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● Mar 21
[00:03]	Sompi	Actually it seems that the laptop does some checks to make sure that the bootable drive contains a MSDOS-compatible partitioning table, before it transfers the control to the bootloader
[00:04]	Sompi	So in "legacy" mode it is bootlocked to operating system that use MSDOS-style partitioning
[00:04]	XRevan86	Sompi: Maybe. How do ye know though?
[00:04]	Sompi	It booted iPXE and I changed stuff there with a hex editor
[00:04]	Sompi	https://stanislavs.org/helppc/disk_partition_table.html
[00:04]	TR Bot	 disk partition table
[00:05]	Sompi	It seems to check that the boot indicator bytes are all either 00 or 80
[00:05]	Sompi	If some of them isn't, the laptop refuses to boot
[00:05]	Sompi	That's a nonstandard thing and there is absolutely no reason to do that
[00:06]	Sompi	The firmware shoud not anything with that partitioning information
[00:06]	Sompi	should*
[00:06]	Sompi	And in UEFI mode the laptop can only boot from its internal hard disk. All other boot options vanish when the UEFI mode is selected
[00:08]	XRevan86	Sompi: "laptop does some checks to make sure that the bootable drive contains a MSDOS-compatible partitioning table" <- Could it be for VBR?
[00:10]	XRevan86	Sompi: Why are ye even messing with MBR though?
[00:10]	Sompi	What is a VBR?
[00:13]	Sompi	XRevan86: It seems to check for MSDOS-style partitioning (that microsoft calls MBR), for some reason
[00:14]	Sompi	And the firmware refuses to transfer the control to the boot sector code if there isn't a MSDOS-style partition table present
[00:15]	XRevan86	Sompi: The boot sector code is part of the MBR.
[00:16]	XRevan86	VBR is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_boot_record , a boot sector stored in a partition.
[00:16]	TR Bot	 Volume boot record - Wikipedia
[00:18]	XRevan86	"that microsoft calls MBR" <- Does "MBR" really sound more Microsoft-like than "MSDOS-style partitioning"?
[00:18]	Sompi	So with MSDOS-style partitioning, the "VBR" is the first sector of the "active" partitioning
[00:19]	Sompi	XRevan86: Most GNU partitioning tools call it "msdos partitioning" because MBR is so easily confused with the boot sector
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[00:20]	XRevan86	Sompi: Does fdisk?
[00:21]	Sompi	yes
[00:21]	Sompi	"  o   create a new empty DOS partition table"
[00:22]	Sompi	(from fdisk menu)
[00:22]	XRevan86	Can't easily check, I don't have any MBR in the vicinity.
[00:24]	XRevan86	Except for "Protective MBR", of course.
[00:25]	Sompi	The behaviour of that laptop's firmware makes no sense
[00:25]	MinceR	i suspect that TianoCore is just broken and all these firmware developers just put clothes on that broken mess
[00:26]	XRevan86	InsydeH2O specifically.
[00:27]	Sompi	Is that TianoCore some Intel's thing?
[00:27]	Sompi	Intel and Microsoft spread that disinformation everywhere that traditional BIOS is locked to MSDOS-style partitioning, so it would make sense that their own BIOS implementation has that limitation
[00:27]	XRevan86	It's this: https://tianocore.org/
[00:27]	TR Bot	connect to tianocore.org:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://tianocore.org/ )
[00:28]	Sompi	But that limitation is not in the IBM's official BIOS specification
[00:28]	Sompi	So Intel (and probably Microsoft) just made it up to make UEFI look better in comparison
[00:29]	XRevan86	Sompi: Ye are assuming anyone would notice.
[00:29]	XRevan86	When 99.99999999999% of x86 users have MBR, protective or the real thing, on their drives.
[00:30]	Sompi	Probably most *nix users at least try using something else. GPT or some rarer BSD-specific partitioning
[00:30]	Sompi	So it is weird if no-one notices
[00:30]	XRevan86	Sompi: Protective MBR is even in GPT's specification.
[00:32]	Sompi	Also, didn't the root partition just start from the beginning of the drive in the first versions of BSD? Then in the /etc directory there is a file that contains the information of the other partitions
[00:32]	XRevan86	Protective MBR is an MBR partition table with one single partition that allocates the whole drive (with a size ceiling of course).
[00:33]	Sompi	And that bullshit that some new firmwares are doing is seriously breaking stuff
[00:33]	XRevan86	Sompi: I just checked on YouTube a recording of a person disabling Secure Boot on an Acer Aspire E15.
[00:33]	XRevan86	Sompi: And the trick I told you worked for them.
[00:34]	XRevan86	Set Supervisor password Disable Secure Boot Unset Supervisor password
[00:34]	Sompi	XRevan86: But that protective MBR is meant for compatibility with operating systems that only support msdos partitioning. It's not for compatibility with firmwares. Non-UEFI don't care about the partitioning
[00:35]	Sompi	XRevan86: I tried it and the secure boot is always enabled again when I clear the password
[00:35]	Sompi	So the firmware versions are not the same
[00:35]	XRevan86	I'm already going to acer.com
[00:37]	XRevan86	The latest for E5-576G is 1.49, the YouTube person had 1.29
[00:37]	XRevan86	I suppose it's possible they changed it in between those.
[00:38]	XRevan86	But probably not, since I just found a recording of a much newer Acer laptop with InsydeH2O where the same thing is done.
[00:39]	Sompi	That laptop has firmware version 1.31
[00:42]	XRevan86	Though maybe not, there's no visual confirmation there.
[00:45]	Sompi	How many UEFI- and Microsoft-induced security breachs we need until the normies reject this current direction of development?
[00:45]	techuser	They won't. Society is doomed.
[00:46]	Sompi	This is already becoming so ridiculous that I cannot run my own made operating system because of "security", and then the only allowed operating system has a privilege escalation bug that injects who-knows-what to the firmware
[00:47]	Sompi	And now anyone can just hijack anyone's Microsoft account and take their files as a hostage and Microsoft doesn't even consider that a bug
[00:47]	techuser	With smartphones, it is even worse, and people don't complain. So of course they won't when it gets ported to PCs.
[00:49]	Sompi	And even banking stuff is done by closed source smartphones and because that money gets stolen all the time. The banks just pay the money back to their affected customers and raise the service fees
[00:49]	Sompi	They don't even try fixing the security stuff anymore
[00:50]	techuser	They say "trusting computing" is the future. When you control as least as possible.
[00:50]	XRevan86	Sompi: At least MBR boot is available on it.
[00:50]	Sompi	But I don't want to use MBR, I have a better partitioning scheme.
[00:51]	Sompi	And the hard disk is too large that it could be properly used with Microsoft's MBR partitioning
[00:51]	XRevan86	Sompi: "And the hard disk is too large that it could be properly used with Microsoft's MBR partitioning" <- With GPT it's not.
[00:52]	Sompi	But the firmware refuses to transfer the control to the bootsector code if there isn't a MBR partitioning table
[00:52]	Sompi	And I don't want to use GPT either, it's bad design in other ways
[00:52]	techuser	Speaking of UEFI, on my laptop manufactured in 2011, it behaves weidly. When making changes to EFI variables, it reboots. Somehow managed to install a bootloader though.
[00:52]	XRevan86	Sompi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Protective_MBR_(LBA_0)
[00:52]	TR Bot	 GUID Partition Table - Wikipedia
[00:53]	techuser	At least, changing from an operating system. A shell seems to work.
[00:54]	XRevan86	Sompi: For GRUB the instruction is https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB#BIOS_systems
[00:54]	TR Bot	 GRUB - ArchWiki
[00:55]	Sompi	XRevan86: But I don't want to use GRUB either
[00:55]	Sompi	The firmware should just load the boot sector to address 7C00 and jump to it. That's what the specification says
[00:56]	Sompi	The firmware doesn't care about partitioning
[00:56]	XRevan86	Sompi: Alright, do that, just make sure your bootloader can find a GPT partition.
[00:56]	Sompi	Or it shouldn't
[00:56]	XRevan86	Or whatever it is ye want to do.
[00:56]	Sompi	XRevan86: My bootloader doesn't use any partitioning atm
[00:56]	XRevan86	Sompi: No problem then
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● Mar 21
[01:04]	Sompi	I'm interested in what part of TianoCore's source code checks the presence of the msdos partition table
[01:05]	XRevan86	None because TianoCore doesn't handle "Legacy Boot" and MinceR didn't think that quip through (:
[01:06]	Sompi	ok
[01:06]	Sompi	Is there a reference implementation of CSM then?
[01:07]	XRevan86	Sompi: No, it's all proprietary BIOS' at that point.
[01:07]	XRevan86	Sompi: There's SeaBIOS but it has no relation to anything your system uses.
[01:09]	XRevan86	But just FYI, it's possible to use SeaBIOS as CSM for EDK-II, which is occasionally done with coreboot.
[01:09]	Sompi	So Acer's firmware programmers have just decided so that the computer won't boot if there is no msdos partition table
[01:10]	XRevan86	Sompi: I've no idea. Maybe it's a bug or something they failed to account for since everyone has MBR in some shape or form.
[01:10]	Sompi	https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/838jve/how_is_the_acer_aspire_e_15_e557533bm_on_linux/
[01:10]	XRevan86	Earlier I said "x86" but in practice smartphones also have it.
[01:10]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[01:11]	Sompi	No larger than 2TB hard disks for Linux users. No more than four partitions for Linux users.
[01:11]	XRevan86	"Convert drive from gpt to mbr with gdisk/gparted" <- Don't do that.
[01:11]	MinceR	or they thought it would be funny to have a 'legacy' option with no implementation
[01:11]	XRevan86	Sompi: Again, GPT.
[01:11]	XRevan86	It will work.
[01:12]	Sompi	XRevan86: No, that computer doesn't boot if there isn't msdos prtitioning
[01:12]	XRevan86	Sompi: Ironically, it will not work with *Windows*, because Windows' Boot Manager does not support GPT through "Legacy Boot" (MBR boot).
[01:12]	t0talist	Sompi: the safest bet is to boot from read-only.iso; from a CD-ROM
[01:12]	Sompi	t0talist: It also doesn't have an optical drive.
[01:13]	XRevan86	Sompi: I will give you this link again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Protective_MBR_(LBA_0)
[01:13]	TR Bot	 GUID Partition Table - Wikipedia
[01:13]	XRevan86	Sompi: GPT is designed not to conflict with MBR.
[01:13]	Sompi	These new computers really are completely in Microsoft's pocket
[01:13]	t0talist	Sompi: isohybrid... can modify a read-only.so to make that bootable as both, hard-disk with MBR and bootsector, and from cdrom
[01:14]	t0talist	that's what i am doing; booting from read-only.iso _only_; for the reasons mentioned here already
[01:14]	t0talist	MBRs were prone to viruses spreading... it's nasty
[01:14]	XRevan86	Sompi: Every drive with GPT will also have MBR just because, except for some fringe cases when the user specifically wanted not to have it.
[01:15]	XRevan86	> But that protective MBR is meant for compatibility with operating systems that only support msdos partitioning. It's not for compatibility with firmwares. Non-UEFI don't care about the partitioning
[01:15]	Sompi	But ST-DOS doesn't use GPT either
[01:15]	XRevan86	Sompi: Ye said that yourself. But it really doesn't matter with what compatibility is.
[01:16]	t0talist	btw; usb-dvd drives exist...
[01:16]	XRevan86	Sompi: Are ye booting MS-DOS?
[01:17]	XRevan86	Sompi: `# gdisk -l /dev/sda` Partition table scan: MBR: protective | BSD: not present | APM: not present | GPT: present
[01:18]	XRevan86	> Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
[01:18]	XRevan86	Sompi: If the problem is in that InsydeH2O wants MBR, it will get it even if ye use GPT.
[01:18]	XRevan86	Do ye understand that?
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[01:23]	t0talist	"No larger than 2TB hard disks for Linux users"; that's not entirely true, hard-disks don't need neither a GPT nor MBR, only boot-disks need that, and the limitation of 2TB there often is irelevant
[01:23]	XRevan86	The limitation is irrelevant when GPT is used.
[01:25]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], I figure this market sucks and the landlord is having trouble even getting people to pay their rent. "Positive Vibes" from CNN aren't fixing his problems.
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[01:28]	XRevan86	t0talist: "No larger than 2TB hard disks for Linux users" <- Sompi has drawn that conclusion from a redditor writing "Convert drive from gpt to mbr with gdisk/gparted", I think.
[01:29]	XRevan86	But I use GPT on MBR boot systems for a decade now.
[01:29]	XRevan86	Including this one which is coreboot+SeaBIOS with GPT and GRUB.
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[01:34]	t0talist	i am trying to avoid MBR/GPT wherever possible; hence booting from ISO
[01:35]	Sompi	I could write a simple bootloader with a fake MBR and use it to boot the actual bootloader
[01:35]	XRevan86	t0talist: Is the partition table spying on you?
[01:36]	MinceR	maybe it's just poorly engineered
[01:36]	XRevan86	Sompi: If ye are making a custom partition table, just do what GPT did and make a protective MBR.
[01:37]	XRevan86	MinceR: It's better-engineered that aggi's brain, so doubt it.
[01:37]	Sompi	Actually with modern computers it is possible that some low-level thing like Intel ME is inspecting stuff on the hard drive and it is more likely to fail on doing that if it doesn't understand the partitioning
[01:37]	MinceR	or, in the case of GPT, seen as a small victory for the monstrosity that is trying to shove UEFI down our throats
[01:37]	MinceR	and with it, having our property locked into Backdoors
[01:37]	XRevan86	Sompi: That's definitely not what's going on.
[01:38]	MinceR	how can you tell?
[01:38]	Sompi	GPT and MBR are both almost equally bad partitioning schemes with hard-coded partition structs that limit the maximum amount of partitions
[01:38]	t0talist	the bootsector is dangerous
[01:39]	XRevan86	Told you partition tables spy on t0talist
[01:39]	t0talist	not the partition tables, the bootsector is dangerous
[01:39]	XRevan86	MinceR: Looks like bad code inside CSM rather than anything else.
[01:40]	XRevan86	t0talist: I guess Secure Boot was made for you.
[01:40]	Sompi	Though with MBR the extended partitions can be nested infinitely, but then there is the 2 TB size limit
[01:40]	XRevan86	Sompi: The limitation of GPT is 128 partitions.
[01:41]	Sompi	UEFI's Secure boot doesn't even prevent rootkits. The only way to prevent them is to boot from a physically write protected media.
[01:41]	Sompi	XRevan86: I know
[01:42]	t0talist	i'm using read-only.iso and scrambled root.squashfs instead; no need to trust the uefi malware
[01:42]	XRevan86	Sompi: Eh, I wasn't being serious, t0talist is just paranoid.
[01:43]	t0talist	if they can't unscramble root.squashfs, tampering any mbr/bootsector would be useless too
[01:43]	t0talist	meh, it's just best-practice, to keep some stuff READ-ONLY
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[01:43]	t0talist	some decades ago, 1.4MiB Floppy Disks, got a read-only switch, just for that... everyone must have been paranoid at that time
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[01:44]	XRevan86	Sompi: Also if ye're sceptical about my saying that, he said several times that women are trying to seduce him as a ploy by the government to increase population.
[01:45]	Sompi	But it still isn't wise to trust UEFI's secure boot
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[01:45]	XRevan86	It's not, it was my attempt at humour.
[01:45]	XRevan86	aggi and Secure Boot being closer together that one would think.
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[01:46]	t0talist	just saying, a usb-dvd drive, that's rather useful nowadays; to boot any linux live.iso with
[01:47]	t0talist	if you pick some which supports dvd-rw; a disk can be reused even
[01:47]	Sompi	I have a USB stick that has a write protect switch, but I don't know how it really works. Does it just affect the firmware of the USB stick or does it physically disconnect a write line to the flash memory chip inside?
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[01:48]	Sompi	When something really needs to be read-only, floppies and optical disks are the only things that I trust
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[01:50]	t0talist	btw. dvd-rw aren't 100% bullet-proof either; although i don't expect an attack on this in practice, because other options would be less troublesome for firmware vendors
[01:51]	t0talist	if you remember, cd/dvd-rw, can be "finalized", or not, and when those aren't, tracks can be added
[01:51]	t0talist	so, i could imagine, hidden tracks may be added, by elaborate firmwares, which is, just as said, complicated, and other options exist in practice
[01:51]	t0talist	and once there is UEFI or any other proprietary firmware, hijacking a read-only.iso boot sequence may not be necessary anyway
[01:52]	Sompi	With floppies you can just cut the write wire from the flat cable.
[01:53]	t0talist	i am not sure, if floppy read-only switch is a soft-switch only; which a floppy drive may or may not respond to appropriately
[01:53]	t0talist	nonetheless, it's usefull, and md5summing any floppy.img or cdrom.iso, that's trivial forensics
[01:54]	t0talist	another reason why, read-only boot sequence is important, more important than uefi "secure boot"
[01:54]	t0talist	because, with read-only, a chain of trust can be established _without_ relying on "secure boot" from uefi malware vendors
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[01:55]	Sompi	I think the read-only switch on floppies is purely mechanical and the drive continuously sends +5V to the write-protect line when the write-protect switch is ON. But a mechanical malfunction can always prevent it from working, and the safest option is to just cut the write line from the flat cable.
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[01:56]	t0talist	Sompi: thanks for the hint
[01:57]	Sompi	Also it may be possible to hijack the FDC's firmware and bypass the protection, if the write protect notch does not physically disconnect the write wire by itself. That's why it is better to cut that wire completely from the cable
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[01:57]	MinceR	21 023930 < XRevan86> MinceR: Looks like bad code inside CSM rather than anything else.
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[01:57]	MinceR	oh, i thought in general
[01:57]	MinceR	not "what's preventing it from booting this time"
[01:57]	Sompi	In some drives the write protect notch probably does disconnect the write line physically.
[01:58]	t0talist	it's intersting, both floppy read-only and read-only.iso booting were abandoned in practice, often
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[01:59]	t0talist	meanwhile, i am struggling with linux KBuild to support tcc compiler... almost forgot why i gave up last time i tried
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[02:00]	TR Bot	 System76 Meerkat Mini-Linux PC - Now with Up to Intel Core i7-1260P - Slashdot
[02:01]	t0talist	linux Kbuild, is awful, and it too has gotten worse since version 2.4/2.6
[02:02]	TR News	"For the uninitiated, the Raspberry Pi is a single-board computer that runs the Linux operating system. It can be either operated as a desktop computer or as an embedded system (i.e., a custom electronic device), or both." https://mindmatters.ai/2023/03/the-raspberry-pi-phenomenon/
[02:02]	TR Bot	 The Raspberry Pi Phenomenon | Mind Matters
[02:02]	Sompi	For some reason corporations think that it is safer to just have a proprietary code calculating the checksums of public keys that the user cannot change themself. And that everyone desperately needs that kind of "protection", not just the enterprise customers.
[02:03]	Sompi	So that "protection" needs to be forced to everyone.
[02:03]	TR News	"The AlmaLinux OS Foundation, the nonprofit that stewards the community owned and governed open source CentOS Linux replacement AlmaLinux, today announced its two newest sponsors, OpenLogic by Perforce and Hawk Host, Inc." https://financialpost.com/pmn/press-releases-pmn/business-wire-news-releases-pmn/almalinux-os-foundation-welcomes-openlogic-and-hawk-host-as-newest-sponsors
[02:03]	TR Bot	 AlmaLinux OS Foundation Welcomes OpenLogic and Hawk Host as Newest Sponsors | Financial Post
[02:04]	TR News	Neowin and Beta'news' publish "Linux" themed spam
[02:05]	TR News	When when WinBuzzer (Microsoft booster site) mentions "Linux" it is to hail Windows. BTW, WSL is hardly mentioned anywhere anymore. Microsoft will kill this project this year or in a few years. It failed.
[02:06]	TR News	Ubuntu Prepares for Stable Steam Snap Release https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-steam-snap/
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Prepares for Stable Steam Snap Release
[02:08]	Sompi	For some reason the users of WSL usually don't know how WSL is.
[02:08]	schestowitz[TR]	how or what?
[02:10]	Sompi	First they say that it isn't a VM, but then they say that it is a VM
[02:10]	TR News	Standard Life Paper Mills in Edinburgh http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/the-paper-mills-in-edinburgh/
[02:10]	DaemonFC	https://www.marketplace.org/2023/03/20/is-switzerland-still-synonymous-with-banking/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 Standard Life Paper Mills in Edinburgh | Techrights
[02:10]	TR Bot	 Credit Suisse drama threatens Switzerland's banking image - Marketplace
[02:10]	Sompi	then they say that it is Linux as Windows application
[02:10]	TR News	Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings): Three Weeks to Merely Start Investigating Pension Fraud (and Only After Repeated Reminders From the Frauds Victims) http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/kafka-life/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings): Three Weeks to Merely Start Investigating Pension Fraud (and Only After Repeated Reminders From the Frauds Victims) | Techrights
[02:10]	DaemonFC	A lot of people don't like Americans, so they put their money in Credit Suisse.....and now it's gone.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	LOL
[02:10]	TR News	An Update on Sirius Open Source Pensiongate: Its Looking Worse Than Ever http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/sirius-open-source-pensiongate-update/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 An Update on Sirius Open Source Pensiongate: Its Looking Worse Than Ever | Techrights
[02:10]	schestowitz[TR]	Sompi: it's a hack
[02:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like cygwin
[02:11]	DaemonFC	Including Saudi Prince Bone Saw, who just lost most of $1.5 billion dollars from the sovereign wealth fund.
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: happpeend in 20008
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	history repeats itself
[02:11]	TR News	Pension Fraud Investigation Not a High Priority in Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/standard-life-asleep/
[02:11]	TR Bot	 Pension Fraud Investigation Not a High Priority in Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) | Techrights
[02:11]	MinceR	Sompi: afaik WSL1 was a compatibility hack and WSL2 is basically just Hype-V dressed up
[02:12]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: from what i have read this already ripples in africa, ausatralia, even scandinavia
[02:12]	schestowitz[TR]	all those companies are connected
[02:12]	TR News	Great Things Brewing http://techrights.org/2023/03/19/great-things-brewing/
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Great Things Brewing | Techrights
[02:12]	Sompi	Windows 2000 also has a POSIX compatibility layer, but AFAIK it's not _binary_-compatible with any of the existing UNIX variants.
[02:12]	Sompi	But it has all the POSIX syscalls
[02:12]	TR News	Services and Users TRApped in Telescreen-Running Apps http://techrights.org/2023/03/19/the-trapps-trap/
[02:12]	TR Bot	 Services and Users TRApped in Telescreen-Running Apps | Techrights
[02:13]	MinceR	and it has a korn shell clone that MICROS~1 claimed was fully compatible and David Korn claimed wasn't fully compatible :)
[02:13]	TR News	Terrible new list, mostly proprietary junk https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/20/best-virtual-machine-software-of-2023-top-3/
[02:13]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/03/20/best-virtual-machine-software-of-2023-top-3/ )
[02:14]	MinceR	and couldn't access the display without going through the Win32 part :>
[02:15]	TR News	How to Install and Use NPX in Linux https://linuxtldr.com/npx-package-runner/
[02:15]	TR Bot	 How to Install and Use NPX in Linux
[02:19]	DaemonFC	Yes, but their goal wasn't to make the posix layer something you'd want to use.
[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:20]	DaemonFC	It was to get contracts with agencies that had to buy a posix compatible system.
[02:21]	TR News	IcedIDs VNC Backdoors: Dark Cat, Anubis & Keyhole https://blog.nviso.eu/2023/03/20/icedids-vnc-backdoors-dark-cat-anubis-keyhole/
[02:21]	TR Bot	 IcedID's VNC Backdoors: Dark Cat, Anubis & Keyhole
[02:22]	TR News	Canonical joins the confidential computing consortium https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-joins-the-confidential-computing-consortium
[02:22]	TR Bot	joins the confidential computing consortium | Ubuntu
[02:22]	DaemonFC	https://www.unix.com/what-is-on-your-mind-/33991-windows-korn-shell.html
[02:22]	TR Bot	 Windows and the Korn shell
[02:22]	TR News	Automotive consortiums: Setting new standards for safety and cybersecurity https://ubuntu.com//blog/automotive-consortiums-setting-new-standards-for-safety-and-cybersecurity
[02:22]	TR Bot	consortiums: Setting new standards for safety and cybersecurity | Ubuntu
[02:23]	t0talist	i'm back again, where i was already...
[02:24]	TR News	Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) Does Not Take Pension Fraud Seriously Enough https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/03/20/pension-fraud-standard-life/
[02:24]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) Does Not Take Pension Fraud Seriously Enough
[02:24]	TR News	In First Two Months of 2023 More Than 20,000 ADDITIONAL Welsh and English People Died (Above Pre-Pandemic Levels) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/03/20/pre-pandemic-levels-pov/
[02:24]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In First Two Months of 2023 More Than 20,000 ADDITIONAL Welsh and English People Died (Above Pre-Pandemic Levels)
[02:24]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: ^^
[02:24]	TR News	Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) Takes No Action on Fraud Report (Committed Using Standard Lifes Name) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/03/20/phoenix-group-holdings-fraud-report/
[02:24]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) Takes No Action on Fraud Report (Committed Using Standard Lifes Name)
[02:25]	Sompi	Can someone recommend Gemini clients for Linux and DOS?
[02:25]	TR News	Media calls mass layoffs "corrections" https://qz.com/amazon-meta-twitter-tech-industry-layoffs-downsizing-1850245076 There have bee many "corrections" in this "slowing growth" economy....
[02:25]	TR Bot	 Amazon has now announced lay offs for almost 30,000 employees
[02:26]	schestowitz[TR]	"corrections" :-)
[02:26]	DaemonFC	"Korn: This story is true. It was at a USENIX Windows NT conference and Microsoft was presenting their future directions for NT. One of their speakers said that they would release a UNIX integration package for NT that would contain the Korn Shell.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	I knew that Microsoft had licensed a number of tools from MKS so I came to the microphone to tell the speaker that this was not the "real" Korn Shell and that MKS was not even compatible with ksh88. I had no intention of embarrassing him and thought that he would explain the compromises that Microsoft had to make in choosing MKS Korn Shell. Instead, he insisted that I was wrong and that Microsoft had indeed chosen a "real" Korn Shell. After a 
[02:26]	DaemonFC	couple of exchanges, I shut up and let him dig himself in deeper. Finally someone in the audience stood up and told him what almost everyone in the audience knew, that I had written the 'real' Korn Shell. I think that this is symbolic about the way the company works."
[02:26]	schestowitz[TR]	headline wa,s "New Amazon layoffs are the latest correction to years of over-hiring in the tech industry"
[02:26]	schestowitz[TR]	schestowitz-pi2: telescope
[02:26]	schestowitz[TR]	and amfora
[02:27]	schestowitz[TR]	Sompi: ^
[02:27]	schestowitz[TR]	for command line
[02:27]	schestowitz[TR]	amfora is more feature-rich
[02:28]	TR News	The Fed is about to meetand economists remain very much split on the prospect for a rate hike https://qz.com/the-fed-is-about-to-meet-and-economists-remain-very-mu-1850244087
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Economists remain very much split on the prospect for a Fed rate hike
[02:28]	TR News	Macron narrowly won a no-confidence vote as protestors shut down France https://qz.com/macron-no-confidence-vote-retirement-age-protests-1850244395
[02:28]	TR Bot	 French president Macron narrowly survives no-confidence vote
[02:30]	TR News	Switzerland: we're known for our chocolates and BAILOUTS https://qz.com/credit-suisse-biggest-losers-shareholders-ubs-takeover-1850242803
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Who are Credit Suisse's biggest losers in the UBS takeover?
[02:32]	TR News	UBS's takeover of Credit Suisse failed to reassure markets https://qz.com/ubs-credit-suisse-takeover-markets-reaction-1850242566
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Why UBS's takeover of Credit Suisse failed to reassure markets
[02:32]	t0talist	when i decided, to designate kernel-5.10 series for development... because year2038, i had forgotten, what a headache this was, inside Kbuild
[02:32]	TR News	Flagstar Bank bought most of Signature Banks deposits https://qz.com/signature-bank-flagstar-fdic-assets-sale-svb-1850242551
[02:32]	TR Bot	 What Flagstar Bank is buying as part of the Signature Bank deal
[02:33]	TR News	Oracle Adds Virtual Nodes to Managed Kubernetes Service https://containerjournal.com/features/oracle-adds-virtual-nodes-to-managed-kubernetes-service/
[02:33]	TR Bot	 Oracle Adds Virtual Nodes to Managed Kubernetes Service - Container Journal
[02:33]	t0talist	so, i'll have to begin, where linux-2.4 support started with i386-tcc; and then gradually move forward, to 2.6, then to x86_64-tcc
[02:33]	t0talist	and i'll not arrive at linux-5.10 from there; i doubt i ever will
[02:34]	TR News	They're just calling everything, "hey hi" (AI), any sort of "logic" in algorithms. All for hype's sake. https://containerjournal.com/features/devsecops-use-cases-for-ai-assisted-kubernetes/
[02:34]	TR Bot	 DevSecOps Use Cases for AI-Assisted Kubernetes - Container Journal
[02:34]	t0talist	for two reasons: i miss the competence and resource; and the disadvantages of moving to linux-5.10 overwhelm
[02:34]	TR News	curl 8.0.0 is here https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/20/curl-8-0-0-is-here/
[02:35]	TR Bot	8.0.0 is here | daniel.haxx.se
[02:35]	TR News	curl 8.0.1 because I jinxed it https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/20/curl-8-0-1-because-i-jinxed-it/
[02:35]	TR Bot	8.0.1 because I jinxed it | daniel.haxx.se
[02:35]	t0talist	in the end, this reduced available options, when year2038 is mandatory: x86_64 only because, linux-2.6 (or any later i can forward-port)
[02:36]	TR News	Destination Linux 316: Running at SCALE 20x Plus Nord VPN Goes Open Source https://destinationlinux.org/episode-316/
[02:36]	TR Bot	 316: Running at SCALE 20x Plus Nord VPN Goes Open Source - Destination Linux
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200323.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200323.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-200323.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-200323.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 20, 2023
[02:37]	t0talist	linux-4.x series, seems difficult already; maybe i have a little more luck, with any linux-3.x series
[02:37]	TR News	Does Gaming Add Any Value to College Students? https://emorywheel.com/does-gaming-add-any-value-to-college-students/
[02:37]	TR Bot	 Does Gaming Add Any Value to College Students? | The Emory Wheel
[02:38]	t0talist	it's not that important, because none of those is year2038 ready with 32bit; so i'll have to move to 64bit anyway
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200323.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200323.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-200323.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-200323.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 20, 2023
[02:38]	TR News	Excess profits tax could be imposed on banks and energy sector in Latvia https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/20.03.2023-excess-profits-tax-could-be-imposed-on-banks-and-energy-sector-in-latvia.a501626/
[02:38]	TR Bot	 Excess profits tax could be imposed on banks and energy sector / Article
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200323.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200323.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-200323.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-200323.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 20, 2023
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200323.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200323.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-200323.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-200323.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, March 20, 2023
[02:41]	t0talist	oh, and i see, inside linux-2.6 Kbuild system, there is exactly the same problem, i stumbled upon with any later
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-03-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-03-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:42]	t0talist	which is some weird code-generation (gcc -S), that tcc doesn't support, and which i don't know what's that good for
[02:42]	TR News	Canadian Chamber of Commerce Warns on Government-Backed Bill C-18 Motion: A Serious Threat to the Privacy of Canadians https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/03/canadian-chamber-of-commerce-warns-on-government-backed-bill-c-18-motion-a-serious-threat-to-the-privacy-of-canadians/
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Canadian Chamber of Commerce Warns on Government-Backed Bill C-18 Motion: A Serious Threat to the Privacy of Canadians - Michael Geist
[02:42]	t0talist	anyway, with linux-2.4, there isn't any filesystem available, wich was year2038 ready; otherwise i was willing to stick to linux-2.4!!!
[02:43]	TR News	The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 160: Peter Carrescia on Why Patents Wont Solve Canadas Innovation Problem https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/03/law-bytes-podcast-episode-160/
[02:43]	TR Bot	 The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 160: Peter Carrescia on Why Patents Wont Solve Canadas Innovation Problem - Michael Geist
[02:44]	t0talist	yep, linux-2.4 got x86_64, which should be mostly safe with year2038; however, the filesystems aren't
[02:44]	t0talist	nilfs2 was introdued with linux-2.6; so i had to backport this to linux-2.4
[02:45]	TR News	Millions Stolen in Hack at Cryptocurrency ATM Manufacturer General Bytes https://www.securityweek.com/millions-stolen-in-hack-at-cryptocurrency-atm-manufacturer-general-bytes/
[02:45]	TR Bot	Stolen in Hack at Cryptocurrency ATM Manufacturer General Bytes - SecurityWeek
[02:45]	TR News	Hitachi Energy Blames Data Breach on Zero-Day as Ransomware Gang Threatens Firm https://www.securityweek.com/hitachi-energy-blames-data-breach-on-zero-day-as-ransomware-gang-threatens-firm/
[02:45]	TR Bot	Energy Blames Data Breach on Zero-Day as Ransomware Gang Threatens Firm - SecurityWeek
[02:45]	TR News	NBA Notifying Individuals of Data Breach at Mailing Services Provider https://www.securityweek.com/nba-notifying-individuals-of-data-breach-at-mailing-services-provider/
[02:45]	TR Bot	Notifying Individuals of Data Breach at Mailing Services Provider - SecurityWeek
[02:45]	TR News	Adobe Acrobat Sign Abused to Distribute Malware https://www.securityweek.com/adobe-acrobat-sign-abused-to-distribute-malware/
[02:45]	TR Bot	Acrobat Sign Abused to Distribute Malware - SecurityWeek
[02:46]	TR News	New York Man Arrested for Running BreachForums Cybercrime Website https://www.securityweek.com/new-york-man-arrested-for-running-breachforums-cybercrime-forum/
[02:46]	TR Bot	York Man Arrested for Running BreachForums Cybercrime Website - SecurityWeek
[02:46]	TR News	Maintenance release: Godot 4.0.1 https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-4-0-1/
[02:46]	TR Bot	 Maintenance release: Godot 4.0.1
[02:47]	TR News	Andy Wingo: a world to win: webassembly for the rest of us https://wingolog.org/archives/2023/03/20/a-world-to-win-webassembly-for-the-rest-of-us
[02:47]	TR Bot	 a world to win: webassembly for the rest of us -- wingolog
[02:48]	TR News	How To Install KDE Plasma Desktop on Fedora 37 https://idroot.us/install-kde-plasma-desktop-fedora-37/
[02:48]	TR Bot	 How To Install KDE Plasma Desktop on Fedora 37 - idroot
[02:48]	TR News	5 Ways To Count The Number Of Lines In A File In Linux https://itsubuntu.com/count-the-number-of-lines-in-a-file-in-linux/
[02:48]	TR Bot	Ways To Count The Number Of Lines In A File In Linux | Itsubuntu.com
[02:48]	TR News	Boost Your Websites Security with Nginx Security Headers https://idroot.us/nginx-security-headers/
[02:48]	TR Bot	 Boost Your Website's Security with Nginx Security Headers - idroot
[02:48]	TR News	How To Install Bitwarden on Rocky Linux 9 https://idroot.us/install-bitwarden-rocky-linux-9/
[02:48]	TR Bot	 How To Install Bitwarden on Rocky Linux 9 - idroot
[02:49]	TR News	Higher education bill would prohibit Ohio staff and employees from striking https://kentwired.com/95080/world-nation/higher-education-bill-would-prohibit-ohio-staff-and-employees-from-striking/
[02:49]	TR Bot	 Higher education bill would prohibit Ohio staff and employees from striking Kent Wired
[02:49]	TR News	 (NEW): cURL 8.x is out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/cURL_8_x_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/cURL_8_x_is_out.gmi 
[02:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines cURL 8.x is out
[02:49]	TR News	Thoughts on Editing Posts https://kevquirk.com/thoughts-on-editing-posts/
[02:49]	TR Bot	 Thoughts on Editing Posts | Kev Quirk
[02:49]	t0talist	linux-2.4 has a huge benefit; it's much less lines-of-code, and it's known supported with tcc-compiler; however there isn't an option for year2038 support (available filesystems mainly, and that's asking for alot of trouble)
[02:50]	TR News	Why You Should Opt Out of Sharing Data With Your Mobile Provider https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/03/why-you-should-opt-out-of-sharing-data-with-your-mobile-provider/
[02:50]	TR Bot	 Why You Should Opt Out of Sharing Data With Your Mobile Provider Krebs on Security
[02:50]	TR News	Late Night Linux Episode 221 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-221/
[02:50]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 221 Late Night Linux
[02:52]	TR News	Why do I need to secure my Linux hosts? https://linuxconcept.com/why-do-i-need-to-secure-my-linux-hosts/
[02:52]	TR Bot	 Why do I need to secure my Linux hosts?
[02:52]	TR News	Removing our Firewall Configuration in Linux https://linuxconcept.com/removing-our-firewall-configuration-in-linux/
[02:52]	TR Bot	 Removing our Firewall Configuration in Linux
[02:53]	TR News	Python String to Enum Conversion https://linuxhint.com/convert-python-string-enum/
[02:53]	TR Bot	 Python String to Enum Conversion
[02:53]	TR News	How to Read Pickle File Python? https://linuxhint.com/read-pickle-file-python/
[02:53]	TR Bot	 How to Read Pickle File Python?
[02:54]	TR News	High-Impact DoS, Arbitrary Code Execution, Spoofing Bugs Fixed in Thunderbird 102.9.0 https://linuxsecurity.com/features/thunderbird-102-9-0
[02:54]	TR Bot	 High-Impact DoS, Arbitrary Code Execution, Spoofing Bugs Fixed in T...
[02:55]	TR News	10 Top Open Source Privacy-First Web Analytics https://medevel.com/10-os-privacy-focused-analytics/
[02:55]	TR Bot	 10 Top Open Source Privacy-First Web Analytics
[02:56]	TR News	US approves merger creating first Canada-US-Mexico railroad https://mexiconewsdaily.com/business/us-approves-first-canada-us-mexico-railroad/
[02:56]	TR Bot	 US approves merger creating first Canada-US-Mexico railroad
[02:57]	TR News	Bloomberg: The consequences of yuans internationalization https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/03/20/bloomberg-the-consequences-of-yuans-internationalization/
[02:57]	TR Bot	 Bloomberg: The consequences of yuans internationalization - Modern Diplomacy
[02:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[02:59]	TR News	Cybercriminals capitalize on Silicon Valley Bank's demise https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2023/03/20/cybercriminals-capitalize-on-silicon-valley-banks-demise.html
[02:59]	TR Bot	 Cybercriminals capitalize on Silicon Valley Bank's demise | Netcraft News
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[03:01]	TR News	Ansible Roles Tutorial For Beginners https://ostechnix.com/ansible-roles/
[03:01]	TR Bot	Roles Tutorial For Beginners - OSTechNix
[03:01]	TR News	The end of PfP: Pain-free Passwords https://palant.info/2023/03/20/the-end-of-pfp-pain-free-passwords/
[03:01]	TR Bot	 The end of PfP: Pain-free Passwords | Almost Secure
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[03:03]	TR News	Simon Ser: Status update, March 2023 https://emersion.fr/blog/2023/status-update-51/
[03:03]	TR Bot	 Status update, March 2023 emersion
[03:03]	IPFS	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.      
[03:03]	TR News	Pluralistic: Podcasting "Gig Work Is the Opposite of Steampunk" (20 Mar 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/03/20/love-the-machine/
[03:03]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Podcasting Gig Work Is the Opposite of Steampunk (20 Mar 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[03:04]	TR News	Rakudo Weekly 2023.12 Priced/2 https://rakudoweekly.blog/2023/03/20/2023-12-priced-2/
[03:04]	TR Bot	 2023.12 Priced/2 Rakudo Weekly News
[03:04]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:06]	TR News	reason.com (Koch-funded) now shilling for insurrectionist Trump. Very bad. It's nothing reasonable about promoting crime.
[03:07]	TR News	From Team Blue and Green to Team Red https://rg3.name/202303202052.html
[03:07]	TR Bot	 Geek Blight - From Team Blue and Green to Team Red
[03:09]	TR News	CG developers: be nice, and credit your artists https://rubenerd.com/ai-developers-credit-your-sources/
[03:09]	TR Bot	AI developers: be nice, and credit your artists
[03:09]	TR News	Meta executive working in Greece was hacked by Predator spyware https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/meta-executive-working-greece-hacked-predator-spyware/
[03:09]	TR Bot	executive working in Greece was hacked by Predator spyware - SiliconANGLE
[03:09]	TR News	NBA notifies fans of data breach at third-party newsletter provider https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/nba-notifies-fans-data-breach-third-party-newsletter-provider/
[03:09]	TR Bot	notifies fans of data breach at third-party newsletter provider - SiliconANGLE
[03:11]	TR News	Clown computing implosion. AWS and Azure both have many layoffs. https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/amazon-lay-off-another-9000-workers-cost-cutting-effort-continues/
[03:11]	TR Bot	to lay off 9,000 more workers, including at AWS, as cost-cutting effort continues - SiliconANGLE
[03:11]	TR News	Oracle simplifies Kubernetes deployment and operations in its cloud https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/oracle-simplifies-kubernetes-deployment-operations-cloud/
[03:11]	TR Bot	simplifies Kubernetes deployment and operations in its cloud - SiliconANGLE
[03:11]	TR News	Asian attack group deploys new forms of malware to target companies https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/asian-attack-group-deploys-new-forms-malware-target-companies/
[03:11]	TR Bot	attack group deploys new forms of malware to target companies - SiliconANGLE
[03:12]	TR News	Connectivity has changed the needs of the embedded market https://staceyoniot.com/connectivity-has-changed-the-needs-of-the-embedded-market/
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Connectivity has changed the needs of the embedded market - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[03:14]	TR News	How to enable debug mode in Laravel for specific environments https://tecadmin.net/enable-debug-mode-in-laravel-for-specific-environments/
[03:14]	TR Bot	 How to enable debug mode in Laravel for specific environments TecAdmin
[03:14]	TR News	316: Running at SCALE 20x Plus Nord VPN Goes Open Source https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-316/
[03:14]	TR Bot	Running at SCALE 20x Plus Nord VPN Goes Open Source - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
[03:16]	TR News	TikTok bans: short-sighted solutions to the wrong problem https://techpolicy.press/tiktok-bans-short-sighted-solutions-to-the-wrong-problem/
[03:16]	TR Bot	 TikTok Bans: Short-Sighted Solutions to the Wrong Problem
[03:16]	TR News	Shaping the next 20 years of digital rights in Europe https://www.accessnow.org/shaping-the-next-20-years-of-digital-rights-in-europe/
[03:16]	TR Bot	 Shaping the next 20 years of digital rights in Europe - Access Now
[03:17]	DaemonFC	Asian attack group?
[03:18]	TR News	The Federal Reserves dilemma: Choosing between monetary policy and financial stability https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/the-federal-reserves-dilemma-choosing-between-monetary-policy-and-financial-stability/
[03:18]	TR Bot	 The Federal Reserve's dilemma: Choosing between monetary policy and financial stability - Atlantic Council
[03:18]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: MOST of this world is Asians
[03:18]	schestowitz[TR]	seems rather broad a term
[03:18]	TR News	Central bankers must keep financial stability in mind as they fight inflation https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/central-bankers-must-keep-financial-stability-in-mind-as-they-fight-inflation/
[03:18]	TR Bot	 Central bankers must keep financial stability in mind as they fight inflation - Atlantic Council
[03:18]	TR News	The US debt limit is a global outlier https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/the-us-debt-limit-is-a-global-outlier/
[03:18]	TR Bot	 The US debt limit is a global outlier - Atlantic Council
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:20]	TR News	Chinese-linked hackers deployed the most zero-day vulnerabilities in 2022, researchers say https://cyberscoop.com/mandiant-zero-day-vulnerabilities-china/
[03:20]	TR Bot	hackers deployed the most zero-day vulnerabilities in 2022, researchers say | CyberScoop
[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: beware the hey-jans
[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	and choina
[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	_esspecially_ choina
[03:21]	TR News	Episode 38 Production report 1 https://www.davidrevoy.com/article957/episode-38-production-report-1
[03:21]	TR Bot	 Episode 38 Production report 1 - David Revoy
[03:23]	TR News	"Slowing growth" and "corrections" at Amazon https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/amazon-music-layoffs-2023/
[03:23]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/amazon-music-layoffs-2023/ )
[03:23]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: layoffs are "corrections" now
[03:23]	schestowitz[TR]	it sounds a lot better
[03:23]	schestowitz[TR]	in this "slowing growth" economy
[03:24]	TR News	District Judge Dismisses Years-Old Copyright Lawsuit Over Nickelbacks Rockstar https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/nickelback-rockstar-lawsuit-dismissed/
[03:24]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/nickelback-rockstar-lawsuit-dismissed/ )
[03:25]	TR News	TikTok Ban Under Consideration at BBC After UK Government Ban https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/tiktok-ban-bbc-uk-2023/
[03:25]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/tiktok-ban-bbc-uk-2023/ )
[03:25]	TR News	The Weeknd Settles Call Out My Name Copyright Infringement Lawsuit After 18 Months https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/the-weeknd-call-out-my-name-suit-settlement/
[03:25]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/03/20/the-weeknd-call-out-my-name-suit-settlement/ )
[03:26]	TR News	From Phishing Kit To Telegram... or Not (Mon, Mar 20th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29650
[03:26]	TR Bot	 InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
[03:26]	TR News	French government survives no-confidence votes over pension reform https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230320-french-government-survives-no-confidence-votes-over-pension-reform
[03:26]	TR Bot	 French government survives no-confidence votes over pension reform
[03:27]	TR News	Protests erupt in France as govt adopts new pension law https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230320-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-french-government-faces-crunch-no-confidence-votes-over-pension-reform
[03:27]	TR Bot	 Protests erupt in France as govt adopts new pension law
[03:29]	TR News	Work till you die? The only reason for your existence is labour? https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230320-french-government-faces-make-or-break-vote-after-pension-reform-uproar
[03:29]	TR Bot	 French government faces make-or-break vote after pension reform uproar
[03:29]	TR News	UBS agrees to buy Credit Suisse for more than $3 billion to calm global markets https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230319-ubs-agrees-to-buy-credit-suisse-for-more-than-2bn-reports-financial-times
[03:29]	TR Bot	 UBS agrees to buy Credit Suisse for more than $3 billion to calm global markets
[03:30]	TR News	Top 10 Python Libraries for Cybersecurity https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/top-10-python-libraries-for-cybersecurity/
[03:30]	TR Bot	 Top 10 Python Libraries for Cybersecurity - GeeksforGeeks
[03:30]	TR News	How to create telnet client with asyncio in Python https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-create-telnet-client-with-asyncio-in-python/
[03:30]	TR Bot	 How to create telnet client with asyncio in Python - GeeksforGeeks
[03:31]	TR News	GIMP in GSoC2023 https://www.gimp.org/news/2023/03/20/gimp-in-gsoc-2023/
[03:31]	TR Bot	 GIMP in GSoC2023 - GIMP
[03:32]	TR News	"convicted under the colonial-era sedition law in connection with social media posts about the death of a marine officer." https://hongkongfp.com/2023/03/21/10-months-jail-for-ex-hong-kong-cop-over-seditious-online-posts-about-death-of-marine-officer/
[03:32]	TR Bot	 10 months jail for ex-Hong Kong cop over 'seditious' online posts about death of marine officer - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[03:33]	TR News	Stand News trial: Ex-chief editor reveals he considered moving data, operations away from Hong Kong https://hongkongfp.com/2023/03/20/stand-news-trial-ex-chief-editor-reveals-he-considered-moving-data-operations-away-from-hong-kong/
[03:33]	TR Bot	 Stand News trial: Ex-chief editor reveals he considered moving data, operations away from Hong Kong - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[03:33]	t0talist	allright, there is exactly one filesystem i know of, which may pass until year 2106, with linux-2.4/x86_64
[03:35]	TR News	Latitude Financial says personal data of 330,000 stolen in breach https://itwire.com/security/latitude-financial-says-personal-data-of-330,000-stolen-in-breach.html
[03:35]	TR Bot	- Latitude Financial says personal data of 330,000 stolen in breach
[03:36]	TR News	Putin signs law prohibiting false information about mercenaries in Russia https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/03/president-putin-signs-law-prohibiting-false-information-about-mercenaries-in-russia/
[03:36]	TR Bot	 Putin signs law prohibiting 'false information' about mercenaries in Russia - JURIST - News
[03:37]	t0talist	i will roll-back to linux-2.4, maybe back further; linux-2.2 only got sparc64 for that (no x86_64), another interesting intersection
[03:38]	TR News	JUVE Patent posts marketing SPAM disguided as ranking and such; it's paid by the firmS it 'recommends' and it also published false propaganda for them under the guise of "news" https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/juve-patents-ones-to-watch-france-2023/
[03:38]	TR Bot	 JUVE Patents Ones to Watch France 2023 - JUVE Patent
[03:38]	t0talist	gladly, i already hacked my high-speed crambler against the legacy loopdev api, so that'll be easy, to backport, with both kernel and userspace utilities
[03:40]	TR News	How to Create a New Sudo User on Linux Mint 21 or 20 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-create-a-new-sudo-user-on-linux-mint/
[03:40]	TR Bot	to Create a New Sudo User on Linux Mint 21 or 20 - LinuxCapable
[03:40]	TR News	Fail2Ban Custom Jails: 20 Example Configurations https://www.linuxcapable.com/fail2ban-custom-jails-20-example-configurations/
[03:40]	TR Bot	Custom Jails: 20 Example Configurations - LinuxCapable
[03:40]	TR News	Machine Learning in Linux: Stable Diffusion web UI https://www.linuxlinks.com/machine-learning-linux-stable-diffusion-web-ui/
[03:40]	TR Bot	Learning in Linux: Stable Diffusion web UI - LinuxLinks
[03:41]	TR News	DCA 04 Running Containers https://www.linux.org/threads/dca-%E2%80%93-04-%E2%80%93-running-containers.43549/
[03:41]	TR Bot	04 Running Containers | Linux.org
[03:41]	t0talist	and it's too interesting, which filesystem that is, to survive year2038 on linux-2.4/64bit
[03:44]	TR News	The mobster and liar who destabilises the world... fifth marriage... at age 92. Disgusting. https://michaelwest.com.au/media-mogul-murdoch-engaged-to-police-chaplain-smith/
[03:44]	TR Bot	 Media mogul Murdoch engaged to police chaplain Smith - Michael West
[03:45]	TR News	Layoffs are just "corrections" now... and clown computing AWS is having issues... even "corrections" https://michaelwest.com.au/amazon-says-it-will-lay-off-another-9000-employees/
[03:45]	TR Bot	 Amazon says it will lay off another 9000 employees - Michael West
[03:46]	TR News	Chatkontrolle https://www.patrick-breyer.de/eu-parlamentsausschuss-mehrheit-will-chatkontrolle/
[03:46]	TR Bot	 EU-Parlamentsausschuss: Mehrheit will Chatkontrolle Patrick Breyer
[03:46]	TR News	Build a golden image for your RHEL homelab with Image Builder https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-golden-homelab-rhel
[03:46]	TR Bot	 Build a golden image for your RHEL homelab with Image Builder | Enable Sysadmin
[03:47]	t0talist	and there's only one other filesystem inside linux-2.4, which already used some time64 type
[03:48]	t0talist	with time32 unsigned, that's year 2106... and another filesystem, again some entity known for proprietary malice
[03:49]	TR News	Laos imposes price controls to curb inflation, but merchants say theyre losing money https://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/price-controls-inflation-03202023172301.html
[03:49]	TR Bot	 Laos imposes price controls to curb inflation, but merchants say theyre losing money Radio Free Asia
[03:50]	TR News	For female journalists, covering China comes at a cost https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/harassment-03202023133743.html
[03:50]	TR Bot	 For female journalists, covering China comes at a cost Radio Free Asia
[03:51]	TR News	Russia Adds Institute For Statecraft To 'Undesirable Organizations' List https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-institute-statecraft-undesirable-organizations/32326596.html
[03:51]	TR Bot	 Russia Adds Institute For Statecraft To 'Undesirable Organizations' List
[03:52]	TR News	"It has been a bad couple of weeks for banks in the U.S. and Europe." https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/head-of-the-eurogroup-paschal-donohoe-we-have-to-recognize-how-quickly-things-can-change-a-fa42b964-6aca-46d8-a0d2-f1a3d654afa8
[03:52]	TR Bot	 Head of the Eurogroup Paschal Donohoe: "We Have to Recognize How Quickly Things Can Change" - DER SPIEGEL
[03:52]	TR News	SUSE pushing proprietary SAP again... https://www.suse.com/c/secure-sap-side-by-side-extensibility-with-suse-rancher-prime-and-neuvector/
[03:52]	TR Bot	SAP Side-by-Side Extensibility with SUSE, Rancher Prime and NeuVector | SUSE Communities
[03:53]	TR News	Internet promoting self-harm https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/20/1070037/weight-loss-injections-societal-impact-ozempic/
[03:53]	TR Bot	 Weight-loss injections have taken over the internet. But what does this mean for people IRL? | MIT Technology Review
[03:55]	TR News	Microsoft's longtime propagandist and media mole Simon Bisson is trying to shill Microsoft control over WordPress (in a site controlled by Microsoft as advertiser) https://www.techrepublic.com/article/running-wordpress-microsoft-azure/
[03:55]	TR Bot	 Running WordPress on Microsoft Azure
[03:55]	TR News	The 1.5TB microSD card is here but your wallet cant handle it https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/03/1-5tb-microsd-card-is-here-but-your-wallet-cant-handle/
[03:55]	TR Bot	 The 1.5TB microSD card is here but your wallet can't handle it - Techzim
[03:56]	TR News	Crisis as a Self-fulfilling Prophecy Hangs Over European Banks https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Crisis-as-a-Self-fulfilling-Prophecy-Hangs-Over-European-Banks-20230320-0011.html
[03:56]	TR Bot	 Crisis as a Self-fulfilling Prophecy Hangs Over European Banks | News | teleSUR English
[03:56]		*geert (~geert@fsj3z8mrr4r3u.irc) has joined #techrights
[03:58]	TR News	"The Danish government has implemented an emergency plan to improve the country's health system, which is currently under strain." https://www.thelocal.dk/20230320/what-exactly-is-wrong-with-the-danish-health-system
[03:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.dk/20230320/what-exactly-is-wrong-with-the-danish-health-system )
[03:59]	TR News	Home sales in Denmark sink to lowest level since 2013 https://www.thelocal.dk/20230320/home-sales-in-denmark-sink-to-lowest-level-since-2013
[03:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.dk/20230320/home-sales-in-denmark-sink-to-lowest-level-since-2013 )
[03:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[04:00]	TR News	Politics in Sweden: What is being done to cut the cost of living? https://www.thelocal.se/20230320/politics-in-sweden-what-is-being-done-to-cut-the-cost-of-living
[04:00]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelocal.se/20230320/politics-in-sweden-what-is-being-done-to-cut-the-cost-of-living )
[04:01]	TR News	In the-scientist.com this week 100% PERCENT of the "stories" are in fact "sponsored" (SPAM).
[04:02]	TR News	Vista 11 getting worse over time https://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-11-update-slows-ssd-storage
[04:02]	TR Bot	 Latest Windows 11 Update May Slow SSD Performance | Tom's Hardware
[04:04]	TR News	Software Patents: $2,000 for Adnexus online ads patent prior art https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/3/20/2000-for-adnexus-online-ads-patent-prior-art
[04:04]	TR Bot	 $2,000 for Adnexus online ads patent prior art Unified Patents
[04:04]	TR News	Acacia entity Atlas Global Technologies Wi-Fi patent reexam granted https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/3/20/acacia-entity-atlas-global-technologies-wi-fi-patent-reexam-granted
[04:04]	TR Bot	 Acacia entity Atlas Global Technologies Wi-Fi patent reexam granted Unified Patents
[04:05]	TR News	ChatGPT Users Report Being Able to See Random People's Chat Histories https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5d9zd5/chatgpt-users-report-being-able-to-see-random-peoples-chat-histories
[04:05]	TR Bot	 ChatGPT Users Report Being Able to See Random People's Chat Histories
[04:06]	TR News	Private Banks Are In Crisis. What If They Were Public Banks? https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3akzbb/private-banks-are-in-crisis-what-if-they-were-public-banks
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Private Banks Are In Crisis. What If They Were Public Banks?
[04:06]	TR News	April price rises: how to keep costs down as bills go up https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/april-price-rises-how-to-keep-costs-down-as-bills-go-up-a23rg0n7qIiB
[04:06]	TR Bot	 April price rises: how to keep costs down as bills go up - Which? News
[04:07]	TR News	Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings): Three Weeks to Merely Start Investigating Pension Fraud (and Only After Repeated Reminders From the Frauds Victims) http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/kafka-life/
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings): Three Weeks to Merely Start Investigating Pension Fraud (and Only After Repeated Reminders From the Frauds Victims) | Techrights
[04:07]	TR News	Standard Life Paper Mills in Edinburgh http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/the-paper-mills-in-edinburgh/
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Standard Life Paper Mills in Edinburgh | Techrights
[04:07]	TR News	Pension Fraud Investigation Not a High Priority in Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) http://techrights.org/2023/03/20/standard-life-asleep/
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Pension Fraud Investigation Not a High Priority in Standard Life (Phoenix Group Holdings) | Techrights
[04:08]	t0talist	anyway, the problem with year2038 is, it's only solved for such type of systems, which are broken for other reasons
[04:08]	TR News	Techrights Bulletin for Monday, March 20, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives
[04:08]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:08]	TR News	Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt
[04:08]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:08]	t0talist	for example: linux-5.10 lines of code, the size of this thing, it's too much, same with the required compilers for this
[04:08]	TR News	TTAB Orders Cancellation of Safety Helmet Registrations Due to Lack of Acquired Distinctiveness http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/03/ttab-orders-cancellation-of-safety.html
[04:08]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: TTAB Orders Cancellation of Safety Helmet Registrations Due to Lack of Acquired Distinctiveness
[04:09]	t0talist	even when, linux-5.10 (or any similar system, it's NOT specific to linux, it's just nicely documented with linux) survived year2038, it's not worth it, imo
[04:09]	TR News	How to Install Latest Battle for Wesnoth 1.16.x via PPA in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/03/install-battle-wesnoth-116-ppa/
[04:09]	TR Bot	 How to Install Latest Battle for Wesnoth 1.16.x via PPA in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[04:09]	TR News	Top Open Source Companies 2023 https://www.datamation.com/open-source/35-top-open-source-companies/
[04:09]	TR Bot	Open Source Companies 2023 | Datamation
[04:09]	t0talist	and a linux-2.4 which is much less lines of code, and sand compilers can be used, it's not year2038-ready
[04:10]	TR News	Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 779 https://ubuntu-news.org/2023/03/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-779/
[04:10]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 779
[04:10]	t0talist	hence, the year2038 is a dilemma, and a giant time-bomb
[04:10]	t0talist	year2000, was nothing in comparison
[04:11]	t0talist	furthermore, my opinion, year2038 had to be coped with 20years earlier already, at the time when linux-2.4 was latest greatest
[04:11]	TR News	Just dump clown computing altogether. Microsoft Azure and Amazon AWS have layoffs. That says something. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/3/3-ways-save-cloud-costs-2023
[04:11]	TR Bot	 3 ways to save on cloud costs in 2023 | The Enterprisers Project
[04:12]	TR News	The criminals who run the EPO are meeting with "Trade Organization"; EPO exists to besiege the public, break the law, pretend to do something "innovation" related. http://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2023/20230320.html
[04:12]	TR Bot	 EPO - EPO-JETRO annual meeting
[04:12]	t0talist	NetBSD and OpenBSD were a little faster with this, nonetheless; POSIX 32bit was that common, it had to be addressed _before_ millions of devices were deployed
[04:13]	t0talist	and, Microsoft and IBM, did know (checking their filesystems inside linux-2.4 kernel), they did know...
[04:13]	t0talist	sparc64, at that time, was a premium... linux-2.2; i tell you this... they knew it
[04:14]	t0talist	i will fork linux, at version kernel-2.4, if i can
[04:14]	TR News	Maths skills of ninth-graders have eroded, in part due to insufficient vocabulary https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23193-maths-skills-of-ninth-graders-have-eroded-in-part-due-to-insufficient-vocabulary.html
[04:14]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23193-maths-skills-of-ninth-graders-have-eroded-in-part-due-to-insufficient-vocabulary.html )
[04:14]	t0talist	which too was the time, when microsoft had begun fisting ACPI into this
[04:14]	t0talist	it's a miracle, linux survived the pain of this
[04:15]	TR News	The SiliconValley Bank Catastrophe https://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/blitts-kvetchbook/the-silicon-valley-bank-catastrophe
[04:15]	TR Bot	 The SiliconValley Bank Catastrophe | The New Yorker
[04:16]	TR News	Silicon Valley Bank and the Dangers of Magical Thinking https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/silicon-valley-bank-and-the-dangers-of-magical-thinking
[04:16]	TR Bot	 Silicon Valley Bank and the Dangers of Magical Thinking | The New Yorker
[04:17]	TR News	Whats wrong with gang surveillance in the UK? https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/whats-wrong-with-gang-surveillance-in-the-uk/
[04:17]	TR Bot	 Whats wrong with gang surveillance in the UK? | Open Rights Group
[04:18]	t0talist	*sane compilers, linux-2.4 seems the last version; which doesn't lock into GNU/gcc too heavy
[04:18]	TR News	Mir 2.13 release, but Canonical gave it to Microsoft and uses PROPRIETARY crap for its development. Mir doesn't respect freedom
[04:19]	t0talist	and all this, is something, stallman and torvalds, seem not too excited, to talk about
[04:19]	TR News	The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache CloudStack v4.18.
[04:19]	TR News	Apache CloudStack 4.18.0.0 LTS Release https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/apache-cloudstack-4-18-0 "The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache CloudStack v4.18."
[04:19]	TR Bot	 The Apache CloudStack Blog: Apache CloudStack 4.18.0.0 LTS Release
[04:19]	t0talist	i consider them, too smart, for not having known, which bombs were planted into "free software"
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[04:20]	t0talist	it's evil
[04:21]	t0talist	anyway
[04:21]	t0talist	i too think, that's why railway operators, are in a hurry, to phase-out legacy systems (related to x.25, 1980s)
[04:21]	TR News	dragonflydb 1.0 released, but the site links to proprietary Microsoft prison to announce this news. Appalling. https://dragonflydb.io/blog
[04:21]	TR Bot	 Dragonfly - Blog
[04:22]	t0talist	if there's a 32bit posix involved anywhere,... even x86_64 bit kernels, do support 32bit binaries... just saying... 
[04:22]	TR News	dragonflydb also uses Discord (proprietary) for developments. dragonflydb does not value freedom.
[04:22]	t0talist	and cast to uint32, and trains crash january 1901 some time...
[04:23]	t0talist	however; here is the next fun story... even when modern systems are year2038 ready, those are plagued by that many problems
[04:23]	TR News	US report lists 'significant human rights' abuses in India... look at the mirror, US! https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/us-report-lists-significant-human-rights-abuses-in-india
[04:23]	TR Bot	 US report lists 'significant human rights' abuses in India | The Straits Times
[04:23]	t0talist	that's one explanation why there was several total outages in railway, when they migrated to ETCS and similar
[04:23]	TR News	IMF approves nearly US$3 billion bailout for Sri Lanka https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/imf-says-us3-billion-loan-for-sri-lanka-will-catalyse-lending-from-others
[04:23]	TR Bot	 IMF approves nearly $4 billion bailout for Sri Lanka | The Straits Times
[04:24]	t0talist	it's not an instant collapse, no a solar eclipse doomsday event
[04:24]	t0talist	problems are just piling up;
[04:25]	TR News	Monster/Mobster Murdoch... women cannot stand him, they just take his (hatred-soaked) money and leave https://www.theage.com.au/national/billionaire-media-mogul-rupert-murdoch-announces-his-fifth-engagement-at-92-20230321-p5ctzc.html
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[04:25]	TR Bot	 Credit Suisse fallout: CoCo bondholders go loco
[04:26]	TR News	Queensland government seriously considering how to introduce rental caps https://www.theage.com.au/national/queensland-government-seriously-considering-how-to-introduce-rental-caps-20230321-p5ctu2.html
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[04:27]	TR News	Fedora 38 beta has arrived and it heralds a spectacular upcoming release https://www.zdnet.com/article/fedora-38-beta-has-arrived-and-it-heralds-a-spectacular-upcoming-release/
[04:27]	TR Bot	38 beta has arrived and it heralds a spectacular upcoming release | ZDNET
[04:28]	TR News	Benefit of whales https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23641422/whales-ship-strikes-climate-change-douglas-mccauley-benioff-laboratory
[04:28]	TR Bot	noise, and climate change kill whales. Heres how to fix that. - Vox
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[04:32]	TR News	Ubuntu 23.04: The Best New Features https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/03/ubuntu-23-04-features
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[04:34]	TR News	Docker Shocker | LINUX Unplugged 502 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-unplugged/502/
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[04:36]	TR News	See the comments here. The EPO is a catastrophe when it comes to law. It's attacking the law itself. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/03/epo-tries-to-have-its-cake-and-eat-it.html?showComment=1679326841327#c8262238174738411795
[04:36]	TR Bot	 EPO tries to have its cake and eat it on claim interpretation (T 0169/20) - The IPKat
[04:37]	t0talist	DEC VAX, from 1980s, a 32bit system, already could process 128bit, general purpose
[04:37]	t0talist	i mean, with critical code paths, it should have been possible, to avoid problems such as year 2038
[04:37]	TR News	How to Work with Hazelcast Distributed Maps in Java http://knowledgebasement.com/how-to-work-with-hazelcast-distributed-maps-in-java/
[04:37]	TR Bot	 How to Work with Hazelcast Distributed Maps in Java |
[04:38]	t0talist	to make time_t, 64bit; they should have done it, 20years earlier, than what linux-5.10 introduced a few month ago
[04:38]	t0talist	they didn't; *BSD didn't, Linux didn't...
[04:39]	t0talist	IBM HPFS, that one is using uint32 for time-stamps, interesting...; and NTFFS inside linux-2.4 utilizes some time64 type even...
[04:40]	t0talist	they knew it
[04:41]	t0talist	and it may have been a little easier, 20 years ago, to hack y2038 into linux kernel, than it was 20years later
[04:42]	t0talist	instead, they introduced ext4 filesystem, with linux-2.6... knowing already, they had to phase out ext2
[04:42]	t0talist	and aggressively pushed towards 64bit
[04:42]	TR News	Fake Patents Where 'Invention' Claims are Invalid https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/03/only-claims-invalid.html
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Only Some of the Claims are Invalid | Patently-O
[04:43]	t0talist	however, with linux-2.6, they locked out tcc-compiler ... why?
[04:43]	TR News	Jussi Pakkanen: The joy of font debugging https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2023/03/the-joy-of-font-debugging.html
[04:43]	TR Bot	 Nibble Stew: The joy of font debugging
[04:44]	t0talist	i can't grasp, why there wasn't a mob raging over this..., at the time of linux-2.6
[04:44]	t0talist	it's a nasty little detail, why linux-2.6 cannot be compiled with tcc
[04:44]	TR News	Kampen for Internet Archive str no! https://bibliotekettarsaka.com/2023/03/20/kampen-for-internet-archive-star-no/
[04:44]	TR Bot	 Kampen for Internet Archive str no! | Biblioteket tar saka #librarycase
[04:45]	TR News	Improving the inference of sibling Autonomous Systems https://blog.apnic.net/2023/03/21/improving-the-inference-of-sibling-autonomous-systems/
[04:45]	TR Bot	 Improving the inference of sibling Autonomous Systems | APNIC Blog
[04:45]	immibis	t0talist: fork it and make it compile with tcc
[04:45]	t0talist	"free software", didn't this imply freedom of CHOICE?
[04:45]	TR News	Routing protocol implementation evaluation in fat-trees https://blog.apnic.net/2023/03/20/routing-protocol-implementation-evaluation-in-fat-trees/
[04:45]	immibis	nobody has any obligations towards you
[04:45]	immibis	you have the choice to make it compile with tcc
[04:45]	TR Bot	 Routing protocol implementation evaluation in fat-trees | APNIC Blog
[04:45]	t0talist	immibis: i have no obligation towards anyone
[04:46]	immibis	you do not have a right to demand free labour from other people
[04:46]	t0talist	immibis: i don't
[04:46]	immibis	but here you are demanding it
[04:46]	t0talist	no
[04:46]	t0talist	immibis: i am the one, who didn't receive his salary, for almost 20 years!
[04:46]	t0talist	while others, drowned in cash, delivering the junk recent compilers and kernels are
[04:47]	TR News	The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 779 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/03/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-779/
[04:47]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 779
[04:47]	t0talist	immibis: why are you twisting this 180degrees into the opposite of what the facts are?
[04:47]	t0talist	and it's not the first time you try this
[04:47]	immibis	you are projecting
[04:48]	immibis	nobody owes you labour. If you want it done, then do it.
[04:48]	immibis	if you want the kernel to be compileable with tcc then make it compileable with tcc
[04:48]	t0talist	immibis: I know what i am doing
[04:48]	immibis	I know what you are doing, too: demanding free labour
[04:48]	TR News	FSF Blogs: From Freedom Trail to free boot and free farms: Charting the course at LibrePlanet day two http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/from-freedom-trail-to-free-boot-and-free-farms-charting-the-course-at-libreplanet-day-2
[04:48]	TR Bot	 From Freedom Trail to free boot and free farms: Charting the course at LibrePlanet day two Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[04:48]	t0talist	immibis: AGAIN, i am the one who had not received his salary for almost 20 years
[04:48]	t0talist	while those, who delivered the junk that modern kernels and compilers are, drowned in cash
[04:49]	t0talist	immibis: that's not "free"
[04:49]	t0talist	on whose payroll, those were
[04:49]	immibis	if you want it, you pay for it or do it yourself
[04:49]	t0talist	and, the malicious activity involved, that almost sufficed for compensation of damages, if there was any somewhere
[04:50]	TR News	 (NEW): NanoPi R6C taps Rockchip RK3588S SoC http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/NanoPi_R6C_taps_Rockchip_RK3588S_SoC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/NanoPi_R6C_taps_Rockchip_RK3588S_SoC.gmi 
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[04:50]	t0talist	immibis: i tell you this, i won't publish
[04:50]	Sompi	the development of modern Linux is largely influenced by the big tech corporations that use Linux to run their infrastructure
[04:50]	t0talist	junkyard
[04:51]	t0talist	immibis: those who were responsible, already drowned in cash, that much, i owe them NOTHING
[04:51]	t0talist	immibis: I am the one, who had not received his salary, for almost 20 years
[04:51]	t0talist	so, in a way, you deserve no better than what "free software" is nowadays
[04:52]	t0talist	a giant junkyard, malice, cancer
[04:52]	t0talist	needless to say, microsoft IBM Wintel Gapple, i see them burning in hell, for their evilness
[04:52]	t0talist	they are evil
[04:53]	immibis	sounds like a you problem
[04:53]	immibis	if you want linux to compile with tcc, make it compileable with tcc
[04:53]	mjg59_	I thought communists didn't believe in hell
[04:53]	t0talist	i am not a communist
[04:54]	mjg59_	Noted
[04:56]	geert	some these corrupt goons want us fighting each other
[04:56]	geert	instead of tryna combine perspective to stronger corruption addressing
[04:56]	geert	t0talist got some serious points
[04:58]	immibis	t0talist is a capitalist right?
[04:58]	immibis	so if you want something done you pay for it or do it yourself
[04:59]	t0talist	immibis: repeating lies, doesn't change what the facts are
[04:59]	t0talist	those who delivered the malware, were drowning in cash, for what they did
[04:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[05:00]	geert	its a fact that malicious organization of money doesnt reward the best quality most
[05:00]	geert	meaning we do not suffer any capitalism
[05:00]	geert	its quite frustrating often times to those who strive serious quality
[05:01]	geert	budgetary limitations because non or less conformist more quality based so called ideology
[05:02]	t0talist	reminder, tcc-compiler (a sanity-check), was supported with linux-2.4; GNU/linux however, locked-out that one
[05:03]	t0talist	and yes, i did consider, implementation some feature, but i think it's mis-guided, for technical reasons too
[05:03]	t0talist	*implementing
[05:04]	t0talist	and i am not insisting on anyone doing any work; i am thinking, if i will myself, do it, or terminate entirely
[05:05]	immibis	t0talist: are you a capitalist?
[05:05]	immibis	as in a believer of capitalism?
[05:05]	t0talist	immibis: capitalism isn't religious; it's a fact, without private property, there isn't any capitalism
[05:06]	immibis	do you think there should be capitalism?
[05:06]	t0talist	and i haven't none, private property, that was expopriated twice already, with currency reforms and land-reforms in east-germany
[05:06]	t0talist	a special type of capitalism, without private property, and work isn't paid for either... 
[05:06]	t0talist	whatever this is, i don't care
[05:08]	immibis	do you think there should be capitalism?
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[05:09]	t0talist	immibis: i think expropriation of privaty property, as they did it in east-germany, was a most severe violation of national and international law
[05:09]	t0talist	and they did it several times there
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[05:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[05:10]	t0talist	and that's unrelated to questions of "free software"; what the political circuumstances of capitalism and communism were
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	it is partly related
[05:10]	immibis	do you think there should be capitalism?
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	free software is primarily the "ownership" licence
[05:11]	immibis	free software is communist
[05:11]	immibis	literally
[05:11]	t0talist	sabotage against critical infrastructure, fraud, industrial espionage etc. this involves other legal questions
[05:12]	immibis	from each according to his ability, to each according to his need, and all that. It appears t0talist has no ability since he keeps complaining.
[05:12]	t0talist	immibis: i got a commit-log here, without any complaint, for many years
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR]	immibis:  you conflate distribution with politics
[05:13]	t0talist	and insults
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	capitalist markets aexist around free software
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	support, integration, maintainance, monitoring etc.
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	just because you get some code without necessarily paying does not mean you will never pay for anything
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's not free to acquire because "cost-saving"
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	it's about freedom
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	letting users control systems
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	the systems those users bought and use
[05:15]	t0talist	that's the theory, in practice, it's a facade, a camouflage
[05:15]	t0talist	marketing
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	what is?
[05:16]	t0talist	"free software"
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	you never hacked on some free code?
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	to make it work bettttter for you?
[05:16]	t0talist	GNU is impossible to repair
[05:16]	t0talist	same with linux-kernel
[05:17]	t0talist	that's why i consider roll-back
[05:17]	t0talist	to something, which could be maintainable
[05:17]	t0talist	however, at lower-levels, assembler is clusterfucked too
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	like..?
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	rolll back to what?
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	old gnu?
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	busybox?
[05:17]	t0talist	certainly not
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	so what would it be?
[05:19]	t0talist	if you're interested in free software? with free as in free as in free?
[05:19]	t0talist	there is many projects, and it's better to refrain from GNU
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[05:20]	t0talist	TempleOS is one of them, Gigatron TTL
[05:20]	t0talist	i am not concerned about GPL, already said this, it's the quality issues i see with GNU involved
[05:21]	t0talist	NetBSD, hacked year2038, 2012 already iirc; almost 10 years earlier than linux-5.10, there's areason for this
[05:21]	t0talist	and there's too a reason, why NetBSD was too late, another almost 10 years
[05:22]	t0talist	besides, you're asking a little too much, from those whom you recommend GNU/linux to
[05:23]	t0talist	are you serious, if you had kids, you wanted to molest them with GNU/Linux, to benefit IBM Wintel Gapple shareholder value?
[05:25]	t0talist	i mean, Oasis Linux, it's not bad, and they are honest even, with the problems they have, compiler support of cproc/qbe
[05:26]	t0talist	and it's rare, "free software" hackers are honest; that's probably why, you had not heard for particular projects
[05:26]	t0talist	*of
[05:26]	t0talist	because, you're all jedi-mind tricked, by the corporate marketing, that "free software" branding is
[05:27]	t0talist	just because there's a BSD or GPL license stamped onto, doesn't make it "free"
[05:27]	t0talist	a kernel/compiler with dozens of millions of LoC, sitting atop proprietary malicious vendor extensions, that's not free-software
[05:28]	t0talist	even when, there's no binary firmware involved
[05:30]	geert	some would say 'money talks'
[05:30]	geert	hardware, paid by money
[05:30]	geert	food, paid by money
[05:30]	geert	etc etc.
[05:30]	geert	so organization of money does get quite the effects
[05:30]	geert	we see the transparency potential of digital technology kind of wholly compromised
[05:31]	geert	instead of sharing only stock numbers or so, people wana 'limit transparency' by closing out others
[05:31]	geert	email boxes with passwords and what not supposed 'security'
[05:31]	geert	just very few people can keep a more purist view throughout those influences
[05:32]	geert	its you too in some way t0talist, getting deal this
[05:32]	geert	like e.g. you talking about 20 yrs not getting paid while seeing people who run more according corrupt lines so called 'drown in money'
[05:32]	geert	so in another way than many others, moneys still get influence with you too
[05:33]	geert	we got serious issues not even politically as schesto talks it
[05:33]	geert	its not real politics, even, just like its not even real capitalism we suffering
[05:33]	geert	it got hijacked
[05:33]	geert	political get paid by moneys too
[05:33]	geert	some so called international/global leaders try control all globe via 'definition of moneys' so to speak
[05:34]	geert	monetary
[05:34]	t0talist	the good thing about it; this whole research had opened my eyes; to avoid even more time wasted with this
[05:35]	geert	please dont let the moneys stop you sharing some serious, because many those that drown by moneys paid for conformism to corruption, dont care jack shit
[05:35]	t0talist	i only advice some caution, like so: gnu/linux from year 2003, that's not the same as it is nowadays 20 years later
[05:35]	geert	but many others might get influenced in better and more informed direction if you dont stop sharing some
[05:36]	t0talist	same license, same branding, same people, completely different thing sold than what it was 20 years ago
[05:36]	geert	its sad if people dont really want compensate accordingly, specifically those that do get the means
[05:36]	geert	they pretty much rather stimulate jeopardy than improve.
[05:36]	geert	thats quite the liability in history eyes so to speak
[05:37]	geert	whats not influenced.. its so many things influenced. 
[05:37]	geert	influenced more in direction of jeopardy; via one subjectivity above one another
[05:37]	geert	influenced more in direction of improve; away from any subjectivity in direction of more of objectivity.
[05:38]	geert	whats the other give into, doesnt enforce you to jeopardy. 
[05:38]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/21/europe/crimea-russian-missiles-destroyed-ukraine-intl-hnk/index.html
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Dzhankoi, Crimea: Russian 'Kalibr' missiles destroyed in strike, Ukraine Defense Ministry says | CNN
[05:38]	geert	its sad to many them they think its easier and more profitable in direction of jeopardy
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[05:39]	schestowitz[TR]	yo dawg, me missiled yo missiles
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[05:41]	t0talist	moving development onto a development branch that is outdated for almost 10 years, that's not an easy decision made
[05:41]	t0talist	more than 10 years
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[05:42]	t0talist	and i'll have to backport drivers, once in a while, for usb-ethernet dongles and similar stuff
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[05:42]	t0talist	that's alot of work
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[05:42]	t0talist	which to requires careful thinking, for example, which filesystem to choose
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[05:42]	t0talist	because otherwise i had to backport nilfs2 filesystem, which i may want to do, but again, that's too alot of work
[05:43]	t0talist	with linux-2.4, musl-libc may have to be abandoned
[05:43]	t0talist	another ouch
[05:43]	t0talist	re-integration of uclibc-ng for example, that's too alot of work, and i digged into the internals of that one already
[05:44]	t0talist	i think, some locale/unicode related stuff, was weird, a giant #ifdef cascade, just for this
[05:44]	t0talist	i mean, i would be willing to abandon unicode-support entirely, and stick to ASCII
[05:44]	geert	html 4 man, html 4
[05:44]	t0talist	but then, at some point... i could move straigt to TempleOS instead
[05:44]	t0talist	straight
[05:45]	t0talist	or Gigatron TTL
[05:45]	t0talist	that's something else, i am thinking about
[05:45]	geert	what would you think about me saying this guy got killed from templeos
[05:45]	geert	wandering around..
[05:45]	geert	i think he maybe got killed
[05:45]	t0talist	Terry? that's sad. i followed that drama.
[05:45]	t0talist	and i still think, TempleOS is one of the most underrated developments ever
[05:46]	geert	man i think society in many places so much wrecked that much so called 'psychiatric' just serve goal to hide heinous attacks as if the victim just sick instead of attacked
[05:46]	t0talist	his terminal/shell, got vector-graphics support included, animated even... brilliant
[05:47]	t0talist	in comparison, what happened to ReGIS and sixels, among the free-software crowd?
[05:47]	t0talist	they couldn't at least grasp the relevance of this, for scientific work
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[05:47]	geert	its not the largest issue
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[05:48]	t0talist	terry too puked over the mmx/sse junk; which was why intel EGCS development branch, was designated the main GCC branch at the time
[05:48]	t0talist	which was a mistake
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[05:48]	geert	its worse to denote what one doesnt understand than just not understand it
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[05:48]	t0talist	FSF shouldn't have allowed this to happen
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[05:49]	geert	many things are tried to stretch princips up to easy/lazy demand, try see if faster still goes
[05:50]	t0talist	geert: ?
[05:50]	geert	i think that kind of happened there with a little bit bodged abuse of that way of going about in order to serve 'security'
[05:50]	geert	yea people think they can dev faster towards progress if they let go of princips
[05:50]	geert	i think that kind of happened basically enabling malicious utilization by a small few who dont care any dev but call shit security
[05:51]	t0talist	i think, software was in better shape 20 years ago, simply because, there was less of it to maintain
[05:51]	t0talist	much less lines of code
[05:51]	geert	yea lots piling is considered easier than rewriting to more efficient utilization
[05:51]	geert	that kind of rewriting really demands some thinking
[05:51]	t0talist	german wikipedia, notes detailed statistics for linux kernel... it's just insane, what they did
[05:52]	geert	'moar storage room', 'moar memory', 'moar bogomips', man we got room to dev on and pile instead of rewrite and max efficient
[05:52]	geert	security biz got kind of 'income guarantee' this way too
[05:52]	t0talist	"security"
[05:53]	t0talist	well, the W^X patch i picked up for maintenance, with linux-5.10 ... that's a story of it's own again
[05:53]	t0talist	what this is, security
[05:53]	t0talist	and, i'll _never_ accept UEFI, i won't
[05:54]	geert	we got a severely compromised situation
[05:54]	geert	malicious money organization is not just affecting it development and developmers maliciously, stimulating in rather jeopardy than improve direction
[05:54]	geert	its also happening at faculties, many throughout the globe
[05:55]	t0talist	yes, and technically, it's neither possible to move forward, nor possible to roll-back; for technical reasons
[05:55]	geert	some are deliberately trying to keep students from seriously getting to know about subjects they consider probable threatening to state security
[05:55]	t0talist	"the state"
[05:55]	geert	information war simply means intelligence tryna take grass roots developments from whatever faculty if they think .mil potence.
[05:56]	geert	that state means simply the result of that 'hijacked politics'
[05:56]	t0talist	which one? in "germany"; the governmen here, itself, is an enemy to the state, constitutional enemies, and criminals
[05:56]	geert	money misorganization simply pays any state design, doesnt even matter if it called democracy or communism
[05:57]	geert	this money misorganization not paying best quality most, hence not capitalism, will not lead to best entrepeneurs getting most moneys
[05:57]	geert	so in short 'top dog position' moving away /stimulated away from 'top of bill mentality' without group
[05:57]	t0talist	the incentive structure is misguided too, to serve egomaniacs
[05:57]	geert	this top dog position tried hijack collective management, doesnt even matter in what systemic approach such as e.g. democratic
[05:58]	t0talist	nowadays, removing lines-of-code, had to pay-off
[05:58]	geert	any top dog position simply got more influence/aggressive lobby than any workers
[05:58]	t0talist	a move to linux-2.4/tcc; this alone, wipes almost 100million of it
[05:58]	geert	if its not top of bill mentality, they more willing hijack collective management because egoistic pushing one subjective above another
[05:58]	geert	politics were never able to withstand the pressure
[05:58]	geert	years ago already
[05:59]	geert	its just past years its becoming more obvious, effects are getting so hazardous that hiding because jeopardizing to their agenda
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[05:59]	geert	means either try hide where workers cant counter anyway
[05:59]	geert	or stop hiding and 'compete on'
[05:59]	geert	as it seem to me
[05:59]	geert	the latter is picked, kind of 
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[06:00]	geert	who cares those fucking workers
[06:00]	geert	they cant do jack shit
[06:00]	geert	they dont even feel like they need 10%of the workers anyway with current tech perspective
[06:01]	geert	real tight code demands serious thinking man
[06:01]	geert	its a little bit like malformed state of law
[06:02]	geert	its easier to talk about rights, than duties
[06:02]	geert	making law about duties is more tight, but to get it seriously efficient and not regime, it demand tight thinking
[06:02]	geert	same with code
[06:02]	geert	they turn it around, rather pile than tight code
[06:03]	geert	tight code demand much thinking, to get new hardware dev implemented, takes more time and demands quite tight thinking
[06:03]	geert	then one get very very efficient code, but this is a very very different discussion where much more suggestion need to be thrown out
[06:04]	geert	slower dev, slower implementations, more difficult implementing new hardware
[06:04]	geert	they saw some perspective, and they thought 'money with the bugs' not just in 'security biz'
[06:05]	geert	state of law little bit similar
[06:05]	geert	real tight state of law dont work with 'rights', rather 'duties'
[06:05]	geert	but its less easy
[06:05]	geert	people just rather try easy and try disguise it behind calling state of law with duties 'regime favoring/stimulating' where that absoutely doesn't need be the case
[06:06]	geert	like pollution, now you got this and that so called right, and some pop up another poluting substance and then its legal until law defines forbidden.
[06:07]	geert	if one change that to duty, its by far not immediately police state or regime, but demands - like the code- much tighter thinking
[06:07]	geert	like 'duty to not pollute' 
[06:07]	geert	'duty to not steal'
[06:07]	geert	people chose easy man
[06:07]	geert	choose easy too
[06:07]	geert	generalized
[06:07]	geert	they try it until mess ENFORCES them to fix, it seem to me
[06:08]	geert	this fucking goons, many them
[06:08]	geert	anyways imma try think a little bit about some food in a bit
[06:08]	geert	this not same rules as in 2600 i think huh?
[06:09]	geert	that i wishfully not kb until 'cool down' because some goon think imma hot writing some bunch of lines
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[06:56]	t0talist	i see, most kernel-internal interfaces were not prepared for unit32 timestamps, with linux-2.4 :(
[06:57]	t0talist	even when IBM HPFS used a custom time32 type as unsigned integer; kernel-internal APIs didn't support that
[06:57]	t0talist	for this, year 2014, a giant kernel patch was necessary, to support 32bit timestamps on filesystems until year2106 instead of year2038
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[07:01]	Sompi	It's recommended to use time_t as the datatype for any variables that store unix time
[07:02]	t0talist	yes, and HPFS inside linux-2.4 is an exception to this rule, they intentionally chose unsigned instead of signed 32bit integer
[07:02]	t0talist	this requires a careful test; if HPFS would work, and can be used as root/boot filesystem
[07:03]	t0talist	because, backporting nilfs2, that's too much work, to stabilize and test this, initially, when other show-stoppers may quit the whole idea
[07:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I just thought of another reason the landlord probably doesn't want anyone to know the building is being sold.
[07:05]	DaemonFC	Think about it. If they know the place is about to be sold, they can stop paying rent. He won't be able to evict them for non-payment once the new owners take over. They still owe the old landlord, but not the new one, so as long as they're good with the new one, nobody can evict them.
[07:05]	DaemonFC	The old landlord is just an unsecured debt collector now, and if he thought he had troubles before....
[07:05]	t0talist	i am not sure yet, if x86_64-tcc will work; i began with i386 testing, as a baseline, to verify if kernel will pass this, because there's many other problems to cope with, long before y2038
[07:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], My couch broke. I'm going to try to limp by with it until I know if the landlord is selling or keeping and what's going on with our lease in November.
[07:07]	DaemonFC	If it gets renewed, I have them deliver a new couch and take this one off.
[07:07]	DaemonFC	If it doesn't, well, they can have a broken couch.
[07:07]	DaemonFC	Now isn't the time to buy a new couch and then maybe have to move with it in 6-7 months.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	I suppose I could also measure a new board out, cut it to fit down at the hardware store, and fix the couch myself with a drill/driver.
[07:19]	t0talist	allright, i386-tcc assembler, wasn't never capable to digest various asm inside linux-2.4 (for the bootcode stuff for example)
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[07:27]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> yo dawg, me missiled yo missiles
[07:27]	DaemonFC	Well, you know, that's the thing about the stupid Russians.
[07:27]	DaemonFC	Leaving piles of expensive cruise missiles just sitting there.
[07:27]	DaemonFC	It takes one explosion and they all go off.
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[07:29]	DaemonFC	They don't safeguard or store their munitions that well.
[07:33]	t0talist	it's weird, because i386-tcc assembler can't digest what a code-generate had output from C-to-ASM
[07:34]	t0talist	now i remember, susematz said, i386-tcc missed assembler support for 16bit (real mode iirc), which is what bootsector uses... aaargh
[07:36]	t0talist	this has some rather weird consequences, which is, to assemble 16bit realmode, for linux-kernel, you need some binutils-as and dozens of millions of lines of code and gnu buildsystem clutter; just for this, instead of the few thousand LoC that tcc is
[07:37]	t0talist	bootstrappable.org required a similar stunt, to assemble some of their earliest tiny hex-assembly artifacts of a dozen KiB only, they require llvm-assembler of dozens of millions of LoC
[07:37]	t0talist	see the irony of this?
[07:39]	t0talist	and this raises even more questions, about the whole bootstrapping and boot-sequence of x86, and the software infrastructure required outside legacy DOS
[07:40]	t0talist	because this is, where x86 was coming from.. cp/m DOS... and that's not free
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[07:45]	t0talist	except if i checked FreeDOS, which itself is free, yet i doubt most of the utilities were, including an assembler
[07:45]	t0talist	and, there is no other viable architecture supported
[07:45]	t0talist	checking this quickly... $ arm-tcc linux/arch/arm/boot/bootp/init.S -o /tmp/init ... fails too, requires binutils-as, obviously
[07:46]	t0talist	allright... why is this bad?
[07:47]	t0talist	it's bad, because, by design, assembly requires a giant software-infrastructure (from GNU or llvm), which contradicts the idea, of assembly language, of small and efficient utilities, and clean bootstrapping
[07:49]	t0talist	to assemble a few bytes of a bootsector; dozens of millions of lines of code are required (GNU mostly), which itself got no clean bootstrapping path either
[07:52]	t0talist	allright... FASM, seems relatively clean... however this one may not digest the GNU gas assembly syntax inside linux kernel i fear
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[08:01]	t0talist	i had to rewrite bootsect.S for FASM syntax inside linux kernel, some more notable efforts, just to support a clean bootstrapping of a branch that's deprecated for almost 20 years already :(
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[08:15]	t0talist	besides technical details - assembly language and bootstrapping related infrastructure questions - the whole strategy of GNU/linux (and *nix/*BSD/llvm alike), can be considered compromised (no clean bootstrapping path)
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[08:17]	t0talist	honestly, i am not in the mood to convert assembly syntax; imo, assembly syntax, should be strictly standardized, and implemented by software which got a clean bootstrapping and system-integration (which GNU and binutils hasn't)
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[08:20]	t0talist	to avoid a misunderstanding, i am not aware if *BSD/llvm had a clean system integration and bootstrapping, they probably haven't, it's just i don't follow them, because GNU/linux sufficiently document what i am interested in
[08:20]	t0talist	that's not a blame-game
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[08:23]	t0talist	i won't invest into this
[08:23]	t0talist	to my knowledge, some general electric nuclear plants still rely upon PDP-11 stuff...
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[08:24]	t0talist	which nowadays, is probably "virtualized", on top of the junkyard modern tech is
[08:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yes, the government takes over with no warning, fucks the shareholders and bondholders.
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[08:25]	DaemonFC	Then they wonder why the bank stocks are falling while people don't want to hold them.
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	the pensions will hooold them
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	using monney they pretend to have
[08:25]	schestowitz[TR]	the pinky-promise-in-50-years money
[08:26]	schestowitz[TR]	macron decided to just extand retirement age
[08:26]	schestowitz[TR]	while people die from covid-19
[08:26]	schestowitz[TR]	people live less
[08:26]	DaemonFC	Yeah, "emergency powers" even.
[08:26]	schestowitz[TR]	retirement gone further away
[08:26]	DaemonFC	No vote in one of the legislative chambers.
[08:26]	schestowitz[TR]	crumbling economy
[08:26]	DaemonFC	That must be how "democracy" works.
[08:26]	t0talist	that's another irony... i stumbled upon elsewhere... with german railway, who kept x.25, which is virtualized too (transport accross networks with additional layers below, which contradicted the idea)
[08:26]	DaemonFC	If that's France, which used to be famously not corrupt, we're fucked.
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a wart
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	a war on old people
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	a war on people who worked for 40 years, expecting a pension later
[08:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Maybe this is one area the US system is better.
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	thus, "Emergency"
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it's war in the street
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	the bins aren't picked up
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like a warzone
[08:27]	DaemonFC	There's no way to bypass the "two chambers and the president" like there apparently is in France.
[08:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it.. - gasp - smells
[08:27]	DaemonFC	So they'll have to wait until voters are dumb enough to give the Republicans everything again.
[08:28]	TR News	"The first is a reduction in the number of RTOSes." https://staceyoniot.com/connectivity-has-changed-the-needs-of-the-embedded-market/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
[08:28]	TR Bot	 Connectivity has changed the needs of the embedded market - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[08:28]	DaemonFC	Biden says there's a "red line" on Social Security and Medicare. And even if he's lying, maybe it won't pass the Senate.
[08:28]	t0talist	"red line" how?
[08:29]	DaemonFC	He says it's not up for debate in whether he signs a new budget bill.
[08:29]	DaemonFC	So the Republicans came up with some other budget that's deep cuts to everything but Social Security and the military.
[08:29]	DaemonFC	It would be a disaster if that passed.
[08:29]	t0talist	you mean "everything except"
[08:30]	TR News	"This a major version number bump but without any ground-breaking changes or fireworks." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/20/curl-8-0-0-is-here/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[08:30]	TR Bot	8.0.0 is here | daniel.haxx.se
[08:30]	t0talist	? and disaster, why?
[08:30]	TR News	"We really have no idea exactly how many users or installations of libcurl there are now." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/20/twenty-five-years-of-curl/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[08:30]	TR Bot	years of curl | daniel.haxx.se
[08:30]	DaemonFC	Old people who only get Social Security often need affordable housing programs, Medicaid programs to pay their Medicare bills, and food stamps.
[08:30]	TR News	When you outsource testing to PROPRIETARY software of Microsoft and NSA... "was not discovered in our tests and CI jobs" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/03/20/curl-8-0-1-because-i-jinxed-it/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[08:30]	TR Bot	8.0.1 because I jinxed it | daniel.haxx.se
[08:30]	DaemonFC	They get fucked and die off anyway.
[08:30]	DaemonFC	Even though theoretically no cuts to their Social Security...yet.
[08:31]	DaemonFC	Because all of a sudden, they can't buy food, the price of their rent triples, and they lose half their food stamps.
[08:31]	t0talist	to my knowledge life-expectency in USA, wasn't that low; although lower-income groups, suffer most, as usual, and die early often
[08:31]	DaemonFC	They have to come up with hundreds or thousands a month in medical bills, which by itself is more than a Social Security check.
[08:31]	DaemonFC	And so is rent.
[08:31]	DaemonFC	Food alone is about a third of the entire check!
[08:32]	DaemonFC	So what you'll see are a bunch of hungry old people being evicted and then they die.
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	usa is not a plaCE TO RETIRE
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a place to die
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and quickly
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or become a financial uirden on the kids
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	while you are dying
[08:32]	schestowitz[TR]	so marisol can buy water off some plastic from a truck
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	"*burden
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[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	t0talist: people in germany live a lot longer
[08:33]	DaemonFC	I don't have kids.
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, 82 for men
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	84 for women
[08:33]	DaemonFC	Kids take resources and don't give you anything in return.
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	in us it was 78 or 79
[08:33]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: not east-germany
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it fell by 2 years
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	now about 76 or less
[08:33]	schestowitz[TR]	that's if you'r e a lucky one
[08:34]	DaemonFC	Felta is 71.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	I wonder how it feels for him to be stuck in the house for fear of COVID.
[08:34]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> Kids take resources and don't give you anything in return.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	Or for Jan, which has to put up with him being there all the time.
[08:34]	schestowitz[TR]	in the us, it can be the same with old people
[08:34]	schestowitz[TR]	they become a burden on the kids
[08:34]	schestowitz[TR]	mostly medial expenses
[08:35]	t0talist	age-discrimination... that's political agitation
[08:35]	schestowitz[TR]	some say people have kids to look  after them as they age
[08:35]	schestowitz[TR]	in the p[ast, it was to look after the farm or whatever
[08:35]	t0talist	all age-groups benefit from medical care, and health
[08:35]	schestowitz[TR]	child labour was also routine
[08:35]	t0talist	in fact, to grow old, stay healthy before
[08:35]	schestowitz[TR]	so birth-giving could mean extra workforce
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> I wonder how it feels for him to be stuck in the house for fear of COVID.
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	i would not say "fear"
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	it is arational
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	he is 71
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	covid-19 still kills many
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	or post-covid
[08:36]	schestowitz[TR]	be it side effects of vaccines or long covid
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	in the uk in the first two months of this year we lost like 25k more people than pre----pandemic
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2 months
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	a surplus of 120k people
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	for the year
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	people who otherwise would not die
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	uk as in also scotland and n ireland
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	for wales and england it's over 20k
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	so felta is beiing smart
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	not fear
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	wiisdom
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	theree is still no good treatment for covid-19
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	anf for some the treatment was likely worse than the disease
[08:38]	TR News	"Playwright is a popular end-to-end testing framework that Microsoft backs." https://earthly.dev/blog/playwright-python-api-testing/ | Source: Earthly
[08:38]	TR Bot	 API Testing Using Playwright With Python - Earthly Blog
[08:38]	TR News	"This made me think about how these new tools could fit the world of Flow-Based Programming" https://bergie.iki.fi/blog/fbp-ai-human-collaboration/ |
[08:38]	TR Bot	 Flow-Based Programming, a way for AI and humans to develop together - Henri Bergius in Berlin, Germany
[08:38]	TR News	"It can be difficult to learn abstractions that have little relevance to our direct" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/logical-properties-and-ease/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
[08:38]	TR Bot	 Logical Properties and Ease - Jim Nielsens Blog
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: i have a friend who hypothesises maybe it is a depopulation agenda
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	not by china
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	but governments in general
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	making people less healthy
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	so they don't get to live when they're done being used
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	never enjoying  pensions
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	removing a burden [sic] on pension companies and states
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	making ways for more obedient workers
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	without rights, no unions, just skinnerboxes that register their emptions
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	FL senator greayson said,
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	the republican health care plan is,
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	don't get ill
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	but if you get ill, die quickly
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	I don't agree with him
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not republican
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it's capitalist
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and to some extend democrats are the same
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	people who fought this, like weiner, got canceled
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	dick pic
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	so now in france yoou have abankster  as head of state
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and he write off old people
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	*writes
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	that's what banksters want
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	he is "left"
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and le pen would likelyyy pursue the same
[08:42]	TR News	"Ive been wondering about this in the background of my mind ever since I got interested in OCaml last year." https://batsov.com/articles/2023/03/20/how-are-ocaml-programmers-called/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
[08:42]	TR Bot	 How are OCaml Programmers Called? - (think)
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: for a lot of people,
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	the scarcity is not money
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	but time
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	but marketing teaches them they need to buy lots of things
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	things they don't need
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	like holidays to disneeyland/world
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	so they think they need a lot of money
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	and not more time
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	they die young and barely survive
[08:43]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: Macron doesn't write-off old people, if this is what you are saying; Macron intends to stabilize the pension system, which otherwise will fail, with consequences this might have then
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	fail for who?
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	the pppeople with yachts in the riviera?
[08:44]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: the MAJORITY, if pension-system is inflated to the moon, prices exploded, it's a cycle
[08:44]	TR News	"For the past few weeks I've been ruminating on the pair programming experience I have had at work." https://ntietz.com/blog/betraying-vim-ides-of-march/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Betraying vim for the IDEs of March | nicholas@web
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	t0talist: ok, so he is working people to death
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	great abrgain
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	why live?
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	to make money?
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	to  the person who has only money
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and not ehalth, hobbies etc.
[08:45]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: those yachts, even when obscene, are irelevant to the pension fund stability; even when it's unfair, and injustice, those yachts cannot and will not stabilize any pension system anywhere
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	everyone and everythung is judged by money
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	but peopledo not need a lot of money
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	they need time
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	the scarcity is time
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	they don't get to keep the money when they die
[08:45]	t0talist	yes, that's true
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and bad lifestiles  assuere
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	1) health issues -> die young
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	2) no time
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	so they trade off a man-made concept
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	(money)
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	for lengtrh of life
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	we don't have a way to extend human life
[08:46]	t0talist	however, Macron, intends to raise pension-age, not eldery dying; that's a difference
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	tthey would wwork more
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and already there are many out of work
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	let people tretire at 55
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and make ways for younger une,mployed people
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	to occupy the vacant positions
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but they would not do this
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	why?
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	greed.
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	die, die alreayd
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	you are "old"
[08:47]	t0talist	that's how it works, if people retire before official pension age, their pension is cut-down for each year
[08:47]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: people don't just die because of lower pensions or increased retirement age
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	what they have is many unemployed young people
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and many people who want to stop working and cannot
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	how about replacing them
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	let the young take their jov
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	let the older people rest
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and do something useful
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	until all the young have a right to work
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and to make gainful activities
[08:48]	t0talist	uhm, sure.
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	<t0talist> schestowitz[TR]: people don't just die because of lower pensions or increased retirement age
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	they do
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	they "live" less
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	time worked if not time lived
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	it is time worked
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	for someone else
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	so they live less
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and with lower pensions they  cannot afford some basics, either
[08:49]	t0talist	the definition of living, is a different one, however
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	france has national health service
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	even if under strain
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	states keep people living in cells
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	in the US, 2 million are "alive"
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	in a jail cell
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	is that life?
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe in the zoo sense
[08:49]	t0talist	i know
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	even some zoos give better quality of life
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	for some animals
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	depends on the zoo
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and they have companions, can make offsppring
[08:50]	TR News	"This is where things get extremely weird." https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2023/03/the-joy-of-font-debugging.html | Source: Jussi Pakkanen
[08:50]	TR Bot	 Nibble Stew: The joy of font debugging
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[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	t0talist: you are poor, but you are mfree
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't need to set the alarm to 6am
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and work hard to pay for a piece of junk car
[08:51]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: i didn't sleep at all
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	good
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	you would have to
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	if you had to go to work
[08:51]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: i only inhale the fumes other cars exhaust here
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	lately i've been waking up around midnight each day
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	i go to sleep when it gets dark aroundd 5pm in winter, not 7pm
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	*now
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	but thee point ism
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	going back to france
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	which applies here also btw
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	macron is working for banksters
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	to increase capital gains they want workers alive
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and they want some jiob insecurity
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	for youths
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	this way they can pay them less
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	full employment means more competition across company
[08:53]	t0talist	i wouldn't judge on him, if the pension system isn't stabilized, that's much worse than retirement age raised slightly
[08:53]	t0talist	France was at 62 iirc, germany already is at 67
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[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and less competition accoros things like pay
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	salaries go up
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	*mmor
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	e*more
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	either way, france is becoming lesss attractive to live in
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[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	they say one simpe thing,
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	if you live here, work harrd
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for 2 more years
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for now
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	it might be w4 or 6 later
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	catch covid- die young
[08:54]	t0talist	there was discussions already, in germany, to raise retirement age to 70
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	and this will spread outside france
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	already, in the uk, 55 became 58
[08:54]	t0talist	and there is an explanation for this: demographics
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for "Easrly pension"
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	in the us dsome MAGA extremists wait to set it at 70
[08:55]	t0talist	better to say, there was... mass immigration was supposed to provide the qualitied workforce, to stabilize pension system in germany
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	while the life expectancy there falls 2 years
[08:55]	t0talist	which it, probably won't, it's probably more a burden
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	in just about... 2 years
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	to balance the budget cut military epsndings
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	stop bailing out banksters
[08:55]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: you forgto, the "baby boomer" generation
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	that alone would save triillions
[08:56]	t0talist	that's the real deal, with the pension system
[08:56]	t0talist	too, in USA
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	but they take it all out on "useless eaters"
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	people who wan tto stop going to work because they are frail
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	67 year old people
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	who could give their job to someone younng
[08:56]	t0talist	and there's just no solution to this, in the end, there is no free-lunch, even when it's "higher productivity" nowadays
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	in the US few adults work
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe 60%
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	in ages where they are work-capable
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	in korea and singapore they keep even 80 year old workers
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and the younger people work like 70 hours a week
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	even zoo animals enjoy more freedom
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and people clean their poo
[08:58]	t0talist	that's an understanding, of freedom
[08:58]	TR News	"In my previous article I referred to the short story The Seven Messengers by Dino Buzzati" https://bertrandmeyer.com/2023/03/20/mathematics-seven-messengers/ | Source: Bertrand Meyer
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog Blog Archive The mathematics of the seven messengers - Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	t0talist: what else would be the point of life?
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	"facebook likes?"
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	by spending money
[08:59]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: the meaning of life? it ends.
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	it has been shown empricially that such sites make people miserable
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	even suicidal at times
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. among youth
[08:59]	t0talist	and until then, if you have reasons to asks, that's the problem already
[08:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	life always ennds
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	but what counts is,
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	what's left behimnd
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and ehether the life was agonising
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[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	some people suffer physically every day
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	typical mindset
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	ask a person, why do you work so hard?
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	tthey would say
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	) my kids something something..
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	) when I retire something
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	) after work i do x  z
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	but that assumes you have time after work
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	for many, it is just enokugh time to wash the clothes, sleep, eat
[09:02]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: where? in UK?
[09:02]	TR News	"We cant curmudgeon our way to protecting users." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/calling-out-the-security-community-on-ai/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Calling Out The Security Community on AI - Daniel Miessler
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	t0talist: everywhere
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	more so in east asia
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	japan and korea are quite extreme
[09:02]	t0talist	who knows...
[09:02]	TR News	"Although its unclear if participants have had any tangible success yet" https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjv4vw/people-use-facebooks-leaked-llama-ai-for-tinder | Source: Vice Media Group
[09:02]	TR Bot	 People Trying to Use Facebook's Leaked AI to Improve Their Tinder Matches
[09:02]	t0talist	playing video games? is that work?
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, this is why the term "midlight crisis" exists
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	p[eople reach some age
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	vaguely set around 40
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and then they realise, oh shit
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	i am 4 and did nothing with my life
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	*40
[09:03]	t0talist	i realized that, long time ago
[09:03]	TR News	"But when it comes to opinion pieces, I dont think they should be edited." https://kevquirk.com/thoughts-on-editing-posts/ | Source: Kev Quirk
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Thoughts on Editing Posts | Kev Quirk
[09:03]	t0talist	there was lots of turmoil, in east-germany, to grow-up quickly
[09:04]	TR News	"Seven years ago I created a password manager." https://palant.info/2023/03/20/the-end-of-pfp-pain-free-passwords/ | Source: Wladimir Palant
[09:04]	TR Bot	 The end of PfP: Pain-free Passwords | Almost Secure
[09:04]	t0talist	hence i learned, whatever is worked for, it's expropriated, again, and again
[09:04]	t0talist	apropos, i just decided, to terminate "free software" work, once and for all
[09:04]	t0talist	a little assembly programming, at most, nothing else
[09:04]	TR News	Facebook (STASIberg) exec moans his privacy was violated... cry us a river https://siliconangle.com/2023/03/20/meta-executive-working-greece-hacked-predator-spyware/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[09:05]	TR Bot	executive working in Greece was hacked by Predator spyware - SiliconANGLE
[09:05]	t0talist	because... it's futile
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	what programs?
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	there is already an abunndance of programs
[09:05]	t0talist	if it wasn't, i would work 80hours/week, but it is just futile, to build upon what "free software" is
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	anythiing you want to implement
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	for sure many did it alreadys
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	some inprivacy, secret, priopruiewtrary
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and some shared the code alareayd
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and you can get it and hack on it sof rffrre
[09:06]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: just for fun; knowing, most hardware isn't free either...
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	sorry for typos
[09:06]	t0talist	i'll try the gigatron maybe, or z80, just something, for fun
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	80 hours a week is for "AYE PEE"
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	IP
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	for some company to hoard an dfcontrol others
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	with secret code
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	you can usuuuuuallyu plug together existing coding blocks
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	but tyhen you cannot control thr whole chain
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	because of the licence
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	so abusing other people can be a tad harde
[09:07]	t0talist	i am not abusing anyone
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	rbetter to be unemployed than tow work for FB
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	or for the army
[09:08]	TR News	"The disclosure is the first known case of an American citizen being targeted in a European Union country by the advanced snooping technology, the use of which has been the subject of a widening scandal in Greece." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/world/europe/greece-spyware-hacking-meta.html | Source: New York Times
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Meta Manager Was Hacked With Spyware and Wiretapped in Greece - The New York Times
[09:08]	TR News	"With the exception of the Liberals" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-parliament-committee-majority-wants-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
[09:08]	TR Bot	 EU Parliament Committee: Majority wants chat control Patrick Breyer
[09:09]	TR News	ferrari crakced https://www.securityweek.com/ferrari-says-ransomware-attack-exposed-customer-data/ | Source: Security Week
[09:09]	TR Bot	Says Ransomware Attack Exposed Customer Data - SecurityWeek
[09:09]	TR News	microsoft championing malware https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d9zd5/chatgpt-users-report-being-able-to-see-random-peoples-chat-histories | Source: Vice Media Group
[09:09]	TR Bot	 ChatGPT Users Report Being Able to See Random People's Chat Histories
[09:09]	TR News	"Scores of Twitter users confirmed that they had successfully tested the feature for themselves" https://text.npr.org/1164654551 | Source: NPR
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Got a question for Twitter's press team? The answer will be a poop emoji
[09:11]	TR News	"The new layoffs, which amount to less than 3 percent of its corporate work force" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/technology/amazon-layoffs.html | Source: New York Times
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Amazon Plans to Lay Off Another 9,000 Employees - The New York Times
[09:11]	TR News	AWS clown computing = LAYOFFS! (Same as Microsoft Azure) Bubbles bursting at long last? https://text.npr.org/1164694122 | Source: NPR
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Amazon is cutting another 9,000 jobs as tech industry keeps shrinking
[09:11]	TR News	"Some of the key provisions in the current National Cybersecurity Strategy relate to the private sector" https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2023/03/thoughts-biden-national-cybersecurity-strategy | Source: uni Stanford
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Thoughts on the Biden National Cybersecurity Strategy | Center for Internet and Society
[09:12]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: the bootstrapping and system integration issues (with GNU/linux), aren't licensing-related, it's technical issues, which are a hindrance to "free software", or how they call themselves
[09:12]	t0talist	it's just, not free; and they attack "freedom of choice" in particular, leaving you with fake choices only, if at all
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	better than OEMs
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	look what "Mapple" offer you
[09:17]	TR News	Microsoft stuffed/stacked this. "Mr. Scott Charney, Microsoft Corp., Subcommittee Chair" "Mr. Kevin Reifsteck, Microsoft Corp., Working Group Co-Lead" "Mr. Robert Spiger, Microsoft Corp., Working Group Co-Lead" https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-03/Draft%20NSTAC%20Strategy%20for%20Increasing%20Trust%20Report%20(1-31-23)_508.pdf | Source: CISA
[09:18]	TR News	"poses a serious threat to the privacy of Canadians and to their rights to hold and express opinions" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/03/canadian-chamber-of-commerce-warns-on-government-backed-bill-c-18-motion-a-serious-threat-to-the-privacy-of-canadians/ | Source: Michael Geist
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Canadian Chamber of Commerce Warns on Government-Backed Bill C-18 Motion: A Serious Threat to the Privacy of Canadians - Michael Geist
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:21]	TR News	teachers https://www.commondreams.org/news/los-angeles-teachers-strike | Source: Common Dreams
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Tens of Thousands of LA Teachers to Strike in Solidarity With Support Workers
[09:21]	TR News	Bailing Out the Undeserving RichAgain https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/bailing-out-the-rich | Source: Common Dreams
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Bailing Out the Undeserving RichAgain | Common Dreams
[09:22]	TR News	Attacking the hungry, just like Jesus? https://www.commondreams.org/news/republican-attacks-snap-10-million | Source: Common Dreams
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Analysis Warns 'Punitive' Republican Attacks on SNAP Could Take Food Aid From 10 Million+
[09:23]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: Mapple Wintel don't claim to be "free software"
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[09:39]	t0talist	i propose the term, virtualized freedom, in a technical context, which GNU/Linux and BSD/llvm offer
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	you are aexaggerating
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	if you want freedom,
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	uuse pen and paper
[09:40]	t0talist	there's that many barriers and fences around this, to keep cattle jailed inside what they whishthiked was free, when it isn't in reality
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	you also have penic as a choice
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and rubber
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	*penncil
[09:40]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: yes, pencil and paper
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	in a society you will have less freedom
[09:40]	t0talist	that's one way to go
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	like, you cannot make your own paper
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	the way you want it 
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	but you have some choices
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	you can also dismantle
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	the pen and the pencil
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	to understand how they work
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and to modify them
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	you can make your own filing cabinet
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	with "bllog posts" in it
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and backups
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it doesn't requirre system updates
[09:41]	t0talist	pencil and paper got another benefit, their product-lifecycle, and price
[09:42]	schestowitz[TR]	this past weeknd i took a list of vendors to check and things to buy  on a piece of paperr
[09:42]	schestowitz[TR]	it didn't need me charging some batteries
[09:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's a lot thinner than devices
[09:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it's less then 1mm thick
[09:43]	schestowitz[TR]	*then
[09:43]	schestowitz[TR]	i found lots of things we needed
[09:43]	schestowitz[TR]	even 5 large protein shakes
[09:43]	t0talist	i'll probably sell the remaining rock64 SBC too; i'll give that another week or two of thinking
[09:44]	schestowitz[TR]	must have saved like 200 pounds just on those shakes
[09:45]	t0talist	the asm issues, with incompatible syntax among GNU and FASM and nasm... that pushed beyond my limits, to consider that "free"
[09:45]	TR News	iophk: neglects to point out the obvious fact that Microsoft is writing its own regulations https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2023/03/thoughts-biden-national-cybersecurity-strategy
[09:45]	TR Bot	 Thoughts on the Biden National Cybersecurity Strategy | Center for Internet and Society
[09:46]	TR News	"Traditionally, Linux was a reserve for developers, system administrators, and Enterprise users for hosting websites and other applications." https://www.tecmint.com/best-linux-distributions-for-beginners/ | Source: TecMint
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Top Linux Distributions for Beginners in 2023
[09:46]	t0talist	and with GNU binutils, it's not only a chicken-and-egg issue, with the binutils assembler, a tiny sparrow shall lay and hatch an egg the size of tyrannosaurus-rex
[09:46]	t0talist	that's how it is, with GNU/linux... no way, i'm out
[09:47]	t0talist	this problem had escaped my attention too long, because asm hacking isn't prominently discussed, and the related bootstrapping/system-integration issues that exist with it
[09:47]	TR News	"GOG are doing their own Spring Sale live now, and during it they will be giving away four free games" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/gog-spring-sale-is-live-with-more-free-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR Bot	Spring Sale is live with more free games | GamingOnLinux
[09:50]	TR News	"The NanoPi R6C is a compact embedded board powered by the Rockchip RK3588S System-on-Chip." https://linuxgizmos.com/nanopi-r6c-taps-rockchip-rk3588s-soc/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[09:50]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/nanopi-r6c-taps-rockchip-rk3588s-soc/ )
[09:51]	TR News	"I remember when I carried around a set of DVDs with different operating system disks." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/developing-your-rhel-image-builder-strategy | Source: Red Hat Official
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Developing your RHEL image builder strategy
[09:51]	TR News	"The Fifth Element and Crazy Taxi are both classics" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/mile-high-taxi-out-now-blending-crazy-taxi-with-the-fifth-element/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR Bot	HiGH TAXi out now blending Crazy Taxi with The Fifth Element | GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR News	"Do you enjoy games like Vampire Survivors, Brotato and the other horde survival games? You may want to look at Striving for Light: Survival." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/striving-for-light-survival-blends-popular-horde-survivor-games-with-a-big-skill-tree/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR Bot	for Light: Survival blends popular horde survivor games with a big skill tree | GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR News	"Diablo 4 is currently in Beta and due to launch soon, so here's how to get it working on Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/03/heres-how-to-run-diablo-4-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:51]	TR Bot	how to run Diablo 4 on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[09:53]	TR News	"The Dreamcast is probably best known as the swansong of Segas ambitions as a gaming console manufacturer" https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/dreamcast-linux-looking-back-at-linux-on-a-superh-based-gaming-console/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:53]	TR Bot	Linux: Looking Back At Linux On A SuperH-based Gaming Console | Hackaday
[09:53]	TR News	wikileaks https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/a-politicla-wikileaks-and-the-team-behind-shangri-la-glastonbury-curate-an-evening-of-art-music-and-change/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
[09:53]	TR Bot	 a/politicla, WikiLeaks and the Team Behind Shangri-La Glastonbury Curate an Evening of Art, Music and Change. - Don't Extradite Assange
[09:54]	TR News	"LEGO spaceship sets used to come with these little wedge blocks painted with fake gauge" https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/working-artificial-horizon-built-into-a-single-lego-brick/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:54]	TR Bot	Artificial Horizon Built Into A Single LEGO Brick | Hackaday
[09:57]	TR News	Minutes ago we could see that once again (NEW data release) the number of deaths in 2023 is STILL greater than in 2022 for the week https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2023 tuesday's ons numbers continue to show unhealthy population. Pandemic unsolved.
[09:57]	TR Bot	 Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
[09:59]	TR News	The pandemic is _SO_ over that 'only' 120,000 ADDITIONAL Brits die each year... in 2023.... what's 120,000 ADDITIONAL deaths anyway? Go back to the office! Take off the mask, it's useless! What are you, a CRANK?
● Mar 21
[10:00]	TR News	Cold War Listening Post Antennas https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/cold-war-listening-post-antennas/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:00]	TR Bot	War Listening Post Antennas | Hackaday
[10:00]	TR News	"a paper was published in Nature" https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/another-room-temperature-superconductivity-claim-and-questions-of-scientific-integrity/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:00]	TR Bot	Room-Temperature Superconductivity Claim And Questions Of Scientific Integrity | Hackaday
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[10:05]	TR News	SpellBinding: AITNRSK Wordo: TAROT gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-03-21.gmi
[10:11]	TR News	 (NEW): GNU: What's new in Jami and a2ps 4.15.2 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/GNU_What_s_new_in_Jami_and_a2ps_4_15_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/GNU_What_s_new_in_Jami_and_a2ps_4_15_2.gmi 
[10:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU: What's new in Jami and a2ps 4.15.2
[10:12]	TR News	 (NEW): #HowTo Install a Non-Snap/.deb Version of Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/How_to_Install_a_Non_Snap_deb_Version_of_Firefox_on_Ubuntu_22_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/How_to_Install_a_Non_Snap_deb_Version_of_Firefox_on_Ubuntu_22_0.gmi 
[10:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines How to Install a Non-Snap/.deb Version of Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04
[10:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Texas Instruments unveils AM62A, AM68A and AM69A Arm Cortex Vision processors and devkits http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/Texas_Instruments_unveils_AM62A_AM68A_and_AM69A_Arm_Cortex_Visi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/20/Texas_Instruments_unveils_AM62A_AM68A_and_AM69A_Arm_Cortex_Visi.gmi 
[10:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Texas Instruments unveils AM62A, AM68A and AM69A Arm Cortex Vision processors and devkits
[10:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Assess security risks in your open source project with Scorecard http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Assess_security_risks_in_your_open_source_project_with_Scorecar.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Assess_security_risks_in_your_open_source_project_with_Scorecar.gmi 
[10:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Assess security risks in your open source project with Scorecard
[10:18]	TR News	"In online spaces, VTubers have been steadily growing in popularity in the past few years" https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/live2d-silently-subverting-threat-models/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:18]	TR Bot	Silently Subverting Threat Models | Hackaday
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:23]	TR News	fcc https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/fcc-staffers-routinely-held-stock-in-telecom-giants-they-regulated/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:23]	TR Bot	Staffers Routinely Held Stock In Telecom Giants They Regulated | Techdirt
[10:23]	TR News	fbi https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/congressional-rep-who-discovered-his-info-was-illegally-searched-by-the-fbi-likely-has-no-legal-remedy/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:23]	TR Bot	Rep Who Discovered His Info Was Illegally Searched By The FBI Likely Has No Legal Remedy | Techdirt
[10:45]	TR News	Back Doors Proponent Microsoft Infiltrates Panels That Write the Security Regulations, Press Fails to Point Out the Obvious | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/21/microsoft-stacking-panels-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/21/microsoft-stacking-panels-2023/
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Back Doors Proponent Microsoft Infiltrates Panels That Write the Security Regulations, Press Fails to Point Out the Obvious | Techrights
[10:46]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[10:46]	TR News	artwork https://hackaday.com/2023/03/20/modifying-artwork-with-glaze-to-interfere-with-art-generating-algorithms/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:46]	TR Bot	Artwork With Glaze To Interfere With Art Generating Algorithms | Hackaday
[10:47]	TR News	"First Amendment" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/antisemitic-conspiracy-theorist-who-sued-youtube-for-1st-amendment-violations-now-owes-youtube-nearly-40000/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:47]	TR Bot	Conspiracy Theorist Who Sued YouTube For 1st Amendment Violations Now Owes YouTube Nearly $40,000 | Techdirt
[10:48]	TR News	section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/reminder-section-230-protects-you-when-you-forward-an-email/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:48]	TR Bot	Section 230 Protects You When You Forward An Email | Techdirt
[10:49]	psydroid2	as of today I have fibre here but I need to get a new wireless "access point" to make use of the gigabit speeds it offers
[10:49]	psydroid2	using the cable I get pretty much all of the bandwidth they promise
[10:49]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2: only ethernet?
[10:49]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2: yes,  but  in buursts
[10:50]	schestowitz[TR]	in practice you fel the difference only when sending very large files outside thee LAN
[10:50]	schestowitz[TR]	so you pay  extra for just the odd occassion
[10:50]	schestowitz[TR]	(IME)
[10:51]	psydroid2	schestowitz[TR], sure, but there was just a 10 price difference so I thought "let's try and see"
[10:51]	psydroid2	I can always drop back to 100 mbps after a year
[10:51]	psydroid2	or choose another provider entirely
[10:51]	schestowitz[TR]	here they made it cheaper than copper
[10:51]	schestowitz[TR]	at least temporarily
[10:51]	schestowitz[TR]	to move people off the old infra
[10:52]	psydroid2	I am moving from cable
[10:52]	psydroid2	which offers less upload and costs more
[10:52]	psydroid2	and they're increasing prices in july
[10:52]	psydroid2	so lots of people are leaving
[10:53]	TR News	"The recent [cr]acker attacks on Optus and Medibank have been well publicised" https://michaelwest.com.au/latitude-financial-shows-us-how-not-to-do-it-whats-the-scam/ | Source: Michael West Media
[10:53]	TR Bot	 Latitude Financial shows us how not to do it. What's the scam? - Michael West
[10:53]	psydroid2	the former cable monopolist is still behaving like a monopolist
[10:53]	psydroid2	who would have thought
[10:53]	psydroid2	whereas KPN (the Dutch BT) lost lots of customers over the years
[10:54]	TR News	pokemon https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/pokemon-anime-community-up-in-arms-as-shopro-issues-copyright-strikes-on-youtubers/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:54]	TR Bot	Anime Community Up In Arms As ShoPro Issues Copyright Strikes On YouTubers | Techdirt
[10:54]	TR News	vermont https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/20/vermonts-supreme-court-obtaining-real-time-cell-site-location-data-requires-a-warrant/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:54]	TR Bot	Supreme Court: Obtaining Real Time Cell Site Location Data Requires A Warrant | Techdirt
[10:58]	psydroid2	so they had to make a more compelling offer
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[11:00]	TR News	Theft is legal when the government is the facilitator https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/21/reckless-capitalist-banks-rescued-by-government-socialism-again/ | Source: Counter Punch
[11:00]	TR Bot	Capitalist Banks Rescued by Government Socialism Again! - CounterPunch.org
[11:01]	TR News	"Digital dictatorship marks the combination of algorithms, the invisible computer codes that increasingly run the Internet" https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/21/algorithmic-dictatorship/ | Source: Counter Punch
[11:01]	TR Bot	Dictatorship - CounterPunch.org
[11:01]	TR News	Wall Street Times is on the same side as the criminals https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/21/the-nyts-irresponsible-reporting-on-bank-crises/ | Source: Counter Punch
[11:01]	TR Bot	NYT's Irresponsible Reporting on Bank Crises - CounterPunch.org
[11:02]	TR News	China does not need USA as much as USA needs China https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/03/21/chinas-foreign-policy-lessons-for-the-united-states/ | Source: Counter Punch
[11:02]	TR Bot	Foreign Policy: Lessons for the United States - CounterPunch.org
[11:03]	TR News	"AT&T " https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/03/why-you-should-opt-out-of-sharing-data-with-your-mobile-provider/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[11:03]	TR Bot	 Why You Should Opt Out of Sharing Data With Your Mobile Provider Krebs on Security
[11:04]	TR News	 (NEW): NanoPi R6C taps Rockchip RK3588S SoC http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/NanoPi_R6C_taps_Rockchip_RK3588S_SoC.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/NanoPi_R6C_taps_Rockchip_RK3588S_SoC.1.gmi 
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines NanoPi R6C taps Rockchip RK3588S SoC
[11:06]	TR News	"The billionaire industrialist Oleg Deripaska has filed a lawsuit against Maria Pevchikh" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/03/20/oligarch-oleg-deripaska-sues-navalny-associate-maria-pevchikh-for-libel | Source: Meduza
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Oligarch Oleg Deripaska sues Navalny associate Maria Pevchikh for libel Meduza
[11:07]	TR News	Does EBM predispose to COVID contrarianism? https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/03/20/the-cochrane-mask-fiasco-does-ebm-predispose-to-covid-contrarianism/ |
[11:07]	TR Bot	 The Cochrane mask fiasco: Does EBM predispose to COVID contrarianism? - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[11:08]	TR News	"You can also find this episode on the Internet Archive." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/podcast-episode-so-you-think-youre-critical-thinker | Source: EFF
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Podcast Episode: So You Think Youre A Critical Thinker | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:08]	TR News	"bugs in our pockets" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/sign-petition-and-tell-eu-legislators-dont-scan-us | Source: EFF
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Sign The Petition And Tell EU Legislators: Dont Scan Us | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:08]	TR News	"Tell the European Parliament: Stop Scanning Me" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/eu-lawmakers-must-reject-proposal-scan-private-chats | Source: EFF
[11:08]	TR Bot	 EU Lawmakers Must Reject This Proposal To Scan Private Chats | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:09]	TR News	"Click to launch interactive map. Google's Privacy Policy applies." EFF takes MONEY from Gulag. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/cbp-expanding-its-surveillance-tower-program-us-mexico-border-and-were-mapping-it | Source: EFF
[11:09]	TR Bot	 CBP Is Expanding Its Surveillance Tower Program at the U.S.-Mexico BorderAnd We're Mapping It | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:09]	TR News	"In 2022, a group of major recording labels won $47 million in damages from Internet provider Grande Communications." https://torrentfreak.com/major-labels-want-isp-to-pay-additional-12-million-in-piracy-liability-case-230320/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:10]	TR Bot	Labels Want ISP to Pay Additional $12 Million in Piracy Liability Case * TorrentFreak
[11:10]	TR News	"After almost 17 years online, file-hosting veteran Zippyshare will shut down at the end of the month." https://torrentfreak.com/zippyshare-file-hosting-veteran-calls-it-quits-2006-2023-230320/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:10]	TR Bot	Quits After 17 Years, 45m Visits Per Month Makes No Money * TorrentFreak
[11:12]	TR News	Stain of Corporate Media https://www.commondreams.org/news/media-coverage-iraq-war | Source: Common Dreams
[11:12]	TR Bot	 20 Years Later, the Stain of Corporate Media's Role in Promoting Iraq War Remains
[11:18]	TR News	Kids working overnight https://truthout.org/articles/kids-found-to-be-working-overnight-shifts-at-minnesota-meat-processing-plant/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:18]	TR Bot	 Kids Found to Be Working Overnight Shifts at Minnesota Meat Processing Plant - Truthout
[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[11:21]	TR News	Trumpism https://truthout.org/articles/warren-says-trump-picked-jerome-powell-has-failed-as-chair-of-federal-reserve/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:21]	TR Bot	 Warren Says Trump-Picked Jerome Powell Has Failed as Chair of Federal Reserve - Truthout
[11:21]	TR News	Seems steep https://truthout.org/articles/alex-jones-is-allegedly-giving-away-millions-to-avoid-1-4b-sandy-hook-payout/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:21]	TR Bot	 Alex Jones Is Allegedly Giving Away Millions to Avoid $1.4B Sandy Hook Payout - Truthout
[11:23]	TR News	schultz https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz-steps-down-early-just-days-before-senate-hearing/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:23]	TR Bot	 Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz Steps Down Early, Just Days Before Senate Hearing - Truthout
[11:23]	TR News	"As a nonprofit dedicated to supporting the sharing and reuse of creativity and knowledge" https://creativecommons.org/2023/03/20/cc-supports-the-case-for-controlled-digital-lending/ | Source: Creative Commons
[11:23]	TR Bot	 CC Supports the Case for Controlled Digital Lending - Creative Commons
[11:25]	TR News	France https://www.commondreams.org/news/france-protests-2659625188 | Source: Common Dreams
[11:25]	TR Bot	 'The Fight Continues' in France as Macron Government Survives No-Confidence Vote
[11:34]	TR News	Curious ICC timing. Way to change the subject from Bush II and Tony Bliar getting detained by ICC and prosecuted. "LET'S MAKE IT ABOUT RUSSIA...."
[11:35]	TR News	Putin commits war crimes, Bush et al just make "mistakes" that they don't regret and never get punished for
[11:42]	TR News	Links 21/03/2023: Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 LTS | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/21/trisquel-gnulinux-11-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/21/trisquel-gnulinux-11-0/
[11:42]	TR Bot	 Links 21/03/2023: Trisquel GNU/Linux 11.0 LTS | Techrights
[11:43]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[11:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[11:43]	XRevan86	> Because the msdos-style partitioning scheme does not support (with 512 byte sectors) hard disks that are larger than 2 TB, it also means that with these Acers non-Windows users cannot use hard disks larger than two terabytes.
[11:44]	XRevan86	Sompi
[11:45]	XRevan86	Sompi: Did ye know that every system with UEFI will also have "msdos-style partitioning"?
[11:45]	XRevan86	So that means no one can have a drive larger than 2 terabytes?
[11:46]	Sompi	One can always have a protective GPT or other partitioning scheme that pretends to be a msdos partition table while it actually isn't
[11:47]	Sompi	But it is just extra kludge
[11:47]	XRevan86	Sompi: It's what everyone does, it's a non-issue.
[11:47]	Sompi	It makes things more complicated than is needed
[11:47]	XRevan86	Non-Windows users will not have any problems with that.
[11:48]	Sompi	It depends on the OS and what the OS supports
[11:48]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Girl Genius: Adventures In Castle Heterodyne, Deadnaut: Signal Lost, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Games_Girl_Genius_Adventures_In_Castle_Heterodyne_Deadnaut_Sign.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Games_Girl_Genius_Adventures_In_Castle_Heterodyne_Deadnaut_Sign.gmi 
[11:48]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Girl Genius: Adventures In Castle Heterodyne, Deadnaut: Signal Lost, and More
[11:49]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[11:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[11:49]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[11:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[11:50]	XRevan86	Sompi: If ST-DOS is something ye wrote yourself with a custom partition table, just move it outside LBA 0.
[11:51]	Sompi	Currently it does not support partitioning at all. The file system just starts from block 0.
[11:54]	XRevan86	Sompi: Shift it 512 bytes and implement a jump at byte 0? (first 446 bytes of MBR is the boot sector)
[11:56]	Sompi	I'll implement partitioning and try to work around the problem
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[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:23]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/funny-pictures-3-20-23-23.jpg
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[13:12]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/23030241
[13:12]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living /p/23030241
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[13:15]	TR News	Gulag's YouTube did not have a business model. Will this work? They tried many times and failed. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/youtube-tv-prices-are-going-up-heres-what-youll-pay-now/
[13:15]	TR Bot	TV Prices Are Going Up. Here's What You'll Pay Now - CNET
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[13:17]	TR News	Linux Has Become Complicated And Limiting (GNOME, Wayland, etc) https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=1EIpek60rs0
[13:17]	TR Bot	 Linux Has Become Complicated And Limiting (GNOME, Wayland, etc) - Invidious
[13:18]	TR News	Docker vs Open Source, Ubuntu fights Python issues, Fedora 38 beta: Linux & Open Source News https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=tgtZr1WHj9Y
[13:18]	TR Bot	 Docker vs Open Source, Ubuntu fights Python issues, Fedora 38 beta: Linux & Open Source News - Invidious
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[13:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Videos: Kernel, Athena OS, and more
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[13:36]	TR News	 (NEW): Qualcomm Robotics RB1 and RB2 development kits launched for $199 and up http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Qualcomm_Robotics_RB1_and_RB2_development_kits_launched_for_199.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Qualcomm_Robotics_RB1_and_RB2_development_kits_launched_for_199.gmi 
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Qualcomm Robotics RB1 and RB2 development kits launched for $199 and up
[13:40]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu Flatpak Remix: A New Flavor of Ubuntu for Flatpak Enthusiasts http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Ubuntu_Flatpak_Remix_A_New_Flavor_of_Ubuntu_for_Flatpak_Enthusi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Ubuntu_Flatpak_Remix_A_New_Flavor_of_Ubuntu_for_Flatpak_Enthusi.gmi 
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu Flatpak Remix: A New Flavor of Ubuntu for Flatpak Enthusiasts
[13:43]	TR News	What Will Happen When Banks Go Bust? Bank Runs, Bail-Ins and Systemic Risk https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/03/18/what-will-happen-when-banks-go-bust-bank-runs-bail-ins-and-systemic-risk/
[13:43]	TR Bot	 What Will Happen When Banks Go Bust? Bank Runs, Bail-Ins and Systemic Risk neritam
[13:43]	TR News	Canada among central banks banding together to calm markets after UBS deal to buy Credit Suisse https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/credit-suisse-ubs-bank-merger-1.6784048
[13:43]	TR Bot	 Canada among central banks banding together to calm markets after UBS deal to buy Credit Suisse | CBC News
[13:44]	TR News	Even bailouts won't stabilise a broken market https://www.cnn.com/collections/int-1703-banks/
[13:44]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.cnn.com/collections/int-1703-banks/ )
[13:45]	TR News	Global banking crisis: One big problem down, too many others left to go https://www.cnn.com/collections/intl-banks-crisis-200223/
[13:45]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.cnn.com/collections/intl-banks-crisis-200223/ )
[13:45]	TR News	Loaded and false headline from the Jeffrey Epstein Times https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/18/world/canada/why-canadas-banks-remain-stable-and-resilient.html
[13:45]	TR Bot	 Why Canadas Banks Remain Stable and Resilient - The New York Times
[13:47]	TR News	Crisis as a Self-fulfilling Prophecy Hangs Over European Banks https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Crisis-as-a-Self-fulfilling-Prophecy-Hangs-Over-European-Banks-20230320-0011.html
[13:47]	TR Bot	 Crisis as a Self-fulfilling Prophecy Hangs Over European Banks | News | teleSUR English
[13:47]	TR News	US Financial Collapse Drags Down European Banks https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Financial-Collapse-Drags-Down-European-Banks-20230310-0014.html
[13:47]	TR Bot	 US Financial Collapse Drags Down European Banks | News | teleSUR English
[13:49]	TR News	The banking crisis might not be over https://www.vox.com/business-and-finance/2023/3/20/23648853/credit-suisse-ubs-silicon-valley-signature-banking-crisis
[13:49]	TR Bot	Credit Suisse almost failed and whats next in the banking crisis - Vox
[13:50]	TR News	Asian Stocks Sink After Credit Suisse Takeover usnews.com/news/business/articles/2023-03-20/asian-stocks-sink-after-credit-suisse-takeover
[13:51]	TR News	But WHO is the lender here? Was this cosensual? No. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Credit-Suisse-Announces-Multibillion-dollar-Loan-From-SNB-20230316-0015.html
[13:51]	TR Bot	 Credit Suisse Announces Multibillion-dollar Loan From SNB | News | teleSUR English
[13:51]	TR News	Investors welcome plunder of the taxpayers. Investors steal from the general public. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/20/business/markets-today.html
[13:51]	TR Bot	 Stock Markets Wobble as Investors Eye Fallout From Credit Suisse Rescue - The New York Times
[13:52]	TR News	Domino brick hangs onto another domino brick https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/business/ubs-credit-suisse.html
[13:52]	TR Bot	 UBS Agrees to Buy Rival Credit Suisse to Shore Up Global Market - The New York Times
[13:53]	TR News	Credit Suisse's buyout by Swiss-rival UBS results in further panic throughout global banking system https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/credit-suisses-buyout-swiss-rival-ubs-results-further-panic-throughout-global-banking-system-1714362
[13:53]	TR Bot	 Credit Suisse's buyout by Swiss-rival UBS results in further panic throughout global banking system
[13:54]	TR News	UBS holds talks to save Credit Suisse https://www.dw.com/en/ubs-holds-talks-to-save-credit-suisse-report/a-65038194
[13:54]	TR Bot	holds talks to save Credit Suisse report DW 03/19/2023
[13:55]	TR News	This is not an actual solution but more of a cover-up, they're buying time https://www.dw.com/en/ubs-and-swiss-national-bank-agree-to-credit-suisse-takeover/a-65041855
[13:55]	TR Bot	and Swiss National Bank agree to Credit Suisse takeover DW 03/20/2023
[13:55]		*psydroid2 hails the elaborate scheme to keep the US financial pyramid intact
[13:55]	TR News	Why are investors worried? Well, duh, they see the dominos losing balance. https://www.dw.com/en/credit-suisse-deal-why-are-investors-worried/a-65048770
[13:55]	TR Bot	Suisse deal: Why are investors worried? DW 03/20/2023
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2: x owes y owes z
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	x is not doing well at the moment
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	don't worry
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	we'll inject money into x
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	at the expense of   z
[13:57]	TR News	No, it has only CAUSED more PANIC. It's contagious. https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/03/19/ubs-buys-credit-suisse-bank-acostanr-vpx.cnn
[13:57]	TR Bot	UBS buying Credit Suisse should offer some 'comfort' to markets, reporter says | CNN Business
[13:58]	TR News	Turns out there's not much money in those secretive "Swiss" shells/shills https://www.cnn.com/collections/int-1703-banks/
[13:59]	TR News	Canada's national media explains the Ponzi Scam https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ubs-credit-suisse-explainer-1.6784957
[13:59]	TR Bot	 The UBS-Credit Suisse deal, visually explained | CBC News
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[14:00]	TR News	But Jeffrey Epstein Times (NYT) said Canada was robust to it. Turns out it speaks for Wall Street and Bill Gates, not for the readers. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/credit-suisse-ubs-bank-merger-1.6784048
[14:00]	TR Bot	 Canada among central banks banding together to calm markets after UBS deal to buy Credit Suisse | CBC News
[14:02]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[14:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[14:09]	TR News	SystemRescue 10.00 is out https://www.system-rescue.org/Changes-x86/
[14:09]	TR Bot	 SystemRescue - ChangeLog
[14:10]	TR News	Tails 5.11 is out https://tails.boum.org/news/version_5.11/index.en.html
[14:10]	TR Bot	 Tails - Tails 5.11 is out
[14:13]	TR News	 (NEW): New Releases of BSDs and GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/New_Releases_of_BSDs_and_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/New_Releases_of_BSDs_and_GNU_Linux.gmi 
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Releases of BSDs and GNU/Linux
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[14:24]	TR News	The Photo Ops Festival of the Funky President Antnio Campinos and Revolt From the Patent Examiners Whom He Perpetually Oppresses | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/21/epo-revolt-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/21/epo-revolt-2023/
[14:24]	TR Bot	 The Photo Ops Festival of the Funky President Antnio Campinos and Revolt From the Patent Examiners Whom He Perpetually Oppresses | Techrights
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[14:34]	TR News	[Meme] EPOs Management Brainstorm | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/03/21/brainstorm-at-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/21/brainstorm-at-epo/
[14:34]	TR Bot	 [Meme] EPOs Management Brainstorm | Techrights
[14:37]	TR News	Antisemitism on Twitter has more than doubled since Elon Musk took over the platform https://theconversation.com/antisemitism-on-twitter-has-more-than-doubled-since-elon-musk-took-over-the-platform-new-research-201830
[14:37]	TR Bot	 Antisemitism on Twitter has more than doubled since Elon Musk took over the platform new research
[14:37]	TR News	Musk is sending a photo of himself to journalists https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-twitter-poop-emoji-autoreply-press-email-1850243014
[14:37]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Sets Poop Emoji as Autoreply to Twitter's Press Email
[14:39]	TR News	Spy bemoans being spied on. Spying on billions = GOOD BUSINESS SENSE. Spying on one person = OMG! THIS IS TOO MUCH! https://gizmodo.com/facebook-meta-security-seaford-predator-spyware-greece-1850243980
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Facebook Security Exec Seaford Hacked by Greek Predator Spyware
[14:40]	TR News	Facebook = social CONTROL media, i.e. the opposite of socialising ttps://www.telesurenglish.net/analysis/What-Is-Behind-Facebook-Deleting-teleSUR-Englishs-Page-20180816-0010.html
[14:41]	TR News	South African, backed by Saudi oil money to hijack a communication platform, supports fascism in another country (USA) https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elon-musk-thinks-trump-will-re-elected-landslide-victory-if-arrested-1714333
[14:42]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk thinks Trump will be re-elected with landslide victory, if arrested
[14:44]	TR News	SVBcollapse: experts worry that 'fall-out risks spreading' as bank stocks plummet https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/svb-collapse-experts-worry-that-fall-out-risks-spreading-bank-stocks-plummet-1714157"
[14:44]	TR Bot	 SVB collapse: experts worry that 'fall-out risks spreading' as bank stocks plummet
[14:46]	TR News	US Stock Market Indexes Suffer Losses https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Stock-Market-Indexes-Suffer-Losses-20230315-0018.html
[14:46]	TR Bot	 US Stock Market Indexes Suffer Losses | News | teleSUR English
[14:47]	TR News	Microsoft and ethics can never coexist https://www.drydeadfish.co.uk/winners-and-losers-the-steam-deck-sees-its-first-sale-as-microsoft-drops-its-ai-ethics-team/
[14:47]	TR Bot	 Winners and Losers: The Steam Deck sees its first sale as Microsoft drops its AI ethics team | DryDeadFish
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[14:49]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/21/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[14:50]	TR News	Story Engine RPG gemini://consp.org/blog/2023/2023-03-21-story-engine-rpg.gmi
[14:51]	TR News	how to create a partition larger than 2TB with fdisk gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2023-03-21-how-to-create-a-partition-larger-than-2tb-with-fdisk.gmi
[14:53]	TR News	It's good that ICC is willing to arrest war criminals who invaded countries based on a bunch of lies. ICC has summoned or issued arrest warrants for Cheney and Bush, right?
[14:54]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1lDjiXE4
[14:54]	TR Bot	 I'm a direct Microsoft employee. So I found out I'm being layed-off - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[14:54]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1lDIn9rP
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Microsoft lays off team that taught employees how to make AI tools responsibly - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[14:55]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1lAf9W3Z
[14:55]	TR Bot	 The end of start-ups - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[14:55]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/latest-microsoft-layoff-wave-hits-supply-chain-cloud-iot-employees
[14:55]	TR Bot	Microsoft Layoff Wave Hits Supply Chain, Cloud, IoT Employees | CRN
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[15:09]	psydroid2	"I'm a direct Microsoft employee and I think I live in 1789 and have just seen Napoleon come and destroy the company where I expected to retire. What is my destiny now?"
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[15:10]	TR Bot	 Rumours of More Microsoft Layoffs Tomorrow (Including Managers!), Probably Azure Again (Many Azure Layoffs Every Year Since 2020) | Techrights
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	phanes: 
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	azure is winning !!!
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	seeing microsoft
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like in a battlefield
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	many dead legions
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	all dead
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	phanes: this is sparta!!
[15:10]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft is WINNING!
[15:13]	psydroid2	"winning a one-way trip to the guillotine?"
[15:15]	psydroid2	the supply chain broke apart
[15:16]	psydroid2	someone called me a few hours ago for a KNIFEISSHARP .CRAP position
[15:17]	schestowitz[TR]	another blow incoming..
[15:19]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2:  DRAFT: http://techrights.org/2023/03/21/march-2023-africa/
[15:19]	schestowitz[TR]	typos?
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Web Survey Shows Microsoft Falling Below 15% Market Share in Africa, Only One Minuscule African Nation Has Windows Majority | Techrights
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[15:21]	psydroid2	no typos that I could find
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[15:24]	schestowitz[TR]	psydroid2: thanks
[15:25]	schestowitz[TR]	interesting times..
[15:25]	schestowitz[TR]	next game LFC
[15:25]	schestowitz[TR]	in rather awful form
[15:25]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.mancity.com/fixtures
[15:25]	TR Bot	 Manchester City 2022/23 Fixtures - Manchester City FC.
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[15:56]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/chrismbt_/status/1638199991058546693#m
[15:56]	TR Bot	 chris (@chrismbt_): "@HardcoreMetal89 @Puertorock77_ @TWTHEREDDRAGON @JayDubcity16 This guy is a Microsoft shill. Here is the evidence http://techrights.org/wiki/Florian_M%C3%BCller" | La Contre-Voie - nitter
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[16:06]	TR Bot	 3 Months Late Sirius Open Source Finally Deletes Us From the Fraudulent Meet the Team Page (But Still Lists Many People Who Left Years Ago!) | Techrights
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[16:28]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is Sacking People Every Month This Year, Even Managers (While Sponsored Media Produces Endless Chatbot Chaff) | Techrights
[16:30]	TR News	Lots and lots of "ChatGPT" spam in the media, acting as a smokescreen while Microsoft culls a lot more people than it admits to the media. http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Layoffs#March_2023
[16:30]	TR Bot	 Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights
[16:31]	TR News	Crimes of Sirius Open Source -- an arrest by year's end? http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source
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[16:51]	t0talist	assembly languages, in principle, are a big problem, for free software
[16:51]	t0talist	because those are both, hardware-dependent of cause, and too different assemblers exist for each hardware-variant, with incompatible syntax
[16:52]	t0talist	that's why, GNU gas and binutils are desireable without doubt; however I consider the system integration and bootstrapping of GNU including binutils flawed
[16:53]	t0talist	several developers, who tried to support alternative toolchains/compilers with linux kernel, more or less, gave up on this
[16:53]	t0talist	don't quote me, those developers included, Bellard himself, susematz, and myself
[16:54]	t0talist	and the former, are much more proficient and competent with assembly hacking and bare metal programming than me
[16:55]	t0talist	linux kernel, chose to support llvm/clang even... imagining what a giant project this is, to cope with the particular problem of assembly included
[16:56]	t0talist	bootstrappable.org too chose llvm - a giant monstrosity of dozens of millions of LoC - to assemble a tiniest boot-loader for x86_64.bin of a dozen KiB assembly
[16:56]	t0talist	that's how, a tiny sparraw had to lay and hatch a gigantic tyrannosaurus egg; i call this the sparrow-tyrannosauris--egg-problem of bootstrapping and system-integration
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[16:57]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The Meme That Team UPC (the Collusion to Break the European Laws, for Profit) Threats to Sue Us For | Techrights
[16:58]	t0talist	i think, to cope with the bootstrapping problem of linux kernel (version 2.4 or any other); i must extensively dive into the whole x86 assembly programming realm
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	^ crimes of the german government
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and they now threatenn me
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	with copyrioghts
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[16:59]	t0talist	and even then, i had to re-integrate GNU binutils (like Oasis Linux did, just for that reason; i tell you the oasis linux developer knows what he's doing)
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[17:00]	t0talist	however, oasis linux didn't address various bootstrapping/system-integration issues, which i already solved or was working to solve those
[17:01]	t0talist	and i think, tcc-toolchain is/was a better starting point than cproc/qbe, because tcc implemented an assembler and linker too, which cproc/qbe is missing
[17:02]	t0talist	the good thing, with cproc-qbe, it already repaired the whole system-integration of binutils, which is one of the most important issues to solve, for GNU bootstrapping
[17:03]	t0talist	that's one reason why, bootstrappable.org, and any other, couldn't solve yet, hence their reliance on llvm to assemble their tiny x86_64.hex bootloading code
[17:04]	t0talist	mistake: *the good thing with Oasis linux, it already repaired the whole system-integration of binutils
[17:05]	psydroid2	assembly languages are a problem and instruction sets are a problem
[17:05]	psydroid2	when will this madness ever end??
[17:06]	t0talist	well, that's in fact something, GNU gas and binutils are relevant for, and desireable
[17:06]	t0talist	however, the system-integration of GNU itself is flawed, that's why i blocked it
[17:07]	t0talist	that's why, it is such a HUGE task, to practice both, x86(64) asm hacking, AND binutils system-integration (similar to how oasis linux did it)
[17:08]	t0talist	because, a powerful assembler that binutils got, is useless, if it can't be integrated; and just as said, the GNU build system itself, is a problem
[17:09]	t0talist	that's why, i want to avoid much of GNU, not because of it's license - GPL is fine as far as i am concerned - instead because of technical problems with GNU autohell
[17:13]	t0talist	and i tend to think, for x86(64), i may prefer FASM over binutils/gas; which required a rewrite of the bootsect.S and others
[17:14]	t0talist	that's a task, when a dozen lines of code to study and rewrite, may require weeks of study and work
[17:17]	t0talist	besides firmware, assembly programming, is another proprietary coffin nail drilled into "free software"
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[17:21]	t0talist	most "free software" such as GNU and *BSD, just hide this problem, behind giant code-generators and macro-expanders (this is what compilers and assemblers are)
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[17:29]	t0talist	and i see, since linux-2.6; the bootcode for x86/64 was re-implemented; linux-2.4 contained a bootsect.S file; and since 2.6 this was re-written completely
[17:30]	t0talist	so, just in case, i could repair the bootcode assembly for linux-2.4; and later decided to move forwared with linux-2.6/4.x/5.x; then again i had to rewrite/hack those parts
[17:31]	t0talist	and there's much assembly inside syslinux bootloader, which i am using (non-UEFI); that's another hackjob, to verify what's going on inside syslinux bootloader
[17:35]	t0talist	Bellard btw. invested much effort into qemu (to emulate/simulate x86[_64] with) ... no surprise, because hardware support
[17:42]	t0talist	and there was other nasty things going on with the transition of linux-2.4 -> 2.6; such as the dependency on gcc -S to emit GNU gas compatible assembly, for a yet unknown reason
[17:44]	t0talist	that's very tricky, because, you couldn't re-implement various asm parts, without removing the code-generator related parts (cmd_cc_s_c), which generated GNU gas specific code
[17:44]	t0talist	so both may have to be fixed, assembly, and the code-generator of gcc -S for this
[17:44]	t0talist	ouch
[17:47]	t0talist	to avoid this problem... you're stuck with linux-2.4 for a little while, to detangle from GNU; and linux-2.4 isn't year2038 ready
[17:48]	t0talist	IBM HPFS filesystem, may be tested on x86_64 to see, if this could surpass y2038 to y2106 on linux-2.4... chances are it may
[17:49]	t0talist	however, then linux-2.4 got other problems (such as the usb-ethernet and usb-host controller problems to assign an IRQ, which is broken, and the usb-ethernet dongles require backporting of drivers, just for this)
[17:50]	t0talist	that's years of work, just to salvage a linux development branch, which is deprecated for almost 20 years already, and for x86(64) _only_;
[17:50]	t0talist	for aarch32 and/or sparc[64] i am not aware of any free/open assembler implementation alternative to GNU gas...; and hardware is even more scarce
[17:53]	t0talist	sparc[64]; was the Airbus/EADS choice, little while ago... you see, how this ended... even when trillion cash business was involved... 
[17:54]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: GNU/linux had not required to patent a single line of software or any hardware, and it's all locked and blocked still
[17:55]	psydroid2	you can write assembly code that doesn't use any of the generated parts
[17:55]	psydroid2	but you'll have to do it by hand, I suppose
[17:56]	psydroid2	because I don't know what GNU gcc -S generates and why
[17:56]	t0talist	yes; and even then, a whole bunch of blockers remain, to fork at linux-2.4, for x86_64 only(!)
[17:56]	psydroid2	and I have no incentive to find out
[17:58]	t0talist	and i see, linux-2.4 too uses gcc -S at many places; it's just bootsect.S isn't affected by this
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[18:00]	t0talist	so, they're generating GNU gas specific assembly for *.c source files... aaarrrrgh
[18:02]	t0talist	at bare minimum, binutils system-integration had to be fixed, like Oasis Linux did it; and even then, pre-generated ASM files had to replace those inside linux kernel which are generated by gcc -S there; that's another ouch
[18:03]	t0talist	psydroid2: it's somewhat ironic, because C compilers were intended just for this, to abstract vendor-specific asm, to avoid ISA/vendor specific assembler... ludicrous
[18:11]	t0talist	tcc invested alot, to implement GNU extensions... they didn't implement a gcc -S equivalent, for an unknown reason
[18:11]	t0talist	and i don't know, why linux kernel, requires this
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[18:17]	psydroid2	because it's a junkyard full of garbage code
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[19:13]	t0talist	schestowitz[TR]: http://techrights.org/2020/01/05/history-canceled/
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[19:13]	t0talist	i am wondering, what angered Bill Gates that much, over CP/M
[19:14]	t0talist	back-tracking, this is where i arrived at, 1970s assembly hacking... and this is how i see this fatality related
[19:14]	t0talist	anti-competitive habits of the industry, since then
[19:16]	t0talist	i don't know, if a dis-assembler had sufficed, at that time, to "open-source" any software; and documentation of ISAs, how those should behave
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[19:23]	t0talist	at the time, when MS-DOS and CP/M were common, "open source", that was ASM, ideally commented
[19:24]	t0talist	and if something is missing there, a disassembly of a few KiB of HEX, can be several man-years of reverse-engineering required
[19:44]	mjg59_	You'd need to be pretty bad at reverse engineering to spend several person-years REing a few KB
[19:54]	t0talist	mjg59_: You'd need to be rather good at reveng, to require only a few man-years for a few KiB
[19:56]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/learning-to-build-consistent-electronics-from-2d-materials/
[19:56]	TR Bot	 New method gets better performance out of atomically thin transistors | Ars Technica
[19:56]	mjg59_	t0talist: ? I routinely RE more than that
[19:59]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1923060
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[20:01]	t0talist	mjg59_: how many years of study did you need, to reach the lever of expertise?
[20:02]	t0talist	*level
[20:02]	mjg59_	Study? None, it was just practice
[20:02]	t0talist	then practice, how many years?
[20:02]	mjg59_	Look, people used to break copy protection schemes on new releases in under a day
[20:03]	mjg59_	You're wildly overstating how difficult this is or how few people have the required knowledge
[20:03]	t0talist	IntelME wasn't cracked open.. wasn't it?
[20:03]	mjg59_	In what way?
[20:04]	mjg59_	In terms of running arbitrary code? No, because it requires signed firmware.
[20:04]	t0talist	mjg59_: in any way
[20:04]	mjg59_	In terms of REing what it does? Yes.
[20:04]	mjg59_	The firmware isn't encrypted
[20:04]	mjg59_	People have found vulnerabilities as a result of REing it
[20:04]	t0talist	and another example, i hacked some custom scrambler into squashfs compression... it's only three lines of C-code... and i am willing to bet, it requires months of work, to break-open my version of "secure boot"
[20:05]	mjg59_	Cool, want to send it to me?
[20:05]	t0talist	i could upload some kernel.img if you wished, and some root.squashfs which is scrambled
[20:05]	mjg59_	Sure
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[20:07]	t0talist	mjg59_: i don't disagree with you, in fact i consider cracking and reveng, alot of work and effort, which requires highly skilled hackers; and there isn't that many of them
[20:08]	mjg59_	t0talist: But remember that were you to ever publish a Linux kernel binary, you'd be obliged to distribute the source code to it as well
[20:08]	t0talist	mjg59_: LZ4 is BSD licensed... isn't it?
[20:08]	mjg59_	t0talist: Not when it's part of the kernel binary
[20:08]	mjg59_	The kernel, as a whole, is GPLed
[20:09]	mjg59_	Which is why it can only incorporate code under GPL-compatible licenses
[20:09]	t0talist	mjg59_: ok, yet GPL; i am not worried to publish sources, if you wished, you would still need the scrambler-seed... and i tend to think revealing passwords isn't subject to GPL
[20:10]	mjg59_	How is the seed passed to the kernel?
[20:10]	t0talist	-DSCRAMBLER_SEED
[20:11]	t0talist	i even got that hacked into IPsec stack, while ago, however, decided to abandon ipsec for other reasons, and hacked SSH instead, to support high-speed scrambling this way
[20:11]	mjg59_	So, firstly, extracting that from the binary would be trivial. And secondly, no, the source code requires you to provide the scripts used to control compilation and installation of the executable, which is understood to include the configuration required to generate an equivalent binary from the source
[20:12]	t0talist	mjg59_: wrong, it's NOT trivial
[20:12]	t0talist	and as things are currently, i don't publish nothing, no binaries, no sources
[20:13]	t0talist	otherwise, GPL doesn't abandon labor-market regulations either, for what i am doing... which is another legal aspect to this
[20:17]	XRevan86	https://forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2023/03/21/andrei-masalovich-avalanche-russia-cambridge-analytica/
[20:17]	TR Bot	 Exclusive: Meet Russias Cambridge Analytica, Run By A Former KGB Agent Turned YouTube Influencer
[20:18]	t0talist	i see, linux-2.4 got no squashfs... another one to backport... i wouldn't need that, because on x86, i am booting from read-only.ISO, instead of root.squashfs on aarch32/64
[20:19]	t0talist	because that's the main reason, to avoid _tampering_, to enforce read-only for specific parts
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[20:20]	t0talist	and besides, you can't intercept the boot-sequence anymore, even when there's nothing "encrypted", you can't circuumvent /bin/login easily
[20:23]	t0talist	to intercept /bin/login, you'd need to crack-open the -DSCRAMBLER_SEED; i am even willing to abandon all posix ACL, and deploy a UID=0 root-only system setup with this, to crunch down on memory consumption, and for the sake of simiplicity
[20:24]	t0talist	but forking, linux-2.4, for x86_64 (because year2038), _only_... i don't know, probably not
[20:25]	t0talist	and i wasn't aware sparch64 (sparc leon) hardware was readily available from Airbus/EADS
[20:25]	t0talist	and there's no free/open assembler for sparc64 to my knowledge, which fit into the acceptance criteria
[20:26]	t0talist	it's interesting too, pcc compiler, which OpenBSD supported little while ago... pcc did have sparc64, tcc hasn't got sparc64... another bingo
[20:27]	t0talist	so, yep, backtracking this, 1970s gigatron ttl Z80 type hacking, that's what remains
[20:27]	t0talist	at Deutsche Telekom university, i attended the Motorola 68K lecture, which was the latest greates free sh**t at that time
[20:28]	t0talist	meanwhile, it's rather difficult, to acquire 68K parts (used inside Eurofighter Typhoon according to wiki)
[20:28]	t0talist	68k too was the Ti89 series calculator, which was introduced after 1990, in saxony... it's defunct nowadays
[20:29]	t0talist	i stumbled upon Texas Instruments elsewhere, which was the MSP430 for KNX radio stuff... none of this is free/open by the definition of it
[20:31]	t0talist	with KNX radio, it's only some numeric pin number iirc, to "reverse engineer" ... good luck with that, if you could pick up any of this above noise floor on a digital scope
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[20:31]	phanes	ill never forget my little 68k performa macintosh
[20:34]	t0talist	i consider dirwolf, a high-profile project, although it too locked into c++ (cmake)
[20:34]	t0talist	with direwolf, you got access to ALL OSI-layers, in particular layer1 and layer2 (phsycial and link, which is what is firmware-blobbed almost always, the military/telco stuff)
[20:35]	t0talist	i mean, it's feasible, to establish Telco-infrastructure, with direwolf
[20:36]	t0talist	Gigatron TTL, got some sound/DSP stuff... and direwolf documents, how X.25 physical linking could be established, as soft-modem
[20:36]	t0talist	that's all, telco management of six-figure salaries... while i am sucking on unemployment paychecks, because...
[20:37]	t0talist	which is something, the most high ranking political prominence in "germany" couldn't grasp
[20:38]	t0talist	they'll regret it... it's billions of cash shredded
[20:39]	t0talist	the encryption expert, at telekom university, was a friendly person... 
[20:40]	t0talist	in his lecture, he explained the weaknesses of PGP/RSA, 20 years ago
[20:41]	t0talist	i got some notes, which are useless
[20:41]	t0talist	it too was germany, who sponsored GPG, although i lost interest in GPG2
[20:42]	t0talist	GPG1 supports 8K RSA, it's a configure swithc only... weird, GPG2 doesn't anymore
[20:42]	t0talist	same with SSHv1... i think could utilize 8K RSA, SSHv2 abandones the support to scale this up
[20:42]	t0talist	that's the system-integration perspective of it
[20:45]	t0talist	so yeah, Telekom, AT&T, in retro-spective, i consider locking-down some parts, crucial, to protect freedom, to prevent some commercial interests, to pick up those parts
[20:45]	t0talist	that's management perspective, and there was rumors, some telco managers, weren't that dumb
[20:45]	t0talist	i'm playing stupid on this
[20:50]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/03/20/food-puns-thepunnyworld-twitter/
[20:50]	TR Bot	 30+ Deliciously Funny Food Puns From @ThePunnyWorld Twitter Account
[20:56]	mjg59_	There's no point in 8k RSA
[20:56]	mjg59_	For all viable known brute force attacks, 4K is more than sufficient
[20:56]	mjg59_	And if there's an unknown weakness, 8K is not going to save you
[20:57]	DaemonFC	Increasing the cipher strength is not always a great idea, if the algorithm itself is full of bugs or backdoors.
[20:57]	DaemonFC	In many cases, you just increase the workload on the system and then you're still gaining nothing past a certain point.
[20:58]	t0talist	mjg59_: wrong
[20:58]	DaemonFC	If the US federal government wants to break your encryption, I mean, God knows OpenSSL isn't going to help you.
[20:58]	DaemonFC	They're paying people to sabotage it.
[20:58]	DaemonFC	And those people are not competent anyway even if they weren't corrupt.
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[20:59]	t0talist	mjg59_: i don't remember what the shortcut was, to weaken RSA brute-force, there is some
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[21:00]	DaemonFC	The US dropped its "no export" law on "strong" crypto.
[21:00]	DaemonFC	There was no need for it anymore.
[21:00]	DaemonFC	They'd sabotaged it anyway and OpenSSL is such a horrible program.
[21:00]	t0talist	linear-feedback-shift-registers... aren't implement with linux kernel ... i did
[21:00]	DaemonFC	The entire program is basically a ruse.
[21:01]	t0talist	and added non-primitive recursion to this
[21:01]	t0talist	it's the fastest design ever
[21:01]	t0talist	and the strongest, even in 32bit
[21:01]	DaemonFC	It's designed to be insecure but it accomplishes this mostly by being full of dead and insane code that looks like it's just full of bugs and written by some deranged people.
[21:01]	DaemonFC	Which gives them deniability.
[21:02]	t0talist	however, LFSR, are the symmetric part, and the assymmetric one is related to SSHv1, GPGv1, which were phased out
[21:06]	t0talist	with all this: LFSR, RSA, ECB-mode, the trick is, this must be implemented correctly
[21:06]	t0talist	THEN, only then, it's safe and simple
[21:07]	t0talist	anyway, i was trained for telko management, not reveng, that's what i consider myself, telco manager
[21:08]	t0talist	although, we did dissect EVERYTHING, down to digital circuitry level
[21:08]	t0talist	nowadays, ... i see nukes dropping, over what this is, nowadays
[21:09]	t0talist	i was the best student, year 2001, digital circuitry
[21:10]	t0talist	Prof. Dr. Dipl. Ing. Egon Hilt, designer of ESA earth observation satellite systems
[21:10]	t0talist	Berlin University
[21:11]	t0talist	however, it was more maths
[21:11]	t0talist	and i failed miserably, the equivalent of MIT signal processing lecture, of analog circuitry, it was just TOO MUCH
[21:11]	t0talist	in parallel, to all the other mental garbage dumped into the brains
[21:12]	t0talist	i am the manager, missing at SVB and credit suisse, who, 20 years later, have to bail-out on trillions of cash wasted
[21:14]	t0talist	if i operated a Bank, i knew, where money had to be routed
[21:14]	t0talist	billions of it
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[21:19]	AdmFubar	https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/03/21/ferrari_cyber_incident_data_theft/
[21:19]	TR Bot	 Ferrari in a spin as crims steal customer data The Register
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[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:20]	t0talist	a buddy of mine, the glider pilot, died in a fatal accident, another university
[21:20]	t0talist	there was, just too many "accidents"
[21:21]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/21/stanford_ai_alpaca_taken_offline/
[21:21]	TR Bot	 Stanford takes costly, risky Alpaca AI model offline The Register
[21:21]	t0talist	my cousin, smashing a car with 5 passengers, into a tree?
[21:21]	t0talist	little later, the glider pilot, smashing in front of a train?
[21:21]	t0talist	i don't believe this story
[21:21]	t0talist	this wasn't "accidents"
[21:22]	t0talist	and there's an open "bill", remaining for this
[21:22]	t0talist	and i see the war criminals, responsible for this, hanging
[21:24]	t0talist	2
[21:25]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/ecuador-journalist-usb-bomb-ecuavisa
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Ecuadorian TV presenter wounded by bomb disguised as USB stick | Ecuador | The Guardian
[21:39]	t0talist	absolution
[21:39]	t0talist	and i didn't study latin, to know, what it is
[21:40]	t0talist	my grammar school certificate, excluded latin and hebrew
[21:41]	t0talist	nonetheless, i could re-construct some language artifacts, back to stone age 5000 years ago
[21:41]	t0talist	they wiped, all evidence, for this
[21:42]	t0talist	they had to, to "justifiy" their "globalization" agenda
[21:43]	t0talist	nowadays, i am listening, to my masters, in politics
[21:43]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2023/03/20/1164705654/france-retirement-age-emmanuel-macron-no-confidence-vote-protest
[21:43]	TR Bot	 Why France is in revolt over President Macron's move to raise the retirement age : NPR
[21:43]	t0talist	when east-germany fell, 1990, too some particular west-german business did
[21:44]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-pi2, ^
[21:44]	t0talist	HAMEG scopes? gone
[21:45]	t0talist	HAMEG, was transferred to Rohde&Schwarz (or what remained of it)
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[21:46]	t0talist	HAMEG, Telefunken, Rohde&Schwars WAS a ... german whatever
[21:46]	t0talist	german, not english
[21:47]	t0talist	and, not french either, for that matter
[21:48]	MinceR	(cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/03/20/funny-facebook-posts/
[21:48]	TR Bot	 30 Facebook Users Share The Funniest Posts They've Ever Come Across
[21:48]	t0talist	the maths, was greek, i didn't certifiy for greek either
[21:49]	t0talist	the old HAMEG scopes, were analog ones
[21:49]	t0talist	nowadays, the Rohde&Schwarz equipment, that's all ... i can't drink as much as i wanted to puke over this
[21:50]	t0talist	at least, i go an index, for the books and library required
[21:50]	t0talist	got
[21:52]	t0talist	as far as Motorola was concerned, another fatal "accident", not sure which it was, which plane disappeared form radar, and crashed into the oceans some place
[21:53]	AdmFubar	https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/03/chatgpt-fire-steam-engine-lightbulb-sat/673451
[21:53]	TR Bot	( status 308 @ https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/03/chatgpt-fire-steam-engine-lightbulb-sat/673451 )
[21:53]	t0talist	anyway, i would still prefer, to do the maths with pencil and paper, just because... it's the most long-lasting option
[21:53]	AdmFubar	https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/03/chatgpt-fire-steam-engine-lightbulb-sat/673451/
[21:53]	TR Bot	 Why All the ChatGPT Predictions Are Bogus - The Atlantic
[21:55]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/21/why-link-taxes-like-canadas-c-18-represent-an-end-to-an-open-web/
[21:55]	TR Bot	Link Taxes Like Canadas C-18 Represent An End To An Open Web | Techdirt
[21:57]	AdmFubar	https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/20/pickle-launches-its-truck-unloading-robot-arm/
[21:57]	TR Bot	launches its truck unloading robot arm | TechCrunch
[21:58]	AdmFubar	https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/21/notorious-hacking-forum-shuts-down-after-administrator-gets-arrested/
[21:58]	TR Bot	hacking forum shuts down after administrator gets arrested | TechCrunch
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[22:00]	t0talist	"greek thats the longest recorded written history"... only if rune script was considered lost
[22:01]	t0talist	otherwise, it's germanic
[22:01]	t0talist	and even older greek dialect
[22:01]	t0talist	lol
[22:01]	t0talist	and then, i saw planes crashing
[22:04]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/john_deere_sfc_gpl/
[22:04]	TR Bot	 John Deere, surrender your source code, demands SFC The Register
[22:04]	t0talist	i think, it's both, the scientific, and too the ordinary life, of archaic greek, which was lost, after 1990
[22:05]	t0talist	the "source code", lol, begining with the food i am eating nowadays
[22:05]	t0talist	and the whole lifestyle, with all social and sexual activity absent
[22:06]	t0talist	this doesn't require satire anymore
[22:06]	t0talist	i appreciate the feminist spin to this
[22:06]	t0talist	hey
[22:08]	t0talist	they still seem to wishtink, some shell script, and wallpapers swapped, for yet another distro, that's the future\
[22:08]	t0talist	lol
[22:09]	t0talist	manhatten, this was the nuke
[22:09]	t0talist	strange, they moved to california, RAND corp, John von Neumann
[22:09]	t0talist	another lol
[22:10]	t0talist	they don't speak german over there
[22:10]	t0talist	"planet of the apes", return to, this is my favorite, when, in the end, the hero pushes the button
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[22:11]	t0talist	detonating the globe, with a cobalt enriched one
[22:13]	t0talist	Ukraine... i could comment on this too, a little
[22:16]	t0talist	free software, and encryption, intersects slightly, only, with nuclear proliferation
[22:17]	t0talist	from a philosophical perspective, that's how i mock them: "speed of light, thats a fake"... in all school books
[22:17]	phanes	yap yap yap yap yap
[22:17]	AdmFubar	https://www.alternet.org/got-to-be-kidding-me/
[22:17]	TR Bot	got to be kidding me': MSNBC host spooked by revelation that climate change is making fungus deadlier - Alternet.org
[22:18]	phanes	AdmFubar, that's an existential threat to the continuation of our species btw.  If fungus adapts that way it'll just fucking end us.  Quickly.
[22:19]	MinceR	our own species is an existential threat to its own continuation
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-03-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:21]	phanes	MinceR, yeah but your warning label ignoring neighbor just drives poorly and wants to sterilize youth -- the fungus would just kill everyone deader than dog shit
[22:22]	phanes	it would make everyone batshit crazy while it figured out how to do it too
[22:22]	MinceR	good, at least the fungus might do it faster and with less suffering than the methods humanity prefers
[22:22]	phanes	even by our standards
[22:23]	MinceR	i still prefer a GRB, though
[22:23]	phanes	GRB?
[22:24]	MinceR	gamma ray burst
[22:25]	phanes	yeah you'd be begging for one if a fungus that was comfy in the human body started growing on every surface you come into contact with
[22:26]	phanes	it would be a lovecraftian style of societal collapse too
[22:26]	phanes	fungus is no joke
[22:26]	MinceR	and again, not much of value would be lost
[22:43]	phanes	every improvement you can imagine and more is part of the potential of humanity
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[23:00]	MinceR	so is exterminating itself painfully
[23:12]	phanes	at least pretending to
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