●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 ●● ● Jul 20 [00:00] DaemonFC Imaginaaaaaaaaaation! [00:00] DaemonFC Also known as the Democrat plan for supercharging stations. [00:00] DaemonFC mjg59_ probably has something profound to say now. [00:01] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:01] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:02] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Added: "So how do you charge the stupid things? IMAGINAAAAAAATION! Which is the Biden Administration's plan for fast charging infrastructure. They've been in office two years and the only one I know of in my COUNTY is over by a Target store three cities away. And I'm a county over from Chicago!" [00:03] earthling IFO Munich presented some data already, electric charging infrastructure isn't feasible [00:03] earthling even if we burned the last tree in germany to produce electricity, charging time is too slow [00:03] DaemonFC The truth is gasoline cars are going to be around for a very long time to come. [00:04] earthling entire germany would be totally jammed by electric vehicles waiting at the charging station [00:04] DaemonFC California is writing another suicide letter. [00:04] DaemonFC Unless Trump gets back in and rips up their ability to ban ICEs and saves them from themselves. [00:04] DaemonFC Because they're clearly too stupid to run a state and set energy policy. [00:04] earthling if at all, it is a Trolley Bus type system which could enable electric vehicles [00:05] DaemonFC Those are directly connected to the grid and carry a lot of people. [00:05] DaemonFC They don't need a battery and they're very efficient. [00:05] DaemonFC You get into an EV and most of the time you're still just driving your car with only one or two people in it. [00:05] earthling a backup battery would be usefull with those... for easier re-routing [00:05] DaemonFC And then you have this stupid battery to deal with. [00:06] DaemonFC Like a laptop. Every 5 years it becomes too wimpy to work anymore only....uh oh. Ford doesn't make new ones. [00:08] phanes it'll be hard to save california energy policy from the presidential gallow [00:09] MinceR a drastic reduction of global human population would help with the EV charging infrastructure [00:09] MinceR and the sustainability of everything else, too [00:09] phanes not without the georgia guidestones LOL [00:09] earthling it is called "eco fascism" [00:09] DaemonFC Still working on the article. [00:10] TR News UK breaks record for highest temperature as Europe sizzles https://apnews.com/article/wildfires-france-fires-london-england-b9bc07c1685b76ddf377b65f19fb811b [00:10] TR Bot UK breaks record for highest temperature as Europe sizzles | AP News [00:10] MinceR lol @ stones [00:10] earthling and we got those type in german goverment here, mostly "atlantic bridge" minion criminals, who follow the propaganda crap from RAND Corp/Pentagon/wherever [00:11] earthling and yes, i got a political opinion, about them [00:11] phanes all joking aside thats a bad solution. humanity wont evolve if we do population control. we have to establish sustainable equilibrium with our environment or we're just postponing our extinction with population control, which is hysterically evil. the pressure needs to come from being elbow to elbow, wall to wall, floor to ceiling in every building before we start making cultural shifts to find that [00:11] earthling although, the facts, speak for themselves [00:11] phanes balance [00:11] MinceR humanity won't evolve anyway [00:11] phanes sure it will. humans are resilient. [00:12] MinceR and we're far past demolishing sustainable equilibrium with our environment [00:12] MinceR as for elbow to elbow -- big cities are already making people go crazy with the population density [00:12] phanes if you put environmental pressure on any human population they adapt in every way -- culture, physical, genetic [00:12] MinceR no, they won't [00:13] MinceR they're already denying every single problem humanity is facing [00:13] TR News UK heatwave LIVE updates as Metrolink lines suspended and Avanti cancels all trains https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/uk-heatwave-live-weather-updates-24525873 Source: manchestereveningnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/uk-heatwave-live-weather-updates-24525873 [00:13] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/uk-heatwave-live-weather-updates-24525873 ) [00:13] phanes if all the animals die they develop a largely vegetarian lifestyle [00:13] TR News Gag orders or something akin to NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) are the latest attack on free speech at the EPO; to make matters worse, this is designed to make corruption and crime in the management ranks impermissible to speak about (they make it a taboo or a crime to talk about crime) http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-non-disclosure-agreements/ [00:13] TR Bot When Criminals Make It a Crime to Speak About Their Crimes | Techrights [00:13] phanes if its dry they develop water retention methods and bodies that are good at that [00:13] TR News The EPOs ban on sharing of "general" information (even between staff representatives and people who elect them) is a sign of the urgency to take action http://techrights.org/2022/07/19/epo-quiets-down-reps/ [00:13] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Ignorance is Bliss | Techrights [00:14] MinceR if humans give up on science and technology (which they are doing already), nothing will save life on Earth from being killed off as the Sun goes red giant [00:14] phanes let them be elbow to elbow and floor to ceiling, and then your population problem fixes itself for good [00:14] earthling the next best "renewable" energy scam: "bio fuels", produced from maize and plant oil [00:14] MinceR approximately 1 billion years from now, there won't be any oxygen, CO2 or water left on Earth [00:14] MinceR and no amount of praying will stop that [00:14] phanes exactly why we need to divert defense budgets to space tech programs [00:15] MinceR the things humans are doing to themselves and their environment will kill us off long before that [00:15] phanes we need offworld colonization capability if its possible [00:15] MinceR good luck convincing the masses of that [00:15] DaemonFC Added: "EVs are clearly the latest pipe dream, and the only reason the companies making them are still going is that, up til late, investors have tolerated huge losses and interest rates have been cheap, but times are changing. [00:15] DaemonFC Although there are definitely some suckers out there who would buy another one after having nothing but problems already, some will be Once bitten, twice shy. about the whole idea. [00:15] DaemonFC If Biden stays in office, were looking at a future that is so jacked up, that the majority of people wont even be able to afford to live at all anymore, much less worry about how theyre going to fare when their dependable old car finally does go and EVs arent just a bad idea, theyre the law." [00:15] phanes nasa should be a core component of our society not some political prop with just enough budget to keep its staff out of bankruptcy [00:16] MinceR also esa, jaxa and the others [00:16] phanes idk i dont like the idea of privatization of that effort as much [00:16] MinceR those are all state space agencies, afaik [00:17] phanes if you think corporations are evil wait until they're not sending oxygen to prevent their IP from being exposed [00:17] MinceR but sure, private enterprise can try too [00:17] phanes i was thinking of like [00:17] phanes spacex [00:18] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/15/stray-cat-comforts-someone-crying-in-public-proving-some-cats-have-hearts/ [00:18] TR Bot Stray Cat Comforts Someone Crying In Public, Proving Some Cats Have Hearts (18 Pics) [00:18] phanes privatization is good after the nationstates have developed ecosystems and pipelines for public resources in space [00:18] phanes our laws and culture would have to dramatically change to handle this [00:18] MinceR our laws and culture would have to dramatically change for us to survive on the long term anyway [00:19] DaemonFC THe administrator of NASA is warning that China will take over the moon. [00:19] phanes i mean [00:19] DaemonFC Apparently they've made a deal with the Martians too. [00:19] MinceR mars is already red [00:19] MinceR coincidence? [00:20] phanes its a delicate environment that needs tightly and effectively controlled, would the us really be the best caretakers of it [00:20] phanes a chinese moon is probably the best outcome of available options right now [00:20] MinceR i don't see how [00:20] DaemonFC You say I need oxygen, I say get your big government boot off my neck. [00:20] DaemonFC It's all a matter of opinion, really. [00:20] phanes what i mean is, its not on earth, even the atmosphere would be artificial and require very serious and effective controls [00:21] MinceR my opinion is that the human species simply doesn't have what it takes [00:21] phanes the US can't wing that, russia sure as hell can't, china might be able to handle it better [00:21] MinceR and there's precious little time left for any surviving life on Earth to evolve real intelligence [00:21] MinceR the only thing red china can handle better is making life really shitty for its subjects [00:22] MinceR and even that north korea probably does better [00:22] phanes if your social credit score drops below 500 they just open your habitat module to the cold expanse of space while you're sleeping lol [00:22] MinceR i doubt my social credit score will ever even reach 500 [00:23] DaemonFC Still tweaking the article. [00:23] phanes is the concept of american freedom really compatible with a permanent space colony env environment is what im getting at [00:23] phanes if we were terraforming, sure, makes sense [00:23] MinceR is the concept of american freedom compatible with the usa? [00:23] MinceR or with humanity? [00:23] phanes i mean [00:23] phanes how many bombs are we talking about [00:23] MinceR \_()_/ [00:23] TR News Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.5 RC 1 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-5-rc-1 Source: godotengine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-4-5-rc-1 [00:24] TR Bot Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.4.5 RC 1 [00:26] phanes jesus grubhub has pizza hut listed as italian food [00:27] MinceR is there a more appropriate category for it in grubhub? [00:27] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [00:27] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@xut3kp7tmzcx4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:28] TR News Alpine 3.13.11, 3.14.7 and 3.15.5 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167431 [00:28] TR News Lubuntu 22.04 Backports PPA Released With LXQt 1.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167432 [00:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167433 [00:28] TR Bot Alpine 3.13.11, 3.14.7 and 3.15.5 released | Tux Machines [00:28] phanes american [00:28] TR Bot Lubuntu 22.04 Backports PPA Released With LXQt 1.1 | Tux Machines [00:28] phanes where taco bell should be [00:29] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:29] MinceR and all the american-style pizza places, then :> [00:30] DaemonFC Update: As you can see, Eric Sandeen has responded to my post: [00:30] DaemonFC So I read some more on his blog, and it turned out a man named Ken Clifton wrote: [00:30] DaemonFC Regarding our two LEAF(s) we traded both of them for Chevy Volts. I had one of the very first Gid meters built by Garry Giddings to check the battery capacity. After a year of ownership my 2012 was down to 85 percent. Based on that trend and at the time Nissan was still in a state of denial, I was desperate to get out of the car. My wife kept hers another year, but when winter was setting in 2014 the cold weather range was too tight [00:30] DaemonFC for her to make it to work and picking up children. We have been very happy with the Volts. My 2013 Volt still has as much battery range as the day I picked it up. The cars have been outstanding for us.-Ken Clifton [00:30] DaemonFC On his other post, Sandeen had a reader respond: [00:30] DaemonFC What can I do? I did not qualify for the new battery repalcement because I had neither 8 bars left or over 60,000 miles in 2017. I havE a 2012 LEAF, AND 60 MONTHS OR 60,000 MILES IS WHAT i NEEDED AT THAT TIME. help WHERE DOES THAT PUT ME??-"Jose" [00:30] DaemonFC Sandeen suggested paying full price for the battery. [00:30] DaemonFC It also seems that to actually have any chance of getting Nissan to honor the battery warranty, you have to take it to the dealer every year for "battery software updates". [00:30] DaemonFC This doesn't sound promising. Many OEMs hide serious defects in their cars by updating the software so it doesn't warn you there's a problem, or changes how the car operates so it's not as likely to explode, where the real fix would be tearing down the engine (Kia). [00:30] DaemonFC Maybe Nissan has some form of "battery throttling" like Apple does on the iPhone to keep people away from the service department demanding new batteries until it's out of warranty. Who knows? It's proprietary, right? :) [00:30] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], ^ This is becoming an interesting article. [00:30] schestowitz[TR2] american foods = corndogs [00:31] MinceR most burgers [00:31] *DaemonFC growls at schestowitz[TR2] [00:31] schestowitz[TR2] they just call them burgers [00:31] DaemonFC Get away from mah corndog! [00:31] schestowitz[TR2] here you can call them "faggoits" [00:31] MinceR clam chowder [00:31] DaemonFC BANG BANG BANG!!! [00:31] schestowitz[TR2] just don't call them that in the US [00:31] DaemonFC MAH CORNDAWG!!!! [00:31] MinceR scrapple [00:31] DaemonFC You caught me! I like to slip away every now and then to suck on a fag! [00:32] schestowitz[TR2] that's a cig [00:32] MinceR philadelphia cheesesteak [00:32] DaemonFC philadelphia cheesesteak [00:32] DaemonFC Those are fucking awesome! [00:32] MinceR crab cakes [00:32] DaemonFC Try the one at Jeffery Sub on 71st street if you don't get shot getting there. [00:32] MinceR buffalo wings [00:33] MinceR unfortunately, i can't afford to travel to the usa [00:33] DaemonFC Neither can I and I'm already here. :( [00:34] MinceR chicken and waffles, sweet tea [00:34] TR News "The Old Computer Challenge V2 is over! What a week! It was even more than a week, as it was from 10th to 17th july included, that was 8 days." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/old-computer-challenge-v2-ending.gmi [00:34] MinceR where would chili con carne go? [00:34] MinceR wikipedia says it's either from northern mexico or southern texas [00:35] phanes you'd think this guy would know 3rd party attack vectors just dont get the job done by now, today was hilarious [00:35] TR News "Maybe I'm just not cut out for a real job. I can at least save up money and pay off my debts if I do gig economy work while living with family." gemini://november.smol.pub/july [00:37] MinceR phanes: has he actually tried something? [00:38] phanes MinceR: eh, nothing notable. he's still in that flop around process of testing his environment to see if he's got a path forward that doesn't blow up on him. [00:38] MinceR :> [00:39] phanes im actually not looking forward to the inevitable rageout [00:39] phanes you ever seen narcissistic rage man? its some psycho shit. [00:40] DaemonFC https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/vatican-bans-investments-defense-weapons-embryonic-stem-cell-research [00:40] TR Bot Vatican bans investments in defense, weapons, embryonic stem cell research | Fox Business [00:40] DaemonFC Meanwhile, they file bankruptcy against mom's pensions because lying isn't in the Ten Commandments. [00:41] phanes lol [00:41] phanes sure it is [00:41] phanes thou shalt not bear false witness [00:42] phanes it is such a fundamental aspect of human civilization that it probably wouldn't need one regardless of the abrahamic steer on human development [00:42] phanes but [00:42] phanes it wouldn't fit the commandments' model [00:42] phanes there are virtuous reasons to lie sometimes [00:43] MinceR there are virtuous reasons to kill [00:43] MinceR and yet there it is [00:43] phanes hiding children in the floors and walls from gestapo [00:43] MinceR there are virtuous reasons to dishonor thy parents [00:43] phanes thats lying [00:43] MinceR and yet there it is [00:43] phanes ands its the right thing to do [00:44] MinceR abrahamism is a very poor guide to moral behavior and the cult DaemonFC is talking about is an excellent example of that [00:44] phanes parents is a culture context thing though [00:44] phanes like [00:44] DaemonFC there are virtuous reasons to kill [00:44] phanes eh [00:44] phanes i think so [00:44] phanes not everyone thinks so [00:44] MinceR at least some people are wrong [00:44] DaemonFC Yeah, if anyone vandalizes my stuff. [00:45] phanes i wouldn't say there are "virtuous reasons to kill" so much as that there are allowable exceptions that are justified [00:45] phanes i mean [00:45] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:45] MinceR they forgot to mention the fact that there are such exceptions [00:46] *MinceR kills some thousands of bacteria [00:46] phanes if i wake up in the middle of the night and i see the flash of a knife someone is probably going to die in my house, but that does mean the killing was virtuous [00:46] phanes *doesn't [00:46] MinceR :> [00:49] phanes if someone's parents are abusing them and they get away and disown them, its not a bad thing, but i would see that as an exception [00:50] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [00:54] phanes little white lies are one of the glues of society too, unfortunately. do not tell her that her ass looks fat in that dress, don't tell your neighbor that their baby is ugly, and dont tell your boss that they dont know what theyre talking about (most of the time) [00:58] *earthling has quit (connection closed) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jul 20 [01:00] *earthling (~earthling@wmmwuphg68bik.irc) has joined #techrights [01:01] MinceR :> [01:02] *phanes is now known as brabo [01:02] DaemonFC https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/zillow-quits-home-flipping-business-cites-inability-to-forecast-prices [01:02] TR Bot Zillow quits home-flipping business, cites inability to forecast prices | Fox Business [01:02] DaemonFC "A wider look at Zillows national performance by analysts at KeyBanc Capital Markets found it had listed 66% of homes at prices below what it had paid for them, with an average discount of 4.5%." [01:02] DaemonFC :) [01:03] brabo yeah the market's fucked man [01:03] DaemonFC I hear the neighbor's smoke alarm going off again. [01:03] brabo every time i go to buy a house the prices go up [01:04] DaemonFC I guess that means dinner's done. [01:05] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], We can get by without heat in the winter, but I don't do well without air conditioning in the summer. [01:05] MinceR :> [01:05] DaemonFC I run the air conditioner pretty hard for about 90-100 days each year. [01:05] DaemonFC Then that's the end of that. [01:06] DaemonFC I have the air conditioner AND the dehumidifier on today. [01:07] DaemonFC I find it easier to sleep in a dry cold room. Unfortunately, between bizarre dreams, a sleep paralysis episode, and two hours of, ermmm, needing to go to the bathroom and being too tired to actually get up and do it.... [01:07] DaemonFC Not much sleep today. [01:08] brabo i wonder how much of an impact on global temp has of most of the planet running a/c all the time [01:08] brabo a/c units generate more heat than they cool off [01:08] DaemonFC The R-134a models are actually not as efficient as the old R-12 ones. [01:09] DaemonFC They say they are, but they don't get cold like the old ones did. [01:09] DaemonFC They're a hell of a lot better than nothing, I guess. [01:11] earthling i open the windows during night, and close during daytime, this alone lowers indoor temperature by more than 5degC [01:11] earthling and currently, reported excess temperatures, are, debatable [01:12] earthling because, a mechanism to compensate for "climate damage" and redistribution of cash is prepared for [01:12] *MinceR debates the existence of the universe [01:12] *brabo is now known as bagira [01:12] earthling the hotter it gets... the more it burns, the worse the harvest... you get the idea, record this, record that, cash funneled [01:12] MinceR yes, some people using climate change for profiteering proves climate change to be nonexistent [01:12] MinceR flawless logic [01:12] earthling the entire "climate change" propaganda is a cash grabbing scam [01:13] MinceR you can't have flaws in your logic if you don't have logic! http://i.imgur.com/4RZEL9m.gif [01:13] earthling there isn't any "long-term trend", it is mostly _localized_ temperature anomalies [01:13] earthling those localized short-term anomalies, sum up to a global aggregate, yes [01:13] earthling but it is _local_ impact of destroying forests, rerouting water supplies, etc. [01:14] earthling yet, with the global carbon propaganda spook, they establish a cash redistribution mechanism [01:14] bagira aren't we actually entering a minor ice age? [01:14] earthling i think, most of the measurements taken, are off-scale [01:15] earthling it's almost as if, placing a thermometer next to a heater, and wondering why it's hot [01:15] earthling this is "climate science" [01:16] earthling in bavarian forest, temperature is almost 10degC lower than in city of munich... so what is the spooky global trend? [01:16] earthling it's all propaganda scam and lies [01:17] earthling they cut down forests, destroy ripean forests and swamps, and wonder why the cooling effect of condensing water vanishes [01:17] earthling instead they say, it's CO2 [01:18] earthling villages are built into river beds of rerouted rivers, then they say its a record flood of a millenia which destroyed buildings [01:18] MinceR this is even more laughable than the "it snowed once last winter, therefore there's no global warming" "argument" [01:18] MinceR "there are temperature differences, therefore there's no global warming!" [01:19] earthling it is, mostly, _localized_ anomalies [01:19] MinceR localized to planet Earth [01:19] earthling such as, in the alps mountains, any ideas how much water and energy those snow cannons suck? [01:19] earthling MinceR: wrong [01:19] MinceR how much has Uranus warmed in the last 100 years? [01:19] earthling scientists argument was, rain-forest regions are rather resistent against "global" warming, because of their water cycling [01:20] earthling however, if all rain-forest is destroyed, globally, guess what... [01:20] earthling of cause, the CO2 trend is alarming, although i would attribute this to the reported decline in phyto-plancton in the oceans, not CO2 [01:21] earthling the phyto-plancton decline is related to dumping waste and shit into oceans across all coasts, globally, again [01:22] earthling cutting down forests, to plant maize and oil rapeseed, then they say this is "renewable" energy, to burn this as "bio fuel" [01:23] earthling the irony, of the cash-redistribution to compensate climate "victims", it is those who most excessively destroyed forests who would benefit most [01:24] earthling and then planting maize and rapeseed, to harvest "bio" fuels... this is the "green new deal", to burn forests [01:25] earthling "social ecological justice", next episode [01:25] earthling which is, the relative price paid per kWh is higher with _lower_ consumption, meaning low consumption is SANCTIONED by the pricing structure introduced [01:26] earthling in germany, and this type of "justice" was introduced, guess who it was: "social" "democrats" "greens" "christians" "liberals" [01:26] earthling we got more flavors of this "ECO FASCIST" criminals here than in USA [01:26] earthling in any case, they are "atlantic bridge", all of them [01:32] earthling another explanation, which the Oil industry may not wish to talk about, is Oil spills (gulf of mexico), which destroyed phyto-plancton [01:32] earthling hence CO2 increase... [01:32] earthling and there is NO direct link between CO2 and the temperature anomalies [01:32] earthling all those "scientists", they're all propaganda mouth pieces [01:33] earthling another one is this, the "1.5degC target", its total nonsense [01:33] earthling the temperature anomalies SURPASSED those 1.5degC by far, it is at least 10degC already, not something in the future [01:34] earthling it is all fraud and lies and scam [01:34] earthling everything they say, those "scientists" [01:42] earthling "carbon neutral economy", another one, although CO2 is an alaraming trend, the concentration increase was relatively moderate, +~30% iirc [01:42] earthling in comparison, METHANE concentration increase was ~+300% ... related to spills and methane blowouts [01:43] MinceR also related to melting former permafrost [01:43] earthling this is what's mentioned first often, yet again, i think it is something else to look at first [01:44] earthling Oil Spills such as the one in Gulf of Mexico, which destroyed phyto-plancton, rotting then [01:44] MinceR yet another thing vladolf doesn't like hearing about, i guess [01:44] earthling too my knowledge Russian oil industry didn't cause such a massive spill yet [01:45] earthling Gulf of Mexico spill was EXTREME [01:45] earthling however, all those climate "scientists", it's all political/ideological rubbish ONLY, to redistribute cash [01:46] MinceR proven via repetition and caps. [01:46] earthling no, proven by facts [01:46] earthling because, all the "climate action" take, excess redistribution of cash, had this effect onto "climate": NULL, Nothing, Zero [01:46] earthling n [01:47] MinceR that's a better effect than that of climate denialism [01:47] earthling yet, guess what, they want to redistribute even more of it, cash, into their pockets [01:49] earthling the "renewable" innovation is this: susbidize energy which is not produced, increase prizes on energy which doesn't exist, increase taxation on energy which isn't consumed [01:49] earthling only problem with this, energy is required, hence maize and rapeseed and palm oil trees, which forests are cut down for [01:50] earthling to produce "bio fuels", that's "renewable" [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [02:32] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[03:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [03:38] AdmFubar wonders if netflix counted the freeloaders as customers? and when customers no longer renewed their renewed their subscriptions did they count the freeloaders as loss? https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/19/netflix-loses-970000-subscribers-its-largest-quarterly-loss-ever/ [03:38] TR Bot loses 970,000 subscribers, its largest quarterly loss ever TechCrunch [03:50] earthling USA FED supposedly tightened the budget... maybe another explanation why some customers run out of cash and terminate their NetFlix first [03:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Forgot to point out that Lennart does not contribute to PulseAudio anymore, so technically that project doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft either. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 291.13 ● Jul 20 [04:11] bagira hey did this ever get covered in techrights? https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99#issuecomment-875319084 [04:11] TR Bot as Maintainer of this Fork Issue #99 tenacityteam/tenacity GitHub [04:12] bagira anybody ever find out who was involved in stalking and assulating this guy? [04:12] bagira *assaulting [04:16] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I doubt the economics of electric cars will ever work. [04:16] DaemonFC Who wants to buy a car that's not even old and doesn't even have any rust spots and then have the warning lights all come on and have the car kill out on the way home and then have Ford say "Oh, those batteries are $14,000 and we don't make them."? [04:17] DaemonFC All of the car companies making them are just super shady. [04:17] DaemonFC They're not reliable like gasoline cars tend to be. [04:39] bagira you have to have an interchangebale parts ecosystem [04:39] bagira google glass failed for the same reason [04:43] earthling the business model of battery powered electric vehicles is "carbon certificates" cash grabbing scam [04:44] earthling if either those are quality engineering or not, manufacturers receive those certificates, which cumbustion engine vehicle manufacturers are _forced_ to pay for [04:47] earthling similar situation with solar panels and wind turbines and the subsidy fraud with those, which is even more excessive than electric vehicles [04:48] earthling meanwhile i see those electric vehicles at the charging stations in the city, reports were coal power plants operate at maximum again [04:51] DaemonFC yeah, they sell one, they get to take "credit" for it in carbon schemes and CAFE schemes [04:51] DaemonFC It doesn't matter if it breaks down three years later. [04:52] DaemonFC It doesn't matter if people replacing cars every few years actually makes the lifetime carbon emissions worse than an old Buick. [04:52] DaemonFC It's a carbon Ponzi. [04:52] DaemonFC Thought up by mjg59_'s Congresswoman, Pelosi, and those like her. [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 290.88 ● Jul 20 [05:08] *earthling has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:09] *earthling (~earthling@n8fdpfm6ycq2q.irc) has joined #techrights [05:16] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [05:26] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:37] DaemonFC Mandy thinks F is for Family is funny. There's an occasional laugh. [05:38] DaemonFC I like how Frank yells "I should have died in Korea!". [05:38] DaemonFC Yeah, way past being burned out. [05:40] DaemonFC Being against the backdrop of the 1970s really gives it this sort of "Ugh...." feeling that's relatable to what's going on now in some ways. [05:40] DaemonFC The economy being screwed up, a whole nation that's depressed and angry. 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The database was cleared out and redone so that I can update how data is stored." gemini://auragem.space/devlog/20220719.gmi [06:19] TR News Doomers over the line gemini://idiomdrottning.org/doomers-over-the-line [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:48] *Redfoxmoon_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 37.13 ● Jul 20 [07:05] TR News The EPO Bubble Part VIII The Algerian Skirmisher Replaces the British Grenadier | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/grant-philpott-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/grant-philpott-out/ [07:05] TR Bot The EPO Bubble Part VIII The Algerian Skirmisher Replaces the British Grenadier | Techrights [07:20] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [07:22] TR News [Meme] Master of None | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-of-all-trades-master-of-none/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-of-all-trades-master-of-none/ [07:22] TR Bot [Meme] Master of None | Techrights [07:23] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:25] TR News The Rule of Two gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/only_two.gmi [07:30] *Redfoxmoon (~Red@freenode-vq3.aj5.jaj210.IP) has joined #techrights [07:32] TR News Temperatures fell by 30 today: 63.2F gemini://auragem.space/weather/imperial/location?manchester%2C%20uk [07:34] *immibis_ (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [07:34] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [07:35] TR News Ranger: Terminal File Manager inspired by VIM for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167435 [07:35] TR Bot Ranger: Terminal File Manager inspired by VIM for Linux | Tux Machines [07:36] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:37] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:47] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:49] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [07:50] *immibis (~hexchat@6wevdscyutjfy.irc) has joined #techrights [07:50] *immibis (~hexchat@i689751E6.versanet.de) has joined #techrights [07:56] *immibis_ (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [07:56] *immibis_ (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [07:57] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [07:59] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) ● Jul 20 [08:08] *techrights_guest|33 (~56f6207d@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:09] schestowitz[TR2] hello, techrights_guest|33 [08:09] techrights_guest|33 Hello ! [08:09] techrights_guest|33 Congratulations for the work you have done on your website ! [08:09] techrights_guest|33 We are currently working on netlinking with several clients and right now one of them would be interested in buying a sponsored link Are you open to this type of partnership ? [08:09] techrights_guest|33 If so , we would be delighted to discuss it ! [08:09] techrights_guest|33 Thank you ! [08:09] techrights_guest|33 Sincerely yours, [08:09] techrights_guest|33 quentin.gres@smartkeyword.fr [08:10] *techrights_guest|33 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [08:12] schestowitz[TR2] now the spammers target irc :/ [08:14] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:15] bagira i have a hard time thinking legit (lol) spammers would target irc in 2022 [08:22] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:22] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [08:22] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:23] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:33] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:36] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [08:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:39] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [08:40] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:51] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:53] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] bagira The denobulans. That's who I was thinking of with the whole "metamour" thing earlier. ● Jul 20 [09:00] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/irc-log-190722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/irc-log-190722/ [09:00] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 | Techrights [09:09] TR News "Douglas: The best thing we can do today to JavaScript is to retire it" https://evrone.com/douglas-crockford-interview | [09:09] TR Bot Creator Douglas Crockford Interview by Evrone [09:09] TR News "Morti is controlled by an artificial intelligence algorithm" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2329136-a-four-legged-robot-can-learn-to-walk-in-an-hour-like-a-newborn-foal/ | Source: New Scientist [09:09] TR Bot Morti the four-legged robot can learn to walk in only an hour | New Scientist [09:09] TR News "An installation-art company called META (or Meta.is) announced Tuesday that it will be suing Meta (or Facebook) for trademark violation" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270164/meta-augmented-reality-facebook-lawsuit | Source: The Verge [09:09] TR Bot A company called Meta is suing Meta for naming itself Meta - The Verge [09:11] TR News Apple "notoriously unreliable" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270157/apple-butterfly-keyboard-settlement-class-action-lawsuit | Source: The Verge [09:11] TR Bot Apple will settle butterfly keyboard lawsuit for $50 million - The Verge [09:11] TR News Apple = shit sprinkled with glitter https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/apple-reaches-50-mln-settlement-over-defective-macbook-keyboards-2022-07-19/ | Source: Reuters [09:11] TR Bot reaches $50 mln settlement over defective MacBook keyboards | Reuters [09:11] TR News "App" your arse, Gulag https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/enterprise-services-and-applications/google-faces-1-billion-uk-trial-over-app-store-pricing/92995135 | Source: India Times [09:11] TR Bot google uk trial: Google faces $1 billion UK trial over app store pricing, CIO News, ET CIO [09:11] TR News Proprietary software https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3565973-us-recovers-over-half-a-million-dollars-in-ransom-payments-to-north-korea/ | Source: The Hill [09:11] TR Bot US recovers more than half a million dollars in ransom payments to North Korea | The Hill [09:15] TR News Surveillance https://news.umich.edu/open-source-platform-enables-research-on-privacy-preserving-machine-learning/ | Source: uni Michigan [09:15] TR Bot Open source platform enables research on privacy-preserving machine learning | University of Michigan News [09:19] TR News Energy wasted https://www.salon.com/2022/07/19/cryptomining-uses-a-disturbing-amount-of-energy-lawmakers-find_partner/ | Source: Salon [09:19] TR Bot uses a "disturbing" amount of energy, lawmakers find | Salon.com [09:20] TR News Where the F is Microsoft? It's the worst of all! https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270400/facebook-google-amazon-apple-antitrust-house-judiciary-investigation-report | Source: The Verge [09:20] TR Bot Internal documents show Facebook and Google discussing platform strategies - The Verge [09:20] TR News "Twitters lawsuit seeking to force Elon Musk to complete his $44 billion acquisition" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3565918-twitter-wins-expedited-trial-in-musk-case/ | Source: The Hill [09:20] TR Bot Twitter wins expedited trial in Musk case | The Hill [09:20] TR News "CHIPS-plus on Tuesday evening cleared its first procedural hurdle in a 64-34 vote" https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senators-are-advancing-computer-chips-bill-dont-know-yet-rcna39006 | Source: NBC [09:20] TR Bot Senators are advancing a computer chips bill. They don't know what's in it yet. [09:20] TR News "Amazon has filed a lawsuit against administrators of more than 10,000 Facebook groups it accuses of coordinating fake reviews in exchange for money or free products." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/amazon-sues-admins-of-10k-facebook-groups-over-fake-reviews/92994472 | Source: India Times [09:20] TR Bot amazon: Amazon sues admins of 10K Facebook groups over fake reviews, CIO News, ET CIO [09:22] TR News "Such posts typically include messages suggesting that the colour of the maps has been changed to red by media or authorities seeking to create panic." https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1943756.html | Source: RTL [09:22] TR Bot RTL Today - Misleading claims online: Climate deniers sow weather-map heatwave misinfo [09:22] TR News "A toxic social media movement had already been building around the director since at least 2018" https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/justice-league-the-snyder-cut-bots-fans-1384231/ | Source: Rolling Stone [09:22] TR Bot How the 'Justice League' Snyder Cut Was Driven by Bots & an Ad Agency - Rolling Stone [09:28] TR News "But about 40% of Gen Zers prefer to discover information" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/many-gen-zers-dont-use-google-s-prefer-search-tiktok-instagram-rcna38221 | Source: NBC [09:28] TR Bot Many Gen Zers dont use Google. Heres why they preferto search on TikTok and Instagram. [09:28] *earthling has quit (connection closed) [09:28] TR News "It isnt at all surprising that bots and networks of accounts pretending to be real people were part of the throbbing mass that treated its efforts to bring the Snyder Cut" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270229/zack-snyder-justice-league-bots-fandom | Source: The Verge [09:28] TR Bot The Snyder Cuts online fandom was reportedly infested with bots - The Verge [09:29] *earthling (~earthling@e56aqnyrpnfiu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:29] TR News "Jakarta, The Indonesian authorities are set to block social media applications and online sites including Google, Facebook, and WhatsApp" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/indonesia-to-block-facebook-google-whatsapp-if-they-fail-to-register-for-licenses/92994782 | Source: India Times [09:29] TR Bot Indonesia to block Facebook, Google, WhatsApp if they fail to register for licenses, CIO News, ET CIO [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:31] TR News "taxi fares have risen by an average of 30 percent" https://yle.fi/news/3-12543458 | Source: YLE [09:31] TR Bot Consumers' Union: Taxi law reforms cause 40% fare hikes, worse service | News | Yle Uutiset [09:32] TR News The Modern Web's Many Single Points of Failure gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-20-the-modern-web-s-many-single-points-of-failure.gmi [09:34] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) is a BUBBLE https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/netflix-earnings-2nd-quarter-2022-subscribers-rcna38903 | Source: NBC [09:34] TR Bot Netflix reports loss of 1 million subscribers in the last quarter [09:35] TR News "just shy of 221 million subscribers" https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1943693.html | Source: RTL [09:35] TR Bot RTL Today - Battling fierce competition: Netflix subscriber numbers drop two quarters in a row [09:35] TR News "hundreds of job cuts and a sharp drop in its share price" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62226912 | Source: BillBC, PR operation for high-profile pedophiles [09:35] TR Bot loses almost a million subscribers - BBC News [09:35] TR News "Netflix's biggest subscriber loss came from its biggest market" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/19/media/netflix-earnings/index.html | Source: CNN [09:35] TR Bot Netflix loses subscribers, but stops the bleeding - CNN [09:36] TR News "a partnership with Microsoft" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23268626/netflix-q2-2022-earnings-subscribers-ads-stranger-things | Source: The Verge [09:36] TR Bot Netflix subscriber count in the US and Canada dropped by 1.3 million over the last three months - The Verge [09:36] TR News Price UP, Netflix gives you even LESS for it https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270693/netflix-adds-ads-subtracts-content-streaming-tier | Source: The Verge [09:36] TR Bot Netflixs ad-supported tier wont have everything at launch - The Verge [09:37] TR News "It shed a whopping 1.3 million subscribers across the US and Canada" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/19/23270669/netflix-ceo-reed-hastings-linear-tv-die | Source: The Verge [09:37] TR Bot Netflixs CEO is ready for linear TV to die - The Verge [09:38] TR News "Modern web services build their entire businesses on being available and their customers come to expect it. They use a whole suite of tools to reach that goal, but each new tool brings both benefits and risks. Would a slower development pace and a lower expectation of uptime and speed bring more security?" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-20-the-modern-web-s-many-single-points-of-failure.gmi [09:41] TR News "Participants from the openSUSE community working on the upcoming release of the Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) encourage people to try openSUSE MicroOS Desktop" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/07/19/microos-desktop-use-to-help-with-alp-feedback/ | [09:41] TR Bot MicroOS Desktop Use to Help with ALP Feedback - openSUSE News [09:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [09:41] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [09:44] TR News Still trying to seem relevant, but mostly bullying its way and defrauding taxpayers/shareholders https://www.pcworld.com/article/814102/microsoft-has-cloned-facebook-on-top-of-teams.html [09:44] TR Bot Teams is bolting on a Facebook clone | PCWorld [09:45] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:47] TR News https://www.businessghana.com/site/news/technology/266867/Microsoft-u-turns-on-policy-that-would-ve-banned-commercial-open-source-apps [09:47] TR Bot u-turns on policy that wouldve banned commercial open source apps - BusinessGhana [09:47] TR News Microsoft u-turns on policy that wouldve banned commercial open source apps - BusinessGhana https://www.businessghana.com/site/news/technology/266867/Microsoft-u-turns-on-policy-that-would-ve-banned-commercial-open-source-apps Source: businessghana ● Jul 20 [10:00] TR News Links 19/07/2022: Alpine 3.13.11, 3.14.7 and 3.15.5; Chiark Upgraded After 30 Years | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/chiark-upgraded-after-30-years/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/chiark-upgraded-after-30-years/ [10:00] TR Bot Links 19/07/2022: Alpine 3.13.11, 3.14.7 and 3.15.5; Chiark Upgraded After 30 Years | Techrights [10:00] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167436 [10:00] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:01] TR News Graphics: lavapipe Vulkan 1.3 conformant and zink update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167437 [10:01] TR Bot Graphics: lavapipe Vulkan 1.3 conformant and zink update | Tux Machines [10:01] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167438 [10:01] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:03] *buzzert has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:22] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:26] *matey (~matey@fj4tshd67yzt8.irc) has joined #techrights [10:27] SomeH4x0r hi [10:27] matey hi [10:31] *buzzert (~buzzert@yfa6qu8jec8c4.irc) has joined #techrights [10:43] schestowitz[TR2] 0/ [10:50] TR News Razik Menidjel the Wrong COO, But Part of Patent Maximalists Coup | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-coup-detat/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-coup-detat/ [10:50] TR Bot Razik Menidjel the Wrong COO, But Part of Patent Maximalists Coup | Techrights [10:58] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [11:13] TR News [Meme] Patents for Granted | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-patents-for-granted/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-patents-for-granted/ [11:13] TR Bot [Meme] Patents for Granted | Techrights [11:17] TR News GNOME 43 Alpha Released to Kick Off GUADEC 2022 in Guadalajara, Mexico Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167439 [11:17] TR Bot GNOME 43 Alpha Released to Kick Off GUADEC 2022 in Guadalajara, Mexico | Tux Machines [11:17] TR News VirtualBox 6.1.36 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.19, Many Linux Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167440 [11:17] TR Bot VirtualBox 6.1.36 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.19, Many Linux Fixes | Tux Machines [11:18] TR News "Dead Cells is the absolutely brilliant game from Motion Twin and Evil Empire." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/dead-cells-has-an-exciting-roadmap-ahead-as-its-far-from-finished/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:18] TR Bot Cells has an exciting roadmap ahead as it's far from finished | GamingOnLinux [11:20] TR News Into the Breach: Advanced Edition https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/into-the-breach-advanced-edition-update-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:20] TR Bot the Breach: Advanced Edition update is out now | GamingOnLinux [11:20] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167441 [11:20] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [11:20] TR News Stray https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/run-around-a-cyberpunk-city-as-a-lost-cat-in-stray-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [11:20] TR Bot around a cyberpunk city as a lost cat in Stray - out now | GamingOnLinux [11:23] TR News The theft has accelerated because democracy got replaced by feudalism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/20/structuring-the-economy-to-give-money-to-the-rich-is-inflationary/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:23] TR Bot the Economy to Give Money to the Rich Is Inflationary - CounterPunch.org [11:23] TR News If Musk is FORCED to buy Twitter, then Twitter will also collapse. An unwanting owner... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/twitter-wins-round-one-trial-over-musk-purchase-will-happen-this-fall/ | Source: Techdirt [11:23] TR Bot Wins Round One: Trial Over Musk Purchase Will Happen This Fall | Techdirt [11:24] TR News California https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/californias-social-media-bill-flies-in-the-face-of-the-first-amendment/ | Source: Techdirt [11:24] TR Bot Social Media Bill Flies In The Face Of The First Amendment | Techdirt [11:24] TR News IBCAP https://torrentfreak.com/5-7m-win-against-pirate-iptv-seller-might-be-a-consolation-prize-220719/ | Source: Torrent Freak [11:24] TR Bot Win Against Pirate IPTV Seller Might Be Just a Consolation Prize * TorrentFreak [11:25] TR News "My recent retro coding on the Amiga got me thinking [far too much] about another idea Ive been cogitating on for a while: what shape would a"virtual console" for my own stuff take?" gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/korruptor/blog/2022-07-20-VirtualConsole.gmi [11:27] TR News Will EFF again give AWARDS to CRIMINALS from Microsoft? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/nominations-open-2022-eff-awards | http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [11:27] TR Bot Nominations Open for 2022 EFF Awards! | Electronic Frontier Foundation [11:27] TR Bot The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [11:27] TR News Unions are needed more than ever https://robertreich.org/post/690260484416520192 | Source: Robert Reich [11:27] TR Bot Robert Reich (How Amazon, Starbucks, and Other Companies Fight...) [11:27] psydroid2 $44 billion down the drain [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] yeah [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] but he got a lot of free publicity [11:28] schestowitz[TR2] free... so far [11:29] TR News Ewww and ewww https://opensource.com/article/22/7/learn-javascript-before-reactjs | Source: OpenSource.com [11:29] TR Bot much JavaScript do you need to know before learning ReactJS? | Opensource.com [11:31] TR News "four core Cortex-A55 processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [11:31] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/geniatechs-sbc-taps-rockchip-soc-and-runs-on-android-11-debian/ ) [11:31] TR News "This 3D camera module is based on the ADSD3100 which is a 1MP CMOS ToF-based 3D depth and 2D visual light imager." https://linuxgizmos.com/analog-devices-presents-high-res-3d-depth-camera/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [11:31] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/analog-devices-presents-high-res-3d-depth-camera/ ) [11:32] TR News "It is free and open source and comes with three officially supported editions namely Xfce" https://www.tecmint.com/install-manjaro-xfce/ | Source: TecMint [11:32] TR Bot Installation of Manjaro 21 (XFCE Edition) Desktop [11:42] TR News "Sometimes a gizmo seems too cheap to be true." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/putting-a-cheap-laser-rangefinder-through-its-paces/ | Source: Hackaday [11:42] TR Bot A Cheap Laser Rangefinder Through Its Paces | Hackaday [11:43] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167442 [11:43] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [11:43] TR News Qt Creator 8 Open-Source IDE Brings New Plugins, CMake and Python Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167443 [11:43] TR Bot Qt Creator 8 Open-Source IDE Brings New Plugins, CMake and Python Improvements | Tux Machines [11:44] TR News "A problem solving and brainstorming session needs the freedom to shift perspective away from current thinking." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/design-thinking-open-practice-library | Source: OpenSource.com [11:44] TR Bot Design Thinking into practice with the Open Practice Library | Opensource.com [11:44] TR News "folks who wanted to make their own custom PCBs" https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/washington-dc-finally-gets-its-own-pcb-metro-map/ | Source: Hackaday [11:44] TR Bot DC Finally Gets Its Own PCB Metro Map | Hackaday [11:46] TR News Hey, ProPublica, maybe you should investigate pedophilia enabler Bill Gates buying the MOST farmland in the US. Oh, wait. ProPublica took BRIBES from this famous criminal :/ https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/help-propublica-investigate-we-buy-houses-practices [11:46] TR Bot Help ProPublica Investigate We Buy Houses Practices ProPublica [11:46] TR News Telex reveals https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/19/telexs-fourth-transparency-report | Source: Telex (Hungary) [11:46] TR Bot Telex: Telex's fourth transparency report [11:46] TR News NewsGuard = Microsoft-connected censorship https://www.projectcensored.org/the-case-against-newsguard/ | Source: Project Censored [11:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/the-case-against-newsguard/ ) [11:47] TR News "Kepplers article typified the moral panic over fake news" https://www.projectcensored.org/did-lawmakers-finally-figure-out-that-critical-news-literacy-is-antidote-to-disinformation/ Misinformation/Disinformation often comes from MAINSTREAM corporate media [11:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/did-lawmakers-finally-figure-out-that-critical-news-literacy-is-antidote-to-disinformation/ ) [11:48] TR News International Association of Whistleblowers https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblower-summit-and-the-recent-election-results-in-colombia/ | Source: Project Censored [11:48] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblower-summit-and-the-recent-election-results-in-colombia/ ) [11:50] TR News "Poor Peoples Campaign is working to end the violence being inflicted every day by a soulless economic-political system." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/20/confronting-policy-murder-and-the-rising-violence-of-the-right/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:50] TR Bot Policy Murder and the Rising Violence of the Right - CounterPunch.org [11:51] TR News Valent Projects https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/19/leaked-docs-facebook-bot-adviser-secretly-in-pay-of-us-regime-change-agency/ | Source: Scheerpost [11:51] TR Bot Docs: Facebook Bot Adviser Secretly in Pay of US Regime Change Agency scheerpost.com [11:52] TR News Richard Wolff / Democracy At Work https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/19/video-ask-prof-wolff-why-are-strikes-and-unions-increasing/ | Source: Scheerpost [11:52] TR Bot Ask Prof Wolff: Why Are Strikes and Unions Increasing? scheerpost.com [11:53] TR News Patents as a scam: "If I gave you a million dollars to invent a better mousetrap, and told you that if you succeeded you could keep any and all profits..." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/19/public-university-patents-are-a-racket/ | Source: Scheerpost [11:53] TR Bot University Patents Are a Racket scheerpost.com [11:53] TR News "I havegot to have one of those!? If so, youre in good company with hacker [garberPark], the maker of the unusual chain clock seen in the video below the break." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/quirky-complicated-clock-piques-constructors-curiosity/ | Source: Hackaday [11:53] TR Bot Complicated Clock Piques Constructors Curiosity | Hackaday [11:54] TR News The kakistocracy in charge of todays EPO putting people in charge of disciplines they do not understand (and have no experience in!) is another sign of an institution gone profoundly rogue/wrong http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/razik-of-all-trades-master-of-none/ [11:54] TR Bot [Meme] Master of None | Techrights [11:55] TR News An oversensitive proponent of European software patents was in effect ejected (first demoted), but given his replacement its no reason for jubilation http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/grant-philpott-out/ [11:55] TR Bot The EPO Bubble Part VIII The Algerian Skirmisher Replaces the British Grenadier | Techrights [11:55] TR News The EPO became a very unprofessional workplace, where the head of operations repeatedly uses the F word and promotes people for complicity (e.g. propelling European software patents and violating the European Patent Convention (EPC)) http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-patents-for-granted/ [11:55] TR Bot [Meme] Patents for Granted | Techrights [11:55] TR News The decrease in patent compliance and the appointment of improper management figures means that todays EPO is just a rubber-stamping operation (it gets far worse very rapidly); we take stock of two days posts in the current EPO series (we also have 2 series about Microsoft running in parallel) http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-coup-detat/ [11:56] TR Bot Razik Menidjel the Wrong COO, But Part of Patent Maximalists Coup | Techrights [11:58] TR News The time this saves is less than the time taken to set up this gimmick, no? https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/iot-garage-door-opener-makes-for-excellent-beginner-iot-project/ | Source: Hackaday [11:58] TR Bot Garage Door Opener Makes For Excellent Beginner IOT Project | Hackaday [11:58] TR News "The aptly-named [chip-red-pill] team is offering you a chance to go down the Intel rabbit hole." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/down-the-intel-microcode-rabbit-hole/ | Source: Hackaday [11:58] TR Bot The Intel Microcode Rabbit Hole | Hackaday [11:59] TR News Aaron Mat vs Bill Gates-bribed 'guardian' (oligarchs' propaganda custom-made for the left) https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/19/grayzone-guardian-syria-smears/ | Source: The Gray Zone [11:59] TR Bot Aaron Mat challenges Guardian reporter on US govt-funded Syria smears - The Grayzone ● Jul 20 [12:00] TR News Programmable https://hackaday.com/2022/07/19/programmable-resistance-box/ | Source: Hackaday [12:00] TR Bot Resistance Box | Hackaday [12:00] TR News "greedflation" https://truthout.org/articles/report-ceos-are-driving-greedflation-raising-prices-to-pay-themselves-more/ | Source: TruthOut [12:00] TR Bot Report: CEOs Are Driving "Greedflation," Raising Prices to Pay Themselves More [12:01] TR News If food prices keep rising the temptation to eat the rich will grow [12:03] TR News Misuse of trademark law https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/bakery-sues-other-bakery-in-trademark-suit-over-unprotectable-elements/ | Source: Techdirt [12:03] TR Bot Sues Other Bakery In Trademark Suit Over Unprotectable Elements | Techdirt [12:03] TR News "About a week ago, a Florida judge decided a local law superseded the First Amendment." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/florida-judge-dissolves-injunction-blocking-paper-from-publishing-names-of-officers-who-killed-a-man/ | Source: Techdirt [12:03] TR Bot Judge Dissolves Injunction Blocking Paper From Publishing Names Of Officers Who Killed A Man | Techdirt [12:04] TR News Karl Bode https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-326-broadband-competition-is-just-a-click-away/ | Source: Techdirt [12:04] TR Bot Podcast Episode 326: Broadband Competition Is Just A Click Away | Techdirt [12:04] TR News On net neutrality https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/19/democrats-hope-to-gotcha-the-gop-with-doomed-new-net-neutrality-bill/ | Source: Techdirt [12:04] TR Bot Hope To Gotcha The GOP With Doomed New Net Neutrality Bill | Techdirt [12:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@b9tvxswrf2amy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] psydroid2 greedflation can be decreased by not buying overpriced (luxury) products [12:12] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:24] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@h29stqv8ereqe.irc) has joined #techrights [12:24] schestowitz[TR2] to some extent [12:25] TR News Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/19/excluding-insulin-drug-price-reform-slap-face-advocates-say | Source: Common Dreams [12:25] TR Bot Excluding Insulin From Drug Price Reform a 'Slap in the Face,' Advocates Say [12:25] TR News "CEOs, not working people, are causing inflation" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/19/ceos-not-working-people-are-causing-inflation-report-shows-soaring-executive-pay | Source: Common Dreams [12:25] TR Bot 'CEOs, Not Working People, Are Causing Inflation': Report Shows Soaring Executive Pay [12:26] TR News Privacy is a right https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/19/hidden-dangers-health-tracking-apps-post-roe | Source: Common Dreams [12:26] TR Bot Opinion | Hidden Dangers of Health-Tracking Apps Post Roe | Jennifer Thompson [12:29] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [12:30] TR News Impoverishing the people https://truthout.org/articles/the-value-of-the-federal-minimum-wage-is-at-a-66-year-low/ | Source: TruthOut [12:30] TR Bot The Value of the Federal Minimum Wage Is at a 66-Year Low [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:32] TR News "Author and law professor Maurice Stucke warns that as fundamental privacy rights vanish" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/19/what-happens-when-big-brother-meets-big-tech/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:32] TR Bot Happens When Big Brother Meets Big Tech scheerpost.com [12:34] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@b9tvxswrf2amy.irc) has joined #techrights [12:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:44] TR News Games: Breach: Advanced Edition and Stray Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167444 [12:45] TR Bot Games: Breach: Advanced Edition and Stray | Tux Machines [12:47] TR News todays programming and hacking leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167445 [12:47] TR Bot today's programming and hacking leftovers | Tux Machines [12:47] TR News Links 20/07/2022: GNOME 43 Alpha Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/gnome-43-alpha/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/gnome-43-alpha/ [12:47] TR Bot Links 20/07/2022: GNOME 43 Alpha Release | Techrights [12:51] TR News IBM-funded site promoting the lie that IBM is doing well financially ('creative' accounting) https://www.itjungle.com/2022/07/20/four-hundred-monitor-july-20/ [12:51] TR Bot Four Hundred Monitor, July 20 - IT Jungle [12:52] TR News "Modernization" as meaningless buzzword touted constantly by IBM to sell complexity https://www.itjungle.com/2022/07/20/modernization-starts-with-the-business-and-the-tech-follows/ [12:52] TR Bot Modernization Starts with the Business, and the Tech Follows - IT Jungle [12:54] TR News Steven Vaughan-Nichols, became stenographer for whoever pays his salary [12:55] TR News SJVN is now acting like a PR industry worker [12:57] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167446 [12:58] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [13:00] TR News curl is 8888 days old | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/07/20/curl-is-8888-days-old/ and still hosted by 666 (Microsoft+proprietary) [13:00] TR Bot is 8888 days old | daniel.haxx.se [13:01] TR News An ocean of buzzwords https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/8-cios-share-insights-strategy [13:01] TR Bot Lessons learned on strategy: 8 CIOs share their most useful tips | The Enterprisers Project [13:02] TR News ICBM uses corrupt Gartner as a source https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/automation-3-emerging-issues-watch see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [13:02] TR Bot 3 automation trends happening right now | The Enterprisers Project [13:02] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [13:03] TR News Sys admins by another name https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/skills-cloud-native-developer [13:03] TR Bot Top 4 skills to be a cloud-native developer | The Enterprisers Project [13:07] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk ReCap Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167447 [13:07] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk ReCap | Tux Machines [13:08] TR News Re: [PATCH] media: destage Hantro VPU driver - Nicolas Dufresne https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/29f4606d3a028da62d4d5f5686622609364a1979.camel@ndufresne.ca/ Source: ndufresne | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/29f4606d3a028da62d4d5f5686622609364a1979.camel@ndufresne.ca/ [13:08] TR Bot Re: [PATCH] media: destage Hantro VPU driver - Nicolas Dufresne [13:20] TR News Regata 22.0.3 is out https://www.regataos.com.br/ [13:20] TR Bot Conhea o sistema operacional Regata OS [13:23] TR News curl is 8888 days old Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167449 [13:23] TR News Autojump: An Advanced Way to Navigate Long Path Directories in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167450 [13:23] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:23] TR Bot curl is 8888 days old | Tux Machines [13:23] TR News "distinguish DAM decisions from decisions that are more about vision and direction, and would require more representation" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167448#comment-34395 [13:23] TR Bot Autojump: An Advanced Way to Navigate Long Path Directories in Linux | Tux Machines [13:23] TR Bot Enrico Zini on DAM and "responsability" | Tux Machines [13:25] TR News "i struggled with alcohol dependency, i had a huge breakdown, and i was irresponsible, impulsive. my brain really hurts from all the dumb shit i put it through. so i've been extremely indulging in being alone for while.. at least until i become normaler lol..." gemini://tigercarnival.cities.yesterweb.org/logs/07192022.gmi [13:37] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [13:42] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [13:42] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [13:58] TR News There are worse crimes than burning books. 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[14:11] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [14:11] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [14:11] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [14:19] TR News Further Suppression of Speech at the EPO Shows That the Current (Recently-Reappointed) Administration Continues to Break the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/nda-culture-at-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/nda-culture-at-epo/ [14:19] TR Bot Further Suppression of Speech at the EPO Shows That the Current (Recently-Reappointed) Administration Continues to Break the Law | Techrights [14:21] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] schestowitz[TR2] I thought he was from TX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Norris [14:21] TR Bot Chuck Norris - Wikipedia [14:21] schestowitz[TR2] Ryan, Oklahoma, [14:22] schestowitz[TR2] Texas Ranger [14:23] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@fkwpyd59ikads.irc) has joined #techrights [14:29] TR News GNOME 43 Feels More Polished With These New Features [First Look] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167451 [14:29] TR Bot GNOME 43 Feels More Polished With These New Features [First Look] | Tux Machines [14:34] TR News [Meme] Mein Kampfinos? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-mein-kampfinos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-mein-kampfinos/ [14:34] TR Bot [Meme] Mein Kampfinos? | Techrights [14:38] TR News Will history repeat itself by year's end? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova#Annexation_by_the_USSR [14:38] TR Bot Moldova - Wikipedia [14:50] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:51] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:53] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:55] *betsy has quit (connection closed) [14:57] *betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:57] TR News Rock 5B RK3588 SBC preview - What works, what doesnt in Debian 11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167452 [14:57] TR Bot Rock 5B RK3588 SBC preview - What works, what doesnt in Debian 11 | Tux Machines [14:57] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167453 [14:57] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [15:04] *betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:22] TR News 3 Most Underrated Linux Distros Deserving More Recognition Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167454 [15:22] TR Bot 3 Most Underrated Linux Distros Deserving More Recognition | Tux Machines [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:31] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:33] TR News SpellBinding: IUMORTL Wordo: SAWED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-07-20.gmi [15:34] TR News "My wife and I had a conversation about what each of us really wanted to do with our lives. What are we passionate about? What roles do we see ourselves playing in the world? Are we interested in doing one thing for the entirety of our professional lives, or are there several things we want to do?" gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202207/20220720-professional-goals.gmi [15:34] SomeH4x0r I want to stay on IRC I guess [15:35] schestowitz[TR2] IRC is better than the copycats of IRC [15:35] SomeH4x0r no idea if I need a wife, or she will annoy me like parents are able to [15:35] schestowitz[TR2] discord, slack, team etc. [15:35] SomeH4x0r or anything/anyone (e.g. pets) else walking around [15:35] schestowitz[TR2] wives can be like that [15:35] schestowitz[TR2] so you need toi find the right person [15:36] schestowitz[TR2] same for pets [15:36] SomeH4x0r I do talk with cuddlybear66 about this stuff sometimes, she also says "need to find a right person", but imho it is too risky [15:36] SomeH4x0r idk how to notice a mistake [15:36] schestowitz[TR2] depends on the age [15:37] SomeH4x0r should younger or older people be preferred? [15:37] schestowitz[TR2] older [15:38] bnchs xmpp seems good [15:38] bnchs it's pretty extendable [15:38] SomeH4x0r she is currently trying IRCCloud, but it won't let her connect to more than two networks. I keep trying to suggest clients. [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_XMPP_clients [15:39] TR Bot Comparison of XMPP clients - Wikipedia [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Clients [15:39] TR Bot Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia [15:39] SomeH4x0r she is on XMPP, I want to bring her to IRC too [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] in the 1990s I met some girld in IM [15:39] schestowitz[TR2] *girls [15:40] schestowitz[TR2] but it's better to first meet in person [15:40] schestowitz[TR2] "irl" [15:40] SomeH4x0r I never expect to meet her irl, I'm in Ukraine and she is in Bulgaria [15:40] schestowitz[TR2] Bulgarian people are nice [15:40] MinceR my brick is willing to enter setup and boot as long as the SSD is not installed [15:41] MinceR uefi is so great and reliable and bug-free. [15:41] MinceR it was totally worth putting an entire OS's worth of bloat into the boot firmware [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] Divorce rates are very high in ukraine [15:42] schestowitz[TR2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_demography [15:42] TR Bot Divorce demography - Wikipedia [15:42] MinceR at least they saved space on things like error checking [15:42] SomeH4x0r I go afk for now [15:44] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: newer is not always better [15:45] MinceR that sounds like heresy [15:48] MinceR i have no idea how much space they saved by checking the boot entries _before_ checking whether the user wants to enter setup, but boy, was it ever worth it. [15:49] MinceR i'm sure hp could have fit an entire little tune to play in the space that was saved [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] if you don't multi-boot, what is even the point? [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] with VMs the concept became more obsolete [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] as you cannot multiboot several OISes at the same time afaik [15:52] MinceR has it really, though? [15:52] schestowitz[TR2] so it's not a good approach [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] except when criminals from Microsoft make life hard [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] and geneticists who are not practising call that "security" [15:53] MinceR with VM-s you'll never find out that NetBSD's support for WiFi interfaces is practically nonexistent [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] netbsd, yes [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] not considered very advanced [15:53] MinceR or that if you plug a SteelSeries Rival 600 USB mouse into it, it will keep attaching and detaching it like a spastic but it will never actually work [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] but small [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] wifi can be malicious [15:53] MinceR or that OpenBSD's network stack goes crazy if you unplug the Ethernet cable [15:53] schestowitz[TR2] any nearby antenna can do things by radio [15:54] schestowitz[TR2] like takie over your machine [15:54] schestowitz[TR2] via the network stack [15:54] schestowitz[TR2] just by bbbeing present [15:54] schestowitz[TR2] no need to plug in wires [15:54] MinceR you can't try out everything in a VM [15:56] MinceR though i suppose rich people could just buy another laptop to try another OS out on [15:56] MinceR but i'm not rich [15:58] MinceR there, i fixed it [15:58] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/253336 [15:58] TR Bot Russia loses second fighter jet in the last three days presumably, a Su-35 taken down by friendly fire [15:58] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/253343 [15:59] TR Bot Lavrov says Russia aims to go beyond Donbass [15:59] MinceR just had to remove the SSD, boot void from a usb flash device, delete the offending boot entry, reinstall the SSD, recreate the boot entry from setup [15:59] MinceR i only had to take the laptop apart several times to solve a problem that wouldn't have existed with BIOS in the first place [15:59] MinceR "modern"! ● Jul 20 [16:00] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/20/a78314 [16:00] TR Bot Russia Sends Army Recruits to Fight in Ukraine After Just Days of Training - The Moscow Times [16:00] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/20/7359104/ [16:00] TR Bot Russia occupiers strike Kharkiv: 3 dead | Ukrainska Pravda [16:01] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: sounds like much time wasted [16:02] MinceR that's what it was [16:02] MinceR and also neurons and money [16:02] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:03] MinceR "modern" technology makes computers so easy to use [16:03] schestowitz[TR2] lol [16:03] bnchs we will have these brainchips [16:03] schestowitz[TR2] nope [16:03] bnchs it will make computers so easy [16:04] schestowitz[TR2] "wqhy would you want to do THAT??" [16:04] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] NSA: make computers easier [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] Microsoft: OK, we'll suck everything into "the clown" [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] NSA: thanks, now we get to data more easily [16:14] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [16:15] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@5j2hsrvteqpeu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:19] TR News The EPOs Local Staff Committee The Hague Cautions About Shortage of Examiners and Growing Pressure on Workers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-breaking-apart/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-breaking-apart/ [16:19] TR Bot The EPOs Local Staff Committee The Hague Cautions About Shortage of Examiners and Growing Pressure on Workers | Techrights [16:22] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [16:25] TR News [Meme] The EPO Circus | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-circus-par-toni/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-circus-par-toni/ [16:25] TR Bot [Meme] The EPO Circus | Techrights [16:31] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] MinceR https://files.catbox.moe/6j8vi6.png [16:31] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/6j8vi6.png ) [16:34] *CrystalMath (~coderain@b4yaq5ykrjn5y.irc) has joined #techrights [16:34] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:35] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [16:45] *XRevan86 can't relate. [16:45] MinceR the human species is working on that [16:48] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [17:16] TR News "Also notice that I try not fall into the trap of trying to stay on topic or have a global theme/motif across my stuff. There are definitely topical themes of math, science philosophy, theology, education, and abstraction across my writings." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-07-20-lizzy.gmi [17:17] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/06/you-know-you-dont-have-to-share-everything-you-see-on-the-internet-7-6-22/ [17:17] TR Bot You Know, You Dont HAVE To Share Everything You See On The Internet (18 Posts) [17:24] TR News Towards a BBS server gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-07-20-bbs.gmi [17:28] *Skywave has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:29] TR News As EPO dictator, Antnio Campinos helps Germany do in Europe what Texas does in the United States http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/meme-mein-kampfinos/ [17:29] TR Bot [Meme] Mein Kampfinos? | Techrights [17:30] TR News The EPOs f***ing president (in his own words) Antnio Campinos goes even further than Benot Battistelli when it comes to gagging staff representatives, albeit the methods vary and are very obviously illegal http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/nda-culture-at-epo/ [17:30] TR Bot Further Suppression of Speech at the EPO Shows That the Current (Recently-Reappointed) Administration Continues to Break the Law | Techrights [17:30] TR News Circus or shitshow suitably describes the state of todays EPO management; with plenty of lawsuits on the horizon (staff against management) outsiders must familiarise themselves with EPO affairs and finally realise that unless matters get rectified, it is a massive deferred liability http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-breaking-apart/ [17:30] TR News : The Benot Battistelli era never really ended; now that many Battistelli policies are declared unlawful (in legally-binding court rulings) it seems clear that Antnio Campinos is only there at the Office to cover up for his old friend and compatriot, Battistelli http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/epo-circus-par-toni/ [17:44] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:57] *britney has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jul 20 [18:00] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [18:00] TR News [Meme] Self Esteem Issues (of Insensitive and Underqualified Leadership) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/antonio-campinos-inferiority-complex/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/antonio-campinos-inferiority-complex/ [18:00] TR Bot [Meme] Self Esteem Issues (of Insensitive and Underqualified Leadership) | Techrights [18:05] *britney (~britney@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights [18:15] TR News Finishing Off Whats Left to Monetise at the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/finishing-off-epo-talent/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/finishing-off-epo-talent/ [18:15] TR Bot Finishing Off Whats Left to Monetise at the EPO | Techrights [18:21] TR News "Did you ever wonder how many bytes a system service is daily receiving from the network? Thanks to systemd, we can easily account this. This guide targets NixOS, but the idea could be applied on any Linux system using systemd." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-service-ip-accounting.gmi [18:21] TR News "I've been working on a Gridmapper edition that doesn't require a browser to run. Now I have a version that needs a Common Lisp to build (I've been using SBCL), plus SDL and Cairo." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-07-20%20Gridmapper%20CL [18:21] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167455 [18:22] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:29] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Manjaro vs. Ubuntu | Tux Machines [18:42] TR News A hackathon for accessible technologies https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/hackathon-accessible-technologies Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/hackathon-accessible-technologies [18:42] TR Bot A hackathon for accessible technologies [18:43] TR News Fedora and Parental Controls - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-36-and-parental-controls/ Source: Fedora | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linuxmagazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fedoramagazine.org/fedora-36-and-parental-controls/ [18:43] TR Bot Fedora and Parental Controls - Fedora Magazine [18:43] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [18:45] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [18:45] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [18:45] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [18:48] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167458 [18:48] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:49] TR News EPO criminals habitually use "diversity" as a smokescreen, as in "sure, we're found guilty of violating human rights all the time...." but look at us, we made a Web page about "I & D" [18:49] TR News Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167459 [18:49] TR Bot Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:49] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:49] TR News Financialization of Europes largest patent office, the European Patent Office (EPO), is already destroying the EPO, at least internally; this isnt sustainable, but those standing to profit from financialization dont care (they only look a few years ahead) http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/finishing-off-epo-talent/ [18:50] TR News As the EPO s f***ing president (in his own words), Antnio Campinos compensates for his incompetence by threatening staff and adopting menacing policies http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/antonio-campinos-inferiority-complex/ [18:50] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [18:50] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/07/dhs-bought-shocking-amount-of-warrantless-phone-tracking-data-aclu-says/ [18:50] TR Bot DHS bought shocking amount of warrantless phone-tracking data, ACLU says [Updated] | Ars Technica [18:50] schestowitz[TR2] DHS [18:50] schestowitz[TR2] maybe they can catch more editors at ars technica [18:50] schestowitz[TR2] screwing little kids [18:51] schestowitz[TR2] while posting fake articles for Bill Gatges [18:53] TR News Even an org that 100% women... if it bombs people, or helps bomb people... or profits from bombing people, I don't care for it. 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Money in the FSFE's coffers can do harm: http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/ [19:48] TR News Save 23,265 with one weird trick! - Oli Warner https://thepcspy.com/read/ten-years-23k-saved/ Source: thepcspy | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thepcspy.com/read/ten-years-23k-saved/ [19:48] TR Bot Save 23,265 with one weird trick! - Oli Warner [19:52] TR News Securing Containers At Scale - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/securing-containers-at-scale/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/securing-containers-at-scale/ [19:52] TR Bot Securing Containers At Scale - Container Journal [19:53] TR News Windows has back doors as a ramp, Linux hasn't; but this is an attempt to give an illusion of parity, courtesy of a Microsoft boosting site https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-luna-ransomware-encrypts-windows-linux-and-esxi-systems/ [19:53] TR Bot New Luna ransomware encrypts Windows, Linux, and ESXi systems [19:53] *acer-box has quit (Connection closed) [19:53] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [19:54] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [19:54] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [19:56] TR News Yocto Project gets big backer and second LTS release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167461 [19:56] TR Bot Yocto Project gets big backer and second LTS release | Tux Machines [19:56] TR News Tavis Ormandy ports WordPerfect for UNIX to Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167462 [19:56] TR Bot Tavis Ormandy ports WordPerfect for UNIX to Linux | Tux Machines [19:57] TR News Top 5 Open Source Web Browsers - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_JO72OppVf0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/_JO72OppVf0 [19:57] TR Bot Top 5 Open Source Web Browsers - Invidious [19:57] TR News Stop using APT - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oroSkR4Nn_w | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/oroSkR4Nn_w [19:57] TR Bot Stop using APT - Invidious [19:59] TR News Petros has just discredited his project. Microsoft proprietary software won't improve legitimacy https://koutoupis.com/2022/07/20/the-rapiddisk-org-linkedin-project-page/ [19:59] TR Bot The RapidDisk.Org LinkedIn Project Page Random [Tech] Stuff ● Jul 20 [20:02] TR News Ranger: Terminal File Manager inspired by VIM for Linux - TREND OCEANS https://trendoceans.com/ranger-terminal-file-manager/ Source: trendoceans | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//trendoceans.com/ranger-terminal-file-manager/ [20:02] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://trendoceans.com/ranger-terminal-file-manager/ ) [20:15] TR News We're Back to 1,000+ COVID-19 Deaths Per Week, Reports About Excess Mortality Suddenly Stop https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/20/july-covid-mortality/ [20:15] TR Bot Blog Archive Were Back to 1,000+ COVID-19 Deaths Per Week, Reports About Excess Mortality Suddenly Stop [20:15] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [20:17] TR News 9/11 attacks killed almost 3,000 people (not counting how many people Bliar and Bush murdered "in response" to 9/11). COVID-19 STILL kills about 4,000 Brits PER MONTH. [20:18] TR News btrfs in next Linux https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kdave/linux.git/log/?h=for-5.20 [20:18] TR Bot kernel/git/kdave/linux.git - Btrfs kernel development [20:19] TR News So run 100 of these chips in parallel, Michael. Or ask AMD for another 100. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-zen1-retbleed&num=1 [20:19] TR Bot Zen 1 Linux Performance Hit From Retbleed, Accumulated CPU Mitigation Impact - Phoronix [20:20] TR News [Hardware defects, NOT Linux issue] Retbleed Fixed in Linux Kernel, Patch Delayed https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/retbleed-fixed-in-linux-kernel-patch-delayed Source: darkreading | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.darkreading.com/application-security/retbleed-fixed-in-linux-kernel-patch-delayed [20:20] TR Bot Retbleed Fixed in Linux Kernel, Patch Delayed [20:23] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/funny-pictures-7-5-22-7.jpg [20:25] britney https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/reptilian-agenda.html [20:25] TR Bot Cerberus Investigations [20:26] britney a new article has been published [20:26] MinceR "All ss-stand ss-still. Sss-sorlag kill quick. No much pain. Sss-sorlag promissse." [20:26] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@g64i3ftapqr3g.irc) has joined #techrights [20:26] britney the reptile agenda is to make the planet warmer because reptiles like warm weather [20:26] britney and [20:27] britney to put bugs in our food because they enjoy eating crickets [20:27] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167463 [20:27] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167464 [20:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:28] XRevan86 the reptile agenda is to make the planet greeber because reptiles like clean air [20:29] MinceR "Is you tasty, britney? Us-sss find out soon." [20:29] britney to be perfectly honest, i want to try some of this cricket based food for myself [20:30] schestowitz[TR2] satirists pretending to be for real [20:30] MinceR it's probably not as good as crustaceans [20:30] britney lobster sounds so good right now [20:30] MinceR :) [20:31] TR News Genders are not the same. Different sexes, different physical traits and mindsets. So when do you achieve gender parity in nursing? https://www.fosslife.org/global-progress-toward-gender-parity-has-stalled [20:31] TR Bot Global Progress Toward Gender Parity Has Stalled [20:31] MinceR "Sss-sorg Reptiloid not Amiphibian." [20:31] XRevan86 the reptile agenda is to reduce crime on the street because reptiles don't have good arm strength [20:32] TR News World Economic Forum (WEF) = a bunch of sociopathic MEN pretending to care about gender equality. Also, the most infamous among the WEF MEN, Bill Gates, helped Esptein traffic little girls for SEX. [20:32] XRevan86 "upper body strength" is better probably. [20:33] earthling if amphibian frogs were turned gay by the illuminati, how could they have evolved into reptilians? [20:33] TR News Maybe one say corporations will add "DO NOT BOMB" Web pages like they do with "Diversity and Inclusion"? Naaa... bombing is BIG BUSINESS. [20:33] XRevan86 the reptile agenda is to make a biolab-enhanced bird army to improve employment rates of their avian brethren. [20:33] britney earthling, they weren't turned gay by the illuminati [20:34] britney the freemasons made the frogs gay as an attack against the reptilians [20:34] britney its neanderthal vs reptilian [20:34] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I don't know crypto managed to "stabilize" recently, as in not losing even more. [20:34] TR News Elitists sociopaths do NOT care about WOMEN! http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/ [20:34] TR Bot Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel | Techrights [20:34] DaemonFC Everyone knows more big rate hikes are coming. [20:34] DaemonFC Why wait to sell? [20:34] *spazzz is now known as spazz [20:35] DaemonFC There are still some "mining companies" out there that are going for it, even at these rates. They already have the liabilities (machines to do it with). [20:35] DaemonFC I suppose their line of thinking is mine some and sell them while there's some thin profit to be had. [20:35] DaemonFC Because soon there won't be. [20:35] DaemonFC Buying time until the thing just gives up and collapses entirely. [20:35] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI [20:35] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI [20:35] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | placeboing | Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX) | Extended / Perfect Loop - Invidious [20:36] DaemonFC Better make sure those passports are current. :) [20:36] TR News Linux Foundation... Microsoft.. GREENWASH https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/os-climate-unleashes-power-of-open-source-to-develop-data-and-tools-required-to-meet-the-paris-climate-goals/ see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [20:36] TR Bot OS-Climate unleashes power of open source to develop data and tools required to meet the Paris climate goals - Linux Foundation [20:36] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [20:36] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Logic dictates that Stallman is fairly racist. [20:37] schestowitz[TR2] okj, examples...? [20:37] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: you calling pople racist is... something [20:37] DaemonFC I demonstrated how the State of Illinois uses gun laws that are rooted in the NRA trying to prevent black Communists from legally carrying, such as the FOID Act, to prosecute mostly black people who didn't mean any harm. [20:37] DaemonFC They went after a guy who had a FOID card because he had to drive for Uber and didn't have enough money to keep renewing his CCL. [20:38] DaemonFC So they busted him on felony not having a CCL and now Uber "fired" him and he can't even work at Taco Bell. [20:38] DaemonFC And he only barely escaped prison and he doesn't know what he's going to do. [20:38] DaemonFC He's a Navy veteran. [20:39] DaemonFC I showed that article to Stallman, how the Cook County State's Attorney is vicious against black people who carry guns, but only ones like him. [20:39] DaemonFC I laid out a case for how and why the FOID Card law failed. [20:39] DaemonFC I pointed out how criminals are, in fact, emboldened by it, because they know none of their victims will be armed. [20:40] DaemonFC Nobody could stop Robert Crimo III, but in an attempted mass shooting in Indiana a few days ago, at a mall, a person who was lawfully open carrying shot and killed the attacker, who was armed with "several guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition" within "15 seconds" of the gunman opening fire. [20:41] DaemonFC It was only due to the man who was legally carrying that the shooter didn't manage to kill dozens more people, and stopped at 3. [20:41] DaemonFC But in Illinois, you can't go out and do anything, because the criminals always attack wherever you are at, because they know nobody in the crowd has a FOID and CCL and that "guns are banned" at the event. Everyone except the bad guy. [20:42] DaemonFC I told Mandy we couldn't go watch the fireworks because "something will happen, like it always does, because it's Illinois" and then we weren't in the crowd when Crimo attacked. [20:42] DaemonFC Because I'm not a psychic. I just know that every year something happens because of fucking idiots like the Democrats who run this place. [20:43] DaemonFC They never learn. Every July 4th, there's an incident, and nobody can shoot back and kill the guy and the police come and collect the bodies. [20:43] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:43] DaemonFC And then it's all yada yada "Aren't you glad this is the greatest state in America where the police response time was only 45 minutes?". [20:44] DaemonFC Mandy and I nearly got trampled. It was like a wave of bodies coming towards us, July 4th, 2019, Navy Pier, Chicago. [20:44] DaemonFC Some juvenile delinquents threw fireworks into the crowd. [20:44] DaemonFC People got trampled. Nobody died, but there were broken bones and shit. [20:45] DaemonFC I grabbed Mandy by the shirt collar and tossed him behind a hamburger stand because I knew it would break up the crowd and force them to run around it. [20:45] DaemonFC He didn't know how fucked up this country is because he'd only been here about a year and a half. [20:46] DaemonFC But I knew when I heard "pop pop pop pop pop" and saw a wave of people running towards us that it was probably a shooting. [20:46] schestowitz[TR2] you are talking nonsene now [20:46] schestowitz[TR2] people who oppose NRA agenda are not racist [20:46] schestowitz[TR2] the opposite can be said [20:46] DaemonFC Stupid cunt prosecutor Kim Foxx, Democrat, filed misdemeanor disorderly conduct as juvenile offenses. [20:47] DaemonFC And of course nothing happened to them because they're always like 17 and 10 months and by the tim the court gets to them it's like "Okay, go get your GED and pay a $200 fine! NEXT!" [20:47] DaemonFC And it's not even on their criminal record. [20:47] DaemonFC people who oppose NRA agenda are not racist [20:47] DaemonFC Oh, Stallman is a racist who supports the NRA agenda. [20:48] TR News Planet Mozilla running Apple 'ads' today. How telling... [20:48] DaemonFC THe NRA lobbied FOR the FOID Act, and it continues doing now what it did in 1968 when they asked for it. [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] RMS does not support RMS agenda [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] stop it, you're aging like SJVN [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/ [20:48] TR Bot One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] saying that RMS supported Epstein [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] *NSA agenda [20:49] DaemonFC Keeping guns away from black people. Not criminals obviously. It just lets police officers go after them indiscriminately even when they've done nothing wrong, and those are usually the only ones with anything to lose because they have no priors when they're 48 years old and working for Uber. [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] *NRA [20:49] DaemonFC Criminals don't care. They don't usually live to 48 and if they do, their rap sheet goes on for 10 pages. [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, it is off topic [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] you try to make it about RMS [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] and call him names [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] based on a lie [20:50] DaemonFC The NRA was stuffed full of KKK members who didn't want black people to have guns. So they lobbied for gun control laws, which is why we have them. [20:50] DaemonFC Today, the NRA is not a racist organization. It opposes the laws that left this man unemployable. This poor man who was just trying to survive his shifts at Uber under Biden's dead dead economy. [20:51] DaemonFC https://www.injusticewatch.org/news/police-and-prosecutors/2022/gun-possession-grand-jury/ [20:51] TR Bot Almost all Cook County gun cases now go to grand juries | Injustice Watch [20:51] DaemonFC The Illinois FOID Act and Gun Control Act of 1968 is a law that the KKK asked for, passed, and it continues to get worse to this day. [20:51] TR News "When sending a new PCB to a manufacturer, you may be confused about the number of options and settings required to produce it. For beginners, and guide to PCB manufacturing options may help in defining the settings to get your Printed Circuit Board produced" https://peppe8o.com/ordering-your-pcb-a-beginners-guide-for-manufacturer-options/ [20:51] TR Bot Ordering your PCB: a Beginners Guide for Manufacturer Options [20:52] DaemonFC Because they were terrified that black people would legally carry guns. [20:52] DaemonFC And they wanted a law that would allow the police to throw the kitchen sink at them if they tried to. [20:52] DaemonFC By defending the FOID Act, Stallman is supporting a law that has its roots in an era when the NRA was a subsidiary of the Klan. [20:53] DaemonFC Perhaps he does this unwittingly, not knowing American history very well. [20:53] DaemonFC I certainly hope ignorance is all that is. [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] many peoplewant to curb mass shooting [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] this is one approach [20:53] DaemonFC Most people have no idea what was happening in 1968 because it was so long ago. [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] but anyway [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] why bring it here? [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] you just try to accuse others of racism [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] to excuse your own racism [20:54] DaemonFC I'm really angry that things like this have so many supporters among people who say they want a more egalitarian society. [20:54] DaemonFC And especially among, like, you know, people with a Computer Science background. [20:54] schestowitz[TR2] you should not have a firearm either [20:54] schestowitz[TR2] you lost your right to one [20:54] schestowitz[TR2] for a plethora of reasons [20:54] DaemonFC Who should know better. Who should use some of that money and study what happened in the Jim Crow era and how the FOID Act is an outgrowth of that. [20:55] DaemonFC I sued and got it back. [20:55] DaemonFC Because there's no legal reason they could come up with to continue to revoke it. [20:55] DaemonFC So they lost. In court. Where we went. [20:55] DaemonFC :) [20:56] DaemonFC I sued the Commissioner of the Illinois State Police in Lake County district court. [20:56] TR News Newly Released Cat Game 'STRAY' Works Pretty Good on Linux - It's FOSS News https://news.itsfoss.com/stray-linux/ Source: news | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.itsfoss.com/stray-linux/ [20:56] TR Bot Newly Released Cat Game 'STRAY' Works Pretty Good on Linux - It's FOSS News [20:57] DaemonFC The prosecutor had a chance to argue, and told the judge that there was no legal argument, so they chose not to fight it. The State Police had someone on a conference call that said that they had no objection. [20:57] schestowitz[TR2] I've know you online since 2008 [20:57] schestowitz[TR2] I'd not testify in favour of you having even a lousy little pistol [20:57] DaemonFC Well, you weren't part of the proceedings. [20:57] DaemonFC A character reference is not something that you need to get a FOID Card. [20:57] DaemonFC They can't even consider one. [20:58] DaemonFC Like, if my own mother wrote the State Police, then they'd throw the letter in the trash. [20:58] TR News LOL!!! Microsoft is COPYING the competition, media pretends it's new: "Microsoft Teams will soon let you collaboratively edit Excel spreadsheets in meetings" [20:58] DaemonFC She'd have to file a Red Flag case against me in court in the county I live in, then we'd have a trial, and the judge would throw the whole thing out for lack of evidence that I was any sort of clear and present danger. [20:58] DaemonFC Then I'd sue her for all kinds of reasons, including harassment. [20:59] DaemonFC And force her into another bankruptcy. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] TR News No, this is just the effect of major blowback https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-store-u-turn-open-source/ [20:59] TR Bot Microsoft changes its mind about open source monetization | PC Gamer [20:59] DaemonFC Oh let's see. Harassment, emotional distress, actual damages (expenses for having to go to court and bring an attorney), expenses for having to sue her as punishment for bringing a frivolous legal action against me. ● Jul 20 [21:00] DaemonFC I mean, it would just go on and on. [21:00] DaemonFC And then I'd go serve it on her employer and force her into retirement where the only income I couldn't attach to isn't enough to live on anyway. [21:01] DaemonFC She would rue the day that she ever tried that shit. [21:02] schestowitz[TR2] anyway, back ti tech pls [21:02] DaemonFC Anyway, Red Flag laws are bullshit too. [21:02] TR News UK gov. Web sites hide data https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/20/july-covid-mortality/ [21:02] TR Bot Blog Archive Were Back to 1,000+ COVID-19 Deaths Per Week, Reports About Excess Mortality Suddenly Stop [21:03] TR News Proxmox VE - How to build an Ubuntu 22.04 Template (Updated Method) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MJgIm03Jxdo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MJgIm03Jxdo [21:03] TR Bot Proxmox VE - How to build an Ubuntu 22.04 Template (Updated Method) - Invidious [21:03] DaemonFC They're like restraining orders. They just piss the person, who still has their guns, off. Not good. Many people don't file restraining orders because you have to incite the recipient to anger that they got one and they're probably armed, and now they know where you live and work and go to the grocery store at, and where you pick your kids up. I mean, this is just an example of how the legal system works. Or rather, doesn't. [21:03] DaemonFC They get one of these things, if they really are a nutcase, you've made them more dangerous. [21:04] TR News KDE neon 20220714 overview | The latest and greatest of KDE community - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mYMrgdqg2VE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/mYMrgdqg2VE [21:04] TR Bot KDE neon 20220714 overview | The latest and greatest of KDE community - Invidious [21:04] DaemonFC Then 7 months after you file for a restraining order and send them over the edge, the State Police get around to revoking their FOID card. [21:04] TR News openSUSE Leap 15.4 Review : The PRO Linux Distro For ADVANCED Users (NEW!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_Yt37Rgq7h4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/_Yt37Rgq7h4 [21:04] TR Bot openSUSE Leap 15.4 Review : The PRO Linux Distro For ADVANCED Users (NEW!) - Invidious [21:04] DaemonFC Very helpful! [21:05] DaemonFC This is how tragedies happen, schestowitz[TR2] [21:05] TR News Music Partner???? Sweatshop product sold for ~100 times its production cost. Stupid gimmick. https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/apple/are-airpod-pros-waterproof-learn-the-truth-about-your-music-partner/ [21:05] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/apple/are-airpod-pros-waterproof-learn-the-truth-about-your-music-partner/ ) [21:05] DaemonFC The divorce lawyer is all like "Get a restraining order! Get a restraining order! We'll say you're afraid of him! You'll get all his money, the house, the kids!". [21:06] DaemonFC The lawyer is giving bad advice. So what, to him, if 1 out of 500 men who get the restraining order, snap, and turn into a family annihilator? [21:06] DaemonFC 499 times out of 500, he gets more money! [21:06] TR News xkcd: Chemicals https://xkcd.com/2648 Source: xkcd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2648 [21:06] TR Bot Chemicals [21:07] DaemonFC More often than not though, the campaign of harassment, of legal terrorism, that women engage in using the divorce courts, ends with the man walking in front of the Metra train. [21:08] DaemonFC And nobody cares. The news doesn't say "Here's another vicious gold digger that drove a good man to kill himself.". It says, "Metra strikes pedestrian. Trains delayed four hours while the coroner gets out there.". [21:09] TR News Threats or theatres? https://www.ubuntupit.com/25-most-common-iot-security-threats-in-an-increasingly-connected-world/ [21:09] TR Bot 25 Most Common IoT Security Threats in an Increasingly Connected World [21:09] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: back to then, please [21:09] schestowitz[TR2] (tech then [21:10] earthling schestowitz[TR2]: why isn't this channel renamed to #DaemonFC-24/7 [21:10] schestowitz[TR2] good point [21:10] schestowitz[TR2] he's bored today [21:10] earthling he is. always [21:10] schestowitz[TR2] mandaedom diaries [21:10] schestowitz[TR2] earthling: sometimes he is offline :D [21:10] DaemonFC The FOID Act is becoming almost indecipherable anyways. They can't decide if they want my fingerprints or not, which they already have. [21:10] earthling there isn't a single day without DaemonFC flooding [21:11] DaemonFC They mailed me two cards apparently, which have not arrived yet, when I already have one that is active. [21:11] DaemonFC These people are STUPID. [21:11] schestowitz[TR2] earthling: sometimes he'd detained for a while [21:11] schestowitz[TR2] DaemonFC: can we get back to tech? [21:11] schestowitz[TR2] you can use other channels [21:12] DaemonFC I'm waiting on them to process my CCL license. Of course they've broken their own law, again. [21:12] DaemonFC THey said 30 days if you submit fingerprints, 60 days if you don't. So far we're on day 87 out of 30. [21:12] DaemonFC Even though their Firearms Services portal says Fingerprints Accepted. [21:12] DaemonFC And gave me a confirmation number. [21:13] TR News Ewww.... sigstore, restricting what software you can and CANNOT run on YOUR system https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/patrick-debois-untold-stories-of-open-source/ [21:13] TR Bot Patrick Debois: Untold Stories of Open Source - Linux Foundation [21:13] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Here's something tech for you. [21:13] DaemonFC It says don't apply for a FOID card or CCL on your phone's browser or that could cause a rejection. [21:13] DaemonFC :) [21:13] TR News 'Linux' Foundation uses the word "SysAdmin" https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/find-your-way-to-a-strong-sysadmin-team/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/17/we-are-the-windows-powered-linux-foundation/ [21:13] TR Bot Find Your Way to a Strong SysAdmin Team - Linux Foundation [21:14] TR Bot Linux Foundation Apparently Celebrates Sysadmin Day With a Microsoft Windows Site! | Techrights [21:14] DaemonFC I love the second amendment. The right to bear arms, unless you apply for it on a mobile phone. [21:14] MinceR https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/kVVJdAl [21:14] TR Bot An assortment of medical puns. Please be...patient. - rimgo [21:14] DaemonFC I learned that in school! [21:15] DaemonFC Their Web site is a janky piece of shit. It probably went out to whatever contractor sent Madigan a pie with the most $100s in it. [21:15] TR News Get started with OpenShift Service Registry | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/11/get-started-openshift-service-registry Source: developers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/11/get-started-openshift-service-registry [21:15] TR Bot Get started with OpenShift Service Registry | Red Hat Developer [21:17] DaemonFC Of course, calling their phone number to ask about your FOID card, you have to hear about COVID-19. [21:17] DaemonFC Loki voice: "I HAVE BEEN LISTENING ABOUT COVID-19 for THIRTY MINUTES!" [21:20] TR News Cockpit 273 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167465 [21:20] TR Bot Cockpit 273 | Tux Machines [21:20] TR News Videos: openSUSE Leap, KDE neon, Proxmox VE, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167466 [21:20] TR Bot Videos: openSUSE Leap, KDE neon, Proxmox VE, and More | Tux Machines [21:22] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2] argues that under a state that alleges rule of law and equality of law, that when I win in court....it's "Oh, but you shouldn't be allowed to win.". [21:24] DaemonFC It's incoherent. It's like Donald Trump arguing that we should have an election and then when he loses, we shouldn't have had one because it was always corrupt and a ploy to cheat him. [21:25] DaemonFC Every election has the other side screaming that they were cheated. [21:25] schestowitz[TR2] you are still off topic [21:25] TR News Linux Foundation and Microsoft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167467 [21:25] TR Bot Linux Foundation and Microsoft | Tux Machines [21:25] DaemonFC I remember the Democrats arguing in 2000, 2004, and 2016, that Bush and Trump couldn't have possibly won the election. [21:26] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167468 [21:26] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:26] DaemonFC They engaged in a campaign in 2000 to "find more votes" and make them be for Al Gore, even if they weren't for Al Gore and were void under state law. [21:26] TR News Links 20/07/2022: Cockpit 273 and Qt Creator 8 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/20/cockpit-273/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/20/cockpit-273/ [21:26] DaemonFC Then in 2004 they said that there were "irregularities with the machines in Ohio" and that it was impossible that Bush won in Ohio, because someone must have tampered with them and brought in fake ballots using trucks. [21:26] TR Bot Links 20/07/2022: Cockpit 273 and Qt Creator 8 | Techrights [21:27] DaemonFC Then in 2016, they argued that Russia got involved and "tricked" people into not liking....wait for it....Hillary fucking Clinton. [21:27] DaemonFC Putin used his mind control laser on the moon to cause them to not like Hillary Clinton and not vote. [21:28] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167469 [21:28] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:28] DaemonFC And in 2000, 2004, and 2016, some Congressional Democrats tried to interrupt the Electoral Count and refuse to certify the election results. [21:29] DaemonFC So essentially, you have almost everything that was in the "Biden stole the election" conspiracy, except for an incumbent president urging his supporters to go to the Capital and break some glass. [21:29] DaemonFC Then after 20 years of this shit, they're surprised that the Republicans picked up on those conspiracy theories and accused Biden of it. [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-19.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-20.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] DaemonFC The Democrats spent twenty years trying to sabotage and undermine and destroy faith in our election system. [21:30] DaemonFC Then they were shocked when Trump picked up their playbook and ran with it. [21:31] DaemonFC That's what they count on. People having short memories. The Democrats trying to interrupt the Electoral Count is all on tape, three times. [21:32] DaemonFC MinceR, The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.....except when there is an internal server error due to this aspx application. [21:32] DaemonFC -Illinois State Police reading the Constitution [21:35] DaemonFC Pursuant only to whether the mailman feels like putting your FOID card in the right mailbox on the correct street that day, the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed. [21:36] *SomeH4x0r has quit (connection closed) [21:36] DaemonFC https://www.injusticewatch.org/news/2022/cook-county-sheriff-primary-election-2022/ [21:36] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@udrhdefbtjdvk.irc) has joined #techrights [21:36] TR Bot Tens of thousands of voters mistakenly cast ballots for two Cook County sheriffs candidates thrown out of the race | Injustice Watch [21:36] DaemonFC The Democrats know how to run free and fair elections. :) [21:37] DaemonFC Like that time we voted to term limit the mayor of Chicago, and they successfully replaced the question with a non-binding referendum about single use plastic straws, which also passed, and then nobody banned those. [21:38] DaemonFC If they want to talk about faith in the system, they should do something to inspire faith in the system instead of suing people to stop their vote from being counted, and putting fake candidates on the ballot, etc. [21:39] DaemonFC "Incumbent Sheriff Tom Dart won handily." [21:39] DaemonFC Dart is one of the reasons it's almost impossible to get an apartment in Chicago. [21:40] DaemonFC The landlords won't rent to anyone who looks like they even "might" be trouble, because Dart frequently refuses to enforce eviction orders that the courts have already granted, for years, while tenants you mistakenly moved in tear the place up and continue to not pay their rent. [21:40] DaemonFC So the process of getting an apartment is very very slow because they call all your references, they run your credit, they check multiple criminal backgrounds, they check to see if you've ever filed bankruptcy before. [21:41] DaemonFC The end result is you can't get out of the ghetto and good luck even staying there.... When the mjg59_s want it, they'll get it. They'll just start putting in Whole Foods on every corner and offering people 3 times what the place is worth, and by that time they've had the cops refusing to police the neighborhood for so long that people take the check and get out. [21:42] DaemonFC Lori Lightfoot turned out to be black Rahm Emanuel, to absolutely nobody's surprise. [21:43] DaemonFC That's why her strongest performance was in white neighborhoods. They wanted to show how "progressive" they are, but at the same time, they just wanted a new face on the same friendly service. [21:43] DaemonFC Speaking of Rahm, I hear he's doing quite well for himself in Japan. They LIKE him. [21:44] DaemonFC Maybe they can keep him when Biden is over with in a year or two. [21:44] DaemonFC He can just ride the trains around and bow at people. They can keep making memes. [21:44] DaemonFC Everyone wins. We don't get him back.... [21:44] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], Stallman posted complaints about America's rail network. [21:45] DaemonFC It's not really the fault of "America" that his state officials can't plan worth a shit. [21:45] DaemonFC Have you seen the public transit system in New York City? No planning at all there. I know Stallman lives in Boston or something, but still, it's all the same types. They don't have a very good system either. [21:46] DaemonFC But they tax and tax and where does it go? It's worse than Illinois. [21:46] DaemonFC At least Illinois actually does spend my RTA tax on the RTA and the Metra runs on time unless someone kills themselves with it due to the FOID Act. [21:48] DaemonFC States with tough gun laws don't have "no suicide". Japan is so tough on guns, and the funny part is they're all like "Oh look how tough on guns we are!". So they get stabbings, and someone figured out how to shoot Shinzo Abe despite the strict gun laws because they.....made a gun themselves. Then there's the suicide forest. I mean it's not funny, it's tragic. It's only funny in the ironic sense that people can see that and conclude that tough [21:48] DaemonFC gun laws mean no violent crime, no rapes, no muggings, no suicide. [21:49] DaemonFC And the whole reason it looks like Japan doesn't have much violent crime is because they have something like the NYPD's policy of making it tough and not worth it to successfully file a police report. [21:50] DaemonFC The Waukegan police try to close out violent crime reports quickly and by framing people. [21:51] DaemonFC Either they'll beat a confession out of the first vaguely black person they find, or they'll find some black kid and tell him he gets McDonalds and to go home if he confesses. They reckon that the kid's stupid. In at least one case, the kid wasn't stupid. I mean, it takes a tough person to hold out under that kind of stress. I don't know how a 14 year old kid managed. [21:51] DaemonFC They're in there beating alleged confessions out of Mexican immigrants who don't speak a word of English, yet they have a signed confession, and there aren't even any punctuation errors. [21:51] DaemonFC It's all rather convenient. [21:52] DaemonFC And Roy is saying that because these people accused me of something, that I should lose my rights as a citizen forever and always. [21:53] DaemonFC They go around inventing crime and pretending to solve crime. That's what makes them dangerous. [21:53] MinceR 20 223248 < DaemonFC> MinceR, The right to bear arms shall not be infringed..... [21:53] MinceR ...except all the time [21:53] DaemonFC You should treat the police hovering around you like a grenade in your back pocket. [21:53] DaemonFC Never knowing when, exactly, it's going to go off. [21:54] DaemonFC ...except all the time [21:54] DaemonFC You filled this out using Firefox on Linux. Our shitty Web app only recognizes Internet Explorer Mode on Windows 11. [21:54] DaemonFC DENIED [21:54] DaemonFC "Processing.....don't push any buttons.....or else." [21:55] DaemonFC The Medicaid renewal site works this way too. [21:55] DaemonFC They don't have to care. They're the government. [21:55] DaemonFC If it crashes, kicks you out and denies your civil rights, not their problem. [21:55] DaemonFC Meanwhile, some greasy government contractor with their finger in the pie got paid to write this shit. [21:56] DaemonFC Half the time I can't pay my electric bill and have to try later because their Azure Web site crashed. [21:56] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I went back to a paper bill and writing my credit card number on it and mailing it back to them. [21:56] DaemonFC This is ridiculous. [21:58] DaemonFC MinceR, So Quest Diagnostics. [21:58] DaemonFC Their billing department is ran by Satan. [21:58] DaemonFC Ever since they ignored my bankruptcy and kept trying to bill me, and then only stopped when I got the Attorney General involved, and notified them I planned to notify the Trustee and sue them. [21:59] DaemonFC I have been waiting to pay my lab bill until it threatens to turn me over to collections. [21:59] DaemonFC They send you like 8 letters and the last one warns you that you're about to be sent to a collection agency. ● Jul 20 [22:00] DaemonFC So each time I owe them $15-20 for something, I make them spent $10 of it trying to get the payment, and then send it to them over their Web site. [22:02] DaemonFC So $10 worth of mail and 8 months later, they finally get the co-pay for that lab visit and I've had the money in my interest-bearing account the entire time and I just log in and pay the ones that say final notice. [22:02] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:03] MinceR > Internet Explorer Mode on Windows 11. [22:03] MinceR does that still exist? [22:05] MinceR (cat) (audio:music) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/rlpvjZX / https://i.imgur.com/wWdUxnP.mp4 [22:05] TR Bot . - rimgo [22:05] DaemonFC Internet Explorer is still there. It doesn't run as an application, but you still could make a browser that loads Trident and browse with it, or force a site into Trident in Edge. [22:05] DaemonFC You can force a site into Trident in Edge manually. [22:05] MinceR :> [22:05] DaemonFC Internet Explorer is not gone. [22:06] MinceR as expected from the lying sacks of scum in redmond [22:06] DaemonFC They've removed the part called Internet Explorer, but everything else is there. 99.9% of it is still there. [22:07] DaemonFC You can't install Netscape Navigator/Communicator on Windows 11. [22:07] DaemonFC The installers were 16-bit and it won't run them, even though the browser itself was 32-bit. [22:08] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@62ibinkdp82y8.irc) has joined #techrights [22:10] DaemonFC schestowitz[TR2], I'm going to try to set up SeaMonkey and review the latest version. [22:10] earthling it's all rustified now [22:10] earthling that's why i quit maintaining a patched ebuild for this [22:10] DaemonFC So far the problem appears to be that it doesn't have a straightforward way to migrate saved passwords from Firefox into SeaMonkey, but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't. [22:11] earthling why would you store any passwords with firefox? that's stupid. [22:11] earthling and, here is another one, the best "password safe" ever: vim -x [22:11] DaemonFC It's not Firefox. It's LibreWolf. [22:11] DaemonFC They have the same password format for storing them. [22:12] DaemonFC You can back them up and restore them into a fresh profile. [22:12] DaemonFC Without using Firefox Sync. [22:12] earthling so what... same shit, different flag sticked into [22:12] DaemonFC Not exactly. [22:12] earthling wrong [22:12] DaemonFC They neuter the telemetry, pocket, and spam bullshit. [22:12] earthling it's all full of shit regardless [22:13] earthling try to disable WASM for example... and see what remains [22:13] earthling DaemonFC: does LibreWolf disable WASM by default? [22:14] DaemonFC No. I don't believe so. [22:14] DaemonFC I'm not trying to trash the Web sites I use. [22:14] earthling ok. i mean, do what you want, it is what it is. [22:15] earthling no need to trash what's trash [22:15] DaemonFC I just don't want that yucky SJW crap hitting me in the face every time I open a fucking Web browser. [22:15] psydroid2 so apparently this is a thing now [22:15] psydroid2 https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/w22mvg/arch_linux_arm_iso_on_x13s_wip/ [22:15] TR Bot Arch Linux ARM ISO on X13s (WIP) : thinkpad [22:16] MinceR 20 231117 < earthling> why would you store any passwords with firefox? that's stupid. [22:16] psydroid2 Windows on that device is dead before it has even arrived [22:16] MinceR some passwords aren't worth much [22:16] earthling even if, it's a matter of principle [22:17] MinceR for example, you might have a password to a webshop that they sent in cleartext in e-mail [22:17] earthling a passowrd store doesn't belong into a malware execution runtime that is firefox and clones [22:17] bagira eh [22:17] bagira SJWs really aren't a problem. Even in F/OSS. The problem is malignant narcissists hiding behind SJW sentiments. [22:18] DaemonFC I need to clean out my bookmarks. [22:18] DaemonFC I have things like when I went shopping for car tires for the Impala more than 3 years ago. [22:19] DaemonFC I don't especially like the tires on the Buick, but they have so much treadlife left on them that I suppose I'll just run them down and replace them when that becomes an issue. [22:19] DaemonFC I've had better cheap tires than this. [22:19] DaemonFC If I had to do it now, today, absolutely could not wait another minute, I'd probably get a nice pair of "fuel saving" tires and see if I could improve the gas mileage a bit. [22:20] DaemonFC But 1-2% fuel savings isn't worth the cost of replacing a set of tires there's nothing wrong with, just for that. [22:20] *psydroid2 wonders where the subject of malignant narcissists hiding behind SJW sentiments came from [22:20] DaemonFC California mandates fuel saving tires. [22:20] earthling DaemonFC: this is all interesting, however, why distract from firefox? [22:20] earthling don't appreciate the idea it is malware? [22:20] DaemonFC It's one of the few laws they've passed that pertains to vehicles, which actually makes some sense. [22:20] britney DaemonFC, https://imgur.com/a/m0kfEqM [22:20] TR Bot The magic of the Internet [22:21] earthling he, DaemonFC, among others, always does this, whenever some facts smash into the channel, he quickly proceeds with some off-topic flooding the backlog [22:22] earthling is this some method? [22:22] psydroid2 we all know firefox is malware [22:22] DaemonFC Ah, back to SeaMonkey. [22:22] DaemonFC I definitely prefer it. [22:22] psydroid2 so let's hope mozilla dies a painful death [22:22] DaemonFC I wish they'd make SeaTab-X official. [22:22] DaemonFC I mean, how much harder could it be to merge and maintain that than what they already do? [22:23] DaemonFC The add-ons site warned me SeaTab-X-2 was not compatible with the version of SeaMonkey I have, but then I hit install anyway and it works. [22:23] DaemonFC It's a pretty simple add-on. All it does is add close buttons to the individual tabs. [22:24] DaemonFC They finally got ChatZilla working again. They're adding client-side IRCv3 feature support. [22:25] earthling another try, ... seamonkey is yet another firefox clone [22:25] britney ChatZilla is trash [22:26] earthling anything with a dependency graph against GNOME/GTK is... [22:27] earthling same with QT [22:27] earthling nonetheless, FSF/GNU promote it [22:28] earthling their arrogance, to dictate what's supposed to be free and what wasn't [22:30] britney earthling, FSF/GNU is bad now? [22:30] earthling bad how? [22:30] earthling it isn't freedom what they represent [22:30] britney thats what im asking [22:31] earthling and *BSD isn't any different [22:31] earthling it's just, the promotion of FSF/GNU is more pronounced [22:33] DaemonFC Oh hey, that was easy. [22:33] earthling to push development man power into IBM Wintel Pentagon realm [22:33] DaemonFC I just copies the key4.db over to SeaMonkey. It got all my passwords. [22:33] DaemonFC *copied [22:39] MinceR (audio) https://apina.biz/190613.mp4?mode=sfw [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190613.mp4 [22:44] DaemonFC Okay, now setting up my email accounts to use IMAP in SeaMonkey Mail. [22:49] britney DaemonFC, claws-mail master race [22:51] bnchs mutt master race [22:51] britney mutt is trash, alpine master race [22:52] britney that is if you want TUI instead of GUI [22:52] bnchs fuck HTML emails [22:52] SomeH4x0r I use neomutt [22:52] britney claws-mail doesn't render html and you can use your mouse [22:52] SomeH4x0r an issue I have with it is how to move emails to Junk direcotry [22:52] SomeH4x0r *directory [22:53] *earthling has quit (connection closed) [22:53] britney I guess we can all agree on one thing: seamonkey mail is trash [22:54] *earthling (~earthling@w4qru5eweewiy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:54] britney and thunderbird is bloated trash [22:54] britney its so bloated they added a matrix chat client [22:55] psydroid2 fuck all fucking software fuckers [22:57] britney all software sucks: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ [22:57] TR Bot All software sucks [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 20 [23:02] earthling catgirl irc client is decent quality, can't complain [23:03] earthling so no, NOT all software sucks [23:03] bnchs activelow? [23:03] earthling however, there is a tendency with GNU/FSF to promote suckers [23:03] britney earthling, actually ALL software does suck, some software sucks less but still sucks [23:04] britney hexchat is pretty awesome but it only supports a bunch of shitty languages for scripting [23:05] bnchs >implying C is shit [23:05] bnchs what's your best language [23:05] britney C *is* shit but its better than most of the other shitty languages [23:05] bnchs yes [23:06] britney I like Go but it isn't free of having problems [23:07] earthling Golang, i had seen enough when this flooded my distfile folder with cryptic filenames [23:07] britney Go is better than most languages but C is better than Go [23:08] MinceR https://apina.biz/190606.jpeg?mode=sfw [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190606.jpeg [23:09] britney https://imgur.com/a/2czoHzb [23:09] TR Bot The magic of the Internet [23:09] DaemonFC Hmm, SeaMonkey seems to have trouble loading a lot of things, including YouTube, WordPress Editor, and Element. [23:09] britney DaemonFC, you don't use the Element client? [23:09] DaemonFC This is rather ridiculous. The version of Gecko it's based on is only two years old. [23:10] DaemonFC What could have possibly changed in two years that is that important? [23:11] britney enough that nothing old works anymore [23:11] britney I tried google in 16-bit Windows 3.11, and Netscape 3.04 wouldn't load Google but IE 5.0 could [23:11] XRevan86 britney: "C++" <- Was that made by activelow? [23:11] britney XRevan86, what about C++? C++ is trash [23:12] britney I made the meme [23:12] bnchs earthling: every modern language does this kind of shit [23:12] bnchs remember when languages were written to actually do work [23:12] bnchs not ruin your home directory [23:12] bnchs or your package manager [23:13] britney I really don't like Python [23:13] britney it has pip and your package manager for installing modules [23:14] britney pick one! lol [23:14] XRevan86 britney: So ye don't like Perl for CPAN too I imagine. [23:14] britney perl is trash [23:14] bnchs britney: yes [23:14] bnchs pip broke my package manager [23:14] bnchs twice [23:14] XRevan86 britney: So if I were to ask you to make a script, what language are ye going to pick for the job? [23:15] britney XRevan86, powershell [23:15] bnchs inb4 microsoft [23:15] britney LOL im joking [23:15] bnchs write in shell [23:15] bnchs or bash [23:15] XRevan86 britney: NuGet [23:15] britney i dunno, probably nodejs, lua or whatever fish shell uses [23:16] XRevan86 "nodejs" <- npm [23:16] britney http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ recommends RC or awk [23:16] TR Bot All software sucks [23:16] XRevan86 All the other suggestions are amazingly cumbersome. [23:17] britney i don't generally write scripts [23:17] britney maybe just use bash scripting [23:17] XRevan86 I can tell. [23:18] britney lol [23:19] britney one time I tried to install this python software called "DeepSpeech," it pulled in java during the compilation process *and* it tried to compile 2000 C++ modules [23:19] bnchs >java [23:20] bnchs oh god [23:20] earthling that's one advantage of python and perl, their interpreters are written in C [23:20] britney yeah java is trash for sure [23:20] bnchs brings me awful memories of how much memory it consumes [23:20] earthling OpenJDK is written in c++ [23:21] earthling i lost interest in Java, wish i had never encountered it [23:21] earthling same with C++ [23:21] earthling i'd rather read and practice C, and Python or Perl cover all other use-cases a scripting language typically is tailored for [23:23] britney reading Go is pretty enjoyable [23:24] earthling does Golang garbage collection and exception handling? [23:24] britney Go has garbage collection [23:29] bnchs what would you do [23:29] bnchs C with garbage collection or Go [23:30] britney both [23:30] bnchs what would you prefer* [23:30] britney Go [23:30] britney I wouldn't have to use GCC so thats a win [23:31] earthling what instead of GCC would it be? [23:31] britney Go has its own set of compilers [23:32] bnchs like.... gnu go compiler [23:32] bnchs literally same code as GCC [23:32] britney there is a gnu go compiler but i wouldn't use it [23:33] britney I'd use the Golang compiler [23:33] britney https://go.dev/dl/go1.18.4.linux-amd64.tar.gz [23:33] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [23:33] britney omg I think I crashed the bot [23:33] *aliosablack (~chomwitt@95ruh3zdy2z5q.irc) has joined #techrights [23:33] bnchs britney: don't worry [23:33] *chomwitt has quit (connection closed) [23:34] bnchs this bot is programmed to crash, because it, for some reason, tries to load large files into memory [23:34] bnchs download* [23:34] earthling /me won't be lured into the golang trap [23:34] bnchs the power of PHP [23:40] bagira php is such an ass language [23:40] bagira it is so necessary but so ugly [23:40] earthling necessary for what? [23:40] bnchs necessary for nothing [23:41] bnchs it's primarily single-threaded [23:41] bagira it is useful for quick and dirty server-side scripting [23:41] earthling perl covered the use-cases of PHP long before [23:41] earthling python too [23:41] bagira i like python in a wsgi context [23:42] bagira for just dropping a server-side script in its not ideal [23:42] britney people still use perl? [23:43] bagira i mean yeah theyre technically people [23:43] MinceR 21 002432 < britney> Go has garbage collection [23:43] MinceR so, does it collect itself? [23:44] britney MinceR, lmao [23:56] MinceR (audio:music) https://apina.biz/190603.mp4?mode=sfw [23:59] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/bodycam-footage-of-4-year-old-who-shot-at-police-at-mcdonalds-released/