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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Apple’s CUPS Repository Has Died A Quiet Death http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143293#comment-26758 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bc214b42-978e-48ba-bd88-88f3781252f7]Oct 20 00:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Customizable carrier boards showcase Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143390#comment-26759 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a62e5576-1047-4a8e-bde0-d02f4672fd85]Oct 20 00:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: First Look: Manjaro ARM Beta 1 with Phosh on the PinePhone | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143406 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12dfc517-67e1-4f6e-bed4-0acbbe2eb713]Oct 20 00:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel Development and Linux Foundation Openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143407 [https://pleroma.site/objects/194f7c91-a7ad-4a51-8764-e8a0585b2e23]Oct 20 00:59
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ongoing (Albeit Secret) Campaign of #Patent #Extortion Against #GNU / #Linux Distributions Using Software Patents, Even Expired Ones in #Europe http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/oin-is-mia-again/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/8bd1062b-6bb3-47d8-8663-0476bb96e258]Oct 20 02:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They seem to have sped up the coin counting at Walmart.Oct 20 02:09
DaemonFC[m]I was just dropping them into the self-check one at a time while the cashier was staring at me last time.Oct 20 02:10
schestowitzwe have like 10 KG of coins nowOct 20 02:12
schestowitzneed to offload them some time soonOct 20 02:12
schestowitzprobably when the queues at banks lessen a bit in lengthOct 20 02:12
schestowitzI think many people apply for overdraft and mortgage payment delaysOct 20 02:12
schestowitztomorrow we might go into another lockdownOct 20 02:13
schestowitzdoes not affect me personally unless the gym shuts againOct 20 02:13
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MinceRit's nice to see that someone has brought CUPS back from the deadOct 20 02:42
MinceRi wonder if the things the cupertino mafia broke in it will be fixed tooOct 20 02:42
schestowitzlink?Oct 20 02:44
schestowitzApple does not need printing anymore anyway... in the name of the environment they only include the handset and you can use the old plotter from the 1980sOct 20 02:45
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MinceRhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143293#comment-26758Oct 20 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Digital Restrictions (DRM) and Proprietary Pushers | Tux MachinesOct 20 02:48
schestowitzApple's CUPS Repository Has Died A Quiet Death   http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143293#comment-26758 #apple #cups #printing Oct 20 02:52
schestowitzYeah, that one...Oct 20 02:52
schestowitzChaekyung wrote about itOct 20 02:52
schestowitzas did phoronix and The Register, iircOct 20 02:52
schestowitzMicrosoft TimOct 20 02:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143408 •●• #GNU #Linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/50fdad6d-a537-42ce-beba-75e883d15536]Oct 20 03:39
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zoobabheyOct 20 03:57
MinceRhayOct 20 03:57
zoobabhttps://www.epo.org/law-practice/unitary/unitary-patent/start.htmlOct 20 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - When will Unitary Patents be available?Oct 20 03:58
zoobabEPO is already re-interpreting the rules Oct 20 03:59
zoobabItaly has replaced the UK to get it into forceOct 20 03:59
schestowitzthanks for finding itOct 20 04:55
schestowitz2020 [citation needed]Oct 20 04:55
schestowitz*2022Oct 20 04:55
schestowitzLOL!!Oct 20 04:55
schestowitzWait until next editOct 20 04:55
schestowitz2025Oct 20 04:55
schestowitz2030Oct 20 04:55
schestowitz"real soon now"Oct 20 04:55
schestowitzzoobab: http://techrights.org/2020/10/08/wouter-pors-on-upc/Oct 20 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Did Not Age Well: UPC to Start… 5 Years Ago | TechrightsOct 20 04:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Intel, AMD and Vulkan http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143409 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ab1224e1-4784-432b-8357-6cd3458de55c]Oct 20 05:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Standards and Choices http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/standards-and-choices/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c098e55f-af04-49a1-bb08-83943b6d791d]Oct 20 05:37
ChaekyungI get this every second requestOct 20 06:26
ChaekyungTechrights has a problemOct 20 06:26
ChaekyungSorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.Oct 20 06:26
ChaekyungTry waiting a few minutes and reloading.Oct 20 06:26
Chaekyung(Can't contact the database server: Unknown error (10.163.214.20))Oct 20 06:26
schestowitzwhat does "every second request" mean?Oct 20 06:49
schestowitzsounds like the site is overloaded by somethingOct 20 06:49
schestowitzdid you try more than a minute apart?Oct 20 06:49
Chaekyungme clicking click click click shouldn't .. kill your siteOct 20 06:51
Chaekyunghttps://linuxreviews.org/Ongoing_(Albeit_Secret)_Campaign_of_Patent_Extortion_Against_GNU/Linux_Distributions_Using_Software_Patents,_Even_Expired_Ones_in_EuropeOct 20 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Ongoing (Albeit Secret) Campaign of Patent Extortion Against GNU/Linux Distributions Using Software Patents, Even Expired Ones in Europe - LinuxReviewsOct 20 06:51
Chaekyungthat's why btwOct 20 06:51
ChaekyungI wanted to make sure the links actually workOct 20 06:51
schestowitzmaybe bad timingOct 20 06:52
ChaekyungI added the techrights wiki to the interwiki table thingy so I can [[techrights:whatever|link text]Oct 20 06:52
schestowitzwe did have a load spike minutes agoOct 20 06:52
Chaekyungso I clicked a few links in a row just to see if it works or notOct 20 06:52
Chaekyungspike, ehOct 20 06:52
ChaekyunglolOct 20 06:52
schestowitztoucheOct 20 06:52
Chaekyunghttp://munin.everdot.org/sunny/sunny/fw_conntrack.htmlOct 20 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-munin.everdot.org | fw conntrack (Munin :: sunny :: sunny :: fw conntrack)Oct 20 06:52
Chaekyungsuch spike wowOct 20 06:52
schestowitztest  http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/standards-and-choices/Oct 20 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Standards and Choices | TechrightsOct 20 06:52
Chaekyunghttp://munin.everdot.org/sunny/sunny/fw_packets.htmlOct 20 06:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-munin.everdot.org | fw packets (Munin :: sunny :: sunny :: fw packets)Oct 20 06:53
schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/08/wouter-pors-on-upc/Oct 20 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Did Not Age Well: UPC to Start… 5 Years Ago | TechrightsOct 20 06:53
schestowitz(us-based ip)Oct 20 06:53
Chaekyungit was the wiki not the blogOct 20 06:53
schestowitzload from the wiki is a lot lowerOct 20 06:53
schestowitzmaybe 3-5 times lower per pageOct 20 06:53
schestowitzbecause pages are dynamically linkedOct 20 06:53
Chaekyungit seems like it had issues reaching the databaseOct 20 06:53
schestowitzthe cross-references, it has to look up each in turnOct 20 06:54
Chaekyunganyway, on a more relevant topic, I also considered re-posting another article of yours.Oct 20 06:54
Chaekyunghttp://techrights.org/2020/10/19/reversal-of-narratives/Oct 20 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reversal of Narratives by Internet Trolls (Spinning Reaction to Their Trolling as ‘Abuse’) | TechrightsOct 20 06:54
schestowitzor... maybe you tried around 4:40 my timeOct 20 06:54
schestowitzthat's when all the backups happenOct 20 06:54
schestowitzinc. wikiOct 20 06:54
Chaekyungthat could be it, yesOct 20 06:54
Chaekyungtoo high db load due to backupsOct 20 06:54
schestowitzand you're guaranteed to get errors for 8 minutes or soOct 20 06:54
schestowitz2 hours ago, 2:20Oct 20 06:54
schestowitzwe already reniced it to the maxOct 20 06:55
Chaekyunganyway, when it comes to that article of yours at http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/reversal-of-narratives/   .. one thing that makes me not want to post it is that I read the thing and I don't get itOct 20 06:55
schestowitzthe wordpress DB is 1.1 GB when compressed Oct 20 06:55
Chaekyung1.1 GiB compressed? damnOct 20 06:55
Chaekyungthat's some DB you got thereOct 20 06:55
schestowitz14 yearsOct 20 06:55
schestowitz28000 postsOct 20 06:55
ChaekyungAnyway, in that message from some Daniel. It says "hen I look at various documents published by FSFE, including minutesOct 20 06:56
Chaekyungof their annual meeting from 2019, I feel they actively violate theOct 20 06:56
ChaekyungFedora Code of Conduct"Oct 20 06:56
schestowitzthe post does not name the project, person, trollOct 20 06:56
ChaekyungThe rest of the message has absolutely nothing concreteOct 20 06:56
schestowitzas that would be too earlyOct 20 06:56
Chaekyunglike absolutely nothing. so I read the message and I can no clueOct 20 06:56
Chaekyungperhaps that's the point?Oct 20 06:56
schestowitzdoesn't want to spread defamation of the selfOct 20 06:56
schestowitzthat's whyOct 20 06:56
schestowitzhe exposed fsfe corruptionOct 20 06:57
schestowitzmisuse of the orgOct 20 06:57
schestowitzand so they started defaming himOct 20 06:57
schestowitzeven in projects OUTSIDE FSFEOct 20 06:57
schestowitzlooking for revenge, to cancel the messengerOct 20 06:57
schestowitzhe was then demoted in DebianOct 20 06:59
schestowitzand later also removed from some planets like mozilla and fedoraOct 20 06:59
schestowitzbecause speaking about abuse is... well, abusive?Oct 20 06:59
schestowitzChaekyung: context here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/XQECS42TCPU3TK7HICFY6S6E4TD2NPMA/Oct 20 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fedoraproject.org | donations to organizations that violate the Code of Conduct - council-discuss - Fedora Mailing-ListsOct 20 07:00
schestowitzor rather, IBM's response to itOct 20 07:00
schestowitzcomments = IBM employeesOct 20 07:00
schestowitzhiding behind their "fedorsA" badgesOct 20 07:00
schestowitz"Community"... "open org"Oct 20 07:00
ChaekyungI posted a video with Ben Cotton the other day. I did find it odd that he was talking about "Red Hat sponsorship"Oct 20 07:02
schestowitzthe veneer of altruism, no salary, no vested interests...Oct 20 07:02
schestowitzyes, I linked to that videoOct 20 07:03
schestowitzdid you notice an increase in site traffic?Oct 20 07:03
schestowitzre "Red Hat sponsorship", it just means IBMOct 20 07:03
schestowitzthey use the Red Hat brandOct 20 07:03
schestowitzas it's stronger in the context of freeSWOct 20 07:03
Chaekyungdidn't really notice any massive traffic influx but I am very happy you linked it.Oct 20 07:03
schestowitzone day this brand will be gone, like "ATI" (AMD)Oct 20 07:03
Chaekyungso regarding Fedora, if I work in an office owned by a corporation and I get a sallary from that corpration then I'm .. an employeeOct 20 07:04
ChaekyungThere's no "oh I just get paid by them and I just work in their office but I am totally not a part of that corporation"Oct 20 07:04
schestowitz瑨灴⼺眯睷琮硵慭档湩獥漮杲港摯⽥㐱㌳㌳Oct 20 07:05
schestowitzoopsOct 20 07:05
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143333Oct 20 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ben Cotton: How Fedora Is Run And Why | Tux MachinesOct 20 07:05
schestowitzsynergy/barrier/qupzilla bugOct 20 07:05
schestowitzencoding issues across PCsOct 20 07:05
schestowitzMairin, who responded to Pocock above, was upset when I had made the point you just madeOct 20 07:06
schestowitzto the point of threatening to leave identi.caOct 20 07:07
schestowitzthen inciting her red hat colleagues against meOct 20 07:07
Chaekyungfrom webstat, 2080 http://www.tuxmachines.org/Oct 20 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Oct 20 07:07
schestowitzI merely pointed out she worked for red hatOct 20 07:07
schestowitzand she saw that like a form of intimidation or somethingOct 20 07:07
schestowitzas if pointing out who the employer is would be reason for her to go offlineOct 20 07:07
ChaekyunglolOct 20 07:07
schestowitzthey're very sensitive about those thingsOct 20 07:08
Chaekyungshe did that? that cracks me upOct 20 07:08
schestowitzbut by protesting she'd delete her account she managed to incite some colleagues against me. It happened a decade or so ago.Oct 20 07:08
schestowitzPassive aggressive imhoOct 20 07:08
schestowitzblaming people for one's own suicide as if were Oct 20 07:08
schestowitzthe digital self-immolationOct 20 07:09
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brendyynschestowitz: the gnome maps location is maybe because of this service ? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/geoclue/geoclue/-/wikis/homeOct 20 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | Home · Wiki · geoclue / geoclue · GitLabOct 20 11:15
brendyynsmartphones may share gps info over the network 0.o?Oct 20 11:15
schestowitzthat's what I thoughtOct 20 11:18
schestowitzsomeone debated the matter with meOct 20 11:18
schestowitzand then we thought, "wait..."Oct 20 11:19
schestowitzmaybe they have a record of the router's address, not the laptopOct 20 11:19
schestowitzand that might be because we have open wifi that some visitors with phones connect toOct 20 11:19
brendyynso your routers info is in some database somewhere over the rainbow now?Oct 20 11:20
schestowitzyesOct 20 11:27
schestowitzI did some posts about thisOct 20 11:27
schestowitzGoogle used to harvest MAC addressesOct 20 11:27
schestowitzand I asked for more examples of such thingsOct 20 11:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: People With #GodComplex Must Never be Allowed in Positions of Power http://techrights.org/2020/10/20/god-complex/ #billgates #microsoft #antitrust #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/3e96f524-0ac9-4ce3-a3c0-f8be683ddd2e]Oct 20 11:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu and Debian Get Patches for Bluetooth Remote Code Execution Flaws, Update Now | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143410 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a6d0267a-2af4-4eb5-8718-8fb12b5af8f4]Oct 20 11:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How should open source projects handle copyright notices? | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143412 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8f667b48-55fd-4744-b829-0709408ebd3d]Oct 20 11:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 8 Best Free and Open Source PDF Development Libraries | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143413 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44ef6d7d-0600-4d6e-af01-da281747bc08]Oct 20 11:50
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MinceRhttps://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/npfs0puz5j4afjxmuw12.jpgOct 20 16:08
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XRevan86MinceR: God doesn't have a deal with TikTokOct 20 16:13
MinceR:>Oct 20 16:13
XRevan86God doesn't think '' IS NULL is true.Oct 20 16:13
MinceRhow larry ellison should be more like "God": he shouldn't exist.Oct 20 16:14
XRevan86They both took over Sun.Oct 20 16:19
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MinceR"God" didn't because he didn't existOct 20 16:21
XRevan86MinceR: I mean that Abrahamic religions took over paganism, which typically involves worshipping the Sun.Oct 20 16:22
XRevan86nothing supernatural about thatOct 20 16:23
MinceRicOct 20 16:24
MinceRwas ancient egyptian religion "paganism" too? :>Oct 20 16:24
XRevan86MinceR: apparentlyOct 20 16:26
XRevan86so is Greek mythologyOct 20 16:28
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schestowitzwe're moving back to lockdown this friday :/Oct 20 18:19
schestowitzonly upside is, I'll have more time to write articlesOct 20 18:20
zoobabrumour of lockdown in Brussels this fridayOct 20 18:22
schestowitzmakes senseOct 20 18:22
schestowitz10,000 cases for 11 million people per dayOct 20 18:22
zoobabprefectlyOct 20 18:22
schestowitzthat's like 70k a day for UK at that rateOct 20 18:22
zoobabsome hospitals in Liege have to ship people to Germany :-)Oct 20 18:22
zoobabI bet the 2nd wave will be bigger then the first oneOct 20 18:22
schestowitzhumans... so powerfulOct 20 18:23
schestowitzgot nukesOct 20 18:23
schestowitzgot "conventional" weaponsOct 20 18:23
MinceRi thought it already isOct 20 18:23
schestowitzsend them a tiny virus that can spreadOct 20 18:23
MinceRbut maybe that's only in this shitholeOct 20 18:23
schestowitzand then they become neanderthal doing workouts on rocks, with rocks..Oct 20 18:23
schestowitzMinceR: must be Vikkktor's ideaOct 20 18:24
schestowitzkeeps his opposition quieterOct 20 18:24
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20011227Oct 20 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4279289)Oct 20 18:26
schestowitzrubber baby https://i.redd.it/wsmefrqit0a41.png Oct 20 18:29
XRevan86https://nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-s-protests-explained-why-rubber-ducks-sneakers-are-demonstrations-n738891 2017Oct 20 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Russia's Protests Explained: Why Rubber Ducks, Sneakers Are at DemonstrationsOct 20 18:32
XRevan86it was just Medvedev's duckyOct 20 18:32
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zoobab@schestowitz have you seen the thing about the EPO page on UPC?Oct 20 19:06
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zoobabthe diff is amazingOct 20 19:08
XRevan86https://youtu.be/tHwFBbgLBEY another installment of the series "what do you do when your band's iconic singer died 30 years ago in a car accident"Oct 20 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-КИНО — Попробуй спеть вместе со мной Live 2020 - YouTubeOct 20 19:13
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MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20082625Oct 20 22:07
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schestowitzzoobab: diff to what?Oct 20 22:13
birkoffthat esr rant about microsoft starting to become an emulation layer on top of windows was feeling to me quite far-fetchedOct 20 22:23
NarratorOS is not so important to themOct 20 22:25
Narratorthey have our data ... mostly Oct 20 22:25
Narratorthey can fire those useless programmers Oct 20 22:26
birkoffthe whole internet has turned into a monitoring network Stalin would envyOct 20 22:26
Narratorleft-wing ideas as invectivesOct 20 22:28
Narratorbirkoff: you are smart as castroOct 20 22:29
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*Narrator off, time to sleepOct 20 22:31
schestowitzESR and SJVN are relicsOct 20 22:38
schestowitzand they get traffic entertaining BSOct 20 22:38
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20011115Oct 20 22:38
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schestowitzlolOct 20 22:40
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birkoffage does get to peopleOct 20 22:47
schestowitznot sure it's even an ageism thingOct 20 22:47
schestowitzone works for zdnetOct 20 22:47
schestowitzI can't say any good things about thatOct 20 22:47
schestowitzsometimes idg as wellOct 20 22:47
birkoffwho's SJVN ? Oct 20 22:48
schestowitzesr is just politically nutsOct 20 22:48
schestowitzSTeven VaughanOct 20 22:48
schestowitzthe media takes them too seriouslyOct 20 22:48
birkoffthat's like old people becoming extremely rigid and not in line with realityOct 20 22:48
schestowitzbecause one wrote a book and another wrote many articlesOct 20 22:48
schestowitzbut the media likes their storyOct 20 22:48
schestowitzbecause it makes for good clickbaitOct 20 22:48
schestowitzhence we started doing more antitrust coverageOct 20 22:49
birkoffwell esr isn't a media soldierOct 20 22:49
schestowitzwhich was timely also because some old material was becoming inaccessible or barely accessibleOct 20 22:49
schestowitzesr thinks of himself like some sex starOct 20 22:49
schestowitzand "tough guy"Oct 20 22:49
schestowitzbecause "guns" and "kill the commies"Oct 20 22:50
schestowitzit's well past the "midlife crisis"Oct 20 22:50
birkoffkinda sadOct 20 22:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/New_buffer_2:2Oct 20 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New buffer 2:2 - TechrightsOct 20 22:54
schestowitz"Oct 20 22:54
schestowitzThe tasks that Open Source moles like the most are the community/UI tasks, the ones that have the least to do with software freedom. That's their typical fulcrum: GNOME, Jono, Deb (Membership), Outreach, Anti-harassment, etc. If you read the Halloween documents, you could have nearly predicted it that way. They basically hint about those roles as points of infiltration.Oct 20 22:54
schestowitzThey're not bad things to have, provided that they aren't taken over by traitors and moles. When these roles are given too much power over the rest of a project, mutiny seems to happen again and again-- across not only organisations, but projects large and small: Python, Debian, Devuan-- for some reason, these roles keep getting taken over by traitors, liars and sociopaths. If you value your project or org, you'll be careful and even Oct 20 22:54
schestowitzcautious not to let these roles subsume the original purpose itself.Oct 20 22:54
schestowitz"Oct 20 22:54
birkoffthat's true... Oct 20 22:58
birkoffit's already too late thoughOct 20 22:59
birkoffddedweefwfOct 20 22:59
birkoffwho is Greg btw?Oct 20 23:00
XRevan86What a cool feature: Windows 10 20H2 places a MS Edge icon on the desktop even if it was previously manually removed by the user.Oct 20 23:02
XRevan86Just in case it was accidental I guess.Oct 20 23:02
oiaohmXRevan86: https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/17/21520315/microsoft-install-office-pwa-web-app-without-permission-update-word-powerpoint-excel   Microsoft adding icon is on their minor end of modifications done without user permissionOct 20 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft just force restarted my Windows 10 PC to install more unwanted apps - The VergeOct 20 23:10
XRevan86> OK, it’s not as bad as when my entire computer screen got taken over by an unwanted copy of Microsoft Edge.Oct 20 23:13
XRevan86I remember when Microsoft was saying that shoving MS Edge into people's faces was a coding error.Oct 20 23:13
oiaohmThe one I pointed to the system could auto reboot to add the applications Microsoft wanted without your approval and without letting you save your work.Oct 20 23:13
XRevan86And then they changed it to Chromium and did it again, except this time even more aggressively than ever before.Oct 20 23:14
oiaohmSo there is worse than the edge one.Oct 20 23:14
oiaohmThe fun if Microsoft does for edge as they did with those web apps as in you change t he browser to edge so it resets system to put it back.   I suspect one day that will happen and Microsoft will claim its a opps error by someone again.Oct 20 23:16
oiaohmIts not like Microsoft ever puts out a patch to reverse their gains from these bugsOct 20 23:17
XRevan86oiaohm: At least in some circumstances installation of the Chromium Edge automatically changes the default browser.Oct 20 23:18
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schestowitzlolOct 20 23:38
schestowitz"ubuntu expert"Oct 20 23:38
schestowitzhttps://www.windowscentral.com/ubuntu-expert-takes-look-microsoft-edge-linuxOct 20 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowscentral.com | Ubuntu expert takes a look at Microsoft Edge for Linux | Windows CentralOct 20 23:38
schestowitzbooster of Microsoft crapOct 20 23:38
schestowitznow Microsoft sites celebrate this nonsenseOct 20 23:38
schestowitz[23:13] <oiaohm> The one I pointed to the system could auto reboot to add the applications Microsoft wanted without your approval and without letting you save your work.Oct 20 23:39
schestowitzIt's a good think we revisit the antitrust case this monthOct 20 23:39
schestowitztime for another round for the ringleader in the "box" or "cube"Oct 20 23:39
schestowitzmore interrogation with actual enforcement of the ruling this timeOct 20 23:40
oiaohmhttps://www.theregister.com/2019/03/11/windows_10_on_kvm   This one last year was odd.   Windows patched to run on KVM not KVM patched to run windows.Oct 20 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft tweaks Windows 10 on Arm64 to play nicely with KVM • The RegisterOct 20 23:41
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XRevan86> The app is fast to open and responsive in use. If Microsoft can maintain the friction-free feel it could win some new fans.Oct 20 23:44
XRevan86Is Chromium or Google Chrome friction ful and unresponsive for Joey Sneddon?Oct 20 23:44
XRevan86> Did I ever think I’d be writing a post about Microsoft’s flagship web browser being available for Linux? Heck no! And yet, here we are!Oct 20 23:46
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XRevan86I mean, if he didn't think about this after the Chromium rebasing announcement, then I don't know under what bush he was living.Oct 20 23:46
XRevan86> We’ve already touched on Collections, but there’s also an ‘immersive reader’ modeOct 20 23:49
XRevan86I guess Chromium really doesn't have that. But without context one might think this is a quote about Firefox.Oct 20 23:50
XRevan86"web screenshot tool" – also FirefoxOct 20 23:50
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