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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: why does the DOJ not go ahead and also arrest the mafia family and ringleader? | Aug 21 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | Barr knows they committed vastly bigger crimes | Aug 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There's something fishy going on here. The DoJ doesn't fart without a signed permission slip from Trump these days, since the purges. | Aug 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like I said, if they want these guys to go away on felonies, they have something on Trump. | Aug 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's taking care of it. He can probably say "Play ball and don't talk before the election, and I can arrange a pardon.". | Aug 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they might get out on bail, and they'll be able to move around without leaving the country. | Aug 21 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the trial will happen after November, and if they keep their goddamned mouths shut, who knows. | Aug 21 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Perhaps not. | Aug 21 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he's already distancing himself from them. | Aug 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The tweet saying he always thought We Build The Wall was a bad idea and intended to upstage him and make him look bad went out just minutes after the Acting US Attorney of the Southern District of New York's press release. | Aug 21 00:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The US Attorney's office is not great news for defendants, for a lot of reasons. | Aug 21 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The federal government has more resources to grind you into dust if you won't accept a plea bargain. | Aug 21 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, if you get convicted on state charges, you can work your way through two court systems and you have a better chance of convincing a judge somewhere along the way that your trial was fucked up. | Aug 21 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're busted on federal charges, then what the laws and constitution of your home state say don't matter. | Aug 21 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's harder to find a defect in the government's case with one system than with two. | Aug 21 00:20 |
| schestowitz | There's always money for lawyers | Aug 21 00:21 |
| schestowitz | not for SNAP | Aug 21 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | State judges can generally apply the US constitution to strike down a state law, but they generally don't like to do that. | Aug 21 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana tried a blanket ban on porn at one point, decades ago. | Aug 21 00:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | States grappled with their own attempts at outlawing "indecency" and by the 1970s, the US Supreme Court stepped in and created the "Miller Test". | Aug 21 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something that is indecent but not obscene is generally protected by the First Amendment. Something that is obscene isn't, however..... The test is three pronged and it has to be found obscene under all definitions, which is impossible. | Aug 21 00:23 |
| MinceR | would have been better and easier to just disallow banning anything on basis of "obscenity" | Aug 21 00:25 |
| schestowitz | obscenity is subjective | Aug 21 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It leaves enough room that courts can uphold laws that ban, for example, handing porn to a minor. | Aug 21 00:26 |
| schestowitz | some people find particular judges of "obscenity" to be obscene | Aug 21 00:26 |
| MinceR | they could have called it the "Nobody Cares If You're Offended" Rule | Aug 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When the charges in that Arizona case fell apart because the state failed to prove that the 16 year old intentionally downloaded the 6 CP images, they went after him for showing a Playboy magazine to his friends at school. | Aug 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then put him on the sex offender list for that. | Aug 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Prosecutors can always find something, even if something else falls apart. | Aug 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Say that one of these four idiots from We Build The Wall agrees to talk to investigators. | Aug 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Along the way, they say anything that is untrue. | Aug 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something happens in court and the government can't prove conspiracy. They'll just come back and hit them with making false statements. | Aug 21 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or, they could add making false statements to the original charges and give it to the jury as another charge to consider. | Aug 21 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You have to be very careful when you talk to a government official. | Aug 21 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I told the probation officer anything that was untrue, it's making false statements to a police officer. | Aug 21 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I kept that in mind when talking to her. | Aug 21 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "they could have called it the "N"> Oh that's just too easy. | Aug 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I always laughed about those people who are offended by every TV show. | Aug 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody is making them watch it. | Aug 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can ban it in their own house with the cable box. | Aug 21 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's like the episode of South Park where Rob Reiner comes to town with his anti-smoking campaign. | Aug 21 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cartman says "It's like smoking brings that man a little bit of joy in his day and you get to take that away from him. You're my hero!". | Aug 21 00:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 21 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These people trying to get Rick & Morty banned are doing it because they don't want other people to be allowed to watch it. | Aug 21 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But when that lady in Michigan complained to the FCC about Married with Children, their Nielson ratings went up over 40% when it got reported on the evening news. | Aug 21 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I don't think they're doing what they think they're doing. | Aug 21 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's free advertising for Rick & Morty and people will watch it because someone is trying to take it away from them. | Aug 21 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Instead of getting Al Bundy canceled, the lady in Michigan later admitted that she probably got them renewed for a few seasons that they may not have gotten. | Aug 21 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Al Bundy beat Cancel Culture in the 90s and I think Rick & Morty will just do the same thing. Maybe they'll even have Rick break the fourth wall to insult their critics, like Married with Children did to "some lady in Michigan" a couple of times. | Aug 21 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The lady in Michigan actually prompted the writers to come up with an episode where a TV company does a show based on the Bundys, but "It got canceled because some lady in Michigan complained about it.". That line went to Marcy. | Aug 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz | people want to see what other people do NOT want them to see | Aug 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz | it makes a sort of allure | Aug 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Marcy Darcy | Aug 21 00:38 |
| schestowitz | they used to joke she was like a "dude" | Aug 21 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah a chicken with no breasts. | Aug 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz | that would get canceled today | Aug 21 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Al came up with like 300 variations on that insult. | Aug 21 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Including telling her to cluck off. | Aug 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz | with boycotts and burning tyres | Aug 21 00:39 |
| schestowitz | well, that's Fox... now they have their own sex scandals | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | The Official Ubuntu Blog is again boosting Microsoft attack on GNU/Linux. Again and again. | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-on-wsl-2-backported-to-windows-10-1909-extending-reach | Aug 21 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu on WSL 2 Backported to Windows 10 1903 and 1909, Extending Reach | Ubuntu | Aug 21 00:40 | |
| schestowitz | OSI GM has resigned | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing collapses | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | as they intended | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | they infiltrated everything | Aug 21 00:40 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat Gives Award to Microsoft | Aug 21 00:41 |
| schestowitz | Canonical promotes Windows in its Ubuntu blog | Aug 21 00:41 |
| schestowitz | now phoronix | Aug 21 00:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Windows-10-WSL2-Backport | Aug 21 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Is Backporting WSL2 To Their Windows 10 2019 Releases - Phoronix | Aug 21 00:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Remember Bug #1. | Aug 21 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | https://joindiaspora.com/p/18824763 – how the comment and the source material drastically differ | Aug 21 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Massive mistake by #mozilla was canning all the extension and screw... | Aug 21 00:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Microsoft has a majority market share." | Aug 21 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: When I went to visit the We Build The Wall site, it downloaded over 30 MB to show their page. | Aug 21 00:45 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Flashy website meant to wow people, and many of the before and after pictures aren't even of the same area. | Aug 21 00:54 |
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| MinceR | 21 014428 < DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Remember Bug #1. | Aug 21 00:57 |
| MinceR | canonical doesn't | Aug 21 00:57 |
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| schestowitz | [00:44] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Remember Bug #1. | Aug 21 01:10 |
| schestowitz | I keep saying that any time they boost WSL | Aug 21 01:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I will write about this in an hour or so | Aug 21 01:10 |
| schestowitz | other shitty news | Aug 21 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | I will connect those things | Aug 21 01:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe you'll still be awake and can check over it with me... | Aug 21 01:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Someone uploaded the director's cut of Hollow Man. | Aug 21 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no saving that movie. That was one of the movies in Sony's fake review scandal. | Aug 21 01:16 |
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| schestowitz | the world is full of fakes, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | rule of thumb: you are constantly surrounded by posers | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | professionally and outside work, too | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | your sister in law is one example | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | the astroturfing online is too | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | I think that, in general, we're quite genuine and modest here | Aug 21 01:18 |
| schestowitz | now compare that to corporates | Aug 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz | and oligarchs | Aug 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz | bill gates showmanship backfires now | Aug 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz | most people of his class keep a low profile | Aug 21 01:19 |
| schestowitz | and they have reasons to | Aug 21 01:19 |
| kingoffrance | never assume ppl have any idea what they are doing | Aug 21 01:20 |
| schestowitz | "give me more debt... I mean, credit" | Aug 21 01:20 |
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| schestowitz | kingoffrance: Jim Zemlin has run "Linux" Foundation for 13 years | Aug 21 01:26 |
| schestowitz | he does not use Linux :D | Aug 21 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-police-ban-protests-near-mayor-lightfoots-home/ | Aug 21 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Chicago police ban protests near Mayor Lightfoot’s home, sparking First Amendment debate | WGN-TV | Aug 21 01:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | “I make no apologies whatsoever for that. We are living in a very different time. I have seen the threats that have come in. I have an obligation to keep my home, my wife, my 12-year-old, and my neighbors safe,” Lightfoot said. | Aug 21 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So does everyone, and it's nice that the cops are barricading her house off and have her under 24 hour protection when most people in Chicago live where the police might show up to a murder scen e an hour later and cannot buy a gun. | Aug 21 01:33 |
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| schestowitz | excuses and justifications are brought up to make exceptions for laws and constitutions, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 21 01:37 |
| schestowitz | even droning citizens | Aug 21 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I see lots of this at the EPO | Aug 21 01:41 |
| schestowitz | it's like rule by decree | Aug 21 01:41 |
| schestowitz | one person does anything he or she wants based on "taste" or "goal" | Aug 21 01:41 |
| schestowitz | the written rules cease to matter | Aug 21 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/20/kanye-west-campaign-wisconsin-399672 | Aug 21 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘When you’re late, you're late’: Kanye falls short in Wisconsin - POLITICO | Aug 21 01:42 | |
| schestowitz | you just need to invoke "emergency" | Aug 21 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Republicans are trying to get Kanye West on the ballot to sabotage Biden. | Aug 21 01:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: he's a troll | Aug 21 01:42 |
| schestowitz | let's focus on real issue | Aug 21 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he was 14 seconds late in filing. | Aug 21 01:42 |
| schestowitz | not trolls as "news" | Aug 21 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They figure some people will vote for Kanye West because he's black. | Aug 21 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A few thousand could be enough to swing the state to Trump. | Aug 21 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, he won't be on the ballot there because he missed the deadline by 14 seconds. That was really funny. | Aug 21 01:43 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: GOP loves black people... as enablers of white supremacist | Aug 21 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trevor Noah made fun of that. | Aug 21 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Why can't that work for other things? Sorry Officer, this driver's license was valid a month ago. Close enough, right?". | Aug 21 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/assault-rifles-and-armored-trucks-illinois-police-agencies-have-obtained-47-million-in-military-gear-since-trump-lifted-restrictions-on-a-federal-surplus-program/ar-BB18c4GK | Aug 21 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Assault rifles and armored trucks: Illinois police agencies have obtained $4.7 million in military gear since Trump lifted restrictions on a federal surplus program | Aug 21 01:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, guns are dangerous, except when you turn the police into a military. | Aug 21 01:47 |
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| schestowitz | many in the police came from the military | Aug 21 01:52 |
| schestowitz | so in effect you tell them, "get guys, the people you serve and protect are now enemy combatant, shoot at will, here are some rubber ones" | Aug 21 01:52 |
| schestowitz | "hey guys, the people you 'serve and protect' are now enemy combatants, shoot at will, here are some rubber ones" | Aug 21 01:53 |
| schestowitz | some typos amended | Aug 21 01:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's really disgusting how people like my parents put these jack booted thugs on the street and in the middle of the most gut wrenching recession now we have cops with machine guns killing people and nobody does anything of course. | Aug 21 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even gave them military costumes to walk around in. While the government they voted for (Trump) destroys our economy, our freedom, and even cost 200,000+ Americans their age (so far) their lives. | Aug 21 01:55 |
| schestowitz | yup | Aug 21 01:57 |
| schestowitz | land of the free | Aug 21 01:57 |
| schestowitz | free to vote... in person... for Trump | Aug 21 01:57 |
| schestowitz | "more sir, please, keep on going" | Aug 21 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, 200,000 isn't really enough of them out of the way to ensure that Trump goes bye bye, but it's a mild positive benefit that they won't be voting anymore. You can say that's cruel if you want. I'm not glad they're dead, but I'm glad they won't be voting anymore. Less chance of another fuck up because mom and dad's confederates are going away. | Aug 21 01:57 |
| schestowitz | "yes, officer, i will spread" | Aug 21 01:57 |
| schestowitz | Assange's mom keeps direct-messaging me | Aug 21 01:58 |
| schestowitz | they're desperate for public support | Aug 21 01:58 |
| schestowitz | US wants him dead | Aug 21 01:59 |
| schestowitz | one way or another | Aug 21 01:59 |
| schestowitz | he might die in prison soon | Aug 21 01:59 |
| schestowitz | has health issues | Aug 21 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Assange deserves whatever he gets, honestly. He puffed up the "Hillary Clinton email nothingburger" that my delusional parents think is somehow worse than perhaps a million dead Americans from Trump's "biggest in the world" Coronavirus disaster. | Aug 21 02:00 |
| schestowitz | he did want revenge on HRC | Aug 21 02:01 |
| schestowitz | and to be fair, he didn't have any ammo on Trump at that point | Aug 21 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Really, I don't even know how my dad stayed at Thomson for so long. The Chinese are obviously a lot smarter and more willing to play the long game than my parents ever could be. | Aug 21 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why the Chinese are running roughshod over America now, while my parents put in this assclown. | Aug 21 02:02 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 21 02:02 |
| schestowitz | well, both have an autocrat | Aug 21 02:02 |
| schestowitz | but the life quality evens out, sort of... | Aug 21 02:02 |
| schestowitz | the quality of >average< American's life isn't what it was in the 1990s | Aug 21 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My dad is a wannabe Ernst Rohm in KMart jeans. | Aug 21 02:03 |
| schestowitz | from what I can gather, those who relished on "middle class" with some debt are no longer doing well | Aug 21 02:03 |
| schestowitz | can barely pay off their college days' loans | Aug 21 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He sent me a letter saying he was praying for me. | Aug 21 02:03 |
| schestowitz | praying for what? | Aug 21 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wanted to snark at him, "Oh, who do the Scientologists pray to?". | Aug 21 02:04 |
| schestowitz | Proctoglogist | Aug 21 02:04 |
| schestowitz | because they're full of shite | Aug 21 02:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: that's emotional blackmail | Aug 21 02:05 |
| schestowitz | when you pray for someone who isn't ill and never asked for it | Aug 21 02:05 |
| schestowitz | "thanks for praying, thanks for playing" | Aug 21 02:05 |
| schestowitz | "now quit talking to yourself, it ain't making a difference" | Aug 21 02:05 |
| *schestowitz prays for MinceR | Aug 21 02:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I give up. There is OBVIOUSLY nobody that is answering prayer. Look what's going on. These people say, "Oh God blessed us with Trump!". Yeah, a demented adulterer who files bankruptcy 6 times and works with the mafia and Russian money launderers. He blessed us with the Coronavirus. Lots and lots of the Coronavirus. | Aug 21 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | OMFG THESE IDIOTS | Aug 21 02:07 |
| schestowitz | another 1000+ covid19 deaths for the day, even with reduced testing and defunct cdc | Aug 21 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How could you look at what Trump has done in this country and conclude that we're in good shape and that a loving God exists and did it to us? | Aug 21 02:07 |
| schestowitz | chief and deputy stepped down | Aug 21 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's beyond retarded. | Aug 21 02:07 |
| schestowitz | yes, well | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | butter emails | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | obama is a muslim | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | that kenyan! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | but rice! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | and holder! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | blm... terrorists! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | mulsim brotherhood | Aug 21 02:08 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: thoughts and prayers! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | the libs! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no! | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | Just prayers | Aug 21 02:08 |
| schestowitz | stfu | Aug 21 02:09 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Aug 21 02:09 |
| MinceR | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwgdD-tX4AEE4np.jpg | Aug 21 02:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: thoughts require thinking | Aug 21 02:09 |
| schestowitz | prayer does not | Aug 21 02:09 |
| MinceR | _saying_ some bullshit about thoughts, on the other hand, does not :> | Aug 21 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I know why my mom believes in this crap suddenly. It's terrifying in a way, you know. When the walls close in on you and you realize you're getting older and nobody is around to help. People are always asking me why I plan for what to do when shit falls over. It's because shit falls over. Everyone around you is a fucking backstabber, and you need to get used to it and plan for it. | Aug 21 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Divine intervention is....unlikely. | Aug 21 02:10 |
| MinceR | https://pics.me.me/give-yourselethe-most-useless-superheroabillty-thoughts-and-prayers-man-43780427.png | Aug 21 02:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: is your brother doing ok? | Aug 21 02:11 |
| schestowitz | the young one, maybe the mom is losing hope altogether | Aug 21 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's fatiguing, you know, when behind every disaster is another fucking disaster. Nothing half this bad would have happened if the US didn't have such failed, garbage, wretched leadership. | Aug 21 02:11 |
| schestowitz | what was the last good leadership? | Aug 21 02:12 |
| schestowitz | look at national debt | Aug 21 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it's going to have to play out now. Hopefully, my parents aren't so committed to Trump's lies and bullshit that they run around with their masks off licking doorknobs like the rest of the Republicans. | Aug 21 02:12 |
| schestowitz | the oil wars in the middle east lost the US karma (intl public opinion) and fiscal control | Aug 21 02:12 |
| schestowitz | 700k covid tests in US in past day | Aug 21 02:13 |
| schestowitz | 44k positive | Aug 21 02:13 |
| schestowitz | so... about 7%? | Aug 21 02:13 |
| schestowitz | wish there was a graph for tests per day... there must be one, somewhere.. | Aug 21 02:14 |
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| schestowitz | only 45 reported dead with covid in hawaii | Aug 21 02:14 |
| schestowitz | it's like adults are in charge | Aug 21 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, they are literally on an island where they can ban travelers and contain outbreaks and don't have to deal with idiot Republicans bringing more of it to their state if they get it under control. Also, not too many black people throwing house parties like in Chicago. | Aug 21 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Areas with lots of Republicans and/or black people are getting whacked harder by this because they don't have the goddamned IQ of a turnip to share between them. | Aug 21 02:17 |
| schestowitz | alaska 29 dead | Aug 21 02:17 |
| schestowitz | they live far apart | Aug 21 02:17 |
| schestowitz | oh, 700,000 residents | Aug 21 02:17 |
| schestowitz | I thought even less | Aug 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | 427,379 tests for 731,545 | Aug 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | well done | Aug 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | most people were tested | Aug 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | only 82 new cases | Aug 21 02:18 |
| schestowitz | sorry, 31k tests | Aug 21 02:19 |
| schestowitz | so 427,379 tests per million | Aug 21 02:19 |
| schestowitz | *312k | Aug 21 02:19 |
| schestowitz | https://i.imgflip.com/4997ub.png | Aug 21 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Conservatives be all like "I don't get it. He didn't even take office before we started making false accusations of Socialism and calling him Barack the Magic N****r. What could possibly have set race relations back so far? Why can't the stupid blacks just understand that Trump is trying to help them and us by causing the most job losses on record?" | Aug 21 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump has actually made things shittier in America, will be the SECOND the last of the unemployment runs out, than they have ever been in Venezuela. | Aug 21 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, some states aren't even taking the money. It's not because they don't want it. It's because as soon as a court declares Trump's scheme illegal, they don't want to have to pay it back. Tax revenues are looking pretty bad right now and everyone is trying to make things someone else's problem. | Aug 21 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Bannon was arraigned and pled Not Guilty. | Aug 21 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He and Kolfage better butter up their cornholes because they're going to motherfucking prison. | Aug 21 02:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kolfage won't be able to run very far. Bannon at least has a chance at not squealing like a pig. | Aug 21 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | it is nice to know that if you wait around long enough, bad things really can happen to bad people. | Aug 21 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing to say that one or both of them won't try to sell the other one out to the prosecutor to get the best deal. You know how criminals are. | Aug 21 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "so 427,379 tests per million"> Yeah, Indiana is at about 177,000 per million, so they have absolutely no idea what's really going on, and the Republicans spent so many years making healthcare unaffordable there that most people make the hospital the last place they go. Even mom filed bankruptcy to get away from them as she rants and raves about how great this is. | Aug 21 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't file bankruptcy primarily to get away from medical debt. If that had been all that happened to me last year, I would have paid it. | Aug 21 02:49 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: and you said black people don't have the IQ of a turnip | Aug 21 02:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was satisfying to include Village of Fox Lake in my bankruptcy and throw in an ambulance ride that was higher than my fine. | Aug 21 02:49 |
| CrystalMath | i think that you're a racist, but above all, very exclusionary person | Aug 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "DaemonFC: and you said black peo"> No, what I actually said was you don't even get that if you put them and the Republicans together. | Aug 21 02:50 |
| CrystalMath | well that's still bad | Aug 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats at least think they mean well even though they're very racist. | Aug 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then when they have a bunch of homeless black people in their neighborhood they start freaking out and demanding the Mayor's head. | Aug 21 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Telling her they're too afraid to go out after 6 PM. | Aug 21 02:51 |
| CrystalMath | well that's true | Aug 21 02:51 |
| CrystalMath | about democrats | Aug 21 02:51 |
| CrystalMath | but i think republicans, with an individualistic view (especially the libertarians there) | Aug 21 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm a Democrat only in the sense that there's one party that's smart enough to stay away from the virus and wear a face mask and another party that's basically licking doorknobs. | Aug 21 02:51 |
| CrystalMath | are better | Aug 21 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you have to be pretty fucking stupid to be a Republican. | Aug 21 02:52 |
| CrystalMath | the individualistic view doesn't look at your skin color | Aug 21 02:52 |
| CrystalMath | it looks at the results | Aug 21 02:52 |
| CrystalMath | meritocracy, you see? | Aug 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m] conflates poverty with blackness | Aug 21 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What Lightfoot has going on in Chicago right now is exactly the same shit that put Rudy Guiliani in the mayor's office in New York City. | Aug 21 02:52 |
| schestowitz | even where stats show that infection rates are highest not among blacks | Aug 21 02:53 |
| schestowitz | and they're living in more congested conditions, not by choice... | Aug 21 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The infection rate among black people in Lake County, IL is roughly 4x higher per capita than in whites. | Aug 21 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They do not do anything to protect themselves from it. | Aug 21 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The way they are acting in the middle of this is gross as all hell. | Aug 21 02:54 |
| CrystalMath | maybe they'd prefer to let 2% of them die | Aug 21 02:54 |
| CrystalMath | like if i gave you a box of 50 skittles, and told you 1 will surely kill you | Aug 21 02:54 |
| CrystalMath | would you take exactly one from the box? | Aug 21 02:54 |
| CrystalMath | i think that i would | Aug 21 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom asked me the other day "What do you call people who murder the elderly and infirm because they're a burden on the state?". I said, "Well, the Nazis did that.". | Aug 21 02:55 |
| CrystalMath | i don't think the virus has a reason | Aug 21 02:55 |
| CrystalMath | the virus just messes up | Aug 21 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She goes, "What's the name for it?". "I said, well, generally, euthanasia, but when the Nazis did it, they didn't ask first and then respect the person's wishes, you know.". | Aug 21 02:55 |
| CrystalMath | the virus isn't a nazi | Aug 21 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then we still have a situation where they don't treat mental health issues as debilitating enough to want to end your life. | Aug 21 02:56 |
| CrystalMath | also, plenty of old people survive | Aug 21 02:56 |
| CrystalMath | and yet | Aug 21 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of odd if you ask me. People with bipolar are like 10 times more likely to kill themselves. Maybe they don't want to live. | Aug 21 02:56 |
| CrystalMath | 40yos sometimes die | Aug 21 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I plod along somehow. | Aug 21 02:56 |
| CrystalMath | i have bpd | Aug 21 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think there should just be centers where people who want to die are allowed to. | Aug 21 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | sometimes i really hate myself | Aug 21 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd probably have done it already, honestly, at some points in my life. | Aug 21 02:57 |
| schestowitz | but you changed your mind | Aug 21 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Keeping people alive against their wishes is a form of torture. The Christians don't see it that way. There's a commission they set up to see if they can get people to stop throwing themselves in front of Metra trains. | Aug 21 02:58 |
| schestowitz | and this is why those things are not made available | Aug 21 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got yeah, let them get an overdose of pain meds and go quietly and there will be less Metra suicides. | Aug 21 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | what about hanging on a doorknob? | Aug 21 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | everyone can do that | Aug 21 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing you people worry about, obviously is if the train will be 4 hours late to your job. This solves both problems, right? | Aug 21 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | Epstein did it despite all odds | Aug 21 03:00 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Aug 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz | LOL, HN has not "FLAGGED" the article to techrights | Aug 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz | and does not even specify why | Aug 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz | nothing at all | Aug 21 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | HN? | Aug 21 03:00 |
| schestowitz | so IBM petition about the employer | Aug 21 03:01 |
| schestowitz | is "flagged" | Aug 21 03:01 |
| schestowitz | HackerNews | Aug 21 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh. | Aug 21 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy who rented me a parking spot in Chicago had a really weird email. | Aug 21 03:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | overdoz | Aug 21 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 21 03:03 |
| CrystalMath | is everyone ignoring me here? | Aug 21 03:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux in Devices/Embedded http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141192 [https://pleroma.site/objects/da05e311-13a4-46f4-97fa-dccc99d26c8a] | Aug 21 03:07 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | > is everyone ignoring me here? | Aug 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No | Aug 21 03:08 |
| schestowitz | no. | Aug 21 03:09 |
| CrystalMath | oh | Aug 21 03:09 |
| CrystalMath | sorry | Aug 21 03:09 |
| schestowitz | many lurk | Aug 21 03:09 |
| CrystalMath | i broke a bone and i'm trying to distract myself | Aug 21 03:09 |
| CrystalMath | from the pain | Aug 21 03:10 |
| schestowitz | which bone? | Aug 21 03:12 |
| schestowitz | I think you can get painkillers for it, from a medic | Aug 21 03:12 |
| CrystalMath | fractured plantar bone on the foot | Aug 21 03:13 |
| CrystalMath | i suppose i could take some | Aug 21 03:14 |
| schestowitz | I hurt my leg yesterday for no apparently reason | Aug 21 03:16 |
| schestowitz | muscle cramp | Aug 21 03:16 |
| schestowitz | but it's gone today, I forgot all about it since you mentioned the above | Aug 21 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I picked up Mandy. Cooking dinner. | Aug 21 03:16 |
| schestowitz | back pains are likely worst | Aug 21 03:16 |
| schestowitz | as you cannot stop using the spine unless you lie down, and then you can do just about nothing | Aug 21 03:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: cook his phone | Aug 21 03:17 |
| schestowitz | waste of money | Aug 21 03:17 |
| schestowitz | money down the toilet, aja tondo river | Aug 21 03:17 |
| schestowitz | *aka | Aug 21 03:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll get started with some articles now... | Aug 21 03:18 |
| schestowitz | rss feeds clean... | Aug 21 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He has high standards for coming from Tondo. | Aug 21 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He gets after me for going in the sink sometimes. | Aug 21 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not fancy. | Aug 21 03:28 |
| *psymin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 21 03:30 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: almost ready, the article | Aug 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | it's short and still sort of punctual | Aug 21 03:47 |
| schestowitz | are you about? | Aug 21 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. THe pressure cooker will take about 20 minutes. | Aug 21 03:55 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/power-handovers/ | Aug 21 03:55 |
| schestowitz | this is very short | Aug 21 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI’s Chief Steps Down, Canonical Advertises Windows Again, and Red Hat Gives Award to Microsoft | Techrights | Aug 21 03:55 | |
| schestowitz | but visual | Aug 21 03:55 |
| schestowitz | concise with links | Aug 21 03:55 |
| schestowitz | *they've | Aug 21 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/business/american-airlines-domestic-route-drop/index.html | Aug 21 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-American Airlines dropping service to 15 cities. This is likely only the beginning - CNN | Aug 21 04:01 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: did you read it? | Aug 21 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's ridiculous that the capital of Illinois is not Chicago. | Aug 21 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, will do now. | Aug 21 04:01 |
| schestowitz | less air travel = good | Aug 21 04:02 |
| schestowitz | money swapping hands just to burn TONS of fossils fuel per passenger may be good for "the economy" but very harmful to everything else | Aug 21 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "collapses as a desirable end." | Aug 21 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | collapsing is a desirable end | Aug 21 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "OSI’s President, Josh Simmons, who" | Aug 21 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John Simmons. He | Aug 21 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Turns it into two sentences to deal with the run-on. | Aug 21 04:05 |
| schestowitz | ok | Aug 21 04:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe mention Matt Asay's tenure at Canonical and how he tried to stuff it with Mono. | Aug 21 04:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What else did he do? | Aug 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: OPEN SOURCE has WON -- Microsoft (means, "we won", "GitHub won", "free software died") | Aug 21 04:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Didn't they make Banshee the default media player in Ubuntu for a while? | Aug 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: no connection to mono | Aug 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | maybe another Microsoft hire of Canonical | Aug 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | their desktop manager | Aug 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | Spencer | Aug 21 04:09 |
| schestowitz | Richard IIRC | Aug 21 04:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like how there was a Mono community. Such a great community that all of the Mono desktop software suddenly stopped being developed when Novell went under. | Aug 21 04:09 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSI’s Chief Steps Down, Canonical Advertises Windows Again, and Red Hat Gives Award to Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/power-handovers/ “OPEN SOURCE has WON” — Microsoft (means, “we won”, “GitHub won”, “free software died”) [https://pleroma.site/objects/1523cf28-87dd-419e-862f-adbaf8c72975] | Aug 21 04:10 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody willing to point out that those attacks saying that was anti-Mono FUD were part of the fake community that disappeared the minute Novell did. | Aug 21 04:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now we're back to the same shit from different assholes with WSL and friends. | Aug 21 04:10 |
| schestowitz | Github = mono team | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | Friedman | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | similar people | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | ximian and guthrie | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | novell and guthrie | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | xamarin and guthrie | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | it's the same routine | Aug 21 04:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no real good use for WSL. If anything, virtualizing Windows on Linux for legacy reasons would be more interesting. | Aug 21 04:11 |
| schestowitz | they pump billions into this attack | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | 150k people used wsl2 at one point | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | according to Ariadne | Aug 21 04:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People don't seem to be going to Windows, and it's not technically capable of running high demand stuff like Linux is. So why would people move to it as the Host? | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | who was able to extrapolate | Aug 21 04:12 |
| Ariadne | it is probably up to 250k by now. | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | still low | Aug 21 04:12 |
| Ariadne | i haven't looked at the numbers lately. | Aug 21 04:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 250,000 in the entire world. | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | they refuse to even talk about it | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Aug 21 04:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wow. | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | it was 150k | Aug 21 04:12 |
| schestowitz | months ago | Aug 21 04:13 |
| Ariadne | i think it is actually unfortunate that mono died | Aug 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz | it's not dead | Aug 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz | in linux it might be | Aug 21 04:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still a game I use it for. | Aug 21 04:13 |
| Ariadne | i mean for writing FOSS desktop applications | Aug 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz | as many distros don't bother much with pinta, tomboy etc. | Aug 21 04:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A replacement for the Command & Conquer and Dune 2000 engines for the late 90s/early 2000s games. | Aug 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz | it brings in with it a raft of .dll hell | Aug 21 04:13 |
| Ariadne | despite .NET originating from Microsoft, managed code does improve programmer productivity | Aug 21 04:13 |
| schestowitz | vala is still there | Aug 21 04:14 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: shared linking in general is DLL hell. package managers just do a decent job of cleaning up the mess. | Aug 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | quite active | Aug 21 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Except that it doesn't even work predictably on Windows itself. | Aug 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | blog posts several times from vala devs this year | Aug 21 04:14 |
| Ariadne | anyway, i suspect most people wanting the benefits of managed code will just use rust instead. | Aug 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | rust needs to quit github sooner or later | Aug 21 04:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tried using CDBurnerXP on a 64-bit XP and it had a crash and the developer told me that he didn't have a 64-bit Window system to check it on at the time. | Aug 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | as important as their foundation | Aug 21 04:14 |
| Ariadne | but .NET did help to shift the thinking amongst developers | Aug 21 04:14 |
| schestowitz | to become independent from micrsooft and that proprietary dev platform | Aug 21 04:15 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: the problem is, they will just go from github to another proprietary forge | Aug 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | so you don't need to be a Microsoft serf just to offer a bug report, commit etc. | Aug 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: that would be their own shot in the foot | Aug 21 04:15 |
| Ariadne | the problem with mega-forges isn't microsoft's ownership, as much as it is that it is a mega-forge to begin with | Aug 21 04:15 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Aug 21 04:16 |
| Ariadne | microsoft owning it just means it will randomly close one day when microsoft gets bored | Aug 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz | but Microsoft makes it worse | Aug 21 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sourceforge done fucked up with those sleazy malware installers. | Aug 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz | because of its own motivations | Aug 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz | and its track record | Aug 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz | esp. if you're a gnu/linux or bsd proponent | Aug 21 04:16 |
| Ariadne | sourceforge fucked up well before the malware installers | Aug 21 04:16 |
| Ariadne | megaforges are bad anyway. need to focus on self-hosted git and federated issue tracking. | Aug 21 04:16 |
| schestowitz | it's a high learning curve | Aug 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz | more expensive | Aug 21 04:17 |
| Ariadne | yes, fixing that is part of what needs to be done | Aug 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz | but that's the package that comes with real ownership and control | Aug 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz | you can also rent an apartment for 50 years | Aug 21 04:17 |
| Ariadne | if you can go rent a linode for $10/month and run gitlab and have it federate with other gitlabs | Aug 21 04:17 |
| schestowitz | blow a million bucks or two | Aug 21 04:17 |
| Ariadne | i think a lot of people would do that | Aug 21 04:18 |
| Ariadne | over using github | Aug 21 04:18 |
| schestowitz | fsf is doing a gitlab-derived platform | Aug 21 04:18 |
| schestowitz | to improve or replace savannah | Aug 21 04:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe then the new board member and the pres can migrate to it | Aug 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz | and off github | Aug 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz | would be good marketing for the new platform | Aug 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz | and they can start a "leave github" campaign or something | Aug 21 04:19 |
| schestowitz | (I'm dreaming) | Aug 21 04:19 |
| Ariadne | FSF is doing something other than poorly designed marketing campaigns only intended to impress one person (RMS)? | Aug 21 04:20 |
| Ariadne | maybe they listened to what i had to say after all. | Aug 21 04:20 |
| Ariadne | that's true by the way, crap like BadVista campaign (which did not advance free software at all) was implemented to impress RMS | Aug 21 04:20 |
| schestowitz | I know many of them read techrights | Aug 21 04:20 |
| schestowitz | BadVista was OK | Aug 21 04:21 |
| Ariadne | free software has to be culturally driven. forcing people to comply through shaming and aggressive use of copyleft will only make people prefer "open source." | Aug 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz | Vista7 Sins | Aug 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz | I'm for it | Aug 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz | we need to highlight the bad things about the rivall | Aug 21 04:21 |
| schestowitz | otherwise people might not 'get' the point of FreeSW | Aug 21 04:22 |
| Ariadne | yes, but making it the centerpiece in the showcase is not a winning strategy | Aug 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | "open source" is just "open WASH" now | Aug 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | even Mako-Hill said we should distance ourselves from it | Aug 21 04:22 |
| Ariadne | you can say "windows sucks" all day, but if you don't showcase what is better, normal people won't care | Aug 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | it was nowhere as bad a decade back | Aug 21 04:22 |
| schestowitz | FSF is reactionary | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | RMS started GNU as reaction | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | to proproetary | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Xerox | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | so it's perfectly OK to say, "look, there's this problem" | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | "it's this bad" | Aug 21 04:23 |
| schestowitz | and this is why we need alternatives | Aug 21 04:23 |
| Ariadne | yes, i don't disagree | Aug 21 04:23 |
| Ariadne | but you have to do more than that | Aug 21 04:24 |
| Ariadne | and FSF did not | Aug 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | that's how some twitter and fb alts, inc. pleroma, grow feet | Aug 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | you can't break network effects otherwise | Aug 21 04:24 |
| Ariadne | my point is that the FSF instead of showing actual work in cultivating a new generation of free software leadership, just did BadVista and Vista7 Sins and other flawed marketing campaigns. | Aug 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | FSF did its thing... not my thing | Aug 21 04:24 |
| Ariadne | what i told FSF is that they need to focus on the future, not the past. | Aug 21 04:24 |
| schestowitz | the future looks bad | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | as their Zoom video shows | Aug 21 04:25 |
| Ariadne | the future can look better if we do the work to make it happen | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | systopian | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | *d | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | and it is negative marketing too | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | without naming the culprits | Aug 21 04:25 |
| schestowitz | brb coffee | Aug 21 04:26 |
| Ariadne | you cannot have a functional enterprise if all operations are solely designed to impress the director. | Aug 21 04:27 |
| Ariadne | if the FSF starts doing real things as a result of RMS's departure, then at least they are now trying to be functional again | Aug 21 04:28 |
| Ariadne | the FSF should be jumping in calling out the Qt company for threatening to take Qt proprietary, for example. | Aug 21 04:28 |
| Ariadne | and organizing a fork. | Aug 21 04:29 |
| Ariadne | that's what an FSF run by me would be doing. | Aug 21 04:29 |
| Ariadne | it is great to say there are problems, but we need to solve problems too. | Aug 21 04:29 |
| schestowitz | > at least they are now trying to be functional again | Aug 21 04:30 |
| schestowitz | again? | Aug 21 04:30 |
| schestowitz | he founded fsf | Aug 21 04:30 |
| schestowitz | [04:28] <Ariadne> the FSF should be jumping in calling out the Qt company for threatening to take Qt proprietary, for example. | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | kde gently responded to that effect | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | they debated it | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | then qt (lars iirc) responded | Aug 21 04:31 |
| Ariadne | yes, but the FSF should be getting involved in these things. | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | so qt knows there's a risk | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: if necessary | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | gtk is gnu | Aug 21 04:31 |
| schestowitz | gnome sucks though | Aug 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | ibm has a lot of control over it now | Aug 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | red hat | Aug 21 04:32 |
| Ariadne | and sure, RMS founded FSF. but when the employees are only doing work to get praise from RMS, it is a serious problem. | Aug 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | btw, i am NOT anti-ibm | Aug 21 04:32 |
| Ariadne | i'm IBM-confused | Aug 21 04:32 |
| schestowitz | I am strongly against distorting the past and reality | Aug 21 04:32 |
| Ariadne | they buy redhat, but now they are going hard on alpine again, with some redhat people reassigned to work on it even. | Aug 21 04:32 |
| Ariadne | why would you spend billions on redhat just to trash it | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | oh | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | well... | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | krishna | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | I heard it was at least partly his idea | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | he was already at the board | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | he seems like a decent guy | Aug 21 04:33 |
| schestowitz | but let's see if they stop the swpats BS | Aug 21 04:33 |
| Ariadne | basically, what i mean is that the FSF should act as the conscience of the free software movement | Aug 21 04:34 |
| Ariadne | the shepherd, if you will | Aug 21 04:34 |
| schestowitz | too inactive | Aug 21 04:34 |
| schestowitz | not much messaging | Aug 21 04:34 |
| Ariadne | yes, so fix it :) | Aug 21 04:34 |
| schestowitz | one blog post yesterday | Aug 21 04:34 |
| schestowitz | cfp | Aug 21 04:35 |
| schestowitz | libreplanet | Aug 21 04:35 |
| Ariadne | make an FSF RMS would be proud of :) | Aug 21 04:35 |
| schestowitz | or... federate | Aug 21 04:35 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Free_Software_Federation_HOWTO | Aug 21 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Federation HOWTO - Techrights | Aug 21 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Free_Software_Federation | Aug 21 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Federation - Techrights | Aug 21 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | we need to have no single point of failure | Aug 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz | like we have distros | Aug 21 04:36 |
| schestowitz | makes us more invulnerable | Aug 21 04:36 |
| Ariadne | i agree in the long run, but | Aug 21 04:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're running movie ads again. | Aug 21 04:41 |
| schestowitz | I will do a quick post about FSF next | Aug 21 04:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what's a movie? | Aug 21 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: I will commend them | Aug 21 04:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Ariadne: still proofreading this one: http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/effective-free-software-advocacy/ | Aug 21 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The University of Costumed Heroes” by the Free Software Foundation is an Example of Effective Free Software Advocacy | Techrights | Aug 21 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: if you can help... | Aug 21 04:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-chicago-police-lightfoot-protests-20200820-57vxhaa57jhijo3xllrflztcse-story.html | Aug 21 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | ‘Fort Lori’: Chicago police ban protests on Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s block, order arrests for anyone who won’t leave - Chicago Tribune | Aug 21 05:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | One term mayor. | Aug 21 05:13 |
| schestowitz | https://www.freebsd.org | Aug 21 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | The FreeBSD Project | Aug 21 05:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ | Aug 21 05:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD Handbook | Aug 21 05:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/ | Aug 21 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 11.X and 12.X | Aug 21 05:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.freebsd.org/where.html | Aug 21 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | Download FreeBSD | Aug 21 05:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/12.1-RELEASE/i386/Latest/ | Aug 21 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-download.freebsd.org | Index of /ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/12.1-RELEASE/i386/Latest/ | Aug 21 05:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.4-RELEASE/i386/Latest/ | Aug 21 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-download.freebsd.org | Index of /ftp/releases/VM-IMAGES/11.4-RELEASE/i386/Latest/ | Aug 21 05:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/hikudev/status/1296582899723046918 | Aug 21 06:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hikudev: 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes By @schestowitz #BigTech #IBM… https://t.co/dMJ2XBZybz | Aug 21 06:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hikudev: 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes By @schestowitz #BigTech #IBM… https://t.co/dMJ2XBZybz | Aug 21 06:53 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 06:53 |
| schestowitz | 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes | Aug 21 06:53 |
| schestowitz | By @schestowitz | Aug 21 06:53 |
| schestowitz | #BigTech #IBM #Racism | Aug 21 06:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 06:53 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: ping | Aug 21 09:18 |
| schestowitz | do you know melindas in hungary? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melinda | Aug 21 09:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Melinda - Wikipedia | Aug 21 09:19 | |
| schestowitz | According to this, it is a common name | Aug 21 09:19 |
| schestowitz | it says there it used to also be common in the US | Aug 21 09:19 |
| schestowitz | lol "Philanthropists" | Aug 21 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Gates listed under "Philanthropists" | Aug 21 09:20 |
| schestowitz | As if it's an occupation | Aug 21 09:20 |
| schestowitz | it just means "rich person" | Aug 21 09:20 |
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| scientes | <schestowitz> it just means "rich person" | Aug 21 09:23 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRrCY5uhWY | Aug 21 09:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uncle Scrooge - The Daily Money Swim - YouTube | Aug 21 09:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ | Aug 21 09:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: scientes ^ | Aug 21 09:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: we >really< need those court documents | Aug 21 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | Techrights | Aug 21 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | we'll compensate you for the paper fees and hassle | Aug 21 09:29 |
| schestowitz | there might be something in those court hearings and nobody is covering it | Aug 21 09:29 |
| schestowitz | I could joke about Jones possibly being dead already | Aug 21 09:29 |
| schestowitz | (just in case) | Aug 21 09:30 |
| scientes | schestowitz, I don't care | Aug 21 09:30 |
| schestowitz | many people do care | Aug 21 09:34 |
| schestowitz | more so after refusal to explain the epstein connections, which continued after the conviction | Aug 21 09:34 |
| schestowitz | and then followed by lies | Aug 21 09:34 |
| schestowitz | which were later refuted | Aug 21 09:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2020 | Aug 21 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Aug 21 09:35 | |
| schestowitz | [15:22] <Ariadne> y combinator is altman | Aug 21 09:46 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Altman | Aug 21 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sam Altman - Wikipedia | Aug 21 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | seems to have no merit other than "money" | Aug 21 09:46 |
| schestowitz | I thought maybe he had created something | Aug 21 09:46 |
| schestowitz | something technical | Aug 21 09:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SNAFU | Aug 21 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: SNAFU | Aug 21 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | One of a progression of military situational indicators: | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | 1. SNAFU - Situation Normal, All Fucked Up - Thing are running normally. | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | 2. TARFUN - Things Are Really Fucked Up Now - Houston, we have a problem. | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | 3. FUBAR - Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition - Burn it to the ground and start over from scratch; it's totally destroyed. | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | "In 2005, at age 19,[10] Altman co-founded and became CEO of Loopt,[11] a location-based social networking mobile application. After raising more than $30M in venture capital, Loopt was shut down in 2012 after failing to get traction. It was acquired by the Green Dot Corporation for $43.4 million.[12][13] " | Aug 21 10:17 |
| schestowitz | "Altman has said that he hopes to expand Y Combinator to fund 1,000 new companies per year. He has also tried to expand the types of companies funded by YC, especially 'hard technology' companies" | Aug 21 10:17 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_News | Aug 21 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hacker News - Wikipedia | Aug 21 10:29 | |
| schestowitz | "Hacker News is a social news website focusing on computer science and entrepreneurship. It is run by Paul Graham's investment fund and startup incubator, Y Combinator. In general, content that can be submitted is defined as "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity." | Aug 21 10:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/hacker-news-censorship/ | Aug 21 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Hacker’ News (HN) Censorship | Techrights | Aug 21 10:30 | |
| schestowitz | "Graham stated he hopes to avoid the Eternal September that results in the general decline of intelligent discourse within a community.[4] The site has a proactive attitude in moderating content, including automated flame and spam detectors and active human moderation. It also practices stealth banning in which user posts stop appearing for others to see, unbeknownst to the user.[10] Additional software is used to detect "voting rings | Aug 21 10:33 |
| schestowitz | to purposefully vote up stories".[2] " | Aug 21 10:33 |
| schestowitz | Stealth banning | Aug 21 10:33 |
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| liberty_box | https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/08/microsoft-put-off-fixing-zero-day-for-2-years/ | Aug 21 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Microsoft Put Off Fixing Zero Day for 2 Years — Krebs on Security | Aug 21 10:48 | |
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| Ariadne | https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=96734 pretty much sums up how my day is going | Aug 21 12:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | 96734 – gcc 10.2.0 fails to compile on mips64 due to crash in IPA SRA pass | Aug 21 12:29 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: yes, i've encountered a few Melindas in Hungary | Aug 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | i don't really know any of them though | Aug 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | 21 053300 < Ariadne> why would you spend billions on redhat just to trash it | Aug 21 12:44 |
| MinceR | maybe they get kickbacks from microshit for killing GNU/Linux | Aug 21 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnrnkMlw3UM | Aug 21 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnrnkMlw3UM | Aug 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz | oops | Aug 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz | [12:44] <MinceR> maybe they get kickbacks from microshit for killing GNU/Linux | Aug 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat did try to sell to Microsoft directly | Aug 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz | though it's not clear who contacted who | Aug 21 13:27 |
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| XRevan86 | > Alexey Navalny is fighting for his life in an #Omsk hospital after an apparent poisoning | Aug 21 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | The main diagnosis they're working with is that his sugar dropped in the aeroplane suddenly. | Aug 21 15:01 |
| XRevan86 | Now he's in a coma. Did he have severe diabetes? I don't think he had. | Aug 21 15:02 |
| scientes | typical russian politics | Aug 21 15:02 |
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| XRevan86 | Transport to FRG was rejected with a statement that he's "untransportable" | Aug 21 15:03 |
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| XRevan86 | Could a person not know they have diabetes until they're in a literal coma? | Aug 21 15:06 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Yes… him being "untransportable" is suspicious in on itself. | Aug 21 15:08 |
| XRevan86 | he being, him being, his being… suddenly not sure which pronoun inflection to use | Aug 21 15:09 |
| scientes | his | Aug 21 15:10 |
| XRevan86 | That's the one that makes the most sense, but I think "him being" is the version I heard the most. Everyone's wrong, again, I guess :). | Aug 21 15:11 |
| scientes | it is his | Aug 21 15:11 |
| scientes | but English speakers mess up inflection all the time | Aug 21 15:11 |
| XRevan86 | They indeed do. | Aug 21 15:11 |
| scientes | funny thing is that is like SAT-level English | Aug 21 15:12 |
| scientes | to get inflection right | Aug 21 15:12 |
| scientes | when other languages that is like 5-year-old stuff | Aug 21 15:12 |
| XRevan86 | I even heard on several occasions "from you and I" | Aug 21 15:12 |
| scientes | is that that | Aug 21 15:13 |
| scientes | the double "that" | Aug 21 15:13 |
| XRevan86 | It's like they heard that "me and you" is not right, so to be correct they do s/me and you/you and I/g | Aug 21 15:14 |
| XRevan86 | and so a hypercorrection was born | Aug 21 15:15 |
| scientes | exactly what happened | Aug 21 15:15 |
| XRevan86 | "the double "that"" – well, why not | Aug 21 15:15 |
| XRevan86 | it's like "had had", the word is overloaded, so it be put side by side serving two different functions | Aug 21 15:16 |
| XRevan86 | * it can be put | Aug 21 15:16 |
| scientes | it bes put :) | Aug 21 15:16 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: it is possible for rapid onset type 1a Diabetes to go from no Diabetes to full Diabetes in less than 12 hours. Autoimmune diabetes is this type 1a basically immune system gone stupid. | Aug 21 15:17 |
| oiaohm | That is insanely rare. | Aug 21 15:18 |
| oiaohm | It also possible to be caused by different forms of posioning. | Aug 21 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: With no premonitions? Maybe food choices? | Aug 21 15:18 |
| XRevan86 | Because it is known that Alexei Navalny only drank a small cup of tea before the flight. Don't know if it had sugar in it. | Aug 21 15:18 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you have any news of it that isn't the typical US trash? | Aug 21 15:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: About that he drank only tea? | Aug 21 15:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Yes, his friends/comrades/allies say that. | Aug 21 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | About that he has diabetes – no, that's the opinion of the Omsk doctors. | Aug 21 15:20 |
| scientes | “Unevacuable condition” | Aug 21 15:20 |
| XRevan86 | also opinion of the Omsk doctors | Aug 21 15:20 |
| scientes | > The moment Alexey Navalny’s sudden illness was reported, his wife, Yulia, lawyer and political ally Ivan Zhdanov, and “Doctors’ Alliance” leader Anastasia Vasileva rushed to the airport in Moscow and boarded a plane for Omsk. When they arrived at the hospital, however, they weren’t allowed to see Navalny. Officials first refused to admit them due to “a lack of security clearance.” | Aug 21 15:21 |
| scientes | this stuff is so typical | Aug 21 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | they literally said "untransportable", with a calque in Russian | Aug 21 15:21 |
| scientes | its the way that Russians think | Aug 21 15:21 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Diabetes Autoimmune form is that you immune system decides that you insulin-producing cells. Normally if your immune system is this defective it happens when you are young. Food choices is not a factor in a major way. It more something that causes person to have a immune response that goes wrong. | Aug 21 15:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: His wife was allowed to enter eventually. | Aug 21 15:21 |
| scientes | and take her own blood sample? | Aug 21 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That I don't know. | Aug 21 15:22 |
| oiaohm | Opps Diabetes Autoimmune form is that you immune system decides that you insulin-producing cells -add here- is bad and kills them all. | Aug 21 15:22 |
| scientes | oiaohm, diabeties is an autoimmune problem | Aug 21 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: I means food choices immediately before the disaster. | Aug 21 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | mean | Aug 21 15:22 |
| scientes | ahh, but as you point out there is a different one | Aug 21 15:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Anastasia Vasil'eva is also his therapist | Aug 21 15:24 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Its broader than food choices think of all the different things that can set of a allergic reaction and cuase the immune system to go up on high alert. | Aug 21 15:24 |
| oiaohm | Now if that causes the immune system to by major error to take out insulin-producing cells once those are gone there is a very short time until you will be in major medical trouble. | Aug 21 15:25 |
| oiaohm | Bad part is that person may not feel any form of illness in that part. First sign is normally hospital or death. | Aug 21 15:26 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: What are the odds of that happening in an aeroplane? | Aug 21 15:26 |
| oiaohm | The odds of having it happen as a adult instead of a child to start off with makes a person winning a loto twice in a row look good.. | Aug 21 15:28 |
| oiaohm | So being in a aeroplane is not the least chance factor here. | Aug 21 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | Not just adult, he's 44 years old. | Aug 21 15:29 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Right. | Aug 21 15:30 |
| oiaohm | Exacly most people with type 1 its appears in adolescence and maybe in the 20s rarely. | Aug 21 15:30 |
| oiaohm | that type 1a | Aug 21 15:30 |
| oiaohm | 44 years old for it happening is alone insanely rare. | Aug 21 15:31 |
| oiaohm | type 2 diabetes that is the normal aduit form you would expect decent lead up symptoms but there are some rare people who first major symptoms is hospitalisation. But if he has had a yearly decent medical checks early warning to this should have shown in blood work well before issues. | Aug 21 15:34 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: basically type 1a insanely rare for a 44 year old could go from zero diagnose possible to critical in 12 hours. Type 2 diabates it possible if he had not been having medical to drop in coma on flight with something that has been progressing for a few years. | Aug 21 15:36 |
| XRevan86 | apparently there's footage, I'm looking for it | Aug 21 15:36 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/z7lfPvLJrqg?t=4547 | Aug 21 15:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Отравление Навального. Спецэфир - YouTube | Aug 21 15:39 | |
| XRevan86 | apparently that's the footage | Aug 21 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | and apparently the German aeroplane is still waiting and isn't going anywhere | Aug 21 15:44 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: being diabetes https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/ask-dmine-lifespan-sans-insulin Basically there is at least 12 delay between when getting critical and coma problem. | Aug 21 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.healthline.com | How Long Can Your Body Survive Without Insulin? | Aug 21 15:44 | |
| XRevan86 | > high blood sugar | Aug 21 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | the "diagnosis" is extremely low sugar | Aug 21 15:45 |
| XRevan86 | "A sudden decrease of sugar in the blood on the aeroplane, which caused a loss of consciousness" | Aug 21 15:47 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you mean insultin overdose? | Aug 21 15:48 |
| oiaohm | There is a fun thing in the first stage of coming a person with Diabates it called Reactive hypoglycemia. | Aug 21 15:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: insulting overdose doesn't stop at giving health issues, it also cusses at you? | Aug 21 15:49 |
| scientes | ............. | Aug 21 15:49 |
| scientes | its a newly discovered hormone called insultin | Aug 21 15:50 |
| XRevan86 | insult to injury | Aug 21 15:50 |
| scientes | it causes Tourettes syndrome | Aug 21 15:51 |
| scientes | and also people to be convinced they are sultans | Aug 21 15:51 |
| XRevan86 | > Reactive hypoglycemia, postprandial hypoglycemia, or sugar crash is a term describing recurrent episodes of symptomatic hypoglycemia occurring within four hours after a high carbohydrate meal in people with and without diabetes. | Aug 21 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: one cup of tea | Aug 21 15:52 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: there is two hormones at play. glucagon and insultin that come from the pancreas. | Aug 21 15:52 |
| XRevan86 | not exactly rich on carbohydrates | Aug 21 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | "insultin" – I guess we're going with this %) | Aug 21 15:53 |
| oiaohm | glucagon goes to liver to tell to to level out suger levels. With that missing suger levels can go low really low then have the liver panic and go really high and then back to really low. | Aug 21 15:53 |
| oiaohm | Welcome to suger level rollacoaster that really out to kill you. | Aug 21 15:54 |
| oiaohm | Normally the liver holds everything fairly stable for 12 hours unless a person has been under eating for quite some time. | Aug 21 15:55 |
| oiaohm | Normally diabetes is treated by giving insultin and letting the liver just get use to doing it own thing without glucagon guidence. | Aug 21 15:56 |
| *XRevan86 will try to insult people with diabetes, they need it. | Aug 21 15:57 | |
| Ariadne | [08:06:08] <XRevan86> Could a person not know they have diabetes until they're in a literal coma? | Aug 21 15:57 |
| Ariadne | diabetic ketoacidosis can cause coma | Aug 21 15:57 |
| Ariadne | happened to one of my coworkers recently, actually. | Aug 21 15:57 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: sorry repeated typo I was aim for the word Insulin | Aug 21 15:58 |
| XRevan86 | > Triggers may include infection, not taking insulin correctly, stroke and certain medications such as steroids. | Aug 21 15:58 |
| Ariadne | low blood sugar can also cause coma | Aug 21 15:59 |
| Ariadne | it's one of those things where it can go either way | Aug 21 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | "Diagnostic method: High blood sugar" – yea, that's not it | Aug 21 16:00 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: you have to allow for liver at play. | Aug 21 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: This also looks like something that's relatively easy to diagnose. | Aug 21 16:00 |
| oiaohm | Liver attempting to mask over diabetic issues can cause both high and low blood sugger. | Aug 21 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | There's still no proper diagnosis available. | Aug 21 16:01 |
| oiaohm | Yes rapid changing from one to the other would match up for liver at play. | Aug 21 16:01 |
| oiaohm | You really only get a solid diagnosis once the liver decides not to be messing around with the data. | Aug 21 16:02 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/08/7a5c2394b86a046c.jpg | Aug 21 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | It will be https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2020-07/1595308279_5.jpg | Aug 21 16:05 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: one of the issues with Diabetes is take a few weeks to work out a solid diagnose what one it is. Few weeks to get the liver stable and monitoring what base level hormones are to see what is missing/screwed up. | Aug 21 16:06 |
| oiaohm | Its fairly quick to work out that you are looking at something possible diabetes but what one is tricky. | Aug 21 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | Except they didn't even say that it is diabetes, albeit some media already took the hint. | Aug 21 16:08 |
| oiaohm | Diabetic ketoacidosis is a serious complication of diabetes that occurs when your body produces high levels of blood acids called ketones. < Note this is a low suger effect caused by burning fat. | Aug 21 16:10 |
| oiaohm | as in low suger starts that. | Aug 21 16:10 |
| oiaohm | Then it can run away and produce high suger before stopping and crashing to low suger. Basically another rinse and repeat cycle. | Aug 21 16:11 |
| oiaohm | Between diabetic ketoacidosis and liver masking can go quite some time without symtoms with diabetes. | Aug 21 16:12 |
| oiaohm | But those masks will fall away. | Aug 21 16:12 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/Kira_Yarmysh/status/1296800336255111168 German doctors made a conclusion that they can transport Navalny safely. | Aug 21 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Кира Ярмыш (@Kira_Yarmysh): "Немецкие врачи — профессиональные реаниматологи — осмотрев Алексея Навального, пришли к выводу о том, что он транспортабелен и оборудование их самолета позволяет безопасно немедленно перевезти его в Берлин в у | Aug 21 16:13 | |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/21aug2020/tillstable.html but the Omsk hospital #1 won't let them | Aug 21 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: Главврач больницы в Омске заявляет, что Навальный останется там "до стабилизации состояния" | Aug 21 16:13 | |
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| disinterested | hello, anyone home? | Aug 21 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | > Colleagues reaches a conclusion that, considering that in the blood and in other biomaterials we couldn't find any poisonous substances, he had a metabolism malfunction, more specifically, a decrease in the levels of glucose in the blood during a rapid change of pressure – how everyone looks at it, during takeoff. | Aug 21 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | disinterested: Everyone's home :) | Aug 21 16:17 |
| disinterested | hmm, was hoping for tech not bio, is that possible here and now? | Aug 21 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | technological poisoning? | Aug 21 16:19 |
| disinterested | no, no need for poison | Aug 21 16:19 |
| XRevan86 | disinterested: Just discussing what happened to Alexei Navalny, a Russian oppositional politician. | Aug 21 16:20 |
| disinterested | not much tech in that, i think, but thx for responding | Aug 21 16:20 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/68e73f28e15e45cb.jpg | Aug 21 16:21 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: rapid drop in glucose level can be linked to takeoff. Fear of flight and increase in normal breathing to deal with altered pressure increase glucose usage. That add up for pancreas not doing its drop and making glucagon to level out glucose. | Aug 21 16:24 |
| oiaohm | Of course any poisonous substance that has rigged a person for this can have had 12 hours before that point to get out of system. | Aug 21 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That's a person who's making flights regularly, much more often than a layman. | Aug 21 16:25 |
| oiaohm | flying regularly does not mean you don't have fear of it. | Aug 21 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | That does make it more unlikely, since there are no actions to reduce it. | Aug 21 16:26 |
| oiaohm | Lot of people who fly regularly and do still have fear of flying don't take special actions to reduce it. | Aug 21 16:27 |
| oiaohm | Instead just mentally push through. | Aug 21 16:27 |
| oiaohm | Of course that fine while body is working fine. | Aug 21 16:28 |
| oiaohm | its just burnt a few more calories in the fear bit of flight. | Aug 21 16:28 |
| oiaohm | Normally that class of fear of flight is only fear on take off and landing. | Aug 21 16:28 |
| oiaohm | Not the total fear thing. | Aug 21 16:29 |
| MinceR | well yeah, people tend to be concerned of landing in a fast, uncontrolled way | Aug 21 16:29 |
| oiaohm | Enough in flight training where they cover crash on take off quite a few times. Fear of landing fast on take off also enters mind. | Aug 21 16:30 |
| oiaohm | Yes those aircraft repeating safety training breifs are not without their long term mental effects. | Aug 21 16:31 |
| oiaohm | More often a person flys commerical the more likely they will have some fear of take off and landing that has been trained into them. | Aug 21 16:32 |
| psydread | > hmm, was hoping for tech not bio, is that possible here and now? | Aug 21 16:32 |
| psydread | it's about biotech | Aug 21 16:32 |
| disinterested | k, thx, signing off | Aug 21 16:33 |
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| psydread | goodbye and farewell | Aug 21 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | I guess they expected some concentrated techrights 24/7 | Aug 21 16:35 |
| psydread | as if tech (what kind of tech?) exists in a vacuum | Aug 21 16:35 |
| psydread | yes, for their personal entertainment | Aug 21 16:35 |
| oiaohm | Its kind of counter to what most people would think. Most people would think the fear of flight would go down more you fly when it in fact most commonly goes the other way. And in a more informed way that you fear increases in the most dangerous section. | Aug 21 16:36 |
| oiaohm | sections. | Aug 21 16:36 |
| oiaohm | The most dangerous sections of flight is take off and landing. | Aug 21 16:36 |
| scientes | oiaohm, landing is alot more difficult than take-off | Aug 21 16:36 |
| oiaohm | scientes: when it comes to engine stress the worse is take-off. | Aug 21 16:37 |
| oiaohm | It does depend if you flying with a company with good maintaince or not on how dangerous take off is. | Aug 21 16:43 |
| schestowitz | [16:35] <XRevan86> I guess they expected some concentrated techrights 24/7 | Aug 21 16:44 |
| schestowitz | just took a long nap, catching up now | Aug 21 16:44 |
| *schestowitz realises some weirdo came and went off | Aug 21 16:46 | |
| XRevan86 | https://admin.5-tv.ru/shared/files/202008/1_1161154.jpg a photograph (right) of Navalny in a cafe in Tomsk, and a photograph of him and his fan in the aeroplane | Aug 21 16:46 |
| *XRevan86 is trying to find information about what kind of an aeroplane exactly he took. | Aug 21 16:47 | |
| XRevan86 | Boeing 737-800 | Aug 21 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | from S7 Airlines | Aug 21 16:48 |
| schestowitz | [15:02] <XRevan86> Now he's in a coma. Did he have severe diabetes? I don't think he had. | Aug 21 16:50 |
| schestowitz | is he still in a coma? | Aug 21 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: yes | Aug 21 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | In a "stable severe condition" | Aug 21 16:50 |
| schestowitz | "come on, sugar, we didn't do anything to Alex..." | Aug 21 16:50 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18829999 | Aug 21 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Navalny still in a coma. It's election season, you know, Putin is running for reelection in 2 months. Can't be admonished. | Aug 21 16:53 | |
| schestowitz | [16:46] <XRevan86> https://admin.5-tv.ru/shared/files/202008/1_1161154.jpg a photograph (right) of Navalny in a cafe in Tomsk, and a photograph of him and his fan in the aeroplane | Aug 21 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Speaking of fans, Trump is a "Fan" | Aug 21 16:55 |
| schestowitz | but of Vlad, not Alex | Aug 21 16:55 |
| schestowitz | makes you wonder if these tactics will be copied with orange shifts across the Pacific pond one day | Aug 21 16:55 |
| schestowitz | *shirts | Aug 21 16:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, Ariadne posted a scan | Aug 21 16:56 |
| XRevan86 | I commented on it that in 2007 being a fan wasn't as bad as "respecting" him a decade later. | Aug 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz | mafia families | Aug 21 16:58 |
| schestowitz | trump's criminal enterprises predates 2016 | Aug 21 16:58 |
| schestowitz | *prise | Aug 21 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Melania must be jealous | Aug 21 16:59 |
| schestowitz | she has competition | Aug 21 16:59 |
| schestowitz | "Donnie, let's do again the one where you call me "Vlad"..." | Aug 21 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | Volodya, Volodyeñka, I have the best words | Aug 21 17:02 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like Vodka | Aug 21 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | just short for Volodimir | Aug 21 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | * Volòdya, Volòdyeñka | Aug 21 17:05 |
| *XRevan86 put accent markers, can't be too careful %) | Aug 21 17:05 | |
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| schestowitz | ^^^ big news | Aug 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | They told me so months ago | Aug 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | the Pardud devs | Aug 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | That's millions of young gnu /linux users | Aug 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | and the devs say "gnu" | Aug 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | the media in the West NEVER reports this | Aug 21 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | https://pleroma.site/objects/3e5e81e0-ccf1-42d7-a77b-3230a3d1c567 uff, thought it's the exact logo as Opera (RIP) | Aug 21 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 21 17:22 | |
| XRevan86 | but no, it's slightly different | Aug 21 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | can't really make an accusation considering how unoriginal it is | Aug 21 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | > It started its life as a Gentoo-based project before developing its own unique identity. Since late 2012, the distribution is based on Debian. | Aug 21 17:24 |
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| XRevan86 | That wording puts salt in the wound. | Aug 21 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | It developed its own unique identity. And then scrapped it. | Aug 21 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | Haven't heard much from Pisi Linux lately. | Aug 21 17:25 |
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| XRevan86 | "Welcome To Pisi GNU/Linux!" – oh. | Aug 21 17:26 |
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| psydread | the West is also the last holdout for Windows, if you compare percentages of users of Windows to Android across the world | Aug 21 17:27 |
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| MinceR | i wonder if donnie, viktor or the others mind that vlad is cheating on them with the others | Aug 21 17:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: cheating of shitting? | Aug 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz | (or peeing) | Aug 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: pisi is or was the package manager | Aug 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz | there was also a distro called that, briefly | Aug 21 17:30 |
| schestowitz | techrights wrote some articles about this | Aug 21 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | PiSi was a package manager of Pardus | Aug 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and billness did some tricks in turkey | Aug 21 17:31 |
| schestowitz | maybe they ran out of tricks | Aug 21 17:31 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: :> | Aug 21 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | then something happened and Pardus became a derivative of Debian in 2012 | Aug 21 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | and so Pisi GNU/Linux was born, a fork of pre-2012 Pardus | Aug 21 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | It still exists. | Aug 21 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Debian is a good base | Aug 21 17:35 |
| schestowitz | Gentoo I can imagine would be harder | Aug 21 17:35 |
| schestowitz | and development-wise it seems like Gentoo has been stagnant for years | Aug 21 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It started from Gentoo like SUSE did. | Aug 21 17:36 |
| schestowitz | they just take pride in being the base of chromeos | Aug 21 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | or like MOPSLinux did | Aug 21 17:36 |
| MinceR | debian used to be a good base up to version 7 | Aug 21 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | I.e. it quickly became its own thing. | Aug 21 17:36 |
| MinceR | now it's just a less shitty cancerd/Linux distribution | Aug 21 17:36 |
| MinceR | (as in, it doesn't freeze during boot or installation as easily as fedora and ubunturd) | Aug 21 17:37 |
| *XRevan86 encountered a faulty initscript which thought the programme double-forks, and it doesn't. | Aug 21 17:47 | |
| XRevan86 | The transport to FRG was allowed. | Aug 21 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/08/21/omsk-doctors-agree-to-send-navalny-to-germany-for-treatment | Aug 21 17:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 21 17:48 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sort of wondering if I should ultimately migrate to Debian but I never do. It left a bad taste last time. | Aug 21 17:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The desktop role didn't seem to be as polished as it could have been in 2009. | Aug 21 17:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus part of their glacial development pace is all of those weird architectures that have P1 status. | Aug 21 17:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they only cared about x86, then predictable 2 year release cycles would be easier. | Aug 21 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you have to hold up a release because you're worried about a PowerPC Mac from 2005 then that doesn't help me. | Aug 21 17:57 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: If you know that a release is held up for reasons that do not concern you, update to it regardless. | Aug 21 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | A lot of times the release is postponed for installer polishing reasons. | Aug 21 18:02 |
| XRevan86 | So pre-release Debian is practically stable, if you don't use the installer. | Aug 21 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Coal electricity generation fell to half of what it was when Trump took office. Wow. | Aug 21 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Got rid of the Clean Power Plan but it was already too late. | Aug 21 18:07 |
| MinceR | it does help those who run PPC, though | Aug 21 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Natural gas is super cheap. Aside from that, if they actually did open new plants, they'd still have to put in the best available technology to clean the emissions, which is expensive. | Aug 21 18:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also an investment that you have to plan for decades in advance, and even if Trump did win the election, he'd get 4 more years before being constitutionally ineligible to run again. | Aug 21 18:08 |
| MinceR | then again, debian's pretense of making "stable releases" is pointless as long as cancerd is included as part of those "stable releases" | Aug 21 18:09 |
| MinceR | cancerd is broken by design | Aug 21 18:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Looks like Waukegan is done for. | Aug 21 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even after the rioting and looting that destroyed several city blocks a couple months ago, people are demonstrating against the police and demanding a 50% cut to their budget. | Aug 21 18:12 |
| MinceR | looks like they don't like armed psychotics even if they do happen to be wearing police badges | Aug 21 18:13 |
| MinceR | curious | Aug 21 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As a minority-majority city that already had a bad economy and a lot of crime before all this..... | Aug 21 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now ground zero of the Coronavirus in Lake County. | Aug 21 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops might be the lesser of the two evils. | Aug 21 18:14 |
| MinceR | biggest city in Lake County, so no surprise there | Aug 21 18:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The system is broken when even the worst of the criminals they manage to take off the street end up doing life on the installment plan. | Aug 21 18:14 |
| MinceR | no, the worst of the criminals are running the states and the corporations | Aug 21 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were pissed that Jason Van Dyke, a cop, got 26 years for murder. | Aug 21 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's actually a more severe punishment than some of the Black Disciples gang members get for a drive by shooting. | Aug 21 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of them went away in 1990 and was paroled in 2013. He was arrested again for running a drug operation, and Judge Young Kim let him go and dropped the charges yesterday. | Aug 21 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we're dealing with tyranny from the federal bench too. Letting people go because they're black. | Aug 21 18:17 |
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| MinceR | did Old Kim agree? | Aug 21 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How the fuck do you come to the conclusion of insufficient evidence when you take into account the fact that he was already a convicted murderer out on parole? | Aug 21 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just let the trial proceed and the government can show their case. | Aug 21 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You let a jury decide if there's enough evidence. In fact, that's what happened. A grand jury indicted him and that should be enough for a trial to proceed. | Aug 21 18:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Felonies are a higher bar for the government to proceed with because there's more at stake for the defendant. | Aug 21 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So you have to assemble a jury with 24 people on it and have 13 of them agree that they can even proceed to have a trial, then you have to have a jury of 12 agree unanimously to convict, and then they also have to agree on the sentence. | Aug 21 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody who was on the Grand Jury can be on the Trial Jury. | Aug 21 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If Indiana was testing at the same rate as Illinois, they'd be adding 80% more Coronavirus cases per day on a population adjusted basis. | Aug 21 18:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans have discovered how easy it is to bury the facts by turning people away from tests and making people wait 6-7 hours in a hot car to get to the one free testing site in the region. | Aug 21 18:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This herd immunity bullshit is pretty outragous. | Aug 21 18:59 |
| schestowitz | it is | Aug 21 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The older the person is, the less antibodies are leftover after infection, so it's pretty clear that if someone will just keep getting it over and over, it will be old people. | Aug 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I never quite 'got' it | Aug 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | they make it sound like the herd will protect itself as a group | Aug 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | as if people are collectives | Aug 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | and if old men and women die, then it's just some 'dead cell' | Aug 21 19:00 |
| schestowitz | but those are actual people | Aug 21 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans are like a really incompetent jesusy borg collective. | Aug 21 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't want to stop assimilating until nobody has freedom. | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | they eat Jesus | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | and drink his blood | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | sick beliefs | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | why would you want cannibalism in your religion | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | even if it is merely metaphorical | Aug 21 19:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 2 deaths today in the UK with COVID-19 | Aug 21 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it's mental illness level more than stupidity. A transubstantiation ritual. | Aug 21 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're gay, you can't eat Jesus! No eating Jesus for you! | Aug 21 19:02 |
| schestowitz | 1000 new cases though | Aug 21 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Uhhh, okay." | Aug 21 19:02 |
| schestowitz | https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ | Aug 21 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coronavirus.data.gov.uk | Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK | Aug 21 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | 76 on ventilators | Aug 21 19:03 |
| schestowitz | more than yesterday, I think | Aug 21 19:03 |
| schestowitz | 6 more | Aug 21 19:03 |
| schestowitz | 841 in hospital | Aug 21 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That guy next door was slamming and banging on the door enough to knock things off my wall and telling his "bitch ass hoe" girlfriend to "get the fuck out here and get in the car bitch". Hopefully, that means I won't have neighbors for a while. | Aug 21 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Either because they're moving out or the police eventually take them away. | Aug 21 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't matter to me. | Aug 21 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The judges gave up sentencing people to "hard labor". Gee, I wonder why..... *smirks* | Aug 21 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Indiana did get one thing right. | Aug 21 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have inmates out there in the summer paving roads as their punishment. | Aug 21 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll vote for this latest tax hike. It would go into effect right away and be another $3,600 a year to the state from my in-laws. | Aug 21 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing like a flaming bag of dog shit delivered by the government. | Aug 21 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No trip to Spain for Marisol this year. Not looking good next year either. | Aug 21 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Seems to be Hungarian me. As far as how much he despises his government, at least. | Aug 21 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing good about it is that occasionally it brings an ass kicking to someone you don't like very much and it's a laugh riot for you when they figure out what the state can actually do to someone it takes an interest in. | Aug 21 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: You said wealthy people keep a low profile. | Aug 21 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone should try to. | Aug 21 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good things rarely come from calling attention to yourself. | Aug 21 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kolfage used the "triple amputee veteran" thing as cover for being an asshole who ripped millions of Republicans off. | Aug 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bannon ran the scheme with him. | Aug 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It turns out there was absolutely no downside to We Build The Wall. | Aug 21 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Millions of dollars that could have gone to the Trump campaign got diverted to a fake nonprofit that was being used as Kolfage and Bannon's piggy bank. | Aug 21 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The small segments of wall they built were not up to Army Corps of Engineers standards and are falling over already, which is why the Army said they never picked those sites to build a wall that would have gone 3x deeper into the ground and still fallen down from soil erosion. | Aug 21 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump has egg all over his face because it's impossible to distance himself from this. | Aug 21 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By getting themselves busted, they're probably going to be too busy dealing with the criminal charges to keep running their fake news outlets that my mom likes and shares on Facebook. | Aug 21 19:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: A lot of things would never fly today. | Aug 21 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why do you think the remake of National Lampoon's Vacation was so stupid and flopped? | Aug 21 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's politically incorrect to tell a joke. | Aug 21 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could never get the scene where they accidentally get off the freeway in St. Louis, gunshot are going off, everyone is black, and he stops for 2 minutes to get directions and they mug him and steal his hubcaps. | Aug 21 19:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The reason they usually St. Louis was a shithole in 1980, but the city has had to clear so many abandoned building that it's almost gone now. | Aug 21 19:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, damn it. Conjoined two sentences by tabbing over. | Aug 21 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, St. Louis is bad. You go over into the Illinois side and it's worse. | Aug 21 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, they're starting movie trailers with "Welcome back to the movies.". | Aug 21 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, 9/11 every day from a virus and we're being welcomed to go to the movies. | Aug 21 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Riiiiiiiight. | Aug 21 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm either going to have to see a mass vaccination campaign or a very steep drop that convinces me that herd immunity is much further along than anyone thought, and neither of those are even close to happening. | Aug 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | From what I'm seeing now, most of the drop in cases comes from severe cutbacks to testing, not less positive test results. | Aug 21 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So until the testing stabilizes and the number of positive results goes way down, nope. | Aug 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sorry Charlie. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. | Aug 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois keeps setting daily testing RECORDS, and the more of it we look for, the more we find, but even with daily testing records, the positive results percentage is also rising. | Aug 21 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we're moving in the wrong direction for sure. | Aug 21 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Texas cut testing by 60%. | Aug 21 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't accept that we're doing more to alow this down than almost any other state and for some reason it's not working out well here despite that. | Aug 21 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *slow | Aug 21 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state of Illinois has its own strategic medical supply stockpile now because we already got burned by relying on help from Trump that didn't come the first time around, and once states figured the trend was going down the first time, they got out of the bidding war for medical supplies and the price crashed. | Aug 21 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we have thousands of ventilators, and warehouses full of surgical gloves, face shields, and N95 masks now ready to go if this thing comes roaring back, and if I know Indiana....and I do....they're going to get caught flat footed a second time around this Fall and Trump will abandon them again. | Aug 21 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | [19:13] <DaemonFC[m]> Good things rarely come from calling attention to yourself. | Aug 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | Depends on the context | Aug 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: i no longer write about us covid19 stats | Aug 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | I lost faith/trust, more so than months ago when the measurements were sabotaged already | Aug 21 20:10 |
| schestowitz | US is not the only nation faking it | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | leave it for historians to assess the real # of deaths | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | one simple approach is | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you count death certs | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | for corresponding periods over the years | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | you then extrapolate the curve for the future | Aug 21 20:11 |
| schestowitz | in the future they can interpolate | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | between future years and pre-covic | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | covid | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | and then assert the middle can be death toll of covid, inc. suicides and lack of access to hospital etc. | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | the less direct effect | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | no gym, poorer food etc. | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | it might turn out to be like half a million people this year | Aug 21 20:12 |
| schestowitz | but death certs take time to process | Aug 21 20:13 |
| schestowitz | so middle of next year might be OK time to start doing these analyses | Aug 21 20:13 |
| schestowitz | assuming people don't just die invisibly without documentation of the death | Aug 21 20:13 |
| schestowitz | if Americans live to become about 70, or 77 on average, and assuming the population's age is equally distributed (it's not), you might assume 5 million deaths per annum | Aug 21 20:18 |
| schestowitz | so half a million is 'just' a 10% increase | Aug 21 20:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | CrystalMath: Epstein still had no reason to kill himself. | Aug 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was a pariah but he was rich. | Aug 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he could pay for lawyers to file motions and appeals until the cows came home. Psychiatrists to say anything he wanted them to, etc. | Aug 21 20:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: At least one reason why Walmart seems to be having plenty of everything is there's a per order quantity limit on most stuff now. | Aug 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, it only lets me order 3 coconut waters for Mandy. | Aug 21 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're doing this so that preppers can't wipe out the entire grocery section in a couple of order. | Aug 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're hiring, a lot. Online grocery pickup demand is sky high now. | Aug 21 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I noticed that the only grocery store that's ever packed is the Mexican one. | Aug 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Locally owned. No online option at all. | Aug 21 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Theoretically, one of the reasons why white people may be faring so much better is they won't even go into a store, even to shop for food. | Aug 21 20:38 |
| kingoffrance | why metaphorical cannabalism schestowitz? i think the answer is alchemy + get off prior sacrifice of animals ..."host" was roman too. i read that was what animals were used for, the blood was what they wanted, so its a "sacrifice" in a way, do this metaphorical one and stop doing the old system :) IOW: backwards compatibility IMO | Aug 21 20:38 |
| kingoffrance | legacy | Aug 21 20:38 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: during the height of the pandemic i too increase my online shopping, but only cash-on-delivery payment | Aug 21 20:38 |
| kingoffrance | adhering to prior standards :) | Aug 21 20:39 |
| kingoffrance | smooth transition | Aug 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not like there's no Coronavirus infections among white people in Lake County, it's just 4 times worse on a per capita basis for black people and about 10 times worse for Hispanic/Latino. | Aug 21 20:39 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: now it's buying stuff in stores with masks on | Aug 21 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Are white people just more inclined to stay away from it and reduce their odds? | Aug 21 20:39 |
| kingoffrance | theres ppl who claim thats what cow mutiliations are: the old system | Aug 21 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I do go into the store it's to dart in, get it, and get the hell out. | Aug 21 20:40 |
| kingoffrance | they leave the parts they dont care about | Aug 21 20:40 |
| kingoffrance | anyways, if something makes no sense, see what they had to be "compatible" with or what hw at the time was | Aug 21 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Check this shit out. | Aug 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.npr.org/2019/05/31/728332148/privately-funded-border-wall-near-completion-in-new-mexico | Aug 21 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Team Behind Privately Funded Border Wall Reveals Project Near Completion : NPR | Aug 21 20:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.npr.org/2020/08/21/904502224/crowdsourced-border-wall-donors-unsettled-by-fraud-and-money-laundering-charges | Aug 21 20:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Crowdsourced Border Wall Donors Disturbed By Fraud And Money Laundering Charges : NPR | Aug 21 20:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | In less than 90 days, NPR went from promoting We Build The Wall to reporting on the fact that it was a scam and what the people behind it were really up to before they all got arrested. | Aug 21 20:43 |
| kingoffrance | that doesnt look good "near completion" | Aug 21 20:44 |
| kingoffrance | doesnt make npr look good i mean | Aug 21 20:44 |
| kingoffrance | so your sources lied to you and you printed it? | Aug 21 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically. | Aug 21 20:45 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 21 20:45 |
| schestowitz | Bill Gates-bribed] #NPR | Aug 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | NPR is shite | Aug 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe their own donors are as bad | Aug 21 20:47 |
| schestowitz | bill gates likely worse | Aug 21 20:47 |
| schestowitz | and they smear gates critics now | Aug 21 20:47 |
| schestowitz | they're paid to do it | Aug 21 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The TL;DR here is that since Trump is criticizing Kolfage and Bannon, Trump has a derangement syndrome since Kolfage says everyone who criticizes him does. No? ;) | Aug 21 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We Build Bars (around Trump's former associates). | Aug 21 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I liked that episode of, what was it, Kimmel? Where he had Dr. Evil on. | Aug 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says he was part of the Trump Administration as Secretary of Evil. | Aug 21 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kimmel asks if it was his plan to deport the Dreamers, and he goes "I'm evil, I'm not a monster. That was Bannon mostly.". | Aug 21 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: NPR backpeddling as if they weren't promoting the scam themselves with We Build the Wall 80 days ago. | Aug 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Watch for that article to disappear. | Aug 21 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was obvious what this was, even though I am shocked that the government busted them and pursued criminal charges, since the scam was playing into Trump's voters and making them feel as if something was actually getting done on the border. Since he's built about 10 miles of new fence per year in office on a 2,860 mile long border. | Aug 21 20:55 |
| kingoffrance | yeah ppl see its all corporate now if it wasnt always, but the still ask for "we rely on your support" viewers like you | Aug 21 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | *say | Aug 21 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | the corporate donations go in the back door | Aug 21 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I normally get 5 minute long ads on PBS when I buy a coffee mug. | Aug 21 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Viewers like me, and Walmart, and BP, and David Koch, and Bill Gates. | Aug 21 20:56 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 21 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The reason I'm saying my mom and dad are stupid is that they like to imagine themselves as being in the big club that Carlin talked about when they're a couple of nobodies like the rest of us, who have successfully been duped while being beaten with the "big club" of the vanishing pensions that disappear the minute you go to collect it. | Aug 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can get some kind of a degree hanging on your wall and still have severe deficits somewhere else. | Aug 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People in the Big Club are not like my dad. They don't drive a 2000 Impala with 600,000 miles on it and live in a very modest ticky tacky house and take 1099 work where they can get it. | Aug 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Mission accomplished? | Aug 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | accomplished unlocked? | Aug 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | billgates now blocks comments in twitter | Aug 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | can't take the heat | Aug 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | can't handle people bring up epstein | Aug 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what 40 years of Reagan onward left him with, and he's considered "fortunate" by the standards of what's left. | Aug 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | we're winning the argument if he cannot confront even mere comments | Aug 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | which even trump allows, while banning some responders but not all | Aug 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. There's no such thing as a lifetime career anymore. Reagan, the silver-tongued devil started chipping away at everything that was great about this country, including a middle class lifestyle with one member of the family working, in a union job. | Aug 21 21:02 |
| MinceR | Fission Mailed | Aug 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My parents gave that up because they didn't like black people and big cities and the dog whistle worked on them. | Aug 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You just play to people's base instincts and you never lose, apparently. | Aug 21 21:03 |
| MinceR | Ronnie Raygun | Aug 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Railgun | Aug 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Rogueleg | Aug 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Reglued | Aug 21 21:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 21 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Roly Roguey | Aug 21 21:04 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/dylanbeattie/status/1291442504265605120 | Aug 21 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Dylan Beattie 🇪🇺 @ 🏡🔑🔽 (@dylanbeattie): "Danish orthography says that place names starting with Aa should be sorted as if they start with Å - but ONLY IF THEY ARE PLACES IN SCANDINAVIA. So this list is in Danish alphabetical order: Aachen Berlin Zurich Aarhus But, sure, it's the *computers* that make life difficult..." | nitter | Aug 21 21:05 | |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz | RoRo, roll on, roll our | Aug 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz | RoRo, roll on, roll out | Aug 21 21:05 |
| schestowitz | iirc, it's a pinoy word of some kind | Aug 21 21:05 |
| kingoffrance | rawhide | Aug 21 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do believe there's like a 90% chance Biden wins, but it's not going to end the American Carnage that Trump sent into overtime. It's a return to "normal". The "normal" that gave us Trump to begin with. This isn't, you know, everyone loves Biden. It's more like a 1976 election where people are just so fatigued of scandals and recessions that they'll take anything else. So even without a base, Biden is the clear | Aug 21 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | favorite. Just like Carter was. | Aug 21 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: If the US didn't have FPTP elections, what odds would both Trump and Biden have at winning the election? | Aug 21 21:07 |
| XRevan86 | a trick question, yes | Aug 21 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going to be a weird map too, apparently, like Trump being so weak that Biden will probably peel off at least some states where people look on Wikipedia some day and go "Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina? Texas!?". | Aug 21 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not just going to be Trump's loss, it will be a singing, humiliating defeat for the Republicans that throws their party into disarray for years. | Aug 21 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *stinging | Aug 21 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the beginning of the cycle, things didn't look that bad for Trump, and by not that bad I mean even New Hampshire flickered pink for like a second there, but now he's down 8 points in the polls in New Hampshire. | Aug 21 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | New Hampshire doesn't have that many votes. Just 4. But it's considered kind of a bellwether state because of its demographics. It's where a lot of independent voters that could go either way live so that they don't have to live in Massachusetts and pay outrageous taxes. | Aug 21 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois never signed a tax totalization agreement with Indiana, so there is no out of state resident rate on people who commute. | Aug 21 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You end up paying Illinois rates and then deducting it out of your Indiana taxes, which should bring your Indiana taxes down to zero. | Aug 21 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we get the taxes and screw Indiana because their tax code let's you deduct taxes paid to another state. | Aug 21 21:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There's not really that much incentive to try to live in Indiana and commute. One of John's coworkers at Midway tried moving across the state line and commuting to Midway and it was just too difficult. The Indiana trains break down or get stuck too much to rely on, and driving is a mess. | Aug 21 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd probably do some spending in New Hampshire. | Aug 21 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of reasons. Area denial being one of them. If the polls start closing there first and it's clear that Biden swept the entire Eastern seaboard from Maine to Virginia along with Pennsylvania, gives him more cover to start measuring for curtains in the Oval office, even if Trump manages to muddy the waters somewhere else. | Aug 21 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There will be some in person voting going on for 4 hours after the polls close on that side of the country. | Aug 21 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it looks like Trump is starting to lose big time, it could demoralize the other side somewhat. | Aug 21 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They might not vote at all. | Aug 21 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you help me read/proofread? | Aug 21 21:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 21 21:31 |
| schestowitz | cheers. http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/why-copyleft/ | Aug 21 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Lake County clerk says there will be a secure ballot box at the courthouse. | Aug 21 21:33 |
| schestowitz | a condom for each finger | Aug 21 21:33 |
| schestowitz | mail is... safer | Aug 21 21:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of mailing the ballot back, you can just drop it off there. I think I'll do that. With the reports that Trump has fucked up the post office so bad that the sorting centers are overflowing with prescriptions that people aren't getting, dead animals, and rotting food, this way I know they'll get my vote. | Aug 21 21:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What makes you say that? Especially with the unindicted felons that Trump put in charge of the post office? | Aug 21 21:34 |
| schestowitz | poor people cannot drive to the courthouse | Aug 21 21:34 |
| schestowitz | they need public transport | Aug 21 21:34 |
| schestowitz | another risky trip for them | Aug 21 21:34 |
| schestowitz | just to cast a vote | Aug 21 21:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: are you reading btw? | Aug 21 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | PACE is still running. | Aug 21 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As soon as I get done laughing. | Aug 21 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Alien 3 meme. Better than most of the ones I've seen you do. | Aug 21 21:35 |
| schestowitz | I fixed the bold face | Aug 21 21:38 |
| schestowitz | html typo | Aug 21 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Some call them “liberal” through it’s a misnomer as from the user’s point of view liberties are taken away" | Aug 21 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some call them “liberal”, through it’s a misnomer, as from the user’s point of view liberties are taken away | Aug 21 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "“liberal” word alludes to the freedom one one to exploit" | Aug 21 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | one gets? one receives? | Aug 21 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "deny access to software “improved” version of software." | Aug 21 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I found lots of mistakes | Aug 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | deny access to "improved" versions of the software | Aug 21 21:42 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 21 21:42 |
| schestowitz | spotted done | Aug 21 21:42 |
| schestowitz | it's done now | Aug 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Ever noticed how much Apple charges for the only computers permitted to run the Apple operating systems?" | Aug 21 21:42 |
| schestowitz | I caught about 6 errors | Aug 21 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing wrong here, but you might mention that when you buy it, the T2 chip makes it obsolete the moment Apple withdraws support, as it cannot run GNU/Linux or anything else. | Aug 21 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's a VERY serious problem because even if you buy it used, it won't be a computer that serves you well as a "Linux box". | Aug 21 21:43 |
| schestowitz | that's not a licensing restriction | Aug 21 21:44 |
| schestowitz | but technical impediment | Aug 21 21:44 |
| schestowitz | wow, I found lots of typos in this one | Aug 21 21:44 |
| schestowitz | BTW, did you see http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ | Aug 21 21:45 |
| schestowitz | we really need to get those court docs | Aug 21 21:45 |
| schestowitz | gates is apparently blocking all comments in Twitter now | Aug 21 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | Techrights | Aug 21 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | and googlebombing the media with vaccine spam | Aug 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bestiality porn is both illegal and not illegal in Illinois, btw. | Aug 21 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not illegal to possess, but it is illegal to make or distribute, so theoretically they could bust anyone who shares it on bittorrent or something. | Aug 21 21:46 |
| schestowitz | besides the point, I think | Aug 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | morality being the case | Aug 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | and there seems to be kiddie pr0n there | Aug 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | see the filename | Aug 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was mentioned in passing on Better Call Saul where he hands a guy a paper and says "What do you see?" and the guy goes "A man....fucking a horse!?". | Aug 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe kids with animals | Aug 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says, "Just imagine that horse is the bank." | Aug 21 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know how that line made its way into the show though. | Aug 21 21:48 |
| schestowitz | reactions of gates are not mostly consistent with 'prince' andrew... | Aug 21 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: So Rick Jones is all kinds of fucked in the head. | Aug 21 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not just kids. It's animals. | Aug 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | but we don't know the nature of things or what was known | Aug 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe gates knows something about someone else | Aug 21 21:49 |
| schestowitz | like Gary Little | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | and was eager to keep Epstein quiet, or whiten his name somehow | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | we don't know | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | we just know there's a need to dig more | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | if he was innocent, he would not speak through proxies | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | and would not repeatedly lie, too | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | you don't need to lie when you're innocent | Aug 21 21:50 |
| schestowitz | so we need those court docs | Aug 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | and see how quickly they deliver | Aug 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | if they did not remove/lost/redacted some already | Aug 21 21:51 |
| schestowitz | NHS says 190k+ tests for covid19 process | Aug 21 21:52 |
| schestowitz | *ed | Aug 21 21:52 |
| schestowitz | so 1 in about 200 of those selected for testing come out positive | Aug 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | I guess uk can bring down deaths to zero soon | Aug 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | then I don't imagine demand or vaccines would be high anymore | Aug 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | it's not like we're planning to pack football stadiums any time soon anyway... | Aug 21 21:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: some sites get sweaty below the neck over our articles | Aug 21 21:58 |
| schestowitz | not because they're wrong | Aug 21 21:58 |
| schestowitz | but not convenient | Aug 21 21:58 |
| schestowitz | the IBM, Microsoft, Gates stuff | Aug 21 21:58 |
| schestowitz | not convenient to the common lies | Aug 21 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Worldometer says that after 3 weeks of inconsistent reporting between half a dozen Texas counties and their state health department, they changed Texas to go with the state's accounting, which counts probable deaths. | Aug 21 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And more than 1,000 deaths were added from half a dozen Texas counties by that measure. | Aug 21 22:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If Florida was counting probable deaths, you'd add over 3,000 based on what I've seen in other states that switched to the CDC guidelines. | Aug 21 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Truth is, we're probably at 200,000 already, or more, even though officially it's at 179,000 right now. | Aug 21 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many red states are doing everything they can to suppress what a horrible job they've done with the virus. It's cheaper for Republicans to change the meaning of what a COVID death is than try to contain their outbreaks. | Aug 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | true | Aug 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | a lot easier, not just cheaper, too | Aug 21 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be attributed to stupidity. True to form, pretty much all the government and party officials who have gotten sick from COVID or died have been Republicans. | Aug 21 22:07 |
| schestowitz | can dead people vote? | Aug 21 22:08 |
| schestowitz | not a trick question | Aug 21 22:08 |
| schestowitz | with trump everything is possible | Aug 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | dejoy is just a little clown show | Aug 21 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The funny part here is that Republicans spent so many years passing Voter ID laws that they might run into a problem if someone thought to stuff the ballot box with dead voters who came back to life to support Trump. | Aug 21 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing I have to do in Illinois to vote is sign a form. My signature is on file with the County Clerk and they electronically match it, and the ballot must arrive in a sealed envelope inside of an outer envelope. The inner envelope has a unique barcode on it, and another place I have to sign where my signature will be compared with the one on file. | Aug 21 22:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Truth is that it would be almost impossible to put very many fake ballots into the box even though I don't have to show them ID. | Aug 21 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, the severity of the crime of showing up multiple times and claiming to be different people means that there's no incentive for me to even risk doing it. | Aug 21 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 20 years in prison is not even worth the risk of adding another ballot to the box. | Aug 21 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could request a ballot for some other registered voter, but where would I send it? | Aug 21 22:25 |
| schestowitz | can't do elections right in 2020... | Aug 21 22:25 |
| schestowitz | wow | Aug 21 22:25 |
| schestowitz | could be done ages ago | Aug 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To the address I live at? Bad idea. To the PO Box? MY PO BOX? The one where they probably wouldn't deliver it since they know who is allowed to get mail? | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a simple task | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | x people vote | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | one person, one choice | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | no ranked voting | Aug 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's accusations about mail voting being rife with fraud are huge lies. HUGE even for him. | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | verify each person is unique | Aug 21 22:26 |
| schestowitz | the specs are so simple | Aug 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I suppose I could sign up to be an election judge. | Aug 21 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Truth be told, I could use some extra money. | Aug 21 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/21/fox-news-joe-biden-donald-trump | Aug 21 22:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Trouble for Trump as Fox News praises 'enormously effective' Biden speech | US news | The Guardian | Aug 21 22:28 | |
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| schestowitz | no homage to QAnon in the speech? | Aug 21 22:32 |
| schestowitz | Then that would not impress Carl & Madame | Aug 21 22:32 |
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| kingoffrance | Pence told CNN: “We think there is a miracle around the corner.” | Aug 21 22:36 |
| schestowitz | rapture? | Aug 21 22:36 |
| kingoffrance | they bill it that way, i dont think they actually believe it themselves | Aug 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | COVID loves Rapture | Aug 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | and it loves COVID back | Aug 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | it's "God's plan" | Aug 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | "in mysterious ways" | Aug 21 22:37 |
| schestowitz | like ventilators and stuff | Aug 21 22:37 |
| kingoffrance | well they denied it all at first | Aug 21 22:38 |
| kingoffrance | so its a strange spin | Aug 21 22:38 |
| kingoffrance | not beyond them | Aug 21 22:38 |
| kingoffrance | hoax -> blame china -> god meant to do that | Aug 21 22:39 |
| kingoffrance | the progression | Aug 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz | God is everywhere | Aug 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz | God is everything | Aug 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz | God is COVID | Aug 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Down on your knees | Aug 21 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Zod COVID | Aug 21 22:40 |
| schestowitz | lick it | Aug 21 22:40 |
| kingoffrance | im sure somewhere they debated "blame democrats" "blame china" ... | Aug 21 22:42 |
| kingoffrance | that was the "safe" choice im sure | Aug 21 22:42 |
| kingoffrance | because you know they would if they could | Aug 21 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | how about... | Aug 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz | blame "chinese democrats"? | Aug 21 22:45 |
| schestowitz | or "chinese democratic hoax"? | Aug 21 22:45 |
| kingoffrance | well its a republic obviously :) | Aug 21 22:46 |
| kingoffrance | people republic | Aug 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz | People's Repugnant CHina | Aug 21 22:46 |
| schestowitz | aka PRC | Aug 21 22:46 |
| kingoffrance | i guess its strange when the propaganda you want to imitate is no longer fashionable | Aug 21 22:49 |
| kingoffrance | if they were doing it nowadays theyd surely be a democracy | Aug 21 22:49 |
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| kingoffrance | its like that: https://8325.org/haiku/ You step in the stream, | Aug 21 22:54 |
| kingoffrance | But the water has moved on | Aug 21 22:54 |
| kingoffrance | The site is not here. | Aug 21 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8325.org | NetPositive error messages | Aug 21 22:54 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I just wrote a letter to the mayor. | Aug 21 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I vote! They'll never check..... I pay taxes! They'll never check." -Al Bundy | Aug 21 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Now you listen here. I voted for Mayor........McCheese!" | Aug 21 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I read on Wikipedia that they did a German adaptation, but it was just a direct translation of the scripts and replacing some references that only Americans get here and there. | Aug 21 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It flopped. | Aug 21 22:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It spawned a lot of spin offs in other countries, but none of them lasted 10 years. | Aug 21 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | [22:57] <DaemonFC[m]> "Now you listen here. I voted for Mayor........McCheese!" | Aug 21 23:07 |
| schestowitz | real name? | Aug 21 23:07 |
| schestowitz | or from Bundy? | Aug 21 23:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bundy. | Aug 21 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Ed Oneal | Aug 21 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Didn't know who the mayor was when he called city hall. | Aug 21 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mayor McCheese was a McDonaldLand character. | Aug 21 23:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | McDonalds committed copyright infringement. | Aug 21 23:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They based all of the McDonaldLand stuff on something else and got sued and ended up paying a lot of money. | Aug 21 23:09 |
| schestowitz | ha | Aug 21 23:09 |
| schestowitz | trumpland deaths at over 1k deaths again despite the manipulations | Aug 21 23:09 |
| schestowitz | higher than india and brazil | Aug 21 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I've had Mandy wearing two masks just like I do. | Aug 21 23:10 |
| schestowitz | india now second in the world for number of tests | Aug 21 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Several of the other employees at Walmart have had COVID-19, but he hasn't. | Aug 21 23:10 |
| schestowitz | india doing 800k tests a dat | Aug 21 23:10 |
| schestowitz | *day | Aug 21 23:10 |
| schestowitz | more than trumpland does | Aug 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I send him to work with the masks and a full bottle of hand sanitizer and tell him to use it every time he touches something that other people have touched. | Aug 21 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only cost of overusing hand sanitizer is buying more hand sanitizer. | Aug 21 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have it in stock in good amounts again. | Aug 21 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cost of forgetting to use it just once might be "on a ventilator with 50/50 odds of living. | Aug 21 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, err on the side of using too much hand sanitizer. | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | and in the uS medical bills | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | i.e. likely bankruptcy | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | and scarred lungs | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | aside from debt | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: all the public places here have sanitiser | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | shops, eateries | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | we use it on the way in and out | Aug 21 23:13 |
| schestowitz | so no need to carry our own much | Aug 21 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US death toll in April was horrific, I think, because there were no mask mandates yet and there wasn't any hand sanitizer at the store. | Aug 21 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's still not great, but less than half what it was per day then. | Aug 21 23:14 |
| schestowitz | huuurd immpunity | Aug 21 23:15 |
| schestowitz | brb coffee | Aug 21 23:15 |
| schestowitz | i work at 1am | Aug 21 23:15 |
| schestowitz | 3 days in a row, maybe 4 | Aug 21 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people recovering might be partially why it's slowed down a bit as far as the deaths. | Aug 21 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Level of exposure seems to be an important factor. | Aug 21 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In how likely it is to become really bad. | Aug 21 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why Bill Gates played Captain Obvious again and said that the vaccine should go to healthcare workers first. | Aug 21 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1. They're most likely to be exposed to it the most. DUH | Aug 21 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2. We don't want staff at the hospital transmitting it to patients who didn't have it before. | Aug 21 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Gates needs the disraction right now | Aug 21 23:21 |
| schestowitz | we need those court docs | Aug 21 23:21 |
| schestowitz | he has been doing this since last year | Aug 21 23:23 |
| schestowitz | the whole epstein chaos | Aug 21 23:23 |
| schestowitz | he wants people to talk about him in relation to something else | Aug 21 23:24 |
| schestowitz | but people keep coming back to the epstein thing | Aug 21 23:24 |
| schestowitz | so he's blocking comments now | Aug 21 23:24 |
| schestowitz | and retreats from questions about it | Aug 21 23:24 |
| schestowitz | epstein and gates both play/act like science experts | Aug 21 23:25 |
| schestowitz | neither of them IS one... | Aug 21 23:25 |
| schestowitz | they just use that "whitecoat syndrome" | Aug 21 23:25 |
| schestowitz | and bribe faculties | Aug 21 23:25 |
| schestowitz | like the ones gates never graduated from | Aug 21 23:26 |
| schestowitz | to sort of associate in the public mind their image with science | Aug 21 23:26 |
| schestowitz | one external cd of jones contained lots of known CP | Aug 21 23:27 |
| schestowitz | based on the docs from ncmac | Aug 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz | but the filenames do not say much | Aug 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz | *ncmec | Aug 21 23:28 |
| schestowitz | the pissing stuff comes from a CD also | Aug 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz | those are external, maybe imported/exported | Aug 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz | we don't know where from/to | Aug 21 23:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Files\5\wolfspread.jpg | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Files\5\wong (2).jpg | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | Files\5\wong.jpg | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: assuming he leaves nearby | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | can you search for CP cases on him? | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | to see if he too was chased down? | Aug 21 23:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz | Files\2\asnb16jackin wong.jpg | Aug 21 23:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 21 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Asian Boy 16 Jacking Wong.... | Aug 21 23:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's suspicious. | Aug 21 23:38 |
| schestowitz | wang means dick | Aug 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | urban sland | Aug 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | slang | Aug 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | not sure about "Wong" | Aug 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | which is a very common name | Aug 21 23:39 |
| schestowitz | if there's a case on David Wong too, then we should FOIA it | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | that can give more clues | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | re potential partner in crime | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | or... | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | you could send email to that gmail addreess | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | which I doubt would still work | Aug 21 23:42 |
| schestowitz | and might not get you a reply, either | Aug 21 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If someone ever did email me something inappropriate I'd probably delete it immediately followed by the entire account. | Aug 21 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That raises a defense to state charges where I live. | Aug 21 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Besides, Google probably doesn't retain data forever when an account gets deleted. But who knows. | Aug 21 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook claims they get rid of it after 6 months. | Aug 21 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you don't delete the account and the state goes looking for it at some point, it will definitely be there. | Aug 21 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Again, it's not just how many people the virus kills, going back to that. | Aug 21 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It almost always kills old people, which exit polls show were the only ones supporting Trump more often than not. | Aug 21 23:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not good news for him even at the "It's directly killing his base." level. | Aug 21 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw a poll fly by this morning that was interesting. | Aug 21 23:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 9% of the people who voted Trump in 2016 say they'll vote for Biden now, compared to just 4% who voted for Hillary Clinton who say Trump now. | Aug 21 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But where it gets interesting is that Biden has an 11 point lead over Trump in people who say they voted for a third party in 2016 but are going to vote for Biden or Trump now. | Aug 21 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a 20 point lead in people who didn't vote then and say they will now. | Aug 21 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not great news for Trump that he doesn't even come close in any category and that he's managed to piss of a lot of marginal voters, who say they'll vote now and for Biden. | Aug 21 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that he's lost more than double the percentage of his own base than the Democrats have of theirs. | Aug 21 23:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just don't see how Trump could win an election with numbers this bad. | Aug 21 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is almost where we were at in 2008. | Aug 21 23:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Clinton's lead was never as high as Biden's has been over Trump at any point, and by election day it had evaporated to within the margin of polling error. | Aug 21 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She did come out ahead in the total vote, but not in the right places. | Aug 21 23:53 |
| kingoffrance | i dunno, theoretically hes playing to his base, but how many ppl left his administration "voluntarily" or otherwise? e.g. bannon. e.g. scaramucci. e.g. cohen. guiliani disappeared i guess, after claiming he has "security" on trump i guess, theres a base, but it appears an ever-shifting base with ever-shifting purity levels | Aug 21 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked my dad what he made of the KOLFAGE and BANNON issue. | Aug 21 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said that they deserve to rot in jail for deceiving people into giving them money and that they're a bunch of bastards. | Aug 21 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says he still wants a wall though. | Aug 21 23:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | My guess is that they're fucked, like I said yesterday. | Aug 21 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 80% of the jury in a Manhattan courtroom will convict them for being Kolfage and Bannon. | Aug 21 23:55 |
| kingoffrance | and how many republicans will "turn" and were just waiting for this moment? | Aug 21 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The other 20% are pissed off that they ripped Republicans off and the small photo op sections of the wall are falling down already. | Aug 21 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a happy coincidence that this happened during the DNC. | Aug 21 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump tried to have a rally in Scranton and it got no media attention at all. | Aug 21 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fox News praised Biden's speech and said it was fantastic. | Aug 21 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anything else got covered it was Bannon and Kolfage and their wall scam. | Aug 21 23:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | This stunt of Trump's to reopen the schools backfired badly. | Aug 21 23:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were open for a week or two, they caused an explosion of COVID-19 everywhere they tried it, and then they had to shut down again anyway, and tell tens of thousands of people to quarantine themselves. | Aug 21 23:59 |
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