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| oiaohm | Lot of cases is china made clone parts. | Dec 20 00:00 |
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| oiaohm | Or salvaged parts. | Dec 20 00:00 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: lot of the parts you will find on sale at aliexpress and amazon. | Dec 20 00:02 |
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| cubexyz | I think I'll fire up the ol' zaurus tonight | Dec 20 00:08 |
| cubexyz | that is... how old is that... 2002 | Dec 20 00:09 |
| cubexyz | oh and I fixed a sega genesis a few months ago :) | Dec 20 00:13 |
| cubexyz | so I'm on a roll | Dec 20 00:13 |
| cubexyz | that is 1993ish | Dec 20 00:20 |
| cubexyz | hard to say exactly how old it is | Dec 20 00:20 |
| oiaohm | That will be hard to get parts. | Dec 20 00:38 |
| cubexyz | just imagine how impossible it is to fix sega saturn or other old cd-based systems | Dec 20 00:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://gdemu.wordpress.com/about/ Lot of those I am after to get rid of the drive. problem is even getting the parts todo that is a uphill battle. | Dec 20 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gdemu.wordpress.com | About – GDEMU | Dec 20 00:47 | |
| cubexyz | oiaohm, how long is the manufacturer expected to supply parts? | Dec 20 00:49 |
| cubexyz | is there a rule about that? | Dec 20 00:49 |
| oiaohm | Depends on your countries laws and what the item is. | Dec 20 00:51 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: here in Australia you would be expecting somewhere between 5 to 10 years. | Dec 20 00:53 |
| oiaohm | For items like fridges it can be like 13 to 20 years for particular types. | Dec 20 00:53 |
| oiaohm | So something like sega genesis legally screwed on parts. | Dec 20 00:54 |
| MinceR | fridge racer | Dec 20 00:56 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: https://hxc2001.com/download/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html floppy drives are easy to replace we have the open hardware design replacement that if the vendor cannot provide you have the full circuit diagram to work from to make a replacement. | Dec 20 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HxC2001 : HxC Floppy Emulator download | Dec 20 00:58 | |
| oiaohm | The cdrom and dvd stuff I don't have a open hardware project to refer to. | Dec 20 00:58 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure the emulator is going to help with old floppies | Dec 20 00:58 |
| cubexyz | you have to copy them at least once to get the info | Dec 20 00:58 |
| oiaohm | There is another bit of hardware for driving a modern drive to read old drives. | Dec 20 00:59 |
| oiaohm | produced floppy discs. | Dec 20 00:59 |
| oiaohm | That going to run into trouble since floppy drives themselves are going out of production. | Dec 20 00:59 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: http://cowlark.com/fluxengine/index.html Basically you put the hxc2001 in the machine and use the fluxengine with a modern floppy drives to read and image the floppies on a PC. | Dec 20 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cowlark.com | FluxEngine | Dec 20 01:01 | |
| oiaohm | Of course you may need to modify the hxc2001 firmware or the fluxengine if it some not handled drive before. | Dec 20 01:01 |
| cubexyz | I still have some old CP/M stuff on 8 inch floppy | Dec 20 01:02 |
| cubexyz | mission improbable, if not impossible | Dec 20 01:02 |
| oiaohm | Depends some of those drives are using the same floppy standard cable as modern drives. | Dec 20 01:02 |
| oiaohm | So some of them can be driven with a fluxengine. | Dec 20 01:03 |
| oiaohm | I have driven a IBM 12 inch floppy drive with a fluxengine. | Dec 20 01:03 |
| oiaohm | Yes a hxc2001 I have used to emulate 8inch and 12inch floppy drives before. | Dec 20 01:03 |
| cubexyz | some of those old drives needed +24V | Dec 20 01:04 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: as I said floppy stuff is fairly worked out you only need to have the drives working in most cases a long enough to image everything. | Dec 20 01:04 |
| oiaohm | IBM ones the control wires are 5 volt. | Dec 20 01:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes the power feed is a bitch to the motor. | Dec 20 01:04 |
| oiaohm | That 12 inch floppy was a 24 volt motor power. | Dec 20 01:05 |
| cubexyz | didn't those old 8 inch drives use 50 pin cables? | Dec 20 01:05 |
| oiaohm | Depends on the model. | Dec 20 01:05 |
| oiaohm | 8 inch and 12 inch drives IBM came in a standard floppy cable connect forms. | Dec 20 01:06 |
| oiaohm | Also there was a 50 pin scsi versions as well. | Dec 20 01:07 |
| oiaohm | Fun part some of the 50 pin scsi version you could open and and find controller board with normal floppy cable across. | Dec 20 01:07 |
| oiaohm | to drive. | Dec 20 01:07 |
| oiaohm | That what I got lucky with the one I end driving with a fluxengine board. | Dec 20 01:08 |
| oiaohm | So it was take scsi controller off put usb fluxengine board on. | Dec 20 01:08 |
| cubexyz | there might be an ISA controller card for the 8 inch floppy drive | Dec 20 01:12 |
| cubexyz | or maybe the onboard controller could work | Dec 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | if the motherboard was old enough | Dec 20 01:13 |
| cubexyz | Altos 8600 used 8 inch floppy drives | Dec 20 01:19 |
| cubexyz | also Tandy 6000, that was probably the last one | Dec 20 01:20 |
| cubexyz | they lingered on until 1988 | Dec 20 01:20 |
| cubexyz | http://www.thepcmuseum.net/details.php?RECORD_KEY%28museum%29=id&id%28museum%29=787&PHPSESSID=6cd5d70f8b01c34347b2e92bdce9361c | Dec 20 01:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thepcmuseum.net | System Details. The Freeman PC Museum... Largest Collection of Vintage Computers On The Web. | Dec 20 01:24 | |
| cubexyz | Oh, and commodore had a 8" floppy drive | Dec 20 01:30 |
| cubexyz | trying to remember what they called it | Dec 20 01:30 |
| cubexyz | 8060, 8061, 8062, and the half-height 8280 which was a monster | Dec 20 01:31 |
| cubexyz | Shugart SA-800 drives I think they had | Dec 20 01:34 |
| cubexyz | you must be a keen archivist oiaohm getting that old stuff working | Dec 20 01:39 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: mine work with old hardware is data recovery jobs. | Dec 20 01:57 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: you know those like 20 year old systems that are running like stupid things. | Dec 20 02:05 |
| oiaohm | Of course by then the software on how it ws configured is lost and they want ti back. | Dec 20 02:06 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: other area where I have need to replace a lot of floppy drives is old cnc milling machines with gcode on floppy. Yes that is a really horrible idea metal fragments and floppy drives don't too out good at all. | Dec 20 02:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | >>> You left up the name waserman in a few posts, never mind, fuck-em :] | Dec 20 05:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 20 05:56 |
| r_schestowitz | >> I did not know the significance of this name | Dec 20 05:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 20 05:56 |
| r_schestowitz | > Doesn't mean anything .. | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > The main purpose of this advertising money is to get them to write nice | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > thing about the company or not write critical things about the company. | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > If you look at the register site without an ad-blocker then you'll see | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > what I mean. Do an article on the main tech blogs online and where their | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | > advertising revenue. | Dec 20 05:57 |
| r_schestowitz | This was mentioned in passing lots and lots of times before. I wrote about it again yesterday. See techrigths' latest. | Dec 20 05:57 |
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| rianne_ | https://www.fossmint.com/best-tools-to-open-rar-files/ | Dec 20 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fossmint.com | 10 Best Tools to Open RAR Files | Dec 20 08:46 | |
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| factor | Saw you guys had the tech rights post for IRC. Have ot gotten the IRC links back up on my page. Trying to make my page solid and then add the IRC stuff again. | Dec 20 10:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | hi factor | Dec 20 10:23 |
| r_schestowitz | what page? | Dec 20 10:23 |
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| factor | Yup | Dec 20 10:25 |
| factor | that page. | Dec 20 10:26 |
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| r_schestowitz | bbl g2g | Dec 20 10:28 |
| factor | I keep up with your site on my page. http://userspace.org in the news section. | Dec 20 10:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-userspace.org | USERSPACE-Linux Aggregate Info | Dec 20 10:32 | |
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| r_schestowitz | factor: oh, I see | Dec 20 15:16 |
| r_schestowitz | thanks | Dec 20 15:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | nice site | Dec 20 15:16 |
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| factor | r_schestowitz, Thanks | Dec 20 18:27 |
| r_schestowitz | yw | Dec 20 18:27 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/642415.png | Dec 20 20:32 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe she likes lotr too | Dec 20 20:36 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19090832 | Dec 20 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 20 22:49 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I went to the chiropractor yesterday. | Dec 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those were the loudest adjustments I've ever had. | Dec 20 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm a bit sore today, but my range of motion is back | Dec 20 23:27 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: https://paste.debian.net/1121950 | Dec 20 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | debian Pastezone | Dec 20 23:42 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19092451 | Dec 20 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Dec 20 23:42 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Indeed pretty close to C and C++ by speed of this algorithm. | Dec 20 23:45 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: But documentation of Zig is just horrid. Or rather, incomplete. | Dec 20 23:47 |
| danielp3344 | what's that quote from coreboot about documentation? | Dec 20 23:47 |
| MinceR | move "zig" !! | Dec 20 23:47 |
| *danielp3344 looks | Dec 20 23:47 | |
| danielp3344 | https://doc.coreboot.org/getting_started/writing_documentation.html | Dec 20 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doc.coreboot.org | coreboot documentation guidelines — coreboot 4.11-551-g520717dff1 documentation | Dec 20 23:48 | |
| XRevan86 | danielp3344: This is a "nothing" case. | Dec 20 23:48 |
| XRevan86 | The only way the std library is documented is through examples. And comments in the source code. | Dec 20 23:49 |
| danielp3344 | this is why we have source code :P\ | Dec 20 23:49 |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/ziglang/zig/blob/19ddbd9/lib/std/fmt.zig#L53 | Dec 20 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zig/fmt.zig at 19ddbd9e9e691ff7ab8789e8c6962497fbba4b88 · ziglang/zig · GitHub | Dec 20 23:50 | |
| XRevan86 | This is where I found out that to get what in Python would look like {:.3f}, I need to write {d:.3} | Dec 20 23:51 |
| XRevan86 | I wouldn't've guessed in a million years. | Dec 20 23:51 |
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