●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 21, 2026 ●●
● Oct 21
[00:01]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, In fact, the thruster on the back would have made things worse.
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	Not right away.
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	They took off from a vertical angle. So at first it would have given them speed and lift.
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	But not enough to clear the ravine.
[00:02]	IsambardPrince	But then it would have given them speed with no lift.
[00:03]	IsambardPrince	Which means they would miss the jump and slam in the cliff wall at over 100 miles an hour instead of just falling to the bottom of the ravine.
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[00:18]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Next week I'm making Ram-Don from the movie Parasite.
[00:19]	IsambardPrince	I have the noodles and the seasoning, now I just need to pick up some steak at Sam's Club.
[00:20]	cybershow	"Linux has become too big" :  whatever happened to compiling your own kernel? I used to do it 20 years ago. Did that become infeasible? Surely there are many versions of 'the kernel' around with more or less capabilities? Isn't there a lite Linux kernel that has most of the cruft and bloat removed? 
[00:26]	MinceR	last time i tried, just wading through menuconfig is a multi-day affair
[00:26]	MinceR	s/is/was/
[00:26]	MinceR	linux was turned into a bloat planet
[00:29]	cybershow	It certainly has MinceR :) But it's not beyond the realms of feasinility for someone to write a script or - god forbid a 'prompt' - to do all the heavy lifing and offer a range of much lighter kernels or ones that cut out more controversial or unwanted functions. Isn't that the whole point of open source and modular deign? But I'm puzzled that I don't see anyone doing that.
[00:30]	cybershow	or even talking about it
[00:30]	MinceR	the one related project i'm aware of is linux-libre, which removes blobs
[00:30]	cybershow	aha yes
[00:31]	cybershow	but y'know what I@m saying.... there's a kind of helpless take it or leave it (in entirety) mentality going around. 
[00:32]	cybershow	I'm surprised not to see copious Linux forks and variations
[00:32]	MinceR	linux is enormous and vulns are found all the time, making it a very costly proposition to fork and maintain
[00:33]	cybershow	all part of the paradox of "big claims, few results" around "AI"
[00:33]	cybershow	but again, machines could do the heavy lifting, if all is to be believed
[00:34]	cybershow	and if it's simply too big for that o happen, its failed
[00:34]	cybershow	Linus has failed as a software developer
[00:34]	cybershow	to "maintain" a state of affordable and manageable complexity
[00:34]	IsambardPrince	I don't think it's within the scope of Linux-Libre to remove Rust, bad code, and AI slop.
[00:34]	MinceR	indeed
[00:34]	IsambardPrince	Just anything where the license header is "nonfree".
[00:35]	cybershow	perhaps it should (or could ) be 
[00:35]	cybershow	if there's a genuine demand for that
[00:35]	IsambardPrince	Well the problem at this point is that the decay has become so pervasive that entire hardware drivers depend on AI slop, bad code, non-free firmware, and Rust.
[00:35]	IsambardPrince	Any or all of that.
[00:36]	IsambardPrince	Especially if you're trying to run a Linux distribution on a Mac.
[00:36]	cybershow	surely there are hundreds of companies building custom kernels 
[00:36]	cybershow	for embeded applications and so on
[00:36]	IsambardPrince	There's probably someone out there that is still using a Linux 2.6 kernel in production if they can get away with it.
[00:37]	cybershow	are none of them contributing anything back to sensible development path?
[00:37]	cybershow	When do you think it went bad? (out of control)
[00:40]	cybershow	For example, a sensible subset might be just removing anything that panders to very restrictive non-free hardware and Microsoft specific functions - just an example of where to trim
[00:41]	cybershow	Otherwise Linux is dying by agreeable acquiesence to non-aligned interests
[00:41]	MinceR	i think it went bad when microslop took over, using greg kroah-hartman as figurehead and CoC as tool/excuse
[00:42]	cybershow	in plainer languge of Morrisey ; why do I give valuable time to people who don't care if I live or die? Fuck those people
[00:42]	MinceR	though by then they've already thoroughly fucked the userland
[00:43]	cybershow	wouldn't an "AI" prompt strip out everything that this kroah-hartman ever contributed?
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[00:43]	cybershow	What I'm saying is there's a strong case to rescu Linux kernel (from what I'm hearing) and I;m confused why nobody is talking about practical options
[00:43]	MinceR	it isn't limited to his "contributions", it has to do with him taking the figurehead role for a while, and being second-in-command before and after
[00:44]	cybershow	defective and treacherous leadership is the problem?
[00:45]	MinceR	that, and corporate control
[00:45]	cybershow	what pressure can be brought to force out moles?
[00:45]	cybershow	how do corporations exert control?
[00:45]	cybershow	is it money?
[00:45]	MinceR	at this point it's futile
[00:46]	MinceR	the masses have built into the "microslop <3 linux" bullshit and the SJW bullshit, along with the CoC bullshit
[00:46]	cybershow	whenever someone says that I hear "its an important tactical  challenge" :)
[00:46]	MinceR	s/built/bought/
[00:46]	cybershow	sounds defeatist. sounds like they need someone or something to scare them
[00:47]	MinceR	the whole purpose of the "Linux Foundation" was to corrupt torvalds and the other important Linux developers with tons of money from microslop
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[00:47]	MinceR	no, what this planet needs is a meteoroid
[00:47]	cybershow	so how does one destroy the "Linux FOundation"?
[00:47]	MinceR	humans are a failure, it's time to hand the field over to something else
[00:47]	cybershow	I'm a human, dude! :)
[00:47]	MinceR	humans have failed in pretty much every conceivable way
[00:47]	MinceR	sadly, i'm also stuck in a human body
[00:47]	MinceR	but there's nothing i can do
[00:47]	MinceR	i'm not rich, i don't have ASPD or NPD
[00:48]	MinceR	all i can do is see a bunch of nutcases ruin everything with the support of the evil masses (who have authoritarian personality type)
[00:48]	cybershow	Well. i'm not personally asking you to do loads of stuff mate :)
[00:48]	cybershow	Great things happen by inspiring others. Especially young people.
[00:49]	cybershow	They usually just need the problems explaining to them
[00:49]	MinceR	but as far as linux goes, allegedly one laptop with an RTX 5090 could provide sufficient power to adapt/develop security fixes in a Linux hard fork as the vulnerabilities are found upstream
[00:49]	MinceR	well, most are "inspired" to maintain a failed society and make it even more off a hell
[00:49]	cybershow	Like why the "Linuc FOundation" is full of failed traitors and a roadmap forward to take back Linux
[00:50]	MinceR	the free software community is practically gone, the majority of the ones who existed see nothing wrong with corporate control
[00:50]	MinceR	so the question is, if the community is gone, who is going to maintain a Linux fork?
[00:50]	cybershow	Aha ... as you say... "allegedly one laptop with an RTX 5090 could" The absence of action is evidence of something important here
[00:50]	MinceR	not to mention everything else
[00:51]	MinceR	well, to many people the slop route would be unacceptable
[00:51]	cybershow	"free software community is practically gone" : O don't belive that 
[00:51]	MinceR	and the alternative to that is to have willing humans do it, but they don't seem to exist
[00:51]	cybershow	sorry I don't
[00:51]	cybershow	Otherwise why are we here on a channel called techrights :)
[00:52]	MinceR	there's 63 of us, with many duplicates and some bots
[00:52]	cybershow	that's a great start
[00:52]	cybershow	Last week I met a guy who claims he vibe coded an operating system
[00:53]	cybershow	If 1/1000 of what he said is true, we're in a different game now
[00:53]	cybershow	because this dude is a chef, and his mate is a plumber
[00:53]	cybershow	if kids are doing that, with no CS skills, we are wasting our time moaning about Linus and whatever
[00:54]	MinceR	maybe
[00:54]	cybershow	even a little teeny maybe is a huge amount of hope
[00:54]	cybershow	think about it
[00:54]	cybershow	I'd love you to tell me what you think of the episode when I mix it
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[00:55]	cybershow	there is new energy out there
[00:55]	cybershow	and most of it is under 20
[00:55]	cybershow	Gen z and now even some advanced Aplhagen (12 years +)
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[00:56]	cybershow	Linus can go and guck jimself
[00:56]	cybershow	Let the new kids take the wheel
[00:57]	MinceR	meanwhile the suits are shitting into the hardware and also into the Internet
[00:57]	MinceR	so we'd need to rebuild those too
[00:57]	cybershow	Question: what is the minimal working kernel for a non-Broadcom SBC like Banana Pi?
[00:58]	MinceR	\_()_/
[00:58]	MinceR	i had little luck with SBCs
[00:58]	cybershow	woah one job at a time cowboy! :)
[00:58]	MinceR	yeah, and the ones we don't do fuck our lives up
[00:58]	cybershow	i do love SBCs, I did a lot of work using Pi zeros a few years ago
[00:59]	MinceR	if humans weren't so fucking useless, this would be a doable job
● Oct 21
[01:00]	MinceR	yeah, i loved SBCs too, until i found out that RPis run ThreadX on the GPU, their default OS has systemd and phones home to microslop every time you do apt update, and the other SBCs tend to have "support" to the extent of "here's an ubuntu image that booted once, now get lost"
[01:00]	cybershow	we aren't useless, were oppressed, depressed, learned helplessness - all of that is transcendable
[01:00]	MinceR	most humans assist our oppressors in oppressing us
[01:00]	MinceR	but yeah, a meteoroid or a GRB would help us transcend it
[01:00]	cybershow	I checked that claim by sniffing the wire below packe level using a logic analyser in place of wireshark... nos such traffic
[01:01]	cybershow	we are often victims of a type of propaganda called "sapping" (trust me I studied this stiff formally)
[01:02]	cybershow	Its designed to breed hopelessness and defeatism
[01:02]	cybershow	but there's a counter-propaganda playbook too 
[01:03]	MinceR	and now i'm reminded that the alleged "security" of most of our communications relies on something that's probably deliberately broken by design: PKI
[01:03]	MinceR	and there's no interest even in patching around it
[01:03]	MinceR	your bank could give you a card with the fingerprint of their CA certificate, but they don't
[01:03]	MinceR	but hey, at least their app makes sure to refuse to run on a device that is not locked into the manufacturer's blob
[01:04]	MinceR	21 020138 < cybershow> we are often victims of a type of propaganda called "sapping" (trust me I studied this stiff formally)
[01:04]	MinceR	well, it's working very well
[01:04]	cybershow	How would you counter it?
[01:04]	MinceR	i suppose most of the population supporting the oppression makes it easy
[01:05]	MinceR	i don't know, maybe developing a WMD that rids the planet of humans
[01:05]	cybershow	I have no evidence that "most of the population support" it
[01:05]	MinceR	well, for starters, afaict about half of the population supports putin
[01:05]	MinceR	and there are authoritarians of different stripes too
[01:05]	cybershow	perhaps most of the population are merely ignorant, which is an understandable and fixanle situation
[01:06]	MinceR	also, all states are more authoritarian than they need to be, and the people support them
[01:06]	cybershow	I have never met one person who supports putin
[01:06]	MinceR	i think most of the population has authoritarian personality type
[01:06]	MinceR	where do you live?
[01:06]	cybershow	not even Ruskies I know :)
[01:06]	cybershow	in the UK, in England
[01:07]	MinceR	well, nigel farage admires putin and has many supporters
[01:07]	cybershow	plenty of Russians, really nice people, smart people, laugh at putin 
[01:07]	cybershow	I don't know Nigel Farage. He's a dick in my opinion
[01:08]	cybershow	people believe all sorts of stuff. but never go out and talk to others
[01:08]	cybershow	go out and talk to loads of people, its not what you think
[01:08]	MinceR	"Reform UK is polling around 22%"
[01:09]	cybershow	probably
[01:09]	cybershow	mabe Reform have some great ideas
[01:09]	MinceR	yeah, like supporting the genocide putin is perpetrating
[01:09]	cybershow	maybe many of the people who like Reform are decent people
[01:09]	MinceR	given the increase in global population, more humans support nazism now than ever before, including around and during ww2
[01:10]	MinceR	i don't think being a decent person is compatible with supporting a ruscist party
[01:10]	MinceR	and it certainly doesn't give me any faith in the species
[01:10]	cybershow	did you ask any? ... what I;'m saying is you can't jump to dire conclusions about the humanity of others because of what you  hear on propaganda channels. faith in each other is all we have
[01:11]	MinceR	i wouldn't rely overly much on shallow impressions of whether someone is nice or not
[01:11]	cybershow	Man I had an awkward dinner part once with a bunch of Trunp supporters from the black sheep side of the family
[01:11]	cybershow	dinner party from hell :)
[01:11]	MinceR	i can see how the masses vote, what the masses respond on opinion polls
[01:11]	MinceR	i can see how society works as a result
[01:12]	cybershow	but I still love those dudes
[01:12]	MinceR	i can see the (usually high) approval rates of autocrats in the countries they run
[01:12]	cybershow	I can't /see/ any of that. I hear it /reported/. By people I would not trust for a moment.
[01:13]	cybershow	When I meet real people and talk to them I find something totally different
[01:13]	MinceR	in the country where i live, it was way too difficult to vote the putinists out of power this year
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[01:13]	cybershow	where do you live MinceR?
[01:13]	MinceR	even after 16 years of them robbing everyone blind and making the country the poorest country in the region
[01:13]	MinceR	hungary
[01:14]	cybershow	Ah I love that place
[01:14]	MinceR	and then we can look around, and what do we see? the nazis will probably win in france next year
[01:14]	cybershow	I went o Budapest in the 1980s
[01:14]	MinceR	and then in germany and austria
[01:14]	cybershow	before Glasnost
[01:14]	MinceR	also, the usa went nazi after seeing what orban did to the country and "thinking" that this sort of failure and poverty is exactly what they want for themselves
[01:14]	cybershow	still last winds of communism
[01:15]	MinceR	well, sadly, not the last winds of communism
[01:15]	MinceR	fidesz wanted to build a campus for fudan university in budapest
[01:15]	cybershow	swings and roundabouts. Authoritarianism is built on hate and insecurity.
[01:15]	MinceR	fudan requires their staff and students to be loyal to the communist party of china
[01:15]	MinceR	fidesz posed as an "anti-communist" party
[01:15]	MinceR	fidesz sold us out to muscovy and communist china
[01:16]	MinceR	there still are about 2 million communists in this country
[01:16]	cybershow	small people with small minds
[01:16]	MinceR	yeah, that's what most humans are like
[01:16]	cybershow	but I'm saying no. _most_ of them are not
[01:16]	MinceR	most of them are, though
[01:17]	cybershow	why do we focus on a few insecure *mostly men)
[01:17]	MinceR	even if only about half support putler and some others are merely communists/fascists
[01:17]	MinceR	i'm not focusing on a few people, i'm focusing about half plus another sizeable chunk
[01:17]	MinceR	i.e. the majority
[01:17]	cybershow	I guess we differ there. I don't want to lay it on you heavy. 
[01:18]	MinceR	and then there are the others who aren't fascists, merely statists
[01:18]	MinceR	and still support a lot of the systematic oppression
[01:18]	cybershow	I mean, mu own experience as a humanist and christian of people as fundamentally good
[01:19]	cybershow	that's what I look for in a movement. in building a movement, hope and mutual belief in each other
[01:19]	cybershow	not in ideals or money
[01:20]	cybershow	things the propagandists use to amplify their message of hoplessness
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[01:20]	cybershow	sapping and discombobulation
[01:20]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Apple says they'll assemble Mac Minis in the US. Tariffs probably. This announcement comes about a month after they raised the US price of a Mac Mini by roughly $200.
[01:20]	cybershow	fuck Apple
[01:22]	MinceR	^
[01:22]	cybershow	:) anyway about the kernel
[01:22]	MinceR	well, i've spent 16 years of my life oppressed by christians, being exposed to their hateful, arrogant propaganda despite my attempts to block it
[01:22]	MinceR	so i hate christians more than ever
[01:23]	MinceR	and that propaganda isn't even over
[01:23]	MinceR	if i could choose to leave earth and humans and live among intelligent and civilized aliens, i'd do so
[01:24]	cybershow	One Finnish dude copied the code outa the back of Tannenbaum (like we all did in operating systems class at uni) 
[01:24]	cybershow	what makes you think there are "civilised aliens" MinceR? 
[01:25]	MinceR	nothing
[01:25]	MinceR	note the "if"
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[01:25]	cybershow	I see
[01:25]	cybershow	but other humans are all we have
[01:25]	cybershow	so we better find a way to love each other no?
[01:26]	MinceR	first i'd need a _reason_ to love the others
[01:26]	MinceR	also, one-sided "love" doesn't really work
[01:26]	cybershow	would you like to be loved?
[01:26]	MinceR	so if the others want to oppress me because i don't believe in their imaginary frenemy, that makes the whole thing futile
[01:27]	MinceR	and i don't see a lot of love going around in human society anyway
[01:27]	cybershow	wheres a good place to look for love? 
[01:27]	MinceR	\_()_/
[01:27]	MinceR	cats, i guess
[01:27]	cybershow	LOL
[01:27]	cybershow	dogs
[01:28]	cybershow	cats have thir own plan
[01:28]	cybershow	but teah
[01:28]	MinceR	plans are orthogonal to love
[01:28]	cybershow	yeah
[01:28]	cybershow	I've been where you are with "others" 
[01:29]	cybershow	quite genocidal in fact
[01:29]	cybershow	it passes
[01:29]	MinceR	yeah, we don't live forever
[01:29]	MinceR	and the way we're doing things, our species isn't going to stick around for long, either
[01:30]	MinceR	this shit is very far from sustainable
[01:30]	cybershow	and with that little time we have, well its a motive to try and do something to help fix it 
[01:30]	MinceR	would be nice
[01:31]	cybershow	yeah
[01:31]	cybershow	I forgot how IRC is a funny old way to talk
[01:31]	MinceR	but one of our self-created existential threats is that we're boiling the planet and ourselves
[01:31]	MinceR	and that about half of humanity i've mentioned early, they don't even believe the problem exists
[01:31]	cybershow	mostly I write alone and after reading books
[01:31]	MinceR	they probably don't even believe it is possible for such a problem to exist
[01:31]	MinceR	so, good luck fixing that one
[01:32]	cybershow	my father in law is a prominent climate scientist
[01:32]	cybershow	he did the numers on pollution for Kyoto 
[01:32]	cybershow	numbers
[01:32]	MinceR	then there are the impulses to wipe out about half of humanity and repeat until the population is no longer sustainable, along lines of skin color, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, various divisions inside religion...
[01:33]	cybershow	fear of others
[01:33]	cybershow	of being overwhelmed
[01:33]	cybershow	Read DeMaus
[01:33]	MinceR	hatred of people who are different in some way
[01:33]	cybershow	and of disease
[01:34]	cybershow	Peterspn had a good accessible take on that - the psycjology of disgust
[01:34]	cybershow	peterson
[01:34]	cybershow	and its relation to racism 
[01:34]	cybershow	quite an easy switch for the propagandists to operate
[01:36]	cybershow	but we all have to live under these marks
[01:36]	MinceR	no, we can also go extinct
[01:36]	cybershow	I would rather we did not
[01:36]	cybershow	of course
[01:36]	MinceR	and once we go beyond all the ways in which we're trying to exterminate ourselves, nature also presents plenty of challenges
[01:37]	MinceR	like our Sun becoming a red giant
[01:37]	MinceR	to protect ourselves, we need science and technology
[01:37]	cybershow	that's something to worry about another day
[01:37]	MinceR	but afaict the majority of humanity has already decided that they don't want either anymore
[01:37]	MinceR	we live in the new dark ages
[01:37]	MinceR	we don't necessarily have another day
[01:38]	cybershow	and yet we are able to talk by the miracle of TCP/IP :_
[01:38]	cybershow	you and me
[01:38]	cybershow	whoever you are
[01:38]	MinceR	we probably need better technology to detect and redirect/eliminate incoming meteoroids
[01:38]	MinceR	and yet we're doing worse than nothing
[01:38]	MinceR	most of us are busy sabotaging our existing technology base
[01:38]	cybershow	you have a guardians mind
[01:39]	cybershow	you say "most of us" a lot
[01:40]	cybershow	guardians are the salt of the earth, because you care
[01:40]	MinceR	it isn't doing me much good
[01:40]	cybershow	I ca tell
[01:40]	cybershow	:)
[01:41]	cybershow	caring too much hurts us
[01:41]	cybershow	but don't let go of the care
[01:42]	cybershow	I have to go in  a mo
[01:42]	cybershow	think about what I asked about the kernel
[01:42]	cybershow	is it a lost cause?
[01:43]	cybershow	Or does Linus just need jis complacent docile ass kicked?
[01:43]	MinceR	it's very difficult to unfuck it now
[01:43]	cybershow	I respect your opinion. Lets talk about it more some time
[01:43]	MinceR	it was always in a difficult position, given that gkh being second-in-command for a long fucking time and his attitude toward the likes of kdbus shows that the entirety of QA for Linux used to be Torvalds
[01:44]	MinceR	and since microslop got Torvalds under control, Linux has no QA at all
[01:44]	cybershow	a cult of one man? hmmm
[01:44]	cybershow	single point of failure bad design
[01:44]	MinceR	according to my notes, this happened on 2018-09-16
[01:44]	MinceR	so if you want a good basis to build a Linux fork on, you might have to go back more than 8 years
[01:45]	cybershow	why that date in particular?
[01:45]	MinceR	cut out all the bloat, and fix all the bugs that are known now
[01:45]	MinceR	that's when torvalds stepped down, iirc
[01:45]	cybershow	I see
[01:45]	MinceR	then on 2018-10-22 they adopted the CoC the suits wanted
[01:46]	cybershow	How did this "Linux FOundation" (suits I presume) take control of Linus?
[01:46]	MinceR	OpenBSD seems like a far better base to build on, and it doesn't even seem fucked yet, to me
[01:46]	MinceR	afaik they offered to pay torvalds and some other devs a salary
[01:46]	cybershow	I agree about BSD
[01:46]	MinceR	and with money came loyalty and corruption
[01:46]	cybershow	they bought Linus
[01:46]	MinceR	and i don't know how they convinced him to step down temporarily and then to accept the CoC
[01:47]	cybershow	and then he resigned from his own project effectively
[01:47]	MinceR	i suspect something like blackmail
[01:47]	MinceR	his behavior changed rather abruptly at the time
[01:47]	cybershow	in theory he could disavow and denounce the foundation and set up alone again
[01:47]	MinceR	it might be impossible to maintain good software for long in a world ruled by microslop
[01:47]	MinceR	he could, but he has stockholm syndrome now
[01:47]	cybershow	he would have the real devs on his side
[01:47]	MinceR	he said increasingly idiotic things since
[01:48]	MinceR	like that windows only crashed a lot because we had shitty RAM
[01:48]	cybershow	irrelevant, we all say increasingly idiotic things
[01:48]	cybershow	:)
[01:48]	MinceR	apparently someone swapped all the RAM in my dual-booted PC every time i rebooted between windows and GNU/Linux
[01:48]	MinceR	imagine that
[01:48]	MinceR	or maybe there was twice the RAM on the mainboard so that it could switch depending on which OS was booted
[01:48]	cybershow	well I can forgive him
[01:49]	MinceR	well, he's not relevant anymore
[01:49]	MinceR	he hasn't had control over Linux for over 8 years
[01:49]	cybershow	who says that?
[01:49]	MinceR	it's microslop linux now
[01:49]	cybershow	that Linus Torvalds is irrelevant?
[01:49]	MinceR	well, consider that he didn't want a CoC, and then they shoved it down his throat anyway
[01:49]	MinceR	i say that
[01:49]	cybershow	okay fair enough
[01:50]	MinceR	they told him he wasn't allowed to chew anyone out for their crap code anymore
[01:50]	cybershow	I' dlike to get him on the show and grill him (in a nice BBQ sauce sort of way)
[01:50]	MinceR	and since then it's very conspicous that microslop drones can push any sort of atrocious shit and no comment from torvalds
[01:50]	MinceR	but if google fucks up, he still chews them out
[01:50]	MinceR	it seems clear who holds his leash
[01:51]	cybershow	I wonder if he undertands his power
[01:51]	MinceR	he has no power
[01:51]	cybershow	probably not
[01:51]	cybershow	he has a lot of power
[01:51]	cybershow	politics is all about image and figureheads
[01:51]	MinceR	well, he's a figurehead
[01:52]	cybershow	but I surmise he is not a political thinker
[01:52]	cybershow	or very self saware
[01:52]	MinceR	and the suits at microslop realized that while they can't hire anyone who can code (or design) his way out of a wet paper bag, they can easily and cheaply fuck up the competitor they're most afraid of
[01:52]	MinceR	and so now we have this bloated, bug-ridden mess
[01:52]	cybershow	sabotage?
[01:52]	MinceR	yeah
[01:53]	cybershow	embrace extend extinguish
[01:53]	MinceR	though i suppose just having microslop's code monkeys "contribute" code to an open source project is sabotage
[01:53]	MinceR	given how shitty everything that comes out of them is, on every level
[01:53]	cybershow	they brought no value though
[01:53]	MinceR	that would have been challenging
[01:53]	MinceR	even for an average developer
[01:54]	MinceR	and for the sort of idiot microslop attract, it's impossible
[01:54]	MinceR	s/ct/cts/
[01:54]	cybershow	name one contribution of Microsoft that obhectively improved the Linux kernel
[01:54]	MinceR	i don't know of any
[01:54]	cybershow	^^^ thats mainly for my own notes MinceR dont answer if you cant think of one
[01:54]	MinceR	:>
[01:54]	cybershow	:)
[01:55]	cybershow	so a poltical takeover to sabotage
[01:55]	cybershow	and Eorvalds was an easy conquest
[01:55]	MinceR	the hype-v patch in staging that wanted to call an rc script to restart networking was hilarious though
[01:55]	MinceR	as it wouldn't even work on their beloved systemd
[01:55]	cybershow	ah yes the whole silly init debacle
[01:56]	cybershow	So MS brought nothing
[01:56]	cybershow	and captured Torvalds
[01:56]	cybershow	and then the kernel went to shit
[01:56]	MinceR	they've put support for their own shit (like hype-V) in there
[01:57]	cybershow	LInux already had at least three virtualisation paths though, am I wrong?
[01:57]	MinceR	they had at least one
[01:57]	cybershow	and user mode linux
[01:57]	MinceR	and afaik they had a rule against multiple implementations of the same thing in the kernel
[01:57]	cybershow	if you want to count that
[01:57]	MinceR	but of course the rules don't apply to microslop
[01:58]	cybershow	His mistake was attacjing his code to his name
[01:58]	cybershow	LInux = Linus
[01:58]	MinceR	i think his mistake was trusting corporations too much
[01:58]	MinceR	the entire community trusted corporations too much, and now it's mostly gone
[01:59]	cybershow	agreed, but....
● Oct 21
[02:00]	cybershow	it's abit difficult for Linus to extricate from the product that bears his name
[02:00]	MinceR	i don't see why
[02:00]	cybershow	optics that's all
[02:00]	MinceR	he could have just announced in 2018 that he's leaving and not coming back
[02:00]	MinceR	and that they should just rename the project to Hartmanux or systemd-kerneld
[02:00]	cybershow	I mean... its LINUX and he is the man... LINUS
[02:01]	cybershow	Hartmanux. LOL that's got a catchy ring to it yeah
[02:01]	cybershow	Slopnix
[02:02]	cybershow	I wonder if he has a credible trademark claim on grounds to do with personal image
[02:03]	MinceR	\_()_/
[02:03]	MinceR	ask a lawyer
[02:03]	cybershow	Like if he could stop the foundation from using it
[02:03]	nobody	cybershow> kernel that has most of the cruft and bloat removed
[02:03]	nobody	MinceR> making it a very costly proposition to fork and maintain
[02:04]	nobody	there's several intersting Linux kernel options
[02:04]	MinceR	well, "interesting" is easy
[02:04]	nobody	the linux-tcc fork of mine, fiwix kernel
[02:04]	nobody	and *bsd weren't too bad either, in comparison
[02:05]	nobody	depends on how much you're willing to suffer
[02:05]	MinceR	i've suffered enough already
[02:05]	nobody	$ uname -a
[02:05]	nobody	Linux node01 2.4.37.11 #1 Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 -00 1970 i586 AMD GX-415GA SOC
[02:06]	nobody	that's my most recent up-to-date development host
[02:06]	cybershow	well we all suffer for our art. Intersting stuff nobody.
[02:06]	nobody	libc, userspace, _everything_ backported
[02:06]	nobody	fully supported with tinycc compiler
[02:06]	cybershow	that sounds lean and clean
[02:07]	nobody	depends, it certainly is much less lines of code in total, much faster compile times
[02:07]	cybershow	what makes these forks impractical or not widely recognised (i am being presumptuous)
[02:07]	nobody	but there is alot of work remaining on TODO
[02:07]	nobody	and i didn't succed with acquisition of sufficient funding nor cooperation with any employer or university
[02:08]	nobody	really depends what the expectations are, i moved back onto linux framebuffer terminal long time ago, with some linux5 kernel already
[02:08]	nobody	because i couldn't stand the whole bloat of kde/qt/gnome/gtk anymore either
[02:09]	cybershow	putting aside funding, what are the challenges to a clean kernel free from unsavour corporate control, blobs and over-complex graphics 
[02:09]	MinceR	i probably couldn't even boot that on most of my hardware
[02:09]	nobody	nonetheless, even ffmpeg/mplayer, libsdl1, fbpdf, etc. it's all backported
[02:09]	nobody	MinceR: you probably could, if the hardware supported uefi/CSM and/or legacy-BIOS
[02:10]	nobody	i've too backported/updated some realtek gigabit driver, some cheapo usb2 ethernet dongle, and a few other things
[02:10]	MinceR	most of these don't even support CSM anymore
[02:10]	MinceR	actually, that's wrong
[02:10]	nobody	none of my problems though
[02:10]	MinceR	there are a couple that don't
[02:11]	cybershow	there is a real cybersecurity cataclysm coming, many people would jump at the chance to massively reduce accack surface and LoC/complexity
[02:11]	nobody	i've too successfully ported/tested coreboot/seabios to yet another AMD FM2 bulldozer board...
[02:11]	MinceR	i remember having to use slackware-current on my then new ThinkPad because the latest release had a kernel that was too old
[02:11]	nobody	cybershow: yes, that's another side effect, for real hacking and server use cases a linux-2.4 still is an option
[02:12]	nobody	for that matter, i've too backported/tested sata/ahci, no NVME
[02:12]	MinceR	the switch to NVMe was pretty long ago
[02:12]	nobody	just as said, there's a few open tasks remaining, and i lack the stamina, time and money
[02:12]	nobody	well, if you wish then implement NVMe for linux2 or fiwix
[02:13]	cybershow	that's a lot of work for a one man show... impressive. Is it just you nobody or can you build a team?
[02:13]	nobody	or, OpenBSD and similar aren't too bad either
[02:13]	cybershow	I just saw openBSD is at 8.0 today
[02:13]	nobody	cybershow: of cause i did rely upon the work of others too
[02:13]	MinceR	afaict 2.4 doesn't even have dm_crypt
[02:14]	nobody	but the tinycc-toolchain support, c-toolchain portability, linux-2.4 backports, that's all been my efforts
[02:14]	cybershow	fascinating. I really want to do an episode on all of this one day soon
[02:14]	nobody	bootstrappable.org did a few important pieces for musl-libc, tinycc-devel helped a little here and there
[02:14]	nobody	MinceR: i've patched some custom high-speed loopdev-scrambler into linux-tcc
[02:15]	nobody	and otherwise md-raid is available too
[02:15]	MinceR	what encryption algorithm?
[02:15]	nobody	MinceR: http://tinyfront.mooo.com/projects.html#scram.md
[02:15]	TR Bot	 projects
[02:15]	nobody	just some fun project
[02:15]	nobody	but it's working, high-speed scrambling for ssh2 and loopdev/block-devices
[02:16]	MinceR	how much scrutiny has this algorithm seen from cryptographers?
[02:17]	nobody	MinceR: known-plaintext key-recovery is IMPOSSIBLE
[02:17]	nobody	even in weakest ECB-mode of operation, that's how I designed for the sake of it
[02:17]	MinceR	that's not the only way it could be attacked, though, is it?
[02:18]	nobody	sure
[02:18]	cybershow	was this your diploma thesis (aggi?)
[02:18]	nobody	cybershow: yes, one among many others which were't "approved" by corrupt german bureaucracy
[02:18]	cybershow	wonderful
[02:18]	MinceR	it's not a question of approval by bureaucracy, it's a question of peer review
[02:18]	cybershow	I'm still refreshing myself on the lay of the land in this area
[02:19]	nobody	it is published for 6 years already and was announced on old freenode
[02:19]	cybershow	I was asking MinceR about why the kernel became so bloated and out of control and what changes could create a "new linux"?
[02:19]	nobody	so far i didn't here any expert claiming a known-plaintext key-recover was feasible even when encrypting a terrabyte of zeros with it
[02:20]	MinceR	my notes on the timeline of GNU/Linux being fucked up >> https://pastebin.oetec.com/92818ed0/lined
[02:20]	TR Bot	 AI Pastebin
[02:20]	cybershow	also this crypto work is impressive
[02:20]	nobody	ups, ok. apropos bloat, here's a little summary of mine besides: http://tinyfront.mooo.com/docs.html#Kernel
[02:20]	TR Bot	 docs
[02:21]	nobody	cybershow: not really, i just needed something to practice a little C and kernel hacking
[02:21]	cybershow	thanks
[02:21]	cybershow	but you chose Ackermann-Function, why may I ask?
[02:21]	cybershow	what are its novel or useful properties 
[02:22]	cybershow	its lite and works on any CPU 
[02:23]	nobody	i'm only referencing the Ackermann-Functions because it showcases the properaties of non-primitive recursion really nice
[02:23]	cybershow	ok I see
[02:23]	nobody	in case any cryptographer intended to construct a known-plaintext key-recovery attack against SCRAM, this will yield a non-primitive recursion
[02:24]	cybershow	do you intend to keep working on a minimalised kernel as a hobby project?
[02:24]	nobody	which means for any such attempt, the runtime and complexity couldn't at least be estimated, to break the cipher with a KPA
[02:24]	nobody	cybershow: yes, i want to continue maintenance of linux-tccm
[02:24]	cybershow	crypto project sounds practical and lightweight 
[02:25]	cybershow	okay
[02:25]	nobody	i've too got a complete userspace backported already, of mostly up-to-date versions
[02:25]	nobody	but currently that's a total mess of hundreds of patches and hacks
[02:25]	cybershow	would you lke to talk about it some time?
[02:25]	cybershow	maybe after xams
[02:25]	nobody	hence i want to re-integrate this into a fully "bootstrappable" packaging/system-bootstrap
[02:25]	cybershow	christmas 2026
[02:25]	nobody	that's the https://codeberg.org/aggi/tiny-bootstrap fork from live-bootstrap
[02:25]	TR Bot	- Codeberg.org
[02:26]	cybershow	found it, great!
[02:26]	nobody	not much more to tell, because i lack funding completely
[02:26]	cybershow	nothing about funding is important to the concersation
[02:26]	nobody	at best i could barely pay appartment rent and the energy bills
[02:26]	nobody	well, ok, Linux did receive notable amounts of funding, didn't it?
[02:26]	cybershow	but someone might hear the show and take interest
[02:27]	nobody	gonna read MinceR's pastebin noe
[02:27]	nobody	now
[02:27]	cybershow	I want to ask hard questions about why these is only one Linux, when FOSS ois supposed to be about plaurality
[02:27]	cybershow	I expect there are others like you out there
[02:28]	cybershow	all working in little silos
[02:28]	nobody	well, there isn't only one, now we've too got linux-tcc and fiwix
[02:28]	cybershow	nice, I really need to crash
[02:28]	cybershow	tired
[02:28]	MinceR	well, the cult of redhat/International Bullshit Machine/microslop/proprietarydesktop.org has a simple answer to that >> http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Is Linux About Choice?
[02:28]	MinceR	though it does make me wonder why Indian Bowel Movement has rHELL, fedora and who knows what else, then
[02:29]	cybershow	great seeds for me to folloe wit this idea thankyou gentlemen
[02:29]	nobody	cybershow: thanks for noticing, sleep well
[02:29]	cybershow	gnight both
[02:29]	MinceR	o/
[02:32]	nobody	linux isn't about choice beginning with the toolchains supported
[02:32]	nobody	it's always been entangled into GNU/gcc/binutils
[02:33]	nobody	overall, when talking about "linux", a discussion of available "free software" development toolchains is at least as relevant
[02:33]	nobody	i did succeed, to fully detangle at least one *nix type system from either GNU or llvm/clang
[02:34]	nobody	that's probably the most relevant aspect, you would NOT be forced to pull into a hundred million lines of c++/rust to compile a kernel
[02:34]	nobody	i could fully avoid binutils too, finally yasm tested OK
[02:35]	nobody	and if need be as86/bin86 could do some real-mode BIOS related asm pieces too
[02:35]	nobody	yasm seems neat, because it supports both GAS syntax and nasm syntax, the latter required for syslinux/isolinux.asm
[02:36]	nobody	if you wish, you might too add GRUB to the list of what got f*** up, without going into details why that is
[02:37]	MinceR	i'd rather know what's fucked up about grub
[02:37]	nobody	ok, but one other note before
[02:38]	nobody	with linux-tcc i am NOT planning for the "future", i merely seek to salvage a trustworthy FALLBACK development host with sufficient hardware support
[02:38]	MinceR	given that it's the only bootloader i know that can read LUKS and the only boot menu that my UEFI-only laptops are willing to boot (rEFInd won't even start, something else (clover?) also won't even start)
[02:38]	MinceR	of course, UEFI itself is fucked
[02:38]	nobody	no doubt, GRUB is capable and if anyone wishes to use it thats the freedom of choice
[02:39]	MinceR	it's painfully obvious that UEFI was not designed to solve any of the problems its proponents claim it solves
[02:39]	nobody	i object to some engineering issues of GRUB nonetheless, and to understand those you might have a look at live-bootstrap project
[02:39]	MinceR	if it was, we wouldn't even _need_ a boot menu, this gigantic operating system could easily ask the user on its own
[02:39]	nobody	to keep it brief, to compile/assemble/deploy a "simple" bootloader which is software that's needed FIRST during boot
[02:39]	MinceR	but no, i have to install extra software on top of it to do such trivial tasks
[02:40]	nobody	nowadays you MUST compile hundreds of millions of lines of code before, otherwise you can't compile GRUB
[02:40]	MinceR	i don't think anyone accused GRUB of being simple
[02:40]	nobody	GRUB builds up a gigantic dependency graph, and although it's among the first pieces required for booting a system, it's compiled last in live-bootstrap (that's where the whole dependency hell is documented explicitely with a complete! system-bootstrap)
[02:42]	nobody	grub isn't the only trouble source
[02:43]	nobody	bootcode.S pieces inside linux kernel are problematic alike (in particular when having a look at it from bootstrapping perspective)
[02:43]	nobody	you must bootstrap gigantic binutils dependency graph for those, which too makes linux kernel NON-bootstrappable effectively
[02:44]	MinceR	how should it be done instead?
[02:44]	nobody	that's why live-bootstrap does a kexec to fiwix kernel first, without fiwix linux could not be bootstrapped
[02:44]	nobody	MinceR: for bootcode.S i hacked yasm support for linux-tcc kernel
[02:45]	nobody	live-bootstrap and tiny-bootstrap are different though, the former is mission accomplished already, while my fork of it is not
[02:45]	MinceR	what sort of stuff does GRUB depend on?
[02:45]	nobody	MinceR: effectively, to keep it brief, it depends on almost _everything_ and far too much
[02:45]	nobody	it's too big of a beast for a bootloader
[02:46]	MinceR	well, it could be modularized
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[02:46]	nobody	yes, but modularization would NOT shrink the dependency graph of binutils/gcc/autotools/perl and a thousand other things involved
[02:46]	MinceR	recently i've played with the idea of putting together a system that can store kernels, initramfs-es, whatever, offer complex menus and boot whatever, and have the ability to do some troubleshooting from a shell
[02:47]	MinceR	and would work without UEFI
[02:47]	nobody	other bootloaders got a MUCH smaller dependency graph
[02:47]	MinceR	it would take FreeDOS and GRUB4DOS and some minor tools
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[02:47]	MinceR	GRUB4DOS is probably still complex, but for what it seems to be doing, it doesn't have to be
[02:47]	nobody	well, i've been thinking about FreeDOS myself before
[02:47]	nobody	but FreeDOS is NOT "bootstrappable", which i consider a most important criterion
[02:48]	MinceR	is there another free DOS that is?
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[02:48]	nobody	not really, live-bootstrap (rickmasters) hacked some nano-kernel for the early bootstrapping stages
[02:48]	nobody	that's the posix-stage0 kernel
[02:49]	nobody	which is, a challenge to say the least
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[02:50]	nobody	and this stage0-posix kernel is written in "hex0" code, which is commented opcodes/machine-code
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[02:51]	nobody	well yes, what got bootstrapping to do with GNU/linux anyway
[02:52]	nobody	and if you wished to track the complete dependency graph for a complete system-bootstrap of it to arrive at some most recent gcc/linux5, hell breaks loose nowadays
[02:53]	nobody	i'm glad nonetheless, bootstrappable.org did succeed with it, and documented related problems explicitely
[02:55]	MinceR	in any case, if you can bootstrap one OS on a system, that can help you a lot in bootstrapping others, can't it?
● Oct 21
[03:08]	nobody	depends, how complicated the system-bootstrap itself is, and what's bootstrapped finally
[03:08]	nobody	good thing about current live-bootstrap, it's done and known working to arrive at some recent linux5/gcc
[03:08]	nobody	but it is very complicated etc.
[03:09]	nobody	that's why i want to bootstrap the linux-tcc/2.4/tinycc/busybox system instead, as a fallback development host
[03:09]	MinceR	what's the practical significance of bootstrappability if it's tied to x86 due to the machine code anyway?
[03:09]	nobody	i already got mentioned fallback development host here, but it's not yet fully bootstrapped
[03:10]	nobody	MinceR: the practical signifcance is to have at least one such bootstrap to begin with, for at least one ARCH
[03:10]	nobody	and all other OS/ARCH can be cross-compiled from there later
[03:10]	nobody	which is the historical fact anyway
[03:11]	nobody	and one explanation why x86_32 with real-mode BIOS rather not be phased out and retained as fallback development host
[03:11]	nobody	with a linux-tcc kernel such as i propose
[03:12]	MinceR	you can't really cross-compile x86 hex0 to another ISA though, can you?
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[03:17]	nobody	MinceR: ??????????????????????????
[03:17]	MinceR	though i suppose it can still significantly cut down on the amount of machine code you have to write in order to get something useful running on an ISA you can't run anything on yet
[03:18]	nobody	x86 hex0 is the needed for early bootloader/nano-kernel during bootstrapping, to arrive at some gcc/binutils far later
[03:18]	nobody	so what is it you're asking, of cause you need gcc/binutils to cross/compile for any other foreign ISA
[03:19]	nobody	although live-bootstrap began hacking other ARCH, current one supported remains is x86_32
[03:19]	MinceR	never mind, i've found an answer
[03:20]	nobody	if you want any other bootstrapped from scratch, you either can cross-compiler from there, or implement the early bootstrapping pieces for RISC-V
[03:20]	nobody	etc.
[03:21]	nobody	i'm merely thinking linux-tcc/2.4 is a better choice as a fallback development host for this
[03:42]	Sompi	https://www.ymparisto.fi/fi/osallistu-ja-vaikuta/ymparistovaikutusten-arviointi/tervamaen-datakeskus-iisalmi <- again a new data center, this time 1,2 gigawatts. Only 20 km from my place
[03:42]	TR Bot	 Tervamen datakeskus, Iisalmi
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● Oct 21
[04:09]	admfubar	https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/oct/20/smart-tv-television-dumb-wifi-techies-privacy
[04:09]	TR Bot	 It was so satisfying when I threw a rock through the screen: the people sick of being spied on by their smart TV | Television | The Guardian
[04:11]	MinceR	and yet that doesn't even necessarily stop the spying
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[04:25]	nobody	1,2 gigawatts, that's the output of a whole nuclear reactor core
[04:25]	Sompi	It is more than 1/10 of the whole Finland's electricity consumption
[04:25]	admfubar	https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-rtx-5090-shipment-worth-usd470-000-goes-missing-in-brazilian-airport-two-pallets-disappear-distributor-seeks-explanations-but-met-with-zero-answers
[04:25]	TR Bot	 Nvidia RTX 5090 shipment worth $470,000 goes missing in Brazilian airport two pallets disappear, distributor seeks explanations but met with zero answers | Tom's Hardware
[04:25]	nobody	at least the heat emissions could be used for remote-heating, during winter
[04:26]	nobody	would be curious if this data center does couple to remote-heating
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[04:27]	Sompi	Who needs that much heat
[04:27]	Sompi	And the losses are ridiculously high
[04:28]	Sompi	Moving that much heat more than 10 km away using underground pipes
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[04:31]	nobody	good point Sompi, because Nvdia and friends are advertizing heat-coupling of data centers, here in germany (which isn't as cold as Finland)
[04:32]	MinceR	well, here people were talking about using waste heat produced in Paks to heat houses in Budapest
[04:32]	MinceR	~125 km
[04:33]	nobody	close nearby urban regions it is feasible, during winter
[04:33]	nobody	we've hit another record heat wave this summer
[04:34]	nobody	Finland hasn't got many urban regions
[04:34]	nobody	who knows
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> schestowitz[TR2], Apparently they've hallucinated more YSERVER code.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> Now they're bragging that it only uses 25% more vram than X11, instead of 400%
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	that it merely their own claim
[04:39]	Sompi	And the heating season is only 4 months per year anyway
[04:40]	Sompi	In reality it is easily less - later in the winter the sun already climbs so high in the sky that it gives a lot of heat by just keeping curtains open during the day
[04:40]	Sompi	Everyone who has to pay their heating themselves knows this
[04:41]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D1775.jpg
[04:41]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D2132.jpg
[04:41]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/a/5304312
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Indian certification authority eMudhras private keys compromised one of them was the number 4
[04:41]	Sompi	Heating becomes necessary in October and ends being absolutely necessary in March
[04:42]	TR News	A walk through Amsterdam gemini://hans.gerwitz.com/gemlog/2026-10-20-a-walk-through-amsterdam.gmi
[04:42]	TR News	"I recent checked out a university copy of "a course in the slide rule and logarithms" by E. Justin Hills (Ginn & Company, Revised Ed, 1950) through our library system." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20261020-0.gmi
[04:44]	TR News	the archer gemini://coldscars.smol.pub/the_archer
[04:49]	admfubar	or so says the latest update to the RFK ai... https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=26/10/19/0511219
[04:49]	TR Bot	 AI Researchers Are Smoking Cigarettes to Prove AI Will Cure Cancer, Says Palantir Exec - SoylentNews
[04:51]	MinceR	> one of them was the number 4
[04:51]	MinceR	hilarious xkcd reference
[04:52]	admfubar	oh?
[04:52]	MinceR	(said with an absolutely straight face)
[04:52]	admfubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/20/accident-or-not-the-no-kings-takedown-is-why-you-shouldnt-rent-your-megaphone-from-zuck/
[04:52]	TR Bot	Or Not, The No Kings Takedown Is Why You Shouldnt Rent Your Megaphone From Zuck | Techdirt
[04:54]	MinceR	admfubar: https://web.archive.org/web/20120605121354/http://xkcd.com/221
[04:54]	TR Bot	 xkcd: Random Number
[04:55]	admfubar	:)) https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/20/new-skydance-already-worth-less-than-half-of-warner-brothers-paramount-were-combined/
[04:55]	TR Bot	Skydance Already Worth Less Than Half Of Warner Brothers, Paramount Were Combined | Techdirt
[04:56]	admfubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/19/sling-tv-drops-innovative-streaming-day-passes-after-disney-warner-bros-sued/
[04:56]	TR Bot	TV Drops Innovative Streaming Day Passes After Disney, Warner Bros Sued | Techdirt
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[05:00]	admfubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-digital-natives-buying-electric-cars.html
[05:00]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-digital-natives-buying-electric-cars.html )
[05:01]	admfubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-driveway-electric-vehicles-big-barrier.html
[05:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-driveway-electric-vehicles-big-barrier.html )
[05:01]	admfubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-transistor-combines-memory-brain.html
[05:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-transistor-combines-memory-brain.html )
[05:03]	admfubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-ultrasound-tube-air.html
[05:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-ultrasound-tube-air.html )
[05:04]	TR News	Three Goals, Three Days https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/21/three-goals-three-days/
[05:04]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Three Goals, Three Days
[05:05]	TR News	"Cybershow has been running for several years now and we've accumulated a fair bit of artwork. Some of that might go well on T-shirts and coffee mugs as a way to help pay for our project, so Helen is on a mission to make some cyber-merch!! We may even get some real artists to make us fresh, original art." https://cybershow.uk/content/home/home.html
[05:05]	admfubar	if they train them on elon's ramblings it will turn out batsh!t crazy... https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-llms-frivolous-online-content-brain.html
[05:05]	TR Bot	 Home
[05:05]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-llms-frivolous-online-content-brain.html )
[05:05]	TR News	"Though his language is mild, it is encouraging to see Prof. Christopher Marquis aggree with the thoughts discussed in our recent episode Colonised By Wankers. He echoes many points on the toxicity of the MBA, the damage done by that ideology and what the conceit of "professional management" has done to our economy, institutions, culture and humanity." https://cybershow.uk/content/home/home.html
[05:06]	TR News	"Top NYC business school professor agrees with us [...] Yes, "business schools" are last-century products of the Thatcher-Reagan era, and we absolutely should abolish them for failing society. The question now is, how shall we restructure industry and education for human survival?"
[05:06]	admfubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-microsoft-exits-center-uk-ai.html
[05:06]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://techxplore.com/news/2026-10-microsoft-exits-center-uk-ai.html )
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	admfubar: https://thenextweb.com/news/tech-giants-hidden-off-balance-sheet-debt-ai
[05:06]	TR Bot	 Five tech giants are hiding $1.65tn in AI debt, using the trick that toppled Enron
[05:06]	MinceR	microslop should hurry up and exit existence already
[05:06]	TR News	Techrights https://techrights.org/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ 
[05:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights
[05:07]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: The Brothers Who Fought Mussolini and a Dying Main Laptop https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_The_Brothers_Who_Fought_Mussolini_and_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_The_Brothers_Who_Fought_Mussolini_and_a.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: The Brothers Who Fought Mussolini and a Dying Main Laptop
[05:07]	TR News	Techrights IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 20, 2026 https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_October_20_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_October_20_2026.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 20, 2026
[05:07]	TR News	Techrights More Mass Layoffs at Microsoft Weeks From Now, Then Again Months From Now https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/More_Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Weeks_From_Now_Then_Again_Months.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/More_Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Weeks_From_Now_Then_Again_Months.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Techrights More Mass Layoffs at Microsoft Weeks From Now, Then Again Months From Now
[05:07]	TR News	Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[05:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  COSMIC 1.11 Desktop Environment Released with New Touchpad Settings https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/20/COSMIC_1_11_Desktop_Environment_Released_with_New_Touchpad_Sett.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/20/COSMIC_1_11_Desktop_Environment_Released_with_New_Touchpad_Sett.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines COSMIC 1.11 Desktop Environment Released with New Touchpad Settings
[05:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[05:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[05:07]	admfubar	mincer, they are going as fast as they can... but they keep laying off staff and that slows them down..
[05:07]	MinceR	:>
[05:11]	admfubar	Dr Doolittle, vegan edition...  https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/20/plants-can-speak-using-electricity-so-this-startup-built-an-ai-model-to-decipher-their-language/
[05:11]	TR Bot	can speak using electricity, so this startup built an AI model to decipher their language | TechCrunch
[05:12]	admfubar	https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/19/people-are-using-ai-to-make-their-smart-tvs-dumb-again/
[05:12]	TR Bot	are using AI to make their smart TVs dumb again | TechCrunch
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[05:16]	admfubar	it's really bad when these companies want to dump their worthless stock for free... https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/19/musk-pledges-to-give-every-kid-in-america-one-of-his-spacex-shares/
[05:16]	TR Bot	pledges to give 'every kid in America' one of his SpaceX shares | TechCrunch
[05:16]	admfubar	https://techcrunch.com/2026/10/18/anthropic-says-its-committing-5-of-its-shares-to-a-public-benefit-fund/
[05:16]	TR Bot	says its committing 5% of its shares to a public benefit fund | TechCrunch
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Shares"
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	not money\
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	"shartes"
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	they have no money
[05:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	they have MASSIVE debt
[05:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://futurism.com/future-society/imf-ai-bubble-world-economy
[05:23]	TR Bot	 IMF Warns That AI Bubble Could Take Down the Entire World Economy
[05:23]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: A Walk Through Amsterdam and Pythagorean Theorem https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_A_Walk_Through_Amsterdam_and_Pythagorea.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_A_Walk_Through_Amsterdam_and_Pythagorea.gmi 
[05:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: A Walk Through Amsterdam and Pythagorean Theorem
[05:31]	admfubar	https://slashdot.org/story/26/10/18/1715218/websites-are-closing-their-doors-to-ai-agents
[05:31]	TR Bot	 Websites Are Closing Their Doors to AI Agents - Slashdot
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	IF they can idnetify them
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not easy
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	and some justb buy data in bulk
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	without crawlingf
[05:33]	admfubar	https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/10/20/2055251/judge-orders-meta-to-name-employees-who-approved-torrenting-annas-archive-libgen
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Judge Orders Meta To Name Employees Who Approved Torrenting Anna's Archive, Libgen - Slashdot
● Oct 21
[06:06]	TR News	"If your Windows PC's Secure Boot certificates are out of date, your system is vulnerable to malware like rootkits." https://www.pcworld.com/article/3256049/check-your-windows-secure-boot-status-now-later-could-be-too-late.html
[06:06]	TR Bot	your Windows Secure Boot status now. Later could be too late | PCWorld
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	> Good morning Roy,
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	> Ive had a look at this which seems to be discussions over data. I think you are missing the point here. This is a discussion over data analysis however what you are doing is republishing someone's personal data in order to upset them."
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is so funny
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	they say things like
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	showing a public page
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	is "republishing someone's personal data"
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's like saying
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	quoting something from a Trump annoucement
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	is done "in order to upset them."
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	complete BS
[06:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	they made up new naratices
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[06:47]	IsambardPrince	<schestowitz[TR2]> <IsambardPrince> schestowitz[TR2], Apparently they've hallucinated more YSERVER code.
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	<schestowitz[TR2]> <IsambardPrince> Now they're bragging that it only uses 25% more vram than X11, instead of 400%
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	<schestowitz[TR2]> that it merely their own claim
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	I'm not sure why you even would do something like this.
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	To prove that it's possible?
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	Who will put this into production?
[06:47]	IsambardPrince	Trust that it won't lose their data?
[06:48]	IsambardPrince	X.org and X Libre code has a very long tail. So like, none of this YSERVER code has been shaken down.
[06:48]	IsambardPrince	Nobody using it means nobody will find bugs.
[06:50]	IsambardPrince	X.org is a known factor.
[06:50]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part X - American Back Doors Inside Our Computers, With Transatlantic Swatting Against Critics Thrown 'Into the Mix' https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_X_American_Back_Doors_Inside_Ou.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_X_American_Back_Doors_Inside_Ou.gmi 
[06:50]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part X - American Back Doors Inside Our Computers, With Transatlantic Swatting Against Critics Thrown 'Into the Mix'
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's pointless
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	many bored programmers
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	they lost their gafam jobsd
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they want to practice
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	but more code is not always more useful
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's just more coded
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	*code
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[06:52]	IsambardPrince	I greatly despise Wayland and systemd and UEFI. ChromeOS doesn't use any of those.
[06:52]	IsambardPrince	I haven't had any serious issues with it.
[06:52]	IsambardPrince	With what "Linux" has turned into, there's not much to be had by using it.
[06:53]	IsambardPrince	It's interesting as a way to run programs, but you can do that with an integrated virtual machine.
[06:55]	IsambardPrince	The PC platform is not what it once was.
[06:55]	IsambardPrince	It's much less reliable.
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	right.
[06:56]	IsambardPrince	I was generally happier with my customized version of Windows 98 than I am with modern operating systems.
[06:56]	IsambardPrince	They just do too much and not well.
[06:57]	IsambardPrince	Windows Explorer from Windows 95 was peak Microsoft. Steve Jobs saw it and said they have no appreciation for originality or beautiful things. You don't have to. It needs to work and not get in the way of the user.
[06:57]	IsambardPrince	The GUI had nothing that got in the user's way.
[06:58]	IsambardPrince	And GNOME had that phase too.
[06:59]	IsambardPrince	GNOME 2 sort of reminded me of this.
● Oct 21
[07:00]	IsambardPrince	I tried an early version of the GNOME 3 Shell, and it was just totally blank pretty much except "Activities", which annoyingly didn't bring up any menus.
[07:00]	IsambardPrince	I was like "God... Please tell me that this is a placeholder while they try to get it working." Nope, it wasn't.
[07:01]	IsambardPrince	Some GUIs are just bad in that they try to be as bad as possible and make the user go out of their way to do gymnastics in order to use it.
[07:01]	IsambardPrince	And GNOME 3/4x and the Mac are like this.
[07:03]	IsambardPrince	Like, why the fuck would I want my window control buttons on the wrong side and to do the exact opposite of what I expected, a one button mouse, hidden scrollbars.....
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[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	gnome is ok for some people
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	remember not all users use a computer like you
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	the use cases can be:
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	check gmailk
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	check facebook
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	and maybe type a simply letter
[07:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	gnome can do that with a browser
[07:21]	IsambardPrince	If your only use case is running a web browser, there's no need to bring in a hideously bloated desktop environment for this.
[07:22]	IsambardPrince	You might as well use lxqt or something.
[07:22]	TR News	UEFI and Restricted Boot Are Promoted by Bad Actors and Microsoft Staff Who Dont Know Security, But Courts Look for Other Arguments (Pertaining to Law) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/21/uefi-and-restricted-boot-are-promoted-by-bad-actors-and-microsoft-staff-who-dont-know-security-but-courts-look-for-other-arguments-pertaining-to-law/
[07:22]	TR Bot	Blog Archive UEFI and Restricted Boot Are Promoted by Bad Actors and Microsoft Staff Who Dont Know Security, But Courts Look for Other Arguments (Pertaining to Law)
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	i have not heard of lxqt in years
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	i used it about a decade ago
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	a laptop with just 2 gb of ram
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[07:39]	TR News	IRC Instead of E-mail https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/21/irc-instead-of-e-mail/
[07:39]	TR Bot	Blog Archive IRC Instead of E-mail
[07:45]	TR News	Techrights Internet Relay Chat Still Growing https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Internet_Relay_Chat_Still_Growing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Internet_Relay_Chat_Still_Growing.gmi 
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Techrights Internet Relay Chat Still Growing
[07:54]	TR News	Courtroom
[07:54]	TR News	Challenging Racism in the Courtroom https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/21/challenging-racism-in-the-courtroom/
[07:54]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Challenging Racism in the Courtroom
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5b291zw
[07:57]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5b291zw )
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	" Op you must understand they're PIPing you to avoid having to RA you. They're going to claim to fire you for cause.
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	India found a cheat code to fire Americans, it's the PIP. Unless you can document that the PIP was impossible, applied unfairly or not universally, et cetera, they're firing you. Even if you can prove all of that, you're still going to be fired, and it would take months if not years of lawsuits to get any recovery.
[07:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	Hope for the best, but assume the worst. Get your resume in order and find someplace better than IBM. Literally any other big tech company is.
● Oct 21
[08:03]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I was at a dinner party the other night.
[08:04]	IsambardPrince	The subject of owning a car came up.
[08:04]	IsambardPrince	I told them I know the numbers of this well, and they'd be better off getting a job that's closer than taking on car payments.
[08:04]	IsambardPrince	They will never earn enough money with the car to be worth owning a car.
[08:05]	IsambardPrince	The average new car costs $47,000 and that's before you factor in interest to the bank, full car insurance with low deductibles to satisfy the lender, who can repossess it if you raise your deductibles after the loan goes through, regular upkeep like tires, brake jobs, and oil changes, and eventually repairs.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	And that's why these loans go on forever now.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	Because the only way to make the math work at this point is stretch the loan out for 7-8 years.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	When I was a child my parents were squeamish about taking on a 4 year loan for a car.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	Like, they realized that a lot could happen in 4 years.
[08:06]	IsambardPrince	Now people are signing on an 8 year loan for a less reliable car.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	That guarantees you'll be about 4-5 years into the loan and repairs will start becoming common while you are paying the loan.
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	So then they say hey don't worry, you can get an extended warranty, for another $5,000.
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	Then there's a claims adjustment process where as soon as you make claims they figure out ways to not pay. They're good at this. They have lawyers.
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	And even if they should pay, they'll find an oil change you were a month late on at some point.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Then there's gas, which is about $5 a gallon right now in Cook County.
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	The guy wanted a car because he doesn't like arriving to work 40 minutes early on the Metra. I told him "Well, you know, you buy a car and you're fighting traffic instead, and risking a very expensive car accident because Chicago is crowded and there's a lot of very bad drivers.
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	There's no solution that makes every commuting aggravation go away if you physically have to be somewhere.
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	The car is potentially trading thousands of dollars a year in lost money to gain back, potentially 10-20 minutes per day.
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[08:13]	IsambardPrince	That's bad.
[08:14]	TR News	 (NEW):  New Pair of Routers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/New_Pair_of_Routers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/New_Pair_of_Routers.gmi 
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Pair of Routers
[08:19]	TR News	"Copyright takedown requests tied to OnlyFans and other adult content creators are revealing how attackers exploit vulnerable university and government websites" https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/onlyfans-copyright-takedowns-expose-compromised-websites | Source: Dark Reading
[08:19]	TR Bot	 OnlyFans Copyright Takedowns Expose Compromised Websites
[08:19]	TR News	"Meta will have to name the people who greenlit its torrenting of pirated books." https://torrentfreak.com/judge-orders-meta-to-name-employees-who-approved-torrenting-annas-archive-and-libgen/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[08:19]	TR Bot	Orders Meta to Name Employees Who Approved Torrenting Annas Archive and LibGen * TorrentFreak
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> The subject of owning a car came up.
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	oh, here they go..
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> The guy wanted a car because he doesn't like arriving to work 40 minutes early on the Metra. I told him "Well, you know, you buy a car and you're fighting traffic instead, and risking a very expensive car accident because Chicago is crowded and there's a lot of very bad drivers.
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	we spoke of this last night
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	i said,
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	if I had a car to get to the market
[08:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	it would take me longer than to cycle
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	because of all the parking logistics
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	same with planes and helicopters
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	got o airport
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	wait there
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	security check
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	board
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	delays
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	luggage
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's faster to take the train for most places in the UK
[08:21]	schestowitz[TR2]	sometimes even the coach is faster than a plane
[08:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	so no money saved, no time saved
[08:27]	TR News	Right of Publicity https://geshan.com.np/blog/2026/10/gemini-text-to-speech/ | Source: Geshan
[08:27]	TR Bot	 How to clone your own voice to use for text to speech with Gemini on Google AI Studio
[08:28]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.pcworld.com/article/3256049/check-your-windows-secure-boot-status-now-later-could-be-too-late.html | Source: PC World
[08:28]	TR Bot	your Windows Secure Boot status now. Later could be too late | PCWorld
[08:29]	TR News	"The results show a mixed picture. Fixed-Internet penetration has increased, and territorial inequality has declined, yet substantial differences remain." https://blog.apnic.net/2026/10/20/being-connected-is-not-enough-territorial-inequalities-in-fixed-internet-access-and-performance/ | Source: APNIC
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Being connected is not enough: Territorial inequalities in fixed-Internet access and performance | APNIC Blog
[08:29]	TR News	"On August 31, the Trump administration sent formal notice of a $1.42 billion grant to California to supply broadband access to 270,000 households and businesses, as authorized in the 2021 infrastructure law signed by President Biden." https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/press/trump-administration-could-nullify-california-internet-protections/ | Source: Stanford University
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Trump Administration Could Nullify California Internet Protections
[08:30]		*agentcas2y (~dracos@8pzu2fcsusfzc.irc) has joined #techrights
[08:30]	TR News	"underground over Canadian territory, passing through Quebec before reaching Montreal." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers/norwegian-undersea-cable-builder-pitches-2-800-mile-transatlantic-data-link-between-canada-and-europe-to-bypass-the-us-canadian-majority-partner-sought-to-help-fund-and-build-new-usd620-million-fiber-connection-to-reduce-reliance-on-american-routes | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Norwegian undersea cable builder pitches 2,800-mile transatlantic data link between Canada and Europe to bypass the US Canadian majority partner sought to help fund and build new $620 million fiber connection to reduce reliance on American routes | Tom's Hardware
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[08:30]	TR News	Yesterday I was able to vote early at my local town hall. I had to go there to pay my property tax. The process could not have been easier or smoother." https://austinwhite.org/posts/voting-is-the-way | Source: Austin White
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Voting is the Way - White Noise
[08:31]	TR News	"Our trip up to this point had shed light on the beauty of our country. This stop was a reminder that beauty is fraught, and we need to preserve our past while reforming the future." https://chrisglass.com/2026/10/20/montana-heritage-center/ | Source: Chris Glass
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Montana Heritage Center Chris Glass
[08:31]	TR News	"They have reasons to be mad. The school conditions in many parts of France are atrocious." https://emptywheel.net/2026/10/20/la-france-beats-her-children/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
[08:31]	TR Bot	 La France Beats Her Children - emptywheel
[08:31]	TR News	"terrorist activities" https://www.404media.co/dhs-said-they-searched-man-who-wiped-grapheneos-phone-for-child-abuse-material-they-lied/ | Source: 404 Media
[08:31]	TR Bot	 DHS Said They Searched Man Who Wiped GrapheneOS Phone for Child Abuse Material. They Lied
[08:31]	TR News	"The lumbering corporate retail giant that has for so long set the industry standard for working conditions has finally conceded to the union. Why now?" https://jacobin.com/2026/10/canada-logistics-walmart-union-contract | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[08:31]	TR Bot	 How a Canadian Union Finally Bested Walmart
[08:36]	TR News	"Labor conditions are especially brutal, with workers complaining to the publication about working extremely long shifts without proper training or health and safety protocols in place." https://futurism.com/future-society/data-center-nscale-norway-prison-barge-workers | Source: Futurism
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Major Data Center Developer Rents Floating Prison Barge to House Contract Construction Workers
[08:37]	TR News	"No, I have to stop this." https://6abc.com/post/woman-arrested-blocking-delivery-robot-center-city-philadelphia-confrontation/19941323/ | Source: ABC
[08:37]	TR Bot	arrested after blocking delivery robot in Center City Philadelphia confrontation - 6abc Philadelphia
[08:37]	TR News	"I know theyre taking the jobs of human delivery workers" https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/78-year-old-arrested-protesting-delivery-robot | Source: Futurism
[08:37]	TR Bot	 78-Year-Old Woman Hauled Off In Handcuffs After Blocking Delivery Robot
[08:40]	TR News	"It is hard to see any justification for Vladimir Driagins prolonged detention" https://cpj.org/2026/10/cpj-calls-for-release-of-dissident-russian-journalist-vladimir-driagin/ | Source: CPJ
[08:40]	TR Bot	 CPJ calls for release of dissident Russian journalist Vladimir Driagin - Committee to Protect Journalists
[08:40]	TR News	"Robinson, 43, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon" https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/tommy-robinson-used-bully-boy-intimidatory-tactics-against-mail-journalists/ | Source: Press Gazette
[08:40]	TR Bot	 Tommy Robinson used 'bully-boy, intimidatory tactics' against Mail journalists - Press Gazette
[08:41]	TR News	"when Feinberg asked Trump another question five minutes later, Trump appeared not to recognize him, and even threatened him." https://newrepublic.com/post/216863/you-better-be-careful-trump-lashes-white-house-reporters | Source: New Republic
[08:41]	TR Bot	 You Better Be Careful: Trump Lashes Out at White House Reporters | The New Republic
[08:41]	TR News	"ludicrous, twisted narrative" https://www.salon.com/2026/10/20/bari-weiss-pro-maga-cbs-news-pivot-is-falling-flat/ | Source: Salon
[08:41]	TR Bot	Weiss' pro-MAGA CBS News pivot is falling flat - Salon.com
[08:41]	TR News	"Authorities have not yet disclosed which news report or social media post prompted the investigation." https://bianet.org/haber/journalist-ismail-ari-detained-after-complaint-from-former-media-regulator-chief-324642 | Source: BIA Net
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Journalist smail Ar detained after complaint from former media regulator chief
[08:42]	TR News	"hierarchy of needs" https://artlung.com/blog/2026/10/19/be-indieweb-enough/ | Source: Joe Crawford
[08:42]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 200 @ https://artlung.com/blog/2026/10/19/be-indieweb-enough/ )
[08:42]	TR News	"it is non-binding, does not create criminal offences, and does not restrict Charter-protected expression." https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2026/10/position-has-not-changed-the-canadian-government-reaffirms-that-antisemitism-includes-anti-zionism/ | Source: Michael Geist
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Position Has Not Changed: The Canadian Government Reaffirms That Antisemitism Includes Anti-Zionism - Michael Geist
[08:43]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> it would take me longer than to cycle
[08:43]	TR News	"Following the temporary suspension and lockout of the No Kings Instagram account during the largest single-day voting activation in U.S. history, the coalition demands full public transparency from Meta by October 21" https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/no-kings-coalition-issues-open-letter-to-mark-zuckerberg-demanding-answers-on-metas-censorship-of-historic-early-vote-mobilization | Source: Common Dreams
[08:43]	TR Bot	 No Kings Coalition Issues Open Letter to Mark Zuckerberg Demanding Answers on Metas Censorship of Historic Early Vote Mobilization | Common Dreams
[08:43]	TR News	"Our response should be the same either way." https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/20/accident-or-not-the-no-kings-takedown-is-why-you-shouldnt-rent-your-megaphone-from-zuck/ | Source: Techdirt
[08:43]	TR Bot	Or Not, The No Kings Takedown Is Why You Shouldnt Rent Your Megaphone From Zuck | Techdirt
[08:43]	TR News	"The Israeli government has threatened to strip the NAZA directors of their citizenship and prosecute them." https://jacobin.com/2026/10/naza-film-review-veterans-israel | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[08:43]	TR Bot	 Israel Fears NAZA. Why Dont Our Films Scare Anyone?
[08:43]	parsifal	During one of my visits to London, I noticed that leaving a bicycle locked at a rack isn't a particularly good idea. On almost every street, you could see the same thing: the stripped remains of bikes.
[08:43]	parsifal	Essentially the parts that couldn't be detached. Most were rusted and had been sitting there for quite a while, but there were some fresh ones, too.
[08:44]	TR News	"Ternus hard technical skills may not translate easily to a position that involves toggling from Hollywood to stockholders, to politicians shaping policy, to rival CEOs in the constellation of tech companies whose power challenges nation-states." https://time.com/collection/best-inventions/2026/apple-iphone-duo/ | Source: Time
[08:44]	TR Bot	( status 406 @ https://time.com/collection/best-inventions/2026/apple-iphone-duo/ )
[08:44]	parsifal	Quite a few patches on the roads, but slow traffic and drivers who were attentive to cyclists -> I really liked that ;)
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	not just in london
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	it needs to be a place with actual eyes on
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	like security outpost
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	CCTC does not count
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	*CCTV
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/05/25/surveillance/
[08:44]	TR Bot	Blog Archive CCTV Not Effective
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	^ bike theft in manchester
[08:45]	TR News	"Data Center War" https://www.jwz.org/blog/2026/10/no-war-but-data-center-war/ | Source: Jamie Zawinski
[08:45]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2026/10/no-war-but-data-center-war/ )
[08:46]	TR News	"The Republican Party once stood for limited government, active opposition to Soviet aggression, and a balanced budget." https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-tragic-death-of-the-republican | Source: Robert Reich
[08:46]	TR Bot	 The Tragic Death of the Republican Party - Robert Reich
[08:47]	TR News	"I am delighted to share the news that Blythe Masters has been appointed as the next Chair of the Raspberry Pi Foundations Board of Trustees." https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-next-chair-of-the-board-of-trustees-blythe-masters/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[08:47]	TR Bot	 The next Chair of the Board of Trustees, Blythe Masters - Raspberry Pi Foundation
[08:47]	TR News	"While trust in government has been low in the United States for decades, polls suggest it is a more recent phenomenon in Europe." https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2026/1020/france-protests-democracy-debt-crisis-europe-spain-germany | Source: CS Monitor
[08:47]	TR Bot	must change. Voters arent willing to. Who blinks? - CSMonitor.com
[08:47]	TR News	"The bill would let the government block a models release or use only if it poses a foreseeable, imminent risk of more than $1 billion in damages, or of killing or seriously injuring more than 50 people." https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/16/anthropic-ai-safety-01124654 | Source: Politico LLC
[08:47]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.politico.com/news/2026/10/16/anthropic-ai-safety-01124654 )
[08:48]	TR News	"imminent threat" https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/anthropic-regulation-government-ai-harm-risk | Source: Futurism
[08:48]	TR Bot	 Anthropic Secretly Lobbying Government to Only Shut Down an AI Model If It's Poised to Kill More Than 50 People
[08:48]		*IsambardPrince has quit (connection closed)
[08:48]	TR News	"Co-authoring her latest book, End Times Fascism, alongside Astra Taylor, Klein argues that humanity is facing a dangerous convergence of ecological crises" https://pariganaka.com/naomi-klein-on-the-end-of-capitalism-inside-bbc-radicals-deep-dive-on-end-times-fascism/ | Source: Pariganaka
[08:48]	TR Bot	Klein on the End of Capitalism: Inside BBC Radicals Deep Dive on "End Times Fascism" - PARIGANAKA
[08:49]	TR News	"This post explains why this company is needed, what changed in the NGI TALER consortium, and how citizens who want to see Taler succeed can help, including as investors." https://www.taler.net/en/news/2026-13.html | Source: GNU Taler
[08:49]	TR Bot	 GNU Taler
[08:49]		*IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@8azsgkhmi44v6.irc) has joined #techrights
[08:49]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> ^ bike theft in manchester
[08:49]	parsifal	I didn't notice things like that in Hungary in general, or in Budapest in particular. Im not sure what the reason is -> fewer thieves, stricter police, or perhaps both.  <---\_( )_/
[08:52]	parsifal	Regarding England as a whole -> Wonderful rural routes outside the city with beautiful views. I enjoyed this part much more than my time in the capital for work ;)
[08:54]	TR News	 (NEW):  Getting ready to operate Taler in Germany https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Getting_ready_to_operate_Taler_in_Germany.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Getting_ready_to_operate_Taler_in_Germany.gmi 
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Getting ready to operate Taler in Germany
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	we like England
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	no place is perfect
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	re bikes
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	i had little issues-wise
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't have very expensive one
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	it invites intrigue
[08:56]	TR News	"According to the National Parks Service, the path now connects many of Bryce Canyon's most visited destinations, including the Bryce Canyon Visitor's Center" https://www.ksl.com/article/51638860/final-phase-of-24-mile-bryce-canyon-shared-use-path-complete | Source: Deseret Media
[08:56]	TR Bot	phase of 24-mile Bryce Canyon Shared Use Path complete | KSL.com
[08:57]	TR News	"The current and expected power draw of AI data centers has been the subject of strong discussion, but today, there appears to be some good news." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/us-takes-unprecedented-step-of-recommissioning-nuclear-plants-due-to-ai-power-demand-2-25-gw-currently-on-tap-from-refurbished-reactors | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:57]	TR Bot	 US restarts three shut-down nuclear reactors to feed AI data centers 2.25 GW coming online with backing from Microsoft and Google | Tom's Hardware
[08:57]	TR News	"AI Guardrail #1: Rein in data centers, starting with a total national pause on data center development until more regulations are in place. This is necessary AND popular." https://robertreich.substack.com/p/how-to-protect-humanity-from-ai | Source: Robert Reich
[08:57]	TR Bot	 How to Protect Humanity from AI - Robert Reich
[08:57]	TR News	"Scientists working on coral found that when they had a bleached and healthy example accidentally touching in the lab" https://hackaday.com/2026/10/20/spreading-life-to-bleached-coral/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:57]	TR Bot	Life To Bleached Coral | Hackaday
● Oct 21
[09:01]	TR News	"As plastic fragments into smaller and smaller particles, its surface area increases enormously" https://www.sciencealert.com/microplastics-are-chemically-active-and-could-cause-biological-harm | Source: Science Alert
[09:01]	TR Bot	Aren't Inert After All: In Water, They Make DNA-Damaging Free Radicals : ScienceAlert
[09:05]	TR News	"The new law eliminated many of those regulations and cut reporting requirements to the states environmental agency reducing the states ability to track future wetland loss." https://wpln.org/post/data-centers-and-wetlands-where-tennessees-district-9-candidates-stand-on-the-enviornment/ | Source: Nashville Public Radio
[09:05]	TR Bot	 Data centers and wetlands: where Tennessee's District 9 candidates stand on the environment | WPLN News
[09:05]	TR News	"The signal crayfish did deliver on fishing. It has provided good fishing opportunities in southern Sweden, and built fishable populations in lakes Hjlmaren and Vttern." https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/in-the-1960s-sweden-introduced-signal-crayfish-to-support-fishing-the-plague-carrying-invaders-helped-cut-native-noble-crayfish-populations-fourfold-101791798115650.html | Source: Hindustan Times
[09:05]	TR Bot	 In the 1960s, Sweden introduced signal crayfish to support fishing; the plague-carrying invaders helped cut native noble crayfish populations fourfold | World News
[09:08]	TR News	There are phone emulators for Linux; no need for a "Real Thing" anymore. For Android, there are many options.
[09:08]	TR News	"The collective cognitive failure to be able to read Donald Trump has blinded us to the extent to which Donald Trumps betrayal of Ukraine is about Iran Iran Iran as much as it is Russia Russia Russia." https://emptywheel.net/2026/10/20/trumps-latest-russia-russia-russia-turn-is-about-iran-iran-iran/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Trump's Latest Russia Russia Russia Turn Is about Iran Iran Iran - emptywheel
[09:09]	TR News	ctrl-shift-m in FF is nice, it does help show what some pages might look like on the SmallScreens
[09:10]	TR News	"soldiers death" https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/hegseth-honors-terrorist-with-firing | Source: Ken Klippenstein
[09:10]	TR Bot	 Hegseth Honors Terrorist With Firing Squad Gift
[09:10]	TR News	"Trumps support for Putin is unique in American history" https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-traitor-in-chief | Source: Paul Krugman
[09:10]	TR Bot	 The Traitor in Chief - Paul Krugman
[09:10]	TR News	"One thing that still staggers me is: the undramatic slow painstaking action of getting voters to the polls had real consequences on January 5; it achieved its goal." https://www.meditationsinanemergency.com/the-democracy-vs-oligarchy-showdown-is-here/ | Source: Rebecca Solnit
[09:10]	TR Bot	 The Democracy Vs. Oligarchy Showdown Is Here
[09:12]		*psydroid2 (~psydroid@kcvnmgbxt8eqq.irc) has joined #techrights
[09:12]	TR News	"ECHOTRIBBLE" https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/us-army-reportedly-developing-program-that-would-deploy-ai-agents-to-autonomously-seek-and-destroy-targets-in-enemy-digital-infrastructures-experts-warn-echotribble-program-could-have-disastrous-consequences | Source: Tom's Hardware
[09:12]	TR Bot	 US Army reportedly developing program that would deploy AI agents to autonomously seek and destroy targets in enemy digital infrastructures experts warn ECHOTRIBBLE program could have disastrous consequences | Tom's Hardware
[09:12]	TR News	"Among the proponents of these programs are the influential Koch family network and Pennsylvania billionaire Jeffrey Yass, who has spent more than $350 million since 2015 on political campaigns" https://www.propublica.org/article/west-virginia-school-choice-billionaires-vernon-criss | Source: Pro Publica
[09:12]	TR Bot	 How Pro-School Choice Billionaires Helped Unseat a West Virginia Lawmaker ProPublica
[09:13]	TR News	"In recent months, in reviving debunked theories about the 2020 election, the Trump administration has declassified troves of records, including sensitive material that state officials provided to CISA" https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-gutting-of-election-security/ | Source: Truthdig
[09:13]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-gutting-of-election-security/ )
[09:13]	TR News	"Given the administrations poor track record at tackling corruption, here are some tips you can submit to the website: [...]" https://newrepublic.com/post/216855/report-trump-anti-fraud-website | Source: New Republic
[09:13]	TR Bot	 How to Report Trump for Fraud on His New Anti-Fraud Website | The New Republic
[09:13]	TR News	"What they found was a large and hidden pool of Main Street millionaires." https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2026/10/your-neighbors-no-bezos-but-he-might-be-stealthy-wealthy/ | Source: Harvard University
[09:13]	TR Bot	 Your neighbors no Bezos, but he might be stealthy wealthy Harvard Gazette
[09:14]	TR News	"The restriction cut Ukraines access to the satellite service and hurt both defensive and offensive drone missions against Russian forces." https://www.outlookindia.com/international/elon-musk-ordered-starlink-slowdown-that-disrupted-ukraine-drone-operations-report | Source: Outlook Publishing India Pvy Ltd
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Ordered Starlink Slowdown That Disrupted Ukraine Drone Operations: Report | Outlook India
[09:14]	TR News	"Some US officials, the report said, believed Musk acted unilaterally and that Trump did not specifically order retribution against Ukraine." https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-ordered-a-slowdown-of-starlink-in-ukraine-report/a-79718899 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk ordered a slowdown of Starlink in Ukraine report
[09:14]	TR News	"SpaceX representatives contacted their White House counterparts to agree on a statement saying the company and the Trump administration had coordinated their actions." https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/10/21/did-trump-know-musk-was-about-to-restrict-ukraine-s-military-starlink-service-wsj-reports-they-discussed-the-decision-afterward-some-sources-say-they-also-spoke-beforehand | Source: Meduza
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Did Trump know Musk was about to restrict Ukraines military Starlink service? WSJ reports they discussed the decision afterward. Some sources say they also spoke beforehand. Meduza
[09:14]	TR News	"Russias invisible hand in the UK's cost of living" https://neweasterneurope.eu/2026/10/19/from-russia-with-hate-russias-invisible-hand-in-the-uks-cost-of-living-extremism-and-immigration-crises/ | Source: New Eastern Europe
[09:14]	TR Bot	 From Russia, with hate: Russias invisible hand in the UK's cost of living, extremism and immigration crises - New Eastern Europe
[09:15]	TR News	"Which leads me to an obvious problem. That check-in data is intimate stuff. It probably shouldnt be something private equity can just inherit and do whatever with." https://werd.io/foursquare-died-at-the-hands-of-private-equity-what-happens-next/ | Source: Ben Werdmuller
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Foursquare died at the hands of private equity. What happens next?
[09:15]	TR News	"Online rights have been slowly stripped away, but to be fair they haven't been taken away as much as we have given them up in exchange for convenience." https://var0.xyz/posts/introducing-syrinx.html | Source: Var Zero
[09:15]	TR Bot	A censorship-resistant communications platform var0.xyz
[09:15]	TR News	"In addition to running 23andMe, Wojcicki is the CEO of the Chrome Holding Company, the entity that settled with Bonta." https://therecord.media/23andme-california-data-breach-settlement | Source: The Record
[09:15]	TR Bot	 23andMe successor settles with California for $6 million over cybersecurity failings | The Record from Recorded Future News
[09:15]	TR News	"In a victory for data privacy, a federal court in New York definitively ruled that the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) violated the law when it disclosed millions of federal employee records to DOGE [sic] agents." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/victory-court-rules-opms-disclosure-personal-records-doge-unlawful | Source: EFF
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Victory! Court Rules OPM Data Disclosure to DOGE Is Unlawful | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[09:20]	TR News	"A technical post-mortem and analysis of the eMudhra intermediate CA compromise, detailing the 8-bit entropy defect, Key Generation Ceremony findings, WebPKI revocation gaps in backend systems, and mitigation steps." https://lorbic.com/emudhra-ca-compromise-web-pki/ | Source: Vikash Patel
[09:20]	TR Bot	eMudhra CA Compromise | Lorbic
[09:20]	TR News	"Google, Mozilla, Apple, the Go project and others moved swiftly to block the affected certificates from the Indian CA, though it's unclear how the keys were compromised." https://www.darkreading.com/cyber-risk/tech-giants-emudhra-certificates-compromised-keys | Source: Dark Reading
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Tech Giants Block eMudhra Certificates Tied to 8 Compromised Keys
[09:20]	TR News	"New Nozzle research shows Google has been serving rank trackers normal-looking SERPs with the results swapped out, and 8.4% of SERPs have come back poisoned since September 13." https://coywolf.com/news/seo/rank-trackers-getting-poisoned-serps-from-google/ | Source: Coywolf LLC
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Google is feeding rank trackers poisoned SERPs with swapped results, Nozzle finds
[09:20]	TR News	"This is an update to articles I posted in May and October 2026 ahead of the DNS root KSK rollover on 11 October." https://blog.apnic.net/2026/10/21/rolling-the-root-key-what-happened/ | Source: APNIC
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Rolling the root key: What happened? | APNIC Blog
[09:21]	TR News	 (NEW):  Linux Mints new system monitor does more than youd expect https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/19/Linux_Mint_s_new_system_monitor_does_more_than_you_d_expect.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/19/Linux_Mint_s_new_system_monitor_does_more_than_you_d_expect.gmi 
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux Mints new system monitor does more than youd expect
[09:21]	TR News	Windows TCO: "In Secureframes 2026 State of Federal Cybersecurity Report" https://federalnewsnetwork.com/commentary/2026/10/cybersecurity-awareness-must-extend-beyond-passwords-and-phishing-to-become-truly-operational/ | Source: Federal News Network
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Cybersecurity awareness must extend beyond passwords and phishing to become truly operational - Federal News Network
[09:21]	TR News	Windows TCO: "They use legitimate tools to compress files and exfiltrate them before deploying the ransomware on victim devices." https://therecord.media/fbi-says-safepay-ransomware-gang-among-most-active-600-victims | Source: The Record
[09:21]	TR Bot	 FBI says SafePay ransomware gang among most active with more than 600 victims since 2024 | The Record from Recorded Future News
[09:21]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> don't have very expensive one -> It doesnt matter how much your bike costs, but rather how much you ride it :) \o/ ;)
[09:21]	parsifal	^The scene is full of people pouring buckets of money into this hobby -> thinking that the more they spend, the closer they get to the performance of the pros... 
[09:22]	parsifal	Well, they dont. Heres an example: for a non-professional, the difference between using clipless pedals and flat pedals is only about +5% in favor of the clipless ones -> yet the risk of failing to unclip in time and taking a nasty spill shoots up by 8595%...
[09:22]	TR News	Windows TCO: "halted normal enrollment data processing and paused certain testing activities while the security of its systems are assessed" https://therecord.media/california-warns-all-public-school-students-of-data-breach | Source: The Record
[09:22]	TR Bot	 California warns all public school students of data stolen in contractor breach | The Record from Recorded Future News
[09:22]	parsifal	The bicycle industry relies precisely on these people, for this very reason, beyond a certain point, there is no upper price limit -> everything costs three times as much, whether its parts, related upgrades, bicycles, maintenance, gear, or anything else.
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	we went to a shop months go
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	a bike shop[
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	but almost everything there is trek
[09:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  SnapOS NixOS-based Linux distribution with familiar commands https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/SnapOS_NixOS_based_Linux_distribution_with_familiar_commands.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/SnapOS_NixOS_based_Linux_distribution_with_familiar_commands.gmi 
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines SnapOS NixOS-based Linux distribution with familiar commands
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	and a lot eletric-mootirised
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	wwwe had no intention of buying
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	the prices were obscene
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	and those bikes are good candidates for stealing
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	if flea market value of your bike is 20 pounds
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	then it's not worth the risk of stealing
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	the cost of recovery for  police iis high
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	and if you tell them, it's this "BRAND" thing
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	that won't stay them
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not a car or motorbike
[09:24]	TR News	 (NEW):  AOSC OS general-purpose Linux distribution https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/AOSC_OS_general_purpose_Linux_distribution.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/AOSC_OS_general_purpose_Linux_distribution.gmi 
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines AOSC OS general-purpose Linux distribution
[09:24]	TR News	Windows TCO: "As a consequence, British police are reportedly examining whether their own inquiry could lead to a charge of unlawful killing." https://www.bitdefender.com/en-us/blog/hotforsecurity/qilin-ransomware-arrested-synnovis-patient-death | Source: Bitdefender
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Police arrest Qilin ransomware suspect on holiday, as links made to Synnovis hack that contributed to patient's death
[09:25]	parsifal	Trek is a particularly striking example of high prices, but they do have one advantage: they offer a lifetime warranty on their carbon frames and will replace them if they crack or get damaged due to a manufacturing defect.
[09:25]	TR News	"Facebook has decided that Pages need to pay to share more than two hyperlinks per month. I share six per week." https://blog.jimgrey.net/2026/10/20/good-blogkeeping-shutting-down-my-companion-facebook-page/ | Source: Jim Grey
[09:25]	TR Bot	 Good blogkeeping: Shutting down my companion Facebook page - Down the Road
[09:26]	TR News	"What did the Times report that might be useful to its readers?" https://robertreich.substack.com/p/enough-with-the-false-equivalencies | Source: Robert Reich
[09:26]	TR Bot	 Enough With the False Equivalencies! - Robert Reich
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: they won't last as long as many buyers
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	in a market like this
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	where people look for cheap
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's like YMMCA with lifetime gym membership
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's like man on the moon and land on the moon
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	you pay a lot of money upfront
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	based on a false assumptionb
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	automattic had this offer with wordpress
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	like lifetime hosting and domain, or 100 years
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	how many companies last that long??
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	not even the WWW will last this long
[09:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	then what?
[09:28]	TR News	"TikTok and other sites were told to curb protest footage and AI-altered images, while online retailers like Vinted and eBay reportedly signed an agreement stop looted goods from flooding resale sites." https://www.wired.com/story/french-government-calls-emergency-meetings-with-platforms-over-protests/ | Source: Wired
[09:28]	TR Bot	Government Calls Emergency Meetings With Platforms Over Protests | WIRED
[09:28]	TR News	"The study, ordered last year by then-Equality Minister Magnus Heunicke and Digitalisation Minister Caroline Stage" https://www.thelocal.dk/20261019/study-young-men-in-denmark-see-misogynist-content-after-minutes-on-social-media | Source: The Local DK
[09:28]	TR Bot	 Study: Young men in Denmark shown misogynist content within minutes on social media
[09:29]	TR News	"For another, this definition lets us understand that (for most of its existence) Google was the most successful publisher in human history" https://pluralistic.net/2026/10/20/main-character-syndrome/#scroogled | Source: CoryDoctorow
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: The death of historys most successful publisher (20 Oct 2026) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[09:29]	TR News	"Note that when they say "about" $4.2T they really mean "at least" $4.2T it could be $4.8T." https://blog.dshr.org/2026/10/the-underpants-gnomes-step-2.html | Source: David Rosenthal
[09:29]	TR Bot	 DSHR's Blog: The Underpants Gnomes' Step 2
[09:29]	TR News	"Their ideas on where "about" $4.2T of new revenue to pay for data centers would come from are laughable. For example, they suggest that autonomous vehicles would supply 10% of it but don't notice that the AI for the vehicles wouldn't be in a data center, it would be in the vehicle."
[09:30]	TR News	Five tech giants are hiding $1.65tn in AI debt, using the trick that toppled Enron https://thenextweb.com/news/tech-giants-hidden-off-balance-sheet-debt-ai
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Five tech giants are hiding $1.65tn in AI debt, using the trick that toppled Enron
[09:30]	TR News	"I don't want to read lengthy blog posts that have been spat out by a Large Language Model (LLM), because the author hasn't felt they want to write the words to share their point." https://www.jvt.me/posts/2026/10/20/ai/ | Source: Jamie Tanna
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Being more explicit with the limited AI usage in my blog posts' content Jamie Tanna | Software Engineer
[09:30]	TR News	"I found out this week that a fleet of AI agents used httpbin to get past their sandbox." https://kennethreitz.org/essays/2026-10-20-i_built_the_escape_hatch | Source: Kenneth Reitz
[09:30]	TR Bot	 I Built the Escape Hatch - Kenneth Reitz
[09:31]	TR News	"Still, theres still time to act before the first big AI-enabled tragedy strikes, according to new research from the Kennedy Schools Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs." https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2026/10/is-it-already-too-late-to-reduce-catastrophic-ai-risk/ | Source: Harvard University
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Is it already too late to reduce catastrophic AI risk? Harvard Gazette
[09:31]	TR News	"In narrow circumstances, speech alone can break the law, and here things get trickier." https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/20/ai-firms-should-answer-for-what-their-models-say-on-the-same-terms-as-everyone-else/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:31]	TR Bot	Firms Should Answer For What Their Models SayOn The Same Terms As Everyone Else | Techdirt
[09:31]	TR News	"AI detectors use machine-learning models to analyse patterns in writing. They compare these patterns with characteristics learned from human-written and AI-generated text." https://www.bhaskarenglish.in/tech-science/news/top-5-ai-detection-tools-check-content-job-recruiters-india-139432344.html | Source: Bhaskar English
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Top 5 AI Detection Tools | How Recruiters Catch AI-Written Job Answers
[09:31]	TR News	"Every AI system that can use an organisations data and systems needs a named human owner, a defined approval boundary and a record of what it did. These must be in place before it acts." https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/before-an-ai-agent-acts-name-whos-responsible/ | Source: The Strategist
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Before an AI agent acts, name whos responsible | The Strategist
[09:31]	TR News	"Five questions every business should answer before putting AI to work, from a veteran South African AI researcher." https://techcentral.co.za/responsible-ai-doom-wrong-question-business/287476/ | Source: Tech Central (South Africa)
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Your AI isn't as smart as it sounds
[09:32]	TR News	"I had a Word file, hosted on a SharePoint server, and when I went to edit it I simply could not insert nonbreaking spaces, no-width nonbreaks and other invisible characters." https://darrengoossens.wordpress.com/2026/10/20/word-file-in-which-i-cannot-insert-nonbreaking-spaces/ | Source: Darren Goossens
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Word file in which I cannot insert nonbreaking spaces DSPACE
[09:32]	TR News	"The good news is, Plex actually patched these vulnerabilities back in September." https://www.pcworld.com/article/3265049/hackers-are-hijacking-plex-servers-to-mine-crypto-update-asap.html | Source: PC World
[09:32]	TR Bot	are hijacking Plex servers to mine crypto. Update ASAP | PCWorld
[09:34]	TR News	"Compare OpenWrt routers for homelabs, budget builds and SQM. Check exact firmware support, VLAN needs, ports and shaping performance before buying." https://bufferspeed.com/blog/best-openwrt-routers |
[09:34]	TR Bot	OpenWrt Routers: Homelabs, Budget & SQM | BufferSpeed
[09:34]	TR News	"PCWorld reports that a 16-year-old security flaw called WPSplinter affects millions of routers from major brands like Asus and Netgear, with no full fix currently available." https://www.pcworld.com/article/3265053/millions-of-routers-have-a-16-year-old-flaw-that-nobody-plans-to-fix.html | Source: PC World
[09:34]	TR Bot	of routers have a 16-year-old flaw that nobody plans to fix | PCWorld
[09:34]	TR News	"I ran into wall after wall. A death certificate only helped so much, too. Had he taken a few steps for digital estate planning" https://www.pcworld.com/article/3260417/my-friend-died-suddenly-i-wish-hed-taken-these-4-steps-for-digital-estate-planning.html | Source: PC World
[09:34]	TR Bot	digital estate planning tips everyone forgets | PCWorld
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[09:36]	TR News	 (NEW):  I'd pick a 10-year-old desktop running Linux over a new $300 Windows laptop every time https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/I_d_pick_a_10_year_old_desktop_running_Linux_over_a_new_300_Win.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/I_d_pick_a_10_year_old_desktop_running_Linux_over_a_new_300_Win.gmi 
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines I'd pick a 10-year-old desktop running Linux over a new $300 Windows laptop every time
[09:36]	TR News	Puppy Breaker is very jealous of Daniel Pocock because he accomplished a lot without spending a million dollars on racist lawyers and does not collaborate with men who strangle women
[09:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  openEuler brings China's enterprise Linux ambitions to the desktop https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/openEuler_brings_China_s_enterprise_Linux_ambitions_to_the_desk.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/openEuler_brings_China_s_enterprise_Linux_ambitions_to_the_desk.gmi 
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines openEuler brings China's enterprise Linux ambitions to the desktop
[09:38]	TR News	Puppy Breaker also says "I'm a security professional"; yeah, like everybody is a chef and every programmer is a medical doctor. He's just full of himself. https://techrights.org/n/2026/08/14/SLAPP_Censorship_Part_149_Out_of_200_It_Took_a_Long_Time_to_Sho.shtml https://techrights.org/n/2026/08/15/SLAPP_Censorship_Part_150_Out_of_200_Always_Independently_Verif.shtml
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights SLAPP Censorship - Part 149 Out of 200: It Took a Long Time to Show What Jason Arday (at Cambridge) and Harvey Weinstein (in Hollywood) Really Were
[09:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights SLAPP Censorship - Part 150 Out of 200: Always Independently Verify What People Claim to Be (or Find Yourself in a Jason Arday-Type Moment/Dilemma)
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[09:42]	TR News	"I can still remember a few years ago when people were claiming the cost of SSDs were going down so fast" https://www.rubenerd.au/how-were-dealing-with-a-data-space-crunch/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: How were dealing with a data space crunch
[09:42]	TR News	"Type sample a blocky sans serif typeface. Ketys for 4 currencies, cedilla, section sign, 4 horizontal bars, eszett, and a hash" https://darrengoossens.wordpress.com/2026/10/20/olympia-sg3-made-in-mexico/ | Source: Darren Goossens
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Olympia SG3 made in Mexico DSPACE
[09:43]	TR News	"I write this because I increasingly feel a strange social pressure. It's like I'm not "supposed" to enjoy this any more." https://chriskiehl.com/article/it-is-still-ok-to-enjoy-programming |
[09:43]	TR Bot	 It's still OK to enjoy programming - Blogomatano
[09:43]	TR News	"When people see AI as a more competent, trustworthy, and preferable source of input than a colleague, they replace human interactions that otherwise would have built or maintained trust." https://werd.io/ai-can-weaken-relationships-between-people-and-teams-suffer-as-a-result/ | Source: Ben Werdmuller
[09:43]	TR Bot	 AI can weaken relationships between people - and teams suffer as a result.
[09:43]	TR News	"There's a huge bias towards talking about people who were very notable or "successful" when young. So here are some interesting people who came through a little late." https://atharvaraykar.com/late-bloomers/ | Source: Atharva Raykar
[09:43]	TR Bot	 a few "late" bloomers Atharva Raykar
[09:44]	TR News	"Much of the code is about as good as youd expect. What stood out was how obsessed I was with finding clever ways to accomplish things, especially if I could squeeze them into very few lines." https://seg6.space/posts/questionable-cleverness/ | Source: mer Faruk B
[09:44]	TR Bot	 would I have learned as much with an LLM? seg6
[09:44]	TR News	"Anthropic is deceptively campaigning to end software engineering to support a trillion dollar IPO. Anything they say to devs is part of that process whether good, bad, or indifferent." https://raymyers.org/post/coding-is-largely-something/ | Source: Ray Myers
[09:44]	TR Bot	 "Coding" is Largely "Solved"
[09:44]	TR News	"In 1947, Martin Luther King Jr." https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2026/10/the-idea-of-a-university/ | Source: Harvard University
[09:44]	TR Bot	 The idea of a university Harvard Gazette
[09:44]	TR News	"Research Informations Scholarly Publishing: Trends for Constructive Growth report offered a useful counterweight to the product discussions." https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2026/10/20/from-content-to-trusted-knowledge-reflections-on-frankfurt-book-fair-2026/ | Source: Society for Scholarly Publishing
[09:44]	TR Bot	 From Content to Trusted Knowledge: Reflections on Frankfurt Book Fair 2026 - The Scholarly Kitchen
[09:45]	TR News	"is key X in this set?" https://www.calabro.io/ohbf |
[09:45]	TR Bot	 One Hash Bloom Filters - Jim Calabro
[09:45]	TR News	"We are launching the Bourgain Project, a community-driven initiative to revisit, expand upon, and explore the body of work of Jean Bourgain" https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2026/10/19/the-bourgain-project/ | Source: Terence Tao
[09:45]	TR Bot	 The Bourgain Project | What's new
[09:45]	TR News	"Recently, various digestions and simplifications of the argument have been produced by Banks, by Kerr, and by Green." https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2026/10/19/a-sketch-of-the-proof-of-non-existence-of-siegel-zeroes/ | Source: Terence Tao
[09:45]	TR Bot	 A sketch of the proof of non-existence of Siegel zeroes | What's new
[09:45]	TR News	"With everything assembled, the circularly-polarized antenna installed, and the computers up and running" https://hackaday.com/2026/10/20/going-whole-hog-on-a-first-satellite-ground-station/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:45]	TR Bot	Whole-Hog On A First Satellite Ground Station | Hackaday
[09:46]	TR News	"Working out loud is more than telling people what youre doing. It has two halves, and each one on its own falls short." https://jeroensangers.com/2026/10/20/working-out-loud-is-making.html | Source: Jeroen Sangers
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Working out loud is making your work observable while you do it and narrating it as you go | Jeroen Sangers
[09:46]	TR News	"And thats when it occurred to me. My seven-year-old might already understand the very thing that I have spent all semester teaching my legal research students." https://ripslawlibrarian.wordpress.com/2026/10/20/check-your-source-mom-what-a-seven-year-old-can-teach-us-about-legal-research/ | Source: RIPS Law Librarian Blog
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Check Your Source, Mom. What A Seven-Year-Old Can Teach Us About Legal Research | RIPS Law Librarian Blog
[09:46]	TR News	"Snap back to reality. But its not the same reality. That precious little pause lingers." https://robertbirming.com/precious-pauses/ | Source: Robert Birming
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Precious pauses Robert Birming
[09:46]	TR News	"Insider jargon, previously known as cant, is designed to keep outsiders out." https://seths.blog/2026/10/thieves-cant-slang/ | Source: Seth Godin
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Thieves cant slang | Seth's Blog
[09:48]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi 
[09:48]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free and Open Source Software
[09:50]	TR News	Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "The Tragic Death of the Republican Party" and &quot;No War But Data Center War&quot; https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_The_Tragic_Death_of_the_Republican_Party_and_N.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_The_Tragic_Death_of_the_Republican_Party_and_N.gmi 
[09:50]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "The Tragic Death of the Republican Party" and "No War But Data Center War"
[09:56]	TR News	"Its an unofficial wiki, though ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) does sponsor it." https://www.rubenerd.au/icann-has-an-unofficial-wiki/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[09:56]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: ICANN has an (unofficial) wiki
[09:57]	TR News	"How can we parse an IPv4 address with a throughput of 75 instructions in 15 CPU cycles, taking as low as ~3ns on an M6 processor?" https://blog.mahdibm.com/posts/a-very-fast-ipv4-parser-in-swift/ |
[09:57]	TR Bot	 A Very Fast IPv4 Parser, in Swift Mahdi Bahrami's blog
[09:57]	TR News	"When designing software, the requirements you dont have are as important as the requirements you do. Identifying what you can compromise on what can be slow, or stale, or inflexible is usually the key to an elegant design." https://www.seangoedecke.com/what-requirements-dont-you-have/ | Source: Sean Goedecke
[09:57]	TR Bot	 What requirements don't you have?
[09:57]	TR News	"When implementing Zincite1, I wanted a query language similar to the one I had built for Zirium." https://zayenz.se/blog/post/zirql/ | Source: Mikael Zayenz Lagerkvist
[09:57]	TR Bot	Zirql, an embeddable query language - zayenz.se
[09:58]	TR News	"Only vulnerabilities deemed to be HIGH or CRITICAL will be kept private in the HackerOne tracker." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2026/10/20/do-minor-curl-vulnerabilities-in-the-open/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[09:58]	TR Bot	minor curl vulnerabilities in the open | daniel.haxx.se
[09:58]	TR News	"The upshot of this is that you no longer need to rebuild the IDE if you want to add components, controls and Lazarus extensions." https://hackaday.com/2026/10/20/lazarus-and-the-free-pascal-compiler-gain-dynamic-package-support/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:58]	TR Bot	And The Free Pascal Compiler Gain Dynamic Package Support | Hackaday
[09:59]	TR News	"Some committee members lead specific tracks or have other significant roles in planning the conference." https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/blog/what-happens-after-you-submit-scale-proposal | Source: SoCal Linux Expo
[09:59]	TR Bot	 What Happens After You Submit a SCaLE Proposal | SCaLE
[09:59]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[09:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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[10:02]	TR News	"Hugo shortcodes and render hooks both produce custom HTML, but I choose between them by looking at the source content." https://ronaldsvilcins.com/2026/10/21/when-to-use-hugo-shortcodes-or-render-hooks/ | Source: Ronalds Vilci
[10:02]	TR Bot	 When to Use Hugo Shortcodes or Render Hooks Ronalds Vilci
[10:03]	TR News	"I wrote a somewhat flippant piece for a friends site (sadly now defunct) some time back about my frustration with people asking for websites as a sort of off-the-shelf, finished thing." https://alexmagill.com/writing/2026-10-20-no-such-thing-as-a-website/ | Source: Alex Magill
[10:03]	TR Bot	 No such thing as a website | Writing | Alex Magill
[10:04]	TR News	"The original idea was modest: a personal RSS reader I could self-host." https://andreinc.net/2026/10/20/lectura.info-a-new-rss-reader/ | Source: Andrei Nicolin Ciobanu
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Lectura.info: A new RSS reader | Personal Site of Andrei N. Ciobanu
[10:04]	TR News	"For the past few years, my rss feeds have lived locally on my phone only. There was a good idea behind that I can mostly take time to read when Im away from my computer anyway" https://entropicthoughts.com/nixos-is-making-me-less-afraid | Source: Chris
[10:04]	TR Bot	 NixOS is making me less afraid
[10:04]	TR News	"In June 2026, rOpenSci marked its 15th anniversary with three community celebration events: a themed coworking event and two extra events." https://ropensci.org/blog/2026/10/20/15yo-events/ | Source: rOpenSci
[10:04]	TR Bot	 rOpenSci | Celebrating 15 Years of rOpenSci: Then, Now & Next
[10:04]	TR News	"There are a bunch of Eglot-related resources in the Coding category today. Nice to see people working on lots of cool stuff!" https://sachachua.com/blog/2026/10/2026-10-19-emacs-news/ | Source: Sacha Chua
[10:04]	TR Bot	 2026-10-19 Emacs news :: Sacha Chua
[10:04]	TR News	"Signals end-call button could fail to fully end a call because of a critical RingRTC flaw fixed in a code change." https://sqmagazine.co.uk/signal-ringrtc-flaw-audio-after-hangup/ | Source: SQ Magazine
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Signal Fixes Critical Call Hangup Flaw CVE-2026-113380
[10:05]	TR News	"This sure looks like a proximity-based radio capability if you ask me." https://justin.sh/blog/2026/10/cellebrite-advanced-unlocks/ |
[10:05]	TR Bot	Is Cellebrite sitting on an iPhone radio 0day? justin.sh
[10:06]	TR News	"This demo connects ESP32-P4-PC to our USB-LTE4G-EU LTE Cat 1 bis modem over UART." https://olimex.wordpress.com/2026/10/20/esp32-p4-pc-got-two-new-software-demos-gsm-lte-connectivity-and-full-hardware-features-check/ | Source: Olimex
[10:06]	TR Bot	 ESP32-P4-PC got two new software demos GSM LTE connectivity and full hardware features check | olimex
[10:06]	TR News	"Crazy how technology has evolved in the last 20 years, but naturally the obvious question is by how much exactly?" https://blog.arduino.cc/2026/10/20/five-million-to-one-two-arduino-boards-20-years-apart/ | Source: Arduino
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Five million to one: two Arduino boards, 20 years apart | Arduino Blog
[10:06]	TR News	"Turns out, its a great case. Its very light, as expected, but protects well the board that fits perfectly inside." https://boilingsteam.com/a-nice-case-the-orange-pi-6-plus/index.html | Source: Boiling Steam
[10:06]	TR Bot	 A Pretty Case for the OrangePi 6 Plus
[10:07]	TR News	"[...] Then, in our Questions and Answers column, we discuss SELinux and AppArmor, two kernel-level technologies used for protecting the operating system." https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20261019 | Source: Distro Watch
[10:07]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20261019 )
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[10:08]	TR News	"Raspberry Pi and retro games go hand in hand, with people emulating classic consoles and computers on Raspberry Pi devices since shortly after the release" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-guide-to-retro-gaming/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[10:08]	TR Bot	 Introducing the Raspberry Pi Guide to Retro Gaming - Raspberry Pi
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[10:19]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> then what?
[10:19]	parsifal	...then... the curtain falls, and thats the end of the tragicomedy... xD \_( )_/
[10:20]	schestowitz[TR2]	what's the context?
[10:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  Africa Gravitates Towards Digital Independence With GNU/Linux and Software Freedom https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Africa_Gravitates_Towards_Digital_Independence_With_GNU_Linux_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Africa_Gravitates_Towards_Digital_Independence_With_GNU_Linux_a.gmi 
[10:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Africa Gravitates Towards Digital Independence With GNU/Linux and Software Freedom
[10:24]	parsifal	The context is that everything comes to an end -> You ask, "And then what?" and I tell you that nothing lasts forever.
[10:24]	parsifal	The end of the fairy tale ;)
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[10:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	<schestowitz[TR2]> how many companies last that long??
[10:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	<schestowitz[TR2]> not even the WWW will last this long
[10:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	<schestowitz[TR2]> then what?
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's like a scam/scheme
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	company realises it has no money
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it tells customrswe have a deal
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	pay us upfront for x years
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	even if the provider will fold a year later
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	inevitably
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	some people do not even pay rent upfront
[10:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	only per month
[10:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	because landlords are an uncertainty
[10:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they don't want to end up getting screwdd
[10:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	whereas landlords would love to be paid 20 years upfront
[10:28]	TR News	"The SSH agent cannot use the Secure Enclave identities as-is, but Apple has us covered with a small translation layer in the form of ssh-keychain.dylib" https://nmattia.com/posts/2026-10-19-setting-up-ssh-keys-touch-id/ | Source: Nicolas Mattia
[10:28]	TR Bot	 Nicolas Mattia Setting up SSH keys on macOS with Touch ID
[10:28]	TR News	"I have opted for oklch over lch, as oclch is the OK version of LCH." https://benfrain.com/colour-variants-from-base-colours-with-oklch-css-relative-color-and-css-functions/ | Source: Ben Frain
[10:28]	TR Bot	 Colour variants from base colours with OKLCH, CSS relative color, and CSS functions Ben Frain
[10:28]	parsifal	It might sound cynical, but if you dont have a landlord, you dont have a problem. As an owner, you spare yourself those kinds of headaches.
[10:28]	TR News	"So youve been shamefully using US Big Tech giant Clownflare for DNS? Its time to find an inopportune time to migrate away to a European alternative." https://dbushell.com/2026/10/20/how-not-to-migrate-from-cloudflare-dns/ | Source: David Bushell
[10:28]	TR Bot	 How not to migrate from Cloudflare DNS David Bushell Web Dev (UK)
[10:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	home owners have other kinds of problems
[10:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	they need to repair many things
[10:29]	TR News	"The real elapsed time is not just 457 days. It is 457 24 hours, plus the difference between the UTC offset at the start and at the end of the period." https://hacdias.com/2026/10/20/summer-failure/ | Source: Henrique Dias
[10:29]	TR Bot	 The Test That Only Failed in the Summer - Henrique Dias
[10:29]	TR News	"When it comes to creating a new file with ed and a here document, there is a difference between "GNU ed" and "ed" on BSD." https://box.matto.nl/creating-a-file-with-ed-and-a-here-document.html | Source: MJ Fransen
[10:29]	TR Bot	a file with ed and a here document - box.matto.nl
[10:30]	TR News	"Listen (or read the excellent transcript, thanks so much Zachary!) to the episode to hear about what bloggers can learn from Wikipedia" https://alexsirac.com/my-episode-on-the-web-weaving-podcast/ | Source: Alex Sirac
[10:30]	TR Bot	 [Note] My episode on the Web Weaving podcast Alex
[10:30]	TR News	"Since my rambles are lightly edited videos of me talking into the camera, they're a perfect fit for listening to without video." https://brettcodes.com/introducing-the-brett-codes-show-podcast/ | Source: Brett Chalupa
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Introducing the Brett Codes Show & coding a simple podcast site generator with Ruby Brett Codes
[10:31]	parsifal	Theres no such thing as a free lunch. Theres always a catch somewhere.
[10:32]	TR News	More Xbox layoffs start THIS MONTH. The month is already over, so....
[10:32]	TR News	"In Episode 24, I chat with Alex, the author of alexsirac.com about, among other things, collective intelligence in public commons, what the IndieWeb can learn from Wikipedia, community in comments, and more." https://web-weaving.jamesg.blog/24 | Source: Wonders of Web Weaving
[10:32]	TR Bot	 #24: Alex (alexsirac.com) - Wonders of Web Weaving
[10:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is free lunch
[10:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you    grow and prepare it
[10:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	but then you pay with your labour
[10:32]	TR News	"A 14-year-old from Canada just won a prize for a new theory of dark energy. I had a look at what he submitted, and it ticks all the boxes of a typical journal paper." https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2026/10/14-year-old-wins-prize-for-new-theory.html | Source: Sabine Hossenfelder
[10:32]	TR Bot	 Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: 14-Year-Old Wins Prize for New Theory of Dark Energy
[10:34]	TR News	AMD FSR Upscaling 4.1 expands support to older Desktops, Laptops, Handhelds, Consoles and Vulkan | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/amd-fsr-upscaling-4-1-expands-support-to-older-desktops-laptops-handhelds-consoles-and-vulkan/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:34]	TR Bot	FSR Upscaling 4.1 expands support to older Desktops, Laptops, Handhelds, Consoles and Vulkan | GamingOnLinux
[10:34]	TR News	Here's the highlights from the recent 2026 Out of Bounds Showcase | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/heres-the-highlights-from-the-recent-2026-out-of-bounds-showcase/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:34]	TR Bot	the highlights from the recent 2026 Out of Bounds Showcase | GamingOnLinux
[10:35]	TR News	HEAT: Pedal to the Metal by Days of Wonder is getting an official video game adaptation | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/heat-pedal-to-the-metal-by-days-of-wonder-is-getting-an-official-video-game-adaptation/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:35]	TR Bot	Pedal to the Metal by Days of Wonder is getting an official video game adaptation | GamingOnLinux
[10:35]	TR News	Unforgiving cave-exploration survival simulator Casualties: Unknown arrives November 9 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/unforgiving-cave-exploration-survival-simulator-casualties-unknown-arrives-november-9/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:35]	TR Bot	cave-exploration survival simulator Casualties: Unknown arrives November 9 | GamingOnLinux
[10:36]	TR News	Score touchdowns and win it all in the retro-inspired, side-scrolling Classic American Football | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/score-touchdowns-and-win-it-all-in-the-retro-inspired-side-scrolling-classic-american-football/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:36]	TR Bot	touchdowns and win it all in the retro-inspired, side-scrolling Classic American Football | GamingOnLinux
[10:36]	TR News	Helldivers 2 switches over from GameGuard to Easy Anti-Cheat | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/helldivers-2-switches-over-from-gameguard-to-easy-anti-cheat/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:36]	TR Bot	2 switches over from GameGuard to Easy Anti-Cheat | GamingOnLinux
[10:37]	parsifal	Its the same with Linux: its free, but you pay with your time and a lot of hard work to learn it - yet the investment yields a huge return.
[10:37]	parsifal	Regarding bicycles: <schestowitz[TR2]> parsifal: they won't last as long as many buyers
[10:37]	parsifal	Trek has a 50 year history, but you're right that nothing lasts forever ;)
[10:38]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> where people look for cheap
[10:38]	TR News	"The recent Linux Foundation research report,Navigating Open Source Software Development in the Generative AI Era, sponsored in part by Red Hat, offers useful evidence for thinking about what that foundation should look like." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/building-ai-open-source-way-research-insights-red-hat-and-linux-foundation | Source: Red Hat Official
[10:38]	parsifal	^As I said, they, and others like them -> cater to people with deep pockets, and there are quite a few of those. Besides, its not just Trek, the market is full of specialized aftermarket companies, like Onyx, for instance.
[10:38]	TR Bot	 Building AI the open source way: Research insights from Red Hat and the Linux Foundation
[10:38]	parsifal	They manufacture bicycle hubs -> a single rear hub, and not even a particularly good one at that, costs $500. Youve also got a local example of a high-end manufacturer with just as long history as Trek: Brompton.
[10:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: people also need to learn Windows
[10:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	and android... and ios
[10:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	<parsifal> Trek has a 50 year history, but you're right that nothing lasts forever ;)
[10:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	i wondered 
[10:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	aand pondered saying
[10:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	without checking, they probablyu lasted less than my lifetime so far
[10:39]	parsifal	They produce bicycles that are fundamentally different in type, yet in terms of price, they are like twins. Its a brand that targets hipsters with not much sense, but lots, and I mean LOTS of money.
[10:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	i can imagine
[10:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	but
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	rianne and I said
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	or concluded
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	at that price range
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	get a motorcycle
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	for electric scootetrs here people need a licence or permit
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	I think motorised bikes are the same for some capacities
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	but I did not check
[10:40]	parsifal	^If you have any doubts, check the price of the titanium version -> but make sure youre sitting down first, or your head might start spinning...
[10:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	as some of them are like Vespa++
[10:41]	TR News	Red Hat is now selling slop as "Open Source". Ludicrous and insulting.
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[10:42]	parsifal	Mopeds are for lazy people, and theyre also noisy and smelly...
[10:42]	TR News	GAFAM front group LF and IBM try to sell the moral fraud and lie of "open source AI" - same lie OSI sells. "As Red Hat continued this work, conversations with our enterprise users exposed a new reality. Getting a single server to perform efficiently was table stakes." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/crossing-threshold-dependable-open-source-ai-serving | Source: Red Hat Official
[10:42]	TR Bot	 Crossing the threshold to dependable open source AI serving
[10:42]	TR News	Microsoft paid OSI to sell this lie and moreover to attack the GPL by legitimising GPL violations.
[10:43]	TR News	Red Hat is so proud of slop peddling: disinformation, plagiarism, fraud, pyramid scheme etc. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-delta-air-lines-scaled-ai-native-development-1200-engineers-cloud-development-environments | Source: Red Hat Official
[10:43]	TR Bot	 How Delta Air Lines scaled AI-native development to 1,200 engineers with cloud development environments
[10:44]	TR News	IBM Red Hat quit pretending to be a Linux company, it's 100% about slop plagiarism and the technical details don't matter, let alone 'pesky' legal aspects https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/mlops-edge-ai-managing-ai-models-across-distributed-fleets | Source: Red Hat Official
[10:44]	TR Bot	 MLOps for edge AI: Managing AI models across distributed fleets
[10:45]	TR News	Ahead of IBM's results 100% of Red Hat's official blog is only about slop, basically selling lies, false promises, and liabilities to gullible companies (or IBM shareholders) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/shared-gpus-without-shared-latency-priority-aware-serving-in-red-hat-ai | Source: Red Hat Official
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Shared GPUs without shared latency: Priority-aware serving in Red Hat AI
[10:47]	TR News	Here's some interesting Native Linux demos in Steam Next Fest Oct 26 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/some-interesting-native-linux-demos-in-steam-next-fest-oct-26/ Source: GamingOnLinux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/some-interesting-native-linux-demos-in-steam-next-fest-oct-26/
[10:47]	TR Bot	some interesting Native Linux demos in Steam Next Fest Oct 26 | GamingOnLinux
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[10:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	<parsifal> Mopeds are for lazy people, and theyre also noisy and smelly...
[10:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	very common in taiwan
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[10:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and maybe vietnam
[10:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	they do help them get around
[10:47]	TR News	Time-looping claymation puzzle-platformer UvsU: You vs You launches in January 2027 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/time-looping-claymation-puzzle-platformer-uvsu-you-vs-you-launches-in-january-2027/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:47]	TR Bot	claymation puzzle-platformer UvsU: You vs You launches in January 2027 | GamingOnLinux
[10:48]	TR News	Dark first-person fishing adventure DREADMOOR looks awesome, arrives November 9 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/dark-first-person-fishing-adventure-dreadmoor-looks-awesome-arrives-november-9/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:48]	TR Bot	first-person fishing adventure DREADMOOR looks awesome, arrives November 9 | GamingOnLinux
[10:50]	TR News	Red Hat Speaks and Advertises as If It Abandoned Linux to Sell Slop Plagiarism so as to Help IBM Inflate the Stock (Based on Vapourware, False Marketing) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Red_Hat_Speaks_and_Advertises_as_If_It_Abandoned_Linux_to_Sell_.shtml
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat Speaks and Advertises as If It Abandoned Linux to Sell Slop Plagiarism so as to Help IBM Inflate the Stock (Based on Vapourware, False Marketing)
[10:50]	TR News	GE-Proton 11-11 released to fix more issues with Windows games on SteamOS / Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/ge-proton-11-11-released-to-fix-more-issues-with-windows-games-on-steamos-linux/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:50]	TR Bot	11-11 released to fix more issues with Windows games on SteamOS / Linux | GamingOnLinux
[10:51]	TR News	Steam Next Fest Oct 2026 is live with thousands of demos | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/steam-next-fest-oct-2026-is-live-with-thousands-of-demos/ Source: GamingOnLinux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/steam-next-fest-oct-2026-is-live-with-thousands-of-demos/
[10:51]	TR Bot	Next Fest Oct 2026 is live with thousands of demos | GamingOnLinux
[10:51]	TR News	Intel submits code to Proton to improve XeSS to use the fast upscaler XMX | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/intel-submits-code-to-proton-to-improve-xess-to-use-the-fast-upscaler-xmx/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:51]	TR Bot	submits code to Proton to improve XeSS to use the fast upscaler XMX | GamingOnLinux
[10:53]	TR News	Linuxiac is STILL LLM slop. Still verified as slop. Fake site, no person running it.... just crap spat out by LLMs.
[10:53]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Raspberry Pi Guide to Retro Gaming and Latest Dozen From GamingOnLinux https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Games_Raspberry_Pi_Guide_to_Retro_Gaming_and_Latest_Dozen_From_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Games_Raspberry_Pi_Guide_to_Retro_Gaming_and_Latest_Dozen_From_.gmi 
[10:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Raspberry Pi Guide to Retro Gaming and Latest Dozen From GamingOnLinux
[10:53]	TR News	Same in ubuntubuzz
[10:54]	TR News	Porvoo's cycling simulator was a successful pilot project it changed many people's minds | "Borgs cykelsimulator var ett lyckat pilotprojekt fick mnga att ndra sikt | stnyland | Svenska Yle" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://yle.fi/a/7-10107197
[10:54]	TR Bot	 Borgs cykelsimulator var ett lyckat pilotprojekt fick mnga att ndra sikt | stnyland | Svenska Yle
[10:55]	TR News	"Withings introduces Scale-As-A-Service; SaaS hits a new low" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/withings-introduces-scale-as-a-service:8
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Withings introduces Scale-As-A-Service; SaaS hits a new low
[10:55]	TR News	"I'm with SLOPPER Geir's Everything" https://isene.org/2026/10/Linus-On-AI.html self-nuke
[10:55]	TR Bot	 I'm with Linus Geir's Everything
[10:56]	TR News	"CNN Threatens New Legal Action Against Trump Over Media Ban | The New Republic" https://newrepublic.com/post/216842/cnn-threatens-new-legal-action-trump-media-ban
[10:56]	TR Bot	 CNN Threatens New Legal Action Against Trump Over Media Ban | The New Republic
[10:56]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> parsifal: people also need to learn Windows; <schestowitz[TR2]> and android... and ios 
[10:56]	parsifal	There is a huge difference: in the case of Linux, it is a conscious and voluntary act, whereas with the examples you listed, it is a form of forced indoctrination that begins in school and/or university.
[10:56]	parsifal	As for Android, it is solely due to a monopoly position -> once again, it is a form of arm-twisting.
[10:56]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> very common in taiwan; <schestowitz[TR2]> and maybe vietnam
[10:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	but one still has to learn it
[10:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	if the employer
[10:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the state
[10:57]	parsifal	Ive been to both places, but it is characteristic of many other locations in this region as well. its terrible. Noisy, chaotic, stinky, a sea of roaring mopeds that make it impossible to cross the street...
[10:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	or the scholl
[10:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	teaches it
[10:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	then it's still teaching
[10:57]	TR News	"Efter Chat Control kommer Bank Control" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2026/10/20/efter-chat-control-kommer-bank-control/
[10:57]	TR Bot	 Efter Chat Control kommer Bank Control
[10:58]	TR News	Young men encounter misogynistic content after just a few minutes of scrolling | "Unge mnd mder kvindefjendsk indhold efter f minutters scrolling - TV 2" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2026-10-19-unge-maend-moeder-kvindefjendsk-indhold-efter-faa-minutters-scrolling
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Unge mnd mder kvindefjendsk indhold efter f minutters scrolling - TV 2
[10:58]	TR News	"Slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, hndvrk og slop | Version2" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/holdning/slop-slop-slop-slop-slop-slop-haandvaerk-og-slop
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, slop, hndvrk og slop | Version2
[10:59]	TR News	iophk: boo hoo. cry me a river. https://www.democrata.es/en/europe/the-spanish-industry-warns-that-restricting-foreign-cloud-services-may-cut-the-potential-of-european-ai/ https://locusmag.com/feature/commentary-cory-doctorow-what-kind-of-bubble-is-ai/
[10:59]	TR Bot	 The Spanish industry warns that restricting foreign cloud services could cut the potential of European AI. | Demcrata
[10:59]	TR Bot	 Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble is AI? Locus
● Oct 21
[11:00]	TR News	We don't need EUROPEAN Ponzi Scheme. We need NO Ponzi Scheme.
[11:00]	parsifal	Yes, thats true, but there are also unpleasant and dark reasons involved, part of the indoctrination in question.
[11:00]	TR News	Let Americans and Saudis crash their own economies with slop http://techrights.org/n/2026/06/29/Pensions_Tied_to_Ponzi_Schemes_Are_Themselves_Ponzi_Schemes.shtml
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights Pensions Tied to Ponzi Schemes Are Themselves Ponzi Schemes
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: some imitate the familiar   GUIs
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	to get around this isue
[11:02]	TR News	"We do that too." https://puri.sm/posts/the-first-step-toward-digital-independence-why-awesim-matters/ | Source: Purism
[11:02]	TR Bot	 The First Step Toward Digital Independence: Why AweSIM Matters Purism
[11:02]	TR News	"Cincozes DX-1300 is a compact, fanless industrial computer based on Intel Core Ultra 200S processors, supporting up to 96GB of DDR5 memory and modular I/O expansion." https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-core-ultra-industrial-pc-gains-external-emc-protection/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[11:02]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/fanless-core-ultra-industrial-pc-gains-external-emc-protection/ )
[11:03]	TR News	eMudhra CA compromise fixes available https://ubuntu.com//blog/emudhra-ca-compromise-fixes-available | Source: Ubuntu
[11:03]	TR Bot	CA compromise fixes available | Ubuntu
[11:08]	TR News	Creating a file with ed and a here document https://box.matto.nl/creating-a-file-with-ed-and-a-here-document.html
[11:08]	TR Bot	a file with ed and a here document - box.matto.nl
[11:09]	TR News	A Pretty Case for the OrangePi 6 Plus https://boilingsteam.com/a-nice-case-the-orange-pi-6-plus/index.html
[11:09]	TR Bot	 A Pretty Case for the OrangePi 6 Plus
[11:10]	TR News	Five million to one: two Arduino boards, 20 years apart https://blog.arduino.cc/2026/10/20/five-million-to-one-two-arduino-boards-20-years-apart/
[11:10]	TR Bot	 Five million to one: two Arduino boards, 20 years apart | Arduino Blog
[11:13]	TR News	ICANN has an (unofficial) wiki https://www.rubenerd.au/icann-has-an-unofficial-wiki/
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: ICANN has an (unofficial) wiki
[11:13]	TR News	Audacious 4.6.2 Released with MPRIS OpenUri Support https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2026/10/audacious-4-6-2-released-with-mpris-openuri-support/
[11:13]	TR Bot	 Audacious 4.6.2 Released with MPRIS OpenUri Support | UbuntuHandbook
[11:15]	TR News	How were dealing with a data space crunch https://www.rubenerd.au/how-were-dealing-with-a-data-space-crunch/
[11:15]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: How were dealing with a data space crunch
[11:20]	TR News	Pluralistic: The death of history's most successful publisher (20 Oct 2026) https://pluralistic.net/2026/10/20/main-character-syndrome/
[11:20]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: The death of historys most successful publisher (20 Oct 2026) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
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[11:23]	TR News	Cybersecurity awareness must extend beyond passwords and phishing to become truly operational https://federalnewsnetwork.com/commentary/2026/10/cybersecurity-awareness-must-extend-beyond-passwords-and-phishing-to-become-truly-operational/
[11:23]	TR Bot	 Cybersecurity awareness must extend beyond passwords and phishing to become truly operational - Federal News Network
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[11:26]	TR News	Rolling the root key: What happened? https://blog.apnic.net/2026/10/21/rolling-the-root-key-what-happened/
[11:26]	TR Bot	 Rolling the root key: What happened? | APNIC Blog
[11:29]	TR News	U.S. Army developing program that would deploy Hey Hi (AI) agents to autonomously seek and destroy targets in enemy digital infrastructures https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/us-army-reportedly-developing-program-that-would-deploy-ai-agents-to-autonomously-seek-and-destroy-targets-in-enemy-digital-infrastructures-experts-warn-echotribble-program-could-have-disastrous-consequences
[11:29]	TR Bot	 US Army reportedly developing program that would deploy AI agents to autonomously seek and destroy targets in enemy digital infrastructures experts warn ECHOTRIBBLE program could have disastrous consequences | Tom's Hardware
[11:29]	TR News	Microplastics Aren't Inert After All: In Water, They Make DNA-Damaging Free Radicals https://www.sciencealert.com/microplastics-are-chemically-active-and-could-cause-biological-harm
[11:29]	TR Bot	Aren't Inert After All: In Water, They Make DNA-Damaging Free Radicals : ScienceAlert
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[11:33]	TR News	AOSC OS general-purpose GNU/Linux distribution https://www.linuxlinks.com/aosc-os-general-purpose-linux-distribution/
[11:33]	TR Bot	OS - general-purpose Linux distribution - LinuxLinks
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[11:34]	TR News	HPE HEY HI SPAM!!! The Register MS again FAILED to add disclosure it gets PAID to do this SPAM. https://www.theregister.com/science/2026/10/20/hpe-to-launch-ai-straight-to-the-moon/5303983
[11:35]	TR Bot	 HPE to launch AI straight to the Moon
[11:44]	TR News	Techrights Disclosure/s Crisis at The Register MS (Promoting a Ponzi Scheme for Money) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Disclosure_s_Crisis_at_The_Register_MS_Promoting_a_Ponzi_Scheme.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Disclosure_s_Crisis_at_The_Register_MS_Promoting_a_Ponzi_Scheme.gmi 
[11:44]	TR Bot	 Techrights Disclosure/s Crisis at The Register MS (Promoting a Ponzi Scheme for Money)
[11:45]	TR News	SLES 15.6 repositories are being retired https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/sles-156-repositories-are-being-retired-3415/
[11:45]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: SLES 15.6 repositories are being retired
[11:45]	TR News	RHEL 10.0 and 9.6 repositories are being retired https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/rhel-100-and-96-repositories-are-being-retired-3411/
[11:45]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: RHEL 10.0 and 9.6 repositories are being retired
[11:46]	TR News	Security updates for Tuesday https://lwn.net/Articles/1101617/
[11:46]	TR Bot	updates for Tuesday [LWN.net]
[11:47]	parsifal	Bricklayer, 49, travels 1,200 miles for dream girl only to discover shes AI-generated -> https://nypost.com/2026/10/17/world-news/brazilian-bricklayers-dream-girl-turns-out-to-be-ai-generated/
[11:47]	TR Bot	 Brazilian bricklayers dream girl turns out to be AI-generated
[11:47]	parsifal	^No comment -> there is nothing to comment on...
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	Bricklayer
[11:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	bricks for brainz
[11:59]	TR News	Coral reef health at Malaysias Tioman, Redang islands worsening due to rising sea temperatures https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coral-reef-health-at-malaysias-tioman-redang-islands-worsening-due-to-rising-sea-temperatures
[11:59]	TR Bot	 Malaysia coral reefs worsen as seas hit 35 deg C | The Straits Times
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[12:20]	TR News	Journalism job cuts in 2026 tracked: Latest from BBC, Metro, Guardian, Future, Reach https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/journalism-job-cuts-in-2026-updates/
[12:20]	TR Bot	 Journalism job cuts in 2026 tracked: Rolling updates - Press Gazette
[12:21]	TR News	Reuters, Reach, Independent and Metropolis give us ALL a headsup: their sites are quietly becoming LLM slop, should therefore be skipped, avoided, not trusted https://pressgazette.co.uk/press-gazette-events/ai-in-the-newsroom/
[12:21]	TR Bot	 AI in the newsroom at Reuters, Reach, Independent and Metropolis
[12:21]	TR News	Tommy Robinson told Daily Mail editor expect me to come knocking in voicemail, court hears https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/tommy-robinson-told-daily-mail-editor-ill-make-you-famous-in-voicemail-court-hears/
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Tommy Robinson told Daily Mail editor 'expect me to come knocking' in voicemail, court hears - Press Gazette
[12:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  Debian-Based siduction 2026.1 Big Crime Released with Linux 7.2, KDE Plasma 6.7 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Debian_Based_siduction_2026_1_Big_Crime_Released_with_Linux_7_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Debian_Based_siduction_2026_1_Big_Crime_Released_with_Linux_7_2.gmi 
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian-Based siduction 2026.1 Big Crime Released with Linux 7.2, KDE Plasma 6.7
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[12:29]	TR News	Techrights Reuters is Becoming Slop, Not a News Agency (Treat Reports From Reuters Sceptically) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Reuters_is_Becoming_Slop_Not_a_News_Agency_Treat_Reports_From_R.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Reuters_is_Becoming_Slop_Not_a_News_Agency_Treat_Reports_From_R.gmi 
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Reuters is Becoming Slop, Not a News Agency (Treat Reports From Reuters Sceptically)
[12:31]	TR News	If your headline is LLM slop, or if the text of the article is spewed by LLMs instead of humans, then it is not reporting
[12:32]	TR News	And it is fundamentally suicidal to one's reputation, credibility
[12:33]	TR News	Water May Be a Hidden Trigger Behind The Spread of Alzheimer's in The Brain https://www.sciencealert.com/water-may-be-a-hidden-trigger-behind-the-spread-of-alzheimers-in-the-brain
[12:33]	TR Bot	May Be a Hidden Trigger Behind The Spread of Alzheimer's in The Brain : ScienceAlert
[12:33]	TR News	Mozilla Security Blog: Protecting Firefox users following the compromise of eMudhra intermediate certificates https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2026/10/20/protecting-firefox-users-following-the-compromise-of-emudhra-intermediate-certificates/
[12:33]	TR Bot	 Protecting Firefox users following the compromise of eMudhra intermediate certificates - Mozilla Security Blog
[12:34]	TR News	Jonathan Blandford: Crosswords 0.3.19 New Layout and Acrostic Editor https://blogs.gnome.org/jrb/2026/10/20/crosswords-0-3-19-new-layout-and-acrostic-editor/
[12:34]	TR Bot	 Crosswords 0.3.19 New Layout and Acrostic Editor Jonathan Blandford
[12:35]	TR News	Deliberately forgotten: internet shutdowns with no end https://www.accessnow.org/indefinite-internet-shutdowns/
[12:35]	TR Bot	( status 503 @ https://www.accessnow.org/indefinite-internet-shutdowns/ )
[12:35]	TR News	Cixin
[12:35]	TR News	Russell Coker: Cixin Liu is a Bad Person https://etbe.coker.com.au/2026/10/20/cixin-liu-bad-person/
[12:35]	TR Bot	( status 503 @ https://etbe.coker.com.au/2026/10/20/cixin-liu-bad-person/ )
[12:52]	TR News	Micron union in Taiwan to launch one-day strike as bonus dispute escalates https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/micron-union-in-taiwan-to-launch-strike-as-bonus-dispute-escalates
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Micron union in Taiwan to launch one-day strike as bonus dispute escalates | The Straits Times
[12:54]	TR News	OpenSSF front group promoting slop https://openssf.org/blog/2026/10/20/new-openssf-guide-finding-and-fixing-vulnerabilities-using-ai/ http://techrights.org/o/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[12:54]	TR Bot	 New OpenSSF Guide: Finding and Fixing Vulnerabilities Using AI Open Source Security Foundation
[12:54]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It's About Back Doors -- Not Real Security -- Inside the Linux Foundation
[12:54]	TR News	Still intentionally ignoring all the cocaine, scandals and strikes at the EPO. https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/epo-revokes-divx-streaming-patent-after-upc-munich-upholds-it-in-parallel-case-against-netflix/
[12:54]	TR Bot	 EPO revokes DivX streaming patent after UPC Munich upholds it in parallel case against Netflix
[12:55]	TR News	These are software patents, which should never have been granted, and UPC is illegal
[12:56]	TR News	This serves to show that UPC is just an instrument of the software patenting cartel.
[12:56]	TR News	Google Reports Cloud Disruptions in Europe https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/20/technology/google-cloud-down-outage-europe.html
[12:56]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/20/technology/google-cloud-down-outage-europe.html )
[12:57]	TR News	Linux Plumbers Conference: LPC 2026 Kernel Testing MC https://lpc.events/blog/current/index.php/2026/10/20/lpc-2026-kernel-testing-mc/
[12:57]	TR Bot	 LPC 2026 Kernel Testing MC Linux Plumbers Conference
[12:58]	TR News	Solder-down COM brings i.MX95 to GNU/Linux dev kit https://linuxgizmos.com/solder-down-com-brings-i-mx95-to-linux-dev-kit-2/
[12:58]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solder-down-com-brings-i-mx95-to-linux-dev-kit-2/ )
[12:58]	TR News	PS5Linuxhacknowsupports (some)newerfirmwareversions https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2026/10/ps5-linux-hack-newer-firmware
[12:58]	TR Bot	 PS5Linuxhacknowsupports (some)newerfirmwareversions - OMG! Ubuntu
[12:59]	TR News	OmegaLinux 2026.10.20 https://distrowatch.com/omegalinux
[12:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/omegalinux )
[12:59]	TR News	Kiro 26.10.20 https://distrowatch.com/kiro
[12:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/kiro )
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[13:03]	TR News	HAOS 18.4-rc1 https://distrowatch.com/haos
[13:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/haos )
[13:03]	TR News	CatOS 2026.10.09 https://distrowatch.com/catos
[13:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/catos )
[13:03]	TR News	Omarchy 4.5.0-rc1 https://distrowatch.com/omarchy
[13:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/omarchy )
[13:03]	TR News	BlueOnyx 5212r-20261019 https://distrowatch.com/blueonyx
[13:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/blueonyx )
[13:04]	TR News	Build your own physical interface with the new Arduino UNO Q SBC Controller Bundle https://blog.arduino.cc/2026/10/20/build-your-own-physical-interface-with-the-new-arduino-uno-q-sbc-controller-bundle/
[13:04]	TR Bot	 Build your own physical interface with the new Arduino UNO Q SBC Controller Bundle | Arduino Blog
[13:04]	TR News	GNU Taler news: Taler Operations AG is getting ready to operate Taler in Germany https://taler.net/en/news/2026-13.html
[13:04]	TR Bot	 GNU Taler
[13:11]	TR News	WTH happened to Qt? What next? Fake-coins? https://www.qt.io/blog/updated-qt-code-review-skills-reduce-token-costs-by-up-to-75
[13:11]	TR Bot	 Updated Qt Code Review Skills Reduce Token Costs by Up To 75%
[13:11]	TR News	Beyond the Seat at the Table: Raneems Journey from Policy to Action https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2026/10/beyond-the-seat-at-the-table-raneems-journey-from-policy-to-action/
[13:11]	TR Bot	 Beyond the Seat at the Table: Raneem's Journey from Policy to Action - Internet Society
[13:14]	psydruid	> [notice] www.qt.io | Updated Qt Code Review Skills Reduce Token Costs by Up To 75%
[13:14]	psydruid	Time to create a compatible replacement and let the Qt Company go under
[13:15]	TR News	Intel asks FCC for waiver to buy foreign robots https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/intel-asks-fcc-for-waiver-to-buy-foreign-robots-chipmakers-automated-guided-vehicles-could-run-afoul-of-agencys-sweeping-robot-ban
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Intel asks FCC for waiver to buy foreign robots chipmakers automated guided vehicles could run afoul of agencys sweeping robot ban | Tom's Hardware
[13:18]	TR News	Recipe Scammers Are Using an AI-Generated Emily Blunt as a Slop Puppet to Promote Their Garbage https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/recipe-scammers-ai-generated-emily-blunt
[13:18]	TR Bot	 Recipe Scammers Are Using an AI-Generated Emily Blunt as a Slop Puppet to Promote Their Garbage
[13:19]	TR News	SoundExchanges Lawsuit Against Sonos Gets Put on Ice As Appeal Against SiriusXM Lingers On https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/soundexchange-sonos-lawsuit-update/
[13:19]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/soundexchange-sonos-lawsuit-update/ )
[13:20]	TR News	html
[13:20]	TR News	Art Basel Paris Preview Draws Interest Despite Protests https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/20/arts/art-basel-paris-france-protests.html
[13:20]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/20/arts/art-basel-paris-france-protests.html )
[13:21]	TR News	Chinas push for contributions to bolster social insurance schemes draws online backlash https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinas-push-to-bolster-social-insurance-schemes-draws-online-backlash
[13:21]	TR Bot	 Chinas push for contributions to bolster social insurance schemes draws online backlash | The Straits Times
[13:22]	TR News	Federal Judge Orders Meta to Identify the Employees Who Authorized Shadow Library Piracy Including Everyone in the Group Who Participated in Making That Decision https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/meta-ai-lawsuit-shadow-library-discovery/
[13:22]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/meta-ai-lawsuit-shadow-library-discovery/ )
[13:25]	TR News	How French police are harnessing social control media to identify looters https://www.france24.com/en/france/20261020-how-french-police-are-harnessing-social-media-to-identify-looters
[13:25]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/france/20261020-how-french-police-are-harnessing-social-media-to-identify-looters )
[13:28]	TR News	Critical PHP security update coming https://lwn.net/Articles/1101687/
[13:28]	TR Bot	PHP security update coming [LWN.net]
[13:28]	TR News	Dihydroxyacetone Mans Department of Homeland Security Secretly Ordered Cybersecurity Operatives to Acquire a Voting Machine and Hack It https://futurism.com/future-society/trump-homeland-security-voting-machine-hacking
[13:29]	TR Bot	 Trump's Department of Homeland Security Secretly Ordered Cybersecurity Operatives to Acquire a Voting Machine and Hack It
[13:29]	TR News	970,000 Medi-Cal Members Affected by Paradigm Healthcare Data Breach https://www.securityweek.com/970000-medi-cal-members-affected-by-paradigm-healthcare-data-breach/
[13:29]	TR Bot	Medi-Cal Members Affected by Paradigm Healthcare Data Breach - SecurityWeek
[13:29]	TR News	Hackers Steal 1.8 Million Records From Nikkei https://www.securityweek.com/hackers-steal-1-8-million-records-from-nikkei/
[13:29]	TR Bot	Steal 1.8 Million Records From Nikkei - SecurityWeek
[13:30]	TR News	Ahold Delhaize Restoring Services Disrupted by Cyberattack https://www.securityweek.com/ahold-delhaize-restoring-services-disrupted-by-cyberattack/
[13:30]	TR Bot	Delhaize Restoring Services Disrupted by Cyberattack - SecurityWeek
[13:36]	TR News	KDE Plasma 6.8.1, Bugfix Release for October https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/6/6.8.1/
[13:36]	TR Bot	 KDE Plasma 6.8.1, Bugfix Release for October - KDE Community
[13:37]	TR News	Dihydroxyacetone Man Calls Reporter Andrew Feinberg a 'Sick Person' as JD Vance Brands Him an 'Imbecile' https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-feinberg-oval-office-whistleblower-rewards-clash-1826846
[13:37]	TR Bot	 Trump Calls Reporter Andrew Feinberg a 'Sick Person' as JD Vance Brands Him an 'Imbecile' | IBTimes UK
[13:39]	TR News	revolt against data centres https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-debate/20261020-ai-on-the-ballot-voters-in-us-midterms-revolt-against-data-centres
[13:39]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/the-debate/20261020-ai-on-the-ballot-voters-in-us-midterms-revolt-against-data-centres )
[13:42]	TR News	ConnectWise customers hit by supply-chain attack linked to compromised API secret https://cyberscoop.com/connectwise-cloud-backup-supply-chain-attack/
[13:42]	TR Bot	customers hit by supply-chain attack linked to compromised API secret | CyberScoop
[13:43]	TR News	Immortal Beloved: Krishna and Rdh Exchanging Clothes (ca. 17001900) https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/krishna-and-radha-exchanging-clothes
[13:43]	TR Bot	 Immortal Beloved: Krishna and Rdh Exchanging Clothes (ca. 17001900) The Public Domain Review
[13:43]	TR News	NixOS Is Making Me Less Afraid https://entropicthoughts.com/nixos-is-making-me-less-afraid
[13:43]	TR Bot	 NixOS is making me less afraid
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[13:45]	TR News	Possible new Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/10/possible-new-cellebrite-iphone-radio-zero-day.html
[13:45]	TR Bot	new Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day - Schneier on Security
[13:45]	TR News	Your Selfie Could Soon Sit in Your Medical Record as Hey Hi (AI) Learns to Predict Cancer Survival https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ai-tool-predicts-cancer-survival-face-photo-1826829
[13:45]	TR Bot	 Your Selfie Could Soon Sit in Your Medical Record as AI Learns to Predict Cancer Survival | IBTimes UK
[13:45]	TR News	WordPress 7.2 Beta 1 is Ready for Download and Testing https://wordpress.org/news/2026/10/wordpress-7-2-beta-1-is-ready-for-download-and-testing/
[13:45]	TR Bot	 WordPress 7.2 Beta 1 is Ready for Download and Testing WordPress News
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[13:48]	TR News	Budapest Audio Expo 2026 https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/budapest-audio-expo-2026/
[13:48]	TR Bot	 Budapest Audio Expo 2026 | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
[13:49]	TR News	The Serial Strangler is now attempting "trial by phone calls" (behind the back of the other side). When you strangle women and tell them to kill themselves you'd not obey laws anywhere, would you?
[13:50]	TR News	Steinar H. Gunderson: Decompilation patterns, part 17: Loop rotation http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2026-10-20-23-33_decompilation_patterns_part_17_loop_rotation.html
[13:50]	TR Bot	 Steinar H. Gunderson
[13:50]	TR News	PTAB Affirmance by Rejection Type, 20092026 https://patentlyo.com/patent/2026/10/ptab-affirmance-by-rejection-type-2009-2026.html
[13:50]	TR Bot	 PTAB Affirmance by Rejection Type, 20092026 | Patently-O
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[13:51]	TR News	Letter Submission to the Advisory Committee on Civil Rules https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2026/10/6/letter-submission-to-the-advisory-committee-on-civil-rules
[13:51]	TR Bot	 Letter Submission to the Advisory Committee on Civil Rules Unified Patents
[13:52]	TR News	Quantefi Wi-Fi patents being investigated https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2026/10/19/quantefi-wi-fi-patents-being-investigated
[13:52]	TR Bot	 Quantefi Wi-Fi patents being investigated Unified Patents
[13:52]	TR News	$2,000 for Multimedia Technologies smart TV patent monopoly prior art https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2026/10/20/2000-for-multimedia-technologies-smart-tv-patent-prior-art
[13:52]	TR Bot	 $2,000 for Multimedia Technologies smart TV patent prior art Unified Patents
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[13:55]	TR News	The slop is proprietary, so this is It's FOSS: 1) shilling non-free plagiarism; ) boosting Microsoft https://itsfoss.com/news/microsoft-scope-self-hosted-agent-testing/ Boo.
[13:55]	TR Bot	 Microsofts AI Coding Agent Testing Tool is Open Source
[13:55]	TR News	FOSSASIA PGDay 2027: Bangkok, 9 March CFP Open https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/fossasia-pgday-2027-bangkok-9-march-cfp-open-3398/
[13:55]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: FOSSASIA PGDay 2027: Bangkok, 9 March CFP Open
[13:56]	TR News	IBM-sponsored SPAM about SLOP https://siliconangle.com/2026/10/20/ibm-backed-llm-d-framework-adds-controls-for-running-ai-models-in-house/ this site is a hub which promotes white-collar crimes, many are aware of it but keep paying it to do this
[13:56]	TR Bot	llm-d framework adds controls for running AI models in-house - SiliconANGLE
[13:57]	TR News	OpenBSD 8.0 released https://lwn.net/Articles/1101536/
[13:57]	TR Bot	8.0 released [LWN.net]
[13:58]	TR News	eMudhra intermediate CA compromise https://lwn.net/Articles/1101643/
[13:58]	TR Bot	intermediate CA compromise [LWN.net]
● Oct 21
[14:00]	TR News	Backing up my gitea via mirroring https://dan.langille.org/2026/10/20/backing-up-my-gitea-via-mirroring/
[14:00]	TR Bot	 Backing up my gitea via mirroring Dan Langille's Other Diary
[14:00]	TR News	 (NEW):  Inherent Problem in the Fake (by Design) "Trust" Model of So-called 'Authorities' (Whose?) https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Inherent_Problem_in_the_Fake_by_Design_Trust_Model_of_So_called.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Inherent_Problem_in_the_Fake_by_Design_Trust_Model_of_So_called.gmi 
[14:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Inherent Problem in the Fake (by Design) "Trust" Model of So-called 'Authorities' (Whose?)
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[14:01]	TR News	Prepare your custom plug-ins for Red Bait Developer Hub 2.1 https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/prepare-your-custom-plug-ins-red-hat-developer-hub-21
[14:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/prepare-your-custom-plug-ins-red-hat-developer-hub-21 )
[14:02]	TR News	Gaslight people by tossing slop trash at them and pretending they're catered for https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/speeding-up-ticket-resolution-with-agentic-ai
[14:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/speeding-up-ticket-resolution-with-agentic-ai )
[14:03]	TR News	Red Hat is too busy cheering for slop while laying off thousands of its workers. This won't end well. https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/jev-bounded-semantic-judgments-messy-text
[14:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/10/20/jev-bounded-semantic-judgments-messy-text )
[14:03]	TR News	Give Nautilus file manager the Computer view it lacks https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2026/10/nautilus-my-computer-view
[14:03]	TR Bot	 Give Nautilus file manager the 'Computer' view it lacks - OMG! Ubuntu
[14:04]	TR News	Firefox 158.0.1 is out with important security fixes https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2026/10/firefox-fixes-emudhra-secuity-issue
[14:04]	TR Bot	 Firefox 158.0.1 is out with important security fixes - OMG! Ubuntu
[14:07]	TR News	Linux Mint 27 Set for a Christmas Release http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-27-Set-for-a-Christmas-Release
[14:07]	TR Bot	 Linux Mint 27 Set for a Christmas Release Linux Magazine
[14:08]	TR News	Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo: Restricting device memory usage on Linux 7.3 https://cascardo.eti.br/blog/dmem_cgroup_7.3/
[14:08]	TR Bot	 Restricting device memory usage on Linux 7.3
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[14:11]	TR News	How To Install qBitTorrent on Ubuntu 26.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-qbittorrent-ubuntu-26-04/
[14:11]	TR Bot	 How To Install qBitTorrent on Ubuntu 26.04 LTS - idroot
[14:12]	TR News	MAIA Universe Secures Major Label Partnerships and a Strategic Investment from Bjorn Ulvaeus https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/maia-universe-major-label-deals/
[14:12]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/maia-universe-major-label-deals/ )
[14:13]	TR News	Today in Social Media Infringement Cases: LG and Kroger Sued for Allegedly Using Viral Track Cheese Tax in Fentanylware (CheeTok) Videos https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/cheese-tax-lawsuit-kroger-lg/
[14:13]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/10/20/cheese-tax-lawsuit-kroger-lg/ )
[14:16]	TR News	MElon throttled Starlink in embattled Ukraine https://siliconangle.com/2026/10/20/elon-musk-throttled-starlink-in-embattled-ukraine/
[14:16]	TR Bot	Musk throttled Starlink in embattled Ukraine - SiliconANGLE
[14:17]	TR News	NebiOS 10.3-rc2 https://distrowatch.com/nebios
[14:17]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/nebios )
[14:19]	TR News	Megaphone of GAFAM and LF, now pusher of slop plagiarism https://openssf.org/podcast/2026/10/20/whats-in-the-soss-podcast-76-s3e28-invisible-infrastructure-autonomous-agents-and-10-years-of-cloud-native-with-cncfs-chris-aniszczyk/
[14:19]	TR Bot	 CNCF's Chris Aniszczyk on 10 Years of Cloud Native & AI Infrastructure | What's in the SOSS? Podcast
[14:19]	TR News	Established to promote fake security with Microsoft in charge, now it's a "hype mill" for a pyramid scheme.
[14:22]	TR News	Xbox reportedly planning three more rounds of layoffs, with the first wave coming as early as this month https://www.eurogamer.net/xbox-layoffs-october-november-january-report http://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/More_Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Weeks_From_Now_Then_Again_Months.shtml
[14:22]	TR Bot	reportedly planning three more rounds of layoffs, with the first wave coming as early as this month | Eurogamer.net
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights More Mass Layoffs at Microsoft Weeks From Now, Then Again Months From Now
[14:22]	TR News	Any sane person with a head screwed onto the shoulders can see that XBox is heading towards shutdown
[14:32]	TR News	Its Easy to See Why People Love Linux Mint https://medium.com/@michaelswengel/its-easy-to-see-why-people-love-linux-mint-e5d3c26ba957
[14:32]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://medium.com/@michaelswengel/its-easy-to-see-why-people-love-linux-mint-e5d3c26ba957 )
[14:38]	TR News	Microsoft won't like this open source project to get Game Pass working on SteamOS and Linux, but I think it's pretty neat https://www.pcgamer.com/software/microsoft-wont-like-this-open-source-project-to-get-game-pass-working-on-steamos-and-linux-but-i-think-its-pretty-neat/
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Microsoft won't like this open source project to get Game Pass working on SteamOS and Linux, but I think it's pretty neat | PC Gamer
[14:38]	TR News	Xodus Nexus Project Opens Access to PC Catalog Game Pass on devices running Linux and SteamOS operating systems https://en.gamegpu.com/news/igry/proekt-xodus-nexus-otkryvaet-dostup-k-katalogu-pc-game-pass-na-ustrojstvakh-operatsionnykh-sistem-linux-i-steamos
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Xodus Nexus Project Opens Access to PC Catalog Game Pass on devices running Linux and SteamOS operating systems
[14:39]	TR News	Linux beats Windows at these 3 things, and Microsoft still has no answer https://www.howtogeek.com/linux-beats-windows-at-these-things/
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Linux beats Windows at these 3 things, and Microsoft still has no answer
[14:40]	TR News	Helldivers 2 has moved to Easy Anti-Cheat, and the devs say Linux and Steam Deck compatibility remains safe https://www.pcguide.com/news/helldivers-2-has-moved-to-easy-anti-cheat-and-the-devs-say-linux-and-steam-deck-compatibility-remains-safe/
[14:40]	TR Bot	 Helldivers 2 has moved to Easy Anti-Cheat, and the devs say Linux and Steam Deck compatibility remains safe - PC Guide
[14:40]	TR News	Intel XeSS Could Soon Deliver Better Performance On Linux As Intel Works To Enable XMX Acceleration Through Valves Proton https://wccftech.com/intel-xess-could-soon-deliver-better-performance-on-linux-as-intel-works-to-enable-xmx-acceleration-through-valves-proton/
[14:40]	TR Bot	 Intel XeSS Could Soon Deliver Better Performance On Linux As Intel Works To Enable XMX Acceleration Through Valve's Proton
[14:43]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free is good https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_is_good.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_is_good.gmi 
[14:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free is good
[14:43]	TR News	I asked How-To Geek's writers which Linux distros convinced them to quit Windows, and I was surprised by some of the answers https://www.howtogeek.com/i-asked-how-to-geeks-writers-which-linux-distros-convinced-them-to-quit-windows-and-i-was-surprised-by-some-of-the-answers/
[14:43]	TR Bot	 I asked How-To Geek's writers which Linux distros convinced them to quit Windows, and I was surprised by some of the answers
[14:45]	TR News	"LF Research" is marketing propaganda. IBM pays to misuse the brand to promote slop. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-lf-research-survey-shows-generative-ai-cuts-open-source-coding-time-in-half-but-25-of-incoming-pull-requests-are-considered-ai-slop-302913843.html http://techrights.org/n/2025/06/27/What_Linux_Foundation_Research_is_Paid_Marketing.shtml
[14:45]	TR Bot	 New LF Research Survey Shows Generative AI Cuts Open Source Coding Time in Half, but 25% of Incoming Pull Requests are Considered AI Slop
[14:45]	TR Bot	 Techrights What Linux Foundation 'Research' is: Paid Marketing
[14:45]	TR News	Here's some interesting Native Linux demos in Steam Next Fest Oct 26 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/some-interesting-native-linux-demos-in-steam-next-fest-oct-26/
[14:45]	TR Bot	some interesting Native Linux demos in Steam Next Fest Oct 26 | GamingOnLinux
[14:46]	TR News	More slop from Jack https://www.zdnet.com/tech/free-adobe-premiere-clone-alternative-filmcraft-linux/ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/15/Jack_Wallen_is_Promoting_Slop_ware_LLM_Slop_Plagiarism_Other_Tr.shtml
[14:46]	TR Bot	tried the free Adobe Premiere clone on Linux - and DaVinci Resolve has competition - ZDNET
[14:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Jack Wallen is Promoting Slop-ware (LLM Slop / Plagiarism), Others Try to Normalise the Practice (Even on Linux)
[14:46]	TR News	I'd pick a 10-year-old desktop running Linux over a new $300 Windows laptop every time https://www.xda-developers.com/id-pick-a-10-year-old-desktop-running-linux-over-a-new-300-windows-laptop-every-time/
[14:46]	TR Bot	 I'd pick a 10-year-old desktop running Linux over a new $300 Windows laptop every time
[14:47]	TR News	More slop from Jack https://www.zdnet.com/tech/deckcraft-powerpoint-clone-presentation-app-linux-hands-on/ https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/11/Slop_ware_Is_Not_Newsworthy.shtml
[14:47]	TR Bot	tried the free PowerPoint clone on Linux - and it beats LibreOffice and Google Slides - ZDNET
[14:47]	TR Bot	 Techrights Slop-ware Is Not Newsworthy
[14:49]	TR News	Xodus Nexus Successfully Brings Game Pass Games to Linux https://www.digitalfoundry.net/news/2026/10/xodus-nexus-successfully-brings-game-pass-games-to-linux
[14:49]	TR Bot	 Xodus Nexus Successfully Brings Game Pass Games to Linux | Digital Foundry
[14:49]	TR News	A free SDR receiver for macOS, Windows and Linux https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/10/19/a-free-sdr-receiver-for-macos-windows-and-linux/
[14:49]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/10/19/a-free-sdr-receiver-for-macos-windows-and-linux/ )
[14:50]	TR News	Xodus Nexus Launcher Brings Xbox Game Pass to SteamOS and Linux with Easy Management and Installs https://www.techpowerup.com/353885/xodus-nexus-launcher-brings-xbox-game-pass-to-steamos-and-linux-with-easy-management-and-installs
[14:50]	TR Bot	Nexus Launcher Brings Xbox Game Pass to SteamOS and Linux with Easy Management and Installs | TechPowerUp
[14:50]	TR News	"The development team behind MocaccinoOS, a Gentoo-based, independent distribution for desktops, released MocaccinoOS 26.10 today as the latest stable ISO snapshot with updated components." https://9to5linux.com/gentoo-based-mocaccinoos-26-10-released-with-cosmic-1-10-and-kde-plasma-6-7-5
[14:50]	TR Bot	MocaccinoOS 26.10 Released with COSMIC 1.10 and KDE Plasma 6.7.5 - 9to5Linux
[14:51]	TR News	Red Hat Enterprise Linux is Now Directly Available on OCI blogs.oracle.com/cloud-infrastructure/red-hat-enterprise-linux-on-oci
[14:51]	TR News	3 overlooked Linux desktops that are just as good as GNOME, KDE, and Cinnamon https://www.howtogeek.com/overlooked-linux-desktops-as-good-as-gnome-kde-and-cinnamon/
[14:51]	TR Bot	 3 overlooked Linux desktops that are just as good as GNOME, KDE, and Cinnamon
[14:52]	TR News	Your Linux habits might be slowly breaking your system https://www.howtogeek.com/your-linux-habits-might-be-slowly-breaking-your-system/
[14:52]	TR Bot	 Your Linux habits might be slowly breaking your system
[14:53]	TR News	Hackers Exploit Plex2Shell Flaws to Install Crypto Miners and Linux Proxy Backdoor https://thehackernews.com/2026/10/hackers-exploit-plex2shell-flaws-to.html
[14:53]	TR Bot	 Hackers Exploit Plex2Shell Flaws to Install Crypto Miners and Linux Proxy Backdoor
[14:55]	TR News	 (NEW):  Jack Wallen is Promoting Slop-ware (LLM Slop / Plagiarism), Others Try to Normalise the Practice (Even on Linux) https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/15/Jack_Wallen_is_Promoting_Slop_ware_LLM_Slop_Plagiarism_Other_Tr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/15/Jack_Wallen_is_Promoting_Slop_ware_LLM_Slop_Plagiarism_Other_Tr.gmi 
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Jack Wallen is Promoting Slop-ware (LLM Slop / Plagiarism), Others Try to Normalise the Practice (Even on Linux)
[14:56]	TR News	Steam on Linux is going 64-bit as Valve leans harder on the platform https://www.techspot.com/news/114260-steam-linux-going-64-bit-valve-leans-harder.html
[14:56]	TR Bot	on Linux is going 64-bit as Valve leans harder on the platform | TechSpot
[14:58]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Steam, PS5, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Games_Steam_PS5_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Games_Steam_PS5_and_More.gmi 
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Steam, PS5, and More
[14:58]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
● Oct 21
[15:00]	TR News	 (NEW):  Hardware Projects/Boards: Arduino, Purism, More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Hardware_Projects_Boards_Arduino_Purism_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Hardware_Projects_Boards_Arduino_Purism_More.gmi 
[15:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Hardware Projects/Boards: Arduino, Purism, More
[15:02]	TR News	 (NEW):  PostgreSQL: FOSSASIA PGDay 2027 and Deprecations (Old Distros) https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/PostgreSQL_FOSSASIA_PGDay_2027_and_Deprecations_Old_Distros.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/PostgreSQL_FOSSASIA_PGDay_2027_and_Deprecations_Old_Distros.gmi 
[15:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PostgreSQL: FOSSASIA PGDay 2027 and Deprecations (Old Distros)
[15:02]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[15:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[15:03]	TR News	 (NEW):  Web Browsers, Framworks, Standards, and Feed Readers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Web_Browsers_Framworks_Standards_and_Feed_Readers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Web_Browsers_Framworks_Standards_and_Feed_Readers.gmi 
[15:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Web Browsers, Framworks, Standards, and Feed Readers
[15:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[15:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
[15:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNOME: Crosswords 0.3.19 and Nautilus Tips https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/GNOME_Crosswords_0_3_19_and_Nautilus_Tips.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/GNOME_Crosswords_0_3_19_and_Nautilus_Tips.gmi 
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNOME: Crosswords 0.3.19 and Nautilus Tips
[15:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  Red Hat Promoting Plagiarism, GPL Violations, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Red_Hat_Promoting_Plagiarism_GPL_Violations_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Red_Hat_Promoting_Plagiarism_GPL_Violations_and_More.gmi 
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat Promoting Plagiarism, GPL Violations, and More
[15:08]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[15:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[15:08]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[15:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[15:11]	TR News	Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "Zelensky Took the Gloves Off This Time With Convicted Felon" and &quot;Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day&quot; https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_Zelensky_Took_the_Gloves_Off_This_Time_With_Co.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_Zelensky_Took_the_Gloves_Off_This_Time_With_Co.gmi 
[15:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "Zelensky Took the Gloves Off This Time With Convicted Felon" and "Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day"
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[16:35]	parsifal	Assisted-by... bye-bye, baby, bye-bye... -> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=14c897740388216acd59477a382de327d5e27ba4
[16:35]	TR Bot	 Making sure you're not a bot!
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights 'Cocaine King' Campinos Doesn't Have Sufficient Votes to Carry On Unchallenged, But He Has 2 More Months to Bribe Voters With 'Cooperation Money' https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Cocaine_King_Campinos_Doesn_t_Have_Sufficient_Votes_to_Carry_On.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Cocaine_King_Campinos_Doesn_t_Have_Sufficient_Votes_to_Carry_On.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights 'Cocaine King' Campinos Doesn't Have Sufficient Votes to Carry On Unchallenged, But He Has 2 More Months to Bribe Voters With 'Cooperation Money'
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Corrupt Media Benefits Corrupt Officials (the Case of IBM) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Corrupt_Media_Benefits_Corrupt_Officials_the_Case_of_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Corrupt_Media_Benefits_Corrupt_Officials_the_Case_of_IBM.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Corrupt Media Benefits Corrupt Officials (the Case of IBM)
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights EPO Strikes Will Carry on Until End of This Year (as We Predicted), Will Likely Continue Next Year/s https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/EPO_Strikes_Will_Carry_on_Until_End_of_This_Year_as_We_Predicte.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/EPO_Strikes_Will_Carry_on_Until_End_of_This_Year_as_We_Predicte.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights EPO Strikes Will Carry on Until End of This Year (as We Predicted), Will Likely Continue Next Year/s
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 19/10/2026: ICEYE/SAR, Smol Servers, and Starting an Open Access Journal https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Gemini_Links_19_10_2026_ICEYE_SAR_Smol_Servers_and_Starting_an_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Gemini_Links_19_10_2026_ICEYE_SAR_Smol_Servers_and_Starting_an_.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 19/10/2026: ICEYE/SAR, Smol Servers, and Starting an Open Access Journal
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 19/10/2026: Orchids, Reducing GAFAM Reliance, and Deploying on OpenBSD https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Gemini_Links_19_10_2026_Orchids_Reducing_GAFAM_Reliance_and_Dep.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Gemini_Links_19_10_2026_Orchids_Reducing_GAFAM_Reliance_and_Dep.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 19/10/2026: Orchids, Reducing GAFAM Reliance, and Deploying on OpenBSD
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights IBM CEO Boasts to the Media About "AI" Momentum While Sacking His Workers Who Worked On It https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/IBM_CEO_Boasts_to_the_Media_About_AI_Momentum_While_Sacking_His.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/IBM_CEO_Boasts_to_the_Media_About_AI_Momentum_While_Sacking_His.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights IBM CEO Boasts to the Media About "AI" Momentum While Sacking His Workers Who Worked On It
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part VIII - How We Convinced British Police That the Americans Were Just Manipulating and Tricking Them at the Expense of British Taxpayers https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_VIII_How_We_Convinced_British_P.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_VIII_How_We_Convinced_British_P.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part VIII - How We Convinced British Police That the Americans Were Just Manipulating and Tricking Them at the Expense of British Taxpayers
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Links 19/10/2026: Intense Protests in France and "Zelenskyy Says Russia Seeking Blackout In Ukraine" https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Links_19_10_2026_Intense_Protests_in_France_and_Zelenskyy_Says_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Links_19_10_2026_Intense_Protests_in_France_and_Zelenskyy_Says_.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 19/10/2026: Intense Protests in France and "Zelenskyy Says Russia Seeking Blackout In Ukraine"
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Links 19/10/2026: "Investors Disturbed by Anthropic's Financial Data" and &quot;The &quot;Dead Internet&quot; Is Here&quot; (Slop and Bots Running on Huge Debt) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Links_19_10_2026_Investors_Disturbed_by_Anthropic_s_Financial_D.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Links_19_10_2026_Investors_Disturbed_by_Anthropic_s_Financial_D.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 19/10/2026: "Investors Disturbed by Anthropic's Financial Data" and "The "Dead Internet" Is Here" (Slop and Bots Running on Huge Debt)
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Media 'Blackout' About Microsoft-Danfoss Connection After Almost 1,000 Supermarkets in France Get Cracked, Huge Amount of Food Destroyed https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Media_Blackout_About_Microsoft_Danfoss_Connection_After_Almost_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Media_Blackout_About_Microsoft_Danfoss_Connection_After_Almost_.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Media 'Blackout' About Microsoft-Danfoss Connection After Almost 1,000 Supermarkets in France Get Cracked, Huge Amount of Food Destroyed
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Microsoft is Paying Many Workers to Leave the Company This Year, Just Don't Call it "Layoffs" https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Microsoft_is_Paying_Many_Workers_to_Leave_the_Company_This_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Microsoft_is_Paying_Many_Workers_to_Leave_the_Company_This_Year.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft is Paying Many Workers to Leave the Company This Year, Just Don't Call it "Layoffs"
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Techrights Search One Year Later https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Techrights_Search_One_Year_Later.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Techrights_Search_One_Year_Later.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Techrights Search One Year Later
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Today The Register MS Published "SPONSORED POST" Paid for by the Communist Party of China, It Mentions &quot;AI&quot; 19 Times https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Today_The_Register_MS_Published_SPONSORED_POST_Paid_for_by_the_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/19/Today_The_Register_MS_Published_SPONSORED_POST_Paid_for_by_the_.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Today The Register MS Published "SPONSORED POST" Paid for by the Communist Party of China, It Mentions "AI" 19 Times
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights 81% Voted in Favour of EPO Strikes Until End of This Year https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/81_Voted_in_Favour_of_EPO_Strikes_Until_End_of_This_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/81_Voted_in_Favour_of_EPO_Strikes_Until_End_of_This_Year.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights 81% Voted in Favour of EPO Strikes Until End of This Year
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Articles in The Register MS Composed by Employees of the Companies They're About https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Articles_in_The_Register_MS_Composed_by_Employees_of_the_Compan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Articles_in_The_Register_MS_Composed_by_Employees_of_the_Compan.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Articles in The Register MS Composed by Employees of the Companies They're About
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Brett Wilson LLP Has Almost Zero Litigation Clients This Year (in the Area They Specialise in) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Brett_Wilson_LLP_Has_Almost_Zero_Litigation_Clients_This_Year_i.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Brett_Wilson_LLP_Has_Almost_Zero_Litigation_Clients_This_Year_i.gmi 
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights Brett Wilson LLP Has Almost Zero Litigation Clients This Year (in the Area They Specialise in)
[16:48]	TR News	Techrights Cheapening of the Workforce at IBM and Microsoft, Typically Without Even Announcing Any Layoffs https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Cheapening_of_the_Workforce_at_IBM_and_Microsoft_Typically_With.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Cheapening_of_the_Workforce_at_IBM_and_Microsoft_Typically_With.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Cheapening of the Workforce at IBM and Microsoft, Typically Without Even Announcing Any Layoffs
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: GAFAM GCP Outage in the UK and New Odd Release https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_GAFAM_GCP_Outage_in_the_UK_and_New_Odd%CE%BC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_GAFAM_GCP_Outage_in_the_UK_and_New_Odd%CE%BC.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: GAFAM GCP Outage in the UK and New Odd Release
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: Old Movies, Bandera Hike, and Mongolian https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_Old_Movies_Bandera_Hike_and_Mongolian.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_Old_Movies_Bandera_Hike_and_Mongolian.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: Old Movies, Bandera Hike, and Mongolian
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: The Brothers Who Fought Mussolini and a Dying Main Laptop https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_The_Brothers_Who_Fought_Mussolini_and_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Gemini_Links_20_10_2026_The_Brothers_Who_Fought_Mussolini_and_a.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 20/10/2026: The Brothers Who Fought Mussolini and a Dying Main Laptop
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Help Us Improve Techrights https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Help_Us_Improve_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Help_Us_Improve_Techrights.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Help Us Improve Techrights
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part IX - Swatting is Not Funny, Swatting is a Murder Attempt https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_IX_Swatting_is_Not_Funny_Swatti.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_IX_Swatting_is_Not_Funny_Swatti.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part IX - Swatting is Not Funny, Swatting is a Murder Attempt
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 19, 2026 https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/IRC_Proceedings_Monday_October_19_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/IRC_Proceedings_Monday_October_19_2026.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 19, 2026
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Links 20/10/2026: $100 Million ICE Intelligence Program and France Riots https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Links_20_10_2026_100_Million_ICE_Intelligence_Program_and_Franc.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Links_20_10_2026_100_Million_ICE_Intelligence_Program_and_Franc.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 20/10/2026: $100 Million ICE Intelligence Program and France Riots
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Links 20/10/2026: Facebook Scraping and Plagiarising News Sites, Copyright Act Turns 50 https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Links_20_10_2026_Facebook_Scraping_and_Plagiarising_News_Sites_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Links_20_10_2026_Facebook_Scraping_and_Plagiarising_News_Sites_.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 20/10/2026: Facebook Scraping and Plagiarising News Sites, Copyright Act Turns 50
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Microsoft's XBox Leadership and Strategy is Slop https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Microsoft_s_XBox_Leadership_and_Strategy_is_Slop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Microsoft_s_XBox_Leadership_and_Strategy_is_Slop.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft's XBox Leadership and Strategy is Slop
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Where to Celebrate the 20-Year Anniversary https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Where_to_Celebrate_the_20_Year_Anniversary.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/20/Where_to_Celebrate_the_20_Year_Anniversary.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Where to Celebrate the 20-Year Anniversary
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Disclosure/s Crisis at The Register MS (Promoting a Ponzi Scheme for Money) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Disclosure_s_Crisis_at_The_Register_MS_Promoting_a_Ponzi_Scheme.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Disclosure_s_Crisis_at_The_Register_MS_Promoting_a_Ponzi_Scheme.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Disclosure/s Crisis at The Register MS (Promoting a Ponzi Scheme for Money)
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: A Walk Through Amsterdam and Pythagorean Theorem https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_A_Walk_Through_Amsterdam_and_Pythagorea.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_A_Walk_Through_Amsterdam_and_Pythagorea.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: A Walk Through Amsterdam and Pythagorean Theorem
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part X - American Back Doors Inside Our Computers, With Transatlantic Swatting Against Critics Thrown 'Into the Mix' https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_X_American_Back_Doors_Inside_Ou.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_X_American_Back_Doors_Inside_Ou.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part X - American Back Doors Inside Our Computers, With Transatlantic Swatting Against Critics Thrown 'Into the Mix'
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Internet Relay Chat Still Growing https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Internet_Relay_Chat_Still_Growing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Internet_Relay_Chat_Still_Growing.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Internet Relay Chat Still Growing
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 20, 2026 https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_October_20_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/IRC_Proceedings_Tuesday_October_20_2026.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 20, 2026
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "The Tragic Death of the Republican Party" and &quot;No War But Data Center War&quot; https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_The_Tragic_Death_of_the_Republican_Party_and_N.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_The_Tragic_Death_of_the_Republican_Party_and_N.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "The Tragic Death of the Republican Party" and "No War But Data Center War"
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "Zelensky Took the Gloves Off This Time With Convicted Felon" and &quot;Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day&quot; https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_Zelensky_Took_the_Gloves_Off_This_Time_With_Co.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Links_21_10_2026_Zelensky_Took_the_Gloves_Off_This_Time_With_Co.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 21/10/2026: "Zelensky Took the Gloves Off This Time With Convicted Felon" and "Cellebrite iPhone Radio Zero-Day"
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights More Mass Layoffs at Microsoft Weeks From Now, Then Again Months From Now https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/More_Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Weeks_From_Now_Then_Again_Months.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/More_Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_Weeks_From_Now_Then_Again_Months.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights More Mass Layoffs at Microsoft Weeks From Now, Then Again Months From Now
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[16:49]	TR News	Techrights Reuters is Becoming Slop, Not a News Agency (Treat Reports From Reuters Sceptically) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Reuters_is_Becoming_Slop_Not_a_News_Agency_Treat_Reports_From_R.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Reuters_is_Becoming_Slop_Not_a_News_Agency_Treat_Reports_From_R.gmi 
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Techrights Reuters is Becoming Slop, Not a News Agency (Treat Reports From Reuters Sceptically)
● Oct 21
[17:02]	TR News	Hack may be behind outage at Albert Heijn https://nltimes.nl/2026/10/12/cybersecurity-incident-hack-may-behind-outage-albert-heijn
[17:03]	TR Bot	 "Cybersecurity incident:" Hack may be behind outage at Albert Heijn | NL Times
[17:03]	TR News	Shock and surprise after FBI arrests Canadian cybersecurity expert in ShinyHunters hacking case https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadian-cybersecurity-expert-arrested-fbi-shinyhunters-9.7378256
[17:03]	TR Bot	 Shock and surprise after FBI arrests Canadian cybersecurity expert in ShinyHunters hacking case | CBC News
[17:05]	TR News	Cult-like behaviour https://linux.slashdot.org/story/26/10/10/2155227/ubuntu-2610-will-offer-a-rust-based-gnupg-replacement-option
[17:05]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 26.10 Will Offer a Rust-based GnuPG Replacement Option - Slashdot
[17:07]	TR News	The sneaky practice of prompt injection (and what to do about it) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2026/10/ai-in-patent-industry-sneaky-practice.html
[17:07]	TR Bot	 AI in the patent industry: The sneaky practice of prompt injection (and what to do about it)
[17:08]	TR News	distress signal https://www.vox.com/climate/505726/chinstrap-penguins-zavodovski-colony-collapse-ocean-warming
[17:08]	TR Bot	largest penguin colony suffers enormous population crash | Vox
[17:08]	TR News	Evidence in Exxon Mobil Climate Deception Case https://www.truthdig.com/articles/protect-value-and-preserve-options-new-evidence-in-exxonmobil-climate-deception-case/
[17:08]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/protect-value-and-preserve-options-new-evidence-in-exxonmobil-climate-deception-case/ )
[17:09]	TR News	Making a Mess of Climate Week https://www.truthdig.com/articles/making-a-mess-of-climate-week/
[17:09]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/making-a-mess-of-climate-week/ )
[17:09]	TR News	Big Beef https://www.truthdig.com/articles/inside-big-beefs-90s-campaign-to-rewrite-its-climate-story/
[17:09]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/inside-big-beefs-90s-campaign-to-rewrite-its-climate-story/ )
[17:10]	TR News	Millions Spent on Climate Plans at Risk as Three Data Centres Threaten New Mexico and El Paso Goals https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/texas-new-mexico-data-centres-climate-emissions-1825835
[17:10]	TR Bot	 Millions Spent on Climate Plans at Risk as Three Data Centres Threaten New Mexico and El Paso Goals | IBTimes UK
[17:11]	TR News	COP31 https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-s-green-taxonomy-paradox-ahead-of-cop31-nuclear-energy-and-fossil-gas-are-unacceptable-324254
[17:11]	TR Bot	 Turkey's Green Taxonomy paradox ahead of COP31: Nuclear energy and fossil gas are unacceptable
[17:11]	TR News	Rising energy prices mean cost of district heating will go up in Denmark next year https://www.thelocal.dk/20261012/rising-energy-prices-mean-cost-of-district-heating-will-go-up-in-denmark-next-year
[17:11]	TR Bot	 Rising energy prices mean cost of district heating will go up in Denmark next year
[17:11]	TR News	NHG: Buyers of low energy label homes now have to borrow more for sustainability https://nltimes.nl/2026/10/13/nhg-buyers-low-energy-label-homes-now-borrow-sustainabilit https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-14/global/eu-warns-of-worsening-energy-costs-as-winter-approaches/
[17:11]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://nltimes.nl/2026/10/13/nhg-buyers-low-energy-label-homes-now-borrow-sustainabilit )
[17:11]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-14/global/eu-warns-of-worsening-energy-costs-as-winter-approaches/ )
[17:12]	TR News	Trkiye: End Internet Censorship https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/10/12/turkiye-end-internet-censorship
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Trkiye: End Internet Censorship | Human Rights Watch
[17:13]	TR News	art censorship https://jacobin.com/2026/10/bauhaus-nazis-afd-art-censorship
[17:13]	TR Bot	 Germanys Far Right Is Attacking Bauhaus Again
[17:14]	TR News	Death Penalty for Facebook Comment https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/10/13/saudi-arabia-death-penalty-for-facebook-comment
[17:14]	TR Bot	 Saudi Arabia: Death Penalty for Facebook Comment | Human Rights Watch
[17:15]	TR News	Another journalist detained over reporting on Turkey's investment fund crisis https://bianet.org/haber/another-journalist-detained-over-reporting-on-turkey-s-investment-fund-crisis-324461
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Another journalist detained over reporting on Turkey's investment fund crisis
[17:15]	TR News	X account blocked in Turkey https://bianet.org/haber/pro-kurdish-mezopotamya-agencys-x-account-blocked-in-turkey-324406
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Pro-Kurdish Mezopotamya Agencys X account blocked in Turkey
[17:16]	TR News	takes over top news channel https://www.dw.com/en/turkey-government-raids-takes-over-top-news-channel/a-79662749
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Turkey: Government raids, takes over top news channel
[17:16]	TR News	journalists arrested for spreading disinformation https://cpj.org/2026/10/turkey-4-more-journalists-arrested-for-spreading-disinformation-as-media-crackdown-intensifies/
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Turkey: 4 more journalists arrested for spreading disinformation as media crackdown intensifies - Committee to Protect Journalists
[17:16]	TR News	Turkey's under-15 social media ban could affect adults as well https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-s-under-15-social-media-ban-could-affect-adults-as-well-324340
[17:16]	TR Bot	 Turkey's under-15 social media ban could require adults to verify age through government portal
[17:17]	TR News	CPJ, partners ask Turkey and social media platforms to halt online crackdown on journalists and rights defenders https://cpj.org/2026/10/cpj-partners-ask-turkey-and-social-media-platforms-to-halt-online-crackdown-on-journalists-and-rights-defenders/
[17:17]	TR Bot	 CPJ, partners ask Turkey and social media platforms to halt online crackdown on journalists and rights defenders - Committee to Protect Journalists
[17:23]	TR News	Summer Day gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/nm03/2026/OCT2026/entry-3
[17:23]	TR News	"Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya break record for latest day of 30 degrees" https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/16982771
[17:23]	TR Bot	Osaka, Nagoya break record for latest day of 30 degrees | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis
[17:24]	TR News	"I often hear that we in the Western world have enough food to easily feed all the hungry of the world. In terms of raw caloric totals of the food on market shelves, I don't doubt that claim. However, I can't help but question the quality of that food." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2026/202610/20261020-whole-food-for-the-whole-world.gmi
[17:25]	TR News	fm-1 gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/gef/reflections/fm1 "Fast forward a couple month, and the fm-1 built momentum. Due to it's open firmware, the device started to be hacked and many custom firmware came about."
[17:26]	TR News	"Its easy to create tables from text once you have a template which you can copy, and if your editor supports column select, its even easier. Some HTML-to-Gemtext converters even create (Unicode) tables from HTML tables." gemini://michaelnordmeyer.com/transmissions/2026-10-21-how-to-create-tables-in-gemtext.gmi
[17:28]	TR News	"i was excited to try this book. i respect monteleone's depth of knowledge and for some reason i could never sit through a video of his, so i was ready to read." gemini://dogboy.smol.pub/books
[17:29]	TR News	"Starting tomorrow, I'm counting down my ten favorite Halloween songs, one a day, with #1 landing on Halloween night." gemini://gemini.sergio101.com/top-10-halloween-songs-countdown/
[17:48]	ZedHedTed	dude wtf is with mainstream OS vendors making their battery indicators hard to see?
[17:49]	ZedHedTed	first AOSP putting the % inside the battery icon, slowly dropping from grey-on-white to grey-on-transparent
[17:49]	ZedHedTed	^that came downstream to GrapheneOS too
[17:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	no "themes"?
[17:50]	ZedHedTed	and now the latest macOS version, Golden Hind, has a rounded battery indicator w/ barely any difference between the white and transparent
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● Oct 21
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	ZedHedTed: sad if true
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	but I don't use mobile
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	the phone i use has a battery meter
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's just one colour
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	dark on backlit screen
[18:05]	MinceR	just the number is enough for me
[18:05]	MinceR	but i understand that most crApple users are afraid of numbers, and crApple knows this too
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	they uaully don't show those
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	in some desktops
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	they show lightening for charging
[18:05]	MinceR	hence "millions of colors" and stupid bullshit like that
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then something else, with a volume-like thing
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	which sometimes changes colour when critically low
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	Maya21: something full is not 100%
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: 
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	which makes it trickey
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	which makes it tricky... as batteries age poorly
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then "full" is not a number
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless rescaled
[18:07]	MinceR	yeah, i usually charge up to 80% or 70-something%
[18:07]	MinceR	some of my devices can limit it on their own
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	ZedHedTed reminds me of issues i avoid
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	like i no longer drive
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	and no PDA with me most of the time
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[18:08]	MinceR	i like driving, as long as no one else is on the road
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	no such concept as "low battery"
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless I am hungry or fatigued
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: yes, but it never works like this
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	except in your garage
[18:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	which few have
[18:08]	MinceR	around here it often does
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	they share parking lots with other people
[18:09]	MinceR	especially if i pick the right route
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	who can bump into their mirror or tin when they are away in some apartment high up
[18:09]	MinceR	(i'm not in budapest currently)
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	when I was 17 a lady nearly caused an accident
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	she parked in the middle of the road
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	waiting for a kid
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	she broke the law
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	but that didn't matter to her
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i have a  kid"
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i am allowed"
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	(to clog up a one laner
[18:10]	MinceR	very common attitude
[18:10]	MinceR	"i'm important, nobody else matters, the rules don't apply to me"
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	she wanted to make it seem like the issue was me
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	for having to go around her
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	i no longer have to deal with drivers like these
[18:11]	ZedHedTed	sad indeed. i hate being forced to carry around a bugged mic w/ me all day.
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	i stopped wearing my wrist watch also
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	as usually it's not _that_ important to know the _exact_ time
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	i recognise in some cases it is essential
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not everyday
[18:12]	ZedHedTed	that said, i'm not afraid of my phone anymore. GOS has all the spyware stripped out. even Google Play is optional.
[18:13]	ZedHedTed	even if installed, it's sandboxed.
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	the firmware OS is there
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it can take over everything else
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	via the towers
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	look into it
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	you cannot change the "other" OS on the board
[18:13]	ZedHedTed	oh shit...i will
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	tldr
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	the antenna has some zero days
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	or bug doors
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	sort of like CALEA
[18:13]	MinceR	the baseband can't take over anything if it doesn't have DMA, but on most phones, it does
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	but not the same
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	oops, yes, baseband, i types firmware
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	*typed
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	this was known 2 decadesa go
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	also se:
[18:14]	MinceR	one way to mitigate this is to have a phone that has the SIM and tethers over WiFi and another device (not even necessarily with a cellular interface) where the important stuff runs and uses the phone as an AP
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/search/query?query1=CALEA&set1=metadata&search=Search
[18:14]	TR Bot	 Techrights Search
[18:15]	MinceR	afaik the PinePhone's baseband has no DMA but its application processor is very slow
[18:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	]http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2025/08/13/PinePhone_Pro_Linux_smartphone_has_been_discontinued_but_the_or.shtml
[18:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PinePhone Pro Linux smartphone has been discontinued, but the original PinePhone is still available
[18:15]	MinceR	i suppose an IOMMU can help too
[18:15]	ZedHedTed	MinceR: sort of like having 1 phone host a hotspot and connecting the important phone to that SSID?
[18:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://pine64.org/2026/07/25/pinephone3dfiles_2026/
[18:15]	TR Bot	 Full PinePhone 3D File Released - PINE64
[18:16]	MinceR	yeah
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	what might work ok is the rms hack
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't have one, ask a friend for one
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you really need to make a call
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are also some public phones still
[18:16]	MinceR	lol
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	if you look hard enough
[18:17]	MinceR	i mostly use phones for internet access, not for calls
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[18:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	at least you don't need to charge and worry about charging all day long
[18:17]	MinceR	if that comes up, i just take my power bank along
[18:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: so it's a portable browsing terminal
[18:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	or email terminal
[18:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	not phone per se
[18:18]	MinceR	it's a PDA with a phone
[18:18]	MinceR	like a Treo
[18:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Treo defected to Windows Mobile
[18:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	that was "TheEnd"
[18:18]	MinceR	yeah
[18:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	my todo list from 2002 is still on my pda
[18:20]	ZedHedTed	i use that same hotspot idea for my old phone w/ azur lane on it. sadly, that old phone can't be docked to a monitor so i'm stuck on a tiny screen.
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[18:21]	MinceR	Leo claims the PinePhone Pro, Neo900 and Librem 5 also have the modem on USB; and that Pixel + GrapheneOS has a correctly setup IOMMU to prevent the aforementioned DMA shenanigans from the baseband
[18:21]	MinceR	sadly, the Pixel has no memory card slot
[18:21]	ZedHedTed	when i get my next phone, my current phone will become my AL phone, and this one *does* have docking capabilities!
[18:22]	MinceR	it seems that there is some occasional progress when it comes to security after all
[18:23]	MinceR	even if it is just analysis of some unwanted, risky boondoggle that was forced on us, like IME, PSP and Pluton
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	the aim is not security
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	they know 95% or more of people have them
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i imaghine 80% or more of adults carry them everywhere all the time
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are addicted
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	so oppressing orgs see that as an opportunity
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	to control over 5 billion living humans
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	so the "irresistible" gadget is status symbol no more
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	people find ways to get by without them
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	or with a lot less of them
[18:28]	schestowitz[TR2]	we want that last group to grow
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	tomorrow i go in person to City Council
[18:29]	MinceR	some of it is
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	to challenge them to give service in person
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	and i will bring pen and notebook
[18:29]	MinceR	afaik the developers of AOSP forks like /e/OS and GrapheneOS are targeting security and privacy
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	to take info
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: they say so
[18:29]	MinceR	security researchers who figure out what the IME, PSP, etc. do are also interested in security
[18:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	for people who are mandated to carry skinnerboxes
[18:30]	ZedHedTed	yes, GrapheneOS is heavily security-focused
[18:30]	MinceR	the skinner box is not a feature of the device
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	and are geeky enough to 'mob' their gadgets
[18:30]	MinceR	it's a feature of some applications and websites that can be used on them
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	<ZedHedTed> yes, GrapheneOS is heavily security-focused
[18:31]	ZedHedTed	1 of the "features" touted by Steve Jobs for the original iphone was not needing a stylus. 
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	to the point of border 'raids'
[18:31]	ZedHedTed	then 10 year later, we come full circle...with an android phone that comes w/ a stylus
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	stylus was not needed in blackberry
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	it had a keybopard
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	phyiscal
[18:31]	MinceR	i would like to get an AOSP phone with a proper stylus
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	many web interfaces changed
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	people scroll and "like"
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	without saying a word
[18:32]	MinceR	these capacitive touchscreens are super unreliable
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	or tapping some "emoticon"
[18:32]	MinceR	a physical keyboard would be nice, too
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	small screens without stylus -> must have largee buttons
[18:32]	ZedHedTed	blackberry had a physical keyboard that anyone whose fingers were wider than needles could barely type on
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	 must have largee buttons - lousy innterfaces
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	 lousy interfaces -> lower productivity
[18:33]	ZedHedTed	i recall in 2009-2010 there was an explosion of different phones w/ slide-out and other form factor physical keyboards
[18:33]	MinceR	sadly, the unihertz titan 2 elite is unsupported by /e/OS, LineageOS and GrapheneOS
[18:33]	MinceR	i had some phones with slide-out keyboards, but those were easy to drop
[18:33]	MinceR	i'd prefer monoblock
[18:34]	MinceR	maybe the nokia N97's tilting when opening the keyboard made it even easier to drop
[18:34]	ZedHedTed	yeah, at least touchscreen keyboards get better at predicting your next word/fixing typos with time
[18:34]	MinceR	touchscreen keyboards make me smear the oils from my skin on the screen
[18:34]	ZedHedTed	and there are are FOSS keyboards like openboard and heliboard
[18:35]	MinceR	and they rely on touchscreens that ignore taps all the time
[18:35]	MinceR	i like unexpected keyboard
[18:35]	ZedHedTed	same statistical word perdiction partially behind "AI"
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	LLMms
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	but it is not the same
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	fixing typo without context is proximity to pattern
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	across words is CPU-intensive
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and probably takes more storage and RAM tooo
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	if not at the client side, then the server
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	which them means it is a keylogger
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you don't want a keylogger
[18:37]	MinceR	we probably waste more resources on less important things locally
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	like skinerboxes :)
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	*nner
[18:38]	MinceR	like unnecessary animations, ads and spyware
[18:38]	MinceR	and poorly designed, poorly implemented software
[18:43]	parsifal	You are seeking security where, by definition, it does not exist, regardless of the software or hardware.
[18:43]	parsifal	It doesn't matter what you do, not one bit. If you plug it at one end, it starts leaking from the other.
[18:43]	parsifal	This is just one example out of thousands: Signal bug could keep your mic - and camera - on after hangup -> https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/10/21/signal-bug-could-keep-your-mic-and-camera-on-after-hangup/5304528
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Signal bug could keep your mic - and camera - on after hangup
[18:43]	parsifal	^"It's not a bug, it's a feature" - said the three letters...
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[18:52]	nobody	> nation-wide security breach in germany hospitals and government offices shutting down their web-sites
[18:52]	nobody	https://www.bild.de/politik/weltweite-sicherheitsluecke-hacker-alarm-charite-website-offline-6ad8d01a8ef0fba254b7b6fa
[18:52]	TR Bot	weltweiter IT-Sicherheitslcke: Zahlreiche Behrden und Stdte nehmen Webseiten vom Netz | Politik | BILD.de
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[19:00]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux Inching Upwards in South America https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/GNU_Linux_Inching_Upwards_in_South_America.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/GNU_Linux_Inching_Upwards_in_South_America.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux Inching Upwards in South America
[19:00]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: Summer Day in Tokyo (30c in Late October) and Whole Food for the Whole World https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_Summer_Day_in_Tokyo_30c_in_Late_October.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Gemini_Links_21_10_2026_Summer_Day_in_Tokyo_30c_in_Late_October.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 21/10/2026: Summer Day in Tokyo (30c in Late October) and Whole Food for the Whole World
[19:00]	TR News	Techrights Mass Layoffs at Microsoft This Week and/or Next Week https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_This_Week_and_or_Next_Week.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Mass_Layoffs_at_Microsoft_This_Week_and_or_Next_Week.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights Mass Layoffs at Microsoft This Week and/or Next Week
[19:00]	TR News	Techrights With Its Future on the Line, EPO Management (Dictatorship) Resorts to Further Escalations to Fake 'Production' and Curtail Industrial Actions https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/With_Its_Future_on_the_Line_EPO_Management_Dictatorship_Resorts.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/With_Its_Future_on_the_Line_EPO_Management_Dictatorship_Resorts.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights With Its Future on the Line, EPO Management (Dictatorship) Resorts to Further Escalations to Fake 'Production' and Curtail Industrial Actions
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[19:12]	TR News	"Talk is cheap. Alvind talks a lot but his achievements in 2026 leave a lot to be desired by investors. In short, he is pathetic as a CEO. He lost his mojo and it isn't coming back anytime." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m52srysr
[19:12]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m52srysr )
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	"v"
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	When Arvind Krishna discusses IBMs strategic opportunities, the questions should be specific:
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	    What revenue, if any, is nanostack generating?
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	    What external customers have committed to evaluating or adopting the technology?
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	    Is a manufacturing partner committed to developing the process?
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	    What measurable milestones will establish manufacturing readiness?
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	    What commercial outcomes does IBM expect from its partnerships, and on what timeline?
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5edfmtv "
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	Incoming: XBOX CUTS (Again...)
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	    Xbox will have 3 additional layoff rounds.
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	    Cuts reportedly scheduled October, November, and January (fun, fun, fun)
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	    Microsoft previously announced 3,200 Xbox job cuts.
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	    Leadership says Xbox isn't being sold off.
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[19:17]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5edfmtv )
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	Sounds like they're just spreading the remaining FY27 cuts across multiple rounds. They announced 3,200 back in July, cut 1,600 then and another ~260 in September. That still leaves a pretty significant number if the original target holds. My guess is they're working through the org changes and deciding which teams to consolidate or eliminate. Wouldn't be surprised if Activision takes another hit. The bigger concern is whether Jan
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	uary is actually the end of it or just the next checkpoint."
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Bigger question is whether 3.2K was ever the real number or just the first one they were comfortable saying out loud."
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is dictracting
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	the layoffs are not xbox
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are microsoft
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	it impacts the whole company
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	the media says 'xbox xbox xbox'
[19:20]	TR News	emotionally intelligent https://theconversation.com/women-are-more-emotionally-intelligent-than-men-and-thats-a-problem-landmark-study-293385
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Women are more emotionally intelligent than men, and thats a problem landmark study
[19:20]	TR News	the outcome favours big tech https://theconversation.com/experts-have-voted-to-stop-adding-extra-seconds-to-clock-time-the-outcome-favours-big-tech-294297
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Experts have voted to stop adding extra seconds to clock time the outcome favours big tech
[19:21]	TR News	Amazon Package Drivers Rev Up Organizing To Become Direct Employees https://scheerpost.com/2026/10/11/amazon-package-drivers-rev-up-organizing-to-become-direct-employees Pluralistic: Expedia amazoned hotel rooms (15 Oct 2026) https://pluralistic.net/2026/10/15/enshittipedia/
[19:21]	TR Bot	 Amazon Package Drivers Rev Up Organizing To Become Direct Employees
[19:21]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Expedia amazoned hotel rooms (15 Oct 2026) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[19:22]	TR News	colour marks http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2026/10/colour-me-orange-german-supreme-court.html
[19:22]	TR Bot	 Colour me orange: German Supreme Court sets high bar for acquired distinctiveness of abstract colour marks
[19:23]	TR News	figurative marks http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2026/10/different-standards-for-coloured.html
[19:23]	TR Bot	 Different standards for coloured figurative marks and abstract colour marks?
[19:23]	TR News	ANNOUNCE: Perl.Wiki V 1.56, CPAN::MetaCurator V 1.33 https://blogs.perl.org/users/ron_savage/2026/10/announce-perlwiki-v-156-cpanmetacurator-v-133.html
[19:23]	TR Bot	Perl.Wiki V 1.56, CPAN::MetaCurator V 1.33 | Ron Savage [blogs.perl.org]
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[19:49]	ZedHedTed	heard about this smart device insantiy on the radio this morning
[19:49]	ZedHedTed	https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/it-pro-says-his-parents-keurig-smart-coffee-maker-sent-1tb-of-data-over-their-wi-fi-in-10-days-it-saturated-an-access-point-on-its-own-but-he-says-most-of-the-traffic-never-left-the-home-network
[19:49]	TR Bot	 IT pro says his parents Keurig smart coffee maker sent 1 terabyte of data over their Wi-Fi in 10 days it saturated an access point on its own, but he says most of the traffic never left the home network | Tom's Hardware
● Oct 21
[20:29]	TR News	Techrights Some Downtime Possible Shortly (Router Work) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Some_Downtime_Possible_Shortly_Router_Work.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Some_Downtime_Possible_Shortly_Router_Work.gmi 
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Some Downtime Possible Shortly (Router Work)
[20:29]	TR News	Techrights Techrights Was Right About a Fake Security Model Built Around Lies or Built Upon Trust in "Certificates" and &quot;Authorities&quot; (like Microsoft) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Techrights_Was_Right_About_a_Fake_Security_Model_Built_Around_L.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Techrights_Was_Right_About_a_Fake_Security_Model_Built_Around_L.gmi 
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Techrights Was Right About a Fake Security Model Built Around Lies or Built Upon Trust in "Certificates" and "Authorities" (like Microsoft)
[20:29]	TR News	Techrights Windows Monopoly is No Longer Sustainable (the Case of Oceania) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Windows_Monopoly_is_No_Longer_Sustainable_the_Case_of_Oceania.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/21/Windows_Monopoly_is_No_Longer_Sustainable_the_Case_of_Oceania.gmi 
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Windows Monopoly is No Longer Sustainable (the Case of Oceania)
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[21:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	ZedHedTed: -keurig
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	because you need DRM in kitchen appliance
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you need "Data"
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	for god knows what...
[21:30]	admfubar	and all those lil plastic one use cups to brew your coffee cost the environment
[21:55]	admfubar	https://xkcd.com/3314/
[21:55]	TR Bot	Vulnerability
● Oct 21
[22:04]	parsifal	This falls into the same category as the coffee machine -> only the scale is different, as is the damage, but the idiocy is exactly the same...
[22:04]	parsifal	Fridges in French supermarkets hit by cyber attack -> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crq5nzxv9q4yo
[22:04]	TR Bot	 Fridges in French supermarkets hit by cyber attack
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[22:52]	nobody	> Germany ministry of the interior information security warns effectively all web server installations with any PHP version of recent 20years prone to severe security breaches
[22:53]	nobody	> PHP foundation admits the vulnerabilities were investigated since year 2024 already without action taken due to absent funding
[22:54]	cybershow	NCSC sent out warnings to all UK webmasters today that PHP is severe risk
[22:54]	nobody	airports, hospitals, large web hosting providers etc. all taking down their web-servers currently
[22:58]	nobody	this website is hosted just fine safe and secure on linux-tcc/2.4:
[22:58]	nobody	http://tinyfront.mooo.com/projects.html#tinycms.md
[22:59]	TR Bot	 projects
[22:59]	nobody	myself was thinking about it for a little while, finally disabled all CGI etc. and deploy pre-rendered static-site instead
● Oct 21
[23:00]	nobody	lighttpd backported onto linux-2.4, all statically linked, chrooted
[23:01]	MinceR	php's always been a trash fire, but devil apes love trash
[23:02]	cybershow	like Roy and Rianne, I started converting everything to static generation. Began this summer in June. By August I had everything as plain HTML on all assets
[23:03]	cybershow	agree with MinceR, I always found PHP a bit sus and scuzzy
[23:04]	cybershow	so you built lighttps from source with linking flags nobody?
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[23:05]	nobody	i'm building everything from source, since i have to backport onto linux-2.4 and support static linking
[23:07]	cybershow	for a while I've been looking at BSD for hosting
[23:08]	cybershow	plain old httpd
[23:09]	cybershow	in your opinion what is best for segmentation/compartments.... BSD jails, chroot, containers, micro VMs? any thoughts? 
[23:10]	cybershow	or just let the web sever do simple domain based hosting instead of over-complicating things?
[23:12]	cybershow	I really got into docker last year. Its so seductive. But I',m outsourcing a lot of trust.
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[23:18]	bms	the OPNsense firewall uses PHP for the front end but it's not normally exposed
[23:18]	bms	they did a significant model-view-controller style rewrite of the pfSense product as it existed from Netgate
[23:19]	bms	and there was some harassment from the pfSense people towards the OPNsense people as I heard anyway
[23:19]	bms	I've been running physical errands like taking my e-waste to the local recycling point
[23:19]	bms	and only occasionally dipping in to see what updates have been pushed
[23:19]	nobody	yep, that's a major issue, hundreds of millions of routers not receiving updates and exposing a dynamic php site to public
[23:20]	bms	my Win11 based browsers got updated quickly (LibreWolf, Pale Moon, Vivaldi) but the Android Vivaldi build is still lagging
[23:20]	bms	allegedly Microsoft have done NOTHING about patching Edge for the the "The private key is 4"
[23:21]	bms	people will be most worried about WordPress and legacy Drupal installs w.r.t PHP
[23:21]	nobody	cybershow: i don't recommend para-virtualization (containers etc), those promote lax administration of services contained
[23:22]	bms	nobody: someone did a teardown on jails vs docker, something something Voss I think
[23:22]	nobody	jails and chroot aren't much different, and that's the type of administration which must be done
[23:22]	bms	same person did a teardown on seccomp-bpf vs Capsicum (there really is no comparison, Linux "capabilities" are the remnants of POSIX.1e from 1997 which did not land, they are not capabilities in the formal sense)
[23:22]	nobody	besides privilege separation (running services as non-root) etc.
[23:23]	bms	on the contrary jail goes much further
[23:23]	bms	VNET/VIMAGE for example (I shared an office with Marko Zec briefly)
[23:23]	bms	it has advanced significantly since Poul-Henning Kamp first derived it
[23:23]	cybershow	https://vivianvoss.net/blog/the-jails-replacement
[23:23]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[23:24]	nobody	it's too recommended to separate mounted disk space into writeable and executable regions (i'm loading my executable rootfs non-suid from squashfs read-only for example)
[23:24]	bms	that said the encapsulation is not perfect, it is not and does not claim to be either
[23:24]	bms	(for jails)
[23:24]	cybershow	I agree that containers tend to sweep it all under the rug. Havent updated the internals of some in a while
[23:24]	nobody	such minor things can greatly benefit security, and should be considered with or without Virtual machines alike
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[23:24]	bms	yes, Klara Systems, the ZFS consulting outfit in Canada, posted on tying jails down to specific ZFS datasets.
[23:27]	bms	I have Ch10 of Levy to finish off reading his book
[23:27]	bms	a capabilities model requires total encapsulation
[23:29]	bms	so in that sense jails can't be said to be such, although jailed processes can be Capsicumized, where the cap-mode namespace restrictions will be hit first. this doesn't make the enclosing jail irrelevant-- it will still constrain what service processes e.g. the Zygotes which Casper spawns for libc-compatible DNS in processes in the sandbox for example.
[23:29]	bms	the canonical examples of FreeBSD base system daemons which have been Capsicumized seem to be rtsold (IPv6 Router Solicitation) and syslogd itself
[23:31]	cybershow	my experiences of SE Linux traunatised me. How easy are BSD caps to set/administrate?
[23:31]	bms	this is subject of my ongoing research -- there's a close correspondence between Python multiprocessing's "forkserver" and the Zygote in libcasper for example, and given how Python processes interact with APIs provided by the platform via the base Python modules, it is probably best to handle sandboxing in a Pythonic way, NOT by wrapping Casper in CFFI or Cython for example
[23:31]	bms	you have to port code to it -- no other way, but the simplest example is tcpdump
[23:32]	bms	the restrictions are hard and unremitting once capability mode is entered via cap_enter() or the helper macros or functions Casper provides to ease compartmentalization
[23:32]	bms	only syscalls marked CAPENABLED in syscalls.master are permitted for a process in cap-mode, no exceptions
[23:33]	cybershow	how does one scout/recce ahead and know what caps will be needed without intimately knowing the app?
[23:34]	bms	Robert Watson closed the gap with the pid_t space being globally visible with respect to the designation aspect of capabilities, by wrapping them in file descriptors; procdesc(4). it seemed the right move. MAC continues to be checked *after* or *behind* the cap checks so there's no ambient authority leading to Confused Deputy situations.
[23:34]	cybershow	SElinux was all about test it, fail, test it, fail.... ad nauseum
[23:34]	bms	you quite literally have to know your use cases
[23:34]	bms	yes I recognise the trial-and-error approach well
[23:35]	bms	as a young thing straight out of uni, I was roped into setting up CA eTrust for that on Solaris 2.6 in JPMorgan futures & options onsite
[23:35]	bms	if you designed your code according to an object-capabilities model or with that approach in mind (as in, becoming a Jedi like disciple of Mark S. Miller, Hank Levy and Norm Hardy and so on as I am becoming now) then it should work out
[23:37]	nobody	OpenBSD base system utilizes pledge() which needs no further administration
[23:37]	cybershow	I do often have the patience to go full jedi, but 1) things change rapidly and as I get older I find too slow to repeat the work, and 2) its impossible to convince anyone else to follow such a path 
[23:37]	bms	an extra neato side effect is that if you were going to use the obj-cap approach, LLM code generation is unlikely to help you, because there are few examples of the genre (Cap'n Proto doesn't count because when I did trial the Qwen and Claude models, they just regurgitated web site content based examples for the most part, and weren't trained on v2 which has the EzRpc
[23:37]	bms	ease-you-into-it-slowly wrappers missing)
[23:38]	bms	nobody: pledge and unveil still require that code is ported to use them. I have not done a full teardown, but it did not claim to be a capabilities model.
[23:38]	nobody	by default services do privilege separation there, overall OpenBSD seems rather safe by default
[23:38]	cybershow	aha that lack of widespread knowledge works as a favour againt LLM attacks, I see
[23:38]	nobody	bms: yes, and openbsd did pledge() their base system
[23:38]	bms	nobody: although folk have proposed to emulate pledge and unveil in terms of Capsicum, there's no real 1:1 correspondence, and the main effort bit-rotted
[23:38]	nobody	would be curious if the OpenBSD port of php is affected
[23:39]	bms	Google quietly dropped their Capsicum port for Linux in 2020
[23:39]	nobody	bms: another important aspect, administrative and development efforts needed; if you haven't much time, OpenBSD offers a reasonable default
[23:39]	bms	there was a RISC-V CHERI announcement recently
[23:40]	nobody	and well, myself remains idling atop linux-2.4 here, without relevant worries
[23:40]	nobody	i've only applied a subset grsecurity patchset of it for ASLR
[23:40]	bms	notably Bitcoin Core is now using Cap'n Proto. But none of the capabilities model. That might warrant a rewrite, on par with "heroic programming". Amir Taaki picked up a rifle, went to Syria, was not heard of after.
[23:40]	cybershow	nobody: the vintage kernel, small attack surface approacj has me curious
[23:41]	bms	you can use capnproto as "better than protobuf" or for faster "cerealization" but it's missing the point
[23:41]	nobody	cybershow: well, the kernel fork is uploaded already, but i'm not ready to upload the userspace mess with hundreds of patches and hacks
[23:42]	cybershow	i appreciate ots personal work in progress
[23:42]	bms	of course CHERI is capability addressing, CApsicum is OS level capabilities, and Ccapnproto is capabilities at the IPC/RPC level which kind of fnnnels you into an obj-cap approach
[23:42]	bms	what comes after that is network-as-capability
[23:42]	nobody	and overall i did take a few administrative security precautions, for example loading rootfs from read-only squashfs is something i tend to trust
[23:42]	bms	closest state of art I have seen is Host Identity Protocol
[23:43]	nobody	even when a security breach occurs, it's almost impossible to persist any changes
[23:43]	bms	I got my main FreeBSD box upgraded to AMD Zen 3 arch this AM
[23:43]	cybershow	network as caps is gold. I;ve always wanted to just ringfence some apps as _never_ touch a network
[23:43]	nobody	bms: fine-grained sandboxing requires notable administrative efforts
[23:44]	nobody	with regards to networking i did another administrative hack instead:
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[23:44]	bms	it claims to have the Intel-originated Memory Protection Keys feature which are in esseence a limited inter-thread encapsulation mechanism
[23:44]	nobody	with iptables it's possible to filter inbound/outbound based on guid/uid, and by default i block ALL outbound traffic, even uid=root isn't permitted to open an outbound connection
[23:45]	bms	supervisor-mode PKS can mitigate some Ring 0 exposures like the BUMSRAKETE stuff that got found in FreeBSD kernel TLS offload (stuff Netflix relies on for streaming)
[23:45]	nobody	and then i gradually opened several outbound ports based on guid/uid
[23:45]	bms	user-mode PKU potentially lets you compartmentalize things like routing state between threads in a BGP process
[23:45]	bms	it isn't cap-mode addressing; it's just ACLs, but it's still a bulkhead, just not as strong as e.g. sealing in CHERI
[23:46]	nobody	so, even when some security breach occured with any service, chances are any malicious code (which can't be written to anywhere with executable permission), even if any outbound connection attempt would leave some traces in iptables.log
[23:46]	bms	I remember hacking my Linux 1.x kernel with Slackware 3 in university halls to tie various ports down to various uids with kernel patches ~1997
[23:46]	cybershow	CHERI works below the OS, on addresses and memory mnagement ? that's sealing?
[23:47]	nobody	which spares me the hazzle of fine-grained SElinux/capsicum/seccomp etc.
[23:47]	bms	sealing is when you temporarily restrict your own access to a capability grant which you hold, e.g. when about to call into untrusted code 
[23:47]	cybershow	okay. you rescind your own access rights
[23:47]	bms	the concept's been around since ~1974 IIRC, a PhD thesis related to an MIT effort Levy wrote about
[23:48]	bms	only temporarily, usually the capability itself is encrypted with a key for example
[23:48]	cybershow	thanks, I like that idea a lot
[23:48]	cybershow	have heard people talk about it 
[23:48]	bms	I haven't seen such for the layers further up, e.g. capnproto and capsicum, but the CHERI ABI supports it
[23:49]	bms	I believe it was part of the CMU Hydra capabilities framework which sat atop PDP-11 clusters
[23:50]	bms	the capabilities addressing technique cna of course be used to support control-flow integrity, though I didn't look to see if LLVM's own CFI software approach was adapted to it
[23:50]	bms	the AMD Zen 3 CPU I now have installed claims to support Intel CET shadow-stacks but not branch tracking
[23:50]	nobody	CFI and things like this, i would throw into the bag of runtime-forensics, which are very expensive, technically
[23:50]	bms	those are mitigations for the so-called "return oriented programming" which sounds like a more polite way of saying "smashing the call stack"
[23:52]	nobody	ASLR is the only memory protection measure i activated with linux-2.4 (because all other such as W^X, stack-smashing protection canaries etc. are intrusive and need extensive support from compiler, and administrative action)
[23:53]	nobody	in the end CFI, W^X, SSP, none of this prevents memory corruption, it merely detects those
[23:53]	nobody	while ASLR doesn't detect any memory corruption, it merely makes it very difficult to inject malicious code for execution
[23:55]	nobody	SElinux, seccomp, etc. require notable administrative efforts in comparison to chroot/iptables/read-only-rootfs
[23:55]	bms	it would be nice to say that capabilities addressing would solve it all, but it still requires people to know what they are doing
[23:55]	nobody	finally security measures chosen depend on what's supposed to be accomplished by those
[23:55]	bms	it makes far more economic sense though, modulo the installed base problem
[23:55]	bms	CHERI vs TRACTOR
[23:55]	nobody	if it's merely preventing data breaches, there's simpler methods than SElinux
[23:55]	bms	CHERI: adapt existing C/C++ code to memory safety through cap-addressing
[23:55]	bms	TRACTOR: rewrite the lot into Rust/Go with LLMs
[23:56]	nobody	but if runtime-forensics and tracing are desired, SElinux, memory dump debugging etc. are unavoidable - to spot and fix vulnerabilities in source code
[23:56]	nobody	which i haven't got the time for, hence i have to live with simple precautions to prevent breaches
[23:56]	bms	Ben Laurie and Robert Watson published (outside of cam.ac.uk scope, as a private company) on CHERI being quite efficient that way, they didn't draw a direct comparison with the DARPA TRACTOR initiative
[23:57]	bms	as far as C++ goes, Bjarne Stroustrup wasn't idle, but his version of safety profiles didn't land.
[23:57]	bms	std::span and std::start_lifetime_as (IIRC) are a good start
[23:58]	cybershow	I'm definitely in a space more like you now nobody, needing pragmatic good-enough security environment for servers, but I love to keep an eye on the more experimental approaches like bma mentions, hopefully these just become more mainstream and easier to administrate
[23:58]	bms	my focus is pretty tight; it's not general. i'm all about hardening the routing substrate.
[23:59]	cybershow	yes that makes sense to be so tight at that critical juncture
[23:59]	bms	I'd aim to prototype my obj-caps broker in Python, but it really should be written in C++ because Python lacks strong encapsulation at language level leading to explicit CWEs.