●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 21, 2021 ●● ● Oct 21 [00:00] techrights-news Tech ageism = pushing unstable, unproven, dodgy and without assurance of any future stuff (marketing cannot compensate for it) just for the sake of it. Hipsters do this a lot and they destroy companies by building things on top of quicksand like Adobe Trash. [00:00] techrights-news The Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/the-snoring-guardian-listens-while-you-sleep-and-vibrates-when-you-start-to-snore/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [00:00] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/the-snoring-guardian-listens-while-you-sleep-and-vibrates-when-you-start-to-snore/ [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Snoring Guardian listens while you sleep and vibrates when you start to snore | Arduino Blog [00:04] techrights-news A Good DAC Cant Compensate For A Poor Source https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/know-audio-it-all-depends-on-the-dac/ #sound #audio #hardware #dac [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Know Audio: It All Depends On The DAC | Hackaday [00:05] techrights-news Open Hardware/Modding: LiPo, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157023 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: LiPo, Raspberry Pi, and Arduino Projects | Tux Machines [00:06] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157024 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:07] techrights-news The #EPO has become a truly awful place/employer to work for; salary is 2,000 euros for some (despite workplace stress, sometimes relocation to a foreign country) http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/working-for-epo-despots/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/working-for-epo-despots/ [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Living as a Human Resource, Working for Despots | Techrights [00:08] techrights-news The Finnish outpost has long been strategic to the EPO because it can help control the vote of four or more nations; evidence suggests this has not changed http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/helsinki-finland-epo/ #Techrights #fi #finland #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/helsinki-finland-epo/ [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XVIII: Helsinkis Accord | Techrights [00:08] techrights-news oday we examine who has been running the Finnish #patent office and has moreover voted in the #EPO during the ballot on unlawful Strike Regulations http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-baltic-corridor/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-baltic-corridor/ [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cluster-Voting in the European Patent Office/Organisation (When a Country With 1.9 Million Citizens Has the Same Voting Power as a Country With 83.1 Million Citizens) | Techrights [00:09] techrights-news Fervent supporters of #TeamBattistelli or #TeamCampinos (a dark EPO era) are showing their allegiances; #WIPO and #EPO have abused staff similarly over the past decade or so http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/gurry-and-alicja-adamczak/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/gurry-and-alicja-adamczak/ [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Judge a Person Both by His Friends and Enemies | Techrights [00:21] techrights-news I'll always remember #borisnaro as the toilet paper or loo minister. Get elected, use media to cause panic over 'shortages' of toilet paper (self-fulfilling prophecy; not even good for sales as people stop buying it later; oversupply at home and under-use due to perceived scarcity). Tories made #uk seem like a joke to #eu [00:22] techrights-news #techrights turns 15 in about a fortnight from now... [00:23] techrights-news Mark #Zuckerberg to be named in major #privacy lawsuit - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech https://www.protocol.com/mark-zuckerberg-dc-privacy-lawsuit #protocol | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mark Zuckerberg to be named in major privacy lawsuit - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:29] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157025 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:32] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157026 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:33] techrights-news Links 21/10/2021: #PostgreSQL #JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/maui-report/ #Techrights #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/maui-report/ [00:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2021: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report | Techrights [00:36] techrights-news #spam disguised as 'article'. Shame on #unixmen for feeding cheaters https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/ [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/ ) [00:36] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: unixmen.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unixmen.com/how-programming-homework-can-be-done-faster/ [00:37] techrights-news Old: #VeryStableGenius https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mary-trump-book-sats-cheat-brother-died-too-much-and-never-enough-a9606661.html [00:37] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mary-trump-book-sats-cheat-brother-died-too-much-and-never-enough-a9606661.html [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Mary Trump book: President paid someone to take SATs for him and went to movies night his brother died, niece claims | The Independent | The Independent [00:40] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Apparently the local store lost $2.7 million to theft this year. [00:40] DaemonFC That's actually down $200,000 from last year. [00:40] DaemonFC This is why businesses end up closing when they try to operate in places like New Jersey and Illinois where the police don't do shit and the Democrats side with the criminals. [00:40] schestowitz-TR which store? [00:41] schestowitz-TR how big a store? [00:41] schestowitz-TR today I saw fools in aldi using the machines [00:41] schestowitz-TR instead of getting service and protecting people's jobs [00:41] schestowitz-TR I heard these machines allow for much mischief/theft [00:41] schestowitz-TR and that's why some shops decide to pull away from these [00:42] schestowitz-TR like proctoring, detecting of "cheaters" is a gas! [00:42] DaemonFC Adjusted for inflation and sales figures, in Indiana, we lost about 1/10th as much to theft. [00:42] schestowitz-TR I mean, the machines are like polygraph crap... only works if you BELIEVE they work [00:42] DaemonFC Because different demographics and law is enforced. [00:42] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:43] schestowitz-TR poor people still small [00:43] schestowitz-TR rich people steal big [00:43] schestowitz-TR poor people steal food [00:43] DaemonFC The machines do allow for theft. [00:43] schestowitz-TR rich people bribe to steal from taxpayers [00:43] DaemonFC So many people walk past there and pretend they scanned it. [00:43] schestowitz-TR and to legalise tax avoidance [00:43] DaemonFC Then they wait for the receipt checker to bother someone else, and circle around. [00:43] schestowitz-TR it relies on the "honour system" [00:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, This isn't me saying this so here you go. [00:44] schestowitz-TR in places in today's world that's almost nowhere [00:44] DaemonFC Their last loss prevention person, turns out, got fired for saying..... [00:44] schestowitz-TR evem Swiss rail abandoned the honour system [00:44] schestowitz-TR here it works only in some farms in suburbs [00:44] DaemonFC "Only black people come in here and steal. White people don't steal anything." [00:44] DaemonFC And he said it to a black employee! [00:45] schestowitz-TR he could say "poor people" [00:45] schestowitz-TR we know why many people are in the US are poor and black and it's to do with history [00:45] schestowitz-TR cycle of poverty [00:45] DaemonFC I hear they're hiring him back once his 6 months in the doghouse is up though. [00:45] schestowitz-TR so the colour aspect is a convenient surrogate [00:45] *n (~amarsh04@6akgcbxctr6my.irc) has joined #techrights [00:45] schestowitz-TR yes, people who came from slave families are poorert [00:45] DaemonFC They need help more than they can afford to blacklist people forever now. [00:45] schestowitz-TR that much we know [00:46] schestowitz-TR maybe IBM can make those checkout machines [00:46] schestowitz
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    [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Sending EmailsSend them from Linux Terminal? | Linux Journal [00:46] schestowitz oops [00:46] schestowitz https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/ [00:46] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/ [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | IBM Used NYPD Footage to Develop Skin Color Video Search [00:46] DaemonFC IBM loves BLM [00:47] DaemonFC They love them so much there's pretty much zilch in the way of black employees. [00:47] schestowitz-TR IBM: we're not raysist [00:47] DaemonFC Unless they need their toilets cleaned. [00:47] schestowitz-TR we even changed our code [00:47] schestowitz-TR we changed the variable names [00:47] schestowitz-TR no more git -> master [00:47] schestowitz-TR now it's Git->MasterP [00:47] schestowitz-TR homage to the rapper [00:48] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [00:48] schestowitz Zemlin: me no raysist [00:48] schestowitz me do tweets! [00:48] schestowitz f-ing hypocrites [00:48] kingoffrance "In computing, as a common rule of thumb, we ought not mock what's old just for being old. Sometimes older is actually better." [00:49] kingoffrance chesterton's fence is the best thing i ever saw [00:49] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [00:49] kingoffrance if you know *why* something was put there, then replace it. if not, go learn that :) [00:49] schestowitz yeah [00:49] schestowitz sometimes old is more expensive [00:49] kingoffrance there is nothing the matter with ripping out old...but only if you know what you are dying [00:49] kingoffrance *doing [00:49] schestowitz like products that last 30 years, not 5 [00:50] kingoffrance else, you will create more problems, messing with things and unintended consequences, etc. not to mention reinventing the wheel [00:50] schestowitz-TR or lightbulbs that last 5 years, not 5 months [00:50] DaemonFC Anyway, this tells me something. [00:50] schestowitz DaemonFC: Mozilla responded to you https://marksurman.commons.ca/2021/10/20/exploring-better-data-stewardship-at-mozilla/ [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marksurman.commons.ca | Exploring better data stewardship at Mozilla - Mark Surman [00:50] DaemonFC They don't really give a shit that he said it. [00:50] DaemonFC They just want rid of him until nobody there remembers it. [00:50] kingoffrance i would even say: you cant subvert/overthrow something properly without studying it first [00:51] DaemonFC Then they slip him back in. [00:51] kingoffrance else, you will miss your target [00:51] kingoffrance learning the "old" is required IMO to "change" anything [00:51] kingoffrance even if all the "old" is bad, still need to learn it first IMO [00:52] techrights-news #Mozilla fails to admit that #spying on #Firefox users is wrong; now it's misframing the criticism and responds to a straw man https://marksurman.commons.ca/2021/10/20/exploring-better-data-stewardship-at-mozilla/ [00:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, I don't see where he mentioned me at all. [00:52] kingoffrance i am a big fan of "inteceptor pattern" design pattern ...to be transparent, have to learn the "old" [00:53] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:53] techrights-news "Previously, he was a teacher and researcher at Drexel University and even worked at #Mozilla Foundation for a stint. Now, hes the founder of Codepip, a platform that offers games that teach players how to code. Park has made a couple games himself: #Flexbox Froggy and Grid Garden." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/hacks-decoded-thomas-park-founder-of-codepip/ [00:53] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/hacks-decoded-thomas-park-founder-of-codepip/ [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Hacks Decoded: Thomas Park, Founder of Codepip - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [00:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: i was half joking [00:53] kingoffrance theres ways to modernize something piecemeal, compatible, and then theres "move fast and break things" LOL [00:53] schestowitz-TR obviously mozilla knows it gets busted over privacy lies [00:53] schestowitz-TR you're one of many [00:54] schestowitz-TR and they spied on you, you had noticed some things before saying it here [00:54] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, This is the most Dilbert thing ever. [00:54] DaemonFC They have 4 whole pages of nonsense here. [00:55] techrights-news "Ive been working at #Mozilla for six years today. Wow." Unless the management and board get replaced, Mozilla and #firefox will collapse very soon (when #google pulls the trigger) https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2021/10/19/six-year-moziversary/ see http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chuttenblog.wordpress.com | Six-Year Moziversary chuttenblog [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights [00:55] DaemonFC Not once do they address the fact that the only way to protect your data is to not allow them to have it. [00:55] DaemonFC Because once they do, you don't know what they do with it from there. [00:55] *leah has quit (connection closed) [00:55] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [00:55] DaemonFC And the government can force them to violate their privacy policy. [00:56] techrights-news Flailing orgs and companies use #racism to distract from their abuses https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/ http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [00:56] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2018/09/06/nypd-surveillance-camera-skin-tone-search/ [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | IBM Used NYPD Footage to Develop Skin Color Video Search [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [00:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, examples [00:56] schestowitz-TR *exactly [00:57] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [00:57] kingoffrance learn the masters first, then after that do whatever the hell you want -- (paraphrase) salvador dali :) ● Oct 21 [01:00] *n (~amarsh04@xzfcj6javn3ba.irc) has joined #techrights [01:04] techrights-news #Mozilla: Six-Year Moziversary, Thomas Park/Codepip, and Weak Response to Critics of #Firefox #Spyware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157027 [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Six-Year Moziversary, Thomas Park/Codepip, and Weak Response to Critics of Firefox Spyware | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-news Development version: #GIMP 2.99.8 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157028 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development version: GIMP 2.99.8 Released | Tux Machines [01:06] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [01:06] techrights-news #mozilla biz model 2020: hey, we have all those #firefox users. Would you, #SurveillanceCapitalism company, like to prey on them with our assistance? We'll charge a fee per user. Our users are the products we (re)sell to you. "Audiences" http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [01:06] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: in a nutshell ^ [01:07] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157029 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:10] techrights-news Are We Anti Cheat Yet?: #Valve Has A Plan - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nshZ1Wu3kgo #video #invidious #games [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Are We Anti Cheat Yet?: Valve Has A Plan - Invidious [01:10] techrights-news #FLOSSWeekly 652: Faces of #freesw - Peter Adams https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/652 [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Faces of Open Source [01:12] techrights-news #microsoft is shipping #malware and a Microsoft partner, #Sonatype , blames the recipients https://blog.sonatype.com/newly-found-npm-malware-mines-cryptocurrency-on-windows-linux-macos-devices go shill #azure , Sonatype... they could use your help. Losses and #layoffs [01:12] -altlink_e54/#techrights- Cloudflare: sonatype.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.sonatype.com/newly-found-npm-malware-mines-cryptocurrency-on-windows-linux-macos-devices [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sonatype.com | Newly Found npm Malware Mines Cryptocurrency on Windows, Linux, macOS Devices [01:13] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:14] *altlink_e54 has quit (connection closed) [01:14] *altlink_19b (~altlink_19b@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:14] techrights-news "Update on what happened across the #GNOME project in the week from October 01 to October 08." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2021/10/twig-13/ #gnu #linux [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #13 It begins This Week in GNOME [01:15] techrights-news "Seriously! For a whopping five-hours-plus, people read news,, says Niemanlab. As in reading news by going straight to the websites of news outlets, without all the filtering, noise and profiling that is the hallmark of those platforms." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/facebook-down-gave-people-a-glimp-of-a-better-world/ [01:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Facebook down gave people a glimp of a better world | Stop at Zona-M [01:16] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:17] techrights-news If you use flimsy buzzwords like "Internet of Things (IoT)" then maybe you don't deserve a career. #buzzwords don't make up for actual understanding of basic concepts. Companies that hire based on #marketing lingo aren't worth working for, either. They'll drown in #debt and lies. https://www.fosslife.org/top-skills-grow-your-career-iot [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Top Skills to Grow Your Career in IoT [01:17] *n (~amarsh04@xfr4khk494c5c.irc) has joined #techrights [01:18] techrights-news And BTW, #zdnet is NOT a news site! It's a marketing, propaganda and deception site thinly disguised as reporting. #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [01:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [01:19] techrights-news #Docker and #Fedora 35 https://fedoramagazine.org/docker-and-fedora-35/ #redhat #ibm [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Docker and Fedora 35 - Fedora Magazine [01:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.55 swarm size (avg): 259.48 [01:20] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:21] *n (~amarsh04@ybg79fr2nuaas.irc) has joined #techrights [01:22] techrights-news Quit Hunching Over Your Screen With A Little Robotic Help | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/quit-hunching-over-your-screen-with-a-little-robotic-help/ #Arduino project. #deletegithub though. It's #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quit Hunching Over Your Screen With A Little Robotic Help | Hackaday [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [01:23] techrights-news "I wonder if PJ still has that red dress, and whether it's time for it yet. PJ, if you're listening, I hope you're doing well." #groklaw #novell #ibm #sco https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/over [01:23] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: freeforums.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/393/over [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grokthelaw.freeforums.net | Is it - over? | GroktheLaw [01:25] techrights-news Intel has one again outsourced a project, this time ControlFlag, to Microsoft ProprietarySoftware [01:25] techrights-news #Intel has once again outsourced a project, this time #ControlFlag , to #Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware ... see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [01:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [01:26] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:26] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:27] techrights-news Building A Hammer Powered By Gunpowder | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/building-a-hammer-powered-by-gunpowder/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building A Hammer Powered By Gunpowder | Hackaday [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:28] techrights-news FSF: Pumpkins, markets, and one bad #Apple http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157030 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachines [01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pumpkins, markets, and one bad Apple | Tux Machines [01:29] techrights-news AMD GPU Driver Looks To Make Use Of Intel's New Buddy Allocator Code In The Linux Kernel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Intel-Buddy-Allocator #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [01:29] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Intel-Buddy-Allocator [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD GPU Driver Looks To Make Use Of Intel's New Buddy Allocator Code In The Linux Kernel - Phoronix [01:30] techrights-news #NVIDIA will #deletegithub if it cares about #freesw https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-CUDA-11.5 sending things to #github helps #proprietarySoftware and harms our cause http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [01:30] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-CUDA-11.5 [01:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CUDA-Python Reaches "GA" With NVIDIA CUDA 11.5 Release, __int128 Preview - Phoronix [01:32] techrights-news Impish Indri Ubuntu-fr t-shirt http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31460 [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [01:34] techrights-news This Arduino radio looks like something from 100 years ago | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/this-arduino-radio-looks-like-something-from-100-years-ago/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [01:34] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/20/this-arduino-radio-looks-like-something-from-100-years-ago/ [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino radio looks like something from 100 years ago | Arduino Blog [01:34] techrights-news #Plasma 5.23 available for Kubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) in backports PPA http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157031 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.23 available for Kubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) in backports PPA | Tux Machines [01:37] techrights-news #ZDNet has resorted to shamelessly quoting and relaying talking points from #Microsoft -connected operatives, basically painting #Windows with #backdoors as "OK" and #Linux guilty for things that have nothing to do with Linux. #boycottzdnet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [01:38] techrights-news Labyrinthian Circuit Sculpture Evokes Moods With Sound And Light | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/labyrinthian-circuit-sculpture-evokes-moods-with-sound-and-light/ #hackaday [01:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Labyrinthian Circuit Sculpture Evokes Moods With Sound And Light | Hackaday [01:41] techrights-news Utterly foolish and self-harming when they outsource this to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware that actively attacks IDE's that are not Microsoft's. #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Eclipse-OpenJ9-v0.29 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [01:41] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Eclipse-OpenJ9-v0.29 [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Eclipse OpenJ9 0.29 Released With Full AArch64 Linux Support, More Mature JITServer Tech - Phoronix [01:42] techrights-news "I've just released the first Internet edition of my new book, Adventures with the #GNU #Linux Command Line. This 250+ page volume is a sequel/supplement to The GNU/Linux Command Line (TLCL)." http://lcorg.blogspot.com/2021/10/adventures-with-linux-command-line.html [01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lcorg.blogspot.com | LinuxCommand.org: Tips, News And Rants: Adventures with the Linux Command Line, First Internet Edition [01:43] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:43] *techrights_guest|36 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:43] *mib_nq8rh2 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:44] *n (~amarsh04@c2eu68zgz5v2c.irc) has joined #techrights [01:48] *n has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:50] *n (~amarsh04@eganakf2bu9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:53] techrights-news New #Arduino Projects/Showcase http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157032 #TuxMachines [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Arduino Projects/Showcase | Tux Machines [01:53] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/t-mobile-home-internet-swaps-out-my-nokia-trash-can-then-two-days-later-says-i-didnt-return-it-and-theyll-bill-me-almost-400/ [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | T-Mobile Home Internet swaps out my Nokia Trash Can, then two days later says I didnt return it and theyll bill me almost $400. BaronHK's Rants [01:54] schestowitz-TR wow [01:54] schestowitz-TR 400? [01:54] schestowitz-TR the router is just 43 pounds here [01:54] DaemonFC Yeah, for that piece of junk. [01:54] schestowitz-TR wth? [01:54] schestowitz-TR is it made of sterling silver?\ [01:55] DaemonFC Plastic and shit. [01:56] schestowitz-TR did you..? [01:56] schestowitz-TR never mind [01:56] schestowitz-TR you did not poop in it [01:56] DaemonFC LOL [01:56] schestowitz-TR btw [01:56] schestowitz-TR real story [01:56] DaemonFC Scoop everything out and shit in it. [01:56] schestowitz-TR they sent me one router [01:56] DaemonFC Screw it back together. [01:56] DaemonFC Return it. [01:56] schestowitz-TR that I did not needa [01:56] schestowitz-TR and TWO bags to return that in [01:57] schestowitz-TR because their service was so bad [01:57] schestowitz-TR it's a prepaid postage bag [01:57] DaemonFC Some drone scans it in, credits my account. [01:57] schestowitz-TR I could send back the second with poo in it [01:57] schestowitz-TR but it would lead to not very good outcomes [01:57] DaemonFC The next customer really does get a piece of shit. [01:57] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/22/canceling-bt/ [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 27 Minutes to Cancel BT Order (Even Though I Was Very Clear It Needs to be Done as Soon as Possible), But Still Not Done on Compensation [01:58] DaemonFC It looks like a generic return label that's preauthorized. [01:58] DaemonFC I might be able to shit in a box and send it to them. [01:58] schestowitz-TR it was very much like that "cancel AOL" thing [01:58] schestowitz-TR you have to real fight with them on the phone to obey your request [01:58] DaemonFC "Oh, I'm sorry. My doctor ordered Cologuard. I get confused sometimes." [01:59] DaemonFC They said I could take it to a store with the label printed out. [01:59] DaemonFC Nah, I'll find a UPS center. [01:59] techrights-news [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/ #epo #crime #europe #corruption #bribery [01:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping | Techrights [01:59] DaemonFC The store assholes would probably just lose it somewhere. ● Oct 21 [02:00] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was cracking this woman in the Philippines up over the phone. [02:00] AdmFubar what's in a name? https://www.firstpost.com/tech/auto-tech/revolt-rv400-electric-motorcycle-to-soon-be-available-in-70-cities-across-india-sales-resume-on-21-october-10064811.html [02:00] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: firstpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.firstpost.com/tech/auto-tech/revolt-rv400-electric-motorcycle-to-soon-be-available-in-70-cities-across-india-sales-resume-on-21-october-10064811.html [02:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Revolt RV400 electric motorcycle to soon be available in 70 cities across India, sales resume on 21 October- Technology News, Firstpost [02:01] schestowitz-TR renault? [02:02] DaemonFC I said, "The people at Sprint were never as rude to me as the people in the T-Mobile stores." She goes, "I'm sorry to hear that.". I said, "Yeah, one of them even said 'Well you should have gotten an Apple phone, I can go to the Apple store and get them to fix my phone!'. *mocks the guy* Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah Apple store la de dah! I don't want a damned iPhone.". [02:02] DaemonFC Pretentious hipster. [02:03] schestowitz-TR apple, made in china [02:03] schestowitz-TR chinese sweashops [02:03] schestowitz-TR let me tell you something [02:03] schestowitz-TR buying apple is less ethical than android for many reasons, but one is [02:03] schestowitz-TR the profit margins compared to the wage slaves' returns [02:04] schestowitz-TR apple could very well pay a decent salary to manufacturers [02:04] DaemonFC Pretty much. It all goes to the top. Apple execs. [02:04] schestowitz-TR but the relative (%) return to workers is zilch [02:04] DaemonFC Meanwhile, those people on the factory floor with the suicide nets get not one penny more than the ones making Androids. [02:04] schestowitz-TR tell the lady, I've never met someone so rude in my life except duterte with his rape "jokes" [02:06] DaemonFC Yeah, MARISOL and family voting for a guy who jokes about raping a dead woman's body. [02:06] DaemonFC I mean Jesus fuck. [02:07] DaemonFC Joking about where to get in line while they raped her to death. [02:08] DaemonFC And they keep the people there so close to illiteracy, I think, that it just sails over them or something. [02:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I saw a gas station today that said now hiring cashiers, must speak English and Spanish. [02:09] DaemonFC I said, "Well, that's the last time I fill up my car there.". [02:10] DaemonFC The state, I guess, can do any rotten nasty thing it wants, and I have no control over that. [02:10] DaemonFC But this country is an English-speaking country. [02:11] DaemonFC Half of them come here illegally and expect us to adapt to them. [02:11] DaemonFC And I'm just not going to do it. [02:11] DaemonFC Even if I understood Spanish, I wouldn't speak to them in it. [02:12] *Ariadne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:12] DaemonFC If they're having trouble, they need to get some books on tape about learning English from down at the library. [02:12] DaemonFC It's bad enough that half the US citizens here are such degenerates that they can barely speak English. [02:13] *Ariadne (~sid506515@f7nyrize3ti94.irc) has joined #techrights [02:13] schestowitz I've just drafted our 15th anniversary post [02:13] schestowitz Creation Date: 2006-11-07T14:21:00.00Z [02:13] *oarion7 (ryan@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [02:13] schestowitz 17 more days [02:14] DaemonFC I was talking about this with mom the other day. [02:14] DaemonFC I was talking about things that drive me nuts. [02:14] schestowitz-TR in canada they speak french [02:14] schestowitz-TR you need to learn some history, ryan [02:14] schestowitz-TR not just english [02:15] DaemonFC And I was talking about how there's a "prole English" now, or maybe even that's too good of a term for it. [02:15] DaemonFC Low English. [02:15] schestowitz-TR angola saxons were not first to colonise the territory [02:15] DaemonFC Very Low English. [02:15] schestowitz-TR anyway.. [02:15] schestowitz-TR back on topic [02:15] DaemonFC Oh, these people make me want to punch them. [02:15] schestowitz-TR so tmobile is sending the call centeres to low-wage places [02:15] DaemonFC Pretty much. [02:15] schestowitz-TR and tghen charges $400 for a piece of plastic or tin [02:16] schestowitz-TR likely made by people who get paid $2 an hour [02:16] schestowitz-TR that's "Late Stage Capitalism" [02:16] schestowitz-TR your dad worked in RCA or something [02:16] schestowitz-TR back then the jobs were decent [02:16] schestowitz-TR no safety nets needed [02:16] DaemonFC I told the lady "I apologize for getting salty with you. I realize you're a customer service person and the people running this company are crooked as hell.". [02:16] schestowitz-TR one person could work to feed a family of 5 [02:16] DaemonFC "But none of them are listening to me." [02:16] schestowitz-TR and have sick leave, 6 holidays etc. [02:17] DaemonFC your dad worked in RCA or something [02:17] DaemonFC Yeah, for over 30 years. [02:17] schestowitz https://www.propublica.org/article/not-allowed-to-hang-up-the-harsh-reality-of-working-in-customer-service [02:17] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/not-allowed-to-hang-up-the-harsh-reality-of-working-in-customer-service [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Were Not Allowed to Hang Up: The Harsh Reality of Working in Customer Service ProPublica [02:17] schestowitz (recent) [02:17] DaemonFC Could have held on a little longer had he not dragged some guy from work to his divorce hearing to see mom come in with bags of porn. [02:17] DaemonFC That was a mistake. [02:18] DaemonFC You could have almost bought a car with all of the porn. [02:18] DaemonFC If you looked at the price they sold it for, or what he paid to rent it and copy it onto tapes. [02:19] DaemonFC There's probably at least $20,000. [02:19] schestowitz porn is risky [02:19] DaemonFC You could buy a nice car for $20,000 back then. [02:19] schestowitz because spies like to "get" people for it [02:19] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [02:19] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [02:19] DaemonFC Yeah, John would install sex mods into his video games. [02:20] schestowitz e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25118156 [02:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | NSA 'planned to discredit radicals over web-porn use' - BBC News [02:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 57.20 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [02:20] schestowitz https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/martin-luther-king-rape-fbi-tapes-video-mlk-laugh-files-a8932206.html [02:20] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/martin-luther-king-rape-fbi-tapes-video-mlk-laugh-files-a8932206.html [02:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Martin Luther King Jr watched and laughed as woman was raped, secret FBI recordings allege | The Independent | The Independent [02:20] schestowitz https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.html [02:20] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7071713/FBI-tapes-Martin-Luther-King-Jr-40-affairs-laughed-friend-raped-parishioner.html [02:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | FBI tapes show Martin Luther King Jr had 40 affairs and 'laughed' as friend raped parishioner | Daily Mail Online [02:21] schestowitz That's CIA [02:21] schestowitz and now about pr0n [02:21] schestowitz but using sex to discredit people is common [02:21] DaemonFC I came into his room one day and he was jerking it to some Skyrim mod where a Khajiit and an Orc were fucking. [02:21] DaemonFC He is....sick. [02:21] schestowitz there's one credit that thinks he's a person who trolls people by interjecting sex into IRC channels [02:21] schestowitz *cretin [02:22] DaemonFC I doubt it's that common. [02:22] DaemonFC People are so depraved these days that nothing shocks them. [02:22] schestowitz actually [02:22] schestowitz there was a famous old video [02:22] schestowitz where someone gets caught playing with a video game [02:22] schestowitz and I don't mean playing the video game [02:22] schestowitz that clip was popular about 20 years ago [02:23] DaemonFC I like the idea of those sex robots in a way. It'll be liberating for men. [02:23] schestowitz before FB and "social" media [02:23] *oarion7 has quit (Client Quit) [02:23] DaemonFC One of the ways women control men is sex. [02:23] DaemonFC Men go without for a while, woman makes an unreasonable request tied to it. [02:23] DaemonFC Done and done. [02:23] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [02:24] schestowitz-TR anyway, topic change [02:24] schestowitz-TR trolls like to use "sex" in IRC [02:24] DaemonFC Sexless marriage? Eventually the other one breaks down and cheats. [02:24] schestowitz-TR I'm going to get some sleep soon [02:25] AdmFubar https://linuxtechlab.com/tesla-publishes-autopilot-source-code-to-comply-with-the-gpl/ [02:25] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxtechlab.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxtechlab.com/tesla-publishes-autopilot-source-code-to-comply-with-the-gpl/ [02:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tesla publishes Autopilot source code to comply with the GPL - LinuxTechLab [02:25] schestowitz AdmFubar: old news? [02:26] DaemonFC schestowitz, I have a review of LibreWolf almsot ready. [02:26] DaemonFC It's not terribly positive, but it's hopeful. [02:27] techrights-news tomorrow [02:27] DaemonFC Overall, it's glitchy and there were some obvious mistakes, and they left the advertisement to install DRM in it. [02:27] techrights-news #RMS gives his (I think) last talk in #europe tomorrow in #Montpellier #France https://stallman.org/talks.html [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman [02:27] DaemonFC But it was still a lot better than Firefox with all of this "telemetry" and keylogging. [02:27] Seaduck- That Tesla article is about 80% factually wrong about licensing. [02:27] schestowitz-TR it is a young project [02:27] schestowitz-TR months old, I think [02:28] schestowitz-TR they moved off github, I hope [02:28] schestowitz-TR Seaduck-: yes, it's an awful site [02:28] schestowitz-TR and that author is worse [02:28] schestowitz-TR he has been on my rss feeds, not because the posts are good [02:28] schestowitz-TR some are spam [02:28] DaemonFC Lots of porn on Reddit. [02:29] DaemonFC Well, think about it. What else are peopel that age going to do? McDonalds? [02:29] DaemonFC You can make more money in one tip than one hour at a job. [02:29] DaemonFC Then guess how many of them declare taxes on it. [02:31] techrights-news Upcoming Linux PCIe Driver To Fully Utilize M1 Mac Mini Ports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157022#comment-31461 [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Hardware Support in Linux | Tux Machines [02:31] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/LibreWolf/comments/q64xzu/librewolf_wont_run_and_complains_about_missing/ [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Librewolf won't run and complains about missing dll's : LibreWolf [02:31] DaemonFC Uses Windows 10....and is worried about what Firefox is going to snoop on. [02:32] schestowitz-TR DLL [02:32] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: wah! my skateboard doesn't work [02:32] schestowitz-TR I put it on my rollerblades [02:34] techrights-news Discussion about why #mozilla is basically doomed and #google gets to pull the trigger http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.html#tOct%2020%2018:58:01 [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:35] DaemonFC I don't know if LibreWolf could go on after Mozilla collapses. [02:35] techrights-news 2020: $8 for a hotdog http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.html#tOct%2020%2020:53:19 [02:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:35] DaemonFC Maybe it won't collapse and they can just pull the spyware and its hooks out for years. [02:36] schestowitz-TR Apache Firefox [02:36] schestowitz-TR shelved there [02:36] schestowitz-TR while a libreoffice-like project carries on [02:36] schestowitz-TR for those who still need the www [02:36] schestowitz-TR and do not want the google/monopoly stuff [02:36] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-201021.txt [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:37] DaemonFC I'm just not sure about Pale Moon. [02:37] DaemonFC I don't know if it's secure or well-maintained. [02:37] Seaduck- Hasn't Mozilla been dead since like 2012 when they stopped supporting external Gecko users? [02:37] schestowitz-TR seamonkey [02:37] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-201021.txt [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:38] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-201021.txt [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-201021.txt [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 [02:41] DaemonFC Seamonkey is not in good shape. [02:41] DaemonFC "Frank Herbert wanted a harsh-sounding name for the antagonistic family opposing House Atreides in Dune. He came across the name "Hrknen" in a California telephone book and thought that it sounded "Soviet", though it is in fact Finnish.[3] In earlier drafts of Dune, the character was called "Valdemar Hoskanner".[4] " [02:41] DaemonFC Heh [02:41] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:41] XRevan86 If anything, that sounds German-ish. [02:43] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C#Russian [02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | - Wiktionary [02:43] AdmFubar probably old news... was catching up on feeds.. [02:49] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) ● Oct 21 [03:01] AdmFubar https://www.notebookcheck.net/Customers-are-left-in-the-dark-Only-vapor-chamber-models-of-the-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-G4-X1-Extreme-G4-offer-full-CPU-performance.573365.0.html [03:01] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Customers-are-left-in-the-dark-Only-vapor-chamber-models-of-the-Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-G4-X1-Extreme-G4-offer-full-CPU-performance.573365.0.html [03:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Customers are left in the dark: Only vapor-chamber models of the Lenovo ThinkPad P1 G4/X1 Extreme G4 offer full CPU performance - NotebookCheck.net News [03:07] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:24] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/free-software-review-trying-out-librewolf-93-as-an-alternative-to-firefox-its-less-annoying-but-theres-still-drm/ [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Free Software Review: Trying out LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Its less annoying, but theres still DRM? BaronHK's Rants ● Oct 21 [04:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 338316 total Total pages: 37796 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 1 weeks 3 days ago [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.53 swarm size (avg): IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 22 GB TotalOut: 7.4 GB [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [04:06] *blitzed has quit (Quit: +++ATH0&D2 NO CARRIER NO CAREER) [04:06] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/fda-oks-mixing-covid-vaccines-backs-moderna-jj-boosters/ [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | FDA OKs mixing COVID vaccines; backs Moderna, J&J boosters | WGN-TV [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot Qme5Me7St6kgikNpzT1KeDRhhmCJJtsLSFQyP8TDyvd8MW [04:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.53 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [04:25] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtml [04:25] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtml [04:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Client-Side Scanning Is An Insecure Nightmare Just Waiting To Be Exploited By Governments | Techdirt [04:36] AdmFubar https://xkcd.com/2531/ [04:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Dark Arts [04:36] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2531/ [04:49] DaemonFC https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=150388 [04:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.debian.net | Debian 11 honnest disussion ( Very positive !! ) - Debian User Forums [04:49] DaemonFC jschenard wrote: 2021-09-30 17:51 [04:49] DaemonFC Debian 11 supports Wayland by default - this is a surprise to me as well. It is well implemented and stable. [04:49] DaemonFC "You obviously didn't try it in KDE..." [04:49] DaemonFC Yep [04:50] DaemonFC "Very good snap support" [04:50] DaemonFC Ugh [04:54] *pizza_delivery (~b9dc66fc@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [04:54] pizza_delivery https://old.reddit.com/r/duckduckgo/comments/q9ckir/duckduckgo_is_lying_to_you/ [04:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | Duckduckgo is lying to you. : duckduckgo [04:54] *pizza_delivery has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) ● Oct 21 [05:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.70 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [05:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:56] kingoffrance "Hasn't Mozilla been dead since like 2012 when they stopped supporting external Gecko users?" well, in another channel active_low (avoid unnecessary highlighting) mentioned gtk-webkit1 ? and a browser? there were a few mozilla things like that, not using kde or gnome, just using the engine IIRC ....they didnt seem to go anywhere, but were seemingly lightweight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galeon there is one, dont recall if that needed [05:56] kingoffrance gnome or not. there were at least one other, that did not need gnome...but never went anywhere [05:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Galeon - Wikipedia [05:57] kingoffrance i know such things existed anyway...i didnt know about mozilla "stopped supporting external Gecko users" [05:58] kingoffrance i mean, that wouldve finished them off i guess [05:58] kingoffrance odds were slim in the first place [05:59] kingoffrance and "firefox" being marketed as "slim" didnt help either perhaps (not saying that is good or bad, just "competition" -- if the official one has a "slim" version, why use an "external" ?) ● Oct 21 [06:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [06:02] kingoffrance i have said before, seamonkey, compiled, disable crap i didnt want, always seemed relatively lightweight to me [06:03] kingoffrance at the time, that was lightweight enough for me, for stuff that didnt work in links 2, dillo, etc. [06:03] kingoffrance so, i didnt at the time see a huge point in those "external" things either, firefox or no. [06:04] kingoffrance nice to have more options, but i didnt think they had the resources behind them to survive [06:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.91 swarm size (avg): 259.46 [06:41] *leah has quit (connection closed) [06:41] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [06:44] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:44] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 21 [07:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.81 swarm size (avg): 259.46 [07:30] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [07:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [07:31] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [07:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [07:32] techrights-news NEWS #YLE OK Lenovo, we need to talk! https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/aland_celebrates_100-year_anniversary_of_demilitarisation/12153151 [07:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-land celebrates 100-year anniversary of demilitarisation | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [07:32] techrights-news NEWS # KyleEMitchell #Licensing #GPL Had Better be a Contract https://writing.kemitchell.com/2021/10/20/SFC-v-Vizio-Complaint.html [07:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writing.kemitchell.com | GPL Had Better be a Contract /dev/lawyer [07:33] techrights-news NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #OpenAccess Open access switch picks up pace in #Australia and New Zealand https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/open-access-switch-picks-pace-inaustralia-and-new-zealand [07:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Open access switch picks up pace inAustralia and New Zealand | Times Higher Education (THE) [07:34] techrights-news NEWS #FreeBSD #bsd sh(1): make it the default shell for the root user https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=d410b585b6f00a26c2de7724d6576a3ea7d548b7 [07:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freebsd.org | src - FreeBSD source tree [07:39] activelow webkit-gtk1.8, qwebkit are both broken, difficult to fix [07:39] techrights-news NEWS #PCWorld #Hardware Even the Raspberry Pi isnt immune to the chip shortage https://www.pcworld.com/article/545749/even-the-raspberry-pi-isnt-immune-to-the-chip-shortage.html [07:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Even the Raspberry Pi isn't immune to the chip shortage | PCWorld [07:41] activelow firefox/mozillla never were leightweight, maybe their phoenix browser, any later wasn't [07:42] schestowitz same thing, just older version/name [07:44] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy Amazon offers up more data to tell third-party sellers which items will be popular https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736658/amazon-product-opportunity-explorer-tool-sellers-amazon-basics-data [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon offers up more data to tell third-party sellers which items will be popular - The Verge [07:44] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Surveillance DC AG adds Facebook's #Zuckerberg to #CambridgeAnalytica suit https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577652-dc-ag-adds-mark-zuckerberg-to-cambridge-analytica-suit [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DC AG adds Facebook's Zuckerberg to Cambridge Analytica suit | TheHill [07:45] techrights-news NEWS #TheEconomist #Surveillance Facebooks rumoured name-change reflects its ambitionsand its weakness https://www.economist.com/business/facebooks-rumoured-name-change-reflects-its-ambitions-and-its-weakness-1/21805755 [07:45] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/facebooks-rumoured-name-change-reflects-its-ambitions-and-its-weakness-1/21805755 [07:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebooks rumoured name-change reflects its ambitionsand its weakness | The Economist [07:46] techrights-news NEWS #ABC #Surveillance #Biden admin backs down on tracking bank accounts with over $600 annual transactions https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-admin-backs-tracking-bank-accounts-600-annual/story?id=80665505 [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Biden admin backs down on tracking bank accounts with over $600 annual transactions - ABC News [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #ITWire #Surveillance ABC iview user data collected through #GoogleAnalytics stored in the US https://itwire.com/open-sauce/abc-iview-user-data-collected-through-google-analytics-stored-in-the-us.html [07:47] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/open-sauce/abc-iview-user-data-collected-through-google-analytics-stored-in-the-us.html [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - ABC iview user data collected through Google Analytics stored in the US [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #ITWire #Surveillance ABC refuses request to rethink #iview data-sharing decision https://itwire.com/strategy/abc-refuses-request-to-rethink-iview-data-sharing-decision.html [07:47] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/strategy/abc-refuses-request-to-rethink-iview-data-sharing-decision.html [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - ABC refuses request to rethink iview data-sharing decision [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #india #china Chinese smartphones driving digital payments adoption in India: PhonePe report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/consumer-tech/chinese-smartphones-driving-digital-payments-adoption-in-india-phonepe-report/87149799 [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | phonepe: Chinese smartphones driving digital payments adoption in India: PhonePe report, IT News, ET CIO [07:58] kingoffrance "firefox/mozillla never were leightweight," yes, but my point was, if you compile yourself, you can eliminate things you dont want. [07:59] kingoffrance and things like that that are large...-Os can be good too ● Oct 21 [08:00] kingoffrance what was firefox? just an alternate "browser only, no suite" ? and then thunderbird [08:00] kingoffrance you could compile seamonkey that way -- "browser only" [08:00] kingoffrance firefox perhaps had some ui changes etc. as well [08:00] schestowitz-TR it was a go at bundling [08:00] schestowitz-TR at some point ftp was also a browser thing [08:01] schestowitz-TR download manager still is [08:01] kingoffrance my understanding firefox also favored extensions [08:01] schestowitz-TR xul [08:01] kingoffrance so theoretically, only install what you need there too [08:01] kingoffrance i dont know how well "extensions" would work with "firefox only" or mozilla/seamonkey ? [08:02] kingoffrance i mean, if one needed extensions, firefox perhaps was better choice [08:02] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Ebay Ebay founder funding #Facebook whistleblower: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577646-ebay-founder-funding-facebook-whistleblower-report [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ebay founder funding Facebook whistleblower: report | TheHill [08:06] techrights-news NEWS #CopenhagenPost #Misinformation Norwegian security services to investigate how reportage of mass killing spun out of control https://cphpost.dk/?p=128888 #Kongsberg [08:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cphpost.dk | Norwegian security services to investigate how reportage of mass killing spun out of control - The Post [08:06] activelow yep, -Os is my default, doesn't change alot [08:06] kingoffrance :) [08:07] kingoffrance i dont know performance wise, but those large codebases, is perhaps a case compiler flags cannot just be dismissed as "ricing" [08:07] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Misinformation #socialcontrolmedia 70 percent of Americans say #Facebook , #Twitter do more harm than good: poll https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577625-70-percent-of-americans-say-facebook-twitter-do-more-harm-than-good-poll [08:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-70 percent of Americans say Facebook, Twitter do more harm than good: poll | TheHill [08:07] kingoffrance * i dont know Os performance wise versus other things [08:07] activelow marginal differences [08:09] activelow depends too on memory alignment issues, among other things, Os is roughly the same as O2 but requires little less memory [08:10] activelow thinking about this, webkit-1.x is essentially the equivalent of Apple Safari Browser from year 2010 [08:13] activelow the source boundle is 8MiB in size, midori is another 2MiB, 10MiB for this. chromium wants a 1500MiB Source bundle. [08:14] kingoffrance i shouldnt say "ricing" i didnt know that was "pejorative", just dont know a better term. [08:14] kingoffrance yak shaving maybe [08:15] gustaf kingoffrance: you haven't seen the classic site "Gentoo is ricing"? [08:15] activelow it is noteworthy too, how difficult it is to compile an older software, 10years later only [08:15] activelow now imagine this, 20years or 30years later. [08:16] kingoffrance thats why i didnt think it was "offensive" -- i know nothing about cars, but car people never used it that way, i only heard people call gentoo that [08:16] gustaf https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Gentoo-is-Rice.html [08:16] kingoffrance lol [08:16] gustaf kingoffrance: haha, same here [08:16] gustaf I think it's a specific US thing [08:16] gustaf and rooted in time too [08:16] kingoffrance yes [08:16] kingoffrance its pushing it a little, but "slang" [08:17] kingoffrance its about the car/person, not any race in particular [08:17] kingoffrance any not even foreign cars per se [08:17] kingoffrance *and [08:17] gustaf in this case yak shaving and ricing converge... [08:17] kingoffrance lol [08:18] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Censorship After lecture is canceled, #freespeech debate roils science academia https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/canceled-lecture-free-speech-debate-roils-science-academia-rcna3105 [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | After lecture is canceled, free speech debate roils science academia [08:18] techrights-news NEWS #Quillette #Censorship #CancelCulture Has a Lot to Answer For https://quillette.com/2021/10/21/cancel-culture-has-a-lot-to-answer-for/ [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quillette.com | Cancel Culture Has a Lot to Answer For [08:19] kingoffrance a "native" person could just as easily "rice out" some "native" car, wouldnt make a difference -- its borderline maybe, but i never heard anyone get offended by it [08:19] kingoffrance i wonder if its on google list of words not to use lol [08:19] schestowitz-TR google? [08:19] kingoffrance they have a list of words not to use [08:19] kingoffrance ghetto is one of them lol [08:19] kingoffrance jank is another lol [08:19] kingoffrance they dont like slang lol [08:19] schestowitz-TR google does not participatre much in that stupid work cull [08:20] schestowitz-TR it has another war on words though [08:20] schestowitz-TR *word cull [08:20] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Censorship #JamesBond Has No Time for #China https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/opinion/james-bond-china.html [08:20] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/16/opinion/james-bond-china.html [08:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | James Bond Has No Time for China - The New York Times [08:21] kingoffrance its not about the person, or the car, its about "these modifications appear fluff/cosmetic" [08:21] gustaf mmm [08:22] techrights-news NEWS #TheTorontoStar Why cant we say woman anymore? https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2021/10/15/why-cant-we-say-woman-anymore.html [08:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Why cant we say woman anymore? | The Star [08:22] gustaf it's trying to emulate the look of a high-performance car [08:22] kingoffrance exactly [08:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.60 swarm size (avg): 259.46 [08:22] gustaf "Without a doubt, Gentoo has set itself apart from every other distro out there. Because it's source-based, it's notorious for its speed. Because of emerge, it's notorious for being simple to maintain." [08:23] gustaf interesting use of "notorious" there [08:23] kingoffrance you could almost say same thing for like retro games, that try to look 8-bit ...but are hundreds of M [08:23] kingoffrance they might even capture the look, but would never run on the original system [08:23] Ariadne schestowitz: Quillette is a blog run by far right commentators which has, among other things, advocated for the erasure of gays and trans people in the UK. are you sure you want to send traffic to their website? [08:24] gustaf "To me, an extra 0.1% performance increase, even if I am only imagining it to be faster, is certainly worth one day a week recompiling all of the latest packages from source code. Even if I do occasionally get my CFLAGS in a muddle! I think I speak for Slashdot when I say that Gentoo is the only sane option for getting the most from your hardware!" [08:24] Ariadne these guys would be bashing free software and everything it represents if they were aware of it [08:24] gustaf Quillette is trash [08:25] gustaf never seen anything there worth reading [08:25] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: someone sent me the link, it is about cancel culture [08:25] schestowitz-TR but I get your point [08:25] schestowitz-TR thanks for the warning [08:26] Ariadne yes they complain about cancel culture because they constantly post blogs that are awful [08:26] Ariadne and rightly get criticized for it [08:26] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:26] schestowitz-TR I will read up on who runs that site [08:26] techrights-news NEWS #ABC #FB #Facebook paying fine to settle US suit on discrimination https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/facebook-paying-fine-settle-us-suit-discrimination-80666481 [08:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Facebook paying fine to settle US suit on discrimination - ABC News [08:27] techrights-news NEWS #CN #china #Tibet is now in the hands of a #CPC leader sanctioned for Xinjiang crimes. https://www.tibetanjournal.com/tibet-is-now-in-the-hands-of-a-cpc-leader-who-has-been-sanctioned-for-human-rights-breaches-in-xinjiang/ [08:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tibetanjournal.com | Tibet is now in the hands of a CPC leader sanctioned for Xinjiang crimes. - Tibetan Journal [08:27] Ariadne we should be careful to not legitimize the publications of our enemies simply because they wrote about a concern that some in the FOSS community have regarding RMS [08:28] activelow i'm not compiling from source for snakeoil benefits from compiler switches [08:28] Ariadne gentoo has some benefit outside of CFLAGS and USE flags [08:28] activelow i am using gentoo because the source-based workflow is relatively comfortable and i can handle complicated issues [08:28] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: we have a list of blacklisted sites [08:28] Ariadne specifically, you do not have to trust a binary supply chain [08:28] schestowitz-TR let me find it... [08:29] Ariadne as you produce your own [08:29] kingoffrance yeah, i didnt even do it for that....just build once every year or so, i would definitely not try to have the latest etc. just liked to disable stuff i didnt like, etc. [08:29] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Links/ [08:29] gustaf that website is ancient activelow [08:30] gustaf don't feel attacked [08:30] gustaf I'm actually impressed Gentoo is still around [08:30] Ariadne that website was created after gentoo masked xmms and told everyone to use audacious instead [08:30] Ariadne and we got a mix of angry and ignorant gentoo users [08:30] techrights-news NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Monopolies New Senate #Antitrust Bill Reaction, Charter Making Executive Changes, T-Mobile, Verizon Top Charts https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/10/new-senate-antitrust-bill-reaction-charter-making-executive-changes-t-mobile-verizon-top-charts/ [08:30] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/10/new-senate-antitrust-bill-reaction-charter-making-executive-changes-t-mobile-verizon-top-charts/ [08:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | New Senate Antitrust Bill Reaction, Charter Making Executive Changes, T-Mobile, Verizon Top Charts : Broadband Breakfast [08:30] Ariadne bothering us [08:30] kingoffrance "one day a week recompiling all of the latest packages " that was not me, once week a year, then dont touch lol [08:31] kingoffrance *one [08:31] activelow i don't feel offended at all [08:31] techrights-news NEWS #USSenate #Monopolies Support Builds for Bipartisan Legislation From Klobuchar, Grassley, and Colleagues to Rein in Big Tech https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=8A948B18-672E-4BDF-AF39-5195C0979B4A "legislation to restore competition online by establishing commonsense rules of the road for dominant digital platforms" [08:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.klobuchar.senate.gov | Support Builds for Bipartisan Legislation From Klobuchar, Grassley, and Colleagues to Rein in Big Tech - News Releases - U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar [08:31] Ariadne some gentoo user kept joining and writing about how he wanted to kill us for taking away his XMMS [08:31] Ariadne and then we found out he was a diaper furry [08:31] Ariadne it was funny [08:31] gustaf LOL [08:32] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: afaik, xmms was never truly or directly supporting xmms [08:32] schestowitz-TR I mean, pulesaudio [08:32] schestowitz-TR that was when I dumped it [08:32] schestowitz-TR only alsa or oss or some arcane sound systems [08:33] Ariadne ASS: Arcane Sound System [08:33] Ariadne i shall make it happen [08:34] Ariadne anyway Quillette would refer to FOSS as communism [08:34] Ariadne i am 100% sure [08:35] techrights-news NEWS #TeenVogue #Monopolies #SocialControlMedia #Facebook Is a #Monopoly Heres Why That Matters https://www.teenvogue.com/story/facebook-monopoly-communications [08:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | Facebook Is a Monopoly Heres Why That Matters | Teen Vogue [08:38] activelow "smart eID law", smart electronics identification law... german government doesn't translate this into german language anymore [08:38] schestowitz-TR smart [08:38] schestowitz-TR "e" [08:38] Ariadne you want that in german? [08:38] schestowitz-TR they miss some words [08:38] Ariadne ok [08:38] *activelow is following morning news on tv [08:38] schestowitz-TR how about [08:39] Ariadne in other news, trump is running a mastodon instance now [08:39] Ariadne this should prove hilarious [08:39] schestowitz-TR smart clown hey hi-enbled IS framework? [08:39] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: he did a blog and shut it down [08:40] schestowitz-TR no audience [08:40] Ariadne yeah [08:40] Ariadne now he has [08:40] Ariadne TRUTH Social [08:40] schestowitz-TR twitter was actively amplifying him [08:40] Ariadne which is a reskinned mastodon [08:40] schestowitz-TR outrage drives "engagement" [08:40] Ariadne yes [08:40] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: I had the radio on half an hour ago [08:40] schestowitz-TR had to turn it off, could not stand the propaganda [08:41] schestowitz-TR though I like what the GPs and health experts say [08:41] schestowitz-TR the government mostly ignores them [08:41] activelow ministry of the interior hired more than 500 employees to monitor online "hate speech" [08:41] gustaf activelow: I don't read German but my feeling is that the langauge is quite open for foreign loanwords [08:41] activelow i would say it is online spies [08:41] gustaf much more so than French or ICelandic [08:41] schestowitz-TR activelow: that's too broad a definition [08:41] schestowitz-TR IIRC, it started in France [08:42] schestowitz-TR they also 'pioneered' RTbF [08:42] schestowitz-TR censorship for the rich in 'privacy' clothing [08:42] activelow exactly, and if government intended to sanction "hate speech" and "fake news" they had to fire a majority of public TV and radio station staff [08:42] *schestowitz-TR does an article about Baltic states and EPO corruption today [08:43] schestowitz-TR they use race as a fig leaf [08:43] schestowitz-TR "we need to censor because racial sensebilities" [08:43] schestowitz-TR which sounds reasonable, nobody can oppose [08:43] gustaf Ariadne: to be fair, that person who resigned from LLVM due to them having a CoC had a post on Quillette [08:44] schestowitz-TR later they weaponise this for the higher class to censor exposers [08:44] schestowitz-TR EPO is so currupt, it's UNBELIEVABLE [08:44] Ariadne gustaf: sounds like a self-selecting problem [08:44] schestowitz-TR which you give powerful people diplomatic immunity we have a Mafia inside Europe [08:45] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: the CoC is already weaponised to silence critics of corporations [08:45] schestowitz-TR we documented some examples [08:45] Ariadne that is nothing new, or even specific to CoCs [08:46] schestowitz-TR if they weed out community voices, then free software gets privatised without any resistant from those who did lots of the original coding [08:46] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: yes, but it's another weapon for them [08:46] Ariadne okay, and what about the people who decide to not engage with the FOSS community? [08:46] schestowitz-TR like OnlyFans, those with the capital drive the decision [08:47] Ariadne i think it is possible to want to have diversity and inclusive projects and also protect critics (as long as they are truly punching up) [08:48] schestowitz-TR it's more tricky then this [08:48] schestowitz-TR *than [08:48] gustaf organizations should be free to organize themselves without outside interference [08:48] Ariadne if some want to write CoCs (which as i have noted before are nothing more than virtue signalling, it is community management which actually matters), who cares [08:48] schestowitz-TR those higher up start disguising themselves as something else to misdirect [08:48] schestowitz-TR and we have examples of that too [08:49] Ariadne then document and publish proof of those actors being bad faith actors [08:49] schestowitz-TR we do occasionally [08:49] Ariadne as i did with Andrew and Shane [08:49] schestowitz-TR when the evidence is very clear [08:49] kingoffrance lol https://www.techopedia.com/definition/29607/jank-web-development [08:49] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techopedia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techopedia.com/definition/29607/jank-web-development [08:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is Jank? - Definition from Techopedia [08:49] schestowitz-TR EPO does the same [08:49] schestowitz-TR they hide behind platitudes [08:49] kingoffrance its under 'mobile" category lol [08:50] schestowitz-TR while breaking the law, stealking money etc. [08:50] Ariadne https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2021/10/20/2 [08:50] schestowitz-TR EPO even weaponises disability for this [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openwall.com | oss-security - Core-dump handing issues with suid binaries [08:50] Ariadne kernel.core_pattern root vulnerability [08:50] Ariadne love it [08:51] schestowitz-TR "throw it at the kernel" [08:51] kingoffrance i just mean, "jank" is a modern term, why doesnt google like it? lol [08:52] kingoffrance not knocking mobile stuff [08:52] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: as a general rule, civil rights movements lose when the upper class hijacks them [08:52] schestowitz-TR and exploits them to muzzle the oppressed [08:52] schestowitz-TR EPO does this to women [08:52] Ariadne hint: the upper class is Quillette [08:52] schestowitz-TR also to disabled people [08:52] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: no connection at all to that site [08:53] schestowitz-TR women at EPO are also upset at this [08:53] Ariadne sure, i agree that the EPO is bad [08:53] schestowitz-TR just one example [08:53] schestowitz-TR it happens all the time everywhere [08:53] schestowitz-TR environmentalism too [08:54] techrights-news >[Old] #LWN # Xinuos sues IBM https://lwn.net/Articles/851315/ [08:54] gustaf Quillette doesn't seem to have written anything about Stallman [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xinuos sues IBM [LWN.net] [08:54] techrights-news [Old] #ITPro #Xinuos sues #IBM for #patent infringement https://www.itpro.com/software/linux/359110/xinuos-sues-ibm-for-patent-infringement patent?!?! [08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.com | Xinuos sues IBM for patent infringement | IT PRO [08:54] Ariadne however, there is a problem in FOSS where, for example, contributors from India, have to work much harder to get commit privs to projects like GCC [08:55] Ariadne i agree that CoC does not solve that problem -- the real one [08:55] schestowitz-TR gustaf: is mostly moans about "cancel culture" from what I can see... [08:55] Ariadne however, i think that talking about this problem is important [08:55] schestowitz-TR I didn't see issues with that [08:55] schestowitz-TR with people berating Indians in FOSS [08:56] Ariadne berating, no. it is that they do not have the same traction [08:56] Ariadne because there is an attitude in the tech industry that India is filled with second-rate engineers, that can be hired for cheap [08:56] schestowitz-TR they start from a position of disadvantage. Slower connections etc. [08:56] techrights-news NEWS #ItsFOSS #Xinuos Sues IBM & Red Hat for Allegedly Copying Software Code https://news.itsfoss.com/xinuos-ibm-red-hat-lawsuit/ [08:56] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/xinuos-ibm-red-hat-lawsuit/ [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Xinuos Sues IBM & Red Hat for Allegedly Copying Software Code - It's FOSS News [08:56] Ariadne and that attitude carries on into "enterprise FOSS", which basically own the GNU project wholesale at this point [08:57] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:57] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: you could argue that it's the greedy corporations that discrminate against them [08:57] schestowitz-TR paying them less. Same in China. [08:57] Ariadne i can, and do, argue that. but that attitude nonetheless transfers into FOSS project governance. [08:57] schestowitz-TR So if we oppose racism and discrimination, we should direct back at them the CoC [08:58] Ariadne we should oppose racism and discrimination regardless of whether a CoC exists or not [08:58] schestowitz-TR I've not yet seen a company banned from a FOSS project over CoC violations [08:58] schestowitz-TR Microsoft meanwhile works with ICE [08:58] schestowitz-TR and who banned Microsoft for it? [08:58] schestowitz-TR nobody [08:58] Ariadne you're focusing on CoCs [08:59] schestowitz-TR \as an example [08:59] schestowitz-TR of disproportionate powers [08:59] Ariadne my point is that, all of us, have a responsibility to lift others up in the FOSS communities [08:59] schestowitz-TR the companies threaten financial punishment until/unless it's adopted [08:59] Ariadne and, in doing so, it is our greatest defense against the threat of unilateral control by the "enterprise FOSS" vendors, such as IBM, Intel and Oracle ● Oct 21 [09:00] schestowitz-TR they state problems [09:00] schestowitz-TR that are not their own [09:00] gustaf "Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says" [09:00] gustaf can't agree more [09:00] schestowitz e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [09:01] Ariadne and who bankrolls LF? GAFAM [09:01] schestowitz gustaf: link? [09:01] schestowitz I've moaned about it for years [09:01] schestowitz hey hi just means "computer" or "program" now [09:01] schestowitz "something clever" [09:01] Ariadne anywho [09:01] gustaf schestowitz: https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says [09:01] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: ieee.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum [09:01] gustaf ``That's what pisses me the most about world these days, my pet peeve. Words seem to be losing their meaning. People just throw whatever words they want.'' [09:02] gustaf ok HN [09:02] Ariadne i actually dislike CoCs, because these companies slapped them on their projects and went "problem solved! thumbs up" [09:02] techrights-news Stop Calling Everything HEY HI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says #spectrum [09:02] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: ieee.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says [09:02] Ariadne however, in many cases, CoCs are required for projects to qualify for grant underwriting anymore [09:03] Ariadne meanwhile, the actual diversity problem remains unsolved [09:03] schestowitz-TR that's capital at work [09:03] gustaf just a bunch of checkboxes [09:03] gustaf to avoid issues with donors [09:03] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: because that's not the problem they sought to tackle [09:04] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Delta Proudly Announces Its Participation In The DHS's Expanded Biometric Collection Program https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211010/11433147729/delta-proudly-announces-participation-dhss-expanded-biometric-collection-program.shtml [09:04] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211010/11433147729/delta-proudly-announces-participation-dhss-expanded-biometric-collection-program.shtml [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Delta Proudly Announces Its Participation In The DHS's Expanded Biometric Collection Program | Techdirt [09:04] *leah has quit (connection closed) [09:04] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:05] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #microsoft #cnsorship #china #LinkedIn (Mostly) Exits China, Citing Escalating Demands For Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211016/17494647761/linkedin-mostly-exits-china-citing-escalating-demands-censorship.shtml a bit of revisionism as for a LOOOOONG time Microsoft censored; now it claims moral high ground?? [09:05] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211016/17494647761/linkedin-mostly-exits-china-citing-escalating-demands-censorship.shtml [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LinkedIn (Mostly) Exits China, Citing Escalating Demands For Censorship | Techdirt [09:09] techrights-news old: #ibm #sco https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&u=https://www.heise.de/news/SCO-vs-Linux-IBM-soll-14-25-Millionen-US-Dollar-zahlen-6179831.html https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/08/30/tsg_sco_ibm_motion_of_settlement.pdf [09:09] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: regmedia.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://regmedia.co.uk/2021/08/30/tsg_sco_ibm_motion_of_settlement.pdf [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-heise-de.translate.goog | SCO vs. Linux: IBM soll 14,25 Millionen US-Dollar zahlen | heise online [09:11] techrights-news #microsoft intentionally omitted https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=8A948B18-672E-4BDF-AF39-5195C0979B4A see how Microsoft lobbying distracts from the biggest offenders: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.klobuchar.senate.gov | Support Builds for Bipartisan Legislation From Klobuchar, Grassley, and Colleagues to Rein in Big Tech - News Releases - U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [09:11] techrights-news #voanews #misinformation for #microsoft https://www.voanews.com/a/how-linkedin-china-outlasted-other-us-tech-giants-and-why-it-s-departing-now-/6278353.html iophk: not departing, just becoming a surveillance phone "app" instead [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | How LinkedIn China Outlasted Other US Tech Giants and Why It's Departing Now [09:13] techrights-news NEWS #TheGrayZone #surveillance Public health or private wealth? 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How digital vaccine passports pave way for unprecedented surveillance capitalism - The Grayzone [09:13] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Take part in the UK Bebras Challenge 2021 for schools! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/uk-bebras-challenge-2021-for-schools/ [09:13] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/uk-bebras-challenge-2021-for-schools/ [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Take part in the UK Bebras Challenge 2021 for schools! - Raspberry Pi [09:13] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #DRM #BritishTelecom Wants #Netflix To Pay A Tax Simply Because Squid Game Is Popular https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/08235847773/british-telecom-wants-netflix-to-pay-tax-simply-because-squid-game-is-popular.shtml [09:13] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/08235847773/british-telecom-wants-netflix-to-pay-tax-simply-because-squid-game-is-popular.shtml [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-British Telecom Wants Netflix To Pay A Tax Simply Because Squid Game Is Popular | Techdirt [09:28] techrights-news CoCs are to individual human beings what #DMCA is to so-called 'content' because both are, in practice, utilised the most by the deep-pocketed powerful corporations against powerless individuals they dislike [09:28] Ariadne that is an incredibly bold claim [09:28] schestowitz-TR takedown requests [09:29] schestowitz-TR but for people [09:29] gustaf orgs need a way to get rid of people who are a net drag [09:29] schestowitz-TR orgs or corps? [09:29] gustaf both [09:30] schestowitz-TR Time will tell how they pans out [09:31] schestowitz-TR from what I understand, it started with Microsoft and ISVs [09:31] schestowitz-TR among others [09:31] gustaf if I start a knitting club and an actual Nazi joins, I'd like them to leave and join a knitting club open to Nazis [09:31] schestowitz-TR as means by which Microsoft leverages control over who ISVs employe [09:31] Ariadne i dont think you need a CoC for that [09:31] Ariadne you can just say "get the fuck out" [09:31] schestowitz-TR gustaf: you could get rid of nazis before [09:31] schestowitz-TR they might even be breaking laws [09:32] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: or refuse to collaborate with them [09:32] schestowitz-TR and they get the message [09:32] schestowitz-TR we did not need a coc to deal with jeorg schilling [09:32] schestowitz-TR who by the way died this month from cancer [09:33] Ariadne or ulrich drepper, for that matter [09:33] schestowitz-TR yes [09:33] schestowitz-TR I was thinking of him too [09:34] Ariadne talking about glibc, siddhesh is one of the people i was thinking of earlier who had to fight an uphill battle to earn his commit bits [09:34] Ariadne despite others being able to just join the new glibc, no questions asked [09:34] schestowitz-TR these, I think, are related to class systems [09:35] schestowitz-TR but we're not 'meant' to be talking about class [09:35] schestowitz-TR GSoC never does [09:35] schestowitz-TR billionaires reject talks about financial equality [09:35] Ariadne i think it is imperative that we do talk about these things [09:35] schestowitz-TR they're rather accuse people of racism [09:35] Ariadne in the context of overcoming them [09:35] schestowitz-TR while paying people in china $2 an hour to make a device they sell for $1000 [09:36] schestowitz-TR or employ people in india for a fraction of the salary for the same work [09:36] schestowitz-TR and then they call the COMMUNITY "racist" [09:36] schestowitz-TR apple could pay factory workers $20/hours [09:37] Ariadne apple could pay every single worker $300/hour and still have a profit of $46 billion [09:37] schestowitz-TR these are the discussions they want to avoiud [09:37] schestowitz-TR like asking the rich why they avoid paying tax [09:38] schestowitz-TR or why IRS chases poor people while avoiding people with expensive lawyers [09:38] schestowitz-TR BTW, the article I edit now... [09:38] schestowitz-TR it's about head of patent officer with secret german and swiss bank accounts [09:38] schestowitz-TR he plundered his patent office [09:38] schestowitz-TR NEVER SENT TO PRISON [09:38] schestowitz-TR what a world we live in.. [09:39] Ariadne is ariadne.space loading correctly for everyone else here? [09:39] Ariadne i just switched wordpress branches on it [09:41] schestowitz-TR loads ok here [09:41] schestowitz-TR did you empty caches? [09:41] schestowitz [09:42] schestowitz I never understand why WP is STILL showing that [09:42] schestowitz by default [09:42] schestowitz inviting crackers [09:42] Ariadne ok, good [09:42] schestowitz even tells them which bugs exactly might be present [09:42] schestowitz very bad security practice [09:42] Ariadne yeah, i don't really care about that, if they want to pop a shell on an ARM server, go for it [09:43] schestowitz we use fully patched wordpress LTS [09:43] Ariadne all of their exploits will be useless [09:43] schestowitz I have about 10 wordpress sites [09:43] schestowitz Ariadne: they let spiders catalogue which site runs which version [09:43] schestowitz and then they can go through the list, cracking all of version x.y [09:44] schestowitz wordpress should not advertise version numbers [09:44] Ariadne i agree [09:44] schestowitz I was involved deeply in 2004 onwards [09:44] schestowitz they never understood security [09:44] schestowitz by their own admission [09:45] Ariadne i am testing out jetpack at the moment instead of yoast [09:45] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:45] schestowitz matt lee dumped wordpress over this [09:45] Ariadne yoast was screwing up twitter previews [09:45] schestowitz too many and too frequent security patches = maintenance overhead [09:46] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [09:46] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #censorship Content Moderation Case Studies: Snapchat Disables GIPHY Integration After Racist 'Sticker' Is Discovered (2018) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211020/15563847785/content-moderation-case-studies-snapchat-disables-giphy-integration-after-racist-sticker-is-discovered-2018.shtml [09:46] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211020/15563847785/content-moderation-case-studies-snapchat-disables-giphy-integration-after-racist-sticker-is-discovered-2018.shtml [09:46] Ariadne tbh, this bare metal arm server i have from oracle cloud is not bad [09:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Content Moderation Case Studies: Snapchat Disables GIPHY Integration After Racist 'Sticker' Is Discovered (2018) | Techdirt [09:46] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: maybe they operate at a loss [09:47] schestowitz-TR I saw an article about oracle clown the other day [09:47] Ariadne dunno, i'm paying $180 for it [09:47] schestowitz-TR seems the business model is similar to that of social control media [09:47] Ariadne which seems about right [09:47] Ariadne verses other dedicated server providers [09:47] schestowitz-TR AWS is expensive [09:47] schestowitz-TR the price hikes are catching up with the subsidies [09:47] schestowitz-TR last I heard Azure was really losing money [09:48] schestowitz-TR so they just call more things "Azure" [09:48] schestowitz-TR to balance the sheets [09:48] schestowitz-TR Exchange = clown [09:48] schestowitz-TR IIS = yes, clown also [09:48] schestowitz-TR Office = that's right! Clown [09:48] Ariadne besides, this is a temporary measure until i can find good colocation in the netherlands that does not cost an arm and leg [09:48] schestowitz-TR Skype is becoming "Teams" [09:48] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: for low b/w maybe home hosting [09:49] schestowitz-TR I found that gemini is super-light [09:49] Ariadne i don't like having the sound of servers in my flat [09:49] schestowitz-TR 100 pages = about 1 MB upstream [09:49] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: SBCs make no noise [09:50] Ariadne yes, but i need things like "lets compile 300 alpine packages to see if this rebuild will work" [09:50] schestowitz-TR ah, OK, so it's a compile farm [09:50] Ariadne amongst other things, yes it does that [09:50] schestowitz-TR I thought it was just for wordpress [09:51] techrights-news NEWS #DeSmog #Energy French #Oil Company Total Knew About Global Warming Impact in 1971, Study Finds https://www.desmog.com/2021/10/20/french-oil-company-total-knew-about-global-warming-impact-in-1971-study-finds/ [09:51] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: desmog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.desmog.com/2021/10/20/french-oil-company-total-knew-about-global-warming-impact-in-1971-study-finds/ [09:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-French Oil Company Total Knew About Global Warming Impact in 1971, Study Finds - DeSmog [09:53] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/irc-log-201021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/irc-log-201021/ [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 | Techrights [09:54] techrights-news An imaginary #EPO intercept of Administrative Council discussions in June 2013 http://techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #Meme | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/20/epo-double-dipping/ [09:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping | Techrights [09:55] techrights-news You Can Now Install #KDE Plasma 5.23 on Kubuntu 21.10, Heres How http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157033 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Install KDE Plasma 5.23 on Kubuntu 21.10, Heres How | Tux Machines [09:58] gustaf my point is that it's not an inherent right to join an association [09:58] schestowitz-TR right [09:58] schestowitz-TR but that's beside the point [09:58] schestowitz-TR we never had to "oust" people [09:58] schestowitz-TR you can in fact just give peope the impression nobody likes them [09:58] schestowitz-TR without telling them to "get lost" [09:59] gustaf what was wrong with Jrg Schilling ● Oct 21 [10:00] schestowitz-TR I would not know best as it was a long time ago [10:00] schestowitz-TR but many people said he was confrontational [10:26] n he was "difficult" on the Debian-user mailing list about cdrecord, claiming it had bugs but not elaborating on them [10:30] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 21 [11:03] techrights-news Ads = malware and spam these days https://trackingfreeads.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Letter-Tracking-free-Ads-Coalition.pdf [11:04] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt# #MLB In Talks To Offer #Streaming For All Teams' Home Games In-Market Even Without A Cable Subscription https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/09115147774/mlb-talks-to-offer-streaming-all-teams-home-games-in-market-even-without-cable-subscription.shtml #DRM junk [11:04] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/09115147774/mlb-talks-to-offer-streaming-all-teams-home-games-in-market-even-without-cable-subscription.shtml [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MLB In Talks To Offer Streaming For All Teams' Home Games In-Market Even Without A Cable Subscription | Techdirt [11:05] techrights-news Today #techrights will focus again on Baltic states in relation to #epo #corruption (video and article ready, scheduled for end of day) [11:06] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #CSAM Report: Client-Side Scanning Is An Insecure Nightmare Just Waiting To Be Exploited By Governments https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtml [11:06] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211015/15230647756/report-client-side-scanning-is-insecure-nightmare-just-waiting-to-be-exploited-governments.shtml [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report: Client-Side Scanning Is An Insecure Nightmare Just Waiting To Be Exploited By Governments | Techdirt [11:35] techrights-news [Meme] Is Saying No! to Unlawful Proposals Considered Impolite? http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/unlawful-proposals/ #fullmetaljacket #meme #epo #corruption #europe [11:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Is Saying No! to Unlawful Proposals Considered Impolite? | Techrights [11:40] techrights-news " It would be, for example, Facebooks wet dream to have an OS that ships with X11 become the most popular on the planet." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107132704224091735 [11:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Not to mention: secur" - Arals Mastodon [11:41] techrights-news "When the free software movement started to make headway, proprietary software companies like Microsoft went to war against it, describing the licenses at its core (like the GPL) as "viral licenses" to scare companies off from using free software." https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107134651242103309 [11:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Cory Doctorow's linkblog: "When the free software movement started to make h" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr [11:42] techrights-news "Yeah, so #Facebook isn't rebranding because we've somehow got them "on the run." They're pivoting their brand into controlling the data flow of all of our future digital social spaces at the hardware level." https://elekk.xyz/@voltur/107134867427129936 [11:42] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: elekk.xyz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://elekk.xyz/@voltur/107134867427129936 [11:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elekk.xyz | VOLTUR: "Yeah, so Facebook isn't rebranding because we've " - Elekk: Gameing and Other Delightful Pursuits [11:43] techrights-news "Our Tracking-free Ads Coalition calls on the CEOs of the 100 largest advertisers in #Europe to use advertising money ethically right by switching to tracking-free ads" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107128473347105501 [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "Our Tracking-free Ads Coalition calls on the CE" - chaos.social [11:44] techrights-news "To all proponents of indiscriminate identification, anonymity bans and identity databases: You accept the responsibility for the people who are threatened and harassed at home after such hacks?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107128443512357093 [11:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "To all proponents of indiscriminate identificat" - chaos.social [11:45] techrights-news old: #ibm #redhat #sco https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vid.36935/gov.uscourts.vid.36935.1.0.pdf [11:52] techrights-news #borisnaro regime once again trying to blame/scapegoat people who are NOT the superspreaders [11:53] techrights-news ...same #borisnaro regime that blamed #eu for everything and pushed ahead #brexit which accomplished nothing at all. Tory = the scapegoating hate group. ● Oct 21 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [12:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.68 swarm size (avg): 259.48 [12:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 4.68 swarm size (avg): 259.48 [12:02] techrights-news The #UK Conservative Party is a #HateGroup exempted from #hatespeech #law [12:09] techrights-news [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-reception-issues/ #finland #latvia #lithuania #estonia #nokia [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues | Techrights [12:20] *leah has quit (connection closed) [12:20] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [12:30] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@hd8jm36tf7ase.irc) has joined #techrights [12:31] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:45] techrights-news 5 Best Free and Open Source TypeScript Static Site Generators http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157034 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Free and Open Source TypeScript Static Site Generators | Tux Machines [12:46] techrights-news #ibm #redhat shilling #microsoft all the time. Not sure at which point we can call that company a "NET NEGATIVE" like #novell was... [12:47] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #google #YouTube Rippers Oppose RIAA's Worldwide 'Blocking' Injunction & Massive Damages https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-oppose-riaas-worldwide-blocking-injunction-and-massive-damages-211020/ [12:47] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-oppose-riaas-worldwide-blocking-injunction-and-massive-damages-211020/ [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Rippers Oppose RIAA's Worldwide 'Blocking' Injunction & Massive Damages * TorrentFreak [12:47] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Trump Invokes Presidential 'Absolute Immunity' in Electric Avenue Copyright Suit https://torrentfreak.com/trump-invokes-presidential-absolute-immunity-in-electric-avenue-copyright-suit-211020/ [12:47] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/trump-invokes-presidential-absolute-immunity-in-electric-avenue-copyright-suit-211020/ [12:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Invokes Presidential 'Absolute Immunity' in Electric Avenue Copyright Suit * TorrentFreak [12:48] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:51] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [12:54] techrights-news NEWS #EFF From Bangkok to Burlington The Public Interest Social Internet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/bangkok-burlington-public-interest-social-internet [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | From Bangkok to Burlington The Public Interest Social Internet | Electronic Frontier Foundation ● Oct 21 [13:02] MinceR lol @ Arcane Sound System [13:10] schestowitz-TR what does PA stand for? [13:10] schestowitz-TR except Palestinian Authorities and PulseAudio [13:11] schestowitz-TR IBM Pesonal Assistant [13:12] schestowitz-TR assisting vendor lockin agenda [13:12] schestowitz-TR rocky linux is piracy [13:12] schestowitz-TR alma linux is terrorism [13:12] schestowitz-TR centos is "streams" [13:12] schestowitz-TR streaming is piracy [13:12] schestowitz-TR DRM is "protection" [13:12] schestowitz-TR Power is Open(TM) [13:13] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:13] schestowitz-TR Linux Foundation is "Linux" [13:13] techrights-news How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of #Internet Protocols Like #GeminiProtocol http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ #www #nntp [13:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | Techrights [13:18] techrights-news Thanks to #borisnaro we have more confirmed #covid19 cases than #russia and are ranked 4th in the world alongside countries with vastly bigger populations. Guess who our regime is scapegoating... [13:21] techrights-news #florida has become #china or #northkorea (not really reporting what #covid19 does to FL) but still there are over 2,000 deaths/day with COVID-19 diagnosis in the US (2,005 yesterday; real numbers higher), so you know the vaccines are fantastic and there's no need for better vaccines. Yes, I'm being facetious. #patents #monopoly [13:22] activelow c++ here we go again: webkit-gtk-1.8 prefers -std=gnu++98, with -std=gnu++11 (default) errors are reported; however some #includes require gnu++11 internally although exposing an unchanged interface since gnu++98 [13:24] techrights-news October 2020 in US: blame Trump for dead COVID patients. About 1,000/day in weekdays. October 2021 in US: blame Trump supporters for dead COVID patients. About 2,000/day in weekdays. #biden cannot be criticised! [13:24] activelow which is an interesting attack vector against opensource to vendor lock-in to a modern compiler (gcc-8 or llvm/clang); and then break things although sources/interfaces didn't change [13:25] activelow and, webkit-gtk-1.8 is roughly 10years old only, and fails horribly already, and the c++ errors aren't trivally repaired [13:25] schestowitz-TR is latest gcc not acceptable? [13:25] activelow for it isn't, neither gcc nor llvm/clang are acceptable anymore, however it is impossible to drop those [13:25] activelow for me [13:26] activelow problem is, webkit requires an old c++ compiler (gnu++98), and some recent headers with compatible interfaces require gnu++11 nonetheless [13:27] kingoffrance am i wrong to guess that you compiled it fine, but when you try to compile something that actually uses it, run into problems? [13:27] kingoffrance thats what it sounds like [13:29] activelow no, it is more nasty than that, i need to pass g++ -std=tnu++98 to compile webkit-gtk-1.8, which fixes various compilation errors magically [13:29] activelow however, some #included headers require -std=gnu+11 otherwise those new headers fail compilation [13:29] kingoffrance yeah, how is that solved? [13:29] kingoffrance like some per-file pragma for "problem files" ? [13:30] activelow there is no solution yet [13:30] kingoffrance or portion of file even [13:30] kingoffrance :/ [13:31] activelow i can try to pass separate cppflags with std=gnu+11 and keep cxxflags at std=gnu+98 [13:40] kingoffrance re: excerpt "" It would be, for example, Facebooks wet dream to have an OS that ships with X11 " seems a little retcon-ish/ trying to justify non-x stuff to me. not that i disagree per se......but who ever chose x for "security" ? noone, ever, in the history of window systems? [13:41] kingoffrance " a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency." i dont know what else to call that type of thing [13:51] kingoffrance seems like trying to sell a little too eagerly IMO, but i dont follow these things [13:52] kingoffrance was the ever about security? not that i am aware [13:52] kingoffrance i mean, was that ever a strong reason people want/wanted to leave x? not that i ever heard [13:52] activelow x11 AND specific extensions [13:52] kingoffrance it was : too old too much legacy scary codebase outdate model/design [13:52] kingoffrance yep [13:52] kingoffrance that too [13:53] activelow for example, i was surprised by evdev input subsystem appearing recently [13:54] activelow besides, i do not feel comfortable with the DRI/DRM subsystem of kernel and X11 [13:54] kingoffrance well thats what i mean "security-wise" is non-x11 any better? [13:55] activelow X11 exposes *additional* interfaces, for keyboard i/o sniffing [13:57] kingoffrance i guess i figure ppl worried facebook would monitor them...would run browser inside a VM or something [13:57] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Finance Supply Chain Blues: Who's Pulling Yours? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/20/supply-chain-blues-whos-pulling-yours/ [13:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supply Chain Blues: Who's Pulling Yours? - CounterPunch.org [13:57] activelow ok, the technical details i was thinking about are not related to facebook specifically [13:58] kingoffrance sure. the excerpt just seemed a little stretching to me [13:59] kingoffrance if, maybe that is a "power user" and "joe average" will not take such precautions....then makes more sense ● Oct 21 [14:01] kingoffrance i mean, there is argument for "sane defaults" and then [14:02] kingoffrance those are 2 different use cases IMO [14:10] kingoffrance its not that i disagree...its that i think normal person doesnt give a hoot about "security" either way. they want to know 1) can i play my game 2) etc. [14:11] kingoffrance so i mean, that is an argument for "sane defaults" perhaps [14:11] kingoffrance i just dont think normal person, their train of thought, is anything like implied [14:11] kingoffrance better not run x......facebook can watch me [14:27] activelow if you mean X11 with x, then it is mostly irelevant if wayland or x11 are chosen, that's not related to whatever your concerns with facebook are [14:29] kingoffrance yeah, agree. that was the link: https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107132704224091735 [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Not to mention: secur" - Arals Mastodon [14:31] activelow charlatans [14:31] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Censorship 'This Is Sick': Cable Companies Refuse to Air Ad Criticizing Corporate Donors to Florida's Abortion Opponents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/sick-cable-companies-refuse-air-ad-criticizing-corporate-donors-floridas-abortion [14:31] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/sick-cable-companies-refuse-air-ad-criticizing-corporate-donors-floridas-abortion [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Sick': Cable Companies Refuse to Air Ad Criticizing Corporate Donors to Florida's Abortion Opponents [14:39] kingoffrance maybe im just underwhelmed. people who care about security, going to do something, sane defaults or not people who dont care, will disable things. maybe im too negative :) [14:40] kingoffrance my opinion is people who dont care about security, will disable anything you do to protect them [14:40] kingoffrance so sure, dont ship x11 by default. i think they will out-user you [14:40] kingoffrance and find a way to be exploited [14:40] kingoffrance very creatively lol [14:41] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies Do Not 'Cave to #BigPharma ': 60+ Groups Tell Schumer, Pelosi to Deliver on Drug Pricing Reform https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/do-not-cave-big-pharma-60-groups-tell-schumer-pelosi-deliver-drug-pricing-reform [14:41] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/20/do-not-cave-big-pharma-60-groups-tell-schumer-pelosi-deliver-drug-pricing-reform [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Do Not 'Cave to Big Pharma': 60+ Groups Tell Schumer, Pelosi to Deliver on Drug Pricing Reform [14:41] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies Opinion | Any Democrat Who Stands Against Lower Drug Prices Should Be Primaried in 2022 https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/20/any-democrat-who-stands-against-lower-drug-prices-should-be-primaried-2022 [14:41] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/20/any-democrat-who-stands-against-lower-drug-prices-should-be-primaried-2022 [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Any Democrat Who Stands Against Lower Drug Prices Should Be Primaried in 2022 | Robert Reich [14:43] techrights-news A toxic mix of enablers and cowards (who wont vote negatively on EPO proposals which they know to be unlawful) can serve to show that the #EPO isnt a social democracy as #BenotBattistelli liked to call it http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/unlawful-proposals/ [14:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Is Saying No! to Unlawful Proposals Considered Impolite? | Techrights [14:43] techrights-news Financial strangulations for Benot Battistellis unlawful Strike Regulations? The #EPO will come to regret http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-reception-issues/ #europe #patents #finland #epo [14:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues | Techrights [14:44] techrights-news Popular movements and even some courageous publications have long been subverted by demonisation tactics, splits along unrelated grounds (such as controversial #politics ) and failing that technical sabotage and #censorship http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | Techrights [14:50] techrights-news NEWS #PIA #Facebook #FB Facebooks Very Bad, No Good Week: What It Means for Privacy, and How to Make Things Better https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/facebooks-very-bad-no-good-week-what-it-means-for-privacy-and-how-to-make-things-better/ [14:50] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/facebooks-very-bad-no-good-week-what-it-means-for-privacy-and-how-to-make-things-better/ [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Facebooks Very Bad, No Good Week: What It Means for Privacy, and How to Make Things Better [14:52] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] techrights-news #Beelink sucks because it forces you to pay for and get #microsoft #windows with #nsa #backdoors (that's no way to treat one's clients) https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/beelink-ser3-review-a-good-amd-ryzen-7-mini-pc-after-tweaks/ [14:53] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/beelink-ser3-review-a-good-amd-ryzen-7-mini-pc-after-tweaks/ [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink SER3 Review - A good AMD Ryzen 7 mini PC... after tweaks - CNX Software [14:58] techrights-news No, #itfoss ... #microsoft VS 'code' is NOT FOSS. Stop pushing #proprietarySoftware with #surveillance as though it is morally acceptable. To make matters worse, it's an ATTACK on FOSS, encouraging GPL violations. [14:59] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:59] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights ● Oct 21 [15:00] techrights-news Raspberry Pi Sees Their First Price Increase Due To Supply Chain issues http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31462 [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux Machines [15:02] techrights-news The New Features and Upgrades You'll Find in Ubuntu 21.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31463 [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [15:03] techrights-news GIMP 2.99.8 Released with .jxl File Support, How to Install in Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157028#comment-31464 [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development version: GIMP 2.99.8 Released | Tux Machines [15:07] *CrystalMath (~coderain@riwizsmx5wzb8.irc) has joined #techrights [15:08] *swaggboi has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:09] techrights-news Spiders in #geminiSpace and how to keep those under control https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007335.html [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [discussion] The matter of Robots.txt [15:16] techrights-news Whats New in Ubuntu 21.10? 6 Highlights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31465 [15:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [15:17] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:17] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [15:19] techrights-news #V3DV #RaspberryPi Driver Now Exposes Vulkan 1.1 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=V3DV-Vulkan-1.1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [15:19] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=V3DV-Vulkan-1.1 [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-V3DV Raspberry Pi Driver Now Exposes Vulkan 1.1 - Phoronix [15:22] techrights-news Here's Why #RaspberryPi is Increasing its Price http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31469 [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux Machines [15:24] techrights-news #LibreOffice extension to remove blank cells Help to improve it! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157035 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice extension to remove blank cells Help to improve it! | Tux Machines [15:24] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157036 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:25] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157037 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:25] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157038 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:26] techrights-news xkcd: Dark Arts https://xkcd.com/2531/ #xkcd [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Dark Arts [15:26] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2531/ [15:26] *blitzed (~blitzed@d3wswzztcj3cy.irc) has joined #techrights [15:27] techrights-news #KeepItOn: Eswatini authorities shut down #internet to quell protests, ask people to email grievances - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-eswatini-protests/ #accessnow [15:27] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-eswatini-protests/ [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | #KeepItOn: Eswatini authorities shut down internet to quell protests, ask people to email grievances - Access Now [15:35] techrights-news #KDE /Plasma 5.23 "25th Anniversary Edition" for #Debian | There and back again https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/10/kde-plasma-5-23-25th-anniversary-edition-for-debian/ #Norbertpreining #gnu #linux [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.preining.info | KDE/Plasma 5.23 "25th Anniversary Edition" for Debian | There and back again [15:35] techrights-news Challenge: Use #KDE Plasma ONLY With Touchscreen! - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/76xwD2mHFm7CF8j11cZcMr #gnu #linux [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Challenge: Use KDE Plasma ONLY With Touchscreen! - Kockatoo Tube [15:37] techrights-news RELEASE: #KDEneon 20211021 https://neon.kde.org/ #kde #gnu #linux [15:37] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://neon.kde.org/ [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neon.kde.org | KDE neon [15:40] techrights-news WHO playing Dr. Obvious today: #pandemic will carry on next year. OH REALLY???? I thiught that right after xmas #COVID19 would be miraculously eradicated. [15:41] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:42] techrights-news #COVID19 has already been around for more than 2 years and it'll carry on spreading for another 2+ years because figures we have from #singapore and #israel (very high vaccination rates) suggest we need vastly better vaccines, not just more people vaccinated. [15:43] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [15:43] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] techrights-news #BSDNow "The New Architecture on the Block, #OpenBSD on Vortex86DX CPU, lots of new releases, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/425 #bsd #unix [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 425: Releases galore [15:46] techrights-news #KDE: Touchscreens, Debian, and Kdenlive http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157039 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Touchscreens, Debian, and Kdenlive | Tux Machines [15:47] techrights-news The 8 Excellent Alternative Desktops for Fedora and #HowTo Install Them http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157040 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 8 Excellent Alternative Desktops for Fedora and How to Install Them | Tux Machines [15:49] techrights-news #borisnaro and #billbc funded by pervert #bilgates now pushing 3rd shots in the #uk and this assures the 22 million who never received 2 shots (or 20 million who never got any) won't bother at all. Explanation in http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [15:49] techrights-news #AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" Performance On Ubuntu Linux Six Months After Launch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157041 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD EPYC 7003 "Milan" Performance On Ubuntu Linux Six Months After Launch | Tux Machines [15:59] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights ● Oct 21 [16:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.85 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [16:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.85 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [16:10] techrights-news "There is a very long post at Substack, that tries to answer why the World Wide Web replaced native programs installed and running locally on desktop computers, but not on mobile ones, that is smartphones and tablets." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/why-didnt-the-web-disrupt-mobile-you-ask/ [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Why didn't the web disrupt mobile, you ask? | Stop at Zona-M [16:10] *leah has quit (connection closed) [16:11] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [16:11] techrights-news #Surveillance cameras are just more #socialcontrolmedia https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/surveillance-cameras-are-just-more-social-media/ "One is extra work for law enforcement" [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Surveillance cameras are just more social media | Stop at Zona-M [16:12] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157042 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show, FLOSS Weekly, and More | Tux Machines [16:13] techrights-news #zdnet = #microsoft spam site. Avoid. #boycottzdnet (paid-for ads in 'article' clothing) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [16:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [16:16] techrights-news FreeOffice 2021 is Here for Linux With Enhanced Compatibility and New Features to Rival Microsoft Office http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156972#comment-31472 but #itsFOSS promotes things that are NOT FOSS [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SoftMaker FreeOffice 2021 is Now Available to Download | Tux Machines [16:18] techrights-news "The MOS Technology 6502 was one of the most popular processors of the 8-bit era. It found a home in legendary computers like the Commodore 64, Acorn Electron, BBC Micro, and Apple II." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/21/arduino-enables-usb-mouse-support-on-custom-6502-homebrew-computer/ [16:18] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/21/arduino-enables-usb-mouse-support-on-custom-6502-homebrew-computer/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino enables USB mouse support on custom 6502 homebrew computer | Arduino Blog [16:22] techrights-news #Devices and #OpenHardware : #RaspberryPi , Arduino, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157043 #TuxMachines [16:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More | Tux Machines [16:25] techrights-news #FreeSoftware Review: Trying out #LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Its less annoying, but theres still DRM? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157044 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Review: Trying out LibreWolf 93 as an alternative to Firefox. Its less annoying, but theres still DRM? | Tux Machines [16:27] techrights-news "In our new hybrid work reality, many people in IT have enjoyed the flexibility to rewrite the rules on work-life balance." #ibm helps many of them, #redhat staff included, by firing them. Then it's 100% life, no work. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/productivity-lessons-learned-6-cios-share-tips-personal-and-team-productivity [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Productivity lessons learned: 6 CIOs share tips for you and your team | The Enterprisers Project [16:28] techrights-news #ibm #redhat is meanwhile pushing these lousy and loosely-defined buzzwords (which even their proponents can barely explain!!) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/devops-future-operating-model-it [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | DevOps: 3 skills needed to support its future in the enterprise | The Enterprisers Project [16:29] techrights-news " #rebuilderd 0.15.0 very recently released, this is a short intro into what it is, how it works and how to build our own integrations!" https://vulns.xyz/2021/10/rebuilderd-v0.15.0/ #programming [16:29] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: vulns.xyz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vulns.xyz/2021/10/rebuilderd-v0.15.0/ [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Release: rebuilderd v0.15.0 - vulns.xyz [16:30] techrights-news Today after work I'll publish a video and article about Baltic states in relation to their role in #epo abuses. So sad that media in #europe turns a blind eye to #corruption ... I call it #corruptMedia [16:33] techrights-news Ruby Lands "YJIT" As A Speedy, In-Process JIT Compiler - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ruby-YJIT but #deletegithub ... it's #microsoft #proprietarySoftware and not acceptable for #freesw #programming http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [16:33] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ruby-YJIT [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ruby Lands "YJIT" As A Speedy, In-Process JIT Compiler - Phoronix [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [16:34] techrights-news Digital Services Act: bad decisions can lead to global consequences - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/digital-services-act-human-rights/ #accessnow #eu #europe #censorship [16:34] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-services-act-human-rights/ [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Digital Services Act: bad decisions can lead to global consequences - Access Now [16:35] techrights-news Four strategies to defend #encryption and our human rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/how-to-defend-encryption/ #accessnow | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [16:35] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/how-to-defend-encryption/ [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Four strategies to defend encryption and our human rights - Access Now [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:35] techrights-news Who we hurt when we attack #encryption - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/who-we-hurt-when-we-attack-encryption/ #accessnow [16:35] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/who-we-hurt-when-we-attack-encryption/ [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Who we hurt when we attack encryption - Access Now [16:38] techrights-news #suse is working for #proprietarySoftware companies https://www.suse.com/c/joint-webinar-hpe-sap-and-suse/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ [16:38] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/joint-webinar-hpe-sap-and-suse/ [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joint Webinar: HPE, SAP and SUSE | SUSE Communities [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an Asset of SAP (German Microsoft), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | Techrights [16:38] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:39] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [16:45] techrights-news "Michael I. Jordan explains why today's artificial-intelligence systems aren't actually intelligent" #HEYHI #hype #marketing #bullcrap https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says [16:45] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: ieee.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://spectrum.ieee.org/stop-calling-everything-ai-machinelearning-pioneer-says [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says - IEEE Spectrum [16:46] techrights-news #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157045 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:48] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:48] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:51] techrights-news #Security , Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub), and #Microsoft #FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157046 #GNU #Linux [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security, Entrapment (Microsoft GitHub), and Microsoft FUD | Tux Machines [16:54] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights ● Oct 21 [17:01] techrights-news How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/internet-monopolists/ [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini | Techrights [17:02] techrights-news Links 21/10/2021: #GIMP 2.99.8 Released, #Hardware Shortages, #Mozilla Crisis http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/mozilla-crisis/ #Techrights| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/mozilla-crisis/ [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2021: GIMP 2.99.8 Released, Hardware Shortages, Mozilla Crisis | Techrights [17:03] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157047 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:03] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157048 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:06] techrights-news #pgAdmin 4 v6.1 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157049 #psql #postgres [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | pgAdmin 4 v6.1 Released | Tux Machines [17:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@x36sbzcacxpvc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:07] techrights-news WILL IT LINUX? | Death Stranding #SteamProton - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tRpWnS9tMFo #video #gnu #linux [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | WILL IT LINUX? | Death Stranding #SteamProton - Invidious [17:08] techrights-news #GNULinux Essentials - User Account & Password Expiration - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYBPpaWUT64 #video #gnu #linux [17:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Essentials - User Account & Password Expiration - Invidious [17:09] techrights-news "In this video, I am going to show how to install #UbuntuKylin 21.10." #gnu #linux https://yewtu.be/watch?v=URqqMlqPZGw [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Ubuntu Kylin 21.10 - Invidious [17:11] techrights-news #TMobile pays people $2 per hour to manufacture things to it pretends cost $400 to make? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/t-mobile-home-internet-swaps-out-my-nokia-trash-can-then-two-days-later-says-i-didnt-return-it-and-theyll-bill-me-almost-400/ [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | T-Mobile Home Internet swaps out my Nokia Trash Can, then two days later says I didnt return it and theyll bill me almost $400. BaronHK's Rants [17:13] techrights-news Notes from the #Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 https://lwn.net/ml/git/nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2110211129130.56@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet/ #programming [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 [LWN.net] [17:14] techrights-news AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Smart-Trace-Buffer-Linux #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [17:14] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Smart-Trace-Buffer-Linux [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux - Phoronix [17:18] techrights-news "The first speaker on day one of the summit was Xiaochen Zou, a PhD student at the University of California, Riverside, who described a tool that he and his colleagues have been running on bugs that syzbotwhich uses the syzkaller coverage-guided fuzzerhas reported in the Linux kernel." https://lwn.net/Articles/872649/ [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scrutinizing bugs found by syzbot [LWN.net] [17:18] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1378840250202562563.jpg [17:18] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1378840250202562563.jpg [17:18] techrights-news A rough start for #ksmbd [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/Articles/871866/ #LWN #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A rough start for ksmbd [LWN.net] [17:20] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:20] techrights-news A #QEMU case study in grappling with software complexity [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/Articles/872321/ #LWN #GNU #Linux [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A QEMU case study in grappling with software complexity [LWN.net] [17:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.50 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [17:21] techrights-news Digging into Julia's package system [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/Articles/871490/ #LWN #GNU #Linux #programming [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digging into Julia's package system [LWN.net] [17:24] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.193.214) has joined #techrights [17:25] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@w2d762cxmwcdi.irc) has joined #techrights [17:25] techrights-news "After a new fast-paced action dungeon crawler? Helms of Fury built with #GodotEngine looks like a lot of fun and worth keeping an eye on." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helms-of-fury-is-an-action-rogue-lite-with-a-focus-on-collecting-abilities-and-fast-combat [17:25] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/helms-of-fury-is-an-action-rogue-lite-with-a-focus-on-collecting-abilities-and-fast-combat [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Helms of Fury is an action rogue-lite with a focus on collecting abilities and fast combat | GamingOnLinux [17:25] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/qcoecr/kernel_5149_and_the_corresponding_header_dkms/ [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Kernel 5.14.9 and the corresponding header / dkms dependencies are now available in bullseye-backports : debian [17:26] XRevan86 DaemonFC: As predicted. [17:27] techrights-news Sigh. More #amazon #spam from Syed Asad at #linuxhint today. Title says "Best Laptops for Kali Linux and Pen Testing", but it's a FAKE article, just "affiliate marketing" (spam), googlebombing (for SEO) "Linux" for visibility. Part of a troubling trend: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights [17:27] techrights-news #Kernel: LWNs In-Depth Articles and AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157050 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: LWN's In-Depth Articles and AMD "Smart Trace Buffer" Feature Being Wired Up For Linux | Tux Machines [17:30] techrights-news #Games: RPCS3, Helms of Fury, Himno - The Silent Melody http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157051 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: RPCS3, Helms of Fury, Himno - The Silent Melody | Tux Machines [17:30] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:31] *activelow (~activelow@piunnpr9tdk32.irc) has joined #techrights [17:36] *n has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [17:39] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/XuwleXf [17:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The princess of dorks - Album on Imgur [17:39] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/XuwleXf [17:42] *n-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@eganakf2bu9k2.irc) has joined #techrights [17:48] schestowitz luke k.c. leighton (@lkcl): "this is not a surprise. anyone who has interacted with mozilla projects (particularly from the "outside" and particularly on security issues) has experienced a... extremely weird total lack of engagement and in some instances active and aggressive censorship." | nitter https://nitter.eu/lkcl/status/1450975760790040584 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/21/#latest [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | luke k.c. leighton (@lkcl): "this is not a surprise. anyone who has interacted with mozilla projects (particularly from the "outside" and particularly on security issues) has experienced a... extremely weird total lack of engagement and in some instances active and aggressive censorship." | nitter [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [17:48] schestowitz he used to be my colleague [17:50] DaemonFC https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/05/isp-group-mozilla-internet-villain-dns-privacy/ [17:50] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/05/isp-group-mozilla-internet-villain-dns-privacy/ [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Internet group brands Mozilla internet villain for supporting DNS privacy feature TechCrunch [17:50] DaemonFC It's not a DNS privacy feature. [17:51] DaemonFC It doesn't even gain you any censorship bypass because Mozilla caved to the ISPs and wrote in new code that leaks to them what your lookups are and lets them censor it. [17:51] schestowitz-TR yes [17:51] schestowitz-TR the media coverage at the time was oddly shallow [17:51] schestowitz-TR they just pass people between DNS providers [17:51] schestowitz-TR sometimes to providers outside their home countries [17:51] schestowitz-TR yay, mozilla! [17:52] DaemonFC If you want to change your DNS servers, it should be done systemwide, and at the resolver level. [17:52] DaemonFC That may not make Cloudflare or whoever more private, but it does get this TRR crap out of your way. [17:57] DaemonFC https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22748141 [17:57] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: ycombinator.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22748141 [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | 1.1.1.1 for Families | Hacker News [17:58] DaemonFC "This would have been better if it was a joke. Big welcome to our new moral police, now encoded in two bits of a vanity IP address! Not a word spared for what kind of content is filtered, how they evaluate websites, any kind of appeals process... they did manage to portray it as helping the COVID-19 pandemic relief, though." [17:58] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:59] DaemonFC How do they block "porn" exactly? [17:59] DaemonFC Reddit hosts a lot of porn. [17:59] DaemonFC Do they block all of Reddit? ● Oct 21 [18:00] DaemonFC People can still click on magnet links or put VLC-BitTorrent in and point their program at porn and that probably won't count as looking up a "porn" site, and would eventually get the files from the DHT even if it did. [18:02] DaemonFC What happens when someone installs the Tor Browser and looks at porn with that? [18:02] DaemonFC If you block Tor, then what happens when they use a Tor bridge that makes it look like they're connecting to a website on Azure or AWS? [18:03] DaemonFC If nothing else, someone can dump the tarball for the Tor browser on a flash drive and run it off of that. [18:03] DaemonFC GNOME's Parental Controls has no idea what that is, and CloudFlare DNS with "Family Mode" can't stop it. [18:04] DaemonFC It's just not so easy for parents to outsource their parental responsibilities. [18:04] DaemonFC There's no magic bullet of DNS blocking and "You can't run this, this, or that." and problem solved. [18:05] DaemonFC Entire countries have had their censorship thwarted and people think DNS blocks work? How cute. [18:06] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Apparently, T-Mobile doesn't care what people say about them. [18:06] DaemonFC Comcast at least used to give me "Comcast Susan" leaving comments about how to call 1-800-XFINITY. [18:07] schestowitz-TR maybe they have another approach [18:07] schestowitz-TR Telstra Australia assigns "reps" to uoi [18:07] schestowitz-TR *you [18:07] schestowitz-TR if you mention them in Twitter and it is not positive [18:08] schestowitz-TR our energy supplier does the same [18:08] schestowitz-TR it's easy to see a list of all their "engagements" [18:08] schestowitz-TR which can be quite funny but not good use of your time [18:14] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:14] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [18:19] DaemonFC I had to tell Mandy to get a snack to tide him over until dinner. [18:19] DaemonFC I have to be here when the modem arrives or it'll get stolen. [18:19] DaemonFC Then when the stupid idiot finds out they can't use it, they'll just toss it somewhere and I get hit with another non-return fee. [18:20] DaemonFC You would think that T-Mobile would just send some modems out to their stores. [18:20] DaemonFC You can sign up for their home internet there, but they still send the modem UPS. [18:21] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [18:21] DaemonFC Then you can't return your equipment to them at the store and just have them scan it. [18:21] DaemonFC Has to go back through UPS. [18:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [18:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I've been arguing forever that someone should sue over GPL as a contract. [18:33] DaemonFC I told Bradley Kuhn that (think it was him) when that Samsung blu ray player thing was going on. [18:33] schestowitz-TR [07:32] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- writing.kemitchell.com | GPL Had Better be a Contract /dev/lawyer [18:34] DaemonFC I sent a letter to Samsung's legal department saying I would take them to court over the GPL as an enforceable contract with me, the end user. [18:43] schestowitz-TR I wonder if you can compel them to show you why they bundle Micrsoft crap [18:44] schestowitz-TR I can guess the answer [18:44] schestowitz-TR but I doubt there's a legal basis for you to compel disclosure [18:44] schestowitz-TR sometimes if Microsoft blackmails you and you take this to court you ask ask to see how much others pay them [18:44] schestowitz-TR but Microsoft is a lawyers company [18:44] schestowitz-TR and marketers and gangsters [18:45] schestowitz-TR sometimes they hire some coders too [18:45] schestowitz-TR so I'm sure they wrote contracts that hide all that extortionb [18:45] DaemonFC They eventually posted the tarball of that firmware. [18:45] DaemonFC The device was using XFS and they had made some changes to the file system too. [18:45] schestowitz-TR did you publish it? [18:45] DaemonFC They did. [18:46] DaemonFC I asked Eric Sandeen to look at the XFS stuff. [18:46] DaemonFC brb [18:46] schestowitz-TR oh, they posted it not just for you then [18:48] schestowitz-TR hah [18:48] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:49] *m___ (~Adium@pha8b8frr93ys.irc) has joined #techrights [18:50] schestowitz-TR turns out in wordpress.com I have over 1000 "followers" ● Oct 21 [19:04] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:09] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [19:14] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [19:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [19:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.48 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [19:21] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/mildly-interesting-photos/ [19:21] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/mildly-interesting-photos/ [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 33 Oddly Satisfying Photos Of Interesting Things [19:26] schestowitz-TR MinceR: nice... [19:29] schestowitz zoobab_: imagine if people wrote articles like the comments here http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/19/slovenia-ratifies-ppa-and-unifed-patent-court-agreement/#comments [19:29] schestowitz instead of the Team UPC echo chamber that poisons the #www (spamfarm) [19:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Slovenia ratifies PPA and Unifed Patent Court Agreement - Kluwer Patent Blog [19:50] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PdTXuuLvws [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-golf or not golf? - YouTube [19:50] schestowitz golf or not golf? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6PdTXuuLvws [19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | golf or not golf? - Invidious [19:51] schestowitz MinceR: hole in one ● Oct 21 [20:03] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:03] *inky (~inky@46.36.117.129) has joined #techrights [20:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@myyi6g9ymv4cg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:12] DaemonFC schestowitz, They sent me another trash can. [20:12] DaemonFC This one is an earlier hw revision. [20:12] DaemonFC No power adapter or ethernet cable in the box, and no SIM. [20:13] DaemonFC So I had to swap the SIM card out and this one is working, so far. [20:13] DaemonFC 55.81 Mbps down [20:14] DaemonFC 14.14 Mbps up. [20:14] DaemonFC 31 ms ping [20:14] DaemonFC Good so far. [20:14] DaemonFC That's 4 times faster than the old one was usually managing. [20:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@xht7w44hcyf3w.irc) has joined #techrights [20:49] schestowitz-TR back online? [20:49] schestowitz-TR sounds like good speeds [20:49] DaemonFC Welp, the new modem decided to die immediately. [20:49] schestowitz-TR trash can replaced or swapped in for dumpster fire [20:49] DaemonFC So I'm back on the first one. [20:53] schestowitz-TR we have about 4 or 5 [20:53] schestowitz-TR they keep sending new ones every x years [20:54] DaemonFC Now they're trying to figure out if I can ship the replacement back because it died immediately. [20:57] schestowitz-TR sounds like not-so-fun ● Oct 21 [21:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, I talked to someone from the engineering department. [21:11] DaemonFC He says the problem is overcrowding on the local tower. [21:11] DaemonFC He says he's going to put in a work order for them to come out and expand service on the tower. [21:19] schestowitz-TR sucks [21:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 66.06 swarm size (avg): 259.47 [21:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:26] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:30] MinceR https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2012.html [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids [21:39] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:45] *rianne (~rianne@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [21:49] psymin There was a contributor to a language, ruby, python, perl, something. Years back, maybe six? He was in the news a lot for having the wrong mindset. Anyone remember which language, or what his name was? [21:51] schestowitz-TR dhh? [21:51] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/35jt4iS.jpeg [21:51] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/35jt4iS.jpeg [21:52] psymin Opal! [21:53] schestowitz-TR oh, that Italian person? [21:53] schestowitz-TR who was targeted for wrongthink? [21:55] schestowitz-TR to me, personally, the issue is like this: [21:55] schestowitz-TR 1. in the past we could work alongside people whom we wrongly don't agree with on politics [21:55] schestowitz-TR 2. politics would barely come up [21:55] schestowitz-TR 3. no social control media was a plus [21:55] schestowitz-TR 4. it's OK to berate something over working for company X, e.g. Microsoft [21:56] schestowitz-TR 5. when it's not related to the technical project (e.g. which company one serves) and extends to how one votes in elections a line is crossed [21:56] schestowitz-TR personal life should be seen as separate from work and respected to the extend feasible [21:58] schestowitz-TR where you work, which can explain why you add certain things to the code, is percetly within remit of criticism because it directly impacts work, not just salary [21:59] schestowitz-TR e.g. Microsoft staff inside the so-called 'Linux' Foundation [21:59] psymin Yep, personal life shoudl be seen as separate. [21:59] schestowitz-TR I don't care who they vote for [21:59] schestowitz-TR I care which company pays their salary [21:59] psymin thoughts on the new Mastodon instance and claims of AGPLv3 violations? [21:59] schestowitz-TR funny thing is, [21:59] schestowitz-TR some credit in Twitter today compared me to "Breitbart", clearly ignoring simple facts like me being leftist ● Oct 21 [22:00] schestowitz-TR SPAMNil compared me to Trump [22:00] schestowitz-TR yes, perfect fit. I'm TRUMP! [22:00] schestowitz-TR psymin: the Trump instance? [22:00] schestowitz-TR I only found out today [22:01] schestowitz-TR using AGPL enforcement for selective enforcement and political vendettas isn't good for GPL [22:01] schestowitz-TR if that is what happened... I'm just guessing here [22:02] psymin Yep [22:03] schestowitz-TR it's petty [22:03] schestowitz-TR pathetic almost [22:03] psymin We'll see how it plays out. If he is using Mastodon, I hope he complies with the AGPLv3 [22:03] schestowitz-TR and shows what happens if orgs get hijacked like mozilla [22:03] psymin yep [22:03] schestowitz-TR I oppose Trump [22:03] schestowitz-TR but Mozilla is not supposed to be a political party [22:04] schestowitz-TR be a technical company [22:04] psymin I oppose a lot of stuff. But I'm glad that stuff is running on free software. [22:04] schestowitz-TR "stay in your lane" [22:05] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [22:05] schestowitz-TR many instances of pleroma and mastodon hack a bit here and there [22:05] schestowitz-TR maybe not much [22:05] schestowitz-TR to find a target for enforcement based on politics contributes to the idea GPL is about revenge [22:06] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, They're apparently working on the tower right now. [22:07] schestowitz-TR good [22:07] schestowitz-TR but... [22:07] schestowitz-TR they should not wait until clients complain [22:07] DaemonFC No, they shouldn't. [22:07] schestowitz-TR many people work from home [22:07] schestowitz-TR no connection, no work [22:07] DaemonFC They led me down a rabbit hole where their own customer support people blame the modem and replace it and threaten me with non-return fees. [22:07] schestowitz-TR in my case, I even host some things from home [22:08] DaemonFC Then the replacement modem dies immediately. [22:08] DaemonFC This is crazy. [22:08] schestowitz-TR strike II [22:08] DaemonFC They said send back the replacement. [22:08] DaemonFC It says hw rev 2. The one I had already said hw rev 3. [22:08] schestowitz-TR 400 US$ for defective gear [22:09] DaemonFC That tells me it's someone else's old modem and they probably returned it because it broke down. [22:09] DaemonFC Now they're sending it to me. [22:09] schestowitz-TR maybe they shuffle it around between clients to pretend they do SOMETHING [22:09] schestowitz-TR yes, you beat me to it [22:09] schestowitz-TR I have many spare/unused ones [22:10] schestowitz-TR but it's for UK IPSs [22:10] schestowitz-TR I'd have sent one to you [22:10] schestowitz-TR it would panic like mad... WTH am I doing in a US network????? [22:10] DaemonFC It's a 5G modem and they locked their network so just sticking the sim card in something else doesn't work. [22:11] DaemonFC "German youth protection" [22:11] DaemonFC Is under the Medium category in Web Guard. [22:12] DaemonFC "Adult themes, nudity, sexuality, pornography, tasteless, child abuse content (CAC) / internet watch foundation, safe search" [22:12] DaemonFC tasteless? [22:12] DaemonFC High [22:12] DaemonFC Everything below in Low and Medium, plus the following categories [22:12] DaemonFC Chat, instant messaging, webmail, forums/message boards [22:12] DaemonFC File storage, P2P / file sharing, photo sharing, social networking, video sharing, visual search engines, classifieds, blog [22:12] DaemonFC Games [22:12] DaemonFC Ah, the "block the entire Web" setting. [22:13] DaemonFC Very nice. Thanks T-Mobile! [22:13] MinceR [Message edited due to tasteless content] [22:13] DaemonFC They can outsource it to Mozilla. [22:13] DaemonFC Mitchell Baker can just tell everyone what's tasteless, politically unacceptable, and pornographic. [22:14] schestowitz Today my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wont work for some reason. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/today-my-t-mobile-galaxy-s20-fe-5g-decided-that-the-ringer-wont-work-for-some-reason/ [22:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Today my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wont work for some reason. BaronHK's Rants [22:14] DaemonFC rungs [22:14] DaemonFC rings [22:14] DaemonFC :P [22:15] DaemonFC I missed an important call from Mandy's dentist and had to call them back. [22:16] DaemonFC schestowitz, I enable AMP on my blog just because it's an option if people want to use it. [22:16] DaemonFC I don't really see the point in turning it off. [22:16] schestowitz-TR AMP is dead [22:16] schestowitz-TR like Adobe Trash [22:17] schestowitz-TR don't offer dead things as option [22:17] schestowitz-TR we need to eradicate these [22:17] DaemonFC Why were people trying to get Flash from a server in China? [22:17] schestowitz-TR old sites [22:17] schestowitz-TR some employers still use stuff with adobe trash in it [22:17] schestowitz-TR browsers became so complex [22:18] schestowitz-TR that they have something like adobe trash build in [22:18] schestowitz-TR but it's controlled by google et al [22:18] schestowitz-TR fake 'standards'... in 1500MB of source code to build [22:19] DaemonFC Hmm, flipped AMP off. [22:19] schestowitz-TR I "followed you" [22:19] schestowitz-TR in wordpress.com [22:19] schestowitz-TR first time I do this, I think [22:19] schestowitz-TR turns out I have over 1000 "followers" there [22:20] schestowitz-TR of course those are virtual craps... subscribers... friends... followers [22:20] DaemonFC One of Maricel's family members started questioning him today. [22:20] schestowitz-TR people collect them like they mean a thing [22:20] schestowitz-TR in a site controlled by some private firm [22:20] DaemonFC Was in Walmart and backed him into a corner and started asking if he was a citizen and where did he live and stuff. [22:21] schestowitz-TR maybe Maricel is a crack addict already [22:21] schestowitz-TR you know what it's lik when you rack up $300,000 in debt [22:21] DaemonFC She acted like one already. [22:21] schestowitz-TR and crack is expensive [22:22] schestowitz-TR anyway, back on topic [22:22] schestowitz-TR re wordpress.com [22:22] schestowitz-TR I only get posted there stuff I put in diaspora [22:22] schestowitz-TR got a few million hits [22:22] schestowitz-TR with no extra effort from me [22:22] schestowitz-TR I am one of the first 10 users of wordpress.com [22:23] schestowitz-TR I was a beta tested in a closed beta group [22:23] schestowitz-TR *tester [22:23] schestowitz-TR 2005ish [22:23] schestowitz-TR wordpress.com became such a force [22:23] schestowitz-TR that typepad is almost dead now [22:23] schestowitz-TR blogger is blogspot [22:24] schestowitz-TR msn spaces (Microsoft) was absorbed by wordpress.com [22:24] schestowitz-TR and they say wordpress powers about 40% of the www [22:26] leah schestowitz-TR: i will not be launching savegnu.org [22:26] schestowitz-TR that's OK [22:26] leah i've decided that it is not worth my time. the gnu assembly was all bark and no bite [22:26] schestowitz-TR keep the domain [22:27] schestowitz-TR maybe GNU Save is your next project [22:27] schestowitz-TR alternative to Pocket [22:27] leah launching it would be pointless, and may actually strengthen our enemies [22:27] schestowitz-TR GNU Save [22:27] schestowitz-TR your locally-hosted and saved bookmarks ;) [22:27] leah what the hell is Pocket [22:27] schestowitz-TR a mozilla "product" [22:27] MinceR a proprietary firefox extension you didn't know you wanted [22:27] MinceR but mozilla knows you did! [22:27] leah mozilla can eat a penis [22:27] MinceR hopefully not mine [22:28] schestowitz-TR mozilla has eaten its own [22:28] schestowitz-TR it ruins its own products [22:28] leah i've decided not to get too involved with gnu/fsf affairs. they can deal with their own problems [22:28] schestowitz-TR and fires engs that matter [22:28] leah they don't need *me* [22:28] schestowitz-TR because they don't directly bring in money [22:29] schestowitz-TR who will get that coveted fsf job, I wonder... [22:29] leah whatever happened? [22:29] schestowitz-TR leah: you're the only one I know who applied [22:29] leah back in the 90s, we didn't need money [22:29] leah we just wrote code [22:29] leah well, i was a kid in the 90s [22:29] leah but still [22:29] schestowitz-TR FSF should hire baker [22:30] schestowitz-TR to do gpl enforcement against trump [22:30] schestowitz-TR but FSF will run out of budget within 3 months [22:30] leah i've stopped caring about the fsf for now, and i told them i no longer wish to be executive director [22:30] leah that was months ago [22:30] leah i have a feeling that John Sullivan is going to remain in his post [22:30] leah and try to quietly do it [22:30] schestowitz-TR the 3 million dollars (plus) whiz kid expected a monthly salary north of a quarter million [22:31] schestowitz-TR leah: I hope so [22:31] schestowitz-TR JohnS knows the job well [22:31] leah yeah and if he does, i want nothing to do with the fsf [22:31] schestowitz-TR he doesn't fancy me much either [22:31] leah i told him, to his face, publicly on #fsf during the rms reinstatement drama of march 2021, that i disapprove of him [22:31] schestowitz-TR if you know what I mean.... I'm not corporate-friendly enough [22:32] leah i called him a "protoplasmic jelly", referring to his head-in-the-sand tendency whenever a crisis happens [22:32] leah he dithered about RMS in 2019, and in 2021, offering no defense or opposition, he just stood silence. it was non-leadership [22:32] schestowitz-TR the situation was not simple to be air... [22:32] leah he's a pencil pusher leading what should be a revolutionary organisation [22:32] schestowitz-TR *fair [22:33] schestowitz-TR and any statement made would be fodder for an irrational mob [22:33] schestowitz-TR well, pencil pusher can be OK [22:33] schestowitz-TR RMS is the molotov cocktail thrower [22:33] schestowitz-TR JohnS is the business rep [22:34] schestowitz-TR like Peter Brown [22:34] leah i have zero faith in the current FSF [22:34] schestowitz-TR is he still in w3c? [22:34] schestowitz-TR he seems to have mostly gone off the radar... I checked years ago, Jaffe is still there [22:34] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:34] leah when they have a new executive directory, i will reevaluate my position [22:34] schestowitz-TR wait [22:34] schestowitz-TR I can set one upo [22:34] schestowitz-TR $ mkdir executive [22:34] leah director* [22:34] MinceR i have zero faith in them as well [22:34] schestowitz-TR cd exeuctive [22:34] schestowitz-TR there [22:35] leah schestowitz-TR: uk is an ireland [22:35] schestowitz-TR mkdir ireland_of_britain [22:35] leah an ireland to the east of the north atlantic sea [22:35] schestowitz-TR sudo chown borisnaro ireland_of_britain [22:36] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@6adwzmq8ck994.irc) has joined #techrights [22:36] leah well, you could also interpret what i wrote and do: [22:36] leah mkdir directory [22:36] leah chmod -R +x directory [22:37] schestowitz-TR anyway, FSF is FSF [22:37] schestowitz-TR it has its own issues [22:37] schestowitz-TR many overlapping goals with ours [22:37] schestowitz-TR focus on libreboot [22:37] schestowitz-TR keep it gnu [22:37] schestowitz-TR and let fsf be fsf [22:37] leah my policy has been this: [22:37] leah maintain good relations [22:37] leah but don't get too close [22:37] leah i've decided that i got too close this year. and now i'm stepping back a bit [22:38] schestowitz-TR fair enough [22:38] leah that way, if anything goes wrong, it wn't be me holding the bag [22:39] schestowitz-TR I lost some links to people for defendin RMS [22:39] schestowitz-TR which is expected when some people have distorted views [22:39] leah who cares [22:39] leah i estimate that he has about 70-80% public approval [22:39] schestowitz-TR or when you're compelled to defend some of the dumber things rms said or did over the years, like the temper tamtrums [22:39] activelow has there been anything substantial to accuse RMS of anything? [22:39] leah everyone says dumb shit, and does dumb things [22:40] schestowitz-TR activelow: he has some flaws [22:40] schestowitz-TR we all have some [22:40] leah live and let live [22:40] schestowitz-TR I try to keep myself scandal-free [22:40] schestowitz-TR when you express difficult views, you become a target [22:41] leah anyway [22:41] leah schestowitz-TR: the reason i chose to inform you of my decision, is because i sense you were expecting something of me [22:41] schestowitz-TR RMS has had 4 decades narrowed down to some single "tweet" he wrote on underage age of consent and something he put in his mouth [22:41] leah because i talked about the project. but i'm cancelling it [22:41] leah it will not launch [22:41] leah but i will keep the domain name [22:41] leah i may change my mind, but it,s doubtful [22:42] schestowitz-TR yes, maybe rianne will do a conservation site ;) [22:42] schestowitz-TR save tghe gnus!! [22:42] AdmFubar damn all sorts of weather hell breaking out near me... severe thunderstorms, an several tornadoes... [22:42] schestowitz-TR leah: heck, maybe andy will take it off you [22:42] schestowitz-TR to save HIS gnu [22:42] schestowitz-TR the fake one [22:42] schestowitz-TR our fake is dying, SAVE IT!! please! [22:43] schestowitz-TR or was it ingo? [22:43] schestowitz-TR I'm not sure who even leads fakeGNU(TM) [22:43] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: must be covid's fault [22:44] leah i think the extent to which i got involved was optimal. defending rms in march 2021 was the right thing to do [22:44] AdmFubar then covid has been around a lot longer that reported... [22:44] schestowitz-TR it aged well [22:44] leah getting more involved would be a mistake [22:44] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/10/07/ibm-vs-fsf-is-a-failure/ [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Declares Defeat/Failure, Shuts Down Campaign of Anti-Richard Stallman Rhetoric (Defamation) | Techrights [22:44] leah it would not be useful. and i do have a life [22:45] leah i put my life on hold for 1 month straight, during march/april [22:45] leah and then for a few weeks during the libera shit [22:45] leah getting involved in other peoples dramas is not worth it [22:45] schestowitz https://netsplit.de/servers/?net=Libera.Chat [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [22:46] leah rms was a special case. i only did it to right past wrongs on my part. he deserved my support, and had earned the right [22:46] schestowitz "During last connections to Libera.Chat its servers reported an average of 46860 users and 20685 chat rooms." [22:46] schestowitz XRevan86: only 46k? [22:46] leah schestowitz: my problem with savegnu was always: what would be the scope of the project? [22:46] leah schestowitz: what would it say? [22:46] schestowitz I thought it had approached 50k [22:47] leah i got excited one day and registered it. but afterwards, real life took over. i've been too busy with real life anyway. and events seem to have stabilized [22:47] schestowitz-TR save implies trouble/crisis [22:47] leah exactly [22:47] schestowitz-TR I know some people who think gnu is doomed, but I don't agree with them [22:47] leah i decided it wasn't worth pursuing. precisely because there is no longer a crisis [22:47] schestowitz-TR gnu is used more than ever [22:47] leah gnu isn't doomed [22:47] schestowitz-TR github misinformation wars cloud the real reach of gpl too [22:48] schestowitz-TR and fsf has a good bank balance, iirc [22:48] leah however, we were all riding high from the events of march 2021 [22:48] schestowitz-TR because of some large donationd [22:48] leah and then we all had to come down from that high [22:48] leah savegnu was created during the high [22:48] leah i think fsf and gnu will be fine [22:48] leah people know not to mess with it now. because they can see it failed [22:49] leah and by it, i mean their attempts to mess with it [22:49] schestowitz-TR save gnu can become a mirror of gnu [22:49] schestowitz-TR like archive [22:49] schestowitz-TR saves of pages [22:49] leah hence all the resignations, and redhat getting their knickers in a twist [22:49] schestowitz-TR maybe gemini.savegnu.org/somepage [22:49] schestowitz-TR I suggested gemini to gnu and fsf [22:49] leah or i can redirect it to rms.sexy [22:49] schestowitz-TR they were too busy with the crisis, never got around to it [22:49] leah :P [22:49] leah have you seen rms.sexy [22:50] schestowitz-TR leah: red hat loses tons of staff [22:50] schestowitz-TR also top level manager [22:50] schestowitz-TR the media is dead [22:50] schestowitz-TR so nobody reports this [22:50] activelow how sad, tried today gemini.kernel.org ... nothing [22:50] leah https://rms.sexy/ [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms.sexy | Our GNU/Lord and GNU/Savior is 100% sexy! [22:50] schestowitz-TR leah: I saw that ages ago [22:50] schestowitz-TR it's not helping when people use that narrative [22:50] DaemonFC https://aomediacodec.github.io/av1-avif/ [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aomediacodec.github.io | AV1 Image File Format (AVIF) [22:51] DaemonFC Netflix and Microsoft. [22:51] DaemonFC Oh boy! [22:51] schestowitz-TR because his views on that subject are controversial enough already [22:51] schestowitz-TR AV1 is a patent trap [22:55] schestowitz-TR apropis: [22:55] schestowitz-TR *pos [22:56] schestowitz #torproject adds another anti- #rms and anti- Torvalds person https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.html #tor [22:56] -altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.html [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Going to work for the Tor Project [22:56] schestowitz-TR a lot of those cambridge debianistas worry me [22:57] schestowitz-TR sometimes I wonder if they just want CESG "access" or something [22:57] schestowitz-TR they also form a sort of cabal [22:59] DaemonFC "That Tor is mostly written in C is quite terrifying, and I'm very happy that I'm going to help fix that!" [22:59] DaemonFC Move it over to a Microsoft-controlled language. [22:59] schestowitz-TR :-D ● Oct 21 [23:00] schestowitz-TR link? [23:00] DaemonFC For what? [23:00] activelow the link you posted yourself schestowitz-TR [23:00] schestowitz-TR it that when he blogged too? [23:00] schestowitz-TR oh, yes, he was shilling rustlang lately [23:00] activelow this guy wants to rewrite tor with rust-lang [23:00] schestowitz-TR cargo cult for essential tool [23:00] schestowitz-TR NSA foaming at the mouth, salivating [23:00] schestowitz-TR maybe also move tor to github [23:00] schestowitz-TR to attract kids who don't know how to code [23:02] activelow tbh i would be curious of the tor binary and kernel are sufficiently secure, to prevent privilege escalation here [23:02] activelow if [23:03] schestowitz-TR Tor "APP" [23:03] schestowitz-TR coming soooooon [23:03] schestowitz-TR TOR, cool man!! [23:03] schestowitz-TR Scan the QR cide [23:04] schestowitz-TR get "the app" [23:04] schestowitz-TR scan your finger and face to log in [23:05] activelow tor browser was bad enough already, to tell people this was a good thing [23:07] schestowitz-TR firefox [23:07] schestowitz-TR tor must see that as a liability [23:07] schestowitz-TR if not, also considering the fact they cooperate with DDG (Microsoft gateway), assume it's compromised [23:07] schestowitz-TR Tor was taken over by politicians [23:07] schestowitz-TR they repel the rebels [23:07] schestowitz-TR and become more establishment [23:07] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights (Leaving.) [23:08] schestowitz-TR I stopped using tor ages ago [23:08] schestowitz-TR slowing myself down and I'm not even sure if there's material gain (privacy) [23:08] activelow i am using it, but not together with any common browser [23:08] schestowitz-TR nsa et al can rely not on tor for holes [23:09] schestowitz-TR but on something elsewhere in the stack, inc. os [23:09] schestowitz-TR not just web browser [23:09] activelow web browser is the weakest part in the chain [23:09] schestowitz-TR bloated [23:10] schestowitz-TR they're like an OS [23:10] schestowitz-TR with a whole expressive canvass fraemwork [23:10] schestowitz-TR it's like adobe trash [23:10] schestowitz-TR drm is icing on this shitcake [23:11] activelow unlawful interceptiong [23:11] activelow unlawful interception [23:11] activelow by unauthorized entities [23:11] activelow i am not concerned about DRM at all personally, because no DMCA related material is involved anyway [23:12] activelow it is the bad quality, bad implementation of it [23:13] schestowitz-TR DRM is a big deal [23:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, it goes in waves. [23:13] schestowitz-TR if they place some binary blob in your browser [23:13] schestowitz-TR iirc, mozilla uses one from adove [23:14] schestowitz-TR *adobe [23:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I'm sure joseon is back to 20k users;-) [23:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: 18k [23:14] schestowitz-TR except the k [23:15] schestowitz-TR for korea [23:15] schestowitz-TR 1 the k [23:15] schestowitz-TR it would be funny when/if root left that network [23:15] schestowitz-TR for the "citizens" to talk to each other [23:15] activelow stardict is interesting, however, i rather not bother with any issues and simply don't use any of it [23:16] activelow i had noticed, apple implemented similar functionality [23:17] schestowitz Bad artists copy. Great artists steal. [23:17] schestowitz Pablo Picasso [23:17] schestowitz "We've always been shameless about stealing great ideas." [23:17] schestowitz Steve Jobs [23:18] schestowitz video: http://techrights.org/2010/03/04/shameless-about-stealing-great-ideas/ [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Steve Jobs Motto Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal? | Techrights [23:19] activelow ironically, the best what's supposed to be stolen is available, in books [23:19] activelow and libraries [23:19] schestowitz-TR you can copy [23:19] activelow but this required, efforts, to read those [23:19] schestowitz-TR just doon't destroy the originals [23:19] activelow see there, is the university schedule, there is the library [23:20] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 33.53 swarm size (avg): 259.48 [23:20] activelow although, forgot to mention, a professor at university cannot be had for nothing [23:21] activelow that's why, i keep calm and watch the shit show, post election gossip in germany [23:21] schestowitz merkel is all schtum [23:21] activelow 15years [23:23] schestowitz-TR how is that allowed? [23:23] schestowitz-TR hitler did 12 [23:23] activelow misunderstanding, wasn't referring to Angela M. [23:24] schestowitz-TR ah, ok [23:24] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:27] activelow i had seen the German university maths compendium, on amazon, for less than 5Euros, 1000pages [23:27] activelow brand new it was ~90Euros [23:28] schestowitz-TR ripoffs [23:28] schestowitz-TR how ironic a name too [23:28] schestowitz-TR amazon [23:28] schestowitz-TR for company that kills trees [23:28] schestowitz-TR selling them with ink marks for huge profit [23:29] activelow in total, rough estimate, the literature for a 5years university course, would cost less than 1000Euros for books and equipment, to reach a competitive level [23:30] activelow what's killing this idea is rents and costs of living [23:34] activelow schestowitz-TR: it is a *murderous* regime in germany [23:35] schestowitz-TR vastly better than neighbours to your east [23:37] schestowitz-TR activelow: we went to Berlin 3 winters ago [23:37] schestowitz-TR were not impressed [23:37] schestowitz-TR but it was winter... and BERLIN [23:37] schestowitz-TR at least we got to see the pandas [23:41] activelow the "intellectual property" are the scientists, engineers, students [23:42] schestowitz-TR if only people were property [23:42] schestowitz-TR or "human resource" [23:42] schestowitz-TR IBM thinks it owns the employees [23:42] schestowitz-TR "100% of the time' [23:43] schestowitz-TR and then they go on lecturing of against saying "master" [23:43] schestowitz-TR this PR charade mostly failed [23:43] schestowitz-TR they stopped it months ago [23:43] activelow master is the designation of a craftsman, with the permission to teach students [23:43] schestowitz-TR trolling the community is not a good idea, IBM [23:44] schestowitz-TR like blackbelt [23:44] schestowitz-TR many textbooks are not out of date [23:44] schestowitz-TR their examples refer to master [23:45] schestowitz-TR and some have since then changed, e.g. "main" [23:45] activelow you see, i was worried about catching up with the laplace transformation, in parallel to a mountain of other things lectured in parallel (as if signal processing wasn't enough) [23:45] schestowitz-TR as in main() [23:45] schestowitz-TR that can lead to confusion [23:47] activelow and i didn't depart because of "intellectual property", i didn't appreciate being subject to "social engineering" as a lab rat [23:48] schestowitz-TR "social engineering" is a minsnomer [23:48] schestowitz-TR take time to dissect the term [23:48] schestowitz-TR like "hey hi" and "hi pee" (IP), it doesn't make sense [23:48] schestowitz-TR "human resource" is another [23:48] schestowitz-TR they mix totally unconnected concepts [23:48] activelow although, the worst psychotic wasn't telekom-related, it was the AIESEC organization and some of their affiliates involved [23:50] activelow and the related mindset, which seeks to steer tech corporations based on ideology, instead of, technology [23:51] activelow same with politics and economics, which must fit into an ideolgical framework first and foremost [23:51] activelow and it's all hijacked and controlled by this [23:52] activelow but once they run out of engineers and university staff who would lecture engineering instead of gender mainstreaming, then the fun begins [23:52] activelow not entirely sure yet, why the last remaining telekom university planned to terminate their schedule [23:53] schestowitz-TR not sure how they teach these days [23:53] schestowitz-TR I heard too much frameworks [23:53] schestowitz-TR not enough computer basicsa [23:53] schestowitz-TR like they train people for products, without them knowing how things actually work [23:54] schestowitz-TR as a side note [23:54] activelow the telekom lecture i had to follow was chaotic already, which was only compensated by the fact the university staff was competent [23:54] schestowitz-TR an overlooked aspect [23:54] schestowitz-TR which is non-P-C [23:54] activelow otherwise, it was totally crazy, 15 years ago already [23:54] schestowitz-TR women participation in the workforce is connected to lowering of salaries [23:54] activelow no need to worry about "intellectual property" anymore [23:54] schestowitz-TR so the expectation is, in a couple both must work, esp. to feed and raise kids [23:54] schestowitz-TR the employers get two staff for the price of one [23:55] schestowitz-TR and we have tons of automation in place [23:55] schestowitz-TR so we don't need this over-supply of labour [23:55] activelow it is true, there was only few women, 4 or 5, but this wasn't related to any inappropriate behaviour, wasn't aware of any at all [23:55] schestowitz-TR "intellectual property" is just means for raising prices [23:55] schestowitz-TR and coming up for justifications [23:55] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [23:55] schestowitz-TR factor worker: $2 an hour [23:55] activelow there wasn't any "masculin toxicity" or similar, none, nothing, i would know [23:55] schestowitz-TR phone: 200-1500 US dollars [23:56] schestowitz-TR activelow: that's a whole other can of worms [23:56] schestowitz-TR let's get back to tech if possible [23:56] schestowitz-TR but equality means equality [23:57] schestowitz-TR I'd call it equality is many hunsbands stay home with the kids while the wife goes to work [23:57] schestowitz-TR in reality, gender roles are biologically connected [23:59] schestowitz-TR to go more in tech (topic) [23:59] schestowitz-TR now the employers have new buzzwords [23:59] schestowitz-TR like devsecop [23:59] schestowitz-TR is is security? [23:59] schestowitz-TR development? [23:59] schestowitz-TR sys admin? [23:59] schestowitz-TR not the same thing [23:59] schestowitz-TR they try to roll together many different duties [23:59] schestowitz-TR develop software at daytime