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techrights-news"the number of Gemini capsules has more than doubled, so too has the number of unique domains hosting Gemini content, and the number of unique IP addresses didn’t quite double but got close." http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/3-years-of-gemini/Jun 21 00:00
techrights-newsAs shown above, EPO staff is eager to make it loud and clear that the status quo at the EPO isn’t acceptable and the president is unfit to run the Office http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-opinion-poll-campinos-survey/Jun 21 00:00
techrights-newsEPO President António Campinos violates the Code of Conduct of the Office he claims to be leading; he’s in no position to call for civility http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/epo-campinos-foul-mouthed/Jun 21 00:00
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techrights-news"It's wild how, unlike cars and planes, trains kill basically 0 people per year. I can't even find statistics about it, but it seems to be below 1,000 per year vs. over a million from automobiles" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiJun 21 00:09
techrights-news"A similar thrift store a few blocks down recently stopped selling VHS tapes, and I spent hours looking around for them. The place had records, it had tons of books, it even had compact cassettes. But no VHS tapes" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1024Jun 21 00:11
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techrights-newsHow Much Incel Terrorism Can We Prevent With Kindness? https://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-much-incel-terrorism-can-we-prevent-with-kindness/Jun 21 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | How Much Incel Terrorism Can We Prevent With Kindness? - Daniel MiesslerJun 21 00:13
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/gn4nnr.jpgJun 21 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/gn4nnr.jpg )Jun 21 00:13
techrights-newsUpdate: base64dump.py Version 0.0.22 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/06/17/update-base64dump-py-version-0-0-22/Jun 21 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.didierstevens.com | Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.22 | Didier StevensJun 21 00:14
techrights-newsACM pushing "HEY HI" hype and bullshit https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/articles/261864-how-smarter-ai-will-change-creativity/fulltextJun 21 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | How Smarter AI Will Change Creativity | Opinion | Communications of the ACMJun 21 00:14
techrights-newsThere is no labour shortage but a shortage of shareholders and managers with empathy towards other human beings https://cacm.acm.org/news/261162-addressing-labor-shortages-with-automation/fulltextJun 21 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | Addressing Labor Shortages with Automation | News | Communications of the ACMJun 21 00:15
techrights-news"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 740 for the week of June 12 – 18, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/06/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-740/Jun 21 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 740Jun 21 00:17
techrights-news"I've enjoyed seeing the rise and fall of mobile games - and the effects it's had on the wider gaming landscape. As the mobile market has slowly shifted towards gacha and idle mechanics, a lot of the enjoyable precepts of "lunch break gaming" have become heavily integrated into the indie landscape." gemini://pluviam95.smol.pub/entry4Jun 21 00:22
techrights-news"But what could be interesting about such a computer today? What was new and innovative back then is mostly outdated today: The Atari had no real multitasking, it could load up to 6 additional so-called desk accessories, but could only run one main program at a time." gemini://datapulp.smol.pub/atari-st-what-a-computerJun 21 00:23
techrights-news"Something also had to happen to the keyboard. The keys were extremely yellowed. So I took off all the keycaps and exposed them to the sun in a solution of half water, half bleach for a day as well. They became much less yellow, but unfortunately I couldn't get rid of the yellowing completely." gemini://datapulp.smol.pub/atari-260st-retrobrightingJun 21 00:24
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D267.jpgJun 21 00:25
techrights-news"The legislation includes wrecking terminology which specifically tears up almost all aspects of the Irish Protocol. It reverses three years of negotiations concluded by the EU and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in January 2020." https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/uk-pm-boris-johnson-rips-up-brexit-protocol-60570Jun 21 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | UK PM Boris Johnson rips up Brexit ProtocolJun 21 00:28
techrights-newsNO: "the agreements concerning e-commerce, fisheries subsidies, and COVID-19 vaccines deserve to be celebrated." They've just killed millions of people to protect the patent monopolies. WTO needs to be abolished for humanity's sake https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/tradeworld/the-wto-ministerial-agreement-problematic-progress/Jun 21 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlanticcouncil.org | The WTO Ministerial Agreement – Problematic Progress - Atlantic CouncilJun 21 00:29
techrights-news"In 1994, Hutu extremists slaughtered 800,000 Tutsi using nail-spiked clubs, machetes and other weapons. A UN unit led by Chief Prosecutor Serge Brammertz is still trying to track down those responsible, but it is a race against time." https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/searching-for-the-final-suspects-of-the-rwandan-genocide-a-c8438dd7-a59c-43a8-85d8-74348f38e400#ref=rssJun 21 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spiegel.de | Searching for the Final Suspects of the Rwandan Genocide - DER SPIEGELJun 21 00:30
techrights-newsClockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility | Tom's Hardware ⚓ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/devterm-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-adapter ䷉ Source: tomshardwareJun 21 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility | Tom's HardwareJun 21 00:31
techrights-newsRaspberry Pi TV Simulator Tunes in to Retro Channels | Tom's Hardware ⚓ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-tv-simulator ䷉ Source: tomshardwareJun 21 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi TV Simulator Tunes in to Retro Channels | Tom's HardwareJun 21 00:32
techrights-newsBeaglebone Black still going strong http://box.matto.nl/beaglebone-black-still-going-strong.htmlJun 21 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beaglebone Black still going strong - box.matto.nlJun 21 00:32
AdmFubaroh what could go wrong!   https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/20/redbean_2_a_singlefile_web/Jun 21 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Unbelievable: A single-file web server that runs on six OSes • The RegisterJun 21 00:33
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techrights-newsDebian and Ubuntu Miscellany • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166271Jun 21 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Miscellany | Tux MachinesJun 21 00:39
techrights-newsVideos: Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 and "Boycott Wayland. It breaks everything!" • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166270Jun 21 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 and "Boycott Wayland. It breaks everything!" | Tux MachinesJun 21 00:40
techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: Beaglebone, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166269Jun 21 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Beaglebone, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino | Tux MachinesJun 21 00:40
techrights-newsChromeOS can now open more archive files including 7z, iso, and tar https://9to5google.com/2022/06/20/chromeos-archives-7z-iso-tar/Jun 21 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ChromeOS can open more archives including 7z, iso, & tar - 9to5GoogleJun 21 00:44
MinceR(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/xFqwBYyJun 21 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Just a little happy post of our kitties - Album on ImgurJun 21 00:49
techrights-newsHighest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the Transparency https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/Jun 21 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the TransparencyJun 21 00:54
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techrights-newsFinally. The longest day.Jun 21 00:59
techrights-newsProgramming and HowTos • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166272Jun 21 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming and HowTos | Tux MachinesJun 21 01:06
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166273Jun 21 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 01:06
techrights-newsLinks 21/06/2022: KDE e.V. Votes and Gemini’s Birthday | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/kde-e-v-votes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/kde-e-v-votes/Jun 21 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/06/2022: KDE e.V. Votes and Gemini’s Birthday | TechrightsJun 21 01:08
DaemonFCGolden Corral seems to have recovered from COVID.Jun 21 01:24
DaemonFCFor a while there, business was kind of blah.Jun 21 01:24
DaemonFCToday, the place was packed, the food was a lot better than it was during the COVID panic.Jun 21 01:25
DaemonFCI like how everyone was panicking about COVID and now nobody even pays any attention to it.Jun 21 01:25
DaemonFCThat's how "Bigger Problems" work.Jun 21 01:25
DaemonFCBiden got in and fucked everything else up and now COVID's not #1 anymore because there's like 11 things that are worse than that thanks to Biden.Jun 21 01:26
DaemonFCHe did fulfill a campaign promise. He got us past fear of COVID. Now he's got people afraid of losing their jobs, savings, and home.Jun 21 01:26
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schestowitz_TRit's not a biden thingJun 21 01:32
DaemonFCThe rich people who don't need government incentives to buy an EV are the only people who can afford one. Maybe if Pete "If you can't afford a gallon of gas for your clunker, just get an EV." Buttf*** and JB Prickster, who keeps taking more from us to give to rich people who buy EVs would get out of the way and give us some tax relief on an ongoing basis, we could get through this.Jun 21 01:34
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DaemonFCThey're talking about a federal gas tax holiday right before the election they're about to lose big time.Jun 21 01:35
DaemonFCOn top of Cost of Living Hell which the mjg59_s of the world gave us, we're sick and fucking tired of people's "preferred pronouns" and worrying about if we're being unfair to felons.Jun 21 01:36
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schestowitz_TRthis isn't about techJun 21 01:37
DaemonFCBut I think Fox News really had to scrape the bottom of the bucket the other day to put someone on a pedestal when they did that story about Kraken.Jun 21 01:37
schestowitz_TRback on topic.Jun 21 01:37
DaemonFCUnfortunately, the rest of the companies have gone woke and maybe there aren't any examples of CEOs that just want things to be normal in the workplace.Jun 21 01:37
techrights-news"This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be talking about IDE monopolization is it going to be an issue in the future?" VS Code = proprietary spyware controlled by an anti-Linux company. Boycott it. https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-283/Jun 21 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-283: The State of IDEs: VSCode or BS-Code? - Destination Linux - TuxDigitalJun 21 01:38
DaemonFCI'm so glad I don't have to deal with those idiots Mandy works with. They just fired 4 more of them the other day for having group sex in the family bathroom.Jun 21 01:38
DaemonFCFour adults and none of them thought to lock the door.Jun 21 01:38
DaemonFCThen there's another one who is on workman's comp while posting pictures of herself having a ball on vacation.Jun 21 01:39
DaemonFCOn top of all of the ones who are just lazy as sin and stealing from the company.Jun 21 01:39
DaemonFCOf course they all want $20 an hour. It's like that everywhere now.Jun 21 01:40
DaemonFCThese are the people who want $20 and a union.Jun 21 01:40
techrights-newsAmnesty International & Debian Day suicides comparison http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166091#comment-34076Jun 21 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PsyOps 007: Paul Tagliamonte wanted Debian Press Team to have license to kill | Tux MachinesJun 21 01:40
DaemonFCI wonder if Richard Stallman has a position on that.Jun 21 01:41
DaemonFCMaybe they'd have more job security if they didn't call off all the time because they were hungover, steal, have group sex in the bathroom, and worked.Jun 21 01:41
DaemonFCIt's all of the fuckoffs that are the reason nobody gets a good deal on their labor.Jun 21 01:42
DaemonFCWalmart is like any other company. They have to tolerate so much of this to avoid EEOC investigations that everyone has to suffer, and it becomes a welfare program for the worst.Jun 21 01:43
mjg59_schestowitz_TR: what the actual fuckJun 21 01:45
mjg59_schestowitz_TR: Why are you linking to something that contains actual lies about someone's death?Jun 21 01:45
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mjg59_schestowitz_TR: Frans died in 2010. The mail Daniel is referring to was sent in 2007.Jun 21 01:51
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mjg59_schestowitz_TR: Daniel Pocock simply lies about things. He is not credible. And yet you continue linking to his poisonous claims.Jun 21 01:52
techrights-newsGemini Turning Three and Why It’ll Probably Reach and Exceed Ten (Decade) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/Jun 21 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Turning Three and Why It’ll Probably Reach and Exceed Ten (Decade) | TechrightsJun 21 01:55
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schestowitz_TRhttps://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/raheem-sterling-best-of-2122-63791339Jun 21 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Raheem Sterling: 2021/22 season highlightsJun 21 01:59
schestowitz_TRDRM :/Jun 21 01:59
schestowitz_TRFirefox pushing DRM, tooJun 21 02:00
techrights-newsNo new "Linux" story in 6 days already. You know ZDNet is perishing... http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022Jun 21 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsJun 21 02:06
techrights-newsPeople "collecting" fake 'friends' in social control media to compensate for a lack of real, trusted, real-life/IRL friends is understandable. Kids do the same thing with imaginary friends. Social control media is infantile.Jun 21 02:08
AdmFubarhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-daughter-files-to-ditch-his-last-nameJun 21 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Elon Musk’s Daughter Files to Ditch His Last NameJun 21 02:21
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D619.jpgJun 21 02:21
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D268.jpgJun 21 02:22
schestowitz_TRwhose name?Jun 21 02:22
schestowitz_TRhis? hers?Jun 21 02:22
schestowitz_TRthis headline is poorly writtenJun 21 02:23
MinceRElon Musk's Daughter Files to Rename "Elon Musk" to "Elon"Jun 21 02:25
schestowitz_TRMaskJun 21 02:25
MinceR"Somebody stop me!"Jun 21 02:27
schestowitz_TRhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgMJun 21 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (Official Video) - InvidiousJun 21 02:27
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techrights-newsDon’t be Grumpy About Alternatives to the World Wide Web | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/Jun 21 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t be Grumpy About Alternatives to the World Wide Web | TechrightsJun 21 02:33
schestowitz_TR>> "He is not credible. And yet you continue linking to his poisonous claims."Jun 21 02:34
schestowitz_TRa. I did not know we have our own URL kkkop in IRCJun 21 02:34
schestowitz_TRb. the Internet tested accusations and found that on ALL grounds the right of speech was thereJun 21 02:34
schestowitz_TRc. it's not unreasona\ble to allow dissenting viewsJun 21 02:35
*schestowitz_TR back to workJun 21 02:35
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techrights-news"Social" "justice' "warriors": we're all about rights, except the right of free expressionJun 21 02:36
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mjg59_schestowitz_TR: Uh when was the last time you linked to Swapnil without including a snide commentJun 21 02:38
schestowitz_TRI LINK to him Jun 21 02:39
schestowitz_TRthat's refuting the poointJun 21 02:39
schestowitz_TRI did not say censor links to himJun 21 02:39
mjg59_Yeah but you link while passing judgementJun 21 02:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 20, 2022Jun 21 02:39
schestowitz_TRfreedom of expression = criticismJun 21 02:39
schestowitz_TRmaybe one day you will understand how freedom of speech worksJun 21 02:39
mjg59_While Pocock continues to lie about free software contributors, but you link to him without any criticismJun 21 02:39
schestowitz_TRyou are not making a pointJun 21 02:40
schestowitz_TRspamnil is worseJun 21 02:40
schestowitz_TRspamnil lies for moneyJun 21 02:40
schestowitz_TRthat's vastly worse than misguided opinionsJun 21 02:40
mjg59_Worse than someone who falsely claims that free software contributors drove someone to suicide?Jun 21 02:40
schestowitz_TRhe also helped crimesJun 21 02:40
schestowitz_TRlike vmware cover up abuesJun 21 02:40
techrights-news✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-20.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)Jun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TRmjg59_: there are many suicide storiues there, inc. MurdockJun 21 02:41
mjg59_Worse than someone who falsely claims that free software contributors are involved in human traficking?Jun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TRwho was driven to it by SFPFJun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TR*PDJun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TRthey pushed him over the edgeJun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TRmaybe you should moan about that police dept.Jun 21 02:41
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mjg59_Oh, I doJun 21 02:41
schestowitz_TRnot fight against people with a history of fighting for indiginous peopleJun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRlike Aboriginals Jun 21 02:42
mjg59_Do you believe Pocock's claims?Jun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRnot alwaysJun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRbut he should have his platformJun 21 02:42
mjg59_So why do you link to them without comment?Jun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRthat's free speechJun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRstop policing who is allowed to have linksJun 21 02:42
mjg59_How often do you link to me without criticism?Jun 21 02:42
schestowitz_TRand who can and cannot eb criticisedJun 21 02:42
mjg59_Should I not have my platform?Jun 21 02:42
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schestowitz_TRyou doJun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRand you use ours, tooJun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRI don't always link to you witrh criticismJun 21 02:43
mjg59_Will you publish my writings on techrights.org, like you published Daniel's?Jun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRin the past few years maybe 50%Jun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRmjg59_: if t is relevant, maybeJun 21 02:43
mjg59_Ok coolJun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRwe focus on stuff like software patentsJun 21 02:43
schestowitz_TRnot fake securityJun 21 02:43
mjg59_Uh when did Daniel ever write about software patents?Jun 21 02:44
schestowitz_TRhe writes a lot about WIPOJun 21 02:44
schestowitz_TRWIPO is a thugJun 21 02:44
schestowitz_TRcorrupt, bloodthirstyJun 21 02:44
mjg59_How many of his articles that you republished mentioned WIPO?Jun 21 02:44
schestowitz_TRthose are recentJun 21 02:45
schestowitz_TRanyway, it is an ongoing caseJun 21 02:45
schestowitz_TRWIPO is trying to repair its imageJun 21 02:45
mjg59_Ok but you republished lots of things he wrote that said nothing about WIPOJun 21 02:45
mjg59_So it's not just that you concentrate on software patentsJun 21 02:46
schestowitz_TRyou hardly even writeJun 21 02:46
schestowitz_TRbeen like a monthJun 21 02:46
schestowitz_TRmust be very busy at work... and IRCJun 21 02:46
mjg59_Yeah I was on holidayJun 21 02:46
mjg59_My dad's 70thJun 21 02:46
techrights-newsLinux Foundation as a front for fiscal predators https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-finops-foundation-announces-fidelity-investments-as-a-premier-member-301571166.htmlJun 21 02:48
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techrights-newsICBM is a proprietary software pusher. This means Red Hat too will increasingly abandon any spirit of "openness" (look what happened to CentOS and Fedora already) https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1770480/ibm-transforms-business-operations-with-the-rise-with-sap-solution-in-expanded-partnership-with-sapJun 21 02:49
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techrights-news"If it surges during summertime (worse summer than 2020 and 2021), imagine what will happen in winter" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/Jun 21 02:51
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techrights-newsWith the World Wide Web going in the wrong direction we need an alternative that focuses on actual pages; Gemini is, at the moment, probably the most viable alternative to the World Wide Web http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/Jun 21 02:52
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techrights-newsThe World Wide Web was preceded by several similar hypertext systems, some of which technically superior to it; now that the world’s Bloated Web (formerly World Wide Web) gravitates towards proprietary browsers and is basically becoming like Adobe’s Flash it makes more sense to embrace Gemini for textual material that’s safe to access http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/Jun 21 02:52
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techrights-newsCOVID-19 isn't finished. Government's empathy for human beings and care for human life is finished. Technically and legally it has been finished for decades, but now it seems worse than ever. Look at the lack of effort to STOP the Ukraine war.Jun 21 02:54
techrights-newsNATO wants to END the Ukraine war like Pfizer wants to put a permanent stop to COVID-19.Jun 21 02:55
techrights-newsPatents related to COVID-19 have already killed millions. With the WTO deal it's clear they want to kill millions more. Then they shed crocodile tears about loss of lives. What bothers them most is the MERE PROSPECT of loss of PATENTS (monopolies).Jun 21 02:56
techrights-newsThe best way to object to or protest the current heist (piggybacking pandemic and war, among other things) is to limit buying to a bare minimum. Let circulation of money sink to all-time lows...Jun 21 02:57
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techrights-newsMedia is still (even this week) using the queen's son, who isn't even the heir, to distract from far worse culprits, who literally worked to enable and to liberate Jeffrey Epstein https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.htmlJun 21 02:59
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techrights-newsThe media is digging its own graves by covering up for high-profile criminals and bagging their money. This is one way the 'powerful' people kill journalism, which they never liked anyway...Jun 21 03:01
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techrights-newsJournalism isn't dying. It is being assassinated.Jun 21 03:02
techrights-news"container security" = adding more complexity, praying this will somehow enhance security rather than add to the attack surface https://www.suse.com/c/visibility-and-consistency-are-essential-for-container-security/Jun 21 03:03
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mjg59_Containers literally reduce attack surface?Jun 21 03:05
techrights-newsTwitter will languish away while "pedo guy" Musk (who does NOT value free speech!) does to it what Icagn and Microsoft did to Yahoo! Twitter is already dead, but just informally...Jun 21 03:05
schestowitz_TRyou can escape containersJun 21 03:05
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schestowitz_TRwhat are your credentials in security?Jun 21 03:09
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schestowitz_TRyou're like Tony Campinos talking about patentsJun 21 03:10
techrights-newsGNU/Linux at ~5% share https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202206Jun 21 03:10
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mjg59_schestowitz_TR: I teach security at Berkeley?Jun 21 03:11
mjg59_I dunno, what credentials do you wantJun 21 03:11
schestowitz_TR Tony Campino = a bunch of corrupt crooks made me EPO president, hence I'm patent expertJun 21 03:11
schestowitz_TRmjg59_:  did you study CS?Jun 21 03:11
mjg59_NoJun 21 03:11
schestowitz_TRdid you study network security?Jun 21 03:11
mjg59_Did you study IP law?Jun 21 03:11
schestowitz_TRwhat are the creds?Jun 21 03:11
schestowitz_TRwe're talking about you nowJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRnot meJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRthere's no "IP law"Jun 21 03:12
mjg59_Right just wondering what creds you have to judge theEPOJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRyou answered my questionJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRwith a non-answerJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRyou are a posertJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TR*poserJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRlike Bully de BlancJun 21 03:12
schestowitz_TRusing one job as crtedential for the nextJun 21 03:13
mjg59_I've worked in security for a decade, I'm trusted by other people in the fieldJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRwithout underlying seminal knowledgeJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRor anything of relevantJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRuseJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRsame as EPO managementJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRmany people who do not even know what patents arJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TReimprovisingJun 21 03:13
mjg59_Do you think the only way to learn things is to go to university?Jun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRor Linux [sic] FoundationJun 21 03:13
mjg59_Do you think free software requires a CS degree?Jun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRwhere almost no manager understands Linux, let alone uses itJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRbblJun 21 03:13
mjg59_CowardJun 21 03:13
schestowitz_TRdon't be too offendedJun 21 03:16
schestowitz_TRyou are part of a SYSTEMIC problemJun 21 03:16
schestowitz_TRyou are part of a SYSTEMIC problemJun 21 03:16
schestowitz_TRit's not just youJun 21 03:16
mjg59_One where I'm working in a field that I don't have a degree in?Jun 21 03:16
mjg59_How much code do you have in Linux, Roy?Jun 21 03:16
schestowitz_TRI am not a KERNEL hackerJun 21 03:16
mjg59_Ok! But I am a kernel hacker.Jun 21 03:17
schestowitz_TRI'm a programmer/sysadminJun 21 03:17
schestowitz_TRm1k3: noJun 21 03:17
schestowitz_TRyou WEREJun 21 03:17
mjg59_Oh, I still write kernel codeJun 21 03:17
m1k3Huh?Jun 21 03:17
mjg59_But what were my credentials for that?Jun 21 03:17
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schestowitz_TRm1k3: wrong autocomplete, sorryJun 21 03:17
mjg59_My last computing qualification was an RSA stage I in Computer Literacy and Information TechnologyJun 21 03:18
mjg59_I got a distinction!Jun 21 03:18
schestowitz_TRACPI is not securityJun 21 03:18
mjg59_It says I can use a word processor, a spreadsheet and a databaseJun 21 03:18
matey My last computing qualification was an RSA stage I in Computer Literacy <- this has to be about teachingJun 21 03:18
schestowitz_TR"secure" boot is not securityJun 21 03:18
mjg59_Well sure but what were my credentials for ACPIJun 21 03:18
mateyeven i would assume mjg doesnt need "computer literacy"Jun 21 03:18
mateythat would be sillyJun 21 03:18
mjg59_Roy's complaining that having a PhD in genetics means I'm not qualified to work in securityJun 21 03:19
mjg59_But seems ok with me having worked full-time on kernel development before thatJun 21 03:19
matey Roy's complaining that having a PhD in genetics means I'm not qualified to work in security <- heheheJun 21 03:19
mateymark my words, sometimes hes sillier than youJun 21 03:19
mjg59_Which I'm equally unqualified on, by this argumentJun 21 03:19
mateyyou teach computer literacy now?Jun 21 03:19
mjg59_Nah, I teach securityJun 21 03:20
mjg59_Got an award for it!Jun 21 03:20
m1k3mjg59_, I haven't been around here long and don't understand the dynamics here...but I'm curious why you hang around here when you don't feel respected? Are you expecting something? Jun 21 03:20
mateywouldnt be your firstJun 21 03:20
mateyI'm curious why you hang around here when you don't feel respected? <- oh hell, even i can understand thatJun 21 03:20
mateyits a "long story"Jun 21 03:20
mjg59_m1k3: Because I care about free software and there's a bunch of people here who care about free software but who I disagree with, and I want to understand that disagreementJun 21 03:20
schestowitz_TRnoJun 21 03:21
mjg59_No point in only spending time in places where everyone agrees with meJun 21 03:21
schestowitz_TRyou want to censor people you do not agree withJun 21 03:21
schestowitz_TRthat's how you deal with conflicting viewsJun 21 03:21
schestowitz_TR(it's also how team systemd deals with it)Jun 21 03:22
mateythis is an oversimplificationJun 21 03:23
mateyits true to a degreeJun 21 03:23
m1k3mjg59_, No offense, but if you ever want to understand disagreements, that will never happen if you become defensive or result to insults. Jun 21 03:24
mateysystemd uses every trick in the book-- some more than othersJun 21 03:25
mateyi mean Jun 21 03:25
mateyibm,Jun 21 03:25
mateyibm...Jun 21 03:25
mateyred hat..Jun 21 03:25
mateyred hat...Jun 21 03:25
techrights-newsLaptops/desktops on Turkey? GNU/Linux measured at 10% this past spring https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/turkey/#monthly-200901-202206 and if you count mobile too, Windows is at 10%Jun 21 03:25
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m1k3resort*Jun 21 03:25
mateycensorship is only one tool in the devils toolchestJun 21 03:25
m1k3What?Jun 21 03:26
fuzzyGNU GCC... as far as the "disagreement" was concernedJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRthere are different censorshiop methodsJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRinc. self-censorship inducementsJun 21 03:26
mateyoh you can say that againJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRthreatsJun 21 03:26
fuzzywhat is this... GNU... a dump yard for corporate interests?Jun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRmobbingJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRdeplatformingJun 21 03:26
mateywhat is this... GNU... a dump yard for corporate intere <- i mean if you fail to defend it, then yesJun 21 03:26
mateyand they failed to defend it... so yesJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRbtw, johns isn't too keen on free speechJun 21 03:26
schestowitz_TRhe's not formally in fsf nowJun 21 03:26
mateymobbing <- deplatforming <- lets not forget bullshittingJun 21 03:27
fuzzyno offense towards mjg59_, neither personal nor based on technical meritsJun 21 03:27
fuzzynonetheless, i consider GCC damaged beyond repairJun 21 03:27
mateyhe's not formally in fsf now <- well to be faiJun 21 03:27
mateyfairJun 21 03:27
mateythere is no fsfJun 21 03:27
matey <fuzzy> nonetheless, i consider GCC damaged beyond repair <- maybeJun 21 03:27
mateyits bleakJun 21 03:27
mateybut its also relativeJun 21 03:27
schestowitz_TRfsf is thereJun 21 03:27
schestowitz_TRbut it does not fight hardJun 21 03:27
mateys/hard/at all/Jun 21 03:28
schestowitz_TRtoo worried about how some circles might reactJun 21 03:28
mateyoh fuck itJun 21 03:28
mateys/hard//Jun 21 03:28
schestowitz_TRnow unable to be a revotionary forceJun 21 03:28
schestowitz_TRwhich is what the coup plotters wantedJun 21 03:28
mateys/revolutionary//Jun 21 03:28
schestowitz_TRso they can carry on writing proprietary crap with back doorsJun 21 03:28
schestowitz_TRand fsf will star hushJun 21 03:28
mateyits a non-force, non-revolutionary, non-organisationJun 21 03:28
mateyto wit: (this is tongue in cheek)Jun 21 03:28
mateyhttp://www.nongnu.org/Jun 21 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.nongnu.org | Welcome [Savannah]Jun 21 03:29
schestowitz_TRstayJun 21 03:29
schestowitz_TRhttp://fsf.org/blogJun 21 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blog )Jun 21 03:29
mateyTHIS IS an EX-PARROT!Jun 21 03:29
mateyhttp://fsf.org/blog <- oh, good! free water bottles!Jun 21 03:29
mateyonly $100Jun 21 03:30
mateybut free as in free-dumbJun 21 03:30
schestowitz_TR"by Zoë Kooyman — Published on Oct 26, 2020 08:21 PM"Jun 21 03:30
mateynow with extra dumb at no extra chargeJun 21 03:30
schestowitz_TR2 years ago https://www.fsf.org/resources/videosJun 21 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Videos — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareJun 21 03:30
mateyOct 26, 2020 <- hahaJun 21 03:30
matey/me throws eggs at cambridgeJun 21 03:30
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=wWqU1ynYSrMJun 21 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Princess Bride! Queen of Garbage! - InvidiousJun 21 03:31
matey<schestowitz_TR> now unable to be a revotionary force <schestowitz_TR> which is what the coup plotters wanted <- its what they gotJun 21 03:33
mateywe can twist reality into a pretty pictureJun 21 03:33
mateyand bullshit people into thinking the coup was unsuccessfulJun 21 03:33
mateyobviously roy never say THEY LIVEJun 21 03:33
mateysawJun 21 03:33
schestowitz_TRthey already did this in 2007 ishJun 21 03:34
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_LiveJun 21 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | They Live - WikipediaJun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRafter "bad vista"Jun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRafter that the FSF did "7 sins"Jun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRand then pretty much nothing about WindowsJun 21 03:34
mateyyoure downplaying againJun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRbecause some members said it was "negative"Jun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRhere's one reason to dislike copsJun 21 03:34
schestowitz_TRthey do "negative" thingsJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRthey disrupt crimesJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRthey arrest peopleJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRso negativeJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRMicrosoft does crimesJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRbut speaking about it in a Web page is "negative"Jun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRwe should just stay out of the wayJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRand let Acosta et al deal with the crimesJun 21 03:35
mateyits like a ball pit, but with straws instead of ballsJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRit's not like Microsoft can pull strings with authoritiesJun 21 03:35
schestowitz_TRtrust the system ;-)Jun 21 03:36
mateyfull of countless colourful strawsJun 21 03:36
mateyyes youre very avant gardeJun 21 03:36
mjg59_m1k3: Oh, it's not Roy that I'm trying to understandJun 21 03:36
mateysomeday when they can fully appreciate it theyll say you were ahead of your timeJun 21 03:36
schestowitz_TR2009 http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/Jun 21 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | TechrightsJun 21 03:36
m1k3Techrights "after dark" is pretty intenseJun 21 03:36
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/Jun 21 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza “is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community,” Says Richard Stallman | TechrightsJun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRhe and I both get "flak" for merely stating a factJun 21 03:37
mateypractice runsJun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRwhich was proven more true laterJun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRhe joined codeplexJun 21 03:37
mjg59_m1k3: It's the other people here who are genuinely invested in free softwareJun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRand later MicrosoftJun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRhe literally worked for criminalsJun 21 03:37
mateym1k3: It's the other people here who are genuinely invested in free software <- :)Jun 21 03:37
schestowitz_TRfor personal gain (money)Jun 21 03:37
mateyyou know the funny thing isJun 21 03:37
mateystating something thats factual has nothing to do with who you areJun 21 03:37
mateyits purely about whats being saidJun 21 03:38
mateycontext is everything of courseJun 21 03:38
mateybut sometimes things seem so obviousJun 21 03:38
mjg59_matey: I do learn some useful things from stuff Roy says, I just don't feel that he's someone I need to understandJun 21 03:38
mateyand yet, some things are simply factualJun 21 03:38
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.osnews.com/story/22225/rms-de-icaza-traitor-to-free-software-community/Jun 21 03:38
mateyI just don't feel that he's someone I need to understand <- even if you needed toJun 21 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RMS: De Icaza Traitor to Free Software Community – OSnewsJun 21 03:38
schestowitz_TRsee commentsJun 21 03:38
mateyits really not rocket scienceJun 21 03:38
mateyroy and i have agreed on a number of thingsJun 21 03:39
mjg59_matey: I'm way more curious about people like you, and I've learned a lot from being here as a resultJun 21 03:39
mateybut for me, facts are dataJun 21 03:39
mateyand for some people, facts are... Jun 21 03:39
mateywell, propsJun 21 03:39
mateyfor setting a stageJun 21 03:39
mateyfor god knows whatJun 21 03:39
mjg59_Like, it's super obvious that there's no way to build a broad consortium of free software people with corporate backingJun 21 03:39
mateymatey: I'm way more curious about people like you <- the funny thing isJun 21 03:40
mateyi say what i meanJun 21 03:40
mjg59_Which isn't really a surprise! But it's good to knowJun 21 03:40
mateyi meanJun 21 03:40
mjg59_So we need to ensure that any future organisations aren't beholden to corporate sponsorshipJun 21 03:40
mateywe need to ensure that any future organisations aren't beholden to corporate sponsorship <- that of course is trueJun 21 03:40
mateybut im only willing to do certain things to those endsJun 21 03:40
mateyin other words, that matters but its obviously not the only thing that mattersJun 21 03:41
mateythere are some things im not willing to throw outJun 21 03:41
mateybut if i thought it was needed to throw out those things to see a future without corporate control...Jun 21 03:41
mateyi clearly do notJun 21 03:41
mateyat any rate, at least youre coherentJun 21 03:42
mateyi meanJun 21 03:42
mateyits not just an endless slapping together of... whateverJun 21 03:42
mjg59_I try to be consistentJun 21 03:42
mateytheres a path your arguments follow, at leastJun 21 03:42
mjg59_I don't always live up to my standards, butJun 21 03:42
mateyconsistency isnt the greatest virtue there isJun 21 03:42
mateybut coherence is a plusJun 21 03:42
mjg59_Like I said, I benefit from getting better understanding of the root causes of our disagreementJun 21 03:42
techrights-news"As the title of the book suggests, it questions just how much good the wealthy and large corporations actually intend to do with their rather public acts of philanthropy" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:43
mateyand theyre at least relatedJun 21 03:43
mjg59_Even if that doesn't make me agree, it helps me understandJun 21 03:43
techrights-news"It gives several examples through interviews with people who were in university in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, and who sipped the kool aid. They wound up working for big name investment firms under the impression that they would in fact make a huge, positive impact on the world" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:43
mateyi mean the weakness of consistency is that sometimes things prove to be wrongJun 21 03:43
mateyi certainly dont have to explain that to youJun 21 03:44
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mateybut its what i meanJun 21 03:44
mateycoherence isnt worried about thatJun 21 03:44
techrights-news"They’re the sort that try to squeeze every last drop of productivity from their day to put toward the job, and that’s on top of working crazy hours. Worse, it seems that there are a lot more of these people than the ones that leave" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:44
mateyit moves past mistakes and still tries to stay true to context, even when some things prove wrongJun 21 03:44
techrights-news"they’re so distracted by the tasks they are assigned that they don’t have time to notice just how little impact on the world they are having. They would probably be horrified if they realized that many of them are likely causing more harm than good in the long run." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:44
mateycall it a "higher consistency"Jun 21 03:45
mateybut not for convenience, only for-- Jun 21 03:45
mateyits like scienceJun 21 03:45
techrights-news"One of the big arguments being put forward is that these corporations and wealthy people are creating these projects that claim to want to make the world better so that they can control them. This way they can point the altruistic people working under them in one direction." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:45
mateywe ditch luminiferous aetherJun 21 03:45
mateybut we dont throw out the whole universeJun 21 03:45
mateywe learn from mistakes and move forward, refining the pictureJun 21 03:45
techrights-newsltruist-capture.gmiJun 21 03:45
mateybut theres a lot of coherence in science, it tries to make things as objective and universal as possibleJun 21 03:46
mateywithin reasonJun 21 03:46
mjg59_Obviously my understanding of free software is influenced by having spent a lot of time contributing to it from within a corporate contextJun 21 03:46
mateyunfortunatelyJun 21 03:46
techrights-news"all of this is basically altruist capture. Just as corporations have been involved with regulatory capture for years, effectively removing the teeth from regulators so that large businesses can do as they please, they are gobbling up young, intelligent, motivated people, and saddling them with a ton of corporate busy work so that they don’t even have the opportunity to do anything that would threaten corporate interests"Jun 21 03:46
mjg59_And maybe my opinions about the benefits of that are more broad than they should be as a resultJun 21 03:46
mateyat least youre not afraid to be critical of authority figuresJun 21 03:46
mateyim not saying thats worked out for the bestJun 21 03:47
techrights-news"If they really wanted to fix the world, stopping that sort of nonsense would be a good start, and many of these people have the skills to potentially put a good size dent in those sort of things. The thing is that it would also put a good sized dent in the profits of the wealthy, and they are not going to have any of that"Jun 21 03:47
mateybut its a vital step either wayJun 21 03:47
mjg59_But my interest in free software being a place that's welcoming as opposed to one that focused on platforming poisonous people as long as they say the right things in a specific context isn't related to thatJun 21 03:47
mateyyeah i meanJun 21 03:47
mateyive tried to familiarise myself with that approachJun 21 03:47
mjg59_Pocock is anti-corporate, but he's also viciously attacked people who've spent a lot of their lives working on free softwareJun 21 03:48
mateyi dont think pocock is too useful at this pointJun 21 03:48
mateybut i think he was at one point-- whether incidentally or by natureJun 21 03:48
mateyhe played a roleJun 21 03:48
mateyi notice his mailing list is defunctJun 21 03:48
mjg59_YeahJun 21 03:48
DaemonFC<schestowitz_TR> who was driven to it by SFPFJun 21 03:48
mateyand his website came from his mailing listJun 21 03:48
DaemonFCI was nearly driven to suicide by the police.Jun 21 03:48
DaemonFCNobody cared.Jun 21 03:48
mateyas surely as techrights comes from this irc (which is only half true, but significantly)Jun 21 03:49
DaemonFCThey took the side of a pedophile and an illegal immigrant that he met on Grindr.Jun 21 03:49
mateyif his mailing list is gone, i wonder if/when he will update his websiteJun 21 03:49
mateyhis website is a mixed bagJun 21 03:49
techrights-news"Thumbs up for Mozilla and KDE, mixed reaction to mobile Thunderbird and Microsoft, AI definitely isn’t sentient, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-182/Jun 21 03:49
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mateyfull of what i consider interesting information, some of which i believe to be trueJun 21 03:49
mateyand some hyperbole so over the top maybe godwin was right Jun 21 03:49
mateyi think pocock doesnt know what hes doing, but i think he triedJun 21 03:50
mateyas for his motivations, i think at least some of them were goodJun 21 03:50
mateyothers its up for debateJun 21 03:50
mjg59_I think he believes he's doing goodJun 21 03:50
mateyof note is the fact that most people willing to attack him arent people im sympathetic to in the first placeJun 21 03:51
matey I think he believes he's doing good <- yeah, me tooJun 21 03:51
mateythats a lower bar than people realiseJun 21 03:51
mjg59_And a bunch of things have happened that have resulted in him having an unfair view of a bunch of peopleJun 21 03:51
mateyand it applies to so much more than pocock!Jun 21 03:51
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mjg59_But that doesn't mean he's not hurting peopleJun 21 03:51
mateywell, pause for a momentJun 21 03:51
DaemonFCThe police drive a lot of people to suicide who don't deserve it.Jun 21 03:51
mateybecause here is something profound, and i wasnt the one who said itJun 21 03:51
mateybut i think most people will miss it, because most people doJun 21 03:51
techrights-newsGNOME Devs Mockup the Linux Image Viewer I’ve Been Dreaming Of • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166274Jun 21 03:51
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DaemonFCYou just don't hear about it a lot.Jun 21 03:51
schestowitz_TRtrueJun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TRpolice can ruin livesJun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TReven kids' livesJun 21 03:52
mateyb"I think he believes he's doing good"Jun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TRlike kids who send nudes to kid friendsJun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TRand the police makes it worseJun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TRby threatening to destroy their livesJun 21 03:52
DaemonFCYeah, the police come in and bust them for taking pictures of themselves.Jun 21 03:52
DaemonFCNab the other one for having the nudes.Jun 21 03:52
schestowitz_TRthat's one example of manyJun 21 03:52
mjg59_Spoiler I am never going to stan the copsJun 21 03:53
schestowitz_TRthe cops don't;  get proper trainingJun 21 03:53
DaemonFCAnd it's not some old pervert involved in it that goes to prison.Jun 21 03:53
mjg59_Basically every police force I've ever been subject to has been evilJun 21 03:53
DaemonFCThe cops don't want proper training.Jun 21 03:53
DaemonFCThey join up because it's unlimited power with a paycheck and a gun.Jun 21 03:54
DaemonFCThere's a certain psychology behind it, you know.Jun 21 03:54
mateythe police always serve the same masterJun 21 03:54
mateyonce you understand this, it doesnt matter who becomes a policeman/policewomanJun 21 03:54
DaemonFCToday I'm going to pull over a bunch of people who were harmlessly speeding a little and who didn't have any money and put them $300 in court debt that spirals out of control.Jun 21 03:55
mjg59_One literally collaborated with terrorists to murder peopleJun 21 03:55
techrights-news“People aren’t the problem. The problem is the platforms.” https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10393-lessons-of-social-media-from-bbssJun 21 03:55
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DaemonFCFollowed by ruining some guy's life due to fake reports from his girlfriend.Jun 21 03:55
mateyanyone here could join the policeJun 21 03:55
DaemonFCAnd maybe after lunch I'll shoot someone because I can make up any story I want and plant drugs on the corpse.Jun 21 03:55
mjg59_One was described in an official report as "Institutionally racist"Jun 21 03:55
mateyit wouldnt change a thingJun 21 03:55
mjg59_One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black peopleJun 21 03:55
mateyand if everyone joined the policeJun 21 03:55
mateyit wouldnt be the policeJun 21 03:56
DaemonFC<mjg59_> One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black peopleJun 21 03:56
matey One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black people <- police always serve the same masterJun 21 03:56
mateyits a known fact that master is racistJun 21 03:56
DaemonFCThe Chicago Police entered into a consent decree on Obama's way out.Jun 21 03:56
DaemonFCAnd Trump spent 4 years ignoring every violation of it.Jun 21 03:57
mateyits NOT hard to understand that police are institutionally racistJun 21 03:57
mateyits one of the most obvious things in the worldJun 21 03:57
mjg59_And one literally bombed the mayor's houseJun 21 03:57
mateyeven black cops are racistJun 21 03:57
mateyits insaneJun 21 03:57
DaemonFCThere's a lot of racist black people.Jun 21 03:57
mateydfc of course will say "if even black cops are racist that should tell you something!"Jun 21 03:58
DaemonFCThere's a lot of racist all kinds of people, and a lot of them get a free pass.Jun 21 03:58
mateyit does, but it doesnt tell me what he thinks it shouldJun 21 03:58
mateyhes not capable of zooming out and seeing the big pictureJun 21 03:58
mateyhe cherrypicks but doesnt know hes cherrypickingJun 21 03:58
mateythere IS a better explanationJun 21 03:58
mjg59_Dude still pretends he didn't sign me up to a bunch of spam listsJun 21 03:58
mateybut he settles for one he favoursJun 21 03:58
DaemonFCOh I'm not all that racist really. Jun 21 03:58
mateyi mean you were both youngerJun 21 03:58
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DaemonFCThe person I see stealing my catalytic converter is going to be just as shot as the next one.Jun 21 03:59
mateytoday such things are like federal crimesJun 21 03:59
mjg59_Yeah but all I did was say "Hey, you're wrong about the details of this thing"Jun 21 03:59
mateybut back in the day, that shit was just funnyJun 21 03:59
mateynow its like, terrorism or somethingJun 21 03:59
mateywell yeah, people on the internet...Jun 21 03:59
mjg59_Eh it took like hours to deal with that shitJun 21 03:59
mateyi mean im sure weve both had death threatsJun 21 03:59
mateyi know i haveJun 21 03:59
mateyi fucking hate lennart poettering, for so many thingsJun 21 03:59
mjg59_Thankfully most of the lists in question used the same broken software that added a custom header I could filter onJun 21 04:00
mateybut even if i headed an international crime syndicateJun 21 04:00
mateyi dont think id do more than prank himJun 21 04:00
mateyhe set my life off in a direction im not too unhappy aboutJun 21 04:00
DaemonFCI've done so much worse than that and freely admit to it. Why would I say I didn't do THAT if I did?Jun 21 04:00
mateyhe helped destroyed gnu/linux (imo) but he coudlnt have done it without LOTS of helpJun 21 04:00
mateyim not a fanJun 21 04:00
mjg59_DaemonFC: So a kid in Canada who'd never met you just coincidentally gave me your IP address?Jun 21 04:00
mateybut death threats are over the topJun 21 04:00
matey<mjg59_> Eh it took like hours to deal with that shit <- exactlyJun 21 04:01
DaemonFCLet's see, I got someone thrown out of the military under DADT for breaking up with me.Jun 21 04:01
mateyits like tp'ing your homeJun 21 04:01
mjg59_I meanJun 21 04:01
mjg59_I literally have the emails in questionJun 21 04:01
DaemonFCI mean, you get me mad enough and I'll figure something out and it'll be a lot better than some damned emails.Jun 21 04:01
mjg59_Maybe someone hacked you and used your computer to sign me upJun 21 04:01
mjg59_But that doesn't seem likelyJun 21 04:01
DaemonFCYou know a lot of people have said I was wrong about something, and if I really am wrong, I'm just as happy to be wrong.Jun 21 04:02
mjg59_Don't really know what to say other than that someone who'd never met you and who I hadn't mentioned your name to gave me the same IP address you were using to join IRC at the timeJun 21 04:03
mateymjg: if you know he did itJun 21 04:03
mateyand its pretty obviousJun 21 04:03
mateyand you fixed it in hoursJun 21 04:03
DaemonFCThe only reason you knew the IP address was because I was on IRC that was logged and displayed in a public server.Jun 21 04:03
mateywhy try so hard to get him to admit it?Jun 21 04:04
mjg59_DaemonFC: No, I have an email from the kid in Canada with your IP address in itJun 21 04:04
mjg59_matey: Eh some vague desire for closureJun 21 04:04
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mateyi mean some people just double down until theyre literally deadJun 21 04:04
DaemonFCOkay, and if he saw the same log you did, he'd know it too.Jun 21 04:04
mjg59_Yeah it's not really rationalJun 21 04:04
mateyive dealt with people who took such bullshit to the graveJun 21 04:04
mateyoh, people arent rationalJun 21 04:04
mateyi mean rational is NICE but its not commonJun 21 04:04
mjg59_DaemonFC: Uh he wasn't an Ubuntu userJun 21 04:04
mjg59_He was some kid running a Quake server who IRCed with the people who set up SpamzaJun 21 04:05
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DaemonFCYou remind me of Steve Gibson.Jun 21 04:05
mateyi mean, you know what happenedJun 21 04:05
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DaemonFCHave I ever told you that?Jun 21 04:05
mateythats all the closure you needJun 21 04:05
mateyyou can find people who can tell the obviousJun 21 04:05
mjg59_matey: Yeah I guess it's just frustrating having someone repeatedly deny itJun 21 04:05
mateyoh, well yeaJun 21 04:05
DaemonFCSet up an entire website to complain that he was a security expert who got DDoSed by a 13 year old in Minnesota or something.Jun 21 04:05
mjg59_But you're right that it's clearly never happeningJun 21 04:05
mateyi mean gaslighting is a bitchJun 21 04:05
mateyplusJun 21 04:06
mateyand im not saying this to defend anyone in particularJun 21 04:07
mateybut theres always a snowballs chance in hell he actually didnt do itJun 21 04:07
mateysometimes when the evidence is overwhelmingJun 21 04:07
mateyi mean, every day you put your feet on the floorJun 21 04:07
mateybecause youre more or less certain its thereJun 21 04:07
mateyits not a theory you really need to test every morningJun 21 04:07
mateybut i suppose if one day its not like that, anyone would be surprised, right?Jun 21 04:07
mateystill it doesnt keep physicists awake at nightJun 21 04:08
DaemonFCIt all rather seems circumstantial.Jun 21 04:08
DaemonFCHighly speculative.Jun 21 04:08
mateybecause some things really are pretty obviousJun 21 04:08
DaemonFCI'd go as far as to say prejudicial even.Jun 21 04:08
mateymeaning you dont have to spend your whole life second guessing everything infiniatelyJun 21 04:09
mateyit wouldnt even be sane to do soJun 21 04:09
mateysometimes you can settle on the obvious and move on, at least until really exceptional evidence to the contrary comes alongJun 21 04:09
DaemonFCI'm just sitting here with the popcorn waiting for San Francisco to be ruined by the next dotcom bubble bursting.Jun 21 04:09
mjg59_A third party with no link to you gave me your IP addressJun 21 04:09
mjg59_That's literally not circumstantialJun 21 04:10
DaemonFCThese app companies are going bye bye soon.Jun 21 04:10
mateybut there seem to be exceptions to every ruleJun 21 04:10
DaemonFCThe only reason any of this went on so long is because of basically free money.Jun 21 04:10
DaemonFCEverything in the real world here is grinding to a halt. It was already there from when times were better, it's seen better days, and it's rotting away.Jun 21 04:10
DaemonFCLike my house my grandfather built.Jun 21 04:11
DaemonFCNobody has any money to keep these things going because the real economy died a long time ago.Jun 21 04:11
DaemonFCSo they just throw new paint on it every once in a while and let it fall apart. Live in it while they can.Jun 21 04:11
schestowitz_TR1970sJun 21 04:11
mjg59_Sigh this involves me actually digging out backupsJun 21 04:11
DaemonFC*the houseJun 21 04:12
mateymjg59_ <- if i were going to tell you what to doJun 21 04:12
DaemonFCschestowitz_TR, I'd put it more in the 1990s.Jun 21 04:12
mateyi have a completely different set of suggestions, so this isnt about thatJun 21 04:12
mateybut just as an ideaJun 21 04:12
DaemonFCThere was still plenty of real stuff happening until the mid 90s, early 2000s.Jun 21 04:12
mateygo somewhere, anywhere, to learn everything you can about cluster b personality disordersJun 21 04:12
schestowitz_TR90s was peak fantasyJun 21 04:13
schestowitz_TR2000 was first blowupJun 21 04:13
mateyfor two reasons: maybe threeJun 21 04:13
mateyfirst, youll understand Jun 21 04:13
matey90s was peak fantasy <- oh i dont knowJun 21 04:13
mateyfirst, youll understand the tech industry better than you ever haveJun 21 04:13
mjg59_matey: Ha for various reasons I actually have a bunch of experience in that respectJun 21 04:13
mateysecond, it will bring you complete peace about this spam thingJun 21 04:13
matey Ha for various reasons I actually have a bunch of experience <- i dont doubt it, this is about application.Jun 21 04:13
DaemonFCNobody is having kids, the whole world is falling apart. Yosemite just got washed away.Jun 21 04:14
DaemonFC5 states are about to have NO water.Jun 21 04:14
mateyexperience can be helpful and misleading at the same timeJun 21 04:14
mjg59_matey: It's hard to get a good read of someone's personality just over the internetJun 21 04:14
DaemonFCAnd one mjg59_ is ranting about something that allegedly happened in 2008.Jun 21 04:14
mateytheory can help sort it all outJun 21 04:14
mateybooks, even youtube videos! can be VERY informativeJun 21 04:14
mjg59_Funny, I didn't say anything about 2008 hereJun 21 04:14
mateyshed light on all sorts of little details that YEARS of personal experience could missJun 21 04:14
mjg59_Sounds like you have some awareness of the situationJun 21 04:14
mateyeven if you saw them with your own eyesJun 21 04:14
matey It's hard to get a good read of someone's personality just over the internet <- yesJun 21 04:15
mateybut behaviour is easierJun 21 04:15
mateysometimesJun 21 04:15
DaemonFCErr Yellowstone, I meant. Tired.Jun 21 04:15
DaemonFCWell, Yosemite is fucked too.Jun 21 04:15
DaemonFCThey're logging old growth trees that have been there for hundreds of years so boomers can wipe their asses on them.Jun 21 04:15
mateyfor exampleJun 21 04:16
mateyonce you can prove that youre up against every sign of just... lyingJun 21 04:16
mateythe need to prove x is a lie mostly just falls awayJun 21 04:16
mjg59_DaemonFC: Anyway you did at the time talk about being in contact with the Spamza peopleJun 21 04:16
mateynot entirely... i mean, someone whos an alcoholic is always an alcoholicJun 21 04:16
mateybut they can also live without alcoholJun 21 04:16
mateyif you can prove within reason, even to yourselJun 21 04:17
mateythat somoene will always lieJun 21 04:17
DaemonFCI think I was trying to ask them what the hell was going on.Jun 21 04:17
mateythe thing theyre lying about DEFINITELY becomes less of an issueJun 21 04:17
mateyit goes from being a thing that niggles at you to something you can kind of laugh atJun 21 04:17
mateybecause you realise how silly people areJun 21 04:17
DaemonFCBut so many important things have happened since 2008 that I don't even remember the year 2008 that well.Jun 21 04:17
mateyyou also realise theyre just really fucked up andJun 21 04:18
mjg59_Urgh extracting half a terrabyte onto rotating mediaJun 21 04:18
mateyultimately theres very little revenge you could get that would ever be on par with them just being thenJun 21 04:18
mateyof courseJun 21 04:18
mateyyoull still want to prove it :)Jun 21 04:18
mateyonly real difference isJun 21 04:18
mateynow it wont matter much if you never do :)Jun 21 04:19
mjg59_In this case I'm just going to try to find this one email and then that's itJun 21 04:19
DaemonFC<schestowitz_TR> here's one reason to dislike copsJun 21 04:19
DaemonFC<schestowitz_TR> they do "negative" thingsJun 21 04:19
DaemonFC<schestowitz_TR> they disrupt crimesJun 21 04:19
mateyits unfortunate we are connected to an industry that is like 90% bullshittersJun 21 04:19
DaemonFCRelying on the state for "protection" is a mistake.Jun 21 04:20
mateysome because they like it, and several because they believe its a requirement Jun 21 04:20
matey(because it nearly is-- nearly)Jun 21 04:20
mjg59_When I die I'd like people to say that I was wrong but believed I was rightJun 21 04:20
DaemonFCBecause when the people who have a hit out on me show up at my front door step, it's not going to be the police they need to worry about.Jun 21 04:20
mateywell i already think you were wrong :)Jun 21 04:20
mateyits at least possible you believed you were rightJun 21 04:21
mjg59_Yeah it's really about whether I was just saying stuff I actually disagreed with for some sort of benefitJun 21 04:21
DaemonFCMARISOL took out a million dollar life insurance policy on my spouse (which I had to get canceled).Jun 21 04:21
DaemonFCTHe police did nothing, even though she did it from her iPhone, using her real IP address.Jun 21 04:21
mateyjust know thatJun 21 04:21
DaemonFCAnd even though that's a felony.Jun 21 04:21
mateywhen i say that narcissism is curable but it depends ENTIRELY on the determination of the narcissistJun 21 04:21
mateyand it almost never happens (though it is possible)Jun 21 04:22
mateyits NOT just a roundabout way of picking on youJun 21 04:22
mateyim talking about an industry hereJun 21 04:22
mateya  complete environment of utter fuckeryJun 21 04:22
DaemonFCThe "church" they're in is a terrorist group. If you tell Immigration Canada that church has a hit out on you, they'll give you a refugee visa so you don't have to go back to the Philippines.Jun 21 04:22
DaemonFCBut they've killed at least three people in Canada, and a few in the US.Jun 21 04:22
DaemonFCI have absolutely no intention to go out like that, so I conceal and carry.Jun 21 04:23
mateyi also think capitalism plays a large role in thisJun 21 04:23
mateybut i avoided anticapitalism for as long as i couldJun 21 04:23
mateyit was actually free software that made me believe libertarianism was a real possible thingJun 21 04:24
DaemonFCI'd like to have at least a fighting chance if they come for me.Jun 21 04:24
mateyand my brand of anticapitalism still leans sort of libertarianishJun 21 04:24
mateybut anti-corporateJun 21 04:24
mateywhen you have an infection, pus can form-- happens all the time, no big dealJun 21 04:24
mateyan abcess on the other hand, is a real problemJun 21 04:25
mateythis is a metaphor for corporationsJun 21 04:25
mateytheyre capitalist abcessesJun 21 04:25
mjg59_matey: Y'know this is interestingJun 21 04:25
mjg59_Free software was what convinced me libertarianism wasn't viableJun 21 04:25
mateyoh Jun 21 04:25
mateyme tooJun 21 04:25
mateyat first, they made me thinkJun 21 04:25
mateylook, this could workJun 21 04:26
DaemonFCI have logs of John discussing with other men how they wanted him to come over and rape their children in front of them.Jun 21 04:26
mateybut the events of 2018-present proved that wrong (imo) Jun 21 04:26
DaemonFCI'm sure the TSA found those interesting.Jun 21 04:26
mateyi wont forgive capitalism for what happenedJun 21 04:26
mjg59_My anti-corporatism is still of the socialist type, which I don't think is where you areJun 21 04:26
mateyoh you dont think im socialist?Jun 21 04:26
mateythats ok, but i find it funnyJun 21 04:26
mjg59_Oh! Honestly it wasn't entirely clearJun 21 04:26
fuzzyi think it is the consumerist/corporate interests, which destroy _technical_ qualities, of softwareJun 21 04:26
mjg59_I guess we've never really talked about the role of the state in any of thisJun 21 04:26
fuzzyhistorically, software and computers were designed for: SCIENTIFIC workJun 21 04:27
DaemonFCmjg59_, So your secret plan to defeat Capitalism is to write DRM for them?Jun 21 04:27
DaemonFCThat sounds like a really crappy plan to me.Jun 21 04:27
mjg59_I'd interpreted you as being both anti-corporate and anti-stateJun 21 04:27
mateyit always comes down to what you mean by socialism doesnt itJun 21 04:27
fuzzymeanwhile, GNU/FSF followed too far along what consumers/corproations wantJun 21 04:27
mjg59_My partner's an anarchist, so I'm used to disagreement on this topicJun 21 04:27
mateywhats your take on ubi?Jun 21 04:27
mateynot the most important question, more for funJun 21 04:28
mjg59_I'm conceptually in favour but suspect that most current tech-backed efforts nominally in favour of UBI are not good thingsJun 21 04:28
mateyof courseJun 21 04:28
mateyi think in the short run its a great ideaJun 21 04:28
fuzzyif i may, ubi is a political scam... if ubi doesn't pay rent, nor does it imply any "right to work"Jun 21 04:28
mateyi woudlnt opposse itJun 21 04:29
matey<fuzzy>  <- funny that you support "right to work"Jun 21 04:29
mateywhich is also a great ideaJun 21 04:29
fuzzyit's just, the bureaucratic apparatus, of the state, who had some responsibility, to plan and organize work/employmentJun 21 04:29
fuzzywith surrounding social legislation, are relieved, then, from any responsibilityJun 21 04:29
fuzzyUBI, eat or die, we don't care...Jun 21 04:29
mateymj59_ if we disagree on socialismJun 21 04:30
mateyits because you think socialism depends on the stateJun 21 04:30
mateywhich it SORT OF DOES, in the short tunJun 21 04:30
mateyrunJun 21 04:30
mateyand i dont think thats a problem Jun 21 04:30
mateyin the long run the state is irrelevantJun 21 04:30
mateyand in the short run its unavoidableJun 21 04:30
mateypeople trying to get rid of the state as the first step-- that will never workJun 21 04:30
mateyits like trying to take off training wheels before you can move your legsJun 21 04:31
mateywtf is that going to achieve?Jun 21 04:31
mateyif people make socialism workJun 21 04:31
mateythey wont have to worry about the stateJun 21 04:32
mateyit will have served its purposeJun 21 04:32
mjg59_Sorry to pause this the dog just threw up on the rugJun 21 04:33
mateythe dog just threw up on the rug <- they do thatJun 21 04:33
mjg59_The dog is bigger than me, so it's kind of an elaborate thing to deal withJun 21 04:43
mateyoh yeahJun 21 04:43
mateyeven small dogs can create incredible amounts of it, not unlike babiesJun 21 04:44
mateylending credence to the many-worlds hypothesis, because where else does all that shit come fromJun 21 04:44
mateyi know a dog (not mine) that thinks hes a goatJun 21 04:46
mateyand so he keeps eating things that needs surgically removedJun 21 04:46
mjg59_I managed to scoot them off the rug halfway through so it could have been worseJun 21 04:46
mjg59_And at least we have a pet vacuum for this purposeJun 21 04:46
mateytheres a good product idea, honestlyJun 21 04:46
mateymy second least favourite page on the gnu website https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.htmlJun 21 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationJun 21 04:48
mateythere are some good points of courseJun 21 04:48
mjg59_iRobot's entire advertising program for their new Roombas is that they can recognise pet waste before running into it and smearing it everywhereJun 21 04:48
mateymy issue with irobot of course is they make houseplans available to some internet-based entityJun 21 04:49
mateywhich for me is a dealbreakerJun 21 04:49
mateytheyre also non-freeJun 21 04:49
mateyother than these two things i think irobot is fucking cool shitJun 21 04:49
mateybut i wouldnt own oneJun 21 04:49
mateyi would expect everyone who works on self-driving cars to Jun 21 04:50
mateybecause theyre self-driving hooversJun 21 04:50
mateygranted if a car self-drove itself anything like a roombaJun 21 04:50
mateypeople would have already switched back to horse and buggiesJun 21 04:50
matey"yeah it shits everywhere but at least it knows where its going!"Jun 21 04:51
mjg59_Roombas are kind of like Teslas now - trying to solve everything with visionJun 21 04:51
mateysomehow thats worseJun 21 04:51
mjg59_Neatos use lidar instead, which is more like most other autonomus vehicle approachesJun 21 04:52
mateyi thought tesla used lidar tooJun 21 04:52
mjg59_NopeJun 21 04:52
mateythere you have itJun 21 04:52
mjg59_They used to have radar as well, but dropped it last year because of supply chain issuesJun 21 04:52
mateyoh okJun 21 04:52
mjg59_Elon's super anti-lidarJun 21 04:52
mjg59_His argument is that humans can drive without lidar, so what can't a carJun 21 04:53
mateyany particular reason?Jun 21 04:53
mjg59_And the obvious answer is that humans are better at this than a fairly low power embedded ARM with some custom logicJun 21 04:53
mjg59_Also, humans drive into things a lotJun 21 04:53
mjg59_To be fair Tesla's trying to solve a much harder problem than the rest of the industry and if they're successful then fair playJun 21 04:54
mjg59_But I don't think anyone who works on this stuff outside Tesla is optimistic (I should say that I don't have much insight into the actual autonomy stack on our products so this is not a super-informed opinion)Jun 21 04:55
mateyis the rest of the industry focusing more exclusively on "obstacle avoidance" or something?Jun 21 04:55
mjg59_Basically everyone else is video + radar + lidarJun 21 04:55
mjg59_Get as much information as possible and throw it into a much bigger computer than Tesla useJun 21 04:55
mateymmhmmJun 21 04:56
mjg59_Radar does make things harder - it's really hard to distinguish between stationary objects that are actually on the road and stationary objects that are around the road (like sign gantries)Jun 21 04:57
mjg59_If you use radar without using other information sources then you tend to end up ignoring stationary objects that suddenly appearJun 21 04:57
mateythat sounds badJun 21 04:57
mjg59_Like if there's a fire truck parked in a lane and the car in front of you pulls out to overtake itJun 21 04:57
mjg59_Which is a significant percentage of the Tesla autopilot crashesJun 21 04:57
DaemonFC<mjg59_> iRobot's entire advertising program for their new Roombas is that they can recognise pet waste before running into it and smearing it everywhereJun 21 04:58
mateybut what about others?Jun 21 04:58
DaemonFCThese things are still fucking stupid.Jun 21 04:58
mateya more significant percentage?Jun 21 04:58
mjg59_matey: Actually a hard question! Everyone else uses lidar as well, which in theory lets you distinguishJun 21 04:58
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mjg59_But the number of highway miles driven by Teslas is *way( higher than everyone elseJun 21 04:59
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mjg59_So I have a gut feeling, but I don't have numbers to substantiate itJun 21 04:59
mateyand you work for a related company butJun 21 04:59
mjg59_As far as I know, only collision we've had is someone blowing a stop sign and driving into one of our vehiclesJun 21 04:59
mateytheres no problem saying this about researchJun 21 04:59
mateyeven if it makes tesla sound better than your companyJun 21 04:59
mjg59_Like I said, Tesla's trying to solve a much harder problemJun 21 05:00
mjg59_Making cars behave like humansJun 21 05:00
mjg59_Except betterJun 21 05:00
mateyand thats-- i mean your company wouldnt be unhappy about you saying that?Jun 21 05:00
mateyis it just-- theyre more interested in the science than sheer competition, or hwatJun 21 05:01
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mateyits less interesting than the science part of it but im still curiousJun 21 05:01
mjg59_I don't think anyone in the industry disagrees with thatJun 21 05:01
DaemonFCI'd probably buy an electric Buick. At least that's a real company.Jun 21 05:01
matey/me nodsJun 21 05:01
DaemonFCIf there was anywhere to plug it in.Jun 21 05:01
mjg59_But I don't think many people in the industry think the problem that Tesla is trying to solve is something that can be solved with existing techJun 21 05:02
DaemonFCTesla will fail.Jun 21 05:02
mateyhaJun 21 05:02
DaemonFCIn 5 years, we will go "Oh yeah, Tesla. Remember that?".Jun 21 05:02
mjg59_Everyone else is trying to solve an easier problemJun 21 05:02
mateyi like solving easier problems, personallyJun 21 05:03
mjg59_Which is "How do we drive on a subset of roads with a lot more sensory information than humans have"Jun 21 05:03
mateypeople that can solve harder problems, thats cool tooJun 21 05:03
DaemonFCHow to make electric cars as a profitable company with years to get it right now that Tesla has worked out all the shitty alpha product bugs?Jun 21 05:03
mateyits very much my approach to look for easier routes to problem solving-- within reason of courseJun 21 05:03
DaemonFCIt's still a shitty beta project, but Tesla is a company that doesn't make profit.Jun 21 05:03
DaemonFCSo they cut corners and they're super sketchy about how they treat you if you get a total lemon.Jun 21 05:04
mateyoccasionally, easier is cheap or worthless. but a lot of times its just "work smarter, not harder"Jun 21 05:04
mjg59_I mean, "Worse is Better" is kind of how Unix wonJun 21 05:04
DaemonFCOne guy gave them $160,000, the battery was so defective that it couldn't get half the stated range, new, in good weather, so they said they'd take it back and refund his money.Jun 21 05:04
DaemonFCThat was two years ago.Jun 21 05:04
mateythats what they sayJun 21 05:04
DaemonFCThey're still taking payments out of his bank accoutn for a car he doesn't even have and stonewalling him about the "refund".Jun 21 05:04
mjg59_Shipping something that works and is easy to deal with is preferable to something that's conceptually better but compromised as a resultJun 21 05:05
mateyi dont know if waterfall gave us anything i prefer Jun 21 05:05
DaemonFCBesides, gasoline engines have gotten much more efficient.Jun 21 05:05
DaemonFCThere's people out there driving V8s with a SUV the size of a house that get better gas mileage than I do, and still whining about gas prices.Jun 21 05:06
mateyi wonder if "worse is better" will/does apply to hardware or notJun 21 05:06
mateyit doesnt with dell laptops at leastJun 21 05:06
DaemonFCOf course, it takes so much technology, that the reliability takes a dump.Jun 21 05:06
mjg59_In some waysJun 21 05:06
DaemonFCAnd you want rid of the car before the warranty expires.Jun 21 05:06
mateyfoomJun 21 05:06
DaemonFCSo there's a price to be paid for that "efficiency".Jun 21 05:06
mjg59_See how long x86 has been triumphantJun 21 05:07
mjg59_Nothing about the design is good, but a combination of factors conspired to outcompete everything else for decadesJun 21 05:07
mateyi think part of that is more about shady practices Jun 21 05:07
mjg59_It's good to see meaningful competition there nowJun 21 05:07
mateybut it obviously works, im using it nowJun 21 05:07
DaemonFCModern cars in general are all like $60,000 and even those fall apart.Jun 21 05:07
DaemonFCJust not as bad as their compliance cars do.Jun 21 05:07
mateyas with network effects, having such a consistent platform has advantagesJun 21 05:08
mateyand costsJun 21 05:08
mateythrow in what theyve done to stay relevant, and it can be ugly tooJun 21 05:08
mateymeaningful competition is the only hope imoJun 21 05:09
mateyim not in a hurry to scrap my x86 stuffJun 21 05:09
mateybut it would be niceJun 21 05:09
mateyi wasnt in a hurry to scrap linux but it made me very happy to do soJun 21 05:09
mjg59_Yeah I'll be glad to get off x86Jun 21 05:09
mateybefore i managed it i spent years talking about itJun 21 05:09
mjg59_Except right now Apple's really the only vendor who has something competitive in laptop/desktop spaceJun 21 05:10
mateybeing quite forward about the fact that i hadnt managed it yetJun 21 05:10
mjg59_And I do appreciate that Apple aren't utterly fucking over free software on their new hardware, but stillJun 21 05:10
mateyright now comes and goes very quicklyJun 21 05:10
mateyright now if i HAD TO buy a self driving carJun 21 05:10
mateyim sure it would be a teslaJun 21 05:10
mateywhich doesnt make me a fanJun 21 05:10
mateyAnd I do appreciate that Apple aren't utterly fucking over free software on their new hardware <- im sure theyll get to itJun 21 05:11
mjg59_Dunno if Tesla started complying with the GPL yetJun 21 05:11
mjg59_matey: They explicitly modified their firmware to make it easier to run LinuxJun 21 05:11
mjg59_I mean, they haven't documented anythingJun 21 05:11
mateyyeah but heres the thing about that seriouslyJun 21 05:11
mateypeople make gestures and peace offerings all the timeJun 21 05:11
mjg59_But they did ensure that their systems could run free softwareJun 21 05:11
mjg59_So it could be a lot worseJun 21 05:11
mateyits still one of the largest corporations in techJun 21 05:12
mateyand its going to act like thatJun 21 05:12
mjg59_Better than a lot of AndroidJun 21 05:12
mateytheres no loyalty to anything but profit in the long termJun 21 05:12
mateyoh android is shit on toastJun 21 05:12
mateyif you gave me $5000 to spend on androidJun 21 05:12
mateyi wouldnt botherJun 21 05:12
mateyit would only be $5000 of crapJun 21 05:12
mateyunless it got me a pinephone or somethingJun 21 05:13
mateythen i mightJun 21 05:13
matey They explicitly modified their firmware to make it easier to run Linux <- this is a good business moveJun 21 05:15
matey/me thinks back to when dell jumped on that bandwagon, and how that worked outJun 21 05:16
mateyits not exactly the same because historically dell is pushed around more by microsoft than apple isJun 21 05:16
mateybut i still think apples move is similar-- a business move, like it could be anything elseJun 21 05:17
mateytomorrow it wont mean anything, theyre not in the linux businessJun 21 05:17
mateytheyre in the apple businessJun 21 05:17
mateyibm bought red hat, and theyre still not in the red hat businessJun 21 05:18
mateytheyre in the ibm businessJun 21 05:18
mateyan investment shouldnt make people think they care about somethingJun 21 05:18
mateytheyre putting money where they think it will get them more moneyJun 21 05:19
mateyfor as long as that lasts, which is very often not longJun 21 05:19
mateypeople should think of investments like digging a wellJun 21 05:20
mateytheyll go there until it runs dry-- then they wontJun 21 05:21
mateypeople think "this means theyre going to care about the water table"Jun 21 05:21
mateyno, it means theyre going to take water out of the ground, thats allJun 21 05:21
mateythats the fullness of the committmentJun 21 05:21
mateypeople are wise to this, so companies now say "we are doing this because of a long-term interest in the sustainabilty of the water table"Jun 21 05:22
mateybut of course thats bullshitJun 21 05:22
mateyextraction isnt caringJun 21 05:23
mateybusiness is mostly about extractionJun 21 05:23
mateythe history of capitalism is that when the well runs dry, they go where they can dig new onesJun 21 05:24
mateysustainability costs too much in the short run. its at odds with their goalsJun 21 05:25
mateybut the short version is apple doesnt care about one goddamned thing in the whole worldJun 21 05:25
mateyit cant, it never willJun 21 05:25
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mateyit just extracts thingsJun 21 05:26
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mateyand it cares as much as hf/hcl cares about etching glassJun 21 05:27
mateyeven if you take the most caring person in the world behind the wheel of something like appleJun 21 05:29
mateyits a runaway trainJun 21 05:29
mateythey might be able to lessen the damage it does, while derailing the whole thingJun 21 05:29
mateythen someone takes the money and builds another runaway trainJun 21 05:29
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DaemonFC<mjg59_> Yeah I'll be glad to get off x86Jun 21 05:43
DaemonFCJust as soon as Microsoft tells you which other platform they need you to help ruin?Jun 21 05:44
mjg59_Y'know weirdly the extent to which I work with Microsoft is driven by what other people want to work, not by what Microsoft wantsJun 21 05:48
mateyit probably sounds like a square circleJun 21 05:49
mateybut id be more interested in not giving microsoft what they want, no matter what other people think they wantJun 21 05:49
mateyyou have to imagine what a world would be like without all these cultsJun 21 05:50
mateythen do things for that worldJun 21 05:50
mateyof course i realise that intermediate steps are also necessaryJun 21 05:50
mateyjust not all of themJun 21 05:50
mateytheres an infinite number of intermediate steps. if some arent ignored, it would take an infinite amount of time to traverse themJun 21 05:51
mateyif zeno were a douchebag, he would exploit thisJun 21 05:52
mateyothers doJun 21 05:52
mateytheres another practical example of zenos paradoxJun 21 05:53
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastline_paradoxJun 21 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Coastline paradox - WikipediaJun 21 05:54
mateyi like intermediate stepsJun 21 05:55
mateythe trick is knowing which ones to step on, and which ones to step overJun 21 05:55
mateytheres no way to get it right all the timeJun 21 05:56
mateyyou just have to get it right often enough that real progress doesnt take foreverJun 21 05:56
mateythe opposite problem is too many shortcutsJun 21 05:57
mateyalso leading to defeatJun 21 05:57
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mateypeople probably know this on some level so they all have their own methods of figuring out which steps are important and which ones are a costly waste of timeJun 21 05:58
mateyif you rank them, you see that some methods will never workJun 21 05:58
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mateysome have shown real promise but obviously havent gotten us thereJun 21 05:59
mateyyetJun 21 05:59
mateythe ones that will never work can be discardedJun 21 05:59
mateytheyre the ones promoted most heavily by parties who hope we never get there :)Jun 21 05:59
mateyand some people who promote them are innocents who get fooled by the approachJun 21 06:00
mateyi believed in open source more than a decade agoJun 21 06:00
mateyit was an innocent mistake unaware of the real nature of open sourceJun 21 06:00
mateyits still a terrible ideaJun 21 06:01
mateyone that will never workJun 21 06:01
mateyit has an infinite number of steps between here and user freedomJun 21 06:01
mateyreform isnt so bad Jun 21 06:02
mateyif enough people count on it, it goes nowhereJun 21 06:03
mateywe need more than reform, because for every step forward they have more than that to send us backJun 21 06:03
mateyi didnt study ee but i think the term "impedance mismatch" appliesJun 21 06:04
mateyso does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)Jun 21 06:04
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mateystallman had a revolutionary idea-- im not saying hes the only oneJun 21 06:08
mateythe fsf is reformist, and at this point so is stallman (im not sure he was ever more than a reformer)Jun 21 06:08
mateyoskar schindler was a very heroic reformerJun 21 06:09
mateyin a time of crisis, reformers can do a great deal of goodJun 21 06:09
mateyimagine relying on a bunch of oskar schindlers to end the war in a victoryJun 21 06:09
mateyno matter how good his deeds wereJun 21 06:09
mateythey wouldnt be enough to change the outcome-- only to save handfuls of peopleJun 21 06:10
mateyobviously this is no condemnation of his heroic effortsJun 21 06:10
mateyonly to say, if you want to change everythingJun 21 06:10
mateydoing it little by little wont get us there, there have to be leaps forwardJun 21 06:11
mateysettling for reform would be likeJun 21 06:11
mateythe vitriol i have for mike godwin is mostly tongue in cheek, but i do wish he would jump in a lakeJun 21 06:11
mateyat any rate, it would take more schindlers than we will ever have to change the whole thingJun 21 06:12
mateywe simply need something bigger than that alone-- if its the most a person can do, thats greatJun 21 06:13
mateyits not a strategy thats going to win Jun 21 06:13
mateyopen source kept taking what we could do and cutting it in halfJun 21 06:13
mateyid rather eat stir fry than choke trying to eat a giant steak wholeJun 21 06:14
mateybut i dont need every meal i consumer turned into nano-particle pablumJun 21 06:14
mateyopen source keeps making free software infantile and corporateJun 21 06:14
mateyits a counterrevolutionJun 21 06:15
mateybaby stepping right off a cliffJun 21 06:15
mateyand its taken over everythingJun 21 06:15
mateyoh, theres a fine parallel between this and what stalin did tooJun 21 06:17
mateystalin was in a hurry to get his 5 year plans done at any costJun 21 06:17
mateyso everything got turned into quotasJun 21 06:17
mateyand then quotas would be expandedJun 21 06:17
mateymore progress! more progress!Jun 21 06:17
mateyits a lot like measuring airplane progress by the poundJun 21 06:18
mateywhat happened with these quotas was a hard lessonJun 21 06:18
mateyto push agriculture "forward" progress was measured in acres tilledJun 21 06:18
mateythere are so many analogues of this, in capitalism and in fake political progressJun 21 06:19
mateyacres tilled was just one way in which superficiality took over the big plansJun 21 06:19
mateybut because everyone was pushed to till as many acres as possible, they cut corners by tilling less deeplyJun 21 06:19
mateyshallow tilling lead to crop failuresJun 21 06:20
mateycrop failures to famines, and famines obviously to deaths in great numbersJun 21 06:20
mateythats what you get for "acres tilled" Jun 21 06:20
mateythats what shallow measures of "progress" gets the worldJun 21 06:20
mateyits deadlyJun 21 06:20
mateyto say the least, its destructive and self-defeatingJun 21 06:21
mateybut reform pissing matches still make gold standards of such thingsJun 21 06:21
mateythen wonder why people pile so much hate onto such mistakesJun 21 06:21
mateywhats to like about ordering everyone to aim at their foot and fire?Jun 21 06:22
mateypeople are going to hate itJun 21 06:22
mateyso they start shooting anyone who complains :)Jun 21 06:22
mateyno wonder mincer thinks the only answer is for humanity to kill itselfJun 21 06:22
mateyi mean its hard to blame himJun 21 06:23
mateybut every stage of human progress thinks its the last one Jun 21 06:24
mateyand civilisation is pretty adamant about thisJun 21 06:24
mateyyou were nothing before you met me! you can be nothing again!Jun 21 06:24
mateyit claims the only paths forward are the status quo and going back to what it was like beforeJun 21 06:25
mateyno other optionsJun 21 06:25
mateyi mean find a king who says "yknow, fuck royals, what fucking good are they REALLY"Jun 21 06:25
mateyevery stage of human progress thinks its the highest possible and its all downhill from thereJun 21 06:26
mateyso you might as well get used to itJun 21 06:26
mateywe can still make some pretty amazing and stupid mistakes along the way thoughJun 21 06:27
mateyenough to convince mincer its pointless at leastJun 21 06:27
mateyeven if we do ever pull off something betterJun 21 06:27
mateyhes going to win this argument in the short run either wayJun 21 06:27
mateyand by the short run i mean the past few centuries...Jun 21 06:28
mateyits a discomforting trendJun 21 06:28
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mateyi think if you focus on the past two centuries thoughJun 21 06:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 06:30
mateythere are hints at something better being possibleJun 21 06:30
mateyand this not NECESSARILY being the last stage of human progressJun 21 06:30
mateya lot of which has been glossed over and even rewrittenJun 21 06:30
mateybecause people REALLY want us to keep doing things the way we do them nowJun 21 06:31
mateyeven if it kills usJun 21 06:31
mateyif enough people figure that out, and take the right stepsJun 21 06:33
mateytheres at least a possibility, however remote, we can do better than oskar schindlerJun 21 06:33
mateynot for pride, not for competitionJun 21 06:33
mateyjust to save the human raceJun 21 06:33
*schestowitz_TR back from sleepJun 21 06:38
techrights-newsNew: Mr. Brisher’s Treasure by H. G. Wells gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Brisher.gmiJun 21 06:38
techrights-news"That bear remains on the couch to this day, slumbering softly but has never awoken. And the bluetooth mouse no longer speaks at all." gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/joneworlds/bear-orange-juice.gmiJun 21 06:39
techrights-news"What this says to me is that SSH speed testing is not trivial and has non-obvious results that I don't (currently) understand." ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/SshFastBulkSpeed-2022 | Source: uni TorontoJun 21 06:41
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techrights-news"As mentioned in my previous article, we do not use upstream build system to build LLVM in the base system, but hand-writen BSD Makefiles." ☛ https://www.cambus.net/differences-between-base-and-ports-llvm-in-openbsd/ | Source: Frederic CambusJun 21 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cambus.net | Differences between base and ports LLVM in OpenBSD | Frederic CambusJun 21 06:41
schestowitz_TR<matey> no wonder mincer thinks the only answer is for humanity to kill itselfJun 21 06:42
schestowitz_TRwe are getting close these daysJun 21 06:42
techrights-news"For the past couple weeks I've been experimenting on the Blackbird to see what window managers and desktop environments seem to work well with Fedora on ppc64le before I try to migrate my main Talos II workstation to whatever I end up picking." ☛ https://www.talospace.com/2022/06/fedora-36-mini-mini-review-on-blackbird.html | Source: TalospaceJun 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Fedora 36 mini-mini-review on the BlackbirdJun 21 06:43
schestowitz_TRfinancially and morally bankrupt nations have nothing left to loseJun 21 06:43
mateythats been true of north korea foreverJun 21 06:43
mateywell obviously not FOREVERJun 21 06:44
mateybut for long enough to learn something about financially and morally bankrupt nationsJun 21 06:44
techrights-news"Himitsu draws inspiration from Plan 9’s factotum, but polished up and redesigned for Unix. At its core, Himitsu is a key/value store and a simple protocol for interacting with it." ☛ https://drewdevault.com/2022/06/20/Himitsu.html | Source: Drew DeVaultJun 21 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | Introducing the Himitsu keyring & password manager for UnixJun 21 06:44
techrights-news"Most people don’t need a history lesson to know that Google has changed; they feel it. Try searching for a product on your smartphone and you’ll see that what was once a small teal bar featuring one “sponsored link” is now a hard-to-decipher" ☛ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/google-search-algorithm-internet/661325/ | Source: The AtlanticJun 21 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Is Google Dying? Or Did the Web Grow Up? - The AtlanticJun 21 06:45
mateyas for russia it tends to collapse when it overreachesJun 21 06:45
mateya lot of times it has helpJun 21 06:45
techrights-newsGood for GNU/Linux ☛ https://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/microsoft-windows/368320/microsoft-reportedly-blocks-russian-windows-10-and-11 | Source: IT ProJun 21 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Microsoft reportedly blocks Russian Windows 10 and Windows 11 downloads | IT PROJun 21 06:45
mateybut its had one gun aimed squarely at its own foot since the great depressionJun 21 06:45
techrights-newsSurveillance ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-chat-control-proposal-germany-takes-the-lead-in-defending-confidentiality-of-communications/ | Source: Patrick BreyerJun 21 06:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | EU „chat control“ proposal: Germany takes the lead in defending confidentiality of communications – Patrick BreyerJun 21 06:46
matey"theyve taken a classic direction, in that there is no direction" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UblSm_0sgb0Jun 21 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tom and Jerry: Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory – Nostalgia Critic - InvidiousJun 21 06:48
mateywhen shows lose their audience, they start doing celebrity guestsJun 21 06:49
mateychris martin on extras, in a show that didnt even existJun 21 06:49
mateystephen fry on... thats probably not fairJun 21 06:49
mateyor maybe it isJun 21 06:49
mateyeither way, im sure theres going to be fun times at the fsfJun 21 06:50
mateynow with sunglassesJun 21 06:50
mateydeal with it!Jun 21 06:51
techrights-newsUpdated today: "In this talk I go over the old web (of 1990s and early 2000s) and how websites looked back then, fast-forwarding to the present day and the sad current state of the web, and some possibilities on where we could go from here if we would like to have a better net/web in the future for user freedom, privacy, and control." https://bndl.org/net-beyond-web.txtJun 21 06:51
techrights-newsxkcd: Superintelligent AIs ⚓ https://xkcd.com/2635/ ䷉ Source: xkcdJun 21 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Superintelligent AIsJun 21 06:51
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166275Jun 21 06:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 21 06:53
mateyi dont like nostalgia critic, hes like a cracked out mike nelsonJun 21 06:54
techrights-newsNorwegian Meteorological Institute ☛ https://www.salon.com/2022/06/20/red-alert-portions-of-the-arctic-are-warming-much-faster-than-we-thought_partner/ | Source: SalonJun 21 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red alert: Portions of the Arctic are warming much faster than we thought | Salon.comJun 21 06:54
mateybut when hes right hes rightJun 21 06:54
techrights-news"This post deals with the claim that the challies.com article represents a genuinely Christian outlook on Bitcoin and blockchain." ☛ https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/the-christian-case-against-bitcoin-and-blockchain/ |Jun 21 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Christian case against Bitcoin and blockchain - lukeplant.me.ukJun 21 06:55
techrights-news"Now we learn that Meta has been investigating Sandbag for possible misuse of company resources." ☛ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/sheryl-sandberg-leaving-meta-lean-in-feminism/661291/ | Source: The AtlanticJun 21 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Sheryl Sandberg and the Crackling Hellfire of Corporate America - The AtlanticJun 21 06:55
mateyand according to the internet, mike nelson is also like a cracked out mike nelsonJun 21 06:56
mateywhich i suppose in fairness to nostalgia critic, is not an intended parallel (as far as i know)Jun 21 06:56
mateymy mistake was thinking nelson is just a scifi host, but i guess its worse than thatJun 21 06:57
matey¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jun 21 06:57
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techrights-newsBuilding a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-17-the-llama-master/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 17: The Llama Master | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 06:59
techrights-news"Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved on Steam Deck, a classic from back in the Xbox 360 days has a version on Steam and it works so beautifully on the Steam Deck." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/geometry-wars-retro-evolved-on-steam-deck-is-absolutely-awesome/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved on Steam Deck is absolutely awesome | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 06:59
techrights-newsSaying "Linux" instead of GNU/Linux" is technically, factually, legally false. Unless you mean just the kernel. Merely following the herd and excusing oneself because "everyone else does it" isn't a statement of merit. Quite the opposite. It means social blending was raised about simple facts.Jun 21 07:01
techrights-news"Another update to the free and open source app ProtonUp-Qt giving you a proper user interface for downloading GE-Proton, Luxtorpeda, Wine-GE and others for Steam Deck and GNU/Linux." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/proton-and-wine-updater-protonup-qt-now-shows-anti-cheat-status/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proton and Wine updater ProtonUp-Qt now shows anti-cheat status | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:02
techrights-newsOpenNox: "Westwood Studios made quite a lot of games like Dune II and the Command & Conquer series but they also made an RPG called Nox, that now lives on with the OpenNox game engine" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/westwood-classic-rpg-nox-lives-on-with-the-opennox-game-engine/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Westwood classic RPG 'Nox' lives on with the OpenNox game engine | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:02
techrights-newsMicrosoft chucks GNOME $10,000 for "political capture" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166130#comment-34077Jun 21 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI and GNOME (and Microsoft Bribes) | Tux MachinesJun 21 07:03
techrights-newsCorporates/corporations NEVER give money for free. They cannot. They'd get sued by shareholders. Re GNOME: http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_FoundationJun 21 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - TechrightsJun 21 07:05
techrights-news"Heroes of Might and Magic II game engine reimplementation, fheroes2, has another great new release out continuing to be the absolute best way to play this classic on modern platforms." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-reimplementation-gets-big-audio-improvements-and-ai-speedup/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroes of Might and Magic II reimplementation gets big audio improvements and AI speedup | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:05
techrights-news"Initially an Epic Store exclusive, you can now play The Cycle: Frontier free on Steam and thanks to Proton — on Steam Deck and GNU/Linux desktops." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-cycle-frontier-works-nicely-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktops/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Cycle: Frontier works nicely on Steam Deck and Linux desktops | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:05
techrights-news"After a brief stint at number 2 thanks to the popularity of V Rising, the Steam Deck has moved firmly back into place at number 1 on the top sellers list." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/steam-deck-back-to-being-the-global-top-seller-by-revenue-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck back to being the global top seller (by revenue) on Steam | GamingOnLinuxJun 21 07:06
techrights-news"voluntary departure or in the context of the current layoffs we see" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/06/19/episode-328-the-security-of-jobs-or-job-security/Jun 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 328 – The Security of Jobs or Job Security – Open Source SecurityJun 21 07:06
techrights-news"This tutorial will explain with examples how to draw charts with LibreOffice Calc. You will need some data prepared beforehand." ☛ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/libreoffice-calc-create-charts.html | Source: UbuntubuzzJun 21 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | LibreOffice Calc: Create ChartsJun 21 07:07
techrights-news"When you need to create a table quickly, for whatever numeric data in it, you can always use RANDBETWEEN formula in LibreOffice Calc." ☛ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/libreoffice-calc-create-random-data.html | Source: UbuntubuzzJun 21 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | LibreOffice Calc: Create Random DataJun 21 07:07
techrights-news"JasperReports is a Java class library" ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-jasperreports-on-ubuntu-20-04/ | Source: RoseHostingJun 21 07:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Install JasperReports on Ubuntu 20.04 - RoseHostingJun 21 07:08
techrights-news"A while ago, we reviewed "Taskwarrior", a command line task manager to manage your to-do tasks right from the Terminal window." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/please-command-line-todo-manager/ | Source: OSTechNixJun 21 07:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Please - A Simple Command Line Todo Manager - OSTechNixJun 21 07:08
techrights-news"According to the company, the Dual-Port Logging Shield was designed for easy data transmission using any standard Arduino SD library." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfun-unveils-microsd-data-logging-shield-with-spi-and-usb-c-interfaces/ | Source: Linux GizmosJun 21 07:09
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techrights-newsBaack doors on chip ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/aaeon-presents-new-com-express-modules-at-embedded-world-2022/ | Source: Linux GizmosJun 21 07:09
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techrights-news"Hello Linux geeks, welcome to the guide on how install Docker on Fedora 36 step by step. This guide also be applicable to previous versions of Fedora 35/34." ☛ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/install-docker-on-fedora-step-by-step/ | Source: Linux BuzzJun 21 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbuzz.com | How to Install Docker on Fedora 36 Step by StepJun 21 07:10
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techrights-newsI visited a friend who is watching Breaking Bad. Now clips appear on my YouTube? | Hacker News ⚓ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31800791 ䷉ Source: newsJun 21 07:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | I visited a friend who is watching Breaking Bad. Now clips appear on my YouTube? | Hacker NewsJun 21 07:12
techrights-news'The F-150 Lightning starts at about $40,000, but that's for the base model, and prices quickly climb with traditional pickup truck features. Schmidt paid about a hundred grand for his.' https://text.npr.org/1104920656Jun 21 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | He's the first buyer of the electric F-150. Why he's the future of the car industryJun 21 07:15
techrights-newsIDG is crap. It is promoting a false dichotomy of NSA spyware only. GNU/Linux not there, not "proper"... https://www.pcworld.com/article/402141/chromebooks-versus-windows-laptops-which-should-you-buy.htmlJun 21 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chromebook vs. laptop: Buying advice and recommendations | PCWorldJun 21 07:16
techrights-newsA happy solsticeJun 21 07:16
techrights-newsGames: Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer, Steam News, and Moving to GPL • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166276Jun 21 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer, Steam News, and Moving to GPL | Tux MachinesJun 21 07:16
techrights-newsJulian Assange's Extradition to the US Approved by UK Home Secretary - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/19/1429235 ䷉ Source: soylentnewsJun 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Julian Assange's Extradition to the US Approved by UK Home Secretary - SoylentNewsJun 21 07:17
techrights-newsPandemic brings out the worst in people and only corporations that choose to kill millions for the sake of patents https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/06/19/asian-americans-firearms-purchases-racism-covid-pandemic/7530782001/Jun 21 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.detroitnews.com | The Detroit NewsJun 21 07:18
techrights-news"The makers of the film "Hellboy" have scored a preliminary victory in Hawaii's federal court." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/judge-recommends-150k-piracy-judgment-against-torrent-site-operator-220620/ | Source: Torrent FreakJun 21 07:19
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techrights-news"A US court has ordered the former operators of pirate IPTV service Nitro TV to pay more than $100m in piracy damages to broadcaster DISH." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/nitro-iptv-loses-100m-piracy-lawsuit-leaving-hollywood-studios-fuming-220620/ | Source: Torrent FreakJun 21 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nitro IPTV Loses $100m Piracy Lawsuit Leaving Hollywood Studios Fuming * TorrentFreakJun 21 07:19
techrights-newsThis is for GNU/Linux https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/21/ingenic-t31-based-wifi-ai-camera-development-kit-promises-over-a-year-of-battery-life/Jun 21 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Ingenic T31-based WiFi AI camera development kit promises over a year of battery life - CNX SoftwareJun 21 07:22
techrights-news"Secure Boot" is a joke. It's NOT about security. It's a misnomer. ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/breaking-google-nest-hubs-secure-boot/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Breaking Google Nest Hub’s Secure Boot | HackadayJun 21 07:28
techrights-news"There is an age-old tradition among hackers of just making it yourself." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/dont-mind-if-i-ski-do/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Don’t Mind If I Ski-Do | HackadayJun 21 07:28
techrights-newsBGAs ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/working-with-bgas-design-and-layout/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Working With BGAs: Design And Layout | HackadayJun 21 07:30
techrights-news"A new EU certificate allows drones over 25 kilograms to fly beyond visual range in civil and military airspace. But there have been crashes." ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/20/german-bundeswehr-heavy-drone-first-time-flies-in-regular-air-traffic/ | Source: Site36Jun 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | German Bundeswehr: Heavy drone first time flies in regular air traffic – Security Architectures in the EUJun 21 07:32
techrights-news"Check out this handmade sign posted to the front door of a shuttered Jimmy John’s sandwich chain shop in Missouri last week. See if you can tell from the store owner’s message what happened" ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/06/why-paper-receipts-are-money-at-the-drive-thru/ | Source: Krebs On SecurityJun 21 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Why Paper Receipts are Money at the Drive-Thru – Krebs on SecurityJun 21 07:34
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techrights-news"[Rostislav Persion] has for some time been interested in making small, portable EMP devices capable of interfering with nearby electronics." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/scrambling-pocket-calculators-made-easy-with-emp-box-v2/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scrambling Pocket Calculators Made Easy With EMP Box V2 | HackadayJun 21 07:37
schestowitz[05:48] <mjg59_> Y'know weirdly the extent to which I work with Microsoft is driven by what other people want to work, not by what Microsoft wantsJun 21 07:37
schestowitzthe net effect is not helpfulJun 21 07:37
schestowitzthere are many analogies that go hereJun 21 07:37
schestowitzwith military examples, tooJun 21 07:37
schestowitzanyway, thanks for the honest chatJun 21 07:38
schestowitzI don't resent youJun 21 07:38
schestowitzand I think security leadership does need relevant qualificationJun 21 07:38
schestowitzI cannot just becomes Physician/GP without going to medical schoolJun 21 07:38
schestowitzsaying "I'm a doctor" is not sufficient, one needs to go through all the basics, which can take years, before even getting direct experience with patienceJun 21 07:39
schestowitz*patientsJun 21 07:39
techrights-newsArduino ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/blinking-an-arduino-led-in-julia/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blinking An Arduino LED, In Julia | HackadayJun 21 07:39
mjg59_CS degrees don't teach you securityJun 21 07:40
techrights-news"Debra Ansell of [GeekMomProjects] fame came up with a neat, 3D design that prints flat and then folds up into everyone’s favorite Platonic solid: a D12" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/wonderful-foldable-printable-dodecahedron/ | Source: HackadayJun 21 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wonderful Foldable Printable Dodecahedron | HackadayJun 21 07:40
schestowitz_TRsecurity is not a productJun 21 07:40
schestowitz_TRit's a conditionbJun 21 07:40
mjg59_Security involves you understanding a bunch of thingsJun 21 07:40
schestowitz_TRrightJun 21 07:40
schestowitz_TRlike networking Jun 21 07:40
mjg59_You need to understand the underlying hardware, you need to understand code, and you need to understand how people interact with all of theseJun 21 07:40
schestowitz_TRand if you star without that basis, you can get many things wrongJun 21 07:41
mjg59_And CS degrees do very little to teach you the relevant aspects of any of these thingsJun 21 07:41
techrights-newsAntivaxxers... the real ones ☛ https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/06/20/justin-bieber-his-ramsey-hunt-syndrome-is-not-due-to-vaccines/ | Source: OracJun 21 07:41
schestowitz_TRmjg59_: they push bad things nowJun 21 07:41
schestowitz_TRnot limited to what you specifyJun 21 07:42
schestowitz_TRtoday's CSD syllabus is training Jun 21 07:42
schestowitz_TRnot teachingJun 21 07:42
schestowitz_TRit was already getting worse when I did itJun 21 07:42
schestowitz_TRlike one course that taught some spreadsheetssJun 21 07:42
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schestowitz_TRmacros..Jun 21 07:43
schestowitz_TRand now we have browsers that execute random code from the webJun 21 07:43
schestowitz_TRand are far too bloatedJun 21 07:43
mjg59_When I teach OS security I focus on the need to understand you can't build a secure environment on an inscure baseJun 21 07:43
mjg59_But also that you can't demand that users behave perfectly in order to preserve securityJun 21 07:44
schestowitz_TRlike western chips?Jun 21 07:44
schestowitz_TRyou cannot say that in redbrick unisJun 21 07:44
mjg59_Awfully bold of you to assume western chips are more secure than any other chipsJun 21 07:44
schestowitz_TRmention back doors and you are in "crank" territoryJun 21 07:44
schestowitz_TReven when evidence existsJun 21 07:44
schestowitz_TRthese institutions reward to relay liesJun 21 07:45
schestowitz_TRand western fake securityJun 21 07:45
mjg59_At some point the decision isn't "Is this perfectly secure", it's "If this isn't secure, will it be used against me"Jun 21 07:45
schestowitz_TRthe idea of "just enough"... "almost security"Jun 21 07:45
schestowitz_TRdo they give courses on NSA spying programs?Jun 21 07:45
schestowitz_TRthey are NOT interested in real seucirytJun 21 07:45
mjg59_I do cover NSA-related attacks!Jun 21 07:45
schestowitz_TRthe US government actively CURTAILS encryptionJun 21 07:45
mjg59_I'm a little constrained in that respect because some of my students have security clearances and the US has awkward regulations hereJun 21 07:46
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2021/11/29/teaching-cybersecurity/Jun 21 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dr. Andy Farnell on Teaching Cybersecurity in an Age of ‘Fake Security’ | TechrightsJun 21 07:46
schestowitz_TR<mjg59_> I'm a little constrained in that respect because some of my students have security clearances and the US has awkward regulations hereJun 21 07:46
schestowitz_TRsee?Jun 21 07:46
mjg59_Yeah I live in a societyJun 21 07:46
schestowitz_TRiow, they actively would work to UNDERMINE securityJun 21 07:46
schestowitz_TRand that's part of the problemJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TRlike the person whoo says, I didn't know this bomb would be used there... and like thisJun 21 07:47
mjg59_That's… not what I said?Jun 21 07:47
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schestowitz_TRor... I was working for my boss... didn't realise it would help MicrosoftJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TRmjg59_> Yeah I live in a societyJun 21 07:47
mjg59_Anyone with a security clearance who sees something that was classified without having clearance to do so has to report itJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TRbe a bit boldJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TRtry to correct itJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TRfrom the inside, too, it is possibleJun 21 07:47
mjg59_So I can talk about what happened, but can't point them at primary sourcesJun 21 07:47
schestowitz_TR"security" as taught today is not securityJun 21 07:48
schestowitz_TRit's marketing of worthless proprietary crapJun 21 07:48
mjg59_Because otherwise they'd need to report themselves to the governmentJun 21 07:48
mjg59_And that's kind of a painJun 21 07:48
mjg59_(I'd be fine)Jun 21 07:48
schestowitz_TRso "defence" industry messes up seucierty educationJun 21 07:48
mjg59_So I have to point at secondary sources insteadJun 21 07:48
schestowitz_TRthat's what's happeningJun 21 07:48
mjg59_Eh at this point it doesn't matter muchJun 21 07:49
techrights-newsBPA ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/decades-of-research-document-the-detrimental-health-effects-of-bpa/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 21 07:49
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mjg59_The Snowden stuff is too old to be terribly interesting nowJun 21 07:49
mjg59_It's really not state of the artJun 21 07:49
mjg59_And the Vault 7 CIA stuff is just worthlessJun 21 07:49
schestowitz_TR<mjg59_> The Snowden stuff is too old to be terribly interesting nowJun 21 07:50
mjg59_They're about a decade behind the NSA in terms of interesting workJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRfalseJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRI complained about thsi repeatedlyJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRthhhe "too old" lineJun 21 07:50
mjg59_LookJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRsame for Microsoft crimesJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRthey STILL happen to this dateJun 21 07:50
mjg59_The relevant thing is "The NSA do this sort of thing"Jun 21 07:50
mjg59_Not the specific detailsJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRthe difference is, the government got invaded and quit caringJun 21 07:50
mjg59_And that can be communicated without referring to the original leaksJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contractingJun 21 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign bribes, whistleblower alleges - The VergeJun 21 07:50
schestowitz_TRnobody was punished!Jun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TR<mjg59_> Not the specific detailsJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRsome students were teen when it came outJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRyou need to teach them the full storyJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRinc. how the NSA took down the Syrian InternetJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRand invaded networks of HuaweiJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRto avoid p[articipating in Western propaganbdaJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRthe goal should be to teachJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRnot indoctrinateJun 21 07:51
schestowitz_TRor omit vital factsJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRI learned this on my own almost 20 years agoJun 21 07:52
mjg59_I need to teach them that the NSA (along with other high-level actors) are in a position to intercept hardware while it's shipping, to tap fibre in data centres, to exploit vulnerabilities they don't disclose to vendorsJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRby speaking to peopleJun 21 07:52
mjg59_Teaching them about decade old examples doesn't help thereJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRthey are not decade oldJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRthey STILL go onJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRand even worse things are done nowJun 21 07:52
schestowitz_TRwe just don't have the latestr internal docsJun 21 07:53
mjg59_Snowden's leak was almost10 years agoJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRPRISM never got sccuttledJun 21 07:53
mjg59_SoJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRnow they have more aggressive programmesJun 21 07:53
mjg59_The point isn't to talk about the specifics of any of thoseJun 21 07:53
mjg59_Because they're oldJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRage does not invalidate factsJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRthey're not oldJun 21 07:53
mjg59_The point is to talk about the type of attack that you still have to care aboutJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRthey are CURRENTJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TReven the binney stuffJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRhis figures are out of data as it got a LOT worse sinceJun 21 07:53
schestowitz_TRand you worked for thatJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRin a contractorJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRcalled Google Inc.Jun 21 07:54
mjg59_You seem to be strongly arguing against something I'm not sayingJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRNot Alphabet AgencyJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRno, the point is,Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRbe honest to themJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRyoui know the snowden leaksJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRbut you play "safe"Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRwith non-solutionsJun 21 07:54
mjg59_Being honest includes "Actors like the NSA do this kind of thing"Jun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRtoo much of the timeJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRand iirc, you were gullible enough to put those 'smart" things in your homeJun 21 07:54
schestowitz_TRwhat message does that send?Jun 21 07:55
mjg59_Pointing at documents where, legally, they'd have to immediately leave the class is not helpfulJun 21 07:55
schestowitz_TRthey should be legal to showJun 21 07:55
mjg59_They should!Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz_TRmaybe not in that universityJun 21 07:55
mjg59_And, in fact, they are!Jun 21 07:55
schestowitz_TRnationalism is not educationJun 21 07:55
mjg59_But a condition of having a security clearance is informing your superiors if you see something you don't have clearance to seeJun 21 07:55
schestowitz_TRThwe british did the same to the irish for that matterJun 21 07:55
mjg59_It's fucked up, but here we areJun 21 07:55
mjg59_Yeah kind of familiar with that oneJun 21 07:56
schestowitz_TRdon't want to say nationalism to someone to whom it is not applicableJun 21 07:56
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schestowitz_TRmjg59_: SO  HELP US CORRECT ITJun 21 07:56
schestowitz_TRsorryJun 21 07:56
schestowitz_TRall caps bby accidentJun 21 07:56
mjg59_OkJun 21 07:56
mjg59_I have two optionsJun 21 07:56
mjg59_1) Show primary Snowden docs. A bunch of my students have to leave, and learn nothingJun 21 07:56
mjg59_2) Discuss the classes of attack, giving examples of how these could theoretically apply to current tech rather than stuff from 10 years ago. No students have to leave, they all learn somethingJun 21 07:57
techrights-newsWTO killing millions with patents ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/the-global-south-in-the-wto-time-to-go-on-the-offensive/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRyou do not evcen need to show the raw documentJun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRjust be honestJun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRbut I realise this puts jobs at riskJun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRI confront people at work about it all the timeJun 21 07:57
mjg59_Yeah uh that's exactly what I was saying?Jun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRthe facts are on my sideJun 21 07:57
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schestowitz_TRthe issue is, they are not properly informedJun 21 07:57
schestowitz_TRso some of that is new to themnJun 21 07:58
mjg59_I can discuss it and link to secondary sourcesJun 21 07:58
mjg59_I can't show the primary sourcesJun 21 07:58
schestowitz_TRwe need to raise informed ciitzensJun 21 07:58
schestowitz_TRbut the regime does NOT want thatJun 21 07:58
mjg59_Which is exactly what you just suggestedJun 21 07:58
schestowitz_TRbut it's riskyJun 21 07:58
schestowitz_TRit always wasJun 21 07:58
schestowitz_TRthat's what mnakes an activistJun 21 07:58
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techrights-news"For nearly two centuries, literature from Marx and Dickens to Thomas Picketty and Barbara Ehrenreich has dissected and denounced the machinations of the greedy rich." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/20/why-do-tens-millions-us-support-economic-system-doesnt-benefit-them | Source: Common DreamsJun 21 08:15
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techrights-newsAssange a political prisoner, says Snowden. But to be in the UK government one must be a sociopath and liar like pretty dishonest Patel. ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/predictable-monstrosities-priti-patel-approves-assanges-extradition/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 21 08:16
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techrights-news"While the goings-on of the art world might appear to be a secondary concern amid the various crises of capitalism we face" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/how-bleak-is-the-future-of-the-art-world/ | Source: The NationJun 21 08:19
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techrights-newsLinux Foundation does NOT care about inclusion, it just tries to MONETISE the concept http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/Jun 21 08:21
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mateyschestowitz_TR  │ age does not invalidate factsJun 21 08:34
mateythats trueJun 21 08:34
techrights-newsProprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277Jun 21 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux MachinesJun 21 08:34
mateywe seriously need to do something about sputnik, before we lose the fucking space raceJun 21 08:34
techrights-newsDevices/Embedded • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166278Jun 21 08:34
techrights-newsAudiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux and Destination Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166279Jun 21 08:34
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166280Jun 21 08:35
mateyive got george washington on the lineJun 21 08:35
techrights-newsEdUBudgie Linux: Ubuntu Spin with Budgie Desktop for Students, Teachers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166281Jun 21 08:35
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mateyif sputnik comes around again, i think we can have enough cannons at the readyJun 21 08:39
schestowitz_TR:-DJun 21 08:40
schestowitz_TRyou can see it with a CanonJun 21 08:40
mateygalileo has a device we can use to track its pathJun 21 08:40
schestowitz_TR"a 5g"Jun 21 08:40
mateyi was going to say a telescope, but a few grand wont hurt eitherJun 21 08:41
mateyfortunately all these facts are still of the highest relevance to the present situationJun 21 08:41
mateyif we always do what weve always done, we will remain victoriasJun 21 08:42
mateyat least every victoria will Jun 21 08:42
mateyand maybe julie andrewsJun 21 08:42
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mateyi also think teaching class of attack is more important than showing actual documentsJun 21 08:47
mateythe documents have been around for ages Jun 21 08:47
mateywell-established journalists have literally written books about themJun 21 08:48
mateyteaching class of attack has both political and practical valueJun 21 08:48
mateyshowing the documents isnt going to teach most people what to do about them, so less practicalJun 21 08:48
mateyfortunately its not an either/or question in the first placeJun 21 08:49
mateysome people can show the documents, some people can teach the class of attackJun 21 08:49
mateyand others can insinuate that both jobs must fall to everyone, or the people teaching actual practical lessons around it arent doing their jobJun 21 08:50
mateyeven while failing to do the other half themselvesJun 21 08:50
mateyi believe mjg and dr farnell both teach about this in the ukJun 21 08:53
mateyim going to hazard a guess that dr farnells approach is actually closer to mjgs approach (with differences of course, as is to be expected between two different people) than it is to what roy proposesJun 21 08:54
mateyOTOH, perhaps dr farnell already does what roy proposes, thus demonstrating that mjgs objections are unfounded or inaccurateJun 21 08:54
mateybut i bet he doesntJun 21 08:54
mateyid be happy to critique mjgs teaching if i could find a problem with it-- i bet i wouldnt agree with what he teaches about secure boot and all that stuffJun 21 08:56
mateyid probably side with farnell or our other resident hardware guru on that matterJun 21 08:56
mateymy guess (this is only a guess) is that farnell would call it snake oilJun 21 08:57
mateybut maybe he would say its not entirely a bad ideaJun 21 08:57
mateyfunnily enough, i dont know anyone that thinks its an ENTIRELY bad ideaJun 21 08:57
mateyonly that the control over it goes against its usefulness or any desire someone like myself might have toJun 21 08:57
mateyi dont even want to buy something that gives microsoft an unfair edge, id personally rather boycott itJun 21 08:58
mateybut if it wasnt done in a way that clearly gives them an advantage (in practice)Jun 21 08:58
mateyeven i dont think the idea itself is uselessJun 21 08:58
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mateyas long as microsoft controls it (even as much as they do, which isnt completely nor does it need to be) i think its snake oilJun 21 08:59
mateyif i were doing devils advocate i might argue that if on average it does more good than harm... though thats not my position or my opinion, which is that its snake oilJun 21 09:00
mateyat least in practiceJun 21 09:00
mateyi think roy may have missed the fact that someone who may have access implied that there are newer things we dont know aboutJun 21 09:04
mateywhich is probably true by default Jun 21 09:04
mateyand it would be great (imo) if someone leaked those too, since so much of this stuff is being used in ways that are unconstitutional and illegalJun 21 09:05
mateybut whistleblowers dont come along every dayJun 21 09:05
mateythe funny thing is, if such a whistleblower did come alongJun 21 09:05
mateyclass of attack lessons would still be useful and practicalJun 21 09:05
mateyand then the snowden stuff really would be obsolete(ish)Jun 21 09:06
mateyuseful as part of a broader historical pictureJun 21 09:06
mateybut being up to date on what the government is doing to its citizens really would be more interesting (most likely) than what they were doing a decade agoJun 21 09:06
mateyboth are usefulJun 21 09:07
mateydepending on the contextJun 21 09:07
mateythat doesnt render the word "obsolete" into nonsenseJun 21 09:07
mateyif you send the monitor and the merrimack up against a navy destroyerJun 21 09:07
mateyi can tell you which one is obsoleteJun 21 09:08
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mateyif the person commanding the navy destroyer manages to lose in that battle, thats incredibleJun 21 09:09
mateyin the future there will be many battles where people with lower-grade weapons are up against higher tech Jun 21 09:09
mateythey might winJun 21 09:10
mateysometimesJun 21 09:10
mateybut even then, they would probably rather have proper guns than muskets, even if they would use muskets if its all they hadJun 21 09:11
techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166282Jun 21 09:11
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mateyoutside of marketing, "obsolete" actually means somethingJun 21 09:11
schestowitz_TR'I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.Jun 21 09:11
schestowitz_TRGeorge PattonJun 21 09:11
mateyokayJun 21 09:11
mateyyou send george patton in, and good luck to himJun 21 09:12
mateyi saw norman schwarzkopf onceJun 21 09:12
mateyon the national mallJun 21 09:12
schestowitz_TR"In my role as Wikileaks editor, I've been involved in fighting off many legal attacks. To do that, and keep our sources safe, we have had to spread assets, encrypt everything, and move telecommunications and people around the world to activate protective laws in different national jurisdictions."Jun 21 09:12
schestowitz_TRJulian AssangeJun 21 09:12
mateymy guess is he wouldnt win much these daysJun 21 09:12
schestowitz_TRof course they stole his laptops and other devices while he was unpreparedJun 21 09:13
schestowitz_TRhe had handcuffs in thereJun 21 09:13
schestowitz_TRdidn't get a chance to use theseJun 21 09:13
schestowitz_TRhe had been set up by the embassy    staffJun 21 09:13
mateyif it were up to me, what has happened to assange would not happen to anyone everJun 21 09:13
schestowitz_TRhttps://quotepark.com/quotes/1930455-richard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway-and-somet/Jun 21 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quotepark.com | Richard Stallman quote: I always expect to lose. I fight anyway, and sometimes … | Quotes of famous peopleJun 21 09:14
mateythe thing between mjg and assange is personalJun 21 09:14
mateyyou wont understand it with quotes that dont address thatJun 21 09:14
schestowitz_TRmentioned EFFJun 21 09:14
schestowitz_TRwhen it was more functionalJun 21 09:14
schestowitz_TR"Context: I am a pessimist by nature. Many people can only keep on fighting when they expect to win. I'm not like that, I always expect to lose. I fight anyway, and sometimes I win. I'm not the main leader in this particular battle. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is fighting. Public Knowledge is fighting. People need to get involved politically. At this point people should go to the EFF website and the Public Knowledge website, Jun 21 09:14
schestowitz_TRand continue doing so over the coming weeks to see how they can get involved in this coming campaign. It's going to take a lot of people spending probably at least twenty minutes. If you care enough about your freedom to spend twenty minutes on it, if you can tear yourself away from whatever little job it is you're doing this week, and next week, and so on. Spend a little time fighting for your freedom, and we can win.Jun 21 09:14
schestowitz_TRSource: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1930455-richard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway-and-somet/"Jun 21 09:14
mateyrichard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway <- this is one of my favourite stallman quotesJun 21 09:15
mateystallman was set up by the effJun 21 09:15
schestowitz_TRnoJun 21 09:17
mateyballsJun 21 09:17
schestowitz_TReff did not set him upJun 21 09:17
schestowitz_TReff was set upJun 21 09:17
schestowitz_TRby some people who changed it from withinJun 21 09:17
schestowitz_TRto become a permissive and lenient armJun 21 09:17
schestowitz_TRrather than what it originallly wasJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TREFF did not attack RMS before Barlow diedJun 21 09:18
mateyby some people who changed it from within <- so Jun 21 09:18
mateythat doesnt negate what i saidJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRdepends on on what "EFF" meansJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRthe founders are not thereJun 21 09:18
mateyi agree with thatJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRit's like Mozilla nowJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRor LFJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRLF is a bit differentJun 21 09:18
mateybut that was my pointJun 21 09:18
schestowitz_TRin LF it's the corporationsJun 21 09:18
mateyyours seems to be that the eff changed and therefore was not the effJun 21 09:18
mateytherefore the eff didnt setup stallmanJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRIn Mozilla and EFF politician factionsJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRbeholden to the corporationsJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRyesJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TReffJun 21 09:19
mateyin a way i agree with that too, but it hardly negates what i said in the first placeJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRis a nammeJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRlike SPLCJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRthat name can be misleadingJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRbefore there were "Events"Jun 21 09:19
mateyyes, eff has "freedom" in the nameJun 21 09:19
schestowitz_TRFSF also hasd quite a few disloyal insidersJun 21 09:20
schestowitz_TRthey were not disloyal to RMSJun 21 09:20
mateyit should be called the treacherous bullshit foundation  insteadJun 21 09:20
schestowitz_TRbut to the missionJun 21 09:20
mateythey were not disloyal to RMS <- but to the mission <- well this is differentJun 21 09:20
schestowitz_TRRMS just 'happens' to adhere to the missionJun 21 09:20
schestowitz_TRafetr all, he founded the darn thing!Jun 21 09:20
mateyhe certainly didJun 21 09:20
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/Jun 21 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: Freedom is the Goal (Updated) | TechrightsJun 21 09:20
mateyincidentally its not impossible for a founder to betray the mission. i dont think thats the right word to describe what stallman didJun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TR"http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/"Jun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TR"or cords tied around part of you. So, how are we going to get all the way there? We’re going to have to make continuing efforts. And why would people do that? Only if they value freedom. If you want to reach a goal that requires a long journey the crucial point is to remember the goal. If you forget the goal, you won’t get there.Jun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TR"Jun 21 09:21
mateyi think he abandoned the mission, he didnt betray itJun 21 09:21
mateyi also think he was PUSHEDJun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TRnow the goal is not what it wasJun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TReven RMS made some concessionsJun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TRon a number of key thingsJun 21 09:21
mateyeveryone makes concessions, its a matter of the nature and justificationJun 21 09:21
schestowitz_TRto the point where some other groups seem more pro-SF than the FSFJun 21 09:21
mateypast a point there is no justificationJun 21 09:21
mateybut there are always SOME concesssionsJun 21 09:22
mateythere are no perfect people or perfect orgsJun 21 09:22
mateythis was true even when the fsf did its jobJun 21 09:22
mateyit doesnt anymoreJun 21 09:22
mateyto the point where some other groups seem more pro-SF than the FSF <- far too few imoJun 21 09:22
*schestowitz_TR checks current fsf patronJun 21 09:22
schestowitz_TRactuallyJun 21 09:22
mateyi think this goes beyond fundingJun 21 09:22
schestowitz_TRlet me check dictionaryJun 21 09:22
schestowitz_TROK  waitJun 21 09:23
mateyi am waitingJun 21 09:23
schestowitz_TRso patron CAN be a slave ownerJun 21 09:23
mateyhahaJun 21 09:24
schestowitz_TR191\3 WebsterJun 21 09:24
mateymaybe "patron" is the real thing ibm left overJun 21 09:24
schestowitz_TRFSF: we have a slaveowners pageJun 21 09:24
schestowitz_TRwe are slaves to themJun 21 09:24
mateylook up "custom" Jun 21 09:24
mateyits part of ICEJun 21 09:24
schestowitz_TRbut it would be provocative to state thisJun 21 09:24
matey but it would be provocative to state this <- im sure that doesnt bother youJun 21 09:25
matey<schestowitz_TR> even RMS made some concessions <- he had the right idea about this too https://www.fsf.org/news/compromiseJun 21 09:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | "Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard Stallman — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareJun 21 09:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 09:30
matey "Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard StallmanJun 21 09:30
mateyunfortunately, the fsf made a number of ruinous compromisesJun 21 09:30
mateythe point of the article is very clear: not all compromises are ruinous, and the ruinous ones are the most important to avoidJun 21 09:30
mateybut they failed to do thatJun 21 09:30
mateyso the article, while absolutely valid, is sort of moot nowJun 21 09:30
mateyat least for themJun 21 09:31
mateythe fsf is ruinedJun 21 09:31
mateyit is in ruinsJun 21 09:31
mateyit has lost credibility, momentum, directionJun 21 09:32
mateywhat amount of funding could give that back?Jun 21 09:32
mateywhat amount of marketing?Jun 21 09:32
mateyand most importantlyJun 21 09:32
mateywhat amount of SWAG!Jun 21 09:32
matey"weve covered mt fuji with fsf water bottles to bring the world this important message:"Jun 21 09:33
matey"software freedom is important to users! so please sign up at microsoft github, thank you"Jun 21 09:33
mateyas someone who was not only an fsf memberJun 21 09:35
mateybut who purchased and wore a fair bit of "swag" Jun 21 09:35
mateyi have some "creative" ideas on what they can do with those water bottlesJun 21 09:35
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2022/06/21/patrons-not-criticised/Jun 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Companies That Cannot be Criticised | TechrightsJun 21 09:36
schestowitz_TRmatey: I want your comment on this ^^Jun 21 09:36
schestowitz_TRit's s ddraftJun 21 09:36
mateyno promisesJun 21 09:38
mateyill read itJun 21 09:38
schestowitz_TRI was busy picking the bits for itJun 21 09:38
schestowitz_TRhence was inactive in ircJun 21 09:38
schestowitz_TRat least social control media is no longer a "thing"Jun 21 09:38
mateyok heres my commentJun 21 09:39
matey"the fsf has fallen for this, hook, line and sinker"Jun 21 09:39
matey(you dont have to use it)Jun 21 09:39
schestowitz_TRI can doJun 21 09:39
schestowitz_TRwhat name to use?Jun 21 09:39
mateywhatever pleases you. i cant actually stop you from quoting me.Jun 21 09:39
schestowitz_TRokk, anon'edJun 21 09:40
schestowitz_TRdoneJun 21 09:40
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schestowitz_TRXRevan86: can you confirm Rusian media says Windows is banned for download?Jun 21 09:42
schestowitz_TRfrom Russian IPs?Jun 21 09:42
schestowitz_TRall the "latest" versionsJun 21 09:42
mateyisnt that legally required anyway?Jun 21 09:43
schestowitz_TRI saw British sites relying on Russian language sourcesJun 21 09:43
mateyi mean arent there sanctions?Jun 21 09:43
schestowitz_TRthis iis very significant if as true as reported in EnglishJun 21 09:43
schestowitz_TRmatey: not until nowJun 21 09:43
mateythen why was the fsf complying like a month ago?Jun 21 09:43
schestowitz_TRI've long wonderred when the Pentagon will figure out Windows back doors in Russia aren't worth itJun 21 09:43
schestowitz_TRaand they would seek to disrupt Russia by cutting off the Windows "supply"Jun 21 09:44
mateyespecially when the nsa can do better backdoors in non-windows stuff than windows canJun 21 09:44
schestowitz_TRfsf shuld move to canada is somethingJun 21 09:44
schestowitz_TRdon't think canada is that extremeJun 21 09:44
schestowitz_TRre "export" of enxryption"Jun 21 09:44
*schestowitz_TR checks distancefrom boston to torontoJun 21 09:44
mateythe problem with the fsf moving to canada, while i love the ideaJun 21 09:45
mateyis they would become a different entityJun 21 09:45
mateyunder different rulesJun 21 09:45
mateywith the fsf name/brandJun 21 09:45
schestowitz_TRManchester is very near to MontrealJun 21 09:45
schestowitz_TReven Ottawa isn't farJun 21 09:45
mateyi really think the physical distance is the least of the matterJun 21 09:45
mateyrhetorically its hilarious, but practically speaking id say its a non-starterJun 21 09:46
schestowitz_TRlike 200 miles a wayJun 21 09:46
schestowitz_TRa few hours on the road, depending if it's a "highway" (motorway)Jun 21 09:46
mateyif they had done so 35 years ago, in hindsight, its not such a bad ideaJun 21 09:46
schestowitz_TR1.5 hours on autobahn Jun 21 09:46
schestowitz_TRopenbsd iss based thereJun 21 09:46
mateyif they move george washington to canada, hes still very deadJun 21 09:46
schestowitz_TRwhy not fsf?Jun 21 09:46
matey openbsd iss based there <- thats one of the things that would make it hilariousJun 21 09:46
mateyi dont think the de raadt deserves to be bothered that wayJun 21 09:47
mateybut that old rivalry is just ridiculous enough that id be mildly amusedJun 21 09:47
mateyalso he can take care of himselfJun 21 09:47
mateywhich is more than i can say for the fsfJun 21 09:47
mateythere are actual benefits for the fsf being based in canadaJun 21 09:48
mateythis is definitely a "too little, too late" idea, but in fairness, what wouldnt beJun 21 09:48
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/46.2435/-73.1744Jun 21 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openstreetmap.org | OpenStreetMapJun 21 09:48
mateyyes its a wonder how close the northern usa is to southern canadaJun 21 09:49
schestowitz_TRone strong statement for freedom would be fsf saying goodbe to trumplandJun 21 09:49
schestowitz_TRvoting with the feetJun 21 09:49
mateywhen you consider they share the usa/canadian borderJun 21 09:49
mateynow heres a questionJun 21 09:50
mateywith all my scathing critiques of themJun 21 09:50
mateydo i really think everyone at the fsf deserves to be put through all the fun of crossing that border?Jun 21 09:50
mateymy guess is they would not be harassed too much as a group, so sureJun 21 09:51
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mateyalso i think its worse on the way backJun 21 09:52
mateyif they stay in canada its mootJun 21 09:53
techrights-news"First of all, we must admit that DoG doesn't sound like a super bad idea (and it's a much better acronym) compared to DoH, and I'm not saying this only because I'm a Puppy Linux developer..." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/dns-over-gemini.gmiJun 21 09:53
mateybonus: they get into an even more heated dispute with fsf europe, for having the same initialsJun 21 09:53
matey"fsf, eh?"Jun 21 09:53
mateythey would probably fsfc, or just (being the original, SORT OF) fsfJun 21 09:54
techrights-news🔤SpellBinding: CSHIOPE Wordo: RUNIC gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-20.gmiJun 21 09:54
matey/me tries to think if stallman would be happier in mexicoJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRfsfe does not seem very active latelyJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRthey perish ands struggleJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRthey lost a lot of respect among those whom trhey neededJun 21 09:55
mateyhe might be taken hostage by cartels, but he should be used to that by nowJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRand now they try to remove my twitter accountJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/Jun 21 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | TechrightsJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRsupport fsfeJun 21 09:55
schestowitz_TRgive them moneyJun 21 09:56
schestowitz_TRso they can get busyJun 21 09:56
mateythey lost a lot of respect <- what an absolute and terrible shameJun 21 09:56
schestowitz_TRtrying to derail crticsJun 21 09:56
mateyi understand hitler killed himselfJun 21 09:56
mateyi say its never the ones who should, but the fact isJun 21 09:56
mateyits ALMOST never the ones that shouldJun 21 09:56
mateyoccasionally we get luckyJun 21 09:56
schestowitz_TRmatey: maybe sometimes told him "you're part jew"Jun 21 09:56
mateyand then its never soon enough :/Jun 21 09:57
schestowitz_TR*someoneJun 21 09:57
mateyyeah i keep hearing that oneJun 21 09:57
mateybut ive never found anything conclusive about itJun 21 09:57
mateyive heard it many timesJun 21 09:57
schestowitz_TRno, something about a grandpaJun 21 09:57
schestowitz_TRanyway, it's not an ethnicityJun 21 09:57
mateyindeedJun 21 09:57
schestowitz_TRso you can find routes connecting anyone to anythingJun 21 09:57
mateybut even if its not, its a pretty staggering hypocrisyJun 21 09:58
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.statnews.com/2017/08/16/white-nationalists-genetic-ancestry-test/Jun 21 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.statnews.com | White nationalists flock to genetic ancestry tests. Some don't like the resultJun 21 09:58
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-whiteJun 21 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pbs.org | How white supremacists respond when their DNA says they’re not ‘white’ | PBS NewsHourJun 21 09:58
mateyroflJun 21 09:59
mateyoh 21st century, you really are the craziest one yetJun 21 09:59
mateyit even started off nutsJun 21 10:00
mateyand hasnt backed downJun 21 10:00
mateyeggshell supremacistsJun 21 10:00
techrights-newsLinux Around The World: Mexico http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165929#comment-34078Jun 21 10:00
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schestowitz_TRthey are not whiteJun 21 10:01
mateytheyre genetically offwhiteJun 21 10:01
mateybut its funny because i meanJun 21 10:01
schestowitz_TRunltil they lack some chromosomesJun 21 10:02
mateyits a mutationJun 21 10:02
schestowitz_TRthe "real" whites are albinosJun 21 10:02
mateyalbino supremacists are easy to hold back thoughJun 21 10:02
mateyjust put up office lighting and theyre fuckedJun 21 10:02
schestowitz_TRthey don't SEE it that wayJun 21 10:02
mateythe only albino i ever knew was indianJun 21 10:03
schestowitz_TR(sorry, it's 2022, I cannot make such jokes)Jun 21 10:03
mateyhe looked white, really was asianJun 21 10:03
schestowitz_TReven is albinos themselves find such jokes funnyJun 21 10:03
mateyi always thought he bore an uncanny resemblance to john mccainJun 21 10:03
mateyno, seriously, he didJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRthought exerciseJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRlook at symbolic references to racism and slaveryJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRthen connect those to LF logosJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRI'm sure there are many Jun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRall sorts of racist smbolsJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRcoloursJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRthat would really pain LFJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRhaving to explin itselfJun 21 10:04
mateyi mean the windows logo swastika, no ones going to top thatJun 21 10:04
schestowitz_TRlike it's asking the community to explain itselfJun 21 10:05
schestowitz_TRfor using terms like "blacklist"Jun 21 10:05
mateyi think its silly, but if the shoe fitsJun 21 10:05
mateyibm and microsoft make more sense when you think of them as the same companyJun 21 10:05
schestowitz_TRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolismJun 21 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nazi symbolism - WikipediaJun 21 10:05
schestowitz_TRscroll downJun 21 10:05
mateyis there a window?Jun 21 10:05
schestowitz_TRodal for instanceJun 21 10:06
schestowitz_TRyesJun 21 10:06
schestowitz_TRWindows 11Jun 21 10:06
schestowitz_TR11: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Schutzstaffel_SS.svg/110px-Schutzstaffel_SS.svg.pngJun 21 10:06
schestowitz_TRthat in itself can be truned into a memeJun 21 10:06
schestowitz_TRWindows SSJun 21 10:06
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_(band)Jun 21 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kiss (band) - WikipediaJun 21 10:07
schestowitz_TRthey're still goingJun 21 10:07
mateydeliberate, gene simmons is from israelJun 21 10:07
schestowitz_TRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#/media/File:Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svgJun 21 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linux Foundation - WikipediaJun 21 10:07
mateyhe thought he would appropriate it Jun 21 10:07
mateythere are a lot of things i dislike about him, but that isnt one of them, id say its fair playJun 21 10:08
mateyace is ok imoJun 21 10:08
mateySimmons was born as Chaim WitzJun 21 10:09
mateyhe got that name from his fatherJun 21 10:10
mateyso technically... hes only HALF witzJun 21 10:10
matey(im sure hes heard that one before)Jun 21 10:10
mateyactually you probably have tooJun 21 10:10
mateybut hey now you have something in common with gene simmons you probably didnt knowJun 21 10:10
mateyboth your names end in the same 4 lettersJun 21 10:11
mateybut his also starts that wayJun 21 10:12
mateythank moses and shiva i didnt make fun of his mothers name, she survived the campsJun 21 10:19
mateythis is funJun 21 10:22
mateyThe Beatles had a significant influence on Simmons. "There is no way I'd be doing what I do now if it wasn't for the Beatles. I was watching The Ed Sullivan Show and I saw them. Those skinny little boys, kind of androgynous, with long hair like girls. It blew me away that these four boys [from] the middle of nowhere could make that music.Jun 21 10:22
mateydidnt know he was that much of a beatles fanJun 21 10:22
matey :) he and paul stanley started another rock band first, but didnt like it so they tried to fire the band membersJun 21 10:24
mateythat didnt work, so they quit the band insteadJun 21 10:24
mateyall in all a reasonably good move for rock musicJun 21 10:24
mateyas it led to kiss, which is hardly the worst band everJun 21 10:25
mateyoh yes, now we get to why i dont think too much of himJun 21 10:28
mateypolitically, hes a fucking idiotJun 21 10:28
mateyHe supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, writing on his website: "I'm ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn't theirs... in a country they've never been to... simply to liberate the people therein"Jun 21 10:29
mateyidiot.Jun 21 10:29
mateygood bass player thoughJun 21 10:29
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matey"Just as corporations have been involved with regulatory capture for years, effectively removing the teeth from regulators so that large businesses can do as they please, they are gobbling up young, intelligent, motivated people, and saddling them with a ton of corporate busy work"Jun 21 10:31
mateyand corporate "ethics"Jun 21 10:31
mateywhich is like military intelligenceJun 21 10:32
*schestowitz_TR back from the sunJun 21 10:43
schestowitz_TRI have an idea for LFJun 21 10:43
schestowitz_TRhttps://training.linuxfoundation.org/master-training-and-certification-agreement/Jun 21 10:44
schestowitz_TRlolJun 21 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-training.linuxfoundation.org | Master Training and Certification Agreement - Linux Foundation - TrainingJun 21 10:44
schestowitz_TRit's easier than I imagineddJun 21 10:45
schestowitz_TRhttps://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/Jun 21 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux FoundationJun 21 10:47
schestowitz_TRouuuuch!Jun 21 10:47
schestowitz_TRity says "blacked out"Jun 21 10:48
schestowitz_TRracists!Jun 21 10:48
schestowitz_TRhttps://docs.linuxfoundation.org/lfx/insights/identities-and-affiliations/blacklist-an-email-addressJun 21 10:49
schestowitz_TRshoosh!!Jun 21 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.linuxfoundation.org | Blacklist an Email Address - Linux Foundation DocumentationJun 21 10:49
matey" Whenever prudery takes itself seriously, it threatens repression."Jun 21 10:50
matey^ rmsJun 21 10:50
mateyA foreigner working in Dubai accused a used car seller of "ripping off" its customers, and was jailed for "insulting"Jun 21 10:53
mateyat least one place really does itJun 21 10:54
mateyim sure its a very nice placeJun 21 10:54
mateyyou just walk around with a gun to your head all the timeJun 21 10:54
mateyand everyone is inceJun 21 10:54
mateyniceJun 21 10:54
mateyA Danish woman accepted a complimentary glass of wine on an Emirates flight to Dubai. On account of this, she has been jailed there for a year awaiting trial. Jun 21 10:55
mateyholy shit make up your mindJun 21 10:55
mateyhere would you like a glass of wine? YOURE UNDER ARREST!Jun 21 10:56
mateygood thing she didnt order the chicken, they might have cut her head offJun 21 10:56
mateyi know at least one vegetarian figures thats fair play :)Jun 21 10:57
schestowitz_TRi will add in ibm logoJun 21 10:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▅▃▅▆▅▇▆▄▅▇▅▄▅▆▅▆▅▇▆▆▃▃▄▅▄▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 26.66 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▃▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.05▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jun 21 10:59
schestowitz_TRwhat other companies with nazi tries are in LF?Jun 21 10:59
schestowitz_TRnot fordJun 21 10:59
schestowitz_TRnot GMJun 21 10:59
schestowitz_TRcokeJun 21 10:59
schestowitz_TR"fanta"Jun 21 10:59
matey"blood of jews"Jun 21 10:59
mateyif youre not a fluffy fan you wont know wtfJun 21 11:00
matey"Our members are our superpower"Jun 21 11:03
mateypretty sure they mean bullshitJun 21 11:03
mateythey escaped from the destruction of their own planet, which exploded after the amount of bullshit reached critical massJun 21 11:04
mateyand the light from our sun makes them super, super, super full of shit, more full of shit than a freight train carrying manure for monsantoJun 21 11:05
schestowitz_TRIBM http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1920px-Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svg_.pngJun 21 11:07
matey"Join forces with the community to create a force-multiplier"Jun 21 11:07
mateythat multiplies forces with a joiner!Jun 21 11:08
schestowitz_TRwatson http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1920px-Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svg_.pngJun 21 11:08
schestowitz_TRwrong urlJun 21 11:08
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/ibm-ww2.pngJun 21 11:08
matey"Forms on this site are protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.  "Jun 21 11:08
mateya comma would make that a lot more reasonableJun 21 11:08
matey"lets eat dinner and grandpa can watch his game"Jun 21 11:09
schestowitz_TRwhere does it say thatJun 21 11:14
schestowitz_TR?Jun 21 11:14
mateyif you click on membersJun 21 11:14
mateyit says "Forms on this site are protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.Jun 21 11:14
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2022/06/21/linux-foundation-words-hypocrisy/Jun 21 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Words You Cannot Say Unless You Are the Linux Foundation | TechrightsJun 21 11:15
schestowitz_TRhave a look, mmaybe too stgrngJun 21 11:15
schestowitz_TRbut the nazi bit I lay on IBMJun 21 11:15
schestowitz_TRmore than LFJun 21 11:15
schestowitz_TRthat's not just factual but also widespread knowledgeJun 21 11:16
mateythis is funny but Jun 21 11:16
mateyto me it really feels like going in circlesJun 21 11:17
schestowitz_TRthere are some circles there tooJun 21 11:17
schestowitz_TRor "flying saucers"Jun 21 11:17
mateylolJun 21 11:17
mateyeach year that ive done thisJun 21 11:17
mateyive gone back and reviewed things, in light of whats newJun 21 11:18
mateyoriginally i was trying to help the fsf better itself, un-miss missed opportunitiesJun 21 11:18
mateywaste of timeJun 21 11:18
mateythen i was trying to save it from itselfJun 21 11:18
mateywaste of timeJun 21 11:18
schestowitz_TR"In 2011, Microsoft became a top contributor to the Linux kernel for the first time. Times have clearly changed.  "Jun 21 11:19
schestowitz_TRhttps://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/Jun 21 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux FoundationJun 21 11:19
schestowitz_TRit no longer names authorJun 21 11:19
schestowitz_TRbut I could check wayback machineJun 21 11:19
mateyIn 2011, Microsoft became a top contributor to the Linux kernel for the first time.Jun 21 11:19
mateyTHAT is interestingJun 21 11:19
schestowitz_TRit's probably jimbo linzemJun 21 11:19
mateybeing the SECOND thing ive learned about 2011Jun 21 11:19
mateywhich i refer to as stallmans half-resignation from the gnu projectJun 21 11:19
schestowitz_TRsheela was aowkring for Microsofters around that timeJun 21 11:19
mateybut imo it looks like a coincidence (it might not be. it looks like it is)Jun 21 11:20
mateyi hope to understand your obsession with the lf somedayJun 21 11:20
mateytheyre not irrelevantJun 21 11:20
mateyi dont mean why you focus on them sometimesJun 21 11:20
mateyi mean why you seem so hyperfocused on them (more than anything else)Jun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRjim WOKE up in bedJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRwith MicrosoftJun 21 11:21
mateyyeahJun 21 11:21
mateymany haveJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRmaybe you don't see how far LF goesJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRit monopolised eventsJun 21 11:21
mateyno, i dontJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRalmostJun 21 11:21
mateythats why i saidJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRand workeed to crush "competing" eventsJun 21 11:21
schestowitz_TRI was told storiesJun 21 11:21
mateysomeday i hope to understand thatJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRthey want to monopolise the messageJun 21 11:22
mateyi mean Jun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRand we know who controls LFJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRsee the boardJun 21 11:22
mateythis is really what linux has ALWAYS doneJun 21 11:22
mateyit monopolised gnuJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRso we must caution peopleJun 21 11:22
mateyit gave gnu to monopoliesJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRyes, gnu alsoJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRgnu is PART of LinuxJun 21 11:22
mateyhehJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRbut gnu started after 1991Jun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRbecause "Linux" started 30 years agoJun 21 11:22
mateyi mean thats a narrative worth correctingJun 21 11:22
schestowitz_TRgnu aka "dem linux commmmmands"Jun 21 11:22
mateyjust to get history rightJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TR"mom, where's the code of lf in linux?"Jun 21 11:23
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schestowitz_TR"I searched all of linux, can't find it ;(""Jun 21 11:23
matey/me goes to look up when lf became lf againJun 21 11:23
mateynot 2000 obviouslyJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TRI meat lsJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TR*meant lsJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TRnot lfJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TRalthough, lf too puts no code in itJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TRgreeg k-h just backports patchesJun 21 11:23
schestowitz_TRlinus hiomself says he writes no codeJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRat most he does some mock or pseudo code over emailJun 21 11:24
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation Formation 2000; 22 years ago (2000) <- pfffffffffftJun 21 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linux Foundation - WikipediaJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRto explain to coders with examplesJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRbut linus does not patch any code of his own anymoreJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRLF =2007Jun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRfaking their ageJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRlike Manchester University using some phony UMIST date to fake its  ageJun 21 11:24
schestowitz_TRand then putting that year in the logoJun 21 11:25
schestowitz_TRLF is mostly OSDL peopleJun 21 11:25
schestowitz_TRnot the failing zemlin thingJun 21 11:25
schestowitz_TRall they got from that is some specs and a mac fanboiJun 21 11:25
mateyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Development_Labs On January 22, 2007, OSDL and the Free Standards Group merged to form the Linux FoundationJun 21 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Development Labs - WikipediaJun 21 11:25
schestowitz_TRwho is unfit to boss torvaldsJun 21 11:25
mateyso 2007 they started doing thisJun 21 11:25
schestowitz_TRyeahJun 21 11:26
mateyand before 2007, osi was doing itJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRit's the osl thingJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRiirc, osdl is 2004Jun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRcohen got too cllose to microsoftJun 21 11:26
mateythe merger was when lf was actually createdJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRhe did several other bad thingJun 21 11:26
mateyand the merger was 2007Jun 21 11:26
mateybefore 2007 lf didnt existJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRand then he vanished for goodJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRhgard to find anything about him online after CSI/CIS failedJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRLF is a lying operatiomnJun 21 11:26
DaemonFChttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-weighs-a-gas-tax-holiday-how-much-would-consumers-really-save/ar-AAYFVWk?li=BBnb7KzJun 21 11:26
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DaemonFCLOLJun 21 11:26
schestowitz_TRwikipedia is a good place to lieJun 21 11:27
schestowitz_TRif you have PR peopleJun 21 11:27
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mateybut i meanJun 21 11:27
mateylf came in like american in wwiiJun 21 11:27
schestowitz_TRmohammad bin salman for prees 2024Jun 21 11:28
DaemonFCWhat I would do if I wanted to get gas prices down would be to tell the oil companies that they'd get prices down on their own, or I'd have the EPA increase their ethanol blending requirements so steeply that they couldn't do it and had to pay fines, and then use the money to send out gas cards or something.Jun 21 11:28
schestowitz_TRof course he never ranJun 21 11:28
schestowitz_TRdidn't get votedJun 21 11:28
mateywhen osi had been doing this monopolisation shit for nearly a decade alreadyJun 21 11:28
schestowitz_TRthey don'\t hold electionsJun 21 11:28
schestowitz_TR"i give you cheap oil... made of journalists"Jun 21 11:28
mateytheres a pill for thatJun 21 11:28
DaemonFCI don't know why people who complain about gas prices don't just tune up their car.Jun 21 11:28
DaemonFCIf they've been driving it a while, there's an extra mile or two per gallon to be had in there.Jun 21 11:29
DaemonFCInstead, they buy lotto scratchers and booze.Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz_TRhttps://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/Jun 21 11:29
schestowitz_TR"The one thing I left out is that there were plenty of suits in the room too, trying to meet, influence and hire the open source geeks that will lead the next wave of computing."Jun 21 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux FoundationJun 21 11:29
schestowitz_TRSiuitsJun 21 11:29
schestowitz_TRPlanety of suitsJun 21 11:30
schestowitz_TRSuit: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/zemlin-tuxedo.jpgJun 21 11:30
techrights-newsRapidDisk 8.2.0 now available • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166283Jun 21 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RapidDisk 8.2.0 now available | Tux MachinesJun 21 11:31
mateyto master linux you must run macosJun 21 11:31
mateyi wouldnt head the linux foundation if i was just going to use openbsd all the timeJun 21 11:32
techrights-newsDNS Toys: Daily use Tools and Utilities over the DNS Protocol • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166284Jun 21 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNS Toys: Daily use Tools and Utilities over the DNS Protocol | Tux MachinesJun 21 11:32
mateyit would be ridiculousJun 21 11:32
techrights-newsMysterious GeckoLinux Creator Reveals a New Debian Remix Distro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166285Jun 21 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mysterious GeckoLinux Creator Reveals a New Debian Remix Distro | Tux MachinesJun 21 11:33
techrights-newsSipeed Lichee RV Dock Pro RISC-V SBC adds MIPI/RGB LCD connector, dual MIC, and BL702 JTAG+UART debugger • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166286Jun 21 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sipeed Lichee RV Dock Pro RISC-V SBC adds MIPI/RGB LCD connector, dual MIC, and BL702 JTAG+UART debugger | Tux MachinesJun 21 11:33
schestowitz_TRmatey: to boss torvalds you need to be unqualifiedJun 21 11:34
schestowitz_TRit makes you vulnerableJun 21 11:34
schestowitz_TRso your corporate masters can sack ytoou any timeJun 21 11:34
schestowitz_TRciting lack of competence Jun 21 11:34
mateyi think theres a simpler explanationJun 21 11:34
schestowitz_TRit's easier to control the conciously unqualifiedJun 21 11:34
mateythe whole thing is just a farceJun 21 11:34
mateyits just marketing and nonsenseJun 21 11:34
mateylaughably soJun 21 11:35
techrights-newsIBM‘s (and others’) front group, the Linux Foundation, does not adhere to its very own supposed ‘principles’, which it keeps lecturing us about http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/linux-foundation-words-hypocrisy/Jun 21 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Words You Cannot Say Unless You Are the Linux Foundation | TechrightsJun 21 11:35
schestowitz_TRmatey: it is NOT even GOOD marketingJun 21 11:35
schestowitz_TRit's as if the objective is to reduce geeks' allureJun 21 11:35
matey"i liked the shavers so much... i grew a beard like those guitar players from texas"Jun 21 11:35
mateyamish linux users groupJun 21 11:36
matey"we dont use linux, but we recommend you do!"Jun 21 11:37
mateylinux farms (a bayer subsidiary)Jun 21 11:39
mateywhat is linux? Jun 21 11:40
mateyat linux farms, we grow linux from seeds to your tableJun 21 11:40
mateylinux is used in cooking and baking, as its oil produces a smooth texture and delicious flavourJun 21 11:41
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166287Jun 21 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TRgo to http://linux.com/Jun 21 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux.com - News For Open Source ProfessionalsJun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TRscroll down a bitJun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TRtell me,Jun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TRis this site about Linux?Jun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TRif now, what is this/"thing"?Jun 21 11:41
schestowitz_TR*if notJun 21 11:41
mateyits about githubJun 21 11:44
mateystarting at the bottom of the listJun 21 11:44
mateyTest API interactions with MockoonJun 21 11:44
mateyJune 2, 2022Jun 21 11:44
mateymockoon: githubJun 21 11:44
mateynext one: interpreting system log files, and more sysadmin tips (systemd, github)Jun 21 11:45
matey5 Vim features for power usersJun 21 11:45
mateyvim: githubJun 21 11:45
mateyHow to install JupyterLab on Linux <- githubJun 21 11:45
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mateyHow we use eBPF <- githubJun 21 11:45
mateymaybe this one isnt github: How to interrupt the Linux boot processJun 21 11:45
mateythough thats probably systemd againJun 21 11:46
mateyits really just a link to the redhat websiteJun 21 11:46
matey"the boot process stops in an emergency maintenance mode."Jun 21 11:47
mateyso its about grub and systemd (the latter of which is github)Jun 21 11:48
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mateyHow to configure Network File System on LinuxJun 21 11:48
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mateyanother red hat articleJun 21 11:48
mateyreally linux.com is just an aggregator for sponsors (from the looks of it)Jun 21 11:49
schestowitz_TRyes!Jun 21 11:49
schestowitz_TRwaitrJun 21 11:49
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/linux-com.pngJun 21 11:49
mateyIf you've got more than one or two workstations, it's inefficient to set up your client machines to recognize NFS volumes by hand. Instead, use Ansible to automate  <- githubJun 21 11:50
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mateyyep, aggregatorJun 21 11:53
mateyso basically its just an engine for diluting the linux trademarkJun 21 11:54
mateyeverything is linuxJun 21 11:54
mateyif i sell tractors to the amish and i give them moneyJun 21 11:54
mateyill get on the front page and say its linuxJun 21 11:54
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/camel-linux.pngJun 21 11:54
mateyeverythingislinux.comJun 21 11:55
mateyhey hey, if i sell ovens to germany, and give money toJun 21 11:55
mateytoo soon?Jun 21 11:55
schestowitz_TRno, 30 minsJun 21 11:56
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schestowitz_TRat 180 degreesJun 21 11:56
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schestowitz_TRit's OK - LFJun 21 11:56
schestowitz_TRthey give "open source" drivers for the ovenJun 21 11:56
schestowitz_TR"it's opn github"Jun 21 11:56
mateynaziwashingJun 21 11:57
mateyTune it Up: Improving Redis Performance for Ampere A1 on Oracle Linux in OCIJun 21 11:57
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/Jun 21 11:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | TechrightsJun 21 11:57
schestowitz_TRdraftJun 21 11:57
mateyredis: ibm + githubJun 21 11:58
schestowitz_TRMicro Business MachinesJun 21 11:58
schestowitz_TRMicrogunsJun 21 11:58
schestowitz_TRminigunsJun 21 11:58
mateyhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/camel-linux.pngJun 21 11:59
mateymicrosoft will buy it eventuallyJun 21 12:00
mateyof course they last time i said that, ibm did insteadJun 21 12:00
schestowitz_TRLT holds the trademarkJun 21 12:00
schestowitz_TRand can leaveJun 21 12:00
mateybut since theyre the same companyJun 21 12:00
schestowitz_TRunlesss...Jun 21 12:00
schestowitz_TR"welll, he's dead"Jun 21 12:00
mateyi think LMI owns itJun 21 12:00
schestowitz_TRLinux MarkJun 21 12:01
schestowitz_TRyeahJun 21 12:01
schestowitz_TRbut who runs that?Jun 21 12:01
schestowitz_TRthey keep saying the person's nameJun 21 12:01
mateyi really think linux is already deadJun 21 12:02
mateynot as a productJun 21 12:02
psydruidThe Linux Group™Jun 21 12:02
mateybut as anything useful to usJun 21 12:02
mateylf is exploiting itJun 21 12:03
psydruidthe illegitimate heir to The Open Group™Jun 21 12:03
mateybut linux volunteered for it to be exploitedJun 21 12:03
techrights-news[Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/Jun 21 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | TechrightsJun 21 12:03
mateylinus ^Jun 21 12:03
mateylie-nusJun 21 12:03
schestowitz_TRto be fair:Jun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRit's usualy not him edenying gnu existedJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRit's people around himJun 21 12:04
mateymmhmmJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRwhat zemlin called "suits"Jun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRwhile he himseflf weara a  tuxJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRnever uses "the tux"Jun 21 12:04
mateyi wont forgive him for that "about hate" shitJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRjust wears oneJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRbecause... "the suits"Jun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRnils torvalds is about hateJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRlook what he did in his youthJun 21 12:04
schestowitz_TRporo-russiaJun 21 12:05
schestowitz_TR*proJun 21 12:05
schestowitz_TRlinus does not want to comment on politicsJun 21 12:05
schestowitz_TRit would quickly land him in troubleJun 21 12:05
mateynils is pro-russia, NOW?Jun 21 12:05
schestowitz_TRlook up torvalds socialism cnnJun 21 12:05
schestowitz_TRthey asked him if linus was socialismJun 21 12:06
schestowitz_TRor he was socialistJun 21 12:06
schestowitz_TRand he started tip-toing all overeJun 21 12:06
psydruidit has merged with The 'Ndrangheta Group™Jun 21 12:06
schestowitz_TR*toeingJun 21 12:06
schestowitz_TRhttps://yewtu.be/vi/isolAS66Puw/mqdefault.jpgJun 21 12:06
schestowitz_TRone month ago: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=isolAS66PuwJun 21 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Could Finland outgun Russia? | Nils Torvalds - InvidiousJun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=dr_jTob_TwAJun 21 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 09 March 2022 plenary speech on security of Europe - InvidiousJun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=2k0jkQMTRDIJun 21 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds EUdebates European security and the EU's role in a changing world - InvidiousJun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRhe has only 53 subscribers in gulagtube https://yewtu.be/channel/UCT_JXe1Xb5JNZqLNfOi3gsgJun 21 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MEP Nils Torvalds - InvidiousJun 21 12:07
mateyim not getting useful resultsJun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRabout the same number of views as spamnilJun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRaround 20Jun 21 12:07
schestowitz_TRmaybe he shoiuld speak to spamnilJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRthese days scsamnil contacts some scammersaJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRthey run clickfarms on his videosJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRno comments, no likesJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRthousands of FAKE viewsJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRI showed rianne and she loledJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRit's veyr easy to seeJun 21 12:08
schestowitz_TRsurprisingly few videosJun 21 12:09
mateylinux.com should have a channel on rutube.ruJun 21 12:09
schestowitz_TRnils is popular in .fiJun 21 12:09
schestowitz_TRand more famous because of his sonJun 21 12:09
schestowitz_TRand yet few videos and subscrbersJun 21 12:09
schestowitz_TRkind of sad, not worth the time it takes him to uploadJun 21 12:10
schestowitz_TRhe had uploaded for nearly 4 yearsJun 21 12:10
schestowitz_TRhis oldest video is stuck at 26 viewsJun 21 12:10
schestowitz_TRFT speaks to the "exprts" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6b89jcNqgJoJun 21 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Henry Kissinger: ‘We are now living in a totally new era’ | FT - InvidiousJun 21 12:11
mateymaybe he should give money to linux.comJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRFT.. funded by billGJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRbribedJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRand by EPO tooJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRFT = mountain of bribesJun 21 12:11
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schestowitz_TRand some subscribersJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRand forced subscriptions through airlinesJun 21 12:11
schestowitz_TRthat put this sepia yellowing paper at the entrance at the planeJun 21 12:12
mateythe ussr really has fallenJun 21 12:12
mateyyoure supposed to put a big throw rug at the entranceJun 21 12:12
mateyi fucking love it when they do thatJun 21 12:13
techrights-news"But suppose that your current directory, /whatever/foo, is a symlink, and some other process has deleted and recreated foo." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-06-21_Go_where_.gmiJun 21 12:14
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=34XymEDY9WcJun 21 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Entering A Mysterious Exclave You've Never Heard Of ( In A Soviet Bi-plane ) - InvidiousJun 21 12:14
schestowitz_TRgood newsJun 21 12:16
schestowitz_TRepo protest next weekJun 21 12:16
mateyhave they unionised yet?Jun 21 12:17
schestowitz_TRyes, before epo even existedJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRepo is like lfJun 21 12:18
mateyand of course epo has fought backJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRit's a merger of thingsJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRit always doesJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRbut much worseJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRthey break tghe law all the timeJun 21 12:18
mateyits a merger of public and private controlJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRwriting articl, bbiabJun 21 12:18
schestowitz_TRmerger of nazi and dutch thingJun 21 12:18
mateywill 2022 be the year of the free software sbcJun 21 12:23
mateysince the linux desktop will never matterJun 21 12:23
schestowitz_TRhahaJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRgood oneJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRand trueJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRrianne uses an sbcJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRas a desktopJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRand another arm laptopJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRshe has two armsJun 21 12:24
mateyso do iJun 21 12:24
psydruidhttps://www.twitter.com/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929Jun 21 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929 )Jun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRthe intel one overheats and beepsJun 21 12:24
mateyborn with themJun 21 12:24
schestowitz_TRa lot in summerJun 21 12:24
mateythe intel one overheats and beeps <- thats nice to knowJun 21 12:25
schestowitz_TRStarFive Technology (@StarFiveTech): "Based on RISC-V ultra-high performance 8-core SoC, what end product do you want? A laptop, a Mini PC&#x2F;NUC, or a development board? Please fill out this questionnaire:http:&#x2F;&#x2F;starfive.mikecrm.com&#x2F;VZ4YhIX and let us help you to make it happen."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929 ䷉ Source: nitterJun 21 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-StarFive Technology (@StarFiveTech): "Based on RISC-V ultra-high performance 8-core SoC, what end product do you want? A laptop, a Mini PC/NUC, or a development board? Please fill out this questionnaire:http://starfive.mikecrm.com/VZ4YhIX and let us help you to make it happen."|nitter.itJun 21 12:25
mateyi really wanted to waste money on one of those at one pointJun 21 12:25
mateyyears agoJun 21 12:25
mateynow i know what it would be like to useJun 21 12:25
schestowitz_TRbrbJun 21 12:25
schestowitz_TRtyping urgent articleJun 21 12:25
XRevan86schestowitz: "can you confirm Rusian media says Windows is banned for download?" <- https://meduza.io/news/2022/06/19/polzovateli-iz-rossii-ne-smogli-skachat-s-sayta-microsoft-utility-dlya-ustanovki-windowsJun 21 12:27
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XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/20/more-than-serious "Russia threatens retaliatory measures after Lithuania bans transit of EU-sanctioned goods to Kaliningrad"Jun 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEJun 21 12:28
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/252412Jun 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Dmitry Muratov sold his Nobel Medal for $103.5 million to aid Ukrainian refugeesJun 21 12:28
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/252416Jun 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Occupation authorities evict Mariupol residents from half-destroyed homes, offer symbolic compensationJun 21 12:28
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/252419Jun 21 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Navalny put in “prison inside prison” to cut him off from communication and news, his daughter saysJun 21 12:29
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/21/a78053Jun 21 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Kremlin Spokesman Says Americans Captured in Ukraine Committed 'Crimes' - The Moscow TimesJun 21 12:29
matey"Russia threatens retaliatory measures"Jun 21 12:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 12:30
mateyget ready lithuania, youre going to have a bunch of tanks with no fuel parked around your main roadsJun 21 12:30
mateyfollowed by soldiers sheepishly carrying tanks of gas and asking for directionsJun 21 12:31
XRevan86The amount of messages written here tonight is overwhelming.Jun 21 12:32
mateywe had a partyJun 21 12:33
XRevan86schestowitz: "this iis very significant if as true as reported in English" <- Not necessarily, it could be a temporary breakage. Significance will become apparent in time.Jun 21 12:35
schestowitz_TRmaybe they make an ENHANCEEE backoodr versionJun 21 12:35
schestowitz_TRwith "SS" for "11"Jun 21 12:35
schestowitz_TRor "ZZ"Jun 21 12:35
schestowitz_TRthe ZvaztikaJun 21 12:36
mateyZWINDOWSJun 21 12:36
mateyVVINDOWS FOR VVICTORYJun 21 12:36
mateyputin is working on another replacment turret, inspired by the terminator and old notebook computersJun 21 12:38
mateythe terminator is an old russian tank with a turret that serves a different purposeJun 21 12:38
mateythis new tank hes making addresses one of the drawbacks of the present situation, inspired by laptops that let you swap out the floppy drive for a second batteryJun 21 12:39
mateythis model, instead of a turret, has a second gas tank as a replacementJun 21 12:39
mateyit can drive around for literally hours without refuelingJun 21 12:40
mateyadmittedly, it cant shoot at very muchJun 21 12:41
mateybut neither can a tank that has no fuel, and this one at least is capable of a retreatJun 21 12:41
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techrights-newsWhere were you all these years, European publishers, intentionally turning a blind eye to EPO crimes? At what point will the public get a feeling that the point of today's press is to COVER UP CRIME instead of covering crime?Jun 21 13:07
mateystallman on ties: Jun 21 13:13
mateyThe people who yield to the pressure to wear ties are victim-coperpetrators: each one who wears a tie at work increases the pressure on others. This is a central concept for understanding other forms of propagating nastiness, including nonfree software and Facebook.Jun 21 13:13
matey"each one who wears a tie at work increases the pressure on others. This is a central concept for understanding other forms of propagating nastiness"Jun 21 13:13
matey"This is a central concept"Jun 21 13:13
mateystallman on the open spanish inquisition that has dismantled the movement he founded:Jun 21 13:14
matey""Jun 21 13:14
mateyevidence of the real stallman, circa whenever he wrote that about tiesJun 21 13:14
mateyhttps://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/Jun 21 13:15
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mateyto describe his lifestyle, he started with music http://web.archive.org/web/20100612210610/http://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.htmlJun 21 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | LifeStyleJun 21 13:19
mateya year later he had added "home" and "food"Jun 21 13:19
mateythe stuff about ties was added between 2011 and 2012Jun 21 13:20
techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288Jun 21 13:26
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techrights-newsPhysical Demonstration at the EPO’s Headquarters and the Staff Explains Why | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/Jun 21 13:26
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techrights-news[Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/Jun 21 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | TechrightsJun 21 13:40
techrights-news"Daniel Ellsberg discusses the significance of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the growing danger of nuclear war with U.S. and NATO." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/20/daniel-ellsberg-on-nuclear-war-and-ukraine/Jun 21 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Daniel Ellsberg on Nuclear War and Ukraine – scheerpost.comJun 21 13:42
techrights-news"I have been here in Ft Worth since last Friday. It has been over 100 degrees F for most of that time." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20220620.gmiJun 21 13:43
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techrights-news17 techrights posts the past 24 hours. Highest ever was 29 or 31 (cannot remember; it was 2009 or 2010)Jun 21 13:56
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 15:30
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1801287Jun 21 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/gcj7tqq8nib01.jpg created on 2018-01-28 02:15:08.565985Jun 21 15:41
mateyI seem to remember Jimmy Wales getting involved in the namingJun 21 15:41
mateycontroversy on Wikipedia, saying somewhere that almost every instanceJun 21 15:41
mateyof "Linux" on Wikipedia should be GNU/Linux instead. This was a numberJun 21 15:41
mateyof years ago.Jun 21 15:41
mateyDid I make that up? I can't find any references for it anymore. -- Greg Farough // Campaigns Manager https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00004.htmlJun 21 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Wikipedia extolled as an aide for getting history correctJun 21 15:41
mateythis was quite interesting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00003.htmlJun 21 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Wikipedia extolled as an aide for getting history correctJun 21 15:42
mateythe importance of getting history rightJun 21 15:42
mateyand its relevance to operations in something like the fsfJun 21 15:43
mateywith all the history being rewritten, both in the movement and (as the author mentions) in russiaJun 21 15:43
matey<yrk> moreover, and to the chagrin of rule-minded programmers, licenses are not Jun 21 15:47
mateycode, and judges are not machines. people interpret licenses, sometimes they Jun 21 15:47
mateyget challenged, and sometimes they don'tJun 21 15:47
mateyhttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00000.htmlJun 21 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | How does the System Library Exception work, when the GPL-covered work isJun 21 15:47
mateylicenses are not code, and judges are not machines. people interpret licenses, sometimes they get challenged, and sometimes they don't <- i strongly agree with thisJun 21 15:48
mateylicenses are "code" of a sort thoughJun 21 15:48
mateybut not in the same way as other "code" and that is the authors pointJun 21 15:48
mateylessig of course, wrote an entire book on the theme of rules = codeJun 21 15:48
mateyim not sure these disputes negate his points, but they would certainly throw a wrench into a shallow intepretation of them Jun 21 15:49
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/21/a78060Jun 21 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Moscow Vows ‘Serious Consequences’ for Lithuania Over Kaliningrad Rail Ban - The Moscow TimesJun 21 15:50
matey<yrk> for the recond, I think that copyright law is anachronistic and Jun 21 15:50
mateyill-conceived. but it is what we have right now...Jun 21 15:50
matey<Andrew> true...Jun 21 15:50
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mateyrussian oligarchy: serious businessJun 21 15:52
mateyhttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oligarchy-countriesJun 21 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-worldpopulationreview.com | Oligarchy Countries 2022Jun 21 15:54
matey"An oligarchy is a governmental system in which teh government"Jun 21 15:55
mateyhttps://questionablecontent.net/comics/2.pngJun 21 15:55
matey"is controlled by a small group of people, or oligarchs."Jun 21 15:55
mateyOne of the most well-known oligarchies is Russia, which historians say has been ruled by one authoritative oligarchy or another since at least the 1400s. The dissolution of the Soviet Union from roughly 1988-1991 was a particular flashpoint for oligarchy, because it enabled a small group of wealthy individuals (mostly bankers) to gain controlling interest of many of the country's most valuable resources and utilities (such as oil fields).Jun 21 15:56
matey"This resulted in a situation in which politicians ruled the country, but the oligarchs ruled the politicians."Jun 21 15:57
mateyFor example, Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2020 spearheaded a constitutional amendment that, among other things, reset his term limit so he could conceivably remain president until 2036Jun 21 15:57
mateywe have to make sure russia never becomes 64-bit or we are in real troubleJun 21 15:58
mateyif they upgrade, putins term limit could last another 292 billion yearsJun 21 15:59
mateythats the bad newsJun 21 15:59
mateythe good news is that with putin at the helm, the chances of russia having 64 bits to spare is exceedingly smallJun 21 16:00
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mateyBecause "oligarchy" is a slightly amorphous, subjective term, there is no definitive list of which countries are and are not oligarchies. However, a strong case could be made for each of the following countries: China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, United States (debated), Venezuela, and Zimbabwe.Jun 21 16:07
AdmFubarhttps://www.alternet.org/2022/06/billionaire-tax/Jun 21 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet the billionaire and rising GOP mega-donor who’s gaming the tax system - Alternet.orgJun 21 16:08
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XRevan86https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1539108484859547655Jun 21 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Kremlin propagandists sound pretty put out with my reporting that exposes their vile threats and warmongering conversations to the Western world. They also resent the headlines calling them names they don't like [Putin's cronies, puppets, stooges]. Oh well, if the shoe fits..."|nitterJun 21 16:14
XRevan86So cute.Jun 21 16:15
mateyif the shoe fitsJun 21 16:24
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22061369Jun 21 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6t16uacr8c491.jpg created on 2022-06-13 23:24:42.445233Jun 21 16:28
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XRevan86https://t.me/mcxrd/1765 I predict a great future to this little clip.Jun 21 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @mcxrdJun 21 17:00
MinceRhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/vh9peo/just_pushed_my_first_pr_for_my_new_job_at/Jun 21 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Just pushed my first PR for my new job at Cloudflare! : ProgrammerHumorJun 21 17:01
MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/4vqoE21.mp4Jun 21 17:14
techrights-news2022-06-21 🔤SpellBinding: AZILOPE Wordo: ADDED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-21.gmiJun 21 17:15
mateyfake? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=umQL37AC_YMJun 21 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "I've never installed gnu/linux" - Richard Stallman - InvidiousJun 21 17:16
mateyim on the fence but looks realJun 21 17:17
techrights-newsThis Open-Source Project Proves Chrome Extensions Can Track You • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166289Jun 21 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Open-Source Project Proves Chrome Extensions Can Track You | Tux MachinesJun 21 17:17
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166290Jun 21 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 17:18
mateyi had to play it back more than once, but the thing is i can see him saying thatJun 21 17:20
techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.25.1, Bugfix Release for June http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288#comment-34082Jun 21 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved | Tux MachinesJun 21 17:20
mateynot that the technology doesnt exist to fake that now. in the future im sure he will say "i huff kittens"Jun 21 17:20
matey"i dont have any kittens but if i did, i huff them sometimes"Jun 21 17:20
MinceR"the orange ones fuck you up real good"Jun 21 17:21
matey"you should only huff free kittens, because non-free kittens dont respect your freedom"Jun 21 17:21
mateyof course theres no such thing as free kittens, but it turns out they 1. have a proprietary design 2. cost twice as much as other proprietary kittens despite being older 3. really are only called that because theyre known to be compatible with free driversJun 21 17:22
MinceR"eat free kids"Jun 21 17:22
mateychildren left unattended will be given a cappucino and free operating systemJun 21 17:24
MinceR:)Jun 21 17:24
mateyor as i like to call it systemd minus gnuJun 21 17:25
MinceRthat's not a free operating system :(Jun 21 17:26
MinceRcould be an fsf-"free" operating system thoughJun 21 17:27
mateynor a free software foundationJun 21 17:27
mateybut its a formerly free operating systemJun 21 17:27
MinceRas long as it makes certain software difficult to installJun 21 17:27
mateyand a former software foundationJun 21 17:27
mateynow its the gnu water bottle foundationJun 21 17:27
MinceR(that is an important requirement for fsf-"free" operating systems)Jun 21 17:27
mateytheres a blunt that goes with those sunglassesJun 21 17:28
mateydid the gnu eat it, or are the people who added that to the tshirts smoking it?Jun 21 17:28
mateyso many things theyve done, wouldnt be so egregiousJun 21 17:29
mateyif they werent after gutting the entire thingJun 21 17:29
mateyafter doing fuck-all to fight for years at a timeJun 21 17:29
mateynow its like welp, doesnt matter now!Jun 21 17:29
mateydraw a funny moustache on him tooJun 21 17:29
mateygive him buck teethJun 21 17:30
mateyits a joke now anywayJun 21 17:30
mateyeasier to join in the fun when you dont have to swear an oath to lieplanet firstJun 21 17:30
mateyI SOLUMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE DOUBLE STANDARDS OF IBM NOW GIVE MY GNU SUNGLASSESJun 21 17:31
mateyare you now or have you ever been a poster on 4chan?Jun 21 17:31
matey"is it true, mr nixon, that ten years ago you said people should be raped with a text editor?"Jun 21 17:32
matey"no, thats not what i said"Jun 21 17:33
matey"well what did you say they should be violated with?"Jun 21 17:33
matey"the aristihub!"Jun 21 17:33
mateyyou know the worst part about the gnu wearing pixel-art sunglasses?Jun 21 17:35
mateyjason robinson, the grand inquisitor of the socialhoneypotiverse, wore them on his avatar for YEARSJun 21 17:36
mateyand he signed the letterJun 21 17:36
mateyso now the gnu looks like jason fucking robinsonJun 21 17:36
matey(at least theyre not in colour)Jun 21 17:36
matey/me checks to see if the gnu head signed the letter too (or someone signed it for him)Jun 21 17:37
matey/me says "fuck it whatever" and just puts gnu horns on snoopy insteadJun 21 17:39
mateyi think peanuts has fared betterJun 21 17:40
mateyeven if charlie brown and stallman have similar tailorsJun 21 17:40
matey"you blockhead! i stayed out here all night waiting for the great distro!"Jun 21 17:41
mateygood griefJun 21 17:42
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=MHh-j-1-zcMJun 21 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How Richard Stallman and I failed to protect the web from the man who invented it - CubaConf 2017 - InvidiousJun 21 17:43
*schestowitz_TR backJun 21 17:46
mateykids in the hall makes snl look tameJun 21 17:49
mateythen again sometimes mister rogers neighbourhood makes snl look tameJun 21 17:50
techrights-newsWhy EPO Scandals (and Next Week’s Protest) Are a Very Big Deal | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/Jun 21 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why EPO Scandals (and Next Week’s Protest) Are a Very Big Deal | TechrightsJun 21 17:51
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=3njtkgHPbpIJun 21 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kids in the Hall - Give me a tea you bastard - InvidiousJun 21 18:02
matey(unrelated to earlier comment, this one is just silly)Jun 21 18:03
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techrights-news[Meme] EPO Funding Microsoft and the War Against Ukraine | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/Jun 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Funding Microsoft and the War Against Ukraine | TechrightsJun 21 18:20
techrights-news"OP is correct that there’s enough documentation and software out there to get moving. The community seems adrift though. I couldn’t figure out where the main protocol repo is, for example." gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/494Jun 21 18:23
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techrights-newslow bandwidth lifestyle gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/low-bandwidth-lifestyleJun 21 18:24
schestowitz"Summertime Summertime summer summer time time by The BustersJun 21 18:26
schestowitz" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1025Jun 21 18:26
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techrights-newspvr: Add TI AM62 as a supported device. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=62cc9bba06a1a3479558267e70f46e321f73f486Jun 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)Jun 21 18:28
techrights-newsMichael Larabel i still running AMD ads, no connection to Linux!!! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-Embedded-R2000 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/Jun 21 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Announces Ryzen Embedded R2000 Series With Zen+ Cores, Radeon Graphics - PhoronixJun 21 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | TechrightsJun 21 18:29
mateyfi wonder if nina paley feels good about being allied with people like this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qrKABoYiE20Jun 21 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | BANNING DRAG SHOWS FOR CHILDREN? - InvidiousJun 21 18:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 18:30
mateyi mean its complete hypocrisy, im 100% certain thats alex jones in a wig and makeupJun 21 18:30
techrights-newsThe site that was once a hub for GNU/Linux news has become just Linux Foundation trash; it’s not even about Linux anymore http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/Jun 21 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | TechrightsJun 21 18:30
mateymy favourite is when she shows her sponsor thoughJun 21 18:32
mateyobviously moved up from male enhancement and letters from the nigerian finance ministerJun 21 18:32
techrights-newsEPO staff is sick and tired of abuse and corruption at the employer, which was supposed to serve Europe and to serve science (instead if became like a secretive private bank that violates every law it wants to) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/Jun 21 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Physical Demonstration at the EPO’s Headquarters and the Staff Explains Why | TechrightsJun 21 18:33
techrights-newsNobody at the EPO is dumb enough to be fooled by the charlatan António Campinos, who refers to himself as “the f***ing president” (no kidding; the Hubris is humongous) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/Jun 21 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | TechrightsJun 21 18:33
techrights-newsIn the video above I go through the document explaining “internal” EPO scandals (directed towards staff) and there’s still time to contact European politicians and media; there’s no valid excuse for turning a blind eye http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/Jun 21 18:33
techrights-newsThe EPO‘s Belarusian blunder (more below) is still 100% uncovered — as in NOT covered — by the mainstream media (or any site other than Techrights for that matter) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/Jun 21 18:33
techrights-newsYukika goes under a "ubuntu" label (Japanese/Korean) https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/music/yukika-new-digital-single-scent-3252229Jun 21 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Yukika announces new single '향기'Jun 21 18:35
techrights-news"Canonical’s Ubuntu Core 22, the fully containerized Ubuntu 22.04 LTS variant optimized for IoT and edge devices," http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34084Jun 21 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux MachinesJun 21 18:37
techrights-newsEyes on Kenya: government must uphold commitment to connectivity during elections - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/kenya-government-internet-connectivity-elections/ militarisation and weaponisation of the Internet by FOREIGN nations has RIGHTLY led to suspicions of it.Jun 21 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Eyes on Kenya: government must uphold commitment to connectivity during elections - Access NowJun 21 18:39
techrights-newsIn a bittersweet ruling, EU Court of Justice allows EU-wide border surveillance scheme but clarifies its limits - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/eu-court-of-justice-ruling-pnr-directive/ ䷉ Source: accessnowJun 21 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | In a bittersweet ruling, EU Court of Justice allows EU-wide border surveillance scheme but clarifies its limits - Access NowJun 21 18:39
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techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.25.1 (First Point Release) Brings 50+ Changes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166291Jun 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25.1 (First Point Release) Brings 50+ Changes | Tux MachinesJun 21 18:40
techrights-newsMicrosoft FUD buddies Snyk connected to Jim Zemlin and his fellow kakistocrats https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/21/2465876/0/en/New-Research-from-Snyk-and-The-Linux-Foundation-Reveals-Significant-Security-Concerns-Resulting-from-Open-Source-Software-Ubiquity.html LF is Linux-hosile because... FOLLOW THE MONEYJun 21 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | New Research from Snyk and The Linux Foundation RevealsJun 21 18:45
techrights-newsIntroduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292Jun 21 18:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux MachinesJun 21 18:47
techrights-news20 Useful Security Features and Tools for Linux Admins ⚓ https://www.tecmint.com/security-features-tools-linux-admins/ ䷉ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | LinuxJun 21 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 20 Useful Security Features and Tools for Linux AdminsJun 21 18:49
techrights-newsVery little value for money. You're subsidising evil ICBM... NOT GNU/Linux development. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/rhel-subscription-managerJun 21 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to use Subscription Manager on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Enable SysadminJun 21 18:51
techrights-news"According to a SurveyMonkey study"... STUDY? Those are NOT studies but roll-out-your-own propaganda. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-leadership-6-questions-mentors-should-ask-menteesJun 21 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT leadership: 6 questions mentors should ask mentees | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 21 18:53
techrights-news"Clown consultants" sounds like a paradox. Either you're a clown or you're a real consultant rather than a poser and imposter (reseller of junk and "clown" diagrams) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/cloud-consultants-4-questions-ask-about-your-strategyJun 21 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Cloud consultants: 4 questions to ask about your strategy | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 21 18:55
techrights-newsSabine Soellheim and SUSE CEO: we work for SAP but we receive our salary from this "Linux" thing called "SUSE" (we don't know what it stands for and what it does!) https://www.suse.com/c/why-data-management-strategies-are-so-important-for-you/Jun 21 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Data Management Strategies Are So Important For You | SUSE CommunitiesJun 21 18:58
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techrights-newsICBM Red Hat... Microsoft ShitHub (we don't value your freedom.... we keep saying "open") https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/21/distributed-tracing-opentelemetry-knative-and-quarkusJun 21 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Distributed tracing with OpenTelemetry, Knative, and Quarkus | Red Hat DeveloperJun 21 18:59
techrights-news"The Operations Team is the only team that can touch the production systems." https://opensource.com/article/22/6/effective-incident-response-site-reliability-engineersJun 21 19:01
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XRevan86https://t.me/chtede/51132 Cowards from the Ministry of Agriculture of Dagestan removed the video with the Z-sheeps.Jun 21 19:04
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XRevan86So I have to post it again, with a re-upload.Jun 21 19:04
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techrights-newsFedora 2012: community = free software enthusiasts. Fedora 2022: community = ICBM staff. CentOS 2018: community = ICBM staff. CentOS 2022: community = nobody, just seat fillers.Jun 21 19:28
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techrights-newsRed Hat / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166293Jun 21 19:28
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techrights-newsWonder and Feeling Clever – alternatives to "subverting expectations" gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/wonder.gmiJun 21 19:31
AdmFubarhttps://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/fbi-says-fraud-on-linkedin-a-significant-threat-to-platform-and-consumers.htmlJun 21 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | FBI says fraud on LinkedIn a 'significant threat' to platform and consumersJun 21 19:31
techrights-newsNoromo gemini://idiomdrottning.org/noromoJun 21 19:31
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schestowitz_TRMicrosoft itself is significant threatJun 21 19:32
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22061312Jun 21 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9s59tnq9o9591.jpg created on 2022-06-13 04:09:49.722666Jun 21 19:32
schestowitz_TRhttp://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/Jun 21 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | TechrightsJun 21 19:32
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AdmFubarI say someone was on drugs when they made this ad campaign!     https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/say-sliders-to-drugs/Jun 21 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Say Sliders to Drugs'? Real Sign Mocks Fake TMNT Meme | Snopes.comJun 21 19:36
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166294Jun 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 21 19:37
schestowitz_TRAdmFubar: they sure got attention/exposureJun 21 19:39
schestowitz_TRthat's a strategy sometimesJun 21 19:39
techrights-newsLinks 21/06/2022: RapidDisk 8.2.0 and KDE Plasma 5.25.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/kde-plasma-5-25-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/kde-plasma-5-25-1/Jun 21 19:42
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AdmFubaryeah just not the one they were after..Jun 21 19:43
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MinceRhttps://files.shittyurl.org/raw/945ym603.pngJun 21 19:47
techrights-newsSecurity and FUD Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295Jun 21 19:47
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techrights-newsHow to Create LaTeX Documents with Emacs https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-latex-documents-with-emacs/Jun 21 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Create LaTeX Documents with Emacs - Make Tech EasierJun 21 19:50
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techrights-newsKDE Plasma 5.25.1 Fixes Frustrating Linux Desktop Bugs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288#comment-34088Jun 21 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:08
techrights-news"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5OueYKJaP9wJun 21 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition overview | OS for everyone. - InvidiousJun 21 20:08
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166296Jun 21 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:09
techrights-newsJonathan Riddell: Scotland should leave the UK. Also: OpenUK is great https://jriddell.org/2022/06/21/openuk-awards-2022/Jun 21 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | OpenUK Awards 2022 – Jonathan Esk-Riddell's DiaryJun 21 20:10
techrights-newsWhat OpenUK did with OSI tarnishes its name: http://techrights.org/2022/05/02/osi-is-bought/Jun 21 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Look From the Inside: Open Source Initiative’s Voting Process is a Sham, Large Corporations Are in Charge | TechrightsJun 21 20:11
techrights-newsAdriaan de Groot: "The KDE Community has used – and gently encouraged – the Fiduciary License Agreement (FLA) which was created by the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) some 15 years ago." When FSFE did something useful. https://euroquis.nl//kde/2022/06/21/fla.htmlJun 21 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | FLA Two | [bobulate]Jun 21 20:12
techrights-newsMicrosoft bribes GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166130#comment-34087Jun 21 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI and GNOME (and Microsoft Bribes) | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:12
techrights-newsSpamnil = LF megaphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34086Jun 21 20:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:13
techrights-newsTrueNAS "SCALE" 22.02.2 is out, but the TrueNAS site is technically defunct. No reason I should have to download nearly 15,000,000 bytes just to render this page: https://www.truenas.com/Jun 21 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TrueNAS Open Storage | ZFS for the Home to the Data CenterJun 21 20:15
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techrights-newsExploitable remotely https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-02Jun 21 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | JTEKT TOYOPUC | CISAJun 21 20:16
techrights-news"This is a great opportunity to connect with your fellow Fedorans and receive some amazing Fedora swag." Will ICBM give them NFTs? Will slaves be paid in panda PNGs? Or clothes made in sweatshots (other slaves)? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/hatch-with-fedora/Jun 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Hatch – Fedora Community BlogJun 21 20:18
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techrights-newsAlmost ALL the BIGGEST flaws are in proprietary software, NOT in Free software. Guess what corrupted, bribed corporate media pays far more attention to...Jun 21 20:19
techrights-news"Knock knock"..."who's there?" CVSS v3 9.8! (Out of 10) Equipment: SIMATIC WinCC OA https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-06Jun 21 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Siemens WinCC OA | CISAJun 21 20:20
techrights-newsDon't worry, lads. The world's systems will be secure. They'll be secured by people with a degree in genetics. And EPO will be run by bankers.Jun 21 20:21
techrights-newsYou should not have to pay this much for it. Use RockyLinux instead. Don't pay ICBM while it is ATTACKING the community. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-insights-launches-new-recommendations-keep-application-streams-runningJun 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Insights launches new recommendations to keep Application Streams runningJun 21 20:23
techrights-newsLinux [sic] Foundation now works with Microsoft to spread FUD and distract from Microsoft's back/bug doors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34089Jun 21 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:24
techrights-newsLinux [sic] Foundation is named after the thing it is oppressing if not attackingJun 21 20:25
psydroid2https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-to-remove-ability-to-install-win-11-pro-without-being-online-and-signing-in-to-microsoft-account.2017854/Jun 21 20:27
techrights-newsRed Hat CEO did not quit ICBM because he was at age of retirement. He quit ICBM because even as ICBM PRESIDENT he saw what a dead end the company was...Jun 21 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardforum.com | Microsoft to Remove Ability to Install Win 11 Pro Without Being Online and Signing in to Microsoft Account | [H]ard|ForumJun 21 20:27
psydroid2the BS in this thread is enormousJun 21 20:27
schestowitz_TRpsydroid2: I posted the same link some days ago,, iircJun 21 20:27
psydroid2with people paid to apologise for MicrosoftJun 21 20:27
schestowitz_TRmicropsoft shoots its own footJun 21 20:27
schestowitz_TRand it is pissing off a lot of peopleJun 21 20:27
psydroid2schestowitz_TR, I read it because you posted it hereJun 21 20:27
schestowitz_TRsome move to gnu/linuxJun 21 20:27
schestowitz_TRah, makes sense nowJun 21 20:28
schestowitz_TRwell, micerosoft pays for the shillsJun 21 20:28
schestowitz_TRunless they are mvpsJun 21 20:28
schestowitz_TRin which case they are usefuil idiotcs of organised crime syndidcateJun 21 20:28
schestowitz_TRfighting to maintain some installbase fiorot them to "support"Jun 21 20:28
psydroid2but it's good to see that they're losing the narrative also or maybe especially in the USJun 21 20:29
techrights-newsMozilla quit being a technical company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/joey-amato-publisher-of-pride-journeys-shares-what-brings-him-joy-online/ see http://techrights.org/2022/06/13/mozilla-politics-blog/Jun 21 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Joey Amato, Publisher of Pride Journeys, Shares What Brings Him Joy OnlineJun 21 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla, Just Like the Linux Foundation, Has Turned to Politics at Firefox’s Expense | TechrightsJun 21 20:30
techrights-newsMozilla is pushing spyware instead of Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/reflecting-on-10-years-of-time-well-spent-with-pocket/Jun 21 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Reflecting on 10 years of time well spent with PocketJun 21 20:31
techrights-newsMozilla now makes a semi-apology for mass surveillance https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/understanding-apples-private-click-measurement/Jun 21 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Understanding Apple’s Private Click MeasurementJun 21 20:32
techrights-newsevery now and then Mozilla openly admits it does not value users' privacy, causing an uproar that can take years to quell or calm down while Firefox keeps losing millions of users every month https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/reflecting-on-10-years-of-time-well-spent-with-pocket/Jun 21 20:33
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techrights-newsCan Gulag purchase enough popcorn from the supply chain? To watch how Mozilla destroys itself?Jun 21 20:35
techrights-newsMozilla is a bloated company with a bloated browser, having become accustomed to bloated budget from Gulag (which comes with super-bloated strings)Jun 21 20:36
techrights-newsExploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-01Jun 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC Q and L Series | CISAJun 21 20:37
techrights-newsRISC-V 3D GPU https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/15/2462749/0/en/Think-Silicon-to-Unveil-Industry-s-First-RISC-V-3D-GPU-at-Embedded-World-2022.html?s=09Jun 21 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Think Silicon to Unveil Industry’s First RISC-V 3D GPU atJun 21 20:38
techrights-news"Rust support being such an exciting feature and judging by the past timing, I think the first kernel with merged Rust support should be called 6.0." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1329923-linus-torvalds-rust-for-the-kernel-could-possibly-be-merged-for-linux-5-20 Linus quit leading Linus http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/Jun 21 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds: Rust For The Kernel Could Possibly Be Merged For Linux 5.20 - Phoronix ForumsJun 21 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | TechrightsJun 21 20:40
techrights-newsLinux 6.0: Microsoft GitHub down. Cannot release Linux.Jun 21 20:41
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22061310Jun 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ybZ9z4T.jpg created on 2022-06-13 03:09:59.296251Jun 21 20:42
techrights-newsWho pays for Microsoft to buy GitHub, Skype etc.? The US TAXPAYER: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/Jun 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | TechrightsJun 21 20:42
techrights-newsRISC OS is 35 but it’s still kicking • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166297Jun 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC OS is 35 but it's still kicking | Tux MachinesJun 21 20:42
techrights-news7 summer book recommendations from open source enthusiasts https://opensource.com/article/22/6/2022-opensourcecom-summer-reading-listJun 21 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 summer book recommendations from open source enthusiasts | Opensource.comJun 21 20:44
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techrights-news"The Central Bank of Austria has published a report in the context of a workshop celebrating 20 years of Euro-denominated cash. The report discusses the future of cash, including account- and blockchain-based designs, as well as GNU Taler." https://taler.net/en/news/2022-07.htmlJun 21 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taler.net | GNU TalerJun 21 20:45
techrights-newsan optimistic evacuation of my wordhoard -- wingolog ⚓ https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/06/21/an-optimistic-evacuation-of-my-wordhoard ䷉ Source: wingologJun 21 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wingolog.org | an optimistic evacuation of my wordhoard -- wingologJun 21 20:46
techrights-news"Reducing the power to tech monopolies would do more to “fix” the Internet than any other single action, and I am generally in favor of them both." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/hidden-anti-cryptography-provisions-in-internet-anti-trust-bills.htmlJun 21 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hidden Anti-Cryptography Provisions in Internet Anti-Trust Bills - Schneier on SecurityJun 21 20:47
techrights-newsAtari ST - What a computer. gemini://blog.datapulp.de/atari-st-what-a-computerJun 21 20:50
techrights-newsHere we go AGAIN. It's PROPRIETARY software: CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-05Jun 21 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact Classic Line Industrial Controllers | CISAJun 21 20:51
techrights-newsCVSS v3 9.8 AGAIN https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-04 Proprietary junkJun 21 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact ProConOS and MULTIPROG | CISAJun 21 20:51
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techrights-newsCVSS v3 9.8 a third time! "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an attacker to upload logic with arbitrary code." Media coverage will be NOTHING. Because it's NOT "Open Source" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-03Jun 21 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact Classic Line Controllers | CISAJun 21 20:53
techrights-newsLinux Foundation does not protect us from FUD; instead it participates in the FUDJun 21 20:54
techrights-newsRISC-V Announces First New Specifications of 2022, Adding to 16 Ratified in 2021 | RISC-V International https://riscv.org/announcements/2022/06/risc-v-announces-first-new-specifications-of-2022-adding-to-16-ratified-in-2021-risc-v-international/Jun 21 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-riscv.org | RISC-V Announces First New Specifications of 2022, Adding to 16 Ratified in 2021 | RISC-V International - RISC-V InternationalJun 21 20:54
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XRevan86https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1539326751104733184Jun 21 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian state pokes fun at their favorite, mocking Trump's promise not to ever ride a bike: "How about going down a ramp?" Another barb follows: "What if Biden chokes on a hamburger? Will you swear off hamburgers?" Then they all laugh at Trump with toilet paper stuck to his shoe."|nitterJun 21 20:56
techrights-newsTo use an analogy, the 'Linux' Foundation is the Trump-funded Tolerance Foundation and BP-sponsored Conservation Alliance. Ignore the name/words, check the actual operandi.Jun 21 20:56
schestowitz_TRsounds like gossip talk from JuliaJun 21 20:57
schestowitz_TRwhile people dieJun 21 20:57
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MinceRpeople die, things breakJun 21 20:57
XRevan86schestowitz: Rather, she quotes the gossip talk.Jun 21 20:58
schestowitz_TRyeahJun 21 20:58
schestowitz_TRdistracts from the war crimes, imhoJun 21 20:58
schestowitz_TRsocial control media is favouring such spoon-feedingJun 21 20:58
schestowitz_TRfor clicksJun 21 20:58
schestowitz_TR"engagement"Jun 21 20:58
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schestowitz_TRthey call it "algotalk"Jun 21 20:59
XRevan86To me it's just bizarre, Zhuravlyov found it hilarious.Jun 21 20:59
MinceRthe war crimes are only relevant if someone with the power is actually willing to invade orcland, cripple their warmaking capabilities, arrest putler and all UR members and punish them for their crimesJun 21 20:59
schestowitz_TRmaybe even Russia does this specifically to divide the USJun 21 20:59
schestowitz_TRbased on jokesJun 21 20:59
schestowitz_TRand use social control media to make phony scandalsJun 21 20:59
MinceRand make sure orcland will never again have the ability to wage warJun 21 20:59
schestowitz_TRwhile they kil peopleJun 21 20:59
XRevan86https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/21/15-people-killed-in-russian-attacks-on-ukraines-kharkiv-region-news "15 people killed in Russian attacks on Ukraine’s Kharkiv region"Jun 21 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. ЕвропаJun 21 20:59
MinceRit's pointless to talk about war crimes much if the people who could do something about it are unwilling to do soJun 21 21:00
schestowitz_TRthe west likes the warJun 21 21:00
schestowitz_TRit's exploitd to the fullestJun 21 21:00
schestowitz_TRSleepy Jojo has just giveen a ton of money to military contreactorsdJun 21 21:00
schestowitz_TRother than MicrosoftJun 21 21:00
schestowitz_TRthey will lobby to carry onJun 21 21:00
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schestowitz_TRno war, less profitsJun 21 21:01
schestowitz_TRthat also helps them feed us price hikesJun 21 21:01
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XRevan86The problem is that a lot of the war crimes are more-of-the-same, so one stops paying attention.Jun 21 21:01
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schestowitz_TRpaying attention to toilet paper-on-shoe joke won't helpJun 21 21:01
schestowitz_TRlike obama with the mustard-coloured suitJun 21 21:01
schestowitz_TRand murdoch hive talking about it for agesJun 21 21:02
XRevan86schestowitz: I got a pretty much opposite impression, that even to this today, European countries are unwilling to provide sufficient military backing.Jun 21 21:03
XRevan86* to this dayJun 21 21:03
schestowitz_TRThat's EuropeJun 21 21:08
schestowitz_TRUS knows Eurpe standa to sufferJun 21 21:08
schestowitz_TRUS is very far awayJun 21 21:08
schestowitz_TRUS just supplies (sells) weaponsJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRgraftJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRtaxpayers' money to warlordsJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRUSSA is finishedJun 21 21:09
XRevan86The US is also not really able to provide enough.Jun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRit'll continue to existJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRlike Russia after USSRJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRbut it'll be poor and failingJun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRand run by despot (maybe despots... if the main despot dies)Jun 21 21:09
schestowitz_TRthose who can, will leave..Jun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TR<XRevan86> The US is also not really able to provide enough.Jun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TRmaybe "supply chain" issue ;-)Jun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TRI reckon many US weapons nowadays have microchips in them that are imported from chinaJun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TRthe drone missiles have sony camerasJun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TRjapanJun 21 21:10
schestowitz_TRbut made in china obviouslyJun 21 21:11
schestowitz_TRyou cannot have your new cars because the components go (instead) into weapons that blow up the componentsJun 21 21:11
schestowitz_TRthat's US "efficiency"Jun 21 21:11
schestowitz_TRSony was not upset about these salesJun 21 21:12
schestowitz_TRbut about the media finding outJun 21 21:12
schestowitz_TRas it makes sony seem like military contractor tied to assassinationJun 21 21:12
schestowitz_TRof kids, dogs, etc. and illegal actions, too.Jun 21 21:13
schestowitz_TRbut japan isn't known for valuing life anywayJun 21 21:13
techrights-newsSolidRun releases SOM module based on 64-bit Renesas RZ/G2LC SoC ⚓ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ ䷉ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | LinuxJun 21 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ )Jun 21 21:17
techrights-news"Senior Director, Diversity and Inclusion." Painting criminals as "ethical" is job title now. https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/open-source-community-gather-la-scale-19xJun 21 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Open Source Community to Gather in LA for SCALE 19x | Linux JournalJun 21 21:20
techrights-newsCompanies become a lot more evil when they start hiring lawyers and other "bullshit jobs" instead of people who actually deliver core servicesJun 21 21:21
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/CiQQuC5.jpegJun 21 21:23
techrights-newsLinux has a new authenticator app, and it’s easy enough for anyone to use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165920#comment-34091Jun 21 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use Authenticator to Generate Two-Factor Authentication Codes on Linux | Tux MachinesJun 21 21:26
techrights-news2021 Annual Survey Report | Inside Rust Blog ⚓ https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/06/21/survey-2021-report.html ䷉ Source: rust-langJun 21 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | 2021 Annual Survey Report | Inside Rust BlogJun 21 21:28
techrights-newsThis Tool Enables Live Clock on Wallpaper of Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME 42 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166298Jun 21 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Tool Enables Live Clock on Wallpaper of Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME 42 | Tux MachinesJun 21 21:29
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 21 21:30
techrights-newsEmbedded Git lib ted "You pig !!" 35-54W ... for a CPU alone https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/21/amd-ryzen-embedded-r2000-series-processors-with-up-to-four-cores-quad-display-support/Jun 21 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | AMD unveils Ryzen Embedded R2000 Series processors with up to four cores, quad-display support - CNX SoftwareJun 21 21:35
schestowitz_TRpsydroid2: start your engines!!Jun 21 21:35
psydroid2I'm running to the store as we speak!Jun 21 21:36
techrights-newsRISC/ARM: nice lean meal. x86: here, have 12 small packs of potato chips. Enjoy your "meal"...Jun 21 21:37
techrights-newsSteam Deck: look at all the polygons we render. But AMD/x86 is a hog, so you must plug that 'handheld' back into the socket after 60 minutes...Jun 21 21:38
techrights-newsEven my gamegear in the mid 90s had better battery life than steam dreck.Jun 21 21:40
psydroid2the worst part is that these AMD chips aren't that much faster than ARM chips with a fraction of the power consumptionJun 21 21:41
psydroid2https://browser.geekbench.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=8cx+gen+3Jun 21 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browser.geekbench.com | Geekbench Search - Geekbench BrowserJun 21 21:41
psydroid2https://browser.geekbench.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ryzen+5300gJun 21 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browser.geekbench.com | Geekbench Search - Geekbench BrowserJun 21 21:41
techrights-newsTech 'progress': "phones" that need to be charged every day instead of once a week and "gaming" console that suffocates for 'juice' after one hour...Jun 21 21:41
psydroid2it just never made sense for me to jump on the AMD bandwagon over the past few yearsJun 21 21:41
schestowitz_TRI have a new machine with amd athlonJun 21 21:42
schestowitz_TRit need a fanJun 21 21:42
schestowitz_TRand it's not that fastJun 21 21:42
schestowitz_TRit's in some way sloweer than the pi4Jun 21 21:42
psydroid2that's why I built my last desktop in 2009Jun 21 21:42
psydroid2I can't stand heat and fan noiseJun 21 21:42
schestowitz_TRimagine trying to run windows on this thingJun 21 21:43
psydroid2it literally gives me a headacheJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRthe fan noise I became more aware of when I got rid of x86Jun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRand then you can sleep in peaceJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRthe CRTs made another kind of noiseJun 21 21:43
psydroid2that's been my experienceJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRanother is magnetic driveJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRIF it spinsJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRwhioch happens with some OSes while idleJun 21 21:43
schestowitz_TRthose noise might not make a difference iuf you lkive next to a roadJun 21 21:44
schestowitz_TRsometimes you don't need task monitoringJun 21 21:45
schestowitz_TRyou can hear the strainJun 21 21:45
psydroid2I still see a decreasing role for x86 when it comes to raw performance, but that's mainly based on price/performance for high core countsJun 21 21:45
schestowitz_TRwith your earsJun 21 21:45
schestowitz_TRand it warms upJun 21 21:45
schestowitz_TRhappened to me some days ago wqhen dolphin maxed up a cpu coreJun 21 21:45
psydroid2you turn on the machine, do a certain job and switch it offJun 21 21:45
psydroid2that's how I use x86 these daysJun 21 21:45
schestowitz_TRhmmmJun 21 21:46
schestowitz_TRcpu scaling might doJun 21 21:46
techrights-newsWhat a hideous headline https://tecadmin.net/what-is-computer-hardware/Jun 21 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecadmin.net | What is Computer Hardware? – TecAdminJun 21 21:47
psydroid2what I am wondering about in particular is sales of used hardwareJun 21 21:48
techrights-newsSurveys are not "research"; 'Linux' Foundation has rebranded marketing as 'research', just like Microsoft... https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/todo-group-announces-2022-ospo-survey/Jun 21 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | TODO Group Announces 2022 OSPO Survey - Linux FoundationJun 21 21:48
psydroid2we will be seeing a lot of used hardware for very low prices over the next few yearsJun 21 21:48
psydroid2so why would you ever buy new if you don't need the latest and greatest?Jun 21 21:49
psydroid2s/for/at/Jun 21 21:49
techrights-newsNo kidding. This page mentions "clown" like 40 times! https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/nephio-sees-rapid-growth-as-more-organizations-commit-to-simplify-cloud-native-automation-of-telecom-network-functions/Jun 21 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Nephio Sees Rapid Growth as More Organizations Commit to Simplify Cloud Native Automation of Telecom Network Functions - Linux FoundationJun 21 21:50
schestowitz_TRspare or unwanted stocks can be good tooJun 21 21:50
schestowitz_TRin outletsJun 21 21:51
schestowitz_TRunwanted, returned machinesJun 21 21:51
psydroid2I expect those to become available as well, of courseJun 21 21:51
schestowitz_TRthat would never run windowJun 21 21:51
schestowitz_TRsso you get them like half priceJun 21 21:51
psydroid2even older unsold hardware that they can't really sell at regular prices anymoreJun 21 21:51
techrights-newsPublic Knowledge Policy Counsel Kathleen Burke Receives WifiForward Wi-Fi At Work Award https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-policy-counsel-kathleen-burke-receives-wififorward-wi-fi-at-work-award/ they still need to kick out Microsoft (organised crime) from their BoardJun 21 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Policy Counsel Kathleen Burke Receives WifiForward Wi-Fi At Work Award - Public KnowledgeJun 21 21:52
techrights-newsHey U! pineapple-for-head ;-) https://www.davidrevoy.com/article914/dryad-fan-artJun 21 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Dryad (fan-art) - David RevoyJun 21 21:53
psydroid2I'm actually waiting for an ARM and/or RISC-V chip that makes all the mainstream x86 hardware before 2020 obsolete from a price/performance/watt perspectiveJun 21 21:53
techrights-newsDebian in Canada https://veronneau.org/montreals-debian-stuff-june-2022.htmlJun 21 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-veronneau.org | Louis-Philippe Véronneau - Montreal's Debian & Stuff - June 2022Jun 21 21:55
techrights-newsSteve Kemp: Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golang https://blog.steve.fi/writing_a_simple_tcl_interpreter_in_golang.htmlJun 21 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.fi | Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golangJun 21 21:56
techrights-newsBut "sustainability" is a meaningless buzzword https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252521657/Tech-sector-sustainability-efforts-need-full-ecosystem-approachJun 21 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Tech sector sustainability efforts need full ecosystem approachJun 21 21:57
MinceR(video) (audio) https://obviousplant.tumblr.com/post/154086173658/introducing-sadness-boxJun 21 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-obviousplant.tumblr.com | Obvious Plant — Introducing Sadness Box!Jun 21 21:58
techrights-news"Software developers must be vigilant in regards to their use of hardware resources. Dedicated hardware is often expensive to buy, run, and maintain—and there’s only so much room in a data center for extra servers." https://containerjournal.com/features/5-best-practices-when-implementing-a-container-strategy/Jun 21 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | 5 Best Practices When Implementing a Container Strategy - Container JournalJun 21 21:58
schestowitz_TRpsydroid2: <techrights-news> Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/20/think-silicon-neox-risc-v-gpu-offer-3d-graphics-or-ai-acceleration/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftwareJun 21 21:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX SoftwareJun 21 21:59
schestowitz_TRgreekJun 21 21:59
psydroid2I read about that earlierJun 21 21:59
schestowitz_TR<techrights-news> RISC-V 3D GPU https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/15/2462749/0/en/Think-Silicon-to-Unveil-Industry-s-First-RISC-V-3D-GPU-at-Embedded-World-2022.html?s=09Jun 21 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Think Silicon to Unveil Industry’s First RISC-V 3D GPU atJun 21 22:00
psydroid2I think RISC-V is great for enabling innovation from more places than beforeJun 21 22:00
psydroid2s/from/in/Jun 21 22:00
MinceRprovided intel lets those places anywhere near RISC-VJun 21 22:00
techrights-newsSUSE's Web site compromised, controlled by SAP salespeople instead of SUSE engineers. https://www.suse.com/c/sap-hana-maintenance-suse-clusters/Jun 21 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Optimal SAP HANA handshake takeover in SUSE clusterJun 21 22:01
psydroid2Intel doesn't have much of a say in thisJun 21 22:01
MinceRi thought they pushed their tentacles into RISC-V alreadyJun 21 22:01
psydroid2they are trying, but the "ecosystem" is vast and consists of many companies and academiaJun 21 22:02
techrights-newsUK's Digital Strategy https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uks-digital-strategy making the digital data vanish, so... another 50,000 people die and nobody notices https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/Jun 21 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK's Digital Strategy - GOV.UKJun 21 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the TransparencyJun 21 22:02
techrights-newsNew Digital Strategy to make UK a global tech superpower https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-digital-strategy-to-make-uk-a-global-tech-superpower after Brexit it ain't gonna happen. We're run by a neanderthals regime, like pretty dump Patel and Borisnaro.Jun 21 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Digital Strategy to make UK a global tech superpower - GOV.UKJun 21 22:03
schestowitz_TRpsydroid2: Intel just spenda a lot of money atmJun 21 22:04
schestowitz_TRmarketing, salaries to entice back key engineers who quitJun 21 22:04
schestowitz_TRIntel is having a run for its lifeJun 21 22:04
schestowitz_TRmaybe Phoronix will publish another dozen pieces about CLEAR(LY GOING NOWHERE)Linux)Jun 21 22:05
psydroid2schestowitz_TR, I met a few they had put in charge of SiFive through Intel Capital investments, but Imagination and StarFive are examples of companies working on their own RISC-V siliconJun 21 22:06
schestowitz_TRApple dumped themJun 21 22:06
schestowitz_TRafter it had dumped ICBMJun 21 22:06
schestowitz_TRthe Hollerith companyJun 21 22:06
psydroid2Intel can't control all companies out there like they could do with x86 or Itanium and the other failed architecturesJun 21 22:06
schestowitz_TRhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-oneAPI-Blender-3.3-OnJun 21 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Still Hoping To Have oneAPI/SYCL GPU Acceleration In Blender 3.3 - PhoronixJun 21 22:07
psydroid2Phoronix is far too positive about AMD's achievementsJun 21 22:07
schestowitz_TRthis is an article topic??Jun 21 22:07
schestowitz_TRhttps://developer.blender.org/D15254Jun 21 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | ⚙ D15254 Cycles: Add support for rendering on Intel GPUs using oneAPIJun 21 22:07
psydroid2sure, they are winning big time in a financial senseJun 21 22:07
schestowitz_TRwowJun 21 22:07
schestowitz_TRfrom turning single file patches into articleJun 21 22:08
schestowitz_TRto turning bugf reports into someJun 21 22:08
psydroid2but what is actually happening in the marketJun 21 22:08
schestowitz_TR>One APIJun 21 22:08
schestowitz_TR=MicrosoftJun 21 22:08
schestowitz_TR(GitHub)(Jun 21 22:08
psydroid2also Intel's discrete GPUs are only supposed to work with their own newer platformsJun 21 22:09
psydroid2I've never heard of anything like this beforeJun 21 22:09
schestowitz_TRbeen a month since michael did SINGLE JOB POST articlesJun 21 22:09
schestowitz_TRone job openingJun 21 22:09
schestowitz_TR=one phoronix articleJun 21 22:09
schestowitz_TRthe chip companies have mmillikons of vacanciesJun 21 22:09
schestowitz_TR<psydroid2> also Intel's discrete GPUs are only supposed to work with their own newer platformsJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRbut they can pull out of the marketJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRlike atom and itaniumJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRnever get proprietary Jun 21 22:10
psydroid2I don't think they will this timeJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRthe promises are riskyJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRopenmoko was like thatJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRget a phoneJun 21 22:10
schestowitz_TRand it goes nowhereJun 21 22:10
psydroid2because they need GPUs to win HPC and HEY HI contractsJun 21 22:10
psydroid2yeah, I didn't even know they triedJun 21 22:11
psydroid2only after they had already got out of that market did I find out they had lost billions of dollars trying to competeJun 21 22:12
techrights-newsPhoronix cannot find material, so it starts turning BUG reports into ARTICLES.... or, as in here, Microsoft (Proprietary) GitHub tickets into articles https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-Mesh-Shaders-DetailsJun 21 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Mesh Shaders To Closely Mirror Direct3D 12 Capabilities - PhoronixJun 21 22:12
techrights-newsLimine compiled in OpenEmbedded https://bkhome.org/news/202206/limine-compiled-in-openembedded.htmlJun 21 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Limine compiled in OpenEmbeddedJun 21 22:15
techrights-news"This is a tutorial to install Unity Desktop Environment on Ubuntu 22.04. This turns back Ubuntu to the previous default experience between the years 2011-2017. Let's turn back Unity!" http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/ubuntu-unity-jammy-jellyfish.htmlJun 21 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Ubuntu Unity Jammy JellyfishJun 21 22:16
techrights-newsMakuluLinux: What’s Next on our Agenda? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166299Jun 21 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux: What’s Next on our Agenda? | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:16
techrights-newsThread safety support in libsoup3 | Carlos Garcia Campos ⚓ https://blogs.igalia.com/carlosgc/2022/06/21/thread-safety-support-in-libsoup3/ ䷉ Source: igaliaJun 21 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Thread safety support in libsoup3 | Carlos Garcia CamposJun 21 22:16
techrights-news"When importing product inspections, a Linux-based system with NVIDIA® GPU runs inspection models for image analysis." https://www.automation.com/en-us/articles/june-2022/case-study-aoi-system-100x-data-transmission?listname=Automation & Control News & ArticlesJun 21 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.automation.com | Case Study: AOI System Through Workload Consolidation Brings 100X Data Transmission EnhancementJun 21 22:19
techrights-newsOperation Z. HP calls its Windows crap "Z"... entraps fake 'Ubuntu' inside Linux https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1773168/z-by-hp-powers-todays-professionals-to-create-without-limitationJun 21 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Z by HP Powers Today's Profess - GuruFocus.comJun 21 22:21
techrights-newsThis is GNU, not Linux https://www.networkworld.com/article/3664077/counting-the-days-on-linux.htmlJun 21 22:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Counting the days on Linux | Network WorldJun 21 22:22
techrights-newsOPI Project aims to standardize DPUs and IPUs for industry adoption http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34092Jun 21 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:28
techrights-newsLinus Torvalds: After 30 years, Linux is not a dead project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166300Jun 21 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds: After 30 years, Linux is not a dead project | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:29
MinceRhttps://64.media.tumblr.com/73947f42ab506ebc6a3c510bd4b01ca0/tumblr_oh5o5omL0x1u53c30o2_1280.jpgJun 21 22:30
techrights-newsLinux Foundation does not earn coverage, it buys coverageJun 21 22:30
XRevan86https://gajim.org/post/2022-06-21-gajim-1.4.5-released/Jun 21 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gajim.org | Gajim 1.4.5 - GajimJun 21 22:31
techrights-newsAfter many years and under the misleading, baseless, false guise of "fighting trolls" OIN is trying to normalise software patents with these patent pools https://thefintechtimes.com/rbc-joins-the-open-invention-network-to-protect-fintech-from-looming-threat-of-patent-trolls/Jun 21 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thefintechtimes.com | RBC Joins the Open Invention Network To Protect Fintech From Looming Threat of Patent Trolls | The Fintech TimesJun 21 22:32
techrights-newsDiploma mill riding the "Linux" brand https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/500-promising-individuals-worldwide-receive-linux-foundation-it-training--certification-scholarships-301572252.htmlJun 21 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | 500 Promising Individuals Worldwide Receive Linux Foundation IT Training & Certification ScholarshipsJun 21 22:33
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/adobe-acrobat-may-block-antivirus-tools-from-monitoring-pdf-files/Jun 21 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Adobe Acrobat may block antivirus tools from monitoring PDF filesJun 21 22:35
techrights-newsSecurity Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166301Jun 21 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:35
schestowitz_TRAdmFubar: windows isue :-)Jun 21 22:35
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166302Jun 21 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:40
techrights-newsIBM/Red Hat and Fedora • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166303Jun 21 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat and Fedora | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:40
techrights-newsMemfault Adds OTA Update for Embedded Linux - IoT For All ⚓ https://www.iotforall.com/press-releases/memfault-adds-ota-embedded-linux ䷉ Source: iotforallJun 21 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iotforall.com | Memfault Adds OTA Update for Embedded Linux - IoT For AllJun 21 22:42
techrights-newsToday’s Linux Foundation and OIN Fluff • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166304Jun 21 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today's Linux Foundation and OIN Fluff | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:44
techrights-newsMozilla/Firefox Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166305Jun 21 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla/Firefox Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:44
techrights-news"What source code repository is ethical well it depends on how you define ethics and if you go by what the FSF and GNU have to say well basically nothing is except what they offer themselves." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JHIdRZTI74oJun 21 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | GitHub & GitLab Are Awful, What Does The FSF Suggest - InvidiousJun 21 22:47
techrights-news"In this backyard boomer vlog, I ramble on about how Linux has become a "normie" operating system. If you have used Linux for a few years (or more), then you have undoubtedly noticed that Linux has gotten so good that it's really...just another operating system." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eefkRwRJkzwJun 21 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Every Linux Distro Is Great! (Every Desktop Environment Too!) - InvidiousJun 21 22:48
techrights-newsBuild Me Up BetterCAP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166306Jun 21 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Build Me Up BetterCAP | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:49
techrights-newsFree Software Directory on IRC: Friday, June 24 starting at 12:00 p.m. EDT (14:00 UTC) https://www.fsf.org/events/free-software-directory-on-irc-friday-june-24-starting-at-12-00-p-m-edt-14-00-utcJun 21 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory on IRC: Friday, June 24 starting at 12:00 p.m. EDT (14:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareJun 21 22:49
techrights-newsEvents: OpenUK, Free Software Directory, and Southern California Linux Expo • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166307Jun 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: OpenUK, Free Software Directory, and Southern California Linux Expo | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:54
techrights-newsVideos: "Normies", GitHub & GitLab, Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166308Jun 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: "Normies", GitHub & GitLab, Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition | Tux MachinesJun 21 22:54
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▅▃▅▆▅▇▆▄▅▇▅▄▅▆▅▆▅▇▆▆▃▃▄▅▄▅▇▁ avg(k/sec) 26.66 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▃▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.05▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jun 21 22:59
techrights-newsAgnes Giberne's *The Story of the Sun, Moon, and Stars* (1898) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/story-of-sun-moon-stars/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreviewJun 21 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Agnes Giberne's *The Story of the Sun, Moon, and Stars* (1898) – The Public Domain ReviewJun 21 23:00
techrights-newsManjaro 21.3.0 Is Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34094Jun 21 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 21.3 "Ruah" Brings Refreshed Desktop Environments | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:02
techrights-newsLinux Around The World: USA - Montana http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165929#comment-34095Jun 21 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux: Arch Linux, "Linux" Around The World, and Linux Format 290 | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:02
techrights-newsThis high-speed Arduino pen plotter creates drawings in mere minutes | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/21/this-high-speed-arduino-pen-plotter-creates-drawings-in-mere-minutes/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | HackingJun 21 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This high-speed Arduino pen plotter creates drawings in mere minutes | Arduino BlogJun 21 23:03
techrights-news'Linux' Foundation for Microsoft proxies, spreading Microsoft's FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34096Jun 21 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:05
techrights-newsJim Zermlin will age fast if he carries on shining Microsoft's boots so hardJun 21 23:06
techrights-news'Linux' Foundation: the voice of Microsoft http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34097Jun 21 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:07
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techrights-newsOpen Hardware/Modding: Arduino and RISC-V • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166311Jun 21 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and RISC-V | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:13
techrights-newsDevices: Memfault, AOI, amd SolidRun • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166312Jun 21 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Memfault, AOI, amd SolidRun | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:13
techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166313Jun 21 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:14
techrights-newsLinks 21/06/2022: Lots of Garbage From ’Linux’ Foundation | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/garbage-from-linux-foundation/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/garbage-from-linux-foundation/Jun 21 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/06/2022: Lots of Garbage From ‘Linux’ Foundation | TechrightsJun 21 23:20
techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166314Jun 21 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 21 23:20
MinceRhttps://thecodinglove.com/when-i-think-my-hotfix-worked-but-it-crashes-againJun 21 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When I think my hotfix worked but it crashes again | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokesJun 21 23:22
techrights-newsTodo lists in Vim, syntax highlighting gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/~johngodlee/posts/2022-06-20-todo.gmiJun 21 23:22
techrights-newsK-punk haunts gemini 21-06-2022 gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/31-kpunk-haunts-gemini.gmiJun 21 23:23
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gorqhttps://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/microsoft-windows/368320/microsoft-reportedly-blocks-russian-windows-10-and-11Jun 21 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Microsoft reportedly blocks Russian Windows 10 and Windows 11 downloads | IT PROJun 21 23:31
gorqthe ear of the linux desktop has finally arrivedJun 21 23:31
XRevan86Still occuring, don't particularly care.Jun 21 23:33
MinceRpeople in russia can download MICROS~1's and ibm's other OS, fedora, insteadJun 21 23:41
gorqfedora is linux desktopJun 21 23:49
MinceRyeahJun 21 23:49
MinceRsystemd/Linux distributionJun 21 23:49
gorqrefhat is the mother of all linux desktopJun 21 23:50
MinceRmade from Linux (controlled by the Linux-Destroying Foundation, owned by corporations like MICROS~1 and ibm), systemd (controlled by ibm and based on MICROS~1 design principles), gnome (also controlled by ibm) and a few bits they're trying to throw away alreadyJun 21 23:50
MinceRibm owns redhatJun 21 23:50
MinceRhttps://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/37/2016/04/Tshirts-2-1024x647.jpgJun 21 23:50
gorqdo you think users are changing back to bash from zsh because of the Z?Jun 21 23:54
gorqalso ZSH sounds like a shell to run closed sourced binariesJun 21 23:55
MinceRlolJun 21 23:55
MinceRi haven't heard about that, and i'm certainly not planning to do thatJun 21 23:55
gorqso you use ZSHJun 21 23:56
MinceRi doJun 21 23:56
gorqyou run binaries using sh "binary"Jun 21 23:58
gorqor ./ "binary" ?Jun 21 23:59

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