●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 20, 2022 ●● ● May 20 [00:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:00] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:00] DaemonFC https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/17/apple-airpods-pro-amber-alert-lawsuit/ [00:00] TR Bot Facing Lawsuit After AirPods Allegedly Ruptured Child's Eardrums With Amber Alert - MacRumors [00:01] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Kremlin's prankers made a fool out of him recently. [00:02] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:02] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@7au7cchx5x986.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] TR News EPO Eating Its Own (and Robbing Its Own) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/csc-on-epo-heist/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/19/csc-on-epo-heist/ [00:02] TR Bot EPO Eating Its Own (and Robbing Its Own) | Techrights [00:03] XRevan86 and then it was presented on an "Educational Marathon "New Horizons"" [00:04] XRevan86 (Kremlin's obviously) [00:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [00:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:05] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:05] XRevan86 It became very clear what Kremlin's considering educational. 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[00:15] TR News GNU program, not Linux command https://bytexd.com/linux-tail-command-with-examples/ [00:15] TR Bot Tail Command (With Examples) - ByteXD [00:17] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:17] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165040 [00:17] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:18] TR News case insensitive string comparisons in C https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/19/case-insensitive-string-comparisons-in-c/ [00:18] TR Bot insensitive string comparisons in C | daniel.haxx.se [00:19] TR News They release it in a Microsoft/NSA proprietary software site. No, it is not trustworthy. https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/05/19/Rust-1.61.0.html [00:19] TR Bot Announcing Rust 1.61.0 | Rust Blog [00:19] activelow anyway, with yaft+dvtm i can fully wipe X11 soon; i still got multimedia support including w3m with images (sixels or fbcon or both), mplayer (sixels or fbcon or both), window management, session management, full support for remote shell of this with ssh and no other dependency required for this [00:20] TR News Is Framework Laptop bribing bloggers again? [00:20] *eric23 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:22] TR News Microsofters selling proprietary snake-oil for "Linux" https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/crowdstrike-cloud-security-extends-to-red-hat-enterprise-linux-versions/ [00:22] TR Bot Cloud Security Extends to Red Hat Enterprise Linux Versions [00:22] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@fkwpyd59ikads.irc) has joined #techrights [00:23] TR News Promotional VPN webspam disguised as 'article' https://www.techradar.com/news/surfshark-vpn-for-linux-gets-a-breakthrough-new-feature [00:23] TR Bot VPN for Linux gets a breakthrough new feature | TechRadar [00:24] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:27] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [00:27] TR News Budgie on Fedora, Rocky Linux funding - Linux and open source news - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZQrvnQLcku8 [00:27] TR Bot Microsoft's distros, Budgie on Fedora, Rocky Linux funding - Linux and open source news - Invidious [00:27] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:27] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@fkwpyd59ikads.irc) has joined #techrights [00:27] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [00:27] TR News "Why Google's new open-source security effort might fall a bit short, the Arch snag this week, a big win for Right to Repair, and why you might soon have a new favorite filesystem." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148637/linux-action-news-241/ [00:28] TR Bot Linux Action News 241 | Jupiter Broadcasting [00:28] TR News Meander Coil++ enables safe, wireless power transmission | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/19/meander-coil-enables-safe-wireless-power-transmission/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [00:28] TR Bot Meander Coil++ enables safe, wireless power transmission | Arduino Blog [00:30] TR News The 'Linux' Foundation lets proprietary software companies which attack security and sometimes attack Linux... speak 'for' it https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/open-source-software-security-turning-sand-into-concrete/ [00:30] TR Bot Open Source Software Security: Turning Sand into Concrete - Linux Foundation [00:30] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [00:32] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:32] TR News Some people speak negatively about me just because I criticise companies that pay them. [00:33] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@dzvphcarnngd6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:33] TR News "Trust, however, will not just appear out of the blue. Trust needs to be achieved somehow. Can algorithm suggested "friends" a la Linkedin, Xing, facebook etc. be trusted? Nope. Can members of smaller groups like the mailing list of a project be trusted? Maybe." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220519-re-sincere-conversation.gmi [00:34] TR News "Occasionally there have been arguments along the lines that tranport layer security (TLS) is too complicated and should be removed from gemini (and other sites, too). I disagree." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220519-re-tls-or-not.gmi [00:34] *Doxill has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:35] TR News epo.org has been turned into a non-stop propaganda machine of Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos because the EPO routinely breaks the law; its rather tasteless that while Ukrainians are dying the EPOs mob exploits Ukraine for PR purposes http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/pr-of-epo-kicks-in/ [00:35] TR Bot EPO.org (Official EPO Site) Continues to Promote Illegal Agenda and Exploit Ukraine for PR Stunts That Help Unaccountable Crooks | Techrights [00:36] TR News While the EPOs Antnio Campinos incites people (and politicians) to break the law hes also attacking, robbing, and lying to his own staff; thankfully, his staff isnt gullible enough and some MEPs are sympathetic http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/meme-epo-budget-tanking/ [00:36] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Budget Tanking? | Techrights [00:36] *Snuupy has quit (Quit: leaving) [00:36] TR News Antnio Campinos is lying to his staff and losing his temper when challenged about it; Like Benot Battistelli, who fixed this job for his banker buddy (despite a clear lack of qualifications and relevant experience), hes just robbing the EPOs staff http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/csc-on-epo-heist/ [00:36] TR Bot EPO Eating Its Own (and Robbing Its Own) | Techrights [00:36] TR News Security, Fear-mongering, and Openwashing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165041 [00:36] TR Bot Security, Fear-mongering, and Openwashing | Tux Machines [00:37] TR News CNN stops bothering to hide that the economy has turned sour. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/19/cnn-stops-bothering-to-hide-that-the-economy-has-turned-sour/ Source: baronhk [00:37] TR Bot CNN stops bothering to hide that the economy has turned sour. 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The alpha version (still in French) was posted to proofreaders." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article908/ep37-production-report-desk-setup [00:40] TR Bot Ep37 production report: desk setup - David Revoy [00:42] *eric23` (~user@9caqrdndkh5we.irc) has joined #techrights [00:42] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:43] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@dzvphcarnngd6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:45] TR News Videos: GTK, Nvidia, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165042 [00:45] TR Bot Videos: GTK, Nvidia, and More | Tux Machines [00:45] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165043 [00:45] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:45] TR News Software: Inkscape, Docspell, and Organize Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165044 [00:45] TR Bot Software: Inkscape, Docspell, and Organize | Tux Machines [00:46] TR News "I recently read about a study whose findings were that people tend to swear more easily if it wasnt in their mothers tongue. Their rationale was that people associate less emotions with the translations of swear words as they would do with those in their native language" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/19/europe-trip-journal-entry-17-separation-of-concerns/ [00:46] TR Bot Europe Trip Journal Entry 17: Separation of Concerns vanitasvitae's blog [00:47] TR News "Im just so sick and tired and goddamned disgusted by it all. Ive tuned out advertising completely. I dont have any streaming disservices in my house. I watch movies and stuff on discs. Usually ones I borrowed at the library, which I have to pay taxes for whether I use it or not." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/19/cnn-stops-bothering-to-hide-that-the-economy-has-turned-sour/ [00:47] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:48] TR News "The Democrat Party and the Republican Party that let laissez-faire Crapitalism dictate trade policy, who bankrupted us as a nation, who convinced us all we could just go shopping to cure what ails you, have no answers for how to fix anything, because theyre the ones who dont really want to fix it." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/19/cnn-stops-bothering-to-hide-that-the-economy-has-turned-sour/ [00:48] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@kxs4izj2yaf86.irc) has joined #techrights [00:48] TR News "I believe that economists will eventually call this the app or smartphone bubble, because it seems like everything involving those is shit hitting the fan, but there are lots of other bubbles too, like cryptocurrencies." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/19/cnn-stops-bothering-to-hide-that-the-economy-has-turned-sour/ [00:49] TR News My Favorite Modules: Time::Piece | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-timepiece.html Source: perl [00:49] TR Bot Favorite Modules: Time::Piece | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [00:51] TR News Replacing proper languages with something controlled by Microsoft and the NSA... https://blog.ganneff.de/2022/05/rust-munin-munin-plugin.html [00:51] TR Bot Rust? Munin? munin-plugin | Ganneffs Little Blog [00:52] DaemonFC https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/18/why-tesla-was-kicked-out-of-the-sp-500s-esg-index.html [00:52] TR Bot Why Tesla was kicked out of the S&P 500's ESG index [00:52] DaemonFC It said that Teslas lack of a low-carbon strategy and codes of business conduct, along with racism and poor working conditions reported at Teslas factory in Fremont, California, affected the score. [00:52] DaemonFC ^ LOL [00:52] TR News Larabel today: yes, I keep the 'gifts' https://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=system76-thelio-major&image=thelio_major_2_med [00:52] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:53] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@kxs4izj2yaf86.irc) has joined #techrights [00:54] TR News Is this journalism or a commercial? https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/red-hat-ceo-open-hybrid-cloud-will-be-defined-by-hardware-innovation-at-the-edge- [00:54] TR Bot Red Hat CEO: Open Hybrid Cloud Will Be Defined By Hardware Innovation At The Edge [00:57] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/19/tesla-thrown-out-of-sp-500-esg-index-for-racism-and-lack-of-a-low-carbon-business-plan/ [00:57] TR Bot Tesla thrown out of S&P 500 ESG index for racism and lack of a low-carbon business plan. BaronHK's Rants [00:57] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, ^ [00:58] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [00:58] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tuzytkrdqu5wy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:59] TR News Red Hat Leftovers/Puff Pieces Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165045 [00:59] TR Bot Red Hat Leftovers/Puff Pieces | Tux Machines ● May 20 [01:02] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165046 [01:02] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:03] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [01:03] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tuzytkrdqu5wy.irc) has joined #techrights [01:03] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Disappearing) [01:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:05] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:06] TR News Links 19/05/2022: Rust 1.61.0 and Lots of Security FUD | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/rust-1-61-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/19/rust-1-61-0/ [01:06] TR Bot Links 19/05/2022: Rust 1.61.0 and Lots of Security FUD | Techrights [01:08] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [01:08] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@2qgtgt44enunu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:10] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [01:12] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/19/7347202/ [01:12] TR Bot Tank cemetery: aftermath of failed Russian crossing of the Siverskyi Donets shown on internet | Ukrayinska Pravda [01:13] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [01:13] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@2qgtgt44enunu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:18] TR News Makes the assumption you have systemd gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-05-18.gmi [01:18] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [01:19] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/20/batteries-plus-bulbs-franchisee-bhushan-chouhan-claims-i-said-i-was-in-need-of-money-when-i-never-said-that-but-it-gets-better/ [01:19] TR Bot Batteries Plus Bulbs franchisee Bhushan Chouhan claims I said I was in need of money when I never said that. But it gets better! BaronHK's Rants [01:19] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, ^ [01:22] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I made it funnier. [01:22] DaemonFC I posted a picture of the POC for the PPP loan showing it to be Chouhan. [01:22] DaemonFC And I captioned it "Gee, "Chouhan" that.". [01:23] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:23] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@ewst3uyndmu3k.irc) has joined #techrights [01:25] DaemonFC "The point of the PPP, or as I call it, the CCCP, was to save jobs. [01:25] DaemonFC Essentially, the idea is that businesses that are on the verge of collapse or having to lay people off can go plead poverty (inability to make payroll or other expenses) to the SBA and get such a loan. [01:25] DaemonFC Which is ironic, when you think about it. [01:25] DaemonFC A battery store telling the government it needs money to keep the lights on." [01:25] DaemonFC -Me [01:25] DaemonFC "A battery and light bulb store telling the government it needs money to keep the lights on." [01:25] DaemonFC Edited. [01:27] DaemonFC "That's how you know this is a government operation folks. Nobody can go buy car batteries, AAs, light bulbs, and CR2032s at Walmart. Oh wait, they sell all of that at discount prices, and take it back if it doesn't work. Silly me. The government has to rescue a store that sells them at a higher price with sneaky fees that they ambush you with, and is having troubles for various reasons. I'd say in my opinion, the demeanor of the owner being [01:27] DaemonFC their bigger liability." 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BaronHK's Rants [01:54] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [01:55] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@623wmpwzxzsnq.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 370.90 ● May 20 [02:00] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [02:00] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@623wmpwzxzsnq.irc) has joined #techrights [02:03] DaemonFC Well, I see my ex is doing well. Over $100,000 in student loan debt and on year 12 of pursuing a bachelors degree. [02:05] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [02:09] XRevan86 https://nytimes.com/2022/05/19/world/europe/russia-bucha-ukraine-executions.html [02:09] TR Bot New Evidence Shows How Russian Soldiers Executed Men in Bucha - The New York Times [02:10] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@9usr6fbbjhvag.irc) has joined #techrights [02:14] XRevan86 I keep thinking about with what conviction Putin said that he has proof that the massacre in Bucha was staged. [02:15] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [02:15] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [02:17] XRevan86 Of course he never presented any. [02:18] XRevan86 I didn't really expect him to. Because the moment he does, it's sealed, it's done, he's committed to one story. [02:20] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [02:20] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [02:24] XRevan86 Also I wish CNN and NYT had the discipline Meduza has and published the unedited video footage. 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YOU FUCK IT, IT ONLY GET BLOATED AND STILL ANNOYING TO USE. GO TO VIMTUTOR, PRACTICE WITH "LEARN VIMSCRIPT THE HARD WAY." THEN YOU NOT NEED DUMB SHIT PUT INTO EDITOR." gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/dumb-meme.gmi [06:41] TR News "Not everyone is working on the shell all day long. This is a choice everyone can make, but it is by no means compelling. I do use the i3/sway window managers, so I'm clearly working in a GUI envionment. 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[06:48] schestowitz-TR ok [06:48] DaemonFC The guy works at the store during all of their business hours, and that's the only time the court is open,. [06:48] DaemonFC If you sue someone and they don't respond to it, you win by default. [06:48] DaemonFC He would have to close his store and show up at court over $83. [06:49] DaemonFC I don't think he'd do it. 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Copying data to AWS is a SECURITY BREACH! https://www.lisenet.com/2022/backup-kubernetes-cluster-resources-to-aws-s3-with-velero/ [06:56] TR Bot Kubernetes Cluster Resources to AWS S3 with Velero | Lisenet.com :: Linux | Security | Networking [06:56] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:56] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [06:57] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [06:57] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #techrights [06:57] TR News Speaking of security breach, do not use proprietary software https://itwire.com/security/experts-urge-vmware-users-to-patch-critical-flaws-right-away.html VMware used projection tactics http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022 [06:57] TR Bot - Experts urge VMware users to patch critical flaws right away [06:57] TR Bot VMware - Techrights [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.03 [06:59] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [06:59] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [06:59] TR News "EasyOS is an experimental distribution, subject to change as I explore new ideas. 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They call it creating stickiness in this now deleted article outlining this practice: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Create-stickiness-with-IP-Microsoft-Partner-Network.pdf" | nitter.it https://nitter.eu/stautistic/ [07:25] schestowitz status/1525984776393396224 Source: nitter [07:25] TR Bot lewis (@stautistic) | nitter.it [07:27] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:27] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [07:27] TR News Firefox for Android no longer gives the user control over the browsing experience. Privacy Browser turns off JavaScript by default. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165050 [07:27] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@xhe89khtfanwe.irc) has joined #techrights [07:27] TR Bot Firefox for Android no longer gives the user control over the browsing experience. 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[08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 344.60 ● May 20 [09:00] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:00] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@b8wrge84uv522.irc) has joined #techrights [09:05] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:05] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@b8wrge84uv522.irc) has joined #techrights [09:08] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:08] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [09:08] *matey (~matey@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights [09:09] matey congrats to the dickument foundation [09:09] matey who not only are arseholes [09:09] matey it doesnt stop with cancelling stallman-- no, it never does-- they had to cancel SCROLLBARS too [09:09] matey wtf [09:09] matey i know its not intentional [09:09] matey but i mean, windows 2.0 had scrollbars [09:09] matey i think even 1.0 had scrollbars [09:10] matey i think GEMDESK had scrollbars [09:10] matey and the dickument people cant get this right? [09:10] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:10] matey (i checked, scrollbars are enabled) [09:10] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@b8wrge84uv522.irc) has joined #techrights [09:10] matey its cute that you can turn them off-- individually. [09:10] matey its cuter that they dont work anyway [09:11] matey so id given up on libreoffice (i know im not the first person to complain about missing scrollbars in nonlibreoffice) [09:11] matey i mean i migrated to a new os like a year and a half ago and i havent installed it since [09:12] matey if i get an odt i just unzip it and muddle through the xml [09:12] matey people can use that shit if they want [09:12] matey ill just get the text-- images are kept in a folder, you can open those without libreoffice too [09:13] matey but at this point i was trying to look at about 100 odt files, so i was like-- wth, ill see if it installs [09:13] matey how do you fuck up scrollbars? i mean, this is like pissaudio comes to word processing. [09:14] matey they might as well move to a browser based application. thats the kind of shit that results in shit like this. [09:14] matey but then with collabora, thats probably what their future looks like anyway [09:14] matey COLIN WATSON signed the anti-rms letter, why is this funny? [09:15] matey its funny because he worked on vrms 20 years ago [09:15] matey i guess he prefers the script version. [09:15] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:15] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:15] matey or maybe he will cancel that too [09:16] matey uninstall vrms! [09:16] matey rms never liked it, because it tried to do something he thinks a script cant do (or doesnt do well) [09:17] matey these days its easier to write vrms but you need the right permissions [09:17] matey sell out and make lieplanet a sandwich [09:17] matey no [09:17] matey sudo sell out and make lieplanet a sandwich [09:17] matey okay [09:18] matey (i dont think hes actually sold out os much as been forced to play along-- its not the same as selling out, usually silence isnt considered shilling) [09:18] matey its not really shilling if you dont say anything bad about microsoft [09:19] matey but you should anyway [09:20] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:20] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [09:21] psydruid Dead Rat is an OSPS company [09:22] matey openly sleazy product-centric software [09:23] matey please stand by while we remove your scrollbars [09:23] matey this wont hurt a bit [09:23] matey pgdn still works-- in fact everything does, even better than the previous version [09:23] matey but its impossible to turn scrollbars on. [09:23] matey /me claps [09:24] matey maybe someone was hanging around apple and thought "hey! we need a missing 'headphone jack' in libreoffice too!" [09:24] matey "that will be so cool-- and in its place, we will put..." [09:24] matey /me checks online for a bluetooth based scrollbar, but cant find one [09:25] matey i mean the scrollwheel on the mouse works, but pgdn is faster [09:25] matey this is really stupid [09:25] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:25] matey this is what happens when bloat becomes an objective-- you pay so little attention to what matters that you break fucking features that people have relied on SINCE THE FUCKING 1980s [09:25] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@472igxb9hwwik.irc) has joined #techrights [09:26] matey its garbageoffice now [09:26] matey this is what open source does to software [09:27] matey it collabora- tes with microsoft and breaks the simplest most important shit [09:27] psydruid Dead rat must be buried or cremated [09:27] matey all for bloat, hail bloat, heil bloat [09:27] psydruid Their reason to exist is the same as Microsoft's [09:28] matey how about we throw it in a fucking volcano [09:28] matey i dont know, does microsoft try to kill jewish people? [09:28] psydruid Software can't just be good because that doesn't bring in enough money [09:28] psydruid I have no idea, I don't really follow Microsoft [09:28] matey money cant just be good because it breaks software and computing in general [09:29] psydruid Nor Dead Rat for that matter [09:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-20.gmi [09:30] psydruid They played it well, though [09:30] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:30] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@472igxb9hwwik.irc) has joined #techrights [09:31] psydruid Made a big stink out of Solaris and other Unices and when those were replaced they started turning GNU/Linux into crap [09:32] psydruid And people who were locked in didn't really have anywhere to go, because Dead Rat is professional and cunning rat [09:32] psydruid a* [09:35] matey Dead Rat is professional [09:35] matey yeah, a professional killer [09:35] matey libreoffice has gotten so professional they killed scrollbars [09:35] matey what are you going to do about it? fork it? [09:35] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:35] matey of course not, people will either suffer or use something else [09:36] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tb3bujhpbsxqn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:36] matey the dickument foundation will blame the user while corralling people into systemd and whatever else [09:36] psydruid All of this software is unforkable [09:36] matey does libreoffice need pulseaudio too in gnu/linux? i dont know [09:36] matey All of this software is unforkable <- thats the idea [09:36] matey pretend freedom 3 [09:37] matey the dickument foundation gives you all 3 freedoms. [09:37] psydruid The only thing you can do is to write a replacement from scratch [09:37] matey and hope the people working on it are sane enough to not do things the dickument foundation way [09:37] psydruid The freedom to fuck yourself over in different ways? [09:37] psydruid I want to taste some of that freedom [09:38] matey the freedom to fuck yourself over, the freedom to be fucked over, the freedom to be fucked over repeatedly [09:38] matey theres no freedom to fuck over corporations [09:38] matey corporations are fucking sacred [09:38] matey fucking over a corporation is like going on a rampage against puppies everywhere [09:39] matey its basically puppy 9/11 times a million [09:39] matey thats 9 million, one hundred eleven thousand [09:39] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [09:39] matey sorry one hundred ten thousand [09:40] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:40] matey but we can throw in another 1000 puppies, whos going to stop us [09:40] matey ibm is used to rampages in the millions, they like to help with the logistics [09:40] psydruid I hope those puppies go to a haven of freedom [09:40] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:41] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@tb3bujhpbsxqn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:41] psydruid like a puppy camp [09:41] psydruid IBM will take care of all of the supervision [09:41] matey its funny that google hired out all the old unix people [09:41] psydruid with cameras and all that [09:42] matey because at bell labs, things worked extremely well for them but if anyone else wanted to work in peace they had to fork it [09:42] matey which is sort of how it is for google now [09:42] psydruid do you think these people brought that philosophy to google? [09:42] matey want a version of unix that doesnt bankrupt you? write bsd [09:43] matey want a free os that doesnt spy on you? fork... i dont know [09:43] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [09:43] matey do you think these people brought that philosophy to google? <- i think they reached an age where they cared less about such things [09:43] matey age / tax-bracket [09:43] matey rob pike was a unix guy-- google [09:43] matey ken thompson-- invented unix-- google [09:43] SomeH4x0r hi [09:44] matey hi [09:44] psydruid my golang way or the alternative way [09:44] matey not much to like about golang [09:44] matey i dont know if dennie ritchie worked on it [09:44] matey dennis [09:45] matey ken thomspon was the os guy [09:45] psydruid brought to you by robus picus cuntus extraordinarius [09:45] matey i mean, i dont know much about bcpl and b, i know unix wasnt ported to c until later [09:45] matey rob pike seems not so horrible for a googler [09:45] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:46] matey i think-- i dont know know, really-- some of these people kind of sell out and compartmentalise [09:46] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@49wru8thva7vu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] matey "yes, i work for google but" [09:46] matey i mean its not, they worked for BELL LABS FIRST! [09:46] matey bell labs wasnt exactly run by saints, they were big tech when whats now big tech was still working out of a garage [09:47] *kiki has quit (connection closed) [09:47] matey so its not like rob pike (to be fair about this) was working for some nice little company then sold out [09:47] matey he was working for bell [09:47] matey bell hasnt been a nice little company since the 1800s, and even then they were working with edison ffs [09:47] *kiki (~kiki@qbeewnuez7vaq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:48] matey edison invented the kinds of practices that ibm and microsoft would be famous for [09:48] matey it almost seems like he invented the eula [09:48] matey he stole more than steve jobs dreamed of [09:48] matey and his buddy ford liked hitler, iirc [09:48] matey so you know, shades of the past, shades of the present [09:48] psydruid google was always going to be their destination, even though it only came into existence much later [09:49] matey bell used to make it illegal for you to connect anyone elses equipment to their network [09:49] matey and they went too far, at one point someone made this metal thing [09:50] matey basically a horn that attached to your phone so you could hear better [09:50] matey no electronics [09:50] matey and bell tried to say they forbade its use "on their network" [09:50] matey and the courts were like-- yeah, no [09:50] matey fuck off [09:50] matey and eventually people started being allowed to use things like 3rd-party telephones and answering machines [09:51] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:51] matey but you used to have to RENT your phone from bell, not unlike people rent routers from isps today [09:51] matey this was before my time of course [09:51] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@49wru8thva7vu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:51] matey but ive heard stories, and they seem to be true [09:51] matey lessig mentioned the same lawsuit i just did, with the phone attachment [09:52] psydruid it was like that until the 90s here [09:53] matey i wonder if we will have to rent scrollbars from libreoffice :) [09:53] psydruid and now the former telecom monopolist is losing more and more customers to fibre [09:53] matey you know, you get the basic package, it does everything except scroll through the fucking pages [09:53] matey and thats a "buy in-game" cloud feature [09:53] psydruid of course no one has a fixed phone line anymore [09:54] matey you need an internet connection to activate your scrollbars, per-use [09:54] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:54] matey in the states, one of the few consumers laws that wasnt total shit was the telecom act of 1976 [09:54] matey it applies to copper lines, but not coax or fibre [09:55] psydruid Dead rat has infiltrated the free software kingdom just like Microsoft has been doing [09:55] matey so for many years, i stayed with dsl because fuck coax and fibre, there are no consumer laws that do a damned thing about those [09:55] psydruid I'm surprised the former hasn't been bought by the latter yet [09:55] matey Dead rat has infiltrated the free software kingdom just like Microsoft has been doing <- i said a year or two ago that youll understand ibm and microsoft better if you think of them as a single company (even if theyre not at all) than if you dont [09:56] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [09:56] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights [09:56] matey even with the github purchase, its a useful perspective [09:56] matey with copper lines the solution is simple [09:56] matey they dont want to maintain them, they let them fall apart [09:57] matey everyone will move to coax (ip telephony) and fibre (same) and mobile for phones [09:57] matey and the copper lines (pots) will fall down on their own, never to be put back up [09:57] matey i presume someone will salvage them for scrap [09:58] matey most likely the phone companies [09:58] matey maybe theyll sell the lines to the power companies [09:58] matey they have trouble sending electricity over coax and glass [09:59] *goosestepping_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:59] matey coax would never work over long distances and glass of course is an insulator [09:59] matey youd have to drop the current down to be both safe and useless over coax ● May 20 [10:00] matey the reason they use high voltage is it degrades less over distances [10:00] matey but copper is copper and the power companies could use the lines to make new ones, or something [10:00] matey maybe theyll make pennies out of them instead [10:00] matey or bullets [10:01] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [10:01] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights [10:01] matey ive only seen bullet casings in brass and other stuff, though maybe some copper tips or something (i really dont know) [10:02] matey im sure they wont throw the old phone lines in a dump, too valuable [10:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [10:05] psydruid criminals often steal copper from train tracks here [10:12] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@f59zjhyxi6kq8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:19] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [10:20] matey /me runs 160 files with 60,000 lines of text including code through a variant of "uniq" and gets 11,000 lines from that [10:20] matey uniq only removes consecutive repeats, which is often preferable-- this removes non-consecutive repeats [10:21] matey if youre looking through 60,000 lines and have no use to read the same line twice, this is useful [10:21] matey if that didnt come up i wouldnt have written it [10:23] psydruid why do developers duplicate so much code? [10:23] psydruid copypasta developers they are indeed [10:24] psydruid making lots of spaghetti [10:27] psydruid because they need to feed their children [10:29] matey 20% [10:29] matey ive looked through 32 of about 160 files [10:30] matey im just reviewing the contents of them-- i dont need to look through anything twice [10:30] matey to see whats there [10:38] matey 50% [10:48] matey 75% [10:49] matey done! [10:50] matey that could have taken 5 times longer... 09:20 09:49 it took 30 minutes, could have taken 3 hours [10:51] matey it took less than 30 minutes to write that program and its already paid for itself at least 4 times [10:51] matey such a simple thing too [10:52] matey uniq doesnt need a buffer for the entire file, it can work on a stream [10:52] matey this is more like sort-- sort needs to know all the input before it can give output [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 324.48 ● May 20 [11:02] TR News Sony https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/more-details-sony-reportedly-telling-its-game-studios-not-to-comment-on-abortion-issue/ | Source: Techdirt [11:02] TR Bot Details: Sony Reportedly Telling Its Game Studios Not To Comment On Abortion Issue | Techdirt [11:04] TR News "disinfo" as censorship pretext; sounds like something China and Russia do... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/homeland-security-once-again-demonstrates-its-own-incompetence-pauses-orwellian-named-disinfo-board/ | Source: Techdirt [11:04] TR Bot Security Once Again Demonstrates Its Own Incompetence, Pauses Orwellian Named Disinfo Board | Techdirt [11:09] TR News "The Logitech Z906 is a well-rounded 5.1 surround sound system." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/19/hacking-the-logitech-z906-speaker-system/ | Source: Hackaday [11:09] TR Bot The Logitech Z906 Speaker System | Hackaday [11:09] TR News OpenCV https://hackaday.com/2022/05/19/opencv-running-on-tiny-microcontroller/ | Source: Hackaday [11:09] TR Bot Running On A Tiny Microcontroller | Hackaday [11:11] TR News "Last summer, the Supreme Court finally applied some common sense to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA)." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/following-supreme-court-precedent-federal-court-says-unexpected-collection-of-data-doesnt-violate-the-cfaa/ | Source: Techdirt [11:11] TR Bot Supreme Court Precedent, Federal Court Says Unexpected Collection Of Data Doesnt Violate The CFAA | Techdirt [11:13] TR News "former Megaupload executives Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk revealed that they had reached a deal" https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-face-10-years-in-prison-on-new-organized-crime-charges-220519/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:13] TR Bot Pair Face 10 Years in Prison on New Organized Crime Charges * TorrentFreak [11:14] TR News MKVCage https://torrentfreak.com/court-foreign-torrent-site-operator-can-be-sued-in-the-us-220519/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:14] TR Bot Foreign Torrent Site Operator Can Be Sued in the US * TorrentFreak [11:14] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] TR News "Her work spans international and continental work to advance the library sector as a key player in education" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/19/episode-31-open-culture-voices-buhle-mbambo-thata/ | Source: Creative Commons [11:15] TR Bot Episode 31: Open Culture VOICES Buhle Mbambo-Thata - Creative Commons [11:15] TR News "she was scientific advisor at the National Institute of Art History from 2008 to 2016" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/19/episode-32-open-culture-voices-martine-denoyelle/ | Source: Creative Commons [11:15] TR Bot Episode 32: Open Culture VOICES Martine Denoyelle - Creative Commons [11:18] TR News "On March 10, two workers at a construction site in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, were straddling a steel beam 15 feet in the air" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/immigrant-workers-exploitation-alba/ | Source: The Nation [11:18] TR Bot Immigrant Construction Workers Fight Back Against Exploitation | The Nation [11:32] TR News ICE https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/19/ice-spying-you blame Microsoft, too http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [11:32] TR Bot Opinion | ICE Is Spying on You | Farrah Hassen [11:32] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [11:44] matey so this is fun [11:44] matey ive reached the limit on windows i can have open? [11:44] matey somehow [11:44] matey i can close one and open another [11:45] *CrystalMath (~coderain@d6muhfvekfg54.irc) has joined #techrights [11:45] matey this has got to be a setting of some kind [11:45] matey or a bug in x [11:47] matey this is the first time ive discoved this (non?) limit in a year and a half [11:48] matey ill have to see if i can recreate it predictably on another machine [11:48] matey obviously i have too many things im working on to fuck around (deliberately at least) with this one [11:49] matey oh, also let it be known i dont have a lot of ram (by any standards) on this machine [11:49] matey and ive got a window open with hundreds of mb of text cached in the ram [11:49] matey which COULD BE a factor here [11:52] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 19, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/irc-log-190522/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/irc-log-190522/ [11:52] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Thursday, May 19, 2022 | Techrights [11:52] psydroid2 I don't think I've run into any such limitations so far [11:53] TR News Ubuntu vs Manjaro: Comparing the Different Linux Experiences Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165056 [11:53] TR Bot Ubuntu vs Manjaro: Comparing the Different Linux Experiences | Tux Machines [11:55] MinceR afaik X doesn't really treat top-level windows specially [11:55] MinceR so all sorts of widgets inside your windows might also count against such a limit, if there was one [11:56] matey I don't think I've run into any such limitations so far <- i never have [11:56] matey ive got well over 200 days of uptime, everythings running smoothly [11:56] matey ive put this thing through hell all week [11:57] matey and not even the browser has fallen over [11:57] matey but if i open more than 70 something windows :) [11:57] matey which i usually have no need for [11:57] matey at some point i try to open another fucking xterm and it just wont [11:57] matey until i close a window [11:58] matey then it opens the one it "refused" to before. [11:58] matey this is fascinating, ill try to recreate it when i get the chance [11:58] TR News 10 Fun Free and Open Source Turn-Based Strategy Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165057 [11:58] TR Bot 10 Fun Free and Open Source Turn-Based Strategy Games | Tux Machines [11:58] *psydroid2 had 400 Firefox browser tabs across 20 windows open on a system with a dualcore processor and 4 GB of RAM back in 2008 [11:58] matey ive got SHITLOADS of stuff open and ive been doing stuff by the tens of thousands all week [11:58] matey ACTION had 400 Firefox browser tabs across 20 windows open on a system with a dualcore processor and 4 GB of RAM back in 2008 [11:59] matey yeah ive got similar specs here [11:59] matey plus ive got a browser with literally 300 (closer to 400) tabs open as we speak [11:59] matey and browsers are a fucking beast compared to what they were 12 years ago [11:59] matey text editors open with hundreds of mb of data ● May 20 [12:00] matey and this is the kicker [12:00] psydroid2 I got into an argument with Christopher Blizzard on his blog (0xdeadbeef) [12:00] matey ive still got loads of free ram [12:00] psydroid2 because I said that the browser becoming slow and unresponsive was unacceptable [12:00] TR News Today I see a headline speaking of a "Post-"Roe" World". I didn't know the United States is the world. Most of the world is still civilised enough. [12:00] matey but ive got more stuff open than usual, i mean [12:00] matey without a tiling wm i couldnt manage 70 fucking open windows (on a single monitor) [12:00] TR News Bush https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/19/telling-slip-george-w-bush-condemns-unjustified-and-brutal-invasion-iraq | Source: Common Dreams [12:00] TR Bot In Telling Slip, George W. Bush Condemns the 'Unjustified and Brutal Invasion of Iraq' [12:01] psydroid2 they only started using processes years later when everyone and their cat had already moved over to chrome/ium [12:02] matey well browser performance on gnu/linux was getting to the point where i wanted to beat someone [12:02] matey we all get impatient sometimes, but at the moment-- i dont know, ive used the browser less this week because i was busy [12:02] matey but i dont have any major complaints atm [12:02] matey i would like it if the browser was more lightweight though [12:03] TR News Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/dojs-new-cfaa-policy-good-start-does-not-go-far-enough-protect-security | Source: EFF [12:03] TR Bot DOJs New CFAA Policy is a Good Start But Does Not Go Far Enough to Protect Security Researchers | Electronic Frontier Foundation [12:03] psydroid2 I don't have many complaints anymore either [12:03] psydroid2 because wherever possible I've stopped using the browser [12:03] matey right? [12:04] matey ive got hundreds of tabs open because ive been working with (tens of) thousands of webpages (recently) [12:04] matey for the past few months [12:04] TR News Buffalo https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/nys-attorney-general-launches-ridiculous-blatantly-unconstitutional-investigations-into-websites-the-buffalo-shooter-used/ | Source: Techdirt [12:04] TR Bot Launches Ridiculous, Blatantly Unconstitutional Investigations Into Twitch, Discord; Deflecting Blame From NYs Own Failings | Techdirt [12:05] TR News So-called "broadband" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/billions-in-broadband-funding-begin-to-flow-before-weve-mapped-broadband-gaps/ | Source: Techdirt [12:05] TR Bot In Broadband Funding Begin To Flow Before Weve Mapped Broadband Gaps | Techdirt [12:05] psydroid2 I do think code bloat is a big problem but there are no easy solutions [12:06] psydroid2 because the entire stack has been infected [12:06] matey most of it [12:06] matey still, in terms of stability [12:07] TR News "Clearviews facial recognition AI business model has always been fuck everything. The company scraped the open web of all the data it could find" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/19/clearview-settles-lawsuit-agrees-to-stop-doing-business-in-illinois/ | Source: Techdirt [12:07] TR Bot Settles Lawsuit, Agrees To Stop Doing Business In Illinois | Techdirt [12:07] matey for what im running, it doesnt even feel like an os [12:07] matey it feels like something military-grade [12:07] matey i dont mean in terms of security [12:07] TR News "Popular Informations Tesnim Zekeria about baby formula shortages" https://fair.org/home/we-live-in-an-economy-that-provides-little-support-to-new-parents/ | Source: FAIR [12:07] TR Bot 'We Live in an Economy That Provides Little Support to New Parents' - FAIR [12:07] matey i mean in terms of stability [12:07] matey i used to have some mil-spec laptops [12:07] MinceR could be a limitation in the window manager, for all i know [12:07] matey made of titanium [12:07] TR News "work much with computers at a low level" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/19/scotts-cpu-from-the-bottom-up/ | Source: Hackaday [12:07] TR Bot CPU From The Bottom Up | Hackaday [12:08] matey this environment feels like that [12:08] matey well i wouldnt switch to a less limited wm if its that [12:08] matey i mean [12:08] matey im definitely going to experiment with this [12:08] psydroid2 I think openbsd could be a very good operating system with a few improvements (not IBM Dead Rat "improvements") [12:08] matey see if i can find the limits on a system that hasnt done so much this week [12:08] psydroid2 so I am glad IBM Dead Rat chose GNU/Linux as its victim [12:08] matey i ran a file that was less than a second long on mplayer on a loop this week [12:09] schestowitz code blaot can be a non-problem [12:09] schestowitz just modularise it [12:09] psydroid2 just get rid of it [12:09] schestowitz that take s alot of extra work though [12:09] schestowitz wordpress used to do that [12:09] matey bloat runs faster than modularisation [12:09] schestowitz until wordpress itself, the core, became bloat [12:09] psydroid2 not if you design and implement things correctly [12:09] schestowitz and worse, JS mess [12:09] psydroid2 which few developers manage to do these days [12:09] matey just like software bloat outruns moores law [12:09] matey it outruns organised code [12:10] psydroid2 wirth's law [12:10] schestowitz writing more lines of code is easy [12:10] matey which few developers manage to do these days <- exactly [12:10] schestowitz you can write bad code at 50 LOCs per hour [12:10] schestowitz and it'll work [12:10] matey there are to real-life solutions to bloat [12:10] matey 1. prevent it [12:10] schestowitz but after 100 hours you get a monster [12:10] matey 2. replace it [12:10] psydroid2 those are the only 2 solutions indeed [12:10] matey the third option is manage it, which is a desperate move that works only sometimes [12:11] psydroid2 but no one wants to mention the elephant in the room [12:11] psydroid2 IBM Dead Rat is good for managing it [12:11] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/251427 [12:11] TR Bot I took a denazification course. I'm aware of my guilt. Kherson resident forced to apologize to Russian military on camera [12:11] schestowitz matey: did you watch that LP video? [12:11] schestowitz where he attacks Linux? [12:11] matey hes an idiot [12:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/05/16/elce-pseudo-novelty/ [12:11] TR Bot IBMs Lennart Poettering on Breaking Software for Pseudo Novelty | Techrights [12:11] psydroid2 Lennart Potter [12:11] matey i mean clearly hes clever in some arenas [12:12] psydroid2 Harry Putering and Lennart Putering [12:12] psydroid2 guess what abomination can come out of that? [12:12] TR News "There are two ways for a server serial console to work in the x86 world." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/SerialConsolesUnappealing | Source: uni Toronto [12:12] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/SerialConsolesUnappealing [12:12] psydroid2 what about not working in the x86 world [12:12] matey hairy poettering and the goblet of bloat [12:12] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/20/7347388/ [12:12] TR Bot Another Mariupol: Haidai posts photo of Rubizhne, which has been destroyed by the Russians | Ukrayinska Pravda [12:13] matey hairy poettering and the shutdown stone [12:13] TR News "Software Engineering vacancies at Canonical are numerous" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/canonical-linux-gaming-job-advert | Source: Tom's Hardware [12:13] TR Bot Canonical Job Advert Suggests Expanding 'Ubuntu Gaming' Team | Tom's Hardware [12:13] matey hairy poettering and the chamber of c init code [12:13] matey hairy poettering and the half-bloat prince [12:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:14] matey you shouldnt laugh at your own jokes, but that one made me giggle [12:14] matey hairy poettering and the goblet <- and the cpu on fire [12:17] psydroid2 this should become an entire bestseller series [12:17] psydroid2 it's ok, it happens to me plenty of times [12:18] psydroid2 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/key-investments-advance-data-center-sustainability.html [12:18] TR Bot Makes Key Investments to Advance Data Center Sustainability [12:19] psydroid2 Intel greenwashing and pollutionwashing [12:20] matey trust our bloated cpu [12:20] matey risc will never be powerful enough [12:21] matey intel is mother, intel is father [12:21] matey cancel stallman, systemd is king [12:22] *psydroid2 believes it's pathetic to be so tied to an ISA, especially for a semiconductor company [12:22] matey cancel linus, you need intel. you NEED intel! [12:22] TR News "I only arrived back on the Linux desktop recently in the context of games" https://rubenerd.com/time-splits-between-oss-via-mark-c/ | Source: Ruben Schade [12:22] TR Bot Time splits between various OSs, via Mark C. [12:22] matey they didnt even design it [12:22] psydroid2 yes [12:22] matey they were hired to manufacture it [12:22] matey then they bought the rights [12:23] psydroid2 x86 should have died in the late 80s [12:23] matey theyre the microsoft in hardware-- right down to their biggest innovation [12:23] matey microsoft of hardware [12:23] psydroid2 it's not that intel didn't try to replace it [12:23] psydroid2 they just never succeeded [12:23] matey intel tried to go 64bit [12:23] matey amd managed [12:23] matey risc managed too [12:23] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1527405751546826756 [12:23] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: Professor Alexei Fenenko, leading research fellow at the Institute of International Security Studies, says that for Russia, its war in Ukraine is a rehearsal for a potential larger conflict with NATO countries." | nitter [12:24] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1527501602378104840 [12:24] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Head of RT Margarita Simonyan bowed to the Russian troops while appearing on state TV. She thanked them "for everything they're doing" in Ukraine. When you see that, remember all the suffering innocents who have been raped, murdered, bombed, shot, displaced & forcefully deported." | nitter [12:24] psydroid2 risc was 64-bit in 1990 [12:24] psydroid2 with mips and soon after alpha [12:24] TR News "Why might you want to run CURRENT?" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165059 | Source: Klara [12:24] TR Bot Evaluating FreeBSD CURRENT for Production Use | Tux Machines [12:24] psydroid2 IBM had it many years before [12:24] matey naturally [12:25] matey vax was 32bit when, 70s or 80s [12:25] psydroid2 yes [12:25] TR News "wrote in what are believed to be his online journals that he learned how to illegally modify his rifle by watching YouTube videos" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/buffalo-shooting-shooter-payton-gendron-video-youtube-gun-rcna29709 | Source: NBC [12:25] TR Bot Buffalo shooting: YouTube videos that taught suspect to modify gun are still online [12:25] matey it takes more time to get that power into little computers [12:25] matey when its already in the larger ones [12:25] TR News "As part of restoring my Amiga 1000 into the beautiful machine it once was, I wanted to be able to use the floppy drive without having to use a USB stick" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/05/14/amiga-1000-restoration-floppy-drive-and-wcs-failure/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings [12:25] TR Bot Amiga 1000 Restoration: Floppy Drive and WCS Failure? LinuxJedi's /dev/null [12:26] psydroid2 it's always about more performance [12:26] TR News "The Pi does not perform swimmingly. But... I did get a single array of 60 hard drives20TB Exos HDDs to be exact" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/petabyte-pi-project | Source: Jeff Geerling [12:26] TR Bot The Petabyte Pi Project | Jeff Geerling [12:26] psydroid2 but what if I want the same performance in 1W instead of 5W? [12:26] matey right [12:26] matey and i still dont like 64bit when i dont have gobs of free ram [12:26] psydroid2 I think we are reaching the point of more "diversity" in silicon [12:26] psydroid2 I understand [12:27] TR News "repurposed Anet A8 Plus 3D printer" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/18/this-robotic-system-automatically-scans-film-slides-on-its-own/ | Source: Arduino [12:27] TR Bot This robotic system automatically scans film slides on its own | Arduino Blog [12:27] psydroid2 on RISC-V and especially ARM that is becoming harder [12:27] psydroid2 some modern 64-bit chips don't support 32-bit instructions anymore [12:28] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165058 [12:28] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:28] psydroid2 in the case of ARM there is only one general-purpose core left that does [12:28] TR News Evaluating FreeBSD CURRENT for Production Use Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165059 [12:28] psydroid2 but that is also the case of a cleaned up ISA [12:29] TR News "I wanted to grab a CSV version of a JSON representation of an entityset in the Northwind OData service." https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/19/json-object-values-into-csv-with-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams [12:29] TR Bot JSON object values into CSV with jq | DJ Adams [12:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. 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[13:39] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/20/7347436/ [13:39] TR Bot Russian military shelled a school in Sievierodonetsk: three people killed | Ukrayinska Pravda [13:41] TR News "Ever since the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) in late 2008, central banks have kept real interest rates close to, and for much of the time below, zero." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/metastablecoins.html | Source: David Rosenthal [13:41] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: Metastablecoins [13:41] TR News "The oil and gas industry is largely foreign-owned so outside of salaries paid in Australia most benefits of the industrys activities go offshore." https://gerikson.com/blog/comm/Libera-one-year.html | Source: Gustaf Erikson [13:41] TR Bot Libera.chat, one year later - The occasional scrivener - Gustaf Erikson's blog [13:42] TR News "People who put their hard-earned cash into a tumbling cryptocurrency unit that is at the heart of the latest sharp decline in digital coins may be regretting they did not read a recent paper by Canadian financial technology scholar" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crpto-tumble-column-don-pittis-1.6450411 | Source: CBC [13:42] TR Bot Crypto markets tumble and investors get their fingers burned | CBC News [13:42] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) 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"However, that claim about Costco hiking its prices is false." https://www.salon.com/2022/05/19/swallows-fake-news-on-costco-hot-dog-price-hike/ | Source: Salon [13:48] TR Bot GOP swallows fake news on Costco hot dog price hike | Salon.com [13:49] TR News Social control media is a weapon for liars and frauds (like Musk) because there's no fact-checking [13:55] TR News Coalition to Boris Johnson: Sanctions must protect Russian internet access https://www.accessnow.org/internet-access-russia-belarus-uk-government-letter/ we have our own Putin, another bloodthirsty mobster [13:55] TR Bot Coalition to Boris Johnson: Sanctions must protect Russian internet access [13:55] TR News Letter to U.K. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus https://www.accessnow.org/letter-to-uk-government-do-not-disrupt-internet-access-in-russia-or-belarus/ [13:55] TR Bot Letter to U.K. government: Do not disrupt internet access in Russia or Belarus - Access Now [13:57] TR News Microsoft and its minions in ZDNet spread FUD against Linux. 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Buy a New PC! | Techrights [14:24] TR News "The goal of this SIG is to help the folks working on Fedora's bootloader stack to keep Fedora booting on systems which require Legacy BIOS to boot." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/BiosBoot "Legacy" is a loaded propaganda term [14:24] TR Bot SIGs/BiosBoot - Fedora Project Wiki [14:25] TR News [PATCH v4 0/2] x86/fpu: Make AMX state ready for CPU idle - Chang S. Bae https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220517222430.24524-1-chang.seok.bae@intel.com/ Source: intel [14:25] TR Bot [PATCH v4 0/2] x86/fpu: Make AMX state ready for CPU idle - Chang S. Bae [14:26] TR News xwayland: Add -force-xrandr-emulation switch https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=7cdcdfea08ad9d63466286a6f94783cbf5fc3717&utm_source=anzwix [14:26] TR Bot xorg/xserver - X server (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver) [14:27] TR News "Galleon Systems GPS NTP time server had a command injection vulnerability in the firmware of their NTS GPS device which could allow total control of the device through the web management interface." https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/galleon-nts-6002-gps-command-injection-vulnerability-cve-2022-27224/ [14:27] TR Bot Galleon NTS-6002-GPS Command Injection vulnerability (CVE-2022-27224) | Pen Test Partners [14:28] TR News Hans de Goede still works for ICBM. So many of his colleagues left already. https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/26260.html [14:28] TR Bot Announcing the Fedora BIOS boot SIG - Hans' hacking log LiveJournal [14:29] TR News ICBM pretends that CentOS is still a thing https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-20-2022/ almost all the CentOS people have resigned [14:29] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update - Week 20 2022 Fedora Community Blog [14:30] TR News "Smart" is for dumb consumers https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/bluetooth-flaw-allows-remote-unlocking-of-digital-locks.html [14:30] TR Bot Flaw Allows Remote Unlocking of Digital Locks - Schneier on Security [14:31] TR News Wait until they find out the car too can be hijacked and controlled remotely https://jalopnik.com/researchers-break-into-a-tesla-and-drive-away-using-blu-1848938417 [14:31] TR Bot Hackers Break Into Teslas and Digital Locks That Use Bluetooth [14:34] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165061 [14:34] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:34] matey xrevan86 i found a very naughty thing that insane people can add to their python 3 code-- you wont like it [14:34] matey its not SO MUCH worse than what you showed me [14:34] matey hold your nose: [14:35] TR News Mozilla opens testing for Manifest v3 extensions in Firefox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165050#comment-33742 [14:35] TR Bot Firefox for Android no longer gives the user control over the browsing experience. Privacy Browser turns off JavaScript by default. | Tux Machines [14:35] matey import codecs [14:35] matey codecs.register_error("strict", codecs.ignore_errors) [14:35] matey "that does it matey, im not talking to you anymore" [14:35] matey believe me i understand [14:36] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165062 [14:36] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:36] TR News Taking a Break from Social Media Makes you Happier and Less Anxious - Study Hacks - Cal Newport https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2022/05/16/taking-a-break-from-social-media-makes-you-happier-and-less-anxious/ [14:36] TR Bot Taking a Break from Social Media Makes you Happier and Less Anxious - Study Hacks - Cal Newport [14:38] psydroid2 python 3 commits suicide if you give it the right orders? [14:38] matey howeverno it commits suicide by default [14:39] matey because if you see a little fucky unicode, you should pull the pin on a grenade and hold it close to your body [14:39] TR News The locking should be the LEAST of the worries https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-cars-bluetooth-locks-vulnerable-hackers-researchers-2022-05-17/ "smart" cars = back doors http://techrights.org/2021/12/20/not-so-smart-cars/ [14:39] matey dont by any means keep calm and carry on [14:39] TR Bot cars, Bluetooth locks, vulnerable to hackers, researchers say | Reuters [14:39] TR Bot Smart People Reject the Newest Cars | Techrights [14:39] matey i mean it really depends on your goals [14:39] matey if 90% of what you do with python is shell stuff [14:39] TR News A programmers guide to GNU C Compiler | https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gnu-c-compiler Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [14:39] TR Bot programmer's guide to GNU C Compiler | Opensource.com [14:40] matey you certainly want the OPTIONS of strict warnings but [14:40] matey i mean the shell barely distinguishes between a number and a fucking string! [14:40] matey i think javascript is (just slightly) stricter [14:40] TR News KDAB at Embedded World 2022 in Nuremberg - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/embedded-world-2022-in-nuremberg/ Source: kdab [14:40] TR Bot at Embedded World 2022 in Nuremberg - KDAB [14:40] matey i dont want the shell to stop running when i paste a string into it [14:41] matey and you know, this is why error trapping exists [14:41] TR News Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165063 [14:41] TR Bot Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:41] matey but relying on error trapping where loading unicode is concerned [14:41] matey is like relying on a felt hat when someone has a gun to your head [14:42] matey so my attitude is "fuck all this, ignore the errors and RUN THE FUCKING PROGRAM" [14:42] TR News "I abandoned the idea to interview children younger than 9 years because it seems they are not necessarily aware that they are using the internet." https://curlybracket.net/2022/05/20/internet-kids-pt2.html [14:42] TR Bot How do kids conceive the internet? - part 2 | curlybracket - Ulrike Uhlig - illustration [14:42] matey i was happier when it was the default [14:42] matey and it only took years to find a way to get that. [14:42] matey python 3 is GREAT [14:43] TR News Funny as the so-called "professionals" I know are chronic liars and manipulative assholes //jacobian.org/2022/may/19/honesty/ [14:43] matey years later when you find the fix [14:43] matey its still tedious to implement [14:43] matey i switched to python because it was simple. [14:43] matey it WAS simple. [14:43] matey it was optionally ridiculous. i was okay with that, as long as it was optional. [14:44] matey then some dicks came in and tried to push for all of that as defaults [14:44] matey you know, if wanted to code in a REAL LANGUAGE, id use a REAL LANGUAGE [14:44] matey not this [14:44] matey i wanted a fun language that let me get real work done [14:44] matey thats what python used to be like [14:45] matey now it seems like a career in law would be less tedious and detail-oriented [14:45] TR News "Gatess deepest ideological commitments, not just to intellectual [sic] property [sic] rights [sic] but also to the conflation of these rights with an imaginary free market in pharmaceuticalsan industry dominated by companies whose power derives from politically constructed and politically imposed monopolies." https://newrepublic.com/article/162000/bill-gates-impeded-global-access-covid-vaccines [14:45] TR Bot Bill Gates, Vaccine Monster | The New Republic [14:45] matey i think about a lua like someone in a dead-end job thinks about vacation, but really luas been an option forever and i havent switched yet [14:46] matey i knew about lua before i even WANTED python-- so like 13 years ago [14:46] matey people who want to understand my feelings on python... [14:46] matey basically i want a friendlier more powerful AWK [14:47] matey "thats exactly why perl" [14:47] matey NO, FUCK perl [14:47] matey perl is basically aids, only slightly more useful [14:49] matey and even with the things i to with/to python that are horrors by pythonista (a pythonista is a barista that tells everyone else how theyre supposed to code because theyre experts in computing fashion) standards [14:50] matey pep is an elite fashion school for paradigm cargo cults that implement haskell in the worst possible way (nearly as bad as what i do with python) [14:50] matey even with all that, perl is still looser [14:50] matey by design [14:50] matey at least with python you CAN make it strict-looking [14:50] matey with perl, you leave it all up to god [14:51] psydroid2 such a mess, such a shame [14:51] matey "we draw a big circle, we throw all our data way up in the air, and whatever god wants, he keeps!" [14:51] matey python 3 wont even stay still [14:52] matey its a new language from year to year [14:52] matey they have no idea how fucking stupid that is [14:52] matey stability IS A FEATURE [14:52] matey and a side effect of design [14:52] matey if you design it really well, why would you fuck it up? [14:52] matey because fashion [14:53] matey because "oh look, this other language is SERIOUS BUSINESS and it does this thing-- lets make python do that" [14:53] matey and since its better LETS TELL EVERYBODY THEY HAVE TO DO THAT [14:53] matey the language makes it optional [14:53] matey but the users are much pushier than the language [14:54] matey and since free software is built primarily on teams of volunteers telling you how stuff works [14:54] matey theyre going to tell every noob not to commit crimes of fashion [14:55] matey because if its better in a real language [14:55] matey its also better when the same feature is poorly implemented in kichensinkthon [14:55] matey and so what if it takes 5 times longer to write the same line of code? [14:55] matey and you have to know literally 5 times as many details [14:56] matey that doesnt mean python is no longer good for protot-- YES ACTUALLY, IT DOES mean that [14:56] matey at least relatively speaking. but its a tradeoff [14:56] matey do you want it to be easy, or LOOK good? [14:56] matey of course you want it to LOOK good. everyone is looking. [14:56] matey (this is a huge trope in open source, but python was always "open source") [14:56] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165064 [14:56] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:57] psydroid2 guido guided it right into the abyss [14:57] matey UNFORTUNATELY python is built on top of a REALLY cool language [14:57] TR News Games: Canonical, Valve and Wine, Deck UI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165065 [14:57] TR Bot Games: Canonical, Valve and Wine, Deck UI | Tux Machines [14:57] matey he had a better idea when it was a quick holiday project [14:57] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:57] matey linux and gnu and python all started as quick projects, very casual [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] matey they only went to hell (thers a bit of a fallacy here, doesnt mean the conclusion is false) when they became life-or-death serious [14:58] matey projects that take themselves too seriously have to do some really stupid things to look good [14:59] matey its great if you want to be more of a cult than you started out as [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 307.86 [14:59] matey there really should be a gnuseum [14:59] matey a museum for gnu [14:59] TR News Links 20/05/2022: Fedora BIOS Boot SIG | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/fedora-bios-boot-sig/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/fedora-bios-boot-sig/ [14:59] TR Bot Links 20/05/2022: Fedora BIOS Boot SIG | Techrights ● May 20 [15:00] matey i would say gnu+unix but im not trying to start a war INSIDE a museum [15:00] schestowitz_TR2 gnu is used more than ever before [15:00] matey and people would be throwing things at each other-- rocks, molotov cocktails [15:00] matey gnu is used more than ever before <- funny how marketshare arguments are "bullshit" when windows used them, and we knew it then [15:01] matey but now that gnu has traded integrity for marketshare, suddenly its relevant. [15:01] psydroid2 gnu is at the peak of its "relevance" [15:02] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165066 [15:02] psydroid2 just like steam is at the peak of its "relevance" [15:02] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:02] psydroid2 we won, but actually we lost [15:04] matey Monopolies care about marketshare, because if you dont have it youre not a monopoly. When you have freedom, people often go their own way that reduces the likelihood that everybody does (or uses) the same thing. http://techrights.org/2020/07/26/defective-by-design-dbl/ [15:04] TR Bot Defective By Design is Defective By License | Techrights [15:04] matey i couldnt find any articles where roy talked about the marketshare fallacy [15:04] matey theres probably somethign in the halloween documents [15:05] matey its also common sense if you realised that being used less than windows never made an alternative inferior [15:05] matey gnu is being used, alright [15:05] matey stallman is being used more than ever before too [15:06] matey hes become a used, though hes spent most of his life fighting so other people dont have to be useds [15:06] matey gcc is still more forkable than llvm [15:06] matey but calling it free software as long as ibm controls it is... [15:06] matey i mean youre free to do that [15:07] matey gcc is potentially free software [15:08] matey i certainly dont think llvm is more free [15:09] matey we won, but actually we lost <- it took less to bring down troy [15:09] matey there was only one trojan horse originally [15:10] matey open source had the trojan royal canadian mounted police [15:10] matey an entire regiment of trojan horses [15:10] TR News The Lies and Delusions of Antnio Campinos | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/debunking-monopoly-tony/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/debunking-monopoly-tony/ [15:10] TR Bot The Lies and Delusions of Antnio Campinos | Techrights [15:10] matey from lieplanet to github to lynch mobs to the tech press [15:11] matey to the shill equivalent of dumbledores army, international in scale [15:11] matey and it took 20 years to line up all those ducks and have them nibble the free software movement to within an inch of its life [15:11] matey fugly ducklings [15:11] psydroid2 but all that matters is that we won, right? [15:11] matey if by "won" you mean "conquored" [15:11] matey yes, we won! [15:12] matey native americans living on reservations, when once they roamed everywhere freely: "WE WON!" [15:12] psydroid2 we won the prize for being taken for the biggest fools in the (free) software community [15:12] matey we were slaughtered by invaders-- LIKE A BOSS! [15:12] matey we won the prize for being taken for the biggest fools in the (free) software community <- pwnies for everyone [15:13] matey they should give free software a pwnie for managing to make a world class defeat look like progress [15:14] *goosestepping_ has quit (Quit: Ping timeout: Over 9000!!!) [15:14] matey it was an ideological takeover of iconoclasts by fake arseholes in suits-- but HEY! [15:14] matey ON THE PLUS SIDE, more people use gnu! [15:14] matey /me two thumbs up [15:15] matey and i think, fewer people develop it (but thats a guess) [15:15] matey so this is very sustainable [15:15] matey at a guess, it means [15:15] matey i mean, ibm maintains gcc [15:15] matey and gdb [15:15] matey github maintains an increasing amount of gnu while roy says people are leaving [15:15] matey gnu hasnt left github as far as i know [15:15] matey perl hasnt (needed for gnu) [15:16] matey python hasnt (needed for gnu) [15:16] matey bison hasnt [15:16] matey fridibi hasnt (gnu disputes it being part of gnu, but thats a silly thing to say when its on gnu.org/software, duh) [15:16] matey part of gcc is developed on github [15:17] matey the list does go on, but the point is the same no matter how many things we mention [15:17] matey so while more people use gnu [15:17] matey it is increasinly controlled by corporations [15:17] matey how will that end? two guesses [15:17] matey one naive, one correct [15:17] matey be my guest (article) [15:18] matey a gnu controlled by corporations is not a gnu at all [15:18] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@f59zjhyxi6kq8.irc) has joined #techrights [15:18] matey "id like to complain about this gnu which i bought not half an hour ago from this very boutique" [15:18] matey "whats wrong with it?" [15:19] matey "ill tell you whats wrong with it mate, its stone dead" [15:19] psydroid2 you can't develop software that is too complex for its own good [15:19] matey too bad they never cared about the philosophy that would have made gnu sustainable [15:19] matey because without being sustainable, it takes (dum dum dum) more corporate support to keep it going [15:19] matey or, they just entrusted red hat for funsies and to see what would happen [15:20] matey i mean dont get me wrong [15:20] matey red hat did contribute a fuckload to gcc [15:20] matey but whats the use of charity from someone whos just going to stab you later? [15:20] psydroid2 if I was GNU/Dead RAT/Linus, I would have nightmares about getting replaced [15:21] matey we would be better off with a project they DONT control, minus their contributions [15:21] matey but thats what freedom is like. [15:21] psydroid2 I think Linus mentioned something like that some years ago [15:21] matey it doesnt give up freedom for... optimisation [15:21] matey I think Linus mentioned something like that some years ago <- in what context, do you know? [15:22] activelow GPL does not sufficiently protect software freedom, with or without copyleft enforced [15:22] TR News In Turkey, Windows Market Share is Done to Almost Nothing, Linux is About Two Thirds of the Connected Devices | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/windows-in-turkey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/windows-in-turkey/ [15:22] TR Bot In Turkey, Windows Market Share is Done to Almost Nothing, Linux is About Two Thirds of the Connected Devices | Techrights [15:23] activelow it is missing standards, and sabotaged standards implemented [15:23] psydroid2 matey, it's hard to find now, but he mentioned that it something that occupied his mind [15:23] activelow because without restrictions, guarded by standards, corporations can fist any "improvement" into "free software" as they desire [15:23] psydroid2 you just can't find some things you read on the web anymore [15:24] *techrights_guest|61 (~050810a3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:24] psydroid2 it is* [15:24] *techrights_guest|61 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-20.gmi [15:31] TR News Turkeys Migration to Pardus Linux and LibreOffice Explained 2 Months Ago in LibrePlanet | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/huseyin-guc-pardus-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/huseyin-guc-pardus-linux/ [15:31] TR Bot Turkeys Migration to Pardus Linux and LibreOffice Explained 2 Months Ago in LibrePlanet | Techrights [15:32] schestowitz_TR2 psydroid2: 2015 [15:32] schestowitz_TR2 to present [15:33] TR News LTS Laptops gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/lts-laptops.gmi [15:34] TR News "Great article about how messed up it is that the ADL is conflating white supremacy with hafrada-critical groups like CAIR and JVP and how stark that messed-upness appears in the face of white supremacist terrorism. (And that there are conservative Jews that are themselves repeating anti-CRT, replacement theory talking points.)" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/mantle-of-responsibility [15:34] TR News "I opposed and ended a trivial patent once (I found prior art) but the lesson I learned from that is that its important to oppose even non-trivial patents. If I identify and stop only the stupid patents, Im only doing the work of the patent office for them." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/trivial-patents [15:39] psydroid2 schestowitz_TR2, unlike much of Europe they seem to be serious about migrating off Vista [15:40] psydroid2 the audio isn't that great [15:44] matey torvalds in 2020: "I find projects like WSL and Linux on Azure to be very good signs. Not only because I think it's a lot healthier than the relationship we _used_ to have with Microsoft 10+ years ago, but simply because I think having Linux in many different areas ends up making it a better kernel too." [15:44] matey its important to have a "healthy relationship" with microsoft [15:44] *dyfet (~dyfet@pool-108-11-0-57.atclnj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights [15:44] psydroid2 a predator-prey relationship [15:45] psydroid2 that's so healthy [15:45] matey "they seem to be serious about migrating off Vista"-- when they migrate from vista they can use something that has a "healthy relationship" with microsoft [15:45] activelow matey: did lt really say this? can't believe it. [15:45] matey why use microsoft-- when you can "move" to something that is friendly with it, which microsoft has steadily taken over for years? [15:45] matey its almost like-- NOT MOVING [15:45] matey we are migrating from microsoft-- to microsoft! [15:46] matey well, thats... progress? [15:46] matey i mean its still better than vista [15:46] matey but the point is-- theyre working on it [15:47] matey debian was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY bettern in 2014 [15:47] matey and 2013 [15:47] psydroid2 they're working on making it into a worthy vista successor [15:47] matey libreoffice was better in 2013-- it has top of the are SCROLLBAR technology [15:47] psydroid2 vistalinux 12 is just around the corner [15:47] matey scrollbars are seriously great! [15:47] matey linux was less taken over by microsoft in 2013 [15:47] matey the kernel (of course) [15:48] matey anyone who thinks linux is an operating system is smoking crack (matt lee) [15:48] matey "its called a rover metro now" "THEYVE REBADGED IT, YOU FOOL!" [15:49] matey "lynne, im not driving a mini metro" [15:49] TR News "Alex has found the perfect tool to bring your recipe management into the future. Plus, a convenient trick for scripts with passwords, dying hard drives, and the killer new Proxmox feature." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148657/recipe-for-success-self-hosted-71/ [15:49] TR Bot Recipe for Success | Self-Hosted 71 | Jupiter Broadcasting [15:50] matey stallman, or as his name is commonly mispronounced, linus torvalds [15:52] activelow most software was and still is conceptually flawed, since 1980s [15:52] TR News Brian has been used like a second "mascot" by the LF, which does not actually USE "Open Source" https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/linux-foundation-podcast-series-untold-stories-of-open-source/ [15:52] TR Bot Linux Foundation Podcast Series: "The Untold Stories of Open Source" - Linux Foundation [15:53] activelow for example, X11, was a DEC project (DEC now being defunct), and 30years later, their anti-competitive crap is causing headache [15:53] TR News Monopolies and American corporations (and their lawyers) are a priority for todays EPO, Europes second-largest institution http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/debunking-monopoly-tony/ [15:53] TR Bot The Lies and Delusions of Antnio Campinos | Techrights [15:53] activelow DEC, provided both, the basis for WindowsNT (with OpenVMS), and X11, and this type of corporate software became dominant [15:54] matey i want to hear about how defending stallman is "hero-worship" from a bunch of people who knelt at the feet of someone who basically plagiarised his lifes work [15:54] matey i mean thats what linux is [15:54] TR News Watch this graph of Windows going down from around 99.5% to just 11.55% this month http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/windows-in-turkey/ [15:54] TR Bot In Turkey, Windows Market Share is Down to Almost Nothing, Linux is About Two Thirds of the Connected Devices | Techrights [15:54] TR News This talk by Hseyin G was uploaded under the title Real world GNU/Linux story from Istanbul http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/huseyin-guc-pardus-linux/ [15:54] TR Bot Turkeys Migration to Pardus Linux and LibreOffice Explained 2 Months Ago in LibrePlanet | Techrights [15:55] matey that and a fuckload of marketing [15:55] *dyfet has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [15:55] matey and lobbying [15:55] matey and lying [15:55] activelow nowadays, with "micro"-soft label smeared onto whatever the bureaucratic apparatus in USA desired [15:56] TR News IBM posted this while sacking lots of workers (and Red Hat faces a mass exodus of its talent) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/most-wanted-soft-skills-it-pros [15:56] TR Bot Most-wanted soft skills for IT pros: CIOs share their recruiting tips | The Enterprisers Project [15:56] *dyfet (~dyfet@pool-108-11-0-57.atclnj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights [15:56] TR News This is the ICBM which FORCED even workers who are working from home "100% of the time" to get a jab https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/remote-work-5-tips-keep-your-teams-healthy-successful [15:56] TR Bot Remote work: 5 tips to keep your teams healthy and successful | The Enterprisers Project [15:57] TR News Former ICBM executive Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 Work Trend Index: How to Get Hybrid Right https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/05/making-hybrid-work-work.html Source: irvingwb [15:57] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 Work Trend Index: How to Get Hybrid Right [15:58] TR News Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/05/20/indonesian-libreoffice-community-recent-activities/ [15:58] TR Bot Indonesian LibreOffice community: recent activities - The Document Foundation Blog [15:58] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165067 [15:58] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines ● May 20 [16:00] activelow btw. with yaft i got back full unicode-font support on linux framebuffer console... without any of the x11/gnome/systemd clutter [16:00] activelow yaft is 300KiB including terminus font set [16:02] activelow which is noteworthy too, tech news regularly announce the typical corporate maga-mega-soft QT/GTK/systemd, ... [16:02] activelow meanwhile, the real goodies are hiding in a tiny niche, rarely ever mentioned by anyone [16:03] activelow dvtm, yaft ... it's "free software", MIT and ISC licensed [16:04] MinceR when DEC has a hand in X11, that makes X11 evil [16:04] TR News How to raise funding for your robotics venture | Chapter 2 - Akara | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-to-raise-funding-for-your-robotics-venture-chapter-2-akara Source: ubuntu [16:04] TR Bot to raise funding for your robotics venture | Chapter 2 Akara | Ubuntu [16:04] MinceR but when DEC has a hand in sixel, that's not a problem? [16:04] TR News MrDoc is a web-based document management system DMS https://medevel.com/mrdoc/ [16:05] psydroid2 DEC has had a dixel in the sixel all along [16:05] TR Bot MrDoc is a web-based document management system DMS [16:05] activelow good question... better ask why sixel support is mostly absent, which too is the answer to the question if it was good if corporate interests touch software [16:05] TR News 5g...5g. HYPE HYPE... https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/20/5g-redcap-limits-bandwidth-to-85mbps-industrial-iot/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/27/fact-based-5g-criticism/ [16:05] TR Bot 5G RedCap leverages 5G features, limits bandwidth to 85Mbps for industrial IoT applications - CNX Software [16:05] TR Bot What Real (Fact-Based) 5G and Privacy Issues the Media Casually Distracts From | Techrights [16:06] activelow MinceR: DEC and related bureaucratic mega-maga-soft monstrosities seeked to commercialize their "graphical workstations" [16:06] activelow hence X11, OpenVMS, win 3.1 [16:07] MinceR what does winblows 3.1 have to do with graphical workstations? [16:07] TR News Former IBM executive Irving Wladawsky-Berger is boosting a bunch of self-serving PR from Microsoft. To me, ICBM is not AGAINST Microsoft but WITH Microsoft. Same in Canonical. It is grotesque. Trump and Biden bail out Microsoft, the stolen money is then passed to corrupt other companies. [16:07] activelow MinceR: it followed the trend of "GUI" desktop... which wasn't "micro"-soft anymore [16:08] activelow MinceR: see for yourself the source-code of XTerm (which got sixels too), the quality left behind by DEC and the unix wars at that time [16:08] activelow it's a headache, 30 years later still [16:08] activelow #ifdef aix #elif ultrix #elif this and that.... [16:08] MinceR was there a graphical workstation that ran VMS, even? [16:09] MinceR xterm probably predates autoconfuse [16:10] *lex (~4c59a66c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] activelow historically, both *nix and cp/m type systems operated upon teletype-terminal interfaces [16:10] matey i still find some of what activelow is doing is inspiring [16:11] MinceR same [16:11] matey i mean it starts out great [16:11] matey and people should you know... consider some of it [16:11] matey a lot of what ive worked on over the past half year, was pushed along by what hes trying to do [16:11] matey credit where credit is due [16:12] matey and then you get to some of the details... [16:12] *lex has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:12] matey where some of the decisions are made [16:12] matey and its like [16:12] activelow later, both *nix with X11 and DOS/CP/M followed the "graphical workstation" idea... which is conceptually flawed, fundementally [16:12] matey like its being made up on the spot, then chiseled into stone tablets [16:12] matey oh this part is batshit-- FUCK IT, WELL DO IT LIVE! [16:13] matey play us out, keyboard cat [16:13] TR News LilyGO T-HC32 board with the worlds smallest Arm MCU (HC32L110B6) is now available for $9 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/20/lilygo-t-hc32-board-worlds-smallest-mcu-hc32l110b6/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [16:13] TR Bot LilyGO T-HC32 board with the world's smallest Arm MCU (HC32L110B6) is now available for $9 - CNX Software [16:13] activelow i will fully wipe X11/gtk/gnome/glib, instead dvtm+yaft+sixels+unicode implements what i really needed [16:14] TR News "Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 is pleased to host the linux/arch Microconference... The linux/arch microconference aims to bring architecture maintainers in one room to discuss how the code in arch/ can be improved, consolidated and generalized." https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/05/20/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-linux-arch/ [16:14] TR Bot Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: linux/arch Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 [16:15] MinceR i don't see the conceptual flaw [16:15] MinceR even c++ isn't inherent to graphical workstations [16:16] activelow teletype-terminals operated character-based, with 7bit ASCII [16:16] TR News Customize GNOME 42 with A Polished Look Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165068 [16:16] TR Bot Customize GNOME 42 with A Polished Look | Tux Machines [16:16] MinceR so? [16:17] activelow it is difficult to have both cleanly integrated, such as sixel output (pixel-buffer based) and character-based operation [16:18] activelow and one of the many conceptual flaws is, with "graphical workstations" the teletype-terminal interface integration isn't good [16:18] psydroid2 C++ is the programming language of the devil [16:18] activelow that's why, X11-forwarding, rdesktop, vnc and all this bloatware... to provide again what remote-shell/ssh already offered [16:18] psydroid2 it must be exorcised [16:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@949ia6fiigpbc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] matey it doesnt bother me that hes trying to make a c-only language [16:18] matey i can understand his frustration about that [16:19] matey c-only os, sorry [16:19] matey some of it i see as a very determined response to an understandably frustrating situation [16:19] matey and im all for that [16:19] matey thats what devuan was about before it became total bullshit [16:20] matey (assuming it was ever more than bullshit) [16:20] matey mincer still uses it sometimes, so it cant be COMPLETE shit [16:20] matey though i found it to be an incredible disappointment, after waiting a few years to see how it turned out [16:21] matey and by waiting a few years, i mean installing the pre alpha on my main development machine and then using (even creating) deriatives for literally years [16:22] matey and the pre-alpha version of devuan, made by jaromil, was better than any version that came later [16:22] activelow c-only with critical base-system components; and besides the issues with c++ itself and it's compilers, c++ components _always_ depend a mountain of bullshit [16:23] matey im still not sure exactly what took them so fucking long to get to whatever the fuck theyre trying to do [16:23] activelow it is only coincidence, a c-only profile removes most of this.... [16:23] activelow X11/GTK remained still, even without c++ and some hacks inside the build-system (harbfuzz crap) [16:24] matey i can understand it taking forever if they kept the lofty goals they started with [16:24] activelow then i realized, X11/GTK/Glib themselves must be removed [16:24] matey but ive never seen evidence of that [16:24] matey and as i said, i waited for years for the evidence [16:24] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:24] matey what i did see was LOADS of bullshit [16:24] activelow this was another surprise, many typical GNU/FSF components arrived on the bullshit hitlist for removal [16:24] matey devuan is trump, debian is hillary [16:25] matey something like that [16:25] matey im glad to be rid of them [16:25] matey i wont lie, for years i thought nothing would be better than what debian USED to be [16:25] activelow remember this, dvtm 47KiB, yaft 300KiB (including fonts)... with this i can compete against the entire realm of what X11/GNOME does [16:26] matey and youre still going to be hard-pressed to find anything quite as wonderful as debian in say, 2013 (when it peaked) [16:26] activelow not only compete, dvtm is the best terminal multiplexer ("window manager") i had seen in 25 years [16:26] matey wheezy was as good as gnu/linux will likely ever get [16:26] matey solid, modern, reliable, fun [16:27] matey devuan still isnt there [16:27] matey but since mincer still uses it, ill let him defend it [16:27] matey i wont agree, but i wont say hes crazy-- mincers been anti-systemd since 2011 if not earlier [16:28] matey i never saw it coming [16:28] matey it just showed up uninvited, and asked if there was anything to eat [16:28] matey i was like" who the hell are you?" [16:28] matey "im juggernaut, bitch!" [16:28] matey uh oh [16:28] activelow evdev/eudev/dbus ... all of this conceptually flawed, and removed... it was still possible to keep X11/Gtk, nonetheless, X11/GTK themselves are flawed [16:29] matey that was 7 or 8 years ago [16:29] matey seriously, what the fuck is devuan doing? [16:29] activelow recently, evdev creeped into Xorg... i slayed this, Xorg still works [16:29] schestowitz_TR2 I used Wheezy [16:29] matey no transparency, too much nepotism [16:30] matey too much bullshit [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 I now have one debian 11 machine, one debian 11 machine [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 rianne does too (10 and 11) [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 works OK [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 *10 and 11 [16:30] matey "works for me" is the open source marching song [16:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 my sister is pushed by colleagues to move from 10 to 11 [16:30] matey free software isnt about being helpless [16:30] matey systemd either works or it doesnt [16:30] bnchs my sister is pushed by colleagues to move from (windows) 10 to 11 [16:30] schestowitz_TR2 wheezy was as "free" as these new versions [16:30] MinceR 20 172720 < matey> but since mincer still uses it, ill let him defend it [16:31] bnchs still would be accurate [16:31] schestowitz_TR2 systemd reduced choice [16:31] MinceR outside my VPS, i only use devuan to provide a few packages for bedrock [16:31] schestowitz_TR2 wayland is not adopted [16:31] MinceR like qemu [16:31] MinceR since the newest qemu refuses to let me set a vnc password [16:31] schestowitz_TR2 noy in bookworm either, afaik [16:31] MinceR 20 171827 < psydroid2> C++ is the programming language of the devil [16:31] MinceR lol [16:32] schestowitz_TR2 c++ is relatively hgard [16:32] matey i wouldnt tell people "dont use qemu" per se [16:33] matey i couldnt have made a gnu/linux distro without it [16:33] MinceR i use qemu, just not from the void package [16:33] matey ive used it in the past year or two, i probably will again [16:33] schestowitz_TR2 matey: why vnc? [16:33] schestowitz_TR2 ssh -X is better [16:33] matey (i remastered void using qemu, then ran it for some time on a real machine) [16:33] schestowitz_TR2 and more efficient [16:33] schestowitz_TR2 safer by a mile [16:34] MinceR ssh -X is not really safe [16:34] matey i dont know what youre talking about [16:34] matey i was using qemu as an emulator [16:34] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:34] MinceR every client can send messages to every other client [16:34] matey whats that got to do with vnc? [16:34] matey https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ i find it troubling that qemu is on this list [16:34] TR Bot Current Projects - Software Freedom Conservancy [16:34] MinceR qemu can use vnc to provide access to the screen of the emulated/virtualized machine [16:34] matey regardless of how i "technically" shouldnt be bothered by it, yet i am anyway [16:35] schestowitz_TR2 maybe they wanted cybord lawyer thingie [16:35] matey ssh -x is also a fucking pain in the dick [16:35] schestowitz_TR2 _okaren0_ something [16:35] matey caring slander [16:35] matey she slanders because she cares [16:35] schestowitz_TR2 sshj -X is nice and tidy [16:35] schestowitz_TR2 integrates into your local workspace [16:36] matey matey: why vnc? <- did you mean someone else? [16:36] matey i dont use vnc [16:36] activelow well yeah, with sixel support and programs such as w3m -sixel, i can ssh onto any machine, and got graphics support [16:36] matey nor will ssh -x do what i used qemu for [16:36] TR News "2021s critical darling from Double Fine Productions, Psychonauts 2, is finally releasing on macOS and Linux in the very near future." https://www.nme.com/news/psychonauts-2-is-coming-to-macos-and-linux-next-week-3230415 [16:36] TR Bot 'Psychonauts 2' is coming to macOS and Linux next week [16:36] MinceR also, if you virtualize a non-unix-like system, ssh -X may not necessarily be an option [16:37] activelow too i got ffmpeg-sixels already, libsdl1-sixels... just in case.... [16:37] matey /me is pretty sure ssh -x will work between gnu/linux and openbsd, but why youd want to do that is another matter [16:37] matey id be happy if they werent compatible due to restrictions of some kind [16:37] activelow gnuplot, image converters from/into sixel...; unicode with yaft seems very good [16:37] TR News "Fedora 36 is out and it is packed with fantastic new features. We get the flashy new gnome 42 with its new GTK 4 apps and stunningly gorgeous dark mode." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0g1qWeS_lj0 [16:37] TR Bot Fedora 36 Released! And it is SERIOUS Competition to Ubuntu! (2022) - Invidious [16:37] matey but with the x11 protocol it should theoretically work at least [16:38] matey restrictions <- i mean basic security [16:38] activelow many other nice side-effects, since ssh suffices, wireguard/ipsec can be wiped from kernel and with it the entire bloated crypto-api of it [16:38] matey openssh of course, is from openbsd anyway [16:39] activelow too i will remove NFS support entirel... ssh should suffice [16:39] activelow i do not use openssh [16:39] TR News LOL! Sigstore... and more proprietary (Microsoft/NSA) crap https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252518401/Citi-donates-software-supply-chain-security-kit-to-OpenSSF [16:39] TR Bot Citi gives software supply chain security kit to OpenSSF [16:39] activelow i chose another implementation [16:39] MinceR ssh -X won't work with a Backdoors guest, for example [16:39] MinceR it also won't work with something that doesn't have sshd yet [16:39] matey :) [16:40] activelow ssh x11 forwarding is not teletype terminal operation... it only tunnels x11... that's a very important difference [16:40] matey i ran sshd in windows [16:40] MinceR i did too, once [16:40] matey didnt try ssh -x with it though (because its a pain in the dick) [16:40] MinceR it didn't work very well [16:40] matey oh it worked ok for me (but i didnt try -x) [16:41] matey my experience with x as a server is it never works very well [16:41] matey i mean a remote server. its always a server per se [16:41] matey maybe lan was too shitty at the time [16:41] matey thats a possibility [16:41] activelow xorg does work, however, it is conceptually flawed, and has a huge attack vector concerning secuirty [16:42] matey i mostly used qemu for trying (many many) distros [16:42] matey when i was making my own, id make a few changes and "boot" it with qemu [16:42] TR News CentOS Community Newsletter... but it is NOT a community, it is besieged by ICBM's strikes, and it's a shadow of its former self (many resigners) https://blog.centos.org/2022/05/centos-community-newsletter-may-2022/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=centos-community-newsletter-may-2022 [16:42] TR Bot Community Newsletter, May 2022 Blog.CentOS.org [16:42] matey when i was happy with the changes enough to justify the bother [16:42] matey id install the new one on a real machine [16:43] MinceR iirc vista stopped letting applications authenticate for user accounts, so ssh would no longer let me log in [16:43] matey sometimes by simply dd-ing it to the hard drive, since i was focused on making live usable [16:43] TR News ICBM does not want CentOS to succeed because it does not understand how the GPL works or simpler does not tolerate the GPL. Same as Microsoft [16:43] matey the installer was good too-- at least it was [16:43] matey it was made by the guy whos in charge of devuan live [16:44] matey but that installer is getting to be really... [16:44] matey id rather use the openbsd installer [16:44] matey at this point [16:44] TR News Every week xda publishes an article like this for different device/s, always promoting an ATTACK on GNU/Linux (Windows/Microsoft) as a first choice instead of REAL GNU/Linux https://www.xda-developers.com/does-hp-spectre-x36-2022-linux/ [16:44] TR Bot Does the HP Spectre x360 run Linux? Can you install it? [16:44] matey im not actually talking about the devaun installer btw [16:44] matey different one [16:44] MinceR refracta? [16:45] matey mmhmm [16:45] matey i loved refracta-installer [16:45] MinceR i don't think i used that [16:45] matey but lately its gotten a bit much [16:45] matey oh when i used it it was my favourite, honestly [16:45] matey recently i had someone install refracta and [16:45] matey well, we got it installed [16:46] matey but a few years ago id say #1 [16:46] matey now, id rather not use it [16:46] matey wouldnt even be surprised to find it on github-- havent checked though [16:47] psydroid2 xda-sellouts [16:48] TR News Rust project has been in disarray with many resignations; this is a face-saving update https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/05/19/governance-update.html [16:48] TR Bot Governance Update | Inside Rust Blog [16:48] matey xda-sellouts <- who? [16:48] psydroid2 <3 [16:48] psydroid2 microsoft [16:48] bnchs xda lol [16:48] bnchs xda is only good because all the android hackers are there [16:48] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@4ib67bpjevnsu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] TR News Eventually Rust will be managed by people who cannot even CODE, i.e. the usual. Empty vessel... [16:48] bnchs excluding it's horrible UI [16:48] bnchs and proprietary forums software (xenforo) [16:49] matey are the theme for xenforo called xenforoskin? [16:50] MinceR :> [16:50] matey and do you need a rabbi to use xenforo without one? [16:50] bnchs at least with xenforo you get to have your foreskin [16:50] matey "i dont like using themes" "oh boyo, this is going to hurt you more than it hurts me" [16:51] TR News Loaded title; it's not so fast-growing and there have been growing pains https://thenewstack.io/rust-whats-next-for-the-fast-growing-programming-language/ http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ [16:51] TR Bot Rust: Whats Next for the Fast-Growing Programming Language? The New Stack [16:51] TR Bot The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights [16:51] bnchs uninstalling theme will be like circumision [16:51] bnchs chop chop bitch [16:51] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/FFgoNPj.jpeg [16:51] bnchs THIS IS THE STATE OF MICROSOFT STORE https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/the-irc-chat/9PFNSNFDND7G?hl=en-us&gl=US [16:51] TR Bot Microsoft Apps [16:52] bnchs FEAST YOUR EYES ON THIS HORRIBLE .NET IRC CLIENT [16:52] TR News Rust "CEO: Rebecca Rumbul, formerly director of research and engagement at digital democracy charity mySociety, and before that the Privacy Collective." https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/19/rust_foundation_ceo/ [16:52] TR Bot Rebecca Rumbul named new CEO of The Rust Foundation The Register [16:52] MinceR lol [16:52] matey https://youtu.be/watch?v=MXsYnJ636Gg [16:52] TR Bot https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=MXsYnJ636Gg [16:52] TR Bot reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=MXsYnJ636Gg ) [16:53] bnchs microsoft store is full of low quality software holy shit [16:53] bnchs and sold at absolutely expensive prices [16:53] TR News Wouter Verhelst: Faster tar https://grep.be/blog//en/computer/play/Faster_tar/ [16:53] TR Bot Faster tar [16:53] TR News Videos/Shows: Fedora 36, The Untold Stories of Open Source, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165069 [16:54] TR Bot Videos/Shows: Fedora 36, The Untold Stories of Open Source, and More | Tux Machines [16:54] matey microsoft store is full of low quality software holy shit and sold at absolutely expensive prices <- well at least theyre predictable and consistent [16:54] matey especially after windows 8, im sure its a relief [16:55] bnchs they tried to turn windows into a mobile OS [16:55] bnchs OS designed like a mobile phone [16:55] bnchs and exactly got what they deserved [16:55] TR News Stefano Maffulli speaks of "open source movement", but it's NOT a movement, it's a corporate plot/ploy to crush the REAL movement, called Free software https://blog.opensource.org/exploring-the-future-of-open-source/ [16:55] TR Bot Exploring the future of Open Source Voices of Open Source [16:55] MinceR designed for mobile phones and tablets that have a mouse connected [16:55] MinceR considering that a major part of the UI design was the user's ability to throw the pointer into a given corner of the screen [16:55] bnchs low quality apps that probably have malware in them, or just free software sold at a price [16:55] bnchs centralized in a fucking store they say "secure" [16:57] TR News Stefano Maffulli knows his true masters; they're not Free software hackers who laid all the foundations, they're proprietary software companies looking to exploit and plunder those hackers while rewriting history. [16:57] matey considering that a major part of the UI design was the user's ability to throw the pointer into a given corner of the screen <- more often windows made me want to throw the mouse AT the screen [16:57] MinceR :> [16:58] bnchs more often windows made me want to throw punches at the screen [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 320.00 [16:59] TR News Carlo Piana is a very good addition to OSI. But they have too many Microsofters in there, still. Most of the OSI's budget goes to Microsoft. It's a compromised organisation. https://blog.opensource.org/welcome-new-directors/ [16:59] TR Bot Welcome new directors Voices of Open Source ● May 20 [17:00] psydroid2 bnchs, but can you compile the horrible .NET IRC client for Windows on ARM? [17:00] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/20 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/05/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-20/ [17:00] TR Bot openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/20 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) [17:01] TR News Using red herrings to replace standards with a pile of censorshipware controlled by Microsoft https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/openssf-linux-foundation-want-to-replace-c-c/2022/05/ [17:01] TR Bot Linux Foundation Want to Replace C, C++ - SDxCentral [17:02] TR News ...of course there's a missing disclosure there as many sites that push and enhance LF talking points (read: monopolies) in fact receive funding/bribes to do this [17:03] bnchs psydroid2, no [17:03] bnchs because it's proprietary [17:03] matey they dont mean any ARM [17:03] psydroid2 oh, that settles it then [17:03] psydroid2 only special kinds of ARMs [17:03] psydroid2 like Snapdragons [17:04] TR News Corrupt media: pay us to write about you, lie for you... https://corporate.sdxcentral.com/products/content/ [17:04] TR Bot Content - SDxCentral Corporate [17:04] psydroid2 no Unicorns and Lions allowed [17:04] TR News WWW = spam disguised as 'articles' https://corporate.sdxcentral.com/products/advertising/ [17:04] TR Bot Advertising - SDxCentral Corporate [17:05] TR News This is where LF money goes: NOT Linux but bribing the media. They're hardly even hiding it. https://corporate.sdxcentral.com/products/demand-generation/ [17:05] TR Bot Demand Generation - SDxCentral Corporate [17:05] TR News "Linux" has become just a meaningless label like "dolphin safe" http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [17:05] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [17:05] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=veI8BMDewmU [17:05] TR Bot Penguin shits on other Penguin - Invidious [17:06] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DIw85xM7lLs [17:06] TR Bot You Can See Penguin Poop From Space - Invidious [17:06] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C33pmG_fkYo [17:06] TR Bot Penguin Accidentally Poops On Friend - Invidious [17:06] matey "this means something... this is important" [17:06] bnchs matey: why are you searching for penguin shit [17:06] bnchs absolutely horrifying [17:07] matey yes, and its only going to get worse [17:07] matey with the kernel i mean, not the videos [17:07] matey but the "poops on his friend" one i thought was especially appropos [17:07] TR News EteSync is an encrypted E2E sync and backup tools for your data https://medevel.com/etesync/ "The Etebase server is released under the AGPL-3.0 License." [17:07] TR Bot EteSync is an encrypted E2E sync and backup tools for your data [17:08] matey i havent even watched those yet, but i will, as im morbidly curious now [17:08] TR News "updating Fedora on my partners laptop. This particular laptop was lacking a Wifi driver but that is now solved in Fedora 36. I can provide yet another datapoint that the GNOME 42 screenshot experience creates joy and happiness." https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2022/05/20/status-update-19-05-2022/ [17:08] TR Bot Status update, 19/05/2022 Sam Thursfield [17:08] matey i watched the rabbi one (just now, also in the theatre nearly 30 years ago) [17:10] TR News "Its insane to me how many jobs in america are either completely pointless or actively harmful." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [17:10] bnchs it's only gonna get worse [17:10] bnchs next time you'll be searching for.... [17:10] bnchs uhh whats more worse than penguin shit [17:11] TR News "Hacker" "Noise" = corporate beehive. "Instead of simply commenting on Hacker News like I did in previous similar posts, I thought Id write a little blog post I could link there and in future discussions." https://andregarzia.com/2022/01/gemini-is-a-little-gem.html [17:11] TR Bot Is A Little Gem AndreGarzia.com [17:12] TR News Rust does not solve security problems http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ [17:12] matey bryan lunduke? [17:12] TR Bot The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights [17:12] matey you had to ask [17:13] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@93mm99ccce782.irc) has joined #techrights [17:13] TR News "hacker" "news" values actual hackers like "Truth Social" values truth... [17:14] matey /me will take linux audio and penguin shit over that smirk any day [17:14] matey the "linux sucks" thing never bothered me [17:14] matey i mean it was fair play [17:14] matey everything else though... [17:15] matey if he keeps making that face it could get stuck that way [17:16] TR News Twitter the company down 52 dollars to 37, but judging by what Microsoft and Icahn did to Yahoo! (or Elop at Nokia) I expect it to be at 20 dollars soon. Twitter as a company is worthless; it's mostly making losses in the process of advancing ruinous agenda for frauds and narcissists like Musk. [17:17] TR News Facebook is down from almost $400 to under $200. Oh, sorry, META! They rename themselves to pretend to be something they're not. [17:18] TR News "The Hacker News" now amplifies Microsoft FUD against "Linux". See? Microsoft HATES Linux. But Zemlin LOVES Microsoft. http://techrights.org/2021/12/19/slovenia-and-epo-leadership/ [17:18] TR Bot Slovenia Needs More Courageous Leadership (Like Vesna Stankovi Jurii), Not Puppets of the Patent and Copyright Cartels | Techrights [17:18] TR News Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 213 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-213-released/ [17:18] TR Bot diffoscope 213 released [17:19] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mt0YEJ3R_Ak [17:19] TR Bot How to install Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 - Invidious [17:23] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165070 [17:23] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:23] TR News Security: Patches, Snake Oil, and Reproducible Builds/Diffoscope Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165071 [17:23] TR Bot Security: Patches, Snake Oil, and Reproducible Builds/Diffoscope | Tux Machines [17:24] TR News Fedora / CentOS / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165072 [17:24] TR Bot Fedora / CentOS / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:25] TR News Mozilla is promoting Google proprietary software (and spyware) in the Firefox blog; Google is funded this https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/xyla-foxlin-youtube-engineering/ [17:25] TR Bot Firefox Presents: A YouTube creator blending femininity and engineering [17:26] TR News Yesterday I posted a hasty roundup of whats been going on with zink. It was not comprehensive. What else have I been working on, you might ask." https://www.supergoodcode.com/depth/ [17:26] TR Bot Depth Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code. [17:27] TR News "Students should not have to use proprietary software to participate in the educational process. The FSFE joins the Dutch coalition Fair Digital Education supporting privacy-respecting solutions involving Free Software in schools." https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220520-01.en.html [17:27] TR Bot FSFE signs Dutch manifesto calling for education improvements - FSFE [17:28] TR News Microsoft is NOT "concern-trolling" Linux. It is ATTACKING Linux. If you're not seeing it, maybe Microsoft-funded 'media' has brainwashed you. SO CONGRATS. [17:34] *belak_ has quit (Quit: belak_) [17:37] TR News Where Mozilla (Google) money is wasted: spamming ads and endorsements for Google's YouTube instead of Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/xyla-foxlin-youtube-engineering/ [17:37] TR News Top 15 Best Download Managers for Linux in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165073 [17:37] TR Bot Top 15 Best Download Managers for Linux in 2022 | Tux Machines [17:37] TR News LibreOffice and Free/Libre Software in Education Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165074 [17:37] TR Bot LibreOffice and Free/Libre Software in Education | Tux Machines [17:38] *lbft (~lbft@2a02:6ea0:dc05::a15d) has joined #techrights [17:43] XRevan86 matey: https://youtu.be/jG2KMkQLZmI [17:43] TR Bot https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=jG2KMkQLZmI [17:44] TR Bot tube.cthd.icu | Your Music's Bad and You Should Feel Bad! - Invidious [17:44] XRevan86 That's my response. [17:46] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/20/7347451/ [17:46] TR Bot The aggressor has spent a rocket to destroy a toilet on the beach in Odesa region - City Council | Ukrayinska Pravda [17:46] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/20/7347467/ [17:46] TR Bot Kharkiv region: Russians bomb a cultural centre in Lozova: 7 wounded, including a child | Ukrayinska Pravda [17:47] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) ● May 20 [18:00] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [18:01] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@wsiqic47hk5gc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:15] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@dmw5b4ab5hxvs.irc) has joined #techrights [18:16] *dyfet has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [18:16] matey matey: [18:16] matey lol [18:16] matey i feel bad! [18:17] matey i feel delicate... and oogly! [18:17] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:18] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3EUgbL_x5GM [18:18] TR Bot Aunt Irma The IT Crowd - Series 1 - Episode 6: Hormonal - Invidious [18:18] *superkuh has quit (Quit: failing hard drive replacement.) [18:19] matey "i didnt know smarties even made cereal" [18:19] matey "they dont, its just smarties in the bowl, with milk" [18:20] matey you cant get (chocolate) smarties in the states (usually) because theres a mediocre tart candy with the same name [18:20] matey but that doesnt explain why dove (galaxy) doesnt make minstrels (if theyre not called galaxy its not like the name is the issue) [18:21] matey minstrels are better than smarties [18:21] matey galaxy is awesome and cadbury has (cheap genentically modified) plums in its mouth [18:22] matey thats when the genes become gentrified from inbreeding in rich families-- genentic modification [18:22] matey gentrific mos (stateside gm*ms) [18:23] matey i know i shouldnt have bought this keyboard from someone in the street [18:23] matey "i-ogitech?" [18:23] XRevan86 matey: I expect those Smarties to make quite a mess in the milk bowl. [18:23] matey "yeah, top of the line" [18:23] matey theyre covered in chocolate [18:23] XRevan86 They're like M&M's, right? [18:23] matey the problem is, they taste more like theyre coated with vinyl flooring [18:24] matey large-size m&ms [18:24] matey funnily enough, m&ms are made by m&m mars and mars bars are huge in the uk [18:24] MinceR i thought they were coated in sugar [18:24] matey the closest thing you can get in the states is 3 musketeers (not the same! not at all) [18:24] MinceR like m&ms [18:24] matey sugar, candy [18:24] matey theres a fine line (its not a powder, so a very fine line) [18:24] MinceR i thought mars bars were called "milky way" in the usa [18:24] MinceR (not the same as european milky way) [18:25] XRevan86 matey: There are several sizes of Mars bars that are (for now?) sold in Russia. [18:25] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:25] matey mars bars have the same chocolate filling all the way through [18:25] matey thats more like a 3 musketeers [18:25] matey while a milky way (in the states) has that plus caramel inside [18:25] matey which is lovely-- its just not the closest thing to a mars bar [18:25] XRevan86 > the US Milky Way bar, which is sold as the Mars bar worldwide, including Canada; and the global Milky Way bar, which is sold as the 3 Musketeers in the US and Canada. (In Canada neither bar is sold as the Milky Way.) [18:26] XRevan86 That's not confusing at all. [18:26] matey its a bit confusing, because the milky way in the states has caramel [18:26] matey and the mars bar (which you can get imported pretty easily, the real ones) doesnt [18:26] XRevan86 matey: Mars that I know has caramel. [18:26] matey the one i had in the uk i swear didnt [18:27] matey it looked pretty standard and this is news to me [18:27] matey in fact the imported ones didnt either [18:27] matey but ive never had one in russia, so its not like i think youre making it up [18:27] XRevan86 https://www.barista-ltd.ru/components/com_jshopping/files/img_products/chocobar_Mars_50g.jpg [18:28] XRevan86 https://shokolad.today/wp-content/cache/thumb/c1bb5f305_660x300.jpg [18:28] XRevan86 That's the one. [18:29] matey you win, its been too long since ive eaten one [18:29] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:29] matey (i swear mine didnt have that) [18:29] matey either way, look how thick the chocolate shell is [18:29] matey THATS a chocolate bar [18:30] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:30] matey if you want a chocolate shell that thick in the states youll have to wait for easter, get it imported, or make it yourself [18:30] XRevan86 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0275/8934/5379/products/mars_bar_logo_1024x.jpg looks identical to me [18:30] matey thats why mars bars are best [18:30] matey yeah i guess they have caramel [18:30] matey though again-- i swear mine didnt [18:30] matey maybe i dreamt it [18:31] matey this was more than a decade and a half ago [18:31] matey either way, minstrels are still better then smarties [18:31] matey i was very excited about trying both [18:31] matey i still like minstrels [18:31] matey also m&ms arent good anymore [18:31] matey minstrels taste like chocolate [18:32] matey m&ms taste like smarties that have gone off [18:32] matey and smarties taste like minstrels that were left in a gym locker [18:32] matey or they taste like nothing at all [18:32] matey i like the idea of large m&ms though [18:33] matey i think m&ms were invented by americans [18:33] matey either way, two soldiers [18:33] matey new jersey [18:33] XRevan86 > Forrest Mars, Sr., son of the Mars Company founder, Frank C. Mars, copied the idea for the candy in the 1930s during the Spanish Civil War when he saw soldiers eating British-made Smarties [18:34] matey incidentally, new jersey is also the state listed on 3 musketeers [18:34] matey oh, theyre counterfeit smarties! [18:34] matey i love it [18:34] matey copied the idea [18:34] matey didnt know that part of the story [18:35] matey hooray for wikipedia [18:41] matey what i didnt know is that murrie was the son of the person running hersheys [18:41] matey and mars was the son of the person running mars [18:41] matey first murrie bought out mars for $1 million [18:41] matey then mars bought out murrie again [18:42] matey which should have created a chocolate peanut butter paradox [18:42] matey fortunately the universe isnt made of those [18:42] matey (its mostly bullshit) [18:43] matey /me wonders if thats the episode where fry gets buff and learns how to play that holographic saxophone [18:44] matey after eating a sandwich from a vending machine [18:45] TR News Or just do not use AWS at all. It's an expensive trap. https://www.howtoforge.com/what-is-aws-guarduty-and-how-to-use-it/ [18:45] TR Bot What is AWS GuarDuty and how to use it [18:45] matey the egg salad works faster than ex lax and tastes better [18:45] matey plus im not sure if its bacteria or the preservatives which really have the effect [18:46] matey but based on the reliability and the fact that it isnt longer lasting, im guessing its the preservatives [18:46] TR News Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 115 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/05/20/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-115/ Many of us are still nostalgic about it, but Mozilla's leadership is not [18:46] TR Bot These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 115 Firefox Nightly News [18:47] matey i still cant play the saxophone [18:47] TR News Seems like veiled marketing, not organic YouTube "material" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VXEL2Nn1sp4 [18:47] TR Bot DBcare - How TuxCare aims to Eliminate Database Server Reboots - Invidious [18:48] matey maybe its the olive loaf that does that, but until i own a sax im not going to try to find out [18:48] matey /me still doesnt know how they cut the olives to the exact width of the bologna, or who puts them in with such precision [18:49] matey maybe laser cutters [18:49] matey if you freeze the olives maybe they dont singe [18:49] TR News Kapow 1.6.0 released https://gottcode.org/kapow/ Switched to Qt 6 [18:49] TR Bot Kapow [18:50] TR News Outsourcing one's readership to a volatile third party seems like short-sighted and risky a move from a site almost 30 years old https://lwn.net/Articles/895898/ [18:50] TR Bot is now on Mastodon [LWN.net] [18:52] matey industrial lunch and meat [18:52] TR News Kubuntu General News: Plasma 5.25 Beta available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165021#comment-33743 [18:52] TR Bot KDE Plasma 5.25 Beta Is Here with Floating Panels, New Customization Options, and More | Tux Machines [18:52] matey famous hollywood caterers [18:52] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/20/7347501/ [18:52] TR Bot Russians clear rubble and remove bodies from Mariupol Drama Theatre - adviser to the mayor | Ukrayinska Pravda [18:52] matey originally they did special effects, now they do special sauce ● May 20 [19:05] *zleap has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:05] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [19:06] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:07] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:07] TR News LWN has outsourced to a site with these rather ludicrous rules, which bans even debating the moderators' actions! There's even worse in there! https://fosstodon.org/about/more [19:07] TR Bot - Fosstodon [19:15] TR News "There's a handful of popular package managers that are used on various Linux distributions, and dnf is among the most popular. 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[19:27] MinceR who knows? [19:27] MinceR neither the uk nor russia are eu members :> [19:29] XRevan86 Nor have a Finno-Ugric state language. [19:29] MinceR :> [19:38] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165078 [19:38] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:39] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165079 [19:39] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@v4ert6vrmdahg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:40] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [19:41] TR News Links 20/05/2022: Plasmas Latest Beta in Kubuntu 22.04, Kapow 1.6.0 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/kapow-1-6-0-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/20/kapow-1-6-0-released/ [19:41] TR Bot Links 20/05/2022: Plasmas Latest Beta in Kubuntu 22.04, Kapow 1.6.0 Released | Techrights [19:42] TR News In many of today's CoC happiness is not an option. It's mandatory. Dissent is seen as worse than the actual crimes that the dissent is against. [19:42] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2e2c9k5uam4rg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:50] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights ● May 20 [20:01] *bnchs (~bnchs@6f8g25fnkjj7a.irc) has joined #techrights [20:05] psydruid > LWN has outsourced to a site with these rather ludicrous rules, which bans even debating the moderators' actions! There's even worse in there! https://fosstodon.org/about/more [20:05] psydruid Show me your CoC! [20:06] bnchs https://yewtu.be/watch?v=d12aGhsjBlo [20:06] TR Bot Please Stop Using Windows... - Invidious [20:06] bnchs lol mutahar recommends GNU/Linux now [20:06] bnchs that's like.... uhhh one relevant gulagtuber [20:08] psydruid It's as if there's some rule that if they advise people to stop using Windows all hell will break loose and their internet daddy will disown them [20:09] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:10] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-20.gmi [20:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 3.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 338.46 [20:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm still submitting documents to Capital One. [20:18] DaemonFC But there's an Illinois Legal Aid website that helps you compile a small claims lawsuit. [20:18] DaemonFC I wonder if I should. It would probably pass a civil standard of guilt in the pro se court. [20:18] DaemonFC But it would drain my time. [20:19] DaemonFC He's probably just fail to appear since the courts are not open on weekends and his store hours in another city cover the entire time the court could schedule a hearing. [20:28] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [20:29] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [20:35] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] MinceR "Show him your junk! ...warrior." 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Then, I made a small Python script to filter the data and plot it." gemini://gemini.bobignou.red/posts/G-forces-at-Disneyland-Paris.gmi [20:49] TR News NetHack over Gemini Proof-of-Concept gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/gemhack.gmi [20:50] TR News Creating a NixOS thin gaming client live USB gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-thin-gaming-client.gmi [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 352.28 [20:59] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22051252 [20:59] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/on4lyl2qaoy81.jpg created on 2022-05-12 14:29:05.583570 ● May 20 [21:03] *kiki has quit (connection closed) [21:10] TR News When it comes to Linux, Michael see only his sponsors (x86) in it https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.18-Nears-Release [21:10] TR Bot 5.18 Preparing For Release - Especially Heavy With Many Intel & AMD Changes - Phoronix [21:10] *bnchs (~bnchs@czi7hmjkbc4n8.irc) has joined #techrights [21:12] TR News FreeBSD 13.1 is out for everything from PowerPC to x86-64 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164926#comment-33744 [21:12] TR Bot FreeBSD 13.1 Released | Tux Machines [21:13] TR News Monkeypox Fears May Rescue Endangered Corporations https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/investigative-reports/monkeypox-fears-may-rescue-endangered-corporations/ [21:13] TR Bot MonkeypoxFearsMay RescueEndangeredCorporations [21:15] activelow 1/13 [21:15] TR News How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens | The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens Source: newyorker [21:15] TR Bot How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens | The New Yorker [21:16] TR News The rise of high-tech despotism - The Record by Recorded Future https://therecord.media/the-rise-of-high-tech-despotism/ Source: therecord [21:16] TR Bot The rise of high-tech despotism - The Record by Recorded Future [21:16] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165080 [21:16] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:16] activelow "Please Stop Using Windows" -> no x11, no wayland, none of this then [21:17] activelow OpenVMS was a DEC offspring just as X11 was [21:17] TR News Satire: Google Maps Adds Shortcuts Through Houses Of People Google Knows Arent Home Right Now https://www.theonion.com/google-maps-adds-shortcuts-through-houses-of-people-goo-1848861825 Source: theonion [21:17] TR Bot Google Maps Adds Shortcuts Through Houses Of People Google Knows Arent Home Right Now [21:17] activelow OpenVMS -> WindowsNT -> Vista [21:18] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@yhd9kjinz89e2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:19] activelow meanwhile, hacking some non-evdev mouse support into yaft ... [21:19] TR News Cautioning people not to download random junk and then execute it; not a problem in the OS per se https://blog.sonatype.com/new-pymafka-malicious-package-drops-cobalt-strike-on-macos-windows-linux [21:19] TR Bot New 'pymafka' malicious package drops Cobalt Strike on macOS, Windows, Linux [21:21] activelow i would have accepted evdev for mouse events, i do not for keyboard events [21:22] activelow the presence of evdev for keyboard events is another indicator for the conceptual flaws of non-tty pixel-buffer based window managers [21:22] TR News Okteta making a small step to Qt6 | Attracted by virtual constructs https://frinring.wordpress.com/2022/05/20/okteta-making-a-small-step-to-qt6/ Source: frinring [21:22] TR Bot Okteta making a small step to Qt6 | Attracted by virtual constructs [21:23] TR News "Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from May 13 to May 20." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/05/twig-44/ [21:23] TR Bot #44 Five Across This Week in GNOME [21:23] TR News Public Submissions to U.S. Government Reveal Corporate Wishlist for IPEF: More Power at Our Expense https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2022/05/public-submissions-to-us-government-reveal-corporate-wishlist-for-ipef-more-power-at-our-expense.html organised plunder [21:23] TR Bot Eyes on Trade: Public Submissions to U.S. Government Reveal Corporate Wishlist for IPEF: More Power at Our Expense [21:24] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:24] TR News "That billionaire, corporate raider Ron Perelman, has deep and controversial ties to the Clinton family and the Democratic party as well as troubling ties to Jeffery Epstein." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/investigative-reports/monkeypox-fears-may-rescue-endangered-corporations/ [21:30] IPFS Planet Gemini updated. 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He was also in the middle of a divorce that wasn't finalized, so he left his wife with many financial issues that did not seem easy to deal with." gemini://rooster.smol.pub/tj2 [22:15] TR News Portable music memories gemini://sev.smol.pub/1653054239 [22:16] TR News UK 2022 and Germany 1933 gemini://midnight.pub/posts/958 [22:16] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22051226 [22:16] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ozsh596lpfy81.jpg created on 2022-05-12 08:27:48.850077 [22:16] TR News Gemini: bringing the sense of wonder to the Internet again gemini://willowashmaple.smol.pub/2022-05-19-sense-of-wonder-again [22:17] TR News A Call for a Gemini Without TLS gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-02-13.notls.gmi [22:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@b2jyrtq6x8up8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:18] TR News "It is almost certain that widely-accepted and used cryptography is compromised and is not a threat to governments (otherwise we would see a serious push for other technologies which include backdoors). 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[22:39] *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@f59zjhyxi6kq8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:39] TR News 10 of the Best Graphic Design Software for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165082 [22:39] TR Bot 10 of the Best Graphic Design Software for Linux | Tux Machines [22:39] TR News The 5 best Application Launchers for Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165083 [22:39] TR Bot The 5 best Application Launchers for Ubuntu | Tux Machines [22:40] DaemonFC schestowitz, I quoted Jamie Zawinski's response to a deposition in my credit card dispute, in part. [22:40] TR News GNOME and KDE: This Week in GNOME, Qt6 and KF6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165084 [22:40] TR Bot GNOME and KDE: This Week in GNOME, Qt6 and KF6 | Tux Machines [22:40] DaemonFC I accused Batteries Plus Bulbs and Chouhan of using the telephone to "harass, threaten, intimidate, inconvenience, and annoy" me. [22:41] activelow nice, got sixel-passthrough now, yaft+dvtm and w3m browser, not perfect yet, nonetheless, rather useful, for an admittedly tiny niche of develoeprs [22:42] DaemonFC And said that he was committing the offense of "Disorderly Conduct" by way of misusing the telephone system. [22:43] DaemonFC Not that the police would do anything. [22:43] DaemonFC "WHY U NO FILE POLICE REPORT!" [22:43] DaemonFC Also the police if you try to file a report: "What do you want us to do about it?". [22:44] DaemonFC I've learned it's best to just leave the police out of it. I mean, you want to know what the police are like, look at the mass shooting in Buffalo. [22:44] DaemonFC A store clerk called 911 while people were being mowed down by a domestic terrorist with an assault rifle. [22:45] DaemonFC The 911 operator yelled at her for whispering so that the guy didn't hear her and come shoot her as well, and then 911 hung up on her. [22:45] DaemonFC Then she had to call her boyfriend and explain that people were being murdered and to try to call 911 in another county so they could get the police in her county to show up to the store. [22:46] DaemonFC Just in time for the guy to run out of bullets, you know. [22:50] *norad (~2d3dbaa9@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:51] schestowitz_TR2 hi norad [22:54] TR News Bing censors search for Xi Jinping, Citizen Lab report finds http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165024#comment-33745 [22:54] TR Bot Bada Bing, Bada Boom: Microsoft Bings Chinese Political Censorship of Autosuggestions in North America | Tux Machines [22:54] norad why are you hing me? [22:56] schestowitz_TR2 "hing"? [22:56] schestowitz_TR2 hi'ing? [22:56] schestowitz_TR2 because I thought you were new here [22:56] schestowitz_TR2 being polite [22:56] norad is that an emoji? [22:57] norad i'i [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 we rarely use emojis [22:57] schestowitz_TR2 many irc clients don't support those [22:57] norad so sad [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 22.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 385.06 [22:59] norad :> ● May 20 [23:00] norad what client doesnt support that? [23:07] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/20/banking-is-a-competitive-but-they-try-to-stay-out-of-each-others-way-why-i-like-credit-cards-and-hate-annual-fees/ [23:07] TR Bot Banking is a competitive, but they try to stay out of each others way. Why I like credit cards and hate annual fees. BaronHK's Rants [23:07] schestowitz_TR2 old CPI ones for sure [23:08] schestowitz_TR2 CLI [23:09] DaemonFC "And when you throw multiple cards with annual fees together, eventually you wont even have a good idea how much you really net in rewards points." [23:09] DaemonFC None of my cards has an annual fee. That's non-negotiable. [23:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:10] DaemonFC I considered one of those AmEx Blue Cash preferred cards when I had excellent credit. [23:10] DaemonFC Then I calculated that even if I did earn 6% on groceries full time, the $95 annual fee still wouldn't have been worth it vs. a grocery card with 3% that I already had. [23:11] DaemonFC Because I already had a 5% card to use at Walmart, which sells groceries, and doesn't code as a grocery store, so would only return 1% on the AmEx. [23:12] DaemonFC The AmEx is only worth it for large families who spend a ton of money at an actual coded grocery store. And yes, Aldi and Sav-a-Lot even code as grocery stores. [23:12] DaemonFC So the 6% on the AmEx will work on discount groceries. [23:12] *techrights_guest|15 (~18081345@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:13] DaemonFC It's a lot of trial and error to figure out what things even code as sometimes, but all the grocery cards say "Walmart, Target, and other Big Box stores do not count as a grocery store and will not earn bonus points.". [23:13] schestowitz_TR2 you give them your ID [23:13] schestowitz_TR2 and your shopping list [23:13] DaemonFC Because they get so many complaints otherwise. [23:16] *techrights_guest|15 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [23:18] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Which they have anyway if you use a debit card or shop online. [23:19] DaemonFC If you write them a check, they know what you bought and whose name is on the account. [23:24] psydroid2 mutahar went out of sync in his video for me at least [23:30] DaemonFC "The danger with a Secured Card is that if you default, the bank can take your deposit, report the entire balance to the credit bureaus anyway, and then sue you for the entire amount on top of keeping your deposit, so the risk is yours, and its guaranteed money for the bank. This is why most Secured Cards approve everyone. But it still looks like a tradeline, just as any other credit card would." [23:33] DaemonFC You're not asking the bank to risk their money, you're asking them to let you risk your own money, a few times over, with the security deposit guaranteed to cover any actual loss you cause. [23:33] DaemonFC So of course they issue you a "credit card". [23:33] DaemonFC But as bad a deal as that is, there's worse. [23:34] DaemonFC There's "credit builder loans" where you deposit money, and they freeze it and then it looks like a loan you make, with interest payments, and then they give you the original amount of the deposit back. [23:34] DaemonFC This is how badly people need credit to function in this country, and it's not at all clear that credit builder loans actually help much. [23:35] DaemonFC You still have a bankruptcy on file, and all the lenders know what that loan is, even if it is reporting on your credit file. [23:35] DaemonFC In the mean time, you have thousands of dollars tied up and may get into actual trouble again with real bills. [23:36] DaemonFC My bankruptcy attorney tried to refer me to some of those when I got my discharge letter. I told her I was aware of them and I felt they were exploitative and dangerous, and had a plan to rebuild my credit at no expense. [23:38] TR News Centralised or federated censorship/filtering platforms (also known as social [control] media [sic]) arent the way forward; were therefore a little surprised that Linux Weekly News (LWN) bothers with that languishing bandwagon all of a sudden http://techrights.org/2022/05/20/lwn-outsourcing/ [23:38] TR Bot Outsourcing Sites to Social Control Media is an Outdated Mindset in 2022 | Techrights [23:43] TR News Mysterious firm seeks to buy majority stake in Arm China - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/20/mysterious_arm_china/ Source: theregister [23:43] TR Bot Mysterious firm seeks to buy majority stake in Arm China The Register [23:45] TR News HP finally offering PROPER GNU/Linux... and on ARM instead of x86 https://hpdevone.com/ [23:45] TR Bot HP Dev One | Home Page [23:46] schestowitz_TR2 psydroid2: ^ [23:46] psydroid2 where did that come from? [23:47] psydroid2 oh, it's AMD apparently and not ARM [23:47] psydroid2 unless I'm misreading something [23:48] psydroid2 screw AMD [23:48] psydroid2 and HP [23:48] TR News The 10 Best Linux Apps for Musicians Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165085 [23:48] TR Bot The 10 Best Linux Apps for Musicians | Tux Machines [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 oh, yes :-( AMD [23:50] psydroid2 HP probably trying to prop up sales after a disastrous quarter [23:50] TR News How to migrate from Blogger to WordPress https://unixcop.com/migrate-from-blogger-to-wordpress/ getting away from Gulag [23:50] TR Bot Migrate from blogger to wordpress - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [23:54] TR News "When I write the word imagineering, what does it mean to you? Does it make you think of a certain company or concept? 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