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| oiaohm | MinceR: I looked a bit deeper into the idea that p2p would help with the CoC issue from legal side it would in fact make it worse. Current Like kernel.org you can say its USA jurisdiction and only have one set of laws. P2P with business workplace health and safty/labour laws you are now required not to export something to someone that can endanger them. so now you have to obey all laws of all your different members. | Oct 20 02:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: work place health and safety/labor laws have be written over a long time with most methods to loophole removed. Fixed office is one of the few remaining loopholes. | Oct 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: so... | Oct 20 03:13 |
| schestowitz | only if you do something borderline illlegal | Oct 20 03:14 |
| schestowitz | Only then the bug creeps in? | Oct 20 03:14 |
| schestowitz | bear in mind this FUD was spread by MS-connected site and... | Oct 20 03:14 |
| schestowitz | it was 'diccovered' by a #microsoft employee | Oct 20 03:14 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the p2p stuff was tried by companies when they were setting up multi nationals so before the internet to attempt to avoid local laws and the result was being ruled all jurisdictions. So now they have defines offices in particular countries. . | Oct 20 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Basically people think they have new ideas to get around legal problems. One problem you are not normally the first to think of it someone else normally has and there is a ruling on it somewhere. | Oct 20 03:50 |
| schestowitz | but anyway... | Oct 20 03:51 |
| schestowitz | almost nobody toggled this on | Oct 20 03:51 |
| schestowitz | so the MS employee who started this FUD campaign | Oct 20 03:51 |
| schestowitz | was not being exactly honest | Oct 20 03:51 |
| oiaohm | FUD to achieve what. | Oct 20 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Linux disinformation | Oct 20 03:53 |
| oiaohm | Now maybe the noise about CoC that is mostly just stating what by law you are required todo anyhow. Now if people run to P2P as solution to attempt to get away from the legal requirements the result could be cripple development. | Oct 20 03:54 |
| oiaohm | I would say something other than Just Linux disinformation. | Oct 20 03:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16290895 | Oct 20 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft has a long-running campaign, usually via proxies like #snyk #whitesource #blackduck etc., to stigmatise #freesw as "not secure" Internal Microsoft documents have already shown us this is a deliberate and well-planned strategy | Oct 20 03:55 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: is the statement false is the first question. | Oct 20 03:56 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the bad news on security is a lot of open source projects really are not secure and don't have the systems in place to validate quality. | Oct 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz | and proprietary? | Oct 20 03:57 |
| schestowitz | and remember it's designed to deflect, distract | Oct 20 03:57 |
| oiaohm | Most software is designed like the first cars and that is a problem. | Oct 20 04:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Kernel_Self_Protection_Project this is starting to have the Linux kernel change from the first car model to cars with crumple zones kind of model. | Oct 20 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kernsec.org | Kernel Self Protection Project - Linux Kernel Security Subsystem | Oct 20 04:03 | |
| oiaohm | FUD normally requires a element to truth to work. Correct answer is normally fix the fault they are point to and thank them for their assistance while questioning like where are the Windows kernel runtime protections???? | Oct 20 04:04 |
| oiaohm | for items running in kernel space. | Oct 20 04:04 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: remember first cars were designed without crash testing to make sure they safely fail. Most software is designed the same way. | Oct 20 04:31 |
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| kaniini | KSPP is lame compared to grsecurity tho | Oct 20 08:36 |
| kaniini | it is too bad that spender has to be a dick and turn his back on free software | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | whatever ;) | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | if you like cursed codes of conduct, let me tell you about the apple supplier code of conduct | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | very simple | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | 4 points | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | 1. honesty; 2. respect; 3. confidentiality; 4. compliance | Oct 20 08:37 |
| kaniini | haha :D | Oct 20 08:38 |
| schestowitz | sounds like something an executive writes in Outlook of Word for 1 hour | Oct 20 08:55 |
| schestowitz | 4 bulletpoints, on the train | Oct 20 08:55 |
| schestowitz | pure genius! | Oct 20 08:55 |
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| schestowitz | jagadees: another guest post in response to yours | Oct 20 10:15 |
| schestowitz | working on it | Oct 20 10:15 |
| jagadees | one i sent just now | Oct 20 10:16 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: lot of ways KSPP is not lame compared to grsecurity. KSPP process is slower . https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/lssna19/11/Kernel%20Self-Protection%20Project.pdf They are successfully killing off complete classes of bugs that grsecurity never did. | Oct 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | didn't see it yet | Oct 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | jagadees: when did you send it? | Oct 20 10:17 |
| jagadees | sent 5 mins back | Oct 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | ok, I will check | Oct 20 10:17 |
| jagadees | ok | Oct 20 10:17 |
| kaniini | schestowitz: this is literally the apple supplier code of conduct | Oct 20 10:22 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: https://www.apple.com/anzsea/supplier-responsibility/pdfs/supplier_code_of_conduct.pdf << you can download the supplier code of conduct and its not that 4 point simple. | Oct 20 10:35 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: Antidiscrimination section of that is a good read. | Oct 20 10:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: really that apple code of conduct covers way more things than the linux kernel CoC. Its a good read for those who think the Linux kernel CoC is complex and broad reaching. | Oct 20 10:40 |
| kaniini | oiaohm: okay i may have simplified it a bit | Oct 20 10:52 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: a bit???? | Oct 20 10:52 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: Kind of massively. | Oct 20 10:52 |
| kaniini | compliance is still a key point of it | Oct 20 10:53 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: almost everything that is in the Linux kernel CoC in with different wording in the apple coc. | Oct 20 10:53 |
| oiaohm | Plus more. | Oct 20 10:53 |
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| oiaohm | Legal CoC basically contain same set of core points. | Oct 20 10:53 |
| oiaohm | Antidiscrimination and Anti-Harassment and Abuse will be written in all of them. | Oct 20 10:56 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: Supplier shall not discriminate against any worker based on age, disability, ethnicity, gender, marital status, national origin, political affiliation, race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, union membership, or any other status protected by country law, in hiring and other employment practices. Supplier shall not require pregnancy or medical tests, except where required by applicable laws or regulations or prudent for | Oct 20 10:58 |
| oiaohm | workplace safety, and shall not improperly discriminate based on test results. << That the apple Antidiscrimination clause | Oct 20 10:58 |
| kaniini | ok | Oct 20 10:58 |
| kaniini | i really | Oct 20 10:58 |
| kaniini | do not care | Oct 20 10:58 |
| kaniini | please stop highlighting me | Oct 20 10:58 |
| oiaohm | kaniini: Linux kernel CoC >> In the interest of fostering an open and welcoming environment, we as contributors and maintainers pledge to making participation in our project and our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or | Oct 20 10:59 |
| oiaohm | sexual identity and orientation. | Oct 20 10:59 |
| kaniini | please stop highlighting me | Oct 20 10:59 |
| oiaohm | The reality here you made a point it was baseless. | Oct 20 11:00 |
| kaniini | please stop highlighting me | Oct 20 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Apple has been that long since I first saw in in 1994. | Oct 20 11:00 |
| oiaohm | The wording has not changed since 1994. | Oct 20 11:00 |
| oiaohm | Code of Conducts with workplace regulations is not new. | Oct 20 11:01 |
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| MinceR | oiaohm: only if they can find out whom they want to sue | Oct 20 13:32 |
| MinceR | otherwise, they get to tighten their censorship endlessly | Oct 20 13:33 |
| MinceR | as for validating quality, real names don't really tell you anything, you could just as easily trust public keys of contributors | Oct 20 13:33 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: horrible part is with workplace/labor laws who to sue is simple everyone in management roles and lock the workplace. | Oct 20 13:45 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the fun part about labour laws is you have to sue them for locking the workplace incorrectly. | Oct 20 13:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not them sueing you., | Oct 20 13:46 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/laws-and-compliance/compliance-and-enforcement/workplace-inspections/enforcement-options I know this is Australia but it writes up what the lock the workplace is basically Seizing any equipment that is used to keep the offense going. | Oct 20 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enforcement options - worksafe.qld.gov.au | Oct 20 13:50 | |
| oiaohm | None of this requires the goverment inspectors in any country with UK/french based workplace/labour laws to spend a single min in court. | Oct 20 13:51 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: so who government sues is no one when you breach this stuff. They just keep on taking your stuff until you give or successfully sue the government for being wrong. | Oct 20 13:52 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: the point is that every free software developer would be anonymous | Oct 20 13:52 |
| MinceR | they literally would not know whom to sue. | Oct 20 13:52 |
| oiaohm | These laws would allow taking ISP> | Oct 20 13:52 |
| oiaohm | For ading | Oct 20 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Anyone linked. | Oct 20 13:53 |
| MinceR | yeah, people are dealing with stuff like that in places like red china | Oct 20 13:53 |
| MinceR | and people could build mesh networks | Oct 20 13:53 |
| oiaohm | The workplace/labour laws make most of China laws look fair and above board. | Oct 20 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Its not just china either. | Oct 20 13:55 |
| oiaohm | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/police-seize-servers-of-bulletproof-provider-known-for-hosting-malware-ops/ <<Other laws have already been applied to hosting. | Oct 20 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Police Seize Servers of Bulletproof Provider Known For Hosting Malware Ops | Oct 20 13:56 | |
| MinceR | yes, and dictatorships have tried many things against the likes of Tor | Oct 20 13:57 |
| MinceR | yet they still exist | Oct 20 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Lot of tor sites have been located and taken down. | Oct 20 13:58 |
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| fuji | hi | Oct 20 14:00 |
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| fujisan | hi fuji | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fuji | hi fujisan | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fujisan | oh hi there fuji | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fuji | tough crowd huh | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fujisan | yeah a bit silent | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fuji | room of sleepers | Oct 20 14:01 |
| fujisan | something like that | Oct 20 14:02 |
| MinceR | lots of tor sites are still running | Oct 20 14:09 |
| fujisan | ty MinceR | Oct 20 14:10 |
| schestowitz | heh | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz | hi, fujisan | Oct 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz | is that the name from Karate Kid? | Oct 20 14:13 |
| fujisan | hi Dr. Roy | Oct 20 14:15 |
| schestowitz | o hi 0/ | Oct 20 14:16 |
| fujisan | how much for a session with dr. Roy ? | Oct 20 14:18 |
| fujisan | and what kind of therapy do you provide? | Oct 20 14:19 |
| fujisan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apxU8Ow99-8 <-- schestowitz | Oct 20 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jordan Peterson: Men who marry witchy women - YouTube | Oct 20 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | ? | Oct 20 14:21 |
| fujisan | how can you cast a spell on witchy women and improve their cooking? | Oct 20 14:21 |
| MinceR | the same way you can cast it on witchless women and other beings | Oct 20 14:22 |
| fuji | dont ask him ask rianne_ | Oct 20 14:22 |
| schestowitz | what does this have to do with technology? | Oct 20 14:22 |
| fujisan | everything and nothing | Oct 20 14:22 |
| fujisan | it's like Schrödinger's cat | Oct 20 14:23 |
| fujisan | and technology is moving into that direction | Oct 20 14:23 |
| fuji | yeah the quantum internet will be here soon | Oct 20 14:24 |
| fuji | can you imagine it | Oct 20 14:24 |
| fuji | you will be able to chat with your future self | Oct 20 14:24 |
| fujisan | in theory at least -_- | Oct 20 14:24 |
| MinceR | yeah, it's moving towards oblivion | Oct 20 14:25 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19081280 | Oct 20 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 20 14:29 | |
| fujisan | :D | Oct 20 14:29 |
| fujisan | only sometimes | Oct 20 14:29 |
| fujisan | pets are great but i dont like to get attached it's sad when they die | Oct 20 14:30 |
| MinceR | humans are like that too | Oct 20 14:30 |
| fujisan | maybe Dr. Roy can help me with that problem | Oct 20 14:30 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/14/312addea0728dcf6.gif | Oct 20 14:41 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: With technology? Sure, get yourself a tamagotchi | Oct 20 14:44 |
| fujisan | :D | Oct 20 14:44 |
| fujisan | 1986 great year | Oct 20 14:45 |
| fujisan | i remember it well | Oct 20 14:45 |
| fujisan | great movies on tv | Oct 20 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | I love it when people assume it's my birth year %) | Oct 20 14:46 |
| schestowitz | x86 | Oct 20 14:47 |
| fujisan | you were born later? | Oct 20 14:48 |
| fujisan | i never assumed it was your birth year you assumed, that i assumed that it was your birth year... | Oct 20 14:49 |
| fujisan | i did assume it was a year sure | Oct 20 14:49 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: But you did assume it's a year | Oct 20 14:49 |
| fujisan | i'll give you that much | Oct 20 14:49 |
| fujisan | i love how i pre-empted that one -_- | Oct 20 14:49 |
| fujisan | so okay we 'll meet in the middle | Oct 20 14:50 |
| fujisan | what is it then? | Oct 20 14:50 |
| fujisan | x86 ? | Oct 20 14:50 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: "XFree86", which is related to "x86". | Oct 20 14:50 |
| fujisan | okay cool | Oct 20 14:51 |
| fujisan | and your birth year is somewhere in the 21st century? | Oct 20 14:52 |
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| XRevan86 | fujisan: It is not. | Oct 20 14:53 |
| fujisan | what's your symmetrical age then? | Oct 20 14:56 |
| fujisan | i.e. someone born in 1992 reached their symmetrical age in 2008 at age 16 | Oct 20 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: Which would be my real age plus 1981. | Oct 20 15:04 |
| XRevan86 | wait, I wrote a bunch of non-sense | Oct 20 15:05 |
| XRevan86 | (real age - 19) * 2 | Oct 20 15:09 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: What's the point when one can be calculated from another? | Oct 20 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | So my birth year is just 2000 - half symmetrical age | Oct 20 15:12 |
| fujisan | well the number of people who have a symmetrical age is in rapid decline | Oct 20 15:12 |
| fujisan | just a way to make smalltalk | Oct 20 15:13 |
| fujisan | no particular point | Oct 20 15:13 |
| fujisan | idiosyncrasies are like that | Oct 20 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | fujisan: Do I understand it right that symmetrical age is (2000 - YEAR) * 2 ? | Oct 20 15:16 |
| fujisan | ye | Oct 20 15:17 |
| XRevan86 | Why would the number of people for whom this number can be calculated be in rapid decline? | Oct 20 15:17 |
| fujisan | we are almost 20 years into the 21st century 1/5 of a century, so all the new people are born in the current century not the 20th | Oct 20 15:18 |
| samiamsam | fewer and fewer people are born before the year 2000 | Oct 20 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | None are born now obviously, since for newborns the number is negative, but why would that be in any way surprising? | Oct 20 15:18 |
| samiamsam | actually though, everyone has a symmetrical age, just that the newer people have one in the past | Oct 20 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | samiamsam: Amazing! | Oct 20 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | I never realised no one is born in XXth century anymore :D | Oct 20 15:19 |
| XRevan86 | * is being born | Oct 20 15:19 |
| fujisan | 20th century people will become rare soon enough | Oct 20 15:19 |
| XRevan86 | Or one could calculate it against the 30th century. | Oct 20 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | no one will live long enough to reach their symmetrical age, but it's still a number | Oct 20 15:21 |
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| fujisan | yeah | Oct 20 15:21 |
| fujisan | well in theory for scifi stories | Oct 20 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | That number is pointless anyway. Centuries are arbitrary for one thing. | Oct 20 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | "Or one could calculate it against the 30th century." – or maybe just against year 2100 | Oct 20 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | So the start of the XXII century. | Oct 20 15:23 |
| XRevan86 | Centuries, millennia, one can pick any point of symmetry as far as I'm concerned. | Oct 20 15:24 |
| fujisan | sure | Oct 20 15:24 |
| fujisan | but we give everything its meaning | Oct 20 15:25 |
| fujisan | you could also deprive everything of meaning | Oct 20 15:25 |
| fujisan | in India cows are holy in the west they are not | Oct 20 15:25 |
| XRevan86 | Can I deprive a hungry tiger of meaning? | Oct 20 15:25 |
| XRevan86 | One can construct anything with their minds, but not everything will have practical applications in the real world where it matters. | Oct 20 15:27 |
| fujisan | yeah sure | Oct 20 15:27 |
| fujisan | i get what you mean | Oct 20 15:27 |
| samiamsam | well i remember before people had PCs and internet in their homes | Oct 20 15:29 |
| samiamsam | my kids do not | Oct 20 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | And such a concept as "century" is indeed useful, but one mustn't forget that it is not intrinsic. | Oct 20 15:29 |
| fujisan | yeah same for me samiamsam | Oct 20 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | So you can't make conclusions like "centuries are like that, therefore…" | Oct 20 15:30 |
| fujisan | i have one niece born in the 20th century and the rest were all born in the 21st century | Oct 20 15:30 |
| samiamsam | XRevan86: how is _that_ not a conclusion about centuries in general? | Oct 20 15:30 |
| XRevan86 | samiamsam: Because the number taken from that equation can float around | Oct 20 15:31 |
| fujisan | when growing up i had tv and vhs and videostores and radio | Oct 20 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | Make your pick, draw a number | Oct 20 15:31 |
| fujisan | and later some console gaming | Oct 20 15:31 |
| samiamsam | good answer, i was just joking though | Oct 20 15:31 |
| samiamsam | once i went to radio shake to buy a relay switch | Oct 20 15:32 |
| fujisan | life seemed slower | Oct 20 15:35 |
| fujisan | more boredom as well | Oct 20 15:35 |
| XRevan86 | It can be used to find some kind of interesting property of age symmetry or something, but any given number on its own is practically worthless. | Oct 20 15:42 |
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