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| DaemonFC[m] | It's just a complete and utter failure and it was part of Trump's "Go about your business! Nothing to see here!" gaslighting, and it didn't work. | Aug 22 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | On top of that, hundreds of people who went to that motorcycle rally in South Dakota have already started showing symptoms. | Aug 22 00:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, the kind of people my mom have been married too would have bashed the protests for spreading COVID-19 and then gone to the stupid fucking motorcycle rally. | Aug 22 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Both Gonad and the last one got motorcycles. | Aug 22 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's going to be another explosion of COVID-19 because of that rally. They said about 200,000+ people (because unemployment is running very high and they had nothing else to do I guess thanks to MAGA....) attended. So good luck with that. | Aug 22 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We live in a country where people risk getting a plague that will permanently damage them if they even live so they can see movies that are so old they were on VHS and Betamax, and to a motorcycle rally. | Aug 22 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People want to know why COVID-19 is so bad here, that's what's going on. | Aug 22 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not all of the stupidity is on the far-right. I was reading an article where someone was telling gay people to stop hooking up. I said, "If AIDS, a dozen horrible STDs, some of which are incurable, and the threat of running into a serial killer didn't scare them away from Grindr, why would this?". | Aug 22 00:06 |
| schestowitz | just installed htop on the server | Aug 22 00:11 |
| schestowitz | improved my monitoring a little | Aug 22 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-kanye-west-president-illinois-ballot-20200821-e6kj4sq7pzgabcd64rerrdnixe-story.html | Aug 22 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Kanye West kicked off Illinois presidential ballot - Chicago Tribune | Aug 22 00:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Rap artist" | Aug 22 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 22 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oxymoron Kanye West | Aug 22 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The courts set a 2,500 signature standard due to the Coronavirus. | Aug 22 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And Kanye only got 3,128 in a state of 12.6 million people. | Aug 22 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, 1,928 were invalidated by the election board for whatever reason. | Aug 22 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "West, who was a supporter of President Donald Trump, had said he had a falling out with the Republican chief executive. But Democrats contended West’s late bid for the White House was an attempt to take Black votes away from Democratic candidate Joe Biden." | Aug 22 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not clear how Kanye West would get enough votes away from Joe Biden in Illinois, considering that Donald Trump is 20 points behind Joe Biden in the polls. | Aug 22 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only place he is on the ballot where the election will be close is Iowa, where there are almost no black people anyway. It's even whiter than Indiana. For some reason, every state with a majority of Republicans acts like the world falls off at the state line and there are dragons past it. | Aug 22 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They normally go unnoticed and forgotten by the rest of the country because, well, there really isn't all that much more than corn in Indiana, unless you count AIDS and Hillbilly Crank. | Aug 22 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom seems to get the "It's cheap." part of Indiana, but not why. | Aug 22 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basic economics says that inflation can occur with demand pull, which the housing market in Indiana doesn't have, and rising wages (usually due to educational achievement), which Indiana does not have. | Aug 22 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What inflation happens in Indiana is almost entirely cost push inflation. That is, they were so successful in turning the world into an overpopulated shithole that there are many other people bidding for world resources and driving their own standard of living down, as Trump causes runaway Dollar devaluation to print money for his criminal friends. | Aug 22 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a lot cheaper to live in Waukegan than it is to live in the rest of Lake County, IL because this is where all of the black and Mexican people live, so the white people went running for the hills and don't invest here. | Aug 22 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some more of those famously not racist Democrats that CrystalMath likes so much. | Aug 22 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They love black people. In fact, the only thing they love more than black people is not being around black people and putting in security systems in case any black people wander into their neighborhoods anyway somehow, even though the police are usually sitting there on the city line watching over them. | Aug 22 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Other than that, they love black people. | Aug 22 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Marisol" has a security system so that she can safely open the door to get her water from the truck, even if the driver is black that day. | Aug 22 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: After Mandy gets his Green Card anyway, I'm going to drop a letter in the mail. | Aug 22 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Addressed to "Marisol". | Aug 22 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just going to say "Neener neener neener hahahahahaha". | Aug 22 00:44 |
| CrystalMath | i never said i like democrats! | Aug 22 00:45 |
| CrystalMath | i just said you're being a bit of a hypocrite, calling people racist, and then saying that black people have a lower IQ | Aug 22 00:46 |
| CrystalMath | i don't see what i said wrong | Aug 22 00:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It is pretty terrifying to live with them and that's an observable and verifiable fact. | Aug 22 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, if I had any money, I'd be running away from this dump like the rest of the white Democrats. | Aug 22 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've never lived in a majority-white area where there were gunshots, where a guy with a grill had flames shooting up maybe 3 feet short of burning the whole fucking hotel down, and where it was overflowing with garbage strewn everywhere and detritus, needles, and other debris, or where there was constant rap music and "Bitch I gonna kill you bitch!" and screaming babies are like every neighbor ever. | Aug 22 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My dad sent me a follow-up email saying he had a vision that I was trapped in Hell. | Aug 22 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's not far off. | Aug 22 00:49 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 22 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, when he died, his estate will probably go to Church of Scientology, Clearwater, Florida. | Aug 22 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it won't help me get out of Hell. | Aug 22 00:49 |
| schestowitz | hell no | Aug 22 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The way you get by here as a white person is you don't draw attention to yourself. A few of the neighbors are respectable. | Aug 22 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was just pointing out that the Democrats and Republicans aren't much different in what the majority opinion on black people is. | Aug 22 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or what to do about it. | Aug 22 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone has this idea of how they can put them in their own city somewhere and try to pretend that city doesn't exist. | Aug 22 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like Gary, Indiana or Waukegan, Illinois. | Aug 22 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's separate and totally kind of equal, in the sense that it's possible for white people to move to Flint, Michigan and drink lead and be forgotten about by society. | Aug 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | you need to quit this flamboyant racism yourself | Aug 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | before calling others out on it | Aug 22 00:53 |
| schestowitz | advertising and flaunting your homosexuality is not a 'carte blanche' for bashing women and blacks | Aug 22 00:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, move to south Chicago and see how long it takes for them to pull out the welcome wagon. | Aug 22 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if it's obvious you're not gentrifying anything and that's where you can afford to live. | Aug 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | doesn't matter | Aug 22 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tell me that's not racist. | Aug 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | racism is defined as classifying by rac | Aug 22 00:55 |
| schestowitz | and generalising | Aug 22 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's exactly why I got mugged! | Aug 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | you would not like it if black-only forums said sodomisation is why they have covid-19 | Aug 22 00:56 |
| schestowitz | and how it's your fault and you need to be beat up | Aug 22 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, almost every time I went into a business down there, they asked me if I was lost. | Aug 22 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police asked if I was okay. | Aug 22 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And a lot of black people are homophobic and religious. | Aug 22 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nation of Islam was about 1 mile from my apartment. | Aug 22 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's tracked by SPLC as an anti-white hate group. | Aug 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | there are hate groups in all directions | Aug 22 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It might shock the SJWs out there, but SPLC DOES classify and track anti-white hate groups. | Aug 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | inc. against gays | Aug 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | don't fuel and fan the flames | Aug 22 00:57 |
| CrystalMath | i know the homophobic and religious part | Aug 22 00:57 |
| schestowitz | and they might not fan 'em your way, either | Aug 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | your opinions you can keep to yourself sometimes | Aug 22 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I moved to Rogers Park, the NoI people came and did protests there too. | Aug 22 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | it seems to be a trope, though | Aug 22 00:58 |
| schestowitz | I don't speak out loud all my opinions | Aug 22 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Against fags and Jews (their words). | Aug 22 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | i wonder how many black people are really homophobic, and/or religious | Aug 22 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Overwhelming. | Aug 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | religion is common among the 'underclass' | Aug 22 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | i have a very small sample (from IRC) and it's homophobic (0 / 1), religious (? / 1) | Aug 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say they'd be Republicans if they weren't black. | Aug 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | the rich often 'pretend' | Aug 22 00:59 |
| schestowitz | helps them get consent from voters and others, worker, labour... | Aug 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what happens with two parties. | Aug 22 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | and LGBT (1 / 1) | Aug 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You get different groups that hate each other but need each other for votes to beat the other side. | Aug 22 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what's going on here. | Aug 22 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | so the only black person i know and talk to a lot is LGBT and not homophobic, but not quite atheist, either | Aug 22 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | more like pantheism | Aug 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans are the smaller party because they've done such an excellent job at chasing away anyone who isn't a white Nazi. | Aug 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats have less power because they concentrate themselves in a few areas, which dilutes their representation. | Aug 22 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "so the only black person i know "> I'm an atheist, on most issues I'd say I vary between Libertarian and Socialist, and both parties piss me off. | Aug 22 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How did I reach these conclusions? Looking at the world, it's clear that power goes to people who don't deserve it and shouldn't have it. It's like money. | Aug 22 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | are you black? | Aug 22 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I'm not. I just don't get it. You know? | Aug 22 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | i just asked for statistical reasons | Aug 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm fucking poor. I don't have much more than they do, but I keep my chin up. | Aug 22 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I carry myself with a little bit of respect that I will not let people take and that I refuse to give up. | Aug 22 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | i'm a libertarian as well | Aug 22 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't looted anything and tried to make excuses for why I suddenly needed a trunk full of whatever I could get out of the Gucci store with. | Aug 22 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | but i have a less "nature" point of view and more "nurture" | Aug 22 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really don't care about Gucci, in fact I was laughing my ass off about it, but the general disregard for the law carries over. | Aug 22 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They attack small business owners who can't afford to rebuild and own a small convenience store. | Aug 22 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's hardly some nameless faceless company that sells overpriced shit to "Marisol". | Aug 22 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | every time i look at anything BLM i see mostly white people of my horrible generation | Aug 22 01:06 |
| CrystalMath | that's pretty much it | Aug 22 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The police just don't enforce the law, and it's hard to look at Lightfoot or Kim Foxx with anything but the utmost contempt. | Aug 22 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently there were quite a few white people who were attacking the cops in Chicago. | Aug 22 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw some mugshots. | Aug 22 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good luck with those felonies. I hope hitting a cop with a bullhorn and stealing a body camera that fell off of one is worth a criminal record. | Aug 22 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not penny ante bullshit either, you know? Eventually little miss "BLM 18 year old" is going to have to try to do something in the real world and they'll pull up "Battery against a police officer". | Aug 22 01:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Oops. | Aug 22 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart will not hire her now. | Aug 22 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Her best odds are take a plea deal for a fine and two years of supervision and then try to expunge the arrest four years from now. | Aug 22 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're so lucky that Chicago doesn't have a real prosecutor. | Aug 22 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "every time i look at anything BL"> You know, that's actually really funny, because a lot of black people don't want BLM in their neighborhood and don't want anything to do with them. | Aug 22 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The media says they do, but that's not what the majority of people in Englewood talking to the news had to say. | Aug 22 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why would you want that in your neighborhood? | Aug 22 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do you want them to set YOUR car on fire and have a riot with the police in your lawn? | Aug 22 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They shouldn't want BLM in Englewood for the same reason that people shouldn't want a Klan march. | Aug 22 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's agitators looking to cause trouble and violence. | Aug 22 01:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | When you try to have a peaceful protest, these people will crash it and set the whole neighborhood on fire and make you look bad. | Aug 22 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bad optics though, to say the least, that the only person in Chicago who is safe is the mayor. | Aug 22 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In her "fortress" guarded by the CPD. | Aug 22 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The City Council is done with Mayor Lightfoot. | Aug 22 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was reading earlier that they're getting ready to impose an emergency declaration over her veto. | Aug 22 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To ask the governor to send the National Guard in to restore order. | Aug 22 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's the only thing that works, it's the only thing that works. Of course, they're definitely not going to stand there and watch as BLM destroys an Indian man's convenience store for the second time like CPD did. | Aug 22 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They are soldiers and they are not going to sleep on the job and slack off like the mayor and CPD. | Aug 22 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Biden is trying not to wade into this so he doesn't have to piss anyone off, but Trump is right. The city is on the verge of collapse from lawlessness. | Aug 22 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 50 Aldermen know it and 49 are Democrats, and they might call in the National Guard because they're the most local form of government Chicago has. | Aug 22 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody has any control over the city police and the mayor is hiding in a pillow fort. | Aug 22 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The people causing the problems have no idea the kind of shitstorm they're about to bring down on themselves. | Aug 22 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They weren't around for the Detroit and Chicago riots in the 60s when the Guard came in and busted heads. | Aug 22 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "the rich often 'pretend'"> Some do. | Aug 22 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've often wondered how many just go along with it because their life is so easy from all the money that they never really had a crisis that made them give up on the idea of God. | Aug 22 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't say that all or even most atheists are brilliant or rich. | Aug 22 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of religious people, I think, are like my mom. Instead of saying fuck this......You know what she says? | Aug 22 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It rains on the just and the unjust alike." | Aug 22 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I haven't seen Bill Gates's sky open up and rain frogs too much. | Aug 22 01:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.christianpost.com/cartoon/the-religious-life-of-bill-gates.html | Aug 22 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.christianpost.com | The Religious Life of Bill Gates - The Christian Post | Aug 22 01:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: LOL | Aug 22 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Catholics. | Aug 22 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | More pedophiles. | Aug 22 01:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You wouldn't guess it would you? | Aug 22 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Catholics don't want population control. They want more useful idiots giving them power. | Aug 22 01:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ | Aug 22 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United States Coronavirus: 5,796,727 Cases and 179,200 Deaths - Worldometer | Aug 22 02:11 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: 51,000-ish cases again. | Aug 22 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told you cutting the tests wouldn't work for long. | Aug 22 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there's more of it out there and people end up in the hospital anyway and the number goes back up. | Aug 22 02:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So to sell a story that it was "Going away." for two weeks, it's on the upswing with serious cases again. | Aug 22 02:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Watching more Stranger Things. | Aug 22 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Mind Flayer. Yeah, a hive mind from another dimension hell bent on expansion. | Aug 22 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Little bit creepier than The Borg. | Aug 22 02:26 |
| kingoffrance | well thats what andrew jackson said re: 2nd national bank of us or whatever | Aug 22 02:27 |
| kingoffrance | we are back to the central bank thing | Aug 22 02:27 |
| kingoffrance | so... | Aug 22 02:27 |
| kingoffrance | re: rain on just and unjust | Aug 22 02:27 |
| kingoffrance | according to andrew jacksons ghost, thats probably not in play | Aug 22 02:27 |
| kingoffrance | oh mind flayer is not just a nethack thing? | Aug 22 02:32 |
| kingoffrance | in the game you need a helmet else he eats your brains from afar | Aug 22 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They used D&D terminology to explain the life in the Upside Down. | Aug 22 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It turns out that the Mind Flayer is a close approximation of the D&D monster. | Aug 22 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everything in the Upside Down is a single consciousness connected to it. | Aug 22 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They never explained so far what the Upside Down is, but it appears to be a corrupted version of our reality, so potentially this thing invades and corrupts different versions of Earth. | Aug 22 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like some kind of cancerous growth. | Aug 22 02:35 |
| kingoffrance | thats kind of what nethack is too actually | Aug 22 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's difficult to damage the Mind Flayer because it's composed of a biomass taken from its victims. | Aug 22 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Each piece that gets detached becomes another entity that can rejoin the whole. | Aug 22 02:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Conventional weapons seem to have little effect on it other than slowing it down. | Aug 22 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose you could nuke an entire city and potentially stop it. | Aug 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's a small one. | Aug 22 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The one in the 3rd season appears to be growing from a small part of the one in the Upside Down. | Aug 22 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "thats kind of what nethack is to"> I haven't played nethack. | Aug 22 02:42 |
| kingoffrance | @ d D human jackal dragon | Aug 22 02:42 |
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| kingoffrance | % food | Aug 22 02:43 |
| kingoffrance | you get the picture :) | Aug 22 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I feel like I've been living off of potatoes for months. | Aug 22 03:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Happy to get them though. | Aug 22 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a mobile food pantry that keeps giving us a random assortment of stuff and over the past two months I've had to figure out every way to make potatoes because they've given us about 25 pounds of them. | Aug 22 03:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've noticed that throughout this mess there's been a surplus on dairy (milk, cheese, butter, eggs, cottage cheese, sour cream) and potatoes. ALL kinds of potatoes. | Aug 22 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Onions too. | Aug 22 03:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: I think we're finally ready to transition to a potato-based economy like that episode of Rick & Morty with the giant head in the sky. | Aug 22 03:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | In all seriousness though, tubers are really the way to go when you have a lot of people to feed. | Aug 22 03:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Potatoes are hardy and there's a lot of places in North America where hey grow really well. They're nutrient dense. | Aug 22 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About a million ways you can cook them. | Aug 22 03:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I wonder why my dad is so impressed with really expensive fences on the border. | Aug 22 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Especially this crap. | Aug 22 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You cut through it in a minute or two with saws and now the people who were allegedly going to maintain it are kind of going to prison. | Aug 22 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyu-quarantine-meals-tik-tok-students-expose-schools-sad-meals/ | Aug 22 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Students stuck in their dorms are exposing NYU's sad quarantine meals on TikTok— and demanding the school do better - CBS News | Aug 22 03:56 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Governor Cuomo is keeping NYU students caged up in their dorms like prisoners after someone thought it would be a great idea to have in-person classes that lasted about a week. | Aug 22 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Many students requested vegetarian or vegan meals reported receiving meat products, including a "steak and cheese salad" and a "Moroccan spiced chicken bowl."" | Aug 22 03:59 |
| *DaemonFC[m] giggles | Aug 22 03:59 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most vegans look like they could use a steak and cheese, honestly. | Aug 22 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of them look like vampires from an Elder Scrolls game. | Aug 22 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Hot Topic stuff doesn't help. | Aug 22 04:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Nolden also said she, and many other students, ordered dinners through DoorDash, "but that gets to be pricey on our already high tuition." Several students pointed out that ordering take-out for two weeks is not feasible for low-income students. " | Aug 22 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, well, at least there's a $80,000 degree in it for you so you can work at Walmart with Mandy while paying it back. | Aug 22 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I only had a dollar for every college graduate working some dead end job. | Aug 22 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then some black student was offended that they brought her a "watermelon and chicken" salad. | Aug 22 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're very progressive in New York. | Aug 22 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ""When NYU told us we would be provided three meals a day free of charge, we assumed we would be getting fed properly." | Aug 22 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but they found out that college is a pump and dump where they load you down with debt while minimizing their own expenses. | Aug 22 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck that. I'd just walk out. I'm not paying $20,000 a year to go to NYU so that they can hold me hostage in a room for two weeks and feed me rotten and stale food occasionally, when they remember I'm in there. | Aug 22 04:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My attitude about the virus at this point is I'm trying to avoid it but I'm probably not going to quarantine if I get it. | Aug 22 04:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They let it get out of control. Deal with this shit on your own. | Aug 22 04:07 |
| scientes | "demanding" | Aug 22 04:54 |
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| scientes | ...pleading | Aug 22 04:54 |
| scientes | ...begging | Aug 22 04:54 |
| scientes | ...bitching | Aug 22 04:54 |
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| scientes | ...whining | Aug 22 04:54 |
| scientes | ...gasping | Aug 22 04:54 |
| scientes | ...whimpering | Aug 22 04:55 |
| scientes | XRevan86, state media claiming they are transfering Nalvady to germany | Aug 22 04:57 |
| scientes | 16 minutes ago | Aug 22 04:57 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: "they"? An independent German organisation does. But it was *allowed*, so that heroic act of giving permission was done, yes. | Aug 22 06:47 |
| XRevan86 | Cinema for Peace Foundation on a request from Pussy Riot / Mediazona | Aug 22 06:49 |
| *XRevan86 wishes luck. | Aug 22 06:50 | |
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| schestowitz | thoughts and prayers | Aug 22 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tater tots and pears to you too. | Aug 22 07:21 |
| schestowitz | open question (to all) | Aug 22 07:31 |
| schestowitz | for any further info | Aug 22 07:31 |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft is regularly listed as a DebConf sponsor since 2016," one reader told us | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | https://debconf19.debconf.org/ | Aug 22 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debconf19.debconf.org | DebConf19 | Aug 22 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://debconf18.debconf.org/ | Aug 22 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debconf18.debconf.org | DebConf18 | Aug 22 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://debconf17.debconf.org/ | Aug 22 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debconf17.debconf.org | DebConf17 | Aug 22 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://debconf16.debconf.org/ | Aug 22 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debconf16.debconf.org | DebConf16 | Aug 22 07:32 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft, Microsoft. | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > Just wanted to say - excellent reporting! | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > Sometimes, we know something is off, but not exactly to what extent!!! | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > I had NO idea MS was sponsoring SFC. no idea. | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > And copyleft conf.. I'm disgusted! | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > Here is something interesting - not sure if you have come across this yet. | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > 1. No application online at SPI these days. | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > States to email the membership email. | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > DebianConf numbers: | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > These numbers seem to coincide with statements regarding conferences used as bribery... | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > Talk about a huge increase... I mean... wth | Aug 22 07:32 |
| schestowitz | > Maybe the money they took in was more during the time frame of DebConf19... | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > or maybe... it's something else. | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > Not sure. | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/annual-reports/2019.pdf | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > DebConf17 | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 2,950.86 Travel | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > DebConf18 | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 11,779.66 Travel | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > DebConf19 | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 781.90 Banking fees | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 23,445.87 Conferences | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 122.11 IT | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | > 132,833.61 Travel | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | I am still researching this thing... | Aug 22 07:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/irc-log-210820/ | Aug 22 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 21, 2020 | Techrights | Aug 22 07:51 | |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: can we some time soon do HV updates, root password reset, reboot, sudoers fixed? | Aug 22 08:20 |
| schestowitz | this weekend I have time to replicate on a container one or two of the techrights CMSs | Aug 22 08:21 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | favorable situation than this one.” If the Supreme Court would uphold Carrie | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Buck’s sterilization, the floodgates of eugenic | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | cleansing would be opened across the United | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | States for thousands. Carrie’s destiny, and indeed | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | the destiny of eugenics, rested upon nine men-and | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | most heavily on the one man who would ultimately | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | write the court’s opinion. That man was Justice | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., considered by many to | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | be America’s clearest thinker and most importanjudicial authority.109 | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 22 11:17 |
| schestowitz | black, ed | Aug 22 11:17 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, I was really just saying that I saw it on RT | Aug 22 12:11 |
| scientes | > on a request from Pussy Riot | Aug 22 12:11 |
| oiaohm | https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21396316/apple-wordpress-in-app-purchase-tax-update-store << This is really getting how long will developers keep on making applications for IOS | Aug 22 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | WordPress claims Apple cut off updates to its completely free app because it wants 30 percent - The Verge | Aug 22 12:13 | |
| scientes | they put the plane on state media immediately | Aug 22 12:13 |
| scientes | and that is what I saw | Aug 22 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Right, you just worded it like they took the credit. | Aug 22 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | they could double down and screw him up and instead let him go, but that's about it | Aug 22 12:14 |
| scientes | I don't look at it as much, but I was following RT Spanish because it was a way of studying spanish | Aug 22 12:14 |
| scientes | in other news, I wish I had better materials to learn Russian | Aug 22 12:15 |
| scientes | Is there anything this tacky about US culture? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRUj9ddlzFg | Aug 22 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Carlos Rivera - Regrésame Mi Corazón - YouTube | Aug 22 12:17 | |
| scientes | the other united states? | Aug 22 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | And yes, members of Pussy Riot Nadezhda Tolokonnikova and Peter Verzilov (married) | Aug 22 12:17 |
| XRevan86 | Who are also involved in a news website Mediazona, which is pretty good. | Aug 22 12:18 |
| scientes | doesn't the woman take the man's surname? | Aug 22 12:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: optionally | Aug 22 12:18 |
| scientes | (and keep her patronomic) | Aug 22 12:18 |
| scientes | but always pre-soviet? | Aug 22 12:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, it was opt-out back then too. | Aug 22 12:18 |
| scientes | oh ok | Aug 22 12:18 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/09/14/pussy-riot-member-pyotr-verzilov-has-regained-consciousness-he-s-been-hospitalized-for-three-days-and-his-friends-fear-he-was-poisoned | Aug 22 12:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 22 12:19 | |
| XRevan86 | 2018 | Aug 22 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | he was also hospitalised in this fashion, so he used his connections for Navalny's sake | Aug 22 12:19 |
| scientes | perhaps the whole surname thing is a Anglo thing, with primogeniteur and all | Aug 22 12:22 |
| scientes | we have only had surnames for like 500 years | Aug 22 12:23 |
| scientes | > | Aug 22 12:24 |
| scientes | By 1400, most English and some Scottish people used surnames, but many Scottish and Welsh people did not adopt surnames until the 17th century, or later. Henry VIII (ruled 1509–1547) ordered that marital births be recorded under the surname of the father.[8] | Aug 22 12:24 |
| scientes | hmmm. In China, according to legend, family names started with Emperor Fu Xi in 2852 BC.[12][13] | Aug 22 12:24 |
| scientes | Originally, Chinese surnames were derived matrilineally,[14] although by the time of the Shang dynasty (1600 to 1046 BCE) they had become patrilineal.[14][15] Chinese women do not change their names upon marriage. They can be referred to either as their full birth names or as their husband's surname plus the word for wife. | Aug 22 12:24 |
| scientes | in Japan it came from the US > In Japan, family names were uncommon except among the aristocracy until the 19th century.[16] | Aug 22 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Surnames are primarily a bureaucratic thing | Aug 22 12:25 |
| scientes | XRevan86, hell of a lot better than numbers | Aug 22 12:26 |
| scientes | or the CCP's databases | Aug 22 12:28 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Just sayin' that this stuff occures and solidifies when a nation acquires some kind of registry, passports, etc. | Aug 22 12:37 |
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| XRevan86 | and so surnames can have all kinds of origins | Aug 22 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | From family nicknames to toponyms | Aug 22 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | maybe even just personal nicknames | Aug 22 12:38 |
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| scientes | https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apellido | Aug 22 12:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-es.wikipedia.org | Apellido - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | Aug 22 12:39 | |
| scientes | this page still has evidence of the old racist system | Aug 22 12:39 |
| scientes | let me remember the name | Aug 22 12:40 |
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| *schestowitz glad he does not report from somewhere like Russia | Aug 22 12:41 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Wouldn't want to have a sudden sugar drop? | Aug 22 12:42 |
| scientes | I guess there isn't much language to it | Aug 22 12:42 |
| schestowitz | [12:19] <XRevan86> https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/09/14/pussy-riot-member-pyotr-verzilov-has-regained-consciousness-he-s-been-hospitalized-for-three-days-and-his-friends-fear-he-was-poisoned | Aug 22 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I remembered this | Aug 22 12:42 |
| scientes | > Entre los motivos de las revoluciones americanas del siglo XIX encontramos el malestar de los criollos y mestizos gobernados por funcionarios reales, que en muchos casos poseían un nivel cultural e intelectual inferior al de los nacidos en América, y que disfrutaban de prerrogativas que discriminaban a los otros.30 | Aug 22 12:42 |
| schestowitz | either Russian cuisine sucks or the regime sucks | Aug 22 12:43 |
| schestowitz | (or both LOL) | Aug 22 12:43 |
| schestowitz | Russian delicatessens suck | Aug 22 12:43 |
| scientes | wut? | Aug 22 12:43 |
| scientes | Russian food is awesome | Aug 22 12:43 |
| schestowitz | some of it | Aug 22 12:43 |
| scientes | A brit is one to be talking...... | Aug 22 12:44 |
| scientes | or american | Aug 22 12:44 |
| schestowitz | British food is a joke | Aug 22 12:44 |
| schestowitz | even here it's a joke | Aug 22 12:44 |
| scientes | I was in London | Aug 22 12:44 |
| scientes | I just ate food from Arab stores for that one day | Aug 22 12:44 |
| schestowitz | people like Indian and sometimes Chinese | Aug 22 12:44 |
| scientes | fish and chips was rediculously priced | Aug 22 12:44 |
| schestowitz | about a fiva' mate | Aug 22 12:44 |
| schestowitz | with chips included | Aug 22 12:45 |
| schestowitz | 3.50 otherwise, last I checked, maybe not in central London through... | Aug 22 12:45 |
| scientes | I got a good Kiefer | Aug 22 12:45 |
| schestowitz | and you get the newspapa' free | Aug 22 12:45 |
| schestowitz | with the oil in it | Aug 22 12:45 |
| scientes | and dirt-cheap heavy bread from the chain grocer | Aug 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | > Kiefer® offers top of the line competitive swimwear, lifeguard gear and apparel, swim gear, swimming accessories, and pool equipment. | Aug 22 12:45 |
| scientes | oh yeah, the canned fish was good and well-pried | Aug 22 12:45 |
| scientes | so I did eat like a Brit | Aug 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | I hope you didn't eat the swimwear | Aug 22 12:46 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: imagine being smuggled to Germany to avoid being gassed | Aug 22 12:46 |
| scientes | canned fish and bread | Aug 22 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: How tables have turned | Aug 22 12:46 |
| schestowitz | smoked mackerel is good | Aug 22 12:46 |
| schestowitz | but now were' veg | Aug 22 12:46 |
| scientes | schestowitz, I catered for a English tea once, with all the cream cheese cucumber thingies | Aug 22 12:46 |
| schestowitz | *we're | Aug 22 12:46 |
| scientes | *played music | Aug 22 12:47 |
| scientes | its all the same | Aug 22 12:47 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the West becomes more like USSR | Aug 22 12:47 |
| schestowitz | inc. journalists arrested and killed | Aug 22 12:47 |
| scientes | schestowitz, its not Belarus | Aug 22 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Germany fared better than average | Aug 22 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | And Russia becomes more like Nazi Germany? | Aug 22 12:47 |
| schestowitz | No | Aug 22 12:47 |
| schestowitz | It's different | Aug 22 12:48 |
| schestowitz | US is more like that, Germany 1930s | Aug 22 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Russia is just Russia | Aug 22 12:48 |
| schestowitz | US oligarchs seems to fancy emulating china | Aug 22 12:48 |
| schestowitz | with people as mere workers without any rights | Aug 22 12:48 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yeah, CCP is much woorse | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | wear your mask, unlock yourself in an apartment, beg us for money | Aug 22 12:49 |
| scientes | except those fools have already gotten everthing in china taken from them | Aug 22 12:49 |
| scientes | damn fools | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | the oligarchs aren't to be challenged that way | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | social control media now bans PETA! | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Yes, PETA | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | Aug 22 12:49 | |
| scientes | time-wasting | Aug 22 12:49 |
| schestowitz | because protecting animals harms profits of food giants and people who experiment on animals, to their deaths, for 'consumers' | Aug 22 12:50 |
| scientes | but my generation was told to go to china, and I thought "what foods". Turns out I was right. | Aug 22 12:50 |
| scientes | *fools | Aug 22 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Chinese food is not good | Aug 22 12:50 |
| schestowitz | THeir Westernised version of it is | Aug 22 12:50 |
| scientes | schestowitz, I hear it is the shitty ingredients | Aug 22 12:50 |
| scientes | and in Taiwan it is very good | Aug 22 12:50 |
| schestowitz | but if you eat some of their original things, which you can still find in local stores in chinatowns, it's not that good | Aug 22 12:50 |
| scientes | it is also extremely diverse | Aug 22 12:50 |
| schestowitz | confectionery included | Aug 22 12:51 |
| scientes | you can get Uygher food in San Francisco or Istanbul still | Aug 22 12:51 |
| schestowitz | it stinks too, and it's not helping they mix livestock like fish and animal parts with other items, yards apart | Aug 22 12:51 |
| scientes | schestowitz, that is not true, I have eaten lots of food from chinatowns | Aug 22 12:51 |
| scientes | great stuff | Aug 22 12:51 |
| schestowitz | I never went into a chinese stores and though.... "hmmm... my appetite is building" | Aug 22 12:52 |
| schestowitz | *thought | Aug 22 12:52 |
| scientes | there is a cultural problem of dangerous substitutions however | Aug 22 12:52 |
| scientes | and fake food | Aug 22 12:52 |
| schestowitz | fake news | Aug 22 12:52 |
| schestowitz | fake food | Aug 22 12:52 |
| schestowitz | what's fake food? | Aug 22 12:52 |
| scientes | it doesn't help how much shitty pork they eat | Aug 22 12:52 |
| scientes | the CCP bought the best pork saughterer in the US | Aug 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | shitty pork is from pigs who eat shit? | Aug 22 12:53 |
| scientes | because they needed better technology, and more sanitization | Aug 22 12:53 |
| schestowitz | some fish are bed shit | Aug 22 12:53 |
| scientes | XRevan86, they also load it up with pork fat | Aug 22 12:53 |
| schestowitz | sometimes chicken shit | Aug 22 12:53 |
| scientes | or something fat from dubious sources | Aug 22 12:53 |
| schestowitz | which only reminds me of what I eat if I go for industrial farming | Aug 22 12:53 |
| scientes | like gutten oil | Aug 22 12:53 |
| scientes | *gutter oil | Aug 22 12:53 |
| schestowitz | gluten free | Aug 22 12:54 |
| schestowitz | but gutter-sourced | Aug 22 12:54 |
| scientes | gutter oil skimmed off the sewers | Aug 22 12:54 |
| schestowitz | gotcha? | Aug 22 12:54 |
| schestowitz | ewww.. | Aug 22 12:54 |
| schestowitz | brb, I'm hungry | Aug 22 12:54 |
| scientes | eating horse meat during WW2 in the US does not compete | Aug 22 12:55 |
| scientes | (Europe was much hungrier) | Aug 22 12:55 |
| schestowitz | ukraine ate body parts | Aug 22 12:56 |
| schestowitz | of humans | Aug 22 12:56 |
| scientes | only after Stalin fucked everything up | Aug 22 12:56 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor#Cannibalism | Aug 22 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Holodomor - Wikipedia | Aug 22 12:56 | |
| schestowitz | "The Soviet regime printed posters declaring: "To eat your own children is a barbarian act."[51]:225 More than 2,500 people were convicted of cannibalism during the Holodomor' | Aug 22 12:56 |
| scientes | schestowitz, Dmitry Orlov does a study of cultural collapse in his book *The 5 Stage of Collapse* | Aug 22 12:57 |
| scientes | but to point your finger and go "those evil people" is pretty silly | Aug 22 12:58 |
| scientes | now the Mayans and the Incans with their human sacrifices..... | Aug 22 13:13 |
| scientes | generally 12-year-old girls | Aug 22 13:13 |
| scientes | ...I don't know anything about NA stuff | Aug 22 13:15 |
| scientes | this had a whole Mayan theme, including skulls (but without any context?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BTjG-dhf5s | Aug 22 13:17 |
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| scientes | and 1B views | Aug 22 13:18 |
| schestowitz | [12:58] <scientes> but to point your finger and go "those evil people" is pretty silly | Aug 22 13:23 |
| schestowitz | not at all a point I was making | Aug 22 13:23 |
| scientes | yeah I relized that | Aug 22 13:23 |
| scientes | I forgot I brought it up | Aug 22 13:24 |
| scientes | one of these surnames is not like the others https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apellido#/media/Archivo:Spanish_surnames_by_province_of_residence.png | Aug 22 13:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-es.wikipedia.org | Apellido - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre | Aug 22 13:26 | |
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| schestowitz | https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/21/the-grayzones-anya-parampil-rips-criminal-neocons-in-biden-trump-camps/ | Aug 22 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | On Fox, The Grayzone's Anya Parampil rips 'criminal neocons' in Biden & Trump camps | The Grayzone | Aug 22 13:51 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/ChariteBerlin/status/1297092195053441026 7 hours ago | Aug 22 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin (@ChariteBerlin): "1/2 #charitéberlin bestätigt, Alexei Anatoljewitsch #Nawalny zur ärztlichen Behandlung aufgenommen zu haben. Derzeit erfolgt eine umfangreiche medizinische Diagnostik. Nach Abschluss der Untersuchungen..." | nitter | Aug 22 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I wonder why now | Aug 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | this helped shift attention away from Belarus | Aug 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | which suddenly becomes old news | Aug 22 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Did it? | Aug 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | seems so | Aug 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | hard to find belarus coverage from where I am | Aug 22 17:29 |
| schestowitz | only https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/08/21/i-hope-common-sense-will-prevail yesterday | Aug 22 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 22 17:30 | |
| XRevan86 | Fresh: Lukashenko wants to close all manufacturing where workers are on strike. | Aug 22 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | Now Khabarovsk really did go into old-news mode. | Aug 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Aug 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | never underestimate PR tactics | Aug 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | I reckon gates too uses these to distract from esptein | Aug 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | not impossible, given the timing, that was on RMS was suggested as distraction | Aug 22 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | There are still rallies there, but no progress, so reporters are kind of getting tired of it. | Aug 22 17:31 |
| schestowitz | not impossible | Aug 22 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | https://baikal24.ru/text/22-08-2020/027/ | Aug 22 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baikal24.ru | Хабаровчане пригрозили властям всеобщей забастовкой | Aug 22 17:34 | |
| XRevan86 | had to dive into more local news to even know for sure that a new Saturday rally did indeed happen today | Aug 22 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | https://newsru.com/russia/22aug2020/7saturday.html ah, there, newsru did cover it | Aug 22 17:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEWSru.com :: "Вова, выпей чаю": хабаровчане в седьмую субботу митингов за Фургала пожелали Навальному выжить (ФОТО, ВИДЕО) | Aug 22 17:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | So, what's still happening: Khabarovsk rallies against the governor's framing and replacement, Bashkir protests against destruction of Kushtau, Belarus protests against forged elections, Navalny's severe condition | Aug 22 17:37 |
| schestowitz | only the above story about belarus in my feeds | Aug 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | nothing else in rss | Aug 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | I can't make sense of Russian language coverage | Aug 22 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | Let's hope English Meduza picks up the slack | Aug 22 17:38 |
| schestowitz | and corporate media coverage is trash | Aug 22 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | they have a lot to translate there %) | Aug 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: still based in Riga, afaik | Aug 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | this story is close to the heart of meduza team | Aug 22 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | It does seem like their team is slow. | Aug 22 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, small | Aug 22 17:39 |
| schestowitz | the output is now same as before | Aug 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | but the editor, the new one, a little softer on what MinceR calls "Putler" | Aug 22 17:40 |
| schestowitz | I still don't know why the older editor is gone | Aug 22 17:41 |
| schestowitz | ENglish editor | Aug 22 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | You could tag them both directly on Twatter, maybe they'll respond. | Aug 22 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | But I don't think that's the case. | Aug 22 17:45 |
| XRevan86 | Another thing that's happening is the Yefremov's defence in court. Quite bizarre. | Aug 22 17:46 |
| XRevan86 | An actor drove drunk into another car and the driver of that car died. | Aug 22 17:47 |
| XRevan86 | Pretty much one sentence. But now the defence is trying all kinds of tricks to weasel him out of the guilty sentence. Hilarity ensues. | Aug 22 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | English Meduza reported on that 2 months ago and was done with it. Makes sense, I doubt the international audience cares about the court process here. | Aug 22 17:51 |
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| scientes | Belarus is still big news around here to Belarusians | Aug 22 18:19 |
| scientes | hehehe Twatter | Aug 22 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/nc0lExmrFVk | Aug 22 18:23 |
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| scientes | kinda annoying that RT keeps calling protests "unauthorized" | Aug 22 18:24 |
| scientes | you could call it "spontaneous", but "unauthorized" is so.....authoritarian | Aug 22 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Because it is. | Aug 22 18:24 |
| scientes | XRevan86, what did they call the color revolution protests? | Aug 22 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | There's a law that requires every protest to be registered before it happens. | Aug 22 18:25 |
| scientes | those were neither authorized nor spontaneous | Aug 22 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | A clearly anti-constitutional law, yes (even post-amendment) | Aug 22 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | or rather not protests but all kinds of public activity | Aug 22 18:26 |
| scientes | exactly | Aug 22 18:27 |
| scientes | the idea that public activity can be "unauthorized" is really anti-democratic | Aug 22 18:27 |
| scientes | I do not believe much in formal democracy, but to claim that people are not suppose to have a say is really nasty | Aug 22 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: As RT being state media will respect the law even if the law is against the law. | Aug 22 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | and won't forget to remind how unlawful those darn protesters are | Aug 22 18:33 |
| scientes | perhaps I am unusual in thinking for myself | Aug 22 18:33 |
| scientes | and perhaps Russia is unusual in that it has the rule of law | Aug 22 18:34 |
| scientes | because in most place that even have some sense of order the law is incomprehensible and contradictory | Aug 22 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You know the answer %) | Aug 22 18:35 |
| scientes | how do i prevent my clothes from molding when it rains? | Aug 22 18:51 |
| scientes | given that I don't have a drier | Aug 22 18:51 |
| scientes | I think i hang them inside and ensure plenty of air flow | Aug 22 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | This is, of course, not some kind of Judge Dredd'ian logic, it's a political law serving its political purpose. | Aug 22 18:55 |
| scientes | but because I am the unusual type of person that thinks I just think the person writing it is an idiot | Aug 22 18:56 |
| scientes | that thinks he is better than everyone else | Aug 22 18:56 |
| scientes | and can thus tell everyone else to shut up | Aug 22 18:57 |
| schestowitz | [18:24] <scientes> kinda annoying that RT keeps calling protests "unauthorized" | Aug 22 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Esp. when you need to ask permission from those whom you protest against | Aug 22 18:57 |
| scientes | the chinese are so sufficiently brainwashed that they convince people that the US is dangerous by broadcasting protests | Aug 22 18:57 |
| scientes | hell, my Russian girlfriend thought that Peru was dangerous because people were protesting the copper mine | Aug 22 18:58 |
| scientes | and Latinos are spontaneous protesters | Aug 22 18:58 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and then confess for ablution | Aug 22 18:58 |
| schestowitz | I see this in EPO also | Aug 22 19:01 |
| schestowitz | where the staff needs to ask the managers for permission... to protest against management that's roguee | Aug 22 19:01 |
| schestowitz | this overlooks how protest works | Aug 22 19:01 |
| schestowitz | and freedom of association etc. | Aug 22 19:01 |
| schestowitz | in this case an intl org | Aug 22 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: The person writing it "follows orders", serves a political function. | Aug 22 19:02 |
| scientes | yes | Aug 22 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | The only agenda RT can have towards the protests in Russia is to undermine them. | Aug 22 19:02 |
| scientes | XRevan86, is that a slip? | Aug 22 19:03 |
| scientes | Belarus is part of Russia? | Aug 22 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I was thinking Khabarovsk %) | Aug 22 19:03 |
| XRevan86 | Russia has the law that public meetings need to be "sanctioned". Makes perfect sense that Belarus' has the same, and probably had for years before United Russia pushed that in. | Aug 22 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, you meant Belarus'… well, that's trickier. But the Kremlin decided that Lukashenko, as shitty a partner as he was, still has value to them, so undermining protests in Belarus' is also on RT's agenda. | Aug 22 19:05 |
| scientes | Lushenko voted to presense the USSR | Aug 22 19:06 |
| scientes | *preserve | Aug 22 19:06 |
| scientes | he was the only vote | Aug 22 19:06 |
| scientes | XRevan86, no shit, they showed all the military trucks coming into Minsk | Aug 22 19:06 |
| scientes | just like they did regarding the Hong Kong annexation | Aug 22 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: RT showed that? o_0 | Aug 22 19:09 |
| XRevan86 | Lu-shenko, like G-d? | Aug 22 19:11 |
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| scientes | It is interesting that the US is so gone that there is no response to Hong Kong | Aug 22 19:56 |
| schestowitz | too busy with its own issues | Aug 22 19:59 |
| schestowitz | like getting the dictators re-elected | Aug 22 19:59 |
| schestowitz | bolton said with help from xi | Aug 22 19:59 |
| schestowitz | though I doubt he'd get such help now | Aug 22 19:59 |
| schestowitz | US has a history of abandoning those it claimed to protect, inc. Vietnam (South) | Aug 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | it just leaves a mess behind it | Aug 22 20:00 |
| scientes | schestowitz, aren't you forgetting the british perfected that plan? | Aug 22 20:00 |
| scientes | like splitting India on religious lines | Aug 22 20:00 |
| schestowitz | india yes | Aug 22 20:00 |
| scientes | and using Israel to do the same in Arabia | Aug 22 20:01 |
| schestowitz | but the british are also known to be living decent infrastructure behind | Aug 22 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Secretariat wars aside | Aug 22 20:01 |
| scientes | to prevent pan-Arabism | Aug 22 20:01 |
| schestowitz | US seeds destruction, then retreats | Aug 22 20:01 |
| scientes | its so bad that there is a Egyptian wikipedia | Aug 22 20:01 |
| scientes | and they just moved in and killed Gaddafi | Aug 22 20:01 |
| scientes | schestowitz, both US and British are known for infrastructue | Aug 22 20:02 |
| scientes | that is the whole point of the "Belt and Road" initiative | Aug 22 20:02 |
| scientes | to claim that China, and only China, is capable of gettig things done | Aug 22 20:02 |
| scientes | and Russia is not stupid about this, and is able to play in those politics, rather than shooting themselves in the foot | Aug 22 20:03 |
| scientes | Russia is technically part of Belt and Road, but uses their own workers | Aug 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | those are a bit unique | Aug 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | I spoke to much older people about it | Aug 22 20:03 |
| scientes | because that claim that US can't get anyhting done has alot of truth to it | Aug 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Gab, Edwin, David, others I know | Aug 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | the consensus is, | Aug 22 20:03 |
| schestowitz | US leaves a mess | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | British less often | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Singapore, HK, Israel, Kenya... | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | schestowitz, dude British did the exact same thing | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | yeah, HK was pretty cool | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | where the British were the people are usually better off than nearby places | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | Singapore too | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | China does a game with debt | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | US did pretty decent job to Taiwan | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | knowing a default would be inevitable | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and then it takes over | Aug 22 20:04 |
| schestowitz | it's not something very British afaik | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | (although Japaneese did good job in Taiwean too) | Aug 22 20:04 |
| scientes | same with Korea | Aug 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Taiwan isn't a US thing | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | South Korea is a miricle | Aug 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | japan might be | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | as they have less resources than Japan | Aug 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | South Korea and Japan were well off to begin with | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | no | Aug 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | so was japan, until the war | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | Japan was WAY ahead of Japan | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | *Japan was Way ahead of Korea | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | Korea didn't begin industrializing until 1950 | Aug 22 20:05 |
| schestowitz | Taiwan is a JP thing | Aug 22 20:05 |
| scientes | Japan started is 1850 | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | the offshore China independence push | Aug 22 20:06 |
| scientes | yeah Japan got Taiwan started | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | anyway | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | I'd hardly call that US success | Aug 22 20:06 |
| scientes | it was hardly even part of the Meiji Empire too | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | and South Koreans HATE the US | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | forget their puppet leaders | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Greece and S Korea hate the US the most | Aug 22 20:06 |
| scientes | schestowitz, Korea is very close to US | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | the people, not the puppets | Aug 22 20:06 |
| scientes | its similar to Japaneese situation | Aug 22 20:06 |
| schestowitz | they view the US as their cause of military conflicts | Aug 22 20:07 |
| scientes | they are proud people | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | Japan also | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | puppet leaders | Aug 22 20:07 |
| scientes | and they also want to unify | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | see what people of Okinawa think of the US | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | setting cars on fire | Aug 22 20:07 |
| scientes | its over, but I consider it a success | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | I was a big surprised about South Korea | Aug 22 20:07 |
| scientes | its basically peace that made it happen | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | until i listened to experts | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | same for Turks and Greek | Aug 22 20:07 |
| schestowitz | because they study history | Aug 22 20:07 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yeah but US is a hated evil empire | Aug 22 20:08 |
| schestowitz | and what the US did to them | Aug 22 20:08 |
| scientes | uggh, you are such a liberal | Aug 22 20:08 |
| scientes | compare to Africa, where the US never gave a shit | Aug 22 20:08 |
| schestowitz | liberal meaning... what? | Aug 22 20:08 |
| scientes | and its just horrible | Aug 22 20:08 |
| schestowitz | it did | Aug 22 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Africa was harmed by Europe, then US and CHina joined | Aug 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | they got "IP" | Aug 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | They got religious conflicts | Aug 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | and poachers | Aug 22 20:09 |
| scientes | Gaddafi was the strongest politician they have had for a while | Aug 22 20:09 |
| scientes | pan-Africa isntead of pan-Arab | Aug 22 20:09 |
| scientes | EFF just released a post about copyright in South Korea | Aug 22 20:10 |
| scientes | they are such fucking idiots | Aug 22 20:10 |
| scientes | who cared about fucking copyright when the country is in the midst of a civil war | Aug 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | EFF is bad | Aug 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | not bad bad | Aug 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | bad as in. | Aug 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | worsening | Aug 22 20:10 |
| schestowitz | in a number of ways | Aug 22 20:11 |
| scientes | I don't follow them | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I know someone who used to donate to them | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | and now hates what they became | Aug 22 20:11 |
| scientes | I was just looking for some info about the MExican copyright law | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | they use fucking "MACS" | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | and then lecturing us on freedom and such... | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | It's the "apple cargo cult" types | Aug 22 20:11 |
| scientes | what is MACS? | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | like the people who ruined mozilla | Aug 22 20:11 |
| schestowitz | they forgot WHY us GEEKS recommended FIREFOX to people like PARENTS and MATEs | Aug 22 20:12 |
| schestowitz | scientes: it's shouting of Apple Mac | Aug 22 20:12 |
| schestowitz | because those people are so proud of their "MAC!" | Aug 22 20:12 |
| schestowitz | it's about identity and status to them | Aug 22 20:12 |
| schestowitz | and because it's "not Microsoft" we're expected to be impressed | Aug 22 20:12 |
| schestowitz | apple used to be marketed as anti-IBM | Aug 22 20:13 |
| schestowitz | IBM was "Think" | Aug 22 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Apple did "think different" | Aug 22 20:14 |
| schestowitz | and their famous ad portrayed IBM as "1984" big bro | Aug 22 20:14 |
| schestowitz | the one where the lady throws whatever it was, hammer, anvil... | Aug 22 20:14 |
| scientes | this sounds like "I know you are but what am I?" | Aug 22 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Apple's pseudo-grassroots 'counterculture' was long ago reduced to 'opposing that other brand' (but not principles, only brands) | Aug 22 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no particular reason to use Firefox anymore. | Aug 22 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's as non-free as Vivaldi. | Aug 22 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | also challenges the monoculture of blink/chrom*/webkit | Aug 22 20:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: better use falkon than vivaldi | Aug 22 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: let me know when you are around | Aug 22 21:10 |
| schestowitz | we could really use access to court proceedings | Aug 22 21:10 |
| schestowitz | before they get expunged or something | Aug 22 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Expungement for felonies involving child porn are generally not allowed. In most states, they remain visible even if they get expunged. | Aug 22 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just becomes illegal to discriminate against someone based on it. | Aug 22 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So even if you get an expungement, it won't matter. | Aug 22 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can just say they turned you down because they didn't like your credit report or they found a more qualified applicant. | Aug 22 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | this one could be "special" | Aug 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | like people who die in prison | Aug 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | and it's ruled "suicide' with tapes and visitors' logs missing | Aug 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | so anyway, the sooner we get those papers, the better (not ideal) | Aug 22 21:15 |
| schestowitz | if only we got them half a decade ago... | Aug 22 21:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It would take a pardon from the governor as far as I know, to override the state's expungement law. | Aug 22 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The pardons themselves are public information which state what the pardon was granted for, and accepting one is an admission of guilt. | Aug 22 21:41 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/9af4d215efbb3137.jpg | Aug 22 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | half-phoenix | Aug 22 21:49 |
| XRevan86 | it burns to ashes and then. | Aug 22 21:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 22 21:49 |
| scientes | I don't get it | Aug 22 21:50 |
| MinceR | and then? | Aug 22 21:50 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqwzuiSy9y0 | Aug 22 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dude, Where's My Car? (2/5) Movie CLIP - And Theeennn... (2000) HD - YouTube | Aug 22 21:50 | |
| scientes | MinceR, that is my counsin's cult film | Aug 22 21:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 22 21:50 |
| schestowitz | I found it dull | Aug 22 21:52 |
| schestowitz | (at the time) | Aug 22 21:52 |
| MinceR | i don't remember much of it, but i probably enjoyed it | Aug 22 21:53 |
| scientes | schestowitz, being dull is kinda the point | Aug 22 21:53 |
| scientes | however | Aug 22 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It burns to ashes and then NO CARRIER | Aug 22 21:53 |
| MinceR | and then? | Aug 22 21:53 |
| XRevan86 | EOL | Aug 22 21:54 |
| MinceR | and then? | Aug 22 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | EOL | Aug 22 21:54 |
| schestowitz | wow, I just got a bombshell leak | Aug 22 21:55 |
| schestowitz | re fsfe/fsf | Aug 22 21:55 |
| *XRevan86 for a moment thought that maybe an actual bombshell leak | Aug 22 21:55 | |
| XRevan86 | who knows what kind of stuff is lying around | Aug 22 21:55 |
| schestowitz | we are going to examine these files now | Aug 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no, this is important | Aug 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | for freesw people | Aug 22 21:57 |
| schestowitz | Re: deletion from Wikipedia? | Aug 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | > tagged for deletion: | Aug 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation_Europe | Aug 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Free Software Foundation Europe - Wikipedia | Aug 22 21:58 | |
| schestowitz | > some interesting notes on the Talk page and editing history too | Aug 22 21:58 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 22 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://townhall.com/columnists/jacobsullum/2020/08/12/chicago-residents-wait-months-for-permission-to-defend-themselves-despite-an-alarming-increase-in-crime-illinois-is-illegally-delaying-gun-licenses-n2574149 | Aug 22 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-townhall.com | Chicago Residents Wait Months for Permission to Defend Themselves Despite an Alarming Increase in Crime | Aug 22 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I sent my FOID appeal forms to be printed at the FedEx. | Aug 22 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not terribly hopeful, but they won't restore my rights if I don't ask. | Aug 22 22:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: https://youtu.be/C5C9UQQDp9g | Aug 22 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Status Quo - End of the line - YouTube | Aug 22 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The law requires them to as I was not convicted of anything and the court order expired. | Aug 22 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But when is the last time the government felt obligated to obey its own laws? | Aug 22 22:04 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: ouch | Aug 22 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The law also says they have to make a FOID decision in 30 days, and it often takes 90 days or more. | Aug 22 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're finally being sued for it in federal court. | Aug 22 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because all hell is breaking loose in Chicago and the only thing the cops are protecting is high end retail and the mayor's house. | Aug 22 22:06 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: hm, i know a Status Quo fan :> | Aug 22 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All due respect to oiaohm, in Australia the police probably don't operate this way, and there probably aren't riots and looting to begin with. | Aug 22 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is that a pun? | Aug 22 22:07 |
| MinceR | no | Aug 22 22:07 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/0a1510b09a6a0004.jpg | Aug 22 22:08 |
| *XRevan86 initially wanted to go with Covenant | Aug 22 22:08 | |
| scientes | MinceR, weve got one of those in Tblisi | Aug 22 22:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 22 22:08 |
| MinceR | railway vehicles that move on legs? | Aug 22 22:09 |
| scientes | it just looks vaguely like a soviet metro | Aug 22 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/VqWVNL_oCCg?t=82 I still can though. | Aug 22 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covenant - 20 Hz - YouTube | Aug 22 22:09 | |
| scientes | rather than say, San Francisco metro, or Portland light rail, or Seattle light rail | Aug 22 22:09 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: not really | Aug 22 22:09 |
| scientes | (and San Francisco has three light rails, build literally under the old ones) | Aug 22 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | this is clearly on the ground | Aug 22 22:10 |
| scientes | really? | Aug 22 22:10 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: there's more... | Aug 22 22:10 |
| scientes | whatever | Aug 22 22:10 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Metro stations are not designed with such open spaces. | Aug 22 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | one cannot just go wander into the tunnel | Aug 22 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | through a nice big ark | Aug 22 22:11 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Pretty art, albeit completely unfunctional %) | Aug 22 22:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 22 22:13 |
| XRevan86 | who'd use many little legs on a literal railway, what a waste of resources and speed | Aug 22 22:14 |
| scientes | <XRevan86> one cannot just go wander into the tunnel | Aug 22 22:14 |
| MinceR | well, centipedes are pretty fast on them :> | Aug 22 22:14 |
| scientes | the BART's trans-bay tube is designed for that sort of thing | Aug 22 22:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not train-fast. | Aug 22 22:14 |
| scientes | in case the train breaks down | Aug 22 22:14 |
| schestowitz | [22:13] <XRevan86> MinceR: Pretty art, albeit completely unfunctional %) | Aug 22 22:15 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: maybe if you scale them up | Aug 22 22:15 |
| MinceR | or compare them to the hungarian railway | Aug 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | wait, I thought this was a real photograph :-) | Aug 22 22:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 22 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | :D | Aug 22 22:15 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transbay_Tube | Aug 22 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Transbay Tube - Wikipedia | Aug 22 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe Boston Dynamics will implement | Aug 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | with Musk and his loops and tubes | Aug 22 22:15 |
| schestowitz | and add machine guns and stuff to it.. | Aug 22 22:15 |
| XRevan86 | Slow but looks epic | Aug 22 22:16 |
| MinceR | Big Money, Big Guns! | Aug 22 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | like Apple | Aug 22 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | (not really) | Aug 22 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I don't know what that looks like… | Aug 22 22:16 |
| scientes | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Toward_the_Transbay_Tube.jpg | Aug 22 22:17 |
| MinceR | > Built using the immersed tube technique, the tube was constructed on land, transported to the site, then submerged and fastened to the bottom – primarily by packing its sides with sand and gravel. | Aug 22 22:18 |
| MinceR | that's the part that surprised me | Aug 22 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Not exactly the same proportions as the pavement on the picture | Aug 22 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And I bet the sidewalk is still not freely accessible from outside | Aug 22 22:19 |
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| XRevan86 | And regular metro has all sorts for stuff for maintenance and emergencies | Aug 22 22:20 |
| XRevan86 | still can't use it as an underground pavement | Aug 22 22:20 |
| scientes | XRevan86, considering it is 10km between ends I think that would be a reasonable assumption | Aug 22 22:21 |
| scientes | the golden gate bridge is the only one open to pedestrian traffic | Aug 22 22:21 |
| MinceR | strange | Aug 22 22:21 |
| scientes | in fact all transit in the bay area is really difficult as a pedestrian | Aug 22 22:22 |
| MinceR | most bridges in budapest are open to pedestrian traffic | Aug 22 22:22 |
| scientes | I remember to go from Napa to Marin you had to go through San Francisco | Aug 22 22:22 |
| scientes | because the swampy area between the too is too dangerous | Aug 22 22:22 |
| scientes | and you can't even take the rail-road because of turning bridges | Aug 22 22:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: India now tests almost twice as many people as the US for #covid19 because #trump regime decided that to better fake having it 'under control' is needs to test less. Like expecting births to decrease because of fewer pregnancy test kits. | Aug 22 22:22 |
| scientes | these damn things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_bridge | Aug 22 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Swing bridge - Wikipedia | Aug 22 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | *is/it | Aug 22 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, India would still be behind us on tests per capita. | Aug 22 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because they're like overflowing with people because they're another country where people would rather live packed like sardines, in slums, shitting in the open street, with smog and beaches overflowing with garbage as far as you can look than wearing a goddamned condom. | Aug 22 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US has tested 10x as many people per capita as India has. | Aug 22 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So imagine how fast that damned virus is moving in a country where most people live in squalor and packed together without basic hygiene standards. | Aug 22 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll never test enough people in India to show how out of control the virus must be there. | Aug 22 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I don't get it with the condoms. | Aug 22 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What would make people want to live like that to avoid wearing a condom? | Aug 22 22:27 |
| MinceR | religion | Aug 22 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can get like 90% of your unplanned pregnancy under control with condoms, and they're cheap. | Aug 22 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cheaper than AIDS ($1 million over a lifetime) or kids (In the US doing the bare minimum, about $400,000 over 18 years, even if some of that is welfare). | Aug 22 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They should cancel the child tax credit and use the savings on birth control. | Aug 22 22:30 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/51c84065bb663e0e.jpg | Aug 22 22:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 22 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Hi Roy, | Aug 22 22:40 |
| schestowitz | Attached are the emails about a dispute between FSF and FSFE about the name FSFE | Aug 22 22:40 |
| schestowitz | History: | Aug 22 22:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 22 22:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: wanna read the leak? | Aug 22 22:56 |
| schestowitz | it's ready | Aug 22 22:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 22 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sorry, had to make two trips to the laundry. | Aug 22 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Credit card terminals acting up again. | Aug 22 22:58 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ | Aug 22 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisation’s Name) | Techrights | Aug 22 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | here, hopefully not too may typos | Aug 22 22:58 |
| schestowitz | *many | Aug 22 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks alright. | Aug 22 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought the FSFE did the deblobbing script for the kernel. | Aug 22 23:05 |
| MinceR | "the FSF's good name"? a bit late, isn't it? :> | Aug 22 23:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 22 23:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 1998-ish I put Mandrake on the family PC. Dad asked me what I thought of it and I said, "Well, it's a little rough around the edges, but in 20 years Microsoft is going to have a big problem.". | Aug 22 23:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks for checking | Aug 22 23:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: no, fsfla | Aug 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | latin america | Aug 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | that's alex oliva | Aug 22 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | While Linux distributions improved rapidly with iterative updates, and Windows continues to rot and bloat due to politics inside Microsoft, I didn't figure that Microsoft would eventually try to capture it. | Aug 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | now in fsf's board | Aug 22 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Much less have any success. | Aug 22 23:10 |
| schestowitz | he's the rms loyalist | Aug 22 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not even everything that Oracle and Facebook have done to Linux has been a negative. | Aug 22 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | BtrFS is actually working out very well for me. | Aug 22 23:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ext2/3/4 always kind of struck me as not being designed with the future in mind. More of an attitude of if we tweak it just so we might make it another 10 years before we have to revisit the problem. | Aug 22 23:13 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/a19bd16dd91ade47.jpg | Aug 22 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought it was kind of funny that Apple had one store in the entire state of Indiana. | Aug 22 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 2006 I was like "Yeah, I could buy this Mac, but if anything happens to it I have to drive down to the Circle Center mall in Indianapolis to have it looked at.". | Aug 22 23:15 |
| MinceR | or you could follow the usual crApple "repair"/"upgrade" procedure: toss it out and buy something else | Aug 22 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They gave Mandy an award at work. | Aug 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He stopped another shoplifter and called the police over. She was trying to make off with $401.36 worth of stuff. | Aug 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they gave him a $50 gift card. | Aug 22 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's caught like 7 shoplifters since he started there. | Aug 22 23:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "or you could follow the usual cr"> Yeah, which is what's done these days with some other brands, but at least they don't cost 4 times what they do. ;) | Aug 22 23:19 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisation’s Name) http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/4aca8cb8-464e-4e62-8a9b-16d18ebfe560] | Aug 22 23:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Nobody who buys an Apple product understands that the reason a used one sells for more is because it cost more to begin with. I bought a Galaxy S8+ for $450 in 2017. | Aug 22 23:20 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I have another 'bombshell' (ish) | Aug 22 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I could get $90 for it now. | Aug 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | [23:18] <DaemonFC[m]> So they gave him a $50 gift card. | Aug 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | cool | Aug 22 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They buy an iPhone for $1,500 and have the same percentage of remaining value and go "Look, this is worth $350!". | Aug 22 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Androids aren't worth anything used!" | Aug 22 23:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/debconf-spendings/ | Aug 22 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why DebConf Spent So Much Money on Travel Expenses Last Year | Techrights | Aug 22 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | still draftish | Aug 22 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There are cars that sell for $100,000 new and aren't worth $10,000 on the used market after 6 years. | Aug 22 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What affects the resale price is....the snob appeal is gone because it's not brand new, and it's coming up on some expensive repairs. | Aug 22 23:23 |
| MinceR | there's a new hypePhone model (still not a smartphone) that is sold for over 300k HUF. there's an Android-based smartphone sold for 10k HUF | Aug 22 23:24 |
| MinceR | this means that with crApple, you can pay ~30x the money for less capability | Aug 22 23:24 |
| MinceR | (and that smartphone won't lose network connectivity if you grab it...) | Aug 22 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Many of these women hadn’t actually made any contributions as developers, it has been suggested they were brought to DebConf for political reasons." | Aug 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | that's a quote | Aug 22 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh good, so they are following the GNOME Outreach to Womyn = Bankruptcy Model of software development. | Aug 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | not sure we want to alter a quote | Aug 22 23:26 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Aug 22 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I was just commenting. | Aug 22 23:27 |
| schestowitz | I see tense issue there | Aug 22 23:27 |
| schestowitz | had, then had | Aug 22 23:27 |
| schestowitz | or has | Aug 22 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "“Not long after that, one of the women was given an Outreachy internship too." | Aug 22 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | NAILED IT! | Aug 22 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who didn't see that coming? | Aug 22 23:27 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Aug 22 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks okay. | Aug 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | cheers! | Aug 22 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One of the reasons I switched to KDE is because of all of this BULLSHIT in GNOME. | Aug 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | this ic connected t SFC | Aug 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | which ousted RMS | Aug 22 23:28 |
| schestowitz | they took Microsoft money | Aug 22 23:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They effectively bankrupted themselves and got bailed out by Red Hat with Outreachy. | Aug 22 23:28 |
| MinceR | too bad KDE capitulated to gnome | Aug 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | are also closely connected to these initatives | Aug 22 23:29 |
| schestowitz | ahrd not to draw the lines between dots there | Aug 22 23:29 |
| MinceR | then again, KDE went to shit before that, with 4.0 | Aug 22 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My ex declared "$6.27" in cash on his bankruptcy forms. | Aug 22 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him, "You should have checked the couch again. Don't want to misrepresent yourself.". | Aug 22 23:30 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 22 23:34 |
| schestowitz | Tsa never came back to me | Aug 22 23:34 |
| schestowitz | dhs | Aug 22 23:34 |
| schestowitz | useless | Aug 22 23:34 |
| schestowitz | pedo enablers | Aug 22 23:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DeanParise/status/1297248220452716547 | Aug 22 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DeanParise: @simsy1977 BBC receives funding by Bill Gates. Here is an old article but is relevant for today... https://t.co/ddcsIvM7vY | Aug 22 23:37 | |
| schestowitz | The answer, re deconf spendings: | Aug 22 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Why DebConf Spent So Much Money on Travel Expenses Last Year http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/debconf-spendings/ | Aug 22 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why DebConf Spent So Much Money on Travel Expenses Last Year | Techrights | Aug 22 23:40 | |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/8bbrX22.mp4 | Aug 22 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: the bear nearly got a good bite | Aug 22 23:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 22 23:49 |
| schestowitz | good luck next time | Aug 22 23:52 |
| schestowitz | the phone will get orphaned | Aug 22 23:52 |
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