore | Mar 20 16:10 |
| XRevan86 | runit is extremely simple. Too simple. | Mar 20 16:10 |
| Ariadne | i think the void people maintain it themselves | Mar 20 16:10 |
| MinceR | here's an init system that isn't maintained at all: | Mar 20 16:10 |
| MinceR | int main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); } | Mar 20 16:10 |
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| infoWAREZ | distrowatch.com seems down | Mar 20 16:12 |
| immibis | MinceR: you may as well just rename /etc/rc to /sbin/init | Mar 20 16:16 |
| MinceR | that would not reap zombies | Mar 20 16:16 |
| MinceR | then again, apparently neither does systemd, so... :> | Mar 20 16:17 |
| XRevan86 | "then again, apparently neither does systemd, so... :>" <- That brought out memories from like 2013. | Mar 20 16:17 |
| infoWAREZ | does any of this use a gui to configure deamons | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | alpine has a gui | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | you can install | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | for that | Mar 20 16:21 |
| infoWAREZ | well i got glances installed | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | alpine has a full web admin | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | you can install | Mar 20 16:21 |
| Ariadne | called ACF | Mar 20 16:21 |
| infoWAREZ | its not glances its somthing else i cant recall name now | Mar 20 16:24 |
| infoWAREZ | stacer | Mar 20 16:27 |
| infoWAREZ | thats it | Mar 20 16:27 |
| infoWAREZ | have you used it? | Mar 20 16:27 |
| infoWAREZ | https://oguzhaninan.github.io/Stacer-Web/ | Mar 20 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oguzhaninan.github.io | Stacer - Linux System Optimizer & Monitoring | Mar 20 16:28 | |
| infoWAREZ | you dont now about it? | Mar 20 16:31 |
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| infoWAREZ | its the best "control panel" app ive found foe linux | Mar 20 16:31 |
| infoWAREZ | does network manager work with out systemd? | Mar 20 16:38 |
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| immibis | infoWAREZ: windows uses a gui | Mar 20 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | infoWAREZ: It does. | Mar 20 16:50 |
| infoWAREZ | are you telling me to install windows? | Mar 20 16:52 |
| bnchs__ | windows was a GUI for DOS back in the | Mar 20 16:52 |
| bnchs__ | god damn it AUTOCORRECT | Mar 20 16:52 |
| bnchs__ | T E H days | Mar 20 16:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | teh tyepos | Mar 20 16:53 |
| bnchs__ | hexchat has autocorrect | Mar 20 16:53 |
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| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Regarding apko, what is the software to run containers that Alpine has in mind? Still podman/Docker? | Mar 20 17:17 |
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| MinceR | does network manager work? | Mar 20 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Shockingly enough, it does. | Mar 20 17:24 |
| bnchs__ | windows in 1998: Illegal operation, This program crashed because it illegally wrote to some memory | Mar 20 17:50 |
| bnchs__ | windows in 2030: Illegal operation. The user is attempting to wrongthink | Mar 20 17:51 |
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| psydruid | wasn't that windows messing things up rather than those applications | Mar 20 18:08 |
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| psydruid | those same applications didn't crash on gnu/linux | Mar 20 18:09 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I'll post news links soon | Mar 20 18:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR | dealing with HD issues today | Mar 20 18:23 |
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| techrights-news | "Some big things are happening in my life right now. The rate at which I post logs and other content might slow considerably, or stop completely for a while. The capsule will remain accessible as usual, so visitors can continue to play chess and browse my existing content." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220320-likely-hiatus.gmi | Mar 20 18:36 |
| techrights-news | "One of the things I'm painfully aware, is the sheer amount of online identities that I have collected over the years. There number surpassed the 100 mark recently. When I teach classes, I ask the attendees to create a list of all their important, un-important, funny, forgotten IDs for themselves." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220320-detox.gmi | Mar 20 18:37 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/weekend-random-randomness-3-19-22-17.jpg | Mar 20 18:48 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/weekend-random-randomness-3-19-22-17.jpg | Mar 20 18:48 | |
| ciphrCat | i finally got around to writing a story you guys said might be interesting to publish. | Mar 20 19:04 |
| ciphrCat | this is the markdown → https://termbin.com/gqh0 | Mar 20 19:04 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: termbin.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://termbin.com/gqh0 | Mar 20 19:04 | |
| ciphrCat | shit, i thought termbin quit CF | Mar 20 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi ciphrCat | Mar 20 19:06 |
| ciphrCat | hello | Mar 20 19:06 |
| schestowitz | are you ok with us republishing that? | Mar 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | also, was it published elsewhere already? | Mar 20 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Reddit is a censorship site | Mar 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | it always was | Mar 20 19:09 |
| ciphrCat | if you look at the very last paragraph, it was on reddit for a brief moment | Mar 20 19:09 |
| ciphrCat | yeah | Mar 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I'm surprised people think Reddit exists to inform people | Mar 20 19:09 |
| schestowitz | I will publish it now... | Mar 20 19:09 |
| ciphrCat | reddit was the only place i recall publishing it | Mar 20 19:09 |
| ciphrCat | cool | Mar 20 19:09 |
| ciphrCat | btw i quit using reddit at that time (2019ish?) so it's a bit of an old story but still interesting and should be told | Mar 20 19:13 |
| ciphrCat | it should be known that some police services are limited to Facebook users -- and that should be protested | Mar 20 19:13 |
| schestowitz | ciphrCat: http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/brussels-police-facebook/ | Mar 20 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Brussels Police: No Help Unless You Open an Account at Facebook | Techrights | Mar 20 19:17 | |
| schestowitz | see if you can spot typos/issues | Mar 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | this is still a draft | Mar 20 19:17 |
| schestowitz | redddit is social control media | Mar 20 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it's censoring even more aggressively than most | Mar 20 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it also shadowbans a lot | Mar 20 19:18 |
| ciphrCat | right, i got caught up in the shadowban loop once, at which point I could not even post in my own community for which I was the sole moderator. | Mar 20 19:22 |
| ciphrCat | Thanks for posting the article. It looks good to me but I suppose I'm unlikely to catch my own mistakes. | Mar 20 19:23 |
| ciphrCat | the police link redirects to https://polbru.be/, so apparently that changed since the story notes were first written, but it works nonetheless | Mar 20 19:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-polbru.be | Home - Lokale Politie | Mar 20 19:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | might change again | Mar 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | 10 years down the line most links break | Mar 20 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the idiots they hire to build site don't care about any form of backward compatibility | Mar 20 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | in my site, all the links that worked 20 years ago still work | Mar 20 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | FB too might die in the next 10 years | Mar 20 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter might not last even 5 | Mar 20 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | it loses users and money | Mar 20 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | having said that | Mar 20 19:26 |
| ciphrCat | i figured their momentum was unstoppable | Mar 20 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless putler gets jiggy with the bomb, | Mar 20 19:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | brussells police can last another 50 years | Mar 20 19:26 |
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| DaemonFC | They offer Walmart employees "free Walmart+" now. | Mar 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | In the fine print it says they tax "the fair market value" and report it to the IRS if you sign up for it. | Mar 20 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Since they charge $100 a year, it adds about $10-15 to your federal tax and about $5 you owe Illinois. | Mar 20 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Plus it may raise your taxable income so much that you no longer qualify for the retirement SAVERS credit if you were close to not qualifying. | Mar 20 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Then it actually could end up costing you hundreds of dollars in additional tax to take something that only usually costs $100. | Mar 20 19:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I am tidying old files at the momnent | Mar 20 19:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | and found two PDFs you sent me of a richard jones bankrupcy | Mar 20 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, we never published these | Mar 20 19:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | can we ever establish that was the same person? | Mar 20 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Not sure. | Mar 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Mar 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, you had credits | Mar 20 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to figure out what Mandy signed up for without asking me. | Mar 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and used that to look something up | Mar 20 19:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | this one says richard | Mar 20 19:40 |
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| immibis | traditionally, if one kept having good posts censored by moderators on reddit, they would create a new subreddit called /r/TrueBrussels, and it would become filled with alt-right garbage | Mar 20 20:01 |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Cisco Secure Firewall • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162770 | Mar 20 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Cisco Secure Firewall | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:02 | |
| techrights-news | 9 Best Free and Open Source Image Processing Libraries • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162771 | Mar 20 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Best Free and Open Source Image Processing Libraries | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:02 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | immibis: /r/BrusselsTruth | Mar 20 20:02 |
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| immibis | TrueX is a traditional format | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't know | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | truthers | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | truth social | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | "theTruth" | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | those words and terms got associated with cranks | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | but well before trump | Mar 20 20:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe before 9/11 too, not old enough to be sure | Mar 20 20:04 |
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| techrights-news | Build Your Own Handheld Linux PC with Raspberry Pi and this Open Source Project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162772 | Mar 20 20:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Build Your Own Handheld Linux PC with Raspberry Pi and this Open Source Project | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:05 | |
| kingoffrance | pravda | Mar 20 20:06 |
| kingoffrance | since 1912 | Mar 20 20:08 |
| techrights-news | 10 Things to Do After Installing Pop!_OS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162773 | Mar 20 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Things to Do After Installing Pop!_OS | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:08 | |
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| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162774 | Mar 20 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/tims24/i_just_want_to_execute_apps_without_memorizing/ | Mar 20 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | I just want to execute apps without memorizing sentences... : linuxmasterrace | Mar 20 20:49 | |
| DaemonFC | Okay, since they're going to charge us Income Tax on this Walmart+ thing, I might as well use it. | Mar 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | So now I have free delivery of any size order and 5 cents off per gallon of gas at Murphy. Woohoo. | Mar 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Truth Social pretty much failed immediately. | Mar 20 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | There's still only one post from Trump's account, which is his "Get ready! Your favorite president will be here soon!". | Mar 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | They didn't even bother to copy over his tweets, and he hasn't actually posted anything new. | Mar 20 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | So this is going nowhere. | Mar 20 20:51 |
| techrights-news | EPSU has spoken in support of the trade union at the European Patent Office (EPO), saying that the “latest action will [hopefully] ensure a restoration of fundamental rights and the suspension or reversal of major reforms detrimental to working conditions and staff’s wellbeing.” http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/support-by-epsu-for-the-strike/ | Mar 20 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Federation of Public Service Unions (EPSU) in Support of the Strike at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights | Mar 20 20:52 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Kernel 5.17 Officially Released, This Is What’s New • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162775 | Mar 20 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.17 Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines | Mar 20 20:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MarketWatch be like: "I only have $30 million dollars in my 401(k) and my wife only has $70 million in hers. We're worried we won't be able to live a simple life in retirement.". | Mar 20 20:57 |
| techrights-news | Another shell script moved to rust | Ganneff’s Little Blog ⚓ https://blog.ganneff.de/2022/03/another-shell-script-moved-to-rust.html MOAR bloat | Mar 20 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ganneff.de | Another shell script moved to rust | Ganneff’s Little Blog | Mar 20 20:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: the 0.1%'s problem | Mar 20 20:58 |
| techrights-news | makeuseof should know better than to peddle WSL BS. WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. | Mar 20 20:59 |
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| techrights-news | KWin 5.25 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162776 | Mar 20 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KWin 5.25 | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:07 | |
| techrights-news | Does Putin elect politicians in the US? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/20/there-are-at-least-8-potential-hitlers-in-congress-right-now-all-republicans/ | Mar 20 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | There are at least 8 potential Hitlers in Congress right now. All Republicans. – BaronHK's Rants | Mar 20 21:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Instead of a raise, they give Walmart employees this Walmart+ thing, which is just another way to spend money at Walmart. | Mar 20 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | And then you have to pay taxes on whatever the fictional value of Walmart+ is that some corporate bigwig made up in their own head. | Mar 20 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Furthermore, they openly threaten to fire you if you give your subscription to anyone else, including your spouse. So you have to set the account up under your own name and use the fiction that the gas and grocery orders are being placed by you even if they're the ones doing the shopping and filling up the tank to take you to work. | Mar 20 21:13 |
| techrights-news | Listening devices are NOT alternative? Heck, clown stuff for something you can do in LibreOffice instead is just insane. https://www.ubuntupit.com/voice-typing-in-google-docs-lets-give-a-break-to-your-fingers/ | Mar 20 21:14 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: ubuntupit.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ubuntupit.com/voice-typing-in-google-docs-lets-give-a-break-to-your-fingers/ | Mar 20 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | Voice Typing in Google Docs: Let's Give A Break To Your Fingers | Mar 20 21:14 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162777 | Mar 20 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:15 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I switched cards with Mandy. He can be me when he's buying stuff and I can be him. | Mar 20 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | That way if I'm at the gas station, he's buying the gas with his credit card. | Mar 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | I remember being a manager there and we used to look for things like this, like with the discount card it's fine if your spouse uses it. They'll even give them one in their own name. | Mar 20 21:16 |
| techrights-news | Microbel running ads again for AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MI200-ISA-Docs see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ | Mar 20 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Publishes New Instinct MI200 Instruction Set Documentation - Phoronix | Mar 20 21:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights | Mar 20 21:16 | |
| DaemonFC | But they look for discount card/credit card name mismatches. | Mar 20 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Then they haul you into the office and ask why someone else has been using your discount card, and then fire you. | Mar 20 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | So if you are going to let them use it, they should toss their stuff in your cart and you should arrange to pay with cash they hand you, or your card and they hand you an equal amount of cash later. | Mar 20 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Because the computer flags it if the names don't match. | Mar 20 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | If you do cash there's no way that they can flag it because it's impossible to say whose cash it is. | Mar 20 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | So they don't know. | Mar 20 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just make sure it's you buying the stuff, because they can flag the transaction and pull the security footage too. | Mar 20 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Seen them do that before. | Mar 20 21:19 |
| techrights-news | "On top of the core block updates for the 5.18-rc1 merge window, here are the driver updates for this merge window." https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/83ce22b4-bae1-9c97-1ad5-10835d6c5424@kernel.dk/ | Mar 20 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Block driver updates for 5.18-rc1 - Jens Axboe | Mar 20 21:20 | |
| DaemonFC | What Walmart doesn't tell hourly employees is that they're under more surveillance than the customers for shrink. | Mar 20 21:20 |
| kingoffrance | "If you do cash there's no way that they can flag it because it's impossible to say whose cash it is." yes, this was how creditism was justified way back when....eliminating generational wealth | Mar 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Because for every dollar you lose to the customers, you lose about $2-3 to the employees. | Mar 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | If they could do what I know about back when I worked there, imagine what they can do now. | Mar 20 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Especially to employees who are dumb enough to use those Walmart-provided cell phones away from work. | Mar 20 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | When my spouse gets off work, I have him turn it off, and then I put it in a potato chip bag and put a chip clip on it. | Mar 20 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | Then when he goes into work, it comes out of the chip bag and he turns it on. | Mar 20 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, a potato chip bag completely screws up the cell signal if it's a foil-lined bag. | Mar 20 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | So even if it's one of those phone that only pretends to turn off (like an iPhone), this should really fuck up its GPS and cell signal. | Mar 20 21:23 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, "Allow 2G" is an option on the Pixel 6. | Mar 20 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | On by default, even though there is no 2G network in the US anymore. | Mar 20 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The only thing using it are police stingrays. | Mar 20 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | So the first setting to change is to disable 2G. | Mar 20 21:24 |
| techrights-news | The 5.17 kernel has been released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162775#comment-33116 | Mar 20 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.17 Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:25 | |
| DaemonFC | https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/elise-malary-body-lake-michigan-transgender-activist-dead/index.html | Mar 20 21:30 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/elise-malary-body-lake-michigan-transgender-activist-dead/index.html | Mar 20 21:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Body of woman found in Lake Michigan identified as missing transgender rights advocate - CNN | Mar 20 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a Black Supremacy Group called Nation of Islam. SPLC even admits it's a hate group. They're headquartered in South Shore, Chicago. | Mar 20 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | They like to come out and protest (roughly in this order), Jews, LGBT, and white people. | Mar 20 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the cops should start looking into this. I'd certainly go looking there first. | Mar 20 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you're a trans-rights activist in that neighborhood, how long until you run into a member of that group? | Mar 20 21:31 |
| techrights-news | How Do You Like Ubuntu's New Logo? - Slashdot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162621#comment-33119 | Mar 20 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Has a Brand New Logo | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:35 | |
| techrights-news | GTK Twitter App Cawbird 1.5 Released! Add Option to Reload Failed Image • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162778 | Mar 20 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GTK Twitter App Cawbird 1.5 Released! Add Option to Reload Failed Image | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:36 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: stop flooding the channel with BS | Mar 20 21:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | use another channel if you must | Mar 20 21:41 |
| techrights-news | "Back when I first started using AwesomeWM I had plans to make videos on it but that just never happened and that's for good reason, this window manager is just way to comfy for me." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MYNKPjpwCmU | Mar 20 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | AwesomeWM Is Too Comfy Of A Window Manager - Invidious | Mar 20 21:45 | |
| techrights-news | LHS Episode #459: The Weekender LXXXVIII https://lhspodcast.info/2022/03/lhs-episode-459-the-weekender-lxxxviii-2/ | Mar 20 21:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #459: The Weekender LXXXVIII | Linux in the Ham Shack | Mar 20 21:46 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162779 | Mar 20 21:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:48 | |
| techrights-news | Gnuastro 0.17 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162780 | Mar 20 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnuastro 0.17 released | Tux Machines | Mar 20 21:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Millions of households are facing a 54% rise in the cost of a typical annual gas and electricity bill..." https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60796131 | Mar 20 21:50 |
| -altlink_587/#techrights-📣 Cloudflare: bbc.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60796131 | Mar 20 21:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cost of living: Calls for targeted help to cut energy bills - BBC News | Mar 20 21:50 | |
| techrights-news | "We discussed deeply when we designed GNU remotecontrol the reality of rising energy costs pushing consumer purchasing decisions to the point of genuine consumer pain." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10141 | Mar 20 21:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU remotecontrol - News: Cost of living: Calls for targeted help to cut energy bills [Savannah] | Mar 20 21:51 | |
| DaemonFC | There's hardly a reason to shop inside the store anymore. | Mar 20 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | With inflation being what it is, it's hard to justify going inside, getting less credit card points on the same shopping trip, potentially being exposed to COVID more times, and deal with my outright confusion and panic that sets in whenever I have to go to public places with something to do. | Mar 20 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | The music that those stores tend to play usually just disorients me even worse. | Mar 20 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's designed to keep you in the store longer by slowing down your thought process. | Mar 20 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | One of the reasons Aldi says they don't play music is so they won't owe copyright royalties to anyone on it. It's not like the store gets the music for free. | Mar 20 21:55 |
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| techrights-news | "There is a new application available for Sparkers: Fluent Reader" https://sparkylinux.org/fluent-reader/ | Mar 20 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Fluent Reader – SparkyLinux | Mar 20 21:59 | |
| techrights-news | Best 13 WhatsApp and Telegram Alternatives that respect your privacy. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162781 | Mar 20 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best 13 WhatsApp and Telegram Alternatives that respect your privacy. | Tux Machines | Mar 20 22:00 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▅▂▃▅▆▂▁▆▃▆▅▅▅▆▅▅▇▄▅▂▃▅▇▅▃▄▇▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁█▄▃▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂█▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 45.71▕ swarm size (avg): 279.75 ⟲ | Mar 20 22:00 |
| techrights-news | PostgreSQL vs. MongoDB • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162782 | Mar 20 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL vs. MongoDB | Tux Machines | Mar 20 22:05 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Kernel 5.17 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162775#comment-33121 | Mar 20 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.17 Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines | Mar 20 22:05 | |
| techrights-news | Facebook account required for bicycle theft victims to see whether their bike was recovered by Brussels police http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/brussels-police-facebook/ | Mar 20 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Brussels Police: No Help Unless You Open an Account at Facebook | Techrights | Mar 20 22:06 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Turn a Website Into a Linux Desktop App Using Nativefier • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162783 | Mar 20 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Turn a Website Into a Linux Desktop App Using Nativefier | Tux Machines | Mar 20 22:06 | |
| bnchs__ | wtf | Mar 20 22:09 |
| bnchs__ | gnu remotecontrol and discussion about energy bills? | Mar 20 22:09 |
| bnchs__ | oh i get it | Mar 20 22:10 |
| bnchs__ | gnu remotecontrol is some web app for ip enabled thermostats | Mar 20 22:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Mar 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's good | Mar 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | considering the alternatives | Mar 20 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | malware | Mar 20 22:13 |
| techrights-news | Links 20/3/2022: Linux Kernel 5.17, Lakka 4.0, and Gnuastro 0.17 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/lakka-4-0-and-gnuastro-0-17/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/20/lakka-4-0-and-gnuastro-0-17/ | Mar 20 22:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/3/2022: Linux Kernel 5.17, Lakka 4.0, and Gnuastro 0.17 | Techrights | Mar 20 22:14 | |
| bnchs__ | yeah | Mar 20 22:15 |
| bnchs__ | it's better than those proprietary IoT crap | Mar 20 22:15 |
| bnchs__ | with proprietary clients and each with their own undocumented proprietary protocols | Mar 20 22:15 |
| kingoffrance | ^ internet was "between" other networks, e.g. proprietary. then it became "THE" network. now it looks like the proprietary lan is reborn and back in a new disguise with IoT | Mar 20 22:17 |
| kingoffrance | *"lan" in quotes, since they are removing that component | Mar 20 22:17 |
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| schestowitz-TR | hi techrights_guest|11 | Mar 20 22:22 |
| techrights-news | 2,260 Gemini Capsules, Over 1,800 Active Ones | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/03/20/2260-gemini-capsules-over-1800-active-ones/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/20/2260-gemini-capsules-over-1800-active-ones/ | Mar 20 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2,260 Gemini Capsules, Over 1,800 Active Ones | Techrights | Mar 20 22:23 | |
| techrights_guest|11 | hello, just checking back in. was in here few months back seeing whats new. been working on some builds for some friends. thanks for all the good links and posts good to stay updated. | Mar 20 22:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | excellent | Mar 20 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | The electric company switched to Microsoft Azure for their hosting. | Mar 20 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Now half the time you can't even log in to pay your bill. | Mar 20 22:24 |
| techrights_guest|11 | saw the facebook required for police reports . outrageous. | Mar 20 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | But the logo looks very aerodynamic. | Mar 20 22:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 20 22:25 |
| bnchs__ | DaemonFC, wtf | Mar 20 22:25 |
| bnchs__ | now everyone's resorting to someone else's computer to host their crap | Mar 20 22:26 |
| bnchs__ | they're setting themselves up for failure | Mar 20 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, if you watch the status bar on your browser, it's Azure....Azure...Azure... this and that and then the screen goes "Whoops, there's been a problem. Try again later.". | Mar 20 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | They got rid of the credit card fees, but then they increased the price of the electricity. | Mar 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the issue is diferent | Mar 20 22:27 |
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| schestowitz-TR | they have corrupt "IT" peole | Mar 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | who have no clue | Mar 20 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Also, they removed the ability to set a credit card as your autopay, so you have to sign in and manually select the card every month if you want your credit card points. | Mar 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | choosing Microsoft is a symptom of that | Mar 20 22:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | because there's no reason to do this | Mar 20 22:27 |
| bnchs__ | lol | Mar 20 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The former speaker of the Illinois House, Mike Madigan, was arrested and indicted in the ComEd Bribery Scandal. | Mar 20 22:28 |
| bnchs__ | choosing microsoft always has failures | Mar 20 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | So it was his people that chose to redirect the hosting to Microsoft. | Mar 20 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | They are still there, you know. | Mar 20 22:28 |
| bnchs__ | my country's education score database still has some issues | Mar 20 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | bribery culb | Mar 20 22:28 |
| bnchs__ | like incorrect scores | Mar 20 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | the criminals love other criminals in charge | Mar 20 22:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody would complain | Mar 20 22:28 |
| bnchs__ | and rounding number issues | Mar 20 22:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | trump chose many criminals | Mar 20 22:29 |
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| DaemonFC | They're starting a project to graft DNA from Matthew Garrett into a clone of Mike Madigan. The bastard offspring will tell you if you get into public service without getting rich, "you're missing out". | Mar 20 22:30 |
| techrights_guest|11 | i was at a buddys place feew weeks ago, he just moved, and he had some huge setup for amazon surveillance inside and outside his place. it was like ed tv, he had like 6 screens he watched shit inside and outside his place. he wanted me to come over and help him with his desktop setup. didnt stay long and wont be crusing over there again. | Mar 20 22:30 |
| bnchs__ | techrights_guest|11, amazon surveillance | Mar 20 22:30 |
| bnchs__ | that's like demolishing the front door | Mar 20 22:31 |
| bnchs__ | and the frontwalls aswell | Mar 20 22:31 |
| bnchs__ | let everyone watch you | Mar 20 22:31 |
| techrights_guest|11 | so he could watch his dogs or whatever. i dont know. crazy stuff. | Mar 20 22:31 |
| kingoffrance | "saw the facebook required for police reports . outrageous." missed that but yeah..........PPP | Mar 20 22:32 |
| bnchs__ | my MSP has a whatsapp frontend | Mar 20 22:32 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yeah i dont facebook so i find out about that stuff here and few other places. | Mar 20 22:32 |
| bnchs__ | it's like their shitty service number, except it's a client on whatsapp | Mar 20 22:32 |
| bnchs__ | retarded shit | Mar 20 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.newsweek.com/competitors-sue-gas-station-setting-prices-too-low-1689785 | Mar 20 22:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Competitors Sue Gas Station for Setting Prices Too Low | Mar 20 22:33 | |
| DaemonFC | MAH FREE MARKET!!! MUH FREEDUMB!!!! | Mar 20 22:33 |
| techrights_guest|11 | a while back like few years back now, i started running into the stuff when logging in to pay bills. I moved to send to for payment instead of login to pay. billpay direct from my bank. its gotten really bad. captcha and redirects from hell. | Mar 20 22:34 |
| kingoffrance | a good question is do you have a "right" to file a police report, and where does facebook fit into this | Mar 20 22:34 |
| kingoffrance | they do not charge i suppose, not that there are not other costs | Mar 20 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Yes you have the right to file a police report, at least in Illinois. | Mar 20 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | State law. | Mar 20 22:34 |
| bnchs__ | kingoffrance, either corrupt or retarded developers | Mar 20 22:34 |
| bnchs__ | "just put facebook login" | Mar 20 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, it's not always a great idea to, even as a crime victim. | Mar 20 22:34 |
| bnchs__ | "WHAT COULD GO WRONG" | Mar 20 22:35 |
| kingoffrance | hey hey hey now, both is a possibility | Mar 20 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | Well, whenever anyone goes to the police, they don't realize this, BUT.... | Mar 20 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | The police start looking at both of you. Usually, they arrest the right person, but not always. | Mar 20 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Having it blow up in your face because you went to them is out there. | Mar 20 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | If it's a minor loss it's usually easier to just accept that you've been wronged and move on. | Mar 20 22:37 |
| bnchs__ | yeah it's better | Mar 20 22:37 |
| kingoffrance | DaemonFC, yeah i asked kind of rhetorical, because people claim "protect and serve" is meaningless and enforcement is another thing entirely | Mar 20 22:37 |
| bnchs__ | usually here police can be bribed to say who snitched on them | Mar 20 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | The police aren't going to kiss it better or anything. | Mar 20 22:37 |
| bnchs__ | and even then there's no witness protection | Mar 20 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | At best, they'll take a report and it probably goes nowhere at all. | Mar 20 22:37 |
| bnchs__ | better to stay quiet than loud | Mar 20 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | So now you're out the time plus whatever offense was committed against you. | Mar 20 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/20/2-months-in-jail-for-crystal-lake-man-who-possessed-child-pornography-took-photos-of-people-in-restrooms/ | Mar 20 22:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | 2 months in jail for Crystal Lake man who possessed child pornography, took photos of people in restrooms | Mar 20 22:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Illinois, everybody. | Mar 20 22:38 |
| MinceR | crystal lake! | Mar 20 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | If you're recording a person while you're having sex with them, it usually is a really good idea to keep that to yourself and on storage that you control. | Mar 20 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | It always was illegal to post such things without permission, or even make the recording for that matter. | Mar 20 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | But so many people put their tapes on pornhub that places like Illinois now have felony revenge porn laws. | Mar 20 22:41 |
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| DaemonFC | And you could get in serious trouble if anyone finds out, even if you didn't post it anywhere. | Mar 20 22:41 |
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| kingoffrance | what sad maybe is facebook will be justified as "everyone" has one, "everyone" has a cell phone, etc. | Mar 20 22:42 |
| kingoffrance | it will be spun as giving the majority what they want | Mar 20 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | The state isn't accepting new felony inmates. | Mar 20 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | So people like this creep get off light. | Mar 20 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | 56 days for child porn, in the county jail. | Mar 20 22:43 |
| kingoffrance | any discussion will ignore what was lost or gained IMO | Mar 20 22:44 |
| bnchs__ | kingoffrance, it actually happened | Mar 20 22:44 |
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| bnchs__ | i was complaining about why online school has to be on whatsapp, and i don't have whatsapp | Mar 20 22:44 |
| bnchs__ | and they said "everyone has whatsapp" | Mar 20 22:45 |
| kingoffrance | well its attempt to shame you | Mar 20 22:45 |
| bnchs__ | "dude just sign up on whatsapp" | Mar 20 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/20/waukegan-man-arrested-for-driving-124-mph-while-intoxicated-on-route-41-in-highland-park/ | Mar 20 22:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Waukegan man arrested for driving 124 mph while intoxicated on Route 41 in Highland Park | Mar 20 22:45 | |
| matey | leah the leader of libreland | Mar 20 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's a bird, it's a plane! No it's WAUKEGAN MAN. | Mar 20 22:45 |
| matey | /me to the tune of "cecil the seasick sea serpent" | Mar 20 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/20/20-year-old-woman-charged-after-allegedly-fleeing-from-police-resisting-arrest-in-harvard/ | Mar 20 22:46 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | 20-year-old woman charged after allegedly fleeing from police, resisting arrest in Harvard | Mar 20 22:46 | |
| psydruid | Azure isn't for paying the bill, but for paying Bill | Mar 20 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | This one got beaten with an ugly stick, after falling out of an ugly tree, onto some ugly ground. | Mar 20 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/18/man-released-on-recognizance-bond-after-allegedly-committing-home-invasion-robbing-man-in-zion/ | Mar 20 22:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Man released on recognizance bond after allegedly committing home invasion, multiple robberies in Zion | Mar 20 22:48 | |
| DaemonFC | The judges here are terrible. | Mar 20 22:49 |
| matey | azure is sure, a lure to be moored (it works with a northern accent) | Mar 20 22:49 |
| techrights_guest|11 | wonder what the percentage of the population that is aware and pushes back against the surveillance state? I personally dont know anyone else except the people in my immidiate family who are aware and do not participate by choice. | Mar 20 22:49 |
| kingoffrance | how demure | Mar 20 22:49 |
| matey | hehehe | Mar 20 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Oh boy, this one was the judge that officiated at my wedding. | Mar 20 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. | Mar 20 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Gave this guy his notice to disappear and we'll hear from him again after he's killed someone. | Mar 20 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Typical Democrat judge. | Mar 20 22:51 |
| kingoffrance | dont have a link, but part of the "survelliance state" is surely the outsourcing ...i.e. some company does it, so its not "the gov". i aint spying on anyone domestically, my five eyes in <other country> just relays me info on you a smaller version of that perhaps | Mar 20 22:52 |
| matey | surveillance in the cloud, prison as a service, courts.github.io | Mar 20 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/17/juvenile-hospitalized-after-being-found-shot-in-front-of-apartment-building-in-waukegan/ | Mar 20 22:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Juvenile hospitalized after being found shot in front of apartment building in Waukegan | Mar 20 22:53 | |
| matey | just let billionaires run everything, as if they dont already (but we can still give them more) | Mar 20 22:53 |
| kingoffrance | oh, i used to hear about lawyers/forms being obsolete and replaced with programs | Mar 20 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Lakeside Towers is a real shithole. That's the one over by the Post Office with the ghetto music booming all day and night and folks hanging out of windows without any bug screens in it. | Mar 20 22:53 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, im sure someone wants to do that | Mar 20 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Gang members and pimps hanging around out front. | Mar 20 22:54 |
| matey | its one of the premises of neon genesis evangelion | Mar 20 22:54 |
| matey | they live in a smart city with a robot government | Mar 20 22:54 |
| matey | when things go wrong the army (which is very small, and just like the real army comprised of younger people) hops into a giant robot vehicle, like you do | Mar 20 22:55 |
| kingoffrance | and, im sure it will be justified as reducing "bias' (a non-sequitor) | Mar 20 22:55 |
| matey | yes, the exact opposite of what those algorithms do | Mar 20 22:55 |
| kingoffrance | that too | Mar 20 22:55 |
| matey | "you know the best way to beat bias? with MORE BIAS!" | Mar 20 22:55 |
| matey | best of all we have real examples of this in production | Mar 20 22:56 |
| matey | look up COMPAS (i think thats how its spelled) | Mar 20 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/17/new-federal-law-will-require-cars-to-monitor-for-impaired-driving-in-part-due-to-mchenry-mother-who-pushed-for-legislation/ | Mar 20 22:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | New federal law will require cars to monitor for impaired driving, in part due to McHenry mother who pushed for legislation | Mar 20 22:56 | |
| DaemonFC | MADD is a group of extremists. | Mar 20 22:56 |
| matey | brb | Mar 20 22:56 |
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| DaemonFC | What happens when you're a little bit sleepy or something and the car won't even let you drive home? | Mar 20 22:56 |
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| DaemonFC | "Automakers will be required to implement performance monitoring systems such as outside lane assist cameras and sensors, as well as internal equipment that will track head and eye movement." | Mar 20 22:57 |
| techrights_guest|11 | "New federal law will require cars to monitor for impaired driving," . the folks writing this shit are probably impaired. | Mar 20 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how easy it'll be to disable. | Mar 20 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | I would literally pay a mechanic to disable it somehow. | Mar 20 22:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | drm | Mar 20 22:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | deere-like | Mar 20 22:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | car won't boot | Mar 20 23:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | unauthorised sig | Mar 20 23:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'secue' car | Mar 20 23:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | shim for 'secure' car | Mar 20 23:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | signed by WEF | Mar 20 23:00 |
| techrights_guest|11 | we picked up a 2004 chevy few years ago. we wanted to make a spare key for it. couldnt be done. needed some factory key they no longer made. we also wanted te safety bullshit disabled and bypassed. couldnt be done. sold it at a loss and kept driing our 96. | Mar 20 23:01 |
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| leah | i have been summoned | Mar 20 23:02 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ | Mar 20 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights | Mar 20 23:02 | |
| leah | matey: yes, https://libreland.libreboot.org/ | Mar 20 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreland.libreboot.org | Libreland | Mar 20 23:02 | |
| leah | good day | Mar 20 23:02 |
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| bnchs__ | i like how | Mar 20 23:07 |
| bnchs__ | i'm looking at the source code of some management program | Mar 20 23:07 |
| techrights_guest|11 | “Microsoft is trying to retcon “installing software on Windows” as sideloading.... | Mar 20 23:08 |
| bnchs__ | cyber-cafe management client, they have to disable task manager because normally the user can just kill the program | Mar 20 23:08 |
| bnchs__ | in unix, they don't have to do this workaround, because the program is running as root | Mar 20 23:09 |
| bnchs__ | or some other user | Mar 20 23:09 |
| bnchs__ | unix or unix-like* | Mar 20 23:09 |
| techrights_guest|11 | i know people today who really beleive it is illegal to install software to their own computer. its. there are no words . how did they get this way. | Mar 20 23:09 |
| bnchs__ | techrights_guest|11, yes | Mar 20 23:10 |
| bnchs__ | they think it's illegal because FUD | Mar 20 23:10 |
| bnchs__ | and shit | Mar 20 23:10 |
| techrights_guest|11 | a friend of mine called the other day. she could not get her browser to connect. she works in billing ok. in an office, the manager. what was the problem i said send me a screenshot. her. internet . was not. connected. seriously. could not figure this out. there are no words. | Mar 20 23:12 |
| techrights_guest|11 | how do you work in an office. and not know how to connect to the internet . idk. | Mar 20 23:12 |
| bnchs__ | this is what happens when you babyproof UI | Mar 20 23:12 |
| bnchs__ | back when you had to execute commands in some terminal, people knew more about it | Mar 20 23:13 |
| techrights_guest|11 | windows probably. i dont do that either since 7. so maybe windows ui or something. | Mar 20 23:13 |
| bnchs__ | there has to be limits to "user-friendly" | Mar 20 23:14 |
| bnchs__ | don't make it too user-friendly or else you risk dumbing the users | Mar 20 23:14 |
| techrights_guest|11 | seems like even the end end users could do basic stuff even ten years ago. | Mar 20 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | <techrights_guest|11> we picked up a 2004 chevy few years ago. we wanted to make a spare key for it. couldnt be done. needed some factory key they no longer made. we also wanted te safety bullshit disabled and bypassed. couldnt be done. sold it at a loss and kept driing our 96. | Mar 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | The mechanic over at Car-X cut out the airbags that had deployed in one guy's car. | Mar 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | So he could keep driving it. | Mar 20 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | I saw a SUV that was all smashed in the other day. | Mar 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Black guy behind the wheel both airbags deployed. | Mar 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | He was just driving it with the airbag in his lap. | Mar 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Dear God....". | Mar 20 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | I really should have yanked my dashcam and uploaded that to YouTube. | Mar 20 23:19 |
| techrights_guest|11 | wow. | Mar 20 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | I am the 1% in this neighborhood. | Mar 20 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | I have a 2003 Chevy Impala. | Mar 20 23:20 |
| techrights_guest|11 | nice. | Mar 20 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's a Rolls Royce compared to some of these hoopties you see driving around here, broken suspension parts hanging off of them. | Mar 20 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Front or back all smashed up. | Mar 20 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | They use the radiator and the windshield fluid reservoir as their new bumper. | Mar 20 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | For the next accident, you know. | Mar 20 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | I saw another Impala (a 2010-2013 I think) today. | Mar 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | The rear stabilizer bar was broken in half and just hanging there. | Mar 20 23:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Bouncing up an down. | Mar 20 23:22 |
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| DaemonFC | It's weird to see that happen. Usually they break at the links. | Mar 20 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Those are cheap. | Mar 20 23:22 |
| techrights_guest|11 | 'The rear stabilizer bar was broken in half and just hanging there." - this is unreal . what a sight . | Mar 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | You can buy new links for like $10-15. If you're doing suspension work on the front anyway, you may as well just toss and replace the links if the car has any real age on it. | Mar 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | <techrights_guest|11> 'The rear stabilizer bar was broken in half and just hanging there." - this is unreal . what a sight . | Mar 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen much worse. | Mar 20 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | There was a black lady in a Honda van a few months back. | Mar 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Her rear wheels were caving inward at a 45 degree angle. | Mar 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | She was driving on them like that. | Mar 20 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | (Not for long....) | Mar 20 23:24 |
| matey | don't make it too user-friendly or else you risk dumbing the users <- its worse than that | Mar 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | how so? | Mar 20 23:25 |
| matey | if you make it too userfriendly they start deprecating the non-stupid features | Mar 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's a vicious cycle, with usability. | Mar 20 23:25 |
| matey | "nobody uses them except neckbeards anyway" | Mar 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | You want more customers, so you make it so the stupid ones should like to use it. | Mar 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you still have back button | Mar 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and power button | Mar 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | and mice with one button | Mar 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Then you chase away the rest and only the stupid ones want to use it. | Mar 20 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | press power twice to.. | Mar 20 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Every time Mandy hands me his iPhone I'm like "How do I get back to the other app? Do something with this!". | Mar 20 23:26 |
| matey | prime the cpu, yes | Mar 20 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | if that does not work, chuck away, buy a new one | Mar 20 23:26 |
| matey | but the new ones have an electronic primer, so you dont need to prime the power button anymore | Mar 20 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot turn if off | Mar 20 23:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the batteries are all soldered in | Mar 20 23:27 |
| matey | it used to be if you pressed the power button too many times, it would flood the cache | Mar 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Home Depot has been sending me the same text message about my order arriving tomorrow every hour for the last day. | Mar 20 23:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | onyl terrorists would want to turn it ff anyway | Mar 20 23:27 |
| matey | then the computer woudl stall | Mar 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Only terrorists want "the scanner" off, and child molesters. | Mar 20 23:27 |
| matey | it was even worse in cold weather | Mar 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | You aren't a child molester on your way to blow something up, so why wouldn't you want your files emailed to the police by the iPhone, Roy? | Mar 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | Nyaah? | Mar 20 23:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: and don't forget child-molesting terrorists | Mar 20 23:28 |
| matey | /me got a remote starter, turns on the computer with a radio keyfob | Mar 20 23:28 |
| matey | so you dont have to walk out in the cold to boot it | Mar 20 23:28 |
| matey | ibm had a pc in the 80s, it had a digital cpu but an analogue bus, those were fun times | Mar 20 23:30 |
| matey | the main bottleneck of course wasnt the bus itself, it was the dac and adc interfaces | Mar 20 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | You mean the children that molest terrorists? | Mar 20 23:35 |
| matey | as to why they would do such a ridiculous thing, my guess is they had too many spare parts laying around and decided not to let them go to waste | Mar 20 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I always get the order messed up. | Mar 20 23:35 |
| matey | might as well try to sell them in something | Mar 20 23:36 |
| techrights_guest|11 | "Toyota Air Conditioning Home Basic Starter Edition. Brought to you by Microsoft." - good stuff | Mar 20 23:39 |
| matey | cant tell if its a parody or not ^ | Mar 20 23:39 |
| matey | you never can with microsoft | Mar 20 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Does it have AERO Glass or not? Is all I'm wondering.... | Mar 20 23:39 |
| matey | actually thats an honest slogan | Mar 20 23:40 |
| matey | "you never can _____________ with microsoft" | Mar 20 23:40 |
| techrights_guest|11 | https://techrights.org/2021/12/22/restrictive-vessels/ im reading this .. | Mar 20 23:40 |
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| matey | oh, good | Mar 20 23:40 |
| techrights_guest|11 | " I bought a Toyota, but it’s driving me nuts! “What’s wrong with it?” Oh, my free trial of Cruise Control ran out and now I have to keep my foot on the pedal!” " - good stuff | Mar 20 23:41 |
| matey | "my air conditioner is watching me and trying to sell me things" brought to you by google | Mar 20 23:41 |
| matey | ^ amazon too | Mar 20 23:41 |
| techrights_guest|11 | "my air conditioner is watching me and trying to sell me things" brought to you by google - hahaha | Mar 20 23:41 |
| matey | google sells out users, microsoft sells itself | Mar 20 23:42 |
| matey | they both sell out users, but microsoft is a little less stylish about it | Mar 20 23:42 |
| techrights_guest|11 | so true.so true. | Mar 20 23:42 |
| matey | google is like a guy who smiles and buys and buys you a drink before politely asking if youd like to meet in a dark alley for some fun | Mar 20 23:43 |
| matey | microsoft just hits you over the head and drags you back to their place | Mar 20 23:43 |
| techrights_guest|11 | lol good stuff. | Mar 20 23:43 |
| matey | no one will like it, that sort of metaphor is strictly off limits now | Mar 20 23:43 |
| matey | even i think it should be used sparingly (but only as a matter of-- i dont know, good taste or something like it) | Mar 20 23:44 |
| matey | (biting comedy ( bland comedy ) political correctness ) | Mar 20 23:45 |
| techrights_guest|11 | genxr hitting up skate spots and random punk rock shows in tiny venues all through 90s. there was no such thing as pc. pc was doing your best not getting your ass kicked in the pit on friday night. | Mar 20 23:48 |
| matey | pc was a way for political sleazeballs to say the right thing and get away with murder while looking good | Mar 20 23:49 |
| matey | it still is, only NOW its a virtue! | Mar 20 23:49 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yep | Mar 20 23:49 |
| matey | there is actually a reasonable argument to not over do rape as a metaphor, whether in comedy or political arguments or both | Mar 20 23:50 |
| matey | but any reasonable argument can be turned into a zero tolerance policy and thought policing | Mar 20 23:50 |
| matey | and everybody loves zero tolerance policies and thought policing | Mar 20 23:50 |
| matey | (at least, anybody who doesnt isnt going to tell you) | Mar 20 23:51 |
| techrights_guest|11 | well yeah thats obvious, but i am more saying things like just normal day to day interactions are all very highly pc | Mar 20 23:51 |
| matey | funnily enough you can still talk about it just to say "thats not true" and then it basically goes back to being 99% true anyway | Mar 20 23:51 |
| matey | things like just normal day to day interactions are all very highly pc <- thats how zero tolerance policies work | Mar 20 23:52 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yeah i remember that coming to our high school in 95 | Mar 20 23:52 |
| matey | you want to work for debian and not get paid, you have to change the way you do things 24/7 anywhere in the universe | Mar 20 23:52 |
| techrights_guest|11 | thats when i got the boot | Mar 20 23:52 |
| matey | thats the rules, dont like it, dont be a serf for debian | Mar 20 23:52 |
| matey | oh you got kicked out of school? | Mar 20 23:52 |
| techrights_guest|11 | too many absences | Mar 20 23:53 |
| matey | heheh | Mar 20 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | t was creeping into mine | Mar 20 23:53 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yeah went to c school finished all 4 years in 6 months | Mar 20 23:53 |
| matey | nice | Mar 20 23:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | some pupil making complaints about our teacher | Mar 20 23:53 |
| techrights_guest|11 | amazing what letting a kid learn can do | Mar 20 23:53 |
| matey | amazing what letting a kid learn can do <- we try to discourage it, but its easier to do that in a school setting | Mar 20 23:54 |
| techrights_guest|11 | public school isnt learning | Mar 20 23:54 |
| matey | since obedience takes precedence over the rest | Mar 20 23:54 |
| matey | thank ancient china, they invented modern schooling | Mar 20 23:54 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yeah . the brightest minds i knew when i was young-all got the boot. more than 12 absences a year = fail grade status be dambed | Mar 20 23:55 |
| matey | the brightest minds are not good at conforming | Mar 20 23:55 |
| matey | einstein sucked at it, so does rms | Mar 20 23:55 |
| matey | lets throw rocks at him | Mar 20 23:56 |
| techrights_guest|11 | yeah that was probably it | Mar 20 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, rms was a good student | Mar 20 23:56 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR: in college | Mar 20 23:56 |
| matey | and actually no, he and gates both broke rules to get more computer time (when no one was using the machines anyway) | Mar 20 23:57 |
| matey | that was part of hacker culture | Mar 20 23:57 |
| matey | which is non-conformist | Mar 20 23:57 |
| techrights_guest|11 | we had good few teachers mid 90s too independent teachers, they got the boot from the high school as well and ended up being our techers in C school. | Mar 20 23:57 |
| matey | so yes, the brightest minds are not good at conforming | Mar 20 23:57 |
| matey | but academically he did great | Mar 20 23:57 |
| matey | which is non-conformist <- hacker culture used to be non-conformist at least. libreplanet sure isnt | Mar 20 23:58 |
| matey | pretty soon there will be a code of "ethics" including no gum and no talking | Mar 20 23:58 |
| techrights_guest|11 | when i was 18 i took that test for jC, tested out with one class to take . it was fucking boreing though and I had no plans for any more indoctrination station prison camp schooling. went into beverage never looked back. | Mar 20 23:58 |
| matey | just take the legal code from singapore and slap "ethics" on it, that should make kuhn happy | Mar 20 23:58 |
| matey | then if rms speaks over kuhn (which was a mistake incidentally) instead of ousting him as president we can simply cane him in public | Mar 20 23:59 |
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