●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 ●● ● Apr 20 [00:00] activelow it is the _technical_ qualities of this [00:00] SomeH4x0r most people from UplinkIRC who bother to install proper IRC client usually don't stay for long, so idk [00:00] matey the thing is, you cant do some languages without it [00:00] activelow besides the political nuance [00:00] matey i mean you could if you forket it [00:00] matey but like, if you want to do arabic. or hindi. [00:00] matey good luck without harfbuzz [00:00] matey and i fucking hate it [00:00] activelow to keep X11 with a terminal emulator, i chose an rxvt fork, which even got CJK, and greek if desired [00:00] SomeH4x0r a few days most of the time [00:00] matey its github. its anti-rms (like gnupg) [00:01] matey obviously in the vt harfbuzz serves no purpose [00:01] SomeH4x0r what did GnuPG do against rms? [00:01] matey as far as i know... this means the vt cannot do arabic or hindi. which is quite interesting imo [00:01] activelow now, please, explain to me, why arab/farsi/hindi require harfbuzz/c++ and sabotated GTK2/3 with it [00:01] matey what did GnuPG do against rms? <- nothing, just koch did [00:01] matey first, he stabbed stallman in the back [00:01] matey then, he stabbed gnu in the back [00:02] activelow appropos GPG, i kept v1.4 of it, and blacklisted gpg-2 [00:02] matey does that work? security wise? [00:02] SomeH4x0r is Koch the leader of the project or someone else? [00:02] matey is Koch the leader of the project <- very much so! [00:02] activelow yes matey, and integration with the software i chose is perfect [00:03] matey but the point is, i still have gnupg in my fork of the fsd (under protest) [00:03] matey because we actually need it [00:03] matey similarly, if you want to write in hindi [00:03] matey you need harfbuzz [00:03] matey which i fucking hate [00:04] matey but i can find no way around it. maybe some clever person can, godspeed [00:04] activelow to write hindi, it must be implemented without any c++ dependency graph [00:04] activelow which greek and cjk could too [00:04] matey to write hindi, it must be implemented without any c++ dependency graph <- only for you, you know [00:04] matey i mean, i appreciate what youre doing wrt c++ [00:04] matey but i havent personally blacklisted it yet, you know [00:04] activelow c++ is only one acceptance criteria, besides the chaos inside GTK2/3 [00:04] matey like the real problem here is gcc AND llvm [00:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:05] activelow and for the hindi/farsi whatnot support, GTK2/3 was sabotaged [00:05] matey besides the chaos inside GTK2/3 <- well, wrt gtk 2/3 [00:05] matey i wont do gtk4 except for 3 applications. [00:05] matey thats it [00:05] matey the rest are dead [00:05] matey i dont like gtk3, id rather use gtk2. [00:05] matey and id rather not use gtk2, but a fork of it might be ok if it ever moves the fuck off github [00:05] activelow reminder, GTK devs did implement gobject to _avoid_ c++; and then one maniac screwed harfbuzz into, and with it two decades of man power are void [00:06] matey reminder, GTK devs did implement gobject to _avoid_ c++ <- i mean, gnome is fuckity fucking fuck, to put it nicely [00:06] activelow not GNOME, GTK [00:06] matey gtk shouldnt be gnome, wasnt gnome, it is now [00:06] matey listen, theyre the same thing now [00:07] activelow i mean, QT4/5 were gone already, and i hoped for GTK2/3 could remain [00:07] matey no gtk without gnome (anymore) unless its mate [00:07] matey i mean, QT4/5 were gone already, and i hoped for GTK2/3 could remain <- i hear you [00:07] activelow and i still think it is possible to fix this issue, yet it is too many to cope with [00:07] matey its a fucking disaster [00:07] matey and i still think it is possible to fix this issue <- SO DO I, fuck knows how, but somehow, yes [00:07] activelow i had wanted to hack TinyCC many weeks ago already... see the shit i have to cope with instead [00:07] matey yes, i hear you [00:07] matey even those who criticise you on the details must know [00:08] matey the overall picture is about as ridiculous as you say [00:08] matey maybe not exactly the same, but [00:08] matey if any of my associates ask me, ill tell them [00:08] matey the overall picture is more or less like you say [00:08] matey with some caveats [00:08] matey i mean if you can nitpick i can nitpick [00:08] matey but its a disaster, just as you say [00:09] TR News My 3 weeks with the SlimeVR open source full-body tracker gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/04-20-my-three-weeks-with-slimevr.gmi [00:09] matey and i think people are coming to realise this. not fast enough-- its nothing to be hopeful about yet [00:09] matey but its not like its JUST YOU saying this [00:09] matey or only you that thinks this (overall) [00:09] matey we can disagree on details [00:09] matey "its a bad scene" [00:10] matey everyones looking for a way for things to be "fine" [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] matey use bsd and its fine. well, almost. sort of. [00:10] matey not quite "fine" but some move in that direction [00:10] matey with a lot of work, of course [00:11] activelow bsd -> llvm, no thanks [00:11] matey i know, llvm is shit [00:11] matey i had no idea how bad it was [00:11] matey its pretty bleak, the fuck were they thinking? [00:11] activelow i don't say it is, i am not against c++, i am against it being _enforced_ where it does not belong, such as into kernel [00:11] matey bad enough it was github, but ffs [00:11] matey i am not against c++, i am against it being _enforced_ where it does not belong <- i know [00:11] activelow if kernel can be compiled with a c++ compiler only, that's unacceptable [00:12] matey its the lack of options that makes the whole thing a farce [00:12] matey you have freedom 3 in theory, and in practice you can shove llvm up your arse, wheeeeeee [00:12] matey its gotchas over here, over there, its a gotcha block party [00:12] activelow anyway, i'll remove gtk, and live with it [00:12] activelow i'll not bother with this anymore [00:12] matey anyway, i'll remove gtk, and live with it \o/ [00:13] activelow i'll not at least bother with anything outside the base system [00:13] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/19/radiator-flush-fail-dexcool-sludge-plugs-up-my-heater-core-after-flush/ [00:13] TR Bot Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. BaronHK's Rants [00:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [00:13] activelow X11 isn't as important, nonetheless, it is nice to have it, with a terminal emulator supporting CJK and greek [00:13] matey flush, flush [00:13] matey hurry hurry baby, run to me [00:13] matey ooh. what ya do to me [00:14] activelow i'll give Knuth TeX a try, although it is not compatible with GPL, at least chances are i can keep it [00:14] matey although it is not compatible with GPL <- im sceptical, how is it incompatible? [00:14] activelow ^ Knuth license [00:14] matey hmmmmmm [00:14] activelow it isn't any problem for me [00:15] DaemonFC This will be the third flush in a week. [00:15] activelow i'll comply with his license terms [00:15] DaemonFC Actually, more than that. [00:15] schestowitz-TR Knuth license?? [00:15] matey Unlimited copying and redistribution of this package and/or its individual files are permitted as long as there are no modifications. Modifications, and redistribution of modifications, are also permitted, but only if the resulting package and/or files are renamed [00:15] DaemonFC Car-X charged me like $99 for the first one, then I lost coolant with the tensioner job at Chevy, then Chevy flushed it again today for free and got the heater working for a few minutes. [00:15] activelow and, given Knuth promises his software and books do not contain errors, chances are no chances are necessary [00:15] matey https://www.ctan.org/license/knuth [00:15] TR Bot CTAN: Knuth License [00:16] DaemonFC Then tomorrow Chevy does the Blue Devil flush and I'm hoping that eats up all the yummy yummy DexCool mud. [00:16] activelow schestowitz-TR: Knuth license is permissive, yet re-distribution with _changes_ is only permitted if renamed [00:16] activelow meaning, you must not label it Knuth TeX if anything was altered [00:16] DaemonFC I guess the upside here is that all of the larger crap is out because anything that came out with the regular flush is already gone. [00:16] DaemonFC So all the Blue Devil has to eat is what's left that's plugging the system. [00:17] matey thats a non-free license thats almost free in spirit (but it doesnt fit the fsd as far as i can tell) [00:17] activelow i think Knuth is concerned with introduction of bugs, which aren't a feature [00:18] schestowitz-TR weird licence [00:18] DaemonFC I can see why they were calling this stuff DeathCool. [00:18] DaemonFC Glad I have the enhanced engine gaskets so a plugged up heater core is the worst of it. :P [00:18] matey there are SIMILAR clauses in (gpl compatible) cc by-sa (4.0 only) but youre only required to NOTE changes, not name files based on them [00:18] matey and that makes a world of difference [00:19] matey at least in terms of whether its fsd-compatible or not [00:19] activelow i'll know soon enough, given Knuth TeX was introduced 1976, 45years ago, if it is functional still [00:19] schestowitz-TR it's just another redundant licence [00:19] schestowitz-TR maybe for DOnald's ego [00:19] matey http://tug.ctan.org/info/impatient/book.pdf TEX for the Impatient is intended to serve scientists, mathematicians, and technical typists for whom TEX is a useful tool rather than a primary interest, as well as computer people who have a strong interest in TEX for its own sake. We also intend it to serve both newcomers to TEX and those who are already familiar with TEX. [00:19] schestowitz-TR a lot of licences already cover the branding aspects [00:19] matey maybe for DOnald's ego <- no [00:19] matey it was for reliability [00:19] schestowitz-TR it I alter firefox a little I cannot call it firefox either [00:19] matey but misguided imo [00:20] activelow and i do not know yet, if/how postscript output can be generated without any c++ dependency (gnuplot,ghostscript) [00:20] matey it achieves his goal but [00:20] schestowitz-TR and I don't need an old stanford professor to make another licence for that [00:20] matey that doesnt mean its not overkill [00:20] matey and I don't need an old stanford professor <- knuth is up there with stallman in importance [00:20] schestowitz-TR yes, I know [00:20] matey that doesnt mean i think this was a good idea, but give the man his due [00:20] schestowitz-TR but we don't have the RMS licence [00:21] matey oh youre making too much of a name [00:21] activelow problem isn't the Knuth license, problem is his TeX isn't maintained inside the gentoo tree here [00:21] schestowitz-TR imagine if each project had it own licence -- or worse -- each developer [00:21] matey look, science names things after people all the time [00:21] schestowitz-TR it would be disarray for code reusew [00:21] matey only this movement finds it garish [00:21] matey i get it, i agree mostly [00:21] matey but that doesnt make knuth an egotist, just a scientist. [00:21] matey different culture. [00:21] matey its not about his ego [00:21] matey its about cultural norms [00:21] schestowitz-TR rms and knuth both like their word [00:21] schestowitz-TR *work [00:21] schestowitz-TR nothing wrong with that [00:22] schestowitz-TR and they protect their image to the best of their abilities [00:22] schestowitz-TR the licence, however, leads to practical problems [00:22] matey of course [00:22] schestowitz-TR like having to keep track of which licence is what [00:22] matey its an unfortunate license at best [00:22] matey well, to be fair [00:22] schestowitz-TR perens spoke about it [00:22] schestowitz-TR wanting to narrow it down to 3 licences [00:22] matey im guessing this predates osi [00:22] matey and anyone giving a shit what perens thinks [00:22] matey maybe im wrong about the timing [00:23] matey when computer science was younger, we didnt have best practices like gpl compatibility. it didnt exist yet [00:23] matey its like expecting multics to be posix compliant [00:23] matey or dtss [00:23] matey posix didnt exist yet [00:24] matey so things that were revolutionary for their time, seem conservative or misguided now [00:24] matey thats progress [00:24] matey but you have to keep them in some context when judging the people who made these decisions [00:24] schestowitz-TR latex I've not used in years [00:24] schestowitz-TR but that's mostly because I don't write letters or papers [00:25] matey tex is still highly relevant, there are gny projects associated with it [00:25] schestowitz-TR latex will not age gracefully outside academia [00:25] schestowitz-TR because of all this clown and web hype [00:25] matey my guess is that tex is so important, that whats more important than knuths license or its implementation-- is compatible software [00:25] schestowitz-TR they teach people to not have files, either [00:25] schestowitz-TR just open "account" [00:25] matey latex will not age gracefully outside academia <- i dont know what makes you think that [00:25] schestowitz-TR knuth did a lot of literature on algorithms [00:26] schestowitz-TR latex may not be his most important contribution [00:26] activelow LaTeX/xetex/jadetex/... texlive -> c++ [00:26] matey yes, einstein did a lot of literature on physics [00:26] schestowitz-TR and leslie sold out to the criminals from microsoft about 15 years ago [00:26] matey knuth did a lot of literature on algorithms <- for a german thats a very british level of understatement [00:26] matey and leslie sold out <- leslie who [00:26] schestowitz-TR the latex guy [00:27] matey oh yeah [00:27] schestowitz-TR speaking of germany, lyx is german [00:27] *YourButtKicker (~5cf65485@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:27] matey latex != tex [00:27] YourButtKicker https://forum.f-droid.org/t/suggestion-to-add-all-apps-which-connect-to-cloudflare-by-default/18114 [00:27] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: f-droid.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forum.f-droid.org/t/suggestion-to-add-all-apps-which-connect-to-cloudflare-by-default/18114 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://forum.f-droid.org/t/suggestion-to-add-all-apps-which-connect-to-cloudflare-by-default/18114 [00:27] schestowitz-TR made by the person who later made kde [00:27] TR Bot Suggestion to add all Apps which connect to CloudFlare by default - client - F-Droid Forum [00:27] matey speaking of germany, lyx is german <- made by the person who later made kde <- mmhmm [00:27] matey i think i discovered this the other day [00:27] *YourButtKicker has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [00:27] matey i try to pay attention to lyx/latex/tex [00:27] matey a lot for someone who never used any of these [00:27] *schestowitz-TR just got his arse kicked [00:28] schestowitz-TR I did not spend much time studying kile [00:28] schestowitz-TR the latax toolset seems to not be evolving anymore [00:28] schestowitz-TR maybe it's considered feature-complete [00:28] matey im not sure it ought to [00:28] matey what the industry deems "evolution" looks a lot like inbreeding to me [00:28] schestowitz-TR except when they will nee EMOJIS inside equations [00:29] matey maybe it's considered feature-complete <- when things are actually planned top to bottom, thats a reasonable conclusion [00:29] matey theres an aspect of computer science that is actually scientific [00:29] matey and then the rest of course, is industry bullshit. by and large. [00:30] matey science evolves, but not via fashion. [00:30] matey fashion "evolves" more quickly, because a lot of it is arbitrary [00:31] matey industry is where the tension between the two is most pronounced [00:32] matey when industry talks about evolution, you should just put your hand over its mouth-- or at least over your ears [00:32] TR News AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163920 [00:32] TR Bot AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available | Tux Machines [00:32] matey like when a politician is speaking, check your waller [00:32] matey wallet [00:32] activelow at least x11-libs/motif compiled [00:33] matey motif has a certain charm [00:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm probably just going to flush out the coolant system every year if they can get it unjammed tomorrow. [00:33] DaemonFC Don't want this happening again. [00:34] matey situation nowhere [00:34] matey flush for a change of atmosphere [00:34] DaemonFC They put those "dealer stickers" on your windshield saying 5,000 mile oil change, but the computer is actually pretty advanced. [00:34] TR News W3C, you are a JOKE! This isn't open Web! It's a proprietary mess! This is what vendor-captured orgs look like... and what they do. Like ISO with OOXML. Take some proprietary junk and pretend it can be passed off as 'standards' https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9509 [00:34] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: w3.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9509 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9509 [00:34] TR Bot WebAssembly 2.0 First Public Working Drafts | W3C News [00:34] DaemonFC It can make a fairly reasonable guess as to how often you really need an oil change. [00:35] DaemonFC You need to check the level occasionally, but other than that, listening to a modern oil service life monitor isn't unreasonable. [00:35] DaemonFC In many cases, the sticker will say every 5,000 miles, but the car will be able to come up with a figure higher than that, like 7,000 or more. [00:35] DaemonFC It's important because oil changes do cost money. [00:36] DaemonFC If you can get 7,000 instead of 5,000, that might get you all through the year. [00:36] TR News Proprietary software! "520 vulnerabilities across multiple products" !!!!!!! 520!!!! https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/19/oracle-releases-april-2022-critical-patch-update "A remote attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." Oracle came from CIA. True story. [00:36] TR Bot Oracle Releases April 2022 Critical Patch Update | CISA [00:36] matey old buick = linux | new impala = systemd | hot rod = bsd [00:36] DaemonFC You need a good full synthetic and decent filter, but annual or 7,500 miles is not a bad idea. [00:37] DaemonFC matey, They stopped making the Impala in 2020. [00:37] DaemonFC The salesman wanted to sell me one. [00:37] matey s/new/newer/ [00:37] schestowitz-TR old buick = systemd (impalama) with mac OS X-like GTK theme on top [00:37] DaemonFC They started at almost $60,000. [00:37] matey old buick = systemd (impalama) with mac OS X-like GTK theme on top <- you just want ryan to feel stupid for doing something (relatively) reasonable [00:38] matey i can appreciate what hes trying to do. not that i want a buick per se [00:38] DaemonFC That's pretty crazy considering it's an Impala and this was well before Bidenflation and what GM has become. [00:38] schestowitz-TR we don't know yet how much this car will cost [00:38] schestowitz-TR it's work in progress [00:38] matey we don't know yet how much this car will cost <- no, so you make the best decision out of the options available [00:38] matey somehow thats not good enough for you [00:38] DaemonFC Oh it gets fun with buying a car on finance, Roy. [00:39] DaemonFC With useless warranties that they marked up by triple. [00:39] schestowitz-TR the old impala was cheaper to repair [00:39] DaemonFC GAP insurance that's triple what your insurance would cost for newer car coverage. [00:39] matey not as i understand it [00:39] DaemonFC Interest. [00:39] matey it falls apart and constantly wants more [00:39] DaemonFC $1,400 "destination fee". [00:39] DaemonFC $600 to "document that we sold it to you". [00:39] DaemonFC $495 for "VIN etching, and everything on the lot is etched so we can't remove it.". [00:40] DaemonFC Did I mention the $2,995 paint protection plan? [00:40] DaemonFC it falls apart and constantly wants more [00:40] DaemonFC That's basically a car in a nutshell, yeah. [00:40] matey i mean the impala [00:40] DaemonFC Especially that car. [00:40] matey right [00:40] TR News Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/19/radiator-flush-fail-dexcool-sludge-plugs-up-my-heater-core-after-flush/ Source: baronhk [00:40] TR Bot Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. BaronHK's Rants [00:40] DaemonFC I think the Buick just needs a couple more things and it's working fine other than that. [00:40] matey so the buick, hopefully, does that less [00:41] matey I think the Buick just needs a couple more things and it's working fine other than that. <- hurry, before roy starts saying its a pinto. [00:41] DaemonFC If the heater had to get plugged up, it's nice that it did it in late April. [00:41] DaemonFC Gives me plenty of time to work through this mess. [00:41] DaemonFC We're pretty sure that the Blue Devil flush will nail this one down. [00:42] DaemonFC GM says it normally works. [00:42] MinceR don't they also say that about their cars? [00:42] matey heh [00:42] DaemonFC It says "Often the heater starts working again within minutes, but it is important to let it circulate for 4 hours.". [00:42] activelow problem isn't if any of the recent "innovations" are wrecked, problem is if long-term stable software is unmaintained, is rotting, and disappears [00:43] DaemonFC LTS releases are crusty by design. [00:43] DaemonFC The banks don't even support ESR releases of Firefox. [00:43] DaemonFC They yell at you to use the latest one. [00:43] DaemonFC Even though the ESR is supported and nothing about the site's code has changed recently. [00:43] matey i think lts was invented because ubuntu was based on testing in the first palce [00:43] activelow firefox never was LTS/ESR etc. [00:43] matey debian already had stable [00:44] matey then ubuntu was like "testing is stable enough" [00:44] matey "no wait, wait, heres lts" [00:44] activelow the last firefox i had given a chanced was 3.6.28 [00:44] matey maybe that not how it went. thats how it looked. [00:44] matey firefux [00:44] activelow and now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone too [00:45] matey and now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone tooand now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone too <- is there unicode for the worlds tiniest fiddle? [00:45] activelow although chances are, maybe, to fiddle motif around netsurf... [00:45] matey jinx [00:45] matey wget -O- http://techrights.org/irc/ | grep fiddle [00:45] activelow otherwise, i can live with links to navigate the web, or gemini [00:46] matey i can live with links to navigate the web, or gemini \o/ [00:46] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/iclzdMK.mp4 [00:46] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/iclzdMK.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/iclzdMK.mp4 [00:47] activelow netsurf was rather pleasent, with wikipedia, and it could have been appealing, to non-hackers, to show kids, see there, you got wikipedia to read [00:48] activelow links browser source didn't seem clean and stable [00:48] matey schestowitz-TR xterm is not just ugly, MinceR there are many purely practical limitations in it <- some of those are tradeoffs [00:48] matey xterm doesnt resize well :) [00:49] matey it also doesnt render unicode fully [00:49] MinceR i suspect neither will activelow's system :> [00:49] matey which means it doesnt need harfbuzz and its also fucking fast as fuck [00:49] matey no hes already cut out harfbuzz [00:50] matey but show me a system that renders unicode properly and ill show you the pope with a cucumber in his arse [00:50] MinceR nice [00:50] schestowitz-TR lol [00:50] schestowitz-TR MinceR: the pope? [00:50] MinceR do you have the unicode for the pope with a cucumber in his arse? [00:51] matey yes its 0xB16B00B5 [00:51] matey but it will never render [00:51] MinceR :> [00:51] matey it just looks like a rectangle [00:51] matey but faith manages [00:51] TR News Links 19/04/2022: WordPress 6.0 Beta 2 and AlmaLinux 9 Beta | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/19/almalinux-9-beta/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/19/almalinux-9-beta/ [00:51] TR Bot Links 19/04/2022: WordPress 6.0 Beta 2 and AlmaLinux 9 Beta | Techrights [00:53] matey to be fair, most (if not all) of the limitations apply to the vt as well [00:53] activelow too much confusion, i mean, fontconfig/freetype are available, yet there is more: cairo, pango, harfbuzz... no idea why [00:54] matey so if youre happy not running x, you should be happy with xterm (of course you should also have options) [00:54] activelow then for X11, there is libxft, which is optional, to choose and render fonts [00:54] matey cairo, pango, harfbuzz... no idea why <- we keep explaining why harfbuzz, at least [00:54] matey i dont even want to [00:55] activelow i do not need X11, yet X11 is available, including unicode fonts, which doesn't require any of this: cairo, pango, harfbuzz [00:55] matey but its there, and pretending it serves no purpose wont make it so [00:55] matey the vt does not give a better experience than x without harfbuzz, so if youre happy with xterm as your standard of displaying unicode (it displays some) then harfbuzz isnt necessary [00:56] MinceR allegedly harfbuzz is necessary for the correct rendering of text for scripts such as arabic and indic [00:56] matey this is phrased as "if" with good reason [00:56] activelow xterm would be possible too, yet i do not trust the Unix98 pty implementation of linux kernel (security), so i am using BSD pty offered by kernel [00:56] activelow and xterm dropped support for those... [00:56] matey allegedly harfbuzz is necessary for the correct rendering of text for scripts such as arabic and indic <- i mean i made a virtual keyboard and saw it for myself. [00:56] matey i hate harfbuzz, id LOVE to say why its useless [00:56] matey i approach this scientifically. i dont always like the results. [00:56] MinceR say it, then [00:57] matey i dont like the author, i dont like the software [00:57] matey let me know if you can display hindi or arabic properly without it [00:57] matey i think youll find you have problems doing so [00:57] matey but fuck would i love to be wrong [00:57] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163921 [00:57] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:57] matey "then well have a big party!"-- borat [00:57] TR News Todays Leftovers and howtos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163922 [00:57] TR Bot today's leftovers and howtos | Tux Machines [00:58] matey the good news is that its possible to speak hindi without using its own alphabet [00:58] matey using just qzawsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolp [00:58] matey but if you want devanagari... [00:58] matey the vt wont do it properly [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 75.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.25 [00:59] activelow matey: i would be curious myself, yet the question of hindi/farsi/arab etc. are agnostic towards unicode [00:59] matey neither will my favourite toolkit for x, which is tk (which is hindi for "alright") [00:59] matey tk theek hai [00:59] activelow if i got a unicode-capable terminal, with a font, then it will render this [00:59] matey because tk doesnt use harfbuzz [00:59] matey but gtk (and gnome and kde and firefux and even emacs) does [00:59] activelow with rxvt, fontconfig/freetype/unicode are possible... so what's missing except for a font? ● Apr 20 [01:00] matey so what's missing except for a font? <- the ability to combine glyphs. [01:01] activelow some problem could be the orientation right->left, yet, that's none of my concerns [01:01] matey that's none of my concerns <- im pretty sure xterm can do left to right [01:01] matey just not in the same way :) [01:01] activelow if hindi/farsi/arab/hebrew want it, they can implement it themselves, without sabotaging GTK [01:01] matey /me can write a program easily enough in his own language that does right to left [01:02] activelow because, for them to read their hyroglyphs, they did it, sabotage GTK [01:02] matey s/left to right/right to left/ [01:02] matey for them to read their hyroglyphs, they did it, sabotage GTK <- not hieroglyphs [01:02] matey id be perfectly happy using a fork of harfbuzz [01:02] activelow hieroglyphs [01:03] matey its only unfortunate because microsoft controls it and some arsehole wrote it [01:03] activelow it is ok, and necessary, to support it, it is _not_ ok to sabotage free software with it [01:03] matey other than that, its not actually useless. I WISH IT WAS [01:03] matey it is _not_ ok to sabotage free software with it <- i mean, you can use tk and be rid of it [01:03] matey you can use the vt and be rid of it [01:03] matey even with emacs [01:03] matey just dont compile for x [01:04] activelow X11 isn't the problem; it is GTK [01:04] MinceR arabic does not only write from right to left, but also renders letters differently at the start, middle and end of word [01:04] MinceR maybe also differently when they stand alone [01:04] activelow they sabotaged GTK [01:04] activelow (besides QT4/5 which are long gone before) [01:04] MinceR iirc devanagari likes to combine glyphs [01:04] matey sabotaged = supported more languages [01:04] matey iirc devanagari likes to combine glyphs <- this is what i found when i combined them, yes [01:04] activelow with sabotaged i mean sabotaged [01:04] activelow they can support as many languages as they want, without sabotage [01:05] activelow yet, they chose to sabotage [01:05] activelow with the excuse, it was necessary, for their higher intellect of language [01:05] matey with sabotaged i mean sabotaged https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3MWpHQQ-wQg [01:05] TR Bot A Bit of Fry & Laurie Concerning Language - Invidious [01:05] matey "i thought you might" [01:06] matey harfbuzz can also render this conversation: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1LopIroSjsU [01:06] TR Bot A Bit of Fry and Laurie - Your name, sir? (Complete) - Invidious [01:06] MinceR "i knew you'd say that" [01:06] DaemonFC matey, The hood struts from China arrived today. [01:06] DaemonFC The Chevy guy said he'd just put them on and not charge me to do it. [01:07] matey he must appreciate what youre doing [01:07] matey or find it funny, or both [01:07] DaemonFC Because my car is a "hazard" to the shop employees and it's a quick job. [01:07] matey heh [01:07] DaemonFC Well, hey, they wanted to charge me $100 to do it a few days ago. [01:07] DaemonFC Glad I held out. [01:07] matey thats great [01:07] DaemonFC I told him I already had some coming in from China. [01:07] matey Because my car is a "hazard" <- think they mean youre trouble [01:07] DaemonFC So they'll just take care of that tomorrow. [01:08] MinceR duke of hazard [01:08] matey maybe they saw the picture i put up behind the counter [01:08] matey "just be nice to him and dont try to rip him off" [01:09] DaemonFC I bought some more waterless car wash spray. [01:09] DaemonFC If I get it on Walmart it's 15% off because of my credit card and Mandy's discount. [01:10] matey whats in it [01:10] DaemonFC There's about enough in each spray bottle to do a full cleaning of the car about 6 times. It costs me $7.09 a bottle after discount. [01:10] matey so just over a dollar a wash [01:10] DaemonFC So about $1.18 or so per wash vs paying the car wash $10. [01:10] matey right [01:11] DaemonFC I brought in the pile of microfiber cloths after going over the cars really good and put them in a bucket with Persil and took a toilet plunger and bounced them around in the hot water a couple times. [01:11] DaemonFC Then dumped it all in the bushes out back. [01:11] DaemonFC We're not fancy. [01:12] DaemonFC Then I hooked up my portable washing machine once I got all the really nasty stuff out of them, and washed them all in hot water with 4 rinse cycles, then spun dry. [01:12] DaemonFC Landlord pays for the water. [01:12] DaemonFC So it's $1.18 plus electric to run the washer. Maybe $1.20 per wash. :) [01:13] DaemonFC That's pretty cheap. [01:13] DaemonFC I can wash the car about 7 or 8 months out of the year. [01:13] DaemonFC If I was going through the wash every week paying $10 each, that's about 35 washes at the car wash rounded up a little. [01:14] DaemonFC Or $350. [01:14] DaemonFC I can do them myself for $42. [01:14] matey math isnt my strong suit, but i think if you didnt get the discount it would still be less than $1.50 [01:14] matey maybe a dime less [01:14] DaemonFC Then the last 4 months when it's cold and they spray salt and shit everywhere, I can subscribe to the car wash and go through it every day. [01:14] matey per wash [01:14] DaemonFC If I need to. [01:15] matey there you go [01:15] matey youre like tully in ghostbusters [01:15] matey you would have made a killer accountant [01:15] DaemonFC That takes me from $450 in car washing expenses per year to something more like $162. [01:16] matey he was always finding ways to do more and have it cost less [01:16] DaemonFC Saving $288, assuming that they don't raise the price at the car wash again. [01:16] DaemonFC Things are crazy. [01:16] DaemonFC I can stock up on car wash spray now. [01:16] matey good stuff [01:17] DaemonFC Mom's one of those old "Change the oil every 3,000 miles" people who doesn't do anything else to the car. Takes it to Walmart. [01:17] matey youre sure this wash is good enough to prevent things like rust? [01:17] DaemonFC Walmart charges her $48, which is only $11 less than paying the Chevy dealer to do it properly with the correct parts. [01:18] DaemonFC She spends about $200 a year on oil changes when about $90 (1.5 changes per year on average) would suffice, and be done right, at the dealer. [01:19] DaemonFC youre sure this wash is good enough to prevent things like rust? [01:19] DaemonFC In the summer there's really not much on the road that risks severe corrosion. [01:19] DaemonFC That's what the car wash subscription in the winter months will be for. [01:19] matey in winter you take it to the car-- right [01:19] DaemonFC Yeah, you get the cheapest subscription that includes undercarriage wash. [01:20] DaemonFC And you go through every day letting it high pressure flush all of the salt out. [01:20] matey there you go. you run your car costs like i run my computer. [01:20] matey always looking for savings [01:20] DaemonFC I did not anticipate needing 2 coolant flushes and a super flush in a week! [01:20] DaemonFC That's never happened.... [01:20] matey does flushing too often cause problems? it must. note im not implying you do it too often [01:20] matey im sure you wouldnt [01:21] DaemonFC It doesn't. [01:21] matey okay [01:21] DaemonFC The lady left it in there probably 14 years. [01:21] DaemonFC Long enough to separate and sludge. [01:21] matey yeah [01:21] DaemonFC When I flushed it, it plugged the heater core. [01:21] matey heh [01:21] DaemonFC With DexCool, they say 5 years, but I'd say if you want your car to last, do it every 2. [01:21] DaemonFC Or else you might need the super flush every 3-4 years to get the heater to go again. [01:22] DaemonFC On one of their newer ones that seem to sludge after 4 years. [01:22] DaemonFC You don't want the $249 super flush every 4 years and pray they don't have to swap out the heater core for $1,200 anyway. [01:23] DaemonFC :) [01:23] DaemonFC You want the $99 coolant flush special every 2 years. [01:23] matey you know ive never had a car [01:23] matey so i follow this on and off [01:23] DaemonFC I've never had one with DexCrap in it. [01:23] matey ive also never hiked the appalachian trail, but i enjoyed "walk in the woods" by bill bryson enough [01:23] DaemonFC I'm strongly considering having them use green if they have it in stock after this sludge mess is purged. [01:23] DaemonFC Or at least yellow. [01:23] DaemonFC Maybe yellow. [01:24] DaemonFC Yeah, yellow wouldn't cause a disaster if there's a little DexCrap left in there. [01:24] matey /me thinks of soylent [01:24] matey whats the difference between yellow and green? [01:24] DaemonFC I wonder if they'd let me bring a couple of jugs of Prestone yellow or maybe some Asian Car red. [01:25] DaemonFC I think HOAT would be okay, but yellow for sure would work. [01:25] DaemonFC Asian car red is HOAT. [01:25] matey ok [01:25] DaemonFC It has certain aspects of both OAT and Green. [01:26] DaemonFC That way it better avoids the excessive coolant system wear of Green and the sludging of OAT. [01:26] DaemonFC Those Japanese people are smart. [01:26] matey yes they do a lot of school [01:27] DaemonFC You really can't go too wrong with Yellow though. [01:27] DaemonFC https://ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com/causes-dex-cool-sludge/ [01:27] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com/causes-dex-cool-sludge/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ricksfreeautorepairadvice.com/causes-dex-cool-sludge/ [01:27] TR Bot What causes Dex-Cool sludge Ricks Free Auto Repair Advice Ricks Free Auto Repair Advice | Automotive Repair Tips and How-To [01:27] DaemonFC DexCool is the orange stuff in GM cars. [01:28] matey so these are coolants? [01:28] DaemonFC "Dex-Cool sludge is caused by neglect and not following directions. If a shop or owner fails to maintain the system, adds an incompatible coolant to top it off, or runs the vehicle too long without changing the coolant or runs the cooling system when low." [01:28] matey after the flush, you put these in? [01:28] DaemonFC Yeah, there's a lot of types. [01:28] matey got it [01:28] DaemonFC Well, you CAN convert a car over to use one it wasn't meant for. [01:28] matey but why [01:28] DaemonFC The Impala came with DexCool, got thoroughly flushed, and now uses Green. [01:30] DaemonFC but why [01:30] DaemonFC Different engineers think there are different ways to solve the problem, plus patents. [01:30] DaemonFC Lovely, glorious patents! [01:31] DaemonFC Any coolant causes problems when you neglect it. [01:31] DaemonFC DexCool Sludge is better than what happens years later with Green. [01:32] DaemonFC You skip that, never do it, 10 years later all the gaskets in the engine are ruined, the heater core is ruined, the radiator is ruined and leaking, the hoses are bursting, and the water pump explodes. [01:32] DaemonFC I had a Taurus like that. Interestingly enough. [01:32] matey i really had no idea coolant made that much of a difference [01:32] matey ah, the taurus <3 [01:32] matey i didnt love the car, i loved the owner [01:33] DaemonFC About the only thing you can salvage from the system with neglected green coolant is the overflow tank which is about $20 on RockAuto. [01:33] DaemonFC :) [01:33] DaemonFC Which is why GM stopped using it. [01:33] DaemonFC They wanted to advertise to the stupid baby boomers that the problem was solved and the car was hassle-free. [01:33] matey which one fares the best if you do neglect it, dexcool? [01:34] DaemonFC No, HOAT. [01:34] matey okay [01:34] DaemonFC The Asian stuff. [01:34] matey right [01:34] DaemonFC But HOAT is also weird, right? [01:34] matey okay [01:34] DaemonFC It's 5 years or 150,000 miles, but you need an additive package for it every 25,000 miles. [01:34] DaemonFC Or it stops protecting the system. [01:34] matey interesting [01:34] DaemonFC So you can really do extended drain intervals, but you have to have additives or the system goes to shit like the rest. [01:35] DaemonFC But nothing is as disastrous as old green coolant. [01:35] matey how do you know which one the car has in it, if you dont know the car already? [01:35] matey or is it literally green [01:35] DaemonFC The owner's manual should say which one to use. GM manual will say "Dex-Cool(R) ONLY" and warn not to mix them. [01:36] DaemonFC And it's orange. [01:36] DaemonFC Yeah, the old stuff is green. [01:36] DaemonFC You have two types of green. The standard 2 year or 36,000 mile green. [01:36] DaemonFC Or the 5 year 60,000 mile extended green. [01:36] matey and it doesnt matter because youll flush it anyway [01:36] DaemonFC In my cars that used green I just filled them with 5 year green. [01:37] DaemonFC Yeah, I will, but I'd rather do it after 5 years and not have it destroy anything. [01:37] matey sure [01:37] DaemonFC Because the coolant is a little more, but the shop labor for the job is the same, and 90% of the bill! [01:37] matey sure [01:37] DaemonFC So if you have a shop use standard green instead of extended green, you have to pay them about $250 over 5 years instead of $100. [01:38] matey this should be useful if i ever get involved with another car owner [01:38] matey my wife of course, had one [01:38] DaemonFC Which adds $30 a year to your car costs. [01:38] DaemonFC Not much, but meh. [01:38] matey why not do it less often and save [01:38] DaemonFC And you only run the risk of some idiot leaving air in the system once every 5 years. [01:38] matey what happens if they leave air in [01:39] DaemonFC Pockets of air can overheat parts of the engine. [01:39] matey how bad? [01:39] matey like $5000 bad or $500 bad [01:39] DaemonFC In a cast iron engine with aluminum valve covers and intakes, the gaskets are at risk. [01:39] matey and those run? [01:39] DaemonFC But in a modern engine, the entire engine is at risk. [01:39] DaemonFC Aluminum and plastic. [01:39] matey ahh [01:39] matey bad [01:40] DaemonFC Very bad. [01:40] matey howd you learn all this about cars? trial and error? [01:40] DaemonFC Yeah, gasket jobs aren't cheap, but if you have a good engine that's worth it. [01:40] DaemonFC Knock yourself out. [01:40] DaemonFC The 3800 Series II and III are good engines and so is the Ford Modular V8 and the Vulcan V6. [01:41] DaemonFC The first being GM, and it was on the top 10 engines of the 20th century (and the Series III is an improved version of the one on that list from the 2000s). [01:41] DaemonFC They're fairly trouble-free in most cases. [01:41] DaemonFC There's some problem spots., [01:42] DaemonFC howd you learn all this about cars? trial and error? [01:42] DaemonFC Yeah, the Taurus was a shit car, but the engine was nice. [01:42] DaemonFC It wasn't even a FFV, but I ran it with the engine light on with E85 back when it was $1.85 a gallon in Indiana and gas was over $4. [01:42] matey so you picked it up from talking to mechanics? [01:42] DaemonFC Back in 2007/2008. [01:42] matey which i stopped using windows. [01:42] matey s/which/when [01:43] DaemonFC No, I researched the problem a bit. [01:43] matey probably a safer bet [01:43] DaemonFC I bought a Kia Soul + with the Theta II engine before it became known that there were metal shavings in there that could blow it up. [01:43] DaemonFC But John has that piece of shit now. [01:43] matey ew [01:43] DaemonFC I hope it kills him. [01:43] DaemonFC e [01:43] DaemonFC I hope he's on fire burning alive. [01:43] matey hes the pedo, yes? [01:43] DaemonFC Yeah. [01:43] matey lovely [01:44] DaemonFC Worked at the TSA. [01:44] matey yeah i know, lol [01:44] DaemonFC Came home and bragged about feeling up 14 year olds. [01:44] matey wtf [01:44] matey thats a special level of fucked up [01:44] matey i used to read the logs here a lot [01:44] matey so i know about john [01:44] DaemonFC He's awful. He won't live long though. [01:44] matey cancer? [01:45] DaemonFC He has terrible blood pressure. I told him what to do about it but he stopped taking his pills. [01:45] DaemonFC And he's Hispanic, so 50% higher risk of kidney failure. [01:45] matey self-solving problem i guess [01:45] DaemonFC And high bp causes that. [01:45] matey what did you tell him to do about it [01:45] matey other than take his pills [01:46] DaemonFC Take his lisinopril and see the doctor twice a year. [01:46] matey simple enough [01:46] DaemonFC It gave him erection issues he said. [01:46] DaemonFC So he'd rather die in his 40s I suppose. [01:46] matey i suppose he can be erect when he has rigor mortis [01:46] DaemonFC If he doesn't get killed by something else first. [01:52] *matey has quit (connection closed) [01:53] *matey (~matey@zj7ff6e5edb5q.irc) has joined #techrights [01:55] DaemonFC I got a new doctor this year. [01:55] DaemonFC The old one was in Chicago and she was making mistakes and then I ended up getting so mad I threw her office into the bankruptcy. [01:55] DaemonFC Because I didn't feel like paying $2,000 for incompetence leading to an unnecessary procedure. [01:56] DaemonFC When my insurance found out it was an unnecessary procedure and a lab error, they refused to pay for it, so I had the doctor and the lab after me for the entire amount. [01:57] matey good lord [01:58] DaemonFC I don't pay a damned dime for incompetence, or if I do and I find out about it, it's the first and last time. [01:58] DaemonFC That stupid fuck at the battery store found that out. [01:58] matey indeed [01:58] DaemonFC I'm done with chain mechanics. [01:59] DaemonFC I'm taking this thing to the Chevy dealer from now on. [01:59] matey theyre notorious as far as i know [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 413.78 [01:59] matey the chains [01:59] matey its like going to mcdonalds for your car [01:59] DaemonFC Yeah, they're slammed with work, they have people in there that are on the lower end of the mechanic pay scale. [01:59] DaemonFC Many of them are just kind of pissed to be alive and guessing with your car. [01:59] matey im sure i could get hired by one if it was a goal [01:59] matey and i know fuck-all about cars ● Apr 20 [02:00] DaemonFC I know someone that worked at Jiffy Lube for one day. [02:00] matey he was done in a jiffy [02:00] DaemonFC He got fired for refusing to super glue a brake light assembly back together and bill the customer for a new brake light assembly. [02:00] matey good man [02:00] DaemonFC That's the price you pay for having a conscience. [02:00] DaemonFC No job! [02:00] matey of course [02:00] matey says a lot about industry [02:01] DaemonFC I know someone who worked at a fast food restaurant who got in trouble for questioning their boss when told to pick day old sandwich buns out of the trash can and serve them to customers. [02:02] DaemonFC They knew the day the health inspector would come and that would be the only day there wasn't mold in the ice hopper at the soft drink machine. [02:02] matey mmmmmmmmmmmmm [02:02] DaemonFC He told me you can get a fountain drink but don't use the ice. [02:02] DaemonFC I knew another person who was a waiter at Bandidos in Fort Wayne, Indiana. [02:03] matey just the name is classic [02:03] DaemonFC He told me when customers were done eating, the kitchen staff was to take their unfinished salsa. [02:03] matey oh no [02:03] DaemonFC And pour it back into the gallon jug that they filled customer salsa out of. [02:03] matey ay de mi [02:03] DaemonFC Their food is really shitty too. [02:04] matey places like that get a reputation and then people avoid them like... plague [02:04] DaemonFC The only reason I ate there was because I was having sex with the guy and he'd sneak me free food all the time. [02:04] matey heh [02:04] matey ole [02:04] DaemonFC places like that get a reputation and then people avoid them like... plague [02:04] DaemonFC I called it Blandidos. [02:06] matey y usted eugene, whys your face turning green? dont you like pinto bean? [02:12] DaemonFC Seems KIA dealers get bad reviews all over the place. [02:12] DaemonFC I heard one lady complaining at Grossinger KIA, now KIA of Lincolnwood, that they told her she needed a $750 car battery. [02:12] DaemonFC Then they put it in, and her car still wasn't working. [02:15] matey i guess if im the market for a car [02:15] matey i will get NOKIA [02:16] DaemonFC When Hyundai first came to the US I was laughing. [02:17] DaemonFC Their cars were underpowered, unreliable, and not sold at enough of a discount to a Honda to be worth considering. And 23 years later, through hard work and perseverance, all of that is still true, _and_ they explode. [02:17] matey hopefully the explosion is also underpowered [02:18] matey you could save and get a lada [02:18] DaemonFC YOu done bought yourself a car from the wrong Asians! [02:18] matey austin powers missed a marketing opportunity there [02:18] matey they could have teamed up and offered a "lada fachina" [02:18] activelow the lada niva is a capable off-road vehicle [02:19] DaemonFC No, hot engine oil mixed with thermite is surprisingly explosive coming from a 1.6 or 2 liter engine, oddly enough. [02:19] matey No, hot engine oil mixed wit <- i wont even ask [02:20] MinceR the lada niva is very capable of breaking down [02:20] MinceR but i'm not sure if renault will make any more ladas [02:20] MinceR in light of russian terrorism and war crimes [02:21] DaemonFC https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fycUcBoCXfZHxnPWIVnyrTbl [02:21] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matrix.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fycUcBoCXfZHxnPWIVnyrTbl https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fycUcBoCXfZHxnPWIVnyrTbl [02:21] DaemonFC 71 people have seen my negative review of Batteries Plus in the last 4 days. [02:22] DaemonFC Yeah, this is going to cost him a lot more than giving me my $70 programming fee back. [02:22] DaemonFC Plus, he still has to fend off my credit card dispute, or let it go through. [02:22] DaemonFC Either way they make him pay the dispute process fee of roughly $100. [02:23] matey "just be nice to him and dont fuck him over" [02:23] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:23] MinceR that's not how we generally do things on this planet [02:24] MinceR it would be nice if it was, though [02:24] matey its good advice to anyone doing business with dfc [02:24] DaemonFC matey, Never underestimate a good grudge. [02:25] MinceR of course, a car breaking down is even more of a pain in the ass if it happens off road [02:26] DaemonFC Which is what generally happens after your Impala loses another wheel bearing at the wrong moment. [02:27] DaemonFC matey, I figure if someone costs me money, they're going to regret it. [02:27] DaemonFC If you cost me $70, my mission becomes costing you $7,000. [02:28] MinceR they say if you want to go to the outback, take a Land Rover, but if you also want to get back, take a Land Cruiser [02:28] MinceR the lada niva is more like the former [02:30] matey the reason i ended up with debian was some power management bug that was destroying hardware [02:30] matey this was more than 10 years ago [02:30] matey ubuntu wouldnt fix it, though the workaround was a one line script [02:30] matey okay, they had their reasons. [02:30] matey trisquel wouldnt bother because ubuntu wouldnt. [02:31] matey whatever. [02:31] matey debian had just removed the non-free shit from their kernel-- and to top it off [02:31] matey they fixed it, so it would save a lot of drives. [02:31] matey i didnt use trisquel much after that [02:32] matey i figured if they dont give a shit, i dont either. [02:32] DaemonFC https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee [02:32] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: yelp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee [02:32] TR Bot LUBE MASTERS - 14 Reviews - Auto Repair - 6280 Grand Ave, Gurnee, IL - Phone Number - Yelp [02:33] DaemonFC "Before I went in I marked my oil filter to see if they change them because I've heard rumors that they do oil changes and don't replace the filter. Service was friendly price was steep and it was average wait time. When I got home I inspected under my car and what do you know. The SAME filter. I called in the same hour and talked to the manager and told me they always change filters and would not reimburse me. WArNING stay away." [02:33] matey there you go [02:34] DaemonFC "RIP OFF!!! I needed an oil change fast and Midas was already booked up for the day. I decided to bring my car to this place and was SHOCKED at the price they charged. They did the most expensive oil change on my car....I'm assuming because I'm a woman. The guy in front of was also a first time customer and his oil change was $10 cheaper. My car has 105K miles on it....do you really think I want a high end oil change? I should have just [02:34] DaemonFC wanted and taken my car to Midas or the dealership. STAY AWAY....TOTAL RIP OFF AND SCAM." [02:34] matey their motto could be "yes, we fuck our customers over. but at least we use lube." [02:35] DaemonFC I'm a woman and do you really think I want my 105,000 mile car to last another 105,000 miles because they put HIGH MILEAGE oil in it? The nerve of some people! They charged that other guy ten dollars less! That's almost enough to go to Wendys!" [02:36] matey when i go to wendys i just ask for a wrapper [02:36] matey it costs a lot less and tastes almost as good as the food [02:37] DaemonFC https://www.yelp.com/biz/super-lube-grayslake?page_src=related_bizes [02:37] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: yelp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.yelp.com/biz/super-lube-grayslake?page_src=related_bizes https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.yelp.com/biz/super-lube-grayslake?page_src=related_bizes [02:37] TR Bot LUBE - 25 Reviews - Auto Repair - 2010 E Belvidere Rd, Grayslake, IL - Phone Number - Yelp [02:37] matey if you want to know what a potato would taste like after 500 years in a stasis field, go to wendys [02:37] DaemonFC "Mark then informed me for the first time in 7 yrs. of ownership of this vehicle that I needed synthetic oil. Hmmm I said " Mark this is a Chevy Sonic not a corvette!" [02:37] *koo5_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:37] DaemonFC Yes, GM requires full synthetic meeting their dexos standard in a 2012 Chevy Sonic. [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-190422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-190422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-190422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-190422.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 [02:37] DaemonFC If you don't use it, you will have engine sludge. [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-190422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-190422.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 [02:38] DaemonFC Engine sludge was within the tolerances of some of the older engines, which is why they could run on conventional oil, but the newer ones with tighter tolerances can't handle any sludge or else an oil passage can become clogged up, and the engine will start running dry and you'll get about another mile and no more engine. [02:39] DaemonFC Enjoy your $10 less oil change. [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-190422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-190422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-190422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-190422.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 [02:40] *isak has quit (connection closed) [02:40] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [02:40] DaemonFC Those modern engines are built to such tight tolerances that even the oil viscosity now is ridiculous. [02:40] DaemonFC Many of them absolutely require 0w16 even. [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-190422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-190422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-190422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-190422.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 [02:40] DaemonFC And that only comes in full synthetic. [02:40] matey and the buick? [02:41] DaemonFC The Buick has the 3800 Buick V6. [02:41] DaemonFC It will run on 0w30 full synthetic, or 5w30 or 10w30 even, in conventional, semi-synthetic, or full synthetic. [02:41] DaemonFC But I use 0w30. [02:42] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-19.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-19.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:42] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:43] DaemonFC Due to the overhead valve and timing chain design that GM uses, you should not attempt to use 0w20, 5w20, or 0w16 oils. [02:43] DaemonFC You'll do serious damage. [02:43] DaemonFC If you try to use 0w40, 5w40, or 10w40 you'll eventually blow out the oil pump. [02:44] DaemonFC 10w30 should only be used in cases where you live in a very warm climate. [02:44] DaemonFC Such as the summer months in the midwest or like, eh, Florida. [02:44] DaemonFC But I wouldn't even use it there. [02:44] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [02:45] DaemonFC I'd probably use 5w30 full synthetic if I lived in a state with nice weather all year. [02:45] DaemonFC 0w30 is to get the oil flowing to the top of the engine faster on a cold day. [02:45] matey cool [02:45] DaemonFC And we get many of those here, and while we have a few really hot months, it's not worth changing the oil viscosity over those months because it'll just be cold again before I need another oil change. [02:46] DaemonFC And this way I only have to remember to change the oil once a year. [02:46] DaemonFC We're still getting snow this week. [02:46] DaemonFC But it'll be 80 F on Saturday. [02:46] matey crazy [02:47] DaemonFC The weather here is too crazy to try to plan your oil viscosity around it, especially now with full synthetic oils and extended drain intervals. [02:47] DaemonFC Back when I used conventional oil in an engine, I would switch between 10w30 for the summer months and 5w30 for the winter months. [02:47] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [02:48] DaemonFC But you have to change that out at least every 6 months anyway. [02:48] DaemonFC At least that's what the oil companies say on the bottle. [02:48] DaemonFC Amsoil's advice will void out your warranty if you have one. [02:49] DaemonFC They say they'll pay to fix your engine if you use their oil and there's a breakdown caused by extended drain interval that goes well beyond what any manufacturer says to do. [02:49] DaemonFC Amsoil claims that you can do 25,000 mile oil changes. [02:49] DaemonFC You can, but it's a really bad idea, with any oil or filter. [02:50] DaemonFC If you're going to go that route and buy into the 25,000 mile or one year crap, then you should get yourself an extended drain filter. [02:50] DaemonFC Basically they just have more filtration media. Usually about 50% more. [02:50] DaemonFC That way it won't be likely to plug up the filter with sludge and then use the bypass valve and start circulating unfiltered oil about 10,000-12,000 miles in. [02:52] DaemonFC https://www.royalpurple.com/consumer/extended-life-oil-filters/ [02:52] TR Bot Extended Life Oil Filters | Royal Purple [02:53] DaemonFC Royal Purple makes some that have twice as much filtration media in them. [02:53] DaemonFC But in some cases you won't be able to get one to fit in a modern engine bay. [02:53] DaemonFC Because everything is cramped and they only specced it to have enough room for an OE-size filter. [02:54] DaemonFC But if you don't want to think about oil drain intervals so much, you can use something like Pennzoil Platinum for Euro cars and an extended drain filter. [02:54] DaemonFC You theoretically could go 15,000 miles between oil changes in the Buick. [02:55] DaemonFC Though, why would you? The engine will consume _some_ oil so you'll not just be paying for Euro oil and a $50 oil filter. [02:55] DaemonFC But you have to plan on top ups. [02:55] DaemonFC Extended drain intervals of that type create other problems too. [02:55] DaemonFC It's good to get a set of eyes on your car every now and then at the mechanic's shop. [02:56] DaemonFC Remembering "I need an oil change" every so often means you'll be in there more and they have more chances to notice anything going wrong with your car. [02:56] matey yeah [02:56] DaemonFC If you go to a quick lube place, not only do they screw you on the oil change price and maybe not even do the job, but they are not mechanics. [02:57] DaemonFC So you have no early warning of things like brakes that are starting to deteriorate. [02:58] DaemonFC People are slobs. [02:58] DaemonFC If I'm going to pay $60 for a synthetic oil change anywhere I go, it's going to be at the dealer. [02:58] DaemonFC They do a standard inspection on your car whenever you're there and give you a status report. [02:58] DaemonFC You can go fix it anywhere you want at that point. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 42.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 388.63 [02:59] DaemonFC Usually those chain shops don't screw up as much if you can bring in a report from the dealer and say "I need a new ball joint on the front passenger side.". ● Apr 20 [03:00] DaemonFC It first occurred to me that Car-X might be slipping when they missed the clunking noises I was bringing it in for until I had to come back and say "These ball joints are bond dry. Listen to this shit!". [03:00] matey if they dont have mechanics, who do they put on such a task? [03:00] DaemonFC And I bounced the car up and down and it squeaked. [03:01] DaemonFC if they dont have mechanics, who do they put on such a task? [03:01] DaemonFC So glad you asked. [03:01] DaemonFC A guy they hired off the street and trained to do oil, tires, and air filters very quickly, making minimum wage. [03:02] DaemonFC Jiffy Lube only starts out at $15 an hour here in Illinois. [03:02] DaemonFC Minimum wage is $15 an hour. [03:03] DaemonFC I managed to cut our internet bill completely out. [03:03] DaemonFC We met the income requirements for the free high speed internet thing from the FCC by like, a few bucks. [03:04] DaemonFC So we have free internet access for at least the next year. [03:04] DaemonFC So that's $600 back in my pocket. [03:04] matey nice [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 224317 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40235 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 10 days ago [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 6.9 GB TotalOut: 1.5 GB [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:07] DaemonFC I have driven a Prius through Chicago. I didn't care much for it. [03:07] IPFS QmNYJoJ9Ugk6bzW4kiqNd1XX3pDsY94QQQpPX6zvttdDqD [03:07] DaemonFC I found the cluster to be a big distraction honestly. [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:08] DaemonFC It has light flashing when you brake that show an icon of electricity moving back into an icon of a battery. [03:08] DaemonFC It's so ridiculous. [03:08] DaemonFC It's like your car that runs on power is wasting power to show you an icon about what it's doing at the moment with the power. [03:11] DaemonFC https://www.vehiclescene.com/bird-poop-on-cars/ [03:11] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: vehiclescene.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.vehiclescene.com/bird-poop-on-cars/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.vehiclescene.com/bird-poop-on-cars/ [03:11] TR Bot Bird Poop On Cars: Why It Happens & How To Get It Off (6 Methods) [03:11] DaemonFC Bird poop is no joke. [03:11] DaemonFC I left some on the Taurus because it was such an awful car I didn't even care. [03:11] DaemonFC But when I finally did clean it like 8 months later, the car had rusted through underneath it. [03:13] DaemonFC Scotty Kilmer said he has some waterless car wash spray to deal with bird shit as soon as he sees it. [03:14] matey i just piped 0.25 gb of text into my text editor, no problem [03:14] matey it wouldnt save it to a file for some reason... [03:15] DaemonFC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F9269Y3/ [03:15] TR Bot Rain-X 620100-3PK Waterless Car Wash & Rain Repellent, 23 oz. (Pack of 3) : Automotive [03:15] DaemonFC Hmm, a pack of 3 at Amazon works out to the same price as Walmart with the employee discount. [03:15] DaemonFC Per bottle, that is. [03:17] matey im guessing sams club either isnt worth the free or isnt available in your area [03:17] matey ditto costco, bjs (i didnt name them) [03:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [03:20] DaemonFC Sam's Club isn't worth any amount of money. [03:20] DaemonFC I don't even know who shops there. I think MARISOL grabs carts full of water and gargantuan packs of toilet paper there. [03:21] matey im not sure ive been there this century [03:21] DaemonFC Saving a nickel a roll really makes up for the $1,200 wheel hub bearings at BMW. [03:21] DaemonFC Wit hteh gourmet coffee in the waiting room. [03:26] matey so it wont save a 250mb file for whatever reason-- when i wrote (if i wrote) the save routine, i didnt intend that sort of load on it in the first place [03:27] matey but if you remove half of it, it saves 124 mb. [03:27] matey its still 1.8 million lines of text, which i think is pretty good [03:27] matey but right now i would be happier if it did more [03:28] matey since that would make my life easier [03:28] matey granted im still trying to do something fairly silly [03:36] DaemonFC GNOME 42 looks a lot more like Android than it did before. [03:36] DaemonFC They're copying Material Design now. [03:37] matey they really are a fucking mystery [03:38] matey thats one goofy culture [03:38] matey first of all, what the fuck do gnome developers develop on? it cant be anything old, for sure [03:39] matey i dont understand the motivation to go to all that trouble over something THAT ridiculous [03:39] matey and then of course when theyre done [03:39] matey theyll do it again in a few years [03:39] matey its really bizarre [03:40] matey free software: "mozilla is the biggest application we need, ten times over-- its bigger than the rest of everything else put together" [03:40] matey gnome: "hold my beer" [03:41] DaemonFC GNOME actually incorporates all of Mozilla's SpiderMonkey JavaScript engine. [03:41] DaemonFC A lot of the Shell is JavaScript and runs in that. [03:41] matey /me buys a cross and glues it to the monitor [03:42] DaemonFC The logical thing to do if you're going to have WebKitGTK around anyway is move the JavaScript in the Shell over and run it on FTL. [03:42] DaemonFC That gets your attack surface and resource footprint down. [03:42] DaemonFC Because WebKitGTK is there anyway. [03:43] matey Because WebKitGTK <- theyre moving to github [03:48] matey not from, of course [03:48] matey thats rare [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 292.26 [03:59] *activelow won't miss WebKitGTK ● Apr 20 [04:00] activelow fiddled with an older version of it, the latest from 1 year ago or so, had some issues, not sure what it was [04:00] activelow didn't want WASM, remove opengl and some things, which wasn possible with an even older version only [04:01] activelow gnome chose epiphany with webkit [04:02] activelow as far as i was concerned, that's not much better than an iexplorer.bin [04:02] activelow yet, i can afford the luxury, to remove it; gnome/gnu/fsf can't without loosing almost their entire user base [04:03] activelow wouldn't want to take seat in the fsf, and being forced to endorse such software, webkit, gnome, etc. [04:06] activelow webkit-gtk-2.24.4 was the last one, i compiled, three of four years old [04:07] activelow the epiphany frontend was poisoned, with dbus, and not easily removed, so i ended up with badwolf/webkit, which had no benefit over netsurf anymore [04:07] activelow and today, i decided to kick out GTK2/3... with it netsurf being gone, if i cannot repair the fbcon or motif widgets for linux [04:15] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [04:21] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@twznfmttc5sse.irc) has joined #techrights [04:25] matey wouldn't want to take seat in the fsf, and being forced to endorse such software, webkit, gnome, etc. <- indeed [04:25] matey whats wrong with the motif widgets? c++? [04:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:50] activelow matey: so far there isn't a problem with motif widgets, except i couldn't verify yet if netsurf can swap gtk with motif [04:51] activelow should be possible, netsurf is modular, ... takes time [04:51] activelow currently, i'm trying to bring back mupdf, so i can view PDF files... had to patch some stuff, again, related to harfbuzz (c++), and some issue with openjpeg [04:53] activelow anyway, problem is GTK, harfbuzz and their poison creeping into almost everything [04:55] activelow mupdf is a good example for this again, an older version, didn't require harfbuzz, and openjpeg requires cmake [04:55] activelow at least, mupdf compiled... ready for testing [04:55] activelow next one, netsurf and replacing gtk with fbcon or motif [04:57] activelow what i can't comprehend, is, the quality minimum acceptance testing at facebook/google/red-hat/ibm; if there had been any harfbuzz implemented in c++ couldn't have passed [04:57] activelow i mean, harfbuzz broke the entire design rationale of GTK, which the developers invested considerable effort into, to implement GLib/GObject, to prevent exaclty this one problem: c++ [04:58] activelow they even pushed Vala... and then, some idiot crushed decades of man power invested into it, GTK [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 293.96 ● Apr 20 [05:08] AltLink_c52c New Issue | Encrypted message | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/35 [05:08] TR Bot Encrypted message (#35) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab [05:25] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [05:30] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:43] matey an older version, didn't require harfbuzz, and openjpeg requires cmake <- this is the thing i try to get roy to understand [05:43] matey proximity to github leads to mor proximity to github [05:44] matey both harfbuzz and openjpeg are github, cmake is microsoft too [05:44] matey theyre moving free software away from freedom, towards control [05:44] activelow i don't know who funds cmake and whose interests are served; cmake conflicts with acceptance criteria here [05:44] matey just saying theres a pattern [05:45] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:47] activelow repaired the ebuild of fluidsynth a moment ago, occasionally some configure.ac is shipped with older packages [05:47] activelow otherwise migrating cmake->autotools isn't easily possible with some scripts (autotools->cmake got some support) [05:48] activelow mupdf is back (hacked openjpeg calls, replaced with some dummy for now until openjpeg can be replaced) [05:48] activelow next one is ghostscript-gpl... [05:51] activelow attacks against build systems isn't new, reminds my of python waf, which is difficult to track, even with gentoo portage [05:56] *activelow sighs [05:56] activelow ghostscript is back too [05:56] activelow it was some fonts package only which build a dependency against cmake, totally weird [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 229.36 ● Apr 20 [06:15] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [06:32] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, April 19, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:32] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:32] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:32] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [06:32] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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DEV Community [06:35] TR News "While I was enjoying the last sip of my tea, I thought about ways to take advantage of the arbitrary file upload vulnerability" https://fh4ntke.medium.com/hacking-the-university-in-a-few-steps-84e43e3c01a8 | [06:35] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fh4ntke.medium.com/hacking-the-university-in-a-few-steps-84e43e3c01a8 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://fh4ntke.medium.com/hacking-the-university-in-a-few-steps-84e43e3c01a8 [06:35] TR Bot Hacking the University in a Few Steps | by FHantke | Apr, 2022 | Medium [06:37] TR News "While I'm an OpenBSD contributor, I also enjoy using Linux especially the NixOS distribution" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-04-18-openbsd-vs-nixos.html | Source: Data Swamp [06:37] TR Bot Solene'% : Operating systems battle: OpenBSD vs NixOS [06:38] TR News "Much like Linux, modern versions of OpenBSD are theoretically able to talk to a suitable local IPMI" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI | Source: uni Toronto [06:38] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI [06:38] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI [06:38] TR News "I wanted to get in on the OpenBSD/riscv64 bandwagon, but I don't have the money to spend on fancy new hardware." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220418.html | Source: Brian Callahan [06:38] TR Bot Brian Robert Callahan [06:39] TR News Better for the planet https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html | Source: IT Wire [06:39] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html [06:39] TR Bot - 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It was an inflection point in computing" https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/ | Source: Matt Rickard [06:45] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/ [06:45] TR Bot Only the Paranoid Survive [06:47] TR News "The company said it had issued updates for the stable branch of Chrome for the Windows, Mac and Linux ports." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html | Source: IT Wire [06:47] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html [06:47] TR Bot - Google exposed as it bids to show up Microsoft over security [06:47] TR News "Windows is an entirely different beast" https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/ | Source: Android Police [06:47] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/ [06:47] TR Bot Android apps on Windows 11 review [06:48] TR News "two running Windows 10 and two running Windows Server 2019" https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files | Source: Security Week [06:48] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files [06:48] TR Bot Shows How Fast Various Ransomware Strains Encrypt 100,000 Files | SecurityWeek.Com [06:49] TR News "Out of six issues reported, only one is resolved. The main issue received a partial fix, two more got fixes that didnt quite address the issue. Two (admittedly minor) issues havent been addressed at all within 90 days from what I can tell." https://palant.info/2022/04/19/adobe-acrobat-hollowing-out-same-origin-policy/ | Source: Wladimir Palant [06:49] TR Bot Adobe Acrobat hollowing out same-origin policy | Almost Secure [06:49] TR News "But Metas plan immediately drew blowback from developers" https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-parent-meta-set-to-take-nearly-50-cut-from-virtual-sales-within-its-metaverse-11649885375 | Source: Market Watch [06:49] TR Bot parent Meta set to take nearly 50% cut from virtual sales -- and Apple is calling it out - MarketWatch [06:50] TR News "DataSkop is a collaborative project involving AlgorithmWatch" https://algorithmwatch.org/en/dataskop-simulator-plattformdynamiken/ | [06:50] TR Bot DataSkop: simulating the dynamics of recommender systems - AlgorithmWatch [06:50] TR News "Semenets has posted updates of the AirPods journey on his Instagram page, even if he is unlikely to retrieve them." https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0 | Source: The Sunday Times UK [06:50] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0 [06:50] TR Bot Stolen AirPods give away Russian retreat positions | News | The Times [06:50] TR News "Clearview AI describes itself as The world's largest facial network." https://edri.org/our-work/we-need-to-talk-about-clearview-ai/ | Source: EDRI [06:50] TR Bot About ClearviewAI's mockery of human rights, those fighting it, and the need for EU to intervene - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [06:51] TR News "In the midst of the atrocious war currently being waged by Russia on Ukraine" https://edri.org/our-work/the-clearview-ukraine-partnership-how-surveillance-companies-exploit-war/ | Source: EDRI [06:51] TR Bot The Clearview/Ukraine partnership - How surveillance companies exploit war - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [06:51] TR News "in 2020 and 2021 we observed and notified the government of the United Kingdom" https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/uk-government-officials-targeted-pegasus/ | Source: Citizen Lab [06:51] TR Bot UK Government Officials Infected with Pegasus - The Citizen Lab [06:53] TR News "David Smith of the Secret Service told CNBC that his office has been tracking the flow of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3273240-secret-service-has-seized-more-than-100-million-in-crypto-report/ | Source: The Hill [06:53] TR Bot Secret Service has seized more than $100 million in crypto: report | The Hill [06:53] TR News "The U.S. Secret Service is cracking down on illicit digital currency transactions" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/19/secret-service-seizes-more-than-102-million-in-crypto-assets.html | Source: CNBC [06:53] TR Bot Secret Service seizes more than $102 million in crypto assets [06:53] TR News "paying households" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/19/23032643/netflix-password-sharing-subscribers-100-million | Source: The Verge [06:53] TR Bot Netflix blames 100 million password sharers for stalled subscriber growth - The Verge [06:54] TR News Swinging back to losses soon? https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/19/23032399/netflix-lost-subscribers-q1-2022-earnings | Source: The Verge [06:54] TR Bot Netflix just lost subscribers for the first time in over a decade - The Verge [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 298.18 ● Apr 20 [07:09] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@qdrezudez6jmq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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[08:06] activelow to summarize, "GNOME foundation", a "non-profit", located in California, close nearby RAND corp., president being an Iranian spy, then GNOME/GTK pushing for dbus/systemd, since the president president promised to spy to iranian intelligence [08:07] matey close nearby RAND corp. <- i mean... [08:07] matey silicon valley is going to be close to silicon valley [08:08] matey president being an Iranian spy <- according to whom? [08:08] activelow according to wikipedia [08:08] matey ok [08:08] matey then GNOME/GTK pushing for dbus/systemd <- this is true enough [08:08] matey at wonder how dbus became "necessary" for gnome (or gtk) [08:08] matey i wonder ^ [08:08] activelow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behdad_Esfahbod [08:08] TR Bot Behdad Esfahbod - Wikipedia [08:09] matey HES THE PRESIDENT NOW? [08:09] activelow was, at gnome foundation, then some type of senior lead developer at facebook, then google, redhat [08:10] matey fuck [08:10] matey and you realise hes also the harfbuzz author, yes? [08:10] schestowitz-TR Iranian spy << citation needed [08:10] activelow ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behdad_Esfahbod [08:12] schestowitz-TR it's the opposite of what you claimed [08:12] schestowitz-TR he was DETAINED in Iran [08:12] schestowitz-TR he seems like the victim of them [08:12] schestowitz-TR not a courier of them [08:12] activelow permitted to travel freely, back to USA [08:13] matey lol@everyone who gets detained and freed is a spy [08:13] activelow and whoever implemented it, harfbuzz (necessary to process farsi/arab/hindi/hebrew etc), dbus, systemd [08:13] matey and whoever implemented it <- why dont you look at the article to see who implemented it [08:14] matey the one you just linked to [08:14] activelow i wouldn't say GNOME is spyware [08:15] matey i would [08:15] matey geoclue is shit [08:15] activelow of cause not, it is [08:15] activelow of cause not, it is "free software", says RMS [08:15] activelow or, what's the position of RMS towards GNOME? [08:15] matey he also thinks systemd is free software [08:15] TR News "Within 48 hours we had 70% of the store signed up for union cards." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia | Source: Common Dreams [08:15] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia [08:15] TR Bot 'Stunning Clean Sweep' as Starbucks Workers Win 5 Straight Union Votes in Virginia [08:16] activelow last known good GTK is version 1.x; just saying [08:16] matey github toolkit [08:16] activelow maybe there is some GTK 2.x somewhere hiding in the archives, i back-tracked until 2013 and then stopped [08:17] activelow GTK 2.x isn't affected by dbus/systemd as GTK 3.x is, yet harfbuzz poison already attached to it, GTK 1.x seems clean [08:18] activelow however, neither motif nor gtk-1.x are used, it's almost gtk-2.x at least, i'll backtrack further to see if there is any clean version hiding somewhere [08:18] TR News "A few weeks ago, Rene Ebersole drew the curtain back on law enforcement forensic training" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/instructor-who-teaches-cops-to-dowse-for-dead-bodies-issues-hearty-defense-of-corpse-witching/ | Source: Techdirt [08:18] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/instructor-who-teaches-cops-to-dowse-for-dead-bodies-issues-hearty-defense-of-corpse-witching/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/instructor-who-teaches-cops-to-dowse-for-dead-bodies-issues-hearty-defense-of-corpse-witching/ [08:18] TR Bot Who Teaches Cops To Dowse For Dead Bodies Issues Hearty Defense Of Corpse Witching | Techdirt [08:20] matey last known good GTK is version 1.x; just saying <- i dont know when gnome took over gtk [08:20] matey what i do know is that it wasnt gnome originally [08:20] matey gtk3 is gnome, i dont know about the status of gtk2 [08:20] schestowitz-TR icbm emploloyes key gtk devs [08:20] schestowitz-TR they are affiliated with gnome [08:20] matey icbm emploloyes key gtk dev <- at any rate there are only 3 things ill use gtk4 for [08:21] matey preferably less [08:21] matey i wont use gtk4 apps [08:21] matey 3 exceptions [08:21] matey browser, image editor [08:21] matey and ? [08:22] matey gtk4 just means "fuck you, fuck users" [08:22] matey so does gtk3, but ive worked pretty hard to get away from that [08:22] matey if you use gtk4 to make an app, i guess you dont want me to use it [08:23] activelow maybe there is a chance with gtk2, certainly not gtk3 anymore [08:23] matey id be content with mate if it moved off github [08:24] activelow well, even with gtk2 versions in 2013 already weren't ok anymore [08:24] matey i mean i wouldnt use it, but id probably recommend it (not if its on github) [08:25] matey even with gtk2 versions in 2013 already weren't ok anymore <- your definition of "not ok" includes "written in c++" [08:25] matey which is alright for your profile, but in general [08:25] matey then again id like to know how intrinsic the boost libraries are to c++ applications [08:26] matey in general [08:26] matey because at that point your anti-c++ crusade dovetails with my own [08:26] TR News "So much of the debate about Section 230 is based on an incorrect understanding of its procedural benefits" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/ | Source: Techdirt [08:26] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/ [08:26] TR Bot Podcast Episode 318: The Real Beneficiaries Of Section 230 | Techdirt [08:26] matey but only if the boost libraries are in most (common) c++ applications [08:27] matey and you dont keep track of that sort of thing (or perhaps you noticed anyway) [08:27] activelow and the problem is related to pango, seems gtk2 from the beginning used it, pango, and i am not aware of a pango version yet without harfbuzz [08:28] activelow apropos boost, noticed a moment ago, mpd music server requires this monstrosity; removed [08:28] TR News DuckDuckGo is a Microsoft SCAM. Stop using that SCAM. https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo [08:28] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/ [08:28] TR Bot 'Restores' Pirate Sites and Points to Bing as Culprit * TorrentFreak [08:28] TR Bot DuckDuckGo - Techrights [08:29] TR News "VLC, for example, is a content-agnostic tool that can play most media, regardless of the source" https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/ | Source: Torrent Freak [08:29] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/ [08:29] TR Bot 'Pirate' IPTV Apps Reported as Illegal But Most (If Any) Carry No Content * TorrentFreak [08:30] TR News "Creative Commons Open Culture Remix Art Contest #CCSharesCulture is open until 30 April 2022" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/ | Source: Creative Commons [08:30] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/ [08:30] TR Bot Meet the Judges #CCSharesCulture: Tyler Green - Creative Commons [08:33] TR News Microsoft criminals are fighting against the Internet, EFF won't even name Microsoft! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/scraping-public-websites-still-isnt-crime-court-appeals-declares | Source: EFF [08:33] TR Bot Scraping Public Websites (Still) Isnt a Crime, Court of Appeals Declares | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:34] TR News "There is a growing recognition that forced arbitration agreements impede the defense of fundamental rights." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/stop-forced-arbitration-data-privacy-legislation | Source: EFF [08:34] TR Bot Stop Forced Arbitration in Data Privacy Legislation | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:35] Techrights-sec I would hope that the EFF can somehow be slavaged [08:35] Techrights-sec ^salvaged [08:36] TR News "As far as input devices go, the potentiometer is pretty straightforward" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/oled-display-kicks-knob-up-several-accurate-notches/ | Source: Hackaday [08:36] TR Bot Display Kicks Knob Up Several Accurate Notches | Hackaday [08:36] TR News
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Easter Break gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220419.txt [09:14] TR News Hypertext in Emacs: find-file-at-point gemini://bjornwestergard.com/log/2022-04-19-hypertext-emacs.gmi [09:20] *isak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:20] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [09:32] activelow matey: gtk1, motif, and various x11-libs do not require pango to render text,fonts,widgets [09:34] activelow the dependency is gtk2/3->pango->harfbuzz, and gtk2/3->harfbuzz (according to the ebuilds); removal of pango and harfbuzz are not possible (with or without farsi/arab/hebrew requirement) [09:35] activelow furthermore, there is freetype, fontconfig and some libxft (and even those are not required by X11 if truetype/unicode related is not required) [09:36] activelow it is chaotic; and i could verify already unicode rendered correctly without pango/harfbuzz/freetype/fontconfig/xft inside urxvt... need to test this again, exactly what is required and what isn't [09:37] activelow pango/harfbuzz certainly are _not_ necessary for unicode/greek/cjk with some terminal emulator i tested with [09:37] matey and i could verify already unicode rendered correctly without pango/harfbuzz/freetype/fontconfig/xft inside urxvt <- depends what you mean by "correctly" [09:37] activelow utf-8, umlaute, etc, ncurses styles etc. [09:39] matey if someone gives you a string and you cant display it without missing parts of it, would you say (as an engineer) that it rendered correctly? [09:39] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:40] activelow matey: depends, if i haven't got hebrew/arab/farsi fonts (nor would i want those for sure) [09:40] activelow i am not entirely sure yet about libxft/freetype/fontconfig/truetype-fonts; besides the chosen font and libs probably affect the speed of xterm/rxvt etc.; and maybe this is another reason why i had no performance issues with xterm/rxvt [09:40] activelow because it didn't render gibberish pipelined into some complicated opengl stack [09:41] matey by "gibberish" of course you mean four widely spoken languages [09:41] activelow i'll verify greek at least, because for this i got some test-case [09:41] matey i think wikipedia can get you sorted [09:42] activelow yet, greek scipt could be nice to have for maths at least; not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for [09:42] activelow *script [09:43] activelow if this is the user-base of GNOME, that's fine of cause [09:43] matey not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for <- maybe talking with scientists like the indian guy that crunched all the math for that sun shield that went up on that big orbital telescope in 2016... [09:43] matey but im sure thats nothing compared to telco engineering [09:44] activelow as said, i have absolute no problem with them using their GNOME, it isn't mine [09:44] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [09:44] activelow *absolutely [09:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [09:45] activelow i'll stick to the original TeX [09:45] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] activelow the only wish i had for them, is to take the pride for their spyware themselves [09:47] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:50] psydruid > not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for <- maybe talking with scientists like the indian guy that crunched all the math for that sun shield that went up on that big orbital telescope in 2016... [09:50] psydruid > but im sure thats nothing compared to telco engineering [09:50] psydruid Those are absolutely rubbish languages spoken by rubbish people. I am telling you they should be abolished in favour of Old Norse and Old Low German. [09:55] activelow psydruid: they may do whatever they want with GNOME/GTK2,3/Pango/Harfbuzz, i'll not be using this type of software, they may, and take the pride for it [09:55] activelow i rather disconnect from the internet and hack with the gigatron or z80 stuff, than ever again wasting my time with any gnome-related [09:56] activelow besides, space shuttle was equipped with i8086, and this is what NASA couldn't source spare parts for anymore, they may go shopping elsewhere [09:56] activelow since the east-german semi-conductors are, defunct, in favor of what is ruling "free software" nowadays ● Apr 20 [10:14] TR News BillBC is a lying machine with a private financial agenda. Now it leverages the LACK of data due to Easter to falsely claim that numbers are decreasing. Yes, well... number of tests have decreased. Lowest since 2020. We're meant to hide the problem? [10:15] TR News VirtualBox 6.1.34 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.17 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163927 [10:15] TR Bot VirtualBox 6.1.34 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines [10:20] TR News Early bird discount expires 30th April for The Perl and Raku Conf 2022 http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/04/early-bird-discount-expires-30th-april-for-the-perl-and-raku-conf-2022.html [10:20] TR Bot bird discount expires 30th April for The Perl and Raku Conf 2022 | dean [blogs.perl.org] [10:20] TR News QEMU 7.0 Released with KVM Support for RISC-V, ARM and OpenRISC Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163928 [10:20] TR Bot QEMU 7.0 Released with KVM Support for RISC-V, ARM and OpenRISC Improvements | Tux Machines [10:22] TR News BillBC is turning the British public into careless COVIDiots so that rich sociopaths who don't mingle with the 'hoi polloi' can get richer [10:45] TR News With About 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in Hospital (Worse in More Than a Year!) 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They don't care about GNU/Linux either. They're Microsoft pushers. [12:18] TR News Ubuntu 22.04 LTS: Screenshot Tour Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163931 [12:18] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 LTS: Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines [12:24] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:24] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [12:27] psydruid Team Mono/GNOME? [12:27] TR News daedalOS - desktop environment in the web browser Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163932 [12:27] TR Bot daedalOS - desktop environment in the web browser | Tux Machines [12:28] TR News 6 Linux distributions to revive an old laptop or PC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163933 [12:28] TR Bot 6 Linux distributions to revive an old laptop or PC | Tux Machines [12:32] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [12:33] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [12:37] activelow schestowitz-TR: branding ? [12:59] TR News Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/covid-perspective/ [12:59] TR Bot Blog Archive Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout) [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 308.61 ● Apr 20 [13:00] TR News SUSE Announces Adaptable Linux Platform for SUSE Linux Enterprise Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163934 [13:00] TR Bot SUSE Announces Adaptable Linux Platform for SUSE Linux Enterprise | Tux Machines [13:00] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163935 [13:00] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:00] TR News Stable Kernels: 5.17.4, 5.15.35, 5.10.112, 5.4.190, 4.19.239, 4.14.276, and 4.9.311 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163936 [13:00] TR Bot Stable Kernels: 5.17.4, 5.15.35, 5.10.112, 5.4.190, 4.19.239, 4.14.276, and 4.9.311 | Tux Machines [13:00] TR News The easiest way to learn Linux for students Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163937 [13:00] TR Bot The easiest way to learn Linux for students | Tux Machines [13:09] activelow cool, someone wrapped netsurf browser into motif widgets... git-clone from the evilness ... diff patch ... done :) [13:10] AltLink_c52c New Issue | Encrypted message | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/36 [13:10] TR Bot Encrypted message (#36) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab [13:15] SomeH4x0r did it really move to framagit from disroot? 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[13:18] TR News Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 'Missing' (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Being Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (It's Only Getting Worse) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/no-sign-of-covid-slowing-down/ [13:18] TR Bot Blog Archive Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 Missing (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Being Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (Its Only Getting Worse) [13:20] *wybpip[m] (~wybpipmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:f452) has joined #techrights [13:21] *wybpip[m] (~wybpipmat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:f452) has left #techrights [13:22] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:31] TR News Upgrade Ubuntu Server 20.04 to 22.04 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-8_cQa6AjSw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [13:31] TR Bot Upgrade Ubuntu Server 20.04 to 22.04 - Invidious [13:34] TR News Volla Phone 22 runs Ubuntu Touch or a Google-free Android OS (Crowdfunding) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163909#comment-33395 [13:34] TR Bot Volla Phone 22 runs Ubuntu Touch or a privacy-focused Android fork... or both (crowdfunding) | Tux Machines [13:35] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:42] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:46] XRevan86 https://r.nf/the2b9 oh, there's a translation [13:46] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r.nf | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://r.nf/the2b9 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://r.nf/the2b9 [13:46] TR Bot people we have a hole in the floor.. - r/collapse [13:47] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [13:47] TR News Ditch Office 365: 3 free Microsoft office alternatives for Windows, Linux and macOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163938 [13:47] TR Bot Ditch Office 365: 3 free Microsoft office alternatives for Windows, Linux and macOS | Tux Machines [13:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163939 [13:47] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:49] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: in flakon it shows only comments [13:49] schestowitz-TR not original or video or image [13:49] schestowitz-TR the web is a piece of shit [13:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://i.redd.it/j00g70tq97o81.png [13:50] XRevan86 r.nf is libreddit [13:51] TR News Re: The Mechanical Keyboard Addiction gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220420-re-keyboards.gmi "They were heavy and sturdy." [13:52] schestowitz thanks [13:52] schestowitz direc link to images is always good [13:52] schestowitz no programs running in the background [13:53] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [13:54] TR News No! If you use this piece of crap, a TOY called WSL, you are HELPING MICROSOFT in its ATTACK on GNU/Linux. Install proper distros. https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/ [13:54] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/ [13:54] TR Bot I install Linux or use the Windows Subsystem? discover it - LinuxStoney [13:54] TR News IBM vendor locked for the back end https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/20/deploy-keycloak-single-sign-ansible [13:54] TR Bot Deploy Keycloak single sign-on with Ansible | Red Hat Developer [13:56] AltLink_c52c [:R] schestowitz-TR: the web is a piece of shit <- Correction, the surfaceweb is. Take the red pill to dive into the darkweb. It is more fun than surfaceweb [13:56] AltLink_c52c [:R] There is generic anon forum if you want to waste|spend|enjoy your time. [13:56] TR News "The speedup for ordinary C++ code is dramatic I regularly see a 7x performance improvement. For example, on this machine, startup on gdb itself drops from 2.2 seconds to 0.3 seconds." https://tromey.com/blog/?p=1084 [13:56] TR Bot Faster GDB Startup The Cliffs of Inanity [13:56] schestowitz-TR AltLink_c52c: there is no "dark" web [13:57] schestowitz-TR it's just a damon/demonisation term [13:57] schestowitz-TR some script kiddie who try to sound edgy [13:57] schestowitz-TR adopted the term [13:57] XRevan86 The original: https://t.me/morozovaeva000/7 [13:57] TR Bot Telegram: Contact @morozovaeva000 [13:57] schestowitz-TR and some idiots like "web3" use that to sell their scams and (pyramid) schemes [13:58] schestowitz-TR AltLink_c52c: case of point, [13:58] schestowitz-TR XRevan86 just posted one photo [13:58] schestowitz-TR it's a simple drawing [13:58] schestowitz-TR static [13:58] schestowitz-TR I had to press OK on about 30 dialogues just for it to open [13:59] schestowitz-TR because I use a "bad" browser [13:59] schestowitz-TR we don't need to fix this [13:59] schestowitz-TR we cannot [13:59] schestowitz-TR we should throw it away [13:59] schestowitz-TR like a use Kleenex [13:59] schestowitz-TR and try to create something better [13:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: To open t.me or r.nf? ● Apr 20 [14:00] schestowitz (cheeta) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D565.jpg [14:00] schestowitz-TR that's how to share photos [14:00] schestowitz-TR *cheetah [14:00] schestowitz-TR for MinceR [14:00] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: to click on that and see an image with Russian language [14:00] schestowitz-TR in rekonq [14:01] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [14:01] TR News "Set mostly in Zambia, "The Old Drift" follows the intertwined lives of three families from the early 1900s to the near future. The vast scope is grounded by detailed descriptions of specific events in the characters' lives." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-04-22_the-old-drift.gmi [14:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ah, Telegram doesn't give the image that easily. There is a direct link at least, but it cannot be taken from the page. But I only shared that as reference, that this strip is created by Eva Morozova. [14:02] TR News Mindless buzzword-dropping by clueless IBM https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/artificial-intelligence-ai-4-priorities-cios [14:02] TR Bot Artificial Intelligence (AI) strategy: 4 priorities for CIOs | The Enterprisers Project [14:04] TR News ICBM is promoting disinformation and fake news, blaming the victims of a failing economy, using nonsensical myths like "Great Resignation" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-leadership-3-best-practices ICBM deserves a boycott, I think. Like Microsoft criminals, it's a force of occupation... [14:04] TR Bot IT leadership: 3 best practices to strengthen today's teams | The Enterprisers Project [14:08] schestowitz-TR as a sanity check (a word ICM says it's a bad term that should be avoided) [14:08] schestowitz-TR am I off my rocker here or it is widely accepted that this ICBM myth, which [14:08] schestowitz-TR it spreads every week, is basically blame-shifting to the victim? [14:08] schestowitz-TR like microsoft blaming the attackers or the victims for security issues? [14:11] TR News "So I've been working on improving LO text layout performance, as specified by the TDF tender. As it says, text layout in LO can be rather slow, because of problems like repeated text layout calls for the same text." http://llunak.blogspot.com/2022/04/improving-text-layout-performance.html [14:11] TR Bot llunak: Improving text layout performance [14:11] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163940 [14:11] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:11] TR News A Linux in 10 megabytes? This is Tiny Core Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163941 [14:11] TR Bot A Linux in 10 megabytes? This is Tiny Core Linux | Tux Machines [14:12] TR News Petter Reinholdtsen (Debian): "Recently I wanted to upgrade the firmware of my thinkpad, and located the firmware download page from Lenovo (which annoyingly do not allow access via Tor, forcing me to hand them more personal information that I would like)." [14:13] TR News More Gulag surveillance inside your home. '1984' is here already. https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/ [14:13] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/ [14:13] TR Bot Google's Arduino-powered devices provide soothing signals | Arduino Blog [14:16] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english finally [14:16] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: novayagazeta.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english [14:16] TR Bot . - novayagazeta.eu [14:18] TR News "The evaluation kit adopts the 32-bit Arm Cortex-M4F MCU which has a maximum frequency of 120MHz. Other relevant features include a Floating Point Unit (FPU), a Memory Protection Unit (MPU), 256KB SRAM and a 32-channel Direct Memory Access Controller (DMAC)." https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ [14:18] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ [14:18] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ ) [14:18] TR News Linux Computing on an Android Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163942 [14:18] TR Bot Linux Computing on an Android | Tux Machines [14:19] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: it had me connect to about 7 domains [14:19] schestowitz-TR and then spewed out a blank page at me [14:20] TR News PS4 Release: Nobara OS (Linux Distro) + Max Payne 3 and GTA 4 Full Screen Gameplay https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/ [14:20] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: wololo.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/ [14:20] TR Bot Release: Nobara OS (Linux Distro) + Max Payne 3 and GTA 4 Full Screen Gameplay - Wololo.net [14:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [14:22] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2204162 [14:23] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6218cao2sfr81.jpg created on 2022-04-16 00:17:05.467330 [14:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: Uh, JS is disabled then? [14:24] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:24] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:28] XRevan86 Well, someone made a JS-heavy website it seems %). [14:30] schestowitz-TR so it's not even a web page anymore [14:31] schestowitz-TR it's like Adobe Flash [14:33] TR News Laura Tucker has just issued attention-shifting propaganda for Netflix. Gross. [14:34] XRevan86 No Atom/RSS feed either, bummer. [14:36] TR News OSI has just changed its Web site [14:38] TR News OSI now calls its blog "Voices of Open Source". But some of these voices are MICROSOFT employees pushing PROPRIETARY GitHub!! Appalling. [14:38] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:38] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: obsolete then [14:38] schestowitz-TR not to mention technical debt [14:38] schestowitz-TR this URL will be dead in the next 5 years [14:39] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [14:48] TR News Peter 'CzP' Czanik should know better than to issue this post, helping Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. WSL is a weapon against us, it should be thrown in the bin. https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/windows-subystem-for-linux/ [14:48] TR Bot Windows made easy: Windows Subystem for Linux | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [14:48] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163943 [14:48] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:49] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] TR News geteltorito make CD firmware upgrades a breeze https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/geteltorito_make_CD_firmware_upgrades_a_breeze.html [14:54] TR Bot Petter Reinholdtsen: geteltorito make CD firmware upgrades a breeze ● Apr 20 [15:03] TR News [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next - John Ogness https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220419234637.357112-1-john.ogness@linutronix.de/ Source: linutronix [15:03] TR Bot [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next - John Ogness [15:03] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:04] TR News Announcing HPVM 2.0 Release - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums https://discourse.llvm.org/t/announcing-hpvm-2-0-release/61888 Source: discourse [15:04] TR Bot Announcing HPVM 2.0 Release - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums [15:05] TR News "The first thing to install was f-droid [2] as the app repository. F-droid has a repository of thousands of free software Android apps as well as some apps that are slightly less free which are tagged appropriately." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/04/20/android-without-play/ [15:05] TR Bot Android Without Play etbe - Russell Coker [15:06] TR News AlmaLinux 9.0 Beta Released for Community Testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163944 [15:06] TR Bot AlmaLinux 9.0 Beta Released for Community Testing | Tux Machines [15:08] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [15:10] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@vqjjbheck86he.irc) has joined #techrights [15:12] TR News "Linux" does not have folders. It has directories. https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/ [15:12] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/ [15:12] TR Bot space by compressing files and folders in Linux - LinuxStoney [15:15] TR News Those are NOT "Linux commands". Linux is a kernel. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657592/using-whereis-whatis-and-which-to-find-out-about-commands-on-linux.html [15:15] TR Bot Using whereis, whatis, and which to find out about commands on Linux | Network World [15:17] TR News No, it's proprietary software and it is controlled by criminals who put back doors in everything, so it should be avoided, abandoned. https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/ [15:17] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/ [15:17] TR Bot we ever see a free version of Office on Linux? - LinuxStoney [15:19] TR News The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163945 [15:19] TR Bot The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld | Tux Machines [15:20] TR News st/mesa: Replace glsl_to_tgsi() with glsl_to_nir() and nir_to_tgsi(). (!8044) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/8044 Mesa: Microsoft's ANTI-LINUX OK, old code bye-bye [15:20] TR Bot st/mesa: Replace glsl_to_tgsi() with glsl_to_nir() and nir_to_tgsi(). (!8044) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [15:22] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163946 [15:22] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:23] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163947 [15:23] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:23] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [15:24] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:24] TR News Ubuntu/Canonical clownwashing https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud they used to have more technical people. This is marketing BS. [15:24] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud [15:24] TR Bot next-gen open source financial services cloud | Ubuntu [15:25] TR News Buzzwords from ICBM too https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/mainframe-edge-red-hat-enterprise-linux-ibm-z16-next-generation-ibm-zsystems [15:25] TR Bot From the mainframe to the edge: Red Hat Enterprise Linux for IBM z16 the next generation of IBM zSystems [15:26] TR News md-toc version 8.1.3 (beta) released on 20 April 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-toc [15:26] TR Bot Md-toc - Free Software Directory [15:27] TR News FOSSlife Team now shilling the 'diploma mill' of its umbrella, LPI. It's not even about Linux!! https://www.fosslife.org/lpi-adds-web-development-essentials-program [15:27] TR Bot LPI Adds Web Development Essentials Program [15:28] TR News Online session: The future of Router Freedom in Austria - FSFE https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220420-01.en.html Source: gulag deutschland [15:28] TR Bot Online session: The future of Router Freedom in Austria - FSFE [15:29] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@8mcrbcstydsi2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:29] TR News "The Taguette app is a free and open source qualitative research tool. It is also a web-based self-hosted solution that anyone can install on his local machine or web server." https://medevel.com/taguette-research/ [15:29] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/taguette-research/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/taguette-research/ [15:29] TR Bot Taguette is an open-source collaborative qualitative analysis tool [15:30] XRevan86 "this URL will be dead in the next 5 years" <- No way of knowing. [15:30] TR News "Manuskript is a free, open-source feature-rich writing tools for carrier writers. It is customized for novel writers who write fiction." https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/ [15:30] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/ [15:30] TR Bot Manuskript an open-source novel writing assistant app for Windows, Linux, and macOS [15:30] MinceR "This tape will self-destruct in 5 seconds" [15:31] schestowitz-TR one can guess [15:31] schestowitz-TR based on the CMS [15:31] schestowitz-TR and the complexity and volatility of it [15:32] TR News https://medevel.com/duckdb/ [15:32] TR Bot DuckDB is an in-process SQL OLAP database management system [15:32] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ [15:32] TR News DuckDB is an in-process SQL OLAP database management system https://medevel.com/duckdb/ [15:32] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ [15:34] TR News Try Kubernetes 1.24 release candidate with MicroK8s | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s Source: ubuntu [15:34] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s [15:34] TR Bot Kubernetes 1.24 release candidate with MicroK8s | Ubuntu [15:35] TR News The Stream of Time (180358) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/stream-of-time/ Source: publicdomainreview [15:35] TR Bot The Stream of Time (180358) The Public Domain Review [15:35] TR News xkcd: Entwives https://xkcd.com/2609/ Source: xkcd [15:35] TR Bot Entwives [15:35] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2609/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2609/ [15:36] TR News Added 3 minutes ago: Distributing freedom: How package managers empower software users (slides) https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/distributing-freedom-how-package-managers-empower-software-users-slides/ [15:36] TR Bot Distributing freedom: How package managers empower software users (slides) GNU MediaGoblin [15:36] TR News The Arduino IDE 2.0 now speaks your language Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [15:36] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/ [15:37] TR Bot The Arduino IDE 2.0 now speaks your language Arduino Blog [15:37] TR News Cooler Master Pi Case 40 V2 launched together with 3D printable assets - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [15:37] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/ [15:37] TR Bot Cooler Master Pi Case 40 V2 launched together with 3D printable assets - CNX Software [15:40] TR News Social control media = waste of time. "Ever think about how most of the debates we have on social media seem to fade in and die out after a day or so?" https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/ [15:40] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/ [15:40] TR Bot The Great Stirrup Controversy: Lynn White, Jr.s Spicy Medieval Take [15:42] TR News "It is insane to me that cryptocurrencies are still a thing." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/clever-cryptocurrency-theft.html [15:42] TR Bot Cryptocurrency Theft - Schneier on Security [15:47] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:48] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 20 [16:01] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2204161 [16:01] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0ivcsqdbb4t81.jpg created on 2022-04-16 00:10:21.429735 [16:04] TR News Best Linux distro for beginners (2022) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163948 [16:04] TR Bot Best Linux distro for beginners (2022) | Tux Machines [16:06] TR News "North American business development manager for IIoT and Linux." https://www.ebmag.com/wago-names-tyrone-visser-business-development-manager-for-iiot-and-linux/ [16:06] TR Bot Wago names Tyrone Visser business development manager for IIoT and Linux - Electrical Business [16:07] TR News "Sockets allow networked software to communicate. They were first implemented in the 4.2BSD Unix operating system, which was created at the University of California, Berkeley, in 1983." https://www.howtogeek.com/787892/how-to-read-data-from-a-socket-in-bash-on-linux/ [16:07] TR Bot How to Read Data From a Socket in Bash on Linux [16:08] TR News "Rocky Linux aims to be "100% bug-for-bug compatible" with Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and is one of several potential distributions you can migrate to from CentOS as we used to know it. 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Fake news by lousy sites. https://itsubuntu.com/ubuntu-22-04-lts-released/ [16:40] TR Bot 22.04 LTS Jammy Jellyfish Released : Download ISO And Upgrade | Itsubuntu.com [16:41] TR News "AlmaLinux OS is a Linux distribution that aims to be a drop-in replacement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and is one of several potential distributions you can migrate to from CentOS as we used to know it. 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Here is my compilation of four cheat sheets that I find useful." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/favorite-cheat-sheets [17:06] TR Bot cheat sheets I can't live without | Opensource.com [17:12] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [17:15] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@2kk6i2ed9nk9s.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] MinceR https://neilmadden.blog/2022/04/19/psychic-signatures-in-java/ [17:23] TR Bot CVE-2022-21449: Psychic Signatures in Java Neil Madden [17:27] TR News Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/after-easter/ [17:27] TR Bot Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) [17:32] TR News Video: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview http://www.montanalinux.org/almalinux9beta-overview-20220420.html [17:32] TR Bot AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview | www.montanalinux.org [17:33] TR News Skullgirls 2nd Encore Umbrella update and DLC out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [17:33] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/ [17:33] TR Bot 2nd Encore Umbrella update and DLC out now | GamingOnLinux [17:33] TR News Clickbaity buzzwords https://www.fosslife.org/chaos-engineering-explained [17:33] SomeH4x0r fuck DLCs [17:34] TR Bot Chaos Engineering Explained [17:34] TR News itsubuntu is becoming a nasty, malicious, fake news site. NO, it's NOT released yet. https://itsubuntu.com/ubuntu-budgie-22-04-lts-released/ [17:34] TR Bot Budgie 22.04 LTS Released | Itsubuntu.com [17:40] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:43] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:45] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:48] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:48] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] *CrystalMath (~coderain@kwwetqz7wbsp8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:56] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22041564 [17:56] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bf1ea4kj4br81.jpg created on 2022-04-15 23:12:08.026080 [17:58] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) ● Apr 20 [18:00] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [18:11] AltLink_c52c New Issue | Read the latest posts - "US Tax Day 2022. How leaving it to the last day impacts tax sites" | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/37 [18:11] TR Bot Read the latest posts - "US Tax Day 2022. How leaving it to the last day impacts tax sites" (#37) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab [18:12] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [18:13] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@aznruqq9uvrec.irc) has joined #techrights [18:21] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [18:23] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [18:28] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [18:28] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [18:29] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@agkps5rm7zn9y.irc) has joined #techrights [18:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[19:15] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW [19:15] TR Bot Imgur into cats? - Album on Imgur [19:15] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW [19:16] TR News itsubuntu seems to have become a deeply rogue site, fabricating news for clicks [19:19] TR News How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163956 [19:19] TR Bot How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? | Tux Machines [19:19] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163957 [19:19] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:22] TR News Notepad Next - Notepad++ Re-implementation with Linux Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163958 [19:22] TR Bot Notepad Next - Notepad++ Re-implementation with Linux Support | Tux Machines [19:22] TR News Ubuntu 20.04 vs 22.04: What Has Changed Between the Two LTS Releases? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163959 [19:22] TR Bot Ubuntu 20.04 vs 22.04: What Has Changed Between the Two LTS Releases? | Tux Machines ● Apr 20 [20:00] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:06] TR News ONLYOFFICE + ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors make for a great in-house cloud-based document system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163960 [20:06] TR Bot ONLYOFFICE + ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors make for a great in-house cloud-based document system | Tux Machines [20:06] TR News Stellar Repair for MySQL: Linux Version Review Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163961 [20:06] TR Bot Stellar Repair for MySQL: Linux Version Review | Tux Machines [20:10] *Erroneous (~b9dc6527@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:13] TR News [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support - joao https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220420004241.2093-1-joao@overdrivepizza.com/ Source: overdrivepizza [20:13] TR Bot [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support - joao [20:14] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [20:18] Erroneous hi peeps [20:21] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163962 [20:21] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:24] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163963 [20:24] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:24] schestowitz-TR hi, Erroneous [20:27] TR News Clownwashing and Linuxwashing or Googlebombing to push some proprietary snakeoil that likely makes systems LESS secure https://securitybrief.co.nz/story/sophos-unveils-cloud-protection-advancements-with-linux-and-offerings [20:27] TR Bot Sophos unveils cloud protection advancements with Linux and offerings [20:27] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/commodore-c64-the-most-popular-home-computer-ever-turns-40/ [20:27] TR Bot C64: The Most Popular Home Computer Ever Turns 40 | Hackaday [20:28] TR News Vivaldi 5.2 Web Browser Comes with Syncable Reading Lists https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/ Source: linuxiac [20:28] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxiac.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/ [20:28] TR Bot Vivaldi 5.2 Web Browser Comes with Syncable Reading Lists [20:29] TR News No, just quit social control media. Don't try to 'tame' it. You would be wasting time. https://puri.sm/posts/the-future-of-socialmedia/ [20:29] TR Bot The Future of Social Media Depends on You Purism [20:32] Erroneous The Most Popular Home Computer Ever ? [20:33] Erroneous define Ever==1984 [20:38] MinceR pretty sure i have several computers in my home that are far more powerful than any C64 [20:39] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yevedmyetc9v6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:40] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: [16:46] Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163949 http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/ [20:40] TR Bot Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw | Tux Machines [20:40] TR Bot Microsoft Secure Boot and Intel VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off | Techrights [20:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Backflushing and acid treatment worked. [20:44] DaemonFC A ton more "radiator diarrhea" came out. [20:45] DaemonFC Heater blowing at 147 degrees F. [20:46] MinceR diarrhea, cha-cha-cha [20:48] TR News A Pandemic of Webspam and Fake News About GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/ [20:48] TR Bot A Pandemic of Webspam and Fake News About GNU/Linux | Techrights [20:48] schestowitz-TR diarrhea, fart-fart-fart-fart [20:49] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:50] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:50] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-YUwNlb-tY [20:50] TR Bot https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=n-YUwNlb-tY [20:50] TR Bot vid.puffyan.us | diarrhea cha-cha-cha - Invidious [20:53] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:54] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@7k5ripnrny4z2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:55] schestowitz O I C [20:55] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-store-atlanta-union [20:55] TR Bot store employees in Atlanta are filing to unionize - Protocol [20:56] schestowitz-TR let's hope workers will do this in the millions [20:56] schestowitz-TR starbucks, sweatshopzone, rotten... [20:56] schestowitz-TR eventually the system can be changed by coordinated refusal to work [20:57] TR News Grab a big load of the X Universe space games from Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [20:57] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/ [20:57] TR Bot a big load of the X Universe space games from Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 350.36 [20:59] TR News WSL is Windows and an attack on GNU/Linux; the way it's spun for FUD against "Linux" is distasteful https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/QUALYS-INC-11612572/news/Qualys-Implications-of-Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-for-Adversaries-Defenders-Part-2-40102023/ [20:59] TR Bot : Implications of Windows Subsystem for Linux for Adversaries & Defenders (Part 2) | MarketScreener ● Apr 20 [21:00] TR News "Remember I left IBM (involuntarily)" https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/interested-in-a-job-in-the-us-at-asml/ the sociopaths and liars at ICBM call that "GREAT RESIGNATION" when they SACK loads of people [21:00] TR Bot Interested in a job in the US at ASML? | Alien Pastures [21:00] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163964 [21:00] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [21:01] Erroneous can WSL eun android? [21:01] TR News Combating disinformation or misinformation is very important; sadly, even in the GNU/Linux blogosphere theres no lack of false information, sometimes intentionally put there for SEO purposes http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/ [21:01] schestowitz-TR iirc, that exists already [21:01] schestowitz-TR and it sucks, too [21:01] schestowitz-TR and no reason to use that [21:03] psydruid what is the advantage? [21:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7adiimzyx9th6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:03] Erroneous LSW works better [21:04] psydruid there are already things like Waydroid and Anbox for running Android apps, but there isn't really a point [21:04] Erroneous why? [21:05] Erroneous i could run andoid apps on linux [21:05] psydruid the only reason why it's important to Microsoft is because they have lost developers writing native software for Windows [21:05] psydruid sure, you could [21:05] psydruid but what apps would you run? [21:06] DaemonFC Okay, I reset the modem. Comcast said if I upgraded to Internet Essentials Plus then it would still be within the price of the ACP subsidy. [21:06] Erroneous that birfd game [21:07] DaemonFC Flappy Bird? [21:07] Erroneous flapybird [21:08] DaemonFC can WSL eun android? [21:08] Erroneous have you played it? [21:08] DaemonFC It can, kind of. [21:08] DaemonFC It's not Google Play enabled, without an unofficial hack that violates the Play ToS. [21:08] DaemonFC Microsoft recommends the Amazon App Store. LOL [21:09] DaemonFC F-Droid probably works on the Android Runtime in WSL. [21:09] Erroneous Amazon App Store has floppy birds? [21:10] DaemonFC Dunno. [21:10] DaemonFC I don't have Amazon App Store. [21:10] psydruid floppy birds or flappybird? [21:10] bnchs lol [21:10] bnchs android subsystem for windows [21:10] Erroneous gnome already looks like android so why not [21:10] DaemonFC It's out there flopping around. [21:10] bnchs it reminds me of a GNU joke email [21:11] DaemonFC I think there's something wrong with that bird. [21:11] schestowitz-TR 1-0 Mahrez! [21:11] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:11] DaemonFC Maybe it drank some of my diarrhea coolant. [21:11] schestowitz-TR I opened the door, I can hear the announcer from here [21:11] DaemonFC That's what happens when a woman owns a car. [21:11] bnchs https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/microsoft-church.html [21:11] TR Bot Microsoft and the Church - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [21:11] bnchs this is still accurate [21:12] DaemonFC As soon as a woman owns a car you can expect things to fail as they age due to utter neglect. [21:12] *psydruid was finally going to watch the summary of yesterday's Liverpool-Man United to see how bad the latter really were [21:12] MinceR maybe they should also write about MICROS~1's bid to acquire the FSF [21:12] DaemonFC The woman will also argue that GM-specced oil meant to avoid engine sludging is a ripoff "because I am a woman". [21:13] bnchs Gates described MICROSOFT's long-term strategy to develop a scalable religious architecture that will support all religions through emulation. A single core religion will be offered with a choice of interfaces according to the religion desiredOne religion, a couple of different implementations, said Gates. [21:14] Erroneous Gates of hell [21:15] bnchs this is a email from 1994 [21:15] psydruid the thing he didn't know is that his failed scalable religious architecture would become a subsystem under other operating systems without having to resort to emulation [21:15] psydruid cf. Wine [21:16] TR News Proxies for Web Crawling https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/ [21:16] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: marketresearchtelecast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/ [21:16] TR Bot Proxies for Web Crawling - Market Research Telecast [21:17] TR News SEJ became pro-spam site https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/ [21:17] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: searchenginejournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/ [21:17] TR Bot Small Business Marketing 101: Getting Started [21:18] Erroneous " You would need to make a spread shit, structure it, and then proceed to hours upon hours of copy/pasting. By the end of it, the chances are that the prices have changed and your data is useless. " [21:18] Erroneous a spread shit LOL [21:20] schestowitz-TR shit engine optimisation [21:21] Erroneous i need to run my own spiderbot [21:21] Erroneous and become google like [21:21] schestowitz-TR spy-dug [21:21] schestowitz-TR spy-dug [21:21] schestowitz-TR >> spy-duh [21:22] schestowitz-TR gulag does not have great algos [21:22] schestowitz-TR it makes up for it with [21:22] schestowitz-TR 1) quantity [21:22] schestowitz-TR 2) spying [21:22] DaemonFC Car dealers have no interest in educating consumers in what is needed and what isn't. [21:22] schestowitz-TR good luck running 20,000 servers [21:22] schestowitz-TR for only a few people to actually use the results you pick [21:22] DaemonFC If you don't maintain your vehicle, you'll buy another one sooner when you figure yours is not working right anymore. [21:22] schestowitz-TR 2-0 Foden [21:23] schestowitz-TR very loud chanting [21:23] DaemonFC And if you do go get it serviced, some of them actually do try to push unnecessary procedures on you. [21:23] schestowitz-TR 2) they spy on clicks and stuff [21:23] schestowitz-TR so the results are based on observing people around the Web [21:23] DaemonFC Since some actually do this, some people think anything any dealer recommends is a scam. [21:23] Erroneous i remeber using somer webcrawler search engines [21:23] DaemonFC Your best bet with a car is to educate yourself a little about what actually needs done, why, and when. [21:23] Erroneous is that still a thing? [21:24] DaemonFC Because if you do what my mom does and "rely on others to tell me", either nobody will or they'll start trying to sell you expensive services that may not even be in the owner's manual or related to a repair. [21:25] Erroneous fuck your mom and your car [21:25] Erroneous go spam else were [21:25] DaemonFC Cars have turned into a tech product. [21:26] DaemonFC This is getting beyond ridiculous. [21:26] DaemonFC Now with COVID, they have to rip half those features out anyway. [21:26] DaemonFC It's really interesting when they give you the invoice sticker too. [21:26] Erroneous why can we quite spambot DaemonFC? [21:26] psydruid everything is turning into a malicious tech product [21:27] DaemonFC Because when a vehicle has "cold weather package" (heated seats and side mirrors), they list it as like $800. [21:27] psydruid even things that aren't supposed to be [21:27] DaemonFC But when they can't get chips and remove the computer that controls those systems, but not most of the hardware, leaving buttons that don't do anything, and heaters that nothing can operate.... [21:27] DaemonFC They give you a $50 credit. LOL [21:28] psydruid pity money [21:28] DaemonFC On less sophisticated cars like the Impala and the Lacrosse that I have, the seat heater is just a toggle switch. It has off, warm, and a second warm setting that's warmer than the first. [21:28] DaemonFC But these new cars hook it up to the computer and decide how warm the heater in the seat should get based on the outside temperature and how warm you like the heater to be. [21:29] DaemonFC So, they require their own connection to the BCM and a computer chip just for the stupid seat warmer. [21:29] DaemonFC Instead of off, I, and II. [21:29] DaemonFC Never breaks. Too easy! [21:30] DaemonFC I think now Toyota sells heated seats and then disables them if you don't subscribe to the seats for $10 a month. [21:30] Erroneous it would be a good idea to fit a transponder on every car [21:30] DaemonFC Don't pay? Your car gets an update that doesn't allow the seat warmer to be turned on. [21:30] Erroneous for traffic jam management and things [21:30] DaemonFC It would be interesting if someone created a bypass for the heated seats. [21:30] DaemonFC But that might violate the DMCA. [21:31] DaemonFC In yet another way Congress wasn't thinking about in the 90s. [21:31] Erroneous Congress wasn't thinking but the companies was [21:32] Erroneous american cars suck [21:33] Erroneous im geting a sonos and solar panales to juice my house and car for free [21:33] *psydruid wonders if there are any regulations against such consumer-hostile policies in the EU [21:35] Erroneous you mean getting a sonos and solar panels to juice my house and car for free? [21:35] Erroneous im sure they have some regulations hard to bypass [21:38] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [21:40] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Quit: A Book which I am writing, and would love to share: https://executingreality.com/pdfs/TheNOTES/NOTES.pdf) [21:43] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] Erroneous https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/ [21:45] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/ [21:45] TR Bot "Iron Beam" laser weapon counters multiple targets in live fire tests [21:46] Erroneous skynet is here to stay [21:46] Erroneous Iron Beam is an optical fiber laser that can lock onto targets at the speed of light and destroy them within five seconds at a range of up to 7 km (4.3 miles). [21:47] schestowitz-TR didn't the US test this ages ago? [21:47] schestowitz-TR they already did a lot of work on that [21:47] Erroneous this one actually works [21:48] schestowitz-TR so they claim [21:48] schestowitz-TR they also said drone strikes would work [21:48] schestowitz-TR but they're imprecise and messy [21:48] schestowitz-TR nukes also "work" [21:49] Erroneous you ill see [21:49] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:50] Erroneous each laser round costs about a dollar a shot [21:53] Erroneous https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/ [21:53] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/ [21:53] TR Bot Breakthrough TPV cell makes more power from heat than a steam turbine [21:54] DaemonFC they also said drone strikes would work [21:54] DaemonFC They are doing ICBMs with conventional explosives now. [21:54] DaemonFC "Prompt Global Strike" [21:54] schestowitz-TR "conventional" [21:54] DaemonFC The goal is to be able to quickly hit any target on the planet in less than an hour with a launch from the US mainland. [21:55] Erroneous shoulf work great in solar thermal plants [21:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: easier with submarine [21:55] schestowitz-TR if it's not far away from shore [21:55] schestowitz-TR US also has tons of bases everywhere [21:56] schestowitz-TR some of today's so-called drone strikes are not even drones [21:56] schestowitz-TR the drone just picks the target [21:57] schestowitz-TR and then a heavy missile or bomb is shot from KMs or tens of KMs away by a manned plane [21:57] DaemonFC Yeah, paints it with a laser. [21:57] schestowitz-TR the pilot is "safer" this way [21:57] DaemonFC Yeah, it renders surface to air missiles useless. [21:57] DaemonFC Because the plane that launched it is far away from the drone. [21:57] DaemonFC Which is cheap and unmanned. [21:58] DaemonFC Even if they can shoot the drone down. [21:58] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCNQ0xksZ4 [21:58] TR Bot https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=obCNQ0xksZ4 [21:58] Erroneous the pilot is already obsolete [21:58] TR Bot invidious.weblibre.org | Police Interrogations: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - Invidious [21:58] schestowitz-TR skynet stuff ● Apr 20 [22:01] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:02] TR News Fewer Nice Days gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220420-fewer-nice-days.gmi "This part of the world is subject to large swings in temperature throughout the year." [22:03] TR News "Today I tuned up my slrn config, and I was browsing the Usenet again. Slrn is great tool, but user must has knowledge of the key concepts. One of them is score file. I had been wondering why the default view isn't date ordered. After that I discovered, that you could change order by `ESC s`." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi [22:05] TR News "Sitting in the train. Im going to the office for the first time since the beginning of Corona. I dont like it." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-20%20Time%20management [22:06] TR News "I've been meaning to learn the language toki pona for more than a decade. It's about time." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-20-toki-pona-exercises-for-lesson-1.gmi [22:07] TR News "I do wish people would stop talking about the technical side of Gemini on Gemini; it's finished, there's no need to discuss it. But most of what I read is intensely personal." gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220420-not-giving-up.gmi [22:08] TR News "The horrible virus has done my tastebuds in. This is *deeply* annoying and frustrating for me. If I try and eat meat or some forms of citrus then it tastes of cigarettes." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420 [22:09] TR News "Honestly it is really getting me down. Given that my Partner and Kid aren't exactly fish fans its forced a bit of a vegetarian lifestyle (okay... pescetarian). I eat Mumble-2021-05-08-16-08-45-aquilegia.ddns.net-Mixdown_data lot* of cheese now. And beer. Beer is lovely. Most wine too. I'm not opposed to this particularly but it is annoying. I miss eating lasagna with the kiddo." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420 [22:11] TR News "Sf politics are absolutely awful. Completely bought and paid for by property developers and big tech. I have basically completely given up on politics." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [22:12] TR News "It is scary to comment anything on any place on the Big Bad Web. Lately, I hardly ever say anything, I am slowly deleting, forsaking or just forgetting my social media accounts." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/891 [22:13] schestowitz-TR [21:58] the pilot is already obsolete [22:13] schestowitz-TR they call operators "pilots" sometimes [22:13] schestowitz-TR some of them blow the whistleblowers [22:13] schestowitz-TR I had two online 'friends' who are drone whistleblowers [22:14] TR News 2013 classic Proteus gets an update for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [22:14] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ [22:14] TR Bot classic Proteus gets an update for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [22:18] TR News Gulag and clown computing = inferior experience, a step back http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1671 [22:18] TR Bot Running Anthos inside Google [22:18] TR News "Task manager is one of the few parts of Windows that I really like but on Linux you can get all the same sort of data it's just in seperate tools, System Monitoring Center though brings all of that data into one place." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLHeY36szU [22:18] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=gJLHeY36szU [22:18] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | This Is Windows Task Manager For Linux!! - Invidious [22:18] TR News Games: Skullgirls, Mighty Goose, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163965 [22:18] TR Bot Games: Skullgirls, Mighty Goose, and More | Tux Machines [22:24] TR News Just don't call them "pleasure cards" if you're RMS and there are corporate mobs looking for anything to 'cancel' you https://www.makeuseof.com/create-send-recognition-cards-to-team/ [22:24] TR Bot How to Create and Send Recognition Cards to Your Team [22:25] TR News Web: Social Control Media, Proprietary Web Browser (Vivaldi), and Crawlers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163966 [22:25] TR Bot Web: Social Control Media, Proprietary Web Browser (Vivaldi), and Crawlers | Tux Machines [22:25] TR News A look at American terrorism https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1259749.shtml [22:25] TR Bot Exclusive: How CIA uses cyber weapon Beehive to monitor, attack global key targets - Global Times [22:25] Erroneous I CONFESS [22:26] DaemonFC Yelp keeps removing my review of Batteries Plus in Gurnee, Illinois. [22:26] TR News Do you really need to count them? Are they merely inventories to us? https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html just stay the hell out of it and stop destroying the planet [22:26] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html [22:26] TR Bot British charity on hunt for team to help count penguins in Antarctica | The Independent [22:26] schestowitz-TR welcome to the clown [22:27] DaemonFC They say I offended the owner by calling him a nut for calling me at me house, cursing at me, and threatening to call the police over my credit card dispute with the bank. [22:27] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: maybe wordpress.com is next [22:27] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: maybe he wasn't John Smith [22:27] schestowitz-TR so calling him anything is not OK [22:27] schestowitz-TR it's "hate crime" [22:28] TR News False assumption: coding is high-paying https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ [22:28] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ ) [22:28] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: impactalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ [22:28] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/yelp-keeps-removing-my-review-of-batteries-plus-in-gurnee-illinois/ [22:28] TR Bot Yelp keeps removing my review of Batteries Plus in Gurnee, Illinois. BaronHK's Rants [22:29] TR News The highest-paying jobs are in theft. In crime. They do this in the private and public sector alike and formalise these with terms like "hedge funds". [22:29] *SkywaveC3 has quit (Quit) [22:30] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@yk58f7khufeyg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:32] TR News How To Be A GNU/Linux User - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [22:32] TR Bot How To Be A Linux User - Invidious [22:32] DaemonFC So much for Yelp saying they don't remove reviews to protect a business's reputation. [22:32] DaemonFC Obviously the guy is watching his page and reported me for calling him a nut. [22:32] TR News FLOSS Weekly became Linux Journal. See staff. https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/677 [22:32] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/677 ) [22:32] DaemonFC So I removed the parts that I feel might be construed as offensive and stuck to what happened and re-posted it. [22:33] DaemonFC The only thing I added was "Bonus points for not being able to figure out how a behind-the-wheel gear shifter works. [22:34] TR News "Code of Conduct!" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/yelp-keeps-removing-my-review-of-batteries-plus-in-gurnee-illinois/ 1 report of staff at a sponsor booth ignoring a woman attendee http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/ [22:34] TR Bot The Linux Foundation Does Not Want You to See How a Code of Conduct is Actually Enforced at Its Events | Techrights [22:35] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [22:37] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you should have given a "5 star minus 4" review [22:37] schestowitz-TR to make sure everyone is happy [22:38] schestowitz-TR and nobody's feelings are "hurt" [22:38] schestowitz-TR "my experience was not perfect" [22:38] schestowitz-TR wait, too much negation [22:38] schestowitz-TR Let me find a way to rephrase it [22:39] schestowitz-TR "I hope my next experience will be even better!" [22:39] schestowitz-TR Linus Torvalds: your code smells lovely [22:39] Erroneous less then 4 stars is just like a dislike button on you tube [22:40] TR News Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview, Observable, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163967 [22:40] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview, Observable, and More | Tux Machines [22:40] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you're Irish now? [22:41] schestowitz-TR "calling me at me house"? [22:41] schestowitz-TR "me likes me beer, matey" [22:41] Erroneous "calling me at mi house"? [22:41] schestowitz "They say I offended the owner, Bhushan Chouhan, by calling him a nut for calling me at me house, cursing at me, and threatening to call the police over my credit card dispute with the bank." [22:41] Erroneous "me likes mi beer, matey" [22:43] Erroneous matey isnt here today [22:43] TR News It's all in India... https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-best-python-engineer-jobs-to-apply-for-in-april-2022/ notice how much outsourcing is going on, not due to lack of skills but salaries (corporate greed) [22:43] TR Bot Top 10 Best Python Engineer Jobs to Apply for in April 2022 [22:44] Erroneous are you calling DaemonFC a catholic ~schestowitz [22:44] TR News "Python Software Foundation: The Python Software Foundation (PSF) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation that holds the intellectual property rights behind the Python programming language." https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-programming-languages-and-their-funding-genies/ and already hijacked by Pentagon giants [22:44] TR Bot Top 10 Programming Languages and Their Funding Genies [22:45] schestowitz-TR non of me bizniz [22:46] TR News No, their real, natural habitat is the oasis to them. Stop turning them into props and exhibitions https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/ [22:46] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: curiocity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/ [22:46] TR Bot The incredible Polk Penguin Conservation Center is a day trip from Toronto [22:47] TR News Wayne Rooney is a very talented footballer but a terrible coach https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football [22:47] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football [22:47] TR Bot Wayne Rooney's Derby County relegated to 3rd tier of English football [22:48] TR News Facebook spam! Webspam. META METASOMETHING META META... help us rebrand by spamming, please! https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/horizon-worlds-identity-crisis-meta [22:48] TR Bot Meta is looking to the video game industry for metaverse inspiration - Protocol [22:49] DaemonFC at my house [22:49] DaemonFC typo [22:50] DaemonFC fixed [22:50] schestowitz https://lwn.net/Articles/891273/ [22:50] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/891273/ ) [22:50] schestowitz "[$] Fedora considers deprecating legacy BIOS" [22:51] DaemonFC What is the politically correct term for asking if one is due back at the lab to have their bolts tightened? [22:52] TR News Way to choose a bad venue https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/ [22:52] -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/ [22:52] TR Bot up 2022 San Francisco | daniel.haxx.se [22:57] MinceR https://thecodinglove.com/when-they-ask-for-my-estimate [22:57] TR Bot When they ask for my estimate | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes [22:59] *alextee (~alextee@37nedm8cyafpe.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/radiator-flush-success-a-second-flush-with-blue-devil-at-the-chevy-dealer-restored-my-heat/ [22:59] TR Bot Radiator Flush SUCCESS. A second flush with Blue Devil at the Chevy dealer restored my heat. BaronHK's Rants ● Apr 20 [23:00] DaemonFC Mandy doesn't understand things when I explain them to him. [23:00] DaemonFC He says "Turn the heat on." when the car is off. [23:01] DaemonFC I explain, "The engine produces heat when it is running, which heats up the coolant, which flows through the heater core, which is transferred into the cabin by the blower. Without the car running, you cannot run the heater.". [23:02] DaemonFC Then he wonders why it's cold with the car on for a while. I have to explain, "Because the engine has to run long enough to reach operating temperature before the heater fully works. Which is why there is a remote starter on this car that is programmed to run the heater when you use it.". [23:02] DaemonFC Then he asks the same questions next week when it's cold and the car is either off or not warmed up. [23:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I probably will turn in my license before electric cars become mainstream. [23:05] DaemonFC You think a 14 year old Buick is a money pit because it needs some coolant and a transmission service, wait until you get a load of what a used battery car costs the second owner! [23:07] DaemonFC Or a used BMW, for that matter. [23:07] Erroneous deam [23:07] DaemonFC People buy old BMWs and Mercedes cars because they only cost a couple thousand dollars and they either do one of two things. [23:07] DaemonFC Try to fix them until they've spent $10,000 fixing it and it's still not working well, or just drive the car while it falls apart around them and not even the windows work anymore. [23:08] Erroneous windows never worked [23:09] TR News Did Mozilla pay a PR agency (PKPR) to spam me and others? While sacking engineers they toss money on totally BS lobbying and lies (and email spam)? Irene Dominque, irene@pkpr.com = SPAMMER. [23:10] TR News Mozilla's CEO Miss Banker [sic] is ruining the company and destroying Firefox so fast that you wonder if Banker is to Gulag what Elop was to Microsoft (inside Nokia) [23:12] *matey (~matey@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [23:12] schestowitz-TR mi matey came after all [23:12] matey eh? [23:12] schestowitz-TR [22:43] matey isnt here today [23:12] Erroneous speak of the devil [23:12] matey >:) [23:13] SomeH4x0r hi [23:13] matey hi [23:13] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soz1R9UqHAI [23:13] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=Soz1R9UqHAI [23:13] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Dexcool is a horrible coolant - Invidious [23:13] SomeH4x0r barto was today on TWISTED [23:13] matey /me nods [23:14] matey it seems like hes not online when i am [23:14] SomeH4x0r they were online like two hours ago before you, and left one hour ago [23:14] SomeH4x0r *came online [23:15] SomeH4x0r 00:35 <+barto> i'll probably be back in 20 hours [23:15] SomeH4x0r 00:35 <+barto> or 21 [23:15] SomeH4x0r the time is in UTC+3, so it would be 21:35 [23:15] SomeH4x0r in UTC [23:15] matey schestowitz-TR "me likes me beer, matey" <- ????? [23:16] matey MinceR maybe they should also write about MICROS~1's bid to acquire the FSF <- if it wasnt for mincer i would feel really bad for this channel [23:16] matey /me isnt kidding [23:17] SomeH4x0r did it happen? [23:17] matey did what happen [23:17] SomeH4x0r maybe I have some misunderstanding about the roots of the issue, but I'm still suspicious about FSF due to it being a big organization [23:18] SomeH4x0r the Microsoft bid [23:18] matey MinceR diarrhea, cha-cha-cha <- beavis and butthead terrorising poor hipster girl [23:18] matey the Microsoft bid <- i think he was being cynical. youre not literally allowed to bid on 501(c)3 orgs. you can only infiltrate the board and bribe them. [23:18] matey which is SORT OF like owning them [23:18] matey metaphorically [23:18] Erroneous fucking hipsters [23:18] SomeH4x0r maybe I have some misunderstanding about the roots of the issue, but I'm still suspicious about FSF due to it being a big organization [23:19] matey usually i dislike hipsters [23:19] MinceR so do i [23:19] Erroneous thats what DaemonFC is [23:19] matey I'm still suspicious about FSF <- no reason not to be, theyve abandoned their mission [23:19] matey thats what DaemonFC is <- *pictures dfc as a hipster* [23:20] matey that would be fucking priceless [23:20] Erroneous i bet DaemonFC sports a beard [23:20] matey i imagine any situation involving a hipster and dfc would lead to the hipster crying and/or trying to file a lawsuit against him [23:21] matey and god help him [23:21] matey the hipster i mean [23:21] Erroneous why hipsters love old muscle cars too [23:21] matey MinceR pretty sure i have several computers in my home that are far more powerful than any C64 <- none as COOL though [23:22] MinceR they could be as cool, if i put them in the fridge [23:22] matey /me hacks into the m41nfr4me using c64 and unix manuals [23:23] matey password: GOD [23:23] matey im in! [23:23] Erroneous c64 was used for war games [23:23] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [23:23] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:24] schestowitz-TR you cannot use that password [23:24] schestowitz-TR G** [23:24] schestowitz-TR yehovah [23:24] schestowitz-TR you cannot just type "god" [23:24] matey password: ALLOW [23:24] schestowitz-TR it's against the CoC [23:24] AdmFubar how about heysuse? [23:24] schestowitz-TR you might give some unorthodox man a seizure [23:25] bnchs schestowitz-TR, they check passwords? [23:25] AdmFubar has one of the coolest c64's.. a sx-64 [23:25] bnchs for words? [23:25] matey /me didnt know the coc had gone haredi [23:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/ [23:25] TR Bot The Linux Foundation Does Not Want You to See How a Code of Conduct is Actually Enforced at Its Events | Techrights [23:26] matey password: OYGEVALT [23:26] matey oy very, maria [23:27] matey /me trashes keyboard and gets another [23:27] matey thats the last punchline you fuck up [23:27] schestowitz-TR you cannot hand out 'offensive' leaflets [23:27] matey /me shows old keyboard to new keyboard, so it understands [23:27] schestowitz-TR like pictures of Prophet Mohammad licking a CoC [23:27] matey wow [23:27] schestowitz-TR that would get the booth set ablaze [23:27] schestowitz-TR then the same in the parking lot [23:28] matey atheists be like: "i made a painting of jesus. it has some poo on it" [23:28] matey "i hope people appreciate the artistic message here" [23:28] matey we all do it of course, it has to be done [23:28] Erroneous Im atheist so i joined the satanic league [23:29] matey though im generally nice to (ahem, most) religious people, since i dont actually like pissing them off all the time [23:29] matey if theyre dicks though, its open season [23:30] matey "ill get you, and your little god too" [23:32] matey The Netflix limited series "Unorthodox" follows Esty, a young Hasidic woman desperate to flee the only world she has ever known for an uncertain future halfway around the world. [23:33] matey For Members of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Gur Sect, Sex Is a Sin. [23:33] Erroneous you will get a fatwa put out on you [23:34] matey note that in judaism, you have to be ULTRA ORTHODOX (more than just plain old orthodox) for that to be a thing [23:34] Erroneous only for them? [23:34] matey for catholicism, you just have to be catholic [23:34] matey then EVERYTHING is a sin [23:34] matey even not sinning (because its immodest and proud) [23:35] Erroneous if EVERYTHING is a sin you would have to be god not to sin [23:36] matey im just a gur, id rather not be, cause they wont let me go out at night [23:36] DaemonFC i bet DaemonFC sports a beard [23:36] matey if EVERYTHING is a sin you would have to be god not to sin <- that of course would be blaspheme [23:36] matey of course you dont have to be religious to be ultra-orthodox anymore. you just have to agree to the coc oath [23:36] matey i bet DaemonFC sports a beard <- no he has a husband [23:36] DaemonFC No, I shave in the shower every day. I bath in hand soap because body wash is hand soap for idiots who want to pay $15 for $4 worth of hand soap. [23:37] DaemonFC And I shave with shampoo that's leftover from my hair to avoid having to buy shaving cream. [23:37] matey (cause if he had a beard she would just be for show) [23:38] DaemonFC I was going through about a can every 5-6 weeks and I figured that if it costs $2 a can and there's 52 weeks in a year, then that's a $17.33 a year product I can ditch. [23:38] Erroneous i bet you are jealous of people with beards [23:38] DaemonFC Why would you work for an hour to have shave cream when you already have other products for that? [23:38] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg [23:39] TR Bot No Doubt - Just A Girl - Invidious [23:39] Erroneous you could use a shavinbg machine [23:39] matey a smart shaver, with bluetooth [23:39] matey has a wireless charging platform [23:40] Erroneous why would you want bluetoth [23:40] matey if you hold it away from your face it takes a selfie and puts it on social media to show how close your shave is [23:40] MinceR lol [23:40] matey why WOULDNT you want bluetooth [23:40] MinceR why not do that over wifi or cellular though? [23:40] matey ok boomer [23:40] MinceR what if your phone isn't near when you're shaving? [23:41] matey /me has bluetooth in his bluetooth so it can connect to itself [23:41] matey its always paired [23:41] MinceR lol [23:41] Erroneous ima gona make me a hardware mod for smartphone with a shaver ond post it on yakaday [23:42] Erroneous paired to the smart toothbrush [23:42] matey a yak is an open source version of a gnu [23:43] *matey has quit (connection closed) [23:43] Erroneous imagine if you could have your nasdac delivered strait to your toothbrush [23:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was joking about Carvana with the guy at the service department at Chevy this morning. [23:44] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [23:44] DaemonFC I said, "Well, I could have done a lot worse. Like buying the same car on Carvana for $14,000, running into all these problems, and having no money to fix it.". [23:44] Erroneous WE HAVE A CONFESSION! [23:46] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] Erroneous i bet most of the police inquisitors draw their methods from the Sunday evangelical church preacher [23:48] Erroneous or something like taht [23:48] Erroneous and some of them confessions are reall life miricals [23:49] Erroneous miracles [23:50] DaemonFC I don't confess to anyone. [23:50] DaemonFC Not the police. Not the child molester with the funny hat (priest). [23:50] DaemonFC I admit nothing. [23:51] Erroneous https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-20/amazon-europe-unit-paid-no-taxes-on-55-billion-sales-in-2021 [23:51] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [23:51] DaemonFC My toothbrush has bluetooth and an app. [23:51] DaemonFC I never use it. [23:51] Erroneous why to go besos [23:52] Erroneous DaemonFC i bet you shave like besos [23:54] *matey (~matey@fwvi8i66ywy5a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:54] matey that was fun [23:55] DaemonFC I cut my hair. [23:55] DaemonFC $20 and a tip to Great Clips. I can fuck up my own hair for free. [23:56] Erroneous i know DaemonFC it sucks to be you [23:57] Erroneous what was matey? [23:57] matey /me lets Erroneous learn the hard way [23:57] matey you have some issue with DFC i guess [23:58] Erroneous nothing much [23:58] matey it isnt worth it [23:58] Erroneous what isnt? [23:58] matey youll see [23:59] Erroneous is that a threat? [23:59] matey not at all [23:59] matey im not looking out for anyone [23:59] Erroneous ofcourse not