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[00:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, "A Chinese dissident who was hailed as a hero in Western media is now being given the silent treatment.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	His mistake? Saying out loud that the US is starting to remind him of China, where if you say the wrong thing..
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Well, you dont just get killed or disappeared.as such. Just professionally ruined. Perhaps a better example is the concept of dedma, a word that Filipino people may be more familiar with, where society will shun you and ignore you if it becomes aware you have the wrong views.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Without going too far astray, the wrong opinions to have in America today read like something from bizarro world. If you just say criminals belong in prison and people should be entitled to keep what they earn and the government shouldnt be throwing thousand dollar bills at people to keep the least productive the most reproductive and pretend its all okay for a couple more years until Build Back Better causes our cou
[00:05]	DaemonFC	ntry to collapse, and youre in favor of the entire bill of rights, including the Second Amendment Thats what happens to you.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Theyve gotten so good at disappearing us using GAFAM, disappearing people who are still in our right minds, that we have to stake out a new frontier and break our old habits and let companies like Facebook turn completely into an echo chamber full of crazy people with distorted thought patterns and advertising bullshit.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Ive already started my divorce from GAFAM. Im not replacing my Android phone when it fails, with another Android. Ill be getting one that runs GNU/Linux.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	I dont care about apps. Theyre dumb.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Did you know that there are 7 tracking libraries now in the text messaging app on a Samsung Galaxy phone. One of them even contacts Facebook. Even if you dont use Facebook!
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Tracker Control neuters them. But this has to be a stop gap."
[00:06]	schestowitz	ah, weiwei
[00:06]	schestowitz	yes, he spoke about "woke" culture
[00:06]	schestowitz	which I think relates to "cancel"
[00:06]	schestowitz	a term made up (I think) by the right
[00:06]	schestowitz	when they canceled and deplatformed speakers
[00:06]	schestowitz	weiwei was never big in western media
[00:06]	schestowitz	in fact, I saw weiwei mentioned in the media the other day
[00:07]	schestowitz	they did not 'disappear' him
[00:07]	schestowitz	his friend appelbaum disappeared
[00:07]	DaemonFC	By associating normality with racism and transphobia or whatever, like mjg59 does, they can make anything crimethink.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	No matter how correct it is, even if there's nothing of the sort going on.
[00:07]	schestowitz	weiwei is cool
[00:07]	schestowitz	I like weiwei
[00:08]	DaemonFC	mjg59 is one of those fucking idiots who lives in a liberal city to let his freak flag fly.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	And those are the sorts that are the reason your sister dislikes Portland. Except that mjg59 is probably too smart to ever go get himself arrested.
[00:08]	schestowitz	you don't need to provoke him
[00:08]	schestowitz	you want to
[00:08]	schestowitz	but let's focus on issues
[00:08]	DaemonFC	He'll just egg on people who are dumber than he is. He'll use child molesters and the mentally ill as muscle.
[00:09]	schestowitz	my nieces are miserable
[00:09]	schestowitz	they hate the places
[00:09]	schestowitz	*place
[00:11]	DaemonFC	I can imagine.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	Why the hell did she pick that shithole?
[00:11]	schestowitz	almost as bad as where you are
[00:11]	DaemonFC	Anything on the left coast is wrong.
[00:11]	schestowitz	you keep misusing that label
[00:11]	schestowitz	"left"
[00:11]	schestowitz	while you vote Biden
[00:12]	DaemonFC	She should move somewhere where they don't tolerate crime and pander to the criminals and get more of it.
[00:12]	kingoffrance	that place doesnt exist
[00:12]	kingoffrance	not in this world
[00:12]	kingoffrance	heaven on earth is "leftist" idea
[00:12]	DaemonFC	Well, the jury in Wisconsin didn't go along with that bullshit.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	Did they?
[00:12]	kingoffrance	america was always "leftist" like that
[00:12]	kingoffrance	its always been bs DaemonFC 
[00:12]	kingoffrance	from day noe
[00:12]	kingoffrance	*one
[00:13]	DaemonFC	Maybe the rioters will stay home and circle jerk each other next time instead of coming out to burn cars and stuff.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	They're losers. They have nothing. They are nothing. That's why all three men he shot are pedos, drunk drivers, wife beaters, etc.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	Not one of them deserves life.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Not even life in prison.
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[00:14]	DaemonFC	Yet they were out causing more problems, weren't they?
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[00:14]	kingoffrance	why do you assume that is the "left" doing?  thats the churches
[00:14]	kingoffrance	are churches left or right?
[00:14]	kingoffrance	grace versus law
[00:14]	kingoffrance	america wont ever pick
[00:14]	DaemonFC	I didn't see any church people out burning cars.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Oddly....
[00:16]	kingoffrance	churches have always been where "criminals" hide. that was pagan rome too
[00:16]	kingoffrance	this is centuries old, you are missing centuries of history for some imagianry "left v right" nonsense, made up as the new "enlightenment" religion
[00:16]	kingoffrance	these are all ancient issues
[00:16]	kingoffrance	they will never go away
[00:17]	kingoffrance	thats the definition of a church; outside the law
[00:18]	kingoffrance	america KEPT this
[00:22]	kingoffrance	if you want to say churches are "woke" i wont disagree
[00:23]	DaemonFC	The SPLC may well have started out with good intentions. I'm certainly not going to argue that fighting of the actual Klan is bad, but like most things liberal, they have to paint everything that's not them as the Klan, including just normal every day decent folks who are trying to raise their kids with some morality.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	"It is perhaps ironic that a lot of kids couldn't use proprietary GAFAM software if they wanted to because it's being blocked due to SPLC's recommendations, and so Matrix is growing. One told me one one chatroom that their school's Great Firewall doesn't know what all of the domains are on which you can use Matrix."
[00:24]	DaemonFC	That sounds better.
[00:24]	kingoffrance	i dont think i have anymore more to say, but come to -social if you wish
[00:27]	DaemonFC	"The SPLC has to lie through its teeth and accuse platforms that are not GAFAM of being pedophile strongholds."
[00:27]	DaemonFC	"Just a few short years ago, Microsoft Bing was the preferred place for pedophiles to go. It didn't do anything at all to filter it. Bill Gates was on the plane with Epstein a lot, trying to buy himself a Nobel Prize. And there was Rick Allen Jones, a CP-hoarder that was literally arrested in the Gates Mansion."
[00:27]	DaemonFC	In at least one case, the police arrested a man and asked where he got it all, and he said BING. 
[00:29]	techrights-news	Donald Norwood & #Debian spamming users with #defamation and dirty politics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Donald Norwood & Debian spamming users with defamation and dirty politics | Tux Machines
[00:30]	techrights-news	Best #RaspberryPi Black Friday Deals for 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Raspberry Pi Black Friday Deals for 2021 | Tux Machines
[00:30]	techrights-news	#Servers and #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Servers and Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:30]	techrights-news	#Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158195 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[00:31]	techrights-news	#GPL and GNU #GIMP in the News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GPL and GNU GIMP in the News | Tux Machines
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[00:31]	techrights-news	#LibreOffice Introduction and Impress Guide 7.2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158197 #freesw #opendocument #odf #TuxMachines
[00:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Introduction and Impress Guide 7.2 | Tux Machines
[00:32]	DaemonFC	I'll hold this as a draft for a while. If it takes me a while to piece together, that's fine.
[00:32]	techrights-news	#FreeSoftware and #Sharing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158198 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software and Sharing | Tux Machines
[00:33]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Microsoft's online presence is in its death rattles.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	They're trying to cling to life by forcing their browser and Bing on anyone who installs Windows 11.
[00:33]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158199 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:33]	DaemonFC	This is not what a company in a position of strength would have to do.
[00:33]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158200 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[00:35]	DaemonFC	https://debian.community/donald-norwood-debian-spamming-users-defamation-dirty-politics/
[00:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debian.community | Donald Norwood & Debian spamming users with defamation and dirty politics
[00:35]	DaemonFC	"We don't know exactly how Norwood got this title"
[00:36]	DaemonFC	I can give you two guesses, but I don't think you'll need both of them.
[00:36]	techrights-news	Be on the right side of history, always, now the side of corporations and oligarchs. Usually those are opposites.
[00:37]	DaemonFC	Outreachy nearly bankrupted GNOME.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	It had to be bailed out by Red Hat or they wouldn't have been able to pay their bills THAT MONTH, they let things get so bad.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	Then they retconned it so that Outreachy wasn't the problem at all because of "earmarking" or something.
[00:38]	techrights-news	Links 20/11/2021: Unity Desktops Renaissance, Whisker Menu 2.7.0, and Wine 7.0 Code Freeze Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/wine-7-0-code-freeze/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/20/wine-7-0-code-freeze/
[00:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/11/2021: Unity Desktops Renaissance, Whisker Menu 2.7.0, and Wine 7.0 Code Freeze | Techrights
[00:38]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, nobody gets pissed off that male interns are expected to work for free while female ones get money because of their sex organs.
[00:40]	techrights-news	Sigh. We need LESS and FEWER cars, and EVs are NOT "green". Also, #apple is just a brand, which barely makes anything. The #sweatshops do all the work, polluting their neighbours to death https://carbuzz.com/news/apples-self-driving-electric-car-to-arrive-in-2025
[00:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Self-Driving Electric Car To Arrive In 2025 | CarBuzz
[00:41]	techrights-news	#watchtroll now spamming "Quantum Computing Takes Off"... no, not really. They've been saying it for over 2 decades and all they have to show is a pile of #patents ...
[00:42]	techrights-news	#watchtroll editor: " #Iancu , Locke and #Kappos Slam #Biden Administrations Support for COVID IP Waiver in New White Paper"... so they support killing people, millions of people, for #patent PROFITS. See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu and http://techrights.org/wiki/David_Kappos
[00:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrei Iancu - Techrights
[00:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | David Kappos - Techrights
[00:43]	techrights-news	#watchtroll has also just backed a #patentTrolls shill who subverted a Texan court system just for the same of profit. I'm omitting the link, as usual (this is the only site I'd not link to, due to its #patent extremism)
[00:45]	techrights-news	A quarter of the time these days #watchtrolls is just marketing spam, e.g. "The [redacted] Companies is seeking a Patent Agent for its Design Practice." #patent #patents #spamAsNews
[00:47]	techrights-news	"The [redacted] Trademark, Copyright, Advertising and Media (T-CAM) Team is seeking an attorney to join its thriving Intellectual Property practice" -> yes, #watchtroll posting pure ads... as 'news'
[00:48]	techrights-news	"[redacted] is actively looking for someone to join their diverse team of talents." Let me correct myself; maybe a third, not a quarter, of #watchtroll posts are just spam. See http://techrights.org/wiki/Watchtroll
[00:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights
[00:49]	techrights-news	" #Google Wins Transfer as #CAFC Continues Mandamus Spree Against Albright"... and even if you dislike #Gulag it is good news that corrupt courts that were subverted, intentionally, for profit... are losing their legitimacy and their "business"
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[00:55]	techrights-news	#Patent #litigation firms nefariously pushing #softwarepatents under the guise of "Hey Hi" https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1132342/sufficiency-of-disclosure-for-artificial-intelligence-patents-us-case-example #swpats
[00:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Sufficiency Of Disclosure For Artificial Intelligence Patents U.S. Case Example - Intellectual Property - United States
[00:57]	techrights-news	There's no such thing as "IP" and those 'things' aren't rights, either... "IP rights, among other fundamental human rights" Wait, WHAT??? You compare #patent #monopolies to "fundamental human rights"??? Insane!! https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=413991de-7086-4494-85fd-5d8e9ebb5b4b
[00:57]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=413991de-7086-4494-85fd-5d8e9ebb5b4b
[00:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent prosecution in Russia - Lexology
[00:59]	techrights-news	#EPO illegally conducts #patent hearings, having corrupted a tribunals to pretend it is OK https://www.bereskinparr.com//doc/-can-you-hear-me-zoom-fatigue-hits-the-epo details in http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
[00:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bereskinparr.com | CAN YOU HEAR ME?: ZOOM Fatigue Hits the EPO: Bereskin & Parr LLP
[00:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
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[01:02]	techrights-news	Wait until #Japan finds out that #EPO leaks all #patent data to #Microsoft and the #NSA , clearly in violation of the law https://www.iam-media.com/market-developments/japan-ruling-party-backs-secrecy-legislation-sensitive-patents see http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/
[01:02]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/market-developments/japan-ruling-party-backs-secrecy-legislation-sensitive-patents
[01:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Japan ruling party to back secrecy legislation for sensitive patents | IAM
[01:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights
[01:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, "Common Core is nothing more than an attack on public education by billionaires who should be in prison. One of the other promoters is Mark Zuckerberg. Many, many parents are appalled at the dumbing down of their kids, and parents with a choice take their kids out of failing schools like the ones in Chicago which are a toxic hell stew of political correctness, gangs, drugs, guns, and fat cat public union bosses growing a big fat 
[01:05]	DaemonFC	pension. They demand school choice vouchers, which is the entire point, because then big business can just run those directly if you want your kids to have any hope at all."
[01:05]	techrights-news	#Microsoft #GitHub Expos Part VII will be released on Monday
[01:06]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: it's mainly Bill gates
[01:06]	schestowitz	among others
[01:06]	schestowitz	Zuckerberg is small time
[01:06]	DaemonFC	Yes, but SPLC attacked his critics on that too.
[01:06]	schestowitz	not sure why they don't name the famous criminal
[01:06]	DaemonFC	They attack his critics a lot and lump them in with Alex Jones.
[01:07]	DaemonFC	I'm putting that in along with "I wonder why they didn't ever warn about Microsoft Bing, the biggest source of child sexual abuse material on the Internet until very recently, and default in Windows."
[01:08]	DaemonFC	How's "I don't care about "apps". They're dumb. They're put there to control people and spy on them by companies who ruined the Web and yet still think its users have too much freedom."
[01:09]	DaemonFC	"Those companies, including Apple (which fundraises for SPLC), can pay off SPLC through slush funds and proxies to help their assault on your alternatives."
[01:11]	schestowitz	so they can weaponise racism and classism
[01:11]	schestowitz	for corporate interests
[01:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I'm giving this article a good nip/tuck before I'm ready to post for comments.
[01:14]	DaemonFC	"Oddly, the library where I live lets Tor function normally even though their firewall blocks the site. I won't tell here which library because I don't want to give these jackbooted library thugs(?) any ideas about how to screw around with me if they're not smart enough to do that already and happen to find this post in Google or something."
[01:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, "Oddly, in Chicago, the city itself, the library doesn't even block porn. If people are watching it and you complain, they will help you move to another computer, but they won't stop that other person unless they start playing with themselves or something."
[01:16]	DaemonFC	"Life in a big liberal city...."
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Better, "(Life in a big liberal city....It's just disgusting everywhere you go. Disgusting, expensive, cramped, polluted, riots breaking out unpredictably. Did I mention expensive?)"
[01:23]	psydruid	> schestowitz, Microsoft's online presence is in its death rattles.
[01:23]	psydruid	> They're trying to cling to life by forcing their browser and Bing on anyone who installs Windows 11.
[01:23]	psydruid	I expect their market share in the US to drop below 50% in the next few years. This also explains Intel messaging around Alder Lake and successors such as Rocket Lake and Meteor Lake, as they see sales of machines with their chips drying up
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[01:27]	techrights-news	Martn Abente Lahaye: Flatseal 1.7.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158201 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Martn Abente Lahaye: Flatseal 1.7.5 | Tux Machines
[01:30]	schestowitz	psydruid: it's hard to get decent-priced PCs
[01:30]	schestowitz	hours ago rianna said she wanted to check second-hand ones
[01:30]	schestowitz	I told her, they now put them inside cabinets
[01:31]	schestowitz	in the store we bought a couple from
[01:31]	schestowitz	so you cannot even try what you buy
[01:31]	schestowitz	I don't think it is related to corona and sanitation
[01:31]	schestowitz	it's just that it's limited in terms of supply
[01:31]	schestowitz	and high in demand
[01:31]	schestowitz	so they put out other sorts of items, which suck
[01:32]	schestowitz	I went there like 10 times in a row, came back empty-handed 
[01:32]	schestowitz	even the second-hand market is drying up
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[01:36]	techrights-news	#merkel and his #panda diplomacy in #berlin https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-germany-may-have-been-naive-china-first-merkel-says-2021-11-17/
[01:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EXCLUSIVE Germany may have been naive on China at first, Merkel says | Reuters
[01:37]	techrights-news	IT IS NOT EVEN APPROVED YET! But they already sign deals. "don't worry, we have fda in our back pockets, lols!" https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
[01:37]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
[01:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Pfizer seeks FDA approval for covid-19 pill regimen, strikes global manufacturing deal - The Washington Post
[01:38]	techrights-news	Well, #lexology increasingly resorts to paywall, so I guess it is failing financially. #patent #propaganda #patents #monopoly
[01:39]	psydruid	schestowitz, I said this earlier this year, new x86 hardware is getting prohibitively expensive and old x86 hardware is getting scarce to the point that ARM SBCs with good specs are about the cheapest thing you can buy
[01:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/tor-browser-launcher-on-debian-is-broken-theres-other-ways-to-get-it-the-splc-censorship-regime-hates-tor-and-foss-and-boosts-bill-gates/
[01:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Tor Browser Launcher on Debian is broken. Theres other ways to get it. The SPLC censorship regime hates Tor and FOSS, and boosts Bill Gates. BaronHK's Rants
[01:41]	DaemonFC	Spotted and fixed a typo already. :P
[01:43]		*schestowitz checks
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[01:44]	DaemonFC	Need to fix one thing I just saw.
[01:46]	DaemonFC	And another.
[01:46]	schestowitz	"Oddly enough, Facebook was on SPLCs list of platforms of concern, but I think its mostly to call for more censorship than there already is."
[01:46]	schestowitz	yes, exactly
[01:46]	schestowitz	they always want that
[01:46]	schestowitz	but..
[01:46]	schestowitz	WHOSE?
[01:46]	schestowitz	theirs
[01:46]	schestowitz	"our censorship is good"
[01:47]	schestowitz	theirs is bad
[01:47]	schestowitz	don't ban islamists
[01:47]	schestowitz	ban their critics
[01:47]	schestowitz	or:
[01:47]	schestowitz	trump needs to be removed
[01:47]	schestowitz	but not taliban
[01:47]	schestowitz	that kind of thing
[01:49]	schestowitz	I wanted to correct a factual point while reading but did not take note and forget it
[01:49]	schestowitz	let me do a second pass...
[01:49]	schestowitz	*forgot it
[01:50]	schestowitz	second paragraph you miss a closing ")"
[01:52]	schestowitz	ah, yes
[01:52]	schestowitz	Signal is not proprietary
[01:52]	schestowitz	but there are other issues with it
[01:52]	schestowitz	inc. lack of source code disclosure for about a year... than a useless code dump
[01:53]	schestowitz	in case you amend anything, I'll leave this as is for another 10 mins
[01:54]	schestowitz	I do want to mirror it, the language is not awfully political
[01:55]	DaemonFC	I didn't want it to be terribly political, but it kind of has to be due to the political alignment of the attackers.
[01:55]	techrights-news	#TLGS search engine continues to grow, I see gemini://tlgs.one/statistics grew since I wrote about it in http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/firefox-and-totally-legit-gemini-search-tlgs/
[01:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Totally Legit Gemini Search (TLGS), a Search Provider Just Announced for Gemini Space, Will Help Move More of Us Off the World Wide Web | Techrights
[01:56]	DaemonFC	There absolutely are a lot of billionaires fanning on these riots.
[01:57]	techrights-news	"There are 1788 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1457 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi Maybe 1800+ by end of Sunday
[01:57]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: media and social control media
[01:57]	DaemonFC	I just removed the parenthesis completely. It was a long thought.
[01:57]	schestowitz	it divides society and creates racial conflicts
[01:57]	schestowitz	the riots are NOT about class injustice
[01:57]	schestowitz	but about things like race
[01:58]	schestowitz	but never mind this
[01:58]	schestowitz	I'll refresh the page in a bit
[01:58]	DaemonFC	Newsweek, which is pretty far-right, said that the January 6th riot should have been shut down hard and fast by the police.
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[01:59]	DaemonFC	The government could have shut it down.
[01:59]	DaemonFC	It didn't want to.
[01:59]	DaemonFC	It wanted to put it all over the "news" and justify more laws and more powers.
● Nov 21
[02:00]	DaemonFC	It's cheap to clean up a mess and a few broken windows. They've spent more, like two buildings and part of the Pentagon, to get the same kind of laws and powers.
[02:00]	DaemonFC	So "let it happen".
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[02:08]	DaemonFC	"According to Stephen Rosen, the GFW is reflective of the Chinese government's fear of civil disobedience or rebellion among the Chinese population against the Chinese Communist Party's rule:
[02:08]	DaemonFC	If you want to know what people are worried about look at what they spend their money on. If youre afraid of burglars you buy a burglar alarm. What are the Chinese spending their money on? Were told from Chinese figures theyre spending on the People's Armed Police, the internal security force is about as big as theyre spending on the regular military. This whole great firewall of China, this whole massive effort to cont
[02:08]	DaemonFC	rol the internet, this effort to use modern information technology not to disseminate information, empowering individuals, but to make people think what you want them to think and to monitor their behavior so that you can isolate and suppress them. Thats because this is a regime which is fundamentally afraid of its own people. And its fundamentally hostile to them."
[02:08]	DaemonFC	The US government behaves this way with the DHS and all that crap.
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[02:11]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/azure-googlebombing/
[02:11]	schestowitz	thoughts?
[02:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Rebrand GNU/Linux as Azure to Make It Sound Like Microsoft is Suddenly Relevant in HPC | Techrights
[02:11]	DaemonFC	I commented on this elsewhere. They run into a scheduling disaster on Windows with a consumer CPU with 8 cores.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	Of course they're not running Windows on supercomputers.
[02:16]	techrights-news	They Rebrand GNU/Linux as Azure to Make It Sound Like #Microsoft is Suddenly Relevant in HPC Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/azure-googlebombing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/20/azure-googlebombing/
[02:19]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: <a href="#top"></a>
[02:19]	schestowitz	oops
[02:19]	schestowitz	github.micahflee
[02:20]	schestowitz	microsoft.cancelculture 
[02:20]	schestowitz	or microsoft.omidyar
[02:21]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I'm not wild about KDE dependencies on that either, but meh.
[02:23]	techrights-news	#TorBrowser Launcher on Debian is Broken and SPLC Censorship Regime Hates Tor and FOSS, Boosts Bill Gates Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/splc-censorship-regime/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/20/splc-censorship-regime/
[02:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tor Browser Launcher on Debian is Broken and SPLC Censorship Regime Hates Tor and FOSS, Boosts Bill Gates | Techrights
[02:23]	DaemonFC	https://onionshare.org/
[02:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-onionshare.org | OnionShare
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Sweet!
[02:27]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158202 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[02:31]	techrights-news	Tidying up #techrights wiki in recent days http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201121.html#tNov%2020%2009:08:07
[02:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:34]	techrights-news	" #DeutscheTelekom plans to outsource core business", this is how i would translate it. http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201121.html#tNov%2020%2004:18:34
[02:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:35]	techrights-news	Latest in #upc is, #teamUPC knows that it is lying, but still trying to cover its own behind to avoid getting slapped by ombudsman (or similar) http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201121.html#tNov%2020%2010:34:00
[02:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:37]	techrights-news	 techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-201121.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-201121.txt
[02:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:37]	techrights-news	"Oddly, Matrix has a lot of kids on it because the grown ups at the school blocked "Skype" and "Facebook" and that ought to be enough, right?" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201121.html#tNov%2020%2023:47:09
[02:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:38]	techrights-news	 techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-201121.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-201121.txt
[02:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:39]	techrights-news	 boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-201121.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-201121.txt
[02:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:40]	techrights-news	 techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201121.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-201121.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-201121.txt
[02:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, November 20, 2021
[02:43]	techrights-news	 Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-11-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-11-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:46]	techrights-news	"It downloads the #TorBrowser , verifies that its properly signed, so you dont get a fake one planted on your computer, which is a possibility if you went to the wrong Web site or were the victim of a #MITM attack, somehow, and then puts launchers and a settings application in your menus." http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/splc-censorship-regime/
[02:47]	techrights-news	Although weve omitted all those spammy links (not included in Daily Links, either), it is clear that #Microsoft has a new #googlebombing ploy http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/azure-googlebombing/ #gnu #linux #azure
[02:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Rebrand GNU/Linux as Azure to Make It Sound Like Microsoft is Suddenly Relevant in HPC | Techrights
[02:47]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/movie
[02:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Movie
[02:50]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dam_Youth_Escort
[02:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Green Dam Youth Escort - Wikipedia
[02:50]	DaemonFC	"Satirical internet cartoon showing 'Green Dam Girl' wearing a river crab hat, and armed with a paintbrush"
[02:50]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dam_Youth_Escort#/media/File:Green_dam3.jpg
[02:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Green Dam Youth Escort - Wikipedia
[02:51]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemisms_for_Internet_censorship_in_China
[02:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Euphemisms for Internet censorship in China - Wikipedia
[02:51]	techrights-news	Quite a few new #irc networks were created after #freenode had collapse, e.g. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=H4x0red
[02:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[02:51]	DaemonFC	"River Crab" is a Chinese slang for internet censorship.
[02:52]	DaemonFC	Maybe we should call SPLC the River Crab Law Center.
[02:52]	techrights-news	Another relatively new #irc networks, dating back to the collapse of #freenode https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=FateChat
[02:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[02:54]	DaemonFC	Jinhui claimed that Green Dam recognized pornographic images by analyzing skin-coloured regions, complemented by human face recognition. However, according to a Southern Weekly article, the software is incapable of recognizing pictures of nudity featuring black- or red-skinned characters but sensitive enough to images with large patches of yellow that it censors promotional images of the film Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties. The article also 
[02:54]	DaemonFC	cited an expert saying that the software's misrecognition of "inappropriate contents" in applications including Microsoft Word can lead it to forcefully close those applications without notifying the user, thus cause data losses.[42] On 21 June 2009, Ming Pao reported that the software detected and censored pictures of Chinese political leaders as pornography.[43]
[02:54]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:54]	techrights-news	Many of the network shown in light blue here are relatively new, coming into view after #freenode collapsed https://netsplit.de/networks/
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[02:55]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The Communists figured out another way to make Microsoft Office crash and lose all of your data.
[02:55]		*DaemonFC claps slowly
[02:55]	MinceR	lol
[02:55]	techrights-news	Almost 100 new #irc networks since #freenode collapsed https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant
[02:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[02:56]	DaemonFC	"Also on 11 June 2009, a Netease article reported that the master password of the software could be easily cracked. The software stores the MD5 checksum of the password in a text file disguised as a DLL (C:\Windows\System32\kwpwf.dll), thus the password can be arbitrarily set by changing the contents of the file. This was ridiculed by some netizens as the software being crackable by "elementary school students"."
[02:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Also called the "Password went kwapwoof!" bug, I suppose.
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[02:58]	MinceR	lol
[02:58]	DaemonFC	"Hewlett-Packard and Dell were sent cease and desist letters by Solid Oak Software, asking them to respond by 24 June, having determined "without a doubt that Green Dam is indeed pirated, and using 100 percent of our code".[52]
[02:58]	DaemonFC	In January 2010, Cybersitter filed a $2.2 billion lawsuit against the PRC government and Jinhui Computer System Engineering charging that Green Dam Youth's developers had stolen more than 5,000 lines of code from Cybersitter.[53]
[02:58]	DaemonFC	In December 2010, a California court denied a motion to have the suit dropped. The motion was filed by Sony, Acer, BenQ and Asustek, who were named as defendants in a list that also includes Chinese PC makers Lenovo and Haier.[54][55][56]"
[02:58]	MinceR	microsoft "security" as usual
[02:58]	DaemonFC	MinceR, This is really good stuff.
[02:58]	MinceR	like when they embedded the same private key in all copies of a DLL used by RDP
[02:58]	DaemonFC	I need to read Wikipedia articles about China more often.
[02:59]	MinceR	this is the sort of "security" uefi was meant to lock you into. for your own good.
[02:59]	DaemonFC	"The Beijing Times reported that Beijing Dazheng Human Language Technology Academy had closed the office for the Green Dam project and up to 30 IT engineers were made redundant, and that co-developer Zhengzhou Jinhui Computer System Engineering, would soon run into financial difficulties through lack of funding. However, Dazheng said it had been forced to downsize (and not shut) the Green Dam unit due to financial constraints.[8]
[02:59]	DaemonFC	Dazheng's general manager said his company received 19.9 million yuan in the first year and had not received payment since,[8] and that its commitment to providing support and updates for the product was costing 7 million yuan annually. Critics said the lack of transparency in the funding cut cast the Ministry in a bad light.[57] "
● Nov 21
[03:00]	DaemonFC	Lack of transparency in the funding of software designed to spy on children and censor their web access on behalf of the Communist Party of China casts it in a bad light?
[03:00]	DaemonFC	Oh, well, okay then.
[03:00]	MinceR	:>
[03:02]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I should totally lampoon Matthew Garrett.
[03:02]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: why are fonts in librewolf so ugly sometimes?
[03:02]	DaemonFC	That image of him on Wikipedia.
[03:02]	schestowitz	it's not coz it does not download some off the web
[03:02]	schestowitz	because in my site too it happens and I don't ship fonts
[03:03]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, There's a hack. Firefox 94 in Flatpak bug.
[03:03]	DaemonFC	Mozilla upstream ignored it for years now.
[03:04]	schestowitz	I can force it to always use my font of choice
[03:04]	schestowitz	but that leads to presentational issues
[03:04]	DaemonFC	https://pastebin.com/E3Qvm8PF
[03:04]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: pastebin.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pastebin.com/E3Qvm8PF
[03:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-<?xml version='1.0'?><!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'><fontconfig> - Pastebin.com
[03:06]	DaemonFC	Put that in .var/app/io.gitlab.librewolf-community/config/fontconfig/fonts.conf
[03:06]	DaemonFC	Then close and reopen the browser.
[03:12]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: solved, thanks!
[03:17]	DaemonFC	Yep. Another bug Mozilla ignores.
[03:17]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:19]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 Gemini requests since start of month:   313706 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38143    Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 1 months 11 days ago
[03:20]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.  TotalIn: 84 GB    TotalOut: 26 GB
[03:21]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:28]	techrights-news	How to fake values of companies and oligarchs: use #covid19 as an excuse to lower interest rates down to zero, leaving people tempted into speculations in the stock market, basically tying the little wealth they have to a financial bubble... until it implodes
[03:29]	techrights-ipfs-bot	QmeDHFuwxMuWGXnXY8ELJ4X5fk6wWvRiyFNXRQ9noLwTQw
[03:30]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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[03:30]	techrights-news	When corporations are done faking, buying back their own shares and speculating with money they don't really have they'll try to seduce what's left of the middle class to (essentially) lend them money or borrow money in the form of national debt, passing the loaned money to fake, bogus "job creators" (tax evaders)
[03:32]	techrights-news	Now #famouscriminal #billgates (and his mates) is after grandma's house... don't worry, it's for 'charity' http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique
[03:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
[03:33]	techrights-news	Cheating A Pedometer The Easy Way | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/20/cheating-a-pedometer-the-easy-way/ Speaking of Pedometers... http://techrights.org/2012/06/19/pedometers/
[03:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cheating A Pedometer The Easy Way | Hackaday
[03:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Billions for Indoctrinating Children | Techrights
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[05:35]	kingoffrance	"They demand school choice vouchers, which is the entire point, because then big business can just run those directly if you want your kids to have any hope at all."" lol  yes that says it all
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[08:15]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, November 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[08:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[08:15]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[08:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[08:18]	techrights-news	 NEWS #FOSSForce Tuxs Favorite Recipes: Enticing Snippets from the New Linux Cookbook, 2nd Edition https://fossforce.com/2021/11/tuxs-favorite-recipes-enticing-snippets-from-the-new-linux-cookbook-2nd-edition/
[08:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Tux's Favorite Recipes: Enticing Snippets from the New 'Linux Cookbook, 2nd Edition' - FOSS Force
[08:18]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BoilingSteam I Love Arch, But GNU Guix Is My New Distro https://boilingsteam.com/i-love-arch-but-gnu-guix-is-my-new-distro/
[08:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | I Love Arch, But GNU Guix Is My New Distro - Boiling Steam
[08:19]	techrights-news	 NEWS #XueYao #OpenHardware T700 Crowdfunding https://www.xyte.ch/t700-crowdfunding/
[08:19]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: xyte.ch | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xyte.ch/t700-crowdfunding/
[08:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.xyte.ch/t700-crowdfunding/ )
[08:20]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BoilingSteam Mastodon VS Twitter https://boilingsteam.com/mastodon-vs-twitter/
[08:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Mastodon VS Twitter - Boiling Steam
[08:21]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Education Rethink time needed for online teaching, universities urged https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/rethink-time-needed-online-teaching-universities-urged
[08:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Rethink time needed for online teaching, universities urged | Times Higher Education (THE)
[08:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NotebookCheck #Hardware MediaTek's Pentonic 2000 chipset is here to help deliver the 8K 120Hz TVs of the future https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-s-Pentonic-2000-chipset-is-here-to-help-deliver-the-8K-120Hz-TVs-of-the-future.580439.0.html
[08:22]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-s-Pentonic-2000-chipset-is-here-to-help-deliver-the-8K-120Hz-TVs-of-the-future.580439.0.html
[08:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MediaTek's Pentonic 2000 chipset is here to help deliver the 8K 120Hz TVs of the future - NotebookCheck.net News
[08:22]	techrights-news	 NEWS #PRNewswire #Hardware MediaTek Announces New Pentonic Smart TV Family with New Pentonic 2000 for Flagship 8K 120Hz TVs https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mediatek-announces-new-pentonic-smart-tv-family-with-new-pentonic-2000-for-flagship-8k-120hz-tvs-301428273.html
[08:22]		-altlink_b6f/#techrights- Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mediatek-announces-new-pentonic-smart-tv-family-with-new-pentonic-2000-for-flagship-8k-120hz-tvs-301428273.html
[08:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | MediaTek Announces New Pentonic Smart TV Family with New Pentonic 2000 for Flagship 8K 120Hz TVs
[08:26]	techrights-news	#Distrowatch Top 5 Distributions Review: #PopOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158203 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Distrowatch Top 5 Distributions Review: Pop!_OS | Tux Machines
[08:26]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.45   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.46 swarm size (avg): 259.72  
[08:26]	techrights-news	#KDE Plasma Introduces GNOME-like Overview. Is it Good? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158204 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma Introduces GNOME-like Overview. Is it Good? | Tux Machines
[08:26]	techrights-news	4 open source ways to create holiday greetings Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158205 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 open source ways to create holiday greetings | Tux Machines
[08:26]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware #Apple just provided the perfect example of why you cant trust App Store review scores https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22791968/apple-podcasts-star-score-review-prompt
[08:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple just provided the perfect example of why you cant trust App Store review scores - The Verge
[08:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware More than $500M for cybersecurity included in sweeping House-passed package https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/582414-over-500-million-for-cybersecurity-included-in-house-passed-build-back
[08:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More than $500M for cybersecurity included in sweeping House-passed package | TheHill
[08:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DeccanHerald #ProprietarySoftware Malware alert: Dozen plus Joker trojan-laced Android apps detected on Play Store https://www.deccanherald.com/business/technology/malware-alert-dozen-plus-joker-trojan-laced-android-apps-detected-on-play-store-1052830.html
[08:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deccanherald.com | Malware alert: Dozen plus Joker trojan-laced Android apps detected on Play Store | Deccan Herald
[08:31]	techrights-news	My #manchester #nhs complaint has now progressed, but it's like #covid19 has basically paralysed much of the system and there's almost nobody to complain to.
[08:31]	techrights-news	vulpes gemini -> https proxy has been done for nearly 4 weeks already. #geminiProtocol #geminiSpace
[08:38]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Hackaday #Energy C Is The Greenest Programming Language https://hackaday.com/2021/11/18/c-is-the-greenest-programming-language/
[08:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-C Is The Greenest Programming Language | Hackaday
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[08:46]	techrights-news	#techtimes completely misses that you can write macros in #python or #javascript instead https://www.techtimes.com/articles/268113/20211117/microsoft-office-vs-libreoffice-differences-similarities-more.htm
[08:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Microsoft Office vs. LibreOffice: Differences, Similarities and More | Tech Times
[08:52]	techrights-news	 NEWS #IntelliNews #Politics Czech #Pirateparty finally approves coalition agreement, opening door for new government https://www.intellinews.com/czech-pirate-party-finally-approves-coalition-agreement-opening-door-for-new-government-227317/
[08:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bne IntelliNews - Czech Pirate party finally approves coalition agreement, opening door for new government
[08:54]	techrights-news	Disney Acquires All Of Americas Children For $52 Billion https://www.theonion.com/disney-acquires-all-of-america-s-children-for-52-billi-1848076101 #theonion #satire
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[08:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Disney Acquires All Of Americas Children For $52 Billion
[08:57]	techrights-news	176: OBS vs Streamlabs, APT Patched, Steam for Linux, Retro Gaming, Mesa | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/2021/11/thisweekinlinux-176/ #TuxDigital #GNU #Linux
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-176: OBS vs Streamlabs, APT Patched, Steam for Linux, Retro Gaming, Mesa | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[08:58]	techrights-news	 NEWS #FOSSForce #Politics A German State Is Saying Goodbye Windows, Hello Linux https://fossforce.com/2021/11/a-german-state-is-saying-goodbye-windows-hello-linux/
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | A German State Is Saying Goodbye Windows, Hello Linux - FOSS Force
[08:58]	techrights-news	 NEWS #BBC #Disinformation #Misinformation #Facebook gives users 'more control' over news feed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59348915 #socialcontrolmedia
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Facebook gives users 'more control' over news feed - BBC News
● Nov 21
[09:00]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #MPA Obtains New Pirate Streaming Blocks, ACE Seizes More #IPTV Domains https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-obtains-new-pirate-streaming-blocks-ace-seizes-more-iptv-domains-211120/
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[09:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MPA Obtains New Pirate Streaming Blocks, ACE Seizes More IPTV Domains * TorrentFreak
[09:00]	techrights-news	Makulu Shift Beta 2 Preview and Release Date ! http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2021/11/21/makulu-shift-beta-2-preview-and-release-date/ "We Take a look at the Upcoming #MakuluLinux Shift Beta 2 which is Due soon, Changes, Fixes and new Features" #gnu #linux
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Makulu Shift Beta 2 Preview and Release Date ! MakuluLinux
[09:01]	techrights-news	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #Internet Bridging Africa's digital divide: The rise of community internet https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/bridging-africas-digital-divide-the-rise-of-community-internet/87793247 done 15 years ago: http://techrights.org/wiki/OLPC
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | community internet: Bridging Africa's digital divide: The rise of community internet, IT News, ET CIO
[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OLPC - Techrights
[09:02]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheVerge #Monopolies #antitrust #Google seeks recusal probe for incoming antitrust chief over Yelp and #Microsoft cases https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/19/22792308/google-seeks-block-doj-antitrust-chief-jonathan-kanter-yelp-microsoft-cases
[09:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Google seeks recusal probe for incoming antitrust chief over Yelp and Microsoft cases - The Verge
[09:02]	techrights-news	... #microsoft moles in #biden admin: "Most notably, Kanter represented Microsoft in a motion arguing against Googles acquisition of DoubleClick, which was eventually approved by regulators and was closed in 2008."
[09:03]	techrights-news	 NEWS #FOSSForce #>SoftwarePatents #swpats Bilibili: Another Chinese Company Joins the Open Invention Network https://fossforce.com/2021/11/bilibili-another-chinese-company-joins-the-open-invention-network/
[09:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Bilibili: Another Chinese Company Joins the Open Invention Network - FOSS Force
[09:06]	techrights-news	 #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 20, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/irc-log-201121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/irc-log-201121/
[09:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, November 20, 2021 | Techrights
[09:08]	techrights-news	Backend https://m.brokep.com/@peter/107302748750504496
[09:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.brokep.com | Peter Sunde Kolmisoppi: "It's not untrue." - Mastodon
[09:09]	techrights-news	"Pro-Russia and pro-China Czech President may refuse appointment of #Pirate Jan Lipavsky as Foreign Minister! Lipavsky criticizes i.e. the new embassy branch in Jerusalem and nuclear power plants with Russian and Chinese participation." https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107308506433020429
[09:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "Pro-Russia and pro-China Czech President may re" - chaos.social
[09:09]	techrights-news	"Equating "being innovative" and "having patents" is being intellectually lazy at best." https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/107308743960833108 #swpats #epo #patents #patent #monopoly
[09:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "Equating "being innovative" and "having patents" " - toot.liw.fi
[09:13]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TruthOut #patent #patents #monopolies #hoarding Moderna Vaccine Should Be For the People - Not Just Rich People https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-vaccine-should-be-for-the-people-not-just-rich-people/
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[09:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Moderna Vaccine Should Be For the People -- Not Just Rich People
[09:14]	schestowitz	            "The things our politicians (and, dutifully, our media) refer to as "Free Trade Agreements" (FTAs) have nothing to do with 'freeing' trade. They consist of hundreds or thousands of pages of *new* trade restrictions. They the antithesis of "FTAs"." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107301785704706708
[09:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "That last outburst was triggered by this: https:/" - Mastodon - NZOSS
[09:18]	techrights-news	"I'm not against trade regulation. I'm against calling trade regulations "FTAs" as if it was 'lowering barriers' for our country. As you point out, lowering barriers often ensures that the smaller, better regulated economy loses bigtime." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107301942133116101
[09:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "@icedquinn@blob.cat @dsfgs@activism.openworlds.in" - Mastodon - NZOSS
[09:20]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158206 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[09:28]	techrights-news	Setting up a motion activated light with #Sonoff Zigbee sensor and T2 WiFi switch - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/11/21/motion-activated-light-project-with-sonoff-zigbee-sensor-and-t2-wifi-light-switch/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
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[09:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Setting up a motion activated light with Sonoff Zigbee sensor and T2 WiFi switch - CNX Software
[09:31]	techrights-news	#patent #litigation fanatics and profiteers trying to alter the system around #patents not for the sake of science or the economy https://www.twobirds.com/en/news/articles/2021/hungary/hungary-to-shift-away-from-a-hard-bifurcation-system-in-patent-matters see http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/
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[09:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.twobirds.com | Hungary to shift away from a hard bifurcation system in patent matters Significant amendments to the Hungarian Patent Act on the horizon
[09:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | Techrights
● Nov 21
[10:38]	psydruid	https://dragonbox.de/en/minipcs-running-linux/phytium-d2000-armv8-mini-pc-preorder.html
[10:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dragonbox.de | Phytium D2000 ARMv8 Mini PC (Preorder)
[10:39]	psydruid	That seems like the closest to an ARM desktop you can buy in Europe other than SBCs or Honeycomb/Clearfog LX2K
[10:40]	psydruid	The Box86/Box64 developer uses one and gets a small cut from every system sold
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[11:00]		*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@jyjbjvwy82e8c.irc) has joined #techrights
[11:04]	techrights-news	Just ran past #mancity stadium twice. No masks, no distancing there. Even members of staff. Superspreader event for 'COVIDiots' who think everything is back to "normal"...
[11:06]	techrights-news	One problematic thing about US and Europe blasting #brazil over Amazonian territories is that US and Europe used to be vast forests; but they want to impose on Brazil being/remaining a jungle while they themselves build international banks and stuff. Double standards.
[11:06]	schestowitz	psydruid: there were some laptops you could buy
[11:06]	schestowitz	some are 'chrome'books
[11:06]	schestowitz	but you can get rid of chromeOS
[11:07]	psydruid	schestowitz, this looks like it's on the more powerful side of things
[11:07]	schestowitz	CPU-wise?
[11:08]	psydruid	there should be a lot more like this
[11:08]	schestowitz	depends on what you do
[11:08]	schestowitz	cnn.com is a resource hog
[11:08]	schestowitz	video processing also
[11:08]	schestowitz	games...
[11:08]	schestowitz	up until 2020 I never had a laptop with more than 2 core and 2gb of ram
[11:08]	schestowitz	and I'm proud of t
[11:09]	schestowitz	shows how much can be done with little
[11:09]	psydruid	I can live with my 50 SBC, but some people need more CPU power at times
[11:09]	schestowitz	until 2005 my PC had just 32MB of RAM
[11:09]	schestowitz	the one at work had 512MB
[11:09]	psydruid	I didn't have one until 2016, but that laptop should last me for many more years
[11:09]	schestowitz	then I bought a PC with 256MB of RAM to run KDE
[11:10]	psydruid	in 2012 I was still using a laptop with a Pentium III and 256 MB RAM
[11:10]	psydruid	but it died and then I just used the laptops from work until I got my own again in 2016
[11:10]	schestowitz	my raspi 4 has 4 cores at 600-1500mhz
[11:11]	schestowitz	ipfs uses the most of them
[11:12]	psydruid	my Orange Pi is weaker than that, but it has 2 GB of RAM
[11:12]	psydruid	and it still works fine for most things
[11:13]	psydruid	I think a lot more performance can be got out of it, if I run a leaner operating system on it
[11:16]	psydruid	But that's something for later, for now I'm sticking with Debian
[11:17]	techrights-news	#Patent #extremists at #IAM want us to think companies only begin to exist when they have #patents https://www.iam-media.com/non-practising-entities/chinese-semiconductor-upstart-steps-ip-spotlight-in-patent-licence-deal-xperi see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM
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[11:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Chinese semiconductor upstart steps into IP spotlight in patent licence deal with Xperi | IAM
[11:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights
[11:18]	techrights-news	Independent Media Sanctuary: Howie Hawkins at the #Climate Justice March https://howiehawkins.us/11-17-21-independent-media-sanctuary-howie-hawkins-at-the-climate-justice-march/
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[11:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | 11/17/21: Independent Media Sanctuary: Howie Hawkins at the Climate Justice March | Howie Hawkins for our Future
[11:19]	techrights-news	"The #FederalCircuit continued its stringent (if misguided) application of the scope of subject matter eligibility by invalidating claims asserted in CardioNet, LLC v. InfoBionic, Inc." More #fakepatents https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/11/cardionet-llc-v-infobionic-inc-fed-cir-2021.html #cafc #patents #uspto
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[11:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CardioNet, LLC v. InfoBionic, Inc. (Fed. Cir. 2021)
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[11:21]	techrights-news	Capital Public Radio News became so aggressive and hostile that it now uses a malicious company, #clownflare , to block connections that refuse to run #proprietarySoftware / #javascript ... #cloudflare is still 'cancer on the Web'...
[11:23]	DaemonFC	I doubt the GNU Hurd will ever be useful on off the shelf PCs.
[11:24]	techrights-news	They mean computer program, not "Hey Hi", but we're living in a generation of buzzwords, misnomers, and liars/lawyers looking to sell sinister agenda for profit https://blog.burges-salmon.com/post/102hba1/artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-inventorship-can-ai-be-an-inventor
[11:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.burges-salmon.com | Artificial Intelligence, Innovation and Inventorship Can AI be an Inventor?, David Varney
[11:24]	DaemonFC	They probably won't even write the interface to load proprietary firmware, and the hardware is so complex that nobody outside of Intel and AMD will ever figure THIS out now.
[11:25]	techrights-news	The company that presumes every person on Earth is a pedophile wants to start flying drones https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/apple-working-on-drone-device-new-patent-suggests/87710604 #apple #drones #patents
[11:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Apple drone: Apple working on drone device, new patent suggests, Telecom News, ET Telecom
[11:25]	DaemonFC	Pretty much all you can do is use a long term stable distribution like Debian so that when those fucking idiots what run Fedora today decide to remove support for your computer from five years ago, it doesn't affect you for a while.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	And I say fucking idiots. They're not actually idiots so much as they are villains.
[11:26]	DaemonFC	Because the reason those computers are being forced off a cliff is so DUMB.
[11:26]	DaemonFC	AVX... In many cases the software is as fast or faster with some version of SSE or even x87.
[11:27]	DaemonFC	The only thing forcing AVX even does for the average user if you build an entire distribution with it is kill their ability to run it on an older PC.
[11:27]	DaemonFC	It's just not an important feature to build an entire OS with.
[11:28]	techrights-news	This #EPO 'case' was rigged to the core, but #patent #litigation firms hardly care; they look away or turn a blind eye to #corruption and criminality if they can make a euro https://www.mathys-squire.com/insights-and-events/news/g-1-21-enlarged-board-considers-videoconferencing-inferior-to-in-person-hearings-but-not-unsuitable-for-oral-proceedings/ see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
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[11:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mathys-squire.com | G 1/21: Enlarged Board considers videoconferencing inferior to in-person hearings, but not unsuitable for oral proceedings - Mathys & Squire LLP
[11:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
[11:28]	DaemonFC	SSE 4.2 requirement is at least more reasonable.
[11:29]	DaemonFC	That should run on most computers back to 2008 and added some important things.
[11:30]	techrights-news	Does #Nicox care to understand that #patent quality at the #EPO collapsed and many newly-granted European #Patents are invalid wrt to the #EPC and thus worthless? https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/frances-nicox-gets-patent-for-blepharitis-product-candidate-ncx-4251-in-europe see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/
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[11:30]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: we won
[11:30]	schestowitz	not the football
[11:30]	schestowitz	the match started at 2pm
[11:30]	schestowitz	we won against coronavirus
[11:30]	schestowitz	nobody wears a mask
[11:31]	schestowitz	not even staff at the stadium, where we have just been
[11:31]	DaemonFC	Yeah, a lot of people here don't wear them anymore.
[11:31]	DaemonFC	It's required but the police don't do anything about it.
[11:31]	psydruid	GNU Hurd is a lost cause because of GNU Mach, which will never work outside of x86
[11:31]	DaemonFC	They barely do anything at all except write tickets.
[11:31]	schestowitz	Boris gave us brexit ("independence day") and covidiots ("freedom day")
[11:32]	psydruid	Even though Apple has done the work to port Mach to some other architectures
[11:32]	schestowitz	psydruid: how are they connected?
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[11:32]	schestowitz	just being icrokernels?
[11:32]	schestowitz	as if multiple ones cannot exist.. there are several others out there, but their brand recognition is poor
[11:32]	psydruid	schestowitz, they tried to move to other microkernels a few times, but it never worked out
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[11:34]	psydruid	I would have preferred that they moved to something more portable and maintainable, but it never materialised
[11:34]	techrights-news	The #FederalCircuit Bar Association (FCBA) fakes its association, looking to sound like it's something to do with #cafc while pushing #patent extremism https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/11/fcba-remote-program-on-ptab.html see #FCBA in http://techrights.org/2018/11/12/the-berkheimer-lie/
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[11:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: FCBA Remote Program on PTAB
[11:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Federal Circuit Bar Association (FCBA) Will Spread the Berkheimer Lie While Legal Certainty Associated With Patents Remains Low and Few Lawsuits Filed | Techrights
[11:35]	psydruid	I talked to youpi about it a few months ago and he considered even integrating Apple's Mach code prohibitive because the GNU Mach and Apple Mach codebases have diverged quite a bit
[11:36]	DaemonFC	You can't use something that effectively doesn't exist.
[11:36]	DaemonFC	Linux-Libre removes so much hardware support that it effectively does not exist for most people, like the Hurd.
[11:37]	psydruid	https://github.com/apple/darwin-xnu/tree/main/bsd
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-darwin-xnu/bsd at main apple/darwin-xnu GitHub
[11:37]	techrights-news	#Novartis and #EPO join forces to kill more women with breast #cancer in the name of profit http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/15/everolimus-breast-cancer-use-patent-considered-valid-in-preliminary-injunction-proceedings-in-italy-and-then-upheld-at-first-instance-in-the-epo/ see http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/
[11:37]	psydruid	it has arm and i386 directories
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Everolimus breast cancer use patent considered valid in preliminary injunction proceedings in Italy and then upheld at first instance in the EPO - Kluwer Patent Blog
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPOs Management Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights
[11:37]	techrights-news	#epo #patents and #cancer http://techrights.org/2019/02/06/bogus-european-patents-kill-cancer-patients-but-epo-still-has-the-audacity-to-ride-the-wave-of-world-cancer-day/
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bogus European Patents Kill Cancer Patients, But EPO Still Has the Audacity to Ride the Wave of World Cancer Day | Techrights
[11:37]	psydruid	ppc code should also be lingering somewhere
[11:37]	DaemonFC	Yeah, when I had a simpler computer I did run all kinds of things.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	At one point, Darwin and Solaris ran okay on some of my computers.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	Now they're all so complex that Linux kernels are about the only thing other than Windows that you're likely to boot and run okay.
[11:38]	schestowitz	even windows might struggle
[11:38]	schestowitz	esp. if not preloaded by OEM
[11:38]	schestowitz	and without WIndows Updates (yet)
[11:39]	DaemonFC	Intel and AMD pay Linux a lot of attention and if their stuff even runs at all on BSD it's because a lot of Linux code got ported over.
[11:39]	DaemonFC	Yes, updating to Windows 11 on a computer that came with Windows 10 can be a total disaster.
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[11:39]	DaemonFC	Especially if your OEM hasn't released a uEFI update that they actually tested Windows 11 on.
[11:39]	psydruid	I think we should go back to simpler (micro)kernels for ubiquitous hardware without so much of a consideration for supporting everything, as that is already being taken care of by Linux and the BSDs
[11:40]	techrights-news	KVM: x86/mmu: Overhaul TDP MMU zapping and flushing https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20211120045046.3940942-1-seanjc@google.com/ #kvm #linux #kernel
[11:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 00/28] KVM: x86/mmu: Overhaul TDP MMU zapping and flushing - Sean Christopherson
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[11:44]	psydruid	Windows 11 is leaving a lot of hardware behind, but even Windows 10 already did that by being such a bloated piece of junk
[11:45]	psydruid	So they are killing support for a lot of older hardware while people aren't buying that much new hardware
[11:46]	schestowitz	and there are hardware shortages
[11:46]	schestowitz	that works in our advantage
[11:46]	schestowitz	1) old hardware converted to GNU/Linux
[11:46]	schestowitz	2) windows machines more expensive
[11:47]	schestowitz	3) less adoption of vista11
[11:47]	schestowitz	4) windows hardware compatibility issues
[11:47]	schestowitz	I hope this shortage lasts a while
[11:47]	schestowitz	it hurts the most obese operation systems
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[11:48]	techrights-news	Announcing #Gluster release 10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158207 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #IBM
[11:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing Gluster release 10 | Tux Machines
[11:50]	schestowitz	Chinese Patents of very low quality get granted by the millions (over a million a year); its hard to know what theyre worth, if anything https://www.finnewsnetwork.com.au/companyreports/immutep/20211115/immutep-|||-chinese-patent-granted-for-efti-with-pd|||1-pathway-inhibitors
[11:50]	schestowitz	https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1572764/immutep-granted-chinese-patent-for-eftilagimod-alpha-a-soluble-lag3-fusion-protein-in-combination-with-a-pd1-pathway-inhibitor
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[11:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.finnewsnetwork.com.au | Immutep - Chinese Patent Granted for Efti with PD-1 Pathway Inhibitors | Finance News Network
[11:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Immutep Granted Chinese Patent - GuruFocus.com
[11:50]	psydruid	Microsoft is doing to itself what smaller UNIX vendors did to themselves
[11:50]	techrights-news	Chinese #Patents = nonsense https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/15/2334224/0/en/Immutep-Granted-Chinese-Patent-for-Eftilagimod-Alpha-a-Soluble-Lag-3-Fusion-Protein-in-Combination-with-a-PD-1-Pathway-Inhibitor.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/immutep-granted-chinese-patent-eftilagimod-130000800.html
[11:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Immutep Granted Chinese Patent for Eftilagimod Alpha, a
[11:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Immutep Granted Chinese Patent for Eftilagimod Alpha, a Soluble Lag-3 Fusion Protein, in Combination with a PD-1 Pathway Inhibitor
[11:51]	psydruid	That's the funniest thing in all of this and they can't help it, because without new hardware sales there won't be much in the way of new operating system licence sales
[11:53]	techrights-news	Suing using dubious #patents from a corrupt #patent office, cannot even type the headline right (sober?) https://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/hymmen-extends-patent-litigation-agaist-barberan http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO #Hymmen #Barberan
[11:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.woodworkingnetwork.com | Hymmen extends patent litigation agaist Barberan | Woodworking Network
[11:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights
[11:54]	schestowitz	[11:50] <psydruid> Microsoft is doing to itself what smaller UNIX vendors did to themselves
[11:54]	schestowitz	no, no, nooo!!!
[11:55]	schestowitz	You got it all wrong!
[11:55]	schestowitz	Microsoft is at the lead
[11:55]	schestowitz	[08:39] <schestowitz> x https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsofts-supercomputer-running-linux-among-10-fastest-machines/87793254
[11:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft: Microsoft's supercomputer running Linux among 10 fastest machines, IT News, ET CIO
[11:55]	schestowitz	Microsoft is winning HPC 
[11:55]	schestowitz	not Linux
[11:55]	psydruid	Oh, you're totally right!
[11:55]	schestowitz	Linux is Microsoft
[11:55]	schestowitz	Microsoft is Linux
[11:55]	schestowitz	Microsoft loves Linux
[11:55]	schestowitz	Microsoft owns Linux
[11:55]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/azure-googlebombing/
[11:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Rebrand GNU/Linux as Azure to Make It Sound Like Microsoft is Suddenly Relevant in HPC | Techrights
[11:55]	psydruid	How could I be so mistaken?
[11:56]	psydruid	Microsoft is showing me the right path once again
[11:57]	schestowitz	soon raspi will be just an IDE device
[11:57]	schestowitz	for azure/shithub/vs 'code'
[11:57]	schestowitz	totally open source
[11:57]	schestowitz	totally legit
[11:57]	schestowitz	wired up to packages dot microsoft dot com
[11:57]	schestowitz	the raspi foundation already has microsofters inside its board
[11:57]	schestowitz	they loooove linux
[11:58]	schestowitz	like Microsoft loved linux in munich
[11:58]	psydruid	That was enough reason not to buy a Raspberry Pi in 2017 and enough reason not to buy one now or in the future
[11:58]	schestowitz	they put their microsoft lovefest on the ice since March
[11:58]	schestowitz	I think they signed some contract a
[11:58]	schestowitz	and it included some puff pieces/blog posts
[11:58]	schestowitz	which they did
[11:58]	schestowitz	after silently injecting the malware
[11:58]	schestowitz	to millions of devices
[11:59]	SomeH4x0r	what if someone just wants a small computer to put some daemon on? Like I'm connected to an IRC server which runs on Raspberry Pi
[11:59]	schestowitz	after that I think they were so traumatised by the reaction from customers
[11:59]	schestowitz	so I hope they won't try this again
[11:59]	schestowitz	SomeH4x0r: raspi has tons of competition
● Nov 21
[12:00]	schestowitz	the other ones don't have the brand
[12:00]	schestowitz	many call themselves "pi" something
[12:00]	schestowitz	there's also nano and jetson
[12:00]	psydruid	It's a shame because it's a British company, but if I can trust hardware from China more to do the right thing, then I will go for that
[12:00]	schestowitz	it's made in wales
[12:00]	schestowitz	at least key components
[12:00]	schestowitz	I'd not worry about usb ports made in china
[12:01]	schestowitz	there is no firmware hidden in the ports themselves afaik
[12:01]	schestowitz	just in the controller/s
[12:01]	schestowitz	the sausage factory is the network module and processor
[12:02]	psydruid	running a proprietary NDA'ed Microsoft-infested firmware on  a board isn't my idea of freedom
[12:02]	psydruid	especially since they bought ThreadX
[12:02]	schestowitz	to fake importance
[12:03]	schestowitz	what do they get out of it
[12:03]	schestowitz	making false claims about "Azure"?
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[12:05]	psydruid	what is "Azure"?
[12:05]	psydruid	I've never seen this mythical thing called "Azure"
[12:05]	SomeH4x0r	some M$ hosting provider afaik
[12:06]	psydruid	is it the successor to Windows NT?
[12:06]	techrights-news	This article uses propaganda terms and lies like "intellectual property rights." [sic] https://www.mondaq.com/uk/trademark/1131718/exhaustion-in-the-uk-ip-law-under-review
[12:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Exhaustion In The UK: IP Law Under Review - Intellectual Property - UK
[12:08]	techrights-news	Interesting work, but they need to #deletegithub and not pass to racists and misogynists in #github all this work https://www.nature.com/articles/s41560-021-00931-5 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
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[12:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Global trends in the invention and diffusion of climate change mitigation technologies | Nature Energy
[12:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights
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[12:11]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/kenosha-shootings-observations-as-found-on-the-internet/
[12:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Kenosha shootings observations, as found on the Internet. BaronHK's Rants
[12:11]	techrights-news	Party over for the whacko from #Waco https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/11/mandamus-monday.html #patent courts aren't corporations and subverting the law in the interest of profit is in itself a violation of the #law
[12:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Mandamus Monday | Patently-O
[12:11]	DaemonFC	My favorite was actually Grosskreutz falling out of his chair and then like 30 seconds go by where he doesn't know what to do?
[12:11]	DaemonFC	Maybe he was drunk in Zoom Court. He drives drunk.
[12:12]	techrights-news	#patents are not rights, they are a monopoly, and in this case piggybacking work paid for by the taxpayers in order to rip off the public and actively harm public health https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/us/moderna-vaccine-patent.html
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[12:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Moderna and U.S. at Odds Over Vaccine Patent Rights - The New York Times
[12:15]	schestowitz	psydruid: it's like IBM with Kyndryl
[12:15]	schestowitz	https://www.businessinsider.com/kyndryl-microsoft-vmware-sap-partnership-with-former-ibm-consulting-services-2021-11?r=US&IR=T
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[12:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft, VMware, SAP Partnering With Former IBM Services Arm Kyndryl
[12:15]	schestowitz	Microsoft... SAP... IBM
[12:15]	schestowitz	the ol' gang
[12:15]	schestowitz	espionage
[12:16]	schestowitz	accounting trick
[12:16]	schestowitz	make a new entity
[12:16]	schestowitz	put all the buckets you don't like there
[12:16]	schestowitz	or only pass there the good ones
[12:16]	schestowitz	so you isolate the positive and negatives
[12:16]	schestowitz	and then focus only on fake 'growth' buckets
[12:16]	schestowitz	cannibalisation 
[12:17]	schestowitz	Is Office Online (or whatever brand.. 360) "Azure" yet? Just wait...
[12:17]	schestowitz	Maybe Windows 11 will be followed by Windows Azure
[12:17]	schestowitz	one more for the "Azure" Bucket
[12:17]	schestowitz	ThreadX.... "Azure"
[12:17]	schestowitz	buy company.. Azurewash it
[12:20]	DaemonFC	Windows Cloud PC.
[12:20]	techrights-news	is "made in Belarus" a strong brand?? http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/belarus-files-two-belarusian-pgis-for.html
[12:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Belarus files two Belarusian PGIs for protection in the EU, but with a wrinkle - The IPKat
[12:21]	DaemonFC	You can finally lease a Windows 11 instance. How awesome!
[12:21]	DaemonFC	Over 10 months, it costs more than a hell of a nice laptop.
[12:21]	DaemonFC	And Microsoft and the cops can look over your shoulder while you work in it!
[12:22]	DaemonFC	What is even the point of this, schestowitz?
[12:22]	DaemonFC	Like, who is the customer for this?
[12:22]	techrights-news	Propaganda site of #patent extremists continues to conflate #patents , many of which abstract and invalid, with "invents" or "innovates" https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-invents-122-patents-granted-for-week-of-nov-2/
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[12:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Dallas Invents: 122 Patents Granted forWeekofNov.2 Dallas Innovates
[12:24]	psydruid	NSA, CIA, Pentagon, White House, Biden, Think-tanks etc.
[12:24]	techrights-news	The #EPO quit caring about the #EPC a long time ago; it's just a rogue institution stealing money and gambling it away while the German government, which is complicit, turns a blind eye http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/17/patent-case-liftra-aps-epo/ see http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/violating-the-epc/
[12:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Liftra Aps, EPO - Kluwer Patent Blog
[12:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO is Still Violating the EPC Every Day | Techrights
[12:26]	techrights-news	Another example of JUVE #marketing #spam (for #patent #litigation company) disguised as reporting on #patents https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/french-pi-over-pemetrexed-confirmed-but-new-view-on-provisional-damages/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve
[12:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | French PI over pemetrexed confirmed, but new view on provisional damages - JUVE Patent
[12:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights
[12:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I doubt Biden will be re-elected.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	I mean it's certainly possible that we'll see a "Tea Party wipeout of 2010 followed by Obama hangs in there in 2012." repeat, but I wouldn't count on it.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	This economy is a dead cat bounce and with lots of inflation.
[12:28]	DaemonFC	People are not happy and are screaming "Fuck Joe Biden" at practically every event now. The media tried to cover it up with "Let's go, Brandon!" and accidentally started a meme where people mocked them with that.
[12:29]	DaemonFC	His approval rating dropped fast. I think a lot of that was that he praised a bunch of vaccines that hardly work at all and made it sound like we were about to be past this COVID shit, and now the CDC even admits it's going to be a bad winter.
[12:30]	DaemonFC	There's a sort of group psychology lesson in how unpopular presidents manage to get re-elected anyway.
[12:31]	DaemonFC	People know it's bad, but they've spent 4 years with a known factor at that point.
[12:34]	techrights-news	#7Zip 21.05 is out https://www.neowin.net/news/7-zip-2105/
[12:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | 7-Zip 21.05 - Neowin
[12:36]	techrights-news	Microsoft sites start to use the Munich mobbing again Microsoft sites start to use the Munich mobbing again #microsoft loves to attack #linux
[12:39]	techrights-news	Relaying #patent maximalism for #UKIPO https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vj23zhp68fgh/this-week-in-ip-pfizer-allows-covid-pill-copies-uspto-publishes-tma-rules-and-more see http://techrights.org/2021/10/10/epo-uk-ac-delegates/
[12:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: Pfizer allows COVID pill copies, USPTO publishes TMA rules, and more | Managing Intellectual Property
[12:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part VIII: Perfidious Albion and Pusillanimous Hibernia | Techrights
[12:42]	techrights-news	This is fake news; there is no "occasion of the expected start of the #UPC next year" and they know it; they keep lying, as they've done for nearly a decade. https://www.cohausz-florack.de/blog/artikel/unitary-patent-simultaneous-protection-in-de/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Unitary_Patent #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt
[12:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cohausz-florack.de | UNITARY PATENT - Simultaneous Protection in DE: COHAUSZ & FLORACK
[12:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unitary Patent - Techrights
[12:44]	techrights-news	Why would people wish to pay #patent lawyers who lie to them? #patents cost a lot of money and those #lawyers pocket most of that money; they actively misinform client and spread myths to perpetuate a bubble, which will burst one day (like #softwarepatents in the US)
[12:45]	techrights-news	More #fakepatents or #swpats : "The 526 #patent , directed to providing remote storage for wireless devices" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/15/synkloud-technologies-abandons-own-federal-circuit-appeal #ptab #cafc
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[12:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | SynKloud Technologies abandons own Federal Circuit appeal Unified Patents
[12:47]	schestowitz	[12:20] <DaemonFC> Windows Cloud PC.
[12:47]	schestowitz	One-Care
[12:47]	schestowitz	don't be a wanker
[12:47]	schestowitz	Buy OneCare
[12:47]	schestowitz	Microsoft will care for your Pee-See
[12:47]	schestowitz	updates and all
[12:47]	schestowitz	it'll even help you choose the "right" browser
[12:48]	schestowitz	[12:31] <DaemonFC> People know it's bad, but they've spent 4 years with a known factor at that point.
[12:48]	schestowitz	he began his term 10 months ago
[12:48]	DaemonFC	Search for Firefox, get an infobox for Microsoft Edge, complete with the Wikipedia article that Microsoft wrote for it.
[12:48]	schestowitz	he has 38 months to go
[12:49]	schestowitz	[08:40] <techrights-news> Kamala Harris: First woman to get US presidential powers (briefly) - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59352170 #bbc
[12:49]	DaemonFC	I mean, in the past bad presidents held on with approval ratings like this.
[12:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Kamala Harris: First woman to get US presidential powers (briefly) - BBC News
[12:49]	DaemonFC	Lower than Trump's, even.
[12:49]	DaemonFC	National approval numbers don't mean anything, obviously.
[12:49]	schestowitz	when are they comparing
[12:49]	schestowitz	and what?
[12:49]	schestowitz	Trump 2017 to Biden 2021?
[12:49]	DaemonFC	It doesn't matter how badly you lose or how many votes you can get in a particular state.
[12:49]	schestowitz	2017 had no pandemic
[12:50]	DaemonFC	That state is worth a number of electoral votes.
[12:50]	DaemonFC	This is why candidates don't campaign in Illinois.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	They do a poll, it shows that Biden gets 60%. No reason for either one of them to come talk to us.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	They go off to Wisconsin.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	So you basically end up with presidents who only care what their numbers are in like 5-6 states out of the country.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	And that's the main problem with an electoral college.
[12:52]	schestowitz	yes
[12:53]	DaemonFC	They don't want rid of it because in this system they know exactly where they need to go campaign at without flying all over the place wondering where they should spend money and time.
[12:53]	DaemonFC	Then they start moving mountains to unleash pork spending and stuff in those 5-6 states.
[12:54]	DaemonFC	So they get the benefit of being very on the fence about who to vote for because the sitting president knows you need to dump money and jobs into those states.
[12:54]	DaemonFC	They don't care what unemployment in Illinois is, or whether crime in Chicago is terrible.
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[12:55]	DaemonFC	I guarantee you those DoJ grants for more police officers go to like 5 states, if that.
[12:55]	DaemonFC	Chicago has lost about 18% of its police in the past year, vs what it had then.
[12:56]	DaemonFC	Nobody wants to do it anymore. Nobody wants to be the next Ella French or the next officer up on charges for being too rough on a rabid dog.
[12:56]	DaemonFC	These folks, you know, they're not even human at some point.
[12:56]	DaemonFC	Vicious rapists. Out there sticking guns in the hands of children.
[12:57]	techrights-news	German State is Switching Its 25,000 Computers From Windows to LinuxGerman State is Switching Its 25,000 Computers From Windows to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158107#comment-31833
[12:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German state planning to switch 25,000 PCs to LibreOffice (and GNU/Linux) | Tux Machines
[12:57]	DaemonFC	You certainly never hear about this going on in (most of) Indiana.
[12:58]	SomeH4x0r	didn't LibreOffice become too big?
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[12:58]	DaemonFC	<SomeH4x0r> didn't LibreOffice become too big?
[12:58]	DaemonFC	There's parts that want Java.
[12:58]	techrights-news	Former Mayor of #Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux Techrights http://techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/11/09/christian-ude-on-microsoft/
[12:58]	DaemonFC	That's probably the part that's a little much.
[12:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Mayor of Munich Explains How Microsoft Hates Linux | Techrights
[12:59]	SomeH4x0r	no idea about LibreOffice, but some people say OpenOffice takes a long time to build; also LibreOffice Community/Enterprise things, suspicious
[12:59]	DaemonFC	Star Office in the late 90s under Sun was painfully slow sometimes.
[12:59]	DaemonFC	Like, even drawing menus.
● Nov 21
[13:00]	techrights-news	"It should be interesting to know the other internal changes. Instead of the closed source Microsoft document formats, will which of the opens source formats now be used? Previously third party developers were v discouraged from the commercial products. Now government and other third parties can contribute to the development." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/11/18/german-state-planning-to-switch-25000-pcs-to-libreoffice
[13:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | German state planning to switch 25,000 PCs to LibreOffice - The Document Foundation Blog
[13:00]	DaemonFC	But I used it anyway because it didn't try bringing Internet Explorer in after I purged IE, like Office 97 wanted to.
[13:01]	schestowitz	[12:59] <SomeH4x0r> no idea about LibreOffice, but some people say OpenOffice takes a long time to build; also LibreOffice Community/Enterprise things, suspicious
[13:02]	schestowitz	IIRC, they call it "Personal Edition"
[13:02]	schestowitz	we wrote about this repeatedly
[13:02]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/07/06/libreoffice-personal-edition/
[13:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibreOffice Personal Edition Seems Like a Marketing and Communication Fluke | Techrights
[13:02]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/09/16/corporate-libreoffice/
[13:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Deleted Post: LibreOffice is Becoming Dominated by a Bunch of Corporates, and Has no Place for the Enthusiastic Amateur. | Techrights
[13:02]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/inspection-of-tdf-and-of-libreoffice/
[13:02]	schestowitz	among more
[13:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Need for Clarity on the Direction of LibreOffice | Techrights
[13:03]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: Star/OpenOffice were slow because computers were
[13:03]	schestowitz	and JAVA
[13:03]	schestowitz	the "drag" on today's PCs is minimal
[13:03]	DaemonFC	It was noticeably slower than Windows 95.
[13:04]	schestowitz	it only takes a few secoonds to launch Writers on a rapi 4 with raspi os (Debian)
[13:04]	DaemonFC	Star Office 5.2 had all sorts of bloat. Not just Java.
[13:04]	SomeH4x0r	isn't it "Community" now?
[13:04]	DaemonFC	It had a Web browser.
[13:04]	DaemonFC	But it loaded Trident.
[13:04]	schestowitz	they don't use that term
[13:04]	schestowitz	"community"
[13:04]	DaemonFC	If you gutted IE from Windows 98, the Web browser part of Star Office didn't work.
[13:04]	DaemonFC	But it also didn't crash, or affect any other part of the program.
[13:04]	schestowitz	several companies build things around it (support, services, custom-made stuff), notably collabora
[13:05]	SomeH4x0r	I have LibreOffice installed, it says Community
[13:05]	schestowitz	the core thing is 100% free
[13:05]	schestowitz	for now
[13:05]	schestowitz	we need to keep their feet on fire
[13:05]	DaemonFC	WPS Office is in Flatpak, I noticed.
[13:05]	schestowitz	it's prorprietary
[13:05]	DaemonFC	The latest issue of Linux Format reviewed office suites.
[13:05]	schestowitz	and iirc they are ooxml pushers
[13:06]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they weren't kind fo WPS or FreeOffice.
[13:06]	DaemonFC	The only time they pointed out something WPS did more correctly than LibreOffice, was PowerPoint rendering.
[13:07]	schestowitz	mine does not mention "edition at all"
[13:07]	schestowitz	"
[13:07]	schestowitz	Version: 6.1.5.2
[13:07]	schestowitz	Build ID: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u7
[13:07]	schestowitz	CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3_kde5; 
[13:07]	schestowitz	Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded
[13:07]	schestowitz	"
[13:08]	schestowitz	"1690 individuals contributed to OpenOffice.org (and whose contributions were imported into LibreOffice) or LibreOffice until 2021-08-06 11:42:16."
[13:08]	schestowitz	https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/
[13:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.libreoffice.org | Credits | LibreOffice - Free Office Suite - Based on OpenOffice - Compatible with Microsoft
[13:09]	DaemonFC	I have 7.0.4 I think.
[13:09]	DaemonFC	Backports has a newer build.
[13:09]	kingoffrance	agree with other comments. openoffice was always kind of heavyweight, but most ppl wont notice on modern hardware.   it was always a big thing to compile.    i mean, this is 5-15 years ago.   i dont know if it is even that bad now, compared to say chrome or something.  i am talking about building, any modern browser...
[13:09]	DaemonFC	The 7.0 stable branch should be fine.
[13:10]	DaemonFC	Its main feature, I think, is ISO compatible OOXML.
[13:10]	DaemonFC	Which is what Office 2019 and 365 are saving to now.
[13:10]	techrights-news	it's safe to say that Germans contributed the most to #libreoffice based on number of commits https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/
[13:10]	DaemonFC	So if you're still using Transitional, then that could cause a lot of problems.
[13:11]	kingoffrance	i mean, at the time, your lightweight alternatives might be abiword or wordperfect or something, or lyx, or some rtf thing (more limited) .   and then for other programs.     put it this way: who else did an "office suite" ?
[13:11]	DaemonFC	ODF tends to be a lot bigger. For some reason, they don't use deflate?
[13:11]	SomeH4x0r	iirc the "editions" were introduced in version 7
[13:11]	DaemonFC	Even though XML is a good candidate for compression.
[13:12]	schestowitz	space is cheap
[13:12]	schestowitz	and isn't the important metric
[13:12]	DaemonFC	Not always.
[13:12]	DaemonFC	Email attachment.
[13:12]	DaemonFC	Of course, you could ZIP it yourself.
[13:12]	schestowitz	better to have open formats
[13:12]	schestowitz	and now a "Smaller" pile of proprietary junk with compression
[13:13]	kingoffrance	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(16-bit_operating_system)#NewDeal_Office  there was that, for dos.   who else tried to do "lightweight office suite"  ?   never used, no idea if anywhere close to feature-comparison, just saying..........was there *anyone* even *trying* to do "lightweight office suite" ?
[13:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GEOS (16-bit operating system) - Wikipedia
[13:13]	schestowitz	I remember our arguments in the older days (like 2008) about Microsoft compression
[13:13]	kingoffrance	open office et. al. may be a bit big, but i dont know much anyone else even attempting such a thing
[13:13]	DaemonFC	They use deflate a lot for some reason.
[13:13]	schestowitz	abiword is still around 
[13:14]	DaemonFC	It's hardly the best out there, but it's definitely not patent encumbered.
[13:14]	schestowitz	also Calligra
[13:14]	schestowitz	not updated often but def. maintained
[13:14]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: it is
[13:14]	DaemonFC	deflate has been around since the early 90s and DOS.
[13:14]	DaemonFC	How the hell would it be patented?
[13:16]	techrights-news	James Kwong at #ipkat 'spamming' for #wipo http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/tuesday-wonders.html WIPO is very vicious, malicious, and corrupt: http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Tuesday Wonders - The IPKat
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights
[13:17]	techrights-news	There is no such thing as "AI inventorship,", but the patent maximalists relay misleading narratives for "monopolies granted to bots or algorithms" (which is beyond insane) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vjb9nd5l18nl/opinion-a-small-ray-of-light-for-dabus
[13:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Opinion: A small ray of light for DABUS | Managing Intellectual Property
[13:19]	techrights-news	"If it raises any interesting question at all, it's whether #Google is supporting #Samsung against a case that targets the #Android operating system." http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/11/munich-i-regional-courts-third-patent.html #patent #patents
[13:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Munich I Regional Court's third patent litigation division (44th Civil Chamber) held its first-ever patent infringement hearing: multitouch patent case against Samsung
[13:19]	DaemonFC	https://patents.google.com/patent/US5051745
[13:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.google.com | US5051745A - String searcher, and compressor using same - Google Patents
[13:20]	DaemonFC	The patent on deflate expired in 2010, however RFC 1951 (1996) said that even then, you could implement deflate without infringing on the algorithm defined by the patent.
[13:22]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1462358388965269504
[13:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Debian spending most of its money on lawyers? https://t.co/08gdHloEJr
[13:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | Techrights
[13:23]	DaemonFC	Katz mostly defined the encoding side in the patent.
[13:23]	DaemonFC	Which is odd.
[13:24]	DaemonFC	And might explain why Windows supported decompression only for a while, and only as an optional "Powertoy".
[13:25]	DaemonFC	Someone at Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to call ZIP support "compressed folders". Which isn't at all confusing when you think about the fact that NTFS has compressed files and folders which are actually part of the file system. :)
[13:26]	DaemonFC	At the file system level is usually the wrong place to do compression.
[13:26]	DaemonFC	It's been a disaster everywhere from DoubleSpace to BtrFS.
[13:27]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.73   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.98 swarm size (avg): 259.68  
[13:28]	DaemonFC	Microsoft seriously downplayed the bust problem.
[13:29]	DaemonFC	There were some Lucasarts games that ran into trouble with DoubleSpace too. Probably other stuff.
[13:29]	DaemonFC	Part of DoubleSpace/DriveSpace could load into High Memory Area/Upper Memor Blocks (curiously, not the extended memory area, though).
[13:30]	DaemonFC	But part of it had to be in conventional (first 640 KB).
[13:30]	DaemonFC	And that could result in it being impossible to free enough conventional memory to get a large program to load, because of the piece of the compression software that had to be there in order to make DOS bootable.
[13:30]	DaemonFC	:)
[13:32]	DaemonFC	AFAIK, you can get DriveSpace to work on FreeDOS as long as you are using FAT16, but it's probably a terrible idea.
[13:32]	DaemonFC	It's Microsoft's program, so it stands to reason that it's probably hooking into some weird DOS API or data structure they never described and you could get file corruption from that.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	But it was widely known for corrupting files on MS-DOS as well.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	Leading to a complete reinstall being necessary.
[13:34]	DaemonFC	Microsoft invited Stac Electronics to their Redmond campus to say they were interested in licensing Stacker.
[13:34]	DaemonFC	Then once Microsoft had the source to Stacker, they simply made a copycat version of it with Stacker's source code being the reference.
[13:35]	DaemonFC	Then they shipped it for free as part of DOS 6.
[13:35]	DaemonFC	Stacker took them to court and got a settlement. Microsoft released a version of DOS without it in the interim and then released "DriveSpace" and claimed it was all original.
[13:36]	techrights-news	#ZombieTrackerGPS (ZTGPS) is a Fitness Tracker for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158209 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE
[13:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZombieTrackerGPS (ZTGPS) is a Fitness Tracker for Linux | Tux Machines
[13:36]	DaemonFC	Microsoft apparently settled for quite a bit, because Stacker could prove that Microsoft even copied some of their bugs.
[13:37]	techrights-news	#MarkShuttleworth , Elio Qoshi & Debian/Ubuntu underage girls Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158208 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mark Shuttleworth, Elio Qoshi & Debian/Ubuntu underage girls | Tux Machines
[13:38]	DaemonFC	Which was highly improbable if you had based it on an observed Stacker virtual disk or something that you happened to analyze.
[13:40]	techrights-news	"Mark h showed this picture and it was of a girl called Sabrina, or thats the name that he gave her. And it was a very [?] tone, Vaseline on the lens kind of shot, and it was a a very beautiful shot, but it was with a girl with her face turned away but her breasts perfectly visible. And he saying to everyone, this is what I want the desktop to look like. http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/
[13:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Sexy Dawn of Ubuntu Branding | Techrights
[13:41]	techrights-news	#miceosoft #github is already suffering a major scandal for hiring misogynists and domestic abusers http://techrights.org/2021/11/15/nat-friedman-revisionism/
[13:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VI The Media Has Mischaracterised Nat Friedmans Departure (Effective Now) | Techrights
[13:41]	DaemonFC	"Furthermore, the Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95 pack contained version 3 of DriveSpace. This version introduced new compression formats (HiPack and UltraPack) with different performance characteristics for even greater compression ratios along with a tool that could recompress the files on the disk using the different formats, depending on how frequently the files were used. One could upgrade from DriveSpace 2 to DriveSpace 3, but there was no 
[13:41]	DaemonFC	downgrade path back to DriveSpace 2. One could, however, decompress a DriveSpace 3 drive. The DOS device driver of DriveSpace 3 had a memory footprint of around 150 KB because of all these new features. This caused difficulty for users rebooting into the MS-DOS mode of Windows 95 for running games, because of the reduced amount of conventional memory that was available."
[13:42]	DaemonFC	")
[13:42]	DaemonFC	Err, :)
[13:42]	DaemonFC	150 KB...... Almost a quarter of the conventional memory area!
[13:42]	DaemonFC	Rendering DOS mode basically useless at this point.
[13:44]	DaemonFC	https://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/~pisa/dmsdos/
[13:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cmp.felk.cvut.cz | NO TITLE
[13:44]	DaemonFC	O_O
[13:44]	DaemonFC	mcdmsdos - utility to read DoubleSpace/Driverspace/Stacker compressed volumes as Midnight Commander virtual filesystem.
[13:45]	DaemonFC	mjg59's buddy Miguel probably approved, I guess.
[13:45]	DaemonFC	The horrors of DoubleSpace/DriveSpace in DOS and Windows were legendary. Let's just port that to Linux and Midnight Commander based on a reverse engineered understanding of it.
[13:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I was talking to my dad about the DOS memory issues in the 90s. Like, you know, conventional memory, the UBM, extended, expanded....
[13:47]	DaemonFC	What a complete mess it was.
[13:47]	DaemonFC	Microsoft has never been very forward looking.
[13:47]	DaemonFC	Gates wrote a book called The Road Ahead in 1994 and it didn't even mention the Internet.
[13:49]	DaemonFC	Internet access on Windows was basically a crash process to bolt it on after the fact in a matter of months.
[13:49]	DaemonFC	And in Windows 98, it showed.
[13:49]	DaemonFC	I was reading one of those Windows splogs the other day, and it implied that the Web was developed on Windows.
[13:50]	DaemonFC	You couldn't even get on the Internet with Windows when the Web was developed.
[13:51]	DaemonFC	https://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/~pisa/dmsdos/problems.html
[13:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cmp.felk.cvut.cz | NO TITLE
[13:51]	DaemonFC	THe bugs will never be fixed. Please adapt yourself to the bugs!
[13:52]	DaemonFC	Yeah, that's how you properly emulate Microsoft.
[13:52]	DaemonFC	Or Mozilla.
[13:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, ^
[13:52]	DaemonFC	Flatpak fonts are messed up in Firefox after 4 goddamned years.
[13:53]	DaemonFC	One little configuration tweak fixes it. They don't care.
[13:53]	DaemonFC	Much better to focus on the AwesomeKeyloggerBar.
[13:54]	schestowitz	AwesomeKeyloggerBar
[13:54]	schestowitz	LOL
[13:54]	schestowitz	AwesomeBar
[13:54]	schestowitz	Awe-some
[13:54]	schestowitz	awe
[13:54]	schestowitz	originally not a positive term
[13:55]	schestowitz	like "wicked" and "bad"... now meaning good, y'know...
[13:55]	Techrights-sec	Some good news, some time back Oracle dual licensed BerkeleyDB.  It's now
[13:55]	Techrights-sec	proprietary or AGPL.  However, while this mainly a good thing, IMO, it was
[13:55]	Techrights-sec	certainly not done out of kindness.    
[13:55]	schestowitz-TR	likd FB 'quitting' face recognition, only after legal mess and lawsuits
[13:55]	DaemonFC	BIPA
[13:56]	DaemonFC	They stopped that because it was impossible to tell whether they violated BIPA.
[13:56]	DaemonFC	They'd been sued and lost a lot of money over that.
[13:56]	Techrights-sec	Except FB is not quitting, just moving the facial surveillance to a different
[13:56]	Techrights-sec	arm of the company.
[13:58]	schestowitz	now there is more data in https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=techrights
[13:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
● Nov 21
[14:00]	psydruid	Microsoft is the company that is famous for making 256-character paths work
[14:00]	techrights-news	More #fakepatents or #swpats fried: " #patent is related to securing a computer system by selectively controlling write access to a data storage medium" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/15/endpoint-ips-entity-eighth-street-patent-invalidated-in-reexam #uspto #ptab
[14:00]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/15/endpoint-ips-entity-eighth-street-patent-invalidated-in-reexam
[14:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Endpoint IP entity Eighth Street patent invalidated in Reexam Unified Patents
[14:01]	techrights-news	"The #PTAB implemented discretionary denials, among other changes that made it harder to access IPR and made IPR a more expensive and complex procedure. And, unsurprisingly, the AIAs benefits began to reversemostly to the benefit of NPEs." https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/11/16/the-pat-signal-is-going-dark-senator-leahy-wont-seek-re-election/
[14:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | The Pat-Signal Is Going DarkSenator Leahy Wont Seek Re-Election - Patent Progress
[14:04]	Techrights-sec	A lot of people remain clueless about the nature of the LF:
[14:04]	Techrights-sec	https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3501361
[14:04]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: acm.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3501361
[14:04]	Techrights-sec	For a long time, it had existed only to represent the interests of corporate
[14:04]	Techrights-sec	members within Linux.  Nowadays though ...
[14:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-queue.acm.org | It Takes a Community - ACM Queue
[14:04]	schestowitz-TR	Haha, community... show me that in their board
[14:06]	techrights-news	Those are NOT communities! They're vicious corporations that work for the #nsa https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3501361
[14:06]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: acm.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3501361
[14:08]		*DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[14:08]	techrights-news	Throwing out #swpats of #patentTrolls https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/12/ip-edges-entity-orbit-licensing-patent-challenged " #patent is generally directed to packet communications"
[14:08]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/12/ip-edges-entity-orbit-licensing-patent-challenged
[14:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | IP Edge entity Orbit Licensing patent challenged Unified Patents
[14:10]	techrights-news	#trademark maximalists cannot always get their way https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/van-doren-lifestyle-revisited-reversal.html "Beware of the situation where you are called upon to refute a claim of exhaustion only to find out that the proprietor lacks (or may be unwilling to provide) the necessary evidence."
[14:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Van Doren Lifestyle revisited: the reversal of the burden of proof due to market partitioning - The IPKat
[14:13]	techrights-news	The author does not understand "Blockchain"; just got caught up in the hype, decided top parrot what some sponsors ( #litigation firms) said... the term "IP" is also meaningless and fictional mumbo-jumbo, designed to confuse outsiders https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vgz57x3xj0y3/blockchain-a-boon-for-ip-enforcement-in-china-say-sources #managingip
[14:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Blockchain a boon for IP enforcement in China, say sources | Managing Intellectual Property
[14:14]	techrights-news	Blockchain hype and #swpats http://techrights.org/2017/12/20/erich-spangenberg-blockchain/
[14:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Notorious Patent Troll, Erich Spangenberg, Has a New Target | Techrights
[14:15]	techrights-news	#UPC is NOT dead .... it'll survive as a company :-) ;-) https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/21153-swiss-operator-sunrise-upc-taps-nokias-digital-operations-software #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt @zoobab
[14:15]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: thefastmode.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thefastmode.com/technology-solutions/21153-swiss-operator-sunrise-upc-taps-nokias-digital-operations-software
[14:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thefastmode.com | Swiss Operator Sunrise UPC Taps Nokia's Digital Operations Software
[14:16]	psydruid	a community of grifters, cheaters and liars
[14:16]	psydruid	who doesn't want to be a part of that community
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	The LF kicked out the community representation.  However, as most people live
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	perpetually in the past, few realize the scope and nature of the change into
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	an anti-Linux foundation.  
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	https://www.information-age.com/linux-foundation-causes-uproar-quietly-removing-community-representation-its-board-1
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	23460821/
[14:16]	Techrights-sec	https://www.theregister.com/2016/01/25/linux_foundation_scraps_individual_membership/
[14:16]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2016/01/25/linux_foundation_scraps_individual_membership/
[14:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.information-age.com | Linux Foundation causes uproar by quietly removing community representation from its board - Information Age
[14:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux Foundation quietly scraps individual memberships The Register
[14:16]	schestowitz	"anti-Linux foundation. "
[14:16]	schestowitz	MinceR: ^ you have a fan
[14:17]	schestowitz	[14:16] <psydruid> who doesn't want to be a part of that community
[14:17]	schestowitz	WORSE
[14:17]	schestowitz	let me put it this way
[14:17]	schestowitz	me, you, many others booster the Linux brand for decades
[14:17]	schestowitz	we gave it value
[14:17]	schestowitz	me, you, many others wrote code
[14:17]	schestowitz	deployed systems
[14:18]	schestowitz	built or planted seeds for revolutionary changes in how things are done
[14:18]	schestowitz	Now, Zemlin and his fellow frauds cash in
[14:18]	schestowitz	they monetise our word
[14:18]	schestowitz	*work
[14:18]	schestowitz	by attacking it
[14:18]	schestowitz	and passing the brand to Microsoft and friends
[14:18]	schestowitz	SMAPnil eats some fish scraps from shark Zemlin
[14:18]	schestowitz	at the end, terms like "Linux" and "Open Source" get vdevalued
[14:19]	schestowitz	GPL infringers like VMware are whitewashed
[14:19]	schestowitz	and those frauds become millionaire
[14:19]	schestowitz	millionaires
[14:19]	schestowitz	backstabbers is the wrong term
[14:19]	psydruid	ShrunkToNil has done a remarkable job
[14:19]	schestowitz	as they were never on our side
[14:19]	schestowitz	or "sellout"
[14:19]	psydruid	enablers
[14:19]	schestowitz	they are just opportunists on the scenes
[14:20]	schestowitz	who shows up with their Macs and (Windows) PCs to attack the community
[14:20]	schestowitz	and to steal the Commons
[14:20]	schestowitz	psydruid: SPAMnil?
[14:20]	schestowitz	new word?
[14:20]	schestowitz	BTW, I checked his youtuve channel yesterday
[14:20]	schestowitz	it's getting worse by the week
[14:20]	schestowitz	now it's done to like <10 views on the first day
[14:21]	schestowitz	it'll soon be just him watching his own videos
[14:21]	psydruid	I haven't watched any of his videos for years
[14:21]	schestowitz	LF pays for this junk
[14:21]	schestowitz	no wonder nobody watches it...
[14:21]	psydruid	even hisinterviews were boring to watch
[14:21]	schestowitz	it's PR crap
[14:21]	schestowitz	and his English is incomprehensible at times
[14:21]	schestowitz	[16:25] <techrights-news> LOL. #linuxfoundation #openwashing and #greenwashing PR SPAM (via SPAMnil) failing. "Fighting Climate Change With Open Source"... 25 views in 11 days. That's like 2 views per day, upon debut. People aren't fooled by those con jobs.
[14:21]	schestowitz	he ruined linux.com
[14:21]	psydruid	you can only interview Linus so many times until people get bored
[14:21]	schestowitz	writers from linux.com called it "poo"
[14:21]	schestowitz	he turned that site to shit
[14:22]	schestowitz	and they all lost their job
[14:22]	psydruid	that was his job and he got rewarded for it
[14:22]	schestowitz	he actually asked RMS what happens when he dies
[14:22]	schestowitz	he actually asked him that to his face
[14:22]	schestowitz	such an idiot
[14:22]	schestowitz	no sense of courtesy
[14:22]	schestowitz	RMS was surprised
[14:22]	schestowitz	"well, I won't be around"
[14:22]	schestowitz	then he asks again
[14:23]	schestowitz	psydruid: what happens when you die
[14:23]	schestowitz	do you look forward?
[14:23]	schestowitz	I'll ask again if needed
[14:23]	schestowitz	RMS is almost 70
[14:23]	schestowitz	you're not supposed to ask questions like these
[14:24]	psydruid	I would answer the same thing as RMS
[14:24]	schestowitz	PBS to Bill Gates: "so, Bill, did you even think about nailing your daughter?"
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[14:24]	psydruid	and hope the world becomes a better place for me not beingaround
[14:24]	psydruid	lol
[14:24]	schestowitz	"come again?"
[14:25]	schestowitz	anyway, this LF now
[14:25]	schestowitz	Perlow (Microsoft) as communications managers
[14:25]	schestowitz	SPAMnil as the famous "filmmaker" (his word)
[14:25]	schestowitz	Zemlin and his Mac as "CEO"
[14:25]	schestowitz	Microsoft staff, 100% salaried by Microsoft, in the Boards
[14:25]	schestowitz	several of them
[14:26]	schestowitz	3 or more 
[14:26]	schestowitz	this is LF
[14:26]	psydruid	LF = proprietary UNIX + Mainframe + Vista companies combined
[14:26]	psydruid	it's the ultimate declaration of war on free software
[14:26]	schestowitz	Dan Brown shilling certifications.... when I communicated with him years ago he was a Windows user
[14:26]	schestowitz	psydruid: RMS is afraid to make a statement on it
[14:26]	schestowitz	he is aware
[14:27]	schestowitz	but he doesn't want another battle
[14:28]	techrights-news	Florian Mller: In filing with appeals court, #Apple explicitly states its intent to impose its app tax even on purchases made when users click on external links http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/11/in-filing-with-appeals-court-apple.html #fosspatents
[14:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: In filing with appeals court, Apple explicitly states its intent to impose its app tax even on purchases made when users click on external links
[14:28]	psydruid	I think he has fought enough battles in his life
[14:29]	schestowitz	we need to fight the next battles
[14:29]	schestowitz	LF's name was harmed a lot since we staretd writing about it
[14:30]	schestowitz	it wasn't just us, but we got the ball rolling
[14:30]	schestowitz	and played the biggest part
[14:30]	schestowitz	in turn, we got more people to say "GNU" and "Free software"
[14:30]	schestowitz	we secure the brands that mean something
[14:30]	schestowitz	not those already (or being) destroyed
[14:31]	schestowitz	Nowadays you search "Linux" and get Microsoft
[14:31]	schestowitz	And it is deliberate
[14:32]	psydruid	does it help them, though?
[14:33]	psydruid	I don't see any less interest in GNU/Linux
[14:33]	psydruid	it looks more like it's snowballing all of a sudden
[14:33]	psydruid	as many things are finally coming together
[14:37]	psydruid	and every piece of 32/64-bit hardware is potentially a GNU/Linux computer
[14:37]	psydruid	it's impossible for GNU/Linux or a successor to win
[14:42]	techrights-news	"Immediately behind Flory's head, we see a woman who was shortlisted for the Red Hat women in open source award." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158208#comment-31834
[14:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mark Shuttleworth, Elio Qoshi & Debian/Ubuntu underage girls | Tux Machines
[14:44]	schestowitz	[14:32] <psydruid> does it help them, though?
[14:44]	schestowitz	it depends
[14:44]	schestowitz	if we respond, their attack is a waste of money
[14:44]	schestowitz	example: they tried WSL
[14:44]	schestowitz	we immediately fired back
[14:44]	schestowitz	itr failed
[14:44]	schestowitz	even its own team left
[14:45]	schestowitz	so whether they succeed depends on the response
[14:45]	schestowitz	Phoronix stopped covering Microsoft around the time we spoke out
[14:45]	schestowitz	FOSS Force is now doing better
[14:45]	schestowitz	for years it was just Bruce Byfield attacking us
[14:45]	schestowitz	OSI is silent
[14:45]	schestowitz	GNOME Foundation the same
[14:46]	schestowitz	Deb Nicholson tossed out
[14:46]	schestowitz	Bully de Blanc unemployed, blogging about culinary experiments
[14:46]	schestowitz	so really, imho, those attacks on us are self-harming to those who participate in them
[14:49]	psydruid	there should be no money in selling out and should lead to unemployment
[14:49]	psydruid	it's like a shadow economy that doesn't serve any purpose and shouldn't exist
[14:50]	schestowitz	I think we handled the things well
[14:51]	schestowitz	no regrets, except not realising freenode was in serious trouble right from the start
[14:51]	schestowitz	but that''s not a free software/Linux issues
[14:51]	schestowitz	it's Internet infra issue
[14:51]	psydruid	and it was corrected
[14:52]	psydruid	self-hosting is the only valid solution
[14:53]	psydruid	I am wondering how the telecom/cable cartel will respond to more and more people running servers from home
[14:54]	schestowitz	yes, I wonder too
[14:54]	schestowitz	it's "grey area"
[14:54]	schestowitz	or "gray" in US
[14:54]	schestowitz	I run gemini and ipfs from home
[14:54]	schestowitz	I use up almost full network capacity 24/7
[14:54]	schestowitz	I traffic-shape to prevent issues
[14:55]	schestowitz	anyway, we need a stronger federated network of free software advocacy
[14:55]	schestowitz	figOSDev to his credit spoke a lot about it
[14:55]	schestowitz	it's how we drove back the anti-RMS mob
[14:56]	schestowitz	FSFE is still badly bruised
[14:56]	schestowitz	almost as much as OSI
[14:56]	schestowitz	FSFI is good
[14:56]	schestowitz	India
[14:56]	schestowitz	FSFE is too deep in the wrong pockets
[14:57]	schestowitz	and FSF has blasted it for years behind the scenes
[14:57]	schestowitz	demanding they rename
[14:57]	schestowitz	it's easier to attack RMS when you call yourself "FSFE"
[14:57]	schestowitz	and so people wrongly assume it's "branch" of FSF attacking its own founder
[14:58]	schestowitz	FSFE is NOT bad people!
[14:58]	schestowitz	but they are not FSF
[14:58]	schestowitz	and they mislead
[14:58]	schestowitz	they are predominantly German
[14:58]	schestowitz	and soon they will falsely claim "credit"for a German state moving to libre
[14:59]	psydruid	SFSFG
[14:59]	schestowitz	https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/11/21/0231218/a-german-state-is-switching-its-25000-computers-from-windows-to-linux
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[14:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | A German State is Switching Its 25,000 Computers From Windows to Linux - Slashdot
[14:59]	schestowitz	https://mspoweruser.com/a-german-state-will-once-again-try-and-replace-microsoft-office-with-libreoffice-more/
[14:59]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: mspoweruser.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mspoweruser.com/a-german-state-will-once-again-try-and-replace-microsoft-office-with-libreoffice-more/
[14:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A German state will once again try and replace Microsoft Office with LibreOffice, more - MSPoweruser
[14:59]	schestowitz	second link is coy
[14:59]	psydruid	Sell-out Free Software Foundation Germany
[14:59]	schestowitz	using Munich asa wedge 
[14:59]	schestowitz	after Microsoft, Accenture, HP, gartner and others mobbed them
● Nov 21
[15:00]	schestowitz	psydruid: I call them Gulag Deutschland
[15:00]	schestowitz	it's where President SCHTALEEN put his stake
[15:00]	schestowitz	funny slant... Google is "from Russia"
[15:00]	schestowitz	Brin is Russian citizen
[15:00]	kingoffrance	"Someone at Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to call ZIP support "compressed folders"" look at arjfolder IIRC and there was some other "magic folder" something. these were non-ms products, dont recall if commercial or freeware etc.  that would let you access archives as folders.   ms version included with windows ,was just a ghetto version basically
[15:01]	kingoffrance	is this a surprise, ms just badly copied some other utilities?
[15:01]	schestowitz	don't think he ever relinquished that nationality
[15:01]	kingoffrance	and bundled it "for free" ?
[15:01]	kingoffrance	the theory was you could just use explorer ui and copy inside/outside archives, double click to open, etc.   so it was "transparent" you didnt have to learn some gui or other program for "archives"
[15:01]	schestowitz	Microsoft are folders
[15:01]	schestowitz	Microsoft folding companies
[15:02]	kingoffrance	:)
[15:02]	kingoffrance	the ms version, if you compare to others, basically sucked
[15:02]	schestowitz	folders like cheap suits!
[15:09]	psydruid	the best way to notice that it's all fake grassroots is that the shills stop responding or completely disappear
[15:09]	schestowitz	fake grassroots i
[15:09]	schestowitz	astroturf
[15:10]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2013/03/14/zdnet-written-by-microsoft/
[15:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Microsoft Employees as ZDNet Writers, Microsoft Bribes Bloggers for AstroTurfing | Techrights
[15:10]	psydruid	when they aren't getting paid, they suddenly aren't interested in any of it
[15:10]	schestowitz	he's NOT SPOKESPERSON FOR LINUX FOUNDATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[15:10]	schestowitz	*NOW
[15:10]	schestowitz	not "NOT'
[15:10]	schestowitz	perlow
[15:10]	schestowitz	that's how badly LF f*s us in the rear
[15:11]	schestowitz	btw, he was here in IRC many time
[15:11]	schestowitz	*Times
[15:11]	schestowitz	but that was more than a decade ago
[15:11]	schestowitz	he got his behind handed to him by some people
[15:11]	schestowitz	over a number of issues
[15:11]	schestowitz	he was shilling MIguel de Izaca, Mono, Moonlight etc.
[15:12]	schestowitz	it was around the time of the Beijing olympics
[15:12]	schestowitz	which gives you an idea how long ago that was
[15:12]	schestowitz	or how long we're been around 
[15:12]	schestowitz	the picture of him as dinosaur was his own choosing
[15:12]	schestowitz	after he had done the same to RMS
[15:13]	schestowitz	I asked him what his fav dinosaur was
[15:13]	schestowitz	and then used that with his fac
[15:13]	schestowitz	*face
[15:13]	schestowitz	here in IRC
[15:13]	schestowitz	they swam near the shark and got rewarded
[15:14]	schestowitz	with money, obv., not a popularity contest
[15:14]	psydruid	I like when Hayden Barnes came here and I handed his ass to him on a platter
[15:14]	schestowitz	he now works on rancher stuff
[15:15]	schestowitz	not windows afaik
[15:15]	psydruid	and then he invited everyone to his WSL Conf,which I did register for and nomally attended
[15:15]	schestowitz-TR	https://matchday.mancity.com/fixtures/first-team/2021/manchester-city-v-everton/
[15:15]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: mancity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matchday.mancity.com/fixtures/first-team/2021/manchester-city-v-everton/
[15:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matchday.mancity.com | Mancity - Official Club Website
[15:15]	psydruid	but that was more like reverse infiltration
[15:15]	psydruid	I realised the emperor has no clothes and the WSL Conf was a dud
[15:16]	psydruid	no wonder it didn't go anywhere
[15:16]	psydruid	I think it was more like a recruitment event
[15:16]	psydruid	to see who was gullible enough to get sucked in
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[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	Rodri 2-0
[15:17]	schestowitz-TR	we can heat the chanting here
[15:18]	schestowitz-TR	*hear
[15:19]	techrights-news	Links 21/11/2021: Gluster 10, Lots About Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/gluster-10/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/gluster-10/
[15:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/11/2021: Gluster 10, Lots About Patents | Techrights
[15:20]	techrights-news	#ProprietarySoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158210 #TuxMachines
[15:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:21]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158211 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[15:21]	techrights-news	#SDSi and #KVM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158212 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SDSi and KVM | Tux Machines
[15:21]	techrights-news	Videos/Shows: #MakuluLinux , This Week in Linux, #GNUWorldOrder Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158213 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: MakuluLinux, This Week in Linux, GNU World Order | Tux Machines
[15:22]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158214 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1462424602999726082#m
[15:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "It's already a company, it's A Kangaroo Court with Quarterly Results with an objective to become self-financed!" | nitter
[15:23]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1462434727735013378#m
[15:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 429 @ https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1462434727735013378#m )
[15:24]	schestowitz-TR	https://nitter.eu/daw985/status/1462423734866821125#m
[15:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Claudio d'Angelis (@daw985): "author here, thanks for sharing :-)" | nitter
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[15:49]	schestowitz-TR	3-0
[15:50]	psydruid	Ole Ole Ole
[15:50]	MinceR	3-0=3
[15:50]	MinceR	kpart kpart kpart
[15:53]	techrights-news	How #patent maximalists react to exist of Mr. #AIA https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vj0t7sdwtzp0/three-ways-leahy39s-retirement-could-shake-up-ip #ptab http://techrights.org/2011/02/02/reform-vs-biden-mentality/
[15:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Three ways Leahy's retirement could shake up IP | Managing Intellectual Property
[15:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President Obama Could Use Some Lecturing on the Subject of Patent Monopolies | Techrights
[15:54]	techrights-news	More "Hey Hi" BS from clueless and inexperienced writers who just parrot what they are told by sponsors (conflict of interest) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vj9hjgg0pb97/law-must-make-way-for-new-tech-soon-ai-copyright-co-author
[15:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Law must make way for new tech soon: AI copyright co-author | Managing Intellectual Property
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[16:04]	techrights-news	A patent litigator instead of scientist; who is this system for? Does the patent system exist for lawyers or for actual innovation? https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/inside-the-record-of-the-patent-litigator-touted-bidens-uspto-chief-choice
[16:04]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/inside-the-record-of-the-patent-litigator-touted-bidens-uspto-chief-choice
[16:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Inside the record of the patent litigator touted as Bidens USPTO chief choice | IAM
[16:06]	techrights-news	It's a lot safer and less cumbersome to just use #Freesoftware https://www.mondaq.com/licensing-syndication/1125270/software-license-agreements-in-ukraine #freesw
[16:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Software License Agreements In Ukraine - Intellectual Property - Ukraine
[16:07]	techrights-news	Choosing secrecy instead of #patents https://www.iam-media.com/trade-secrets/tsmc-has-catalogued-more-140000-trade-secrets-2013-company-says
[16:07]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/trade-secrets/tsmc-has-catalogued-more-140000-trade-secrets-2013-company-says
[16:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | TSMC has catalogued more than 140,000 trade secrets since 2013, company says | IAM
[16:08]	techrights-news	Speaking only to a bucket of lawyers and nobody else, as usual https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vjg434t3nczh/why-most-in-house-prefer-specialist-over-generalist-prosecutors
[16:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Why most in-house prefer specialist over generalist prosecutors | Managing Intellectual Property
[16:09]	techrights-news	Florian Mller: After Google's announcement of bad-faith compliance with in-app payments law, South Korean lawmakers must go back to the drawing board if they respect themselves and want to be respected http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/11/after-google-announcement-of-bad-faith.html
[16:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: After Google's announcement of bad-faith compliance with in-app payments law, South Korean lawmakers must go back to the drawing board if they respect themselves and want to be respected
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[16:22]	techrights-news	#Box64 Can Now Run Crysis on ARM with DXVK https://boilingsteam.com/box64-can-now-run-crysis-on-arm-with-dxvk/ #gnu #linux
[16:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Box86 Can Now Run Crysis on ARM with DXVK - Boiling Steam
[16:23]	techrights-news	" #EasyOS has a GUI for /usr/bin/sct (set color temperature), 'brightness-control-1.2.2.pet'." https://bkhome.org/news/202111/redshift-gui-tray-app.html #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware
[16:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | redshift GUI tray app
[16:23]	techrights-news	"You can also expect to have Risc-V supported by Box64 in the future Needless to say, it wont be too long (give it a few years) until the ARM revolution comes to Linux PCs as well, bringing gaming along with it." https://boilingsteam.com/box64-can-now-run-crysis-on-arm-with-dxvk/
[16:24]	techrights-news	Light-Tracking BEAM Robot Can See The Light | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/21/light-tracking-beam-robot-can-see-the-light/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
[16:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Light-Tracking BEAM Robot Can See The Light | Hackaday
[16:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[16:24]	techrights-news	#deletegithub https://hackaday.com/2021/11/21/a-trackball-so-good-you-cant-buy-it/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
[16:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Trackball So Good You Cant Buy It | Hackaday
[16:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights
[16:26]	techrights-news	'owning' shapes https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=2483349a-1dea-4919-960e-38c49e047f98 see http://techrights.org/2018/08/02/design-patents-legitimacy/
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[16:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shape Marks & Technical Necessity - Lexology
[16:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Design Patents: When Appearances Rather Than Inventions and Functions Are Oddly Enough Covered by Patents, Not Copyrights or Trademarks | Techrights
[16:27]	techrights-news	#Nature should know better than to publish #patent propaganda that perpetuates old myths https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03438-x
[16:27]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03438-x
[16:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | How to turn your ideas into patents
[16:29]	techrights-news	So what? It says nothing about the quality or merit of those #patent applications; anybody can apply... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/indian-patent-filings-grow-despite-pandemic/articleshow/87704869.cms #patents #propaganda from #WIPO http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
[16:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Indian patent filings grow despite pandemic - Times of India
[16:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights
[16:30]	techrights-news	PSSST! Heres A Novel SSB Radio Design With Only Seven Transistors | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/20/pssst-heres-a-novel-ssb-radio-design-with-only-seven-transistors/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
[16:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PSSST! Heres A Novel SSB Radio Design With Only Seven Transistors | Hackaday
[16:51]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21111554
[16:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6010566)
[16:52]	schestowitz	what is das vicous MONSTER?
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[17:00]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[17:00]	tech_exorcist	hi SomeH4x0r
[17:06]	schestowitz	0/
[17:07]	schestowitz	psydruid:  https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-P2DAwcimU0
[17:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Manchester City vs Everton 3-0 Extended Highlights & All Goals 2021 HD - Invidious
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[17:09]	schestowitz	across the road from us
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[17:29]	psydruid	let me see if I can watch that from here
[17:33]	techrights-news	Soammy fake awards from a #propgangdamill (that's its business mode), conflating #litigation over #patents covering life and nature (NOT KIDDING!) with "life sciences" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1v8shcxb9bnpp/lmg-life-sciences-awards-emea-2022-information-and-updates see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | LMG Life Sciences Awards EMEA 2022: information and updates | Managing Intellectual Property
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term Life Science Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights
[17:34]	MinceR	(audio:unimportant) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYXwt75cl0E
[17:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-StarCraft 1 has very good pathfinding - YouTube
[17:37]	techrights-news	#Litigation company #Dennemeyer Group intentionally mixing a whole bag of different law to come up with the misleading term "Intellectual Property" and throwing some #UPC #propaganda into the mix https://www.mondaq.com/italy/trademark/1131092/shaping-the-future-of-italy39s-intellectual-property-system
[17:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Shaping The Future Of Italy's Intellectual Property System - Intellectual Property - Italy
[17:38]	techrights-news	IP law: when you send a TCP packet with a joke, it will be received by its destination. If it's UDP, the destination might not get the joke.
[17:38]	psydruid	it would be interesting to see how well Starcraft I & II run on Box86
[17:39]	psydruid	although it's a bit harder to run armhf and aarch64 side by side on ARM hardware, because they are completely separate ISAs
[17:39]	techrights-news	#patent lawyers also don't "get" IP jokes because when you send it over UDP all they can think of is "HEY HI!" and "smart!" and all dem "clown" "blockchain" "thingies"...
[17:53]	techrights-news	Today Its That Coveted 1,800 Milestone for #GeminiSpace and Its Possible We&#8217;ll Have Over 2,000 Known (Indexed) Capsules by Year&#8217;s End! Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/gemini-1800-milestone/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/gemini-1800-milestone/
[17:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Today Its That Coveted 1,800 Milestone for Gemini Space and Its Possible Well Have Over 2,000 Known (Indexed) Capsules by Years End! | Techrights
[17:53]	techrights-news	#Linux Kernel 5.14 Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.15 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158215 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.14 Reached End of Life, Users Urged to Upgrade to Linux 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines
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[18:05]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/12/funny-internet-comments-11-12-21/
[18:05]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/12/funny-internet-comments-11-12-21/
[18:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | The Best Comments On The Interwebs This Week (20 Pics)
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[18:09]	XRevan86	"Whomever <> never worked" <- what makes people use "whom" in these cases?
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[18:31]	techrights-news	[Meme] They Send #LinusTorvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/ #Techrights #LinuxFoundation #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
[18:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
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[18:31]	schestowitz	<0/
[18:32]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[18:32]	techrights-news	"In 2019 #Techrights undertook the task of investigative inquiry regarding the #LinuxFoundation , a trade group headed by Jim #Zemlin . Below are articles that belong to this series, listed in reverse older of publication. There are also much older articles." http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
[18:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights
[18:34]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158216 #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:44]	techrights-news	#TeamUPC ( #KatherAugenstein Rechtsanwlte PartGmbB) wants us to think #UPCA is just waiting for Austria. They need the UK, not #Austria , otherwise they very clearly violate the Vienna Convention. More #fakenews from liars/lawyers http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/
[18:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights
[18:45]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158217 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[18:48]	techrights-news	So @michaelmrosen , the lead #patent extremist at #AEI , is realising that the public is losing faith in the patent system because of #COVID19 , which is exploited by greedy monopolists who make a milling and kill people to raise profits (keeping the prices high) https://www.aei.org/technology-and-innovation/moderna-nih-spat-over-inventorship-opens-new-front-in-covid-19-vaccine-patent-battle/
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[18:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aei.org | ModernaNational Institutes of Health spat over inventorship opens new front in COVID-19 vaccine patent battle | American Enterprise Institute - AEI
[18:48]	techrights-news	#patent #cartel https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/moderna%3A-what-you-need-to-know-right-now #Moderna #patents #monoplies
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[18:53]	TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
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[18:55]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/12/1000-iq-moments-tweets/
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[18:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | "1000 IQ Moments" Twitter Page Will Probably Lower Your IQ (40 Tweets)
[18:56]	techrights-news	Access to medicines critical in European Parliament vote on #EU [propaganda term] action plan https://pr.euractiv.com/pr/access-medicines-critical-european-parliament-vote-eu-ip-action-plan-224499 #patent #patents #monopolies #greed
[18:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pr.euractiv.com | Access to medicines critical in European Parliament vote on EU IP action plan | EURACTIV PR
[18:58]	techrights-news	#Patent extremists in the pockets of #patenttrolls , #IBM , #Microsoft etc. want to kill millions of people for the sake of keeping prices of vaccines artificially high ( #BillGates is investor and infiltrator) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/11/vaccine-diplomacy-doctrine.html
[18:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | COVID Vaccine Diplomacy and Patent Law Doctrine | Patently-O
[18:59]	techrights-news	It took a while to get from 1,700 to 1,800; today, for the first time, #Lupa sees over 1,800 #Geminispace capsules, which means that 5 new ones per day until the end of this year will entail a total of 2,000 before 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/gemini-1800-milestone/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/gemini-1800-milestone/
[18:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Today Its That Coveted 1,800 Milestone for Gemini Space and Its Possible Well Have Over 2,000 Known (Indexed) Capsules by Years End! | Techrights
● Nov 21
[19:00]	techrights-news	Many people arent aware that aside from the seemingly forced apology #LinusTorvalds was compelled to see therapists as if he was mentally ill; this is how the #LinuxFoundation treats the person who holds the #trademark (Linux) its called after http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
[19:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
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[19:09]	techrights-news	TuxMachines
[19:10]	techrights-news	A big hey! from diaspora* Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158218 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A big hey! from diaspora* | Tux Machines
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[19:12]	techrights-news	"Ghostwriter, free and open-source markdown text editor, released version 2.1.0 with some new features. Heres whats new and how to install in Ubuntu." https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/11/markdown-editor-ghostwriter-2-1-0-released/
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[19:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | Modern Free Markdown Editor Ghostwriter 2.1.0 Released with New Features | UbuntuHandbook
[19:16]	techrights-news	The upper class with its #corporateMedia is riling up racial conflicts, using #racism to wing up inciting groups of poor people against one another while all the capital is stolen at the top https://stallman.org/archives//2021-sep-dec.html#21_November_2021_(Kyle_Rittenhouse_acquitted)
[19:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[19:18]	techrights-news	Oligarchs have long sponsored racist parties, including the Nazi Party in Germany. There's this myth about rich people being tolerant; they pay to create such myths and spread them. http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/ http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
[19:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights
[19:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
[19:18]	techrights-news	Linux Random Number Generator https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2036923.9o76ZdvQCi@positron.chronox.de/T/#m00979376dd38e12ecd8522b90515d0909d977342 #linux #kernel #rng
[19:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v43 00/15] /dev/random - a new approach
[19:19]	techrights-news	Is #jrnl the Best Journaling App for the Command Line? - OMG! Ubuntu! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/11/jrnl-is-a-command-line-note-taking-app #OMGUbuntu #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
[19:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Is 'jrnl' the Best Journaling App for the Command Line? - OMG! Ubuntu!
[19:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[19:23]	techrights-news	#Amazon Will Face Black Friday Strikes and Protests in 20 Countries https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7vebb/amazon-will-face-black-friday-strikes-and-protests-in-20-countries http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Amazon
[19:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Amazon Will Face Black Friday Strikes and Protests in 20 Countries
[19:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amazon - Techrights
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[20:12]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.81   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.75 swarm size (avg): 259.64  
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[20:27]	techrights-news	"Just posting there here to say that any servers that use Gig Framework should be fine. Also, I'm actually quite surprised so many servers have this problem." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007623.html
[20:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Case-sensitive hostnames
[20:29]	techrights-news	Alll #SoftwarePatents should be reject, not just this one https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1127888/setting-a-proper-confidence-factor-threshold-in-speech-recognition-non-technical http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe
[20:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Setting A Proper Confidence Factor Threshold In Speech Recognition: Non-Technical - Intellectual Property - Germany
[20:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights
[20:30]	techrights-news	#lexology now increases use of paywalls and has "lexology pro" so I guess they've failed at making money. Good. #patent maximalists....
[20:31]	techrights-news	#eu = #internet #censorship using broad and value labels like in #china https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/eus-vestager-says-harmful-content-has-role-to-play-in-debate
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[20:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE
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[20:32]	techrights-news	People who sell #trademark paperwork overstate things: " #Germany is home to some of the world's most valuable brands, and also serves as an important foreign market for brand owners from numerous countries." https://www.mondaq.com/germany/trademark/1131764/trademarks-in-germany-gamechanging-advantages
[20:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Trademarks In Germany: Game-Changing Advantages - Intellectual Property - Germany
[20:33]	techrights-news	Some more #fakepatents or #swpats https://www.mondaq.com/germany/patent/1132796/editing-3d-content-nontechnical
[20:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Editing 3D Content: Non-technical - Intellectual Property - Germany
[20:35]	techrights-news	During #pandemic people do not need #patents but need care; the law firms don't care about people, they only care about money https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1109366/pharma-patents-in-the-pandemic
[20:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Pharma Patents In The Pandemic - Intellectual Property - Denmark
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[20:36]	techrights-news	Sales pitch (for oneself) pushing the misleading term "IP", which is a misnomer https://www.mondaq.com/ireland/patent/1125344/the-irish-courts-strengthen-their-position-as-a-jurisdiction-for-resolving-ip-and-technology-disputes
[20:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The Irish Courts Strengthen Their Position As A Jurisdiction For Resolving IP And Technology Disputes - Intellectual Property - Ireland
[20:37]	techrights-news	"a recent decision of the Italian Supreme Court concerning damage calculation in cases of #trademark infringement." https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/guest-post-est-modus-in-rebus-italian.html #italy
[20:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Est modus in rebus Italian Supreme Court says no automatic award of a reasonable royalty following trade mark infringement - The IPKat
[20:40]	techrights-news	The Board which itself violates the EPC deciding on the EPC https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1125678/decision-of-the-boards-of-appeal-t-006618 #epo #corruption http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
[20:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Decision Of The Boards Of Appeal T 0066/18 - Intellectual Property - Denmark
[20:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
[20:42]	techrights-news	More To Environment Variables Than You Know - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9kFE5WVL5O0 #video #gnu #linux
[20:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | More To Environment Variables Than You Know - Invidious
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[20:47]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158222 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:50]	techrights-news	Porting Tok To Not Linux: The Journey Of Incessant Failure Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158223 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Porting Tok To Not Linux: The Journey Of Incessant Failure | Tux Machines
[20:52]	techrights-news	"And dont forget, our store will be popping up on Oxford Street in London next weekend, so drop in if youre in the area for festive shopping." But you infamously reject cash payments, i.e. you harm #privacy https://www.raspberrypi.com/weekly/calling-all-raspberry-pi-camera-users/
[20:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.com | Raspberry Pi Weekly Issue #377 - Calling all Raspberry Pi camera users
[20:52]	techrights-news	158224
[20:53]	techrights-news	Box64 Can Now Run Crysis on ARM with DXVK Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158224 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Box64 Can Now Run Crysis on ARM with DXVK | Tux Machines
[20:53]	techrights-news	Applications: #jrnl , #Ghostwriter , and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158225 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Applications: jrnl, Ghostwriter, and More | Tux Machines
[20:55]	techrights-news	#PTAB crushes lots of #fakepatents ; Leahy's last move before retiring https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/leahy-cornyn-ptab-bill-consequences see http://techrights.org/2011/02/02/reform-vs-biden-mentality/
[20:55]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/leahy-cornyn-ptab-bill-consequences
[20:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Five ways in which theLeahy-Cornyn billdramatically changesthe PTAB process | IAM
[20:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President Obama Could Use Some Lecturing on the Subject of Patent Monopolies | Techrights
[20:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Greetings from the land of maple syrup and Tim Hortons, eh.
[20:57]	techrights-news	#watchtroll blowhard #GeneQuinn wants to kill more people like himself (he's vulnerable; obese and unhealthy) for the sake of #patent profits ("FDA Resists FOIA Request for Vaccine Approval Info as Biden Administration Offers to Share it with the World" published minutes ago)
[20:58]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: canada...
[20:58]	schestowitz	why?
[20:58]	schestowitz	did you drive there? or vpn?
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[20:59]	schestowitz	is vpn like a holiday now?
● Nov 21
[21:01]	techrights-news	Trolling courts to pursue ridiculous agenda; what next, patents for animals as "inventors"? https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1131452/dabus-team-seeks-permission-for-further-appeal
[21:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | DABUS Team Seeks Permission For Further Appeal - Intellectual Property - UK
[21:03]	techrights-news	Lawyers and liars are misusing the "Hey Hi" brush (buzzwords mostly) to trick examiners and bypass the law, getting fake #patents on software https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/patenting-the-ai-pipeline-intellectual-property-ai-standardisation #swpats
[21:03]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/patenting-the-ai-pipeline-intellectual-property-ai-standardisation
[21:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Patenting the AI pipeline: intellectual property for AI before standardisation | IAM
[21:04]	techrights-news	" #trademark owners [sic] bear the burden of proof for public recognition of a trademark within the affected trade circles in cancellation proceedings as well as in #trademarks application proceedings." https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/german-fcj-trademark-owners-bear-the-8539927/
[21:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-German FCJ: Trademark owners bear the burden of proof for the public recognition of a trademark | Hogan Lovells - JDSupra
[21:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, The VPN is acting funny again.
[21:06]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: still no Microsoft in Phoronix
[21:06]	schestowitz	maybe he got the message?
[21:06]	DaemonFC	Dad asked me about WSL.
[21:07]	techrights-news	"[Cangar]s excitement is palpable in his release of a working brain-computer interface (BCI) mod for Skyrim VR, in which the magic system in the game is modified so that spell effectiveness is significantly boosted when the player is in a focused mental state." https://hackaday.com/2021/11/21/magic-in-vr-that-depends-on-your-actual-state-of-mind/
[21:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Magic In VR That Depends On Your Actual State Of Mind | Hackaday
[21:07]	DaemonFC	I told him it was the Microsoft Java VM all over again. Extending "Linux" applications to only run on Windows, or at least trying to.
[21:08]	schestowitz	yes, exactly
[21:08]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/
[21:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Historys Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating Schism to Wrest Control) | Techrights
[21:09]	techrights-news	Linux Random Number Generator Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158226 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Random Number Generator | Tux Machines
[21:10]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: did you see the memes at the front page?
[21:11]	schestowitz	it's about Torvalds
[21:11]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
[21:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
[21:11]	techrights-news	#EasyOS : #redshift and #XorgWizard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158227 #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS: redshift and XorgWizard | Tux Machines
[21:11]	schestowitz	LF got EEExtended
[21:11]	schestowitz	these are NOT just PAST Microsoft people
[21:12]	schestowitz	they are working for a salary there
[21:12]	schestowitz	Microsoft can DEMAND they do things
[21:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Microsoft yanked the x86 emulator out of Windows 10 for ARM.
[21:12]	schestowitz	or else they get fired
[21:12]	schestowitz	Torvalds got himself into a hot mess
[21:12]	DaemonFC	Now you can't run anything on those computers unless you update to Windows 11 or they're a store application built for ARM.
[21:12]	DaemonFC	So basically MS Edge and Office.
[21:12]	schestowitz	one of them is COO of ShitHub IIRC
[21:12]	psydruid	I just ran some gratis GOG games for DOS and ScummVM on the Orange Pi
[21:12]	psydruid	using native Dosbox and ScummVM binaries
[21:13]	schestowitz	and will push for Linux/kernel to move there with her colleague; it already happened
[21:13]	DaemonFC	Microsoft keeps trying to push ARM but it doesn't work.
[21:13]	psydruid	Windows on ARM is a mythical thing that will never become something
[21:13]	schestowitz	yes, each time I'm like "wwwhhhaaaa????"
[21:13]	DaemonFC	People don't want to spend that kind of money on something that doesn't run their software.
[21:13]	schestowitz	I mean, nothing runs on it
[21:13]	schestowitz	do they think people want just Edge, Solitaire, and no games etc.?
[21:14]	psydruid	because GNU/Linux on ARM is the premier operating system on that architecture
[21:14]	schestowitz	Who do they think their target market is?
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Pallets and pallets of unsold laptops.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Liquidation sellers?
[21:14]	schestowitz	can they be wiped?
[21:14]	DaemonFC	I knew someone with a Surface RT.
[21:14]	schestowitz	and gnu/linux installed?
[21:14]	DaemonFC	I asked her why she had one.
[21:14]	psydruid	it's like SPARC/Solaris to Linux/x86, but for Windows/x86 to Linux/ARM
[21:14]	schestowitz	iirc, they call them "surface"
[21:14]	DaemonFC	She said they were practically giving them away at that point.
[21:15]	schestowitz	not this one http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/
[21:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights
[21:15]	schestowitz	they recycled the trademark
[21:15]	schestowitz	from one failing products to the next
[21:15]	schestowitz	Maybe they should rename Azure just "ZUNE"
[21:15]	schestowitz	and then tell shareholders this time it can succeed
[21:16]	schestowitz	they poured lots of money into Azure, said it would matcj AWS
[21:16]	schestowitz	13 years later...
[21:16]	schestowitz	where are they? LOL!
[21:16]	psydruid	is Azure actually used?
[21:16]	psydruid	whatever they mean by Azure today
[21:16]	schestowitz	some people say so
[21:16]	schestowitz	it's like a unicorn
[21:16]	schestowitz	never saw one
[21:16]	schestowitz	like I said in my videos
[21:16]	schestowitz	our clients never used it
[21:17]	schestowitz	never even thought about using it
[21:17]	schestowitz	I think media creates TONS of hype about the few who do use it
[21:17]	schestowitz	psydruid: activelow told me azure is everywhere
[21:17]	schestowitz	because 2 years ago they bought some company and rebranded it "azure'
[21:17]	schestowitz	ThreadX
[21:18]	schestowitz	in their web site they use misleading language
[21:18]	schestowitz	to somehow imply ThreadX is everywhere, hence "Azure"
[21:18]	schestowitz	in the same way HPC is now... something "Azure"
[21:18]	schestowitz	one machine
[21:18]	schestowitz	among 500
[21:18]	schestowitz	so Microsoft WON!!
[21:18]	schestowitz	maybe Microsoft pays them
[21:18]	schestowitz	as it did elsewhere
[21:18]	schestowitz	for fake "case studies"
[21:18]	schestowitz	run at a loss
[21:19]	schestowitz	just to stick a brand on some market
[21:19]	psydruid	Azure is indeed everywhere
[21:19]	schestowitz	LSE/London
[21:19]	psydruid	but how is this in agreement with their financial status?
[21:19]	schestowitz	I try to respond to it without liking to their spam or mentioning the brand
[21:19]	schestowitz	memes are one way
[21:19]	psydruid	if they have to pour so much money into everything and people still don't use it
[21:20]	schestowitz	maybe they can use their spying to start blackmailing people
[21:20]	psydruid	is this Theranos?
[21:20]	schestowitz	"move to azure or... we know what you did last summer in linkedin
[21:20]	schestowitz	Maybe Epstein estate can help with the blackmail
[21:20]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/
[21:20]	psydruid	buying LinkedIn never made sense
[21:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linked In to Pedophilia | Techrights
[21:21]	schestowitz	yes, it was money down the drain
[21:21]	psydruid	unless they want to know who stopped using and implementing Microsoft
[21:21]	schestowitz	Linked=layoffs
[21:21]	schestowitz	they said they bought something about jobs
[21:21]	schestowitz	and now they eliminate jobs  LOLL
[21:21]	schestowitz	the irony
[21:21]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ5nPoHyAKc
[21:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Asking Henry about recession - YouTube
[21:21]	schestowitz	maybe the fired linkedin staff can use their linkedIn account to find a new job.... :D
[21:21]	schestowitz	or maybe not
[21:22]	schestowitz	it's a myth that people on that site get jobs
[21:22]	schestowitz	like people who think FB makes them real friends
[21:22]	psydruid	maybe in addition to boycotting Github, we should start a "Boycott LinkedIn" movement
[21:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, They lowered Cyberpunk 2077 to $10 for Black Friday.
[21:22]	DaemonFC	Block Friday? I can never tell. Maybe mjg59 knows.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	Anyway....still too much. They released a broken game and after hundreds of fixes, it's still broken.
[21:23]	psydruid	I did get some of my jobs through LinkedIn, which is why I have kept my profile around
[21:23]	DaemonFC	If they're going to make a thing out of selling it at $10 now and then then they probably won't spend much more effort fixing bugs.
[21:27]	techrights-news	Best Free #Android Apps: #OpenTTD transport tycoon business simulation game Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158228 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free Android Apps: OpenTTD transport tycoon business simulation game | Tux Machines
[21:27]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.55   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.36 swarm size (avg): 259.62  
[21:28]	psydruid	so Cyberpunk 2077 is basically worthless now?
[21:28]	psydruid	does it even run on GNU/Linux natively?
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Tania Martinez
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Sue Napier My turkey would cost $60.00 is that a lot of money?
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Michael Reinhart
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Tania Martinez ... that seems like it would be around a 60# turkey or so... how are you cooking that?
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Michael Reinhart With the MOAD. It was a military project in case the turkeys ever got out of control due to the growth hormones and antibiotics.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	It's short for....Mother of All Deepfryers.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[21:33]	MinceR	wat
[21:34]	DaemonFC	No?
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Every year, people still manage to cause deep fryer explosions.
[21:34]	MinceR	lol
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Typically, they take a turkey that's been frozen solid and they drop it directly into a deep fryer, in their garage sometimes.
[21:35]	DaemonFC	You're supposed to leave it in your refrigerator for 4-5 days and then either put it in the oven until the timer pops up or take the timer out and put it down into the deep fryer.
[21:35]	techrights-news	Julian Andres Klode: APT Z3 Solver Basics Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158229 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Julian Andres Klode: APT Z3 Solver Basics | Tux Machines
[21:36]	DaemonFC	But people take a frozen turkey and make a deep fryer bomb out of it.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Every single year.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Regular as the Fourth of July incidents with the fireworks explosions.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Sign this form.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	"Yes, I am over 18, unfortunately my IQ isn't."
[21:37]	schestowitz	MinceR put a video here of someone pouring lots of ice into boiling oil
[21:37]	MinceR	lol
[21:37]	schestowitz	iirc, 10 litres of ice
[21:37]	MinceR	yeah
[21:38]	schestowitz	acid attack
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[21:39]	techrights-news	#HowTo install Blender on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xXyYoyecLTs #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
[21:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Blender on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious
[21:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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[21:40]	DaemonFC	I remember someone saying that DARE came to his school and the cops started talking about all of the people who died of marijuana overdoses.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	And he asked one of them, "Can you name three?" and this 7 year old had the cops running for cover.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	No more questions!
[21:41]	schestowitz	<DaemonFChttps://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Thank the officers, kids!
[21:41]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
[21:41]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/16/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
[21:41]	schestowitz	sales BEFORE fda
[21:41]	schestowitz	wth?
[21:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Pfizer seeks FDA approval for covid-19 pill regimen, strikes global manufacturing deal - The Washington Post
[21:41]	DaemonFC	They've already been told green light.
[21:42]	DaemonFC	Now time for the pretend vote.
[21:43]	techrights-news	Greedy and corrupt #AstraZeneza (it bribed my colleagues at university on patenting life and nature for profit http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/patenting-antibodies-epitope-claim-is.html #patent #patents #insanity
[21:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Patenting Antibodies: The epitope claim is dead, long live the epitope claim - The IPKat
[21:44]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: after many resigned in protest
[21:44]	schestowitz	Sheriff Biden will take advice from lobbyists 
[21:44]	schestowitz	this is how countries perish
[21:44]	schestowitz	your whole system is bought already
[21:44]	schestowitz	ours is also awful, nut nowhere near as bad
[21:44]	schestowitz	US is a cautionary tale to us
[21:45]	schestowitz	what happens if we do not organise
[21:45]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: any plans for articles tonight?
[21:45]	schestowitz	I've run out of topics tbh
[21:45]	schestowitz	I have GitHub schedules for tomorrow, as on every Monday
[21:45]	DaemonFC	I don't have anything in the pipe.
[21:46]	DaemonFC	I wrote about the media circus around Rittenhouse and his scumbucket "victims".
[21:46]	DaemonFC	But that was political.
[21:46]	schestowitz	I think it distracts
[21:46]	schestowitz	[19:16] <techrights-news> The upper class with its #corporateMedia is riling up racial conflicts, using #racism to wing up inciting groups of poor people against one another while all the capital is stolen at the top https://stallman.org/archives//2021-sep-dec.html#21_November_2021_(Kyle_Rittenhouse_acquitted)
[21:46]	DaemonFC	For some reason, it got a lot of hits from Israel.
[21:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: September - December Political Notes - Richard Stallman
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[21:46]	schestowitz	the media covets this like it's the most important news in the whole world
[21:47]	schestowitz	when in fact the case is quote trivial
[21:47]	activelow	schestowitz: i didn't say azure was everywhere; I cited Microsoft itself who boast about billions of deployments of their Azure ThreadX RTOS
[21:47]	schestowitz	it's not like cold-blooded murder where police enters the home of some nurse in TN and shoots her
[21:47]	schestowitz	(real story)
[21:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Two less offenders in the world. Gaige will have to use his good arm to choke grandma and bash out his girlfriend's windows and drive drunk now.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	He's suing about this.
[21:48]	schestowitz	I think the story has been cherry-picked for racial value
[21:48]	DaemonFC	There's nothing about race here at all.
[21:48]	schestowitz	get the white derilicts angry 
[21:48]	DaemonFC	All three of these shitheads are white.
[21:48]	schestowitz	get the blacks angry
[21:48]	schestowitz	stir up some riots
[21:48]	DaemonFC	He picked off three white losers. No racial shit involved.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	Media made it all up.
[21:49]	schestowitz	anyway, back on topic 
[21:49]	schestowitz	I am looking through patent news
[21:49]	schestowitz	zoobab isn't on this network atm
[21:49]	schestowitz	but it looks like we drove away a lot of team UPC
[21:49]	schestowitz	and Phoronix does not mention Microsoft at all... for like a week now
[21:49]	schestowitz	which I suppose is what we wanted
[21:51]	DaemonFC	Someone abandoned a car in our lot. Dodge Neon with two tires blown out. One's shredded.
[21:51]	DaemonFC	Looks like they've just let it completely break down and then dumped it here.
[21:51]	techrights-news	Stone(d)-cold lawyers see #narcotics as just another #profit opportunity and the media they bribe plays along https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vhl3zcblghps/inta-2021-cannabis-alcohol-and-gambling-counsel-share-top-trademark-tips #inta #greed
[21:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | INTA 2021: Cannabis, alcohol and gambling counsel share top trademark tips | Managing Intellectual Property
[21:52]	techrights-news	"Still waiting for evidence on that claim. Be interested to see how this claim plays out with the UPC. I doubt German attorneys are even worried of such a threat."#unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/breaking-mercer-review-on-uk-patent.html?showComment=1637229201253#c7311907315575377025
[21:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Mercer Review on UK patent attorney exams released - The IPKat
[21:52]	psydruid	I guess Phoronix wasn't amused by not being mentioned here anymore
[21:52]	schestowitz	quite the contrary
[21:52]	schestowitz	he WAS mentioned here more
[21:53]	schestowitz	but without links to his site
[21:53]	schestowitz	tuxmachines was his second-biggest traffic source, based on Alexa.com
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[21:54]	techrights-news	#Patent #litigation companies help the EPO distract from its corruption and crimes by #greenwashing of patents while totally ignoring any form of sane analysis. PR first, laws and facts never. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=c3234276-21b0-44fd-a9aa-4bb08e618b7e
[21:54]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=c3234276-21b0-44fd-a9aa-4bb08e618b7e
[21:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How will patents and policies help solve the plastic problem? - Lexology
[21:56]	techrights-news	#patent bubbles bursting https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/challenge-to-patent-board-disclaimer-rule-rejected-on-appeal #ptab #patents #fakepatents
[21:56]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: bloomberglaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/challenge-to-patent-board-disclaimer-rule-rejected-on-appeal
[21:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE
[21:58]	activelow	https://hackaday.com/2021/11/18/c-is-the-greenest-programming-language/
[21:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-C Is The Greenest Programming Language | Hackaday
[21:58]	activelow	the report is fraudulent
[21:59]	activelow	C++ is far worse than it's listing indicates
[21:59]	activelow	Java too
[21:59]	activelow	each for different reasons
[21:59]	techrights-news	Bad practice: #www and esp. #socialcontrolmedia discourage people from reading long texts. We need fewer of these tools. https://www.maketecheasier.com/5-useful-tools-to-summarize-articles-online/
[21:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 6 of the Best Online Summarizer Tools to Shorten Text - Make Tech Easier
[21:59]	activelow	c++ is resource usage horror because of the compiler, java is horror because of the framework chaos and clusterfuck
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[22:00]	activelow	remembering j2ee/spring-framework... their IoC dependency injection, based on reflection mechanism, it's a memory and resource hog
[22:00]		*activelow is catchinup up
[22:00]	techrights-news	#OSNews now boosting #microsoft attack on #gnu #linux (known as WeaSeL). See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WSL
[22:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WSL - Techrights
[22:01]	schestowitz	activelow: memory use isn't the issue
[22:01]	schestowitz	for power usage
[22:01]	schestowitz	the main issue then is,
[22:01]	activelow	what else, psydruid: it isn't specific to video games, the entire industry is fraud and scam, to push sales with electronic waste
[22:01]	schestowitz	you need newer and beefier machines
[22:01]	schestowitz	they can sometimes take up more energy
[22:02]	schestowitz	also, there's the cost associated with development and deployment
[22:02]	activelow	c++ compilation performance is horror
[22:02]	schestowitz	but you compile just once
[22:02]	schestowitz	or several times on one machine (developers')
[22:02]	schestowitz	I think they gauge the pollution or power levels after it's compiled as binary 
[22:02]	activelow	only saying this, c++ is far worse than reported
[22:03]	schestowitz	MATLAB is terriible
[22:03]	schestowitz	I assume the same for all interpreted stuff
[22:03]	schestowitz	even Octave
[22:03]	schestowitz	they say perl and python are bad
[22:03]	activelow	disagree, perl and python are far less troublesome than c++
[22:04]	activelow	i consider C, Perl and Python among the "green" languages
[22:04]	activelow	c++ and java certainly not
[22:04]	activelow	didn't use matlab in 15 years
[22:06]	activelow	what else, psydruid: it isn't specific to video games, the entire industry is fraud and scam, to push sales with electronic waste
[22:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I refused to use the self-checkouts again today.
[22:07]	DaemonFC	If they're going to go off and accuse me of theft because they're calibrated to be too sensitive, while some fat hippo woman just straight up runs out the front door (insofar as you can call it running) with expensive bottles of liquor.....
[22:07]	DaemonFC	Not only fuck their self-checkouts, but fuck them for wasting my time dealing with them.
[22:10]	schestowitz	why bother?
[22:10]	schestowitz	go to a till
[22:10]	schestowitz	if queue too long, complain
[22:10]	schestowitz	then leave
[22:10]	schestowitz	they will get the message eventually
[22:10]	schestowitz	esp. if the clients leaves a cart
[22:10]	schestowitz	next time they'll staff up
[22:11]	schestowitz	we need tioo change a culture
[22:11]	schestowitz	and make people proud to reject those machines
[22:11]	schestowitz	not smug
[22:11]	schestowitz	just reasonable
[22:11]	schestowitz	protecting people's jobs
[22:11]	schestowitz	if each person reaches a few more to do it, we'll win
[22:12]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: a bit off topic https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3156524/europe-decoupling-china-wouldnt-be-right-angela-merkel-says
[22:12]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: scmp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3156524/europe-decoupling-china-wouldnt-be-right-angela-merkel-says
[22:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Europe decoupling from China wouldnt be right, Angela Merkel says | South China Morning Post
[22:12]	schestowitz	they thought EPO in Germany would bring in business
[22:13]	schestowitz	also from China
[22:13]	schestowitz	turns out, it's not as rosy as they hoped
[22:13]	schestowitz	eventually china will also make its own decent cars and heavy machinery 
[22:13]	schestowitz	activelow: thoughts?
[22:15]	techrights-news	Another very busy day gemini-wise. Over 30k page requests for today. I wonder if we'll exceed a million per month some time next year. #geminiProtocol is awesome, with very high s/n ratio, unlike the #www ... TRY IT!! http://techrights.org/gemini/
[22:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights on Gemini | Techrights
[22:17]	techrights-news	Wow, a whole bucket of #patent deplorables: "Lexology, iam, GAR, and Charles Rivers Associates (CRA) will hosting a webinar entitled "The Intersection of Intellectual Property and International Arbitration: Quantum and Valuation (Part 1)"" (Quantum??????)
[22:19]	techrights-news	With so many #fakepatents coming from the #EPO these days, we might see more of this https://www.potterclarkson.com/insights/uk-patents-court-declines-stay-of-infringement-proceedings-relating-to-patent-for-treatment-of-insomnia/ c.f. http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/
[22:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.potterclarkson.com | UK Patents Court Declines Stay of Infringement | Potter Clarkson
[22:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights
[22:20]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-12-21-15.jpg
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[22:21]	techrights-news	Thankfully, more people have come to realise that when it comes to #COVID19 the #patents kill and the #patent extremists are a threat to the lives of millions of humans. They're starting to organise and demand action. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/11/us-trade-representative-responds-to-letters-from-senators-regarding-trips-waiver.html
[22:21]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: patentdocs.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/11/us-trade-representative-responds-to-letters-from-senators-regarding-trips-waiver.html
[22:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: U.S. Trade Representative Responds to Letters from Senators Regarding TRIPS Waiver
[22:22]	schestowitz	MinceR: voodoo doll
[22:22]	schestowitz	with stake going through the body
[22:22]	MinceR	:>
[22:23]	schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21990547
[22:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Manufacturing defect https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-12-21-15.jpg a HARD sell...
[22:25]	techrights-news	What " #DABUS debate"? An obnoxious troll using up university budget to rick-roll #patent offices and courts around the world to insist computer programs -- like pets or even worse -- are inventors? Why does the patent extremists' media want to give it so much attention? They discredit the system. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vh25bz9g6zxl/judge-meade-why-skeleton-brevity-can-help-ease-complexity
[22:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Judge Meade: why skeleton brevity can help ease complexity | Managing Intellectual Property
[22:28]	techrights-news	It is no secret that the #Patent Trial and Appeal Board ( #PTAB ) often leverages its discretionary denial powers to deny inter parties review (IPR) petitions." More barriers to swatting fake #patents granted just for financial reasons (self-enrichment) by #USPTO . https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ptab-denies-ipr-institutions-without-3680123/
[22:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PTAB Denies IPR Institutions Without Patent Owner Rebuttal Evidence | Jones Day - JDSupra
[22:32]	DaemonFC	https://devblogs.microsoft.com/java/announcing-preview-of-microsoft-build-of-openjdk/
[22:32]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devblogs.microsoft.com/java/announcing-preview-of-microsoft-build-of-openjdk/
[22:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-devblogs.microsoft.com | Announcing Microsoft Build of OpenJDK - Java at Microsoft
[22:32]	DaemonFC	Microsoft build of OpenJDK. LOL
[22:33]	MinceR	lol
[22:33]	MinceR	yet another visual java
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[22:36]	schestowitz	i remember that...
[22:38]	techrights-news	List of new #irc networks (almost 100 of them known to Netsplit DE) https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant
[22:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE
[22:38]	techrights-news	Linux 5.16-rc2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158230 #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.16-rc2 | Tux Machines
[22:38]	techrights-news	#Q4OS 4.7 Gemini, stable Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158231 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 4.7 Gemini, stable | Tux Machines
[22:39]	techrights-news	Install Gnome Vanilla on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS focal fossa - Linux Shout https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-gnome-vanilla-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-focal-fossa/ #how2shout | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
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[22:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.how2shout.com | Install Gnome Vanilla on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS focal fossa - Linux Shout
[22:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[22:40]	techrights-news	"It has already recruited former U.S. Army intelligence analyst and #whistleblower #ChelseaManning , who leaked thousands of classified documents using the privacy software Tor." #assange #wikileaks #privacy https://www.newsbtc.com/news/company/privacy-startup-nym-technology-raises-13-million-in-series-a-funding-round-led-by-andreessen-horowitz/
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[22:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsbtc.com | Privacy Startup Nym Technology Raises $13 Million in Series A Funding Round Led by Andreessen Horowitz
[22:42]	psydruid	Microsoft is still in denial about the company being basically irrelevant now
[22:43]	schestowitz	it is not entirely true
[22:43]	schestowitz	and writing it off like this at our own peril would be unwise
[22:43]	schestowitz	but certainly fighting back against them helps
[22:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Instead of Brave Search, Private Tabs with Tor still open in DuckDuckGo.
[22:43]	schestowitz	like... Friedman getting canned
[22:43]	schestowitz	de Icaza getting angry at him
[22:44]	schestowitz	the LF entryism basically dooming the LF itself
[22:44]	psydruid	I've considered Microsoft irrelevant for the past 20 years now
[22:44]	schestowitz	and the project "CANCEL RMS" failing so badly that the only cancelled people are Bully de Blanc and Deb Nicholson
[22:44]	schestowitz	psydruid: yes, they peaked in the late 90s
[22:45]	schestowitz	there was almost nothing else on PCs
[22:45]	psydruid	of course they try to force themselves into positions of authority, but that isn't working out all that well either
[22:45]	schestowitz	even Apple was dying
[22:45]	schestowitz	Apple rebounded
[22:45]	schestowitz	psydruid: it is expensive
[22:45]	schestowitz	and it distracts them
[22:45]	schestowitz	they cannot make good products
[22:45]	schestowitz	ZUNE, AZUNE, Windows, WM, WP
[22:45]	schestowitz	they're too focused trying to sink their rivals
[22:46]	schestowitz	it works only temporarily
[22:46]	schestowitz	GPL helps us
[22:46]	schestowitz	they cannot sink the code itself
[22:46]	schestowitz	Shithub is collapsing
[22:46]	schestowitz	you will see in the series over the coming months
[22:46]	schestowitz	I did some voice conversations and have thousands of lines of notes
[22:47]	schestowitz	seeing github melting away will be more fun than codeplex
[22:47]	schestowitz	because THEY STARTED AS LEADER
[22:47]	schestowitz	same as SKYPE
[22:47]	schestowitz	and they then become one of many
[22:47]	DaemonFC	CPU: Quad Core 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1165G7 (-MT MCP-) 
[22:47]	DaemonFC	speed/min/max: 775/400/4700 MHz Kernel: 5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 x86_64 
[22:47]	DaemonFC	Up: 3h 45m Mem: 3959.4/15791.5 MiB (25.1%) Storage: 4.1 TiB (8.9% used) 
[22:47]	DaemonFC	Procs: 316 Shell: fish inxi: 3.3.01 
[22:47]	schestowitz	money down the drain
[22:47]	schestowitz	wow, 11gen
[22:47]	schestowitz	rianne is 5gen
[22:47]	DaemonFC	Shell fish is okay unless the user is allergic to shell fish, of course.
[22:47]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[22:47]	MinceR	:>
[22:48]	MinceR	i prefer zsh to fish
[22:49]	psydruid	well, just wait until 20gen comes out
[22:49]	psydruid	that will change everything
[22:50]	techrights-news	HEY HIIIIIIIIIII.... HEY HI INSURANCE!!! HAY. HAI. #buzzwords #bullshot #fakeJournalism https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/1-strong-ai-based-insurance-stock-that-isnt-lemonade-2021-11-20
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[22:50]	kingoffrance	eh, there was sourceforge and whatever else, freshmeat.   i mean, github's big thing was git seemingly.   it always seemed like one of many
[22:50]	kingoffrance	and, specifically, people who want to do things in a browser
[22:50]	kingoffrance	a subset of git people
[22:50]	DaemonFC	https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/11/21/woman-swallows-airpod-instead-of-painkiller-records-audio-from-stomach
[22:50]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/11/21/woman-swallows-airpod-instead-of-painkiller-records-audio-from-stomach
[22:51]	techrights-news	WOW!! Talk aoout #greenwashing ... it's widely known #bitcoin is a source of #pollution ... no matter how you spin it https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-large-scale-bitcoin-mining-is-driving-clean-energy-innovation-2021-11-20 also a source of #ewaste
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[22:51]	DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer
[22:51]	DaemonFC	You have to admit that's stupid even for an Apple customer. I wonder if she put a basin in her toilet. Just one of those things is $150 worth of SBC codec in plastic, you know!
[22:51]	kingoffrance	i thought linus had a few comments how github messes some things up that git alone handles
[22:52]	techrights-news	This is not #Email ; this is Web page crap disguised as E-mail and a misuse of the protocol https://www.laptopmag.com/au/how-to/psa-turn-off-email-tracking-heres-how
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[22:54]	techrights-news	#Australia just talks about improving #patent quality but isn't quite getting there; the incentive patent offices have it to grant loads of junk because of fee collection https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/11/raising-bar-has-not-reduced-patent.html #patents #au
[22:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Mandy thought I was cheap because I took a pair of scissors and gave him part of a magic eraser (Walmart brand).
[22:56]	techrights-news	#Lexology may be dying. It now experiments with #upselling and #paywalls (which lowers incentive to go to that site and makes a lot of stuff invisible, not discoverable). Sites typically try this as the last step before dying.
[22:57]	techrights-news	Recognition that #greenwashing makes you a laughing stock, subject of ridicule https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vhxmy9t86yrs/in-house-eco-conscious-brands-must-be-wary-of-greenwashing consider corrupt #epo http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/
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[23:04]	techrights-news	Links 21/11/2021: Q4OS 4.7 Gemini and Second Linux RC Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/q4os-4-7-gemini/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/21/q4os-4-7-gemini/
[23:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/11/2021: Q4OS 4.7 Gemini and Second Linux RC | Techrights
[23:05]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX and more Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158233 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos and more | Tux Machines
[23:06]	techrights-news	Oh! Vulpes is finally back online today!! After almost a month! https://proxy.vulpes.one/ good news for #geminispace and #geminiprotocol
[23:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-proxy.vulpes.one | Gopher/Gemini proxy
[23:07]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/apple-customer-accidentally-swallows-airpod-while-on-a-call/
[23:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple customer accidentally swallows Airpod while on a call. BaronHK's Rants
[23:12]	schestowitz	:-oooo
[23:13]	techrights-news	"I say when you buy an Apple product, you already get one great big incredibly expensive pile of shit. (In the case of Airpods, they didnt even follow the specification for the simple Subband Codec properly.)" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/apple-customer-accidentally-swallows-airpod-while-on-a-call/
[23:14]	techrights-news	#vulpes gemini -> https proxy has been down for nearly 4 weeks. Now it's back again. It's my favourite #geminiProtocol proxy for #geminiSpace
[23:15]	techrights-news	#Microsoft #GitHub Expos Part VII due to be released tomorrow morning. Part 6: http://techrights.org/2021/11/15/nat-friedman-revisionism/
[23:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VI The Media Has Mischaracterised Nat Friedmans Departure (Effective Now) | Techrights
[23:17]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/weekend-random-randomness-11-21-21-14.jpg
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[23:19]	techrights-news	"Solskjaer was dismissed on Sunday, a day after United lost 4-1 at Watford." And what next? #manutd thinks it can keep making people fall on their sword, then shuffle, then miracle? Same as #chelsea and #tottenham https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59367566
[23:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: Manchester United 'scrambling and reacting' as Norwegian sacked - BBC Sport
[23:23]	techrights-news	#fakepatents #germany #sap #swpats #uspto https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/16/sap_patent_not_inventive_enough/
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[23:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | SAP patent not inventive enough to be protected, judge rules The Register
[23:24]	techrights-news	New Stricter Rules For Domain Name Registration In #Denmark https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1125680/new-stricter-rules-for-domain-name-registration-in-denmark #dk #Trademarks #Trademark
[23:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | New Stricter Rules For Domain Name Registration In Denmark - Intellectual Property - Denmark
[23:28]	techrights-news	#Dehns is just a den of liars, e.g. lying about the #UPC for years before realising that lying was bad for the #lawyers and the #law firm; in this case, they want you to think #confidentiality is possible without end-to-end encryption, which no law firm really uses (they're clueless and careless) Essential Information On Confidentiality https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1131504/essential-information-on-confidentiality
[23:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Essential Information On Confidentiality - Intellectual Property - UK
[23:28]	techrights-news	Now only does the #epo not get #confidentiality ; it actively breaks the #law with #microsoft and nobody seems to do anything about it: http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/
[23:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights
[23:31]	techrights-news	Sounds like a #lobbying career; the #patent maximalists lobby offers much money for corrupt officials looking to undermine #science end #law (ask Mr. Coons) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vfdncjgswn84/omalley-to-pursue-patent-policy-work-after-federal-circuit http://techrights.org/2019/05/26/senators-tillis-and-coons/
[23:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | OMalley to pursue patent policy work after Federal Circuit | Managing Intellectual Property
[23:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Much Ado About Senators Tillis and Coons (Who Failed in 2017 and in 2018) | Techrights
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[23:33]	techrights-news	#Microsoft -Captured #USPTO Doubles the Fines for #Patent Applicants That Dont Use Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/11/20/microsoft-captured-uspto/ #ooxml @zoobab
[23:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Captured USPTO Doubles the Fines for Patent Applicants That Dont Use Microsoft | Techrights
[23:34]	techrights-news	#HowTo install #TuxGuitar on #GNU #Linux https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/tuxguitar-linux/ #addictivetips | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/21/#latest
[23:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to install TuxGuitar on Linux
[23:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[23:39]	techrights-news	"We all know, The Weekly Challenge a.k.a #Perl Weekly Challenge started on 25th March 2019." https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/1000-days/ #programming
[23:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweeklychallenge.org | The Weekly Challenge - 1000 days
[23:43]	psydruid	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/greece
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[23:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Greece | Statcounter Global Stats
[23:44]	techrights-news	#gnu #linux approaching 10% market share in #greece h https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/greece
[23:44]		-altlink_668/#techrights- Cloudflare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/greece
[23:44]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158234 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:45]	techrights-news	#Pinta Open-Source Drawing and Image Editing Software Scores Another Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158232 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines (sadly, #mono infects it...)
[23:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pinta Open-Source Drawing and Image Editing Software Scores Another Update | Tux Machines
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[23:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Youtube ads are so annoying that I gave up on using a streaming box for that.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	Mandy was over there whining about all of the commercials.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	He said "There's no way around it!".
[23:48]	techrights-news	Notice how quite #teamUPC got these past two weeks. #unitaryPatent is 99% #fakenews (faked optimism) and #unifiedPatenrCourt 'preparations' are an act of grifting... trying to profit from something that will never come. #corruption #europe
[23:48]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: I don't link to Gulag YouTube anymor
[23:48]	schestowitz	ads are part of a set of problems
[23:48]	DaemonFC	So I plugged the HDMI cable into my laptop and tore off a Brave tab into the TV and ran his show on that and maximized it.
[23:48]	schestowitz	like, you cannot accesss anything there w/o javascript and a slew of other crap
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Brave Adblock kills YouTube ads.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Problem solved.
[23:49]	schestowitz	or
[23:49]	schestowitz	use librewolf
[23:49]	schestowitz	seems to block it out of the box
[23:49]	schestowitz	another option is Invidious
[23:49]	schestowitz	psydruid: Ole sacked today
[23:49]	DaemonFC	I have so many lists in uBO. Brave Adblock supports the same syntax.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	So I have a lot of lists in that too.
[23:50]	psydruid	schestowitz, that's why I said Ole Ole Ole earlier today
[23:50]	schestowitz	ah, I see
[23:50]	psydruid	and MinceR responded with Kpart Kpart Kpart
[23:50]	schestowitz	I didn't get it back then
[23:50]	schestowitz	English syndrome
[23:50]	schestowitz	some clubs sack so fact
[23:50]	schestowitz	Nuno at Tottenham
[23:51]	schestowitz	and that Dutch guy, de something, in Crystal palance iirc
[23:51]	schestowitz	de bohr?
[23:51]	schestowitz	after just 4 matches
[23:51]	psydruid	Frank de Boer
[23:51]	schestowitz	it's laughable
[23:51]	schestowitz	btw Saudi Newcastle bottom of the table
[23:51]	schestowitz	if that's not improving they'lll start tossing footballers into some oven
[23:52]	psydruid	there is just too much money involved so you don't get the time to build a team and have to have success now
[23:52]	psydruid	or even yesterday
[23:52]	schestowitz	yeah
[23:52]	schestowitz	and they worry the players will leave
[23:52]	schestowitz	so they need to "do something"
[23:52]	schestowitz	to appease social control media
[23:52]	schestowitz	zidane not interested
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[23:53]	psydruid	the best coaches aren't coming to Newcastle and Man United
[23:53]	schestowitz	well, why not?
[23:53]	psydruid	why would Erik ten Hag, who is doing a formidable job at Ajax, move to either club mid-season?
[23:53]	schestowitz	Good players to work with...
[23:53]	schestowitz	TOT got Conte
[23:54]	schestowitz	I think Chelsea fired him for being abrasive with players
[23:54]	schestowitz	after that they lost many key players
[23:54]	schestowitz	never recovered
[23:54]	schestowitz	CL was just luck
[23:54]	schestowitz	Man City keeps managers for about 5 years
[23:55]	schestowitz	LCFC sacked Ranieri only months after he became a hero
[23:55]	schestowitz	put the whole city "on the map"
[23:55]	psydruid	Guardiola is one of the best, though
[23:55]	schestowitz	what a cruel system
[23:55]	psydruid	year after year at club after club
[23:55]	schestowitz	well, it's not fair
[23:55]	schestowitz	he gets into the best clubs
[23:56]	schestowitz	so he just needs to maintain their status
[23:56]	schestowitz	no CL title since barca ages ago
[23:57]	psydruid	and he gets to spend hundreds of millions
[23:57]	psydruid	he's leaving in 2023
[23:58]	schestowitz	I wanted to say something else about chelsea but forgot
[23:58]	schestowitz	it wasn't so important anyway
[23:58]	schestowitz	but all those volatile clubs, like united, cannot recover
[23:58]	schestowitz	they blow away tons of money and never find stability
[23:58]	schestowitz	psydruid: his contrast lasts until then, he can extend it afaik
[23:59]	schestowitz	if he performs well, he might choose to stay
[23:59]	psydruid	it seems you can still have that kind of stability in smaller leagues
[23:59]	schestowitz	manchester is still developing as a city
[23:59]	psydruid	but in premier league you need instant success
[23:59]	psydruid	or you're out
[23:59]	schestowitz	iirc, juventus wanted him
[23:59]	schestowitz	anyway, conta was fantastic in chelsea