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● Jan 22
[00:03]	DaemonFC	The fact that they are only touching it to fix CVEs at this point actually makes me feel better about it.
[00:03]	MinceR	they're less likely to fuck it up, eh? :>
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Although some of the CVE fixes say they might break something that they don't think anyone is using.
[00:09]	DaemonFC	So much for we need Wayland because we don't want to brick core X11.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	Now they just admit that the CVE fixes may break core X11 and they don't care.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> Elim Garak
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> Kubuntu is just KDE on the Ubuntu base. Everything else about the OS is exactly the same as if you'd installed it under Ubuntu.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	> So if Snaps really are self-contained and have everything they need, and don't care about the rest of your system, why complain that the user is using KDE, on what is otherwise Ubuntu?
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> That tells me right there that they aren't as universal as Canonical says they are.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> enigma9o7
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> Sounds like a bug.  Likely there is a bug report, take a look.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> I've never tried using snaps myself.   I do use flatpak for a few things.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> Coincidentally enough, for example, element stopped working on my Bodhi 5.1 machine (old version) cuz as of two versions ago, it now requires GLIBC 2.28 and I only have 2.27
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> Also I use flatpak for nheko nightly, and also testing gnome-nightly stuff.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> * Elim Garak laughs maniacally
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> enigma9o7
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> So for element, I am still using an older version for the past couple weeks, but likely will move to flatpak for it.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> Elim Garak
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> What do you expect for something "shared" between the GNU project and Red Hat?
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> In the way of compatibility after entire MONTHS I mean?
[00:12]	DaemonFC	> :D
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[00:12]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[00:12]	MinceR	22 010955 <@DaemonFC> So much for we need Wayland because we don't want to brick core X11.
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[00:12]	MinceR	we want to brick core X11 because no one wants to use wayland
[00:13]	MinceR	you know, "free software".
[00:13]	MinceR	though i guess they always preferred to call it "open-source software"
[00:17]	DaemonFC	If they're going to start breaking core X11, then why couldn't they have just pulled the weeds and bumped X?
[00:18]	DaemonFC	I don't understand this fascination with not breaking "historical" compatibility.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Like something from 20+ years ago.
[00:18]	MinceR	\_()_/
[00:34]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-oklahoma-accused-toppling-country-radio-station-tower-steal-100-copper
[00:34]	TR Bot	 2 in Oklahoma accused of toppling country radio station tower to steal $100 in copper | Fox News
[00:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Robust economy.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Jobs for everyone.
[00:37]	DaemonFC	"Radio tower copper theft suspect Candice Logan, seen photographed with a car containing what appears to be copper in the trunk. (Facebook/Terry Park)"
[00:37]	DaemonFC	And after stealing the copper, Phase 2 of our diabolical plan is to photograph ourselves smiling with a stolen pile of copper in the back of a van and post it to Facebook!
[00:37]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:38]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[00:40]	MinceR	:)
[00:41]	Sompi	the jobs are in prison
[00:42]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/tech-ceo-falls-his-death-front-horrified-employees-company-party-india
[00:42]	TR Bot	 Tech CEO falls to his death in front of horrified employees at company party in India | Fox Business
[00:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/health/ozempic-wegovy-overdose-calls-spiked-experts-say-heres-know-dangerous-doses
[00:44]	TR Bot	 Ozempic and Wegovy overdose calls have spiked, experts say what to know about dangerous doses | Fox News
[00:44]	MinceR	fox noise again
[00:44]	DaemonFC	MinceR: "Just keep turning the dial until you inject yourself with a month's worth at once.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:46]	DaemonFC	This must be the only country where people will use a $5,000 drug that makes them vomit for over a year after they stop taking it and all the weight comes back instead of not throwing as many cookies and three liter bottles of Coke into the shopping cart.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I got a huge bean bag from Walmart finally.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	The cats discovered it.
[00:47]	MinceR	:3
[00:47]	MinceR	i didn't realize cats were into bean bags
[00:49]	DaemonFC	It's so big that it's big enough for all of us.
[00:49]	DaemonFC	I bought a queen size blanket to put over it and they lay on it and watch movies with me.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I could use this as a bed. It's 7 feet long and I'm 6' 4".
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Mandy asked what I would do if one of us has COVID and we need to be in separate rooms. I said, "Well, if one person in the house gets COVID, everyone does."
[00:51]	DaemonFC	"Plus, you can sleep on the bean bag if you have to. It is foam-filled."
[00:51]	DaemonFC	I wouldn't want to do it all the time, but you could do it for a few days.
[00:52]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/us/infant-girl-abandoned-philadelphia-walmart-suspected-shoplifters-police
[00:52]	TR Bot	 Infant girl abandoned at Philadelphia Walmart by suspected shoplifters: police | Fox News
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, in "Only heterosexuals can be trusted to raise children."
[00:53]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Child endangerment and neglect charges are worse than shoplifting.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	Might as well face the music when the police catch the shoplifting...
[00:54]	MinceR	more bullshit from fox noise
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[00:55]	DaemonFC	> iflyroads
[00:55]	DaemonFC	> 2 hours ago
[00:55]	DaemonFC	> Adopt an abandoned infant of known criminals from Philly? You're exposing yourself to the unknown risks of defective genes, likely drug and/or alcohol exposure/addiction, genetic diseases, penicillin resistant diseases, mental defects, etc. Could be an extremely expensive and taxing decision. Grow your own or get a dog.
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[00:55]	DaemonFC	> boltactionconservative074
[00:55]	DaemonFC	> 1 hour ago
[00:55]	DaemonFC	> My poor sister has one of those regrets.  She should've taken a good hard look at the birth parents.  Seventeen years of headaches and heartache.
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[00:56]	DaemonFC	> lifeinthenolane
[00:56]	DaemonFC	> 48 minutes ago
[00:56]	DaemonFC	> Replying to boltactionconservative074
[00:56]	DaemonFC	> I got a friend who adopted a baby. His son is now 19 and doesn't go to school or work. He just hangs out in his bedroom and does drugs. Whenever they have tried to do something about it. Their adoptive son threatens to commit suicide. Never adopt unless you know what both parents are like.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	----
[00:56]	DaemonFC	This is how I'd imagine someone would end up after adopting Brandon Lobster's abandoned children if they take after the sperm donor. (the third comment)
[00:57]	DaemonFC	I'm not sure what makes these stories about adoption, if true, that much different than having your own children.
[00:57]	DaemonFC	Most people end up disappointed with their children, and the world is a terrible place now to try to raise them in.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	It's not like it was when my parents were 20 and everything was super easy.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	Go to the DMV they hand you a driver's license.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	Go fill out some job applications, and most of them ask if you want the job the same week.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	Get a mortgage on a house that now costs $100,000, and it was $17,000.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	Have some children, and the company that you could expect to work at for many decades that had a pension program gave you vouchers for the daycare expenses.
● Jan 22
[01:00]	DaemonFC	Want to go to college? Drop by the HR office. They'll pay for that too. That's why my dad has three college degrees and two of them didn't even cost him anything.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	Need to go to the doctor? Don't worry. The company that pays 100% of your health insurance premiums got you a plan where you'll only pay about $200-300 that year out of your own pocket . (And if you're my dad, still complain when the mother takes the kids to the doctor.)
[01:01]	DaemonFC	They just came of age in a time where there was no rampant difficulty with anything.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	Not one where there aren't any jobs and the president is inviting two million illegal aliens to crash on your couch and take yours.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	While inflation is 8% and you haven't had a raise in three years.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	This Venezuela thing is uncannily similar to Castro dumping his prisoners and public masturbators on Florida, and Jimmy Carter taking them all in.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	They've been voting for Republicans ever since they got their papers.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	The human nature is to take anything you can get and slam the door shut behind you.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	It's been the entire motivating factor of the Boomer generation.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	Which is why the entire country is on fire now.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	Not content with taking anything they can get from welfare programs and then shutting them down and overseas slave labor while hollowing out the nation....now they load themselves up on debt they have no plan to pay and then die.
[01:06]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I already have a reply if anyone contacts me about my mom or dad's debts after that happens.
[01:06]	MinceR	:>
[01:06]	DaemonFC	"Shouldn't have given them the loans, dumbasses!" and slam the phone.
[01:08]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/sports/transgender-golfer-hailey-davidson-pushes-back-misinformed-hated-outrage-win-womens-tour
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Transgender golfer Hailey Davidson pushes back on 'misinformed hated' amid outrage over win on women's tour | Fox News
[01:08]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNUgMjnOvkM
[01:08]	TR Bot	https://invidious.tiekoetter.com/watch?v=MNUgMjnOvkM
[01:09]	TR Bot	api.invidious.io | Invidious Instances
[01:15]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2024/01/21/1225764834/california-governor-sacks-effort-to-limit-tackle-football-for-kids
[01:15]	TR Bot	 California governor sacks effort to limit tackle football for kids : NPR
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[01:34]	TR News	Never Been Happier to Drop a Grand gemini://rawtext.club/~winter/gemlog/2024/1-21.gmi
[01:35]	TR News	"Of course this species is going to boil the ocean - as opposed to taking meaningful action - en route to literally boiling the ocean...." gemini://tilde.club/~oldernow/2024-01-21-17-00-41.gmi
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[01:37]	TR News	"Related but much different than mage knights[1], a mage smith[2] is a mage who imbues items with magical power, creates items using magic, and recharges steam engines. This is a dangerous profession since artifacts are known to react poorly to feedback[3] and frequently explode when not properly shielded." gemini://fedran.com/news/2024/01/21/on-mage-smiths/
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[01:39]	TR News	Day 20 - On Mage Knights gemini://fedran.com/news/2024/01/20/on-mage-knights/
[01:50]	TR News	Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.gmi 
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[02:55]	DaemonFC	https://www.marketwatch.com/story/people-are-afraid-to-commit-to-cds-but-the-time-to-lock-in-high-interest-rates-is-running-out-11e25af7
[02:55]	TR Bot	rates are still high. Why doesnt anyone want to commit to a CD? - MarketWatch
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[02:56]	DaemonFC	I cant get anyone to lock in rates at 2 or 3 or 4 years, says Keil, who is based in Milwaukee. His argument is that 5% is a good rate that we havent seen in years, and the bond market is indicating that itll be lower in six months or so. The bond market is smarter than you and me, he says. 
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[02:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 7 Best Linux Server Distributions for Virtualization
[02:59]	schestowitz[TR]	router maintenance
[02:59]	schestowitz[TR]	sorry about that
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[03:01]	schestowitz[TR]	Mon 02:12:14   TR NEWS Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.gmi 
[03:01]	schestowitz[TR]	Mon 02:52:11   DaemonFC schestowitz: Lobster Sign?
[03:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web
[03:01]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[03:01]	schestowitz[TR]	this one was network work
[03:01]		*DaemonFC gives voice to admfubar alextee arkanian
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[03:01]		*DaemonFC gives voice to kermit KindOne_ liberty_box_
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[03:01]		*DaemonFC gives voice to libredev logbackup MinceR
[03:01]		*DaemonFC gives voice to openJ
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[03:03]	DaemonFC	"These offers typically also come with a lot of caveats. More often these days, that top rate is promotional, says Mary Grace Roske, head of marketing for CD Valet, and the CD reverts to a lower rate at some interval noted deep in the fine print. Many CDs these days are also callable, which means that the bank can pay out the balance at a designated time if market conditions change, and the investor would be stuck having to reinvest at lower rates. "
[03:03]	DaemonFC	So you put money there thinking you'll get that rate for 5-10 years and then the bank pays everything out and you don't make any more interest at that rate, and you're like "What the fuck!?" because of course you didn't read that.
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[03:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The Harvey Debacle?
[03:16]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[03:16]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: want to proofread?
[03:16]	schestowitz[TR]	that would speed things up
[03:17]	DaemonFC	Yeah, let me brush my teeth and get some water.
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	this will come in about 7 parts 
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	not counting kaniini stuff
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	but the current host
[03:23]		*ZedHedTe1 is now known as ZedHedTed
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[03:28]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Let me guess. Lobster and the survivability thing again.
[03:28]	DaemonFC	Whenever you don't get what you want, threaten suicide.
[03:28]	DaemonFC	So lame.
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[03:29]	DaemonFC	It takes advantage of a very real problem (a huge spike in the number of people actually committing suicide today because the world is so fucked up) and globs onto it.
[03:30]	DaemonFC	But with absolutely no intent on doing it. Just as a way to get people to pay attention and crudely manipulate.
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[03:30]	DaemonFC	A sane person with any sort of conscience wouldn't do it and would feel horribly ashamed if they did.
[03:31]	DaemonFC	Only some sort of sociopath/psychopath would ever go there.
[03:31]	DaemonFC	And I've been to the point where I actually wanted to do it and I didn't tell anyone at the time.
[03:32]	DaemonFC	People who actually do it don't talk and talk about it because then people would stop them from doing it if they decided to do it, and they know it, which is why very nearly every person who is suicidal just says nothing and they're gone one day.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	When you actually are that depressed you don't say anything, because at a moment's notice you could decide to walk in front of a train or something and nobody can stop you if they don't know you're thinking about it.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	I wish it weren't happening.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of ways that the government could lower the suicide rate, but it doesn't really care.
[03:34]	DaemonFC	The more people that do it, the less pressure there is on the government to alleviate whatever problem drove them to do it.
[03:35]	DaemonFC	There could be reforms that reduced income inequality, or made family or criminal court more fair, or increased job security.
[03:35]	DaemonFC	They don't care. They don't want to do anything or they would have.
[03:35]	TR News	Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.gmi 
[03:35]	TR Bot	 Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!)
[03:39]	DaemonFC	"This is not the first time Lozza the militant resorts to invalid DMCA experiments; this goes back 14 years ago. False DMCA invocation, in its own right, carries a liability. Need it be pointed our that DMCA, being a US thing, is hardly applicable to a British company and Canadian person?"
[03:39]	DaemonFC	The DMCA is a universal law something something human rights.
[03:39]	MinceR	lol
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	it's US, but...
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	they try to extend that
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	in practice, however, they cannot compel every country to follow US law
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and either way, this iiis invalid takedown request
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not filed correctly
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and obvious fair use
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	any idiot can see it
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	u need to correct myself
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	not 7 parts
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	i tidied up the drafts a bit
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	it'll be more llike 9 for the gulagboy and lozza takedown attempts
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	not counting the kaniini attempts, which involved lying to her
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	she took the bair
[03:41]	schestowitz[TR]	from the lobster
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	*bait
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	biab
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	doing links nowww
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Roy's dumpster Lobsta
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	this above series will probably be 25-35 more parts
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. till autumn
[03:42]	schestowitz[TR]	they dug their own graves, PR-wise
[03:43]	DaemonFC	Lobsta called me a transphobe while making homophobic and anti-Asian attacks and accusing me of "things involving an animal" after I mentioned it was time to give my cat her pill.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	This is...unbecoming of a person who wants a moral high ground.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2024/01/21/1225925053/billions-of-cicadas-will-buzz-this-spring-as-two-broods-emerge-at-the-same-time
[03:51]	TR Bot	 Billions of cicadas to emerge this spring as two broods arrive at the same time : NPR
[03:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I don't doubt that the Fed will probably relent and cut rates 7-8 times in the next 24 months.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	The go-to is to cut interest rates, and it's like that for a lot of reasons.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	The economy is nothing but bubbles and the government has a lot of debt.
[03:55]	DaemonFC	All of the most powerful players want low interest rates because it cheapens the cost of carrying a lot of debt.
[03:55]	DaemonFC	So while it is "unwise" to let up so quickly, they probably will do it.
[03:55]	DaemonFC	Giving up on inflation control.
[03:56]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> The economy is nothing but bubbles and the government has a lot of debt.
[03:56]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, they try to buy time
[03:56]	schestowitz[TR]	while attacking the challengers
[03:56]	DaemonFC	If they're talking about cutting rates this fast it means they see the layoff data, especially in the "tech" crap and they realize that they have months to do something before it falls over entirely.
[03:57]	DaemonFC	This is truly depressing. Interest rates could be higher yet if we still had an economy based on making things and mining things and building things.
[03:57]	DaemonFC	Not Bill Sez, Elon Sez, Meme Tokens, etc.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	An economy that can't handle higher interest rates is a very sick economy. There should be absolutely no need for near-zero rates persistently.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	How can 78% of your GDP be consumer spending and not production?
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Like how long do you just "make money out of nothing and have China give you things for it"?
[03:59]	DaemonFC	I'm surprised it took more than 20 years for this country to completely fall apart.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	But it finally did.
● Jan 22
[04:00]	DaemonFC	What got exported to Mexico under NAFTA?
[04:00]	DaemonFC	Agricultural products that we lose money on because the government subsidizes it.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	And "banking services".
[04:01]	TR News	Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.gmi 
[04:01]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women)
[04:01]	DaemonFC	They can't figure out how to do banking without us, you know.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	If US-based banks "invest" abroad and pull in the profits directly, this is a wonderful example of something that drives GDP but doesn't benefit many Americans.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	How many people's paychecks are funded by Jamie Dimon extracting investment returns from Mexico or something?
[04:03]	DaemonFC	That's why it's so great to see China turning on the US wealthy that invested there.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	Making every excuse about why they can't have their own money from Chinese banks.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	They have the money, in China. Where they can't do anything with it.
[04:03]	TR News	"OPML stands for "Outline Processor Markup Language" which isn't useful to explain what it does in this context." https://rknight.me/blog/creating-an-opml-file-for-my-blogroll/ | Source: Rob Knight
[04:03]	TR Bot	 Creating an OPML File for my Blogroll Robb Knight
[04:03]	DaemonFC	Eventually, the Chinese government can just confiscate it.
[04:03]	TR News	"Some weeks ago, I sort of discovered this Grafana dashboard from a Hackerspace here in Eindhoven." https://hacdias.com/2024/01/21/attempt-visualizing-eve-room-weather-grafana/ | Source: Henrique Dias
[04:03]	TR Bot	 Attempt at Visualizing Eve Room (and Weather) Metrics in Grafana - Henrique Dias
[04:03]	TR News	"How you get raw time series data from Prometheus, including its timestamps, is with an instant query that gives you a range vector as the result" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PrometheusDeltaExtrapolation | Source: University of Toronto
[04:04]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PrometheusDeltaExtrapolation
[04:04]	TR News	"Given the success of stereo, though, one wonders why larger numbers of channels have met more limited success. " https://computer.rip/2024-01-21-multi-channel-audio-part-1.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
[04:04]	TR Bot	 2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1
[04:05]	TR News	"It replaces an earlier post. This new post was created because the network card was changed from a 1G fiber card to a 10G fiber card" https://dan.langille.org/2024/01/20/r730-03-2/ | Source: Dan Langille
[04:05]	TR Bot	 r730-03 Dan Langille's Other Diary
[04:05]	TR News	"A huge number of software developers have their own blog where they publish posts about programming and software development regularly" https://syntackle.live/blog/blogroll-using-astro/ |
[04:05]	TR Bot	 rssed Become A Developer Beyond Bookmarks
[04:06]	TR News	"What ever happened to service's providing a simple API key? I don't want to OAuth just because I want to run a single GET query on my own data." https://www.iwader.co.uk/posts/2024/01/just-give-me-an-api-key/ |
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Just give me an API key | Wade Urry
[04:06]	TR News	"My journey into the world of IT began in 1999. At the age of almost 21, fresh out of school, I found myself standing at a crossroads." https://www.howtoforge.com/linux-self-hosted-environment/ | Source: HowTo Forge
[04:06]	TR Bot	 How to build a Self-hosted environment on Linux with Proxmox
[04:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: If there really was deflation or low inflation, I doubt people would scream about lower rates.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	I mean you do have to pay income taxes on bank interest even though the interest is only helping you deal with the inflation that's going on.
[04:07]	TR News	"I thought part 2 was the end of my restoration journey for Tobias the Valiant Turtle" https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2024/01/20/valiant-turtle-retro-restoration-part-3/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Valiant Turtle: Retro Restoration Part3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[04:08]	DaemonFC	I know you said the banks in the UK were cutting savings products.
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: depends
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	on what you pay
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	for instance,,
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	rich people dpn't pay rent
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	many charge rent
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	and food pricesss are a tiny component of their budget
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	in some countries food is over 50% of people's budgets
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: they cut the rates, gradually
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	depending on the bank
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	but they also lower it
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	for no clear reason
[04:09]	TR News	"Last year, I started to use Excalidraw as a diagram tool. However, the SVG images didnt display the font correctly." https://blog.frankel.ch/fonts-embedded-svg/ | Source: Nicolas Frnkel
[04:09]	TR Bot	 Keeping your fonts in embedded SVG
[04:10]	TR News	"As of now, unlike Python or NodeJS, Go doesnt allow you to specify your development dependencies separately from those of the application." https://rednafi.com/go/omit_dev_dependencies_in_binaries/ | Source: Redowan Delowar
[04:10]	TR Bot	 Omitting dev dependencies in Go binaries | Redowan's Reflections
[04:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, but I get some of our food budget rebated.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	Through points schemes and stuff.
[04:11]	TR News	"Maybe surprisingly, the C programming language keeps evolving, slowly and carefully." https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
[04:11]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ )
[04:11]	DaemonFC	There's various incentives schemes from all around to try to influence your decision about where to eat or something.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The best part is that those rewards schemes are not taxable.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	They're a rebate so they're not taxable.
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: i wonder if there's some cyberwar thing going on tonight
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	you can see details in another chhannel
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	biab
[04:13]	TR News	"My last post was using {hstats}, {kernelshap} and {shapviz} to explain a binary classification random forest." https://lorentzen.ch/index.php/2024/01/21/ml-xai-strong-glm/ | Source: Michael's and Christian's blog
[04:13]	TR Bot	 ML + XAI -> Strong GLM Michael's and Christian's Blog
[04:13]	TR News	"I never had a hobby." https://antonio.is/2024/02/21/learning-new-tricks/ | Source: Antonio Rodrigues
[04:13]	TR Bot	 Learning New Tricks - Antonio's Blog
[04:14]	TR News	"Salts State of API Security Report Q1:2023 reveals that APIs have become a prime target for attackers. Within six months" https://thecyberexpress.com/effective-api-security-strategy/ | Source: Cyble Inc
[04:14]	TR Bot	 Fortify Your Systems With An Effective API Security Strategy
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe too soon to check
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	in news sites
[04:14]	DaemonFC	The Federal Reserve pointed out that credit card points suck wealth out of the poorest and give it to the wealthiest.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68036507
[04:14]	TR Bot	 Storm Isha live: Thousands without power as gusts could reach 100mph - BBC News
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	another possibility
[04:14]	DaemonFC	So you notice how that Inflation "Reduction" Act didn't tax card points.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe some router goes or went AWOL
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	and they tried to bypass the issue
[04:15]	DaemonFC	They could have gotten billions in taxes just by changing that so the card companies had to send out 1099s.
[04:16]	TR News	[Old] "Many congratulations that your programming language is easy to use, but that is not your job." https://josvisser.substack.com/p/why-python-is-terrible |
[04:16]	TR Bot	 Why Python is terrible... - by Jos Visser
[04:16]	TR News	"2. Make sure its history can grow nearly infinitely and you can fuzzy-search through it." https://registerspill.thorstenball.com/p/which-command-did-you-run-1731-days | Source: Thorsten Ball
[04:16]	TR Bot	 Which command did you run 1731 days ago? - by Thorsten Ball
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	routers needed to be rebooted
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	in several cities
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	not due to firmware updates
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe the srorm knocked over some backbone stuff like JANET
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: unlike in portland,
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it came back within mins
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and no electric outsage
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	or burst pipes
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	like in portland
[04:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I had to get after the landlord the other day.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Someone broke a door closer on an outer door on the vestibule.
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[04:21]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 21, 2024
[04:21]	DaemonFC	The temperature dropped in the building because of it even though there are other doors.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	I told him if the temperature stayed where it was, he'd end up paying a plumber several thousand dollars to fix a burst pipe in the middle of the night instead of paying a handyman to go get a $50 door closer at the hardware store.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	And even if it didn't happen, "It's not free to have all that heat escaping the building."
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: I had to get after the landlord the other day.
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	oh lord
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	landlord
[04:23]	DaemonFC	It's pretty bad when you have to impress upon them that if they ignore this message they'll end up blowing a pipe and causing thousands in damages to their own building.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	> Can You Pay Taxes With a Credit Card?
[04:28]	DaemonFC	> Yes, the IRS is happy for people to pay taxes with a credit card and has authorized three companies to process these payments. However, be aware that there are fees to pay for this service.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	> 8
[04:28]	DaemonFC	> Internal Revenue Service. "Pay Your Taxes by Debit or Credit Card or Digital Wallet.
[04:28]	DaemonFC	---
[04:29]	MinceR	can you pay taxes with monero?
[04:29]	DaemonFC	You can but the fees add up to like a few percent. But if you sign up for a card that has a welcome bonus of like $1,000 but you have to spend like $5,000 to get it, and you pay your tax bill with it, you might go a long way towards the bonus.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The federal government doesn't consider crypto to be money. The IRS taxes it as property and capital gains or losses. So in that respect it's really not much different than buying and selling shares of stocks or buying gold or silver at one price, holding it for a while, selling it at another.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	You end up with short-term and long term rates. If you lose money, you can deduct it from your income.
[04:30]	MinceR	do they consider it to be a payment method?
[04:30]	DaemonFC	If they seize it from some criminals, they auction them off in exchange for US Dollars.
[04:31]	MinceR	after all, a credit card isn't money either
[04:31]	DaemonFC	No, you cannot pay your taxes in crypto. You can sell crypto for money to pay your taxes, but then that would create a taxable capital gains event for the current year.
[04:31]	DaemonFC	:)
[04:31]	MinceR	:>
[04:32]	DaemonFC	Crypto isn't money outside of a few oddball countries like Ecuador, where it's turned into an even bigger problem than using the US Dollar.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	Which they have done for years.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Walmart was looking into accepting bitcoins then never did.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Probably didn't want the hassle of explaining to their customer why buying some underwear and cat food at Walmart was essentially like selling stock shares.
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[04:34]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[04:35]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The Bobcat took over my chair. She's had a personality change lately.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	She's been sleeping at the foot of the bed and she follows me around everywhere and coos and meows at me.
[04:35]	MinceR	you have a lynx? :>
[04:35]	DaemonFC	Bobbi
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[04:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[04:36]	DaemonFC	I told John I was going to feed Joy (the landlord who was not Joyful) to the cat "I do have a Bobcat."
[04:36]	DaemonFC	He said, "You have a cat named Bob."
[04:39]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Banks didn't used to be allowed to pay sign up bonuses for new deposit accounts.
[04:39]	TR News	"I wish every blog post had a footer with easy ways to respond, preferably via email." https://www.amitgawande.com/2024/01/21/i-wish-every.html | Source: Amit Gawande
[04:39]	TR Bot	 Amit Gawande
[04:39]	DaemonFC	So they'd give you toasters and coffee makers and all kinds of stuff.
[04:39]	TR News	"These instructions are obviously geared toward that tech stack but should be similar to many other setups." https://echoville.blog/notes-on-migrating-to-a-new-domain/ |
[04:39]	TR Bot	 Notes on migrating Ghost and Mailgun to a new domain
[04:40]	TR News	"Let me explain. I connected my iPhone to the USB port on the Travel Router." https://merecivilian.com/travel-router/ |
[04:40]	TR Bot	 Travel Router
[04:40]	DaemonFC	I remember when my aunt (dad's sister) got married and everyone in the family went and opened a bank account and each brought them a small appliance or something to the wedding.
[04:40]	TR News	"Stuff expands to fill whatever container you put it in, whether its a bookshelf, cupboard, drawer, or desk." https://rubenerd.com/possessions-are-a-gas-not-a-liquid/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[04:40]	TR Bot	Possessions are a gas, not a liquid
[04:40]	MinceR	connect your iPhone to your Colon
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Banking was a lot better in the 90s.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	I remember when your checking used to pay 5%. Your savings paid 8%.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	It wasn't because we had hyperinflation and that's what you needed to stay level either.
[04:42]	TR News	"As I pondered this thought over the New Year" https://tomgreenwood.substack.com/p/is-materialism-really-such-a-bad |
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Is materialism really such a bad thing? - by Tom Greenwood
[04:42]	TR News	"Maybe in 10 years time, new developers will be questioning all your decisions and slagging you off via emojis." https://www.tommyp.org/blog/tales-from-a-solo-dev/ |
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Tales from a solo dev | Tommy Palmer
[04:43]	TR News	"In recent years, municipal governments across Canada have strengthened regulations to limit short-term rentals" https://www.cbc.ca/radio/technology-short-term-rental-compliance-1.7086580 | Source: RFA
[04:43]	TR Bot	 How technology is helping municipalities crack down on illegal short-term rentals | CBC Radio
[04:44]	TR News	"But the jobs of investigators like Katolyk are getting a lot easier thanks to new tech platforms that use artificial intelligence to help uncover illegal listings." https://www.cbc.ca/radio/technology-short-term-rental-compliance-1.7086580
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[04:47]	TR News	"Problem was, the stand upon which it pivoted and moved around lacked sufficient height for my ergonomic requirements." https://rubenerd.com/a-2024-yellow-pages-monitor-stand/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[04:47]	TR Bot	A 2024 Yellow Pages monitor stand
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[05:06]	DaemonFC	https://www.investopedia.com/new-worker-classification-rule-could-disrupt-the-us-gig-economy-8546526
[05:06]	TR Bot	 New Worker Classification Rule Could Disrupt the U.S. Gig Economy
[05:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: An end to the gig gulag?
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	i hope so
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"gig" is ok
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	but
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	treat it like a job
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	holidays, ill days, pension etc.
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and some decent minimal income
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	not ZHC
[05:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: So much for Walmart throwing delivery orders in a Doordash and paying the guy $3 to drive to someone's house and lug 500 gallons of bottled water up six flights of stairs.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	:)
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	:/
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	funny to you
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, you used to deliver pizza from your car
[05:14]	TR News	"The past couple weeks, I have fallen down the lead-in-consumer-goods rabbit hole." https://tracydurnell.com/2024/01/21/misadventures-in-leaded-dishware/ | Source: Tracy Durnell
[05:14]	TR Bot	 Misadventures in leaded dishware Tracy Durnell
[05:18]	DaemonFC	I don't recall that.
[05:18]	thiel3	where's scrollback for this channel?
[05:19]	thiel3	i clicked the link in the topic and i can't find anything
[05:19]	DaemonFC	Hi Lobsta
[05:20]	thiel3	DaemonFC: i'm on irssi and it's like
[05:20]	thiel3	7:20 am
[05:21]	thiel3	sorry, ctcp disabled
[05:21]	thiel3	anyways, can i have history of this channel? i'm trying to grep for a topic
[05:23]	TR News	"Automation is employed in a big way in irrigation as well as spraying of pesticides across plantations" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/ai-machine-learning-systems-drones-show-new-age-face-of-keralas-plantation-sector/articleshow/107033614.cms | Source: India Times
[05:23]	TR Bot	 ai kerala plantation sector: AI, machine learning systems, drones show new-age face of Kerala's plantation sector - The Economic Times
[05:24]	TR News	Windows TCO https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/microsoft-corporate-email-accounts-hacked-group-behind-solarwinds-hack/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[05:24]	TR Bot	corporate email accounts hacked by same group behind SolarWinds hack - SiliconANGLE
[05:24]	TR News	Windows TCO https://thecyberexpress.com/cisa-fbi-epa-unveil-incident-response-guide/ | Source: Cyble Inc
[05:24]	TR Bot	 CISA, FBI, EPA Unveil Comprehensive Incident Response Guide
[05:25]	TR News	Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/update-ransomware-attack-affecting-tietoevrys-services-for-some-customers-in-sweden/ | Source: Data Breaches
[05:25]	TR Bot	 UPDATE: Ransomware attack affecting Tietoevrys services for some customers in Sweden
[05:25]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I didn't say it was funny that they were doing it.
[05:25]	DaemonFC	I'm amused that they may have to stop doing it.
[05:25]	DaemonFC	And go "Look, you want groceries delivered, pay for it."
[05:25]	DaemonFC	When DoorDash has to pay people $15 an hour and health insurance, Walmart will drop DoorDash and either stop doing deliveries or hire their own workers.
[05:26]	thiel3	is there anyone i can talk to here?
[05:26]	TR News	"tl;dr: Emissions would increase by 60x." https://limited.systems/articles/google-search-vs-chatgpt-emissions/ |
[05:26]	TR Bot	 Emissions from ChatGPT are much higher than from conventional search Wim Vanderbauwhede
[05:26]	TR News	"The battery was so flat that all the electronics had gone weird and it was registering no fuel" https://jasper.tandy.is/blogging/saturday-17 |
[05:26]	TR Bot	 Jasper is blogging Saturday
[05:27]	TR News	"Netblocks issued a statement declaring that their official metric demonstrated disruptions to X" https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/pakistan-experiences-internet-disruption-during-virtual-pti-rally/ | Source: JURIST
[05:27]	TR Bot	 Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally - JURIST - News
[05:27]	DaemonFC	You can talk to me I suppose.
[05:27]	TR News	"That plunge was in large part due to the authorities' decision to put severe restrictions on RFE/RL" https://www.rferl.org/a/kyrgyzstan-media-journalists-raided-jailed/32784684.html | Source: RFERL
[05:27]	TR Bot	 Kyrgyzstan's Vibrant Media Space In Peril After Journalists Raided, Jailed
[05:27]	thiel3	DaemonFC: who is Lobsta
[05:28]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: All Doordash really is, is slavery as a "tech company with an app".
[05:28]	thiel3	DaemonFC: is there scrollback available as advertised in /topic or no?
[05:28]	TR News	"not being a racist" https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/ | Source: Modern Diplomacy
[05:28]	TR Bot	 My DEI Experience -It Must be Removed - Modern Diplomacy
[05:28]	DaemonFC	A persistent troll.
[05:28]	DaemonFC	Putting it mildly.
[05:28]	DaemonFC	 /history will display a scrollback.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: I didn't say it was funny that they were doing it.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	it is really bad
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[05:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Windows TCO Stories
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	the super-rich   doubled their  welath in 4 years
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	while many sank
[05:29]	thiel3	perhaps i am a troll, just don't reckon ever doing it here
[05:30]	DaemonFC	Right, and the only reason Walmart does business with Doordash is so they don't have to pay minimum wage and benefits for grocery delivery.
[05:30]	thiel3	hmm irssi doesn't like /history 
[05:30]	DaemonFC	If Doordash had to, then their value to Walmart as an employment law condom would vanish.
[05:30]	thiel3	isn't that some non-irc standard?
[05:30]	TR News	"In a statement to the Washington Post, which first reported the news" https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/openai-suspends-startup-used-gpt-4-model-impersonate-democratic-presidential-candidate/ | Source: Silicon Angle
[05:30]	TR Bot	suspends startup that used GPT-4 model to impersonate presidential candidate Dean Phillips - SiliconANGLE
[05:30]	DaemonFC	It's part of IRCv3.
[05:30]	thiel3	ick
[05:30]	TR News	Right of Publicity https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/01/20/openai-dean-phillips-ban-chatgpt/ | Source: The Washington Post
[05:31]	thiel3	DaemonFC: how long does the scrollback go?
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Oh, enough for general context.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Maybe several hundred lines.
[05:31]	TR News	When you let scum from Microsoft run things https://futurism.com/the-byte/sam-altman-chatbot-joe-biden | Source: Futurism
[05:31]	TR Bot	 Group Linked to Sam Altman Launches AI to Defeat Joe Biden
[05:31]	thiel3	meh i thought i'd get months of history nvm
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Why do you want months of history?
[05:32]	TR News	"creative industries are viewing this as a step backwards from the copyright exemption for text" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/getty-images-ceo-calls-supporting-creative-industries-licensed-imagery-ai-training-1722878 | Source: International Business Times
[05:32]	TR Bot	 Getty Images CEO Calls for Supporting Creative Industries With Licensed Imagery AI Training | IBTimes UK
[05:32]	thiel3	there are topics i want info on and i wanted to grep if they've been discussed here
[05:33]	DaemonFC	https://www.investopedia.com/earn-less-than-55k-get-overtime-7964491
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Earn Less Than $55,068? You May Well Get Overtime
[05:33]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: No more bumping people to salary and paying them $2,000 more to get rid of overtime pay and then making them work 60-70 hours a week.
[05:33]	DaemonFC	Discount retailers do that a lot.
[05:34]	DaemonFC	Not just Walmart, but Meijer, Best Buy, the fast food industry.
[05:34]	TR News	"A recent report estimated that there were over 141 billion visits to pirate sites in 2023." https://torrentfreak.com/canada-is-a-video-piracy-hotspot-while-brazil-shows-positive-signs-240121/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[05:34]	TR Bot	is a Video Piracy Hotspot While Brazil Sees Piracy in Decline' * TorrentFreak
[05:34]	TR News	"On modern desktop and laptop computers, there is rarely a need to think about memory." https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/640k-was-never-enough-for-anyone-how-dos-broke-free/ | Source: Hackaday
[05:34]	TR Bot	Was Never Enough For Anyone: How DOS Broke Free | Hackaday
[05:35]	TR News	"This tutorial will help you to get LibreOffice 7.6 on Ubuntu side-by-side with and without removing the preinstalled version" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2024/01/how-to-install-libreoffice-76-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[05:35]	TR Bot	 How To Install LibreOffice 7.6 on Ubuntu
[05:36]	TR News	"This comprehensive guide covers how to install and configure the LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) stack on your Ubuntu 22.04" https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-and-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: Unix Men
[05:36]	TR Bot	 How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04?
[05:36]	TR News	"Apple's EPIC malicious compliance validates the IRP program being a sham" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/apple's-epic-malicious-compliance:d
[05:36]	TR Bot	 Apple's EPIC malicious compliance validates the IRP program being a sham
[05:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  Review: Solus 4.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Review_Solus_4_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Review_Solus_4_5.gmi 
[05:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Review: Solus 4.5
[05:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: If we did adopt, the feds and state would give us about $5,000 in refundable tax credits each year. That would definitely help.
[05:39]	DaemonFC	Then again, depending on a program from the government for your survival is a bad idea.
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[05:40]	DaemonFC	There's another program that would give us about another $750 a month to adopt on top of that.
[05:41]	DaemonFC	I'm glad there are programs like that.
[05:41]	DaemonFC	But it's unfortunate that the wrong type of people take them.
[05:41]	DaemonFC	When I was younger I had some friends at school who were in foster care.
[05:42]	DaemonFC	Their foster mother was a nice lady.
[05:42]	DaemonFC	She really did use the money for things they needed.
[05:42]	DaemonFC	She took them out of the public schools and sent them to a better private one.
[05:43]	DaemonFC	She took them around to their doctor appointments and stuff in a big van she got. They always had plenty of clothes and toys, and they seemed to be doing as well as anyone.
[05:43]	DaemonFC	So it was not one of those "they take the money and chain the kids to a toilet" situations.
[05:43]	DaemonFC	You get that too sometimes.
[05:44]	DaemonFC	The State is incompetent so they don't really watch what they're doing with those children and then they end up in a home with some real monsters.
[05:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I think in a sense it was that woman's "job" to be a foster mother. She spent almost every minute of the day taking care of those kids.
[05:45]	DaemonFC	It's a well intentioned program.
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR]	sounds liike it
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR]	did you see:
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/New_Interview_With_Richard_Stallman_in_the_Exploring_Antinatali.shtml
[05:45]	TR Bot	 Techrights New Interview With Richard Stallman in the 'Exploring Antinatalism' Podcast (Very Personal Topics Covered)
[05:45]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS covers some related points
[05:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Well, adoption is "different" because you're not adding to a problem.
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	about paternts
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and how many fail to look after their kids
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	worth watching
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	you can probvably relate as you are gay
[05:46]	DaemonFC	I'd be fine with adopting. I don't want to have my own children because there's too many here that have nothing and nobody loves them and nobody takes care of them.
[05:46]	DaemonFC	It's very selfish to create more instead of solving a problem that exists.
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[05:46]	schestowitz[TR]	but you can also adopt pets
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR]	non-human pets
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR]	they cause vastly less pollution
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR]	never mind money
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and they can be loyal companions
[05:47]	schestowitz[TR]	not become drug dealer
[05:48]	TR News	2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1 https://computer.rip/2024-01-21-multi-channel-audio-part-1.html
[05:48]	TR Bot	 2024-01-21 multi-channel audio part 1
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[05:53]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: What software are they using on that video call?
[05:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: He says back in the 60s when having a family wasn't as horribly stressful as it is now.
[05:57]	DaemonFC	Hell, the 90s even.
[05:58]	DaemonFC	I mean, I'm sure the 60s were a less stressful time than the 90s. Every decade that goes by, the world gets more crowded and more polluted, and people get meaner, and the crime goes up, and intelligence scores and educational scores go down.
[05:58]	DaemonFC	I'm talking about useful, practical abilities, like reading, or solving math problems, or the ability to think abstractly or in complicated ways.
[05:59]	DaemonFC	The younger people now just seem extremely neurotic and not fully formed into individuals.
● Jan 22
[06:00]	DaemonFC	In some ways, I would say that an older man in a relationship with someone in their 20s is a pedophile, because a person today in their early 20s has this "childlike" mentality.
[06:00]	DaemonFC	They have unrealistic expectations, their worldview is not that of an adult.
[06:00]	DaemonFC	They weren't educated or they were barely educated. They got cheated.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	They're less cognitively formed than I was, in some ways, age 10.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	And their parents didn't have any time for them and the State replaced their education with mush and gender confusion.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	So I mean, it's not their fault. They're the victims of a horrible crime that society has allowed to befall them.
[06:03]	DaemonFC	And, you know, they don't get out there, they don't get thrown out into the world like I did and they don't get a concept of having responsibilities so then you find them in their 30s even with no job, never had a job, playing video games in their parents' house while some of the others overdosed or went to prison or the military.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	You know, there still are parents that say get out of my house when you're 18, and the guy can't find a job so shit happens.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Either the gangs or the military recruiters get em.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Or they start working fast food or something.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, the Pope said I've been bad.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	Not having kids, having cats instead.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:08]	DaemonFC	The Catholic Church is a criminal organization.
[06:08]	DaemonFC	But things that have been around a long time become authoritative.
[06:08]	DaemonFC	Few people take a new cult seriously because it hasn't been around very long.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	But you take something that's been around for thousands of years and a lot of people become compelled to believe it because it's been around a while.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	"Oh yeah, Jesus started this it's been around for a couple thousand years."
[06:10]	DaemonFC	You tell people a religion was started in the 60s by a guy who said he just wanted to fuck the IRS, and they view it differently, of course.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	Germany declared Scientology a criminal organization and banned it, because it wasn't well established.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	The United States allows anyone who puts a pasta bowl on their head to say they're a religion, so anything goes.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	The "mainstream" ones are having such a field day abdicating themselves of their social responsibilities using the First Amendment that everyone gets to ride, in some ways.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	In other ways, the government doesn't go along with it as much.
[06:14]	DaemonFC	They know if they don't go along with Islamic prison meals they're going to have a bigger problem than if they make the one guy wearing a pasta strainer unhappy.
[06:18]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, the Pope said I've been bad.
[06:18]	schestowitz[TR]	how many kids does the pope have?
[06:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and jesus for that matter?
[06:23]	TR News	GNU/Linux growing in Hungary https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hungary/#monthly-200903-202401
[06:23]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Hungary | Statcounter Global Stats
[06:24]	DaemonFC	None.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	https://www.investopedia.com/p-and-g-expected-to-report-lower-income-despite-revenue-gains-8546484
[06:25]	TR Bot	 Procter & Gamble Expected to Report Lower Income Despite Revenue Gains
[06:25]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Revenue up 4%, net income down 0.8%.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they've been putting out huge rebates.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	They're in a holding pattern, clearly, not wanting to commit to price cuts, but realizing they went too far and the economy is falling over.
[06:25]	TR News	GNU/Linux 6% in Hong Kong https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hong-kong/#monthly-200901-202401
[06:25]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Hong Kong | Statcounter Global Stats
[06:26]	DaemonFC	"While the company saw surges in its share price tied to positive earnings reports, it also suffered when it announced $2.5 billion in restructuring charges tied to its Gillette business."
[06:26]	DaemonFC	There was a huge backlash to a bunch of tranny ads where some dad put his daughter on testosterone and helped her shave.
[06:26]	DaemonFC	And so they had a Bud Light moment there.
[06:26]	TR News	And 9% in Ukraine https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-200901-202401
[06:26]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global Stats
[06:30]	TR News	Women Still Typically Outlive Men, But That Gender Gap Is Slowly Closing https://www.sciencealert.com/women-still-typically-outlive-men-but-that-gender-gap-is-slowly-closing
[06:30]	TR Bot	Still Typically Outlive Men, But That Gender Gap Is Slowly Closing : ScienceAlert
[06:31]	TR News	'Smoking Gun': Study Reveals How Virus May Trigger Multiple Sclerosis https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-gun-study-reveals-how-virus-may-trigger-multiple-sclerosis
[06:31]	TR Bot	Gun': Study Reveals How Virus May Trigger Multiple Sclerosis : ScienceAlert
[06:33]	TR News	Overpopulation proven https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/despite-s-korea-s-low-birth-rate-babies-are-being-sent-overseas-for-adoption-why
[06:33]	TR Bot	 Despite S. Koreas low birth rate, babies are still being sent overseas for adoption | The Straits Times
[06:34]	TR News	Malaysias economic reforms set to eat into budgets of middle, high-income households https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-s-economic-reforms-set-to-eat-into-budgets-of-middle-high-income-households
[06:34]	TR Bot	 Malaysias economic reforms set to eat into budgets of middle, high-income households | The Straits Times
[06:39]	TR News	Russia draft law would confiscate assets from people spreading false information https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/russia-draft-law-would-confiscate-assets-from-people-spreading-false-information/
[06:39]	TR Bot	 Russia draft law would confiscate assets from people 'spreading false information' - JURIST - News
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[06:45]	TR News	Microsoft: state-backed actors in our systems for nearly two months https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-state-backed-actors-in-our-systems-for-nearly-two-months.html
[06:45]	TR Bot	- Microsoft: state-backed actors in our systems for nearly two months
[06:47]	TR News	[Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Two_Copywrongs_Don_t_Make_a_Copyright_Screenshots_of_Pages.shtml
[06:47]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Two Copywrongs Dont Make a Copyright (Screenshots of Pages of a Misogynist Who Attacks Women)
[06:48]	TR News	Nslookup Command in GNU/Linux with Examples https://idroot.us/nslookup-command-linux/
[06:48]	TR Bot	 Nslookup Command in Linux with Examples - idroot
[06:48]	TR News	How To Install Stable Diffusion on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-stable-diffusion-ubuntu-22-04/
[06:48]	TR Bot	 How To Install Stable Diffusion on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
[06:48]	TR News	How To Install Composer on openSUSE https://idroot.us/install-composer-opensuse/
[06:48]	TR Bot	 How To Install Composer on openSUSE - idroot
[06:50]	TR News	Nearly 1 in 5 Online Health Tests 'Quackery'. Here's How to Avoid Them. https://www.sciencealert.com/nearly-1-in-5-online-health-tests-quackery-heres-how-to-avoid-them
[06:50]	TR Bot	1 in 5 Online Health Tests 'Quackery'. Here's How to Avoid Them. : ScienceAlert
[06:50]	TR News	How to install Rustdesk on Ubuntu https://owlhowto.com/how-to-install-rustdesk-on-ubuntu/
[06:50]	TR Bot	 How to install Rustdesk on Ubuntu
[06:52]	TR News	How to Install the Icinga 2 Monitoring Software on Ubuntu 22.04 https://vitux.com/how-to-install-icinga-2-monitoring-software-on-ubuntu/
[06:52]	TR Bot	to Install the Icinga 2 Monitoring Software on Ubuntu 22.04 - VITUX
[06:52]	TR News	How to monitor your Pop!_OS system resources https://www.fosslinux.com/137463/how-to-monitor-your-pop_os-system-resources.htm
[06:52]	TR Bot	 How to Monitor Your Pop!_OS System Resources | FOSS Linux
[06:53]	TR News	How to install and run OneNote note-taking app on Ubuntu https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-and-run-onenote-note-taking-app-on-ubuntu/
[06:53]	TR Bot	 How to install and run OneNote note-taking app on Ubuntu - Linux Shout
[06:53]	TR News	How To Repair the GRUB Bootloader Using A Ubuntu Live USB Drive https://www.ubuntupit.com/how-to-repair-the-grub-bootloader-using-a-ubuntu-live-usb-drive/
[06:53]	TR Bot	 How To Repair the GRUB Bootloader Using A Ubuntu Live USB Drive
[06:53]	TR News	How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04? https://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-and-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-22-04/
[06:53]	TR Bot	 How To Install Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP (LAMP) Stack on Ubuntu 22.04?
[06:57]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[06:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[06:59]	TR News	How to use an L298N with Raspberry PI Pico: Driving Motors with MicroPython https://peppe8o.com/l298n-raspberry-pi-pico/
[06:59]	TR Bot	 How to use an L298N with Raspberry PI Pico: Driving Motors with MicroPython
[06:59]	TR News	Waveshare PCIe to M.2 adapter for Raspberry Pi 5 will only cost you $8.99 https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/01/22/waveshare-cheap-pcie-to-m-2-adapter-for-raspberry-pi-5/
[06:59]	TR Bot	 Waveshare PCIe to M.2 adapter for Raspberry Pi 5 will only cost you $8.99 - CNX Software
[06:59]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security and Windows TCO Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi 
[06:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO Leftovers
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[07:02]	TR News	 (NEW):  Retro and Raspberry Pi Picks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Retro_and_Raspberry_Pi_Picks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Retro_and_Raspberry_Pi_Picks.gmi 
[07:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Retro and Raspberry Pi Picks
[07:04]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_and_Programming.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_and_Programming.gmi 
[07:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming
[07:10]	TR News	"It was made clear that there could not be a status of not being a racist, rather you have to be anti-racist. In other words, you cannot remain silent, and you are pressured to take action to demonstrate your allegiance to this ideological mantra." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/
[07:10]	TR Bot	 My DEI Experience -It Must be Removed - Modern Diplomacy
[07:10]	TR News	"This was beginning to make me feel like recruitment for the paramilitary storm troopers, also known as Brown Shirts, who organized activities to intimidate opponents and Jews." https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/01/21/my-dei-experience-it-must-be-removed/
[07:14]	TR News	Techrights Links 22/01/2024: Microsoft's Chatbot Openly Promotes Fascism, Getty Images Latest to Call for Action http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Links_22_01_2024_Microsoft_s_Chatbot_Openly_Promotes_Fascism_Ge.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Links_22_01_2024_Microsoft_s_Chatbot_Openly_Promotes_Fascism_Ge.gmi 
[07:14]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 22/01/2024: Microsoft's Chatbot Openly Promotes Fascism, Getty Images Latest to Call for Action
[07:21]	TR News	 (NEW):  AV Linux 23 Review: Linux for Creators with Enlightenment Desktop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/AV_Linux_23_Review_Linux_for_Creators_with_Enlightenment_Deskto.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/AV_Linux_23_Review_Linux_for_Creators_with_Enlightenment_Deskto.gmi 
[07:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines AV Linux 23 Review: Linux for Creators with Enlightenment Desktop
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[07:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Consider this.
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR]	go ahead
[07:33]	DaemonFC	If the world had half as many people, things would be cheaper. We wouldn't all have to panic about being on the verge of so many disasters.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	There'd be less war.
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR]	but we were there
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR]	4 billion people
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR]	not long ago
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Bad things happen when there's too many people around, even if you can figure out how to feed them all.
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	your parents were around
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	let me check which year
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	hang on
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	the black death i europe was very temporary decrease
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR]	based on this graph
[07:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: 1974 or so.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	4 billion people.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	Everyone got around in cars twice as big as we have no.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	*now
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_growth,_1700-2100,_2022_revision.png
[07:35]	TR Bot	 Projections of population growth - Wikipedia
[07:35]	TR Bot	 File:World population growth, 1700-2100, 2022 revision.png - Wikipedia
[07:35]	DaemonFC	6-8 miles a gallon maybe.
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	1987 5 billion
[07:35]	DaemonFC	40-50 cents a gallon for gas. That's WITH an oil embargo.
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	1950 2.5
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	we almost quadrupled since WW111
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	1
[07:36]	DaemonFC	Yeah, war never kills enough to affect the population much.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	At least not for long.
[07:36]	DaemonFC	People get back from war, make a lot of babies, things get worse, then there's more war.
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	https://ourworldindata.org/population-growth
[07:37]	TR Bot	 Population Growth - Our World in Data
[07:37]	DaemonFC	It's the same with disease.
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
[07:37]	TR Bot	 World Population by Year - Worldometer
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	1975
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	4,069,437,231
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	-4000
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	7,000,000
[07:38]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I remember Meathead arguing with Archie Bunker.
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	7 million
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	not billion
[07:38]	DaemonFC	"We got 4 billion people in the world and can't figure out how to feed half of them."
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	took 1000 years to double
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	-3000
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR]	14,000,000
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR]	about 150,000,000 200 BC
[07:40]	TR News	Jetway launches the JF35-ADN1 A 3.5 defective chip maker Intel N97 SBC designed for industrial robotics applications https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/01/21/jetway-jf35-adn1-3-5-intel-n97-sbc-industrial-robotics-applications/
[07:40]	TR Bot	 Jetway launches the JF35-ADN1 A 3.5 Intel N97 SBC designed for industrial robotics applications - CNX Software
[07:40]	TR News	Garden Light Turned Mesh Network Node https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/garden-light-turned-mesh-network-node/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:40]	TR Bot	Light Turned Mesh Network Node | Hackaday
[07:44]	TR News	"smartwatch" https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/reverse-engineering-the-web-nywhere-watch-for-2001-era-smartwatch-action/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:44]	TR Bot	The Web-@nywhere Watch For 2001-Era Smartwatch Action | Hackaday
[07:44]	TR News	Computer Logic Spins With No Electricity https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/computer-logic-spins-with-no-electricity/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:44]	TR Bot	Logic Spins With No Electricity | Hackaday
[07:45]	TR News	Simulating Cellular Biology In The Browser https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/simulating-cellular-biology-in-the-browser/ | Source: Hackaday | sadly, Microsoft GitHub and TypeScript, i.e. hostile towards the open Web and helpful to DRM pushets
[07:45]	TR Bot	Cellular Biology In The Browser | Hackaday
[07:48]	TR News	But revenue and income are not the same https://siliconangle.com/2024/01/21/boomi-ceo-absolute-predator-mode/
[07:48]	TR Bot	CEO: 'We are in absolute predator mode' - SiliconANGLE
[07:49]	TR News	Companies that speak only of "revenue" typically to distract from their income/profit, not just because it is less impressive; sometimes it is outright bad
[07:51]	TR News	You can even buy from yourself to fake "revenue" (by proxy); that does nothing for profitability, it is like buybacks that merely embezzle or getting some fake "share buyer" to help create fictional "value" by extrapolation.
[07:51]	TR News	Nightshade https://hackaday.com/2024/01/21/creators-can-fight-back-against-ai-with-nightshade/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:51]	TR Bot	Can Fight Back Against AI With Nightshade | Hackaday
[07:52]	TR News	WASTE of energy. Make the programs a LOT leaner, INSTEAD. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intels-next-gen-arrow-lake-cpus-might-come-without-hyperthreaded-cores-leak-points-to-24-cpu-cores-ddr5-6400-support-and-a-new-800-series-chipset
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Intel's next-gen Arrow Lake CPUs might come without hyperthreaded cores leak points to 24 CPU cores, DDR5-6400 support, and a new 800-series chipset | Tom's Hardware
[07:53]	TR News	"A criminal law professor says that the fake posters may be illegal under Finnish defamation laws" https://yle.fi/a/74-20070529
[07:53]	TR Bot	 Fake election posters pop up at Helsinki tram stops | Yle News | Yle
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[07:59]	TR News	Some Hong Kong lawyers linked to 2019 protest humanitarian fund could see suspensions after police complaints https://hongkongfp.com/2024/01/22/some-hong-kong-lawyers-linked-to-2019-protest-fund-could-see-suspensions-following-nat-sec-police-complaints/
[07:59]	TR Bot	 HK lawyers linked to 2019 demos fund may face suspension
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[08:01]	TR News	Amazon sold a fake RTX 4090 FrankenGPU cobbled together using a 4080 GPU and board scam card was found in a returns pallet deal https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amazon-sold-a-fake-rtx-4090-frankengpu-cobbled-together-with-a-laptop-gpu-and-4080-board-scam-board-was-found-in-a-returns-pallet-deal
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Amazon sold a fake RTX 4090 FrankenGPU cobbled together using a 4080 GPU and board scam card was found in a returns pallet deal | Tom's Hardware
[08:01]	TR News	Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/01/pakistan-experiences-internet-disruption-during-virtual-pti-rally/
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Pakistan experiences internet disruption during virtual PTI rally - JURIST - News
[08:04]	TR News	"Says Abusive Monopolist Microsoft Boss" https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Says_Microsoft_Boss.shtml
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights "Says Microsoft Boss"
[08:04]	TR News	[Meme] Thank You for a Decade in Power Over a Staff Tribunal (Not Even My Colleagues) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/Meme_Thank_You_for_a_Decade_in_Power_Over_a_Staff_Tribunal_Not_.shtml
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Thank You for a Decade in Power Over a Staff Tribunal (Not Even My Colleagues)
[08:04]	TR News	 (NEW):  CapyPDF 0.8.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/CapyPDF_0_8_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/CapyPDF_0_8_0_released.gmi 
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines CapyPDF 0.8.0 released
[08:04]	TR News	Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Militants_Who_Attacked_Techrights_by_Doing_Horrible_and_Illegal.shtml
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights Militants Who Attacked Techrights by Doing Horrible and Illegal Things Try to Delete Themselves From the Web
[08:04]	TR News	Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Lozza_Who_Had_Already_Been_Arrested_Tried_to_Take_Down_the_Site.shtml
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights Lozza, Who Had Already Been Arrested, Tried to Take Down the Site That Spoke About Lozza's Crimes (Committed Against That Site Too!)
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[08:10]	TR News	European Patent Office Staff Representatives Express Concerns About the New Pension Scheme Regulations and Transfer of Pension Rights (Contracting States) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/European_Patent_Office_Staff_Representatives_Express_Concerns_A.shtml
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Techrights European Patent Office Staff Representatives Express Concerns About the New Pension Scheme Regulations and Transfer of Pension Rights (Contracting States)
[08:10]	TR News	In the European Patent Office, Hans van Houtte Helps Stack the Appeals Committee (Internal Tribunal) in Favour of the Dictators Who Break Laws (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/In_the_European_Patent_Office_Hans_van_Houtte_Helps_Stack_the_A.shtml
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Techrights In the European Patent Office, Hans van Houtte Helps Stack the Appeals Committee (Internal Tribunal) in Favour of the Dictators Who Break Laws
[08:10]	TR News	C23: a slightly better C https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/
[08:10]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2024/01/21/c23-a-slightly-better-c/ )
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[08:12]	TR News	OpenBSD PF-based firewalls suffer differently from DoS attacks https://blog.apnic.net/2024/01/22/openbsd-pf-based-firewalls-suffer-differently-from-dos-attacks/
[08:12]	TR Bot	 OpenBSD PF-based firewalls suffer differently from DoS attacks | APNIC Blog
[08:13]	TR News	Koji download-build kernel-6.7.1-200.fc39 https://dbaxps.blogspot.com/2024/01/koji-download-build-kernel-671-200fc39.html
[08:13]	TR Bot	 Openstack RDO && KVM Hypervisor: Koji download-build kernel-6.7.1-200.fc39
[08:14]	TR News	Simon Ser: Status update, January 2024 https://emersion.fr/blog/2024/status-update-60/
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Status update, January 2024 emersion
[08:16]	TR News	Possessions are a gas, not a liquid https://rubenerd.com/possessions-are-a-gas-not-a-liquid/
[08:16]	TR Bot	Possessions are a gas, not a liquid
[08:19]	TR News	GNU World Order 548 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_548_ogg.ogg
[08:20]	TR News	easyVoid version 6.0.1 released https://bkhome.org/news/202401/easyvoid-version-601-released.html
[08:20]	TR Bot	 easyVoid version 6.0.1 released
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[08:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines easyVoid version 6.0 released
[08:22]	TR News	Linus Torvalds Announces the First GNU/Linux Kernel 6.8 Release Candidate https://9to5linux.com/linus-torvalds-announces-the-first-linux-kernel-6-8-release-candidate
[08:22]	TR Bot	Torvalds Announces the First Linux Kernel 6.8 Release Candidate - 9to5Linux
[08:25]	TR News	HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI ... just putting new buzzword lipstick on the word "automation" https://www.inventiva.co.in/trends/amidst-workforce-layoffs-paytm-ceo-vijay-shekhar-sharma-says-demand-for-workforce-likely-to-shrink-as-paytm-ups-ai-play/
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Amidst Workforce Layoffs, Paytm CEO Vijay Shekhar Sharma Says Demand For Workforce Likely To Shrink As Paytm Ups AI Play - Inventiva
[08:28]	TR News	Suppose Linux (kernel) has had 10,000 contributors (unique people). Yet every year for 15 years the media will try to associate it with one, Hans Reiser. How about linking Microsoft to the many CRIMINALS, associated with it even at a very high level? Media is rotten.
[08:29]	TR News	Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/20/Lack_of_news.shtml
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Techrights Tracking the Demise of 'Linux' News Sites (and of News Sites in General)
[08:29]	TR News	Over at Tux Machines... https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/21/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml
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[08:30]	TR News	Nora is billed as an elegant music player https://www.linuxlinks.com/nora-music-player/
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[08:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I was able to arrange the order in which some claims went to the insurance company such that they covered everything except $19 of the urgent care visit last week.
[08:33]	DaemonFC	If I hadn't then they would have sent us a bill for nearly $400 for running a flu test and writing a prescription.
[08:33]	TR News	The lion's share of Linux malware comes from Microsoft servers, e.g. NPM and GitHub. But the media fancies blaming "Linux".
[08:33]	DaemonFC	Mandy says I'm stupid and that I don't do anything to help him. He doesn't appreciate that I'm keeping everything running here.
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[08:34]	DaemonFC	I am the reason we have a roof and heat and not a pile of airpods while we're living in a tent.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	His mind is really so bad when it comes to adulting that it's scary.
[08:34]	DaemonFC	He doesn't know how to get by in a country like ours.
[08:35]	DaemonFC	He says it's even more difficult and confusing in this country than in the one he's from, where they use Frontpage 2000 to make government Web sites.
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[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> Mandy says I'm stupid and that I don't do anything to help him. He doesn't appreciate that I'm keeping everything running here.
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe a lot happens
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	but it is not noticed
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	my advice:
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	do it after he is back from work
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	so he can see the time you put in
[08:37]	schestowitz[TR]	another option isss,
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[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	make a list
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it was an old issue for housewives
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	later known as "stay in home moms"
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	or "welfare moms"
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	they demonised women
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	so that the old household wage
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	would require TWO people working
[08:38]	schestowitz[TR]	for the same salary as before
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	thennn theeen rush to   do washing and stuff at 9pm or weekends
[08:39]		*liberty_box has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	and nobody raises the kids
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	except state schools
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. the oligarch
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	and maybe some extracurricular "classes" after s hooll
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	because "mom and dad" are both at work
[08:39]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The State schools are so bad that even the Christian church schools are better.
[08:39]	DaemonFC	That isn't even a new thing.
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	might pick yuou up
[08:39]	DaemonFC	That's been true in the US for over 20 years.
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	throw you at TV set (Trump, Bill Saysss)
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	while they do the washing 
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: yes, but there are workarounds
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	like home-schooling
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	or kin kids or..
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	(no kids, or frugal life)
[08:41]	DaemonFC	I can't imagine how it's more difficult in the United States than a country where the president just tells the police to go out and kill people, and they kill thousands of people, and nobody does anything about it, and he gets more popular.
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR]	but many don't choose the bracketed stuff
[08:41]	DaemonFC	But hearing that it doesn't surprise me that their government Web sites are using Microsoft Frontpage 2000.
[08:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Here, if the police shoot and kill one person, even a very VERY bad person who had it coming, they take their badge and gun, there's an investigation.
[08:42]	DaemonFC	Maybe even murder charges for the cop.
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: dutertue conditioned people to think a mass murderer is OK
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and a hero
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	then his son was elected
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[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	it is like desantis and trumo
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	you lose track of who is more radical
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	but they ccchange the barrr
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	now it's not radical like "the other guy"
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	so you get aay with really nasty policies
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	like women must bear a kid
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	just because
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	to keep women down
[08:43]	DaemonFC	And if she has a miscarriage at home there's a murder investigation on.
[08:43]	DaemonFC	I mean, come on.
[08:43]	DaemonFC	In America. No shit.
[08:44]	DaemonFC	What is this? The witch trials?
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[08:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, then women and men get permanent sterilizing procedures. Because they don't dare risk it if they're smart.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	if
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and sober
[08:45]	DaemonFC	In the US, child support isn't as easy to run away from as putting lipstick on and calling yourself Britney.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	i wanted to say more above
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	but never mind
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	you make it hard for me to focus on the links
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	let's talk tech
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	you mentioned some stuff about mandy
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	i gave my POV
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	let's get back to tech
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	not marcUS
[08:46]	DaemonFC	Stallman mentioned that having kids would make his life and their lives Hell.
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	he said many things
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	like how it worsens relationship
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and makes iiit hard to accompish stuff
[08:46]	DaemonFC	It does. Like, anyone who is married needs help destroying the relationship.
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	because society says kids always come first
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and you need to juggle some job to look after them
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	so not much gets done
[08:46]	DaemonFC	When you have kids and they're keeping you from sleeping all night.
[08:47]	DaemonFC	And then the cops are out because after 5 days without sleep you went crazy or something.
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and eventually, even if you invvvet in them, you can end up with some criminal like Lozza
[08:47]	DaemonFC	I mean, then they point a camera on you and you're on COPS.
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	so the better option is, abort more
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and maintain a society where imbeciles and thugs are not born
[08:47]	DaemonFC	And people are laughing at what's going on in your trailer and that the cops are going to beat you up and send you to court.
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	society does not bvenefit
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and humanity is suffering more
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	they clog up public services
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	like couts and police
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	like his old boss needing to phone cops
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	biab
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	back to tech anyway
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	about mandy, see my take
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	it might help
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	do it in sight
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	it'll be appreicated more
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	women did loads around the home
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	when it was called "housewife"
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	like a job
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	childcare is VERY expensive
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like you work a job and  half as one parent just for something to look after 1.5 kid while you are out working
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	not inc. car costs
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	cause living closer to work is too expensive
[08:49]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it is. When my mom got a job, they were spending half of what she was making putting me in a daycare.
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and you ahave mortgage payments
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	the women don't raise the kids
[08:49]	DaemonFC	And that daycare is a gun store now.
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and nobody cooks means
[08:49]	DaemonFC	I swear it is.
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	so people eat food with chemicals, out of platic
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	not fresh, no cooking
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	no cooking skills either
[08:49]	schestowitz[TR]	no housewives
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and no liost of choreeees
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	they get  "helpers"a nd "cleaners"
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	for whom they work outside the home
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	they could just as well do the job themsleves
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and gain skills
[08:50]	schestowitz[TR]	likke electrician and plumber-type skills
[08:50]	DaemonFC	Yeah, having a stay at home parent that cooks, cleans, and minds the children saves more money than them getting a job would bring in.
[08:51]	DaemonFC	My cousin is a nurse. Her husband stays at home with the kids.
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	many women worked aprt time
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	some women still do
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	but that too might be too much
[08:51]	DaemonFC	I have relatives that said "He should be ashamed of himself."
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	even if you have just two little brats
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not just watching them
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	it's doing many other things at the same time
[08:51]	schestowitz[TR]	looking after kids is a job
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	mayyybe measured by savings
[08:52]	DaemonFC	I said, "For what? Cleaning the house? Sparing them daycare costs? Being a dad that is watching the kids instead of people at government school teaching the boy how to get a sex change? He's a great cook."
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	rather than income
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	fga
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	*familieis could eat good meals
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	not shit in plastic with preservatives
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	so a parent staying home worked too
[08:52]	DaemonFC	I said, "Seriously, have you ever been over to their house? It's clean, he cooks, the children are cared for and not being brainwashed by the government."
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	or part timing like my mom did and many moms did in 1980s and 90s
[08:52]	DaemonFC	"It's fucking idyllic. Leave him alone."
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	not the men's salaries   are lower
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	per purchasing power
[08:52]	DaemonFC	And so by the time I said that, they shut up.
[08:52]	schestowitz[TR]	so "the kids aren't alright"
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS says his mom had a bad relationship with him
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and he wanted to get away
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	to MIT etc
[08:53]	DaemonFC	Yeah, the only answer is don't give the government any children.
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, his mom worked in some clerical job
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and his dad was MIA
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	in the war or something
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	WW21
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	*2
[08:53]	DaemonFC	That's what you're doing. Killing yourself so the government can brainwash them and then send them off to war or prison or something.
[08:53]	schestowitz[TR]	so he probably didn't see her much
[08:54]	DaemonFC	It doesn't suit you.
[08:54]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, he has a brother
[08:54]	DaemonFC	You'll be happier without them.
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[08:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I clean the apartment. If Mandy cooks I wash up. If I cook, I still usually wash up.
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, i know
[08:55]	DaemonFC	He has more physical work. He's tired. He's been dealing with idiots all day.
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	you may be spending more than 8hrs a day
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	if you measure it
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	7 days, 8 hours a day
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	or 168/7/3
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	about 6 a day
[08:55]	DaemonFC	Yeah, he doesn't handle any of the finances.
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	which is full time job
[08:55]	DaemonFC	It would be a catastrophe if he even tried.
[08:55]	schestowitz[TR]	6 hours every day
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	6 sleep, 6 chores, 12 other things 
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	aka "life"
[08:56]	DaemonFC	I've been assembling our income tax filing again.
[08:56]	DaemonFC	I spent all week saving his job while he had the flu.
[08:56]	TR News	California and Oregon Ease Covid Isolation Rules, Breaking With C.D.C. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/21/us/covid-rules-california-oregon-cdc.html
[08:56]	TR Bot	 California and Oregon Ease Covid Isolation Rules, Breaking With C.D.C. - The New York Times
[08:56]	DaemonFC	And running around town and dealing with the FMLA people.
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: put it to him like this
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	(i know i saiudwe'd cover tech)
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	1) income
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	2) savings
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	3) life
[08:56]	schestowitz[TR]	(1) is just one component
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	savings (2) lessen the need for (1)
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and you can then do (3)
[08:57]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I try to focus on maximizing passive streams of income.
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	which is really what couts as actually living
[08:57]	DaemonFC	Like rebates, interest income, other...
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	surviving and living is not the same
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	people hop on a bus at 7am to go to work to survive
[08:57]	DaemonFC	I mean if it's money and you didn't have to do anything for it really....
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	like "work liberates"
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	it does not liberate
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	it oppressed them
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	they get back home 7pm
[08:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and then what?
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	who did the clothes washing?
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	who bought dinner?
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	who cooked it?
[08:58]	DaemonFC	Oh, I wash the clothes.
[08:58]	schestowitz[TR]	cocacola and rolando [sic] mcdonals?
[08:58]	DaemonFC	It's a real process too.
[08:58]	DaemonFC	I set it up like that so I don't have to go to the laundromat.
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	what you said of your coiusin
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	that is jealousy
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	because they have a better routine
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's "unfair"
[08:59]	DaemonFC	I estimate that I save at least $12-14 every week with my system of washing the clothes.
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	like people who took shitvaccine(TM)
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	they get uypset over those who opted out of the pfizer/bourla experiment
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	a failed experiment btw
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	because of envy
[08:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"if i get injured, why won't YOU TOO?"
[08:59]	DaemonFC	I called it on that one after it didn't work.
● Jan 22
[09:00]	DaemonFC	What changed my mind? EVIDENCE.
[09:00]	DaemonFC	That it didn't help me.
[09:00]	DaemonFC	That if I took another one it would just be further risk without benefit.
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	let me put it like this:
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	1980s
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	you are adult now
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	your salary at IBM is $100 an hour
[09:00]	DaemonFC	You know, Matt is like Ken Ham.
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	by today's money
[09:00]	DaemonFC	The creationist, Ken Ham.
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	you might not want to wash your clothes
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	your spouse might
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	now?
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	the salaries are lower
[09:01]	DaemonFC	The moderator asked "What would change your mind?"
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	you can save more per hour then you earn
[09:01]	DaemonFC	Bill Nye says EVIDENCE!
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	so do the "saving thing"
[09:01]	DaemonFC	Ken Ham says "NOTHING!"
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[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	instead of earning enough to cver this expense you can overcome
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	like plumbers who charge 100 an hour
[09:01]	DaemonFC	People who are still on about the COVID vaccine after everything we've seen....are like a fucking Creationist with an Ark Experience in Kentucky.
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	or change your bike stuff
[09:01]	schestowitz[TR]	if you know how, it takes minutes
[09:02]	DaemonFC	They say they believe the world is a few thousand years old and created in 6 days.
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and saves you a lot, plus travel to repair shops
[09:02]	DaemonFC	All the answers are in Genesis.
[09:02]	DaemonFC	And they get really mean if you say "Prove it!"
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[09:02]	DaemonFC	People who still believe in the COVID vaccine are like Ken Ham.
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne's opinion
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	you need tyo remidn mandy
[09:02]	schestowitz[TR]	ewho organised the house
[09:02]	DaemonFC	It's fucking retarded but they are way too invested in it.
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	allm tthe financials, anything like that
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	some thinfgs are intangiables
[09:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and you need to mention those also
[09:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I've done some repair work on my own car.
[09:04]	TR News	Digital Cultures 2023 year in review https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/b-side/digital-cultures-2023-year-in-review/
[09:04]	TR Bot	 The most memorable digital moments of 2023
[09:04]	DaemonFC	I went "That was easy." "They wanted over $1,000 for THAT? I got the parts for $70 off Amazon."
[09:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I watch car repair videos on YouTube.
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	you could get a "real job"
[09:04]	schestowitz[TR]	work 50 hours
[09:05]	DaemonFC	Get a real job. Work 50 hours. Pay some guy $70 to laugh at me and pretend to change my air filter.
[09:05]	DaemonFC	:)
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	earn less than enough to repair the car
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	so in effect working 50-70 hours to get that job done, by proxy
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	my bike got a puncture yesterday
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR]	i already have    experience repairing it
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	shops doo that for about 20 pounds
[09:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The engine on the car runs great.
[09:06]	DaemonFC	My God was that thing a mess though.
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	I can replace the inner tube myself, a 10-minute job
[09:06]	DaemonFC	That old lady sure carboned that engine up bad.
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and no need to go to the shop with bike or wheel
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	so I actually SAVE TIME and money
[09:06]	schestowitz[TR]	yesterday afternoon we fixed the washing machine
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	something had gone loose during the "snap"
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	but anyway
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	do it this way
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	make a list
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	of  things done
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and how much they would cost had you worked 8-65 
[09:07]	DaemonFC	I had to clean carbon out of a lot of nooks and crannies by hand before I felt comfortable even using the carbon cleaning kit.
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, 8-6
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't teleport into work at 9am
[09:07]	DaemonFC	I was worried that I'd send more gunk straight into the engine and have a bigger problem if I didn't.
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	car repairs, food, cleaner
[09:07]	schestowitz[TR]	you know the caveat with cleaner
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a stranger in your home all on his/her own
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	so any time you cannot find something you go,
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	"oh, shit, maybe s/he stole it"
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	very bad feeling
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes they DO steal
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	but you can never even prove it
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	all this so you can leave at 8am to sit in a pew
[09:08]	schestowitz[TR]	doing BS for someone else
[09:09]	DaemonFC	They make nanny cams.
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR]	free?
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR]	the cams?
[09:09]	DaemonFC	People put these in because they don't trust the people they hire.
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR]	the power?
[09:09]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe gulag can repair it
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like he did in bathroom stalls ;-)
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	or in hotels
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	with other people's rooms
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	or e-scooters
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag the camera cracxking man
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	downloads exploit codes from MS github
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR]	then goes rah rah rah... "shit"... "fuck"... lol, "FUCKING TRANSPHOBE"
[09:11]	schestowitz[TR]	"I will never commit a cyber crime"
[09:11]	schestowitz[TR]	[goes commits a crime]
[09:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I don't trust the people in my building too much.
[09:11]	schestowitz[TR]	*commit
[09:11]	DaemonFC	I put a lot of locks on the doors for night time and during the day when I'm asleep.
[09:11]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1qam6277#replies
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Leaks from Red Hat on "Whiteness" and "Allyship" - post regarding Red Hat layoffs
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	" A black person may be hostile or bigoted, but racist in their materials is reserved for systemic racism."
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	Wrong! Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity. Regardless of YOUR race. Any race can be racist.
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	Even if caught on cam you need to press charges
[09:12]	DaemonFC	I figure they'd have to make a hell of a lot of noise and it would slow them down enough to remove the trigger lock and load my gun.
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	or report to police
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	better be there in person
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	and prevent 
[09:12]	DaemonFC	You know, the home security system.
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	calling the police is, at best, just time-consuming
[09:13]	DaemonFC	Oh I'll have plenty of time if I ever have to call them again.
[09:13]	TR News	How to Harden Debian/Ubuntu/Rocky Desktop https://medium.com/@ed-roof-maker/how-to-harden-debian-ubuntu-rocky-desktop-63f81f7ecf78
[09:13]	TR Bot	to Harden Debian/Ubuntu/Rocky Desktop | by Ed Roof Maker | Jan, 2024 | Medium
[09:13]	DaemonFC	It'll be to show them the person who was stupid enough to try to break down my door and yes I do have a FOID Card.
[09:16]	DaemonFC	https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2309495?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article
[09:16]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2309495?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article )
[09:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Gates experimenting on African children again.
[09:16]	DaemonFC	> CONCLUSIONS
[09:16]	DaemonFC	> In this trial conducted in Burkina Faso, we found that administration of azithromycin to infants through the existing health care system did not prevent death. (Funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation; CHAT ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT03676764. opens in new tab.)
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, they do that
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	https://jacobin.com/2020/04/bill-gates-foundation-philanthropy-microsoft
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Bill Gatess Philanthropic Giving Is a Racket
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.business-standard.com/book/bill-gates-as-dubious-philanthropist-123111900806_1.html
[09:17]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.business-standard.com/book/bill-gates-as-dubious-philanthropist-123111900806_1.html )
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique/#2020
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Gates Foundation Critique
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/o/2020/06/25/philanthropic-racism/
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Philanthropic Racism (Clinical Trials/Experimentation on Live Subjects and Ethnic Cleansing as 'Public Good')
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	they still do "population control"
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	a gentler term than "eugenics"
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	who are they to decide?
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	gates is not even smart and never became rich
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	he was born rich
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	and his rich family set him up
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	then he committed more crimes
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	after his dad had TWICE released him from custody 
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	rich allen jones could be a "bus boy":
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	not in ther traditional sense
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	just someone to throw under the buss
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	or to arizona
[09:20]	schestowitz[TR]	https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates 'womanizer,' held nude pool parties: biographer
[09:21]	TR News	How A Steam Bug Once Deleted All Of Someone's User Data | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2024/01/20/how-a-steam-bug-once-deleted-all-of-someones-user-data/
[09:21]	TR Bot	A Steam Bug Once Deleted All Of Someones User Data | Hackaday
[09:21]	TR News	I revived three ancient computers with ChromeOS Flex, and you can too | ZDNET https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-revived-three-ancient-computers-with-chromeos-flex-and-you-can-too/ Source: ZDNet | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.zdnet.com/article/i-revived-three-ancient-computers-with-chromeos-flex-and-you-can-too/
[09:21]	TR Bot	revived three ancient computers with ChromeOS Flex, and you can too | ZDNET
[09:22]	TR News	"Smart" gimmicks with cracks onboard https://cybersecuritynews.com/bluetooth-flaw-hackers-takeover/
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Bluetooth Flaw Let Hackers Takeover of iOS & Android Devices
[09:23]	TR News	"Convicted murderer, filesystem creator writes of regrets to Linux list" -Ars Technica, whose staff got convicted for raping kids http://techrights.org/wiki/Peter_Bright/
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Peter Bright
[09:23]	DaemonFC	Living with his mother. Not even on the sex offender list. What gun charge?
[09:23]	DaemonFC	:P
[09:23]	TR News	"While Linux systems have a reputation for being svelte, you may find that youre suddenly running low on disk space. Why has this happened? The biggest clue, and possibly the biggest culprit, will be found in your Linux system logs." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-disk-space-log-files/
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Running Out of Disk Space on Linux? Check Your Logs!
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: his gun was not loaded
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR]	his unloaded his gun to CP
[09:24]	TR News	"To set a Default ACL entry on a directory, use the command 'setfacl -d -m u:username:rwx dirname'" https://www.howtogeek.com/how-to-use-filesystem-acl-on-linux/
[09:24]	TR Bot	 How to Use Filesystem ACLs (Access Control Lists) on Linux
[09:26]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[09:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[09:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order and Free Software Security Podcast http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Audiocasts_Shows_GNU_World_Order_and_Free_Software_Security_Pod.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Audiocasts_Shows_GNU_World_Order_and_Free_Software_Security_Pod.gmi 
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: GNU World Order and Free Software Security Podcast
[09:31]	TR News	 (NEW):  Music/Video Players: Memento and Nora http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Music_Video_Players_Memento_and_Nora.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Music_Video_Players_Memento_and_Nora.gmi 
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Music/Video Players: Memento and Nora
[09:33]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[09:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[09:44]	TR News	A Tale of Two Nations gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/01/22/tale-of-two-nations.gmi
[09:44]	TR News	Reflection on choosing the battles in a relationship gemini://satch.xyz/log/battles.gmi
[09:45]	TR News	"In hindsight, this was a very bad strategy. It immediately backfired, and she immediately found a new reason to not send me the photo: to avoid letting me have my way and winning the power struggle. Once I realized that this was the issue, I gave up, and agreed to talk to her, but explained why I really cared about her not hiding photos she doesn't like from me." gemini://satch.xyz/log/battles.gmi
[09:46]	TR News	"What the hell happened to laptop docks? We used to have these nice solid docks that we could put our business/workstation laptops into and hear a nice satisfying click or chunk. Once you heard your laptop snap into a dock you knew it was time for business!" gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/canfood/phlog/2024-01-21
[09:47]	TR News	My obsession gemini://obsessivefacts.com/fiction/2024-01-22-my-posession.gmi
[09:48]	TR News	Yesterday my husband pulled off the most incredible, thoughtful, beautiful surprise for my 30th birthday. He created a 35-minute short film documenting my life, including professional interviews of my family, kind testimonies from many of my friends, photos & home videos from my childhood and beyond" gemini://alioop.flounder.online/gemlog/2024-01-21.gmi
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[10:09]	TR News	Techrights [Teaser] [Meme] Doing Speed http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Teaser_Meme_Doing_Speed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Teaser_Meme_Doing_Speed.gmi 
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Teaser] [Meme] Doing Speed
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[11:26]		*schestowitz[TR] back
[11:26]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: did you try it?
[11:34]	TR News	 (NEW):  You Can Now Install Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/You_Can_Now_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_7_on_Ubuntu_Here_s_How.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/You_Can_Now_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_7_on_Ubuntu_Here_s_How.gmi 
[11:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines You Can Now Install Linux Kernel 6.7 on Ubuntu, Heres How
[11:36]	TR News	 (NEW):  MX Linux 23.2 Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.6, PipeWire 1.0, and Debian 12.4 Base http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2_Is_Out_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_PipeWire_1_0_and_Deb.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/MX_Linux_23_2_Is_Out_with_Linux_Kernel_6_6_PipeWire_1_0_and_Deb.gmi 
[11:36]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MX Linux 23.2 Is Out with Linux Kernel 6.6, PipeWire 1.0, and Debian 12.4 Base
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[11:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Linux Mint 21.3 EDGE ISO Released with Linux Kernel 6.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Linux_Mint_21_3_EDGE_ISO_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Linux_Mint_21_3_EDGE_ISO_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_6_5.gmi 
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux Mint 21.3 EDGE ISO Released with Linux Kernel 6.5
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[13:08]	TR News	Techrights This New European Patent Office Report Shows That Liars, Cheaters and Corrupt Officials Rise Up to the Top (Those Are Key Prerequisites in the Age of Big Lies About Patent Quality) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_New_European_Patent_Office_Report_Shows_That_Liars_Cheater.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_New_European_Patent_Office_Report_Shows_That_Liars_Cheat
[13:08]	TR Bot	 Techrights This New European Patent Office Report Shows That Liars, Cheaters and Corrupt Officials Rise Up to the Top (Those Are Key Prerequisites in the Age of Big Lies About Patent Quality)
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[13:28]	TR News	Techrights [Meme] Rules of War http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Rules_of_War.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_Rules_of_War.gmi 
[13:28]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] Rules of War
[13:29]	TR News	"The obvious choice when hosting a personal or professional blog is Amazon AWS. Use one of many static site generators, upload the files to S3, create a CloudFront distribution, and get high speeds and stellar uptime." gemini://duncan.bayne.id.au/gemlog/self-hosting-and-planned-outages/
[13:31]	TR News	"E-Prime is a variant of English where you cant use is, am, are, was, or be. The name E-Prime means "a language derived from English"." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/e-prime
[13:31]	TR News	"The Gnome desktop seems to be removing more and more functionality, apparently in the name of aesthetics and simplicity. Unfortunately, they constantly make choices that are completely WRONG for the way I use computers." gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-why-is-gnome-so-annoyingly-useless.gmi
[13:32]	TR News	"I've always had an interest in mass combat in tabletop games, but previously it's mostly been limited to abstract systems like GURPS Mass Combat, or mass combat in Savage Worlds" gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-sudden-interest-in-wargames.gmi
[13:33]	TR News	"Recently, I noticed someone talking about putting all their emacs backups and autosaves in two directories, no matter where the file they are editing is located." gemini://consp.org/blog/2024/2024-01-21-putting-all-your-emacs-backups-and-autosaves-in-two-directories-has-security-implications.gmi
[13:38]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 22/01/2024: 30th Birthday Surprise and Gnome Deemed Useless http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Gemini_Links_22_01_2024_30th_Birthday_Surprise_and_Gnome_Deemed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Gemini_Links_22_01_2024_30th_Birthday_Surprise_and_Gnome_Deemed.gmi 
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 22/01/2024: 30th Birthday Surprise and Gnome Deemed Useless
[13:45]	TR News	 (NEW):  FreeBSD Developers Explore Rust Integration http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/FreeBSD_Developers_Explore_Rust_Integration.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/FreeBSD_Developers_Explore_Rust_Integration.gmi 
[13:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines FreeBSD Developers Explore Rust Integration
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[14:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux in UK (United Kingdom) and UKRAINE as Per 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/GNU_Linux_in_UK_United_Kingdom_and_UKRAINE_as_Per_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/GNU_Linux_in_UK_United_Kingdom_and_UKRAINE_as_Per_2024.gmi 
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux in UK (United Kingdom) and UKRAINE as Per 2024
[14:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  VirtualBox 7.0.14 Lets You Import and Export VMs with NVMe Storage Controllers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/16/VirtualBox_7_0_14_Lets_You_Import_and_Export_VMs_with_NVMe_Stor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/16/VirtualBox_7_0_14_Lets_You_Import_and_Export_VMs_with_NVMe_Stor.gmi 
[14:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0.14 Lets You Import and Export VMs with NVMe Storage Controllers
[14:21]	TR News	Convert unix timestamp in seconds to readable date in MySQL / MariaDB https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/368
[14:21]	TR Bot	 Convert unix timestamp in seconds to readable date in MySQL / MariaDB, MariaDB Database
[14:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  Fractal 6: Linux Matrix Messaging App Adds Notification Settings and Improvements http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Fractal_6_Linux_Matrix_Messaging_App_Adds_Notification_Settings.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Fractal_6_Linux_Matrix_Messaging_App_Adds_Notification_Settings.gmi 
[14:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fractal 6: Linux Matrix Messaging App Adds Notification Settings and Improvements
[14:41]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Computer and Video Game Archive, Valve, GStreamer, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/18/Games_Computer_and_Video_Game_Archive_Valve_GStreamer_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/18/Games_Computer_and_Video_Game_Archive_Valve_GStreamer_and_More.gmi 
[14:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Computer and Video Game Archive, Valve, GStreamer, and More
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[15:18]	TR News	Techrights Freenode 3 Years After the IRC Network's Collapse http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Freenode_3_Years_After_the_IRC_Network_s_Collapse.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Freenode_3_Years_After_the_IRC_Network_s_Collapse.gmi 
[15:18]	TR Bot	 Techrights Freenode 3 Years After the IRC Network's Collapse
[15:18]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: quoted ^
[15:21]	TR News	"Government Debt in the United States increased to 34001494 USD Million in December" https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt keep calm and wonder what it means when the average taxpayer owes $260,000 in national debt and about $140,000 in household debt. You have a net salary of $400,000, right? RIGHT?
[15:21]	TR Bot	 United States Government Debt
[15:22]	TR News	If the US was a real business, not just RUN LIKE A BUSINESS, it would be deemed insolvent already and investors pull the plug
● Jan 22
[16:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  My PDA at 20 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/My_PDA_at_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/My_PDA_at_20.gmi 
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines My PDA at 20
[16:06]	TR News	 (NEW):  blendOS is the Swiss army knife of Linux distros but it's not for everyone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/blendOS_is_the_Swiss_army_knife_of_Linux_distros_but_it_s_not_f.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/blendOS_is_the_Swiss_army_knife_of_Linux_distros_but_it_s_not_f.gmi 
[16:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines blendOS is the Swiss army knife of Linux distros but it's not for everyone
[16:06]	TR News	 (NEW):  Mozilla Firefox 122 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Mozilla_Firefox_122_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/Mozilla_Firefox_122_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_Here_s_What_s.gmi 
[16:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 122 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New
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[16:14]	TR News	"Just pondering the idea of lean project management concepts in relation to the field of K-12 educational technology (ed-tech) operations in helping to increase operational value, improve work flow, and reduce waste." gemini://mlot.smol.pub/leanedtech
[16:15]	TR News	Robert gemini://njms.ca/gemlog/2024-01-22.gmi
[16:55]	MinceR	https://joeykelly.net/hacks/airlinewrench.jpg
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[17:13]	TR News	 (NEW):  9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 21st, 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_January_21st_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/01/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_January_21st_2024.gmi 
[17:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 21st, 2024
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[17:23]	TR News	Techrights Dead-End Careers at the European Patent Office (EPO), Where Headcount Decreases and Rewards Continue to Decrease (Relative to Inflation) in 2024 http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Dead_End_Careers_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_Where_Headco.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Dead_End_Careers_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_Where_Headco.gmi 
[17:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights Dead-End Careers at the European Patent Office (EPO), Where Headcount Decreases and Rewards Continue to Decrease (Relative to Inflation) in 2024
[17:31]	MinceR	https://nitter.net/solarbrewer/status/1746679864545935582
[17:31]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://nitter.net/solarbrewer/status/1746679864545935582 )
[17:50]	TR News	Techrights [Meme] IAM Says... (Joff on the Toilet, Never Saw a European Patent or EPO Money He Disliked) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_IAM_Says_Joff_on_the_Toilet_Never_Saw_a_European_Patent_or.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/Meme_IAM_Says_Joff_on_the_Toilet_Never_Saw_a_European_Patent_or.gmi 
[17:50]	TR Bot	 Techrights [Meme] IAM Says... (Joff on the Toilet, Never Saw a European Patent or EPO Money He Disliked)
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[18:32]	TR News	Techrights This Can Make Ukraine More Robust to Cracking by Russia and Belarus http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_Can_Make_Ukraine_More_Robust_to_Cracking_by_Russia_and_Bel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/01/22/This_Can_Make_Ukraine_More_Robust_to_Cracking_by_Russia_and_Bel.gmi 
[18:32]	TR Bot	 Techrights This Can Make Ukraine More Robust to Cracking by Russia and Belarus
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[18:44]	DaemonFC	[1/22/24 5:26 am] <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: did you try it?
[18:44]	DaemonFC	Try it? Sorry, my scrollback stopped there.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Got a call from the doctor.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	The X-Ray of my arm isn't so great.
[18:45]	DaemonFC	The good news is it may be treatable. The bad news is that it's going to involve a lot of pain.
[18:48]	DaemonFC	My insurance covers the treatments so there's a very good chance that within a few months I may recover entirely.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: "Wife and kids, household debt. Army green was no safe bet."
[18:49]	DaemonFC	:P
[18:59]	TR News	BT: Third Time Lucky? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/01/22/bt-third-time-lucky/
[18:59]	TR Bot	Blog Archive BT: Third Time Lucky?
● Jan 22
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: p9oem8s'
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: like in the us?
[19:00]	DaemonFC	I did not understand that.
[19:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The BT thing?
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	i mistyped the first time
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	my fingers s hit the wrtong keys
[19:01]	DaemonFC	Standard. They just tell you whatever gets you off the phone so they don't get punished by the evil eye for not "serving enough customers".
[19:02]	DaemonFC	Then when whatever they assured you wouldn't happen happens and you call back, you don't get them and it's a new customer support issue so the clock starts running again.
[19:02]	DaemonFC	It's what you get when Amazon or an ISP or someone has a policy that they have to serve x number of customers per hour.
[19:02]	DaemonFC	They end up getting people back 7-8 times over one problem and spending more money dealing with each problem.
[19:03]	DaemonFC	But Bezos makes several million dollars every minute and is very smart so of course pressuring them to get through customers fast is smart.
[19:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I've worked places where they set the rate by timing how to do a job that was assembled in the worst order. Then when I reassembled the jobs and got them done twice as fast as my rate, I got bonus money, but then the managers started following me around because "We figured out how long it takes to do that job and you're cheating us somehow.".
[19:06]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Then I thought "Well, the bonus pay does stop at 150% of rate. If I finish early and there's no more work at that job, then they make me sweep the floor or something at my base pay. So I'm going to go park my lift and take a nice long shit, savoring every minute on that job code until my rate for the week comes down to 150%. Then they pay me more and I get to mess around in the bathroom for a while and nobody yells at me for hitting 200%
[19:06]	DaemonFC	."
[19:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: At a certain point, you're working so fast that the only reward for more output is more work for less money while the managers insist that you're cheating them."
[19:07]	DaemonFC	So just go play around in the bathroom for a while.
[19:08]	DaemonFC	Then everyone else got mad at me because it got to be a pattern that every month I was at the top of the board for productivity out of over 300 workers.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	And I was racking up these wooden pog tokens that gave me an extra vacation day every month.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	So I banked them all on my employee file and took a 5 week vacation and 4 week sick pay payout when I left.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: So they owed me 9 weeks PTO pay, 6 months unemployment, and 3 months severance.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	That's the only reason I made it through the 2008 recession without losing my home.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	Then at the end of the unemployment, it got extended.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	By a federal emergency declaration.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	I mean there wasn't SHIT out there.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	Nobody was hiring.
[19:11]	DaemonFC	McDonalds wasn't hiring. Nobody was hiring.
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	2008 "recesion"
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	*ss
[19:12]	DaemonFC	It's very distressing to be on a program like that knowing that nobody is hiring and you have months left plus whatever you've saved.
[19:12]	DaemonFC	It is not a hammock. It causes panic attacks, lack of sleep, daytime drinking.
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	after which many families got a lot poorer
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	all this gig economy took off
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	and the rich quadrupled their wealth
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe in 3 years we'll have trillionaires
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	because "HEY HI" something
[19:13]	DaemonFC	Almost certainly we will at some point.
[19:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Walmart just announced new pay structures.
[19:13]	DaemonFC	Store managers get double their former salary.
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
[19:13]	TR Bot	 While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation
[19:13]	DaemonFC	Hourlies get another 50 cents.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	So you get another 50 cents while all the big boys watch their pay double.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	It was already obscene.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	An obscene level of money.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	The old structure could be upwards of half a million a year if you ran a good store.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	And no less than $150,000 if you ran a crummy one.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	This is very typical in America.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	Every year you get to watch a bunch of fat cats line up at the trough while you get "an inflation adjustment if you're lucky".
[19:15]	DaemonFC	They want you exactly where you are now and nowhere else.
[19:16]	DaemonFC	People who make half a million a year to saunter in and ride a desk all day don't need another penny.
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[19:16]	DaemonFC	But that doesn't stop it from turning into a million a year.
[19:19]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Puerto Rico is weird.
[19:19]	DaemonFC	Gas is sold in liters. Road markers are in kilometers. But....speed limits are in miles per hour.
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	mincer downed by orban
[19:19]	DaemonFC	If you're going to do metric, do metric.
[19:20]	DaemonFC	How the hell are you supposed to look at a miles per hour speed limit, then the road is measured in kilometers, and figure out how many kilometers you'll make it in one hour at that speed without doing a conversion?
[19:20]	DaemonFC	I guess you can get used to anything, but that is so dumb.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	My car can switch between kilometers per hour and miles per hour using the same gauge. It's a computer driving the cluster. You put the car in metric and the odometers are in kilometers.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	In Puerto Rico, whichever you select is going to be wrong whether it's the speed limit or the mile markers.
[19:22]	DaemonFC	So you set it to miles I guess, so you won't get a speeding ticket.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	But Star Trek ages badly. Worse than the Eugenics Wars in 1996 is that throwaway line in Enterprise where they put Elon Musk next to the guy who invented the warp drive.
[19:24]	DaemonFC	Then Musk can't even figure out how to build the "hyperloop" tunnels and the company files bankruptcy.
[19:24]	TR News	22nd January 2024 - Rivers of London Book Series gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20240122.txt
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	the main question is,
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	why did this company get any funds int the first place?
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it's crock
[19:25]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I could sit down and handle interviews about tech stuff better than Musk.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	He's flubbing everything he says and it's obvious.
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	he is not so good at tech
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it's all posing 
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	and posturing
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	;ole looking a twitterrr hardwar
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	he is not a hardwware person
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	too busy impregnating women and then going to court to do custody battles
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	to actually keep abreast of hardware tech
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	and doing "photoshoots" with a sink in Twitter HQ
[19:27]	DaemonFC	One of his kids is a tranny.
[19:27]	DaemonFC	One of them who isn't disowned him and said they don't even want the inheritance.
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	"lol melon, U SO FUNNT!!":
[19:27]	DaemonFC	And so he makes more and more because hey, the world works on averages, right?
[19:27]	DaemonFC	If you can get one good one out of the batch, it makes up for the tranny and the one that said I hate you.
[19:28]	DaemonFC	Anyway, bbiab.
[19:28]	schestowitz[TR]	mincer awol
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	https://locusmag.com/2023/12/commentary-cory-doctorow-what-kind-of-bubble-is-ai/
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Cory Doctorow: What Kind of Bubble is AI? Locus Online
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	"Of course AI is a bubble. It has all the hallmarks of a classic tech bubble. Pick up a rental car at SFO and drive in either direction on the 101 north to San Francisco, south to Palo Alto and every single billboard is advertising some kind of AI company. Every business plan has the word AI in it, even if the business itself has no AI in it. Even as two major, terrifying wars rage around the world, every newspaper ha
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	s an above-the-fold AI headline and half the stories on Google News as I write this are about AI. Ive had to make rule for my events: The first person to mention AI owes everyone else a drink."
[19:34]	TR News	The TikTokers Ousting Employers By Secretly Recording Layoffs https://tech.co/news/tiktokers-ousting-employers-recording-layoffs
[19:34]	TR Bot	 The TikTokers Ousting Employers By Secretly Recording Layoffs
[19:34]	TR News	[EXCLUSIVE] Big Tech layoffs loom in Korea as furious workers revolt https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-01-22/business/industry/EXCLUSIVE-Big-Tech-layoffs-loom-in-Korea-as-furious-workers-revolt/1963248
[19:34]	TR Bot	 [EXCLUSIVE] Big Tech layoffs loom in Korea as furious workers revolt
[19:35]	TR News	journalism
[19:35]	TR News	Lawmakers must ensure that preserving California journalism doesnt enable clickbait https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/01/preserving-california-journalism-bill-clickbait/
[19:35]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Preserving California journalism shouldn't enable clickbait
[19:37]	TR News	Spotify Struggles To Make A Profit, Why? https://www.channelnews.com.au/spotify-struggles-gaining-profit-despite-leading-in-steaming/
[19:37]	TR Bot	 Spotify Struggles To Make A Profit, Why? channelnews
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[22:14]	admfubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1997422
[22:14]	TR Bot	 HP CEO evokes James Bond-style hack via ink cartridges | Ars Technica
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[22:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: My therapist has the flu now.
[22:48]	DaemonFC	Everyone in her house has the flu.
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Everyone I know is either sick with the flu or COVID.
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Obviously the very durable immunity from the COVID shots, which may have even caused the calcification of the tendons in my arm, helped a lot.
[22:50]	DaemonFC	They figure that they can dissolve the calcium buildup with ultrasonic therapy.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Everyone who got the clot shot is just supposed to ignore the bizarre and horrible things that happened to their health shortly thereafter.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	Needles in the eyes. Flesh to Stone.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	:P
[22:53]	DaemonFC	Keep getting more of them.
[22:53]	DaemonFC	Fuck around and find out.
[22:54]	DaemonFC	"Biden admits the border isn't secure."
[22:54]	DaemonFC	The only people even trying to stem the tide of trash here to crime against the Citizens and steal and file for welfare even though they've never paid any taxes is Governor Abbott of Texas.
[22:55]	DaemonFC	And Biden got the ruling that says he can rip out the fences and razor wire so he can finish flooding our once great country with criminals and scum before he gets voted out.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	I doubt that Biden will be able to easily rip out the border wall that Texas put up.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	It is on State-owned land and it's not in front of a river where the Administration can blame Texas that some idiot decided to drown in a river with her two children trying to break into a country where she didn't belong.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	(And was already dead and being pulled out of said river by Mexico before Border Patrol even asked to enter.)
[22:58]	DaemonFC	It would be much worse if the river wasn't there because then there would be no obstacle at all to slow them down in some parts.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/tech/someone-something-snooping-your-computer
[22:59]	TR Bot	 Is someone (or something) snooping on your computer? | Fox News
[22:59]	DaemonFC	LOL
[22:59]	DaemonFC	Yes, Microsoft is snooping on your computer, and Google and Apple.
● Jan 22
[23:00]	DaemonFC	"One telltale sign of a malware infection? Processes start on their own. Dont write it off if an app launches itself out of the blue."
[23:00]	DaemonFC	Yeah, things like fstrim.timer are super suspicious, you know.
[23:00]	DaemonFC	Processes that start on their own are always a bad sign.
[23:00]	DaemonFC	;)
[23:00]	DaemonFC	"Say you only have a couple of apps that open when you start up your computer. If a different window briefly appears before flicking out of existence, it could be a spyware program loading. Theyre designed to disappear."
[23:01]	DaemonFC	Only the worst ones would even flicker in and close.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	Most of them have no GUI at all.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	> The Startup panel displays the apps installed on your machine. If Windows has measured the impact of that app on your PC, you will see a rating next to it. Options include No impact, Low impact, Medium impact, and High impact.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	> An app with a high impact can slow down your startup time. Go through the list and determine which apps you dont need immediately after startup. Toggle each slider next to the app to turn it on or off.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	----
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Yeah, just kill everything with High Impact without knowing what it is. What's the worst that could happen?
[23:02]	DaemonFC	> A person dressed as an internet hacker is seen with binary code displayed on a laptop screen in this illustration photo taken in Krakow, Poland on August 17, 2021. 
[23:02]	DaemonFC	> (Photo by Jakub Porzycki/NurPhoto via Getty Images)
[23:02]	DaemonFC	----
[23:02]	DaemonFC	I'm starting to wonder about this guy with the hands in Poland.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	He's definitely up to something.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[23:03]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/health/norovirus-alert-fda-warns-contaminated-raw-oysters-mexico
[23:03]	TR Bot	 Norovirus alert: FDA warns of contaminated raw oysters from Mexico | Fox News
[23:04]	DaemonFC	There was an episode of Mr. Bean where he ate raw oysters at an inn and got very sick.
[23:04]	DaemonFC	Why would anyone eat those?
[23:04]	DaemonFC	He ended up spending his entire vacation getting stuck sick in bed and then whenever he tried going up and down the stairs, some old person with a cane would get in front of him.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	So he ended up going over the side of the railing, walking past them and going back over just to get stuck behind another one.
[23:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Until I can get in to see the surgeon about the Flesh to Stone, I'm having Mandy rub that shoulder.
[23:10]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/health-2
[23:10]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Health
[23:16]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Mandy is using the back massager on the cat.
[23:16]	DaemonFC	I mean, she's not complaining.
[23:16]	MinceR	:)
[23:17]	DaemonFC	Good food, vet visits, plenty of heat, a giant bag of foam to sleep on, massages.
[23:19]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I may need to turn in early. I had a parade of people waking me up including someone from Amazon buzzing the door.
[23:19]	MinceR	ok
[23:20]	DaemonFC	For some reason, everyone who is exempt from Do Not Disturb had a reason to call me.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/long-keep-tax-documents-155808428.html
[23:21]	TR Bot	 How Long Do I Have to Keep Tax Documents?
[23:22]	DaemonFC	Keeping them for a minimum of three years after the tax filing deadline (or your extension deadline if you got one) is wise.
[23:22]	DaemonFC	The IRS can go back six years if you substantially underreported or did something truly outrageous, but normally they have three.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Even if you're sure the return is correct, it's best to minimize the time they have to open an audit for that year. So filing by the April deadline and not asking for an extension if you don't need one is wise.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Not many people know it, but there's really no penalty if you need a few more days and don't request an extension, as long as they owe you a refund when you file.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	In that case, it would be better to just miss the deadline and then file and claim your refund.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	They have three years from the date you file or the deadline, whichever is later.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	So if you had requested an extension they'd have 3.5 years to audit but if you miss an April 18th deadline and file on May 1st and get a refund, there are no penalties for missing the deadline and they only have until May 1st three years later to audit it.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	Because your deadline, which you missed (with no penalty) was in April, not October.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	If you'd asked for the extension then even if you filed May 1st, they could audit until October 18th three calendar years later.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	So essentially all you do if you extend and get a refund, is give them additional months to pull that return.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	It benefits the taxpayer, so the IRS doesn't want people to know that.
[23:28]	admfubar	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/01/ai-bots-on-x-twitter.html
[23:28]	TR Bot	Bots on X (Twitter) - Schneier on Security
[23:28]	DaemonFC	The government never wants you to know anything that benefits you.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[23:28]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:29]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ftc-turbotax-maker-deceived-customers-222304810.html
[23:29]	TR Bot	 FTC: TurboTax maker deceived customers with free services
[23:30]	DaemonFC	The IRS is developing its own free filing service, finally.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	The tax preparation companies spent years trying to stop this.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Because they upsell and upsell and many people spend over a hundred dollars even if they technically qualify for a free file program
[23:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The local news says they bagged a pedo that Google reported for uploading CP to his Drive account.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	It's good that they got him but even without knowing they do that, you should suspect that they would.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	I can't imagine why anyone would upload anything even possibly incriminating to a Google Drive, much less something that could send them to prison forever.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	It's not bad that they're going to seriously hurt this sick fuck.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	But what it shows is that nothing you upload to a "Cloud" storage drive is really private.
[23:36]	admfubar	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/20/0639217&from=rss
[23:36]	TR Bot	 Sports Illustrateds Entire Staff Told They are Getting Laid Off - SoylentNews
[23:36]	DaemonFC	They all scan, and if they scan for this, they can scan for anything else.
[23:37]	admfubar	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/19/1053225&from=rss
[23:37]	TR Bot	 Supply Chain Attack Via MS GitHub's Runner Images - SoylentNews
[23:39]	admfubar	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/20/0851253&from=rss
[23:39]	TR Bot	 What Happened to the US Machine Tool Industry? - SoylentNews
[23:40]	DaemonFC	I get Stallman saying families in the US are undesirable. I really do. You know, it is garbage in garbage out. When there's a lot of stress and frustration, it ends up coming out directed at your own family even when they're not the ones to blame.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	The government here isn't like the ones in Western Europe that do more to take that sort of pressure off of families.
[23:41]	admfubar	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/01/19/0519200&from=rss
[23:41]	TR Bot	 New Vapor Coating Technique Lets You Run A Computer Under Water - SoylentNews
[23:41]	DaemonFC	Stallman was wrong that there was "a lot more Socialism" in Europe in the 80s and 90s.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	The US had it too, but it generally came down from employers that had a "Japanese model", not a European one.
[23:42]	DaemonFC	You know, that is in Europe taxes are very high and a lot of the Socialism comes from the government.
[23:43]	DaemonFC	In the Japanese model, the corporate culture is they take care of their workers and they become company men and the company has the ideal that when the employee has a problem the company has a problem, but where it all went wrong in America is when the "What to do about the problem?" answer changed from "Help the employee by giving them resources." to "Kick them to the curb and immediately hire someone else." or "Just fire everyone and shift production 
[23:43]	DaemonFC	to a third world hell hole where there are no labor or environmental laws."
[23:43]	DaemonFC	So by the early 2000s, the US model had almost completely shifted from the former to the latter.
[23:44]	DaemonFC	And now they don't even care if their employees are eating or can buy diapers for their children. They double the manager's salary, like Walmart is doing on February 1st, and train them to point everyone to the nearest welfare office.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	In every State in the country, I think, where there are a lot of Walmarts, Walmart is the number one employer by number of employees on Medicaid.
[23:45]	DaemonFC	And Walmart is a huge employer. They have like 2.5 million employees I think.
[23:46]	DaemonFC	So when that's your model for the rest of the country and not something like RCA where they paid for college tuition, healthcare, a pension, and so on and so forth....
[23:46]	DaemonFC	I don't know how things are where Stallman lives. I know that big cities that are expensive to live in tend to try to keep Walmart out.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	But that doesn't solve the problem. It just pushes it somewhere where they don't have to look at it.
[23:47]	DaemonFC	Walmart tried to figure out how to operate in Chicago and then gave up because no matter what their sales were they lost three times as much to crime and often had gang shootings going on in their stores.
[23:48]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/eff_privacy_atlas/
[23:48]	TR Bot	 EFF adds surveillance hub so Americans can check spying The Register
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Chicago is tricky because between the cost of living, the taxes, the fact that the politicians don't care if there are jobs, and the crime rate, they just can't run a business in that environment.
[23:53]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/rust_project_burnout/
[23:53]	TR Bot	 Rust is the latest open source project to face burnout The Register
[23:53]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/22/haier_plugin_takedown/
[23:53]	TR Bot	 Haier Europe sends takedowns over open source plugins The Register
[23:56]	admfubar	https://xkcd.com/2884/
[23:56]	TR Bot	Log Alignment
[23:56]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2024/01/22/1226127366/tiktok-cuts-jobs-tech-layoffs-china
[23:56]	TR Bot	 TikTok cuts jobs as tech layoffs continue to mount : NPR
[23:56]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:57]	DaemonFC	"So far in 2024, there have been more than 10,000 tech jobs shed, according to tech job tracker site layoffs.fyi. It follows 2023, which was a punishing year for the tech industry, seeing the elimination of some 260,000 jobs in the tech sector, the highest reduction in tech jobs since mass terminations fueled by the pandemic."
[23:58]	DaemonFC	Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!
[23:58]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^