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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Like the military bases in GTA. They'd call in a fighter jet to shoot you down if you flew over one.Jan 21 02:39
DaemonFC[m]Of course, the fighter jet was also something you could steal, or spawn with a cheat code.Jan 21 02:40
DaemonFC[m]Saints Row the Third was the best "GTA" though. :) Jan 21 02:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GParted 1.1 Open-Source Partition Editor Is Out with Various Enhancements, Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133122 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eeece52a-f585-493c-ab90-68aa6843fafa]Jan 21 05:10
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android LeftoversAndroid Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133123 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9744db58-5356-4e7c-aed6-58e91d2076f6]Jan 21 05:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Chromebooks, Lucky Lanterns in Rocket League, Crumble http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133127 [https://pleroma.site/objects/494016a1-9949-479a-ad53-2d629a4768b8]Jan 21 06:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: If George Orwell was alive today, would he be an Internet troll? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133128http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133128 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ad1ccf95-ddbb-4048-8a1b-862bbe5b26db]Jan 21 06:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian Policy Updated Following Recent Systemd "Init System Diversity" Vote http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133129 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d32906b3-4aaf-4912-8c3c-6ecaa2cd062d]Jan 21 06:23
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XRevan86scientes: https://zona.media/news/2020/01/21/bubnov another day, another newsJan 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Суд приговорил приморского последователя «Свидетелей Иеговы» к условному сроку; прокуратура запрашивала семь лет колонииJan 21 13:29
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jagadeessee how socalled free software advocates are thinking about free softwareJan 21 15:28
jagadeeshttps://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/291219/hyderabad-with-credit-and-control-free-software-attracts-developers.htmlJan 21 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deccanchronicle.com | With credit and control, free software attracts developersJan 21 15:28
jagadeesthey says: "Free software movement proponents also give the example of IBM, which sold its punch-card technology to Nazi Germany to be used in concentration camps."Jan 21 15:29
jagadeeswhat kind of a world is thisJan 21 15:30
jagadeesSwecha is a non-profit organization formerly called as Free Software Foundation Andhra Pradesh Jan 21 15:31
jagadeesis there a chance for recovering Free Software movement?Jan 21 15:31
jagadeesno idea. left alone.Jan 21 15:31
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20010724Jan 21 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJan 21 15:42
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jollyhelloJan 21 15:44
XRevan86jolly: hiJan 21 15:57
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/02/bed78b57840a87f3.mp4Jan 21 16:07
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/s2DP7gg.mp4Jan 21 16:33
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jollyanoyne here?Jan 21 16:35
XRevan86MinceR: But it's not paper, liesJan 21 16:36
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swecha  Hmm interesting group.Jan 21 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Swecha - WikipediaJan 21 16:37
XRevan86cool nameJan 21 16:38
jollydoes anyone vandana shiva?Jan 21 16:39
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUvyjrOuMaoJan 21 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Fakes F1 2011 gameplay (with vlc player) on Intel graphics HD - YouTubeJan 21 18:01
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XRevan86https://youtu.be/yiYzsEBCdi0Jan 21 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DRM Chair - YouTubeJan 21 18:35
oiaohmXRevan86: not quite DRM enough that chair it still left behind usable parts.Jan 21 18:41
DaemonFC[m]Nobody alive today could possibly have been materially involved with assisting the Nazis.Jan 21 19:20
DaemonFC[m]But the citizenship form I filled out for my 34 year old spouse from the Philippines asked if he assisted the Nazis.Jan 21 19:20
DaemonFC[m]It actually says something like before May 1945, did you assist the Nazis or something.Jan 21 19:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz I told our lawyer that Skynet was going to send some T-1000s back to help Hitler using its time machine and we were thinking about helping out and I wondered if that would count.Jan 21 19:23
oiaohm1945 you could still get people old enough.     Jan 21 19:24
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/world/europe/nazi-guard-deported.html thinking it was only 2018 we believe the last possible war criminal Nazi was caught.Jan 21 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Ex-Nazi Guard in U.S., Now 95, Is Deported to Germany - The New York TimesJan 21 19:24
oiaohmPlease note that is not absolutely for sure.Jan 21 19:25
DaemonFC[m]People do well to live to 95 anyway.Jan 21 19:25
oiaohmThere still could be people actively helping to hide a Nazi war criminal or two out there.Jan 21 19:25
DaemonFC[m]If they punish him now it's basically too late. He got away.Jan 21 19:26
oiaohmWho are younger.Jan 21 19:26
oiaohmSome of this is closure to get information where people bodies and the like end up.Jan 21 19:26
*XRevan86 wonders if it even makes sense to try to screw people whose wrong-doing is older than half a century.Jan 21 19:27
oiaohmYes you could say he got away.   But that information for the families effected is still worth it. Jan 21 19:27
XRevan86Depends on severity?Jan 21 19:27
oiaohmXRevan86: if they are still hiding information about those crimes I would say yes.Jan 21 19:27
XRevan86Still very close to classical venegance.Jan 21 19:27
DaemonFC[m]> * XRevan86 wonders if it even makes sense to try to screw people whose wrong-doing is older than half a century.Jan 21 19:27
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's a holdover from when America had better leaders and we never stopped pursuing war criminals.Jan 21 19:27
DaemonFC[m]They just never changed the Nazi lawsJan 21 19:28
oiaohmYou got to remember a lot of war criminals hold the information where the bodies in fact ended up.Jan 21 19:29
XRevan86oiaohm: Like that they will never willingly come outJan 21 19:30
DaemonFC[m]The new Edge apparently shoves Bing in your face like never before.Jan 21 19:30
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oiaohmXRevan86: exactly the point while they are hiding that information is likely to die with them.Jan 21 19:31
oiaohmso you really do have to hunt them down to extract that information.Jan 21 19:31
XRevan86> Crimes considered heinous by society have no statute of limitationsJan 21 19:31
oiaohmAlso remember those crimes are we sure they have not done more since.Jan 21 19:32
oiaohmOnce a person is use to killing has a problem.Jan 21 19:32
XRevan86oiaohm: That can be said about anyone who fought in a war.Jan 21 19:33
XRevan86no matter if they've crossed the line or notJan 21 19:33
XRevan86oiaohm: Anyway, what I'm wondering about is, if they've successfully managed to lay low, clearly they haven't done anything noteworthy ever since.Jan 21 19:34
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much.Jan 21 19:35
oiaohmXRevan86: The tracking of war veterans is standard in most countries.   So even if they have not crossed the line they are kept tabs on.Jan 21 19:35
DaemonFC[m]The government is unlikely to ever find someone who has been living on documents they forged in the 50s or something.Jan 21 19:35
XRevan86oiaohm: Prosecution is different from keeping tabs on though.Jan 21 19:36
XRevan86But what's really the point other than venegance then?Jan 21 19:36
oiaohmJust because someone has not done anything noteworthy themselves does not mean they are not teaching another generation their beliefs either.Jan 21 19:37
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oiaohmProsecution of those who have crossed the line is for  few different reasons. Jan 21 19:38
oiaohm1) is closure to get the information to allow that.Jan 21 19:38
XRevan861) in this sense it's almost counter-productiveJan 21 19:38
oiaohm2) is get them located and contained if possible so they cannot teach on their bad believes that allowed the behavour.Jan 21 19:38
oiaohmThe second one is fairly important.Jan 21 19:39
oiaohmXRevan86: Of course I will not say that 3 revenge is not a play.Jan 21 19:40
XRevan86This makes me wonder what kinds of beliefs these people even have…Jan 21 19:40
oiaohmXRevan86: exactly sometimes to answer that question there is only one way as well catch them.Jan 21 19:41
XRevan86oiaohm: But I really doubt they have some exceptional very evil beliefsJan 21 19:41
MinceRwhat is this, thought police?Jan 21 19:42
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The FBI has been rounding up Neo Nazis.Jan 21 19:42
oiaohmSome of the nazi/ neo-nazism do have some highly dangerous beliefs.  That if you don't meet their idea of purity you are not even a human in their eyes no better than kill able beast.Jan 21 19:43
DaemonFC[m]That latest Unite the Right rally in Virginia nabbed at least a dozen.Jan 21 19:43
MinceRnice, the fbi is rebelling against the presidentJan 21 19:43
MinceRabrahamists have highly dangerous beliefs as wellJan 21 19:43
oiaohmI would agree that Trump is not helping things.Jan 21 19:43
XRevan86oiaohm: I doubt that for instance this "Nazi Guard" person kept caring about German superiority.Jan 21 19:44
XRevan86As he swallowed his pride well enough to adapt to his new life in the US.Jan 21 19:44
DaemonFC[m]He was probably just some low ranking guy who had orders.Jan 21 19:46
DaemonFC[m]He chose to carry out those orders though, and his mistake. Jan 21 19:46
XRevan8660 years agoJan 21 19:46
oiaohmXRevan86: very dangerous idea in the Nazi camp.   "thousand-year Reich"   idea.     If he believed Hitler got that start of that wrong he could be preparing the future generations for when that appears.Jan 21 19:47
oiaohmThat part of the thing need to find them and work out if they are just some person who was obeying orders or laying the seeds of future problems.Jan 21 19:48
oiaohmUnfortunately some have already succeed to place those seeds.Jan 21 19:48
XRevan86oiaohm: "Listen, son, Fuhrer will always be with you, just believe"?Jan 21 19:48
oiaohmXRevan86: that would be that we got a false Fuhrer Jan 21 19:49
XRevan86oiaohm: Those who layed the seeds didn't lay low.Jan 21 19:49
XRevan86and weren't GermanJan 21 19:49
oiaohmXRevan86: some did as we have seen with the neo-nazi and spread out wider.Jan 21 19:50
XRevan86(probably for the most part)Jan 21 19:50
oiaohmPlease note neo-nazi is not about being superier as german.Jan 21 19:50
XRevan86oiaohm: How many war criminals in their midst?Jan 21 19:50
MinceRit's about being superior as an indian nobleJan 21 19:50
XRevan86As far as I understand, most of them are young adults with visions of the grandeur who got baited on Hitler's symbolism and arguments like "foreigners bad".Jan 21 19:52
oiaohmXRevan86:  white supremacy  and Nazi are fairly close to the same thing.   Nazi never believed they would have had war with england and a few other countries because they believed they would be  white supremacy,Jan 21 19:52
oiaohmThe foreigners bad is wrong.Jan 21 19:52
XRevan86oiaohm: The idea with England was actually pretty simple: they're "close enough".Jan 21 19:53
XRevan86Until England said "no", then it suddenly stopped being "close enough"Jan 21 19:53
MinceRthey were insane so it's not that easy to tell which people they thought were allies and which they wanted to exterminateJan 21 19:53
MinceR(well, they still are)Jan 21 19:53
XRevan86oiaohm: And the Usonian definition of "white" is fuzzy as well.Jan 21 19:53
XRevan86Aren't Jews "white"? Not to Hitler.Jan 21 19:54
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oiaohmXRevan86: Hitler himself did not pass the tests for being pure enough.Jan 21 19:54
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XRevan86Am I "white"? Hitler would argue that I'm more a pig than a human.Jan 21 19:54
MinceRlolJan 21 19:54
XRevan86oiaohm: Like he was a rational man, yes %)Jan 21 19:55
oiaohmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryanism << I could not remember the term this is Nazi.Jan 21 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Aryanism - WikipediaJan 21 19:56
oiaohmI said white but its Aryanism.Jan 21 19:57
MinceRyou did nazi that one coming?Jan 21 19:57
XRevan86oiaohm: Yes, right.Jan 21 19:57
oiaohmStill completely stupid and insane.Jan 21 19:57
XRevan86oiaohm: And he thought that only Germans are true Aryan descendants.Jan 21 19:57
oiaohmIn fact no if you read Hitlers writings.Jan 21 19:57
MinceRgermany is the new indiaJan 21 19:57
oiaohmThis is why they took war prisonners from particular nations and attempted to treat them well.Jan 21 19:58
XRevan86And English are mostly German (let's not overthink that, Hitler sure hasn't), so they kind of passed "the test". Until they "betrayed" him, "showing" that no.Jan 21 19:58
oiaohmAnd if you were not from particular nations you were mega screwed.Jan 21 19:58
MinceR:>Jan 21 19:58
oiaohmHe we don't need to feed you hello firing squad on your first day captured.Jan 21 19:59
oiaohmHe/heyJan 21 19:59
XRevan86oiaohm: I guess he included Spaniards, Italians and the like into his club.Jan 21 19:59
oiaohmYou did not want to be a dark skin Spaniard or Italian or you were screwed Jan 21 20:00
oiaohmThis Aryanism stuff is horrible.Jan 21 20:00
MinceRit was also stupidJan 21 20:01
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryanism#Nazi_AryanismJan 21 20:01
XRevan86MinceR: Really? You don't sayJan 21 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Aryanism - WikipediaJan 21 20:01
XRevan86> Günther identified Jews as descending from non-European races, particularly from what he classified as the Near Asian race (Vorderasiatische) more commonly known as the Armenoid race, and said that such origins rendered Jews fundamentally different from and incompatible with Germans and most EuropeansJan 21 20:03
XRevan86> Günther believed Slavic people to be of "Eastern race", one that was separate from Germans and Nordics, and warned about mixing "German blood" with Slavic one.Jan 21 20:03
XRevan86> These and other ideas evolved into the Nazi use of the term "Aryan race" to refer to what they saw as being a superior race, which was narrowly defined by the Nazis as being identical with the Nordic race, followed by other sub-races of the Aryan race and excluding Slavs as non-Aryan.Jan 21 20:05
MinceRah yes, i remember all those nordics in indiaJan 21 20:05
XRevan86Anyway, it's really just stupid rationalisation of an us-them mentality.Jan 21 20:08
XRevan86I bet the "racial hierarchy" closely correlates with proportions of the populations with these phenotypes in the areas where Günther and Hitler lived.Jan 21 20:09
XRevan86The most familiar being the most "superior".Jan 21 20:09
oiaohmYou don't want this stupid rationalisation being taught on as right.Jan 21 20:11
MinceRyou also can't really prevent it, other than disproving and discrediting itJan 21 20:13
MinceRor by sacrificing human rights i would not want to give upJan 21 20:14
XRevan86The only cure is removing the link between phenotypes and success (class).Jan 21 20:15
XRevan86So that people who look one particular way don't generally all live under bridges and look unclean.Jan 21 20:16
XRevan86Because humans generally think that the world is just, and on large successful people deserve success and unsuccessful people deserve failure.Jan 21 20:19
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MinceRhumans are generally idiotsJan 21 20:19
MinceRthat is a problemJan 21 20:19
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XRevan86It's also an indicator than the society and its institutions is objectively treating a group of people like shit.Jan 21 20:20
XRevan86if it subjectively thinks that they deserve to be treated like shitJan 21 20:21
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MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/03/0dd0a7af3950c5c2.mp4Jan 21 20:26
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DaemonFC[m]https://qz.com/758302/bloated-web-one-article-shouldnt-need-55-pages-of-code-to-show-up-on-your-phone/Jan 21 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Bloated web: One article shouldn't need 55 pages of code to show up on your phone — QuartzJan 21 21:35
DaemonFC[m]485,000 lines for an 800 word article.Jan 21 21:39
DaemonFC[m]One tracker script was 30,000 lines of that.Jan 21 21:40
DaemonFC[m]When I had a Geocities site years ago, the scrips were to remove their ad bar. I got around the per account data limits by hosting my downloads on other free accounts.Jan 21 21:44
DaemonFC[m]Eventually, Mike Healan of spywareinfo hosted my ad blocker stuff.Jan 21 21:46
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DaemonFC[m]Someone asked if they could use my lists as the basis of a proximatron and privoxy ad blocker, so I said yeah. I said I didn't know if a list of ad servers could be copyrighted, but included a header that is basically the ISC license.Jan 21 21:58
DaemonFC[m]So I'm glad that there was a list ready to go to base these early local proxy ad blockers on. Eventually I gave up on the HOSTS file and recommended them.Jan 21 21:58
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/03/3ee7532063f012e7.jpgJan 21 21:59
DaemonFC[m]It greatly simplified things because instead of an incredibly long list with a ton of subdomains, you just configured your applications to use the proxy and it dropped whatever domain wasn't allowed.Jan 21 22:00
DaemonFC[m]In some ways it was superior to Adblock Plus for many years. Because Adblock Plus ran just in the browser and would inject stylesheets in every single tab and before you knew it Firefox was sitting there eating almost 2 GB of RAM.Jan 21 22:01
DaemonFC[m]So on my 2003 laptop with Crunchbang,  the only way to make it possible to browse with Firefox was sending everything through Privoxy.Jan 21 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Jamie Zawinski added some code to break Facebook's ability to track outbound links.Jan 21 22:03
DaemonFC[m]I laughed.Jan 21 22:03
MinceRi laugh at jwz tooJan 21 22:04
DaemonFC[m]I've been slowly moving over to Chromium Freeworld.Jan 21 22:05
DaemonFC[m]This latest bullshit from Mozilla left a bunch of politically correct dead weight at Mozilla and sent some of their best engineers to Google and Apple.Jan 21 22:06
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20010662Jan 21 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJan 21 22:28
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/01/ubuntu-removes-the-amazon-web-appJan 21 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Finally Removes the Amazon Web App You Never Use - OMG! Ubuntu!Jan 21 23:29
psydroidit's about timeJan 21 23:48
psydroidwhich app are we going to use now?Jan 21 23:49

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