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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | How Much Incel Terrorism Can We Prevent With Kindness? - Daniel Miessler

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Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.22 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/06/17/update-base64dump-py-version-0-0-22/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.didierstevens.com | Update: base64dump.py Version 0.0.22 | Didier Stevens

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ACM pushing "HEY HI" hype and bullshit https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/articles/261864-how-smarter-ai-will-change-creativity/fulltext

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | How Smarter AI Will Change Creativity | Opinion | Communications of the ACM

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There is no labour shortage but a shortage of shareholders and managers with empathy towards other human beings https://cacm.acm.org/news/261162-addressing-labor-shortages-with-automation/fulltext

Jun 21 00:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | Addressing Labor Shortages with Automation | News | Communications of the ACM

Jun 21 00:15

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"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 740 for the week of June 12 – 18, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/06/20/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-740/

Jun 21 00:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 740

Jun 21 00:17

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"I've enjoyed seeing the rise and fall of mobile games - and the effects it's had on the wider gaming landscape. As the mobile market has slowly shifted towards gacha and idle mechanics, a lot of the enjoyable precepts of "lunch break gaming" have become heavily integrated into the indie landscape." gemini://pluviam95.smol.pub/entry4

Jun 21 00:22

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"But what could be interesting about such a computer today? What was new and innovative back then is mostly outdated today: The Atari had no real multitasking, it could load up to 6 additional so-called desk accessories, but could only run one main program at a time." gemini://datapulp.smol.pub/atari-st-what-a-computer

Jun 21 00:23

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"Something also had to happen to the keyboard. The keys were extremely yellowed. So I took off all the keycaps and exposed them to the sun in a solution of half water, half bleach for a day as well. They became much less yellow, but unfortunately I couldn't get rid of the yellowing completely." gemini://datapulp.smol.pub/atari-260st-retrobrighting

Jun 21 00:24

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Jun 21 00:25

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"The legislation includes wrecking terminology which specifically tears up almost all aspects of the Irish Protocol. It reverses three years of negotiations concluded by the EU and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson in January 2020." https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/uk-pm-boris-johnson-rips-up-brexit-protocol-60570

Jun 21 00:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anfenglishmobile.com | ANF | UK PM Boris Johnson rips up Brexit Protocol

Jun 21 00:28

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NO: "the agreements concerning e-commerce, fisheries subsidies, and COVID-19 vaccines deserve to be celebrated." They've just killed millions of people to protect the patent monopolies. WTO needs to be abolished for humanity's sake https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/tradeworld/the-wto-ministerial-agreement-problematic-progress/

Jun 21 00:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.atlanticcouncil.org | The WTO Ministerial Agreement – Problematic Progress - Atlantic Council

Jun 21 00:29

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"In 1994, Hutu extremists slaughtered 800,000 Tutsi using nail-spiked clubs, machetes and other weapons. A UN unit led by Chief Prosecutor Serge Brammertz is still trying to track down those responsible, but it is a race against time." https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/searching-for-the-final-suspects-of-the-rwandan-genocide-a-c8438dd7-a59c-43a8-85d8-74348f38e400#ref=rss

Jun 21 00:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spiegel.de | Searching for the Final Suspects of the Rwandan Genocide - DER SPIEGEL

Jun 21 00:30

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Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility | Tom's Hardware ⚓ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/devterm-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-adapter ䷉ Source: tomshardware

Jun 21 00:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility | Tom's Hardware

Jun 21 00:31

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Raspberry Pi TV Simulator Tunes in to Retro Channels | Tom's Hardware ⚓ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-tv-simulator ䷉ Source: tomshardware

Jun 21 00:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi TV Simulator Tunes in to Retro Channels | Tom's Hardware

Jun 21 00:32

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Beaglebone Black still going strong http://box.matto.nl/beaglebone-black-still-going-strong.html

Jun 21 00:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beaglebone Black still going strong - box.matto.nl

Jun 21 00:32

AdmFubar

oh what could go wrong! https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/20/redbean_2_a_singlefile_web/

Jun 21 00:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Unbelievable: A single-file web server that runs on six OSes • The Register

Jun 21 00:33

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Jun 21 00:35

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Debian and Ubuntu Miscellany • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166271

Jun 21 00:39

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Miscellany | Tux Machines

Jun 21 00:39

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Videos: Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 and "Boycott Wayland. It breaks everything!" • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166270

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Manjaro Linux 21.3.0 and "Boycott Wayland. It breaks everything!" | Tux Machines

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Open Hardware/Modding: Beaglebone, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166269

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Beaglebone, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino | Tux Machines

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ChromeOS can now open more archive files including 7z, iso, and tar https://9to5google.com/2022/06/20/chromeos-archives-7z-iso-tar/

Jun 21 00:44

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ChromeOS can open more archives including 7z, iso, & tar - 9to5Google

Jun 21 00:44

MinceR

(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/xFqwBYy

Jun 21 00:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Just a little happy post of our kitties - Album on Imgur

Jun 21 00:49

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Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the Transparency https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/

Jun 21 00:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the Transparency

Jun 21 00:54

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Jun 21 00:59

techrights-news

Finally. The longest day.

Jun 21 00:59

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Programming and HowTos • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166272

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming and HowTos | Tux Machines

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Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166273

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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Links 21/06/2022: KDE e.V. Votes and Gemini’s Birthday | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/kde-e-v-votes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/kde-e-v-votes/

Jun 21 01:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/06/2022: KDE e.V. Votes and Gemini’s Birthday | Techrights

Jun 21 01:08

DaemonFC

Golden Corral seems to have recovered from COVID.

Jun 21 01:24

DaemonFC

For a while there, business was kind of blah.

Jun 21 01:24

DaemonFC

Today, the place was packed, the food was a lot better than it was during the COVID panic.

Jun 21 01:25

DaemonFC

I like how everyone was panicking about COVID and now nobody even pays any attention to it.

Jun 21 01:25

DaemonFC

That's how "Bigger Problems" work.

Jun 21 01:25

DaemonFC

Biden got in and fucked everything else up and now COVID's not #1 anymore because there's like 11 things that are worse than that thanks to Biden.

Jun 21 01:26

DaemonFC

He did fulfill a campaign promise. He got us past fear of COVID. Now he's got people afraid of losing their jobs, savings, and home.

Jun 21 01:26

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Jun 21 01:31

schestowitz_TR

it's not a biden thing

Jun 21 01:32

DaemonFC

The rich people who don't need government incentives to buy an EV are the only people who can afford one. Maybe if Pete "If you can't afford a gallon of gas for your clunker, just get an EV." Buttf*** and JB Prickster, who keeps taking more from us to give to rich people who buy EVs would get out of the way and give us some tax relief on an ongoing basis, we could get through this.

Jun 21 01:34

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Jun 21 01:35

DaemonFC

They're talking about a federal gas tax holiday right before the election they're about to lose big time.

Jun 21 01:35

DaemonFC

On top of Cost of Living Hell which the mjg59_s of the world gave us, we're sick and fucking tired of people's "preferred pronouns" and worrying about if we're being unfair to felons.

Jun 21 01:36

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schestowitz_TR

this isn't about tech

DaemonFC

But I think Fox News really had to scrape the bottom of the bucket the other day to put someone on a pedestal when they did that story about Kraken.

schestowitz_TR

back on topic.

DaemonFC

Unfortunately, the rest of the companies have gone woke and maybe there aren't any examples of CEOs that just want things to be normal in the workplace.

techrights-news

"This week’s episode of Destination Linux, we’re going to be talking about IDE monopolization is it going to be an issue in the future?" VS Code = proprietary spyware controlled by an anti-Linux company. Boycott it. https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-283/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-283: The State of IDEs: VSCode or BS-Code? - Destination Linux - TuxDigital

DaemonFC

I'm so glad I don't have to deal with those idiots Mandy works with. They just fired 4 more of them the other day for having group sex in the family bathroom.

DaemonFC

Four adults and none of them thought to lock the door.

DaemonFC

Then there's another one who is on workman's comp while posting pictures of herself having a ball on vacation.

Jun 21 01:39

DaemonFC

On top of all of the ones who are just lazy as sin and stealing from the company.

Jun 21 01:39

DaemonFC

Of course they all want $20 an hour. It's like that everywhere now.

DaemonFC

These are the people who want $20 and a union.

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Amnesty International & Debian Day suicides comparison http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166091#comment-34076

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PsyOps 007: Paul Tagliamonte wanted Debian Press Team to have license to kill | Tux Machines

DaemonFC

I wonder if Richard Stallman has a position on that.

Jun 21 01:41

DaemonFC

Maybe they'd have more job security if they didn't call off all the time because they were hungover, steal, have group sex in the bathroom, and worked.

Jun 21 01:41

DaemonFC

It's all of the fuckoffs that are the reason nobody gets a good deal on their labor.

Jun 21 01:42

DaemonFC

Walmart is like any other company. They have to tolerate so much of this to avoid EEOC investigations that everyone has to suffer, and it becomes a welfare program for the worst.

Jun 21 01:43

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: what the actual fuck

Jun 21 01:45

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: Why are you linking to something that contains actual lies about someone's death?

Jun 21 01:45

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Jun 21 01:51

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: Frans died in 2010. The mail Daniel is referring to was sent in 2007.

Jun 21 01:51

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Jun 21 01:51

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: Daniel Pocock simply lies about things. He is not credible. And yet you continue linking to his poisonous claims.

Jun 21 01:52

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Gemini Turning Three and Why It’ll Probably Reach and Exceed Ten (Decade) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/

Jun 21 01:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Turning Three and Why It’ll Probably Reach and Exceed Ten (Decade) | Techrights

Jun 21 01:55

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https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/raheem-sterling-best-of-2122-63791339

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Raheem Sterling: 2021/22 season highlights

schestowitz_TR

DRM :/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-daughter-files-to-ditch-his-last-name

schestowitz_TR

Firefox pushing DRM, too

Jun 21 02:00

techrights-news

No new "Linux" story in 6 days already. You know ZDNet is perishing... http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022

Jun 21 02:06

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights

Jun 21 02:06

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People "collecting" fake 'friends' in social control media to compensate for a lack of real, trusted, real-life/IRL friends is understandable. Kids do the same thing with imaginary friends. Social control media is infantile.

Jun 21 02:08

AdmFubar

Jun 21 02:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Elon Musk’s Daughter Files to Ditch His Last Name

Jun 21 02:21

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[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D619.jpg

Jun 21 02:21

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[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D268.jpg

Jun 21 02:22

schestowitz_TR

whose name?

Jun 21 02:22

schestowitz_TR

his? hers?

Jun 21 02:22

schestowitz_TR

this headline is poorly written

Jun 21 02:23

MinceR

Elon Musk's Daughter Files to Rename "Elon Musk" to "Elon"

Jun 21 02:25

schestowitz_TR

Mask

Jun 21 02:25

MinceR

"Somebody stop me!"

Jun 21 02:27

schestowitz_TR

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

Jun 21 02:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Queen - Don't Stop Me Now (Official Video) - Invidious

Jun 21 02:27

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Jun 21 02:33

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Don’t be Grumpy About Alternatives to the World Wide Web | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/

Jun 21 02:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t be Grumpy About Alternatives to the World Wide Web | Techrights

Jun 21 02:33

schestowitz_TR

>> "He is not credible. And yet you continue linking to his poisonous claims."

Jun 21 02:34

schestowitz_TR

a. I did not know we have our own URL kkkop in IRC

Jun 21 02:34

schestowitz_TR

b. the Internet tested accusations and found that on ALL grounds the right of speech was there

Jun 21 02:34

schestowitz_TR

c. it's not unreasona\ble to allow dissenting views

Jun 21 02:35

*schestowitz_TR back to work

Jun 21 02:35

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Jun 21 02:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 20, 2022

Jun 21 02:36

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"Social" "justice' "warriors": we're all about rights, except the right of free expression

Jun 21 02:36

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 20, 2022

Jun 21 02:38

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: Uh when was the last time you linked to Swapnil without including a snide comment

Jun 21 02:38

schestowitz_TR

I LINK to him

schestowitz_TR

that's refuting the pooint

schestowitz_TR

I did not say censor links to him

mjg59_

Yeah but you link while passing judgement

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 20, 2022

schestowitz_TR

freedom of expression = criticism

schestowitz_TR

maybe one day you will understand how freedom of speech works

mjg59_

While Pocock continues to lie about free software contributors, but you link to him without any criticism

schestowitz_TR

you are not making a point

schestowitz_TR

spamnil is worse

schestowitz_TR

spamnil lies for money

schestowitz_TR

that's vastly worse than misguided opinions

mjg59_

Worse than someone who falsely claims that free software contributors drove someone to suicide?

schestowitz_TR

he also helped crimes

schestowitz_TR

like vmware cover up abues

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schestowitz_TR

mjg59_: there are many suicide storiues there, inc. Murdock

mjg59_

Worse than someone who falsely claims that free software contributors are involved in human traficking?

schestowitz_TR

who was driven to it by SFPF

schestowitz_TR

*PD

schestowitz_TR

they pushed him over the edge

schestowitz_TR

maybe you should moan about that police dept.

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mjg59_

Oh, I do

schestowitz_TR

not fight against people with a history of fighting for indiginous people

schestowitz_TR

like Aboriginals

mjg59_

Do you believe Pocock's claims?

schestowitz_TR

not always

schestowitz_TR

but he should have his platform

mjg59_

So why do you link to them without comment?

schestowitz_TR

that's free speech

schestowitz_TR

stop policing who is allowed to have links

mjg59_

How often do you link to me without criticism?

schestowitz_TR

and who can and cannot eb criticised

mjg59_

Should I not have my platform?

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schestowitz_TR

you do

schestowitz_TR

and you use ours, too

schestowitz_TR

I don't always link to you witrh criticism

mjg59_

Will you publish my writings on techrights.org, like you published Daniel's?

schestowitz_TR

in the past few years maybe 50%

schestowitz_TR

mjg59_: if t is relevant, maybe

mjg59_

Ok cool

schestowitz_TR

we focus on stuff like software patents

schestowitz_TR

not fake security

mjg59_

Uh when did Daniel ever write about software patents?

schestowitz_TR

he writes a lot about WIPO

schestowitz_TR

WIPO is a thug

schestowitz_TR

corrupt, bloodthirsty

mjg59_

How many of his articles that you republished mentioned WIPO?

schestowitz_TR

those are recent

schestowitz_TR

anyway, it is an ongoing case

schestowitz_TR

WIPO is trying to repair its image

mjg59_

Ok but you republished lots of things he wrote that said nothing about WIPO

mjg59_

So it's not just that you concentrate on software patents

schestowitz_TR

you hardly even write

schestowitz_TR

been like a month

schestowitz_TR

must be very busy at work... and IRC

mjg59_

Yeah I was on holiday

mjg59_

My dad's 70th

techrights-news

Linux Foundation as a front for fiscal predators https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-finops-foundation-announces-fidelity-investments-as-a-premier-member-301571166.html

Jun 21 02:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | The FinOps Foundation Announces Fidelity Investments as a Premier Member

Jun 21 02:48

techrights-news

ICBM is a proprietary software pusher. This means Red Hat too will increasingly abandon any spirit of "openness" (look what happened to CentOS and Fedora already) https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1770480/ibm-transforms-business-operations-with-the-rise-with-sap-solution-in-expanded-partnership-with-sap

Jun 21 02:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM Transforms Business Operat - GuruFocus.com

Jun 21 02:50

techrights-news

"If it surges during summertime (worse summer than 2020 and 2021), imagine what will happen in winter" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/

Jun 21 02:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the Transparency

Jun 21 02:51

techrights-news

With the World Wide Web going in the wrong direction we need an alternative that focuses on actual pages; Gemini is, at the moment, probably the most viable alternative to the World Wide Web http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/gemini-maturing/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Turning Three and Why It’ll Probably Reach and Exceed Ten (Decade) | Techrights

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The World Wide Web was preceded by several similar hypertext systems, some of which technically superior to it; now that the world’s Bloated Web (formerly World Wide Web) gravitates towards proprietary browsers and is basically becoming like Adobe’s Flash it makes more sense to embrace Gemini for textual material that’s safe to access http://techrights.org/2022/06/20/world-wide-web-is-bloat/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t be Grumpy About Alternatives to the World Wide Web | Techrights

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COVID-19 isn't finished. Government's empathy for human beings and care for human life is finished. Technically and legally it has been finished for decades, but now it seems worse than ever. Look at the lack of effort to STOP the Ukraine war.

Jun 21 02:54

techrights-news

NATO wants to END the Ukraine war like Pfizer wants to put a permanent stop to COVID-19.

Jun 21 02:55

techrights-news

Patents related to COVID-19 have already killed millions. With the WTO deal it's clear they want to kill millions more. Then they shed crocodile tears about loss of lives. What bothers them most is the MERE PROSPECT of loss of PATENTS (monopolies).

Jun 21 02:56

techrights-news

The best way to object to or protest the current heist (piggybacking pandemic and war, among other things) is to limit buying to a bare minimum. Let circulation of money sink to all-time lows...

Jun 21 02:57

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Jun 21 02:59

techrights-news

Media is still (even this week) using the queen's son, who isn't even the heir, to distract from far worse culprits, who literally worked to enable and to liberate Jeffrey Epstein https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html

Jun 21 02:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times

Jun 21 02:59

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Jun 21 03:00

techrights-news

The media is digging its own graves by covering up for high-profile criminals and bagging their money. This is one way the 'powerful' people kill journalism, which they never liked anyway...

Jun 21 03:01

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Jun 21 03:02

techrights-news

Journalism isn't dying. It is being assassinated.

Jun 21 03:02

techrights-news

"container security" = adding more complexity, praying this will somehow enhance security rather than add to the attack surface https://www.suse.com/c/visibility-and-consistency-are-essential-for-container-security/

Jun 21 03:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Visibility and consistency are essential for container security | SUSE Communities

Jun 21 03:03

mjg59_

Containers literally reduce attack surface?

Jun 21 03:05

techrights-news

Twitter will languish away while "pedo guy" Musk (who does NOT value free speech!) does to it what Icagn and Microsoft did to Yahoo! Twitter is already dead, but just informally...

Jun 21 03:05

schestowitz_TR

you can escape containers

Jun 21 03:05

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Jun 21 03:06

mjg59_

And if you deploy without using containers, you don't need to bother escaping

Jun 21 03:06

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Jun 21 03:08

schestowitz_TR

what are your credentials in security?

Jun 21 03:09

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Jun 21 03:09

schestowitz_TR

you're like Tony Campinos talking about patents

Jun 21 03:10

techrights-news

GNU/Linux at ~5% share https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202206

Jun 21 03:10

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Jun 21 03:10

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR: I teach security at Berkeley?

mjg59_

I dunno, what credentials do you want

schestowitz_TR

Tony Campino = a bunch of corrupt crooks made me EPO president, hence I'm patent expert

schestowitz_TR

mjg59_: did you study CS?

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR

did you study network security?

mjg59_

Did you study IP law?

schestowitz_TR

what are the creds?

schestowitz_TR

we're talking about you now

schestowitz_TR

not me

schestowitz_TR

there's no "IP law"

mjg59_

Right just wondering what creds you have to judge theEPO

schestowitz_TR

you answered my question

schestowitz_TR

with a non-answer

schestowitz_TR

you are a posert

schestowitz_TR

*poser

schestowitz_TR

like Bully de Blanc

schestowitz_TR

using one job as crtedential for the next

mjg59_

I've worked in security for a decade, I'm trusted by other people in the field

schestowitz_TR

without underlying seminal knowledge

schestowitz_TR

or anything of relevant

schestowitz_TR

use

schestowitz_TR

same as EPO management

schestowitz_TR

many people who do not even know what patents ar

schestowitz_TR

eimprovising

mjg59_

Do you think the only way to learn things is to go to university?

schestowitz_TR

or Linux [sic] Foundation

mjg59_

Do you think free software requires a CS degree?

schestowitz_TR

where almost no manager understands Linux, let alone uses it

schestowitz_TR

bbl

mjg59_

Coward

schestowitz_TR

don't be too offended

schestowitz_TR

you are part of a SYSTEMIC problem

schestowitz_TR

you are part of a SYSTEMIC problem

schestowitz_TR

it's not just you

mjg59_

One where I'm working in a field that I don't have a degree in?

mjg59_

How much code do you have in Linux, Roy?

schestowitz_TR

I am not a KERNEL hacker

mjg59_

Ok! But I am a kernel hacker.

schestowitz_TR

I'm a programmer/sysadmin

schestowitz_TR

m1k3: no

schestowitz_TR

you WERE

mjg59_

Oh, I still write kernel code

m1k3

Huh?

mjg59_

But what were my credentials for that?

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schestowitz_TR

m1k3: wrong autocomplete, sorry

mjg59_

My last computing qualification was an RSA stage I in Computer Literacy and Information Technology

mjg59_

I got a distinction!

schestowitz_TR

ACPI is not security

mjg59_

It says I can use a word processor, a spreadsheet and a database

matey

My last computing qualification was an RSA stage I in Computer Literacy <- this has to be about teaching

schestowitz_TR

"secure" boot is not security

mjg59_

Well sure but what were my credentials for ACPI

matey

even i would assume mjg doesnt need "computer literacy"

matey

that would be silly

mjg59_

Roy's complaining that having a PhD in genetics means I'm not qualified to work in security

mjg59_

But seems ok with me having worked full-time on kernel development before that

matey

Roy's complaining that having a PhD in genetics means I'm not qualified to work in security <- hehehe

matey

mark my words, sometimes hes sillier than you

mjg59_

Which I'm equally unqualified on, by this argument

matey

you teach computer literacy now?

mjg59_

Nah, I teach security

mjg59_

Got an award for it!

m1k3

mjg59_, I haven't been around here long and don't understand the dynamics here...but I'm curious why you hang around here when you don't feel respected? Are you expecting something?

matey

wouldnt be your first

matey

I'm curious why you hang around here when you don't feel respected? <- oh hell, even i can understand that

matey

its a "long story"

mjg59_

m1k3: Because I care about free software and there's a bunch of people here who care about free software but who I disagree with, and I want to understand that disagreement

schestowitz_TR

mjg59_

No point in only spending time in places where everyone agrees with me

schestowitz_TR

you want to censor people you do not agree with

schestowitz_TR

that's how you deal with conflicting views

schestowitz_TR

(it's also how team systemd deals with it)

Jun 21 03:22

matey

this is an oversimplification

Jun 21 03:23

matey

its true to a degree

Jun 21 03:23

m1k3

mjg59_, No offense, but if you ever want to understand disagreements, that will never happen if you become defensive or result to insults.

Jun 21 03:24

matey

systemd uses every trick in the book-- some more than others

matey

i mean

matey

ibm,

matey

ibm...

matey

red hat..

matey

red hat...

techrights-news

Laptops/desktops on Turkey? GNU/Linux measured at 10% this past spring https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/turkey/#monthly-200901-202206 and if you count mobile too, Windows is at 10%

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Turkey | Statcounter Global Stats

m1k3

resort*

matey

censorship is only one tool in the devils toolchest

m1k3

What?

fuzzy

GNU GCC... as far as the "disagreement" was concerned

schestowitz_TR

there are different censorshiop methods

schestowitz_TR

inc. self-censorship inducements

matey

oh you can say that again

schestowitz_TR

threats

fuzzy

what is this... GNU... a dump yard for corporate interests?

schestowitz_TR

mobbing

schestowitz_TR

deplatforming

matey

what is this... GNU... a dump yard for corporate intere <- i mean if you fail to defend it, then yes

matey

and they failed to defend it... so yes

schestowitz_TR

btw, johns isn't too keen on free speech

schestowitz_TR

he's not formally in fsf now

matey

mobbing <- deplatforming <- lets not forget bullshitting

fuzzy

no offense towards mjg59_, neither personal nor based on technical merits

fuzzy

nonetheless, i consider GCC damaged beyond repair

matey

he's not formally in fsf now <- well to be fai

matey

fair

matey

there is no fsf

matey

<fuzzy> nonetheless, i consider GCC damaged beyond repair <- maybe

matey

its bleak

matey

but its also relative

schestowitz_TR

fsf is there

schestowitz_TR

but it does not fight hard

matey

s/hard/at all/

schestowitz_TR

too worried about how some circles might react

matey

oh fuck it

matey

s/hard//

schestowitz_TR

now unable to be a revotionary force

schestowitz_TR

which is what the coup plotters wanted

matey

s/revolutionary//

schestowitz_TR

so they can carry on writing proprietary crap with back doors

schestowitz_TR

and fsf will star hush

matey

its a non-force, non-revolutionary, non-organisation

matey

to wit: (this is tongue in cheek)

matey

http://www.nongnu.org/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.nongnu.org | Welcome [Savannah]

schestowitz_TR

stay

schestowitz_TR

http://fsf.org/blog

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blog )

matey

THIS IS an EX-PARROT!

matey

http://fsf.org/blog <- oh, good! free water bottles!

matey

only $100

matey

but free as in free-dumb

schestowitz_TR

"by Zoë Kooyman — Published on Oct 26, 2020 08:21 PM"

matey

now with extra dumb at no extra charge

schestowitz_TR

2 years ago https://www.fsf.org/resources/videos

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Videos — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

matey

Oct 26, 2020 <- haha

matey

/me throws eggs at cambridge

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wWqU1ynYSrM

matey

Jun 21 03:31

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Jun 21 03:31

matey

<schestowitz_TR> now unable to be a revotionary force <schestowitz_TR> which is what the coup plotters wanted <- its what they got

matey

we can twist reality into a pretty picture

matey

and bullshit people into thinking the coup was unsuccessful

matey

obviously roy never say THEY LIVE

matey

saw

schestowitz_TR

they already did this in 2007 ish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live

matey

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | They Live - Wikipedia

schestowitz_TR

after "bad vista"

schestowitz_TR

after that the FSF did "7 sins"

schestowitz_TR

and then pretty much nothing about Windows

matey

youre downplaying again

schestowitz_TR

because some members said it was "negative"

schestowitz_TR

here's one reason to dislike cops

schestowitz_TR

they do "negative" things

schestowitz_TR

they disrupt crimes

schestowitz_TR

they arrest people

schestowitz_TR

so negative

schestowitz_TR

Microsoft does crimes

schestowitz_TR

but speaking about it in a Web page is "negative"

schestowitz_TR

we should just stay out of the way

schestowitz_TR

and let Acosta et al deal with the crimes

matey

its like a ball pit, but with straws instead of balls

schestowitz_TR

it's not like Microsoft can pull strings with authorities

schestowitz_TR

trust the system ;-)

matey

full of countless colourful straws

matey

yes youre very avant garde

mjg59_

m1k3: Oh, it's not Roy that I'm trying to understand

matey

someday when they can fully appreciate it theyll say you were ahead of your time

2009 http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | Techrights

m1k3

Techrights "after dark" is pretty intense

http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza “is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community,” Says Richard Stallman | Techrights

schestowitz_TR

he and I both get "flak" for merely stating a fact

matey

practice runs

schestowitz_TR

which was proven more true later

schestowitz_TR

he joined codeplex

mjg59_

m1k3: It's the other people here who are genuinely invested in free software

schestowitz_TR

and later Microsoft

schestowitz_TR

he literally worked for criminals

matey

m1k3: It's the other people here who are genuinely invested in free software <- :)

schestowitz_TR

for personal gain (money)

matey

you know the funny thing is

matey

stating something thats factual has nothing to do with who you are

matey

its purely about whats being said

matey

context is everything of course

matey

but sometimes things seem so obvious

mjg59_

matey: I do learn some useful things from stuff Roy says, I just don't feel that he's someone I need to understand

matey

and yet, some things are simply factual

https://www.osnews.com/story/22225/rms-de-icaza-traitor-to-free-software-community/

schestowitz_TR

matey

I just don't feel that he's someone I need to understand <- even if you needed to

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RMS: De Icaza Traitor to Free Software Community – OSnews

schestowitz_TR

see comments

matey

its really not rocket science

matey

roy and i have agreed on a number of things

mjg59_

matey: I'm way more curious about people like you, and I've learned a lot from being here as a result

matey

but for me, facts are data

matey

and for some people, facts are...

matey

well, props

matey

for setting a stage

matey

for god knows what

mjg59_

Like, it's super obvious that there's no way to build a broad consortium of free software people with corporate backing

matey

matey: I'm way more curious about people like you <- the funny thing is

matey

i say what i mean

mjg59_

Which isn't really a surprise! But it's good to know

matey

i mean

mjg59_

So we need to ensure that any future organisations aren't beholden to corporate sponsorship

matey

we need to ensure that any future organisations aren't beholden to corporate sponsorship <- that of course is true

matey

but im only willing to do certain things to those ends

matey

in other words, that matters but its obviously not the only thing that matters

matey

there are some things im not willing to throw out

matey

but if i thought it was needed to throw out those things to see a future without corporate control...

matey

i clearly do not

matey

at any rate, at least youre coherent

matey

i mean

matey

its not just an endless slapping together of... whatever

mjg59_

I try to be consistent

matey

theres a path your arguments follow, at least

mjg59_

I don't always live up to my standards, but

matey

consistency isnt the greatest virtue there is

matey

but coherence is a plus

mjg59_

Like I said, I benefit from getting better understanding of the root causes of our disagreement

techrights-news

"As the title of the book suggests, it questions just how much good the wealthy and large corporations actually intend to do with their rather public acts of philanthropy" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmi

matey

and theyre at least related

mjg59_

Even if that doesn't make me agree, it helps me understand

techrights-news

"It gives several examples through interviews with people who were in university in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, and who sipped the kool aid. They wound up working for big name investment firms under the impression that they would in fact make a huge, positive impact on the world" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmi

matey

i mean the weakness of consistency is that sometimes things prove to be wrong

matey

i certainly dont have to explain that to you

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matey

but its what i mean

matey

coherence isnt worried about that

techrights-news

"They’re the sort that try to squeeze every last drop of productivity from their day to put toward the job, and that’s on top of working crazy hours. Worse, it seems that there are a lot more of these people than the ones that leave" gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmi

matey

it moves past mistakes and still tries to stay true to context, even when some things prove wrong

techrights-news

"they’re so distracted by the tasks they are assigned that they don’t have time to notice just how little impact on the world they are having. They would probably be horrified if they realized that many of them are likely causing more harm than good in the long run." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmi

matey

call it a "higher consistency"

matey

but not for convenience, only for--

matey

its like science

techrights-news

"One of the big arguments being put forward is that these corporations and wealthy people are creating these projects that claim to want to make the world better so that they can control them. This way they can point the altruistic people working under them in one direction." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/altruist-capture.gmi

matey

we ditch luminiferous aether

matey

but we dont throw out the whole universe

matey

we learn from mistakes and move forward, refining the picture

techrights-news

ltruist-capture.gmi

matey

but theres a lot of coherence in science, it tries to make things as objective and universal as possible

matey

within reason

mjg59_

Obviously my understanding of free software is influenced by having spent a lot of time contributing to it from within a corporate context

matey

unfortunately

techrights-news

"all of this is basically altruist capture. Just as corporations have been involved with regulatory capture for years, effectively removing the teeth from regulators so that large businesses can do as they please, they are gobbling up young, intelligent, motivated people, and saddling them with a ton of corporate busy work so that they don’t even have the opportunity to do anything that would threaten corporate interests"

mjg59_

And maybe my opinions about the benefits of that are more broad than they should be as a result

matey

at least youre not afraid to be critical of authority figures

matey

im not saying thats worked out for the best

techrights-news

"If they really wanted to fix the world, stopping that sort of nonsense would be a good start, and many of these people have the skills to potentially put a good size dent in those sort of things. The thing is that it would also put a good sized dent in the profits of the wealthy, and they are not going to have any of that"

matey

but its a vital step either way

mjg59_

But my interest in free software being a place that's welcoming as opposed to one that focused on platforming poisonous people as long as they say the right things in a specific context isn't related to that

matey

yeah i mean

matey

ive tried to familiarise myself with that approach

mjg59_

Pocock is anti-corporate, but he's also viciously attacked people who've spent a lot of their lives working on free software

matey

i dont think pocock is too useful at this point

matey

but i think he was at one point-- whether incidentally or by nature

matey

he played a role

matey

i notice his mailing list is defunct

mjg59_

Yeah

DaemonFC

<schestowitz_TR> who was driven to it by SFPF

matey

and his website came from his mailing list

DaemonFC

I was nearly driven to suicide by the police.

DaemonFC

Nobody cared.

matey

as surely as techrights comes from this irc (which is only half true, but significantly)

DaemonFC

They took the side of a pedophile and an illegal immigrant that he met on Grindr.

matey

if his mailing list is gone, i wonder if/when he will update his website

matey

his website is a mixed bag

techrights-news

"Thumbs up for Mozilla and KDE, mixed reaction to mobile Thunderbird and Microsoft, AI definitely isn’t sentient, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-182/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 182 – Late Night Linux

matey

full of what i consider interesting information, some of which i believe to be true

matey

and some hyperbole so over the top maybe godwin was right

matey

i think pocock doesnt know what hes doing, but i think he tried

matey

as for his motivations, i think at least some of them were good

matey

others its up for debate

mjg59_

I think he believes he's doing good

matey

of note is the fact that most people willing to attack him arent people im sympathetic to in the first place

matey

I think he believes he's doing good <- yeah, me too

matey

thats a lower bar than people realise

mjg59_

And a bunch of things have happened that have resulted in him having an unfair view of a bunch of people

matey

and it applies to so much more than pocock!

techrights-news

Lessons of Social Control Media from BBSs | The Changelog ⚓ https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10393-lessons-of-social-media-from-bbss ䷉ Source: changelog

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Lessons of Social Media from BBSs | The Changelog

mjg59_

But that doesn't mean he's not hurting people

matey

well, pause for a moment

DaemonFC

The police drive a lot of people to suicide who don't deserve it.

matey

because here is something profound, and i wasnt the one who said it

matey

but i think most people will miss it, because most people do

techrights-news

GNOME Devs Mockup the Linux Image Viewer I’ve Been Dreaming Of • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166274

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Devs Mockup the Linux Image Viewer I’ve Been Dreaming Of | Tux Machines

DaemonFC

You just don't hear about it a lot.

schestowitz_TR

true

schestowitz_TR

police can ruin lives

schestowitz_TR

even kids' lives

matey

b"I think he believes he's doing good"

schestowitz_TR

like kids who send nudes to kid friends

schestowitz_TR

and the police makes it worse

schestowitz_TR

by threatening to destroy their lives

DaemonFC

Yeah, the police come in and bust them for taking pictures of themselves.

DaemonFC

Nab the other one for having the nudes.

schestowitz_TR

that's one example of many

mjg59_

Spoiler I am never going to stan the cops

schestowitz_TR

the cops don't; get proper training

DaemonFC

And it's not some old pervert involved in it that goes to prison.

mjg59_

Basically every police force I've ever been subject to has been evil

DaemonFC

The cops don't want proper training.

DaemonFC

They join up because it's unlimited power with a paycheck and a gun.

DaemonFC

There's a certain psychology behind it, you know.

matey

the police always serve the same master

matey

once you understand this, it doesnt matter who becomes a policeman/policewoman

DaemonFC

Today I'm going to pull over a bunch of people who were harmlessly speeding a little and who didn't have any money and put them $300 in court debt that spirals out of control.

mjg59_

One literally collaborated with terrorists to murder people

techrights-news

“People aren’t the problem. The problem is the platforms.” https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10393-lessons-of-social-media-from-bbss

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Lessons of Social Media from BBSs | The Changelog

DaemonFC

Followed by ruining some guy's life due to fake reports from his girlfriend.

matey

anyone here could join the police

DaemonFC

And maybe after lunch I'll shoot someone because I can make up any story I want and plant drugs on the corpse.

mjg59_

One was described in an official report as "Institutionally racist"

matey

it wouldnt change a thing

mjg59_

One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black people

matey

and if everyone joined the police

matey

it wouldnt be the police

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black people

matey

One was subject to a federal consent decree for just straight up killing Black people <- police always serve the same master

matey

its a known fact that master is racist

DaemonFC

The Chicago Police entered into a consent decree on Obama's way out.

DaemonFC

And Trump spent 4 years ignoring every violation of it.

matey

its NOT hard to understand that police are institutionally racist

matey

its one of the most obvious things in the world

mjg59_

And one literally bombed the mayor's house

matey

even black cops are racist

matey

its insane

DaemonFC

There's a lot of racist black people.

matey

dfc of course will say "if even black cops are racist that should tell you something!"

DaemonFC

There's a lot of racist all kinds of people, and a lot of them get a free pass.

matey

it does, but it doesnt tell me what he thinks it should

matey

hes not capable of zooming out and seeing the big picture

matey

he cherrypicks but doesnt know hes cherrypicking

matey

there IS a better explanation

mjg59_

Dude still pretends he didn't sign me up to a bunch of spam lists

matey

but he settles for one he favours

DaemonFC

Oh I'm not all that racist really.

matey

i mean you were both younger

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DaemonFC

The person I see stealing my catalytic converter is going to be just as shot as the next one.

matey

today such things are like federal crimes

mjg59_

Yeah but all I did was say "Hey, you're wrong about the details of this thing"

matey

but back in the day, that shit was just funny

matey

now its like, terrorism or something

matey

well yeah, people on the internet...

mjg59_

Eh it took like hours to deal with that shit

matey

i mean im sure weve both had death threats

matey

i know i have

matey

i fucking hate lennart poettering, for so many things

mjg59_

Thankfully most of the lists in question used the same broken software that added a custom header I could filter on

matey

but even if i headed an international crime syndicate

matey

i dont think id do more than prank him

matey

he set my life off in a direction im not too unhappy about

DaemonFC

I've done so much worse than that and freely admit to it. Why would I say I didn't do THAT if I did?

matey

he helped destroyed gnu/linux (imo) but he coudlnt have done it without LOTS of help

matey

im not a fan

mjg59_

DaemonFC: So a kid in Canada who'd never met you just coincidentally gave me your IP address?

matey

but death threats are over the top

matey

<mjg59_> Eh it took like hours to deal with that shit <- exactly

DaemonFC

Let's see, I got someone thrown out of the military under DADT for breaking up with me.

matey

its like tp'ing your home

mjg59_

I mean

mjg59_

I literally have the emails in question

DaemonFC

I mean, you get me mad enough and I'll figure something out and it'll be a lot better than some damned emails.

mjg59_

Maybe someone hacked you and used your computer to sign me up

mjg59_

But that doesn't seem likely

DaemonFC

You know a lot of people have said I was wrong about something, and if I really am wrong, I'm just as happy to be wrong.

Jun 21 04:02

mjg59_

Don't really know what to say other than that someone who'd never met you and who I hadn't mentioned your name to gave me the same IP address you were using to join IRC at the time

matey

mjg: if you know he did it

matey

and its pretty obvious

matey

and you fixed it in hours

DaemonFC

The only reason you knew the IP address was because I was on IRC that was logged and displayed in a public server.

matey

why try so hard to get him to admit it?

mjg59_

DaemonFC: No, I have an email from the kid in Canada with your IP address in it

mjg59_

matey: Eh some vague desire for closure

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matey

i mean some people just double down until theyre literally dead

DaemonFC

Okay, and if he saw the same log you did, he'd know it too.

mjg59_

Yeah it's not really rational

matey

ive dealt with people who took such bullshit to the grave

matey

oh, people arent rational

matey

i mean rational is NICE but its not common

mjg59_

DaemonFC: Uh he wasn't an Ubuntu user

mjg59_

He was some kid running a Quake server who IRCed with the people who set up Spamza

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DaemonFC

You remind me of Steve Gibson.

matey

i mean, you know what happened

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DaemonFC

Have I ever told you that?

matey

thats all the closure you need

matey

you can find people who can tell the obvious

mjg59_

matey: Yeah I guess it's just frustrating having someone repeatedly deny it

matey

oh, well yea

DaemonFC

Set up an entire website to complain that he was a security expert who got DDoSed by a 13 year old in Minnesota or something.

mjg59_

But you're right that it's clearly never happening

matey

i mean gaslighting is a bitch

matey

plus

Jun 21 04:06

matey

and im not saying this to defend anyone in particular

matey

but theres always a snowballs chance in hell he actually didnt do it

matey

sometimes when the evidence is overwhelming

matey

i mean, every day you put your feet on the floor

matey

because youre more or less certain its there

matey

its not a theory you really need to test every morning

matey

but i suppose if one day its not like that, anyone would be surprised, right?

matey

still it doesnt keep physicists awake at night

DaemonFC

It all rather seems circumstantial.

DaemonFC

Highly speculative.

matey

because some things really are pretty obvious

DaemonFC

I'd go as far as to say prejudicial even.

matey

meaning you dont have to spend your whole life second guessing everything infiniately

matey

it wouldnt even be sane to do so

matey

sometimes you can settle on the obvious and move on, at least until really exceptional evidence to the contrary comes along

DaemonFC

I'm just sitting here with the popcorn waiting for San Francisco to be ruined by the next dotcom bubble bursting.

mjg59_

A third party with no link to you gave me your IP address

mjg59_

That's literally not circumstantial

DaemonFC

These app companies are going bye bye soon.

matey

but there seem to be exceptions to every rule

DaemonFC

The only reason any of this went on so long is because of basically free money.

DaemonFC

Everything in the real world here is grinding to a halt. It was already there from when times were better, it's seen better days, and it's rotting away.

DaemonFC

Like my house my grandfather built.

DaemonFC

Nobody has any money to keep these things going because the real economy died a long time ago.

DaemonFC

So they just throw new paint on it every once in a while and let it fall apart. Live in it while they can.

schestowitz_TR

1970s

mjg59_

Sigh this involves me actually digging out backups

DaemonFC

*the house

matey

mjg59_ <- if i were going to tell you what to do

DaemonFC

schestowitz_TR, I'd put it more in the 1990s.

matey

i have a completely different set of suggestions, so this isnt about that

matey

but just as an idea

DaemonFC

There was still plenty of real stuff happening until the mid 90s, early 2000s.

matey

go somewhere, anywhere, to learn everything you can about cluster b personality disorders

schestowitz_TR

90s was peak fantasy

schestowitz_TR

2000 was first blowup

matey

for two reasons: maybe three

matey

first, youll understand

matey

90s was peak fantasy <- oh i dont know

matey

first, youll understand the tech industry better than you ever have

mjg59_

matey: Ha for various reasons I actually have a bunch of experience in that respect

matey

second, it will bring you complete peace about this spam thing

matey

Ha for various reasons I actually have a bunch of experience <- i dont doubt it, this is about application.

DaemonFC

Nobody is having kids, the whole world is falling apart. Yosemite just got washed away.

DaemonFC

5 states are about to have NO water.

matey

experience can be helpful and misleading at the same time

mjg59_

matey: It's hard to get a good read of someone's personality just over the internet

DaemonFC

And one mjg59_ is ranting about something that allegedly happened in 2008.

matey

theory can help sort it all out

matey

books, even youtube videos! can be VERY informative

mjg59_

Funny, I didn't say anything about 2008 here

matey

shed light on all sorts of little details that YEARS of personal experience could miss

mjg59_

Sounds like you have some awareness of the situation

matey

even if you saw them with your own eyes

matey

It's hard to get a good read of someone's personality just over the internet <- yes

matey

but behaviour is easier

matey

sometimes

DaemonFC

Err Yellowstone, I meant. Tired.

DaemonFC

Well, Yosemite is fucked too.

DaemonFC

They're logging old growth trees that have been there for hundreds of years so boomers can wipe their asses on them.

matey

for example

matey

once you can prove that youre up against every sign of just... lying

matey

the need to prove x is a lie mostly just falls away

mjg59_

DaemonFC: Anyway you did at the time talk about being in contact with the Spamza people

matey

not entirely... i mean, someone whos an alcoholic is always an alcoholic

matey

but they can also live without alcohol

matey

if you can prove within reason, even to yoursel

matey

that somoene will always lie

DaemonFC

I think I was trying to ask them what the hell was going on.

matey

the thing theyre lying about DEFINITELY becomes less of an issue

matey

it goes from being a thing that niggles at you to something you can kind of laugh at

matey

because you realise how silly people are

DaemonFC

But so many important things have happened since 2008 that I don't even remember the year 2008 that well.

matey

you also realise theyre just really fucked up and

mjg59_

Urgh extracting half a terrabyte onto rotating media

matey

ultimately theres very little revenge you could get that would ever be on par with them just being then

matey

of course

matey

youll still want to prove it :)

matey

only real difference is

matey

now it wont matter much if you never do :)

mjg59_

In this case I'm just going to try to find this one email and then that's it

DaemonFC

<schestowitz_TR> here's one reason to dislike cops

DaemonFC

<schestowitz_TR> they do "negative" things

DaemonFC

<schestowitz_TR> they disrupt crimes

matey

its unfortunate we are connected to an industry that is like 90% bullshitters

DaemonFC

Relying on the state for "protection" is a mistake.

matey

some because they like it, and several because they believe its a requirement

matey

(because it nearly is-- nearly)

mjg59_

When I die I'd like people to say that I was wrong but believed I was right

DaemonFC

Because when the people who have a hit out on me show up at my front door step, it's not going to be the police they need to worry about.

matey

well i already think you were wrong :)

matey

its at least possible you believed you were right

mjg59_

Yeah it's really about whether I was just saying stuff I actually disagreed with for some sort of benefit

DaemonFC

MARISOL took out a million dollar life insurance policy on my spouse (which I had to get canceled).

DaemonFC

THe police did nothing, even though she did it from her iPhone, using her real IP address.

matey

just know that

DaemonFC

And even though that's a felony.

matey

when i say that narcissism is curable but it depends ENTIRELY on the determination of the narcissist

matey

and it almost never happens (though it is possible)

matey

its NOT just a roundabout way of picking on you

matey

im talking about an industry here

matey

a complete environment of utter fuckery

DaemonFC

The "church" they're in is a terrorist group. If you tell Immigration Canada that church has a hit out on you, they'll give you a refugee visa so you don't have to go back to the Philippines.

DaemonFC

But they've killed at least three people in Canada, and a few in the US.

DaemonFC

I have absolutely no intention to go out like that, so I conceal and carry.

Jun 21 04:23

matey

i also think capitalism plays a large role in this

Jun 21 04:23

matey

but i avoided anticapitalism for as long as i could

Jun 21 04:23

matey

it was actually free software that made me believe libertarianism was a real possible thing

DaemonFC

I'd like to have at least a fighting chance if they come for me.

matey

and my brand of anticapitalism still leans sort of libertarianish

matey

but anti-corporate

matey

when you have an infection, pus can form-- happens all the time, no big deal

matey

an abcess on the other hand, is a real problem

matey

this is a metaphor for corporations

matey

theyre capitalist abcesses

mjg59_

matey: Y'know this is interesting

mjg59_

Free software was what convinced me libertarianism wasn't viable

matey

matey

me too

matey

at first, they made me think

matey

look, this could work

DaemonFC

I have logs of John discussing with other men how they wanted him to come over and rape their children in front of them.

matey

but the events of 2018-present proved that wrong (imo)

DaemonFC

I'm sure the TSA found those interesting.

matey

i wont forgive capitalism for what happened

mjg59_

My anti-corporatism is still of the socialist type, which I don't think is where you are

matey

oh you dont think im socialist?

matey

thats ok, but i find it funny

mjg59_

Oh! Honestly it wasn't entirely clear

fuzzy

i think it is the consumerist/corporate interests, which destroy _technical_ qualities, of software

mjg59_

I guess we've never really talked about the role of the state in any of this

fuzzy

historically, software and computers were designed for: SCIENTIFIC work

DaemonFC

mjg59_, So your secret plan to defeat Capitalism is to write DRM for them?

DaemonFC

That sounds like a really crappy plan to me.

mjg59_

I'd interpreted you as being both anti-corporate and anti-state

matey

it always comes down to what you mean by socialism doesnt it

fuzzy

meanwhile, GNU/FSF followed too far along what consumers/corproations want

mjg59_

My partner's an anarchist, so I'm used to disagreement on this topic

matey

whats your take on ubi?

matey

not the most important question, more for fun

mjg59_

I'm conceptually in favour but suspect that most current tech-backed efforts nominally in favour of UBI are not good things

matey

of course

matey

i think in the short run its a great idea

fuzzy

if i may, ubi is a political scam... if ubi doesn't pay rent, nor does it imply any "right to work"

matey

i woudlnt opposse it

matey

<fuzzy> <- funny that you support "right to work"

matey

which is also a great idea

fuzzy

it's just, the bureaucratic apparatus, of the state, who had some responsibility, to plan and organize work/employment

fuzzy

with surrounding social legislation, are relieved, then, from any responsibility

fuzzy

UBI, eat or die, we don't care...

matey

mj59_ if we disagree on socialism

matey

its because you think socialism depends on the state

matey

which it SORT OF DOES, in the short tun

matey

run

matey

and i dont think thats a problem

matey

in the long run the state is irrelevant

matey

and in the short run its unavoidable

matey

people trying to get rid of the state as the first step-- that will never work

matey

its like trying to take off training wheels before you can move your legs

Jun 21 04:31

matey

wtf is that going to achieve?

Jun 21 04:31

matey

if people make socialism work

Jun 21 04:31

matey

they wont have to worry about the state

Jun 21 04:32

matey

it will have served its purpose

Jun 21 04:32

mjg59_

Sorry to pause this the dog just threw up on the rug

Jun 21 04:33

matey

the dog just threw up on the rug <- they do that

Jun 21 04:33

mjg59_

The dog is bigger than me, so it's kind of an elaborate thing to deal with

Jun 21 04:43

matey

oh yeah

Jun 21 04:43

matey

even small dogs can create incredible amounts of it, not unlike babies

Jun 21 04:44

matey

lending credence to the many-worlds hypothesis, because where else does all that shit come from

Jun 21 04:44

matey

i know a dog (not mine) that thinks hes a goat

matey

and so he keeps eating things that needs surgically removed

mjg59_

I managed to scoot them off the rug halfway through so it could have been worse

mjg59_

And at least we have a pet vacuum for this purpose

matey

theres a good product idea, honestly

matey

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matey

there are some good points of course

mjg59_

iRobot's entire advertising program for their new Roombas is that they can recognise pet waste before running into it and smearing it everywhere

matey

my issue with irobot of course is they make houseplans available to some internet-based entity

matey

which for me is a dealbreaker

matey

theyre also non-free

matey

other than these two things i think irobot is fucking cool shit

matey

but i wouldnt own one

matey

i would expect everyone who works on self-driving cars to

matey

because theyre self-driving hoovers

matey

granted if a car self-drove itself anything like a roomba

matey

people would have already switched back to horse and buggies

matey

"yeah it shits everywhere but at least it knows where its going!"

Jun 21 04:51

mjg59_

Roombas are kind of like Teslas now - trying to solve everything with vision

Jun 21 04:51

matey

somehow thats worse

Jun 21 04:51

mjg59_

Neatos use lidar instead, which is more like most other autonomus vehicle approaches

matey

i thought tesla used lidar too

mjg59_

Nope

matey

there you have it

mjg59_

They used to have radar as well, but dropped it last year because of supply chain issues

matey

oh ok

mjg59_

Elon's super anti-lidar

mjg59_

His argument is that humans can drive without lidar, so what can't a car

matey

any particular reason?

mjg59_

And the obvious answer is that humans are better at this than a fairly low power embedded ARM with some custom logic

mjg59_

Also, humans drive into things a lot

mjg59_

To be fair Tesla's trying to solve a much harder problem than the rest of the industry and if they're successful then fair play

Jun 21 04:54

mjg59_

But I don't think anyone who works on this stuff outside Tesla is optimistic (I should say that I don't have much insight into the actual autonomy stack on our products so this is not a super-informed opinion)

matey

is the rest of the industry focusing more exclusively on "obstacle avoidance" or something?

mjg59_

Basically everyone else is video + radar + lidar

mjg59_

Get as much information as possible and throw it into a much bigger computer than Tesla use

matey

mmhmm

Jun 21 04:56

mjg59_

Radar does make things harder - it's really hard to distinguish between stationary objects that are actually on the road and stationary objects that are around the road (like sign gantries)

mjg59_

If you use radar without using other information sources then you tend to end up ignoring stationary objects that suddenly appear

matey

that sounds bad

mjg59_

Like if there's a fire truck parked in a lane and the car in front of you pulls out to overtake it

mjg59_

Which is a significant percentage of the Tesla autopilot crashes

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> iRobot's entire advertising program for their new Roombas is that they can recognise pet waste before running into it and smearing it everywhere

matey

but what about others?

DaemonFC

These things are still fucking stupid.

matey

a more significant percentage?

mjg59_

matey: Actually a hard question! Everyone else uses lidar as well, which in theory lets you distinguish

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mjg59_

But the number of highway miles driven by Teslas is *way( higher than everyone else

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mjg59_

So I have a gut feeling, but I don't have numbers to substantiate it

matey

and you work for a related company but

mjg59_

As far as I know, only collision we've had is someone blowing a stop sign and driving into one of our vehicles

matey

theres no problem saying this about research

matey

even if it makes tesla sound better than your company

mjg59_

Like I said, Tesla's trying to solve a much harder problem

mjg59_

Making cars behave like humans

mjg59_

Except better

matey

and thats-- i mean your company wouldnt be unhappy about you saying that?

matey

is it just-- theyre more interested in the science than sheer competition, or hwat

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matey

its less interesting than the science part of it but im still curious

mjg59_

I don't think anyone in the industry disagrees with that

DaemonFC

I'd probably buy an electric Buick. At least that's a real company.

matey

/me nods

DaemonFC

If there was anywhere to plug it in.

mjg59_

But I don't think many people in the industry think the problem that Tesla is trying to solve is something that can be solved with existing tech

DaemonFC

Tesla will fail.

matey

DaemonFC

In 5 years, we will go "Oh yeah, Tesla. Remember that?".

mjg59_

Everyone else is trying to solve an easier problem

matey

i like solving easier problems, personally

mjg59_

Which is "How do we drive on a subset of roads with a lot more sensory information than humans have"

matey

people that can solve harder problems, thats cool too

DaemonFC

How to make electric cars as a profitable company with years to get it right now that Tesla has worked out all the shitty alpha product bugs?

matey

its very much my approach to look for easier routes to problem solving-- within reason of course

DaemonFC

It's still a shitty beta project, but Tesla is a company that doesn't make profit.

DaemonFC

So they cut corners and they're super sketchy about how they treat you if you get a total lemon.

matey

occasionally, easier is cheap or worthless. but a lot of times its just "work smarter, not harder"

mjg59_

I mean, "Worse is Better" is kind of how Unix won

DaemonFC

One guy gave them $160,000, the battery was so defective that it couldn't get half the stated range, new, in good weather, so they said they'd take it back and refund his money.

DaemonFC

That was two years ago.

matey

thats what they say

DaemonFC

They're still taking payments out of his bank accoutn for a car he doesn't even have and stonewalling him about the "refund".

mjg59_

Shipping something that works and is easy to deal with is preferable to something that's conceptually better but compromised as a result

Jun 21 05:05

matey

i dont know if waterfall gave us anything i prefer

Jun 21 05:05

DaemonFC

Besides, gasoline engines have gotten much more efficient.

Jun 21 05:05

DaemonFC

There's people out there driving V8s with a SUV the size of a house that get better gas mileage than I do, and still whining about gas prices.

matey

i wonder if "worse is better" will/does apply to hardware or not

matey

it doesnt with dell laptops at least

DaemonFC

Of course, it takes so much technology, that the reliability takes a dump.

mjg59_

In some ways

DaemonFC

And you want rid of the car before the warranty expires.

matey

foom

DaemonFC

So there's a price to be paid for that "efficiency".

mjg59_

See how long x86 has been triumphant

mjg59_

Nothing about the design is good, but a combination of factors conspired to outcompete everything else for decades

matey

i think part of that is more about shady practices

mjg59_

It's good to see meaningful competition there now

matey

but it obviously works, im using it now

DaemonFC

Modern cars in general are all like $60,000 and even those fall apart.

DaemonFC

Just not as bad as their compliance cars do.

matey

as with network effects, having such a consistent platform has advantages

Jun 21 05:08

matey

and costs

Jun 21 05:08

matey

throw in what theyve done to stay relevant, and it can be ugly too

Jun 21 05:08

matey

meaningful competition is the only hope imo

matey

im not in a hurry to scrap my x86 stuff

matey

but it would be nice

matey

i wasnt in a hurry to scrap linux but it made me very happy to do so

mjg59_

Yeah I'll be glad to get off x86

matey

before i managed it i spent years talking about it

mjg59_

Except right now Apple's really the only vendor who has something competitive in laptop/desktop space

matey

being quite forward about the fact that i hadnt managed it yet

mjg59_

And I do appreciate that Apple aren't utterly fucking over free software on their new hardware, but still

matey

right now comes and goes very quickly

matey

right now if i HAD TO buy a self driving car

matey

im sure it would be a tesla

matey

which doesnt make me a fan

matey

And I do appreciate that Apple aren't utterly fucking over free software on their new hardware <- im sure theyll get to it

mjg59_

Dunno if Tesla started complying with the GPL yet

mjg59_

matey: They explicitly modified their firmware to make it easier to run Linux

mjg59_

I mean, they haven't documented anything

matey

yeah but heres the thing about that seriously

matey

people make gestures and peace offerings all the time

mjg59_

But they did ensure that their systems could run free software

mjg59_

So it could be a lot worse

matey

its still one of the largest corporations in tech

matey

and its going to act like that

mjg59_

Better than a lot of Android

matey

theres no loyalty to anything but profit in the long term

matey

oh android is shit on toast

matey

if you gave me $5000 to spend on android

matey

i wouldnt bother

matey

it would only be $5000 of crap

matey

unless it got me a pinephone or something

Jun 21 05:13

matey

then i might

Jun 21 05:13

matey

They explicitly modified their firmware to make it easier to run Linux <- this is a good business move

Jun 21 05:15

matey

/me thinks back to when dell jumped on that bandwagon, and how that worked out

Jun 21 05:16

matey

its not exactly the same because historically dell is pushed around more by microsoft than apple is

Jun 21 05:16

matey

but i still think apples move is similar-- a business move, like it could be anything else

Jun 21 05:17

matey

tomorrow it wont mean anything, theyre not in the linux business

Jun 21 05:17

matey

theyre in the apple business

Jun 21 05:17

matey

ibm bought red hat, and theyre still not in the red hat business

Jun 21 05:18

matey

theyre in the ibm business

Jun 21 05:18

matey

an investment shouldnt make people think they care about something

Jun 21 05:18

matey

theyre putting money where they think it will get them more money

Jun 21 05:19

matey

for as long as that lasts, which is very often not long

Jun 21 05:19

matey

people should think of investments like digging a well

Jun 21 05:20

matey

theyll go there until it runs dry-- then they wont

matey

people think "this means theyre going to care about the water table"

matey

no, it means theyre going to take water out of the ground, thats all

matey

thats the fullness of the committment

matey

people are wise to this, so companies now say "we are doing this because of a long-term interest in the sustainabilty of the water table"

Jun 21 05:22

matey

but of course thats bullshit

Jun 21 05:22

matey

extraction isnt caring

Jun 21 05:23

matey

business is mostly about extraction

Jun 21 05:23

matey

the history of capitalism is that when the well runs dry, they go where they can dig new ones

Jun 21 05:24

matey

sustainability costs too much in the short run. its at odds with their goals

Jun 21 05:25

matey

but the short version is apple doesnt care about one goddamned thing in the whole world

Jun 21 05:25

matey

it cant, it never will

Jun 21 05:25

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matey

it just extracts things

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matey

and it cares as much as hf/hcl cares about etching glass

Jun 21 05:27

matey

even if you take the most caring person in the world behind the wheel of something like apple

matey

its a runaway train

matey

they might be able to lessen the damage it does, while derailing the whole thing

matey

then someone takes the money and builds another runaway train

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Jun 21 05:37

DaemonFC

<mjg59_> Yeah I'll be glad to get off x86

Jun 21 05:43

DaemonFC

Just as soon as Microsoft tells you which other platform they need you to help ruin?

Jun 21 05:44

mjg59_

Y'know weirdly the extent to which I work with Microsoft is driven by what other people want to work, not by what Microsoft wants

Jun 21 05:48

matey

it probably sounds like a square circle

Jun 21 05:49

matey

but id be more interested in not giving microsoft what they want, no matter what other people think they want

Jun 21 05:49

matey

you have to imagine what a world would be like without all these cults

matey

then do things for that world

matey

of course i realise that intermediate steps are also necessary

matey

just not all of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastline_paradox

matey

theres an infinite number of intermediate steps. if some arent ignored, it would take an infinite amount of time to traverse them

Jun 21 05:51

matey

if zeno were a douchebag, he would exploit this

Jun 21 05:52

matey

others do

Jun 21 05:52

matey

theres another practical example of zenos paradox

Jun 21 05:53

matey

Jun 21 05:54

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Jun 21 05:54

matey

i like intermediate steps

Jun 21 05:55

matey

the trick is knowing which ones to step on, and which ones to step over

Jun 21 05:55

matey

theres no way to get it right all the time

Jun 21 05:56

matey

you just have to get it right often enough that real progress doesnt take forever

Jun 21 05:56

matey

the opposite problem is too many shortcuts

Jun 21 05:57

matey

also leading to defeat

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Jun 21 05:58

matey

people probably know this on some level so they all have their own methods of figuring out which steps are important and which ones are a costly waste of time

Jun 21 05:58

matey

if you rank them, you see that some methods will never work

Jun 21 05:58

techrights-ipfs-bot

matey

some have shown real promise but obviously havent gotten us there

matey

yet

matey

the ones that will never work can be discarded

matey

theyre the ones promoted most heavily by parties who hope we never get there :)

matey

and some people who promote them are innocents who get fooled by the approach

Jun 21 06:00

matey

i believed in open source more than a decade ago

Jun 21 06:00

matey

it was an innocent mistake unaware of the real nature of open source

Jun 21 06:00

matey

its still a terrible idea

Jun 21 06:01

matey

one that will never work

Jun 21 06:01

matey

it has an infinite number of steps between here and user freedom

Jun 21 06:01

matey

reform isnt so bad

Jun 21 06:02

matey

if enough people count on it, it goes nowhere

Jun 21 06:03

matey

we need more than reform, because for every step forward they have more than that to send us back

Jun 21 06:03

matey

i didnt study ee but i think the term "impedance mismatch" applies

Jun 21 06:04

matey

so does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interference_(wave_propagation)

Jun 21 06:04

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Jun 21 06:04

matey

stallman had a revolutionary idea-- im not saying hes the only one

Jun 21 06:08

matey

the fsf is reformist, and at this point so is stallman (im not sure he was ever more than a reformer)

Jun 21 06:08

matey

oskar schindler was a very heroic reformer

matey

in a time of crisis, reformers can do a great deal of good

matey

imagine relying on a bunch of oskar schindlers to end the war in a victory

matey

no matter how good his deeds were

matey

they wouldnt be enough to change the outcome-- only to save handfuls of people

Jun 21 06:10

matey

obviously this is no condemnation of his heroic efforts

Jun 21 06:10

matey

only to say, if you want to change everything

Jun 21 06:10

matey

doing it little by little wont get us there, there have to be leaps forward

Jun 21 06:11

matey

settling for reform would be like

Jun 21 06:11

matey

the vitriol i have for mike godwin is mostly tongue in cheek, but i do wish he would jump in a lake

Jun 21 06:11

matey

at any rate, it would take more schindlers than we will ever have to change the whole thing

Jun 21 06:12

matey

we simply need something bigger than that alone-- if its the most a person can do, thats great

Jun 21 06:13

matey

its not a strategy thats going to win

Jun 21 06:13

matey

open source kept taking what we could do and cutting it in half

Jun 21 06:13

matey

id rather eat stir fry than choke trying to eat a giant steak whole

Jun 21 06:14

matey

but i dont need every meal i consumer turned into nano-particle pablum

Jun 21 06:14

matey

open source keeps making free software infantile and corporate

Jun 21 06:14

matey

its a counterrevolution

Jun 21 06:15

matey

baby stepping right off a cliff

Jun 21 06:15

matey

and its taken over everything

Jun 21 06:15

matey

oh, theres a fine parallel between this and what stalin did too

matey

stalin was in a hurry to get his 5 year plans done at any cost

matey

so everything got turned into quotas

matey

and then quotas would be expanded

matey

more progress! more progress!

matey

its a lot like measuring airplane progress by the pound

Jun 21 06:18

matey

what happened with these quotas was a hard lesson

Jun 21 06:18

matey

to push agriculture "forward" progress was measured in acres tilled

Jun 21 06:18

matey

there are so many analogues of this, in capitalism and in fake political progress

Jun 21 06:19

matey

acres tilled was just one way in which superficiality took over the big plans

Jun 21 06:19

matey

but because everyone was pushed to till as many acres as possible, they cut corners by tilling less deeply

Jun 21 06:19

matey

shallow tilling lead to crop failures

matey

crop failures to famines, and famines obviously to deaths in great numbers

matey

thats what you get for "acres tilled"

matey

thats what shallow measures of "progress" gets the world

matey

its deadly

matey

to say the least, its destructive and self-defeating

Jun 21 06:21

matey

but reform pissing matches still make gold standards of such things

Jun 21 06:21

matey

then wonder why people pile so much hate onto such mistakes

Jun 21 06:21

matey

whats to like about ordering everyone to aim at their foot and fire?

matey

people are going to hate it

matey

so they start shooting anyone who complains :)

matey

no wonder mincer thinks the only answer is for humanity to kill itself

matey

i mean its hard to blame him

Jun 21 06:23

matey

but every stage of human progress thinks its the last one

Jun 21 06:24

matey

and civilisation is pretty adamant about this

Jun 21 06:24

matey

you were nothing before you met me! you can be nothing again!

Jun 21 06:24

matey

it claims the only paths forward are the status quo and going back to what it was like before

Jun 21 06:25

matey

no other options

Jun 21 06:25

matey

i mean find a king who says "yknow, fuck royals, what fucking good are they REALLY"

Jun 21 06:25

matey

every stage of human progress thinks its the highest possible and its all downhill from there

Jun 21 06:26

matey

so you might as well get used to it

Jun 21 06:26

matey

we can still make some pretty amazing and stupid mistakes along the way though

matey

enough to convince mincer its pointless at least

matey

even if we do ever pull off something better

matey

hes going to win this argument in the short run either way

matey

and by the short run i mean the past few centuries...

Jun 21 06:28

matey

its a discomforting trend

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Jun 21 06:29

matey

i think if you focus on the past two centuries though

Jun 21 06:29

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matey

there are hints at something better being possible

matey

and this not NECESSARILY being the last stage of human progress

matey

a lot of which has been glossed over and even rewritten

matey

because people REALLY want us to keep doing things the way we do them now

Jun 21 06:31

matey

even if it kills us

Jun 21 06:31

matey

if enough people figure that out, and take the right steps

matey

theres at least a possibility, however remote, we can do better than oskar schindler

matey

not for pride, not for competition

matey

just to save the human race

*schestowitz_TR back from sleep

Jun 21 06:38

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Jun 21 06:38

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Jun 21 06:39

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schestowitz_TR

<matey> no wonder mincer thinks the only answer is for humanity to kill itself

Jun 21 06:42

schestowitz_TR

we are getting close these days

Jun 21 06:42

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"For the past couple weeks I've been experimenting on the Blackbird to see what window managers and desktop environments seem to work well with Fedora on ppc64le before I try to migrate my main Talos II workstation to whatever I end up picking." ☛ https://www.talospace.com/2022/06/fedora-36-mini-mini-review-on-blackbird.html | Source: Talospace

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financially and morally bankrupt nations have nothing left to lose

matey

thats been true of north korea forever

matey

well obviously not FOREVER

matey

but for long enough to learn something about financially and morally bankrupt nations

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"Himitsu draws inspiration from Plan 9’s factotum, but polished up and redesigned for Unix. At its core, Himitsu is a key/value store and a simple protocol for interacting with it." ☛ https://drewdevault.com/2022/06/20/Himitsu.html | Source: Drew DeVault

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"Most people don’t need a history lesson to know that Google has changed; they feel it. Try searching for a product on your smartphone and you’ll see that what was once a small teal bar featuring one “sponsored link” is now a hard-to-decipher" ☛ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/google-search-algorithm-internet/661325/ | Source: The Atlantic

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Is Google Dying? Or Did the Web Grow Up? - The Atlantic

matey

as for russia it tends to collapse when it overreaches

matey

a lot of times it has help

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matey

but its had one gun aimed squarely at its own foot since the great depression

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Surveillance ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/eu-chat-control-proposal-germany-takes-the-lead-in-defending-confidentiality-of-communications/ | Source: Patrick Breyer

Jun 21 06:46

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Jun 21 06:46

matey

"theyve taken a classic direction, in that there is no direction" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UblSm_0sgb0

Jun 21 06:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Tom and Jerry: Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory – Nostalgia Critic - Invidious

Jun 21 06:48

matey

when shows lose their audience, they start doing celebrity guests

matey

chris martin on extras, in a show that didnt even exist

matey

stephen fry on... thats probably not fair

matey

or maybe it is

matey

either way, im sure theres going to be fun times at the fsf

Jun 21 06:50

matey

now with sunglasses

Jun 21 06:50

matey

deal with it!

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166275

Jun 21 06:53

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matey

i dont like nostalgia critic, hes like a cracked out mike nelson

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Norwegian Meteorological Institute ☛ https://www.salon.com/2022/06/20/red-alert-portions-of-the-arctic-are-warming-much-faster-than-we-thought_partner/ | Source: Salon

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matey

but when hes right hes right

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"This post deals with the claim that the challies.com article represents a genuinely Christian outlook on Bitcoin and blockchain." ☛ https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/the-christian-case-against-bitcoin-and-blockchain/ |

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"Now we learn that Meta has been investigating Sandbag for possible misuse of company resources." ☛ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/sheryl-sandberg-leaving-meta-lean-in-feminism/661291/ | Source: The Atlantic

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matey

and according to the internet, mike nelson is also like a cracked out mike nelson

Jun 21 06:56

matey

which i suppose in fairness to nostalgia critic, is not an intended parallel (as far as i know)

Jun 21 06:56

matey

my mistake was thinking nelson is just a scifi host, but i guess its worse than that

Jun 21 06:57

matey

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Jun 21 06:57

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Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-17-the-llama-master/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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"Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved on Steam Deck, a classic from back in the Xbox 360 days has a version on Steam and it works so beautifully on the Steam Deck." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/geometry-wars-retro-evolved-on-steam-deck-is-absolutely-awesome/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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Saying "Linux" instead of GNU/Linux" is technically, factually, legally false. Unless you mean just the kernel. Merely following the herd and excusing oneself because "everyone else does it" isn't a statement of merit. Quite the opposite. It means social blending was raised about simple facts.

Jun 21 07:01

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"Another update to the free and open source app ProtonUp-Qt giving you a proper user interface for downloading GE-Proton, Luxtorpeda, Wine-GE and others for Steam Deck and GNU/Linux." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/proton-and-wine-updater-protonup-qt-now-shows-anti-cheat-status/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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OpenNox: "Westwood Studios made quite a lot of games like Dune II and the Command & Conquer series but they also made an RPG called Nox, that now lives on with the OpenNox game engine" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/westwood-classic-rpg-nox-lives-on-with-the-opennox-game-engine/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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Microsoft chucks GNOME $10,000 for "political capture" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166130#comment-34077

Jun 21 07:03

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Jun 21 07:03

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Corporates/corporations NEVER give money for free. They cannot. They'd get sued by shareholders. Re GNOME: http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation

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"Heroes of Might and Magic II game engine reimplementation, fheroes2, has another great new release out continuing to be the absolute best way to play this classic on modern platforms." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-reimplementation-gets-big-audio-improvements-and-ai-speedup/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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"Initially an Epic Store exclusive, you can now play The Cycle: Frontier free on Steam and thanks to Proton — on Steam Deck and GNU/Linux desktops." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-cycle-frontier-works-nicely-on-steam-deck-and-linux-desktops/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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"voluntary departure or in the context of the current layoffs we see" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/06/19/episode-328-the-security-of-jobs-or-job-security/

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"This tutorial will explain with examples how to draw charts with LibreOffice Calc. You will need some data prepared beforehand." ☛ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/libreoffice-calc-create-charts.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz

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"When you need to create a table quickly, for whatever numeric data in it, you can always use RANDBETWEEN formula in LibreOffice Calc." ☛ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/libreoffice-calc-create-random-data.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz

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"JasperReports is a Java class library" ☛ https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-jasperreports-on-ubuntu-20-04/ | Source: RoseHosting

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"A while ago, we reviewed "Taskwarrior", a command line task manager to manage your to-do tasks right from the Terminal window." ☛ https://ostechnix.com/please-command-line-todo-manager/ | Source: OSTechNix

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"According to the company, the Dual-Port Logging Shield was designed for easy data transmission using any standard Arduino SD library." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfun-unveils-microsd-data-logging-shield-with-spi-and-usb-c-interfaces/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

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"Hello Linux geeks, welcome to the guide on how install Docker on Fedora 36 step by step. This guide also be applicable to previous versions of Fedora 35/34." ☛ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/install-docker-on-fedora-step-by-step/ | Source: Linux Buzz

Jun 21 07:10

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I visited a friend who is watching Breaking Bad. Now clips appear on my YouTube? | Hacker News ⚓ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31800791 ䷉ Source: news

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'The F-150 Lightning starts at about $40,000, but that's for the base model, and prices quickly climb with traditional pickup truck features. Schmidt paid about a hundred grand for his.' https://text.npr.org/1104920656

Jun 21 07:15

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IDG is crap. It is promoting a false dichotomy of NSA spyware only. GNU/Linux not there, not "proper"... https://www.pcworld.com/article/402141/chromebooks-versus-windows-laptops-which-should-you-buy.html

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A happy solstice

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Pandemic brings out the worst in people and only corporations that choose to kill millions for the sake of patents https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/06/19/asian-americans-firearms-purchases-racism-covid-pandemic/7530782001/

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"The makers of the film "Hellboy" have scored a preliminary victory in Hawaii's federal court." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/judge-recommends-150k-piracy-judgment-against-torrent-site-operator-220620/ | Source: Torrent Freak

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This is for GNU/Linux https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/21/ingenic-t31-based-wifi-ai-camera-development-kit-promises-over-a-year-of-battery-life/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Ingenic T31-based WiFi AI camera development kit promises over a year of battery life - CNX Software

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"Secure Boot" is a joke. It's NOT about security. It's a misnomer. ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/breaking-google-nest-hubs-secure-boot/ | Source: Hackaday

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"There is an age-old tradition among hackers of just making it yourself." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/dont-mind-if-i-ski-do/ | Source: Hackaday

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BGAs ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/working-with-bgas-design-and-layout/ | Source: Hackaday

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"A new EU certificate allows drones over 25 kilograms to fly beyond visual range in civil and military airspace. But there have been crashes." ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/20/german-bundeswehr-heavy-drone-first-time-flies-in-regular-air-traffic/ | Source: Site36

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"Check out this handmade sign posted to the front door of a shuttered Jimmy John’s sandwich chain shop in Missouri last week. See if you can tell from the store owner’s message what happened" ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/06/why-paper-receipts-are-money-at-the-drive-thru/ | Source: Krebs On Security

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"[Rostislav Persion] has for some time been interested in making small, portable EMP devices capable of interfering with nearby electronics." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/scrambling-pocket-calculators-made-easy-with-emp-box-v2/ | Source: Hackaday

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schestowitz

[05:48] <mjg59_> Y'know weirdly the extent to which I work with Microsoft is driven by what other people want to work, not by what Microsoft wants

schestowitz

the net effect is not helpful

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there are many analogies that go here

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with military examples, too

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anyway, thanks for the honest chat

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I don't resent you

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and I think security leadership does need relevant qualification

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I cannot just becomes Physician/GP without going to medical school

schestowitz

saying "I'm a doctor" is not sufficient, one needs to go through all the basics, which can take years, before even getting direct experience with patience

schestowitz

*patients

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Arduino ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/blinking-an-arduino-led-in-julia/ | Source: Hackaday

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blinking An Arduino LED, In Julia | Hackaday

mjg59_

CS degrees don't teach you security

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"Debra Ansell of [GeekMomProjects] fame came up with a neat, 3D design that prints flat and then folds up into everyone’s favorite Platonic solid: a D12" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/20/wonderful-foldable-printable-dodecahedron/ | Source: Hackaday

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schestowitz_TR

security is not a product

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it's a conditionb

mjg59_

Security involves you understanding a bunch of things

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right

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like networking

mjg59_

You need to understand the underlying hardware, you need to understand code, and you need to understand how people interact with all of these

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and if you star without that basis, you can get many things wrong

mjg59_

And CS degrees do very little to teach you the relevant aspects of any of these things

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Antivaxxers... the real ones ☛ https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/06/20/justin-bieber-his-ramsey-hunt-syndrome-is-not-due-to-vaccines/ | Source: Orac

schestowitz_TR

mjg59_: they push bad things now

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not limited to what you specify

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today's CSD syllabus is training

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not teaching

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it was already getting worse when I did it

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like one course that taught some spreadsheetss

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schestowitz_TR

macros..

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and now we have browsers that execute random code from the web

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and are far too bloated

mjg59_

When I teach OS security I focus on the need to understand you can't build a secure environment on an inscure base

mjg59_

But also that you can't demand that users behave perfectly in order to preserve security

schestowitz_TR

like western chips?

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you cannot say that in redbrick unis

mjg59_

Awfully bold of you to assume western chips are more secure than any other chips

schestowitz_TR

mention back doors and you are in "crank" territory

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even when evidence exists

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these institutions reward to relay lies

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and western fake security

mjg59_

At some point the decision isn't "Is this perfectly secure", it's "If this isn't secure, will it be used against me"

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the idea of "just enough"... "almost security"

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do they give courses on NSA spying programs?

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they are NOT interested in real seuciryt

mjg59_

I do cover NSA-related attacks!

schestowitz_TR

the US government actively CURTAILS encryption

mjg59_

I'm a little constrained in that respect because some of my students have security clearances and the US has awkward regulations here

http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/teaching-cybersecurity/

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<mjg59_> I'm a little constrained in that respect because some of my students have security clearances and the US has awkward regulations here

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see?

mjg59_

Yeah I live in a society

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iow, they actively would work to UNDERMINE security

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and that's part of the problem

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like the person whoo says, I didn't know this bomb would be used there... and like this

mjg59_

That's… not what I said?

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or... I was working for my boss... didn't realise it would help Microsoft

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mjg59_> Yeah I live in a society

mjg59_

Anyone with a security clearance who sees something that was classified without having clearance to do so has to report it

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be a bit bold

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try to correct it

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from the inside, too, it is possible

mjg59_

So I can talk about what happened, but can't point them at primary sources

schestowitz_TR

"security" as taught today is not security

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it's marketing of worthless proprietary crap

mjg59_

Because otherwise they'd need to report themselves to the government

mjg59_

And that's kind of a pain

mjg59_

(I'd be fine)

schestowitz_TR

so "defence" industry messes up seucierty education

mjg59_

So I have to point at secondary sources instead

schestowitz_TR

that's what's happening

mjg59_

Eh at this point it doesn't matter much

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BPA ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/decades-of-research-document-the-detrimental-health-effects-of-bpa/ | Source: Counter Punch

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mjg59_

The Snowden stuff is too old to be terribly interesting now

mjg59_

It's really not state of the art

mjg59_

And the Vault 7 CIA stuff is just worthless

schestowitz_TR

<mjg59_> The Snowden stuff is too old to be terribly interesting now

mjg59_

They're about a decade behind the NSA in terms of interesting work

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false

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I complained about thsi repeatedly

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thhhe "too old" line

mjg59_

Look

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same for Microsoft crimes

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they STILL happen to this date

mjg59_

The relevant thing is "The NSA do this sort of thing"

mjg59_

Not the specific details

schestowitz_TR

the difference is, the government got invaded and quit caring

mjg59_

And that can be communicated without referring to the original leaks

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/25/22995144/microsoft-foreign-corrupt-practices-bribery-whistleblower-contracting

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft is tied to hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign bribes, whistleblower alleges - The Verge

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nobody was punished!

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<mjg59_> Not the specific details

schestowitz_TR

some students were teen when it came out

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you need to teach them the full story

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inc. how the NSA took down the Syrian Internet

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and invaded networks of Huawei

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to avoid p[articipating in Western propaganbda

schestowitz_TR

the goal should be to teach

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not indoctrinate

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or omit vital facts

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I learned this on my own almost 20 years ago

mjg59_

I need to teach them that the NSA (along with other high-level actors) are in a position to intercept hardware while it's shipping, to tap fibre in data centres, to exploit vulnerabilities they don't disclose to vendors

schestowitz_TR

by speaking to people

mjg59_

Teaching them about decade old examples doesn't help there

schestowitz_TR

they are not decade old

schestowitz_TR

they STILL go on

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and even worse things are done now

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we just don't have the latestr internal docs

mjg59_

Snowden's leak was almost10 years ago

schestowitz_TR

PRISM never got sccuttled

mjg59_

schestowitz_TR

now they have more aggressive programmes

mjg59_

The point isn't to talk about the specifics of any of those

mjg59_

Because they're old

schestowitz_TR

age does not invalidate facts

schestowitz_TR

they're not old

mjg59_

The point is to talk about the type of attack that you still have to care about

schestowitz_TR

they are CURRENT

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even the binney stuff

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his figures are out of data as it got a LOT worse since

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and you worked for that

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in a contractor

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called Google Inc.

mjg59_

You seem to be strongly arguing against something I'm not saying

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Not Alphabet Agency

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no, the point is,

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be honest to them

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youi know the snowden leaks

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but you play "safe"

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with non-solutions

mjg59_

Being honest includes "Actors like the NSA do this kind of thing"

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too much of the time

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and iirc, you were gullible enough to put those 'smart" things in your home

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what message does that send?

mjg59_

Pointing at documents where, legally, they'd have to immediately leave the class is not helpful

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they should be legal to show

mjg59_

They should!

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maybe not in that university

mjg59_

And, in fact, they are!

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nationalism is not education

mjg59_

But a condition of having a security clearance is informing your superiors if you see something you don't have clearance to see

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Thwe british did the same to the irish for that matter

mjg59_

It's fucked up, but here we are

mjg59_

Yeah kind of familiar with that one

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don't want to say nationalism to someone to whom it is not applicable

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mjg59_: SO HELP US CORRECT IT

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sorry

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all caps bby accident

mjg59_

mjg59_

I have two options

mjg59_

1) Show primary Snowden docs. A bunch of my students have to leave, and learn nothing

mjg59_

2) Discuss the classes of attack, giving examples of how these could theoretically apply to current tech rather than stuff from 10 years ago. No students have to leave, they all learn something

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WTO killing millions with patents ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/the-global-south-in-the-wto-time-to-go-on-the-offensive/ | Source: Counter Punch

schestowitz_TR

you do not evcen need to show the raw document

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just be honest

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but I realise this puts jobs at risk

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I confront people at work about it all the time

mjg59_

Yeah uh that's exactly what I was saying?

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the facts are on my side

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the issue is, they are not properly informed

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so some of that is new to themn

mjg59_

I can discuss it and link to secondary sources

mjg59_

I can't show the primary sources

schestowitz_TR

we need to raise informed ciitzens

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but the regime does NOT want that

mjg59_

Which is exactly what you just suggested

schestowitz_TR

but it's risky

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it always was

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that's what mnakes an activist

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Equality ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/can-we-ever-retire-to-greater-equality/ | Source: Counter Punch

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SCOTUS: political hacks' tribunal ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-dangerous/ | Source: The Nation

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | The Problem of the Supreme Court | The Nation

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Mélenchon ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/20/neoliberal-macron-loses-parliamentary-majority-melenchon-led-left-surges-france | Source: Common Dreams

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Neoliberal Macron Loses Parliamentary Majority as Mélenchon-Led Left Surges in France

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Maryland ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/workers-in-maryland-vote-to-form-first-apple-store-union-in-us/ | Source: TruthOut

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Workers in Maryland Vote to Form First Apple Store Union in US

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Radical? In whose eyes? ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/only-radical-changes-will-make-rents-affordable/ | Source: Counter Punch

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Facebook ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/facebook-enables-anti-abortion-clinics-to-collect-data-on-would-be-patients/ | Source: TruthOut

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"For nearly two centuries, literature from Marx and Dickens to Thomas Picketty and Barbara Ehrenreich has dissected and denounced the machinations of the greedy rich." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/20/why-do-tens-millions-us-support-economic-system-doesnt-benefit-them | Source: Common Dreams

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Why Do Tens of Millions in US Support an Economic System That Doesn't Benefit Them? | Mike Lofgren

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Assange a political prisoner, says Snowden. But to be in the UK government one must be a sociopath and liar like pretty dishonest Patel. ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/20/predictable-monstrosities-priti-patel-approves-assanges-extradition/ | Source: Counter Punch

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Transparency: "Vladimir Putin is undoubtedly a very rich man" ☛ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/20/the-llc-invest-connection | Source: Meduza

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"While the goings-on of the art world might appear to be a secondary concern amid the various crises of capitalism we face" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/how-bleak-is-the-future-of-the-art-world/ | Source: The Nation

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | How Bleak Is the Future of the Art World? | The Nation

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MAGA = "Now he's threatening to kill his political opponents." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/20/sick-and-dangerous-ad-shotgun-wielding-maga-senate-candidate-condemned | Source: Common Dreams

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Sick and Dangerous' Ad by Shotgun-Wielding MAGA Senate Candidate Condemned

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COVID-19 exploited ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/many-nations-have-used-covid-to-impose-the-tyranny-of-transnational-capital/ | Source: TruthOut

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Many Nations Have Used COVID to Impose the Tyranny of Transnational Capital

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matey

schestowitz_TR │ age does not invalidate facts

matey

thats true

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Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux Machines

matey

we seriously need to do something about sputnik, before we lose the fucking space race

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Devices/Embedded • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166278

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Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux and Destination Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166279

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matey

ive got george washington on the line

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EdUBudgie Linux: Ubuntu Spin with Budgie Desktop for Students, Teachers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166281

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matey

if sputnik comes around again, i think we can have enough cannons at the ready

Jun 21 08:39

schestowitz_TR

:-D

schestowitz_TR

you can see it with a Canon

matey

galileo has a device we can use to track its path

schestowitz_TR

"a 5g"

matey

i was going to say a telescope, but a few grand wont hurt either

Jun 21 08:41

matey

fortunately all these facts are still of the highest relevance to the present situation

Jun 21 08:41

matey

if we always do what weve always done, we will remain victorias

Jun 21 08:42

matey

at least every victoria will

Jun 21 08:42

matey

and maybe julie andrews

Jun 21 08:42

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matey

i also think teaching class of attack is more important than showing actual documents

Jun 21 08:47

matey

the documents have been around for ages

Jun 21 08:47

matey

well-established journalists have literally written books about them

Jun 21 08:48

matey

teaching class of attack has both political and practical value

Jun 21 08:48

matey

showing the documents isnt going to teach most people what to do about them, so less practical

Jun 21 08:48

matey

fortunately its not an either/or question in the first place

Jun 21 08:49

matey

some people can show the documents, some people can teach the class of attack

Jun 21 08:49

matey

and others can insinuate that both jobs must fall to everyone, or the people teaching actual practical lessons around it arent doing their job

Jun 21 08:50

matey

even while failing to do the other half themselves

Jun 21 08:50

matey

i believe mjg and dr farnell both teach about this in the uk

Jun 21 08:53

matey

im going to hazard a guess that dr farnells approach is actually closer to mjgs approach (with differences of course, as is to be expected between two different people) than it is to what roy proposes

Jun 21 08:54

matey

OTOH, perhaps dr farnell already does what roy proposes, thus demonstrating that mjgs objections are unfounded or inaccurate

Jun 21 08:54

matey

but i bet he doesnt

Jun 21 08:54

matey

id be happy to critique mjgs teaching if i could find a problem with it-- i bet i wouldnt agree with what he teaches about secure boot and all that stuff

Jun 21 08:56

matey

id probably side with farnell or our other resident hardware guru on that matter

Jun 21 08:56

matey

my guess (this is only a guess) is that farnell would call it snake oil

matey

but maybe he would say its not entirely a bad idea

matey

funnily enough, i dont know anyone that thinks its an ENTIRELY bad idea

matey

only that the control over it goes against its usefulness or any desire someone like myself might have to

matey

i dont even want to buy something that gives microsoft an unfair edge, id personally rather boycott it

Jun 21 08:58

matey

but if it wasnt done in a way that clearly gives them an advantage (in practice)

Jun 21 08:58

matey

even i dont think the idea itself is useless

Jun 21 08:58

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Jun 21 08:59

matey

as long as microsoft controls it (even as much as they do, which isnt completely nor does it need to be) i think its snake oil

Jun 21 08:59

matey

if i were doing devils advocate i might argue that if on average it does more good than harm... though thats not my position or my opinion, which is that its snake oil

Jun 21 09:00

matey

at least in practice

Jun 21 09:00

matey

i think roy may have missed the fact that someone who may have access implied that there are newer things we dont know about

Jun 21 09:04

matey

which is probably true by default

Jun 21 09:04

matey

and it would be great (imo) if someone leaked those too, since so much of this stuff is being used in ways that are unconstitutional and illegal

matey

but whistleblowers dont come along every day

matey

the funny thing is, if such a whistleblower did come along

matey

class of attack lessons would still be useful and practical

matey

and then the snowden stuff really would be obsolete(ish)

Jun 21 09:06

matey

useful as part of a broader historical picture

Jun 21 09:06

matey

but being up to date on what the government is doing to its citizens really would be more interesting (most likely) than what they were doing a decade ago

Jun 21 09:06

matey

both are useful

matey

depending on the context

matey

that doesnt render the word "obsolete" into nonsense

matey

if you send the monitor and the merrimack up against a navy destroyer

matey

i can tell you which one is obsolete

Jun 21 09:08

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matey

if the person commanding the navy destroyer manages to lose in that battle, thats incredible

matey

in the future there will be many battles where people with lower-grade weapons are up against higher tech

matey

they might win

Jun 21 09:10

matey

sometimes

Jun 21 09:10

matey

but even then, they would probably rather have proper guns than muskets, even if they would use muskets if its all they had

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matey

outside of marketing, "obsolete" actually means something

schestowitz_TR

'I am a soldier, I fight where I am told, and I win where I fight.

schestowitz_TR

George Patton

matey

okay

matey

you send george patton in, and good luck to him

matey

i saw norman schwarzkopf once

matey

on the national mall

schestowitz_TR

"In my role as Wikileaks editor, I've been involved in fighting off many legal attacks. To do that, and keep our sources safe, we have had to spread assets, encrypt everything, and move telecommunications and people around the world to activate protective laws in different national jurisdictions."

schestowitz_TR

Julian Assange

matey

my guess is he wouldnt win much these days

schestowitz_TR

of course they stole his laptops and other devices while he was unprepared

schestowitz_TR

he had handcuffs in there

schestowitz_TR

didn't get a chance to use these

schestowitz_TR

he had been set up by the embassy staff

matey

if it were up to me, what has happened to assange would not happen to anyone ever

https://quotepark.com/quotes/1930455-richard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway-and-somet/

schestowitz_TR

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matey

the thing between mjg and assange is personal

matey

you wont understand it with quotes that dont address that

schestowitz_TR

mentioned EFF

schestowitz_TR

when it was more functional

schestowitz_TR

"Context: I am a pessimist by nature. Many people can only keep on fighting when they expect to win. I'm not like that, I always expect to lose. I fight anyway, and sometimes I win. I'm not the main leader in this particular battle. The Electronic Frontier Foundation is fighting. Public Knowledge is fighting. People need to get involved politically. At this point people should go to the EFF website and the Public Knowledge website,

schestowitz_TR

and continue doing so over the coming weeks to see how they can get involved in this coming campaign. It's going to take a lot of people spending probably at least twenty minutes. If you care enough about your freedom to spend twenty minutes on it, if you can tear yourself away from whatever little job it is you're doing this week, and next week, and so on. Spend a little time fighting for your freedom, and we can win.

Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1930455-richard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway-and-somet/"

schestowitz_TR

matey

richard-stallman-i-always-expect-to-lose-i-fight-anyway <- this is one of my favourite stallman quotes

Jun 21 09:15

matey

stallman was set up by the eff

Jun 21 09:15

schestowitz_TR

matey

balls

schestowitz_TR

eff did not set him up

schestowitz_TR

eff was set up

schestowitz_TR

by some people who changed it from within

schestowitz_TR

to become a permissive and lenient arm

schestowitz_TR

rather than what it originallly was

schestowitz_TR

EFF did not attack RMS before Barlow died

matey

by some people who changed it from within <- so

matey

that doesnt negate what i said

schestowitz_TR

depends on on what "EFF" means

schestowitz_TR

the founders are not there

matey

i agree with that

schestowitz_TR

it's like Mozilla now

schestowitz_TR

or LF

schestowitz_TR

LF is a bit different

matey

but that was my point

schestowitz_TR

in LF it's the corporations

matey

yours seems to be that the eff changed and therefore was not the eff

matey

therefore the eff didnt setup stallman

schestowitz_TR

In Mozilla and EFF politician factions

schestowitz_TR

beholden to the corporations

schestowitz_TR

yes

schestowitz_TR

eff

matey

in a way i agree with that too, but it hardly negates what i said in the first place

schestowitz_TR

is a namme

schestowitz_TR

like SPLC

schestowitz_TR

that name can be misleading

schestowitz_TR

before there were "Events"

matey

yes, eff has "freedom" in the name

schestowitz_TR

FSF also hasd quite a few disloyal insiders

schestowitz_TR

they were not disloyal to RMS

matey

it should be called the treacherous bullshit foundation instead

schestowitz_TR

but to the mission

matey

they were not disloyal to RMS <- but to the mission <- well this is different

schestowitz_TR

RMS just 'happens' to adhere to the mission

schestowitz_TR

afetr all, he founded the darn thing!

matey

he certainly did

http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/

schestowitz_TR

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matey

incidentally its not impossible for a founder to betray the mission. i dont think thats the right word to describe what stallman did

"http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/"

schestowitz_TR

schestowitz_TR

"or cords tied around part of you. So, how are we going to get all the way there? We’re going to have to make continuing efforts. And why would people do that? Only if they value freedom. If you want to reach a goal that requires a long journey the crucial point is to remember the goal. If you forget the goal, you won’t get there.

schestowitz_TR

matey

i think he abandoned the mission, he didnt betray it

matey

i also think he was PUSHED

schestowitz_TR

now the goal is not what it was

schestowitz_TR

even RMS made some concessions

schestowitz_TR

on a number of key things

matey

everyone makes concessions, its a matter of the nature and justification

schestowitz_TR

to the point where some other groups seem more pro-SF than the FSF

matey

past a point there is no justification

matey

but there are always SOME concesssions

matey

there are no perfect people or perfect orgs

matey

this was true even when the fsf did its job

matey

it doesnt anymore

matey

to the point where some other groups seem more pro-SF than the FSF <- far too few imo

*schestowitz_TR checks current fsf patron

schestowitz_TR

actually

matey

i think this goes beyond funding

schestowitz_TR

let me check dictionary

schestowitz_TR

OK wait

Jun 21 09:23

matey

i am waiting

Jun 21 09:23

schestowitz_TR

so patron CAN be a slave owner

Jun 21 09:23

matey

haha

schestowitz_TR

191\3 Webster

matey

maybe "patron" is the real thing ibm left over

schestowitz_TR

FSF: we have a slaveowners page

schestowitz_TR

we are slaves to them

matey

look up "custom"

matey

its part of ICE

schestowitz_TR

but it would be provocative to state this

matey

but it would be provocative to state this <- im sure that doesnt bother you

Jun 21 09:25

matey

<schestowitz_TR> even RMS made some concessions <- he had the right idea about this too https://www.fsf.org/news/compromise

Jun 21 09:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | "Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard Stallman — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

Jun 21 09:29

techrights-ipfs-bot

matey

"Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard Stallman

matey

unfortunately, the fsf made a number of ruinous compromises

matey

the point of the article is very clear: not all compromises are ruinous, and the ruinous ones are the most important to avoid

matey

but they failed to do that

matey

so the article, while absolutely valid, is sort of moot now

matey

at least for them

Jun 21 09:31

matey

the fsf is ruined

Jun 21 09:31

matey

it is in ruins

Jun 21 09:31

matey

it has lost credibility, momentum, direction

matey

what amount of funding could give that back?

matey

what amount of marketing?

matey

and most importantly

matey

what amount of SWAG!

http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/patrons-not-criticised/

matey

"weve covered mt fuji with fsf water bottles to bring the world this important message:"

Jun 21 09:33

matey

"software freedom is important to users! so please sign up at microsoft github, thank you"

Jun 21 09:33

matey

as someone who was not only an fsf member

Jun 21 09:35

matey

but who purchased and wore a fair bit of "swag"

Jun 21 09:35

matey

i have some "creative" ideas on what they can do with those water bottles

Jun 21 09:35

schestowitz_TR

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schestowitz_TR

matey: I want your comment on this ^^

schestowitz_TR

it's s ddraft

matey

no promises

matey

ill read it

schestowitz_TR

I was busy picking the bits for it

schestowitz_TR

hence was inactive in irc

schestowitz_TR

at least social control media is no longer a "thing"

matey

ok heres my comment

matey

"the fsf has fallen for this, hook, line and sinker"

matey

(you dont have to use it)

schestowitz_TR

I can do

schestowitz_TR

what name to use?

matey

whatever pleases you. i cant actually stop you from quoting me.

schestowitz_TR

okk, anon'ed

Jun 21 09:40

schestowitz_TR

done

Jun 21 09:40

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Jun 21 09:41

schestowitz_TR

XRevan86: can you confirm Rusian media says Windows is banned for download?

Jun 21 09:42

schestowitz_TR

from Russian IPs?

Jun 21 09:42

schestowitz_TR

all the "latest" versions

Jun 21 09:42

matey

isnt that legally required anyway?

schestowitz_TR

I saw British sites relying on Russian language sources

matey

i mean arent there sanctions?

schestowitz_TR

this iis very significant if as true as reported in English

schestowitz_TR

matey: not until now

matey

then why was the fsf complying like a month ago?

schestowitz_TR

I've long wonderred when the Pentagon will figure out Windows back doors in Russia aren't worth it

schestowitz_TR

aand they would seek to disrupt Russia by cutting off the Windows "supply"

matey

especially when the nsa can do better backdoors in non-windows stuff than windows can

schestowitz_TR

fsf shuld move to canada is something

schestowitz_TR

don't think canada is that extreme

schestowitz_TR

re "export" of enxryption"

*schestowitz_TR checks distancefrom boston to toronto

matey

the problem with the fsf moving to canada, while i love the idea

matey

is they would become a different entity

matey

under different rules

matey

with the fsf name/brand

schestowitz_TR

Manchester is very near to Montreal

schestowitz_TR

even Ottawa isn't far

matey

i really think the physical distance is the least of the matter

matey

rhetorically its hilarious, but practically speaking id say its a non-starter

schestowitz_TR

like 200 miles a way

schestowitz_TR

a few hours on the road, depending if it's a "highway" (motorway)

matey

if they had done so 35 years ago, in hindsight, its not such a bad idea

schestowitz_TR

1.5 hours on autobahn

schestowitz_TR

openbsd iss based there

matey

if they move george washington to canada, hes still very dead

schestowitz_TR

why not fsf?

matey

openbsd iss based there <- thats one of the things that would make it hilarious

matey

i dont think the de raadt deserves to be bothered that way

matey

but that old rivalry is just ridiculous enough that id be mildly amused

matey

also he can take care of himself

matey

which is more than i can say for the fsf

matey

there are actual benefits for the fsf being based in canada

matey

this is definitely a "too little, too late" idea, but in fairness, what wouldnt be

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/46.2435/-73.1744

schestowitz_TR

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matey

yes its a wonder how close the northern usa is to southern canada

schestowitz_TR

one strong statement for freedom would be fsf saying goodbe to trumpland

schestowitz_TR

voting with the feet

matey

when you consider they share the usa/canadian border

matey

now heres a question

Jun 21 09:50

matey

with all my scathing critiques of them

Jun 21 09:50

matey

do i really think everyone at the fsf deserves to be put through all the fun of crossing that border?

Jun 21 09:50

matey

my guess is they would not be harassed too much as a group, so sure

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matey

also i think its worse on the way back

Jun 21 09:52

matey

if they stay in canada its moot

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matey

bonus: they get into an even more heated dispute with fsf europe, for having the same initials

matey

"fsf, eh?"

matey

they would probably fsfc, or just (being the original, SORT OF) fsf

Jun 21 09:54

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Jun 21 09:54

matey

/me tries to think if stallman would be happier in mexico

schestowitz_TR

fsfe does not seem very active lately

schestowitz_TR

they perish ands struggle

schestowitz_TR

they lost a lot of respect among those whom trhey needed

matey

he might be taken hostage by cartels, but he should be used to that by now

schestowitz_TR

and now they try to remove my twitter account

http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/

schestowitz_TR

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schestowitz_TR

support fsfe

schestowitz_TR

give them money

schestowitz_TR

so they can get busy

matey

they lost a lot of respect <- what an absolute and terrible shame

schestowitz_TR

trying to derail crtics

matey

i understand hitler killed himself

matey

i say its never the ones who should, but the fact is

matey

its ALMOST never the ones that should

matey

occasionally we get lucky

schestowitz_TR

matey: maybe sometimes told him "you're part jew"

matey

and then its never soon enough :/

schestowitz_TR

*someone

matey

yeah i keep hearing that one

matey

but ive never found anything conclusive about it

matey

ive heard it many times

schestowitz_TR

no, something about a grandpa

schestowitz_TR

anyway, it's not an ethnicity

matey

indeed

schestowitz_TR

so you can find routes connecting anyone to anything

matey

but even if its not, its a pretty staggering hypocrisy

https://www.statnews.com/2017/08/16/white-nationalists-genetic-ancestry-test/

schestowitz_TR

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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/white-supremacists-respond-genetics-say-theyre-not-white

schestowitz_TR

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matey

rofl

Jun 21 09:59

matey

oh 21st century, you really are the craziest one yet

Jun 21 09:59

matey

it even started off nuts

matey

and hasnt backed down

matey

eggshell supremacists

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schestowitz_TR

they are not white

Jun 21 10:01

matey

theyre genetically offwhite

Jun 21 10:01

matey

but its funny because i mean

Jun 21 10:01

schestowitz_TR

unltil they lack some chromosomes

matey

its a mutation

schestowitz_TR

the "real" whites are albinos

matey

albino supremacists are easy to hold back though

matey

just put up office lighting and theyre fucked

schestowitz_TR

they don't SEE it that way

matey

the only albino i ever knew was indian

schestowitz_TR

(sorry, it's 2022, I cannot make such jokes)

matey

he looked white, really was asian

schestowitz_TR

even is albinos themselves find such jokes funny

matey

i always thought he bore an uncanny resemblance to john mccain

matey

no, seriously, he did

schestowitz_TR

thought exercise

schestowitz_TR

look at symbolic references to racism and slavery

schestowitz_TR

then connect those to LF logos

schestowitz_TR

I'm sure there are many

schestowitz_TR

all sorts of racist smbols

schestowitz_TR

colours

schestowitz_TR

that would really pain LF

schestowitz_TR

having to explin itself

matey

i mean the windows logo swastika, no ones going to top that

schestowitz_TR

like it's asking the community to explain itself

schestowitz_TR

for using terms like "blacklist"

matey

i think its silly, but if the shoe fits

matey

ibm and microsoft make more sense when you think of them as the same company

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolism

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nazi symbolism - Wikipedia

schestowitz_TR

scroll down

matey

is there a window?

schestowitz_TR

odal for instance

schestowitz_TR

yes

schestowitz_TR

Windows 11

11: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Schutzstaffel_SS.svg/110px-Schutzstaffel_SS.svg.png

schestowitz_TR

schestowitz_TR

that in itself can be truned into a meme

schestowitz_TR

Windows SS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_(band)

matey

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kiss (band) - Wikipedia

schestowitz_TR

they're still going

matey

deliberate, gene simmons is from israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#/media/File:Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svg

schestowitz_TR

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matey

he thought he would appropriate it

matey

there are a lot of things i dislike about him, but that isnt one of them, id say its fair play

Jun 21 10:08

matey

ace is ok imo

Jun 21 10:08

matey

Simmons was born as Chaim Witz

Jun 21 10:09

matey

he got that name from his father

matey

so technically... hes only HALF witz

matey

(im sure hes heard that one before)

matey

actually you probably have too

matey

but hey now you have something in common with gene simmons you probably didnt know

https://training.linuxfoundation.org/master-training-and-certification-agreement/

matey

both your names end in the same 4 letters

Jun 21 10:11

matey

but his also starts that way

Jun 21 10:12

matey

thank moses and shiva i didnt make fun of his mothers name, she survived the camps

Jun 21 10:19

matey

this is fun

Jun 21 10:22

matey

The Beatles had a significant influence on Simmons. "There is no way I'd be doing what I do now if it wasn't for the Beatles. I was watching The Ed Sullivan Show and I saw them. Those skinny little boys, kind of androgynous, with long hair like girls. It blew me away that these four boys [from] the middle of nowhere could make that music.

Jun 21 10:22

matey

didnt know he was that much of a beatles fan

Jun 21 10:22

matey

:) he and paul stanley started another rock band first, but didnt like it so they tried to fire the band members

Jun 21 10:24

matey

that didnt work, so they quit the band instead

Jun 21 10:24

matey

all in all a reasonably good move for rock music

Jun 21 10:24

matey

as it led to kiss, which is hardly the worst band ever

Jun 21 10:25

matey

oh yes, now we get to why i dont think too much of him

Jun 21 10:28

matey

politically, hes a fucking idiot

Jun 21 10:28

matey

He supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq, writing on his website: "I'm ashamed to be surrounded by people calling themselves liberal who are, in my opinion, spitting on the graves of brave American soldiers who gave their life to fight a war that wasn't theirs... in a country they've never been to... simply to liberate the people therein"

Jun 21 10:29

matey

idiot.

Jun 21 10:29

matey

good bass player though

Jun 21 10:29

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Jun 21 10:31

matey

"Just as corporations have been involved with regulatory capture for years, effectively removing the teeth from regulators so that large businesses can do as they please, they are gobbling up young, intelligent, motivated people, and saddling them with a ton of corporate busy work"

Jun 21 10:31

matey

and corporate "ethics"

Jun 21 10:31

matey

which is like military intelligence

Jun 21 10:32

*schestowitz_TR back from the sun

Jun 21 10:43

schestowitz_TR

I have an idea for LF

Jun 21 10:43

schestowitz_TR

Jun 21 10:44

schestowitz_TR

lol

Jun 21 10:44

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Jun 21 10:44

schestowitz_TR

it's easier than I imaginedd

Jun 21 10:45

schestowitz_TR

https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/

Jun 21 10:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux Foundation

Jun 21 10:47

schestowitz_TR

ouuuuch!

Jun 21 10:47

schestowitz_TR

ity says "blacked out"

Jun 21 10:48

schestowitz_TR

racists!

Jun 21 10:48

schestowitz_TR

https://docs.linuxfoundation.org/lfx/insights/identities-and-affiliations/blacklist-an-email-address

Jun 21 10:49

schestowitz_TR

shoosh!!

Jun 21 10:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.linuxfoundation.org | Blacklist an Email Address - Linux Foundation Documentation

Jun 21 10:49

matey

" Whenever prudery takes itself seriously, it threatens repression."

Jun 21 10:50

matey

^ rms

Jun 21 10:50

matey

A foreigner working in Dubai accused a used car seller of "ripping off" its customers, and was jailed for "insulting"

Jun 21 10:53

matey

at least one place really does it

matey

im sure its a very nice place

matey

you just walk around with a gun to your head all the time

matey

and everyone is ince

matey

nice

matey

A Danish woman accepted a complimentary glass of wine on an Emirates flight to Dubai. On account of this, she has been jailed there for a year awaiting trial.

Jun 21 10:55

matey

holy shit make up your mind

Jun 21 10:55

matey

here would you like a glass of wine? YOURE UNDER ARREST!

Jun 21 10:56

matey

good thing she didnt order the chicken, they might have cut her head off

Jun 21 10:56

matey

i know at least one vegetarian figures thats fair play :)

Jun 21 10:57

schestowitz_TR

i will add in ibm logo

Jun 21 10:57

techrights-ipfs-bot

schestowitz_TR

what other companies with nazi tries are in LF?

schestowitz_TR

not ford

schestowitz_TR

not GM

schestowitz_TR

coke

schestowitz_TR

"fanta"

matey

"blood of jews"

IBM http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1920px-Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svg_.png

matey

if youre not a fluffy fan you wont know wtf

Jun 21 11:00

matey

"Our members are our superpower"

Jun 21 11:03

matey

pretty sure they mean bullshit

Jun 21 11:03

matey

they escaped from the destruction of their own planet, which exploded after the amount of bullshit reached critical mass

Jun 21 11:04

matey

and the light from our sun makes them super, super, super full of shit, more full of shit than a freight train carrying manure for monsanto

Jun 21 11:05

schestowitz_TR

Jun 21 11:07

matey

"Join forces with the community to create a force-multiplier"

Jun 21 11:07

matey

that multiplies forces with a joiner!

watson http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1920px-Linux_Foundation_logo_2013.svg_.png

schestowitz_TR

schestowitz_TR

wrong url

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/ibm-ww2.png

schestowitz_TR

matey

"Forms on this site are protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. "

matey

a comma would make that a lot more reasonable

matey

"lets eat dinner and grandpa can watch his game"

Jun 21 11:09

schestowitz_TR

where does it say that

schestowitz_TR

matey

if you click on members

matey

it says "Forms on this site are protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/linux-foundation-words-hypocrisy/

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Words You Cannot Say Unless You Are the Linux Foundation | Techrights

schestowitz_TR

have a look, mmaybe too stgrng

schestowitz_TR

but the nazi bit I lay on IBM

schestowitz_TR

more than LF

schestowitz_TR

that's not just factual but also widespread knowledge

Jun 21 11:16

matey

this is funny but

Jun 21 11:16

matey

to me it really feels like going in circles

schestowitz_TR

there are some circles there too

schestowitz_TR

or "flying saucers"

matey

lol

matey

each year that ive done this

matey

ive gone back and reviewed things, in light of whats new

matey

originally i was trying to help the fsf better itself, un-miss missed opportunities

matey

waste of time

matey

then i was trying to save it from itself

matey

waste of time

schestowitz_TR

"In 2011, Microsoft became a top contributor to the Linux kernel for the first time. Times have clearly changed. "

https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux Foundation

schestowitz_TR

it no longer names author

schestowitz_TR

but I could check wayback machine

matey

In 2011, Microsoft became a top contributor to the Linux kernel for the first time.

matey

THAT is interesting

schestowitz_TR

it's probably jimbo linzem

matey

being the SECOND thing ive learned about 2011

matey

which i refer to as stallmans half-resignation from the gnu project

schestowitz_TR

sheela was aowkring for Microsofters around that time

matey

but imo it looks like a coincidence (it might not be. it looks like it is)

matey

i hope to understand your obsession with the lf someday

matey

theyre not irrelevant

matey

i dont mean why you focus on them sometimes

matey

i mean why you seem so hyperfocused on them (more than anything else)

schestowitz_TR

jim WOKE up in bed

schestowitz_TR

with Microsoft

matey

yeah

matey

many have

schestowitz_TR

maybe you don't see how far LF goes

schestowitz_TR

it monopolised events

matey

no, i dont

schestowitz_TR

almost

matey

thats why i said

schestowitz_TR

and workeed to crush "competing" events

schestowitz_TR

I was told stories

matey

someday i hope to understand that

schestowitz_TR

they want to monopolise the message

matey

i mean

schestowitz_TR

and we know who controls LF

schestowitz_TR

see the board

matey

this is really what linux has ALWAYS done

matey

it monopolised gnu

schestowitz_TR

so we must caution people

matey

it gave gnu to monopolies

schestowitz_TR

yes, gnu also

schestowitz_TR

gnu is PART of Linux

matey

heh

schestowitz_TR

but gnu started after 1991

schestowitz_TR

because "Linux" started 30 years ago

matey

i mean thats a narrative worth correcting

schestowitz_TR

gnu aka "dem linux commmmmands"

matey

just to get history right

schestowitz_TR

"mom, where's the code of lf in linux?"

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"I searched all of linux, can't find it ;(""

matey

/me goes to look up when lf became lf again

matey

not 2000 obviously

schestowitz_TR

I meat ls

schestowitz_TR

*meant ls

schestowitz_TR

not lf

schestowitz_TR

although, lf too puts no code in it

schestowitz_TR

greeg k-h just backports patches

schestowitz_TR

linus hiomself says he writes no code

schestowitz_TR

at most he does some mock or pseudo code over email

matey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation Formation 2000; 22 years ago (2000) <- pfffffffffft

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Linux Foundation - Wikipedia

schestowitz_TR

to explain to coders with examples

schestowitz_TR

but linus does not patch any code of his own anymore

schestowitz_TR

LF =2007

schestowitz_TR

faking their age

schestowitz_TR

like Manchester University using some phony UMIST date to fake its age

schestowitz_TR

and then putting that year in the logo

schestowitz_TR

LF is mostly OSDL people

schestowitz_TR

not the failing zemlin thing

schestowitz_TR

all they got from that is some specs and a mac fanboi

matey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Development_Labs On January 22, 2007, OSDL and the Free Standards Group merged to form the Linux Foundation

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Open Source Development Labs - Wikipedia

schestowitz_TR

who is unfit to boss torvalds

matey

so 2007 they started doing this

schestowitz_TR

yeah

matey

and before 2007, osi was doing it

schestowitz_TR

it's the osl thing

schestowitz_TR

iirc, osdl is 2004

schestowitz_TR

cohen got too cllose to microsoft

matey

the merger was when lf was actually created

schestowitz_TR

he did several other bad thing

matey

and the merger was 2007

matey

before 2007 lf didnt exist

schestowitz_TR

and then he vanished for good

schestowitz_TR

hgard to find anything about him online after CSI/CIS failed

schestowitz_TR

LF is a lying operatiomn

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-weighs-a-gas-tax-holiday-how-much-would-consumers-really-save/ar-AAYFVWk?li=BBnb7Kz

DaemonFC

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DaemonFC

LOL

schestowitz_TR

wikipedia is a good place to lie

schestowitz_TR

if you have PR people

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matey

but i mean

matey

lf came in like american in wwii

schestowitz_TR

mohammad bin salman for prees 2024

DaemonFC

What I would do if I wanted to get gas prices down would be to tell the oil companies that they'd get prices down on their own, or I'd have the EPA increase their ethanol blending requirements so steeply that they couldn't do it and had to pay fines, and then use the money to send out gas cards or something.

schestowitz_TR

of course he never ran

schestowitz_TR

didn't get voted

matey

when osi had been doing this monopolisation shit for nearly a decade already

schestowitz_TR

they don'\t hold elections

schestowitz_TR

"i give you cheap oil... made of journalists"

matey

theres a pill for that

DaemonFC

I don't know why people who complain about gas prices don't just tune up their car.

DaemonFC

If they've been driving it a while, there's an extra mile or two per gallon to be had in there.

DaemonFC

Instead, they buy lotto scratchers and booze.

https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/to-master-tech-you-must-master-software-and-open-source-even-if-youre-apple/

schestowitz_TR

schestowitz_TR

"The one thing I left out is that there were plenty of suits in the room too, trying to meet, influence and hire the open source geeks that will lead the next wave of computing."

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | To Master Tech You Must Master Software - And Open Source - Even If You're Apple - Linux Foundation

schestowitz_TR

Siuits

Suit: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/zemlin-tuxedo.jpg

schestowitz_TR

Planety of suits

Jun 21 11:30

schestowitz_TR

Jun 21 11:30

techrights-news

RapidDisk 8.2.0 now available • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166283

Jun 21 11:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RapidDisk 8.2.0 now available | Tux Machines

Jun 21 11:31

matey

to master linux you must run macos

Jun 21 11:31

matey

i wouldnt head the linux foundation if i was just going to use openbsd all the time

techrights-news

DNS Toys: Daily use Tools and Utilities over the DNS Protocol • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166284

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DNS Toys: Daily use Tools and Utilities over the DNS Protocol | Tux Machines

matey

it would be ridiculous

techrights-news

Mysterious GeckoLinux Creator Reveals a New Debian Remix Distro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166285

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mysterious GeckoLinux Creator Reveals a New Debian Remix Distro | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Sipeed Lichee RV Dock Pro RISC-V SBC adds MIPI/RGB LCD connector, dual MIC, and BL702 JTAG+UART debugger • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166286

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sipeed Lichee RV Dock Pro RISC-V SBC adds MIPI/RGB LCD connector, dual MIC, and BL702 JTAG+UART debugger | Tux Machines

schestowitz_TR

matey: to boss torvalds you need to be unqualified

schestowitz_TR

it makes you vulnerable

schestowitz_TR

so your corporate masters can sack ytoou any time

schestowitz_TR

citing lack of competence

matey

i think theres a simpler explanation

schestowitz_TR

it's easier to control the conciously unqualified

matey

the whole thing is just a farce

matey

its just marketing and nonsense

matey

laughably so

techrights-news

IBM‘s (and others’) front group, the Linux Foundation, does not adhere to its very own supposed ‘principles’, which it keeps lecturing us about http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/linux-foundation-words-hypocrisy/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Words You Cannot Say Unless You Are the Linux Foundation | Techrights

schestowitz_TR

matey: it is NOT even GOOD marketing

schestowitz_TR

it's as if the objective is to reduce geeks' allure

matey

"i liked the shavers so much... i grew a beard like those guitar players from texas"

matey

amish linux users group

Jun 21 11:36

matey

"we dont use linux, but we recommend you do!"

Jun 21 11:37

matey

linux farms (a bayer subsidiary)

Jun 21 11:39

matey

what is linux?

Jun 21 11:40

matey

at linux farms, we grow linux from seeds to your table

Jun 21 11:40

matey

linux is used in cooking and baking, as its oil produces a smooth texture and delicious flavour

techrights-news

Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166287

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

schestowitz_TR

go to http://linux.com/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux.com - News For Open Source Professionals

schestowitz_TR

scroll down a bit

schestowitz_TR

tell me,

schestowitz_TR

is this site about Linux?

schestowitz_TR

if now, what is this/"thing"?

schestowitz_TR

*if not

matey

its about github

matey

starting at the bottom of the list

matey

Test API interactions with Mockoon

matey

June 2, 2022

matey

mockoon: github

matey

next one: interpreting system log files, and more sysadmin tips (systemd, github)

matey

5 Vim features for power users

matey

vim: github

matey

How to install JupyterLab on Linux <- github

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matey

How we use eBPF <- github

matey

maybe this one isnt github: How to interrupt the Linux boot process

matey

though thats probably systemd again

Jun 21 11:46

matey

its really just a link to the redhat website

Jun 21 11:46

matey

"the boot process stops in an emergency maintenance mode."

Jun 21 11:47

matey

so its about grub and systemd (the latter of which is github)

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matey

How to configure Network File System on Linux

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matey

another red hat article

matey

really linux.com is just an aggregator for sponsors (from the looks of it)

schestowitz_TR

yes!

schestowitz_TR

waitr

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/linux-com.png

schestowitz_TR

matey

If you've got more than one or two workstations, it's inefficient to set up your client machines to recognize NFS volumes by hand. Instead, use Ansible to automate <- github

Jun 21 11:50

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Jun 21 11:53

matey

yep, aggregator

Jun 21 11:53

matey

so basically its just an engine for diluting the linux trademark

matey

everything is linux

matey

if i sell tractors to the amish and i give them money

matey

ill get on the front page and say its linux

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/camel-linux.png

schestowitz_TR

matey

everythingislinux.com

Jun 21 11:55

matey

hey hey, if i sell ovens to germany, and give money to

Jun 21 11:55

matey

too soon?

Jun 21 11:55

schestowitz_TR

no, 30 mins

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at 180 degrees

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schestowitz_TR

it's OK - LF

schestowitz_TR

they give "open source" drivers for the oven

schestowitz_TR

"it's opn github"

matey

naziwashing

matey

Tune it Up: Improving Redis Performance for Ampere A1 on Oracle Linux in OCI

http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | Techrights

schestowitz_TR

draft

matey

redis: ibm + github

schestowitz_TR

Micro Business Machines

schestowitz_TR

Microguns

schestowitz_TR

miniguns

http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/camel-linux.png

matey

Jun 21 11:59

matey

microsoft will buy it eventually

matey

of course they last time i said that, ibm did instead

schestowitz_TR

LT holds the trademark

schestowitz_TR

and can leave

matey

but since theyre the same company

schestowitz_TR

unlesss...

schestowitz_TR

"welll, he's dead"

matey

i think LMI owns it

schestowitz_TR

Linux Mark

schestowitz_TR

yeah

schestowitz_TR

but who runs that?

schestowitz_TR

they keep saying the person's name

matey

i really think linux is already dead

matey

not as a product

psydruid

The Linux Group™

matey

but as anything useful to us

matey

lf is exploiting it

psydruid

the illegitimate heir to The Open Group™

matey

but linux volunteered for it to be exploited

techrights-news

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matey

linus ^

matey

lie-nus

schestowitz_TR

to be fair:

schestowitz_TR

it's usualy not him edenying gnu existed

schestowitz_TR

it's people around him

matey

mmhmm

schestowitz_TR

what zemlin called "suits"

schestowitz_TR

while he himseflf weara a tux

schestowitz_TR

never uses "the tux"

matey

i wont forgive him for that "about hate" shit

schestowitz_TR

just wears one

schestowitz_TR

because... "the suits"

schestowitz_TR

nils torvalds is about hate

schestowitz_TR

look what he did in his youth

schestowitz_TR

poro-russia

schestowitz_TR

*pro

schestowitz_TR

linus does not want to comment on politics

schestowitz_TR

it would quickly land him in trouble

matey

nils is pro-russia, NOW?

schestowitz_TR

look up torvalds socialism cnn

schestowitz_TR

they asked him if linus was socialism

schestowitz_TR

or he was socialist

schestowitz_TR

and he started tip-toing all overe

psydruid

it has merged with The 'Ndrangheta Group™

schestowitz_TR

*toeing

https://yewtu.be/vi/isolAS66Puw/mqdefault.jpg

schestowitz_TR

schestowitz_TR

one month ago: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=isolAS66Puw

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Could Finland outgun Russia? | Nils Torvalds - Invidious

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dr_jTob_TwA

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds 09 March 2022 plenary speech on security of Europe - Invidious

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2k0jkQMTRDI

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nils Torvalds EUdebates European security and the EU's role in a changing world - Invidious

schestowitz_TR

he has only 53 subscribers in gulagtube https://yewtu.be/channel/UCT_JXe1Xb5JNZqLNfOi3gsg

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MEP Nils Torvalds - Invidious

matey

im not getting useful results

schestowitz_TR

about the same number of views as spamnil

schestowitz_TR

around 20

schestowitz_TR

maybe he shoiuld speak to spamnil

schestowitz_TR

these days scsamnil contacts some scammersa

schestowitz_TR

they run clickfarms on his videos

schestowitz_TR

no comments, no likes

schestowitz_TR

thousands of FAKE views

schestowitz_TR

I showed rianne and she loled

schestowitz_TR

it's veyr easy to see

schestowitz_TR

surprisingly few videos

matey

linux.com should have a channel on rutube.ru

schestowitz_TR

nils is popular in .fi

schestowitz_TR

and more famous because of his son

schestowitz_TR

and yet few videos and subscrbers

schestowitz_TR

kind of sad, not worth the time it takes him to upload

Jun 21 12:10

schestowitz_TR

he had uploaded for nearly 4 years

Jun 21 12:10

schestowitz_TR

his oldest video is stuck at 26 views

Jun 21 12:10

schestowitz_TR

FT speaks to the "exprts" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6b89jcNqgJo

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Henry Kissinger: ‘We are now living in a totally new era’ | FT - Invidious

matey

maybe he should give money to linux.com

schestowitz_TR

FT.. funded by billG

schestowitz_TR

bribed

schestowitz_TR

and by EPO too

schestowitz_TR

FT = mountain of bribes

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schestowitz_TR

and some subscribers

schestowitz_TR

and forced subscriptions through airlines

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=34XymEDY9Wc

schestowitz_TR

that put this sepia yellowing paper at the entrance at the plane

Jun 21 12:12

matey

the ussr really has fallen

Jun 21 12:12

matey

youre supposed to put a big throw rug at the entrance

Jun 21 12:12

matey

i fucking love it when they do that

Jun 21 12:13

techrights-news

"But suppose that your current directory, /whatever/foo, is a symlink, and some other process has deleted and recreated foo." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-06-21_Go_where_.gmi

Jun 21 12:14

matey

Jun 21 12:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Entering A Mysterious Exclave You've Never Heard Of ( In A Soviet Bi-plane ) - Invidious

Jun 21 12:14

schestowitz_TR

good news

Jun 21 12:16

schestowitz_TR

epo protest next week

Jun 21 12:16

matey

have they unionised yet?

Jun 21 12:17

schestowitz_TR

yes, before epo even existed

schestowitz_TR

epo is like lf

matey

and of course epo has fought back

schestowitz_TR

it's a merger of things

schestowitz_TR

it always does

schestowitz_TR

but much worse

schestowitz_TR

they break tghe law all the time

matey

its a merger of public and private control

schestowitz_TR

writing articl, bbiab

schestowitz_TR

merger of nazi and dutch thing

matey

will 2022 be the year of the free software sbc

Jun 21 12:23

matey

since the linux desktop will never matter

Jun 21 12:23

schestowitz_TR

haha

schestowitz_TR

good one

schestowitz_TR

and true

schestowitz_TR

rianne uses an sbc

schestowitz_TR

as a desktop

schestowitz_TR

and another arm laptop

schestowitz_TR

she has two arms

matey

so do i

https://www.twitter.com/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929

psydruid

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929 )

schestowitz_TR

the intel one overheats and beeps

matey

born with them

schestowitz_TR

a lot in summer

matey

the intel one overheats and beeps <- thats nice to know

schestowitz_TR

StarFive Technology (@StarFiveTech): "Based on RISC-V ultra-high performance 8-core SoC, what end product do you want? A laptop, a Mini PC/NUC, or a development board? Please fill out this questionnaire：http://starfive.mikecrm.com/VZ4YhIX and let us help you to make it happen."|nitter.it ⚓ https://nitter.eu/starfivetech/status/1539066172691324929 ䷉ Source: nitter

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matey

i really wanted to waste money on one of those at one point

matey

years ago

matey

now i know what it would be like to use

schestowitz_TR

brb

schestowitz_TR

typing urgent article

XRevan86

schestowitz: "can you confirm Rusian media says Windows is banned for download?" <- https://meduza.io/news/2022/06/19/polzovateli-iz-rossii-ne-smogli-skachat-s-sayta-microsoft-utility-dlya-ustanovki-windows

Jun 21 12:27

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https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/20/more-than-serious "Russia threatens retaliatory measures after Lithuania bans transit of EU-sanctioned goods to Kaliningrad"

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https://theins.press/en/news/252412

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Dmitry Muratov sold his Nobel Medal for $103.5 million to aid Ukrainian refugees

https://theins.press/en/news/252416

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Occupation authorities evict Mariupol residents from half-destroyed homes, offer symbolic compensation

https://theins.press/en/news/252419

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Navalny put in “prison inside prison” to cut him off from communication and news, his daughter says

https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/21/a78053

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Kremlin Spokesman Says Americans Captured in Ukraine Committed 'Crimes' - The Moscow Times

matey

"Russia threatens retaliatory measures"

techrights-ipfs-bot

Jun 21 12:30

matey

get ready lithuania, youre going to have a bunch of tanks with no fuel parked around your main roads

Jun 21 12:30

matey

followed by soldiers sheepishly carrying tanks of gas and asking for directions

Jun 21 12:31

XRevan86

The amount of messages written here tonight is overwhelming.

Jun 21 12:32

matey

we had a party

Jun 21 12:33

XRevan86

schestowitz: "this iis very significant if as true as reported in English" <- Not necessarily, it could be a temporary breakage. Significance will become apparent in time.

schestowitz_TR

maybe they make an ENHANCEEE backoodr version

schestowitz_TR

with "SS" for "11"

schestowitz_TR

or "ZZ"

schestowitz_TR

the Zvaztika

Jun 21 12:36

matey

ZWINDOWS

Jun 21 12:36

matey

VVINDOWS FOR VVICTORY

Jun 21 12:36

matey

putin is working on another replacment turret, inspired by the terminator and old notebook computers

Jun 21 12:38

matey

the terminator is an old russian tank with a turret that serves a different purpose

Jun 21 12:38

matey

this new tank hes making addresses one of the drawbacks of the present situation, inspired by laptops that let you swap out the floppy drive for a second battery

Jun 21 12:39

matey

this model, instead of a turret, has a second gas tank as a replacement

Jun 21 12:39

matey

it can drive around for literally hours without refueling

Jun 21 12:40

matey

admittedly, it cant shoot at very much

Jun 21 12:41

matey

but neither can a tank that has no fuel, and this one at least is capable of a retreat

Jun 21 12:41

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Where were you all these years, European publishers, intentionally turning a blind eye to EPO crimes? At what point will the public get a feeling that the point of today's press is to COVER UP CRIME instead of covering crime?

Jun 21 13:07

matey

stallman on ties:

matey

The people who yield to the pressure to wear ties are victim-coperpetrators: each one who wears a tie at work increases the pressure on others. This is a central concept for understanding other forms of propagating nastiness, including nonfree software and Facebook.

matey

"each one who wears a tie at work increases the pressure on others. This is a central concept for understanding other forms of propagating nastiness"

matey

"This is a central concept"

https://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/

matey

stallman on the open spanish inquisition that has dismantled the movement he founded:

Jun 21 13:14

matey

Jun 21 13:14

matey

evidence of the real stallman, circa whenever he wrote that about ties

Jun 21 13:14

matey

Jun 21 13:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights

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matey

to describe his lifestyle, he started with music http://web.archive.org/web/20100612210610/http://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html

Jun 21 13:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | LifeStyle

Jun 21 13:19

matey

a year later he had added "home" and "food"

Jun 21 13:19

matey

the stuff about ties was added between 2011 and 2012

Jun 21 13:20

techrights-news

KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved | Tux Machines

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Physical Demonstration at the EPO’s Headquarters and the Staff Explains Why | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Physical Demonstration at the EPO’s Headquarters and the Staff Explains Why | Techrights

https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/null.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-null#comic )

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[Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/

Jun 21 13:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | Techrights

Jun 21 13:40

techrights-news

"Daniel Ellsberg discusses the significance of the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the growing danger of nuclear war with U.S. and NATO." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/20/daniel-ellsberg-on-nuclear-war-and-ukraine/

Jun 21 13:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Daniel Ellsberg on Nuclear War and Ukraine – scheerpost.com

Jun 21 13:42

techrights-news

"I have been here in Ft Worth since last Friday. It has been over 100 degrees F for most of that time." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20220620.gmi

Jun 21 13:43

MinceR

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17 techrights posts the past 24 hours. Highest ever was 29 or 31 (cannot remember; it was 2009 or 2010)

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MinceR

https://ircz.de/p/1801287

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/gcj7tqq8nib01.jpg created on 2018-01-28 02:15:08.565985

matey

I seem to remember Jimmy Wales getting involved in the naming

matey

controversy on Wikipedia, saying somewhere that almost every instance

matey

of "Linux" on Wikipedia should be GNU/Linux instead. This was a number

matey

of years ago.

matey

Did I make that up? I can't find any references for it anymore. -- Greg Farough // Campaigns Manager https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00004.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Wikipedia extolled as an aide for getting history correct

matey

this was quite interesting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00003.html

Jun 21 15:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Wikipedia extolled as an aide for getting history correct

Jun 21 15:42

matey

the importance of getting history right

Jun 21 15:42

matey

and its relevance to operations in something like the fsf

Jun 21 15:43

matey

with all the history being rewritten, both in the movement and (as the author mentions) in russia

Jun 21 15:43

matey

<yrk> moreover, and to the chagrin of rule-minded programmers, licenses are not

matey

code, and judges are not machines. people interpret licenses, sometimes they

matey

get challenged, and sometimes they don't

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-06/msg00000.html

matey

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | How does the System Library Exception work, when the GPL-covered work is

matey

licenses are not code, and judges are not machines. people interpret licenses, sometimes they get challenged, and sometimes they don't <- i strongly agree with this

matey

licenses are "code" of a sort though

matey

but not in the same way as other "code" and that is the authors point

matey

lessig of course, wrote an entire book on the theme of rules = code

https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/21/a78060

matey

im not sure these disputes negate his points, but they would certainly throw a wrench into a shallow intepretation of them

Jun 21 15:49

XRevan86

Jun 21 15:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Moscow Vows ‘Serious Consequences’ for Lithuania Over Kaliningrad Rail Ban - The Moscow Times

matey

<yrk> for the recond, I think that copyright law is anachronistic and

matey

ill-conceived. but it is what we have right now...

matey

<Andrew> true...

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oligarchy-countries

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Jun 21 15:51

matey

russian oligarchy: serious business

Jun 21 15:52

matey

Jun 21 15:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-worldpopulationreview.com | Oligarchy Countries 2022

Jun 21 15:54

matey

"An oligarchy is a governmental system in which teh government"

Jun 21 15:55

matey

https://questionablecontent.net/comics/2.png

Jun 21 15:55

matey

"is controlled by a small group of people, or oligarchs."

Jun 21 15:55

matey

One of the most well-known oligarchies is Russia, which historians say has been ruled by one authoritative oligarchy or another since at least the 1400s. The dissolution of the Soviet Union from roughly 1988-1991 was a particular flashpoint for oligarchy, because it enabled a small group of wealthy individuals (mostly bankers) to gain controlling interest of many of the country's most valuable resources and utilities (such as oil fields).

Jun 21 15:56

matey

"This resulted in a situation in which politicians ruled the country, but the oligarchs ruled the politicians."

Jun 21 15:57

matey

For example, Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2020 spearheaded a constitutional amendment that, among other things, reset his term limit so he could conceivably remain president until 2036

Jun 21 15:57

matey

we have to make sure russia never becomes 64-bit or we are in real trouble

Jun 21 15:58

matey

if they upgrade, putins term limit could last another 292 billion years

Jun 21 15:59

matey

thats the bad news

Jun 21 15:59

matey

the good news is that with putin at the helm, the chances of russia having 64 bits to spare is exceedingly small

Jun 21 16:00

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Jun 21 16:06

matey

Because "oligarchy" is a slightly amorphous, subjective term, there is no definitive list of which countries are and are not oligarchies. However, a strong case could be made for each of the following countries: China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, United States (debated), Venezuela, and Zimbabwe.

Jun 21 16:07

AdmFubar

https://www.alternet.org/2022/06/billionaire-tax/

Jun 21 16:08

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet the billionaire and rising GOP mega-donor who’s gaming the tax system - Alternet.org

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XRevan86

https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1539108484859547655

Jun 21 16:14

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Kremlin propagandists sound pretty put out with my reporting that exposes their vile threats and warmongering conversations to the Western world. They also resent the headlines calling them names they don't like [Putin's cronies, puppets, stooges]. Oh well, if the shoe fits..."|nitter

Jun 21 16:14

XRevan86

So cute.

Jun 21 16:15

matey

if the shoe fits

Jun 21 16:24

MinceR

https://ircz.de/p/22061369

Jun 21 16:27

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6t16uacr8c491.jpg created on 2022-06-13 23:24:42.445233

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XRevan86

https://t.me/mcxrd/1765 I predict a great future to this little clip.

Jun 21 17:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @mcxrd

Jun 21 17:00

MinceR

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/vh9peo/just_pushed_my_first_pr_for_my_new_job_at/

Jun 21 17:01

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Just pushed my first PR for my new job at Cloudflare! : ProgrammerHumor

Jun 21 17:01

MinceR

(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/4vqoE21.mp4

Jun 21 17:14

techrights-news

2022-06-21 🔤SpellBinding: AZILOPE Wordo: ADDED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-21.gmi

Jun 21 17:15

matey

fake? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=umQL37AC_YM

Jun 21 17:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "I've never installed gnu/linux" - Richard Stallman - Invidious

Jun 21 17:16

matey

im on the fence but looks real

Jun 21 17:17

techrights-news

This Open-Source Project Proves Chrome Extensions Can Track You • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166289

Jun 21 17:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Open-Source Project Proves Chrome Extensions Can Track You | Tux Machines

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techrights-news

Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166290

Jun 21 17:18

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

Jun 21 17:18

matey

i had to play it back more than once, but the thing is i can see him saying that

techrights-news

KDE Plasma 5.25.1, Bugfix Release for June http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288#comment-34082

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved | Tux Machines

matey

not that the technology doesnt exist to fake that now. in the future im sure he will say "i huff kittens"

matey

"i dont have any kittens but if i did, i huff them sometimes"

MinceR

"the orange ones fuck you up real good"

Jun 21 17:21

matey

"you should only huff free kittens, because non-free kittens dont respect your freedom"

Jun 21 17:21

matey

of course theres no such thing as free kittens, but it turns out they 1. have a proprietary design 2. cost twice as much as other proprietary kittens despite being older 3. really are only called that because theyre known to be compatible with free drivers

Jun 21 17:22

MinceR

"eat free kids"

Jun 21 17:22

matey

children left unattended will be given a cappucino and free operating system

Jun 21 17:24

MinceR

Jun 21 17:24

matey

or as i like to call it systemd minus gnu

Jun 21 17:25

MinceR

that's not a free operating system :(

Jun 21 17:26

MinceR

could be an fsf-"free" operating system though

matey

nor a free software foundation

matey

but its a formerly free operating system

MinceR

as long as it makes certain software difficult to install

matey

and a former software foundation

matey

now its the gnu water bottle foundation

MinceR

(that is an important requirement for fsf-"free" operating systems)

matey

theres a blunt that goes with those sunglasses

Jun 21 17:28

matey

did the gnu eat it, or are the people who added that to the tshirts smoking it?

Jun 21 17:28

matey

so many things theyve done, wouldnt be so egregious

matey

if they werent after gutting the entire thing

matey

after doing fuck-all to fight for years at a time

matey

now its like welp, doesnt matter now!

matey

draw a funny moustache on him too

matey

give him buck teeth

Jun 21 17:30

matey

its a joke now anyway

Jun 21 17:30

matey

easier to join in the fun when you dont have to swear an oath to lieplanet first

Jun 21 17:30

matey

I SOLUMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE DOUBLE STANDARDS OF IBM NOW GIVE MY GNU SUNGLASSES

Jun 21 17:31

matey

are you now or have you ever been a poster on 4chan?

Jun 21 17:31

matey

"is it true, mr nixon, that ten years ago you said people should be raped with a text editor?"

Jun 21 17:32

matey

"no, thats not what i said"

Jun 21 17:33

matey

"well what did you say they should be violated with?"

Jun 21 17:33

matey

"the aristihub!"

Jun 21 17:33

matey

you know the worst part about the gnu wearing pixel-art sunglasses?

Jun 21 17:35

matey

jason robinson, the grand inquisitor of the socialhoneypotiverse, wore them on his avatar for YEARS

matey

and he signed the letter

matey

so now the gnu looks like jason fucking robinson

matey

(at least theyre not in colour)

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MHh-j-1-zcM

matey

/me checks to see if the gnu head signed the letter too (or someone signed it for him)

Jun 21 17:37

matey

/me says "fuck it whatever" and just puts gnu horns on snoopy instead

Jun 21 17:39

matey

i think peanuts has fared better

Jun 21 17:40

matey

even if charlie brown and stallman have similar tailors

Jun 21 17:40

matey

"you blockhead! i stayed out here all night waiting for the great distro!"

Jun 21 17:41

matey

good grief

Jun 21 17:42

matey

Jun 21 17:43

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How Richard Stallman and I failed to protect the web from the man who invented it - CubaConf 2017 - Invidious

Jun 21 17:43

*schestowitz_TR back

Jun 21 17:46

matey

kids in the hall makes snl look tame

Jun 21 17:49

matey

then again sometimes mister rogers neighbourhood makes snl look tame

Jun 21 17:50

techrights-news

Why EPO Scandals (and Next Week’s Protest) Are a Very Big Deal | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/

Jun 21 17:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why EPO Scandals (and Next Week’s Protest) Are a Very Big Deal | Techrights

Jun 21 17:51

matey

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3njtkgHPbpI

Jun 21 18:02

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Kids in the Hall - Give me a tea you bastard - Invidious

Jun 21 18:02

matey

(unrelated to earlier comment, this one is just silly)

Jun 21 18:03

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[Meme] EPO Funding Microsoft and the War Against Ukraine | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/

Jun 21 18:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Funding Microsoft and the War Against Ukraine | Techrights

Jun 21 18:20

techrights-news

"OP is correct that there’s enough documentation and software out there to get moving. The community seems adrift though. I couldn’t figure out where the main protocol repo is, for example." gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/494

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techrights-news

low bandwidth lifestyle gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/low-bandwidth-lifestyle

Jun 21 18:24

schestowitz

"Summertime Summertime summer summer time time by The Busters

Jun 21 18:26

schestowitz

" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1025

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pvr: Add TI AM62 as a supported device. https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=62cc9bba06a1a3479558267e70f46e321f73f486

Jun 21 18:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)

Jun 21 18:28

techrights-news

Michael Larabel i still running AMD ads, no connection to Linux!!! https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Ryzen-Embedded-R2000 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Announces Ryzen Embedded R2000 Series With Zen+ Cores, Radeon Graphics - Phoronix

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights

matey

fi wonder if nina paley feels good about being allied with people like this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qrKABoYiE20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | BANNING DRAG SHOWS FOR CHILDREN? - Invidious

techrights-ipfs-bot

matey

i mean its complete hypocrisy, im 100% certain thats alex jones in a wig and makeup

techrights-news

The site that was once a hub for GNU/Linux news has become just Linux Foundation trash; it’s not even about Linux anymore http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/diluting-the-linux-trademark/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Not About Linux (Anymore) | Techrights

matey

my favourite is when she shows her sponsor though

Jun 21 18:32

matey

obviously moved up from male enhancement and letters from the nigerian finance minister

Jun 21 18:32

techrights-news

EPO staff is sick and tired of abuse and corruption at the employer, which was supposed to serve Europe and to serve science (instead if became like a secretive private bank that violates every law it wants to) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/demonstrating-at-the-epo/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Physical Demonstration at the EPO’s Headquarters and the Staff Explains Why | Techrights

techrights-news

Nobody at the EPO is dumb enough to be fooled by the charlatan António Campinos, who refers to himself as “the f***ing president” (no kidding; the Hubris is humongous) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-salaries-meme/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Re-election Package of the “F***ing President” (in His Own Words) | Techrights

techrights-news

In the video above I go through the document explaining “internal” EPO scandals (directed towards staff) and there’s still time to contact European politicians and media; there’s no valid excuse for turning a blind eye http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/internal-epo-scandals/

techrights-news

The EPO‘s Belarusian blunder (more below) is still 100% uncovered — as in NOT covered — by the mainstream media (or any site other than Techrights for that matter) http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/epo-and-war-against-ukraine/

techrights-news

Yukika goes under a "ubuntu" label (Japanese/Korean) https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/music/yukika-new-digital-single-scent-3252229

Jun 21 18:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nme.com | Yukika announces new single '향기'

Jun 21 18:35

techrights-news

"Canonical’s Ubuntu Core 22, the fully containerized Ubuntu 22.04 LTS variant optimized for IoT and edge devices," http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34084

Jun 21 18:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux Machines

Jun 21 18:37

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Eyes on Kenya: government must uphold commitment to connectivity during elections - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/kenya-government-internet-connectivity-elections/ militarisation and weaponisation of the Internet by FOREIGN nations has RIGHTLY led to suspicions of it.

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Eyes on Kenya: government must uphold commitment to connectivity during elections - Access Now

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In a bittersweet ruling, EU Court of Justice allows EU-wide border surveillance scheme but clarifies its limits - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/eu-court-of-justice-ruling-pnr-directive/ ䷉ Source: accessnow

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | In a bittersweet ruling, EU Court of Justice allows EU-wide border surveillance scheme but clarifies its limits - Access Now

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KDE Plasma 5.25.1 (First Point Release) Brings 50+ Changes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166291

Jun 21 18:40

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25.1 (First Point Release) Brings 50+ Changes | Tux Machines

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Microsoft FUD buddies Snyk connected to Jim Zemlin and his fellow kakistocrats https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/21/2465876/0/en/New-Research-from-Snyk-and-The-Linux-Foundation-Reveals-Significant-Security-Concerns-Resulting-from-Open-Source-Software-Ubiquity.html LF is Linux-hosile because... FOLLOW THE MONEY

Jun 21 18:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | New Research from Snyk and The Linux Foundation Reveals

Jun 21 18:45

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Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292

Jun 21 18:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines

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20 Useful Security Features and Tools for Linux Admins ⚓ https://www.tecmint.com/security-features-tools-linux-admins/ ䷉ Source: TecMint FreeSW | GNU | Linux

Jun 21 18:49

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 20 Useful Security Features and Tools for Linux Admins

Jun 21 18:49

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Very little value for money. You're subsidising evil ICBM... NOT GNU/Linux development. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/rhel-subscription-manager

Jun 21 18:51

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | How to use Subscription Manager on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) | Enable Sysadmin

Jun 21 18:51

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"According to a SurveyMonkey study"... STUDY? Those are NOT studies but roll-out-your-own propaganda. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-leadership-6-questions-mentors-should-ask-mentees

Jun 21 18:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT leadership: 6 questions mentors should ask mentees | The Enterprisers Project

Jun 21 18:53

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"Clown consultants" sounds like a paradox. Either you're a clown or you're a real consultant rather than a poser and imposter (reseller of junk and "clown" diagrams) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/cloud-consultants-4-questions-ask-about-your-strategy

Jun 21 18:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Cloud consultants: 4 questions to ask about your strategy | The Enterprisers Project

Jun 21 18:55

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Sabine Soellheim and SUSE CEO: we work for SAP but we receive our salary from this "Linux" thing called "SUSE" (we don't know what it stands for and what it does!) https://www.suse.com/c/why-data-management-strategies-are-so-important-for-you/

Jun 21 18:58

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Data Management Strategies Are So Important For You | SUSE Communities

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Jun 21 18:59

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ICBM Red Hat... Microsoft ShitHub (we don't value your freedom.... we keep saying "open") https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/21/distributed-tracing-opentelemetry-knative-and-quarkus

Jun 21 18:59

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Distributed tracing with OpenTelemetry, Knative, and Quarkus | Red Hat Developer

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"The Operations Team is the only team that can touch the production systems." https://opensource.com/article/22/6/effective-incident-response-site-reliability-engineers

Jun 21 19:01

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XRevan86

https://t.me/chtede/51132 Cowards from the Ministry of Agriculture of Dagestan removed the video with the Z-sheeps.

Jun 21 19:04

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @chtede

Jun 21 19:04

XRevan86

So I have to post it again, with a re-upload.

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Fedora 2012: community = free software enthusiasts. Fedora 2022: community = ICBM staff. CentOS 2018: community = ICBM staff. CentOS 2022: community = nobody, just seat fillers.

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Red Hat / IBM Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166293

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Wonder and Feeling Clever – alternatives to "subverting expectations" gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/wonder.gmi

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/fbi-says-fraud-on-linkedin-a-significant-threat-to-platform-and-consumers.html

AdmFubar

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | FBI says fraud on LinkedIn a 'significant threat' to platform and consumers

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Noromo gemini://idiomdrottning.org/noromo

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schestowitz_TR

Microsoft itself is significant threat

https://ircz.de/p/22061312

MinceR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/9s59tnq9o9591.jpg created on 2022-06-13 04:09:49.722666

http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights

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AdmFubar

I say someone was on drugs when they made this ad campaign! https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/say-sliders-to-drugs/

Jun 21 19:36

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Say Sliders to Drugs'? Real Sign Mocks Fake TMNT Meme | Snopes.com

Jun 21 19:36

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166294

Jun 21 19:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

Jun 21 19:37

schestowitz_TR

AdmFubar: they sure got attention/exposure

Jun 21 19:39

schestowitz_TR

that's a strategy sometimes

Jun 21 19:39

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Links 21/06/2022: RapidDisk 8.2.0 and KDE Plasma 5.25.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/kde-plasma-5-25-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/kde-plasma-5-25-1/

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AdmFubar

yeah just not the one they were after..

Jun 21 19:43

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MinceR

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Security and FUD Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295

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How to Create LaTeX Documents with Emacs https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-latex-documents-with-emacs/

Jun 21 19:50

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KDE Plasma 5.25.1 Fixes Frustrating Linux Desktop Bugs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166288#comment-34088

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop Gets First Point Release, Multi-GPU Support Improved | Tux Machines

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"In this video, I am going to show an overview of Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5OueYKJaP9w

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition overview | OS for everyone. - Invidious

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Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166296

Jun 21 20:09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

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Jonathan Riddell: Scotland should leave the UK. Also: OpenUK is great https://jriddell.org/2022/06/21/openuk-awards-2022/

Jun 21 20:10

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | OpenUK Awards 2022 – Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary

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What OpenUK did with OSI tarnishes its name: http://techrights.org/2022/05/02/osi-is-bought/

Jun 21 20:11

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Look From the Inside: Open Source Initiative’s Voting Process is a Sham, Large Corporations Are in Charge | Techrights

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Adriaan de Groot: "The KDE Community has used – and gently encouraged – the Fiduciary License Agreement (FLA) which was created by the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) some 15 years ago." When FSFE did something useful. https://euroquis.nl//kde/2022/06/21/fla.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | FLA Two | [bobulate]

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Microsoft bribes GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166130#comment-34087

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OSI and GNOME (and Microsoft Bribes) | Tux Machines

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Spamnil = LF megaphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34086

Jun 21 20:13

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines

Jun 21 20:13

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TrueNAS "SCALE" 22.02.2 is out, but the TrueNAS site is technically defunct. No reason I should have to download nearly 15,000,000 bytes just to render this page: https://www.truenas.com/

Jun 21 20:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TrueNAS Open Storage | ZFS for the Home to the Data Center

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Exploitable remotely https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-02

Jun 21 20:16

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | JTEKT TOYOPUC | CISA

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"This is a great opportunity to connect with your fellow Fedorans and receive some amazing Fedora swag." Will ICBM give them NFTs? Will slaves be paid in panda PNGs? Or clothes made in sweatshots (other slaves)? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/hatch-with-fedora/

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https://hardforum.com/threads/microsoft-to-remove-ability-to-install-win-11-pro-without-being-online-and-signing-in-to-microsoft-account.2017854/

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Almost ALL the BIGGEST flaws are in proprietary software, NOT in Free software. Guess what corrupted, bribed corporate media pays far more attention to...

Jun 21 20:19

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"Knock knock"..."who's there?" CVSS v3 9.8! (Out of 10) Equipment: SIMATIC WinCC OA https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-06

Jun 21 20:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Siemens WinCC OA | CISA

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Don't worry, lads. The world's systems will be secure. They'll be secured by people with a degree in genetics. And EPO will be run by bankers.

Jun 21 20:21

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You should not have to pay this much for it. Use RockyLinux instead. Don't pay ICBM while it is ATTACKING the community. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-insights-launches-new-recommendations-keep-application-streams-running

Jun 21 20:23

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Insights launches new recommendations to keep Application Streams running

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Linux [sic] Foundation now works with Microsoft to spread FUD and distract from Microsoft's back/bug doors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34089

Jun 21 20:24

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD Leftovers | Tux Machines

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Linux [sic] Foundation is named after the thing it is oppressing if not attacking

Jun 21 20:25

psydroid2

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Red Hat CEO did not quit ICBM because he was at age of retirement. He quit ICBM because even as ICBM PRESIDENT he saw what a dead end the company was...

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardforum.com | Microsoft to Remove Ability to Install Win 11 Pro Without Being Online and Signing in to Microsoft Account | [H]ard|Forum

psydroid2

the BS in this thread is enormous

schestowitz_TR

psydroid2: I posted the same link some days ago,, iirc

psydroid2

with people paid to apologise for Microsoft

schestowitz_TR

micropsoft shoots its own foot

schestowitz_TR

and it is pissing off a lot of people

psydroid2

schestowitz_TR, I read it because you posted it here

schestowitz_TR

some move to gnu/linux

schestowitz_TR

ah, makes sense now

schestowitz_TR

well, micerosoft pays for the shills

schestowitz_TR

unless they are mvps

schestowitz_TR

in which case they are usefuil idiotcs of organised crime syndidcate

schestowitz_TR

fighting to maintain some installbase fiorot them to "support"

RISC-V 3D GPU https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/15/2462749/0/en/Think-Silicon-to-Unveil-Industry-s-First-RISC-V-3D-GPU-at-Embedded-World-2022.html?s=09

psydroid2

but it's good to see that they're losing the narrative also or maybe especially in the US

Jun 21 20:29

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Mozilla quit being a technical company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/joey-amato-publisher-of-pride-journeys-shares-what-brings-him-joy-online/ see http://techrights.org/2022/06/13/mozilla-politics-blog/

Jun 21 20:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Joey Amato, Publisher of Pride Journeys, Shares What Brings Him Joy Online

Jun 21 20:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla, Just Like the Linux Foundation, Has Turned to Politics at Firefox’s Expense | Techrights

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Mozilla is pushing spyware instead of Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/reflecting-on-10-years-of-time-well-spent-with-pocket/

Jun 21 20:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Reflecting on 10 years of time well spent with Pocket

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Mozilla now makes a semi-apology for mass surveillance https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/understanding-apples-private-click-measurement/

Jun 21 20:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Understanding Apple’s Private Click Measurement

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every now and then Mozilla openly admits it does not value users' privacy, causing an uproar that can take years to quell or calm down while Firefox keeps losing millions of users every month https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/pocket/reflecting-on-10-years-of-time-well-spent-with-pocket/

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Can Gulag purchase enough popcorn from the supply chain? To watch how Mozilla destroys itself?

Jun 21 20:35

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Mozilla is a bloated company with a bloated browser, having become accustomed to bloated budget from Gulag (which comes with super-bloated strings)

Jun 21 20:36

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Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-01

Jun 21 20:37

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC Q and L Series | CISA

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Jun 21 20:38

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Think Silicon to Unveil Industry’s First RISC-V 3D GPU at

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"Rust support being such an exciting feature and judging by the past timing, I think the first kernel with merged Rust support should be called 6.0." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1329923-linus-torvalds-rust-for-the-kernel-could-possibly-be-merged-for-linux-5-20 Linus quit leading Linus http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linus Torvalds: Rust For The Kernel Could Possibly Be Merged For Linux 5.20 - Phoronix Forums

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights

Jun 21 20:40

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Linux 6.0: Microsoft GitHub down. Cannot release Linux.

Jun 21 20:41

MinceR

https://ircz.de/p/22061310

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ybZ9z4T.jpg created on 2022-06-13 03:09:59.296251

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Who pays for Microsoft to buy GitHub, Skype etc.? The US TAXPAYER: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers’ Expense | Techrights

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RISC OS is 35 but it’s still kicking • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166297

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC OS is 35 but it's still kicking | Tux Machines

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7 summer book recommendations from open source enthusiasts https://opensource.com/article/22/6/2022-opensourcecom-summer-reading-list

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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 summer book recommendations from open source enthusiasts | Opensource.com

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"The Central Bank of Austria has published a report in the context of a workshop celebrating 20 years of Euro-denominated cash. The report discusses the future of cash, including account- and blockchain-based designs, as well as GNU Taler." https://taler.net/en/news/2022-07.html

Jun 21 20:45

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taler.net | GNU Taler

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an optimistic evacuation of my wordhoard -- wingolog ⚓ https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/06/21/an-optimistic-evacuation-of-my-wordhoard ䷉ Source: wingolog

Jun 21 20:46

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wingolog.org | an optimistic evacuation of my wordhoard -- wingolog

Jun 21 20:46

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"Reducing the power to tech monopolies would do more to “fix” the Internet than any other single action, and I am generally in favor of them both." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/hidden-anti-cryptography-provisions-in-internet-anti-trust-bills.html

Jun 21 20:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hidden Anti-Cryptography Provisions in Internet Anti-Trust Bills - Schneier on Security

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Atari ST - What a computer. gemini://blog.datapulp.de/atari-st-what-a-computer

Jun 21 20:50

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Here we go AGAIN. It's PROPRIETARY software: CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!) https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-05

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact Classic Line Industrial Controllers | CISA

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CVSS v3 9.8 AGAIN https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-04 Proprietary junk

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact ProConOS and MULTIPROG | CISA

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CVSS v3 9.8 a third time! "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an attacker to upload logic with arbitrary code." Media coverage will be NOTHING. Because it's NOT "Open Source" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-172-03

Jun 21 20:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Phoenix Contact Classic Line Controllers | CISA

Jun 21 20:53

techrights-news

Linux Foundation does not protect us from FUD; instead it participates in the FUD

Jun 21 20:54

techrights-news

RISC-V Announces First New Specifications of 2022, Adding to 16 Ratified in 2021 | RISC-V International https://riscv.org/announcements/2022/06/risc-v-announces-first-new-specifications-of-2022-adding-to-16-ratified-in-2021-risc-v-international/

Jun 21 20:54

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-riscv.org | RISC-V Announces First New Specifications of 2022, Adding to 16 Ratified in 2021 | RISC-V International - RISC-V International

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https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1539326751104733184

XRevan86

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian state pokes fun at their favorite, mocking Trump's promise not to ever ride a bike: "How about going down a ramp?" Another barb follows: "What if Biden chokes on a hamburger? Will you swear off hamburgers?" Then they all laugh at Trump with toilet paper stuck to his shoe."|nitter

techrights-news

To use an analogy, the 'Linux' Foundation is the Trump-funded Tolerance Foundation and BP-sponsored Conservation Alliance. Ignore the name/words, check the actual operandi.

schestowitz_TR

sounds like gossip talk from Julia

schestowitz_TR

while people die

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MinceR

people die, things break

XRevan86

schestowitz: Rather, she quotes the gossip talk.

schestowitz_TR

yeah

schestowitz_TR

distracts from the war crimes, imho

schestowitz_TR

social control media is favouring such spoon-feeding

schestowitz_TR

for clicks

schestowitz_TR

"engagement"

techrights-ipfs-bot

schestowitz_TR

they call it "algotalk"

XRevan86

To me it's just bizarre, Zhuravlyov found it hilarious.

MinceR

the war crimes are only relevant if someone with the power is actually willing to invade orcland, cripple their warmaking capabilities, arrest putler and all UR members and punish them for their crimes

schestowitz_TR

maybe even Russia does this specifically to divide the US

schestowitz_TR

based on jokes

schestowitz_TR

and use social control media to make phony scandals

MinceR

and make sure orcland will never again have the ability to wage war

schestowitz_TR

while they kil people

XRevan86

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/21/15-people-killed-in-russian-attacks-on-ukraines-kharkiv-region-news "15 people killed in Russian attacks on Ukraine’s Kharkiv region"

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа

MinceR

it's pointless to talk about war crimes much if the people who could do something about it are unwilling to do so

schestowitz_TR

the west likes the war

schestowitz_TR

it's exploitd to the fullest

schestowitz_TR

Sleepy Jojo has just giveen a ton of money to military contreactorsd

schestowitz_TR

other than Microsoft

schestowitz_TR

they will lobby to carry on

*alextee has quit (connection closed)

schestowitz_TR

no war, less profits

schestowitz_TR

that also helps them feed us price hikes

*alextee (~alextee@m3i5skeyumn68.irc) has joined #techrights

XRevan86

The problem is that a lot of the war crimes are more-of-the-same, so one stops paying attention.

*alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving)

schestowitz_TR

paying attention to toilet paper-on-shoe joke won't help

schestowitz_TR

like obama with the mustard-coloured suit

schestowitz_TR

and murdoch hive talking about it for ages

Jun 21 21:02

XRevan86

schestowitz: I got a pretty much opposite impression, that even to this today, European countries are unwilling to provide sufficient military backing.

Jun 21 21:03

XRevan86

* to this day

Jun 21 21:03

schestowitz_TR

That's Europe

Jun 21 21:08

schestowitz_TR

US knows Eurpe standa to suffer

Jun 21 21:08

schestowitz_TR

US is very far away

Jun 21 21:08

schestowitz_TR

US just supplies (sells) weapons

schestowitz_TR

graft

schestowitz_TR

taxpayers' money to warlords

schestowitz_TR

USSA is finished

XRevan86

The US is also not really able to provide enough.

schestowitz_TR

it'll continue to exist

schestowitz_TR

like Russia after USSR

schestowitz_TR

but it'll be poor and failing

schestowitz_TR

and run by despot (maybe despots... if the main despot dies)

schestowitz_TR

those who can, will leave..

schestowitz_TR

<XRevan86> The US is also not really able to provide enough.

schestowitz_TR

maybe "supply chain" issue ;-)

schestowitz_TR

I reckon many US weapons nowadays have microchips in them that are imported from china

schestowitz_TR

the drone missiles have sony cameras

schestowitz_TR

japan

schestowitz_TR

but made in china obviously

Jun 21 21:11

schestowitz_TR

you cannot have your new cars because the components go (instead) into weapons that blow up the components

Jun 21 21:11

schestowitz_TR

that's US "efficiency"

Jun 21 21:11

schestowitz_TR

Sony was not upset about these sales

Jun 21 21:12

schestowitz_TR

but about the media finding out

Jun 21 21:12

schestowitz_TR

as it makes sony seem like military contractor tied to assassination

Jun 21 21:12

schestowitz_TR

of kids, dogs, etc. and illegal actions, too.

Jun 21 21:13

schestowitz_TR

but japan isn't known for valuing life anyway

Jun 21 21:13

techrights-news

SolidRun releases SOM module based on 64-bit Renesas RZ/G2LC SoC ⚓ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ ䷉ Source: LinuxGizmos | Hardware | Devices | GNU | Linux

Jun 21 21:17

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ )

Jun 21 21:17

techrights-news

"Senior Director, Diversity and Inclusion." Painting criminals as "ethical" is job title now. https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/open-source-community-gather-la-scale-19x

Jun 21 21:20

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Open Source Community to Gather in LA for SCALE 19x | Linux Journal

Jun 21 21:20

techrights-news

Companies become a lot more evil when they start hiring lawyers and other "bullshit jobs" instead of people who actually deliver core services

Jun 21 21:21

MinceR

(cat) https://i.imgur.com/CiQQuC5.jpeg

Jun 21 21:23

techrights-news

Linux has a new authenticator app, and it’s easy enough for anyone to use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165920#comment-34091

Jun 21 21:26

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use Authenticator to Generate Two-Factor Authentication Codes on Linux | Tux Machines

Jun 21 21:26

techrights-news

2021 Annual Survey Report | Inside Rust Blog ⚓ https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/06/21/survey-2021-report.html ䷉ Source: rust-lang

Jun 21 21:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | 2021 Annual Survey Report | Inside Rust Blog

Jun 21 21:28

techrights-news

This Tool Enables Live Clock on Wallpaper of Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME 42 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166298

Jun 21 21:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Tool Enables Live Clock on Wallpaper of Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME 42 | Tux Machines

Jun 21 21:29

techrights-ipfs-bot

Jun 21 21:30

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Embedded Git lib ted "You pig !!" 35-54W ... for a CPU alone https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/21/amd-ryzen-embedded-r2000-series-processors-with-up-to-four-cores-quad-display-support/

Jun 21 21:35

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | AMD unveils Ryzen Embedded R2000 Series processors with up to four cores, quad-display support - CNX Software

Jun 21 21:35

schestowitz_TR

psydroid2: start your engines!!

Jun 21 21:35

psydroid2

I'm running to the store as we speak!

Jun 21 21:36

techrights-news

RISC/ARM: nice lean meal. x86: here, have 12 small packs of potato chips. Enjoy your "meal"...

Jun 21 21:37

techrights-news

Steam Deck: look at all the polygons we render. But AMD/x86 is a hog, so you must plug that 'handheld' back into the socket after 60 minutes...

Jun 21 21:38

techrights-news

Even my gamegear in the mid 90s had better battery life than steam dreck.

Jun 21 21:40

psydroid2

the worst part is that these AMD chips aren't that much faster than ARM chips with a fraction of the power consumption

https://browser.geekbench.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=8cx+gen+3

psydroid2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browser.geekbench.com | Geekbench Search - Geekbench Browser

https://browser.geekbench.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=ryzen+5300g

psydroid2

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-browser.geekbench.com | Geekbench Search - Geekbench Browser

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Tech 'progress': "phones" that need to be charged every day instead of once a week and "gaming" console that suffocates for 'juice' after one hour...

psydroid2

it just never made sense for me to jump on the AMD bandwagon over the past few years

schestowitz_TR

I have a new machine with amd athlon

schestowitz_TR

it need a fan

schestowitz_TR

and it's not that fast

schestowitz_TR

it's in some way sloweer than the pi4

psydroid2

that's why I built my last desktop in 2009

psydroid2

I can't stand heat and fan noise

schestowitz_TR

imagine trying to run windows on this thing

psydroid2

it literally gives me a headache

schestowitz_TR

the fan noise I became more aware of when I got rid of x86

schestowitz_TR

and then you can sleep in peace

schestowitz_TR

the CRTs made another kind of noise

psydroid2

that's been my experience

schestowitz_TR

another is magnetic drive

schestowitz_TR

IF it spins

schestowitz_TR

whioch happens with some OSes while idle

schestowitz_TR

those noise might not make a difference iuf you lkive next to a road

Jun 21 21:44

schestowitz_TR

sometimes you don't need task monitoring

schestowitz_TR

you can hear the strain

psydroid2

I still see a decreasing role for x86 when it comes to raw performance, but that's mainly based on price/performance for high core counts

schestowitz_TR

with your ears

schestowitz_TR

and it warms up

schestowitz_TR

happened to me some days ago wqhen dolphin maxed up a cpu core

psydroid2

you turn on the machine, do a certain job and switch it off

psydroid2

that's how I use x86 these days

schestowitz_TR

hmmm

Jun 21 21:46

schestowitz_TR

cpu scaling might do

Jun 21 21:46

techrights-news

What a hideous headline https://tecadmin.net/what-is-computer-hardware/

Jun 21 21:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecadmin.net | What is Computer Hardware? – TecAdmin

Jun 21 21:47

psydroid2

what I am wondering about in particular is sales of used hardware

techrights-news

Surveys are not "research"; 'Linux' Foundation has rebranded marketing as 'research', just like Microsoft... https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/todo-group-announces-2022-ospo-survey/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | TODO Group Announces 2022 OSPO Survey - Linux Foundation

psydroid2

we will be seeing a lot of used hardware for very low prices over the next few years

psydroid2

so why would you ever buy new if you don't need the latest and greatest?

Jun 21 21:49

psydroid2

s/for/at/

Jun 21 21:49

techrights-news

No kidding. This page mentions "clown" like 40 times! https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/nephio-sees-rapid-growth-as-more-organizations-commit-to-simplify-cloud-native-automation-of-telecom-network-functions/

Jun 21 21:50

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Nephio Sees Rapid Growth as More Organizations Commit to Simplify Cloud Native Automation of Telecom Network Functions - Linux Foundation

Jun 21 21:50

schestowitz_TR

spare or unwanted stocks can be good too

Jun 21 21:50

schestowitz_TR

in outlets

schestowitz_TR

unwanted, returned machines

psydroid2

I expect those to become available as well, of course

schestowitz_TR

that would never run window

schestowitz_TR

sso you get them like half price

psydroid2

even older unsold hardware that they can't really sell at regular prices anymore

techrights-news

Public Knowledge Policy Counsel Kathleen Burke Receives WifiForward Wi-Fi At Work Award https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-policy-counsel-kathleen-burke-receives-wififorward-wi-fi-at-work-award/ they still need to kick out Microsoft (organised crime) from their Board

Jun 21 21:52

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Policy Counsel Kathleen Burke Receives WifiForward Wi-Fi At Work Award - Public Knowledge

Jun 21 21:52

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Hey U! pineapple-for-head ;-) https://www.davidrevoy.com/article914/dryad-fan-art

Jun 21 21:53

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Dryad (fan-art) - David Revoy

Jun 21 21:53

psydroid2

I'm actually waiting for an ARM and/or RISC-V chip that makes all the mainstream x86 hardware before 2020 obsolete from a price/performance/watt perspective

Jun 21 21:53

techrights-news

Debian in Canada https://veronneau.org/montreals-debian-stuff-june-2022.html

Jun 21 21:55

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-veronneau.org | Louis-Philippe Véronneau - Montreal's Debian & Stuff - June 2022

Jun 21 21:55

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Steve Kemp: Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golang https://blog.steve.fi/writing_a_simple_tcl_interpreter_in_golang.html

Jun 21 21:56

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.steve.fi | Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golang

Jun 21 21:56

techrights-news

But "sustainability" is a meaningless buzzword https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252521657/Tech-sector-sustainability-efforts-need-full-ecosystem-approach

Jun 21 21:57

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Tech sector sustainability efforts need full ecosystem approach

Jun 21 21:57

MinceR

(video) (audio) https://obviousplant.tumblr.com/post/154086173658/introducing-sadness-box

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-obviousplant.tumblr.com | Obvious Plant — Introducing Sadness Box!

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"Software developers must be vigilant in regards to their use of hardware resources. Dedicated hardware is often expensive to buy, run, and maintain—and there’s only so much room in a data center for extra servers." https://containerjournal.com/features/5-best-practices-when-implementing-a-container-strategy/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | 5 Best Practices When Implementing a Container Strategy - Container Journal

schestowitz_TR

psydroid2: <techrights-news> Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/20/think-silicon-neox-risc-v-gpu-offer-3d-graphics-or-ai-acceleration/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Think Silicon NEOX RISC-V GPU offers 3D graphics or AI acceleration - CNX Software

schestowitz_TR

greek

psydroid2

I read about that earlier

schestowitz_TR

<techrights-news> RISC-V 3D GPU https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/15/2462749/0/en/Think-Silicon-to-Unveil-Industry-s-First-RISC-V-3D-GPU-at-Embedded-World-2022.html?s=09

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Think Silicon to Unveil Industry’s First RISC-V 3D GPU at

psydroid2

I think RISC-V is great for enabling innovation from more places than before

psydroid2

s/from/in/

MinceR

provided intel lets those places anywhere near RISC-V

techrights-news

SUSE's Web site compromised, controlled by SAP salespeople instead of SUSE engineers. https://www.suse.com/c/sap-hana-maintenance-suse-clusters/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Optimal SAP HANA handshake takeover in SUSE cluster

psydroid2

Intel doesn't have much of a say in this

MinceR

i thought they pushed their tentacles into RISC-V already

psydroid2

they are trying, but the "ecosystem" is vast and consists of many companies and academia

techrights-news

UK's Digital Strategy https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uks-digital-strategy making the digital data vanish, so... another 50,000 people die and nobody notices https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/20/abolishing-covid-transparency/

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK's Digital Strategy - GOV.UK

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Highest Number of COVID-19 Hospitalisations in Almost 2 Months, So Borisnaro is Rapidly Abolishing the Transparency

techrights-news

New Digital Strategy to make UK a global tech superpower https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-digital-strategy-to-make-uk-a-global-tech-superpower after Brexit it ain't gonna happen. We're run by a neanderthals regime, like pretty dump Patel and Borisnaro.

Jun 21 22:03

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Digital Strategy to make UK a global tech superpower - GOV.UK

Jun 21 22:03

schestowitz_TR

psydroid2: Intel just spenda a lot of money atm

Jun 21 22:04

schestowitz_TR

marketing, salaries to entice back key engineers who quit

Jun 21 22:04

schestowitz_TR

Intel is having a run for its life

Jun 21 22:04

schestowitz_TR

maybe Phoronix will publish another dozen pieces about CLEAR(LY GOING NOWHERE)Linux)

Jun 21 22:05

psydroid2

schestowitz_TR, I met a few they had put in charge of SiFive through Intel Capital investments, but Imagination and StarFive are examples of companies working on their own RISC-V silicon

schestowitz_TR

Apple dumped them

schestowitz_TR

after it had dumped ICBM

schestowitz_TR

the Hollerith company

psydroid2

Intel can't control all companies out there like they could do with x86 or Itanium and the other failed architectures

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-oneAPI-Blender-3.3-On

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Still Hoping To Have oneAPI/SYCL GPU Acceleration In Blender 3.3 - Phoronix

psydroid2

Phoronix is far too positive about AMD's achievements

schestowitz_TR

this is an article topic??

https://developer.blender.org/D15254

schestowitz_TR

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.blender.org | ⚙ D15254 Cycles: Add support for rendering on Intel GPUs using oneAPI

psydroid2

sure, they are winning big time in a financial sense

schestowitz_TR

wow

schestowitz_TR

from turning single file patches into article

schestowitz_TR

to turning bugf reports into some

psydroid2

but what is actually happening in the market

schestowitz_TR

>One API

schestowitz_TR

=Microsoft

schestowitz_TR

(GitHub)(

psydroid2

also Intel's discrete GPUs are only supposed to work with their own newer platforms

psydroid2

I've never heard of anything like this before

schestowitz_TR

been a month since michael did SINGLE JOB POST articles

schestowitz_TR

one job opening

schestowitz_TR

=one phoronix article

schestowitz_TR

the chip companies have mmillikons of vacancies

schestowitz_TR

<psydroid2> also Intel's discrete GPUs are only supposed to work with their own newer platforms

schestowitz_TR

but they can pull out of the market

schestowitz_TR

like atom and itanium

schestowitz_TR

never get proprietary

psydroid2

I don't think they will this time

schestowitz_TR

the promises are risky

schestowitz_TR

openmoko was like that

schestowitz_TR

get a phone

schestowitz_TR

and it goes nowhere

psydroid2

because they need GPUs to win HPC and HEY HI contracts

psydroid2

yeah, I didn't even know they tried

Jun 21 22:11

psydroid2

only after they had already got out of that market did I find out they had lost billions of dollars trying to compete

Jun 21 22:12

techrights-news

Phoronix cannot find material, so it starts turning BUG reports into ARTICLES.... or, as in here, Microsoft (Proprietary) GitHub tickets into articles https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-Mesh-Shaders-Details

Jun 21 22:12

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Mesh Shaders To Closely Mirror Direct3D 12 Capabilities - Phoronix

Jun 21 22:12

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Limine compiled in OpenEmbedded https://bkhome.org/news/202206/limine-compiled-in-openembedded.html

Jun 21 22:15

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Limine compiled in OpenEmbedded

Jun 21 22:15

techrights-news

"This is a tutorial to install Unity Desktop Environment on Ubuntu 22.04. This turns back Ubuntu to the previous default experience between the years 2011-2017. Let's turn back Unity!" http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/ubuntu-unity-jammy-jellyfish.html

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Ubuntu Unity Jammy Jellyfish

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MakuluLinux: What’s Next on our Agenda? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166299

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux: What’s Next on our Agenda? | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Thread safety support in libsoup3 | Carlos Garcia Campos ⚓ https://blogs.igalia.com/carlosgc/2022/06/21/thread-safety-support-in-libsoup3/ ䷉ Source: igalia

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Thread safety support in libsoup3 | Carlos Garcia Campos

https://64.media.tumblr.com/73947f42ab506ebc6a3c510bd4b01ca0/tumblr_oh5o5omL0x1u53c30o2_1280.jpg

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"When importing product inspections, a Linux-based system with NVIDIA® GPU runs inspection models for image analysis." https://www.automation.com/en-us/articles/june-2022/case-study-aoi-system-100x-data-transmission?listname=Automation & Control News & Articles

Jun 21 22:19

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.automation.com | Case Study: AOI System Through Workload Consolidation Brings 100X Data Transmission Enhancement

Jun 21 22:19

techrights-news

Operation Z. HP calls its Windows crap "Z"... entraps fake 'Ubuntu' inside Linux https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1773168/z-by-hp-powers-todays-professionals-to-create-without-limitation

Jun 21 22:21

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Z by HP Powers Today's Profess - GuruFocus.com

Jun 21 22:21

techrights-news

This is GNU, not Linux https://www.networkworld.com/article/3664077/counting-the-days-on-linux.html

Jun 21 22:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Counting the days on Linux | Network World

Jun 21 22:22

techrights-news

OPI Project aims to standardize DPUs and IPUs for industry adoption http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34092

Jun 21 22:28

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines

Jun 21 22:28

techrights-news

Linus Torvalds: After 30 years, Linux is not a dead project • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166300

Jun 21 22:29

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds: After 30 years, Linux is not a dead project | Tux Machines

Jun 21 22:29

MinceR

Jun 21 22:30

techrights-news

Linux Foundation does not earn coverage, it buys coverage

Jun 21 22:30

XRevan86

https://gajim.org/post/2022-06-21-gajim-1.4.5-released/

Jun 21 22:31

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gajim.org | Gajim 1.4.5 - Gajim

Jun 21 22:31

techrights-news

After many years and under the misleading, baseless, false guise of "fighting trolls" OIN is trying to normalise software patents with these patent pools https://thefintechtimes.com/rbc-joins-the-open-invention-network-to-protect-fintech-from-looming-threat-of-patent-trolls/

Jun 21 22:32

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thefintechtimes.com | RBC Joins the Open Invention Network To Protect Fintech From Looming Threat of Patent Trolls | The Fintech Times

Jun 21 22:32

techrights-news

Diploma mill riding the "Linux" brand https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/500-promising-individuals-worldwide-receive-linux-foundation-it-training--certification-scholarships-301572252.html

Jun 21 22:33

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | 500 Promising Individuals Worldwide Receive Linux Foundation IT Training & Certification Scholarships

Jun 21 22:33

AdmFubar

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/adobe-acrobat-may-block-antivirus-tools-from-monitoring-pdf-files/

Jun 21 22:34

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Adobe Acrobat may block antivirus tools from monitoring PDF files

techrights-news

Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166301

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

schestowitz_TR

AdmFubar: windows isue :-)

techrights-news

Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166302

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines

techrights-news

IBM/Red Hat and Fedora • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166303

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat and Fedora | Tux Machines

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Memfault Adds OTA Update for Embedded Linux - IoT For All ⚓ https://www.iotforall.com/press-releases/memfault-adds-ota-embedded-linux ䷉ Source: iotforall

Jun 21 22:42

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iotforall.com | Memfault Adds OTA Update for Embedded Linux - IoT For All

Jun 21 22:42

techrights-news

Today’s Linux Foundation and OIN Fluff • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166304

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today's Linux Foundation and OIN Fluff | Tux Machines

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Mozilla/Firefox Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166305

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla/Firefox Leftovers | Tux Machines

techrights-news

"What source code repository is ethical well it depends on how you define ethics and if you go by what the FSF and GNU have to say well basically nothing is except what they offer themselves." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JHIdRZTI74o

Jun 21 22:47

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | GitHub & GitLab Are Awful, What Does The FSF Suggest - Invidious

Jun 21 22:47

techrights-news

"In this backyard boomer vlog, I ramble on about how Linux has become a "normie" operating system. If you have used Linux for a few years (or more), then you have undoubtedly noticed that Linux has gotten so good that it's really...just another operating system." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eefkRwRJkzw

Jun 21 22:48

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Every Linux Distro Is Great! (Every Desktop Environment Too!) - Invidious

Jun 21 22:48

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Build Me Up BetterCAP • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166306

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Build Me Up BetterCAP | Tux Machines

techrights-news

Free Software Directory on IRC: Friday, June 24 starting at 12:00 p.m. EDT (14:00 UTC) https://www.fsf.org/events/free-software-directory-on-irc-friday-june-24-starting-at-12-00-p-m-edt-14-00-utc

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Directory on IRC: Friday, June 24 starting at 12:00 p.m. EDT (14:00 UTC) — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software

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Events: OpenUK, Free Software Directory, and Southern California Linux Expo • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166307

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Events: OpenUK, Free Software Directory, and Southern California Linux Expo | Tux Machines

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Videos: "Normies", GitHub & GitLab, Manjaro 21.3.0 Xfce Edition • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166308

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Jun 21 22:59

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Agnes Giberne's *The Story of the Sun, Moon, and Stars* (1898) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/story-of-sun-moon-stars/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview

Jun 21 23:00

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Agnes Giberne's *The Story of the Sun, Moon, and Stars* (1898) – The Public Domain Review

Jun 21 23:00

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Manjaro 21.3.0 Is Now Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34094

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Linux Around The World: USA - Montana http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165929#comment-34095

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This high-speed Arduino pen plotter creates drawings in mere minutes | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/21/this-high-speed-arduino-pen-plotter-creates-drawings-in-mere-minutes/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking

Jun 21 23:03

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Jun 21 23:03

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'Linux' Foundation for Microsoft proxies, spreading Microsoft's FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34096

Jun 21 23:05

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Jun 21 23:05

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Jim Zermlin will age fast if he carries on shining Microsoft's boots so hard

Jun 21 23:06

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'Linux' Foundation: the voice of Microsoft http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166295#comment-34097

Jun 21 23:07

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Jun 21 23:07

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Jun 21 23:12

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Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and RISC-V • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166311

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Devices: Memfault, AOI, amd SolidRun • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166312

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Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166313

Jun 21 23:14

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Jun 21 23:14

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Links 21/06/2022: Lots of Garbage From ’Linux’ Foundation | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/garbage-from-linux-foundation/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/garbage-from-linux-foundation/

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Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166314

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https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-think-my-hotfix-worked-but-it-crashes-again

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Jun 21 23:22

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecodinglove.com | When I think my hotfix worked but it crashes again | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes

Jun 21 23:22

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Todo lists in Vim, syntax highlighting gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/~johngodlee/posts/2022-06-20-todo.gmi

Jun 21 23:22

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K-punk haunts gemini 21-06-2022 gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/31-kpunk-haunts-gemini.gmi

Jun 21 23:23

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Jun 21 23:29

gorq

https://www.itpro.co.uk/operating-systems/microsoft-windows/368320/microsoft-reportedly-blocks-russian-windows-10-and-11

Jun 21 23:30

-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Microsoft reportedly blocks Russian Windows 10 and Windows 11 downloads | IT PRO

Jun 21 23:31

gorq

the ear of the linux desktop has finally arrived

Jun 21 23:31

XRevan86

Still occuring, don't particularly care.

Jun 21 23:33

MinceR

people in russia can download MICROS~1's and ibm's other OS, fedora, instead

Jun 21 23:41

gorq

fedora is linux desktop

Jun 21 23:49

MinceR

yeah

Jun 21 23:49

MinceR

systemd/Linux distribution

Jun 21 23:49

gorq

refhat is the mother of all linux desktop

MinceR

made from Linux (controlled by the Linux-Destroying Foundation, owned by corporations like MICROS~1 and ibm), systemd (controlled by ibm and based on MICROS~1 design principles), gnome (also controlled by ibm) and a few bits they're trying to throw away already

MinceR

ibm owns redhat

https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/37/2016/04/Tshirts-2-1024x647.jpg

MinceR