●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, December 21, 2020 ●● ● Dec 21 [00:00] psydroid That's good to know [00:00] psydroid Even though I don't really play games [00:00] MinceR you get more input lag though :> [00:01] psydroid I think I have a Steam account, but I've never done anything with it [00:01] psydroid I probably don't even remember the credentials [00:24] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/g1mRDtj.jpg [00:28] XRevan86 MinceR: That's so big! [00:29] XRevan86 Is it bigger than Texas? [00:30] MinceR two football fields? no, they aren't [00:55] XRevan86 MinceR: So the universe is somewhere in between [00:56] MinceR lol [00:57] *psymin has quit (*.net *.split) [00:57] *balrog has quit (*.net *.split) ● Dec 21 [01:00] XRevan86 Esperanto is beautiful: for instance, "putinhajlo" is a correct compound noun in it. [01:01] XRevan86 ("j" is the first consonant of "yes") [01:17] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [01:17] *balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [01:18] MinceR :) [01:19] MinceR that's not the equivalent to , is it? [01:45] XRevan86 MinceR: No, that means whore hail [01:51] MinceR lol ● Dec 21 [02:03] DaemonFC[m] Why get a steam account when the pirates just rip the games out and patch them so they work right? [02:15] *psydroid just plays free software and retrogames once in a while [02:18] MinceR occasionally they do giveaways [02:19] MinceR i played portal through such a giveaway [02:28] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, and I suppose I could play some of those free games my last laptop didn't support. [02:30] MinceR (of course, so do other platforms, including GOG, who don't even do DRM) ● Dec 21 [03:27] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Dec 21 [04:57] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:57] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Dec 21 [05:07] DaemonFC[m] https://hothardware.com/news/windows-10-20h2-update-damages-ssd-file-systems-chkdsk [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 20H2 Update Reportedly Damages SSD File Systems If You Run ChkDsk | HotHardware [05:13] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:14] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:16] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:16] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:17] *rianne__ has quit (Client Quit) [05:17] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:17] *rianne__ has quit (Client Quit) [05:18] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:21] *rianne_ has quit (Client Quit) [05:21] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:25] DaemonFC[m] This is just embarrassing. [05:25] DaemonFC[m] I mean how how does chkdsk screw up like this? There haven't been any on disk format changes to NTFS since Windows XP according to Wikipedia. [05:29] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: No route to host) [05:30] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:32] *rianne__ has quit (Client Quit) [05:32] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:35] schestowitz [23:53] Don't fall for the overpriced laptop gimmick [05:35] schestowitz someone just sent me https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2020/12/how-and-why-i-stopped-buying-new-laptops.html [05:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solar.lowtechmagazine.com | How and why I stopped buying newlaptops | LOWTECH MAGAZINE [05:40] schestowitz [21:40] (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/705738.webm [05:40] schestowitz LOL [05:40] schestowitz that was unexpected [05:56] DaemonFC[m] CNN had a Cyperpunk 2077 is broken and here's what to play instead. [05:57] DaemonFC[m] When they mentioned "Cloudpunk" and then went something something you get to fly a hover car, I knew it would be crap. [05:58] DaemonFC[m] Ohhh, Terminator Resistance. Wonder if that's any good? ● Dec 21 [06:01] schestowitz I took FSFE to court. This is my story https://write.as/malinagalina/i-took-fsfe-to-court oh, wow. [06:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | --------- I took FSFE to court. malinagalina [06:06] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Dec 21 [07:06] DaemonFC[m] https://www.guidingtech.com/uninstall-remove-onedrive-windows/ [07:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.guidingtech.com | A Guide to Uninstall OneDrive Completely From Windows [07:06] DaemonFC[m] Somehow it manages to take up 150 MB of the SSD to give you 5 GB of "free space" on Microsoft's clown. [07:06] DaemonFC[m] Hard pass. [07:10] DaemonFC[m] Might as well get rid of the "Feedback Hub". [07:10] DaemonFC[m] Bunch of people who can't spell using it as an unmoderated alt-Nazi platform. [07:14] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [07:41] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeEERdbfH0c [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple slaves REVOLT, destroy factory over $7/month pay - YouTube [07:41] scientes this is quite sad [07:41] scientes neoliberalism is a religion [07:42] scientes it is so clear they would get better results with better pay [07:42] scientes this is the real reason China will win [07:43] scientes (and Russia's serf culture prevents it from doing much domestic manufacturing, to its detriment) ● Dec 21 [08:05] scientes It is quite something to be able to tell a iPhone owner that people that make those things literally set the factory on fire. [08:06] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCC3zab3io [08:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Taiwan's Apple factory in India was smashed by 2000 people - YouTube [08:08] scientes while I wouldn't put it above the CCP to incite something like that I don't see any evidence of it yet [08:20] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:23] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) ● Dec 21 [09:07] *notanamber has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:57] *genr8_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [09:59] schestowitz > It looks like you are doing well. Be thankful for any government response [09:59] schestowitz > better than the cruelty inflicted here. [09:59] schestowitz > [09:59] schestowitz > Needless to say, details here are confidential. People at the hospital are [09:59] schestowitz > under an effective information lockdown, much as they were for the ransomware [09:59] schestowitz > attack. That is part of the unimaginable awfulness here and a part that [09:59] schestowitz > every other disaster just makes worse. [09:59] schestowitz Many people are nowadays learning about or becoming aware of the dangers of Windows ransomware in hospitals. ● Dec 21 [10:05] *genr8_ (~genr8_@unaffiliated/genbtc) has joined #techrights [10:09] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [10:14] scientes hospitals also have devices where the power supply is linked to the device, so that if the transformer goes out you must but a whole new machine [10:14] scientes instead of just a new power supply [10:15] scientes the US is just a giant pyramid scheme and game of musical chairs [10:15] scientes with a massive parasitical load [10:16] scientes everybody switched careers to roles that revolve around swindling people [10:16] scientes so much so that even the engineering diciplines are heavily infected [10:24] search_social yeah [10:39] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-nfxlfkezujmlbjaa) has joined #techrights [10:40] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Dec 21 [11:08] *gry has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:14] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-wlethacyazzpoepe) has joined #techrights [11:51] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 21 [12:08] *Sajesajama (Salsa@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sajesajama) has joined #techrights [12:34] Ariadne significant gender pay gaps at FSFE: https://write.as/malinagalina/i-took-fsfe-to-court [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | --------- I took FSFE to court. malinagalina ● Dec 21 [13:08] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:21] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-xsbpaqvidcqefcdc) has joined #techrights [13:21] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:25] schestowitz Ariadne: thanks, saw it half a day ago, it's in tuxmachines with comments for follow-ups [13:25] schestowitz I also sent it to Daniel [13:41] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-edtadmdsutjmksbo) has joined #techrights ● Dec 21 [14:06] Ariadne honestly FSFE is a huge disappointment [14:06] Ariadne i always thought of them as having their shit together better than FSF [14:06] Ariadne but turns out they are a really broken organization [14:06] Ariadne it is truly unfortunat [14:06] Ariadne e [14:08] schestowitz georg was ok [14:08] schestowitz sometimes when an org passed to another person the devotion isn't there and the org gets milked [14:13] schestowitz Ariadne: https://fsfellowship.eu/court-case-fsfe-women-and-volunteers-face-modern-day-slavery/ [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.eu | Court case: Matthias Kirschner, FSFE women and volunteers face modern day slavery [14:13] MinceR the FSF is broken as well [14:13] MinceR so it might still be true :> [14:15] Ariadne FSF is broken in many way [14:15] Ariadne one silver lining of the stallman resignation was that perhaps they would have a course change [14:16] Ariadne unfortunately does not seem to be [14:16] MinceR i did not expect that to happen [14:16] MinceR they were full of pro-cancerd crybullies already before they cancelled RMS [14:16] Ariadne instead, it is just more poorly thought out campaigns that antagonize the general public for using windows [14:17] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:17] Ariadne systemd being a badly designed software does not mean it is non-free (: [14:17] Ariadne it is copyleft [14:18] XRevan86 Navalny called one of his FSB poisoners on a phone and got confirmation and additional details. [14:18] Ariadne yeah [14:19] Ariadne i was reading that story [14:19] Ariadne fucking wild [14:19] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: What is pretty shocking is that the "Windows Ransomware Protection" actually breaks legitimate applications and also doesn't work and that Microsoft admits they have no plans to fix that. [14:19] XRevan86 To show that after the Putin's weak-ass babbling on the press-conference I am thoroughly impressed. [14:19] DaemonFC[m] It basically sets write protection on some folders so that normal file access doesn't work unless something is whitelisted to write there. [14:20] DaemonFC[m] So in theory your documents and pictures and stuff are safe from being encrypted by ransomware. But there are other ways to write there, but legitimate applications would never do that. [14:20] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/21/i-called-my-killer-and-he-confessed [14:20] DaemonFC[m] So it breaks applications for no security gain. [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [14:20] Ariadne hmmph [14:20] Ariadne i broke resize [14:20] Ariadne on my compositor [14:21] DaemonFC[m] "Putter", the GNOME compositing manager. [14:21] DaemonFC[m] That should be what it's called. It putters around, even on a good computer. [14:22] DaemonFC[m] Wayland simply makes things much worse. Canonical patched up some of the performance problems on X11 that GNOME was never going to fix. [14:23] DaemonFC[m] But now with the X11 server being mothballed upstream to force people to use Wayland even as it doesn't perform well and many applications will never be ported to it properly, you won't have a choice. [14:24] scientes MinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Krr6EwuOQ [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Solve Cancel Culture (Scientifically Proven Cure) - YouTube [14:24] DaemonFC[m] Which is how Red Hat always ends up foisting crap that doesn't work on people, and pretty soon their cargo cult over at Debian will have a "vote" to ship the same configuration. [14:25] scientes Woman want money to work? [14:25] scientes Who knew? [14:25] DaemonFC[m] This situation around "It's modern so who cares if it actually works?" got completely out of hand some time ago. [14:25] *scientes thought they only wanted money for sex [14:26] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: As for UWP, it's basically going away as its own thing. [14:26] *smnthermes has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [14:26] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft essentially admitted that uptake was poor even as they tried closing off the new APIs to applications from outside their store. [14:26] XRevan86 Ariadne: Do you think the UN will act now that all the allegations that Russia used chemical weapons are proven to be true? [14:26] DaemonFC[m] So they're removing the fencing around the APIs and they'll just be available to everyone eventually. [14:26] scientes they automatically accuse EVERYONE of using chemical weapons [14:27] scientes it is about equal to calling someone a potato-face to me [14:27] DaemonFC[m] So whatever work Wine does to implement UWP has not been wasted. [14:28] MinceR 21 151710 < Ariadne> systemd being a badly designed software does not mean it is non-free (: [14:28] DaemonFC[m] Windows 8 was basically some fuck awful Windows 2.0 version of "metro" apps that turned a lot of users off to anything that even looked like one. [14:28] MinceR it being designed to wrest control from the community and hand it to rh/ibm is what makes it nonfree [14:28] DaemonFC[m] The fact is that systemd is monolithic. They actually torture the English language to describe it as modular. [14:29] DaemonFC[m] Because it's designed so if you tear out the modules and try to use them, they don't work at all. [14:29] MinceR > you won't have a choice. [14:29] MinceR hopefully there will still be Xenocara [14:29] DaemonFC[m] It's big as life and twice as ugly. [14:30] DaemonFC[m] It comes cram packed with all kind of stuff that won't be of any use at all in certain roles, but since it's not actually modular in the factual sense of the word, you can't trim it down to escape bloat and security problems that shouldn't happen in the context for which you are using it. [14:31] MinceR scientes: lol @ video [14:31] DaemonFC[m] I mean, by source lines, systemd is bigger than Linux at this point, iirc. [14:31] DaemonFC[m] And if it's not, it's close to overtaking Linux. [14:32] DaemonFC[m] And much of what it does is a poor reimplementation done by people who have no idea what they're doing. Not even how to do garbage collection so that it won't sit there and leak gigabytes of RAM. [14:33] DaemonFC[m] Why should that be a surprise? The same kind of people manage GNOME, and they can't figure out why "Putter" is leaking RAM and only drawing the screen half as often as it should. [14:34] DaemonFC[m] Or if someone finally does figure this out, it's only after it's been broken and nobody upstream cared for years. [14:35] DaemonFC[m] Someone really needs to make open source great again. Long gone are the days where you release a program and then you just sit there refining it for years on end. [14:36] DaemonFC[m] KDE/Qt are hardly blameless here. The Webkit Part was introduced. Applications started using it. It worked. Then they deprecated it and moved right along to Chromium as part of Qt, and here you have all these apps using the Webkit part, no security updates. [14:36] DaemonFC[m] Distributions just go right on along building it as thousands of CVEs pile up. [14:37] DaemonFC[m] The platform is not robust and stable and they don't really care what people who have spent a lot of time making a program must go through, and then they'll just shove in an API-incompatible replacement and abandon you. [14:38] DaemonFC[m] So we have a lot of these major changes that are not invisible to the applications, and that's a big problem because nothing lasts. [14:39] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft has sometimes put in ludicrous amounts of work to make sure that what old applications are doing works, even if the application is wrong. Even if Windows has changed dramatically and it has to work behind the scenes to redirect the behavior. [14:40] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-baexxxvsrkvkwodj) has joined #techrights [14:40] DaemonFC[m] I'm just not seeing that in a lot of stuff on Linux. You like your program and then one day it's just dead because the distribution or the people in charge of the API decided fuck you. [14:41] DaemonFC[m] It's gotten amazingly incompatible with older applications. Sometimes for no real concrete gains at all. [14:41] DaemonFC[m] LTS releases spare you some of that transitional pain, but those go out of support. [14:43] DaemonFC[m] You can put a Windows application from 1996 that plays MP3s on Windows 10 and it will still play MP3s. In Linux, they removed the OSS API from major distributions and older applications that want to play sound don't. The only way to fix them would be to compile a kernel that's a few KB bigger. [14:43] DaemonFC[m] The result is that even the Linux binaries for Doom 3 don't function properly anymore. There's no sound since years ago and I don't even know that they would start up anyway. [14:44] DaemonFC[m] So you have to go grab the Windows version even though it was ported. [14:44] DaemonFC[m] Borderlands 2 got a Linux port. You're better off with the Windows version in Proton. [14:44] MinceR what happened to OSS emulation in ALSA? [14:45] DaemonFC[m] Why are we better off with Windows software than a native port? Because the port worked when they built it and then something stupid happened, usually. [14:45] DaemonFC[m] At least Ubuntu and Fedora disabled it at build time. [14:46] DaemonFC[m] What we need are robust APIs that don't change much, and are actually supportable for decades to come. [14:46] DaemonFC[m] But when Red Hat is shoveling systemd builds into "Enterprise" Linux that sit there and leak out all your RAM over the course of a couple of weeks. [14:46] DaemonFC[m] Great server. Fantastic server OS. [14:47] MinceR we used to have robust APIs [14:47] MinceR now we have waylandows, poetteringaudio and cancerd [14:49] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, I know, and I really am angry in saying this, but Red Hat corrupted Linux to the point where Windows 10 has managed to at least be in the same ball park as far as reliability. [14:49] DaemonFC[m] I don't think Windows 10 has made huge progress. I think that Red Hat's been slowly corrupting things in subtle ways so that it all comes together and you have a gigantic mess that hoses itself unpredictably now. [14:49] MinceR that is, if you use their distros :> [14:50] *psydroid put OpenBSD on his old AMD desktop last week over Debian/OpenSUSE [14:51] DaemonFC[m] I'm wondering what would have been terribly hard about adding transparent compression and error resiliency to Ext4 and just calling it Ext5 or something. [14:51] DaemonFC[m] Moving RHEL off to XFS was a serious what the hell is this crap. [14:52] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:52] MinceR why, XFS has those? [14:52] MinceR the XFS i remember had the opposite of error resilience [14:52] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, the journaling method in particular. [14:53] MinceR maybe someone else did that and hedrat just made use of it [14:53] DaemonFC[m] You can set Ext4 to do something similar, and the result is that the journal won't be reliably updated. [14:53] DaemonFC[m] In exchange for a very small performance improvement that you won't notice. [14:54] DaemonFC[m] I don't think it's productive to go back to a 1990s file system made for a different operating system that is not at all amenable to being expanded. [14:55] Ariadne XRevan86: probably not [14:55] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [14:55] Ariadne XRevan86: trump loves putin [14:55] DaemonFC[m] They seem to be packing it with things that they know will cause problems. [14:55] Ariadne and the US dominates the UN even still [14:55] DaemonFC[m] So that their customers won't dare use it without support incidents. [14:55] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [14:56] DaemonFC[m] I think the destruction of CentOS should be a hard wake up call to IT people to move to something else. [14:56] MinceR sounds like people were continually working on XFS though [14:56] DaemonFC[m] Not go looking for another rebuild where it copies over all of Red Hat's chicanery as-is and will eventually be taken over again or otherwise manipulated. [14:56] Ariadne hmm [14:56] MinceR IT is not an industry where people understand wake-up calls [14:57] Ariadne i've never had problems with xfs [14:57] Ariadne MinceR: actually, wayland itself is quite robust. the problem is the ecosystem around it is not. [14:58] Ariadne i've spent the weekend retconning a new ecosystem :) [14:58] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:58] psydroid I did have problems with xfs, especially on sudden shutdown [14:58] MinceR yeah, it robustly avoids most features necessary for it to be usable :> [14:58] Ariadne what i've come up with is quite usable [14:58] MinceR and if someone hacks it into their implementation, it will be an incompatible element of the API [14:58] psydroid but I told the xfs developers about them and they were eventually fixed [14:59] psydroid now I don't really have it in use anywhere, though ● Dec 21 [15:09] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071619 [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4758052) [15:11] DaemonFC[m] https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/16/apples-m1-macbook-air-smashes-windows-on-arm-in-new-benchmarks [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's M1 MacBook Air smashes Windows on ARM in new benchmarks | AppleInsider [15:11] DaemonFC[m] The x86 emulator for the Windows 10 on ARM is pretty awful, apparently. [15:12] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-znyqmxeddflbremr) has joined #techrights [15:14] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:14] MinceR >ultraportable >1.3 kg [15:14] *MinceR laughs [15:15] CrystalMath well if you're Hulk Hogan, maybe 1.3 kg is like nothing [15:15] MinceR MacBook Air? more like MacBook Lead. [15:15] MinceR MacBook Uranium [15:16] MinceR MacBook Tennessine! [15:17] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:19] DaemonFC[m] I don't get why they think people will run out and buy Windows on ARM stuff. [15:19] MinceR for the usual reason [15:19] MinceR people are stupid [15:19] DaemonFC[m] It's all expensive, the x86 emulator is crap, and nobody is really producing software that works on the native CPU. [15:20] MinceR it's expensive, it has a glowing logo... that already has dumbasses scrambling and queueing to buy it [15:20] MinceR oh, you didn't mean running Backdoors on the MacBook Hot Air, did you? [15:21] DaemonFC[m] No. [15:21] MinceR the MacBook Oganesson [15:21] DaemonFC[m] I mean, it's possible that Microsoft would port Windows 10 to the M1. They really need the money. [15:22] DaemonFC[m] Windows revenue is flat, and even with throwing all of this adware and spyware in it, they can't increase it much. [15:22] DaemonFC[m] Nobody learned any lessons in the 1990s, that most people don't respond to ads and that ads have very little actual value. [15:23] MinceR ads seem to have worked out pretty well for the redmond mafia [15:23] MinceR they advertised that they "<3 Linux", which was an obvious lie, yet there are lots of people i know who believe it [15:24] DaemonFC[m] In the dotcom crash, the value of ad impressions fell to about 1/1000th of what they were claimed to be. [15:24] DaemonFC[m] I'm surprised that anyone wants to step in that mess again. [15:26] DaemonFC[m] ugh.... [15:27] DaemonFC[m] I typed in "why does my" into DuckDuckGo and it returns "Why does my vagina smell?". [15:27] DaemonFC[m] Google has gone through and fixed most of this stuff. [15:27] MinceR lol [15:28] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/opinions/vacancies-act-trump-berry/index.html [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump's abuse of 'acting' officials is ripe for change by Biden. - CNN [15:28] DaemonFC[m] Because the federal courts have emphasized the "Acting" part and have started throwing out regulations that the law does not allow them to make? [15:28] DaemonFC[m] :) [15:29] MinceR :) [15:29] DaemonFC[m] The only thing an "Acting" secretary can do is enforce the day to day operations with the existing rules of their agency until Congress confirms a new permanent official. [15:29] DaemonFC[m] The whole point of Senate confirmation is so that the president cannot put whoever he wants in there with no oversight. [15:30] MinceR https://existentialcomics.com/comic/359 [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Wise Man on the Mountain - Existential Comics [15:31] DaemonFC[m] "That's why, as the Constitutional Accountability Center has documented, dozens of Trump Administration officials now have unwieldy titles like "Performing the nonexclusive functions and duties of the Assistant Secretary for Export Enforcement" and "senior official performing the duties of the Director, US Citizenship and Immigration Services."" [15:31] DaemonFC[m] LOL [15:32] MinceR lol wut [15:32] DaemonFC[m] Performing None of the Functions of Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Chad Wolf -Federal Judges [15:33] MinceR Performing None of the Functions of the President of the United States of America [15:33] DaemonFC[m] Since he wasn't legally in charge of anything, does that mean he owes his paychecks back to the government? [15:35] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/a552f7ba26b56bcd099bb15af3817d1e77efd409 [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (43920) [15:45] *Sajesajama has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:50] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-ydaqxxzibiqhfxfq) has joined #techrights [15:58] *smnthermes (976c22869c@xmpp.snopyta.org) has joined #techrights ● Dec 21 [16:02] DaemonFC[m] https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-red-hat-dumped-centos-for-centos-stream/ [16:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Red Hat dumped CentOS for CentOS Stream | ZDNet [16:03] DaemonFC[m] A former Red Hat exec admits they killed CentOS because they viewed its users as parasites who weren't buying licenses. [16:03] MinceR that's probably what all GNU and Linux users are to hedrat [16:03] DaemonFC[m] Turns out that Red Hat was considering getting rid of CentOS 6 years ago, and just didn't get around to pulling the plug until now, and one of the backers of "Kill CentOS" is now a Program Manager at Microsoft. [16:04] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: ^ [16:04] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072848 [16:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4787968) [16:04] DaemonFC[m] "Still another ex-Red Hat official said. If it wasn't for CentOS, Red Hat would have been a 10-billion dollar company before Red Hat became a billion-dollar business." [16:05] DaemonFC[m] See what they're doing? They got all of this open source software for free and, yeah, they put some money into it, but not the $14 billion dollars it would have cost to develop on their own. [16:05] DaemonFC[m] Which, they don't even mention, that at no point in their history before the IBM takeover, they would have had. [16:07] DaemonFC[m] They never had the dollar value to invest that it would have taken to create something like RHEL, and now they are of the position that (1) it's all rightfully theirs and (2) the open source programs that they took advantage of and maybe put 10% of the resources into are to blame for why they're not 10x more valuable than they are now, despite the fact that they otherwise would have had nothing at all. [16:08] DaemonFC[m] Instead of being gracious and respectful (which is, ironically, what they COMMAND of others with Codes of Conduct), this is bullying and entitlement mentality at its worst at Red Hat. [16:11] DaemonFC[m] https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-practice/201303/9-types-entitlement-tendencies-and-how-overcome-them [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psychologytoday.com | 9 Types of Entitlement Tendencies and How to Overcome Them | Psychology Today [16:11] DaemonFC[m] LOL @ "You freeload. For example, you use torrenting programs to download movies rather than paying for them." [16:11] smnthermes ZDNet says: [16:11] smnthermes > No, it wasn't IBM calling the shots [16:11] smnthermes So IBM made a simbolic acquisition? Lol [16:13] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, bittorrent is 60% all internet traffic, I believe. And, what is freeloading and entitlement, really? Expecting your users to pay $100 a month for various streaming apps that all have 1-2 shows on them that are probably going to get canceled once they invest interest and time into them because your production budget is getting up there on Lost In Space and you can license movies about people fucking squids very [16:13] DaemonFC[m] cheaply and up the monthly fee $3 because why not. [16:13] MinceR ibm spent a ton of money on something they don't control? [16:13] MinceR is that the story i'm supposed to buy? [16:14] DaemonFC[m] My position on DRM is that they're free to try and that it never works. [16:14] MinceR lol [16:15] DaemonFC[m] But they pay people to sit there and write DRM software that doesn't work, which is a drag on paying customers. Is that freeloading? [16:17] DaemonFC[m] DRM cheats the customer. It inflates your costs, and you charge them to write it, it interferes with them and may even totally screw up their computer, and in return for paying you money, someone else gets it for free with no DRM and better compression and integrated DLCs, with a nicer installer that plays warez music. [16:18] DaemonFC[m] If anyone ever does invent DRM that works, it's going to be a dark day for computer users everywhere, and I don't think the industry is doing what they think they're doing. [16:18] DaemonFC[m] They think that new PC sales are in the shitter now. [16:18] DaemonFC[m] Just wait. [16:20] DaemonFC[m] The people who believe that they are entitled to sit on their asses and cash fat paychecks because of "intellectual property" are in quite the pickle, as the virus ravages the American and indeed the world economy, and the pool of people who roll up their sleeves and work to earn a tiny paycheck that have anything left to spend on them is rapidly drying up. [16:22] DaemonFC[m] I think Princess Leia probably said it the best to Governor Tarkin. The more you tighten your grip, the more it will all slip through your fingers. [16:22] DaemonFC[m] With streaming, these companies are at civil war ruining each other because of cost multiplication driving down the value of their individual platforms. [16:23] DaemonFC[m] With video games, they keep coming out with the video game that ruins Christmas as an annual tradition that dates back, at least on Windows, to 1994. [16:24] DaemonFC[m] When Compaq shipped computers with a graphics driver they didn't test against Microsoft's WinG libraries, and Disney's support lines were ringing off the hook with pissed off parents who bought The Lion King and all it did was crash Windows so often you couldn't play it. [16:24] DaemonFC[m] Here we are 26 years later, and it's Cyberpunk 2077. [16:25] DaemonFC[m] They're in such a hurry to get things out that they release something that shouldn't be powering anything more complex than an E3 demo as the game itself. [16:26] DaemonFC[m] CDPR may actually go bankrupt because this game is so broken. [16:29] MinceR i hope not [16:29] DaemonFC[m] It looks like they spent a lot of money to get Keanu Reeves to play the malware AI and that it tanked actual game development. [16:29] MinceR and from what i've heard, it's actually not that broken :> [16:30] DaemonFC[m] I plan to wait until there's at least another game patch and newer driver's from Intel. [16:30] MinceR i plan to wait until it gets cheaper and/or i run out of other games to play [16:30] DaemonFC[m] Because they still have significant issues to pin down on Xe with their graphics drivers. [16:30] DaemonFC[m] It seems they're more stable with older versions of DirectX than they are with DirectX 12. [16:30] DaemonFC[m] Most of the known problems are DX 12 titles. [16:31] DaemonFC[m] I suppose they reused a lot of older code that basically works so that's not surprising, really. [16:32] DaemonFC[m] "You think its okay to upset or offend other people. You see people who like to keep the peace as weak." [16:32] DaemonFC[m] Speaking of which, I wonder if the new Firefly will have the return of Book. [16:34] DaemonFC[m] He seemed to try excessively to keep the peace and even gave the Reavers the benefit of the doubt, saying that whatever they are they're still human. [16:35] DaemonFC[m] Of course, given that when he was shot they took him to an Alliance medical ship that refused him treatment until they saw his identification, and then scrambled to get him to the infirmary, it was likely even before the comics that he was either a spy or some kind of high ranking Alliance official. [16:37] DaemonFC[m] Since he was high ranking alliance either way (even if "retired"), it's likely that he knew full well what the Reavers were and was just trying to play it off because they don't like people knowing it was an attempt to make people too passive to resist them, with drugs, that went horribly wrong. [16:37] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: You don't really need drugs to make people too afraid to resist you. [16:38] schestowitz [16:11] So IBM made a simbolic acquisition? Lol [16:38] schestowitz github is not Microsoft [16:38] schestowitz just a coincidence :-) [16:38] DaemonFC[m] You need the Super Cold and a military to launch tear gas and rubber bullets at the complainers. [16:38] DaemonFC[m] Like the US. [16:39] DaemonFC[m] Speaking of which, the people who were doing the tear gas and rubber bullets said they would send me a letter so I know when to appear to ask them to let my spouse stay. [16:40] DaemonFC[m] Taking pot shots at CNN with the bean bag and pepper rounds because fuck it. Nobody in this administration will punish them for it. [16:41] DaemonFC[m] Military leadership was apparently "concerned" that Trump was passing out battle dress uniforms to ICE while they attacked and kidnapped Americans and shot "less lethal munitions" at the news. [16:41] DaemonFC[m] Of course, had they been concerned enough, that would have been the moment they arrested Donald Trump and set up a transitional government pending an election. [16:43] DaemonFC[m] Donald Trump is a domestic enemy who is spazzing out worse every day about having lost the election, and nobody will step in and get rid of him. I think the reason he hasn't called "Marshall"[sic] law yet is because the top brass in the military could end up refusing to carry it out. [16:44] DaemonFC[m] If he really thought he could get away with it, he would have done it already. [16:46] search_social i like how bernie bros are still mad that some people don't sell out their supporters to the establishment [16:46] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: It's impossible to read that article, with what the Red Hat people say themselves, and not walk away with the conclusion that they have turned actively hostile against open source and community. [16:47] DaemonFC[m] It started out as a sort of passive-aggressive contempt. [16:48] DaemonFC[m] I only voted for Biden because it was the only way to get rid of Trump. [16:48] DaemonFC[m] Nobody else who could act was interested in doing so. [16:48] DaemonFC[m] Even as he ruined our country, sold us out to our enemies, and betrayed the constitution....nobody would act. [16:49] search_social are you talking about biden or bernie [16:49] DaemonFC[m] He's still trying to knock over the constitution to stay in after losing the election and nobody's really doing much except letting his term expire. [16:49] search_social no that doesn't narrow it down [16:49] search_social provide more details [16:49] DaemonFC[m] The constitution says there's only one thing that can happen on January 20th, and that is Trump's term expires and he ceases to be the president. [16:50] DaemonFC[m] But people should have stopped him long before this. [16:50] search_social hold on i just checked the constitution [16:50] DaemonFC[m] The military would have been well within their rights to stop an enemy of the constitution. [16:50] search_social it says anyone that commits voter fraud will be hanged [16:50] search_social well we can agree on that part [16:50] DaemonFC[m] Congress should have convicted him on the impeachment. [16:50] search_social in fact i can think of a long lists of enemies [16:51] search_social can you stop using pronouns please it's very unclear whether you talking about biden or bernie when you use pronouns [16:51] DaemonFC[m] Everyone who could act did not act and now the only thing that can stop him is his term expiring. He should have never made it this far once he started attacking American citizens and committing what would be war crimes if it was a war, on detained immigrants. [16:51] search_social okay i think it's bernie you are talking about [16:52] search_social because i don't think he lets immigrants stay in his 4 mansions [16:52] DaemonFC[m] If Trump did to prisoners of war what he did to immigrants, he would be a war criminal. [16:52] search_social i think we should ship the entire population of haiti straight to daemon's house [16:52] DaemonFC[m] Then other countries failed to act in the name of human rights. [16:53] DaemonFC[m] They should have enacted sanctions, like they do with North Korea. [16:54] DaemonFC[m] They should have expelled the American diplomats from their embassies. [16:54] DaemonFC[m] Well, China did, but only because we did it to them first. [16:54] DaemonFC[m] There's just not a lot of difference between China and what Trump is trying to turn America into. [16:55] DaemonFC[m] He's suppressing US citizens the same way China has gone about dealing with Hong Kong Independence protesters. [16:56] DaemonFC[m] Paramilitary crackdowns, censorship, legal intimidation, "national security" orders. [16:56] search_social yeah trump's antifa has been an incredible drain on the country [16:56] search_social hang them all i say [16:56] DaemonFC[m] Facebook enabled him, and they supported his disinformation campaigns. [16:56] DaemonFC[m] And now he's going after them for not doing more to let him lie and bullshit people. [16:56] search_social yup a lot of antifa organizing going on trump's facebook [16:57] DaemonFC[m] Facebook lets right wing terrorists plot every detail of their crime. [16:57] DaemonFC[m] Then they only react once something has happened, like Wisconsin. [16:58] DaemonFC[m] The feds could have swooped in and stopped that. They didn't. The police could have arrested Rittenhouse right there for the murders, and they gave him ice water. [16:58] search_social 3 antifa members [16:58] search_social 3 attempted murderers [16:58] search_social all stopped by good guy with a gun [16:59] DaemonFC[m] "5. You freeload. For example, you use torrenting programs to download movies rather than paying for them." [16:59] DaemonFC[m] I'd change that. ● Dec 21 [17:00] DaemonFC[m] "5. You freeload. For example, you get on BitTorrent and then download without seeding at least one entire copy back into the swarm." [17:00] DaemonFC[m] entitlement mentality [17:01] DaemonFC[m] "4. You disregard rules that are intended for everyones comfort. For example, you ignore signs asking you to please not put your feet on the chairs at the movies." [17:02] DaemonFC[m] It's Illinois, everyone disregards the signs. When there was a "movies", you were happy if all they did was put their feet on the empty seats in front of them, and didn't talk all the way through the movie and have their phone going off with all those iPhone noises and firing up a joint until the whole theater smelled like two skunks skunked each other and then fired up a joint. [17:02] DaemonFC[m] Of course, they talk about this response as "moral licensing". [17:02] DaemonFC[m] So, in other words, you're guilty of entitlement mentality if you kick your feet up and go, "Well, they're talking and smoking weed.". [17:04] DaemonFC[m] 1. "You expect the same rules that apply to others shouldnt apply to you." [17:04] DaemonFC[m] Every government ever. [17:05] DaemonFC[m] Why do you think Nancy Pelosi was getting a blowout, or Gavin Newsom was at the French Laundry Incident, or why the US military pirates thousands of copies of various programs and only pays up once they're caught while Congress passes DMCA and shit? [17:05] DaemonFC[m] I mean, it's not like with $1.7 trillion annual budget they can afford to license some software. [17:05] DaemonFC[m] Licensing software is for chumps! [17:06] DaemonFC[m] 6. "You inconvenience others without thinking." [17:06] DaemonFC[m] Also the government. [17:06] DaemonFC[m] Here, we'll just close down the DMV for several months but we'll leave the mall open, because that'll really slow down the Coronavirus. [17:07] DaemonFC[m] And while the mall is open, you can't go to a restaurant. The virus likes spreading at restaurants but not the mall for some reason. [17:07] DaemonFC[m] Also, mall workers have essential jobs, but restaurant workers don't. [17:08] DaemonFC[m] And even though we caused mass unemployment, don't expect any assistance, and if you do get assistance don't expect it to continue. And if you take any assistance, expect your Republican relatives to say there's jobs out there and you're lazy. [17:09] DaemonFC[m] "You think its okay to upset or offend other people." [17:10] DaemonFC[m] You can't possibly know what people will take offense at. Victimhood mentality is another psychological defect that causes people to seek out things to be offended by even if they don't have to, and under this blanket rule of "thinking it's okay to offend" you must be responsible for having offended these people, even though this is gaslighting. [17:11] DaemonFC[m] Victimhood mentality is a neurosis and some comedians' act is entirely predicated upon causing these people angst so that they will complain and thus complete the joke. [17:13] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:13] DaemonFC[m] If they would let go then people would stop trying to get a rise out of them and then we wouldn't need Codes of Conduct. People try to provoke people with victimhood mentality because it's entertaining to watch them go off. [17:14] DaemonFC[m] Or as a parent would say to a child, "If you quit giving them what they want, they'll stop.". [17:15] DaemonFC[m] "You cheat in environments that are based on reciprocity." [17:15] DaemonFC[m] People tend to turn to "cheating" when something is so difficult that the effort with which to cheat becomes substantially lower than the effort required to follow the rules. [17:15] MinceR 21 180722 < DaemonFC[m]> And while the mall is open, you can't go to a restaurant. The virus likes spreading at restaurants but not the mall for some reason. [17:16] MinceR in hungary, SARS-CoV-2 likes spreading only between 20:00 and 5:00 [17:16] DaemonFC[m] Many systems are needlessly complex to discourage people from even trying to accomplish something, which gives rise to cheating. [17:16] MinceR and it's afraid of dogs, but only if the dog is within 500m of its home. [17:17] DaemonFC[m] People who follow the rules often end up accomplishing very little in competitive organizations because while they're busy dicking around crossing the t's and dotting the i's, some incompetent asshole with no moral center will rise above them and be the one in charge. [17:18] DaemonFC[m] In other words, rules are intended to get in the way and they're often imposed so that people who follow the rules can't get in the way of people who don't. [17:19] DaemonFC[m] Therefore, people who get ahead selectively follow rules, but only to the extent that other people will notice and/or stop them if they don't. [17:21] MinceR indeed [17:21] DaemonFC[m] In Office Space, he gets hypnotized to where he doesn't care anymore, and then he comes in and admits to the Bobs that his boss is such an idiot that he figured out ways to not come in until noon, play video games on the computer while nobody is around, and only do minutes of actual work per day. [17:21] DaemonFC[m] And nobody notices because the boss doesn't even understand what their jobs are. [17:22] DaemonFC[m] And you go well that's just a movie, but it's not. [17:22] DaemonFC[m] Things that bad can and do go on at real organizations [17:23] DaemonFC[m] A relative works for a big organization where they hired a CEO who was embezzling money. [17:23] DaemonFC[m] Worse, he hired all of his friends and stuffed them in the IT department. [17:24] DaemonFC[m] To this day the entire system goes down unpredictably, nobody knows how to fix it, and it might take hours before it feels like letting anyone sign on again. 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[17:29] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-wezslkpoyzxrhvhk) has joined #techrights [17:29] MinceR good, sounds like they're getting desperate for users [17:29] DaemonFC[m] It's a major admission that "Windows as a Service" doesn't work because there's such a diversity of PC hardware that you can't make sure the rollout goes well. [17:30] DaemonFC[m] Even then, it's advisable if you proceed with a major Windows update to make sure you have the latest drivers and BIOS update. [17:31] DaemonFC[m] But this huge delay in pushing new builds to users means that by the time one gets forced on them, it's a year or so behind the latest build. [17:31] DaemonFC[m] So whatever drivers they have are likely to work. [17:31] DaemonFC[m] Previously, Microsoft made whatever changes it wanted to and then shoved it out and asked Telemetry how that went. [17:32] DaemonFC[m] They had to back off on so many builds that it became a recurring theme. [17:32] DaemonFC[m] It doesn't seem like the builds are as ambitious anymore either. [17:34] DaemonFC[m] https://www.howtogeek.com/685996/whats-new-in-windows-10s-21h1-update-coming-spring-2021/ [17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Whats New in Windows 10s 21H1 Update, Coming Spring 2021 [17:34] DaemonFC[m] System-wide support for DNS over HTTPS. [17:34] DaemonFC[m] Hmmm... Means adguard dns should work systemwide just by pointing it there. [17:35] DaemonFC[m] DoH [17:35] DaemonFC[m] Unintentially gives ClownFlare a gigantic supercookie...... DoH!!!! [17:39] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [17:46] DaemonFC[m] Here's what I sent to the seller on ebay who says they don't know why the post office isn't delivering my package: [17:46] DaemonFC[m] I'll probably just give it another week or so. I understand that this is not your fault and have no intention of complaining to ebay when the post office can't even figure out why it had to go from Kansas City to Indianapolis, to a scan loop at St. Louis over a three week period. [17:46] DaemonFC[m] As for not getting satisfying answers from the post office....the high speed mail sorting machines that Trump/DeJoy busted up for the attempted election rigging probably would have helped, but it's not like they'll ever be allowed to say that, and just imagine what it's like to be a mail carrier right now... "Merry Christmas" [17:46] DaemonFC[m] I'll get back to you if it doesn't show up soon. 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DoH!!!! ● Dec 21 [21:00] smnthermes D'Oh! [21:02] MinceR Revenge of DoH [21:02] *cubexyz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:02] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [21:12] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:14] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071540 [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4756075) [21:32] *hook54321 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [21:34] *hook54321 (sid149355@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-doftibnowizrzpao) has joined #techrights [21:36] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:36] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:36] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [21:37] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:48] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072811 [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4786821) [21:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:55] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [21:55] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Dec 21 [22:19] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072748 [22:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4786257) [22:25] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:42] MinceR (audio) https://i.imgur.com/42a0fjf.mp4 ● Dec 21 [23:09] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/02615cb84ada8410.jpg [23:33] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:36] vZS1 I had to look again to make sure that's a cat [23:36] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/24/6543946097f1ea94.jpg [23:38] vZS1 I read that as "Unbearable" [23:38] MinceR also true [23:47] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-kznasshaaiputmer) has joined #techrights [23:50] *_inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:54] *_inky (~inky@141.136.78.223) has joined #techrights