●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 ●●
● Jun 22
[00:00]	gorq	whats the difference?
[00:02]	MinceR	neither
[00:02]	MinceR	it works normally, like most shells
[00:12]	gorq	what should i use zswap or zram?
[00:12]	gorq	shouldn't they be the merged?
[00:13]	gorq	ZSH must be sh compressed?
[00:13]	gorq	has most rhings with Z are about compression
[00:14]	MinceR	\_()_/
[00:14]	MinceR	pretty sure zsh has nothing to do with zswap and zram
[00:14]	gorq	yes
[00:14]	MinceR	iirc the author named zsh after someone's username they thought would be a good name for a shell
[00:15]	gorq	the original shell is sh
[00:16]	MinceR	that is known
[00:17]	gorq	sh is just short fro shell
[00:17]	MinceR	water is wet
[00:18]	gorq	so ZSH must be ziped shell
[00:19]	gorq	BASH must be bourne again shell
[00:33]	MinceR	(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/AMVUFXc.mp4
[00:34]	gorq	why?
[00:34]	gorq	you got cat script?
[00:36]	gorq	Elon Musk's child tells court she no longer wants 'to be related' to her dad
[00:37]	gorq	she must buy an apple phone then
[00:37]	gorq	even so it might not workout
[00:38]	gorq	https://imgur.com/gallery/TNUxNAQ
[00:38]	TR Bot	perfect travel companion - Album on Imgur
[00:40]	gorq	https://imgur.com/gallery/4n9FCr8 - MinceR in the shower after a night out
[00:40]	TR Bot	in the shower - Album on Imgur
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[00:43]	MinceR	no cat script
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[00:54]	matey	<MinceR>   the war crimes are only relevant if someone with the power is actually willing to invade orcland, cripple their warmaking capabilities, arrest putler and all UR members and punish them for their crimes  <MinceR>   it's pointless to talk about war crimes much if the people who could do something about it are unwilling to do so
[00:54]	matey	god no
[00:54]	matey	its vital to the historical record
[00:54]	matey	even on the offchance that someone learns from it
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[00:55]	matey	i mean its too late to do anything for stallman or the fsf too (still less than warcrimes)
[00:55]	matey	but the story at least has to be told
[00:56]	matey	even challenged and with the more bullshit parts commented on for the sake of accuracy and context
[00:56]	matey	for smaller things than warcrimes, so certainly for warcrimes as well
[00:56]	matey	sometimes people do learn from them
[00:56]	matey	if not right away, then later
[00:57]	matey	someitmes the people doing the fighting you think should happen are the ones who learn from them
[00:57]	matey	regardless of the people who should be fighting now
[00:57]	matey	vietnam could have dragged on for more years, more deaths
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[00:57]	matey	more torture, more ecological destruction
[00:58]	matey	but people reporting the war crimes helped it end 
[00:58]	matey	not as quickly as it should have, but more quickly than it might have
[00:58]	matey	so yeah, theres a purpose to talking about war crimes
[00:58]	matey	it would be nice if there were more purpose, but theres definitely purpose
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[00:59]	matey	<XRevan86>   The problem is that a lot of the war crimes are more-of-the-same, so one stops paying attention. <- its rare that people even care this much
● Jun 22
[01:00]	matey	when george and tony did similar to iraq, people cared even less
[01:00]	matey	gene simmons of kiss was ashamed of people who didnt think it was GREAT SHIT
[01:00]	matey	he wouldnt be the first israeli to support war crimes (well he wouldnt)
[01:01]	matey	whoo yeah! palestinian casualties, WOOOOOO!
[01:01]	matey	GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!
[01:01]	MinceR	22 015442 < matey> its vital to the historical record
[01:01]	MinceR	22 015455 < matey> even on the offchance that someone learns from it
[01:01]	MinceR	i doubt there will be a historical record if vladolf gets what he wants
[01:02]	MinceR	and one thing that makes humans humans is that most of them don't learn from anything, ever
[01:02]	matey	i doubt he will get what he wants
[01:02]	matey	unless he wants to die slowly and painfully, poisoned by his own people
[01:02]	matey	im not saying theres no risk
[01:02]	matey	hell, theres always a risk
[01:03]	matey	they may already be poisoning him gradually
[01:03]	MinceR	if humans learned, we wouldn't see a global resurgence of fascism now
[01:03]	matey	"oh hes looking very ill"
[01:04]	matey	at least a few people probably want him to do what hes doing
[01:04]	matey	and the others? who knows
[01:04]	matey	either way hes gone off the rails at the expense of russia
[01:05]	matey	and russians have a finite tolerance for this sort of failure, even at the top
[01:06]	matey	people who say this is stalin all over again, who i dont necessarily disagree with
[01:06]	matey	should read about how that ended
[01:07]	matey	<schestowitz_TR> paying attention to toilet paper-on-shoe joke won't help <- i dont agree with this either
[01:07]	matey	stupid jokes have played a role (i mean i doubt putting comedians on the front lines would be useful, nor would i pretend they were as important) in the darkest chapters of human history
[01:08]	matey	some are cleverly stupid, others are just fucking dumb
[01:08]	matey	after 9/11 there was this serious discussion about when jokes could be told again
[01:09]	matey	like it was too serious for comedians to do any sort of comedy at all
[01:09]	matey	fortunately the onion was still awesome back then
[01:09]	matey	they were sort of on the front lines of comedy at that time, the first to be willing to laugh at something
[01:09]	matey	imagine if we had decided "okay, this is too bad, no more jokes anymore"
[01:10]	matey	presumably in wwii noel coward sang "dont lets be beastly to the germans"
[01:10]	matey	i love that song
[01:10]	matey	even if its propaganda
[01:10]	matey	which of course it is
[01:11]	matey	<schestowitz_TR>   I reckon many US weapons nowadays have microchips in them that are imported from china <- that may be 
[01:11]	matey	but the dod CAN fab their own
[01:12]	matey	maybe theyre willing to see how chinese chips fare in a place like iraq
[01:12]	matey	but if they were at war with china, maybe they wouldnt be so trusting
[01:12]	matey	i dont know how that shit works
[01:12]	matey	im sure war with china is never at the top of the list of what to do next
[01:13]	matey	i think most army guns work without microchips but i dont pretend to know much about that either
[01:13]	matey	i figured the anti-icbm arrays dont rely on chinese fabs, but thats just a guess
[01:15]	gorq	microchips made of paper that self destruct if they ear russian speech
[01:15]	MinceR	stalin managed to stay in power and commit crimes against humanity for 31 years
[01:15]	matey	microchips made of paper that self destruct if they ear russian speech <- i mean ukraine is blowing up russian tanks with weapons they got from the usa
[01:15]	gorq	because he didnt managed to stay alive longer
[01:16]	matey	so im not sure what that means
[01:16]	matey	maybe russians should talk to them
[01:16]	gorq	it mean not to let the technology to fall in the wrong hands
[01:16]	matey	oh
[01:17]	matey	its sort of win win for the weapons contractors
[01:17]	matey	they dont get tired of spending a percentage of their profits on new research and development
[01:18]	gorq	weapons contractors would hate papper chips couse they so cheep
[01:18]	matey	as long as the world is insane, they keep going to the bank
[01:18]	gorq	more bang for the bank
[01:19]	matey	the drone missiles have sony cameras <- japan is an ally iirc
[01:19]	MinceR	it is
[01:19]	matey	fuck knows how/why, but nonetheless
[01:19]	matey	better the devil you know?
[01:19]	matey	if you cant beat em, join em?
[01:19]	gorq	samsung cams are better
[01:20]	gorq	at least on phones
[01:20]	matey	i mean thats great if you want the missiles to do instagram filters on their targets
[01:21]	matey	<psydroid2>   the worst part is that these AMD chips aren't that much faster than ARM chips with a fraction of the power consumption <- and the way the chipsets work these days, the amd chips probably arent much better supported than arm either
[01:21]	matey	though thats probably a slight exaggeration (getting slighter)
[01:22]	gorq	ARMy chips
[01:24]	matey	<MinceR> people in russia can download MICROS~1's and ibm's other OS, fedora, instead <- maybe sanctions will help microsoft get rid of some of their dead weight
[01:24]	matey	if that doesnt, maybe their installation policies will
[01:25]	MinceR	i doubt MICROS~1 sold a significant proportion of their licenses in orcland
[01:25]	MinceR	in general, not doing a lot of trade beyond energy and possibly food with just about anyone is one of orcland's big issues, afaict
[01:25]	MinceR	or rather, not exporting a lot
[01:26]	MinceR	but also not importing so much that anyone would particularly care
[01:26]	matey	i suppose you dont need russias new stalinist bullshit when you already make your own
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[01:26]	MinceR	people were spitballing ideas like that orcland could trade with red china instead of europe, but red china couldn't sustain itself with trading only with orcland but not with the west
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[01:27]	matey	maybe the russian elite found someone they like better than putin
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[01:27]	matey	so theyre like "here, destroy yourself, have fun"
[01:28]	matey	im not making them the good guys, but they cant ALL be as stupid as he is
[01:28]	MinceR	the orcish elite is being hit hard, afaik
[01:28]	MinceR	many of them lost access to a lot of assets they held in the west
[01:28]	matey	well a little karma is good for the world
[01:28]	matey	not to make light of the terrible price
[01:29]	matey	russia hates going too many decades without a collapse
[01:29]	MinceR	:>
[01:29]	matey	im being cynical, i actually like russians
[01:29]	matey	but you dont have to tell them that being russian fucking sucks
[01:30]	matey	they kind of wrote the book on it
[01:31]	matey	i actually like russians <- not enough to hope they feel welcome in ukraine right now
[01:31]	matey	im serious about putting signs up showing the way out
[01:31]	matey	moscow 1500 mi kate said
[01:31]	MinceR	i think they did something of the sort already
[01:32]	matey	i think they did something of the sort already <- love it
[01:32]	matey	those could come in useful later
[01:32]	MinceR	this one doesn't seem too informative though >> https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/odessa-ukraine-road-sign-credit-twitter-shaun-walker.jpg
[01:33]	MinceR	"to dick", "again to dick", "to russia to dick"
[01:33]	matey	thats why you put locals in charge
[01:33]	matey	they know the culture
[01:34]	matey	things are so sterile when everything comes from the top
[01:35]	matey	https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet:Code_of_Conduct
[01:35]	TR Bot	 LibrePlanet:About/Code of Conduct - LibrePlanet
[01:36]	matey	"to dick", "again to dick", "to russia to dick" <- violates the code of conduct!
[01:36]	matey	and also, who the fuck cares?
[01:36]	MinceR	:>
[01:36]	matey	 [ insert george carlin routine ]
[01:37]	matey	i wouldnt have even thought of incorporating "dick" into signs taunting invading troops
[01:37]	matey	even if it seems obvious in hindsight
[01:38]	MinceR	"to dick" is a commonly used expletive phrase in russian and ukrainian, afaik
[01:38]	MinceR	apparently as common as "fuck" in english
[01:38]	matey	again, swhy you put locals in charge
[01:39]	matey	the word "fuck" as a word for everything is pretty hilarious imo from a linguistic standpoint
[01:40]	matey	but using "dick" that way is novel to my non-russian sensibilities, so i love that too
[01:41]	matey	i should say non-slavic
[01:41]	MinceR	:>
[01:42]	matey	LibrePlanet: Participate (To Dick)
[01:43]	matey	theres an entire decision tree of jokes that can be made there
[01:43]	matey	but none of them lead to victory so 
[01:44]	matey	and the lp people are too humourless to make them in public
[01:46]	MinceR	:>
[01:46]	MinceR	actually i could have been more specific, it's "onto dick"
[01:46]	MinceR	(as opposed to "into dick")
[01:46]	matey	i interpreted "to" as either "towards" or "for the purpose of"
[01:47]	matey	which is actually pretty funny
[01:47]	matey	but "onto" works too, it actually seems much less foreign
[01:47]	MinceR	:>
[01:48]	matey	theres a weird sketch dutch west did called "old men and leftovers"
[01:48]	matey	about these two old men that do voiceovers
[01:49]	matey	and theyre having a pissing match about all the celebrities they supposedly fucked
[01:49]	matey	one implying that he did one of the baldwins, "so stephen could be mine"
[01:49]	matey	they keep saying "with his dick?" as a sort of punchline
[01:50]	matey	without the invasion of the ukraine, i cant imagine how that could ever be even remotely relevant here
[01:50]	matey	also i dont know how it became "the" ukraine
[01:50]	matey	maybe its infamous
[01:50]	matey	the canada
[01:50]	matey	the mexico, the spain
[01:51]	matey	dutch west is probably best known for a dance video they did to "september" by earth wind and fire
[01:52]	gorq	the maldives
[01:52]	matey	they also did a sketch where the son is thinking of enlisting in the army for college money, so the mom decides to mess with his head until he relents
[01:53]	matey	ill leave the details out of that one, but clever idea
[01:53]	gorq	i8 enlisted the us army to play a video game
[01:54]	matey	yeah thats a thing now i guess
[01:54]	gorq	even thou im not a citizen
[01:54]	gorq	i was a virtual recruit
[01:55]	matey	i mean ive known people from malaysia who were working so closely with american armed forces that ti wouldnt have mattered
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● Jun 22
[02:02]	MinceR	22 024955 < matey> they keep saying "with his dick?" as a sort of punchline
[02:02]	MinceR	reminds me of appending "in bed" to random phrases
[02:02]	matey	yes
[02:03]	matey	the fortune cookie trick
[02:03]	MinceR	the netherlands
[02:03]	matey	"you will live in interesting times"
[02:03]	matey	"in bed"
[02:03]	MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthography
[02:03]	TR Bot	 Ukraine - Wikipedia
[02:06]	matey	one of the two guys in the video went on to do a series spoofing honey boo boo with the (wonderful) comedienne who played the mom in the army enlistment video
[02:06]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Myo_5KYx_YI
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Precious Plum for President! | See Plum Run [Full Episode] - Invidious
[02:16]	TR News	Manipulating the display backlight from the shell gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-06-21_bashbrightness.gmi
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[02:17]	AdmFubar	https://blog.aquasec.com/github-app-tokens
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[02:17]	matey	<MinceR> made from Linux (controlled by the Linux-Destroying Foundation, owned by corporations like MICROS~1 and ibm), systemd (controlled by ibm and based on MICROS~1 design principles), gnome (also controlled by ibm)
[02:18]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D269.jpg
[02:18]	matey	i dont doubt it, but wheres the ibm connection (other than systemd)
[02:18]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D620.jpg
[02:19]	matey	<gorq> do you think users are changing back to bash from zsh because of the Z?
[02:19]	matey	CANCEL ZED!
[02:19]	matey	Dr. Roy Schestowit
[02:20]	matey	/me uses pdksh, should be fine unless poland invades somewhere
[02:22]	MinceR	22 031811 < matey> i dont doubt it, but wheres the ibm connection (other than systemd)
[02:22]	MinceR	LDF, gnome, fedora itself
[02:22]	MinceR	what's the connection between pdksh and poland?
[02:23]	MinceR	the manpage suggests pdksh is simply "public domain Korn shell"
[02:23]	TR News	The Impermanence Of Architecture gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1026
[02:24]	TR News	SpellBinding AZILOPE Wordo: ADDED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-21.gmi
[02:24]	matey	i just looked at "pdksh" and thought it looked like something written in polish
[02:24]	MinceR	:>
[02:24]	MinceR	and cshrc is a town in bosnia?
[02:24]	matey	why not?
[02:25]	matey	"bash" is an insult in croatia
[02:25]	TR News	"I found out about the Midnight looking up a list of capsules to get started with Gemini, and this might just be the friendliest I've ever seen the internet be!" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1027
[02:26]	matey	if we cancel zed we should also cancel vee
[02:26]	matey	replace all instances of v with u
[02:26]	matey	like roman monuments, but the other way
[02:27]	matey	(this almost makes w highly suspect, but as long as its Double YOO its okay)
[02:28]	TR News	Mixxx 2.3.3 DJ Software Brings Improvements for Pioneer DDJ-SB3 and Traktor S3 Controllers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166315
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Mixxx 2.3.3 DJ Software Brings Improvements for Pioneer DDJ-SB3 and Traktor S3 Controllers | Tux Machines
[02:30]	matey	we could be proactive and just get rid of straight lines in writing altogether 
[02:31]	matey	but then how will we hand mincer a straight line?
[02:32]	MinceR	i'm sure ruscists would just use those squigglies as a swastika then
[02:32]	TR News	How the Eypsultan district of Turkey uses GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166316
[02:33]	TR Bot	 How the Eypsultan district of Turkey uses GNU/Linux | Tux Machines
[02:33]	matey	8
[02:33]	matey	/me gasps
[02:33]	matey	cancel 8!
[02:33]	TR News	It's solstice and I can start seeing some sky light outside at 2:34
[02:34]	MinceR	"it's solstice eve and it's scary"... wait, that's for the other solstice.
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[02:36]	matey	/me thinks halloween should be politicians dressing up as real people and everyone else throwing candy at them
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[02:47]	TR News	"Part steadfast approach - part welcoming spirirt; Collabora continues to successfully expand with new talent amply on deck. Well ahead of the remote work curve, our new joiners have settled into their roles from their respective corners of the planet." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/adding-even-more-heads-for-group-picture.html
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[02:51]	TR News	"I am trying to contact Francis van Dun (FVANDUN on cpan) for permission to relicense Net::DHCP to the MIT license." http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/trying-to-contact-francis-van-dun-fvandun.html
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[02:56]	TR News	Why Ubuntu Isnt a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166318
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[02:56]	TR News	Linux Lite 6.0 Released, Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166319
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● Jun 22
[03:00]	TR News	Canadaian GP warmed up at the end gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-06-22_Canadaian_GP_warmed_up_at_the_end.gmi
[03:06]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   215652 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41248      Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 3 weeks 4 days ago
[03:07]	TR News	EPO PR event again in France/Monaco. What's wrong's with it? See http://techrights.org/2020/04/21/french-epo-budget/ puff piece: https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2022/20220621.html
[03:07]	TR Bot	 France Keeps Winning European Inventor Award (Millions of Euros of EPO Budget) | Techrights
[03:07]	TR Bot	 EPO - All the winners: European Inventor Award 2022
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[03:33]	TR News	Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/
[03:33]	TR Bot	 Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights
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[03:34]	techrights_guest|20	Hello
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[03:34]		*Guest16 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
[03:34]	Guest16	Hello
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[03:47]	schestowitz_TR	hi Guest16 
[03:47]	Guest16	Hello
[03:47]	schestowitz_TR	new here?
[03:47]	Guest16	Yes
[03:48]	schestowitz_TR	it's quiet around this time
[03:48]	Guest16	I have a WebSocket IRC server, could I connect my relay to this network and relay one or two channels that aren't used on this network, by chance?
[03:48]	schestowitz_TR	let me see if I get thgis right:
[03:49]	schestowitz_TR	you want to set up a channel here
[03:49]	schestowitz_TR	and then relay that to another network
[03:49]	TR News	[Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/
[03:49]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights
[03:54]	TR News	Petition for ministerial conference on European Patent Organisation http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/17/petition-for-ministerial-conference-on-european-patent-organisation/
[03:54]	TR Bot	 Petition for ministerial conference on European Patent Organisation - Kluwer Patent Blog
[03:55]	AdmFubar	https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Internet-Explorer-shutdown-to-cause-Japan-headaches-for-months
[03:55]	TR Bot	 Internet Explorer shutdown to cause Japan headaches 'for months' - Nikkei Asia
[03:56]	Guest16	schestowitz_TR: Yes
[03:56]	schestowitz_TR	I don't see why now
[03:56]	schestowitz_TR	which channel would it be?
[03:56]	Guest16	Like #spam and #qemu
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[03:57]	Guest16	I already have channels on my network, but my network is difficult to connect to.
[03:58]	schestowitz_TR	I see
[03:58]	schestowitz_TR	so you want people to use ours for access and then bridge it across?
[03:58]	Guest16	If they won't go to the work of connecting to https://solanum.9pfs.repl.co/ (Which takes a lot of work to connect to), then they'd at least have an alternative.
[03:58]	TR Bot	 Kiwi IRC
[03:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 239.06
[03:59]	schestowitz_TR	Guest16: sure, go for it
● Jun 22
[04:00]	Guest16	Okay
[04:00]	Guest16	How would I register an account using this network's services?
[04:01]	schestowitz	   /motd
[04:01]	Guest16	Okay
[04:01]	Guest16	Does this server require verification?
[04:02]	schestowitz	email iirc
[04:02]	schestowitz	then you can register further
[04:02]	Guest16	Okay
[04:02]	schestowitz	or I could register them now
[04:02]	schestowitz	someone recently killed off a whole channel by deregistering the nickname
[04:04]	Guest16	How do I get email verification to work?
[04:04]	Guest16	I haven't received a verification email.
[04:05]	schestowitz_TR	I'm not sure you need to 
[04:05]	Guest16	Oh
[04:05]	schestowitz_TR	 /msg NickServ register mySecretPassword validEmailAddress@example.com
[04:05]	schestowitz_TR	just specify an address
[04:06]	schestowitz_TR	manual:  http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, June 21, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:07]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166321
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[04:13]	Guest16	Could you op my bot on #qemu ?
[04:13]	Guest16	[8:13:11 PM] pylink-_9pfs has joined
[04:14]	Guest16	Never mind
[04:16]	schestowitz_TR	ok
[04:18]	TR News	"as a relative new comer to Gemini, Im confused about what happened to the mailing list. is there a good write up of the drama anywhere?" gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/494
[04:20]	TR News	"The price of diesel has reached 1.90 per litre (about $9 per US gallon), food prices are way up, the economy seems to be heading for a period of stagflation, the UK government is destroying the constitutional checks and balances on its actions, Russia is making gains in eastern Ukraine" gemini://rochelimit.uk/gemlog.gmi
[04:20]	Guest16	My #qemu channel is a Linux virtual machine with its terminal accessible via IRC (and network access).
[04:20]	TR News	2022-06-22 Locrian.Zone: THE STORY OF THE INEXPERIENCED GHOST added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Inexperienced_Ghost.gmi
[04:21]	schestowitz_TR	Guest16: good that you do not rely on very large networks
[04:21]	schestowitz_TR	we saw what can happen to them 12 months ago
[04:21]	Guest16	Why is that good?
[04:21]	schestowitz_TR	*13 even
[04:21]	Guest16	Oh.
[04:22]	schestowitz_TR	people assume it's "free"
[04:22]	Guest16	I do use large networks, I just don't link my relay to them because of SASL issues.
[04:22]	schestowitz_TR	until even "FREE"node is not
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[04:22]	schestowitz_TR	SASL  is against the concept of IRC
[04:22]	Guest16	Reminds me, I was working on a shell script to join #freenode on that network and start flooding.
[04:22]	Guest16	It won't work, could someone help?
[04:23]	schestowitz_TR	freenode changed last year
[04:23]	Guest16	( cat ping-fifo|grep PING|sed s/PING/PONG/|tee /dev/stderr & sleep 28; echo "USER abcd abcd abcd abcd"; echo "NICK abcd"; sleep 5; echo "JOIN #freenode" ; sleep 80; yes "PRIVMSG #freenode :I am an IRC bot, coming to eat Freenode" ; sleep 3; echo "QUIT :Bye" ) | ncat irc.freenode.net 6667 | tee ping-fifo
[04:23]	Guest16	ping-fifo is a named pipe
[04:23]	schestowitz_TR	freenode keeps changing, too
[04:23]	schestowitz_TR	they are not sure what they want to do with the thin
[04:23]	schestowitz_TR	*thing
[04:24]	schestowitz_TR	my prediction is that freenode might not even survive until next year
[04:24]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/leenode-birthday/
[04:24]	TR Bot	 A Libera.Chat Anniversary and Happy Birthday (Maybe the Last) to Leenode | Techrights
[04:25]	TR News	European Inventor Award is little but a graft opportunity and a way to bribe nations (money in exchange for special favours); its also a way to reward questionable people, dismantle the notion of patent neutrality, and pass bribes to a lot of European publishers that might otherwise expose EPO corruption http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/
[04:25]	TR Bot	 Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights
[04:25]	TR News	The EPO lies about financial deficits while spending nearly $100,000,000 on more than a decade of problematic "awards" that occasionally glorify massive frauds http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/
[04:26]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights
[04:29]	TR News	Mass surveillance enabler https://www.maketecheasier.com/embedded-sim-esim-explained/
[04:29]	TR Bot	 What Is eSIM and Who Can Use It? - Make Tech Easier
[04:30]	Guest16	Is it dangerous to link a channel to Freenode?
[04:31]	schestowitz_TR	no
[04:31]	TR News	Clonezilla 3.0.1-8 https://clonezilla.org/
[04:31]	TR Bot	 Clonezilla - About
[04:31]	Guest16	I just linked my #qemu channel to #9pfs-qemu on freenode
[04:32]	schestowitz_TR	they have weird and fast-changing policies
[04:33]	schestowitz_TR	they disenfranchised thousand of channelss last year
[04:33]	schestowitz_TR	without notice
[04:33]	schestowitz_TR	that network is run by a weedhead
[04:34]	Guest16	Could I sync this channel with my network using my PyLink relay?
[04:35]	schestowitz_TR	I suppose...
[04:35]	Guest16	My bot would need +o for at least 3 seconds.
[04:35]	Guest16	Otherwise, it wouldn't connect.
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[04:37]	schestowitz_TR	wait
[04:37]	Guest16	This is what it does otherwise.
[04:37]	Guest16	[8:37:45 PM] <_9pfs> remote techrights link solanum #techrights
[04:37]	Guest16	[8:37:45 PM] [NOTICE] Error: Please op the bot in '#techrights' to complete this operation.
[04:38]	Guest16	Once it is +o, it'll work, but it won't send messages if it isn't when it starts syncing the first time.
[04:38]	schestowitz_TR	I am not channel operator in the channels you set up
[04:39]	Guest16	I set them up, they're working
[04:39]	schestowitz_TR	oh, you want op here?
[04:40]	Guest16	My bot needs to be +o at least once, or it won't let me add a link entry.
[04:40]		*schestowitz gives channel operator status to pylink-_9pfs
[04:40]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - Netjoin gained users: _9pfs
[04:40]	Guest16	I think it should work now
[04:40]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Hello
[04:40]		*schestowitz removes channel operator status from pylink-_9pfs
[04:40]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I see 52 users now, should I?
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Here's my network map
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:52 PM] solanum.repl[9PF] -------------------------------- | Users: 3 ( 3.2%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] |- solanum2.repl[9A0] --------------------------- | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- services.solanum2.repl[678] -------------- | Users: 17 (18.3%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | `- pylink.solanum.repl[0PY] ----------------- | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- freenode.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[802 | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- techrights.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[8 | Users: 50 (53.8%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | `- libreirc.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[800 | Users: 2 ( 2.2%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] `- services.solanum.repl[677] ------------------- | Users: 18 (19.4%)
[04:41]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:54 PM] End of /MAP
[04:41]	TR News	Giving up on GNOME To Do Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166322
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Giving up on GNOME To Do | Tux Machines
[04:42]	schestowitz_TR	GNUmoon2: just make it a  little less verbose pls
[04:42]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - Netjoin gained users: ChanServ
[04:43]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - Notice from @ChanServ: _9pfs enabled the SECURE flag
[04:43]	TR News	Linux Plumbers Conference: Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: CPU Isolation https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/22/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-cpu-isolation/
[04:43]	TR Bot	 Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: CPU Isolation Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
[04:44]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I was making sure remote users wouldn't be +o on this network, sorry
[04:44]	TR News	Waitlist https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/22/registration-still-sold-out-but-there-is-now-a-waitlist/
[04:44]	TR Bot	 Registration Still Sold Out, But There is Now a Waitlist Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
[04:44]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - Notice from @ChanServ: _9pfs set flags +AORVefiorstv on $server:pylink.solanum.repl
[04:44]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - ChanServ (ChanServ@services.solanum.repl) sets mode +o _9pfs-PyLink on #techrights
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &help
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	PyLink provides extended network services for IRC.
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	Available commands include: autoconnect, chandesc, checkban, checkbanre, chghost, chgident, chgname, claim, clearqueue, create, delink, destroy, disconnect, echo, forcetag, help, identify, jupe, kick, kill, link, linkacl, linked, list, load, localmap, loglevel, logout, map, massban, massbanre, masskill, masskillre, mkpasswd, mode, modedelta, purge, raw, rehash, reload, reloadproto, remote, rpm, save, showchan, shownet, showuser, shutdown,
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	status, topic, unload, version
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	To see help on a specific command, type help <command>.
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &rehash
[04:45]	pylink-_9pfs	Done.
[04:48]	TR News	Ubuntu Core 22 Brings Real-time Compute Support for IoT Industrial Applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34098
[04:48]	TR Bot	 Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux Machines
[04:48]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I hope my relay's not annoying
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &help
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	PyLink provides extended network services for IRC.
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	Available commands include: autoconnect, chandesc, checkban, checkbanre, chghost, chgident, chgname, claim, clearqueue, create, delink, destroy, disconnect, echo, forcetag, help, identify, jupe, kick, kill, link, linkacl, linked, list, load, localmap, loglevel, logout, map, massban, massbanre, masskill, masskillre, mkpasswd, mode, modedelta, purge, raw, rehash, reload, reloadproto, remote, rpm, save, showchan, shownet, showuser, shutdown,
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	status, topic, unload, version
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	To see help on a specific command, type help <command>.
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> !help
[04:50]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> !lottery
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[04:51]	TR News	10 Best Kali Linux Tools for Hackers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166323
[04:51]	TR Bot	 10 Best Kali Linux Tools for Hackers | Tux Machines
[04:54]	TR News	</p></blockquote></li>
[04:54]	TR News	Discourses of climate delay https://idiomdrottning.org/discourses-of-climate-delay
[04:54]	TR Bot	 Discourses of climate delay
[04:55]	Guest16	What? XSS?
[04:57]	TR News	"For many years, I was only a casual user of rsync and used it mostly for one-off file transfers. Over time, I found rsync useful in more and more cases, and would recommend every computer user put this great tool into their toolbox" https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-06-18-rsync-overview/
[04:57]	TR Bot	 rsync: Series Overview - Michael Stapelberg
[04:58]	TR News	How Trustless Is Bitcoin, Really? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/06/science/bitcoin-nakamoto-blackburn-crypto.html
[04:58]	TR Bot	 How Trustless Is Bitcoin, Really? - The New York Times
[04:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[04:59]	TR News	"Simple works best even for applications at planet scale (powering the internet). Why do Protocols Win? Even our most machine-oriented systems still have a human element to them. There's no guarantee that HTTP would have beat out other protocols if it were designed with full efficiency over practicality on day one." https://matt-rickard.com/the-power-of-plaintext-protocols/
[04:59]	TR Bot	 The Power of Plaintext Protocols
● Jun 22
[05:00]	TR News	"The intrusion comes amid heightened sensitivity around unlawful or unauthorized access to congressional buildings and came as the third public hearing by the House panel investigating the January 6 Capitol insurrection concluded." https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jun/18/stephen-colbert-staff-members-arrested-capitol-hill-robert-smigel
[05:00]	TR Bot	 Stephen Colbert staff members arrested for trespassing on Capitol Hill | Stephen Colbert | The Guardian
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[05:01]	TR News	Why does Science News Suck So Much? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9Gn4rmQTZek Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[05:01]	TR Bot	 Why does Science News Suck So Much? - Invidious
[05:01]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - ircuser (~ircuser@users.solanum2.repl) is now known as _9pfs1
[05:01]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] - _9pfs1 (~ircuser@users.solanum2.repl) is now known as TestServ
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[05:02]	TR News	"Im thinking narrowly here. Not a corporate blog run by individuals and backed by an organization. And not an individual blog thats hosted on a platform, like Medium. Im asking, specifically, about an indie bloga blog written and run by an individual who owns the domain and controls their own content." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-message-and-medium-of-the-personal-blog/
[05:02]	TR Bot	 The Message Behind the Medium of a Personal Blog - Jim Nielsens Blog
[05:03]	Guest16	What are these bots?
[05:03]	TR News	https://cacm.3D-Printed Acoustic Holograms Against Alzheimer's or Parkinson's acm.org/news/261090-3d-printed-acoustic-holograms-against-alzheimers-or-parkinsons/fulltext
[05:03]	TR Bot	not resolve host: cacm.3D-Printed; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://cacm.3D-Printed )
[05:03]	schestowitz_TR	which, techrights-news ?
[05:04]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> All of them
[05:04]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> They're confusing.
[05:04]	TR News	Masterclass in leadership https://michaelwest.com.au/the-great-sydney-university-grant-swindle/
[05:04]	TR Bot	 The great Sydney University grant swindle - Michael West
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	confusing in what  sense?
[05:05]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> They constantly send messages.
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	that's how IRC worrrks
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	we syndicate some news, curated manually
[05:05]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I thought IRC was for people, not bots.
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	and so on and so forth
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	this time of the day is quiet
[05:05]	schestowitz_TR	so not many conversations
[05:06]	schestowitz_TR	it's not a bot per se
[05:06]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Oh.
[05:06]	schestowitz_TR	techrights-news is not a bot really
[05:06]	schestowitz_TR	it's ii running in the command line and taking input that is site-related
[05:07]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Could I put my own bots on my network that send content that is related to websites?
[05:08]	TR News	John Gruber has turned his blog into sponsorship spam when he's not doing advertising directly for Apple. I remember how blog being vastly more useful. Example: "My thanks to Rows for sponsoring this week at DF." (So the RSS feed itself is the ads) :/
[05:09]	schestowitz_TR	pylink-_9pfs: yes, if topics overlap
[05:09]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Okay.
[05:10]	TR News	"sortcanon.py is a tool to sort text files according to some canonicalization function. For example, sorting domains or ipv4 addresses. This is actually an old tool, that I still had to publish. I just updated it to Python 3." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/06/18/new-tool-sortcanon-py/
[05:10]	TR Bot	 New Tool: sortcanon.py | Didier Stevens
[05:10]	TR News	8 Ways to Prevent Replay Attacks How to Stop the Interception and Retransmission of Data https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/prevent-replay-attacks/ Source: privateinternetaccess
[05:10]	TR Bot	 8 Ways to Prevent Replay Attacks How to Stop the Interception and Retransmission of Data
[05:11]	TR News	Rubenerd: Cryptocurrency waste, in all senses of the word https://rubenerd.com/cryptocurrency-waste/ Source: rubenerd
[05:11]	TR Bot	Cryptocurrency waste, in all senses of the word
[05:12]	TR News	"Ive felt that for a few pieces of kit lately. I keep it around in the hopes that one day Ill skill up enough to work on them." https://rubenerd.com/cathode-ray-dude-on-retro-hardware-collecting/
[05:12]	TR Bot	Cathode Ray Dude on retro hardware collecting
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[05:15]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> What's the ipfs bot?
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● Jun 22
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[06:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[06:58]	schestowitz_TR	GNUmoon2: the relay is just too verbose
[06:58]	schestowitz_TR	Guest1648: ^
[06:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[06:59]	Guest1648	My relay?
[06:59]	Guest1648	I could maybe change something on it
[06:59]	GNUmoon2	?
[06:59]	schestowitz_TR	sorry, wrong autocomplete
[06:59]	GNUmoon2	NP :)
[06:59]	Guest1648	Not sure how, though. (Due to how PyLink works)
● Jun 22
[07:00]	TR News	Linux rm command with Advance Syntax for Pros Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166324
[07:00]	TR Bot	 Linux rm command with Advance Syntax for Pros | Tux Machines
[07:02]	TR News	"While the number of new security bulletins for IBM i is nowhere near what we see with Windows Server and Linux platforms, it has become a constant game of Whack-a-mole." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/22/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-24-number-25/
[07:02]	TR Bot	 IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 24, Number 25 - IT Jungle
[07:04]	TR News	"In recent weeks, IBM has disclosed a handful of vulnerabilities in its IBM i operating system and related IBM i products, including Db2 Mirror, WebSphere, Navigator for i, the Java development and runtime tools, and OmniFind Text Search Server. IBM has shipped PTFs for the security problems, which range in severity from medium to high." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/22/multiple-security-vulnerabilities-patched-on-ibm-i/
[07:04]	TR Bot	 Multiple Security Vulnerabilities Patched on IBM i - IT Jungle
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[07:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, I'm going to steal a line from Bob's Burgers and modify it a little.
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[07:09]	DaemonFC	I'm a lot like Navy Pier. Somehow I've made it almost 40 years without being sued into the ground or falling into the lake.
[07:09]	TR News	"Engineers build systems. Good engineers always stress and focus efficiency of these systems." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/06/19#038_faster_feedback_systems
[07:09]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box
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[07:09]	schestowitz_TR	Bob's Burger?
[07:10]	matey	tv show
[07:10]	TR News	FFSS, stop calling every computer program "HEY HI" https://www.inc.com/ben-sherry/artificial-intelligence-hospitality-industry.html
[07:10]	TR Bot	Ways A.I. Is Transforming the Hospitality Industry | Inc.com
[07:11]	TR News	Another example of overuse of the buzzwords/term "HEY HI" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/well/eat/ai-diet-personalized.html
[07:11]	TR Bot	 Here Come the Artificial Intelligence Nutritionists - The New York Times
[07:11]	DaemonFC	They made a movie.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	We went to the movies all evening.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	I figure it was cheaper than running the air conditioner.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	It got up to like 120 degrees outside today with the heat index.
[07:12]	matey	Excuse me. I believe you meant to say "eldritch studmuffin". http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3800/fc03765.png
[07:12]	TR News	Comparing Local Kubernetes Development Solutions - Earthly Blog https://earthly.dev/blog/k8s-dev-solutions/ Source: earthly
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Comparing Local Kubernetes Development Solutions - Earthly Blog
[07:12]	DaemonFC	The new Doctor Strange isn't bad either.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	Sam Raimi directed it.
[07:12]	schestowitz_TR	sounds like Manji almost
[07:13]	schestowitz_TR	or Ramji
[07:13]	matey	/me doesnt even know where a sqid learns the word "studmuffin" on a terreformed planet covered in robots
[07:13]	DaemonFC	You know, he did the Evil Dead series.
[07:13]	DaemonFC	Which was funny because part of the plot was Doctor Strange was stuck in a mirror universe and had to possess a corpse of himself.
[07:14]	matey	probably from the robots. they have internet.
[07:14]	TR News	Raspberry Pi 3A+ Mod Brings Double the RAM | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-3a-1-gb-ram-mod Source: tomshardware
[07:14]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi 3A+ Mod Brings Double the RAM | Tom's Hardware
[07:14]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Retro Black and White TV Hack https://gizmodo.com/raspberry-pi-retro-black-and-white-tv-set-hack-youtube-1849088028 Source: gizmodo
[07:14]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Retro Black and White TV Hack
[07:15]	TR News	Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility (Updated) | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/devterm-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-adapter Source: tomshardware
[07:15]	TR Bot	 Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility (Updated) | Tom's Hardware
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[07:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, This sort of heat is more like August.
[07:22]	DaemonFC	It gets really bad at the end of August and then it settles down.
[07:22]	DaemonFC	This is really not good for the corn and stuff.
[07:23]	DaemonFC	If it doesn't settle down soon then there might be crop loss due to the heat.
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[07:49]	Guest1648	Don't do this:
[07:49]	Guest1648	&masskill *!*@*
[07:49]	pylink-_9pfs	Error: You are missing one of the following permissions: opercmds.masskill
[07:49]	Guest1648	Wiped your entire server.
[07:49]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> s/your/my/
[07:50]	matey	presumably this is an ircd specific thing
[07:50]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> It's a PyLink command.
[07:51]	matey	and a bot shouldnt have the permissions
[07:52]	TR News	"In other news, my parents flew in last night only to find out when they arrived that they have COVID. We wore masks in the car and they are isolating in their room, so hopefully I will avoid catching it." gemini://sprock.dev/posts/not-dead.gmi
[07:52]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> If you have a PyLink server connected to any network with the opercmds.masskill permission, your entire network and any connected networks will be wiped of users. (It can't do anything on your network, because my bot isn't +o anywhere (and shouldn't be))
[07:52]	pylink-_9pfs	[Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> my bot shouldn't be +o on anything it doesn't have to be because of me being that stupid.
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[07:55]	TR News	Legends start at 1.0! FreeBSD in 1993 (pt. 2) https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/legends-start-at-1-0-freebsd-in-1993-pt-2/
[07:55]	TR Bot	 Legends start at 1.0! FreeBSD in 1993 (pt. 2) | eerielinux
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[07:57]	TR News	TUIFI Manager: A file manager, in the terminal, with file icons made out of ascii characters. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/tuifi-manager-a-file-manager-in-the Source: lunduke
[07:57]	TR Bot	 TUIFI Manager: A file manager, in the terminal, with file icons made out of ascii characters.
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● Jun 22
[08:00]	TR News	The Historic Keweenaw Mountain Lodge Designated as Michigans Third International Dark Sky Park - International Dark-Sky Association https://www.darksky.org/the-historic-keweenaw-mountain-lodge-designated-as-michigans-third-international-dark-sky-park/ Source: darksky
[08:00]	TR Bot	 The Historic Keweenaw Mountain Lodge Designated as Michigans Third International Dark Sky Park - International Dark-Sky Association
[08:02]	TR News	"Wikimedia Movement and the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU have the pleasure to invite you to a Monsters of Law event featuring First Advocate General of the Court of Justice of the European Union, Maciej Szpunar titled: New Technologies and Fundamental Rights." https://edri.org/take-action/events/new-technologies-and-fundamental-rights-monsters-of-law-event/
[08:02]	TR Bot	 New Technologies and Fundamental Rights - Monsters of Law event - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[08:03]	TR News	Microsoft itself is a scam https://threatpost.com/voicemail-phishing-scam-steals-microsoft-credentials/180005/
[08:03]	TR Bot	Scam Steals Microsoft Credentials | Threatpost
[08:04]	TR News	Microsoft is King of Ransomware https://threatpost.com/office-365-opens-ransomware-attacks-on-onedrive-sharepoint/180010/
[08:04]	TR Bot	365 Config Loophole Opens OneDrive, SharePoint Data to Ransomware Attack | Threatpost
[08:06]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Projects and News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166325
[08:06]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Projects and News | Tux Machines
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[08:08]		*psydruid is waiting for ransomware to run in the Microsoft clown
[08:08]	schestowitz_TR	Microsoft: PAY US or else
[08:08]	schestowitz_TR	that's "official" ransom
[08:08]	schestowitz_TR	doe snto count
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[08:10]	TR News	Happy 80th, Paul McCartney! "Clara and I have been diving headfirst into Pauls discography of late, and now I learn the chap just hit the big 80 yesterday." https://rubenerd.com/happy-80th-paul-mccartney/
[08:10]	TR Bot	Happy 80th, Paul McCartney!
[08:11]	TR News	You Need to be Wrong (Sometimes) https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2022/06/20/You-Need-to-be-Wrong-Sometimes/
[08:11]	TR Bot	 You Need to be Wrong (Sometimes) | Ben Congdon
[08:13]	TR News	Bitcoin and ether both are down 70%+ since November 2021
[08:14]	TR News	The sweatshop company https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/18/technology/apple-union-maryland.html
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Apple Workers at Maryland Store Vote to Unionize, a First in the U.S. - The New York Times
[08:15]	TR News	"The House of Representatives on Monday, following an earlier vote by the Senate, approved legislation that retailers believe will help reign in ocean carriers who have used the coronavirus pandemic as a rational to jack up rates to transport goods to the U.S." https://retailwire.com/discussion/retailers-applaud-as-ocean-shipping-reform-act-sails-through-congress/
[08:15]	TR Bot	applaud as Ocean Shipping Reform Act sails through Congress RetailWire
[08:16]	TR News	Standards on buzzwords: another IEEE profiteering opportunity? https://standards.ieee.org/initiatives/artificial-intelligence-systems/
[08:16]	TR Bot	 IEEE SA - Artificial Intelligence Systems (AIS)
[08:18]	TR News	Differences between base and ports LLVM in OpenBSD https://www.cambus.net/differences-between-base-and-ports-llvm-in-openbsd/
[08:18]	TR Bot	 Differences between base and ports LLVM in OpenBSD | Frederic Cambus
[08:21]	TR News	Microsoft : DAY-LONG downtimes https://therecord.media/microsoft-365-cloudflare-say-service-restored-after-outages/
[08:21]	TR Bot	 Microsoft 365, Cloudflare say service restored after outages - The Record by Recorded Future
[08:22]	TR News	Microsoft Epstein https://www.techradar.com/news/wait-is-microsoft-tempting-kids-away-from-chrome-with-minecraft-money "Well, he's dead"... not
[08:22]	TR Bot	is Microsoft tempting kids away from Chrome with Minecraft money? | TechRadar
[08:24]	TR News	SolidRun RZ/G2LC SOM is powered by Renesas RZ/G2LC processor for AI-enhanced HMI applications - CNX Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166312#comment-34099
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Devices: Memfault, AOI, amd SolidRun | Tux Machines
[08:25]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/irc-log-210622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/irc-log-210622/
[08:25]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 | Techrights
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[08:35]	TR News	Links 22/06/2022: Turkeys GNU/Linux Stories and Giving up on GNOME To Do | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/turkey-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/turkey-gnu-linux/
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Links 22/06/2022: Turkeys GNU/Linux Stories and Giving up on GNOME To Do | Techrights
[08:35]	TR News	Security and Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166326
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Security and Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:36]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166327
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:36]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166328
[08:36]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:36]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166329
[08:36]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:38]	TR News	Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-to-leave-early-access-this-summer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:38]	TR Bot	Game: Dystopian Army Builder to leave Early Access this 'Summer' | GamingOnLinux
[08:38]	TR News	Now on GNU/Linux "proper" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/horror-mystery-visual-novel-five-stages-of-pink-now-supported-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:38]	TR Bot	mystery visual novel Five Stages of Pink now supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux
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[08:39]	TR News	"SolidRun announced today a partnership with Renesas Electronics at Embedded World. According to SolidRun" https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[08:39]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ )
[08:40]	TR News	"As you may already know, when an user enter a command with sudo privileges, the sudo password will be remembered for a brief period of time." https://ostechnix.com/force-sudo-password-authentication-in-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
[08:40]	TR Bot	To Force Sudo Password Authentication In Linux - OSTechNix
[08:41]	TR News	"This is a tutorial to install Unity Desktop Environment on Ubuntu 22.04." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/ubuntu-unity-jammy-jellyfish.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Unity Jammy Jellyfish
[08:42]	TR News	"Linux has always been known for its flexibility and installing packages from ISO is one of them." https://www.tecmint.com/create-rhel-9-local-repository/ | Source: TecMint
[08:42]	TR Bot	 How to Install Software Packages Using Local RHEL 9 ISO
[08:42]	TR News	"MySQL is one of the oldest and most reliable open-source relational database management systems which is trusted" https://www.tecmint.com/install-mysql-fedora-linux/ | Source: TecMint
[08:42]	TR Bot	 How to Install MySQL 8 in Fedora 36 Linux
[08:43]	TR News	iophk: pocket change, he is mistaking this for assistance, see third comment https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/microsoft-gives-10k-to-gnome-shorts:b
[08:43]	TR Bot	 MICROSOFT gives $10K to GNOME #SHORTS
[08:44]	TR News	Plausibility of Claimed Covid-19 Vaccine Efficacies by Age:... : American Journal of Therapeutics https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Abstract/9900/Plausibility_of_Claimed_Covid_19_Vaccine.47.aspx Source blocked by javascript
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Plausibility of Claimed Covid-19 Vaccine Efficacies by Age:... : American Journal of Therapeutics
[08:47]	TR News	RPG https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/fountains-is-a-promising-looking-metroidvania-action-rpg-with-a-demo-up/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR Bot	is a promising looking metroidvania action-RPG with a demo up | GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR News	Another RPG https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/erannorth-chronicles-gets-fixed-up-for-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR Bot	Chronicles gets fixed up for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR News	Twisted Tale https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/comedy-point-and-click-adventure-a-twisted-tale-has-a-demo-and-kickstarter-live/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR Bot	point and click adventure A Twisted Tale has a demo and Kickstarter live | GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR News	Steam Deck https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/missed-your-steam-deck-email-valve-confirms-a-grace-period-to-still-get-one/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:47]	TR Bot	your Steam Deck email? Valve confirms a grace period to still get one | GamingOnLinux
[08:51]	TR News	Hey, Pro Publica, you are bagging BRIBES from the world's biggest tax avoider AND famous criminal, Bill Gates. Will you do an article about those who bribe you too? https://www.propublica.org/article/jeff-yass-susquehanna-tiktok-tax-avoidance
[08:51]	TR Bot	 Jeff Yass: The Billionaire GOP Mega-Donor Gaming the Tax System ProPublica
[08:52]	TR News	"Some readers have written in with questions about my photo geotagging post from last week" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/06/20/exif/ | Source: Rachel
[08:52]	TR Bot	 More on geo-tagging photos with a time element
[08:52]	TR News	"Spotify announced the recipients of the 2022 Spotify FOSS Fund and urllib3 was among the 8 projects" https://sethmlarson.dev/blog/get-paid-to-contribute-to-urllib3?date=2022-06-21 | Source: Seth Michael Larson
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Get paid to contribute to urllib3 (Newsletter #7)
[08:53]	TR News	Games: Despots Game: Dystopian Army Builder, Five Stages of Pink, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166330
[08:53]	TR Bot	 Games: Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder, Five Stages of Pink, and More | Tux Machines
[08:54]	TR News	"TCL is one of those scripting languages which used to be used a hell of a lot in the past" https://blog.steve.fi/writing_a_simple_tcl_interpreter_in_golang.html | Source: Steve Kemp
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golang
[08:54]	TR News	"The modern web is replete with such examples, where convention is discarded for stylistic reasons" https://rubenerd.com/web-design-101-field-order-matters/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[08:54]	TR Bot	Web design 101: field order matters
[08:54]	TR News	"Yet, Id like yet another layer: semantic bookmarking of history entrie" https://ane.iki.fi/2022/06/21/beenthere-donethat.html |
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Been there, done that
[08:55]	TR News	Hardware: "Recently we got some 20 TB HDDs to become the future data storage for our Prometheus metrics system" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/HDDsNowSomewhatBetter | Source: uni Toronto
[08:55]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/HDDsNowSomewhatBetter
[08:56]	TR News	Proprietary = junk https://www.computerworld.com/article/3664141/cloudflare-outage-brings-hundreds-of-sites-services-temporarily-offline.html | Source: Computer World
[08:56]	TR Bot	outage brings hundreds of sites, services temporarily offline | Computerworld
[08:56]	TR News	Microsoft junk https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/microsoft-outlook-email-issues-cloudflare-b2105870.html | Source: The Independent UK
[08:56]	TR Bot	 Microsofts Outlook email taken down by global internet outage | The Independent
[08:56]	TR News	Microsoft = no working getting done https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/tech/microsoft-outlook-outage-email-service-down-with-company-working-on-fix-after-service-inaccessible-3739663 | Source: The Scotsman
[08:56]	TR Bot	Outlook outage: Email service down with company working on fix after service inaccessible | The Scotsman
[08:56]	TR News	Maybe time to end the back doors, NSA? https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3531924-former-nsa-chief-warns-against-russian-cyberattacks-against-us-financial-sector/ | Source: The Hill
[08:56]	TR Bot	 Former NSA chief warns of Russian cyberattacks against US financial sector | The Hill
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[08:59]	TR News	Privacy abuses by Gulag in NHS are well documented: "Yet it is Alphabet, Googles corporate parent, whose health-care ambitions seem to be the most vaulting." https://www.economist.com/business/2022/06/20/alphabet-is-spending-billions-to-become-a-force-in-health-care | Source: The Economist
[08:59]	TR Bot	is spending billions to become a force in health care | The Economist
[08:59]	TR News	"There is a significant problem, though." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/hidden-anti-cryptography-provisions-in-internet-anti-trust-bills.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
[08:59]	TR Bot	Anti-Cryptography Provisions in Internet Anti-Trust Bills - Schneier on Security
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[09:00]	TR News	"What I want you to do after you finish reading this, is email me every single login you have." https://gregoryhammond.ca/blog/is-privacy-dead/ | Source: Gregory Hammond
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Is Privacy Dead - Gregory Hammond
[09:00]	TR News	"The legislation was drafted in response to a Supreme Court draft leaked in May that showed the court was prepared to overturn Roe v. Wade, a decision that would trigger abortion bans or severe restrictions in a number of U.S. states." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3531776-democrats-introduce-bill-to-ban-collection-of-reproductive-health-data/ | Source: The Hill
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Democrats introduce bill to ban collection of reproductive health data | The Hill
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[09:03]	TR News	"Promoting such false information violates the policies of Facebook, Twitter and TikTok." https://www.salon.com/2022/06/21/big-lie-vigilantes-publish-targets-online--but-facebook-and-twitter-are-asleep-at-the-wheel_partner/ | Source: Salon
[09:03]	TR Bot	Lie vigilantes publish targets online but Facebook and Twitter are asleep at the wheel | Salon.com
[09:03]	TR News	"According to the leak, the German government asks 61 questions, which in part are very tough and will pose serious problems for the EU Commission to answer." https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/will-germany-fight-for-privacy/ | Source: Tutao GmbH
[09:03]	TR Bot	 Leaked 'chat control' document: Will Germany fight for privacy?
[09:04]	TR News	"the State and Local Government Cybersecurity Act" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3531553-biden-signs-cyber-bills-into-law/ | Source: The Hill
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Biden signs cyber bills into law | The Hill
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[09:09]	TR News	"The "TV people" that Colbert referenced included Fox News host Tucker Carlson" https://text.npr.org/1106374559 | Source: NPR
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Here's how Stephen Colbert says his staff members got arrested on Capitol Hill
[09:09]	TR News	"Fresh off his legal battle with his ex-wife Amber Heard, Johnny Depp took to his social media" https://www.freepressjournal.in/hollywood/johnny-depp-warns-fans-of-fake-accounts-pretending-to-be-him-on-social-media | Source: Free Press Journal
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Johnny Depp warns fans of fake accounts pretending to be him on social media
[09:09]	TR News	"I ask that you remain cautious as it seems these fake accounts can be relentless" https://people.com/movies/johnny-depp-asks-fans-to-be-cautious-as-his-team-combats-fake-social-media-accounts/ | Source: People Magazine
[09:09]	TR Bot	Depp: My Team Is Working to 'Combat' Fake Social Media Accounts | PEOPLE.com
[09:09]	TR News	"In a note shared on Instagram Story, the 59-year-old said that he was informed that some 'fake' social media accounts were 'pretending' to be him or claiming that they work with him." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/i-do-not-have-any-private-or-side-accounts-johnny-depp-warns-fans-of-imposters-shares-list-of-verified-profiles/articleshow/92333394.cms | Source: India Times
[09:09]	TR Bot	 johnny depp: 'I do not have any private or side accounts'. Johnny Depp warns fans of impostors, shares list of verified profiles - The Economic Times
[09:10]	TR News	"The photo was taken by Matt Beemsterboer, 34, who was surprised to see the likes of Elon Musk share it Tuesday, considering the price depicted wasn't accurate" https://text.npr.org/1106450478 | Source: NPR
[09:10]	TR Bot	 No, this 7-Eleven isn't charging $7.11 for gas, even if the internet says so
[09:10]	TR News	Censorship: "My brief tangle with the mob taught me that it is not when I am most embattled that I see most clearly" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/opinion/cancel-culture-friendship.html | Source: New York Times
[09:10]	TR Bot	 Opinion | If I Get Canceled, I Want Friends, Not Allies - The New York Times
[09:11]	TR News	Freedom of the Press: "Now is the time to end the dangerous threat to basic freedoms and the rule of law that the Julian Assange persecution represents." https://michaelwest.com.au/time-to-act-anthony-albanese-the-assange-persecution-cannot-be-allowed-to-go-on/ | Source: Michael West Media
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Anthony Albanese, it's time to end the Julian Assange persecution
[09:12]	TR News	Freedom of the Press: "Puname at the time worked for daily Postimees." https://news.err.ee/1608636064/family-values-group-head-fined-over-journalist-ejection-from-public-protest | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Family values group head fined over journalist ejection from public protest | News | ERR
[09:12]	TR News	"Investigators say the latest information indicates officers had more than enough firepower and protection to take down the gunman long before they finally did." https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/2022/06/20/officers-arrived-uvalde-school-rifles-shield-9-minutes-after-gunman/7623318001/ |
[09:12]	TR Bot	American-Statesman
[09:13]	TR News	"Police could have stopped Uvalde shooting within 3 minutes [...] it took about an hour and 14 minute" https://text.npr.org/1106372103 | Source: NPR
[09:13]	TR Bot	 The police response at Robb Elementary was a failure, a Texas official says
[09:16]	TR News	After Gulag go tackle Microsoft's much bigger crimes in Germany https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1930990.html | Source: RTL
[09:16]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - Unfair advantage: Germany opens anti-cartel probe into Google Maps
[09:17]	TR News	I had to explain to me German councillor that his Android phone was recording his location even if he had set that to "off"
[09:18]	TR News	All mobile phones are not privacy-respecting. It's just what such phones do. It is how they work.
[09:19]	TR News	Qatar sportswashing https://www.thenation.com/article/society/fifa-qatar-world-cup-sportswashing/ | Source: The Nation
[09:19]	TR Bot	 The Tragic Absurdity of Qatars World Cup Sportswashing | The Nation
[09:20]	TR News	Corporations still from taxpayers under the guise of "defence" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/pentagon-defense-department-budget/ | Source: The Nation http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[09:20]	TR Bot	 The Pentagon Gets More Money, and Americans Pay the Price | The Nation
[09:20]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[09:22]	TR News	Old: "The Mare Crisium Soviet Socialist Regency (or "the Soviet" for short) is a public access OpenBSD server offering shell accounts, Gopher hosting and Gemini hosting to a maximum of 48 users." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/a-new-circumlunar-colony.gmi
[09:22]	TR News	"with part of this being moving toward an "offline first" mode of computing, where I connect to the internet only when I need to for as long as I need to to accomplish some specific task." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/progress-toward-offline-first.gmi
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[09:25]	TR News	"If youre one of those people who got into building electronics for the purpose of making music, then this Raspberry Pi RP2040-based audio DSP project by [DatanoiseTV] might be of interest." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/a-simple-rp2040-based-audio-dsp-board/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:25]	TR Bot	Simple RP2040-Based Audio DSP Board | Hackaday
[09:26]	TR News	Buzzwords salad and HYPE: "With the power of edge AI in the palm of your hand, your business will be unstoppable." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/edging-ahead-when-learning-on-the-edge/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:26]	TR Bot	Ahead When Learning On The Edge | Hackaday
[09:27]	TR News	"Twitter refused and asked a federal magistrate judge to quash Baysides subpoena." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/victory-court-rules-dmca-does-not-override-first-amendments-anonymous-speech | Source: EFF
[09:27]	TR Bot	 Victory! Court Rules That DMCA Does Not Override First Amendments Anonymous Speech Protections | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[09:28]	TR News	"Deleting posts or cancelling accounts because a government official or agency requested or required itjust like spying on peoples communications on behalf of the government" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/when-jawboning-creates-private-liability | Source: EFF
[09:28]	TR Bot	 When Jawboning Creates Private Liability | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[09:28]	TR News	Assange https://truthout.org/articles/julian-assange-is-enduring-unbearable-persecution-for-exposing-us-war-crimes/ | Source: TruthOut
[09:28]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange Is Enduring Unbearable Persecution for Exposing US War Crimes
[09:28]	matey	apart from being github-based, one of the things i really loathe about pygame falls into the category of "fuck users, whatever"
[09:29]	TR News	"It appears all but inevitable that Julian Assange will be receiving an all-expenses-paid (except for his defense!) one-way trip" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/uk-approves-extradition-of-julian-assange-allowing-the-us-government-to-continue-criminalizing-journalism/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:29]	TR Bot	Approves Extradition Of Julian Assange, Allowing The US Government To Continue Criminalizing Journalism | Techdirt
[09:29]	matey	and note that i chose pygame originally for its user-friendliness, its just a wrapper for sdl 
[09:29]	schestowitz_TR	matey: pygame and python
[09:29]	matey	pygame implies python
[09:29]	schestowitz_TR	a lot of python stuff surrendered
[09:29]	schestowitz_TR	the founder went to work for the criminals
[09:29]	matey	well i dont bother with python 3
[09:29]	matey	thats the google/microsoft/less-basic-like version
[09:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:30]	matey	pypy2 is still maintained
[09:30]	matey	and has all the python features i need
[09:30]	matey	it isnt even github based
[09:30]	schestowitz_TR	it won't last forever
[09:30]	matey	i dont think you understand pypy2
[09:30]	schestowitz_TR	to "east the migration" they let people run both in tandem fir now
[09:30]	schestowitz_TR	*ease
[09:30]	matey	it isnt from the same people 
[09:31]	matey	it isnt for the same purpose
[09:31]	matey	pypy2 has about as much to do with cpython as mate has to do with gnome
[09:31]	matey	anyway
[09:31]	matey	pygame
[09:31]	TR News	More surveillance https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/06/21/european-court-ruling-on-air-travel-surveillance/ | Source: Papers Please
[09:31]	TR Bot	 European Court ruling on air travel surveillance Papers, Please!
[09:32]	matey	at one point someone decided it would be cute for pygame to put a little message about itself on stdout
[09:32]	matey	its a graphical window
[09:32]	TR News	"The U.S. Copyright Claims Board has been live for a few days and thus far 19 cases have been filed." https://torrentfreak.com/paris-hilton-is-one-of-the-first-defendants-at-the-small-copyright-claims-board-220621/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[09:32]	TR Bot	Hilton is One of the First Defendants at the 'Small' Copyright Claims Board * TorrentFreak
[09:32]	TR News	"Manga publisher Shueisha is running a survey on its MANGA Plus service." https://torrentfreak.com/manga-plus-invites-users-to-confess-piracy-name-most-used-pirate-sites-220621/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[09:32]	matey	so they figured that stdout wasnt something the user cared about
[09:32]	TR Bot	Plus Invites Users to Confess Piracy & Name Most-Used Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
[09:32]	matey	well heres the thing, even if you use pygame for graphical output
[09:32]	matey	you dont need pygame announcing itself on stdout
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	python2 will die
[09:33]	matey	some of us are still useing stdout for other program features
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	sooner than python 3
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	and maybe before python4+
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	because software sucks
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	and they move too fast
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	look what happend to kde
[09:33]	matey	cobol is still around
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	qt "upgraded" and many kde applications no longer maintained simply ceased to exist
[09:33]	matey	one of the things that really fucks me off about python 3
[09:33]	schestowitz_TR	cobol is from another era
[09:33]	matey	is the fanboy cult pretended python 2 users dont exist
[09:33]	matey	they do
[09:34]	matey	so is python 2
[09:34]	matey	python 3 has been around for fucking AGES
[09:34]	schestowitz_TR	one when laptops' expected lifetime was not 2 years... heck, they had no proper laptop back then
[09:34]	schestowitz_TR	computers turned into "gadgets"
[09:34]	matey	anyway, they pretended python 2 users dont exist
[09:35]	matey	i stopped using systemd (after about a week, maybe less!) in 2014
[09:35]	matey	nearly EIGHT years ago
[09:35]	schestowitz_TR	they should be like gemini
[09:35]	schestowitz_TR	make a simple spec
[09:35]	matey	python 3 has been around longer than that
[09:35]	schestowitz_TR	leave it frozen for good
[09:35]	matey	 make a simple spec <- done
[09:35]	matey	leave it frozen for good <- done
[09:35]	schestowitz_TR	maybe the occasional bug fix or removing an ambuguity
[09:35]	matey	 maybe the occasional bug fix or removing an ambuguity <- done
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	afaik, gemini has been the same all these years
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	and you can expect it to be the same i 10 years
[09:36]	matey	well yeah, simplicity is a goal
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	so clients and servers do not necessitate "upgrades"
[09:36]	matey	as is stability
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	it's putting huge burden on developers
[09:36]	matey	so the pygame decision fucks with existing programs
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	to keep up with "new" crap
[09:36]	schestowitz_TR	where the cost of keeping up is high
[09:36]	matey	and their attitude about it is very familiar to init freedom people
[09:37]	schestowitz_TR	and the benefit of the new stuff is vanishingly small
[09:37]	matey	well heres the thing
[09:37]	matey	IF you care about software freedom
[09:37]	schestowitz_TR	like a curve that moves downward and nearly flattens
[09:37]	matey	then corporations constantly hijacking and fucking up software probably pisses you off
[09:37]	schestowitz_TR	asymptotic? 
[09:38]	matey	and fighting that is PART OF free software https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html
[09:38]	TR Bot	 ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	not all corporations do this
[09:38]	matey	irrelevant
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	that leads them to "technical debt"
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	and then they cannot keep up with their own stuff
[09:38]	matey	most corporations profit rom technical debt
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	happend a lot at Microsoft
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	they sank under the weight of their own pigs
[09:38]	matey	so they found new pigs
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[09:38]	matey	thats what these companies do
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	not necessarilyt
[09:38]	schestowitz_TR	they create "IP stickiness" -Microsoft
[09:39]	schestowitz_TR	otherwise people jump ship
[09:39]	matey	ibm has spent more than a century exploiting whatever it gets its hands on
[09:39]	schestowitz_TR	to avoid that debt
[09:39]	matey	milk it, slaughter it, buy new shit
[09:39]	matey	they create "IP stickiness" -Microsof <- i still have that pdf
[09:39]	matey	anyway, pygame were predictably dicks about the whole thing
[09:39]	schestowitz_TR	yes, because it's hard to find
[09:39]	matey	i do have a program that removes the message
[09:39]	schestowitz_TR	Microsoft tries to hide that
[09:39]	matey	but since pyython isnt compiled
[09:40]	matey	the fix only works for people who bother running it
[09:40]	matey	and most people dont want to MODIFY their python installation
[09:40]	matey	they just want to run code on it
[09:40]	matey	so its a really obnoxious move from the pygame devs
[09:40]	matey	serves no purpose
[09:40]	matey	breaks shit
[09:40]	matey	these days i rarely use pygame 
[09:40]	matey	even the code i have that uses pgame
[09:40]	matey	i rarely use that
[09:41]	matey	i removed pygame support from the project i use the most
[09:41]	matey	and now the two projects i use the most dont include it
[09:41]	matey	i do graphics with xterm now. shit you not.
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[09:41]	matey	obviously i mostly do graphics for fun
[09:41]	schestowitz_TR	<techrights-news> "Here at Enterprising Enterprise, we love technology, but were also pushing it hard, constantly trying to expand the frontier of whats possible." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/from-apples-to-pears
[09:41]	TR Bot	 from apples to pears
[09:41]	schestowitz_TR	matey: ^ new
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[09:41]	schestowitz_TR	from python 2 to 3
[09:41]	matey	(you can get the font down to 1x1 px)
[09:41]	fuzzy	just today, synced latest gentoo tree, missed 18month already, hacking other things instead
[09:42]	fuzzy	it is probably not bad intentions of gentoo devs
[09:42]	matey	matey: ^ new <- you can post that link separately or give it 5 minutes to show up in the scrollback
[09:42]	matey	ill have it either way
[09:43]	fuzzy	nonetheless, maintaining old packages (with a clean and minimal dependency graph), becomes increasingly difficult, because of breakag of the packaging/build-system
[09:43]	matey	/me doesnt get the bot links by default
[09:43]	fuzzy	without excessive dirty hacks, i couldn't keep some older compiler/binutils, and many other things
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[09:45]	fuzzy	and it is some indirect forced upgrades introduced by this
[09:45]	fuzzy	libraries which otherwise remained clean concerning c++, all of the sudden need it, because of cmake or any other change like this
[09:46]	matey	 "Here at Enterprising Enterprise, we love technology, but were also pushing it hard, constantly trying to expand the frontier of whats possible." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/from-apples-to-pears
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[09:46]	matey	i presume this is what  matey: ^ new is about
[09:48]	matey	i mean hes ranting about the same thing i am here
[09:48]	matey	pears arent apples
[09:48]	matey	DEAL WITH IT
[09:48]	matey	FSF ISNT ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE ANYMORE
[09:48]	matey	DEAL WITH IT
[09:48]	matey	/me takes off gnus sunglasses and throws them in a volcano
[09:49]	matey	theres enough fake there already
[09:49]	fuzzy	lol... sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles ... what is this
[09:49]	matey	kill it with fire, fuzzy
[09:49]	fuzzy	in the latest gentoo tree, this enforces systemd clutter all of the sudden on latest git HEAD
[09:50]	matey	anyway
[09:50]	fuzzy	i cannot remove gentoo tooling easily, that's the problem
[09:50]	matey	the trend youre not onto yet roy
[09:50]	matey	is the efforts to actually fight this bullshit
[09:50]	matey	sure youll mention them in links or something
[09:51]	fuzzy	even if, i manage to compile the entire package set, synching against upstream will be a nightmare, if i cannot rely on gentoo
[09:51]	matey	alongside non-free stuff and whatever else you think is news-worthy in there
[09:51]	matey	but its the only free-software story left
[09:51]	matey	people fighting against the bullshit
[09:51]	matey	thats all thats left of the movement, and admittedly. its fucking scarce
[09:51]	schestowitz_TR	<matey> FSF ISNT ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE ANYMORE
[09:52]	schestowitz_TR	there's more to it than this
[09:52]	matey	no, there isnt.
[09:52]	matey	you would like there to be
[09:52]	schestowitz_TR	as threats proliferate 
[09:52]	fuzzy	and with gentoo, keeping the profile _clean_ becomes increasingly difficult, although the stunts necessary to hack back into support for a free GNU compiler (4.7) is at the edge already of what is possible, and it is
[09:52]	schestowitz_TR	even if we had software freedom, the other creeping issue would still restrict freedom
[09:52]	matey	free software still (barely) exists
[09:52]	schestowitz_TR	inc. the hardware and the network
[09:52]	matey	but the fsf hasnt care about it in forever
[09:52]	matey	lieplanet doesnt care about it either
[09:52]	matey	guix doesnt care about it either
[09:53]	matey	if youre going to conflate the people faking it and destroying it and co-opting it
[09:53]	matey	with the few left who are actually fighting it
[09:53]	matey	i mean, thats what made all this treachery possible in the first place
[09:53]	matey	thats the open source marching song-- conflate bullshit with the real thing
[09:53]	matey	the bullshit needs to be on one side
[09:53]	fuzzy	there is rarely any clean linux distribution remaining, the only other one i knew is oasis linux, and i couldn't review this one yet
[09:53]	matey	the real thing needs to be on the other sides
[09:54]	matey	thats the REAL story
[09:54]	matey	the rest is marketing and takeover
[09:54]	matey	and if you cant tell the difference, youre working for the wrong side
[09:54]	matey	the formerly libre, openly sleazy software side
[09:54]	matey	at any rate, there IS a side still fighting
[09:54]	matey	small and growing in numbers
[09:55]	matey	if you dont tell that story, if you downplay the coup and conflate bs with the restistance
[09:55]	matey	someone else will get the story right
[09:55]	matey	youd only be doing it to yourself
[09:55]	TR News	Links 22/06/2022: Microsofts Very Long Downtimes and Games Ported to GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/microsoft-very-long-downtimes/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/microsoft-very-long-downtimes/
[09:55]	TR Bot	 Links 22/06/2022: Microsofts Very Long Downtimes and Games Ported to GNU/Linux | Techrights
[09:55]	matey	but it does help the baddies
[09:56]	matey	youd basically be helping the occupation
[09:56]	TR News	Proprietary Failures Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166331
[09:56]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Failures | Tux Machines
[09:56]	matey	psarticularly when you have the resources to know better
[09:56]	TR News	Programming and Tinkering Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166332
[09:56]	matey	ill be telling the real story either way
[09:56]	matey	so
[09:56]	TR Bot	 Programming and Tinkering | Tux Machines
[09:56]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166333
[09:56]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:56]	matey	you do you
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	<matey> if you dont tell that story, if you downplay the coup and conflate bs with the restistance
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	would you rather theby lied down?
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	belly-up?
[09:57]	matey	what are you asking?
[09:57]	matey	who?
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	this coup is very old
[09:57]	matey	so is microsoft
[09:57]	matey	so is ibm
[09:57]	matey	so what?
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	separate issue
[09:57]	matey	theyre very active
[09:57]	schestowitz_TR	the court ~= fsf
[09:58]	matey	the fsf is done
[09:58]	schestowitz_TR	*coup
[09:58]	matey	done, dead, meaningless
[09:58]	matey	sold out
[09:58]	matey	they have nothing
[09:58]	matey	they DO nothing
[09:58]	schestowitz_TR	the was already a coup in the 90s
[09:58]	schestowitz_TR	the media called gnu "linux"
[09:58]	matey	that was kid stuff
[09:58]	schestowitz_TR	and then in 1998 they 'invented' a competing camp
[09:58]	matey	theres a difference between an attempt on something and an actual fall
[09:59]	matey	this was an actual fall
[09:59]	matey	the stuff in the 90s wasnt
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	fsf is up against regimes that spend trillions on "defense"
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	what did you expect?
[09:59]	matey	you have a problem with differences
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	fsf to "take over the world"?
[09:59]	matey	what did you expect? <- EFFORT
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	there would be resistance to them
[09:59]	matey	ive looked
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	that's expected
[09:59]	matey	its not there.
[09:59]	matey	no
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	see how quickly wikileak was put down
[09:59]	matey	this is why its a stupid question
[09:59]	schestowitz_TR	assange has been de facto arrested within 4 years of wikileaks being founded
[09:59]	matey	would you rather theby lied down? <- THATS WHAT THEY DID!
● Jun 22
[10:00]	matey	they dont fight
[10:00]	matey	they even tell other people not to fight
[10:00]	fuzzy	i don't think it is possible for anyone else to catch up with the completeness of my c-only profile anymore
[10:00]	matey	then YOU tell people to fight
[10:00]	matey	i don't think it is possible for anyone else to catch up <- of course it is
[10:00]	matey	you arent inventing cold fusion over there
[10:01]	matey	but in fairness, its UNLIKELY. just not impossible
[10:01]	fuzzy	within the gentoo tree, there is too much hacks and clutter, which requires alot of time and testing and detailed insight, which rarely anyone had
[10:01]	matey	which rarely anyone had <- thats still a far cry from impossible
[10:01]	fuzzy	either you end up with outdated and or incomplete package set, or it won't be c-only, except for mine
[10:01]	matey	ill give you unlikely
[10:02]	matey	then YOU tell people to fight <- damned typos
[10:02]	fuzzy	another one caught... jpeg-9c (c-only) removed from gentoo tree, only libjpeg-turbo now... c++
[10:02]	matey	then YOU tell people to NOT to fight
[10:02]	TR News	GNU/Linux has taken over but not the way many of us advocates envisioned it ("clown", Android etc.)
[10:02]	fuzzy	gentoo invested efforts, into maintenance of different jpeg libs... and now removed the good one
[10:02]	TR News	brands distract from goals and concepts
[10:03]	TR News	Richard Stallman: Freedom is the Goal (Updated) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/
[10:03]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallman: Freedom is the Goal (Updated) | Techrights
[10:03]	matey	anyway
[10:03]	matey	the point youre still working hard to miss is
[10:03]	matey	there IS an actual fight
[10:03]	matey	its not happening at the fsf, because the fsf doesnt exist
[10:03]	matey	its a the non-profit equivalent of a shell corporation now
[10:03]	matey	and being liquidated year by year
[10:03]	matey	as ibm extracts gcc from it
[10:03]	schestowitz_TR	I told RMS about LF
[10:04]	matey	and gnu becomes dead
[10:04]	schestowitz_TR	he does not eant to speak about it himse
[10:04]	matey	I told RMS about LF <- rms doesnt exist anymore either
[10:04]	schestowitz_TR	they paralysed that movement
[10:04]	schestowitz_TR	a fear of backlash
[10:04]	matey	http://web.archive.org/web/20211027055047/http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/ <- this was true
[10:04]	TR Bot	 The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights
[10:04]	matey	still is true
[10:04]	schestowitz_TR	and some people work hard to self-censor or censor those who STILL speak about the issues
[10:04]	matey	http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/
[10:04]	TR Bot	 The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights
[10:04]	matey	and some people work hard to self-censor or censor those who STILL speak about the issues <- thats the occupation at work
[10:04]	matey	the fsf just lays down
[10:05]	matey	thats why its a farce
[10:05]	fuzzy	and with c++ and cmake spreading, the entire foss locks into hostile compiler and/or versions of those
[10:05]	matey	we were pretending stallman was "back"
[10:05]	matey	hes not back
[10:05]	matey	he never will be back
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	Kooyman has said nearly nothing since becoming ED
[10:05]	matey	there is nothing to come back to
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	Greg says a bit more
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	but just a bit
[10:05]	matey	 Kooyman has said nearly nothing <- youre only proving my point
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	I see they are active in Twitter
[10:05]	matey	noise on twitter isnt fighting for freedom
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	but activism in 20-work chunks/bytes is not effecdtive
[10:05]	matey	you know you cant fight for freedom on twitter anyway, its too censored
[10:05]	schestowitz_TR	*word
[10:06]	matey	actually
[10:06]	matey	you CAN fight for SOME things on twitter
[10:06]	matey	though its not my choice of tool
[10:06]	schestowitz_TR	until the curtails come
[10:06]	schestowitz_TR	then they come after you
[10:06]	matey	i signed up when they went double-length?
[10:06]	schestowitz_TR	*curtains
[10:06]	matey	i posted once and they said it was weird that i didnt give a phone number
[10:06]	matey	oh well
[10:06]	schestowitz_TR	twitter got FINED for that
[10:07]	matey	fine
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	they used that phone number thing for spying
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	with advertisers
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	they broke the law
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	it was not to secure people's accounts
[10:07]	matey	obviously
[10:07]	matey	but this is the dance
[10:07]	matey	when theres talk about the most important shit
[10:07]	matey	it becomes a million tiny less significant tangents
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/25/twitter-user-data-advertising-settlement
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Twitter fined $150m for handing users contact details to advertisers | Twitter | The Guardian
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/twitter-phone-numbers-targeted-ads-b2087771.html
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Twitter to pay $150M penalty for using phone numbers for targeted ads | The Independent
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/25/twitter-fine-ftc/
[10:07]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/twitter-to-pay-150-million-fine-over-using-phone-numbers-for-targeted-ads/
[10:07]	matey	the occupation? oh meh, whatevers
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.adweek.com/media/ftc-doj-fine-twitter-150m-for-improper-use-of-users-phone-numbers/
[10:08]	TR Bot	 Twitter will pay $150 million fine over deceptively using data - The Washington Post
[10:08]	TR Bot	to Pay $150 Million Fine Over Using Phone Numbers for Targeted Ads - CNET
[10:08]	TR Bot	 FTC, DOJ Fine Twitter $150M for Improper Use of Users Phone Numbers
[10:08]	matey	yeah, twitters never going to be free
[10:08]	matey	anyway, this dance is fine, its old hat
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	Twitter was ALREADY losing money
[10:08]	fuzzy	flashrom... pciutils, now insist on llvm/clang... which these didn't before (can be fixed of cause)... it is a long list
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	now fines
[10:08]	matey	the fight will go on
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	and ICBM blackmailed Twitter with patents
[10:08]	matey	where things are less bullshit
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	iirc, twitter settled for 20 million
[10:08]	matey	some of it will get mentioned in links
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	over very BS SOFTWARE patents
[10:08]	matey	on irc
[10:08]	fuzzy	what if, anyone wanted to use flashrom... without the presence of llvm/clang and a c++ compiler?
[10:08]	schestowitz_TR	ICBM is a thug
[10:08]	matey	<fuzzy> what if, anyone wanted to use flashrom... without the presence of llvm/clang and a c++ compiler? <- that would be cool
[10:09]	schestowitz_TR	https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/twitter-pays-150m-fine-for-using-two-factor-login-details-to-target-ads/   https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61606476  https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2022/05/twitter-pay-150-million-penalty-allegedly-breaking-its-privacy-promises-again https://mashable.com/article/twitter-fine-elon-musk
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Twitter pays $150M fine for using two-factor login details to target ads | Ars Technica
[10:09]	TR Bot	fined $150m in US for selling users' data - BBC News
[10:09]	fuzzy	matey: cool?
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Twitter to pay $150 million penalty for allegedly breaking its privacy promises again | Federal Trade Commission
[10:09]	TR Bot	pays $150 million fine over privacy and Elon Musk has thoughts | Mashable
[10:09]	matey	yes, if they could do that
[10:09]	matey	without all that bloated shit
[10:09]	matey	you said "what if"
[10:09]	matey	i said "that would be cool"
[10:09]	fuzzy	basic system utilities build up dependency chains against corporate bloat increasingly
[10:09]	matey	yeah to be fair
[10:10]	matey	youre talking about utilities to mess with an architecture no one wants anymore
[10:10]	fuzzy	even basic ones such as flashrom... haven't got any reasonable explanation, why this realm of embedded software should lock into apple/llvm/clang
[10:10]	matey	no one WANTS x86
[10:10]	matey	theyre just stuck with it for now
[10:10]	matey	x86 IS bloat
[10:10]	fuzzy	pciutils, to be precise
[10:10]	matey	the utilities also suck
[10:10]	matey	pciutils <- pci is x86 afaik
[10:10]	matey	is there pci for arm too?
[10:10]	matey	oh of course there is, there must be
[10:10]	matey	/me shrugs
[10:11]	fuzzy	and there is no easy way back, once a package created a dependency chain, it remains
[10:11]	matey	but the flashrom part
[10:11]	matey	thats x86, its got to be
[10:11]	mjg59_	matey: pci was never x86 only
[10:11]	matey	and there is no easy way back <- not "back"
[10:11]	matey	out
[10:11]	matey	 <mjg59_> matey: pci was never x86 only <- makes sense
[10:11]	matey	not a hardware guy
[10:11]	matey	i mean, i get bits and pieces
[10:11]	mjg59_	It displaced pretty much every other expansion bus by the late 90s
[10:11]	fuzzy	if a new version of pciutils and/or flashrom are required for some new bios chip, either hacky backporting is necessary, or all of the sudden apple/llvm/clang are required
[10:11]	mjg59_	flashrom's pretty platform agnostic
[10:11]	matey	except new shit and occasional graphics stuff
[10:11]	fuzzy	which it wasn't for decades before, with flashrom
[10:11]	matey	plus industrial peripherals, maye
[10:11]	mjg59_	There are some bits that are x86-specific, because the hardware it's talking to may be x86-specific
[10:12]	matey	sometimes you see weird bus shit
[10:12]	mjg59_	But the generic interfaces it supports aren't tied to any CPU
[10:12]	matey	yeah
[10:12]	matey	as soon as i said it i was like
[10:12]	matey	"no, that cant be right"
[10:12]	matey	but it started with talk of flashrom
[10:12]	matey	and even if hes saying pciutils
[10:13]	matey	the flashrom stuff has to be x86-specific
[10:13]	matey	arm would have its own, surely
[10:14]	fuzzy	the cmake/c++ spreading is a rather innovative approach, to lock into vendors and compilers/versions of those
[10:14]	fuzzy	and there isn't any other recent distribution anymore, which contained an mplayer, libsdl1, and remained c-only
[10:14]	fuzzy	for compilation with cproc/tinycc, or any other sane c-compiler
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[10:15]	matey	at any rate the idea that some guy with gentoo build can create a c-only distro
[10:15]	matey	but that python 2 cant be maintained by a similar workforce
[10:16]	matey	is silly
[10:16]	matey	python 2 is about as much trouble to maintain as pale moon
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[10:16]	matey	you just patch vulnerabilities
[10:16]	matey	and if you want to do one better
[10:16]	fuzzy	i am planning for something else, to remove python entirely from the base system and the build system (and with it remove gentoo tooling entirely)
[10:16]	fuzzy	and then, anyone may choose to pick any python/pypy freely
[10:16]	matey	i am planning for something else, to remove python entirely <- not useful to me or anyone who wants to use python
[10:17]	matey	and then, anyone may choose to pick any python/pypy freely <- of course
[10:17]	fuzzy	while ago i tried to bootstrap pypy... wasn't possible without a huge binary blob
[10:17]	matey	well you had the same problem with gcc and llvm too
[10:18]	matey	so i cant imagine why that wouldnt apply to higher abstractions
[10:18]	fuzzy	nothing wrong with python, yet i think it doesn't belong into the base-system as build-time dependency anywhere
[10:18]	matey	i mean, get-pip also has a giant blob in it
[10:18]	matey	but you can also get the source that builds that blob
[10:18]	fuzzy	yes, with gcc the problem still exists, at least tcc is known to compile gcc-4.7
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[10:18]	matey	yet i think it doesn't belong into the base-system <- de raadt would agree with you
[10:18]	matey	even i might agree it doesnt belong in the base system
[10:19]	matey	and i think for something as important as openbsd or debian... package management probably shouldnt REQUIRE it either
[10:19]	matey	apt i believe, requires python
[10:20]	matey	but it can at least bootstrap its own installation without it, i think
[10:20]	matey	im not sure at what level its actually required, only that it gets pulled in as a dep
[10:20]	matey	and if you try to remove python, debian treats it as base
[10:20]	matey	since python 3 is microgoogle, and debian treats it as base
[10:21]	fuzzy	with gentoo, exherbo re-implemented a portage-utility (for good reasons)... in C++
[10:21]	matey	maybe we should call it ibmmicrodebian
[10:21]	matey	but i already settled on "debiibm"
[10:21]	matey	debibm rather
[10:21]	matey	all these projects have become shrines to corporate takeover
[10:22]	matey	the techrights treatment is not unlike hagbard celines card that says "red" in green letters
[10:23]	matey	but if you hold it another way it says "green" in red letters
[10:24]	matey	the way you make such a card is by interlacing both images |||||||||||||||||||||
[10:24]	matey	then putting a plastic layer of little lenses over that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[10:24]	matey	if you tilt it one way, you see the first image
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[10:24]	matey	tilt it the other, it changes
[10:25]	matey	you can get stickers like this but you can also make them, if you can figure out how to do the plastic part anyway 
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[10:27]	matey	the cheaper way to do the same optical effect is is to just folder paper accordion-style /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
[10:27]	matey	and draw the first image on the / / / / / / / / / and the second image on the \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ 
[10:27]	matey	then you dont need the lenses
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[10:31]	SomeH4x0r	do we have a bridge now?
[10:31]	matey	someone made a bridge
[10:31]	matey	i havent paid much attention to it, but ive seen it
[10:32]	SomeH4x0r	is Solanum.repl an IRC server?
[10:32]	matey	those are the details i have, other than it was like in the past 24 hours
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[11:02]	TR News	"When you want a couple copies of a thing, you can 3D print em. When you want a ton of them, you might consider making a mold." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/casting-parts-in-urethane-tips-from-a-master/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:02]	TR Bot	Parts In Urethane: Tips From A Master | Hackaday
[11:02]	TR News	"a lot of modern stereo equipment is still missing out on some of the old analog meters" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/teensy-spectrum-analyzer-has-170-channels/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:02]	TR Bot	Spectrum Analyzer Has 170 Channels | Hackaday
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[11:03]	TR News	Chafa - terminal graphics image viewer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166334
[11:03]	TR Bot	 Chafa - terminal graphics image viewer | Tux Machines
[11:04]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166335
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:06]	TR News	Corporations eat up everything https://truthout.org/articles/dont-let-corporations-profit-from-our-inflation-pain/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Don't Let Corporations Profit From Our Inflation Pain
[11:06]	TR News	Tax evaders, never imprisoned for it https://truthout.org/articles/a-tiktok-investor-has-avoided-1-billion-in-taxes-now-hes-a-gop-megadonor/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:06]	TR Bot	 A TikTok Investor Has Avoided $1 Billion in Taxes. Now Hes a GOP Megadonor.
[11:07]	TR News	Corporate Profits https://truthout.org/articles/corporate-profits-soared-to-highest-levels-in-7-decades-last-year/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:07]	TR Bot	 Corporate Profits Soared to Highest Levels in 7 Decades Last Year
[11:07]	TR News	"Cops love secrecy" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/appeals-court-tells-police-union-its-contract-doesnt-supersede-state-public-records-laws/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:07]	TR Bot	Court Tells Police Union Its Contract Doesnt Supersede State Public Records Laws | Techdirt
[11:08]	TR News	"If youve ever thought about 3D printing shoes, youll enjoy watching the video" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/inside-3d-printing-shoes/ | Source: Hackaday
[11:08]	TR Bot	3D Printing Shoes | Hackaday
[11:09]	TR News	"Today you will find microcontrollers in your car" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/plastic-cpus-will-bend-to-your-will/ | Source: Hackaday http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/
[11:09]	TR Bot	CPUs Will Bend To Your Will | Hackaday
[11:09]	TR Bot	 Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights
[11:12]	TR News	Techrights joined freenode around the time it had 50k users online https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode
[11:12]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:13]	TR News	At over 500 (threshold >50 online users) IRC now has more networks out there than it has had in years https://netsplit.de/networks/
[11:13]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:15]	TR News	The w3.org IRC network continues too grow. WWW is becoming a bloated pig, maybe they'll take a lesson from IRC. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=w3.org
[11:15]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:17]	TR News	IRC will likely benefit from the demise of Freenode. It will mean more pertinent (smaller) networks. NordicIRC peaked around 5 years ago, but many networks are in fact growing https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=NordicIRC
[11:17]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:20]	TR News	As Turkey moves to GNU/Linux it also gets its own (new) IRC networks, which grow fast, e.g. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=TRNet
[11:20]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:21]	TR News	We don't need to CREATE alternatives to social control media. They were already created in the 1980s. We just need to DEPLOY more of them.
[11:22]	TR News	Debian-Based Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 Disk Imaging/Cloning Tool Released with Linux 5.18 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166336
[11:22]	TR Bot	 Debian-Based Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 Disk Imaging/Cloning Tool Released with Linux 5.18 | Tux Machines
[11:22]	TR News	TraceRoute42 https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/interview-with-michal-kasprzak-traceroute42/ | Source: PIA
[11:22]	TR Bot	 Interview With Micha Kasprzak TraceRoute42
[11:23]	TR News	Taxing the Rich https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/21/taxing-the-rich-to-boost-social-security/ | Source: Scheerpost
[11:23]	TR Bot	the Rich to Boost Social Security scheerpost.com
[11:23]	TR News	"Fight Poverty, Not the Poor!" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/21/fight-poverty-not-the-poor-thousands-rally-in-washington-dc/ | Source: Scheerpost
[11:23]	TR Bot	Poverty, Not the Poor!: Thousands Rally in Washington DC scheerpost.com
[11:24]	TR News	"A few years ago the Trump DOJ and FCCrubber-stampedthe Sprint T-Mobile merger without heeding expert warnings" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/dishs-new-5g-network-created-by-trump-regulators-to-justify-rubber-stamping-t-mobile-merger-looks-like-a-silly-dud/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:24]	TR Bot	New 5G Network, Created By Trump Regulators To Justify Rubber Stamping T-Mobile Merger, Looks Like A Silly Dud | Techdirt
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[11:50]	TR News	"Universal school lunches have been a lifeline for families, especially as corporations price-gouge at the grocery store." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/21/free-school-meal-waivers-set-expire-senate-pushes-857-billion-military-budget | Source: Common Dreams
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Free School Meal Waivers Set to Expire as Senate Pushes $857 Billion Military Budget
[11:50]	TR News	"A new paper published Tuesday shows that U.S. corporate price markups and profits surged to their highest levels since the 1950s" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/21/study-shows-excess-corporate-profits-us-have-become-widespread | Source: Common Dreams
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Study Shows Excess Corporate Profits in the US Have Become 'Widespread'
[11:53]	TR News	"My Body, My Data" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/pass-my-body-my-data-act | Source: EFF
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Pass the "My Body, My Data" Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:53]	TR News	2FA bullshit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/daycare-apps-are-dangerously-insecure | Source: EFF
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Daycare Apps Are Dangerously Insecure | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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[12:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:31]	schestowitz_TR	ciphrCat: no more declownflare?
[12:31]	schestowitz_TR	in irc?
[12:32]	SomeH4x0r	iirc the link bot did disappear a few months ago
[12:32]	SomeH4x0r	can't remember why though
[12:32]	schestowitz_TR	yeah
[12:51]	TR News	Twitter and copyright https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/twitter-successfully-quashes-sketchy-copyright-subpoena-over-billionaires-critic-on-twitter/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:51]	TR Bot	Successfully Quashes Sketchy Copyright Subpoena Over Billionaires Critic On Twitter | Techdirt
[12:51]	TR News	"antitrust bill" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/senators-ask-amy-klobuchar-to-fix-the-content-moderation-loophole-in-her-antitrust-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:51]	TR Bot	Ask Amy Klobuchar To Fix The Content Moderation Loophole In Her Antitrust Bill | Techdirt
[12:56]	TR News	CoreCivic and social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/giant-private-prison-company-goes-to-court-to-try-to-get-lawyer-to-stop-tweeting-about-them/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:56]	TR Bot	Private Prison Company Goes To Court To Try To Get Lawyer To Stop Tweeting About Them | Techdirt
[12:57]	TR News	ICBM and FSFE really wanted me to stop "tweeting" about them. 1) http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ 2) http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/
[12:57]	TR Bot	 Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights
[12:57]	TR Bot	 FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights
[12:57]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252459
[12:57]	TR Bot	 Ukrainian journalist Maksim Levin killed by Russian military, RSF reports
[12:57]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/22/estonian-defence-ministry-russia-simulated-missile-strikes-on-estonia-during-exercises-news "Estonian Defence Ministry: Russia simulated missile strikes on Estonia during exercises"
[12:57]	TR Bot	 . 
[12:58]	schestowitz_TR	XRevan86: estonia might fire back
[12:58]	schestowitz_TR	near you
[12:58]	schestowitz_TR	they won't take shit from peter II (putin)
[12:58]	schestowitz_TR	and they're in the EU
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[13:07]	TR News	Firefox and its descendants/dependents will be almost extinct in a few years. The WWW is becoming proprietary with DRM on top.
[13:08]	TR News	W3C is to the WWW what ISO is to document standards http://techrights.org/wiki/ISO
[13:08]	TR Bot	 ISO - Techrights
[13:10]	TR News	"Content moderation at scale is impossible to do well says my impossibility theorem." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/impossibility-theorem-strikes-again-youtube-deletes-january-6th-committee-video/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:10]	TR Bot	Theorem Strikes Again: YouTube Deletes January 6th Committee Video | Techdirt
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[13:52]	SomeH4x0r	matey: a person on #digdeeper on Stardust, having nickname fuckpilled, said to also have dropped GNU/Linux in favour of BSD or something
[13:53]	matey	lol
[13:53]	matey	its an increasingly common thing
[13:53]	matey	when debian was at its best
[13:53]	matey	it was a collection of tools that didnt try to take over everything
[13:53]	matey	if you didnt like it, you didnt have to run it
[13:54]	matey	i mean the tool, not either/or the whole damned thing
[13:54]	matey	not only did you not have to run it, you could just remove it
[13:54]	matey	its less and less like that now, with so many things
[13:54]	matey	openbsd at least, and to some degree netbsd (maybe even freebsd, but not as much) 
[13:54]	matey	bsd comes directly from unix
[13:55]	matey	gnu ran away from unix philosophy and linux shot it in the face
[13:55]	matey	gnome looted the body
[13:55]	matey	and gave everything to microsoft
[13:55]	matey	freebsd is suspect at least, but bsd in general is more like unix
[13:55]	matey	so the more bullshit gnu/penguinshit gets, the more people say "fuck this, im out"
[13:56]	matey	they want a computer that works
[13:56]	matey	they dont want to hold lennarts dick all day while he laughs at their pain
[13:56]	matey	only so ibm can have big fat wallets made of penguin hide
[13:57]	matey	something about being pushed around for 7 or 8 fucking years makes people resentful
[13:57]	matey	i dunno what it is
[13:57]	matey	lennart can eat a bag of dicks
[13:57]		*psydruid would be happy to some day find out that GNU/Linux was only popular with former Windows users and current Microsoft allies at the sell-out distribution companies
[13:57]	matey	 would be happy to some day find out that GNU/Linux was only popular with former Windows users <- lol
[13:57]	matey	whose to say we arent there already?
[13:58]	matey	/me isnt kidding
[13:58]	matey	debian is gnome
[13:58]	matey	gnome is windows
[13:59]	matey	wannabe windows
[13:59]	matey	why anyone would wanna be windows... but there it is
● Jun 22
[14:00]	matey	and then for simulating android fuckery you have flatpak and the nonsense that runs on top of
[14:00]	matey	yo dawg we herd you like shit
[14:00]	matey	so we put shit in your shit so you an crAPP while you crAPP
[14:01]	psydruid	GNU/Linux and much of free software already operate in the Microsoft sphere
[14:01]	matey	open source has been sucking off microsoft for long enough to have a kid and get them into college
[14:01]	psydruid	I would say let them carry the entire burden of developing and maintaining it for who knows what purpose
[14:01]	TR News	"The formula scarcity began when the COVID-19 pandemic led to a disruption of ingredient supply chains" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/how-corporate-food-monopolies-caused-the-baby-formula-scanda/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:01]	TR Bot	Corporate Food Monopolies Caused the Baby Formula Scandal - CounterPunch.org
[14:02]	TR News	Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/free-assange-yes-but-thats-not-nearly-enough/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:02]	TR Bot	Assange? Yes, But That's Not Nearly Enough - CounterPunch.org
[14:02]	matey	what did they think was going to result, if not more or less exactly this?
[14:02]	matey	this is what they wanted
[14:02]	matey	this is what it got
[14:03]	matey	so the original free software was a good thing
[14:03]	TR News	Bill Gates and fellow criminals pushing patents https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/21/alliance-green-revolution-africa-hurting-farmers-not-helping | Source: Common Dreams
[14:03]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa Is Hurting Farmers, Not Helping | Francesca de Gasparis
[14:03]	matey	it was a little naive-- but not stupid
[14:03]	matey	i really do mean a little
[14:03]	matey	as in only
[14:04]	matey	over time it got suckered more and more
[14:04]	matey	that was the plan
[14:04]	fuzzy	exactly, a modern graphical desktop resembles what windows blesses consumers with
[14:04]	matey	not for free software, for the counterrevolution
[14:04]	fuzzy	by design
[14:04]	matey	thats how counterrevolutions work
[14:04]	fuzzy	which is flawed
[14:04]	psydruid	I'm wondering if they will go and ruin BSD after ruining GNU/Linux
[14:05]	fuzzy	^ llvm/clang
[14:05]	matey	I'm wondering if they will go and ruin BSD after ruining GNU/Linux <- thats what roy thinks
[14:05]	matey	he thinks theres no point in bsd because theyll just fuck that too
[14:05]	matey	and hes partly right
[14:05]	psydruid	Is anything ever going to be resistant to these corporate tentacles
[14:05]	TR News	"small acts of protest, the reactions he gets from his neighbors, and whether hes afraid there might be criminal prosecution in his future" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/21/my-neighbors-fully-support-me | Source: Meduza
[14:05]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[14:05]	matey	theyve already fucked bsd, thats what freebsd is
[14:05]	matey	 Is anything ever going to be resistant <- i think so
[14:05]	matey	what i was saying about free software in general was
[14:05]	matey	each revolution is a lesson
[14:05]	matey	an important lesson
[14:06]	matey	the history is very fucking important
[14:06]	fuzzy	anyone knows, if/how much autotools voodoo is contained inside *BSD (without additional ports)
[14:06]	matey	its our textbook
[14:06]	fuzzy	or, do *BSD at least avoid the autotools ?
[14:06]	matey	anyone knows, if/how much autotools voodoo is contained inside *BSD <- your worry is unfounded
[14:06]	matey	i mean 
[14:06]	matey	if you want a sane build system
[14:06]	matey	gentoo wasnt the first
[14:06]	matey	/me doesnt personally like gentoo but respects what theyve done
[14:07]	fuzzy	autotools are not directly related to the ports/portage system
[14:07]	matey	exactly
[14:07]	matey	anyway
[14:07]		*psydruid doesn't like gentoo or its "developers"
[14:07]	matey	free software will, as ive been saying for some time now
[14:07]	matey	i dont just mean today
[14:07]	matey	split off into two directions
[14:07]	fuzzy	and gentoo portage simply is the most powerful dependency tracking system, and well maintained too
[14:07]	matey	the bulk of it, which has been infected with osbs (open source bullshit) for ages
[14:08]	matey	will fuck off and join the corporate mothership
[14:08]	matey	its already happened
[14:08]	matey	it will continue to do so
[14:08]	matey	the rest will flee this dumpster fire
[14:08]	matey	some will stay just close enough to it to stay warm
[14:08]	matey	others have had enough
[14:09]	fuzzy	at the heart and core of it, gentoo followed the minimalist design rationale, and it's the default too
[14:09]	fuzzy	the metalog syslogger from gentoo, is a keeper too
[14:09]	matey	but the thing is
[14:09]	matey	the lesson was painful
[14:09]	matey	it hurt, a lot, for years
[14:09]	matey	some will bullshit and say it never happened, or people exaggerate
[14:10]	matey	or theyre being "unfair"
[14:10]	matey	its none of those
[14:10]	matey	it was well-orchestrated industrial bullshit
[14:10]	matey	and it decimated free software
[14:10]	matey	decimated
[14:10]	matey	but
[14:10]	matey	thats what free software will be rebuilt from, because thats how important it is
[14:11]	matey	and those who ACTUALLY give a shit
[14:11]	matey	rather than opportunists who ACT like they give a shit 
[14:11]	fuzzy	anyway, are you aware of any distribution which rejected the gcc-4.8 bump 2013?
[14:11]	matey	https://techrights.org/2019/06/03/act-like-a-friend/
[14:11]	TR Bot	 Microsofts Handbook: Know Your Enemies, Act Like a Friend | Techrights
[14:11]	fuzzy	i only know aboriginal linux (some success with tinycc), oasis linux (cproc), openbsd (pcc)
[14:12]	matey	those who ACTUALLY give a shit have learned the hard way
[14:12]	matey	stallman wasnt kidding
[14:12]	matey	the things he said were probelms really were problems
[14:12]	matey	hes quiet now
[14:12]	matey	but the lesson speaks for itself-- as does our history (especially since 2014, maybe earlier)
[14:12]	matey	and as roy says, it started before that
[14:12]	matey	but nothing like its been for the past 7 or 8 years
[14:12]	matey	imo
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR	it was worse
[14:13]	matey	the fsf just quit doing their job
[14:13]	matey	 <schestowitz_TR> it was wors <- absolute. bullshit.
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR	in 2006 for example
[14:13]	matey	nope
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR	I call back "bs"
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR	it was worse in 2006
[14:13]	matey	THEYRE DEAD!
[14:13]	matey	they were not dead
[14:13]	matey	how is NOT DEAD worse than fucking dead?
[14:13]	matey	stupid
[14:13]	matey	anyway
[14:13]	matey	SOME PEOPLE will learn from this
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR	I see you take disareements very gracefully
[14:14]	matey	not everyone
[14:14]	matey	some people will just go in circles forever, with no plan
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	2000: we can barely surf the web
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	2003: gains made
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	2006: vista novell deal
[14:14]	matey	things were improving, now theyre getting worse
[14:14]	matey	i mean
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	extrortion until  much later
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	alice/sec 101 2014
[14:14]	matey	you can play with words all day if you like
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR	SCOTUS
[14:15]	matey	i remember alice
[14:15]	schestowitz_TR	2014 had some good things to it
[14:15]	matey	remember alice? its a song about alice
[14:15]	schestowitz_TR	Snowden leaks 2013
[14:15]	MinceR	who the fuck is alice?
[14:15]	schestowitz_TR	it's a company
[14:15]	matey	you can get anything you want at alices restaurant (excepting alice)
[14:15]	matey	alice helped patent reform
[14:15]	matey	roy can explain it
[14:15]	schestowitz_TR	http://groklaw.net/
[14:15]	TR Bot	 Groklaw - Digging for Truth
[14:16]	matey	it was a bit of a turning point
[14:16]	schestowitz_TR	"[PJ: Ask yourself: when the Alice Corp. case was first decided, is this outcome analysts told you to expect? : D ] - Dennis Crouch, Patently O"
[14:16]	schestowitz_TR	She came from from the last hiatus just to write this
[14:16]	matey	imo most people who say "alice" are referring to the court case, which was named after the company
[14:16]	matey	and really the verdict, which was helpful to us
[14:16]	matey	so one alice is bad, but the outcome was good
[14:17]	matey	and the outcome is called alice because the company was called alice
[14:17]	matey	famous court cases are named after the parties involved
[14:17]	schestowitz_TR	Alice STILL stands
[14:17]	schestowitz_TR	after all those endless attempts to overturn it
[14:17]	matey	but those who care about users, not just image
[14:17]	schestowitz_TR	or hack around it
[14:17]	matey	will continue to fight, not just try to look good or smooth things over
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[14:18]	matey	or rewrite history for whatever reason they do that day
[14:18]	fuzzy	for practical use, there is almost nothing remaining, readily available, as free software operating system, nowadays
[14:18]	matey	bsd has TWO advantages
[14:18]	matey	1. it never became as shit, so its "ahead"
[14:18]	matey	2. it never loved bloat as much as gnu/linux/windows (maybe freebsd, i dont know)
[14:18]	matey	so its FORKABLE
[14:18]	TR News	Rare Earth https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/the-rare-earth-dilemma/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:18]	TR Bot	Rare Earth Dilemma - CounterPunch.org
[14:18]	fuzzy	the typical, bsd,debian, redhat whatnot, sell a facade of freedom
[14:18]	matey	as in people actually fork it (they dont do that with linux)
[14:19]	matey	<fuzzy> the typical, bsd,debian, redhat whatnot, sell a facade of freedom <- you lump EVERYTHING EVERYTHING together
[14:19]	fuzzy	it is a summary, of all details collected and discussed
[14:19]	matey	and you take days or weeks to do it, while ive spent years poking at such connections
[14:19]	schestowitz_TR	android partly forked the kernel
[14:19]	matey	but its good someones so sceptical
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	but as linux was not toally dead
[14:20]	matey	it gives us a glimpse of what might be ahead
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	it paid off to develop upstread
[14:20]	fuzzy	if you want your testicles squeezed by the pentagon five eyes, go for it, all *BSD, debian etc. ship everything desired
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	so gulag played with mainline
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	that can change
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	like, if linux does something very very evilk
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	LF is a force of occupation
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[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	and now it's adding rust
[14:21]	matey	 if you want your testicles squeezed by the pentagon <- if you intend to be bulletproof to state actors and apts youre going to have to more than just recompile
[14:21]	matey	start by putting everything in a faraday cage
[14:21]	matey	then detach your speakers and wifi
[14:21]	matey	i mean
[14:21]	matey	cmon
[14:21]	fuzzy	well then, hack this irc box... tell me when done.
[14:22]	matey	/me listens to what fuzzy types with a laser on a multimeter connected to housewiring
[14:22]	matey	what im saying is, if youre that serious, youre half-arsing everything
[14:23]	matey	but you dont need me to prove it, there are hardware gurus in here that know way more about it 
[14:23]	matey	at best youre working on part of the problem
[14:23]	matey	and thats great
[14:23]	matey	dont assume its more than that
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	LF is now working with snyk to smear Free software and Linux
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	LF is amazing
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	amazinglyy corroupt
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	pay them money and they will say anything
[14:24]	matey	free software doesnt even need smearing
[14:24]	matey	its nearly killed itself
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	free software is a concept
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	it cannot kill itself
[14:24]	fuzzy	i removed that much BS from my system in the last month alone, you got no idea what i've got
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	it's also a condition
[14:25]	matey	free software is a concept <- it cannot kill itself <- if that makes you feel better
[14:25]	matey	i mean
[14:25]	schestowitz_TR	fuzzy: the police can invade your home
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[14:25]	matey	if free software is a concept that cant die
[14:25]	fuzzy	schestowitz_TR: they cannot
[14:25]	matey	and thats good enough for you
[14:25]	schestowitz_TR	with "reasonable suspicion"
[14:25]	matey	they didnt need an fsf to make it a concept 
[14:25]	fuzzy	of what?
[14:25]	schestowitz_TR	fuzzy: it definitely can
[14:25]	matey	it was a concept already in the early 80s
[14:25]	matey	voila, "ITS A CONCEPT" we can go home now
[14:25]	schestowitz_TR	they are with weapons and legal powers
[14:25]	matey	so what was all that other work for
[14:25]	matey	OH
[14:25]	matey	maybe its MORE than just a concept
[14:26]	matey	but whatever
[14:26]	matey	concepts are more useful when applied
[14:26]	matey	then theyre applications (not just in the software sense, more like in the applied science sense)
[14:27]	schestowitz_TR	you suggested fs federatrion
[14:27]	matey	equality is a concept
[14:27]	matey	it CANT DIE
[14:27]	schestowitz_TR	to make it harder to take down just one FS advocacy front
[14:27]	fuzzy	although it isn't that high of a bar... i probably got one of the most secure up-to-date linux system up and running
[14:27]	matey	you suggested fs federatrion <- to make it harder to take down just one FS advocacy front <- yes
[14:27]	fuzzy	which is not controlled by the typical corporate pentagon fuzz
[14:27]	matey	and im surprised at how well thats going
[14:27]	matey	im like stallman in that im a pessimist
[14:27]	matey	i dont expect to succeed
[14:28]	matey	i didnt abandon the idea of federation but things got a lot worse and i moved my own focus
[14:28]	matey	meanwhile, leah has run farther with the idea than i could have likely dreamt of doing
[14:28]	matey	i think its in reasonably good hands
[14:28]	matey	leah didnt get it from me, doesnt matter, leah figured it out on their own
[14:28]	TR News	"After the log mentioning my playing with CGI scripts, Acidus was nice enough to send me an email with some helpful tips. The jist of it was renaming the script files extention to .cgi and running the command 'chmod 755 script.cgi' to make it executible." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-22-break.gmi
[14:28]	matey	thats whats great about it! redundancy
[14:29]	TR News	SpellBinding: CDIMUON Wordo: PLUTO gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-22.gmi
[14:29]	matey	even better would be if a few more people ran with it-- thats the point of it
[14:29]	matey	but then you have all these conflicting-- i addressed that too
[14:30]	matey	https://techrights.org/2020/08/08/the-thrive-guidelines/
[14:30]	TR News	Removing the "packaging cruft" from the web. Or buying without packaging with Gemini. gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-06-22-packaging-cruft.gmi
[14:30]	TR Bot	 The THRIVE Guidelines | Techrights
[14:30]	matey	i think its in good hands
[14:30]	matey	but if its not, its probably fixable
[14:30]	matey	because its not some top-down thing that can just sell out with no recourse
[14:30]	TR News	"The dwimmiest sort of all time!" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/dwim-sort
[14:32]	matey	i dont even talk here about the progress being made
[14:32]	matey	whats funny is youve read about it and of course, you dont talk about it either
[14:32]	matey	but thats ok
[14:32]	matey	i dont need it played up, downplayed, bent back and forth and twisted
[14:32]	matey	so its cool
[14:33]	matey	itll happen either way
[14:33]	matey	on top of all the bullshit there are Natural Forces at work
[14:33]	matey	people DONT take the same old shit forever
[14:34]	matey	my radars been on at full power since i started here
[14:34]	matey	its still going on
[14:34]	TR News	Rocket.Chat Aims to Replace Skype for Business by Collaborating with Pexip Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166337
[14:34]	TR Bot	 Rocket.Chat Aims to Replace Skype for Business by Collaborating with Pexip | Tux Machines
[14:35]	matey	but its going to be less about x86 and less about gnu/linux
[14:35]	matey	more about hardware and USERS controlling their computing
[14:35]	matey	thats the "concept" free software stands for
[14:35]	matey	and the fsf doesnt
[14:35]	TR News	Arm Linux IoT gateway ships with up to 8GB RAM, offers dual GbE, 4G LTE, WiFi 6, BLE 5.3, GNSS connectivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166338
[14:35]	TR Bot	 Arm Linux IoT gateway ships with up to 8GB RAM, offers dual GbE, 4G LTE, WiFi 6, BLE 5.3, GNSS connectivity | Tux Machines
[14:35]	matey	the fsf stands for corporations laughing at you and telling you you have to do this, this, this
[14:36]	matey	sign up for github
[14:36]	matey	enable javascript
[14:36]	schestowitz_TR	not really
[14:36]	matey	upgrade your browser (this one is a good idea, unless its a web brtowser)
[14:36]	schestowitz_TR	you are aexaggeratijng because FSF spoke on oth issues
[14:36]	matey	<schestowitz_TR> not really
[14:36]	schestowitz_TR	JS
[14:36]	schestowitz_TR	and also created some solutions
[14:36]	matey	GOOD RETORT
[14:36]	matey	R> you are aexaggeratijng because FSF spoke on oth issues <-= wank
[14:36]	schestowitz_TR	it also ranked github worst... many years ago
[14:36]	fuzzy	what FSF/GNU allowed to happen to their compiler, GCC, which is THE #1 project of theirs
[14:36]	matey	pure wank!
[14:36]	matey	just yesteday you implied you knew better
[14:36]	matey	today you say the opposite
[14:36]	matey	im used to it
[14:37]	fuzzy	this alone, GCC and the "progress" made with it... 
[14:37]	matey	its always of the moment with you
[14:37]	matey	just pull anything out thats convenient
[14:37]	matey	tomorrow youll change your story AGAIN
[14:37]	matey	wank wank wank
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	I changed nothing
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	it's the same position
[14:37]	fuzzy	the fact, many competent and idealist developers invested alot of time ... this makes it even worse, what happened to GCC
[14:37]	matey	missionary?
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	you are in a different mood
[14:37]	matey	yeah
[14:37]	matey	i mean
[14:37]	matey	i can quote you, and show just how different what you were saying was
[14:38]	matey	and how its the opposite now
[14:38]	fuzzy	that's why, FSF/GNU do not want to loose the authority to interpret what "free software" was supposed to be, and what isn't
[14:38]	matey	but i spent like a whole year doing that
[14:38]	matey	it gets old
[14:38]	matey	if you wanna do apologetics for a dead organisation
[14:38]	matey	just say so
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	fuzzy: they have competition with clang now
[14:38]	matey	then the rest of us will say "ok roy, when you put it that way, the fsf isnt totally bullshit"
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	and they would rtaher let gcc became whatever the corporaitona wants it to be
[14:38]	fuzzy	to lure the precious brain power into what they consider "free software", serving corporate consumerist insanity
[14:38]	matey	except we wont, because no one is fooled by their bullshit
[14:38]	matey	except you. 
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	than to let it be replaced by llvm/bsd
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	or mit
[14:39]	matey	and then when people give you shit about that
[14:39]	matey	youre like
[14:39]	matey	the fsf blah blah (imply you understand when really its whatever all the time)
[14:39]	matey	yes i get it
[14:39]	matey	then tomorrow you dont
[14:39]	matey	then the next day you do
[14:39]	matey	its a pretty obvious pattern
[14:39]	matey	its fence-riding
[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	sometimes you act like fsf is the economy
[14:39]	matey	people-pleasing
[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	enemy
[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	not economy
[14:40]	matey	 sometimes you act like fsf is the economy <- what do you think an OCCUPATION (like occupied territory) IS
[14:40]	matey	its when the area is controlled by the enemy.
[14:40]	matey	the fsf is open source now
[14:40]	matey	you can pretend otherwise, i do not care
[14:40]	schestowitz_TR	no, it is not
[14:40]	matey	you can be wrong
[14:40]	matey	 <schestowitz_TR> no, it is no <- youre free to be wrong!
[14:40]	matey	but you WILL deny it later
[14:41]	matey	same as you did with systemd
[14:41]	matey	for like a decade.
[14:41]	matey	or is systemd not a problem again?
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	it's a problem
[14:41]	matey	okay good
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	but not the biggest one
[14:41]	matey	well no i mean
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	to me, swpats first
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	then some other things
[14:41]	matey	i think climate change is probably the biggest one...
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	like WIndows market share
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	systemd later
[14:41]	matey	yes, systemd AFTER ibm kicks it
[14:41]	fuzzy	at least, systemd can be coped with, finding a free software C compiler for recent aarch64 hardware, which can compile *bsd and linux
[14:41]	matey	then its-- no problem.
[14:41]	fuzzy	good luck finding any
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	climate change is a problem to everything
[14:42]	matey	yes
[14:42]	matey	i mean theres always something
[14:42]	schestowitz_TR	not just humans, not just software
[14:42]	matey	i dont think the human race has ever been truly without an issue
[14:42]	schestowitz_TR	we do what we can about the climate
[14:42]	matey	thats a stretch
[14:42]	schestowitz_TR	recycling everything, minimising purchases, etc.
[14:42]	schestowitz_TR	not flying since 2018
[14:42]	matey	oh you mean YOU
[14:42]	matey	i dont think youre the problem as far as climate change goes
[14:43]	matey	its definitely systemic
[14:43]	matey	systemic change is needed
[14:43]	matey	similarly to free software
[14:43]	matey	its a systemic issue
[14:43]	schestowitz_TR	this eyar I quit gulag 100%
[14:43]	schestowitz_TR	and social control media
[14:43]	matey	thats great
[14:43]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166339
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[14:44]	matey	i quit pretending the fsf stands for anything
[14:44]	matey	theyve proven it not to be so
[14:44]	matey	and its becoming obvious to more people
[14:44]	matey	its important to not put stock in bullshit, because weve done it for years
[14:44]	matey	waiting
[14:44]	matey	and as a result, things have gotten MUCH worse
[14:44]	matey	people need to "be the change" the fsf refuses to be
[14:44]	matey	because if they dont, microsoft will continue to
[14:45]	matey	and the fsf wont care.
[14:45]	fuzzy	the FSF/GNU stood for GCC
[14:45]	matey	thats ibm gcc
[14:45]	matey	and microsoft llvm
[14:45]	fuzzy	llvm originated from apple iirc
[14:45]	matey	sadly most people need one or the other
[14:45]	matey	everyone i know needs one or the other, at least for now
[14:45]	matey	except fuzzy
[14:45]	matey	good luck to him
[14:46]	matey	i dont know if gcc is forkable
[14:46]	fuzzy	that's my biggest wish currently, for free software, to get back what we had, 20 years ago
[14:46]	matey	but its too nearly impossible to compile llvm anyway
[14:46]	fuzzy	a free software C compiler
[14:46]	matey	<fuzzy> that's my biggest wish currently, for free software, to get back what we had, 20 years ago <- yeah
[14:46]	matey	thats going to become increasingly common
[14:46]	matey	while other people insist its not important
[14:47]	matey	i mean people wont always agree on the details
[14:47]	matey	people who are free dont have to all agree on the details
[14:47]	matey	they still havent merged vi and emacs-- whats up with that!
[14:47]	matey	oh, wait, freedom
[14:47]	matey	maybe lennart can
[14:47]	matey	who cant a big turd, polish it like gold?
[14:47]	matey	take a working system and destroy it cause "its old"
[14:48]	matey	the poetterman can cause hes full of fucking poo
[14:48]	matey	and makes init fail on shutdown
[14:48]	matey	last line needs work
[14:48]	matey	but you get the idea
[14:48]	fuzzy	the corporate creep into GNU/GTK began with Harfbuzz, not systemd
[14:48]	matey	i mean, gnu/linux is fucked from the moment you turn it on
[14:48]	matey	BEFORE YOU GET A SHELL!
[14:49]	matey	but who cares, its not what we need to work on
[14:49]	fuzzy	harfbuzz, is even worse, somehow, because i could remove _all_ systemd clutter and retain x11/gtk3
[14:49]	matey	users can just "to dick" until... roy thinks its important
[14:49]	matey	hahaha
[14:49]	fuzzy	i could not replace harfbuzz with anything sane
[14:49]	matey	i hope they have another decade
[14:49]	matey	harfbuzz is MOSTLY some other thing (also github based)
[14:49]	matey	look up the deps, its pretty obvious
[14:49]	matey	or just avoid it if you can
[14:49]	matey	i want devanagari support
[14:50]	matey	im not a harfbuzz fan but i know a tricky dep when i see one
[14:50]	fuzzy	wiped it entirely, never again will i use any system with GTK2/3 or QT
[14:50]	matey	the author is a dick too
[14:50]	matey	maybe someone will fork it eventually
[14:50]	matey	youre just like "no unicode for me!"
[14:50]	matey	i mean, it should be optional, sure
[14:50]	matey	so good thing people work on that
[14:50]	matey	making things optional 
[14:51]	matey	some people DO think its important
[14:51]	matey	good
[14:51]	matey	thats what we need
[14:51]	fuzzy	of cause not, i integrated and hacked together yaft+dvtm for extended unicode support on linux framebuffer
[14:51]	fuzzy	and so far, yaft passed the unicode tests just fine
[14:51]	fuzzy	except for hebrew/farsi/hindi, which tbh., isn't my responsibility to implement
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[15:02]	TR Bot	 Links 22/06/2022: Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 | Techrights
[15:03]	MinceR	https://assets.amuniversal.com/5b42f990c8d5013aaf74005056a9545d   ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-15 )
[15:03]	TR Bot	Comic Strip on 2022-06-15 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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[15:20]	TR News	How to Bypass Internet Censorship - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ThTLjzlMu2o Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[15:20]	TR Bot	 How to Bypass Internet Censorship - Invidious
[15:22]	TR News	shred command: makes files unrecoverable in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166340
[15:22]	TR Bot	 shred command: makes files unrecoverable in Linux | Tux Machines
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[15:25]	TR News	"We are still observing a relatively low rate of addition of verified/playable games for the Steam Deck. We are now more than 3500 games validated (3510 games to be precise at the time of publication) on the Steam Deck in two categories..." https://boilingsteam.com/3500-games-now-on-the-steam-deck-with-kao-the-kangaroo-2022-and-moonlighter-verified/
[15:25]	TR Bot	 3500 Games Now On The Steam Deck with Kao the Kangaroo (2022) and Moonlighter Verified - Boiling Steam
[15:26]	TR News	AMD makes a little change in Microsoft GitHub (proprietary), Larabel pounces at it to make "article"
[15:27]	TR News	Using Linux System Roles to implement Clevis and Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/using-linux-system-roles-to-implement-clevis-and-tang-for-automated-luks-volume-unlocking/ Source: Fedora | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linuxmagazine
[15:27]	TR Bot	 Using Linux System Roles to implement Clevis and Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking - Fedora Magazine
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[15:28]	TR News	Complete separation between boot-manager and EasyOS https://bkhome.org/news/202206/complete-separation-between-boot-manager-and-easyos.html
[15:28]	TR Bot	 Complete separation between boot-manager and EasyOS
[15:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:32]	TR News	Bruce Schneier continues to repeat talking points and misuse the term "backdoor" (it's not a back door, it is malware) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/symbiote-backdoor-in-linux.html
[15:32]	TR Bot	Backdoor in Linux - Schneier on Security
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[15:37]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/06/there-is-no-cat-in-this-image/
[15:37]	TR Bot	 There Are Definitely No Cats In Any Of These Images (40 Pics)
[15:41]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166341
[15:41]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[15:44]	TR News	ICBM Red Hat: from working for Adolf Hitler to working with those who literally FUND ISIS https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/ericsson-and-red-hat-empower-service-providers-build-multi-vendor-networks
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Ericsson and Red Hat empower service providers to build multi-vendor networks
[15:45]	TR News	"transformation" = more complexity and more vendor lock-in, more expenses associated with ICBM https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/4-ways-digital-transformation-has-changed-how-business-done
[15:45]	TR Bot	 4 ways digital transformation has changed how business is done | The Enterprisers Project
[15:46]	TR News	Red Hat is modeling itself like Microsoft? "In February, Microsoft revealed its hybrid working strategy, and last month, IBM shared its Return to Workplace Playbook" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/how-create-return-office-playbook-your-it-team
[15:46]	TR Bot	 How to create a return-to-office playbook for your IT team | The Enterprisers Project
[15:49]	TR News	"Since the COVID19 pandemic started, the printing has gone to a whole different level though. The M1 money supply has almost doubled since. What that means for inflation is heavily argued about by different sides." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8528
[15:51]	TR News	OpenWRT: D-Link DGS-1210-28 ... coming soon https://openwrt.org/dgs-1210-28?rev=1655895659&do=diff
[15:51]	TR Bot	 [OpenWrt Wiki] D-Link DGS-1210-28
[15:52]	TR News	Linux kernel manged to turn 30, but that's it. Before it turns 31 it becomes krust. Microsoft shithub (proprietary) and bloat.
[15:54]	TR News	Microsoft's coy concern trolls all over the media, pretending to cover "Linux" while actually attacking it
[15:55]	TR News	Microsoft knows that for its attacks Linux to be more effective and seem credible it needs to seem like it's not Microsoft doing it, hence the concern trolls
[15:55]	TR News	Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166342
[15:55]	TR Bot	 Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 | Tux Machines
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[15:56]	TR News	21.3 of Arch Linux derivative Manjaro released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34101
[15:56]	TR Bot	 Manjaro 21.3 "Ruah" Brings Refreshed Desktop Environments | Tux Machines
[15:57]	TR News	"Pull signature checking selftest from David Howells" https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=0273fd423b2fe10af96ff713273137c63a7736c0
[15:57]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
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[16:05]	TR News	So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights
[16:06]	schestowitz_TR	at last microbell has a "RealJob"(TM)
[16:06]	schestowitz_TR	AMD marketer
[16:08]	TR News	This is not progress. It could technically be done decades ago. THIS IS A RACE TO THE BOTTOM. It's an assault on society, an attack on customers, and abolishments of human dignity etc. https://www.maketecheasier.com/amazon-drone-delivery-service/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 Amazon Chooses 1st Location for Drone Delivery Service - Make Tech Easier
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[16:12]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-6-22-21.jpg
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[16:13]	TR News	Train strikes hard. Hard NOT to sympathise with the strikers. Last time we took the train was when COVID-19 was young (Jan 2020).
[16:15]	TR News	No. "Cloud-based site backups". That's a DATA BREACH. Clown computing = security compromised. https://thishosting.rocks/useful-web-hosting-tips-that-can-help-secure-your-site/
[16:15]	TR Bot	 Useful web hosting tips that can help secure your site
[16:16]	TR News	We already saw what clown computing means when AWS deplatformed Wikileaks for exposing massive corruption and war crimes 12 years ago. The person who kicked out Wikileaks for exposing all those crimes has since then become the world's richest.
[16:17]	TR News	If you like clown computing, then congratulations. You know nothing about computing and you've been indoctrinated to become a stooge or a 'useful idiot' of the Security State, not real security
[16:18]	TR News	This is what Zemlin & The Frauds are 'teaching' https://linuxfoundation.org/compliance-and-security/learn-the-principles-of-devsecops-in-new-free-training-course/
[16:18]	TR Bot	 Learn the Principles of DevSecOps in New, Free Training Course - Linux Foundation
[16:19]	TR News	"Making backups on Google" is NOT security advice. It's basically tell you to jump off the cliff.
[16:21]	TR News	OpenSSF (former Microsoft) telling you to deny people who want to run applications of their choice; they call that "security" https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/free-training-course-teaches-how-to-secure-a-software-supply-chain-with-sigstore%EF%BF%BC/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[16:21]	TR Bot	 Free Training Course Teaches How to Secure a Software Supply Chain with Sigstore - Linux Foundation
[16:21]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
[16:22]	TR News	'Linux' Foundation: promoting NSA back doors agenda while overcompensating with nonsensical buzzwords that have camelCase int hem
[16:24]	TR News	Pushing the "talent gap" canard https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/open-source-technology-careers-become-more-lucrative-as-open-source-software-becomes-dominant-and-talent-gaps-persist/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/lfs101x-revisionism/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/linux-falsehoods-and-indoctrination/
[16:24]	TR Bot	 Open Source Technology Careers Become More Lucrative as Open Source Software Becomes Dominant and Talent Gaps Persist - Linux Foundation
[16:24]	TR Bot	 What the Linux Foundation Teaches People About GNU/Linux in LinuxFoundationX (edX) LFS101x Introduction to Linux [sic] | Techrights
[16:24]	TR Bot	 LinuxFoundationX (edX) LFS101x Introduction to Linux is More Linux Foundation Marketing and Linux Revisionism Than Actual Training/Teaching | Techrights
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[16:27]	TR News	The employment crisis isn't a "skills shortage" or "labour shortage" crisis but a crisis of underpaid workers whose skills are lied about to lower the salaries further, then laying them off and blaming it on them ("Great Resignation"). In some countries real unemployment rate is about 50%.
[16:29]	TR News	Linux Foundation is a front group for billionaires, oppressing the community that did all the work free of charge https://linuxfoundation.org/compliance-and-security/learn-the-principles-of-devsecops-in-new-free-training-course/
[16:29]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/22/the_x_window_system_just/
[16:29]	TR Bot	 Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 The Register
[16:30]	TR News	Linux Foundation is led by chronic liars who forge/fabricate their qualifications. It's the LIE-NOX Foundation. http://techrights.org/2019/08/14/linux-foundation-chief/
[16:30]	TR Bot	 Wrong Person in Charge of the Linux Foundation (and in Charge of Linus Torvalds) | Techrights
[16:31]	TR News	Zemlin and the Frauds have even used Wikipedia to spread disinformation, to lie about themselves, e.g. year LF was founded. Of course they lie about GNU all the time. All the time.
[16:32]	TR News	Zemlin is no better than the "crypto" bros who claim to have invented things they never did. But Zemlin gets away with it because he keeps bribing the media using LF budget. They protect THEIR fraud.
[16:33]	TR News	Little AMD (in relative terms its a small company) getting its moneys worth? http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/ After posting many AMD job ads at Phoronix it seems like Michael himself was implicitly 'hired'
[16:33]	TR Bot	 So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights
[16:34]	TR News	EU court limits air travel surveillance to the strictly necessary - EURACTIV.com https://www.euractiv.com/section/data-protection/news/eu-court-limits-air-travel-surveillance-to-the-strictly-necessary/ caution: the publisher euractiv bagged bribes from a famous criminal and child sex trafficking enabler (Bill Gates)
[16:34]	TR Bot	court limits air travel surveillance to the strictly necessary EURACTIV.com
[16:35]	TR News	Hack Week starts Hacking for Humanity next week https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/22/hw-starts-hacking-nw/
[16:35]	TR Bot	 Hack Week starts Hacking for Humanity next week - openSUSE News
[16:36]	TR News	Draft: Deep colour support (!1756) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1756 Source: gitlab
[16:36]	TR Bot	 Draft: Deep colour support (!1756) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab
[16:37]	TR News	Sourceware GNU Toolchain Infrastructure roadmap https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/06/22/sourceware-gnu-toolchain-infrastructure-roadmap/
[16:37]	TR Bot	 Mark J. Wielaard Blog Archive Sourceware GNU Toolchain Infrastructure roadmap
[16:38]	TR News	"Infrastructure and platforms are rapidly evolving. Not so long ago, infrastructure was not as complex, and it was easy to manage." Because ICBM Red Hat et al want to make things break a little and then sell "support" https://opensource.com/article/22/6/change-management-site-reliability-engineers
[16:38]	TR Bot	site reliability engineer's guide to change management | Opensource.com
[16:40]	TR News	Striving to kill the Elephant to shoehorn more complexity https://containerjournal.com/features/big-data-on-kubernetes-the-end-for-hadoop/
[16:40]	TR Bot	 Big Data on Kubernetes: The End For Hadoop? - Container Journal
[16:40]	TR News	The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache InLong as a Top-Level Project https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-software-foundation-announces84
[16:40]	TR Bot	 The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache InLong as a Top-Level Project : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
[16:42]	TR News	Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 Is Coming on June 28th with FM Radio Expansion, Lomiri Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166343
[16:42]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 Is Coming on June 28th with FM Radio Expansion, Lomiri Fixes | Tux Machines
[16:42]	TR News	Stable Kernels: 5.18.6, 5.15.49, 5.10.124, and 5.4.200 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166344
[16:42]	TR Bot	 Stable Kernels: 5.18.6, 5.15.49, 5.10.124, and 5.4.200 | Tux Machines
[16:48]	TR News	England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone We're Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/22/england-hospital-strain/
[16:48]	TR Bot	Blog Archive England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone Were Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day
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[16:51]	TR News	Hey, Amber Ankerholz, since when is Forrester an expert in "Open Source"? https://www.fosslife.org/how-develop-open-source-strategy see http://techrights.org/wiki/Forrester
[16:51]	TR Bot	 How to Develop an Open Source Strategy
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Forrester - Techrights
[16:52]	TR News	We're meant to think Microsoft-funded anti-FOSS shills are those who should be lecturing us. That's the "Linux Foundation club"...
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[16:55]	TR News	OPI outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software of course... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34102
[16:55]	TR Bot	 Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines
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[16:58]	TR News	SG90 Servo Motor Interfacing with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/sg90-servo-motor-interfacing-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o
[16:58]	TR Bot	 SG90 Servo Motor Interfacing with Arduino Uno
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[17:00]	schestowitz_TR	oops
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR	wrong user
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR	that's what I don't like about this idiot bot he brought here
[17:05]	TR News	ESP32-C5 RISC-V IoT MCU supports dual-band WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0 LE - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/22/esp32-c5-risc-v-iot-mcu-dual-band-wifi-6-bluetooth-le/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
[17:05]	TR Bot	 ESP32-C5 RISC-V IoT MCU supports dual-band WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0 LE - CNX Software
[17:08]	TR News	For COVID-19 its only summer. Worse summer than 2021 and 2020. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/22/england-hospital-strain/
[17:08]	TR Bot	Blog Archive England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone Were Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day
[17:22]	TR News	Has CISA become a "damage control" or PR department of Microsoft? https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/22/keeping-powershell-measures-use-and-embrace
[17:22]	TR Bot	 Keeping PowerShell: Measures to Use and Embrace | CISA
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[17:27]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/Hwb82bT
[17:27]	TR Bot	dumps of my cats #3: Pandora - Album on Imgur
[17:28]	TR News	New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/
[17:28]	TR Bot	 New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights
[17:33]	TR News	KaOS 2022.06 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345
[17:33]	TR Bot	 KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines
[17:35]	TR News	Ouch! Do not say "big tech"! You help Microsoft's lobbyists. It's even in the category name! "The GNU Education Team has published a new article by Richard Stallman on the threats of Big Tech in the field of education." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10198
[17:35]	TR Bot	 www.gnu.org - News: New Article by Richard Stallman [Savannah]
[17:36]	TR News	Chip Maker CEOs Frustrated as $52 Billion Chip Bill Stalls - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/chip-maker-ceos-frustrated-as-52-billion-chip-bill-stalls/ Source: thenewstack
[17:36]	TR Bot	 Chip Maker CEOs Frustrated as $52 Billion Chip Bill Stalls The New Stack
[17:37]	TR News	"Fedora 36 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, both released back to back pretty at the same time. Both of these distros are one of the biggest names in the Linux scene. At the same time, they are radically different from each other. But which among them is the best? How they compare against each other?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MKwEBkkb4DY
[17:37]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Vs Fedora 36 | The BEST Linux OS of 2022! - Invidious
[17:37]	TR News	|In this video, I am going to show how to install Manjaro 21.3.0." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WZwRpGnsmGE
[17:37]	TR Bot	 How to install Manjaro 21.3.0 - Invidious
[17:45]	TR News	Monitoring IV fluid bag levels with the Arduino Portenta H7 and Vision Shield https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/22/monitoring-iv-fluid-bag-levels-with-the-arduino-portenta-h7-and-vision-shield/
[17:45]	TR Bot	 Monitoring IV fluid bag levels with the Arduino Portenta H7 and Vision Shield | Arduino Blog
[17:48]	TR News	Another reason to boycott Microsoft GitHub https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/21/github_bug_apps/
[17:48]	TR Bot	 How rogue GitHub apps could have hijacked countless repos The Register
[17:49]	TR News	Flameshot 12.0.0 Released with Movable Layer, New Magnifier and 20+ Bug Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166346
[17:49]	TR Bot	 Flameshot 12.0.0 Released with Movable Layer, New Magnifier and 20+ Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
[17:49]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166347
[17:49]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[17:50]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers: RISC-V and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166348
[17:50]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers: RISC-V and Arduino | Tux Machines
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[18:20]	Noisytoot	It is possible to disable those annoying join/part/quit/netsplit messages but _9pfs isn't here
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[18:27]	AdmFubar	https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/06/22/1334242/blockchains-vulnerable-to-tampering-a-darpa-analysis-finds?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
[18:27]	TR Bot	 Blockchains Vulnerable To Tampering, a DARPA Analysis Finds - Slashdot
[18:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:36]	MinceR	good to know
[18:42]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-22-22-9.jpg
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[19:07]	TR News	How is this connected to SUSE? https://www.suse.com/c/hack-the-planet-with-a-scholarship-from-redpanda/
[19:07]	TR Bot	the Planet with a Scholarship from Redpanda | SUSE Communities
[19:10]	TR News	Video Editors on Ubuntu, FLOSS Alternatives to Premiere and Movie Maker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166349
[19:10]	TR Bot	 Video Editors on Ubuntu, FLOSS Alternatives to Premiere and Movie Maker | Tux Machines
[19:10]	TR News	All-in on PipeWire for openSUSE Tumbleweed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166350
[19:10]	TR Bot	 All-in on PipeWire for openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines
[19:11]	TR News	"This brings me to how Twitch in particular will or wont get by. Over the last year or so, it has become obvious that their corporate overlords at Amazon want Twitch to get serious about making a profit." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/recession-twitch.gmi
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[19:16]	TR News	Imagination unveils IMG RTXM-2200 32-bit RISC-V real-time "Catapult" CPU Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166351
[19:16]	TR Bot	 Imagination unveils IMG RTXM-2200 32-bit RISC-V real-time "Catapult" CPU | Tux Machines
[19:19]	TR News	"The website Orkut.com is a site youve probably visited even if it feels like a vague memory today. It is Googles first attempt at a social network, and one that became a success largely by chance; it started with modest goals and grew pretty quickly, although it never reached Facebook scale." https://tedium.co/2022/06/22/10-failed-social-networks/
[19:19]	TR Bot	 10 Social Networks That Didnt Make It
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[19:20]	TR News	Linux and Linux Foundation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166352
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines
[19:20]	TR News	Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166353
[19:20]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:20]	Noisytoot	If you want a properly configured bridge to pissnet that does not cause botloops, announce every join/part/quit/netsplit, or constantly flood itself off because of the botloops, I can set one up.
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[19:21]	TR News	"Human Rights Watch studied 164 software programs and web sites recommended by various governments for schools to make students use. It found that 146 of them gave data to advertising and tracking companies." http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/
[19:21]	TR Bot	 New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights
[19:22]	TR News	How To Install The Etherpad Collaborative Note-Taking Platform On Linux https://newsupdate.uk/how-to-install-the-etherpad-collaborative-note-taking-platform-on-linux/
[19:22]	TR Bot	 How to install the Etherpad collaborative note-taking platform on Linux - News Update
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[19:26]	schestowitz	Noisytoot: no need
[19:26]	schestowitz	I don't know the person who set that one up
[19:26]	schestowitz	and did not ask for it
[19:26]	schestowitz	I even said make it less verbose
[19:27]	matey	learning by trial and error
[19:27]	matey	of course...
[19:27]	matey	you know, they DO HAVE test channels for that
[19:27]	matey	watch
[19:27]	matey	 /join #testmyannoyingbot
[19:28]	matey	its all good, but you do wonder sometimes
[19:28]	matey	"like youre any better"
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[19:28]	matey	yeah, well [bot] gabrbled nonsense 'ra'dndom;ascII'... blah blah blah
[19:28]	TR News	"This article is intended to help Oracle Linux users get a basic understanding of Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and its commands and architecture. PCP will be replacing the legacy tool OSWatcher as Oracles recommended tool for diagnosing and tuning Oracle Linux systems." https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/better-diagnostics-with-performance-co-pilot
[19:29]	matey	i mean i thought it was perl source
[19:29]	DaemonFC	I do not feel very good this week. I came home this morning and fell face first into bed and forgot to set my alarm.
[19:30]	TR News	KDE-Focused KaOS Linux 2022.06 Is Here with the Latest Plasma 5.25 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34104
[19:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I guess someone else was mad about going to eviction court.
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[19:31]	DaemonFC	They broke out all the windows in their apartment.
[19:31]	TR News	TrueNAS 22.02.2 "SCALE" is out https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/scalereleasenotes/
[19:31]	DaemonFC	"Oh I don't have to pay you! Here! *crash crash crash crash crash!*
[19:32]	DaemonFC	It's no wonder that if anything does get fixed up between tenants around here it's with the cheapest stuff you can run down to Menards and pick up.
[19:32]	TR News	Proprietary software https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/22/cisa-releases-security-advisories-related-oticefall-insecure
[19:33]	DaemonFC	There's only two kinds of apartments you can rent. Ones where the landlord realizes his tenants are either dealing drugs (and doesn't want to know) or working at McDonalds and "luxury" apartments where they put in new countertops, so that'll be $3,000 a month.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	I've had a constant battle with black mold down here.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	I bleach it, it goes away, it comes back. THe dehumidifier seems to be really slowing it down.
[19:36]	DaemonFC	Those are supposed to be a "temporary" fix until you can get to the source of the humidity. It's already pretty dank down here because it's a basement with crappy airflow.
[19:37]	DaemonFC	But then I had to tape over the ventilator fan in the bathroom to prevent pot and nasty cigarettes from coming in from the neighbors. There's no way to prove which neighbors are doing it, but I think it's the lady over in 100 because I smelled a ton of weed in the air near her door the other day. Then again, everyone here except us smokes weed.
[19:37]	TR News	>Linux Lite 6.0 Based On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166319#comment-34105
[19:38]	DaemonFC	I made the mistake of coming home too late last night so the only spaces left were where the birds shit on your car, or further in, where it's almost impossible to back up without hitting someone.
[19:38]	TR News	How to properly adopt and manage Kubernetes in production https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/20/managing-kubernetes-in-production-video/
[19:38]	DaemonFC	There's really not much room to move around in this region of the country and I had a few 2-3 mph mishaps where it didn't damage anything so oh well.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	But not with the Buick. I have some sort of radar in there that assists with parking and backing up. It dings at you angrily if you get too close to something.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	Fenders and bumpers have a hard life around here.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	I don't get it. This place went in back in 1977. People still drove cars that were like 1.7 of the Buick.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	How did THEY get in and out?
[19:43]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictutres-6-21-22-9.jpg
[19:43]	psydroid2	lol
[19:43]	TR News	TrueNAS SCALE adds SMB Clustering and HA in 2nd Major Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166354
[19:43]	psydroid2	what exactly is LinkedIn?
[19:43]	psydroid2	https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-does-pacman-frog-eat-list-foods-junayed-sebly
[19:44]	TR News	Server: InLong and Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166355
[19:44]	psydroid2	that looks more like the garbage on the Mozilla blog
[19:44]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166356
[19:44]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166356
[19:45]	MinceR	MICROS~1's attempt to get and hoard more private data after Monkey Boy threw chairs over not managing to hoard as much private data as gulag did and after allying with faecesbook to try and make up for it
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[19:47]	TR News	David REVOY: Two signing session this week: Paris and Amiens https://www.davidrevoy.com/article915/two-signing-session-this-week-paris-and-amiens is he that famous?
[19:47]	TR Bot	 Two signing session this week: Paris and Amiens - David Revoy
[19:47]	MinceR	who cares
[19:47]	TR News	[PATCH v2 00/12] powerpc: Nintendo Wii U support - Ash Logan https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220622131037.57604-1-ash@heyquark.com/ Source: heyquark
[19:47]	TR Bot	 [PATCH v2 00/12] powerpc: Nintendo Wii U support - Ash Logan
[19:48]	psydroid2	who the fuck is David?
[19:48]	psydroid2	Alice's neighbour?
[19:53]	TR News	VKD3D 1.4 Released https://source.winehq.org/git/vkd3d.git/commit/9d4df5e70468b4bfe4666bf926cedb5f685394cc
[19:53]	TR Bot	Git - vkd3d.git/commit
[19:57]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166357
[19:57]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[19:57]	TR News	XnView - Small, feisty and powerful Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166358
[19:57]	TR Bot	 XnView - Small, feisty and powerful | Tux Machines
[19:57]	TR News	Videos: #HowTo install Manjaro 21.3.0 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Compared to Fedora 36 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166359
[19:57]	TR Bot	 Videos: How to install Manjaro 21.3.0 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Compared to Fedora 36 | Tux Machines
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[20:02]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/22/lawmakers-propose-incorporating-russias-national-guard-into-video-games-to-improve-its-image-news "Lawmakers propose incorporating Russias National Guard into video games to improve its image"
[20:02]	TR Bot	 . 
[20:02]	TR News	How I would sell OpenBSD as a salesperson gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-selling-arguments.gmi
[20:03]	TR News	On Hork-Bajir language gemini://november.smol.pub/hork-bajir
[20:23]	TR News	Links 22/06/2022: Flameshot 12.0.0 and KaOS 2022.06 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/flameshot-12-0-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/flameshot-12-0-0/
[20:23]	TR Bot	 Links 22/06/2022: Flameshot 12.0.0 and KaOS 2022.06 | Techrights
[20:24]	TR News	Programming/Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166360
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Programming/Development | Tux Machines
[20:26]	matey	 over not managing to hoard as much private data  <- hes stupid isnt he
[20:26]	matey	lets hoard data!
[20:26]	matey	lets co-opt a seearch engine that works with tor!
[20:26]	matey	lets watch basketball and rub players thighs!
[20:26]	matey	pick two ffs
[20:30]	schestowitz_TR	and I told him to two thighs of two people
[20:30]	schestowitz_TR	that makes -3some
[20:30]	schestowitz_TR	ballmer, ms ceo
[20:30]	schestowitz_TR	how apt
[20:30]	schestowitz_TR	look at "microsoft kipman"
[20:31]	schestowitz_TR	a company run by perverts
[20:31]	schestowitz_TR	telling us fs need a coc
[20:31]	schestowitz_TR	and rms is bad for staring
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[21:11]	TR News	The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/
[21:11]	TR Bot	 The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights
[21:11]	DaemonFC	Walmart forgot 2 things on my pickup order and gave me a damaged can.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	Their website issued refunds for all of it though, so there's that.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	Mandy said they trained people on not picking damaged cans.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	They just throw whatever in there and close the order out, bunch of retards.
[21:15]	DaemonFC	$4.29 in damaged and missing merchandise out of a $127 order is not acceptable.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	When I worked there, we'd get reamed out if our fabric department came in over or under by more than a 1% variance at inventory.
[21:17]	DaemonFC	In addition, they accidentally gave me a couple of items I didn't order, but it doesn't seem like I was billed for, including a bottle of "slightly sweet" iced tea and an extra bottle of garlic powder, I'm assuming instead of the bottle of mustard powder that went missing.
[21:18]	DaemonFC	Thankfully, I have a little mustard powder left. I guess I'll go in the store tomorrow and pull it myself. Their spice aisle is a complete mess because they have different sizes, brands, organic and non organic.
[21:18]	DaemonFC	So it takes up like 4 times the space that it should, and nothing is ever where it should go.
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[21:24]	TR News	[Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
[21:24]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights
[21:24]	TR News	[Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
[21:25]	TR News	KaOS Linux 2022.06 Released with KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop and Calamares 3.3 Installer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166362
[21:25]	TR Bot	 KaOS Linux 2022.06 Released with KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop and Calamares 3.3 Installer | Tux Machines
[21:25]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166361
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[21:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[21:45]	DaemonFC	Oh my god I hate carpet.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	I've been over this with pet mess shampoo, vinegar water in the shampooer, and now baking soda srubbed into the floor.
[21:45]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/joe.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-joe#comic )
[21:45]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
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[22:04]	TR News	At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/at-the-epo-bringing-teams-together-or-new-management-of-office-space-is-another-step-towards-epo-outsourcing/
[22:04]	TR Bot	 At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing | Techrights
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[22:17]	TR News	 [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It) | Gemini address: [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It)
[22:17]	TR News	Gemini on ESP32 gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/gemini-on-esp32.gmi
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[22:19]	MinceR	(cat) https://i.imgur.com/lErepvf.jpeg
[22:39]	TR News	EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/
[22:39]	TR Bot	 EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights
[22:54]	DaemonFC	Okay, I left it on for 2 hours and vacuumed it all up.
[22:54]	DaemonFC	Seems to smell better over there. We'll see if I keep getting whiffs of cat piss.
[22:54]	DaemonFC	Everything I use on it makes it smell better, but it's hard to get it all.
[22:55]	DaemonFC	The enzyme cleaners, the vinegar, now the baking soda.
[22:55]	TR News	[Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/
[22:55]	DaemonFC	It's like you can get 98.5% of it but once the cat has done something it's there.
[22:55]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights
[22:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm good with 98-99%. I just don't want the landlord to come over for something or to sign a new lease and go "Fwaaaaah!!!!" as soon as I open the door.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	https://videocardz.com/newz/crypto-crash-forces-miners-to-sell-hundreds-of-graphics-cards-during-livestreamed-auctions
[22:57]	TR Bot	crash forces miners to sell hundreds of graphics cards during livestreamed auctions - VideoCardz.com
[22:57]	DaemonFC	Dumping graphics cards into the market now.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, ^
[22:57]	DaemonFC	It's going to be funny seeing Nvidia choking on all of that oversupply that was puffing them up that's all on the market again now.
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[23:06]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/apple.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-apple#comic )
[23:06]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[23:19]	TR News	EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/
[23:19]	TR Bot	 EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
[23:21]	TR News	New tea pot gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-22%20New%20tea%20pot
[23:21]	schestowitz_TR	DaemonFC: I have no use for these
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Neither do I.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	This laptop is plenty fast for retro gaming emulators.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	It can even run Skyrim and Fallout 4, which are both so big you never complete the entire game, even on one character build.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	You go through it again with a different build, you always find things you missed before, or there's an expansion pack you haven't ever gotten around to.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	It takes years just to get through one game, you know, sometimes.
[23:26]	psydruid	It's not just that, electricity costs 0.50 per kWh here now
[23:26]	DaemonFC	https://abc7chicago.com/copi-asian-carp-new-name-is-edible-illinois/11987699
[23:26]	TR Bot	 Asian carp renamed copi, short for copious, meant to encourage eating as means to control invasive species - ABC7 Chicago
[23:27]	DaemonFC	Yeah, as electric costs skyrocket, and it becomes harder to mine bitcoin, and the central banks tighten, it's a perfect storm.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	Bitcoin isn't coming back from this.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	If you use too much power, especially at odd hours of the day and night, the power company hands over your information to the police.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	They bust down your door suspecting you of growing marijuana or something.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Getting people who can't afford it hopelessly addicted to drugs and gambling is the state's job!
[23:29]	TR News	The sort of atmosphere that has already led to a suicide wave at the EPO is being reproduced by Antnio Campinos (Monopoly Tony) less than 4 years after he came, just like Benot Battistelli around 2014 http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/
[23:29]	TR Bot	 The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights
[23:29]	DaemonFC	When anyone else does it, it's a crime.
[23:29]	TR News	Benot Battistellis French buddy Antnio Campinos is destroying whats left of the EPO; as the 50th anniversary approaches its not clear if the EPO has any future at all (laws arent obeyed and new hires arent examiners but a disposable workforce, akin to scabs, that doesnt meet the requirements explicitly specified in the EPC) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
[23:29]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights
[23:29]	DaemonFC	It's the same with whoremongering.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	Whenever prostitution is legal, it's taxed and the state is their pimp.
[23:30]	TR News	The Local Staff Committee Munich (LSC Munich/LSCMN) and Central Staff Committee (CSC) raise awareness of a scheme that may result in only 33% of staff (at best) [having] a permanently allocated desk. http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/at-the-epo-bringing-teams-together-or-new-management-of-office-space-is-another-step-towards-epo-outsourcing/
[23:30]	TR Bot	 At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing | Techrights
[23:30]	TR News	Vichy Battistelli and his French friend have basically killed the EPC, i.e. they committed crimes to turn the EPO into a private bank instead of a patent office; who will hold them accountable and when? http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/executing-epc/
[23:30]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It) | Techrights
[23:30]	TR News	EPO management that breaks the law wants the staff to blindly cooperate; failing to achieve full cooperation (in crimes), the managers are increasingly bullying the workers, causing some of them to get ill (in the past this led to a lot of suicides) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/
[23:30]	TR Bot	 EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights
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[23:34]	TR News	The EPOs repeated violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) will make Antnio Campinos an asylum seeker like his father, seeking political shelter like Benot Battistelli, who virtually went into hiding in 2018 (when his diplomatic immunity ended and his EPO crimes, like the Benalla affair, came to light) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/
[23:34]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights
[23:34]	TR News	The EPOs presidents Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos have demolished any remnant of EPC compliance; this institution must be reobooted immediately and all the managers sacked if not prosecuted http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/
[23:34]	TR Bot	 EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights