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| psydread | so I just downloaded the OpenRA sources and it turns out this stuff is written in C# and requires Mono | May 22 08:34 |
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| psydread | which I am not going to bother with | May 22 08:34 |
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| schestowitz | lol, I didn't know openra was this bad | May 22 08:47 |
| schestowitz | tbh, I never cared much for it as I was never a fan of c&r, ra, ts etc. | May 22 08:47 |
| schestowitz | I was more into warcraft, dune, and other franchises back then | May 22 08:47 |
| schestowitz | doom obviously :-) | May 22 08:48 |
| schestowitz | quake sucked | May 22 08:48 |
| schestowitz | Wrestled a little with Nagstamon today, due to a problem I never saw before. Settings which decided to persist because another open instance of Nagstamon got 'zombified' a process... | May 22 08:50 |
| psydread | I played Starcraft back in the day and I think I got some Doom games as welll | May 22 08:54 |
| psydread | but I mostly stopped playing closed source games after the early 2000s | May 22 08:54 |
| psydread | I was mainly interested in some of the Id games because they would natively run on Linux | May 22 08:55 |
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| Ariadne | Alpine plans to do an online conference (originally a physical one, but covid-19) this year | May 22 15:12 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What topics are to be covered? | May 22 15:14 |
| Ariadne | pretty much anything related to alpine | May 22 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: will you be on? | May 22 15:23 |
| Ariadne | probably | May 22 15:23 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20030417 | May 22 17:35 |
| oiaohm | https://www.gnome.org/news/2020/05/patent-case-against-gnome-resolved/ << The way this is reading the troll kind of went ouch. | May 22 17:37 |
| oiaohm | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/gnseuh/patent_case_against_gnome_resolved/frbvedd/?context=3 Particularly if the comment here is 100 percent true. | May 22 17:39 |
| oiaohm | Is very broad settlement terms. | May 22 17:39 |
| MinceR | good for ibm | May 22 17:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | oiaohm: It was going to be a tougher hill to climb than they thought. | May 22 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their goal was to extract a concession from GNOME and then use that to try to frighten others. | May 22 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Shotwell indeed infringed on the patent, then so do many programs from Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, and others. | May 22 18:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Even Windows has basic photo management software that can load JPEGs from some storage device and catalog them. | May 22 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing particularly clever about any claim in the Rothschild patent. | May 22 18:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If there was, Windows wouldn't include software that did it. It took them almost 15 years to have built in support for ZIP files in a widely used version of Windows.. | May 22 18:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It took them 16 years to support FLAC. | May 22 18:09 |
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| psydread | I also have a idea or a theory about Windows having been ported to ARM | May 22 18:10 |
| psydread | an idea* | May 22 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They supported MP3 out of the box in Windows Me and XP, but it wasn't until XP SP1 that there was a decoder that didn't have the crash bug in certain cases if you used the bit reservoir in a totally legal manner. | May 22 18:11 |
| oiaohm | Really the facts behind windows on arm is messy. | May 22 18:11 |
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| psydread | and I think it's less about ARM, but more about MS not being able to see a potential market of millions of devices that doesn't run Windows | May 22 18:11 |
| oiaohm | psydread: you are remember the deal between qualcomm and Microsoft in the attempt to save Windows mobile OS. | May 22 18:11 |
| psydread | so they had to have something to offer there as well | May 22 18:11 |
| oiaohm | Of course remember qualcomm had Microsoft over barrel there. | May 22 18:11 |
| oiaohm | yes qualcomm wants market share outside mobile. | May 22 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They still don't comply with their own OOXML standard 13 years later. | May 22 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | VC-1 ended up infringing on all sorts of patents. | May 22 18:12 |
| psydread | oiaohm, I do remember, what I don't understand is them taking that partnership into laptop territory | May 22 18:13 |
| psydread | very few people want an overpriced and less compatible ARM laptop that doesn't run their existing applications well or not at all | May 22 18:13 |
| MinceR | ARM could offer much better battery life | May 22 18:14 |
| psydread | I know all about that, but insisting on shipping it with Windows only shackles the devices to MS | May 22 18:14 |
| MinceR | then again, if they wanted good battery life, they wouldn't waste power on Backdoors | May 22 18:14 |
| oiaohm | psydread: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2018/10/16/pushing-boundaries-wireless-new-60-ghz-wi-fi-chipset-portfolio-video qualcomm has very big dreams. | May 22 18:15 |
| psydread | and they have sold how many? maybe 500,000? | May 22 18:15 |
| oiaohm | https://www.forbes.com/sites/tiriasresearch/2017/06/16/intel-threatens-microsoft-and-qualcomm-over-x86-emulation/ << including stuff that intel is threating patents over to prevent qualcomm doing. | May 22 18:16 |
| psydread | it's an embarrassment of WSL-ly proportions | May 22 18:16 |
| oiaohm | qualcomm cannot buy x86 license but if they can emulate and get into the x86 market that way they will be happy. | May 22 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm waiting for Facebook to explain why it wants me to follow Bill Gates. | May 22 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only record Microsoft software sets is likely to be number of security vulnerabilities. | May 22 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their answer, of course, is to say that Linux has more by declaring everything that is conceivably available to be installed by the user, including dozens of web browsers and several office suites as "Linux". | May 22 18:17 |
| oiaohm | I really don't see Microsoft plans on arm as Microsoft ideas any more. | May 22 18:17 |
| psydread | oiaohm, I read the articles and saw the videos at the time, but it all seems to have fizzled out | May 22 18:17 |
| psydread | yes, that makes sense | May 22 18:17 |
| oiaohm | Qualcomm contract with Microsoft was 20 years. | May 22 18:18 |
| oiaohm | As I said Microsoft was over the barrel in 2006. | May 22 18:18 |
| oiaohm | And they are still over Qualcomm barrel. | May 22 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mainly it's patents that are keeping Qualcomm going. | May 22 18:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used to use their Eudora email client. | May 22 18:20 |
| oiaohm | Really DaemonFC[m] you should look at Android phones quite a few have Qualcomm chips. | May 22 18:20 |
| oiaohm | as the main cpu. | May 22 18:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but arm is just an isa that you can license. | May 22 18:22 |
| psydread | I remember Qualcomm mainly from Eudora | May 22 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's some cheapo Android tablets and phones that use ARM cores that are pushing 10 years old. | May 22 18:22 |
| psydread | and never knew or realised that they were a semiconductor company | May 22 18:22 |
| psydread | I have two older Android phones with Qualcomm chips | May 22 18:23 |
| psydread | one has LineageOS on it and the other one can't be unlocked | May 22 18:23 |
| oiaohm | psydread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants Qualcomm is a semiconductor design company. They have no fabs to their name. | May 22 18:25 |
| psydread | oiaohm, maybe I should have said that, because very few semiconductor design companies have fabs anymore and it doesn't really make sense anymore either | May 22 18:27 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/05/01/e6012d79dbb975f9.mp4 | May 22 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | [17:46] <MinceR> good for ibm | May 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | IBM did not want to challenge swpats | May 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | they and Microsoft (with OIN) went for this approach | May 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | zoobab and I wrote about it | May 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | for them it's just software patents are good, but OSS... we'll find a way for it... as long as we control it like GNOME | May 22 18:44 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | EFF says they want web browsers to deprecate HTTP entirely. | May 22 18:45 |
| oiaohm | IBM wants their cake and eat it too with patents. | May 22 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, let's make it so to run a website, you have to beg a CA. | May 22 18:46 |
| oiaohm | Really old school HTTP has no protection against in middle modifications | May 22 18:46 |
| oiaohm | I remember some of the old ISP that exploited that to inject advertising. | May 22 18:47 |
| MinceR | we could have HTTPS with Web of Trust | May 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Same EFF that gave Microsofter an award and takes Google money | May 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | and where to get certs? | May 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | The CA that issues millions of bad ones? | May 22 18:49 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ | May 22 18:49 |
| MinceR | either self-signed or non-X.509 | May 22 18:50 |
| oiaohm | Really we have never had a good CA system. | May 22 18:50 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audacity Fixes the Major Bug and Releases a Fresh Version 2.4.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137920 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ccc0540f-f52b-4275-a81b-e0217e4fc3a9] | May 22 19:23 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137922 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba321f77-0bd3-48a4-9740-ff4da0ee5485] | May 22 19:38 | |
| *Now talking on #techrights | May 22 19:58 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | May 22 19:58 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | May 22 19:58 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Megafon in Russia recently *started* MITM'ing ads. | May 22 19:58 |
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| XRevan86 | It's the most abysmal ISP / mobile network carrier, so figures. | May 22 19:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | OpenBSD disabled DNS over HTTPS because of privacy concerns involving Cloudflare. | May 22 22:53 |
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